[1. CALL TO ORDER]
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          GOOD EVENING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WELCOME TO THE NORTHERN CITY COUNCIL MEETING FOR JULY. 5TH I WOULD INVITE EVERYONE TO PLEASE STAND WITH COUNCIL RECITE OUR NATIONAL PLEDGE OF LEADS. STATES OF AMERICA. THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD. 
          WELL. QUICK MISSION. THE ROLE PLEASE COUNCIL WILL TURN ON THEIR MICROPHONES. MAYOR SPAULDING COUNCIL MEMBER BRISK HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER DEREK HERE . COUNCIL MEMBER FELLOWS COUNCIL MEMBER KISSED HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER SHOP HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER WILL TRAP HERE HAVE SEVEN PIERS SEVEN PRESENT. WHERE'S THAT ONE JULY 5TH 2022 REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING. ACTION ON THE MINUTES 
          [4. ACTION ON MINUTES]
PRIOR TO TONIGHT'S MEETING AND COPY OF THE MINUTES FROM OUR JUNE 21ST MEETING, WHICH DISTRIBUTED THE COUNCIL OF ANY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS, PROPOSED MINUTES AFTER DISTRIBUTION OF COUNSEL. I GOT ONE, UM CHANGE TO THE MINUTES UNDER RESOLUTION ARE 22, WHICH WAS THE ONE ABOUT THE CONTRACT WITH THE CITY OF COLUMBUS. BASICALLY WHAT I'VE GIVEN TO COUNCIL WAS MAYBE OVER. SUMMARIZE SO DIRECTOR CHRYSLER HAD ME BACK IT UP A LITTLE BIT CLOSER TO MATCH WHAT SHE TALKED ABOUT. SO WHEN COUNCIL MEMBER DORIS DIRK ASKED ABOUT TIME AND COOPERATION FROM THE CITY OF COLUMBUS DIRECTOR CHRYSLER RESPONDED THAT BASED ON A RECENT QUOTE FROM COLUMBUS MAYOR ANTHER GINTHER ABOUT THEIR ROLE IN ATTRACTING INTEL WITH WATER AND SEWER CONTRACTS WITH NOMINEE SHE RESPONDED. SHE WAS HOPEFUL TO HAVE THE AGREEMENT WRAPPED UP IN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS. AND THAT IS NOW HOW THAT PARAGRAPH RATES. THERE WAS A MUCH SHORTER SUMMARY IN YOUR VERSION. THAT'S IT. AS FAR AS I KNOW, AS FAR AS CHANGES MINUTES ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THE PROPOSED MINTS. RIGHT. I'LL LET. PRESIDENT BRUSQUE HAD THE HONOR OF DOING THE APPROVAL OF THE MINISTERS AND CONGRATULATIONS. I'M RUNNING A GOOD MEETING. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MOVED TO APPROVE OF THE MINUTES FROM THE JUNE 21ST 2022 MEETING BY CONSENSUS. AND CAN WE PUT ON THE RECORD AS CORRECTED? THANK YOU. PARDON? CORRECT ASKED AS CORRECTED AND READ BY CLERK COUNCIL. JENNIFER MASON APPRECIATE YOU GETTING THAT IN THE RECORD, THANK YOU. RIGHT ANY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS TO THE AGENDA FROM STAFFER COUNCIL. THAT TAKES US TO HEARING A 
          [6. HEARING OF VISITORS]
VISITORS. WE HAVE OUR FRIENDS FROM KOTA HERE THIS EVENING TO GIVE US AN UPDATE ON A VERY AMBITIOUS PLAN THAT HAS NOT ONLY GOING TO HAVE AN IMPACT, POSSIBLY IN OUR NECK OF THE WOODS, BUT OUR ENTIRE REGION, SO TAKE IT AWAY. GOOD EVENING AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALLOWING US TO BE HERE THIS EVENING. I'M AS LEONARDO GUEZ. I'M THE DIRECTOR OF GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS THIS EVENING. I'M GONNA REVIEW LINK US AN INITIATIVE IN A COLLABORATION BETWEEN THE CITY OF COLUMBUS. FRANKLIN COUNTY, ARTSY AND KODA. OH, YES, SORRY. I MENTIONED TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES. I'M GOING TO BE FOLLOWING YOU. REALLY THIS ONE. THERE WE GO. I ALSO HAVE MARIA HERE WITH ME FROM SHE'LL BE JOINING US UP HERE FOR ANY Q AND A THAT WE HAVE. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MARIA UM ONE THING I WANT TO KNOW IS THAT THERE WAS A LOT OF STUDIES THAT HAVE TRANSPIRED LEADING UP TO TODAY. SO IN 2014. WE HAD INSIGHT 2050 WITH NEXT GEN. IN 2000 AND 17. 
          AND IN 2000 AND 19. WE HAVE THE INSECT 20 CORRIDOR CONCEPT, UNDERSTANDING THAT BY 2050. WE ESTIMATE THREE MILLION PEOPLE WILL BE PART OF OUR COMMUNITY AND SO HERE AND NOW IS LINK US AND OUR INITIATIVE AND OUR OUR VISION FOR THE FUTURE. AS WE THINK ABOUT THE 21ST CENTURY AND , UM WHAT WE NEED TO PREPARE OURSELVES FOR. WE THOUGHT ABOUT THE CORRIDOR STUDY THAT DIDN'T JUST ADDRESS WHERE PEOPLE LIVED, BUT IT WAS ALSO ABOUT WHERE THEY WORK AND PLAY. IT'S ABOUT EQUITY AND WORKFORCE ADVANCEMENT. IT'S ABOUT AFFORDABILITY, SUSTAINABILITY, INNOVATION AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. THE SIMPLE EQUATION FOR US IS MOBILITY, INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENTS, PLUS WALKABLE AND CONNECTED COMMUNITIES MEANS INCREASED OPPORTUNITIES. WE KNOW THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS THE HIGHEST AMOUNT OF DOLLARS TO DATE FOR PUBLIC TRANSIT, AND IT IS OUR OPPORTUNITY AND OUR IT IS OUR, UM OUR ABILITY TO COME TOGETHER AS A COLLABORATION TO GO AFTER THOSE DOLLARS. THERE'S MONEY SITTING THERE FOR US TO PUT IN THE PROPER INFRASTRUCTURE AS WE GROW IN THE CITY TO BE PROACTIVE. INSTEAD OF REACTIVE BECAUSE WE ESTIMATE THREE MILLION PEOPLE WILL BE HERE BY 2050 AND A LITTLE ANNOUNCEMENT CALLED INTEL AND OTHER 
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DEVELOPMENT IS PUTTING US IN THAT TRAJECTORY OF $3 MILLION AND PROBABLY PACING FASTER THAN WE ANTICIPATED. SO IT LIKE OTHER PEERS. WE'VE BEEN SEEING THEM BE REACTIVE. WE DON'T WANT TO BE THE NASHVILLE'S OF THE MIDWEST, RIGHT. WE WANT TO BE, UM, THE CHARLOTTE'S. WE WANT TO BE THINKING ABOUT INDIANAPOLIS THINKING ABOUT HOW PEOPLE ARE COMING HERE AND WE'RE GOING TO MOVE THEM. AND WE WANT TO GIVE THEM THE FREEDOM TO MOVE. IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT TAKING PUBLIC TRANSIT OR CHOOSING A CAR. IT'S ALSO ABOUT HOW YOU WALK LIKE, UM, AND MOVE. BUT ONE THING I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A FULL PICTURE OF IS THIS IS WHAT WE LOOKED LIKE IN 1950. IN TERMS OF POPULATION, HALF A MILLION PEOPLE. YOU'RE TALKING 40 SQUARE MILES IN 1960. WE MOVED UP TO 682,000 IN TERMS OF POPULATION AND THEN WE'RE INCREASING OUR SQUARE MILEAGE 244. AND YOU'LL SEE THIS TREND CONTINUE OVER 1970 1980 1990. 2000 IS WHEN WE HIT THAT MILLION DOLLAR OR BILLION MILLION PERSON, MARK UM AND 215 SQUARE MILES AND THEN IN 2010. MY LAST ONE IS WHAT WE'RE WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. IN TERMS OF SQUARE MILEAGE. WE CONTINUE TO GROW OUT AND NOT THINK ABOUT WHAT WE HAVE NOW AND HOW DO WE GO UP AND SO I KNOW IN SOME COMMUNITIES, THAT'S A BIT OF A CONTROVERSY, BUT IT'S ALSO ABOUT HOW WE TALK ABOUT PEOPLE MOVING IN TO OUR COMMUNITY AND BEING READY TO WELCOME THEM TO WHAT WE HAVE TODAY VERSUS CONTINUING TO EXPAND. WE'VE CONTINUED TO SEE THIS GROWTH. YOU'LL SEE PERCENTAGES OF OUR GROWTH HERE IN FRANKLIN COUNTY AT 13.8% AND MORE RIGHT MOVING UP INTO THAT 15% OF GROWTH. EVERYONE'S GROWING. THIS ISN'T A SPECIFICALLY UNIQUE PART OF CENTRAL OHIO. YOU'LL NOTICE EVERYONE'S GROWING, INCLUDING YOU, ALBANY. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT BUS, RAPID TRANSIT, THAT'S THE TERMINOLOGY, BUS, RAPID TRANSIT AND WHAT IT MEANS. WHEN WE GET TO THE CORRIDORS THIS IS ABOUT I CALL IT A SUBWAY ABOVE GROUND RIGHT TO CONCEPTUALIZE IT. IT'S MOVING QUICKER. IT'S DEDICATED LANE SIGNAL PRIORITIZATION. IT'S REALLY TRULY THIS FREQUENCY AND SPEED AND RELIABILITY AND THAT'S WHAT WE HEAR CONSTANTLY OVER AND OVER AT KODA. I NEED YOU TO BE MORE RELIABLE. I NEED YOU TO BE MORE FREQUENT. I NEED YOU TO BE, UM YOU KNOW MORE ON TIME. AND SO THAT'S REALLY WHAT BUS RAPID TRANSIT BRINGS WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT ACCESS, IT'S ABOUT CONNECTING TO DESTINATIONS. NOT JUST ABOUT WHERE YOU LIVE, BUT IT'S ALSO CONNECTING YOU TO WORK . IT'S CONNECTING YOU TO YOUR DOCTOR'S APPOINTMENT EDUCATION. THIS IS A VISUALIZATION OF WHAT BUS RAPID TRANSIT LOOKS LIKE. SO YOU'LL NOTICE THAT, UM, ARE STOPS THERE A LEVEL THEY'RE HIGHER LEVEL, SO IT'S LEVEL BOARDING. RIGHT. SO SOMEBODY WHO'S IN UM, A WHEELCHAIR TODAY . WHEN THEY GET ON ONE OF OUR VEHICLES, THE VEHICLE HAS TO DROP PUT DOWN A RAMP. PULL BACK THE RAMP. THERE'S A HOPE PROCESS TO THIS WHERE THIS IS A SEAMLESS ROLLING ON, SO THE STATIONS ARE DEDICATED RIGHT AWAY IS HIGH QUALITY STATION EXPERIENCE LEVEL BOARDING MULTIPLE INTEGRATION. THESE ARE THE CORRIDORS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT 23 HAVE BEEN SPECIFICALLY IDENTIFIED THERE TO MORE OF THE 54 DOORS WITHIN LINKOUS, BUT THOSE HAVE NOT BEEN IDENTIFIED. YET WEST BROAD STREET IS ONE CORRIDOR. EAST. 
          MAIN STREET IS A SECOND AND THE THIRD QUARTER OR IS THAT NORTHWEST CORRIDOR? UM THE ONE THAT IS MOST ADVANCED IN THE FEDERAL PIPELINE IS THE WEST, BROAD STREET AND EAST MAIN. WE CALL IT THE EAST WEST CORRIDOR. THE NORTHWEST CORRIDOR RECOMMENDED PERFECT PREFERRED ALTERNATIVE IS THAT SPRING STREET LONG STREET ALL THE WAY UP TO DUBLIN, AND SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT HITTING ISSUE AND POLAND TNG RIVER ROAD WHERE THERE'S UM OHIO HEALTH, RIGHT? SO YOU'RE TALKING COLLEGE INSTITUTIONS, PLACES OF WORK DENSITY IN TERMS OF POPULATION OF LIVING. AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. IN TERMS OF THE POTENTIAL ROUTE FOR, UM, NORTHWEST CORRIDOR. AND ADDITION TO THAT. WE ALSO TALKING ABOUT PRIMARILY CENTER RUNNING EXCLUSIVE LANES FROM DOWNTOWN TO OHIO. HEALTH COMPLEX BUS CONTINUES SERVICE IN THAT PAINTED LINE AND THAT BETHEL ROAD SO NOT EVERYTHING IS GOING TO BE FULLY DEDICATED. BUT MOST OF THE JOURNEY WILL BE AN ANXIOUS DEPENDENT ON WHERE THEY'RE AT. AND THAT'S SPECIFICALLY THE NORTHWEST. ANOTHER SLIDE OF THE PHASE PROCESS OF IT IS THAT DOWNTOWN TO THAT CLINTON VILLE ON TANGIE FIRST PHASE SECOND PHASE BEING THAT BUFFALO ROAD AND THEN THE THIRD BEING THE REMAINDER OF THE DUBLIN THIS IS THE TIMELINE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. SO WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT NORTHWEST COMPLETION , RIGHT, IF EVERYTHING WAS TO GO RIGHT, IT WOULD BE COMPLETED IN 2028 EAST WEST CORRIDORS. DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE COMPLETED IN 2027. AND THIS IS THE EAST MAIN. THIS IS WEST BROAD STREET GOING FROM GALLOWAY ROAD ALL THE WAY UP TO WASHINGTON AVENUE. UM, 
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PRETTY STRAIGHT SHOT IN THAT WEST BROAD STREET AREA. THIS IS YOUR EAST MAIN GOING FROM TAYLOR ROAD. OVER TO SOUTH CHAMPION AVENUE THAT SOUTH 18TH SO IT'S A PRETTY STRICT CONNECTION AS WELL. THIS AS I MENTIONED WOULD BE DEVELOPED AND IN, UM, FUNCTIONING BY 2027. SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT OF LINK US LINK US GOES TO 2050 BUT BY 2030 WILL HAVE THREE CORRIDORS DEVELOPED AGAIN. IF ALL GOES WELL. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THIS BIG PICTURE, IT'S ABOUT THAT BUS, RAPID TRANSIT. IT'S ABOUT INCREASING OUR FIXED ROUTE SERVICES TO THOSE ENHANCEMENTS. BIKE WEIGHS GREENWAY SPACES, SIDEWALKS. AND THEN ALSO, YOU'RE ROADWAYS, SO I TALKED ABOUT THAT MOBILITY, FREEDOM AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, IS NOT JUST THE CHOOSING. JUST RAPID TRANSIT BUS RAPID TRANSIT FOR OUR YOUR VEHICLE. IT'S TODAY. I'M GOING TO BIKE BECAUSE IT'S A NICE DAY, AND THERE'S A CONNECTED TRAIL. UH TOMORROW I'M GOING TO USE THIS SIDEWALK TO GET TO MY BR T LINK OR TO GET TO MY FIXER OUT LANE THAT HAS MORE FREQUENCY. 
          EVERY 15 MINUTES. LINE. WHATEVER IS COMING FOR ME. BE THAT THE C MAX OR WHATEVER, SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IN THAT STATE AS WE TALK ABOUT 2030 WHAT WILL BE ACCOMPLISHED THREE HIGH CAPACITY TRANSIT CORRIDORS, $380 MILLION IN TRANSIT, SUPPORTIVE INFRASTRUCTURE, AND THIS IS WHERE I THINK IT WILL BE IMPORTANT FOR NEW ALBANY AND ALL OF THE COMMUNITIES. TRANSIT SUPPORTIVE INFRASTRUCTURE IS A PROCESS IN WHICH A COMMUNITY WOULD APPROACH MORE PEPSI TO HELP THEM COMPLETE A SIDEWALK BIKE TRAIL. WHATEVER IS YOUR WHATEVER WITHIN YOUR PRIORITY AREA. UH OR CODA. PLUS RIGHT. THOSE ARE AREAS THAT YOU WOULD LOOK AT. WE'LL HAVE A CODA. PLUS SOUNDS 15% INCREASE IN OUR FIXED ROUTE SERVICE, 150 MILLION AND TRANSITORY DEVELOPMENT AND YOU COULD SEE THE REST AS WE GO THROUGH 2030 BY 2050. IT'S A BIG COMPLETION. IT'S A HEAVY LIFT FOR OUR COMMUNITY. BUT THAT'S WHY WE'RE COMING TO EVERYONE SAYING THIS IS WHAT WE ANTICIPATE COMING. THIS IS WHERE WE SEE OURSELVES BEING IN 2050, AND IT'S GOING TO TAKE COLLABORATION IN ORDER FOR US TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH THIS BIG GOAL. WHAT DOES THIS COST? WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT $8 BILLION, SO FIVE UM, HIGH CAPACITY CORRIDORS . $101.2 BILLION FIXED ROUTE, BUT THE NUMBER I WANT TO POINT OUT IS THAT 1.6 BILLION, WHICH IS THAT TRANSIT, SUPPORTIVE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT CONNECTED TISSUE. THE SIDEWALKS, THE GREENWAY SPACES, THE BIKE TRAILS . UM ALL OF THAT IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, AND THAT GOES INTO THE COMMUNITY. SO THAT'S BASED ON A PROCESS THAT IS CURRENTLY PUTTING IN PETITION FOR COMMUNITIES. WE'VE INVITED EVERYBODY TO THE TABLE TO TALK ABOUT WHAT THEY WANT THAT PROCESS TO LOOK LIKE. UM AND AS THAT GETS DEVELOPED, WE WILL SHARE THAT WITH EACH COMMUNITY. IN TERMS OF WHERE FUNDING COMES FROM, UM, SIX OF THE $8 BILLION IS SELF TAX. SO CURRENTLY WE'RE AT 80.5% THIS MEANS WE WOULD HAVE TO GO TO THE COMMUNITY TO THE VOTERS AND ASKED FOR ANOTHER 0.5% MAKING IT 1. IN TOTAL FOR OUR COMMUNITY IN ORDER TO ACCOMPLISH THAT VISION OF LINKOUS. WHAT? I ALSO WANT TO POINT OUT WHEN I GO TO THAT TRANSIT, SUPPORTIVE INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE NEXT SLIDE IS THIS IS OUR CURRENT ZONE OF SERVICE. AND THIS THESE ARE THE FOLKS WITHIN THIS ZONE, A SERVICE THAT CAN ASK APPLY FOR TO THOSE TRANSIT SUPPORTIVE INFRASTRUCTURE. THROUGH MORE PEPSI. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT COMPARISON, COMPARING OURSELVES TO CLEVELAND OR CINCINNATI, WE DON'T STEP UP IN TERMS OF OUR IN TERMS OF WHAT OUR SALES TAXES VERSUS. THERE'S WHERE 0.5 THERE AT 1% IN CLEVELAND AND 10.8 IN CINCINNATI, AND SO DEPENDING ON WHAT COUNTY YOU'RE IN WITHIN THE CENTRAL OHIO, IT WOULD BE 7.25. OR 7.75, BECAUSE WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF DELAWARE A LITTLE BIT OF GO BACK TO THIS A LITTLE BIT OF DELAWARE, A LITTLE BIT OF UNION AND SO IT REALLY DEPENDS ON WHERE YOU'RE AT WHERE YOUR SALES TAX WOULD FALL. THIS IS WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE CONCEPT, COMPREHENSIVE DEVELOPMENT OF THE NINE NEW TRANSIT CENTERS, FIVE HIGH CAPACITY CORRIDORS AND THE 15TH INCREASED HOURS. SO WHAT DOES THAT CONNECTIVITY LOOKED LIKE FOR THE TRANSIT VISION? THIS IS YOUR VISION FOR A CODA, PLUS STONES. THERE'S A LOT OF FOLKS WHO HAVE KNOCKED ON OUR DOOR AND SO THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE IRONED OUT. BUT WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE DESIGNATED AREAS THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED THAT ARE OF INTEREST FOR KODA PLUS YOUR BIKE WEIGHS GREENWAY AND YOUR SIDEWALKS. LOT OF CONNECTIVITY THERE. I THINK YOU'LL SEE ALL THE WAY THROUGH OUR SERVICE AREA. WE'VE GOT A LOT OF CONNECTIVITY THAT GREENWAY AREA. 
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AND THEN SIDEWALK GAPS. THIS IS THE ONLY ONE THAT HAS A BIT OF A RESTRICTION IN THAT, UM WITH THE TRANSIT, SUPPORTIVE INFRASTRUCTURE GAPS NEED TO BE WITHIN HALF A MILE OF THE TRANSIT STOP IN ORDER FOR US TO FULFILL SORT OF A SIDEWALK GAP, AND THEN WE WOULD ASK WHATEVER COMMUNITY TO HELP US FILL IN THE REMAINDER OF THAT. WE LAUNCHED OUR COMMUNITY ACTION PLAN. THIS IS ONLINE. EVERYTHING THAT YOU SEE TODAY IS AVAILABLE TO YOU ONLINE PLUS ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. UM AND SO PLEASE FEEL FREE TO LOOK AT THAT. THIS IS REALLY TALKING ABOUT BUILDING A SUSTAINABLE FUNDING FOR LINK US AND WHAT WILL LOOK LIKE IN THE FUTURE. THE SIGNIFICANCE TO NEW ALBANY IS THE POTENTIAL OF A HIGH CAPACITY CORRIDOR HERE, UM , AND PREPARATION FOR THE GROWTH THAT YOU'LL SEE A CODA PLUS STONE BUS NETWORK ENHANCEMENT GREENWAY CONNECTIONS AND THEN, UM, ACCESS TO THAT TRANSIT, SUPPORTIVE INFRASTRUCTURE FUNDING. AND THAT'S MY PRESENTATION FOR THIS EVENING. I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. MARIA AND I ARE HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. AS THE AS THE $8 BILLION, ALSO INCLUDING RAPID FIVE IT DOES NOT DOES NOT. IN ADDITION TO. PACIFIC IMPROVED. BUT HE COULDN'T BE A BUILD PROJECTS THAT WOULD SUPPORT ALIBI, BUT IT DOES NOT. I JUST THOUGHT MAYBE THE GREENWAY CONNECTIONS OR THAT WERE INCLUDED INTO THE RAPID FIVE. THAT WAS ALL IN ONE, BUT IT'S NOT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. GOT IT. 
          THANK YOU. SEPARATE PROJECTS, BUT HE WAS CERTAINLY BE COORDINATE. FOR THE ADDITIONAL HALF PERCENT SALES TAX INCREASE WITH THAT ALL BE DEDICATED TO THIS. FUNDING WILL BE DEDICATED TO THIS PROJECT. THAT ADDITIONAL REVENUE ALSO ALLOWS CODE AND MORE TO APPLY TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FOR SOME GRANT FUNDS FOR THIS PURPOSE AGAIN. THESE ARE ONE TIME MONEY. WE DON'T HAVE THE MATCH. WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET THE FEDERAL SUPPORT. UM I THINK I'VE HEARD THE CODE OF COMMUNITY TALKING ABOUT THIS, YOU KNOW? RAPID BUS TRANSIT. UM IT'S SORT OF LIKE, YOU KNOW, IT'S MORE LIKE A TRAIN THAN A BUS AND YOU'RE TRYING TO HAVE THAT TOUCH AND FEEL OF, YOU KNOW, LIGHT RAIL WITHOUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE COSTS. AND WE HAVE A LOT OF PAVEMENT IN COLUMBUS AND TRYING TO PUT IN LIGHT RAIL WOULD BE EXPENSIVE. THIS SORT OF, YOU KNOW, SORT OF BRIDGES. THOSE TWO CONCEPTS TOGETHER, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALWAYS TOLD WERE THE LARGEST CITY IN NORTH AMERICA WITHOUT RAPID TRANSIT. THIS PROVIDES THE SAME OPPORTUNITY FOR TRANSIT AT A LOWER COST AND TAKES ADVANTAGE OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE. WE ALREADY HAVE SIGNIFICANTLY. LESS EXPENSIVE. THINKING HIGH LIKE REVELERS. THREE TIMES, THIS WOULD BE THE SINGLE PRIORITIZATION. SO WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT VEHICLE ON ONE OF THOSE BUSSES WOULD BE COMING THROUGH. THE ONE STATEMENT FOR LONGER TO GET IT RIGHT. DEDICATED LENGTH TODAY YOU WATCH KODA. THE PEOPLE THAT RIGHT. THIS IS DEDICATED LEE. SO THERE IS MORE RELIABILITY AND KNOWING MY HERE MY TRADED VEHICLES AT 7 15 PEOPLE 15, RIGHT, BARRING ANY PERHAPS WITHIN THE INTERSECTION OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. THIS IS A DEDICATED, PRIMARILY DEDICATED LINE THAT ALLOWS YOU TO HAVE THAT SUBWAY REVEAL RIGHT BACK TRAINED FEEL OF GETTING THERE FASTER AND APPLES, APPLES. 
          YOU'RE WORTH SEEING SOME OF THOSE. THE RESEARCH, SAYING THAT BUS RAPID TRANSIT STACKS UP. 
          IT'S NOT. IT'S NOT LIKE, BUT IT STACKS UP IN TERMS OF SPEED. EFFICIENCY RELIABILITY. LET'S THE SAME TYPE OF PROJECT THAT YOU'VE SEEN CLEVELAND FROM DOWNTOWN OUT TO THE CLEVELAND FUNDING. AS INDIANAPOLIS AND THERE. IT'S ALSO BETTER FOR BIKE TRAFFIC. SO IN FOLKS BRING THEIR BIKES, AND THEY DON'T HAVE TO TRY TO THROW IT ON THE FRONT OF THE BUS AND HOPE THAT IT STAYS. 
          UM YOU KNOW, IT IS MORE LIKE A TRAIN IN THAT IN THAT WAY SERVICE ANIMALS AND, UH, FOLKS WITH DISABILITIES THAT, YOU KNOW, HAVE MOBILITY ISSUES GETTING ON THE PLATFORM TODAY, THIS WILL BE ELEVATED AND MAKE THAT TRANSIT EASIER AND FASTER. CORRECT OFF BOARD FARE COLLECTION DO SO YOU'VE EVER. UM IF YOU'VE EVER GOTTEN ON OUR VEHICLES, IT TAKES TIME IF SOMEBODY'S SPEAKING AT A DOLLAR BILL THEY'RE PUTTING IN THEIR RIGHT. WE CAN COLLECT THAT FAIR OFF BOARD. WE ARE MOVING TO AN ELECTRONIC CASE SYSTEM SO THAT WILL BE ELIMINATED EVENTUALLY AWAY, BUT THIS IS OFF BOARD. CAN YOU GET ON AS IMMEDIATELY WHEN THE DOORS OPEN AND WE'RE NOT? BLACK BEAR IN THAT WAY. NO I DID KNOW THAT THE END OF THE BROAD STREET UM CONNECTION WAS, I THINK, JUST AT THE EDGE OF REYNOLDSBURG MAYBE ENDED REYNOLDSBURG SO CERTAINLY ANOTHER PARTNER COMMUNITY OF OURS ON THE SIDE OF TOWN AT THEY'RE GOING TO PLAY HOST TO 
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THAT TO THAT CENTER. I KNOW THAT THE MAYOR THERE IS VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY. BUT IT ALSO BROADENS THE CONVERSATION FOR US ABOUT TRANSIT FROM THAT CENTER UP TO THEIR WORKFORCE CENTERS HERE IN ALBANY. AND SO I KNOW THAT YOU KNOW, A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS ARE GOING ON AROUND. THAT WON'T BE EXACTLY THE SAME TYPE OF TRANSIT LIKELY, BUT YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WE WILL HAVE OPPORTUNITIES. AND THE OTHER THING I JUST WANTED TO MENTION I KNOW CODE HAS BEEN WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH LICKING COUNTY AND LICKING COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. I THINK YOU'VE EVEN BEEN KIND ENOUGH TO LOAN AN EXECUTIVE TO ASSIST WITH THEIR TRANSIT NEEDS. BUT THERE'S FINALLY SOME, YOU KNOW, REALLY BUDDING CONVERSATIONS AND COLLABORATION BETWEEN CODA AND LICKING COUNTY SOMETHING THAT WE HAVEN'T SEEN BEFORE, SO I JUST REALLY APPRECIATE THE EFFORT AND BRINGING EVERYONE TO THE TABLE TO TRY TO SOLVE. YOU KNOW THIS TRANSPORTATION ISSUE CORRECT. 
          OUR CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER, BEN ALLISON IS CURRENTLY AN EXECUTIVE ALONE. SO HE'S FOOLING RUNNING THAT AGENCY AND SO THERE WILL BE A SEAMLESS EXACTLY PERFECT RIGHT NOW. GREAT WORK THINGS OUT, BUT THE BALL IS THAT THERE WILL BE A CONNECTION FROM LICKING COUNTY TO OUR SYSTEM, KNOWING THAT RIGHT NOW IT'S NOT WITHIN OUR SALES TAX AND ALL THAT OUR GOAL IS TO EVENTUALLY MAKE SURE THAT OUR SYSTEMS TALK TO EACH OTHER, SO THERE'S A SEAMLESS CONNECT. UM. ACCESS TO PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION IS HUGE, COMPETITIVE ADVANTAGE TO HIRING FOLKS DOWN. IN THE ONE SLIDE TOUCHED ON IT, BUT GETTING BACK TO THE PRE COVID NUMBERS LIKE THAT. EVEN 15% MORE IS THAT ONCE THIS IS COMPLETED, OR ARE THERE OTHER IS THERE A PLAN TO GET BACK TO THOSE NUMBERS CONCURRENTLY AND SOONER THAN 2027. REMEMBER WE TOOK THAT 15% IS IN ADDITION TO WHAT OUR 2019 NUMBERS WORK, SO WE ARE DOWN FROM THAT TO GET THERE AND THEN EXCLUDE THAT WITH THAT 15. THAT ONE OF THE ISSUES WE'RE CURRENTLY FACING OTHER TRANSIT AGENCIES ACROSS THE UNITED STATES SHORT ON OPERATORS WERE 100 OPERATORS SHORT WE DID JUST ANNOUNCED THAT WE ARE DOING IN $2000 FOR FOLKS. $500 REFERRAL BONUS TO RETALIATE. YOU'RE WATCHING THE WRONG KEYS OF THE WORLD MATCH. UM OUR TRANSIT AGENCY AND SO SOME ARE CHOOSING THAT THEY WOULD PREFER NOT TO BE IN PUBLIC SCHOOL DISTRICT IS FACING THE EXACT SAME RIGHT ACROSS THE REGION. YEAH. AND ACTUALLY, I THINK THE SYSTEM IS PROBABLY A BENEFIT TO HAVING A LIGHT RAIL IN MINNEAPOLIS FROM THE LIGHT RAIL SYSTEM WAS CREATED. SO I SAW HOW LONG IT TAKES AND ALSO THE BUMPS THAT ALONG THE WAY, UM, WHERE YOU NEED DEDICATED ENGINEERS TRAINED IN THOSE TYPE OF THINGS. I THINK THAT HAVING THIS TYPE OF SYSTEM WOULD PROBABLY ALLOW FOR A LOT MORE, UM, FLEXIBILITY AND BRINGING A STAFF ON I REALLY LIKE THAT ABOUT THAT. AND THIS IS A CONSERVATIVE CAPITAL MEMBER. THIS IS A CONSERVATIVE ESTIMATE OF WHERE WE WANT TO BE, SO WE WANT TO BE EIGHT MORE ZONES BEYOND OUR PAPER. MORE HIGH CAPACITY CORRIDORS, RIGHT? YEAH, FIVE IS WHAT WE COULD CONSERVATIVELY SAY WITH THE DOLLARS THAT WOULD BE COMING IN. THAT COULD ALLOW US TO GET FIVE. 
          DONE AND DONE WELL VERSUS STRETCHING OURSELVES TO SAY THAT WE WOULD DO MORE SO THAT WITHIN PLAYING WITHIN THE NUMBERS WE HAVE AND THAT WE KNOW THAT FIVE IS THE NUMBER THAT WE COULD DO IT DO WELL. THANK YOU. DO YOU ENVISION THESE BEING LIKE, UH, PLACE WHERE YOU'LL HAVE A GREAT BIG PARKING LOTS FOR PEOPLE TO PARK AND THEN RIDE AND PROBABLY MAYBE SOME RETAIL WILL COME UP ALONG TO BE A PART OF THAT AS WELL. IS THAT SOMETHING YOU SEE HAPPENING IN THESE LOCATIONS, COFFEE SHOPS OR THAT SORT OF THING? SOME OF THEM WILL HAVE PARKING RIDES, BUT A LOT OF THEM WHAT WE SEE. THE RESEARCH SAYS THAT ONCE YOU PUT IN SOMETHING LIKE HIGH CAPACITY REAL WEATHER IS LIGHT RAIL OR BUS. RAPID TRANSIT. UM, YOU'LL SEE BUSINESSES POP UP MORE BECAUSE THERE'S MORE VISUAL TO THAT RATE. WHEN YOU'RE IN A CAR, YOU'RE GOING TO A DESTINATION. 
          VERSUS BEING ON PUBLIC TRANSIT. YOU I'M GOING TO GET OUT ON THIS START AND I'M GONNA GO FREQUENT THAT I'M GONNA I'M GONNA SUPPORT THAT SMALL BUSINESS WILL ALSO SEE HOUSING POP UP ONE OF THE THINGS THAT ACTUALLY IS. A CONCERN FOR US IS THAT BECAUSE THIS WILL CREATE A CORRIDOR. WE DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO BE PUSHED OUT WHO ARE CURRENTLY LIVING THERE, SO WE'RE TRYING TO BE CONSERVATIVE AND HOW WE KEEP FOLKS ARE CURRENTLY THERE BECAUSE THAT BECOMES DESIRABLE LAND. BUSINESSES POP UP. WE'LL SEE WHAT THE APARTMENT COMPLEXES AND HOUSING THERE. PROBABLY SOLVED THE. TRAINING CENTERS. SO I THINK WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ARE MAYBE MORE IN LIFE. 
          TRAINING CENTER. WHERE PARKING RIGHT IN YOUR MIND YOU RIGHT, RIGHT TRANSIT LIFE, SO CERTAIN LOCATIONS WOULD HAVE THAT INTENDS MORE PIRATES ACTIVITIES. AND I THINK SOME OF THE FEDERAL 
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DOLLARS ARE AVAILABLE FOR LIKE GRANT MATCH PROGRAMS. SO IF YOU'RE GONNA DO MIXED USE DENSITY AROUND TRANSIT CENTER. THIS WILL HELP SPUR ON SOME OF THAT SOME OF THE ACTIVITY, OKAY? THE EMINENT KIND OF MAKE THESE DESTINATIONS OR, YOU KNOW, MAYBE STARTING PLACES, RIGHT? THESE ARE THESE ARE PEOPLE'S HOMES, AND THEN THEY'RE GOING TO THE WORKPLACE AND, UH, YOU KNOW, LIVING AROUND WALKABLE AREA TO THE TRANSIT CENTER. I MEAN, TODAY YOU SEE SOME CODE OF STOPS. YOU KNOW THERE WAS IN THE FIELD, RIGHT? THAT'S THAT'S WHERE THE YOU KNOW THAT'S WHERE THE BUS STOPS AND THERE'S NOWHERE TO GO FROM THERE. WE HAVE SOME OF THEM AROUND HERE STILL, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, NO SIDEWALKS OR A PROBLEM WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO WRITE A BUS. 
          MHM. IN ADDITION TO THIS LARGER PLANNING YOU HAD MENTIONED IN THE BEGINNING. UNDER YOUR PRESENTATION THAT YOU'RE AWARE OF FACT THAT INTEL IS COMING OUT, SO THERE'S GOING TO BE A HIGHER DEMAND. FOR TRANSPORTATION OUT TO THIS AREA, BOTH FROM LINCOLN COUNTY AND FROM COLUMBUS. ARE YOU MAKING, ASSUMING YOU'RE MAKING PLANS NOW TO INCREASE IN AND STUDY WHAT THE NEEDS OF THIS AREA ARE GOING TO BE REGARDS TO PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION. OUTSIDE OF THIS YES, ABSOLUTELY. SO YOU KNOW MORE AND WE ARE FORECASTING GROWING, YOU KNOW, 2030 YEARS IF WE DO THAT, ON A REGULAR BASIS ON A FOUR YEAR BASIS, AND SO WE'VE BEEN FORECASTING, LOOKING EXPECTING THAT POPULATION OF 23 MILLION UP TO 2050. FOR THE LAST FEW YEARS, AND WHAT WE'RE I THINK WHAT WE'RE SEEING. WE ARE RE EVALUATING. YOU KNOW HOW WHERE THAT GROWTH IS ACTUALLY GOING TO OCCUR UNTIL IT'S OBVIOUSLY GOING TO IMPACT. POPULATION GROWTH, BUT AT THIS POINT, I THINK WE'RE AS A REGION WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE LARGER PICTURE. WE WE REALLY EXPECT THAT, ALTHOUGH THE TOTAL NUMBER IS PROBABLY GONNA REMAIN NOW KIND OF ON FRIENDS, BUT JUST STILL LOCATION WITHIN THE REGION MIGHT CHANGE AND MAYBE, YOU KNOW THE WE ARE ON THAT'S THE TRACK THREE MILLION SO BUT YES, WE ARE CURRENTLY LOOKING AT YES, AND THIS IS A PART OF OUR PLANNING PROCESS. WE'RE LOOKING SPECIFICALLY AT THE PARK HOW IT'S GOING TO IMPACT THE POPULATION AND THEN THE BRANDS THAT SHE MENTIONED. WE ARE LOOKING AT SPECIFICALLY LICKING CALIBER. WHAT THE IMPACT IS LOOKING KIND SPECIFICALLY. BUT AS A REGION YOU'RE STILL THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE AN OBVIOUS SPIKE IN THE IN THE TRANSPORTATION OUT HERE AND THE DEMAND FOR WORKERS SO MAYBE WE CAN GET OUR OWN HUB. OH YEAH ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I WANT TO CUT THE CONVERSATION SHORT. I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR DOING ALL THIS AND THANK YOU. ALWAYS A PLEASURE. THANK YOU AGAIN FOR COMING OUT TONIGHT. I'M SURE WE'LL HAVE QUESTIONS AS THIS PLAN DEVELOPS, AND ARE WE LOOKING TO GO ON THE BALLOT THIS NOVEMBER? IS THAT THE PLAN? SO WE HAVE AN IDENTIFIED WHAT WE'RE GOING TO EDUCATE ALL THE COMMUNITIES PLAN, RIGHT? WHAT'S THE BIG PICTURE? WHERE DO WE SEE OUR VISION AND, UM AND WE'RE LOOKING AT BASED ON ENVIRONMENT, FRANKLY. ONE IS THE RIGHT TIME TO GO TO THE VERY INTENTIONAL. WE DON'T WANT TO TAKE SOMETHING THAT YOU KNOW THE COMMUNITY, TOO, BECAUSE OF INFLATION, OR WHATEVER ELSE IS GOING ON THE COMMUNITY, SO WE'RE NOT THERE YET. BUT ARE BOTH INFORMED ALL OF OUR FOCUS WITHIN OUR SERVICE AREA. OKAY WELL, I APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH. YOU'RE WELCOME TO STAY FOR THE REST OF THE MEETING, OR DO SOMETHING ELSE YOU CAN EXIT STAGE LEFT. GET OUT AS FAST AS YOU CAN. THERE HAVE DUAL PLATFORM WE'LL UPDATE THE SLIDES. OKAY, THANK YOU. THANK YOU, LADIES. YEAH. IT'S. THAT'S A BAD BREAK. AWESOME. OKAY? 
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UM I MEAN, KIND OF TAKE A POINT OF PERSONAL PRIVILEGE, AND WE USUALLY HAVE COUNSEL COMMENT. 
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THE VERY END OF THE MEETING, BUT WE HAVE A GOOD CROWD HERE, AND I THINK THIS WARRANTS COMMENT NOW, IF THAT'S OKAY. MM I THINK THE NUMBER OF US HAVE LEARNED OVER THIS WEEKEND OF THE PASSING OF BILL RUSH. IT WAS COMMUNITY ICON. YOU KNOW, I ALWAYS VIEWED BILL AS BEING ONE OF THE FOUNDING FATHERS OF NEW ALBANY AS WE KNOW IT TODAY. FORMER VILLAGE COUNCIL MEMBER, LONG TIME TEACHER INSTRUCTOR AND WESTERVILLE CITY SCHOOLS. YOU KNOW, PARTNER WITH NOBODY PLAYING LOCALS. SUPERINTENDENT JOHNSON, WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WE KNOW TODAY. A FOUNDING MEMBER OF THE CHURCH OF THE RESURRECTION AND ANYONE WHO KNEW BILL JUST A, YOU KNOW, TIMELESS BALL OF ENERGY. YOU KNOW, THE GUY WAS I DON'T KNOW IF HE SLEPT. I DON'T KNOW HE DIDN'T DRINK COFFEE, SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE HE GOT ALL THE ENERGY. BUT MOST OF THE FOLKS IN OUR COMMUNITY ALWAYS REMEMBER BILL FOR HIS LOVE OF THE ENVIRONMENT AND COMMITMENT TO SUSTAINABILITY. AND HIS INCREDIBLE COMMITMENT TO TEACHING YOUNG AND OLD MYSELF INCLUDED IN THAT. YOU KNOW IF YOU EVER WANTED TO HAVE A COUPLE OF HOURS TO SPEND AN AFTERNOON YOU'LL JUST GO TALK TO BILL RUSH, YOU KNOW, MAKE IT MIGHT TAKE. FIVE MINUTES MIGHT TAKE FIVE HOURS, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO LEARN A LOT. AND NO ONE IS MORE PASSIONATE ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT THAN BILL RUSH. YOU KNOW, MY CHILDREN HAD A CHANCE TO ENTER GAUGE ENGAGE WITH HIM THROUGHOUT THEIR SCHOOL SCHOOLING HERE IN NEW ALBANY. AND IT WAS ALWAYS KNOWN AS THE NATURE GUY. UM YOU THINK ABOUT OUR COMMUNITY PILLARS AND ONE OF THEM BEING IN ENVIRONMENT AND SUSTAINABILITY, AND I CAN'T THINK OF ANYONE ELSE IN OUR COMMUNITY WHO REPRESENTED THAT MORE CLEARLY THAN BILL RUSH. HIS FINGERPRINTS ARE ALL OVER NEW ALBANY. I MEAN, SOME OF THE WHAT LAND AREAS THAT WE HAVE OUR BECAUSE OF BILL RUSH RECORD WOODS BECAUSE OF BILL RUSH RUSH PARK. DON'T RUSH HE BUILT THE FIRST, YOU KNOW, LEAD HOME IN NEW ALBANY. WE KNOW IT'S A PASSION OF HIS THAT WENT BACK A NUMBER OF YEARS. SO JUST JUST A FANTASTIC HUMAN BEING. AND I JUST, YOU KNOW IF ANYONE WANTS TO YOU KNOW, HAVE A ROLE MODEL WHEN THEY YOU KNOW THEIR KIDS GROW UP TO BE LIKE, YOU KNOW, LIKE BILL RUSH SHOULD BE GREAT. HIS FAMILY ALSO OWNS AGREEABLE BAKERY. SO YOU KNOW THERE'S ANOTHER THING TO LOVE ABOUT THE GUY. BUT YOU KNOW IF YOU GET A CHANCE TO GO VISIT RUSSIA PARK JUST DOWN THE STREET FROM THE EARLY HOUSE, UM IT IS A BEFITTING PARK FOR BILL. VERY, VERY NATURE ORIENTED. YOU CAN KIND OF GO BACK THERE AND, YOU KNOW REALLY GET YOUR ZEN ON ON A GOOD AFTERNOON AND SIT ON HIS ROCKS BACK THERE AND REALLY, YOU KNOW, COMMUNE WITH NATURE LITERALLY. SO I'M JUST STILL THANKFUL OF THE TIME THAT I GOT TO SPEND SPEND WITH MR RUSH AND ARE SO THANKFUL THE IMPACT THAT HE'S HAD IN OUR COMMUNITY. SO WITH THAT, I THINK ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS WANT TO COMMENT IT JUST AN AWKWARD KIND OF TAKING ABOUT AN ORDER, BUT I JUST THOUGHT THE TIME WAS RIGHT. I JUST ECHO EVERYTHING. IT'S BEEN A ROLE MODEL AND AN UNBELIEVABLE AND SO POSITIVE AND JUST TRULY LOVE NEW ALBANY AND AFTER I FOUND OUT ABOUT HIS PASSING, WENT ON A WALK AND FELT LIKE I HAD TO GO TO ROSE. RON AND I'VE SEEN THE PICTURES POSTED. SO IT'S LIKE I WANT TO GO ON THE TRAILS DOWN BY REST, PARK AND JUST SEEING THE KIDS PLAYING IN ROWS RUN WITH THE BOOTS AND PLAYING WITH THE NETS THAT HE HAD DROPPED OFF DOWN THERE FOR KIDS TO INTERACT WITH NATURE. UM EVERY TIME I GO DOWN THERE, I THINK OF BILL AND EVERYTHING. HE CONTRIBUTED TO THE CITY. SO COOL. YOU KNOW HE'LL STILL BE HERE. HE WAS AHEAD OF HIS TIME. REALLY YEAH. HE WAS TALKING SUSTAINABILITY AND ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AND ALL OF THAT WELL BEFORE MOST PEOPLE EVER WERE ANY. I THINK HE SET THE TONE FOR NEW ALBANY THAT WE'RE VERY LUCKY. WE HAVE WE WERE AHEAD OF IT BECAUSE OF HIM. HE HAD THE FRIENDLIEST SMILE AND JUST EVERY TIME I SAW BILL AND A ROOM I WAS LIKE, OKAY, IF I DON'T KNOW ANYBODY ELSE HERE I CAN GO TALK TO BELLE. UM AND I REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU SERVE THE COMMUNITY AND HE'LL BE MISSED. ENJOYED HIS STORIES THAT HE HAD ABOUT NEW ALBANY ALWAYS FROM HISTORICAL POINT OF VIEW, AND I AM SURE HIM AND GLIDE WILL BE WATCHING. OH, MAN FOR QUITE SOME TIME, THEIR PRESENCE WILL STILL BE FELT. I'M SURE ABOUT EVERY DECISION THAT WE MAKE UP HERE. I THINK THEY WILL STILL HAVE IMPACT. FOR SURE. ABSOLUTELY AGREE. I TOLD BILL ONCE THAT MIGHT OLDEST DAUGHTER HAD A SCIENCE PROJECT WHERE SHE HAD IDENTIFIED FIVE DIFFERENT TYPES OF SOIL. AND IN OHIO. AND HE SAID, WELL, WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO, CHIP, LET'S BRING YOUR DAUGHTER OVER HERE. ON SATURDAY AFTERNOON MOBILE OUT AND WE'LL FIND THOSE SOIL SUPPORTER. HE TOOK MANNY MYSELF OUT IN THE WOODS PERSONALLY SHOW WALK THROUGH US WORKERS WOODS, FIVE DIFFERENT SOILS CHART THEM HELP MADDIE LABEL THEM MY OLDEST DAUGHTER. ASSETS SHE COULD TAKE THOSE BACK TO A SCIENCE PROJECT. 
          IN ABOUT THREE WEEKS LATER. DURING THAT TIME, WE WERE TALKING TO BILL ABOUT LIVING ON SUGAR RUN. IN THE BACKYARD. KNOCKED ON OUR DOOR ONE DAY HAD VIDEOS AND COASTERS, AQUATIC CREATURES OHIO WOW. MY DAUGHTER'S HUNG ON THEIR WALLS AND HAD THE VIDEOS TOOK THEM 
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BACK TO THE CREEK. AND SHOWED THEM ALL THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF PRODUCT LIKE THAT. WE'RE BACK THERE HE WAS. AMAZING GUY AND COMPLETELY DEDICATED TO THE CITY AND THE ENVIRONMENT. HONESTLY, FOR SURE. YEAH I YOU KNOW, I THINK ABOUT HIM AND HOW OFTEN HE HAS COME INTO COUNCIL TALK TO US AND HOW OFTEN WE TALK ABOUT? WELL, WHAT WILL BILL THINK? WHAT WILL BILL WANT TO DO? STAND HE'S HE REALLY HAS BEEN A FOUNDING FATHER TO WHAT NEW NEW ALBANY HAS BECOME WITH SUSTAINABILITY AND THE THINGS THAT THINGS THAT HE'S PUT IN PLACE AND HELD OUR FEET TO THE FIRE. TO KEEP GOING , AND I THINK THAT'S WHEN YOU MENTIONED GLIDE, REALLY FOREFATHERS COMMUNITY. QUICKLY. 
          AND STORIES LIKE MADDIE. I MEAN , SOMEBODY STUDENTS OR THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS THAT HAVE A BILL RESTAURANT AND JUST THE IMPACT THAT HE HAS AS A MENTOR TO SO MANY KIDS THAT HAD A PROJECT OR BOY SCOUT, THE HEAD OF PROJECT AND THE LIST IS VERY LONG, SO I'M JUST IT'S SUCH A LASTING IMPACT. AND UH I JUST WANTED TO TAKE A MOMENT TO SAY THANK YOU. TO BILL FOR EVERYTHING IS DONE FOR US. AND, UH, HE WILL ALWAYS LIVE IN OUR MEMORY. HE DOESN'T FORGET ALL THOSE STUDENTS. EVEN THE LAST TIME I SAW HIM, WHICH WAS OUR LAST PARTNER WITH MEETING WE'RE BUILDING ATTENDED, ASKED ME HOW MAD HE WAS. THIS. ALL RIGHT. WELL, THANK YOU FOR THAT POINT OF PERSONAL PRIVILEGE KIND OF MOVING THE AGENDA AROUND A LITTLE BIT THERE. I APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH. THAT TAKES US TO HEARING A VISITOR. IS THERE ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS COUNCIL ON A MATTER NOT ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA? I KNOW WE HAVE A COUPLE OF SPEAKER CARDS FOR ISSUES THAT ARE ON THE AGENDA, SO WE'LL HOLD OFF ON THOSE FOR NOW. UH, NO HEARING OF VISITORS. RIGHT. THAT 
          [7. BOARD/COMMISSION REPORTS]
TAKES US TO BOARDING COMMISSION REPORTS. MR SHAW ON THE UPDATE FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION. NO REPORT. PARK CENTRAL ADVISORY BOARD. NO MEETING. ARCHITECTURE REVIEW BOARD MEETING ZONING APPEALS, NO MEETING. SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD MEETING IDEA IMPLEMENTATION PANEL SLOW IT DOWN A LITTLE, NO MEETING, BUT WE HAVE NOW IMPANELED OUR PANELS, SO WE'RE GOING TO START SCHEDULING OUR REGULAR MEETINGS. BEGINNING IN AUGUST. ALRIGHT WE'RE GONNA HAVE AN ANNOUNCEMENT ON THE PANEL MEMBERS AT SOME POINT ONCE IT ALL SETTLES. SURE. OKAY. GOOD. 
          THANK YOU. ANY UPDATE FROM THE CEMETERY RESTORATION BATTERY BOARD MEETING. AND THERE WAS NO PUBLIC RECORDS COMMISSIONED SINCE OUR LAST MEETING, SO NO UPDATE CORRESPONDENT FOR COMMUNICATION. IS THERE ANY CORRESPONDENCE RECEIVED FROM COUNCIL SINCE OUR LAST MEETING 
          [9. SECOND READING OF ORDINANCES AND PUBLIC HEARING]
THEY LIKE TO PROVIDING UP, YOU KNOW. SECOND READING OF ORDINANCE AND PUBLIC HEARING. 
          BORN IN SLOW 1920 22 AN ORDINANCE TO DECLARE THE IMPROVEMENT OF CERTAIN PARCELS OF REAL PROPERTY TO BE A PUBLIC PURPOSE. EXEMPT 100% OF THAT IMPROVEMENT FROM REAL PROPERTY TAXATION REQUIRED THE OWNERS OF THOSE PARCELS TO MAKE SERVICE PAYMENTS IN LIEU OF TAXES PROVIDED FOR THE DISTRIBUTION OF THE APPLICABLE PORTION OF THOSE SERVICE PAYMENTS TO THE JOHNSTOWN MONROE LOCAL SCHOOL DISTRICT. AND THE CURRENT TECHNICAL EDUCATION CENTERS OF LICKING COUNTY TECH. PROVIDE FOR THE DEPOSIT AND THE REMAINDER OF THOSE SERVICE PAYMENTS INTO A MUNICIPAL PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT TAX INCREMENT EQUIVALENT FUNDS. SPECIFY THE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS THAT DIRECTLY BENEFIT THOSE PARCELS AND APPROVING AUTHORIZED THE EXECUTION OF ONE OR MORE TAX INCREMENT FINANCING AGREEMENTS. THANK YOU, MR MAYOR. MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. THIS ORDINANCE AMENDS OAK GROVE TO TAX EQUIPMENT FINANCING DISTRICT. TO INCLUDE APPROXIMATELY 1689 ACRES RECENTLY, ANNEX AND ZONE INTO THE CITY. CONSOLIDATED ACREAGE ASSOCIATED WITH THIS EXPANSION IS GENERALLY LOCATED SOUTH OF GREEN CHAPEL ROAD WEST OF MINK STREET. AND NORTH OF JUG STREET. THIS INCLUDES 94 DISTINCT PARCELS SHOWN HERE. THE PURPOSE OF THE STIFF IS TO CAPTURE THE INCREMENTAL INCREASE IN THE VALUE OF THE LAND AND THE IMPROVEMENT AFTER ASSOCIATED REAL PROPERTY TAX ABATEMENTS EXPIRE TO CONTRIBUTE TOWARDS QUALIFIED PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE AND PUBLIC PROJECTS. THE CITY HAS ENTERED INTO SUPPLEMENTAL AGREEMENTS WITH JERSEY TOWNSHIP REGARDING THE FUNDING OF FIRE AND EMS SERVICES OR REMIND COUNSEL THAT THIS TAX GOVERNMENT FINANCING DISTRICT IS CLASSIFIED AS NON SCHOOL. WHICH MEANS IT DOES NOT NEGATIVELY IMPACT EITHER. THE JOHN SALMON ROE LOCAL SCHOOL DISTRICT OR THE CAREER AND TECHNICAL EDUCATION CENTERS OF WOODEN COUNTY HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL. MR LODGE'S. I KNOW THERE'S IN CENTRAL OHIO. THIS IS NOT AN UNCOMMON OCCURRENCE WHERE THERE'S A TIFF ON A CERTAIN PIECE OF DEVELOPMENT PROPERTY. UM CAN YOU JUST EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT SO THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A NON SCHOOL TIFF AND REGULAR TIP? AND IS THERE A LEGAL REQUIREMENT THAT WE MAKE THIS PATCH OF OCEAN IN THE SCHOOLS OR NOT? NO THERE IS NOT A LEGAL REQUIREMENT THAT WE MAKE THE CONTRIBUTION TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. THE DIFFERENCE 
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BETWEEN THE TAX INCREMENT FINANCING DISTRICT THAT IS NON SCHOOL VERSUS THOSE THAT INCLUDE THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. IS IT ESSENTIALLY THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS HELD HARMLESS WITH THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A TIFF. MEANING THAT THEY STILL RECEIVED THE INCREMENTAL VALUE OF THE PARCEL BASED ON THE MILLAGE THAT THEY CHARGE, SO THEY ARE STILL MADE WHOLE BY NOT HAVING THEIR ABATE THEIR THEIR MILLAGE, YOU KNOW, DIVERTED INTO THIS TAX RECRUITMENT FINANCING FUND. AND THEN JUST AS A REMINDER OF THIS PARCEL SETS OF PARCELS EXCUSE ME HAVE BEEN ARE GOING TO OR HAVE BEEN REZONED. ALL COMMERCIAL CORRECT? YES SIR. THEY'VE BEEN ANNEXED INTO THE CITY AND ALL REZONED TO THE NEW TECHNOLOGY MANUFACTURING DISTRICT, SO NO STUDENTS ARE GOING TO COME OUT OF THIS REZONED AREA. CORRECT. THIS WILL BE ALL ENTIRELY COMMERCIAL GROUND. OKAY? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL AND THE ORGANS. ALRIGHT, THEN OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING WITH ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC LIKES TO SPEAK REGARDING ORDINANCE 1920 22. THERE IS NO PUBLIC COMMENT WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE A MOTION ON THE ORDINANCE? ADOPTION OF ORDNANCE ON 1920 22 2ND. COUNCIL MEMBER FELLOWS. YES REMEMBER DEREK? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER TEST? YES, YES. YES MAYOR SPAULDING COUNCIL UNDER BREAST. YES I HAVE SEVEN. YES POSTER GROUP ORDINANCE. 1920 22 ORDINANCE 2020 22 ORDNANCE TO ADOPT A TAX BUDGET FOR THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY, OHIO FOR FISCAL YEAR ENDING DECEMBER 31 2023 THANK YOU, MAYOR. THIS TAX BUDGET IS REQUIREMENT. FRANKLIN COUNTY BUDGET COMMISSION, FRANKLIN COUNTY CHOOSES TO USE IT AS A TOLL TO ESTABLISH THE LOCAL NEED FOR PROPERTY TAX REVENUE, WHICH IS DERIVED FROM THE INSIDE MILLAGE. OTHER COUNTIES, SUCH AS LOOKING AT DELAWARE HAVE ELIMINATED THIS REQUIREMENT. FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, THE TAX BUDGET IS HOUSEKEEPING IN NATURE AND ENABLES THE CITY TO REMAIN COMPLIANT WITH THE R C. THE TAX BUDGET INCLUDED IN THE ORDINANCE AS AN ATTACHMENT. THERE HAVE BEEN NO FURTHER REVISIONS SINCE THE FIRST READING. THIS DOCUMENT IS USED TO SHOW THE NEED FOR THE ADDITIONAL INSIDE MILLAGE THAT WAS APPROVED WITH THE RESOLUTION THAT WE PASSED LAST MEETING THAT AH INCREASED OR INCREASED ADDITIONAL INSIDE. MILLAGE WILL AH GIVE THE GENERAL FUND $530,000 EXTRA ABOVE THEIR NORMAL STATUTORY MILLAGE THAT IS RECEIVED. AS DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY, THE REVENUE AND EXPENSE ESTIMATES ARE HIGHLY CONSERVATIVE FOR PURPOSES OF TAX BUDGET AS EXERCISE THESE ESTIMATES WILL BE REFINED DURING THE PREPARATION 2023 ANNUAL BUDGET IN THE FALL. AS MORE INFORMATION WILL BE AVAILABLE. THIS TAX BUDGET IS REQUIRED TO BE APPROVED BY JULY 15TH AND SUBMITTED TO FRANKLIN COUNTY BY JULY 20TH ONCE THEY ADOPTED BUDGET IS SUBMITTED AND RECEIVED . THE FRANKLIN COUNTY BUDGET COMMISSION WILL SET THAT MILLAGE WITH THE APPROVAL. AN OFFICIAL CERTIFICATE WILL BE CREATED AT A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING AMOUNTS OF RACE WILL NEED TO BE APPROVED IN THE FALL. I WILL BE COMING BACK IN SEPTEMBER FOR THAT, USUALLY AND IF THERE IS A DESIRE TO WALK THROUGH THE ATTACHMENT AGAIN FOR THIS READING, I CAN DO THAT. 
          OTHERWISE I DIDN'T TAKE ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE REGARDING THE LEGISLATION. ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THE ORDINANCE? JUST. CLARIFYING KNOW THAT. WHEN I SCAN THROUGH THIS LEGISLATIVE REPORTS THAT 2023 GENERAL FUND. REVENUE IS 27.9 MILLION. GENERAL FUND EXPENSES ARE PROJECTED AT 29.6. SO CAN YOU JUST EXPLAIN THE DELTA THERE? YES. SO. GENERALLY IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT ANY REVENUE VERSUS EXPENSE IN THE GENERAL FUND, UM WE. WELL USUALLY BUDGET FOR AND SUPPORT A NET OPERATING EITHER EQUAL OR. I INCREASE AND SO THAT ADDITIONAL EXPENSE ABOVE WHAT THE REVENUES COMING IN WOULD GENERALLY BE ANY TRANSFER THAT WE DECIDE TO PUT ANY ADDITIONAL, UM, ACCESS BALANCE ABOVE ANY RESERVES THAT WE WANT TO KEEP IN THE GENERAL FUND, TOO. OTHER FUNDS FOR CAPITAL OR ANY OTHER TYPE OF EXPENDITURES THAT ARE ONE TIME THERE ARE ADDITIONAL TRANSFERS THAT WE MAKE EACH YEAR THAT GO TOWARDS, UM, RESERVING MONEY FOR. 
          SEVERANCE PAYOUTS AND FOR INFRASTRUCTURE REPLACEMENT CAPITAL EQUIPMENT TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE THAT FUND IN ORDER TO NOT PUT ANY PRESSURE ON THE GENERAL FUND WITH THAT EXPENSIVE RISES, AND SO, UH, SOMETIMES OUR EXPENSES TO EXCEED THE REVENUES THAT WE RECEIVE IN THE GENERAL FUND. I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT WE ARE NOT PASSING A BUDGET DEFICIT. WE ARE NOT. WHY DO I 
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THINK A GLIDE MARTIAN TIME WE LOOK AT A BUDGET SET A YEAR IN ADVANCE. HE ALWAYS WOULD SAY, WHY ARE WE DOING THIS? BUT WE KNOW WHAT YEAH, BUT I MEAN, STILL AFFECTING CANADA REQUIREMENTS SO, YES, AND THAT'S THE WHY. AND HE WOULD ALWAYS MAKE SURE THAT ONE OF US GOES DOWN TO ACTUALLY SIT AT THE MEETING TO MAKE SURE THEY PASS IT. YEAH I MEAN, YEAH, THREATEN HIMSELF, RIGHT? YEAH I APPRECIATE THE CORRECTIVE APPROACH AND THE CONSERVATIVE FIGURES OUTLINED IN THIS BUDGET HERE. AND JUST FOR COUNCILS EDIFICATION IF WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS NOW THERE HAS BEEN ONE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT INSIDE MILLAGE AND THE LEGAL REQUIREMENTS AND WHO CAN DRAW DOWN AND WHY AND WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU DON'T AND IT'S JUST A COMPLICATED MESS, AND WE ESSENTIALLY HAVE TO TAKE THIS MONEY. WE CAN'T JUST RETURN OF THE TAXPAYERS. IF WE DON'T THEN OTHER ENTITIES THAT HAVE THE SORT OF STEP IN OUR SHOES AND CAN DRIVE DOWN THOSE FUNDS UNLESS WE HAVE A LEGAL AGREEMENT WITH EACH ONE OF THEM. WHICH MAY NOT EVEN BE ENFORCEABLE, BUT THEY DON'T TAKE DOWN THE TAX DOLLARS. THEN THEY'RE JUST GONE SO WE'VE WE'VE LOOKED AT IT. WE TRIED. BUT HERE WE ARE. ALRIGHT ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC ELECTED SPEAK REGARDING ORDINANCE 2020 22. ALL RIGHT NOW CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I WOULD MOVE FOR THE ADOPTION OF ORGANS 2020 22 2ND. MAYOR SPAULDING COUNCIL MEMBER WELL, TROUT YES COUNCIL MEMBER SHOP. YES I KISSED. YES FELLOWS. COUNCIL MEMBER DEREK? YES COUNCIL MEMBER. BRISK YES. SEVEN YES. 1ST 2020 22. ORDINANCE 21 2022 AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND APPROPRIATIONS FOR CURRENT EXPENSES AND OTHER EXPENDITURES DURING THE FISCAL YEAR ENDING DECEMBER 31 2020 TO START THANK YOU, MAYOR. AS CITY STAFF HAVE PERFORMED A MIDYEAR REVIEW THE CITY'S ACTUAL AND PROJECTED EXPENDITURES COMPARED TO THE 2022 ANNUAL BUDGET PROGRAM AND PREVIOUSLY APPROVED AMENDMENTS AND DETERMINED AMENDMENTS OF PREPARATIONS ARE NECESSARY. THERE HAVE BEEN NO ADJUSTMENTS TO THIS LEGISLATION SINCE THE FIRST READING. AS THE ALL THE AMOUNTS ARE CORRECT. DETAILS OF THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS WERE INCLUDED IN THE ATTACHMENT TO THE LEGISLATIVE REPORT FOR THE JUNE 21ST MEETING , AND I PROVIDED IT TONIGHT AS WELL WITH AN UPDATE THAT DETAILS WHETHER THE ADJUSTMENTS ARE FOR ONE TIME, EXPENSES VERSUS REVENUE DRIVEN ARE PASSED THROUGH COSTS. THESE DETAILS ARE ON THE FIRST TWO PAGES OF THE ATTACHMENT, ACTUALLY, THE FIRST THE FIRST PAGE OF THE ATTACHMENT , AND THIS HELPS TO PROVIDE THAT. THE LARGE PORTION OF THE COSTS ARE FOR ONE TIME, ANY INCREASED OPERATIONS WOULD BE COVERED BY ANY INCREASE IN REVENUE THAT WE HAVE PROJECTED. THE. A SUMMARY OF THE 2022 SUMMARY OF APPROPRIATION AMENDMENTS IS INCLUDED, AND THEN ALSO SUMMARY OF AVAILABLE RESOURCES INCLUDED AND THE ATTACHMENT TO THE LEGISLATIVE REPORT. UM THAT I HANDED OUT WHICH SUMMARIZES ANY AMENDMENTS MADE TO THE CITY'S OVERALL FUNDS SINCE THE ADOPTION OF THE 2022 ANNUAL BUDGET. I CAN GO OVER THE DETAIL OF THE AMENDMENTS. OR IF YOU HAVE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS, I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AS IT RELATES TO THE LEGISLATION. GENERAL QUESTION. PROBABLY MAYBE FOR JOE ON THIS, UM BY THE WAY, THANK YOU FOR DOING THE INCREASED OPERATIONS AT ONE TIME. THAT WAS VERY HELPFUL. I NOTICED ON ONE OF THE INCREASED OPERATIONS WE HAVE ACCIDENTS, LIGHT POLES AND GUARDRAIL, MAINTENANCE AND REPLACEMENT. DO WE TYPICALLY PAY FOR THOSE? OR WOULD IT BE THE INSURANCE COMPANIES OF THE FOLKS THAT ACTUALLY CAUSED THE DAMAGE OR ISSUES TYPICALLY, IF WE CAN AS LONG AS WE CAN IDENTIFY AND ENSURE THEN WE'LL WE'LL GO AFTER THAT. IN CASES WHERE WE HAVE NO HIT AND RUN SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WHERE SOMEBODY HITS A GUARDRAIL AND TAKES OFF. WE END UP HAVING TO EAT THAT, BUT TYPICALLY WHEREVER WE CAN WE IDENTIFY THAT AND THEN WE TRY TO ADDRESS THE MAYOR'S COURT. GET FOR YOUR MERCY. OKAY FOR FROM A BUDGET PERSPECTIVE, WE HAVE TO INCLUDE THE COST FIRST, AND THEN GENERALLY WILL GO AFTER THE INSURANCE COMPANY. TO GET THE REVENUE BACK. SO IT DOESN'T UM, DECREASE THE EXPENSE WHEN WE RECEIVE THAT REVENUE, AND SO WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT IN THERE. IT APPEARS THAT THE INFLATIONARY COSTS UP THAT WE'RE TAKING IS FOR FUEL COSTS WILL BE SEEN ANY OTHER HITS ON THE FLIP ON INFLATION. SINCE OUR BUDGET WAS PUT IN PLACE A YEAR AGO, PRIMARILY CONSTRUCTION ANYTHING THAT'S RELATED TO CONSTRUCTION. WE'RE SEEING INCREASES FROM MATERIALS. LABOR A LITTLE BIT. 
          MIKE I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. IN TERMS OF YOUR IF YOU'RE WRONG MATERIALS, BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT EVERYTHING IS GOING UP. IN THAT, YOU KNOW 5 TO 10% RANGE. YEAH, I THINK THAT 
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THAT'S FAIR. A LOT OF THINGS ARE CHANGING TIME FRAMES ARE CHANGING. THERE ARE SOME INDIVIDUALS MATERIAL PROCUREMENT ISSUES. CEMENT IS A BIG BIG PROBLEM RIGHT NOW. SO I THINK I THINK THERE'S SOME AREAS THAT ARE GETTING SOME HYPERINFLATION. BUT I THINK OVERALL, I THINK WE'LL PROBABLY IN THE ABOUT THAT 10 10% RANGE. I THINK SCHEDULES ARE JUST KIND OF GETTING EXTENDABLE BITTEN. THE POINT IS FAR AS THIS IS CONCERNED THAT WE'RE ABLE TO STAY WITHIN THE BUDGET, SO WE PUT IN PLACE. IF SOMETHING WOULD COME UP, WE WOULD PROBABLY MAKE A AN END OF YEAR ADJUSTMENT. BRING YOU BUT SO FAR WE LOOK LIKE WE'RE PULLING OUR OWN. AND AGAIN I COMPLIMENT THE FINANCE STAFF FOR ONLY DOING THIS ONCE OR TWICE A YEAR INSTEAD OF EVERY THIRD MEETING WITH THE THEN ANNOUNCED STATEMENT, SO APPRECIATE YOU KEEPING HAVING GOOD BUDGET PROJECTIONS OF THE BEGINNING, STICKING WITH THEM AND MAKING CHANGES ONLY WHEN NEEDED, SO REALLY APPRECIATE THE EFFORT. IT MAKES IT EASIER ON US AS WELL. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE ORDINANCE. OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING WHERE ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC LIKE TO SPEAK REGARDING ORDINANCE, 21 2022. HEARING NO PUBLIC COMMENT WILL CLOSE. THE PUBLIC HEARING IS VERY EMOTIONAL. THE ORDER MOVE IT OPTION MORNING 21 2022 2ND. COUNCIL MEMBER SHELL YES. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER BREAST? YES COUNCIL MEMBER WILL CHAT. YES MAYOR SPAULDING. YES? YES FELLAS . YES COUNCIL MEMBER? YES YES. SEVEN YES, FOLKS, SO 21 2022. INTRODUCTION AND FIRST READING 
          [10. INTRODUCTION AND FIRST READING OF ORDINANCES]
OF ORDINANCES ORDINANCE 20. 20 TO 2022 IN ORDER TO AMEND THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY BY MANY DESIGNING MAP TO REZONE 25. 0.12 PLUS OR MINUS ACRES OF LAND. GENERALLY LOOK AT ITSELF OF SMITH'S MILL ROAD WEST OF BEACH ROAD IN NORTH OF STATE ROUTE 1 61 FROM INFILL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT YOU D INFILL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT PEUT FOR AN ERROR TO BE KNOWN AS THE BEACH CROSSING WEST ZONING DISTRICT, AS REQUESTED BY M. B. J HOLDINGS LLC. CARE OF AARON UNDERHILL. SAMARIA. THANK YOU. SO THE LOCATION AS YOU MENTIONED IS NORTH OF 1 61. IT'S EAST OF THE LOWER .COM SITES AND SOUTH OF SMITH'S MILL ROAD AND THE AP OFFICE PARK, SO IT IS CURRENTLY ZONED COMMERCIAL, AND THERE ARE NO NEIGHBORING RESIDENTIAL USES. THE PROPERTY IS ZONED I P U D C P. U. D S ALLOWED FOR FLEXIBILITY AND DESIGN AND USE STANDARDS AND CURRENTLY IT'S DON'T I P D TO ALLOW FOR FLEXIBILITY IN BY ALLOWING A MIXTURE OF USES, AND THOSE USES CURRENTLY INCLUDE COMMUNITY FACILITIES. RETAIL AND RESTAURANT USES, IN ADDITION TO SELECT GENERAL EMPLOYMENT USES, SO THIS REZONING WILL REMOVE THOSE COMMUNITY FACILITIES AND RETAIL AND RESTAURANT USES, AND IT WILL ADD SOME GENERAL EMPLOYMENT DISTRICT USES. BUT WHAT THE OVERALL OUTCOME IS, IS THAT IT WILL HAVE THE EXACT SAME PERMITTED USES AS THE SURROUNDING G USES THAT YOU SEE AND HEAR ABOUT AND ALL THE OTHER REZONING ZINDER LOOKING COUNTY BUSINESS PART TODAY. SO IT IS REMAINING IN PD, THOUGH, TILL ALFRED FLEXIBILITY AND A LOT DESIGNED FOR THINGS LIKE LOT COVERAGE AND SETBACKS. THE ONLY OTHER CHANGES THAT THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED A SLIGHT DECREASE IN THE EASTERN SETBACK. FROM 25 FT TO 15 FT TO ALLOW FOR FLEXIBILITY OF DESIGN AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED A CONDITION OF APPROVAL THAT STAFF HAS THE DISCRETION TO ADD ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING TO BUFFER THAT, UM, IF NEEDED AT THE TIME OF DEVELOPMENTS, OTHERWISE THERE'S NO OTHER CHANGES TO THE EXISTING ZONING. IT'S THE SAME DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AS THE EXISTING ZONING TEXT. WHICH ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE NEIGHBORING , UH, COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICTS TO THE NORTH, SOUTH, EAST AND WEST. SO THE PROPOSED REZONING MATCHES UH, THE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR USE AND DESIGN STANDARDS FOUND IN THE STRATEGIC PLAN, AND IT'S ALSO CONSISTENT WITH THE SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENTS. LASTLY THE PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEWED AND RECOMMENDED APPROVAL AT THEIR MEETING LAST MONTH. ANY QUESTIONS ON THE ORDINANCE. I KNOW THAT SETBACK CHANGE GARNERED SOME CONVERSATION AND QUESTIONS FROM PLANNING COMMISSION THAT SOUNDS LIKE IN PART THAT PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL FLEXIBILITY FOR STORMWATER MANAGEMENT. BETWEEN THESE TWO PARCELS IF THEY'RE NOT COMBINED AT SOME POINT ANY IDEA ON END USER WE JUST STILL SPECULATIVE AT THIS POINT. 
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SORRY. SORRY, ERIN. ERIN UNDERHILL. RIGHT HERE IN THE WATER. NO USERS TO IDENTIFY YET I STAND UP HERE ALL THE TIME WITH THEM A COUPLE OF MONTHS WE'VE GOT SOMETHING. WOULDN'T SURPRISE. WE'RE FINDING ONE OF THE USES OF WRITINGS WHERE HAVE DISTRIBUTION WASN'T PERMITTED. 
          THAT'S USUALLY PERMITTED EVERYWHERE, AND I THINK THAT'S BECAUSE WE KEPT CARRYING OVER A ZONE TAX FROM MAYBE THE WAY TO THOUSANDS, AND I WAS KIND OF OVERSIGHT ON AIRPORT IS THE AFRICAN SO PICTURE THAT WAS PART OF THE EXCUSES. IS THAT A LOT WITH THE SILO ON IT THAT QUARTERS, THE HIGHWAY. JUST A SIDE NOTE. I THINK THAT SILENT WOULD BE PERFECT FOR NEW ALBANY LOGO FOR OUR BRAND NEW RIGHT THERE ON THE HIGH IT'S GREAT TO HAVE THAT REPAINTED WITH OUR NEW LEVEL BUSINESS PARK AND WHATNOT. BUT, YEAH, I THINK IT WAS OVER. YEAH, THANKS. LITTLE PAPER THAT THERE IS NO BETTER PLACE FOR OUR NEW LOGO THAN ON THAT SILO RIGHT ALONG OUR BUSINESS PARTY. THANK YOU, ERIN. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE ORDINANCE. GO AHEAD AND SET THAT FOR SECOND READING OR PUBLIC AND PUBLIC HEARING AT OUR MEETING ON JULY 19TH. COORDINATES 23 2022 ORDINANCE TO AMEND CHAPTERS 115711651187. IN THE OPEN DESIGN GUIDELINES REQUIREMENTS SESSIONS FIVE RESIDENTIAL OUTSIDE OF VILLAGE CENTER OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING CODE CITY OF NEW ORLEANS. 
          I WAS CODIFIED ORDINANCES AS REQUESTED BY THE CITY OF THE WORLD. AND I BELIEVE WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO HEAR THIS ORDINANCE AND RESOLUTION 25, AT LEAST FROM THE STAFF PRESENTATION STANDPOINT, AND MAYBE PUBLIC COMMENT. YES, THAT'S RIGHT. GIVE US JUST ONE MOMENT TO GET THIS SLIDE SALESMANSHIP FOR JUST A SECOND. SOUNDS. PDF. SO WHEN STAFF IS GETTING THE SLIDE SHOW TOGETHER, THIS IS I WON'T SAY UNUSUAL, BUT JUST SO FOLKS UNDERSTAND SORT OF THE LOGISTICS OF TONIGHT'S MEETING. THE ORDINANCE ORDINANCE 23 REGARDING THE CHANGES TO SOME OF OUR CODE SECTIONS IS AT FIRST READING, WHICH MEANS IT HAS TO GO TO A SECOND READING ON JULY 19TH. THE RESOLUTIONS CAN PASS TONIGHT. THAT WORD HAVE OTHER EFFECTS THAT THE COUNCIL DESIRES AND THAT SO YOU HAVE TWO DIFFERENT TWO DIFFERENT REQUIREMENTS. THE ORGANS HAS TO BE SET FOR SECOND HEARING RESOLUTION CAN BE ADDRESSED BY COUNSEL. JUST A POINT OF CLARIFICATION. THEY'RE GOING TO PRESENT BOTH NOW WE'RE GOING TO COMMENT ON BOTH NOW. FOLLOWING THAT, JUST UNDERSTAND KIND OF JOY AND I WERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW THIS YOU KNOW HOW WE'RE GONNA JUGGLE. I FEEL LIKE I'M NOT A VERY GOOD JUGGLER SO BECAUSE THERE'S DIFFERENT ASPECTS. SOME SOME OVERLAP. I THINK THE PUBLIC COMMENTS GONNA PRETTY SIMILAR. YEAH, I THINK THAT I THINK AGAIN WE CAN WE CAN DO WE DON'T WE DON'T GENERALLY HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT AT FIRST READING ON AN ORDINANCE, BUT IT MAKES SENSE TONIGHT RESOLUTION RESOLUTION, SO LET'S HAVE THE PUBLIC COMMENT TONIGHT. WE'RE NOT GOING TO VOTE ON THE ORDINANCE TONIGHT. WE'LL HAVE TO SORT OF TABLE. WHAT WE DO GO THROUGH THE NEXT ORDINANCE AND THEN GET TO THE RESOLUTION. OKAY SORRY FOR IT'S A LITTLE JUST I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT. PROCESS. BECAUSE IT IS OKAY? ALRIGHT, STEP READY. I'M SORRY. 
          YES, THANK YOU, MR CHRISTIAN. SO AS YOU NOTED ALREADY, WE'RE HERE TO PRESENT GIVE A PRESENTATION ON TWO PIECES OF LEGISLATION, BOTH OF WHICH ARE RELATED TO HAMLET DEVELOPMENTS HERE IN NEW ALBANY. THESE TWO PIECES OF LEGISLATION, INCLUDING HAMLET FOCUS AREA ADDITION TO THE ENGAGED NOMINEE STRATEGIC PLAN, AS WELL AS THE ASSOCIATED CODE UPDATES. AND AS YOU'VE ALREADY NOTED, THIS PRESENTATION WILL COVER BOTH OF THOSE PIECES OF LEGISLATION. SO TO KIND OF JUST START US OFF AND ZOOM OUT A LITTLE BIT. HAMLET CONCEPT WAS RE INDUCED, REINTRODUCED TO THE ENGAGED NOMINEE STRATEGIC PLAN, WHICH WAS ADOPTED IN MARCH OF 2021. VERY VERY SHORTLY AFTER ITS ADOPTION AND APPLICANT BROUGHT FORTH THE REZONING APPLICATION FOR A HAMLET DEVELOPMENT PLAN, WHICH WAS APPROVED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION HOW IT WAS DENIED BY CITY COUNCIL. IN LATE 2021 SHORTLY AFTER AFTER THE DENIAL THIS PROPOSAL, CITY COUNCIL DIRECTED CITY STAFF TO FURTHER STUDY THE HAMLET DEVELOPMENT CONCEPT. IT'S BEST APPLICATION IN NEW ALBANY AND CREATE SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS FOR PAINTING. PERTAINING TO DENSITY , PARKING IT OPEN SPACE AS WELL AS BLOODY EGGS. BEGINNING IN JANUARY. 2021 2022 SORRY CITY STAFF ALONG WITH OUR LONGTIME PLANNING, URBAN DESIGN AND LANDSCAPE, ARCHITECTURE CONSULTANTS, CSK HAVE BEEN WORKING VERY, VERY DILIGENTLY ON THIS PROJECT. SO BEFORE WE MOVE 
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ON, I'M GONNA SLOW DOWN A LITTLE BIT AND KIND OF DESCRIBED WHERE WE'RE AT IN THIS PROCESS. WHAT WE'RE REVIEWING TONIGHT. WHAT WE'RE NOT REVIEWING TONIGHT AND WHAT WE WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW IF THESE STANDARDS ARE ADOPTED IN A HAMLET DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL IS BROUGHT FORTH BY AN APPLICANT. SO AS I HEAR US REITERATE THIS A FEW TIMES TONIGHT, BUT WE'RE HERE TONIGHT TO REALLY REVIEW OR TALK ABOUT THREE DIFFERENT THINGS. THE FIRST ONE IS A HAMLET FOCUS AREA. AND THE ASSOCIATED HAMLET DEVELOPMENT CENTERS WITHIN THIS FOCUS AREA. AS WELL AS ASSOCIATED CODE UPDATES THOSE THINGS WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT SPAIN BUT WE'RE NOT HERE TO TALK ABOUT TONIGHT IS GOING FOR IT. SORRY. THIS IS NOT A DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL. THIS IS A FRAMEWORK FOR DEVELOPMENT. THESE ARE DEVELOPMENTS STANDARDS THAT ARE OFTEN INCLUDED IN OUR STRATEGIC PLANS TO PROVIDE GUIDANCE FOR CERTAIN LANDINGS DISTRICTS AGAIN. YOU'RE HERE TO SAY THIS MANY, MANY TIMES TONIGHT, BUT THIS IS NOT A DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL. NEXT SLIDE, JING. 
          THERE WE GO. GOT IT. SO I'M GONNA JUST KIND OF GIVE EVERYONE A SNEAKY PETE OF PEEK INTO IF WE DO GET A DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL, WHAT THAT PROCESS LOOKS LIKE THE THINGS WE THINGS WE TYPICALLY REVIEW AND WHERE THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC HAVE. AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME SPEAK, UM DURING EACH PROCESS FOR SO FOR A HAMLET DEVELOPED PROPOSALS SPECIFICALLY TYPICALLY REVIEW UM. WITH ANY RESIGNING, BUT SPECIFICALLY FOR A HAMLET. WE WOULD REVIEW PROPOSED RESIGNING AND COMPLIANCE WITH THE HAMLET, FOCUS AREA AND DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS IF THOSE ARE ADOPTED BY CITY COUNCIL. WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT TRAFFIC USUALLY PRETTY INTENSIVELY DID USUALLY TYPICALLY A TRAFFIC STUDY OR SOME SORT OF TRAFFIC ANALYSIS INCLUDED WITH THE REZONING SUBMITTAL. OUR CITY CODE REQUIRES A STUDENT IMPACT STATEMENT TO BE PROVIDED WITH EVERY REZONING WHETHER IT'S HAS RESIDENTIAL COMPONENTS THROUGH IT, OR NOT. EVEN COMMERCIAL REASONING. APPLICATIONS ARE REQUIRED TO SUBMIT THIS TYPICALLY AT THIS POINT IN THE GAME, WE USUALLY HAVE A PRETTY GOOD IDEA OF HOW BIG BUILDINGS WILL BE GENERALLY KIND OF THE ADVOCATE, USUALLY FOR A REZONING . THEY USUALLY PLACE KIND OF RESTRICTIONS ON THEMSELVES IN THE FORM OF A ZONING TAXED AT THIS POINT IN THE GAME, AND WE USUALLY KNOW HOW BIG BUILDINGS ARE GOING TO BE. WHAT RETAIL SPACES COULD COULD LOOK LIKE. ANOTHER THING THAT WE TYPICALLY KIND OF GET A GLIMPSE AT, UM IN THIS PROCESS IS ANY PROPOSED PROGRAMMING, WHETHER IT BE, YOU KNOW, COMMUNITY EVENTS OR TYPICALLY, WHAT WE SEE A LOT HERE IN NEW ALBANY HAS PROPOSED PROGRAMMING FOR PARKS AND OPEN SPACE. WHETHER IT BE PLAYGROUND OR MORE PASSIVE RECREATIONAL AMENITIES PROVIDED AN OPEN SPACE . WE USUALLY GET KIND OF A SNEAK PEEK OR GLIMPSE AT THAT HERE AT THIS STAGE IN THE PROCESS OF THE DEVELOPMENT. SO AS PART OF THE REASONING PROCESS. THERE ARE THREE DIFFERENT SPOTS OR THREE DIFFERENT MEETINGS WHERE THE PUBLIC REALLY FOR MEETINGS, ACTUALLY APOLOGIES WHERE THE PUBLIC GETS THE OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE IN FEEDBACK. I'M JUST LIKE YOU ARE HERE TONIGHT. UM WE DO THIS ALL THE TIME. WITH ALL THE REASONING APPLICATIONS WE GET. SO THE FIRST STEP IN THE PROCESS IS YOU WOULD GO TO YOU CAN ACTUALLY MAKE HOLES IN HERE, BUT MAYBE JOHN MASON CAN HELP ME . UM, SO WE WOULD TYPICALLY IF A SITE IS LOCATED, REALLY IN FRANKLIN COUNTY, NORTH OF STATE ROUTE 1 61. GENERALLY YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE A STOP AT THE ROCKY FOR BLACK SUPPORT, WHICH IS AN ADVISORY PANEL, MADE UP OF IS A JOINT ADVISORY PANEL. MADE UP OF MEMBERS OF THE CITY OF COLUMBUS. UH, THE PLAIN TOWNSHIP AND THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY. THEY REVIEW THE APPLICATION AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION. SO THE PLANNING CONVENTION WHEN IT GETS TO THEM, THEY TAKE A REALLY CLOSE. VERY, VERY CLOSE. TECHNICAL LOOK AT THE MERITS OF A REZONING APPLICATION. IF YOU'VE EVER SEEN THE REZONING STAFF REPORT THESE THINGS TYPICALLY 11 PAGES LONG, SO THEY TAKE A PRETTY PRETTY CLOSE. LOOK AT IT. THEY REVIEW THE INFORMATION AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO ALBANY CITY COUNCIL AND NEW ALBANY CITY COUNCIL, WHICH IS WHERE WE'RE ALL AT RIGHT NOW. UM THEY TAKE FINAL ACTION ON ANY RESIGNING APPLICATION. AND USUALLY THERE'S THERE IS THREE MEETINGS BUT A REZONING APPLICATION. USUALLY PUBLIC INPUT OF THAT TAKES PLACE AT ONE MEETING. OUT OF THOSE TWO. HERE WE GO. SO THE NEXT LAYER OF DETAIL. THESE ARE KIND OF ALL STEPS REALLY GOING UP OR DOWN, DEPENDING ON HOW YOU WANNA LOOK AT IT, BUT SO THE FINAL KIND OF STEP BEFORE WE GET TO PERMITTING IS WHAT'S CALLED A FOUND DEVELOPMENT PLAN. SO THIS IS WHEN WE REALLY GET REALLY DETAILED INFORMATION. THIS IS A I CALL THESE ALMOST LIKE LIGHT ENGINEERING AND ARCHITECTURAL. ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION PLANS IS 
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USUALLY WHAT GETS SUBMITTED TO US. WE TAKE A LOOK AT THINGS LIKE GRADING WHAT EACH BUILDING WILL LOOK LIKE. WE'LL GET DETAILED ELEVATIONS ABOUT MATERIALS. HOW EXACTLY BIG HELP BIG SPACES WILL EXACTLY BE. THIS IS A VERY, VERY, VERY, VERY DETAILED APPLICATION. UM AND AGAIN AS PART OF THAT THERE IS ANOTHER PUBLIC REVIEW PROCESS. UM THIS ONE HAS THREE DIFFERENT STEPS. THIS IS SPECIFICALLY VERY HAMLET. SO FIRST I HAMLET DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE REVIEWED AND APPROVED BY THE REVIEWED BY THE PARKS AND TRAILS ADVISORY BOARD OF THE P T A. B THEY TAKE A LOOK AT THAT APARTMENT AND OPEN SPACE DEDICATIONS AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO CITY COUNCIL AND PLANNING COMMISSION. FOR HAMLETS. SPECIFICALLY THERE WAS A RECOMMENDATION THAT CAME THROUGH THE ADOPTION PROCESS BACK IN EARLY 2021 FROM THE ARCHITECTURE REVIEW BOARD, AND SINCE HAMLET AREAS ARE MORE FOCUSED ON YOU KNOW HOW THEY HOW DO THEY FEEL IN RELATION TO EACH OTHER AND FORM AND REALLY THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT? THE ARCHITECTURE OF THE BOARD SAID. 
          HEY YOU KNOW, SINCE WE DO THAT HERE IN THE VILLAGE CENTER, IT MIGHT BE APPROPRIATE FOR US TO TAKE A STAB AT THAT FOR HAMLET DEVELOPMENTS. SO WE'RE BUILDING THAT INTO OUR PROPOSED CODE CHANGES AS YOUR WE'LL TALK ABOUT HERE IN A MINUTE. AIR B AND THIS INSTANCE WILL REVIEW THE APPLICATION AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION WHO THEN THEY TAKE FINAL ACTION ON A FINAL DEVELOPMENT AND APPLICATION. AND AGAIN, I WANT TO REITERATE THIS IS WHERE WE GET REALLY, REALLY, REALLY DETAILED AND FROM INFORMATION. IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN TO A PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING. I KNOW SOME FOLKS IN THE ROOM HAVE BEEN, UM YOU KNOW, WE TAKE A PRETTY PRETTY CLOSE LOOK AT AN APPLICATION HERE AT THIS POINT. SO NEXT. WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IS WE DO HAVE FOLKS FROM CSK HERE. I'M GOING TO PASS IT OFF TO THEM TO KIND OF WALK US THROUGH THE PROCESS FOR THOSE PROJECTS, AND THEN WHAT KIND OF PASS THE MICROPHONE BACK AND FORTH A LITTLE BIT AS WE GO THROUGH THIS. YOU WANT TO THAT ONE MAY BE EASIER IF YOU'RE SPEAKING, HERE'S THE MOUSE AND YOU CAN CONTROL THAT ONE AND I'LL CONTROL THE BIGGER ONE BEHIND YOU. PERCENT OF THE ONE IN FRONT OF YOU. ONE OF MY NAME IS SARAH LILY PLANNER WITH MPS. 
          SO FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE HAMLET FOCUS AREA, WE FOLLOWED THE GENERAL PROCESS SHOWN HERE ON THE SLIDE FIRST TO DIG DEEPER INTO THIS CONCEPT, REVIEW CASE STUDIES AND OTHER RELEVANT LITERATURE RELATED TO HAMLETS. THEN, FROM THAT INFORMATION, WE DETERMINE WHAT THE ESSENTIAL COMPONENTS OF A HAMLET UM, SHOULD BE FOR NEW ALL. UM WE THEN EXPLORED HOW THIS CONCEPT MIGHT PLAY OUT IN NEW ALBANY BY CRAFTING DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENT SCENARIOS, DEVELOPMENT FRAMEWORK SCENARIOS AND FURTHER REFINE THOSE INTO CONCEPTUAL SAFE PLAN. WE USE THOSE TO KIND OF LAND ON ONE CONCEPTUAL SITE PLAN. THAT THE TEAM AGREED ON AND THEN IN TERMS OF OVERALL DESIGN AND ESPECIALLY FORM, AND THEN WE USE THAT AS A BASIS TO WRITE OUR HAMLET DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS. 
          AND THEN FINALLY, WE SUMMARIZE ALL THIS INFORMATION AND TO HAMLET FOCUS AREA DOCUMENT WHICH WAS INCLUDED, UM TONIGHT AND WE INTEND TO INCORPORATE THIS INTO THE WHOLE STRATEGIC PLAN IN THE FOCUS AREA CHAPTER. WRONG. YOUR FAVORITE. UH I'M SURE YOU ALL REMEMBER THE REALLY EXTENSIVE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PROCESS THAT WE DID AS PART OF ENGAGEMENT. ALBANY THE LARGEST FOR ANY, UM, PLANNING EFFORT REALLY, EVER. IN THE CITY. UM AND WE HEARD A LOT FROM THE PUBLIC FROM STEERING COMMITTEE. UM ON SOME KEY ISSUES THAT LED TO THE INCORPORATION OR REINCORPORATION REALLY HAVE THIS CONCEPT INTO THE STRATEGIC PLAN. UM WE WANTED TO EVEN PEOPLE'S HOMES AND DID NEIGHBORHOOD GATHERINGS AND HEARD ABOUT THE DESIRE FOR, UM YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WHO HAVE THEIR KIDS MOVE BACK TO THE COMMUNITY AND HAVE PLACES FRIENDS TO MOVE. UM, THIS SLIDE HERE, JUST SUMMARIZE IT. IT'S JUST ONE KIND OF SUMMARY SLIDE OF SOME OF THE PEOPLE WE RECEIVED. THAT LED TO THE REINCORPORATION OF THE HAMLET CONCEPT INTO ENGAGING IN ALBANY. WE HEARD ABOUT THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF LAND USES. PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE OF WE HEARD ABOUT THE DESIRE FOR NEW ALBANY TO BE MORE OF A LIFESPAN COMMUNITY IN TERMS OF HOUSING, HOUSING OPTIONS FOR ALL STAGES OF LIFE. AND THEN ADDING SOME LIMITED GEOGRAPHY RETAIL AREAS OUTSIDE THE VILLAGE CENTER TO ALLOW HER WALKABLE RETAIL, ESPECIALLY NORTH OF 1. 61 WAS A BIG THEME WE HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY. WAS A DESIRE FOR MORE THINGS TO DO. NORTH OF 1 61. SO I MENTIONED THAT AFTER REVIEWING CASE STUDIES AND RELEVANT LITERATURE, WE DEVELOPED THE COMPONENTS OF A NEW WELL BEING HAMLET WHICH ARE SHOWN HERE. SO THROUGH THIS HAMLET CONCEPT. WE'RE TRYING TO ENCOURAGE A 
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COMPACT, WALKABLE DEVELOPMENT. THAT HASN CENTRAL ORGANIZING PUBLIC SPACE BRAIN, FRESH STREETS AND BUILDINGS. TO BE CONSIDERED A HAMLET WOULD ENCOURAGE A MIX OF TWO OR MORE USES AND BUILDINGS IN A HAMLET SHOULD HAVE ACTIVE GROUND FLOOR USES. WE WANT TO PRIORITIZE CONNECTIONS THROUGH PUBLIC STREETS, SIDEWALKS AND OTHER PEDESTRIAN INVITE THE THAT ARE VERY, UM ESSENTIAL TO NEW ALBANY. A HAMLET SHOULD ALSO BE A DISTINCTIVE PLACE THAT IS DEFINED BY MEMORABLE ARCHITECTURE, PUBLIC SPACES IN PLACE MAKING AND HIGH QUALITY MATERIALS. PARKING SHOULD BE INTEGRATED THROUGH ON STREET SPOTS AND LOTS LOCATED BEHIND BUILDINGS. AND FINALLY, I HAMLET DEVELOPMENT SHOULD BE MINDFUL OF ITS CONTEXT AND TAKE ADVANTAGE. 
          AH THE EXISTING ASSETS, UM, ON SITE THROUGH HIGH QUALITY DESIGN. SO ORIGINALLY ENGAGED IN ALBANY WE HAD IDENTIFIED ON THE FUTURE LAND USE MAPS TO POTENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD HAMLETS, WHICH WERE SHOWN IN THE LITTLE KIND OF TAN. UM BULLSEYE THERE. ONE WAS THAT CENTRAL COLLEGE AND 65 AND THE OTHER ONES THAT THE FIVE POINTS INTERSECTION OF US 62 CENTRAL COLLEGE AND KITZMILLER ROADS. UM, WE'VE REMOVED THAT SECOND HAMLET LOCATION, AND SO IN DOING SO WE WOULD NEED TO UPDATE THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP AND THAT REVISED MAP IS SHOWN HERE ON THIS SIDE. 
          WITH JUST A SINGLE HAMLET AT CENTER. SO THIS, UM KIND OF DIGGING A LITTLE DEEPER. WE HAVE THE HAMLET FOCUS AREA AND THE BOUNDARY OF THAT IS SHOWN HERE. UM THIS SO LIKE I MENTIONED SAID THAT CENTRAL COLLEGE AND 65 UM, THE SITE WAS ALREADY IDENTIFIED IN ONE OF THE OTHER ENGAGEMENT FOCUS AREAS AS A POTENTIAL, UM, HAMLET SITE. AND IT WAS IDENTIFIED FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS. UM IT SERVES AS A MAJOR GATEWAY INTO THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY. IT'S LOCATED AT A PRIMARY INTERSECTION. IT'S LOCATED NORTH OF STATE ROUTE 1 51, WHICH AGAIN WAS A MAJOR THEME THAT WE HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY AND THE DESIRE FOR MORE HOUSING TYPES OF MORE THINGS TO DO. NORTHERN 1 61. IT'S CONNECTED TO AND WOULD HELP TO SERVE THE SURROUNDING BUSINESS PARK USERS IN THE AREA. AND IT SERVES AS A NICE TRANSITION SITE FROM THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY OR BETWEEN THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY IN THE CITY OF COLUMBUS, WHICH SITS JUST DIRECTLY WEST OF THE SITE. I INTERRUPT WITH ONE QUESTION. IS THAT THE DESIGNATED HAMLET AREA OR DOES CANADA EXPAND? BEYOND THAT? IT'S JUST WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS THE HANDLE AREA. SOME SOME SOME PICTURES SELVES CIRCLES THAT BEYOND THAT AREA. BUT YOU'RE SHOWING ACTUAL. IS THIS THE ACTUAL HAMLET OR CAN BE EXPANDED BEYOND THAT? I GUESS. ONE QUESTION THAT'S SOMETHING THAT CAMP AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION HEARING AT THE TOWARDS THE END OF PRESENTATIONAL ACTUALLY HIGHLIGHT THE ARE GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW OF THE HIGHLIGHTS OF THAT CONVERSATION AND ADDRESS THAT FOR YOU GUYS. THANK YOU. SS WAS TO DEVELOP THAT CONCEPTUAL DEVELOPMENT FRAMEWORK OF THE DIAGRAM SHOWN HERE WAS THE DEVELOPMENT FRAMEWORK, WHICH WAS DETERMINED BY THE PLANNING TEAM. AND THIS KIND OF STARTS TO IDENTIFY. THINGS LIKE STREET NETWORK THROUGH THE SITE AND WITHIN THE SITE. THERE'S THAT KIND OF EAST WEST STREET CONNECTION. YOU SEE THERE. IT ALSO KIND OF CERTIFIED IDENTIFIED GENERAL BLOCK LAYOUTS. WITH THE RESIDENTIAL USES CONCENTRATED ON THE EASTERN PORTION OF THE SITE AND THEN MIXED USE AND COMMERCIAL USE THIS CONCERT AND TRADED ON THE WESTERN PORTION OF SITE. AND AGAIN LIKE I MENTIONED THERE'S THAT CAN BE USED AS A STRONG TRANSITION BETWEEN THE CITY OF COLUMBUS AND ALBANY. UM. AND ANOTHER BIG PRIORITY IDENTIFIED IN THIS FRAMEWORK IS THE OPEN SPACE NETWORK GREEN SPACE NETWORK. THERE'S THE EXISTING SUGAR RUN FORD WORK, WHICH WOULD BE PRESERVED AND UTILIZED AS A PUBLIC AMENITY. AND IT WOULD TIE INTO THE SITE THROUGH THIS KIND OF CENTRAL GREEN. UM TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE WHO ARE WALKING OR HE'S IN THE FUTURE TRAILS TO GET TO EXPLORE. THANK GOD YEAH, GOING BACK TO THE KIND OF HAMLET CONCEPTS THAT WE HAD IDENTIFIED . WE WANTED TO HAVE A REALLY STRONG ORGANIZING CENTRAL GREEN SPACE WHAT WE'VE DONE. SO FROM THE DEVELOPMENT FRAMEWORK ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE, FURTHER ITERATED THAT CONCEPT TO CREATE THE CONCEPTUAL CYCLONE YOU SEE HERE AND AGAIN, THIS IS CONCEPTUAL, NOT A DEVELOPMENT OF PROPOSAL. 
          UM FOR AN ACTUAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN. WE'VE SHOWN SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ON THE EAST. UH, 
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UNFORTUNATELY, SITE OVER HERE. TOWN HOMES ALONG 605 IN CENTRAL COLLEGE. DARKER ORANGE. AND THOSE WOULD HELP TO CREATE OVERLAY ATTRACTIVE FRONTAGE FOR THOSE ROADWAYS. AND THEN, LIKE I MENTIONED WE'VE GOT THAT KIND OF MIXED USE COMMERCIAL CORE WITH THE CENTRAL GREEN AND SOME MIXED USE COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS WITH ACTIVE GROUND FOR USES AGAIN. THAT WAS ANOTHER ESSENTIAL COMPONENT OF HAMLET THAT WE HAD IDENTIFIED. AND THAT MIXED USE COMMERCIAL ALSO CONTINUES THEN INTO THE NORTHWEST PORTION OF THAT SITE AGAIN, CREATING AN ATTRACTIVE FRONTAGE AND ACTIVE FRONTAGE ALONG CENTRAL COLLEGE AND HELPING TO CREATE A TRANSITION ZONE IN THE CITY OF PROMISED TO NORMAN. WE'VE GOT THE MORE OTHER MENTIONED NATURALIZED SUGAR BUN CORRIDOR. 
          TOWN LEADERS FAILED CONNECTIONS AND THEN SOUTH OF THAT WE'VE INCLUDED IN ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY. WHICH WOULD HELP TO PROVIDE HOUSING OPTIONS FOR BOTH TO, UM, AGENT PLACE IN THE AND WE'VE INCORPORATED AN APPROPRIATE AMOUNT OF PARKING ON SITE THROUGH ON STREET PARKING AND LOTS TALK. TALK BEHIND. BUILDINGS. FOR IN. SO, UM. WE DID END UP VISUALIZING HOW THIS MIGHT LOOK INTO FEEL IF IT WERE TO BE DEVELOPED AS WE'VE SHOWN HERE AGAIN. CONCEPTUAL. THIS IS NOT DIFFERENT FROM SOME OF THE OTHER FOCUS AREAS THAT WE INCLUDED IN THE STRATEGIC PLAN, WHICH WE TOOK ALL THE WAY TO THE RENDERING LEVEL. UM, THERE WAS THE VILLAGE CENTER IN THE GANG. 
          RENDERINGS INCLUDED IN THE STRATEGIC PLAN. SO THIS IS JUST THAT SAME IDEA RIGHT WITH THE HAMLET FOCUS AREA. UM SO THIS IS LOOKING SOUTHWEST. SO THIS IS CENTRAL COLLEGE RIGHT HERE. THIS ROADWAY. OVER HERE WITH THE SIX OF FIVE. WE'RE KIND OF LOOKING SOUTHWEST. AND UM, YOU CAN SEE THE TOWN HOMES THAT WOULD BE FRONTING. THOSE ROADWAYS. UM REALLY, WE REALLY ARE PRIORITIZING. UM. PRESERVING THE NEW ALBANY CHARACTER FOR ROADWAYS AND UTILIZING ALL THE TYPICAL STREETSCAPE FEATURES LIKE THE LEADER TRAIL CONNECTION. THE TREE LINE THE HORSE FENCE TO CONTINUE THE NEW ALBANY CHARACTER IN THIS AREA. AND THEN WE ALSO DID A BIRD'S EYE AGAIN LOOKING SOUTHWEST. SO THIS IS CENTRAL COLLEGE. THIS IS 65. THIS IS THE FORMER DISCOVERY SITE OVER HERE. AH SO YOU CAN SEE THE SUGAR RUN CORRIDOR THERE THE BACKGROUND WITH ALL THE TREES. AND, UM, YOU KIND OF GET A SENSE OF HOW THIS THING MIGHT LOOK IN TERMS OF SCALE AND, UM I THINK IT'S NOT TOO DIFFERENT FROM FROM OTHER AREAS WITHIN NEW ALBANY. AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE ALSO LOOKED AT. AS PART OF THIS PROCESS, THE INTENT TO HAVE THE BUILDING HEIGHT AT LEAST ON THOSE TOWN HOMES ON ST FRONT TWO STORY 2.5 STORY THREE STORY. WHAT ISN'T IT? THE INTENDED TO BE CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE HAVE IN THE BUILDING CENTER. SO GENERALLY SPEAKING, AT LEAST ON THE BUILDINGS THAT FRONT AND CENTRAL COLLEGES 65 WERE SAYING ABOUT 40 45 FT, I THINK IS WHAT WE HAVE IN CATHOLIC. ENRICHMENT SQUARE. WE'D LIKE TO TRY THE MIRROR THEM. OKAY? ALONG THE ROADWAY. AND IS THAT DEMONSTRATED IN THIS PICTURE OVER LOOKING AT HERE? OKAY SO CAN YOU SHOW US LIKE MORE THAN 40? FT ARE 55 SO WE CAN? YES. SO THE 40 FT ALL ALONG THE ROADWAYS , SO ALL THE BUILDINGS FRONTING AND THEN JUST OBVIOUSLY, FOR YOU KNOW IF THESE TOWN HOMES ARE CAPITAL, 40 FT ALL THE TIME. MOST OF THE CABINET 40 FT. THE MIXED USE QUARTERBACK HERE WE CAPTAIN AND MAXIMUM OF 55 FT. WHY DID YOU INCREASE THAT? THE SO. THE ORIGINAL, UM, HAMLET DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AND ENGAGE IN ALBANY WERE LISTED AT UM, ACCORDING TO STORIES, WHICH BASED ON OUR FURTHER STUDY, BASED ON EXISTING CONDITIONS IN NEW ALBANY, WE WANTED TO PROVIDE YOU ALL WITH A LITTLE MORE TANGIBLE, UM, GUIDELINE IN TERMS OF APPROVING A DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND SO, UM, WE. REPRESENTED THOSE FEET RATHER THAN STORIES, UM, TO BE MORE CONSISTENT. WE DID A COMPARISON OF SOME OF THE RESIDENTIAL UNITS. I'LL GET YOUR IMMEDIATE QUESTION. BUT AS WE WERE LOOKING AT. WHAT DOES WHAT DOES A TWO STORY STRUCTURE LOOKS LIKE? VERSUS WHAT DOES THE THREE STORY STRUCTURE LOOKS LIKE? THERE'S A LOT OF ROOM FOR DEVIATION BETWEEN, SAY, TWO STORY BUILDING THAT COULD BE 30 35 FT UP TO 40 45 FT. SO RATHER THAN THE TWO STORIES WITH A LOT 
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OF ROOM WERE. FOR DISCRETION. WE WANTED TO TRY TO MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE SPECIFIC. THAT SAME THING APPLIES TO THE THREE STORY STRUCTURES OR GENERALLY THREE STORIES. THOSE ARE REFLECTIVE OF WHAT WE HAVE ACROSS THE STREET MARKET IN MAINE. WITH THE COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS WITH THE RETAIL ON THE FIRST FLOOR AND THE COMMERCIAL OFFICE ON THE SECOND. THAT WAS 55 FT. THOSE ARE THOSE ARE BETWEEN 50 AND 55. FT. IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY. WHICH ONE'S WHICH BUILDING THE MARKET'S MAIN WANTED TO APARTMENTS ARE APPROXIMATELY 50 FT. EACH. THE. 
          STARBUCKS RUSTY BUCKET THAT AREA. I BELIEVE THOSE ARE SLIGHTLY SHORTER. BUT I WOULD SAY OFF TOP OF MY HEAD, I THINK ABOUT 45 FT. YEAH THAT'S STILL BE KIND OF INTERESTED IN KNOWING WHAT I KNOW BECAUSE OF BUILDING DESIGNER WHATNOT. WHAT 55 FT. DOES THAT MEAN THREE STORIES THERE? DOES THAT MEAN FOUR STORIES THERE? THAT'S GENERALLY I WOULD SAY THREE STORIES ARE WE HAD AS WE TALKED THIS THROUGH. THERE WAS NO DISCUSSION WHATSOEVER FOR STORIES. IT WAS EVERYTHING WAS IN THAT 2 TO 3 STORY RANGE. OKAY AND WHAT'S THE APARTMENTS? ONE MORE TIME. JOE IS AT 55 FT THERE ABOUT 50. THE APARTMENTS ARE FIT. OH SO THERE'S ROOM TO PLAY WITH US. I THINK WHAT WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD ENOUGH SPACE THERE. IT'S NOT GOING TO GIVE YOU ENOUGH SPACE FOR AN EXTRA STORY THAT THERE'S ENOUGH SPACE THERE TO GIVE SOME ARCHITECTURAL DORMER OR SOMETHING THAT MY CONCERN. AT 55 BECOMES FOUR STORY WHEN OUR INTENT WAS THAT IT WAS THREE STORY AND THEN WE GET INTO THIS WHOLE. I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN OUR INTENTIONS. 
          IT'S INTENDED BUT DEVELOPMENT AND COMING WITH THE PLAN ALL OF A SUDDEN, THAT'S FOUR STORIES. I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN BE MORE. SPECIFIC 55 FT. THREE STORIES STORIES ABOUT AROUND YEAH, ABOUT THAT ABOVE GROUND, SO WE WERE CLEAR ON WHAT THE EXPECTATION BUT DO WE KNOW OF ANY BUILDINGS THAT ARE 55 FT THAT ARE FOUR STORIES THAT SEEMS LIKE SOME PRETTY SHORT SHORT FLOORS. NOT MORE COMPANY. YEAH RIGHT SPACE ON THE TOP FLOOR THAT WOULD BE GETTING PAST THE RB THEN AND THAT'S RIGHT THAT WE'RE NOT, BUT IT DOESN'T HURT. THROW INTO THAT IN THERE NONETHELESS SO THAT THE INTENTION IS CLEAR WE MIGHT DO IS IF THAT'S A CONCERN OF COUNCIL. WE COULD ACTUALLY LOWER THAN 55 TO SOME IT'S 50, AND THEN YOU'RE CERTAINLY NOT GOING TO GET A FOUR STORY THAT'S OUTSIDE THE RETAIL MARKET IN MAINE IS 45. I'D BE MORE COMFORTABLE WITH 50 55 START TO FEEL A LITTLE ITEM. WHAT'S THAT ? GREAT THAT, BUT THE APARTMENTS ARE 50 50 OR 55. DID WE SAY ABOUT 50 50 AND THE TOP OF THE ROOF LINE CORRECT. IS THERE A CONCERN OR IS THERE A REASON WHY YOU WERE RECOMMENDING 55 VERSUS FIFTIES THAT ARCHITECTURAL LOOK OR SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T WANT TO MESS UP. GOOD EVENING, CHRIS FURMAN. SCARY, UM YEAH, IT'S TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF FLEXIBILITY ON THE ARCHITECTURE. ONE POINT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THIS. I'M SURE EVEN HOLD UP MORE BUT REALLY UNDERSTAND IS THE WE'RE TRYING TO MOVE THE RETAIL OFF VERY BUSY STREETS. IT WILL BE OUTLAWED DRIVE THROUGH RETAIL. IT'S ON THOSE STREETS THAT AGAIN AND WE WANTED TO BE WALKABLE. 
          BRINGS FACE KNOB DOOR SEATING. REALLY? VERY AUTHENTIC NEW ALBANY NOT NOT TO TALK ABOUT. 
          EXACTLY TALKING ABOUT WERE INTENTIONALLY MOVING IT INTO THE CENTER OF THE DEVELOPMENT. BUT ONCE YOU DO THAT, YOU'RE MAKING RETAIL TALK. SO THERE'S THIS KIND OF LEVEL OF DENSITY WE NEED TO GET TO MAKE IT REALISTIC TO MOVE THE RETAIL FROM CENTRAL COLLEGE SIX OR FIVE INTO THE SITE, THE LAST OF LEVERAGE. SUGAR RUN CREATED GREEN AND THE GREAT SPACE. WORK, PUTTING THE HEIGHTS THERE. SO WE CAN GO TOLERANCE. IT'S GOING TO LEVERAGE THAT GREEN SPACE IT'S INTERNAL TO THE SITE. AND IT GIVES FLEXIBILITY MAKE THAT RETAIL WORK AND PRESIDENTIAL OKAY? SO. MADE A LOT OF DEPTH. THIS THINKING WHEN YOU'RE SAYING THAT I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU WHEN YOU'RE SAYING THAT TO MAKE THE RETAIL WORK ARE YOU THINKING? THAT SHOULD BE FOUR STORIES OR THREE STORIES. UM, THREE STORIES IS FINE. I PERSONALLY BUT YOU CAN SAY NO 
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MORE STORIES EVEN WORK AT THE CENTER. THE EDGES. I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO STATE WHERE THE HEIGHT IS NOT FOR THIS. WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO. THE HEIGHT IS IN THE CENTER AWAY FROM EDGES , CREATING A NICE EDGE COMMUNITY ON CENTRAL COLLEGE AND 65. HIDE IN THE CENTER TO MAKE THE RETAIL WORK AND COMMUNITY CENTER WORK AROUND THE GREENS REALLY WALKABLE, REALLY DYNAMIC. CAN TALK MORE ABOUT THAT. BUT THAT IS IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND. SO NO. YEAH, UM. AND OBVIOUSLY THIS IS CONCEPTUAL. THIS IS NOT NECESSARILY WHAT IT DEVELOPER IS GOING TO PRESENT TO US. BUT AS I THINK ABOUT HAMLET, AND WE TALKED ABOUT MANY TIMES IS THAT HAMLET IS A SMALL IT IS NOT INTENDED TO BE THE CENTER OF TOWN. IT IS NOT INTENDED TO BE MARKET STREET. IT'S A SMALLER VERSION APPRECIATE THAT. I DON'T SEE IT NEED TO BE AT 50 FT WHEN WE'RE NOT EVEN THERE IN THE CENTER OF TOWN. AND AS A RESULT, IF IT'S 40 FT, OR 44, FT, OR 45 FT INTO STORIES, I THINK THAT'S A WORKABLE SOLUTION. AND I THINK THAT'S UP TO THE DEVELOPER TO COME IN AND WORK WITHIN THE STANDARDS ARE NOT COMPARABLE SETTING STANDARDS HIGHER. FROM THE PERSPECTIVE THAT A LOT CAN GO ON WITHIN THAT. I FEEL MUCH MORE COMFORTABLE WITH LOWER STANDARDS. OFF STANDARDS. BUT IN THIS CASE HEIGHT THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AND IF SOMEONE COMES IN AS THE 46, OR 47 NEEDS AN EXCEPTION OR VARIANTS FINE, BUT IN 50 OR 55, I DON'T SEE ANY. I'M NOT QUESTIONING YOUR DESIGN JUDGE. I'M JUST SAYING FROM THE COMMUNITY AND WHERE I WOULD SEE IT LIKE TO BE ABOUT 40 45 FT. MIDDLE AND I APPRECIATE PUTTING IT OFF THE ROAD, BUT KEEP IT THE SAME THINK THAT'S THE FIRST VALID. DEFINITELY BALANCE IS DEFINITELY NOT AGAINST. BUT ALL RIGHT ENOUGH YEAR THAT WE CAN MAKE THE CONCEPT WORK. I WOULD AGREE WITH WHAT MY ACCESS. WE DON'T WANT TO COMPETE AGAINST THE VILLAGE CENTER. WE STILL HAVE A WHOLE AREA BACK HERE IN THE VILLAGE CENTER THAT CAN BE AND WILL BE DEVELOPED. AND YOU, YOU HAVE A LOT OF ADDITIONAL MATERIAL TO PRESIDENT RIGHT? OKAY HERE A LITTLE BIT. IS THAT A LEADING QUESTION? I'M USED TO THAT AT HOME. YES. SO I APPRECIATE ALL THE REALLY THOUGHTFUL QUESTIONS SO FAR. SO WE HAVE 13 DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS THAT WE, UH INCLUDED. FOR ANY DEVELOPER THAT SEEKS TO BUILD A HAMLET THEY WOULD NEED TO MEET THESE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS. SO THESE ARE INTENDED TO REPLACE THE EXISTING AND DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AND ENGAGEMENT, ALBANY. SO WE DID DETERMINE. HIM LIKE DENSITY OF 60 UNITS PER ACRE. AND WE BELIEVE THIS IS NECESSARY THE NECESSARY DENSITY TO OBTAIN A CRITICAL MASK THAT WOULD ENABLE THE HAMLET DEVELOPMENT TO WORK GIVEN THE TYPE OF RETAIL AND COMMERCIAL USES DESIRED HERE. WE ALSO ARRIVED AT A RATIO OF ABOUT 75% DEVELOPED LAND TO 25% PARKS AND OPEN SPACE AGAIN USING THIS SITE THAT WE HAVE UM. WE'VE WORKED ON AS A AS A GUIDING POST FOR THESE STANDARDS. WE ALSO WANTED TO PROVIDE GUIDANCE FOR THE MIX OF USES IN A HAMLET, SO WE CAME UP WITH A MINIMUM RATIO LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN SOME OF THE OTHERS WITH MAXIMUM A MINIMUM RATIO OF 200 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL SPACE. FOR EVERYONE WELLING UNIT. THIS RATIO WOULD HELP TO ENSURE A VIBRANT MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT. WE ALSO PROVIDE EXAMPLES OF THE TYPES OF COMMERCIAL USES. THAT WOULD BE ENCOURAGED IN THE HAMLET, WHICH INCLUDES ADMINISTRATIVE BUSINESS AND PROFESSIONAL OFFICES FOR PERSONAL SERVICES IS RETAIL STORES, RESTAURANTS AND SMALL HOTELS. WE WOULD DISCOURAGE DRIVE THROUGH RESTAURANTS TO PRESERVE THE PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED NATURE OF A HAMLET IN THE TYPE OF RETAIL LOCATED THERE. WE ALSO I WANT TO ENCOURAGE. A DIVERSITY OF VARIETY OF COMMERCIAL USES THAT WE DON'T END UP WITH TOO MANY OF ONE TYPE OF BUSINESS AS WE WANT. A HAMLET TO BE ACTIVE, UM THROUGHOUT THE DAY, RATHER THAN JUST THAT PEAK TIMES, CREATING ANY KIND OF TRAFFIC ISSUES. AS WE JUST DISCUSSED. WE DID DETERMINE A MAXIMUM HEIGHT, WHICH IS CURRENTLY AS IT THREATENED. MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF 55 FT. AROUND THE CIVIC GREEN THAT CENTER, WHICH IS THAT THESE 250 FT FROM CENTRAL COLLEGE ROAD AND STAY AROUND 605. AND NOT TALLER THAN 40. FT AT THE PERIMETER. SO PUBLIC STREETS. UM WE WANT TO 
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SEE PUBLIC STREETS AND THE HAMLET LINE PREDOMINANTLY WITH BUILDINGS, WITH THE EXCEPTION FOR LIMITED DRIVES, PUBLIC SPACES AND PROPERLY SCREENED PARKING. IS WHAT ENSURE THAT STREETS ENCOURAGE PEDESTRIAN ACTIVITY. YOU WANT GARAGES TO FACE THE REAR OF LOTS AND GARAGE DOORS, NOT FACING PRIMARY STREETS. AND PARKING SHOULD BE INTEGRATED THROUGHOUT WITH SITE AND SERVICE. LOTS SHOULD BE PROPERLY SCREENED. DR LOCATIONS SHOULD BE KEPT TO A MINIMUM AND THE PLACEMENT OF BUILDINGS ON SITE SHOULD ENCOURAGE PEDESTRIAN ACTIVITY. DETAILS. AND WE WANT T TO SUBMIT A PARKING MODEL TO DEMONSTRATE SUFFICIENT PARKING IS PROVIDED FOR THE USES THAT THEY INCLUDE ON SITE SO WE WOULD ALSO ENCOURAGE SHARED PARKING AMONG USES SO WE DON'T END UP WITH OVERBUILT PARKING. AND BASED ON SOME DISCUSSIONS WE HAD WITH PLANNING COMMISSION PREVIOUSLY, IF THE TENANTS OF A HAMLET SIGNIFICANTLY CHANGED OR THE USE MIXED CHANGES, THE DEVELOPER WOULD NEED TO RESUBMIT THE PARKING MODEL TO CITY ZONING STAFF FOR REVIEW. POTENTIAL HAMLET DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL SHOULD INCLUDE AN OVERALL MASTER PLAN. AND IT'S ALSO EXPECTED TO GO THROUGH THE REZONING PROCESS . AND FINALLY, A POTENTIAL HAMLET DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL MUST REFERENCE THE POLITICAL CHAPTERS OF THE GRS. THOSE ARE THE 13TH STANDARDS THAT WE'VE INCLUDED. 
          UM CAN I ASK QUESTIONS? SORRY. IT'S JUST BECAUSE I'M AN ANNOYING LAWYER. UM I'M LOOKING AT THE WRITTEN STANDARDS. IT'S JUST BUILDINGS MAY NOT BE TALLER THAN 55 FT. IN HEIGHT AROUND THE CIVIC GREEN, AT LEAST 200 FT FROM CENTRAL COLLEGE DRUGS. I WAS ABOUT TO LOOK THROUGH THIS COPY OF THE ORDINANCES WITH THE CONVENTION, EVERGREEN. WAS DEFINED. I'M JUST CONCEPTUALIZING IT A SITUATION WHERE DEVELOPER MIGHT NOT WANT TO PUT A CIVIC GREEN IN AND IT SEEMS LIKE THE PLAN THAT YOU GUYS HAVE REALLY PUT A LOT OF THOUGHT INTO ISRAELI. THAT'S REALLY FOCUSED AROUND IT IS THAT A DEFINED TERM IS THAT THERE IS THAT CAN WE WORK THAT MORE INTO THE STANDARDS? OH, I DON'T SEE A REASON WHY WE COULDN'T INCORPORATED MORE. WE DEFINED IT THROUGH KIND OF THE ELECTIVE DIAGRAMS GO INTO THIS CHAPTER LATER IN YOUR CAN I FOLLOW UP TO YOUR QUESTION, SO IN THAT 25% GREEN SPACE. AS PROPOSED IN THIS CONCEPTUAL PLAN IS THAT CIVIC GREEN CONSIDERED PART OF THE 25. YES SO IF THEY DID GET RID OF IT , THEN THEY WOULD NOT BE AT THAT 25% OF THEY'D HAVE TO READ WELL , BUT THEY COULD SEE A SITUATION WHERE THEY WOULD PUT GREEN SPACE. AROUND IN DIFFERENT PLACES, AND THERE WOULDN'T BE THAT CENTRAL LOCATION SO WELL, THEY MIGHT IF THEY WANTED TO ADVANTAGE OF THAT HIGH IT WOULD BE UNCLEAR WHERE THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO DO THAT IF THERE WASN'T A DEDICATED CIVIC GREEN SPACE. NO, SO IT'S A GOOD POINT. YOU FORGOT. SEVERAL POINTS, AND IT MIGHT NOT UNUSUAL, RIGHT. UH BUT I'D LIKE TO KIND OF TOUCH ON MY POINTS AND THEN LET EVERYBODY GO THERE. BECAUSE RALPH KEEP INTERJECTING. MAYBE IT MIGHT BE EASIER TO GET IT ONCE YOU KNOW, MIKE, I WANT TO THANK UM CASKEY. ALL YOUR WORK AND THEN THE ADMINISTRATION. THIS IS A VERY CRITICAL ISSUE. I THINK TO THE COMMUNITY AND I THINK WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL AS WE SET THESE STANDARDS BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN THE ARCHITECTURAL VIEW AND EVERYBODY ELSE. IS GOING TO HAVE TO UTILIZE WHENEVER DEVELOPMENT PLAN COMES FORWARD. WHATEVER THEY LOOK LIKE SO WHEN I GO THROUGH. THE LIST OF DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS THAT YOU WENT THROUGH . I THINK WHEN, WHEN I STARTED THE TOP AND SAY A DENSITY OF SIX DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 35 OR 40 ACRES HERE, WE'RE TALKING POTENTIALLY 240. HOUSEHOLD UNITS. I'M NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THAT KIND OF NUMBER. THAT'S MY PERSONAL PREFERENCE. I THINK FOR PURPOSES OF SCHOOL AND OTHER ISSUES, I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE LOWER THAN I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU APPROPRIATE NUMBER IS TWO, MAYBE THREE PUTTING INTO WE'RE PUTTING IN 80 HOUSEHOLDS OR THREE WE'RE PUTTING IN, YOU KNOW, 120 HOUSEHOLDS. THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER TWO A SPACE THAT LARGE, SO I'M NOT COMFORTABLE WITH SIX AND I'M NOT DIRECTING MY COMMENTS TO YOU. I'M DIRECTING HIM TO ADMINISTRATION PROCESS. SO I THINK WE NEED TO REALLY STEP BACK AND LOOK HARD AT THAT. I THINK THE 25% PARKS AND OPEN SPACE. I THINK IT'S NOT THAT WE HAVE THAT 25. I THINK THIS PARTICULAR PARCEL WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HAS A LOT OF GREEN SPACE JUST BECAUSE OF THE CREEP. SO HOW MUCH MORE GREEN SPACE WILL DEVELOPER PUT IN? SO WAS 30 
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BETTER THAN 25? I DON'T KNOW, BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE MORE GREEN INSPECTORS. THE 25% PART OF THE CREEK AND THE YEAH, THE POINT AND SO THE HARD PART FOR ME TO JUDGE WHEN YOU SAY 5% IF I JUST USED THE CREEK HOW MUCH MORE DOES THAT LEAVE FOR THEM TO ADD IN AND CREATE THE GREEN SPACE THAT WE'RE TALKING SO IS THAT THAT'S NOT SELECTION. UM THE RATIO OF 200 SQUARE FEET TO COMMERCIAL USE TO ONE DWELLING. I HAVE NO REASON TO QUESTION RIGHT OR WRONG. BUT IF WE WERE TO LOWER THE DENSITY TO GIVE THEM ROOM TO BUILD MORE COMMERCIAL, THAT RATIO WOULD HAVE TO ADJUST. AND THEN. THE HEIGHT OF HAVE ALREADY COMMENTED ON HOW I FEEL ABOUT ABOUT THAT. 
          UM THE. I THINK THERE SHOULD BE SOMETHING IN HERE WHEN WE TALK ABOUT HIM AFTER PARKING PLAN, I THINK IT DEVELOPS. DEVELOPERS SHOULD ALSO BE REQUIRED TO COME IN WITH ANY SCHOOL IMPACT. AS PART OF THEIR PRESENTATION AND PROPOSAL THAT'S NOT IN THE STANDARDS HERE. SO I THINK THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT. IN THE LAST POINT WOULD BE AND I CAN CHIP TOUCHED ON IT EARLIER IS THE DEFINITION OF WHERE THIS HAMLET IS. AND MY CONCERN IS ON THE STRATEGIC PLAN. IT'S A RED DOT AT AN INTERSECTION. AND WHEN I LOOK AT IT, I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE MORE CONTAINED. I DON'T KNOW THAT IT NEEDS TO BE EAST OF 605, AND I DON'T THINK IT NEEDS TO BE NORTH OF CENTRAL COLLEGE IN SOME OF THE COMMENTS IN IN YOUR ENGAGED IN ALBANY PIECE. YOU TALK ABOUT THE UTILIZATION OF THE DISCOVERY BUILDING INTO A HAMLET CONCEPT, AND I THINK THAT'S A COMMERCIAL SPACE AND I'M HAPPY TO HAVE THAT BEING COMMERCIAL SPACE AND NOT TRY TO BECOME A HAMLET, WHICH MAY INCORPORATE RESIDENTIAL ETCETERA. SO I THINK DEFINING WHERE THAT THE BOUNDARIES OF THE HAMLET WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SHOULD BE INCORPORATED INTO BOTH THIS AND THE STRATEGIC PLAN MORE CLEARLY DEFINED. AND I DON'T SEE ANY REASON BEYOND EAST OF SIX. AND IT SHOULD BE A MORE CONDENSED THAT CONDENSED. RECTANGLE OR THAT YOU DESIGNED THINK THAT'S ADEQUATE, BUT I THINK WE HAVE TO BE VERY DEFINITIVE. OTHERWISE SOMEBODY COULD COME ALONG AND SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW LITTLE BIT ON THIS SIDE OF 605 KEEP PUSHING IT FURTHER DOWN CENTRAL COLLEGE. WHY CAN'T THAT BE PART OF THE HAND? BECAUSE RED DOT DOESN'T 28 THE RANGE OF RADIUS OF WHAT THEY WE DON'T WANT HANDLING CREEPING. SO THOSE ARE MY GREAT MY BIG ISSUES LIKE THAT. I'M NOT COMFORTABLE WITH SO YEAH, SORRY. ONE WINDED, BUT HMM. I THINK WE'LL GET AT SOME OF THOSE ARE GOOD TO BRING UP. I THINK WE'LL GET SOME OF THOSE AS WE CONTINUE THE PRESENTATION NEXT. CHRIS IS GOING TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE DENSITY. WE'LL TALK ABOUT BUILDING HIDES THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          SO YEAH, WHILE YOU'RE ROLLING TO THE NEXT SLIDE, THEN JUST ON THAT DENSITY JUST AGAIN. 
          COMPARISON WHAT IS OUR DENSITY DOWNTOWN AGAIN? SELLING AN ACCIDENT. GOOD TRANSITION POINTI THOUGHT IT WAS 12 OR 14. I JUST DON'T REMEMBER ME DO IT. OTHER. AREAS IN SUBDIVISIONS WITHIN NEW ALBANY. UM, WE WERE OBVIOUSLY WITH DENSITY. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PRESIDENTIAL UNIT, SO WE LOOKED AT JUST RESIDENTIAL AREAS. RICHMOND SQUARE, 15. UNIT AND ACRE CATHOLIC 18 UNITS AN ACRE. WINDSOR SEVEN UNITS AN ACRE AND THEN WE ALSO LOOKED NORTH 1 61 AT THE LINKS AT THREE ACRE IN THE COURTYARD THAT'S FOR YOU TODAY. I WOULD LIKE TO JUST SAY THAT. PROBABLY GOING TO SAY SOMETHING THAT MIGHT BE A LITTLE UNPOPULAR IN THE ROOM. BUT MIKE , I HAPPEN TO AGREE WITH ALMOST EVERYTHING THAT YOU SAID. ALMOST EVERYTHING. UM BUT I THINK THE UNPOPULAR THING IS GOING TO BE THIS AT SOME POINT. WE HAVE TO DECIDE. DO WE WANT TO MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT OR DON'T WE? AND FOR YEARS NOW WE'VE HAD PEOPLE SAY TO US. THEY WANT MORE RETAIL. THEY WANT MORE RESTAURANTS. THEY WANT MORE SOCIAL ENGAGEMENT. AND NOW WE HEARD THIS TIME THEY'D LIKE TO SEE MORE OF IT NORTH OF 1 61. AND FOR YEARS WE'VE BEEN TRYING DESPERATELY TO GET MORE RESTAURANTS INTO THE MARKET AREA , AND IT'S VERY DIFFICULT WHEN I ALWAYS SAY WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH. BEDS WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH HEADS IN THE BEDS IF YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE THERE ARE NOT GOING TO GET RESTAURANTS OR ANY OF THAT IN THIS HAMLET, AND AT THAT POINT, THEN WE NEED TO JUST SAY THAT'S NOT WHAT WE WANT IN OUR CITY AND MAYBE THAT'S THE ANSWER. BUT I HONESTLY THINK IF YOU GO TO A DENSITY LIKE THE 
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LINKS, WHICH IS WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING, WHEN YOU SAY ACTUALLY LESS THAN THE LINKS BECAUSE THE LYNXES THREE ACCORDING TO THAT SLIDE, AND YOU'RE SAYING 2 TO 3 AT THAT POINT. NO DEVELOPER IS GOING TO DEVELOP THIS INTO A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT. SO I THINK WE HAVE A HARD QUESTION TO ANSWER. I PERSONALLY LIVE IN WINDSOR, WHERE WE HAVE SEVEN UNITS PER ACRE. IT'S NEVER BOTHERED ME AND I DO KNOW THAT WE NEED TO DEAL WITH THE IMPACT ON SCHOOLS AND I GET THAT AND THAT IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT. AND I THINK GETTING THOSE STATISTICS AND HOLDING SOMEBODY TO TASK ON THOSE IS GOING TO BE A VERY IMPORTANT PART OF THIS. BUT IF WE DON'T WANT ANY DENSITY HERE THAN WE'RE NOT, THIS ISN'T GOING TO WORK AND WE MIGHT AS WELL JUST STOP NOW AND NOT READ. YOU KNOW? REGENERATE HOW WE WANT THIS TO BE IN THIS AREA. AND ONE STEAL YOUR THUNDER HERE, BUT I THINK THE OTHER THING THAT WE NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT IS THE SIZE OF EACH INDIVIDUAL RESIDENTIAL UNION RESIDENTIAL UNIT. MORE KIDS ARE GOING TO BE GENERATED TO IMPACT THE SCHOOL. 
          THE SMALLER FOOTPRINT. THE FEWER CHILDREN BASED ON BASED ON THE HARD DATA THAT WE HAVE NOT ONLY IN NEW ALBANY BUT AROUND THE OUTER BELT, SO IT. WOULD WITH THAT? HOPEFULLY, UH, I DIDN'T DERAIL YOU TOO MUCH, BUT THAT'S A GOOD POINT THAT WE I THINK A LITTLE BIT MORE TO THE DENSITY AND MAYBE HELP ANSWER SOME OF YOUR QUESTIONS. STEPHANIE. FOCUSED ON DENSITY. IT'S ONE MEASURE. BEEN DONE IN THE BACK. GOOD ANALOGY, BUT YOU KNOW JUST LOOK AT DENSITIES LIKE ONE OF THE FACTORS AMERICAN BRINGS PERSONALITIES. IT'S IMPORTANT. BUT PERSONALITY VERY DIFFERENT. 
          THE OTHER THREE TIMES. AND. POINT IS THAT ONE METRIC IS IMPORTANT. BUT AS JOE IS GETTING TO THE TYPE OF UNIT THE PRICE OF THE UNIT. THE DESIGN OF THE UNIT DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT ARCHITECTURE WILL AFFECT WHO CALMS WHETHER THERE'S KIDS, UM KIND OF DEMOGRAPHIC YOU'RE AIMING FOR. AND. COULD DO ARCHITECTURALLY WELL, FOR EXAMPLE, ON A TEST WORK ETHIC IS PHENOMENAL. JUST THINK OF ANYTHING PICTURE LIKE IT, ETCETERA. IT'S GOT ORGANIZED GREEN SPACE. IT'S GOT POTENTIAL FRAMES THE SPACE PRETTY SOLID WALL BUILDING IS FANTASTIC. AH, THAT'S WHAT YOU THINK. IT'S HELPING TO SUPPORT WHAT GOES ON ACROSS THE STREET. AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO. THE HANDLING IS THE SAME. DEFINITELY NOT THAT SMALLER SCALE AND THERE'S A BIT OF A YOU KNOW. CAREFUL, CAREFULLY CRAFTED CRAFTED THING. UM BUT DENSITY IS PART OF IT. 
          MAYBE EXPERIENCE A LITTLE BIT MORE BACKGROUND. YOU WILL KNOW THIS, BUT JUST TO SAY WE'RE FROM SO DURING THE STRATEGIC PLAN. IN THE STEERING COMMITTEE MEETINGS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD COPIES AND IN THE PUBLIC WORKSHOP. ONE OF THESE THAT CAME OUT. REPEATEDLY WAS. WE KNEW ALREADY NEED TO BE ABLE TO CREATE A LIFE SPAN. WE HAVE A LOT OF GREAT PRODUCT FAMILIES. THERE'S PEOPLE THAT HAVE KIDS MOVED ON. THEY WANT TO STAY INVOLVED AND SOME DON'T SOME DO THEY WANT TO BE INVOLVED? BUT THEY DON'T HAVE. WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH PRODUCT. THAT APPEALS TO THEM IN NEW ORLEANS. A NUMBER OF THEM SAID THEY'RE LOOKING FOR IS NOT NECESSARILY A SMALLER. BUT THEY CONDENSE SPACE LUST, MAINTENANCE , SOMETHING TURNKEY. THEN YOU GO TO FLORIDA. THEY WANTED, UM PERHAPS FACE TWO GRANDKIDS TO VISIT BUT WALKABLE CLOSE TO AMENITIES. I DON'T HAVE TO DRAW ARE YOU LOOKING AT THIS AS MORE OF AN EMPTY NESTER OR A QUESTION ? SO FOR A YOUNG PROFESSIONALS, THE OTHER SIDE, THE OTHER SIDE OF THE COMMENT WAS, WE WISH OUR KIDS COULD COME NOT JUST THAT THING COULD COME BACK THAT THERE WAS A PRODUCT BE INTERESTED, BUT THERE WAS AN ENVIRONMENT THEY WANTED. WHICH IS DIFFERENT. ONE OF THE INTERESTING THINGS IS THAT WE KEEP SEEING FROM ALL THIS STUFF. STUDIES NATIONALLY IS THESE VERY WALKABLE. PUBLIC SPACE AMENITY RETAIL. 
          DEVELOPMENT WHEN DONE WELL ARE EXTREMELY POPULAR WITH THE YOUNG PROFESSIONALS AND THE OVER AND WE DON'T EXCLUDE EITHER. UM THEY REALLY DON'T COME WITH A LOT OF KIDS BECAUSE PRICE POINTS IF WE DO WE FOLLOW STANDARDS IN HERE. THE DEVELOPED PRIZES WILL BE SUCH THAT YOU WON'T GET ENOUGH 
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SPACE. THE RIGHT PRICE POINT TO BRING A LOT OF KIDS WITH YOU. IT WILL BE FOR YOUNG PROFESSIONALS THAT WANT TO BE IN THERE OR IT WILL BE SOMEONE WHO LIVES IN NEW ALBANY THAT HAS A LOT OF QUITTING OUR HOME AND ARE WILLING TO MOVE SO SORRY. I HAVE ANOTHER I JUST I LOVE YOU'RE LIKE SPEAKING MY LANGUAGE RIGHT NOW, LIKE I TOTALLY APPRECIATE THE NEED FOR HEADS AND BEDS TO GO TO RESTAURANTS AND FOR THOSE HEADS TO BE YUPPIES AND PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT GOING TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE AN INFLUX OF KIDS TO THE SCHOOLS AND VERY, VERY FOCUSED ON THAT. UM SO I LOVE THE CONCEPTS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. RIGHT NOW. MY DO HAVE AN ISSUE THAT I'M CONCERNED READING THESE STANDARDS. I DON'T SEE THAT LANGUAGE INCORPORATED IN THE WORDS WRITTEN WITHIN THE STANDARDS. SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT COULD GO IN THERE. BUT IF WE HAD A LOAD FACTOR, UM, TARGET RIGHT FOR THE PROPERTY. UM, I KNOW WE TALKED AT PLANNING COMMISSION ABOUT SOME CONCEPTS THAT ARE NOT NOT AVAILABLE, BUT I JUST I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE'RE GIVING SOMEBODY I USED TO SAY, I'M PLANNING COMMISSION AND YOU KNOW, I SAT IN THIS CHAIR AND I WANT TO KNOW THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WHAT WE WANT AND WHAT WE'RE CREATING BY THE STANDARDS, ACTUALLY, COUNCIL MEMBER DIRT POINT ABOUT THE SCHOOL STUDY, I THINK MAYBE WE KNOW WE'RE TRYING TO GET TO BUT YOU BOTH MADE GREAT POINTS TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT'S WRITTEN? YES YES. 
          APPRECIATE. YOU KNOW WHETHER IT'S SIX OR FIVE. I JUST DON'T WANT TO BE IN A POSITION WHERE IT BECOMES. OVER OVER DANCE AND I THINK IN THE CONCEPTUAL DRAWING IN THE LOWER SECTION, YOU HAD AN ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY. WELL, THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY MEAN THAT THE DEVELOPER IS GOING TO COME IN AND PUT IN ASSISTED LIVING CENTER THERE. THAT COULD BECOME ALL HOUSING. IN THAT INCREASES. THE NUMBERS OF PEOPLE CLEARLY ASSISTED LIVING, WHICH NOBODY IN NONE THAT I KNOW OF GOING TO SCHOOLS SO CLEARLY WHEN WE SET A STANDARD, IT'S X AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS GOING TO SIT HERE AND SAY, WELL, I CAME IN WITH EXPERT ACRE AND, WELL, LOOK AT ALL THE ACRES. THAT'S A LOT OF ACREAGE DOWN BELOW THE CREEK. CAREFUL. I DON'T WANT TO BE CHEERFUL THROUGH BUT DOESN'T THE SENIORS LIVE? DOESN'T THE SENIOR LIVING FACILITY THOUGH SYNTHETIC COMMERCIAL BUILDING COMMERCIAL, AND SO, THEREFORE THE RATIO OF RESIDENTIAL WOOD? IF WE TOOK THAT OFF, THEN WE JUST HAVE TO PUT MORE COMMERCIAL. SOMEWHERE ELSE TAKING AWAY FROM IT DOESN'T AFFECT THE RESIDENTIAL THERE 200 PER SQUARE SQUARE FEET, AND IT'S DIFFICULT TO GET A CONCEPT OF AGAIN. HOW MANY SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL SPACE IS GOING TO BE NECESSARY WITH THESE BUILDINGS, RESTAURANTS AND THOSE SPACES RELATIVE TO THAT, RIGHT? I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY SQUARE PAINTING ASSISTED LIVING SO MANY TAKES UP. BUT IF WE HAD SIX UNITS PER ACRE IN 240 UNITS. THAT'S 48,000 SQUARE FEET. THERE'S A LOT OF SQUARE FOOTAGE IN ASSISTED LIVING BUILDING. THAT'S NOT GOING TO LEAVE A LOT. UP ON THE OTHER PART FOR COMMERCIAL SPACE . THAT'S WHERE I WANT TO BE VERY SENSITIVE TO THAT ASPECT OF IT, BECAUSE THAT'S NOT THERE. THEN WHAT DOES THAT DO? 12. THE WHOLS TOGETHER. IS IT DIFFICULT THING. I'M NOT DISMISSING THAT. BUT IT FALLS ON US. AND IT ALSO FALLS ON US LATER ON. WHEN THESE THINGS COME FORWARD, WE DON'T WANT TO GET WHERE WE WERE LAST TIME IN THE DEVELOPMENT COMES IN, AND THERE'S ALL THIS EMPTY AMBIGUITY. ABOUT WHAT THE INTENT OF THE OF THE STANDARDS ARE. I THINK THIS BUT HOPEFULLY IF THE ASSISTED LIVING WORD NOT PROPOSED THE DENSITY NUMBER AND THAT COMMERCIAL PRESIDENTIAL RATIO WOULD HELP. LIVING LIKE THE NUMBER OF THE IMPACTS THE NEGATIVE ACCESS TO IMPORTANT TO DEVELOP OPPOSITION. RESIDENTIAL IT WOULD BE LIMITED IN SCALE. THING IT'S HELPED. LAST WEEK. 
          ALL THESE THESE ARE GREAT QUESTIONS. UM IS ABLE TO FOCUS AND TRY TO TEST THINGS AND WE GOT THE SIXTH ONE. USE AN EGG. REALLY? BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE RETAIL WORK OFF CENTRAL COLLEGE AND 605 IN A PLACE IT'S STILL BE DYING. DYNAMIC AND VIBRANT WATER. UM SO THAT'S WHAT WE GOT. IT WAS 68 NUMBER, AND JOE WAS LIKE 676, BUT THAT WAS KIND OF THE NUMBER THAT WE THOUGHT WORKED ON THIS SIDE. BUT IT'S A GOOD POINT. UM YOU CAN HAVE SOME CONVERSATIONS, BUT WE WERE TRYING TO LINK THE COMMERCIAL SPIRIT FOOTAGE IN A RESIDENTIAL SO COMMERCIAL WOULD 
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HELP CONTROL AND CONSTRAIN TOO MUCH RESIDENTIAL COMMERCIAL IF YOU WANT TO ADD RIGHT TO POINT OUT. YOU HAVE A RATIO BASICALLY TOGETHER, RIGHT? RIGHT. EXACTLY WHEN WE BACK BEFORE PULTE OR CON EVER CAME TO NEW ALBANY. WE WERE BASICALLY HAVE ONE UNIT TO THE VEHICLE. UM AND WHEN WE WERE. 
          PRESENTED WITH THIS OPPORTUNITY. WE SAID, HOW DO WE MAKE THIS WORK BECAUSE ONE UNIT TO THE ACRE ON AN EMPTY NESTER RESIDENTIAL PRODUCT WAS NOT GOING TO WORK FINANCIALLY. SO STAFF GOT TOGETHER. WE WORKED THROUGH IT AND WE CAME UP WITH THIS THREE UNIT TO THE ACRE DENSITY AND BASICALLY IT WAS A MATHEMATICAL AND FINANCIAL EXERCISE. AND NOW THAT'S BECOME IT'S BECOME ACCEPTED, AND PEOPLE ARE COMFORTABLE WITH IT, AND IT'S ACTUALLY WORKING VERY WELL FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. WE'RE KIND OF IN THE SAME SITUATION WITH THIS. THIS IS THIS IS SOMETHING NEW, AND IT'S REQUIRED SOME OUT OF THE BOX THINKING THIS IS THE VERY FIRST TIME THAT WE'VE EVER APPLIED A COMMERCIAL. RATIO OF COMPOSURE, A COMMERCIAL COMPONENT. TIED IT WITH TIED IT TO THE RESIDENTIAL NUMBER OF UNITS. SO IF YOU THINK YOU THINK ABOUT A 2000 SQUARE FOOT UNIT HYPOTHETICALLY DESIGNED IN A WAY THAT IT CAN, IT'S GOING TO BE LESS ATTRACTIVE TO STUDENTS. OUR FAMILIES WITH STUDENTS YOU COULD WIND UP WITH BASICALLY PRETTY CLOSE TO A 1 TO 1 RATIO COMMERCIAL SQUARE FOOTAGE TO RESIDENTIAL SQUARE FOOTAGE. THAT THAT RATIO WILL CHANGE OVER TIME, DEPENDING ON THE TYPE OF UNIT YOU PUT IN SOME LARGER THAN UNIT. THE MORE DIFFICULT IT IS TO MAINTAIN THE NUMBER OF SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL BECAUSE IT'S 200 SQUARE FEET PER RESIDENTIAL UNIT. SO I THINK IT'S IN. IT'S IN OUR BEST INTERESTS AS A COMMUNITY TO HAVE LARGER NUMBER OF RESIDENTIAL UNITS, SMALLER FOOTPRINT. THAT IS GOING TO ATTRACT FAMILIES WITH FEWER STUDENTS, WHICH HELPS THEM HELPS THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. WE HAVE A REQUIREMENT IN THE CODE. FOR A SCHOOL IMPACT STUDY TO BE PERFORMED THAT'S ALREADY IN THERE, SO IT'S NOT SPECIFICALLY REFERENCED IN THAT BECAUSE IT'S A DIFFERENT DIFFERENT SECTIONS OF THE CODE. BUT I AGREE THAT NEEDS THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. AND I THINK IF YOU WOULD APPROVE THE STANDARDS AT SOME POINT AS A DEVELOPER, COMES FORWARD THE DIFFERENT STAGES THAT CHRIS OUTLINED THINK IT WOULD BE VERY IMPORTANT TO EMPHASIZE OR PLACE SPECIAL ATTENTION TO THE SIZE OF THE UNITS. THE NUMBER OF THE UNITS HOW THAT RELATES TO THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. YOU KNOW , WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO HAVE ASSISTED LIVING COMPLEX ON THERE IF WE HAD ADDITIONAL COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT OFFICE SPACE. FANTASTIC THAT'S EVEN BETTER. THAT'S WHY WE SET THAT 201 AS A MINIMUM STANDARD, NOT A MAXIMUM STAND 100 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL SPACE DWELLING UNIT IF WE CAN GET MORE THAT'S GREAT , BUT WE DON'T WANT TO OVERWHELM THE AREA WITH TRAFFIC EITHER. SO THIS IS A THIS IS A REALLY FINALLY TUNED. SITUATION THAT WE HAVE TO CREATE HERE. WE DON'T WANT TO OVERWHELM IT. IT NEEDS TO HAVE ENOUGH ACTIVITY TO SUPPORT THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT THAT WE WANT TO SEE THERE. IF YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH BUSINESS, UM BUSINESS TRAFFIC IN THE EVENING BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH RESIDENTIAL. THEIR BUSINESSES AREN'T GOING TO FLOURISH IF YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH DAYTIME TRAFFIC BECAUSE THERE'S NOT ENOUGH COMMERCIAL TO SUPPORT THE RETAIL. THE BUSINESS IS NOT GOING TO WORK WE HAVE A IS SIGNIFICANT, AS IS THE VILLAGE CENTER HAS BECOME. WE STILL HAVE A VACANT STOREFRONT THERE THAT WE'VE HAD FOR YEARS AND HAVE HAD A DIFFICULT TIME FILLING. SO WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T WANT THIS TO BE A FAILURE. WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE RIGHT NEXT. BASED ON THE EXPERTS OPINIONS TO MAKE THIS WORK. THE LAST THING WE WANT IS A BUNCH OF VACANT STOREFRONTS THAT DON'T DON'T DO WHAT WE WANT, AND HIS ROOFTOP CALCULATIONS, HEADS BEDS TO MAKE THIS ALL WORK. ARE YOU CALCULATING ALSO IN THAT'S GOING TO BE A DESTINATION POINT FOR OTHERS THAT LIVE IN NEW ALBANY. THE LINKS ALL THE APARTMENTS THAT ARE FURTHER WEST ON CENTRAL COLLEGE. THERE'S A LARGE COMMUNITY THAT'S EXPANDING GREATLY OUT NORTH OF HARLEM ROAD. CENTRAL COLLEGE. THERE'S SO MUCH GOING ON OUT THERE THAT'S GOING TO BE ATTRACTED TO BE PULLED IN TO THAT SITE FOR RESTAURANT, DINING ENTERTAINMENT . I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU NEED AS MANY BEDS AND HEADS WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S AROUND IT THAT WILL COME TO SO IT'S A GREAT POINT. AND YES, WE ARE THINKING ABOUT THAT. IT'S A FACTOR. UH I'M NOT SAYING ALL PEOPLE GONNA COME THERE, BUT THE HOME IS DEFINITELY WITHDRAW. SOME OF THAT OTHER HOPE IS, WE REALLY DO WANT TO PLUG INTO THE NEW ALBANY NEIGHBORHOODS WITH THE SUGAR RUN TRAIL SYSTEM, BUT REALLY, YOU KNOW, MAKES THIS A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE GOT BIKING, YOU KNOW 
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FAMILIES RIGHT THROUGH PLAYING THE GREEN. BUT DO YOU WANT TO GO BACK TO? WE ARE ALSO TRYING TO BALANCE CREATING SOME MORE OF THIS PRODUCT THAT WE HEARD DURING THE ENGAGEMENT ALBANY THAT WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH. IT'S A PART OF THIS IS RESPONDING TO THAT NEED AS WELL AS HOW WE CAN MAKE SOME COMMERCIAL RETAIL WORK ON THE SITE, SO THAT THAT BALANCE TO IT REMINDS ME OF WHEN WE DID THE MARKET IN MAINE APARTMENTS RIGHT BECAUSE EVERYBODY WAS SCARED TO DEATH OF THE WORD APARTMENTS. AND EVERYBODY THAT WAS COMING IN HERE TALKING ABOUT DEVELOPING. 
          IT WAS SAYING THAT IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE DESPERATELY NEEDED FOR EXACTLY THE SAME AUDIENCE, THE YOUNG PROFESSIONALS AND THE EMPTY NESTERS AND I THINK HISTORY HAS SHOWN US THAT THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT'S THERE. IT'S HAD ALMOST NO IMPACT ON THE SCHOOLS. IT'S BECOME YOUNG PROFESSIONALS AND EMPTY NESTERS, AND THAT DENSITY HAS HELPED US TO GET FOX AND THE SNOW AND SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS BACK IN THE CITY CENTER. SO IT'S ALL SORT OF A PUZZLE THAT WE HAVE TO AS AS JOE WAS SAYING, A VERY FINELY TUNED BALANCING ACT THAT WE HAVE TO EITHER BE WILLING TO DO OR OR NOT AT SOME LEVEL RIGHT TOMORROW . AT THIS POINT, I LIVE ABOUT A QUARTER MILE FROM THE YEAR WHEN I MOVED IN. THE APARTMENTS WEREN'T HERE. OBVIOUSLY ROCHON WASN'T HERE. THE ROUNDABOUT WASN'T HERE. I NEVER WALKED UP JUST CITY CENTER BECAUSE IT WASN'T A WHOLE LOT TO GO TO STARBUCKS, AND I DIDN'T COME UP. UM SINCE THE APARTMENT'S BEEN BUILT, MY ONLY WALK COMES UP HERE AROUND ROSE, RUN STOPPING BUSINESSES. I'VE GOT A BUSINESS ACROSS THE STREET. UM MY BUSINESS WOULDN'T BE THERE IF IT WASN'T FOR THE APARTMENTS WERE STILL ON THE RAZOR'S EDGE OF SUSTAINING AND I STILL HAVE QUESTIONS THAT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT UP THERE IS GOING TO SUSTAIN BUSINESSES, ESPECIALLY TERRIBLE REAL ESTATE AGENT CHRIS GREAT DESIGNER. YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? WE'RE TAKING THESE OFF THE MAIN ROAD. 
          NOBODY'S GOING TO KNOW THESE BUSINESSES ARE LIKE, STICK TO YOUR DAY JOB. THAT'S WHY HE WANTS THE HYPE. YEAH YOU KNOW, I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT BECAUSE WE DO ARE GONNA HAVE TO GROW IN THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY. AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE INTENTION SHOULD BE IS THIS IS A HUB NOT JUST FOR THE FOLKS THAT LIVE IN THIS, BUT EVERYWHERE UP THERE. SO I DO THINK YOU NEED A LEVEL OF DENSITY TO ACHIEVE THAT , AND I DO THINK YOU KNOW, SPEAKING PERSONALLY, YOU KNOW, WITH THE APARTMENTS IN MY BACKYARD, ESSENTIALLY UM I ENJOYED YOU KNOW THE DENSITY AND THE AMENITIES THAT IT BRINGS. AND I'M NOT NOTICED, YOU KNOW, INCREASED TRAFFIC CRIME. AND YOU KNOW, THIS ISN'T THE EXACT SAME THING IS WHAT WE HAVE HERE, BUT I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE LEERY AND SKEPTICAL AND UM ULTIMATELY, I DO THINK IT'S BEEN A SUCCESS NOW. I DON'T WANT IT TO RIVAL WHAT WE'RE DOING UP THERE WITH THE CITY CENTER, AND THAT WAS MY MAIN CONCERN. THE FIRST TIME THIS CAME FORWARD, AND I THINK THAT FIRST VERSION IT WAS BIGGER THAN CITY CENTER AND MARKET CENTER. SO I DON'T DISAGREE WITH MIKE ON THE HEIGHT. I DON'T THINK BUILDING SHOULD BE BIGGER THAN THEY ARE DOWN HERE. SO IF WE DO A LITTLE BIT MORE INVESTIGATION THERE, UM I THINK ONE OF THE REAL CONCERNS FOLKS HAVE ESPECIALLY WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING TONIGHT SPECIFICALLY. IS YOU KNOW, WE'RE PUTTING THESE STANDARDS IN AND LET'S SAY A DEVELOPER COMES ALONG AND FOR THE RECORD FOR COMPLETE TRANSPARENCY. HAVE YOU WORKED WITH ANY DEVELOPERS? DESIGNING THESE RENDERINGS OR WITH THE STANDARDS THAT YOU COME UP WITH, TOOK PIECES FROM, UM THE ORIGINAL SUBMIT. START STANDING PIECES FROM STEINER. TEST WHAT WORKS? WE HAVE THINGS WE DON'T LIKE. TOUCH ON SOME OF THEM. OKAY AND WE SAID ALL RIGHT, WELL, HOW DO WE REARRANGE THIS? WHAT WE THINK YOU NEED TO DO THAT MAKE SOMETHING THAT ACTUALLY WORKS THERE. OKAY? BUT THIS IS DONE FOR ANYBODY. BUT YOU OKAY, SO I THINK A LOT OF CONCERN IS OKAY. WE COME ALONG. 
          WE BEAT THESE UP. WE KIND OF SAY , OKAY, THESE ARE THE THESE ARE THE STANDARDS FOR A DEVELOPER TO COME AND RUNWAY. AND WHOEVER THAT DEVELOPMENT MAYBE. AND LET'S SAY OKAY, THE TRAFFIC COMES BACK IN. YOU KNOW WHAT IT REALLY IS GOING TO IMPACT THAT INTERSECTION AND WE'RE NOT SURE HOW WE'RE GOING TO MITIGATE IT. OR COMES IN THE SCHOOLS. YOU KNOW WE'RE GOING TO ADD 250 STUDENTS AND WE'RE NOT PREPARED TO DO THAT. WHAT LEVERS DO WE HAVE? ONCE BECAUSE OF DEVELOPMENTS SAY, HEY, I CHECKED ALL THE BOXES. THIS MEETS ALL THE STANDARDS. UM WHAT LEVERAGE DO WE HAVE TO EITHER KICK IT BACK OR PULL BACK AND SAY, HEY, WE NEED TO REDO THIS. AND BUT NOW I HAVE SIX UNITS PER ACRE. YOU KNOW, I'M MEETING THE CRITERIA. SO THAT MIGHT NOT BE A 
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CRYSTALLINE QUESTION. I SHOULD POINT SHOULD WE WRITE THOSE STANDARDS IN NOW, OR DO WE HAVE LOVERS THAT WE CAN PULL LATER TO SAY? I MEAN, HAVING A SCHOOL IMPACT STUDY IS GREAT. I KNOW WE HAVE THAT FOR ALL OF OUR PLANNED DEVELOPMENTS. BUT CAN WE HAVE SOMETHING? A CEILING NOW? SO WE'RE BEING PROACTIVE AND NOT REACTIVE. THEN CAN YOU RESPOND TO THAT? WHAT ARE WE LEGALLY ABLE TO DO AND NOTHING? WELL EXCUSE ME IF THE STANDARDS ARE SET, AND THEY MEET THE STANDARDS, AND THEY DON'T HAVE ANY REASON TO NEED A VARIANCE ANYTHING ON THOSE LINES? THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT YOU CAN DO. TO STOP THE DEVELOPMENT FROM COMING BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE'RE ONLY ASKING HIM TO DO AN IMPACT STUDY. WE'RE ONLY ASKING THEM TO DO A TRAFFIC STUDY. CLARIFY FACTOR DEPENDING WHAT THAT STUDY SAYS, BUT IT'S STILL GONNA BE A TOUGH SELL AT THAT POINT. SHOOT IT DOWN. IF YOU DON'T EXPLAIN WHAT THAT MEANS, SO THERE SHOULD BE SOME FURTHER DISCUSSION. AND THEN JUST TO CLARIFY SCHOOL IMPACT STUDIES ARE REQUIRED TO BE SUBMITTED AS PART OF EVERY REZONING AND IN ADDITION TO SCHOOL IMPACT, SORRY, THERE'S A LOT OF FEEDBACK ON THEM. UH IN ADDITION TO SCHOOL IMPACT, THERE'S OTHER FACTORS THAT ARE BUILT INTO CODE THAT PLANNING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION BEFORE ADOPTING A REZONING APPLICATION. 
          THAT INCLUDES SCHOOL POPULATION TRAFFIC IMPACTS. UM. I'M PARAPHRASING HERE, BUT THE IMPACT ON ADJACENT LAND USES. I CAN'T THINK OF ANYTHING ON TOP OF MY HEAD. BUT THOSE ARE THINGS OVER CHOIR MINTS THAT ARE ALREADY BUILT INTO OUR CITY. COULDN'T SAY THEY HAVE TO BE SUBMITTED. SO WHAT I THINK I HEAR YOU SAYING IS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE THE RIGHT TO MAKE OUR DECISIONS BASED ON THAT INFORMATION. CORRECT THAT'S A UNIVERSAL, RIGHT. WE HAVE AS A COUNCIL TO SAY. WE'RE GOING TO REJECT THIS BECAUSE WE'VE GOTTEN OUR TRAFFIC STUDY AND WE IF THIS ISN'T CHANGED, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE COMFORTABLE WITH IT. YOU SAYING THAT'S DIFFERENT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THERE'S A VARIETY OF FACTORS NOW THERE'S NOT ONE FACTOR THAT IS ULTIMATELY GONNA DICTATE WHAT THAT IS, THOUGH, SO IT'S A IT'S A HOST OF THING. IT'S A MULTIPART TEST, SO YOU CAN'T JUST SAY SCHOOL STUDY IS GOING TO BE THE REASON WE KNOCK IT DOWN. THAT'S ONE FACTOR OF CONSIDERATION. TRAFFICS WENT BACK OR CONSIDERATION, SO IT'S A VARIETY OF THINGS THAT THE DEVELOPER IS GOING TO HAVE TO PUT FORWARD TO CONSIDER. BUT IT CAN'T JUST BE ONE FACTOR. THERE'S A HOST OF FACTORS THAT ARE CONSIDERED IN THAT PROCESS. 
          JUST AS REMINDER. I MEAN, THE REASON THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE STRATEGIC PLAN DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS CODE CHANGES. LEGAL REQUIREMENTS FOR DEVELOPMENT IS TO HELP DIRECT A LANDOWNER ON WHAT THINGS THE CITY WOULD EXPECT. IF THEY WANT TO DEVELOP IN THIS COMMUNITY WITHOUT HIGH LEVEL OF RESISTANCE, AND THESE ARE SORT OF TOOLS THAT WE HAVE IN OUR TOOL CHEST, SO TO SPEAK, TO GET THE DEVELOPMENT WHERE WE'D LIKE TO SEE IT, BUT ALSO WE CAN'T FORGET. AT THE END OF THE DAY. THE PROPERTY OWNER, WHOEVER THEY MAY BE ALSO HAS RIGHTS. AND IF WE DON'T PUT TOGETHER CLEAR STANDARDS THAT WE AGAIN CAN UTILIZE TO SHOW OUR INTENT AND DRIVE THAT DEVELOPMENT, THEN YOU KNOW, WE CAN EITHER GET SUED. OR THE DEVELOPER CAN PROCEED WITH THEIR DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE STANDARDS. SO THIS EXERCISE THAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH TO HAVE EACH OF THESE THINGS IN PLACE WAS TREATED PLAN DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS CODE CHANGES. IS TO HELP PROVIDE PROTECTION TO US ON WHAT FUTURE DEVELOPMENT MIGHT OCCUR, RIGHT? IT'S NOT A GUARANTEE YOU SET THE GUIDELINES AND YOU PUT IT OUT THERE FOR CONSIDERATION. THE DEVELOPER IS GOING TO TRY TO MEET THOSE GUIDELINES AND STANDARDS PRESENTED. PLANNING COMMISSION, AND THEN YOU'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS AND YOU KNOW YOU ACCEPT OR REJECT OR ACCEPT MODIFICATIONS AND LIKE YOU SAID, YOU KNOW, DEVELOPS IT OR IF YOU SAY NO. THEN THERE'S A POTENTIAL PURSUIT AFTER, BUT THAT'S WHY YOU WANT TO PUT STANDARDS IN THERE. TO PROVIDE GUIDANCE TO WORK THROUGH THAT PROCESS, AND I THINK HAVING SORRY, I JUST THINK HAVING STUDIES AVAILABLE IS NOT THE SAME THING AS HAVING STANDARDS AVAILABLE OR STANDARD SET AND I'LL BLEED. I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THE ORDINANCES SAY ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE IN THE SCHOOL STUDIES ON TOP OF MY HEAD. I HAVE TO HAVE A SCHOOL, THEY HAVE TO HAVE A SCHOOL STUDY. BUT THAT'S IT. YOU HAVE TO CONSIDER IT AND I THINK WE'RE HERE. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THESE THINGS. WE SHOULD MAKE IT VERY CLEAR TO THE DEVELOPER. AND YOU KNOW, I BELIEVE THE PREVIOUS PLAN WOULD HAVE PROBABLY PASSED MUSTER BASED ON THE YOU KNOW, DEPUTY THAT WAS A THAT WAS SUGGESTED. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT FUTURE PLANS ARE ALSO IN THAT. I'M SO SORRY TO CUT YOU OFF. THAT'S OKAY. THAT'S OKAY. I GUESS I'M STILL LIKE I I'VE ALWAYS ASSUMED THAT BY IMPLICATION IF WE HAVE A CODE SECTION THAT SAYS YOU MUST SUBMIT A SCHOOL IMPACT STUDY. THAT THAT MEANS THAT WE ARE ENTITLED TO SAY WE ARE UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THE SCHOOL IMPACT STUDY, AND EVERY DEVELOPER KNOWS THAT WE ARE ENTITLED TO SAY THAT AND USE THAT AS A BASIS FOR REJECTING IF THEY DON'T FIX THE SCHOOL IMPACT STUDY HERE, SO MAYBE THAT'S YOU KNOW, THAT'S ONE FACTOR FOR CONSIDERATION. I CAN'T SEE HOW THAT WOULD BE A SURPRISE. ON THE OTHER HAND, IF WE SIT HERE TODAY AND SAY WELL, PROVIDED YOU ONLY PUT 10 NEW KIDS IN THE SCHOOLS. WHAT IMPACT STUDY IS GOING TO BE 
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THE ONE THAT GETS TO BE THE RIGHT ONE ON THAT? THAT'S WHERE I GET CONCERNED. IF WE START SPELLING THIS OUT TO CAREFULLY I MEAN, WHAT SCHOOL IMPACT STUDY? DO WE IS THE LEGITIMATE ONE. ARE WE GOING TO SAY? WELL YOU GO DO ONE AND WE'LL GO DO ONE, AND WE'LL DO A THIRD ONE AND WE'LL SEE WHERE WE COME OUT. HOW FAR DO YOU TAKE THIS IN TERMS OF DETAIL. I MEAN, WE HAVE TO GO WITH THE DETAIL. THIS COMES BACK TO BALANCE. YOU CAN RESPOND AFTER I GET DONE HERE. UM WE HAD A SCHOOL IMPACT NUMBER FROM THE DEVELOPER THE LAST TIME THAT I THINK PEOPLE FELT PRETTY GOOD ABOUT BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF OTHER THINGS DID NOT WELL, LET ME LET ME REPHRASE THAT. I THINK AS THE DEVELOPER THAT THERE WERE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE ACCURACY OF THE DEVELOPERS NUMBERS, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE DEVELOPERS NUMBERS AND COMPARE THAT TO WHAT AH, WHAT WE COULD DEMONSTRATE FROM OTHER AREAS OF CENTRAL OHIO. THOSE NUMBERS WERE PRETTY ACCURATE, RIGHT? SO IF YOU ASSUME THE ACCURACY OF THOSE NUMBERS, LET'S START. LET'S USE THAT AS A STARTING POINT. I THINK MOST PEOPLE WOULD FEEL PRETTY COMFORTABLE THAT WITH ALL OF THAT DENSITY, YOU'RE GETTING 60 . SOME STUDENTS. THAT'S THAT'S SIGNIFICANT. BUT THERE WAS A LOT NOT TO LIKE ABOUT THAT DEVELOPMENT. FROM THE FROM THE MASSIVE STRUCTURE ON THE CORNER OF CENTRAL COLLEGE IN 605 TO A NUMBER OF OTHER THINGS, SO I AGREE. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A SCHOOL IMPACT NUMBER. THAT IS WITHIN THE STANDARDS THAT THAT WE WANT THAT THAT ARE NOT GOING TO OVERWHELM THE SCHOOL. BUT I THINK WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL THAT WE IN DOING THAT THAT WE DON'T CREATE A MONSTER THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH THEM ALL OF THE OTHER AESTHETICS AND THEN YOU KNOW. WHAT DO WE GIVE UP TO GET THAT NUMBER? IS IT A MONOLITHIC BUILDING ON THE CORNER? OR IS IT SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE MORE IN LINE WITH THE VILLAGE SCALE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE AND MAINTAIN, ISN'T IT JUST ANOTHER PIECE OF A PUZZLE LIKE IT'S ANOTHER. IT'S ANOTHER FACTOR FOR THEM TO HAVE TO IMAGINE. IT'S JUST AS IMPORTANT AS THE BUILDING, HEIGHT AND COMMERCIAL OFFSET RIGHT. I THINK ADRIAN HAD SOMETHING TO TRY TO JUST WANTED TO ADD IT. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT JUST TO KEEP IN MIND BACK FROM A PROCEDURAL OR PROCESS STANDPOINT, THE 13TH STANDARDS THAT WERE JUST YOU KNOW, OUTLINED AS PART OF THIS PRESENTATION, IF YOU YOU KNOW, TIED THAT BACK TO YOUR AGENDA THAT WOULD BE UNDER THE RESOLUTION BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT IS ADOPTING THE STRATEGIC PLAN. AND IF YOU WENT TO THE RESIDENTIAL OR THE EMPLOYMENT CENTER. PARDON ME ANY OTHER LAND USE DISTRICT IN THE STRATEGIC PLAN. THIS IS THE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT STANDARD THAT YOU WOULD SEE IN TERMS OF PROVIDING GUIDANCE FOR WHAT THE CITY WANTS TO DO IN THE FUTURE. THAT IS NOT TO BE UM, CONFUSED WITH CODE SECTION, SO THE CODE SECTIONS ARE THE SUBJECT OF THE ORDINANCE PART OF THIS CHAPTER, AND IF YOU WENT THROUGH ALL THE BACK UP TO THE CODE SECTION, YOU WOULD SEE AMENDMENTS TO THE CHAPTER OF THE CODE THAT TALKS ABOUT THE REZONING PROCESS, THE PART OF THE CODE THAT TALKS ABOUT THE REZONING PROCESS ALREADY HAS THAT A SCHOOL IMPACT STATEMENT AS REQUIRED THAT IS TIED TO THE REZONING PROCESS BECAUSE YOU HAVE MORE INFORMATION AT THAT POINT, IN ORDER TO ACTUALLY DO THAT, TOWARDS TYPE OF ANALYSIS THAT PLANNING COMMISSION IN CITY COUNCIL WOULD CONSIDER SO IT DOESN'T. WE'RE NOT CHANGING THAT IT'S STILL A FACTOR CONSIDERATION. THERE'S ALSO A PART OF THAT ABOUT A TRAFFIC STUDY THAT WOULD STILL ALSO APPLY AT THE REZONING LEVELS. SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT KIND OF TWO DIFFERENT AN UMBRELLA TYPE STANDARD THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT SO FAR TONIGHT. NOT NECESSARILY THE IN THE WEEDS CODE LANGUAGE, BUT THOSE THINGS ARE INTENDED TO PROVIDE THAT. GUIDANCE AND THEN ALSO THAT CLARITY OF WHAT YOU'VE CHALLENGED GONNA DO AS A DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL WORKS ITS WAY THROUGH ALL THOSE MULTIPLE STEPS IN THE PROCESS LIKE CHRIS OUTLINE. I UNDERSTAND THAT IN TERMS OF THE ORDINANCE VERSUS THE RESOLUTION AND SOMEBODY CORRECT ME. BUT MY UNDERSTANDING WAS IN THE WAY THIS RESOLUTION WAS PUT TOGETHER TO PRESENT IT. IT WOULD BECOME A PART OF THOSE OF THE CULTURE. YEAH, SO IT WOULD BE ADDED TO CODE. IT SAYS THE EXACT STRATEGIC THANKS FOR THE STRATEGIC PLAN. IT'S GOING TO BE ADDED TO THE STREETS RESOLUTION, BUT IT'S STILL A REFERENCE REFERENCE POINT. THIS IS GOING TO BE THE REFERENCE THAT'S CORRECT CODE, BUT IT WILL BE PART OF THE STRATEGIC YEAH, CORRECT. AND THESE STANDARDS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AND WE CAN AGAIN IT'S ANOTHER TOOL IN OUR TOOLBOX TO HELP GUIDE THE DEVELOPMENT. UNDERSTAND HERE'S OUR EXPECTATIONS AND AGAIN DOESN'T MAKE THE OTHER REQUIREMENTS GO AWAY AND THE OTHER PROCESSES DON'T GO AWAY. 
          AND THE OTHER EXPECTATIONS. DON'T GO AWAY. THIS IS IN ADDITION, AN ADDENDUM TO THAT IF 
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YOU WILL WRITE THE TRAFFIC STUDY THE STUDENT IMPACT STUDY ALL THOSE THINGS. THAT WAS THE POINT I WAS TRYING TO MAKE. THEY'RE ALL STILL THERE. THERE ARE STILL THERE RIGHT AND WE COULD GET SUED BY A DEVELOPER BECAUSE THEY DON'T LIKE THE FACT THAT WE DON'T LIKE THERE. THE RESULTS OF THEIR YOU KNOW, TRAFFIC STUDY, BUT WE STILL HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO THAT, AND THAT'S A RISK WE TAKE WITH EVERY SINGLE DEVELOPMENT. WE DO. SO ALL RIGHT, SO I KNOW WE'VE WE'VE SLIGHTLY INTERRUPTED THE PRESENTATION BEFORE GROUP TONIGHT. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE YOU NEEDED TO PRESENT ON THIS BEFORE WE DO. YEAH, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS. MAYBE MAYBE YOU CAN HELP ME CLICK THROUGH HERE. I'LL BE VERY BRIEF. THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING SO PATIENT, SO WE'VE KIND OF HINTED AT A LOT OF THIS, BUT JUST TO SHOW YOU GUYS THIS GRAPHIC WHEN WE DID GO THROUGH AND ASSIGN THE HEIGHTS FOR THE RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES. WE DIDN'T WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WEREN'T PROPOSING SOMETHING THAT WAS KIND OF OUTLANDISH OR HADN'T BEEN DONE IN THE CITY BEFORE. SO WE DID DO A MAXIMUM PERMITTED BUILDING HEIGHT FOR THE RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISIONS IN NEW ALBANY. IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO SEE FROM ME FROM HERE, SO I HOPE YOU GUYS CAN SEE IT, BUT EVERYTHING IN ORANGE. THEIR ZONING TEXT FOR THOSE AREAS PERMITS A MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT FOR RESIDENTIAL HOUSES OF UP TO 45 FT. AGAIN WE'RE ONLY PROPOSING TO GO UP TO 40 FT. 
          HERE ON THE PERMIT PARAMETER YELLOW SHOWS 35 FT ARE THOSE ARE MOSTLY IN OUR RESTRICTED 87 DIVISIONS. THAT'S MAINLY THE REASON FOR THAT IS MAINLY BECAUSE OF THE MASSING IN THE FORM OF THE ARCHITECTURE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE THERE. AND THEN WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS SEVERAL TIMES TONIGHT, BUT WE DO HAVE A 49 FT BUILDING HEIGHT WITH THE APARTMENT THAT IS MEASURED UP TO THE RIDGE OF THE ROOF FINDS I JUST WANTED TO. WE DID THINK ABOUT THAT WE DID. WE DID. LOOK AT THE DATA. WE LOOKED AT WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE CITY SO FAR, SIR, WOULD YOU MIND CLICKING FORWARD FORMING DISRUPT BACK? SO WE'VE AGAIN I WILL BE VERY BRIEF WITH THIS. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS THROUGHOUT THE PRESENTATION, BUT WE DO HAVE PROPOSED CODED CODE UPDATES. 
          THAT KIND OF TAKE WHAT WE'VE PUT IN THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, SOME OF THEM AND MAKE SURE THAT OUR CODE ISN'T IN CONFLICT WITH THOSE STANDARDS, SO I BRIEFLY HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THOSE HERE SO THE FIRST ONE IS PRETTY EASY. CHAPTER 11 57. I CALL THIS THE ARAB SECTION OF CODE. THERE'S A MUCH FANCIER WORD FOR IT. THERE ARE PHRASES WORK THERE, BUT UM, IN ORDER TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS OR WHAT WE'VE HEARD THROUGH THE ADOPTION PROCESS BE ENGAGED IN ALBANY STRATEGIC PLAN. WE DID UPDATE THIS CODE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE ARAB HAS REVIEWED REVIEW AND RECOMMENDATION APPROVAL FOR A HAMLET FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN, WHICH I TALKED ABOUT EARLIER IN THE PRESENTATION. AND THE NEXT YEAR, I'LL TALK ABOUT A LITTLE BIT INTERCHANGEABLY. SO ONE THING THAT WE WANTED TO DO WAS ASSIGNED PARKLAND AND OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS FOR HIM WITH DEVELOPMENTS AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT WE LANDED ON PROVIDING 25% OPEN SPACE WITHIN HAMLET DEVELOPMENTS. OBVIOUSLY OUR CODE CITY CODE REALLY ONLY CONTEMPLATES TRADITIONAL SUBURBAN SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISION. UH TAKE DEVELOPMENT HERE IN NEW ALBANY. IT DOES NOT CONTEMPLATE ANYTHING OTHER THAN THAT, SO WE WANTED TO TAKE A LOOK AT UPDATING THAT. SO WHAT WE DID IS WE ABDEL IN THE CODE TO SPECIFICALLY SAY THAT HAMLETS AND HAMLETS ONLY ARE ALLOWED TO PROVIDE 25% PARKING AND OPEN SPACE DEVELOPMENT. WE HAD TO DO SOME CLEANUP, DIFFERENT CODE SECTIONS, SO WE MOVED ALL OF OUR APARTMENT AND OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS TO CHAPTER 11 65. 
          WHICH IS OUR GENERAL DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS THEY PREVIOUSLY EXISTED IN OUR SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS. I WON'T GO INTO SUPER DETAIL WHY WE DID THAT. BUT UH, WE KNOW IF NON TRADITIONAL SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT TIMES. WE MIGHT NOT ALWAYS GET A PLAT MAN. I WAS WHEN I WAS IN A SUBDIVISION, BUT WE ALWAYS WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT NO MATTER WHAT TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT, IT IS, ALWAYS TRIGGERS THE NEED TO PROVIDE PARKLAND IT OPEN SPACE. SO HE SWITCHED THAT. THE GENERAL DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS SO THAT IF DEVELOPMENT HAPPENS, WE GET PARKS AND OPEN SPACE. NOT ONLY ONE IN THERE'S A PLOT, SO IT ACTUALLY THAT'S PROBABLY ACTUALLY WHERE IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ALL ALONG TO WHAT WE REALIZED. THE LAST SECTION OF CODE THAT WE UPDATED. IT REALLY WASN'T A SUPER BIG UPDATE. IT WAS REALLY JUST A CLARIFICATION THAT WAS ADDED TO SECTION FIVE OF THE NEW ALBANY DESIGN GUIDANCE GUIDELINES AND REQUIREMENTS. WHICH IS SECTION FIVE OF THOSE RULES AND REGULATIONS FOR RESIDENTIAL OUTSIDE OF VILLAGE CENTER. SO IT REALLY JUST UPDATED THAT SECTION THERE ALREADY REQUIREMENTS FOR SINGLE FAMILY AND MULTI FAMILY DEVELOPMENT IN THAT EXISTING CODE SECTION. AS IT EXISTS TODAY . WE JUST CLARIFIED IN THERE THAT MULTI FAMILY REQUIREMENTS APPLY TO ANY NON. AH NON, UH, YOU KNOW, SINGLE FAMILY TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT THAT IS NOT ATTACHED. THAT MULTIPLE AMERICANS APPLY TO YOU THAT TYPE OF FILM AS WELL. SO IT REALLY WAS JUST A CLARIFICATION. IT REALLY WASN'T CHANGING ANY OF THE EXISTING RULES AT ALL. JUST A CLARIFICATIONS. INTENSE UM AND THEN QUICK QUESTION ON THE OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS. UH PROPOSED CODE CHANGE THE WAY I READ IT, 
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SAYS THE FOLLOWING OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS. IN RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS OF TWO ACRES OR MORE A MINIMUM OF 20% OF THE GROSS DEVELOPMENT LAND AREA SHALL BE COMMON SPACE. SO AS SINGLE LOT IS NOT A DEVELOPMENT RIGHT RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE THERE'S THERE STILL COULD BE LOTS FOR SALE IN THE ALBANY THERE ARE 2.5 ACRES. MHM YES, I'M ASSUMING THAT I CAN ASK THE OWNERS OF THAT NEW LOT THAT ARE BUILDING A HOUSE THAT DONATE 20% OF THEIR LAWN TO THE COMMUNITY. YEAH THAT'S NOT HOW IT'S WRITTEN. THAT'S NOT HOW IT'S WRITTEN TODAY. NOW. OKAY SO I'M NOT SURE THAT'S CLEAR THAT AGAIN. THIS HAPPENED AND DOUBLE CHECK. I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE SURE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MORE THAN ONE LOT. RIGHT GOTCHA. ONE WHAT? YOU COULD HAVE 20 ACRES. 
          KNOCK YOURSELF OUT. ASSEMBLE THAT KIND OF LAND. NICE PLACE. I BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE ACCOUNTED FOR THAT. BUT I'LL DOUBLE CHECK BEFORE THIS SECOND HEARING. NOT THAT I'M LOOKING TO BUILD A 20 ACRE LOT SURE. I HAVE ONE OTHER TOPIC. I DON'T THINK WE COVERED THAT. I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT HIGH DENSITY AND THAT IS PARKING. WE HAD ISSUES THAT MARKET IN MAINE. I KNOW AND AGAIN I GO BACK TO WINDSOR. YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES THAT CAN BE AN ISSUE. I'M VERY CONCERNED IF WE HAVE THIS VERY DEFINED AREA HERE WITH THE COMMON SORT OF PARKING THAT THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE MAY CHOOSE TO TAKE UP WHAT WE NEED FOR THE BUSINESSES BY PARKING OUTSIDE. AND I KNOW YOU CAN'T FORCE THEM NOT TO AND WE CAN DO SOME THINGS LIKE WE'VE DONE BEFORE WHERE IT'S LIMITED TIME PERIODS THAT YOU CAN PARK OR LIMITED AMOUNT OF TIME. BUT DO DOES OUR CODE REQUIRE OR DO WE WANT TO ADDRESS IN THIS IN THE STRATEGIC PLAN HERE? SOMETHING ABOUT THE RESIDENCES MUST HAVE PARKING AS PART OF THEIR RESIDENTS. SO. PART OF HAVING THE REQUIREMENT THAT THE DEVELOPER COMES IN SHOULD TALK ABOUT THIS. IT NEEDS TO BE EXCUSE ME. MASTER PLAY IN DEVELOPMENT. SO WHEN IT COMES IN, YOU NEED TO KNOW ALL THE PIECES AND PRETTY MUCH WHAT TO DO. UH, HAVING DEVELOPMENT BRINGING PARKING STUDY? STAFF VERY CAREFULLY ANALYZES BASED ON EXPERIENCE. IT SHOWS HOW THE PARK SPACES ARE ALLOTTED. BY USE AND BY THE RESIDENTS IS VERY IMPORTANT. AGAINST THIS BALANCE . YOU DON'T WANT TOO MUCH PARKING. BECAUSE WE WANT THE SITE PURELY WALKABLE AND MAIN STREETS. UM BUT WE ALSO DON'T HAVE ENOUGH. DON'T WANT TO END UP NOT HAVING ENOUGH. THAT THEN CAUSES MORE PROBLEMS, SO IT WILL BE A BALANCE AND THE PLAN IS TO PUSH THE DEVELOPER TO ALSO HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THAT BALANCE. BUT WHERE EXACTLY USES GO AND HELP BUILDINGS ARE IN ORDER. BUT DO RESIDENTS IS THAT THEY HERE IN NEW ALBANY OF RESIDENTS DOES NOT HAVE TO, PER SE HAVE A GARAGE OR PARKING RIGHT? I STOPPED ME, BUT I THINK, UH, THE CODE REQUIRES TO ON SITE PARKING SPACES FOR RESIDENTS SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE. TYPICALLY THAT'S COVERED WITH GARAGE, BUT IT COULD BE A DRIVEWAY SPACE OR I BELIEVE THAT IS THE CODE REQUIREMENT. I DON'T CARE IF THEY WANT TO PARK OUTSIDE ON THEIR DRIVEWAY. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE A BASE THAT'S NOT THE COMMON AREA PARKING THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE TAKING UP BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE ANYWHERE ELSE TO PARK AND SOMETIMES THERE IS SO AGAIN. THIS IS WHERE THERE'S SOME DISTINCTION, SO A SINGLE FAMILY LAW IS GOING TO BE DIFFERENT THAN MAYBE. UM YOU KNOW HOW A TOWN HALL MIGHT BE PLANTED OR SOLD, AND IT'S A LOT VS MAYBE AN APARTMENT AND SO THERE IS SOME. YOU KNOW, SOME EVALUATION THAT IS NEEDED. TO MAKE SURE AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE FINDING WITH EITHER. I THINK WHAT THE PLANNING COMMUNITY IS FINDING WITH MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT IN GENERAL, OR WE'RE FINDING IN THE VILLAGE CENTER. YOU REALLY NEED TO UNDERSTAND THOSE MIX OF USES NOT THEORETICALLY, LIKE IN REALITY AND BE ABLE TO DO THAT PARKING EVALUATION AT THAT TIME THAT SOMETHING IS PROPOSED. TO REALLY UNDERSTAND YOU CAN HAVE CODE AND YOU CAN HAVE REQUIREMENTS, BUT YOU NEED TO HAVE THAT ACTUAL MIX OF USES AND THAT KIND OF A FEASIBLE DEVELOPMENT PLAN TO EVALUATE SO I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE'RE FINDING. WE'RE COMING TO BELIEVE IN THE VILLAGE CENTER. EVEN YOU NEED THAT MORE DETAILED PARKING ANALYSIS DONE THAT STACK RECOMMEND, AND I THINK THAT THAT IS ALL. I READ THAT IN THE STANDARDS LIKE I SEE HOW YOU HAVE YOU GUYS HAVE CLEARLY SET OUT. THEY NEEDED TO SUBMIT A PARKING MODEL. AND THIS IS THE FLOW THAT WE WANTED TO SEE. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THE DEVELOPMENT MUST NOT HAVE DOESN'T THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE ACCESS PARKING, BUT I'M SURE THAT'S JUST NOT HAVING UNSIGHTLY PARKING GARAGE RIGHT UP WITH SOMETHING THAT JUST ISN'T ATTRACTIVE, PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY WHEN YOU START ADDING PARKING STRIP CENTER PARKING IS REALLY DISGUSTING. THESE STANDARDS. I THINK IT MAKES ME FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THAT ELEMENT. OKAY IT'S ANOTHER BALANCING TEST . YOU DON'T WANT TO PARK EVERY YOU KNOW, BUILD EVERYTHING FOR BLACK FRIDAY. PARKING LOT STANDARDS, BUT YOU DON'T WANT TO 
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NOT HAVE ENOUGH PARKING THERE. BUT YOU NEED TO KNOW WHAT THOSE USES ARE TO REALLY MAKE THAT DETERMINATION. MY ONLY CONCERN WAS. I KNOW ONE OF THE THINGS WE LEARNED WITH MARKET AND MEN. 
          AGAIN WAS WE HAD TREMENDOUS ISSUES WITH PEOPLE PARKING ON THE STREET UNTIL MARKETING MAIN STARTED REQUIRING THAT EVERY TENANT AS THEY SIGNED THEIR LEASE ALSO LISA PARKING SPOT AND THAT EASED IT UP QUITE A BIT, AND THAT'S WHAT MADE ME THINK ABOUT DO WE REQUIRE RESIDENTIAL TO HAVE A DEDICATED PLACE TO PARK THEIR CARDS? SO AND I, NONE OF THESE RENDERINGS THAT WE'VE SEEN AT ANY POINT OF HEAD ON STREET PARKING ON EITHER SIX OR FIVE OR CENTRAL COLLEGE, SO I DON'T KNOW. WE'LL BUILD THE SAME COMPLEXITIES THAT WE HAVE IN MARKETING MAIN. AND I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT RUNNING APARTMENTS WERE RUNNING A BUSINESS LIKE CASEY, BUT, UM IF YOU CAN'T PARK, A RESIDENTIAL UNIT. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO AT LEAST THEM. SO YOU KNOW, AS SORT OF REQUIREMENT, WE LOVE OUR CARS IN CENTRAL OHIO TO PARK THEM. TO YOUR POINT MAYOR, THE NEW ALBANY EXCHANGE WHEN THAT WAS ORIGINALLY DESIGNED, WAS DESIGNED FOR THE SECOND FLOOR TO BE EITHER. PRESIDENT YOUR RESIDENTIAL NO GARAGE. NO RESIDENTIAL. NOPE. SO MR CHRISTIAN. I'M SORRY WE INTERRUPTED YOU AGAIN. HAVE YOU BEEN ABLE? THAT'S OKAY THROUGH YOUR THIS IS THE LAST THING I HAVE. I PROMISE. I APOLOGIZE. I ACTUALLY THINK YOU'RE OKAY. 
          YOU'RE OKAY THAT YOU WERE FINISHED? AS YOU NOTICED IN YOUR LEGISLATIVE REPORT, WE DID TAKE THIS A COUPLE OF TIMES TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION. AND THEY DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE HAMLET FOCUS AREA PLAN, AS WELL AS THE PROPOSED CODE UPDATES. THERE WAS ONE SUGGESTION THAT YOU PROBABLY NOTICED IN YOUR LEGISLATIVE REPORT THAT DIDN'T MAKE IT THROUGH INTO THE MOTION. 
          IT WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION. ABOUT HER SUGGESTION TO CITY COUNCIL THAT YOU GUYS CONSIDER AND THERE WAS A LOT OF WORDS IN THERE. BUT THERE IS A SUGGESTION THAT YOU GUYS CONSIDER ADDING SOME KIND OF AID, RESTRUCTURED, FOCUS OR SOME OTHER METHOD TO ACHIEVE SOME SORT OF UNIT BALANCE. WITH ANY HAMLET. HOWEVER FOLLOWING THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, THE LOT OF DIRECTORS OPINION WAS THAT CITY COUNCIL LACK THE AUTHORITY TO REQUIRE SPECIFIC TARGETING HOUSING ARE PROVIDING HOUSING THAT REQUIRED THAT TARGETS A SPECIFIC DEMOGRAPHIC. THAT THAT'S REALLY THE DEVELOPERS AND FOR THEM TO PROPOSE AND ENFORCE . UM AND I'LL LET BEN FILM FILL IN ANY OTHER DETAILS THAT I'M MISSING HERE. UM ONE OF ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WAS WAS DEFINITELY A TOPIC OF DISCUSSION AND CONVERSATION. BUT IT DIDN'T MAKE IT DIDN'T MAKE IT THROUGH AN AGE AND INTO THE ACTUAL MOTION FOR APPROVAL. WAS SOMETHING THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN BROUGHT UP A COUPLE OF TIMES, WHICH WAS THE SIZE OF THE HAMLET . SO THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW BIG A HAMLET IN NEW ALBANY SHOULD BE. WHETHER IT SHOULD WHETHER OR NOT IT SHOULD BE LIMITED TO THE SITE, AS WE HAVE SHOWN HERE IN THIS FOCUS AREA PLAN, OR IF IT COULD GROW OVER TIME. SO AGAIN, AS I SAID, RECOMMEND THERE. THAT PORTION OF THE DISCUSSION DID NOT MAKE IT INTO THE RECOMMENDED MOTION, BUT WE DEFINITELY WANTED TO BRING IT TO COUNSEL'S ATTENTION AND BRINGING UP SOMETHING FOR YOU GUYS TO CONSIDER IN YOUR DISCUSSION. SO THE ORDINANCE DOES DEFINE A HAMLET. IN SEVERAL DIFFERENT OCCURRENCES TO SAY, MEANS THAT AREA TO FIND AS A HAMLET IN THE STRATEGIC PLAN. MM SO WE SHOULD PROBABLY DEFINE EXACTLY WHAT THE AREA IS IN THE STRATEGIC PLAN BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE CODE SAYS SO YEAH, WE DO NEED TO PUT A PUT A CIRCLE AROUND IT. MHM. SO WE COULD CERTAINLY LIKE REPLACING, JUST FOR EXAMPLE, WE COULD REPLACE THAT CIRCLE ON THE LAND USE MAP WITH THE MORE DEFINED SITE BOUNDARIES. YEAH TONIGHT PRESENTATION. THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING YOU GUYS CAN CONSIDERED. THANKFULLY WE HAVE SOME. WE HAVE SOME EASILY DESCRIBABLE BOUNDARIES LIKE CENTRAL COLLEGE AND SUGAR RUN. 
          NOW AND NOW THERE'S A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT YOU KNOW IT'S NEXT. IT'S NOT HARD TO DO. AND THAT CIRCLE WOULD BE HARD. WELL, YEAH, I WAS THINKING THAT SO MUCH CIRCLE AS THEY NEED TO. YOU NEED THE RECTANGULAR BOUNDARIES AND DEFINE AND THEN THEY CAN WORK WITHIN THAT, BUT I THINK THEY JUST DRAW A CIRCLE OR VAGUE AREAS. VERY GOOD BOXING THEM EXACTLY LIKE THAT. BOXING. 
          ALRIGHT? UM ANYTHING ELSE? FROM STAFF. BY ANYTHING, THE CITY MANAGERS ASKED TO HAVE THE FINAL COMMENT. SO CHRIS BE BEFORE YOU SIT DOWN. UM, I THINK THE THERE WAS A LOT OF STAFF DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT. AND I THINK YOU MADE A POINT ABOUT YOU MENTIONED THIS EARLIER. I JUST WANTED TO REVISIT THIS. I THINK THIS IS IMPORTANT. IF WE CAME DOWN FROM SIX UNITS OF THE ACRE. PROBABLY MAYBE AGAINST YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS. I THINK IF YOU HAD YOUR PREFERENCE, YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING IN WHAT? WHAT RANGE IN TERMS OF. SO PUT SIX YOU FEEL IS DOABLE BEFORE 
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DRIVE UP THE PRICE POINT. YEAH DEFINITELY WILL DRIVE UP THE PROSPECT WHICH MAY GET RID OF OUR YEAH. PROFESSIONALS ANYTHING . WE'RE PAYING PRETTY WELL. SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT I MEAN. IS IT POSSIBLE TO DO IN YOUR PROFESSIONAL EXPERIENCE. IS IT POSSIBLE TO MAKE THIS SUCCESSFUL? AT SOMETHING LESS THAN SIX. I THINK IT'S GONNA BE TOUGH. THERE IS A CASTLE AND RISK BROUGHT IT UP. I THINK THEY'RE AT SOME POINT YOU GO FROM IDEA OF HAMLET TO A GREEN SPACE, SOME OF IT AND WE HAVE AND. IF WE IF YOU ARE NOT YOUR DECISION MAKERS HAVING DISCOVERED YOU'RE NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THIS IDEA. YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S YOUR DECISION. WHAT REALLY, THEN SAYING IS WE ARE NOT AT THAT DENSITY REALLY SAYING WE WANT TO SING. WINDSOR'S THREE, UM, RETURNED. TO WINTER 73 SO YOU CAN ALREADY SEE KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT AND THINGS AND SO IT'S SOME POINT. IT'S REALLY GOING TO BE, UH SUBDIVISION AND PROBABLY WON'T HAVE MIXED USE TOO MUCH. YOU PUT IT OUT ON CENTRAL COLLEGE OR YOU WON'T HAVE A SECOND DOWN IN CENTRAL COLLEGE AROUND 605. SO I GUESS THE ANSWER QUESTION. I THINK WE'RE RIGHT THERE BEING ABLE TO MAKE IT WORK. I MEAN, I THINK I THINK WE CAN, UM AND COUNSELING, KISSED YOU. GOOD POINT ABOUT THE REAL REAL ESTATE PEACE. I MEAN, WE ARE PUTTING RETAIL IN THE CENTER. THE GREEN. THAT'S WHY THE CENTRAL MARINE HAS TO BE COMPELLED HAS BEEN WELL. AND WE DIDN'T GO OVER THE PLAN THAT WE DREW, BUT WE HAVE A COMMERCIAL COURT OF THE DAYLIGHTS ON CENTRAL COLLEGE WITH A LITTLE BIT OF A BOULEVARD. THAT BRINGS YOUR VIEW INTO THE TURN OF THE BEND AND THE GREEN WITH THE RETAIL COMMERCIAL REALLY INTENTIONAL. BECAUSE PEOPLE HAVE TO SEE YOU GET A SENSE THAT THERE IS SOMETHING IN THERE AND AGAIN. ANOTHER THING FOR PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF TO REVIEW BUT THE IDEA THAT THERE HAS TO BE A WINDOW THAT COMMERCIAL DAYLIGHTING SO PEOPLE KNOW THAT THERE'S SOMETHING IN THERE TO GO CHECK OUT. AND THAT'S PART OF YOUR HEIGHT. REASON FOR THE HEIGHT. THE REASON FOR THE HYPE WAS REALLY I THINK THE FRAME THE GREEN SPACE TO ALLOW ENOUGH RESIDENTIAL ABOVE A RETAIL FLOOR REALLY WANT. I MEAN, ONE STORY IS TOUGH. TWO STORIES GETS INTO THE DOABLE. UM THAT'S WHAT I FIND THAT DURING FOUR STORIES, THAT'S WHY EVEN TALKED ABOUT FOUR STORIES. I GIVE YOU THREE STORIES ABOVE THE ONE STORY BUT NOT ON DOESN'T LIKE IT EITHER. THE PROPOSAL WITH THAT OUT ON CENTRAL COLLEGE, PUTTING IT AROUND THE GREEN SPACES. RIGHT THANK YOU, CHRIS. THANK YOU. FOR THOSE OF YOU. THAT DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO WATCH THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AGAIN. IT'S WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU TO OUR COLLEAGUES ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION. THEY PUT A LOT OF HARD WORK INTO THIS SPENT SOME TIME ON IT WAS IT WAS LIKE A FOUR HOUR MEETING ACTUALLY LISTEN TO IT ALL THE WAY BACK FROM CULVERT INDIANA TO HERE. THE ENTIRE RIDE AND LIKE IT'S STILL GOING ON. SO VERY LONG MEETING, BUT I JUST COMPLIMENTS TO THE TO THE COMMISSION STAFF AND IN OUR STAFF FOR GOING THROUGH THE PRESENTATION AND THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC BUT ALSO PARTICIPATED. RIGHT. I THOUGHT DAVE WALLACE DID A REALLY GOOD JOB SORT OF QUICKLY, ENCAPSULATING WHERE WE ARE. BUT LET'S REMEMBER. WE WENT THROUGH THIS ENGAGEMENT ALBANY PROCESS, TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE PUBLIC WANTED TO SEE. AND I'M NOT SAYING THIS FINAL TIME. 
          WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A STRATEGIC PLAN FOR THE ALBANY BUT WE'RE GETTING CLOSE TO THAT END O ROAD WHERE WE ARE FULLY DEVELOPED. WHAT THINGS DID YOU STILL WANT TO SEE? AND THERE WAS A DESIRE TO SEE SOME RETAIL AND WALK ABILITY NORTH OF 1 61. SO IN ORDER WITH THE SPACE THAT'S AVAILABLE TO FACILITATE THOSE TYPES OF FEATURES. YOU NEED TO HAVE SOME LEVEL OF DENSITY AND WE DIDN'T HAVE A CLEAR STANDARDS IN THE PLAN. YOU KNOW, AS THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN, SUDDENLY, YOU KNOW, LANDED ON HER TABLE LITERALLY. SO WE BACKED UP AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME STANDARDS NOW, AND OUR PROFESSIONAL CONSULTANTS HAVE SAID A 6 TO 1 DENSITY. IS AT A MINIMUM. WHAT MIGHT SUPPORT THE RETAIL THAT WE'RE HOPING TO HAVE? SO EVERYTHING IS IN BALANCE HERE. LIKE MOST EVERYTHING IN LIFE IF YOU WANT TO HAVE THE RETAIL IN THE MANY OF THESE IN THAT COMMUNITY, WE NEED TO HAVE THE DENSITY. UM AND SORT OF, YOU KNOW, MAKING THAT THAT TRANSITION BETWEEN WHAT IS IN COLUMBUS AND THE SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL, YOU KNOW THAT THAT CORRIDOR MAKES SOME SENSE. WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE AUTO RETAIL. EVERYONE IS AGAINST THAT. THAT LIVES INVOLVED. I LOVE TACO. UM BUT AGAIN THIS THIS THIS PROCESS GIVES US TOOLS IN OUR BOX, SO TO SPEAK TO A DIRECT THE DEVELOPER AND WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. SET SOME GUIDELINES SET SOME EXPECTATIONS AND GIVE US A LITTLE BIT OF DEFENSIBLE POSITION AS THIS THING MATURES, 
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KNOWING THAT YOU KNOW THERE'S A PROPERTY OWNER THAT'S LOOKING TO DO SOME DEVELOPMENT. NOW WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO NARROW DOWN THE SPACE. I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT INDUSTRIES PLAN. BUT THERE'S YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS THAT WE STILL HAVE. I'M SURE WE CAN HEAR SOME MORE FROM THE PUBLIC, SO I THINK WE'LL JUST, UH UNLESS THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE FROM STAFF OR OUR CONSULTANT WILL JUST OPEN THE FLOOR. FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. YES, SIR. SORRY WE HAVE ONE MORE QUICK. I JUST WANT TO KNOW. ONE COMMENT ON NUMBER ONE JUST WENT PAST WEEK WITH MY 83 YEAR OLD MOM JUST RETIRING. HER SPEECH. IT IS LOOKING TO COME BACK TO GREEN. SHE. MADE IT VERY CLEAR SHE DOES NOT WANT TO BE WAREHOUSE. AND SHE DOESN'T WANT TO LIVE IN A COMMUNITY WE TOOK AROUND CAUSE SHE DOESN'T WANT TO BE IN AN AGE RESTRICTED COMMUNITY AS SHE WANTS TO BE AROUND YOUNGER PEOPLE. AND IT WAS WEIRD. THIS CONVERSATION HAS SEVERAL WEEKS AGO. I WENT TO A SESSION THE SESSION TWO WEEKS AGO, AND THAT WAS A BIG POINT, AND ANYBODY WANTS TO LOOK SHOULD LOOK AT THE LITTLE BOOK COMMUNITIES SITE UNDER A TARP. BIG POINT. THEIR MEMBERSHIP WANTS TO LIVE IN A DYNAMIC COMMUNITY WITH PEOPLE OF MANY AGES, INCLUDING CHILDREN AND FAMILY, GREEN FACE IN THE HUMAN IDEAS TO GET FAMILIES. IS TO PLAY AND SEE, CREATE ENVIRONMENT WHERE PEOPLE BEING HAPPY TO BE THERE POSSIBLE. I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT THAT'S PART OF THAT MAKES USE. THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU. SO I KNOW THIS IS A LITTLE UNUSUAL AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, PHIL. THANKS FOR REMINDING ME THAT WE'RE WE'RE LOOKING AT AN ORDINANCE THAT WILL BE SET FOR SECOND READING AT OUR NEXT COUNCIL MEETING OR SOME OTHER DATE CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT STAFF RECOMMENDED. 
          UM BUT WE'VE ALSO DONE A PRESENTATION ON THE RESOLUTION. THE RESOLUTION WILL REQUIRE A PUBLIC HEARING. UM SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND SORT OF COMBINE THESE TWO. IT MAKES SENSE COUNCIL IS GOING TO HAVE TO HELP GUIDE ME HERE THIS IS CAN WE FLYING BLIND HERE? CAN WE SET THE ORDINANCE THE SECOND HEARING NOW AND THEN MOVE ON TO THE RESOLUTION? YEAH WE'LL TAKE ACTION ON THEIR WARDROBES AND THEN AND THEN MOVE INTO THE RESOLUTION. THAT'S THAT'S A GOOD THAT'S STRAIGHTENS THINGS OUT A LITTLE BIT. THANK YOU. UM OKAY. JUST TO CLARIFY. DOES THAT MEAN THEN WE'LL HAVE A CONVERSATION ON THE ORDINANCE AT THE SECOND HEARING. PUBLIC TIME . YES THERE RIGHT. THERE WILL BE A PUBLIC ON THE ORDINANCE. JULY 9TH. AGAIN THE ORDINANCES FOR CLARITY FOR THOSE LISTENING TO HOME AND HERE IN THE AUDIENCE THOSE DEAL WITH THE CODE MODIFICATIONS SO THAT THE LAW CHANGES LITERALLY IN THE CODE. WILL BE SET FOR SECOND READING AT OUR MEETING, SECOND MEETING IN JULY. SO. JUST GO AHEAD AND READ THAT IN THE RECORD, MAKE SURE WE'RE CLEAR. ALRIGHT IF THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL STAFF FOR COUNCIL COMMENT ON ORDINANCE 23 2022. AND WE'LL GO AHEAD AND SET THAT FOR SECOND READING OF OUR MEETING ON JULY 19TH. WHICH TAKES US TO RESOLUTIONS AND 
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PUBLIC HEARING. THE FIRST RESOLUTION IS RESOLUTION ARE 25 2020 TO A RESOLUTION TO APPROVE ADOPTING INCORPORATE THE HELMET FOCUS AREA PLAN INTO THE 2021 ENGAGEMENT STRATEGIC PLAN, AS REQUESTED BY THE CITY AND ALBANY. STEPS DOWN THE PRESENTATION OR CONSULTANT HAS PROVIDED AN UPDATE COUNCIL HAS ASKED QUESTIONS. I THINK AS LONG AS EVERYONE HAS ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. ALL RIGHT. I KNOW THAT WE HAVE AT LEAST THREE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT HAVE COMPLETED SPEAKER CARDS AS IT RELATES TO THE RESOLUTION. I'M JUST GOING TO DO IT IN ALPHABETICAL ORDER. THE FIRST INDIVIDUAL BE LARRY COHEN. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE, SIR. MM HMM. AS YOU SAID, WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO FOCUS MY COMMENTS ON THE RESOLUTION, AND I DO APPRECIATE ALL OF THE GREAT QUESTIONS THAT I HEARD FROM THE COUNCIL MEMBERS TO THE PRESENTERS THIS EVENING AND ALSO THE THOUGHTFUL COMMENTS. UM, THAT YOU HAD, I WOULD JUST SAY IN TERMS OF THE. THE COMMUNITY BEING A MIXED USE AND HAVING ALL SORTS OF AGES. MY PARENTS USED TO LIVE IN THE DOMINION CLUB. AND WE TOOK OUR KIDS UP THERE ALL THE TIME THAT WE LIVE IN THE LAKE. SO WE'RE LIKE LESS THAN A MILE FROM WHERE THEY USED TO LIVE. AND WE THERE WERE SOME PEOPLE WHO WERE WHO LIKED THE FACT THAT OUR KIDS WERE THERE WITH US VISITING MY PARENTS, AND THERE WERE SOME WHO DID NOT. UM SO THEY'RE LIKE, YOU KNOW YOUR MOTHER WHO WANTS TO BE AROUND? UM YOUNGER FOLKS. THERE ARE ALSO SOME PEOPLE WHO WOULD RATHER UM, SO I DO HAVE A LOT OF COMMENTS. BUT I DID WANT TO POINT OUT A COUPLE OF THINGS AS 
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TO WHY I DON'T THINK THAT THE FOCUS. AREA OF PLAYING AS IT'S PRESENTED TONIGHT SHOULD BE ADOPTED BY COUNCIL. THE FIRST COUPLE OF PAGES. I DON'T HAVE A REAL BIG PROBLEM WITH THAT TALKS ABOUT THE COMPONENTS OF HANDLING , BUT WHEN YOU GET TO TEACH SEVEN WHERE IT AND I THINK YOU'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THIS, WHERE IT DEFINES THE WHERE THE HAMLET SHOULD BE. I DON'T THINK IT IS COUNCIL OF THE DARK , POINTED OUT THAT THAT THAT'S THE PROPER PLACE FOR IT RELEASED THE PROPER SCOPE. I ALSO HEARD SOME COMMENTS THAT THIS THIS EVENING ABOUT HOW THE ENTRANCE OFF. I THINK IT WAS CENTRAL COLLEGE WOULD HAVE THIS OPEN AREA TO WHERE THE COMMERCIAL WAS IN THE CENTER AND AGAIN IF WE TAKE A LOOK BACK AT THE PLAN THAT'S IN THE PROPOSAL, WHICH IS ADMITTEDLY TAKEN FROM THE STEINER PROPOSAL. THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE WHAT? ANOTHER DEVELOPER. I MEAN, I THINK WE CAN ALL ASSUME THAT SINCE THAT'S STILL THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY THAT THAT'S WHAT WILL COME BACK TO COUNCIL, BUT, UM, I'M NOT SURE THAT SHOULD BE A PART OF AT LEAST THOSE STEPS SPECIFICALLY SHOULD BE A PART OF WHAT'S ADOPTED BECAUSE THAT'S BASICALLY TELLING THE DEVELOPER THIS IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. I'M SORRY YOU DO OR YOU DO NOT THINK THAT SHOULD BE ADOPTED. I DON'T THINK THAT THE DIAGRAM THAT'S ESSENTIALLY THE STEINER PROPOSAL WITH A COUPLE OF MODIFICATIONS TO IT. SHOULD BE ADAPTED BECAUSE THAT'S I MEAN, THERE MIGHT BE A DIFFERENT PROPOSAL. THAT'S BETTER. BUT THIS IS SAYING THIS IS WHAT WE'VE APPROVED AS A HAMLET WHERE THIS IS OUR GUIDANCE, AT LEAST AND I'M NOT SURE YOU WANT TO BE THAT SPECIFIC TO ESSENTIALLY ADOPT THE PREVIOUS PROPOSAL FROM THE LAST DEVELOPER THAT WAS IN HERE. 
          I WOULD ALSO POINT OUT CLARIFYING QUESTION. YEAH, RESPONDING. FOR MY MICHAEL. UM. 
          ARE YOU JUST SO WE CAN MAKE SURE WE'RE FOLLOWING EXACTLY YOUR REFERENCES TO THE NEW HAMLET. 
          FOCUS AREA PLAN ON PAGE 14 AND 15 SORT OF A BLOWN UP. DIAGRAM. RIGHT AS WELL AS THE ONE ON 17. 
          OKAY? AND SO I'M ASSUMING THAT THE PLANNERS THAT WE ENGAGE IN THIS PROCESS HAVE RECOMMENDED THESE STREET CONNECTIONS IN VERY SPECIFIC PLACES BECAUSE OF EXISTING STREET CONNECTIONS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET, RIGHT? SO I MEAN, I. I'M NOT. WHO KNOWS WHAT THE FILE DEVELOPMENT PLAN TO LOOK LIKE IT'S SUBMITTED, BUT WE PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE A PRETTY STRONG INDICATOR THAT WE WANT TO HAVE. VERY DELIBERATE ROAD CONNECTIONS. I SEE YOUR POINT ABOUT ROAD CONNECTIONS, BUT MAYBE NOT THE REST OF THE RIGHT NOW. I THINK ALL THE BOXES ARE JUST THAT, RIGHT. OKAY, THANKS. THE OTHER THING THAT I WOULD POINT OUT, UM AND IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A CROSS OVER TO THE ORDINANCE, BUT, UM, IN THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, AND I DO HAVE A YOU KNOW? PROBLEM WITH THE SIXTH UNIT DENSITY AND I'LL GET TO SOME OF THOSE OTHER THINGS. BUT IF IN NUMBER FIVE WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT THE BUILDING PAINT IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT, UM. OBVIOUSLY TALKS IN FEET, AND I THINK YOU YOU SORT OF TRY TO ADDRESS THIS A LITTLE BIT. BUT IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE RESIDENTIAL OUTSIDE VILLAGE CENTER DESIGN GUIDELINES AND REQUIREMENTS. SECTION FIVE. WHICH IS THE BACK PART OF THE COORDINATES. THAT TALKS ON PAGEE FAMILY ON PAGE SIX. IT TALKS ABOUT 1.5 TO 2.5 STORIES WITHOUT ANY REFERENCE TO THE. AND THE SAME THING FOR MULTI FAMILY IS ON PAGE 10. WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT BUILDING HEIGHT MAY VARY BETWEEN A MINIMUM OF 1.5 IN THE MATCH WITH THREE STORIES. SO I I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY HOW YOU WANT TO. 
          HANDLE THE DIFFERENT REFERENCES TO STORIES AND FEET. BUT IT SEEMS THAT THERE IS A DISCREPANCY THERE. THAT DOESN'T QUITE MATCH. STAFF ARE YOU FOLLOWING HIS EXPLANATION HAS TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE. YEAH. I THINK SO. WHAT WE TRY TO DO AND YOU'RE RIGHT THERE THE WE MET WITH NOT MEASURE. WE THEY'RE MEASURED DIFFERENTLY BETWEEN THE STRATEGIC PLAN AND ARE MISSING FOR STORIES. SO I THINK WHAT WE DID WHEN WE DEVELOPED THE STANDARD AS WE LOOKED AT SPECIFIC, YOU KNOW WHAT WHAT HAS BEEN DEVELOPED IN THE COMMUNITY TODAY? BUT ALSO WHAT'S THE KIND OF THE PROTOTYPICAL TYPE OF TOWNHOUSE OR SOME OTHER NON SINGLE FAMILY 
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? UH HOUSING PRODUCT? HOW TALL THEY ARE, HOW MANY STORIES THAT THEY ARE? AND WE USE THOSE TO DEVELOP OUR STANDARDS THAT IS UP TO TYPICALLY UP TO 40 FT AND TYPICALLY UP TO COULD BE UP TO THREE STORIES IN HEIGHT, THE OTHER TOWN HOMES WE'VE SEEN IN THE COMMUNITY ARE 2.5. UM AS WELL BUT THAT THAT UP TO THREE STORY LIMITATIONS THAT EXISTED HOW CODE EXISTS TODAY. IT'S NOT A CHANGE AT ALL. SO I GUESS MY HEARING THAT THE DEVELOPER ANY DEVELOPER OF A HAMLET WOULD BE HELD BOTH STANDARDS IN TERMS OF A MAXIMUM. THERE ALSO HAS TO LIVE WITHIN THE MAXIMUM. STORIES THAT ARE IN THE DESIGN GUIDE. THAT'S CORRECT. I WAS ABOUT TO SAY THAT THAT'S ACTUALLY WHAT WE WERE ASKING FOR EARLIER THAN BECAUSE WE SAID THAT ABOUT THE RESOLUTION, RIGHT? SO WE SAID CERTAIN HEIGHT NOT TO EXCEED A CERTAIN STORIES. SO BETWEEN THE TWO YOU'VE ALREADY COVERED THAT FOR THE RESIDENTIAL. YES YEP. FOR RESIDENTS, THE RESIDENTS WOULDN'T OKAY. SO A COUPLE OF OTHER QUESTIONS I WOULD ASK AREE PLAN THAT CAME ORIGINALLY FROM STEINER AND IS ALSO IN THE PLANET'S PRESENTED TONIGHT IS THIS ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY? AND I THINK IT'S. DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND HOW THAT FITS IN WITH UM, THE ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT IN TERMS OF RESIDENTIAL VERSUS COMMERCIAL, BECAUSE CLEARLY IT'S A DWELLING UNIT. THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE. UM SO SHOULD IT BE COUNTED AS A DWELLING UNIT? IF SO, THEN OBVIOUSLY THAT IMPACTS THE DENSITY. IF IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT AVAILABLE FOR PEOPLE TO GO INTO TO USE AS AN OFFICE OR TO EAT AT AS A RESTAURANT, SO IS IT REALLY COMMERCIAL? UM AND IF YOU DO CLASSIFY AS COMMERCIAL THAT COULD BE THE ENTIRE COMMERCIAL ASPECT OF THAT PARTICULAR HAMLET. UM I THINK 40,000 SQUARE AT 33 ACRES AT 1/6 DENSITY. UM YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT 100 AND 94. I THINK IT WAS UNITS AND. YOU KNOW, 200 198 UNITS AND 200 SQUARE FEET. THAT'S 39,000 SQUARE 600 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL. AND IF YOU'RE ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY IS 40,000 SQUARE FEET. THERE DOESN'T HAVE TO BE. ANY OTHER COMMERCIAL IN THE PROJECT. UM I WOULD ALSO. AGAIN AS I MENTIONED , WE HAVE A STOREFRONT AT LEAST ONE IN THE VILLAGE CENTER. THAT'S THAT'S EMPTY. IN TERMS OT INTO ALBANY, BUT WE DO HAVE THE BUBBLY FOOD HALL. THAT'S WE THINK IT'S CLOSE TO OPENING. 
          MAYBE I DON'T KNOW ANYONE CONSTRUCTION, BUT, UM, THAT'S IN THAT GENERAL AREA. THAT'S WOULDN'T BE ACCESSIBLE TO THIS PARTICULAR. DEVELOPMENT UM AND I GUESS SORT OF MAYBE TWO. ADDRESS WHAT COUNCILWOMAN RISK SAID EARLIER. DO WE EVEN REALLY WANT THIS? AND YOU KNOW WHEN MPS K PRESENTED THEIR THEIR SLIDES THAT TALKED ABOUT THE SURVEY? UM IT TALKED ABOUT DINING AND IT TALKED ABOUT PARKS AND IT TALKED ABOUT SINGLE FAMILY BEING 15% OR MORE OF THE RESPONDENTS, ONE OF THOSE THINGS. AND MULTI FELONY FAMILY AND MIXED USE. WE'RE AT 3% AND 1. SO I'M NOT SURE HOW WE GOT TO WHERE WE ARE. BECAUSE BASED ON THE STREETS STRATEGIC PLAN THAT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THEY WERE REALLY A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WERE ASKING FOR THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT. UM. AGAIN I DON'T WANT TO REHASH A LOT OF WHAT WAS ALREADY SAID. I WOULDN'T ONE QUESTION I WOULD WANT TO ASK STAFF IS THAT YOU KEPT ON REFERENCING IN YOUR PRESENTATION. HAMLETS YET WE ONLY HAVE ONE IN THE PROPOSAL BECAUSE ONE HAS BEEN REMOVED THAT WE DON'T KNOW WHY. AND NOT ANOTHER ONE CAN PROPOSE. SO WE'RE ONLY TALKING ABOUT THE ONE LOCATIONS. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE CAN BE SAID ABOUT WHY THAT WAS REMOVED AND NOT REPLACED BY SOMETHING SOMEWHERE ELSE. IF TWO IN THE ORIGINAL STRATEGIC PLAN WAS WHAT WE THOUGHT WAS THE RIGHT THING TO DO. YEAH, AND I GUESS YOU KNOW BACK TO YOU KNOW THAT THE QUESTION OF IF WE GET UP TO EIGHT, RIGHT JUST TO DO THE MATH AGAIN INSTEAD OF 39,600 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL. NOW YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT 52,800 SQUARE. OF COMMERCIAL AND 264 RESIDENTIAL UNITS, SO I GUESS THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION THERE THAT I WENT OVER. UM BUT I THINK THAT THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AS THEIR PRESENTED TONIGHT. TO ME WOULD NOT MAKE SENSE TO ADAPT. WHAT'S HERE? I THINK THEY'RE THE REASON WE'RE BACK HERE TONIGHT IS BECAUSE LAST OCTOBER, NOVEMBER, UM THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL WAS 
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VOTED DOWN BECAUSE OF A LACK OF CLARITY IN THE STANDARDS, AND I THINK THERE'S A LOT HERE THAT IT'S STILL LACKING ON. IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT I THINK THAT THIS IS WHAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION SENT TO YOU. BUT THIS IS WHAT YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH, AND I DON'T THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE ADOPTED. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR COUNSELOR. CHURCH NEXT STEP IS TRICIA STUFF. UP THERE YOU ARE. SORRY. NOT QUITE KNOW THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING WITH THAT LATE PROMISE TO BRING WINE AND I FEEL THAT I GUESS FOR PIZZA DAYS WILL YOU PULL THE MICROPHONE PLEASE PASS ALONG MY COMPLIMENTS TO BOB AND HIS HIS. THANK YOU. EAT NOW, SO WE'RE GONNA GO OVER? ROCKY FORK AND HUDSON AND, YEAH , MENTAL TOUGHNESS IT WOULD TAKE TO GO CRAZY, WEIRD SPORT. CAN WE REFER TO YOU AS MRS RIGHT? AND YOU WOULD THINK I WOULD LIKE ACCIDENTALLY LOSE £5 PROCESS WORKS LIKE THAT. IT'S NOT WORK THAT WAY. ALRIGHT YEAH. SO THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT. UM. HIS PUBLIC MCDONALD'S NOW SO THANK YOU, TRICIA SIGNEE ANY I'M SURE YOU ARE TIRED OF HEARING FROM ME, BUT I DID TALK TO A LOT OF RESIDENTS, AND WE HAVE CHATTED OVER THE OVER THE LAST YEAR, RIGHT SO EVER COLLECTIVE. OPINION ON THIS. UM I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS TAKING A STEP BACK AND TAKING A HARD LOOK AT IT BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE, OBVIOUSLY WE WERE IN A STRANGE PLACE LAST YEAR, RIGHT? WE'RE ALL LEARNING THROUGH THIS. AND I KNOW WAY MORE ABOUT HAMLETS AND I EVER IMAGINE BUT I JUST WANTED TO REMIND YOU AGAIN LIKE BRUCE, YOU KNOW, BRUCE BROUGHT IT UP AND I KNOW THERE. THEN IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE ASKED FOR. LIKE WE DIDN'T WANT IT. I WOULD LOVE TO WALK TO AN ICE CREAM SHOP. I WOULD LOVE TO WALK TO GET MY NAILS DONE RIDE BIKES, BUT I'M GOING TO HAVE TO GO THROUGH AN APARTMENT COMPLEX TO GET THERE. RIGHT SO THAT CONCERNS ME. UM I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE ENOUGH CONCERNS THAT WERE RAISED AND WE HAVE ENOUGH QUESTIONS AND CLARITY. THAT HASN'T HAPPENED YET. WE HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS THAT HAVEN'T BEEN ANSWERED. WE HAVE A LOT OF CLARITY THAT WE NEED. WE NEED BOUNDARIES. I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE ENOUGH. 
          INFORMATION TO MAKE A DECISION TONIGHT. COULD WE CONSIDER IF WE HAVE TO HAVE THIS AT ALL? PUSHING THIS BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND LETTING THEM DO THEIR JOB? TAKE A LOOK AT THIS. UM, YOU KNOW, IS THIS THE RIGHT THING FOR THIS CORNER. UM. I HAVE A LOT OF I DON'T AGAIN. I DON'T WANT TO REITERATE EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN HASHED OVER. BUT A LOT OF OUR TOP CONCERNS ARE THE GEOGRAPHIC GUIDELINES ARE UNCLEAR. WE DON'T WANT HAMLET CREEP. AND THERE'S AN S AT THE END OF HAMLET IN EVERYTHING. SO HOW MANY ARE THERE? WHAT'S THE MINIMUM ACREAGE? WHAT'S THE MAXIMUM ACREAGE? UM, YOU KNOW WHAT DO WE WANT IT TO LOOK LIKE? UM DEFINING THE BOUNDARIES WAS OUR BIGGEST CONCERN. UM THE BULLET POINT I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT THAT. IT LOOKS LIKE A BULL'S EYE. IT WOULD BE NICE IF IT WAS BACKSTAGE IN SO WE COULD SEE WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE AND WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE CONTAINED. IT WOULD BE NICE IF IT DID NOT CROSS ANY MAJOR ROADWAYS FROM A SAFETY STANDPOINT FOR KIDS. THIS WEEK'S MONEY NEEDS TO WD 40 THAT'S SPEAKING. AH ALSO, RESIDENTIAL DENSITY IS A VERY SERIOUS CONCERN, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN I GO TO COLE'S AND I SEE LIKE IT'S 30 BUCKS, BUT 20% OFF COUPON. IT LOOKS A LOT CHEAPER, RIGHT AND I UNDERSTAND THAT WE STARTED EIGHT AND WE GOT DOWN TO SIX AND WE APPRECIATE THAT. BUT COULD IT BE FIVE? YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A LOT OF HOUSING AROUND THIS AREA AND YOU KNOW WE WERE JUST OVER THE COAT. THERE'S A LOT OF COMMUNITY. THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE OVER THERE IN THE APARTMENT COMPLEXES THAT ARE WALKING AROUND. THEY'RE BRINGING THEIR DOGS OUT THERE RIDING THEIR BIKES. YOU'VE GOT SUNTAN OVER THE AREA OF AN CLEAVER WITH AREA WENT WORK YOU'VE GOT, UM WOULD WOULDN'T HE? WOODHAVEN IS COMING. WHAT IS IT MILL? SOMETHING OVER THERE BY THE DEMANDING CLUB. THANK YOU. SO MANY. THERE'S SO MANY RESIDENCES AROUND THERE. I THINK WE'RE UNDERESTIMATING HOW MANY FOLKS CAN GET THERE WITHIN FIVE OR 10 MINUTES, RIGHT? YOU KNOW, A FRIEND THAT RACHEL BREAK FROM TIDEWATER TO KROGER, RIGHT? AND IT DOESN'T TAKE THAT LONG. SO JUST MAYBE TAKING A LINDA THE LOOK AT SOME OF THESE STUDIES. LIKE WHAT? THERE WAS A BULLET POINT AGAIN A BULL'S EYE AROUND. THE PEOPLE THAT COULD GET THEIR ONE THIN FIVE OR 10 MINUTES, AND MY HOUSE ISN'T ON THERE. AND I KNOW I COULD GET THERE WITHIN FIVE OR 10 MINUTES. SO IS THIS THE RIGHT LOCATION? DOES IT SERVE THE PEOPLE THAT IT'S MEANT TO SERVE? UM, WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT SAFETY. ALLOWING OUR KIDS TO RIDE BIKES THERE. WALK THERE CAN THEY CROSS THE MAJOR ROADWAY 
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WITHOUT A MAJOR CONCERN IS WOULD YOU LET YOUR KID RIGHT THERE? BACK DOWN THERE TO GET ICE CREAM? THE ANSWER FOR ME RIGHT NOW IS NO. IT WAS BROUGHT UP IN THE PLANNING COMMISSION. DO WE LEAVE ENOUGH ROOM? IN THE DOING THE DEVELOPMENT. IF WE WANTED A ROUNDABOUT, COULD WE MAKE SPACE FOR ONE? COULD WE REQUIRE THAT? WE TALKED ABOUT PARK SPACE. I THINK THERE WAS A GENERAL MISTRUST OF THE PROCESS AND A GENERAL MISTRUST OF THE STUDIES . UM SO WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT PARK SPACE, I'M SEEING 25 75 I LIKE THAT. BUT THEN SOMEWHERE IN SOMEWHERE IN THE TEXT SOMEWHERE, YOU CAN TRADE THAT OUT. OR YOU CAN BY THAT OUT IN SOME WAY, RIGHT? SO IF HAMLET ARE SPECIAL , AND WE SHOULD PUT IN THERE THAT YOU CAN'T DO THAT, RIGHT? YOU SHOULD HAVE A CIVIC GREEN. I LIKE THE IDEA OF AXING THEN IN A LITTLE BIT BETTER, SO THERE SHOULD BE ONE SPACE NOT YOU KNOW, MULTIPLE LITTLE SPACES WITHIN SO THAT PEOPLE CAN GATHER AND YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE. YOU SHOULDN'T BE ALLOWED TO SWAP IT OUT RIGHT? SO IF IT'S REALLY THERE TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY IN ITS SPACE TOGETHER. WE SHOULD PROTECT THAT. SO I THINK THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF MISTRUST ABOUT A LOT OF OUR QUESTIONS COME FROM THE DATA, RIGHT. SO WE ASKED FOR A TRAFFIC STUDY. WE ASKED FOR A SCHOOL IMPACT STUDY, BUT WE DIDN'T TRUST THOSE NUMBERS. AND ONCE WE SAW THE DATA, THE RAW DATA BEHIND THOSE NUMBERS. WE HAD EVEN MORE QUESTIONS, AND WE DIDN'T AGREE WITH IT. SO MAYBE WE BUILD STANDARDS AROUND. YOU KNOW IF WE HAVE A TRAFFIC STUDY , WHAT ARE WE LOOKING FOR? LIKE, WHAT ARE THE REQUIREMENTS? IT HAS TO BE SCHOOL IN SESSION. IT CAN'T BE A HOLIDAY. RIGHT UM NON COVID RIGHT IN SCHOOL SCHOOL IMPACT. IT HAS TO BE A LOCAL COMMUNITY. IT CAN'T BE AN APARTMENT COMPLEX DOWN IN CINCINNATI. RIGHT SO WHAT? WHAT DO WE WANT TO SEE IN THOSE STUDIES LIKE WHAT'S ACCEPTABLE TO US? AND THEN TO YOUR POINT. WHAT CAN WE WHAT IS OUR THRESHOLD? HOW MUCH TRAFFIC WOULD WE ALLOW ON THAT CORNER? I CAN'T GET TO SCHOOL WITHOUT PASSING THAT CORNER. I CAN'T DROP MY KIDS OFF WITHOUT PASSING THAT CORNER, SO IT'S ALREADY BACKED UP ALL THE WAY UP TO WHERE THIS HAMLET WILL BE. SO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. AND HOW DO WE HOW DO WE MANAGE TRAFFIC AND SAFETY ON THAT CORNER IF WE'RE GOING TO ADD ALL OF THIS RESIDENTIAL UM, BUILDING HEIGHT WAS A CONCERN. SCHOOL CAPACITY WAS CONCERNED TRAFFIC WAS A CONCERN. WE TALKED ABOUT IS RESTRICTED. I THINK ONE OF THE ESSENTIAL COMPONENTS OF A HAMLET JUST DEFINING IT IS THAT IT'S A LIFESPAN COMMUNITIES SO IF IT'S ILLEGAL FOR US TO SAY. THAT THERE HAS TO BE AN INTEREST STRICT ID COMPONENT. IS THAT A COMPONENT OF A HAMLET? SO I GUESS THE QUICHES IT DO. WE HAVE TO HAVE ANY RESTRICTED COMPONENT OR ARE WE NOT ALLOWED TO ASK FOR THAT? SO I FEEL LIKE THERE'S SO MANY QUESTIONS THAT WE NEED TO ANSWER. I DON'T KNOW. WE COULD WITH A CLEAR CONSCIENCE. MAKE A DECISION TONIGHT. BASED ON WHAT WE KNOW. UM. WE DID ASK FOR THE MATH AROUND THE 6 TO 1. AND I APPRECIATE CHRIS. YOU SENDING THAT SYNOPSIS? UM BUT AGAIN, IT WOULD BE NICE TO ACTUALLY SEE THE MATH. RIGHT? SO I THINK THERE IS A LOT OF MISTRUST WITH THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE WE DIDN'T GET THOSE SORT OF ANSWERS BEFORE , SO IF YOU DON'T MIND, IT WOULD BE NICE, TOO. TO SEE WHERE THAT COMES FROM. JUST SO WE UNDERSTAND. UM BECAUSE THOSE QUESTIONS COME UP TO WITH THE COMMUNITY JUST BEING CLEAR AND FUZZY MATH AND INCLUDE THE MATH. 
          THANK YOU. UM, I HAVE A TON OF NOTES HERE AND I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT YOU GUYS HAVE BROUGHT UP BECAUSE I THINK WE FEEL THE SAME WAY WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT PARKING. WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT SCHOOL CAPACITY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THE LOCATION. AND WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT IF WE WANT IT AT ALL. SO I APPRECIATE YOU. TAKING ALL OF THOSE CONCERNS INTO CONSIDERATION AS YOU MAKE YOUR DECISION TONIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THE NEXT SPEAKER IS KIRK SMITH. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE, SIR. LET ME TELL YOU HOW INTIMIDATING IT IS TO FOLLOW MRS UNIVERSE. KIRK SMITH, 68 30 CENTRAL COLLEGE ROAD. ABOUT 2/10 OF A MILE FROM THE HAMLET. UM. SO I LIKE TO SAY THIS IS THIS IS THE SAME PORK CUT OF MEAT. WITH SOME FRESH GRAVY. PUT ON IT, UM FEELS LIKE WE WERE JUST HERE ABOUT EIGHT MONTHS AGO HAVING THIS CONVERSATION MY QUESTION LAST MONTH PLANNING COMMISSION WAS WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER BRISK ASK TONIGHT. WHY DO WE NEED A HAMLET ? WHAT? WHAT BOX? ARE WE CHECKING? FIVE. BRINGING THE HAMLET CONCEPT TO NEW ALBANY. WHY DO WE NEED TO HANDLE WHAT? I'VE HEARD TIME AND TIME AGAIN. 
          WAS WELL THIS THIS GOES BACK TO THE ENGAGED NEW ALBANY. AND WHAT HE HAS SAID. AND WHAT WE'VE ALL 
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SAID BEFORE 48% OF RESPONDENTS WHAT IT ADDITIONAL DIED. 32% OF RESPONDENTS WANTED PARKS GREEN SPACE. THEN WAY WAY DOWN 15% SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES. THEN 3% MULTI FAMILY HOUSING, RIGHT? SO WHY DO WE WANT TO PUT A DENSITY BOMB RIGHT AT THE CORNER OF 605? AND IN CENTRAL COLLEGE. IT MAKES NO SENSE TO ME AT SIX AT SIX DWELLINGS PER ACRE. WE'RE STILL AT 180 UNITS, RIGHT? BUT THAT'S STILL AN ABSOLUTE DENSITY BOMBS, SO I HAVE A BIG PROBLEM WITH THAT. I ALSO THANK UM IF WE'VE BEEN WATCHING THE HEADLINES RECENTLY, WE KNOW THERE IS A LOT OF BAD ACTIVITY GOING ON JUST TO OUR IMMEDIATE WEST OF THAT LOCATION. IN THE CITY OF COLUMBUS THAT'S TAKEN. IT'S GIVING US HEADLINES IN THE NEWS ON A WEEKLY BASIS. AND, UM WHEN WE START TO PUT THAT INTO OUR COMMUNITY. ARE WE STARTING TO INVITE THOSE BAD ACTORS INTO OUR COMMUNITY, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S REALLY THE INTENTION HERE. I'M SURE IT'S NOT AND I DON'T THINK WE WANT THAT BROUGHT IN AND I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE ANY ANY KIND OF BY PRODUCT THAT WOULD BE AT ALL THE INTEREST. LASTLY I WOULD JUST SAY THAT IS THERE ARE MORE MY QUESTION THE COUNCIL WOULD BE IF WE ARE HELPING ON HAMLETS IS THERE MORE APPROPRIATE PLACE FOR HIM LIKE THAT'S MORE CENTRALIZED? OR THAT COULD HANDLE THE DENSITY IN A MORE APPROPRIATE WAY THAN HAVING IT ON KIND OF OUR WESTERN FLANK . SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE. I THINK ALL THE COUNCIL MEMBERS SPECIFICALLY COUNCIL MEMBER DURIC. HAS SOME VERY POIGNANT QUESTIONS. I THINK HE'S SPOT ON WITH WHAT WE HAVE HEARD FROM OUR FELLOW COMMUNITY MEMBERS. SO THANK YOU. UM AND AGAIN, I WOULD DEFER TO TWO COUNCIL MEMBER BRISK AND SAY IS A HAMLET, EVEN THE RIGHT DIRECTION TO GO. SO THANK YOU. MR SMITH. ANYONE ELSE FROM THE PUBLIC THAT MAYBE DIDN'T FILL OUT OF CARS. I WOULD LIKE TO OFFER COMMENTS. GOOD EVENING. IF YOU COULD PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. 
          CHURCH. MATT MCFADDEN, 707 REMAIN IN PLACE USED HUNDREDS REITERATE TWO THINGS. SORRY. 
          REITERATION, BUT DO WE WANT TO HANDLE IT AT ALL? REVIEW. IS IT THE RIGHT TIME? HAVE NOT FULLY BUILT OUT DOWN TO THE DOWNTOWN AREA AT THE RIGHT TIME ANYWHERE. SECONDLY, WE HAVE THREE PEOPLE, AT LEAST SELF IDENTIFIED LAWYERS IN THE ROOM AT NIGHT, SO THEY WILL ALL TELL YOU LANGUAGE MATTERS AND THE LANGUAGE OF THE STANDARDS. I'M NOT A LAWYER SPENT 15 PLUS YEARS BEFORE THE FINANCE SO I'LL REITERATE SOMETHING ABOUT DENSITY. 0.0 TIMES IN MY CAREER. HAVE I EVER BEEN ABLE TO SHOW UP AND SAY, TRUST ME? I'VE DONE THAT. JUST BELIEVE THAT'S THE RIGHT SHOW ME THE AND MR STEPHENS RECORD SET. THAT'S A MATHEMATICAL FINANCIAL CALCULATOR. IN SUMMARY DATA. WHY 6 TO 1 MAKES SENSE. WHEN I WAS IN THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING LAST MONTH. 6 TO 1 WAS IDENTIFIED AS NECESSARY TO MAKE THE HAMLET VIABLE AS A STAND ALONE AND DID NOT CONSIDER THE SURROUNDING HERE. AT ALL. THE COMMENT THAT WAS COMMISSION. SO WHEN YOU CONSIDER THEM WHAT 40% OF NEW ALBANY THAT LIVES WITHIN THE BIBLE 10 MINUTES, MAKING 35% OF THIS PROPOSED SITE. 61 MAKES SENSE. OR IS IT 513 20 SOMEWHERE IN TO MAKE IT VIABLE? WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE LANGUAGE. THERE ARE THINGS THAT WERE SAID. AND THERE ARE THINGS THAT ARE WRITTEN. SO, 75 25 SAID TO BE MINIMAL. BUT IT'S WRITTEN AS SHOULD BE. THAT'S A SUGGESTION THAT'S NOT STANDING WHY THIS DOESN'T SAY IT MUST BE AT A MINIMUM. IN NUMBER THREE AND THE DEVELOPMENT SHOULD INCLUDE A RATIO APPROXIMATELY 200 SQUARE FEET PROMOTION. STATED AS MANY SIR. SHOULDN'T THAT'S NOT AS DEFINITIVE AS IT COULD. BEHIND AGAIN WAS ADDRESSED. I THINK WE ALL HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT. IF WE GET OURSELVES IN A SQUARE PIPE DEBATE. CERTAIN IS WHAT CAN WE? WHAT CAN WE SQUEEZED INSIDE? CERTAIN AMOUNT OF LASTLY, YOU KNOW? AND WENT THROUGH THIS WITH THE COMMUNITY LAST YEAR. 
          COMMUNITY AGAIN THIS YEAR IDENTITY SCHOOL IMPACT TRAFFIC WILL BE THE TOP THREE THINGS. I THINK THAT WE USE THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS CARE. AGAIN TRICIA MENTIONED IT. IT'S TRUE. I'VE GOT TWO SMALL KIDS WILL SPEND THE NEXT 14 YEARS TAKING THEM THROUGH THAT SCHOOL SYSTEM. ONE ROAD TAKE DOWN TO THE AND IT IS RIGHT. THAT LOCATION IS NOT THE PLACE TO GUESS AND GET IT WRONG. 
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FIRST TIME YOU'RE TRYING TO BUILD SO AGAIN, ONE DO WE NEED IT TO DO? IS THERE A BETTER PLACE TO TEST OUT THE HAMLET CONCEPT? THEN IN A PLACE THAT IS SO CENTRAL THE CITY OF ESPECIALLY PEOPLE NORTH OF ONE STATE. SORRY JUST GOT A QUESTION FOR YOU. IF YOU DON'T MIND, UM, TRYING TO RUN AWAY. YEAH SO YOU MENTIONED TRAFFIC DENSITY AND SCHOOL IMPACT. IF YOU HAD A RANK THOSE WHAT WOULD BE THE MOST YOU KNOW THE MOST CRITICAL THING OF THE THREE. YOU KNOW IF YOU COULD POSSIBLY DRINK. I FEEL LIKE DENSITY AND SCHOOL IMPACT BECOME INTERTWINED. NOW I KNOW THAT THERE'S A DIFFERENT BUILDING DENSITY AND COULD DETERMINE THE SCHOOL. BUT THE DENSITY AND ME IS PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT IS IT WILL PLAY THE MOST. MOST IMPACT ON THE OTHER TWO. PRODUCT THAT WE WANT. SELFISHLY SCHOOL WENT BACK. ONE A. YEAH. AND THEN 65 TRYING TO GET OUT OF 1 61. 
          AND I THINK WE'VE ALL HEARD COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC ABOUT TRYING TO INCREASE THE RETAIL AND RESTAURANT OPPORTUNITIES NORTH OF 1 61. UM. IT HASN'T HAPPENED ON ITS OWN. YOU KNOW, THERE THERE THERE ARE DEVELOPMENTS GOING IN THERE. NO ONE BOUGHT THE LAND TO DEVELOP IT FOR THAT PURPOSE. SO WE COULD AS A POSSIBILITY THAT THAT'S JUST GONNA NEVER HAPPEN. I MEAN, ARE YOU OKAY WITH HAVING WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE DEVELOPMENT THAT CORNER IF IT'S NOT THIS PROPOSAL THAN WHAT AGAIN. PUBLISHER. I DIDN'T MOVE OUT HERE TO BE AROUND A BUNCH OF PENGUINS DOWN HERE IN MISSISSIPPI WE'VE GOT TO BE CANDID. I CAN SEVEN MINUTES. UM 20 MINUTES FROM. ANYWHERE BETWEEN WESTERVILLE AND EASTERN. YOU KNOW IF I HADN'T HAD TO PUT SOMETHING THERE ISN'T WHAT'S ALREADY THERE. I DON'T KNOW WHY. WHAT IS ALREADY THERE SO UM. THE PARCEL PART TRAILS PLACES FOR KIDS TO GO PLAY. IT'S NOT PUTTING 200 DWELLING UNITS AND AGAIN EVERY PICTURE I'VE EVER SEEN WITH A PROPOSAL AROUND ON SITE OR PREFERRED CONCEPT DESIGN DIAGRAM. AS SOME ASSISTANCE. I THINK ABOUT THE BEST PLACES FOR MY KIDS TO RUN AROUND AND PLAY. 
          THAT'S THAT'S OKAY. WELL, THANK YOU, SIR. APPRECIATE IT, MR MCLENNAN. I DIDN'T GET YOUR ADDRESS. SORRY, 7073. MAYNARD PLACE EAST. THANKS, SIR. YEP COME BACK TO THE MIC. THANK YOU. 
          TRICIA. TRICIA PLEASE REINTRODUCE YOURSELF, SO I GET IT ON THE RECORDING. TRICIA'S MAGNINI. I JUST BROUGHT UP A QUESTION. SO WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CLARITY AND RESIDENTIAL DENSITY UM IN DEFINING WHAT WE WANT. IF WE WANT IT AT ALL 6 TO 1 PER ACRE IS THAT ON ALL 33 ACRES OR 6 TO 1, JUST FOR THE 75% OF THE DEVELOPED PORTION ANI UNDERSTAND MY READING IS THAT IT'S UNDER 75% DEVELOPED. SHOULD WE STATE THAT WE ARE GOING DOWN THIS PATH AT ALL? IN CITY ANSWER THAT ARE EXCUSE ME. OUR CODE REGULATIONS APPLIED DENSITY TO THE GROSS ACREAGE. SO THAT WOULD INCLUDE THE TOTAL ACREAGE. WHEN WE ASK QUESTIONS LIKE THAT, AND WE TALKED ABOUT RETIREMENT COMMUNITIES. WE'RE LOOKING. FOR THE LOOPHOLES THAT THE DEVELOPER MIGHT BE LOOKING FOR IN ORDER TO CRAM MORE PEOPLE ON THAT CORNER AND TAKE AWAY THE AMENITY AND THE REASON FOR THE SPACE FROM THE FIRST PLACE. I THINK THE QUESTION. MAKE SURE THE MICROPHONE IS COMING AGAIN. UM SO JUST SORT OF ON ON WHAT TRISH WAS POINTING OUT IS THAT IF YOU YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT GOING TO OBVIOUSLY BUILD ON 100% OF THE 33 ACRES THAT ARE THERE, RIGHT. SO IF YOU IF YOU TAKE THE 75% YOU FIGURE THAT ROUND NUMBERS. 20% IS GOING TO BE USED FOR COMMERCIAL PORTION OF THAT, THEN YOUR ACTUAL RESIDENTIAL DENSITY ON THE RESIDENTIAL ACREAGE IS 10% PER ACRE, ACTUALLY. I KNOW THAT IT'S AND THAT'S NOT BECAUSE YOUR MATH I MEAN, THAT'S THAT'S REAL NUMBERS. UM SO IF YOU TAKE YOU KNOW THE 33 ACRES AND YOU TAKE 75% OF THAT, AND YOU TAKE 80% OF THAT. MM YOU'RE DOWN TO AND YOU THAT'S 20 ACRES AND YOU'RE BUILDING A 198 UNITS. THAT'S ALMOST 10. FOOD 
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RESIDENTIAL E. LET'S KEEP THAT IN MIND AS YOU'RE LOOKING AT AT WHAT WHAT DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO SO THE THERE ARE CODE AND OUR GENERAL DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS. SO IT APPLIES WHETHER IT'S ANY TYPE OF RESIDENTIAL DENSITY. IT APPLIES THE RATIO TO THE GROSS ACREAGE SO IF IT WAS A TRADITIONAL SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD OUR PLAN WOULD RECOMMEND ONE UNIT BREAKER. SO IF YOU HAD 10 ACRES YOU COULD DO 10 UNITS AND THEN YOU WOULD TAKE OUT THE OPEN SPACE LIKE AFTER YOU APPLY THE DENSITY. THE SAME WAY HERE IF YOU HAD 10 ACRES, UM, JUST YOU KNOW WHAT IF SCENARIO FOR A HAMLET WITH A 6 TO 1 DEVELOPMENT THAT YOU COULD HAVE A MAXIMUM OF 60 UNITS? UH AND THEN YOU WOULD TAKE AWAY THE DENSITY. AND THAT'S WHY MOST RESIDENTIAL LOTS AND ARE SUBDIVISIONS ARE ACTUALLY LESS THAN AN ACRE. SO WE APPLY THAT DENSITY FIRST AND THAT SORT OF BACKS OUT ABOUT YOU KNOW, 0.7 YOU KNOW YOU ARE 0.7 ACRES PER UNIT TO TAKE OUT THE STREETS. UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT YOU KNOW AS YOU DO THE MATH, RIGHT? WINDSOR IS SEVEN UNITS PER ACRE. THIS WOULD BE THREE MORE MORE DENSE THAN WHAT WINDSOR IS BECAUSE I ASSUME YOU DID THE SAME THING IN WINDSOR WHERE YOU COUNTED THE GREAT BIG PART. YEAH IT'S THE SAME CALCULATION CALCULATION. I'M JUST SAYING IN TERMS OF PICTURING I KNOW THE LAST TIME WE HAD A THE PROPOSAL COUNSELOR . FELLOWS BROUGHT IN SOME BEAUTIFUL PICTURES OF HIM STANDING IN FRONT OF SOME BUILDINGS. TALK ABOUT SCALE. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE YOU KNOW. UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE SCALE IS AND YOU KNOW COMPARING IT WILL BE MORE DENSE RIGHT THEN. NO, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THAT INCORRECTLY FROM ON WHETHER THE ASSISTED LIVING UNIT IS THERE OR NOT, IT'S STILL GOING TO BE SIX UNITS PER ACRE. 
          YOU CAN'T ADD RESIDENTIAL BECAUSE THAT'S COMMERCIAL. SO JUST IF THAT GOES AWAY, YOU COULD ADD MORE COMMERCIAL. BUT YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO BUILD MORE RESIDENTIAL CORRECT, SUGGESTING THERE ARE MORE CORRECT UNITS. I'M STILL USING 198 UNITS, WHICH IS THE 70, WHICH IS THE 33 ACRES. TIMES SIX. RIGHT CORRECT AND I'M SAYING, BUT REALLY, THAT'S ONLY ON 20 OF THE ACRES BECAUSE ONCE YOU TAKE OUT 25% GREEN SPACE THAT'S NOT GONNA HAVE ANYTHING BUILT ON IT AND YOU TAKE UP. I'M JUST GROWING UP 20% IF I'M LOW ON THAT, THEN IT EVEN GETS WORSE FOR THE COMMERCIAL ASPECT OF THE PROPOSAL. NOW YOU HAVE 20 ACRES. WHICH YOU'RE PUTTING 198 UNITS ON. RIGHT, BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT THE AS ONE UNDERSTAND QUESTION, RIGHT? BUT I'M JUST SAYING IN TERMS OF WHAT IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE VERY YEAH. IN SECONDS. SO, CHRIS JUST FOR CLARIFICATION WHEN WE TALK ABOUT RESIDENTIAL, AND THEN IT'S COMMERCIAL SLASH RETAIL SHOULD. 
          SHOULD WE BREAK THOSE INTO THREE SEPARATE BUCKETS? IS THAT POSSIBLE? SO THAT WE DON'T RUN INTO THIS. I MEAN, HOW MANY USE THE WORD HERE? THAT'S PROBABLY INAPPROPRIATE. THIS TRAP OF SAYING COMMERCIAL RETAIL, AND THEY BUILD AN ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY. CALL IT COMMERCIAL, AND THEN THEY DON'T HAVE TO BUILD ANY ANY RETAIL BECAUSE THEY ARE PROTECTION THERE. YEAH. 
          WHAT IS OUR PROTECTION OF THAT? ENTER. HAVE THAT QUESTION THE NECESSARY ANSWER. DIRECTED THAT QUESTION. I DO THINK. 18 CENTRAL AGREEMENT. MHM YEAH, IT'S GOTTA BE. YOU GOTTA DRAW PEOPLE. YEAH. 
          MHM. SO I THINK WE NEED TO MAKE SURE IT AGAIN. WE'RE SAYING HAVE TO BE CERTAIN AMOUNT OF RETAIL. 
          ON THE GREEN. HOLD ON. OKAY, A TRAINING BASE, AND IT'S NOT THE STREAM BORDER. SPACE, SO TO MAKE SURE GUARANTEEING ONE. YEAH I MEAN THAT NIGHT, YOU KNOW THAT MIGHT HELP US AGAIN. BE CLEAR IN THE WORDS THAT WE USE THAT WE ARE. THERE IS AN EXPECTATION WITHIN THE DESIGN STANDARDS FROM THE SPEECHES PLAN. RETAIL CONCENTRATED IN CERTAIN AREA, AND THEN IT REPRESENTS A CERTAIN PERCENT OF THE TOTAL DEVELOPMENT . JUST LIKE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE RESIDENTIAL RETAIL COMPONENT IS CAN'T BE IGNORED. I THINK, AT LEAST FOR ME LIKE THAT'S THE ONLY REASON WE HAVE THIS CONVERSATION, THE RETAIL BASE, RIGHT? COMMERCIAL PIECES OF DIFFICULTY, ALSO SAYING. AROUND DOING IMPACTS CORRECT COURSE. DID WE PICK THE DID WE PICK THE ASSISTED LIVING JUST AS AN EXAMPLE BECAUSE OF THE DEVELOPER THAT WAS HERE? I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR PEOPLE TO KNOW. 
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AND MAYBE MAYBE WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE IT AS PART OF THIS, MAYBE IT NEEDS TO BE A COMMERCIAL PROJECT THAT THEY'RE ENTITLED TO DO IT THAT I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THE DEVELOPER, BUT I THINK PART OF THE REASON WAS AGAIN. IT'S NOT CANADA'S RESIDENTIAL. IT'S A LOW TRAFFIC ENTITY. RIGHT IT'S NOT GENEROUS STUDENTS, SO THERE'S A COMMERCIAL ASPECT OF IT. YOU DON'T HAVE A GREAT DEAL OF TRAFFIC FLOW. IT WAS AN OFFICE BUILDING, YOU KNOW. GOOD LUCK. YOU KNOW, EIGHT O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING. SO IT'S TO OUR ADVANTAGE TO DO IT. OKAY? THAT'S FAIR. GOOD. THINGS FROM THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL THAT WE RE EVALUATED WHEN WE WERE DOING THIS. NEW EXERCISE. THE HAMLET, UM WE DID DO SOME, UH, TESTING OF DIFFERENT SCENARIOS, INCLUDING SOME THAT DID INCLUDE RESIDENTIAL AND OTHER COMPONENTS SOUTH OF THE STREAM CORRIDOR, BUT TRADE OFFS, RIGHT. SO THEN, IF YOU DO THAT YOU'RE UM, NOT MEETING YOUR SISTER UNITS AN ACRE AND OTHER RIGHT. IT'S GETTING THAT TEST FIT THAT THERE WAS A CAPACITY STUDY TEST FIT SCENARIO THAT WE CAME UP WITH THAT BIG ONE WHAT WE SHOWED TONIGHT. AND WE FELT THAT THE ASSISTED LIVING. MET A LOT OF THE GOALS OF THE COMMUNITY AND A LOT OF THE GOALS AND COMPONENTS OF A HAMLET. AND SO THAT'S HOW THEY CARRIED IT FORWARD. I WILL ALSO NOTE THAT FOR THE CITY COMPARISON, THE WINDSOR AND OTHER EXAMPLES I SHOWED THOSE INCLUDED GREEN SPACE AND THEY WERE THE GREATEST AND SPEED THEORETICALLY COULD BE NINE OR 10 UNITS PER ACRE. IN OTHER WORDS, IN THE WINDSOR IF YOU TOOK THAT GREEN SPACE OUT AND JUST DID IT BY THE RESIDENTIAL I DON'T KNOW. I THINK IT WAS THE GENTLEMAN IN THE BACK THERE THAT MADE THE POINT. WHY DOES OUR VERB IT'S SAY SHOULD INSTEAD OF MUST BE A MINIMUM OF ONE LAWYER THAT UP ON THE NEXT LEFT. YEAH, DON'T WORRY ABOUT THAT. I GUESS . ONE THING TO KEEP IN MIND IS THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN CODE AND COMPREHENSIVE PLANS, SO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OR HOW WE CALLED A STRATEGIC PLAN THAT IS NOT CODIFIED. SO THAT IS MORE. 
          UM SHOULD HAVE WE TAKEN IT UP IN THE ORDINANCE. ORDINANCES ARE DIFFERENT AND YOU LOOK AT IT ORDINANCE AND YOU'RE GOING TO SEE SHALL SHALL NOT OKAY MUST UM AND SO THAT IS THE DIFFERENCE. 
          DISTINCTION IN LANGUAGE AND WORDS DO MATTER, SO I THINK THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT. BUT THERE IS A REASON BEHIND THAT IN THE D . J. R IS WHAT WE CALL THE D GRS DESIGN GUIDELINES AND REQUIREMENTS. GUIDELINES ALSO SUGGEST THAT THERE'S MORE SHOULD AND SHOULD NOT SEND THOSE. THEN THERE IS IN A CODIFIED ORDINANCE. AND SO THERE IS A REASON BEHIND THOSE THOSE WORD CHOICES AND I WOULD TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU IF THIS WAS A DESIGN STANDARD THAT HAD MULTIPLE APPLICATIONS. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A HAMLET. CORRECT VERY SPECIFIC, CORRECT. CORRECT BURBAGE IS IN THE ORDINANCE. THAT IT SAYS MUST OKAY WITH IT SAYING SHOULD AND THERE'S AS LONG AS IT'S SOMEWHERE. THIS IS A VERY SPECIFIC APPLICATION, BUT WE'RE STILL DEALING WITH THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN YOU KNOW ENTITLEMENT RIGHTS THAT A REZONING WHERE YOU'RE APPLYING CODE VERSUS GIVING DIRECTION TO SOMEONE ABOUT WHAT YOU KNOW THE CITY'S INTENT IS ON A PROPERTY GOTCHA. GREAT ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL. ALRIGHT THEN THE RESOLUTION. UM WE'VE HAD THE PUBLIC HEARING YOU GO BACK TO MY AGENDA. WHERE ARE WE? AND CONDUCT AN HOUR IN NEW ORLEANS. OKAY? THE RESOLUTION ARE 25 22 ANY ADDITIONAL PUBLIC COMMENT FROM ANYONE THAT DIDN'T FILL OUT A SPEAKER CARD? NO OKAY , THEN I'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE A MOTION ON THE RESOLUTION? UM I WOULD MOVE TO TABLE THE RESOLUTION UNTIL THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING SO WE CAN HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO CLEAN UP SOME OF THE BIGGER ITEMS LANGUAGE, BUT I THINK THE BIGGEST ONE IS THE BOUNDARIES. I THINK WE'RE GONNA APPROVE THIS RESOLUTION LIKE TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THE BOUNDARIES WILL BE SECOND WELL, THE COMMENT WOULD BE IS THAT SUFFICIENT TIME? TWO WEEKS TO DO ALL THIS? YES OR SHOULD IT BE A MONTH WITH THE FIRST SAYING YES . THE FIRST ORDINANCE TWO. IT'S GONNA BE A SECOND THE SAME TIME, RIGHT? IT DOESN'T IT DOESN'T LIMIT OUR AVAILABILITY TO TABLE IT FURTHER IF NEEDED, OKAY. SO THAT WAS MOVED AND SECONDED TO TABLE THIS UNTIL OUR NEXT COUNCIL MEETING COUNCIL MEMBER SHOCK. YEAH REMEMBER, CAST? YES SORRY. MAYOR SPAULDING. YES COUNCIL MEMBER? BRISK YES. COUNCIL MEMBER THERE? YES FELLAS . YES YES, YES. FIRST TABLE RESOLUTION WOULD ALSO VOTE YES, YOU'RE STILL HERE. IT'S A LITTLE 
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NICE. THE LONG WAY DOWN HERE. SIX AND NOW I HAVE SEVEN. YES TABLE RESOLUTION ARE 25 2022. WE CERTAINLY THANK ALL THE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION ENGAGING IN CIVIC PROCESS AGAIN APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S INPUT AND BEING RESPECTFUL FOR THE PROCESS. YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALL WORLD TRYING TO DO OUR BEST TRYING TO DO THE RIGHT THING. JUST, YOU KNOW. THIS WILL THIS WILL BE BETTER WITH MORE PARTICIPATION. IT ALWAYS IS. AND WE JUST REALLY APPRECIATE IT. SO THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT RESOLUTION ARE 26 2020 TO A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE AUTHORIZED THE EXECUTION OF THE COMMUNITY REINVESTMENT AREA AGREEMENT WITH FORM PROVIDE LLC AND MAKING RELATED AUTHORIZATIONS. WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO GO BACK TO THE OLD SLIDE SHOWS, OKAY? YEAH. AND OUR REFERENCE FROM. FORMATIVE I JUST GOT AN INTRODUCTION TO CIVIC ENGAGEMENT AS WELL. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TODAY. THANK YOU FOR THE MORNING RUSHED AS USING YEAH, ACTUALLY HAVING TO VOICEMAIL PROBLEM. SAVE THEM SAVE HIM. THAT'S COKIE. MAD END. 
          ARE YOU PRAISING? YOU WANT TO WEAR MY CHECK? ARE YOU GUYS FREEZING? NO, IT'S JUST RIGHT HERE. IT'S LITERALLY LITERALLY YOUR SEAT. NOW THIS ONE. IT'S THE WHEN I COME TO PLANNING. 
          WHEN I COME TO PLANNING COMMISSION. I WEAR EXTRA CLOTHING ALREADY GOT THREE SEATS COLD GOING TO DIE HERE. YEAH. IS THERE A STRAIGHT DEALING ALONE IS THERE TIME TO TAKE EARLY. YOU WANT TO DO THAT, OR JUST KEEP GOING. ANYONE ELSE BATHROOM TRYING TO READ THE ROOM? YEAH MAKE IT MAKE IT FIRST. YELLOW LIKE THIS POOR GUY'S LET THOSE GUYS I'M SURE THIS NEXT YEAR QUICK RESOLUTIONS. I HOPE YOU'RE PAID BY THE HOUR. EXACTLY. VERY SAD. MR MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL TONIGHT WE PRESENT A PROJECT WITH FORM OF I HAVE A PIONEER IN THE HEALTH AND WELLNESS INDUSTRY THAT DEVELOPS MANUFACTURERS. DEVELOPS AND MANUFACTURES INNOVATIVE VITAMIN AND SUPPLEMENTAL SOLUTIONS, BACKED BY SCIENCE AND ADHERE TO STRICT MANUFACTURING PROCESSES. 
          YOU KNOW THEM WITH BRANDS SUCH AS NATURE MADE EQUAL IT CORA MEGA FOOD AND NOURISHED BY MAJOR NATURE MADE. THE COMPANY TONIGHT IS INITIALLY PROPOSING TO INVEST APPROXIMATELY $200 MILLION IN CAPITAL. TO DEVELOP A 200,000 TO 225,000 SQUARE FOOT MANUFACTURING FACILITY ON THE NORTH SIDE OF JUG STREET, JUST WEST OF HARRISON ROAD. THE FACILITY WILL SUPPORT GUMMY MANUFACTURING AND PACKAGING OPERATIONS AS WELL AS SERVED AS THE GUMMY INNOVATION CENTER OF EXCELLENCE THE COMPANY COMPANY EXPECTS TO EMPLOY APPROXIMATELY 225 POSITIONS. WITH AN ANNUAL PAYROLL OF APPROXIMATELY $14.7 MILLION BY DECEMBER. 31ST 2029. THIS RESOLUTION AUTHORIZES THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A COMMUNITY REINVESTMENT AREA AGREEMENT. WITH FORM OF ID LLC. 
          THE AGREEMENT PROVIDES FOR A 100% REAL PROPERTY TAX ABATEMENT FOR UP TO THE 1ST 15 CONSECUTIVE TAXABLE YEARS FOR EACH BUILDING OR PHASE OF THE PROJECT. AS WITH ALL OTHER RECENT PROJECTS, THIS EXEMPTION GRANTED IN THE AGREEMENT IS CONDITIONED ON THE PROJECT, GENERATING A MINIMUM QUALIFIED PAYMENT AMOUNT ANNUALLY TO THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY. FOR A YEAR IN WHICH THE QUALIFIED PAYMENTS ARE LESS THAN THE MINIMUM REQUIRED PAYMENT AMOUNT. FOR THAT YEAR. THE COMPANY SHALL BE REQUIRED TO MAKE AN ADDITIONAL PAYMENT TO THE CITY TO MEET THAT REVENUE. 
          BENCHMARK. JOINED TODAY HERE BY RAY GOSLIN, EXECUTIVE VICE PRESIDENT AND CHIEF SUPPLY CHAIN IN IT, OFFICER WHO IS HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT COUNCIL MIGHT HAVE. SO REGGIE FLYING FROM CALIFORNIA FOR THIS ACTUALLY MADE MAIN TO L. A FROM MAINE. SO THAT'S UH NOT SURE TO GET FURTHER AWAY. BUT YOU KNOW WHAT? I WAS THAT CLOSE TO ARCADIA PARK AND PROBABLY STATED ABSOLUTELY, UH MAYOR SPAULDING AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL TO INTRODUCED MYSELF AND. ON BEHALF OF THE ENTIRE FORM OF VIOLENCE. 18. TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION TONIGHT IN THE 
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RESOLUTION. THIS RESOLUTION. FOR THE COMMUNITY REINVESTMENT. ENABLES US TO BUILD STATE OF THE ART MANUFACTURING DEVELOPMENT CENTER. AND AS PART OF VIBRANT AND GROWING COMPANY. WANT TO INVOLVEMENT EVEN LEARNED FOR ABOUT WHAT YOU ALL DOING HERE? WE JUST THOUGHT IT'S A FANTASTIC MATCH. AS WE LOOKED AT PARTICULARLY FOUR PILLARS THAT YOU HAVE AND BEING A COMPANY THAT IS REALLY SERIOUS ABOUT GAUGING IN THE COMMUNITIES IN WHICH WE WORK. BEING PART OF THE COMMUNITY AND CONTRIBUTING TO THE COMMUNITY. WE LOOKED AT THE HEALTH AND WELLNESS PILLAR. WE LOOKED AT THE LIFELONG EDUCATION PILLAR. WE LOOK AT THE SUSTAINABILITY PILLAR HAS THREE GREAT AREAS WHERE WE FEEL TRIBUTE. COOPERATE WITH YOU. REALLY BE REAL CONTRIBUTION TO THE SCHOOL. SO THANK YOU FOR INCINERATION. RESOLUTION TONIGHT CERTAINLY CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. YOU MIGHT HAVE IT. THAT'S WELL, YOU GUYS HAVE THE BEST GUMMIES IN THE INDUSTRY. 
          DID YOU BRING ANY SAMPLES TONIGHT? LITTLE HUNGRY HERE CLOSE TO 11 REASONS WE'RE BUILDING THIS FACTORY IS HAVING A HECK OF A TIME KEEPING BUT I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU IF YOU PUT SOME RETAIL IN OUR HAMLET. IT'S A GREAT PROBLEM TO HAVE AND OUR PURPOSE IS A COMPANY IS TO BRING THE GIFT OF HEALTH TO LIFE AND SO WE HAVE A GREAT TEAM WORK FORCE THAT JUST LOVES TO HELP PEOPLE NEED HELP. REALLY HOPE THAT WE GET. LOVELY ARCS. WHEN ARE WE EXPECTING THE GROUNDBREAKING FOR THIS PROJECT PLAN WOULD BE THIS FALL. WITH GOING SCALING UP PRODUCTION. 
          FALL OF 2020. THEY WILL SCALE FROM THERE AND ARE SIZING. WE ARE PLAN ON PLA SIGNIFICANT SIZE, BUT SUCH THAT WE HAVE ROOM TO EXPAND THE FACILITY. OR THE FACILITIES. ALABAMA, LANDLOCKED. 
          HAVE NO PRESENCE IN. WEST AND NORTHEAST. SO WE SEE THIS AS A AS AN ANGER FOR US. THIS PART OF THE COUNTRY. AND IMPORTANTLY, ONE THAT WE CAN EXPAND OVER. BUT THE PROJECTED 225 POSITIONS WITH THE PROJECTED ANDREW CUADRILLA 14.7 THAT'S BASED ON ACTUAL COMMITTED PROJECTS, RIGHT. SO THAT'S KIND OF UNFAIR QUESTION, BUT I'M ASSUMING YOU PLAYED A ROLE IN THE SITE SELECTION AND MEN FINAL DETERMINATION TO COME TO ALBANY. CAN YOU JUST SHARE WITH THIS ONE REASON WHY? WHY? WHY, HERE INSTEAD OF SOMEWHERE DOWN THE ROAD. WELL WE LOOKED AT 70 MARKETS, SO TO GIVE YOU SOME SENSE FROM MILWAUKEE TO SCREENED IN ST LOUIS, TOO. PHILIP WE AS WE WILL THAT DOWN. WE GOT TO MARKETS AND WE LOOKED AT. LABOR SCALABILITY TALENTS AVAILABLE. COLLEGES, EDUCATIONAL SYSTEMS UNIVERSITIES. WE LOOKED AT THE COST STRUCTURES. AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHEN WE GOT THE FINAL SELECTION, IT HAD TO BE WITH THE COMMUNITY WHERE WE FELT WE WOULD BE WELCOME. AND WHERE WE COULD VERY EARNESTLY. PARTICIPATE AND BE A VITAL PART OF AND WE JUST FELT THAT FROM OUR EARLIER DISCUSSION VOLUNTEERS HAVE DONE A FANTASTIC JOB. REPRESENTING. SO IT ENDED UP BEING A VERY EASY DECISION FOR US THAT THIS IS THE PLACE WHERE WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO WELCOME UNITY COMMUNITY. UM ABSOLUTELY GOT TO VOTE ON THIS MOTION OR RATHER BUT BREAKING GROUND. PLEASE PLEASE TELL JEFF BRUTAL AND TOBY COHEN HAS SAID HELLO, OLD FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS , BUT WELCOME WELCOME THEM BACK TO OHIO. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALRIGHT ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON RESOLUTION? LET'S SEE WHAT NUMBER 1 26 2022 HEARING. NO PUBLIC COMMENT WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC AREA AND I WOULDN'T MOVE FOR THE ADOPTION OF RESOLUTION. OUR 26 2ND LOOK AT THAT SEVEN SECONDS, SIX SECONDS. MAYOR SPAULDING YES, YES. COUNCIL MEMBER WILL TRAP YES. COUNCIL MEMBER KISSED FIRST. YES YES, YES. YES, FOLKS THROUGH THAT RESOLUTION ARE 26 2022. THANKS. 
          CONGRATULATIONS. LOOK FORWARD TO A LOT OF FUTURE ENGAGEMENT. WELCOME. THANK YOU FOR SITTING THROUGH. YEAH WE'RE SORRY ABOUT THAT LONG WAS GOING TO SAY, HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT A HANDLER THAN 
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YOU WANT TO KNOW? ARE YOU LOOKING FOR SOMEWHERE TO, YOU KNOW HAVE WHEN YOU'RE IN TOWN THAT'S RIGHT APARTMENT. YEAH WE'RE GONNA ACCOMMODATE THAT. ALRIGHT RESOLUTION ARE 27 2020 TO A RESOLUTION APPROVING AND AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION OF THE COMMUNITY REINVESTMENT AREA AGREEMENT WITH A L NEAR R. E L C AND MAKING RELATED AUTHORIZATIONS. MR MAYOR, MAYOR , MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. THIS RESOLUTION IS TO APPROVE A COMMUNITY REINVESTMENT AREA AGREEMENT WITH AL NEAR AL NEAR REAL ESTATE LLC. THIS AGREEMENT PROVIDES FOR 100% REAL PROPERTY TAX ABATEMENT FOR UP TO 15 CONSECUTIVE YEARS FOR EACH BUILDING OR STRUCTURE COMPRISING EACH PHASE OF THE PROJECT. AS WITH ALL OF THE RECENT PROJECTS, THIS EXEMPTION GRANTS GRANTED IS CONDITIONED ON THE PROJECT GENERATING AND MINIMUM QUALIFIED PAYMENT AMOUNT, WHICH AS THE PROJECT BEFORE IF THERE'S A SHORTFALL IN ANY QUALIFYING PAYMENT YEAR, THERE'S A REQUIREMENT THAT AN ADDITIONAL PAYMENT TO BE MADE TO THE CITY TO MEET THE REVENUE. BENCHMARK. 
          ON THE AIR IS A COMPANY NAMED THAT YOU MIGHT KNOW THEY CAME TO COUNCIL LAST FALL FOR A MORE THAN 500,000 SQUARE FOOT MANUFACTURING AND DISTRIBUTION CENTER ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF SMITH'S MILL ROAD. JUST NEAR THE ABERCROMBIE AND FITCH DISTRIBUTION CENTERS. THEY'VE COME BACK WITH A NEW PROJECT ON THE NORTH SIDE OF SMITH'S MILL, JUST EAST OF ABERCROMBIE'S DISTRIBUTION CENTER. THEY'RE BETWEEN ABERCROMBIE AND THE FACILITY. UM THEY ARE PROPOSING A 219,000 SQUARE FOOT SINGLE NOTED SPECULATIVE INDUSTRIAL BUILDING. UM AT THIS PROJECT SITES AND ARE PROPOSING TO INVEST APPROXIMATELY $21.1 MILLION TO PURCHASE THE PROPERTY FROM ABERCROMBIE INTO CONSTRUCTIVE BUILDING. CONSTRUCTION IS EXPECTED TO BEGIN THIS FALL AND TO BE COMPLETED BY MAY OF NEXT YEAR. UM AT THIS TIME, THE APPLICANT ESTIMATES THAT THERE WILL BE APPROXIMATELY 188 POSITIONS WITH AN ANNUAL PAYROLL OF APPROXIMATELY $6.6 MILLION TO BE CREATED AT THE PROJECT SITE. BY DECEMBER. 31 2026. I'M JOINED TODAY HERE IS WITH BY BRIAN YANG YANG, MANAGER OF REAL ESTATE FOR AL MEYER, WHO IS HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT COUNCIL MIGHT HAVE I SEE THAT THE CURRENT SIDE IS WELL UNDERWAY. LOTS OF EQUIPMENT OUT THERE MOVING SOME DIRT AROUND AND COMPACTING AS I WROTE BUYBACK PASTOR YESTERDAY. 
          IT'S COMING ALONG PRETTY QUICKLY WRITE AND RECORD SPEED FOR SURE. NEAR SPALDING. MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR HAVING ME TODAY. THIS HAS BEEN A FASCINATING YEAH. SO KEEP THIS BRIEF. MIKE SAID. THIS IS OUR SECOND BUILDING IN THE CITY, SO WE'RE VERY HAPPY TO BRING INVESTMENT HERE TO THE COMMUNITY BY STEPHEN BREASTS HAVE BEEN GREAT TO WORK WITH REALLY ENJOYED. OUR MEETINGS WITH THEM AS MANY AS WE HAD, UM AND SO WE LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR CONSIDERATION AND THANK YOU FOR HAVING US. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL WAREHOUSING OR JUST BUSINESS? SPECULATIVE BUILDING, OR IS IT MOSTLY GONNA BE WAREHOUSING? RIGHT NOW. IT'S A SINGLE LOADED SPEC BUILDING. THAT'S RIGHT. THANK ONLY ONE QUESTION. HOW MANY ACRES ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? I DIDN'T SEE THAT IN HERE. THINK THAT ONE IS 25 JUST ABOUT 25 ACRES, BUT ABOUT HALF OF IT IS A CONSERVATION EASEMENT. OKAY ON THE NORTH SIDE APPRECIATE ON THE EAST SIDE? YEAH IN YOUR ORIGINAL BUILDING, UH, SPECULATIVE AS WELL. THAT'S RIGHT. HAVE YOU ENABLE THEM TO GET TENANTS FOR THAT BUILDING. AS OF YET, OR YOU'RE STILL WE'RE STILL LOOKING. WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH JACKIE RUSSELL AND MIKE. YEAH I WILL SAY WE'VE SEEN WE'RE SUBMITTING THAT PROJECT THAT THAT FIRST NEW ALBANY COMMERCE ONE IS THE NAME OF THAT PROJECT ON THE S THAT FOR A LOT OF SITE SELECTION LEADS RIGHT NOW. AS YOU MIGHT IMAGINE, THIS MARKET IS STILL SEEING A LOT OF DEMAND FOR INDUSTRIAL SPECTRUM OBJECT OR PRODUCT. SO WE HOPE WE HOPE TO SECURE ATTENDANT WITH YOUR ASSISTANCE. THANK YOU FOR THAT. ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL. RIGHT. THANK YOU, SIR. WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC. NO COMMENT WILL CLOSE. THE PUBLIC HEARING IS VERY MOTION ON THE RESOLUTION MOVE. ADOPTION RESOLUTION ARE 27 2021 2022 SORRY. SECOND. COUNCIL MEMBER SHELL. YES YES. COUNCIL MEMBER WILL TRAVEL YES. YES YES, YES! YES SEVEN. YES, FIRST FOR THAT RESOLUTION, 27. HOPEFULLY YOU'RE STAYING NEARBY. YEAH. DRIVING BACK HOME. ALL RIGHT. LOVELY NEW. NO NEW HOTELS AROUND HERE. 
          YEAH. OH NO, OKAY. OKAY WOW. RESOLUTION ARE 28 2022, OR RESOLUTION APPROVING AND 
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AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION OF AN AMENDMENT TO A DEVELOPMENT SUPPLY GREEN WITH SAD CAT L C AND MAKING RELATED AUTHORIZATIONS. THANK YOU, MR MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. SO AS THE TITLE SUGGESTS, THIS IS TO AMEND THE DEVELOPMENT AND SUPPLY AGREEMENT WITH SIDE CAT LLC, ALSO KNOWN AS FACEBOOK, NOW WITH THE PARENT COMPANY MET A SO AS YOU MIGHT REMEMBER, BACK IN 2017 , THE CITY ENTERED INTO THIS AGREEMENT WITH SIDE CAT THAT MADE SOME AUTHORIZATIONS ON BEHALF OF THE CITY AND AFFIRMED IN A COUPLE OF WAYS. THE AVAILABILITY OF WATER AND SANITARY SEWER SERVICE CAPACITY. WE LATER AMENDED THAT AGREEMENT IN, UH, THE SPRING OF 2019 TO INCLUDE AN ADDITIONAL 413 ACRES DEVELOPMENT THAT WAS LATER PURCHASED BY THE COMPANY. TO THE SOUTH AND TO THE EAST OF THE ORIGINAL PROJECT SITE. IN THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. 
          THE PROVISION OF WATER AND SANITARY SEWER VOLUMES WERE DEFINED ON A PER BUILDING BASIS. 
          RIGHT AND SO THIS AMENDMENT DOES A COUPLE OF THINGS. THIS AMENDMENT ALLOWS THE EXPANSION OF THE PROJECT SITE AS YOU MIGHT REMEMBER. IN APRIL OF THIS YEAR , FACEBOOK PARENT META ANNOUNCED PLANS TO EXPAND ITS ITS NEW ALBANY DATA CENTER PRESENCE BY ADDING TWO BUILDINGS. TOTALING APPROXIMATELY ONE MILLION SQUARE FEET. AND BRINGING THEIR TOTAL INVESTMENT IN OUR COMMUNITY TO MORE THAN $1.5 BILLION. WHICH THEY EXPECT TO HOPEFULLY DELIVER THE FIRST BUILDING IN 2026 THE LATER ONE IN 2028. WHAT THIS DOES, IS IT IT? UM IT INCREASES THE PORTABLE EXCUSE ME POTABLE POSSIBLE WATER DEMAND TO 1.4 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY. AND IT SETS A PER MINUTE VOLUME OF 4000 GALLONS PER MINUTE FOR TWO HOURS. IT ALSO SETS A NEW DEMAND DEFINED FOR THE ENTIRE SITE. 
          MIND YOU NOT JUST PER BUILDING, SO IT'S GETTING AWAY FROM THAT PER BUILDING FIGURE, AND NOW IT'S SETTING NEW DEMAND FIGURES FOR THE ENTIRE SITE. OF THE ABILITY TO TREAT AND TRANSPORT WASTEWATER TOTALING APPROXIMATELY 800,000 GALLONS PER DAY. THIS ALSO DEFINES CAPACITY FOR, UM. FIRE SUPPRESSION AND SPRINKLER SERVICE THAT WASN'T DEFINED IN THE ORIGINAL AGREEMENT. SO FROM THE COMPANY'S PERSPECTIVE, THIS AMENDMENT PROVIDES FOR THAT NEW REQUIREMENT RELATED TO FIRE SUPPRESSION. ADJUST THE COMPANY WATER AND SEWER NEEDS. FROM THE PER BUILDING VALUES TO TOTAL FIXED VOLUMES FOR THE ENTIRE PROJECT SITE AGAIN. THIS IS MORE THAN 400 ACRES LARGER THAN THE INITIAL PROPOSED AGREEMENT. THANKS IN PART TO THAT FIRST AMENDMENT THAT ADDED THOSE ADDITIONAL SITES. AND THIS AMENDMENT IS A SIMPLE WAY TO ACCOUNT FOR THE INCREASE. UM THAT INCREASE THAT WAS ALREADY PLANNED FOR I SHOULD MENTION AND EMPHASIZE THAT THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY HAD PLANNED AND MODELED FOR THAT ADDITIONAL WATER AND SEWER DEMAND WITH OUR PARTNERS AT M H AND T. BUT THIS NEW NEW AMENDMENT EXPLICITLY DEFINES THIS COMPANY NEEDS IN IN ABSOLUTE VOLUME TERMS. IN EXCHANGE FOR THIS, THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY HAS ASKED FOR A COUPLE OF THINGS TO CONSIDER IN THE COMPANY HAS AGREED TO THAT, INCLUDING A REAL TIME WATER CONSUMPTION. TRACKING SYSTEM SO THAT WE CAN HAVE GOOD DATA AND, UH, AND WORK WITH THEM COLLABORATIVELY IN CASE YOU KNOW, THERE'S UH, THEY'RE THEY'RE FAR UNDER UTILIZING THEIR THEIR THEIR REQUIRED DEMANDS. UM, ADDITIONALLY, UM, WE'VE ASKED FOR SOME TEMPORARY AND OR PERMANENT EASEMENTS ALONG HARRISON ROAD AND MORRIS ROAD. 
          TO BE MADE AVAILABLE TO US ON COMMERCIALLY REASONABLE TERMS TO MAKE POTENTIAL UTILITY SYSTEM IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE STILL IN DESIGN. I CAN'T GET INTO THAT TOO MUCH RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THEY'RE STILL IN DESIGN, BUT WE WANTED TO KIND OF LEAVE THE DOOR OPEN WITH THE COMPANY, AND THEY AGREED TO MAKE THOSE ADJUSTMENTS. LASTLY AS PART OF THIS AMENDMENT. WE'VE BEEN HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH THE COMPANY. AND WE MAY CHOOSE TO EXPLORE TOGETHER A POSSIBLE WATER RECLAMATION EFFORT TO SUPPORT CONTINUED EXPANSION OF THE NEW ALBANY BUSINESS PARK. 
          THE COMPANY. I SHOULD POINT OUT HAS ALREADY TAKEN SOME STEPS THAT WOULD MAKE THIS INVESTMENT MORE ACHIEVABLE IN THE FUTURE. SO AT THIS TIME, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE FIRST DATA CENTER BUILDING CONSTRUCTED ALL OTHER BUILDINGS ON THE SITE SEPARATE POTABLE WATER FROM ALL WATER USED IN THE COOLING OPERATIONS AND HAVING THAT DIVISION ALLOWS THE COMPANY IN THE CITY TO POTENTIALLY RECLAIM A PORTION OF THEIR WASTEWATER FOR REUSE, EITHER ON SITE. OR 
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ELSEWHERE AND MAY OVERALL REDUCED THEIR THEIR EVENTUAL DEMAND FROM THE 1.8 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY. BUT AGAIN, THE INTENT OF THIS AMENDMENT IS TO SET THESE NEW TOTAL SITE VOLUMES FOR POTABLE WATER AND NEW WASTEWATER TREATMENT AND TO SET A VOLUME FOR FIRE SUPPRESSION. 
          HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. MHM UH, THE NEW BUILDINGS ARE THEY ALSO GOING TO BE THE DATA CENTERS. YES AND I'M ASSUMING ALL THE WATER THAT THEY'RE USING THIS FOR COOLING. 
          PURPOSES MOST OF IT YES. THE VAST MAJORITY OF IT, YES. MY QUESTION WOULD BE WE HAVE THE CAPACITY. THERE'S NOT A CAPACITY ISSUE TO PROVIDE WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR. THERE IS NOT. 
          THERE'S NOT BECAUSE WE'VE MODELED IT ALREADY. THIS WAS PLANNED FOR WHEN WE WERE INITIALLY WORKING WITH THE COMPANY ON THEIR FIRST AMENDMENT. WHEN WE PURSUED THAT FIRST AMENDMENT, WE WORKED WITH THE EMERGENCY TO MODEL THAT ADDITIONAL DEMAND. WE JUST NEVER UPDATED OR AGREEMENT. WE KEPT THAT PER BUILDING NUMBER IN THERE. WHICH WE ESTIMATED, HOWEVER MANY BUILDINGS COULD BE COULD BE CONSTRUCTED, BUT WE'VE ALREADY KIND OF PLANNED FOR THIS VOLUME. UNDERSTAND THAT, AND I'M NOT CHALLENGING YOUR ENGINEERING STUDIES OR ITS STANDARDS, BUT, UM, FROM WHEN WE STARTED THE FIRST BUILDING SEVERAL YEARS AGO AND WHERE WE ARE TODAY, CERTAINLY A LOT HAS CHANGED IN NEW ALBANY IN TERMS OF WATER UTILIZATION, BUILDINGS, FACILITIES, ETCETERA. AND I JUST WANT TO BE CERTAIN THAT WE HAVE THE CAPACITY. TO LIVE TO THAT AGREEMENT. AT THE END, THE CITY OF COLUMBUS HAS THE CAPACITY TO GIVE US THAT THAT'S THE ONLY QUESTION. THAT'S MY BIGGEST. THINK YOU'RE YOU'RE YOU'RE MORE CONCERNED ABOUT MAYBE NOT SO MUCH TODAY, BUT PROBABLY IN ABOUT 3 TO 5 YEARS. THERE'S MORE BUILDINGS COMING ON. THEY HAVE ADDITIONAL, YOU KNOW, AND ARE WE GOING TO BE ABLE TO SATISFY SOMETHING THAT WE'RE AGREEING TO? CAUSE THAT WAS MY QUESTION TO ITS MORE IN THAT 2025 TO 2030 WHEN WE SEE OTHER POTENTIAL HIGH UTILIZATION, UTILIZATION OF WATER CAPACITY COMING ONLINE. WE'RE PLANNING FOR THAT. 
          SENSUALITY. AS THINGS STAND TODAY WITH ALL OF OUR PROJECTIONS FOR FUTURE DEMAND, BASED ON TEACHER DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES, CENSORSHIP. WORRIED ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS REGARDING THE RESOLUTION. AND WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC LIKE TO SPEAK REGARDING RESOLUTION ARE 28. ARENAL COMMENT WILL CLOSE. THE PUBLIC HEARING IS VERY EMOTIONAL. THE RESOLUTION MOVE. ADOPTION OF RESOLUTION ARE 28 2022. SECOND. COUNCIL MEMBER FELLOWS. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER KISS? YES COUNCIL MEMBER DEREK? YES RISK? YES SPALDING COUNCIL MEMBER. WELL, CHILD MEMBER, CHARLES. YES YES, MONTHS TO THAT RESOLUTION ARE 28 2022. CHANGE BEAR WITH ME ON THIS ONE, A RESOLUTION TO AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO AN ANNEXATION AGREEMENT WITH JERSEY TOWNSHIP IN ORDER TO FACILITATE THE ANNEXATION OF PARCELS NUMBERS. ZERO THREE 7-1 1 TWO FIVE FOUR TWO DASH THE RESERVE 2-0.0 037 DOT AS 112044-00 37.0.1. ZERO THREE 7-1 37.0.0.0. 037-11. 0.0. THREE 7-1 0.0.2. OKAY 037-112. 0.4 YOU COULD HAVE DONE THIS ONE LAST MEETING 037-112. 10.5. 037-11. POINT 009037-11. 0.0.37. 0.0.0.8. 
          037-110. 2044-00 0.7. 037-1120. 0.6 AND 037-112. 050-00. WHICH COMPROMISE COMPRISE. EXCUSE ME, 
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APPROXIMATELY 60 ACRES CLUSTER MINUS MINUS. SO ALL THAT WORK FOR 60 ACRES. I HATE TO BE THAT GUY, BUT I THINK YOU MISSED A ZERO PICKED YOU UP. SOMETHING REALLY NICE TO SAY. I'M OKAY WITH EVERYTHING BUT THAT MIDDLE PARCEL I DON'T WANT THAT ONE. ALRIGHT. JOE TAKES AWAY. THANK YOU. SO WE HAVE I BELIEVE 15 PARCELS UNDER THE OWNERSHIP. I THINK 12 OR 13 OWNERS. THIS IS A LITTLE BIT UNIQUE IN TERMS OF, UM THE STRUCTURE OF THIS REQUEST. WE HAVE THESE INDIVIDUAL OWNERS WHO HAVE APPROACHED THE CITY THEY THEY'VE GOTTEN TOGETHER, THEY HIRED A REAL ESTATE BROKER TO TRY TO MARKET THEIR PROPERTY. SO TYPICALLY, WE WOULD GET A PARCEL AND AN ANNEXATION REQUESTS BY A SINGLE OWNER. AND THIS IS WHY WE HAVE TO READ ALL OF THESE PARCELS TONIGHT. THIS IS OUR STANDARD INTERGOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVE WITH JERSEY TOWNSHIP. ALL OF THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS ARE THE SAME AS THOSE WHICH WE APPROVED. 
          WE'VE WE'VE WE'VE REQUIRE A AND ANNEXATION AGREEMENT BECAUSE WE USE AN EXPEDITED TYPE ONE ANNEXATION OF MOUTH. AND THAT REQUIRES AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE TOWNSHIP MUNICIPALITY RELATIVE TO HOW THE ANNEXATION WILL BE ADDRESSED HOW THINGS LIKE REVENUE SHARING WILL BE ADDRESSED. IF THERE ARE ANY ISSUES RELATIVE TO INFRASTRUCTURE, ROAD MAINTENANCE. ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE ADDRESSED IN THIS AGREEMENT. SO WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE'VE STRUCTURED OUR REVENUE SHARING WITH THE TOWNSHIP SO THAT IS EFFECTIVELY OPERATES AS A. 
          EFFECTIVELY AS A THE EQUIVALENT OF ANNOUNCE. COOL TIP. SO THIS IS A NON FIRE AND E M S. 
          ARRANGEMENT SO IF WE TIP THE PROPERTY WE COMPENSATE THE TOWNSHIP FOR WHAT THEY WOULD HAVE RECEIVED. IN TERMS OF PROPERTY TAX REVENUE FOR FIRING AMS SERVICES. ALSO IF WE WERE TO EVER CONFORMED BOUNDARIES IT TALKS ABOUT THERE'S A RIP RIP REFERENCE BACK TO THE R C. AND WE FOLLOW THE RC REQUIREMENTS FOR THE CONFORMANCE BOUNDARIES. THAT'S IN THERE, IN CASE WE WOULD NEVER WANT TO EXERCISE THAT IF OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH THE TOWNSHIP EVERY DETERIORATED. 
          HOPEFULLY THAT WILL NEVER NEVER BE NECESSARY. UM. JERSEY TOWNSHIP PLANS TO CONSIDER THIS TOMORROW AT THEIR MEETING. WOW. THE. UM OF THE ONLY OTHER POINT I WANTED TO MAKE IS THAT WE USE THE EXPEDITED TYPE ONE BECAUSE WE'VE CONSTRUCTED THE TERMS TO REFLECT THE STANDARD ANNEXATION AGREEMENT. THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE EXPEDITED AND THE STANDARD IS THAT THE EXPEDITED TAKES SIGNIFICANTLY. SHORTER AMOUNT OF TIME AS OPPOSED TO THE TRADITIONAL ANNEXATION, WHICH TYPICALLY REQUIRES THE NINE MONTHS TO A YEAR. THAT'S ALL I HAVE TERM ON. THIS IS 50 YEARS IT CAN. IT HAS AN AUTOMATIC RENEWAL PROVISION MUST THE PARTIES CHOOSE NOT TO. LAST I GUESS I SHOULD HAVE STARTED WITH THIS. THE EAST PARCELS ARE LOCATED WEST OF HARRISON'S SOUTH OF JUDGE. AND NORTH OF INNOVATION, CAMPUS WAY. YOU ANTICIPATE JERSEY TOWNSHIP HAVING ANY ISSUE WITH THE ANNEXATION BASED ON MY CONVERSATIONS? I DON'T BELIEVE GOOD. ARE THEY PLANNING ON HOLDING THE PROPERTY? OR IS THIS CURRENTLY BEING MARKETED? IT'S CURRENTLY BEING MARKETED. IS YOUR 15 INDIVIDUAL RESIDENTIAL UNITS, AND THEY ALL AGREED. WOW. 
          SOME REALLY NICE PONDS. OKAY ANY QUESTIONS ON RESOLUTION 29. ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC ELECTED PROVIDE COMMENT REGARDING RESOLUTION ARE 29. NO PUBLIC COMMENT WILL CLOSE. THE PUBLIC HEARING IS THEIR EMOTION ON THE RESOLUTION. MOVE FOR THE ADOPTION OF RESOLUTION ARE 29 2022. SECOND MR. COUNCIL MEMBER OF LOCAL BEATEN COUNCIL MEMBER GUEST YES, MEMBER COUNCIL MEMBER CHARLES YES. SPALDING COUNCIL MEMBER BRISK. YES YES, FELLOWS. YES YES. FIRST POINT TO ADOPT RESOLUTION ARE 29 2026. WOULD ANYONE CARE TO MAKE A STANDING COMMUNITY REPORT? REPORTS OF REPRESENTATIVES JOINING UPDATE FROM OUR FIRST REPORT ON SUMMER RECESS. ALRIGHT ANY UPDATE FROM THE JOINT PARTS? NO REPORT. UH, PLAYING LOCAL SCHOOLS MEETING PLAIN TOWNSHIP. NOPE. MEETING 
          [14. REPORTS OF CITY OFFICIALS]
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TOMORROW? ALRIGHT REPORTS OF CITY OFFICIALS AGAIN JUST. IT WAS AN AWESOME DAY. YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOT A BETTER DAY FOR A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER OR MAYOR IN A SMALL TOWN AMERICA AND FOURTH OF JULY, RIGHT? IT'S JUST A PHENOMENAL DAY STARTED AT SIX O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING. I DID NOT RUN UP THEIR DECISION. SHAKE HANDS AND HANDLES AND WATER BOTTLES ONLY RUN IF I'M GETTING CHASED BUT THAT'S A GREAT WAY TO START THE DAY AND THE CROWD WAS AWESOME. IT WAS THE BIGGEST THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF PARTICIPATION THEY'VE HAD FOR THAT RUN EVER. JUST BEAUTIFUL MORNING, BUT AS YOU GO THROUGH THAT ENTIRE DAY, THE ONE THING THAT STRUCK ME MORE THAN MAYBE IN THE PAST WAS HOW MUCH OUR SERVICE DEPARTMENT AND OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT IS ENGAGED FOR THE ENTIRE DAY. SO JUST HATS OFF TO OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE SERVICE DEPARTMENT FOR DOING SUCH A PHENOMENAL JOB. NO. WE TEASE BARKER ALL THE TIME BECAUSE HE DESERVES IT. BUT YOU KNOW, THE GUYS LIKE SWEATING BULLETS FIRST THING IN THE MORNING BECAUSE HE'S WORRIED ABOUT ALL THESE 15 MILLION THINGS NEEDS TO WORRY ABOUT THAT DAY, RIGHT LITERALLY. THEY PLACE. WE'RE JUST COMMON CUCUMBERS. BUT, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT GOES. NOT THAT WAS A PRIVATE CONVERSATION. BUT I MEAN IT. JUST IT JUST, YOU KNOW, IT'S A GREAT REFLECTION AND WE WERE ONE OF THE FIRST FLOATS OUT AND WALKED BACK TO GET MY VEHICLE AND THE SERVICE DEPARTMENT WAS IT WAS LIKE DISNEYLAND LIKE THEY ARE READY TO ROLL THE SECOND THAT THE PRIDE WAS OVER AND YOU KNOW, WITHIN AN HOUR THAT'S LIKE IT NEVER HAPPENED. EVERYTHING'S CLEANED UP, READY TO GO UNDER THE NEXT PART OF THE DAY, PHENOMENAL JOB. AND AGAIN, THE GREAT FIREWORKS ARE GREAT. I'M SURE WE NEED SOME FEEDBACK. YOU KNOW ABOUT HOW MANY WE SEND UP AT THE TIME? HOW LONG THE GRAND FINALE IS, BUT YOU KNOW, THEY'RE ALWAYS WELCOME. JUST GONNA LET THE FINANCE DIRECTOR KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO DOUBLE THE BUDGET NEXT YEAR FOR FIREWORKS. JUST BUILD THAT INTO THE INTO THE EQUATION. IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IS THAT IN THE 2023 BUDGET SUBMITTED FRANKLIN COUNTY CAN WE GO BACK AND LOOK AT THAT? BUT THAT'S THAT'S JUST MY GENERAL COMMENTS. IT WAS JUST A PHENOMENAL DAY. AND JUST, YOU KNOW, JUST IT WAS GREAT. ABSOLUTELY. AND JUST TURN IT OVER TO OUR CLERK WHO AGAIN? I DON'T KNOW HOW SHE DOES THE ENTIRE MARCH. WITH CHILDREN THIS TIME, RIGHT? CHILDREN? YEAH WITH LOCAL RESIDENTS SCOUT SHE WAS A LITTLE GIRL ON STATES. HE WAS SCARED AND STARTS WITH WALKING WITH ME. THAT WAS HER FIRST OFFICIAL EVENT. WOW PRESSURE NOT WALKING ON STILTS. SO AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR GETTING US ORGANIZED AND THEN SOMEHOW FINDING THE TIME AND ENERGY TO DO THAT AND THEN COME BACK AND CLEAN UP AFTER US BECAUSE WE'RE MESSING. ANYTHING ELSE FROM THE CLERK. ALRIGHT, FINANCE DIRECTOR NO REPORTS. CITY MANAGER REPORT. 
          CITY ATTORNEY NUMBER REPORT. NICE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. THERE'S NO PUBLIC HERE, UH, COUNCIL 
          [16. POLL FOR COUNCIL COMMENT]
COMMENT. UM REAL QUICK. I DON'T WANT TO BE, YOU KNOW, BRING THE MOOD DOWN, BUT I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING HE SAID BEFORE THE JULY UNBELIEVABLE. I THINK WE ARE ALL AWARE SOME OTHER THINGS HAPPEN IN OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT ARE VERY MUCH LIKE OURS. IN ILLINOIS. SO I DON'T KNOW. YOU KNOW NOTHING TO DO IMMEDIATELY, BUT I DO THINK MAYBE YOU KNOW WE HAVE OUR HARD CLOSURE PROTOCOLS . UM MAYBE THERE ARE LESSONS TO BE LEARNED. I DON'T THINK ANY COMMUNITY IS IMMUNE TO THINGS LIKE THAT. THAT HAPPENED. BUT MAYBE CHIEF IN CHRIS, WE CIRCLE BACK AND SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING WE CAN LOOK AT ALONG THE ROUTE. CAUSE I DON'T THINK YOU'D BE TOO SAFE. ESPECIALLY IN THIS DAY AND AGE. SO THAT WAS MY ONLY COMMENT THAT IT'S SAD THAT SOMETHING LIKE GRIEVING HOLIDAY AND THINGS LIKE THAT ARE ALWAYS A POSSIBILITY. RIGHT NOW. YOU GUYS HAVE THE DRONE EMPLOYED, DEPLOYED ALL DAY OR JUST IN THE EVENING. I SAW AT NIGHT, BUT I DIDN'T SEE IT. YES WE HAD THE DRONE DEPLOYED DURING THE PARADE . AND I'M NOT SURE WHAT TIME IN THE MORNING I CAME IN FOR THE PARADE. AND AT NIGHT THE ONLY TIME WE DIDN'T HAVE IT WHEN THE FIREWORKS WERE GOING OFF JUST BECAUSE OF REGULATIONS. SO BUT WE DO DEPLOY IT, AND THAT'S HELPFUL FOR COMMAND POST POSITIONS. ESPECIALLY FOR SMALL THINGS LIKE GETTING TRAFFIC OUT OF THE CITY LIKE CASE IN TRAFFIC EAST BALANCE THAT ARE WEST. UM, BUT COUNCILMAN GUEST. I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH YOU OFFLINE. THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT THE PUBLIC'S RIGHT UNAWARE OF, AND RIGHTFULLY SO. 
          SO UM, BUT SAFETY IS A PRIORITY AND WE WERE ON HIGH ALERT. UM AND I'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU. THANK YOU. IT WAS OTHER THAN A VERY SOBERING MOMENT. I WAS A GREAT DAY. IT WAS MY FIRST DAY ON COUNCIL OF THE FOURTH AND I AM VERY TIRED TODAY BECAUSE I WAS GOING FROM BUT I HAVE TO SAY I STOPPED THE SELF SERVICE WHEN I WAS RUNNING, AND THEN I SAW THAT WHEN I WAS WALKING BACK FROM WITH EXTREMELY CLEAN STREETS THAT I KNOW PEOPLE WERE SITTING 
          [03:50:04]
ON THE PARADE WALKING BACK FROM THE PARADE WHEN I SAW IT AT THE CHURCH AND THERE WERE POLICE OFFICERS WHO ARE WAVING GOODBYE TO ALL THAT SMELLS LIKE PIZZA, SO THAT. ANY OTHER BUSINESS FOR COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION. FRONT AND I MOVE THAT WE DRINK SAFE. THING IS SLIGHTLY LONGER THAN THE MEETING. CHAIRED ADJOURNING AT 10 20 PM
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.