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IT'S DEFINITELY OKAY? BUT. I'D LIKE TO CALL HER THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING FOR MONDAY,
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AUGUST 15TH, CAN YOU GET THE ROLE? PLEASE? MR. KIRBY PRESIDENT, MR. WALLACE PRESENT.MR. SCHELL PRESIDENT, MR. LARSON, PRESIDENT. YES BRIGGS. MR SHELL HERE. BRINGS US ACTION
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ON THE MINUTES. ARE THERE CORRECTIONS TO THE APRIL 18TH MINUTES? ANYONE HAS NONE HERE.AND FOR ME. CORRECTIONS. THE JUNE 6TH. YES I WAS NOT PRESENT AT THAT MEETING. IT SHOWS ME PRESENT. SO WE'LL NEED TO GET THAT CORRECTED. VOTES REFLECT THAT. JUNE SECTION JUST CALLED YES. I DO HAVE ALSO. TURNING 12. INDICATION YET. THREE. MR. MR WALLACE. UM SIR, CAN YOU TURN YOUR MICROPHONE, PLEASE? SORRY THANK YOU. AGAIN IT'S ON PAGE 10 OF 12. THE MINUTES REFLECTED THAT I REFER TO ROMAN NUMERAL THREE AND JUST JUST LET IT REFLECT IT WAS NUMERAL PRICK.
AND FOR ME, IT'S NOT A CORRECTION TO THE MINUTES, BUT IT NEEDS TO BE A STATEMENT OF FACT THAT GOT WRONG. SO ON PAGE THREE PART WAY DOWN I BASICALLY DID 0.8. TIMES 1 98 IN MY HEAD AND DROPPED A DECIMAL PLACE. AND SO I CAME UP WITH, UH, IT'S ABOUT AND THEN I REALIZED MUCH LATER THAN I'M OFF BY A FACTOR OF 10. AND SO IT'S NOT 15 OR 16. IT'S 150 OR 160. AND THOUGH THE MINUTES ARE CORRECT, BUT WE SHOULD STATE THAT THAT'S A MATH ERROR. THEY'RE NOT TO BE GUIDED BY THAT NUMBER. IT WOULD BE SO KIND CHANGE WOULD BE IN FRANCE, 15 TO 50 AND 16 TO 16. I JUST HAD A DECIMAL 150 160. I'M TRYING TO DO 1600.8 TIMES 198 AND I DID IT AT THIS POINT. OH, EIGHT. INSTEAD OF 0.8. DREADFULLY, YOU KNOW. IT'S ALMOST IT'S THE SAME ORDER POINT OF THE SAME OLD MAGNET IS ONE SO WE SHOULD HAVE A NUMBER CLOSE TO 198. AND NOT CLOSE. IT'S NOT 0.1. ONE POINT ANOTHER ONE DID THE MATH WRONG? OTHER CORRECTIONS TO JUNE 6TH. AND CORRECTIONS TO THE OTHER ONE. POUR 20 JUNE 20TH. YEAH UM, I HAVE A REQUEST FOR PROBABLY SOMEWHERE AROUND PAGE THREE. ON THESE MINUTES. IF YOU CAN LOCATE ABOUT THE POINT IN TIME WHERE I ENTERED THE MEETING IT WOULD BE HELPFUL. OH, OTHERWISE, IT'S I JOINED IT SOMETIME, AND WE CAN'T TELL WHERE. WE'VE GOT THE PRESENT ARRIVED AT 7 19. BUT AS I WAS SCROLLING THROUGH, I DIDN'T SEE, UH THANK YOU. OTHER CORRECTIONS. TO JUNE 20TH MINUTES HERE AND THEN DO I HEAR A MOTION FOR THE THREE MINUTES? APPROVED THE MINUTES FROM THE APRIL 18 JUNE 6TH AND JUNE 22,022. PLANNING COMMISSION MEETINGS. UM SUBJECT TO THE CORRECTIONS THAT WERE STATED ON OUR SECOND THAT. DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION FOR THE MINUTES I WOULD WANT TO ADD THAT I WASN'T PRESENT FOR ONE OF THESE, AND I DIDN'T GET THAT. YEAH OKAY. MAYA PROVEN THAT THE REPRESENTATIVE BECAUSE I CAN'T VOTE ON THAT PARTICULAR WASN'T SO WHY DON'T I? I'LL I'LL AMEND THE MOTION TO REFER TO THE FIRST MOTION REFERRED TO THE APRIL 18 IN JUNE. 2022 MEETINGS ONLINE. I APPROVE THAT CHANGE TO THE MOTION. SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE APRIL 18TH MINUTES ON THIS FIRST MOTION AND THE JUNE 20. OKAY, THAT MAKES SENSE. ARE WE CLEAR? YES. COULD I HEAR THE RULE? MR WALLACE. MR KIRBY. MR SCHELL? YES. MR LARSON? YES. TO APPROVE THE JUNE 6TH 2022. UM MINUTES FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AS CORRECTED. I'LL SECOND THAT. DISCUSSION ON
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THE MOTION FOR THE JUNE 6TH MINUTES. THE ROLE, PLEASE. MR WALLACE? YES, MR KIRBY? YES MR SCHELL? YES. MR LARSON ABSTAINED SINCE I WASN'T PRESENT. MOTION PASSES WITH THREE VOTES. ARE[IV. Additions or Corrections to Agenda]
THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS TO THE AGENDA? NONE FROM STAFF, OKAY? WHAT? EVERYONE WHO WISHES TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION TONIGHT. PLEASE RISE. DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? THANK YOU AND LET US ALL SILENCE OUR PHONES, ESPECIALLY THOSE OF US WHO KNOW YOUNGER FOLKS WHO'D LIKE TO TEXT. DO WE HAVE ANY VISITORS TONIGHT, WHICH IS SPEAK ON SOMETHING THAT IS NOT ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA. HEARING NONE. WE GO TO OUR FIRST CASE FOR[VII. Cases]
FINAL DEVELOPMENT MODIFICATION. 81 YEAH, OF 2022. CAN WE HEAR FROM STAFF? THANK YOU. CHAIR MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION. THE APPLICATION SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN SUB AREA EIGHT. A OF THE KENNEDY TRUST CORP I P U D. THE PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVED THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THIS SITE IN 2015. THE SITE CONTAINS AN EXISTING 18,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING, WHICH IS HOME TO THE NEW ALBANY BALLET COMPANY. THE PROPOSAL BEFORE THE COMMISSION TONIGHT INCLUDES AN EXPANSION TO THE EXISTING BUILDING. AND MODIFICATIONS TO BOTH THE PARKING AND CIRCULATION ON THE SITE. THE MODIFICATIONS TO THE SITE PLAN INCLUDE CREATION OF SEVEN ADDITIONAL PARKING SPACES AND THE INSTALLATION OF ONE NEW CURB CUT. THE SITE IS CURRENTLY ACCESSED. FROM TWO ENTRY DRIVES . THE APPLICANT PROPOSES A NEW RIGHT OUT CURB CUT ON FOREST DRIVE. TO CREATE MORE DIRECT PATH OF CIRCULATION THROUGH THIS SITE WEST TO EAST. THE TWO EXISTING CURB CUTS SHALL REMAIN UNCHANGED. THE CITY'S TRAFFIC ENGINEER REVIEWED THE SITE CIRCULATION AND HAS NO ISSUES.THEY WILL REVIEW IT IN GREATER DETAIL AT THE TIME OF ENGINEERING PERMIT REVIEW. AS FOR THE MODIFICATION TO THE EXISTING PARKING SPACES, UM, THE EXISTING SITE INCLUDES 58 PARKING SPACES. THE PLANNING COMMISSION PREVIOUSLY APPROVED THIS BASED ON THE OPERATIONAL ASPECT OF THE USE. THE BALLET DANCE STUDIO IS NOT A USE THAT IS INCLUDED IN THE CITY'S PARKING CODE. AND THEREFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS TO DETERMINE THE NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES REQUIRED. THE APPLICANT STATES THAT DUE TO VEHICLES QUEUING AND THE EXISTING DROP OFF AREA RATHER THAN UTILIZING THE DROP OFF AREA. UM AS IT WAS INTENDED, UM, THE PARK IN THE DROP OFF AREA, CAUSING BACKUPS AND DISRUPTS THE CIRCULATION OF THIS SITE, TOO. UM THE FOLKS COMING AND GOING AND TO RESOLVE THE CIRCULATION ISSUE. THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO REMOVE THE DROP OFF AREA AND REPLACE IT WITH 12 NEW HEAD ON PARKING SPACES. THIS IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE RECONFIGURING OF OTHER AREAS OF THE PARKING LOT WOULD RESULT IN THE NET GAIN OF SEVEN PARKING SPACES. STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF THE REQUESTS TO ADD PARKING AS THE FACILITY WILL NEED ADDITIONAL SPACES ONCE THE DROP OFF AREA IS REMOVED, SINCE PATRONS UTILIZE THE DROP OFF AREA AS PARKING. THE STATE PLAN MODIFICATIONS WILL HAVE A LITTLE IMPACT ON THE EXISTING LANDSCAPE PLAN AND WILL NOT CAUSE THE LANDSCAPE PLAN TO BE DEFICIENT. THERE IS NO ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING REQUIRED WITH THE ADDITIONS OR, UM, SITE PLAN MODIFICATIONS. IN TERMS OF THE LIGHTING. THE APPLICANT PROPOSES LIGHT FIXTURES ON THE NEW EDITION, AND THEY HAVE SUBMITTED THE PHOTO METRIC PLAN. THE NEW LIGHT FIXTURES ARE CANS AND THEY WILL BE BENEATH THE ADDITION.
THEY WILL SHINE DIRECTLY DOWN AND WILL NOT TRESPASS. THE PHOTO METRIC PLAN SHOWS THE EXISTING LIGHTING THE PERIMETER LIGHTING LEVELS ARE UNCHANGED. THE PROPOSED ADDITIONS WILL BE ONE
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ON EACH END. THEY ARE APPROXIMATELY 3000 SQUARE FEET APIECE, AND THIS WOULD ADD APPROXIMATELY 6000 SQUARE FEET TO THE EXISTING BUILDING. THE APPLICATION GENERALLY MEETS THE ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS. THE TEXT DOES REQUIRE SPECIFIC STYLES BASED ON TRADITIONAL AMERICAN DESIGNS. UNLESS OTHERWISE APPROVED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION. THESE STYLES INCLUDE GEORGIAN, COLONIAL, FEDERAL AND CLASSICAL REVIVAL BARN OR VERNACULAR FORMS THAT REINFORCED A COMMON HISTORIC ARCHITECTURAL VOCABULARY. IN THIS CASE, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING INDUSTRIAL ARCHITECTURE. THE CITY ARCHITECT STATES THAT WHILE INDUSTRIAL ARCHITECTURE IS NOT SPECIFICALLY LISTED IN THE GUIDELINES IT IS AN AMERICAN STYLE OF ARCHITECTURE AND OVERALL, HE IS SUPPORTIVE OF THE INDUSTRIAL DESIGN AND STATES THAT THE DESIGNS OF THE ORIGINAL BUILDING AND NEW ADDITIONS COMPLEMENT ONE ANOTHER. THE DESIGN INTENT OF THE ORIGINAL BUILDING IS ONE OF A REPURPOSED WAREHOUSE. THE DESIGN OF THE ADDITION IS MEANT TO COMPLEMENT THE BRICK. AND ALSO APPEAR TO BE A REPURPOSED INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSE. WITH EXPOSED STEEL. THE ADDITIONS ARE VERY WELL DETAILED AND APPROPRIATELY DESIGNED. EACH WING ADDITION IS HELD UP BY EIGHT STEEL COLUMNS. THE APPLICANT STATES THAT BEEN THERE. OH, COLUMNS ARE PURPOSEFULLY DESIGNED IN A WAY THAT. IT WOULD ALLOW FOR THE ADDITIONS TO LOOK LIKE THEY'RE FLOATING. IN ORDER TO FULLY MEET THE ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS OF THE TEXT. THE CITY ARCHITECT RECOMMENDS THAT THE STEEL COLUMNS BE ENLARGED OR THE USE OF DOUBLE COLUMNS TO BE INCORPORATED. THAT WOULD OFFSET THE FLOATING IS APPEARANCE. AND BY DOING SO, THIS WILL REINFORCE THE REPURPOSED INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSE DESIGN. UM, THE FLOATING DESIGN APPEARS MORE MODERN AS TO TRADITIONAL STAFF RECOMMENDS A CONDITION OF APPROVAL. REQUIRING THE USE OF DOUBLE COLUMNS OR ANOTHER DESIGN TO LESSEN THE APPEARANCE OF THE BUILDING FLOATING SUBJECT TO THIS CITY ARCHITECT APPROVAL. THE APPLICANT PROVIDED THESE RENDERINGS ON THE SCREEN. THE RENDERINGS DEPICT HOW THE ADDITIONS COMPLEMENTS THE ORIGINAL BUILDING. FOR EXAMPLE, THE ENTRYWAY AND THE ADDITIONS TIED TOGETHER NICELY WITH SIMILAR MATERIALS AND THE SAME COLOR MATERIALS. NEW ROOFTOP MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT IS PROPOSED ON THE ADDITIONS. THE APPLICANT STATES THAT THEY WILL BE SCREENED BY PANELS THAT ARE PAINTED TO MATCH THE ORIGINAL BRICK ON THE EXISTING BUILDING. UM. SHOULD PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVED. THE APPLICATION STAFF RECOMMENDS THE CONDITION OF APPROVAL THAT THE SCREENING FOR THE EQUIPMENT ON THE ADDITIONS BE PAINTED TO MATCH THE COLOR ARE USED FOR THE BUILDING EDITION, AS OPPOSED TO THE COLOR OF THE BRICK ON THE EXISTING BUILDING. IN CONCLUSION STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE APPLICATIONS WITH THE CONDITIONS THAT WERE LISTED IN YOUR STAFF REPORT. B DEVELOPMENT PLAN MODIFICATION IS CONSISTENT WITH INTENT AND THE STANDARDS OF THE ZONING CODE AND THE DEVELOPMENT TEXT. WHILE INDUSTRIAL ARCHITECTURE IS NOT SPECIFICALLY LISTED IN THE GUIDELINES, IT IS AN AMERICAN STYLE OF ARCHITECTURE. THE EXISTING BUILDING IS VERY SUCCESSFULLY, UM DESIGNED WAREHOUSE STYLE AND THE USE OF THE STEEL AND GLASS FOR THE EXPANSION. IS APPROPRIATE GIVEN THE ARCHITECTURAL STYLE. THE CITY ARCHITECT STATES THAT OVERALL THE DESIGN IS UNIQUE, BUT IT RESPECTS THE EXISTING STRUCTURE.AND THANK YOU. I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. CAN WE HEAR FROM THAT OR ANY ENGINEERING ON THIS ? THANK YOU, MR CHAIRPERSON, UM , IN RELATION TO THE PROPOSED RIGHT IN RIGHT OUT. I BELIEVE THAT I SAW IN THE TEXT OF SOME TREES MIGHT BE RELOCATED AND WE ASK THAT THE APPLICANT COORDINATE THAT WITH THE CITY ARBORIST. AND THEN ENSURE THAT SITE. THIS IS AN IMPEDED AT THIS NEW GIRL BACK. THAT'S ALL WE HAVE. THANK YOU. CAN WE HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT? THERE WILL
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BE AN ARCHITECT. NICE TO BE BACK IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY. UM VERY THOROUGH. HERE YOU ITEMS I'D LIKE TO CLARIFY A LITTLE BIT MORE, UM ONE AND IT'S PROBABLY QUESTION THEIR MIND AND HEART.THESE ADDITIONS ARE HATED BY TRIPLING OF ENROLLMENT AT THIS POINT. THIS. BALLET SCHOOL SINCE THE BEGINNING. SHE THOUGHT HER REMEMBERED WOULD ACTUALLY GO DOWN. OTHER SCHOOLS CLOSED TRIPLE. SO WHAT SHE HAS ON SITE RIGHT NOW, PARKING IS HANDLING THIS INCREASED LOAD OF STUDENTS AND PARENTS. THE PROBLEM WHEN SHE'S RUNNING INTO IS THAT THE DROP OFF CREATED IS MORE PROBLEM. PARENTS WILL. LINE UP IN THAT DROP OFF, CONTINUE TO BACK PARKING SKILLS. HERE. THE HOTEL AND MINE. OUR ABILITY TO UTILIZE. SO IT'S BY HAVING THE DROP OFF CREATING THE PROBLEM.
SHE'S CONFIDENT THAT BY FORCING THE PARENT'S CAR AND ENFORCING THEM. MONSTER. COMMUNICATION THAT OUR PARENTS PUTTING PEOPLE IN APARTMENT SPACES THAT SHOULD SO THEN THAT INCREASES SOUTH FIELDS IS IT'S IMPORTANT SUFFICIENT FOR USE. UM. I MYSELF GO OVER. ON THIS. WE'VE ACTUALLY MODEL. IT SEEMS EVEN THE OTHER LEVEL. PM TEXTURE, WHICH IS ALL THE WAY FROM ACROSS. CLEARLY SEE IT PICKING UP ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE. PUT THESE ON UNITS THAT ARE ON THE EXISTING BUILDING AS WELL, WHICH TURNED TO SEE AT ALL? AH. SO I WOULD I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND GOING WITH A GRAY, DARK GRAY ON THESE UNITS. THAT WAS JUST GREAT. THREE CLIMATIC CATTLE. CALL ME EDITION ITSELF.
THIS AUDITING THAT IT STICKS UP, YOU KNOW? PUT IT THERE ACTUALLY DID THAT BUILDING AND PLAYING AT A FEW YEARS AGO. HAVING A LIGHTER. SCREEN. THAT PARTICULAR NUMBER 11 ACTUALLY. HERE EXTENDS UP UNIT CENTERED ON THE THAT'S SOMETHING WALL. IF THAT WERE DARK COLOR LIKE BUILDING OF THE TEAM STAND OUT WALL. DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO IT SO BY USING A LIGHT AND COLOR. I FEEL LIKE IT'LL DISAPPEAR INTO GREAT SKY. ITSELF. PARENTS. AS MUCH AS IT WOULD BE. SO. I DISAGREE WITH THAT DIRECTION, BUT GO DARKER COLOR CONCERT. SO THEY'RE ON THE LINE AVENUE BUILDING IT YOU'RE SAYING IT'S THE CAMOUFLAGING AGAINST THE SKY RATHER THAN CAMOUFLAGING AGAINST THE BUILDING. SO THAT'S THE CHOICE. WE'VE GOT IN FRONT OF US ABOUT WHICH WAY DOES IT WORK? BECAUSE IF WE MAKE IT DARK. IT HAS TO BE PART OF THE BUILDING BECAUSE IT BECOMES PART OF THE BUILDING. SO WE'RE GOING TO BE FAR LESS PRONOUNCED. THAT PICTURE UP ON THE UPPER LEFT. YOU GO BACK THE RENDERINGS. HAVING A SMALLER ONLY VARY YES. THANK YOU RIGHT THERE. YOU KNOW, LIGHT OR DARK? FOR THESE RENDERINGS. SORRY. UM IS THIS? WHAT'S THE NET LIGHTING EFFECT SIMULATING HERE BECAUSE LIGHTING IS GOING TO BE EVERYTHING ON WHETHER THIS WORKS OR NOT, AND THIS LOOKS LIKE A PARTLY CLOUDY DAY THAT'S GOTTA MIX THAT THE SUN IS SHINING ON THE BRICK BUILDING, AND IT'S NOT SHINING ON THE GRAY BUILDING OR ARE THEY LIT THE SAME? THE SAME? YES. DID IT SAY. OKAY? UM AND SO, IS THAT. RENDERING IS THAT SUPPOSED TO REFLECT A THEY WERE THE SUNSHINE GIVES WHAT ALCOHOL HARD SHADOWS DELINEATED SHADOWS OR CLOUDY DAY WHERE WE'VE GOT SOFTER SHADOWS, PRETTY DISTINCT SHADOWS IF YOU LOOK AT THE BOTTOM RIGHT CORNER. SEE HOW. I GUESS THE QUESTION IS HOW MUCH DIRECTS RAY VERSUS AMBIENT LIGHTING IS. I'M AN AMATEUR PHOTOGRAPHER, AND I KNOW THERE'S
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A LOT OF PICTURES DON'T LIE, BUT YOU CAN LIE WITH PICTURES WITH LOVE AND JUST A COUPLE OF SETTINGS, AND IT'S COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THING. IT'S JUST A BAD DAY. WE'RE MODELING. THANK YOU.HEY, CARTER. ONCE IT'S UP IS THAT THE COLOR IS IT? CAN YOU PAINT IT OR CHANGE IT OUT? IF IT'S LIKE WE COULD. YOU KNOW, THE EVERYTHING IS BASED UPON THE ORIGINAL BUILDING. FEEL PARTY PANEL. DETAILING ITS IS WHAT WE USE ON THE ENTRANCE, ALL OF THE EXISTING STOREFRONT BLAZING IS THAT CHARMING COLOR. SO IT'S JUST ADDING TO WHAT'S ALREADY. I MEANT THE SCREENING THIS SCREENING. SO IF IT IF YOU USE THE LIGHTER SCREENING AND STAFF SAID THIS LOOKS WITH US FINISH, OKAY, AND WHAT WE USED ON THE ORIGINAL BUILDING STARK WHITE, AND IT'S HAPPENING IN COLOR.
MASK HALFWAY COLORED. MATCH THE BREAD TONE BRINGS. UNLESS YOU'RR HOTEL NEXT DOOR. PROPERTY. HMM.
I AGREE WITH YOU ON THE LIGHTER COLOR IN YOUR BOOK. WE HAVE A WHITE EXISTING BUILDING. SO IF CONCERNED ABOUT YOU FROM. WOW. HMM. YEAH THAT. I MEAN, IF YOU PROPOSED IT WOULD BE LIKE A SINGLE COLOR SIMILAR COLOR TO THE EXISTING BUILDING FOR THE SCREEN THERE. YEAH THAT MAKES SENSE TO ME BECAUSE IT WOULD DISAPPEAR MORE IN THERE. I WOULD JUST HATE TO SEE LYING ACROSS THE TOP. ISSUES. DO YOU? QUESTIONS. UM I'M A LITTLE SKEPTICAL THIS CONCEPT THAT.
THAT PARENTS THAT ARE DROPPING THEIR CHILDREN OFF NOW AND COMING THINGS UP ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO PARK THEIR CARS. I THINK THEY'RE GONNA PULL RIGHT UP IN FRONT AND DROP THEIR KIDS OFF. THAT'S WHAT I SUSPECT IS GOING TO HAPPEN, SO I DON'T THINK YOU'RE I THINK THE BACKUP PROBLEM IS GOING TO BE FIXED BY THIS. I THINK IT'S GONNA BE EXACERBATED BY THIS FRANKLY. BUT HAVING SAID THAT, I GUESS THAT'S PROBABLY THE BEST THAT CAN BE DONE. UM, BUT DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE DESIGN OF THE IS THERE A REASON THAT BUILDING IS DESIGNED TO ONLY HAVE A SECOND FLOOR WING. IN THE BUILDING WASN'T DESIGNED TO JUST BE A BIGGER BUILDING ALL THE WAY ACROSS AND THEN CAPTURE THE ORIGINAL. CHARACTERISTICS OF THE BUILDING. 100. IT'S JUST THE PARKING YES, THESE ADDITIONS NOT ONLY FLOWED OUT PARKING SPACES, BUT OVER DR ISLES. WE CAN BLOW AWAY BOTH. ON THE PARKING IN THE TEXT THAT SAID THE PARKING IS ADEQUATE FOR THE LOAD TODAY, SO YOU NEED THE EXTRA SEVEN SPACES OR WILL IT IF YOU HAVEN'T BLACK, THE EXTRA SEVEN STATES THIS YEAR. THE REASON I ASK IS I MEAN , THERE COULD BE AN ALTERNATE SOLUTION, RIGHT WHERE YOU DID BUILD A TWO STORY ON JUST ONE SIDE OF THE BUILDING. AND YOU CAN HOLD YOUR PARKING PRETTY MUCH FLAG TO WHAT IT IS TODAY. AND THEN YOU WOULD GET THAT MORE TRADITIONAL ARCHITECTURE WITH IT. YEAH SHE WANTED THOSE ADDITIONAL STUDIOS PEOPLE. AT THE AGE. GROUPS OF CLASSIC. SHE WENT TO HAPPEN. THAT'S A LOT ABOUT THE USE RELATIONS SHAPE THAN THEY USED TO. AND YOU KNOW THIS. THE PROPOSAL OF THE DESIGN EARLY ON PURPOSE. WE ESTABLISHED THAT STEALING GLASS FIBERS.
VOCABULARY ON IT AS PART OF THE REPURPOSING THIS BILL. AND SO THESE ISSUES, I THINK FURTHER.
TAKE MY SOUL. ABOUT. STEEL. WHAT'S FELLOW HEIGHTS UNDERNEATH THAT? TRADITION QUESTIONS SO.
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CLEAR UNDERNEATH THE BEAMS AS YOU SEE HERE. IT'S PRACTICALLY 12. FT. GRADE DOES FINE. COLD UP NORTH EAST CORNER SO BUT IT KIND OF GREAT DOES FINALLY. WHICH IS ALSO PART OF THE THINKING BEHIND. PUTTING THAT RIGHT OUT. ITSELF EASY. SO THAT. EMERGENCY VEHICLES WOULDN'T HAVE TO REVERSE UNDER DIMINISHING. THANKS AS THE. WE'VE RUN THIS BY THE FIRE, TOO. PULLING STRAIGHT ACROSS THE SIDE. OKAY, BECAUSE THAT WAS WHERE I WAS GOING, IS, UM 12. FT IS A TRUCK HAZARD. UM SO CLUELESS PEOPLE IN BOX TRUCKS . THERE'S ENOUGH VIDEOS OF THIS ON THE INTERNET. UM SO THIS COMES OVER YOUR DR ISLES. IT DOES, YES. UM WELL, YOU HAVE CLEARANCE MARKERS ANYWHERE WE WILL SIGNAGE SHOWN AS YOUR INBOUND. FROM NEXT YEAR. SOME AND ALONG THAT LINE THE POSTS.UM YOU WANT NICE, NARROW POSTS SO THAT THERE'S LESS INTRUSION INTO THE PARKING SPACES. WE ACTUALLY HAVE TWO BY TWO FT. CONCRETE FACE. THAT'S A PROTECTION FOR THOSE CALLS.
THAT'S WHERE I WAS GOING NEXT. HOW HIGH UP DOES THAT GO? THE PUBLIC. YEAH ABSOLUTELY WORKING THAT IN MY HEAD. YEAH. OKAY DEPICTIONS DON'T SHOW THE WIDERY TALKED ABOUT AS RECOMMENDED BY THE CITY. BUT SO THE WIDER IT IS ONLY AT THE BASE. IT DOESN'T GO ALL THE WAY UP. ORIGINALLY THEN THEY WERE JUST THERE ALL THE WAY DOWN. SHOW LIKE THIS. EXCUSE ME, SIR. STAFF WANTS A POST THAT IS WIDER, WHERE IT MEETS THE FLOOR OF THE OF THE ADDITION. IT'S THE YEAH. THE STEEL COLUMN ITSELF, NOT THE CONCRETE FOUNDATION OR BASE SO MUCH. YEAH SHOW ME, STEVE WISH.
SO I'M GONNA GO BACK TO MY QUESTION THAT SAYS THERE'S A DIET DOES THIS DIAGRAM SHOW? WHAT WHAT WE ULTIMATELY WANT OR WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY PROPOSED. THIS SHOWS WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY PROPOSED. SO. SO, WHAT'S IT GONNA LOOK LIKE? YES. IF IT'S APPROVED, AND IF YOU AGREE THAT STAFF CONDITIONS. WE AGREED WITH THE CONDITION IT WOULDN'T LOOK LIKE THIS EITHER. DOUBLE COLUMN IN HERE. JUST PEOPLE DOUBLE COM JUST MEANS A WIDER OR THE TWO OF THEM, RIGHT ABOUT. ANOTHER OPTION OF BUILDING I DISCUSSED THE WAY IN WOULD BE TO TAKE THAT TWO FT BY TWO FT. CONCRETE. MAKE IT APPEAR ALL REALITY SUPPORT COLUMNS. YEAH, SURE. DEPARTMENT GREEN POWER. SO WHAT I'M HEARING YOU SAY TONIGHT IS THERE'S A COUPLE DIFFERENT APPROACHES THAT COULD BE TAKEN TO SATISFY STAFF IS CONCERNED, I GUESS WOULD MAKE THAT SUBJECT JUST GOT APPROVAL. PEOPLE'S YOU ACCEPT THEIR CONDITION. I ASSUME AND SO WHAT A LARGER CALL HIM CHANGE THE AESTHETIC. THE AREA UNDERNEATH.
AND WHAT OF WHERE I'M GOING? IS THAT AT SOME POINT, IT IS LESS INVITING AND APPEARS LESS SAFE.
IT APPEARS MORE LIKE A PARKING GARAGE, WHICH PEOPLE HAVE A DISTINCT DISTASTE FOR IT. WELL, I HAVE A DISTINCT TASTE THROUGH THIS, SO I'M TRYING. I'M TRYING TO GET IT BECAUSE I'M NOT A FAN . I'M NOT A FAN OF THE FLYING BUILDING OPENING AREAS. WHAT YOU'RE GOING FOR OPEN AREA AND YOU CAN SEE ALL THE WAY THROUGH IT. AND NO ONE'S HIDING BEHIND THAT POST BECAUSE NO ONE'S THAT
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SKINNY AND YOU'RE SAFE TO PARK YOUR CAR HERE AND IT BECOMES AN ENTICING PLACE TO PARK YOUR CAR ALL SUMMER AND WINTER. BECAUSE IT DOESN'T GET SNOWED ON, AND IT DOESN'T GET 9000 DEGREES. AND I MEANT NO DISRESPECT WHATSOEVER BECAUSE I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE WHAT WE'RE SEEING TONIGHT IS WHAT WE HAVE BEEN SEEING HERE AT THE PLANET COMMISSION FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. PEOPLE TRYING TO PUT MORE STUFF ON LESS PROBLEM. YEAH WE'RE SEEING A RAFT OF THOSE WHETHER THEY'RE SWIMMING POOLS OR FULL HOUSES, WHATEVER. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SEEING. WE'RE SEEING PEOPLE. YOU KNOW, AND I UNDERSTAND THE PROBLEM HERE. THIS BUSINESS STARTED IN A CERTAIN WAY HAS GROWN A SUCCESSFUL SO AS A PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBER. I WANT TO SUPPORT THAT. BUT ON THE OTHER HAND WE CERTAINLY DID HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE OWNER OF THE PROJECT TO POTENTIALLY LOOK FOR A DIFFERENT PIECE OF PROPERTY AND SHE AFTER THE INVESTMENT THAT SHE SURE DOESN'T YEAH. GOT IT. RIGHT LOOK, I'VE DRIVEN PAST THIS BILLION MILLION TIMES WITH MY WIFE. AND EVERY TIME WE GO PAST THAT IS A REALLY BEAUTIFUL COOL. I CAN DO IT.THIS. I DON'T SPEAK IN THAT RIGHT DIRECTION, BUT I SEE WHY YOU'VE DONE IT THAT WAY. I'M KIND OF TORN I'LL CHIME IN A BIT. MY DAUGHTER WAS WHAT'S THIS STUDENT? THEY'RE PRETTY PRE PANDEMIC AND TRUTHFULLY EVEN BACK THEN. IT WAS A BEAR. GO DROP HER OFF AND BE IN THAT LANE, SOMETIMES TO THE STREET. HAVE YOU PUT IF YOU ALLOWED TO STORIES ON EACH SIDE, IT JUST WOULDN'T WORK. YOU HAVE NO TRAFFIC FLOW. PEOPLE PARKING IN THE HOTEL. I EVEN HAVE CONCERNS.
I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE VERY TEMPTING FOR MISS MILLER TO WANT TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS. WITH THE EXTRA SPACE. SEVEN SPACES ISN'T MASKING AND THEN SO AT SOME POINT, SHE'S GONNA HAVE TO FIGURE OUT A PARKING SOLUTION OF MINE. YEAH, THERE'S A COUPLE OF ALTERNATIVES BECAUSE AS I LOOKED AT THIS WAS IF YOU WERE GOING TO KEEP THE FISH, THE OTHER COLUMN COULD DIRECT HERE. SO IT LINED UP. AND BE MORE SYMMETRICAL. RIGHT NOW IT FEEL MORE STABLE AND LIKE IT'S. FLOATING SO MUCH RIGHT HERE. 71 THE OTHER ONE I THOUGHT ABOUT WAS ON THIS. I DID IT TWO STORY AND PUT IT UP AGAINST LIKE YOU SAID IT RISES ON THE BACK. YOU CAN GET ABOUT THE SAME SQUARE FOOTAGE AND HOLD YOUR PARKING FLAT. THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT INTRUSIVE DRAMA OFF. NOT IF YOU ADD AND THE SECOND INTERNET LIKE THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT. WE LOSE ALL OF OUR MEANS THAT RIGHT YOU WOULD LOSE. YOU CAN PUT IT BACK HERE LIKE YOU KNOW, THERE'S THE THIS IS LIKE IN THREES, RIGHT? SO THAT SECOND PART RIGHT HERE. YOU COULD JUST BUILD IT RIGHT HERE AND THEN JUST LOSE THESE BACK TO ARKANSAS WANTS HERE BEGINS TO HOLD THAT, BUT THEN YOU WOULD HAVE THIS IN CUT RIGHT HERE. WE ALLOWED THE TRAFFIC BEFORE. I THINK THEIR DESKS LAWN THAT SHOWS THE FOOTPRINT OR THE PROJECTION OF THE NEW ADDITION. DOESN'T JUST PARKING SPACES BUT AT EACH PART OF THE DRIVE WHILE WAS ASKED ABOUT HEIGHTS. AND SO IF YOU MAKE IT A TWO STORY FROM THE GROUND UP YOU CAN'T GET UNDER IT. NOT SAYING GET UNDER. I SAY. CUT THIS THIS OVER HERE.
YOU CLOSE THIS OFF. TAKE THIS BASICALLY LIKE THIS SIDE OVER HERE IS IT DOESN'T FALL THE WAY THROUGH, RIGHT? WE'RE JUST THE AND POPULAR PARK IT INSTEAD SO WOULD BE SOMETHING I CONSIDER.
SO YOU WOULD PICK UP AS WELL. YOU'D LOSE 11 HERE, YOU PICK UP 12 YEAR WHEN YOU PICK UP THE ADDITIONAL IN HERE. SO YOU WOULD STILL BE ON THE BUS. HERE. PLUS SEVEN. DID YOU HEAR? BILL ACT BRAIN OUT AND THAT MARKING FIELD. ST YOU READY? YOUR B MINUS? MINUS THREE. I BELIEVE I DO MY MATH, RIGHT? SPACES UNDERNEATH. IT'S JUST IT'S HARD TO GET THAT IN THERE WITHOUT GOING UP JUST ABOVE. THAT COMES TO YOUR POINT TRYING TO GET CRAM. A LOT OF STUFF ON A SMALL LOT COMES DOWN TO. FATHER COMMISSION CONTEMPLATES THAT VERY INTENTLY AS IT LOOKS LIKE HEAVEN. I JUST WANTED TO GO BACK TO THE TO THE COLUMNS, AND THIS MIGHT BE AN ENGINEERING QUESTION, BUT I'M NOT SURE SO IF I AS I READ THE REPORT THE REASON THAT YOU WANT TO GO TO
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TWO IS BECAUSE. AS IT CURRENTLY STATES THAT LOOKS SPINDLY. RELATIVE TO THE BIG MASS AND DEFIES THE LAW OF PHYSICS. SO MY QUESTION IS. IS THE WAY IT'S DESIGNED AS A STRUCTURAL THING THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO GO TO TWO COLUMNS OR STRUCTURALLY THE ONE COLUMNIST. FINE THIS IS JUST MORE OF A LOOK LIKE I GUESS IS WHAT I'M ASKING. YEAH, WE CAN ANSWER THAT. IT IS MORE OF A LOOK. I THINK MODERN MATERIALS AND DESIGN ALLOWS FOR WIDER SPANS BETWEEN COLUMNS. YOU KNOW WHAT WE LIKE THE IDEA OF THE INDUSTRIAL LOOK, BUT OUR COMMENT IS GENERATED FROM YOU KNOW IF THIS YOU KNOW THIS IS APPEAR, AS YOU KNOW, 100 YEAR OLD WAREHOUSES BEING REPURPOSED. WE FEEL THAT THERE PROBABLY MORE COLUMNS ON BASE UNDERNEATH THERE HOLDING UP THAT'S ADDITION. UM THEN YOU KNOW WHAT WOULD WHAT COULD BE DONE TODAY? BUT FOR PART OF THE COLUMNS. OKAY SO IT'S REAL CLOSE TO THE STANDARD 30 FT. ON CENTER INDUSTRIAL EVERY WAREHOUSE IN THE WORLD KIND OF FACTORY IN THE WORLD USES. COLUMNS LIKE THIS ON 30 FT CENTERS AND YOU'RE A LITTLE TIGHTER THAN THAT. AND ALTHOUGH I'M NOT AN ARCHITECT I'M THINKING OF SOMETHING THAT LOOKS LIKE THIS SOMETIMES. WHETHER IN CHICAGO, YOU GOT THE SUSPENDED RAIL SUSPENDED RAILWAY AND EVERYTHING, AND A LOT OF TIMES YOU'LL SEE THOSE COLUMNS GO UP. WAS SOME SORT OF CONNECTION. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S DECORATIVE OR IT'S ACTUALLY THEY'RE FROM AN ENGINEERING PERSPECTIVE. IF I'M WONDERING IF THERE'S OTHER ALTERNATIVES THAT COULD MAKE THAT MORE SUBSTANTIAL, UM FROM AN APPEARANCE PERSPECTIVE AND MAKE IT STILL KEEP THE CONCEPT OF AN INDUSTRIAL WITH A SINGLE COLUMN AND JUST AS A THOUGHT, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN DO AT THE TOP.MAYBE THAT DOESN'T GET IN THE VIEW OF THE CARS, UM, LOOKS STRUCTURALLY MORE SOUND, AND IT KEEPS WITHIN THE CONCEPT OF THE INDUSTRIAL TYPE OF LOOK. INDOOR SWINGS. YEAH, EXACTLY. JUST A THOUGHT. I DON'T KNOW. YEAH I THINK THERE'S YOU KNOW MANY DESIGNS. YOU KNOW, THE END OF IT IS ALSO CANCELED HERE. CANTILEVERED OVER THE EDGE. SO YEAH, YOU WERE SAYING? COULD THERE BE A WAY TO SORT OF ADDRESS THAT CAN DELIVER. MAYBE THAT WOULD MAKE IT FEEL MORE SYMMETRICAL AND SOUND TOO. I DON'T KNOW. I'M NOT GOING TO SPEAK FOR ARCHITECT. BUT DO YOU THINK? YEAH, THERE'S PROBABLY LOTS OF DESIGNS. YOU KNOW THAT, UM, THAT COULD ADDRESS THIS TO MAKE IT FEEL MORE OF A TRADITIONAL TO HELP WITH THAT. YOU KNOW THE WAY OF THE BUILDING. I JUST KIND OF WEIGHING ON JUST APPEARS, YOU KNOW, LIKE FOUR COLUMNS OF FUNDS FROM THE SIDE. WAS ANY CONSIDERATION GIVEN TO GOING UP. SECOND, THE THIRD FLOOR. WE DID ALL RIGHT? YES. GOOD DEBUT, RETROFITTED IN SOME FASHION. IT'S AFFECTING, HMM.
THAT UNLESS THEY OVERBUILT THAT'S EFFECTIVELY NEW BUILDING. YEAH AND IF YOU'RE VERY DISRUPTIVE, I'M JUST ASKING YOUR QUESTION. IT IS GOOD, BECAUSE I'M ASSUMING THE ANSWER IS NO.
BUT I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ANSWER IS UNTIL THEY ANSWER ITSELF SO COST PROHIBITIVE. BASICALLY. YEAH COOPERATION. BECAUSE PUBLIC IS THE HOW BIG IS EACH AND SCORES FOOTAGES EACH FOUR STORY. FOOTAGE. EXISTING EXISTING I DON'T. LIKE THE SAME 18,006.
TRADITIONS ARE ROUGH. $3 FOR SO WHAT I'M GETTING AT IS SO I DIDN'T HEAR THE ANSWER THE QUESTION SO TELL ME WHAT'S THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE TOP FLOOR? 9000 LIKE DALLAS. YOU CAN ALWAYS VISUALLY LOOK AT THE BUILDING IN THIRDS AND SAY. EACH FLOOR IN THIRDS IS 3000 SQUARE FEET 333.
ON TOP OF 33 AND THREE THIS IS TWO MORE THREES. ALAMEDA. I DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE ARCHITECTURE. HMM I DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE ARCHITECTURE THEY MIGHT
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CURRENTLY DO. I DON'T KNOW THE ARCHITECTURE ITSELF DOESN'T BOTHER ME AND ACTUALLY LIKE HOW YOU TOOK THE PROCESS. MY DAUGHTER WENT HERE FOR A WHILE, TOO. I LIKE ANYTHING ACROSS SPACES INSIDE THE BUILDING AND BROUGHT ON THAT SIDE. I THINK THAT WAS PRETTY. GENIUS TYPE.COME TOGETHER AS WELL. YES, THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE PACKET. BUT I STRUGGLE WITH MOSTLY IT'S JUST THAT THE FLOATING FEELING OF IT RIGHT? AND I THINK FOR ME LIKE THIS COLUMN RIGHT HERE, SENATOR THE WINDOW ABOVE. IF THERE WAS ANOTHER ONE HERE, SO WE DIDN'T FEEL LIKE MYSELF FLOATING IT WOULD HELP RESOLVE. THE COLUMN THAT'S CURRENTLY NEAR WHERE IT MEETS THE EXISTING BUILDING. IF THAT CAME YEAH, SHE HAD SITTING ON DOUBLE ROW OF COLUMNS. IF YOU ADDED HERE ONE OF THIS AND ADDED A SECOND ONE RIGHT THERE. CORRECT RIGHT UNDER THE SENATE AND THE VENDOR LIKE THIS ONE CENTERED SO YOU'D SEE IT HERE. AND THEN ANOTHER WAY HERE. DO YOU EVEN NEED THREE COLUMNS? BECAUSE YOU TAKE YOUR EXISTING COLUMN ON THE BUILDING LINE. POET AND CANDIDLY WITH THE SAME WAY YOU CAN'T LEAVING OVER THE OTHER WAY. AND YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO WORKS ON OUT AROUND. YOU'VE GOT ONE WINDOW WORTH HANGING OVER THE EDGE. YOU COULD HAVE ANOTHER WINDOW HANGING OVER THE EDGE AND GOT TWO COLUMNS IN THE MIDDLE. THEY'RE SYMMETRIC. UM SAME LOAD BEARING. IT'S JUST A QUESTION OF AND YOUR SPANNING DECREASES. I'M AN ENGINEER. JUST NOT A NOT A MECHANICAL PERSON VILLAGE IN. YOU'RE SAYING LIKE HALF OF THE WATER. HUH THIS COLUMN RIGHT HERE AGAINST THE WHITE WALL. THAT ONE WINDOW WITH OUTBOARD. SO IT MATCHES THIS REWARD IS ONE WINDOW WITH AND FROM THAT EDGE. YOU CAN SEE TO CARLOS UNDERNEATH THE BUILDING IS HIDING. THIS ONE'S HIDING, WHICH MAKES THE WHOLE THING FLOAT, I THINK WHAT MAKES IT FLOWS. THAT'S WHAT MAKES IT FLOAT IN MY MIND. I WAS SAYING THE SAME THING YOU WERE, YOU KNOW, BUT AND I LIKE THAT. THE PROBLEM IS, YOU CAN'T PUT IT OUT ON THE EDGE OF THE BUILDING BECAUSE, UM IT TAKES AWAY TOO MUCH PARTNER. PRINT COLUMNS THAT I GUESS. WELL. YEAH. WORK. YOU CAN'T BELIEVE. SO IF IT WAS A FREESTANDING BUILDING, IT WOULD BE SYMMETRIC. AND IT HAVE CANTILEVERS ON BOTH ENDS, EXCEPT FOR THE ONE CANTILEVER TOUCHES ANOTHER BUILDING. YEAH YOU CAN KEEP THE LARGER SIZE FOR BOTH OF COLUMNS. YEAH. THAT WOULD WORK FOR ME. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF. IF THE COLUMNS DIDN'T CHANGE IN SIZE. THE CHANGED INVISIBILITY IF THEY WEREN'T GRAY, FOR EXAMPLE, ALL THE WAY UP. WITH THAT. MAKE THEM APPEAR BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THEY'RE NEGATIVE. AND THEY GO AWAY. IF THEY WERE MORE EXCEPT FOR THE CONCRETE BASE, WHICH IS GOING TO BE BRIGHTLY COLORED PEOPLE ASKED ABOUT CAN YOU BRING THE BASE UP TO GET THE VISUAL IMPACT? CAN WE DO THE VISUAL IMPACT WITH COLOR? IF THAT WAS A MEDIUM GRAY AS OPPOSED TO THE DARKER GRAY. YOU WOULD SEE IT VISIBLY. YOU WOULDN'T HAVE IT BE WHITE, BECAUSE THEN IT WOULD BE BE THE FOCAL POINTS. DO YOU WANT TO BE? NOTICEABLE BUT NOT OBJECTIONABLE. AND DOES THAT GIVE US THE IT'S NOT FLOATING. I CAN SEE THE TWO COLUMNS. THAT IT'S SITTING ON. YEAH I THINK THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. YOU KNOW, I THINK OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION FINDS IT APPROPRIATE TO PUT A CONDITION AS SUCH, I WOULD I WOULD DEFER THAT AND LET THE CITY ARCHITECT DETERMINE IF IT'S A DIFFERENT COLOR WOULD BE APPROPRIATE. I DO THINK TO KIND OF CHIME IN ON BRINGING THAT ONE FROM THE BUILDING OUT. I DO THINK THAT NEEDS OF THE SPIRIT INTEND TO WHAT OUR CITY ARCHITECT WAS GETTING AT. ADD ADDITIONAL COLUMNS, YOU KNOW, JUST BRINGING AWAY FROM THE BUILDING. I THINK THAT IS A SOUND SOLUTION. BUT AS FOR COLOR , I GUESS I WOULD DEFER AND ALLOW OUR CITY ARCHITECTURE DETERMINE WHAT THE APPROPRIATE COLOR AS TO MAKE SURE WE'RE JUST STILL MEETING THAT TRADITIONAL, YOU KNOW, DESIGN. I DON'T WANT TO GO AGAINST THE TRADITIONAL DESIGN FOR THE SAKE OF VISIBILITY. YEAH BECAUSE ONLY A TOUCH LIGHTER WHEN HE REQUIRED TO MAKE IT STAND OUT WITHOUT MAKING IT STAND OUT A LOT. ARE THESE FLUSHED WITH OUTER EDGE? AT LEAST THE OUTER COLUMNS THEY'RE NOT ONLY CAN'T LEAVE IN ONE DIMENSION. SO THEY'RE NOT IN THE SHADOW OF THE BUILDING. RIGHT? YEAH. SO THEY TAKE FULL SUNLIGHT. THEY'RE NOT IN THERE IN THE SHADE OF THE BUILDING. SO THEY WON'T DISAPPEAR. THE INTERNET IS GOING AWAY. AS SOON
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AS IT GETS DARK AND THEN HAVING TO BE SLIGHTLY LIGHTER. MAY HELP PEOPLE WHO ARE GETTING READY TO NOT BASH THEM WITH THEIR CAR SPOT THE GRID.MR CHAIR. YES I WOULD JUST REMIND THE COMMISSION THAT THE CONDITION OF APPROVAL THAT WE, UM SUGGESTED WAS NOT ONLY TO USE DOUBLE COLUMNS, BUT UM. THE USE OF DOUBLE DOUBLE COLUMNS OR ANOTHER DESIGNED TO LESSEN THE APPEARANCE OF THE BUILDING FLOATING UM AND STEVE CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. BECAUSE I AM NEW HERE, BUT I THINK WE KIND OF LEFT IT OPEN ENDED AS THE DOUBLE COLUMNS AS ONE SUGGESTION. BUT IF THE COMMISSION UM, HAD, YOU KNOW.
COMFORTABLE SENSE THAT THERE'S MULTIPLE SOLUTIONS THAT IT COULD BE OPEN ENDED FOR THE APPLICANT TO WORK WITH THE CITY ARCHITECT. THAT'S FAIR. I WOULD BE CONCERNED THAT YOU WITH AN OPEN ENDED, IT COULD BE TWO COLUMNS OR 12 INCHES APART THE WAY IT'S WORDED, AND I WAS NOT TOO COMFORTABLE WITH THAT. I DON'T WANT ONE. MR KIRBY SAID, WHICH IS MORE OF THAT EQUAL SPACING ACROSS THERE. I THINK THAT WOULD FEEL MORE APPROPRIATE AND TAKE AWAY THAT I'D LIKE TO NARROW IT DOWN. THE APPROVAL SHOULD HAVE THEY'RE FAIRLY SPECIFIC. GUIDELINES OR DIRECTIONS TO WHERE WE THINK THE DESIGN SHOULD GO. BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN ENOUGH CONCERNED REGISTER COMMISSION MEMBERS THAT I DON'T AND THE ARCHITECTURE ALREADY APPROVED, THIS ONE IN WHICH DEPENDING ON THE COMMISSIONER, NOT FANS OF SO I THINK WE SHOULD GET TRACTION. PASSION. I AGREE. SO, UM. AND IT TAKES THREE VOTES TO PASS. WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT MOVING THE COLUMN OUT OR WE STILL WHERE YOU AT ON THIS, OKAY? YEAH, FOR SURE. I MY HOME. THOUGHT PROCESSES. THIS IS A VERY CREATIVE WAY TO ALLOW VERY SUCCESSFUL BUSINESS STAY WITHIN THE AVERAGE CONTINUE TO GROW, I THINK JUST SOLVES A LOT OF PROBLEMS, AND I THINK IT'S VERY I'M SORRY, DAVID. OKAY. HEAVEN COLUMN. MHM OPINIONS ON THE SCREENING COLOR FOR THE COMMISSION BECAUSE WE'VE HEARD IT BOTH WAYS. DIFFERENT FOLKS. MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE THE LIGHTER COLOR. EVEN APPLICANTS SUGGEST THAT MATCHES THE THEY JUST BUILDING POSSIBLY. MAYBE LIKE GREG. GREAT, BUT EVEN BE BETTER, ACTUALLY, LIKE GREAT. I THINK THAT IT'S GOING TO FEEL LIKE SOMETHING POPPING UP ON THERE. KEEP THE DARKER COLORS. WELL, IT'S I WANT THAT TO BE A CONSIDERED DECISION BECAUSE I CAREFULLY DISAGREE WITH STAFF AT BEST ON THINGS BECAUSE THEY'RE PROFESSIONALS IN THE ROOM, AND WE'RE VOLUNTEERS. UM SO OTHER THOUGHTS ON COLOR. DAVE THOUGHTS ON COLOR OF THE SCREENING. BUT ON COLOR FOR THE SCREENING OF THE ROOFTOP MECHANICALS. OKAY. FOR OTHER COMMISSION MEMBERS SYSTEM. I MEAN, IF THE CONSENSUS OF ONE COMMISSIONED AS IT SHOULD BE THE MINOR OF COLOR THAT I WOULD SAY LIGHTER COLOR, YOU KNOW? YOU KNOW, SUBJECT TO THE APPROVAL STAFF OF HMM. THAT'S.
IF WE WANT TO GIVE BECAUSE THE ARCHITECTS ALREADY SIGNED OFF ON THE DARKER COLOR, TOO, SO WE'RE GOING IN DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS OF WHAT SORT OF BEEN SIGNED OFF ON. I THINK WE NEED TO GIVE DIRECTION. GET MR WORKS DIRECTION, I THINK WHAT WE THINK ABOUT. OKAY, AND FOR THE APPLICANT SO THE WAY THIS WORKS IS YOU CAN ASK US TO VOTE TONIGHT, AND WE WILL, UM, YOU
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CAN ASK US TO TABLE IT. IF YOU THINK FOR POSSIBLE REASONS. ONE IS TO BRING MORE INFORMATION OR TO GET MORE INPUT FROM CITY STAFF, NOTABLY THE CITY ARCHITECT. UM AND ALSO SO JUST FIVE MEMBERS. AT THE NEXT MEETING. HOPEFULLY THE NEXT MEETING, NOT A GUARANTEE, BUT, UM ONE OF THE YOU MIGHT AS WELL KNOW HOW TO WORK THE SYSTEM TO YOUR ADVANTAGE, AND ONE OF WHICH IS YOU NEED THREE VOTES TO PASS. FUN. SO WOULD YOU LIKE US TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS? BUT WE.HERE WAS THE CONDITIONS ARE ADVISED. UM I WOULD HAVE IT AS THAT. THE SCREENING. IS A LIGHTER COLOR SUBJECT STAFF APPROVAL AND THAT THE UM. CONDITION TWO WOULD BE THE GUIDANCE ON CONDITION TO CONDITIONS AND SORT OF STAYS, BUT THE GUIDANCE IS THAT WE BRING OUT THE INNER COLUMN TO MAKE A BALANCED PAIR OF COLUMNS. THAT ARE VISIBLE. AND. QUESTION IS SUBJECT TO ARCHITECTURE, CITY ARCHITECT APPROVAL. OKAY? WHAT'S UP? BUT THAT'S. WHAT DO YOU SAY? STAFF APPROVAL, OR YOU, INCLUDING THE CITY ARCHITECT, AND BECAUSE THE SECOND ONE WAS SUBJECT TO THE CITY ARCHITECT PERSONAL ESTABLISHED, WE'LL MAKE SURE STAFF INCLUDES CITY ARCHITECT, OKAY? UM. HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF. IF YOU AND THE APPLICANT CAN'T COME TO AN AGREEMENT, WHERE DOES IT GO? SO IF WE CAN COME TO AGREEMENTS HISTORICALLY, IT'S COME BACK TO THE PLANE. OKAY I'M GOOD WITH IT. THAT'S WHERE I WANTED. THAT'S EXACTLY THE ANSWER. I WAS FISHING FOR. OKAY, SO IF WE HAVE TO DECIDE. HEY PROFESSIONALS. HERE'S YOUR GUIDANCE. THAT'S NOT ENOUGH GUIDANCE. WE GET IT BACK. ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WHICH TO SPEAK ON THIS, MR KIRBY, DO YOU HAVE TO OTHER CONDITIONS THAT YOU'RE CONSIDERING ACCORD DATE TREE RELOCATION WITH ARBORIST. I THINK IS ONE AND PROVIDES SIGHT DISTANCE TRIANGLES AT THE PROPOSED GROUP CUT UNLESS THAT WAS PART OF THE ENGINEER'S REPORT, WHICH I THINK IS PART OF IT WAS A NICE GAME. OH, AND THE OTHER WAYS ADDRESS THE ENGINEERS COMMENTS. I PRESUME YOU HAVE NO CONFLICT. THE ENGINEERS COMMENTS SO OUR THIRD CLARIFYING THANK YOU. ARTHUR. CONDITION IS ENGINEERING. I THINK IT'S ALWAYS A CONDITION ANYWAY. WASN'T ACTUALLY IT SHOULD BE A REQUIRED YEAH REQUIREMENT. IN THE SUMMER.
SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT. IN THE SPIRIT OF BEING VERY SPECIFIC. I THOUGHT I'D BRING THAT UP. THANK YOU. YOU CAN BURN YOUR KEEP TONIGHT. YEAH ONLY ONE OF US WHO GETS PAID TO DO THIS STUFF. ALL RIGHT. UM SO IF PEOPLE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD ON THIS, I'VE BEEN TAKING NOTES. DO YOU WANT ME TO MAKE THE MOTION ORDER? WOULD YOU CARE TO MAKE A MOTION SO YOU WANT TO MOVE FORWARD? I MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT THAT STAFF REPORT AND RELATED DOCUMENTS INTO THE RECORD FOR FINAL DEVELOPMENT MODIFICATION 81 DO I HEAR A SECOND ON THE REPORTS AND DOCUMENTATION? I SECOND THAT.
DISCUSSION ON THE DOCUMENTS MOTION. ANY OTHER. OH, PLEASE, MR. KIRBY MR LARSON? YES? MR SCHELL? YES, MR WALLACE? NO. AND I GOT NO BECAUSE I AS I SAID EARLIER, I THINK THIS IS A VERY VERY FINE. DOCUMENTS REPORT. THIS IS JUST A DOCUMENT. SORRY THE DOCUMENTS, OKAY? THAT'S WHY I SAID WHAT I CALL GOING NOW I THINK HE'S PLAYED HIS HAND. THERE WAS NO YOU WEREN'T BEING SUBTLE BEFORE. THAT'S WHY. WHEN I CALL FOR DOCUMENTS MOTION, I'M ALWAYS HAMMER THE EXCITED. OKAY I MOVE FOR APPROVAL. FINAL DEVELOPMENT MODIFICATION 81 OF 2022. SUBJECT OF THREE CONDITIONS, THE FIRST TWO BASED LOOSELY ON THE ONES IN THE STAFF REPORT SCREENING OF THE ROOF NEW ROOFTOP. MECHANICALS IS TO BE A LIGHTER COLOR. UM AND WE'RE NOT BEING SPECIFIC ABOUT WHETHER IT'S WHITE OR GRAY, BUT IN SUBJECT TO STAFF APPROVAL. SECOND. WE'RE NOT THERE YET.
ABSOLUTELY CONDITIONS. MY SECOND . YEAH SAYING THAT STAFF INCLUDED CITY ARCHITECT INCLUDES THE CITY ARCHITECT. UM THE OTHER DESIGN ELEMENT IN CONDITION TWO YEARS TO BRING OUT THE INNER COLUMNS TO MAKE THEM EVEN SO, WE HAVE THE A BALANCE BETWEEN THE COLUMNS THE ROUGHLY ONE WINDOW
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IN ON EACH SIDE. UM AND AGAIN SUBJECT STAFF APPROVAL, NOTABLY THE CITY ARCHITECT. THIRD CONDITION IS SUBJECT TO THE ENGINEERING COMMENTS IN THE STAFF REPORT. DO I HEAR A SECOND? DISCUSSION. THE MOTION. STAFF. ARE WE CLEAR ON CONDITIONS? I HEAR THE ROLL, PLEASE. MR KIRBY? YES, MR WALLACE. MR SCHELL? YES. MR LARSON? YES. I VOTED? NO BECAUSE I FEEL THIS IS ANOTHER, EVEN THOUGH THIS IS A VERY FINE PROPOSAL. AND I THINK. THE AFRICAN DID THE BEST THEY COULD, UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES. I THINK WE'RE AGAIN. WE'RE TRYING TO SOME. SOME AFRICANS ARE TRYING TO DO TOO MUCH ON THE PROPERTY THEY HAVE. AND I'M AFRAID THAT WE'RE SACRIFICING. UM COULD AESTHETIC DESIGN. FOR FUNCTIONAL PURPOSES AND IN THIS SITUATION, I AM NOT IN FAVOR. THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER BUSINESS BEFORE THE COMMISSION TONIGHT? OH, AND GOOD LUCK. ONE THIRD REPORT. AFRICANS BRIDE. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.THANK YOU. GOOD. LISTEN, IS AT FIVE. IS THE APPLICANT. SORRY NO OTHER BUSINESS FROM STAFF, BUT I
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GUESS I SHOULD. I DON'T WANT TO FORGET ABOUT CHELSEA. SO I THINK A LOT OF YOU MET HERE BEFORE THE THIS MEETING OR THE PREVIOUS MEETING, BUT CHELSEA IS OUR NEWEST PLANNERS. SHE'S JOINING US FROM WESTERVILLE. I THINK THIS IS HER LAST BOARDING COMMISSION MEETINGS, EVERYBODY ELSE BUT MR FIRST PLANNING COMMISSION HERE IN NEW ALBANY SHE'S TAKING OVER THE PRIMARY BOARDING COMMISSION RESPONSIBILITIES FROM CHRIS. HE'LL STILL BE HERE. HE'S STILL DOING STAFF REPORTS, BUT CHELSEA WILL BE YOUR PRIMARY COMMUNICATION PERSONNEL IN CONTACT FOR ALL THINGS REALLY SUPPORTING COUNTRIES. WE'RE EXCITED TO HAVE HER. YEAH, I THINK WE'LL SEE A LOT MORE OF IT, OKAY FOR MEMBERS FOR COMMENT PLANTS. NO COMMENT. DAVE COMMENTS, BRUCE COMMENTS NO COMMENTS WITH THAT.* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.