Nov 07, 2022 Planning Commission

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OKAY. COMMISSION MEMBERS WERE READY. ALL RIGHT. THE FOUNDATION MEETING FROM MONDAY, DECEMBER

[I. Call To Order]

[III. Action of Minutes]

GENERAL WALLACE. YES YES, MR LARSON. MR SCHELL? YES MR TABLE TO THE NEXT MEETING. OTHER

[IV. Additions or Corrections to Agenda]

[VII. Cases]

THIS REQUEST IS SHE REDZONE ABOUT 32.6 ACRES FROM RESIDENTIAL STATE DISTRICT OR THE ARE ONES IN IN DISTRICT. THE INFELD UNIT DEVELOPMENT OR I P D ZONING AREA WILL BE KNOWN AS THE SUGAR RUN ZONING DISTRICT APPLICANTS INTENT IS TO GET A HAMLET DEVELOPMENT AS RECOMMENDED IN THE ENGAGED NORMALLY STRATEGIC PLAN CONTAINING A MINISTRY OF RESIDENTIAL COMMERCIAL RETAIL PARKS AND OPEN SPACE LAND YOU SOME INSIGHT. SO JUST IN CASE ANYONE'S UNFAMILIAR WITH THE SITE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT JUST A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT, BUT THEY HAVE THE ZONING DISTRICT OUTLINED IN RED HERE IN YOUR MATH, MAJOR ROADS THAT ARE SHOWN IN THE CENTRAL COLLEGE ROAD, WHICH IS THE NORTHERN PART OF THE MACHINE HERE AND THEN STAYED AROUND 605 HERE. SOME OF THE USES THAT SURROUND THE PROPERTY . THAT OLD DISCOVERY FACILITY WHICH IS LOCATED HERE, UM, TACKLE THAT WHICH IS LOCATED GENERALLY RIGHT HERE, UM, AND THAT WE HAVE THE ENCLAVE SUBDIVISION AND THEN SOME OTHER OFFICE USERS. ERIN WALTON PARKWAY. SO JUST WANT TO TAKE SOME TIME TONIGHT TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS WHAT WE REVIEW AS PART OF THE REZONING APPLICATION, THE PUBLIC INPUT PROCESS THAT'S INVOLVED WITH THAT RUNNING CITY STAFF REVIEWS THE FOLLOWING WE REVIEWED THE COMPLIANT APPLICATION WITH THE COMPLIANCE ARE WE REVIEW THE APPLICATION IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE ENGAGEMENT STRATEGIC PLAN DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS? ALSO REVIEWED THE PROPOSAL, ZONING REGULATIONS AND OUR STAFF REPORT IF YOU HAD A CHANCE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT ZONING REGULATIONS ARE TYPICALLY BROKEN UP IN CATEGORIES. THEY LISTEN TO THE SCREEN USE SITE LAYOUTS, ACCESS LOADING PARKING, ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS, PARKLAND AND OPEN SPACE AS WELL AS UTILITIES LANDING IMPLANTED. AS PART OF THE RESULTING PROCESS. THERE ARE THREE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE PAST TO PROVIDE INPUT AND FREE PUBLIC MEETINGS. THEY'RE THE ROCKY FOR BLACK LOOK ACCORD, WHICH IS THE MEETING HERE IS LISTED IN ORANGE ADVISE REPORT AND RECOMMENDATIONS. THE NEW ALBANY PLANNING COMMISSION, THE ROCKY PART, BLACK RECORDER, DID REVIEW THE APPLICATION OF THEIR SEPTEMBER 15TH 2022 MILLION AND DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE APPLICATION UNANIMOUSLY. A GREEN BOX OR IN THE MIDDLE OF YOUR SCREEN HERE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE SCREEN, RIGHT? THIS IS THE NOMINEE PLANNING COMMITMENT AGAIN PROPERTY PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEWS AND RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CITY COUNCIL. THAT'S SOMETHING RIGHT HERE TONIGHT. UM, THE PLANNING COMMISSION MAKES HER RECORD REVIEWS AND MAKES RECOMMENDATIONS. COUNCIL TAKES FINAL ACTION ON THE REASONING APPLICATION. THE APPLICATION IS HEARD BY CITY COUNCIL, THERE WILL BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ALSO KIND OF PROVIDE PUBLIC INPUT. SURE IF THE DEVELOPER REZONING APPLICATION BE APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL, THERE IS ANOTHER STEP IN AN ASSOCIATED PUBLIC REVIEW PROCESS. UM WITH THE APPLICATION , CYNTHIA APPLICATION REFERS ONLY IN DISTRICT. APOLOGIES IS ZONED IPTV REQUIRING TO RETURN

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SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE TAKE A LOOK AT FOR FINAL DEVELOPMENT APPLICATION INCLUDED PRETTY DETAILED SITE PLAN. ARGUMENT ELEVATIONS. PROGRAMMING, IF ANY PROPOSED, UM SIZE OF UNITS ENGINEERING FANS. STREET PLANS. USUALLY PARKLAND OPENS SPEAKS PLANS, AND THAT'S JUST SOME OF THE THINGS SOME OF THE MANY, SOME OF THE MANY THINGS THAT AT THAT TIME AS I MENTIONED DUE TO THE CLASSIFICATION, THERE ARE THREE MORE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PUBLIC TO PARTICIPATE AND PROVIDE INPUT THE PARKING TRAILS ADVISORY BOARD OR THE P T. A B DOES REVIEW THE PROPOSED PLAN AND OPEN SPACE DEDICATIONS AND MAKES RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL. THE ARCHITECTURE AND BE PART OF THE ART RB IS REQUIRED BY CITY CODE, REVIEW THE APPLICATION AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE NOMINEE PLANNING COMMISSION PLANNING COMMISSION, WHICH IS WHERE WE'RE AT TONIGHT TAKES FINAL ACTION ON THE GROUND DEVELOPED PLAN. I JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE QUICK OVERVIEW OF THE PROCESS FOR FOLKS. SO THE WHAT'S ON THE SCREEN NOW AS A SITE PLAN IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT THE PAPER, BUT WE DO HAVE SOME AT THE BACK OF THE ROOM AND FOR FOUR NUMBERS ARE INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKETS. BUT THE APPLICANT TAKING THE PROPOSED ZONING REGULATIONS AND APPLYING THEM TO THE SITE RESULTS SHOWN HERE ON THIS PLAN. THE PERMITTED CASES AND ZONING REGULATIONS ARE BROKEN UP INTO FIVE SUB AREAS. SOCIAL GO OVER HERE IN JUST A SECOND. I KNOW.

SOMETIMES THESE BLACK AND WHITE SITE PLANS ARE A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT TO MAKE HEADS OR TAILS OF. SO WE ALSO DID PROVIDE, UM OVERLAID THE SITE PLAN ON TOP OF AN AREA SKIN KIND OF SEE WHERE THE PROPOSED USES WILL BE LOCATED IN RELATION TO WHAT EVEN DEVELOPED AROUND THAT. SO AGAIN, JUST KIND OF ORIENT EVERYONE THAT'S RIGHT UP HERE IN CENTRAL COLLEGE ROAD, THIS YEAR'S STATE ROUTE 605 UNCLAIMED SUBDIVISION IS LOCATED HERE TALKING ABOUT IT'S LOCATED RIGHT HERE, HUNTINGTON'S BANK AND THE DISCOVERY SITE AS THE DISCOVERY SITES LOCATED JUST NORTH OF THE SITE. AS I MENTIONED THE SITE IN OUR DISTRICT IS BROKEN UP INTO FIVE SYRIANS THROUGH WHETHER PERMITTED YOU START WITHIN EACH AREA AS YOU CAN SEE HERE ON THE SCREEN COLOR CODE, THESE DIFFERENT SUB AREAS KIND OF GIVE US AN IDEA OF WHERE THE USE CASES ARE PERMITTED TO LOCATED IN SUB AREA ONE. THE ZONING TEXT ALLOWS C THREE USES. THE USES GET INCLUDED OFFICE GENERAL RETAIL STORES, PERSONAL SERVICES , RESTAURANTS, BANKS AND BEAUTY SHOPS ARE COMMITTED. UM THAT ZONING CLASSIFICATION IN OUR CITY CODE AS WELL AS SOME LIMIT TO MULTI FAMILY UNITS THAT ARE CONFIGURED FLATS. SOME AREAS TO YOU, WHICH IS OUTLINED IN ORANGE HERE ON THE SCREEN ALLOWS FOR SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED OR DETACHED TOWN HOMES. UM AND THEN THERE IS A PORTION OF THE ZONING DISTRICT WITH THAT'S LABELED AS THE TRANSITION ZONE, AND THAT'S THIS PINK AREA HERE. THAT IS WHERE THE PERMITTED USES OF AREA ONE OR ALSO ALLOWED TO BE OPERATED. WITHIN SUB AREA TO THIS RESEARCH TRANSITION ZONE, THIS PINK AREA THAT I JUST MENTIONED ON THE SITE PLAN. THIS IS REALLY TO ACCOMPLISH ONE OF THE STRATEGIC RECOMMENDATIONS FOR A HAM UP CREATING KIND OF A MIXED USE CENTER. NEXT ACTIVITY AT THE CORE OF ZONING DISTRICT. SUPERIOR THREE, WHICH IS IDENTIFIED IN THIS NEW ALBANY BLUE OR DARK BLUE HERE ALLOWS SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED TOWN HOMES AND SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED TOWN HALLS AND THE DESIGNING TAX STATES THAT NO MORE THAN 45 UNITS ARE PERMITTED TO BE DEVELOPED IN THIS SUB AREA. NO MORE THAN 10 OF THEM ARE PERMITTED DUTIES DETACHED SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. SOUTHERN AREA, WHICH IS SHOWN AND THE GREEN HAIR GENERALLY OUTLINES THE SUGAR SUGAR RUN CREEK WILL BUY SEX GENERALLY BUY BACKS THE DISTRICT APARTMENT AND OPEN SPACE USES ARE PERMITTED TO BE DEVELOPED THEIR RECREATIONAL FACILITIES, OUTDOOR MARKETS, FOOD TRUCKS AND OUTDOOR PERFORMANCE AREAS DESIGNED TEXTILES STATE THAT ANY ATHLETIC GROUND EQUIPMENT IS REQUIRED TO TURN THEIR LIGHTS OFF. BY 10. PE LIGHT BLUE, LOCATED GENERALLY AT THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE ZONING DISTRICT. THIS PORTION OF THE DISTRICT ALLOWS A FUSES. IT DOES ALLOW SENIOR LIVING CITIES AND SUPPORTIVE USES TO BE DEVELOPED IF THOSE USES ARE NOT DEVELOPED ON THE SITE THAT ALLOWS A MAXIMUM OF 35 SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED. TOTTENHAM'S IF NO SENIOR LIVING USERS ARE DEVELOPED A MAXIMUM 25 DETACHED SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AGAIN. IF NOTHING, YOU'RE LIVING FACILITY. CORONARY DEVELOPMENT CURRENTLY

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25% OF THE AREA DEDICATED SPACE. TAX DOES RESIGN TAX ALSO STATES THAT AND THEN RETURNED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVED PART FOR THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN. AT THAT TIME, THEY PROVIDE PARKLAND OPEN SPACE MAN. SPECIAL SENIOR TEXT OVERALL IS COMMITTING AND MEETING. IN SOME CASES, THEY'RE SEATED IN THE ARCHITECTURAL STATEMENTS AND ALBANY. THIS INCLUDES DESIGNING BUILDINGS TO BE SEEN FROM 360 DEGREES, AND THEN THEY COMMIT TO USING HIGH QUALITY MATERIALS.

VINYL IS PROHIBITED BUILDING MATERIAL COMMIT TO USING BRICK, UM, LIKE A HARDY PLANK HAS BEEN USED SUCCESSFULLY IN THE COMMUNITY. AND I THINK I'M SOME REMINDER. UM UM LIKE TO MESS THINGS LIKE THAT, AND AS ACCENT FEATURES JULIANNE BUILDINGS, THERE ARE TWO LOCATIONS WHERE THE APPLICATION DOES DIFFER FROM WHAT'S REQUIRED IN THE DDR, BUT IT'S STILL IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE STRATEGIC PLANNER INUNDATION AREA. THE FIRST ONE IS THAT, UM , OUTDOORS THE WIDER THAN NINE FT IS REQUIREMENT. GRS TEXTS STATE THAT THEY CAN BE RESOURCES MAY BE WIDER THAN NINE FT. ONLY OF THE FACE AN ALLEY, WHICH WAS MORE OF A SECONDARY STREETS. SINCE ALEX ARE NOT A PRIMARY RUBRIC STAFF, LEAVING THIS EXCEPTION IS APPROPRIATE. DDR IS ALSO REQUIRE ACTIVE, INOPERABLE DORSEY INSTALLED ON PUBLIC STREETS. THE ADVOCACY MEETINGS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ONE SINGLE TENANT BUILDINGS ARE NOT REQUIRED TO HAVE AN INSURANCE ALONG CENTRAL COLLEGE. HOWEVER THE TEXT DOES REQUIRE THAT BUILDING FACADES FACING CENTRAL COLLEGE ROAD MUST INCLUDE THE ARCHITECTURAL FEATURE THAT ENCOURAGES PEDESTRIAN ACTIVITY. UM MEETING SPIRIT INTENT OF THE CJR REQUIREMENT. OVERALL THIS SIDE'S PRETTY DIFFICULT TO SEE AND HEAR, AND I REALLY APOLOGIZE BUT STRATEGIC PLAN IDENTIFIES THIS EXACT SITE BOUNDARIES LOCATION IN THE CITY FOR HIM IT TO BE LOCATED. YOU CAN SEE THAT MARKING ON THE LEGEND, UM AND I SHOULD HAVE PROVIDED WITH HIM AND I APOLOGIZE BUT IDENTIFIES THIS EXACT SITE. AS THE IDEAL LOCATION AS I MENTIONED THROUGHOUT THE PRESENTATION THAT STRATEGICALLY ALSO RIGHT DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS FOR HAMLET DEVELOPMENTS. UM THE APPLICANT, IT'S THE MEETING OR COMMITTING TO ME, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM AND I'LL GO THROUGH THEM AND JUST PROVIDE SOME BRIEF COMMENTS. WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THE GROWTH SENSITIVE A HAMLET. THIS IS AGAIN FROM THE STRATEGIC PLAN SHALL NOT EXCEED $6 PER ACRE ZONING TAX DOES STATE THAT THE MAXIMUM 16 IT'S FOR GROWTH SPEAKER OR THE MAXIMUM IS 16. IT'S BREAKER. THROUGHOUT THE PLANS. THERE'S THIS IS NUMBER TWO. STATES THAT THE HELMET SHOULD COMPRISE ABOUT 75% DEVELOPING AND 25% OPEN SPACE. AS I MENTIONED IN THE PRESENTATION, THE APPLICANT ADMITS TO ME THAT STANDARD THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS STATE THAT HAMLET SHOULD INCLUDE CIVIC GREEN SPACE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC NEAR THE CENTER OF DEVELOPED THE DIPLOMAT. THERE'S ANY TAX AND PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN. SURE THIS IS BEING MET.

DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS STATE THAT A RATIO OF APPROX APPROXIMATELY 200 SQUARE SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL USES FOR EVERYONE DWELLING UNIT PROVIDED THIS IS SURE A VIBRANT, MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT IS ACHIEVED. THE APPLICANT HAS SHOWN ARE THE APPLICATION COMMITS AND REQUIREMENT AND THEIR ZONING TAXED AND THEY'VE SHOWN IN THE PULMONARY DEVELOPMENT AND IS BEING MET. STRATEGIC PLAN RECOMMENDS THAT GROUND FLOOR AND COMMERCIAL USES AND HAMLET BE

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THE ZONING DEVELOPMENT CENTER STATE THAT THE ARCHITECTURE REVIEW BOARD REVIEW FOUND OUT AND PLANS EARLIER THIS YEAR. THE COUNCIL UPDATED CITY CODE TO REQUIRE EMULATE DEVELOPMENTS TO BE REVIEWED FIRST BY THE AIR B FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLANS TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO PLANNING COMMISSION. AS YOU NOTED EARLIER IN THE PRESENTATION, THAT IS A CODE REQUIREMENT, AND THAT IS COMMITTED TO YOU AND THE TEXT. LASTLY UM, THE DEVELOPMENT SAID STATES THAT A HAMMOCK DEVELOPED PROPOSAL MUST RISE THE APPLICABLE CHAPTERS OF THE NORMALLY DESIGNED CURRICULUM REQUIREMENTS, AND THERE'S ONLY TAXPAYERS REFERRED ALL OF THE APPLICABILITY OF THIS DDR. SO THE ENTIRE INDUSTRY IN CLOSING STAFF BELIEVES THAT IF PLANNING COMMISSION SHOULD FIND THE PROPOSAL MEETS A SUFFICIENT BASIS FOR APPROVAL THAT ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS MAY BE ADDED, WHICH ARE LISTED IN THE REPORT. AND WE ARE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU GUYS HAVE. THANK YOU. THAT'S GOOD ENGINEERING FIRST. THANK YOU, MR . CHAIRPERSON UM, SUGAR RUN IS A FEMALE STUDIED FLOODPLAIN WITH THE PROJECT AREA AND HEARD REQUIRES THAT, UH, EXTREME CORRIDOR PROTECTION ZONE BE ESTABLISHED, WHICH MOST OF THE TIMES IS WIDER. THE FEMALE FLOODPLAIN. WE COMMEND THAT NO PHILBY PERMITTED. WITHIN THE STREAM CORRIDOR PROTECTIONS. THE APPLICATION RECOMMENDS 50 FOOTER RIGHT AWAY FROM ROAD CENTERLINE DEDICATED OFF OF CENTRAL COLLEGE ROAD. 40 FT RIGHT AWAY, BE DEDICATED OFF THE CENTER LINE OFFICE STATE ROUTE 65. WE CONCUR WITH THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS. BUT AS CHRIS SAID, IF THEY FUTURE WORTH FOUND TURN LANDS REQUIRED ON NEW OPENING CONDUIT TO MAKE A RIGHT ONTO CENTRAL COLLEGE. WE MAY NEED ADDITIONAL 55 FOOTER RIGHT AWAY DEDICATED ON THAT SIDE OF THE ROAD. AND OTHER THAN THAT. ADDRESS ON COMMENTS MADE BY OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEERING. I THINK WE'RE GOOD. YEAH. STANDING AROUND SIX. JUST GETTING CLOSER TO THE MICROPHONE. MY BAD. I NEED YOU TO HELP ME TRACK. I APOLOGIZE, SO I'LL JUST REITERATE SUGAR RUN IS A THEMA STUDIED FLOODPLAIN WITHIN THE PROJECT AREA ARE CUT REQUIRES THAT THE FLOODPLAIN AND THE ASSOCIATED STREAM CORRIDOR PROTECTION ZONE WHICH IS WIDER

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HOW WE THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE A QUALITY PROJECT, YOU KNOW, PLACES LIKE THE LINKS AND BEYOND CLAVE AND OTHERS NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE REALLY SOME OF THE BETTER NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE COMMUNITY AT ONE TIME, WHERE YOU KNOW, FARM FIELDS? NOTHING IN THEM. YOU KNOW, THE LENGTHS IS A COMMUNITY WITH OVER 500 HOMES NOW. GREAT NEIGHBORHOOD. I KNOW THAT I WASN'T INVOLVED IN THAT AT THE TIME, BUT I KNOW THERE'S PROBABLY TREPIDATION AT THAT TIME ABOUT WHAT THE FUTURE HELD AND LOOK WHAT WE HAVE TODAY. SO I ASKED EVERYONE IN THE AUDIENCE TO LISTEN WITH AN OPEN MIND AND THE COMMISSION AS WELL. HERE ARE SOME CONCEPT IMAGES, CHARACTER IMAGES OF WHAT WE ARE AIMING FOR HERE, AND YOU CAN SEE A LOT OF THESE IMAGES ARE NEW ALBANY IMAGES, SOME OF THOSE ON THE RIGHT ON THE BOTTOM CORNER. THERE ARE MORE INDICATIVE OF OTHER PLACES AND IMAGES GIVE US INSPIRATION FOR SORT OF THIS MIXED USE AREA OF THE COMMUNITY . BUT HERE ON THE LEFT SIDE, YOU SEE THINGS LIKE THIS WEEK. RICHMOND SQUARE, AND THAT'S SORT OF THE VIBE WE'RE GOING FOR HERE IN TERMS OF PRODUCT TYPE AND QUALITY OF DEVELOPMENT. THE CONTEXT OF THIS PROPOSAL IS VERY IMPORTANT AS YOU CAN SEE, AND AS WE ALL WELL KNOW, LIVING AND WORKING HERE, THIS IS AN AREA WITH A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS GOING ON. WE'VE GOT THE DISCOVER CARD BUILDING JUST TO THE NORTH OF US WHO KNOWS WHAT THE FUTURE HOLDS THERE. WE'VE GOT RETAIL AND MULTI FAMILY TO THE WEST IN COLUMBUS. WE'VE GOT STEVIE G TO THE SOUTH OF US. UM AND WE'VE GOT NEIGHBORHOODS TO THE EAST OF US, INCLUDING THE ENCLAVE. UH, WE'VE GOT YOU KNOW THE LINKS NOT TOO FAR AWAY THE UPCOMING COMMUNITY TO THE NORTH. SO IF ANYWHERE IS APPROPRIATE, I AGREE WITH YOUR STRATEGIC PLAN IN THAT CONTEXT FOR SOMETHING THAT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT AND MIXED USE. THIS IS IT. SO WHY ARE WE BACK HERE? I MENTIONED THAT BACK IN 2021. WE WENT THROUGH THIS PROCESS. UM UH, WE GOT OVERWHELMING APPROVAL WITH THE FIRST TWO STAGES. WE, IN FACT, MET 11 OF THE 12 CRITERIA THAT WERE IN THE STRATEGIC PLAN AT THAT TIME, WITH THE ONE EXCEPTION BEING THE MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT, UM, CITY COUNCIL FOR THE REASONS I DISCUSSED, UM, VOTED AGAINST THE ZONING. UM NOW WE DO HAVE WE FEEL LIKE WE HAVE A LOT MORE GUIDANCE. WE WERE HAPPY TO HAVE THAT GUIDANCE. SO WE'VE DONE OUR VERY BEST TO, UM ADHERE TO THOSE NEW STANDARDS. AND IN FACT, I

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LET'S SEE HERE THAT I KNOW THAT THIS WAS ONE OF THE BIG ISSUES, WHICH WAS A RELATIVELY LARGE MULTI FAMILY APARTMENT PROJECT. UM THAT IS NO LONGER A PART OF THIS PROPOSAL. YOU'LL SEE THAT MOMENTARILY. UM, BUT REALLY, WE'VE TRIED TO INTEGRATE INSTEAD MORE OF A TOWN HOME STYLE OF LIVING. WE BELIEVE THIS WILL BE FOR SALE UNITS. WE ARE PROPOSING SOME FLATS IN SORT OF THIS MIXED USE AREA AND I'LL GET TO THAT AS WELL. THERE'S A LIMITED NUMBER OF THOSE 40. AND THERE'S NOTHING TO SAY THAT ALL THOSE WILL BE REYNOLDS. WE THINK SOME OF THOSE WILL BE FOR SALE. UM SO I WANTED TO GIVE YOU JUST SOME CONTEXT OF WHAT IT WAS YOU SAW PREVIOUSLY. THIS IS THE UPDATED STRATEGIC PLAN. YOU CAN SEE RIGHT HERE. THIS THIS IS REALLY, UM THE BIG DIFFERENCE IN THE PLAN. FRANKLY, THERE'S SOME OTHER THINGS THAT WE'VE IMPROVED. I THINK IN THE CITY, I HOPE AGREES. BUT HERE WE HAVE REPLACED THAT MULTIFAMILY PROJECT AND IT IS, UH, IT WAS NO LONGER A PART OF THIS. NOR WOULD THE ZONING TEXT ALLOW ANYTHING LIKE THAT TO BE DEVELOPED. HERE'S OUR CURRENT PLAN. I KNOW IT'S NOT IN COLOR. BUT ONCE AGAIN, THIS LARGELY MIRRORS AND A GREAT GREAT MANY ASPECTS WITH THE STRATEGIC PLAN NOW CALLS FOR GOING TO WALK THROUGH EACH OF THESE SUB AREAS SEPARATELY, THAT'S IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO READ. THE DIFFERENT SUB AREAS ARE OUTLINED HERE CHRIS IS, UH, SLIDE WAS A LITTLE BETTER THAN MINE ON THE SUB AREAS. ALL RIGHT . HERE'S THE COMPARISON OF THE AMENDED COMMUNITY STRATEGIC PLANS PLAN AND OURS. YOU'LL NOTICE HERE THAT WE HAVE THE BUILDINGS GENERALLY ALIGNING THE WAY THAT THE STRATEGIC PLAN CALLED THEM TO DO WE HAVE LARGELY AS YOU SEEN SEEN HERE MIMICKED THE CONCEPT HERE. THIS ISN'T YOU KNOW, UNIT FOR UNIT OR ANYTHING, BUT IT DOES LAY OUT, UH, QUITE QUITE THE SAME. AND THEN, UM, WE BELIEVE THIS FEATURE RIGHT HERE THAT IS, YOU KNOW, PART AND PARCEL TO THE ORGANIZING. AN ELEMENT UNDER THE STRATEGIC PLAN IS VERY IMPORTANT TO US AS WELL. AND WE ENVISION THIS AS BEING SORT OF A HUB OF ACTIVITY, NOT ONLY FOR THE COMMUNITY UH, THERE IS SURROUNDING IT, BUT ALSO THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE. HERE AGAIN. THESE ARE THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED PLAN THE NEW ONE SIDE BY SIDE. SO WHAT ARE THE DIFFERENCES HERE? UM. THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL CONTAINED 30.33 ACRES. UM THE STRATEGIC PLAN AND ITS AMENDMENT LIMITS THE HAMLET CONCEPT TO THE AREA THAT WE'RE PROPOSING FOR REZONING HERE. PREVIOUSLY THERE WAS ANOTHER LOCATION IN THE COMMUNITY WHERE THIS SORT OF DEVELOPMENT WOULD HAVE BEEN PERMITTED. LIKE IT'S THE FIVE CORNERS WE CALL IT. THE CITY COUNCIL HAS REMOVED THAT SO THIS WILL BE THE ONLY TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT OF ITS KIND IN THE CITY OF APPROVED. WE ARE NOW AT 32 POINT. SIX ACRES, AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS UM, YOU CAN SEE RIGHT HERE. THIS THIS AREA WAS NOT CONTROLLED BY THE APPLICANT AT THAT TIME, AND NOW IS WE BELIEVE IT'S A POSITIVE THAT WE WERE ABLE TO INTEGRATE THAT INTO THIS DEVELOPMENT, AND THAT'S WHY YOU SEE THAT ADDITIONAL ACREAGE. YOU'LL ALSO SEE THAT WE WERE PROPOSING 11.2 UNITS PER GROSS ACRE FOR AN OVERALL 340 RESIDENTIAL UNITS PREVIOUSLY STRATEGIC PLAN RECOMMENDS A MAXIMUM OF SIX UNITS PER GROSS ACRE FOR 195 UNITS ARE PLAYING HERE. I MAY BE OFF A LITTLE POINT HERE, BUT IT'S 5.7 UNITS PER GROSS ACRE.

IS WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW. I THINK CHRIS AT 5.8, SO IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN A ROUNDING ERROR. UM THE ONE PER 200 SQUARE FOOT RATIO OF COMMERCIAL SQUARE FOOTAGE TO RESIDENTIAL UNITS WAS MEANT I THINK BY THE CITY TO ENSURE THAT WE HAD THE PROPER MIX OF COMMERCIAL ALONG WITH THE

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UM TOWN HOMES WOULD ALSO BE PERMITTED ON THE EAST SIDE OVER HERE, ALONG WITH SINGLE FAMILY.

THERE'S A FEW SINGLE FAMILY HOMES SHOWN HERE. UM HERE AGAIN , A LITTLE BIT OF THE FLAVOR OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR THEIR THESE ARE GOING TO BE VERY EXPENSIVE AND WELL DONE, HOMES.

UM SINGLE FAMILY WOULD ALSO BE ALLOWED IN SOME AREAS TWO AND FIVE. WE'RE LOOKING TO MAYBE JUST HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A PRODUCT MIX THAT MAKES IT INTERESTING AND SORT OF DIVERSE HERE. UM WE DON'T ANTICIPATE THOSE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, ESPECIALLY IN SOME AREAS TWO AND FIVE WILL EQUATE TO MUCH OF A PERCENTAGE OF THE PROJECT, AND WE'VE ACTUALLY PUT IN SOME RESTRICTIONS IN BOTH OF THOSE SUB AREA TEXT AS TO HOW MUCH OF THAT CAN BE. SINGLE FAMILY GIVEN. MAYBE THAT HAS A LITTLE BIT MORE OF AN IMPACT ON THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. THE RESIDENTIAL FLATS. UM HERE AGAIN, 40 UNITS AS THE MAX THE HIGH END UM, FOR SALE CONDOS WITH PRIVATE PARKING , AND THEY COULD BE BOUTIQUE LUXURY RENTAL FLATS. WE REALLY THINK THIS IS A HIGHER END SORT

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AND SO, UM, WE'RE LEAVING OUR OPTIONS OPEN WOULD HAVE TO COME THROUGH AND THAT THIS WITH YOU AS THE COMMISSION FOR EITHER 55 TOWN HOMES AT A MAXIMUM OF 25 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. WE'RE NOT GOING TO MIX UP THESE USES THAT WOULD BE IN EITHER OR ON ONE OF THOSE THREE, BUT WE NEED SOME MORE TIME TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE MARKETS CAN BRING US THERE. BUT THOSE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES IN TOWN HOMES WOULD REQUIRE THE SAME COMMITMENTS AND REQUIREMENT AS ARE GOING TO APPLY UP HERE ON THE NORTH. OKAY SCHOOL IMPACT. UM I WANT TO START BY SAYING, YOU KNOW, EVERY TIME I COME IN WITH I'LL SAY THIS, I WOULD ALMOST RATHER ZONA NUCLEAR WISDOM THAT RESIDENTIAL ANYWHERE ANYWHERE IN OHIO RIGHT NOW AND CENTRAL OHIO. IT'S LIKE IT'S THE WORST THING YOU COULD BRING.

EVERYBODY HATES IT. IT'S TRAFFIC. IT'S CRIME AT SCHOOL IMPACT, BUT I'M HERE TO TELL YOU THAT, UM YOU KNOW THAT'S THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE THE CASE HERE. NOW MAYBE YOU KNOW, TRAFFIC STUDY HAS BEEN APPROVED, USUALLY BY BY THE CITY TRAFFIC ENGINEER. THAT USUALLY STILL WORK IN PROGRESS. WHEN WE GET HERE, WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WE HAVE TO DO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO, UM, FILL THOSE COMMITMENTS WITH ALL THE THINGS JUST MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY. UM WE'RE GOING TO DO OUR SHARE THERE. THERE MAY BE A TRAFFIC PROBLEM THERE TODAY. WE'RE GOING TO DO WHAT WE HAVE TO MITIGATE IT. AND YOU KNOW, DO OUR PART NOW, UM, THOSE TRAFFIC STUDIES. I MEAN, I'M A LAWYER, NOT AN ENGINEER. THEY'RE ALL A BUNCH OF GREAT TO ME. BUT UM, THEY'RE PRETTY. UM UH, IT'S PRETTY UNIVERSAL AND HOW THEY'RE DONE. THERE'S A THERE'S A TRAFFIC MANUAL THAT'S FOLLOWED.

THERE IS TRAFFIC COUNCIL WE'VE TAKEN RECENTLY DURING SCHOOL HOURS. THAT WAS AN OBSERVATION THAT WAS MADE LAST TIME THAT MAYBE WE HADN'T DONE THAT. SO WE'VE REALLY DONE IT BY THE BOOK AND WE HAVE THAT APPROVED ALREADY SO YOU CAN COUNT ON WHAT DOES IT STAFF REPORT HAPPENING AND BEING COMMITMENT HERE TONIGHT IF WE GET YOUR APPROVAL THE OTHER THING WE ALWAYS HEAR ABOUT IS SCHOOL IMPACT. SO UM, OUR ASSUMPTIONS ON STUDENTS WERE HERE. WE ACTUALLY WENT OUT AND FIRED AND HIRED THESE SCHOOL DISTRICTS CONSULTANT TODAY USED TO EAST PROJECTIONS AND WE CAME UP WITH THESE NUMBERS HERE. UM AND I'LL GET TO THE PUNCH LINE HERE IN A MOMENT THE CITY IS CHRIS MENTIONED DID THEIR OWN ANALYSIS WITH THE SCHOOLS OF WHAT EXISTING DEVELOPMENTS IN THE COMMUNITY WITH THESE UNIT TYPES ARE PRODUCING SO THESE WERE ACTUAL NUMBERS. UM POINT OUT THAT THE CURRENT ZONING OF THE PROPERTY IS ARE ALLOWING 40,000 SQUARE FEET MINIMUM LOT AREA, WHICH IS ROUGHLY ONE UNIT AN ACRE, AND THAT WOULD ALLOW 35 SINGLE FAMILY UNITS UNDER THE CURRENT ZONE, OR 29. STUDENTS UM , AS CHRIS MENTIONED BEFORE WE BOTH BOTH OUR ASSUMPTIONS, AND THESE ARE OFF, YOU KNOW, BY 1/10 OF A PERCENTAGE OR WHATEVER. OURS ARE NUMBERS IN THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT NUMBERS THAT THE CITY AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT CAME UP THAT WE'RE GOING TO YIELD 28 STUDENTS FROM THIS DEVELOPMENT. GRANTED WE WERE MAKING ASSUMPTIONS. WE DON'T KNOW FOR SURE. WE'VE SAID IT COULD GO UP TO AS MUCH AS 30 TO 37 TO 52 STUDENTS WOULD BE OUR

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IT'S ACTUALLY GONNA BE THE TYPE OF 1,350,000 ARE WHAT WE PROJECT OUR AVERAGE UNIT VALUES TO BE HERE. I JUST WANTED TO SEE WHAT THE RECENT SALES WERE IN THE LENGTH OF THE ENCLAVE KIND OF DIFFICULT TO SEE. BUT YOU CAN STORE RIGHT THERE WITH THEM, AND IN MANY RESPECTS, THESE HOMES WILL LIKELY BE EVEN ABOVE THOSE VALUES. AND SO IF WE'RE NOT HAVING PROBLEMS IN THOSE COMMUNITIES, IT'S HARD FOR ME TO BELIEVE THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE PROBLEMS HERE AS WELL. WE ALSO ASKED THE POLICE CHIEF JONES TO PROVIDE US AN ANALYSIS OF WHAT HE THOUGHT THIS IMPACT WOULD BE ON CRIME. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT MADE IT INTO YOUR PACKET OR NOT, BUT HE'S NOT INDICATE THAT THIS WOULD BE A CONCERN AT ALL. SO WE FEEL POSITIVE ABOUT THAT. UM. SO THAT BEING SAID, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT HERE AGAIN. WE'VE DONE OUR BEST TO JUST LAST TIME. BRING YOU A PROJECT. IT REALLY MEETS THE SPIRIT AND INTENDED TO PLAN THE DENSITY AS WELL, LESS UM, WE'VE LIMITED OUR USES ON SOME OF THAT COMMERCIAL. WE HAVE DONE OUR DUE DILIGENCE AND HOMEWORK. IN TERMS OF YOU KNOW THE HOT BUTTON ISSUES FOR PEOPLE SCHOOLED AT SCHOOL IMPACT TRAFFIC, CRIMINAL ACTIVITY. WE BELIEVE THIS IS ONE OF THOSE SITUATIONS. WE'RE ALL GOING TO LOOK BACK AND FIVE YEARS AND SAY, WHAT A GREAT THING FOR NEW ALBANY UH, YOU KNOW, THAT REQUIRES A LOT OF ALBUM GREECE AND WORK. YOU CAN SEE A TEXT THAT'S PROBABLY 30. SOME PAGES LONG. UM WE ARE. WE'RE TYING OUR HOME HANDS, SO TO SPEAK TO MAKE SURE WE DELIVER FOR YOU WHAT WERE PROMISING, AND WE THINK WE WILL AND WE ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT. THANK YOU. FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC. SO WHAT HAPPENED ? NEXT IS A BUNCH OF QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION MEMBERS AND FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT ARE HERE, UM, FOLLOWED BY ASKING YOU FOR YOUR QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS IN TERMS OF THE QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS. THERE IS THE SPEAKER CARDS AND YOUR NAME WILL GET CALLED AND PLEASE DIRECT QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS TO US. WE WILL PARTICULARLY QUESTIONS BECAUSE THOSE WE WILL TRY TO DO ONE AT A TIME. GET THEM ANSWERED SO THAT YOU GET THE ANSWERS THAT TO GET THE ANSWER TO THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE, UM HANG WITH US FOR A LITTLE WHILE BECAUSE THERE'S A BUNCH OF QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS COMING FROM US, WHICH I WILL START WITH ANY CONFLICTS WITH THE CONDITIONS IN THE STAFF REPORT. NO, SIR. INCLUDING THE ENGINEERING ONE ABOUT WIDER THAN THE FLOODPLAIN. THAT'S CORRECT, OK. ANY CHANCE THAT THE COMMUNICATION WITH CHIEF GERMANS COULD BE DONE IN WRITING. IT ISN'T WRITING. UM YOU HAVE IT. OKAY I MAY HAVE MISSED THAT IN THE PACKET. IT'S A THICK PACKET. I DIDN'T SEE IT EITHER. NOW, OKAY? ONE MORE CHRIS. IF YOU WOULD ONE MORE FOR THE MAKE SURE WE GET THIS IN THE RECORD WHEN WE DO THE MOTION FORWARD DOCUMENTS. THANK YOU.

OKAY. THANK YOU. WELL WE GOT HIM INTO THE RECORD MOTION FOR THE DOCUMENTS. UM QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION. I HAVE A BUNCH SO I'M GOING TO WAIT. THERE WERE A CHANCE QUICK , QUICK ONE COME. I MAY BE WRONG , BUT I RECALL WHEN THE APPLICATION CAME IN OF FOUR THAT THERE WAS ANALYSIS NOT JUST TO THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS THAT THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT MIGHT BRING BUT ALSO A FINANCIAL ANALYSIS. UM WHERE THERE WAS SOME. REVIEW OF WHAT THE TAX REVENUE WOULD BE VERSUS THE COST OF THE STUDENTS WHO ARE COMING IN. BUT I DIDN'T SEE THE EQUIVALENT OF THAT TODAY

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WE'VE MET WITH THE SUPERINTENDENT AND TREASURE. UM YEAH, I KNOW THAT THERE. I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR THEM. MAYBE IN THAT MEETING WAS IN THAT MEETING. NO OBJECTIONS. JUSTIN LEDA SIGNER ASSOCIATES. WE DID MEET WITH THE SUPERINTENDENT AND THE TREASURER. THERE WAS NO OBJECTION WE DID PRESENT VARIOUS WAYS WE RAN THE STUDENT ANALYSIS AND WE DID NOT. FORMALLY SUBMIT ANY SUPPORT LETTER FROM THEM ON THIS ROUND. I FEEL A LOT BETTER ABOUT SEEING IT IN WRITING THE SCHOOLS SUPPORTED RATHER THAN YOU'RE SAFE FROM THE MEETING. THERE WE CAN REQUEST THAT THEY JUST THEY HAD NO OBJECTION. IN AN AARON SUB ZONE FIVE. THERE WAS SOME TALK ABOUT IT. YOU KNOW SOME TYPE OF ASSISTED LIVING AND THEN GIVE YOU SOME FLEXIBILITY, SOME MORE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.

IF THEY GO THE SINGLE FAMILY HOME ROUTE DOES THAT FACTOR INTO THE POTENTIAL 52 STUDENTS THAT THE REFERENCING I HEAR YOU. LEANING YOUR MIC MAN. HMM YES, HANDS THAT THAT DOES. THAT'S WHERE THAT KIND OF BOGEY IS BETWEEN. YOU KNOW THE RANGE SO THE 52 WOULD BE AT THE UPPER END IF WE DID THE SINGLE FAMILY DOWN THERE IN THE SOUTH. THANK YOU. AND JUST TO CLARIFY JUST TO BE CONSERVATIVE. THE MEMO WE SUBMITTED OR I SUBMITTED THAT THE STUDENT PROJECTIONS ASSUMED THAT IS SINGLE FAMILY AS THE WORST CASE SCENARIO. AND JUST TO BE CLEAR THAT WOULD GET US TO THE 52 NUMBER VERSUS THE 28. WHICH IS WITHOUT THAT SINGLE FAMILY IN THE FIVE. IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT OKAY, AND THERE WAS ANOTHER NUMBER THAT WAS THROWN AROUND. 37 CAN YOU REFRESH ME WHAT THAT IS? IT IS DIFFERENT BETWEEN 52. SO IN THAT ANALYSIS CITED PREVIOUSLY I USED UH, THE LIFESPAN OF THIS PROJECT. WE'VE HAD NUMEROUS GO AHEAD, EVERYONE HAS PROVIDED DIFFERENT YIELD FACTORS. SO WE'VE BEEN ON THE SEARCH FOR THE EXACT NUMBER. SO WE IN THAT SCENARIO, WE RAN DIFFERENT CALCULATIONS BASED ON YIELD FACTORS WE USED IN 2021. THEN NEW YIELD FACTORS WHICH WERE THE ONES THAT WE RECEIVED FROM THE SUPER OR THE, UH, THE SUPERINTENDENT'S CONSULTANT SO THAT THAT VERSION WITH THE NEW NUMBERS WAS 37 WHEN WE USED THE OLD NUMBERS FROM 2021. THAT WAS WHERE THE 52 CAME OUT WITH, SO WE WERE JUST CAN'T BE TRYING TO BRACKET. ARRANGE THEN I KNOW THE CITY CAME UP WITH THEIR OWN ANALYSIS SHOWING THE 28 THANK YOU. AND THE CITY'S FACTORS LIMITED THEMSELVES TO THE ALBANY CITY LIMITS THE SCHOOL DISTRICT OFFICE SIGNALS BEYOND THAT. COULD YOU TALK TO LIKE YOURS WAS FOCUSED ON THE CITY OR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, SO I LOOKED AT THE BROADER RANGE THAN JUST THE SCHOOL DISTRICT SO THE CONSULTANT COULD ONLY DIAL DOWN TO A CERTAIN CENSUS TRACK, WHICH I BELIEVE IS IN THE PACK. THAT

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YEAH WE WON'T QUESTION. QUESTIONS. YOU'RE IN WHEN I WENT TO THE NEXT, UM OKAY? TO SEE WHERE I THERE WERE A FEW TYPOGRAPHICAL ERRORS, WHICH SOME YOU CAN WORK THROUGH WITH STAFF.

UM. BUT IF YOU GO TO PAGE 29 33 OF THE TEXT, AND IT'S ON THAT PAGE. TALKING ABOUT. TYPES OF SIGNS. AND THERE'S DISCUSSION SIBERIA ONE, AND I THINK LOOKED TO ME LIKE THERE WAS SOME BURBAGE MISSING FROM THERE. IT'S FOR EXAMPLE, THE SECOND SENTENCE IS FOR ANY MULTI TENANT TO BE LOCATED ABOVE THE DOOR FOR THE TENANT ON BOTH A AND B, THEN IT'S PERIODS THERE, I THINK SOMETHING MAY WELCOME MISSING THERE. AND SINCE THIS IS AND THIS IS TEXT FOR SIGNAGE, I THINK A LOT OF BEAT AS ACCURATE AS IT YES. UNLESS I'M MISSING SOMETHING. MAYBE NOT UNDERSTANDING HOW THAT I THINK MAYBE THERE WAS A PERIOD INSTEAD OF A COMMA THERE. AH, MAYBE.

YEAH. WELL WHY DON'T WE JUST NOTE THAT THAT THAT AREA THAT TEXT NEEDS TO BE CLEANED UP? NO, EXACTLY. I THINK STAFF IS PROBABLY PRETTY CLEAR WHAT THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE, AND I THINK WE CAN WORK THROUGH AND YOU CAN DO THAT, OKAY? IT ALSO SAYS RELATING TO I THINK IT SHOULD BE SIZE IN RELATION TO THE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN. SUPPOSED TO RELATING SO THERE'S SOME TYPE OF, BUT ANYWAY, OKAY? THANK YOU. OKAY GO AHEAD AND I'LL GET THE SITE LAYOUT PLAN.

SO THE OLD SIDE YOU WENT OVER THAT AND YOU ABOUT THIS SITE LAYOUT. THEN WE HAD BEFORE ARRIVED, AND A YEAR AGO. WHATEVER DOES BRING IT BACK UP. YEAH I THINK THAT'D BE GREAT, ACTUALLY, BECAUSE, UM, WELL, YOU HAVE A LOT OF OBJECTIONS TO IT, AND I RIGHT REASONS, RIGHT? GREAT OBVIOUSLY AREN'T GOING IN THAT DIRECTION. I THINK THE ONE WINNING FACTOR THAT THAT HAD WAS WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE CIVIC AND WHEN YOU COME IN THE CENTRAL COLLEGE, YOU DRIVE INTO THAT YOU DRIVING INTO THIS CENTURY ARENA. IT'S A FOCAL POINT OF THE DEVELOPMENT. WHEN YOU GO TO THE NEW DEVELOPMENT ESSENTIAL GREEN IS NOW THE SLOW IT'S JUST THAT'S HIDDEN WITH THE DEVELOPMENT. IT DOESN'T FEEL LIKE PART OF THE COMMUNITY, RIGHT AND AS THIS DEVELOPMENT AND TALKED ABOUT IT SUPPOSED TO BE A COMMUNITY CENTER AND SO FORTH LIKE THAT THE TRANSITION SO REALLY KIND OF DOESN'T ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO COME IN AND NEGATIVE COMMUNITY CENTER. I DON'T THINK OUT OF THE CURRENT AND RELATES TO THE CIVIC REASON. IS REALLY COMMUNITY FAMILY. UM AND I ENCOURAGE YOU TO RE LOOK AT THAT AND TRY TO MAKE THIS COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT HOUSING DEVELOPMENT THAT DOESN'T REALLY ENCOURAGE THE COMMUNITY TO COME INTO IT. KENNEDY. WE WERE MIMICKING REFORM AND THE PLAN CREATED BY THE CITY, SO THERE WAS A STRONG EMPHASIS FOR HAVING PERMANENT VIEWS INTO BUILDINGS AND HAVING IT'S LINED WITH BUILDINGS, SO WE'RE REALLY FOLLOWING THE CITY'S KEEP ON THAT ONE. WHEN WE REVIEWED THAT THE CITY SAID THAT WAS JUST AN EXAMPLE. NOT SOMETHING THAT HAD TO BE FOLLOWED. SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX WRITTEN JUST COPY PASTE . WE CAN THINK DURING FOUNDED PLAN WE CAN DEFINITELY, UH, WORK TO INVOLVE THAT THAT DESIGN AND LAYOUT. AND CONSIDERING THE PRELIMINARY BEFORE WE GET THAT FAR DOWN THE PATH MM HMM. MM HMM . HMM OK, CONSIDERATION. CERTAINLY. UM 20 ONTO 21 YOU'RE TALKING TALKING ABOUT REALLY CORRIDOR AND I'M NOT SURE IF THIS IS COVERED UNDER D OR COVERED UNDER F F IS LANDSCAPING PLAN. MY REAL QUESTION IS WHAT HAPPENS TO THE RIPARIAN CORRIDOR THAT'S MARKED THERE IN PARTICULAR TO THE UNDERSTOOD UNDERSTORY. OF THE CORRIDOR. DO WE HAVE A PLAN? BECAUSE THAT LEVEL YEAH. INTEND TO STILL TO TRY TO LEAVE CLEANUP, INVASIVE SPECIES YOUR AND THEN WHERE AT

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LEAVING UNDERSTORY IF WE CAN, YES. UM TO BE CONFIRMED DURING THE FINAL. I'M QUITE PLEASED TO HEAR THAT, BECAUSE NORMALLY THAT'S A FIGHTER. UM WHETHER OR NOT WE HAVE A MANICURED PARK OR WHETHER WE HAVE A YEAH, THE DISTINCTION. WE ARE LOOKING FOR MORE THAN NATURAL. PARK SAID. SK FOLLOW. I THINK, ERIN. YOU TOUCHED ON THIS IN YOUR COMMENTS, BUT IN THAT SUB ZERO, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE AREA OF SUB ZERO AREA FIRE. CORRECT. UM I THINK YOU MENTIONED THAT THE GOAL OR THE PLAN WOULD BE FOR THERE TO BE PARK. SALES. MM HMM. ETCETERA AND THAT AREA IS THAT IS THAT CORRECT BEFORE. PARK FIVE. EXCUSE ME? YEP SORRY. SO IN THAT, UH, IN IN SIBERIA CORRECT. CORRECT AND THAT WILL GO ALL THE WAY OVER. UM EAST OF 605 SEPARATE TRAILS IN THAT AREA. ON THE EAST SIDE OF SIX. OH FIVE O'CLOCK, CORRECT. OKAY. THANK YOU. WHAT WERE THERE HAVE TO FIND THE PAGE NUMBER? UM 8.7 TALKS ABOUT MOST PATHS. THAT'S CORRECT. IS THAT FLOOD? FLOOD UH , PORTIONS ARE YES. GOOD IDEA TO HAVE LUNCH IN THE FLOODPLAIN. WE ARE AMENABLE TO OTHER OPTIONS FOR JUST TRYING TO NOT I'M NOT ONE FOR GIANT AMOUNTS OF PAYMENT, BUT IT'S DEVISED FLOODING FAR BETTER THAN THE MULTI DOES BECAUSE OTHERWISE YOU'RE DOWNSTREAM NEIGHBORS ALL THE REMOTE FOR FREE, UM, NOT WITHIN THEIR CREEK. UM CAN LET ME ACTUALLY LET ME ASK VILLAGE.

THEIR COMMENT ON THAT IS THAT THE REST OF THE VILLAGE STAFF AGREE OR SOMETHING ALONG THAT LINE. ABOUT MULCH PASSED AND THE FLIP PLANE SO THE CITIES WE SHOULD TRAIL MASTER PLAN RECOMMENDS AN EIGHT FT LEISURE ASKED FOOT ASPHALT. USE YOUR TRAIL ALONG ALL THESE CORRIDORS , RECOMMENDATION. THE UH, BASED TRAIL WILL BE A PAVED TRAIL. I KNOW THE APPLICANT HAD LOOKED INTO DOING AT. MAYBE SOME OFFSET SOME MINOR TRAILS THROUGH THERE . I THINK THE DEFAULT AND WHAT WE'VE FOUND SUCCESS WITH IS THE TRAIL. IS THERE ANY PROBLEM WITH A NARROWER PATH? NO NOT NECESSARILY, UH, THAT IS SOMETHING WE'VE DONE IN OTHER AREAS OF THE CITIES, EITHER TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PRESUMING, UM LANDMARK TREES OR THERE'S OTHER ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES ON SITE. WE HAVE CERTAINLY LEFT TRAIL SORT OF EVAN FLOATING WITH TO A COMMENT EXISTING CONDITIONS . SURE BECAUSE OF THE POINT HERE IS WE'D LIKE AN EFFECTIVE RAIL. WE LIKE TO NOT PAYING THE PARK BECAUSE THAT SEEMS TOTALLY BACKWARDS. EVERYBODY WILL DO. AND SO, UM. SO WE HAVE REVISITING ON THE MULCH. HMM. I GET TO SEE WHAT? LET ME REREAD THE TEXT 27. NOW THE FLEXIBILITY BATTLE. YEAH. WHICH. DOES LOOTED HERE SHOULD CREATE. I'M NOT SURE WHY THEY WANTED SOMETHING ALRIGHT, IMPACT. IT'S NOT FLOATING AWAY. IT HAS A FAR LESS IMPACT ON THAT. ON THE NATURAL SURROUNDINGS. THAT'S WHAT I READ HERE. SORRY. THAT'S RIGHT, TRYING TO GET CLOSE AND LIKE, UM , STEPH, ARE YOU COMFORTABLE WITH THAT BEING, UM ALSO TO, UM SO STEPHANIE FLEXIBILITY ON THE PATH. UM. PAGE 14 AND 18. WE'RE STILL GETTING IT WRONG WHEN BOX TRUCKS UM REMEMBER THE TIME WE TRIED THIS LANGUAGE, AND IT WAS SORT OF BROKEN BECAUSE WE WERE CALLING PICKUP TRUCKS IS THINGS YOU COULD PARK IN FRONT OF YOUR HOUSE, WHICH I'M SURE THERE'S A LOT OF MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY TO BE SHOCKED TO FIND THAT THEY WERE NOT ZONED TO PARK THEIR TRUCK. UM I THINK FOR OFFERING VEHICLES, YOU MEAN MOTORIZED VEHICLES THAT ARE NOT HIGHWAY LEGAL. YOU DON'T MEAN BOXES,

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I THINK IT'S BASED FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE AND REVIEWS THIS SO MANY TIMES WE CAN REVISIT ON 14 AND 18 AND POSSIBLY ELSEWHERE. RIGHT. UM KEEP GOING THROUGH THERE. STUFF STRATEGY.

ADDRESSING THE CONDITION. UM YEAH, I WAS GONNA SAY THAT A LOT OF THE LANGUAGE CLEAN UP THAT THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT PEOPLE. THE LANGUAGE BETWEEN UP STAFF APPROVAL WILL PICK UP THE ONES AS WELL. LANGUAGE WAS NOT CLEAR. THIS DID NOT DIFFERENCE, BUT FOR CLARITY. IT'S SEVERAL BECAUSE WE'RE CHEATING TEXT. FUTURE PAGE 32. TALKING ABOUT APPEALS. WE START TO SOMEWHERE IN HERE ABOUT TAKING IT TO THE GROWING OFFICER , AND IT SAYS SOMETHING ABOUT HIM AND FOR YEARS, RESULTING OFFICER WAS NOT AGAIN. HMM. SO IT WOULD. SHUT UP. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT. THE INTENT IS STILL THE SAME. FISHERMEN. JUST YEAH, YEAH. SO WE'VE GOT 100 FT OF WIDTH. ON THE RIPARIAN CORRIDOR.

100 MEETINGS. UH, OKAY? INTERESTING BECAUSE I THOUGHT I CUT OFF ONE OF THE PROGRAMS THAT IT WAS 100 FT OR SURE, SO THERE'S ACTUALLY MULTIPLE LAYERS OF REGULATIONS THAT APPLIED SUGAR RUN CITIES. BASE CODE HAS THE RIGHT PERIOD CORRIDOR, WHICH CALLS FROM PRESERVATION AND THAT'S OUR TYPICAL 100 FT. SO YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A MINIMUM OF 25 75 ON THE OTHER, AND THAT ALLOWS THAT CORRIDOR TO SORT OF , UM, YOU KNOW, NOT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE CENTERLINE ON THE STREAM.

IN ADDITION TO THAT THE CITY ALSO HAS A FLOODPLAIN ORDINANCE. SO THIS IS 100 YEAR FLOODPLAIN THAT LIMITS CERTAIN TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT. IN FACT, IT'S VERY RESTRICTIVE. SO THAT ALL APPLIES HERE AND THEN. ADDITIONALLY THE APPLICANT HAS ALSO ADDED A STREAM CORRIDOR PROTECTION ZONE . IT'S NOT IN THE CITY CODE. THIS IS AN ADDITIONAL SELF IMPOSED RESTRICTIONS AND REGULATIONS THAT APPLY TO SUGAR RUN, AND THAT'S WHERE THEY ADDED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY CAN PUT THINGS LIKE BENCHES AND TRAILS. UM THROUGH THAT CORRIDOR THERE, AND THAT IS THAT'S WHERE THE 100 85 CONTROL. YEAH AND THAT'S WHERE THE 185 AND THE LINES AND THEY ALL ARE STACKED UP IN EACH OTHER, BUT DON'T NECESSARILY CORRESPOND, BUT THEY ALL ARE APPLICABLE IN THIS CASE. UM WE'VE HAD SOME DIFFERENTIATION BETWEEN THE LARGER AND SMALLER STRINGS ON THE BLACK ROCKY FORK IN PARTICULAR, WE'RE AT 150. SUGAR RUNNING ROSE AROUND WERE LESS YEAH, I THINK IT DEPENDS ON MANY FACTORS SORT OF LIKE THE CHANNEL IZATION OF THE OF THE CREEPER STREAM. UM, AND THEN ALSO, I THINK THAT THE TRIBUTARY AREA AS WELL, SO I THINK IT'S ENGINEERED ENGINEERS DETERMINE THAT FLOODPLAIN AND THAT STREAM QUARTER PROTECTIONS BUT 1 85 WERE AS BIG AS WE'VE GOT FOR THE BLACK LOOKING FOR THE RIGHT WORK . THINK THAT'S LARGER THAN MOST , UM, THAT WE SEE IN THE CITY JOB NORMALLY HAVE TO FIGHT FOR THAT. ONE THING I REMEMBER FROM OUR PRESENTATION LAST YEAR CONCERNED ABOUT ITEMS IN THE FLOODPLAIN, STORMWATER OR ANY PAVING, SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT EQUIPMENT EVEN FROM CITIES. CONCEPTUAL MASSING PLAN, OKAY, WE MADE ALL THOSE GINGER'S TALK ABOUT STREET NAME FOR WAY FINDING BECAUSE IN PARTICULAR FOR SOME OF THE TOWNHOUSES, THEY SOME OF THEM PLAY 605 AND SOME CENTRAL COLLEGE THE INTERIOR ONES IN SIBERIA TO AND SUMMARY TOO. I THINK ONE OF THOSE AND THEY HAVE ALLIES BEHIND THEM, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE A STREET IN FRONT OF THEM. YOU'VE GOT THE CORE HAS TO THEM THAT PACE EACH OTHER OVER A LITTLE GREEN. BUT THEY'RE NOT ON THE STREET. WHAT IS THEIR STREET AD? HOW DO WE DO WAY FINDING FOR GUESTS LIKE THE FIREFIGHTERS AND M S? SO I CAN ACTUALLY ANSWER THIS, TOO. SO WHEN WE HAVE THE APARTMENTS CONSTRUCTED THAT MARKET AND MAIN HERE AT THE ROUNDED OUT WE HAD A SIMILAR CONDITION WHERE THERE WAS WHERE THERE ARE UNITS THAT FRONT ONTO THE DRIVES IN THE PARKING LOT THERE AND THE CITY WORKED WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AMS AND HACE TO DETERMINE APPROPRIATE STREET ADDRESSES. WE ACTUALLY CREATED STREET NAMES FOR THOSE PRIVATE DRIVES. SO IF YOU GO ACTUALLY ON THE BUILDING THEIR SIGNS. I THINK ONE OF THE NAMES IS STROUD. AND THAT ACTUALLY IS THE NAME OF THE

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OKAY? RESIDENTIAL OVER RETAIL IS THAT ALLOWED IN THE TRANSITION ZONE. I WAS NOT SURE IF I WAS HEARING THAT RESIDENTIAL RETAIL WAS ALLOWED AND WHERE IT WAS ALLOWED, AND THAT WOULD LAY OUT.

YES, IT DOES. YEAH CURRENTLY NOT SHOWING IT IN THE PLAN. UM IT IS . IT IS ALLOWED. OKAY. IS THAT IN ANY OF THE UNIT CALCULATIONS ARE CURRENTLY YOU DON'T HAVE IT THERE. THEREFORE THERE'S NOT ANY IN THE RESIDENTIAL UNIT 88 BECAUSE WE DID NOT INCLUDED. IT'S ALLOWED. BUT NOT CURRENTLY ACCOUNTED FOR. IT WOULD JUST MEAN IF WE DID, THE 40 FLATS WOULD COME TO BE SHIFTED OVER INTO A DIFFERENT LOCATION, OKAY? THAT'S. OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COMMITTEE MEMBERS HAVE ONE QUICK ONE. THAT SORT OF FOLLOWS NEIL'S, UH, QUICK ON PAGE FOR AS IT RELATES.

PRIVATE DRUGS HAS BEEN A HOT TOPIC, AND THERE ARE LAST COMMISSION MEETINGS. UM IS ALL ARE ALL OF THE STREETS. PUBLIC STREETS WITH THE EXCEPTION IS LOOKS LIKE MAYBE IN SOME AREAS THROUGH THOSE WOULD BE PRIVATE DRIVE BY READING THAT CORRECTLY IN SECTION THREE AND PAGE FOUR.

IT'S UM SARAH. IT'S REALLY AROUND THE PARKING LOTS. UM, HOPEFULLY CAN BRING UP IN THE, UM. SORT OF THE MORE COMMERCIAL FEELING OR ACTUAL COMMERCIAL AREAS HERE TO BE THESE INTERNAL DRIVE. I'LL HEAR EVERYTHING HERE AND HERE WITH THE PUBLIC, EITHER BREEDER AND ALLIE. OKAY THANK YOU. THINK OF THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN WILL PROBABLY WHEN WE BRING US AND WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE THAT CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DEFINE IT AS BEST I COULD.

WHAT'S AN ALLEY VERSUS PRIVATE DRIVE? BUT IF YOU THINK OF GOING OVER I WON'T HELP. IT ISN'T THE BEST EXAMPLE OVER THAT TIM HORTONS AND BLUE AGAVE. THEY ARE THAT'S PRIVATE DRIVE RIGHT? WOULDN'T DO NOW WITH BECAUSE THIS IN SIBERIA ONE IS THE DISCUSSION REGARDING THE CONNECTION TO LIKE THE TACO BELL AND THE HUNTINGTON'S BANK. IS THAT CORRECT? YES. THANK YOU.

AND YOU MENTIONED THAT THERE'S BEEN DISCUSSIONS WITH THE SCHOOL DISCUSSIONS WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAVE THERE BEEN DISCUSSIONS WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. YES. YES, THERE HASS AND RESPONSES AND WE MODIFIED THE PLANET DOESN'T IT'S HARD TO SEE. BUT THERE ARE ONE REQUEST WAS TO MAKE SURE WE PROVIDE. IT CAN KIND OF SEE A DASHED LINE HERE. THEY JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE COULD PROVIDE SECONDARY MEANS OF EGRESS THERE IF REQUIRED. EMERGENCY EGRESS.

IS THAT IN THE TEXT ANYWHERE AH! OR ON ONE OF THE PLANS. OKAY? I BELIEVE THAT VERY AGREE, BUT WE'LL LOOK HERE.

IT IS ON PAGE 20 LITTLE INTEREST SETS THE TEXT STATES THAT THEIR UM ONE OR MORE MAINTENANCE ACCESS EMERGENCY ACCESS FOR OTHER SERVICES MAY BE INSTALLED TO SERVE THE SOUTHERN AREA. WHEN DO WE KNOW WHEN TO PULL THE TRIGGER ON THAT? HE SAYS, MAYBE BE IN THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT STAGE. OKAY, SO YOU COULD BE SHOUTING WITH THE POLICE FIRE AND HAVE A TERMINATION BY THE TIME COMING TO AND I DON'T MIND MAKING THE IF YOU WANT A FIRMER COMMITMENT HERE. I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE REQUIRED THAT USUALLY YOU KNOW DUAL ACCESS SO WE CAN MAKE THAT CHILD. UM ON YOUR, UM PUBLIC VERSUS PRIVATE TO ANY PRIVATE YOUR IVS BORDER. UH THE END OF THE DEVELOPMENT.

PARTICULARLY WHEN I'M LOOKING AT IS WORK. IS THAT PUBLIC? THE EAST WEST OR THE OR THAT THE

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IN THE TEXT VERSUS JUST APPEAR. RICKEL HEIGHT IN THERE SO THAT WE WOULD SAY ALONG CENTRAL COLLEGE AND SO FIVE THAT AT ONCE YOU GET TO TWO STORIES, THE FACADE HAVE A BREAK THAT WOULD GO BACKWARDS LIKE A REFINED OR SOMETHING, UM, INSTEAD OF ALLOWING IT TO GO UP 40 FT BEFORE THEY COULD LITERALLY WAIT. START RIGHT NOW. IT CAN REPORT IT FEEL BETTER BREAK. AND THAT COULD SQUEEZE IN THREE STORIES. TECHNICALLY I G G E R S ARE STRICT AT AND IT DOES, I DO REQUIRES SLOW GROOVES. SO IN THE TEXT THAT WE HAVE A DIFFERENT SHOW ANYTHING THAT RESTRICTS THAT CREWS ARE RECORDED IN THE TEXT. REQUIRED NUMBER SECTIONS CORPORATE EFFECTS. SOME OF THE.

SO HAS SLIPPED THROUGH FROM SOMETHING THAT SUFFER SOME OF THE SUB AREAS. SO THAT WE HAVEN'T CALLED IT OUT OR DEFAULT INTO THE GRS AND WILL BE REQUIRED TO ADHERE TO THEM. WE HAVEN'T CAUGHT ANY EXCEPTION TO THAT SORT OF THING YOU WANT TO ADD TO THAT. NOW, THAT'S ACCURATE. YET ANYTHING THAT'S SILENT IN THE PD TEXT WOULD FALL TO THE CITY CODE APARTMENT IS

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YEAH, FOR DAYS ON THIS FOR ME, YOU MIGHT INTERESTING QUESTION. LOOK AT THE PERCENTAGE GROWTH I WAS LOOKING AT. MAINLY A COMPARISON WITH THE PRIOR STUDYING. IF YOU GIVE ME A FEW MINUTES, I CAN GIVE YOU A PERCENTAGE GROWTH OF THE DEVELOPMENT TO WHAT IS CURRENTLY EXISTS. WE WELCOME THAT FIRST AND FOREMOST CONCERNED WITH THE PRIOR PRESENTATION WAS RELATIVE TO THIS. I'M CONCERNED WITH THIS IS OH TO THE CURRENT TRAFFIC. THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT FACTOR IN WHAT KIND OF GROWTH WE CAN ANTICIPATE. YOU KNOW, YOU CAN ESTIMATE HOW MANY CARS MAY COME IN AND OUT OF THE DEVELOPMENT. BUT WHAT IS THAT, IN ADDITION TO WHAT IS ALREADY ON CENTRAL COLLEGE AND 605 SCHOOLS AND CORPORATE TRAFFIC SO I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND THAT DO YOU NEED A COUPLE OF MINUTES TO DO THAT? YOU NEED TO COME BACK LATER. WHATEVER DO YOU WANT AT THE INTERSECTION OF SIX OF SEVEN CENTRAL COLLEGE? BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THE NUMBERS CHANGES.

YOU COULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THEY ARE AT THE INTERSECTION. I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THEY ARE THE DEVELOPMENT SOUTH OF THERE OR THE ENTRY ROADS ARE COMING ONTO 605. WHAT KIND OF IMPACT THAT MAY HAVE THERE. RELATIVE TO WHAT IT IS THE UNDERSTANDING THOSE ARE MAJOR MAJOR ENTRANCE POINTS . WHAT I'LL DO IS I'LL SPEND A FEW MINUTES I'LL GET YOU THE PERCENTAGE ON CENTRAL COLLEGE THAT THE DISCOVERY SITE UH, 605 AT CENTRAL COLLEGE AND THEN ALSO DO DOWN SNYDER. LOU HOW DOES THAT SOUND? THAT'S FINE, GOOD STARTING POINT FROM WHERE WE WERE, UH, SECOND POINT IN TERMS OF THE SCHOOLS. THE NUMBERS CAN VARY FROM 28 TO 52, DEPENDING ON WHAT YOU INTEND TO DO DOWN IN AREA FIVE ETCETERA HERE. GIVE IT A SENSITIVITY TO SCHOOLS AND ENROLLMENT. PARTIALLY WHERE WE HAVE THAT, UM ENROLLMENT STUDY. AS PART OF ALL THESE DEVELOPMENTS, WAS THERE ANY ENTERTAINMENT TO THIS SOUTHERN PORTS NUMBER FIVE OR THE EASTERN PORTION OF 605, A 55 AND OLDER COMMUNITY? CERTAINLY REDUCES THE IMPACT ON SCHOOLS. SO IT'S NOT. WE DID NOT PLAN ON THAT FROM A ACTUAL RESTRICTION OF ANY SORT, BUT THE PRODUCT TYPE WE HAVE AT IS BASICALLY GEARED TOWARDS 55 CUSTOMER. 55 OLDER COMMUNITY. ANY REASON NOT TO. THE ADMINISTRATIVE COST AND.

HEADACHE LONG TERM FOR A COMMUNITY WITH A NUMBER OF UNIT THEN IT IT MAKES IT DIFFICULT TO

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CERTAIN EXTENT, IT'S IT IS A IS WHAT THE COMMUNITY WILL IS ABOUT HOW WE WANT OUR PARKS. AND DO WE ACTUALLY WANT HMM. AN ACTUAL NATURAL FEATURE. OR A PARK FOR THE PEOPLE, BECAUSE IF YOU WANT WILDLIFE AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT THEY UNDERSTAND CRITICAL PARTICULAR DOWN THE STREAM CORRIDORS BECAUSE EVERYTHING IS AN ASPHALT, BUT THAT'S WHAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS. SO OKAY. WE GET INTO ARCHITECTURAL AND OTHER THOSE THINGS WILL COME TO BEAR. UM WHERE YOU TALK ABOUT THE FLAT . SOME WILL BE FOR SALE. SOME WILL BE, UM, POTENTIALLY RENTED . YOU TALKED ABOUT PRICE POINT ON HOMES. WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? IN TERMS OF PRICE ON FLATS, SINCE SOME OF THOSE MAY BE RENTED AH, THE RENTAL FLATS. UM I SUSPECT WE'RE PROBABLY IN THE 2500 MONTH RANGE. HOW MANY SQUARE FEET PER UNIT TO GET COMPARATIVE. WE HAVEN'T FORMALLY DEFINED IT. BUT THOSE ARE PROBABLY, UH, 1100 SQUARE FOOT RANGE. 911 100 SQUARE FEET. IS THAT COMPARED TO DEPARTMENTS IN THE CENTER OF TOWN ADMINISTRATION? SORRY HOW DOES THAT COMPARE TO ADMIT IT? THE CENTER OF TOWN RENTAL RATES PER SQUARE FOOT. I AS A COMPARISON. I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE ANY DATED. COMPARE THOSE ON THE RENTAL RATES FOR THE CURRENT MARKETING DEPARTMENTS. OKAY? PRODUCT OF THAT TYPE IS GENERALLY GOING FOR ABOUT $2 A SQUARE FOOT OR HIRE A LOT OF THE THIS TYPE OF PRODUCT IS GOING TO GO FOR UPWARDS OF $2.40 A FOOT OR OR EVEN MORE, OKAY? JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND BECAUSE YOU COMMITTED IT TO BE UPSCALE AND TRYING TO UNDERSTAND. LET'S GET COMPARATIVELY. TO WHAT SO I THINK THOSE WILL BE IMPORTANT GOING FORWARD. EQUALITY PERSPECTIVE MEAN EQUAL. BUT AGAIN, IT'S A VERY IT'S A VERY LIMITED NUMBER, OKAY? QUESTIONS I HAVE OKAY? UM I KNOW WE HAVE A HUGE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WANT TO TALK. OH ARE YOU READY? OKAY. I WAS GOING TO TAKE A SHORT BREAK IF YOU NEEDED MORE TIME, BUT IF YOU'RE READY, LET'S GO. NO.

TRYING TO DEATH. UM SO. IN THE AM AND PM THE PERCENTAGE INCREASE IS BASICALLY THE SAME.

SO CENTRAL COLLEGE AT THE DISCOVERY SITE. THE SAME TRAFFIC HAS ROUGHLY 5. TWO CURRENT VOLUMES THAT'S SOME COLLEGE AND ROUTE SIX OR FIVE. IT ALSO ADDS ROUGHLY 5, MAYBE A LITTLE LESS.

AH SIX OR FIVE DOWN AT SNYDER LOOP. THE PERCENTAGE INCREASE IS AROUND 7% AND THIS IS BOTH IN THE AM AND PM. YEAH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU DO ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO ADD WITH THE NUMBER? I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING THAT WE'VE GOT SOME MORE. THAT'S FINE. ALRIGHT UM, LET'S TAKE A 10 MINUTE BREAK BECAUSE WE'VE ALL BEEN STANDING HERE, PEOPLE, NOT YET IT DOWN AND MOVE AROUND AND THEN WE'LL GET BACK HERE. THE PUBLIC COMMENTS HIS STAFF READY HAS YE, STAFF IS READY. IF WE COULD ALL TAKE OUR SEATS FOR THOSE OF US WHO HAVE THEM. WE'LL GET STARTED. SO FIRST THE WORD TO ALL OF US WHO HAVE LIKES LEAN INTO THE MIX, THEN ASKED TO EMPHASIZE THAT SO FOR ALL OF US IF YOU CAN REACH YOUR HAND TO THE MIC, PULL IT TOWARDS YOU, SO

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OUR NEXT SPEAKER. THE NEXT THING I HAVE IS DUBBED BURNING. MY NAME IS DOUG BURNETT. 69 69 BORN DRIVE AND CEDAR BROOK. LIFT UP CLOSER. KEEP LEANING INTO IT. ALRIGHT, SO I LIVE IN CEDARBURG.

UM. FIRST OFF. I WANT TO THANK THE CITY, NEW ALBANY BECAUSE WHEN WE WERE HERE LAST YEAR NOT

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SAYING THAT THERE ARE TWO HAMLETS SITES AVAILABLE. THIS IS ONE OF I THINK THESE NEED TO BE SPECIAL. THERE'S TWO NEED TO GET IT RIGHT. THERE'S NO LONGER 20 ONLY ONE. THIS IS IT NOW IT'S EVEN MORE IMPORTANT. SO HMM. NOT JUST MEETING THE STANDARDS OF SPIRIT AND INTENT OF IT, BUT ACTUALLY GOING BEYOND THAT. I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD EXPECT. I CAME IN THINKING THAT WITH THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT THERE WOULD BE BETWEEN THE LAST VERSION AND THIS VERSION THAT WE REALLY SEE SOMETHING THAT WOULD. WOW, THAT'S ALL. I DON'T SEE THAT HERE. I SEE SOMETHING THAT'S PRETTY MUCH COOKIE CUTTER. I DON'T THINK IT TAKES ADVANTAGE OF THE SLIGHT TO BE ABLE TO LIES TO STREAM. IT SEEMS JUST TO BE SO BLOCKED OFF. UM. IT MEETS DENSITY BUILDING HEIGHT SETBACK SCREEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS, BUT THE DESIGN AND LAYOUT SEEMS TO BE A LITTLE MISSING. THE ONLY OTHER THING I'D SAY IS TRAFFIC TALKED ABOUT TRAFFIC ON SIX OR FIVE. IF YOU DRINK SIX OR FIVE, YOU WERE DRIVING DOWN THERE TRYING TO GET THROUGH TOWN. EARLY IN THE MORNING WHEN SCHOOLS COMING IN YOU'RE NOT GONNA YOU'RE GONNA BE STUCK IN A LINE OF PRODUCTS FOR SOME TIME. ANY ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC COMING FROM THE DEVELOPMENT IS GONNA JUST MAKE IT JUST MAKE THAT WORSE. THIS IS MY COMMENTS AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR WELCOME. THANK YOU. THE NEXT. THE NEXT. UH HAVE I APOLOGIZE IF I MISPRONOUNCED YOUR LAST NAME, BUT COURTNEY BLOOD. SORRY MY NAME'S COURTNEY FLOWS I LIVE IN WENTWORTH CROSSING. UM I AM HERE BECAUSE I DON'T MAKE CONCERNED AS TO WHY THE HAMLET SUGAR ROUND DOES NOT BENEFIT THE CURRENT NEW ALBANY RESIDENTS HERE. UM YOU KNOW, THE CENTER ASSOCIATES HAVE RECENTLY RELEASED INFORMATION ON THE UPSCALE CONDOS THAT THEY ARE PLANNING TO BUILD OVER AT MAIN STREET AND SIMILARLY LOCATED IS THAT LARGE BOTTLE AND THEY'RE BEHIND BS. AND THAT COULD HAPPEN THIS PROJECT OR SOMETHING A LITTLE SMALLER SCALE BUT VERY SIMILAR TO THE HAMLET THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING HERE. IT ONLY MAKES SENSE. CONTINUE FILLING OUT DOWNTOWN ALBANY WITH SIMILAR TOWN HOMES AND HUNDREDS ARGUMENT CONDOMINIUM, UM AND FLAT AS WELL AS RESTAURANTS, RETAIL BUT IF YOU LOOK AROUND MAIN STREET, WE STILL HAVE A SPACE, THEREBY THE HEIGHT CENTER THAT HAS NEVER BEEN UP, SO I'M NOT SURE WHY.

LOOKING AT THESE SPACES IN TOWN WHERE WE ALL WANT TO CONGREGATE. YOU THINK THAT THERE'S ANY NEED FOR A STRIP MALL WITH ALL OF THIS, UM RESTAURANT AND RETAIL SPACE? I DID ANYONE THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE FULFILLED? NO I REALLY DON'T THINK THE HAMLET NUMBER PUZZLE LEVEL WILL EVER BE A SELF SUSTAINING PROJECT. A GOOD REFERENCE FOR THE FACT IS THE L C COMMUNITY LOOKED AT ONE MILE WEST OF THIS PROPOSED SITE. HE HAS A SIMILAR CONCEPT. TOWN HOMES, APARTMENTS, RETAIL SPACE , THE RETAIL SPACE HAS SAT MOSTLY EMPTY FOR YEARS AND THE BUSINESSES THAT HAVE TRIED TO SURVIVE THEIR SHUTTERED VERY QUICKLY. ANOTHER TAKEAWAY FROM THIS COMPARABLE ELSIE COMMUNITY IS THE LACK OF THE TRANSIENT COMMUNITY OF THIS SIZE BRINGS WITH HIM EVERY WEEK, YOU'LL SEE COMMUNITY AND THE SURROUNDING AREAS ARE INUNDATED WITH STREET RACING, CAR BREAKING AND ROBBERY. ADDING THE PROPOSED HAMLET AT SUGAR RUN ONE MILE WITHIN THIS L C COMMUNITY IS FUELING THE CRIME FIRE. TWO OF THE REASONS CURRENT IN ALBANY RESIDENTS COME HERE. AND CHOOSE TO BUILD THEIR LIFE HERE IN NEW ALBANY IS TO GIVE OUR CHILDREN AN EXCELLENT EDUCATION AND ALSO TO RAISE OUR FAMILY HERE BECAUSE IT'S SO SAFE. SUGAR RUN IS GOING TO STRIP THE RESIDENTS ON THE NORTH SIDE OF NEW ALBANY OF OUR SAFETY. FURTHERMORE IT IS, IT DOES NOT SOUND LIKE THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR THE CITY COUNCIL WANTS TO ENTERTAIN THIS PROJECT ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF 1 61. I'M NOT SURE WHY YOU'RE NOT WILLING TO PROTECT BOTH SIDES OF NEW ALBANY EQUALLY. I DON'T KNOW WHY THE PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED MAIN STREET ECONOMISTS ARE GOING TO START AT $1.5 MILLION. WHILE THIS PROPOSAL IS AT BEST HALF THAT VALUE IT LOOKS TO ME LIKE WE'RE CREATING AN ECONOMIC DIVIDE WITHIN NEW ALBANY. SO I'M ASKING YOU THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO RECOMMEND CITY COUNCIL THAT THEY DECLINED TO REZONE THIS PROPOSED LOCATION FOR THE HANDLING OF SUGAR RUN.

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MAKE THEM COME BACK WITH A TRUE PLAN SO THAT MY NEIGHBORS AND I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT OUR FAMILIES ARE FACING. THANK YOU. WELCOME. OKAY? NEXT ONE. I HAVEN'T APOLOGIZED. MISPRONUNCIATION LAST NAME GENERAL DOUBLE DOUBLE. HELLO MY NAME IS JENNIFER DOUBLE I LIVE AT 53 50 SNYDER LOOP AND, UM. THREE POINTS, SOME OF WHICH YOU MAY BE ABLE TO ANSWER OTHERS . UM, I'M NOT SURE. THE FIRST REFERS TO THE UH, LETTER FROM THE FROM NEW ALBANY SPECIFICALLY DATED OCTOBER 25TH. I BELIEVE IT WAS THE UM, TRAFFIC IMPACT. STUDY SUMMARY ON PAGE THREE, THE CITY ENGINEER. TRAFFIC RECOMMENDATIONS INCLUDED THAT 605 WILL NEED TO BE WIDENED TO THREE LANES IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE INSTALLATION OF LEFT HAND TURN LANES. I'VE HEARD NOTHING ABOUT THAT TONIGHT AND I WANTED TO KNOW IF SIX OR FIVE WILL BE WIDENED TO THREE LANES BETWEEN WALTON PARKWAY AND CENTRAL COLLEGE. FOR IT IS THAT IS THAT A GIFT DEFINITELY WOULD HURT WITH THIS PROJECT. YES IT'S PART OF THIS PROJECT ALONG 605 BETWEEN CENTRAL COLLEGE AND I BELIEVE WALTON PARKWAY. YEAH THE THAT IT WILL BE WIDENED INTO A THREE LANE SECTIONS WILL BE ONE LANE OF TRAFFIC INTO DIRECTION AND THEN LEFT HAND TURN LANES INTO EACH ONE OF THOSE INTERSECTIONS AND ALL THE WAY DOWN. YEAH I UNDERSTAND. COLLEGE DOWN THE LENGTH OF THIS DEVELOPMENT DOES IT ALL DOESN'T GO ALL THE WAY TO THE NEXT INTERSECTION. BELIEVE IT IS ONLY UNTIL ONE PARKWAY AND I'LL LOOK AT THAT. YEAH PARKWAY. LOOK AT OUR CITY TRAFFIC ENGINEER TO CONFIRM IN THE STUDY. I HAD RECOMMENDED THAT THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF 605. B THREE LANES. UM, THE STUDY. WAS BASICALLY SAYING, WHY DID THREE LANES AT THE INTERSECTIONS? THANK YOU COULD NARROW DOWN IN BETWEEN THE DRIVEWAYS, BUT THERE ISN'T MUCH DISTANCE OF A TWO LANE AREAS, SO MY RECOMMENDATION WAS JUST WIDENED UP. PULL FILM. AND IF THAT'S THE CASE YOU HAD MENTIONED EARLIER THAT, UM WE NEED 40 FT FROM THE CENTER LINE. FOR ON ON 605. BUT 55 FT IF YOU HAVE A RIGHT TURNING RAIN DO YOU NEED 55? FT IF YOU HAVE THREE LANES ALL THE WAY DOWN, OR DO YOU STILL ONLY NEED 40 FT.

THERE'S PROBABLY DIFFERENCES BETWEEN INSIDE AND THE OTHER AND I'LL LET THE TRAFFIC FOLKS AND YES WHERE WE HAVE THREE LANE ROAD. WE HAD RECOMMENDED 40 FT EACH SIDE OF THE ROAD. UP ITS CENTRAL COLLEGE WHERE WE ARE THINKING WE MAY NEED A FUTURE NORTH BONG RIGHT TURN LANE.

ADDITIONAL WITH ON ONE SIDE OF THE ROAD. SO WE MADE IT 55. JUST IN THE AREA. THANK YOU. THAT HELPS, UM WE UNDERSTAND THAT BETTER ADDITIONAL ON THE SAME PAGE. YOU SAID COORDINATION WITH

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THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN IS THAT WE CAN OWN IT, MAINTAIN IT. WE WANTED TO LEAVE AND ALL OF THOSE POSSIBILITIES IN CASE IT WAS, IN FACT, PUBLIC AND WE WERE, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC MAY WANT TO SEE THOSE THINGS HAPPEN. UM YOU KNOW, FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE. THOSE THINGS THAT COST IF WE, UM PROBABLY PREFER NOT TO BE SOME OF THOSE THINGS, BUT IT BECOMES A PUBLIC PARK. IT'S A DIFFERENT STORY. THOSE WOULD BE OUTSIDE THE 100 FT ZONE AND OUTSIDE THE RIGHT PERIOD CORRIDOR. RIGHT, RIGHT. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S GOING TO BE I MEAN, YOU WOULDN'T TYPICALLY IN A PRIVATELY OPEN SPACE, BUT RESTROOMS IN THOSE SORTS OF THINGS THERE, SO THAT'S REALLY INTENDED. IT IS A PUBLIC PARK TO RE OPEN THAT POSSIBILITY . MAYBE THAT'S SAYING YOU COULD DO THAT, ANYWAY, BUT WE WANTED TO BE SAFE. OKAY? ARE YOU UP THERE? DO YOU WANT TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS ABOUT SUBSECTION FIVE? I MEAN, FRANKLY, I DON'T. WE'RE HAVING SIDEBAR OVER HERE. I DON'T THINK WE EVER GET 55 DOWN, HOMES DOWN THERE. WE WERE HEARING, THEN TAKING A LOOK AT THE PLAN AND, UH, JUST KIND OF TRYING TO HEAR WHAT IT WAS DOING. UM AND WE COULD REDUCE THE NUMBER OF TALIBAN UNITS BY

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TODAY THERE IS NO REASON TO REZONE THIS TODAY. SO WHAT I HEAR OFTEN IS ENGAGED. NEW ARMY PLAYING EMBRACES AN IDEA CONCEPT LIKE THIS. LET'S TALK ABOUT ENGAGED. NORMALLY THE NUMBER ONE REQUEST ENGAGEMENT OR 48% OF RESPONDENTS SAID DYING. NUMBER TWO WAS PARKED AT 32% LET ME GO DOWN A LITTLE BIT. MULTI FAMILY 3. RESPONDENTS WANTED MULTI FAMILY. BUT INTO NEW ALBANY. SO THIS REALLY HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ENGAGEMENT. SOME PEOPLE WOULD SAY, WELL, IT'S ABOUT ECONOMIC DIVERSITY AND THE ABILITY FOR ENTRY LEVEL HOUSING INTO NEW ALBANY IF I HEARD THE NUMBERS, RIGHT 607 $150,000 DOES NOT SOUND LIKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE AN ECONOMIC STEPPING STONE INTO NEW ORLEANS AND I REALLY DON'T THINK IT'S OUR PLACE TO WORRY ABOUT. I WOULD. ALSO IT WAS JUST BROUGHT UP BEFORE THE UNKNOWNS. SEEMS LIKE NO ONE SEEMS TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE DISCOVERY PROPERTY THAT'S WITHIN THE CITY'S CONTROL. I THINK MR

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THINK VERY CLOSELY ABOUT THIS. WE HAVE ZERO CONTROL OVER WHAT IS CURRENTLY OWNED BY OHIO HEALTH. SO WHATEVER HAPPENS THERE IN THE CITY OF COLUMBUS. WHAT YOU'RE DOING OVER HERE COULD SEVERELY IMPACT THAT EITHER WAY. GOOD BAD ON BOTH SIDES. WE NEED CONTROL WE CONTROL. WHY WOULD WE WANT TO BRING A DENSITY BOMBING RIGHT HERE? I THINK IT'S A HORRIBLE IDEA. THAT'S A RATE OF FIVE. THERE WAS A LOT OF TO BE ANNOUNCED, OR TO BE DETERMINED.

THAT IS THAT THAT DOES NOT MAKE ME FEEL COMFORTABLE. AND I THINK AS A AS A GROUP. YOU SHOULD NOT FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH JUST AUTOMATICALLY APPROVING SOMETHING THAT WE'RE WILL GET BACK TO YOU. WE'LL LET YOU KNOW ABOUT THAT. THAT MAKES ME VERY CONCERNED. ALSO WHY WOULD WE WANT TO BRING AN ORGANIZATION LIKE THIS OR AN OPPORTUNITY LIKE THIS IN THE NEW ORLEANS? WHEN WE HAVE UNITS LITERALLY ACROSS THE STREET? THAT'S EMPTY RIGHT WITH FOOD. ONE OF THESE OTHER SPEAKERS THERE'S NO REASON TO BRING DIRECT COMPETITION AND TO NORMALLY WHEN WE CANNOT TAKE CARE OF WE HAVE RIGHT HERE IN THE DOOR ZONE AND IN THE CITY CENTER ZONE. THERE'S NO REASON FOR THAT. UM I WAS HERE IN FRONT OF THIS GROUP JUST TWO MONTHS AGO, SINGING THE PRAISES OF NEW SUBDIVISION THAT'S GOING UP RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO ME. AND YOU GUYS, WHAT'S PAINT STICKING INTO GREAT DETAILS ABOUT TREES THAT HAD EIGHT INCH DIAMETERS ARE GREATER, AND THIS TREE WAS GOING TO BE SAVED. AND THIS TREE WASN'T THERE'S LOTS OF BEAUTIFUL TREES HERE, AND I HEARD ONE QUESTION ABOUT BECAUSE I HAVE A FEELING A LOT OF THIS IS JUST GONNA GET WHACKED. RIGHT AND WE'RE NOT SO WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME ABOUT TREES MONTHS AGO FOR NINE HOUSES TO GO IN, AND WE'VE NOT WORRIED ABOUT ONE TREE TODAY. I DON'T REALLY WORRY ABOUT TREES, BUT I'M JUST POINTING THAT OUT. UM SO MY LAST POINT. UM NO. NO WAS WITH US LAST YEAR. MR STEINER WAS NICE ENOUGH TO COME AND ENGAGE A GROUP UP AT THE LINKS AND AT ONE POINT HE WAS ADAMANT ABOUT THE REASON THAT HE MUST HAVE NEARLY 400 UNITS, AT LEAST FOR THE ECONOMIC VIABILITY OF THE OF THE DEVELOPMENT AND HE WAS RESTAURANTS SURVIVE WITHOUT LESS UNITS THAN THAT, AND THAT OTHER RETAIL WOULDN'T SURVIVE. SO NOW FAST FORWARD A YEAR LATER AND DOWN TO 188 UNITS, AND SOMEHOW WE STILL THINK THEY'RE GOING TO SURVIVE. SO HE WAS IN PUBLIC, EXPLAINING THAT SO I'M JUST A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. THAT'S ALL I HAD. I WOULD ENCOURAGE THIS GROUP. TO REJECT THIS. REZONING REQUEST OR MAKE A MOTION TO REJECT IT. YOU HAVEN'T EXACTLY RIGHT AS IT IS OWNED TODAY. THANK YOU. OKAY CAN CAN YOU SPEAK ON? WHAT WOULD THE SCHOOL ECONOMICS IMPACT SCHOOL B OF 36 HOUSES ON CAR ONE COMPARED TO THIS IMPACT ON THE SCHOOLS. ECONOMIC IMPACT ON SCHOOLS FROM THIS DEVELOPMENT VERSUS BEFORE THIS, THIS THIS AS PROPOSED AND COMPARED TO 36 HOUSES ARE ONE SAME. WITH OUR SAME SAME FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF STUDENT GENERATION FINANCIAL IS MUCH. I MEAN, IN THAT POSITIVE OF HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS GUARANTEED WAY POSSIBLE. FOR WHICH I WANTED TO BE REALLY CLEAR. THIS PROPOSED ACTION HAS COMPARED TO, UM DEVELOPING 36 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. THIS WOULD BE A POSITIVE THE SCHOOL DISTRICT THIS PROPOSAL OF HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS A YEAR. ERIN COULD MORE THAN 36 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES END UP BEING PUT IN THERE. THAT WOULD REQUIRE A REZONING. BUT UNDER TODAY'S ZONING, IT WOULD BE 36 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. OKAY SO THAT SOMEBODY COULD COME IN WITH ANOTHER REZONING APPLICATION AND PUT IN AN APPLICATION FOR MORE THAN 36 HOMES. THAT'S RIGHT. BUT YOU CAN COME IN COME IN TODAY AND WITH NO COMMISSION MEETINGS AND SIMPLY APPLY FOR BUILDING PERMITS. ASIDE FROM ANY ROAD PLANNING. UM I'LL JUST JUST ONE QUICK THING. THERE HAS BEEN SOMETHING PRETTY SIGNIFICANT HAS CHANGED WITH THE WORLD WE LIVE IN AND OUR LOCATION. ONE WORD CALLED INTEL. THAT'S A BIG DIFFERENCE HERE IN TERMS OF WHAT INTEL UM, THAT'S THE BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THEN AND NOW IN TERMS OF THE VIABILITY OF THE COMMERCIAL. OKAY? AND I WILL POINT OUT FOR THE RECORD THAT SOMETHING LIKE THIS HAS BEEN ENVISIONED IN PLANNING DOCKET FOR DOCUMENTS FOR THE VILLAGE.

IT WAS VILLAGE THEN, SHORTLY AFTER THE ADOPTION OF THE ROCKY WORK BLACK, OF COURSE, WHICH I THINK WAS 25 YEARS AGO. OR THEREABOUTS THAT THE VERY FIRST BLACK LIQUOR ACCORD HAD A HAMLET

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UM I'VE BEEN HERE FOR LIKE KIRK HAS TO ECHO A COUPLE OF COMMENTS HE'S ALREADY MADE, SO I'LL TRY TO GO QUICKLY. I WILL LOST ARGUE THIS DOES NOT MEAN THE ENGAGED INVOLVED IN STRATEGIC PLANNING.

THE PEOPLE OF NEW ALBANY SAID THEY WANTED IT DINING AND PARKS AND LEISURE, NOT MULTI FAMILY. I DIDN'T SEE A LOT OF CLAMORING FOR MORE RETAIL. WHAT I TAKE THAT, AS IS THE PEOPLE OF NEW HARMONY DO NOT WANT DENSITY. IT'S KIND OF HARD TO SEE HERE JUST SOUTH OF THIS IS THE ONE SCHOOL WE HAVE. AND THAT IS THE ONE ROAD ON 605. EVERYBODY NORTH OF 1 61 TAKES TO GET TO SCHOOL IF I READ THE DOCUMENTS, AND I HOPE I GET THE NUMBER, RIGHT? I THOUGHT I SAW ROUGHLY 225 NEW TRIPS PER DAY. ESTIMATED FROM THIS PLAN. NOW THERE ARE THREE EXITS. MAYBE 1/4. MAYBE 1/4 BUT THREE EXITS, MOST OF WHICH INDEFINITELY IN SOME VERY FIVE WHICH EXIT ON THE 605. ADDING TO AN ALREADY CONGESTED ROUTE TO SCHOOL. ADDING MORE TRAFFIC ON THE ROAD WHERE KIDS RIDE THEIR BIKES TO SCHOOL. SOME KIDS MIGHT WALK THAT MAKES IT DANGEROUS. WE HAVE ALREADY HEARD FROM ONE MOTHER IN THAT AREA THAT SAID, IF THIS GOES THROUGH MY KICKING, NEVER RIDE HIS BIKE TO SCHOOL AGAIN. THAT IS A MAJOR SAFETY CONCERNS. I ALSO AND POLITICS, BUT I THOUGHT THAT THE INTERSECTION THAT SNYDER LOOP DID NOT MEET THE NO. THE NON SIGNAL SPECIFICATIONS AND THAT WAS ABOVE THE THRESHOLD. IN A RED ZONE FOR THAT THRESHOLD. YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY HAS THAT. IS THAT CHECKING THAT. IT'S NOT A LIVE ANYWHERE NEAR SIGNAL IZATION WARRANTS. NO, OKAY. BUT HOLD ON THAT THAT'S THAT'S BEING THAT AT 605. WE HAVE TO PLAY WITH THE STATE BEFORE WE CAN PUT A TRAFFIC LIGHT ON IT, AND THEY HAVE PARTICULAR. THE COLD WARRANTS. AND IF YOU DON'T YOU MUST JUMP THIS HIGH TO ME THE SIGNAL YEAH. CURRENTLY THAT ROAD DOES NOT HAVE ENOUGH TRAFFIC.

I'VE GOT A SIGNAL THERE. I WAS ALSO AT THE MEETING, MR STEIN SHOWED UP AT THE LINKS LAST YEAR. AND ANOTHER FAULT A COMPANY FOR SAYING THIS ANOTHER VERY IMPORTANT FACTOR THAN TO THEM THEIR PROFIT. I WONDER, GIVEN THE FACT THAT WE IN NEW ALBANY VERY ADAMANT ABOUT THE WAY THINGS LOOK AND THE QUALITY TO WHICH THINGS ARE BUILT AND DESIGNED. AND THE WAY INFLATION HAS RUN AMOK. WHETHER THIS PROJECT CAN STILL BE DESIGNED AND BUILT TO THE SPECIFICATIONS OF NEW ALBANY AND MEET THE PROFIT MARGINS THAT STEINER AND ASSOCIATES ONCE AND MAYBE A RHETORICAL QUESTION HERE TODAY. I WILL AGAIN. I KNOW THIS WAS ALREADY BROUGHT UP AT ALL.

REITERATE OUR CITY CENTER IS NOT FULLY BUILT OUT. NOT SURE WHY OUR EFFORTS ARE NOT SPENT BUILDING OUT THE CITY CENTER, WHICH, AS WE'VE HEARD FROM MISSION AND FROM CITY COUNCIL MULTIPLE TIMES IS SUPPOSED TO BE THE DOMINANT FOCAL POINT OF THE CITY. ONE OF THE BIG PROBLEMS WITH PREVIOUS DESIGN IS THAT IT WAS GOING TO DWARF THE CITY CENTER. THAT WAS DEEMED UNACCEPTABLE. I AGREE. AGAIN WE HAVE NINE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES GOING UP JUST EAST OF THIS. NOT A PEEP WAS HEARD FROM ANYBODY IN DESCENT BACK. YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE DISSENTERS TODAY WAS VERY MUCH IN FAVOR. I HAVE NO ISSUE WITH NINE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES GOING UP. RIGHT AROUND ME. I HAVE NO ISSUE WITH 36 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES GOING UP AROUND. I DO HAVE AN ISSUE WITH 188 TO MAYBE 195. I THINK IT'S THE MAX OUT UNITS GOING UP. ONE UNIT THAT STICKS IN MY HEAD WHEN I SEE 188 UNITS THAT WE'VE DONE SCHOOL IMPACT STUDIES IS THAT IN THE DOCUMENTS, THE AVERAGE STUDENT PER DWELLING IN NEW ALBANY IN AGGREGATE 0.7. THAT WOULD BE REALLY 135 STUDENTS. 28 TO 1 35 IS NOT A GAP. IT'S A CHASM. SO I STILL CAN'T RECONCILE HOW WE KEEP GETTING MARRIED 28. MAYBE 37 52 AT THE EXTREME 52 TO 1 35 IS A HUGE DIFFERENCE IN THE AGGREGATE STUDENT PER DWELLING IN NEW ALBANY. DO YOU WANT THE ANSWER TO THAT? UM. MOST OF NEW

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THAT IS NOT MY PROBLEM THAT IS DEVELOPERS. PROBLEM IS NOT THE CITY OF NEW WALLS PROBLEM THAT IS THE DEVELOPMENT PROBLEM. I WOULD AGREE WITH KIRK. THIS THIS LAND IS PERFECTLY ZONE AS IT IS.

AND LASTLY, GETTING BACK TO REALLY THE MAIN FACT THAT YOU'VE GOT SOMETHING LIKE 40% OF YOUR CITY LIVING NORTH OF 1 61, AND YOU'VE GOT ONE ROAD TO THE SCHOOL. THAT IS NOT A PLACE TO TINKER AROUND AND TAKE SOMETHING THAT IS AN EXPERIMENTAL FORM. IF YOU WANT TO GO FEED INTEL GO BUILD CLOSER TO INTERACT. IF YOU WANT TO GO EXPERIMENT WITH A HAMLET GO EXPERIMENT, NOT SOMEPLACE SO CLOSE TO THE ONE SCHOOL THAT ALL OF OUR CHILDREN GO TO THANK YOU. TRIED DYLAN UPTON AGAIN. OKAY, OKAY. TRY TO SIGNAL ME. I'M STILL WRITING NOTES. TRICIA SIGNORINI 7267. WELL, BERNIE LINKS DRIVE. I WON'T REITERATE. EVERYBODY HAS ALREADY SAID YOU GUYS HAVE HEARD FROM MASON LAST YEAR. YOU KNOW HOW I FEEL ABOUT SOME OF THE STUFF? I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION THAT WASN'T ANSWERED IN THE PLAN. HOW LARGE IS THE CIVIC GREEN AND OUR BUDGET? I DID HAVE A SEAT. I HAVE ONE QUESTION. I DIDN'T ASK. YOU KNOW? OKAY I JUST I WAS CURIOUS AS IT AN ACRE, TWO ACRES THAT WOULD BE IT'S NOT AN OCLOCK. OKAY OKAY. THAT WAS THE ONLY QUESTION THAT I HAD. I DON'T THINK I CAN DO ANYTHING ELSE THAT ANYBODY ELSE. TO LIKE. SO I THINK FOR POINT OF REFERENCE IF ANYONE'S BEEN EASTERN, BY THE NEW EXTENSION ZONE, THERE'S A NEW PARK IN THAT AREA WHERE IT'S KIND OF EXCITING. IT'S ROUGHLY THAT SIZE AND SCALE MHM. THAT WAS THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE. OKAY. THE NEXT ONE I HAVE IS NANCY ALEXANDER. HI MY NAME IS NANCY ALEXANDER.

I'M 7347 IN NEW ALBANY LINKS DRIVE. UM MY FAMILY AND I LIVE IN THE NEWER PARTS OF THE LENGTH SUBDIVISION AND WE JUST WANT OUR I JUST WANT TO EXPRESS OUR CONCERNS FOR POTENTIAL RE ZONING OF LAND. CLOSER TO THE MIC. PULL THEM I CAN HEAR YOU. UM SO I JUST WANT TO EXPRESS MY CONCERNS ABOUT THE REZONING OF THE HAMLETS. WE ARE AGAINST REZONING OF THE LAND, AND I WANT TO HEAR WHY WE MOVED TO NEW ALBANY NINE YEARS AGO FROM TEXAS AND, AFTER A THOROUGH ABOUT U ATION OF COLUMBUS SUBURBS, WE SELECTED NEW ALBANY PORTS SMALL TOWN FIELD NEXT TO LARGE TOWN IN MANY EASTERN AND WESTERN OVAL, UM, THAT PLACES FOR US TO GO THE DRAW OF NEW OPENING WAS IT'S LOW DENSITY AND IT'S AMAZING SCHOOL SYSTEMS SITUATED ON ONE CAMPUS. WITH THIS CHANGE OF THE REZONING . ALL OF THAT WILL CHANGE FROM THE LOOKS OF THE REZONING. NEW ALBANY IS TRYING TO ADD MORE APARTMENT COMPLEXES MORE TIGHTLY PACKED SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, MORE TOWN HOMES AND MORE CONGESTION TO AN ALREADY BUSY PART OF TOWN APARTMENT COMPLEXES AND POTENTIALLY MORE AFFORDABLE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES OR POTENTIALLY REALLY EXPENSIVE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. ARE GONNA DRAW FAMILIES WITH CHILDREN, REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE SCHOOL IMPACT STUDY SETS AND ONE OF MY QUESTIONS TO US, JUST BEING A LAYMAN AND ALL OF THIS, THIS PROPOSED PLAN IS IT A GUARANTEED LOANS ARE GOING TO BE 650,000 AND ABOVE, OR IS THIS JUST A PROJECTION? IF I MAY, UM,

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UM NOW WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS HERE. HERE WE HAVE THE CIVIC GREEN. WE HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT ITS SIZE, AND THEN THERE WILL BE LITTLE POCKETS THROUGHOUT. THOSE ARE DEEP POCKETS THROUGHOUT. IT'S HARD TO QUANTIFY UNTIL WE BRING A FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN THROUGH. BUT THIS THIS IN WHICH IS PRETTY SIGNIFICANT IN SIZE, AND THIS WILL BE USABLE. FURTHER DISCUSSIONS ON WHAT USABLE MEANS , BUT YOU KNOW THAT'S THAT'S TO BE DETERMINED MINIMUM PATH ACCESSIBLE. RIGHT NOW WILL BE ACCESSIBLE BY PATH FOR SURE, BECAUSE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT WHERE THE PATHS ARE IN THE FLOODPLAIN. AND THE ANSWER WAS YES. WHICH MEANS THAT YOU'RE CLOSE TO THE CREEK, WHICH GIVES YOU INTO THE CORE OF THE GREEN CORRIDOR IN MY EYES ARE BAD, SO I CAN'T READ HOW MUCH THE ACREAGE IS SAYING THERE. CAN YOU READ IT? NOT ME. 4.4. 4.4. AS OF AS A PARENT OF TWO YOUNG CHILDREN. WE WANT USABLE GREEN SPACE AND AN AREA THAT'S BEING DEVELOPED THIS DRAMATICALLY. AND IN ADDITION, I MEAN, NEW ALBANY WAS DEVELOPED WITH AN IDEA. ONE SCHOOL SYSTEM FOR ALL OF OUR STUDENTS. OUR CLASSROOMS ARE ALREADY FULL AND AN INFLUX OF STUDENTS AGAIN. TRAFFIC. UM OR THE SCHOOL IMPACT STUDY IS DONE. WHICH FLATS WERE BASED UPON MARKET AND MAIN. I MEAN, REALISTICALLY, ARE THOSE THE TYPE OF APARTMENTS THAT ARE REALLY GOING TO COME IN, UM, THAT'S TO BE SEEN. BUT ALL OF THIS IS GOING TO CAUSE A STRAIN ON OUR CLASS SIZE, OUR RESOURCES AND OUR SPACE. AND SO WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR OUR STUDENTS? IS IT GOING TO BE A SECOND HIGH SCHOOL THAT'S GOING TO BE BUILT? IS IT GOING TO BE ALL ON ONE CAMPUS? OUR STUDENTS GOING TO HAVE TO SIT IN PARTS WHILE A NEW BUILDING IS BEING BUILT AS THE INFLUX COMES IN. HOW WAS THE SCHOOL? GONNA HANDLE ALL OF THAT? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS HAVE THE ANSWER TO? WE GENERALLY ASK FOR THE DEVELOPERS TO TALK TO THE DISTRICT. BOTH ON THE IMPACT AND PREDICTIONS. UM AND I WENT. GO AHEAD AND REITERATE WHAT YOU'VE WHAT YOUR DISCUSSION WITH THE SCHOOLS WERE. YEAH. SO FROM OUR CONVERSATIONS AGAIN, THEY HAD NO

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AH! AND THE WEST SIDE OF SIX OF FIVE JUST SOUTH OF SNYDER LOOP. IT SERVES THAT BUSINESS HMM.

DOING AROUND ABOUT THEIR CREATED A DESIGN ISSUE. WHICH CVG? YOU MEAN, SAY AGAIN, G OR SOMETHING ELSE BELIEVE THAT'S THE BUSINESS NAME. SO THAT'S THE DESIGN ISSUE THAT STEVE IS REFERENCING. YEAH.

I DID NOT HEAR THE QUESTION. WE HAD ASKED THIS BEFORE, AND WE WERE TOLD NO BECAUSE OF OH, DOT BUT IF THERE IS A CHANCE COULD WE LEAVE ROOM FOR AROUND ABOUT AT 605 IN SUCH A COLLEGE THAT I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE WERE ASKING QUICK QUESTION FOR STAFF. DO WE HAVE THE RIGHT AWAY? SNYDER LOOP. MAYBE THE GATING FACTOR HERE BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH RIGHT AWAY WE'VE GOT AT SNYDER LOOP TO MAKE IT AROUND ABOUT CAPABLE. SO CURRENTLY I DON'T THINK WE HAVE THE RIGHT OF WAY FOR AROUND ABOUT THOSE TAKE UP A LARGER FOOTPRINT THAN YOUR TRADITIONAL INTERSECTION DOES.

HOWEVER THIS WE WILL CONTINUE TO MONITOR THESE INTERSECTIONS JUST LIKE WE DO EVERY INTERSECTION IN NEW ALBANY AND IF IT'S AT THE INTERSECTION SUCH AS SNYDER LOOP WHEN THIS PUBLIC ROAD IF IT SHOULD CUT ALL THE WAY THROUGH COLUMBUS AND HITTING OPENING ROAD EAST WE WILL CONTINUE TO RE EVALUATE IT AT THAT TIME TO SEE IF IT NEEDS TO BE SIGNALIZED OR OTHER OR ANOTHER TYPE OF IMPROVEMENT. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE COULD LEAVE ROOM FOR? REGARDLESS OF WHAT WE BUILD THEIR OR WE COULDN'T WORK THAT INTO ANY EQUATION. SO THE RIGHT OF WAY THAT WE ARE REQUESTING AND THE APPLICANT IS GIVING US TODAY IS FOR A SIGNALIZED INTERSECTION AND SO IT IS BASED ON THE TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY. UM THAT'S IT ACCOUNTS FOR TRAFFIC IN THE FUTURE. I BUILT OUT IN THIS IN THE SURROUNDING AREA. SO WE ARE PLANNING ON FUTURE INTERSECTION NEEDS FOR LANES AT SNYDER, LUPIN 605, BUT FOR, UM BUT NOT FOR AROUND ABOUT OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. NEXT ONE I HAVE IS JIM LIP NOSE MINUTE, STEVE, HOW MUCH MORE WOULD BE NEEDED FOR AROUND ABOUT MORE AROUND RIGHT AWAY. I. I THINK WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THE 40 FT THAT WERE THAT WERE COMMITTED TO RECEIVE WOULD NOT BE ENOUGH FOR AROUND ABOUT HOW MUCH MORE NEEDED SO THERE'S A LOT OF FACTORS THAT COME INTO PLAY ABOUT THE SPEED LIMIT OF THE ROAD ITSELF. AND THAT DETERMINES THE RADIUS OF THE ROUNDABOUTS. SO I THINK THAT WE NEED TO BE STUDIED BY AN ENGINEER TO

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INTERSTATE HIGHWAY AND WHAT DOESN'T CARRY WHAT 62 DOES. I BELIEVE IT'S THE SECOND BUSIEST ROAD IN THE VILLAGE. ASIDE FROM THE FREEWAY, THE SURFACE STREET IT'S THE SECOND BUSIEST 62. YES, CENTRAL COLLEGE HAS GOTTEN BUSIER THAN 605. I DON'T KNOW. HMM I DON'T BELIEVE SO. I BELIEVE 62 IS BY FAR BUSIEST ROAD. YEAH IN THE OLDEN DAYS, 60 TO 62 605 WERE THE NOW THAT 1 61 MOVED. GO AHEAD. AND WE'RE PERFECTLY FINE COMMITTING RIGHT AWAY TO ACCOMMODATE ROUNDABOUT.

WITH AS LONG AS WE CAN CREDIT FOR THE OPEN SPACE. OKAY? JUST YOU KNOW, THEY WILL CUT INTO OUR OPEN SPACE SOME SO WE JUST LIKE TO HAVE THAT RECOGNIZED AS WE'RE PROVIDING OUR OPEN SPACE THAT WOULD EAT INTO THAT CALCULATION , SO WE IF WE WERE GOING TO GIVE THAT ADDITIONAL RIGHT AWAY, WHICH WILL BE GREEN FOR A WHILE, WE REQUESTED TO PARDON ME THE RIGHT WAY WOULD BE GIVEN IF REQUESTED IN THE FUTURE DATE, CORRECT, BUT IN THE MEANTIME, IT WOULD COUNT AS OPEN SPACE IN PARKLAND. THE FIRST PART ABOUT IT. YEP. YES OKAY, IF WE WAIT, WHAT? UM FOR STAFF. ARE WE OKAY ON THE MATTER RIGHT AWAY? WE'VE GOT ON THE EAST SIDE SO FIVE AT SNYDER. PUT AROUND ABOUT THERE.

WITH THAT BOULEVARD AND EVERYTHING. ARE WE GOOD TO GO ALREADY? I BELIEVE SO THEY ONLY CONDITION OF APPROVAL. WHERE YOU RECOMMEND IS THAT ADDITIONAL RIGHT OF WAY FOR A FUTURE DROP RIGHT LANE AT ON SIX OF FIVE TO TURN RIGHT ONTO CENTRAL COLLEGE . THANK YOU. GOOD COVER WHAT YOU HAVE WHAT'S THAT IF I WERE YOU REACHING FOR YOUR MIKE NO. I JUST RIPPED OUT AS A PUBLIC CONDITION DIFFERENT CLASSES. ABOUT THE TIME I GOT IT. HOW MUCH I THINK IT'S EASIER TO ADD ITSELF. YOU CONDITIONING GRAFT, ANOTHER. GO AHEAD. OK, THANK YOU , JIM. LIP NO 701 19 FARM ROAD AND I'M ACTUALLY HERE TO TELL YOU THAT I THINK I'M I'M EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT. UM PEOPLE HAVE EVEN TALKED ABOUT EARLIER HOW ALL THE COMMERCIAL AND RETAIL AND RESTAURANT OR ON THE OTHER SIDE OF 1 61 ACTUALLY KIND OF EXCITED TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT I'M ABLE TO WALK TO. UM AND JUST GO DOWN AND HAVE SOME PLACE TO GO VISIT. SOME PLACE TO SHOP AT SOME PLACE TO GO EAT, EAT IT.

NONE OF THAT, BUT I THINK THERE'S ALSO NO SECRET THAT WE'VE GOT A HOUSING SHORTAGE.

AND I THINK IT'S A GOOD THING. SEEING THAT NEW ALBANY AND CITY COLUMBUS ARE DOING SUCH A GREAT JOB OF TRACKING JOBS. THAT WE ALSO PROVIDE PEOPLE SOMEPLACE WHERE PEOPLE LIVE. SO YOU'RE BRINGING 3000 JOBS AT $135,000 AVERAGE IS WHAT'S BEING REPORTED IN THE PAPERS. WOULD BE GREAT IF SOME OF THESE HOUSES KIND OF WOULD HIT THAT. THAT PRICE POINT THAT TARGET COUNT ME IN THE AND THE GROUP THAT SAYS YOUR RENTAL HOUSING IS NOT BAD. IT GIVES PEOPLE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET ESTABLISHED INTO AN AREA. GET INVESTED INTO THE AREA AND THEN GROW UP AND DO WHAT EVERYBODY HERE IS DOING. THAT'S RAISING YOUR KIDS IN THIS AREA, SO I'M IN FAVOR OF THE PROJECT. I LOOK FORWARD TO IT COMING TO FRUITION. I'M NOT GONNA GET BOGGED DOWN IN THE DETAILS. IT'S KIND OF YOUR JOB AS FAR AS YOU KNOW THE MATERIALS, BUT I'M I KNOW THE DESIGN GUIDELINES FOR THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY, I KNOW WOULD BE A FANTASTIC PROJECT AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT ONE I HAVE IS ALEX LOWRY. UM MY NAME IS ALEX LOWRY LEAVE AT 737 17 FARM ROAD. UM I'VE LIVED HERE FOR 12 YEARS. UM SO CAN WE GET A REVISED DRAWING SHOWING THE TURNING LEANING ON 605? BECAUSE IT DOESN'T SHOW THAT IN. MY QUESTION IS WHEN THAT GETS PUSHED OUT. WILL THEY INCREASE THE DENSITY OF THE PROJECT BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO YOU KNOW, YOU ADD AN EXTRA, YOU KNOW THE DISTANCE. UH, SECOND ONE, UM. IT WON'T INCREASE ANY OF THE DENSITIES BECAUSE THAT'S ALREADY FACTORED IN. OKAY, CORRECT. WHY JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY, WHY

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WILL THIS COMPETE IN A BAD WAY. THE VILLAGE CENTER. BECAUSE THAT WAS ONE OF THE FIRST THING THAT EVERYBODY THOUGHT OF WAS. THERE'S BUILDINGS THAT AREN'T BUILT YET HERE, AND THERE'S A LOT OF BUILDINGS THAT AREN'T BUILT YET. RIGHT OVER THERE BEHIND CVS. AND HOW COME WE'RE BUILDING MORE SOMEWHERE ELSE? AND THE RESPONSE GIVEN BY THE PEOPLE WHO OWNED THE LAND, WHO WOULD BE MOST BENEFITING FROM IT WAS WE DON'T SEE A PROBLEM NOW. THIS IS THAT'S HERE. SO I BELIEVE HEARSAY IS THE WORD. I'M LOOKING FOR ME SAYING WHAT I HEARD SOMEONE ELSE SAY, BUT THEY ALSO SAID IT IN A PUBLIC MEETING, SO MAYBE IT'S ON RECORD. UM FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH.

IT HAS BEEN ASKED AND MY IMPRESSION. THERE WE GO. THAT I CAN STATE CATEGORICALLY IMPRESSES IN ALBANY COMPANY DOESN'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS AND MY AND I DON'T DOUBT YOUR HEARSAY OR YOUR STATEMENT, AND THEY ARE PROBABLY TOTALLY THEIR STATEMENTS ARE PROBABLY GENUINE , WITH THEIR OPINION ON I CAN SAY IS FOR THE PAST NUMBER OF YEARS THE BUILDINGS OF STATE EMPTY IF THE LANDLORD DECIDES THAT THEY WANT TO STAY EMPTY, THEY'RE GONNA STAY EMPTY.

THERE'S THAT'S THAT'S SOMETHING DIFFERENT. LASTLY I'M GONNA SUBSTITUTE TEACHER AT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND AS MANY PEOPLE HAVE COMMENTED REGARDING, UM THE CLASS SIZE, THEY ARE VERY LARGE , AND THAT IS THAT IS JUST SUCH A CONCERN. AND I HAVE MANY FRIENDS WHO LIVE, UH DOWN. UM.

THOMPSON RUN AND ON CENTRAL COLLEGE WHO ARE SINGLE FAMILY PARENTS, UM. I THINK THE IDEA OF FLATS OR APARTMENTS THEY WILL BRING A LOT OF WILL BRING A LOT OF STUDENTS AND THAT JUST IF I GET TO PROVE THAT'S WHAT WILL HAPPEN THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT CAR TO HAVE HIS BOB SIGNEE.

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I'VE LIVED IN NEW ALBANY FOR 21 YEARS. AND I SPOKE HERE LAST YEAR AGAINST THIS, UH PROJECT. I MUST SAY I MUST. I MUST COMPLIMENT. UH EVERYONE IN HOW THEY DID LISTEN TO THE COMMUNITY AND THEY BROUGHT THE DENSITY DOWN, AND I THINK THAT'S HUGE. UM BUT THIS IS NOT A MINI EASTERN UM, BUT AND THOSE ARE MR STEINER'S WORDS FROM THE CHARETTE THAT I ATTENDED AND I SPOKE WITH HIM. LAST YEAR, AND HE SAID THAT'S WHAT HE WAS TRYING TO CREATE WAS THE MINI EASTERN IN THIS AREA, AND I JUST THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE DO NOT NEED. I THINK EVERYBODY IS CONCERNED ABOUT THE DENSITY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDINGS THAT IS STILL NOT CLEAR. AND AS DAVE WALLACE MENTIONED HE WAS CONFUSED ABOUT THE MULTI FAMILY ASPECT. UM AS WE ALL ARE FLATS, THEIR APARTMENTS. UM I THINK THERE HAS BEEN A COUPLE OF COMMENTS ABOUT THE QUALITY OF PEOPLE THAT WE SHOULDN'T BE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. I'M NOT CONCERNED ABOUT THE QUALITY OF THE PEOPLE. I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE DENSITY OF THIS AREA. AND WHAT THIS IS GOING TO BRING TO THAT INTERSECTION, AND I HAVE TO ASK THAT DO WE HAVE TO LOOK AT EVERY LITTLE BIT OF GREEN SPACE AND DEVELOP IT? THIS IS THE LAST AREA IN THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY, NORTH OF 1 61 THAT HAS ITS ARE ONE IT'S ONE ACRE. THERE ARE HOUSES SITTING ON LARGER LOTS.

THE IDEA IS TO BRING THE DENSITY IN SO THAT YOU CAN WALK TO WHEREVER IT IS. UM I JUST DON'T THINK THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE AREA IS SUPPORTING. AND I THINK WE'VE HEARD THIS OVER AND OVER. I THINK YOU CAN COME BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD. I THINK WE ALL KNOW THAT AREA WILL BE DEVELOPED IN THE FUTURE. BUT WHAT WILL IT BE AND AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS AUTHORITY OVER THAT AND RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND AS THE STANCE AND AS A AS IT'S BEEN PROPOSED RIGHT NOW, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO SAY NO TO THIS ONLY PROPOSAL.

THANK YOU. IF I MADE THE R ONE IS THE LEAST PROTECTIVE OF THAT GREEN CORRIDOR. ASIDE FROM THE FLOODPLAIN, WHICH WE ACTUALLY HAVE LAWS ABOUT AND OUR ONE DEVELOPMENT COULD STRIP ALL THE REST OF THAT. IN FACT, THE GREEN CORRIDOR ITSELF COULD TURN INTO A LAWN UNDER OUR ONE ZONING.

THERE IS NO PROTECTION THERE, AND I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT I LIVE ON SUGAR RUN SUGAR RUN IS IN MY BACKYARD AND I'M VERY PROTECTIVE OF THAT RUN, AND IT IS A RUN. IT'S NOT A CREE. YOU CAN DO YOUR RESEARCH ON WHAT THAT IS. BUT AND DO WE NEED TO GIVE ACCESS TO EVERY NATURAL FEATURE IN THE CITY? DO YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO GET DOWN TO THE CREEK? NOT NECESSARILY. I MEAN, IT'S ONE THING TO CREATE HALF GREEN SPACE. BUT YOU KNOW, DO YOU HAVE TO HAVE HUMAN IMPACT ON EVERY PART OF THAT AREA? I THINK NOT. THE NEXT ONE I HAVE IS DAVID GERHARDT. YES THAT DAVID GERHARD 69 08. CENTRAL COLLEGE. I'M HALF MILE MY WIFE AND I DOWN CENTRAL COLLEGE EAST OF THE SITE. OKAY WE'VE BEEN IN NEW ALBANY ABOUT 22 YEARS NOW. BRING CLOTHES JUST KEEP IT CLOSE. OKAY LET'S GO. SEE WE'VE BEEN IN, UH, NEW ALBANY ABOUT 22 YEARS NOW. OKAY AND WE LOVE OUR NEIGHBORS.

UH SINCE IT WAS BUILT WITH LINKS, AND, UH, THEY'VE BUILT WHAT WERE YOU CROSSING? OKAY WE HAVE A COUPLE OF HORSES THEY LOVE THE PEOPLE WENT NORTH CROSSING BECAUSE THEY EAT OTHER APPLES. CARROTS EVERY NIGHT JUST FROM HOUSE TO HOUSE. BUT, UM. CAN WE GET A LARGER PRINT OF THIS DEVELOPMENT. OKAY ON THE SCREEN PUTTING IT HERE, OKAY? YEAH, THE BLACK WHITE. FOOTPRINT

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AND IN THE AFTERNOON, IT'S ADDING 54. AND WELL BEING THE ROAD EAST. IT'S HEADING ROUGHLY 40 CARS IN THE MORNING AND THE AFTERNOON. IT'S A LITTLE IMPORTANT LITTLE LESS WHEN YOU SAY IN THE MORNING. DO YOU HAVE OUR RANGE THAT YOU CAN DEFINE THAT BY 7 30 TO 8 30, THEN THE AFTERNOONS 5 TO 6. SO YOU'RE TALKING TOO BUSY HOUR. THE TYPICAL RUSH HOUR. I'M REALLY TALKING EAST WEST TRAFFIC COMING FROM ST JOHN'S TOWN. OKAY THAT HAS TO CUT THROUGH THERE WHEN THEY'RE YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY'S STOPPED ON THE FREEWAY, AND THEN THE PEOPLE COMING DOWN TEMPER COLLEGE FROM MINK AND THAT AREA THAT ARE USING IT AS A CUT THROUGH. I CAN TELL YOU THAT IN A MATTER OF 10 OR 15 MINUTES, I CAN COUNT 40 CARS. IN THE EVENING. I HAVE TO COUNT THEM FAST BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING FAST. YEAH ALL THE ALL THAT LENDS TO IS WHAT I'VE MENTIONED BEFORE, IN TERMS OF PERCENTAGE TRAFFIC COMPARED TO EXISTING MY POINT IS THAT IMPACT STUDIES YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT GOING TO HELP YOU HERE. BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW THE 1 61 CORRIDOR AND THE PROBLEMS WE HAVE, AND I THINK WE ALL KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON WITH INTEL. AND THE ONLY OTHER POINT I WANT TO MAKE IS THIS IS LOWERING OUR STANDARDS OF ONE OF THE GREATEST SEPARATES IN THE UNITED STATES.

OKAY AND WHERE IS IT GOING TO STOP? IF YOU APPROVE THIS ALREADY HEARD TELL THAT WE MAY HAVE THE SAME THING GOING UP AT CENTRAL COLLEGE AND ROUTE 62. YOU KNOW ONCE YOUR GRANDFATHER LISTEN, IT'S JUST GONNA HAPPEN ACTUALLY THE OTHER WAY AROUND. THE ORIGINAL PLANS THAT WERE 20 ODD. ALMOST 30 YEARS OLD, CALLED FOR THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT ROUGHLY HERE AND ROUGHLY AT FIVE POINTS. THE COUNSELORS UPDATED THAT AND IT'S ONLY HERE. THE ONE AT FIVE POINTS WAS REMOVED FROM

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SAY THAT AGAIN. YOU'RE GOING TO SAY THIS IS NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN AGAIN. YOU'RE GOING TO PROVE THIS ONE TIME GET THIS CONVINCED HOUSING AND ALL THESE ROOFTOPS AND ONE LITTLE AREA WITH A SMALL PART, AND IT'S ONLY A ONE TIME DEAL. THAT WAS ONE OF MY FIRST QUESTIONS. THE FIRST TIME THIS CAME UP WAS HOW DO WE KNOW THIS IS THE PLACE FOR IT AND HOW YOU KNOW IT'S RIGHT. AND HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT? NO OTHER PLACE IS RIGHT. AND THAT WAS PART OF THE DISCUSSION FOR THIS.

YEAH, AND THE ASSURANCES FROM STAFF AND THE GUIDANCE THAT WE GOT FROM COUNCIL WAS THAT THIS IS THE ONLY ONE. IF THERE'S GOING TO BE ONE, IT WILL BE HERE BECAUSE THERE'S NO OTHER PLACE IN OUR PLANNING DOCUMENTS. THAT HAS IT. YEAH THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ESPECIALLY. IT'S A FACTUAL FACT . FACT YOUR QUESTION. YES, THANK YOU. QUESTION SO THE TRAFFICS THAT YOU MENTIONED WAS DONE ON SEPTEMBER 27TH WHITE YEAR. 2022. IN OTHER WORDS, ABOUT HOW MANY SIX WEEKS AGO, OKAY. AND THAT WAS ALSO, UH IT WOULD BE NICE IF IT WAS NOT AFTER THE DAY AFTER A THREE DAY WEEKEND, WHEN THE SCHOOL WAS CLOSED LOVE FOR ANOTHER TRAFFIC STUDY TO BE DONE WHEN IT'S NOT A THREE DAY WEEKEND. YOU'RE AS FOR ANYONE WHO HAS KIDS, UH, THAT MOST PEOPLE WERE GONE THAT DAY, AND WE'RE COMING BACK THAT FOLLOWING TUESDAY. JUST THE THOUGHT. THANK YOU. THE NEXT SPEAKER CARD I HAVE IS KELLY SIMPSON. I KNEW THAT BECAUSE I WANT TO BE AFTER DAVE AND I'M THE ONE THAT FEEDS THE HORSES, APPLES AND SUGAR AND WHATEVER. CARROTS NO SUGAR. UM KELLY SIMPSON LIVE IN WENTWORTH CROSSING 68 50 WARDA LOOP. 25 YEARS IN THE COMMUNITY. I THINK I GOT THE RECORD HERE TODAY. AND YEAH, YOU WIN. 10 YEARS AND WENTWORTH CROSSING, SO I HAVE SEEN AND WENTWORTH CROSSING OVER TIME HERE. WHAT'S HAPPENED THROUGH THE YEARS? MR SCHELL? I CALLED YOU SEVERAL YEARS AGO ABOUT THE TRAFFIC BECAUSE I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT IT. IF YOU REMEMBER I WAS LIKE THIS IS BECOMING AN INTERSTATE HIGHWAY. IT'S THE PARALLEL HIGHWAY TO 1 61 EVERY MORNING AND EVERY EVENING EVERYONE'S TAKING CENTRAL COLLEGE. AS THEIR BACKUP HIGHWAY BECAUSE 1 61 WAS TOO JAMMED UP. AND I CALLED ABOUT THAT FOR FIVE YEARS AGO, AND YOU ASSURED ME THAT THE TRAFFIC STUDY SAID IT WAS OKAY. AND THINGS WERE FINE. SO I'M COMING TONIGHT BECAUSE I LIVE ON THAT ROAD. WE WALK ON THAT ROAD. TONY AND I WALKED TOGETHER. SOMETIMES WE CAN'T GET ACROSS CENTRAL COLLEGE. IT IS SO BUSY. SO I DON'T HAVE A LOT OF PREPARED REMARKS, AND I DO WANT TO SAY TO MY NEIGHBORS HERE. YOU GUYS DID A GREAT JOB. BUT WHAT I WANT TO SAY IS WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT 200 RESIDENCES, IF THAT'S THE NUMBER LET'S SAY EVERYBODY HAS 1.5 HOURS OR 202 CARS. THAT'S 400 CARS. ADDING 400 CARS IN THAT ERA THAT'S ALREADY CRAZY BUSY.

DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY ACCIDENTS HAVE BENEFIT CORNER? HAS CHECKED THE AMOUNT OF ACCIDENTS THAT CENTRAL COLLEGE AND SO FIVE I HAVE SEEN MANY THERE ALREADY. SO I DISAGREE. THE TRAFFIC STUDY.

I'M SORRY. I'VE LOOKED AT 10 YEARS AND I'VE SEEN INCREASINGLY BECOME BAD AND I'M REALLY CONCERNED I TWO MAIN CONCERNS ARE TRAFFIC. AND CRIME. THAT IS MY TWO MAIN CONCERNS. AND SO I'M ASKING. I'M TRYING TO PUT ALL THIS TRAFFIC STUDY DISCOVERS, NOT EVEN IN WHAT'S GOING ON THERE. HOW MANY CARS ARE GOING TO END? HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GO DOWN CENTRAL COLLEGE EVERY NIGHT TO GO HOME TO JOHN ELSEWHERE. IT IS SO BUSY. TRUST ME. I LIVED THERE. I WALKED THERE. I LIVE THERE ALL THE TIME . AND SO I DISAGREE. I THINK THIS IS A MAJOR PROBLEM THAT WAS REALLY SHOULD ADHERE TO AND LISTEN TO THE TRAFFIC COMPLAINT. IT'S REALLY NOT TO BE MINIMIZED COMPONENT. I WILL SAY TO THESE GENTLEMEN SHIRT INTEL IS NEW, BUT ALSO WHAT IS NEW IS ALL THOSE APARTMENTS RIGHT DOWN THE STREET AND CENTRAL COLLEGE IN COLUMBUS? WE DID NOT HAVE THOSE HERE BEFORE HOW MUCH TRAFFIC HAS BEEN GENERATED FROM THAT? I CAN'T TELL YOU THE CRIME STATISTICS, BUT I CAN TELL YOU IN A NEIGHBORHOOD OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. YOU HAVE WITNESSED A LOT OF CRYING PEOPLE COMING AND GARAGES. WE'VE HAD TWO COLLEAGUES, OTHER PUT OUT ON OUR

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STOP BUT THOSE ARE MY POINTS. I MEAN, I REALLY BELIEVE THAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. LET'S HAVE HIS MORITA, MARIA NADER. I APOLOGIZE. I DON'T HAVE QUESTIONS. I JUST DROPPED OUT. I GOT OFF THE AIRPLANE AND CAME STRAIGHT HERE. UM BUT I THINK I HAVE A UNIQUE PERSPECTIVE ON THIS BECAUSE I ACTUALLY LIVE ON 605. I LIVE AT 6 69 41. NEW ALBANY CONDIT ROAD WAS 65. MY HOUSE WHERE THAT SQUARE IS RIGHT WITH CENTRAL COLLEGE AND 605 MEET THAT SQUARE RIGHT THERE. MY HOUSE SITS RIGHT RIGHT NEXT TO IT. AND THE REASON WHY IT'S AWAY FROM THE STREET IS BECAUSE HOME STAY THERE, ONE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET. HAVE BEEN HIT AND HAD TO BE TORN DOWN BECAUSE OF THE TRAFFIC THAT WERE THERE. AND WHEN KELLY MENTIONED THE ACCIDENT, AND WHEN WE HEAR, AND I APOLOGIZE, MR SANDERSON BED THE TRAFFIC FLOW THAT COMES ON THERE IS SO MUCH HIGHER THAN FOUR CARS IN THE MORNING OR AT NIGHT. WHEN I MOVED HERE, I BECAME A PILE AND I'VE LOOKED TO HANNAH FOR 20 YEARS AND I'VE SINCE BEEN NEW ALBANY FOR SEP. I WAS A TEACHER IN KAHANA CITY SCHOOLS. I'VE SEEN WHAT THAT HAS DONE WHEN WE BROUGHT IN SO MANY NEW LOCATIONS, NEWS LIKE APARTMENTS, HOMES LANDLOCKED IT DO ALBANESE VERY VAGUE. AND I KNOW THESE FAMILIES ARE ALL SAYING THAT EDUCATION IS VERY HIGH PRIORITY FOR THEIR KIDS. AND IT IS AND YOU KEEP SAYING THAT WE'RE ONLY GOING TO GET LIKE MAYBE 35 TO 52 KIDS. THAT'S THAT'S THE PART THAT CAN'T THAT CAN'T BE. I KNOW WHAT CLASSROOM SIZES ARE VERY DENSE AND WHEN YOU WANT TO GIVE YOUR CHILDREN EDUCATION, YOU CAN'T HAVE GREATER NUMBERS. IT'S JUST IT DOESN'T WORK. MY BROTHER WAS A TEACHER. MY FATHER WAS A PROFESSOR. WE SEE HOW THAT WORKS. I CAME TO THIS COUNTRY. I HAD TO LEARN ENGLISH AND I WORK WITH DSL STUDENTS AND I SEE THE EQUITY THAT'S COMING OR THE NEW WORLD TODAY IS EQUITY AND DIVERSITY. AND WHAT COMES IN. I LIVE. NOT TOO FAR. ELSIE. AND I KNOW AND I'M NOT GOING TO SAY THAT RENTALS ARE BAD PEOPLE. I'M A RENTER. I RENT THAT PROPERTY.

AND THE SAD THING IS IT'S NOT THE PEOPLE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO COME HERE AFTER THEY BUILD THESE HOMES THAT REALLY UNDERPRICED BECAUSE I KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. AT INTEL 2400 SQUARE FOOT HOMES ARE GOING TO GO FOR MORE THAN $1.5 MILLION. SO YOU CAN'T TELL ME THAT $625,000 HOME . WE'RE GOING TO COME IN HERE AND THAT THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO COME HERE GOING TO BE OKAY. GREAT CITIZENS AGREE THERE WILL BE GOOD CITIZENS, BUT THAT ATTRACTS DANGER THAT ATTRACTS THE CRIME. EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENS DOWN TO THE L C. I HEAR THE POLICE CARDS RUN DOWN MY ROAD. EVERY NIGHT. TWO O'CLOCK, THREE O'CLOCK, FOUR O'CLOCK, FIVE O'CLOCK. MY CAR HAS BEEN BROKEN INTO THREE TIMES. MY DOG. WAS HIT ON 605. AND I LOST HIM. AND THE TRAFFIC THAT GOES THERE.

I HAVE TO GO DOWN THAT WAY. ALL THE TIME BECAUSE I HAVE TO GO TO THE JAMES AND I GO TO THE HOSPITAL OR DOWN TO THE CLINIC AND KAHANA. SO I LOOK AT THAT AND I SEE THE TRAFFIC. AND THERE'S THREE TIMES THE BUSSES. AND SO IF YOU'RE GONNA BUILD ARMS HOMES ARE NOT ON THIS SIDE OF THE STREET. HOW MANY BUS STOPS A LITTLE GONNA BE? HOW MANY TIMES AT THE BUS STOP.

DURING THE DAY TO DROP OFF CHILDREN. AND PICK UP CHILDREN. IT'S GOING TO BE A CONSTANT.

JUST A MESS OF TRAFFIC. IS THAT I HAVE TO WAIT CONSTANTLY. ONE OF THE SCHOOL BUSSES ARE COMING

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UNFORTUNATELY, ENGAGE HANA. IT WAS ALWAYS THE WEST SIDE, THEY SAID, WAS A BAD SIDE WHERE ALL THE DRUGS AND THINGS WERE. THAT WAS PROBABLY THE SAFEST SCORE. WHEN I WENT TO HIGH POINT AND TOP. THERE WERE ALL THE PEOPLE WITH BETTER INCOMES. AND HAD ALL THESE THINGS. THAT'S WHERE THE DRUGS WERE, AND IN TODAY'S SOCIETY WITH THE FENTANYL THAT'S GOING ON AND WE'RE BRINGING CRIME IN HERE. OUR CHILDREN ARE IN DANGER. LUCKILY, MY SON'S 26. HE'S MADE IT. BUT KIDS TODAY THEY DON'T HAVE THE SAME THINGS GOING ON. WE'RE INVITING THINGS IN HERE. AND YES, IT COULD BE A GREAT THING, BUT THE DENSITY AND THE POPULATION THAT'S GOING TO BE PUT IN HERE. IT'S GOING TO INCREASE OUR SCHOOLS. AND IF THERE'S THOSE FLATS IF YOU COULD SAY THAT, THEY'RE $2500. I HAVE TO. I HAVE TO CORRECT YOU. ONE OF THE HOUSES THAT PROCESS STREET WHERE THEY WERE PROPOSING TO DO THE BREWERY OR THE LITTLE. THE LITTLE WHATEVER IT WAS OVER THERE WITH THE LIONS CLUB IS HOUSE JUST DOWN THE STREET ACROSS FROM THE RELIGIOUS COVERED BUILDING IS $2400 AND THAT'S A HOME WITH YARD. THESE AREN'T GONNA HAVE YARDS. THE FLATS ARE GOING TO HAVE PLACES THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE RECREATIONAL AREAS. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO TAKE YOUR KID OUT TO A PARK. ALL THE TIME. I JUST I SEE THIS IN I CAN I UNDERSTAND WHY THEY WANT TO DEVELOP THINGS. DO YOU WANT TO GROW? BUT YOU'RE GOING TO CHANGE WHAT NEW ALBANY IS. WHEN I MOVED FROM KAHANE TO HEAR IT WAS THRILLING. THERE WAS A LOT OF OPEN SPACE. WE WANT TO DO THINGS, AND NOW IT'S SLOWLY CONDENSING AND CONDENSING. WE'RE GOING TO LOSE OUR TREES. WE'RE GOING TO LOSE EVERYTHING. ALL THE FARMLAND. IT'S PRETTY MUCH GONE. I APOLOGIZE THAT I DIDN'T MAKE A WHOLE LOT OF SENSE. BUT WHEN I SEE THIS, AND I HAD TO COME HERE TONIGHT. GOT OFF MY PLANE AND MY BROTHER PASSED AWAY THIS WEEKEND. AND I WENT TO HIS FUNERAL, AND I WHEN I WAS DRIVING HERE. I GOT OFF THE PLANE AT 6 15 AND I DROPPED STRAIGHT HERE. BECAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT. THE THIS IS ADDRESSED. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. THOSE ARE ALL THE SPEAKER CARDS. I HAVE. SURE ESPECIALLY, HMM. OCCURRED TO COLLEGE AND, UH YEAH. UH AGAIN. THE REQUEST IS THAT THIS ZONING REQUEST BE DENIED STAFF AS AS AN R ONE STANDS TODAY. IF YOU WOULD HAVE MORE THAN ONE HOUSE PER ACRE, THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE AN ECONOMIC OFFSET PAYMENT MADE FROM A DEVELOPER. TO THE CITY IS THAT CORRECT? AND THERE'S A SPECIFIC FACTOR. SO THERE'S THE STRATEGIC PLAN. AND THEN THERE'S THE ZONING CODE. SO THE STRATEGIC PLAN WHEN WE EVALUATE REZONING, THAT'S WHEN WE EVALUATE THE DENSITIES THAT PROPOSED DENSITY IS JUST LIKE WE'RE DOING TONIGHT SINCE THAT ARE ONE ZONING EXISTS TODAY. IT IS, UM IT IS VESTED RIGHTS BY THE PROPERTY OWNER. SO IT WOULD BE BASED ON THE CURRENT ZONING, WHICH ALLOWS FOR ONE UNIT PER 40,000 SQUARE FEET SO IT WOULD BE OVER. ONE UNIT PER ACRE BASED ON THE ZONING CODE, BUT OKAY,

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THERE'S SOME TYPICAL PATTERN. THAT IS FOLLOWED EVERY DAY. FOR WORKERS GOING NORTH AND SOUTH AND 605. I FEEL THAT THE VOLUMES THAT THEY COUNTED OR REFLECTIVE OF CURRENT CONDITIONS. UM. DO YOU WANT ME TO ANSWER ABOUT THE SCHOOL TRAFFIC? OKAY DURING THE MORNING PEAK, ONE SCHOOL IS ALSO IN SESSION THE SAME OR IS STARTING AT THE SAME TIME AS THE MORNING PEAK AGAIN THAT RELATES TO IT'S A LESSER IMPACT COMPARED TO THE PMP. FOR THE SCHOOL PMP. UH THE CONSULTANT THAT DID, THE STUDY DID RECORD DATA. DURING THE THINK IT'S 2 30 TO 3 30 TIME FRAME WHEN THE SCHOOL PEAK OCCURS. AND THE ROADWAY VOLUMES WERE ABOUT 40% LESS THAN DURING THE COMMUTER PMP. AS A RESULT, UM, GIVEN THAT SIGNIFICANT. VALUE BEING MUCH LESS THAN THE COMMUTER PM PEAK. WE WOULD NOT REQUEST THE CONSULTANT EVALUATE THE SCHOOL PMP BECAUSE THEY CAN , THE RESULTS WOULD SHOW NOTHING DIFFERENT. THEN WHAT THEY ALREADY SHOW IF I COULD IF I COULD. WELL, SO, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THE COMMUTER TRAFFIC GROUNDS OUT THE SCHOOL TRAFFIC CORRECT THE BUSIEST OUR SCHOOL TRAFFIC. NOT THERE, BUT THEY DID. YOU DON'T SEE IT AT THE BUSIEST HOUR. FOR THE ROAD IN GENERAL, YES, AND TO ADD TO THAT THE DEVELOPMENT ALSO HAS LESS TRAFFIC DURING THE SCHOOL PMP COMPARED TO THE COMPUTER, PMP. SO ANOTHER WAY OF SAYING IT IS YOU USED TO USE THE HIGHEST NUMBERS. THAT THE TRAFFIC STUDY GENERATED IN THE AFTERNOON? YES. RESTART TIMES. MIKE RIGHT TO THE MICRO. DON'T TALK, PLEASE. WE NEED YOU ON THE PUBLIC RECORD. AND GUNS AND HAUSER. G. U N Z N H I E U S. C R 50 51 NOTTING HILL I LIVE IN WINDSOR. THERE ARE THREE START TIMES FOR THE SCHOOL. WAS THE TRAFFIC STUDY ENCOMPASSING ALL THREE START AND END TIMES BECAUSE IF IT'S 7 30, THAT'S HIGH SCHOOL. AND TRAFFIC IS NOT THAT BAD AT THAT POINT, BECAUSE 11TH AND 12TH GRADERS CAN DRIVE. I JUST WANTED TO ADD WEIGHT. LET THE MAN ANSWER THE QUESTION. UM WITH WITH THE

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SPECIFICALLY TO THE 605 CENTRAL COLLEGE INTERSECTION. AND THEIR RESULTS STILL SHOW THE SAME CONCLUSIONS. WITH REGARD TO HAVING THREE SEPARATE STAR KINDS AND THE TRAFFIC AT 605 AND CENTRAL COLLEGE. ONCE WE GET BACK TO START TIMES, WHICH I ASSUME WE WILL BECAUSE IT SO TAXING ON THE STAFF AND THE BUS DRIVERS AS IT IS TO DO THREE WE ARE NOW ADDING THAT 33% MORE AT ONE TIME WERE, YOU KNOW, CONDENSING 322. THIS IS ONLY GOING TO GET WORSE. INCREASING THE TRAFFIC IS NOT SERVING THE NEW AVENUE RESIDENTS. THANK YOU. OKAY? OTHER QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS FROM COMMISSION MEMBERS. I'D LIKE TO THANK THE STAFF FOR GETTING US SCHOOL NUMBERS OUT AHEAD. MATT MCFADDEN , 773 MILLION PLACES. JUST ONE THING ABOUT THE START TIMES IS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TRAFFIC ON 65, WHICH GOES TO THE INTERMEDIATE PRIMARY SCHOOLS. MY DAUGHTER GOES TO THE TO THE PRIMARY SCHOOL. AND IF THE TRAFFIC'S DONE BETWEEN 7 38 30 AND THEN 2 30 TO 3 31 PRIMARY SCHOOL START TIMES START, TIME IS NINE. AND THE END TIME IS LIKE 3 50. SO THE BUSY TIMES ON THAT ROAD. FOR THE SCHOOL. SITTING ON 605 IS NOT 7 30 IN THE MORNING. WE'RE EIGHT IN THE MORNING. IT'S AT NINE IN THE MORNING AND FOUR IN THE AFTERNOON, WHICH WERE NOT PART OF THIS STUDY DONE ON SEPTEMBER 27TH. WERE THEY DID WE? WE DID, THE STUDY OBSERVED THROUGH THE WHOLE DAY. YES THE STUDY COLLECTED DATA THE WHOLE DAY.

AND SO THE HOURS THAT WERE PRESENTED AS THE BUSIEST HOURS. WE'RE NOT THE ONLY HOURS OBSERVED THEY WERE MERELY THE BUSIEST HOURS. CORRECT. SO THEY LOOKED. THEY'RE JUST COMMUTER TRAFFIC DWARFS THE BUS TRAFFIC. I'D LIKE TO FIND IT DOESN'T HAVE TO FIND IT IN HERE, BUT THEY ACTUALLY SAID THE HOURS WERE FROM 7 TO 9 IN THE MORNING, AND I THINK IT WAS 2 TO 5 IN THE AFTERNOON. IT DIDN'T HEAR IT STATES THAT IT WASN'T AT ALL DAY JUST TO CLARIFY I WOULD HAVE TO RE LOOK AT THAT. BUT I'M NOT GONNA DOUBT WHAT YOU SAID. ALL I KNOW IS WHAT THIS STUDY SHOWED WAS, THEY INDICATED DURING THE AFTERNOON SCHOOL PEAK. VOLUMES AND SIX OR FIVE WERE ABOUT 40% LESS THAN DURING THE PM COMMUTER PEAK. I JUST WOULD LIKE TO SEE A SHOW OF HANDS RIGHT NOW. HOW DOES 605 AFFECTED PEOPLE? JUST THIS SMALL GROUP? UM OKAY. I NEVER TELL ME THE TRAFFIC IS THE LESSON. I'M TELLING YOU, I DRIVE THAT ROAD EVERY DAY, AND I DON'T HAVE A STUDENT. IT IS CONGESTED.

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I DON'T KNOW IF I GOT IT SAID THANK YOU STAFF FOR THE SCHOOL MEMBERS BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN ASKING FOR THOSE FOR PROBABLY YEARS TO GET THERE. FIGHTER GRANT NUMBERS. UM SO. OTHER QUESTIONS CAN ANSWER SOME COMMISSION MEMBERS TO THEM. SOMETHING, RIGHT? YEAH, IT'S TIME. SO FOR THE AFRICA UM HAVE A QUESTION AHEAD. FIRST AROUND ROADWAYS. I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY AND MAKE SURE I HEARD IT RIGHT ON CENTRAL COLLEGE. WHEN WE WIDEN ITS AT 55 FT WAS THAT FROM CENTER LINE OF ROAD TO CURB OR WAS THAT THE WHOLE WIDTH OF THE ROAD? RIGHT COLLEGE ENGLANDER. I THOUGHT SENATOR COLLEGE HAD ENOUGH ROOM AND JUST GONNA STRIPE IT. YES SO CENTRAL COLLEGE IS JUST A RE STRIPING. 605 WILL REQUIRE WIDENING WHERE IT'S NOT ALREADY THREE LANES.

PORTIONS OF IT ARE THREE LANES AND WHERE IT'S TWO LANES WILL BE WIDENED TO THREE JUST TO ACCOMMODATE THOSE LEFT RAMBLINGS. SO WHAT WILL BE THE WEATHER OF THE NEW ROAD? SO IT WOULD FOLLOW. OUR TYPICAL STREET SECTIONS ARE TYPICAL TRAVEL LANES OR BETWEEN 11 AND 12. FT WITH TURN LANES, CENTRAL TURN LINES BETWEEN 10 AND 11 FT. THOSE STREETS SECTIONS WOULD COME BACK TO THE PLANE AND COMMISSION AS PART OF A FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEERING OUR TRAFFIC CREW THAT'S HERE TONIGHT. WHAT EVALUATE TO ENSURE THAT IT'S UM , MEETING THEIR STREET STANDARDS FOR SECTIONS OF ROADWAY. BUT WHAT WAS THAT APPROXIMATE WITH THE OF THE ROAD OF THE PAVEMENT ITSELF FROM CURB TO CURB FROM CURB TO CURB I DON'T BELIEVE IT WILL BE CURBED HERE TO KEEP ITS NATURAL ARABS RURAL AESTHETICS SO, BUT TYPICALLY IT DEPENDS ON THE SHOULDER AND THE SPEED LIMIT. BUT I WOULD SAY IT'S GOING TO BE AT LEAST PROBABLY 36 FT OF PAVEMENTS, AND THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE SHOULDERS. OKAY THAT'S WHY, YOU KNOW, THANK YOU WIDER WHETHER RETURN LINE ON CENTRAL COLLEGES OKAY. I JUST WANT TO COLLECT MY THANKS BECAUSE STEVE SEAGAL. 71 90 ASSUMPTION, DR A LOT TONIGHT. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW THE RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT. BUT. THE COMMERCIAL COMPONENT IS A BIG PART OF THIS DEVELOPMENT, AND IT JUST APPEARS TO BE VERY UNKNOWN. AS TO WHAT WE'RE GETTING INTO FROM A COMMERCIAL STANDPOINT. IN NEW ALBANY VILLAGE CENTER MARKET STREET DISTRICT. IT'S TAKEN 30 YEARS. TO GET MARKET STREET TO THE POINT WHERE IT IS TODAY. AND I THINK WE CAN ALL ARGUE THAT IT'S NOT 100% SUCCESS. I MEAN, THERE'S BEEN STRUGGLES. SO WHAT'S THE RUSH? TO APPROVE. I, HAMLET. WITH THE MAJOR COMMERCIAL COMPETING DISTRICT. TO WHAT WE'VE WORKED FOR 30 YEARS AND TRYING TO MAKE MARKETS AND MAIN A GREAT INTERSECTION FOR OUR COMMUNITY. WHO WANTS TO GO TO FOOD TRUCKS AT CENTRAL COLLEGE AND 605. AND COMPETE BUSINESS FROM OUR OWN BUSINESSES THAT RESIDENTS THAT LIVE HERE IN NEW ALBANY THAT OPERATE BUSINESSES. I MEAN, WHAT'S THE RUSH TO APPROVE? THIS HAMLET. A YEAR AGO WHEN I CAME HERE AND SPOKE THERE WAS AN ACCIDENT AND I WAS COMING TO THIS MEETING FOR CITY COUNCIL AND THERE WAS A MAJOR ACCIDENT AT 605. IT JUST FEELS TO ME LIKE THERE'S SO MANY UNKNOWNS. AND HERE WE ARE WITH THE GREAT DEVELOPER, ARGUABLY THE BEST DEVELOPER IN THE COUNTRY THAT DOES WHAT THEY DO. THEY'RE VERY SOPHISTICATED THEIR PARTNERS WITH THE NEW ALBANY COMPANY. IT JUST DOESN'T FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO RUSH THROUGH THIS. CAN'T WE TAKE A PAUSE? EVALUATE WHAT REALLY MAKES SENSE FOR THE COMMUNITY. WE JUST DON'T KNOW A LOT ABOUT WHAT THIS IS GOING TO BE. THANKS. ERIN. EARLIER YOU TALKED ABOUT A POTENTIAL REDUCTION IN MY NOTES.

UH HOMES IN AREA FIVE, A REDUCTION IN THE NUMBER OF TOWN HOMES. WE CAN REDUCE IT TO. CAN

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YEAH. THANK YOU. OTHER QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION. OKAY? SO FIRST THE HOUSEKEEPING. THEY MIGHT AGENDA. I MOVE THAT WE RECOMMEND OR THAT WE INTEGRATE, INCORPORATE THE STAFF REPORTS AND RELATED DOCUMENTS, INCLUDING THE EMAIL AND THE LETTERS THAT WE WERE GIVEN, UM SUCH AS THE POLICE LETTER INTO THE RECORD. SECOND. AND DISCUSSION ON THE DOCUMENTS MOTION. CAN I HEAR THE ROLE, PLEASE, MR KIRBY? YES MR LAWLESS ? YES MR SCHELL. BRIGGS YES, MR LARSON? YES? DOCUMENTS ARE IN THE RECORD YOUR EMOTION ON THE ZONING CHAIN ITSELF. MOVE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO SIX. CAN I HOLD YOU BACK IN THAT, UM BUT, UH, JUST THOUGHT ONE OF MY NOTES THAT I MISSED. THE SCREENING REQUIREMENT FOR ROOFTOP SCREENING. CAN WE ACCEPT SOLAR PANELS FROM THAT? BECAUSE THAT REALLY GET IN THE WAY. YEAH WE CAN THAT. CERTAINLY YES. OKAY THANK YOU. AND I SEE A NOD FROM THE DEVELOPER. OKAY, SO THAT GOES UNDER THE A TEXT CHANGE, SO THAT'S ANOTHER CONDITION. UM LET ME FIND MY MOTION. THERE WE GO. YEAH, I D 11. ROOFTOP SOLAR IS EXEMPTED FROM THE SCREENING REQUIREMENT FOR ALL THIS IS ALL ROOFTOP EQUIPMENT SHALL BE SCREENED. THAT ONE SUFFERS BADLY WHEN SCREENED. AND WE ADDRESS WE HAD THE SAME ISSUE COME UP ON AN APPLICATION MONTHS AGO, AND THERE WAS SOME I WASN'T SUPER IN FAVOR. UM HOW DO WE RESOLVE THAT? I DON'T SO THE PRIOR. DO YOU KNOW I'M TALKING ABOUT DID, UM I'M IN FAVOR HAD THREE DIFFERENT GO ROUNDS ON THIS, ONE OF WHICH WAS. NOT VISIBLE FROM OFF UM NOT VISIBLE FROM THE PUBLIC RIGHT AWAY, WHICH MAKES SENSE. OR IF YOU CAN TUCK IT IN THE BACK OF THE HOUSE IS THROUGH THE HOUSES. WE SAID. SCREENED WHEREVER THAT DOESN'T DETRACT FROM THIS FUNCTIONALITY. THINK THAT'S THE ONE I WOULD WANT WE WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE MAKE THAT BE. THE CONDITION IS STAFF CLEAR. YES, THANK YOU. SCREAM. TO THE EXTENT. EXHORTING YOU.

FEASIBILITY DOESN'T UNPACK THE FUNCTIONALITY FUNCTIONALITY. YEP. I CAN EVEN MAKE A MOTION OR YOU CAN GO AHEAD. ALRIGHT MOVED TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF CITY COUNCIL OF ZONING AMENDMENT APPLICATION CC. ONE OF 4 2022, BASED ON THE FINDINGS AND THE STAFF REPORT. AND THE ADDITIONAL DOCUMENTS IN THE RECORD SUBJECT TO THE FUNDS TO THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS, THE FOUR CONDITIONS THAT ARE SET FORTH IN THE STAFF REPORT. CONDITION FIVE. THAT THERE BE FLEXIBILITY WITH REGARD TO THE UH HUH. LOCATION AND CONSTANT MAKEUP OF THE LEISURE PATH SUBJECT OF STAFF APPROVAL AND WITH INCLUDING WIDTH. UH CONDITIONS SIX THAT THE TYPOGRAPHIC GO. ANOTHER ERRORS IN THE TEXT ARE CORRECTED, UM, SUBJECT STAFF APPROVAL. INCLUDING GENDER REFERENCES.

CONDITIONS. SEVEN. THAT THERE WOULD BE A COMMITMENT TO EMERGENCY ACCESS IN SUB AREA THREE, UM TO CENTRAL COLLEGE. CONDITION EIGHT THAT THE UNDERSTORY BE MAINTAINED. IN SUB AREA FOUR WHERE THEY CAN, WHERE POSSIBLE. SUBJECT TO STAFF APPROVAL. ALWAYS PUT THAT IN CONDITION NINE THAT THE. NUMBER OF TOWN HOUSE IS LOCATED IN A SUBURB AREA FIVE A LIMITED TO 35. A NUMBER OF CONDITIONS, 10 RIGHT OF WAY WILL BE PROVIDED FOR A ROUNDABOUT. THAT SNYDER

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COULD YOU REPEAT THAT? SO ON THE REQUIRED CONTENTS OF THE APPLICATION. IT JUST SAYS THAT THERE'LL BE A WRITTEN STATEMENT REGARDING THE POTENTIAL IMPACT OF THE PROPOSED USE ON THE STUDENT POPULATION. LOCAL SCHOOL DISTRICTS. NO REQUIREMENT FOR A LETTER FROM THE SUPERINTENDENT OF THE SCHOOL REGARDING THUMBS UP OR THUMBS DOWN. DID YOU EVER COMMITMENT THAT WE WILL? CERTAINLY I THINK DOCTORS LAWYERS THAT OF THE COUNTRY RIGHT NOW, BUT WE WILL TRY TO GET THAT WHEN WE GET IN FRONT OF COUNCIL. WE'LL DO OUR BEST TO GET THAT LETTER. I JUST CAN'T GUARANTEE IT OR AGREE TO IT AS A CONDITION BECAUSE OF THAT, I DON'T GET YOU KNOW HE'S GOING TO DO IT IF HE WANTS TO. HE WON'T IF YOU WON'T WE DID OFFER THE EVIDENCE FROM THE PAST. YEAH, BUT. ALRIGHT, SO WE'RE NOT GONNA ADD CONDITIONAL LEVEL, OKAY? I THINK WE CAN ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION. CAN YOU HEAR THE RULE, PLEASE? MR WALLACE? YES, MISS BRIGGS, MR LARSON? NO. MR SHELL. NO. MR KIRBY. YES. AND I NEED TO STATE THE REASON FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO SAY NO POLICE STATE REASON. SO MINE IS ABOUT THE CONVERSATION EARLIER. I THINK THIS WAS NOT TALKED ABOUT IN THE CITY COUNCIL ABOUT BEING A COMMUNITY ORIENTED LOCATION. AND THE OPEN SPACES, WHICH I DON'T BELIEVE IS I DON'T THINK IT'S INVITING TO THE COMMUNITY. OPEN SPACE IS HIDDEN WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT THAT DOESN'T INVITE OTHERS TO COME IN AND CIVIC GREENS. TOO SMALL IS MINE HAVE OTHER CONCERNS. BUT I ARE BOXES THAT ARE IN THE HAMLET STANDARDS, SO I THINK THAT THEY CHECKED THE BOXES AND A LOT OF THE OTHER AREAS WERE WAY BETTER THAN WE WERE A YEAR AGO OR HAVE LONG AGO. IT WAS UM AND I SAID, I THINK THAT THEY'VE CHECKED MOST OF THE BOXES. BUT THE OPENNESS AND THE COMMUNITY CONNECTION WHICH WAS TALKED ABOUT AND HE SAID THAT COUNCIL MEETING IS NOT HIM BEING MET, AND I'D LOVE TO SEE IT DIFFERENT PRELIMINARY PLAN VERSUS SAYING WILL TRY TO RESOLVE IT LATER. WAIT. IT WAS 32 PASSED. I HAVE THAT. MS BRIGGS, MR. WALLACE AND MYSELF VOTED AFFIRMATIVE. THAT BRUCE AND HANS VOTED NO. AND IS THAT WHAT YOU HAVE? SO? YEAH,

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[IX. Poll members for comment]

SARAH ANY COMMENT? NO I'M GOOD, NEAL. THANKS. NO COMMENT THAT WE'R

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