Nov 15, 2022 City Council

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

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HMM. GET EVENING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN AND WELCOME TO THE NEW ALBANY CITY COUNCIL MEETING FOR TUESDAY. NOVEMBER NOW, THIS IS THE RANK 15TH, OKAY? TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 15TH MAKE SURE I GET MY DAYS. RIGHT, GOOD LORD. BEEN A LONG DAY. I WOULD INVITE EVERYONE TO PLEASE STAND WITH COUNCIL INTERNATIONAL PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. SUPPLY. YEAH REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. MASON, THE ROLL, PLEASE. THE COUNCIL WILL TURN ON THEIR MICROPHONES. MAYOR SPAULDING COUNCIL MEMBER BRISK HERE.

COUNCIL MEMBER DEREK HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER FELLOWS IS TRAVELING. HE HAD A VACATION AND BECAUSE HE ANTICIPATED THAT MORE FATHER WOULD BE PRESIDENT. HE ASKED ME TO EXPLAIN THAT THIS WAS A VACATION TWICE POSTPONED DUE TO COVID THAT THEY FINALLY GOT RESCHEDULED AND DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS GOING TO COINCIDE, BUT HE WILL BE HERE FOR THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, INCLUDING THE SECOND READING PUBLIC HEARING. AND AS REQUESTED, AFTER ALL, THAT TO BE EXCUSED. REMOVE THAT WE EXCUSE COUNCIL MEMBER FELLOWS FINISH COUNCIL EVER GETS MY BAND COUNCIL MEMBER SHAWLS HERE, REMEMBER, WILL CHOP HERE I HAVE SIX PRESENT FOR THE NOVEMBER 15 2022 REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING.

THEN I MOVE THAT WE EXCUSE COUNCIL MEMBER FELLOWS AS HE'S OUT OF TOWN SECOND. MAYOR SPAULDING COUNCIL MEMBER OF RISK , YES, THAT'S NEVER WILL CHALLENGE. YES COUNCIL MEMBER SHOP? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER KISSED . YES, YES. SIX. YES FIRST EXCUSE COUNCIL MEMBER FELLOWS

[5. ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS TO THE AGENDA]

[4. ACTION ON MINUTES]

[7. BOARD/COMMISSION REPORTS]

IT DID PASS BY ONE VOTE. IT WAS REFERRED ON TO US. OKAY? PARKS CONTROL ADVISORY BOARD, MR FELLOWS AND I HEAR IS THERE ANY STAFF UPDATE ALRIGHT ARCHITECTURE REVIEW BOARD AND THE UPDATE. THERE WAS A MEETING YESTERDAY THERE WAS ONE ITEM ON THE AGENDA. IT WAS BASICALLY FOR APPROPRIATE APPROPRIATENESS OF SIGNAGE ON 14TH SOUTH BUILDING, READ BEING REMODELED JUST A BLOCK DOWN FROM EAGLE PIZZA ON SOUTH HIGH IN THE SIGN WAS WITHIN UH, THE APPROVED STANDARDS AND IT PASSED. OKAY? BORDER ZONING APPEALS MEETING. SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD.

WE HAVE A SCHEDULED MEETING, BUT THE MAIN AGENDA ITEM WAS A GUEST SPEAKER AT THE RECYCLING PLANT.

NOBODY CANCELED SO EXCITED TO CANCEL THE MEETING UNTIL THEY CAN RESCHEDULE. OKAY CYCLE THE MEETING. WE ARE RECYCLING. ALRIGHT THE IMPLEMENTATION PANEL ANY UPDATE THERE WAS A MEETING

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[9. SECOND READING OF ORDINANCES AND PUBLIC HEARING]

AND, UM, IT'S APPROXIMATELY 18 ACRES. AS I MENTIONED CLOVER VALLEY ROAD WILL EVENTUALLY EXTEND THROUGH THE PROPERTY AND CONNECT TO MAIN STREET. THANK YOU UP THERE, OKAY? UH THE LICKING COUNTY COMMISSIONERS APPROVED THE ANNEXATION PETITION AND AUGUST 9TH OF THIS YEAR.

THERE'S A 60 DAY WAITING PERIOD, WHICH HAS BEEN MET. COUNCIL ENTERED INTO THE ANNEXATION AGREEMENT WITH JERSEY TOWNSHIP. TO ACCEPT THAT SET THE STAGE FOR THIS ANNEXATION PETITION BACK IN 2015. THIS WAS PART OF A LARGER ANNEXATION AREA. THAT WAS PROPOSED. THERE WAS A RESOLUTION APPROVED IN 2021. THAT ADDRESS THE MAINTENANCE OF DRUG STREET, SO ALL OF THE REQUIREMENTS HAVE BEEN MET FOR COUNCIL TO CONSIDER THE ANNEXATION PETITION THIS EVENING. THERE IS ONE CORRECTION THAT I WANTED TO MENTION ON THE LEGISLATIVE REPORT. IN THE EMERGENCY CLAUSE LANGUAGE.

THERE'S A REFERENCE TO WAVING SECOND READING. THIS IS ACTUALLY THE SECOND READING SO THAT THAT WAS ACTUALLY PICKED UP FROM FROM ANOTHER, UH, LEGISLATIVE REPORT . WHAT WE'RE DOING IS JUST WAVING THE 30 DAY REFERENDUM PERIOD AND THAT IS NECESSARY IN ORDER TO MEET THE CONSTRUCTION TIMELINE. IN ORDER TO FACILITATE THE PROJECT. ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL REGARDING THE ORDINANCE.

AND WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. WOULD ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC LIKE TO SPEAK REGARDING ORDINANCE? OH, 30 TO 2022. NO PUBLIC COMMENT. I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND MOVED FOR THE ADOPTION OF ORDNANCE OH, 30 TO 2022. STRIKE IT. AT A COUPLE. THEY'RE SPOTTING. YES YES, YES, YES, YES. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER WILL CHILD YES. SIX. YES VOTES TO APPROVE ORDINANCE 30 TO 2022.

ORTON SO 34 2022 IN THE ORDINANCE TO AMEND THE ZONING ORDINANCE THAT THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY BY MANY DESIGNING MAP TO REZONE 18.3 PLUS OR MINUS ACRES OF LAND. LOCATED AT 1 TO 5 TO FIVE DRUG STREET ROAD FROM AGRICULTURAL, A G AND LIMITED GENERAL EMPLOYMENT LG TO INFILL PLAYING INTO DEVELOPMENT EU DE FOR AN AREA TO BE KNOWN AS THE CLOVER VALLEY ZONING DISTRICT, AS REQUESTED BY M. B. J HOLDINGS LLC CARE OF AARON UNDERHILL. MR MAYOR. THANK YOU. SO THIS IS THE SAME LOCATION AS THE ANNEXATION ELSE PREVIOUSLY HEARD, SO THIS INCLUDES THE KENNEL CLUB USA PROPERTY ALONG WITH AN ADDITIONAL SMALL TRIANGLE PIECE OF PROPERTY TO THE EAST, SO THIS REZONING IS TO APPLY EU DE P U. D S ALLOWED FOR FLEXIBILITY AND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS AND USES IN THIS CASE, THE APPLICANT HAS REZONING. TO APPEAR TO ALLOW FOR A MIXTURE OF ANIMAL BOARDING AND ARE TYPICAL BUSINESS PARK USES SINCE THERE'S NOT ONE EXISTING ZONING DISTRICT THAT ALLOWS FOR THAT MIXTURE OF USES. SO THIS IS THE SUB AREA BREAKDOWN. SO SUB AREA BE SHOWN HERE IS WHERE THE

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MARY SPAULDING. YES, YES, YES, MEMBER CAST. YES, YES. COUNCIL MEMBER WILL TROUT YES, YES.

PHONES. STRIPPER COORDINATES 5 2022 BEFORE WE GET TO THE NEXT ORDINANCE, UH, I JUST WANTED TO ASK THE CITY ATTORNEY AND WE HAVE A LONG TRADITION OF READING THE ENTIRE ORDINANCE. UM BUT FOR THE SAKE OF BREVITY AND THE AMOUNT OF NUMBERS I WOULD HAVE TO READ. UH IS IT POSSIBLE THAT WE CAN JUST REFERENCE? UH THE ORDINANCE HAS WRITTEN AND STILL ALLOW FOR A PRESENTATION IN PUBLIC AREAS. I BELIEVE THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE IN THIS SITUATION. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU . KINDLY FOR YOUR DISCRETION. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN AGAIN, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF CITY COACH SECTIONS THAT ARE BEING UPDATED IN THE CITY ATTORNEY WILL GIVE US A WILL GIVE US AN EXPLANATION AS TO WHAT SOME OF THOSE ARE. BUT JUST KNOW THAT THERE ARE A NUMBER OF THEM THAT WOULD PROBABLY TAKE A GOOD FOUR MINUTES TO READ SO TRYING TO GET THROUGH THE AGENDA AS QUICK AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN ORDER SO 36 2022 IN ORDER TO AMEND THE CODE OF ORDINANCES CITY OF NEW ALBANY, OHIO, TO PROVIDE AMENDMENTS TO TRAFFIC. NEW ALBANY CITY CODE SECTIONS SECTIONS AS THEY APPEAR IN THE DRAFTED ORDINANCE. TO PROVIDE FOR PENALTIES TO PROVIDE FOR QUALIFICATION TO PROVIDE FOR SEVERABILITY TO REPEAL CONFLICTING LAWRENCE'S TO PROVIDE AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES, THEN THANKS AGAIN, MR MAYOR, AS YOU KNOW THAT THERE ARE NUMEROUS CHANGES TO THE I GUESS, PRIMARILY THE TRAFFIC CODE PROVISIONS PROVISIONS RELATED TO TRAFFIC SET FORTH AND CHAPTERS 3 31 AND 3 71 AND ALL THROUGHOUT THEIR AS YOU NOTED, TYPICALLY AND ARE TYPICALLY BUT BASICALLY, THE CHANGES RELATE TO A COUPLE OF BIG TOPICS. ONE PROVIDES FURTHER GUIDANCE THAT UH, IF SOMEONE IS DISTRACTED OR THEIR DISTRACTIONS THAT CONTRIBUTING FACTOR TO VARIOUS PENALTY FOR VIOLATIONS OF CODE THAT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT COULD BE CONSIDERED FOR AN ADDITIONAL FINES, SO CERTAIN SITUATIONS IF SOMEONE'S DRIVING ON THE SIDEWALK, A STREET LAWN OR OVER A CURB AND DISTRACTION AS A FACTOR IN THAT THAT COULD RESULT IN ADDITIONAL FINE AH, CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE TO THE CODE TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT ONE SHOULD NOT ATTACH A, UM ELECTRIC BICYCLE TO A MOVING VEHICLE AS WELL. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COMES UP IN THEIR DRIVING THROUGH SAFETY ZONES. IF YOU'RE DISTRACTED, THAT COULD BE AN ADDITIONAL PENALTY, OBSTRUCTING AN INTERSECTION. FAILING TO GIVE THE APPROPRIATE HAND SIGNAL OR DRIVING ON ONE WAY STREETS AND APPROPRIATELY OR USING TRAFFIC CIRCLES AND APPROPRIATELY IF YOU'RE DISTRACTED, AND THAT'S A FACTOR THAT COULD LEAD TO AN ADDITIONAL PENALTY. UM THERE ARE PROVISIONS IN THERE AGAIN, A REFERENCED RELATED TO INCLUDING THE ELECTRIC BICYCLE INTO SOME OF THE PROVISIONS THAT ADDRESS BIKES AND RIDING ON SIDEWALKS AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. I KNOW THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION LAST TIME OR QUESTION WE COUNSEL ABOUT ARE THERE ANY UPDATES AS TO WHAT IS AN ELECTRIC BICYCLE? AND THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT IN THE WAY OF THE DEFINITION OF A BICYCLE. BUT THERE ARE SOME PROVISIONS IN THE REVISED CODE THAT, UM, TALK ABOUT ELECTRIC BICYCLES. AND IT SEEMS LIKE WHAT YOU THINK MAYBE ELECTRIC BICYCLE IS AN ELECTRIC BICYCLE SCIENCE.

IT DOESN'T RISE THE LEVEL OF A MOPED, WHICH HAS A DIFFERENT SPECIFIC PROVISIONS IN THERE, UM SOME OTHER CHANGES THAT MAY BE OF INTEREST. UM THERE'S DEFINITIONS AS IT RELATES TO WHAT IS AN EARPHONE, AN EARPLUG AND WHAT CAN HAPPEN IF SOMEONE HAS AN EARPHONE EARPLUG OVER BOTH YEARS WHILE DRIVING. AH AD. TRASH VEHICLES, STATIONARY WASTE VEHICLES TO THE TYPES OF VEHICLES THAT ONE SHOULD GET OVER FOR, AS THEY'RE DRIVING ALONG SO LONG AS I USING THE APPROPRIATE LIGHTING, SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS AND I'M HAPPY TO ASK QUESTIONS IF

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BUT I WAS JUST CURIOUS BECAUSE I HAVE HAD A COUPLE OF NEAR MISSES AS I COMMUTE ON A BICYCLE AND THE PEOPLE WHO UM, I WAS JUST QUITE APPALLED TO SEE THEM VIDEO ATTRACTING WHILE DRIVING. AND AS A RESULT, YOU KNOW, I COULD HAVE BEEN HIT BY A CAR. IT'S NOT NOT EVEN NO FURTHER QUESTIONS. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THAT'S A THAT'S A FAIR OBSERVATION. UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF BAD CAMPAIGNS OUT THERE ABOUT TALKING ABOUT IT CAN WAIT. UH NOTHING CAN BE THAT IMPORTANT.

THERE'S HAND FREE OPTIONS. UH, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU DO A VIDEO CHAT AND DRIVE AT THE SAME TIME.

I MEAN, BUT IT HAPPENS, RIGHT? AND THERE'S NOTHING SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSING VIDEO CHATTING IN THERE, BUT IT DOES TALK ABOUT DISTRACTED, DRIVING DISTRACTIONS BEING AN ADDITIONAL FACTOR IN THE EVENT. ONE OF THESE OTHER ISSUES ARISE, SO CHIEF SAID. THAT'S CONTRIBUTING FACTOR FOR CONSIDERATION. OF COURSE, I JUST WANT TO PUT IN MY OBSERVATION THAT I HAVE SEEN ONE CASE WHERE THE CELL PHONE ITSELF WAS ON THE DASH PROPPED UP. NICE TECHNICALLY, HANDS FREE. HMM BUT STILL THAT IS STILL A DISTRACTION. I AGREE. MUST BE IF A PERSON IS PULLED OVER THAT SHOULD BE COUNTED. I BELIEVE FAIR ENOUGH. WE DO APPRECIATE THE COMMENT, SIR. UM I DO, YOU KNOW, JUST FALLING BACK ON THE CHIEF'S COMMENTS REGARDING DISTRACTED DRIVING. UM I THINK

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QUESTION ABOUT THE EXAMPLE PERSONAL IMPROVEMENT FROM THE PROPERTY TAXATION THAT THAT MEAN LIKE THEY WANNA BE TAXED FOR THEIR BENEFITS, BUT I BELIEVE I UNDERSTAND. YEAH TRYING TO UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT ABOUT TIPS AND TAX ABATEMENTS. YEAH, IT'S A WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A MASTER'S LEVEL CLASS. I'M KIDDING. I'M LIVING. IT IS A COMPLICATED TOPIC. BUT STAFF.

MAYBE YOU CAN HELP US A LITTLE BIT TO EXPLAIN THAT. BUT THE SHORT ANSWER FROM MY VIEWPOINT IS WHEN THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY DOES TAX ABATEMENTS. UM IT'S ONLY ON THE IMPROVEMENTS AFTER THE LAND. SO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT FIRE DEPARTMENT ALL THOSE ARE GETTING THE TAXATION THEY'RE ENTITLED TO. IT'S JUST THEY THE TAX THAT'S IMPLICATED. WE MAKE WHOLE WITH INCOME TAX, SO IT'S NOT LIKE THE CITY OF COLUMBUS, WHERE THEY DO TAX ABATEMENTS, AND A LOT OF THOSE ENTITIES ARE NOT GETTING THE TAX BENEFIT. BUT TELL THAT TO MISS CHRYSLER PHILIPSON ON SOME OF THE MORE INTRICATE DETAILS. NO, I THOUGHT THAT WAS A GREAT GREAT SUMMARY. I THINK. GENERALLY SPEAKING TO TEXARKANA FINANCING STRUCTURE ALLOWS US TO DO IS REDIRECT THE PROPERTY TAXES TO ANOTHER SOURCE , SO THE SPECIFIC LANGUAGES THAT THOSE PROPERTIES WOULD BE EXEMPT FROM TAX, BUT THEY'RE ACTUALLY GETTING THEIR TAX BILL IN A DUPLICATE FORM. AND SO THEY'RE PAYING THE EXACT AMOUNT OF TAX THAT THEY WOULD HAVE OTHERWISE HAD TO PAY. IT'S JUST GETTING REDIRECTED FOR OTHER PURPOSES.

THE HIGHER ADVICE CODE ALLOWS US TO REDIRECT THOSE AXES IN VERY SPECIFIC WAYS. WE CANNOT USE THEM FOR OPERATIONS, BUT WE CAN USE THEM FOR PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE. UM ITEMS AT PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE REPLACEMENT THINGS THAT REALLY SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY IN A MEANINGFUL WAY AND HAS TO HAVE A SIGNIFICANT PUBLIC PURPOSE, SO THE PROPERTY OWNERS HERE ARE NOT EXEMPT FROM TEXT. THEY'RE PAYING IT IN A DIFFERENT FORM. UM NOW THEY MAY END UP AS THE MAYOR STATED DOWN THE ROAD QUALIFYING FOR PROPERTY TAX ABATEMENT ON THE REAL PROPERTY THAT'S BUILT.

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WE GOT ONE. DOING NOTHING AGAIN . 6892 JERSEY DRIVE. I APPEARS THAT IN THE RIGHT OF WAY, AT LEAST ON INDICATE, AS INDICATED ON THE MAP, UM IT APPEARS THAT TWO HOMES ARE TO BE DEMOLISHED AS A RESULT OF INSTALLING THE RIGHT OF WAY. THIS MIGHT BE A SLIGHTLY OUTDATED AERIAL, BUT THOSE PROPERTIES SHOWN THERE. I KNOW THERE'S ONE HERE ON THE SOUTH SIDE, SO THIS HAS BEEN PURCHASED BY A COMMERCIAL LAND DEVELOPMENT AND REASON TO ALLOW FOR COMMERCIAL USES. AND THEN THERE'S PROPERTY TO THE NORTH. THIS IS THE KENNEL CLUB USA APPEAR THAT WILL REMAIN AND THEIR DRIVEWAY WILL ACTUALLY BE REALIGNED TO CONNECT INTO THIS NEW PUBLIC STREETS IN THE FUTURE ONCE IT IS CONSTRUCTED. THANK YOU. I JUST THOUGHT IT APPEARED LIKE AN AREA WHERE ONE OF MY COWORKERS AT LEAST FORMER COWORKERS LIVED. UM THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT WITH ME.

YOU'RE WELCOME. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS REGARDING ORDINANCE OF 38. THEN WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE A MOTION ON THE ORGANS? THE MOVE ADOPTION OF BOTH 38 2022 2ND. COUNCIL MEMBERS SAW YES. COUNCIL MEMBER WILL TRAVEL YES. COUNCIL MEMBER KISS? YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER DEREK? YES RISK? YES MAYOR SPOTTING? YES, YES VOTES TO APPROVE ORDINANCES 38

[10. INTRODUCTION AND FIRST READING OF ORDINANCES]

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THROUGHOUT THE THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS, SO THE FIRST STEP IS THE IRAQI FOR BLACK RECORD,

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APOLOGIES OVER HERE ON THE BOTTOM, RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE SCREEN IS THE MEETING THAT WE WERE AT TONIGHT ARE ONE OF TWO MEETINGS THAT WERE OUT TONIGHT SO OBVIOUS. CITY COUNCIL TAKES FINAL ACTION ON THE REASONING APPLICATION. ZONING DISTRICTS ARE RESENTING APPLICATIONS ARE HEARD BY CITY COUNCILS ORDINANCES, WHICH DO YOU REQUIRE TWO READINGS? TONIGHT IS THE FIRST READING OF THE APPLICATION . AND THEN ON DECEMBER 6TH. THERE IS ANOTHER READING OF THE APPLICATION WHERE PUBLIC COMMENT . COMMENT PERIOD IS, UM TAKES PLACE. AS I MENTIONED IF THE APPLICATION SHOULD BE SHOULD THE APPLICATION BE APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL, THE APPLICANTS MUST RETURN. UH FILE A NEW APPLICATION OF FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPLICATION, WHICH ALSO HAS AN EXTENSIVE PUBLIC REVIEW PROCESS AS WELL. SO AT THIS TIME , WE TYPICALLY SEE A PRETTY DETAILED SITE PLAN WITH A FINAL DEVELOPMENT APPLICATION REFINED ARCHITECTURAL OVATIONS, ANY PROGRAMMING THAT'S PROPOSED FOR THE SITE. THE SIZE OF UNITS, DETAILED ENGINEERING PLANS. WE USUALLY HAVE ROAD INTERSECTION PLANS THAT ARE SUBMITTED WITH THAT APPLICATION TYPE AS WELL AS PARK PARKLAND IT OPEN SPACE PLANS. THERE ARE SOME MORE ITEMS THAT WE TYPICALLY WOULD BE DOING THIS PROCESS. BUT THESE ARE THESE ARE THE MAJOR ONES. SO LIKE WHAT THE REASON LIKE THE REZONING APPLICATION PROCESS. THERE IS A PUBLIC PROCESS FOR PUBLIC REVIEW PROCESS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS. SO THE FIRST STEP AND I FOUND DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PROCESSES THE PARKS AND TRAILS ADVISORY BOARD OF THE BABY THEY REVIEW THE PROPOSED PARTNER AT OPEN SPACE DEDICATIONS THAT ARE PROVIDED IN THE ZONING DISTRICT AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO ALBANY PLANNING COMMISSION. AS RECOMMENDED, AND THE ENGAGED COMPANY. STRATEGIC PLAN FOR HAMLET DEVELOPMENTS AND AS IT'S REQUIRED BY CITY CODE, THE ARCHITECTURE OF YOUR BOARD IS ALSO REQUIRED TO REVIEW THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR A HAMLET DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION. ON THE BOTTOM, RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE SCREEN. THE LIGHT WE BOUGHT LIGHTLY BOX. THIS IS THE NEW REALITY PLANNING COMMISSION NOMINEE PLANNING COMMISSION TAKES REVIEWS THE APPLICATION THAT TAKES FINAL ACTION ON A FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN. SO THIS ONE TO KIND OF GIVE HER ONE A LITTLE BIT OF A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THE PROCESS BEFORE DIVING INTO THE APPLICATION ITSELF. SO AS REQUIRED FOR A I P U D ARE SENDING DISTRICTS APPLICATION. THE APPLICANT IS REQUIRED TO SUBMIT A GENERAL PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT SHOWS HOW THE PROPOSED ZONING REGULATIONS COULD BE APPLIED TO THE DEVELOPMENT SITE. SO AS YOU SEE HERE ON YOUR SCREEN, THAT'S WHAT HAS BEEN SUBMITTED AS PART OF THE APPLICATION. I KNOW THAT IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT TO MAKE HEADS OR TAILS OF A BLACK AND WHITE SITE PLAN. ESPECIALLY LOOKING AT IT FROM AN AERIAL VIEW, SO WE IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT TO SEE ON THE SCREEN. I APOLOGIZE, BUT WE ATTEMPTED TO OVERLAY THIS SITE PLAN ON TOP OF AN AERIAL IMAGE JUST TO KIND OF GIVE FOLKS AN IDEA OF WHERE THESE PROPOSED USES WILL EXIST IN RELATION TO EXISTING USERS AROUND THE SITE. SO AGAIN, JUST BEAR WITH ME HERE JUST TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE IS FOLLOWING ALONG THIS TOP ROAD THAT'S RUNNING EAST WEST OR LEFT RIGHT ON THE PAGE THAT IS CENTRAL COLLEGE ROAD. THE ROAD THAT'S RUNNING UP AND DOWN THE PAGE HERE THAT IS NORMALLY CANDIDATE, ROAD OR SIX STATE ROUTE SIX AND FIVE. TACO BELL HERE, PADDINGTON BANK RIGHT HERE AND THEN THE ENCLAVES SUBDIVISION HERE. SO THERE'S ANY DISTRICT BREAKS DOWN THE LIST OF PERMITTED USES INTO FIVE DIFFERENT SUB AREAS WITHIN THE ZONING DISTRICT AND AGAIN TO TRY TO HELP ILLUSTRATE WHAT USES ARE PERMITTED TO BE LOCATED. WHERE ON THE SITE OR WHERE THERE'S ANY DISTRICT. RATHER WE'VE COLOR CODED THE SITE PLAN TO SHOW YOU THE DIFFERENCE OF AREAS SO SUB AREA ONE IS LOCATED ARE SHOWN IN THIS RED COLOR HERE. THIS IS AN DISTRICT ALLOWS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF C THREE USES AS DESCRIBING HER CODE, SOME OF WHICH INCLUDE OFFICE DEVELOPMENT . UH GENERAL RETAIL STORES. PERSONAL SERVICE USES RESTAURANTS, BANKS AND BEAUTY SHOPS LIMITED MULTI FAMILY IS ALSO ALLOWED TO EXIST IN THE SEPARATE AREA IF THEY'RE CONFIGURED AS FLATS. JUMPING TO SEMINARY. IT'S YOU. THIS IS THIS ORANGE THIS MORNING DAIRY HERE

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AGAIN THIS ISN'T NOTATED ON THE PLANET DEVELOPED PLAN AS THE TRANSITION ZONE. THIS ALLOWS MORE OF A MIXED USE CIVIC GREEN OR MIXED USE HABIT. THE CENTER DEVELOPMENT TO BE CREATED, WHICH IS MEETING THE STRATEGIC PLAN RECOMMENDATION TO CREATE SUCH A USE AT THE CENTER OF THE DEVELOPMENT AROUND THE CIVIC GREEN. NEXT. WE'RE GOING TO JUMP TO SUB AREA THREE. THIS IS SHOWN ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE SCREEN IN THIS DARK, DARK BLUE OR NEW ALBANY BLUE HERE. THIS AREA ALLOWS SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED TOWN HOMES AND SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOMES. AND IT STATES. THERE'S ONLY TECH STATES THAT NO MORE THAN 45 MINUTES. 45 UNITS ARE PERMITTED TO BE DEVELOPED IN THE SUB AREA, AND NO MORE THAN 10 OF THEM ARE PERMITTED TO BE DETACHED SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. SUB AREA FOR WHICH IS GENERALLY BISECTING. THE ZONING DISTRICTS IS SHOWN IN THIS GREEN AREA HERE. THIS UM IS ANY DISTRICT ALLOWS PARKLAND AND OPEN SPACE TO BE DEVELOPED. OUR EXISTS IN THAT AREA. RATHER, THIS IS GENERALLY WITH THE SUGAR RUN STREAM CORRIDORS LOCATED AND THE ZONING TEXT ALLOWS FOR THAT STREAM CORRIDOR. UM TO BE KIND OF CLEARED OUT WITH RACIAL SPECIES AND MULCH PASSED TO BE INSTALLED, HAS TO BE INSTALLED TO BE DETERMINED AT THE TIME OF PLAN, ATHLETIC FACILITIES OR OTHER RECREATION FACILITIES ARE ALLOWED AND PERMITTED, ARE PERMITTED TO BE DEVELOPED IN THIS AREA. THE TEXT REQUIRES THAT ANY LIGHTING ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE IMPROVEMENTS BE TURNED OFF BY 10. PM ALGERIA FIVE. THE LAST SUB AREA IS THE LIGHT BLUE AREA LOCATED GENERALLY THE SOUTHERNMOST PERSON DESIGNING DISTRICT ON THE WEST SIDE OF 605. THE SECOND DISTRICT ALLOWS, UM FOR SENIOR LIVING FACILITY USERS TO BE DEVELOPED AND SUPPORTIVE, SUPPORTIVE USES OF THAT TO BE DEVELOPED ON THE SITE ON THAT PERSON OF THE SITE IF THOSE USES ARE NOT DEVELOPED ON THE SITE, THE ZONING TEXT ALLOWS A MAC MAXIMUM 35 SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED TOWN HOMES TO BE DEVELOPED AGAIN. THAT IS IF SENIOR LIVING FACILITIES ARE NOT PERMITTED TO BE ARE ARE NOT DEVELOPED ON THAT PORTION OF THE SITE OR A MAXIMUM 25 DETACHED SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AGAIN IF SENIOR LIVING FACILITIES ARE NOT DEVELOPED. PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN CURRENTLY SHOWS TOWN HOMES BEING DEVELOPED IN THE SUB AREA. THERE'S NOTHING TAX DOES ALLOW FOR ALTERNATIVE PERMITTED USES TO BE DEVELOPED ON THE SITE, AS I'VE JUST DESCRIBED AND BE FINALIZED AT THE TIME OF THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPLICATION. SO AGAIN, THIS IS SHOWING YOU THE PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT AS A WHOLE WITHOUT ANY COLOR CODING ON IT. I DID WANT TO KIND OF HIGHLIGHT IF ANYONE'S TAKING A LOOK AT THE BOTTOM RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE SITE PLAN, YOU'LL SEE KIND OF A BREAKDOWN OF THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF USERS AS THEIR PROPOSED TODAY AT THE TIME OF FINANCE AT THE TIME OF PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN, AS I'VE MENTIONED, THE ZONING TAX DOES ALLOW FOR THE EXACT BREAKDOWN OF THE UNIT TYPES WITHIN CERTAIN SUB AREAS TO BE DETERMINED OR BE FINALIZED, RATHER AT THE TIME OF FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN. HOWEVER AS I'VE SHOWN ON THE POINT A DEVELOPMENT PLAN THERE ARE 100 AND 88 UNITS. ON 32.6 ACRES THAT EQUATES TO A DENSITY OF 5.8 UNITS PER ACRE, WHICH IS MEETING THE STRATEGIC PLAN MAXIMUM, WHICH IS SIX UNITS PER ACRE.

ALSO MENTIONED THIS A LITTLE BIT LATER IN THE PRESENTATION, BUT I DO WANT TO MAKE NOTE THAT ON THIS PORTION OF THE SITE PLAN, IT DOES STATE THAT THE OPEN SPACE TO BE PROVIDED ON THE SITE IS BETWEEN 28 30% WHICH DOES EXCEED THE STRATEGIC PLAN RECOMMENDED MINIMUM OF 25. AND THAT'S ALSO A REQUIREMENT AND CITY CODE. I'LL COME BACK TO THAT PARK LAND UP IN SPACE HERE IN A LITTLE BIT. I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT FOR YOU, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'LL HIGHLIGHT HERE IS IN OUR STRATEGIC CLIMATE RECOMMEND THAT A MINIMUM OF 200 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL SPACE PROVIDED FOR EVERY RESIDENTIAL UNIT THAT'S DEVELOPED ON THE SITE. THE APPLICANT IS ALSO MEETING THAT REQUIREMENT. THAT IS SHOWN HERE , AND CURRENTLY THEY'RE SHOWING 253 SQUARE FEET. UM UH, COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT FOR INTEREST ENSURE UNIT. SO AS AS REQUIRED FOR A REASONING APPLICATION. THE APPLICANT IS REQUIRED TO SUBMIT A STUDENT IMPACT STATEMENT. TO BE REVIEWED BY THE BY CITY COUNCIL. SO AS I MENTIONED A COUPLE OF TIMES NOW

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HOWEVER, THE TEXT DOES REQUIRE THAT ANY BUILDING FACADES FACE CENTRAL COLLEGE ROAD. THEY MUST INCLUDE AN ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES THAT ENCOURAGES PEDESTRIAN ACTIVITY WHICH MEETS THE SPIRIT AND HAVE THIS REQUIREMENT. THE BUILDING MATERIALS OF THE FOR THERE'S ANY DISTRICT INCLUDE BRICK AND HARDY PLANK HARDY PLANT MATERIAL AS WELL AS THE LIMITED USE OF METAL FOR, YOU KNOW, ACCENT FEATURES ON CERTAIN BUILDINGS. IT DOES PROHIBIT THE USE OF VINYL THROUGHOUT PRESENTING DISTRICT. JUMPING TO THE STRATEGIC PLAN. SO THIS SITE. IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT TO SEE ON THIS MAP, AND I APOLOGIZE. BUT THE SITE YOU CAN SEE THE LETTER OVER HERE. IN THE LEGEND. THERE'S A KIND OF A NEW ALBANY, NEW ALBANY BRONZE HATCHING OVER WHERE THE STRATEGIC PLAN CALLS FOR A NEW HAMLET TO BE LOCATED IN THE CITY. THE WHERE DOES THIS IDENTIFIED IN THE STRATEGIC PLAN MATCHES THE EXACT SITE BOUNDARIES OF THE ZONING DISTRICT THAT WE'RE REVIEWING TODAY? I WILL NOT GO INTO A LOT OF DETAIL IN ALL OF THESE, BUT THE APPLICATION DOES MEET OR COMMITS TO MEETING EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS. LISTS FOR HAMLET DEVELOPMENTS. LOOK AND THE ENGAGEMENT OF THE STRATEGIC PLAN. SORRY. SO THE FIRST ONE IS THAT THE STRATEGY PLAN SAYS THAT THE DEVELOPMENT CANNOT SEE EXCEEDS SIX UNITS PER ACRE AS I MENTIONED THROUGHOUT THE PRESENTATION AND IN THE ZONING DISTRICT ZONING TAX, IT DOES COMMIT TO MEETING THAT REQUIREMENT. AS MENTIONED, THE APPLICANT WILL MEET THE 25% PARTNER IT OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENT. A CIVIC GREEN IS PERMITTED TO BE DEVELOPED AT THE CENTER ARE LOOKING INTO THE CENTER OF THE DEVELOPMENT. THE TAX COMMITS TO MEETING A MINIMUM OF 200 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL SPACE FOR EVERY SINGLE RESIDENTIAL DWELLING UNIT AND SURE, A VIBRANT MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT IS ACHIEVED.

COMMERCIAL USES THE STRATEGIC PLAN STATES THAT COMMERCIAL USES MUST INCLUDE SOME MIXED USE

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UM I WAS ASKED TO SPEAK ABOUT THE TRAFFIC STUDY. IN TERMS OF THE METHODOLOGY OF WHAT I BELIEVE ABOUT THE VALIDITY AND TO GO OVER. MY RECOMMENDATIONS RELATED TO THE STUDY FINDINGS AND MY SEPARATE RECOMMENDATIONS. IN DOING A TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY THE TYPICAL PROCESS. IS TO START WITH WHAT WE CALL A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING OR MOU. IT'S A TYPICALLY DONE FOR COMMUNITIES THROUGHOUT CENTRAL OHIO OF WHAT IT DOES, IS IT OUTLINES WHAT THE STUDY IS TO COVER INTERSECTIONS . ASSUMPTIONS OF THE DEVELOPMENT ASSUMPTIONS OF GROWTH ON THE ROADS REGARDLESS OF THE DEVELOPMENT. AH ASSUMPTIONS OF HOW THE DEVELOPMENT TRIP WILL BE DISTRIBUTED. IN OTHER WORDS. WHO GOES SOUTH AND 605, WHO GOES DOWN TO HELP ANY ROAD EAST, FOR EXAMPLE. UM AND WE ALSO CONSIDER IF THERE ARE OTHER KNOWN DEVELOPMENTS IN THE AREA THAT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED IN THE ANALYSIS. UM THERE ARE SOMETIMES ISSUES OF PARTICULAR CONCERN. FOR EXAMPLE, IN THIS CASE, THERE WAS A CONCERN ABOUT TRAFFIC DURING THE AFTERNOON SCHOOL PEAK IN THE MORNING SCHOOL PEAK. AS YOU'RE AWARE, THE MORNING SCHOOL BEAT TYPICALLY OCCURS IN THE TIME FRAME OF THE MORNING COMMUTER PIECE. UM. IN THIS, UM, IN THIS PARTICULAR STUDY. UM. THE ASSUMPTION OF THE DEVELOPMENT WAS. TO HAVE THEIR DEVELOPMENT. PEAK TRAFFIC OCCUR AT THE SAME TIME AS THE HIGHEST PEAKS IN THE MORNING. AND IN THE AFTERNOON. THERE ARE OCCASIONS WHERE DEVELOPMENT MAY NOT EXACTLY COINCIDE WITH IT. BUT IN THIS CASE IS TYPICAL FOR STUDIES. WE CONSERVATIVELY ESTIMATE. THE TRAFFIC OF THE DEVELOPMENT FOR HIS EXACTLY AT THE CRITICAL TIMES IN THE MORNING AND THE AFTERNOON. THIS MAXIMIZES THE IMPACT. IN TERMS OF DATA COLLECTION. THIS PARTICULAR STUDY, UH COUNTERED DATA ON TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 22ND 27TH OF THIS YEAR UM. AND

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THERE'S NO DISCOUNT BECAUSE THIS WAS A HIGHER DOWN BY 8% FOR EXAMPLE, FEBRUARY IS NORMALLY A LOWER UM BELOW AVERAGE, AND IN THAT CASE IF THEY WERE COLLECTED DATA AND FEBRUARY WE WOULD HAVE ASKED HIM TO BUMP IT UP, AT LEAST TO THE EFFORT. UM COMMENT MADE, UM, PLANNING COMMISSION AND I'LL ADMIT I WAS INCORRECT ON IT. I HAD JUST FORGOTTEN THAT THEY HAD ONLY COLLECTED DATA IN THE MORNING TIME FRAME. AND IN THE AFTERNOON NOT DAY LONG. UM BUT THE POINT OF WHAT THE DATA THEY COLLECTED WAS RELATED TO THE AFTERNOON SCHOOL PEOPLE. OTHERWISE, THEY'RE TERRIBLY COLLECTED. 7 TO 9 IN THE MORNING OR THE CITIES IN THE AFTERNOON. IN TERMS OF WHAT THE HANDLING PEAK TRAFFIC ADDS TO THE ROAD WAVES. UM THAT WAS A QUESTION ASKED THAT PLANNING PERMISSION DURING THE PEAK HOURS AT THE VARIOUS INTERSECTIONS THEY STUDIED. 1ST 605 AT THE DISCOVERED DRIVE, AND I'M SORRY, CENTRAL COLLEGE AND DISCOVER AND CENTRAL COLLEGE AT 605. UM THIS DEVELOPMENT ADDS ROUGHLY 5. TO A CURRENT VOLUMES. JUST JUST A QUESTION YOU SAY 5% HOW MANY CARS IS THAT? UM RANGE OF. I'VE GOT IT BACK OVER THERE. WE'RE PROBABLY TALKING UM THE RANGE OF 50 TO 70. HERE JUST SO I UNDERSTAND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 190 RESIDENCES. COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES AND 45,000 SQUARE FEET. IT'S ONLY GOING TO ADD 50 CARS IN THE COURSE OF THE DAY AS YOU RECALL STAND MISSION. THE TRAFFIC. FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT SPREADS OUT IN THE AREA ROADS SOME GOES TOWARDS THE WEALTHY GAMES. SOME GO SOUTH AND SIX OR FIVE TOWARDS WALTON. SOME GIRLS NORTH ONS SO FAR. SO IT DIDN'T DISPERSE US. SO WHEN I WHEN I TALKED ABOUT THOSE NUMBERS, THAT'S JUST A PORTION OF THE DEVELOPMENT SPECIFICALLY EXPECTED TO GO THROUGH THAT INTERSECTION. AND JUST TO FOLLOW UP AND MR DORKS QUESTION. UM, THAT ISN'T CARS FOR THE ENTIRE DAY. THAT WAS JUST CARS DURING THE TWO HOUR PERIOD OF YOUR ACCOUNT, CORRECT PICKED ER TIME.

DO WE HAVE AN AVERAGE COUNT OF HOW MANY CARS WERE GOING THROUGH IT THAT BIG TIME WITHOUT THIS DEVELOPMENT? WHAT YOU'RE SAYING 5% SO I GUESS I COULD DO THE MATH. YOU'RE SAYING 50 TO 75% OF WHAT WAS THERE? THEY DO THAT MATH FOR YOU WOULD LIKE I COULD . IF YOU COULD LIKE I COULD GRAB

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STARTING UP AT CENTRAL COLLEGE AT THE DISCOVERY DRIVE. UM A LEFT TURN LANE TURNING INTO THE SITE WAS RECOMMENDED. GIVEN THE CURRENT ROADWAY. THIS IS A STRIKING CHANGE. BECAUSE THERE IS SUFFICIENT WITH QUOTE. AT 605 AT CENTRAL COLLEGE. UH, NO IMPROVEMENTS WERE RECOMMENDED.

HOWEVER IN MY REVIEW, I DID RECOMMEND THAT THEY PROVIDE SUFFICIENT RIGHT AWAY. FOR A POTENTIAL NORTH BONG RIGHT TURN LIKE, UH, SIX OR FIVE AT CENTRAL PELLETS. THE REASON I DID THAT IS FRANKLY BASED ON THEIR PRIOR STUDY. WHICH ADDING MORE INTENSE DEVELOPMENT. AND. DIFFERENT VOLUMES FROM PRE COVID. WHEN DISCOVERY WAS OPEN. AND, UM. SO THIS IS TO ALLOW FOR THE POTENTIAL FOR UNANTICIPATED TRAFFIC GROWTH. AFTER ALL, WE WERE DEALING WITH THE BEST INFORMATION WE HAVE. AREA DEVELOPMENT. AND THEN AT THEIR DRIVEWAYS THREE AND FOUR AND THEIR DRIVEWAY FIVE UP. IS IT SNYDER LOOP? WE THE STUDY HAD RECOMMENDED. HMM EXCUSE ME, LEFT TURN LANES. UM OF THE OF THE DISTANCE OF ABOUT 175 FT PER INTERNALLY AND THOSE WOULD CONSTITUTE WIDENING OF THE ROAD. IN THE PAST. WE IN THE PRIOR STUDY, WE HAD NOTED THAT AT THE SNYDER LOOP INTERSECTION THAT IF LEFT TURN LANES ARE ADDED. THERE WAS A CONCERN WITH THE MEDIANS AND HOW LEFT TURNS FROM 605 TURNING. IN THE SNYDER LOOP OR INTO THAT DRIVEWAY. GOOD CONFLICT DIRECTLY WITH EACH OTHER. SO ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS IS IF THIS MOVES FORWARD, AND IF THOSE LEFT TURN LANES ARE INSTALLED. DETAILED ENGINEERING NEEDS TO OCCUR TO MAKE SURE THAT DOESN'T HAVE THAT REPRESENTS THE SAFETY OF TRUTH. WE DO CONTINUE. WE DO RECOMMEND CONTINUED MONITORING OF THE SNYDER LUKE INTERSECTION. UM. THE ANALYSIS ALSO INDICATED IN THE STUDY, FIRST SLIDER LOOP ITSELF. THE WIDTH OF THE ROAD. ON THE APPROACH OF SNYDER LOOP TO SIX OR FIVE. ALLOWS FOR BASICALLY TO APPROACH LINES. SO WE COULD HAVE SHORT STRIKING. ON

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THE CITY COULD CONSIDER TAKING STEPS TO REDUCING THE SPEED LIMIT. FROM 45 35. WE ALSO RECOMMEND THAT. IN BETWEEN THE AREAS WHERE THE LEFT TURN LANES WITH THE INSTALLED DEAD THE ENTIRE STRETCH OF THAT SIX OR FIVE B THREE LATE. AND THEN LAST , WE MADE RECOMMENDATIONS ON RIGHT AWAY. INCLUDING THE ADDITIONAL GROWTH FOR NORTH BONG, SIX OR FIVE AT CENTRAL COLLEGE. SO CAN YOU TOUCH ON THE SPEED LIMIT AGAIN? SO YOU'RE SAYING WE COULD POSSIBLY TAKE IT FROM 10 TO 35? SOUTH OF CENTRAL COLLEGE ON 65. YES, WE ALSO. SO IT'S NOT A HARD TRANSITION.

COULD WE REDUCE THE SPEED LIMIT IN NORTH OF CENTRAL COLLEGE AND 605. WE WOULD WE WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT. BUT THAT MAY BE A MORE DIFFICULT ISSUE TO TRANSITION NORTH OF CENTRAL COLLEGE, AND IT'S BECAUSE OF THE CHARACTER OF THE ROADSIDE DEVELOPMENT. AS I MENTIONED.

THIS INTRODUCES A LOT OF HOMES CLOSE TO CENTRAL PELLETS AND CULTURES OF CHARACTER. NORTH AND CENTRAL COLLEGE. CHARACTER WOULD BE DIFFERENT. AND GOING BACK TO. YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT THIS PROJECT IN A VACUUM, OKAY? DISCOVERIES CLOSED TODAY. IT COULD OPEN TOMORROW. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IT COULD BE. IT COULD BE ANOTHER OFFICE BUILDING CAPACITY. DO YOU HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY TO RUN A TRAFFIC STUDY? TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THAT LET'S SAY DISCOVER WAS 2019 DISCOVERY, AND THERE ARE THOSE AMONG EMPLOYEES THERE AND PUT THAT INTO A STUDY. YES, IN FACT , THAT WAS ONE OF THE FOLLOW UP. RECOMMENDATIONS BY THE CITY WAS TO HAVE THEM ANALYZE THE DISCOVERY SAY AGAIN AS A CALL CENTER. AND THEY DID WITH ME ANNOUNCES, UH, BUT WE FOCUSED ON SIX OR FIVE AT CENTRAL COLLEGE BECAUSE IT WAS MORE CURIOSITY WITH THE RIGHT TURN LANE BE NEEDED. LIKE IT WAS IN THE PREVIOUS STUDY. AND THEIR RESULTS WERE NO. NOW BEAR IN MIND. UM THE STUDY. THAT WAS DONE ASSUMES AN OFFICE SPACE HAS ROUGHLY 300 FT. PER EMPLOYEE.

THIS INCLUDES COMMON AREA. FOYER EVERYTHING ELSE. CALL CENTER. AS ABOUT 120. FOR EMPLOYEES, SO IT'S A LOT MORE DENSE AND THEY EVALUATED IT WITH THAT HIGHER DENSITY OF EMPLOYEES. AND, UM AGAIN, WE FOCUSED. JUST ON WHAT WOULD HAPPEN AT CENTRAL COLLEGE AND DISCOVER AND SIMILAR TO THE DEVELOPMENT ITSELF DISCOVERED TRAFFIC DISPERSES. MOST OF IT GOES TOWARDS THE NEW ALBANY ROAD EAST. TOWARDS 1 61 IN COLUMBUS. ONE MORE SORT OF FOLLOW UP ON BEFORE THIS. I WAS UNAWARE THAT IT WAS JUST A 24 HOUR STUDYING ACTUALLY, JUST TO PEAK TIME STUDYING FOR A PROJECT OF THIS SIGNIFICANCE. SO AND ACTUALLY. MR. BALLARD POINTED OUT AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING THAT ONE DAY THAT WE DID PICK WAS AFTER A THREE DAY WEEKEND. THERE'S THAT DEVIATION SUBSTANTIAL ENOUGH TO MERIT. RETAIL MORE TRADITIONAL DAY. THIS STUDY. IN MY ENGINEERING OPINION, NO. I MEAN, WHERE THE STATES NOW I MEAN, WHAT DOES IT COST TO DO ANOTHER? TRAFFIC STUDY ANOTHER DAY LIKE A TEST, IS IT I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S PRECLUDING US FROM AT LEAST EXPLORING AND JUST TO GIVE PEOPLE PEACE OF MIND THAT THIS STUDY IS, IN FACT. YOU KNOW, HAS VERACITY. UM. THE ONLY WAY I CAN SAY IT IS I'M OFFERING YOU MY REC ENGINEERING RECOMMENDATIONS.

I DON'T. I'M NOT AN ENGINEER, SO I'VE GOTTA YOU KNOW, OUTSIDE THE BOX BRAIN, BUT I IT WOULD GIVE ME SOME LEVEL LEVEL COMFORT IF WE DID, YOU KNOW, KIND OF REVISIT AND PLUG IN DISCOVER CARD AND PLUG IN, YOU KNOW, DO A STUDY OF DAY PART THAT IS THERE IS NO ASTERISK. IT'S NOT A THREE

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THAT LOOKED AT THE TWO PEAK HOURS IN THE MORNING THAT TO PEAK HOURS IN THE EVENING DETERMINED THE HIGHEST BY MY TRAFFIC. YOU ADDED. ON TOP OF THAT. CALCULATION THAT DISCOVER CARD WAS BEING USED AGAIN AS AS A CALL CENTER. AND EVEN WITH THAT ADDITIONAL LEVEL OF TRAFFIC THIS DEVELOPMENT ONLY ADD 5% MORE TO THE TRAFFIC FLOW. CORRECT AND TO CLARIFY. I DID NOT DO THIS STUDY. I REVIEWED THIS STUDY STUDY AND IT JUST MADE ME SHOULD YOU KNOW, INTRODUCTION MIGHT BE HELPFUL, RIGHT? SO JUST JUST THERE WAS A SUGAR RUN TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY DONE BY CARPENTER MARTIN. YOU ARE NOT CARPET BOMBARDED WITH THE P FEARS. E P. FERRIS IS THE CITY'S TRAFFIC. CITY CITY ENGINEER CITY TRAFFIC ENGINEER YET SORRY FOR THOSE OF US THAT YOU KNOW. I DON'T SEE YOU EVERY DAY FOR THE DEVELOPMENT CORRECT. SO JUST HOLD ON A SECOND IF I COULD JUST PROVIDE FURTHER CLARIFICATION. SO UM, THIS IS AN EXTENSION OF OUR ENGINEERING STAFF, AND SO JUST LIKE WE EVALUATE THE APPLICATION AS IT COMES IN, WITH ALL THE DIFFERENT STANDARDS WITH RESPECT TO ZONING IN THE ENGAGED PLAN. WE ALSO EVALUATED FROM A TRAFFIC ENGINEERING STANDPOINT, SO THE STUDY ITSELF WAS DONE BY THE DEVELOPERS SUBMITTED TO THE CITY. MR SALOMONSSON REPRESENTS THE CITY IN REVIEWING THAT STUDY TO TELL US WHETHER OR NOT THOSE RESULTS WERE VALID OR NOT. SO HE'S SAYING IN HIS ENGINEERING OPINION, THESE ARE THIS IS THE INFORMATION THAT HE'S BEEN ABLE TO VALIDATE FROM THE STUDY. AND THIS IS WHERE WE WANTED ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. SO, FOR EXAMPLE, ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE JUST DISCUSSED THAT I THINK YOU VERY ELOQUENTLY. UM, SUMMARIZED WAS THAT WE? WE HAD CONCERNS WITH THE FACT THAT THE STUDY WAS DONE WHEN THE DISCOVERY FACILITY WAS NO LONGER OPERATIONAL, AND SO ONE OF OUR RECOMMENDATIONS BACK TO THE DEVELOPER WAS FOR THEM TO REDO THE STUDY USING THOSE HIGHER NUMBERS, AND SO HE'S JUST EVALUATING WHAT THEY'RE SUBMITTING AND HE'S TELLING STAFF AND HE'S TELLING COUNCIL. WHETHER OR NOT THE INFORMATION IN THAT STUDY MEETS THE ENGINEERING STANDARDS MEETS THE STANDARDS FOR STUDY HOURS, YOU KNOW, AND IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT THAT'S THAT'S WRONG. IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE CAN'T ASK THEM TO DO MORE AS A COUNCIL, BUT IF WE'RE ASKING HIM IN YOUR OPINION, DO YOU THINK THIS THIS DAY WAS STUDIED ADEQUATELY? HE'S SAYING IN MY ENGINE ENGINEERING OPINION, IT IS, BUT HE'S NOT SAYING YOU CAN'T ASK THE DEVELOPER TO STUDY IT FURTHER. THIS IS OUR EXPERT THAT WE HAVE ON OUR BEHALF, GIVING US HIS EXPERT ADVICE IN THIS FIELD BECAUSE WE'RE NOT EXPERTS IN THIS FIELD. THAT'S WHAT THAT'S WHAT HIS JOB IS. AND WE'RE EITHER RIGHT. WE CAN MAKE OUR OWN DECISIONS AFTER THAT, BUT YOU'RE THE GENTLEMAN WE GO TO. CAN I BACK UP A LITTLE BIT ON THE NUMBERS? I KNOW YOU SAID YOU MIGHT HAVE TO GO LOOK THIS UP, BUT I DID. I THINK I DID DO SOME MATH. AND I THINK I KNOW SOME MATH, BUT, UH, IF I'M HEARING YOU, RIGHT? I THINK WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING LIKE 50 TO 70 MORE CARS PER THE STUDY PREDICTS 50 TO 70 MORE CARS IN THE PEAK HOUR. AND I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S BOTH IN THE AFTERNOON AND MORNING THE SAME, BUT FOR NOW, WE'LL JUST STAY IN ONE OF THOSE PEAK HOURS, GOING DOWN REYNOLDSBURG NEW ALBANY ROAD AND THAT THAT'S ROUGHLY A 5% INCREASE, WHICH, IF I DO THE MATH TELLS ME THAT THERE'S OVER

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THAT'S REALLY INTERESTING. OKAY SO WHATEVER OUR WE FOUND TO BE OUR BIGGEST PEAK OF THE DAY HAS OVER 1000 CARS GOING THROUGH THAT INTERSECTION AND THEIR STUDY AND YOU VALIDATED IT FEEL FROM YOUR EXPERT OPINION IS ACCURATE. SAYS WE'LL GET 50 TO 70 MORE CARS. DURING THAT PEAK HOUR IN THAT SAME AREA THAT IS THAT, RIGHT? OKAY OKAY. JUST SO I REALLY FULLY UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING YOU'VE JUST SAID. CAN I ASK A QUESTION TO ADD ON TO THAT IF YOU'RE DONE, I'M ALL DONE GOOD LOOKING AT THE INPUT DATA FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT, AND I'M LOOKING AT THE TRAFFIC STUDY IN THE STATE TRIP GENERATION STUDY. AND IT LOOKS LIKE YOU ARE NOT YOU. SORRY CARPENTER. MARTY ASSESSED THE, UM. THE PROPOSED OR THE ASSUMED ENTRIES AND EXITS PER TYPES OF USE FOR THE AM AND PM PEAK. AND I CAN TELL YOU WHAT I CAN SEE WHY THAT EVENING AS HIGHER BECAUSE THAT'S THE HIGHER PMP FOR THE STRIP RETAIL PLAZA, RIGHT? IS THAT YES. RETAIL RETAIL IN THE MORNING IS BASICALLY NOTHING RIGHT? I WAS A LITTLE SHOCKED, THOUGH, WHEN I'M LOOKING AT THESE NUMBERS, AND I GUESS I'M NOT A TRAFFIC ENGINEER, EITHER. UM, BUT IT LOOKS PRETTY LOW FOR THE DWELLING UNITS FOR THE NUMBERS BECAUSE I MEAN, I WORK AT HOME. SO THIS IS MY NEW NORMAL RIGHT? BUT 116 DWELLING UNITS WOULD BRING OUT 38 ACCENTS FOR THE TOWN HOMES. IS THAT CONSISTENT WITH YOUR EXPERIENCE? YES. WHATG AT A SINGLE FAMILY HOME DETACHED. THIS IS A TOP, OKAY.

THIS ISN'T ATTACHED TO A TOWN HALL. MM CHARACTER OF OCCUPANTS AND THE TOWN HOME. IS GENERALLY DIFFERENT THAN A SINGLE FAMILY HOME. A SINGLE FAMILY HOME TYPICALLY HAS CHILDREN. MHM MULTIPLE CHILDREN, A TOWN HOME, MAKE YOUR SBI A COUPLE OR ONE PERSON. MHM IN GENERAL TOWN HOMES. HAVE LOWER. TRAFFIC GENERATION PER UNIT THAN A SINGLE FAMILY HOME. UH, A SINGLE FAMILY HOME DURING THE COURSE OF A DAY TYPICALLY IS ABOUT 10 TRIPS. IN OTHER WORDS, BY ABOUT FIVE MINUTES. YOU THINK ABOUT ONE PERSON GOING TO WORK COMING BACK IN THE EVENING. THAT'S TWO TRIPS. HMM PERSON TAKES THEIR CHILD TO SCHOOL AND COMES BACK HERE AT FOUR. IN THE AFTERNOON AND COME BACK. YOU'RE SICK. YOU CAN USUAL HERE. FOR THE TOWN HOME. IT MAY BE MORE OF GO TO WORK. COME BACK. MAYBE YOU GO OUT TO EAT COME BACK, BUT IT'S LOWER. SO THE TOWN HALLS GENERATE LOWER TRIPS THAN A SINGLE FAMILY HOME. BUT THIS WILL ASSUME THAT OVER. PROBABLY I MEAN, JUST DOING QUICK MATH RIGHT HERE, WHICH IS DANGEROUS, BUT THAT 60% OF THE 118TH DWELLING UNITS. PEOPLE WORK FROM HOME BECAUSE THERE'S ONLY 38 EXIT TRIPS FOR 116. SO EVEN IF THERE'S JUST ONE PERSON LIVING THERE SO I KNOW YOU DIDN'T CREATE THIS DATA. THESE ARE JUST THE QUESTIONS THAT POSTED THE STUDY WAS DEVELOPED. UM I WOULD SAY PRE COVID, OKAY? WHICH ASSUMED YES, SOME PEOPLE WORKED AT HOME, BUT NOT THE LEVEL. WE ARE NOW. OKAY SO THIS IS EVEN THIS IS THIS. THIS IS BASED ON OLDER NUMBERS. IT'S BASED ON BOULDER NUMBERS, BUT IT'S THE MOST RECENT INFORMATION WE HAVE, AND IT'S BASED ON NATIONAL AVERAGE. OKAY THAT WAS MY NEXT QUESTION OF WHERE THE NUMBERS COMING FROM THE NATIONAL AVERAGES ARE STANDARD. FOR ANY TRAFFIC ENGINEER TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY. THEY'RE THEY'RE BASED ON EXTENSIVE DATA COLLECTION. IT'S A THE ORGANIZATION THAT HANDLES IT AS A HUGE REPOSITORY OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF LAND USES EXPENSIVE DATA FOR HOMES, FOR EXAMPLE, THEY GO BACK AT LEAST 40 YEARS. MHM MHM MHM SO AS THE IF IT'S BASED ON A NATIONAL AVERAGE IS THAT BASED ON MORE LIKE WOULD YOU BE COMPARING LIKE A METROPOLITAN AREA WHERE PEOPLE TYPICALLY WALK TO WORK. UM WITH LIKE A NEW ALBANY WHERE PEOPLE YOU KNOW, PROBABLY NEED TO DRIVE EVERY DAY TO WORK TO GET THOSE EXIT UNIVERSITY STUDY THE THIS

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I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A. AND I'LL JUST MAKE IT QUICK. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A DISTINCTION BETWEEN SINGLE FAMILY IN TOWN HOME WHEN A TOWN HOMES 652 $750,000. I DON'T SEE LIKE YOUNG DOWN HOME. I THINK IT'S YOUNG PEOPLE, OKAY? THEY DON'T HAVE KIDS, YOU KNOW? FOR THIS STUDY.

I DON'T KNOW. THERE'S A DISTINCT BETWEEN SINGLE FAMILY IN TOWN HOME FOR THIS IMPACT. THAT'S WHAT THAT'S WHERE I'M AT HIM. THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO I UNDERSTAND. DO YOU HAVE A ENGINEERS ANSWER THAT WHICH AT HOME? WE DON'T CONSIDER THE COST OF A HOME IN THE ANALYSIS, IT'S JUST THE CATEGORY SHIN CATEGORIZATION OF THE DEVELOPMENT. SO IT IS. SQUARE FOOTAGE FACTORED IN OR OR OR AMOUNT OF MY LOT LION OR ANY OF THAT, SO THEY DO THAT WITH THIS REPOSITORY DOES CONSIDER LIKE I HAVE TO GO REALLY DELVED DEEP INTO IT. IT MAY CONSIDER AVERAGE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF A UNIT. I AM NOT SURE BUT AN AVERAGE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF A TOWN HOME AND I'LL USE BOSTON AGAIN AS AN EXAMPLE. 650,000 SQUARE. $650,000 TOWN HOME IN BOSTON, I SUSPECT WOULD BE PRETTY SMALL, RIGHT? COMPARE. UNDERSTOOD. OKAY? DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? YEAH I GOT QUICK QUESTION HERE. MAYBE NOT BE SO QUICK. UM ALRIGHT, SO I UNDERSTAND YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS , UM, BEING TURN LANES IN THREE DIFFERENT AREAS, AND THIS IS A GOOD SLIDE TO HAVE UP THERE. AND MY ASSUMPTION. IT IS AND I'LL JUST PICK OUT ONE OF THE AREAS FOR THE TURN LEAD SNYDER LOOP.

RIGHT DOWN THERE, AND I THINK IT'S SOUTHERN. MAYBE IT'S SOUTHERN STREET IS WHAT THEY'RE CALLING THE ACROSS FROM IT TO GO INTO SUB CANNABIS SUB AREA FIVE THERE MUST BE AN ISSUE.

OBVIOUSLY THEY NEED THOSE TURN LANE. THERE'S A LOT OF CARS COMING UP AND DOWN ON 605. MY QUESTION TO YOU IS WHEN YOU WERE LOOKING AT THE DATA. I CAN ONLY IMAGINE WITH THOSE TURN LANES NOW HOW DIFFICULT IT MIGHT BE FOR THE PEOPLE, UH, OFFICE SNYDER IN THE ENCLAVE TO TURN LEFT. COMING OUT OF THEIR OWN DEVELOPMENT ONTO THAT, UM AND VICE VERSA. PEOPLE COMING DOWN THAT NEW SOUTHERN TRYING TO TURN LEFT TO HEAD NORTH ON 2605. DID THE ANALYSIS OR IN YOUR OPINION ? IS THIS SOMETHING WE SHOULD MAYBE CONSIDER OR LOOK FOR MORE NEW DATA, POTENTIALLY TO SIGNAL EYES THAT AREA OR EVEN PUT AROUND ABOUT BECAUSE I'M A LITTLE NERVOUS ABOUT THOSE FOLKS TRYING TO GET OUT OF THEIR OWN DEVELOPMENT. UM WITH THE ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC THE 80 SOME THAT ARE NOW COMING DOWN THAT STREET. IN ADDITION TO THE 1000, THERE'S INCLUDING THE BUS BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S A BUS STOP THERE. THERE'S TWO PARTS TO THAT ONE. BUT WHAT IS THE BENEFIT OF THE LEFT TURN LINE? AND THEN SECOND WHAT ELSE TO HEAVEN? THE BENEFIT OF THE TURN LANE. UM, IS. IT ALLOWS PEOPLE TURNING LEFT TO GET OUT OF THE WAY OF THE THROUGH TRACK. AS IT IS TODAY, IF SOMEBODY IS TRYING TO TURN LEFT SAYING THIS MATTER, LOU THEY'RE STOPPING THE CARS BEHIND THEM. SO SOMEBODY TRYING TO TURN LEFT OUT? NOT ONLY HAS TO WAIT FOR THAT LEFT TURNING CAR. BUT THEN THE BACKUP BEHIND THEM. AND THAT ADDS TO THE DELAY. BY GETTING THEM OUT OF THE WAY. THOSE THROUGH CARS HAVE ALREADY GONE BY SO YOU MAY ACTUALLY IMPROVE. THE EGRESS.

SNYDER, LOU. IN TERMS OF OVER AND ABOUT ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENTS. THIS INTERSECTION IS NOT EVEN CLOSE TO MEETING SIGNAL WARRANTS. AND IT'S RELATIVELY CLOSE TO WELTON PARKWAY. UM. BUT WE ARE VERY WE BEING E P FARES. IS VERY CAUTIOUS ABOUT PUTTING IN

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FOR THE CITY IN TERMS OF PRESIDENT AND. AND EVEN SAFETY BECAUSE ONE ISSUE WITH TRAFFIC SIGNALS IS YOU DO TEND TO GET A CHANGE IN THE TYPE OF TRAFFIC CRASHES THAT OCCURRED FOR EXAMPLE, REAR END CRASHES TYPICALLY OCCUR. THAT'S CERTAINLY WE ALSO CONSIDERED AROUND ABOUT THERE IN THE PAST ABOUT A YEAR AGO, AND WE HAD THE PREVIOUS STUDY THE ISSUE THERE IS IT'S JUST TO THE SOUTH OF THE PICTURE. THERE'S A DRIVEWAY. I BELIEVE IT'S CVG. THEY HAVE A DRIVEWAY. ANOTHER COMMERCIAL DRIVEWAYS, SO PUTTING AROUND ABOUT THEIR CREATES DIFFERENT PROBLEM. REMEMBER HOW I MENTIONED THAT COULD BE CONSTRAINTS AND PUTTING IN A ROUNDABOUT OR SIGNAL. AND SO I'M NOT SAYING YOU CAN'T DO IT. BUT IT'S A CHALLENGE. BECAUSE NOW YOU'RE COMPLICATED. THE ISSUE. IN TERMS OF ANOTHER LAND. COULD I JUMP IN? I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE THIS INFORMATION OFF THE CUFF, BUT I'M TRYING TO PROJECTED TRAFFIC THAT COULD BE COMING FROM THE PROPOSED INTERSECTION AND COMPARE IT TO SAY THE TRAFFIC AT THE INTERSECTION OF VILLAGE HALL AND 62. UM IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU'D BE ABLE TO REFERENCE FAIRLY QUICKLY? THIS IS A VERY BUSY INTERSECTION WITH THE POST OFFICE AND IT'S ALL TRAFFIC, WONDERING HOW BOTH OF THEM COMPARE. IF I UNDERSTAND, RIGHT? COULD I PROVIDE A COMPARISON BETWEEN THE DRIVEWAY RIGHT OUT HERE COMPARED TO THE DRIVEWAY OPPOSITE SNYDER. LUKE, IS THAT, UM I'M THINKING ABOUT THE SNYDER LOOP INTERSECTION BEFORE WE INTERCEPT SECTION THAT WOULD BE CREATED BY VIRTUE OF THIS DEVELOPMENT. WITH THE FOUR WAY INTERSECTION THAT WE HAVE RIGHT HERE AT VILLAGE HALL IN 62. UM AS IT AS A DECISION RIGHT THERE. WHERE THAT DRIVEWAY FIVE ENDS.

TO THE WEST. UM I WOULD SUSPECT THAT'S LOWER. THEN WHAT SHE WOULD HAVE HERE AND THE REASON IS IT'S A POST OFFICE IS BUSY AND PLUS, YOU'VE GOT VILLAGE HALL ITSELF, WHICH IS A THROUGH ROADWAY. UM SO I SUSPECT THIS IS HIGHER. THEN THAT BUT AGAIN, I WOULD HAVE TO CHECK IF THE ROAD WERE TO EXTEND OVER THE NEW ALBANY ROAD, EAST OR WHEREVER THAT GOES TO WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO RE LOOK AT THAT. BECAUSE I THINK YOU MAY HAVE MORE TRIPS. AND THEN THAT WOULD IN ITSELF IMPLY WHAT ELSE DO WE NEED TO DO? AT 605 AND SNYDER LOOP AS A TRAFFIC ENGINEER, UM, APPRECIATING THAT THERE'S A TRAFFIC LIKE NORTH AND TRAFFIC LIGHT VERY CLOSE TO THE SOUTH IF THERE WAS GOING TO BE UM, TRAFFIC CONTROL DEVICE AT THAT INTERSECTION WOULD YOU WOULD RECOMMEND AROUND ABOUT OVER A TRAFFIC LIGHT? UM. I DON'T KNOW THEY'RE MEANT TO WORK . THERE'S PROS AND CONS OF EACH IF YOU PUT A TRAFFIC SIGNAL THERE, YOU'VE GOT TWO CLOSELY SPACED SIGNALS. AND IT CAN CREATE A CHALLENGE IN TERMS OF TRYING TO PUSH TRAFFIC NORTH SOUTH THROUGH THERE. IF YOU DO AROUND ABOUT THE CHALLENGES, YOU'VE GOT A SIGNAL JUST TO THE SOUTH AND ROUNDABOUTS WORK WITH RANDOM ARRIVAL. THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL TO THE SOUTH. PUT THIS WHOLE SLUG OF TRAFFIC. UP TO THE ROUNDABOUT AND CREATES A DIFFERENT PROBLEM. I DON'T SAY IT'S INSURMOUNTABLE, RIGHT? BUT AGAIN, IT RELATES TO THE OTHER CHALLENGES AT THAT INTERSECTION. SO WE COULD ALSO CONSIDER LESS.

I'M SORRY. JUST ONE. WE COULD ALSO CONSIDER POTENTIAL CHANGE AT THAT LIGHT OFF WALTON AND AROUND ABOUT OR EVEN CENTRAL COLLEGE. AND 605. TO USE THAT FLOW OF TRAFFIC IS YOU'RE DISCUSSING CONSIDER THINKING. YOU COULD CONSIDER THAT. YES BUT THAT THAT'S OUTSIDE THE PARAMETER OF THIS STUDY. BUT IT LENDS ITSELF TO WHETHER IT'S OUTSIDE. BUT IT'S AN ISSUE THAT I KNOW IS EXISTING TODAY AND THIS WILL NOT HELP THAT. DEVELOPMENT WOULD NOT HELP. THE TRAFFIC FLOW THROUGH CENTRAL OUT. IF I RECOLLECT THERE WAS DISCUSSION THAT PLANNING COMMISSION ABOUT AROUND ABOUT OR DISCUSSION OF AROUND ABOUT ITS CENTRAL COLLEGE IN 605. UM. THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE EVALUATED. THANK YOU. SORRY CLARIFICATION OF SOMETHING I THOUGHT YOU SAID EARLIER. ALONG THE LINES OF THESE TURN LANES IF WE ENTERTAIN AND WILL PROBABLY POTENTIALLY

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EXCUSE ME. I WAS HAVING SOME TROUBLE WITH MY VOICE TONIGHT. BUT ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION, AND WE SHOULD PROBABLY HAVE MADE INTRODUCTIONS IN THE BEGINNING.

SO THANKS FOR BALANCE IS 2020, BUT THANK YOU, SIR. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. AND I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF INTEREST IN THE AUDIENCE , SO TO SPEAK ON THESE ISSUES. TONIGHT'S NOT THE NIGHT FOR PUBLIC PARTICIPATION ON THIS ISSUE. UM THAT'S REALLY COUNCILS OPPORTUNITIES, QUESTION STAFF AND FOLKS MAKING THE PRESENTATION, SO I APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE. UM WE'LL CERTAINLY HAVE A LOT TO SAY. I'M SURE IN THE COMING WEEKS ON THIS ISSUE. UM YEP. FROM HERE. YEAH.

YEAH I'LL GO AHEAD AND JUST COME TO THE MICROPHONE. REAL QUICK. SORRY JENN. JENNIFER MASON LIKES TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE A CLEAN RECORD FOR BROADCASTING. THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO HEAR. THERE'S JUST NO, SOMEONE'S TALKING. THAT'S OKAY. MY NAME IS AMY LANE. I LIVE AT 6941 WANTED STREET AND I JUST HAVE A QUESTION I COMMERCIALIZED BIOTECHNOLOGY AND HEALTHCARE SYSTEMS. AND SO DATA AND WHERE IT'S COMING FROM AND WHO IS PAYING FOR IT. YOU KNOW, IT'S A VERY RARE THAT THE CLEVELAND CLINIC OR SOME LARGE INSTITUTION CARES ABOUT. THE DATA THAT MY COMPANY PAID FOR, YOU KNOW, WE ALWAYS LIKE TO KNOW. WE LIKE AN OUTSIDE PARTY INSTEAD OF MY COMPANY PAYING FOR THE DATA? OH, STANFORD FOR THE DATA, SO I THINK THAT I AM QUESTIONING.

THANK YOU, SIR FOR INTERPRETING THE DATA, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW. DO AGAIN PAID FOR THE DATA THAT YOU'RE INTERPRETING BECAUSE YOU DO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY WHEN YOU PAY FOR IT TO MANIPULATE IT, SO I JUST KIND OF WANT MORE INFORMATION ON THE INITIAL DATA COLLECTION. MAYBE IT'S OUT THERE AND I JUST HAVEN'T SEEN IT, BUT I WANT TO BE PREPARED FOR NEXT TIME AND, UM SOME OF THE ANECDOTAL STUFF MATTERS AS WELL . QUALITY OF LIFE FOR YOUR CITIZENS. AND I KNOW WE'RE TALKING NUMBERS OF VEHICLES BUSSES. I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY BUSSES WE HAVE COMING OUT AT THAT TIME. MAYBE 50 TO 70, WHICH IS POSSIBLY THE AMOUNT OF VEHICLES THAT WERE ADDING AND WE HAVE A POLICE. PERSON STOPPING TRAFFIC DOING THAT. SO I'M LIKES THINK ABOUT ALL THE ANGLES AND WE GOT THIS. APPRECIATE WHAT WE'LL DO IS I KNOW, I ASKED CLERK MASON TO MAKE SURE THAT WE POST A COPY OF THIS POWER POINT PRESENTATION ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE UNDER THE COUNCIL. UM PORTION OF THE PAGE WITH THE AGENDA. MAYBE WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT CREATING ANOTHER LANDING PAGE FOR A LOT OF THIS INFORMATION, BUT THERE'S NO REASON WHY THE CARPENTER MARTYR MARTY STUDY CAN'T BE POSTED ONLINE. IT'S A PUBLIC DOCUMENTS AND SHARED WITH THE CITY AND EVERYONE CAN ANALYZE IT AND PREPARED TO ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT THE STUDY. AND JUST TO BE CLEAR THIS WAS PAID FOR BY THE DEVELOPER, AND I'M SURE WHEN THE APPLICANT GETS UP HERE, THEY CAN TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW THAT PROCESS WORKS. ALL RIGHT. I KNOW THAT BEN WAS GONNA HELP US UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT MORE. UM ABOUT THIS. THANKS, MR MARIN. I'LL BE I'LL BE BRIEF. CHRIS DID A NICE JOB IN HIS INTRODUCTION, EXPLAINING HOW THE PROCESS WORKS AND HOW WE GOT TO THIS POINT.

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YES, SIR. IMPACT ON SCHOOLS OF YIELD FACTORS, METHODOLOGY. YOUR MIKE. I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE METHODOLOGY. FOR THE SCHOOL IMPACT IN THE YIELD FACTORS. CLEARLY WE'VE HAD A VERY DIFFERENT KIND OF REAL ESTATE. MARKET IN THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS AND TRANSITION HOUSING PRICES IN THE LACK OF HOUSING, AND I THINK CLEARLY A BIG DEMAND FOR FAMILIES TO MOVE INTO NEW ALBANY AND GET INTO THE SCHOOL SYSTEM. SO I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHEN YOU SAY HE'LL FACTOR OF X NUMBER OF UNITS FOR FLATS AND X NUMBER OF UNITS FOR, UM, HOUSE OR A TOWNHOUSE. HOW OFTEN ARE THOSE YIELD FACTORS? REVISED AND ADJUSTED OR CALIBRATED. AND WERE THESE PRE COVID POST COVID. I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IF IN FACT THE ENVIRONMENT IS DIFFERENT TODAY. AND WITH THOSE FACTORS BE ANY DIFFERENT. THEN WHEN THEY WORK TWO OR THREE YEARS AGO. HISTORICALLY WE'VE UPDATED THE NUMBERS. THESE YIELD FACTORS, USUALLY ABOUT EVERY LIKE 45 YEARS. THE YIELD FACTORS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THE ANALYSIS HERE ARE FOR THE 2022 2023 SCHOOL YEARS. THEY'RE BASED ON THE CURRENT NUMBER OF STUDENTS THAT ARE GENERATED ON A PER UNIT BASIS. SO THAT'S PER HOUSE, OR PER FLATS OR POOR TOWN HOME, AND THAT'S FOR THOSE TYPES OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF HOUSING DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS JUST WITHIN THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY. SO WE LOOKED AT THOSE DENSITIES BECAUSE WE FEEL APARTMENTS IN TOWN HOMES AND SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES ARE DIFFERENT WITHIN THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY, THEN WITHIN OTHER AREAS OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AS A WHOLE. SO THOSE ARE JUST NEW ALBANY NUMBERS BASED ON THE YIELD FACTOR. OF WITHIN OUR JURISDICTION. YOU GET THOSE FROM THE SCHOOL? THAT'S CORRECT. SO THE SCHOOL GAVE YOU THE DEAL. FACTORS? YES. TO BE

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ALRIGHT IS ACTUAL SCHOOL DATA WAS THE CITY'S DATA 28. THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. IT WAS 28, RIGHT? YEAH, THEY WERE BOTH 28 DIFFERENT. WAYS TO GET THERE. TOTAL NUMBER OF UNITS. YES CAME OUT 28 JUST WANNA CLARIFY. WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING FROM THE SCHOOL. THIS IS YOUR ANALYSIS.

BUT THE SCHOOL HAS NOT. NO, IT DIDN'T COME FROM THE SCHOOL. THE SCHOOL DIDN'T DO THE ANALYSIS, THE ANALYSIS. WE SAT DOWN WITH THE SCHOOLS AND MET WITH THEM AND WENT TO THEIR OFFICES AND DID THIS TOGETHER, SO WE GATHER THE DATA AND LITERALLY WENT LIKE NEIGHBORHOOD BY NEIGHBORHOOD SUBDIVISION BY SUBDIVISION TYPE OF UNIT BY PUBLIC UNIT. WE MET WITH THEM FIRST TO TRY TO ESTABLISH A STRATEGY AND THEN DECIDED THAT THE BEST THING TO DO WITH HAVE ARE PLANNING TEAM GO SIT DOWN WITH THE FOLKS AT THE SCHOOL THAT ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR HELPING TO COME UP WITH THIS INFORMATION AND THEN COME UP WITH A NUMBER TOGETHER. THAT MADE SENSE. I DON'T KNOW IF THE 28 IS THE MOST RELEVANT NUMBER. I THINK WHAT'S MORE RELEVANT, AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT SLIDE. IS THE FACT THAT WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO DETERMINE IS WHAT WAS THE YIELD PER UNIT BECAUSE AGAIN THE 28 IS BASED ON THE PLAN THAT YOU SEE BEFORE YOU, WHICH COULD BE MODIFIED IN THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN TO SHOW DIFFERENT NUMBERS OF UNITS, SO WE HAD A DIFFERENT NUMBER THAN THE DEVELOPER DID WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE YIELD SO WE USE THIS PLAN TO KIND OF AH! PENCIL IT OUT SO THAT WE CAN UNDERSTAND THAT, OKAY, IF THIS WERE THE PLANS SUBMITTED AS A PART OF THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT APPLICATION, AND WE USED OUR YIELD NUMBERS THAT WE DEVELOPED OR WE FOUND WITH THE SCHOOLS, AND WE USE THEIR YIELD NUMBERS, WHAT WOULD BE THE TOTAL BASED ON THIS DEVELOPMENT? SO 28 ISN'T THE NUMBER. IT'S JUST THAT'S JUST KIND OF AN EXAMPLE THAT WE CAN SAY. OKAY EVEN THOUGH OUR YIELD PER UNIT MIGHT BE DIFFERENT, WE ENDED UP GETTING TO THE SAME NUMBER WITH THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT HERE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS FOR US, AS FAR AS LIKE, YOU KNOW HOW WE USE THAT DATA, BUT I THINK IT LEAST IS USEFUL IN TRYING TO UNDERSTAND KIND OF THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN WHAT THEY SUBMITTED PER UNIT AND WHAT WE WHAT WE FOUND. ALRIGHT ANY ADDITIONAL STAFF COMMENT OR COUNCIL QUESTIONS TO STAFF? APPLE PRESENT NOW I WILL SPEAK.

I THINK I'LL WAIT TILL YEAH, YEAH. WITH THE APPLICANT LIKE TL INFORMATION FIRST READING. THANK

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UM I WOULD SAY THAT ANYTIME I HAVE A CLIENT THAT CAN DO THAT, I FEEL PRETTY GOOD WALKING IN THE DOOR AND I FEEL PRETTY CONFIDENT THAT WILL BE WELL RECEIVED. I CERTAINLY DO GET IT.

WHY WHY THIS DESERVES SOME FURTHER THOUGHT, AND HERE AGAIN , STEINER'S BEEN PATIENT AND DONE ITS BEST TO TRY TO ADHERE TO WHAT IT CAN IN THE NEW PLAN. SO YOUR UPDATED STRATEGIC PLAN HERE FROM EARLIER IN THE YEAR IS REFLECTED HERE. AND HERE IS OUR CURRENT PLAN. UM AS STAFF MENTIONED, WE MEET ALL 15 OF THE CRITERIA. SO WENT FROM 11 OUT OF 12 TO 15 OUT OF 15. THAT'S PRETTY GOOD. UM YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT THERE'S A LOT OF POLICY DECISIONS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE TO DATE, AND THIS IS ALSO A POLICY DECISION AS WELL. BUT UH , IN TERMS OF SETTING EXPECTATIONS FOR AN APPLICANT DUE PROCESS, ETCETERA, UH, YOU WAIT OUT QUITE A FEW STANDARDS FOR US A LOT OF CODE PROVISIONS TO ADHERE TO AND WE'RE MEETING THEM ALL. HERE IS A SIDE BY SIDE OF THE TWO PLANS YOUR UPDATED STRATEGIC PLAN ON THE LEFT FOR HAMLET AND THE CURRENT PLAN ON THE RIGHT THIS COLOR RENDERING JUST MADE AVAILABLE TO US LATE YESTERDAY, SO I EXPECT WHEN WE COME BACK TO YOU THE NEXT TIME YOU'LL HAVE THAT COLOR PLAN AVAILABLE TO YOU TO LOOK AT IT A LITTLE EASIER TO READ. SO UM, BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, YOU LOOK AT THESE SIDE BY SIDE AND THERE ARE REALLY A LOT OF SIMILARITIES, AND THAT'S ON PURPOSE. SO WHAT'S HAPPENED HERE? UM IN THE 2021 PROPOSAL, WE HAD 30.33 ACRES. UM, WE HAVE 32.6. NOW AT THE TIME OF THE ORIGINAL APPLICATION OR RECALLING THAT SORT OF A MISSING NOTCH ALONG 605 SORT OF IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS PROJECT ON THE WEST HAND WESTSIDE, STEINER AND ASSOCIATES HAS BEEN ABLE TO GO OUT AND ACQUIRE THAT GROUND, SO I THINK THAT'S A POSITIVE THAT'S HAPPENED AS A RESULT OF THE DELAY HERE. WE'RE ABLE TO COMPREHENSIVELY PLAN THAT PART OF THE PROJECT AS WELL AND THAT THAT THAT LAND OUR OUR PLAN HAS GONE FROM 340 UNITS DOWN TO 188 ON THIS PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN, WHILE THE STRATEGIC PLAN WOULD ALLOW 195 UNITS AT SIX UNITS AND ALL SIX UNITS, AGRO SACRE UM, THE 200 SQUARE FOOT OF COMMERCIAL USE IS REQUIRED FOR EVERYONE DWELLING UNIT IS A NEW ADDITION SINCE THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL. UM OUR PLAN HAS SHOWN HAS 252 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL PER ONE DWELLING UNIT . ADMITTEDLY UM, THIS COULD CHANGE SOME MARKET DEMAND, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE. THE COMMERCIAL USES WILL BE DRIVEN LARGELY BY MARK WHAT THE MARKET TELLS US AND HE WAS INTERESTED, SO I DON'T EXPECT TO COME IN WITH EXACTLY 47,500 SQUARE FEET WITH A FRIEND. DEVELOPMENT PLAN, BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, WE WILL IN FACT METER EXCEED THAT 200 SQUARE FOOT PER UNIT REQUIREMENT. WE HAVE LIMITED OURSELVES THAT WE, YOU KNOW, THE BIG HOT BUTTON ISSUE. THE LAST TIME AROUND WAS THE APARTMENT BUILDING AND I KNOW THAT WAS REALLY THE LIGHTNING ROD FOR A LOT OF COMMENTS. UM YOUR STRATEGIC PLAN, YOU KNOW, TAKEN LITERALLY BY OUR COUNT WOULD

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UH WE DID REMOVE THE BUILDING ALONG 605. THEY HAD A LARGE MASS SCENE AND AGREED TO DIFFERENT HEIGHT LIMITATIONS THAT ARE DIRECTLY IN LINE WITH THE STRATEGIC PLAN. WE'RE MEETING THE PARKS AND OPEN SPACE REQUIRED. EVENTS IN THE CENTRAL CIVIC GREEN SPACE. REQUIREMENT.

APARTMENT BUILDING WAS ELIMINATED AS I MENTIONED AND LARGELY REPLACED WITH TOWN HOMES HERE ON THE SOUTHWEST OF THE INTERSECTION OF CENTRAL COLLEGE AND 605. YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU SEE ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE THERE . WHAT I CALL THE MISSING TOOTH WITH THOSE PARCELS. THEY'RE THEY'RE NOT INCLUDED IN OUR PLANS YOU CAN SEE ON THE RIGHT AND THEN WE DID DO SOME OTHER THINGS, SUCH AS MAKING SURE WE HEARD LOUDLY AND CLEARLY WE DIDN'T WANT MORE TACO BELL SORTS OF USE IS COMING THIS WAY IN THE NEW ALBANY AND CONTINUING WHAT'S IN COLUMBUS ON THE WEST, SO WE HAVE PLACED SOME LIMITATIONS ON WHAT CAN HAVE A DRIVE THROUGH LIMITED AT THE BANKS, COFFEE SHOPS, PHARMACIES AND THEN MOBILE MOBILE PICKUPS SUCH AS ORDERING UP CHIPOTLE AND PICKING IT UP. YOU KNOW, AFTER YOU'VE ORDERED IT FROM OFF SITE SO THAT WILL ELIMINATE ANY POSSIBILITY OF A TRADITIONAL FAST FOOD RESTAURANT. SO HERE'S WHAT WE'VE HEARD. UH WHAT A DISCUSSION TONIGHT. YET SCHOOL IMPACT IS A CONSIDERATION. TRAFFIC WHAT I'VE SEEN IN A CHOIR THAT'S GOING AROUND CALLED CRIME CREEP AND THE RESIDENTIAL PRODUCT ALLEGEDLY NOT MEDIUM COMMUNITY STANDARDS, SO I THINK I WAS LISTENING WITH GREAT INTEREST HERE AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING. AND I ASK YOU WHAT'S MORE REASONABLE RELY ON WHEN EVALUATING THESE ISSUES, OBJECTIVE DATA AND PROFESSIONAL CONCLUSIONS OR UNSUPPORTED OPINIONS THAT ARE LARGELY CONJECTURE. I HAVE TRIED HERE AND IN THE REST OF THIS PRESENTATION, I'M GOING TO TRY TO GIVE YOU OBJECTIVE DATA TO BACK UP WHAT WE'RE TELLING YOU IN TERMS OF WHAT WE BELIEVE THIS WILL PRODUCE ON THESE FRONTS. SO SCHOOL IMPACT IS THE FIRST THING. UM OUR ASSUMPTIONS THAT WE MADE BY USING THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS CONSULTANT OR ON THE RIGHT. UM ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE ARE THE NUMBERS THAT THE CITY STAFF MENTIONED IN TERMS OF YIELDS PER UNIT FOR SIMILARLY, UH, DEVELOPED AND EXISTING PRODUCT AND, UM, WELL, I CAN SEE A LITTLE BIT OF DIFFERENCE. I MEAN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TENTS OR HUNDREDS OF A OF A DIGIT HERE . UM YOU KNOW, WE CAME OUT TO THE SAME CONCLUSION AT THE END, WHICH IS, UM WITH OUR PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

THE YIELD B 28 STUDENTS WILL IT BE 28 STUDENTS? EXACTLY I DON'T KNOW, BUT I THINK THAT IT'S DEFINITELY WITHIN THE REALM OF REASON. UM THE SAME NUMBERS APPLIED BY USING REAL WORLD DATA GOT US TO THE SAME RESULT. YEAH AND THE CURRENT ZONING OF THE PROPERTY IS R ONE, WHICH ALLOWS A 40,000 SQUARE FOOT MINIMUM LOT AREA, WHICH WOULD BE 35 SINGLE FAMILY UNITS UNDER THE CURRENT ZONING ON THIS SITE, AS YOU CAN SEE, THAT WOULD BE 29 STUDENTS WITH THAT MANY SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ON THE SITE USING THE REAL WORLD DATA FROM NEW ALBANY. UM SO, UM, THAT'S THAT'S BASICALLY IT. WE'RE KIND OF NEUTRAL ON ALL FRONTS. THEIR PLAN WERE TO CHANGE SLIGHTLY BASED ON THE RIGHTS AND THE TEXT. CERTAINLY WE COULD GET TO A FEW MORE STUDENTS. BUT WE BELIEVE THAT THIS IS THIS IS AN ACCURATE REPRESENTATION OF WHAT CAN BE EXPECTED. UM HERE AGAIN HIRED, UH, ALBANY PLAYING LOCAL SCHOOL DISTRICTS. CONSULTANT UH, FROM A STUDENT GENERATION STANDPOINT, IT'S NET NEUTRAL WHEN I COME BACK NEXT TIME WHEN JUSTIN AND I DO, I DIDN'T QUITE GET IT DONE TODAY, BUT YOU KNOW, IT SEEMED PRETTY SOFT EVIDENT THAT A FINANCIAL ANALYSIS HERE WOULD YIELD SOME PRETTY POSITIVE AND BIG NUMBERS FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. MY BACK OF THE NAPKIN TODAY. UM SO I EXPECTED TO BE IN THIS RANGE WOULD BE THAT AFTER YOU PAY FOR THE STUDENTS AT THIS PROJECT PRODUCES THERE BE A $1.7 MILLION ANNUAL SURPLUS TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. UH BY MY MATH THAT'S ABOUT 179 STUDENTS THAT COULD BE EDUCATED, EDUCATED ELSEWHERE IN THE COMMUNITY WITH THAT SORT OF MONEY. KEEP IN MIND THAT THE HOMES THAT ARE THERE TODAY. UH YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT PRODUCING A LOT OF REVENUE AND IF YOU WANT TO APPLY THE 0.832 STUDENTS PER UNIT AS IT IS, UM I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY STUDENTS WERE ACTUALLY THERE, BUT THERE WOULD BE A IT'S CLEARLY A FINANCIAL LOSER FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT TODAY WITH THE EXISTING CONDITIONS. SO THE ONLY COUNTER

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PROBABLY YOU NEED TO BE IN THAT 700,000 PLUS RANGE, AND I MEAN IT COULD BE IT COULD BE 100,000 . WE'RE JUST KIND OF GIVING YOU THE LOW END OF WHERE WE EXPECTED . THANK YOU. THIS FORWARD ON THE TOPIC, THE MONTHLY RENT ON THE FLATS. NOT FULLY WORKED OUT, BUT OVER 2000. ONE BEDROOMS, TWO BEDROOMS COMBO ANTICIPATED THE FLATS WERE EXPECTING AT LEAST HALF OF THOSE TO BE FOR SALE CONDOMINIUMS, SO THE CONDOMINIUMS WERE EXPECTING NOT LARGE AS WELL UNDER 1500 RANGE, THE APARTMENTS. AH WE'RE GUESSING SOMEWHERE IN THE 900 TO 1100 SQUARE FOOT RANGE. AND THAT'S PROBABLY A ONE AND TWO BEDROOM. SO THE COMMUNITY COMMUNITY STANDARD I A I WANTED TO SHOW THE ENCLAVE IN THE LINKS , AND I WANTED TO THE REASON I'M SHOWING THOSE IN COMPARISON TO OURS IS WHEN I KNOW CERTAINLY WHEN THE LINKS WAS DONE THAT THERE WERE NO D G R S AT THE TIME. I CAN'T REMEMBER WHEN THE ENCLAVE WAS DONE. NONETHELESS, UM YOU KNOW WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING HERE IS, UM, YOU KNOW, IN LINE WITH THE D GR, SO JUST BY DEFINITION, WE'RE GOING TO PROBABLY PROVIDED AN ARCHITECTURE THAT'S TO A HIGHER , DETAILED AND STANDARD THAN SOME OF THE OTHER COMMUNITIES AROUND US. AND, UM, I HAPPEN TO BE A PROPONENT OF VINYL AND HARDY PLANK AND ALL OF THAT. I THINK THEY LOOK GOOD. UM SO THIS WASN'T MEANT TO POINT OUT THAT THOSE ARE SOMEHOW INFERIOR. THEY'RE NOT. IT'S JUST THAT THE D GRS THEMSELVES ARE GOING TO DICTATE AND DRIVE DESIGN HERE IN A WAY THAT THEY COULDN'T BECAUSE I DIDN'T EXIST WHEN THOSE COMMUNITIES CAME FORTH, AND FRANKLY, THOSE DR PRICE PRICING , TOO, IN THAT IT'S HARD TO BUILD A HOME FOR MUCH LESS. UH THEN WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING. SO UN BACK TO THE TRAFFIC BECAUSE I MISSED IT. BUT YOU WANNA MAYBE HAND OUT THIS UH, WE KNEW FROM THE LAST MEETING THAT THERE WAS SOME QUESTION ABOUT WHEN THESE TRAFFIC COUNTS WERE UNDERTAKEN ABOUT WHETHER IT WAS TACKED ONTO A LONG WEEKEND. I THINK IT MAY HAVE BEEN THE SECOND DAY OF RUSSIA. SHANA I HEARD, UM AND SO I DON'T REALLY CAN'T GO BACK AND RE CREATE. UM YOU KNOW WHAT WAS HAPPENING ON A PARTICULAR DAY, BUT WHAT WE DID DO TODAY WE CONTACTED THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. AND UH, YOU KNOW, WELL, THIS ISN'T INDICATIVE OF WHEN PEOPLE ARE WORKING OR NOT. CERTAINLY IT TELLS YOU WHO WAS AT SCHOOL AND WHEN, BUT ON SEPTEMBER 27TH THE DATE THAT WE TOOK. THE COUNTS ARE ACTUALLY 11 LESS ABSENCES THAT DAY ACROSS THE ENTIRE SCHOOL DISTRICT ON SEPTEMBER 19TH, WHICH WOULD HAVE BEEN THE MONDAY OF THE WEEK BEFORE WHICH TO MY KNOWLEDGE DIDN'T HAVE ANY HOLIDAY TACKED ONTO IT OR ANYTHING. AND SO THE POINT THERE BEING I DON'T THINK 11 STUDENTS MAKES A DIFFERENCE ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. BUT UH, THE ATTENDANCE AT SCHOOL WAS VERY SIMILAR ON THOSE TWO DAYS AND THAT WAS A THE OTHER. THE OTHER DAY WE PICKED WAS A DAY WHERE THERE WASN'T ANYTHING SORT OF ABNORMAL GOING ON. SO WITH THAT, I URGE YOU TO, UM UH, YOU KNOW IF YOU'RE CONSIDERING THIS TO RECOGNIZE THE GOOD FAITH EFFORTS HAVE BEEN MADE BY STEINER TO MEET EVERY ONE OF THE CRITERIA YOU PUT FORTH, MEET THE CODE REQUIREMENTS AND TO REALLY LOOK TO OBJECTIVE DATA, WHICH I THINK WE'VE GONE TO GREAT LENGTHS TO REALLY SHARPEN OUR PENCILS ON AND CONSIDER THAT, UM, AS YOU MAKE YOUR DECISION. THANK YOU FOR LISTENING. THANK YOU. WELL, WE HAVE ACCESS TO SOME OF THIS.

INFORMATION THAT WE'VE ASKED ABOUT LIKE THE AVERAGE SQUARE FOOTAGE IS OUR PRICE POINTS OR ANY OF THAT. IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE CAN GO BACK TO LOOK AT? THAT SHOULD BE WILLING TO SHARE WITH US BELIEVE THE THIS POWERPOINT I BELIEVE PROVIDES A LITTLE BIT INFORMATION ON THE UNITS AND I THOUGHT THE PRICE POINT, BUT WE CAN SUMMARIZE BETTER. YOU KNOW, AT THIS POINT, IT'S STILL KIND OF, YOU KNOW, WE'RE STILL UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S NOT CAN PROVIDE A RATE THAT IT JUST THE BALLPARK JUST TO REMEMBER IT LATER WOULD BE HELPFUL. YES, THAT WE CAN UPDATE THIS PRESENTATION. I WAS SUBMITTED TO PROVIDE SOME IMAGERY AND JUST A LITTLE BIT OF INFORMATION ABOUT LIVING AND JUST, YOU KNOW, REACTING TO THE QUIZZICAL LOOKS ON FROM THE AUDIENCE MEMBERS FACES DURING THE ZONING PROCESS. THERE MAY NOT BE CRYSTAL CLEAR CLARITY ONE

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HEY, JUSTIN. OTHERS I GUESS I'LL GO AHEAD SITTING RIGHT HERE. SO MY QUESTIONS ARE KIND OF IN ORDER OF THE TEXT THAT WE RECEIVED THIS KIND OF GO THROUGH THEM AND THEN ONE THROUGH FIVE IN THE SUB AREA. I DON'T HAVE TO DO ALL OF THEM. IF ANYONE HAS A QUESTION THEY WANT TO ADD. I'M JUST JUMP IN. UM, THE FIRST QUESTION I HAD WAS UNDER GENERAL APPLICABLE STANDARDS. ON PAGE TWO. SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A MINIMUM OF 25% OF OPEN SPACE. AND IN THAT YOU TALK ABOUT A CENTRAL POINT FOR RECREATION, SOCIAL GATHERINGS AND ACTIVITIES. AND I KNOW ON PAGE 19 YOU LIST SOME OF EXAMPLES OF WHAT THAT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE SO RECREATION. RECREATIONAL USES ATHLETIC FIELDS, COURTS, PLAYGROUNDS. UM. THE LIGHTING, WHICH IS ALREADY MENTIONED WILL TURN OFF BY 10. PM UM, OUTDOOR ENTERTAINMENT MARKETS, ETCETERA. IS SO I GUESS IT'S A QUESTION FOR STAFF, AND IT WILL ALSO BE A QUESTION FOR YOU. KNOWING THAT WE'RE SITTING THERE IN A FLOODPLAIN. THAT WE HAVE. AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE YOU KNOW, IT'S A STREAM CORRIDOR. CAN WE BUILD THOSE THINGS IN THERE? AND IF SO, ARE YOU PLANNING ON BUILDING THOSE DIFFERENT ACTIVITY TYPE THINGS IN THERE TO MAKE IT A WORKABLE, USABLE GREEN SPACE? SO I GUESS THAT'S THE TWO PART QUESTION. SO THE CITY CODE HAS TWO LAYERS OF STREAM CORRIDOR PROTECTIONS IN PLACE. SO ONE IS I WRITE PERIOD CORRIDORS THAT REQUIRES 100 FT. PRESERVATION TOTAL ALONG STREAMS, AND WE ALSO HAVE OUR FLOODPLAIN ORDINANCE SO DEVELOPMENT CANNOT OCCUR WITHIN THE 100 YEAR FLOOD PLAIN AND THEN THE APPLICANT HAS ALSO ADDED ON AN ADDITIONAL STREAM CORRIDOR PROTECTION ZONE. SO THEY HAVE ADDED ON ADDITIONAL RESTRICTIONS, IN ADDITION TO WHAT CITY CODES STANDARDS INCLUDE. THERE ARE PROVISIONS IN PLACE IN OUR CITY CODE, AND ESSENTIALLY, IT WOULD BE A VARIANCE REQUEST FOR THEM TO CONSTRUCT WITHIN THAT RIGHT PERIOD CORRIDOR OR THE 100 YEAR FLOOD PLAINS SO THOSE CHAPTERS OF CODE CONTAIN IT WOULD BE A WAIVER REQUEST OR OTHER TYPE OF DEVIATION PROCESS IN ORDER TO ALLOW CONSTRUCTION TO OCCUR WITHIN THOSE AREAS. AND THOSE WOULD BE EVALUATED BY THE CITY'S PLANNING COMMISSION. I BELIEVE OUT OF FUTURE DATE AND TIME.

MADAM CAN YOU POP UP THE MAP? JENNIFER OR SOMEBODY THAT. YEAH WE CAN JUST USE THAT BECAUSE I KNOW THE SUB AREAS THERE. ALL RIGHT. SO WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BASICALLY SUB AREA FOR A IN FOUR B. UM WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE YELLOW DOTTED LINE THERE I BELIEVE THAT'S OUR 100 YEAR.

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SOME EXPLORING MHM. CAN YOU JUST I KNOW YOU HAVE MORE QUESTIONS. BUT CAN I POP ON THE PARKLAND PART CAN YOU TALK ABOUT YOU KNOW, I KNOW THIS IS EXCEPTIONAL , BUT I'M BIG ON PLAYGROUNDS.

BIGON PLAY SPACES. CAN YOU TALK TO ME ABOUT SOME OF YOUR DESIRES FOR THAT SPACE AND MAYBE GIVE ME AN UNDERSTANDING OF HOW THAT WOULD RELATE IN SIZE TO SOME SPACES THAT WE MIGHT KNOW. THE CENTRAL GREEN OR THE RAIN, CENTRAL GREEN KIND OF WORKING MODEL EASTERN, OKAY, SECTION THAT WE RECENTLY EXPANDED WITH THE SWINGS THAT SIDE SO IT'S DEFINITELY MUCH MORE COMPACT.

IT'S NOT THE EASTERN. IT'S NOT THE TOWN SQUARE. IT IS A MORE COMPACT AND ENVIRONMENT LIKE OKAY. OKAY. SO OTHER, UM. SO IS THAT THAT FEEL LIKE THE SPRINGS LIKE BRINGING PEOPLE TOGETHER? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE ENVISIONING THE INTENTION AND THEN WE'LL NEED TO REFINE. WHAT DOES IT GO THROUGH MORE DETAILED ANALYSIS OF STORMWATER MANAGEMENT? UH AND THAT'S SORT OF THE TERMINUS OF THAT RUNS THAT MAY BE MODIFIED, WHERE SOME OF THAT ENERGY ALSO COMES ACROSS THAT ROAD TO THE SOUTHWEST, AND THERE MAY BE SOME MORE ACTIVITY THERE AS WELL. IS IT? IS IT POSSIBLE TO MAKE THAT SPACE ANY BIGGER THAN IT IS RIGHT NOW, OR BECAUSE IT SEEMS TO ME TO BE SMALLER THAN IT WAS IN THE AH! AND YOU KNOW, THE PARKLAND SEEMS TO BE SMALLER THAN I'VE SEEN IT IN PREVIOUS THE CENTRAL GREEN OR CENTRAL. I GUESS SO THERE, THAT'S THE THAT'S THE ANSWER TO MY QUESTION RIGHT THAT THIS AT THE PARK SPACE HAS BEEN DISPERSE MORE. YES I WOULD SAY IF YOU GO

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THAT'S SAYS AND I KNOW WE DO. I JUST DON'T KNOW IT, UM, COMMERCIAL OFFICE. SPACE SQUARE FOOTAGE SHOULD BE. HOW MANY WHAT IS THAT NUMBER SHOULD BE HOW MANY PARKING SPACES SO AS AN EXAMPLE WE HAVE 20,200. SQUARE FOOT OF OFFICE OR COMMERCIAL SPACE HERE. WHAT DOES THAT EQUATE INTO? UM PARKING. SORRY IF I CATCH THE NORMAL I BELIEVE CITY PARKING CODE STANDARD AS ONE PARKING SPACE FOR 200 FT OF OFFICE SPACE ARE CODE ARE PARKING CODE DOES PROVIDE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES OF COMMERCIAL USES AS WELL. UM BUT IT'S 200 SQUARE FEET PER PARKING SPACE FOR JUST TYPICAL GENERAL OFFICE USES. OKAY? WHETHER IT'S A RESTAURANT. OR OR DOWN THAT

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THE FLATS WITH A FEW EXCEPTIONS, THE DRIVEWAYS TO SPACES IN THE GARAGE AND THEN IN CERTAIN SPOTS , THERE'S ADDITIONAL OVERFLOW. UH, VISITOR PARKING, OKAY. SO YOU HAVE 100 AND 96 PARKING SPOTS AND SUB AREA ONE THAT'S GOING TO SERVICE OVER 22,000 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL SPACE.

PLUS OVERFLOW ON THE RESIDENTIAL UNITS IN ANY PARK. UM IS THIS HOW I FIGURED IT OUT. SO. I'M GONNA GO BACK AND SEE IF THAT 200 NUMBER FITS IN WITH ALL OF US TO SEE IF WE HAVE ENOUGH AND KEEP IN MIND TOO. I THINK SOME OF THESE THINGS, AND I THINK THE MAKING SURE THAT THE TEXT IS CORRECT WITH RESPECT TO THE REQUIREMENTS IS IMPORTANT, BUT SOME OF THESE THINGS TO GET FLUSHED OUT IN THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN BECAUSE SOME SPECIFICS I THINK ARE GOING TO BE BETTER UNDERSTOOD. YEAH. THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO MEET THAT REQUIREMENT. AREN'T THEY WERE NOT GOING TO LET THIS GO THROUGH WITHOUT YEAH, I BELIEVE IT'S FOR IT'S A REQUIREMENT IN THE TEXT.

WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT. THIRD PARTY REVIEW OF TRAFFIC MODEL AND REALLY AGAIN TRAFFIC RESULTS AND AGAIN THE TRAFFIC MODEL. WHAT IT'S UM TYPICALLY, WHEN WE'VE HAD THEM, THEY REALLY DIAL IN AGAIN TO THAT SHARED USE FACTORS AGAIN BECAUSE THE OFFICE OFFSETS THE RESTAURANTS. LET ME SKIP OVER THE SUB AREA THREE. SINGLE FAMILY HOMES IN TOWN HOMES UP THERE. SO THE ENTRANCE WAY THAT YOU HAVE IN GOING TO ASSUME THAT IS DEDICATED PUBLIC. THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY AND I THINK

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YEAH THAT'S CORRECT. THAT WOULD BE PUBLIC. OKAY? THE REASON FOR MY QUESTION. IS A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T LIKE TO DRIVE ON PRIVATE. ROADS AND I CAN SEE PEOPLE TURNING IN THERE AND THEN HAPPEN TO MAKE A U TURN TO COME BACK OUT. IF WE HAVE PRIVATE ROADS IN THERE, IS THERE GOING TO BE ENOUGH. AREA THERE TO BE ABLE TO GET OUT IF THEY SOMEONE GOES IN THERE AND DOESN'T WANT TO DRIVE ON PRIVATE ROADS. THEY SHOULD ALL RIGHT AND AGAIN. THEY ARE PUBLIC ROADS, AND I THINK EVEN THE DIMENSIONS ARE EXPELLED OUT IN THAT TEXT. YEAH. SO WHAT IS PRIVATE UP IN THAT SUB AREA THREE. IS IT JUST THE BACK ALLEY THAT HAS THAT EMERGENCY ACCESS IS THAT JUST THE ONLY PRIVATE PARTS OR I SAID, ALSO INSIDE THE TOWN HOME IN SINGLE FAMILY HOMES , SO I THINK WE DO HAVE AND I APOLOGIZE IF I JUMPED INTO JUMPED IN TOO FAR, BUT I THINK THERE IS SOME WIGGLE ROOM IN THE TEXT FOR THAT TO BE KIND OF FINALIZED THE TIME OF FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLANNER FINAL PLATT.

BUT I THINK FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE AND OUR CONVERSATION WITH THE APPLICANT IS THAT, UH, THERE MAY BE A NEED FOR PRIVATE DRIVES LIKE WE'RE SOMETHING WE'RE NALLEY MEETS A PARKING LOT LIKE A PRIVATE PARKING LOT PARKING LOT, DR ISLES. THAT MAY BE APPROPRIATE TO BE PRIVATE, BUT REALLY ANYTHING BEYOND THAT OUR INTENT IS TO KIND OF PUBLIC. AND STAFF IS GOOD WITH THE PRIVATE NEXT TO THE PUBLIC. IF IT'S THE LIMITED CONDITIONS LIKE THE CONNECTIONS INSIDE THE PRIVATE PARKING LOT, YES, OKAY. AND YOU GUYS ARE ALSO GOOD THAT IF AN ALLEY THAT RUNS IN THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING HAS A MINIMUM OF 20 FT OF RIGHT AWAY. DO WE HAVE ENOUGH RIGHT AWAY WITH 20 FT.

AND IF IT'S BEHIND, IT'S A MINIMUM OF 14 FT. ARE WE GOOD WITH THAT? RIGHT? YEAH. OKAY? HURRY SPEAKING OF ALI'S. HE SAID THAT AND I DIDN'T READ THIS IN HERE. IT'S PROBABLY HERE AND I MISSED IT. GARAGES CAN BE LARGER THAN NINE. FT IF THEY BACK UP TO AN ALLEY. QUESTION. GRADUATE SORRY, GRANDMA GARAGES SITTING HERE LOOKING AT GARAGES, AND I SAID THAT LARGER THAN NINE FT ON AN ALLEY. UM IS THAT OUR ONLY ALLEY THAT WE HAVE BASICALLY THAN ON THIS PLAN, SO IT'S JUST THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, THE ONES THAT COULD HAVE A LARGER THAN A NINE FT GARAGE THAT WOULD INCLUDE THE AREA 23 AND. FIVE THERE ARE OTHER ALLEYS INTO AND FIVE PRETTY MUCH ANYWHERE THAT I SEE FIVE ANYWHERE THERE. SO EVEN IN TWO. THAT TO THE RIGHT OF THE NORTH SOUTH GOES WRONG PUBLIC ALLEYS AS WELL. YOU SAID IT TO YOU TALKING RIGHT HERE? YES THAT'S PRIVATE. THAT'S A PRIVATE PUBLIC ALLEY PUBLIC ALLEY. ALRIGHT WELL, SO, BUT IT'S STILL AN ALLEY. SO REGARDLESS OKAY, THAT ANSWERS THAT QUESTION. HMM. OKAY SIBERIA. FIVE RIGHT HERE. UM. I SEE WHAT YOU HAVE PLANNED UP HERE AS FAR AS THE TOWN HOMES. I LOOK AT THAT SPACE I THINK OF WALTON PARKWAY. I THINK OF C B G RIGHT NEXT DOOR. IS THERE. AN APPETITE TO THINK ABOUT POTENTIALLY MAYBE ANOTHER USE IN THAT AREA. MAYBE LIKE MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDING. MAYBE SOMETHING LIKE WE SEE IN SMITH MILLS. I MEAN, I JUST THINK THAT PROPERTY WITH PRETTY PRETTY NEAT TO BE ABLE TO BACK UP TO ALL THAT, UM, MAYBE GET A LITTLE BIT MORE COMMERCIAL OUT OF THERE. AS FAR AS TOWN HOMES. I JUST FEEL LIKE THAT'S I DON'T KNOW. THAT WAS JUST A SUGGESTION. WE DID NOT CONTEMPLATE THAT WE'VE HAD SO MUCH INTEREST IN THE PRESIDENTIAL PEACE THERE. THAT WE'VE WE'VE FOCUSED AND THAT IS THE POINT. IT'S A IT'S A LESSER TRAFFIC USER, SO WE'RE ALSO TRYING TO BE SENSITIVE THERE AS WELL. ALRIGHT. I WAS JUST LOOKING AT THE LOCATION. I WAS LOOKING AT THE NO. HOW BAD AND PUT IT IN OUR NOTES THEIR GENERAL WELFARE OF THE CITY IF THAT MAKES SENSE THERE OR NOT, BUT, UM OKAY, THAT WAS THAT WAS THE QUESTION I HAD IN THAT SECTION, AND IT IS UNDER B ONE.

IT IS USED THAT CAN BE CONSIDERED. SO, UM. AND I THINK YOU CAN GET MAYBE ABOUT 5 9000 SQUARE FOOT MEDICAL SCIENCE BUILDINGS IN THAT AREA, SO YOU CAN THINK ABOUT THAT WOULD BE GREAT. I WON'T GO INTO THEM. BUT IF YOU CAN LOOK AT ALL YOUR OFF STREET PARKING AREAS. A LOT OF TIMES THEY JUST LABEL SUB FOR SO IF WE COULD THAT WOULD BE GOOD. UH, OKAY. I THINK THIS MIGHT BE ONE OF MY LAST ONES UNDER SWIMMING POOLS AND SPAS. AND MY TIME ON B, C A. I THOUGHT I

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SO IT SAYS THAT THE SPAS THERE'S NO POOLS, SO WE GOT THAT THAT'S COOL. BUT IT SAYS THE SPAS SHALL BE FLUSH WITH THE TOP OF THE SURROUNDING PAVING. I READ THAT IS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE AN INDOOR IN GROUND SPA. IN MOST PARTS ARE ABOVE GROUND. UMO WE DO AND IN GROUND OR A PAVING THAT IS SPA THAT IS FLUSHED WITH SURROUNDING PAVING. YOU KNOW, I WAS A CARRYOVER FROM MANY ATTACKS USED, SO I DON'T EVEN KNOW THE GENESIS OF IT. IF I MEAN, OKAY. WE'D LIKE THE SAME RIGHT AS SOMEONE IN THE COUNTRY CLUB WOULD HAVE, I GUESS TO, UM AND SO IF THAT'S LIMITING THAT BEYOND THAT WE WOULD ADJUST IT. IT WAS BECAUSE I THINK IF THEY HAD COOL YOU KNOW THEY MAY DO BOTH IN THERE WOULD BE FLUSH. BUT SINCE WE CAN'T HAVE POOLS THERE, I COULD SEE A VARIANCE FROM ONE OF THOSE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES COMING TO BE A AND ASK HIM FOR A VARIANCE FOR AND ABOVE. SO THE JUMP IN HERE THE WE DID DISCUSS THIS AND THE WAY THAT WE WROTE THE WAY THAT IT WAS WRITTEN INTO THE SETTING TAXES THAT IT CAN BE FLUSH WITH THE GROUND OR DECKING SO LIKE THAT COULD BE BUILT AROUND IT. SO THE DECKING THEN THAT'S CORRECT, SO THEY WOULDN'T NEED THAT THAT WAIVER OR THE VARIANTS THAT YOU'VE THAT YOU'RE DISCUSSING IT. AND SO I'M ALSO THINKING.

THIS IS THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. I'M ASSUMING THEY'RE GONNA HAVE A FIRST FLOOR. SECOND FLOOR.

TYPICALLY ASSUMING THAT BACK DOOR OF THE FIRST FLOOR IS GOING TO BE FLUSHED WITH GRADE. WELL, WHAT WE BUILD A DECK THAT IS A COUPLE OF FEET HIGH AND THEN HAVE TO BURY MOST OF THE SPICE I'M TRYING TO WORK THROUGH WITH THAT LOOKS LIKE EVEN IF THEY HAD A DECK, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BUILD A DECK IS TWO STORIES HIGH OFF THEIR SECOND STORY. YEAH YOU KNOW THE CONDITION COULD EXIST.

IT'S AN EXISTING IN OTHER LOCATIONS IN NEW ALBANY. AS FAR AS LIKE GRADING GOES, THE FINAL GRADING IS SOMETHING WE WOULD LOOK AT AS PART OF THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN. TO KNOW IF THAT'S CONDITION COULD EXIST OR NOT, OKAY? BRINGING THAT ONE UP NOW. UM I THINK THAT'S REALLY ALL I HAVE FROM THE TEXT AT LEAST JUST QUESTIONS, SO THANK YOU APPRECIATE IT. OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL. UM I GUESS ONE OF MINE WAS SO VERY FIVE. JUST THE AND I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS. THE AMBIGUITY OF I THINK IT'S TWO VERY DIFFERENT USES THE SENIOR USE AND WHAT'S DRAWN IN THE RENDERING HERE. IS THERE ANY WAY TO MAKE THE DISTINCTION NOW AS TO WHAT USE IS GOING TO BE ALLOWING SOME VERY FIVE ON THIS TEXT? IT'S UNLIKELY IT'LL BE SENIOR LIVING. UH A YEAR AGO. THAT'S WHERE THE APPETITE WAS, AND WE WERE READY TO GO. UM, COMING OUT OF THAT PROCESS, THE PROSPECTS BASICALLY KIND OF THEY GOT COLD. SO UM, IT'S NOT A PRIMARY INTEREST RIGHT NOW THAT WE'RE GETTING FROM THE OUTSIDE USERS. WE ARE GETTING SIGNIFICANT INTEREST FOR THE RESIDENTIAL. WOULD YOU BE COMFORTABLE COMMITTING TO THAT? AH! I WOULD BE COMFORTABLE. JUST JUST TAKE A SENIOR AT THE TABLE HERE. IF YOU WANT IT JUST FOR CLARITY. I MEAN, KIND OF DRILLED DOWN EVERY OTHER SUB AREA. THAT ONE IS JUST KIND OF LOVE TO STAY STILL SEE IF WE CAN EXPLORE SOME SORT OF AN OFFICE. YES OR SOMETHING. AND LIKE LOOK. MATT WAS TALKING ABOUT SO THAT LET'S LET'S WHAT'S WHAT'S THE DOWNSIDE TO LETTING THEM HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THAT RIGHT THERE. SO ONE OPTION AND STARTED JUMP IN IS I KNOW THAT TEXT. CHRIS, TELL ME IF I'M WRONG HERE DOES CONTEMPLATE OTHER TYPE OF OFFICE USES AND SO VERY A FIVE IS A CONDITIONAL USE , SO IT'S NOT PERMITTED USE BY RIGHTS. CONDITIONAL USE MEANS THEY HAVE TO GO TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION. TO DETERMINE IF ONE OF THOSE ALTERNATIVE USES COULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR THE AREA. THAT'S JUST SOMETHING ELSE TO THROW OUT THERE FOR COUNCILS THOUGHT AND STEVIE RAISED. YOU RAISE A GOOD POINT, AND I THINK WE DID IT THAT WAY, BECAUSE WE DID THINK THE TRAFFIC IMPACT COULD BE DIFFERENT. UM AND SO THAT WAY WAS A PART OF CONDITIONAL USED TO TRAFFIC COULD BE STUDIED, LIKE YOU ALL WOULDN'T SEE IT, OF COURSE. BUT PLANNING COMMISSION WOULD ARE YOU LEANING ANYWAY? TOWN HOMES. SINGLE FAMILY IS THAT THANK YOU.

I WOULD SAY RIGHT NOW WE'RE LEANING TOWARDS A IT'S GONNA SOUND ODD BUT A HYBRID. WE HAVE

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[11. RESOLUTIONS AND PUBLIC HEARING]

OBVIOUSLY A LOT OF FOLKS HERE WERE INTERESTED IN HEARING THE PRESENTATION AND COUNSEL'S QUESTIONS REGARDING RATING OF ORDINANCE. SO 40 AS WE MOVE INTO THE REST OF THE AGENDA, FOLKS WANT TO GO HOME AND TUCK IN THEIR LITTLE ONES. GREAT TIMING. GO AHEAD AND HEAD OUT. NO, NO OFFENSE TAKEN. DID YOU SAY AND DID I MISS THE STUDYING, ACCORDING FOR SECOND READING ON DECEMBER 6TH THANK YOU. OKAY, IF YOU SAID IT MANIFESTED. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SO IT IS. I DIDN'T OKAY ORDINANCE OVER 40 FOR SECOND READING ON DECEMBER, 6TH YOU QUESTION THANK YOU. ALEX LOWRY 737 17 FARM ROAD. TWO QUESTIONS, PUBLIC PARLIAMENT THINGS. 15 WHAT SHOULD WE STAY? AND IF WE'RE AGAINST THE ZONING , SHOULD WE STAY BECAUSE THEN IS THAT WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE OLD? I'M SORRY. WHAT WHAT TUNE ON. MY PRONUNCIATION AGUINIS E. O. L L FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS. JUST THE GENERAL ONE AT THE END OF THE GENERAL THE END OF THE AGENDA. THANK YOU, SIR. I'M NOT WITH YOU. UM GENERALLY WE JUST IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT SOMEONE SHOWED UP LATE, OR THEY MISSED THE CHANCE TO GIVE COMMENT, THAT'S TOWARDS THE END OF THE AGENDA JUST TO SAY, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE SOMEONE WOULD LIKE TO ADD? UM YOU'RE WELCOME TO STAY, I SUPPOSE, AND PROVIDE COMMENT AS IT RELATES TO ANY ISSUE THAT WE DISCUSSED TONIGHT. THAT WOULD BE THE APPROPRIATE TIME TO DO SO IN SECOND, THE NEXT MEETING THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WILL WE HAVE TO GET A VERY FOR THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THIS ROOM? BECAUSE THE FIRE WORD AND SOMEBODY SAYS 62 PEOPLE, SO WE WERE ALREADY PASSED THE ORDINANCE TODAY. WE'RE PAST THE ORGANS. LAST TIME I EXPECT THE NEXT ONE. THERE WILL BE 100 PEOPLE, THAT'S THAT'S 40% OVER THE ORGANS. WE MAY HAVE TO BE LOGISTICALLY CHALLENGING HOW WE GET PEOPLE IN AND OUT. SO IF YOU HAVE A SPEAKER CARD AND HAVE ALREADY PROVIDED YOUR COMMENT, WE MAY ASK YOU TO ALLOW. YOU KNOW SOMEONE ELSE IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD TO WALK IN TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK.

OKAY WE CAN ENLARGE THE SIZE OF THE ROOM. I MEAN, WE? WE HAVE SET UP TV OUT IN THE LOBBY AS WELL. I JUST WASN'T SURE IF YOU'RE AWARE THAT WE WERE PAST THAT WERE AGAINST FIRE WARRIORS . THANK YOU AND PLEASE, JUST NO SMOKING DURING THE MEETING. YEAH THIS IS A NON SMOKING ROOM. UM THANKS FOR THOSE LOGISTICAL QUESTIONS WILL NOW MOVE ON TO RESOLUTIONS AND PUBLIC HEARING RESOLUTION ARE 37 2020 TO A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZED CITY MANAGER EXECUTE A LEASE AGREEMENT FOR OFFICE SPACE AT 8000 PARKWAY. THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. AS YOU KNOW, THE CITY IS RENOVATING SPACE AT 8000 PARKWAY IN ORDER, UM FOR THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT TO MOVE INTO THAT SPACE THIS BUT THIS RESOLUTION WILL AUTHORIZE JOE TO EXECUTE A LEASE FOR ABOUT 2300 SQUARE FEET OF OFFICE SPACE. IT'S A FIVE YEAR LEASE AT 8000 WALTON PARKWAY. THERE IS A BASE RENT IN THE LEASE AS WELL AS PROVISIONS FOR CAM. UM, AND THERE'S A TENANT ALLOWANCE OF JUST A LITTLE BIT OVER $46,000. THE SPACE WERE UTILIZED BY THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT AND THE RELOCATION OF THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT OUT OF VILLAGE HALL WILL ALLOW THE MINISTRATIONS FUNCTIONS OF IT. GIS COMMUNITY EVENTS AND COUNCIL SUPPORT TO CONSOLIDATE ON THE SECOND FLOOR OF VILLAGE HALL AND THAT WILL ACCOMMODATE THE EXPANSION OF THE DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT ON THE FIRST FLOOR. 8001 PARKWAY PROVIDES SEVERAL BENEFITS FOR THE CITY. VERSUS SPACES IDEALLY SIZED ACCOMMODATE THE SEVEN EMPLOYEES IN THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT, AND THAT'S NOT EASY TO FIND WITHIN THE LIMITS OF NEW ALBANY AND THEN SECOND, THE SPACE IS ALSO LOCATED ADJACENT TO THE CITY'S INCUBATOR THAT IS ALSO AT 8000. WALTON PARKWAY. THIS PHYSICAL ELECTION, UM TO ANOTHER CITY OPERATION PROVIDES SOME BENEFITS. AND FINALLY, IT'S CLOSE ENOUGH TO VILLAGE HALL THAT WE THINK WE CAN STILL HAVE GOOD ACCESS BETWEEN DEPARTMENTS FOR MEETINGS. UM AND THAT WE

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UM THAT IS THE END OF MY REPORT . BUT I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE ABOUT THE LEAST ITSELF. ALRIGHT ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THE RESOLUTION? AND WE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING OR ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC LIKE TO SPEAK REGARDING RESOLUTION OR 37. OH, YES, SIR. YEP. STEVE SEAGAL WITH 71 90 ASSUMPTION, DR WHO NEGOTIATES THE BUSINESS DEAL FOR THE OFFICE LEASE. ON BEHALF OF THE CITY, AND HOW DO THEY MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE GETTING A MARKET DEAL? COMPARABLE TO WHAT MAKES SENSE. JOE. SO I NEGOTIATED THE DEAL. I WAS LOOKING AT 22 OR THREE DIFFERENT OPTIONS TO BEING IN THE BUSINESS PARK BASED ON WHAT WAS AVAILABLE, AND THE THIRD ONE BEING IN THE VILLAGE CENTER. THERE WAS ONE SPACE AVAILABLE ACROSS THE STREET IN THE MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDING THAT TURNED OUT TO BE TOO SMALL FOR OUR NEEDS. I CHECKED INTO THE SPACE ACROSS THE STREET AT THE MARKET AND MAIN BUILDINGS AT THE TIME THAT WE INVESTIGATED THOSE THEY JUST AT LEAST THE FINAL AVAILABLE SPACE. SO THAT WAS OFF THE MARKET. I ALSO CHECKED WITH DAIMLER ON THE SPACE THAT THEY HAD. IT WASN'T QUITE AS CONDUCIVE BECAUSE OF THE WOULD HAVE BEEN ISOLATED. SO I WENT TO, UH, 8001 PARKWAY, WHERE WE HAVE THE SPACE. UM, IT'S NOT THE AT LEAST EXPENSIVE SPACE IN TOWN . IN FACT, WE HAVE SOME OTHER OFFICE SPACE THAT MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT LESS EXPENSIVE, BUT IT WOULD MEAN VICTIM TENANTS THAT WE HAVE, FOR EXAMPLE, THE WHAT WE REFER TO AS THE GUZZO BUILDING, WHICH IS 39. 39 EAST MAIN UM, THAT THAT DOESN'T HAVE ANY VACANCIES. SO UM, SOUNDS LIKE YOU DID YOUR HOMEWORK, BUT I GUESS IT'S THE IS THE MARKET RATE THAT YOU POLICES IN. DOES THAT PUBLIC INFORMATION OR IS THAT FROM THE PUBLIC. THERE'S NO RUSSIAN OF THE RENTAL RATES OR WHEN YOU'RE SAYING IT WAS ON THE EXPENSIVE SIDE ARE WE LOOKING AT WELL ABOVE MARKET A LITTLE BIT OF A I MEAN, I'M JUST TRYING TO GET A SENSE OF HOW THAT WORKS. IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE NEW ALBANY MARKET. WHEN I SAID IT WAS A LITTLE HIGHER, IT WAS RELATIVELY A LITTLE BIT HIGHER, BASED ON SOME OF THE OTHER SPACES THAT I LOOKED AT. SO, FOR EXAMPLE, THE SPACE ACROSS THE STREET I WAS FORGETTING HOW IT WAS SEVERAL MONTHS AGO WHEN I LOOKED AT IT, BUT WHAT WE DID IS WE JUST STANDARDIZED THE RIGHT AH PER SQUARE FOOT WITH THE CAM INCLUDED. SO BUT IN TERMS OF DEVELOPING SPACE, IT'S CONSISTENT WITHIN THE MARKET RATE. OKAY, THANKS. RIGHT. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS ON ROADS RESOLUTION OR 37? CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING IS VERY MOTION ON THE RESOLUTION. MOVING OPTIONAL RESOLUTION ARE 37 2022 2ND. COUNCIL MEMBER SHOP. YES YES, YES, YES, YES, YES, YES, YES RESOLUTION ARE PRETTY 7 2022. RESOLUTION ARE 38 2022 OF RESOLUTION TO AMEND THE OUTGROWTH, TOO COMMUNITY REINVESTMENT AREA TO ADD APPROXIMATELY 527.31 PLUS OR MINUS ACRES OF THAT AREA, CONFIRMING THE DESIGNATION OF A HOUSING OFFICER AND THE CREATION OF COMMUNITY REINVESTMENT AREA, HOUSING COUNCIL AND TAX INCENTIVE REVIEW COUNCILS TO EXPAND THE OAK GROVE TO ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY ZONE TO ADD THAT AREA. THANK YOU, MARY SPAULDING . THIS RESOLUTION AMENDS THE OKKER OF TWO SIERRA AREA TO INCLUDE APPROXIMATELY 527 ACRES, WHICH WERE RECENTLY ADDICTS AND ZONED. THE CONSOLIDATION IS CONSOLIDATED ACREAGE. IS LOCATED GENERALLY SOUTH OF JOHNSTOWN ROAD OR US, 62 DIRECTLY EAST AND WEST OF BEACH ROAD AND THEN GENERALLY NORTH OF JUG STREET IN THE CREATION OF THIS AREA, DOES NOT AUTOMATICALLY ENTITLED PROPERTY OWNER TO ENTER INTO A SIERRA AGREEMENT EACH SCIARRA AGREEMENT GRANTED WILL NEED, UM A BIT WILL BE PRESENTED TO COUNCIL WHEN THEY RECEIVE THEIR AGREEMENT. AND I CAN ANSWER ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS THAT COUNSELING HAPPENED. THANK YOU ANY QUESTIONS ON THE RESOLUTION FROM COUNSELOR? OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC LIKE TO SPEAK REGARDING RESOLUTION ARE 38 2022. THERE IS NO PUBLIC COMMENT WILL CLOSE THE RESOLUTION OR EXCUSE ME CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE A MOTION ON THE RESOLUTION? FOR THE ADOPTION OF RESOLUTION ARE 38 2022 2ND. COUNCIL MEMBER TEST. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER DEREK YES. COUNCIL MEMBER BRISK. YES

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[13. REPORTS OF REPRESENTATIVES]

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THAT'S IT, JOE? ALRIGHT ANY UPDATE FROM THE JOINT PARKS? YES THERE'S AN UPDATE FROM THEM.

CONGRATULATIONS ARE IN ORDER FOR THEM EVERY YEAR, THE OHIO PARK AND RECREATION ASSOCIATION.

AWARDS WINNERS FOR EXCELLENCE. AND THE NEW ALBANY PARK AND RECREATION SUBMITTED IN ONE CATEGORY. ONE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS UP TO A MILLION DOLLARS FOR MIRACLE LEAGUE OF NEW ALBANY. SO IN JANUARY, THEY WILL RECEIVE THAT AWARD THAT ALSO NOW QUALIFIES THEM FOR THE GOVERNOR'S AWARD. SO WE'LL SEE HOW THEY DO THEIR. UM ALSO, YOU KNOW, DELTA AWARDS ARE RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER, AND OF COURSE, THEY HAVE THE OUTSTANDING CITIZEN LINDSEY HARRIS FOR THE MICHAEL LUCY MEMORIAL COURT. SO IT'S GOOD TO SEE THAT SHE'S GETTING SOME RECOGNITION, AND SO IS THE PARKS FOR THAT AS WELL. AND THEN FINALLY THEY DID PASS THEIR THEIR 89, SO THEY ARE VERY HAPPY TO GET GOING ON THEIR FIELD HOUSE AND RECREATION CENTER. SO ALL IN ALL A GOOD WEEK OR TWO FOR JOINT PARKS. THAT'S IT. ALRIGHT UPDATE FROM ALBANY SCHOOLS, NO SCHOOL BOARD MEETING, BUT CONGRATULATIONS ARE IN ORDER FOR THE SCHOOLS AS WELL. THEY'RE LEVY PASSED COMFORTABLY BY 28 POINTS, SO COMMUNITY CAME OUT AND SUPPORTED THE SCHOOLS. FALL SPORTS ARE WRAPPING UP. I KNOW WE TOUCHED BASE. THE GIRLS GOLF TEAM FINISHED THIRD. AND THEN OUR GIRLS TENNIS TEAMS PAGE CORNELIUS AND ACHIEVING ITS FINISHED SECOND IN THE STATE AND DOUBLES. AND THEN THEY CAME BACK THE NEXT DAY IN NEW ALBANY, FINISHED THIRD IN THE OTC, A TEAM EVENT SO IMPRESSIVE FROM OUR GIRLS TENNIS PLAYERS. OUR BOYS SOCCER TEAM WRAPPED UP THEIR SEASON ON SATURDAY. SECOND MISTAKE DONE IT CREW STADIUM.

CAPPED OFF A GOOD RUN FOR THE BOYS. AND THEN THERE STILL IS ONE TEAM PLAYING. AND THE LAST FALL SPORT THE BOYS FOOTBALL TEAM PLAYS ON FRIDAY NIGHT AT HISTORIC CREW STADIUM. AGAINST THIS TEAM FROM JOHANNA THAT MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE A KID THAT WE KNOW ON IT, BUT IT WILL BE A BATTLE. THE HANNAH TOOK IT TO US IN THE REGULAR SEASON, BUT, UH, PRESSURES ON NOW SHOULD BE SHOULD BE A GOOD GAME. AND SO THAT'S FRIDAY NIGHT IN THE REGIONAL FINALS SO WINNER THAT GAME IS IN THE STATE FINAL FOUR. IT IS HISTORIC CREW STADIUM STILL COVERED OR IS THAT NO LONGER BUBBLE UP IN THE WINTERTIME? IT'S DOWN. NOW IT WILL BE. IT'LL BE A LITTLE CHILLY. YES SO GOOD LUCK TO COLTON AND THE EAGLES. ALRIGHT MR KENNY UPDATE FROM THE TOWNSHIP. JUST ONE ITEM THE AT A SPECIAL MEETING, THEY ACCEPTED A LETTER OF RETIREMENT NOTICE FROM CHIEF FIRE. CHIEF JACK. WE'RE UP EFFECTIVE JANUARY. 1ST OBJECTS BEEN IN THE FIRE SERVICE FOR 49 YEARS. 21 OF THOSE WITH THE PLAIN TOWNSHIP FIRE DEPARTMENT. HE ACTUALLY BEGAN WELL EARNED VACATION NOVEMBER EIGHT THROUGH THE END OF THE YEAR. IN CONJUNCTION WITH THAT PAT CONNOR WAS NAMED AS ASSISTANT FIRE CHIEF ACTING FIRE CHIEF FOR PLAYING TOWNSHIP UNTIL JANUARY, 1ST AND THEY ALSO APPROVED HIS APPOINTMENT TO FIRE CHIEF FULL TIME AS OF JANUARY, 2ND. AND IN TERMS OF SOME TYPE OF RETIREMENT RECOGNITION FOR CHEAP RUBBER THAT WILL BE DETERMINED SOMETIME AFTER THE FIRST YEAR. EXPECT VACATION? YEAH. MISS TANNER. ALRIGHT UH, THANK YOU, MR DURCH

[14. REPORTS OF CITY OFFICIALS]

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[15. POLL FOR PUBLIC COMMENT]

OBVIOUSLY THAT'S NOT WHAT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT. OKAY SO I'M NOT GONNA BE HERE FOR THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, SO I GET YOU TO INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND GIVE YOUR ADDRESS FOR SURE. SO I'M DARRYL SNYDER. I LIVE AT 7063 MAYNARD PLACE EAST. WE ARE IN THE LINKS . SO FIRST OF ALL, YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMITMENT TO THE COMMUNITY. ALL OF YOU GUYS. YOU KNOW, YOU ALL DID SUCH A GREAT JOB. UM AND I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO JUST SHARE MY THOUGHTS. UM SO IN THE ENGAGED NEW ALBANY STRATEGIC PLAN. PART OF THAT WAS PULLING THE COMMUNITY. THERE WERE

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HMM. HICCUP TO BE LOST IN ALL THIS BECAUSE THAT'S THE THING THAT HAS SUCKED SO FAR RIGHT? UM AND THEN ALL OF THIS TALK TONIGHT ABOUT WIDENING THE ROADS AND PUTTING INTERNALLY EINS AND MAYBE AROUND ABOUT LIKE MY KIDS AGAIN. WE LIVE IN THE LINKS AND THEY BITE TO MARKET STREET AND THEY BIKE TO SCHOOL. AND IF THIS CONSTRUCTION STARTS ALL THAT GOES AWAY, RIGHT. WE'RE NOT GOING TO FEEL COMFORTABLE LETTING OUR KIDS RIDE THEIR BIKES ANYMORE. AND THAT'S ONE OF THE GREAT THINGS ABOUT THIS COMMUNITY. SO ALL THAT TALK JUST SCARES ME RIGHT? TURNING LANES, EVERYTHING THAT'S JUST OKAY, KIDS, PUT ON YOUR HELMETS AND LET'S CROSS OUR FINGERS, RIGHT? UM IT FEELS LIKE. 28 I UNDERSTAND STEINER'S PERSPECTIVE ABOUT THE DATA VERSUS OUR OPINION, BUT IT DOES FEEL TO ME LIKE WE SHOULD APPLY SOME LEVEL OF COMMON SENSE. 28 JUST SEEMS CRAZY RIGHT WITH THE NUMBER OF UNITS THAT THEY SHOWED US. 28 JUST DOESN'T PASS THE SMELL TEST TO ME. 28 STUDENTS JUST DOESN'T PASS THE SMELL TEST. TRAFFIC ON 605. I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD EVEN DO ANOTHER TRAFFIC STUDY. WE JUST SHOULDN'T DO THE PROJECT LIKE LET'S JUST STOP SPENDING MONEY ON IT. LET'S BE DONE WITH IT. WE DON'T NEED TO BE IN A HURRY TO DO THIS. WE DON'T KNOW THE IMPACT OF THIS INTEL THING. I DON'T KNOW THE RUSH TO DO ANY DEVELOPMENT. UH UM. LET ME SEE WHAT ELSE I HAVE HERE. OH, YOUR TUNNEL IDEA. I LIKE WHERE YOU'RE GOING WITH IT. BUT LET'S NOT DO THE DEVELOPMENT. LET'S NOT HAVE ANY OF THESE ISSUES AND THE COFFEE SHOP SITUATION. THEY TALKED ABOUT THE COFFEE SHOP A LOT. WE DON'T WANT ANOTHER COFFEE SHOP. THAT'S MY DEAL. I DON'T WANT IT. OKAY THANKS. YOU GUYS. CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION FOR SURE. SO WHEN YOUR KIDS RIDE THEIR BIKES, WHAT ROUTE DO THEY TAKE? THEY DON'T GO STRAIGHT UP. REYNOLDSBURG NEW COMPANY PASSED 1 61 DO THEY SO NO. SO THEY YEAH, THEY GO OVER THE BRIDGE, SO THEY TURNED RIGHT OUT OF OUR OUT OF THE LINKS. THEY TURNED RIGHT ON CENTRAL COLLEGE, AND THEN THEY TURNED LEFT ON 605 ALL THE WAY TO SCHOOL. OKAY SO IT'S RIGHT THERE. IS THAT ALL ON LEISURE TRAIL TODAY, RIGHT ON SIDEWALKS. NO PLEASURE TRIP. YEAH. EXCEPT FOR THE CORNER SIDE . IT'S NOT. IT'S NOT. IT'S NOT BIKE PATH SLASH LEISURE TRIP. I DON'T KNOW IT'S JUST STRAIGHT UP SIDEWALKS BECAUSE I I'VE TRIED TO TAKE THAT PATH. THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING. IT'S THE SAFEST ONE SOME OF LEISURE PATH IN FRONT OF KIRK'S HOUSE SCHOOL. CORRECT CENTRAL COLUMN. YEAH CORRECT AND YOU CROSS 605. I HAD TO DO A LOT OF YEAH, BACK OVER TO THE LEISURE TRAILER, TRAILER, QUOTE, SIDEWALK. WHATEVER YOU WANNA CALL IT ON A STRAIGHT SHOT OR THE WEST SIDE OF 605 OVER THE BRIDGE. YEAH YEAH, AND SO AND AGAIN TO BE CLEAR. ACROSS CENTRAL COLLEGE, THEY CROSSED 605. THEY CROSSED WALTON PARKWAY. RIGHT? AND ROUND ABOUT MAKE THAT CONNECTION BETTER. PERIOD. YEAH. I MEAN, IF IT WERE ALL TRAILS AWAY FROM THE ROADS. GOT THAT'S JUST NOT WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT AND THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. WELL. AND LIKE, JUST THE CONSTRUCTION. I MEAN, HOW LONG IS IT PROJECT GOING TO TAKE? TWO YEARS, THREE YEARS LIKE OH, MY GOD, THE CONSTRUCTION ALL THAT TIME. THANKS FOR ASKING. THANK

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ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? STEVE SEGAL. THANKS EVERYBODY. I MEAN, THIS IS THIS HAS BEEN A TOUGH ROAD. BUT AS I SIT HERE TODAY, AND I'VE BEEN LISTENING TO ALL THESE PRESENTATIONS. I KIND OF AGREE WITH DARRYL LIKE NOBODY NORTH OF 1 61 WANTS THIS HAMLET. THERE'S NOBODY. ONE GUY CAME IN HERE LAST TIME AND SAID IT WOULD BE COOL IF I COULD WALK THROUGH SOME SHOPS. BUT EVERYBODY ELSE IS TALKING ABOUT THE NO PARTS OF THIS DEVELOPMENT. THERE'S NOBODY TALKING ABOUT THE POSITIVES. IN THE BIGGEST PROBLEM I SEE. IS THAT WE'VE SPENT 30 YEARS. IN NEW ALBANY, CREATING OUR MARKET. STREET DISTRICT. WE HAVE AMPLE OPPORTUNITIES TO EXPAND THAT DISTRICT. BUILD MORE RESTAURANTS , CREATING WORK COOL. TOWN HOMES. AND KEEP THE CRITICAL MASS TO MAKE RETAIL AND COMMERCIAL SUCCESSFUL IN OUR CORE DOWNTOWN COMMUNITY THAT'S TAKEN 30 YEARS. WE ARE EMBARKING ON AN EXPERIMENT. NEW ALBANY IS KNOWN FOR ITS CAREFUL CITY PLANNING. ITS STRATEGIC THINKING. IT'S A VALUATION. THIS DEVELOPERS MEETING CRITERIA. WE DO NOT NEED A SECOND MARKET STREET AT 605 IN CENTRAL COLLEGE. NOBODY WANTS IT. I WANT TO GO TO MARKET STREET. MY NEIGHBORS WANT A GOOD MARKET STREET. I WANT TO GO TO FRESHMEN. IF I'M A BUSINESS OWNER. MARKET STREET. I DON'T WANT ANOTHER MARKET STREET AT 605. IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. THIS IS AN EXPERIMENT. WE CAN'T AFFORD AN EXPERIMENT THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE FOR OUR COMMUNITY. AND YOU GUYS DON'T WANT TO BE THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT VOTE FOR THIS. IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. WE HAVE STARBUCKS THAT MARKET A LOCAL FW GREAT COFFEE SHOP. WE HAVE A STARBUCKS WITH THE DRIVE THRU ACROSS FROM GIANT EAGLE. WE HAVE A NEW DUNKIN DONUTS ON 62 COMING. WE HAVE SHEETS. WE HAVE TURKEY HILL. WE HAVE A DUKE AND DUCHESS, WHO, BY THE WAY, GOT THE RAW END OF THE GAS STATION DEAL BECAUSE NOBODY'S GOING THERE BECAUSE OF THEIR LOCATION. WE HAVE AMPLE PLACES TO GET A CUP OF COFFEE. WE DON'T NEED ANOTHER DRIVE THROUGH COFFEE PLACE AT CENTRAL COLLEGE. LIKE AND IN THE THINK THAT THEY'RE THERE. CHIPOTLE WITH THE PICK UP WINDOW IS DIFFERENT THAN TACO BELL. GIVE ME A BREAK. GUYS.

WHAT ARE WE DOING? 30 YEARS TO GET MARKET STREET TO WHERE IT IS TODAY, AND WE THINK WE CAN PUT A PROJECT LIKE THIS AT CENTRAL COLLEGE 605. THERE'S A CRITICAL MASS IS ZERO THERE'S NO CRITICAL MASS. IF YOU TALK TO MR STEINER , ABOUT WHAT SUCCESSFUL IN RETAIL AND HOW YOU GET PEOPLE TO GO TO, YOU NEED CRITICAL MASS. WE DON'T HAVE CRITICAL MASS AT WORK. IT'S TREAT. AND NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING A COMPETITIVE DEVELOPMENT. IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE. WHY ARE WE EVEN TALKING ABOUT IT? WELL, JUST FOR CLARITY. THIS IS NOT THE CITY OF NEW ALBANESE APPLICATION. THIS IS A PROPERTY OWNER WHO HAS ASKED FOR A ZONING. REVIEW RIGHT NOW, SAY NO, WE DON'T HAVE YOU DON'T HAVE TO CONSIDER IT. YES WE DO. YES WE ABSOLUTELY DO HAVE TO CONSIDER THE I GUESS. AT THE END OF THE DAY YOU GOTTA CONSIDER IT BUT TO THINK THAT WE'RE SITTING HERE TALKING ABOUT A SCRAP OF TRAFFICS. WE HAVE A TRAFFIC PROBLEM ON SIX OR FIVE. NO ONE'S TALKING ABOUT THE TRAFFIC PROBLEM THAT WE ALREADY HAVE. AND THE WE'RE LOOKING AT I MEAN , THERE'S JUST SO MANY THINGS THAT DON'T MAKE SENSE ABOUT THIS PROJECT. I'M JUST A NORMAL GUY.

LIVIN THE LINKS I GO TO WORK. I GOT TWO KIDS THIS COMMERCIAL RETAIL. REAL LITERATE. I'VE BEEN DOING COMMERCIAL RETAIL PROJECTS FOR 20 YEARS WITH PROMINENT DEVELOPERS IN COLUMBUS. THIS PROJECT. FROM A RETAIL STANDPOINT, MAKES ZERO CENTS FROM A DEMAND STANDPOINT. WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WHEN THEY CAN'T LEASE THE SPACE? THOSE PLACES SIT OPEN. HOW ARE WE GOING TO PAY THE TIFF BACK? IT'S JUST THIS PROJECT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. YOU GUYS GOT TO DO YOUR DUE

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ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? ALRIGHT COUNSELOR, COMMENT AND ADDITIONAL COUNSEL

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COUNCIL MEMBER OF RISK DO WE NEED TO MAKE A NOTE ABOUT COUNCIL MEMBER? THAT'S RIGHT.

SHE HAD TO GO. SO I HAVE FIVE YES VOTES AND ONE ABSENT TO COME OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION AT 11 05. PM IMMEDIATE BUSINESS COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION. REMEMBER THE WAGE EARNER 2ND 2ND. AN AND TWO. AND WE ARE ADJOURNING AT

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