Dec 06, 2022 City Council

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

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GENTLEMEN, WELCOME TO THE NORTHERN CITY COUNCIL MEETING FOR DECEMBER. 6TH I WOULD ASK EVERYONE TO PLEASE STAND WITH CITY COUNCIL AND RECITE OUR NATIONAL PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I BELIEVE IN THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION. YEAH VISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FRAUD. CLERK MASON, THE ROLL, PLEASE.

COUNCIL TURNED ON THEIR MICROPHONES. MAYOR SPAULDING HERE, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER BRISK.

I ASSUME IT'S OUT. HAS ANYONE HEARD FROM HER? SHE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO ATTEND TONIGHT'S MEETING. I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO EXCUSE YOUR ABSENCE. COUNCIL MEMBER DEREK HERE, FELLAS. HERE REMEMBER TEST HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER SHAW HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER WILL TRY OUT HERE HAVE SIX PRESENT FOR THE DECEMBER 6TH 2022 REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING AND I WOULD MOVE THE WE EXCUSE COUNCIL MEMBER BRISK AS SHE'S HOME, TENDING TO A SICK FAMILY MEMBER SECOND. THAT WAS A BUNCH OF THE SAME TIME MAYOR STARTING . YES YES, WELL, TROUT COUNCIL MEMBER SHAWL. YES YES. COUNCIL MEMBER FELLOWS? YES YES. VOTES TO EXCUSE COUNCIL MEMBER BREAST FROM TONIGHT'S MEETING. ACTUALLY

[4. ACTION ON MINUTES]

[5. ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS TO THE AGENDA]

THERE IS A CHANCE THAT THERE MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT OF RIVER BETWEEN THIS ROOM AND THE TV. SO CLOSE THOSE DOORS SO THAT PEOPLE CAN USE THE LOBBY EFFECTIVELY. IF WE NEED TO SCATTER. DON'T THINK WE NEED TO CLOSE THEM JUST YET, BUT IF IT DOES BECOME PROBLEMATIC TO HERE WILL PROBABLY HAVE TO CLOSE THOSE DOORS. JUST TRY TO KEEP THE VOLUME ON. A LITTLE LOW OUT THERE. IF THERE'S NOT A CROWD YET ASSEMBLED, JENNIFER IT'S TRUE, THOUGH, IF YOU SPILL SPEAKER CARD AND YOU'RE OUT WATCHING YOU WILL BE CALLED YES AND CRISTINA MEDICARE. THE DEPUTY COUNCIL CLERK IS RIGHT THERE. PLEASE GET HER YEAR SPEAKER CARDS AND SHE WILL DELIVER THEM. ANOTHER FRIENDLY REMINDER. WE HAVE A THREE MINUTE RULE FOR SPEAKERS, WHICH GENERALLY DON'T USE THAT RULE. WE WANT EVERYONE TO HAVE A CHANCE TO GIVE THOROUGH INPUT, AND WE CERTAINLY WANT TO, UH, DO AS MUCH AS WE CAN TONIGHT TO ALLOW EVERYONE A CHANCE TO SPEAK. BUT GENERALLY IF SOMEONE HAS ALREADY MADE A COMMENT, AND YOU DISAGREE WITH THAT COMMENT, YOU CAN INDICATE AS SUCH, YOU DON'T HAVE TO MAKE THE SAME STATEMENT OVER AGAIN. AND ONCE YOU'VE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO COUNSEL AND LISTEN TO THE APPLICANTS PRESENTATION IF THERE'S SOMEONE IN THE LOBBY THAT'S NOT YET HAD THAT OPPORTUNITY. JUST AS A GOOD NEIGHBOR, UM, CONSIDER MOVING INTO THE LOBBY AND LETTING THAT PERSON COME INTO THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS. I THINK THAT'S ALL IN THE HOUSEKEEPING LIST. I HAD UM , HEARING OF VISITORS. IS THERE

[6. HEARING OF VISITORS]

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IT'LL BE FLUSH. BEEN THERE THREE YEARS AND FOR SOME UNKNOWN, STUPID REASON. I TRIPPED OVER ONE OF THOSE LAST WEEK. MY KNEE BROKE MY GLASSES. GOT A CUT ON TOP OF MY FOREHEAD. LUCKILY I WAS ABLE TO GET UP. I DON'T THINK EVERYBODY IN OUR 55 PLUS COMMUNITY WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO THAT. AND I THINK IT'S JUST A HAZARD. WE'VE ALSO HAVE ISSUES WITH THE SPEED LIMIT ON +605, SOUTH OF WALNUT, THE ONLY THE BASIC ENTRANCE TO THE COMMUNITY. IS ON HIS ODD 605. UH TRYING TO PULL OUT OF THERE IS DANGEROUS. EVERYBODY THAT'S BEEN THERE WILL TELL YOU. THE FIRST THING YOU DO IS LOOK IN THE MIRROR. TO MAKE SURE AND EIGHT AXLE DUMP TRUCK. WITH A ZILLION POUNDS OF GRAVEL IN IT ISN'T GOING TO TRY AND EAT YOU ALIVE. UH ALSO INTERESTING IS IN A MR CHRISTIANSEN FROM THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT GAVE ME A MAP OF NEW ALBANY. INTERESTING ENOUGH. WHEN WE PULL OUT ON THE 605 HEADED SOUTH. TOWARDS NEW ALBANY. WE LEAVE THE CITY OF NEW WELL BEING OR IN THE TOWNSHIP. BECAUSE NEW ALBANY DOES NOT CROSS 605. UNTIL I'M GOING TO GUESS ABOUT FIVE OR 600 FT. SOUTH OF OUR. THE INTEREST START COMMUNITY. THE INTERESTING THING IS THERE IT GOES ACROSS THE STREET AND COMES BACK UP. EVEN WITH OUR. DONEGAN BOULEVARD BECAUSE THE VISIT THE DOG COLLEGE. I APOLOGIZE. I DON'T REMEMBER THE NAME OF THE CANINE COMPANION IS ALSO IN NEW ALBANY IF WE WANTED TO WALK ACROSS THE STREET WE WOULD WALK OUT OF NEW ALBANY AND BACK INTO NEW ALBANY BECAUSE THAT PORTION OF 605 IS TOWNSHIP. I TALKED TO SOMEBODY IN THE TOWNSHIP OFFICE ABOUT THE SPEED LIMIT. THEY SAID THEY WERE NOT INVOLVED WITH THE SPEED LIMITS. AND I ASKED HIM BUT THE, UM TOWNSHIP. FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THE MTS DO DEAL WITH THE INTERSECTION OF WALNUT AND 605. AND I ASSUMED. THE POLICE ARE WELL AWARE THAT THAT IS A EXCELLENT LOOKING TO HAPPEN AT THAT INTERSECTION. I ALSO SPOKE WITH UPSIDE RAMBLING. I ALSO SPOKE WITH THE FRANKLIN COUNTY ENGINEER ABOUT SLIPPY ROAD SOUTH OF WALNUT. UH, IT'S 55 MILES AN HOUR BECAUSE IT'S AN UNMARKED COUNTY ROAD. I WAS ABLE TO GET THEM SUCCESSFULLY TO PUT UP A SIGN JUST OUTSIDE OF THE

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THE BUILDER. OUR H O A. THE MASTER, HUH? BOOT LOADER H O A IN THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY.

NOBODY WANTS TO STAND UP AND SAY, OH, THAT'S OUR PROBLEM. WE ALSO HAVE THAT PATH BETWEEN CALLOWAY EAST AND CALLAWAY WEST . THERE WAS CLOSED BY YOUR SERVICE DEPARTMENT OVER A YEAR AGO. BECAUSE THE WATER FLOODS IN THE WATER COMES UP OVER THE CURBS, AND IT'S ABSOLUTELY TOO DANGEROUS TO WALK IN BECAUSE YOU CAN'T TELL HOW DEEP THE WATER IS . I INVITE ANY OF YOU IN ALL OF YOU. TO COME OUT AND TAKE A WALK AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I THINK YOU'LL AGREE THAT THERE IS ISSUES AND I THINK A LOT OF HAVE TO DO WITH SAFETY. THANK YOU FOR LISTENING, CHARLES. THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE IT. AS YOU KNOW, I SPENT SOME QUALITY TIME ON THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. UM AND WE HAVE DEALT WITH SOME OF THOSE COMPLAINTS. IN THE PAST. I WILL MAKE SURE THAT OUR ZONING OFFICE REACHES OUT TO YOU DIRECTLY. PAM HICKOK AND RYAN OLI. AND I THINK PROBABLY MR BARKER HAD DEALT EXCLUSIVELY WITH FAULTY OVER THE YEARS AND TRY TO RESOLVE SOME USE ISSUES. SO TWO HOUSES AWAY FROM THE EAST ACROSS WEST CROSS INTERSECTION EXACTLY WHERE YOU LIVE. WE BELIEVE IT SHOULD BE A FOUR WAY STOP. OKAY. THANK YOU, SIR. HI ANY OTHER VISITORS WHO WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS COUNCIL REGARDING SOMETHING NOT ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA. ALRIGHT THAT TAKES US THE BOARD AND

[7. BOARD/COMMISSION REPORTS]

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[9. SECOND READING OF ORDINANCES AND PUBLIC HEARING]

FROM RESIDENTIAL ESTATE ARE ONE TO INFILL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT HOODIE FOR AN AREA TO BE KNOWN AS THE HAMLET AS SUGAR RUN ZONING DISTRICT, AS REQUESTED BY KNOWING A MASTER DEVELOPMENT LLC. ATTENTION YOU ARE MERE STEINER AND BRIAN STONE CARE OF AARON AND UNDERHILL, ESQUIRE, MR CHRISTIAN THANK YOU GIVE US JUST A MOMENT TO GET THE SLIDE SHIFT SWITCHED OVER.

OKAY THANK YOU. SO DURING OUR LAST CITY COUNCIL MEETING, WE GIVE A FAIRLY LARGE OVERVIEW OF THE PROPOSED REZONING APPLICATION TONIGHT. I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION PLACED AT THE APPLICATION, SOME OF THE CITY TRAFFIC ENGINEER CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL AND AS WELL AS ENDING ON THE STRATEGIC PLAN. SO ON NOVEMBER 7TH OF THIS YEAR, THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID REVIEW THE PROPOSED REZONING APPLICATION AND RECOMMENDED APPROVAL TO CITY COUNCIL WITH CONDITIONS. THOSE CONDITIONS.

THERE'S 10 CONDITIONS ARE HERE ON THE SCREEN, AND WHAT WE'RE GOING TO SCREEN ALL HIGHLIGHT A COUPLE OF THEM SO TO FAIRLY COMMON CONDITIONS ONE AND TWO THAT THE CITY TRAFFIC ENGINEER AND CITY ENGINEER COMMENTS MUST BE ADDRESSED, SUBJECT TO STAFF APPROVAL. THERE WAS ALSO A CONDITION OF APPROVAL THAT ALL ROOFTOP AND GROUND MOUNTED EQUIPMENT FOR ALL SUB AREAS BE SCREENED, WHICH IS A COMMON REQUIREMENT FOUND THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY. AND ALSO THERE WAS A REQUIREMENT PLACED ON THE PARKLAND OR SOME AREA FOUR THAT ALL NATIVE NONINVASIVE UNDERSTORY WITHIN THAT AREA BE PRESERVED AND POSSIBLE AGAIN. THOSE ARE JUST SOME OF THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL THAT REPLACED ON THE APPLICATION. EXPANDING UPON THE CITY TRAFFIC ENGINEER CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL THAT WERE LISTED ON THE PREVIOUS SCREEN. SO THE CITY TRAFFIC ENGINEER RECOMMENDS THAT ALONG 605. THE ROAD WILL NEED TO BE WIDENED TO THREE LANES IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE THE INFLATION OF ALL THE LEFT TURN LANES THAT ARE WARRANTED A PART OF THE STUDY.

THE SECOND CONDITION OF APPROVAL . THERE'S SOME ADDITIONAL COORDINATION THAT'S NEEDED BETWEEN THE CITY AND APPLICANT DETERMINED THE FINAL DESIGN OF THE INTERSECTION OF STATE ROUTE 605 AND SNYDER LOOP. TO ADDRESS THE POTENTIAL LEFT HAND LEFT HAND TURNING MOVEMENT CONCERNS FINAL DESIGN OF THE INTERSECTION AND ALL FUTURE INTERSECTIONS WITHIN THE SUNNI DISTRICTS WOULD COME AT THE TIME OF THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPLICATION IF THE REZONING APPLICATION IS APPROVED. AND THEN THE LAST ONE, UH, WAS THAT IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE DEVELOPMENT, THE CITY WOULD WORK WITH THE APPLICANT TO THE CITY WOULD DETERMINE THE STATUS FOR POTENTIALLY LOWERING THE SPEED LIMIT ALONG STATE ROUTE 605. UH, BETWEEN CENTRAL COLLEGE ROAD AND WALTON PARKWAY. SO THE PROPOSED REZONING APPLICATION EITHER MEETS OR COMMITS TO MEETING ALL 15 OF THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS FOUND WITHIN WITHIN THE ENGAGEMENT ALBANY STRATEGIC PLAN FOR THE HAMLET, FUTURE LAND USE DISTRICT OR HIGHLIGHT A COUPLE OF THOSE WHILE THEY'RE HERE ON THE SCREEN, SO THE FIRST ONE IS THE APPLICANT COMMITS TO NOT EXCEEDING. OOPS. COMMITS TO NOT EXCEEDING SIX DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE. THERE'S ALSO COMMITMENTS IN THE TEXT AND CITY CODE ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF PART OPEN SPACE AND HE'S FROM BE PROVIDED ON THE SITE. ADDITIONALLY THE APPLICANT IS COMMITTING TO MEET OUR COMMITTEE TO PROVIDE AT LEAST 200 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL USES FOR EVERY SINGLE DWELLING UNIT. THE ON THE SCREEN. ONE THAT WILL HIGHLIGHT IS THAT THE APPLICANT COMMITS TO PROVIDING A PARKING MODEL AT THE TIME OF FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN, AND THE APPLICANT COMMUNITY COMMITS TO RETURNING TO THE CITY'S ARCHITECTURE REVIEW BOARD FOR REVIEW AND APPROVAL OF THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN AGAIN IF THE APPLICATION RESULTING APPLICATIONS APPROVED BY COUNCIL AS I MENTIONED JUST TO REITERATE THE APPLICANT EITHER MEETS OR COMMITS TO MEETING ALL 15 OF THESE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AS WE MOVE FORWARD IN THE FINAL

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IT'S THE APPLICANT HERE, SENATOR, HUH? STEVE CAN BECOME THE MICROPHONE JUST SO THAT EVERYONE CAN HEAR. THANK YOU. THAT CIRCLE FOR THE NEW ALBANY HAMLET. BUT YET THERE'S LIKE SQUARES AND RECTANGLES AND DIFFERENT LOCATIONS. WHAT'S THE PURPOSE FOR THE CIRCLE? THAT'S JUST TO IDENTIFY AND THE LEGEND ITSELF.

THAT'S IT, BUT THE IS A SQUARE OR RECTANGLE. IS THERE SOME PURPOSE FOR A CIRCLE JUST USED AS AN ICON IN THE LEGEND? OKAY, IT'S JUST CONFUSING. ALL RIGHT. MR ANDREW HILL. CAN EVERYONE HEAR ME? NOTHING CAN OKAY. GOOD EVENING, AARON UNDERHILL WITH UNDERHILL AND HODGE, ATTORNEY FOR THE APPLICANT, STEINER AND ASSOCIATES AND THEIR AFFILIATE ENTITY. MY ADDRESS IS 8000 WALTON PARKWAY HERE IN NEW ALBANY. IN PREPARATION FOR THIS MEETING. MY MIND HAS GONE ON A MILLION DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS. I'M NO LITERARY SCHOLAR, BUT I DIDN'T REMEMBER THAT. WILLIAM SHAKESPEARE WROTE A LITTLE STORY CALLED HAMLET. AND I THOUGHT, I'LL GOOGLE THAT AND SEE IF YOU PROVIDE ME WITH ANY INSPIRATION AND IT TURNS OUT THIS FAMOUS QUOTE IS FROM THAT PLAY. TO BE OR NOT TO BE. THAT IS THE QUESTION. AND REALLY THIS HEARING TONIGHT BOILS DOWN TO THE HAMLET AT SUGAR ON B OR SHOULD IT NOT BE? OBVIOUSLY THERE ARE STRONG OPINIONS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ISSUE. BUT THE TRUTH IS THE POLICY DECISION ON WHETHER A HAMLET IS THE RIGHT THING FOR NEW ALBANY HAS BEEN ADDRESSED. ONE TIME WITH THE ADOPTION OF THE ENGAGED NEW ALBANY STRATEGIC PLAN IN 2021. AND AGAIN EARLIER THIS YEAR WITH AN UPDATE TO THAT PLAN, WHICH HAD A VERY DETAILED FOCUSED ON ON THE HAMLET CONCEPT. UPDATE NOT ONLY CONFIRMED THE CITY'S COMMITMENT TO A HAMLET BUT IT CONFIRMED THAT THIS PARTICULAR SITE IS THE PREFERRED LOCATION FOR IT. JUST AS NOTEWORTHY WITH THAT UPDATE WAS THE NUMBER OF STANDARDS THAT WERE RECOMMENDED AS PREREQUISITES TO THE CONSIDERATION OF THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT. THIS UNDERSCORED THAT THE HOW OF SUCH A PROJECT WAS JUST AS IMPORTANT TO YOU AS A QUESTION OF WHETHER IT SHOULD BE PERMITTED IN THE FIRST PLACE. THE PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLANS BEFORE YOU MEET ALL 15 OF THE LISTED RECOMMENDATIONS FOR SUCH A DEVELOPMENT IN THE STRATEGIC PLAN. ZONING AND DEVELOPMENT ARE VERY COMPLICATED ISSUES. IT'S WHAT GIVES GUYS LIKE ME A JOB. LOCAL GOVERNMENT SET A VISION AND THAT VISION MAY BE PURSUED BY THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY IMMEDIATELY OR IT MAY TAKE YEARS. FOR EXAMPLE, THE ROCKY FORK BLACK LIKE ACCORD HAS CONTEMPLATED THIS SORT OF DEVELOPMENT NORTH OF STATE ROUTE 1, 61 AND SOME ITERATION SINCE 1996 AND THEN THAT WAS UPDATED IN 2001 AND 2003 WITH NO CHANGE TO THAT RECOMMENDATION. THE MORE RECENT TIMES MARKET TRENDS GROWTH IN THE AREA'S POPULATION IN THE MAJOR SUCCESSES OF THE BUSINESS PARK LED THE CITY TO RECOGNIZE THE TIME IS RIGHT TO TAKE THE IDEA A LITTLE FURTHER. THE HAMLET DEVELOPMENT MODEL WAS BORN AND RECOMMENDED FOR TWO LOCATIONS IN THE CITY. THE MARKET RESPONDED ACCORDINGLY, WHICH VALUE WHICH VALIDATED THE CITY'S VISION. WITH THE STRATEGIC PLAN UPDATE EARLIER THIS YEAR, THE RECOMMENDATION OF A SECOND HAMLET LOCATION WAS ELIMINATED. THE RECOMMENDATION FOR A HAMLET ON THIS SITE SURVIVED. IT COULD HAVE BEEN ELIMINATED AS WELL. THAT IS MEANINGFUL AND SIGNALED THE CITY'S CONTINUED ENDORSEMENT OF CONCEPT AND MAKING A DECISION THIS TIME AROUND. WE ASK YOU TO CONSIDER THE HISTORY HERE IN THE EFFORTS MADE BY THE APPLICANT TO DELIVER EXACTLY WHAT THE UPDATED STRATEGIC PLAN HAS CALLED FOR. ANYONE LOOKING TO PURSUE A DEVELOPMENT IN NEW ALBANY AND REQUIRES A ZONING TO GET THAT DONE WILL ALWAYS LOOK FIRST TO YOUR STRATEGIC PLAN. EVERY APPLICANT TAKES THIS DOCUMENT VERY SERIOUSLY GIVEN IT GIVEN THAT IT IS THE BASELINE FOR EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENS IN THE COMMUNITY. CERTAINLY THERE ARE INSTANCES WHERE DEVIATIONS FROM THE PLAN MAY BE JUSTIFIED. BUT IN THIS CASE, THE APPLICANT NEWS THAT IS BLAZING A VERY NEW TRAIL. THEREFORE SUBSTANTIAL COMPLIANCE WITH THE VARIOUS SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS OF THE HAMLET. FOCUS AREA HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE GOAL WITH US. SOME OF

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ANOTHER CLAIM IS AT THE INTERSECTION OF CENTRAL COLLEGE ROAD AND STATE ROUTE 65 SO DANGEROUS THAT THE HAMLET SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED BECAUSE OF WHAT I HAD TRAFFIC THERE. WE WENT, ENTERTAINED ACTUAL DATA FROM THE CITY'S POLICE DEPARTMENT AND INDICATES A TOTAL OF SEVEN ACCIDENTS HAVE OCCURRED IN THE TIME PERIOD BETWEEN DECEMBER 2021. AND NOVEMBER 2022, NONE OF THEM INVOLVED IN SERIOUS INJURY, AT LEAST ACCORDING TO THAT DATA. THIS IS NOT A VERY LARGE NUMBER , CONSIDERING THE NUMBER OF TRIPS THROUGH THAT INTERSECTION ON A DAILY BASIS. CRIME DATA FROM SEVERAL EXISTING COMMUNITIES IN NEW ALBANY HAS BEEN PROVIDED BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. USING THIS DATA. OUR PROJECTION IS APPLIED TO OUR PROJECT IS THAT THE HAMLET WOULD GENERATE NINE POLICE REPORTS PER YEAR AT BUILD OUT NOW, NO ONE REALLY KNOWS WHETHER THAT'S TRUE OR NOT, BUT ON THE PLANE, OBJECTIVE DATA TO THE EXTENT THAT WE COULD GET OUR HANDS ON IT. UM THE COMMON LOGIC WOULD SAY THAT SIX HOMES THAT ARE WORTH $600,000 TO $750,000 ON AVERAGE ARE NOT GOING TO BE A MAGNET FOR CRIME. I REALIZE WE ALSO HAVE SOME FLATS IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. BUT UM, I THINK COMPARING THIS PROJECT, ANYTHING GOING ON TO THE WESTERN COLUMBUS IGNORES THE FACT THAT THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE IN VALUES. YOU ANSWER HOW MANY OF THOSE UNITS WILL BE OWNER OCCUPIED? AND HOW MANY WILL BE RENTAL PROPERTIES? DO YOU KNOW WE ARE? YOU KNOW, WE HAVEN'T UM , MADE A COMMITMENT ONE WAY OR THE OTHER IN AVATAR CENSUS. 50 50 WOULD BE THE BASELINE 50% RENTAL 50% FOR SALE. CONSIDERATION OF TRAFFIC, SCHOOL IMPACTS AND CRIME ARE CERTAINLY WARRANTED WHEN REVIEWING THE DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL ON THESE TOPICS, REAL WORLD DATA AND PROFESSIONAL ANALYSIS OR MORE CREDIBLE THAN GENERAL ASSERTIONS AND UNSUBSTANTIATED OPINIONS. CHANGE CAN BE DIFFICULT, AND THE FEAR OF THE UNKNOWN MAY LEAD SOME TO ALARMING CONCLUSIONS. BUT THIS PROJECT IS BEING PROPOSED BY A DEVELOPER WITH A REPUTATION FOR EXCELLENCE IS OUR HOPE THAT THOSE WHO ARE IN THIS ROOM THIS EVENING BECOME PATRONS OF THE RESTAURANTS IN HER HIGHLY VISIBLE USERS OF THE PARKLAND. WE BELIEVE IT'S LIKELY THAT SOMEDAY EVEN OPPONENTS OF THIS DEVELOPMENT WILL BE REGARDED AS A GREAT ASSET TO THE COMMUNITY.

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RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY, TWO BEDROOM PLUS TENS 2.5 BATHS, APPROXIMATELY 1800 SQUARE FEET TO 2600 SQUARE FEET. WE DISSIPATE SALES PRICES IN THE 708 $150,000 RANGE. THE FLATS.

WE BREAK OUT INTO TWO DIFFERENT GROUPS THAT THE CONDOS COMPONENT . WE EXPECT THOSE TO BE TWO BEDROOM TWO OR 2.5 BATHS, DEPENDING ON THE LAYOUT. APPROXIMATELY 1500 SQUARE FEET ANTICIPATE SALE PRICE OF 600 TO $650,000 MANY FLATS ARE WE, UM OR IN THE PLAN. WE'VE CONTEMPLATED 40 40. HALF OF THOSE WILL BE RENTAL AND NOW THE PLANET'S ANTICIPATING 20 ISH OF THE 40 TO BE CONDOS, OKAY? THE APARTMENTS OR RENTAL UNITS. THOSE ARE MOSTLY GOING TO BE ONE BEDROOMS WITH A FEW TWO BEDROOMS, APPROXIMATELY 800 SQUARE FEET TO 1100 SQUARE FEET.

RENTAL RATES IN THE 1900 TO 2500 A MONTH RANGE. SO THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH MARKET AND MAIN AND MOST OF THE SIMILAR PRODUCT IN CENTRAL OHIO RIGHT NOW AND HOW MANY UNITS OF THE FLATS AGAIN. THERE'S WE'VE PROPOSED 40 SO HALF CONDOMS ABOUT 20 AND THE RENTAL WOULD BE ABOUT 20 AS WELL. OKAY, THANKS. RENTAL IS PRIMARILY TO ACHIEVE THE APPROPRIATE MASSING ALONG THE CIVIC GREEN, SO WE'RE GONNA NOT ALWAYS PUTTING OFFICE ABOVE EVERY RETAIL USER. THE OPPORTUNITIES EVENTUALLY HAVE SOME SOME APARTMENTS UP ON THOSE UP HOW MANY BACKGROUNDS WILL BE IN THE RENTAL? ARE YOU ANTICIPATING MIGHT SAY THAT BUT MOSTLY ONE BEDROOMS WITH A FEW TWO BEDROOMS AGAIN, PRETTY CONSISTENT WITH THE MARKET AND MAIN MIX AND PRICING STRUCTURE AND SIMILAR AMENITIES AND QUALITY. IN THE PARKING THE PARKING FOR THOSE. IN THE PARKING FOR THE FLATS AND THE CONDOS OR THEY UNDERNEATH THE ANTICIPATION IS CURRENTLY THAT THE CONDO BUILDINGS WILL HAVE A GARAGE SPOT. OKAY ON THE GROUND FLOOR IS ANTICIPATED RIGHT NOW THAT THE RENTAL UNITS THOSE 20 WOULD HAVE SURFACE PARKING WITHIN THE PARKING FIELDS IN THE COMMERCIAL AREA. SO THAT INCLUDES BOTH SUB AREA ONE AND TWO FOR THEM. THAT'S RENTALS. IS GOING TO BE IN TWO CF EIGHT OF THEM HERE HAVE ONE AND TWO SO THAT WE BOTH WANTED TO THERE IN THAT TRANSITION, SO OKAY? QUESTIONS. IN PREVIOUS MEETINGS , THERE'S BEEN A BACK AND FORTH DISCUSSION ABOUT AREA FIVE. SUB AREA FIVE. WHAT'S THE INTENT? THERE IS THIS GOING TO BE COMMERCIAL? IS THIS GOING TO BE HOUSED? WHAT'S GOING TO BE GOING THERE? BECAUSE IT'S GONE BACK AND FORTH, AND I'D LIKE TO HAVE SOME DIRECTION BEFORE WE GO TO VOTE ON THIS, SO WE HAVE SAID THAT RIGHT NOW, THE PRIMARY INTEREST IS IN RESIDENTIAL. INITIALLY IT WAS ANTICIPATED A YEAR AGO, WE HAD SIGNIFICANT INTEREST IN THE ASSISTED LIVING COMPONENT. UH WE HAVE LESS INTEREST NOW. KIND OF AS THIS PROCESS IS PLAYED OUT. SOME OF THE PARTNERS WE DISCUSSED HAVE KIND OF PULLED OUT AND OUR GREATEST OPPORTUNITY FOR INTEREST THAT WE SEE RIGHT NOW IS RESIDENTIAL, WHETHER THAT'S SINGLE FAMILY OR ATTACHED. WE FEEL THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY IF IT ISN'T ATTACHED PRODUCT DOWN THERE. IT HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE A LITTLE BIT BIGGER, SIMILAR TO A LAST WEEK. YOU KNOW, RICHMOND SQUARE AND QUICK. THEY HAVE DIFFERENT KIND OF GARAGE STRUCTURES, AND WE FEEL THERE'S A LITTLE BIT MORE SPACE DOWN THERE. IF THEY ARE ATTACHED JUST TO BE A LITTLE BIT LONGER. WHAT WOULD YOU ANTICIPATE THE VALUE OF THOSE STAND THERAPY CAN NOW SIMILAR IN THAT 708 $150,000 RANGE IF THOSE ARE A LITTLE BIT BIGGER, UM, THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THOSE TO GO ON THE HIGHER RANGE. SO WHAT'S THE NUMBER OF UNITS GOING IN THERE?

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SO AND THE PLAN THAT WE HAVE ORIGINALLY THERE'S 24 UNITS THERE AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE UNDERSTAND. SO YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT GOING TO 35 IN THAT AREA. IT WAS THE ORIGINAL ZONING TEXT ALOUD FOR 55 OKAY, BASED ON A MORE COMPACT TOWN HOME PRODUCT THAT ILLUSTRATED INITIALLY WE HAD A ROCKY FORK BLACK LOOK, ACCORD SUBMISSION THAT INCLUDED SINGLE FAMILY DOWN THERE THAT WAS IN THE 24 TO 25 UNIT COUNT. I THINK THERE WAS SOME CONCERN WITH THE WAY WE

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ON TOP OF THE TOWN, HOME OR OVERALL UNIT COUNT. HOW MANY UNITS WERE PART OF THE THIS STUDY THAT WAS PROVIDED TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT SO THAT THEY CAN ALSO CONFIRM WHATEVER NUMBERS THAT YOU HAD COME UP WITH? IN YOUR STUDY INCLUDED THE 188 TOP EDGE, AND THEN WE DID A VERSION THAT MATCHED THAT SHOWED HIGHER CONCENTRATION OF ATTACHED PRODUCTS LIKE TOWN HOMES, BECAUSE, AS WE'VE PROBABLY SEEN, THERE'S A LOWER NUMBER OF STUDENTS AFFILIATED WITH ATTACHED OR TOWN HOME PRODUCTS, AND THEN IN MY MEMO IN THE APPLICATION, I RE RAN THAT WITH A HIGHER NUMBER IN CASE THAT WAS SINGLE FAMILY TO THE SOUTH, AND I PROVIDED THAT NUMBER ILLUSTRATING WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE IF THAT WAS A HIGHER NUMBER OF SINGLE FAMILY AND JUST TO CONFIRM THE SCHOOL DISTRICT THAT THEIR OWN INDEPENDENT ANALYSIS OF THAT PLAN THEY DID THE IMPACT TO THE SCHOOL. CORRECT. I BELIEVE THE PLAN. THEY DID ASSUME THAT ONE, WHICH IS THE ATTACHED PRODUCT TO THE SOUTH. AND YOU SAID THAT THE WHATEVER THE SUB AREA FIVE WE END UP WITH IF IT'S 35, OR THEREABOUTS. THE HOUSES WILL BE FRONTING. SUGAR RUN. CONFRONTING WOMAN. IF YOU DO THE TWO RIGHT IS THAT IF I'M DOING THAT, RIGHT. HOUSES THAT ARE BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE THEY HAVE TWO LAYERS TO LEVELS HERE. WORRIED WHAT SUB AREAS? YES SO IN THAT VERSION OF THE SCHEME, THEY ARE FRONTING THE PUBLIC ROAD THAT RUNS EAST WEST WAS THE POINT. I WAS GOING TO MAKE THIS MORE SO THE PUBLIC ROAD YES, SO WE WOULD HAVE ON STREET PARKING, IF NEEDED ON THE FRONT, AS OPPOSED TO AN ALLEY OR SOMETHING RUNNING BEHIND, ALTHOUGH I DO BELIEVE THERE'S AN ALLEY THAT DOES RUN BEHIND AS WELL. THERE'S AN ALLEY WITH THE DRIVEWAYS AND THE PRIVATE GARAGES IN THAT VERSION. YES. WHAT HAPPENED ON WALTON PARKWAY? UH WALTON PARKWAY, BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE OTHER GROUP WENT FRONT RIGHT OR THEY THEY BACK UP TO THE FRONT. THE GREEN SPACE THAT IS THE BOTTLE BETWEEN US AND THE C B G BUILDING. SO. SO WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE? THEN AS FAR AS IS THIS IS LAYING OUT TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE FRONTING. THAT'S A GREEN SPACE, SO THEY'RE GONNA HAVE A LITTLE CONFRONTING TOO, AS WELL. ARE WE DRINKING, TAKING A REAL PUBLIC ROAD ON BOTH SIDES OF THEM, AND THEY WILL BE JUST THE FRONT AND GREEN SPACE. SO THEY'RE ONLY ENTRANCE, THEN WOULD BE VIA THE ALLEY. UH PARTICULAR AND THEN THERE WILL BE SIDEWALK CONNECTION ON THE FRONT OF THEIR PROPERTIES. SO IF THEY HAD SOMEONE VISITING, THEY WOULD EITHER HAVE TO MAYBE PARK IN THE ALLEY. IF THERE'S ENOUGH ROOM OR UP ON TOP OF THE PUBLIC ROAD KIND OF WALK AROUND. I WOULD ANTICIPATE THEY WOULD PARK IN THE ALLEY AND THEN THEY WOULD WALK TO THE FRONT OF THE UNIT. I JUST WANTED TO TAKE YOU BACK. I'M SORRY TO MAKE YOU GO BACK AND FORTH THE TOPICS. BUT YOU WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT THE SCHOOL IMPACT NUMBERS, CAN YOU JUST BECAUSE I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE A LOT OF MEETINGS, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYONE'S BEEN TO ALL OF THEM. HOW MANY STUDENTS ARE EXPECTED TO GENERATE FROM YOUR LATEST ITERATION OF THE STUDIES CURRENTLY THE BASED ON THAT CALCULATION, THIS WHAT WE RAN DISTRICT RANDOM CITY RAN. THERE IS NO NET. POSITIVE ADDITION OF STUDENTS COMPARED TO THE EXISTING ZONING. YEAH SO THE NUMBER THE NUMBER THE NUMBER IS 28 STUDENTS UNDER OUR PROJECTION 28 USING REAL WORLD DATA FROM REAL COMMUNITIES THAT THE CITY WORKED IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND THEN UNDER THE CURRENT ZONING. IF YOU USE THE 0.832, I THINK IT WAS A NUMBER THAT IS ACTUALLY BEING GENERATED FROM SINGLE FAMILY HOMES IN NEW ALBANY TODAY THAT

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EVALUATING SUCH A DEVELOPMENT. THAT'S CORRECT CASE IN THIS CASE, UM YOU KNOW, THEY PROVIDED DATA TO THE CITY STAFF, AND THEY CAN SPEAK TO IT MORE THAN I COULD ABOUT. WHAT IS IT? WHAT'S THE REALITY ON THE GROUND, SO TO SPEAK, VERSUS THE ASSUMPTIONS WE MADE ALL THESE YEARS AND AS IT TURNS OUT, PRETTY DARN ACCURATE . WE'VE ALWAYS 7.8 STUDENTS PER SINGLE FAMILY UNIT, FOR INSTANCE, 0.832. AND JUST A FOLLOW UP TO STAFF TO, UM THE DATA CORRECTLY FROM ROLLING THE DATA THAT THE SCHOOL USED WAS BASED OFF OF ACTUAL STUDENTS THAT COME OUT OF SIMILAR TYPE PRODUCTS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. SO WHERE THERE'S THE FLATS, THEY LOOKED AT MARKET IN MAINE, WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT THE TOWN HOMES. THEY LOOKED AT CA'S WICK IN IN RICHMOND, AND EXACTLY HOW MANY STUDENTS ARE COMING OUT OF THAT AND THEN SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND NOT REALLY SURE WHAT THEY WOULD HAVE MADE AS A COMPARISON THERE, BUT IT MIGHT BE JUST ANY SINGLE FAMILY HOME. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY LOOKED AT A SPECIFIC PRODUCT, THIS 0.8 PER SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. SO THE APPLICANT WORKED WITH THE SCHOOL'S CONSULTANT TO FIND THE, UM ANTICIPATED NUMBER OR IN THOSE RATIOS THOSE STUDENTS GENERATED THE CITY STAFF WORKED WITH THE SCHOOLS DIRECTLY AND GOT OUR DATA FROM THE 2022 2023 SCHOOL YEAR. UM SO OUR RATIOS ARE BAD ARE BASED ON, UM THE LIKE OF APARTMENTS AND TOWN HOMES AND SINGLE FAMILY UNITS THAT EXIST. JUST IN NEW ALBANY BECAUSE WE BELIEVE OUR PRODUCTS ARE DIFFERENT THAN OUTSIDE OF ALBANY. BUT OUR DATA DOES SHOW THAT IT'S BELIEVED ABOUT 0.8 STUDENTS PER TRADITIONAL DETACHED SINGLE FAMILY HOME. THE SCHOOLS MAKE ANY STATEMENT. PUBLICLY ABOUT. WHETHER THEY ARE IN FAVOR OR AGAINST THIS DEVELOPMENT, OR THEY THINK THE NUMBERS SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES. SO WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED ANY COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE SCHOOLS . I'M NOT SURE IF THE APPLICANT HAS BEEN GIVEN IS THAT THE SCHOOLS ARE LEAST INFORMALLY SORT OF STATE NEUTRAL AND DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS.

UNDERSTAND THAT THE LAST PROPOSAL THAT WE HAD THE FIRST APPLICATION WAS FILED HERE. WE DIDN'T GET A LETTER OF SUPPORT WHEN FROM DR SAWYER'S WHEN HE WAS ABLE TO DO SO, WITH THAT POLICY HAS CHANGED. AND NOT TO SPEAK FOR THE SCHOOL BOARD. BUT I THINK THERE'S SOME CLEAR INDICATION THEY WANT TO HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THE ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT PICTURE, WHICH I'M SURE ALL OF US DO OVER THE NEXT 10 TO 20 YEARS. UM YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALL DOING A LITTLE BIT OF GUESSING BUTTON UNTIL THE SCHOOLS COULDN'T HAVE A BETTER COMFORT LEVEL WITH WHAT DEVELOPMENT LOOKS LIKE IN THE FUTURE. THEY HAVE TO STAY NEUTRAL AND DEVELOPMENT PLAN DESPITE THE FACT THAT YOU KNOW THAT AS YOU PENCIL OUT THE REVENUE TO THE SCHOOLS ON THIS PROJECT, YOU KNOW, THEY CERTAINLY RECEIVE A LOT OF REVENUE. AND WE JUST HAD A PRESENTATION ON FRIDAY. WE'RE DEVELOPER FROM THE BRIDGE PARK COMMUNITY IN DUBLIN WAS PRESENTING THE FACTS AND FIGURES FROM THEIR DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND CERTAINLY NOT SURPRISED. YOU KNOW, A LARGE AMOUNT OF REVENUE WAS GENERATED FROM THAT PROJECT FOR THE CITY IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. AND THE CONSULTANT SAID REMARKABLY ALMOST 800 UNITS GENERATED 20 STUDENTS, 13 OF WHOM HAD APPARENT LIVING SOMEWHERE ELSE IN THE DISTRICT. AND YOU KNOW WHAT? WE DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY WAY OF KNOWING HOW MANY STUDENTS ARE ACTUALLY LIVING ON THIS PROPERTY TODAY, BUT THERE ARE LIKELY SOME BUT UNDER THE CURRENT ZONING AGAIN, UM IT WOULD BE A YOU KNOW IF WE WERE TO DEVELOP THE HOMES AND A 6 TO $700,000 VALUE, THERE WOULD BE SOME SOME ECONOMIC WIN FOR THE SCHOOLS. A COUPLE $100,000 CAME UP WITH ROUGHLY BUT NOTHING. I MEAN, THIS IS YOU KNOW, VERY LARGE INCREASE OVER THAT WITH THIS PROPOSAL FINANCIALLY FOR THE SCHOOLS AND CLEARLY TODAY, THE VALUES THAT ARE IN PLACE TODAY IS NOT A WINNER FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.

THEY'RE LOSING MONEY ON THE PROPERTY AS IT SITS TODAY. I WAS GONNA SHARE IT DURING THE MY APPLE'S UPDATE LATER, BUT IT GOES PERMANENT. NOW THE SCHOOL BOARD IS CURRENTLY CONTRACTING AT THIRD PARTY TO INVESTIGATE. THEIR ENTIRE GROWTH PLAN WHETHER PRODUCT PROJECTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY UNDERWAY AND POTENTIAL FUTURE PROJECTS, AND THERE'S A LOT OF PARCELS THAT ARE OUTSIDE THE CITY IN NEW ALBANY THAT COULD BE DEVELOPED THAT WE HAVE NOTHING. WE CAN'T PREVENT THAT.

YOU KNOW, THE CITY DOES A LOT AS FAR AS TAKING LAND OUT LIKE TAYLOR FARM. PURCHASED IT TURNED IT INTO A PARK TOOK IT OUT OF THE BANK. WE'VE DONE EIGHT RESTRICTED RESIDENTIAL NOTTINGHAM TRACE WE ARE WORKING CLOSELY WITH THE SCHOOLS TO LIMIT HOW MANY STUDENTS WE PUT IN THERE, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF PARCELS THAT ARE IN PLAIN TOWNSHIP THAT WE CAN'T PROTECT.

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ALL THOSE THINGS NEED TO BE REVIEWED. WE HEARD A LOT ABOUT PEDESTRIAN AND BIKE SAFETY AS A COUNCIL MEMBER. KISS RAISED. THERE ARE ALTERNATE PATHWAYS THAT COULD BE ACCOMPLISHED THROUGH THAT CORRIDOR TO GET FROM THE LINKS TO THE SCHOOL CAMPUS AS SAFELY AS POSSIBLE. WE SHOULD EXPLORE ALL THOSE OPTIONS. UM. ACROSS WALKS, YOU KNOW, MID CROSS MID BLOCK CROSSES, WHICH YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALWAYS VERY MUCH AGAINST, BUT I THINK YOU KNOW COUNSEL WOMEN

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TO TOUCH ON THAT SON OR CHIP DURING THE LAST HEARING, I MENTIONED THE POSSIBILITY OF A TUNNEL UNDER SIX OR FIVE AS STAFF TO PRICE IT OUT FOR US AND UNFORTUNATELY, IT'S $23 MILLION.

SO I'M NOT GONNA SAY IT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN, BUT, UH IT MIGHT BE A PROJECT DOWN THE ROAD, BUT THE KISS FAMILY TUNNEL. YEAH I WOULD BE A REAL SMALL, LITTLE, UH, GIVE ME FOR, YOU KNOW SMALL, YES CROSSING CHANNELS, BUT. AND IF I REALLY THOUGHT THAT, I MEAN , SO, YOU KNOW, I LIVE ABOUT A QUARTER MILE AS THE CROW FLIES FROM MARKETING APARTMENTS. UM SO I WAS IN YOUR SHOES. WE MOVED IN . THOSE WEREN'T THERE AROUND ABOUT THAT MARKET MAIN WASN'T THERE. THE MARKET STREET EXTENSION WASN'T THERE SO I HAD THE SAME CONSTERNATION IN CONCERNS THAT ALL OF YOU AND I SHARING IT. I DIDN'T KNOW I AND FORTUNATELY, THAT PROJECT HAS TURNED OUT. YOU KNOW THE AMENITIES THAT PRIDES I'M VERY GRATEFUL FOR. I WALK BY EVERY DAY INTENTIONALLY. UM AND I WOULD PUSH FOR A ROUNDABOUT AT CENTRAL COLLEGE IN 605 LIKE THAT . THAT WAS A SAFER WAY TO GET THROUGH THAT INTERSECTION, BUT THAT'S MY KIDS RODE THEIR BIKES TO SCHOOL. I HAD THEM AVOID THAT, AND THEY WOULD GO UP TO A SIGNALIZED CROSSINGS BECAUSE I FELT MORE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.

SO AT THIS POINT, I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE RIGHT ANSWER IF SAFETY IS THE ISSUE, I DO WANT TO TOUCH ON IF THIS PASSES I SAW LANGUAGE IN THERE AND SAID, WE WILL START THE PROCESS OF LOWERING THE SPEED LIMIT. IS THE GOAL WOULD YOU KNOW TO MAKE THIS A SAFER INTERSECTION? WHAT IS THE YOU KNOW? IS THAT A GUARANTEED PROCESS PROCESS? IT'S JUST WE HAVE TO START IT OR ARE WE CONFIDENT THAT IT'S GOING TO BE LOWER TO 35? IF THIS IS CASEY D? HMM. SPEED LIMITS ARE ESTABLISHED BY WARRANT BY SPECIFIC CRITERIA IN THE UNIFORM MANUAL OF TRAFFIC CONTROL DEVICES. TIMING IS VERY IMPORTANT. SO IF WE WERE TO DO AND WE CAN DO THIS, WE CAN DO A SPEECH STUDY NEXT WEEK. THE RESULTS THAT YOU MIGHT GET FROM THAT SPEECH STUDY AND WITH THE CURRENT CONDITIONS MAY NOT BE FAVORABLE TO LOWERING THE SPEED LIMIT. AS CONSTRUCTION BEGINS AS CONDITIONS CHANGE. EXCUSE ME. AS THE AS THE ROAD CONFIGURATION CHANGES OUT THERE. AND THAT MAY

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YEAH. AND WE'RE NOT TAKING A VOTE ON THIS RIGHT NOW. JOE GIBSON CLEAR INDICATION THAT EVERYONE ON COUNCIL AND CERTAINLY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC HERE, UM ESSENTIALLY WHATEVER IT'S GOING TO TAKE TO GET THE SPEED LIMIT REDUCED TO 35 MILES AN HOUR WE SHOULD ENDEAVOR TO DO. YEAH THAT'S THREE STUDIES FOR STUDIES. FINE I SUGGEST MAYBE THEY DO ANOTHER BASELINE TEST RIGHT AFTER THE FIRST YEAR WHEN EVERYBODY GOES BACK TO SCHOOL, AND LET'S BASE IT ON TRAFFIC VOLUMES, THEN THAT WILL GIVE US A VERY SOLID INDICATION OF WHAT THE SPEEDS ARE, AND WE CAN GO BACK AND LOOK AT IT PERIODICALLY. IF AS I ASSUME IT'S GOING TO BE UNFAVORABLE.

THEN WE CAN AS THE DEVELOPMENT STARTS TO OCCUR, AND WE CAN. WE CAN DETERMINE THE APPROPRIATE TIME TO DO THE NEXT ONE. OKAY? THANK YOU. SO MUCH QUESTION ABOUT COMMERCIAL SPACE BEEN VERY SPECIFIC ABOUT TYPES OF FLATS AND HOMES AND BEDROOMS AND BATHROOMS WOULD LIKE TO HEAR MORE ABOUT WHAT THE COMMERCIAL SPACE IS GOING TO LOOK AT THE ONE STORY THESE TWO STORIES ARE THESE OFFICES ARE THESE COMMERCIAL RETAIL SPACES? ARE THEY RESTAURANTS? I'D LIKE SOME UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT'S GOING IN HERE BECAUSE IT'S A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF SQUARE FOOTAGE RELATIVE TO HOUSING, AND I'M NOT INTERESTED IN A LOT OF HOUSING BEING BUILT AND NOT HAVE THE EQUIVALENT AMOUNT OF COMMERCIAL THAT'S REQUIRED HERE. AND WHAT THAT WOULD ENTAIL. SO CURRENTLY I THINK THE RATIO WE'RE AT ONE DWELLING UNIT PROVIDES 250 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL SPACE . IN TOTAL. WE'RE PROJECTING SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 42 47,000 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL I WOULD SAY ABOUT 40% 50% OF THAT WILL BE RE PROJECTED OFFICE THAT WOULD BE KIND OF SMALL SCALE PROFESSIONAL OFFICE, BUT WE'RE ALSO GETTING INTEREST FROM KIND OF COWORKING ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE INTERESTED IN COMING IN AND FINDING THESE SORT OF MONETIZED MIXED USE ENVIRONMENTS, THE BALANCE OF THE SQUARE FOOTAGE, YOU KNOW, LITTLE OVER 20,000 SQUARE FEET. THAT WILL BE A COMBINATION OF RESTAURANTS. MAYBE THREE OR FOUR SOME SMALL RETAIL SHOPS AND WE ALSO ALREADY HAVE INTEREST FROM FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS. WHETHER IT'S BANKS OR WEALTH, MANAGEMENT OR FINANCIAL PLANNING OFFICES. JUST AS AN EXAMPLE I WAS WITH STAFF LAST FRIDAY AND I ASKED NOW WHAT THE SQUARE FOOT FOOTAGE OF THIS DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE IN TERMS OF SQUARE FEET AND A GOOD WAY TO ENVISION IT BECAUSE I LIKE THE KIND OF SEE IT. HEIGHT CENTER IS APPROXIMATELY 50,000 SQUARE FEET. OF SPACE AND THIS DEVELOPMENT WOULD BRING IN ABOUT 47,000 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL SPACE. IF YOU LOOK AT THE HEIGHT CENTER TWO STORIES THE SIZE OF THAT BUILDING THAT'S AMOUNT OF COMMERCIAL SPACE. THEREABOUTS THAT WILL BE BROUGHT INTO THIS DEVELOPMENT. NEXT. AND THAT'S CORRECT. AND WHILE WE'RE A LITTLE FLEXIBLE IN THE PLAN, UH , WE'RE KIND OF GOING THROUGH.

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GOING BACK TO SUB AREA FIVE. WE GET TIRED OF ME TALKING MYSELF VERIFYING SO IF YOU WERE TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF UNITS UP TO 35. IS THAT SOMETHING WHERE YOU WOULD CONSIDER MAYBE REDUCING THE NUMBER SAYING SUB AREA THREE, WHICH MIGHT BE ABLE TO EXPAND THAT FOR B AREA FOR GREEN SPACE. UH IF ULTIMATELY THE PLAN WORKED OUT THAT WE PUT 35 THERE WE COULD. WE COULD EXPLORE THAT. THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT I WOULD CONSIDER BECAUSE THAT'S ALSO BORDERING SOME OF THE OTHER COMMUNITY RIGHT THERE AT THE ENCLAVE, AND THAT MIGHT BE A BETTER PLACE FOR MORE GREEN SPACE IF WE'RE ACTUALLY THINKING ABOUT MAYBE CONNECTIVITY OVER THERE, TOO, AS WELL, JUST A THOUGHT. I THINK WE CAN EXPLORE THAT. WE INTENDED TO HAVE THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL ALONG THE EAST EDGE AND AGAIN THAT STREAM COURT ORDER. THAT WITH THERE IS, UH A BIT WIDER THAN THE OTHER RIGHT? OKAY? RIGHT ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL AT THIS POINT TO THE APPLICANT? TO RESERVE MY RIGHT ASPECT QUESTIONS. I'M SURE THERE. YEAH, DON'T DON'T GET TOO COMFORTABLE. YOU'LL BE BACK UP, BUT I THOUGHT THAT WAITING A LONG TIME. SO YEAH. ALRIGHT FOLKS AGAIN. THANK YOU FOR MUCH FOR YOUR PATIENTS. UM, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. SORRY. LET ME GET MY NOTES IN FRONT OF ME HERE. THE GAVEL. THAT'S THE SPEAKERS CARDS. I'M LOOKING FOR MY AGENDA. YEAH, I'M SORRY. LET ME JUST CALL THIS ONE. ALL RIGHT.

WE'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC MEDIA OR PUBLIC HEARING ON ORDINANCE 40 2022. THE CLERK HAS PROVIDED ME WITH THE SPEAKER CARDS AND AGAIN IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN SPEAKING ON THIS TOPIC, AND WE WOULD ASK THAT YOU FILL OUT A CARD WILL DO OUR VERY BEST. TO CALL YOU IN WHICH EQUAL THE ORDER IN WHICH THEY WERE RECEIVED BY THE CLERK. I'LL SORT OF DO THE WHO'S UP NEXT AND WHO'S ON DECK SO THAT NEXT PERSON CAN BE PREPARED. AGAIN JUST A FRIENDLY REMINDER. TRY TO KEEP YOUR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES OR LESS. RIGHT NOW. WE HAVE LOOKS LIKE ABOUT 17 SPEAKER CARDS. UM BUT AGAIN, I DON'T WANT TO CUT ANYONE OFF. WHAT WE'LL BE THIS AS LONG AS WE NEED TO BE. BUT IF THINGS START TO BECOME REPETITIVE, ALL THIS KINDLY ASKED TO SHORTEN YOUR COMMENTS. BUT WITH THAT MIND THE FIRST SPEAKER SPEAKER CARD IS PATRICIA SPANGLER. TRICIA HERE.

PATRICK, I'M SORRY. OKAY HE'S HE ACTUALLY GOING TO TAKE CREDIT FOR THIS ONE? BECAUSE YOUR HANDWRITING IS AS BAD AS MINE. I JUST HAD ONE. UH, QUESTION. UM I JUST WANT TO LET EVERYONE KNOW

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AND WE HAD A QUESTION BECAUSE I KNOW THAT IT'S GONNA BE LIGHTS JUST KIND OF WORRIED ABOUT HOW BRIGHT THE LIGHTS ARE WHEN YOU GET ROOFING. YOU SEE HOW TREMENDOUSLY BRIGHT. THAT IS THAT'S THAT'S OUR CONCERN. AND I ALSO SINCE SINCE SITTING STANDING HERE. UM AND LISTENING.

I'M ALSO WORRIED ABOUT I'M NOT SEEING ANY PLAYGROUNDS AND I KNOW I GOT A FEELING PEOPLE WILL PROBABLY WANDER OVER AND USED OUR PLAYGROUNDS OVER THERE. YEAH I JUST ALSO AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT I KNOW OUR AREA. UM IF IT'S HIGH CERTIFICATES, HIGH SCHOOL, THEY HAVE TO WALK. KEEP THAT IN MIND, SO THERE WILL NOT BE ANY YOU KNOW, BUS STOPS FOR HIGH SCHOOLERS, AND I'M NOT SURE ABOUT MIDDLE SCHOOL. UM SO. I'M PROBABLY I RIDE MY BIKE TO SCHOOL EVERY YOU KNOW, WITH MY SON EVERY DAY AND WE GET, YOU KNOW, LIKE DROPPING OFF SCHOOL.

SO I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT AND ALSO WATCH OUT FOR THE PEOPLE WRITING YOUR GOLF CARTS TRAILS. AND. NO ONE WRITES GOLF CARTS ON THE TRAILS, RIGHT, WENDY YEAH. AND UH. I'VE TALKED TO SEVERAL PEOPLE, I'D RATHER HAVE NEIGHBORS THAN BAR. BECAUSE I WAS AGAINST THE BAR, RIGHT? MHM MHM. EVERYTHING THAT AND I'VE SEEN THEIR PAST PRODUCTS. I'M SORRY. HIS PAST PRODUCTS, SO I'M I'M MORE FOR AND I'M LIKE WITH THE MAYOR. DEVELOPMENT IS COMING. IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN AND TELLS MOVING IN. THEY'RE GONNA WANT MORE HOUSES, SO I'D RATHER HAVE SOME INPUT ON WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD THEIR AND AS LONG AS THE RESTAURANT AND EVERYTHING ELSE IS ON THE OTHER SIDE. I'M MORE OR LESS FOR IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, PATRICK. APPRECIATE IT. I'M SORRY. I FORGOT TO GIVE THE WHO'S UP NEXT. UM, JUST A QUESTION ABOUT THE LINING. APOLOGIES, AND IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE I WAS ON PLANNING COMMISSION, BUT BUT HE CANNOT BLEED OFF OF THIS PROPERTY CORRECT. SO TYPICALLY, WE WOULD, AS PART OF A FINAL COMPLAINT PROCESS PROCEEDED PHOTO METRIC PLAN, WHICH DOES SHOW UM THE CANDLELIGHT KIND OF FOOT INTENSITY OF THE PROPERTY LINES . YES, WE MONITOR THAT IS PART OF THE REVIEW PROCESS. I MEAN, I THINK ALL OF US SERVED ON PLANNING COMMISSION ONE WAY OR ANOTHER OVER. KIRBY WILL NOT DEFINITELY SPENT SOME TIME TALKING ABOUT LIGHT POLLUTION. UM AND AGAIN, THE STANDARD IS, YOU KNOW, IT'S HOW MUCH LIGHT ACTUALLY LEAVES THE FACILITY. YOU CAN STILL VISUALLY SEE IT. I MEAN, IT IS LIGHT, BUT HOW MUCH OF IT IS ACTUALLY LEAVING THE AREA AND WE WORKED VERY CAREFULLY ON THE DOWNCAST LIGHTING. AND THAT WOULD BE CERTAINLY AN ELEMENT HERE. I DO . I DO WONDER ABOUT THE FACILITIES NEXT DOOR. YOU KNOW THE WALGREENS THAT TACO BELL, THE HUNTINGTON'S BANK. I DON'T MEAN THOSE THE STREET LIGHTS ON THAT PART OF THE ROAD ARE VERY BRIGHT. UM SO I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT THAT THAT GETS SORT OF FLOODED OUT ANYWAY. ALRIGHT I'M SORRY UP NEXT IS STEVE SEAGAL, STEVE. AND AFTER STEVE, WE HAVE SHELLEY HUFFMAN, MR SIEGEL, AND FOR THOSE AS YOU COME UP, PLEASE REPEAT YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS INTO THE MICROPHONE FOR THE REPORTING. SIEGEL 71, 90 SUMPTION DRIVE. NEW ALBANY, OHIO. WE GOT A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT AND I DON'T WANT IT TO GO AGAINST MY TIME. IS THAT OKAY ? OKAY THAT'S A FAIR REQUEST. BECAUSE HE'LL USE ALL THREE MINUTES. YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MIXED USE HERE AND YOU KNOW, WE WERE TALKING A LOT ABOUT THE RESIDENTIAL PORTION OF THE PROJECT, BUT WE REALLY HAVEN'T HEARD WHAT THIS IS GOING TO BE. FROM A VISION STANDPOINT . YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST HEARING MIXED USE. SO I THINK IT'S ONLY FAIR THAT THE APPLICANT COME UP HERE AND I KNOW THEY WANT TO SAY WHAT THE MARKET BEARS YOU KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO GO IN THERE, BUT WE'RE NOT REALLY DOING THIS TO COME UP WITH WHAT THE MARKET BEARS. THERE HAS TO BE A VISION THERE HAS TO BE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN RELATE TO THAT WE CAN

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OBVIOUSLY THE MARKET'S GOING TO DICTATE WHAT THAT IS, BUT IF WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT RESTAURANTS, I MEAN, THAT'S A VAGUE CATEGORY. AND I THINK WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OUR ONE AND ONLY HAMLET IN THE COMMUNITY YOU KNOW? I WANT TO HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT WHAT THIS IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE FROM A RESTAURANT STANDPOINT. WHAT WHAT THIS TOWN GREEN IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE WITH. THE DISCUSSION OF FOOD TRUCKS. I MEAN, THE LAST THING I WANT TO HAVE HERE IS A IS THE COUNTY FAIR AT CENTRAL COLLEGE AND 605 WITH THE FOOD TRUCK PARK. AND THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE. IF THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FROM A COMMERCIAL STANDPOINT, THEN I DON'T KNOW WHY WE'RE TALKING AT ALL. SO IF PLEASE PLEASE COME UP HERE AND TALK TO US ABOUT WHAT THIS COMMERCIAL IS GOING TO BE. GIVE US SOME EXAMPLES OF THE TYPES OF RESTAURANTS THAT YOU THINK YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO ACHIEVE THE COME HERE. BASED ON IT BEING THE LOCATION OF CENTRAL COLLEGE IN 605, WHICH IN MY PROFESSIONAL OPINION AS A REAL ESTATE RETAIL, YOU KNOW, I DO A LOT OF RESTAURANT WORK. I ACTUALLY THINK THE LOCATION COMPLETELY SUCKS. PERIOD TERRIBLE LOCATION FOR TRYING TO ATTRACT THE TYPES OF RESTAURANTS THAT I ENVISIONED LIKE HUDSON, 29, OR EVEN RUSTY BUCKET. I'M NOT EVEN SURE IF YOU PRESENTED THIS SITE TO RUSTY BUCKET, THEY WOULD GO THERE. SO I MEAN, I WANT TO HEAR WHAT THESE GUYS WERE THINKING, AND I THINK IT'S FAIR THAT THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO ADDRESS EVERYBODY ABOUT WHAT THE VISION IS FOR THIS COMMERCIAL PORTION. THANKS. UH YOU KNOW, A GOOD QUESTION. UM I'LL LET THE APPLICANT TRIED TO RESPOND TO IT. THIS OBVIOUSLY IS A ZONING HEARING. SO, YOU KNOW, FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN. CERTAINLY DON'T EXPECT ALL OF THOSE DETAILS TO BE SHARED WITH US, UM AND AGAIN REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR YOUR VIEWPOINT EXPERIENCE ON THE STEVE. UM YOU KNOW, THAT'S ONE OF THE GREAT THINGS ABOUT LIVING. THIS COMMUNITY HAVE SO MANY TALENTED PEOPLE WITH DIFFERENT EXPERIENCES THAT BRING THAT TO THE TABLE AND THESE CONVERSATIONS, SO REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR POINT OF VIEW. MR UNDERHILL, IF YOU CAN ADDRESS THAT. UM. LOOKING FOR AARON, WILL YOU? YOU'RE SO TALL, UM SO I WANTED TO PULL THIS SLIDE UP TO GIVE YOU A SORT OF A VISION FOR THE CIVIC GREEN. AND YOU KNOW, THESE ARE CHARACTER IMAGES . WE MENTIONED THE SORT OF NEWER , SMALLER PART OF THE NEWER PART OF THE EAST IN THAT LITTLE PARK THERE THAT REALLY GENERATES A LOT OF ACTIVITY, BUT WE FEEL LIKE THIS WILL BE THE HUB OF THIS COMMUNITY. AND REALLY, YOU KNOW, WE MENTIONED FOOD TRUCKS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. I DON'T EXPECT THERE TO BE FOOD TRUCKS OUT HERE. ALL DAY EVERY DAY. YOU KNOW, WE INTEND TO, YOU KNOW, SEE, HAVE EVENTS HERE. MAYBE A LITTLE FESTIVALS, MARKETS. THINGS LIKE THAT TO HELP ACTIVATE EVERYTHING. SO UM, YOU KNOW, I'LL LET JUSTIN COME UP HERE AND SPEAK A LITTLE BIT MORE TO WHO THEY EXPECT THE MARKET TO. OBVIOUSLY REASONABLE MINDS CAN DIFFER. I'LL SAY THAT THIS PARTICULAR APPLICANT HAS A LOT OF EXPERIENCE IN THIS FIELD. SO, UM YOU KNOW, BE TOUGH TO IMAGINE THAT THEY GO THIS FAR. BE TOUGH TO GO THIS WE WOULDN'T HAVE COME THIS FAR AND BEEN AT THIS FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS. WE DIDN'T BELIEVE IN IT. SO WE'RE BULLISH ON THIS. WE FEEL IT IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN THE VILLAGE CENTER, WHICH IS MORE CIVIC. AND THIS IS WHERE CITY HALL AND LIBRARY AND THE SCHOOLS AND THE ALL THOSE COMPONENTS ARE RELATED . WE ARE GOING TO SERVE THE NEIGHBORHOODS UP THERE, BUT WE'RE ALSO GOING TO SERVE THE BUSINESS PARK AND I THINK I THINK BACK TO A COMMENT THAT YOU HAVE ANY COMPANY MENTIONED THAT THEY WERE EXCITED THAT THIS WAS COMING UP THERE TO ALSO SUPPORT THE NEEDS OF THE BUSINESS PARK. STEINER YOU KNOW ONE THING WE ARE VERY GOOD AT IS CURATING A RETAIL MIX. THAT'S WHAT WE DO AT EASTERN AND WE DO IT IN. NOT ONLY ONE PART OF THE EASTERN, WE HAVE TWO CHEERY, EACH LITTLE SEPARATE SECTION OF EASTERN IN A DIFFERENT WAY IN A DIFFERENT CHARACTERS AND DIFFERENT STYLE. WE DO WORK DOWN AT OHIO STATE ON MULTIPLE CAMPUSES. WE WORK DOWN INSIDE THE PENINSULA. SO LEASING . AS I'M SURE YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT EASY. AND IN TODAY'S ENVIRONMENT , IT'S AS MUCH YOU HAVE TO FIND REALLY GOOD OPERATORS WHO ARE REALLY GOOD. TAKE RESTAURANTS.

YOU FIND SOMEONE WHO'S REALLY GOOD AT MAKING FOOD. AND THEN YOU PROVIDE THEM A PLATFORM TO HAVE A BRICK AND MORTAR OPERATIONS. SO YOU KNOW, WE ARE LOOKING AT WORKING WITH SOME WELL KNOWN LOCAL OPERATORS WHO HAVE EXPRESSED INTEREST ARE CHALLENGED CANDIDLY FOR ME TO COME OUT AND SAY WE HAVE THIS COMPANY OR THIS OPERATOR THAT OPERATOR THERE IS A. I WOULD SAY A LITTLE LACK OF CONFIDENCE OF WHAT'S HAPPENING, AND I MEAN SOME OF HIS COMMENTS RIGHT THERE, THAT THIS IS A HORRIBLE LOCATION. AND THAT'S NOT EXACTLY WHAT WE WANT ON OUR MARKETING

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WE'VE HAD COLD CALLS FROM NUMEROUS OPERATORS, SO IT'S GOING TO TREND LOCAL. IT'S GOING TO TRY AND RESTAURANT BUT THERE'LL BE A FEW FOLKS ALONG THE STREET. THEY MAY HAVE MORE OF A, UM THEY WERE ORIENTATION. BUT THE CIVIC GREEN WILL BE KIND OF CURATED BY OUR TEAM. I HAVE A QUESTION, AND I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO WHAT IF A RESTAURANT IF YOU THINK YOU CAN GET A RESTAURANT AND IT IT PULLS OUT. IS IT A RACE TO THE BOTTOM? THEN YOU KNOW IS IT DOES DOES DOES THE FAILURE OF YOU KNOW TO BE ABLE TO GET LIKE A BESPOKE RESTAURANT MEAN THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME CRAPPY PLACE OR I MEAN, WHAT IS THE ANALYSIS THERE? MAYBE MAYBE YOU CAN EVEN USE AN EXAMPLE OF THE TIME THAT YOU WORK THROUGH SOMETHING LIKE THAT EVERY TIME SO UM. 95% OF DEVELOPERS ARE DRIVEN BY NO OFFENSIVE ACCOUNTANTS. BUT WE HAVE A LOT OF ACCOUNTS IN OUR GROUP, WHICH IS GREAT. YOU'RE DRIVEN BY THE BOTTOM LINE TO WHAT IS THE REVENUE COMING IN? WE ARE VERY MUCH STRATEGICALLY MINDED, SO WE WILL LEAVE STRATEGIC VACANCY. EASTERN OR OTHER PROJECTS TO ENSURE WE HAVE THE RIGHT PERSON BECAUSE WE'RE NOT LOOKING FOR A RACE TO THE BOTTOM. WE'RE ALWAYS TRYING TO KEEP RISING, RISING, RISING INTO ACHIEVE THAT YOU NEED TO KIND OF SET THE RIGHT TONE, AND IT'S BETTER JUST TO NOT LEASE IT OR PUT IN A YOUR OWN CONCEPT AS A TEMPORARY UNTIL YOU GET THE ONES YOU WANT. IT IS THIS PROJECT FINANCIALLY READY TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT? I MEAN TO BE TOTALLY CANDID. THE RETAIL AND RESTAURANT SPACES HERE THEY ARE NOT BREE REVENUE AND WEALTH GENERATORS FOR US IN ANY WAY. THEY ARE AN AMENITY, WHICH HELPS DRIVE. THE PRICES ON THE RESIDENTIAL AND I'D SAY THAT'S CONSISTENT ACROSS THE COUNTRY RIGHT NOW, AND A LOT OF RETAIL CENTERS. YOU KNOW, IT'S YOU YOU WANT THEM BECAUSE IT BRINGS WHETHER MORE OFFICE TENANTS, MORE PROFESSIONALS OR MORE RESIDENTS WHO ARE WILLING TO PAY A HIGHER NUMBER AND WE'RE HEARING IT ACROSS THE BOARD FOLKS THAT ARE COMING INTO THE MARKET. YOU KNOW THEY'RE LOOKING FOR THESE ENVIRONMENTS SPECIFICALLY, AND THEY'RE WILLING TO PAY THE YOU KNOW THE PRICE IF THEY HAVE THOSE AMENITIES AND THE RESTAURANTS AND CLOSE WALKING DISTANCE THANK YOU. WHAT KIND OF RENTS ARE YOU LOOKING AT? JUSTIN? I DON'T HAVE A EXACT NUMBER COMPARABLE TO MARKET CENTER, OR I WOULD SAY, ARE YOU WILLING TO SUBSIDIZE TWO GET? WE ARE WILLING TO SUBSIDIZE TWO GET TENANTS. AND THAT'S NOT YEAH, THAT'S IT'S NOT TOTALLY UNCOMMON. I SHOULDN'T. I'M SURE BEFORE THE OFFICER LISTENING AND SAYING NO, NO, NO. AND, UH, MR TAYLOR MEETING FOR THE MARKETING PACKAGE WHEN THEY SAY HE'S NOT A GREAT SPOT, AND NOW I'M SAYING WE'RE GOING TO SUBSIDIZE RENT, BUT DISAGREE. BUT YES, WE YOU KNOW, RENTS ARE DICTATED BY A HOW MUCH VOLUME THEY CAN DO SO THAT'S IMPORTANT, THEN TO FIND THE BEST OPERATORS, SO THEY'RE DOING THE BEST VOLUMES SO THAT WE CAN RECAPTURE THAT RENT. BUT THEN IT'S ALSO IT'S A STRATEGIC DECISION. ALRIGHT. THANKS, SIR. 15 SECONDS LEFT. THANKS. THANKS FOR YOUR EXPLANATION. YOU KNOW, I STILL FEEL LIKE WE HAVE VISIONS OF GRANDEUR, AND WHEN YOU START TALKING ABOUT AMENITIES UM, I THINK THE BAR IS SET LOWER. I MEAN, I KNOW ANDREA THINKS THAT THERE'S A GOOD CHANCE WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET THE PEARL THERE AND THAT WOULD BE THAT WOULD BE FANTASTIC. BUT I WOULD BET A LOT OF LOT OF MONEY EVEN IF THEY PAID FOR EVERYTHING THAT THE PAROLE WOULD REQUIRE THAT THEY WOULD PROBABLY PASS. UM SO I JUST FEEL LIKE THAT. YOU KNOW WHAT PEOPLE ARE THINKING THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET AND WHAT WHAT'S REALLY GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE COMMUTE IN THIS PROJECT IS GOING TO BE WAY DIFFERENT, AND I JUST WANT TO POINT TO AN EXAMPLE. UM IF YOU LOOK AT HAMILTON'S QUARTER AND YOU LOOK AT THE TRAFFIC GENERATORS THAT HAMILTON'S QUARTER WITH THE OHIO STATE UNIVERSITY BIG HOSPITAL SYSTEM TARGET BJ'S WHOLESALE CLUB. UM THE FAIRFIELD INN HOTEL, THE OFFICE BUILDING BIGLOTS OFFICES 1 61, WITH ALL THAT TRAFFIC, MAJOR ROAD IMPROVEMENTS FOR HAMILTON'S ROAD AND LET'S TALK ABOUT WHAT WE'RE SEEING THERE FROM A RESTAURANT PERSPECTIVE AND LET ME KNOW IF YOU LIKE ANY OF THESE IN THE HAMLET. UM CHILIES. I DECIDED TONIGHT ACTUALLY, WHAT CHILD TONIGHT? SORRY, STEVE. GOOD TO LIE. UH

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THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER THINGS THAT IN THE ZONING TAX, I THINK NEED TO BE REVIEWED, UM SUCH THINGS AS GHOSTS, KITCHENS AND SPECIAL EVENTS CENTERS. DO WE REALLY WANT A GHOST KITCHEN, WHICH IS A PLACE THAT'S NOT OPEN TO THE PUBLIC THAT MAKES MEALS THAT THEY CAN DELIVER SOMEWHERE ? WHAT KIND OF ACTIVITY IS THAT GOING TO GENERATE? I'M NOT SURE WHY THAT'S IN THE TEXT. WE WANT GHOST KITCHENS WE REALLY WANT A SPECIAL EVENT VENUE THAT TRAFFIC NIGHTMARE WHEN ALL THE PEOPLE COME AT ONE TIME, AND THEN THEY ALL LEAVE AT THE SAME TIME. TALK ABOUT A TRAFFIC NIGHTMARE ON SIX OR FIVE WITH A SPECIAL EVENT CENTER. WE SHOULD ELIMINATE SPECIAL EVENT CENTER. WE'RE NOT THINKING WE'RE JUST NOT THINKING STRATEGICALLY ACCEPTED THIS FROM THE BEGINNING. WE ARE RUSHING.

WE ARE NOT BEING WHAT NEW ALBANY IS IN THE CAREFUL STRATEGIC PLANNING. WE NEED TO TAKE A PAUSE. WE NEED TO STEP BACK. WE NEED TO VALUE EIGHT. THE CRITERIA. WE NEED TO EVALUATE THE LOCATION WHERE WE'RE PUTTING THIS ONE AND ONLY HAMLET. AND FIGURE OUT THIS IMPORTANT TYPE OF I AM IN FAVOR OF THE HAMLET IN THE APPROPRIATE LOCATION. I'M NOT HERE TO SAY WE SHOULD NOT DO A HAMLET. I BELIEVE IN DEVELOPMENT DEVELOPMENTS COMING , BUT IT SHOULD BE COMING IN THE RIGHT LOCATION. AND WITH THE RIGHT CRITERIA. THIS IS NOT BEEN THOUGHT THROUGH. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, SIR. JUST A COUPLE OF QUICK COMMENTS AND WE'LL HAVE OUR NEXT SPEAKER. YOU KNOW A LOT OF THE RETAIL ESTABLISHMENTS THAT YOU DID MENTION OR OUTSIDE NEW ALBANY THERE IN COLUMBUS, AND WE HAVE NO CONTROL OVER WHAT HAMILTON'S QUARTER GIANT EAGLE KROGER. I'M JUST I'M JUST POINTING OUT THAT THOSE ARE OUTSIDE OUR CONTROL. UM I'M SORRY YOU HAD A CHANCE TO TALK NOW IT'S MY TURN. OKAY? I APPRECIATE IT. UM AS FAR AS YOU KNOW, THERE ARE A LOT OF COMMENTS ABOUT THIS COMPETING WITH THE VILLAGE CENTER. UM REST ASSURED THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER THAT OWNS ALL OF THE LAND IN THE VILLAGE CENTER, UM, DOESN'T FEEL THAT THIS IS A COMPETITION AND THEY ARE VIGOROUSLY MOVING FORWARD ON DEVELOPMENT PLANS. UM THE CITY HAS WORKED VERY CLOSELY WITH THAT DEVELOPER OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. OBVIOUSLY THE PANDEMIC IS SLOWING DOWN THE PACE OF SOME OF THIS WORK. UM, BUT WE WANT TO, YOU KNOW, BUILD SOME ROAD NETWORKS. WE WANT TO PUT IN SOME PARKING STRUCTURES. WE WANT TO GET AHEAD OF THE DEVELOPMENT BEFORE IT GETS HERE.

BUT THERE'S NO DOUBT IN THE COMING YEARS THAT ALL OF THE LAND THAT'S SITTING BEHIND CVS WILL BE DEVELOPED AND CAMERON MITCHELL IS GOING TO BE CLAMORING TO COME AND HAVE ANOTHER RESTAURANT IN THE VILLAGE CENTER BECAUSE OF THE DENSITY AND THE RETAIL OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE RIGHT IN THE CENTER OF TOWN. SO YOU KNOW, DON'T DON'T THINK THAT THIS HAMLET IF IT'S APPROVED, IS IN ANY WAY GOING TO COMPETE WITH THE VILLAGE CENTER, BECAUSE IT'S NOT ONLY DISAGREE. I RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE. ALRIGHT. NEXT SPEAKER SHELLY HOFFMAN. SHALL I REPEAT YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND GO AHEAD AND PULL THAT MICROPHONE. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, SHELLY HOFFMAN. UH SNYDER LOOP, AND I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT OF NEW ALBANY SINCE 98 ALRIGHT BUSTING AND TRAFFIC IMPACTS ON THE SCHOOL RIGHT NOW. THE

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CAN ANYBODY ANSWER THAT? YEAH THE CITY COUNCIL UPDATED THE STRATEGIC PLAN TO REDUCE THE DENSITY INCREASED THE COMMERCIAL SPACE INCREASED THE PARK SPACE, AND THAT WAS CERTAINLY IN REACTION TO ONE OF THE FOLKS IN THIS ROOM. IT WAS CERTAINLY A COLLABORATIVE PROCESS. TO AGAIN ELIMINATE THE OTHER HAMLET AS WELL. I THINK I GOT THAT, RIGHT? YEAH WERE THERE PEOPLE ADDED TO THE SUBCOMMITTEE'S FROM NORTH OF THERE WAS NO SUBCOMMITTEE. IT WAS JUST THE STAFF AT THE DIRECTION OF COUNSEL TO TAKE FEEDBACK FROM THE FIRST TIME THE COMMUNITY CORRECT, YEAH. BACK FROM THE FIRST TIME THIS WENT THROUGH. OKAY, UM I HEARD TONIGHT. THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, MOST PROBABLY REMOVAL ASSISTED LIVING FROM THE ONE SUB AREA DOWN NEAR THE CREEK. WHICH ONE OF THE THINGS FOR THE HAMLET WAS THAT THERE WOULD BE A LIVING PLACE OR AGENT PLACE PART OF THAT. WHOLE HAMLET PROCESS THAT MAY BE ELIMINATED COMPLETELY. UNDER WHAT WE HEARD ON PAGE 42 OF THE. OF THE DOCUMENT. IT SAYS THAT PAGE 42. THE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL WAS ONLY, UH, APPROVED BY 3% OF THE RESIDENTS AND NEXT YEAR'S BY ONLY 1. WHICH THIS HAMLET IS A PART OF SO THAT IS GOING AGAINST THE GRAIN. AND THEN FINALLY. UM FOR THE MR UNDERWOOD OR ARE REPRESENTED FROM STAINER. WITH ALL THIS DIVERSE BUILDING STOCK AND USES WORD. WHAT OTHER LOCATIONS AND.

ACTUAL ACREAGE SIZE. WHERE THE HAMLETS THAT YOU TOOK A LOOK ATL STRATEGIC PLAN THAT IDENTIFIED THAT AS THE LOCATION. WE SELECTED THAT ONE. I THINK THAT WAS PARTIALLY DRIVEN. AH THE SURROUNDING USES HAVING TACO BELL AND THE BANK DISCOVERY CAMPUS ACROSS THE STREET RESIDENTIAL. WE FELT THE HAMLET WAS THE BEST OPTION TO SORT OF. WE'VE ALL THOSE USES TOGETHER

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AS WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN THERE? AND WE SHOULD DEVELOP OUR MARKET SQUARE FURTHER. SO I URGE YOU NOT TO PROVE THIS REQUEST. THANK YOU, DAD. AND I APPRECIATE YOUR LONGSTANDING SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY AND THE ROCKY FORD BLACKWOOD ACCORD, SIR. CAROLINE AND THEN NEXT IS COURTNEY. WHAT'S BEEN SPENT NATURAL LAST NAME BLOCK. THANK YOU, COURTNEY.

MY NAME IS CAROLINE SALT AND I LIVE AT 54 30 SNYDER LOOP IN THE ENCLAVE. FIRST OFF. I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE SOME OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS AS WHAT WELLS MAYOR SPAULDING CONFIRMING THEIR SUPPORT AND HELP THEM MAINTAIN THE ENCLAVE, PLAYGROUND AND WALKING BRIDGE. AS AN ENCLAVE TRUSTEE MEMBER OBVIOUSLY CONCERNED ABOUT NOT ONLY ITS EXISTING STATE, BUT ALSO THE THREAT OF OVERUSE OF THIS PROJECT IS PASSED KNOWING THAT NO PLAYGROUNDS ARE CURRENTLY PLANNED IN THE HAMLET. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO CONNECTING WITH COUNSEL TO CONTINUE WORKING THROUGH THOSE CONCERNS AND RECOMMEND PUSHING THE APPLICANT ON INCLUDING A TRADITIONAL PLAYGROUND IN THE PLANT. IN SPEAKING OF OTHER CONCERNS FOR THE ENCLAVE. I ALSO WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THE CURRENT PROBLEMS THAT MY NEIGHBOR'S FACE WITH TURNING LEFT OUT OF OUR COMMUNITY ON A DAILY BASIS. THE ENCLAVE HAS 43 HOMES AND 62 CHILDREN, MANY OF WHICH ARE PRE K TO THIRD GRADE. I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THE TOOTH AT THE 2022 TRAFFIC STUDY FOR THIS PROJECT WAS DONE DURING THE HOURS OF 7 TO 9 A.M. CURRENTLY PRE K TO K HAS A START. TIME OF 9 20 IN GRADES ONE THROUGH THREE START AT 9 15. THIS MEANS THAT A MAJORITY OF OUR MORNING PEAK TRAFFIC WASN'T EVEN CAPTURED IN THE STUDY. AS A MEMBER OF THE ENCLAVE. OH, ABOARD. I FEEL STRONGLY THAT A HAMLET IN THIS LOCATION WILL SIGNIFICANTLY IMPACT TRAFFIC FOR OUR COMMUNITY , AND CERTAINLY WARRANT AND SIGNIFICANT INFRASTRUCTURE UPDATES IN ADDITION TO THAT REDUCTION IN SPEED LIMIT I'M A PROUD MEMBER OF THE NEW ALBANY COMMUNITY AND APPRECIATE ALL THE STRATEGY THAT OUR LEADERS PUT INTO THIS PLANNED NEIGHBORHOOD. I'M NOT AGAINST A HAMLET AND I UNDERSTAND THAT CHANGE IS COMING TO NEW ALBANY. I JUST ASKED FOR THE SAME AMOUNT OF THOUGHT AND STRATEGY TO SUPPORT THAT CHANGE, AS WE HAVE DONE FOR YEARS. THANK YOU, CAROLINE. THANK YOU. YOU SPEAK TO HER POINT ABOUT A PLAYGROUND? YEAH. WHAT WHAT OPPORTUNITIES WE HAVE FOR THAT IN THE HEADLINE. SURE. UH YES, YOU KNOW, SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAPPENS WITH THE PERIOD ES IN SUCH AN ITERATIVE PROCESS, RIGHT, AND WE'VE GOT A RELATIVELY LARGE PIECE OF PROPERTY HERE, UM AND A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS GOING ON, SO I ANTICIPATE IN MR KIRBY SAID, THE EXPECTATION FOR US THAT THE DEVIL'S IN THE DETAILS HERE ON A LOT OF THINGS WHEN WE GO THROUGH THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN. I ASSUME THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THESE RESIDENTS AND NEIGHBORS WILL SHOW UP TO THOSE MEETINGS AND WERE COMMITTED TO DOING WHAT'S RIGHT AND EVERYBODY'S INTEREST IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY WANT TO SEE HAPPEN THERE. THAT'S A PLAYGROUND. WE'LL PUT A PLAYGROUND THERE. I MEAN IT LITTLE BIT COUNTERINTUITIVE, THOUGH, THAT WE DON'T WANT SCHOOLCHILDREN. UM SO I MEAN, YOU GET SCHOOLCHILDREN IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, OBVIOUSLY TO THE SOUTH, BUT THESE ARE ALL THINGS TO BE WEIGHED. RIGHT? UM ARE WE ENCOURAGING THAT GOING TO BE A COMMUNITY PLACE FOR THE COMMUNITY TO GATHER SHORTLY? BE NICE FOR SOME TYPE OF COMMITMENT. IF THIS DOES PASS THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A PLAYGROUND LOCATED IN THAT SITE . IN ADDITION TO WHAT CAN HAPPEN OVER ON THE END CLUB AND INCLUDES SITE ENCLAVES, 28 KIDS , THEY GOTTA PLAY SOMEWHERE. THAT'S RIGHT. UM SO I'VE BEEN IN STEINER 18 YEARS. WE'VE NEVER DONE A PROJECT WITH AN EXTERIOR PLAYGROUND. WE ALWAYS DESIGN OUR PUBLIC SPACES IN A WAY THAT ATTRACT AND, YOU KNOW, DRAW FAMILIES IN THEM. WE HAVE WONDERFUL TRAIN SETS AT EASTERN . WE HAVE DANCING BEAR FOUNTAINS AND CINCINNATI WE HAVE FROG FOUNTAIN THAT KIDS CAN PUSH BUTTONS AND THEY SPIT WATER AND THEY DO ALL SORTS OF STUFF. THE NEW PARK NORTH OF EASTERN HAS SWINGS AND A STAGE. SO TRADITIONALLY WHEN WE HAVE EXECUTED OUR PLACE MAKING STRATEGY, IT IS INCLUDED COMPONENTS AND LANDSCAPE DESIGN FEATURES THAT ATTRACT AND FAMILIES WOULD WE CONSIDER A PLAYGROUND? WE CAN CERTAINLY EXPLORE THAT GROUND OR SOMETHING

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THEY'RE ON THEIR WAY TO AND FROM SCHOOL OR, YOU KNOW, VISIT AROUND THERE, SO THERE HAS TO BE SOME SORT OF YOU KNOW? YEAH SIZZLE TO MAKE PEOPLE WANT TO BE AN AMENITY. IN ADDITION TO THE HAMMER, AND IT ALSO HAS TO BE AMENITY TO THE FAMILIES THAT LIVED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF 1 61 UNDERSTOOD AND I THINK I THINK THE WAY THE QUESTION WAS PHRASED AS LOW CONFUSING, BUT I THINK ENGAGING WITH THE COMMUNITY AND MAKING HAVING ACTIVE COMPONENTS IS GOING TO BE VERY IMPORTANT. I THINK YOU KNOW ALL THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS WE'VE MET WITH MEMBERS OF THE RESIDENTS OF THE LINKS NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE ENCLAVE. I THINK BASED ON WHAT WE'RE HEARING THROUGH THIS PROCESS, FIRST THING WE'RE GONNA WANT TO DO IS SIT DOWN WITH THE H O. A. AT THAT POINT, UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY WANT TO SEE. AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO HAVE THAT PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT AND MAYBE WELCOME TO HAVE HAVE ANY COUNCIL MEMBER THAT WANTS TO PARTICIPATE EITHER ALONG WITH US THIS PASSES, I'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO PARTICIPATE AND HELP HELP ORGANIZED. ALL RIGHT, COURTNEY.

AND THE NEXT SPEAKER WOULD BE SYRACUSE. YEAH. HI MY NAME IS COURTNEY BLOCK. I LIVE IN WENTWORTH CROSSING. I'LL START BY THANKING EACH OF YOU FOR YOUR TIME. I TRULY APPRECIATE THE TIME THAT YOU'RE TAKING TO HEAR THE RESIDENTS OF NEW ALBANY. THESE ARE THE RESIDENTS THAT YOU REPRESENT. A LARGE PORTION OF YOUR JOB IS SIMPLY TO RESPOND TO OUR NEEDS AND TO OUR COMPLAINTS.

AND EVEN IF YOU DON'T AGREE WITH THE MAJORITY OF US IT'S STILL YOUR JOB TO REPRESENT US. IT HAS BEEN OBVIOUS FOR OVER A YEAR THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE CONSTITUENTS DO NOT WANT TO HAMLET IN NEW ALBANY. BUT MORE THAN THAT WE DON'T WANT TO HANDLE IT. LOCATED ON THE CORNER OF 605 IN CENTRAL COLLEGE ROAD DO NOT GET US WRONG. WE DO IN FACT, WANT TO SEE THESE 32 ACRES ON THE CORNER OF 605 IN CENTRAL COLLEGE ROAD DEVELOPED WE WANT TO SEE A DEVELOPED UNDER THE R ONE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL ZONING. IT IS CURRENTLY ZONED FOR I ATTENDED THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING ON NOVEMBER 7TH WHEN IT WAS NOTED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS THAT THE LAYOUT OF THE HAMLET DOES NOT WELCOME THE CITY'S RESIDENTS INTO THE COMMERCIAL SPACE, BUT INSTEAD APPEARS TO BE SET UP. DESERVE JUST THE RESIDENTS OF THE HAMLET. THE PLANNING AND COMMISSION MEMBERS CHALLENGE THE DEVELOPER TO CHANGE THE DESIGN SO THAT IT WAS MORE ACCESSIBLE TO THE CURRENT COMMUNITY. YEAH. HERE WE STAND. 29 DAYS LATER, AND I STILL DON'T SEE THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS IMPLEMENTED. IF I DON'T SEE HIM NOW, I DON'T EXPECT TO SEE THEM LATER. THIS BRINGS ME TO THE FIRST REASON IT WOULD BE DETRIMENTAL TO THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY TO REZONE THE LAND AT THIS TIME. THE HAMLET STANDARDS NEED TO BE FURTHER DEVELOPED BY AN IMPARTIAL PROFESSIONAL. THE HAMLET STANDARDS NEED MORE SPECIFIC DEFINITIONS. FOR EXAMPLE, WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PARK SPACE AND OPEN SPACE? WHAT PERCENTAGE OF PROPOSED ZONING ACREAGE NEEDS TO BE PARK SPACE. WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THE OPEN SPACE WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THIS NEEDS TO BE OPEN SPACE. WHAT IS THE DEFINED PURPOSE OF THE CIVIC GREEN? DO WE HAVE ANY OF THESE ANSWERS WRITTEN INTO THE TEXT? AND YOU GUYS WHO WROTE THE TEXT, RIGHT? THAT WAS RHETORICAL QUESTION. DEFINITELY NOT REPORTING. SORRY. UM SO TONIGHT. I MEAN, THE PURPOSE OF TODAY IS JUST FOR THE REZONING. RIGHT WE RE ZONE WHEN YOU AFTER THE REZONING OF THIS DOES PASS. THEN THEN YOU WILL SEE ALL OF THAT, PROBABLY IN THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN. THAT'S WHEN THAT ALL GETS IRONED OUT. WE'RE ASKING A LOT OF QUESTIONS LIKE YOU ARE OF THE APPLICANT BECAUSE IT HELPS US BETTER UNDERSTAND POSSIBLY WHAT THIS REZONING IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE, SO THE TEXT DOES HAVE SOME THINGS IN THERE RELATED TO THAT, BUT IT WILL GET MORE SPECIFIC IN THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN, SAYING IS HOW CAN THE DEVELOPER MEET THE STANDARDS OF OUR TEXT? IF THE TEXT THAT YOU GUYS WROTE IN THE HAMLET STANDARDS ARE NOT SPECIFIC ENOUGH? IN THE HANDLING STANDARDS. DON'T GIVE THESE SPECIFICS. IT DOESN'T SAY WHAT'S PARK SPACE VERSUS OPEN SPACE. IT DOESN'T TELL US WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THIS ACREAGE NEEDS TO BE. PARK VERSUS OPEN. IT DOESN'T

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ACTUALLY DO SO. WE TOOK A GREAT DEAL OF TIME TO DISCUSS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN OPEN SPACE IN IN PARK SPACE. IT'S SO COULD YOU GET INTO THE, UH, THE BASIS FOR WHAT WE'VE COME UP WITH IN TERMS OF THE STANDARD AND HOW IT DIFFERS FROM THE OPEN SPACE AND PARK SPACE REQUIREMENTS THAT WE HAVE IN OTHER AREAS. SURE SO THE TYPICAL RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION THAT I SURE MOST OF YOU LIVE IN HAS A 20% OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS THAT'S TYPICAL OF THE PASSIVE LANDSCAPED AREA THAT'S USED TO CREATE THE EDGE ALONG THE PRIMARY ROADWAYS AND THEN EACH FOR EACH HOME WITHIN THAT SUBDIVISION DEVELOPER HAS TO PROVIDE 2400 SQUARE FEET OF PARKLAND, AND THAT'S WHERE WE PUT THE PLAYGROUNDS OR OTHER PARK AMENITIES THAT ARE MORE ACTIVE SPACE. SO THE CITY CODE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS WITHIN THE CITY CODE DOES REQUIRE THAT THIS HAMLETS PROVIDE A MINIMUM OF 25% PARKLAND AND OPEN SPACE. AND SO IT DOES PROVIDE FLEXIBILITY THERE IN ORDER TO GIVEN THE NATURE OF THE MIXED USE NATURE OF A HAMLET. YOU KNOW, THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED YOU KNOW THE GENERAL MENOTTI'S AND THROUGH THE SUB AREA SHOWN WHERE THAT OPEN SPACE AND PARKLAND WILL BE AND SO DURING THE REZONING PROCESS, IT'S SETTING THE CRITERIA WORRIED THAT IT WILL BE ADDED TO PARKLAND AND OPEN SPACE AND DURING THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN STAGE IF THEY SHOULD GET IMPROVED, SO THE CITY HAS A PARK AND TRAILS ADVISORY BOARD, AND OUR CODE ACTUALLY HAS A TECHNICAL ASSESSMENT THAT OUR PARKS AND TRAILS ADVISORY BOARD USES TO DETERMINE IF WHAT THE DEVELOPER IS PROPOSING FOR PARKLAND AND OR OPEN SPACE IS APPROPRIATE. AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT GETS REVIEWED AND EVALUATED BY THE CITY'S PARKS AND TRAILS ADVISORY BOARD, AND THEN THAT'S RECOMMENDATION GOES ONTO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR ADDITIONAL REVIEW BEFORE ITS FINAL APPROVAL, AND ALL THOSE MEANINGS ARE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC AND AVAILABLE FOR THE PUBLIC TO PRIDE BACK INPUT. JUST MAYBE JUST ONE POINT OF CLARIFICATION. SO I THINK YOU REFERENCED THE STANDARDS. THERE'S THE STRATEGIC PLAN STANDARDS. BUT THEN THERE'S ALSO THE STANDARDS THAT ARE IN THE CODE, WHICH IS THE PLANNING AND ZONING CODE, WHICH IS WHAT GUIDES US WITH OUR TECHNICAL ASSESSMENTS WERE REVIEWING APPLICATIONS SO THEY OFTEN TIMES THAT'S WHERE IT'S VERY SPECIFIC AS TO WHAT A DEVELOPER WHAT GUIDELINES THE DEVELOPER NEEDS TO FOLLOW FOR THE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT THAT THEY'RE BUILDING AND THEN IF THEY DEVIATE FROM THOSE THAT THEY HAVE TO ASK FOR A VARIANCE FROM TO THE CODE. WHICH NEEDS TO GO TO A PUBLIC BODY FOR PERFORMING APPROVAL. THANK YOU. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THE COUNCIL'S CREATED STANDARDS FOR A HAMLET. AND ALTHOUGH THE EFFORTS MADE THUS FAR ARE A GOOD START, THEY ARE NOWHERE CLOSE TO BEING COMPLETE.

THE STANDARDS FOR THE CITY, AS DESCRIBED IN THE ENGAGED NEW, ONLY STRATEGIC PLAN ARE AND I QUOTE BASED ON COMMUNITY INPUT AND SOUND PLANNING PRINCIPLES DESIGNED TO IMPROVE QUALITY OF LIFE AND QUOTE. COUNCIL YOU OWE IT TO THE RESIDENTS OF NEW ALBANY TO BE EXCESSIVELY METICULOUS AND DEFINING THE HAMLET STANDARDS. HAMLET STANDARDS ARE TERMS OF DEVELOPER MUST FOLLOW. THEY ARE NOT DESIGNED AROUND THE DEVELOPERS VISION. THE SECOND REASON IT IS IMPERATIVE THAT COUNCIL VOTES NO TO REZONING IS BECAUSE THE TRAFFIC STUDY NEEDS TO BE REDONE BY AN INDEPENDENT THIRD PARTY TRAFFIC ENGINEER THAT HAS NEVER BEEN AFFILIATED WITH STEINER AND ASSOCIATES. DURING THE NOVEMBER 15TH CITY COUNCIL MEETING, THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER AGREED WITH THE TRAFFIC STUDY PAID FOR BY STEINER AND ASSOCIATES, WHICH STATES THE PROPOSED HAMLET WOULD INCREASE TRAFFIC BY 1000 CARS A DAY. HOWEVER. AT THE SAME MEETING, THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER SAID THE TRAFFIC FROM THE DISCOVERY CALL CENTER WELL DISPERSED ONTO NEW ALBANY ROAD EAST AND THEN ONTO 1 61 FROM THERE, WHICH IS WHY WE ARE NOT SEEING A LARGE IMPACT FROM THE DISCOVERY CENTER IN THIS TRAFFIC STUDY. THIS IS WRONG, AND I'LL TELL YOU WHY. THOSE PARTS WILL DISPENSE ON THE CENTRAL COLLEGE ROAD EAST TO 62, THEN 1 61 BECAUSE TRAFFIC ON 1 61 AND NEW ALBANY ROAD IS ALREADY A PARKING LOT. COMMUTERS HAVE ALREADY BEGUN USING CENTRAL COLLEGE EAST AS A BYPASS AND WE DON'T EVEN HAVE EMPLOYEES OCCUPYING THE DISCOVERY BUILDING OR INTEL.

FURTHERMORE THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER SAID THE ONLY DEVELOPMENT PROVIDING MORE CARS ON THE ROAD THAN A CALL CENTER IS A SHOPPING CENTER. IMMEDIATELY PRIOR TO THE STATEMENT, AND AGAIN HERE JUST A MOMENT AGO, STAINER AND ASSOCIATES SAID THAT THE HAMLET AT SUGAR RUN IS DESIGNED AFTER EASTERN TOWN CENTER THINK THE PICTURE IS STILL UP THERE. YEAH, THE LARGEST SHOPPING CENTER IN COLUMBUS, OHIO. ANOTHER DISCUSSION AT LAST MONTH CITY COUNCIL MEETING WAS ABOUT THE VIABILITY OF THE COMMERCIAL SPACE. RESIDENTS COMPARED THE PROPOSED COMMERCIAL FACE IN THIS

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WHEN ASKED TO KEEP THE CURRENT AMOUNT OF GREEN SPACE. THE DEVELOPER SAID. THAT WOULD MAKE THIS HAMLET NOT ECONOMICALLY VIABLE. AS YOU CAN SEE THE TRAFFIC IMPACT THIS PROPOSED HAMLET WILL HAVE ON THE CITY'S INFRASTRUCTURE AT CENTRAL COLLEGE ROAD. IN 605 PAST THE SCHOOL CAMPUS RENDERS THIS LOCATION THE WRONG LOCATION. FURTHERMORE THE DEVELOPERS INABILITY TO CREATE A PLAN THAT WILL REDESIGN THIS INFRASTRUCTURE IN A WAY THAT PROTECTS THE SAFETY OF THE RESIDENTS WELCOMES THE COMMUNITY INTO THE SPACE RENDERS IT NOT ECONOMICALLY VIABLE. THE PROPOSED HAMLET DOES NOT WORK FOR THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY OR THE DEVELOPER. MAYOR SPAULDING. YOU SAID THE CITY HAS TO CONSIDER THIS LANDOWNER'S REQUEST FOR REZONING AND YOU HAVE DONE THAT AT SEVERAL MEETINGS OVER THE PAST 18 MONTHS, THIS PROPERTY OWNER HAS FAILED OVER AND OVER AGAIN TO CREATE A HAMLET THAT OFFERS PEDESTRIAN AND BIKE FRIENDLY AMENITIES. COMMUNITY CONNECTIVITY, PARKS AND OPEN SPACE AND SAFE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR CURRENT STUDENTS AND FAMILIES ALIKE. WHAT YOU HAVE NOT SHOWN CONSIDERATION FOR OUR THE LANDOWNERS STANDING BEFORE YOU TONIGHT. THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY SHOULD NOT HAVE TO ENDURE A REDUCED QUALITY OF LIFE. SO ONE LANDOWNER CAN MAKE A BUNCH OF MONEY. I AM ASKING YOU, THE CITY COUNCIL AND MAYOR IS VOTING TO REPRESENT THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE WHO ELECTED YOU BY VOTING NO TO REZONING THIS LAND AT THE CORNER OF 605 IN CENTRAL COLLEGE ROAD FOR THIS PROPOSED HAMLET. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. PARDON? ABUSE IS SOMETHING. I'M UP, RIGHT? YEAH TRAFFIC THERE. SH YEAH. ALRIGHT THANK YOU.

COURTNEY WEST CEREMONY. JUST REAL QUICK. I JUST SORRY. I JUST POINT OF CLARIFICATION ON THE LAST SPEAKER. THE TRAFFIC STUDY . I JUST WANT TO GO BACK. WE DID INCLUDE I KNOW THAT WAS REQUESTED TO INCLUDE WHAT DISCOVER IF IT WAS AT FULL CAPACITY WAS INCLUDED INTO THAT CORRECT, JUST CLARIFY CLARIFICATION SO AS A REQUIREMENT TO THE ZONING, THE DEVELOPER HAD TO COMPLETE A TRAFFIC STUDY. THAT TRAFFIC STUDY WAS DONE BY CARPENTER MARTY. WHAT WE DO IS STAFF ON EVERY REZONING APPLICATION IS WE THEN SEND WHATEVER TRAFFIC STUDY IS DONE BY THE PRIVATE SECTOR. WE SEND THAT TO OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER VALIDATED. SO WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT THEY LOOK AT THE ASSUMPTIONS. DO WE AGREE OR DISAGREE? DO WE AGREE WITH THE FINDINGS OR DISAGREE? IS THE METHODOLOGY CORRECT OR NOT CORRECT. AND THERE ARE CASES WHERE WE HAVE GONE BACK AND SAID TWO DIFFERENT DEVELOPERS THROUGHOUT THE APPLICATION PROCESS. HE WE DON'T THINK YOUR METHODOLOGY MAKES SENSE. IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE. THEY ORIGINALLY SUBMITTED A TRAFFIC STUDY THAT DID NOT INCLUDE THE DISCOVERY CALL CENTER, ONE OF THE VERY FIRST COMMENTS THAT ARE TRAFFIC ENGINEER MADE WAS NOPE. GO BACK , REDO IT AND PUT THOSE NUMBERS

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BUT WHAT HE WAS SAYING IS THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT THEY SAID IN THEIR TRAFFIC STUDY THAT I AGREE WITH. THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT I DON'T AGREE WITH. AND THEN SUBSEQUENTLY, HE MADE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION WITH RESPECT TO LEFT TURN LANES THAT NEEDED WIDE AND ONE OF HIS RECOMMENDATIONS. WAS THAT THE LEFT TURN LANE UM AND THE WHITING WOULD HAPPEN ON THE ENTIRE SECTION OF 605 FROM CENTRAL COLLEGE DOWN TO THE LIMITS OF THE PROJECT, SO THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS CAME FROM US. AND THEN THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAD THE OPPORTUNITY WHETHER OR NOT THEY WANTED TO SAY YES. WE'RE GOING TO IMPROVE THIS BASED ON THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER. SO, UM ALL OF THOSE THINGS. ONE OF THE BIGGEST QUESTIONS THAT CAME UP QUITE FRANKLY, WAS THE WHEN THE TRAFFIC STUDY WAS CONDUCTED AND SO INDEPENDENTLY WE TOOK A LOOK AT THAT AND SAID, DOES THAT DOES THAT INVALIDATE THE STUDY NUMBERS AND DETERMINE THAT IT DOESN'T HOWEVER, THE DISCOVER THE FACT THAT DISCOVERY WAS NOT INCLUDED IN IN THE TRAFFIC STUDY THAT THEY SUBMITTED ORIGINALLY WAS SOMETHING THAT WE ASKED THEM TO GO BACK AND CHANGE AND WE ARE MAKING VARIOUS RECOMMENDATIONS. LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, THE LEFT TURN LANES THAT WERE NOT PART OF THEIR STUDY. BUT WE'RE ASKING THEM BASED ON OUR ANALYSIS THAT THEY NEED TO ADD THAT TO THE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE ZONING SO THAT'S THAT'S HOW THAT WORKS. I UNDERSTAND THE LAST MEETING TO IT WAS A LITTLE CONFUSING BECAUSE HE WAS TRYING TO SHARE WITH COUNCIL KIND OF WHAT THE REPORT WAS OF WHAT THEIR STUDY SAID THAT YOU UNDERSTOOD WHAT THEIR STUDY WAS SAYING, AND IT GOT A LITTLE CONFUSING BETWEEN WHAT WHAT HE WAS REPORTING AS A REPORT ON THE STUDY AND WHAT OUR RECOMMENDATIONS ARE. KOURTNEY IF YOU CAN STEP BACK UP TO THE MICROPHONE, BECAUSE OTHERWISE WE LOSE IT. YEAH I APPRECIATE THE CLARIFICATION AND I THINK THAT THE BIGGER POINT I WAS TRYING TO MAKE IS, YOU KNOW WE HAVE MADE THESE RECOMMENDATIONS ABOUT TURN LANES AND A BUNCH OF OTHER THINGS, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE'RE NOT IS NOT CONCLUSIVE ENOUGH. WE'RE NOT INCLUDING THE TRAFFIC FROM INTELLIGENCE SUPPORT THE VIABILITY OF THE COMMERCIAL. WE DON'T HAVE THAT THEN WE DON'T HAVE THE COMMERCIAL. AND IF WE DON'T HAVE COMMERCIAL, THEN WE REALLY DON'T HAVE THIS HAMLET. SO UNTIL WE CAN PUT ALL THAT IN THERE, WE'RE PUTTING BAND AIDS ON THINGS.

WE'RE NOT ACTUALLY CREATING SOMETHING SUCCESSFUL. WE ARE TRYING TO WORK AROUND THE DEVELOPERS VISION INSTEAD OF GIVING THEM THE VISION AND MAKING THEM FIT THAT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, OKAY. NEXT SPEAKER, IF YOU WILL REPEAT YOUR NAME AND GIVE YOU ADDRESS I'M SORRY.

SARAH FEELS THE NEXT AND THEN SHARKS. STEELMAN. OKAY SO, UH, I'M SARAH FIZZLE. I LIVE AT 7445 FARMINGTON UNCLOS, WHICH IS NOT IN THE LINKS OR IN THE ENCLAVE. OR IN WENTWORTH CROSSING. I LIVE IN NEW ALBANY COUNTRY CLUB COMMUNITY HAVE BEEN HERE IN THE PAST TO SPEAK AGAINST THE NO. NO PROJECT. AND UM, YOU KNOW YOU'VE HEARD A LOT OF THE REASONS BUT I WANT TO SHARE SOME REASONS AS SOMEONE THAT DOES NOT LIVE CLOSE TO THE COMMUNITY. UM, WHY I AM AGAINST THE REZONING FOR THIS SPACE. UM FIRST OF ALL, I YOU KNOW, NO, THIS IS REALLY TOUGH FOR YOU ALL BECAUSE YOU'VE BEEN THROUGH THIS FOR OVER 18 MONTHS. UM SO I RECOGNIZE THE CHALLENGE THAT YOU'RE FACED WITH TONIGHT.

UM I DO AGREE WITH OTHER SPEAKERS THAT THE HAMLET STANDARDS SHOULD BE IN A FINAL PLACE BEFORE WE ARE OPEN TO RE ZONING. THE SPACE. NEW ALBANY HAS NEVER BEEN VAGUE OR AMBIGUOUS ABOUT THEIR STANDARDS , AND THAT IS WHY WE HAVE BECOME ACCUSTOMED AS CITIZENS TO LIVING IN A COMMUNITY WERE DEVELOPED DEVELOPMENT IS DONE THOUGHTFULLY AND NOT IN A MANNER WHERE THE PLANE IS BEING PUT TOGETHER WHILE WE'RE TAKING OFF WHAT HAPPENS WITH THIS PIECE OF LAND MATTERS TO EVERYONE IN NEW ALBANY, NOT JUST THOSE LIVING CLOSEST TO THE DEVELOPMENT.

CONTINUED DEGRADATION OF THE VERY PRECISE STANDARDS THIS COMMUNITY CAME TO KNOW, APPRECIATE AND ADMIRE, SHOULD NOT CONTINUE. IN THE LAST SCHOOL BOARD MEETING. MR SAWYER'S INDICATED THAT THERE WAS GOING TO BE, UH, DENSITY STUDY THAT WOULD BE CONCLUDING IN THE SPRING THAT IS IN 2023. UM SCHOOL DENSITY HAS BEEN A CONSISTENT CONCERN. ALONG THE WAY, AS YOU PROBABLY SEE ON REALTOR .COM HOUSES IN HAMPSTEAD ARE SELLING IN THE MID 17 HUNDREDS. PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO GET INTO OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT FOR WHATEVER COST NECESSARY. UM AND IF YOU THINK THAT TOWN HOMES ARE NOT GOING TO BE BRINGING CHILDREN INTO THE DISTRICT, PEOPLE FIND A WAY NO MATTER THE COST. I MOVED HERE FROM ASHBURN , VIRGINIA, AS I THINK MANY OF, YOU KNOW, IN A VERY TECH HEAVY AREA. I LIVED IN A TOWNHOUSE. MY HUSBAND IS A COMPUTER ENGINEER.

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THE TRAFFIC STUDY IS I UNDERSTAND. IT'S DONE BY AN ENGINEER, AND I'M NOT AN ENGINEER. I'M A LAWYER, BUT JUST FROM COMMON SENSE, DRIVING DOWN 605 MULTIPLE TIMES A DAY TO TAKE MY KIDS TO SPORTING EVENTS OR THEIR EXTRACURRICULAR ACTIVITIES . THERE'S FOR THEIR DAY TO DAY ACTIVITIES. THEY DO, UM, WE SEE WHAT THE TRAFFIC LOOKS LIKE. IT ABSOLUTELY TERRIFIES ME TO THINK ABOUT ICE AND DRIVING TO HIS FOOTBALL SPORTING EVENTS. HE PLAYS FOOTBALLTHE MIDDLE SCHOOL ALONG THAT ROAD WHEN THAT TRAFFIC IS INCREASED, SO I JUST WOULD URGE YOU BACK TO YOUR EARLIER POINT TO CONSIDER THAT AND I KNOW THAT THERE ARE SOME INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE GOING TO TALK MORE ABOUT THIS, SO I AM NOT GOING TO BELABOR IT. I DO HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT CRIME.

AND WE'VE SEEN AN UPTICK IN IT. I CAN SAY THAT LIVING YOU ALREADY LINKS RIGHT NOW. YOU CAN'T PARK YOUR CAR OUTSIDE FOR MORE THAN TWO DAYS. IT IS IT JUST CAN'T HAPPEN. PEOPLE WILL WILL COME INTO THE PARK. UM I THINK THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME CRIMES. SOME REPORTS SUBMITTED TO YOU ALL THAT MY ESTEEMED VAPORS ARE MUCH MORE VERSE TO SPEAK ABOUT. BUT I WOULD ASK YOU TO CONSIDER THAT FACTOR. AND ALSO WHETHER ARE VERY, UM I THINK WE HAVE A VERY GOOD POLICE FORCE HERE, VERY RESPECTFUL, VERY INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY, BUT WHETHER THEY HAVE THE CAPACITY ALSO TO HANDLE THAT INCREASED DENSITY. AND THEN LASTLY, I JUST WANTED TO AGAIN.

THANK EVERYBODY ON CITY COUNCIL . I UNDERSTAND THERE'S PROBABLY UNDERTONES AND THINGS THAT ARE THAT YOU HAVE TO THINK ABOUT AND THAT ARE GOING ON THAT AREN'T NECESSARILY FULLY TRANSPARENT OR OBVIOUS TO THE CITIZENS OF THE COMMUNITY. BUT I JUST DID WANT TO ASK COUNCIL TONIGHT. PLEASE REMEMBER THAT YOU REPRESENT US AS THE CITIZENS. YOU'RE HEARING FROM US. YOU'RE HEARING ARE

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THANK YOU, LIKE EVERYONE HAS SAID YOU ARE HERE TONIGHT NOT TO REVIEW ANYTHING OTHER THAN THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST. TO CHANGE A PIECE OF LAND FROM OUR ONE RESIDENTIAL TWO I P U D MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT. NOW WE'VE HEARD A LOT OF THINGS FROM THE DEVELOPERS TEAM SOME. I FIND MUCH MORE OBJECTIONABLE THAN OTHERS. BUT WHAT I WANT TO SAY IS WHAT YOU HAVE HEARD FOR OVER A YEAR AND A HALF FROM THE CITIZENS AND I APOLOGIZE FOR READING OFF A SLIDE BUT LIVED IN CORPORATE AMERICA. SO HERE WE GO FOR WELL OVER A YEAR, THE RESIDENTS HAVE BEEN CLEAR, VOCAL , PASSIONATE AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, CONSISTENT ABOUT WHY THIS PROPOSAL DOES NOT MAKE SENSE AT THIS SPECIFIC LOCATION. THE NUMBER ONE THING WE HAVE SAID OVER AND OVER AGAIN AND WON'T STOP SAYING BECAUSE IT IS THE NUMBER ONE REASON IS DENSITY 12 TO 16 TO ONE. I DON'T CARE DENSITY IS TOO MUCH ADDING UP TO UP TO 195 RESIDENTIAL UNITS AT MAXIMUM PLUS COMMERCIAL IN A 32.5 ACRE SITE CREATES A PROBLEMATIC DENSITY ISSUE WITH INCREASED TRAFFIC. INCREASED CONGESTION AND AN INCREASED RISK OF ACCIDENTS AND NEXT, WHAT'S CRYING NOW? MR UNDERHILL WROTE IN HIS LETTER TO THE CITY. I MEAN, WE JUST READ HIS WORDS. ANOTHER CLAIM THAT HAS BEEN ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PROJECT IS THAT IT WILL BRING CRIME TO THE AREA. THE THEORY BEING THAT QUOTE THESE TIMES OF THESE TYPES OF PEOPLE AND QUOTE WHO LIVE IN TOWN HOMES OR FLATS TEND TO ENGAGE IN MORE CRIMINAL ACTIVITY , THEN THOSE WHO RESIDE IN TRADITIONAL SINGLE FAMILY HOMES I WILL SUBMIT HERE. MAYBE THIS IS SUBJECTIVE THAT THE SUM TOTAL PEOPLE WHO HAVE EVER SAID THAT ZERO WHAT WE HAVE SAID. IS THAT TOWN HOMES AND APARTMENTS SEE MORE CRIME THAN SINGLE FAMILY HOME AREAS. CONCERN WE HAVE IS THAT BUILDING TOWN HOMES AND FLATS AND COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES WILL LOOK TO SOMEONE WHO DOESN'T LIVE IN NEW ALBANY, MUCH SIMILAR TO THE L. C. THAT'S THE CONCERN , NOT THE PEOPLE IF WE DIDN'T LIKE RENTERS, AND WOULDN'T LIKE THE PEOPLE RUNNING THE HOMES RIGHT NOW. AND THEN FINALLY, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, I BELIEVE THAT THIS DOES NOT ALIGN WITH THE ENGAGING IN ALBANY STRATEGIC PLAN DOES NOT ALIGN SPECIFICALLY ON PAGES. 35 42, WHERE THE SURVEY RESULTS SHOW NEW ALBANESE STRENGTHS AND WEAKNESSES AND WHERE WE SHOULD FOCUS OUR EFFORTS AND ALSO WITH THE DESIRED LAND USES FOR THE FUTURE OF NEW ALBANY ARE TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. FIRST ON THE DENSITY. THIS IS A SLIDE. I APOLOGIZE THAT CUT IT IN HALF, BUT I DIDN'T CUT ANYTHING OUT. SOME OF THE LEFT SIDE AND THE TOP RIGHT SIDE IS FROM THE DEVELOPERS PRESENTATION AT I BELIEVE THE PLANNING COMMISSION . I WANT TO DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO THE YELLOW HIGHLIGHTS AND THE RED UNDERLINES, AND, UH, THE SUGAR RUN TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY SHOWS 210 NEW TRIPS IN THE AM PEAK HOUR. AND 233 TRIPS IN THE PM PEAK HOUR. WHAT THAT MEANS IS ABOUT 450 NEW PEAK HOUR TRIPS PER DAY. THAT DOESN'T COUNT THE OTHER 22 HOURS OF THE DAY THAT WEREN'T INCLUDED IN THE STUDY. AND WHAT IS IT REALLY ACCOUNT FOR WEEKEND TRAFFIC, OBVIOUSLY INCREASED CONGESTION AND DELAYS , ESPECIALLY DURING THE MORNING PEAK SCHOOL DROP OFF HOURS AND AFTERNOON PEAK HOURS ARE CONCERNED. AND ALSO INCREASED TRAFFIC WILL LEAD TO INCREASED RISK FOR ACCIDENTS. THERE. WHAT DO I MEAN BY THAT? CAN WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE? JUST A QUICK QUESTION. CAN YOU GO BACK? I'M SORRY. THE NUMBER OF TRIPS NEW TRIPS PER DAY. I MEAN, THAT'S NOT JUST DURING THOSE TWO HOURS. THAT'S THE ENTIRE DAY OR IS IT JUST THAT, SAYS 210 NEW TRIPS IN THE A. M. P. GOWER AND 233 NEW TRIPS IN THE PM COMMUTER PEAK HOUR, SO THAT IS 450 TRIPS. IN TOTAL HER DAY JUST IN THOSE TWO PEAK HOURS. THAT'S I NEED ONE SPEAKER AT A TIME FOR THE RECORDING OF THE RECORD. THANK YOU. DOES ANYONE FROM THE EP AFFAIRS TEAM HAVE A RESPONSE TO THIS? I MEAN, I'M NOT A TRAFFIC ENGINEER. WELL, FIRST I WROTE IT, SO YES. THIS IS BASED ON

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WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. WE ASKED ABOUT CRIME, AND IT MAY BE HARD TO SEE AND HEAR. BUT UH, I PULLED FROM THE LEXISNEXIS COMMUNITY CRIME MAP AGAIN DATED THROUGH JANUARY 2020 THROUGH ROUGHLY THE END OF NOVEMBER, 2022. EVERY ICON YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN IS A PRIME REPORTED CRIME, I SHOULD SAY. UH THAT'S AMALGAMATED IT WILL THAT MADE IT INTO THIS DATABASE. AND WHAT I REALLY WANTED TO CALL OUT HERE IS THE RED BOX IS THE HAMLET. WE CAN ALSO LET'S JUST SAY THAT IS THE BEGINNING OF NEW ALBANY, AND WE CAN SEE THAT THE FAR RIGHT YELLOW BAR THAT'S ROUTE 62. MY POINT IS THAT YOU HAVE CRIME AND THEN YOU DON'T HAVE CRIME OVER ALMOST THREE YEARS. CREDIT TO THE POLICE CHIEF AND HIS WONDERFUL STAFF, USUALLY ALMOST NO CRIME IN THE NEW ALBANY AREA . THIS IS WHAT I MEAN WHEN THE CONCERN IS THAT HOUSING DEVELOPMENT OR DEVELOPMENT THAT LOOKS TOO SIMILAR TO THE L. C, WHICH IS WHERE THE LION'S SHARE OF THOSE ICONS ARE STARTS TO BLEED EAST. THAT'S THE CONCERN. UM AGAIN, THE SCARCITY OF DATA POINTS BETWEEN WHERE NEW ALBANY STARTS AROUND 62, I THINK IS A CREDIT TO OUR STAFF. WE WANT TO KEEP IT THAT WAY. I DON'T WANT TO SEE, UH THE STAFF HAVE TO INCREASE THEIR ENGAGEMENT BECAUSE OF INCREASED CRIME. I DON'T THINK THEY SHOULD HAVE TO. FINALLY, I WANT TO MOVE INTO THE ENGAGEMENT. ALBANY STRATEGIC PLANS SPECIFICALLY PAGES 35 42 QUESTIONS. I ASK YOU A QUICK QUESTION BEFORE YOU MOVE ON FROM THAT SLIDE WAS THIS CALLS FOR SERVICE OR IS THIS NUMBER OF REPORTS? THIS IS ACTUAL REPORTED CRIMES AND I APOLOGIZE. I THINK ONE OF MY NEIGHBORS SUGGESTED I GET THE LEDGER OR A LEGEND, BUT I FAILED TO SO A LOT OF THESE ARE WHERE YOU KIND OF SEE A GRAY SQUARE WITH SORT OF LOOKING CAR . THOSE ARE CAR BREAK INS WHERE YOU SEE SOMETHING THAT LOOKS LIKE A BAG OF MONEY. THAT'S A THEFT. UM YOU KNOW, THE PURPLE BOX WITH THE HOUSE IS A HOME BREAK IN. BUT THESE ARE REPORTED CRIMES THAT WERE THEN ENTERED INTO THIS PRIME DATABASE. SO THIS DOES NOT REPRESENT ALL CRIME ONLY REPORTED CRIMES THAT MADE IT INTO THIS DATABASE. MET. DID YOU HAPPEN TO GATHER DATA FOR ALL NEW ALBANY AND COMPARISONS TO THIS? UM YOU KNOW THE DENSITY THAT IS NORTH OF ONE

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I THINK NO AREA GIVES YOU THE FAVOR. I THINK IT WHERE'S YOUR HOUSE, ISN'T IT? YEAH, I THINK IT'S PROBABLY JUST SHOWED YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL. GOT IT? SO THERE'S NO ZOOMING. SO WHAT FOR HOW THIS WORKS IS BY LAYERING. SO WHEN YOU GET TO THE SITE, YOU CAN CLICK ON WHAT THE FILTER BOX UP THERE YOU CLICK ON THE FILTER, AND THEN YOU CAN DO LAYERS AND IT HAS ALL THE CRIMES. HE PROBABLY DID NOT INCLUDE SUICIDES BECAUSE THAT MAN IS JUST SAD, AND THERE'S JUST NO NEED FOR THAT. AND I DON'T MEAN TO MAKE THAT A JOKE. I'M SORRY, BUT THERE ARE SOME CRIMES THAT ARE NOT INCLUDED, BUT IT'S VIA LAYERING. EVERYTHING ELSE IS INCLUDED IN THAT. AND NO MATTER HOW YOU ZOOM IN OR ZOOM OUT, IT'S ALL THERE. THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS WITH THE ZOOM IN AND ZOOM A OUT IS HOW IF YOU CAN SEE THE ICONS OR ICONS FALL ON TOP OF EACH OTHER. SO WHERE THE NUMBERS ARE TWO OR THREE IF YOU ZOOM CLOSER THAN LET'S SAY, FOR EXAMPLE, RIGHT ABOVE WHEREVER THE FOUR IS, IF YOU ZOOMED IN THEN HE WOULD SEE ALL THE ICONS THERE. BUT SO I HAVE A QUESTION. THIS IS NOT JUST SHOWING ELSIE COMMUNITIES OR L C LIKE COMMUNITY. NO NO, THIS IS NOT ABOUT ELSE SHOWING CRIME. COLUMBUS ANNUAL ALBANESE POLICE FORCE. THAT IS THE POINT . BUT WHAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND IS WHY THESE THAT'S PROBABLY THIS DEVELOPMENT THAT MIGHT THAT, I THINK LOOKS LIKE THE MARKET IN MAINLAND CA'S WICK WOULD ATTRACT CRIME THAT IS BEING STOPPED IN NEW ALBANY BY OUR AMAZING POLICE FORCE, BECAUSE, AND I MY RESPONSE TO THAT WOULD BE THE WAY YOU VIEW IT THE WAY I VIEW IT AS WHAT I WOULD CALL RESPONSIBLE HOMEOWNERS SPEAK FOR MYSELF. I WON'T SPEAK FOR YOU ASSUME FOR YOU IS NOT HOW I WOULD MAKE A CRIMINAL MIGHT VIEW IT AGAIN. I'M NOT MAKING AN ASSERTION. I AM SAYING THIS IS WHY THE CONCERN ABOUT CRIME EXISTS. WHEN WE PULL UP PRIME MATCH WE SEE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MIXED USE FACILITIES AND SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING. THAT IS THE POINT OF THE MATH. I DON'T STILL I'M SORRY TO BELABOR THE POINT. I DON'T SEE HOW THIS IS MIXED USE. I JUST SEE THIS AS THE CITY OF COLUMBUS. AND MAYBE UNDERSTAND IT'S JUST A MAP. SO I MEAN, IF YOU WANT TO ME TO ZOOM IN MORE YOU CAN SEND ME IN THAT STRIKE NORTH AND SOUTH IS THE L C, WHICH IS MIXED. USE LITTLE FURTHER WEST. YOU GET SOMETHING CLOSER TO COMES. I CAN'T SPEAK TO EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD BUT OKAY? AXITY EXECUTIVE AGAIN. MHM. I GUESS TODAY. NEXT YEAR. TO USE THIS WORD. NEED SPEAKERS ON THE RECORD SO WE CAN? YEAH, NO TIME WITH MY QUESTION FOR YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FARED WAY I WOULD ONLY OFFER I'M NOT

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SO AGAIN, I THINK LOOKING AT DEVELOPMENT THAT CAN ONLY EXACERBATE TRAFFIC THE WAY IT IS CURRENTLY BEING PROPOSED. DOESN'T FIT WITH THE PLAN. IT DOESN'T FIT WITH THE PLAN, AND IT DOESN'T FIT AT THIS SITE. IF WE CAN MOVE ON TO THE NEXT SLIDE. PLEASE. AGAIN. I'M A NERD , AND I LIKE NUMBERS. AND, YES, THE MIXED USE VERSUS SINGLE FAMILY IS A BIG DEAL, AND IT'S A BIG DEAL FOR ME, NOT BECAUSE IT'S 15% 1 SINGLE FAMILY AND 1% SAY, MIXED USE. BUT AS ALEX STATED, IF YOU LOOK AT THE RANGE OF PEOPLE GIVEN THE RESPONDENTS THAT COULD HAVE RESPONDED, MIXED USE AND STILL ROUND TO 1% IT'S ONE OR TWO RANGE OF PEOPLE THAT RESPONDED. A SINGLE FAMILY HERE IS 26 TO 28. I CAN'T IT ALL ROUNDS TO THE SAME. BUT IF WE TAKE THE UPPER AND LOWER BOUNDS , IT MEANS THAT FIFTH SOMEWHERE BETWEEN AROUND 15 AND 30 TIMES MORE PEOPLE WANT SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING THAN WANT MIXED USE. THAT IS A DRASTIC DIFFERENCE ON WHAT THE PEOPLE WANT FOR LAND USE IN THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY. I KNOW THAT'S HOW I FEEL. I KNOW THAT'S HOW MY NEIGHBORS FEEL.

WHAT WE WANT IS NOT MIXED USE, NOT IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. LASTLY AND I WANT TO GET BACK TO THE SCHOOL AND THE ROAD. THE ROAD TO ME IS VERY QUICK QUESTION ON THAT SLIDE THERE. SURE UM, BECAUSE IT'S BEEN MENTIONED A COUPLE OF TIMES TONIGHT. SO I THINK THIS IS GOOD TO HAVE THIS UP THERE. SO I NOTICED THAT THE FIRST HALF THE PEOPLE WANTED DINING AND RETAIL AND THEN PARK RECREATION OPEN SPACE WAS SECOND . DO YOU FEEL THAT THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT WOULD NOT ALSO ACHIEVED THAT? I THINK IT MIGHT ACHIEVE IT IN A CHECK THE BOX FASHION? I AM VERY CONCERNED IN HOW IT ACHIEVES IT. WE'VE HAD ENOUGH SPEAKERS REITERATED. THEY'RE MUCH SMARTER THAN ME ON ON DINING AND RETAIL. I THINK WHEN YOU SAY PARKS AND RECREATION AND OPEN SPACE, I DON'T KNOW THAT I CONSIDER 100. AN 80 FT. UNUSABLE FLOODPLAIN. CREATED TO BE EXACTLY THE TYPE OF PARK SPACE. I ENVISION TAYLOR FARM OUT BY WHERE ANDREA LIVES IS A GREAT USE OF A PARK SPACE.

I THINK IT'S A BEAUTIFUL SPOT. UM I DON'T KNOW THAT SUGAR RUN CREEK IS THE MOST USABLE SPACE AND AGAIN IT WAS ALREADY MENTIONED. I DON'T WANT TO BE LABOR THE POINT WHEN YOU START TO ACTUALLY LOOK AT THE USABLE PARK SPACE IN THIS, UH IN THIS AREA. IT IS NOT CLOSE TO 25. I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION ABOUT THIS NEW PLAN IF YOU'RE DONE PLEASURES, SO JUST JUST TO GET YOUR FEEDBACK ON WHAT YOU THINK HOW WE SHOULD BE READING THIS DAY BECAUSE THE STUDY COMES UP A LOT. I SEE THAT THERE IS A VERY BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE PEOPLE WHO WANT SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AND THE PEOPLE WHO WANT NEXT USE OR EVEN THE PEOPLE WHO WANT MULTI FAMILY RESIDENTIAL. SITTING HERE UNCOMFORTABLE AND PLANNING COMMISSION. WE ARE HAVING WE ARE WE ARE GOING FORWARD WITH SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL HOMES. DO YOU READ THIS TO SAY THAT? WE SHOULD ONLY DO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL HOMES TO THE EXCLUSION OF ALL OTHER PROJECTS, OR IS IT ACCEPTABLE AS A COUNCIL TO HAVE SOME MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT IN ADDITION TO HIGH QUALITY RESIDENTIAL PROJECTS, WHICH WE PUT FORWARD OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS. THANK YOU FOR SHOWING YOUR LAWYER UM WHAT I WOULD SAY IS, IT'S ALWAYS ACCEPTABLE TO CONSIDER NEW USES OF LAND. BUT YOU HAVE TO CONSIDER THAT USE OF LAND WHERE IT MAKES THE MOST SENSE IF THE

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THAT'S CHANGED INTEL, AND THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THEN AND NOW IN TERMS OF THE VIABILITY OF THE COMMERCIAL. THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE VIABILITY OF THE COMMERCIAL. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE WOULD NOT PUT THIS DEVELOPMENT STYLE. OUT BY INTEL. LET HIM GO TO LUNCH THERE EVERY DAY. LET THEM LIVE WHERE THEY WORK. I DON'T KNOW AGAIN. THAT'S JUST THAT'S THAT'S MY OPINION. WHEN I THINK WE HAVE WHAT I THINK WE HAVE. I MEAN, WE CAN PUT COMMERCIAL OUT THERE TO THINK WE HAVE AT THIS SPECIFIC SITE. AND MY LAST SLIDE, I HOPE INDICATES IT AS WELL. IS A NEIGHBORHOOD CONNECTED TO THE SCHOOL. AND IT IS ZONED R ONE. IT IS ZONED PERFECTLY AS IT IS.

35 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES WOULD MAKE TOTAL SENSE AND I'LL MAKE THAT POINT LAST UM, I JUST DON'T THINK THAT INCREASING THE TRAFFIC ALONG CENTRAL COLLEGE ROAD, WHICH I AGREE WITH COURTNEY, THAT CENTRAL COLLEGE EAST TO GET TO 1 61 WILL BE AN ABSOLUTE OUTLET, NOT CENTRAL COLLEGE, GOING WEST TO NEW ALBANY ROAD TO GET TO 1 61. UM, I JUST THINK THAT THIS MAKES MUCH MORE SENSE ZONED AS IS AND IF WE CAN GO TO THE LAST SLIDE, PLEASE GO SEE WHY, UH I'M NOT GRAPHICALLY INCLINED, BUT THE ORANGE CIRCLE IS THE SCHOOL. THE RED BOXES ARE THE HAMLET. THE BLUE LINE IS 605 IN THE YELLOW AREA THAT'S HIGHLIGHTED IS AS BEST AS I COULD DRAW A SQUARE IN A MICROSOFT EXCEL. ALL OF THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE NORTH OF 1 61, WHOSE CHILDREN TAKE 605 TO GET TO SCHOOL. SO WHEN YOU ASKED ME WHY? WHY SHOULD MAYBE MAYBE IT'S WHY SHOULD WE NOT CONSIDER THE HIGHER DENSITY IN THE RED SQUARE ? I WOULD SAY, BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO IMPACT ALL THE KIDS GOING TO SCHOOL WON'T BE LABOR. THE POINT ABOUT SAFETY. UM YOU WANNA ASK ME AND MR MAYOR? YOU ASKED ME ONCE LAST YEAR. WHAT MAKES SENSE? IF THIS DOESN'T MAKE SENSE THERE WANT TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION RIGHT NOW. I THINK THERE IS A WIN. WITH A NEW DEVELOPMENT AT THIS SITE, AND I THINK IT IS 35 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, STEINER AND ASSOCIATES WINS WITH A PROFITABLE DEVELOPMENT. I THINK THE RESIDENTS WIN FROM A LOWER DENSITY. I THINK THE SCHOOL WINS MR. UNDER HILL'S OWN MATH SHOWS A SURPLUS, MAYBE NOT AS DRAMATIC , BUT THE SCHOOL'S COMING OUT IN THE BLACK IN TERMS OF DENSITY, AND I THINK THIS COUNCIL GETS A GIANT WIN FOR NAVIGATING A VERY STRESSFUL AND VERY CHALLENGING AND VERY DIFFICULT PROCESS. I THINK 35 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES IS THE RIGHT. AND DEVELOPMENT FOR THIS LAND. I THINK THE ZONING AS IS PERFECT. AND THAT IS WHY I DON'T THINK YOU SHOULD BE APPROVING A CHANGE IN THE ZONING . I REQUEST YOU TO SAY NO TO THIS ZONING CHANGE TONIGHT, OKAY? WE'RE GONNA TAKE. WE'RE GONNA TAKE ONE MORE SPEAKER AND THEN A SHORT BREAK. WE'VE BEEN AT IT FOR ABOUT THREE HOURS. SO NANCY ALEXANDER IS UP. AND AFTER OUR SHORT BREAK WOULD BE KELLY SIMPSON. SHORT BREAK LIKE 10 MINUTES. HI MY NAME IS NANCY ALEXANDER AND I LIVE AT 7347 NEW ALBANY LINKS DRIVE, AND I'LL MAKE MY COMMENTS BRIEF. UM I'M HERE TODAY AS SO MANY OF MY FELLOW NEIGHBORS ARE TO SPEAK OUT AGAINST THIS PROPOSED HAMLET DEVELOPMENT AND ITS PREVIOUS AND ITS CURRENT FORM. I WANT TO EXPRESS THE FACT THAT THE LEGALITIES AND TECHNICALITIES OF THESE DISCUSSIONS ARE DEFINITELY NOT MY FORTE. HOWEVER I'VE TAKEN TIME OUT OF MY BUSY SCHEDULE TO UNDERSTAND THE IMPACT THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT WILL HAVE ON NEW ALBANY. IN REVIEWING THE VARIOUS ITERATIONS OF THE HAMLET PLAN. THE STRATEGIC PLAN THE ENGAGED NEW ALBANY SURVEY RESULTS, THE TRAFFIC STUDIES THE SCHOOL IMPACT STUDIES CRIME RATES. I HAVE TO SAY THERE ARE SO MANY CONCERNS, VARIOUS RESIDENTS HAVE SPOKEN OF MAJOR TRAFFIC ISSUES, POPULATION DENSITY AND SCHOOL IMPACT, JUST TO NAME A FEW. I'M NOT GOING TO REITERATE THOSE SAME POINTS AS OTHERS HAVE ALREADY ADDRESSED THEM VERY ELOQUENTLY.

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BUT THE LAST TIME I WAS HERE, I'LL SAY IT AGAIN. I'M VERY IMPRESSED BY OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS. THEY HAVE TAKEN A LOT OF TIME TO PREPARE. MY NOTES ARE MUCH MORE CASUAL. AND SO I WILL NOT BE. IT'S FACTUAL IN THAT MINE IS PROBABLY MORE ANECDOTAL AND A BIT QUALITATIVE. BUT AGAIN WITH THE PERSPECTIVE I HAVE 25 YEARS . LIVING HERE COME FROM THE HEART, AND THAT'S WHAT I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT. UM WHEN IT CAME A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, MY SAME POINTS ARE AROUND TRAFFIC AND, UM, CRIME. THOSE ARE MY BIGGEST CONCERNS WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT TO WHERE WE LIVE. AND UM, I'M GLAD I HAD A COUPLE MORE WEEKS TO THINK ABOUT THE IMPACT OF SUGAR RUN. HERE'S THE THINGS THAT I THOUGHT ABOUT. MY TRAFFIC IS A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT SPIN. SO I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT. UM THIS. THIS THIS DEVELOPMENTS TALKED ABOUT 180 88 NEW HOMES, 500. ADDITIONS TO CAR RIDES IN 28 STUDENTS. WHAT I REALLY THOUGHT ABOUT A LOT IS THIS PRESENTATION FEELS VERY ISOLATED TO ME ON THE DEVELOPMENT ALONE. I THINK TONIGHT SOME RESIDENTS WENT A BIT BROADER. AND I LIKE THE SLIDES THAT I THINK HIS NAME WAS MATT HEAD THAT WENT A BIT BROADER BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE REALITIES. WE'RE NOT JUST LIVING AROUND THE THIS LITTLE DEVELOPMENT WERE LIVING AROUND THIS WHOLE AREA. SO, UM LET'S TALK ABOUT THE TRAFFIC. SO YOU'RE GONNA GET ABOUT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE 100 AND 88 HOMES.

WELL, WHAT WE'RE ALSO GOING TO HAVE WITH THAT. IS THE DELIVERY COMPANIES LIKE UPS, BUTTOCKS, AMAZON A LOT MORE OF THOSE DRIVERS DRIVING AROUND BECAUSE THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE A LOT MORE PROPERTIES TO SERVICE. WE'RE GONNA HAVE THE SERVICE CALLED TRAFFICS. THE SERVICE CALL TRAFFIC. FOR ELECTRIC GAS CABLE THOSE KIND OF DRIVERS. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE TRAFFIC

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NO, IT'S OKAY. I KNOW. I'M SORRY ABOUT HOW HOW DO WE UNDERSTAND TRAFFIC? NOT JUST FROM A PROJECT BASED PERSPECTIVE, BUT FROM A REGIONAL BASED PERSPECTIVE THAT TODAY IT'S VERY FAIR AND WHAT'S

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HOW IS THAT METHODOLOGY TAKEN FULLY INTO ACCOUNT TO UNDERSTAND ALL WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT THESE MEETINGS AND I'VE BEEN TO THREE OF THEM NOW IS THIS PROJECT IN THE 500 CARS ON REALISTIC SO WHAT'S THE METHODOLOGY? HAVE WE PREDICTED FOR IT? WHAT DOES IT MEAN FOR 1 61? HOW DO WE DO THAT? WE COULD ANSWER THIS IN, UM IN TWO DIFFERENT WAYS. THE FIRST THING IS, WE CAN ASK THE DEVELOPERS ENGINEERED TO TALK ABOUT THEIR STUDY AND THE METHODOLOGY THAT THEY USED IN SPECIFICALLY WHETHER OR NOT THEY USE THIS BACKGROUND TRAFFIC OR NOT IN IN THAT AND THEN ASK OUR ENGINEER TO VALIDATE THAT ANSWER OR NOT, OR WE COULD JUST ANSWER IT BROADLY AS TO WHAT TYPICALLY GOES INTO METHODOLOGY FOR A TRAFFIC STUDY, BUT THAT STUDY THAT THEY DID IS FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT. THAT DOES NOT BRING INTO PLAY ALL THE THINGS RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER FOR COLUMBUS. I THINK THAT'S WHAT THEY MAYBE NEED TO SHARE SO WE CAN LET THEM ANSWER WHAT'S IN THEIR STUDY, AND THEN VALIDATE WHETHER OR NOT WE HAVEN'T WE TALKED ABOUT IT AT LENGTH ALREADY. AND WE'VE NEVER TALKED ABOUT EVERYTHING ELSE BEING DEVELOPED AROUND US. WE NEVER TALKED ABOUT THE THINGS I JUST WENT THROUGH THE HEARTLAND BANK THE BUILDING NEXT DOOR. I THINK THEY CAN SHARE THAT INFORMATION. AND THAT GOES SO MY UNDERSTANDING FROM A BROAD PERSPECTIVE IS THAT THAT ALL GOES INTO THE TRAFFIC STUDY THAT THEY DO. IT'S NOT JUST A LOCALIZED TRAFFIC STUDY. IT IS A REGIONAL TRAFFIC STUDY DESCRIBE THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE SPECIFICALLY. UM SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THAT OTHER? WE'VE NEVER HEARD THIS. I BELIEVE I'VE NEVER HEARD IT. WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THAT THESE THE THIS INDEPENDENT STUDY THEY DID EXPECTED IN ALL NEW DEVELOPMENT TO COME BY COLUMBUS AREAS CLOSE TO US AS WELL AS AN SIX OR FIVE AS WELL AS AN BUBBLE HEIMER. ALL OF THAT HAS BEEN TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION AS THE PROJECTION FOR THE 500. JUST 500 CARS COMES TO PLAY. IS THAT RIGHT? THEM ANSWER THAT FEEL LIKE INTRODUCE YOURSELF, MAYBE WITH CARPENTER, MARTY TRANSPORTATION TRANSPORTATION PLANNER. UM THE STUDY DOES ACCOUNT FOR REGIONAL GROWTH THROUGH MORE BUSY, SO WE PROVIDE THE COUNT DATA THAT WE COLLECT TWO MORE PC, AND THEY USE THEIR REGIONAL TRAVEL DEMAND MODEL, WHICH BASICALLY HAS STARTED. CAN YOU ELABORATE, SO EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT IS MORE PC ? THE MIDDLE HIGHER REGIONAL PLANNING COMMISSION. SORRY THEY HAVE A TRAVEL DEMAND MODEL THROUGH THEIR ENTIRE STUDY AREA, WHICH YOU KNOW GOES UP TO DELAWARE AND SOUTH DOWN TO SOUTH OF 2 70 DON'T REMEMBER THE EXACT LIMITS, BUT ESSENTIALLY, THEY PROVIDE US WITH BACKGROUND GROWTH RATES SO WE CAN PROJECT THE VOLUMES. 10 YEARS INTO THE FUTURE, ASSUMING, YOU KNOW GENERAL REGIONAL GROWTH, AND SO WE GET DIFFERENT RATES. WE APPLY THOSE RATES TO THE COUNT DATA WE COLLECT AND THEN, UM, TO ANSWER THE OTHER QUESTION ABOUT THE TRIP GENERATION. SO UM, THE TRIPS THAT WE GENERATE FOR THESE DEVELOPMENTS IS BASED ON NATIONAL DATA. SO IT E, WHICH IS THE INSTITUTE OF TRANSPORTATION ENGINEERS. UM, HAS A COLLECTION OF DATA THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY. YOU KNOW, SUBURBAN AREAS, URBAN AREAS WHERE THEY'VE, YOU KNOW, COLLECTED DATA AT VARIOUS DEVELOPMENTS THAT INCLUDE THINGS LIKE GARBAGE DELIVERY, ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF AND WE GET TRIP GENERATION RATES PER UNITS, AND THEN THOSE ARE EXTRAPOLATED OUT TO WHAT THE DEVELOPMENT ISN'T ANTICIPATING. SO THAT'S HOPEFULLY THAT ANSWERS THOSE QUESTIONS. SO YOU ACTUALLY TAKE ACCOUNT IF I UNDERSTAND THIS RIGHT? YOU TAKE ACCOUNT OF ACTUAL CARS THAT GO THROUGH THAT AREA WHEREVER YOU HAVE HIM FOR WHATEVER TIME PERIOD WHERE WE'RE TALKING TO PERIOD TIME PERIODS HERE AND THEN WHATEVER THAT NUMBER IS THAN YOU PROJECT OUT, BASED ON THE OTHER UNITS OF MEASUREMENT THAT YOU'RE GETTING SO THE 500. IT WASN'T NECESSARILY HOW MANY CARS CAME THROUGH THERE. BUT THAT WOULD BE A POTENTIAL WITH GROWTH WITH ALL THOSE OTHER EDITED THINGS. IS THAT MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WE TAKE THE COUNT DATA THAT WE COLLECT, WE GET THE MORE PROJECTIONS AND APPLY THOSE TO THE COUNT DATA, WHICH ESSENTIALLY ALLOWS US TO PREDICT 10 YEARS IN THE FUTURE, AND THEN WE ADD THE DEVELOPMENT TRAFFIC. ON TOP OF THAT. TO ASSESS WHAT TRANSPORTATION NEEDS ARE REQUIRED. ALRIGHT BUILDING THE STATE CORRECT ASSESSMENT, RIGHT . SEE AS END OF YOUR CORRECT AND THE ORIGINAL STUDY DID NOT INCLUDE THE DISCOVER COMPLEX AS A CALL CENTER. BUT AS AS THE CITY MENTIONED, WE DID DO AN ADDENDUM TO THE STUDY AND EVALUATE, ASSUMING I THINK IT WAS 88 EMPLOYEES PER 1000 SQUARE FEET, WHICH IS PRETTY AGGRESSIVE. UM ALRIGHT, ACCOUNTED FOR THAT AS WELL. AND THOSE IS ALSO, UH, YET INCLUDED THE POTENTIAL FOR THE TRAFFIC FOR INTEL. THEY SHOULD HAVE. YES, OKAY. WELL IT'S THAT STUDY AREA IS WITHIN THEIR MODEL. SO THAT SHOULD BE ACCOUNTED FOR. YES IT'S IN THE INTEL PROJECT IS IN THE MORRISSEY STUDY, BECAUSE WHEN WE DID OUR TRAFFIC ANALYSIS FOR WHAT ROADS WILL BE IMPROVED AS A PART OF THAT PROJECT, WE USED MORE OH, DOT IN ORDER TO UM , DO THAT ANALYSIS AND SO ALL THAT INFORMATION HAS BEEN UP TO

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NEW TRIPS. UM FOR ONE THING I WANT TO MAKE CLEAR TO IS IF YOU ENTER SOME PLACE AND LEAVE A PLACE THAT IS TWO TRIPS. UM SO WE'RE TALKING 99 ENTRY IN THE MORNING 1 11 EXIT IN THE MORNING. 1 15 ENTRY IN THE EVENING 1 18 EXIT IN THE EVENING. THAT IS THE DURING THE HIGHEST PEAK HOUR IN THE MORNING AND THE HIGHEST PEAK HOUR IN THE EVENING. THE COUNT DATA DOES. SO THE COUNT DATA SHOWS, YOU KNOW 7 30 TO 8 30 IN THE MORNING IS THE PEAK HOUR. AND THEN THE EVENING, I BELIEVE IS 4 TO 5. DOUBLE CHECK. FACTOR IN THE SCHOOL. 20 BUSSES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. WHICH ARE DIFFERENT. ONE THING WE DID PROVIDE TO THE CITY , AND THEIR REQUEST WAS THE VOLUME COMPARISONS. UM THE PM PEAK VOLUMES OR I THINK DAVE, YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. I THINK 40% HIGHER THAN THE SCHOOL, A MP UM SO THOSE ARE THOSE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WE LOOKED AT THE SCHOOL. THE SCHOOL TRAFFIC PROBLEMS LIKE 15 MINUTE PROBLEM. YOU KNOW, IT'S WE LOOK AT THE ENTIRE HOUR. EXCUSE ME. ACTUALLY. OKAY I'LL TRY TO RAMP UP HERE BECAUSE I AM VERY CONSCIOUS OF THE TIME, BUT I HOPE YOU UNDERSTAND MY POINTS HERE. I REALLY DON'T UM I DON'T HAVE CONFIDENCE IN THE TRAFFIC STUDY. I REALLY DON'T AND AGAIN AS I DROVE AROUND TODAY AND WROTE DOWN ALL THESE NEW PLACES TO COME, WHETHER THEY'RE OVERRIDE BY L. C AND BY WALGREENS, ETCETERA, NO MATTER WHAT THERE'S GOING TO BE TRAFFICKED, AND BECAUSE OF ALL THE DEVELOPMENT OVER BY THE ALL THESE AND EVERYWHERE ELSE, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO COME RIGHT DOWN CENTRAL COLLEGE. USE IT FOR THE OTHER HIGHWAY AND GO AND GET ON THE HIGHWAYS AND HIGHWAYS AND CONTINUE TO, YOU KNOW, DO THEIR BUSINESS OVER AT ALDI AND SHEETS AND EVERYTHING ELSE SO I'M TALKING FROM THE HEART AND IT TOTALLY BEFORE I WRAP UP HERE. I DO WANT TO TALK A SECOND ABOUT CRIME, AND I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT IT FROM A PERSONAL STANDPOINT. HERE. UM IT'S A QUICK STORY. I'LL MAKE IT VERY QUICK. YOU KNOW, ON THE NIGHT BEFORE THANKSGIVING. I WAS WITH MY SON, AND WE'RE PUTTING UP OUR CHRISTMAS VILLAGE IN OUR LIVING ROOM DINING ROOM, AND WE SAW A CAR LOITERING IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD BY THE POND WHERE THERE'S NO HOMES. THERE'S WE'RE IN A CALL THE SECOND THE FRONT AND IT WAS CONCERNING AND WE HAVE GREAT NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH.

SO I CALLED THE POLICE AND IT WAS GREAT. WE LOVE OUR POLICE AND THEY CAME OVER RATHER QUICKLY AND THE CAR HAD ALREADY LEFT. BUT WHEN THEY WHEN THEY ARRIVED, SO I FELT REALLY GOOD ABOUT THAT. BUT A COUPLE OF NIGHTS LATER AND WENT WITH CROSSING. WE HAVE A COMMUNITY GROUP FOR NEIGHBORHOOD AND ON 12 TO A NEIGHBORHOOD REPORTED THATE THAT CAR BURGLARS ARE OUT AS THEY TRIED TO GET INTO SEVERAL CARS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND ON 12 3. THERE WAS SIMILAR FOOTAGE OF ANOTHER, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE COMING THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD WITH FLASHLIGHTS LOOKING IN CARS, AND IT'S ON FOOTAGE. SO I'M GOING TO SAY TO YOU I HAVE NEVER FELT IN NEW ALBANY AND MY 25 YEARS OF LIVING HERE, WORRIED ABOUT THESE THINGS. I'VE NEVER FELT LIKE THIS UNTIL THE LAST FIVE YEARS. I MEAN, I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT I'M SEEING THAT AND FOOTAGE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, ALTHOUGH IT'S PROBABLY ALWAYS HAPPEN TO SOME DEGREE, BUT I REALLY AM CONCERNED AS A RESIDENT THAT THIS IS ONLY GOING TO INCREASE AS WE CONTINUE TO GROW AND WE ARE GOING TO GROW.

BUT I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THAT GROWTH AND WHERE IT'S PUT SO IN CLOSING. I JUST REALLY I ASKED

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THANKS. ALL RIGHT. PATRICIA IS UP NEXT, AND I JUST WANT TO SEE HIS, UH, JOEL RETURN AS TROLLS.

JOE WAS THE FIRST ONE SPOKE. IS THAT WHAT HAPPENED? OKAY, MAYBE FOR THAT TWO SHEETS. POSSIBLE ALRIGHT, SORRY. TRICIA'S UP. AND THEN WHEN THE BLANCO. HELLO. PATRICIA IF YOU GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS THANK YOU. TRICIA STICKNEY 7267 ROBBERY LINKS DRIVE. I AM THE PRESIDENT OF NEW ALBANY LINKS AWAY WE HAVE ABOUT 600 HOMEOWNERS, INCLUDING THE DEPENDING CLUB. UM, I WANTED TO THANK CITY COUNCIL FOR VOTING NO TO THE PROPOSAL LAST FALL. I ALSO WANT TO REMIND YOU THAT THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT OUR COMMUNITY WANTS. PROBABLY DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT TO ME. AS YOU KNOW, THERE HAS BEEN AN OVERWHELMING OPPOSITION FROM THE START. WE'RE NOT AGAINST CHANGE, DEVELOPMENT OR GROWTH, BUT WE ARE AGAINST PUTTING A HAMLET IN THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION. WHICH HAS MET POINTED OUT IS DIRECTLY IN THE PATH MY PAST THEIR PATH OF NORTH IN ALBANY RESIDENTS AND ARE ONLY SPOKE CAMPUS AND OUR CITY CENTER. THE COMMUNITY WANTED PARK SINGLE FAMILY HOMES IN WAKE ABILITY. WE DON'T WANT IT DON'T MIX USED DEVELOPMENT ON THIS PARTICULAR CORNER. NORTH NEW ALBANY SHOULD BE JUST AS BEAUTIFUL, CHARMING, WALKABLE AND WELL THOUGHT OUT AS IT IS SOUTH OF 1 61. I ASK THAT YOU PUT THE WISHES AND BEST INTERESTS OF THE PEOPLE YOU REPRESENT ABOUT THE INTERESTS OF ONE LIEN, OWNER. AND DO NOT APPROVE THIS REZONING TONIGHT.

AT THE VERY LEAST, WE SHOULD HAVE. AND THESE ARE ALL MY NOTES FROM JUST TONIGHT. I'VE LEARNED SO MUCH JUST BY LISTENING TO MY NEIGHBORS. I JUST I'M SO IMPRESSED WITH THE AMOUNT OF WORK AND TIME THAT MY NEIGHBORS HAVE PUT INTO THIS AND I KNOW SOME OF YOU. I DON'T KNOW OTHERS. SO UM, I REALLY APPRECIATE IT BECAUSE I CERTAINLY AM NOT THAT SMART. SO BUT AT THE VERY LEAST, I THINK THAT WE SHOULD HAVE A TRAFFIC STUDY THAT WE CAN TRUST. RIGHT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT REGIONAL. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FIELD HOUSES WAS INTEL PART OF THE EQUATION, RIGHT? WAS IT PAID FOR A FIGHT BY THE DEVELOPER LIKE ALL THESE THINGS, GIVE PEOPLE A LOT OF DISTRUST ABOUT THAT PART OF THE PROCESS. UM WE SHOULD ALSO HAVE STANDARDS THAT WE CAN TRUST.

RIGHT. WE HAVE GOOD STANDARDS. WE'VE NEVER DONE THIS BEFORE. BUT SOME OF US FEEL THAT IDENTITY IS TOO HIGH. WHY DOES IT HAVE TO BE 6 TO 1? CAN IT BE 3 TO 1 CANNOT BE TOO TO ONE. I DON'T KNOW THAT ANSWER. UM BUT THERE IS SOME STANDARDS. FOR INSTANCE, I'M LOOKING AT THE ZONING TEXT AND IT LOOKS LIKE IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE ALL BRICK ARCHITECTURE ALONG THE ROOF WAY , RIGHT. SO IF YOU GO DOWNTOWN UPTOWN WHATEVER YOU WANT TO COME FROM WESTERVILLE, WE CALLED IT UPTOWN. BUT IF YOU LOOK AT DOWNTOWN, IT'S ALL BRICK FRONT, RIGHT? SO I'M SEEING IN THE ZONING TEXT THAT IT CAN BE CONCRETE OR CITING SO IT SHOULD BE JUST AS BEAUTIFUL. NORTH OF 1 61 AS IT IS SOUTH OF 1 61. SO I URGE YOU TO LOOK AT SOME OF THESE STANDARDS AND JUST BECAUSE WE CHECKED THE BOX DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE'RE CHECKING THEM RIGHT? AND I'M SO SORRY IF THIS PERSON IS WATCHING, AND I DON'T KNOW WHO THEY ARE, TO BE HONEST, BECAUSE AS A AS A TWO WAY, UM AS AN H TWO A BOARD MEMBER. IF YOU SUBMIT SOMETHING, WE VOTE ON IT, RIGHT. SO WE MY EXAMPLE IS THAT WE HAVE STANDARDS IN PLACE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, RIGHT? OTHERS IN PLACE. AND IF YOU FOLLOW THE RULES, AND YOU, YOU YOU FOLLOW THE PROCEDURE THAT EVERYBODY HAS TO FOLLOW. WE VOTE ON IT, RIGHT? SO WE VOTED FOR THIS ONE PARTICULAR UM, RESIDENT TO PAINT THEIR HOUSE, RIGHT? UM. NOBODY LOVES IT. I GOT A TON OF TEXT THAT DAY. OH MY GOSH. MY NEIGHBORS PAINTING THEIR HOUSE.

WHAT IS HAPPENING? IT'S AWFUL. I DON'T KNOW IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE APPROVED RIGHT. THEY WENT THROUGH THE PROPER PROCESSES. THEY CHECKED ALL THE BOXES, RIGHT? GOT APPROVAL. BUT WHAT WE DIDN'T DO IS WE DIDN'T ORDER THE DETAILS AND TO YOUR POINT, THE DEVIL'S IN THE DETAILS, AND THAT'S A LITTLE BIT WHAT SOME OF US ARE MOST CONCERNED ABOUT. UM SO AT THE VERY LEAST, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO HAVE A TRAFFIC STUDY THAT HAPPENED FAST. HAVE STANDARDS THAT ARE COMPLETE THAT WE CAN TRUST. UM WE'VE GOT TO SCHOOL ENROLMENT PROJECTIONS STUDY COMING OUT. WHAT'S THE HURRY? CAN WE WAIT FOR THAT? DO WE NEED IT TODAY? WE'VE BEEN PRESSED THAT I CAN'T TALK. I GET NERVOUS. I'M NOT A VERY GOOD PUBLIC SPEAKER, BUT I'M WORKING ON GETTING GREAT PRACTICE BY THE LAST 16 MONTHS. SO I FEEL LIKE I'M BACK IN COLLEGE. UM, SO WE'VE BEEN PROMISED PARK AMENITIES, RIGHT? SO THE WHOLE THING WAS THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A GREAT PLACE THAT WE'RE

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YOU GOT SOME TEENAGER TEXTING AND ANOTHER TEENAGER. YOU KNOW, WALKING ACROSS THE ROAD ON HIS PHONE, TEXTING WITH THIS JUST HOW SCARED THE CRAP OUT OF ME. IT JUST HAPPENED TO BE IN FRONT OF THE SCHOOL. I AM LOOKING. THE KIDS AREN'T THERE WALKING AND THEY'RE ON THEIR PHONE AND THEY CROSS RIGHT OVER ROSE RUN, RIGHT. SO THAT SCARES ME IS ARE THERE GOING TO BE BARRIERS? AND SHOULD THAT BE A STANDARD THAT THESE BARRIERS IF SOMEBODY BREACHES THE SIDEWALK THAT THEY HIT THIS BARRIER FIRST. UM AND I'VE TOLD THIS STORY BEFORE I WAS AT EASTERN WITH MY DAUGHTER, AND THIS WAS A FEW YEARS AGO FOUR YEARS AGO, MAYBE WHEN WE WERE WALKING AND I'M HOLDING HER HAND AND SHE'S JUST SKIPPING ALONG AND SHE STOPPED AND I KIND OF LOOK AROUND MY KITTY. WHERE'D YOU GO? AND SHE TWIRLS LIKE AROUND A TREE, WHICH SEEMS HARMLESS ENOUGH. I GRABBED HER HAND AND WE START WALKING AND A GUY HIT THAT TREE RIGHT BEHIND ME. AND SHE WAS RIGHT THERE.

EXCUSE THE CRAP ENEMY, RIGHT. SO I NOW DON'T WALK WITHOUT MY CHILD LIKE ON THE INSIDE BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO HIT ME FIRST. RIGHT SO CAN WE PUT BARRIERS THERE? SHOULD THAT BE A STANDARD, RIGHT? UM SO I FEEL I FEEL LIKE WE KEEP HEARING THAT. OH, THIS IS IN THE FINAL PLAN, AND THAT'S IN THE FINAL PLAN AND I GET IT. THIS ISN'T THE FINAL PLAN. THIS IS A VISION. BUT I FEEL LIKE SOME OF THESE THINGS SHOULD BE TALKED ABOUT NOW, BECAUSE HOW DO WE KNOW HOW MUCH ROOM WE HAVE TO FILL? ROUNDABOUT IS WARRANTED. HOW DO WE KNOW HOW MUCH ROOM IS NEEDED? IF THINGS DON'T MATCH UP AT THE ENCLAVE ENTRANCE? RIGHT. SO HOW DO WE KNOW THESE THINGS? HOW CAN WE JUSTIFY MAKING A DECISION TODAY? BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HERE FOR HOURS THINKING ABOUT ALL OF THE CONDITIONS THAT WOULD TAKE TO GIVE A YES WITH ANY CONFIDENCE AT ALL. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, TRICIA TRICIA IN QUESTION. CHRISTOPHER STEPHEN, COULD YOU ADDRESS THE ARCHITECTURAL MATERIAL THAT IS THAT IT'S GOING TO BE USED FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT.

THE QUALITY OF THAT MATERIAL. YES SO THE ZONING TEXT ALLOWS FOR BRICK OR HARDY PLANK MATERIAL TO BE USED DOES NOT ALLOW FOR LIKE VINYL SIGHTINGS OF USED ANYWHERE. IT IS NOT KNOW AND EXPOSED CONCRETE FOUNDATIONS ARE PROHIBITED THROUGHOUT THE ZONING DISTRICT, SO THEY CANNOT HAVE EXPOSED. THEY HAVE TO HAVE SOME KIND OF BRICK OR CORRECT. YEAH. RIGHT BREAK FROM HERE IS ALSO INCLUDED IN THE TEXT THAT'S CORRECT. TO CEMENT THAT'S THE HARDY PLANT. THAT'S THE HARDY PLANT MATERIAL. YEAH OKAY. AND CHRIS IS IT DOES IT DIFFER? WHAT FACES CENTRAL COLLEGE AND 605 OR THE STANDARDS THE STANDARDS APPLY THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE DISTRICT? THAT AND I GUESS THE LAST DEVELOPER ERIN, COMPARED, DOES THAT COMPARE TO WHAT WE'RE CURRENTLY SEEING? AND OTHER AREAS OF THE COMMUNITY. IN TERMS OF THE STANDARDS. YES IT DOES. UM I WOULD SAY THAT THAT LANGUAGE IN TERMS OF A LIST OF MATERIALS IS CONSISTENT THROUGHOUT MOST OF THE RESIDENTIAL ENVIRONMENTS. I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN HERE IN RECENT YEARS. ALSO THE GRS APPLY. COULD YOU EXPLAIN WHAT THAT IS? BUT DESIGN GUIDELINES AND REQUIREMENTS, WHICH ARE A PRETTY SIGNIFICANTLY, UH, SIGNIFICANT IN TERMS OF THEIR SIZE AND DEPTH NUMBER OF STATE ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS THAT APPLY DIFFERENT TYPES OF DEVELOPMENT IN THE COMMUNITY INCORPORATED INTO THE ZONING CODE BY REFERENCE, SO IN ADDITION TO LOOKING AT THE CODE WHEN YOU'RE DESIGNING A STRUCTURE OF ANY SORT, YOU NEED TO GO TO THOSE REQUIREMENTS WE HAVE NOT EXEMPTED OURSELVES FROM I WAS AT ALL NOW YOU'VE YOU'VE MENTIONED SEVERAL TIMES THAT THIS WILL BE SIMILAR TO WHAT? WE'RE LOOKING AT A CASE WORKER RICHMOND SQUARE. SO WE CAN WE JUST CAN WE CONFIDENTLY ASSUME

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AND YOU KNOW YOUR DECISION, WHICH I GET. YOU KNOW, I DO GET BACK, BUT, YOU KNOW THE PEOPLE ARE SPEAKING AND, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW YOU LISTEN AND YOU KNOW ONE ONCE YOU GUYS MAKE UP YOUR MIND WITH AGAIN, I FEEL LIKE YOU HAVE I DO REALLY, REALLY THINK THAT WHAT GOES IN THERE HAS TO BE THE SAME QUALITY TOO. WHAT'S OUT HERE? YOU KNOW, IT HAS TO BE. YOU KNOW, IT'S I MEAN, RIGHT NOW, LIKE I DON'T SEE IT HERE. YOU KNOW, I DON'T SEE A WALGREENS HERE. I DON'T YOU KNOW, I DON'T SEE ANY OF THAT, YOU KNOW, ARE THESE TYPE OF STUFF IT'S USUALLY OVER THERE , AND IF YOU DRIVE OVER THERE DOESN'T LOOK NICE. IT'S LIKE THE FORGOTTEN AREA, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S UNDERDEVELOPED. YOU KNOW, AND WHICH. WHICH IS FUN, BECAUSE BASICALLY THAT'S WHAT WE WANT.

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YOU KNOW IT. I DON'T AGREE WITH THE TOWN HOMES. I HAVE NO CLUE WHAT A FLAT AND IN MY HEAD I FEEL LIKE IT SOUNDS BAD. IN MY HEAD. I'M THINKING, YOU KNOW. BECAUSE NOBODY EVER TALKS ABOUT THE FLAT. I FEEL LIKE YOU KNOW, IT WAS KIND OF UNDER THE ROOF. TYPE OF THING. EVERYBODY'S FORGETTING ABOUT IT BEFORE. AND I JUST THERE'S A QUESTION LET'S FIND OUT, UNDERSTAND HOW IT CAN BE. APPROVED BASICALLY IF THERE'S ALL THESE PASSIONS YOU KNOW, IT'S THERE'S ALL THIS CONFUSION. AND THERE'S JUST ALL THESE QUESTIONS. HOW CAN IT BE A YOU KNOW, I DON'T GET IT. THAT'S IT. APPRECIATE CARLY. MAYBE JUST MAYBE YOU CAN HELP US. UNDERSTAND WHAT? YEAH YOU SEE THE TERM FLAT IN THE DESIGN? WHAT WHAT? WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A BRITISH TERM FOR APARTMENT.

CHRIS YOU'VE GOT THE GOT PROBABLY. IT CAN BE A CONDOM. YEAH. THESE ARE REPRESENTING PEOPLE. NO THAT'S PART OF THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN PROCESS. BACK. SO. I WANT TO THE PUY DE PROCESS HAS BEEN A LITTLE BIT, UH LITTLE MORE IN COMMON THAN IT USED TO BE AROUND HERE, BUT WE ALL NEED TO RECALL THAT THE MAIN THE MAIN ORIGINAL DEVELOPMENT IN NEW ALBANY. WAS THE 1998 P U D.

THEY DID EXACTLY THIS, ACCEPT THE RULES AND WE SEE THE BUILT COMMUNITY THAT WE HAVE FROM THAT 1998 P U D THAT CONTAIN THOUSANDS OF ACRES. WE'RE IN THE SAME SORT OF PROCESS HERE SO THAT PROCESS IS IN PLACE TO PROVIDE SECONDARY REVIEW SET THE RULES. AND THEN YOU DEMONSTRATE HOW YOU'RE GOING TO MEET ALL THOSE UNDERLYING RULES WITH THAT SECONDARY REVIEW, SO THIS IS NOT A FOREIGN CONCEPT. IN FACT, MUCH OF NEW ALBANY HAS BEEN DEVELOPED UNDER THAT SYSTEM. UH SO THESE ARE IMAGES JUST TO GIVE CONTEXT . WE KIND OF INHERITED THE TERM FLATS. I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT WAS IN THE STRATEGIC PLAN. THE KIND OF THE PLAN THAT WAS INCLUDED. USE THAT TERMINOLOGY. I BELIEVE THERE WAS ACTUALLY 60 65 UNITS IN THAT PLAN, WE ACTUALLY REDUCED THE NUMBER DOWN TO 40.

AND SO FOR US FLATS ARE YEAH, THEY'RE EITHER APARTMENTS OR CONDOS THAT ARE ON A SINGLE LEVEL. SO AGAIN, JUST TO KIND OF REALLY REITERATE. THE BOTTOM RIGHT IS AN EXAMPLE OF A CONDO BUILDING. THOSE ARE TOO BAD 2.5 BATHS. 1500 SQUARE FEET PROVIDED A HANDFUL OF DIFFERENT LOCATIONS WHERE THAT TYPE OF PRODUCT IS CURRENTLY EXISTS. AND THEN YES, THERE ARE THERE COULD BE SOME PORTION OF THOSE FLATS. HOWEVER WE DEFINE IT THAT COULD BE APARTMENTS AND SAID ABOUT 20 OF THOSE, UH AND THAT'S REALLY GOING TO MATCH UP WITH MARKET IN MAINE. YOU KNOW THAT'S THE QUALITY. THE PRICE POINT THE AMENITIES. IT'S THE DESIGN KIND OF QUALITY AND INTEGRITY THAT WE'RE PROPOSING. SO TO CLARIFY OUT OF THE 190 POTENTIAL UNITS. 20 COULD BE REYNOLDS. YEAH. WE HAVE 40 FLATS OUT OF 188. BUT BUT. HE SAID. I SAID CURRENTLY WE'RE ASSUMING ABOUT 50% OF THOSE TO BE CONDOS AND 50% TO BE BETWEEN OUT OF 190 UNITS. SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 20 AND 40.

UNITS. GLOBALLY TOWNHOUSES FLATS. SINGLE FAMILY. WILL BE REYNOLDS. YES. HAS THAT ABILITY WON'T BE TOWNHOUSE RENTALS. THAT'S NOT THE INTENTION BELIEF. FLATS. OR PERMITS JUST THE NETS IN THAT LOCATION IN SOME AREAS. SUMMIT ONE AND TWO. WILL BE AROUND THE COMMERCIAL CENTER WILL BE THE FLATS WILL BE LOCATED CORRECT 40 FLATS AND YOUR EXPECTATION IS 20 OF THOSE

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CORRECT 4000 AND THEY'RE CONTINUING TO BUILD. MY MOM JUST BOUGHT A CONDO OVER THERE, AND THEY'RE CONTINUING TO BUILD THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE THE CONDOS. I WENT THROUGH WRAPPED OUT EVERY SINGLE ONE. I LOOKED ON THEIR WEBSITE TO SEE HOW MANY UNITS THEY HAD. 4000 LET'S JUST REMEMBER THAT OF THAT THAT IS DENSITY. WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THE DENSITY. THAT'S WHY WE DON'T WANT YOU TO APPROVE THIS. THE DENSITY IS WHAT'S THERE AND OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, WHICH OFFICER KELLY IS AMAZING. BY THE WAY, OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT IS SPECTACULAR. I'M NOT THAT FEARFUL. YES, WE DO HAVE CRIME. WE DON'T LIVE IN A BUBBLE. SOME DAYS. WE WANT TO FEEL LIKE WE DO, BUT WE DON'T. I'VE NEVER WORRIED ABOUT MY KIDS GOING OUTSIDE TO PLAY. I'VE NEVER WORRIED ABOUT THAT. I WAS FREAKED OUT TODAY, KNOWING THAT MY KIDS WERE LEAVING SCHOOL, AND SOMETIMES THEY STOP AT GIANT EAGLE AND OH, BY THE WAY. THEY HAD A ROBBERY AT GUNPOINT TODAY.

AND OVER AT TARGET. IT'S BLEEDING IN THIS AREA. AS YOU HAVE MORE DENSITY IT LEADS IN MORE PERIOD. I AM NOT SAYING THAT THIS IS A COLUMBUS VERSUS NEW ALBANY ISSUE. WHAT I AM SAYING IS THAT WE HAVE MORE RESOURCES AT OUR DISPOSAL IN WHAT IS THAT GOING TO DO TO OUR FANTASTIC POLICE DEPARTMENT ARE FANTASTIC FIRE DEPARTMENT. IN WHAT STRESS? IS IT GOING TO PUT ON THEM WITH ALL OF THIS OTHER DEVELOPMENT WITH INTEL BEING BUILT? THE OTHER THING THAT I FOUND IS THAT I REMEMBERED WHEN I FIRST SPOKE TO COUNCIL AND I MENTIONED ABOUT THE DENSITY IN ABOUT THE CRIME THAT CAN BRING IN. MR SIGNER ASKED ME AFTERWARDS WHY? I THOUGHT ALL PEOPLE IN APARTMENT WAS FOR BAD AND MR HUNTER HILL STATED THE SAME THING AT THE ZONING COMMISSION. I DON'T THINK PEOPLE IN APARTMENTS ARE BACK. I THINK THEY BRING DENSITY, WHICH ATTRACTS CRIME, WHICH ATTRACTS MORE ISSUES. I LIVED AT SUGAR RUN THE ORIGINAL APARTMENTS THAT WERE OVER THERE WHEN WE FIRST GOT MARRIED IN 2001. I LOVE NEW ALBANY. I WANTED TO MOVE BACK.

MY HUSBAND AND I WORKED REALLY HARD SO WE COULD MOVE BACK HERE SO WE COULD SEND OUR CHILDREN TO THESE SCHOOLS. WE DON'T WANT THIS ENTITY. MY NIECES LIVE IN THE L. C MY ONE NIECE HAS A BIG OLD DOG BECAUSE SHE IS NERVOUS BECAUSE OF THE CRIME THAT HAS HAPPENED OVER THERE. SHE IS NERVOUS TO LEAVE HER CAR OUTSIDE . LUCKILY, MY OTHER NIECE AND HER HUSBAND ARE ABLE TO PARK THEIR CAR IN THE GARAGE, BUT THEY ACTUALLY HAD PEOPLE BREAK INTO THEIR APARTMENT. SO DON'T TELL ME THAT DENSITY AND APARTMENT. IT'S NOT THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE. IT'S A MATTER OF THE CRIME THAT ATTRACTS THE OTHER THING THAT AMAZES ME THROUGHOUT. ALL OF THIS IS THAT

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AND I KNOW THE DEVELOPER WHO OWNS THAT LAND IS NEW ALBANY COMPANY BEHIND CBS AND THE DEVELOPER WHO OWNS PART OF THE LAND AT THE HAMLET IS ALSO NEW ALBANY COMPANY. SO OF COURSE, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO SAY THAT THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE COMPETITION THERE WILL 100% COMPETITION AND IF THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE, HERE'S MY QUESTION, HOW ARE THEY GOING TO STAY IN BUSINESS OVER THERE IF THEY'RE NOT ATTRACTING PEOPLE FROM NEW ALBANY? AND HERE'S MY OTHER QUESTION, WHERE ARE WE GOING TO PARK? BECAUSE YOU SAY YOU WANT TO WALKABLE AND THERE'S GOING TO BE SURFACE LOTS AND THERE'S GOING TO BE THESE FLATS. AND THERE'S GOING TO BE THESE TOWNS.

HOMES WERE AS EVERYBODY PARKING HAVE YOU TRIED TO PARK AT THE L. C. IT'S HARD THEY'RE FULL. IN THE OTHER QUESTION THAT I HAVE FOR YOU AND THIS IS NOT A RHETORICAL QUESTION. BUT YOU SAY YOU'VE BUILT OTHER HAMLETS. WHERE ARE THOSE? WE HAVE BUILT PROJECTS OF ALL SCALES, NOT WE HAVE NOT BUILT A HAMLET WE'VE BUILT PROJECTS ON FIVE ACRES. WE'VE BUILT PROJECTS ON 30 ACRES. WE'VE BUILT PROJECTS ON 60 ACRES. WE BUILT AQUARIUMS. WE BUILT A WHOLE COLLECTION OF VERY SUCCESSFUL PROJECTS. SO ESSENTIALLY, WHAT THAT TELLS ME IS THAT THAT THE HAMLET, THIS IS THEIR FIRST GO AND THEY'RE USING OUR COMMUNITY IS THE GUINEA PIGS, AND I DON'T LIKE IT. THE OTHER THING IS THAT AS WE'RE SITTING HERE, AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TRAFFIC, AND THE ONE THING THAT I SAW IN THE TRAFFIC STUDY , THAT MAP PUT UP WAS THAT THE TIMING WAS FROM 7 30 TO 8 30.

THOSE WERE DEPICTED AS THE PEAK HOURS WAS IT ONLY COUNTED AT 7 38 BETWEEN 7:38:30 A.M. AND IT WAS ONLY COUNTED BETWEEN FIVE AND SIX. ANYBODY'S HIGH SCHOOL MY KIDS LEAVE FOR SCHOOL AT 7 15. OKAY? ELEMENTARY SCHOOL STARTS LATER. SO THAT'S MY QUESTION. YOU ONLY COUNTED FOR TWO HOURS. IS THAT CORRECT? YOU COUNTED ALL DAY. SO WHEN DID YOU COME? LEARN TO FEEL REINTRODUCE YOURSELF WITH THE RECORDING. DREW LOREN CARPENTER, MARTY TRANSPORTATION, THE COUNSELOR COLLECTED FROM 7 TO 9 A.M. AND THEN 2 TO 6 P.M, AND WE PICKED THE HIGHEST OUR BETWEEN THOSE TWO RANGES. SO I HAVE A QUESTION . ONLY YOUR TRACK YOUR MIKE MIKE. YOU YOU DIDN'T TRACK THE REST OF THE DAY. YOU JUST TRACK THOSE COUPLE HOURS. CORRECT. THAT'S THE INDUSTRY STANDARD. WE LOOK AT THE MORNING PEAK HOUR IN THE EVENING PEAK HOUR. SO MY QUESTION. SO WHEN YOU SAY IT, ADDS 200, OR WHATEVER THE NUMBER IS. THAT'S IN ADDITION TO HOW MANY OTHER CARS PASSED THAT ROAD DURING THE COURSE OF THE DAY. YOU DON'T KNOW THAT BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T MEASURE IT RIGHT? THAT INFORMATION COULD BE PROVIDED, BUT I DON'T HAVE IT ON HAND RIGHT NOW. JUST ASK IF YOU DIDN'T MEASURE IT. HOW DO YOU KNOW WHAT IT IS? WE CAN ESTIMATE THE TRIP GENERATION FOR THE SITE FOR A FULL PERIOD OF THE DAY. BASED ON THE TRIP GENERATION. I ASKED WHAT THE TRAFFIC IS ON THAT ROAD FOR A WHOLE DAY COURSE OF A DAY NOT HAVE THAT INFORMATION. ELEMENTARY SCHOOL STARTS AT EIGHT. 9 15. SO YOU HAVE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL KIDS THAT ARE GIVING DRIVEN TO SCHOOL STILL I MEAN, THAT'S ALL THERE IS TO IT. AND THE OTHER QUESTION IS, TOO. IS THAT ON A DAY WHERE PEOPLE ARE LEAVING SCHOOL AND GETTING THEIR KIDS UP TO BUBBLE HEIMER. AND IF YOU HAVE EVER TRIED TO LEAVE ANYWHERE AROUND NEW ALBANY LINKS, ONE FLAG FOOTBALL, BASEBALL OR BOTH GOING ON AT THE SAME TIME, THERE IS AN INCREASED NUMBER OF TRAFFIC PERIOD END OF DISCUSSION. WHEN IT COMES TO THAT, I TRY TO LEAVE MY NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WAY. AND THE OTHER THING THAT THERE IS MORE TRAFFIC IS THAT EVER SINCE ROCKY FORK OPENED ON DEAN FARM, THERE'S A HUGE INCREASE IN TRAFFIC. THERE ARE ALSO PEOPLE THAT PARK AT THE END OF UPPER CLEANER TENANT ALL HOURS BECAUSE I LOOK OUT AND SEE IT TO GO OVER INTO ROCKY FOURTH. AGAIN. WHAT ARE THEY DOING? DON'T KNOW. BUT THE WHOLE POINT WITH THAT IS THAT WHEN YOU BRING THESE PARK AREAS AND YOU BRING ALL OF THIS , YOU'RE STARTING TO BRING MORE CRIME. MORE PEOPLE THAT COME ALONG WITH THIS. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE INTERSECTION OF WALNUT IN CENTRAL AND 605, IT IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST DANGEROUS INTERSECTIONS AND WE DO NOT LET OUR KIDS LEAVE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WAY. AND THAT IS ANOTHER INCREASE IN TRAFFIC. GOING UP TO JOHN'S TOWN. THERE'S MORE TRAFFIC. THIS TRAFFIC STUDY NEEDS TO BE REDONE, AND ALL OF THIS ENTITY NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT AGAIN. SO I IMPLORE YOU NOT

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CAPITALISM I SAID I NEVER GOT RIGHT. SORRY TO YELLOW. IT'S NOT HARD. OKAY I'LL BE BRIEF. I KNOW IT'S LATE JACKIE HAMMER, 70 40 MAYNARD PLACE. UM EVERYONE HERE HAS DONE A FANTASTIC JOB DOING A GREAT JOB EXPRESSING ALL OF OUR CONCERNS, HESITATIONS RESERVATIONS, AND JUST THERE'S A LOT TO GO INTO THIS, UM I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS FOR YOU. THESE ARE NOT RHETORICAL. ONE IS JUST BALLPARK NUMBERS. HOW MANY EMAILS PHONE CALLS MEETINGS? CONVERSATIONS DID YOU HAVE WITH PEOPLE THAT WERE IN FAVOR OF THIS? I HAD ABOUT AS MANY EMAILS THAT I'VE RECEIVED. SAY THAT AGAIN ABOUT AS MANY CONVERSATIONS WITH PEOPLE THAT ARE IN FAVOR AS EMAILS THAT I'VE RECEIVED. UM I MEAN, THIS THIS CONVERSATIONS TAKING PLACE OVER 18 MONTHS, SO IT'S KIND OF HARD TO SEGREGATE TIMEFRAMES. UM CERTAINLY THE FOLKS THAT ARE OPPOSED THE PROJECT AND HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT IT HAVE SHOWN UP IN FORCE AND HAVE SHARED THOSE CONCERNS. UM THE EMAIL TRAFFIC AT LEAST, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST SPIT BALLING HERE, BUT IT'S PROBABLY 60, 40 AND OPPOSITION FROM WHAT WE'VE GOTTEN IN THE LAST THREE MONTHS, AT LEAST IN MY ESTIMATION, AS FAR AS CONVERSATIONS, UM I WON'T SAY IT'S 50 50 AND MAYBE 55 45 THAT ARE AGAINST THE PROJECT OR HAVE I SHOULDN'T SAY THAT HAVE CONCERNS OR QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PROJECT. I THINK A LOT OF FOLKS RECOGNIZE THAT DEVELOPMENTS COMING THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO GET PREPARED TO ACCEPT THOSE CHALLENGES AND WORK THROUGH THEM TOGETHER. BUT YOU KNOW THEY HAVE QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS ABOUT THE HAMLET, THE DETAILS OF THE HAMLET AND THEN A LOT OF THINGS THAT HAVE COME UP TONIGHT. THEN I GUESS I JUST ASK, I'M NOT AGAINST GROWTH AND OTHER INTEL'S COMING THE BUBBLE HALL, THE BUBBLY HALL THAT'S OPENING SOON IN THE BUBBLE, HOMEBUYER FIELDHOUSE. THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S COMING RIGHT UP OFF OF BEVEL HEIMER. THERE'S SO MUCH GROWTH HAPPENING. I WOULD JUST ASK THAT YOU VOTE NO TONIGHT FOR THE REZONING OF THIS SPECIFIC AREA AND JUST KEEP IN MIND WHO EXACTLY YOU ARE. YOU SHOULD BE ADVOCATING FOR. I MEAN, WE LOVE YOU GUYS. WE I WANT YOU TO BE HEARING OUR COMMENTS, TAKING THOSE INTO CONSIDERATION AND REALLY WORKING FOR THE PEOPLE, NOT FOR ONE SPECIFIC DEVELOPER. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. EVENING HELLO, JESSICA CAPPIELLO 70 98 BEING FARM ROAD. UM I WON'T GO INTO ALL THE TRAFFIC AND ALL OF THE NUMBERS OF THE KIDS AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS, EVEN THOUGH THOSE ARE EXTREME CONCERNS FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE, UM REALLY, WHAT I WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT IS, UM JUST THE FACT THAT I THINK IT'S DISHEARTENING TO HEAR THAT IT'S KIND OF KNOWN AROUND THE COMMUNITY THAT SEEMS LIKE A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY MADE UP THEIR MINDS, UM, THAT THERE WERE THREATS OF LAWSUITS AND INTIMIDATION AGAINST THE COUNCIL MEMBERS AND, UM, SO I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING THAT, UM HE'S REALLY WRONG. IF THAT IS TRUE, AND, UM AND I JUST FEEL LIKE IT KIND OF INTIMIDATED SOME PEOPLE TO COME AND TALK BECAUSE THEY FELT LIKE WHY AM I GOING TO WASTE MY TIME? IF YOU GUYS ALREADY HAVE THEIR MINDS MADE UP, UM BUT REALLY, THERE'S SO MANY PEOPLE WHO ARE AGAINST THIS BECAUSE OF THE DENSITY AND JUST BECAUSE OF ALL THESE OTHER REASONS THAT EVERYONE HAS HAS TALKED ABOUT. UM I DO HAVE A QUESTION HAS STEINER EVER DEVELOPED A NEIGHBORHOOD? JUST A NAME. WE'VE DEVELOPED ABOUT 1000 RESIDENTIAL UNITS. UH WE DEVELOPED MIXED USE, NOT A NEIGHBORHOOD. WE'VE DEVELOPED MIXED USE PROJECTS THAT INCLUDE YOU KNOW, HEAVY RESIDENTIAL AND LIGHT RETAIL. BECAUSE YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK IS ALSO. REALLY, UM KEY TO NOTE IS THAT A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN PRESENTED, UM, HAVE BEEN THINGS THAT ARE NOT CLEARLY DEFINED. AND TO HAVE A YES VOTE TONIGHT. YOU HAVE TO FEEL GOOD WITH THOSE RENDERINGS. YOU HAVE TO FEEL GOOD WITH ALL OF THE THINGS THAT ARE THE MAYBES THAT THAT IT IS NOT THE INTENTION OR IT IS THE INTENTION. SO I'M JUST WONDERING WHY DOES THIS HAVE TO BE A FOR SURE THING TODAY? IS THERE MORE REFINING THAT WE CAN DO? AND SOME OF THESE? I'M NOT SAYING THAT MAYBE THIS ISN'T GOING TO HAPPEN, BUT I THINK EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM WOULD AGREE THAT WE WOULD LOVE TO SEE

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WE'RE ALL OF A LOT OF THESE DETAILS ARE GOING TO BE WORKED OUT THAT YOU KNOW, THE STANDARD TEAM CAME FORWARD WITH THE DEVELOPMENT WITH A PROPOSAL FOR A DEVELOPMENT THAT HAD A LOT OF DETAIL IN IT AT THE BEGINNING. WAY BEFORE THE ZONING PROCESS WAY BEFORE THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN PROCESS. THEY PUT A PRODUCT OUT THERE TO SORT OF GAIN SUPPORT FROM THE COMMUNITY.

HERE'S THE THING WE'RE THINKING ABOUT BUILDING. HERE'S WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE. UM YOU KNOW? I THINK ALL OF US ARE UNIMPRESSED WITH THE BOXES THAT ARE ON THE PAGE RIGHT NOW, RIGHT? IT DOESN'T SAY ANYTHING TO ME ABOUT WHAT THIS PROJECT IS. IT'S JUST MEETING THE REQUIREMENTS WITH THE ZONING, SO I'LL LET STAFF AND THE DEVELOPER TACO THE APPLICANT EXCUSE ME TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE NEXT STAGE OF THE PROCESS. JUST SO FOLKS HAVE A GENERAL UNDERSTANDING ABOUT WHAT MAY HAPPEN NEXT. THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO THIS IS AGAIN AS A MISSPELLING STATED. THIS IS THE REZONING STAGE. SO WE HAVE RECEIVED A WHAT'S CALLED A BEAUTY TEXT, AND IT'S ACTUALLY 36 PAGES LONG OF DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS. AND SINCE THAT'S WHAT SETS THINGS IN PLACE, ADDITIONAL REGULATIONS AND SOMETIMES SOME FLEXIBILITY LIKE AS WE MENTIONED FOR THINGS LIKE MAKING SURE LIKE THE PARKLAND. UM DESIGN COMES INTO ME. SHOULD WE GET THOSE ELEMENTS THINGS LIKE STREETS? AND SO SINCE THIS IS A WORD DOCUMENTS THAT IS EVALUATED THAT SETS THE RULES TO ENSURE THOSE RULES ARE ADHERED TO AND IMPLEMENTED CORRECTLY. THERE IS A SECONDARY REVIEW PROCESS IF THIS RESUMING HAS APPROVED AND THAT'S WHERE WILL BE MULTIPLE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS THAT REVIEW THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND THE FINAL DEGREE DEVELOPMENT PLAN IS THOSE DETAILED ENGINEERING SITE PLAN ARCHITECTURE. LOOK AT THINGS

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ABSOLUTELY. QUOTE. QUESTION FOR THE DEVELOPER WHEN YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT 20 TO 40 RENT OPTIONS, BUT THAT WOULD NOT INCLUDE THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES IN TOWN HOMES. WHO LET'S SAY I BUY A TOWNHOUSE. CAN I TURN AROUND AND RENT IT? I DON'T BELIEVE THE CITY HAS AN ILLEGAL RESTRICTIONS ON, YOU KNOW, SORT OF THE VACATION RENTAL BY OWNER OPTION OR RENTAL OF A PURCHASE PROPERTY AND SOME COMMUNITIES AROUND CENTRAL OHIO HAD PUT IN RESTRICTIONS LIMIT. PROPERTY OWNERS FROM THAT. REVENUE OPPORTUNITY, SO TECHNICALLY, THE ENTIRE PROJECT COULD BE AN AIRBNB. AS POSSIBLE THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN TODAY, LET OUR DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR, ACTUALLY, UM, THE ISSUES COME UP UNRELATED TO THE HAMLET IN THE APPLICATION JUST ELSEWHERE IN NEW ALBANY.

AND JUST THE FACT THAT THERE ARE, UM WE'VE RECEIVED INFORMATION THAT THERE MAY BE

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PROPERTY RIGHT. PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE RIGHTS, TOO. UM IS THAT THE DURATION OF THE RENTAL SHOULDN'T BE HAS TO BE MORE THAN A COUPLE OF WEEKS OR MORE THAN A MONTH OR WHATEVER THE DURATION REQUIREMENT IS, AND THEN ALSO, THERE'S A TAXING ISSUE THAT COMES INTO PLAY AS WELL. THAT THAT IS AN INCOME STREAM THAT IS SUBJECT TO TAXATION. UM SO YOU KNOW AGAIN, THAT'S SORT OF A RENTAL OPPORTUNITY FOR SOMEONE THAT'S AGAINST SHORT TERM. IT'S NOT A SIX MONTHS OR A YEAR LEASE DON'T THINK AND I'M NOT SURE OF ANY COMMUNITY THAT I'M AWARE OF. THAT'S PUT IN A RESTRICTION THAT PROHIBITS A HOMEOWNER FROM RENTING THEIR HOME FOR A YEAR OR TWO YEARS ON THE LEASE. I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD BE YOU COULDN'T SURVIVE A LEGAL CHALLENGE TO THOSE RESTRICTIONS THAT'S SO FAR CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE FOUND IN OUR RESEARCH. GOOD QUESTION. THANK YOU, COURTNEY. ALRIGHT I HOPE I DIDN'T MISS ANYONE. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO, UM, FILL OUT THE SPEAKER CARD THAT I HAPPENED TO MISS OR. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK THAT DIDN'T FILL OUT A CARD. ALL RIGHT, UH, OKAY? SURE. COME ON UP, STEVE. THANK YOU. YOU CAN START US OFF AND CLOSES QUICK. STEVE SEAGAL 71 90 ASSUMPTION. DR. I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT. AS YOU THINK ABOUT THIS REALLY IMPORTANT VOTE FOR OUR COMMUNITY. I FEEL LIKE YOU KNOW, THIS IS DAVID VERSUS GOLIATH. AND IN THE BIBLE. THERE WAS A MIRACLE. BUT TONIGHT IT'S REAL LIFE, AND UNFORTUNATELY, DAVID'S NOT GOING TO WIN. THE VOTE. YES. ON THIS ISSUE FOR THIS LOCATION IS THE BEGINNING OF THE BREAKDOWN IN NEW ALBANY OF THE COMMUNITY MINDED. CAREFUL PLANNING THAT NEW ALBANY IS KNOWN FOR. UM YOU'RE YOU'RE SUCCUMBING TO THE PRESSURE OF ITS DEVELOPER. THAT'S HEAVY HANDED. AND THERE'S NO REASON WE SHOULD BE RUSHING INTO THIS AND VOTE. YES IS THE BEGINNING OF THE BREAKDOWN OF WHAT WE'RE KNOWN FOR. VOTE NO IS APPROPRIATE AND LET'S FIND THE RIGHT LOCATION FOR ONE AND ONLY HAMLET. THERE'S PLENTY OF GREAT LOCATIONS THAT I KNOW WE CAN FIND IN THIS GREAT CITY TO BUILD THE HAMLET IN 605 AND CENTRAL COLLEGES, THE WRONG LOCATION.

THANK YOU. OKAY? ALRIGHT, SO. I THINK OUR LEGAL COUNSEL HAS A COMMENT OR TWO TO SHARE WITH COUNSEL BEFORE SPELLING. ARE YOU CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING? YES I'M SORRY. I FORGOT ABOUT THAT PART. AS LONG AS THERE'S NO ONE ELSE THAT WANTS TO PROVIDE COMMENT. WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THAT WILL ASK LEGAL COUNSEL PROVIDE US WITH A COMMENT. OKAY SO WE'RE GOOD. SO YES. SO I KNOW I PROVIDED COUNSEL TO MEMORANDA OVER THE LAST SEVERAL WEEKS REGARDING WHAT YOUR CONSIDERATIONS ARE AS YOU GO THROUGH THIS PRODUCT. PROCESS AND I KNOW AT THIS LATE HOUR THE LAST THING ANYBODY PROBABLY WANTS ME TO DO IS WALK THROUGH ALL OF THOSE STANDARDS SET FORTH IN THE CODE, BUT I JUST WANT TO REMIND COUNSEL WHEN YOU GO IN TO MAKE A VOTE. THERE ARE CERTAIN STANDARDS THAT ARE SET FORTH IN THE CODIFIED ORDINANCES THAT YOU HAVE TO CONSIDER, AND THERE'S A WHOLE HOST OF FACTORS. UH AND IT'S NOT JUST TRAFFIC. IT'S NOT

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SO IF ONE FAILS, THEY ALL DON'T FAIL. IT'S NOT LIKE A GAME OF JENGA OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO CONSIDER ALL OF THOSE FACTORS. SO I WOULD JUST URGE EVERYONE IN ON COUNCIL WHEN THEY'RE THEY'RE MAKING THEIR VOTE MAKING THEIR DECISION. UH TO CONSIDER THE EVIDENCE AS IT RELATES TO THOSE FACTORS AND THOSE STANDARDS THAT HAVE BEEN IN PLACE FOR A PERIOD OF TIME. WITHIN THE CODIFIED ORDINANCES. UM ASKED FOR SOME OF THE COMMENTS REGARDING POTENTIAL LAWSUITS. I DON'T WANT TO DIVE TOO DEEP INTO THAT, BUT THERE'S ALWAYS THE RISK OF A LAWSUIT ALONG THE WAY. AND CERTAINLY AS MAYOR, AS YOU POINTED OUT, WHEN YOU START DEALING WITH LANDOWNER ISSUES AND AH, DEALING WITH THE RIGHTS OF THE LANDOWNER. THOSE ARE CERTAINLY CONCERNS THAT EVERYBODY SHOULD HAVE ALONG THE WAY. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, IF YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS , I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM. UM IF YOU VOTE IN THE NEGATIVE, I WOULD REMIND EVERYBODY TO GIVE THE REASON FOR YOUR VOTE AND THE NEGATIVE AS YOU GO THROUGH THE PROCESS, BUT I'M AVAILABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE ALONG THE WAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, BEN. I APPRECIATE THAT. AS AS WAS MENTIONED AT FIRST READING. UM YOU KNOW, THIS IS THIS IS OBVIOUSLY A PUBLIC MEETING AND IS SORT OF A QUASI DIGITAL PROCEEDING. WHERE WE ARE DETERMINING THE RIGHTS OF AN APPLICANT AND PROPERTY OWNER WHO IS REQUESTED THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY TO EVALUATE A ZONING APPLICATION, AND WE HAVE A LEGAL STANDARD TO MEET. AND WHILE THE PUBLIC COMMENT AND PUBLIC CONCERN IS, YOU KNOW, AT THE VERY YOU KNOW, AT THE VERY FRONT OF COUNCILS THOUGHT AS WE GO THROUGH ALL THESE PROCESSES, WE STILL HAVE TO EVALUATE THE LEGAL REQUIREMENTS AND ZONING APPLICATION. AND I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY, THE RECORD HAS IN THE RECORD HAS BEEN SUBMITTED. THE APPLICANTS APPLICATION ALONG WITH SUNDRY OF DOCUMENTATION SUPPORTED THEIR APPLICATION. UM A LETTER FROM THEIR LEGAL COUNSEL, SETTING FORTH HOW THEY BELIEVE THEY HAVE MET ALL OF THE REQUIREMENTS THAT QUALIFIED ORDINANCES AND SECTIONS. 17 EXACT CRITERIA THAT IN TOTAL SHOULD BE MET. BUT I JUST LIKE TO INVITE MR UNDERHILL BACK UP TO THE PODIUM AND LET'S LET'S TALK A LITTLE ABOUT THE STANDARDS. UM AND HOW YOU BELIEVE THE APPLICANT HAS MET THEM. SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AGAIN. WE HAVE A NUMBER OF THINGS TO CONSIDER. BUT UNDER THE CODIFIED ORDINANCES SECTION 11 59.8. THERE'S A THROUGH. S 17 DIFFERENT CRITERIA. UM MAYBE WE CAN JUST EXAMINE SOME OF THOSE AND HOW YOU BELIEVE THE APPLICATION HAS MET THOSE REQUIREMENTS LEGALLY TO DO SO. WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO TAKE THEM ONE BY ONE? OR WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO? YEAH THAT'S FINE. THE STANDARDS THAT WE COULD SHOW FOR THE AUDIENCE WHILE HE'S GOING THROUGH A GREAT AND MAYBE I'LL HAVE TO READ THOSE. WE CAN SAVE A LITTLE VERY NICE. YEAH, THAT'S SURPRISINGLY, THIS FONT IS SMALL. WHO HAS THEIR GLASSES ON . OKAY WELL, UM DID YOU HAVE THIS LISTERINE? ER YES. YES UM, SO, YES, WE'LL DO OUR BEST HERE TO AND AGAIN. I THINK YOU'RE YOU KNOW, YOU'RE DECEMBER. 1ST LETTER LAYS OUT CHAPTER AND VERSE. BUT NOT EVERYONE HERE IS EITHER MADE A REVIEW THE LETTER OR HAD A CHANCE TO EXAMINE IT. SURE JUST, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN GET YOUR PRESENTATION ON THAT POINT. SO THE FIRST FACTOR IS TO CONSIDER IS THAT THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS CONSISTENT IN ALL RESPECTS WITH THE PURPOSE INTENT AND APPLICABLE STANDARDS OF THE ZONING CODE. UM STEVE MENTIONED I DIDN'T VERIFY THAT NUMBER. BUT I HAD SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 34 36 PAGES OF ZONING TEXTS THAT ARE APPLICABLE HERE. IT'S SET UP. PRETTY UM COMPLICATED AND SOPHISTICATED SET OF RULES. I WOULD ALSO POINT OUT TO THE EXTENT THAT SOMETHING IS NOT ADDRESSED IN THAT TEXT. THERE'S A CATCH ON THIS IS TYPICAL AND P U D THAT IT SAYS THAT THE UNDERLYING ZONING CODE WOULD APPLY. SO TO THE EXTENT THERE ISN'T SOMETHING ADDRESSED IN HERE, WE DEFAULT TO THE CODE AND HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THAT OR OTHERWISE SEEK A VARIANCE. WE HAVE NOT ASKED FOR A VARIANCE FROM ANY OF THE HAMLET RELATED STANDARDS HERE. WE HAVE A MINOR , I THINK REQUEST. IT'S REALLY NOT EVEN TECHNICALLY A VARIANCE BECAUSE WE'RE ZOOMING PROCEEDING BUT RELATED TO GARAGE DOORS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT ANYTHING THAT'S MATERIAL TO THE DECISION ON THE LAND USE OF THE DENSITY. WE HAVE NOT ASKED FOR A DEVIATION FROM CODE SO WE BELIEVE WE MEET NUMBER ONE. SO AGAIN NUMBER ONE THAT YOU KNOW. BASICALLY HAVE YOU MET THE PURPOSE INTENDED THE APPLICABLE STANDARDS FOR THE ZONING CODE. THERE WAS AN OCTOBER 27TH SUBMISSION AND THE I P U D TEXT. THIS IS MULTIPLE PAGE DOCUMENTS REFERRING TO THAT'S CORRECT.

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THAT'S NOT THE CASE AT ALL. IN FACT, I WOULD SAY THAT EVERY YOU KNOW WE WERE DISAPPOINTED THE FIRST TIME THAT THIS THING WAS TURNED DOWN. THAT APPLICATION WAS TURNED DOWN. ABSOLUTELY. BUT WE DIDN'T FOLLOW ANY LAWSUITS. WE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING LIKE THAT. WE WAITED PATIENTLY FOR THE CITY TO GO THROUGH THEIR PROCESS, AND WE'VE DONE OUR LEVEL BEST NOW TO MEET ALL OF THE STANDARDS AND REQUIREMENTS THAT THE CITY'S PUT FORTH AND WE'VE DONE THAT, AND WE CHECK ALL 15 BOXES IN THE STRATEGIC PLAN, AND LARGELY, WE'RE PROVIDING A PROJECT THAT I KNOW THIS WASN'T NECESSARILY THE TOTAL INTENT, BUT THE PLAN THAT IS IN THE STRATEGIC PLAN WE LARGELY DEMONSTRATED. OUR LAYOUT IS SIMILAR TIME. OKAY OKAY. AND THEN, UH, SEE, UM, I'M SURE THEY'LL THEY'LL BE SOME POTENTIAL QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL . I'M SURE SOME DISAGREEMENT FROM THE PUBLIC BUT THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT PLAN ADVANCES THE GENERAL WELFARE OF THE CITY. SO THIS ONE IS INTERESTING. AND I YOU KNOW, I GO BACK TO THE FACT THAT THIS IS THE FOURTH BITE AT THE APPLE FOR THE CITY AND CITY COUNCIL TO LOOK AT THIS, AND SO , UM, I THINK ALONG THE WAY WITH THE FIRST, UM INCLUDE THE 1ST 1ST GO AROUND WAS A STRATEGIC PLAN ENGAGE IN NEW ALBANY HAMLET WAS INTRODUCED AS A CONCEPT. I WOULD THINK THAT THAT WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN PLACED IN THAT STRATEGIC PLAN AND ENDORSED BY YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION IF IT WEREN'T BOUGHT TO BE FOR THE GENERAL WELFARE. OR IN FURTHERANCE OF THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE DID HAVE THE, UH, THE ORIGINAL APPLICATION THAT, YOU KNOW. FRANKLY I'LL AGREE WITH YOU. WE DIDN'T HAVE A CODE THAT REALLY, UH, DEALT WITH THIS SORT OF DEVELOPMENT. SO THAT WAS THE SECOND GIRL AROUND. THIRD GO AROUND, OF COURSE, WAS THE UPDATE TO THE PLAN IN THE FOURTH . WE'RE HERE TONIGHT THAT FIRST TIME AROUND, WE MET 11 AND 12.

STANDARDS THAT I GUESS THE CITY WANTED AND FURTHER AND SERVICE GENERAL WELFARE 15 OUT OF 15 HERE, AND I ALSO SAY THAT, UM, I THINK IT'S PAGE EIGHT OF THE UPDATED PLAN. I KNOW IT'S BEEN INTEGRATED INTO THE STRATEGIC PLANTS SOFT WITH THAT FOCUS AREA PLAN, SO HAMLET DEVELOPMENT IS STRONGLY RECOMMENDED FOR THE AREA SHOWN IN THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP. UM NOW IT DOES SAY IT'S NOT REQUIRED, BUT IT SAYS IT STRONGLY ENCOURAGED, SO I THINK THERE'S OVERWHELMING EVIDENCE IN IN TERMS OF THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AND CITY COUNCIL HAVING SPOKEN. I KNOW WHEN THE RUBBER MEETS THE ROAD, AND WE HAVE AN ACTUAL PROJECT. THAT'S A LITTLE HARDER, BUT I THINK THE POINT HAS BEEN HAMMERED HOME SEVERAL TIMES OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS THAT THIS ISN'T FURTHER AND THE GENERAL WELFARE ANY OTHER EXAMPLES OF FURTHERING THE GENERAL WELFARE YOU'D LIKE TO FOCUS ON. WELL YOU KNOW, THE I MEAN, THE ECONOMIC BENEFIT TO THE SCHOOLS CAN'T BE. I MEAN, I KNOW WE CAN TALK ABOUT STUDENT IMPACT AND BUT THAT ECONOMIC IMPACT IS PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL. UM IF THERE WEREN'T SOME RESIDENTS COMING ALONG WITH IT AND THIS PURELY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECT THAT NUMBER WITH THE EYE POPPING AND SO I THINK YOU FURTHER THAT, UM YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT HAVING OTHER OPPORTUNITIES IN THE AREA FOR YOU KNOW, DINING OUT SHOPPING.

THOSE SORTS OF THINGS ARE IMPORTANT TO A COMMUNITY AND MAKE IT ATTRACTIVE AND PROBABLY LEAD TO KEEPING HOME VALUES UP. AND I DON'T WANT TO TRICK YOU BECAUSE IT'S IN YOUR WRITTEN LETTER, BUT THAT YOU ALSO MADE COMMENTS ABOUT THE GREEN SPACE EDITION. OF COURSE, THE GREEN SPACE AND YOU KNOW? WE REALLY WE REALLY ENVISIONED AS BEING THE CORE OF THIS WHOLE THING, AND I THINK THE CIVIC GREEN WE HOPEFULLY THERE'S GOING TO BE REALLY COOL AND REALLY SOMETHING THAT THE COMMUNITY CAN ENJOY, AND ESPECIALLY DURING THE SUMMERTIME. ALLIGHT. AND THAT TAKES US TO D THAT THE BENEFITS, IMPROVED ARRANGEMENT AND DESIGN AND THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT JUSTIFY THE DEVIATION FROM STANDARD VELMA REQUIREMENTS IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE. I THINK WE MEET THIS ONE MERELY BECAUSE WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANY DEVIATIONS, RIGHT? E VARIOUS TYPES OF LAND OR BUILDING PROPOSED IN THE PROJECT. MEET THE STANDARDS. YES I MEAN, I THINK THE HULK WHOLE, UM THE THEORY BEHIND THE HAMLET IS MIXED USE. WE'RE PROVIDING A MIXED USE. UM IS JUSTIN MENTIONED, WE EXPECT THERE TO BE A PRETTY DECENT OFFICE COMPONENTS SMALL OFFICE WHICH IS NEEDED IN THE COMMUNITY. UM, YOU KNOW, RESIDENTIAL AS RESIDENTIAL

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AND, UH THE TRAFFIC IN CIRCULATION. SURE STUDY. I MEAN, IT WOULD. IT WOULD BE DISINGENUOUS TO SAY THAT THE PROJECT ANY PROJECT YOU DO IS NOT GOING TO HAVE AN IMPACT ON TRAFFIC. IT WILL, BUT WHAT YOU'RE ASKED TO DO IN EVERY CIRCUMSTANCE AND EVERY ZONING HAPPENED INVOLVED AND IS TRYING TO MITIGATE THOSE IMPACTS. AND UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S BEEN DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW THIS MAY BE. THE STUDY CAN'T BE TRUSTED. WE HAVE GONE THROUGH THE EXACT SAME PROCESS THAT EVERY ZONING APPLICATION AND DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL IN THE CITY HAS TO DO WE SET FORTH AN MOU THAT IS REVIEWED AND APPROVED BY THE CITY'S TRAFFIC ENGINEER. THEY UNDERTAKE THAT STUDY IN ACCORDANCE WITH GENERALLY ACCEPTED PRINCIPLES, INCLUDING COUNTS. HOW MANY OF THEM ARE THERE ARE TIMES OF DAY. AND UNIVERSALLY FOR EVERY PROJECT.

EVERYBODY INVOLVED IN THE DEVELOPER PAYS FOR THE STUDY. SO IF WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THAT AS SOME SORT OF A TEST AS TO WHETHER IT'S VALID OR NOT, I THINK EVERYTHING WOULD BE INVALID. UM THIS IS AND THAT'S WHY THERE'S A PERIOD VIEW BY TRUSTED ADVISOR LIKE E. P.

FERRIS. SO I THINK WE'VE MITIGATED THE TRAFFIC IMPACTS THAT WE HAVE SUPPORT FROM THE CITY'S TRAFFIC ENGINEER THAT OUR RESULTS ARE ABOUT ARE VALID. ALRIGHT BUILDING HEIGHTS OF ALL STRUCTURES IN REGARD TO THE VISUAL IMPACT ON JASON FACILITIES, AND I THINK THE BUILDING HEIGHT CONVERSATION. YOU KNOW, MR DURKIN PARTICULARLY REALLY DROVE THAT POINT HOME DURING SOME OF THE PREVIOUS PUBLIC HEARINGS. YES AND YOU KNOW THIS WAS THIS WAS THE ONE ITEM THERE. WE DIDN'T MEET THE LAST TIME AROUND. AND SO WE KNEW IT WAS VERY IMPORTANT TO THE CITY COUNCIL. SO WE'RE ADHERING TO THE STANDARDS. WE HAVE ALSO, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO PLACE LIKE USES NEXT TO LIKE USES SO THAT THE IMPACT ON ADJACENT PROPERTIES WILL BE, YOU KNOW, THERE'LL BE OF SIMILAR AND COMPATIBLE USE. ALRIGHT I THE FRONT SIDE AND REAR YARD DEFINITIONS ARE MEETING THE CODE REQUIREMENTS. YES TO MY KNOWLEDGE. WE'RE MEETING ALL REQUIREMENTS. ALRIGHT GROSS COMMERCIAL BUILDING AREA. THIS WAS OBVIOUSLY SOMETHING THAT CHANGED FROM THEIR ORIGINAL PLAN INTO THE MODIFICATION FOR THE QUANTIFICATION CHANGE, AND YOU KNOW, AS AS THE STANDARDS ARE BEING DEVELOPED JOB STEFAN OFF, AND I HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THIS AND I FRANKLY, I DON'T KNOW WHO CAME UP WITH THE IDEA. MAYBE I'LL GIVE JOE CREDIT, BUT IT WAS PRETTY CLEVER TO REFIRE. A RATIO OF COMMERCIAL TO RESIDENTIAL AND I THINK THAT INSURERS ARE GOING TO GET A MIX OF USES AND NOT HAVING SOMEONE TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF TRYING TO CRAM MORE RESIDENTIAL DENSITY ON BECAUSE BY ADDING MORE DENSITY ON THE ONE SIDE, YOU'VE GOT TO BRING IT ON THE OTHER, SO IT HAS TO BALANCE AND SO AS I MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY WE'RE EXCEEDING WITH THIS PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAY ON THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENT. ALRIGHT SO THAT TAKES US TO K AREA RATIOS AND DESIGNATION LAND SURFACES TO WHICH THEY APPLY AGAIN. YOUR APPLICATION. ALRIGHT SETS FORTH THAT THEY'VE MET ALL THE APPLICABLE REQUIREMENTS. SO WE'VE ONE OF THE REASONS WHY ARE TEXAS SO LONG AS WE HAVE FIVE DIFFERENT SUB AREAS WITH FIVE DIFFERENT SETS OF LAND USE REGULATIONS WITH THOSE RATIOS, ETCETERA AND, UM, SO WE'VE GOT A GREAT LENGTHS TO MAKE SURE WE'RE PLACING WHAT WE BELIEVE TO BE APPROPRIATE USES AND DENSITIES IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE PROJECT. ALRIGHT THAT TAKES US TO L SPACES BETWEEN BUILDINGS AND OPEN AREAS. WELL YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT WITH THE CIVIC MIXED USE CIVIC GREEN. WE ENVISION THIS AS I MENTIONED. THERE'S A MIXED USE AREA WITH, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY BUILDINGS RELATIVELY CLOSE TO IT TO CREATE SORT OF A LITTLE NEIGHBORHOOD PARKING PARKFIELD SORT OF THING, BUT WITH COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY AROUND

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AND THEN IF YOU APPLY THAT DATA TO THE EXISTING ZONING. BASICALLY JUST AS LUCK WOULD HAVE, IT SAYS THE SAME. BASICALLY, THE SAME NUMBER OF STUDENTS ARE GOING TO BE, UH, GENERATED FROM THIS, UH, COMMUNITY OR THIS PROPERTY UNDER ANY OF THOSE SCENARIOS BEING BASED ON THE THIRD PARTY CONSULTANTS ASSUMPTIONS. ACTUAL DATA IS APPLIED TO THE SITE OR THE CURRENT ZONING OF THE SITE AND WHAT IT WOULD PRODUCE. UH ONE OF OUR RESIDENTS TONIGHT HAD A COMMENT REGARDING THE STUDENT POPULATION AND THE SUGGESTION THAT THERE BE SOME LIMITATION PUT ON THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS AND PERHAPS A PENALTY. THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE PAID BY THE DEVELOPER OR POTENTIAL LANDOWNER. UM IF THEY EXCEEDED THAT NUMBER, I MEAN, HOW'S THAT CONCEPT? PLAY OUT? WELL. TO ME, AND I'M OBVIOUSLY NOT YOUR ATTORNEY SO HE CAN MAYBE SPEAK FOR IT. BUT YOU KNOW, THERE ARE A LOT OF FAIR HOUSING LAWS THAT WOULD PROHIBIT THAT AND I WILL BE UNCOMFORTABLE AS A DEVELOPER NUMBER ONE, BUT ALSO AS A CITY TO PUT PLACE SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN THE ZONING REGULATION. I THINK IT WOULD PUT IT WOULD VIOLATE FEDERAL LAW. OKAY AARON , CAN YOU JUST SPEAK TO REAL QUICKLY? WHAT IS THE EXPECTED REVENUE OUT OF THIS DEVELOPMENT TO THE SCHOOLS? ANNUALLY AFTER IT PAYS FOR THE STUDENTS THAT PRODUCES AFTER THIS IS NET OF THAT $1.758 MILLION ANNUALLY THAT BUILD ACTUAL BUILD OUT. IT'S ABOUT 12 11,000 PER STUDENT. I THINK SOMEONE THREW OUT A NUMBER THAT I BELIEVE TO BE ACCURATE. 11,000 SOMETHING

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THE THERE'S A CONCERN THAT WITH THE AMBIGUITY WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE DISCOVERY SITE? IF WE APPROVE THIS TONIGHT, IT SETS A PRECEDENT WHERE THIS COULD BLEED NORTH OF CENTRAL COLLEGE AND BECOME A EXTENSION OF THIS HAMLET. UM I JUST LIKE THIS CITY STAFF THAT KIND OF COMMENT ON WHETHER THAT'S A POSSIBILITY OR NOT. AND WHAT WOULD HAVE TO HAPPEN FOR THIS TO EXPAND TO THAT PROPERTY. STEEP. SO WHEN CITY COUNCIL UPDATED THE STRATEGIC PLAN EARLIER THIS YEAR HAS CITY COUNCIL IN THE AUDIENCE MIGHT RECALL THERE. THERE USED TO BE CIRCLES ON OUR STRATEGIC PLAN THAT SHOULD APPROXIMATE LOCATIONS OF THESE HAMLETS. UM UH, COUNCIL HEARING THE CONCERN OF THIS HAMLET GROWING OVER TIME AND BEING A LITTLE BIT SUBJECTIVE ON WHERE ITS LOCATION WAS. THE LATEST STRATEGIC PLAN THAT WAS ADOPTED AND IN PLACE NOW HAS PARTIAL SPECIFIC BOUNDARIES THAT SHOW THE FULL EXTENT AND THE APPROPRIATE LOCATION OF THE STRATEGIC PLANS . RECOMMENDATION FOR THE LOCATION OF THE HAMLETS. SO THIS PROPOSAL TONIGHT IS FILLING IN THAT SPACE IN ITS ENTIRETY FOR THE STRATEGIC PLANS OF FUTURE LANGUAGE DESIGNATION. THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL SPACE THAT IS DESIGNATED AS FUTURE HAMLET. SO STEINER. PURCHASE THE DISCOVERY PROPERTY AND SUBMITTED A PROPOSAL TO TURN THAT INTO AN EXTENSION OF THE HAMLET. THIS WHOLE PROCESS WOULD HAVE TO START AGAIN AND GO TO ROCKY POOR PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE COUNCIL THAT'S CORRECT UNDER NO OBLIGATION TO APPROVE THAT. LEGALLY. THAT'S CORRECT. IT WOULD BE EVALUATED ON ITS OWN. YEAH I CAN TALK ABOUT. WE WILL ASPECT THAT WOULD LET THE LAW DIRECTOR BUT IN THAT CASE, THERE WOULD BE DIFFERENCES OF CIRCUMSTANCES BECAUSE THERE BE DIFFERENT LAND USE DESIGNATION RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THOSE ENGAGED IN ALL THE STRATEGIC PLAN. THAT'S RIGHT THE WAY EVERYTHING'S LAID OUT CURRENTLY BE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PROCESS AND COMPLETELY DIFFERENT STANDARDS TO EVALUATE AND THINGS ALONG THOSE LINES SO THAT I GO TO STEVE'S POINT. I THINK THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT. OKAY. I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY FOR EVERYBODY THAT REGARDLESS WHAT HAPPENS TONIGHT? THERE IS NO INTENTION OF THE HANDLING BEING ANY LARGER THAN WHAT HAS BEEN LAID OUT CURRENTLY. YEAH I THINK WE MADE THAT CLEAR THAT WE WANTED TO LITERALLY DRAW A BOX AROUND THIS, I THINK WAS MR SCHURICK'S COMMENTS AT THE AT THAT POINT IN THE PROCESS. AND THAT WAS ACHIEVED VERY ARTFULLY IN THE STREETS PLANET THERE. OTHER QUESTIONS. YEAH IF YOU RE INTRODUCE YOURSELF FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE TALK ABOUT THIS GENERAL NUMBERS 1.7. I DON'T KNOW. 1.7558162 IS THAT TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION LIKE. SOME OF THIS TIFFANY DANCING OR MECHANISMS THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP TO MAYBE FINANCE SOME OF THIS STUFF OR IS THAT JUST AS JUST ON ITS OWN? OKAY THANKS. ALRIGHT IF THERE'S NO FURTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL, I GUESS IT'S TIME FOR US TO CONSIDER A MOTION ON THIS ORDINANCE. UM ORDINANCE. OH 40 2022 I WOULD MOVE FOR THE ADOPTION OF ORDINANCE 40 2022. I WOULD SECOND THAT ADOPTION THAT MOTION. TWO. SPALDING YES. COUNCIL MEMBER FELLOWS? YES

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THE COMPLETE STATEMENT. I DON'T WANT TO STEP OVER YOU. THAT'S FINE. COUNCIL MEMBER TEST. YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER SHAW? YES TRACK? YES I HAVE. FIVE YES VOTES AND ONE NO VOTE ON ORDINANCE OF 40 2022 ARE NECESSARY OPTED ALRIGHT . I KNOW. SEVERAL MEMBERS OF COUNCIL WANTED TO MAKE COMMENT AFTER THE VOTE, MR DIRK SAY TO HIS RATIONALE ON THE RECORD. THAT'S GOOD. THIS IS JUST A REMINDER THAT THE DEVELOPMENT PROJECT REVIEW PROCESS IS STILL NOT OVER. THIS IS JUST THE ZONING APPLICATION THAT WAS APPROVED TONIGHT. THIS PROCESS IS STILL VERY MUCH UNDERWAY.

WE'RE MOVING ON TO A FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN REVIEW AND ASSESS STAFF HAS ARTICULATED TONIGHT THERE WILL BE AN OPPORTUNITY AT THE ARCHITECTURE REVIEW BOARD, THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND COUNCIL. PROVIDE FEEDBACK AS THIS PROCESS MOVES FORWARD. UM I CAN SPEAK FOR MYSELF. UM I REALLY WANT THE APPLICANT TO HEAR THIS CLEARLY. YOU'VE HEARD SOME OF THE COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC. YOU UNDERSTAND THE PRESSURE THAT'S BEING PUT ON COUNCIL THROUGH THIS PROCESS. YOU BETTER SHARPEN YOUR PENCILS AND COME FORWARD WITH A DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT THAT THAT WOWS US AND THAT THIS COMMUNITY CAN GET BEHIND. THE BURDEN IS NOW ON YOU FIRMLY TO DO THAT. AND IF YOU DON'T YOU ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE THE SUPPORT OF THIS COUNCIL MEMBER.

FOR THIS PROJECT MOVING FORWARD. LET ME START BY SAYING THANK YOU TO ALL THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY THAT TOOK TIME TO SHARE CONSTRUCTIVE FEEDBACK WITH CITY STAFF AND COUNCIL DURING THE NEARLY THREE YEAR LONG PROCESS THAT GOT US TO THIS POINT. MANY OF THE SUGGESTIONS HAVE BEEN INCORPORATED INTO AND REFLECTED IN THE STANDARDS THAT THE CITY ADOPTED IN OUR STRATEGIC PLAN UPDATE AND THE CODIFIED ORDINANCES, INCLUDING A SIGNIFICANT REDUCTION IN THE RESIDENTIAL DENSITY FOR THIS PROJECT AND INCREASE IN HONOR, OCCUPIED UNITS AND EXPANSION OF THE COMMERCIAL AND RETAIL SPACE AND GREEN SPACE NOT TO AMEND NOT TO MENTION THE ELIMINATION OF A SECOND PROPOSED HAMLET AT STATE ROUTE 62. AS WITH EVERY DECISION OF CITY COUNCIL, THE PRESENTATION OF THE APPLICATION THE HEARING OF MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY THAT COMMENTS BY STAFF DELIBERATIVE PROCESS BY COUNCIL WERE CONDUCTED THE MEETINGS THAT ARE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC AND EVEN LIFE STREAMED AND RECORDED. THE CITY ALSO CREATED A LANDING PAGE ON OUR WEBSITE TO PLACE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION SO THAT MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC REVIEW EVERYTHING ON THEIR OWN AND THEIR OWN TIME. THE SAME PROCESSES ALSO FOLLOWED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION EVALUATING AND RENDERING A DECISION ON THIS EXACT APPLICATION. WELL PARTS OF THIS PROCESS HAVE CERTAINLY BEEN MESSY. AT TIMES, I BELIEVE THE OPEN AND TRANSPARENT PROCESS HAS RESULTED IN FAIR PROCEEDINGS, EVEN WHILE SOME OF US ARE UNHAPPY WITH THE OUTCOME. I'M SURE MANY OF OUR FELLOW OF MY FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS AND CITY STAFF WILL AGREE THAT PUBLIC OPINION AND INPUT IS ALWAYS IMPORTANT AND VERY WELCOME. I CAN THINK OF MANY EXAMPLES WHERE PUBLIC INPUT PROVIDED INPUT.

EXCUSE ME WHERE I CAN THINK OF MANY EXAMPLES WHERE THE PUBLIC PROVIDED INPUT ON THE CITY PROJECT OR A MATTER UNDER CONSIDERATION WHERE THE FINAL DECISION AND OUTCOME WERE VASTLY IMPROVED BECAUSE OF THE COLLABORATIVE INITIATIVE PROCESS THAT WE WORKED THROUGH WITH OUR COMMUNITY. WE HAVE SO MANY TALENTED PEOPLE, MANY OF WHOM TESTIFIED HERE TONIGHT AND ASKED VERY GOOD QUESTIONS. WE HAVE VERY TALENTED PEOPLE LIVE IN THIS COMMUNITY AND CARE DEEPLY ABOUT MAKING THIS AND KEEPING THIS A SPECIAL PLACE. SO AGAIN. THANK YOU AND PLEASE STAY ENGAGED IN THIS PROCESS. IT'S NOT YET OVER. BUT THERE ARE TIMES WHEN CITY COUNCIL LAX AND FEDERAL DISCRETION TO MAKE A DECISION. REPUBLICAN IMPORT IS STILL IMPORTANT, BUT IT CAN ONLY BE A FACTOR COUNCIL MUST FOLLOW ILLEGAL PROCESS AND RENDERING ITS DECISION. WE COVERED THAT THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS TONIGHT AND ALLOWED THE APPLICANT TO MAKE THEIR CASE AS TO WHY THEY HAVE MET THE ZONING REQUIREMENTS SET FORTH BY THE CITY. THIS IS WHERE WE FIND OURSELVES. WHEN WE DETERMINE A PROPERTY RIGHT OF A PERSON OR LEGAL ENTITY, SUCH AS A HEARING ON ZONING APPLICATION , WE MUST PROVIDE ADEQUATE LEGAL DUE PROCESS. AS I MENTIONED DURING THE FIRST READING AND AFFIRMED BY THE CITY ATTORNEY WERE REQUIRED TO CONSIDER ALL OF THE APPLICANTS, INFORMATION AND EVIDENCE. THEY CONTROL THE SUBMISSION DATE, NOT THE CITY. THEY ASKED FOR THIS MEETING TO MOVE FORWARD, NOT THE CITY. WE'RE JUST HERE TRYING TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THEY HAVE MET THE STANDARD. UM FELONY TO FOLLOW. THIS LEGAL PROCESS COULD WELL SUBJECTED THE CITY TO POTENTIAL LEGAL LIABILITY. THERE'S A HOST OF OTHER COMMUNITIES AROUND CENTRAL OHIO THAT HAVE FACED THAT AND LOST THOSE CASES. CITY OF POWELL ORANGE TOWNSHIP. UM. AND OTHERS

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SO I HOPE THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO HAVE A B A PLACE A COMMUNITY THAT IS WELCOMING TO DEVELOPMENT . UM, THAT THAT THE COMMUNITY CAN WORK TOWARDS PROJECTS THAT WE CAN EMBRACE TOGETHER, BUT JUST KNOW THAT, UH. OUR FUTURE IS GOING TO BE ABOUT GROWTH AS WE MOVE TOWARDS THE FILL FULL BUILD OUT OF OUR COMMUNITY IS 16 TO 18,000 RESIDENTS IS WHAT WE PROJECTED IN OUR LAST STRATEGIC PLAN. UPDATE. THAT WILL CERTAINLY HAVE AN IMPACT ON THE SCHOOLS. WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO WORK THROUGH THOSE ISSUES TOGETHER. UH AND DON'T FORGET MANY PUBLIC SCHOOLS 20 YEARS AGO , 60% OF OUR STUDENT POPULATION FOR STUDENTS THAT WERE RESIDED OUTSIDE THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY, BUT SCHOOL STILL WITHIN THE CITY . EXCUSE ME STILL WITHIN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT UNDER THE WIN WIN AGREEMENT, AND THE WIN WIN AGREEMENT HAS BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL FOR OUR COMMUNITY. IT HAS ALLOWED US TO GROW OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT IN A CERTAIN WAY , BUT THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY STILL HAS DEVELOPMENT GROWTH IN FRONT OF US, AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO REALIZE THAT AS AS THAT

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UM IF. FOR EXAMPLE, IN MY HOUSE, I HAVE SOME WOODS IN MY BACKYARD. COUNCIL MEMBER MARSH NEEDS TO SIT RIGHT DOWN THERE. I TRIED FOR YEARS TO BUY THAT PROPERTY FROM HIM, AND HE WOULDN'T SELL IT TO ME. I TRIED BECAUSE I LOVE THOSE WORDS, AND I WANT TO HAVE THOSE WORDS IN MY BACKYARD BUT THEY'RE NOT MINE. AND SOME DAY THEY WILL BE DEVELOPED. I KNOW THAT. UM BUT THAT'S JUST THE PRESSURE THAT WE LIVE IN. IF YOU IF YOU DON'T OWN THE LAND, THAT'S RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO YOU, IT COULD BE DEVELOPED. AND, UH, IT'S JUST THE REALITY THAT WE LIVE IN. SO AGAIN. I APPRECIATE THE PUBLIC COMMENT. I APPRECIATE THE COUNCIL COMMENT. I THINK STAFF FOR THEIR HARD WORK IN GETTING US TO THIS POINT. THE PROCESS IS NOT OVER AND I JUST WANT TO READ IT READ RIGHT BEFORE I TURN IT OVER TO MY FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT I HAVE HIGH EXPECTATIONS FOR THIS DEVELOPER TO COME FORTH WITH A PLAN. THAT WE CAN BE PROUD OF. SORRY. I DRAWN DOWN A LITTLE TOO LONG. LIKE I CAN'T. I CAN'T THINK THAT YOU CONSIDER ANY BETTER THAN WHAT YOU JUST SAID.

MR MAYOR. THANK YOU FOR THAT. I KNOW BEING A MEMBER OF BEING A RESIDENT OF NEW ORLEANS LINKS COMMUNITY. A LOT OF MY NEIGHBORS AND FRIENDS THAT ARE HERE TONIGHT THAT ARE OR ARE ADAMANTLY OPPOSED TO THIS DEVELOPMENT. I RECALL 16 18 MONTHS AGO WHEN WE ALL WORK TOGETHER BECAUSE I WAS ONCE ADAMANTLY OPPOSED TO WHAT WAS THEN KNOWN, UH, AND WORKED VERY HARD TO AND AT THE TIME I, UH MY POSITION WAS THAT WE NEEDED TO REDUCE THE DENSITY BY AT LEAST 50% WE NEEDED A COMMERCIAL SPACE INTO THAT AREA, AND WE ALSO HAD NEED TO HAVE MORE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES OR AT LEAST LESS APARTMENTS. THERE WERE 208 DEPARTMENTS. THAT WERE PLANNED FOR THE ORIGINAL KNOWN PROJECT. WE'VE TAKEN THAT 280 DOWN TO 40. FLATS THOSE 40 FLATS.

POTENTIALLY ONLY 20 OF THOSE WILL BE REYNOLDS. THAT IS A MAJOR IMPROVEMENT IN TERMS OF WHERE WE WERE. SO, YEAH, I AGREE THAT YOU HAVE CONCERNS AND I AND I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERNS, BUT WE'VE WORKED HARD TO MAKE THE NECESSARY IMPROVEMENTS TO REDUCE THAT DENSITY IN THAT COMMUNITY AND IN THE HAMLET AREA AND ALSO TO INCREASE COMMERCIAL SPACE SO THAT WILL PROVIDE MORE REVENUE TO THE CITY RIGHT SO THAT WE CAN HELP US IMPROVE. OUR SERVICES. IN ADDITION TO SCHOOLS ARE GOING TO BENEFIT. AS A RESULT OF THIS DEVELOPMENT WERE IN THE PAST THAT WAS COMPLETELY IN QUESTION.

SO I FEEL YOUR CONCERNS. BUT AS THE MAYOR SAID, THE CITY IS GOING TO GROW. AND AS A RESULT OF THAT GROWTH THAT WE'VE HAD, WHERE IT'S BECAUSE WE ARE SUCCESSFUL CITY THAT WE ARE GROWING UNDERSTANDING CONTINUED PRESSURE ON DEVELOPMENT. AND I THINK THIS PROJECT IS GOING TO HELP US HAVE A QUALITY DEVELOPMENT THAT ALLOWS FOR MORE RIGID RESIDENTIAL AND MORE COMMERCIAL THAT WILL MEET THE NEW ALBANY STANDARD. NEW ALBANY IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO BE A PREMIER COMMUNITY THAT BUILT OUT WE'RE GOING TO BE 16 TO 18,000 PEOPLE. WE HAVE WORLD CLASS COMPANIES THAT ARE GOING TO BE GENERATING JOBS AND REVENUE BACK TO THIS CITY. FOR A CITY OF EIGHT AT 16 TO 18,000 PEOPLE, THE QUALITY OF THE SERVICES THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE BECAUSE OF THE SUCCESS THAT WE HAVE BEEN PUT UP THAT WE HAVE PUT ON INTO INTO OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY. WE'RE GOING TO BE AMONG THE TOP. PREMIER COMMUNITIES IN THE COUNTRY IN TERMS OF THE SERVICES THAT WE'RE PROVIDING TO OUR RESIDENTS, BUT PART OF THAT IS GOING TO HAVE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH IS THE INCREASE IN RESIDENTIAL DENSITY, THE INCREASE IN TRAFFIC THAT I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYBODY ANY BETTER CITY ANY BETTER STAFF AND, UH, THAT IS IN PLACE THAT TO MANAGE THAT IN COLLABORATION WITH OUR RESIDENTS AS WELL. TO ENSURE THAT YOUR CONCERNS ARE MET THAT WE CONTINUE TO GROW AND VERY RESPONSIBLE STRATEGIC WAY AND THAT YOU WILL CONTINUE TO BE PROUD OF THIS COMMUNITY. I HAVE EXTREMELY PROUD OF THIS COMMUNITY. ALL THE WORK THAT WE HAVE DONE OVER THE 20 YEARS TO GET WHERE WE ARE TODAY. HOWEVER THE SUCCESS THAT WE ALL HOPED FOR HAS COME AND IT'S GOING TO MEAN MEAN THAT WE HAVE MORE

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WE HAVE, WE WILL HAVE A HIGH QUALITY DEVELOPMENT THAT WILL BE HOPEFULLY BE SEEN BY YOU BY THE FOLKS THAT HAVE SO MANY CONCERNS HERE TONIGHT, AND I UNDERSTAND THEM. THAT YOU WILL SEE THAT AS AN OVERALL AMENITY TO THE COMMITTEE. THANK YOU, MR FELLOWS AND THE OTHER COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL UM, JUST A QUICK AND I WANT TO THANK THE FOLKS A LOT OF FOLKS IN THIS ROOM. I'VE BEEN WITH THIS. YOU MET TRICIA JESSICA. BUT FROM THE BEGINNING IN, I TRULY APPRECIATE WHERE WE STARTED WITH THIS PROJECT. QUOTE KIRK SMITH. NOT HERE. BUT IN HIS HONOR. I WILL SAY THE FIRST DENSITY BOMB THAT WAS BROUGHT TO US 18 MONTHS AGO. IT WASN'T RIGHT FOR THE COMMUNITY. AND I KNOW SOME OF YOU STILL DON'T THINK WHAT WE HAVE NOW IS RIGHT. BUT FROM WHERE WE STARTED, YOU KNOW 10.5 UNITS PER ACRE DOWN TO YOU KNOW, 5576 NOW. UM AND I TRULY THINK YOU KNOW. WE ELIMINATED THE HUGE APARTMENT BUILDING INTENSITY IS DOWN. I THINK THE PRODUCT IS GOING TO BE WORTHWHILE. I DON'T WANT TO HIDE BEHIND THE LAWSUIT LIKE IF I TRULY BELIEVE WHAT STEVE SAID THAT THIS IS THE END OF THIS IS THE BEGINNING OF THE END OF THE ALBEE. BRING A LAWSUIT ON I'D VOTE NO ON THIS TONIGHT. I GENUINELY THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE AN ASSET TO THE COMMUNITY. I KNOW WE HAVE TO PROVE THAT NOW AND THIS DOESN'T START. YOU KNOW THE PROCESS AS FAR AS COUNSEL.

DOESN'T STOP TONIGHT. WE'RE GONNA SHEPHERD THIS THROUGH. I HAVE A PERSONAL STAKE. I DON'T WANT TO DISAPPOINT A SINGLE ONE OF YOU ALL THE HOURS THAT YOU PUT INTO THIS PROJECT. I WANT TO REWARD THAT WORK WITH SOMETHING THAT YOU FEEL GOOD ABOUT. AND I KNOW YOU DRIVE BY IT EVERY DAY AND YOU KNOW? WE ARE GOING TO SEE THIS THROUGH AND IT'S GOING TO BE AN ASSET IN SOMETHING THAT HOPEFULLY FIVE YEARS FROM NOW YOU DRIVE BY AND YOU WANT, YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF LIKE WITH MY EXPERIENCE WITH THE CITY CENTER. I CAN'T IMAGINE NOT HAVING IT THERE NOW, EVEN THOUGH NONE OF THAT WAS THERE WHEN I MOVED IN. UM I TRULY APPRECIATE ALL OF IT SO AGAIN. THIS ISN'T OVER TONIGHT AND YEAH. THANK YOU AGAIN FOR EVERYTHING YOU GUYS HAVE DONE IN THIS PROCESS. YEAH, I WANTED TO GO. COUNCIL MEMBER KISSED US. UM I HAVE BEEN TALKING PROBABLY TO HUNDREDS OF RESIDENTS OVER THE PAST YEAR AND A HALF ABOUT HAMLETS AND, UM, I'VE YOU KNOW BEEN I'VE SEEN BOTH PROJECTS. I LIKE THIS ONE A LOT BETTER. I THINK THE I KNOW THAT THE DEVELOPMENT HAS IMPROVED TREMENDOUSLY. BECAUSE OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE STANDING SITTING IN THIS ROOM, RIGHT, PROVIDING PUBLIC COMMENT. PEOPLE WHO HAVE LEFT AND YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT TO THANK EVERYONE WHO SENT ME. AN EMAIL CALLED ME ON THE PHONE CAME TO THESE MEETINGS STOPPED ME IN THE GROCERY STORE.

ALL OF THE CONVERSATIONS WITH EVERYBODY HERE FOR AND AGAINST THIS PROJECT HAS MADE THIS PROJECT BETTER. OBVIOUSLY THE NUTS AND BOLTS OF THIS PROJECT ARE NOT COMPLETE, AND THAT IS JUST BECAUSE OF THIS VERY FRUSTRATING PROCESS THAT IS PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT RIGHT AND THE QUESTIONS THAT EVERYBODY RAISED HERE TODAY. TRAFFIC SCHOOL DENSITY. WHAT CONNECTIVITY SAFE PEDESTRIAN. THESE ARE VALID QUESTIONS. THESE ARE VALID QUESTIONS THAT WE NEED TO WORK THROUGH AS A COMMUNITY AND I JUST ASK I AM BEGGING. I'M BEGGING FOR CONTINUED COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND INVOLVEMENT THROUGHOUT THIS ENTIRE PROCESS AND THEN BEYOND TO SEE YOU KNOW THE SOLUTIONS THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE RIGHT NOW. MAYBE THEY'RE NOT WORKING. MAYBE THERE'S MORE DEVELOPMENT AND WE NEED YOU KNOW, WE NEED MORE SOLUTIONS AS THIS COMMUNITY GROWS AND THE ONLY WAY THAT ALBANY WORKS IS IF WE ALL WORK TOGETHER. UM BUT I DO KNOW THAT THERE WILL BE SALUTE. THERE WILL BE PROJECTS ANY EVERY PROJECT THAT WE HAVE HAS PROBLEMS THAT NEED SOLUTIONS . AS A MENTOR OF MINE LIKES TO SAY WE NEED TO LEARN HOW TO WALK AND CHEW GUM AT THE SAME TIME, AND I THINK OUR CITY IS REALLY, REALLY GOOD AT THAT. WE IMAGINE IF WE SAID WE CAN'T DO UNTIL BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE TRAFFIC INFRASTRUCTURE TO SUPPORT IT, RIGHT. WE DIDN'T SAY THAT WE WERE LEANING IN. WE'RE MAKING SOLUTIONS. WE'RE IDENTIFYING ISSUES AND FINDING SOLUTIONS AND I AM COMMITTED TO WORKING WITH ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO TALK WITH ME ABOUT THIS. I'M COMMITTING TO ATTEND ANY MEETINGS TO TALK ABOUT SOLUTIONS TO THESE PROBLEMS. UM AND I UNDERSTAND THAT MANY OF YOU AND PEOPLE WHO HAVE LEFT HARVARD DISTRUST OVER THE DEVELOPER OR FEAR THAT WILL COME OF THIS, AND I CAN ONLY IMAGINE THAT I WOULD FEEL THE SAME IF I WERE IN YOUR SHOES. AS A CITY COUNCIL. IT IS IT IS OUR DUTY AND HONOR TO LISTEN TO YOU. UM, BUT IT IS ALSO MY DUTY TO FOLLOW THE LAW AND WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT MY VOTE TODAY WAS WAS THE

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THIS WAS A TOUGH ONE. UM FOR ME PERSONALLY, BECAUSE I KNEW GOING IN. IT WAS GOING TO BE A CHALLENGE, BUT I HAD TO LOOK AT IS, ANDREA SAID THAT SO MUCH OF THE LEGAL PART THAT YOU SAID, BUT I HAD TO LOOK EXACTLY WHAT THE CRITERIA WAS AND WHAT WE WENT THROUGH. UM SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I LIKED WAS THE SIXTH DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE 75% VERSUS 25% OPEN LAND. I REALLY LIKE THE 200 SQUARE FOOT OF COMMERCIAL SPACE PER ONE UNIT THAT ALMOST RIGHT THERE TELLS US THAT WE ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE REALLY MORE THAN 200 UNITS POSSIBLE IN THIS ENTIRE THING IF YOU HAVE 40,000 SQUARE FOOT OF COMMERCIAL SPACE BECAUSE YOU JUST CAN'T IT HAS TO BALANCE AND SO THAT WAS A KEY PART. I KNOW LAST YEAR WHEN I REALLY WANTED TO BRING A LITTLE BIT MORE COMMERCIAL. NOW THE DEVIL'S IN THE DETAIL, RIGHT? THAT'S THAT'S WHAT WE'RE NOW MOVING INTO THAT PHASE TO SEE SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WE HAD TONIGHT. WHAT TYPES OF RESTAURANTS CAN WE GET THERE? UM YOU KNOW WHAT TYPES OF THINGS CAN WE PUT IN THE OPEN SPACE BROUGHT UP A REALLY GOOD QUESTION TONIGHT THAT I WANT TO FOLLOW UP ON WHO OWNS THE PARK IN OPEN SPACE. YOU KNOW, IT'S ONE THING I WANT TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT AHEAD. NOT THOUGHT OF UM, ALSO NEXT STEP INDEPENDENT TRAFFIC STUDY. I THINK WE'RE UNANIMOUS UP HERE UNANIMOUS OUT, PROBABLY IN THE AUDIENCE THAT THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. UM, AND WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT WE DO THAT. AND WE WANT TO.

I PERSONALLY WANT THAT BECAUSE COMING INTO THIS SAFETY, TRAFFIC AND PARKING, WHERE MY THREE CONCERNS WITH THIS NEW ITERATION OF WHAT WE HAVE. I DID THE MATH. AND ALL THE PARKING SPACES BASED ON THE 200 PER WAS 200 SQUARE FEET PER ONE PARKING UNITS FOR COMMERCIAL BUSINESS, AND YOU DID HIT IT. I ADDED UP ALL THE PARKING THAT WAS IN THERE SO THAT I WAS HAPPY FOR. YES I DID DO IT SUB AREA FIVE. I'M NOT YET SOLD ON SO ME PERSONALLY, I'LL WAIT TO SEE WHAT THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN IS FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I. ENCLAVE DEVELOPMENT. THERE MIGHT BE SOME SYNERGISTIC THINGS THAT WE CAN DO WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT TO MAYBE IMPROVE THAT ENTIRE CORRIDOR FROM A SAFETY PERSPECTIVE. UM NETWORKING THE BRIDGE IMPROVEMENTS THAT I KNOW THAT THEY TALKED ABOUT, UM, SOME THINGS OF THAT NATURE, THERE MIGHT BE SOME OTHER OPPORTUNITIES TO PAY A POUND. WHAT WE GET ON THE SNYDER EXIT THAT'S STILL ONE OF MY CONCERNS ON THAT LEFT AND LEFT OUT, SO I WANT TO WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT MORE AGAIN. FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN WILL BE ABLE TO SEE KIND OF WHAT WE HAVE THERE. THIS IS A REALLY GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE A SECTION OF NEW ALBANY AND I THINK WE HEARD IT TONIGHT THAT MAYBE HASN'T BEEN LOOKED AT IN A WHILE AND MAKE IT BETTER. UM MAKE IT BETTER MAKE IT PART OF THE COMMUNITY, AND THAT'S WHAT YOU CAN DO WITH THE DEVELOPMENT LIKE THIS, SO I ECHO A LOT OF THE THINGS ABOUT THE GROWTH THAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH WILL TAKE THESE ONE AT A TIME. BUT PLEASE KEEP THE INPUT GOING BECAUSE THE

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THAT'S GOOD. ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER COUNSELOR COMMENT. OKAY WELL, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, I USUALLY SAY AT THIS POINT THE MEETING IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO GO DO SOMETHING ELSE. THAT'S GREAT. WE STILL ACTUALLY HAVE A PRETTY LENGTHY AGENDA AHEAD OF US. SO I APPRECIATE YOUR STICKING WITH US AND FOR YOUR PATIENTS AND PARTICIPATION THIS EVENING. I'M SURE WE'LL SEE AS THIS PROCESS MOVES FORWARD. INTRODUCTION AND FIRST READING ABOUT ORDINANCES STRETCH ORDINANCE 041 2022 IN

[10. INTRODUCTION AND FIRST READING OF ORDINANCES]

BUT HEY, TOM. ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE WENT IN, AND I GOT REAL QUIET OVER THERE. QUIET

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BUT ALLOWING FOR CONNECTIVITY AND DIFFERENT DESIGN. STANDARD DEVELOPMENT OF I BELIEVE IT'S SIX LAST WEEK. STILL SUPPORT OKAY? GOT IT. ALL RIGHT. WELL, THANK YOU FOR THAT UPDATE. I'M GLAD YOU STUCK AROUND. HAVE YOU BEEN HERE ALL NIGHT? AND WE JUST MISSED YOU IN THE CROWD. GOOD STUFF. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. I GUY THAT NEEDS A HOBBY. TOM. ORDINANCE O OF 14. WE DID THAT ALREADY. ORDINANCE OH 43 2022 IN ORDER TO EXECUTE A SECOND AMENDMENT TO A CONSERVATION EASEMENT GENERALLY LOCATED ON THE GOOGLE PROPERTY. TO REMOVE CERTAIN UTILITY CROSSING AREAS WITHIN THE CONSERVATION AREA AS REQUESTED BY N. B. J HOLDINGS LLC, MONTAG INNOVATIONS LLC AND AP OHIO TRANSMISSIONS COMPANY. YES SO, UM, THIS SO THIS EASEMENT AREA IS ADJACENT TO THE ANGWIN SUBSTATION. WHICH UM, IS USED TO PROVIDE ELECTRIC SERVICE TO GOOGLE AND OTHER DEVELOPMENTS IN THE AREA. AND SO THIS, UM THIS AMENDMENT TO THE ORIGINAL CONSERVATION EASEMENT WOULD VACATE A SECTION OF THAT CONSERVATION EASEMENT TO ALLOW ELECTRICAL FACILITIES. THROUGH THEIR THIS WAS CONTEMPLATED WITHIN THE ORIGINAL MINT ITSELF. ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS ON THE ORDINANCE? JUST ONE QUICK QUESTION. UM, THAT THE SIZE OF THE ORDINANCE? I MEAN, SORT OF LIKE FROM HE DESCRIBED THE VARIATION IN THE CHANGE IN THE EASEMENT. YEAH. SORRY. CAN YOU REPEAT THAT? I'M JUST I MEAN, YOU WERE AMENDING THE CONSERVATION IS SHRINKING OR GROWING. UM, LET ME TO AND FRO LIKE, HOW TO AND FRO. HOW MUCH? HOW MUCH ARE WE LOOKING AT? HOW MUCH SO IT'S I WOULD SAY IT'S LIKE UNDER A HALF ACRE. I CAN GET THAT I'LL BRING THAT BACK TO THE NEXT TO THE NEXT ONE. BUT IT'S A SMALL AREA. ALRIGHT LET'S GOVERNMENT THERE WAS, IT'S RESTRICTED IN THE ORIGINAL EASEMENT BY SOME, LIKE SO MANY LINEAR FEET, SO ALL RIGHT. WELL, I APPRECIATE THAT. WE'LL SET THAT FOR A SECOND READING IN OUR MEETING ON DECEMBER 13TH. LET'S SEE HERE ORDINANCE. OH 45 2022 DID I SKIP ONE? I WENT 44. I'M SORRY, SO 44 IN ORDER TO AMEND A CONSERVATION EASEMENT GENERALLY LOCATED SOUTH OF INNOVATION CAMPUS WHERE IN WEST OF MINK STREET TO ALLOW ELECTRIC UTILITY FACILITIES TO BE BUILT WITHIN THAT AREA, AS REQUESTED BY ENERGY HOLDINGS AND SKIN L PROPERTIES. SO THIS, UM THIS IS SIMILAR WHERE THERE WERE GOING TO AMEND THE ORIGINAL CONSERVATION EASEMENT TO ALLOW FOR A PITA TO, UM PLACE THEIR FACILITIES WITHIN THIS AREA. UM, WHEN THIS PROPERTY WAS CONVENING, THEY NOTICED THAT THERE WAS A CONFLICT WITH YOUR WITH THE ELECTRICAL USE. MINT WAS ACTUALLY PUT ON BY ERROR.

PUT ON TOP OF THIS CONSERVATION EASEMENT. THEY CAN'T THAT THEY WORKED WITH THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS TO PERMIT THIS TO BE VACATED. AND SO THAT'S THE REQUEST TODAY. ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS ON THE ORDINANCE? OH, 44. THEN WE'LL SET THAT FOR SECOND READING PUBLIC HEARING AT OUR MEETING ON DECEMBER 13TH ORDINANCE OH 45, 2022 APPROPRIATION AMENDMENT ORDINANCE AND ORDINANCE TO AMEND APPROPRIATIONS FOR CURRENT EXPENSES AND OTHER EXPENDITURES OF THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY STATE OF OHIO DURING THE FISCAL YEAR ENDING DECEMBER, 31 2022 STARTS SO I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE BRIEFLY THAN MAYBE I HAVE PREPARED. BUT THE PURPOSE OF THIS PROPOSED LEGISLATION IS TO ELIMINATE NEGATIVE ACCOUNT BALANCES AND ENSURE THAT APPROPRIATIONS OR BUDGETARY EXPENDITURES FOLLOW O R. C REQUIREMENTS PROACTIVE MEASURES TO ENSURE BUDGETARY COMPLIANCE FOR THE 2022 AUDITS SO WE CAN KEEP OUR CLEAN AUDITS.

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UM, SEVERAL OH, YEARS. SECTION FOUR. BETH JUST WAS IT ALWAYS 100,000. IT WAS NOT. IT WAS 50,000 FOR US. 8 17 18 19. I'M TRYING TO THINK OF HOW LONG I'VE BEEN HERE. AND 20. AND THEN WE RAISED IT TO 100,000. I THINK LAST YEAR WITH OKAY, THAT'S JEALOUS APPROPRIATION AUTHORITY WITH JOE'S APPROVAL. YEAH, ANYTHING BEYOND THAT HAS TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL. IT'S NOT THE APPROPRIATION EXPENDITURE THAT HAS TO BE APPROVED. I SAY THAT RIGHT? THIS WOULD BE AN ADDITIONAL $100,000 APPROPRIATION. THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO BE ADJUSTED ONTO THE FUND TO MAKE SURE BRING COMPLIANCE. WE'VE NEVER USED THAT NOT PROVISION THAT WE PUT IN A KIND OF BELT AND SUSPENDERS NEVER BEEN USED. $100,000 ABOUT 50,000. SO BACK WHERE WE STARTED. YEAH THERE'S THAT SECTION FOUR AUTHORIZES ME TO ADJUST APPROPRIATION WITH THE FUNDS THAT ARE MEANT TO BE ZERO BALANCE FUNDS TO ENSURE THAT REVENUES UH, EQUAL EXPENDITURES FOR THE APPROPRIATION AND BUDGET PURPOSES, AND THAT IS TO COMPLY WITH, UH, SOME OHIO ADVICE. CODE BUDGETARY. ROLES UM, THOSE ARE THE ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY FUND, CERTAIN FUNDS AND THE HOTEL EXCISE TAX FUND. SECTION FIVE AUTHORIZES THE FINANCE DIRECTOR TO REDUCE APPROPRIATIONS WITHIN ANY FUND TO ENSURE BUDGETARY COMPLIANCE. UM SECOND READING IS THAT FOR NEXT TUESDAY IF YOU ARE REQUESTED TO BE SET FOR NEXT TUESDAY, IF YOU'RE PEAKED AT THE LEGISLATION PACKAGE FROM YESTERDAY THAT WAS RELEASED, YOU'LL SEE. THERE ARE A FEW REVISIONS. WE WILL DISCUSS THAT OR I WILL PRESENT THOSE AT THE NEXT MEETING TO REVIEW RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS ON THE ORDINANCE WILL SET THAT FOR A SECOND READING IN PUBLIC HEARING IN OUR MEETING ON DECEMBER 13TH

[11. RESOLUTIONS AND PUBLIC HEARING]

THIS IS JUST ME, SO PROBABLY, UM 75 YES. 5 75 TO 80 PROPERTIES. OKAY? ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS

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THERE'S ALSO AUTHORIZES THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO A DEVELOPMENT AND SUPPLY AGREEMENT WITH MY NEW, NORMALLY TECH PARK AS WELL. THIS IS FOR THE PROVISION OF WATER AND SEWER SERVICES TO THE PROJECT AND OTHER PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS. THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT DOES COVER PHASES, 12 AND THREE OF THE PROJECT MOST OF THE DEVELOPMENT COMMITMENTS WITHIN THAT AGREEMENT ARE ALSO COMMITMENTS THAT WE'VE MADE FOR INTEL. WITH THE EXCEPTION OF A WATER LINE ON CLOVER VALLEY ROAD, THE NUCLEAR VALLEY ROAD FROM MINK TO JUG AND EVENTUALLY WHICH IS FANTASTIC FOR SOME OF YOU WHO ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE LINCOLN PROJECT THAT WENT THROUGH PLANNING COMMISSION . THERE WAS ORIGINALLY A CALLED A SACK BALD ROAD FROM JUG STREET THROUGH THAT PROPERTY, NOT CONNECTING TO ANYTHING ELSE, AND WE WERE ABLE TO UM NEGOTIATE WITH BOTH PARTIES TO HAVE THAT CONNECTED TO WHAT WILL NOW BE THE NEW HORIZON COURT, WHICH WILL GO AND CONNECT INTO THE NEWLY IMPROVED HARRISON ROAD EXTENSION, SO WE WERE ABLE TO GET SOME GREAT CONNECTIVITY OUT OF THIS PROJECT. WE WILL PROBABLY BE BRINGING AN AMENDMENT TO THE LINCOLN DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT TO YOU IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS, MEMORIALIZED THEIR COMMITMENTS TO PROVIDE RIGHT OF WAY FREE OF COST. AND FOR US TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE THAT CONNECTION, SO THIS TURNS OUT TO BE A GREAT WIN. I THINK LONG TERM FOR THE COMMUNITY AND AGAIN TALKING ABOUT HOW WE MANAGE THAT TRAFFIC AND MAKE IT BETTER THAN WHAT WE THOUGHT IT WAS BEFORE. THESE ARE SOME OF THE GREAT THINGS THAT WE'RE ABLE TO DO THROUGH SOME OF THE INSIGHTS THAT WE'VE HAD THROUGHOUT PLANNING, STAFFING, DEVELOPMENT AND ENGINEERING TEAM. UM, I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE. AND THOSE ARE ALL PUBLIC ROADS, PUBLIC ROADS. YES AND I ALSO NEED TO SAY VAN TRUST WANTED TO BE HERE TONIGHT. I TOLD THEM THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO COME. AH THAT I ANTICIPATED THAT WE WOULD ACTUALLY BE HERE UNTIL ABOUT 10. AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS LATE. UM SO THEY HAVE BEEN A GREAT DEVELOPMENT PARTNER. UM THEY'VE DEVELOPED SEVERAL PROPERTIES WITHIN THE PARK ALREADY. AND HAVE BEEN JUST OVERALL THEIR TEAM IS FANTASTIC TO WORK WITH, AND SO WE'RE EXCITED TO WELCOME THEM TO DEVELOP MORE GROUND IN THE AND CERTAINLY BE THE ONES WHO ARE TAKING THE LEAD WITH THE SUPPLIER PARK. RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS ON THE RESOLUTION? OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. ANYONE FROM PUBLIC LIKE SPEAKER REGARDING RESOLUTION ARE 40.

DURING THE PUBLIC COMMENT WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I WOULD MOVE FOR THE ADOPTION OF RESOLUTION. OUR 42ND. BUILDING YES, YES, YES. YES COUNCIL MEMBER SHOP? YES COUNCIL MEMBER WILL TRAP YES. SIX. YES, FENCE TO ADOPT RESOLUTION ARE 40 2022. ANYONE CARE TO MAKE A STANDING

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[13. REPORTS OF REPRESENTATIVES]

UH JUST REAL QUICK. I TOUCHED ON EARLIER SCHOOLS. WANNA ANALYSIS WITH THIRD PARTY TOO? DEVELOPMENT IN THE DISTRICT AND SURROUNDING AREAS. UH PROBABLY SPRING. DON'T HAVE THOSE RESULTS BACK AND I'LL SHARE THOSE WHEN THEY COME. UH, THEY ARE. CONDUCTING A LEARNING COMMUNITY SURVEY WITH THE STUDENTS RIGHT NOW, I THINK EVERY GRADE LEVEL THEY'RE ANONYMOUS. SOME OF YOU IN CLASS AND SOME ARE ONLINE. AH, AND, UH, HOW'S IT? ALRIGHT ANY UPDATE FROM THE TOWNSHIP? NO

[14. REPORTS OF CITY OFFICIALS]

SO I WANT TO SEE. CAN I GET FIVE OF YOU? UM, ON THE POSSIBILITY, BECAUSE IT WOULD WE WOULD. IF WE DID IT. YOU GOT TWO YEARS TO GET IT DONE BY THE END OF THE YEAR, WE WOULD NEED TO WAVE 30 DAY REFERENDUM AND THAT SORT OF THING. UM DO YOU GUYS HAVE AVAILABILITY TOWARDS THE END OF THE YEAR? LIKE WHO'S TRAVELING? WHEN CAN I GET FIVE PEOPLE TOGETHER? RIGHT HERE. I WILL BE IN TOWN CHRISTMAS. IT'S LIKE THE WEEK BETWEEN CHRISTMAS AND NEW YEARS. DO I HAVE FIVE OF YOU IN TOWN DURING THAT WEEK? 29TH HERE TILL THEN? OKAY SO YOU'RE AVAILABLE TO THAT THURSDAY 1234 TIME IN TOWN. OKAY, I'M OUT. YOU'RE OUT THAT WEEK, BUT THE WEEK BEFORE THAT MAKES ANYTHING IS THAT I'M NOT THE WEEK BEFORE. YOUR OFFICE THE WEEK BEFORE THAT, SO 27. UM WE COULD DO WITH THE 27TH. DO I HAVE FIVE ON THE 27TH? 2345 OKAY. SHOULD BE OKAY. ALRIGHT IT YEAH, WE'LL DO IT. 6 30, IF YOU WANT, WE CAN DO IT EARLIER. IF YOU WANTED TO BE SPECIAL MEETING, I WOULD SPECIALLY ADVERTISING IT WON'T BE LONG. YEAH, I CAN DO WHATEVER TIME BECAUSE LITERALLY GOING TO DO IT IN THE MORNING. YES THERE ARE LITERALLY ONE OF THE MORNING DONE EARLIER. I CAN DO IT WELL, THREE OF US GREAT 10 O'CLOCK. I CAN'T. BUT I CAN DO IT BEFORE OR AFTER. YEAH I DIDN'T. THAT'S RIGHT. ALRIGHT. MAYBE WE HAVE HEARD LIKE 11 O'CLOCK IS WORKING SO WE COULD ALL DO. MORNING EVERY MORNING. OKAY I'VE GOT 11 27TH. WOULD YOU WANT TO DO AN EIGHT CAN BE EARLIER LITTLE TO HER. WOULD YOU WANT TO DO IT? WHAT YOU WANT TO DO AN 8 30? HE'S GOT TO BE SOMEWHERE BY 10 AUCTION TIME 8 38 38 30 LONG AS YOU HAVE COFFEE. WE WILL PROVIDE COFFEE. ALRIGHT ALRIGHT. SO EVERYONE OLD 8 30 ON THE 27TH EXCEPT FOR MAYOR SPAULDING MORALITY OUT AND FOLLOW UP WITH MORE AND THAT IS OFTEN THE CLERK AWESOME UP THERE FROM THE FINANCE DIRECTOR. YOU SEND A REMINDER OUTSIDE JUST A SMALL ONE. I ACTUALLY HAVE AN EMAIL DRAFTED TO SEND YOU GUYS A REVISED VERSION OF THE 2023 ANNUAL BUDGET. PROPOSED ELECTRONIC VERSION THAT INCLUDES ALL THE AMENDMENTS THAT WILL BE MENTIONED. NEXT WEEK IN THE SECOND READING OF THE BUDGET, UM IN THE EMAIL. I'LL TELL YOU WHAT PAGE, BUT WE HAVE A SUMMARY OF THE ADJUSTMENTS THAT WERE MADE.

THIS IS NOT GONNA HELP THE ATTACHMENT AND WE'RE TALKING. YOU KNOW WHAT? MAYBE IT'S NOT GOING TO GO. I MEAN, CAN'T WE JUST POST IT ON THE CAN POST? LET'S LET'S YOU KNOW EMAIL US A LINK TO THE POSTED DOCUMENT. I JUST THERE'S NO WAY IT'S GETTING THROUGH MY EMAIL FILTERS. I GUARANTEE IT. THAT IS A GOOD POINT. I DIDN'T I DIDN'T THINK OF THAT. BUT YES. SO I WILL WORK WITH MANDY ADMIN IN ORDER TO PUT IT ON THE WEBSITE AND I WILL SEND YOU GUYS A LINK. WAS TOUTING. HOW'S YOUR BOOK WAS THE LAST MEETING? YEAH YES, I AGREE . BUT THAT IS IT. THANK YOU FROM THE CITY MANAGER, THE REPORT. CITY ATTORNEY. 22 NO REPORTS. THANK YOU, SIR. PAUL FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ANYONE ELSE FROM PUBLIC LIKE TO ADDRESS COUNCIL REGARDING ANYTHING WE HAVE OR

[16. POLL FOR COUNCIL COMMENT]

COMMENT SECTION I'VE GOT THE TOYS FOR TOTS DRIVE, JONES. I HOPE THAT WENT WELL. I HEAR HER

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CHILDREN ARE ADORABLE. I LOVE THAT PICTURE. YOU'LL SEE MORE OF THEM ON THE 27TH. YEAH YEAH, I GUESS I'LL DO A QUICK YEAH. REALLY DIALED UP PERFECT PERFECT WEATHER FOR THANKSGIVING GANG, ESPECIALLY MORNING. IT WAS WE HAD ACTUALLY THE MOST PARTICIPANTS WE HAVE WELL OVER 3000 PEOPLE THIS YEAR. UM AND AS A RESULT, WE'RE ENDED UP WRITING CHECKS FOR ABOUT $125,000.

THAT'S AMAZING. SO IT WAS REALLY CAN'T THANK. YOU KNOW THE DAY I THINK MIKE AND CHIEF FOR UH I MEAN, SERVICE WAS FANTASTIC. AND YOU KNOW, POLICE FORCE OUT THERE AND KEPT EVERYBODY SAFE AND IT WAS A GOOD START TO THANKSGIVING . JUST YOU KNOW, I KNOW MR NEWCOMBE OFF, TOOK A LOT OF CREDIT FOR THE WEATHER, WHICH HE DESERVES. IT WAS PERFECT. THANKS PAUL. APPRECIATE THAT. THAT'S RIGHT. YEAH. REMARKABLE EVENING TOMORROW NIGHT, HONESTLY. THERE'S A PERSON WHO WILL HAVE FAMILIARITY WITH WHO'S GOING TO RECEIVE RECOGNITION WELL DESERVED RECOGNITION. I DON'T WANT TO RUIN THE SURPRISE TOMORROW. UM TOMORROW NIGHT COFFEE AND SIXES. INNOVATION WAS NORTH OF THE TRANSMISSION CENTER UP IN BEACH TO BE THERE. 56 IS. KIND OF LIKE THE NETWORKING.

WHATEVER. YEAH SIX STARTS AT SIX, OKAY? ADDRESS TO BE PROVIDED. AH. IS NOT RIGHT BY THE PLACE YOURSELF PLAN ACCORDINGLY, AND THERE'S NO TICKET. OKAY YOUR NAMES ON SHOES BUSINESS. YES YES. AND TIME REQUIRED. I HAVE ACTUALLY, I HAVE TO REMEMBER HOW BUSINESSES ANYMORE YOUTUBE VIDEO FIGURE IT OUT. SPORTS CUTS RIGHT? WE DO HAVE ONE MATTER UNDER OTHER BUSINESS QUESTION WE DONE WITH BALANCE ACCOUNT. THINK SO BELIEVING ABOUT YOU THERE.

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