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GUESS. UM SO THIS TIME I LIKE TO CALL TO ORDER THE NEW ALBANY ARCHITECTURE REVIEW BOARD. FOR
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WAS IT JANUARY 9TH ALREADY 2023 FOR SOME OF ACTUALLY SAID THAT UM DO HAVE ROLL CALL, PLEASE.JUST FOR THE PUBLIC RECORD. IF YOU COULD KEEP YOUR MICROPHONES ON. THANK YOU. MR HENSON HERE.
MR STROLLER. MR EATON HERE. MR BROWN HERE. MR THOMAS. MR MALICE HERE. MS MOORE HERE COUNCIL MEMBER WILL TRY OUT HERE. THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY ACTION ON THE MINUTES OF THE DECEMBER 12
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2022 MEETING? UM FIRST JUST TO COMMENT WELL DONE ON THE MINUTES , BUT THEY WERE VERY COMPREHENSIVE AND VERY WELL WRITTEN. SO MY COMPLIMENTS. I HAVE NO COMMENTS AND UNDER APPEARED TO MAKE A MOTION IF NOBODY ELSE HAS ANY NOTHING. I WOULD MOVE APPROVAL OF THOSE MINUTES. I'LL SECOND THANK YOU. MR EATON? YES. MR MALLETT'S YES. MS MOORE? YES. MR HENSON. YES.MR BROWN? YES. STAFF DO WE HAVE ANY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS TO TONIGHT'S AGENDA? WE DO NOT.
THANK YOU. SO THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO SWEAR IN ALL WITNESSES, APPLICANT STAFF WHO PLAN TO SPEAK REGARDING ANY APPLICATION ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA. PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ARE THERE ANY OTHER VISITORS HERE FOR ITEMS NOT ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA. SEEN AND I'M GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH OUR FIRST
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CASE. WHAT SHOULD WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE GARAGE? PARKING STRUCTURE FIRST, BECAUSE. SO THE WAY THAT WE HAVE OUR PRESENTATION PREPARED, SINCE ALL THE CASES ARE KIND OF RELATED TO ONE ANOTHER, WE'VE PREPARED A COMPREHENSIVE PRESENTATION FOR ALL FOUR CASES AT ONCE. OKAY, OKAY. UM SO FIRST OF ALL. OH FOR THE RECORD, THEN SHOWING REFERENCE. ALL CASES, UH, WE'LL BE SEEING IN 1234 HERE IN FOUR CASES TONIGHT A OR B 145. THEY ARE. B 148146 AND EVERYONE FOR SEVEN. DASH 222 1ST CERTIFICATES OF APPROPRIATENESS. AND STAFF. YOU HAVE. I'M SURE YOU HAVE A REPORT FOR US. SURE YES, THANK YOU. AS I MENTIONED IT JUST AGAIN TO REITERATE FOR THE RECORD AND FOLKS AT HOME. WE ARE WE DID, SINCE ALL FOUR CASES THERE ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA ARE RELATED TO ONE ANOTHER. WE DID PREPARE A COMPREHENSIVE PRESENTATION FIRST, I WILLIA. I WILL PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW TO THE BOARD AND FOLKS AT HOME. APPLICATION IN FRONT OF YOU AND THE REVIEW REQUIREMENTS THAT PERTAIN TO EACH FROM OUR CITY. CODIFIED ORDINANCES WILL THEN PASS THE MICROPHONE OVER TO ADRIAN AND THE REST OF OUR TEAM FOLKS HERE FROM THE NEW ALBANY COMPANY RAMS AT MK SK IN THE COLUMBUS ARCHITECTURAL STUDIO TO WRITE SOME ADDITIONAL CONTACT COMMENT ON THE APPLICATION. SO THE FOR APPLICATIONS THAT ARE ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA ARE THE FIRST TWO ARE DEMOLITIONS. THE DEMOLITION OF THE MILL BUILDING , WHICH IS LOCATED JUST RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO THE BATHROOM, BODY WORKS BUILDING THAT YOU CAN KIND OF SEE OUTSIDE OF OUR BACK WINDOW HERE. DEMOLITION OF THE TWO POLICE DEPARTMENT GARAGES THAT ARE LOCATED DIRECTLY BEHIND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. THEN WE HAVE A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS TO ADD A NEW PUBLIC PARKING GARAGE BUILDING TYPOLOGY FOR OUR SITE HERE BEHIND THE TRAWL. AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE. FINALLY WE HAVE THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR THE PARKING GARAGE ITSELF.AS I MENTIONED, I DO WANT TO TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO WALK THROUGH THE RIGHT OF YOU CRITERIA THAT PERTAIN TO EACH APPLICATION, SPECIFICALLY THE FIRST THREE APPLICATIONS AS DEMOLITIONS AND BUILDING TYPOLOGY EDITIONS AREN'T SOMETHING THAT'S TYPICALLY IN FRONT OF THE AIR B. WE DON'T SEE THEM TOO, TOO OFTEN, SO I WANTED TO REMIND EVERYONE ABOUT THE REVIEW CRITERIA FROM OUR CITY CODE. SO CITY CODE DOES PROVIDE THE REVIEW CRITERIA FOR DEMOLITION OF STRUCTURES INSIDE THE VILLAGE CENTER. THESE CRITERIA ARE LISTED HERE ON THE SCREEN AS WELL AS IN YOUR STAFF REPORT AND, UH, REVIEW CRITERIA FOR EACH APPLICATION, BOTH FOR THE MILL BUILDING AND THE PARKING PARKING GARAGES BEHIND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. ALL OF THESE CRITERIA ARE VALUED IN THE STAFF REPORTS. ADDITIONALLY INCLUDED WITH YOUR STAFF REPORT WAS A SITE PLAN SHOWING WHERE THESE BUILDINGS ARE LOCATED BASED ON EXISTING CONDITIONS TODAY. WE ALSO INCLUDED A JUSTIFICATION STATEMENT SUPPORTING THE DEMOLITION PROPOSAL FOR EACH BUILDING AGAIN. THE NEW ALBANY MILL WAREHOUSE BUILDING. AS WELL AS THE POLICE APARTMENT GARAGES. THE FEDERAL THE THIRD APPLICATION THAT'S IN FRONT OF
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YOU. TONIGHT IS THE REQUEST TO A NEW BUILDING TYPOLOGY, WHICH IS A PUBLIC PARKING GARAGE. AS NOTED IN THE STAFF REPORT, AND I'M HERE IN THE SCREEN CITY CODE CONTEMPLATES ADDING THIS ADDITIONAL BUILDING TYPOLOGY BUILDING TYPOLOGY THAT ARE NOT REPRESENTATIVE URBAN CENTER CODE ARE PERMITTED TO BE CONSIDERED BY THE R B AS A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS APPLICATION. THE URBAN CENTER CODE REQUIRES THAT THE APPLICANT SUBMIT GRAPHIC EXHIBITS AND LOT STANDARDS AS PART OF THE REQUEST FOR THE AIR B CONSIDERATION. THIS INFORMATION WAS INCLUDED IN YOUR MEETING PACKETS AS AS WELL AS EVALUATED IN THEIR STAFF REPORTS. SO THIS IS THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN THAT WAS SENT TO YOU LATER AFTER THE PACKETS WENT OUT. AND IF HOPEFULLY NOTICED IN YOUR PACKETS, THERE WAS ADDITIONAL LOT STANDARDS AND EXHIBITS THAT WERE SUBMITTED AND EVALUATED IN THE STAFF REPORT. SO, LASTLY, PROBABLY THE APPLICATION THAT WAS MOST FAMILIAR TO THE BOARD WAS THEIR CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR THE PARKING GARAGE ITSELF. I KNOW YOU ALL ARE FAMILIAR WITH THIS REVIEW CRITERIA. AS I MENTIONED, THIS IS THE MOST COMMON REVIEW CRITERIA THAT WE LOOK AT AT THE AIR B AND OUR STAFF REPORTS, BUT I PROVIDED PROVIDED IT TO YOU HERE ON OUR SCREEN. ONE THING THAT I DID NOT THAT'S NOT ON THE SCREEN, BUT I DID WANT TO MENTION IS THAT WE DID HAVE OUR CITY ARCHITECT DAVID BULLOCK DO APPEAR REVIEW THAT WAS SUBMITTED AS PART OF THE APPLICATION, AND THEY'RE SUPPORTIVE OF THE PROPOSED GARAGE DESIGN. LASTLY, BEFORE I PASSED OFF TO ADRIAN, I DID WANT TO PULL ONE ITEM OUT OF THE STAFF REPORT TO YOUR ATTENTION HERE ON THE SCREEN. THIS IS PROVIDED TO YOU IN THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR THE PARKING GARAGE ITSELF. CITY CODE STATES THAT ANY MAJOR ENVIRONMENTAL CHANGE REQUIRES A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS TO BE ISSUED BY THE R B. THE PROPOSED PARKING GARAGE CLASSIFIES AS A MAJOR ENVIRONMENTAL CHANGE, WHICH REQUIRES REVIEWING APPROVAL. ALL OTHER PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS THAT WILL TALK ABOUT THAT RELATED TO THE ROSARY INTO PROJECTS. UM, THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT ARE CLASSIFIED AS MINOR CHANGES. THEREFORE THEY DO NOT REQUIRE A OR B REVIEW AND APPROVAL. AND WITH THAT I WILL PASS IT OFF TO ADRIAN HERE. THANK YOU. WELL THANK YOU SO MUCH. IT WAS NICE SEEING YOU LAST MONTH. I HOPE YOU ALL HAD A REALLY NICE HOLIDAY SEASON AND OUR TEAMS REALLY EXCITED TO BE HERE TONIGHT TO PRESENT KIND OF THE FINAL DETAILS RELATED TO OUR PUBLIC PARKING GARAGE RIGHT HERE BEHIND THE LIP. ALL THIS HAS BEEN A REALLY GOOD PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN THE NEW COMPANY IN THE CITY AND I DID JUST WANT TO START OFF BY I'M INTRODUCING THE ENTIRE TEAM TO ALL OF YOU. WE ARE ALL AVAILABLE TO PRESENT AND ANSWER QUESTIONS AS WE GO ALONG TONIGHT, BUT GETTING TO THIS POINT TONIGHT IS A BIG STEP FOR US IN THIS KIND OF JOURNEY OF DESIGNING AND HOPEFULLY BUILDING THIS PROJECT, SO THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR TIME. UM, ON THE CITY SIDE, MK SK IS THE CITY SCIENCE ARCHITECTURE FIRM HAS HAS BEEN WITH THE CITY FOR 20 PLUS YEARS AND THEY'VE BEEN I'M LEADING THIS EFFORT FOR US, UH, JEFF VAN JONES AS A PRINCIPAL WITH THE FIRM THAT'S HERE TONIGHT. THERE IS ALSO INVOLVED WITH THE DESIGNING THE FIRST PHASE OF THE ROSE RUN PROJECT. AND THEN ON THE ARCHITECTURAL SIDE, WE HAVE DAN HAYNES FROM THIS ARCHITECTURAL STUDIO. THAT HAS HAD DAN HAS A LOT OF EXPERIENCE WITH PARKING GARAGES, NAMELY, ESPECIALLY IN THE ARENA DISTRICT PENINSULA. UH IF YOU GUYS HAVEN'T BEEN TO THE SIDE OF THE PENINSULA IN A WHILE, WE TOOK A TOUR DOWN THERE TO ONE OF THE GARAGES STAND DESIGNED AND IT'S UM I GREW UP CLOSE TO DOWNTOWN IF YOU WOULD PLOT ME IN THAT AREA, I WOULD HAVE NO IDEA WHERE I WAS. THAT'S SO DIFFERENT, AND IT'S SO FANTASTIC. ALL THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S HAPPENED DOWN THERE. AND THEN ON THE NEW ALBANY COS. SIDE AND PARTNERSHIP . TOM RUBY HAS BEEN, UM AVAILABLE AND PART OF OUR DESIGN TEAM AND REALLY A GREAT PARTNER AND TRYING TO MOVE THIS ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT BLACK FORWARD AND WE ALSO HAVE PRECEDENT. GUM BRIDGE FROM, UM RAMS UP ROBERT AM STERN ARCHITECTS OUT OF MANHATTAN THAT'S BEEN PART OF OUR DESIGN TEAM AND REALLY HAS A LOT OF EXPERIENCE WITH PUBLIC PROJECTS AND A LOT OF DIFFERENT SETTINGS , ESPECIALLY UNIVERSITY IN CAMPUS TYPE SETTINGS AS WELL. SO WE ARE ALL HERE. WE'RE ALL HERE TO TALK TO YOU AND HOPEFULLY HAVE A GREAT DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS PROJECT. I KNOW I WENT THROUGH THE ENTIRE PROJECT. UM LAST MONTH, AND TONIGHT REALLY IS ABOUT THIS FOUR APPLICATIONS THAT CHRIS IDENTIFIED. I JUST DID WANT TO REMIND YOU WHAT THE CITY IS. OVERALL GOALS ARE FOR THIS PROJECT. UM ONE IS TO HONOR THE ENVIRONMENTAL SIDE. WE WANT TO RESTORE THE ROADS AROUND STREAM COURT OR THIS SECTION IN PARTICULAR IS IN PRETTY BAD SHAPE, AND WE THINK THERE'S A LOT WE CAN DO TO REPLICATE WHAT'S BEEN DONE ACROSS THE STREET, AND THERE'S A LOT OF ENVIRONMENTAL BENEFITS THAT I THINK, UM IT'S OUR FAR REACHING[00:10:03]
IN TERMS OF THE ENTIRE CITY. WE DO WANT TO CELEBRATE VETERANS IN THE COMMUNITY BY IMPROVING THE VETERANS MEMORIAL. IT'S PRETTY, UM UNSATISFACTORY RIGHT NOW. I THINK OUR EXISTING VETERANS MEMORIAL WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HONOR VETERANS AND THEIR SERVICE AND THEIR FAMILIES IN A BETTER WAY WITH THIS PROJECT. WE DO WANT TO IMPROVE THIS LITTLE LENGTH OF DUBLIN, GRANVILLE ROAD BETWEEN THE SCHOOL CAMPUS AND MARKET SQUARE AND RESTAURANT CORRIDOR IN THE HISTORIC VILLAGE CENTER. AND THEN FINALLY, WE WANT TO EXPAND PUBLIC PARKING OPTIONS HERE. WITHIN THE VILLAGE CENTER. WE WANNA AH, THERE'S A LOT OF IN TERMS OF PROVIDING COVERED PARKING FOR CITY OPERATIONS, ESPECIALLY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT WILL BENEFIT FROM THIS PROJECT. BUT EVERYONE KNOWS THERE'S A TON OF EVENTS THAT HAPPENED IN THIS LOCATION DURING THE SUMMER. UM AND WE WANT TO PROVIDE SOME OVERFLOW PARKING, WHETHER IT'S AN EMPATH THEATER MCCOY EVENT, UM YOU KNOW, TAKE YOUR PICK EVERY WEEKEND. SOMETHING'S GOING ON IN THE VILLAGE CENTER AND SO THAT WILL HELP TO START ALLEVIATE SOME OF THOSE PARKING CONCERNS. SO THIS IS JUST THE SITE PLAN AGAIN. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS ENTIRE ROWS AROUND, TOO. IF YOU HEAR THAT TERM IS TALKING ABOUT THIS ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT BLOCK TONIGHT. WE'RE JUST GOING TO FOCUS IN ON THIS PARKING GARAGE. UM BUT IT DIDN'T WANT TO GO OVER A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE CONDITION OF THE BUILDINGS THAT WE ARE REQUESTING TO GET APPROVAL APPROVAL TO DEVAUX. SO ONE IS RIGHT HERE, ACTUALLY, UM, IN THE STREAM PRETTY MUCH SO YOU'LL SEE A PICTURE OF THAT AND THE OTHER TWO BUILDINGS ARE IN THIS LOCATION HERE BEHIND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. I THINK THIS LINE MAYBE GIVES YOU A LITTLE BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF JUST THE OVERALL BENEFITS TO THE PROJECT.UM ON BOTH DEMO REQUEST. THEY BOTH OFFER US THE ABILITY TO CREATE MORE OF A VISUAL AND PHYSICAL ACCESS CORRIDOR. FOR THE PROJECT, SO BY DOUBLING THE GARAGES WERE ABLE TO RELOCATE THE DRIVEWAY DOWN HERE, PULL IT AWAY FROM THE STREAM AND OPEN UP. OPEN UP THAT ACCESS TWO REYNOLDSBURG THE ROAD AND THEN IN THIS LOCATION IN THE MILL BUILDING ALLOWS US TO PUT THE STRING BACK. UM RELOCATED A BIT TO GET A MEANDER AND MAKE IT HEALTHIER STREAM. AND IT ALSO LETS US GET THAT VIEW CORRIDOR IN THAT PHYSICAL ACCESS BACK INTO THE PART BACK INTO VETERANS MEMORIAL IMPACT THE GARAGE. AND AS YOU'LL SEE FROM, UM THESE PICTURES, I MEAN, FROM AN ENVIRONMENTAL STANDPOINT. THIS BUILDING IS REALLY. PRETTY MUCH SERVING AS THE SOUTH BANK OF THE RIVER AND CREEK IN THIS LOCATION. UM AND THEN IN TERMS OF THE INTERIOR OF THE BUILDING.
YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN VACANT FOR QUITE A WHILE, UM, IT'S DETERIORATING. THESE PICTURES ALSO SHOW JUST KIND OF STATUS OF FLOOR AND THE ROOF AND THE CEILINGS IN HERE, UM AND SO WE THINK THERE IS A BETTER ENVIRONMENTAL BENEFIT TO THIS CITY AND BENEFIT TO THIS PROJECT BY DEMOING THIS BUILDING. AND THEN ON THE POLICE GARAGE SIDE. THIS IS JUST A SCREENSHOT OF A STREET VIEW DOWN R N A. BUT DOES SHOW HOW THIS ACCESS IS CLOSER TO THE STREAM AND BY RELOCATING IT HERE WE GET BETTER, UM, DISTANCE FROM THE STREAM BETTER VISUAL ACCESS INTO THE PARK. AND ALL THE PARKING OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT NEEDS ARE GOING TO BE SERVED. BY THE ONE LEVEL OF THE GARAGE THAT IS UNDERGROUND. SO ALL THEY'RE BUILDING ALL THEIR VEHICLES AND EQUIPMENT WILL BE STORED IN THAT SECURE IT WILL BE SECURED. IT WILL BE STORED IN THE LOWER LEVEL OF THE GARAGE.
JOHN, YOU HAVE A QUESTION, OKAY? ALL RIGHT. SO WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO JEFF HAN BONES JUST TO TAKE YOU THROUGH SOME OF THE SITE CONSIDERATIONS. EVERYONE FROM SK. I THINK YOU ALL ARE. THE DEPARTMENT PLANS RIGHT NOW. THESE ARE JUST GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF HIGH LEVEL. THOUGHTS. LOCATION. WOW. FOR ONE OF THE PRIMARY. THE GARAGE. BACK SILLY.
REALLY THE DEFENSE OPENING. STREAM. THE WAY WE ORIENTED. ACCESS TO THE SITE IS REALLY THINKING ABOUT YOU KNOW THAT SORT OF CUSTOMER. RESIDENTS COMING OPEN. AND ACCESSIBLE.
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HERE'S THE REPORT. POLICE STATION. AND FINALLY. SMALL RELATIVE. ON STREET PARKING. FOR REALLY? HE'S ABOUT TO UNDERSTAND ABILITY. PEOPLE ARE THE SUBSIDY EACH OF THE FOUR CORNER UH HUH. CIRCULATION. SO REGARDLESS OF WHAT VERY EASY TO GET IN AND OUT. I THINK MAYBE ALL OF THEM. JUST THE OTHER SIDE. THAT'S RIGHT. IMPRESSED. INCOME BRIDGE PARKING MY NAME IS STARTING ARCHITECTURE BEFORE. IT'S GOING TO BE HERE. TAKING THROUGH OUR DESIGN. UM. FIRST STOP IN AND SAY THAT WHEN WE WERE DESIGNING THIS PROJECT, WE'RE DESIGNING IT OUT OF THIS STRUCTURE. APARTMENT STRUCTURAL ACTUALLY HAS A BUILDING. SO FULL OF MELON CONTEXT THAT HAS TO FIGURE BUILDING THE SIZE SCALE. SO. HERE YOU CAN SEE ON THE LEFT VILLAGE HALL ELEVATION ON DRIVING POLICE STATION. WHAT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO SORT OF DATA. DATA POINTS. IT IS. WHICH IS ABOUT 24 25 FT, GIVEN JACK GREAT. NOT BECOMES THE MAIN. HORIZONTAL ELEMENT OF THE ACTUAL GARAGE BUILDING. ITSELF. ALL SEVEN YEARS. AS JEFF MENTIONED DESIGN. BOOKING. AND THE OTHER SON. EAST WEST SOUTH AND IS DIVIDED INTO THREE BASIC SECTIONS. AT LEAST FROM THE SOUTH SIDE. YEAH. BASED STRUCTURE. REALLY ACROSS THE ENVIRONMENT SCIENCE. SENATOR.PAUL HERE. BLANKET. SOMETHING. UM, THE PLAN IS FORWARD AND WE GO. SAVE KIND OF CORN URGENT, WHICH I REFERRED CIRCULATION STAIRS, CORNERS. ELEVATOR. MY QUEST CORNER RESTAURANTS. I'M SORRY AS WELL CHALLENGING ACCESS. ARKAN GRODD ALSO IN THE FUTURE PARK ITSELF. STRUCTURAL SYSTEM ITSELF IS FAIRLY STRAIGHTFORWARD. SEVEN. ON THE SOUTH SIDE JUST BEFORE THE WAY WE'VE DESIGNED IT. SIMPLE LITTLE RESIDENTIAL SCAN FAILED CORNER. THE SIZE OF THE WE'LL SEE IN DETAIL. THAT'S FINAL. ALSO INCREASE TO THE GARAGE WITH THIS ENTRY ON THE SALAD WEST. EACH.
TWO. SUBSIDE. PERHAPS THIS ISN'T MORE TELLING. SCALE. CORNERS ENTRANCE. FLAT. PARA COOKING AND RUNS AROUND THE BUILDING. ELEVATED CORNERS. YES. TO SO. OKAY? OKAY MR FROM COMING LOCATION. TALK. LET'S SEE. WE HAVE ALSO INCLUDED SMALL STRUCTURE THERE TO HIDE. STARTED SUCH AS THE GARBAGE TRASH MAN. TRANSFORMERS. ANOTHER VIEW. AND SO THE IDEA IS THAT HAVE BEEN.
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STRUGGLE FOR HIMSELF AND THE BUILDING ITSELF RACIST. AND ACCESS. THAT TRUNK. ARE WE GOING? BASKET. AND ELEVATION. THE SKY. SO. AND THREE POINTS EXIT POINTS AT EACH STAIRWAY CORNER. RIGHT? RIGHTS. FORD. FOUR LEVELS. GOLD HERE TO MAKE SURE THE PARAPET ISABELLA FIVE FT OR SEVEN FATHER. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT SORRY. PROJECTING HOW NICE QUESTION WAS RIGHT. UM, YOU CAN SEE HERE. WE STARTED TO LOOK AT THE LIGHTING. IRAN. SUCCESSFULLY. IT'S NOT A LOT OF LEG. REQUIRE THAT LISA. YOU'RE ABOUT 15 FT. TALL ABOUT DEATH. EIGHT OF THEM. SPY AND CENTER.WELL OF LIKE STUDENTS. TRUE. PEOPLE ALSO LOOK TERRIBLY ADAM PORTIONS. TO ALL THE OPENINGS ALL THE ELEMENTS. THIS CASE, IT HAPPENS TO ME RACIAL 1.5. QUITE A MOMENT SIDE. AND THEN THE MATERIALS ON THE SIDES. CLINTON GARY, WHICH IS SIMILAR. ALSO SHOWN CASCO COPING PHILIPPINES.
PROPOSING. PART HERE. THE FIGHTERS. WARNER'S AS WELL AS APPARENTLY ELEMENTS. APPLES ANDS THAT SIMPLE. DISCUSSION. AND THEN WITHIN THOSE WOULD BE ALUMINUM FRAMED. SCREAMING MUSIC. THESE ARE SOME OF THE WINDOWS CORNER. VIOLENCE BY WOMEN. EXTERIOR. PROVINCIAL CLOSER DETAIL EPISODE. HERE YOU CAN SEE FINAL TELLING HERE. HOW PRESIDENT SCREEN US NOW. ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE NECESSARY COMPUTE. PARKING RAMPS THAT RUN ALONG WITH THE SOLID THE SEVENTH. SORRY. SO WE'RE TO A POINT. PEOPLE SAYING BRAND ITSELF. SCREEN. SEE YOU AGAIN AND BACK THOSE HORIZONTAL SHADOWS YOU SEE? ACTUALLY OPENING THERE IS SOME LIGHT INDUSTRY. PARKING GARAGE OVER THE SAME IN SUCH SCHOOLS. TO SPEAK. SORRY. AND THEN. AND NORTH SIDE WHERE THE GRAPH AND IT'S FAIRLY OPEN. HAD JUST BEEN MESH. ON THE SCREEN. AND THAT THAT IS THE ENTIRETY OF THE SOUTH SIDE HAS IS SO LOUVERED, WHEREAS THE ENTIRETY OF THE NORTH SIDE IS NOT OKAY. ANALYSTS. CORRECT ONLY THE ONLY THE SOUTH IS THANK YOU. THAT'S HELPFUL. PRECEDENTS. PARKING LOT. THE STORY OF AMERICA. EXCUSE ME, PRESIDENT BUT ALSO HE STARTED TO LOOK AT IT. SOME HISTORIC MILLVILLE. THAT'S PRETTY GOOD.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THUS CONCLUDED THE PRESENTATION THAT IS CORRECT. WE ARE HAPPY TO
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ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ARE GIVEN MORE INFORMATION THAT YOU GUYS MAY NEED TO MAKE YOUR CONSIDERATION. I I ALMOST PROPOSED TO GO THROUGH EACH APPLICATION BECAUSE I THINK IF WE FOCUS ON EACH APPLICATION, THERE ARE SOME THAT I THINK ARE EASY, AND THERE ARE SOME THAT ARE HARDER. THAT THE CHURCH SHAREHOLDER QUESTIONS AT ONCE BECAUSE I THINK THAT MAY MAKE IT MORE DIFFICULT. I PRESUME WE HAVE TWO MOTION EACH APPLICATION . YEAH, I WOULD WANT TO. STILL REGARDING AIR B 1 45, WHICH IS A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS TO ALLOW FROM THE DEMOLITION OF THE NOBODY NOWHERE HOUSE. I PERSONALLY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? I THINK IT'S BEING IMPROVEMENT IN THE COMMUNITY ANYWAY. THE OTHER THAN POTENTIALLY USED AS A GRUNGE BAR , WHICH WHICH I SUPPOSE WE DON'T NEED ANY NEEDED MORE MONEY. UM YEAH, I'M WELL SATISFIED THAT THAT BACK IN THAT CASE. PROBABLR PRESIDENT, SO I DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH THAT, NOR DO I HAVE STUDIED THAT BUILDING CAREFULLY IN LOOKING AT WAYS TO ADVANCE IT. IT'S A IT'S A BUILDING THAT NEEDS TO BE DEMOLISHED. IN MY OPINION. I MEAN, I MAKE A MOTION. I WOULD MOVE APPROVAL OF A RB 1 45 2022. SECOND. MR ITEMS, YES. MR HENSON. MS MOORE? YES. MR MALLETS? YES. MR BROWN? YES. THANK YOU. SO REGARDING AIR B 1 48 2022 FOREST CERTIFICATE APPROPRIATE APPROPRIATENESS TO ALLOW FOR THE DEMOLITION OF TWO PARKING GARAGES ON THE DOOR. BUT HE POLICE DEPARTMENT SITE. 50 VILLAGE CALLED RIVER. SATISFIED THAT ONE OF THE CRITERIA EXIST. THAT IS, I DON'T THINK IT HAS ARCHITECTURAL SIGNIFICANCE, ALTHOUGH THEY'RE VERY NICE GARAGES OR THEY'RE NOT HISTORIC . I'M A LITTLE LESS WILLING TO THINK THEY HAVE NO REASONABLE ECONOMIC USE BECAUSE THEY'RE PERFECTLY GOOD GARAGES. AND IT SEEMS TO ME THAT REASONABLE ECONOMIC USES FOR THE PURPOSE FOR WHICH THEY BUILT. SO I DON'T AGREE THAT MORE THAN ONE CRITERIA IS MET. BUT WE DON'T HAVE TO GET INTO NUANCE THERE BECAUSE I THINK I THINK THE FIRST ONE SIZE IT SO I'M ALTHOUGH THEY'RE VERY NICE GARAGES. TOO BAD WE CAN'T MOVE THEM. IT WILL LET YOU KNOW IT'S JUST FOR INFORMATION AND BACKGROUND. WE DID LOOK AT DIFFERENT REUSE POTENTIALS, KNOWING THAT THE NEED FOR COVERED PARKING IS GOING TO GO AWAY WITH WITH THE NEW PARKING GARAGE THAT, UM, JUST REALLY EXPLORING EVERY OPTION BEFORE MAKING A DECISION TO DEMO. THOSE EXPLORE LIKE PUTTING, UM, YOU KNOW, POLICE DEPARTMENTS HAVE WORKOUT FACILITIES, DOING DIFFERENT THINGS WITH THEM. AND THERE JUST WASN'T UM ENOUGH THERE AT THAT WE THOUGHT MADE OF ECONOMIC SENSE TO REUSE. UM AND SO THE BENEFITS TO THE PARK KIND OF LED US TO THIS DECISION, AND I ASSUME THAT SOME OF THE SPACES IN THE GARAGE YOU'RE GONNA RESERVE POLICE. YES SO THE ENTIRE LOWER LOWER LEVEL WILL BE ACCESS, CONTROLLED AND ALL, UM ALL THE POLICE VEHICLES AND THEIR EQUIPMENT LIKE THEIR SPEED TRAILERS, AND THAT KIND OF EQUIPMENT WILL BE STORED IN A SECURE IN THE BOTTOM GROUND, LOWER LEVEL BRAIN. WHAT'S THAT? IT HAS GOOD DREAMS. YES, LET'S HOPE SO. UM ALL OF THE AFTERNOON THIS MORNING. I WOULD MOVE TO APPROVE. I'M SORRY. I DO HAVE ONE APOLOGIZE. I HAVE ONE QUICK QUESTION WITH THE REMOVAL OF THOSE GARAGES, DOES IT? PROMPT OR REQUIRE ANY ALTERATIONS TO THE NORTH ELEVATION OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, LIGHTING OR OTHERWISE, THAT NEED TO BE CONSIDERED BY PROBABLY NOT BY THIS BOARD, BUT NEED TO BE CONSIDERED IN THE CONTEXT OF THE WHOLE APPLICATION. IT DOES. YEAH AND SO THAT WAS ONE OF WHEN WE WERE GOING THROUGH THIS EVALUATION. DO YOU KEEP IT? ONE OF THE THINGS FACTORS WE CONSIDERED? WHAT DO WE KEEP IT JUST FOR ITS SCREENING PURPOSE. UM SO THE BACK OF THE GARAGES OR THE BACK OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS WHAT'S CALLED A SALLY PORT. UM AND THAT'S JUST KIND OF WHERE THE CRUISERS COME AND GO AND TRANSPORT PEOPLE AND, UM YOU KNOW, JUST THE OPERATIONS OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. WE ARE PLANNING A SIGNIFICANT LANDSCAPE BUFFER TO JUST ONE TO SCREEN IT, BUT ALSO TO MAKE IT KNOWN LIKE PEOPLE DON'T NEED TO WALK. IT'S NOT A PUBLIC. IT'S NOT A PUBLIC[00:30:04]
SPACE FOR PEOPLE TO GO. THANK YOU FOR THAT. I COULDN'T TELL JUST FROM THE YOU KNOW? STATE OF WHERE THINGS ARE NOW WHAT WAS BEING CONSIDERED, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT'S BEING ADDRESSED, AND IT'S LIKELY THAT SOME OF THOSE PAST MAY BUMP NORTH A LITTLE BIT TOO. JUST GIVE US A LITTLE MORE ROOM FOR THAT. YOU KNOW, WE MAY EVEN SEE LIKE A ONE RAIL. YOU KNOW, KIND OF NOT HORSE FENCE BY KIND OF WHAT YOU WOULD SEE ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD JUST LIKE REALLY MAKE IT CLEAR THAT THIS ISN'T A PUBLIC ACCESS POINT, SO THAT'LL THAT'LL BE NOTED WITH THE REVISED CURB CUT LOCATION THAT WILL BE CLEARED UP THE FOLKS WANTING TO TURN IN THEIR YES. SO THOSE WILL BE DEFINITELY SIGNAGE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT. DO THEY WANT, YOU KNOW, OR IS THERE A NEED FOR SOME SORT OF GATE OR SECURE ACCESS AT THIS POINT? THEY DON'T THINK THERE IS, UM BUT THAT CERTAINLY IT'S BEEN DESIGNED THAT IF THAT'S NEEDED, WE COULD ADD SOMETHING LIKE THAT. ACTUALLY AND I'M SURE THE ANSWER IS YOU GUYS ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THIS? HAVING THE POLICE DEPARTMENT VEHICLES ON THE GROUND FLOOR. THIS GARAGE WAS THERE. DID SHE JONES LIKE WEIGH IN ON WHETHER OR NOT THAT WOULD IMPEDE THE AVAILABILITY OF EMERGENCY SERVICES. YEAH HE WE'VE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS CHIEF JOAN JONES ABOUT THAT, AND CERTAINLY SOME OF THE AREAS SO TO THE KIND OF EAST OF THE SALLY PORTS. THERE ARE FIVE PARKING SPACES AND WE YAHOO! RIGHT HERE. NOW THERE IS PARKING ALLOWED EVEN TODAY ON ONE SIDE OF VILLAGE HALL, SO WE ANTICIPATE THERE PROBABLY USED THAT DURING THE COURSE OF LIKE THE NORMAL SHIFT, OKAY, BUT THEN THEIR SHIFT CHANGES. UH THE I THINK, UM, HE WAS SATISFIED THAT THERE'S ADEQUATE ACCESS. THANK YOU. GOOD QUESTION. I'M SORRY.ONE MORE, UM, DOES IS IT CONTEMPLATED THAT THERE'LL BE A CHANGE IN PAVING PATTERN OR ANY INDICATION HERE? THAT SORT OF QUIETLY SUGGEST THAT'S NOT FOR PUBLIC TRAVEL AT LEAST. AS A PRIMARY MEANS. ABSOLUTELY YES. SO I THINK IT'S WE'RE TRYING TO FIND THAT KIND OF BALANCE BETWEEN SIGNAGE AND, YOU KNOW, USE OF MATERIALS AND THOSE CUES THAT MAKE IT CLEAR THAT THIS IS FOR POLICE DEPARTMENTS USE. THANK YOU. THAT TOO. YOU THINK I FORGOT TO MENTION YOUR BODY BUILDING ON MAIN STREET. OUR OBJECTIVE IS TO ELIMINATE 6% STALLS. IN THE BATH BODY WORKS BUILDING. OUR OBJECTIVE IS TO ELIMINATE THAT PARKING LOT HAVE BEEN WORKING IN THE FUTURE PARKING GARAGE. WE HAVE NOT EAT THAT DEAL WITH HIM YET, BUT WE'RE WORKING TOWARDS GETTING THAT DONE. AS WELL AS THE ELIMINATION OF THE YOUNG. PRIVATE WHAT YOUR PRIVACY DEPENDS AND ANYTHING BACKYARD. THAT'S ANOTHER TOOL TO OPEN UP. WITH THAT ELIMINATE THE CURB, CUT FOR BATH AND BODY AS WELL. YEAH. BUT CONCEPTUALLY THAT THEY'RE IN AGREEMENT THAT'S NOW EMPLOYER DISASTER. WE WILL BE ABLE TO GET IT DONE. WE GET A BAD RAP, BUT I'M SURE YOU HAVE VERY A LAWYERS ABOUT THAT. EXCUSE ME. DO WE HAVE A NORTH ELEVATION OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. EVERYTHING IN HERE IS FROM THE SOUTH. THAT I DON'T SEE ANY NORTH ELEVATION OF THAT.
COULD YOU SEE IT IN THAT STREET THAT GRAB THE STREET VIEW SHOT. I THINK THERE ARE. UM YOU CAN'T REALLY IT'S IN SHADOW. SO THIS IS THIS, SO I THINK THERE ARE TWO. TOO WIDE, DOUBLE FAKE GARAGE DOORS BACK THERE. IF MY MEMORY IS CORRECT, UM, ONE IS A SALLY PORT AND THEN ONE IS JUST COVERED SPACE WHERE OFFICERS CAN COME AND GO. YEAH, I'M JUST LOOKING AT THAT AS A WHOLE, WITH THE RAILING ABOVE AND I THINK THERE'S A WHOLE LOT MORE GOING ON THERE THAT WE ONCE. THOSE ARE OTHER GARAGES ARE REMOVED. DON'T YOU'RE NOT. I MEAN, I DON'T SEE THE CEMETERY IS NOT THERE. TO, UM. THAT I CAN SEE. YEAH. YEAH, I'M JUST LOOKING AT AERIAL. PHILADELPHIA. YEAH, OKAY. EITHER WAY, YEAH. YEAH I THINK WE WOULD BE. I THINK THERE'S TWO OBJECTIVES FOR US. ONE IS JUST
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TO LIKE I SAID TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M JUST LOOKING AT AN AERIAL, UM IT'S KNOWN THAT IT'S FOR POLICE USE, BUT THEN ALSO TO PROVIDE A VISUAL BUFFER. SO IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY IDEAS ABOUT A LANDSCAPE TREATMENT THAT MIGHT WORK, UM OR OTHER WAYS TO MITIGATE THAT VIEW, OR CERTAINLY OPEN TO THOSE SUGGESTIONS. GET UM I GUESS I CAN WE, UH QUALIFY THIS CAN WE APPROVED RV 1 46 48 1 48 WITH THE CONDITION THAT THE LANDSCAPING FOR THE BACK OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT COME TO US.SURE. I MEAN, SURE IS AND I'M OKAY WITH THAT, IF IT'S ALLOWED, YOU KNOW. YEAH, I THINK THAT WOULD BE FINE. IS THAT A MOTION? I'M NOT THE MOTION GUY ON THIS ONE SOMEBODY ELSE? OR DOWN.
ALRIGHT I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE RB 1 48 2022. CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS.
FOR THE DEMOLITION OF THE POLICE STRUCTURES WITH THE CONDITION THAT THE EVENTUAL LANDSCAPE PACKAGE. BEHIND THE POLICE STATION AND ANY ALTERATIONS TO THE ELEVATION COME TO THE RB.
ONE SECOND. MR BROWN. YES. MR ITEM. YES, MR HENSON? YES. MR MALLETS? YES, YES. SO OUR NEXT.
CASES ARE B 1 46 2022 FOR CERTIFICATE APPROPRIATENESS TO ADD PUBLIC. PUBLIC PARKING GARAGE. BUILDING TYPOLOGY TO THE URBAN CENTER CODE FOR DEVELOPMENT SITE GENERALLY LOCATED EAST OF MAIN STREET, SOUTH GRANVILLE STREET. WEST OF HIGH STREET IN NORTH OF VILLAGE HALL ROAD. ACTUALLY HELP ME LOOK. THIS IS WHAT WE'RE REALLY REMIND ME WHAT MAIN STREET 60 TO 60 TO 62 IS MAINSTREAM. GRANVILLE STREET IS OLD 1 61, OKAY? HIGH STREET IS. SIX AND 5675. AND OKAY, SO THIS CERTIFICATE THIS TOPOLOGY ONLY APPLIES IN ROWS RUN TO CORRECT ANYPLACE ELSE THAT'S CORRECT. I MISSED THAT. THANK YOU. UM THE ONLY QUESTION I HAD ON THIS TOPOLOGY IS WHY DOES THE MAXIMUM NEED TO BE 55? WHY ISN'T IT? WHY ISN'T IT IS POLICIES BUILDING WHICH IS 37 A HALF. I THINK I THINK THE THOSE DEVELOPMENTS SENIORS WERE DRAFTED TO MATCH UM THE ALREADY PERMITTED BUILDING APOLOGIES IN THAT SUB DISTRICT. I THINK COULD IT BE LOWERED TO MATCH THE HEIGHT OF THE GARAGE? PROBABLY I DON'T KNOW WHY. I MEAN, IF ANYBODY WANTS TO PUT ANOTHER GARAGE IN SOMEPLACE. I'D LIKE THEM TO COME BACK TO US. AND THAT ALREADY AT 55 FT. BROAD BROAD APPROVED. GOTCHA YEAH, PROBABLY NOT A BIG RISK. WHY WHY APPROVE? 55? WE DON'T NEED IT IDEA. IS IT IS THE 37 WITH THAT? AND IS THAT UP TO THE TOP? OKAY? YEAH. I COULD PROBABLY COMFORTABLE WITH A MAXIMUM LIKE 40 FT. JUST TO BE SAVED, YOU KNOW, WORKING TO THE FOUND DESIGN? I MEAN, YEAH. I MEAN, YEAH, BUT I'M HAPPY BATHROOM CURRENCY PLUS THE PLACE. OR OR DOES IT NEED TO BE LIMITED BY STORY RATHER THAN BY HEIGHT? 55 THE STOOL PRETTY COLD. RIGHT BUT IF YOU SAID FOUR STORIES, NO ONE'S GONNA DO IT 55 TALL BUILDING FOR FOUR STORIES. I SHOULDN'T SAY NO ONE. SOMEBODY WILL NO. WHAT I SAID THAT, BUT I'M OKAY WITH THAT. I'M OKAY WITH JUST GOING 40 FT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S COVERED FOR THE REASON FOR THE RISK THAT YOU BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, RIGHT NOW , WHAT'S PROPOSED ONLY HAS THREE STORIES. WHETHER IT BE THROUGH FOUR. YEAH IF WE SAY 40, THEN WE THAT'S WHAT I'M REALLY WORRIED ABOUT. HOW ACTUALLY TALKING.
IT'S STILL WITHIN THIS CONFINED AREA. YEAH LET'S 55 FOR YOU. RIGHT. IT HAS TO BE ANY OTHER GARAGES THAT WOULD BE CONTEMPLATED. I GUESS I'M ASKING WOULD ANY OTHER GARAGES TO BE CONTEMPLATED? IN THE VILLAGE CENTER. THEY WOULD HAVE TO HAVE THEIR OWN TYPOLOGY APPROVED ALONG WITH THE GARAGE. BORROWING IT WILL BE BUILT ON TOP OF THE PARK THAT'S BEING PROPOSED HERE.
IS THAT ORDERS THAT I SAY THAT CORRECTLY? YES THE URBAN CENTER CODE DOES CONTEMPLATE LIKE A
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PARKING GARAGE DEVELOPED AS PART OF A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT LIKE A LINER BUILDING BEHIND THE LINER BUILDING. BUT IF IT'S IF IT IS A STANDALONE PARKING GROUNDS YESTERDAY, CORRECT WHAT I'M GOING BACK, END UP WITH MIKE DIRECT CITY HALL AND PARKING FACILITIES THAT I WANT THAT ONLY TO BE 40 FT. YOU CAN TELL HIM UM ALRIGHT, I WOULD MOVE APPROVAL OF RB 1 46 2022 ON THE CONDITION THAT THE BUILDING HEIGHT MAXIMUM. THE 14TH. SECOND. I'M SORRY. WHO WAS THE 2ND 2ND? MR ITEMS. YES MR HENSON? YES, MR BROWN? YES MISS MORE? YES, MR MALLON? YES? OUR NEXT CASE IS 1 47 2022 FOR CERTIFICATE APPROPRIATENESS TO ALLOW THE CONSTRUCTION OF A PUBLIC PARKING GARAGE ON THE DEVELOPMENT SIDE GENERAL, GENERALLY LOCATED EAST OF MAIN STREET, SOUTH OF GRANVILLE STREET, WEST OF HIGH STREET IN NORTH OF VILLAGE HALL ROAD. THE APPLICANT CITY OF NEW ALBANY. AND. IN GENERAL, UM. I WONDER. BECAUSE THIS SELF EVOLUTION DOESN'T REALLY SHOW THE. CRESCENT SHAPE OF IT. IT'S JUST A FLAT ON THIS, OBVIOUSLY IN THIS IMAGE, BUT THERE'S NO THE PRONOUNCED NATURE OF THE CENTER OF THE OF THE PARKING STRUCTURE. SHOULD IT? MY QUESTION IS SHOULD BE MORE PRONOUNCED AS IT FACES THE PUBLIC STREET AND LET ME MAYBE PUT THAT IN THE CONTEXT OF WHAT WE'VE GOT TO APPROVE. WHICH IS, YOU KNOW THE GR SECTION EIGHT.ROMAN THREE SUB THREE STATE THAT ENTRANCES TO CIVIC BUILDINGS SHALL BE ORIENTED TOWARDS PRIMARY STREETS AND ROADS AND SHALL BE OF THE DISTINCTIVE CHARACTER THAT MAKES THEM EASY TO LOCATE. AND SO IT YOUR BELIEF SEEMS TO ME THAT AS I LOOK AT THIS, UM THE I LOOK AT THIS. IT THESE TWO LITTLE ENTRANCES ON EITHER SIDE. IF THIS WAS A. IF THIS WAS A COMMERCIAL BUILDING OR A RESIDENTIAL BUILDING. IT. IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THAT'S THE FRONT. I MEAN, LET'S LOOK AT THE ENTIRE SOUTH ELEVATION. MAYBE THAT'S THE ONE. I MEAN, I LOOK AT AT ROAD FROM THE YEAH, ONE LITTLE BIT. I SEE TOO LITTLE, TOO LITTLE ENTRANCES ON EITHER SIDE. AND SO THAT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THE PRIMARY FACADE. I RECOGNIZE THAT WHEN WE'RE MISSING THE FURY DIMENSIONAL.
BUT IF I LOOK AT OTHER STRUCK OTHER STRUCTURES WHEN I GO BACK, FOR EXAMPLE, TO THE AT THE END HERE OF THIS PROPOSAL. WE'VE GOT THE OTHER EXAMPLES OF BUILDINGS THAT WERE USED AS REFERENCE POINTS. HAVING ONE OF THOSE HASN'T IN EVERY ONE OF THOSE LOOKS LIKE IT'S GOT IT. THAT'S THE FRONT OF IT. AND HERE WE'VE GOT TWO LITTLE TO LITTLE DOORWAYS ON EITHER MILLER AND NOTHING THAT SAYS THIS IS THE FRONT. I YOU KNOW, I HAD A RELATED QUESTION. I'M JUST WONDERING IF WHAT STAFF THINKS ABOUT FUTURE DEVELOPMENT ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF VILLAGE HALL.
WHETHER A MORE CENTRAL ACCESS POINT MIGHT BE YOU KNOW, CALL. FOR THERE. YOU KNOW, THE DOORS ARE A FEW 100 COUPLE 100 FT APART. AND I DON'T KNOW IF MR RYAN'S POINT IF PEOPLE KNOW, INACCESSIBLE POINT IN THE CENTER MAKES SENSE. WELL IN MY CASE, I'M NOT EVEN TALKING ABOUT ONE THAT THAT'S THE RAMP SIDE, CHRIS . YOU HAVE THE EXAMPLE OF THE LAST LINK. I GAVE YOU THE ONE THAT IS OF THE WILLIAMSBURG GARAGE. IT'S THE GLAVINE HOMES LINK. THIS ONE HERE. MIKE. I'M NOT SAYING THAT THIS GRAVE IN HOMES LINK IS THE ANSWER HERE, AND I'M NOT SURE THAT THE APPLE HOLD. AND SO YOU KNOW SOMETHING THAT SAYS THAT'S JUST THIS IS THE PART VERSUS VERSUS THIS LONG THIS LONG. ASSAD BLANK FACADE, WHICH RIGHT NOW IS THAT'S GOING TO BE A WE'LL GET WITH THE QUESTION OF THE COLORATION OF THE LOUVERS LATER, BUT YEAH, SOMETHING THAT SAYS HERE IT IS.
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HERE'S THE BUILDING. HERE'S ME NOW AGAIN THAT DOESN'T HAVE TO WORK. I DON'T CARE WHAT IT WAS, BUT THAT'S I WAS JUST ABOUT TO MAKE THAT COMMENT. I THINK I DON'T WANT TO WAX PHILOSOPHICAL HERE, BUT IT'S A QUESTION OF HONESTY. I MEAN, ENTRIES ARE NOT AT THE CENTER OF THIS BUILDING FUNCTIONALLY. THE ENTRIES ARE FROM IN INTENT AS THEY RELATE TO THE FUNCTIONAL USE OF THE BUILDING. AND IN THAT REGARD, I SUPPORT THE SCALE AND PROPORTIONS. BUT IF I COULD ASK YOU TO GO BACK TO THE ELEVATION, IT WAS JUST ON SCREEN. I AM I AM STRUGGLING WITH THE SAME QUESTION ABOUT THIS ELEVATION. BUT FOR DIFFERENT REASONS. AND SO MY CONCERN IS THAT I THINK IT'S A BIG BUILDING AND TO TAKE MY COMMENT ONE STEP FURTHER. ITR DISHONESTY, DEPENDING ON PESSIMISTIC YOU ARE IS, UM ALWAYS A PROBLEM WITH THE PARKING STRUCTURE. WE HAVE SO MANY EXAMPLES WHERE IT'S BEEN GLAD TO BE SOMETHING THAT IT IS NOT AND IN THIS CASE I WOULD SAY IT'S GOOD THAT IT'S NOT. I DON'T THINK THAT'S A PERSONALLY, I THINK THAT'S THE WRONG DIRECTION TO TAKE THE DESIGN. HOWEVER I THINK THERE'S AN UNANTICIPATED CONSEQUENCE OF THE DESIGN, WHICH IS PROBABLY MORE OF A REFLECTION OF THE KINK IN THE OF THE OF THE ADDRESSING THE STREET THAT FROM THE SOUTH SIDE, IT HAS A ALMOST IN A STADIUM AESTHETIC. THAT WAS SURE NOT ANTICIPATED BUT IS LEAVING ME WONDERING IF THERE'S GOOD SEATS ON THE UPPER ROW OF THAT PARAPET, SO I WONDER IF THERE ISN'T SOME. THAT WAS A JOKE. SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I WONDER IF THAT CENTER BAY THREE.THE. THAT PIECE DOESN'T NEED ADDITIONAL ARTICULATION. PERHAPS HEIGHT, PERHAPS OPPOSING, UH, FLANKING ELEMENTS FROM THE CORNERS THAT WILL BREAK THE SCALE DOWN AND ALLOW IT TO ADDRESS EACH BEND OF THE STREET IN A MORE APPROPRIATE MANNER. I DON'T KNOW, BUT THAT'S WHAT I'M STRUGGLING WITH THAT. WOULD THAT WOULD THAT WOULD MEET MY CONCERN JUST IN TERMS OF THIS. AGAIN.
LARGE THERE'S A SLIGHT BUMP UP ON TOP, BUT IT DOESN'T SEEM TO GET ME SO I WOULD JUST NOT WANT TO CALL ATTENTION TO IT AS AN ENTRANCE. THAT'S FINE. I MEAN, FUNCTIONING ENTRANCES. I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH NOT CALLING ATTENTION TO THE ENTRANCE. THERE IS A STATEMENT HERE THAT I LIKED AND IT SAYS, WHILE THE FUNCTION OF THE PROPOSAL IS A PARKING GARAGE, IT IS DESIGNED AS A BUILDING IN ORDER TO PRESERVE THE CHARACTER OF THE VILLAGE CENTER, AS RECOMMENDED IN THE ENGAGEMENT OBVIOUS, SO I LOVE THAT IT DOES LOOK LIKE A BUILDING. AND I LIKE THAT THE OPENINGS ARE OFTEN SIDE BECAUSE THAT'S NOT A PRETTY ELEMENTS OF PARKING GARAGE, BUT I DID A QUICK STUDY BECAUSE I CALCULATED ABOUT 350 FT OR SO THE WIDTH OF THE BUILDING, WHICH IS TO YOUR POINT VERY, VERY LONG AND THAT CENTER PARAPETS WITH COPING THAT'S HAMPERED ON THE ON THE END. IT LOOKS TO BE THE SAME EXACT SCALE AS THE SMALLER PIERS. AND I THINK IF YOU PULL IT UP ABOUT 25% SO NOT HUGE, BUT JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE. YOU WILL GET MORE OF A DELINEATION. AND I KNOW THAT THE WAY IT UM ANGLES ON THE SIDE. IT'S GOING TO STAND A LITTLE BIT MORE PROUD ANYWAY, BUT I FEEL LIKE IT'S JUST NOT DELINEATED ENOUGH. JUST JUST MY OPINION IF IT WERE A MILL. BACK IN THE DAY. THAT'S WHERE IT WOULD HAVE SAID. DEREK AND COMPANY. LET'S HAVE A I MEAN IT WOULD HAVE BEEN RIGHT THERE RIGHT AND SONS HAVE BEEN, SON. YES. MHM.
YEAH. I THINK, AND YOU DID IT AND DIDN'T REJECT IT. GOOD OKAY. JUST WANNA MAKE SURE ENGAGED.
THERE WAS A DID IT AND IT WAS LIKE THAT SO GOOD. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, AND ALL START WITH SAYING THAT I REALLY LIKE THIS BUILDING AND I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE FANTASTIC IN THE COMMUNITY. UM, ALSO LOOKING AT IT WITHOUT LANDSCAPING. IF THERE WAS SOME PRONOUNCED LANDSCAPING ON THOSE CORNERS OF THAT CENTERPIECE, IT COULD TOTALLY CHANGED THE VIEW OF IT. SO UM, I THINK THERE'S A BALANCE OF THAT LANDSCAPING AND POSSIBLY A LITTLE HIGHER. UM, PARAPET WALL. SO THAT'S. I THINK WHEN I MOVE ONTO MY NEXT CONCERN , YES, THIS ONE AGAIN. I THINK I THINK MAYBE WE COULD COME UP WITH WHAT THE SOLUTION IS. BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE SOME SOLUTION ON THAT. THE OTHER CONCERN I'VE GOT
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REALLY GOES TO THE CHOICE OF COLOR FOR THE SCREENS. AND RECOGNIZING THAT ON THREE OF THE ELEVATIONS ARE NOT GOING TO BE AS DARK AS PRESENTED, BUT ON THE VILLAGE HALL ROADSIDE AGAIN, JUST GOING WITH THIS COLOR. I LOOK AT THE DARK THAT IS, AND THEN I DRIVING AROUND THIS VILLAGE CENTER HISTORIC CENTER. I LOOKED FOR OTHER EXAMPLES WHERE THE NOT BEING AN ARCHITECT ON ONE OF THOSE LAWYERS AND SCREWS THINGS UP, BUT NOT BEING AN ARCHITECT. IT'S THE OPENING BETWEEN BETWEEN THE BRICK UM YOU KNOW HE'S GOT ONLY I THINK THREE EXAMPLES, MAYBE FOUR EXAMPLES WHERE THE OPENINGS ARE DARK IN THE VILLAGE CENTER IN THE STORE . WE'VE GOT THE INFINITE CHURCH, THE FORMER PARTY CENTER. WE'VE GOT THROUGH DOG. UM AND I THINK WE'VE GOT 1 81 OR MAYBE. MELLOW MUSHROOM. ALL THE EVEN THAT CASE, THE OPENINGS ARE LIGHTER GRAVE AND THEN THE REST AND THEN I THINK ONE OF THE FRONTS ON THE AND WHAT I'LL CALL THE BUILDING WHERE I IMPROVED THE ROOF LINE OF THE BACK. UH THERE IS ALL DARK. AND EVERYTHING ELSE IS, YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE VILLAGE VILLAGE HALL AND THE POLICE STATION. THE WHAT'S IN THE WINDOW OPENINGS IS WHITE. AND SO WHEN I LOOK AT ALL THAT DARK, IT BRINGS OUT IT BRINGS OUT A BUILDING. IT DOESN'T BRING OUT PARKING GARAGE, WHICH IS YET BUT IT DOES TO ME THIS LOOKS LIKE SOMETHING FROM A FROM A DARKNESS STANDPOINT THAT WE'D SEE IN THE OFFICE PARK. RATHER THAN IN THE VILLAGE CENTER OF THE SCHOOL SCHOOL CAMPUS, WHERE THE HISTORIC CENTER AND WITH ALL THE DETAILING WE HAVE WITH THE YOU KNOW THE COLUMNS, IONIC COLUMNS , I THINK, IS THAT THAT RIGHT WITH THE LITTLE THING, YEAH, COLUMNS REALLY ATTRACTIVE. BUT WE WE'VE RECEIVED RECEDED THEM SUCH THE QUESTION IS, CAN THEY SHOULD SHOULD THEY BE AS DARK AS AS WHY ARE THEY THAT DARK AND SHOULD BE THAT DARK AND IN THE CONTEXT OF ALL THE OTHER DEVELOPMENT? I DON'T KNOW WHETHER I DON'T HELEN OR ANYBODY ELSE HAS HAVE SHARES THAT CONCERN. I. PERSONALLY THE WITHIN BEING ON THE SOUTHERN SIDE. BUT PERSONALLY, MY OPINION IS THIS. I THINK IT'S A VALID CONCERN, HOWEVER, WITH THEM BEING ON THE SOUTHERN SIDE OF THE BUILDING, WELL KNIT. SHADING IS GOING TO HAPPEN. IT'S GOING TO BE MOVEMENT AND YOU'LL SEE THE DEPTH OF THAT. I THINK BECAUSE OF THAT. I'M NOT SIMON.MISSING SOMETHING. I DON'T FIND IT OBJECTIONABLE. I THINK IT'S IT IS. KIND OF CREATING A NEGATIVE SPACE. YOU KNOW, AS IT RELATES TO THE LARGE OPENINGS FOR THE GARAGE. I DO. I ALSO SEE YOUR POINT ON IT FROM A LACK OF PRESIDENT. I SEE YOUR POINT. BUT I KEEP THINKING TO MYSELF. I'M SORT OF MENTALLY PHOTOSHOPPING IT AND THINKING IS THE ALTERNATIVE BETTER AND I'M NOT SURE. I ALSO GENUINELY HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT THE ABILITY TO MAINTAIN ALL THESE LOUVERS AND KEEP THEM FREE FROM NATURE. UM AND I THINK THAT'S ONLY GOING TO BE MADE WORSE BY AGREE. SO I MEAN, I'M SORT OF TALKING MYSELF IN AND OUT OF THIS, BUT I FIND IT APPEALING AESTHETICALLY, BUT THAT IN AND OF ITSELF ISN'T A JUSTIFICATION TO APPROVE. BUT I THERE'S ONLY SO MANY OPTIONS. I THINK I MEAN AND AGAIN. I'M NOT GONNA I HAVE HAD SOME OTHER EXAMPLES OF WHICH I'M NOT GONNA WHICH AREN'T WORTH DISCUSSING. THAT'S TOO MUCH OF A CHANGE PROPOSED TO GO THERE THAT OFFERED POTENTIAL ALTERNATIVES TO THIS MASS AMOUNT OF DARK. BUT I MEAN, IF YOU I GUESS THAT THAT IS A CONCERN, BUT I GUESS IT'S MAINLY GOING TO EXIST ON THE SOUTH. IT'S NOT GOING TO EXIST ON THE OTHER THREE. UM I MEAN, IF NOBODY ELSE SHARES MY CONCERN, I'M HAPPY TO BELIEVE IT COULD POTENTIALLY BE MEDIATED BY THE UNRESOLVED QUESTION OF WHAT HAPPENS IN THE CENTER THREE DAYS VERSUS THE FIVE SO I THINK IT'S GOING. IT'S UNSOLVED, UNCERTAIN FOR ME. SO THE OTHER COMMENTS AT LEAST I'VE GOT WOULD BE ALTHOUGH I THINK THE APPLICATION ANTICIPATES THAT STAFF WOULD APPROVE LANDSCAPING FOR THIS LIKE THAT TO COME BACK. GIVEN THAT I THINK THE IMPACT IS SOMETHING THAT'S IMPORTANT. HOW DOES THE BOARD FEEL ABOUT LIGHTING? WE WANT TO SEE LIGHTING AS WELL. I WOULD HAVE. I APPRECIATE THAT THE LIGHT HAS BEEN CONSIDERED AND MINIMIZED.
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AS FAR AS THE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT? WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE, SO I MEAN, I'M SATISFIED WITH THE CUT OFF NATURE OF THE FIXTURE AND THE QUANTITY BUT THERE'S. I GUESS I WOULD SAY I LEAVE THAT TO THE REST OF THE BOARD AS TO WHETHER MY BROTHER'S LANDSCAPING I'D LIKE TO SEE THE FIXTURES. OKAY SO THEN, UM SO THE QUESTION IS, HOW DO WE CAN WE? CAN WE COME UP WITH SOMETHING IN THIS CONTEXT TO APPROVED REVISION TO THE FACADE? IS IT ENOUGH TO RAISE THAT ARABIC. WHERE DO WE HAVE ANYTHING? ANY OTHER VOTERS? I HAVE A REACTION. I'LL CERTAINLY LET THE DESIGN TEAM REACT. I FEEL, UM CONSIDERING PRESTON'S EARLIER COMMENTS, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE WERE HEADED IN THAT. GENERAL DIRECTION. UM ANYWAYS, SO I THINK THESE ARE GOOD DISCUSSIONS TO HAVE KIND OF FURTHER ALONG THAT THAT'S THE RIGHT WAY TO GO. UM IF YOU TRUST US TO KIND OF MOVE THAT FORWARD IN THE SPIRIT OF THE DISCUSSION TONIGHT, I THINK WE CAN, UM GO IN THAT DIRECTION. WE WOULD CERTAINLY IF IT DOESN'T WORK OR IF WE COME UP WITH SOMETHING DIFFERENT WOULD BE HAPPY TO COME BACK. UM BUT IF THAT'S KIND OF LET THE DESIGN TEAM IF WE ARE PRETTY CONFIDENT THAT WILL WORK. UM MAKING THAT A CONDITION OF APPROVAL. I THINK, CERTAINLY WOULD, UM WOULD WORK FOR TONIGHT'S APPLICATION. WHAT? WHAT? WHAT WHAT IS WHAT? WHAT CONDITION ARE WE WANT THE CENTER THREE BAYS TO BE ACCENTUATED IN TO BE EMPHASIZED. IN SOME WAY. I WHAT I HEARD IS THINK YOU WANT THOSE TO BE MORE PROMINENT? YES UM MAYBE ADD HEIGHT IF WE WANT TO QUANTIFY IT BY A PERCENTAGE, UM YOU KNOW WE WERE. I THINK EVERYTHING YOU HIT ON OR ARE THINGS THAT ARE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT AND THINGS THAT WE'VE DISGUSTING IS A VERY LONG BUILDING. I HAVEN'T THOUGHT OF IT AS A STADIUM, BUT YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. NO IT'S CLEAR THAT THAT KINK IN THE VILLAGE HALL ROAD HAS BEEN A DEFINING, YOU KNOW, FACTOR AND THE DESIGN OF THE GRADUATE, BUT IT MAY HAVE GOOD SEATS FOR VIEWING FIREWORKS ON YOUR LIFE FOR YOU SO THAT MAYBE YOU MAY WANT TO RESERVE US A SPACE. MM HMM. I MEAN, I THINK A MORE PROMINENT, UH THAT YOU KNOW THE THREE BAY CENTER THREE BAYS. IF THERE ARE OTHER WAYS YOU WANT TO DESCRIBE IT, I THINK WE GET THE KIND OF GENERAL UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT YOUR DISCUSSION HAS BEEN. I MEAN, I'M HAPPY TO TRUST HIM. YEAH, I'M OKAY WITH. WHAT'S DESCRIBED TO DO THINK I DO THINK IT'S UNRESOLVED IN THAT AREA, SO IF IT IF IT COMES BACK AS AS RESOLVED THAT THAT'S GREAT. I MEAN, I GUESS WHAT? WE'RE REALLY APPROVING. UH IF WE'RE APPROVING TONIGHT WOULD BE THE OVERALL YOU KNOW, MASS AND RHYTHM AND PROPORTION AND SCALE OF THE BUILDING AND LAYOUT. WE'RE APPROVING ALL THE BONES OF IT SUBJECT TO THAT. FINESSE YOU KNOW, I KNOW FINESSE IS PROBABLY NOT A LEGAL TERM. WE CAN REST HER HAT ON JOHN, BUT, UM, IT'S I THINK WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A RATHER NARROW FOCUS OF THE OVERALL DESIGN. HOW TO PUT THAT INTO WORDS AS SOMEBODY ELSE'S JOB. WELL, LET ME. YOU BECOME THIS 12 AND 11 OF THE ONE HAS IDEAS. PLEASE PLEASE, JUST LET ME ALSO SAY COMMENTS. VARIOUS DISCUSSION HERE NOTWITHSTANDING , THIS IS REALLY NICE WORK.EXCELLENT AGAIN. WE'RE JUST TRYING TO. IT'S BEAUTIFUL STANDPOINT, TOO. TO MAKE IT MAKE IT. MAKE US FEEL EVEN WARMER ABOUT IT. BUT YOU KNOW, WE HAVEN'T ONLY KNOWS THERE ARE LOTS OF EXAMPLES OF BUILDINGS THAT I'VE SEEN. IT WAS LIKE SO WE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS VERY NEW ALBANY SO NICELY DONE. THANK YOU FOR SAYING THAT. SO I WOULD MOVE APPROVAL OF AIR B 1 47 2022. ON THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS. ONE THAT THE LIGHTING PLAN AND. COME BACK TO COME BACK TO THE RV TO THE LANDSCAPING COME BACK TO THE ERA P FOR FINAL APPROVALS AND THREE THERE. THE CENTER THREE BAYS ON THE SOUTH ELEVATION. BE MADE MORE PROMINENT IN ANY MANNER THAT IS SUBJECT TO STAFF.
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HENSON? YES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH LOT OF WORK THERE. THANK YOU. SO MUCH FOR THESE THOUGHTFUL COMMENTS AND YOUR REVIEW TONIGHT, I THINK THESE COMMENTS WILL ONLY MAKE IT BETTER AND BRINGING BACK THE LIGHTING AND THE LANDSCAPING ALSO WILL KIND OF BRING A FULLER PICTURE OF THE ENTIRE PROJECT. TO YOU ON IN THE LIGHTING, I WILL SAY IS PARTICULAR INTERESTS OF THIS DESIGN TEAM, SO I'M SURE WE'RE GOING TO. UM UM GET THAT RIGHT AND TRY TO MAKE SURE AND MAKE SURE WE DON'T HAVE THIS BRIGHTLY LIT CENTERPIECE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE VILLAGE CENTER, BUT THANK YOU FOR TONIGHT. UM, AND ALL YOUR COMMENTS. THANK YOU. BUSINESS NO. BUT DO ADJOURN, SUMMONED. WE'RE SECOND WHATEVER YOU LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN SECOND. MR HENSON? YES YES OR YES, MR ITEMS. YES, MR BROWN. YES. THANK YOU, EVERYBODY* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.