I THINK SO. THANKS FOR BEING HERE. UM LIKE TO CALL TO ORDER THE JANUARY 11TH 2023 MEETING OF
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THE NEW ALBANY SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD MEETING AT 6 31. CAN STAFF PLEASE READ, ROLL CALL ? SURE AND JUST AS A REMINDER, PLEASE BE SURE TO HAVE YOUR MICROPHONES ON FOR THE DURATION OF THE MEETING. THANK YOU. MR PHILIA TROUT HERE. MISS DUFFY HERE. MR HAROLD HERE. MR CONWAY HERE. MISS GALLO HERE, MR BARNES. MR KISSED. HERE MM. I'M SORRY. I AM SITTING IN FOR CASE MR TONIGHT, MR FELLOWS. YES, THANK YOU. AND MISS MCGRAW. AND MR SCHUMACHER IS ABSENT. GREAT[III. Action of Minutes: December 14, 2022]
THANK YOU. UM FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE ACTION ACTION MINUTES FOR THE DECEMBER 14TH 2022 SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD MEETING. BOARD MEMBERS HAVE CORRECTIONS TO LAST MONTH'S MINUTES. DIDN'T LOOK SO I CAN HAVE A MOTION TO PROVE DECEMBER AS MANY MINUTES. SO MUCH.ALRIGHT ENTHUSIASTICALLY. CHARLESTON DOES THAT DOES ANYBODY HAVE EXTRA MINUTES? I'VE GOT TO THESE. HERE. TAKE THIS. DO YOU NEED THIS FOR YOU GET THIS GOOD. THANK YOU. SECOND. IS THAT WHAT WE'RE WAITING FOR? SECOND CRAZY? SO MOVED BY BARNES AND SECOND FIVE DUFFY. OKAY? MR PHIL INTRO. YES. MISS DUFFY. YES, MR HAROLD? YES, MR CONWAY. GALLO YES, MR BARNES, MR FELLOWS, MCGRAW. YES. GREAT. UM ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS TO THE AGENDA FROM STAFF? THERE IS NOT ANY. ARE THERE ANY VISITORS WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEMS NOT ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA. MRS FELLOWES MIGHT NEVER STATEMENT TONIGHT. YEAH. WELL SINCE YOU'RE INVISIBLE, WE SEE NONE. SO LET'S MOVE ON. MOVING ON TO TONIGHT'S ITEMS OF BUSINESS FIRST FOR FIRST ITEM OF
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BUSINESS. WE WILL HAVE STAFF PRESENT ON THE RESEARCH THEY HAVE CONDUCTED ON THE SOLAR BEST PRACTICES. REPORT. YES THANK YOU. SO UM, WE HAVE ANOTHER GUEST TONIGHT FROM THE DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT. IN ADDITION TO CHELSEA AND STEVE MAYOR IS THE PLANNING MANAGER IN THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT, AND HE OVERSEES ALL THE CITY'S PLANNING UP ACTIVITIES ARE KIND OF LAND USE APPLICATIONS, THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS SUCH AS PLANNING COMMISSION FOR HIS OWNING APPEALS. AND ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD, AND SO HE IS GOING TO TAKE YOU THROUGH A PRESENTATION ABOUT A REPORT THAT WE SENT OUT TO YOU IN YOUR PACKET. THIS KIND OF BEST PRACTICES REPORT THAT IS GIVING GOING TO GUIDE THE CITY. UM IN SOME CO CHANGES AND OTHER NEXT STEPS THAT WE NEED TO DO TAKE AS A CITY IN ORDER TO INCORPORATE, UM RENEWABLE ENERGY AND SOLAR PANELS MORE READILY INTO THE CITY, SO UM, THANKS FOR JOINING US, STEVE. YEAH ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. IT'S NICE TO MEET AT MET. I THINK HAPPIER BEFORE THE MEETING, BUT IT'S NICE TO MEET YOU ALL DURING SO YEAH, I'LL GO OVER THIS BEST PRACTICES REPORT, SO THE CITY IS STARTING TO RESEARCH SOLAR PANELS FOR USE IN THE COMMUNITY.AND SO THIS PRESENTATION TONIGHT IS THE FIRST OF SEVERAL BOARDING COMMISSION MEETINGS THAT WE HAVE STAFF ARE PRESENTING TO IN ORDER TO GET FEEDBACK ON THIS PLAN. SO WE'RE TAKING THIS TO YOU GUYS SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD ARE ARCHITECTURE REVIEW BOARD AND PLANNING COMMISSION. SO THIS PLAN THAT YOU GUYS GOT IN YOUR PACKAGE THAT YOU LOOKED THROUGH? SO THIS IS JUST A GUIDING DOCUMENT OF POLICY DOCUMENT, BUT WE WILL USE THIS IN ORDER TO SHAPE THE FUTURE CODE UPDATE. SO THE CITY CODE HAS A PROCEDURE IN PLACE FOR CODE UPDATES THAT GOES BEFORE PLANNING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL TOUCHING THIS, BUT WE WANTED THE WANTED TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE THIS WITH YOU AND OTHER BOARDS. SO YOU GUYS HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE DIRECT IMPACT TO US AS
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STAFF SO AH, THE GOAL OF BEING THAT WE CAN GET DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES OBSERVATIONS FROM MULTIPLE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS IN THE CITY. UM UM PRIOR TO DOING ANY TYPE OF CODE UPDATES.SO. WE HAVE SEVERAL THINGS FOR YOU TONIGHT. IT WILL KIND OF GO INTO THE BACKGROUNDS. HOW WE SORT OF THE BUILDING BLOCKS FOR THIS PLAN, THE LEGISLATION TYPES OF APPLICATIONS AND THAT'S REALLY THE BEST PRACTICES FOR SOLAR APPLICATIONS. SECOND TO LAST BULLET POINT THERE. THAT'S THE RECOMMENDATION SECTION, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HOPING TO GET YOUR FEEDBACK ON TONIGHT. SO YOU GUYS AGREE, DISAGREE. UM YOU KNOW WHAT? THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE HAVE IN THE PLANE TODAY AND LOOKING FORWARD TO GETTING YOUR THOUGHTS? SO JUST TO INTRODUCE THIS FOR YOU TONIGHT, SO THIS ALL REALLY STARTED WITH THE ENGAGED IN ALBANY PLANE. WE STARTED THAT BACK IN 2018. AND THAT'S WHAT'S ON THE RIGHT THERE. SO THE ENGAGED IN ALBANY PLAN HAS SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD BACK THEN, UM AND IT AND SO THE PLANE INCORPORATES SOME OBJECTIVES AND RECOMMENDATIONS THAT INCLUDE SOLAR PANELS. AND SO THIS IS MY OPINION. THIS SOLAR PANEL BEST PRACTICES REPORT IS REALLY BASED ON PROBABLY LETTER G THERE TO PROMOTE THE USE OF SOLAR PANELS AND GEOTHERMAL AND ADJUST CITY REGULATIONS TO APPROPRIATELY PERMIT THEM WITHIN THE COMMUNITY . AND SO THE SORT OF THE QUESTION WE HAD AT THE BEGINNING, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT SOLAR PANEL EXPERTS. IT'S LIKE, HOW CAN WE APPROPRIATELY? YOU KNOW, APPLY SOLAR PANELS THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY, BUT STILL KEEP NEW ALBANY, NEW ALBANY, AS WE KNOW AND LOVE IT TODAY. SO WE HIRED MK SK. THEY ARE OUR LANDSCAPE AND URBAN DESIGN CONSULTING FIRM. WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THEM. I THINK FOR OVER 20 PLUS YEARS NOW IT'S ALL THE GREAT THINGS YOU SEE IN THE CITY. THEY'VE BEEN A PART OF AND SO THEY'RE THE ONES THAT WERE THE PRIMARY RESEARCHERS AND AUTHORS AND WORKED WITH US AS AS THE CITY STAFF TO CREATE THIS REPORT THAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU TONIGHT. AND SO, IN ADDITION TO, YOU KNOW, HAVING RECOMMENDATIONS AND ARE ENGAGED IN OPENING PLAN , THERE'S ALSO BEEN SOME RECENT LEGISLATION THAT'S OCCURRED, UM , THAT ALSO, WE THINK YOU KNOW, IT'S REALLY PUSHES FORWARD TO ACT WITH THIS CODE UPDATES, SO THE FIRST ONE IS JUST THIS INFLATION REDUCTION ACT OF 2022, SO THAT'S MAKING IT CHEAPER. FOR PEOPLE TO INSTALL SOLAR PANELS.
I THINK JUST TECHNOLOGY, RIGHT? THIS IS AN EVER EVOLVING TECHNOLOGY. I THINK IT'S GETTING CHEAPER OVER TIME. EVEN WHAT THIS INFLATION SO WE'RE STARTING TO SEE MORE OF THAT. AND THEN ANOTHER BIG ITEM IS OHIO SENATE BILL 61. SO THAT BILL, UM ESSENTIALLY IS TAKING AWAY COA'S ABILITY TO REGULATE SOLAR PANELS . AND SO JUST IN CASE YOU DIDN'T SEE IT IN THEIR PORTS, SO RIGHT NOW, THE CITY NEW ALBANY HAS ZERO REGULATIONS WHEN IT COMES TO TWO SOLAR PANELS, SO WE HAVE NO CODE REQUIREMENTS WHATSOEVER . AND SO IT'S REALLY A FALLEN ON A TRIO A HISTORICALLY TO REGULATE SOLAR PANELS WHEN THEY'RE WITHIN A SUBDIVISION, SO THAT'S ALWAYS I THINK ACTED AS LIKE A COVER TO ENSURE IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD, LETTING THE NEIGHBORHOOD DECIDE THOSE LIKE SOLAR PANEL REGULATIONS. BUT WITH THAT GOING AWAY, YOU KNOW STAFF FEELS THAT IT'S TIME TO PUT SOME BASE REGULATIONS IN PLACE THAT APPLIES TO THE WHOLE COMMUNITY. STEPHEN, HAVE YOU BEEN IN CONTACT BY H O A PRESIDENT OR BOARD MEMBERS? ASKING WHAT THE CITY'S POSITION IS ON THE SNOW HIGH SIDE BUILT SO I KNOW I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THIS SENATE BILL. PRECISELY UM, BUT I KNOW WE HAVE GOTTEN QUESTIONS FROM PRESIDENTS IN THE PAST, JUST ABOUT WHAT OUR REGULATIONS ARE. AND ONE OF THE THINGS YOU KNOW ONCE WE DO THESE CODE UPDATES OR ONCE I GUESS ONCE WE GET STARTED, YOU KNOW IS ENGAGING WITH THEM, YOU KNOW, TO SHARE SORT OF WHAT THE CODE UPDATES SO THEY KNOW WHAT IT MEANS FOR THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS AS WELL. I CAN SEE LIKE H O. A. I LIVE IN CURRENTLY HAVE VERY HAVE RESTRICTIONS AROUND HOW YOU COULD PLAY SOLAR PANELS ON CARBON HMM. HOUSE YEAH, THERE IS NO GUIDELINES. THEY COULD IMPACT THE NEIGHBORHOODS THE AESTHETICS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. NOT THAT SOLAR IS BAD, BUT GUIDELINES ON HOW THEY SAY IT'S GOING TO BE INSTALLED AND WHERE AND WHAT THE LOOK IS AN AESTHETIC IS TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THEY CAN AFFECT THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD. WITH SOMEBODY JUST HAS FREE WILL WITHOUT SOME TYPE OF GUIDANCE AS TO HOW THIS SHOULD LOOK FIELD BE INSTALLED. BUT THAT'S CORRECT UNDERSTANDING OF THE BILL. I THINK THERE'S STILL SOME LEGAL INTERPRETATION THAT'S BEING DONE. BUT ESSENTIALLY, THAT IS WHAT WOULD HAPPEN. YES THE SENATE BILL 61 HERE, WASN'T IT WHEN YOU'RE SAYING WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS THAT THERE IS NO GUIDELINES OR NO, IT WOULD TAKE AWAY THE ABILITY TO HAVE GUIDELINES FOR CITIES SUPPOSED TO STEP IN AND PROVIDE THAT GUIDANCE. MUNICIPALITY THAT'S OUR INTENT FOR THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE, SO CREATING, UH, CODE
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GUIDELINES OR ACTUAL CODE REGULATIONS AND REQUIREMENTS WERE SOLAR PANELS BACKYARD TODAY. AND I PUT A SOLAR FILL IN MY BACKUP. BASED ON THE STATE. MISTAKE, SO I THINK THERE'S STILL SOME UNCERTAINTY WITH THE APPLICATION OF THE STATE LAW AND IT SAYS THAT THEY ARE PERMISSIBLE UNLESS EXPRESSLY PROHIBITED BY ANY A IS HOW THE STATE WILL SO I THINK IT'S UP TO THE H O S TO DECIDE IF THEY'RE GOING TO EXPRESSLY PROHIBIT THEM OR ARE THEY GOING TO PUT SOME REASON, BUT I THINK IN STATE LAW IS CALLED REASONABLE RESTRICTIONS ON THE USE OF IT, BUT I THINK WITH ANY STATE LAW UNTIL IT IT IS APPLIED AND KIND OF GOES THROUGH A PERIOD OF TIME WHERE YOU KNOW HOW EITHER THE ECOWAS OR MAYBE ULTIMATELY, THE COURT SYSTEM IS GOING TO UM, INTERPRET THE LAW. I THINK IT'S WE FEEL IT'S IN THE CITY'S BEST INTEREST TO HAVE SOME REGULATIONS IN PLACE. MANY RESIDENTS, RESIDENTS WILL BE VERY EAGER, RIGHT FOR GOOD REASON. INSTALL SOLAR PANELS. YEAH IT'S YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT IN LINE WITH THE GUIDANCE THAT WE WOULD PREFER THEY DO THAT. I THINK IT'S BEST THAT WE PUT THAT GUY ITSELF SOONER. RATHER YEAH, SOMETHING THAT WE'VE SEEN INCREASING TREND WITHIN THE COMMUNITY AS WELL. SO STARTING TO SEE MORE PERMITS COME THROUGH OUR DEPARTMENT TO ALLOW FOR SOLAR PANELS. SO WHY WE DON'T HAVE ANY REGULATIONS. YOU STILL HAVE TO PULL AN ELECTRICAL PERMIT RIGHT TO MAKE SURE IT'S WIRED TO YOUR HOUSE PROPERLY. UM SO IF YOU HAD ASKED ME FIVE YEARS AGO, YOU KNOW HOW MANY SOLAR PANELS WERE INSTALLED IN NEW ALBANY, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY VERY ASSUREDLY WHAT I TOLD YOU ZERO AND FELT GOOD ABOUT THAT. BUT YOU KNOW, JUST THIS PAST YEAR. I'M NOT SURE. I THINK IT'S PROBABLY BEEN ABOUT A HANDFUL, SO WE'RE STARTING TO SEE MORE AND MORE IN A GROWING TREND. CAN YOU GO BACK FOR A SECOND? SURE QUESTION. ACTUALLY ABOUT THE INFLATION REDUCTION ACT. MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE LAW IS THAT THE, UM UPPER LIMIT ON THE REBATES. ACTUALLY 60% IT'S THE BASIS 30% WITH INCREMENTAL ADDITIONS OF 10% DEPENDING ON CERTAIN CRITERIA CRITERIA WERE.NOT YET RELEASED AT MY LAST CHECK, WHICH WAS MAYBE LAST WEEK . SO MY QUESTION IS HAVE THE CRITERIA BEEN RELEASED AND THERE WERE LOCATION BASED. SO DO YOU KNOW THAT THIS AREA WILL CAP OUT AT 30% I DON'T KNOW. THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. UM WE COULD. WE COULD DEFINITELY CHECK AND LET YOU KNOW WHAT THE ANSWER TO THAT IS THAT I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY NEW INFORMATION BEING RELEASED. UM BUT I BET ANNA WOULD KNOW IF SHE WAS HERE, BUT WE CAN CHECK IN AND WITH THE CONSULTANTS THAT PUT THE REPORT TOGETHER TO SEE WHAT THEY BASED THAT ON, BRIAN. OKAY, THAT'S TRUE. JANUARY YEAH, THERE'S ADDERS THAT YES, YOU'RE AT THE BASIS 30. FOR ANYONE, AND THEN IT CAN GO ACTUALLY, THE 70.
BASED ON THE NUMBER OF ADDERS AND THE ONE THING THAT YOU ALBANY MOST LIKELY WOULD NOT QUALIFY. AS FOR 20% AFTER WHICH IS BASED ON GEOGRAPHY, SO MORE RURAL COMMUNITIES AND DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES. BE APPLICABLE FOR THAT NOW, THE ONE THING THAT COULD BE ADDED. TO MAKE IT UP TO 40% IS THE DOMESTIC PEACE IF YOU'RE THE SOLAR PANEL INSTALLER. MATERIALS ARE MORE BASED IN WHATEVER THE RESTRICTIONS ARE, WHICH TOWARDS DIVA, SAYING THAT IT'S NOT QUITE FULLY UNDERSTOOD AS TO WHAT THAT IS SOMEWHERE TO THE E V. TAX CREDIT, BUT IT'S SOME OF IT IS MORE DOMESTICALLY MANUFACTURED AND YOU COULD MORE LIKELY GET 40% HMM. SO THE REPORT ITSELF HAS BROKEN INTO SEVERAL DIFFERENT CATEGORIES, AND IT'S CLOSELY MATCHES WHAT OUR CITY CODE REGULATIONS, UM, HAVING PLACE TODAY, SO THE REPORT AND THE REGULATIONS ARE REALLY BROKEN DOWN INTO RESIDENTIAL COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL INSTITUTIONAL, WHICH IS A TERM WE USE IN OTHER PLACES OF OUR CODE, AND THAT REALLY MEANS ANYTHING THAT'S A RELIGIOUS OR SCHOOLS OR PUBLIC AND GOVERNMENTAL BUILDINGS. AND THEN WE HAVE ACCESSORY STRUCTURES AND THEN THE LAST CATEGORY IS WHAT WE'RE CALLING COMMUNITY SOLAR. UM, THAT REALLY MEANS LIKE SOLAR FIELDS, WHETHER BEING PUBLIC OR PRIVATE. SO THE FIRST PART OF THE REPORT AND REALLY THE FIRST QUESTION WE ASKED OURSELVES WHEN WE'RE PUTTING TOGETHER THIS BEST PRACTICES WAS, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE EVER MAKE REGULATIONS FOR A TECHNOLOGY THAT'S EVER EVOLVING ? RIGHT? IT SEEMS LIKE YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALWAYS SOMETHING NEW COMING OUT. AND SO THAT'S WHAT THE SOLAR TRENDS AND EMERGING EMERGING TECHNOLOGY SECTION OF THIS BEST PRACTICE REPORT IS. IS REALLY TALKING TO. SO THESE ARE SEVERAL DIFFERENT CATEGORIES OF SOLAR PANELS THAT WE'VE SORT OF HIGHLIGHTED THAT WE FOUND OUR,
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YOU KNOW, STILL NEW, NOT WIDELY USED FOR THE MOST PART, IN SOME CASES, THEY MAY BE, BUT THESE ARE THINGS WE THOUGHT, YOU KNOW. MAYBE THESE REQUIRES A CODE REQUIREMENTS. MAYBE THEY DON'T BUT SOMETHING WE DEFINITELY WANT TO KEEP ON OUR RADAR AND INCORPORATING THIS BEST PRACTICE PLAN IN CASE WE DECIDE TO AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE. AND SO THOSE ARE I THINK PERSONALLY, THE MOST INTERESTING ONE IS THE BUILDING INTEGRATED, UM PV, THE SOLAR SHINGLES OR OTHER LIFE PRETTY EXCITING AS WELL. SO I THINK THAT DEFINITELY HAS A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY FOR A NEW ALBANY.YOU KNOW, MOVING. SO THESE TRACKING MOUNDS SOLAR ENERGY AT THIS FIRST I'D HEARD OF THE FLOAT OF BULK. AIX CAN'T EVEN REALLY SAY THAT, BUT IT'S AN INTERESTING APPLICATION. FOR YOU KNOW, STORMWATER BASINS THAT EVERY COMMUNITY HAS IN ADDITION TO THE PARKING LOT SOLAR AND THEN USING THEM AS NOISE BARRIERS AS WELL AS REALLY KIND OF MAKING MULTIPURPOSE OUT OF THEM. AND SO ON THE REPORT. I THINK WE HAVE, UH EIGHT OR 10 RECOMMENDATIONS REGARDING THOSE , AND SO I WON'T GO THROUGH THESE SPECIFIC FOR YOU. BUT THESE WE TRY TO PUT ONE RECOMMENDATION IN HERE FOR EACH TYPE OF CATEGORIES. THAT'S ANYTHING FROM ANALYZING TO CONSIDERING CODE UPDATES TO MAKING REQUIREMENTS. AND THEN THIS SLIDE HERE, AND THIS IS PLANNING THE CHART IS SORT OF A SUMMARY OF WHAT THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS ARE FOR THE PLAN FOR EACH OF THOSE CATEGORIES. AND SO IT SHOWS WHERE WE THINK YOU KNOW IT COULD APPLY OR IT COULD BE APPROPRIATE BASED ON THOSE CATEGORIES, SO THE PLAN RECOMMENDS THAT SOLAR MOUNTING TRACKS, FOR EXAMPLE, WOULD NOT BE APPROPRIATE FOR RESIDENTIAL USE. BUT MAYBE APPROPRIATE FOR COMMERCIAL AND INSTITUTIONAL AND YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE'S A LITTLE STAR THAT SAYS CONDITIONAL. USE THEIR, UH SO JUST REAL QUICKLY. OUR CODE IS BROKEN DOWN INTO DIFFERENT USE CATEGORIES, SO IF YOU ARE A PERMITTED USE, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IS A PROPERTY OWNER. YOU'RE ALLOWED TO DO THAT AS A RIGHT SO YOU CAN JUST SUBMIT A PERMIT TO OUR DEPARTMENTS. WILL ISSUE THAT PERMIT, ASSUMING IT MEETS ALL CODE REQUIREMENTS, AND YOU'RE GOOD TO GO TO INSTALL THAT. IF IT'S A CONDITIONAL USE, THAT MEANS YOU NEED TO GO TO A PUBLIC BORDER COMMISSION IN ORDER TO GET ADDITIONAL ENTITLEMENTS OR NUCLEAR, WHICH STATE HAS THE RIGHT TO DO THAT, AND SO CONDITIONAL USES ARE HEARD BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION, SO THEY SEE EVERYTHING FROM MODEL HOMES TO DRIVE THROUGHS, WHICH ARE EXAMPLES OF OTHER CONDITIONAL USES. UM IN THE COMMUNITY, SO IF IT'S NOT CHECKED IN THIS, THEN WE'RE SAYING THAT IT WOULD NOT BE APPROPRIATE. SAY SAY, THAT'S WHAT THE PLAN IS SAYING. BASED ON OUR RESEARCH AND PART OF THIS , I THINK SECTION OF THIS REPORT. WE ASKED THE CONSULTANTS TO EDUCATE OURSELVES LITTLE BIT ON THE EMERGING TECHNOLOGIES THAT ARE OUT THERE THAT WE MAY BE FACED WITH. AND SO IT'S. IT'S ALSO A RESOURCE FOR US TO USE IF SOMEONE CAME IN WITH ONE OF THESE TECHNOLOGIES AND ASKED FOR IT TO BE PERMITTED. IT GIVES US SOME KNOWLEDGE AND BACKGROUND ON WHAT THAT IS, AND THEN TRIES TO PUT IT IN CONTEXT FOR HOW IT MIGHT BE APPLIED HERE IN NEW ALBANY. NOW WITH THE CITY OF THE CITY ADVOCATE OR ENCOURAGE RESIDENTS. TO DO THIS. NOT. TO ADD SOLAR CONSIDER SOLAR AS PART OF THEIR AND THE I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE BENEFITS OF BRINGING IT. THIS REPORT AND THEN ULTIMATELY A CO CHANGE THROUGH MULTIPLE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS BECAUSE YOU KNOW, CONCEIVABLY, PEOPLE ON THIS PANEL MAY FEEL DIFFERENTLY ABOUT, UM THESE STRUCTURES THAN PEOPLE IN OUR ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD OR MAYBE NOT, BUT REALLY, OUR GOAL IS TO GET INPUT FROM ALL OF THESE BOARDS SO WE CAN CRAFT A CODE THAT KIND OF FINDS THAT BALANCE BETWEEN THE TECHNOLOGY THE, UM KIND OF THE USEFULNESS AND THE ENVIRONMENTAL BENEFITS OF DOING THIS, AND THEN ALSO THE AESTHETIC CONSIDERATIONS OF THE COMMUNITY . ALSO ONCE WE COME TO AN AGREEMENT ON THE CODES RIGHT AS TO EVERYBODY AGREES THIS IS WITH OUR CODE SHOULD BE AROUND SOLAR. THAT POINT THAT SUSTAINABILITY BOARD CAN BEGIN TO ADVOCATE AND EDUCATED COMMUNITY IN THE CITY. ON THE APPROPRIATENESS AND HOW TO INSTALL SOLAR THAT WOULD MAKE CODE AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF SOME OF THESE CREDIT TAX CREDITS THAT ARE MAN. I THINK WE'D BE IN A CITY WOULD BE IN A GREAT POSITION AT THAT POINT TO BE ABLE TO PROMOTE THESE CO CHANGE AND THE PEOPLE'S ABILITIES TO APPLY THESE TECHNOLOGIES ON THEIR PROBLEMS. THAT WOULD BE GREAT IF WE CAN AGREE ON THE CODE. AND ONCE WE HAVE THE CODE, AND THAT'S ESTABLISHED, THEN ADVOCATE FORWARD AND ALSO DIRECT RESIDENTS AS TO HOW THEY CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF SOME OF THESE OPPORTUNITIES AROUND TAX CREDITS AND SO FORTH TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN
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. ABSOLUTELY AND I THINK COMING UP WITH THE CODE THAT ADDRESSES THESE ITEMS INSTEAD OF BEING SILENT. IS LIKE WE'RE REMOVING BARRIERS TO KIND OF REGULATORY BARRIERS FOR PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO INSTALL THESE SOLAR PANELS ON THEIR HOMES, BECAUSE NOW IT'S KIND OF WHAT DO I DO IN MY ALLOWED? AM I NOT, BUT YOU KNOW , AND IT'S, UH, IT RESULTS IN MORE OF A PROCESS THAN IF WE HAVE A STREAM LIKE CODE THAT'S REALLY CLEAR ON WHAT IS ALLOWED AND WHAT IS NOT ALLOWED. UM 22 THINGS I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT. ONE IS THE COMMUNITY SOLAR PIECE. WHERE JUST LOOKING AT THE LITTLE BLURB, AND I DIDN'T SEE IT IN THE REPORT. JUST KIND OF GLOSSING OVER SO I COULD BE WRONG IF I DIDN'T SEE YOU, BUT THAT'S NOT ALLOWED UNDER AP TERRITORY. UM FROM ITS JUST AGAINST. YOU COULD DO IT IN A RURAL COOP. BUT THAT'S RIGHT NOW, ALTHOUGH IT BE BENEFICIAL FOR RESIDENTS TO MOVE FORWARD THAT BECAUSE THEY CAN HAVE A SITE OFF ON, SAY, PEACEFUL AND ELSEWHERE THE CITY OWNS. YOU CAN'T UNDER AP REGULATORY RESTRICTIONS. YOU CAN'T DO THAT, SADLY. AND THEN THE OTHER THING THAT I SAW IN THE RECOMMENDATIONS WITH THE SOURCE . SMART PIECE TALKED TO ANNA ABOUT THIS. UM, BUT THAT'S IT. KEY PIECE THAT'S GOING TO I THINK, PROVIDE SOME OF THE STUFF THAT COUNCILMAN WAS TALKING ABOUT REGARDING COMMUNICATION OUTREACH THAT WILL BE HELPFUL. THEY'LL HELP SO SMART WILL HELP WITH THAT, TOO. AND IT'S JUST ANOTHER THING THAT I KNOW WE JUST GOT FINISHED WITH THE SUSTAINABLE 2050 DESIGNATION INTO THAT ONE BUMP US COMMUNITY UP FOR MORE POINTS FOR THAT, SO I DON'T THAT WOULD BE AWFUL. BUT HELP STREAMLINE A LOT OF THE PROCESSES IN THE CODE. GREAT THANK YOU. WE DO SINCE THE CITY DOES EXTEND INTO LICKING COUNTY WE WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT THERE IS A RULE COLLAPSE IN LOOKING COUNTY. UM WE WOULD JUST HAVE TO LOOK AT THOSE AREAS. SO THE RESEARCH BEGAN WITH LOOKING AT OTHER CENTRAL HYO COMMUNITIES FOR BEST PRACTICES AND SEE HOW THEY'RE TREATING THEIR COMMUNITIES FOR RULES AND REGULATIONS. SO WE LOOKED AT, UM , COMMUNITIES SIMILAR TO NEW ALBANY, BOTH WITHIN CENTRAL OHIO , AND SOME LIKE OUTSIDE OF CENTRAL OHIO, THAT WE'VE BEEN SORT OF FAMILIAR WITH AS WELL. AND SO THE PLAN? UM SWEETIE, CATEGORIZES SORT OF MAKE IT EASY TO UNDERSTAND LIKE HOW RESTRICTIVE THEY ARE, AND SO IT'S CATEGORIZED AND LOW, MODERATE OR HIDE. AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO GO BACK INTO THE DOCUMENT ITSELF BECAUSE IT'S A SORT OF AN OVERALL SUMMARY. UM BUT IT IS INTERESTING TO LOOK INTO WHAT OTHER COMMUNITIES DO SO. SO FOR INSTANCE, I GUESS IT'S NOT TOO BIG A SURPRISE AT A PLACE LIKE GERMAN VILLAGE, RIGHT IS VERY RESTRICTIVE, RIGHT? BUT I WOULD SAY, EVEN IN PLACE LIKE BACK TO THE OHIO. MY UNDERSTANDING IS, YOU KNOW THERE'S SOME PLACES WHERE THEY WILL BE MORE RESTRICTIVE AND ANOTHER PLACES WILL BE LESS RESTRICTIVE. RIGHT AND SO IT'S ALWAYS A SPECTRUM. I THINK THAT'S TRUE FOR MOST OF THESE COMMUNITIES, SO THIS IS LIKE AN OVERALL CATEGORY BASED ON THAT HELP. BROAD THAT SPECTRUM IS IF THAT MAKES SENSE. AND SO, UH, THESE SO I GUESS THERE'S A SUMMARY. SO THESE COMMUNITIES THAT REALLY BROKEN DOWN YOU KNOW WHEN WE LOOKED AT THOSE LIKE OVERALL RATINGS AND RESTRICTIONS, WE LOOKED AT WHERE THE OR I GUESS WE LOOK AT THEIR ZONING DISTRICTS AND TO SEE LIKE WHERE DIFFERENT SOLAR PANELS WERE ALLOWED. AND THEN WE ALSO LOOKED AT LIKE LANGUAGE AND CODE REQUIREMENTS AND GUIDING PRINCIPLES FOR AESTHETICS AS WELL. AND SO THIS IS JUST AN EXAMPLE OF THE DIFFERENT ZONING DISTRICTS HOW COMMUNITIES CAN BE BROKEN DOWN INTO DIFFERENT ONES HAVE DIFFERENT REGULATIONS AND HOW THEY CAN DISTINGUISH BETWEEN DIFFERENT BUILDING TYPES SUCH AS FLAT OR PITCHED ROOFS. AND THEN ALSO THE AESTHETICS PART, WHICH INCLUDE ANYTHING FROM SCREENING TO HAVING COLOR LIMITATIONS THAT HOW FAR THESE CAN PROJECT OFF THE TOPS OF BUILDINGS. SO THERE IS A WIDE ARRAY AND NOT EVERY COMMUNITY DID THE SAME. AND SO IT'S INTERESTING TO SEE. UM SOME COME HOW CINEMA COMMUNITIES PRIORITIZE CERTAIN AESTHETICS OVER OTHERS, SO IT'S THERE'S NO RIGHT OR WRONG WAY TO DO IT. IT JUST PROVIDED US SORT OF A MENU TO FAMILIARIZE OURSELVES AND HOPEFULLY EDUCATE OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AS WELL ABOUT, YOU KNOW, SORT OF THE FULL MENU RIGHT OF REGULATIONS THAT WE COULD CHOOSE FROM RIGHT WHEN DOING OUR OWN CODE UPDATE AND REGULATIONS. AESTHETIC SPIRIT, YOU KNOW, SO IT'S IMPORTANT, YOU[00:25:01]
KNOW? WE'RE ALL THE GOOD REASONS TO HAVE SOLAR NO AESTHETICS ISN'T PREMIER AND CONSIDERATION.NO. YOU CAN HAVE A NEIGHBOR THAT GOOD REASON SPRING SOLAR. BUT AS YOU'RE LOOKING OUT THE WINDOW LIKE THAT. THAT'S NOT BEING INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THAT'S ATTRACTING FROM MY PROPERTY VALUE FROM MY VIEW OR WHATEVER IT IS, I THINK AESTHETICS IS VERY IMPORTANT CONSIDERATION, ESPECIALLY IN THE RESIDENTIAL. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. AND THEN I GUESS I WENT OVER A LITTLE BIT WITH THE LAST SLIDE, BUT IT'S ANOTHER INTERESTING THING. THAT REOCCURRING THEME, I GUESS MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE IS ROOF MOUNTED VERSE, GROUND MOUNTED PANEL REGULATIONS, AND SO THIS ALSO HAS A VARIETY OF RULES BASED ON THE ZONING THE TYPE OF USES. UM I GUESS THE AREA AND SORT OF THEIR VISIBILITY AGAIN. THIS I THINK A LOT OF THIS COMES DOWN TO AESTHETICS AT THE END OF THE DAY. UM SO IT CAN BE ANYTHING FROM CIDER REAR TO FRONT. I THINK IT ALL SORT OF AT THE END OF THE DAY. I THINK, UM , HAS TO DO WITH LIKE THE VISIBILITY RIGHTS AND SORT OF THE AESTHETIC IMPACT FROM LOOKING AT THINGS FROM THE PUBLIC ROADWAYS OR STREETS, RIGHT? SO SEEING SOMETHING FROM ONE PERSON'S BACKYARD TO THE OTHER TO YOUR NEIGHBOR'S BACKYARD. IT'S ONE THING SEEING THINGS WHEN YOU'RE TRAVELING THROUGH THE COMMUNITY RIGHT FROM OUR PUBLIC STREETS, YOU KNOW, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE PRIORITIZED IN THE PAST, FROM AN AESTHETIC AND A LANDSCAPING. STANDPOINTS IS SOMETHING THAT WE FOUND THAT COMMUNITIES ALSO REGULATE DIFFERENTLY, UM AND IN THEIR OWN HOMETOWNS. AND SO BASED ON ALL OF THAT RESEARCH THAT APOLOGIZED ONE THROUGH RATHER QUICKLY, BUT IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE LET ME KNOW. UH OUR CONSULTANTS AND THE PLAN CREATED RECOMMENDATIONS FOR EACH OF THOSE USED CATEGORIES, AND SO I WON'T GO THROUGH EACH OF THESE, UM, PIECE BY PIECE. BUT IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE LET ME KNOW. UM BUT, YEAH , SO THIS IS WHAT WE HOPE TO GET YOUR FEEDBACK ON AGAIN. SO THESE RECOMMENDATIONS INCLUDE ENCOURAGING ROUTE INSTALLATIONS AND INCONSPICUOUS LOCATIONS SUCH AS THE BACK OF THE HOUSE. UM, AND THEN ALSO REGULATING THE MANNER OF THE ROOFTOP SOLAR PANELS. SO JUST, UM, YOU KNOW, THINKING ABOUT LIKE THE BACK OF HOUSE, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE DONE FOR OTHER REGULATIONS IN THE CITY IS, YOU KNOW WE HAVE CERTAIN SETBACKS, RIGHT? SO IF YOU'RE PUTTING IN A POOL, POOL, HOUSE OR GAZEBO I'VE ALWAYS BEEN WE ALWAYS REFER TO IT AS THE SANDBOX. RIGHT? SO AS LONG AS YOU'RE A CERTAIN DISTANCE FROM YOUR NEIGHBOR'S PROPERTY LINES, AND YOU'RE IN THE IN THE YEAR IN THE BACKYARD SORT OF A LOT OF PEOPLE TO DO WHATEVER THEY WANT, RIGHT? IT'S LIKE YOU KIND OF FEEL THE SAME. YOU KNOW, YOU CAN PUT REALLY WHATEVER YOU WANT THEIR RIGHT AS AS LONG AS IT'S A CERTAIN HEIGHT, AND IT'S A CERTAIN DISTANCE FROM YOUR NEIGHBORS. BROADLY SPEAKING, AND SO I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT. YOU KNOW, MAYBE THESE GO WITHIN THAT SANDBOX AREA WHERE YOU'RE ALLOWED TO PUT OTHER THINGS SUCH AS ACCESSORY BUILDINGS TODAY IN YOUR BACKYARD. AND THEN, OF COURSE, LIKE AT THE BOTTOM, THERE'S REVIEW BUILDING INTEGRATED SOLAR PRODUCTS SUCH AS BUILDING MATERIALS. WE THINK THERE'S A LOT OF POTENTIAL THERE BUT MAKING SURE THAT'S THE RIGHT. UM PRODUCT AS THEY EXIST TODAY FOR NEW ALBANY AND THEN ANOTHER CONSIDERATION. YOU KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IS, YOU KNOW , HAVING BUILDINGS BE SOLAR READY? SO I THINK THAT CAN MEAN SEVERAL THINGS. YOU KNOW TO ME, I THINK ABOUT HAVING SOUTH FACING ROOFS RIGHTS AND SO MAKING THAT A CONSIDERATION WHEN DESIGNING HOMES BECAUSE CLEARLY DEPENDING ON THE ORIENTATION OF YOUR HOUSE, YOU KNOW, NORTH SOUTH EAST WEST. THERE CERTAINLY CAN BE SOME, YOU KNOW, WINNERS AND LOSERS POTENTIALLY RIGHT DEPENDING ON THE REGULATIONS, AND YOU KNOW THERE ARE PEOPLE LOOK THROUGH THESE, YOU KNOW, THE SOLAR PANEL BEST PRACTICES REPORT TODAY. SO JUST THAT WE'VE FELT WAS ANOTHER CONSIDERATION WHEN MOVING FORWARD BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE WITH HOUSES ORIENTED IN A WAY THAT SOLAR PANELS AREN'T GONNA WORK FOR THEM, AND THEY AND THEY'RE ALL THEY DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER ALTERNATIVE, NOT PUT US. YOU CAN'T DO IT. YES. SO I THINK I'M GETTING A LITTLE BIT OUTSIDE OF MY EXPERTISE HERE, BUT SELF FACING WALLS AND ROOFS GENERALLY ARE SORT OF LIKE THE WHERE YOU WANT TO POINT YOUR SOLAR PANELS AND SO CITIES WILL YOU KNOW CERTAIN CITIES WILL ALLOW YOU TO HAVE SOLAR PANELS AS LONG AS YOU' THE FRONT OF YOUR HOUSE. RIGHT? SO THIS IS JUST AN EXAMPLE THAT WE'VE SEEN A COUPLE OF TIMES SO IF YOU HAVE A SOUTH FACING HOME, RIGHT, SO YOUR FRONT DOOR IS ON THE SOUTH SIDE. THEN SOME CITIES SAY WELL, YOU KNOW, EVEN THOUGH THIS IS YOU KNOW WHERE YOU WOULD WANT TO PUT A SOLAR PANEL FROM A FUNCTIONAL STANDPOINT, FROM AN AESTHETIC STANDPOINT CAN BE THERE. BUT SOMETIMES WE'VE ALSO RUN INTO AREAS WHERE POTENTIALLY COULD WORK RIGHT IF THE HOMELESS DESIGNED CORRECTLY, RIGHT? UM AND I THINK YOU KNOW THAT COULD BE SORT OF LIKE BUMP OUTS. ADDITIONS YOU KNOW, ACCESSORY STRUCTURES WHERE, IF SOMETHING WAS, UM YOU KNOW, DESIGNED APPROPRIATELY THAT IT COULD ACTUALLY, SORT OF, UM, YOU KNOW
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, FACE A CERTAIN WAY AND BE TUCKED BACK. SO IT'S NOT AS PROMINENT AS YOU KNOW, PEOPLE, I THINK SORT OF LIKE THINK IT COULD BE. AND HOW DOES ALL THAT GET DECIDED? I HAVE A NEIGHBOR ACROSS THE STREET TO SOUTH SIDING THAT SURPRISE OF THEIR HOUSE. WE'RE IN THE CITY, ADRIAN, WHOSE DECIDES SO I THINK THAT WE'RE GOING TO ALLOW OR NOT ALLOW. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WANTED TO GET FEEDBACK ON THESE RECOMMENDATIONS. YEAH, I THINK IT'S ALL THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS THAT ARE GOING TO GET THIS REPORT. AND TALKING THROUGH SOME OF THESE CONSIDERATIONS. UM SO WHAT DO WE THINK ABOUT ROOF MOUNTED? IS IT ON FACING ALL DIRECTIONS, OR IS IT NOT? WHAT DO WE THINK ABOUT GROUND MELDED IS A SIDE YARD BACKYARD, IS IT FRONT YARD. I MEAN, I THINK THE GREAT THING ABOUT THIS REPORT IS LIKE FOR ME . IT'S THE CASE STUDIES TO SEE HOW DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES LOOK AND REGULATE. UM MAYBE MAYBE IT'S PREFERRED AND LIKE CERTAIN ORIENTATIONS, BUT THERE'S A PROCESS TO GO THROUGH A BORDER COMMISSION OR THEY ARE B TO GET APPROVAL. UM ON A SOUTH. YOU KNOW A FRONT ELEVATION. SO I THINK ALL THESE THIS FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE ARAB ALL HAVE TO HAVE THESE DISCUSSIONS. I THINK THE SIDE OF THE ROOF THAT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT ONE. WHERE WERE YOU GO WITH THAT? I LIVE IN HAMPSTEAD.I HAVE PANELS IN MY BACKYARD HAPPENS TO FACE SOUTH. BUT YOU KNOW, ROUGHLY HALF OF THE HOUSES. THE BACKYARD IS FACING NORTH, SO THAT ENTIRE HALF OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD BE INELIGIBLE TO GET PANELS. IF YOU HAD THAT, AS A VERY FIRM RESTRICTION. YOU KNOW SOME OF YOUR OTHER SUGGESTIONS AS FAR AS COLOR. AND YOU KNOW SYMMETRY OF THE INSTALLATION, ETCETERA. I THINK IF YOU KNOW, IN MY OPINION, IF YOU WERE WILLING TO ALLOW SOME FOLKS TO PUT THEIR PANELS ON IN FRONT OF THEIR HOUSE IF THAT'S THE SOUTH FACING SIDE. WITH MAYBE SOME FIRMER RESTRICTIONS AS TO AESTHETICS. YOU KNOW, I DO THINK LIKE MY PANELS. THEY'RE ALL BLACK. YOU KNOW, THERE'S SYMMETRICAL THE OF 14 AND TO ME WHEN I LOOK UP IN MY ROOF, WHICH IS VERY DARK. I DON'T THINK IT LOOKS AESTHETICALLY NEGATIVE, BUT, UM , YOU KNOW, I GET IT AND I KNOW THERE'LL BE DIFFERENCES OF OPINION ON THAT. ESPECIALLY PROBLEM WITH ARCHITECTURAL BOARD. BUT I DO THINK THAT'S ONE THAT IF WE CAN LEAVE ANY LEEWAY THERE, SO IT'S NOT LIKE A FIRM.
NO UM, JUST BECAUSE IT IS SO RESTRICTIVE. JUST ELIMINATE SOMEBODY. POTENTIAL SOLAR RESIDENTIAL, SO, YEAH, JUST TO PIGGYBACK OFF THAT IDEA OF EQUITY. WHERE IN THE NEGATING PEOPLE THE RIGHT TO THE DESIRE TO HAVE YEAH, I WOULD TAKE FREE ELECTRICITY BACK TO A CERTAIN POINT WHERE THAT SHOULD BE GIVEN TO EVERYONE'S RIGHT. SO IF IT'S SOUTH FACING AND THAT HAPPENS TO BE THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE, THEN I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF THAT, TOO. I THINK IN HERE SOMEWHERE IT TALKS ABOUT THINK DUBLIN IS GOING THROUGH A SIMILAR PROCESS. AS WE ARE IN TERMS OF TRYING TO RESEARCH AND IMPLEMENT A CODE UPDATE. AND I THINK IT SAYS THAT, UM, THEY WERE DISCUSSING IF YOU USED A LIKE INTEGRATED BUILDING MATERIAL, THEN MAYBE THAT HAS LESS. UM KIND OF SECONDARY REVIEW. THEN ONE NEIGHBOR IS GOING TO SAY YOU'RE IMPACTING MY CURVE APPEAL, BECAUSE, YEAH, BUT IF YEAH, LIKE NO THIS IS GREAT FOR THE ENVIRONMENT, AND IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO IS GET INTO THAT. YEAH, YEAH. SO DEFINE THAT. THAT BALANCE BETWEEN ALL THOSE THOSE COMPETING INTERESTS. I FEEL LIKE THE DIFFERENCE SO THAT THOSE YOU MIGHT BE ESSENTIALLY SAYING WE'RE NOT SAYING NO TO PEOPLE THEIR SELF FACING FRONT. FRONT YARDS ARE WITH SORRY, SOUTH FREEZING. RIGHT ROOTS. UH, BUT WITH INTEGRATED BUILDING MATERIALS AND THINGS LIKE THAT THERE'S A COST AND THAT'S GOING TO BE MUCH HIGHER THAN THAT. PROVIDED BY NATURE. AND SO YOU ALTHOUGH YOU MIGHT BE SAYING RESTRICTIONS. ESSENTIALLY YOU'RE INCREASING THE COST. YEAH THAT'S A GOOD POINT. VERY GOOD POINT. I THINK THE, UM. SIMILAR ON LIKE GROUND MOUNTAIN AS WELL, IF YOU KNOW, ARE THERE LOT SIZE IS OVER A CERTAIN SIZE LOT. YOU KNOW, MAYBE THAT'S FINE. IN ITS BACKYARD. IS IT SIDE YARD? I'D NOTICED. ONE COMMUNITY IN HERE ALLOWS IT. UH I THINK IN THE FRONT YARD AFTER, UM BUT IF IT'S BEHIND THE HOUSE, SO ESSENTIALLY COULD STILL BE SEEN FROM THE
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STREET. SO ALL THOSE CONSIDERATIONS I THINK ARE THE THINGS THAT NEED TO GO INTO THE CODE. NOW WHAT GOES INTO THE CODE IS A RESULT OF THE INPUT WE RECEIVED FROM FROM THIS BOARD AND THE OTHER BOARDS. IF YOU HAVEN'T GROUND MOUNTED, I DON'T THINK THAT'S GONNA BE A SUPER POPULAR RESIDENTIAL CHOICE. IF YOU HAVE A ROOF THAT SEEMS LIKE THE OBVIOUS CHOICE, BUT IT SEEMS REASONABLE TO ME. YOU HAVE SOME SORT OF SCREEN OR SETBACK OR, YOU KNOW PLANTINGS AROUND IT, SO IT'S NOT SUPER OBVIOUS, BUT RATHER THAN ELIMINATE THAT POSSIBILITY, MAYBE THE SIZE YOU'RE GOING TO THE SIZE OF THE PROPERTY. THEN YOU GET INTO EQUITY ISSUE AGAIN, SO BUT YOU KNOW, LIKE IN GRANVILLE. I KNOW THAT DENISON UNIVERSITY THEY PUT IN A BIG SOLAR FEEL TO, UH TO POWER THE UNIVERSITY AND THERE WAS A LOT OF PUSHBACK FROM THE NEIGHBORING LITTLE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT THAT'S RIGHT THERE. AND SO THE COMPROMISE WAS TO DO LIKE PLANTINGS, BASICALLY AROUND IT, SO IT IT'S NOT OBVIOUS AS YOU'RE DRIVING PAST. UM GOOD, MEANINGFUL COMPROMISES SOME SCREENING REQUIREMENTS, AND THAT'S A VERY COMMON PRACTICE FOR EVEN UTILITY SCALE SOLAR, SO EVEN IN VERY RURAL AREAS, THAT WILL BE AN AGREEMENT THAT THE INSTALLERS ABIDE BY THAT THEY HAVE TO PUT EXCEPT BACK OR SOME GREENERY IN FRONT TO KIND OF HIDE IT. SO IT SOUNDS LIKE SCREENING REQUIREMENTS. LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS NEED TO BE A PART OF ANY GROUND MOUNTED REGULATIONS. I MEAN, I ACTUALLY JUST LIKE THE MINUTES TO SHOW THAT I DON'T AGREE WITH THAT, UM, WIDE OPEN WITH SOLAR AND ALL ACCOUNTS. UM, I THINK THAT WE'VE ESTIMATES AND ASSUMPTIONS ABOUT AESTHETICS THAT DON'T FEEL IN LINE WITH WHAT I BELIEVE. PERSONALLY I THINK, UM, SOLAR PANELS ON A ROOF CAN INSPIRE PEOPLE CAN MAKE THEM UNDERSTAND WHAT IT MEANS TO BE, UH, ACTUAL CITIZEN OF THE WORLD THAT THINKS ABOUT OTHER THINGS BEYOND YOU KNOW WHAT THEY'RE SEEING OTHER FRONT WINDOW ALL THE TIME AND SO UM, I ALSO THINK IT HAS A POTENTIAL TO ATTRACT FOLKS TO THE COMMUNITY WHO WANT TO INVEST AND HAVE THE FUNDS TO INVEST IN RENEWABLE ENERGY. AND SO I'M ACTUALLY IN FAVOR OF HAVING OPEN AN OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO PUT SOLAR WHEREVER THEY WANT ON THEIR ROOF AND ON THEIR PROPERTY THAT THEY ALSO WOULDN'T CHANGE THE CODE AT ALL. IF IT WERE ME, SO PLEASE, JUST LET THE MINUTES SHOW THAT ABSOLUTELY INTERESTING POINT BECAUSE I THINK IT'S THE RELATIVE NATURE OF IT IF YOU PUT IN A NEW COMMUNITY, AND THAT'S ALL THERE WAS, IT WOULD ALL BE UNIFORM, SO IT'S REALLY JUST THIS. WHERE IN EUROPE YEAH, AND ONE THING THAT I SAW IN THE THING IS THE GUIDE APPRENTICE PRACTICES WITH INSTITUTIONAL PIECE WHERE IT'S SAYING THAT ADVOCATES FOR VISIBILITY. FOR GOVERNMENT AND SCHOOLS. AND SOME IT'S INTERESTING THAT THAT THAT WOULD BE OKAY FOR PUBLIC INSTITUTIONS TO FORWARD THAT MAKE IT AS VISIBLE AS POSSIBLE.RESIDENTS. IT WOULDN'T BE SO I UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT YAHOO ABOUT RIGHT, YOU HAVE TO FIND THE BALANCE. BECAUSE YOU HAVE PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES. YOU'VE GOT TO FIND THE BALANCE TOWARDS WORKING FOR EVERYBODY. THERE'S ALWAYS COMPLIMENTS. THAT'S WHY THESE DISCUSSIONS. I MEAN, THANK YOU FOR SPARKING UP. ABSOLUTELY. AND I THINK THAT'S THAT'S HOW YOU CAN. FIND OUT WHAT ALL THOSE DIFFERENT THIS TYPE OF DISCUSSION YOU CAN FIND OUT WHAT THOSE POINTS OF VIEW ARE. I MEAN, I LIKE TO JUST TELL A QUICK RELATED ANECDOTE. WHICH IS YOU GUYS KNOW WE TALK ABOUT THE GARDEN THAT WE, MY HUSBAND AND I RUN IT OUT OF OUR CHURCH AND WE PLANTED THE LAND IN FRONT OF OUR CHURCH ON JOHNSTOWN ROAD AND ME. WE GROW THIS FOOD AND WE GIVE IT TO THE NEW ALBANY FOOD PANTRY ALONG WITH FLOWERS, AND WE GIVE THE OVERFLOW TWO GRAND IN THAT'S WHAT WE DO. AND YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY IS NODDING AT ME, RIGHT? SO YOU'RE LIKE, YEAH, THIS IS GREAT. AND THIS IS WONDERFUL WHEN YOU'RE USING YOUR LAND AND YOUR FREE TIME TO FEED PEOPLE WHO ARE HUNGRY AND YES, THAT'S A GOOD USE OF LAND. BUT WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT WILL COME UP TO US AND SAY THINGS LIKE, WELL, I DON'T WANT TO LOOK AT A GARDEN WHEN I PULL INTO MY CHURCH THAT JUST ISN'T WHAT MY EYES WANT TO SEE. AND SO AT SOME POINT YOU HAVE TO SAY WELL, OKAY. I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S ACTUALLY PHYSICALLY HURTING YOUR EYEBALLS TO LOOK AT THAT. BUT WE'RE MAKING DECISIONS THAT BETTER THAN COMMUNITY. THIS IS WHAT WE'RE DOING. THIS IS WHAT WE'RE CHOOSING TO DO, BECAUSE IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO. IT'S PART OF BEING A CITIZEN IN THE WORLD SO I SEE THAT, AS RELATED SENSE THAT OUR ENVIRONMENT IS REALLY, UM KIND OF GOING TO CRAP. IF YOU GUYS YOU KNOW, HAVING BEEN WATCHING THE NEWS, LOTS OF BAD THINGS ARE HAPPENING IN EVERY PERSON HAS A ROLE TO PLAY IN SOLVING THAT PROBLEM. UM MY FEELING IS WE NEED TO BE ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO DO THIS RATHER THAN SETTING UP LIMITATIONS THAT ARE GROUNDED IN SOME SORT OF ALTERNATE REALITY.
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WITH THAT IN THE MINUTES LIMITED EXCELLENT. ANY OTHER. WHAT? YOU KNOW? ANY OTHER FEEDBACK ON THESE RESIDENTIAL RECOMMENDATIONS FOR A MOVE ON THIS HAS ALL BEEN GREAT FEEDBACK. UM I GUESS MORE ABOUT THE PROCESS LIKE WE HEAR A FEEDBACK, SAYS DRAFT OBVIOUSLY.ONE WOULD FINAL BE MADE AS WELL AS THE PROCESS OF KIND OF ALL THE DIFFERENT BOARDS, GIVING THE FINAL STAMP OR RECOMMENDATIONS. TO EVENTUALLY GET TO YEAH, I THINK IT'S A MULTI STEP PROCESS . SO IT'S HAVING THESE DISCUSSIONS AND PRESENTATIONS AT THE OTHER BOARDS. CERTAINLY, UM YOU KNOW THAT'S GOING TO TAKE PROBABLY TAKE US A MONTH OR TWO TO GET THROUGH ALL OF THEM BASED ON THEIR SCHEDULES. CERTAINLY YOU GUYS YOU CAN HAVE INPUT BEYOND TONIGHT. IF YOU YOU KNOW, BASED ON THIS PRESENTATION, YOU GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE REPORT AND START THINKING ABOUT IT.
PLEASE REACH OUT TO ANNA AND LET HER KNOW WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS ARE WILL DO THE SAME WITH ALL THE OTHER BOARDS AND KIND OF COMPILE THAT FEEDBACK. WE CAN BRING THAT BACK TO YOU KIND OF IN A SUMMARY SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT EVERYBODY THOUGHT. AND THEN I GUESS IDEALLY, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IS SOMETHING START TO COALESCE THAT WE CAN SEE LIKE OH, THIS IS KIND OF WHERE WE HIT WITH. ROOF MOUNTED. THIS IS WHERE WHAT PEOPLE THOUGHT ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, GROUND MOUNTED AND COMMERCIAL LAND USES AND THAT SHOULD FORM THE BASIS OF A CODE CHANGE. AND THEN THAT CODE CHANGE WILL HAVE A PUBLIC PROCESS AS WELL. SO IT WILL COME TO YOU GUYS WILL GET, YOU KNOW, RUN THAT BY YOU GUYS. AND THEN THERE IS A KIND OF A ZONING CODE REQUIRED PROCESS TO CHANGE THE ZONING CODE. SO IT THAT CODE AMENDMENT WOULD HAVE TO GO TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THEN ULTIMATELY TO CITY COUNCIL FOR TWO READINGS AND A PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE IT WOULD ACTUALLY BECOME CODIFIED IN OUR ORDINANCES. ADRIENNE WERE YOU SOLICIT FEEDBACK FROM PRESIDENTS BOARD MEMBERS THROUGH THIS PROCESS, OR YEAH, I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S THE RIGHT POINT. THEY'RE GOING TO BE ON THE FRONT LINES OF ANY DECISIONS. AND I THINK IT'D BE REALLY INTERESTING TO KNOW WHAT THEY'RE UH UM. YOU KNOW, PLANNING ON DOING WITHIN THEIR OWN CNRS TO SEE HOW THEY'RE GOING TO DEAL WITH THIS STATE LAW, SO I THINK I AGREE THAT THAT'S AN IMPORTANT STEP.
MAYBE AFTER WE GET THROUGH THIS FIRST ROUND OF FEEDBACK WITH THE BOARDS MIGHT BE A GOOD TIME FOR US TO MEET WITH THEM AND SAY, HEY, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE HEARING. FROM OUR RESIDENTS AND FROM OUR BOARD MEMBERS. WE WANTED TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU. YEAH, I AGREE WITH THAT. I GUESS MY ONE CONCERN AND I KNOW YOU'RE SAYING, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THIS LAW IS SO NEW. THAT IT'S HARD TO REALLY SEE. THE IMPLICATIONS OF ABOUT WHAT HE I DON'T WANT. IT WOULD BE FOR A RESIDENT TO HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS WITH THEIR OWN A AND THEN HAVE THESE RECOMMENDATIONS ON TOP OF THAT.
I MEAN, IF THEY'RE WORKING TOGETHER, AND I THINK THAT MAKES SO, YEAH, THOSE ARE SEPARATE PROCESSES. SO I MEAN, IF YOU, UH, IF YOU BUILD A ACCESSORY STRUCTURE IN YOUR BACKYARD RIGHT NOW YOU'RE GONNA IN YOUR COVERED BY NH AWAY, YOU'LL HAVE TO GO THROUGH WHATEVER THAT PROCESS IS, THEN YOU WOULD STILL HAVE TO COME TO THE CITY AND PULL A BUILDING PERMIT AND, YOU KNOW, MEET WHATEVER THE CITY'S REGULATIONS ARE SO UNFORTUNATELY LEGALLY WE CAN'T INTERTWINE THOSE TWO THINGS. UM, BUT I THINK WE CAN DO MAKE OUR BEST EFFORTS TO SHARE INFORMATION AND TO COORDINATE AND YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY BE AS CONSISTENT AS WE CAN. SO WE DO BECAUSE I THINK THAT IN AND OF ITSELF IS A BIG BARRIER FOR PEOPLE TO TRY TO, UM, PUT SOLAR PANELS ON THEIR PROPERTIES. SO I AGREE THAT WE JUST DO. SOME HAVE SOME LEGAL CONSTRAINTS THAT WE HAVE TO WORK WITHIN SENSE. YEAH LUCKILY, WE STAY, YOU KNOW, AND ACTIVE COMMUNICATION WITH THE OUTSIDE OF THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE OAS. THEY CALL US AND LET US KNOW WHAT THEIR REGULATIONS OR ASK US. WHAT REGULATIONS ARE ADVICE FIRST, AND ANOTHER THING WE DO TO JUST TO MAKE SURE HOMEOWNERS ARE AWARE THAT YOU KNOW THERE'S NATURE REVIEW PLUS THE CITY REVIEWS. WE STAMP ALL OUR PLANS IN SANTA THIS IS CITY APPROVAL ONLY. YOU KNOW, YOU NEED ADDITIONAL APPROVALS FROM YOUR A APPLICABLE PRIOR TO BUILDING SO I THINK WE'VE FOUND OVER THE YEARS. THIS RECIPE OF SUCCESS, BUT CERTAINLY SOLAR PANELS OR SOMETHING NEW WILL HAVE TO COORDINATE WITH THOSE LIKE ADRIAN SAID. FIND THAT RIGHT BALANCE. UM, BUT I THINK WE'VE BEEN PRETTY SUCCESSFUL IN COORDINATING THINGS. HISTORICALLY ONCE WE GET OUR ADVOCATE FOR ONCE WE GET TO A CODE AND UNDERSTANDING AND AGREEMENT OF WHAT WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT THE CITY WILL SUPPORT OR NOT, IS THAT WE THEN BEGIN THE ADVOCACY AND PROMOTION OF NO GIVE ME YOUR WORD. THIS IS OUR
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CODE, AND WE PROMOTE THE USE OF SOLAR PAINTS ON RESIDENTIAL COMMERCIAL. WHATEVER IT IS, AND ALSO HOW WE CAN HELP THOSE INDIVIDUALS, WHETHER IT'S A RESIDENT OR COMMERCIAL BUSINESS OWNER HELP THEM GET TO A DECISION AS TO WHETHER THIS IS HOW THEY CAN ACCESS GRANTS AND FUNDING AND, YEAH, ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO TO HELP WITH. ASSISTING IN DETERMINING WHAT THE WHAT THE PAYOFF WILL BE BASED ON THE INVESTMENT. ALL OF THAT STUFF, RIGHT? YEAH. I THINK THERE'S UM. IN THE END TOWARDS THE END OF THIS ONE OF THE REPORT OUTLINES A NUMBER OF NEXT STEPS FOR THE CITY TO TAKE AND I THINK ONE OF THEM IS TO HAVE A BETTER ONLINE PRESENCE WITHIN THE CITY'S WEBSITE ON HOW MAY BE OFFERING SOME OF THOSE RESOURCES AND INFORMATION TO PEOPLE AND MAYBE CONTACTS FOR THEIR H O A OR CITY CONTACTS TO PROVIDE MORE OF A TWO LOTS TO PEOPLE BECAUSE PART OF OUR BIRTHDAY CELEBRATION COMMITTEE HELP SUPPORT THIS MORE. HOWEVER WE CAN PROMOTE AND SUPPORT THE ONCE WE HAVE COME TO AN AGREEMENT ON YEAH, I REALLY SEE THIS BEST PRACTICES. YOU KNOW, THE FIRST STEP TO CODE UPDATE WITH THIS CODE UPDATE IS REALLY JUST ONE PIECE OF A BROADER SOLAR PANEL INITIATIVE BY THE CITY'S I THINK WE'LL HAVE CONTINUING AN ADDITIONAL INFORMATION LIKE PROGRAMS, UM AND IN THE FUTURE. WE CAN EVEN. MAYBE A LINK TO SOMEBODY'S CALCULATORS, TOO, YOU KNOW. SOMEWHERE OUT THERE WHERE YOU KNOW IF YOU INVEST AS MUCH INTO YOUR SOLAR AND THIS IS WHEN YOU'RE YOUR PAYOFF WILL BE IN TERMS OF YOUR INVESTMENT. YEAH ABSOLUTELY. OR GUIDE PEOPLE TO THOSE RESOURCES CERTAINLY INTO THE RESOURCES SO THEY CAN FIGURE IT OUT. THERE ARE SOME OF THOSE WEBSITES THAT PROVIDE THAT KIND OF PUT IN YOUR ENERGY BILL ELECTRICITY BILL AND HOW MUCH IN AGREEMENT AS A CITY IS WHAT? YOU KNOW WHAT WE CAN DO AND NOT DO IS GIVE ALL THOSE RESOURCES ENCOURAGING, RIGHT? SO I'LL MOVE ON TO THE COMMERCIAL RECOMMENDATIONS. ANYBODY HAS ANY OTHER THOUGHTS OR COMMENTS FOR RESIDENTIAL SO JUST FOR RECOMMENDATIONS FOR COMMERCIAL ACTUALLY SEE A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY HERE FOR SOLAR PANELS. SO THE FIRST ONE IS TO SET SOME GENERAL REGULATIONS FOR THE INSTALLATION ON FLAT ROOFS, STRUCTURES AND YOU KNOW IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN OUT TO OUR INDUSTRIAL PARK OR ANY PART OF OUR BUSINESS PARK ON AND LOOKING COUNTY, YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE'S A LOT OF FLAT ROOFS OUT THERE, RIGHT AND WE HAVE A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, MULTI 100,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDINGS, RIGHT? EVEN YOU KNOW, A MILLION SQUARE FOOT BUILDINGS , AND SO WE THINK THERE'S A LOT OF POTENTIAL THERE TO PUT SOLAR PANELS ON THOSE ROOFS AND IT'S YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT LISTED HERE. BUT CANDIDLY. THAT'S ALSO SOMETHING THAT PERSPECTIVE COMPANIES YOU'RE INTERESTED INTO IS WHAT ARE THE REGULATIONS.IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S WE SEE AS A DRIVER AND SOMETHING THAT'S MORE AND MORE COMPANIES ARE INTERESTED IN. SO I WOULD SAY A LOT OF OUR NEW COMPANIES HAVE ASKED US YOU KNOW IF THEY CAN DO SOLAR PANELS, AND WE'VE DONE SOME CODE UPDATES, UM FOR SPECIFIC AREAS OR TOLD THEM ABOUT THIS, AND SO IT'S SOMETHING. THEY CERTAINLY WANT, AND THAT'S SOMETHING I THINK WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE AS WELL OUT THERE. UM FOR THOSE FLAT ROOF AREAS AND THEN CONSIDERING ALLOWING PITCHED ROOF STRUCTURE , SO THIS IS MORE LIKE IF IT'S VISIBLE FROM THE RIGHT OF WAY.
CONSIDER ALLOWING THAT FROM THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY AND OUR COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL SETTINGS AND THEN UTILIZING A PERMITTING AND REVIEW PROCESS TO DETERMINE THE APPROPRIATE INSTALLATION, SO I THINK THAT WAS SORT OF WHAT SOMEBODY MENTIONED BEFORE, SO IT'S LIKE EXPEDITING THAT REVIEW RIGHT, SO I THINK IT'S ENCOURAGING THEM THROUGH. PROBABLY QUICK.
PERMITTING LIKE SORT OF OUR UNOFFICIAL TITLE. WE SORT OF HAVE JOKED THAT WE ALWAYS SAY IS, YOU KNOW WE MOVE AT THE SPEED OF BUSINESS AND THAT AT THE SPEED OF GOVERNMENT, AND I THINK YOU KNOW, SOLAR PANELS WILL HOLD TRUE FOR THAT AS WELL. AND THEN DEFINING SETBACK AND SCREENING REQUIREMENTS FOR GROUND MOUNTED INSTALLATION. SO AGAIN, YOU KNOW, GROUND MOUNTED . UM YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE'S CERTAINLY COULD BE, UM, APPROPRIATE LOCATIONS FOR THOSE IN THE BUSINESS PARK AND MAYBE SOME WHERE, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY NEED TO HAVE A DEFINED SET BACK AND SCREENING REQUIREMENTS AND MAYBE YOU CAN JUST GO OUT FIRING OUT THERE BY RIGHT SO I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY IN THE IN THE, UH, CERTAINLY IN THE PERSONAL TRAINER, BEAUTY CAMPUS AND OUR INDUSTRIAL PARK TO PUT SOME SOLAR PANELS OUT THERE, AND I WOULDN'T BE SURPRISED IF WE SOLD MORE AND MORE OF THOSE COMING COME ONLINE, SO TO SPEAK IN THE NEAR FUTURE. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THOSE OF QUESTION, ACTUALLY POSSIBLE. UM TO ADD SOME WHAT? WHAT MR
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FELLOWES WAS SAYING ABOUT THE RESIDENTIAL AND BEING MORE PROACTIVE WITH UM WITH RESIDENTS HERE. ABOUT IS I MEAN, UM. ABOUT HELPING THEM UNDERSTAND HOW TO ACTUALLY WALK THROUGH THE PROCESS OF GETTING SOLAR. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO? WITH BUSINESSES AS WELL. BE PROACTIVE, REACH OUT TO THEM AS OPPOSED TO WAITING FOR THEM TO REACH OUT TO US. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. I MEAN, WE HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE TRY TO ATTRACT COMPANIES. WE HAVE MEETINGS THEM AND TALKED ABOUT. AS I MENTIONED. WE ALSO HAVE RETENTION VISITS WITH COMPANIES TO SO COMPANIES WHO ARE HERE. WE TRY TO GO OUT AND MEET WITH THEM AT LEAST ONCE A YEAR. SAY YOU KNOW, HOW ARE THINGS GOING? YOU KNOW, WHAT CAN WE DO FOR YOU AS COMMUNITY AND I THINK SOLAR PANELS CAN CERTAINLY BECOME PART OF THAT CONVERSATION AND IN THE FUTURE. THE OTHER THING IS, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW THAT THE COMMERCIAL SIDE THEY NEED AS MUCH EDUCATION PIECE IN HELL THAT I THINK THEY CAN DO. PROBABLY THE THEIR OWN HOMEWORK ON THAT STUFF, BUT TO ME ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO PROMOTE THEM. IF THEY'RE MAKING THOSE KINDS OF CHOICES, YOU KNOW, IN THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY. UM I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE. BUT SOME SORT OF A YOU KNOW, SUSTAINABILITY AWARD THAT WE WOULD GIVE OUT TO THE COMPANY THAT HAD, YOU KNOW, LIKE MR THUMB BURGERS COMPANY THAT SPOKE IN THE LAST MEETING. A COMPANY THAT'S REALLY GOING OUT OF THEIR WAY TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS. YOU KNOW WHAT CAN BE DONE? NOT NECESSARILY AS A THE CODE OR SOMETHING, BUT TO, UM TO PROMOTE THAT INTO INTO LET THEM USE THAT , AS YOU KNOW, PROMOTING THEIR COMPANY, I THINK IS BENEFICIAL TO EVERYBODY. THAT'S AN EXCELLENT IDEA. MHM ISN'T THERE.THAT'S. ITS SCORING SYSTEM. WHATEVER WE DO HAVE OUR GREEN BUILDING PROGRAM ARE ECHOES PROGRAM THAT ANY, UM, NEW PROJECT THAT GETS REAL PROPERTY TAX ABATEMENT. UM HAS THE ABILITY TO ACTUALLY REQUIRED TO MEET CERTAIN BENCHMARKS. IT'S ROUGHLY BASED ON THE LEAD. GREEN BUILDING STANDARDS. WE JUST CODIFIED IN OUR OWN STANDARDS WITHIN THE NEW ALBANY CODE. YEAH THERE WOULD BE A WAY TO INCENTIVIZE FOR THAT TO THEIR, UM, I CAN PULL THAT OUT. I BELIEVE THERE ARE YOU COULD GET POINTS OF A COMPANY WOULD CHOOSE TO DO SOLAR. WE'VE HAD YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD SEVERAL OF OUR BIGGER PROJECTS HERE. I WOULD SAY WITHIN THE PAST FIVE YEARS, UM, HAVE INTEREST THERE HAS BEEN IN EVERY INSTANCE AT LEAST THAT I'M AWARE OF. THERE'S JUST BEEN SOME STATE BUT OBSTACLES AT THE STATE LEVEL THAT JUST HAVE PREVENTED, UM THEM FROM EXPLORING THEIR OWN OR IMPLEMENTING THEIR OWN SOLAR PROJECTS. UM BUT SO I DO THINK THERE'S INTEREST. I JUST THINK BEYOND THE LOCAL LEVEL, THERE'S BEEN REASONS THAT IT HASN'T HAPPENED YET WITH COMPANIES HERE IN NEW ALBANY. HE PROBABLY THOUGHT INTO USING OUR PROJECT OUT IN THE SERVICE CENTER AS AN EDUCATIONAL SOURCE. FOR BEN FORWARD WITH THIS FOR BOTH RESIDENTS. AND PEOPLE OUT, USING IT AS A WAY TO EDUCATE. INTRODUCED THE COMMUNITY, TOO. HOW SO? ER IS WORKING AT OUR SERVICE CENTER. INVESTMENT LOOKED LIKE PAYOFF IS AND HOW IT'S REDUCING. APARTMENT EMISSIONS AND. YEAH WE HAVE THAT BEAUTIFUL. WE HAVE THAT THERE AND IT'S IT WOULD BE A GOOD SOURCE TO USE AS AN EDUCATIONAL TOOL. YEAH, I THINK ABSOLUTELY. AND, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, INSTALLED WITH THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF DATA THAT BASICALLY DEMONSTRATES. YOU KNOW OUR BUILDING DEMAND AND HOW MUCH OF THAT MAN IS BEING OFFSET BY THE SOLAR BEING HARVESTED? UM. AND YEAH, AND ACTUALLY, WE'RE I JUST WENT THROUGH A PRETTY DETAILED EVALUATION OF THAT, AND WE'RE THOSE ARE ACTUALLY GENERATING ENERGY LEVELS THAT ARE IN THAT ARE EXCEEDING WHAT THE ORIGINAL PROJECTIONS ARE. SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE WE'RE SEEING THAT ABOUT MORE THAN 60% OF THE ENERGY DEMAND ON ANYONE OVER THE PAST YEAR. WAS ACTUALLY, UM GENERATED AND PROVIDED BY OUR SOLAR THAT'S ONE OF OURS, SO IT'S A PRETTY EVEN DO LIKE FIELD TRIPS FOR SCHOOL CLASSES OUT THERE.
THERE'S A LOT OF ABUSE THAT WE CAN BEYOND DEMONSTRATING TO OUR RESIDENTS AND COMMERCIAL BUSINESS OWNERS. HOW THIS IS BECOMING A GREAT BENEFIT. IT'S ALSO FINANCIAL BENEFIT, RIGHT.
IT'S NOT JUST FOR THE ENVIRONMENT FINANCIALLY, IT'S BENEFITING THE RELEVANCE OF THE TAXPAYERS. SO FOR INSTITUTIONAL ALSO FOR RECOMMENDATIONS SO AGAIN, THIS IS LIKE RELIGIOUS FACILITIES, EDUCATIONAL FACILITIES, GOVERNMENT FACILITIES, SO IT'S ENSURE THAT
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SOLAR PANELS ABIDE BY THE SAME REGULATIONS SET OUT FOR OTHER APPLICATIONS. NEW ALBANY SO JUST MAKING SURE THEY'RE STAYING CONSISTENT WITH OTHER REGULATIONS IN THE AREA, SO FOR THE INCIDENTS LIKE THE SCHOOL WITHIN THE VILLAGE CENTER CHURCHES IN THE VILLAGE CENTER.UM AND THEN MAKING INSTITUTIONAL CELESTE ELATION IS VISIBLE TO THE COMMUNITY. I THINK THIS SPEAKS DIRECTLY TO WE WERE JUST SAYING ABOUT LIKE MAKING IT AN EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES SO AND LIKE SEEING IT, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY INSPIRING PEOPLE. THESE ARE AREAS WHERE THE COMMUNITY GATHERS OFTEN IS DATA TO SUPPORT IT RIGHT SO WE CAN SHARE THE DATA. ABSOLUTELY.
YEAH. AND THEN YEAH, USING IT AS AN EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITY. AND THEN ANOTHER THING WE TALKED ABOUT. YEAH, I WAS JUST TRYING TO FURTHER DEFINE WHAT TYPES OF LOCATIONS QUALIFY AS AN INSTITUTIONAL SOLAR SITE, SO I THINK THAT WAS JUST SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DEAL WITH, LIKE IN THE CODE REQUIREMENTS. SORT OF, LIKE DEFINING, YOU KNOW, UM, WHAT THAT MEANS FOR EACH INDIVIDUAL, I GUESS CATEGORY ABUSER, PERHAPS SOMETHING TO EXPLORE. UM SORRY, SIR. KIND OF PIGGYBACK ENOUGH COUNCIL MEMBER THERE, FELLAS REGARDING THE EDUCATIONAL COMPONENT, AND I TALKED TO PETER LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS, TOO. AND EVEN ANNA. AND I'VE MET WITH THE SUPERINTENDENT SUPERINTENDENT SAWYER'S ABOUT IDEA PREVALENT. PUSHING SOLAR ON SCHOOLS AND REALLY USE REALLY UTILIZING. THE CAMPUS AND CHANGING IT FROM JUST BRICK AND MORTAR, TOO. TRYING TO LEARNING LABORATORY, KIND OF LIKE THE ENVIRONMENTAL EDUCATION CENTER IS NOW MAKING THAT VISIBLE.
WHEREVER YOU GO ON NEW ALBANESE. AT SCHOOL GROUNDS AND ALSO MAKE HAVING LITTLE KIOSKS IN ENTRYWAY OR VESTIBULES THAT SHOW REAL TIME ENERGY GENERATION BENEFITS AND ALL THAT. I THINK THAT COULD BE A HUGE PEACE FOR THE COMMUNITY. MOVE FORWARD TO IT. YOU COULD HAVE LIKE A MONITOR THAT SHOWS HOW MUCH IS OFF THE GRID. HOW MUCH IS SOLAR HOW IT SHIFTS DURING THE DAY? HAVE TO BE VERY EDUCATIONAL FOR HEAVEN'S SCHOOLS. YEAH EVEN IF IT WAS TIED INTO OUR BUILDING SERVICE CENTER, RIGHT SOMEHOW WE COULD I DIDN'T LINK THAT UP SO THEY WOULD HAVE A REAL TIME VIEW OF HOW THE ENERGY IS BEING USED WOULD HAVE THAT SCHOOL THAT YOU'VE BEEN SO ON TOP OF THE SCHOOL. YEAH YEAH. OKAY YEAH, OR EXISTING RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO DEMONSTRATE. I THINK ANOTHER THING THAT COULD HELP WITH INSTITUTIONAL PROMOTION. YOU KNOW, LIKE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS, UH SCHOOL GRANTS PROGRAM. YOU KNOW, FOR FUTURE YEARS WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO SET ASIDE? UM SOME PLUNGING FOR SOME SORT OF A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR INSTITUTIONAL CHURCH OR. IT'S COOL THAT WAS INTERESTED IN SOLAR TO KIND OF HELP THEM GET STARTED. MAYBE THINK ABOUT THAT. WE ALSO PROMOTED MORE. YEAH. WE WANT TO TALK TO YOU MORE ABOUT THOSE GRANTS LATER ON TODAY. AND THEN THE NEXT CATEGORY IS THE VILLAGE CENTER. SO THE VILLAGE CENTERS WHERE WE ARE NOW THAT'S DEFINED BY MARKET SQUARE HISTORIC VILLAGE CENTER WERE 2ND AND 3RD STREET ARE SO THIS IS WHERE YOU'RE WEARING LIKE TODAY WE HAVE THE HIGHEST ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS IN THE CITY. RIGHT SO THIS IS WHERE, UM, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET, UM UH, APPROPRIATE AND HISTORIC ARCHITECTURE. YOU KNOW, THAT REALLY DEFINES NEW ALBANY SO LOOKING THROUGH THESE RECOMMENDATIONS ON HIS, YOU KNOW THE FIRST ONES TO HIGHLY ENCOURAGE THE BUILDING INTEGRATED SOLAR. RIGHT SO AGAIN , WE THINK THAT'S WHERE THERE COULD BE. YOU KNOW, IT'S INTEGRATED AS PART OF THE MATERIAL LOOKS LIKE PART OF THE BUILDING. UM AND THEN ALSO GIVE PREFERENCE TO FLAT ROOF INSTALLATIONS OVER PITCHED ROOFS OR THAT YOU KNOW IF IT IS A PITCHED ROOF INSTALLATION THAT WILL BE FULLY CONCEALED FROM THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF LIFE. SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE SEEN AS PART OF THE RESEARCH WHERE THERE HAVE BEEN OTHER HISTORIC CENTERS AND OTHER COMMUNITIES OR GERMAN VILLAGE. WE FOUND THIS TO BE A VERY COMMON REGULATION THROUGH THERE, SO THAT'S WHY THAT'S A REGULATION OR RECOMMENDED REGULATION OR PREFERENCE HERE IN THIS CHART. AND THEN ALSO TO, UH , UTILIZE SIMILAR REGULATIONS FOR PITCHED AND FLAT ROOF INSTALLATIONS AS THOSE OUTLINED IN RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL BEST PRACTICES, AND SO THAT'S JUST SAYING THAT YOU KNOW, WE HAVE LIKE WINDSOR THAT'S IN THE VILLAGE CENTER. WE ALSO HAVE SOME OTHER COMMERCIAL AREAS UP 62 BEFORE YOU GET TO 1 61. AND SO YOU KNOW, MAYBE THAT YOU KNOW, THOSE SHOULD ALSO FOLLOW SOME OF THOSE BEST PRACTICES. UM FOR RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL, MAYBE IN CONJUNCTION WITH, UM OR MAYBE IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN WHAT'S IN THE HEART OF THE VILLAGE CENTER. AND THEN ALSO, AS SOLAR TECHNOLOGY
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EVOLVES, CONTINUING TO MONITOR THESE NEW TECHNOLOGIES AND DECIDE IF THOSE CAN BE INCORPORATED INTO THE VILLAGE CENTER. YOU KNOW WHETHER THROUGH DESIGN OR MATERIALS OR MAYBE SOME OTHER WAY THAT I CAN'T EVEN THINK OF YET, BUT WE CERTAINLY YOU KNOW, IF WE SEE IT'S SORT OF LIKE GOOD DESIGN, YOU KIND OF KNOW IT WHEN YOU SEE IT. IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO BE PRESCRIPTIVE SOMETIMES, BUT WHEN YOU SEE IT, AND YOU KNOW, IT'S RIGHT. UH THEN WE CERTAINLY WANT TO ENCOURAGE. THAT'S FOR THE VILLAGE CENTER. THROUGH ALL THINGS. I THINK THAT'S SORT OF THE HEART OF THAT RECOMMENDATION AS WELL. IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S LITTLE CONFLICTING ON SOME THINGS WERE THERE. RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THE FIRST ONE. SAYS TO NOT YOU ARE SORRY.THE SECOND ONE NOT TO YOU NOT TO HAVE VISIBLE RIGHT? BUT THEN EARLIER ON, IT SAYS THAT IT SHOULD BE MADE VISIBLE ON GOVERNMENT INSTITUTE INSTITUTIONAL BUILDINGS, AND IT NOTES. UPPER ARLINGTON CITY HALLS HAVING THERE'S SOLAR BEING VISIBLE SO CONFUSED BY THAT. 14 MESSAGE. YEAH CODE STATED CATEGORIZED LIKE INSTITUTIONAL BUILDINGS LIKE THIS ONE HERE LIKE OVER ARLINGTON'S AND THE SCHOOLS. WE TREAT THOSE DIFFERENTLY. UM SINCE THEY ARE INSTITUTIONAL BUILDINGS, AND I'M USING THE SAME TERM, BUT WE HAVE DIFFERENT ARCHITECTURAL AND MATERIAL REGULATIONS FROM OUR CITY DESIGN GUIDELINES AND REQUIREMENTS. THAT'S HOW WE GET THE ARCHITECTURE MATERIALS STANDARDS THAT YOU SEE TODAY. SCHOOLS WE AS A COMMUNITY BUILDING RELIGIOUS USES. THEY HAVE DIFFERENT SETS OF STANDARDS . AND SO THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE INSTITUTIONAL USE. WE DO, UM, WE HAVE SEEN LIKE JUST AS YOU MENTIONED. THERE'S LOTS OF EXAMPLES, BUT THAT'S ALSO SOMETHING TO CONSIDER. AND LIKE TO GET YOUR FEEDBACK TO THAT.
MAYBE THOSE CONTINUE TO BE TREATED DIFFERENTLY, RIGHT WHETHER THEY'RE IN THE VILLAGE CENTER OR NOT, IF YOU'RE AN INSTITUTIONAL BUILDING HERE IN INSTITUTIONAL BUILDING. UM SO MAYBE THAT YOU KNOW THE REST OF YOU KNOW, MARKET SQUARE AND HISTORIC VILLAGE CENTER THAT IS NON INSTITUTIONAL BUILDINGS. THOSE HAVE THOSE SAME HIGHER STANDARD RIGHT ARCHITECTURE AND DESIGN AND HAVE TO MEET THESE RECOMMENDATIONS HERE. UM AND THEN THE INSTITUTIONAL BUILDINGS WOULD BE SOMETHING ELSE DOES THAT. ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? THANK YOU GET THE GET THE IDEA, BUT I THINK IT DOES KIND OF GO BACK TO KATHRYN'S POINT, LIKE, ARE WE WANTING SOLAR TO BE, YOU KNOW, I GUESS THE WORDING IN THE SECOND ONE SEEMS A LITTLE STRONG TO ME. THE ROOF INSTALLATIONS TO BE FULLY CONCEALED FROM PUBLIC. RIGHT AWAY. DOES THAT MEAN THAT DOESN'T MEAN FROM PUBLIC VIEWER EXACTLY WHAT THAT MEANS. BUT THAT SEEMS TO FEEL STRONG TO ME IN TERMS OF ARE WE USING SOLAR TO PROMOTE? SOMETHING POSITIVE. YOU KNOW, AND TO MAKE IT AESTHETICALLY PLEASING AND YOU KNOW? WITH BUT TO TRY TO HIDE. IT SEEMS I GUESS LITTLE BIT. I THINK I WAS GONNA SAY THE SAME THING ACTUALLY WOULD FEEL REALLY PROUD TO SEE SOLAR PANELS. I MEAN, THEY'RE NOT TO BE EMBARRASSED ABOUT. WE SHOULD BE PROUD THAT THIS IS A PRIORITY OF OUR CITY. WE SHOULD BE AND THE OTHER THING I'D LIKE TO ADD. THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT BACK UP IS JUST BECAUSE OTHER CITIES ARE DOING SOMETHING DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE HAVE TO DO THE SAME THING. IT DOESN'T MEAN THEY'RE DOING IT RIGHT UNLESS THERE ARE ARLINGTON BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY ARE DOING IT RIGHT. BUT MY POINT IS THAT I GET THAT WE HAVE PURE CITIES THAT HAVE SIMILAR DEMOGRAPHICS. I UNDERSTAND ALL OF THAT. I REALLY JUST WANTED TO MAKE THE POINT THAT THIS MOVEMENT IS SOMETHING TO BE PROUD OF. AND THAT'S SOMETHING TO TELL EVERYBODY THAT WE'RE DOING. IT'S NOT WE DON'T NEED TO BE EMBARRASSED ABOUT OUR SCHOOL, APPARENTLY, SO I HAVE THE SAME STRONG RESPONSE TO NUMBER TWO. I THINK THE FIRST PART OF THAT SENTENCE MAYBE MAKES UP. WE NEED TO BETTER DEFINE OR UNDERSTAND THE INTENT THAT SECOND HALF RIGHT NOW. ANYTHING IN THE VILLAGE CENTER. NEW BUILDING, OR THERE'S A WHOLE CODE SECTION JUST FOR THE VILLAGE CENTER. AND IF YOU'RE DOING WHAT'S CALLED A MAJOR ENVIRONMENTAL CHANGE, WHICH IS NEW CONSTRUCTION, SIGNIFICANT ADDITIONS, YOU HAVE TO GET ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD APPROVAL. UM AND THEN THAT GOES BACK TO OUR D GRS OR DESIGN GUIDELINES AND REQUIREMENTS THAT REQUIRE, UM, A TRADITIONAL AMERICAN ARCHITECTURAL STYLE. SO THAT'S WHY EVERYTHING LOOKS LIKE IT DOES. DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE GEORGIA, AND THERE'S A WHOLE BOOK CALLED THE FIELD GUIDE TO AMERICAN ARCHITECTURAL , UM, STYLES THAT COULD BE IT COULD BE SPANISH REVIVAL. I MEAN, THAT'S A TRADITIONAL AMERICAN ARCHITECTURAL STYLE.
JUST NO ONE HAS BUILT ANYTHING LIKE THAT HERE. BUT MOST OF THOSE TRADITIONAL STYLES DO HAVE PITCHED ROOFS. AND SO I THINK THE FIRST PART OF THAT SENTENCE IS PROBABLY IMPORTANT IN THE VILLAGE CENTER, BECAUSE, LIKE IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, YOU DON'T SEE A LOT OF FLAT ROOFS IN THE
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VILLAGE CENTER AND IN FACT, I THINK IT WAS THE PARKING LOT SIDE OF THE. BUILDING WHERE FOX AND THE SNOW IS. STEPHEN MIGHT TELL ME IF I'M MISREMEMBERING THIS I THINK THE PARKING LOT SIDE WHEN IT WENT THROUGH ARCHITECTURAL VIEW. UM FIRST HAD A FLAT ROOF ON THE BACK AND THE ART A R B, UM, REQUIRED THAT TO BE CHANGED TO BE A PITCHED ROOF TO HAVE CONSISTENT FORESIGHTED REAR STRUCTURE AROUND IT. SO I DO THINK THE FIRST HALF OF THAT SENTENCE JUST GIVING, UM, KIND OF A PREFERENCE TO OR KIND OF OPENING UP OUR D GRS TO FLAT ROOF ARCHITECTURAL STYLES IS PROBABLY HAS SOME WEIGHT IN SOME SIGNIFICANCE TO WHAT HAPPENS WHEN NEW BUILDINGS ARE PROPOSED IN THE VILLAGE CENTER. I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THE SECOND HALF OF THE SENTENCE AND WE GOT TO FIGURE THAT OUT. I THINK I'M JUST A LITTLE BIT CONFUSED THEN BECAUSE WHAT I THINK I HEARD YOU JUST SAY IS THAT THERE ARE NO FLAT ROOFS IN THE VILLAGE CENTER . ESSENTIALLY YEAH, I READ THIS TO MEAN THE WORLD WILL GIVE PREFERENCE TO FLAT ROOF SOLAR INSTALLATIONS AS OPPOSED TO PICTURE WHICH MEANS THERE COULD NEVER BE SOLAR AND VILLAGE CENTER. THAT'S HOW THAT READS TO ME AND MY MISUNDERSTANDING. WELL, I THINK WE'D HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY WITH NEW BUILDINGS TO MAYBE IF THEY WERE BEING PROPOSED AND TALK THROUGH AS THEY GO THROUGH THE BUILDING REVIEW PROCESS TO SAY, HAVE YOU CONSIDERED SOLAR? WHAT YOUR ARCHITECTURAL STYLE? UM WOULD YOU HAVE YOU KNOW IS THERE IS THE BUILDING ORIENTED IN A WAY THAT IT WOULD BE IDEAL FOR SOLAR AND IF THERE I'M SORRY, I'M SO CONFUSED IF THERE ARE NO FLAT FOR US, BUT WE'RE FLAT PRIORITIZING FLAT RIB SOLAR THAN HOW DO YOU EVER GET TO SILVER? WELL THE ENTIRE VILLAGE CENTERS AND BUILD OUT THEY COULD POTENTIALLY FROM NEW BILL FOR NEW BUILDINGS MIGHT BE FLAT.YEAH THANK YOU. YEAH, YOU GOT IT . SLOW TO GET THERE, BUT NO, NOT AT ALL. ABOUT PARKING DECK.
POTENTIALLY YEP. YEP. AND PARKING LOTS. EVEN MAYBE. SO WE'RE FINDING SOLAR FIELD BECAUSE OF THE STANDARDS AROUND OUR ARCHITECTURE. WE FIND A SOLAR SOLID BUILD SOMEWHERE.
HMM. KIND OF SUPPLANTS SUPPLANTS WHAT WE WOULD NORMALLY DO ON THE BUILDINGS HERE. YEAH THAT WOULD BE A GREAT IDEA. AND THEN WE HAD TALKED ABOUT THIS A WHILE BACK REGARDING TV. AND THAT BEING REMEMBER CHARLES BRINGING UP REGARDING BEING PART OF THE CODE FOR COMMERCIAL. SO LIKE SAY LIKE SAYING THE TARGET WAS THERE IN THE TARGET, ONE OF THE BUILD THEIR NEW BUILDING CODE WOULD REQUIRE THAT THEY HAVE 10% OR WHATEVER ALLOTMENT OF THEIR PARKING COULD THAT BE ALSO BE REQUIRED. THAT CERTAIN PERCENTAGE IF NOT. AH, IMPOSSIBLE SORT OF CANOPY IN PARKING LOTS. YEAH I MEAN, CERTAINLY. THAT COULD BE, UH, ZONING CODE REQUIREMENT. WE'RE GOING TO NEW PARKING GARAGE, PERHAPS IN THE NEXT YEAR OR TWO. RIGHT BACK HERE. YEAH. YEAH WE'VE WE'VE THOUGHT THROUGH OR, YOU KNOW, WE JUST GOT ARCHITECTURAL APPROVAL FROM THE AIR B ON MONDAY AND SO NOW WE CAN KIND OF GO TO THE FINAL DESIGN AND ESTIMATING, BUT CERTAINLY THAT'S BEEN PART OF OUR DISCUSSIONS. THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES, RIGHT? AND I THINK THERE'S LOTS OF OPPORTUNITIES. SOLAR YES, FIND WHERE THE BASED ON WHAT OUR STANDARDS ARE. WHERE ARE THOSE OPPORTUNITIES BEST TAKE ADVANTAGE, AND I THINK SO. THE HEIGHT CENTER IS PROBABLY A GOOD UM, SO I WAS THINKING MOSTLY ABOUT NEW BUILDINGS BECAUSE THE VILLAGE CENTER ISN'T COMPLETELY BUILT OUT. THERE'S STILL A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES.
BUT THE HEIGHT CENTER, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT'S 55,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING. IT HAS A PICTURE TRUTH. BUT ON THE INSIDE, IT'S A FLAT ROOF. UM AND SO I THINK THAT GOES TO MR FELLOWS IS THAT COULD BE IDENTIFIED AS AN OPPORTUNITY NOW FEASIBILITY, WHETHER THE STRUCTURE SUPPORTS IT, OR I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE SHADOWS ARE LIKE WITH PITCHED ROOFS ON THE SIDE. BUT IF YOU GO TO GOOGLE AND YOU LOOK AT IT, YOU'LL SEE THIS AND THEN YOU'LL SEE. A BIG AREA OF FLAT ROOFS.
AND SO WELL, UM IT DEPENDS ON THE SIZE OF THE BUILDING. THAT'S A BIGGER FOOTPRINT. SO MAYBE THAT HAS MORE FLAT ROOF WHERE IT MIGHT BE FEASIBLE, WHERE SOME SMALLER BUILDINGS WITH THE PICTURE OF WOULDN'T HAVE THAT, BUT I THINK THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES AND LOTS OF DIFFERENT AREAS, SO WE HAVE REGULATIONS THAT WE CAN APPLY. WHEN NEW BUILDINGS ARE PROPOSED.
WE HAVE REGULATIONS THEN ALSO THAT WILL APPLY IF SOMEONE WANTED TO COME IN AND RETROFIT SOMETHING. AND SO I HAVE TO THINK THROUGH WHAT ALL THOSE SCENARIOS ARE. NO NOT THROW FURTHER WRENCH INTO IT, BUT WOULD IT BE TIED? ECONOMIC FEASIBILITY STUDIES. SO THERE
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WAS A PAYOFF. RIGHT? SO LET'S IT'S RIGHT, INSTALLING SOLAR. THERE'S GOING TO BE AN ECONOMIC BENEFITS AS WELL AS A TO THE ENVIRONMENT. YEAH I THINK THERE'S YOU KNOW, THERE'S THE CITY PLAYERS. LOTS OF HATS. SO ONE OF OUR HATS IS A REGULATORY HATS THAT WE WEAR. AND SO IF YOU WANTED TO BUILD A HOME, YOU'D HAVE TO COME AND GET ZONING APPROVAL, SOMETIMES ARCHITECTURE OF YOU APPROVAL. UM AND THEN ULTIMATELY BUILDING CODE APPROVAL. AND SO WE CAN THINK OF WE HAVE TO. WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING FROM OUR REGULATORY RESPONSIBILITIES TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE ADEQUATE CODES IN PLACE THAT REGULATE THESE AND ALLOW THESE AND PERMIT THESE UNDER CERTAIN CONDITIONS. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT . WHAT ARE THOSE CONDITIONS, THEN? THE CITY ALSO, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE OUR OWN FACILITIES. WE BUILD ROADS. WE SOMETIMES BUILD SOUND BARRIERS ON THE SIDE OF HIGHWAYS. AND SO I THINK THERE'S OTHER OPPORTUNITIES THAT AREN'T NECESSARILY, UM RIGHT NOW. WE'RE FOCUSING ON OUR REGULATORY RESPONSIBILITIES. BUT THERE ARE ALSO DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES THAT THE CITY HAS TO INCORPORATE SOLAR PANELS INTO JUST KIND OF THE FABRIC OF NEW ALBANY. YEAH, I WOULD JUST BE CAREFUL ABOUT BANKING ON LIKE NOISE BARRIERS AND AREAS THAT MIGHT BE FURTHER AWAY FROM USE BECAUSE IT MAY NOT BE ECONOMICALLY FEASIBLE. AND SO I WOULDN'T WANT THAT TO BE. WERE ARRESTED OR HAD ON HOPING THAT THAT COMES TO FRUITION LAND VERY WELL. NOT SO, YEAH, TO ME. I DON'T KNOW WHY I LINK THIS IN MY MIND, BUT UM YEARS AGO BEFORE WE BUILT OUR FIRST ROUND ABOUT STUDIED ROUNDABOUTS AND THE TRAFFIC IMPLICATIONS AROUND ABOUTS, AND THEN WE ADOPTED WHAT'S CALLED A ROUNDABOUT FIRST POLICY, AND THAT MEANS NOT EVERY INTERSECTION IS GOING TO BE AROUND ABOUT. BUT IF THE CITY IS INVESTING, UM CITY DOLLARS IN PUBLIC FUNDS AND ON AN INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENT. WE'RE GOING TO STUDY THE FEASIBILITY OF AROUND ABOUT TO SEE IF THAT IS THE UM, PREFERRED IMPROVEMENT FOR A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT FACTORS, AND I KIND OF EQUATE SOLAR PANELS DID THIS SO MAYBE IT WON'T BE EVERY MAYBE SOUND BARRIERS AREN'T THE ANSWER, BUT I THINK MORE. IT'S MORE OF A MINDSET OF UM, INCLUDING THAT AS A STANDARD FACTOR WHEN THE CITY IS DOING WHAT IT DOES, AND IT'S NORMAL COURSE OF BUSINESS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE CHECKED TO SEE. DOES IT PEN? YOU KNOW? DOES IT MAKE SENSE FINANCIALLY DOESN'T MAKE SENSE FOR THE ENVIRONMENT. THAT'S A PROCESS WE WENT THROUGH FOR THE SERVICE CENTER. ABSOLUTELY VERY INTERESTED IN INSTALLING SOLAR BECAUSE OF THE ECONOMIC BENEFIT.COUNCIL WERE ALSO STEWARDS OF THE RESIDENTIAL TAX DOLLAR. RIGHT. SO IS THERE IS IT ECONOMICALLY FEASIBLE WITH THAT ANALYSIS? WE WERE ABLE TO DETERMINE BASED ON THE LIFETIME OF THE SOLAR PANELS AND THE PAYOFF PERIOD. IN TERMS OF THE ENERGY SAVED THAT IT WAS ECONOMICALLY AND THAT'S WHAT REALLY, YOU KNOW. WHEN YOU TYPE OFF OF THOSE TOGETHER. IT'S A NO BRAINER FOR EVERYBODY ON COUNCIL . LET'S SAY YES, CURIOSITY WHEN THOSE CALCULATIONS BECAUSE ALL YOU'RE SEEING FROM ME TONIGHT THIS NIGHT ENVIRONMENTAL ASIDE, I DO HAVE OTHER SIDES UNDERSTAND ? JUST TELLING THE STORY OF THE FINANCIAL BENEFIT OF MAKING CHANGES TO RENEWABLE ENERGY, DID YOU DID YOU ACCOUNT FOR ANY OF THE COST OF CLIMATE CHANGE? I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT WAS FACTOR AGAIN BECAUSE IT'S TOO ARBITRARY . IT'S DIFFERENT WAYS TO CALCULATE AND DIFFERENT SCHOLARS LAND ON DIFFERENT CALCULATIONS IN DIFFERENT AMOUNT, AND THIS PROCESS. IT WASN'T IT WAS, HERE'S THE COST OF STALL. HERE IS THE YOU KNOW THE AVERAGE LIFE OF THE SOLAR PANELS, AND THIS IS THE TIME PERIOD ON THAT TOPIC. IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'VE GOT GOOD DATA, AND WE'RE TRACKING IT. AND THERE WAS A BUSINESS CASE IF THE EXCEPTION IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE COULD MAKE MORE VISIBLE JUST TO SHARE PAY. THIS IS OUR JOURNEY AND JUST USING THIS SERVICE. STATION AS A EXAMPLE. I THINK YOU LIKE OUR NEWSLETTERS, AND I'M NOT SAYING IT'S LIKE A ONGOING THING. JUST PUT IT OUT THERE THAT STORY. THESE ARE THE FINANCES WILL RECORD THAT. I'M SURE IT'S PROBABLY EVEN DOING BETTER FINANCIALLY BECAUSE OF HORIZON ELECTRICITY BRACING TOO, SO THAT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT COULD FACTOR INTO RESIDENTS. HERBS BUSINESSES THAT ONE BEFORE IT SEEMS. WHAT'S WHERE I WAS GOING THAT JUST THE FINANCIAL BECAUSE IF YOU THINK ABOUT LOOKING AT YOU ALBANY DISTRIBUTION CENTERS THAT HAVE FLAT ROOFS THAT ARE GOING TO BE THE EQUIVALENT 50 YEAR. 100 HOMES. THAT'S YEAH, WELL, THAT HAS A BIGGER IMPACT. I MEAN, THE OTHER STUFF ON THE RESIDENTIAL
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IS IMPORTANT, BUT THAT'S THE FIRST TRUE YEAH. FACEBOOK ALREADY DOING A LOT OF SOLAR OUT THERE. THEY MIGHT NOT SO THAT THEY WERE REALLY INTERESTED IN IT, AND THAT WAS WHEN WE WENT PRETTY FAR WITH THEM AND EXPLORING ALL THE OPTIONS, AND THAT WAS THE ONE THAT JUST FROM A BUSINESS CASE STANDPOINT FOR THEM, AND THEN, JUST FROM SOME HURDLES AT THE STATE LEVEL, AT LEAST AT LEAST BACK IN 2018. IT DIDN'T WORK OUT FOR THEM. YOU KNOW, WITH THIS COMMITTEE AND THE CITY NOW COMING WITH NEW STANDARDS. MORE ADVOCACY FORWARD . IT'S THE OPPORTUNITY THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF THESE. NEW COMPANIES. FOCUSED ON TECH, RIGHT? MOST OF THEM ARE VERY ENVIRONMENT ALL THE SENSITIVE IN TERMS OF HOW THEY IMPACT THE ENVIRONMENT WITH THE BUSINESS THAT THEY DO. MIGHT BE A GOOD THE OPPORTUNITY HAS BEEN REPORTED THIS COMMITTEE. UNDER STANDARDS HERE AND ATTENTION TO IT. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. SO MAYBE THE SORRY STEVIE DISCUSSION. NO NO, THIS IS GREAT. I'M JUST HERE. THIS IS WHAT WE'RE HERE. HAVE YOU COMMENTS AND FEEDBACK, BUT I THINK THIS IS THE LAST SLIDE WE HAVE ON THE RECOMMENDATIONS SO THAT COMMUNITIES SOLAR AS DETERMINANT ZONES THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR SOLAR FARMS ZONES BEING OUR ZONING DISTRICTS WITHIN THE CITY , SO RESIDENTIAL COMMERCIAL AND THEN I GUESS WE'LL LOOK INTO THE TERRITORY THING AS WELL. UM AND THEN ALSO ENSURE CUP CODE UPDATES, ALLOW FOR THE OPTION TO PURSUE THOSE COMMUNITY CHOICE AGGREGATION PROGRAMS AND AS WE LEARN MORE ABOUT THOSE THOSE EVOLVED AND EMPEROR ACCESSORY STRUCTURES SET LESS RESTRICTIVE STANDARDS FOR ACCESSORY STRUCTURES ARE FIRST SOLAR PANELS ON ACCESSORY STRUCTURES. SO THEY ARE CURRENT CODE LIKE SETS, YOU KNOW, HAS REQUIREMENTS AND WHERE YOU CAN PUT THESE ACCESSORY STRUCTURES RIGHT WHERE WE THINK THEY'RE APPROPRIATE, SO SORT OF THE THOUGHT AND WHAT WE'VE SEEN FROM OTHER COMMUNITIES AS WELL. YOU KNOW, IF IT HAS TO BE IN THE BACK OF YOUR, YOU KNOW, IT HAS TO BE IN YOUR BACKYARD ALREADY OR ON THE SIDE. AND YOU KNOW, WE SEE THAT AS SORT OF BEING SOME, YOU KNOW, LOW HANGING FRUIT, SO TO SPEAK, RIGHT? WHERE WOULD ALSO BE APPROPRIATE TO PUT UM SOLAR PANEL INSTALLATION ON THERE, SINCE IT'S ALREADY LIKE REGULATED FOR SETBACKS, HEIGHTENED THINGS LIKE THAT. AND THEN, UH, WOW AND THEN APPLY SOLAR PANELS TO ACCESSORY STRUCTURES IN PUBLIC PLACES SUCH AS PARKS, STRUCTURES, PLUS SHELTERS, ETCETERA, SO I THINK THAT WOULD BECOME LIKE, YOU KNOW, WORKING TOWARDS PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS RIGHT AND FINDING OPPORTUNITIES WHERE WE CAN PUT THOSE AND OTHER PLACES THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY. AND THEN, UH, PROVIDE REGULATION EXEMPTIONS FOR SOLAR PANEL INSTALLATIONS UNDER A CERTAIN SIZE, SO THAT'S ANOTHER THING. SO YOU KNOW IF IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY SQUARE FEET I THINK, YOU KNOW, BUT IF IT'S ONLY IF IT'S IF IT'S YOU KNOW, LESS THAN THREE SQUARE FEET OR WHATEVER THAT, YOU KNOW, AS WE DON'T WANT TO REGULATE EVERY SINGLE SOLAR PANEL, RIGHT, THERE'S EVEN A LOT OF LIKE RESIDENTIAL PRODUCTS. YOU CAN JUST BUY AT HOME DEPOT OR LOWE'S. SO THIS IS INTENDED TO REGULATE THOSE, YOU KNOW SO LOT OF COMMUNITIES SAY UNDER A SQUARE FOOT THAN THIS DOESN'T APPLY. AND THEN SO, UH, THIS IS THE NEXT STEPS, UM, THAT THE PLAN THE BEST PRACTICES PLAN RECOMMENDS, UM SO FIRST ONE IS ADOPTING A RESOLUTION FOR THE CITY TO PURSUE SOLAR ENERGY REGULATIONS THAT OUTLINES THE GOALS OF THIS INITIATIVE. THE OTHER ONE IS TO DEVELOP THE DESIGN GUIDELINES AND REQUIREMENTS OF THE GRS. THAT'S WHAT I SPOKE ABOUT EARLIER THAT HAS THE ARCHITECTURAL AND MATERIALLY REQUIREMENTS, SO MAYBE BUILDING OFF OF THAT AND INCORPORATING THESE, UM SOLAR REGULATIONS WITHIN THOSE D GRS.AND THEN THE OTHER THING IS REALLY FROM THE USERS PERSPECTIVE, SO ADDING SOLAR PANELS AS A PERMITTED ACCESSORY USE IN ALL ZONING DISTRICTS WITHIN THE CONFINES ORDINANCES SO EACH IS ONLY DISTRICT SAYS THE PERMITTED USES, BUT THERE'S JUST NO MENTION AT ALL ABOUT, YOU KNOW IF YOU CAN ACTUALLY USE SOLAR PANEL RIGHT, REGARDLESS OF EVEN WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. SO FIRST THING WE THINK WE SHOULD DO IS MAKE SURE IT'S CLEAR THAT YOU CAN DO THESE AND THEN ALSO ADD ON THESE REGULATIONS THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT. UH AND THEN PROVIDE A CLEAR PERMITTING PROCESS FOR REVIEWING APPLICATIONS AND PERFORMING INSPECTIONS. AS I MENTIONED WE STILL YOU KNOW, PEOPLE COME AND ASK US AND SO WE TELL THEM WELL, IT'S AN ELECTRICAL PERMIT, AND PEOPLE ARE LIKE, WELL, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? RIGHT SO WE KNOW THERE'S YOU KNOW ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT, RIGHT TO MAKE IT CLEAR PROVIDE, LIKE F A Q OR A GUIDE FOR OUR RESIDENTS, AND OUR BUSINESS IS ABOUT LIKE, WHAT IS THE PROCESS FROM THE CITY RIGHT AND HOPEFULLY EXPEDITE THAT FOR THEM? TO ENCOURAGE, UM SOLAR PANEL INSTALLATIONS. AND THEN WE
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TALKED ABOUT THIS NUMBER FIVE ALLOWED TO SAY I KEPT WANTING TO SAY THIS, BUT I COULD REMEMBER WHERE IT LANDED ON HERE IS YOU CREATE A WEBSITE DEDICATED TO SOLAR ENERGY RESOURCES AND TO INCREASE AWARENESS, SO YEAH, WE ALSO THINK THIS IS SOMETHING WE COULD IMPLEMENT QUICKLY. SO YOU KNOW WHETHER IT'S LIKE ENERGY USES ENERGY USED FROM OUR EXISTING, UM. MAINTENANCE FACILITY OR JUST YET, FINDING, LIKE OTHER PROGRAMS AND JUST YOU KNOW, CONNECTING THOSE DOTS FOR RESIDENTS SO THEY CAN FIND LIKE PROGRAMS AND ADDITIONAL RESOURCES. WHETHER IT BE CITY, STATE OR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, AND THEN CONTINUE SETTING A PRECEDENT FOR SOLAR ENERGY SYSTEMS IN NEW ALBANY BY IMPLEMENTING, UM THESE IMPROVEMENTS FOR CITY. I LOVE WHAT WE'VE DONE AT THE SERVICE DEPARTMENTS IS LOOKING FOR OTHER OPPORTUNITIES LIKE THAT, TO ADD IT ON THE CITY FACILITIES AND USE THOSE AS AN EDUCATIONAL COMPONENT AS WELL. AND THEN YEAH , CONSIDER IMPLEMENTING SOLAR PANELS AS PART OF A PARKING LOT DESIGN CODE FOR FUTURE PARKING LOTS. I THINK UM RIGHT. YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT EARLIER, TOO. SO THAT'S SOMETHING ELSE THAT'S ON OUR YOU KNOW WHETHER IT BE COVERED, OR, UM, YOU KNOW, SOMEHOW INTEGRATED INTO PARKING LOTS. YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE TYPICALLY BEHIND BUILDINGS IN NEW ALBANY RIGHTS, AND USUALLY, THE PARKING FIELDS ARE FAIRLY LARGE RIGHT WHEN THEY'RE NOT GARAGES, SO WE CERTAINLY THINK THERE'S OPPORTUNITY THERE AS WELL. TAKE ADVANTAGE OF ALL THAT PAVEMENT. AND PUT SOLAR PANELS IN THOSE AREAS. AND THEN LAST, BUT NOT LEAST, THESE ARE YOU KNOW, ARE NOT LISTED IN ANY PARTICULAR ORDER BY PRIORITY, BUT JUST LISTED OUT IS CONSIDERING OR CONSIDER ENCOURAGING SOLAR PANELS ON VARIOUS ACCESSORY STRUCTURES AND SMALL INSTALLATION. SO AGAIN, WE SEE THAT BEING SORT OF THE LOW HANGING FRUIT. THESE ARE ALREADY THINGS THAT ARE REGULATED AND THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY. THAT WE THINK WE'LL HAVE A LOW IMPACT FROM AESTHETICS AND ALSO BE VERY ADDITIVE FROM A FUNCTIONAL STANDPOINT FOR SOLAR PANELS. UM AND SO, UH, THIS IS AGAIN JUST LIKE THE FIRST STEP, SO WANTED TO SHARE THIS WITH YOU AND GET YOUR FEEDBACK ON THESE NEXT STEPS AS WELL. AND I GUESS I'LL JUST END BY SAYING SO, YOU KNOW, THIS IS GOING TOWARDS A CODE UPDATE, RIGHT? AND SO YOU KNOW, WE AS THE CITY WHERE YOU KNOW WE'RE NOT AFRAID OF DOING CODE UPDATES. YOU KNOW, THIS IS JUST KIND OF OUR FIRST STAB. WE'RE GOING THROUGH ALL OF OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS BECAUSE, OF COURSE, WE WANT IT TO BE UM, AS YOU KNOW, THE BEST WE CAN BE RIGHT. BUT CERTAINLY YOU KNOW, WE ALWAYS YOU KNOW, CAN LEARN AND CERTAINLY TECHNOLOGY EVOLVES . UM, AND AS WE LEARN MORE ABOUT PREFERENCES ABOUT WHAT DOES OR DOESN'T WORK, THERE ARE COMMUNITY AS THINGS EVOLVE. YOU KNOW, WE CAN CERTAINLY DO ADDITIONAL CODE UPDATES. SO YOU KNOW WHETHER YOU'RE LOOKING AT THIS OR, YOU KNOW, SEEING A CODE OF DATE IN THE FUTURE. I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE END OF THE ALL. CERTAINLY WE'RE CONTINUING CODE UPDATES NOT ONLY FOR SOLAR PANELS, BUT MANY OTHER THINGS CONSTANTLY, UM THROUGHOUT THE CITY, AND I THINK I ALWAYS YOU KNOW, HAVE VIEWED THIS BOARD AS A GREAT RESOURCE. IF YOU KNOW IF ANY OF YOU SEE LIKE A NEW TECHNOLOGY OR SEE AN INTERESTING REGULATION, I'M SURE YOU'RE READING. YOU KNOW, CITY CODE REGULATIONS LIKE I AM. UM YOU KNOW, JUST, YOU KNOW, LET US KNOW ALL JOKING ASIDE, WE YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU DON'T KNOW. AND I THINK THERE'S LOTS OF GOOD IDEAS OUT THERE.AND WE WOULD YOU KNOW, ONCE WE FIND THOSE THOSE ARE ALSO OR SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD DEFINITELY LIKE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF AND SEE HOW THAT COULD BE INCORPORATED INTO OUR COMMUNITY AS WELL. SO IF YOU SEE ANY EITHER, LIKE COOL DESIGNS OR MATERIALS TO LET US KNOW WE WOULD LOVE TO LEARN AND, UM ABOUT THOSE ITEMS. SO IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY LAST QUESTIONS OR FINAL THOUGHTS WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO TAKE THAT. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS CHANGES JUST BE ON NEW INSTALLATIONS GOING FORWARD, OR IS THERE SOME SORT OF RETROACTIVE? LOOK AT EXISTING INSTALLATIONS THAT WOULD HAVE TO COME UP TO CODE. THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. SO FOR EXAMPLE, RIGHT, MAYBE SAY THAT FOR THE BILLION ON MARKET STREET AND WE PUT SOLAR PANELS ON THOSE BUILDINGS . IS THAT WHERE YOU'RE MY QUESTION MORE IS LIKE IF PETE HAD PANELS ON THE FRONT OF HIS HOUSE, WOULD HE HAVE TO DO NOW KNOW SO TYPICALLY, WHAT HAPPENS WHEN CODE CHANGES? UM ANYTHING THAT'S PRE EXISTING IS CALLED JUST A NONCONFORMING USE OR STRUCTURE AND SO CODE CHANGES. UM JUST ARE FROM THAT POINT IN TIME FORWARD, THERE'S NO KIND OF RETROACTIVITY THAT THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE THAT ABILITY TO GO BACK AND SAY. IF YOU PERMITTED IT AND DID EVERYTHING BY CODE AND BY LAW AT THAT TIME, UM THEN THE CITY WOULDN'T GO BACK AND SAY YOU HAVE TO CHANGE SOMETHING. COULDN'T HAVE SAID IT BETTER MYSELF. I LOVE THE IDEA OF A WEBSITE. EDUCATE FOLKS. I THINK I THINK THIS GROUP WOULD LOVE TO HELP WITH THAT IF WE CAN. AND I THINK THIS WHOLE PROCESS IS REALLY IMPORTANT THAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING IT. I DO THINK OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF US ARE PRO SOLAR. AS YOU WOULD EXPECT. UM MY GUESS IS THAT PEOPLE IN NEW ALBANY ARE MORE PRO SOLAR THAN WE THINK THEY ARE. I THINK I DO THINK
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OPINIONS ARE CHANGING. AND I DO THINK THAT IT'S LESS. I THINK PANELS LOOK BETTER. FOR ONE THING, THE GRIDS AND THEY DON'T LOOK AS VISUALLY. DISTRACTING AS THEY USED TO, BUT I GUESS MY POINT IS, I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW WHAT PEOPLE REALLY THINK. AND I DON'T KNOW HOW HOW YOU WOULD DO THAT. BUT IS THERE SOME WAY WE COULD HAVE JUST A VERY BRIEF. VERY FOCUSED. SURVEY HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT SOLAR PANELS ON MARKET STREET? HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT SOLAR PANELS ON THE FRONT LAWNS OF PEOPLE'S HOMES? YOU KNOW, VERY 345 QUESTS. VERY SIMPLE QUESTIONS. I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW WHERE PEOPLE ARE ON THAT BEFORE THIS BECOMES CODE, I GUESS, UM JUST SO THAT WE'RE NOT MAKING IT MORE RESTRICTIVE THAN THE PUBLIC IS ASKING FOR YOU. AND I DO KNOW THAT ADRIAN, AS YOU ALLUDED TO EARLIER CITY, DUBLIN HAS A SERVICE FOR RESIDENTS. OH, IT'S A LONG LIFE, OKAY? YEAH, WELL, WE'LL LOOK INTO THAT POSSIBILITIES. THE TIMELINE FOR THIS FOR CHANGE TO BE IN FACT, YOU KNOW, PART OF IT JUST DEPENDS ON THE LEVEL AND TYPE OF FEEDBACK WE GET. AND SO I THINK I MEAN, PROBABLY THROUGH FEBRUARY WILL BE GOING TO BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS I WOULD SUSPECT IN THEN. COMPILING ALL THAT FEEDBACK WE GET, UM SO PROBABLY LIKE MAYBE APRIL WOULD HAVE A DRAFT OF A CO CHANGE. I DON'T KNOW. STEVE, WHAT DO YOU THINK? YEAH, UM. HOPEFULLY APRIL I WAS GONNA SAY, LIKE SUMMERTIME. HOPEFULLY WE WOULD HAVE LIKE A DRAFT TO SHARE. IT REALLY DEPENDS ON THE FEEDBACK AND SORT OF, UM, THE NUMBER OF LAYERS SO TO SPEAK, THAT WE HOW WE INCORPORATE, MAYBE BETTER NOT SAY LAYERS AND LAYERS OF CODE. I GUESS I'M TRYING TO SAY IS HOW WE INCORPORATED INTO THE CODE. SOMETIMES THAT CAN BE THE MOST COMPLEX PART. IT'S NOT SO MUCH THE REGULATIONS BUT WHERE DO YOU PUT THEM IN THERE? SO BUT, YEAH, I WOULD HOPE CERTAINLY, AND BY LATE SPRING EARLY SUMMER THAT WILL HAVE A DRAFT. CERTAINLY THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE PRIORITIZING. WE'RE GOING TO FINISH UP THE BOARDING COMMISSION BY THE END OF FEBRUARY, AND THEN JUST SORT OF JUMP RIGHT IN, UM INTO CODE WRITING AFTER TAKING A LOOK AT ALL THE FEEDBACK THAT WE GET SOME OF THE TECHNOLOGIES AVAILABLE. YOU COULD PROBABLY TAKE A BOTTLE OF MARKET STREET THE BUILDINGS THAT ARE SOUTH FACING ON MARKET STREET. YEAH.SHOW WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE. IF WE DID HAVE SOLAR PANELS ARE MM HMM. IS THAT SO? TRUE SO THAT WE NOBODY WOULD EVER WANT IT OR, YOU KNOW, ONCE YOU LOOK AT LIKE , IT'S NOT THAT BAD, AND I'M NOT DOWN HERE ON THE STREET, AND I'M NOT LOOKING UP THERE ANYHOW, THOSE KIND OF THINGS THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. THERE'S KIND OF A BECAUSE YOU COULD YOU COULD PLAY SOLAR PANELS ON ANYTHING ANYMORE AND BE ABLE TO SAY, WELL, IS THAT GOING TO, YOU KNOW, REALLY REALLY? WHAT LOOKS SO GOOD OR DISTRACT FROM THE AESTHETICS OF THAT BEAUTIFUL ARCHITECTURE OR IT'S NOT SO BAD, RIGHT? YEAH, I WONDER IF AN INSTALLATION COMPANY WOULD BE ABLE TO DO THAT FOR US COME UP WITH A VISUAL.
I'M THINKING THIS BILLIONS OF MARKET STREET. NOBODY'S REALLY GONNA SEE THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE PRETTY TALL, ANYHOW, YOURSELF FACING BUT MAYBE THEY WILL. I DON'T KNOW. YOU KNOW, I WOULD BE A GOOD EXERCISE. PERSONS OF IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT FITS THERE. AND YOU KNOW, I KNOW THE ENVIRONMENT. THIS IS JUST ME, THE ENVIRONMENTAL YOU KNOW, IT'S SO LET'S FIND ANOTHER PLACE TO PUT RIGHT. YEAH IT WOULD BE A GOOD EXERCISE TO GO THROUGH TO JUST SEE WHAT THE RESULTS WOULD THROUGH THAT SO SMART IS ADDED. THAT IDEA OF BEING ABLE TO TAKE BUILDINGS THAT A CITY OR SCHOOLS RIVER IS SERIOUSLY ABOUT. FOR A SOLAR PROVIDING VERY CONSERVATIVE ASSUMPTIONS AND GIVING YOU THE GENERAL ECONOMIC OR FINANCIALS ON IT, AS WELL AS A RENDERING OF WOULDN'T LOOK LIKE FROM THE ABUSE AND ALL DONE THROUGH. YEAH TECHNOLOGIES. WE DID THE SERVICE CENTER BUILDING AND WE SAW WHAT THAT WAS GOING TO LOOK LIKE BEFORE. IT WAS RIGHT AERIAL PHOTO, AND THEN THERE WAS. WELL, LIKE I SAID, IF YOU GUYS HAVE ADDITIONAL THOUGHTS AFTER TONIGHT, FEEL FREE TO REACH OUT TO, YOU KNOW, AND MYSELF AND WILL MAKE SURE DEVELOPMENT GETS ALL THE FEEDBACK SO THEY CAN COMPILE IT. AND THANKS FOR YOURNIGHT. THANKT WAS NICE JOB. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT SO LET'S SWITCH GEARS. UM BIRTHDAY IS APRIL 22ND. AND SO LAST YEAR WE HAD OUR TARGET OUR FIRST EARTH DAY EVENT WITH OUR E WASTE DRIVE AND OUR BIO BLITZ. I THINK IN, SO WE PUT MONEY TO DO EXPLAINED THAT IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET AND THERE'S TWO THINGS THAT I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT.
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ONE IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE TIME IF TO KIND OF PLAN THESE THINGS AND WE DID LAST YEAR. UM SO I THINK WE CAN EXPAND AND MAKE MORE OF AN IMPACT. AND THEN SECOND, THE CITY HIRED A COMMUNITY PROGRAMS ADMINISTRATORS. SO SOMEONE WITH EXPERIENCE IN RUNNING THESE TYPES OF EVENTS AND PROGRAMS SHE RUNS OUR SENIOR CONNECTION SENIOR PROGRAM. BUT HER NAME IS ABBY BROOKS. AND SO SHE PUT TOGETHER THIS MEMO THAT WAS GIVEN OUT TO YOU IN YOUR PACKETS , AND I THINK YOU HAVE A COPY OF IT TONIGHT. SO SHE'S PUT TOGETHER UM KIND OF THIS FRAMEWORK ON WHAT EARTH DATA ARBOR DAY COULD LOOK LIKE IN TERMS OF CITY SPONSORED EVENTS.AH STARTING ON APRIL 22ND AND GOING TO WHICH IS A SATURDAY AND THEN GOING TO FRIDAY, APRIL 28TH . SO THIS IS A THIS IS A FRAMEWORK. BUT IF YOU GUYS LIKE THIS APPROACH, OR WE'D LIKE TO GET ANY INPUT FROM YOU TONIGHT. WE'D LIKE TO GO FORWARD AND START PLANNING SOME OF THESE THINGS OUT AND GIVE US A LITTLE MORE TIME TO, UM, IMPLEMENT THE EVENTS THAN WE THAN WE HAD LAST YEAR. SO WHAT ABBY HAS PUT TOGETHER IS REALLY A FULL WEEK OF ACTIVITIES AND PROGRAMS THAT BEGIN AND END WITH CITY LED EVENTS. UM SO WE WOULD PROBABLY PARTNER WITH ALL OUR COMMUNITY PARTNERS. SO THE NEW ABNEY BRANCH OF THE LIBRARY, HEALTHY NEW ALBANY, THE CHAMBER AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. UM ALL OF THIS IS FLEXIBLE. THIS IS JUST A FRAMEWORK OR PROPOSAL AT THIS POINT, BUT IF YOU GUYS LIKE THIS CONCEPT, THEN WE WOULD START FINALIZING SOME OF THESE DETAILS AND MAKING THE ARRANGEMENTS. SO WHAT WE WOULD DO IS WE WOULD HAVE OUR E WASTE DRIVES. UM ON SATURDAY ON EARTH DAY, AND WE WOULD EXPLAIN THAT BASED ON SOME OF THE FEEDBACK WE HEARD FROM FROM THE BOARD AND FROM COUNCIL AFTER LAST YEAR, AND SO INSTEAD OF DOING JUST E WASTE, WE WOULD ALSO DO PAPER SHREDDING AND THEN I KNOW CHIP WILL LOVE THIS ONE IS WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO HAZARDOUS WASTE COLLECTION AS WELL. AND THERE'S A LITTLE BIT TO STILL FIGURE OUT IF WE'RE ABLE TO DO THAT, OR NOT A COMPANY ABOUT THAT COMPANY THAT DOES IT FOR FRANKLIN COUNTY. OKAY FAIRGROUNDS. THEY HAVE THAT SITE FOR A FULL DAY DIDN'T REPORT THIS BACK. BUT THEY SAID FOR A FULL DAY IF YOU WERE DOING LIKE HOUSEHOLD PAINTS, HMM. INSECTICIDES AND HOUSEHOLD HAZARDOUS WASTE. IT'S ABOUT 10,000 BUCKS FOR THEM TO COME OUT HERE. YEAH AND COLLECT ALL THAT AND TAKE IT AWAY AND PROPERLY DISPOSED OF IT. YEAH CONTACT NAME, OKAY. THAT WOULD BE GREAT COMPANY THAT MANAGES THE FRANKLIN COUNTY. THEY DO THEY HAVE THE PERMANENT THING IN WESTERN WESTERVILLE, RIGHT? BUT IF THEY GO TO A LOCAL GO TO MUNICIPALITY JUST FOR ONE DAY EVENT THERE'S A COST ASSOCIATED WITH, RIGHT. YEP IT WAS ABOUT 10,000 BUCKS. OKAY AND WE DID BUDGET AND THE SUSTAINABILITY BUDGET THIS YEAR FOR A COST ASSOCIATED WITH THAT, SO YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY WE CAN FIGURE IT OUT AND ADD ON THE HAZARDOUS WASTE BATTERIES SITTING IN MY HOUSE. I HAVE PAINT CANS. I HAVE AN OLD TRASH. CAN I THROW ALL THAT STUFF IN MY GARAGE IS A TOXIC WASTE, THROW IT BACK IN MY CAR AND TAKE IT DOWN TO THE FAIRGROUNDS RIGHT ABOUT ONCE EVERY SIX MONTHS OR SOMETHING. WELL IF WE CAN FIGURE IT OUT, YOU COULD JUST TAKE IT TO, UM, HERE HERE. YEAH AND ONE THING WE DID WANT TO TALK TO YOU GUYS ABOUT SO IF WE'RE EXPANDING TO HAZARD HAZARDOUS WAYS, WHICH DEFINITELY HAS ITS A SET OF CONSIDERATIONS. THE WAYS THAT WE DID LAST YEAR THAT WE WERE REALLY UNDER PREPARED FOR THE INTEREST THAT WE WOULD HAVE AND THEN PAPER SHREDDING. UM WE WOULD WANT TO MOVE THAT TO OUR SERVICE FACILITY UP IN PEOPLE HEIMER BECAUSE WE JUST MARKET STREET GOT A LITTLE BIT, UM DAISY LAST YEAR, JUST WITH THE E WASTE WE THINK THERE'S MORE OF AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET A BETTER FLOW OF TRAFFIC THROUGH AND HAVE THREE DISTINCT AREAS FOR THESE DROP OFF SITES. WE CAN PROBABLY COME UP WITH A TRAFFIC PATTERN THAT WOULD JUST KIND OF BE A ONE WAY LOOP THROUGH THE SERVICE FACILITY. UM SO WE THINK THAT WOULD BE JUST A MORE EFFICIENT AND BE WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO TRANSPORT ALL THE E WASTE UP TO THE SERVICE DEPARTMENT LIKE WE HAD TO DO. UM LAST YEAR, SO THAT WOULD BE THAT'S ONE PROPOSAL IN HERE THAT WE WOULD DO ALL THOSE DRIVES FROM 9 TO 2 ABOUT THE SERVICE FACILITY. WE WOULD, SINCE WE HAVE MORE TIME AND IF WE DID LAST YEAR, I THINK WE CAN DO A BETTER JOB PROMOTING ALL THESE SO WE CAN GET THE WORD OUT. WE WOULD PROBABLY POST Q R CODES THROUGHOUT THE EVENTS AND DIRECT PARTICIPANTS TO INFORMATION TO ALL THE PROGRAMS TAKING PLACE THROUGHOUT THE WEEK , AND THEN WE'LL USE WE MET WITH OUR COMMUNICATIONS TEAM JUST TO KIND OF GET ON THEIR CALENDAR.
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TO SAY WHEN YOU KNOW THIS IS WHEN THIS WOULD HAPPEN. WE WOULD USE ALL THE CITIES COMMUNICATION CHANNELS TO PROMOTE THIS EVENT AND MAKE SURE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND , UM, THAT THE LOCATION IS UP AT THE SERVICE FACILITY. IF YOU'LL SEND SOMETHING TO ME, I COULD GET IT ON THE SCHOOL. THAT WOULD BE FANTASTIC. UM YEAH, I WOULD EXPECT WE'LL GET A LOT LOT OF INTEREST, ESPECIALLY PERHAPS THE PAPER, ADDING THE PAPER SHREDDING IN THE HAZARDOUS WASTE. SO THAT WOULD KIND OF BE OUR KICKOFF TO EARTH DATA. ARBOR DAY WEEK, AND THEN IN BETWEEN, WE WOULD, UM WE HAVE THIS IDEA.WE'LL SEE IF WE CAN PUT IT INTO APPLICATION IS TO COME UP WITH A PASSPORT. AND SO IF WE'RE IF WE CAN REALLY FIGURE IT OUT, WE WOULD TRY TO GET SOME SORT OF MOBILE OR DIGITAL PASSPORT THAT THEN PEOPLE COULD USE ON THEIR PHONES. IF WE'RE NOT THAT SOPHISTICATED OR SUCCESSFUL AND BEING THAT TECH SAVVY, YOU KNOW, IT MIGHT BE A PAPER PASSPORT THAT PEOPLE STEP OFF. BUT THE IDEA IS. WE COULD OUTLINE WHOLE HOST LIST OF ACTIVITIES THAT PEOPLE COULD DO DURING THAT WEEK TO THEN KIND OF GET A STAMP ON THEIR PASSPORT. SO THESE ARE JUST SOME EXAMPLES, AND WE COULD ADD ANYTHING YOU GUYS MIGHT WANT TO, BUT WALKER BIKE TO SCHOOL OR WORK FOR THAT WEEK. YOU GET A STAMP. UM USE REUSABLE GROCERY BAGS ON THE USUAL REFILLABLE WATER BOTTLE. UM WE WOULD WORK COULD PARTNER WITH THE LIBRARY AND THEY COULD HAVE A DISPLAY ABOUT BOOKS ABOUT NATURE, THE ENVIRONMENT. YOU CHECK ONE OF THOSE OUT THAT WE COULD GET A STAMP AND SO REALLY TRY TO GET INVOLVEMENT AND PARTICIPATION ON PEOPLE'S OWN TERMS. UM AND THEN THAT WOULD KIND OF RESULT IN THIS ABILITY. SOMETHING AT THE END OF THE WEEK TO, UM KIND OF PEOPLE TO COME IN. SHOW US THEIR PASSPORTS AND YOU GET A LITTLE PRIZE. THE PRIZE COULD BE LIKE A LITTLE TREE OR SOMETHING. A PLANT FOR THEM TO PLANT. UM AND I DON'T KNOW IT'S FUNNY. HE, UH THE THIRD BULLET DOWN ON THE SECOND SIDE OF THIS DID TALK ABOUT LIKE MAYBE WE DO SOME SORT OF SUSTAINABILITY AWARD AND ANNOUNCED THAT THAT WINNER DURING THAT WEEK, SO THESE ARE AGAIN JUST IDEAS AND CONCEPTS THAT WE WANTED TO THROW IN FRONT OF YOU, BUT WE THINK WE CAN BUILD OUT THAT WHOLE WEEK WITH SOME JUST REALLY FUN ACTIVITIES THAT GET PEOPLE LIKE TO CHANGE THEIR BEHAVIORS AND MAYBE DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT. FOR A WEEK THAT MAYBE THAT STICKS. WHAT REPORT WITH THEM, UM, THROUGHOUT THE ONE THING THAT I SAW THAT IT WAS INTERESTING HAVING THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE BEING INVOLVED THERE BE A WAY THAT PEOPLE USE REUSABLE BAGS AT THE SHOPS. THERE'S A 10% DISCOUNT FOR LIKE FOR SOMETHING THAT THAT'S GETTING THE COMMERCIALS. YEAH. YEAH. THE HOOK IN THE BUSINESSES AND THE COMMUNITY. YEAH, WE WOULD LOVE TO, PARTNER. UM WITH THE CHAMBER WITH THE LIBRARY WITH HEALTHY, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THEY OFFER HEALTHY NEW ALBANY OFFERS SOME CERTAIN PROGRAMS THAT ARE RELATED TO EARTH DAY DURING THAT WEEK, SO I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES THERE. THAT FIRST BULLET POINT CAN YOU ADD, WALKED BY OR TAKE THE BUS OR WORK? YEAH, USE TRANSIT. IF WE CAN GET MORE KIDS TO TAKE THE BUS TO SCHOOL. YEAH IT WOULD. IT WOULD CREATE A LOT OF TRAFFIC CONGESTION BE BETTER FOR THE ENVIRONMENT. AND YOU KNOW, LIKE , I THINK IT WOULD BE A GOOD MESSAGE FOR THIS SCORES TO CONTINUALLY. YEAH. YEAH. PROMOTE IT'S GOOD FOR THE ENVIRONMENT. IT'S GOOD FOR TRAFFIC INGESTION. THAT OR BY OR WALK JUST ONE SECOND LECTURE, SCHEDULED ALREADY AT THE HEIGHT CENTER, SAID JUST AN IDEA THAT APPLYING WITH SO WE'VE HAD SOME INITIAL CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM. OR WE COULD YOU KNOW IT MAY AND I DON'T THINK IT ENDED UP BEING LIKE THE KIND OF LIKE THE NEW OMNI FOUNDATION LECTURE SERIES, BUT, UH, WE COULD, YOU KNOW, FIND SOME LOCAL AGENCIES THAT MAYBE WANT TO COME OUT AND TALK ABOUT UH, YOU KNOW, MAYBE REPLICATE COMES AND TALKS ABOUT . YOU KNOW, MIKE WAS SAYING THAT WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO UH, GET AN AUDIT WAS THAT ON OUR LIKE ANY WEEKLY PICK UP THAT WE HAVE . WE CAN GET AN AUDIT ON LIKE HOW WE'RE DOING FROM A RECYCLING STANDPOINT AND HOW MUCH ACTUALLY GETS RECYCLED AND DOESN'T SO MAYBE THAT BECOMES A YOU KNOW, A PROGRAM OR A LECTURE FOR THAT DURING THAT WEEK. IDEA YEAH. HOW MUCH ARE WE USABLE SHOPPING BAGS ? COULD WE BUY THOSE THINGS IN BARK AND GIVE THEM OUT AS LIKE A HANDOUT? THE FOLKS ON EARTH DAY WE COULD LOOK INTO WHAT THAT WOULD COST WOULD BE. WE HAVE, UM WE HAVE A LINE ITEM CARD IS A DOLLAR TO BUY ONE OF THEIR BAGS.
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THEY'VE GOT TO BE CHEAPER THAN THAT. YEAH, GIVE THOSE OUT. YEAH, WE DO HAVE A LINE ITEM FOR SOME SORT OF GIVE AWAY SO WE COULD LOOK AT MY RECENT EXPERIENCE. CHINA GOALS BASICALLY SITTING IN MORE PLASTIC BAGS, SO WE WERE KIND OF FORCED TO GET THE REUSABLE BAGS.AND I'M TELLING YOU. WE LOVE THEM. WE LOVE THEM LESS BAGS TO CARRY IN THE HOUSE OR NOT USING PLASTIC AND MORE IN THOSE THINGS , PUT THEM IN YOUR TRUNK IN YOUR FORGET THEM WHEN YOU'RE WALKING INTO THE STORE, I MADE A LOT OF TRIPS BACK TO THE CAR. SECOND SHOOT. I LOVE THAT IDEA TO GIVE AWAY I LOVE THIS WHOLE IDEA OF THE PASSPORT, I THINK IS REALLY CLEVER. AND I DO THINK IT'S A GOOD WAY TO YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE LOOKING JUST FOR WAYS TO REALLY GET INVOLVED. I ASSUME WE COULD DO IT WITH THE KIDS AND FAMILIES . UM YOU KNOW, WE CAN PROMOTE IT AT THE SCHOOLS. I THINK IF YOU BROUGHT IT INTO THE SCHOOLS, I THINK YOU COULD POTENTIALLY YOU NEED A LOT OF PRIZES IF KIDS ARE REALLY GETTING INVOLVED. THING BUT YOU KNOW JUST SOMETHING TO CONSIDER, IF THAT'S HOW MANY IT MAY HAVE TO BE THE FIRST EXPECT TURNING. YEAH YOU COULD HAVE 1000. YOU KNOW KIDS WON PRIZES, BUT, UM, BUT YEAH, SO I THINK IT'S A REALLY GOOD LIST. I THINK, UM ONE THING I WAS GOING TO SAY WAS, YOU KNOW YOU SAY, ORGANIZE THE NEIGHBORHOOD CLEANUP. AH! I DON'T KNOW IF IT'D BE POSSIBLE THAT WE, TOO HAVE A YOU KNOW, CITY LED CLEAN UP LIKE I WAS TALKING TO MOLLY.
IT'S GOT OF HELPING YOU ALBANY ABOUT THAT. SHE WAS SAYING SHE WOULD BE HAPPY TO ORGANIZE ONE.
SO MAYBE WE WOULD TWO OF US COULD ORGANIZE ONE AND ADVERTISED AS PART OF THE GET YOU, YOU KNOW, POINT ON YOUR PASSPORT OR WHATEVER. BUT, UM, YEAH, I THINK THAT COULD BE REALLY COOL. I LOVE THE IDEA OF INVITING PAULINE RUSH ON THE BACK THERE. I THINK THAT'S A GREAT THOUGHT. AND YEAH, I THINK YOU KNOW. THIS IS THIS IS COOL, LIKE NEVER CLEAN UP TO LIKE, UM CREEK OR STREAM. HMM LIVED ON SUGAR RUN FOR YEARS AND MY DAUGHTERS AND I WOULD WALK UP THAT STREAM WHEN THERE WAS THIS TRASH COLLECTED OLD TIRES, AND IT'S ALL GROWN OVER. NOBODY EVER SEES IT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW ALWAYS THINKING THAT SOMEBODY NEEDS TO ORGANIZED DOWN THE STREET AND THIS CRAP OUT OF HERE, TIRES AND CANS OR, YOU KNOW, UM BIG. YEAH, CREATE STREAM STRING CLEANUPS WOULD BE REALLY GOOD. MAYBE WE COULD EVEN REACH OUT TO US AND MAYBE THEY COULD ORGANIZED SOME DURING THAT WEEK COMES AROUND PICKS UP WHATEVER THEY WHAT THEY WRITE. THAT'S A GREAT LIBRARY ON BOARD TO DO LIKE A NATURE DISPLAY. FOR THAT WEEK. ABBY HAS REACHED OUT TO THEM TO PARTNER AND I THINK THAT WILL DEFINITELY PUT UP SOME BOOK DISPLAY. SORRY ONE MORE THING. I LOVE THE IDEA OF AN APP OR SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN DO ONLINE IF IT DOESN'T WORK OUT. FOR THE STUDENTS. THE IPADS, OF COURSE SO EVEN IF YOU JUST HAD A PDF THAT THEY COULD PUT ON THEIR IPAD AND THE NAKED CHECK IT OFF WOULD PROBABLY BE EASIER FOR THEM MAYBE THAN PAPER, BUT RIGHT? THAT'S A GOOD GOOD ALTERNATIVE IF WE CAN'T FIGURE OUT THE MOBILE OKAY, GREAT. SO AND THEN MAYBE JUST SO THE THEN THIS WOULD ALL CAP KIND OF CAP OFF THIS WEEK ON THAT FRIDAY, WHICH IS ARBOR DAY. UM, THERE'S ALWAYS AN ARBOR DAY PROCLAMATION WITH THE CITY AND THEN THE CITY FORESTER IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT STAFF WILL COORDINATE, UM SO STUDENTS TO COME OVER AND DO PLANT SAPLINGS, SO 80 SAPLINGS. IN RUSH PARK. AND THEN THIS ATHLETES ARE BEING PROVIDED BY GREEN COLUMBUS AT NO COST TO THE CITY, SO THAT COULD KIND OF CAP OFF THIS ENTIRE EARTH WEEK. EARTH DATA ARBOR DAY ACTIVITIES THAT WE WOULD BE DOING. UM I THINK ABBY PUT IN SOME. SO THESE ARE JUST KIND OF LIKE THE RESULT OF JUST SOME BRAINSTORMING THAT WE'VE DONE. COMING UP WITH SOME LOGO LIKE THE RECYCLING LOGO TO USE JUST FOR THIS EVENT AND PROMOTE IT. UM, CERTAINLY, COMMUNITY CONNECTS US AS THE CITY'S TAGLINE. SO WE'RE THINKING SUSTAINABILITY CONNECTS US. WE COULD BE COULD BE USED FOR THIS EVENT AND CERTAINLY DOING A HASHTAG FOR SOCIAL MEDIA SO PEOPLE CAN POST AND THEIR OWN PICTURES AND POSTS ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE DOING WITH THESE PASSPORT ACTIVITIES OR IF THEY CAME TO THE E WASTE DRIVE. INVOLVE THE CHAMBER. YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WE WANTED TO THROW OUT TO YOU IS HOW DO WE MEASURE THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT OF THESE PROGRAMS? SO THAT'S WHAT LED US TO IF WE COULD COME UP WITH SOME SORT OF APP OR MOBILE FEATURE THAT A LOT OF THIS WILL BE ON THE HONOR SYSTEM BUT KIND OF TO GET ANALYTICS BEHIND TRACKING PARTICIPATION. AND WHAT DID PEOPLE EVERYONE LIKE. WALK OR TAKE THE BUS TO
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SCHOOL OR WORK, BUT PEOPLE DIDN'T END UP GOING TO A LECTURE AND JUST KIND OF MONITORED THAT WAY. BUT WHATEVER IDEAS YOU GUYS MIGHT HAVE ABOUT TRACKING SUCCESS AND OUTCOMES WERE INTERESTED IN LEARNING MORE ABOUT THAT. UM. AND THEN THIS GREEN COLUMBUS, WE COULD ACTUALLY GET GIVEAWAY SEEDLINGS COMING BAGS FOR EASY STORAGE. SO THERE BE SOME COST TO THAT. SO IF THAT WAS AN INTEREST TO THE BOARD, WE'D HAVE TO PLAY IN AND START GETTING THAT, UM IN PLACE AS WELL. AND THEN I THINK THAT WAS IT FOR THAT. SO IF YOU GUYS LIKE THIS, UM FRAMEWORK. I THINK THEN WE WILL START NAILING DOWN SOME DETAILS. I MEAN, I DON'T EXPECT EVERY BULLET POINT LIST WILL END UP BEING PART OF THE PASSPORT, BUT WE'LL START LIKE REACHING OUT AND REALLY CONFIRMING THINGS WITH PARTNERS AND PUTTING SOME THINGS IN PLACE. WE HAVE SOME IDEAS ABOUT COMPANIES TO APPROACH TO SEE IF THEY MIGHT HELP US WITH AN APP. TO SEE IF WE CAN GET SOME INTEREST IN HELP THERE. I DON'T KNOW. MAYBE SOME OF THE WAS THERE A TECH CLUB AT THE SCHOOL? MAYBE SOME STUDENTS COULD DO THIS, OKAY. WE MAKE GOOGLE FORMS . WHAT'S UP? THE SCHOOL GRANTS WERE IN THE NEXT YEAR. MAYBE IF WE HAVE TIME. I KNOW ABBY'S REALLY WANTS TO KIND OF GET MOVING ON THIS, UM SO IF YOU GUYS DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENT, IF YOU DO WANT TO MAKE A MOTION IF YOU SUPPORT MOVING IN THIS DIRECTION. THEN WE'LL START CONFIRMING SOME OF THESE DETAILS. I MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT THE. THE SAME. THE IDEAS THAT YOU PRESENTED, OKAY? I LOVE THIS IDEA. OH, GREAT. OKAY? PEAK. MR PHILIP TROW? YES. MISS DUFFY? YES, MR HAROLD. MR CONWAY. GALLO YES, MR BARNES. MR FELLOWS. HOW ABOUT I DON'T THINK I VOTE DO I? NO I DON'T KNOW. ACTUALLY, HE'S SORRY ABOUT THAT. THAT'S ALL RIGHT. MISS MCGRAW. I DON'T THINK I DON'T OKAY. YEAH, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. SO THE LAST THIS MIGHT BE A RECORD FOR US OTHER THAN WHEN WE DID OUR COMPLIANCE TRAINING WITH THE LAWYER FOR MEETINGS, SO, CHIP, YOU'VE COME TO THE LONGEST MEETING WE'VE EVER HAD. THAT'S ALRIGHT BOARD MY WIFE AND SHE WENT RUNNING TO THE GROCERY STORE. SO ANOTHER ITEM ON OUR BUDGET THAT COUNCIL APPROVED FOR THIS YEAR WAS THIS KIND OF EDUCATIONAL OR SCHOOL. UH, GRANT PROGRAM, AND WE JUST WANT TO START. THERE'S KIND OF TWO PIECES TO THIS ONE IS A LITTLE MORE IMMEDIATE. SO THIS IF YOU GUYS REMEMBER STARTED WITH THE IDEA OF MAYBE WE PARTNER WITH THE SCHOOLS TO ADD SOME WATER BOTTLE FILLING STATIONS. EXCUSE ME. WE HAD AN INITIAL MEETING WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. AND THEY WERE STILL INTERESTED IN THAT, BUT THEY ALSO SAID HEY, WHAT IF LIKE, LET'S JUST GIVE THIS IDEAS TO STUDENTS AND SEE WHAT IDEAS THEY COME UP WITH. AND THEN MAYBE MAYBE WE COULD, THE CITY COULD GIVE GRANTS OUT TO THEM TO IMPLEMENT THEIR IDEAS. SO BUT WE TRIED TO GET A SECOND MEETING WITH THE SCHOOL BEFORE TONIGHT. AND JUST WITH THE HOLIDAYS THAT DIDN'T WORK OUT. SO WE ARE GETTING A MEETING ON THE BOOKS TO TRY TO FURTHER THIS. THE MORE IMMEDIATE THING IS THE OHIO EPA GRANT. UM IT'S A GRANT TO SCHOOL DISTRICTS TO PUT IN WATER BOTTLE FILLING STATIONS WITHIN SCHOOL DISTRICTS IS DUE EARLY FEBRUARY, SO WE'RE GOING TO MEET WITH THEM TO SEE IF THEY STILL WANT THE IDEA WAS THE CITY'S CITY WOULD SUPPORT IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THEM TO APPLY FOR THAT, GRANT? UM SO WE'RE GOING TO EXPLORE THAT AND SEE IF THAT'S STILL SOMETHING THAT THEY WANT TO DO WITH IN PARTNERSHIP WITH US. AND THEN THE SECOND PIECE OF THIS THAT EXCUSE ME. THIS BOARD NEEDS TO START THINKING ABOUT IS WHAT DO THESE THEN? EDUCATIONAL GRANTS TO THE TO THE STUDENTS OR TO STUDENT ORGANIZATIONS LOOK LIKE SO THESE ARE JUST SOME QUESTIONS. WE WANTED TO THROW OUT TO YOU AND SEE. IF WE WANT TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT IT TONIGHT OR IF YOU JUST WANT TO TAKE THESE HOME AND THINK ABOUT IT, WE CAN MAKE IT DISCUSSION ITEM FOR NEXT MONTH'S MEETING. BUT SO WHAT ARE OUR GOALS FOR THIS GRANT PROGRAM? UM HOW DO YOU WANT AS A BOARD WANT TO CONNECT THE GOALS[01:50:02]
OF THE GRANT TO THE TO YOUR GOALS AND PRIORITIES AS A BOARD? UH UM. WHAT EXPECTATIONS? WOULD YOU LIKE TO RELATE TO THE SCHOOLS, IF ANY, AND THEN? UM WHAT EXPECTATIONS WOULD YOU LIKE TO PLACE ON THE STUDENTS OR THE STUDENT ORGANIZATIONS THAT MIGHT GET THIS GRANT? WE DO HAVE. IT'S NOT AN ENVIRONMENTAL GRANT. BUT I THINK WHERE WE NEED TO GET TO, UM BECAUSE WHEN WE MEET WITH THE SCHOOLS AND THEN ULTIMATELY WILL HAVE TO BRING ALL THIS TO CITY COUNCIL TO KIND OF GET THEIR, UM , AUTHORIZATION TO MOVE FORWARD. BUT WE NEED TO PUT TOGETHER SOME SORT OF FRAMEWORK. YOU CAN'T REALLY SEE THIS. I DON'T KNOW HOW TO UM, THIS IS A SMALL GRANT PROGRAM THAT THE CITY, UPPER UPPER ARLINGTON DOES FOR COMMUNITY RELATIONS PROJECTS, SO IT'S NOT THE SAME SUBJECT MATTER . BUT I THINK WHAT WE NEED TO START DEFINING IS WHO IS THIS FOR? WHAT IS THE PURPOSE? UM YOU KNOW, IT'S A COMPETITIVE LIKE PROGRAM. UM AND THEN WHAT ARE THE GOALS THAT WE'RE ASKING THE STUDENT PROJECTS TO ACHIEVE AND SO FOR THIS SMALL GRANT PROGRAM. THEY'RE LIKE INFORMATION, SO IT'S PROJECTS. THAT INCREASE LIKE KNOWLEDGE AND UNDERSTANDING . UM, INVITING INCREASES NUMBER TYPE OF LIKE QUALITY INTERACTIONS BY NON RESIDENTS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. AND THEN THERE'S AN INCLUSION GOAL, SO I ONLY WANTED TO SHOW THIS TO JUST DEMONSTRATE WHAT A GRANT A SMALL GRANT PROGRAM FRAMEWORK COULD LOOK LIKE. UH UM. AND I THINK THIS IS ULTIMATELY WHAT WE PROBABLY HAVE TO DO FOR THIS GRANT PROGRAM AS WELL. THAT DOES WATER STATIONS. REFILL STATIONS BE 30. WHAT TIME IT'S KIND OF LIKE, WHAT'S OUT HERE IN THE I THINK THOSE ARE FILTERED. I THINK THEY HAVE FILTERS ON THEM. YEAH. GOOD. SO IF YOU GUYS. I MEAN, HAVE THOUGHTS ON THIS NOW, IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT IF YOU WANT TO. WE CAN PUT IT ON NEXT MONTH'S AGENDA ITEM WITH THE GOAL OF JUST KIND OF CREATING THIS FRAMEWORK THAT THEN WE CAN USE TO MEET WITH THE SCHOOLS AND START THINKING THROUGH. WHAT DOES THIS MEAN? YOU KNOW, HOW WOULD THEY PROMOTE THIS? I DON'T EVEN KNOW FROM A CALENDAR STANDPOINT WITH THE SCHOOL CALENDAR WHEN IT WOULD MAKE SENSE FOR THIS GRANT PROGRAM TO LAUNCH UM, SO I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF DETAILS THAT WE HAVE TO KIND OF FLESH OUT WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AS WELL. DO WE HAVE A LOT SCHEDULED FOR NEXT MONTH? IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE ON THE AGENDA? UM NOT THAT I KNOW OF HAVE TO TALK MY HEAD. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT AND I MEAN, MY PERSONAL OPINION IS WE WAIT UNTIL NEXT MONTH UNTIL YOU HAVE MORE IDEAS FROM THE SCHOOL AS TO WHEN YOU WANT TO START IT, THAT KIND OF THING. AND THEN JUST KIND OF THINK ABOUT THE POINTS THAT YOU'VE GIVEN US. YEAH YEAH , WE CAN PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA IF YOU GUYS WE CAN EMAIL THESE QUESTIONS OUT TO YOU, UM IF WE GET A MEETING WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT BEFORE OUR NEXT MEETING WILL CERTAINLY TAKE THAT AND START TALKING TO THEM. AND THEN HOPEFULLY I THINK AS A BOARD IF YOU GUYS CAN COME TOGETHER WITH WHAT, LIKE THE BONES OF THIS PROGRAM IS, THEN WE'LL TAKE THAT TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AS WELL AND SHARE THAT WITH THEM. YEAH I AGREE. I THINK IT'S A LONGER DISCUSSION. I MEAN, THIS REALLY DISTINCTLY IF YOU'RE MEETING WITH THE SCHOOL'S IN MY MIND. YOU KNOW IT WOULD PREFERABLY BEATS PROJECT THAT WOULD AFFECT EITHER THE SCHOOLS OR INVOLVING , YOU KNOW, LIKE A LOCAL PROJECT. IT WOULD BE SOMETHING YOU KNOW, ACTIONABLE THAT THAT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO NOT JUST TALK ABOUT SUSTAINABILITY, OR THAT IT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT THEY WOULD ACTUALLY BE DOING SOMETHING. HELLO URBAN FURTHER SUSTAINABILITY, I GUESS AND THEN TIMELINE. I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT YOU, PREFERABLY ONE STUDENTS TO HAVE MOST OF THE SCHOOL YEAR. I WOULD THINK SO, YOU KNOW, MAYBE STARTING BALL AND THEN FINISHING THIS SPRING. EXISTED BONES AND THE I AGREE. I THINK MORE THAN YEAH. TOP OF THE AGENDA NEXT MONTH. WE COULD DO THAT. LILY, DO YOU HAVE ANY AS A STUDENT? WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THIS? WELL I CAN'T SPEAK FOR ALL THE HIGH SCHOOL BUT LIKE UM I KNOW THE INTERMEDIATE SCHOOLS GETTING COMPOST FOR THEIR LUNCH , BUT THE HIGH SCHOOL REALLY DOESN'T HAVE ANY OF THAT. AT ALL . SO I FEEL LIKE THAT COULD BE THAT BE A GOOD PROJECT IS THERE ? I'M SURE IS THERE AN ENVIRONMENTAL CLUB OR OKAY? SO I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING ELSE TO THINK ABOUT AS A BOARD LIKE WHO WOULD BE ELIGIBLE, SO WOULD IT JUST GO TO A CLUB. UM THAT HAS[01:55:06]
LIKE A TEACHER AS AN ADVISER, WOULD YOU WANT TO GIVE IT OUT TO INDIVIDUALS? INDIVIDUALS I THINK START THINKING THROUGH SOME OF THOSE THINGS. AND THEN WE CAN KIND OF COME UP WITH THE STRUCTURE OF THE GRANT PROGRAM. ALRIGHT, WE'LL PUT IT ON. WHAT EMAIL THESE QUESTIONS OUT TO YOU SO YOU CAN START THINKING ABOUT THAT, AND THEN WE'LL MAKE IT THE TOP ITEM NEXT MONTH'S AGENDA. WE HAVE TIME TO CAN WE ADD AS LONG AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NEXT MONTH. THE IDEAS FOR THIS WACO GRANT. I THINK WE MISSED OUR WINDOW FOR 22, BECAUSE WE JUST KIND OF STARTED TALKING ABOUT IT LATE SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT. WE HAVE TIME NEXT MONTH. WE TALK ABOUT ALL THAT. YEP. WE CAN PUT THAT ON THE AGENDA. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. I THINK THAT IS IT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, UM, ANY OTHER BUSINESS TO ADDRESS TONIGHT? NOPE. DRAINING BOARD MEMBERS HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR ANYTHING ELSE THEY WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS. ALRIGHT THEN I MOVED TO JOIN THE MEETING AT 8 26 DO I HAVE A 2ND 2ND? FAVOR. ANY OPPOSED. ALRIGHT* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.