[I. Call to Order]
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ALL UH, HAPPY NEW YEAR AND GOOD AFTERNOON OR EVENING. DEPENDING ON YOUR PREFERENCE. WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND GET THE GET THE MEETING STARTED, AND WE'LL JUST BEGIN WITH ASKING THE STAFF TO TAKE ROLL CALL FOR OUR TENANTS WHO MS. OH YEAH. SO WE DO HAVE SOMETHING WE WANT TO DO BEFORE WE START. WE WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE TO YOU, CHRISTINA. SHE IS NEW ALBANESE, NEW DEPUTY.
CLERK AND SHE WILL BE COOKING OUR MEETINGS FROM NOW ON. SO WELCOME, CHRISTINA. THANK YOU.
AND JUST REMIND THE COMMISSION MEMBERS AND TO PLEASE TURN ON YOUR MICROPHONE FOR THE PUBLIC RECORD. MR BONEY. MR BRUBAKER HERE. MR CHAPPELLE EAR HERE. MR GUPTA. MISTER HARPER. MR HERSKOWITZ HERE. MR PAUL HERE, MR SELLERS HERE, MR SMITHERS HERE. I HAVE SIX MEMBERS PRESENT . FANTASTIC OKAY, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GET GET GOING HERE, SO THE FIRST THING WE WANT TO DO IS GET
[III. Record of Proceedings]
A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE PREVIOUS MEETING, WHICH ARE, UM RIGHT HERE, AND I TRUST EVERYONE'S HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THOSE I MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT LAST MONTH'S MEETING SECOND.STAFF DID HAVE ONE CORRECTION. SORRY TO INTERJECT AGAIN. WE PUT PAPER COPIES OF THE MINUTES AT YOUR SEATS. THERE WAS, UM SOME TYPOS THAT DO NOT CHANGE THE CONTENT OF THE MINUTES THAT WERE UPDATED SINCE WE EMAILED YOU, SO WE WANTED YOU TO HAVE THE REVISED VERSION. UM SO IT IS THAT YOUR DISCRETION WHETHER YOU STILL WANT TO VOTE ON THEM. THIS EVENING. NO COME ON. STAND BY MY SECOND. THANK YOU. OKAY WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CALL THE ROLL. FOR APPROVAL. MR HERSKOWITZ. PROOF.
MR PAUL? YES. MR SELLERS ABSTAIN. MR SMITHERS? YES. MISTER HARPER. MR CHAPPELLE EAR? YES. MR BRUBAKER? YES. IN THIS BUILDING. FIVE VOTES TO APPROVE THE MINUTES. TURN THE MIKE BACK ON. ALL RIGHT NOW I'M I THINK THIS IS THE LARGEST MEETING THAT WE'VE HAD IN THE TIME THAT I'VE BEEN DOING THIS DO WE HAVE EXTRA CHAIRS IN CASE OTHERS OTHERS COME. WE MIGHT NEED TO BE READY FOR THAT. UM SO IS THIS A PUBLIC FORM OFFICIALLY JUST WANTED TO DOUBLE CHECK THAT THAT'S ON MY CHECKLIST. OKAY? YES, OKAY. AND IS THERE ANY OLD BUSINESS? NO BUSINESS. OKAY SO, UM, I DO NOT HAVE THE FOUR GENDER IN FRONT OF ME. SO I'D LIKE TO JUST GO AHEAD AND ASK THE STAFF TO GO AHEAD AND READ THE AGENDA NUMBER AND DO THEIR PRESENTATION. THANK YOU . ALRIGHT, WE'RE STARTING ON NEW
[V. New Business]
BUSINESS. THIS IS THE FIRST APPLICATION Z 22 OH 92 AND CV 22 1 41. 51 42 CENTRAL COLLEGE ROAD. THIS SITE CONSISTS OF THREE PARCELS, WHICH TOTAL AN APPROXIMATE, UM 9.89 ACRES IN AREA. TWO OF THE PARCELS ARE CURRENTLY UNDERGOING ANNEXATION FROM PLAIN TOWNSHIP TO THE CITY OF COLUMBUS. THE PORTION OF THE SITE ALREADY WITHIN THE CITY OF COLUMBUS IS CURRENTLY ZONED RURAL RESIDENTIAL, AND IT'S OCCUPIED BY A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE. THIS DEVELOPMENT IS PROPOSED TO BE A SISTER DEVELOPMENT TO THE FENNIMORE APARTMENTS WHOSE FIRST PHASE WAS NOT REVIEWED BY OUR F B. A. THE SITE IS BORDERED ON THE NORTH AND THE WEST BY A RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT ZONED NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER. THE IMMEDIATE ADJACENT USES ARE GENERALLY MIX OF SINGLE AND TWO FAMILY RESIDENTIAL UNITS. PHASE TWO OF THE FENNIMORE APARTMENT COMPLEX WAS REVIEWED AND RECOMMENDED BY THE ART BE A PANEL IN AUGUST OF 2022 , WHERE THE APPLICANT COMMITTED TO ADDING STREET TREES ALONG CENTRAL COLLEGE IN HAMILTON'S ROADS, ADDITIONAL SIDEWALK CONNECTIONS UM, THAT CONNECTS YOU PHASE ONE AND A COMMITMENT TO PRESERVATION OF THE STREAM COURT OR PROTECTION ZONE ON THE SITE. THE APPLICANT PROPOSALS DEVELOPMENT OF THE SITE WITH 216 DWELLING UNITS OR 9.89 ACRES. AND IS COMMITTED TO DESIGN STANDARDS SET FORTH BY THE ROCKY FORK, BLACK LIQUOR ACCORD, COMMUNITY PLAN AND DESIGN STANDARDS. STAFF CONSIDERATIONS[00:05:06]
. ROCKY FORK BLACK WITH RECORD DOESN'T MATES THE SIZE WEST VILLAGE NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER. UM THE ACCORD DESIGNATE CENTRAL COLLEGE ROAD AS A NATURAL CORRIDOR. HOWEVER THE SITE IS ALSO NEAR HAMBLETON ROAD, WHERE THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS HAVE GROWN TO INCLUDE A MIX OF USES, INCLUDING COMMERCIAL, MULTI FAMILY AND CONDOMINIUMS. THE VILLAGE NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS ALLOW FOR MIXED USE AND MULTI FAMILY DEVELOPMENT. THE PROPOSAL IS WITHIN AN AREA THAT RECOMMENDS A MAXIMUM DENSITY OF FIVE UNITS PER ACRE PROPOSAL EXCEEDS THE RECOMMENDATION, COMMITTING TO A MAXIMUM DENSITY OF 21 UNITS PER ACRE 21.24 UNITS PER ACRE.ALTHOUGH HIGHER THIS DENSITY IS COMPARABLE TO OTHER MULTI FAMILY DEVELOPMENTS IN THE AREA, INCLUDING THE RAVINES AT ROCKY RIDGE, ANDREW RESERVE IN ALBANY CORNERS STAFF FINDS THE PROPOSED USES TO BE APPROPRIATE BASED ON LOCATION AND SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS ALONG CENTRAL COLLEGE ROAD, HOWEVER, MAINTAINING THE CHARACTER OF CENTRAL COLLEGE ROAD AND PRESERVATION OF NATURAL RESOURCES ARE KEY ISSUES FOR THIS PARCEL, REGARDLESS OF THE DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL. STAFF NOTE THE DESIGN THE SITE DESIGNED TO BE GENERALLY APPROPRIATE, BUT REQUEST THE APPLICANT TO EXPLORE OPPORTUNITIES TO ACTIVATE THE OPEN SPACE ON THE NORTHEAST SIDE OF THE SITE TO INCLUDE WALKING PATHS, EATING LANDSCAPING AT THE CENTER OF THE SITE TO ACTIVATE THE PROPOSED GREEN SPACE STAFF NOTES THE ABSENCE OF BICYCLE PARKING IN THE PROPOSAL AS WELL . STAFF REQUEST THE APPLICANT ELIMINATE THE EIGHT PARKING SPACES TO THE EAST OF BUILDING ONE. THAT'S ACTUALLY YOU CAN SEE THEM. IT'S THOSE SPACES RIGHT THERE. THE EASTERN BUILDING ONE TO ACCOMMODATE BICYCLE PARKING, WHICH IS REQUIRED BY CODE AND INCREASE THE LANDSCAPING AT THE ENTRANCE TO THE SITE. LASTLY STAFF ENCOURAGED THE APPLICANT TO EXPLORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR ADDITIONAL SCREENING AND TREES ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE SITE TO MITIGATE ANY POTENTIAL POTENTIAL LIGHT OR NOISE ISSUES TO YOUR ADJACENT PROPERTIES. STAFF FIND THE PROPOSAL TO BE INAPPROPRIATE LAND USE FOR THE SITE, GIVEN THE EMERGING DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS AT THE ADJACENT CENTRAL COLLEGE AND HAMILTON'S ROAD INTERSECTIONS, REPORTING, PROPOSING A MIXED USE ENVIRONMENT. ALTHOUGH PRESENTED A HIGHER DENSITY THAN THE PLAN RECOMMENDATIONS STAFF RECOGNIZES RECOGNIZES AGAIN THAT IS COMPARABLE TO NEIGHBORING MULTI FAMILY DEVELOPMENTS AND BELIEVE IT ALIGNS WITH THE EXISTING CHARACTER OF THE AREA. THIS IS A CONCEPTUAL REVIEW. FOR THIS APPLICATION, SO NO RECOMMENDATION FROM STAFF IS GIVEN AT THE TIME AND NO VOTE WILL BE TAKEN BY THE PANEL.
FANTASTIC AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE RECORDS REFLECT THAT MR. GUPTA IS HERE, SO WE'LL HAVE HIM AND I APPRECIATE THE AMPLIFICATION THAT THIS IS A CONCEPTUAL REVIEW, SO WE'RE JUST KIND OF LOOKING AT IT AND PROVIDING FEEDBACK, BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE MAKING A VOTE TODAY, SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS THAT AND THEN WITH THAT, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CALL THE APPLICANT FORWARD TO, UM TELL US MORE ANSWER QUESTIONS. AFTERNOON MR CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE ACCORD . MY NAME IS MIKE SHANNON. I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF, UH DAVID RUMOR WHO'S WITH ME, AS WELL AS THE ROBERT WYLER COMPANY. UM I DO HAVE ADDITIONAL COPIES. IF ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE IS INTERESTED IN WHAT WAS PRESENTED EVERYBODY WANTS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TODAY. WE'RE PRETTY EXCITED ABOUT THIS DEVELOPMENT AS YOU'LL RECALL. WE WERE BEFORE YOU JUST A FEW MONTHS AGO. WITH THIS SITE TO THE SOUTH AS WE ROUNDED OUT THAT DEVELOPMENT HERE. THE DENSITY IS REMARKABLY SIMILAR, BUT THE LAY OF THE LAND IS REMARKABLY DIFFERENT. YOU MIGHT REMEMBER THAT WE HAD EXTREME CORRIDOR PROTECTION ZONE ON THE OTHER SIDE. AND PAID HOMAGE IN DEFERENCE TO THAT, AND THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION, THE DESIGN OF THE MULTI FAMILY UNITS IS DONE TO PRESERVE WHAT IS AN EXISTING POND ON THE SITE.
THEY'RE ADJUSTED. SOME STORMWATER NEEDS FROM CONTIGUOUS PARCELS. WE INTEND TO LEAVE THAT IN ITS CURRENT FORM, AS WELL AS A VERY, VERY SUBSTANTIAL TREE STAND IN THAT AREA. UM, I THINK FROM, UM THE ONSET. WE WANT TO DEMONSTRATE HERE THAT WE WANT TO BE SENSITIVE TO THE FACT THAT ALTHOUGH THERE'S MULTIFAMILY TO THE NORTH THAT ACTUALLY TO THE NORTHEAST, THERE'S SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL TO OUR WEST. IN THAT REGARD. THE. POND AND THE TREES PROVIDES PRETTY GOOD BUFFER THERE. AND AS A CONSEQUENCE, WE THINK THE LAYOUT IS CONDUCIVE TO A TOP SHELF MARKET RATE DEVELOPMENT. UM IN YOUR PACKET OR SOME RENDERINGS OF THE PROPOSED PROJECTS DONE BY. DEAN
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WANTS AN ARCHITECT THAT I'M SURE SOME OF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH. WE WANT TO STRESS HERE THAT WE ARE MAINTAINING THE GREEN SCAPE AND THE CORRIDOR THE WAY THAT THE YOUR PLAN ENVISIONED. WE'VE GOT HEALTHY GREEN SPACE SETBACKS . WE ARE AMENABLE TO THE SUGGESTIONS OF THE ACCORD STAFF WITH RESPECT TO WORKING OUT THIS PARKING SPACES ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE ENTRANCE ACCESS WAY THEY'RE PROVIDING THE BICYCLE PARKING AND I BELIEVE THEY SAID ADDITIONAL SUFFERING ON THE EASTERN PERIMETER. THOSE ARE ALL THINGS THAT WE WILL ADDRESS TO THE SADDEST, UH, FACTION OF STAFF. CAN'T COMMITMENT WITH THE PREVIOUS ZONING AND A NUMBER OF OTHER ZONING SON IN THIS AREA.BY MR WYLER TRAFFIC STUDY WAS PERFORMED THE ACCESS THAT HE ALSO INCLUDED THIS PERSON AND THIS PROPOSAL HAS DOES PASS MUSTER WITH THE DIVISION OF TRAFFIC ENGINEERING. AND I, AS THE STACK REPORTS INDICATE FROM THE CITY, AND THEY HAVE REQUIRED A TURN LANE WITH 110 FT PAPER.
FOR AN IMPROVEMENT, THEIR OWN CENTRAL COLLEGE, WHICH WE ARE GOING TO DO, UM, THE BOTTOM LINE IS WE THINK IT'S INAPPROPRIATE DEVELOPMENT BASED ON THE SURROUNDING DENSITIES. WE THINK THAT THE MARKET SPEAKS FOR ITSELF. DEMAND CONTINUES TO INCREASE IN THE SUPPLY JUST SIMPLY CAN'T KEEP UP WITH IT. WE DO WANT TO BE SENSITIVE TO OUR RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORS, AND WE'RE ALWAYS WILLING TO SIT DOWN AND TALK. UM AND THAT'S WHY THESE CONCEPTUAL MEETINGS ARE VERY HELPFUL TO THE EXTENT WE CAN PRESENT IT PUBLICLY. AND THEN IF THERE'S ANY CONCERNS OR QUESTIONS, WE CAN WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORS. IN THE MEANTIME, WHICH IS OUR INTENTION HERE? SO WITH THAT, UM I KNOW YOU HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE THAT MAYBE WANT TO TALK, SO I'LL BE BRIEF AND I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. AND DID DID WE HAVE? UH YES, PEOPLE LISTENING TO SPEAK. WE DO HAVE A COUPLE OF SPEAKERS. UM LET ME CALL UP. MHM 22 OH, 92 FOR THIS APPLICATION, DON WHITE. SOME OF THEM ARE FOR DIFFERENT PROJECTS.
SO I THINK MOSTLY WHAT I WANTED TO ADD TO. THIS IS THAT EXCUSE ME BEFORE WE CONTINUE ON. I THINK THEY HAVE TO BE SWORN IN. I WAS JUST ABOUT THE SAME. SO YOU HAVE THE INTRODUCTION. OKAY, THANKS. OKAY. AND NO ONE. DO YOU HAVE THAT INFORMATION? THE SWEARING IN AND INTRODUCTION PART IT WOULD BE UP TO YOU, BUT YOU WOULD JUST ASK. DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, WHOLE TRUTH HAVING THAT THE TRUTH AND THEN JUST STATE YOUR NAME AS WELL. AND THEN THEY ALSO STATE YOUR NAME WHITE. THANK YOU. I AM A PROPERTY OWNER THAT THAT'S THE AREA TO BE DEVELOPED. SO UM, WHAT I WANTED TO SHARE IS THAT SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT I BREAKFAST TOO. I THINK MANY OF THEM COULD BE MITIGATED, IF INDEED THE TREES AND THE 25 FT. TOUGHER THAT APPEARS IN THESE APPLICATION ARE INDEED MAINTAINED BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT WE HAD HAPPENED WITH THE LAST DEVELOPMENT. TO THE OTHER SIDE OF US. THEY SAID THAT THEY WOULD KEEP TREES. THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. AND I TOOK THESE PICTURES TO SHOW EXACTLY WHERE ALLEYWAY OR CARRIAGEWAY IN MY SPEAKING IS SO YOU CAN SEE THAT WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THIS IS THE VIEW THAT YOU HAVE. ON THE EASTERN EDGE. OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HOPING TO AVOID. IN THE SECTION THAT CURRENTLY LOOKS LIKE THIS TO THE SOUTH OF ONION. AND THOSE ARE INDEED ALONG THIS ENTIRE ALLEYWAY GIRLS. THE OTHER SIDE TO THE WEST IS WHERE THE TOWNHOUSES ARE THAT HAVE SHARED WALLS AND ALL THE OTHERS ARE SEPARATE CAMPS. SO THAT'S WHY I WANT TO MAINTAIN THAT. SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOU ARE GOING. DISTANT TREES. OKAY? I'M THE FIRST ONE TO GO. SO I DON'T KNOW. MAYBE MAYBE WHAT WE CAN DO IS JUST KEEP TRACK OF THE QUESTIONS AND THEN YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND ADDRESS THOSE BECAUSE I THINK THAT THERE WOULD BE MUCH LESS CONCERN ON OUR PART IF THEY AT LEAST MAINTAINED THE TREES THAT ARE EXISTING. THERE ARE A NUMBER OF TALL TREES THAT ARE THERE NOW, WHICH WE HAD ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL. AND CUT ALL OF THEM DOWN. OKAY PEOPLE COMPLAINED THEY PLANTED FOR SHORT EVERGREENS. OKAY DON, IF YOU DON'T MIND. I'VE GOT A POINTER HERE. COULD YOU HELP US
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UNDERSTAND? WHAT ARE YOUR PROPERTIES ON THIS SIDE? THIS SIDE. RIGHT? NO UH HUH. RIGHT SEE THAT GREEN GREEN SPACE THAT LONG? RIGHT HERE. ALRIGHT THE POINTER TERRIBLE READ. I'M JUST I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE FOLLOW ALONG. HERE. OKAY HERE IN THIS. OKAY, CAMERA. AND WHAT THAT'S THE PROPERTY THAT THEY YOU TOOK PICTURES OF TO THE RIGHT THERE. THAT'S OKAY, PASSIVELY. ON THIS SIDE. IT'S NOW PROBABLY NOT. MR WHITE , MR WHITE. IF YOU COULD SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE FOR THE PUBLIC RECORD, THAT'D BE GREAT. THANK YOU. SO UH, THIS TRASH COMPACTOR. IS IN THE ORIGINAL PLAN WAS TO BE ANGLED THIS WAY. SO THAT IT WOULD HAVE A MINIMAL IMPACT REALLY, AND THAT SOME OF THE TREES WOULD BE RETAINED. INSTEAD ALL OF THE TREES HAVE BEEN CUT DOWN AND COMPACTOR. PERPENDICULAR WITH THE PROPERTY LINE, AND IT HAS A GIANT ROYAL BLUE DOOR. IT'S NOT LARGE ENOUGH TO ACTUALLY HOLD ALL THE GARBAGE FOR ALL THE APARTMENTS. AND THEIR GARBAGE IS OFTEN LAID ON THE SIDE THERE AND BLOWS AND VARIOUS CARDS. AND IT'S NOT.THERE'S THAT SCREENED. I'M SORRY . IT'S NOT SCREENED. NO IT IS NOT, EXCEPT FOR THE FOR EVERGREENS PLANTED WHEN PEOPLE COMPLAIN. BUT THEY PLANTED THOSE SO THAT IT IMPROVED THE LINE OF SIGHT WITH THIS HOME AND THE ONE NEXT TO IT, AND ONLY THERE'S FOUR TREES PLANTED JUST HERE. SO I KNOW THIS IS A DIFFERENT PROPERTY. BUT THIS IS THE SITUATION WE'RE WANTING TO AVOID. WE'RE HOPING THAT THIS COMPACT COULD BE MOVED SOMEWHERE ELSE BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT THIS TO BE. A BIG INFESTATION AREA OF WILDLIFE. BECAUSE IT'S FAIRLY OPEN. YOU KNOW, THE DOOR IS LEFT OPEN IN THE TOP IS OPEN AS WELL. SO THAT'S THAT'S ONE CONCERN. IF THESE TREES THAT ARE EXISTING NOW ARE MAINTAINED. AND IF THERE'S A PRIVACY FENCE, THIS LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A PRIVACY FENCE. ONLY IN THIS SECTION. I HOPE I'M WRONG. I HOPE YOU CAN ADDRESS IF IT'S A PRIVACY FENCE THAT GOES THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF THIS THAT WOULD HELP AS WELL. BUT ALSO EVEN WITH THE PRIVACY FENCE, HAVING TALL TREES HERE WILL HELP WITH LIGHT POLLUTION, NOISE POLLUTION. THE VIEW OF.
TOP BUILDINGS THAT WOULD BE LOOKING INTO PEOPLE'S BEDROOMS, HOMES. SO THAT IS OUR HOME.
THANK YOU. AND WE'RE JUST. YEAH. YEAH AND WE'RE JUST TAKING IN THE INFORMATION AND THEN WE'LL HAVE THE DEVELOPER RESPOND. MHM. THIS IS SHOWING WHAT I'M SORRY THAT WE WANT TO MAINTAIN. YOU MIGHT AS MUCH OF THAT AS POSSIBLE. YOU MIGHT JUST SHOW THOSE TO MR SHANNON. MAKE SURE THAT HE KNOWS WHERE THEY WERE TAKEN. IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL IN ADDRESSING THE QUESTION. OKAY? YESTERDAY OKAY? YEAH APOLOGIZE FOR INTERJECTING, BUT WE TYPICALLY GIVE, UM SPEAKERS ABOUT THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK. UM JUST SO EVERYONE, ALL THE SPEAKERS WHO ARE HERE AFTER YOU . I SHOULD HAVE EXPLAINED THIS AHEAD OF TIME, BUT THREE MINUTES PER APPLICANT ALL QUESTIONS OR INFORMATION DIRECTLY, UM, DIRECTED DIRECTLY TO THE PANEL. IF YOU DON'T MIND AS WELL, THANK YOU. OKAY AND WE HAVE FROM YEAH , I WILL LET YOU CALL THE PERSON UP AND THEN WE'LL DO THE PROCESS. JUST A QUICK CLARIFICATION. ELITA BAIRD WAS IT FOR THIS APPLICATION? OR WAS IT FOR THE NEXT ONE? OKAY? SURE. YOU RE CLEMENS. STEP ON THAT, PLEASE. OKAY. AND WE'LL HAVE TO
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ASK YOU TO SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? YES OKAY . AND IF YOU WOULD JUST TELL US YOUR NAME AND GO AHEAD AND TELL US YOUR THE INFORMATION LAST YEAR, MY NAME IS RICK LEMON. I'M A RESIDENT OF UPPER ALBANY WEST AND ONE OF THE TRUSTEES ON THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION MOVED INTO THE COMMUNITY ABOUT SEVEN YEARS AGO. UM. BECAUSE THEY'RE THREE MINUTES. I'LL CUT THIS DOWN JUST A BIT HERE. BUT ARE WE REALIZED THAT. THERE'S A ROCKY FORD ACCORD. I ACTUALLY MADE A COPY OF THAT AND READ THAT THING OVER THE WEEKENDS BECOME FAMILIAR WITH IT, UM AND YOU THE DEVELOPER IS FOR THE MOST PART. WE BELIEVE. FOLLOWING SOME OF THE PLANTS ARE FOLLOWING THE RULES THAT BUT WE'VE GOT SOME SUGGESTIONS THAT WE'D LIKE TO BE CONSIDERED. FIRST ONE I GOT HERE IS RELOCATE THE TRASH DUMPSTER. UM AND WE'VE GONE OVER THAT. UM . WE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THERE'S A COPY OF THE MASTER DRAIN PLAN AND HOW THAT'S GOING TO AFFECT ANY RUNOFF COMING TOWARDS OUR COMMUNITY BECAUSE OF THE PONDS THAT WE HAVE LOCATED THERE. UM I DON'T KNOW WHETHER TRAFFIC STUDIES BEEN DONE YET OR WHETHER THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO DO ON THIS PROPERTY BECAUSE BEING CENTRAL COLLEGE, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S ONE A MAIN MEANS OF INGRESS AND EGRESS. AND THEN THERE'S A EMERGENCY, AND I KNOW WHETHER THE COMMUNITY SHOULD HAVE TO MEANS IN AND OUT, AS OPPOSED TO JUST ONE UM, WE WOULD MUCH PREFER TO LIMIT THE HEIGHT TO TWO STORIES, UM IN THE BUILDINGS AND SWAP THAT OFF FOR A DENSITY OF 21. BUT IF YOU'RE GOING TO GO WITH A THREE STORY BUILDING, WE DON'T LIKE A DENSITY OF 13. AND THAT'S BECAUSE THERE'S ANOTHER. THE THREE STORY UNITS ARE BEING PUT IN. UM THEY'RE THEY'RE MASSIVE THERE AS. THERE'S A TOTAL OF 2800 AND 30. UM, UNITS AVAILABLE. IN THE SURROUNDING AREA. UM THERE'S A COUPLE TWO STORIES DEVELOPMENTS ALREADY IN, YOU KNOW ADJACENT TO OUR COMMUNITY WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT AT THE TWO STORY. BECAUSE THE PEOPLE HAVE NO PRIVACY 111 SERVICE SOMEBODY ON THE THIRD FLOOR THEY CAN EASILY SEE IN THE BACKYARDS AND THE HOUSES. UM WE WANT TO EXTEND THE SIX FT PRIVACY FENCE IN THE AREAS THAT ARE COMMON WITH U A. W UM, AS AS WAS POINTED OUT. MINIMIZE LIGHT POLLUTION. WE'D LIKE TO MAKE SURE THERE'S IF THERE'S PARKING LOTS ARE GOING LIGHTS ARE GOING TO BE ON THAT. THEY'RE ON TIMERS IN THE EVENING, SO THEY DO GET SHUT DOWN AT SOME POINT. AND THE SHIELDING LIGHTS ARE USED.EXTEND THE SIDEWALK AND LEISURE TRAIL. FROM THE EAST SIDE OF ABROAD, MANY WEST TO THE WEST SIDE OF THE APARTMENTS. AND THEN I HEARD YOU GUYS THERE. THERE'S AN ANNEXATION TAKING PLACE.
BECAUSE TWO OF THE PARCELS I BELIEVE ARE IN PLAIN TOWNSHIP AND ONE'S IN COLUMBUS, SO IT'S NOT GOING TO HAVE A SPLIT. THAT'S CORRECT. UM. AND THE REST OF THIS IS INVOLVED WITH THE TREES AND MAKING SURE THAT THAT AREA IS KEPT UP. UM GOING BACK TO THE DENSITY. IF YOU'RE GOING TO PUT IN A THREE STORY BUILDING, WE PREFER DENSITY BEING 13, AS OPPOSED TO 21 RECOGNIZE THAT THE DENSITY OF THE FIVE AND THERE'S A BONUS FOR IT. IF YOU PRESERVE THE TREES, YOU CAN GET A BONUS OF EIGHT UNITS OF DENTALLY. UM WE DON'T SEE THE NEED FOR GOING UP TO 21 JUST BECAUSE THERE'S OTHER APARTMENTS IN THE AREA. WE GOT. OKAY UM DP MIND IF I JUST RECAP WHAT YOU SAID JUST TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THAT AND I'M JUST GOING TO TAKE THESE OFF THE DUMPSTER.
THE DRAINAGE PLAN EGRESS. LIMIT THE HEIGHT. UM THE EXTERIOR FENCE. THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT ANNEXATION AND THE TREES. THAT WAS THAT WHAT YOU HAD? OKAY, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YEAH DENSITY AS IT RELATES TO THE NUMBER OF STORIES, RIGHT? OKAY. GREAT. THANK YOU. AND JUST A HEADS UP FOR ALL OF THE APPLICANTS. ALL OF THESE NOTES WILL BE TAKEN, UM AND I'LL MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE SHARED WITH OUR APPLICANTS AS WELL. SO THEY HAVE ALL OF THE INFORMATION THAT YOU SAID TO HERE TONIGHT. OKAY? AND WE HAD ANOTHER. YES. COME ON UP. OKAY AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU SWEAR THE NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH AND I'LL TRY TO KEEP IT SIMPLE, OKAY? AND ALSO GIVE US YOUR NAME TOO EASILY TO BEAR. I AM. THE OWNER OF. THE PROPERTY. I DON'T HAVE A
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POINTER, BUT THE FRONT. I AM ON THE HIP. PERPENDICULAR STREET, TOO. DONE. SO YES, ACTUALLY, I'M NOT TOO FAR FROM THE CORNER OF THE POND. WHICH SEEMS LIKE IT WOULDN'T BE AN ISSUE AT ALL BECAUSE I'M GOING TO HAVE A LITTLE MORE PRIVACY THAN OTHERS. BUT UM, I WILL TELL YOU THAT ALREADY ON MORE THAN ONE OCCASION AFTER HIGH WINDS, I HAVE GOTTEN TO CLEAN TRASH. FROM THAT THE PLANE THAT COMES BACK FROM THAT DUMPSTER. I'VE GOTTEN TO COME OUT AND PICK UP OTHER PEOPLE'S TRASH. UM, HOW DO I KNOW NOW? I WOULD HAVE TAKEN PICTURES. I DIDN'T FEEL LIKE IT WAS NECESSARY. UM I DO. NO THAT CHANGED THINGS HAPPEN. PEOPLE THINGS ARE DEVELOPED. I DON'T KNOW THAT ANYBODY IN THIS ROOM I WOULD THINK IT'S OKAY FOR THAT BUILDING TO GO UP WHERE WE LIVE.SO WHEN WE LOOK AT OUR BACK BEDROOM WINDOWS WE'RE LOOKING UP INTO A THIRD STORY. TREES ARE NOT. I DON'T BELIEVE IN AND DISRESPECT, BUT I DON'T REALLY BELIEVE THAT MR SHANNON. IS THAT CONCERNED ABOUT THOSE OF US THAT LIVE ON THE STREET? I'M SPEAKING THE TRUTH. UM AND I KNOW THAT AGAIN WITH THE OTHER DEVELOPMENTS ON IT, AND THEY SAID, THIS IS HOW IT'S GOING TO BE THE LAST MINUTES CHANGED. I INVITE ANYBODY IN THIS ROOM TO COME VISIT ME OR DAWN. WE HAVE LIVED HERE WE ARE DECENT PEOPLE. WE'VE WORKED THERE AND WE'VE LIVED THERE AND WE'VE STAYED.
WE'VE BEEN THROUGH A TORNADO. WE'VE BEEN THROUGH ALL KINDS OF THINGS THERE. AGAIN MR SHANNON DOESN'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH THIS IN HIS BACKYARD. WE DO. SO WHEN WE HEAR THE ISSUES ARE GOING TO BE ADDRESSED, PARTICULARLY GRADUATE TAKING NOTES, NOTES ARE BEING TAKEN. BUT IS THAT REALLY GOING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE? I MEAN, YOU'RE ALL GOING TO WORK LIKE WE ALL DO. MR SHARON'S GONNA KEEP BUILDING THESE BUILDINGS. THIS IS PERSONAL. FOR US. IT'S A PAYCHECK FOR HIM. THE TRASH DUMPSTER IS AN ISSUE AGAIN . ANYONE CAN DRIVE UP THERE AND SEE IF WE WERE PROMISED FENCES FROM WHATEVER DEVELOPMENT APPS ARE FROM WHATEVER BILL OR OUTSIDE OF THIS AND THEY TALK ABOUT THESE SENSES. THEY AREN'T FENCES ABOUT THIS SIDE AND THEIR GATES. AND TO SAY, OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO PUT YOU KNOW TREASON. WELL, YOU DON'T NEED TO KNOCK DOWN THESE TREES THAT HAVE BEEN HERE FOR FOREVER THAT ARE STILL STURDY, SOUND PROTECTIVE. THERE'S AN OWL. I'M NOT GOING WILDLIFE. I DON'T HAVE TIME TO GO AND PROMOTE ALL THAT. BUT THERE ARE OWLS IN THAT FACTORY IN THAT BACK CORNER. THERE IS NO NEED TO CLEAR OUT THE TREES TREASURY, WHATEVER TO PUT IN, AS DON SAID, FOUR FT HIGH TROOPS THERE. THOSE AREN'T GONNA DO ANYTHING. UM BEING QUICK, I GUESS ANOTHER CONCERN I HAVE, AND AGAIN, WE CAN ALL PROMISE IT BUT MR SHANNON HAS NO CONTROL DRUGS. WHAT? OBVIOUSLY IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT MAKES SENSE TO DRIVE CONSTRUCTION TRUCKS IN THERE, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING ELSE THAT'S HAPPENED IN THE PAST THAT CONSTRUCTION TRUCKS HAVE COME THROUGH WHERE THEY SHOULDN'T BE COMING FROM OTHER PARTS OF THE DEVELOPMENT. UM. I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE. THE BIGGEST THING TO ME IS PRIVACY. THAT'S PART OF WHAT WE BOUGHT THAT HOUSE. IT WAS PRIVACY. IT WAS QUIET. WE KNOW THINGS ARE GOING TO DEVELOP. YOU KNOW, AND I PROMISED IT'S A SMALL THING. AND YOU GUYS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT. BUT WE ALL IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD HAVE BEEN HURT, BUT WE'VE HEARD LOTS OF PROMISES. AND WE KNOW AT THE END OF THE DAY, THINGS ARE BUSINESSES AND IT DOESN'T MATTER. BUT AT LEAST I TRIED, MR SHANNON TRIGGER A GREAT HUMAN BEING, BUT I DON'T KNOW. THAT'S THREE MINUTES. THANK YOU. OKAY DID YOU HAVE ANYONE ELSE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE TWO MORE SPEAKERS. SHAWN MORAN. WAS IT FOR THIS PROJECT OR THE NEXT? THE NEXT ONE? OKAY AND I BELIEVE WE HAD ONE MORE SPEAKER, BUT THE SPEAKER SLIP IS MISSING. THAT'S OKAY. PLEASE GO AHEAD AND WE'LL SIGN YOU ANIMAL. TAKE YOUR NAME AS WELL. DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT TRUTH WILL HELP GOD DO IN MY NAME'S JENNY PERCLE. UM I'M PROBABLY GOING TO SOUND A LITTLE BIT REPETITIVE, BUT I WILL OFFER. UM SOME RECOMMENDATIONS AND, UM OTHER SUGGESTIONS THAT I'VE COME UP WITH. I LIVE ON TREVON WAY, WHICH IS GOING TO BE THE WEST, UM, STREET CLOSEST TO THAT POND . I AM ONE OF THE HOUSES THINK, BELIEVE THAT WILL BE A LITTLE BIT MORE BUFFERED BY THE POND IN THE TREES, BUT MY NAME CONCERN AS IT'S EVERYBODY ELSE HERE. THE WHAT I'LL TALK ABOUT IS THE TREES UP BY THE FRONT POND. UM FOR ME WHEN YOU COME IN AND OUT , YOU'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT THE BACK OF GARAGES AND FENCES. IT WOULD BE NICE NOT ONLY FOR PRIVACY, BUT NOISE POLLUTION LIGHT POLLUTION TO BE ABLE TO KEEP THE MATURITY IS THAT ARE THERE ONE OF THE WAYS THAT I, UM I HAD LOOKED AT TO ACCOUNT FOR THIS IS IF YOU MOVE BACK THE GREEN SPACE THAT'S NEAR BUILDING
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SEVEN AND BUILDING EIGHT. UM APPROPRIATELY, YOU'LL STILL BE ABLE TO TAKE IN ACCOUNT FOR EIGHT INPUT DEEP PARKING STALLS , 24 FT DRIVE, I'LL AND THEN YOUR GARAGE SPACE AND YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO COME UP WITH A LITTLE CHANCE AND FIVE FT FOR A STEP. IF YOU COULD CONTINUE TO USE THE TREES THAT ARE THERE. THOSE ARE GONNA HAVE HE IS THE MOST EFFECTIVE WAY TO BRING PRIVACY TO NOT ONLY OUR COMMUNITY, BUT OUR NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES. NO. I WOULD HATE TO SEE THIS AREA TURNED INTO YOU KNOW THIS PERSON ON THIS SIDE OF THIS AND JUST GO BACK AND FORTH, SO THE MORE MYSTERIES I THINK WE CAN KEEP THE BETTER OVERALL FOR BOTH COMMUNITIES. IT'S NOT JUST OURS.I KNOW YOU CAN PLANT NEW TREES. HOWEVER THEY ARE SMALL. THEY TAKE A WHILE TO GROW, AND SO YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET THE ACTUAL EFFECT FOR MANY YEARS DOWN THE ROAD. I DO UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S NOT UP TO US. BUT THOSE WERE JUST MY RECOMMENDATIONS FOR ANY REASON THEY CANNOT BE MET. UM I WOULD JUST HOPE AND SUGGEST THAT THE DEVELOPER YEARS, TWO INCH CALIBER TREES AT A MINIMUM INSTEAD OF BUSHES OR ANYTHING SMALLER THAN THAT, SO THAT WE CAN GET THE MAXIMUM PRIVACY AND CUT DOWN ON THE NOISE FROM ALL THE SURROUNDING AREAS. SO AGAIN, I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR CONSIDERATION. MR CHAIRMAN , I ASK FOR A CLARIFICATION. UM IS THIS THE AREA THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO HERE, OKAY. UH UM. AND THIS IS THE POND. YOU MENTIONED THE POND. BUT THAT'S THE POND ASSOCIATED WITH UPPER TALKED ABOUT, OKAY, I KNOW I JUST I WAS LOOKING HERE FIRST, BUT, YEAH, ME TOO. OKAY SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE AND THERE IS A SETBACK HERE THAT I'M GUESSING IS 10 OR 15. FT I'M NOT SURE THEY'RE TRYING TO PROPOSE IT TO CHANGE TO 5 TO 5, HOPING THAT WE CAN GET MORE AROUND 10 TO 15 FT THAT YOU HAVE A POSSIBILITY OF BEING ABLE TO KEEP THE TREES FILLING. YOU'RE SUGGESTING IF THEY'RE ABLE TO MOVE THESE TO THE EAST, IF YOU WILL, THEN YOU COULD PRESERVE THE TREES AND OR PLANT ADDITIONAL TREES IN THAT AREA. OKAY I DO KNOW THAT WHEN YOU START DIGGING OUT AND POURING FOUNDATIONS THAT CAN DISRUPT THE NATURE THAT'S IN THERE SO SOMETIMES THAT WILL JUST NATURALLY KILL OFF THE TREES, AND THAT'S WHY I PROPOSED. THE TWO INCH CALIBER TREES AS WELL.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND MAY I ASK ANOTHER QUESTION OF CLARIFICATION, AND IT MAY BE FROM YOU, OR MAYBE FROM ONE OF THE OTHER PRESENTERS. IS THE. THERE HAVE BEEN A NUMBER OF REFERENCES TO THE DUMPSTER IS THAT UP IN THE UPPER RIGHT HAND CORNER THAT WE'RE REFERRING TO.
WITH PRIOR RIGHT? JUST A LITTLE NORTH OF THAT RIGHT THERE. OKAY. YOU'RE REFERRING TO THAT ONE? THE ONE THAT'S BEEN PROBLEMATIC HAS BEEN ANOTHER ONE ASSOCIATED WITH ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT. WE'RE JUST TRYING TO MITIGATE ANYMORE , OKAY, INTRODUCE DISTINCT PROBLEM. WE KNOW THERE. IT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT DEVELOPERS. RIGHT RIGHT. WE JUST DON'T WANT TO. AT TWO. OKAY AND I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT WE'RE REALLY ONLY ABLE TO KIND OF DISCUSS WHAT'S INSIDE OF THAT BOX THERE . SO VERY GOOD. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. OKAY? HAVE THE APPLICANT COMBAT. I'M SORRY.
I'M NOT SURE TO STAFF OR TWO. I WILL ACTUALLY TAKE A COPY OF THAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, AND I'LL MAKE SURE THAT'S SHARED WITH EVERYONE ON THE PANEL AS WELL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. I'LL BE BRIEF. UM, A LOT OF VERY, VERY GOOD WELCOME COMMENTS. THE NUMBER ONE, UM, WITH RESPECT TO THE NORTHERN PERIMETER. STOP THERE. CERTAINLY WE HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH I THINK A BOARD ON BOARD FENCE FOR THAT PORTION IN THE UPPER RIGHT HAND CORNER. WHERE THERE IS PROPOSED TO BE A TRASH DUMPSTER. ALSO THE CODE REQUIRES, SUCH AS DUMPSTERS BE SCREENED ON ALL FOUR SIDES AND WE WILL, ADDITIONALLY PROVIDE THAT ADDITIONAL SCREENING WITH RESPECT TO THE REST OF THE NORTHERN PROPERTY LINE. WE'RE NOT AVERSE TO PUTTING A FENCE IN THERE, BUT THAT WILL COMPROMISE OUR ABILITY TO PRESERVE TREES. THEY'RE MUCH LIKE WE'VE DEALT WITH ON THE EAST AND THE WEST SIDE OF THE THINNER, MORE TRACK. UM THE COMMISSION VOTED THAT TIME THAT WE COULD BETTER PRESERVE THAT TREE STAND BY NOT DOING THE BOARD ON BOARD FENCE, BUT WE WOULD. OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE WILLING TO DISCUSS THAT FURTHER. UM WE HAVE NO PROBLEMS WITH OUR
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ENGINEERS, PROVIDING A STORMWATER PLAYING ANALYSIS. BUT AGAIN, UM, THAT DOES NOT REALLY HAPPENED DURING THE ZONING. IT'S REQUIRED. TO GET YOUR PERMITS, BUT WE WOULD CERTAINLY BE WILLING TO SHARE THAT GUYS. UM ALSO, WE DID CONDUCT A TRAFFIC STUDY AND WE CAN PROVIDE THAT AS WELL AS THE REQUIREMENT THAT WE HAVE THAT EMERGENCY ACCESS THERE AS THE SECOND MEANS, UH AND EGRESS. UM THIS URGENCY, THREE STORY BUILDINGS. UM THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF A MISCONCEPTION, I AGREE. UH, YES. THREE STORIES, BUT THE CODE RIGHT NOW LYLE'S 35 FT HEIGHT. WE NEED FIVE ADDITIONAL FEET 40 FT. SO IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE ASKING FOR ADDITIONAL STORY ABOUT WHAT THE EXISTING HEIGHT DISTRICT IS. WE'RE JUST ASKING FOR BUT BY MOST PEOPLE STANDARDS WOULD BE AT THE MINIMUM INCREASE. UM THE . WITH RESPECT TO THE. WORKING ON THE BUFFER BY THE GARAGES.WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. WE HONESTLY THOUGHT, UM, SIMILAR TO THE OTHER ZONING THAT FIVE FT SETBACK WAS APPROPRIATE THERE BECAUSE ON THE OTHER SIDE WAS A GREEN SPACE WITH VAGINAS POND.
BUT THE EXTENT THOSE TREES ARE IMPORTANT, WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THIS. SEE IF WE CAN CAN WORK ON THAT ISSUE. UM ALSO, THERE'S WAS A CONCERN MENTIONED ABOUT THE LIGHTS WOULD BE DOWN. LIGHTING UM I WOULD NOT SPILL OVER ONTO YOUR PROPERTY. THE ANNEXATION HAS BEEN APPROVED BY THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, BUT THE CITY OF COLUMBUS HAS NOT TECHNICALLY RECEIVED IT WITH OUR MUNICIPAL SERVICE ORDINANCE, AND THAT SHOULD HAPPEN HERE IN THE IMMEDIATE FUTURE. WE'RE ALSO AMENABLE PUTTING IN THE SIDEWALK AND LEISURE PAST. CERTAINLY THE MINIMUM CHEESE SIZE SHOULD BE AT LEAST 2.5 INCH CALIPER. UM, AND TO THE EXTENT THAT, UM. SOME PEOPLE FEEL LIKE YOU CAN'T TRUST AN ATTORNEY. WE HAVE TO PUT ALL OF THIS IN WRITING AND IN THE PACKAGE SIDE. PASSED OUT THERE IS A LIMITATION TAX. AND THESE ITEMS ARE ARE OR WILL BE INCORPORATED INTO OUR LIMITATION TEXT IN ANY VIOLATION OF THAT IS A CODE VIOLATION. WHICH, UM ROBERT WYLER COMPANY IS NOT THEM FOR SO, HAVING SAID THAT I'M AMENABLE TO MEETING WITH THE DESIRE NOW THAT WE HAVE CONTACT INFORMATION FOR PEOPLE THAT TESTIFIED. BE MORE THAN HAPPY AND WILL REACH OUT TO THEM. I GOT COPIES OF THE PICTURES AND AGAIN NEWS CONCEPT MEETINGS, FOSTER BETTER RELATIONS OR COMMUNICATIONS AND I WILL FOLLOW THROUGH. I KNOW YOU HAVE ANOTHER MATTER ON THE AGENDA. SO UNLESS YOU HAVE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS FOR ME YEAH, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GIVE THE BOARD A CHANCE TO ASK QUESTIONS FOLLOW UP. JUST REAL QUICK HAS A TREE SURVEY BEEN CONDUCTED? NO, SIR. I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THAT OCCUR. OKAY AND HAVE WE EXAMINED THE SITE FOR THE PRESENCE OF ANY WETLANDS? YES WETLANDS STUDY. WILL THERE BE ANY IMPACTS? NONE WHATSOEVER. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I WASN'T AWARE OF THAT MYSELF, RIGHT? MR SHANNON, DAVE. PAUL. UM FULL DISCLOSURE. I SERVE FORWARD BOARD MEMBER AND NOW SERVE AS TREASURER OF THE CENTRAL COLLEGE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY. YOU MAY ALREADY BE FAMILIAR WITH THAT, AND IT INCLUDES THE DEVELOPMENTS THE SINGLE FAMILY HOME DEVELOPMENTS IN THIS AREA, INCLUDING UPPER ALBANY WEST, WE COEXIST WITH THE WAY WE DON'T BY ANY MEANS, INTERFERE WITH ITS OPERATIONS OR DO WHAT IT DOES.
WE WERE CREATED FOR A VERY SPECIFIC PURPOSE. AND THAT IS ESSENTIALLY TO RAISE FUNDS TO HELP FUND INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS IN THE AREA. ALL OF THESE HOMEOWNERS IN UPPER ALBANY WEST AS I'M SURE THEY'LL CONFIRM PAY A COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CHURCH, WHICH HELPS DEFRAY THE COST OF THOSE IMPROVEMENTS. UM I DON'T KNOW THAT A MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT WOULD NORMALLY BECOME PART OF THE CDA DISTRICT . BUT IS THERE SOME EQUIVALENT WAY IN WHICH THIS PROJECT AND THE DEVELOPER WOULD BE PARTICIPATING IN THE PAY AS WE GROW? PROGRAM TO EFFECTIVELY HELP DEFRAY THE ONGOING COSTS OF INFRASTRUCTURE IN THIS AREA. I'M NOT DODGING THE QUESTION I'D ACTUALLY HAVE TO RESEARCH THAT, UM. DID THE MASTER ZONING FOR THIS ENTIRE AREA OF 300 ACRES, AND AS A RESULT, THE ACCORD WAS WARM. HISTORY LESSON. UM AND THEN OBVIOUSLY THE PAYERS WE GROW CAME MUCH LATER AND HAS BEEN VERY VALUABLE TOOL FOR INFRASTRUCTURE. BUT I'VE GOT I
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HAVEN'T LOOKED AT THOSE CRITERIA AND SOME TIME, BUT I DO COMMIT THAT I WILL DO THAT. THERE'S A PERSON AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THAT'S CHARGED WITH THAT, AND I WILL FOLLOW UP AND NUMBER ONE.SEE IF THERE'S A MECHANISM FOR MULTI FAMILY PROJECTS HAVE DONE IT. AND MR SELIG, NUMBER TWO.
THAT IS AN IMPACT, THE THAT I'D HAVE TO OBVIOUSLY DISCUSSED WITH THE CLIENT. UM BUT, UM. I HEAR YOU. I HADN'T OCCURRED TO ME HONEST WITH YOU. BUT WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND WE CAN REPORT BACK TO STAFF PRIOR TO YOUR MEETING AND I HAVE YOUR CONTACT INFORMATION. DAVE SURE HAD IT FOR ABOUT 20 YEARS AND AGAIN. I'M I'M NOT A FUNDRAISER FOR THE CITY SEEMS FAIR THAT WHEN THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMEOWNERS ARE CONTRIBUTING TO THE AREA'S INFRASTRUCTURE THAT THERE SHOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WAS PAYERS REGRET WHAT'S FOR SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT, RIGHT? UM WHICH MR WYLER? UH 33 YEARS AGO THAT WEST ALBANY IN THE CITY OF COLUMBUS SCHOOL DISTRICT. WHEN HE WAS PRESIDENT OF THE CLUB SCHOOLWORK . SO UM, I'M SORRY TO GO ON THAT ARE JUST ONE. QUICK FOLLOW UP OF YOU DID MENTION THE TRAFFIC STUDY HAS BEEN DONE. YOU MENTIONED THEY TURN LANE WAS REQUIRED. IS THAT RIGHT? UM BUT OTHERWISE WE'RE IT. WAS IT THE TRAFFIC DEPARTMENTS ESTIMATION THAT IT WOULD NOT BE AN IMPACT ON TRAFFIC IN THE AREA OR WHAT WERE THEIR CONCLUSIONS APPROVED OUR ACCESS STUDY AND SAID THAT THE EXISTING TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY THAT WAS DONE FOR THIS WHOLE AREA BY MY CLIENT. MOM SAID THAT THAT WAS ADAM. OKAY WE ALREADY HAVE A TRAFFIC SIGN OFF, WHICH IS UNUSUAL, JUST JUNCTURE OF THE PROCESS. BUT SINCE THE STUDY WAS RECENT AND CONTINUOUS TRACKS MR. BLACKSMITH MR MOORE HAD SIGNED OFF ON I'VE GOT TO START REPORTS TOO, THAT I COULD GIVE YOU COPIES OF I'M SURE NO ONE HAS IT. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION. WE MIGHT HAVE A FEW MORE QUESTIONS. I'M SORRY. I'M SORRY. NO. QUICK QUESTION, SO I'M GETTING THIS CONFUSED WITH THE NEXT MONTH, BUT IS THIS TWO PARCELS ARE THREE? THIS IS THREE PART OF THE PARCELS AND ONE IS ALREADY ANNEXED INTO THE OTHER TWO ARE IN THE IN THE LOCATION, RIGHT, OKAY, AND THAT'S IT. ON POINT QUESTION, BECAUSE, UM, THOSE PARCELS WILL NOT BE ABLE TO BE COMBINED BECAUSE THEY'RE TECHNICALLY AND DIFFERENT TAX DISTRICTS, SO THAT GETS THE RISE TO A NUMBER OF VARIANTS IS HAVING TO DEAL WITH THE PROPERTY LINE. HYPERTECHNICAL VARIANCES. AND AS PART OF THAT, AND OBVIOUSLY THIS IS IN PLAIN TOWNSHIP, AND IT'S BEEN ANNEXED INTO COLUMBUS. FROM THE SCHOOL DISTRICT STANDPOINT, THIS WILL BE COLUMBUS SCHOOLS. THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING. CERTAINLY. I THINK THAT'S THE THING WE'VE GONE THROUGH THIS PROCESS BEFORE . I JUST WANT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE YES, YES. OKAY, THANKS. ANOTHER QUESTION. YES I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. OR MAYBE MAYBE EVEN THREE. I DON'T KNOW. AH THE PROPERTY DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM THERE. AH YOU USED TO BE THE AS I REMEMBER TO BE BEHIND HER PROPERTY. DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM IT. IT WAS IT WAS JUST RECENTLY. BEFORE THE BOARD HERE. WHAT WAS THE DENSITY ON THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY? OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. I'M NOT POSITIVE, BUT I CAN FIND THAT OUT. OKAY? I DON'T I DON'T THINK IT WAS ANYWHERE NEAR THE DENSITY OF WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR HERE. THAT'S THAT'S MY FIRST QUESTION. SECONDLY, UH AND THIS IS PROBABLY MORE FOR STAFF. WHAT IS THE WITH THE ROCKY FORK GUIDELINES. WHAT IS THE SETBACK OFF OF THE CENTERLINE OF THE ROAD WHERE THE FIRST BUILDINGS ARE BECAUSE THE WHOLE CORRIDOR THERE IS SET WAY BACK, BUT AND THIS DESCRIPTION ALL OF THOSE BUILDINGS AT THE FRONT THERE WOULD BE THROUGH THE AH, QUARTER OR YOU CAN SEE HOW FAR BACK THE LAKE IS NEXT TO HIM. THEY PUT THE LAKE IN THERE BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T BUILD ANYTHING ON IT. SO NOW WE'RE ASKING FOR MORE.
APARTMENT BUILDINGS, SETTING RIGHT UP NEXT TO THE ROAD. WE ALSO HAVE A ROAD THAT NEEDS TO BE WIDENED, SO THAT'S GOING TO COMPRESS THAT AREA SOME SO THAT'S THAT'S ANOTHER ONE OF MY CONCERNS. I WONDER ABOUT SUCH A HIGH PROPERTY DENSITY. I DON'T THINK AT LEAST I DON'T RECALL.
UH THAT HIGH DENSITY AT ANY OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED IN THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, AND YOU REFERRED TO IT AS THE NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER, THE NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER ORIGINALLY AS IT WAS PROPOSED. UH, ACCOUNT FOR THREE STORY BUILDINGS. OR WAS IT ALSO COMMERCIAL? UM WELL THROUGH STORY BUILDINGS WERE INCLUDED IN THE ACCORD ALLOWS FOR UP TO THREE STORIES UP TO THREE STORIES. WAS THERE ANY COMMERCIAL INVOLVED? UH UM. IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, I BELIEVE
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COMMERCIAL. HAS A LITTLE BIT HIGHER OF A LIMIT. OKAY, BECAUSE . UH, I THINK TO THE PROPERTIES THAT WERE EXCITED. BEING IN THE AREA. WORDS. UH, SORRY. LIKE 9.11, I THINK AH, ANOTHER ONE WAS SOME 11. OH, NO. EXCUSE ME. THAT WAS THE PAGE NUMBER THAT I PULLED IT OFF. UH, BUT THERE IT WAS LOOKING TO ME LIKE UNLESS I'M GETTING CONFUSED WITH THE ONE THAT'S COMING UP NEXT, UH, THAT THE ONES THAT THEY WERE CITING IN CLOSE PROXIMITY OF THE AREA, ACTUALLY DOWN AT UH, WARNER ROAD IN HAMBLETON ROAD WITH A LOT OF COMMERCIAL AND STUFF, AND THEY THOSE WERE STILL LESS SO I GUESS THE UH, DENSITY IS WHAT CONCERNS ME THE MOST IN THE FACT THAT THE SETBACK NOW IS NOT GOING TO BE, BUT IT HAS BEEN FOR THE ENTIRE CORRIDOR COMING DOWN THERE. YOU GOT THIS ONE.APARTMENT COMPLEX THAT EVERYTHING'S STICKING OUT THERE . AND HOW DOES THAT AFFECT THE PROPERTY OWNERS TO THE EAST THAT ARE STILL CLEAN TOWNSHIP? BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE IF THEY SELL THEIR PROPERTY AND TEAR DOWN THE HOUSE. THEY HAVE VERY GOOD PIECE OF PROPERTY. BUT THEN THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO COME BACK AND TRY TO RENEGOTIATE. ALSO BREAKING UP THE CORRIDOR.
AND THEN THAT'S I'M TRYING TO LOOK FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD THAN JUST THIS ONE LITTLE THING RIGHT HERE. UH HUH. SO THOSE ARE THE QUESTIONS I HAVE FOR STAFF, AND IF YOU CAN ANSWER ANY OF THEM THAT WOULD THAT WOULD BE FINE. I MEAN, THANKS, MIKE. FIRST OF ALL , IT'S NOT THE CENTER LINE, IT'S MORE MAINTAINING THE ACCORD. BUFFER. IT'S 50 FT FROM THE RIGHT OF WAY LINE. SO WE ARE IN COMPLIANCE OF THE ACCORD, AND WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR VARIOUS WHERE WHAT IS BUT WHEN IT WAS WRITTEN, IT WAS TO MAINTAIN THAT YOU COLLEAGUE NATURE OF THE ACCORD. BUT WE ARE IN COMPONENTS WITH AND THE DENSITY PROJECTS THAT WE CITED ARE CONTIGUOUS TO OUR PROPERTY. DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET DIRECTLY TO THE YES, ONE OF YOUR PROPERTIES ACROSS THE STREET, THE ONE THAT WE DID THIS TIME OF PROPERTY YESTERDAY . 21.4 UNITS TO THE EIGHT HOW MANY 21.4. UM, LET'S SEE. OH ANOTHER QUESTION. I HAD THE POND THAT YOU HAVE THERE. HOW LARGE IS THE POND? I DON'T KNOW YET.
ABOUT HALF AN ACRE POND? YES IS THAT GONNA BE ORDERED IN ANY WAY LARGER, SMALLER OR ANYTHING? OKAY? AND I THINK YOU BRIEFLY SPOKE TO IT. BUT YOU'RE PUTTING IN A TURN LANE HERE. YES, SIR.
OKAY. AND AT THAT POINT RIGHT NOW, THE ROAD IS A TWO LANE IS THAT CORRECT? I'M GOING TO LOOK AT THE TRAP THAT COMMENTS I GET OKAY. YEAH IT SAYS A COMMITMENT WILL NEED TO BE ADDED FOR 110 FT . LONG EASTBOUND LEFT TURN LANE. INCLUSIVE OF THE 60 FT. DIVERGING TAPER SHALL BE CONSTRUCTED AT THE PROPOSED ACCESS POINT. HMM. OKAY. AND THE OTHER COMMENT THAT I HAVE IS FROM A PROPERTY OWNER KNOWING THAT MY. PROPERTY RIGHT NEXT TO ME WAS DEVELOPED AND THEY PUT UP A GARAGE FIVE FT FROM MY PROPERTY LINE. I WOULD PROBABLY I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT, TOO.
SO WHATEVER YOU CAN DO ON THAT ASPECT OF IT. YES I THINK WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED BY NOT ONLY TRYING TO KEEP THE RURAL SENSE, BUT I WOULDN'T WANT TO GO OUT AND SPEND MONEY FOR A NICE BIG POND. THAT I COULD ENJOY AND LOOK OUT. SEE SOMEBODY'S GARAGES. I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S NOT A GOOD BACKGROUND FOR GRANTED THE POINT THAT THEY DID , AND ALSO THE THIRD PROPERTY.
IT'S ALREADY IN COLUMBUS. DIDN'T WE REVIEW THAT ONE? A FEW YEARS AGO, IT WAS GOING TO BE A RETIREMENT CENTER. NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE. I DIDN'T YEAH. THE FIRST PHASE OF THE FENIMORE PROJECT WAS NOT REVIEWED BY THE FDA PANEL. BUT THE PROPERTY THAT HAS THE POND ON IT. WE DIDN'T HAVE A REZONING ON THAT TO MAKE IT A RETIREMENT CENTER. IF YOU DID IT WAS BEFORE I OKAY TO THE FBI. WELL, I'VE BEEN AROUND HERE. NO QUITE A WHILE. I DON'T EVEN HAVE ANY IDEA. OKAY? THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. DID DID WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY WELL, YOU KNOW, JUST OH,
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YEAH. WE HAD. EXCUSE ME. COULD YOU GET ON THE MICROPHONE, PLEASE? WITH YOUR QUESTION? STATE YOUR NAME? YEAH, AND TYPICALLY, WE DON'T ALLOW SPEAKERS TO SPEAK WITHOUT SUBMITTING A SPEAKER SLIP BEFORE. UM SO I'M GONNA LEAVE IT TO THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIR TO LET HIM YOU JUST HAD A QUESTION. THAT'S WHAT WE'LL TAKE. YOUR QUESTION IS COULD YOU STEP TO THE MIKE? COULD YOU STEP NAME IS KEVIN WALLACE LIVING UP WEST? JUST NORTH OF THE PONDS ON OUR PROPERTY. AND MY QUESTION. INTO DEVELOPMENT WAS IN HIS EXPERIENCE OF CENTRAL POWERS AND HAVE TO BE WIDELY RIGHT TURN LAND. CAN YOU TALK INTO THE MIC? YOU CAN HEAR YOU JUST FINE IF YOU DO THAT. HOW LONG WOULD IT HOW LONG GENERALLY DOES THAT TAKE TO MAKE TO PUT IN A TURN LANE? FOR THE PROPERTY. BECAUSE CENTRAL COLLEGES ARE VERY BUSY, ESPECIALLY AT RUSH HOUR IN THE MORNING IN THE AFTERNOON. UM AND . TRAPPED LOT OF PEOPLE USE CENTRAL ECOLOGY AT THE HAMILTONS GET OUT THE ACCESS TO 1 61 INSTEAD OF GOING UP TO SUNBURY ROAD. BUT JUST HOW LONG WILL THAT PROCESS TAKE IN THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS OF WIDENING THE ROADS? OKAY, ALRIGHT. IT'S A REALLY THE ONLY RESPONSE IS THAT THE DIVISION OF TRAFFIC AND IT DEPENDS ON THE TIME OF THE YEAR THAT CONSTRUCTION IS DONE AND A LOT OF VARIABLES. BUT THEY HOLD OUR FEET TO THE FIRE TO MINIMIZE THE DISRUPTION. WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN THAT GRANULAR ON THE CHEF AND I DON'T WANT TO PROVIDE MISINFORMATION. SO, UM. MR ROEMER SAID THAT HE COULD TALK TO SOME OF THE ENGINEERS HAVE WORKING ON THIS TO GET A BALLPARK. BUT HE'S BEEN DOING THIS A LONG TIME. AND THERE ARE SO MANY VARIABLES JUST CAN'T ADDRESS IT, BUT I'LL TRY TO BE PREPARED NEXT TIME. OKAY YEAH, REMEMBER? REMINDER YOU KNOW, THIS IS A WE'RE LOOKING AT IT. WE'RE NOT MAKING ANY DECISIONS WERE GETTING THOSE QUESTIONS AND SO THAT WE CAN HAVE IT FOR THE FINAL PROPOSAL. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE GENERAL PUBLIC THAT WE ANSWER OR DID WE RESPOND ABOUT TWO? WAS THERE ANY QUESTION THAT WAS NOT RESPONDING BACK TO. THE PRIVACY FENCE IS PUT IN THAT AREA. SOME OF THE TREATMENT AND I JUST THOUGHT IT WAS WORTH NOTING. HOW WE FEEL AS PEOPLE THAT ARE LIVING THERE, WHETHER WE KING OF THE TREES. I THINK WE WOULD IF WE HAD TO CHOOSE BETWEEN YOU WOULD WANT TO MAINTAIN RETREAT. YEAH. SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE OKAY. OKAY.THANKS. THANK YOU. AND HOPEFULLY EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT ANY OF THIS DOCUMENTATION IS AVAILABLE PUBLIC DOMAIN. ON THE SITE, SO HOPEFULLY EVERYBODY'S REVIEWING THAT. AND WHAT WE REVIEW THE NEW DOCUMENTS BEFORE THE NEXT RIGHT FOR THE APPROVAL PROCESS. OKAY? OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, EVERYONE. FOR ALL THE COMMENTS JUST A QUICK REMINDER. I WILL. I WILL MAKE SURE TO ORGANIZE ALL OF THE COMMENTS AND MAKE SURE THAT THE PANEL AND EVERYONE HAS IT AHEAD OF TIME SO EVERYTHING CAN BE ADDRESSED BEFORE THE NEXT MEETING. NO, I HAVEN'T. YEAH. OKAY I HAVE THE AGENDA NOW, SO I'M GONNA SO WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND MOVE TO OUR NEXT CASE , AND THIS IS ANOTHER CONCEPTUAL REVIEW. THIS IS Z 22. OH, 95 AND CV 22 144 AT 69 35 HARLEM ROAD AND WE WILL. MAYBE WE CAN LET EVERYONE GO AHEAD AND EXIT. AND THEN I WILL. UPON THAT TIME WE'LL HAVE THE STAFF GO AHEAD AND DO THEIR REPORT. GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED. IF THAT'S OKAY, GO AHEAD. UM THIS IS APPLICATIONS E 22 OH, 95 AND CV 22 1 44 69 35 HARLEM ROAD. THE SITE CONSISTS OF THREE PARCELS IN TOTAL, WHICH APPROXIMATELY 14.87 ACRES, AN AREA. THE TWO SOUTHERNMOST PARCELS ARE CURRENTLY UNDERGOING ANNEXATION FROM PLAIN TOWNSHIP TO THE CITY OF COLUMBUS. THE SITE ALREADY WITHIN THE CITY OF COLUMBUS IS CURRENTLY ZONED RURAL RESIDENTIAL AND IS OCCUPIED BY A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE. THE SITE IS BORDERED BY A MIX OF CITY OF COLUMBUS
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PROPERTY AND PLAIN TOWNSHIP PROPERTY. THE CITY OF COLUMBUS. PROPERTY IS OWNED P U D FOUR ON THE NORTH, NORTH, EAST AND WEST ARE RURAL ON THE SOUTH. THE APPLICANT PROPOSES DEVELOPMENT OF THE SITE WITH 300 DWELLING UNITS ON 14.87 ACRES AND IS COMMITTED TO DESIGN STANDARDS SET FORTH BY THE ROCKY FORD BLACK CLICK RECORD COMMUNITY PLAN DESIGN STANDARDS. ROCKY FORK. UM THE RFP A DESIGNATES THIS SITE AS WEST VILLAGE NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER RECOMMENDS A MAXIMUM DENSITY OF FIVE DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE. HOWEVER THE SITE IS ALSO NEAR HAMILTONIAN.CENTRAL COLLEGE ROADS WERE DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS HAVE GROWN TO INCLUDE A MIX OF USES, INCLUDING COMMERCIAL, MULTI FAMILY AND CONDOMINIUMS. PROPOSAL EXCEEDS THE ACCORD RECOMMENDATION OF FIVE DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE COMMITTING TO A MAXIMUM DENSITY OF 21.24 UNITS PER ACRE. ALTHOUGH HIGHER, THE DENSITY IS COMPARABLE TO OTHER MULTI FAMILY DEVELOPMENTS IN THE AREA, INCLUDING THE RAVINES THAT ROCKY RIDGE, ANDREW RESERVE AND ALBANY CORNERS TO THE EAST FIND THE PROPOSED USES TO BE APPROPRIATE BASED ON LOCATION AND SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS ALONG HARLEM ROAD. HOWEVER MAINTAINING THE CHARACTER OF HARLEM ROAD AND PRESERVATION OF NATURAL RESOURCES OR KEYS ISSUES FOR THIS PARCEL, REGARDLESS OF THE DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL. STAFFING AT THE SITE DESIGNED TO BE GENERALLY APPROPRIATE, BUT REQUESTS THAT THE APPLICANT EXPLORE OPPORTUNITIES TO ACTIVATE THE OPEN SPACE ON THE WEST SIDE. THE SITE WITH A MULTI USE TRAIL WALKING PATH AND WALKING PATH, I COULD POTENTIALLY CONNECT TO FUTURE DEVELOPMENTS TO THE NORTH. BASED ON THE RFP RECOMMENDATION STAFF REQUESTS THE APPLICANT CONSIDER THE FOLLOWING REVISIONS TO THEIR PROPOSAL PROVIDE ELEVATIONS FOR ALL SIDES OF THE BUILDING PROVIDED LANDSCAPING PLAN THAT INCLUDES HEADLIGHT SCREENING ALONG THE NORTH AND SOUTH PROPERTY LINES. PROVIDE A MORE DETAILED SITE PLAN THAT SHOWS SURFACE PARKING AND LIGHTING LOCATIONS. COORDINATE WITH CITY FORESTER CHAD HALL FROM THE ADDITION OF STREET TREES ALONG HARLEM ROAD. POSITION OF MULTI USE TRAIL OR WALKING PATHS ALONG THE ROCKY FORD CREEK THAT COULD BE EXPANDED TO FUTURE DEVELOPMENTS TO THE NORTH AND SOUTH. PRESERVATION OF HIS MANY EXISTING MATURE TREES AS POSSIBLE AND IDENTIFIED BICYCLE PARKING ON THE SITE PLAN AS REQUIRED BY CODE. GIVEN THE EMERGING MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS IN THE AREA STAFF FIND THE PROPOSAL TO BE APPROPRIATE LAND USE FOR THE SITE. THIS APPLICATION WAS SUBMITTED FOR CONCEPTUAL REVIEW AND AS SUCH STAFF WILL NOT BE OFFERING A RECOMMENDATION AT THIS TIME. OKAY AND WE HAVE AARON HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT. THANK YOU, RALPH. MEMBERS OF THE BOARD ERIN UNDERHILL WITH UNDERHILL AND HOT AT 8000. WALTON PARKWAY HERE IN NEW ALBANY REPRESENTED PREFERRED LIVING AND WITH ME IS JARED SMITH, WHO I KNOW YOU'VE ALL MET BEFORE, AS WELL. UM HAPPY TO PRESENT ANOTHER PREFERRED LIVING PROJECT HERE. I THINK YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THEIR PRODUCT TYPE . THEY ARE ONE OF THE BEST IN THE BUSINESS THAT THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT UM, YOU'VE APPROVED IN RECENT TIMES A NEW PROJECT OVER ON WARNER ROAD, BUT THEY'RE STARTING AND THEN YOU HAVE ANOTHER PROJECT ON WARNER ROAD THAT EXISTS AND PEOPLE HAVE BEEN UP AND DOWN THOMPSON ROAD RIGHT BY THE PARK THAT THEY DEVELOPED QUITE A NUMBER OF BUILDINGS OVER THERE MANY YEARS AGO, PROBABLY AT LEAST 10 NOW AND HAVE ADDED OTHERS MORE RECENTLY. UM. YOU KNOW THIS? THIS CORRIDOR HERE IS REALLY, UM IT'S SERVING THE PURPOSE OF REALLY FEEDING BUSINESSES AROUND THE AREA AND PROVIDING HOUSING FOR THOSE WHO ARE ALL HEARD OF THE INTEL PROJECT, OBVIOUSLY, AND I THINK COLUMBUS HAS BEEN AT THE FOREFRONT OF WELCOMING NEW HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES AND HIGHER DENSITIES, AND THEY RECOGNIZED THE NEED FOR UH, YOU KNOW, MORE HOUSING, AND THAT IS EVEN BLOOD OVER INTO NEW ALBANY A LITTLE BIT NOW. I WON'T SAY NOBODY HAS OPENED. WELCOME THIS WITH OPEN ARMS, BUT WE DID HAVE THE HAMLET PROPOSAL THAT I WAS BEFORE YOU WITH SEVERAL MONTHS AGO AND THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL HERE ABOUT SIX WEEKS AGO, AND THAT ALLOWED ABOUT SIX UNITS AN ACRE ON THAT PROJECT, WHICH IS MUCH HIGHER THAN TYPICAL IN NEW ALBANY HAS HAD TO SAY THAT'S A TREND, BUT THERE IS A RECOGNITION THAT THERE'S A HOLE IN THE MARKET OF THIS WAY FOR NOT ONLY WHAT WHAT EMPLOYEES AND YOU KNOW RESIDENCES RESIDENTS THAT WANT TO LIVE OUT HERE ALREADY, BUT WITH INTEL AND ALL THAT'S GOING TO BE ALL THE IMPORTANT THING TO COME ALONG WITH IT AND ITS SUPPLIERS. SITES LIKE THIS ARE GOING TO BE VERY IMPORTANT TO KIND OF FEED THAT BEAST. UM AS I MENTIONED, I
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THINK THE BEST WAY TO UNDERSTAND THE PROJECT LIKE THIS IS TO GO WORK IN TOUCH AND FEEL THE OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT PREFERRED HAS DONE AND I THINK YOU WOULD AGREE NO. ONE NO ONE REALLY DOES IT BETTER. A LOT OF AMENITIES FOR RESIDENTS OF VERY NICE ARCHITECTURAL. UM AND THEY ALL DO IT IN A WAY THAT HAS A TYPICAL DENSITIES THAT WE'RE PROPOSING HERE, WHICH ARE 20 TO 21 UNITS AND EDGAR KNOW WHEN YOU HAVE THAT SIDE A LITTLE EARLIER. THIS SIDE IS ACTUALLY ONE THAT I PREPARED AND I WAS DEMONSTRATING WARNER ROAD PROJECTS, WHICH ARE ROUGHLY THE SAME DENSITY OF WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING HERE AND THEN. 17 MINUTES PER ACRE. I THINK WE'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH THE LIFESTYLE COMMUNITIES PROJECT IS TO THE EAST OF HERE. MULTI FAMILY COMPONENT OF THAT IS IT THAT DENSITY? AND SO THIS IS PRETTY TYPICAL OF REALLY WHAT THE MODERN TREND IS IN TERMS OF THE TYPES OF DENSITY PROJECTS BRING UM GOING OUT WITH YOU HAVE TO THE ARCHITECTURAL SLIDE AT ONE OF THE END. UM I KNOW THAT WHEN WE WERE HERE WITH THE SECOND PROJECT THAT IS GETTING STARTED ON WARNER ROAD. THIS THIS WAS THE BUILDING WE PRESENTED. AND I THINK I KNOW THIS BOARD, IN PARTICULAR WAS PRETTY EXCITED ABOUT THE ARCHITECTURE. UM THIS IS REALLY , UM YOU KNOW, NONE OF THESE ARE COOKIE CUTTER FOR PREFERRED. UM WE SEE THIS BEING IN THE SORT OF THE SAME VERNACULAR ARCHITECTURAL STYLE WITH THIS PROJECT. WE DO BELIEVE THE BRICK AND SOME OF THE COLORING IS GOING TO BE DIFFERENT HERE. WE WANTED TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF HOW THIS WOULD LOOK. AND WE EXPECT BY THE TIME WE COME BACK FROM FORMAL HEARING WILL HAVE MORE INFORMATION IN THAT REGARD. SO UM HERE AGAIN. WE FEEL LIKE THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH THE DENSITY AND THE USES IN THIS AREA, AND IT'S REALLY SERVING A AND IMPORTANT PURPOSE RECOGNIZED BY CITY OF COLUMBUS AND SOME OF THE SUBURBS NOW IN THAT THE EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES AROUND THE AREA I REALLY NEED TO BE SERVED SO WITH THAT I'LL CONCLUDE MY COMMENTS AND THEN JARED AND I WILL PROBABLY TAG TEAM QUESTIONS WHEN WE GET THROUGH ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS.GREAT. THANK YOU. AND I ASSUME THAT WE DO HAVE SOME PUBLIC QUESTIONS. WE JUST HAVE ONE SPEAKER. I BELIEVE SHAWN MORAN. FEEL FREE TO COME ON UP. AND DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH SO HELP YOU GOD ALRIGHT. YEAH. DEFINITELY NOT GOING TO DO IT. SO. RIGHT HERE. MY WIFE AND I, WE HAVE SIX ACRE PROPERTY. RIGHT HERE. UM. APPROXIMATELY RIGHT THERE, SO OBVIOUSLY WOULD BE VERY MUCH AFFECTED BY THIS. UM, DEVELOPMENT SO. AS WELL AS RESIDENTS DIRECTLY IMPACTED BY THIS POTENTIAL PROJECT. I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT WE DO NOT SUPPORT IT. WE FEEL THAT THE DENSITY OF THIS PROJECT APPEARS TO BE APPROXIMATELY FIVE TIMES HIGHER THAN WHAT IS RECOMMENDED IN THE ACCORD. IN IS ONLY STEPS AWAY. FROM A FOOT POINT BECAUSE THE IRAQI FOURTH CREEK CUTS ALL THROUGH THIS IN MY PROPERTY. AND THE ACTUAL FLOODPLAIN. COMES RIGHT UP INTO THIS GENERAL AREA. SO UNTIL RECENTLY, THE PROPERTIES IN THIS AREA HAS BEEN ZONED RURAL. AM THEY OTHER PROPERTIES ALONG? OF CENTRAL COLLEGE STILL HOLD THAT DESIGNATION. AND I THINK OTHER PROPERTIES TOO. THE NORTH. UM SO OBVIOUSLY WE'RE NOT HAPPY TO SEE THIS GOING IN BEHIND US. IT'S A RURAL AREA, LOTS OF WILDLIFE, ETCETERA AND OF COURSE, IT'S RIGHT THERE IN THE WATERSHED. IN THE FLOODPLAIN AREA. BUT HOWEVER , IF IT'S DETERMINED THAT THE PROJECT WILL MOVE FORWARD WE ASKED THAT THE PANEL CAREFULLY CONSIDERS THE PROJECT'S IMPACT.
AND FALLS ALL RECOMMENDED GUIDELINES FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT AND WE WERE HAPPY TO SEE THAT THE DEVELOPER I BELIEVE, HAS COMMITTED ON THE APPLICATION THAT THEY WOULD BE FOLLOWING.
THE GUIDELINES IN THE ACCORD. UM BASICALLY, WE'D LOVE TO SEE, YOU KNOW. THE PRESERVATION OF THE EXISTING WOODLANDS AND THE VEGETATION. TRY TO SAVE THE TREES THAT ARE ALREADY THERE.
I'VE NOTICED THAT THERE'S A LOT OF TREES IN THIS GENERAL AREA THAT THEY'RE ALREADY MARKED WITH RED X'S. NOT SURE BY THAT'S ALREADY HAPPENING BECAUSE SOME OF THESE TREES COULD CERTAINLY BE UTILIZED. AND ONLY FUTURE DEVELOPMENT. UM WE WOULD WANT TO SEE 20 OF BUFFERING. SCREENING FROM HEADLIGHTS. AND ALL EXTERIOR LIGHTING. LANDSCAPE MOUNDS WARS. FENCES. I'M DOING
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EVERYTHING OUT THERE BECAUSE ALL THESE TERMS ARE IN THE ACCORD. AND SO I KNOW THAT'S THE SPIRIT OF THE ACCORD, AND I THINK IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL FOR ALL THE RESIDENTS IF THOSE WERE IMPLEMENTED. I KNOW. PART OF THE MISSION IS TO SCREEN MORE INTENSE USE FROM THOSE LESS INTENSE, IT SAYS RIGHT IN THE ACCORD. THIS WOULD BE AN INTENSE USE. WE ARE LESS IN TERMS, SO CERTAINLY KEEP THAT IN MIND. WE SHOULD TRY TO KEEP ALL EXTERIOR WRITING MINIMAL. AVOID THE SPILL OVER INTO THE RESIDENTIAL AREA. AVOID WAITING. THAT'S OUT OF SCALE WITH THE RESIDENCES. THE BOARD OVER ELIMINATION OF THE STREETS AND MOST ESPECIALLY THE PARKING LOTS. TRY TO USE WARM LIGHTING THAT'S FOCUSED FOCUSED ON ITS INTENDED USE. NOT GOING INTO OUR PROPERTY IS ESSENTIALLY . UM I APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE FOR YEARS. SO AVOID WHITE POLLUTION AT ALL COSTS BECAUSE, LIKE I SAID, THIS IS A RURAL AREA, LOTS OF WILDLIFE AND YOU KNOW THIS IS CERTAINLY GOING TO CHANGE THINGS IF IT MOVES FORWARD. UM SO SCREENING AROUND ANY PARKING, UM. YOU KNOW, AND ALSO THE BUILDING HEIGHTS, YOU KNOW. THREE STORIES IS VERY TALL THRESHOLD. UM ALL SETBACKS, PERMANENT BUILDING LINES. YOU KNOW, JUST TO TRY TO KEEP IT AWAY FROM THE RESIDENTS. SO ALL THESE THINGS I'VE MENTIONED. SOME OF THEM ARE DEBATING RIGHT IN THE ACCORD. UM WE CERTAINLY HOPE THAT EVERYONE DOES THEIR DUE DILIGENCE. TWO. REALLY THE SPIRIT OF THE ACCORD. AND EVERYTHING THAT IT STANDS FOR. AND THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE NEARBY DIRECTLY IMPACTED BY THIS . THERE'S A LOT OF RUN OFF, YOU KNOW, INTO BEFORE CREEK. AS IT STANDS, WE'RE GETTING MORE FLOODING THAN WE'RE USED TO, BECAUSE THERE'S JUST BEEN AN EXPLOSION OF DENSITY AND JUST BECAUSE WE'VE HAD SIMILAR PROJECTS WITH HIGH DENSITY I MEAN, PRESIDENT. HIGHER DENSITY JUST NEEDS TO GO ON AND ON AND ON. BECAUSE I THINK WE'RE JUST LOSING THE GIRL AESTHETIC. AT THE AREA, SO I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. AND THAT WILL. GIVE GIVE YOU A CHANCE TO RESPOND. ERIN. WELL UM, CERTAINLY, I THINK MAYBE I WILL GET YOUR INFORMATION AND TALK TO YOU. ABOUT WHAT WE CAN DO IN TERMS OF HELPING SCREENING BLOOD FOR YOUR PROPERTY THERE, AND I THINK THAT'S MIKE MENTIONED IN HIS PRESENTATION. THAT'S ONE OF THE GOOD THINGS ABOUT THIS CONCEPT CLAIMS. WE GET THE KIND OF GO FACE TO FACE WITH THOSE WHO HAVE AN INTEREST HERE. BE HAPPY TO SIT DOWN HERE NEXT THROUGH THIS WE CAN GIVE THEM MORE DETAIL AND WHAT THAT'S GOING TO BE. I THINK AS FAR AS THE ACCORD STANDARDS ARE CONCERNED, RIGHT NOW, WE ARE AT AN 82% ON THE FIRST GO ROUND OF THE SCORECARD. I WOULD BE VERY SURPRISED IF WE'RE NOT UP NEAR 90 OR OVER 90% WHEN WE COME BACK. GIVEN APARTMENTS OF THE STAFF HAS GIVEN US I DON'T THINK ANY OF THOSE AT ALL. GIVE US ANY HEARTBURN. UM YOU KNOW THE ONE WE ARE GOING TO BE PROTECTING THE CREEK THERE. UM WE'RE INTENTIONALLY TAKING ALL THE BUILDINGS AND DEVELOPMENT OUT OF THE FLOODPLAIN. UM YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO DO A LEISURE TRAIL OF SOME SORT IN THAT AREA . WHERE WORLD INTO THAT DISCUSSION DEFINITELY AND UNDERSTAND THE MERITS BEHIND IT UNDERSTAND THE IMPACTS ON FEDERAL PERMITTING. THINGS LIKE THAT. THAT CAN GET YOU KNOW.KIND OF INTRICATE AND COMPLICATED, BUT THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY GONNA STOP US. WE NEED TO STUDY IT MORE. UM I THINK THAT YOU KNOW THAT THAT SCORE SHEET IS PRETTY UNIQUE IN THAT NO OTHER SORT OF AREA COMMISSIONER OR PANEL OR BOARD THAT I GO TO IN IN CENTRAL OHIO REALLY HAS THAT, AND I THINK THAT'S A GREAT WAY FOR, YOU KNOW , I THINK IT'S THREE OR FOUR PAGES WORTH OF STANDARDS. AND SO WHEN WE COME BACK, WE HOPE WILL BE CHECKING MORE BOXES OR MAKING THOSE PARTIALS AND FOALS WHICH I GUESS WILL BE EVIDENCE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO MEET SOME OF THE REQUIREMENTS THAT MR MORAN MENTIONED SO BECAUSE THAT'S ALL I HAVE ON THAT. DID WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE PANEL? HI ERIN. UM I WOULD SAY, MAYBE ON THE NEXT SUBMITTAL CLEARLY SHOW WHAT THE FLOODPLAIN IS WHAT THE SCREAM CORRIDOR PROTECTION ZONE IS AND THEN WHATEVER IS WIDER.
STAY OUT OF IT. YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MR CHECKING CORRECT. ERIN. FIRST OF ALL, YOU'RE NOT REQUESTING A VARIANCE TO THE HIGH DISTRICT. THIS IS ALREADY A 35 FT DISTRICT. SORRY. HI KAREN SMITH FOR THE APPLICANT. I NOTICED THIS MORNING, IT SAID 60, AND I
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THINK THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN AN AREA. IT IS A 35 FT HEIGHT DISTRICT, WILL WE? I AM HAPPY TO STAY WITHIN THAT. 35 FT HEIGHT DISTRICT HAS THREE STORED. OKAY CLARIFY THAT IS DISHONEST, THREE STORY BUILDINGS. THERE'S NOT A WITH A REALLY IS DIFFERENT FROM THE PREVIOUS APPLICATION WHERE THEY WERE LOOKING TO GO TO 40 FT. BUT I THINK THAT I MEAN AND JUST IMPORT DISCLOSURE DATE. DO YOU KNOW THIS? UH I SHOULD SAY THE RULES. IT'S 35 FT. TO THE MEDIA LIKE MEDIAN OF THE ROOF. I THINK THEY HAVE A HIGHER PORTION OF THE ROOF CAN EXCEED THAT AS LONG AS THE AVERAGE AVERAGE MEDIAN HEIGHT OF THAT ROOF WHEN IT'S A CABLE GROUPS WITH HEADLINES. OKAY WE ARE NOT ASKING FOR THAT. AND WE CAN MAKE THAT CORRECTION FOR THE NEXT TIME AROUND THAT IT IS 35 PLACES. LIKE THIS GREAT SO SORRY FOR THE GOOD PEOPLE ON THAT. THAT'S OKAY. UM YOU HEARD MY QUESTION EARLIER TO MIKE ABOUT PAYERS WE GROW AND DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY. DO YOU HAVE ANY? EVEN THOUGH YOU'RE DOWN THE STREET FROM UPPER WE'RE GOING TO BE SUBJECTED TO ALL OF THAT, I THINK WILL BE PART OF THE AUTHORITY AND WILL BE A PAY AS WE GROW. $2300, A UNIT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ACTUAL POLICY SAYS, FRANKLY, BUT I CAN TELL YOU YOU'VE NOTICED THE APARTMENTS GOING UP THE NEWER APARTMENTS ACROSS FROM HQ FLATS, AND THAT WAS ALL PART OF ONE ZONING THAT I DID 2015. AND ALL OF THAT SUBJECT TO THE SAME THINGS. AND SO IT WOULD SURPRISE ME IF THIS WEREN'T AND I THINK, JARED TO CONFIRM THAT WE WILL BE PAYING THE PERSON THAT AND THE FORMAL CHARGE. ALL TRAFFIC ACCESS IS FROM HARLEM ROAD TO THIS PROJECT. UM IS THERE AN EMERGENCY EGRESS OR JUST THE ONE ENTRANCE THERE? WE JUST COMPLETED OUR ONE STOP SHOP WITH THE CITY IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. WE THIS SITE HAS EVOLVED A LITTLE BIT, BUT ON ITS PURPOSE IS WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IS WHAT IT IS, I BELIEVE IT'S ON THE NORTH SIDE. NOW WE'VE MOVED BUILDING ONE DOWN A LITTLE BIT, AND THERE IS AN EMERGENCY ACCESS. AH SECONDARY ACCESS, BUT ALL IN AND OUT RESIDENTIAL TRAFFIC ACCESS FROM OKAY? UM AND THEN JUST JUST FOR CONFUSION, STATES. I SEE IT THERE. IT GOES RIGHT TO YOUR PRODUCT. THAT BOX THAT YOU SEE IN THE LINE. THAT'S A LARGE PACKET. JUST STOP LIKE OUR YEAH. THIS IS THE BOX HERE. NO SURE. YEAH. RICHARD BREAK THEIR PARALLEL, OKAY? AND I NOTICED THE POWER LINE ON GOOGLE MAPS THAT I WAS TRYING TO CONFIRM WHERE THAT WAS LOCATED. OKAY ACTUALLY, IT SAYS ON THERE WERE 100 FT. EAST. FOR POWER LINES THAT RUN WELL, SO WE ARE NOT CROSSED. WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF PARKING UNDERNEATH IT, BUT WE ARE NOT CROSSING. DOES THAT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE TREES THAT WERE MARKED FOR CLEARANCE THAT REMARK REMARKABLE TREES THAT HAD A LARGER THAN PREVIOUS CARRIERS. FOR A TREE STUDY. YOU GUYS ALWAYS ASK ME FOR THAT. I'LL BE READY TO BUY NEXT. BUT NOT NECESSARILY VERY UNFAIR.THAT WOULD BE RIGHT? I COULD PROBABLY THINK OF ANOTHER QUESTION. BUT I'M GOING TO DEFER TO MY COLLEAGUES HERE. I THANK YOU. THIS IS IN FRONT OF SCHOOLS . UH YEAH, I WANT TO MAKE SURE ERIN. UM I NOTICED THAT, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY AGAIN. THIS IS, UH THERE IS AS THE PREVIOUS APPLICATION THERE WASN'T THERE WERE APPLYING FOR ANNEXATION. THIS ONE IS CURRENTLY NOT IS THAT CORRECT? IT IS. IT'S IN PROCESS. OKAY SO TYPICALLY, YOU KNOW, THE ANNEXATION PROCESS IN OHIO. THERE WAS LIKE FIVE DIFFERENT WAYS YOU CAN DO IT, AND THE MOST TYPICAL ARE CALLED AN EXPEDITED PROCEDURE. AND SO YOU CAN WITH SOME RELATIVE CERTAINTY. YOU CAN KIND OF PENCIL OUT WHAT THE WHAT THE TIMING IS GOING TO BE. WE TRY TO TIME OUR ZONING APPLICATIONS SO THAT WE CAN GET THE ANNEXATION AND THE ZONING TO CITY COUNCIL ON THE SAME NIGHT, AND YOU KNOW IF WE'RE ABLE IN THAT WAY, THEY CAN MAKE A DECISION ON BOTH. SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE YOU KNOW, SEVERAL MONTHS AWAY FROM THAT, OBVIOUSLY, BUT THE HOPE OF PEOPLE WHO WOULD MARRY THOSE THINGS UP TO THE VERY END, AND THAT'S VERY TYPICAL. HOW IT'S DONE. IS THIS THREE AGAIN? I FORGOT. TWO OR THREE. REALIZED 11, OKAY?
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IN THE NUANCE THERE IS DEPENDING ON SO THE OTHER PERSON WAS PROBABLY AN EXTRA LONG TIME AGO, AND THE PROCEDURES ARE DIFFERENT NOW. SO IT WAS A LONG STANDING AGREEMENT BETWEEN COLUMBUS TOWNSHIP, NEW ALBANY, ABOUT HOW ANNEXATIONS ARE GOING TO OCCUR AND BUT THAT WILL BE RESULT WILL BE FOR THE TOWNSHIP. SO I BELIEVE HERE. THE END RESULT IS THAT THE REMAINS OF THE TOWNSHIP TAXATION PURPOSES. THE OLD ONE DIDN'T SO WE HAVE TO HAVE SEPARATE PARCELS CAN BE TAXED DIFFERENTLY BECAUSE THEY'RE IN DIFFERENT SPIRITS. CAN YOU MAY NOT HAVE AN ANSWER TO THIS QUESTION. BUT WHAT DO YOU KNOW ABOUT THE RED XS ON THE TREES? THE ACCIDENT. YOU GOT THAT? OKAY THERE. WE WERE MARKING ALL THE TREES THAT WERE THREE INCHES AND GOT YOU GOT YOU TREE STUFF.FORGIVE ME. THANK YOU. MIKE. YEAH, I HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS. UM ON THE POWER LINES BACK HERE, YOU SAY IT'S 100 FT EASEMENT. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'VE DONE ANYTHING WITH THIS ONE YET, BUT THE POWER LINES THAT GO ACROSS THE BACK OF MY FARM. THEY HAVE JUST EXTENDED IT. ANOTHER 30 FT.
15 FT ON EACH SIDE. AND SO NEXT SUMMER, THEY'LL BE COMING IN AND CLEAR CUTTING THAT AREA BACK ANOTHER 15 FT. BECAUSE OF THE. THE TREES CLOSE TO THE TO THE CAROLINES AND I NOTICED HOW CLOSE THAT ONE BUILDING IS TO YOUR RIGHT AWAY. YOU MAY WANT TO DOUBLE CHECK AND MAKE SURE THEY'RE NOT GETTING READY TO DROP THAT ON THAT POWER LINE ALSO YEAH. IT'S ACTUALLY FUNNY.
YOU MENTION THAT I REVIEWED A REQUEST FOR A FRIEND AT THE SAME SAYING 30 FT REQUEST SO I WOULD ASSUME THAT YOU GOT A SECOND LETTER IN THE MAIL BABY REQUESTING AN INCREASE IN THE SIZE OF 30. PRETTY MUCH, YES. SO TO OUR KNOWLEDGE, THAT INCREASE HAS NOT HAPPENED ON THIS PROPERTY OR THE REQUEST FOR THIS HAS NOT HAPPENED YET. E EASEMENTS ON THIS AREA, HOWEVER , AND IN THIS AREA FOR VERY OLD EASEMENTS. THEY DON'T CURRENTLY ALLOW FOR EXPANSION. BUT YES, THAT WOULD BE VERY OLD. YEAH IT ALLOWED IT SO THIS ONE DOES NOT CURRENTLY ALLOW THAT EXTENSION.
BUT I WILL DOUBLE CHECK BECAUSE BECAUSE OF THE CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THE EDGE OF THE EASEMENT. I'M JUST TRYING TO TELL YOU THAT YOU MAY HAVE TO OVER AT 15 FT. THE TOUGHEST PART OF THESE BUILDINGS ARE THE WORST PART OF THIS IS YOU KNOW YOU GET THESE THE BUILT UP AREAS AND THEN A P WILL COME IN. AND JUST CLEAR. CUT DOWN THAT EASEMENT AREA THAT HAPPENED OVER AT THOMPSON ROAD. THEY HADN'T TOUCHED IT FOR PROBABLY TWO DECADES AND THEN ALL THE STORMS CAME THROUGH, AND AP GOT KIND OF TROUBLE, BUT YOU GOT A LOT OF GRIEF ABOUT POWER LINES AND TREES AND THEY WENT THROUGH ALL THEIR EASTERN AREAS LAST SUMMER. REALLY CARE CUT A MICRO LEVEL. THEY DID THAT MY BACKYARD AT TWO O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING AFTER A STORM AND WE COULD HEAR THE ASPELIN PEOPLE OUT THERE GOING WELL, THEY'RE GOING TO BE SURPRISED IN THE MORNING. SO YES , I UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT YOU MEAN. BUT I'LL JUST OKAY. OKAY THE OTHER THING. QUESTIONS SLASH CONCERNS. I HAVE WELL, ONE OF THEM AND I WAS GLAD TO HEAR YOU SPEAK TO THE FACT THAT YOU THINK YOU CAN BRING THE RATING UP FROM AN 82% BECAUSE WHEN I WENT THROUGH THE THING THERE, I SAW A 13 LINES THAT WERE MOST LIKELY WILL BE DONE. WELL THAT THAT ISN'T THE WHOLE LOT OF CONFIDENCE FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE AREA. WELL, WE MIGHT DO IT. YOU KNOW THAT. THAT DOESN'T HELP TOO MUCH, SO I'D LIKE TO SEE A LITTLE MORE SPECIFICITY. SPECIFICITY ON AND GETTING THAT GRADE UP BECAUSE BACK IN THE OLD DAYS. AN 82 IS A LOW GRADE FOR THIS GROUP. SO IN IN THE THINGS THAT YOU BROUGHT BEFORE US IN THE PAST HAVE BEEN IN MY OPINION QUALITY PRODUCTS, SO THAT HELPS HELPS ME ON THAT PART, BUT THE OTHER THING I HAVE IS WANTING TO THE VARIOUS MOVING CLOSER TO THE ROAD. WHEN I FIRST GLANCED AT IT, MY FIRST THOUGHT WAS WELL, WHY IN THE HECK ARE THEY SO CLOSE TO THE ROAD? HARLEM ROADS ALREADY A NARROW ROAD THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PUT IN A TURN LANE. WHICH IS GOING TO MOVE WHAT APPEARS NOW TO BE A REASONABLE ABOUT THE DISTANCE. BACK AND WHAT DOES THAT DO FOR THE RECORD UNQUOTE CORRIDOR COMING DOWN THROUGH HERE? IT'S ALSO MUCH CLOSER TO THE ROAD THAN ANY OF THE OTHER PROPERTIES. EVEN THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ON ON THIS SIDE.
AND THEN ALSO BY HAVING SOMETHING LIKE THIS, HOW DOES THAT IMPACT THE SINGLE FAMILY? HOME IS DOWN HERE ON THE SOUTH BECAUSE WHAT WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO? THEY CAN'T SELL THEIRS FOR AN APARTMENT BUILDING. EVEN IF THEY PUT ALL OF THEM TOGETHER. I DON'T THINK THAT THEY'D BE ABLE TO GET THE APPROVAL FROM THE DEPTH OF THE LOTS TO TRY TO PUT IN APARTMENT BUILDINGS, SO I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED AS TO HOW IT IS DIRECTLY IMPACTING THE NEIGHBORS
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AROUND THEM. OH, YEAH. ASKED ME A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS THERE. I GUESS WE'LL START ONE QUESTION BECAUSE I DIDN'T PUT A QUESTION MARK IT UNTIL THE JUST RUN ON SENTENCE. I AGREE THERE ENOUGH.I WILL COME BACK WITH THE SPECIFICS ON DISTANCE FROM ROAD AND RIGHT AWAY. IT'S ACTUALLY INTERESTING BECAUSE IN OUR ONE STOP SHOP MEETING I TRIED TO GIVE TOO MUCH RIGHT AWAY TO THE CITY OF COLUMBUS, AND THEY SAID , I DIDN'T NEED TO GIVE THEM THAT MUCH. SO I WAS MISTAKEN BY NOT MUCH WITH KENNETH E. UM SO I WILL GET YOU THE CURRENT DISTANCE FROM THE EXISTING ROAD FRONTAGE TO WHERE OUR BUILDING WILL BE BY THE NEXT TIME. JUST SO YOU OKAY PERCEPTION OF THAT, OBVIOUSLY, A LOT OF THE HOUSES. ARE THERE ANY PLANS AT THIS POINT TO WIDEN? HARLEM ROAD FROM CENTRAL COLLEGE TO WALNUT. NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE, HOWEVER, I CAN TELL YOU I HAVE A TRAFFIC STUDY.
THAT ARE A TRAFFIC ACCESS STUDY THAT I NEED TO COMPLETE AS PART OF THIS. IT WILL BE DONE BY THE NEXT MEETING. UM AND I CAN JUST TELL YOU WHAT ALL THE LIFE YEAH , BECAUSE NO ONE NECESSARILY WANTS TO PUT IN A TURN LANE BUT WITH 288 UNITS OR 300 UNITS, 300 IS WHAT WAS ON WE ARE GONNA END UP PUTTING IN TERMS. JUST IS THE REALITY OF THE SITUATION. RIGHT WHERE. COME HERE FOR ASKING STRENGTH.
YOU. SORRY. FACE THE MICROPHONE. THAT'S OKAY. I'M HAPPY WITH AH, THE CITY OF COLUMBUS. WHENEVER YOU DO A RESELLING THEY TAKE THAT OPPORTUNITY, OF COURSE ALTITUDE. TO AFRICA. ADDITIONAL SO IF THERE IS NOT. RESEMBLING ON THE PROPERTY OR AN ACTIVE REQUESTS ON THE PROPERTY. THE RESULT. THEY WENT THERE TO DO AND IMMINENT. THE MAN THANK YOU EMINENT DOMAIN. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO STOP. THERE IS NO LIGHTWEIGHT. FIVE. CREATED TURN LANE. IT HAS TO BE ON YOUR RIGHT AWAY ITSELF, OR DID THIS PART ADDITIONAL. QUICK QUESTION ON THE FLOODPLAIN OR THE WETLAND AND THE AREA THAT'S NOT BEING BUILT ON. YOU DID A GOOD JOB OF SHIFTING OBVIOUSLY DEVELOPMENT TO THE EAST. IS THERE ANYTHING? IS THAT GOING TO BE KEPT NATURAL OR ANY PLANS TO, UM, TRAIL OR SOMETHING? I'M JUST CURIOUS IF YOU'RE GOING TO GO IN COUNTRIES OR WHATEVER. I HAVE NO I SHOULD SAY I HAVE NO DESIRE TO BE ON UH , THIS WILL BE KEPT NATURAL PROTECTION. THERE WAS A REQUEST.
IN THE REPORT TRAIL. I AM HAPPY. TO WORK THROUGH THAT WITH CITY STAFF. WITH NEIGHBORS ANYONE ELSE BUT I'VE OFTEN FOUND WHEN YOU ALTHOUGH IT'S PRETTY, AND IT SOUNDS GOOD WHEN YOU GET INTO THE COURT AREA, AND YOU GET IN WETLANDS IN STREAM AREA, DOING THOSE KIND OF THINGS. GETS VERY PAPERWORK MESSY. AND EVERYONE ENDS UP UNHAPPY AT THE END. WELL, I JUST KNOW FROM THE EARLIER EARLIER COMMENTS THERE WAS MENTIONED THERE'S A LOT OF WILDLIFE AND YOU'D LIKE TO KEEP MORE NATURAL ANYWAY, SO I JUST WANTED TO. I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT IF THAT AREA IS GOING TO BE TOUCHED AND THE OTHER THING IS ZONING WE'RE ASKING FOR IS A STRAIGHT HAVE THIS COMPANION FOR THE COUNCIL VARIANTS OF THIS WHERE YOU CAN BRING IT ALONG. OUTFITS ZONING AND THAT IS THE VEHICLE BY WHICH WE WILL CONNECT TO THE SITE PLAN. SO UM, YOU KNOW, WE'LL HAVE ONE MEDICINE. YOU KNOW, IT'S PUT IT BACK IF IT HASN'T MENTIONED. BUT SO THAT WHAT YOU SEE IS WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO GET. IN THE END THE MECHANISM BY WHICH WE'RE DOING THAT IS THE COUNCIL VARIANTS SO NOW THIS IS SHOWN AS AN OPEN AREA IS GOING TO REMAIN OPEN AREA. WE DIDN'T REGISTER, NOT TOUCHING TRADITION. OKAY BECAUSE AS FAR AS RETENTION PONDS OR ANYTHING FOR AGAIN ADDRESSING THE DRAINAGE ISSUES OR AN INCREASED , THERE ISN'T ANY GOING TO BE
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ANY RETENTION POND OR ANYTHING BUILT BACK THERE WERE STILL FINISHING UP PRETENSION CONVERSATIONS. I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE A COMPLIMENT. COMBINATION UNDERGROUND INTENTION, WHICH I'VE DONE A LOT OF PROJECTS WHERE THE BIG CYLINDER AND GRAPH PAPER UNDERGROUND. AND A SMALL RETENTION POND, POSSIBLY IMPORTANT. THE BACK LAST I LOOKED AT IT. DESTROYING UPPER LEFT CORNER AREA. UH BECAUSE I NEED TO STAY OUT OF THE QUESTION. CAN YOU BELIEVE BUT IN THE FLOODPLAIN, SO JUST KIND OF LOOKING AT THOSE BORDERS AND HOW THAT WOULD WORK. SO THANKS. CAN YOU SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE? THANK YOU. THANKS, CHELSEA. THAT'S. THE PORTION OF IT BESIDES JUST THE SCALE OF EVERYTHING. THAT YOU KNOW, SCARES US THE MOST BECAUSE WE JUST IMAGINED SIGHTLINES OF FOR US AND LIGHTING. CARS EVERYTHING A BUDDING UP AGAINST OUR PROPERTY LINE. SO WE'RE JUST YOU KNOW, HOW CAN THAT SCREENING.NORMAL PROPERTY. IS THIS YOUR PROPERTY JUST FOR PROBABLY AT THE END OF THAT, RIGHT WHERE THEY ARE RIGHT? THE PROPERTY. YEAH. OH, YOU'RE HERE. SO NORMALLY IN THESE CIRCUMSTANCES , WHAT I RECOMMEND OR I HAVE NO IDEA. WE FOCUSED OUR GREEN SPACE, TOO. IN BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS IN THE MIDDLE OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE TO USE. UM UM. PERIMETER GUARD ALWAYS SOUND GOOD, BUT ALL THEY ARE. ONGOING AREAS WHERE FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE, SO WHAT I'VE DONE IN THE CIRCUMSTANCES IS I PUT THE GARAGE ADDITIONAL BARRIERS, OBVIOUSLY SINGLE STORY VARIETY BY THE CITY COUNCIL. THE ENTIRE SYSTEM. AH! CONTINUE TO PRACTICE AND IN BETWEEN THE DRIVE BUILDINGS LIKE WHERE YOU SEE PEOPLE IN THE LAST 12 WELL CONNECTED BUILDINGS, SIX FT FASTENED BENEFIT. SO HYPOTHETICALLY, IT GIVES THE ILLUSION THAT YOU HAVE AN ADDITIONAL 25 MY PEOPLE DON'T. THE NATURAL ORDER. ADDITIONAL BOX. YOU KNOW SOMETHING? WE'RE SENSITIVE ON THIS SIDE, OBVIOUSLY IS, YOU KNOW YEAH. SO AH! PART PART, OBVIOUSLY CENTRALIZED BUILDINGS. IT MUST BE ALL RIGHT. IT'S GREAT. YOU KNOW, WITHIN REASON. ON THE OUTSIDE. THIS IS THE WAY OUR ABILITY POSSIBLE. SO JUST I MEAN, MOSTLY, THOUGH.
SURE. OPEN IMPORTANT MORE CERTAINLY. AND I THINK WE CAN TURN THE CORNER WITH SOME OF THAT. YEAH, I'M HOPING TO USUALLY MAKING SURE THE WORK ON OUR LOT BY PLAN. UM, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT SOMETHING THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE HE COULD DOWN. NO. HEART BALANCE. AH! BECAUSE I. I WOULDN'T LIKE THAT PLACES LIKE YEAH, FOR FAITH. RIGHT, UM BUT I WANNA BE RESPECTFUL. YOU GUYS PUT IT. KEEPING A LOT SO. THIS IS THIS IS A QUESTION MORE FOR CURIOSITY THAN ANYTHING ELSE, AND I KNOW IN A LOT OF PLACES THEY'RE USING NOW LED LIGHTING THAT ISN'T JUST LED LIGHTING. BUT IT ALSO REDUCES. I'M SORRY, REDUCES IN VOLUME AND LIGHTING WHEN THERE'S NO MOTION DETECTED IN THE AREA. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT IS APPROPRIATE OR YOU THINK COULD BE APPROPRIATE HERE. WE WORK A LOT WITH LOCAL EXPERT I'M HAPPY TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH HIM BECAUSE I THINK OF THIS CIRCUMSTANCE. I THINK, ESPECIALLY ALONG THE BACK PERIMETER AND THAT QUARTERBACK THERE. I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. IT WOULD SEEM TO BE HELPFUL TO SORT OF MAINTAIN THAT RURAL FEEL HERE. COLUMBUS REALLY DOESN'T LIKE MOTION CENSORED.
LIGHTING. BUT IF IT'S A KIND OF A I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU THOUGHT IT WAS. IT STAYS IN POWER THREE UNTIL THERE'S A MOTION EXACTLY 10 TYPE SCENARIO. IT'S A LITTLE WEIRD. I WORK AT CHEMICAL ABSTRACTS AND I GO OUT TO MY CAR AND THE LIGHTS LIGHT UP AS I WALK ACROSS THE PARK LOT, BUT
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YOU CAN SEE EXACTLY YEAH. I'M HAPPY TO EXPLORE THAT, I THINK MIGHT BE SOMETHING TO JUST A QUICK NOTE. THAT ACCORD DOES ALLOW FOR MOTION SENSOR TABULATING COURT. AND SO YOU.OKAY WELL, OUR BEAT THAT OKAY? YEAH AND HE WOULD SAY THE ENERGY AS WELL. SO YEAH. THANK YOU.
WHAT I'VE GOT ONE OTHER COMMENT ON THE. PATH OR PATHS, WHATEVER . UH HISTORICALLY SPEAKING IN, UH, FOR OR DAVE? EXCUSE ME, CAN YOU CAN YOU VERIFY THIS OR NOT WHAT WE WORKING TOWARDS GETTING A WALKWAY ALONG ROCKY FORK CREEK FROM JOHANNA TO THE METRO PARKS. AND THEN UP TO THIS POINT. WE'VE BEEN PRETTY MUCH FOLLOWING IT ALONG. I THINK BRAD WEST HALL WITH COLUMBUS RECREATION PARKS, IF YOU HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH HIM ABOUT I'M FAMILIAR WITH BRAD , BUT IT'S FROM DOING WORK ON THE OTHER SIDE OF TOWN. I NOW I HAVE NOT HAD ANY CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM THINKING THAT I'M THINKING THAT THE DEVELOPMENT BETWEEN HAMILTON'S ROAD AND ROCKY FORK. THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE PUT IN, AND MY QUESTION WAS GOING TO BE, IF, IN FACT, THE PATH WHERE IT'S GOING ON THE WEST SIDE OF ROCKY FORK CREEK. ARE YOU AGREEABLE TO PUTTING IT A BRIDGE SO THAT YOUR 300 UNITS CAN WALK THE BLOCKING PATH ON UP TO THE METRO PARKS. IN THE PAST. WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THAT CIRCUMSTANCE IS ACTUALLY WE DID A WE DID A SIMILAR CIRCUMSTANCE WHEN WE DID OUR PROJECT DOWN ON GOODELL BOULEVARD IN THAT AREA RELATED TO WALKING PATH ALONG THE RIVER.
IS IT WAS TO BE DESIGNED AND CREATED THAT SOMETIME AND WHAT WE DID THERE WAS WE GAVE THE CITY A PARK EVENING. OKAY PATH, AND THAT WORKED BECAUSE THE DESIGN THE STYLE ALL THOSE THINGS. YOU HEAR ME? OK CITY THAT'S SOMETHING SPECIFIC PROJECTS OBVIOUSLY WASN'T DON EVANS. THE COORDINATES PART LINE DEDICATION FEES FOR THE CITY. I'M HAPPY TO AGAIN EXPLORE THOSE OBVIOUSLY DIFFERENT FACTORS. GIVE MY PIECE, BUT IT'S KIND OF LIKE SIDEWALK SLOPED AREAS WHERE YOU GET SIDEWALK. I WRITE. HOPEFULLY THAT WAY. OKAY? JUST ONE LAST QUESTION IF I COULD, AND THAT WAS JUST TO CONFIRM IN THESE AREAS BETWEEN THE PARKING GARAGES OR STALLS IF YOU WILL.
UH FOLKS ARE NOT PERMITTED TO LIKE PARKER BOAT THERE OR SOMETHING, AND THIS IS NOT AVAILABLE FOR PARKING IN THESE AREAS. IS THAT RIGHT BACK? THAT WAS IN THE WELL THE VICINITY OF THE 11 AND THE 12 AND SO FORTH. THIS AREA BETWEEN THE STRUCTURES IS THAT PARKING OR IS THAT. YEAH THEY ARE PARKING SPOTS. OKAY OKAY, OKAY. ALL RIGHT, UH, BASKET WEAVE. OKAY FAMILIAR WITH IT, OBVIOUSLY, FROM A STREETLIGHT PERSPECTIVE AND AGAIN WHAT ADDITIONAL TREATIES.
PLANTED IN THAT 25 FT. SETBACK HERE AND THERE. AND OBVIOUSLY CREDIT STATUS. THE FIRST WOULD MANAGE. 25 FT SETBACK AREA. CLEARING AND WHEN YOU'RE CUTTING IT ROADS YOUR BUILT IN GARAGES.
25 GETS A LITTLE TIGHT DISTURBANCE IN THAT SMALL SPACE . I THINK SPECIFICALLY MARKING TREES IN SOME CASES, NOT ALL THE 300 CALORIES. LARGER ONE. SOMETIMES WE'RE ABLE TO SAVE THOSE IN THAT AREA. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. OKAY WELL, JUST A REMINDER. THIS IS THE CONCEPTUAL REVIEW, SO ALL OF THESE ITEMS ARE TAKEN UNDER CONSIDERATION AND WILL BE PRESENTED. AT OUR AT A FUTURE DATE. WHENEVER THAT IS. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. UM, IS THERE ANY OTHER BUSINESS TO DISCUSS. YES SO THE TAYLOR FARM PARK ON EAST DUBLIN. GRANVILLE ROAD. WE'VE HAD A LOT OF, UM BOARD MEMBERS ON OTHER BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS HERE IN NEW ALBANY REQUESTS TO TAKE A TOUR OF THE EXISTING HOUSE ON THE PROPERTY. THERE ARE CONCEPTUAL PLANS RIGHT NOW FOR THE PARK TO BE RENOVATED. SO WE'RE HAVING AN OPEN HOUSE ON JANUARY 30TH AND WE WILL SEND AN EMAIL TOMORROW. UM WITH LIKE A MORE FORMAL INVITE WITH ALL THE INFORMATION. UM JANUARY 30TH FROM 3 TO 5 WILL BE THE OPEN HOUSE AND YOU GUYS ARE ALL INVITED, AND I JUST WANTED TO
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PUT A PLUG IN TONIGHT BEFORE YOU GET THE EMAIL TOMORROW. I DON'T KNOW. YES. YEAH. YES. NO, THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, UM, MOTION FOR ADJOURNMENT. IN A SECOND* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.