Feb 22, 2023 Planning Commission

[I. Call to order]

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ARE WE READY TO START? WELL, I USED TO SAY MY WATCH SHOW SEVEN. BUT NOW I SEE MY PHONE SHOWS SEVEN. SO LET'S OPEN THE MEETING. WE HAVE THE CALL TO ORDER, PLEASE. THAT'S ME, AND WE GOT THE ROLL CALL, PLEASE. FOR THE PUBLIC RECORD, PLEASE, JOHN AND SPEAK DIRECTLY INTO YOUR MICROPHONE'S THANK YOU. MR KIRBY. MR WALLACE, PRESIDENT. MISS BRIGGS. HERE MR. LARSON PRESENT. MR. SCHELL, PRESIDENT. WE HAVE FOUR MEMBERS PRESENT. WE HAVE A QUORUM. THANK YOU. FIRST

[III. Action of Minutes]

[IV. Additions or corrections to agenda]

[VI. Cases]

THE OVERALL SITE CONSISTS OF EIGHT PARCELS AND IS LOCATED WITHIN LICKING COUNTY. THE SITE IS LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF BEACH ROAD NORTH OF FITZWILLIAM ROAD AND SOUTH OF THE RECENTLY APPROVED BUSINESS AND COMMERCE ZONING DISTRICT. THE NEIGHBORING USES AND ZONING DISTRICTS INCLUDE LG AND UNINCORPORATED AGRICULTURAL AND RESIDENTIAL. THE REQUEST PROPOSES TO CREATE A NEW LIMITATION TEXT FOR THE AREA KNOWN AS NORTH EAST BUSINESS PARK ZONING DISTRICT AND WILL BE ZONED LIMITED GENERAL EMPLOYMENT. THE PROPOSED REZONING SERVES AS AN EXPANSION TO THE NEW ALBANY INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK. THIS INCLUDES THE SAME USES IN DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AS THE SURROUNDING LG . THESE PERMITTED USES INCLUDE MANUFACTURING AND PRODUCTION.

GENERAL OFFICE ACTIVITIES, WAREHOUSE AND DISTRIBUTION, DATA CENTERS AND RESEARCH AND PRODUCTION USES. THE SUBJECT. PARCELS ARE CURRENTLY BEING ANNEXED INTO THE CITY, AND THE ANNEXATION IS SCHEDULED FOR ITS FIRST READING BY CITY COUNCIL ON MARCH 7TH. THE ZONING TEXT WOULD CREATE THE SAME OR SIMILAR STANDARDS AS SURROUNDING LG DISTRICTS. HE'S ONLY IN TEXT PERMITS 65 FT TALL BUILDINGS. HISTORICALLY THE COMMISSION HAS APPROVED 65 FT TALL HEIGHT CAPS ON COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. HOWEVER, RECENTLY THE COMMISSION HAS BEEN APPROVING LIMITED EMPLOYMENT DISTRICTS WITH 80 TO 85 FT LIMITATIONS. SINCE THE SITE IS ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL USES. THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO KEEP THE 65 FT HEIGHT LIMITATION THAT IS TYPICALLY USED WHEN ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL THEATER THE TEXT DOES PROPOSE FORESIGHTED SCREENING FOR SIGHT AND SOUND OF ROOFTOP MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT. THE TEXT ESTABLISHES SIMILAR OR

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THE SITE IS LOCATED AND ENGAGE NEW ALBANY STRATEGIC PLANS. NORTHEAST AREA ADDENDUM.

EMPLOYMENT CENTER LAND USE CATEGORY. THE TEXT MEET STANDARDS IN THE STRATEGIC PLAN , AND IT'S CONSISTENT WITH OTHER PORTIONS OF THE BUSINESS PARK. SHOULD THE PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVED THE APPLICATION STAFF RECOMMENDS THE CONDITION THAT THE CITY ENGINEERS COMMENTS BE ADDRESSED AT THE TIME OF ENGINEERING PERMITTING, SUBJECT TO STAFF APPROVAL. AND WITH THAT I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU ANY IMMEDIATE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF FROM ANY COMMISSION MEMBERS. IS THERE ANY ENGINEERING? YES SO, WHEN AVAILABLE, PROVIDE VERIFICATION THAT ALL OHIO E. P A. AND AMERICAN CORPS OF ENGINEERS PERMITTING REQUIREMENTS HAVE BEEN MET. WE RECOMMEND THAT ALL PROPOSED PRIVATE ROADS ARE CONSTRUCTED IN ACCORDANCE WITH PUBLIC ROAD STANDARDS. WE CONCUR WITH THE FIVE WITH SHEEP FIVE AND EIGHT OF THE TEXT REGARDING THE PROPOSED 100 FT TOTAL RIGHT AWAY DEDICATION. 50 FT. MEASURED FROM CENTER LINE. THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY'S STRATEGIC PLANNING WILL BE TRUE CORRIDOR.

AND THOSE ARE THE ITEMS THAT WERE LISTENING. THE ENGINEER'S REPORT CORRECT CORRECT AND THERE ARE NO END. THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL ENGINEERING ISSUES AT THIS POINT THAT YOU'RE AWARE OF NO. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. UM CAN WE HEAR FROM YOU UP? TALK AARON UNDERHILL 8000 WALTON PARKWAY HERE IN NEW ALBANY ATTORNEY FOR THE APPLICANT TARGET RELIEF COMPANY IS HERE WITH ME. UM REALLY? THIS IS A CONTINUATION OF ZONES WE'VE BEEN DOING FOR THE LAST ATTEMPT 12 YEARS OUT IN THIS AREA. WE HAVE WELL ESTABLISHED STANDARDS RELATING. TWO SETBACKS, BUILDING HEIGHT SCREENING ETCETERA, WHICH CHELSEA WENT THROUGH. RECOGNIZED OVER THE YEARS. WE'VE OH, EASTWARD, AND WE DO HAVE SOME PRESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT WE HAVE BROUGHT UP AGAINST IT. YOU WANT TO CONTINUE THE BEST PRACTICES THAT WE'VE BEEN USING IN OTHER PLACES, SO THIS TEXT LARGELY MIRRORS. ONES THAT YOU HAVE SEEN TIME AND TIME AGAIN. AND WE CONTINUE TO SEE GREAT INTEREST IN THE AREA FOR NON RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. IT'S APPOINTMENT. THE CONFERENCE. SORRY. THE REAL ESTATE TAX GENERATING AND THIS IS THE NEXT LOGICAL. PARCEL TO BE MORE PARCELS TO BE IN X DOZEN PROCESS AND WERE COMPLIANT WITH STRATEGIC PLANS, RECOMMENDATIONS SO UH, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY NEED TO BE LABOR ANYTHING AND YOU HAVE TO TAKE YOUR QUESTIONS. QUESTION. UM ERIN. I NOTED THAT . YOU MENTIONED IN YOUR COMMENTS , LARGELY THE SAME. AND THEN, THE STAFF REPORT SAYS THE SAME OR SIMILAR THAT THE REZONING IT SERVES TO EXTEND THE SAME OR SIMILAR ZONING. IT'S THE SIMILAR PART THAT I JUST WANTED YOU TO COMMENT ON. IS THERE ANYTHING THAT'S DIFFERENT? IN THIS PARTICULAR ZONING AND THE TEXT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE. THAT YOU WOULD HIGHLIGHT THAT'S A DIFFERENCE FROM THE SURROUNDING AREAS. YEAH WELL POINTED OUT, THERE ARE SOME AREAS WHERE WE'VE GONE UP TO 80 85 FT MAXIMUM HEIGHT THAT WOULD BE ONE EVEN THE TMD DISTRICT, WHICH IS A STREET ZONING CODE. HAS ALLOWS ANY ANY SORT OF HEIGHT WITH SOME ADDITIONAL SCREENING. THAT'S THE MAIN ONE. UM THAT'S A MORE RESTRICTIVE REQUIREMENT THAT DEVELOPER RIGHT THAT'S CORRECT.

AND THEN YOU KNOW, DEPENDING ON WHAT PUBLIC STREETS WERE UP AGAINST. THE SETBACKS CAN DIFFER . UM SOME PEACH ROADS ARE PRETTY MAJOR THOROUGHFARE. SO BAD WAS COMPARED TO LIKE THAT MILLER

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I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S SAD. HOWARD. OKAY WELL, IT SAYS FIVE HOMES WILL BE REMOVED. YES, THEY'RE THEY'RE DOWN. I DON'T KNOW THAT. MAKES ANY PROJECTION PROJECTION AS TO WHAT YOU'RE WHAT MAY NOT WHAT COULD HAVE HAPPENED IF THIS WAS ONLY DIFFERENTLY TYPICALLY, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S VERY OBVIOUS. I DON'T GET INTO TOO MUCH DETAIL WHEN WE HAVE EXISTING HOMES THAT ARE BEING REMOVED OR REPLACED COMMERCIAL. I THINK IT'S PRETTY SOFT EVIDENCE THAT WILL BE A BIG BOOST. YOU KNOW A TYPICAL SINGLE FAMILY HOME, YOU KNOW, AND IF YOU WANT MONEY, WE'VE ALWAYS SAID 0.8 KIDS PER UNIT, SO LET ME FOUR KIDS HERE IN I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S ACTUALLY HAPPENING THERE. WE DON'T GO SURVEY THAT, BUT OBVIOUSLY THEY WOULD NOT BE ATTENDING. WE HAVE TO MOVE IN ATTENDANCE. JOHNS TOWN SCHOOLS BY RESIDING SOMEWHERE ELSE, BUT ELIMINATING THAT AND OBVIOUSLY THERE ARE SOME VALUE THERE WITH THE IMPROVEMENTS TODAY, BUT YOU KNOW IT SPEAKS FOR ITSELF. I THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE A CONTINUATION OF SOME OF THE THINGS WE'VE SEEN OUT IN THE BUSINESS PARK, AND IT'S BEEN A GREAT BOON FOR JOHNSTOWN SCHOOL DISTRICT. IF YOU'LL RECALL, WE HAVE AN INCOME TAX SHARING ARRANGEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, WHICH WE ALSO BE WITH WORKING HEIGHTS AND POINT TOWNSHIP WHERE THEY GET 35. 35% OF THE INCOME TAX GENERATED FROM NEW DEVELOPMENT UP UNTIL THE POINT THEY'RE MADE WHOLE ON ABATED TAXES. SIMPLE.

YOU KNOW, EVERY JOB IS CREATED. SOME OF THAT GETS BACK INTO THE SCHOOL SYSTEM AND ULTIMATELY ABATEMENTS, FOR INSTANCE, RUN OUT AND. ANY BENEFITS TO NEW ORLEANS SCHOOL SYSTEM. YOU KNOW, THIS IS ALL OUTSIDE OF THAT. I TURNED IT ON. IS THAT BETTER? YEAH. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT. THANKS. THANK YOU. I HAVE FOUR SPEAKER CARDS FROM FOLKS IN THE AUDIENCE. I'M JUST GOING TO GO THROUGH THEM. UM, BASED ON I THINK IT'S IN ORDER OF DELIVERY. TO US. THE FIRST ONE IS FOR AND EXCUSE ME. IF I DO NOT PRONOUNCE YOUR NAME CORRECTLY, I APOLOGIZE IN ADVANCE, BUT CATHERINE SABISTON . HOW DID I DO? YEAH I DO. OKAY. PRONUNCIATION. CATHERINE SERVICE. UM, YEAH, THANK YOU. SO UM, MY FAMILY LIVES AT THE END OF KLAUS ROAD. SO WE ARE NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE CATHERINE SERVICE IN 83 83 CLASS ROAD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM SO I THINK WE'RE THE CLOSEST HOUSE TO WHAT IS NOW THE SUPER PROPERTY. I BELIEVE SO FROM OUR FRONT PORCH WILL BE ABLE TO SEE WHATEVER GOES INTO THAT FIELD. SO I HAVE TO SAY THAT I'M NOT VERY HAPPY ABOUT THEY'RE BEING POTENTIALLY A WAREHOUSE OR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.

INDUSTRIAL. I'M NOT SURE SO A COUPLE OF CONCERNS AROUND SO PART OF SO WE LIVE ADJACENT TO MY MOTHER. THAT'S MARYLAND SABISTON. SO SHE'S AT 83 70 CLASS ROAD AND ON HER PROPERTY IS ABOUT 30 ACRES OF CONSERVATION WETLAND. UM IN ADDITION ON THE 17 ACRES PROPERTY, WHICH IS ON BEACH ROAD THERE IS AT THE BACK END OF THAT. THERE'S ABOUT A 19 ACRE WETLAND. ALSO WETLAND RESERVE PROGRAM CONSERVATION WEAPON. SO ONE OF MY CONCERNS IS THE FLOW OF WATER OR POLLUTION CONTAMINATION RUNOFF FROM THE SUPER PROPERTY. THE OLD TILE LINES, THE WATER FLOW FLOWS FROM THAT SUPER PROPERTY ACROSS INTO OUR PROPERTY, AND THEN IT'S YOU KNOW, THE WATER ENDS UP FLOWING. THROUGH A BUNCH OF CLASSROOM PROPERTIES AND ON DOWN INTO BLACK LICK CREEK. SO I AM CONCERNED ABOUT POTENTIAL CONTAMINATION OF THE

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SO YOU KNOW WHAT THE FLOW RATES ARE AND THAT SORT OF THING THAT WAY, IF YOU DO NOTICE A CHANGE DOWN THE ROAD, YOU'LL HAVE SOME EVIDENCE THAT THERE'S BEEN A CHANGE IN THAT. THAT MAY BE ABLE TO BE TIED TO DEVELOP. YOU SHOULD HAVE IT. I WOULD RECOMMEND YOU. HAVE A CHECK. IF YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT IT, ANYBODY ELSE SHOULD ALSO DO THE SAME THING. BUT ANYWAY, LET ME TURN IT OVER NOW. TOM AND HE CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION. YES MISS SABISTON AGAINST THE BASELINE.

EVALUATION OF YOUR EXISTING. THIS IS PRETTY STANDARD PRACTICE. WE HAVE ENCOUNTERED ON NUMEROUS DEVELOPMENTS. THROUGHOUT NEW ALBANY PROPERTY UNDER THERE ON WELL AND SEPTIC SYSTEMS THAT THEY DO A BASELINE ANALYSIS. PRIORITY DEVELOPMENT. THERE'S A REQUIREMENT IN THIS CITY MUNICIPAL CODES OF REGULATION. THAT THAT PROHIBITED FUTURE DEVELOPMENT FROM THE NEGATIVELY YOUR GROUNDWATER. I'M LIKE. SIMILARLY, THE. WETLANDS ADJACENT TO YOUR PROPERTY AND STORMWATER MANAGE. WE ARE ALSO NOT. THERE ARE REGULATIONS THAT PRECLUDE US FROM NEGATIVELY IMPACTING THE STORM WATER THAT COMES OFF SO WHEN THAT WHEN THIS PARCEL OF DEVELOPMENT AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE THERE ARE A SERIES OF STORMWATER BASINS OF WATER QUALITY BASES THAT ARE DESIGN. EVALUATED BY THE CITY DETERMINED THAT AGREEABLE, NOT AGREEABLE AND THEIR THEIR METRIC FOR DETERMINING MATTER IF BASED ON WHAT HAPPENS OFF SITE? SOMETIMES THEIR WEAPONS.

SOMETIMES THEY WERE OR OTHER DEVELOPING. ANY DEVELOPMENT ON THIS PROPERTY CANNOT NEGATIVELY.

SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT MAYBE STEPHEN CAN ADDRESS THIS AS WELL . LOOK THE WAY THE CODES AND REGULATIONS WERE DRAFTED TODAY. PART OF THE ENGINEERING ANALYSIS BEFORE ANYTHING WOULD EVER PERMITTED, WOULD HAVE TO ULTIMATELY BE APPROVED BY THE CITY ENGINEER. HEART DESIGNS WOULD HAVE MODIFIED ITS ISSUES CONCERNS. BASED ON ITS NEGATIVE POTENTIAL NEGATIVE IMPACT FOR THE WETLANDS. WELL, SO, THE STEPHEN IN THE CITY ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT ARGUED ADVOCATE THROUGH THIS WERE THE ONES THAT WOULD BE SUBMITTING DEVELOPMENT PLAN. THAT WOULD HAVE TO RESPOND TO THE ISSUES THAT ARE RAISED. THAT MEANS YOUR QUESTION. DID YOU HAVE A SECOND QUESTION OR COMMENT? YOU SURE? OKAY IF YOU WANT TO COME BACK LATER FEEL FREE. SECOND COACH CORRIDORS FROM RICHARD OTTEN. STRAATEN. NAME AND NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. HI I'M RICHARD OTTEN LIVE AT 83 83 CLOSE HEARD ALSO ONE OF THE SATELLITE PICTURES. IT'S A LITTLE MORE WILL BE EASIER FOR PEOPLE TO SEE WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. YEAH, THAT ONE'S GOOD. SO VERY POINT LASER POINTER AT IT. WE LIVE RIGHT HERE. AND. YOU CAN SEE THESE DARK LINES HERE. THIS IS ALL THE WATER FLOW. COMING OUT. AND THEN IT GOES DOWN TO CLASS ROAD AND INTO BLACK LICK CREEK, WHICH RUNS ALONG ROUTE 62 HERE. SO THESE ARE THE HEADWATERS FOR BLACK LAKE CREEK. THIS FIELD UP HERE, WHICH IS THE NEW ANTHON PLANT THERE FILLING IN A BUNCH OF WETLANDS THERE, THE INTEL PLANT FILLING IN A BUNCH OF WETLANDS THERE. 400 ACRES ACROSS EACH ROAD HERE. I WAS AT THE ZONING MEETING FOR THAT, AND THEY WERE PLANNING ON FILLING IN A BUNCH OF WETLANDS THERE AS WELL. SOME OF THESE ARE MITIGATED. SOME ARE NOT IN PARTICULAR. NO THE INTEL ONES WERE NOT MITIGATED. SO BASICALLY , WE'RE TAKING THE HEADWATERS FOR BLACKWOOD CREEK, WHICH RUNS THROUGH THE ENTIRE COLUMBUS METROPOLITAN AREA. AND EVENTUALLY FLOWS INTO THE OHIO

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IS UM ARE FEDERALLY PROTECTED CONSERVATION LAND. IT'S ONE OF THE LARGEST PRIVATELY HELD COLLECTIONS OF NATIVE WILDLIFE AND PLANTS IN FRANKLIN COUNTY. AND IF WE GO WITH THE 25 FT SETBACK, WHICH IS WHAT THIS THING SAYS FOR THE NON RESIDENTIAL SIDE BECAUSE TECHNICALLY OUR HOUSE IS NOT ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY. THERE'S THIS WETLAND IN BETWEEN US, UM WE WILL BE WAY TOO CLOSE TO THAT WETLAND FOR LARGE BUILDINGS TO BE PUT AND EXPECT ANY SORT OF DRAINAGE CORRECTLY. THE OTHER THING IS IF YOU DRY UP , ALL THIS ARE WETLAND GOES AWAY , AND IT JUST BECOMES A CLAY DESERT. SO WE NEED THE WATER THERE AS WELL IN ORDER TO PRESERVE THE POLLINATORS AND NATIVE PLANTS THAT THAT WE HAVE PRESENT WE HAVE SEEN BALD EAGLES VISITING US SINCE THE CONSTRUCTION STARTED. I THINK THEY GOT DISPLACED. THE NUMBER OF OTHER PEOPLE WERE COMPLAINING ONLINE ABOUT THE DISPLACED FOR ILLEGALS LOOKING FOR A NEW HOME.

WE CERTAINLY HAVE HAWKS AND OTHER THINGS THAT ARE ALL LIVING IN THIS AREA AS WELL. SO THAT'S WHAT MINING CONCERN IS. IT'S NOT JUST THIS LITTLE BIT OF LAND HERE AND SOME RETENTION PONDS.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS. THIS THIS IS ALREADY THESE ARE ALREADY GONE. AND WELL, WE'RE NOT GOING TO STOP THIS AND THERE'S NO WAY YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO VOTE NO ON IT. I'M HOPING YOU CAN PUT SOME CONSIDERATIONS OR CLAUSES IN TO NOT DESTROY THE LAST LITTLE BIT OF NATIVE OHIO SWAMP. WHAT. AND DO SOMETHING TO HELP PRESERVE AT LEAST A PIECE OF IT. THAT'S ALL I REALLY WANTED TO ADD TO THIS. THANK YOU. GERMANY. RESPONSE TO THAT. YES FIRST OF ALL, I'M SORRY THAT NEIL KIRBY ISN'T HERE. BECAUSE THIS IS RIGHT UP HIS ALLEY. WHAT THE THINGS THAT YOU'RE MENTIONING SPECIFICALLY THE WETLAND AT THE END OF KLAUS ROAD IS SOMETHING I KNOW THAT THE CITY IS INTIMATELY AWARE OF IT. ONE POINT THERE WERE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT EXTENSION OF KLAUS ROAD TO THE EAST EXTENSION OF ONE THAT ROAD TO THESE. NONE OF THOSE THINGS HAPPENED BECAUSE OF THAT. THOSE WETLANDS AND THAT FEDERALLY PROTECTED PRESERVED AREA. SECONDLY THE ANY WETLAND MITIGATION OR PRESERVATION FALLS UNDER THE JURISDICTION OF THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS IN THE HIGHER ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY. THEY ARE PART OF THE REVIEW PROCESS ULTIMATELY WILL HAPPEN THIS EVENING, ALBANY SO AGAIN AS WE TALKED ABOUT STORMWATER MANAGEMENT AND WHERE THAT STORM WATER GOES, THE THREAT OF DRYING UP THAT PRESERVED WETLAND IS A LEGITIMATE CONCERN AND SOMETHING THAT THE CITY WILL ENSURE THAT THE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT AND DESIGN OF WHATEVER MAY HAPPEN ON THIS PARCEL. IS DONE IN A WAY THAT WILL NOT NEGATIVELY IMPACT THAT YOU'RE THE EYES AND EARS OF THIS. YOU LIVE THERE. YOU SEE IT EVERY DAY AND WILL KNOW I SUGGEST THAT YOU COORDINATE WITH THE CITY SO THAT YOU'RE AWARE WHEN A DEVELOPMENT PROJECT HAPPENS HERE. THAT THAT ENGINEERING IS DONE IN A WAY IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PRESERVATION AS WELL. YOU'RE RIGHT. YOU POINTED OUT A SERIES OF WEAPONS , SOME OF WHICH HAVE BEEN MITIGATED, SOME OF WHICH HAVE NOT WOW! AGAIN THE JURISDICTION OF THAT FALLS BY THE WITHIN THOSE TWO AGENCIES, OR HIGHER E P A. AND THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS. UH THE PROCESS OF MITIGATING OR ELIMINATING A WETLAND. IS UM NOT ONLY TIME INTENSIVE. IT IS VERY COSTLY AND CERTAINLY NOT SOMETHING THAT WE AS A DEVELOPER WANTS TO DO, BECAUSE IT'S EXTRAORDINARILY EXPENSIVE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS SO THERE WHILE SOME WETLANDS MAY EVEN BE IDENTIFIED AS MITIGATE HERBAL OFTENTIMES THEY ARE NOT. DEPENDING ON WHAT THE DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS. LOOKS LIKE BUT UNDER ANY SCENARIO, WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS AND GET THEIR ENDORSEMENT AND CONCURRENCE ON WHATEVER MAY HAPPEN AS IT RELATES TO IMPACTING WEAPONS. TOM IS A PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. DURING THAT PROCESS, THERE IS STEPHEN IS THAT I BELIEVE THERE'S EVEN NOTIFICATION IN A PUBLIC COMMENT PROCESS AS THAT OCCURS, THAT IS TRUE, TYPICALLY IS NEIGHBORHOOD

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THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT APPLICATIONS THAT COULD OCCUR ONCE THIS IS REZONED. WE YOU KNOW, I KNOW INTEL AND I'VE RESEARCHED INTEL AND THERE ARE GOOD CORPORATE CITIZEN. I HAVE NO IDEA WHO THE CORPORATE CITIZEN IS IN OUR BACKYARD OR WHAT THE USAGE IS. IS IT A WAREHOUSES AND DATA CENTER, AND SO WE CAN ALL SIT HERE AND SAY GREAT THINGS, BUT NONE OF US TRULY KNOW THAT AT THIS POINT IN TIME. MY NEIGHBOR, DAN ABRAHAM, WHO UNFORTUNATELY, COULD NOT BE HERE TONIGHT HAS SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON THIS. HE LIVES IN THE END OF OUR PRIVATE DRIVE AS 40 ACRES, AND HERE'S THE ATTORNEY ON RECORD RIGHT NOW FOR EAST PALESTINE AND WHAT'S GOING ON UP THERE? FOR THE FOR THE RESIDENTS, AND HE IS JUST APPALLED, HE SAID. YOU CAN'T

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COULD YOU IF YOU IF YOU WANT TO FOLLOW UP WITH THE QUESTION YOU'RE WELCOME TO BUT GO TO THE MICROPHONE. IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE, SO WE CAN GET IT FOR THE RECORD HAVING A SPECIAL COUNSEL OF NEIGHBORS OR SOMETHING INVOLVED IN THIS AS THIS WHOMEVER WANTS TO DEVELOP DEVELOPS, AND WE'RE WE HAVE A SEAT AT THE TABLE BECAUSE I'M SURE LIKE INTEL. THEY WANT TO BE GOOD. YOU KNOW, NEIGHBORS AND WE WANT TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS, UH, TO THE RIGHT INSTITUTION THAT'S GOING TO GO THERE OR DEVELOPMENT . WHATEVER IT IS, COULD YOU GIVE THEM A SENSE OF WHAT HAPPENS NEXT, ASSUMING THAT THE PROPERTY IS OWNED THE WAY THE APPLICANTS REQUESTED? CAN YOU SORT OF GIVE HIM A SENSE OF WHAT HAPPENS NEXT AND HOW THE DEVELOPMENT ON THE PROPERTY WOULD OCCUR. ABSOLUTELY SO I'LL ADD THAT THIS MEETING TONIGHT IS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR RESIDENTS TO COME OUT, AND THAT'S WHAT WE PUT OUT SIGNS AND THEY SAID NEIGHBOR NOTIFICATION LETTERS TO GIVE RESIDENTS AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME IN AND COMMENT ON THIS PROPOSED REZONING. SO YOU ASKED WHAT TYPE OF USE SO OUR ZONING CODE ALLOWS FOR? UH VARIETY OF USES IN THIS DISTRICT, AND IT IS, UM GENERAL USES RIGHT AS MR UNDERHILL SAID . SO DATA CENTERS, WAREHOUSES DISTRIBUTION OFFICE. I THINK,

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WITH DEALING WITH AND GOD, WE JUST LIKE TO BE REPRESENTED. VOICE. BECAUSE, YOU KNOW. LET'S BE HONEST. TRUST IS NOT THERE. I MEAN, I'M NOT SAYING ANYTHING BAD. I'M JUST SAYING YEAH. I WANT ASSURANCES. MY FAMILY WANTS ASSURANCES AND I KNOW EVERYBODY SO ONCE A PERMIT SAFE THIS THE PUBLIC REVIEW PROCESS YOU KNOW, AS PART OF THIS REZONING IS THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE COMMENTS.

I WILL SAY THAT, IF IN ONE DEVELOPMENT DOES OCCUR ON THE PROPERTY THAT BECOMES A PUBLIC DOCUMENTS, YOU CERTAINLY ARE ALWAYS WELCOME TO STOP BY OUR OFFICES AND VIEW THOSE FOR YOURSELVES AND TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE. CERTAINLY ANY DOCUMENTATION AND CONSTRUCTION PLANS CAN BE VIEWED BY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC. I GUESS I'M JUST NOT HEARING ANYTHING OTHER THAN WHAT WAS NORMAL. WE'RE ASKING POTENTIALLY FOR SOMETHING OTHER THAN WHAT IS NORMAL BECAUSE THIS IS UP AGAINST RESIDENTS. AND POUND YOU ALL REPRESENT. THE CITY. REPRESENTATIVE THIS IS RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS HEADWATER WE SPOKE ABOUT THIS IS NOT JUST ANOTHER. AREAS WE'VE ALL BEEN AND YOU KNOW IT'S CHANGING OUR EYES AND WORK FOR THAT. WE JUST WANTED TO BE DONE IN THE PROPER MANNER. SO I WOULD ASK THAT YOU FIGURE THAT SOMETHING OUT OF THE NORM FROM WHAT HAS BEEN HISTORICALLY DONE. DO WE HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO PUT SOMETHING IN THE TEXT THAT WOULD WIRE, SOME SORT OF CITIZEN INPUT INTO FURTHER. DEVELOPMENT AT THE PROPERTY AFTER THE YEAH. I WOULD SAY NO. IN THAT SITUATION, I THINK THAT THE CITY WOULD BE OBLIGATED TO ADHERE TO THE STANDARDS AND PRESENTS AND EVERYTHING SET FORTH PREVIOUSLY. TOM I'M JUST TRYING TO THINK THROUGH SOMETHING THAT MAY RESPOND, AND I DON'T KNOW, CERTAINLY WERE WILLING, WILLING PARTICIPANT, IT WOULD BE HELPFUL. I WOULD ONLY WANT TO DO THIS WITH THE CITY. BUT PERHAPS

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PEOPLE IN NEW OR BURNING GAVE US WHAT THEY WANT. AND I WAS KIND OF AMAZED THAT THERE WERE QUITE A FEW OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL THINGS THAT THEY ARE YOU LOOKING AT? SO. I COPIED A COUPLE OF THEM DOWN, BUT THERE IS A LOT OF THEM. SO THAT'S WHY I'M HERE. WE ARE TOO CONCERNED ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT. IT'S NOT JUST. YOU KNOW, ONE GROUP OF PEOPLE AND THEY GET TO YEAH. WE'RE HERE.

AND. WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT THAT WE LIVE IN AND ENJOY. THERE ARE REALLY GREAT PEOPLE ON OUR STREETS. MARTY AND JOHN SABISTON AND OTHER PEOPLE. WHO HAD BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR A LONG TIME. THE WETLANDS AND THE SPECIAL, UM, HEALTHY PROJECT. AND THEY. THEY JUST FELT THAT OUR ENVIRONMENT SHOULD BE CONDUCIVE. AND FOR A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE TO ENJOY AN ANIMALS SERVICE AND ACRES. IS ONE OF THOSE SUCH AREAS. YES DESIGN, KEEPING CERTAIN STANDARDS. FOR

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HABITATS THAT ARE DISAPPEARING FROM OUR AREA. UM, ARCH STREET. HAS CONTRIBUTED. SO MUCH TO THIS PRESERVATION OF THIS AREA. AND WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO ENJOY THE WORK. THAT WE HAVE ACCOMPLISHED.

SO WE ARE ASKING THAT OUR ENJOYMENT. REMAIN AND NOT BE. DONE AWAY WITH. ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THIS PERSON. I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS HERE WITH ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. YOU CAN CERTAINLY ASK THEM. I COULDN'T HEAR WHAT HE SAID. IS ANYTHING PLANNED FOR THAT AREA RIGHT NOW. ANY BUILDINGS OR ANYTHING PLANNED FOR IT FROM WHAT I HEARD, TOM RUBY SAY. NO THEY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING SPECIFIC PLAN FOR THAT AREA. AT THIS TIME THAT RIGHT, TOM? WE WILL KNOW, THOUGH. WHAT'S THE WHAT'S WELL BEFORE IT STARTED? WE KIND OF WENT THROUGH THAT WITH MR ZAMANSKY, UM YOU. EUROPE YOU CAN KEEP APPRISED OF WHAT IS HAPPENING THERE BY CONTACTING THE CITY. UM AND STAYING IN TOUCH WITH THEM. UM. BUT AS I THINK WE ESTABLISHED EARLIER, THERE'S NO FORMAL PROCESS WHEREBY YOU'LL BE NOTIFIED WHEN DEVELOPMENT OCCURS THERE. WHAT TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT BE THERE? WHAT YOU KNOW IS THAT THE ZONING IS APPROVED. WHATEVER GOES IN, THERE HAS TO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS. OF THE NEW ZONING THAT'S PLACED ON THERE. AND THE CITY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR ENSURING ITS STEEP WENT THROUGH ASSURING THAT WHATEVER DEVELOPMENT GOES IN THERE IT MEETS ALL THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE ZONING TEXT THAT MEETS ALL THE OTHER REQUIREMENTS OF THE CITY CODE.

AND THEN I THINK WE ALSO HEARD THAT THE STATE OF OHIO WILL MAKE SURE IT MEETS ANY OHIO ENVIRONMENTAL REQUIREMENTS AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. THE EPA, I THINK WAS THE EPA WILL MAKE SURE THAT ANY WETLANDS AND OTHER THINGS THAT WHATEVER GOES WHATEVER DEVELOPMENT OCCURS ON THE PROPERTY IS GOING TO COMPLY WITH ALL THE STATE AND FEDERAL AND THEN, OF COURSE, OUR LOCAL REQUIREMENTS AND THE ZONING TEXT. WELL YOU KNOW, I REMEMBER WHEN THE AREA WAS AND NEXT FOUR.

UM MHM. NO. LEGALIZED PLACE, YOU KNOW? WHAT IS THAT? RIGHT ACROSS FROM TITLE. EVER COPY AND FIT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM I KNOW WHEN THEY HAD THEIR PLANS THAT THEY HAD HAVE HAD TO HAVE A NICE

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THAT THAT WETLANDS WILL DISAPPEAR. WE DON'T WANT THAT. HE SAID. ANYTHING ELSE? THANK YOU. THANK YOU. DOES ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO SPEAK? HAVING HEARD THE COMMENTS THAT WERE UP? PLEASE COME TO THE MIKE AND THE ONLY WORRY ABOUT PAPER. JUST TELL US YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS WORK. LUCAS 37 15 BEACH ROAD. SO WHO'S THAT? ACTUALLY THE PAPER MIGHT BE HELPFUL FOR MAKE SURE TO GET THE NAME SPELLED RIGHT AND STUFF LIKE THAT. SO BRING IT UP AFTERWARDS.

RIGHT HERE. THAT'S WHERE WE LIVE. OKAY, THAT LITTLE CORNER.■ IN THE MIDDLE OF ALL THAT, SERMANNI. I MEAN, LITERALLY. YOU PUT UP THE ZONING KIND OF THIS HAS ALL BEEN RIGHT THERE. YOU DON'T LOOK TEMPLE. PRINCES UP AROUND OUR PROPERTY. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? AND WHAT ABOUT WELLS? BECAUSE I HEARD YOU TALK ABOUT WELLS. BUT LET'S DOWN THERE. WE'RE GONNA BE RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF AN INDUSTRIAL PLANT. BOTH SIDES FRONT BACK WHATEVER. ERIN EXCUSE ME, AARON.

DO YOU WANT TO JUST OR OR TOM JUST SORT OF GIVE AN UPDATE AS TO WHAT TYPE OF SCREENING IS GOING TO BE REQUIRED. AT THE PORTIONS OF THE PROPERTY THAT BUT RESIDENTIAL AREAS SO THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. I MEAN TO INTERRUPT YOU, SIR, BUT I BECAUSE WE ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.

UM SO WE WERE RESIDENTIAL IS EITHER EXISTING OR PERMITTED USE SO THAT WOULD INCLUDE AGRICULTURAL ZONING DISTRICTS. WHERE WE ABOUT THOSE SORTS OF PROPERTIES. WE HAVE AN ENHANCED BUILDING AND PAVEMENT SETBACK. I HAVE 100 FT RATHER THAN 25 OTHER PERIMETER BOUNDARIES. WE ALSO HAVE A REQUIREMENT TO INSTALL, UM MOUNDING AND LANDSCAPING. ON TOP OF THAT MOUND THAT WILL ALLOW FOR WHAT WE CALL CAPACITY OF 75% WITHIN FIVE YEARS UP TO A HEIGHT OF 10 3. SO AH, ALONG THOSE PERIMETERS THAT WILL BE HEAVY SCREENING. UP TO 10 FT. BLOCK YOUR VIEW AND BLOCK NOISE AND OTHER ITEMS. THEY GO UP TO FIVE YEARS BEFORE THE AFTERNOON THING LIKE THAT. SO I THINK I THINK THAT, UM IN TIME, MAYBE YOU CAN TALK ABOUT WHAT WE TYPICALLY DO. UM MOUNTING, OBVIOUSLY GIVES YOU IMMEDIATE SCREENING. WHETHER IT'LL BE 10 FT. IN HEIGHT. I DON'T THINK SO.

WHAT? THE PURPOSE OF GIVEN THAT FIVE YEAR WINDOWS BECAUSE WE'LL MAKE THE PLANTINGS IT'LL TAKE SOME TIME TO GROW. GET TO THAT LEVEL. REAL QUICK. I THINK I JUST CONFIRMED WITH STEPHEN THAT THERE'S NOT A REQUIREMENT FOR MOUNTING. THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR MOUNTING, BUT IT IS A SCREENING REQUIREMENT OF 75% OPACITY WITHIN FIVE YEARS. MORE THAN FIVE YEARS THAT HAS HIT THE 75% OPACITY IMMEDIATELY. SO AT THE TIME CONSTRUCTION HEIGHT, 10 FT. SO THESE OTHERS LANDSCAPING AS THEY HIT 10 FEEDS WITHIN FIVE YEARS, SO IT HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO GROW. BUT THAT 75% OPACITY SCREENING, UM, SHOULD BE INSTALLED, IMPLANTING AT THE SAME TIME AS DEVELOPMENTS OCCUR.

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TWO FT. I MEAN, LESS THAN FIVE YEARS. I WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTOOD WHAT YOU WERE JUST SAYING. SO WE HAVE A REQUIREMENT THAT TEXT I BELIEVE THAT THE LANDSCAPING HAS TO BE A MINIMUM OF. I BELIEVE SIX FT AT THE TIME OF INSTALLATIONS THAT HAS FIVE YEARS TO GROW AN ADDITIONAL LIKE 4 TO 5 FT. SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT'S REVIEWED BY OUR ENGINEERING STAFF AT THE TIME OF DEVELOPMENT , SO THE DEVELOPER WILL HAVE TO PROPOSE A GRADING PLAN THAT ENSURES THAT ADDITIONAL STORMWATER IS NOT BEING ADDED TO YOUR PROPERTY AND THAT YOU WILL NOT BEING IMPACTED BY THAT DEVELOPMENT, WHETHER IT BE A STORM WATER RUNOFF OR ANY OTHER TYPE OF CONTROLS THAT ARE HAPPENING ON THE SITE OF DEVELOPMENT. THANK YOU, MR PLUS.

SO IF THE ZONING IS APPROVED, THEN THE DEVELOPER WILL HAVE RIGHTS TO REDEVELOP THE PROPERTY WITH THE USES OUTLINING THE SODIUM TEXT BUT HAVE TO INSTALL THOSE BARRIERS AND HAVE TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE OUTSIDE OF THOSE MINIMUM SETBACK. SO THIS IS 100 FT. MINIMUM BUILDING AND PAVEMENTS SETBACK AND WITHIN THE THAT 100 FT BUILDING PAVEMENT SETBACK THEY HAVE TO INSTALL.

THAT LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS AT THE TIME OF DEVELOPMENT. IT'S OKAY. ARE YOU FINISHED? I WAS GOING TO SAY IF YOU WANT TO KEEP GOING BETTER BE AT THE MIC. OKAY. THANK YOU. SIR. HE WAS JEFF RALPH AND I LIVE AT 8 TO 31 KLAUS ROAD. I AM A REALTOR IN COLUMBUS, SO I HAVE OTHER CONCERNS THAT PEOPLE AREN'T REALLY SPEAKING ABOUT HERE RELATED TO PROPERTY VALUES AS WELL. AND I'M WATCHING. I DRIVE THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT OFTEN I'M UP AND DOWN JUG ROAD. I SEE ISOLATED. PROPERTIES THAT AREN'T LARGE PARTS OF TRACTS OF LAND THAT DEVELOPERS ARE VERY DIRECT.

I SHOULD SAY. MAYBE FARMERS OR WHATEVER THOSE OWNERS WERE EAGER TO SELL AT INCREDIBLE PRICES. UM AND THEN IT'S ISOLATED NUMEROUS SMALLER TRACTS OF LAND, WHETHER IT BE 25 10, WHATEVER ACRES AND ALL OF THIS IS SURROUNDING THEM. AND YOU KNOW THOSE PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO MOVE. AND WHETHER THEY'VE BEEN OFFERED SOME AMOUNT OF MONEY. TO SELL THEIR HOMES OR THEIR PROPERTIES TO BECOME FILL IN THE SQUARE OR WHATEVER OF THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S HAPPENING. BUT. OTHER ISSUES THAT PEOPLE WEREN'T TALKING ABOUT IS COARSE. TRAFFIC ISSUES. SAFETY OF. KIDS THESE FOLKS, MANY PEOPLE ON THESE ROADS HAVE CHILDREN THAT ARE TRYING TO GET OUT ON 62 TEENAGERS STARTING TO DRIVE. ALL THESE CONCERNS ARE HAPPENING. THE ENVIRONMENTAL PIECE IS VERY REAL. WALK THAT PROPERTY SO EVERYTHING THAT THEY TALKED ABOUT AS FAR AS ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES. THINGS THAT. THE GENERAL PUBLIC MAY NOT BE AWARE OF BEAVERS OTTERS. EVERY KIND OF BIRD THAT YOU COULD POSSIBLY IMAGINE, AS WELL AS MIGRATING BIRDS LAND ON THOSE WETLANDS. BUT, UM YOU KNOW, IT'S. TO REZONE THIS PROPERTY WITHOUT SOME. SPECIFIC CONTROL LESS THAN WHAT'S BEEN PROPOSED. YOU KNOW OF A 65 STORE OR A 65 FT BUILDING WALL? WHATEVER. JUST THINK ABOUT THAT IMPACT THAT THAT WOULD HAVE ON YOU IF YOU LIVE THERE. AND YOU'VE LIVED THERE FOR 10 20 YEARS. WHATEVER.

YOU KNOW, THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE LIVED ON THESE ROADS AND VERY NEAR TO THIS PROPERTY. THAT HAVE A LOT TO LOSE. NOT THE LEAST OF WHICH IS POTENTIALLY THE FUTURE VALUE OF THEIR PROPERTY. BECAUSE WHEN YOU HAVE A LARGE WAREHOUSE WERE SPECIFICALLY IF IT BECOMES MANUFACTURING THAT CREATES ADDITIONAL NOISE. YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALREADY SUFFERING FROM THIS DEVELOPMENT RIGHT NOW. I MEAN, YOU HEAR IT? THE LIGHTS ARE GOING ON. UM ALL THE TRAFFIC. THAT'S COMES WITH THAT DEVELOPMENT. BUT THEN JUST TO BE IMPACTED BY LIVING RIGHT NEXT TO

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AND SUPPOSEDLY IS GOING TO CREATE A PARK AND A WETLAND. FOR THE ENJOYMENT OF ALL THOSE PEOPLE THAT LIVED THERE. THERE'S BEEN A I DON'T KNOW IF THERE WAS NO OTHER PURPOSE FOR THAT LAND OR BUT I DO UNDERSTAND. IT'S A WETLAND AND THEY'RE LEAVING WALKWAYS. THEY'RE ELEVATED WALKWAYS, PEOPLE. WALK THROUGH THERE, ENJOY IT OR WHATEVER. WE HAVE A VERY SIMILAR ENVIRONMENT.

WHERE WE ARE, AND THERE'S NO CONSIDERATION FOR THAT. JUST BECAUSE OF THE ECONOMIC VALUE OF WHAT NEW ORBITING CAN DO WITH THAT. AND, UH, YOU KNOW, THIS IS ABATED TAX. YOU KNOW, ENTICE THESE PEOPLE INTO DEVELOP HERE AND THEN WE ALL RECOGNIZE THAT WE'RE HEARING IT. WHATEVER. BUT THIS IS A SMALL STRIP OF LAND. THAT COMES UP TO 62. AND. WHEN I LOOK AT WHAT'S ON THE EAST SIDE OF BEACH ALL THE WAY TO ME AND YOU DRIVE UP TO ALL OF THIS. IT'S HUGE BLOCKS OF LAND. AND HERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. I DON'T REMEMBER EXACTLY WHAT THE ACREAGE IS HERE, BUT IT IS. IT'S A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE TO THE HOUSES THAT ARE AROUND THERE. AND LIKE THIS PERSON HERE WHO'S ON A CORNER? I DON'T KNOW. IF NEW ALBANY MADE AN OFFER TO HIM FOR HIS LAND. IT'S REASONABLE.

TO WHAT MILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT WERE OFFERED TO UM FARM OWNERS THAT HAVE LARGE TRACTS OF LAND.

YOU KNOW, UM. I THINK THAT IT'S EASY FOR YOU ALL TO BE MAKING A DECISION ABOUT THE ZONING OF THIS LAND WITHOUT MORE RESTRICTIONS, NOT UNDERSTANDING THE TRUE ENVIRONMENT OF WHAT YOU'RE IMPACTING. AND AGAIN THE ECONOMICS THAT IT WOULD MEAN IF IT WAS YOUR HOUSE THAT WAS EMBODYING THIS PROPERTY AND I LIKE IN SERVICE AND TAKERS. I HAVE SOLD PROPERTIES IN THERE. I CAN TELL YOU. I CAN'T IMAGINE WHAT THEY'RE THINKING RIGHT NOW. BUT THIS IS A BUDDING AND THOSE ARE VERY EXPENSIVE HOMES. THIS IS GOING TO HAVE A HUGE ECONOMIC IMPACT OF. I KNOW WHAT THAT VALUE IS AND WHAT DEVELOPMENT LIKE THIS DOES. TWO. THE PROPERTY VALUE. AND THERE IS NO CONSIDERATION FOR THAT. LET ALONE FOR ANY OF THESE PEOPLE THAT LIVE BACKING UP TO ALL OF THAT, AS WELL AND IT. ISN'T THAT YOUR PROPERTY BACKS RIGHT UP TO IT. YOU COULD BE HORRIBLE MILE.

I SEE IT. I HAVE PROPERTIES LISTED ON THE OTHER SIDE OF 1 61. OFFERED ME ROAD. THAT'S ALL WE HEAR ABOUT. IS IT COMING OUR WAY? AND THERE PANICKED ABOUT MOVING WHAT'S IT IN? WHAT'S THE IMPACT GOING TO BE ON US NOT KNOWING WHAT'S GOING TO BE DEVELOPED. AND I THINK BEFORE THE ZONING CHANGES HERE THERE SHOULD BE A CONSIDERATION FOR THE IMPACT. OF THIS. MORE RESTRICTIVE. THEN JUST PUTTING A BLANK ZONING ON THIS STRIP OF LAND. SO THANK YOU. MAYBE ON ANYONE SAID. DID YOU WANT TO ADD TO YOUR EARLIER COMMENTS? NAME AND JUST NAME. WE KNOW YOU'RE ADDRESSED. SO YOU'RE TELLING US THAT YOU COULD GO AHEAD AND NEXUS LAND. RIGHT ZONE IT. I'M SORRY. SAY AGAIN, YOU'RE TELLING US THAT WITHOUT KNOWING WHAT'S GOING TO BE ON THAT PROPERTY, YOU CAN STILL GO AHEAD. AND REZONING. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? I'M NOT SAYING ANYTHING . WE'RE CONSIDERING AN APPLICATION. AND YES, I THINK I THINK THE DEVELOPER HAS INDICATED THAT THEY WANT THE ZONING TEXT CHANGED. AND THEY DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT COMPANIES ARE GOING TO GO IN, BUT WHATEVER COMPANIES GO IN, WE'LL HAVE TO FOLLOW THE REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE IN THE NEW ZONING IF IT'S APPROVED. WELL, LOOKING AT THAT ZONING. THERE ARE QUITE A FEW THINGS THAT DOES ALLOW I WOULD WANT TO KNOW. WHAT'S WHEN YOU GO IN THERE? WELL MAYBE AARON CAN COMMENT ON THIS MORE THAN ME. BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS, AS AARON MENTIONED IT. IT'S A LIMITATION TEXT SO ACTUALLY WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED BY THE OWNER OF THE

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BECAUSE I READ READY. IT DOESN'T MATTER. SERVICE. NO, NO. I'M NOT . SOMETHING POISONOUS OR ANYTHING BUT SOMETHING THAT THEY ARE ALLOWED. PUT ON. NOTHING GRASSROOTS THING. I'M SAYING JUST TO GET RID OF YEAH. SPEAKING LATER, PEOPLE WERE ACTUALLY ANYTHING OTHER THAN WHAT? ANY OTHER PROPERTY IN THE SAME DISTRICT. OR SOMETHING MORE ON THE STRENGTH, SO IT'S EVERYTHING HASN'T BEEN PROCEEDING. WAS THERE. SO THERE WILL BE MORE THAN. ONE IT'S NOT JUST ONE. BILL. I'M PROBABLY IN THE SOUTH. IT'S FAIR TO SAY WHATEVER YOU WANT. CHELSEA. DO YOU WANT TO PUT THE. THE SLIDE UP THAT SHOWS THE BLUE AREA THAT THE ZONING MAP? YES. SO. AND I THINK IN BOTH THE PRESENTATION BY STAFF AND BY AIR, AND TO SOME EXTENT, THE RED AH, UM IT'S NOT A CIRCLE RED DELINEATED AREA. IS THE AREA THAT'S BEING CONSIDERED FOR REZONING AND THE IF IT'S REZONED TONIGHT, THE WAY IT'S REQUESTED YOU WE WOULD BE COLORING THAT IN THE SAME COLOR OF BLUE ALL THE AREAS AROUND IT. SO WHAT AARON IS SAYING IS THEY'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANYTHING DIFFERENT IN THIS AREA THAN WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN APPROVED AND THE ADJACENT AREAS TO THE NORTH OF EAST. THAT'S CORRECT. AGAIN. I WOULD REITERATE THAT YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS ABOUT HEIGHT LIMITATION IN, UM HISTORICALLY, IT'S BEEN 65 FT AND A LOT OF AREAS. WE'RE SEEING THINGS LIKE DATA CENTERS WANT TO BE TALLER THAN THAT. WE'VE TRIED HERE TO BE SENSITIVE TO WHERE WE ARE AND WHAT WE'RE NEXT TO, AND HAVE AGREED TO THE 65 FT HERE, WHICH IS NOT NECESSARILY THE CASE. IT'S CERTAINLY NOT THE CASE IN THE TMD OVER THERE AND THEN I AM CERTAIN THAT IN SOME OF THESE OTHER GE AREAS AROUND US WERE ALLOWED TALLER, SO I THINK THAT'S ONE IMPORTANT DISTINCTIONS OF THE BENEFIT.

HAVE THE NEIGHBORS. ANYBODY ELSE FROM THE PUBLIC, AND IT'S HERE TONIGHT THAT WOULD WISH TO COMMENT. ASK ANOTHER QUESTION. GET CLARIFICATION. ANYTHING LIKE THAT? HEARING NONE. IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM ANY OF THE COMMISSION MEMBERS. WOULD YOU SAY THAT THIS IS IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE MICROPHONES THAT YOU'RE LEARNING BASQUE. APPRECIATE IT ON TIME. YEAH, I'LL JUST SAY IT'S LIKE IT'S LIKE YOU SAID BEFORE IS CONSISTENT WITH EVERYTHING ELSE AROUND HERE. THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF THOUGHTFUL ABOUT SETBACKS AND THE PROTECTION OF VISUAL AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF, AND SO UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE PERHAPS REPLY IN THE SAME TYPE OF LOGIC HERE.

IT'S NOT JUST A WIDE OPEN PIECE OF LAND, BUT IT'S DEFINITELY BUT FULL ON HOW WE TRY TO PROTECT US AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD. ANYTHING ELSE? UM I MOVED FOR ACCEPTANCE OF STAFF REPORTS AND RELATED DOCUMENTS IN THE RECORD FOR THIS CASE. IS THERE A 2ND 2ND? PLEASE. MR WALLACE? YES? MR SCHELL? YES MISS BRIGGS? YES. MR LARSON? YES. IS THERE A MOTION? EXCUSE ME? IS THERE A MOTION ON THE CASE? MOVE FOR APPROVAL OF APPLICATIONS. THE CEO 8 2023,

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THANK YOU. MOVING ONTO THE NEXT CASE. UM FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN FDP 09 2023 FROM STAFF AND I KNOW THAT THERE'S A CONDITIONAL USE AND VARIANTS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO HEAR THEM. HAVE A PRESENTATION TOGETHER, OR DOES IT MAKE MORE SENSE TO HAVE THE VARIANCES SEPARATE PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT THEM AS ONE PRESENTATION IF THE COMMISSION IS AGREEABLE TO THAT, I THINK WE'D LIKE TO DO IT THE WAY STAFF WOULD LIKE TO DO IT. LET HER RIP. THANK YOU.

AND BY THE WAY FOR THE OTHER CASE, THANK YOU FOR EVERYONE WHO CAME OUT AND COMMENTED, WE GREATLY APPRECIATE THE PUBLIC'S INPUT AND COMMENTS AND STAY IN TOUCH WITH THE CITY WITH REGARD TO FUTURE DEVELOPMENT. THANK YOU. SORRY. OKAY THANK YOU. CHAIR MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION . THE APPLICANT REQUESTS A FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN, CONDITIONAL USE APPROVAL AND VARIANCES FOR A WENDY'S TO BE LOCATED AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF US 62, A PRIVATE DRIVE. WITHIN THE KIDNEY TRUST COURT. THE PROPOSED WENDY'S WOULD OCCUPY THE WEST SIDE OF THE SITE, LEAVING THE REMAINING EAST SIDE FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT BETWEEN THE WENDY'S AND THE EXISTING DAIRY QUEEN.

THE PROPOSED WENDY'S BUILDING WITH A DRIVE THRU IS 2050 SQUARE FEET. THE SITE WILL BE ACCESSED FROM TO CURB CUTS ONE RIGHT IN RIGHT OUT ONLY ALONG THE PRIVATE DRIVE TO THE WEST AND ONE FULL ACCESS CURB CUT ALONG WOULD CRUST WAY. THERE IS ALSO A PROPOSED PARKING LOT DRIVE. I'LL CONNECTION BETWEEN THE WENDY'S SITE IN THE FUTURE SITE TO THE EAST. THE BUILDING IS SURROUNDED BY PARKING LOT, A DRIVE THRU LANE AND INTERNAL DR ISLES. THE DRIVE THRU APPEARS TO BE A PRACTICE APPROPRIATELY POSITIONED ON THE SITE WHERE IT DOES NOT INTERFERE WITH THE TRAFFIC AND THE REST OF THE SITE. AND IT WILL NOT CAUSE TRAFFIC TO BACK UP ONTO PUBLIC ROADS. THE MAXIMUM PERMITTED LOCK COVERAGE IS 80% FOR THIS ZONING DISTRICT AND THIS SITE ORIGINALLY THE APPLICANT I HAD THOUGHT THAT THEIR PROPOSED LAW COVERAGE WAS GOING TO BE 82. AND THAT WAS EXPLAINED IN THE STAFF REPORT. THE APPLICANT LATER REALIZED THERE WAS AN AIR AND THEIR CALCULATION AND RESUBMITTED A LOT COVERAGE. GRAPHIC TO SHOW THE LOT COVERAGE IS ACTUALLY ABOUT 70% AND THAT GRAPHIC WAS INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET. SO THE CONDITION IN THE STAFF REPORT REGARDING BLOCK COVERAGE IS NO LONGER NEEDED BECAUSE THEY ACTUALLY DO MEET THE LOT COVERAGE REQUIREMENT. THE PROPOSED PLAN EXCEEDS THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS WITH 29 PARKING SPACES AND 12 STACKING SPACES. THE CITY LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT TO REVIEW THE SITE PLAN AND RECOMMENDS THAT THE APPLICANT REDUCE THE CURB CUT RADIO WHERE POSSIBLE. THE APPLICANT MEETS OR EXCEEDS ALL OF THE REQUIRED STEP BACK STANDARDS, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE REQUIRED PAVEMENT, SETBACK ALONG WOODCREST WAY. THE REQUESTED VARIANTS WILL REDUCE THE REQUIRED MINIMUM PAVEMENT SETBACK FROM 20 FT TO SEVEN FT. HISTORICALLY THE COMMISSION HAS ONLY APPROVED ENCROACHMENTS INTO THE PAVEMENT. STEP BACK WHEN ALL OF THE REQUIRED STREETSCAPE AMENITIES ARE PROVIDED, SUCH AS SIDEWALK AND TREE LAWN. UM THE SITE PLAN DOES NEED TO BE AMENDED TO ACCOMMODATE THE FIVE FT. WIDE TREELINE AND SIDEWALK ALONG BOTH PRIVATE DRIVES. CITY STAFF RECOMMENDS US AS A CONDITION OF APPROVAL. THE APPLICANT HAS ALSO REQUESTED A VARIANCE TO ALLOW FOR MANEUVERING LANE WIDTH ON SITE TO BE AS NARROW AS 15 FT WIDE WHEN CODE REQUIRES 22. THE SITE PLAYING DOES SHOW 22 WIDE MANEUVERING LANES AND AREAS

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ALSO REFERENCED A REDUCTION IN THE CURB. CUT RADIO. I YES, THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT RECOMMENDS THAT THE, UM RADIO I IN THE CURB CUT SPEED REDUCED AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. I MISSED IT. I DIDN'T SEE IT AS IT LISTED AS A CONDITION. AND I WAS I WAS THINKING IT SHOULD BE, AND I JUST WANT TO CONFIRM THAT STAFF WOULD LIKE THAT TO BE INCLUDED AS A CONDITION IT WAS IN THE REPORT. WE WOULD LIKE ALL OF THE CITY'S LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT COMMENTS TO BE ADDRESSED AS A CONDITION AND THAT COULD EVEN BE CALLED OUT SPECIFICALLY IF YOU WISH TO DO SO. I THINK WE WILL, UM DO THAT, AND THEN I ALSO NOTED THAT THERE WAS A REFERENCE IN THE SIGN PORTION OF THE STAFF REPORT. PUTTING THE THREE FORCE RELIEF REQUIREMENT AND A COUPLE OF THE SIGNS. BUT I ALSO DID NOT SEE THAT SEPARATELY AS A CONDITION AND WANTED TO CONFIRM WHETHER STAFF WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT VIA COMPRESSION AS WELL. RIGHT CLICK IT, UM, HAS COMMITTED TO AMENDING THAT FOR THE PERMITTING, BUT IF YOU WOULD RATHER BE A CONDITION AS WELL, UM, WE WOULD BE FINE WITH THAT.

ALL RIGHT, WELL, WE'LL CONFIRM WITH THE APPLICANT FAMILY MOMENTARILY. UM IF THEY HAVE ANY CONCERNS ABOUT THE CONDITIONS, INCLUDING THESE TWO WE JUST DISCUSSED THAT'S WHAT I HAD IMMEDIATELY. I WANTED TO COVER THEIR ANY QUESTIONS IMMEDIATELY FROM COMMISSION BEFORE WE HEAR FROM ENGINEERING. AND BEFORE WE HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT, YEAH, AND THE WOODCREST WAY THE SETBACK. THAT'S 20 BEING ASKED TO DO TO SEVEN. I THINK IN THE REPORT, IT SAID THAT THERE IS AN EXAMPLE OF EIGHT FT THAT WAS APPROVED PREVIOUSLY, AND THAT'S THE TIGHTEST WE'VE APPROVED IN

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SO THEY ARE HAVING A PRE ORDER SIGN. THAT WILL BE, UM. JUST BEFORE THE ACTUAL MENU BOARDS SIGN. MM. SO THEY WILL HAVE MULTIPLE SIGNS. THE PRE SALE SIGN MEETS CODE IN TERMS OF SIZE. AND THAT'S WHERE FOOTAGE IS NOT INCLUDED IN THE VARIANCE REQUEST. THAT'S IN ADDITION TO THERE'S ACTUALLY NO MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT FOR A PARCEL. SO IT JUST THE SAME COACHES SAYS THAT , UM, THAT BECAME CAME PROPOSED DRIVE THRU MENU BOARDS SIGNS AND THEY JUST HAVE TO MEET THESE CERTAIN CRITERIA, SO IT HAS TO BE ON THE PROPERTY. IT CAN'T BE VISIBLE FROM PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY. IT'S SINGLE FACED AND DOES NOT EXCEED 32 SQUARE FEET IN SIZE. AND IS PLACED OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING SETBACK LINE. SO IN THIS CASE, THE SIGNS EXCEPT FOR THE ONES MEETING ALL THESE REQUIREMENTS, EXCEPT FOR THAT SQUARE FEET IN SIZE. THE ENGINEERING, PLEASE. THE STAFF RECOMMENDS A CONDITION OF APPROVAL THAT THE COMMENTS OF THE CITY ENGINEER BE ADDRESSED SUBJECTS STAFF APPROVAL. REFER TO EXHIBIT A OF YOUR PACKET. PLEASE REVISE THE REFERENCE FOUND DEVELOPMENT PLAN TO INCLUDE THE SIGNATURE BLOCK PROVIDED WITH EXHIBIT A AND ADD THE MONUMENT ATION NOTE, BLOCK AND OTHER NOTE BLOCKS HIGHLIGHTED ON THIS EXHIBIT.

IDENTIFY ACROSS ACCESS EASEMENT REQUIREMENTS WITH THE PARCEL LOCATED TO THE EAST. PLEASE DISREGARD. BULLET 0.3 AS IT'S ALREADY BEEN ADDRESSED. REFER TO EXHIBIT B OF YOUR PACKET AT THIS FIRE TRUCK TEMPLATE TO THE C 3.1 SHEET AND REVISE THE TURNING RADIUS ANALYSIS ACCORDINGLY. AT A SIGHT DISTANCE TRIANGLE TO WOODCREST WAY CURB CUT AND ADJUST ALL LANDSCAPE FEATURES.

SO AS NOT TO OBSTRUCT MOTORIST VIEW. AND THEN WE WILL EVALUATE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT, WATER DISTRIBUTION, SANITARY SEWER COLLECTION AND ROADWAY CONSTRUCTION RELATED DETAILS.

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STARTING CARS STARS FROM HERE TO THERE. SEVEN CARS. YES SO WHAT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IS ESSENTIALLY WHAT THE TRAFFIC FLOW IS FROM HERE, TURNING IN TO HEAR. YOU KNOW, AM I GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET IN LINE HERE? PARTS ARE GOING TO BE STACKED UP FROM HERE. TO HEAR. SO I'M GOING TO GO AROUND. AND. CHELSEA OR OR YOU CERTAINLY REMIND ME THE SIGNAGE, SO THERE'S GOING TO BE

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TO CHANGE THE LOCATION AND PICK UP ANGEL. SO I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THIS HERE, YOU KNOW, AND JUST SORT OF BACK UP PEOPLE. YOU KNOW, NOT KNOWING YOU HAVE TEENAGERS NOT KNOWING THE LOOP AROUND THE BUILDING. I'M TRYING TO THINK OF MY SON, WHO IS JUST STARTING TO DRIVE THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. UM BUT I GUESS YOU KNOW YOU ALL FEEL THAT IT'S GOING TO BE ALLEVIATED BY THE MOVING OF THE WINDOW AND YOU KNOW JUST THE OVERALL EXPERIENCE THAT YOU'VE DESIGNED FOLLOWING UP ON SARAH'S WE BELIEVE IT BECAUSE WE STAND. LOT OF TIME IN REAL LIFE.

RELATIONS ENGINEERING PUBLIC WORKING ON PAPER, BUT ACTUALLY HIRING PEOPLE THAT ACT AS CUSTOMERS. ACTUALLY PUTTING IN ORDER THE BEST PRICE. PREPARING MARK UP RECIPES. TO THAT TO THAT POINT IS THAT YOUR SENSE BASED ON YOUR TESTING. YOU JUST DESCRIBED THAT THE MORE LIKELY ENTRANCE TO THE RESTAURANT IS GOING TO BE OFF WOODCREST WAY AS OPPOSED TO HEADING UP THE PRIVATE DRIVE AND TURNING IN. THERE. YEAH. AND. NOW THOSE COMING FROM 62 ARE GOING TO ARE GOING TO COME IN THE WAY SARAH IS SUGGESTING. CANADA IS GOING TO BE BORN. THAT WAS A COMMENT FROM THE CITY TRAFFIC ENGINEER TO ENSURE THAT IF TRAFFIC IS COMING IN FROM 62 THAT THEY CANNOT MAKE THIS LEFT TURN INTO HERE, SO THEY ARE FORCED TO GO DOWN AND THEN ENTER IN THIS WAY.

AND THEN THEY WOULD CIRCULATE THE SITE AND ENTER THE DRIVE THROUGH DOING THIS DIRECTION. SO THE ONLY THINK I MISSPOKE A LITTLE BIT, BUT WHAT I WAS TRYING TO GET AT IS THAT'S SOMEBODY COULD GO DOWN THE PRIVATE DRIVE AND GO IN, BUT IT WOULD SEEM MORE LIKELY THEY GO THE OTHER WAY. IS THERE GOING TO BE SOME SIGNINGS THAT WOULD DIRECT CUSTOMERS THAT MAY BE COMING? ALONG WOODCREST. OR MAYBE I'M NOT SURE IF THAT IF THAT PRIVATE DRIVE PRIVATE DRIVE, GO PAST WOULD CRUST INTERSECTION INTO WHERE THE HOTEL AREA IS IT DOES. IS THERE GOING TO BE SIGNAGE FOR SOMEONE COMING FROM THE HOTEL TO DIRECT THEM TO GO RIGHT AND GO THE MORE PREFERRED WAY ACCESS? OKAY. IS IT GOING TO BE SAFE CORNER OF PRIVATE DRIVER WOULD WOULD CRUSHED WAY TO DIRECT DIRECT THEM THAT WAY, OR IS IT MORE ON THAT WE WOULD HAVE THAT ENTER EXIT SIGNAGE POINT WITH IMPRESSIVE WAY? OKAY? ANYTHING ELSE SITTING HERE, ROSE. MOTHERS WHO HAVE HAD TEENAGERS WERE TOTALLY ENVISIONING THEM. GOING IN PRIVATE DRIVE. AND DECIDING THAT THEY'RE GOING TO WAIT UNTIL THEY CAN CUT INTO THAT LINE BECAUSE THEY THINK IT'S A RIGHT ONLY SO THAT MEANS THEY GET TO TURN INTO THAT. TO THAT, AND I'M JUST WONDERING IF WOULDN'T BE A GOOD IDEA TO HAVE SOMETHING THERE THAT POINTS THEM TO DRIVE THROUGH IS THAT WAY BEFORE THEY ENTERED. FROM THAT FROM THAT ENTRANCE, THEY SHOULD GO AROUND THE WOODCREST ENTER THE DRIVE.

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AND I JUST I'M CONCERNED ABOUT ARE WE CREATING A PROBLEM FOR USAGE OF THAT? PARCEL. IF WE APPROVE, YOU KNOW MORE THAN MORE THAN 50 50 SPLIT OF IT. YEAH, I THINK THAT'S A VERY VALID QUESTION. I WOULD SAY THAT WOULD FALL TO THE DEVELOPER. LET'S SAY CERTAINLY IF DEVELOPERS PARCELING THIS, THEY FEEL CONFIDENT THEY COULDN'T FIND A USER THAT WILL FIT INTO THAT SPACE. UH CERTAINLY, YOU KNOW, IF AND WHEN THAT SITE DEVELOPS, IF THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION WILL HAVE TO EVALUATE THE USE IN THE NUMBER OF VARIANTS IS AT THAT TIME IF IT REFLECTS THAT THAT SMALLER SPACE LET ME ASK YOU THIS. WHEN WOULD A CIVIL AND A RESTAURANT TO WHEN HE'S FIT THERE. I DON'T THINK A WENDY'S I'M NOT SURE IF HOW DAIRY QUEEN COMPARISON SIZE AND MIGHT BE SLIGHTLY SMALLER THAN THE SITES , BUT 7/10. YEAH I HONESTLY COULDN'T SAY IF IT HOW ABOUT THE POPEYE'S WITH THE POPEYE'S OF FIT IN THERE? I THINK THE POPEYE'S IS BIGGER THAN BOTH THESE SITES. WHAT ABOUT THE DUNCAN THAT WE APPROVED A WHILE BACK? OKAY, THAT. YEAH THAT ONE'S FAIRLY SMALL THAT MIGHT THAT MIGHT BE AROUND THAT SIZE.

THAT WAS ONE OF MY MAIN CONCERNS. WHEN I LOOK ALL THAT WAS THE ONLY ONE. I DON'T HAVE THAT MANY CONCERNS. THAT WAS MY MAIN CONCERN WAS THAT WE CREATING A PROBLEM. DOWN THE ROAD FOR A VACANT LOT THAT'S GOING TO BE THERE FOR YEARS. YEAH I THINK AGAIN. IT'S A VERY VALID CONCERN. WE ASKED OURSELVES THAT SAME QUESTION, BUT IF IN ONE THAT SLIGHTEST DEVELOPED, IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE EVALUATED BASED ON ITS OWN MERITS, HOPEFULLY THE OTHER.

IT'S MAYBE THAT MIGHT BE A BIGGER CHALLENGE FOR THE DEVELOPER TO FIND THAT RIGHT USER FOR THAT SPACE. UM BUT CERTAINLY I THINK YOU KNOW, GIVEN THE CORRIDOR AND STRATEGIC PLANS RECOMMENDATIONS YOU KNOW, MAYBE IT IS A DIFFERENT TYPE OF LIKE, DRIVE THROUGH A RESTAURANT USER. SO MAYBE, UM, CAN YOU THINK OF ONE STEVE AND I'M NOT GOING TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT.

I'M JUST KIND OF AS WE SORT OF TICKLE THIS ISSUE OUT. I MEAN, YOUR EXPERIENCE OF THIS TOM HAVE A COMMENT ON APPEARS. LOVE TO HEAR. TALK SCARLET ON THAT TOM RUBY FROM THE NORMANDY COMPANY.

UH, WE HAVE UM CONTINUE TO MARKET THAT PEACE IN THE MIDDLE OF THERE ARE QUITE A FEW USERS THAT STILL PUT IN THERE. I THINK IT'S PROBABLY UNLIKELY THAT IT WOULD BE A RESTAURANT. WENDY'S OKAY. IMAGINE A DRY CLEANER. IT WOULD HAVE TO DRIVE. THRU IS ONE HIGHLIGHT. THERE ARE SEVERAL OTHERS THAT WE HAVE CONTINUED TO MARKET. IT. MARKET THE PROPERTY FOR NOTHING THAT AT THE MOMENT YET HOPEFULLY, WE WON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE CUTTING BEARINGS PROCESS IN ORDER TO THAT WORKS.

OKAY? I APPRECIATE THAT. AND THE DRIVE THAT COMES OFF WOODCREST WAY. ONE OF MY QUESTIONS WAS IT LOOKS LIKE IT OVERLAPS THE ADJACENT PARCEL. BUT THIS IS ONE PARCEL, SO IT WOULD BE SCARED.

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AND AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE DESIGN OF THE BUILDING, THE SIGNATURES ARE DOES FEEL SMALL IN THE BUILDING ITSELF ALREADY FURTHER REDUCE IT. QUITE POTENTIALLY GOING TO GET LOST IN THE DESIGN, WHICH IS WHY WE DIDN'T REQUEST THE PARENT. YEAH BUT I THINK IT'S SUBSTANTIALLY LARGE PRINT SUPPORT IT. AND THEN THE MENU BOARD. I'M SURE YOU'VE ALSO HAD A 30. UM 32, BUT IF YOU PUT IT RIGHT. THE SIZE OF IT. I THINK YOU COULD MEET THAT VARIANCE AS WELL. I DON'T THINK YOU NEED A VARIANCE FOR THAT. I'M SURE YOU'VE GOT SOLUTIONS WITHIN YOUR 7000 SQUARE THREE. SCORE FLEET THAT DO THAT. I CAN'T SPEAK TO WHETHER WE DO OR NOT. I KNOW THAT WE GENERALLY PUSH FOR OUR STANDARD MENU BOARD SIZE BECAUSE IT'S A STATIC MENU BOARD AND IT'S SUPPORTED THROUGH.

MARKETING PRODUCTION, SO HAVING A CONSISTENT SIZE THROUGHOUT THE CHAIN OBSESSED WITH SPEED TO MARKET AND GETTING IT DONE A LOT QUICKER, AND THAT'S WHY WE APPLIED FOR THAT PERIOD BECAUSE IT'S A STANDARD SIZE IT SUBSTANTIALLY LARGER, SO I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT. AND THEN THE BACKS THE FURTHEST THE SETBACK ON WOODCREST. WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING THAT SMALL ANYWHERE AND YOU ALSO HAVE A SIDEWALK THERE. I THINK THAT BECOMES DANGEROUS ACTUALLY TO PEDESTRIANS, AND THAT'S A PROBLEM AS WELL. FOR THE SLIGHTLY OFF JUST LOOKED AT IT.

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IT'S VISIBLE WHEN YOU COME OUT OF THE HOTEL. IT'S VISIBLE WHEN YOU'RE BACK IN THAT AREA. IT'S JUST CREATES A LOT OF VISUAL POLLUTION IN THAT AREA. IT'S LIKE I DON'T WANT TO GIVE EVERY TENANT HAD THAT. I DON'T THINK THIS WOULD BE AS AN ATTRACTIVE DEVELOPMENT OR AN AREA. AND I DON'T WANT TO SET A PRECEDENT THAT WOULD GO THAT MUCH OF AN EXTREME. YOU KNOW IF YOU WERE ASKING FOR, YOU KNOW 34 INSTEAD OF 32. THAT MIGHT BE ONE THING, BUT WHEN YOU'RE TALKING 50% BIGGER, THAT'S A PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL JUMP FROM WHAT WE'VE SEEN IN OTHER TENANTS IN THAT AREA. I MEAN, I THINK THIS IS A GREAT FIT FOR THIS AREA TO HAVE A WINDIES CONDITIONAL HISTORY PROBLEM WITH THAT. I JUST THINK WHEN WE START TO GET BIG AND OVER, SCALED LIKE THAT IT BECOMES A DETERRENT FROM WHAT THE AESTHETIC OF THIS DEVELOPMENT SHOULD BE. HOW. HOW IT MAYBE END UP. MATERIALS BUT HOW HIGH OFF THE GROUND WILL THE TOP OF THE MAN YOU FORK SIGN B.

SO WE'RE SEVEN ABOUT 7373. OKAY. THANK YOU. PRETTY OBVIOUS IF YOU LOOK AT IT, I GUESS, UM IS THERE. IS THERE SOME SCREENING REQUIREMENT THAT WE COULD TALK ABOUT TO HELP SCREEN IT FROM? THE HOTEL IN WOODCREST. OR WOULD THIS OR OR HOW HIGH WILL THE SCREENING. THAT'S. PLANNED WHAT IT BE, AND IT WOULD BE SUFFICIENT. TO HELP SCREEN IT. THERE IS, UM. TREES ALONG WOODCREST WAY. THAT WOULD SCREEN IT FROM THE HOTEL. UM BUT THOSE ARE GOING TO BE TREES. WITH WHAT RIGHT, NOT EVERGREEN WITH WITH THE CANOPY, SO LOOKING THROUGH UNLESS IT'S A BUSH, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY GOING TO SCREEN BUT IT MAY PARTIALLY SCREEN DEPENDING ON TALL. IT IS, IF IT'S SEVEN FT. TALL IT'LL BE SCREENING. THERE WILL ALSO BE, UM HEAD ROW MHM SCREENING THE PARKING LOT FROM WOODCREST WAY. SO CHELSEA. I THINK THE REQUIREMENT IS THREE. 36 INCHES.

SO THE HEAD ROW WILL BE ABOUT 3.5 FT, WHICH WILL BE BELOW THE CANOPY OF THE TREES. BECAUSE THAT ASSIST YOU AT ALL IN TERMS OF THEIR CONCERNS ABOUT THE 50% BIGGER THAN WHAT THE STANDARD IS. THAT'S I MEAN, IF YOU TOOK LIKE THE TOP PART OFF AND YOU KIND OF DOWNSIZED IT, IT'S JUST FROM MY POINT OF VIEW. IT'S LIKE AN EXTREME VARIANTS. NOT JUST A SLIGHTLY SIMILAR, BUT LET ME ASK THIS IF IT WAS ME. I STOP THIS IF THE MENU BOARD SIGN MET CODE HOW TALL WOULD IT BE AND HOW WHY WOULD IT UM, IT COULD VERY WHAT'S THE HIGHEST IT COULD BE. I BELIEVE THERE ARE NO DIMENSIONAL REQUIREMENTS, JUST AREA REQUIREMENT. I'M TRYING TO GET A SENSE. THAT QUESTION MAYBE IS DESIGNED TO GET A SENSE OF HOW MUCH MORE SIGN ARE WE SEEING BECAUSE OF THE VARIANCE THEY'RE REQUESTING VERSUS WHAT WE WOULD SEE IF THEY JUST CAME IN WITH ASSIGNMENT BETTER. DID YOU SET UP GETTING AT MHM. HMM YEAH, IT'S REALLY YOU COMPARE IT TO LIKE POPEYE SIGN OR THE DAIRY QUEEN SIGN. IT'S LIKE AND THAT THERE'S A LITTE SIGN TOO RIGHT? IT'S GOING TO BE ESPECIALLY NICE GOING TO REALLY STAND OUT. I WILL SAY THAT YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A DIGITAL OPTION AS WELL. THAT WOULD FALL WITHIN THE SQUARE PRUDENTIAL REQUIREMENTS. I BELIEVE I NEED TO CHECK THAT.

OBVIOUSLY THAT'S A HIGHER END. THAT'S NOT LEVEL FOR US, AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD BE WILLING TO CONSIDER. AND THAT THE DIGITAL WOULD REQUIRE A VARIANT. THAT WOULD THAT WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE. IT'S MORE LIKE THAT. I REMEMBER ON THE POPEYE SIGN. WE WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THE DIGITAL ASPECT OF IT, AND WE WANTED IT SCREEN BECAUSE OF THE WE FELT THAT THE DIGITAL ASPECT WAS GOING TO BE BRIGHTER. AND MORE. OKAY, I THINK. OKAY? RIGHT REMEMBER WHETHER THE POPEYES WAS

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IT WAS DUNCAN OR POPEYE'S, BECAUSE WE CONSIDER THEM ON THE SAME DAY, AND I DON'T THINK IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN BOTH, ACTUALLY. YEAH BUT I KNOW TURKEY HILL ACROSS THE STREETS FROM THAT PRIVATE DRIVE WHEN THE CAR WASH WENT IN THE CARWASH SIGNAGE BECAUSE THAT WAS BETWEEN THE BUILDING AND US 62. I BELIEVE THE PLANNING COMMISSION PUT A CONDITION OF APPROVAL REQUIRING ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPE SCREENING. AND I THINK THAT WAS SUBJECT TO STAFF APPROVAL, AND SO STAFF IS ABLE TO GO BACK AND PROVIDE SOME IMMEDIATE SCREENING ALONG US 62 FOR THAT DRIVE THROUGH, UM, SIGNAGE, I THINK HISTORICALLY THE CITY STAFF AND PLANNING COMMISSIONERS PRIORITIZE US 62.

IN THIS CASE AS WELL, YOU KNOW, IF THERE IS A CONCERN FROM 62, CERTAINLY MORE LANDSCAPING, I THINK COULD BE ADDED EITHER SIMILAR OR JUST IN GENERAL TO WHAT WAS DONE AT TURKEY HILL SITES. I THINK AS FAR AS I CAN INTERNAL TO THE SITE GOES, I MEAN, THEY'LL HAVE THINK CERTAINLY WILL BE VIEWABLE FROM WOODCREST WAY. BUT SINCE IT'S A PRIVATE DRIVE, UM WE'VE HAVE NOT VIEWED THAT WITH THE SAME I WOULD GUESS PRIORITY. MAYBE IT'S THE WORD AS US 62 THERE, BUT CERTAINLY THERE'S A LOT OF, UM OTHER BARRIERS SUCH AS, LIKE. THE DUMPSTER. UM AND OTHER OTHER THINGS THAT MIGHT BLOCK WE USED BETWEEN SITES THAT ALIGN ACROSS THE STREET FROM EACH OTHER ALONG WOODCREST WAY. IT'S JUST IT'S SUCH A HUGE VARIANCE FROM REQUIRED. WHO DECIDED WE WANTED THAT UP FRONT. THEN WE THAT'S WHAT WE WANTED, RIGHT. SO TO DO 50% BIGGER IS A PRETTY EXTREME QUESTION ABOUT FINDING. MHM. AMENABLE. TO I PERSONALLY. BUT I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE OTHER MEMBERS. WHAT SIZE WOULD THAT BE FIT IN? REQUIREMENTS. YEAH IT'S REALLY GOOD. I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT SQUARE FOOTAGE, BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT IT WOULD BE NEAR OR UNDER THE 32 SQUARE FEET. WELL THE INTERESTING QUESTION HERE ACTUALLY IS WHETHER WE DON'T KNOW UNTIL WE VOTE. THERE'S FOUR MEMBERS, ONE IS EXPRESSED. OBJECTION YOU MIGHT GET THREE VOTES AS IT IS, YOU MIGHT LIKE IT FOR BRUCE WHITE JASON'S MIND. UM. WHAT. WE COULD. ALSO WOULD. WOULD YOU BE AMENABLE TO AGREEING TO ADDITIONAL SCREENING OF THAT SIGN FROM WOODCREST SUBJECT TO STAFF APPROVAL SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DID AT TURKEY HILL, WE WOULD BE A MINIMAL TO EXPLORING THAT, AND THEN WOULD IT? WOULD IT REQUIRE A VARIANCE THAT THEY CAME BACK IN AND WANTED TO DO THE OTHER SIGN DIGITAL? YES, MHM. DIGITAL RULES REQUIRE A VARIANCE, COULD WE COULD WE LET THEM DO EITHER ONE SUBJECT TO STAFF APPROVAL AS LONG AS THEY PUT SCREENING IN FOR THE BIGGER ONE? MAYBE SCREENING IN FOR BOTH. MAYBE IS THAT OKAY? CAN WE JUST I DON'T KNOW. YOU'RE SHAKING YOUR HEAD.

MAYBE I DON'T KNOW. I'M NOT SURE IF YOU DO NEED TO REWARD I THINK THAT IT WOULD BE CERTAINLY BE CLEANER IF YEAH, VOTED ON THE ONE THAT WAS PRESENTED RATHER THAN EITHER OR SO I WOULD GUESS I WOULD. I'M NOT SURE WHETHER YOU CAN OR NOT, BUT I WOULD PROBABLY ADVISED NOT TO DO THAT BECAUSE I THINK IT'S CLEANER TO PRESENT IT AS AS IS ONE OR THE OTHER. MORE LIKELY TO CREATE PROBLEMS DOWN THE ROAD. IF WE APPROVE IT THAT WAY, THEN WE AGREE TONIGHT WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE. UM I'M GOING TO ADD AS ANOTHER CONDITION. ADDITIONAL SCREENING OF THE THEN YOU BOARD . SIGN. FROM. WOULD CRUST. WHERE IS WHAT IS TRUST WAY? YEAH, UM, SUBJECT TO STAFF APPROVAL. IS THAT CLEAR ENOUGH? WHAT I'M HEARING FROM YOU IS YOU PREFER TO HAVE MANY MORE YOU CAME IN WITH CORRECT. TODAY? YES I MEAN , YOU'RE YOU'RE AMENABLE TO ADDITIONAL SCREENING. MINIMAL TRADITION. EITHER WAY. WELL, YOU'VE BEEN WITH ADDITIONAL SCREENING, WHICH MAY HELP ASSUAGE BRUCE'S CONCERNS. I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY ELSE HAS ANY. BUT IF YOU'RE WILLING TO DO THAT, WE'LL PUT THAT IN AS A CONDITION AND WE CAN WE CAN SEE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE WHAT WE

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AND I THINK IT'S TIGHT. UM YES, STAFF WOULD JUST BE MOVING IT FORWARD. WE WOULD BE LOOKING TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING'S STILL ALIGNS WITH THE DEVELOPMENT. UM. TO THE EAST BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN AND ALL OF THE UM, DEVELOPMENTS ARE IN LINE WITH EACH OTHER, SO WE OBVIOUSLY JUST DON'T WANT THEM WAY OUT IN FRONT OF EVERYBODY. SO UM, MOVING IT FORWARD TO HAVE MORE ROOM IN THE BACK WOULD BE GOOD. AS LONG AS THEY'RE NOT MOVING IT WAY OUT IN FRONT OF YOU KNOW WHERE DAIRY QUEEN AND WE'RE VALVOLINE JUST GOT APPROVED TO GO. BETTER WE'RE GETTING INTO TROUBLE AGAIN. HERE HMM? THANK YES, I WOULD. I WOULDN'T. I WOULD STICK WITH THEM. WHAT'S PRESENTED OKAY? WE DON'T WANT TO GO DOWN THE SLIPPERY SLOPE OF DOING THIS ALL THE TIME, SO I WOULD STICK WITH WHAT'S WELL, WHAT'S THAT? PLUS WE'D BE DOING THE SAME THING WHEN YOU SAY LIKE AND MOVE IT UP A LITTLE BIT AS LONG AS IT LINES UP AND AS LONG AS STAFF APPROVES, AND I JUST IT'S A LITTLE WISHY WASHY. YEAH, I THINK IT'S I AGREE. OKAY? I UNDERSTAND. YEAH LOOK AT BEND IT. TELL ME IF I'M WRONG HERE. I THINK THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS GIVEN STAFF THAT WE WAY FOR PREVIOUS SITES TO MAKE THESE MINOR MODIFICATIONS AND ADJUSTMENTS BECAUSE I THINK YOU KNOW, MOVING THE SITE UP IS ONE THING. I MEAN, MAYBE THERE'S OTHER AREAS WHERE WE CAN YOU KNOW, FIND ROOM WHERE THEY'RE STILL MEETING CODE REQUIREMENTS WILL MEETING YOU KNOW, BY AND LARGE, THE SAME CIRCULATION PATTERN AND OVERALL DEVELOPMENT STYLE. UM BUT, YOU KNOW, LOOKING FOR THREE. FT. I THINK YOU KNOW POTENTIALLY COULD BE A COMBINATION OF THINGS AS WELL. IS THERE SUFFICIENT? UM LEEWAY IN THE APPLICATION AS IT'S WRITTEN NOW FOR STAFF TO DO THAT, OR DO WE HAVE TO WRITE SOMETHING INTO THE AS A CONDITION ORDER. SOMETHING ELSE TO GIVE YOU THAT. I THINK I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE WHAT THE CONDITION IS NOW BUT I THINK CONDITION STATING THAT THE FIVE FT TREE LAWN AND SIDEWALK BE PROVIDED. UM AND THAT ANY SITE MODIFICATIONS TO ACCOMMODATE THAT ARE SUBJECT TO STAFF APPROVAL. YOU RE OKAY WITH THAT . I THINK THAT PROBABLY IS FINE IF IT'S LIMITED THOSE ISSUES AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS, OKAY, PROPOSED. RE SITUATING EVERYTHING. ANYTHING ELSE FROM THE APP. AND IS THERE ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC? I SEE THERE'S THREE OTHER FOLKS, BUT YOU'RE WEARING A WONDROUS SWEATSHIRT. SO I ASSUME YOU'RE WITH THAT WE'RE ALL TOGETHER. WE'RE ALL TOGETHER AND I DON'T SEE ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE. BUT IF ANYBODY WANTS TO SPEAK NOW IS YOUR TIME. OKAY HERE. NONE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF FOR THE APPLICANT. SO WE SHOULD START WITH THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN. ALL RIGHT? YES. ALRIGHT, LET'S UM. LET'S MOVE APPROVAL. I MOVE APPROVAL OR EXCUSE ME MOVE ACCEPTANCE OF STAFF REPORTS AND RELATED DOCUMENTS INTO THE RECORD. FOR THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN. 09 2023 2ND 2ND. MR WALLACE? YES YES, MR LARSON? YES? MR SHELL. GOOD I'LL GO AHEAD AND MAKE THE MOTION. I MOVE. UH FOR APPROVAL OF APPLICATION. FDP 09 2023 BASED ON THE FINDINGS AND THE STAFF REPORT AND THE CONDITIONS LISTEN TO THE STAFF REPORT, SUBJECT TO STAFF APPROVAL WITH THE OMISSION OF. CONDITION A, WHICH WE ARE TOLD, HAS BEEN SATISFIED AND THE ADDITION OF CONDITION 10 WHICH REQUIRED WHICH PROVIDES THAT THE CURB CUT RADIO. I WILL BE REDUCED WHERE POSSIBLE, CONSISTENT WITH THE DIAGRAM. UH UNDER CITY LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT LETTERHEAD, SUBJECT TO STAFF APPROVAL CONDITION 11 THAT THE 3/4 RELIEF REQUIREMENTS BE MET FOR THE SIGNS AT THE TIME OF PERMITTING FOR US 62 NORTH ELEVATION WALL SIGNED THE PRIVATE PRIVATE DRIVE WEST ELEVATION WALL SIGN AND THE EAST

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ALL RIGHT. THAT'S THE MOVIE. ADDRESSING THE SETBACK WAS EVERY TRYING TO INCREASE THE SETBACK OR ITS REPRESENTATIVE, AS IS THAT THE SEVEN FT ALONG WITH DRESS WOMEN. MANY OF THESE SEPARATE ARE YOU TRYING TO COMBINE JUST DOING THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN BECAUSE I THINK SEPARATE VARIANCES ARE SEPARATE. SO IS THERE A SECOND. SECOND, BUT QUICK QUESTION THAT PART ABOUT ADDING THE ADDITIONAL SCREENING SHOULD THAT GO WITH THE VARIANTS FOR THE SIGNS? OR DOES THAT GO WITH THE FINAL? WELL, I THINK THE SIGNAGE IS IN THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN. BUT IF I GOT THE CONDITION IN THE WRONG SPOT STAFF LET ME KNOW. YEAH I WOULD SAY EITHER WAY, IF YOU FIND SAYS, MAKING IT PART OF THE FINAL THAT I'VE BEEN PLAYING THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED, REGARDLESS. OKAY OKAY, I'LL SECOND THAT VERY GOOD. MR WALLACE? YES, MR SCHELL? YES, MR LARSON? YES? MS BRIGGS? YES. ALL RIGHT, MOVING ON TO THE SAVE THE VARIANCES FOR LAST UH UM CONDITIONAL USE AND MOVE. TO ACCEPT STAFF REPORTS AND RELATED DOCUMENTS INTO THE RECORD FOR CONDITIONAL USE EU 10 2023. IS THERE A 2ND 2ND? WRONG MR. WALLACE MISS BRIGGS, MR. LARSON MR SCHELL? YES? IS THERE A MOTION ON CONDITIONAL USE EU 10 2023 TO APPROVE. SEE YOU, 10 2023. BASED ON THE FINDINGS OF THE STAFF REPORT, WITH THE CONDITIONS LISTED IN THE STAFF REPORT, SUBJECT TO STAFF APPROVAL. SECOND SECOND. ROLL SHELL. YES MISS BRIGGS. MR. LARSON MR WALLACE? YES? UM ON THE VARIANCES, UM, MOVED TO ACCEPT STAFF REPORTS AND RELATED DOCTORS DOCUMENTS INTO THE RECORD FOR VARIANTS V A R 15 2023. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND MR WALLACE. YES YES, MR LARSON. MR SHELL. YES. WOULD YOU LIKE A BRIEF STATEMENT FOR THE REASON FOR VOTING NOW? I WILL. YEAH THE SIGNAGE OF THE FRONT OF 42 INCHES. I DON'T WANT TO SET A PRECEDENCE THAT TALL OF A SIGNAGE WHEN WE HAVE 24 INCHES. I DON'T WANT TO SET A PRECEDENT FOR THAT LARGE OF A MENU BOARD. AND I BELIEVE THAT THIS SETBACK ALONG WOODCREST WAY AT SEVEN. FT IS TOO TIGHT. UM AND IT'S NOT A SAFE EDITION. WELL, WAIT A SECOND. THIS WAS THAT WAS JUST ON THE DOCUMENTS ON THE STAFF REPORT. I THOUGHT WE WERE DOING A VARIANCES. WE ARE, BUT THAT'S JUST THE DOCUMENTS DOCUMENTS, OKAY? DO YOU WANT TO WITHDRAW YOUR VOTE AND VOTE FOR ALLOWING THE STAFF REPORTS INTO THE YES SAY YES. WE'RE GONNA GET THE VARIANCE. SORRY THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET VARIANTS IN A MINUTE, BECAUSE I HAVE A QUESTION FOR BEN ON HOW WE NEED TO DO THAT. I THOUGHT WE WERE ARE MET. YES THE DOCUMENTS INTO THIS, OKAY. SO BRUCE IS WITHDRAWING HIS OBJECTION OR IS NO VOTE ON THE ACCEPTANCE OF THE STAFF REPORTS INTO THE RECORD, AND SO BY MY COUNT, IT'S FOR A ALL RIGHT. UM . IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE MAY BE SOME OBJECTION TO ONE OR MORE OF THE VARIANCES. SHOULD WE DO THEM SINGLY ONE BY ONE. UM FOR A CLEANER RECORD, BAN OR HOSPITAL SO YOU CAN DO IT EITHER WAY, BUT IT'S PROBABLY CLEANER TO DO IT ONE BY ONE AND ADDRESS EACH OF THOSE ISSUES AS THEY COME UP. WELL WE LIKE CLEANLINESS HERE, SO WE'LL GO EXACTLY RIGHT. WE'LL GO WITH CLEAN. ALL RIGHT. UM. SO WHOEVER MAKES THE MOTION. LOOKS LIKE THE VARIANCE IS UNDER THE APPLICATION ARE LETTERED A THROUGH F, SO WE WILL. WE WILL MOVE ON EACH REQUESTED VARIANTS.

UM BY LETTER AND DESCRIPTION. SO I MOVED TO OUT, GO AHEAD AND MAKE THE MOTION TO MAKE IT SIMPLER. OUR MOVE TO APPROVED SURE. UM. THE APPLICATION FOR VARIANTS. THEY ARE 15 2023, A.

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MR LARSON? YES. MISS BRIGGS. MOVED TO APPROVE VARIANTS. V A R 15 2023 C AS IN CAT. UM. WHICH WOULD ALLOW FOR ENCROACHMENT INTO THE 20 FT PAVEMENTS SET BACK ALONG WOULD CRUST WAY AND I BELIEVE THE CONDITION APPLIES TO THIS, UM THIS SUBSECTION VARIANTS CORRECT. THAT IS CORRECT. ALL RIGHT? IS THERE A SECOND SECOND. MR WALLACE? YES. BRIGGS? YES. MR SHELL. MR LARSON? NO. BRUCE IF WE COULD JUST HAVE A BRIEF EXPLANATION FOR YOUR NO VOTE ON THIS PARTICULAR VARIANTS. THIS WOULD BE THE TIGHTEST SETBACK THAT WOULD HAPPEN IN THE DEVELOPMENT HAS A SIDEWALK THAT GOES ALONG THERE. WHICH I BELIEVE WOULD BECOME A SAFETY PUBLIX IDEA.

SURE. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU MOVED TO APPROVE VARIANTS VR 15 2023 D AS IN DOG, WHICH IS THE VARIANTS THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR A DRIVE. THRU MENU BOARD SIGN TO BE UP TO 48 SQUARE FEET WHEN THE CODE PERMITS 32 SQUARE FEET. IS THERE A 2ND 2ND? ROLL PLEASE, MR WALLACE. YES MISS BRIGGS? YES SHELL? YES, MR LARSON. AGAIN. BRUCE IF YOU WOULD KINDLY GIVE US A BRIEF EXPLANATION FOR YOUR NO VOTE. I THINK THAT WE HAVE A STANDARD THAT'S BEING MET BY OTHER TENANTS WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT AND THAT THIS IS EXCESSIVE SENSE OF PRECEDENT THAT I WOULDN'T LET US SUPPORT.

THANK YOU JUST EXPAND BECAUSE I DON'T LOVE THESE TYPES OF VARIANCES. BUT IN THIS CASE, I AM APPROVING IT FOR THE FACT THAT THEY COULD HAVE ANOTHER SIGN OF ABOUT 32 THAT THEY'RE NOT DOING, TOO IS NOT FACING ANY MAJOR HIGHWAY AND THREE THEY COULD READ THE ADDITIONAL SCREEN. FAIR ENOUGH. THANK YOU. FOR THAT MOVED TO APPROVE VARIANTS V. A. R. 15 2023 E. TO ALLOW FOR MAXIMUM LETTERING KIND OF A WALL. SIGN TO BE 42 INCHES TALL WHEN THE CODE PERMITS A MAXIMUM OF 24 INCHES. IS THERE A SECOND SECOND, IT. WALLACE YES, MR LARSON. MS BRIGGS? YES. MR SCHELL? YES. BRUCE AGAIN, IF YOU WOULD KINDLY GIVE US AN EXPLANATION, OR PROVIDE ONE FOR THE RECORD. I GUESS IT'S NOT FOR US. IT'S INCONSISTENT WITH OTHER TENANTS THAT HAVE SIGNAGE THAT ARE OF THE MEAT. THE CODE. AND THEN IT'S AN EXCESSIVE AND NOT A HARDSHIP AND RUNNING THE BUSINESS. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. I MOVED TO APPROVE VARIANTS B A R 15 2023 F, WHICH WOULD ALLOW UP TO FIVE COLORS ONTO WALL SIGNS. WHEN CODE PERMITS. ONLY FOUR. IS THERE A SECOND SECOND ROLL, PLEASE, MR BRIGGS. I MEAN, I'M SORRY, MR WALLACE. EMOTIONS YES. BRIGGS YES, MR SCHELL? YES, MR LARSON. VERY GOOD. DID WE GET EVERYTHING? AND IS IT CLEAR? GOOD LUCK EVERYTHING THAT THE CONDITION WAS ATTACHED TO VARIANTS. D C SORRY, C AS IN CAT. THANK YOU FOR THAT.

CLARIFICATION AND AGAIN. THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU. GOOD LUCK. I THINK THAT'S IT. APPRECIATE YOU, MR CHAIRMAN. MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION. THANKS FOR YOUR TIME. I JUST WANT TO SAY QUICKLY. THANK YOU FOR COMMENTING ON WORKING WITH OUR STAFF. BECAUSE THEY ARE GREAT TO WORK WITH. I DON'T THINK THEY GET ENOUGH GRATITUDE FOR ALL THE WORK THAT THEY DO. SO THANK YOU.

YEAH. WELCOME TO NEW ORLEANS. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, UM WE FIND MY AGENDA. ONE I BROKE. I

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I DON'T KNOW. MICHAEL.

YEAH.

YEAH.

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JUST JUST LITTLE TAP. ALL RIGHT. I'M GONNA CALL THE MEETING BACK TO ORDER WE ADJOURNED AT 9 20.

IT'S ABOUT 9 27 MEETING IN FLORIDA. NEXT CASES, UM CASE. F PL 52,014 CONDITION OF APPROVAL MODIFICATION TO THE, UM. INNOVATION, CAMPUS WAY FINAL, PLATT WE CAN HEAR FROM STAFF.

ALRIGHT I GET TO PRESENT THIS ONE. I THINK MAYBE PARTIALLY BECAUSE OF HOW STEVIE, I PRESENTED THE ORIGINAL APPLICATION BACK IN 2014. THERE'S ALSO WAS OCCURRED AT THE SERVICE DEPARTMENT BECAUSE THIS IS WHEN WE ARE RENOVATING THIS ROOM RIGHT HERE. SO UM YEAH. SO THIS WAS LIKE THE ONLY MEETING WHEN ONE OF THE FEW MEETINGS WE HAD POINTING COMMISSION LINES OF THE SERVICES. THIS ROOM WAS COMPLETELY GUTTED OR, FOR THE MOST PART GOOD. BUT SO I GUESS, UH, AND IN ALIGNMENT WITH THAT I'M GOING TO GIVE A BRIEF HISTORY OF THE CASE OF THIS CASE IN THIS CONDITION PROVIDES IN CONTEXT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION. SO NINE YEARS AGO AS PART OF A FINAL PLATT FOR A STREETS, UM, EXTENSION THE PLANNING COMMISSION PUT A CONDITION OF APPROVAL, SAYING THERE CAN BE NO LEFT TURNS AND THAT TRUCKS ARE PROHIBITED ALONG THIS SECTION OF HARRISON ROAD BETWEEN INNOVATION, CAMPUS WAY AND JUG STREET TO THE NORTH. AND SO THIS LIVES PURELY AS A CONDITION OF APPROVAL. AND SO THAT'S WHY THERE'S NO PLATINUM PACKET TODAY AND SO STATUS REQUESTING THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION REMOVE THAT CONDITION OF APPROVAL AND ALLOW FOR HARRISON ROAD TO BE A FULL ACCESS ROAD. SO A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND BACK IN 2014. UM THERE IT IS. SO THIS USED TO BE INNOVATION, CAMPUS WAY COURT.

THIS WAS A CALL TO SACK ROAD AND SO ALL OF THESE BUILDINGS INSIDE SMITH'S MILL LOOP FED OFF OF THIS COURT, AND THEN THE CITY DESIGNED IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE LANDOWNER AT THE TIME. THIS EXTENSION, IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO SEE HERE TO EXTEND INNOVATION CAMPUS WAY TO SMITH'S MILL LOOP ROAD. AND THEN ALL THE WAY TO HARRISON ROAD. AND SO THIS WAS ALSO HURT BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION AT THE SAME TIME AS A REZONING, WHICH WAS SHOWN IN RED HERE AND JUST FOR CONTEXT, BUT IT'S INTERESTING, YOU KNOW, FOR THE CONTEXT IN THE CONDITION MAKES SENSE AT THE TIME. SO THIS GRAY LINE HERE SHOWS THE EXTENT OF THE NEW ALBANY CORPORATE BOUNDARY IN THE BUSINESS PARK.

SO AGAIN, THIS IS SMITH'S MILL LOOP ROAD. THERE WAS NOTHING ELSE OUT THERE. SO WE THE BUSINESS PARK AND LOOKING COUNTY LITERALLY CONSISTED OF THESE SIX OR SEVEN BUILDINGS RIGHT HERE WITH BEEN SMITH'S MILL LOOP ROAD. AND SO THIS WAS THE FIRST TIME A ROAD EXTENSION OR I SHOULD REALLY SAY A CONNECTION TO A TOWNSHIP ROAD OCCURRED. AND SO BASED ON RESIDENTS FEEDBACK, UM, THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UM , PUT THAT CONDITION ON THIS JUST SECTION OF HARRISON ROAD,

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OBVIOUSLY, THERE'S INTEL OVER HERE AND INNOVATION. CAMPUS WAY HAS BEEN EXTENDED ALL THE WAY TO MINK STREET HERE, SO CERTAINLY, UM, THIS STREET, HARRISON ROAD HAS ALWAYS BEEN INTENDED TO ALLOW FOR A TRUCK TRAFFIC. CERTAINLY IT'S STILL ALLOWED FOR VEHICULAR TRAFFIC FOR YOU KNOW, EMPLOYEES OR RESIDENTS. BUT WHAT HAS HAPPENED RECENTLY IS THAT THIS REMAINING SECTION RIGHT HERE HAS BEEN CURRENTLY PURCHASED BY A PRIVATE DEVELOPER . AND SO THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY IN CONJUNCTION WITH THIS LANDOWNER HAS ENTERED INTO ANNEXATION AGREEMENTS WITH THE TOWNSHIP FOR BOTH ROADWAY MAINTENANCE. AND FOR THE ANNEXATION OF THE PROPERTY AS WELL. AND SO WE'RE HERE TONIGHT AND ANTICIPATION OF A FUTURE ANNEXATION, OR I WOULD SAY A SOON TO BE FUTURE ANNEXATION REQUEST FROM THIS PROPERTY OWNER SHOWN IN ORANGE HERE AND ALSO A REZONING. SO THIS IS CURRENTLY IN THE TOWNSHIP TODAY, BUT IT'S ALL PRIVATELY OWNED AND THIS IS THE LAST REMAINING. RESIDENTIAL PIECE. UM THAT'S WITHIN THIS SECTION OF HARRISON ROAD. SO THIS IS THE ZONING MAP. AND SO THIS IS SHOWING THAT ALL OF THIS , UM WE ANTICIPATE WILL SOON BE ANNEXED AND THEN REZONED AS PART OF THE BUSINESS PARK STEVENS THAT PRIVATELY OWNED BY ONE OWNER. IT IS. IT'S A TOTAL OF 84 ACRES. STEVE IS IT FAIR TO SAY THAT THE CONCERNS THAT THE PRIVATE RESIDENTS HAD RAISED THAT KIND OF PROMPTED THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO PUT THAT NO LEFT TURN SO THE TRUCKS WOULDN'T GO UP THERE THAT THAT INTEREST IS REALLY YEAH ANYMORE . WE KNOW BASED ON, YOU KNOW, COMMENT CARDS AND TALKING TO THESE RESIDENTS. ALL OF THOSE RESIDENTS LIVED ALONG THIS SECTION OF HARRISON ROAD. AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE KEPT IT IN PLACE UNTIL TODAY. UM OR WE HAVEN'T REQUESTED THAT WE REMOVE FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL UNTIL TODAY BECAUSE THIS LAST BLOCK OF RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES THAT COULD BE AFFECTED BY TRUCKS AND HARRISON ROAD ARE HAVE BEEN BOUGHT OUT BY A PRIVATE DEVELOPER AND HIS PENDING FUTURE REDEVELOPMENT. OR THE OR FOLKS STILL LIVING IN THOSE PROPERTIES CURRENTLY OR THEY ALL MOVED OUT. UH I'M NOT SURE. BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE OBJECTION CAME FROM WAS THE ONES LIVING THERE, SO THEY'RE STILL THERE THAN THAT. CONCERNS STILL EXIST, DOESN'T IT? SO IF THEY ARE STILL THERE, I KNOW THE PROPERTY HAS CHANGED HANDS. BUT I WOULD SAY THAT WHAT WE'VE SEEN IN OTHER PROPERTIES IS THAT ONCE DEVELOPMENT OF REZONING OCCURS THAT THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS, UM THEY HAVE A CERTAIN TIME LIMITS OR THEY HAVE CERTAIN NOTIFICATION WHEN THEY HAVE TO MOVE OUT OF THE HOUSE ON THIS PART OF THAT CELL AND REZONING AGREEMENTS WITH THE NEW PROPERTY OWNER. IS THAT I WE COULD ALSO MAKE IT CONTENTION THAT, UM, THAT THE TRUCK AH! PROHIBITION REMAIN IN PLACE UNTIL THE PROPERTY YOU KNOW, AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE IF THAT MAKES THE PLANNING COMMISSION UM MORE COMFORTABLE, BUT UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IF NOT ALL OF THEM, THE MAJORITY OF THOSE RESIDENTS ARE CURRENTLY OUT OF THE HOUSE. I WOULD RATHER SEE IT WHERE IS THERE SOME KIND OF CONDITION LIKE THAT LIKE EITHER IT COULD EVEN BE JUST BE THE TIME AND WHEN IT GETS REZONED IT'S OFFICIALLY RESIGNED BECAUSE IT NEVER GETS RESUMED. THEN IT KIND OF BECOMES AN ISSUE FOR US SAID AT THE TIME THIS GETS REZONED AND APPROVED, APPROVED HIS REZONE. IN THAT CONDITION. I WAS OFF. THAT WOULD MAKE ME COMFORTABLE. YEAH I THINK THAT'D BE FUN. I THINK THAT MAKES SENSE TO THAT. PROHIBITION GOES AWAY UPON A REZONING APPLICATION, BECAUSE IF YOU NEVER GETS REASON FOR SOME REASON, RIGHT, IT FALLS THROUGH AND EVERYTHING. XANAX NEVER GETS REZONED AND WE HAVEN'T REALLY RESOLVED THE ISSUE THAT CAUSED THE CONDITION TO BEGIN WITH. TO MAKE SURE I HEARD THAT RIGHT, SO THE IDEA WOULD BE THAT WE WOULD VOTE ON IT TONIGHT, BUT IT WOULDN'T TAKE EFFECT UNTIL A ZONING OUT REZONING APPLICATION FOR THAT.

PARCEL WAS WAS MADE APPROVED. YEAH EITHER MADE OR APPROVED, I THINK THE ONES FINE. THE CURRENT PROPERTY OWNER IS AWARE OF THIS TRUCK PROHIBITION, AND I THINK AS PART OF THEIR DUE DILIGENCE, UM AS, UM A STAFF IS WORKING WITH THAT PROPERTY OWNER TO ADDRESS THIS TRUCK PROHIBITION, BUT CERTAINLY THE USES A COLLECTOR STREET. IT'S IDENTIFIED AS A AS A ROAD FOR TRUCK TRAFFIC. SO IN ORDER TO MAKE IT A TRUE, UM, FULLY ACCESSIBLE STREET, AS IS EVERY

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I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND MOVE FOR ACCEPTANCE OF STAFF REPORTS AND RELATED DOCUMENTS INTO THE RECORD. IS THERE A 2ND 2ND? MR WALLACE. YES MR LARSON? YES MR SCHELL, BRIGGS. YEAH, GETTING MONEY.

ALRIGHT, I'M MOVE. UM. FOR APPROVAL OF APPLICATION. FBL 52,014 WHICH IS, UM. CONDITION OF APPROVAL FOR THE. INNOVATION, CAMPUS WAY FINAL, PLATT UM, BASED ON THE FINDINGS AND STAFF REPORT UM SUBJECT TO THE CONDITION THAT THE CURRENT TRUCK PROHIBITION WILL BE REMOVED.

UPON APPROVAL. BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF A REZONING APPLICATION. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND, IT. ROLL PLEASE, MR. WALLACE MR. LARSON YES, YES. ALL RIGHT. EXCELLENT. UM. BASED ON DISCUSSION WE HAD PRIOR TO THE BREAK. GOING TO MOVE. TO TABLE. THE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE NEW ALBANY SOLAR ENERGY INITIATIVE. BEST PRACTICE VERSUS REPORT. TO THE. MARCH 6 2023. SPECIAL PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OR WHATEVER WHATEVER IT'S CALLED IS THERE A 2ND 2ND DEATH? AND THERE AREN'T ANY STAFF REPORTS OR ANYTHING FOR THIS FOR THE TABLE. SO WE'RE IN THE WRONG, MR. WALLACE YES, MR SCHELL. BRIGGS YES, MR LARSON? YES? THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU FOR COMING . WE'LL SEE. WE'LL SEE YOU IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS AND THEN WE'LL SEE YOU A COUPLE OF WEEKS LATER

[VII. Other Business]

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BUILDS UNDER OVERHEAD TRANSMISSION LINE AND UTILITY LINES AS A BEST PRACTICE AND SO IN ORDER TO ACCOMPLISH THE MOUNDING AND LANDSCAPING, THIS PROVIDES A SECTION AND DETAILS AND WHAT TO DO WITH THE AREA. THAT'S WITHIN THAT EASEMENT AND THEN WHERE TO RELOCATE ALL THAT REQUIRED LANDSCAPING AND MOUNTING. WITH ALONG THOSE CORRIDORS THERE, SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I KNEW THAT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH OUR PARTNERS OUT IN THE BUSINESS PARK AND ALSO WITH THEM CASCADE , THE CITY'S LANDSCAPE DESIGNER ARCHITECTS TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE A TREATMENT AND SOME SORT OF PROPOSAL GETTING MULTIPLE CIRCUMSTANCES AND IN THE BUSINESS PARK AND TO ACHIEVE THAT CONSISTENCY, AND ACTUALLY, THIS IS VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE BUSINESS PARK ALONG SOWED ER ROAD AND YOU ALBANY ROADIES. SO IN OUR RESEARCH INFORMATION DISTRICT, THIS IS WE ACTUALLY KIND OF HEARKEN BACK TO HOW IT ALL BEGAN , WHERE IT WAS JUST LARGE FIELDS OF PRAIRIE GRASS. OR IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN HOW THIS LOOKS, THERE'S ACTUALLY SOME VERY GOOD EXAMPLES. OUT ON NEW ALBANY ROAD EAST WHERE WE HAVE A FEW DATA CENTERS OUT THERE RIGHT BEFORE YOU HIT THE NEW ALBANY LINKS, AND SO THAT'S THE DESIGN

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THIS IS MORE LIKE A TMD RIGHT THE LARGER AMOUNT WHERE THERE'S MORE INTENSE USES AND MAYBE SELECT AREAS. AND THEN, UH, CLOVER VALLEY ROAD IS REALLY MEANT TO BE MORE OF A UTILITY CORRIDOR. SO IT'S COLLECTOR STREETS. AND SO THIS IS WHAT YOU WOULD SEE A LONG SORT OF THE SECONDARY STREETS. WHERE THERE YOU KNOW WHERE WE'RE. PUTTING OUR WORKING WITH UTILITIES TO PUT ALL THESE OVERHEAD LINES AND THIS ENSURES THAT WE CAN KEEP THAT STREETSCAPE BUT ALSO SERVE OUR SITES WITHIN THE BUSINESS PARK AS WELL. AND SHOWS THE FENCING IN THERE, BUT IT DOESN'T FALL OUT FOR A COLOR. WE'RE ALL ASSUMING, RIGHT. BUT DO YOU NEED TO SPECIFY THAT? SPECIFIED SOMEWHERE. YEAH, I BELIEVE IT IS SPECIFIED IN THE PLAN. AH I THINK IT IS IN THERE. I BELIEVE ON FIGURE EIGHT. AH! OH, YEAH. FENCE TO BE PAINTED BY SHERWIN WILLIAMS COLOR CONSISTENT WITH FENCING THROUGHOUT THE CITY PRIMARY USED UNTREATED WOOD. FIGURE EIGHT. I DON'T SAY AND SAY I'M SORRY. THAT'S ON PAGE DESCRIPTION 20 YEAR. OKAY? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS GOOD.

DO WE NEED A MOTION OF AND WHAT TYPE YOU COULD FORMALLY ADOPT THIS PLAN. JUST A MOTION TO ADOPT THE FORGET THE NAME OF THE TITLE ALREADY TO ADOPT THE BEACH ROAD NORTH DISTRICT LANDSCAPE DESIGN STANDARDS PLAN. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE TO TALK ABOUT IT? CAN WE GO AHEAD AND MAKE THE MOTION? NOPE. THAT'S ALL I HAVE SOMEBODY LIKE MIKE MOTION. WE NEED TO ACCEPT THE DOCUMENTS ON THIS ONE. NO WELL, DO WE NEED TO? I DON'T THINK SO THAT WE'RE PROVING PROVING IT. OKAY SO I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE THAT APPROVED THE BEACH ROAD NORTH LANDSCAPING PLAN FOR A SECOND. I'LL SECOND IT. RAW. MR SCHELL? YES MR LARSON. MISS BRIGGS? YES. MR WALLACE? YES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANKS, GUYS. GOOD JOB. ALL RIGHT. I THINK WE'VE HIT THE LAST AGENDA ITEM. ANY COMMENTS FROM MEMBERS? DAVID GOOD JOB COMMENTS FROM STAFF. COMMENTS FROM THE ONE PERSON IN THE AUDIENCE. ALRIGHT WE'RE ADJOURNED. THANK YOU

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