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ARE WE READY? OKAY THIS THING MOVED. I'D LIKE TO CALL THE ORDER THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING FOR MONDAY, MARCH SEVEN MARCH THE 6TH 2023 THE ROLE, PLEASE. MR KIRBY PRESENT. MR WALLACE PRESENT. MS BRIGGS HERE. MR LARSON, PRESIDENT, MR SHELL. COUNCIL MEMBER, BRISK PRESIDENT.
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BRINGS US TO ITEM THREE ACTIONS ON THE MINUTES FROM FEBRUARY. 22ND ARE THERE ANY CORRECTIONS TO THE MINUTES? YES SIR. I DIDN'T ACTUALLY HAVE ONE IN MY PACKET. ONE NOTE AND JUST BE HELPFUL. BUT PAGE NUMBERS ON THE YES, OF COURSE. THE NEXT TIME THAT WAY, IF WE DO HAVE TO MAKE A CHANGE WILL BE ABLE TO FIND THAT YES, GREAT LOCATIONAL EASIER. THE ONLY I BELIEVE THE ONLY CHANGE AND I THINK IT WAS CLEAR. FOR I THINK IT WAS IMPLIED FROM THE VOTE. BUT, UM.AT THE END OF THE. FIRST CASE. I THINK YOU THE NOTES. JUST LIKE COMMISSION MEMBER UM BLANK SECONDED THE MOTION TO ACCEPT THE STAFF REPORTS. I THINK IT WAS COMMISSION MEMBER SHELL, SO I THINK I WOULD JUST THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY CHANGE I WOULD HAVE IS JUST TO CLARIFY. IT WAS CLEAR FROM THE FACT THAT HE VOTED SECOND QUESTION. AND THAT I DIDN'T HAVE ANY CHANGES. AND THE OTHERS. MOVED TO PROVE THE MINUTES FROM THE FEBRUARY 22ND 2023 MEETINGS. AS CORRECTED. DO I HEAR A 2ND 2ND? MR DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION. HERE. THE ROLE, PLEASE. MR WALLACE? YES MR LARSON? YES? MR SCHELL? YES MISS BRIGGS? YES, MR KIRBY. I WAS NOT PRESENT AT THE MEETING. I HAVE FOUR VOTES IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS CORRECTED. THANK YOU. ARE THERE
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ANY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS? THE AGENDA TONIGHT? UM. WE WILL GET TO THAT ONCE THE ITEMS COME BEFORE YOU OKAY? ITEM FIVE HEARING OF VISITORS FOR ITEMS THAT ARE NOT ON TONIGHT'S[VI. Cases]
AGENDA. DO WE HAVE ANY SUCH VISITORS? HEARING NONE. WE'RE GOING TO WORK CASES ARE FIRST CASES. ZONING CHANGE 17 TO 2023. CAN WE HEAR FROM STAFF? OKAY THANK YOU. CHAIR MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION. THE FIRST TWO ITEMS ON THE AGENDA ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO, UM, POTENTIALLY BE TABLED THIS EVENING AT THE REQUEST OF THE APPLICANT AND THEY ARE ALSO THE APPLICANT OF THE THIRD ITEM ON YOUR AGENDA. AND THAT ITEM WILL POTENTIALLY BE WITHDRAWN TONIGHT, SO I AM NOT GOING TO GIVE FORMAL PRESENTATIONS ON THE FIRST THREE ITEMS. AND I'M GOING TO LET THE APPLICANT GIVE YOU SOME BACKGROUND AND WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THOSE THREE ITEMS AND, UM, KIND OF LEAD THAT DISCUSSION AND, UM, DO THAT, AS WE MOVE FORWARD. YES. UH SO BEFORE YOU TONIGHT ARE THREE APPLICATIONS. THESE ARE ALL RELATED TO ONE OF MY FAVORITE TOPICS. SABCO BATCH PLANT. GOOD ONE. NO LONG HISTORY AND FOR THE RECORD YOUR TIME. RUBY FROM NEW ALBANY COMPANY. I'M SORRY, TOM RUBY WOULD NORTH. SO CURRENTLY THE SABCO BATCH PLANT IS LOCATED IN ITS SECOND SITE, WHICH IS THE NORTH SIDE OF CANTON ROAD, JUST EAST OF VITRO. YOU MIGHT REMEMBER THIS COMMISSION REVIEWED THAT I BELIEVE IT WAS A CONDITIONAL USE. WHEN IT CAME BEFORE YOU. I THINK THAT WAS THE APPLICATION. BUT THERE WERE LOTS OF ISSUES RELATED TO TRAFFIC AND HOURS OF OPERATION NOISE AND LANDSCAPING AND THE LIKE. AS THE BUSINESS CAMPUS CONTINUES TO GROW AND EXPAND THE NEED FOR THE BATCH PLANT CONTINUES TO BE HERE BEFORE YOU WRITE TONIGHT ARE TWO APPLICATIONS FOR TWO SITES. ONE IS THE TRIANGULAR PIECE OF GROUND. OFF OF DRUG STREET. THE OTHER APPLICATION, UM IS DOWN AT THE INTERSECTION OF EACH AND MORE ROAD. THERE WE GO. UM AS WE CONTINUE TO WORK NOT ONLY WITH[00:05:02]
SAP CO BUT WITH THE CITY STAFF. WE HAVE CONCLUDED THAT THE BEST OPTION FORWARD WILL BE TO REMOVE. TAKE THIS ONE OFF THE TABLE. REQUEST. WITHDRAW THAT APPLICATION. BACK TO THE OTHER ONE. IN FACT, YOU HAVE A LASER POINTER. YES, WE ARE RICH IN THESE TODAY. DO ACCOMMODATE ALL OF THOSE NEEDS ON THIS ON THIS TRIANGULAR. AGAIN LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY A YEAR AND A HALF AGO OR SO WE CAME IN AND DID THE REZONING AT THAT TIME. A LOT OF THE BOAT FROM THE BERMUDA SUBDIVISION CAME OUT. THERE ARE STIPULATIONS IN THE ZONING TEXT. THAT THAT. LIMIT MANUFACTURING DISTRIBUTION BUILDING HEIGHT. PAVEMENTS SETBACK, PAVEMENT SETBACKS, ALL KINDS OF THINGS.SINCE THAT TIME WE HAVE ACQUIRED 12345 PROPERTIES. THOSE CLOSEST TO THIS. WE NOW RENT THOSE HOMES , BUT THEY ARE UNDER OUR OWNERSHIP. WE CONTINUE TO, UM AGGRESSIVE. PROBABLY NOT THE RIGHT WORD, BUT, UH, WE DO GO IN AND PURCHASE PROPERTIES WITHIN THAT SUBDIVISION WHEN AND OR IF THERE IS A HOME OWNER OF IT IS INTERESTED IN MOVING AND THEY DON'T HAVE REALISTIC EXPECTATIONS OF VALUES BUT WERE ABLE TO COME TO AN AGREEMENT. WE NOW ON EITHER SEVEN OR EIGHT HOMES AND IN THAT SELF UM A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND THAT I THINK IS HELPFUL. WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS TO TABLE ABOUT THIS REZONING AND CONDITIONAL USE IN AN EFFORT TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH CITY STAFF TO AMEND THE APPLICATIONS IN COME BACK TO YOU NEXT MONTH. TAKING OFF THE TABLE , THE BEACH AND MORSE ROADSIDE. COMBINING EVERYTHING SO WILL HAPPEN HERE ON THIS SITE. ONE OTHER PIECE OF INFORMATION YOU GUYS SHOULD ALL BE AWARE OF, UM I FORGET THE HORIZON HORIZON.
WILL BE EXTENDED. TO THE EAST TO CONNECT INTO HARRISON ROAD. THAT'S THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY PROJECT. IT WILL BISECT THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF THIS SITE. IN ALL LIKELIHOOD, I'M SPEAKING OUT OF TURN HERE. BUT IN ALL LIKELIHOOD, SABCO WILL BE THE COMPANY THAT BUILDS THAT ROAD.
THERE HASN'T BEEN A DECISION MADE THAT SOMETHING THAT'S IN THE WORKS. THERE ARE LOGICAL.
USER OF THIS AND WOULD BE BUILDING IT. SO A LOT TO UNPACK YOUR A LOT OF ISSUES RELATED TO THE HOURS OF NOISE. TRUCK WE HAVE WASHERS AND IN THE LIGHT, SO I'D LIKE TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH STAFF TO COME BACK WITH YOU WITH AN AMENDMENT. BUT THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND OF WHY I'M DOING WHAT I'M DOING. AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. YOU'VE GOT MY NUMBER ONE QUESTION ALREADY. WHAT'S THAT ABOUT CONTROL OVER BERMUDA. AND HOW MUCH? YEAH YOU KNOW, NEIL, UM I HESITATED, EVEN MENTIONING THAT IT'S A FACTOR. IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THOSE COMMITMENTS THAT WE MADE TO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD OR KNOWLEDGE AND VOID WE WILL COME BACK TO YOU WITH SOMETHING THAT MAINTAINS A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF RESPECT THAT AT LEAST WE CITY STAFF AND WHAT DO YOU THINK IS APPROPRIATE THERE AND WILL REVIEW IT AND DISCUSS IT WITH THIS COMMISSION. DECIDE WHAT TO DO. YEAH BECAUSE IT MADE THE STAFF REPORT AND MY QUESTION WAS ALL OF THEM. YEAH ALL THE BORDERING ONES. YEAH WELL FOR A WHOLE BUNCH OF REASONS IF YOU TELLING YOU THAT THE HEADWATERS BLACK RIGHT, REMEMBER, THE GROUNDWATER WAS REALLY HIGH THROUGH THEIR LOTS OF CONCERN ABOUT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT THROUGH THERE. I THINK ALL OF THAT NEEDS TO BE FOLDED INTO SOMETHING THAT MAKES SOME SENSE.
AGAIN TO REMIND THIS COMMISSION THIS IS A THERE IS A TIME SLOT FOR THIS THAT THIS ISN'T A UM IF THIS WERE TO BE APPROVED, ULTIMATELY, THE REZONING GOING TO COUNSEL, UH, IT'S NOT IN PERPETUITY. THERE'S A TIMEFRAME , MAYBE TWO YEARS IT MAY BE ATTACHED TO THE TIMEFRAME FOR CONSTRUCTION OF THAT EAST WEST ROAD THAT CONNECTS FOR RISE ON HARRISON. SO MORE DETAILS THAT I THINK TOLD THEM BEHIND. SURE. QUESTIONS FROM ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC. GO AHEAD. TOM WAS SOMETHING IN THE STAFF REPORT TO TALK ABOUT. THE FACT THAT. THE CONCRETE OPERATIONS. WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ANY CLOSER THAN THE 695 FT IF I REMEMBER THE NUMBER CORRECTLY, COMBINATION, YEAH.
THE FUNCTION. YES. BACK IN THE RIGHT. UH I THINK WITH THIS NEW APPLICATION, IT WILL PROBABLY BE
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CLOSER THAN THAT I WAS GETTING AT BECAUSE WHAT WE'RE DOING IS COMBINING THOSE TWO FACILITIES.I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT DIMENSION IS. CITY STAFF HAS SAID THEY WANT ME TO KEEP IT WITHIN 500 FT. IS THAT RIGHT? SO TM. THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT. SO THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES EITHER SOUND LG, WHICH IS MUCH LESS THAN THAT SIX OR 95 RIBBON 500, THE LARGEST SETBACKS WE HAVE BY CODE IS THE TECHNOLOGY MANUFACTURING DISTRICT, AND THAT PROVIDES LIKE AT MOST 500 FT.
SETBACK SO I THOUGHT IS THAT YOU KNOW, IN ORDER TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE SURROUNDINGS OWNING 500 FT WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH THE TMD CERTAINLY HAS A LOT, YOU KNOW PART OF THAT LARGE SET.
BACK IS WEIGHING MORE INTENSE USES AS WELL. AND THAT'S WHY WE FEEL THAT WE CAN FIND THIS RIGHT BALANCE OF USES BUT ALSO AN APPROPRIATE SETBACK AND BARRIERS AS FAR AS LIKE LANDSCAPING AND OTHER THINGS GO TO BE CLEAR. I'M NOT THERE YET. I'M TRYING. I NEED TO DO THE LAYOUT TO BETTER UNDERSTAND WHAT CAN FIT AND HOW THIS WILL WORK IN ALSO HOW THIS WILL BE COORDINATED WITH THE ROAD CONSTRUCTION PROJECT. EXCUSE ME. AND THAT SETBACK WAS BASED ON BUILDING HYPE TO RISING 45 P VERSUS 65. IS THAT RIGHT? SO WITHIN THIS ZONE, IT'S A MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF 45 FT.
TYPICALLY THE NEWER L G S, I THINK WHICH WE MENTIONED. THE LAST ONE IS WE'RE TYPICALLY LIKE 80 TO 85 FT. WE CERTAINLY HAVE SOME 65 FT. THE TMD WITH THAT 500 FT SETBACK HAS NO BUILDING HEIGHT RESTRICTIONS. SO MAYBE WORTH, UM. TAKING A DRIVE BY THE SOUTH COAST BATCH PLAN. FOR OUR NEXT MEETING TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT'S OUT THERE TODAY. SO THEY'RE NOT. IT'S NOT A PERMANENT BUILDING. IT'S NOT A PERMANENT STRUCTURE THAT ACTUALLY YOU CAN ACTUALLY MOVE THESE THINGS. THERE ARE INFORMANTS. BUT TO GET A SENSE OF THE SCALE AND SIZE OF THEM AS WELL AS THE STOCKPILE, A MATERIAL THAT'S ADJACENT TO IT. UM IT MAY BE HELPFUL, SO I JUST THROW THAT OUT THERE AS AN IDEA. IN MY OPINION, BUILDING HEIGHT ISN'T AS MUCH THE ISSUE AS.
HOURS OF OPERATION, CLEANLINESS OF MATERIALS AND REAL WASHINGTON STATIONS. THERE ARE ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES WITH PRESERVATION EASEMENTS ON THIS PROPERTY AND OTHER THINGS THAT WE NEED TO BE MINDFUL OF. AH! SO . YEAH I THINK WHEN THE MAJOR CONCERNS BASED ON THE LAST MEETING IS ENVIRONMENTAL, YEAH, THAT'S GONNA COME UP RIGHT AND ESPECIALLY NOTIFICATION. TWO ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOOD. KEEP IN MIND. SO TOM, THE CURRENT PLAN. YOU WERE GOING TO SPLIT IT UP NOW, IF YOU PUT IT ON THAT ONE THAT ONE AREA WILL IT BE THE SIMILAR SIZES THE PLANT NOW IT WILL BE SIMILAR IN SIZE TO THE PLANT NOW. UM AGAIN, ONE OBJECTIVE WORKING OUT THERE.
THERE IS A LARGE RETENTION BASIN. LOCATED RIGHT HERE. GROWING HAWAII. THAT IS ABOUT 500 FT DIMENSION THAT STEPHEN MENTIONED EARLIER. THAT'S WHAT I'M THAT'S WHAT I'M AIMING FOR THEM SUPERIMPOSED THE ROAD ALIGNMENT, THE ROAD ALIGNMENTS BEEN ESTABLISHED AND SET.
SUPERIMPOSE THAT ON TOP OF THIS TO START MAKING SURE THIS ADDS UP TO SOMETHING THAT THAT IS WORKABLE. BY THE WAY, YOUR NEW PROPERTIES TO JUST TO THE NORTH OF IRAQ. GREAT SPOT FOR GROWING TREES, GREAT SPOT GROWING TREES, TREES. OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS . TIME TO DO ANYTHING FURTHER.
YOU WANT TO ADD SO I'M SORRY SO I WOULD REQUEST TABLING OF ZC 17 2023 TABLING OF CONDITIONAL USE 18 2023 WITHDRAWING CONDITIONS 1920 23 THE ANSWER AND STAFF. NOTHING DO I HEAR A MOTION REGARDING A SECOND MOVED EXCEPT WE HAVE TWO FOR TABLE DO WE HAVE TO PUT THE DOCUMENTS IN? NO, I DON'T THINK SO. I MOVE THAT WE TABLE ZONING CHANGE 17 2023 TO OUR NEXT OR HANG ON. UH ONE MONTH OR TWO WEEKS, PEOPLE APRIL 3RD APRIL. 3RD DO WE HAVE A MEETING ON APRIL 3RD, OR WE JUST MAKE IT OUR REGULARLY SCHEDULED WHATEVER. SO THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS ITS REGULAR MEETING THE THIRD MONDAY. THERE'S ALSO WHAT WE CALL THE INFORMAL MEETING AN ALLEGED CASE THE PLANNING COMMISSION CAN TAKE FORMAL ACTION ITEMS. UM, SO THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING THAT
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HELD IN THAT FIRST MONDAY SO IT WOULD BE TABLED WITHIN 30 DAYS OF THIS MEETING IS MAKING US COME TO ANOTHER MEETING. YEAH I GOT THE VILLAGERS BUSINESS ACCOUNT TIME, OKAY? UM. SO I WAS IN MIDDLE OF MOVING AND I WAS GETTING THE DETAILS, RIGHT? SO I MOVED TO TABLE THIS TO OUR APRIL THREE MEETING SLOT. DO I HEAR A SECOND? SECOND. YES. ANY DISCUSSION OF THE MOTION. FOR THE ROLE. MR KIRBY? YES. MR SCHELL? YES. MR LARSON? YES. MS BRIGGS? YES. MR WALLACE. YES I HAVE FIVE VOTES IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION. THANK YOU. BECAUSE THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON CONDITIONAL USE 18. I MOVE THAT WE TABLE CONDITIONAL USE 18. 22 23 TO THE APRIL THREE TIMES A LOT. WE'LL HEAR A 2ND 2ND. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION. CAN I HEAR THE ROLE MR KIRBY? YES. MS BRIGGS? YES. MR WALLACE. YES. MR LARSON? YES MR SCHELL? YES FIVE VOTES IN FAVOR OF EMOTION. THANK YOU. UM CONDITIONALLY USED 19 HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN. IT NEEDS NO FURTHER ACTION. OKAY? THANK YOU FOR THE UPDATE. BRINGS US TO PRELIMINARY AND FINAL PLAN 20 CAN WE HEAR FROM STAFF? YEAH, LOT SHORTER. THANK YOU. CHAIR MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION. THIS APPLICATION IS FOR THE PRELIMINARY AND FINAL PLATT FOR THE NEW SUBDIVISION, ALDEN WOODS. THE SITE IS LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF CENTRAL COLLEGE ROAD EAST OF NEW ALBANY , CONDIT ROAD WEST OF WENTWORTH CROSSING SUBDIVISION AND SOUTH OF THE COURTYARDS AT NEW ALBANY SUBDIVISION. CITY COUNCIL REVIEWED AND APPROVED THE REZONING APPLICATION FOR THIS SUBDIVISION DURING THEIR MEETING ON OCTOBER 18TH 2022. THE PROPOSED SUBDIVISION IS 8.839 ACRES, CONSISTING OF NINE SINGLE FAMILY LOTS AND THE PLAYGROUND PROPOSAL ON THE SCREEN WAS ACTUALLY JUST HEARD THIS EVENING BY OUR PARKS AND TRAILS ADVISORY BOARD, AND THEY DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE PLAYGROUND PLANNED WITH SOME CONDITIONS. AND MOST OF THE CONDITIONS WERE, UM SOME REVISIONS TO THE DESIGN THAT WOULD BE TO THE SUBJECT OF STAFF APPROVAL. THE PROPOSED LAYOUT MATCHES THE ZONING EXHIBIT THAT THIS COMMISSION STALL AT THE TIME OF THE REZONING APPLICATION. AND IT MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE ZONING TEXT. FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT THAT TOTAL REQUIRED PARKLAND AND OPEN SPACE. IS 2.26 ACRES. THE APPLICANT IS EXCEEDING THAT BY PROVIDING THREE RESERVE AREAS THAT WILL CONSIST OF EITHER OPEN SPACE OR PARKLAND. FOR A TOTAL OF 2.39 ACRES. THE RESERVE AREAS ARE SHOWN AS A B AND C ON THE FLAT. AND ACCORDING TO THE TEXT, THE RESERVES WILL BE THE OWNED BY THE CITY AND MAINTAINED BY THE OAS. AND RESERVE C IS THE, UM AREA FOR ESSENTIALLY THE PARK LEE AND WHERE THE PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT WILL BE. THE PLATTE CREATES ONE NEW, PUBLICLY DEDICATED STREET. THE NEW STREET MEETS REQUIREMENTS AS DESCRIBED, AND THERE'S ONLY IN TEXT. AND FOR THE CITY'S SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS, ALL NEW STREETS SHALL BE NAMED AND SHALL BE SUBJECT TO THE APPROVAL OF PLANNING COMMISSION. THE APPLICANTS. PROPOSED NAME FOR THE NEW STREET IS WOULD BE DRIVE. THE TEXT STATES THAT A 30 FT BUFFER ZONE ON THE PERIMETER OF THIS SUBDIVISION, UM, THE BOUNDARIES NOT ADJACENT TO CENTRAL COLLEGE, WILL, UM BE INCLUDED, HOWEVER, THE BUFFER ZONE IS NOT INDICATED ON THE[00:20:01]
PLATTE BY A NOTE. AND STUFF WOULD RECOMMEND A CONDITION OF APPROVAL THAT A NOTE BE ADDED TO THE PLATTE TO REFLECT THE LANGUAGE FROM THE ESTONIAN TEXTS REGARDING THE 30 FT BUFFERS DOWN AT THE TIME OF THE REZONING. THERE WERE TWO TREES IDENTIFIED TO BE SAVED, AND THEY ARE NOTED ON THE PLATTE IN ORDER TO MEET THIS REGULATION OF THAT APPROVAL. AND. IN SUMMARY, THE FINAL PLOT MEETS ALL PARKLAND AND OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS. IT MEETS ALL RIGHT OF WAY DEDICATION REQUIREMENTS, INCLUDING THE FUTURE CONNECTION TO THE WEST. IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE ZONING EXHIBIT PRESENTED TO YOU AT THE TIME OF REZONING, AND IT MEETS ALL CITY CODE REQUIREMENTS. SHOULD THE COMMISSION APPROVED THE APPLICATION STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND THE CONDITIONS LISTED IN THE STAFF REPORT. AND WE ARE AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.THANK YOU, ENGINEERING. YES SO STAFF RECOMMENDS HER CONDITION OF APPROVAL THAT THESE COMMENTS BE ADDRESSED SUBJECT TO STOP APPROVAL. REFERRED TO EXHIBIT A REVISED SHEEP, ONE OF THE REFERENCE PLATFORM MATCH ALL SIGNATURE AND NOTE BLOCKS, INCLUDING THE DRAIN ENGAGEMENT, NO BLOCK. AS SHOWN ON SHEET ONE OF EXHIBIT A NUMBER TO SHOW ALL THE RESERVE A LINE WITHIN A DRAINAGE EASEMENT. NUMBER THREE REFER TO SHEET TWO OF EXHIBIT A CONSISTENT WITH THE PREVIOUS PLANTED SUBDIVISION LOCATED ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE REFERENCE SUBDIVISION. PROVIDE A MINIMUM RIGHT AWAY DEDICATION OF 40 FT AS MEASURED, MEASURED FROM THE ROAD CENTERLINE ALONG THE REFERENCE SUBDIVISIONS FRONTAGE. BEFORE REFERRED TO EXHIBIT B. ADD BUFFER ZONE NOTE BLOCK ANOTHER WOMAN WALKS TO THE REFERENCE PLOT. NUMBER FIVE. THEY WILL INSTRUMENT INSTRUMENT NUMBER FOR THE EXISTING SANITARY SEWER EASEMENT SHOWN ON THE PLOT. NUMBER SIX. REMOVE THE NOTE AS IT NOW EXISTS BENEATH THE FUTURE STREET LABEL. NUMBER SEVEN CHANGED THE LEVEL FROM STRANGER LEVEL OF THE 20 FT STORM EASEMENT. LOCATED ON LOT 123 AND FOUR SHOWN ON THE REFERENCE TO 20 FT DRAINAGE EASEMENT. NUMBER EIGHT NOTE THE DRAINAGE EASEMENT SHOWN ON THE REFERENCE PLATT WITHIN RESERVE B DOESN'T MATCH SHEET C. 200. PROVIDE THE CONCERN PROVIDED WITH THE CONSTRUCTION PLANS. PLEASE ADVISE. NUMBER NINE IN ACCORDANCE WITH CODE SECTIONS.
UM 11 87.6 SECTIONS C ONE AND C TWO. RECOMMEND THAT THE APPLICANT PROVIDE EVIDENCE THAT THE OHIO EPA AND A C O. E PERMITS ARE NOT REQUIRED. TO OUR CONSTRUCTION. AND FINALLY NUMBER 10 RECOMMEND THAT THE APPLICANT PUT CAN'T HAVE THE AREA TO BE RE PLOTTED REVIEWED BY THE FRANKLIN COUNTY ENGINEERS OFFICE SUMMARY OF THE COUNTY ENGINEER REVIEW COMMENTS AND THE APPLICANTS, COMMENT. RESPONSES PROVIDE PROVIDE FOR OUR RECORDS. THAT WAS A LOT. CAN WE HEAR FROM THE APPLE? CAN WE HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT IF YOU'VE GOT ANYTHING TO ADD THANK YOU. MY NAME IS ANDREW MALLET, SOME WITH MALLETS ARCHITECTS AND AS WELL AS CENTRAL CALLED DEVELOPMENT LLC, WHO'S THE SIGNATORY ON THE PROPOSED PLAQUE? UM REGARDING THE COMMENTS THAT WERE JUST OUTLINED. OUR ENGINEERS HAVE BEEN THROUGH ONE ROUND OF COMMENTS RESUBMITTED. IF IT HASN'T ALREADY. I THINK THEY'RE ABOUT TO HIT. UH THEY HAVEN'T SO I BELIEVE THOSE ITEMS THAT WERE JUST LISTED HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED ANY CONFLICTS? NO. SO I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE. ANY CONFLICTS WITH THE CONDITION OF APPROVAL AS LISTED IN THE STAFF REPORT. NO, THANK YOU. FROM. I HAD A COUPLE OF QUICK QUESTIONS JUST TO RE FAMILIARIZE EVERYBODY. THIS IS ROUGHLY ARE FOUR AS I RECALL. UM SIDEWALKS I BELIEVE ARE REQUIRED. SO THERE'S SIDEWALKS ALONG ALL THE FRONTS IS WHERE THERE'S HOMES ALONG THE OUTSIDE. YEAH. COOL THAT WAS MY JUST MAKING SURE IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME SINCE WE'VE HAD A STRAIGHT ZONING AND, UM THE APPLICANT DRIVERS WILL BE BLACKTOP. CORRECT OKAY, UM, AND THIS IS SORT OF INDICATED OF WHAT WE WOULD SEE. SORRY OKAY. UM THAT'S CORRECT. CAN WE HAVE THE. GOOD TRY AT THE LOVELY GREEN LASER POINTER HERE, SO THESE GUYS DON'T SHOW A SIDEWALK. SO I PRESUME THE DRIVEWAY ITSELF PROVIDES THE PEDESTRIAN ACCESS. AH THAT'S CORRECT, AS IT'S CURRENTLY DESIGNED RIGHT NOW, WE'RE WE'RE PROPOSING A MOTOR COURT ENTRY, WHICH DOES MEAN THAT THEY WOULD ESSENTIALLY WALK UP THE DRIVE TO GET IN THERE. I'M NOT OPPOSED TO, YOU KNOW, INSTALLING A, UM
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SIDEWALK FOR THOSE HOMES, EXCEPT THAT IT WOULD. THE FRONT DOOR IS LOCATED HERE AND HERE, AS CURRENTLY PROPOSED. SO, UM HOW WE WOULD DO THAT WOULD BE PROBABLY ADJACENT TO THE DRIVEWAY. IF AT ALL. THAT'S WHERE I WAS GOING WITH THIS AND WANTED STAFFS. INPUT ON IF A CERTAIN NUMBER OF FEET OF WHAT WOULD NORMALLY BE THE DRIVEWAY WITH CONCRETE. TO RESEMBLE THE SIDEWALK, EVEN THOUGH THEY WOULD BE USED FOR VEHICLE TRAFFIC, MAYBE NEXT FOR VEHICLE AND PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC, BUT TO LEAD TOWARDS THE FRONT DOOR. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT STAFF WOULD LIKE WE WOULD HAVE THE CLEAR THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN TUESDAY'S PEOPLE WALK HERE THIS WAY TO THE FRONT DOOR AS OPPOSED TO. WHERE'S THE FRONT DOOR IS EITHER DRIVEWAY BUT I DON'T SEE THE FRONT DOOR THAT IF THERE'S A BRIGHT, SHINY SIDEWALK LIKE ALL THE OTHER TREAT. ALL THE OTHER ONES HAVE IT WOULD BE VERY CLEAR VISUAL INDICATOR. AND. SO THE ASPHALT DRIVEWAYS AS A CODE REQUIREMENTS, SO TO DEVIATE THAT , I THINK WOULD REQUIRE A VARIANCE TO ARE THE WIDTH OF THE DRIVEWAY REQUIRED. UNDER CODE, SO THERE IS A WIDTH MAXIMUM OF 12 FT AT THE RIGHT OF WAY LINE FOR A DRIVEWAY WITH, BUT THERE'S NOT A MINIMUM FOR THE SIZE OF THE DRAFT FOR THE WIDTH OF THE DRIVEWAY. NO SO IF THEY TOOK A FEW FEET OUT OF THE WIT OF THEIR BLACKTOP DRIVEWAY AND PUT CONCRETE INSTEAD AND SAID, THIS IS A SIDEWALK, IT WOULD BE A SIDEWALK THAT WAS NEXT TO THE BLACK DROP DRIVEWAY IN THE BLACK DIRECT DRIVEWAY WOULD MEET THE CODE. NEVER MIND THE FACT THAT COULD VERY EASILY DRIVE YOUR VEHICLE ON THE CONCRETE PART AS THE HEIGHTS MATCHED. AND SO THE HOMEOWNER WOULD SEE NO LOSS. WE WOULD HAVE NO ADDITIONAL AMOUNT OF GREEN SPACE TAKEN UP. TO DO THIS, AND WE WOULD HAVE WHAT WOULD APPEAR TO BE A SIDEWALK, LEADING PEOPLE AT LEAST REALLY CLOSE TO THE FRONT DOOR. JUST MAKING SURE THAT WE COULD DO THAT. IF I MAY. I MIGHT ADD. I APPRECIATE THE COMMENT ABOUT NOT TAKING UNNECESSARY GREEN SPACE. WE WOULD NOT BE OPPOSED ME THE SECOND TIME I'VE DONE THAT, UM, WE WOULD NOT BE OPPOSED TO PUTTING A SIDEWALK RUNNING PARALLEL TO THE DRIVE, IF NOT OFFSET BY PERHAPS THREE FT. THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR, YOU KNOW, A LANDSCAPE HEDGE. UH I THINK KEEPING THEM SEPARATE MIGHT EVEN THOUGH UM, THEY PROBABLY FOLLOW THE SAME PATH. I THINK IT'S REASONABLE THAT WE WOULD WANT TO INCLUDE SIDEWALKS TO EACH OF THE HOMES. I THINK IT'S A PRACTICAL ISSUE. UM WE'RE STILL FINESSING THE EXACT DESIGN OF THOSE TWO LOTS BY THE WAY, BUT THEY'RE GENERALLY CITING THE WAY THEY'RE SHOWN HERE ON THE PLATTE. UM SO I'M NOT OPPOSED TO A TO A SIDEWALK ON THESE PROPERTIES. I'M NOT SURE THAT I WANT TO MAKE IT A CONDITION OF APPROVAL. BUT IT WAS A STRONG SUGGESTION. LET ME SHOP THAT AROUND AND SEE WHAT THE REST OF COMMISSION THINKS. I WOULD SAY THAT'S PREFERABLE TO HAVE A SIDEWALK BECAUSE IT DOES LEAD YOU THAT DIRECTION. THERE ARE OTHER DEVELOPMENTS AND HOUSES IN WITHIN THE AVENUE DRIVEWAY HAVE DRIVEWAY HAZARD ACCESS. THEY'RE USUALLY NOT BACK THAT FAR, PROBABLY TWO MEN WROTE, BUT I COULD SEE THE OTHER WAY. SEPARATES US WANT, I THINK IN YOUR POINT IS THAT SOME OF THE HOMES HAVE SIDEWALKS AND LOOKS LIKE TO DO NOT. OR MAYBE THREE. I CAN'T TELL HIM SO FOR CONTINUITY INSIDE THE DEVELOPMENT OF MAGNETIC STEPS TO HAVE BUT I THINK. MOST PEOPLE CAN PROBABLY FIND A WAY TO THE FRONT DOOR ABOUT IT. IT'S PROBABLY MORE AESTHETIC. WHERE ARE THE SIDEWALKS ON 78 AND NINE SO 789 ARE MORE TRADITIONAL MOTOR COURT LIKE WAS DISCUSSED IN SOME OF THE OTHER COMMUNITY, UH, THAT EXIST TODAY WHERE YOU CAN SEE THE FRONT DOOR COMFORTABLY FROM THE STREET. SO YOU WOULD JUST APPROACH FROM THE DRIVE, BUT BUT, UM LOT FOR IN PARTICULAR. WE HAVE AN EASEMENT . YOU CAN JUST BARELY SEE IT. WE HAVE AN EASEMENT THAT RUNS RIGHT HERE FOR SENATORS WHO ARE SO IT DOES PUSH THIS PARTICULAR HOME BACK A LITTLE BIT FURTHER. AND AGAIN. I DON'T HAVE ANY. I THINK IT'S GOOD DESIGN PRACTICE TO JUST PROMOTE THAT, UM, WAY FINDING SO NO OBJECTION ON MY PART. WE DID NOT PUT THEM ON, UH 789 SIMPLY BECAUSE IT'S SO PROMINENT. THE ENTRY TO THE HOME WOULD BE SO PROMINENT RIGHT HERE HERE. AND HERE RESPECTIVELY. BUT YOU HAVE SIX GREAT SIDEWALKS. ENCOURAGEMENT YEAH. HERE WE GO. OTHER QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS FROM COMMISSION MEMBERS. OKAY. QUESTION FOR STAFF. SO THE SETBACK WITH 30 FT ALONG THE PERIMETER. HOW DID WE DETERMINE 30 FT OF THIS DRAGON? THAT IS THE REAR YARD SETBACK FOR THE R[00:30:10]
FOUR DISTRICT AND SO 30 FT IS THEIR REAR YARD SETBACK AND THE 30 FT BUFFER ZONE. SO THE BUFFER ZONE, UM, HAS REQUIREMENTS. FOR UM WHAT CAN AND CANNOT BE IN THERE AND THEN THE 30 FT.SETBACK FOR THE HOUSE AS WELL. I CAN MAKE THE REASON I ASKED. MY CONCERN IS THE HOUSES A FAIRLY CLOSE THE BACK OF THE HOUSE IS 2000 AND FOR ZONE, BUT I SEE POTENTIAL OF US GETTING A BUNCH OF VARIANCE REQUEST TO PUT IN PLACE THAT SAME PATIOS AND SOMETHING ENOUGH? I BELIEVE, I GUESS FOR THE BUFFER AREA THAT TEXT WILL NOT ALLOW THERE'S ITEMS IN THERE. SO, UM I DON'T KNOW IF THEY COULD ASK FOR A VERY ANSWER THAT THIS IS THE CONCEPTUAL RENDERING TOO. SO I THINK THE FINAL UM YOU KNOW BUILDING PRINCE WILL PROBABLY BE CUSTOMER OR FAIRLY CUSTOM TO THE HOMEOWNER. BUT, YEAH, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING FOR THE HOMEOWNER TO YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WHETHER IT'S A BUFFER ZONE OR JUST A REAR YARD. UM I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING FOR YOU KNOW THE LOT LAYOUT FOR CONSIDERATION BY HOMEOWNERS, SOMEBODY DEVELOPER FOR THE FUTURE.
CONTEMPLATING THE POSSIBILITY OF THOSE VARIANCES BECAUSE CERTAINLY I THINK THAT'S BEEN A CONSIDERATION THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION PUT ON THE RECORD AND PROVIDED SOME FEEDBACK INITIALLY , YOU KNOW TO, I GUESS, LET LET THE DEVELOPER NO LIKE WHAT THEIR CONCERNS ARE AND HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT THOSE VARIANCES. WOULD YOU CONCERNED BE MOSTLY ADDRESSED IF THE LANGUAGE ABOUT BUFFER ZONE ONES OR PROMINENTLY FEATURED IN SALES DOCUMENTATION, SO THAT HE WAS MADE CLEAR TO THE HOMEOWNER THAT BY THE WAY, YOUR LOT YOUR BACKYARD IS AS BIG AS YOU THINK IT IS, I THINK CLEAR BECAUSE SOME OF THE RECENT CASES WE'VE HAD THE HUNGER'S CLAIM THAT THEY WEREN'T AWARE OF HIS RIGHT.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO AWARD AND THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO FIND OUT. I WAS TRYING TO AVOID EVERY ONE OF THESE LIGHTS COMING WITHIN VARIANCE. AND IF I MAY? NOT THAT IT CHANGES YOUR CONCERN, BUT FOR US AS THE DEVELOPER, WE ARE SUPPORTIVE OF THAT BEING A BUFFER ZONE BECAUSE IT IS. IT DOES PROVIDE A NICE EXISTING BUFFER FROM THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES, AND WE THINK THAT'S AN ASSET TO THE OVERALL SALE OF THE PROPERTIES INDIVIDUALLY, SO WE CERTAINLY WANT TO ENCOURAGE IT TO BE LEFT UNTOUCHED AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, RIGHT STIPULATIONS OF WHAT A PROPER ZONE WOULD ALLOW. UH I AGREE. IT'S AN ASSET AND I THINK IT'S GOOD TO KEEP THAT AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT HOMEOWNERS YEAH. WHERE THAT SO THAT WE DON'T GET A LOT OF THEM COMING IN, SO IT WOULD AGREE. I WOULD HAVE SAID TO. THAT'S WHY ONE OF OUR CONDITIONS IS THAT THAT THERE ARE NO BE ADDED TO OUTLINE WHAT THAT BUFFER ZONE IS , BECAUSE CERTAINLY THIS PLAQUE IT'S RECORDED. AND SO ALL THOSE NOTES AND THESE CONFERENCES ON THE PROPERTY BECOMES PART OF THE CHAIN OF TITLE. SO CERTAINLY THIS PLAT WILL TRAVEL BETWEEN BUYERS FROM YOU KNOW HERE. YOU KNOW FOREVER. UM AND CERTAINLY THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE KNOW THAT OUR CONTRACTORS USE A LOT, TOO, AS ON FLATS AND SLIGHT PLANS, UM, AND WHEN DOING THE CHAIN OF TITLE WORK TO FIND OUT LIKE WHAT THOSE BUFFERS OR EASEMENTS ARE AND WHAT THE REGULATIONS ARE ARRESTED ON THE PLATTE THAT CONCERNED THEM. SOME OF THE CONTRACTORS HAVE OCCASIONALLY MISSED THE BOAT.
UM, ON THAT. OKAY IT'S CERTAINLY NOT A GUARANTEE, BUT AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW, WE WILL BE THE ARCHITECT AND BUILDER FOR EACH PROPERTY. I DON'T HAVE ANY TROUBLE WITH YOU GUYS. IT'S THE MANAGING THE EXPECTATION OF THE FUTURE. HOMEOWNERS IS THE CRITICAL ONE AND THAT WAY THEY DON'T ACCIDENTALLY ASK A CONTRACTOR WHO DOESN'T REMEMBER TO PULL THE THINGS THAT LEGALLY , WE'RE FINE TO SAY, YANK OUT $20,000 WORTH OF PATIOS IN THE CONFERENCE CONSERVATION ZONE.
AND ALL THE NOTES ARE ALL THERE AND WE'VE DONE ALL OF OUR STUFF. WE ASKED THEM WHO THEIR LAWYER WAS, AND THEY SAID, I BOUGHT IT WITHOUT A LAWYER AND NO. AND SO MY REQUEST IS THAT THE SALES DOCUMENT NOTE THE BUFFERS. PROMINENTLY SO THAT PEOPLE KNOW AND THAT SO THE PROBLEM BY NO ONE TRIES IT. THAT WILL BE HELPFUL. I SUSPECT THAT THE REAL PROBLEM IS GOING TO OCCUR WHEN THE ORIGINAL OWNER, THE SECOND OWNER, AND THEY DECIDE THAT THEY WANT TO HAVE OLYMPIC STYLE SWIMMING POOL IN THE BACKYARD, AND THEN THEY PUT IT IN AND THEN THEY TELL THEM THEY CAN'T HAVE IT. SEE IT UP HERE FOR THREE REFORMS. YEAH I THINK THAT'S WHERE THAT'S PROBABLY TRUE.
THREE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, RIGHT ? I THINK THAT'S THE OTHER RESPONSIBILITY WILL MAKE THAT POINT. AND YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THE CHAIN OF TITLE WILL CONTAIN A SITE PLAN THAT DOES SHOW THESE EASEMENTS BUFFERS AND ON IT. THAT PERSONS HAVE COMMENTS. NOTING. FOR THE RECORD, THERE IS
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NO PUBLIC AT THIS POINT IN TIME TO OKAY? I MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT THE DOCUMENTS AND STAFF REPORTS INTO THE RECORD FOR DIRECT ONE. AH FINAL PLAN 2020 23 HANDFUL. AND A FINAL PLAN. THAT'S FPL'S SORRY. DO I HEAR A SECOND FROM DOCUMENTS? DISCUSSION ON THE DOCUMENTS MOTION. THE ROLE, PLEASE, MR KIRBY. YES, MR WALLACE. MR SHELL. MR LARSON? YES. MS BRIGGS. YES, DOCUMENTS PASSES 50. DO I HEAR A MOTION ON THE PRELIMINARY AND FINAL PLAN ITSELF? I HAVE TWO CONDITIONS BEYOND WHAT'S IN THIS DRAFT REPORT. ANYONE WANTS THEM. I MOVE FOR APPROVAL. UM F P L 2023 20 OF 2023. THERE WE GO. WITH ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS IN THE STAFF REPORT AND ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS. CONDITION THREE ENCOURAGE SIDEWALKS IN THE HOUSE, SUBJECT TO STAFF APPROVAL. THAT'S NOT A MANDATE BUT AN ENCOURAGEMENT. ITEM FOUR OF THE SALES DOCTOR PROMINENTLY NOTE THE RESTRICTIONS OF THE BUFFER ZONES. DO I HEAR A SECOND? SECOND IN A DISCUSSION OF THE MOTION. THE ROLE, PLEASE , MR KIRBY? YES MR WALLACE? YES MISS BRIGGS? YES, MR LARSON, MR SHELL. FIVE VOTES IN FAVOR. GOOD LUCK. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SOME OF THESE ARE EASY. UM BRINGS US TO VARIANCE 27. AND STAFF ASKED TO TABLE IT SO ANY FURTHER WORD ON THAT, OR JUST IT'S NOT READY YET. I WAS GONNA I WAS GONNA HAND IT OVER TO CHRIS TO GIVE AN UPDATE. IT WAS THE WHICH I'M LOOKING AT THE TAYLOR FARM. YEAH THE VARIOUS APPLICATIONS. WE'RE STILL WORKING WITH CONTACT WITH THE STRATEGIC GUIDANCE TO DO OUR FLOODPLAIN CODE ORDINANCE. WE ANTICIPATE BRINGING THEM BACK TO YOU GUYS. AT YOUR MARCH 20TH MEETING, SWEETIE REQUEST THAT WE TABLED UNTIL THAT DAY. CAN I ASK YOU A CLUE ABOUT WHAT DEVELOPMENT IS LIKE PARKING LOTS , BUILDINGS? UM SO IT'S VERY, VERY COMPLICATED, BUT I WILL ATTEMPT TO PUT IT IN THE MONETARY SENTENCES. SO WE ARE REQUESTING A VARIANCE TO NOT REQUIRE THE CHICKEN HOUSE, THE BARN AND THE NEW RESTROOM FACILITY TO BE BUILT TWO FT. ABOVE THE FLOOD. UH, PLAYING ELEVATION. WHICH IS A REQUIREMENT OF RECORD. THAT'S THAT'S PART OF THE VERY END OF THE SECOND PART OF THE VARIANCE IS REQUESTING I RELIEVE TO NOT HAVE THOSE FLOOD PROOF. AS WELL. AND ARE JUST GIVE YOU A LITTLE GLANCE WITHOUT TALKING ABOUT THE CASE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF JUSTIFICATION FOR THE FLOOD BRIEFING THEM AS THESE ARE HABITABLE STRUCTURES. THESE ARE MORE OF KIND OF ACCESSORY USES ON THE SIDE AND TWO OF THEM ARE EXISTING. CORRECT. YES WE'RE ESSENTIALLY, UH, YOU KNOW, KIND OF CORRECTING AN EXISTING NONCONFORMITY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THAT. LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THE DETAILS WHEN YOU'VE GOT THEM READY. HMM. YES, WE DO. TABLE. VARIANTS CASE NUMBER 27 2023 TO THE MARCH 20TH 2023 MEETING TIME. YEP, THAT'S RIGHT. A SECOND. REMOVED IN SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION TO TABLE OH, PLEASE, MR WALLACE? YES, MR SHELL. MR KIRBY ? YES, MISS BRIGGS? YES MR LARSON? YES VOTES IN FAVOR. THANK YOU. OTHER BUSINESS, NEW[VII. Other business]
ALBANY SOLAR ENERGY. BEST PRACTICE REPORT. YES SO, UH, ANNA VANDER SWAG IS BACKS OF ANNA IS A PLANNER. YOU MIGHT REMEMBER HER. I THINK SHE DID DO SOME STAFF REPORTS WHEN SHE FIRST STARTED HEARING SOME PRESENTATIONS TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, SO SHE WORKS DIRECTLY WITH ADRIAN JOLLY AND THE ADMINISTRATION DEPARTMENTS AND DOES A LOT OF SPECIAL PROJECTS. UM AND ONE OF THOSE THAT SHE'S WORKING ON IS THIS SOLAR ENERGY INITIATIVE. SO THE CITY IS JUST THE BEGINNINGS. OF CONTEMPLATING AND DOING ITS RESEARCH TO UPDATE THE CITY CODES TO INCLUDE REGULATIONS FOR SOLAR PANELS. SO CURRENTLY TODAY, THE CITY DOES NOT HAVE ANY REGULATIONS CONCERNING SOLAR PANELS. I THINK THIS PLANNING COMMISSION HAS PUT SOME ITEMS IN PD TEXT BEFORE TO STATE THAT THEY ARE PERMITTED USES. HOWEVER, BEYOND THAT, IT IS IN[00:40:01]
LARGE PART BEEN REGULATED BY H. O S HISTORICALLY WITHIN THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY. AND I GUESS WITH THAT I'LL LET ANNA GO INTO SORT OF THE BACKGROUND OF THIS REPORT. WE DID AND SORT OF LIKE THE CHANGING CONDITIONS THAT LED US TO DO THIS REPORT IN THIS CODE UPDATE. RIGHT THANK YOU.STEVE I AM HAPPY TO BE BACK, AND I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT UM, OUR WORK ON THIS SOLAR ENERGY INITIATIVE, THE BEST PRACTICES REPORT. SO YOU HAD THREE MEMOS IN YOUR MEETING PACKET. THE FIRST BEING JUST A SUMMARY OF THE REPORT THE SECOND BEING A SUMMARY OF COMMENTS FROM THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD AND THE THIRD BEING A SUMMARY OF COMMENTS FROM THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD. SO YOU'RE THE THIRD OF THREE BOARD MEETINGS THAT WE'RE TAKING THIS TO OBTAIN FEEDBACK AND THOUGHTS. ON SOME OF THESE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE COMING OUT OF THIS REPORT. SO YOU CAN SEE HERE AN OVERVIEW OF THE REPORT. I'LL GO THROUGH EACH OF THESE ITEMS IN A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL. SO THE IMPETUS FOR THIS PROJECT CAME FROM A FEW SOURCES. THE FIRST PRIMARY ONE BEING THE STRATEGIC PLAN. UM YOU CAN SEE UNDER THE SUSTAINABILITY CHAPTER. WE HAD A RECOMMENDATION THAT SAID, PROMOTE THE USE OF SOLAR PANELS AND GEOTHERMAL SYSTEMS AND ADJUST THE CITY REGULATIONS TO APPROPRIATELY PERMIT THEM WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. AND THAT'S REALLY KIND OF WHAT OUR QUESTION IS. WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO APPROPRIATELY PERMIT SOLAR? AND HOW DO WE DO THAT, WHILE MAINTAINING OUR ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS IN THE COMMUNITY? AND SO YOU CAN SEE UNDER THE LAND USED CHAPTER. WE HAD SOME RECOMMENDATIONS RELATING TO ENCOURAGING GREEN BUILDING RESILIENCY AND OTHER INNIT FEET OF BUILDING TECHNOLOGY. DOING THAT THAT WILL CREATE A MORE ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY AND SUSTAINABLE ARCHITECTURAL ENVIRONMENT. SO WE'RE REALLY YOU KNOW, IT SORT OF BEGS THE QUESTION. HOW DO WE BALANCE NEW ALBANESE ARCHITECTURAL CHARACTER WILL ALSO MOVING FORWARD IN A SUSTAINABLE WAY. UM AND SO WE TASKED THIS QUESTION TO ASK OUR PLANNING AND DESIGN CONSULTANTS AND WE ASKED THEM TO RESEARCH OUR PEER COMMUNITIES AND DEVELOP A LIST OF BEST PRACTICES. RELATED TO REGULATING SOLAR SYSTEMS. UM AND THESE BEST PRACTICES CAN HELP US DETERMINE WHAT TYPES OF REGULATIONS ARE APPLICABLE AND APPROPRIATE FOR NEW ALBANY. AND HOPE THAT BALANCE BETWEEN AESTHETICS AND UM SUSTAINABILITY. SO SOME OTHER RECENT LEGISLATION THAT STAFF HOUSE SORT OF. WE BELIEVE THAT THIS AND WE HAVE SORT OF SEEN IT TAKE PLACE. UM LEGISLATION AT BOTH THE FEDERAL AND STATE LEVELS THAT CAN INCENTIVIZE RESIDENTS TO PURSUE SOLAR, THE FIRST BEING THE INFLATION REDUCTION ACT. THIS PROVIDES TAX INCENTIVES FOR CLEAN ENERGY PROJECTS, INCLUDING SOLAR ELECTRIC VEHICLE, OTHER CLEAN ENERGY CREDITS. AND THEN MORE LOCALLY AT THE STATE LEVEL. UM THE GOVERNOR SIGNED OHIO SENATE BILL 61 IN SEPTEMBER, AND THIS LEGISLATION PROTECTS THE RIGHTS OF HOMEOWNERS AND PLANNED COMMUNITIES WHO WISH TO INSTALL SOLAR ENERGY SYSTEMS ON THEIR PROPERTY. SO THIS LEGISLATION DOES THIS BY PERMITTING SOLAR PANELS AS A PERMISSIBLE USE IN PLANNED COMMUNITIES UNLESS EXPLICITLY PROHIBITED BY AN H O R. C O A ASSOCIATIONS ASSOCIATIONS WHO DO NOT PROHIBIT SOLAR PANELS IN THEIR COMMUNITIES MAY ONLY PLACE WHAT THE BILL CALLS REASONABLE RESTRICTIONS ON THE SIZE, PLACE AND MANNER OF SOLAR PANEL INSTALLATIONS. SO WE HAVE YET TO REALLY SEE WHAT THOSE REASONABLE RESTRICTIONS ARE. IT'S NOT CLEARLY DEFINED AND THAT WILL LIKELY TAKE PLACE THROUGH FURTHER LITIGATION. SO MOVING MORE INTO THE SO THE TYPES OF SOLAR APPLICATIONS THAT WERE CONSIDERED IN THIS REPORT, UM WE WANTED TO IDENTIFY WHERE SOLAR COULD BE INSTALLED SO THAT WE CAN SET THE STAGE STAGE FOR DEVELOPING REGULATIONS THAT ARE APPROPRIATE FOR DIFFERENT SOLAR APPLICATIONS, SO WE CONSIDERED RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL VILLAGE CENTER INSTITUTIONAL COMMUNITY SOLAR.
AND THEN WE CALLED OUT ACCESSORY STRUCTURES BECAUSE THOSE MIGHT BE HAVE DIFFERENT REGULATIONS, THEN RESIDENTIAL. AND THEN AS WE CONSIDER WHAT OUR REGULATIONS SHOULD BE, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PREPARING FOR FUTURE TRENDS AS WELL. UM AND SO WE WANTED TO BE SURE THAT ANY FUTURE CODE UPDATES REFLECT, UM . A VARIETY OF SOLAR TECHNOLOGY . AND SO SOME OF THESE, WE
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ALREADY ARE SEEING SOLAR ENERGY STORAGE, PARKING LOT SOLAR BUILDING INTEGRATED PHOTOVOLTAICS WILL SEE WE SEE THE LIKE TESLA SOLAR SHINGLES. THOSE ARE OUT THERE NOT AS POPULAR BECAUSE THEY'RE A LOT MORE EXPENSIVE. BUT THEY ARE OUT THERE. AND THEN SOLAR TRACKING AMOUNTS ARE FAIRLY COMMON, AND THAT'S JUST ROTATING. THE PANELS TO FOLLOW THE SUN THROUGHOUT THE DAY. SO THIS SLIDE JUST SHOWS AN OVERVIEW OF ALL OF THE COMMUNITIES THAT WERE RESEARCHED. UM TO INFLUENCE THE BEST PRACTICES THAT WERE DEVELOPED, UM IN ORDER TO DETERMINE THE METHODS AND REGULATIONS. THAT WE SHOULD PURSUE ITS REALLY IMPORTANT TO SEE HOW SIMILAR CITIES ARE ADDRESSING. UM ESPECIALLY THAT BALANCE THAT QUESTION BETWEEN ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS AND PRESERVING UM. THAT THOSE AESTHETIC CONSIDERATIONS IN HISTORIC PRESERVATION UM, BALANCING THAT WITH UM, THE DESIRE TO INSTALL SOLAR. SO WE CAN. IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THESE COMMUNITIES, I'M HAPPY TO GO BACK OR REALLY ANY OF THIS, BUT I DID WANT TO KIND OF GET TO THE MEAT OF IT. WHICH IS THESE? THAT IS DRAFT PERMITTED USES AND DESIGN CRITERIA. UM SO THIS TABLE SHOWS THE OUTCOME OF ALL THIS RESEARCH AND THAT SUMMARIZING THE RECOMMENDED TYPE OF SOLAR PANELS THAT ARE PERMITTED AS WELL AS THE DESIGN CRITERIA THAT MIGHT BE APPROPRIATE. AND SO THIS IS WHERE WE REALLY FEEL THAT YOUR INPUT, UM CAN CAN BE REALLY CRITICAL TO THIS REPORT. SO YOU'LL SEE HERE AND I KNOW THIS IS THIS IS KIND OF SMALL, UM THIS. THIS CHART. THE X INDICATES THAT IT'S A PERMITTED USE. X WITH AN ASTERISK INDICATES A CONDITIONAL USE. AND THEN IF IT'S BLANK THAT INDICATES. LET'S PROHIBITED IN THAT. UM, SITUATION. SO WHAT I WANT TO DO IS START WITH RESIDENTIAL AND KIND OF WORK OUR WAY OVER AND CONSIDER BOTH THE APPROPRIATE TYPES OF SOLAR INSTALLATIONS, BUT THEN ALSO THE DESIGN CRITERIA AND GET YOUR FEEDBACK ON EACH. UM AND SO IF WE START WITH PRESIDENTIAL REAL QUICK, ONE SLIDE ABSOLUTELY QUICKLY. SO SMART. COULD YOU JUST GIVE A QUICK YES, YES. SO SMART IS A PROGRAM THAT SIGNIFIES TO SIGNIFIES THAT A COMMUNITY IS REALLY OPEN TO SOLAR. UM, WHETHER THAT BE THROUGH THERE. PERMITTING PROCESS OR. MAINLY THROUGH THEIR PERMITTING PROCESS, BUT ALSO THROUGH CODE AND REALLY EXPLICITLY. WELCOMING SOLAR TO A COMMUNITY AND SO SOME COMMUNITIES LIKE UPPER ARLINGTON, UM REALLY, REALLY GO AFTER THAT TO SIGNIFY SOLAR COMPANIES ARE WELCOME. UM AND THEN OTHERS. IT'S NOT AS MUCH OF A PRIORITY GOLD, THE HIGHEST LEVEL GOLD IS THE HIGHEST LEVEL NORMALLY HAPPEN IN NEW ALBANY HAS NOT. WE'VE WE'VE HAD INITIAL CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM. IT'S A THE TECHNICAL SUPPORT FROM THAT IS FREE. IT'S NO COST TO THE CITY. UM, WE JUST HAVEN'T IS IT? IS IT KIND OF LIKE A CERTIFICATION CERTIFICATION? YEAH. MHM. I THINK IT'S SORT OF CITY LIKE TREE CITY USA. IT'S LIKE A RECOGNITION BUT ALSO PROVIDES LIKE SOME SUPPORT AND DATA. AND ALSO PROVIDES TRAINING TO, UM ANYONE WHO MIGHT BE INVOLVED IN THE PERMITTING PROCESS. IS IT OUR INTENT? TO GET TO THAT LEVEL, OR I THINK THAT'S THAT'S UP FOR DISCUSSION.UM. A LOT OF LIKE MORE HAS REALLY PROMOTED THE PROGRAM AND THE CERTIFICATION AND IT'S ULTIMATELY UP TO OUR BOARDS TO RECOMMEND AND TO COUNSEL WHETHER OR NOT THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY WANT TO PURSUE. THANK YOU. YEAH, I THINK THE OVERARCHING PART OF THIS, YOU KNOW TO LET YOU KNOW THAT SOUL SMART EXISTS IS THAT THERE IS LIKE A RECOGNITION PROGRAM. I THINK THE BALANCE WE'RE TRYING TO STRIKE FOR THE COMMUNITY. THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GOING TO THE BOARD AND COMMISSIONS TO FIND OUT. YOU KNOW WHAT IS THE RIGHT AMOUNT OF SOLAR PANELS FOR THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY AND WHERE THE APPROPRIATE WHERE ARE THEY NOT APPROPRIATE WITHIN THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY? CERTAINLY I THINK THERE'S A BALANCE. YOU KNOW SOME LOW HANGING FRUIT, SO TO SPEAK IN CERTAIN AREAS, MAYBE OTHER AREAS WHERE IT'S LESS APPROPRIATE. I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO REACH FIRST. AND THEN YOU KNOW IF WE DECIDE TO APPLY TO SEOUL. SMART, I THINK THE OUTCOME OF YOU KNOW WHAT WE FEEL. SOLAR PANELS ARE APPROPRIATENESS SUPPLIES.
FREEDOM, ALBANY WILL, YOU KNOW SORT OF LAND WHERE WE GET FOR SOUL SMART, SO I DON'T THINK THE GOAL IS TO REACH GOLD. SOUL SOUL SMART. I THINK THE GOAL IS JUST TO FIND THAT RIGHT BALANCE OF
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SOLAR PANELS FOR OUR CHARACTER OF COMMUNITY. ONE QUESTION WAS SO SMART. HOW LONG IS THAT ORGANIZATION MEN IN EXISTENCE? THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION, AND I DON'T KNOW THAT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. I'M HAPPY TO LOOK THAT UP AND LET YOU KNOW. RIGHT? UM SO. SO THINKING MORE AND I'M HAPPY FOR THIS PART TO BE MORE OF A CONVERSATION. WE JUST WANT TO KIND OF COLLECT AS MUCH FEEDBACK AS WE CAN. UM IN TERMS OF RESIDENTIAL. THE BEST PRACTICES INFLUENCED THESE RECOMMENDATIONS. UM AND WE CAN CONSIDER I THINK FOR ALL OF THESE PLACEMENTS THAT SOLAR CAN EITHER BE ROOF OR GROUND MOUNTED , AND THEN OF COURSE, WHEN IT COMES TO ROOFS THEY CAN EITHER BE, UM ON A FLAT ROOF OR A PITCHED ROOF, AND SO THOSE THOSE CONSIDERATIONS CAN PLAY INTO WHAT THESE REGULATIONS WILL AMOUNT TO IN THE END. UM SO FOR RESIDENTIAL BOTH THE BEST PRACTICES SUGGEST THAT BOTH PITCHED AND FLAT ROOF SOLAR INSTALLATIONS WOULD BE PERMITTED USES, HOWEVER, GROUND MOUNTED PANELS WOULD BE A CONDITIONAL USE. AND GO LIKE THE GLOW BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR APPROVAL. AND THEN WHEN IT COMES TO DESIGN CRITERIA FOR RESIDENTIAL UM. PANELS WOULD BE PROHIBITED ON THE FRONT FACE OF BUILDINGS OR IN THE FRONT YARD FOR APPROVED GROUND MOUNTED PANELS. AND SO THIS IS KIND OF WHERE WE ASK. DO YOU THINK THAT THAT'S APPROPRIATE? UM WE'VE HAD BOTH PERSPECTIVES IN TERMS OF DO WE PLACE PANELS? FACING THE PUBLIC RIGHT AWAY. DO WE ENCOURAGE THEM IN THE BACK? IS IT? IS IT A RESTRICTION? IS IT FIRMLY PROHIBITED? OR IS IT A RECOMMENDATION OR ENCOURAGEMENT? SO THOSE ARE OUR QUESTIONS. IF THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE IS ON THE SOUTH FACE, IT'S A REAL HARDSHIP. TO SAY. NO SOLAR PANELS. THAT ARE VISIBLE FROM OFF SITE. BECAUSE THEIR JOB IS TO BE UP THERE IN THE SUNSHINE AND THAT PUTS IF YOU IF YOU GET TREES TO SHADE THEM, THEN YOU JUST LOST ANY BENEFIT. SO FROM A PRACTICAL STANDPOINT, IT WILL TURN DIFFERENT SIDES OF THE STREETS INTO WINNERS AND LOSERS.PERHAPS ON WHERE THEY CAN MOUNT THEM. AND WHY. THAT YEAH. THEY'RE NOT EFFECTIVE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE HOUSE THERE PARTLY AFFECTED ON THE EAST AND WEST SIDE AND CERTAINLY FULLY EFFECTIVE ON THE SOUTH SIDE. SO THE VISIBILITY FROM THE FRONT. I THINK THAT A VILLAGE LEVEL SHOULD BE PUSHED TO THE ECOWAS AND THE DIFFERENT DEVELOPERS AND SUCH TO SAY, WHETHER OR NOT IT'S APPROPRIATE. FOR THE. GROUND MOUNTED IN THE FRONT YARD. I CAN SEE THAT NOT BEING SOMETHING.
THERE IS NOT TERRIBLY AESTHETICALLY PLEASING. UNLESS YOU HAVE A REALLY LONG FRONT YARD. SO MY NEIGHBORS HOUSE USED TO BE 405 100 FT FROM THE ROAD. AND THEIR BACKYARD WAS ONLY 100 FT OR SO DEEP AND SO THEY COULD HAVE PUT A FARM OUT THERE WORTH OF SOLAR PANELS, EXCEPT FOR THE FACT THAT WILL BE IN FRONT OF THE HOUSE. AND SOME OF OUR RURAL LOTS ARE QUITE DEEP. HMM SO I THINK FROM A PRACTICALITY STANDPOINT, MOST RESIDENTS PROBABLY WOULD NOT DESIRE TO PUT GROUND MOUNTED SOLAR AND TAKE UP THEIR YARD. THEIR VALUABLE YARD SPACE. UM I THINK DEFINITELY WHEN IT COMES TO COMMERCIAL, IT'S MORE LIKELY OR LIKE YOU SAID WITH THE MORE RURAL CONTEXT , HOMEOWNER MIGHT BE MORE LIKELY TO DO IT THEN CAN YOU WALK DOWN THE FOUR CATEGORIES? I CANNOT TEXT AND I AM HAPPY TO READ THAT SO TOP FOUR AND THEN THE BOTTOM FOUR. YES, THE RECOMMENDED ALLOWED SOLAR. INSTALLATIONS HERE, THIS, SAYS ROOF MOUNTED PANELS WITH PITCHED ROOF. THE SECOND IS ROOF MOUNTED PANELS WITH A FLAT ROOF. THIRD IS GROUND MOUNTED PANELS AND FOURTH IS BUILDING INTEGRATED PHOTOVOLTAIC. SO THAT'S THAT TEST LIKE THE SOLAR SHINGLES, AND SO THAT'S FROM A USE STANDPOINT AS WELL, JUST TO BE CLEAR. AND THEN THE DESIGN CRITERIA. UM, THE FIRST SAYS ROOF MOUNTED ALLOWED ON FRONT FACES OF BUILDINGS. THE SECOND SAYS GROUND MOUNTED ALLOWED IN FRONT YARD. THE NEXT SAYS, REQUIRE REGULAR QUADRANGULAR SHAPE ON PITCHED ROOFS. SO THIS ADDRESS IS UM, THE CONCERN OF KIND OF A PATCHWORK OF PANELS.
AND THEN THE LAST ONE, SAYS SCREENING FOR GROUND MOUNTED PANELS. UM AND SO, ESPECIALLY IN RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL SETTINGS, AS WELL AS IF WE WOULD HAVE A COMMUNITY SOLAR INSTALLATION THOSE WOULD BE REQUIRED TO SCREEN YEAH, I WOULD PUT THE X ON THE FACING THE RIGHT AWAY. WONDERFUL. SO THE EXCESS MEAN THAT'S WHERE IT IS PERMITTED. SO IT IS WHERE
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ALLOWED WHERE IT'S BLANK IS WHERE IT'S NOT ALLOWED, AS FAR AS THE VILLAGE CARES, AND WHAT THEY DO IS TAKE CARE OF IT. I LOVE THAT. YEAH I THINK THAT'S UM YOU KNOW, I THINK AT THIS POINT, WE'RE JUST COLLECTING DATA AND JUST DO WHAT OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS THINK. I THINK THERE'S NO RIGHT OR WRONG ANSWERS CANDIDLY. UM I THINK THAT'S A VERY REASONABLE APPROACH TO THIS. CERTAINLY. AND SO YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALSO TALKED IN TERMS OF CONDITIONAL USES. I THINK YOU KNOW THAT'S ONE WAY OF LOOKING AT IT. I THINK ANOTHER WAY OF LOOKING AT IT IS VARIANCES AS WELL. SO I THINK IF WE'RE CREATING SORT OF WINNERS AND LOSERS AND WE START REGULATING THESE THINGS, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY WILL EVER BE A WAY TO COMPLETELY PROHIBITED. I THINK ANOTHER THING WE NEED TO LOOK AT A STAFF AND PART OF THIS RESEARCH AND I THINK YOU KNOW IN REGARDS TO THE FEEDBACK. WE'RE GETTING TOO IS YOU KNOW THINKING ABOUT YOU KNOW, WE WOULD CREATE THE NEED FOR VARIANCES RIGHT OF THINGS WEREN'T ALLOWED, AND SO I THINK THAT'S A POSITIVE AND A NEGATIVE RIGHTS. I THINK IT'S A POSITIVE BECAUSE IT PROVIDES RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES ALTERNATE MEANS. BESIDES, STAFF , RIGHT CODES AREN'T BEING THAT AND PROVIDES, UM SORT OF LIKE A FAIL SAFE RIDE TO ANOTHER MEANS TO HAVE THINGS ALLOWED AND HAVE A PLANNING COMMISSION OR BUSY A REVIEW THE APPROPRIATENESS WHETHER IT BE A VARIANCE, REQUESTS OR SOMETHING ELSE. THE THIRD CATEGORY OVER SO WE GOT RESIDENTIAL COMMERCIAL, FOLLOWED BY INSTITUTIONAL INSTITUTIONAL, OKAY? AND SOME OF THE THINKING BEHIND UM, ALLOWING SOLAR ON FRONT FACES OF INSTITUTIONAL WOULD BE. THE IDEA THAT WE WANT TO PROMOTE IT AND USE IT AS AN EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITY. UM WHEREAS THAT NECESSARILY ISN'T AN OUTCOME THAT WE NEED FROM OTHER LOCATIONS. AND SO THESE CATEGORIES ARE SORT OF HOW WE CATEGORIZE FROM A CODE STANDPOINT, THE CITY BOTH FROM A STRATEGIC STANDPOINT, AND ALSO JUST FROM A DESIGN GUIDELINES FROM REQUIREMENTS STANDPOINTS.WE HAVE THESE SORT OF DIFFERENT BUCKETS OF CATEGORIES, SO IT'S RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL AND INSTITUTIONAL. THOSE ARE ALL LIKE OUTSIDE OF THE VILLAGE CENTER. AND SO THE FOURTH COLUMN THEIR SCHOOL CENTER. SO THE SCHOOLS TO I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO HEAR YOUR FEEDBACK ON IF THAT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED PART OF THE VILLAGE CENTER, OR MAYBE IT'S PART OF LIKE AN INSTITUTIONAL USE. I THINK FROM A REGULATORY STANDPOINT, YOU KNOW THE SCHOOLS AND CERTAINLY CHURCHES AND EVEN OUR OWN BUILDING BEING A CIVIL CIVIC USE. YOU KNOW IS TREATED, UM, I GUESS DIFFERENTLY OR HAS DONE SEPARATE REGULATIONS RIGHTS AND SO SINCE THEY ARE THE CIVIC AND INSTITUTIONAL USES, SO I THINK THAT'S ANOTHER CONSIDERATION AS WELL. BUT I THINK THE VILLAGE CENTER IS SOMETHING THAT WE SEE IN AND FEEL LIKE MARKET SQUARE.
HISTORIC VILLAGE CENTER, YOU KNOW, SEPARATE SET OF GUIDELINES AND THE REST OF THE CITY. BUT THE NEXT LAST COLUMN IS COMMUNITY SOLAR. SO IT WILL BE LIKE THE FIELDS. AND THEN ACCESSORY STRUCTURES. I'LL JUST NOTICED THAT IT ON THERE IS SO WE SORT OF SEE THAT I WOULD CANDIDLY AS SORT OF BEING LOW HANGING FRUIT. SO WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IT FROM A REGULATORY CODE RESTRICTION STANDPOINT, SO AS YOU MIGHT RECALL, LIKE A YEAR OR TWO AGO, WE DID UPDATES TO OUR ACCESSORY STRUCTURES CODE SECTION AND WHAT WE CREATED WHAT WE SORT OF COINED AT THE TIME.
THE SANDBOX. AND SO WE ACTUALLY LOOSENED UP CODE REGULATIONS WITHIN, UM, RESIDENT'S BACKYARDS . WE SAID OKAY, AS LONG AS YOU'RE WITHIN THE SETBACKS, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN PRETTY MUCH DO WHAT YOU WANT TO A CERTAIN DEGREE, AND SO IT DID PROVIDE MORE FLEXIBILITY FOR HOMEOWNERS REDUCE THE NUMBER OF VARIANCES THE B C, A AND P C. WE'RE SEEING AND SO USUALLY WITHIN THIS SANDBOX, UM, WHERE THOSE ACCESSORIES STRUCTURES ARE LOCATED, AND SO WE SEE THAT AS BEING YOU KNOW, A POTENTIAL AREA FOR SOLAR PANELS, SINCE THOSE ARE ALREADY REGULATED AND WITHIN A CONFINED SPACE IN AND OF THEMSELVES, ACCESSORY STRUCTURES COUNT FOR LIKE THE LITTLE BRICK BUILDING. SOMETIMES COLUMBIA GAS WOULD PUT IN WORDS GOT LIKE ONE DOOR THAT'S SMALLER THAN A ONE ROOM SCHOOLHOUSE. I THINK THOSE IS THAT ACCESSORY STRUCTURE OR IF IT'S THE ONLY ONE ON THEIR PROPERTIES THAT THE PRIMARY, SO IF IT'S ON LIKE A IT'S FOR PRIVATE USE, LIKE ON A RESIDENCE OR COMPANY THAN IT WOULD BE AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE, HOWEVER, CODE DOES ALLOW FOR OR DOESN'T APPLY FOR ESSENTIAL SERVICES. SO WHEN YOU LIKE PUBLIC UTILITY, SO IF IT'S LIKE A PUMP HOUSE OR SOMETHING USED FOR, LIKE COLUMBIA GAS OR ANOTHER SERVICE PROVIDER THOSE ARE CODE TYPICALLY DOES NOT APPLY TO THOSE SINCE THOSE ARE PUBLIC UTILITIES. SILENT IS PERMISSIVE.
CORRECT AND ACTUALLY, I THINK FOR PUBLIC UTILITIES ARE CODE CALLS ESSENTIAL SERVICES THAT ACTUALLY EXPRESSLY ALLOWS AND SAYS OUR CODES DO NOT APPLY TO THIS. GO AHEAD. IF YOU HAVE MORE SLIDES GOING SO I GUESS THIS IS THE TABLE VERSION AND WE CAN GO THROUGH. EACH OF THE
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RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WERE WRITTEN OUT AS WELL. UM I DON'T WANT TO INTERRUPT ANY THOUGHTS OR COMMENTS ABOUT THIS TABLE, BUT I'M HAPPY TO GO THROUGH. UM, LOCATION BY LOCATION? YES. SO ANY OTHER THOUGHTS IN THE COMMENTS ON THIS TABLE, SO THIS IS SORT OF CATEGORIZING ROOF MOUNTED PANELS BEING ALLOWED. YOU CAN SEE AGAIN. THAT'S THE FIRST ROW RESIDENTIAL COMMERCIAL INSTITUTIONAL NOT IN THE VILLAGE CENTER GROUND MOUNTED, UM, BEING ALLOWED AGAIN BE A CONDITIONAL USE. POTENTIALLY WE GOT SOME FEEDBACK ON THAT, UM, MR KIRBY, BUT ALLOWED IN COMMERCIAL INSTITUTIONAL BANANA VILLAGE CENTER. SO YOU CAN SEE THAT I THINK COMMERCIAL OVERALL AND INSTITUTIONAL HAVE THE MOST BOXES CHECKED AND THEN, UH, VILLAGE CENTER AND PROBABLY RESIDENTIAL ARE PROBABLY THE NEXT AS FAR AS THE LEAST AMOUNT OF BOXES. CHECKS OF MEETING WILL BE A LITTLE BIT MORE RESTRICTIVE. SO I HAVE ONE JUST SORT OF STYLISTIC COMMA AND I REALIZED THIS IS A DRAFT, BUT I THINK THE EXES ARE CONFUSING. I WOULD MAYBE PUT LIKE A GREEN CHECK MARK. YEAH. JUST AN IDEA. I'M CURIOUS IF THIS IS HOW MUCH INPUT CITY COUNCIL OR STRATEGIC PLAN EVERYTHING IS THAT I'M CURIOUS OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET LIKE. DOES THE CITY WANT TO MAKE A STATEMENT ABOUT BEING ENGAGED IN SOLAR, OR ARE WE LOOKING MORE? ALLOWING RESIDENTS AS THEY COME FORWARD AND BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT FRAMEWORK. OR IS IT ABOUT WHAT'S THE DRIVE? CURIOUS THE DRIVING FACTOR BEHIND IT BEFORE I GET INTO SPECIFIC SURE IT'S A GREAT QUESTION. I THINK THE DRIVING FACTOR IS THREE THINGS. SO DURING OUR LAST STRATEGIC PLAN, ADOPTION, YOU KNOW, WE ASKED THE RESIDENTS, YOU KNOW, STRENGTH AND WEAKNESSES, AND WE HEARD FROM RESIDENTS THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE OR THEY ARE INTERESTED IN SOLAR PANELS. THE USE OF SOLAR PANELS IN IN NEW ALBANY, SO I THINK IT'S I THINK IT'S RESIDENT IN INTEREST OR COMMUNITY INTEREST IN SOLAR PANELS. I THINK, UM, SO THAT IS A SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATION TO FURTHER EXPLORE REGULATIONS AND ENCOURAGE THEIR USE THROUGHOUT NEW ALBANY. I THINK IT DOES SAY , THOUGH, YOU KNOW WHERE APPROPRIATE OR SOME SENSE TO THAT. AND SO THAT'S WHY WE STARTED OUT WITH HIS BEST PRACTICES REPORT. SO THIS ISN'T A CODE UPDATE. THIS IS JUST WITH THE FIRST THING WE DID IS STAFF. AS YOU KNOW, SAID, WE DON'T REALLY KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT SOLAR PANELS. AND HOW DO WE DO REGULATIONS FOR YOU KNOW SOMETHING THAT'S ALWAYS CHANGING IN A VERY EMERGING TECHNOLOGIES, SO WE RELIED ON OUR CONSULTANTS TO HELP US. I THINK THE OTHER THING, TOO. WAS THAT STATE BUILD . IT'S A LITTLE MURKY ON WHAT EXACTLY THE OUTCOME OF THAT WILL BE. UM, BUT KNOWING THAT WE HAVE HISTORICALLY AS A CITY RELIED ON OAS TO DETERMINE WHAT THEY THINK IS MOST APPROPRIATE FOR, UM SOLAR PANELS IN THEIR COMMUNITIES ON A SUBDIVISION BY SUBDIVISION BASIS, KNOWING THAT THERE'S THE POTENTIAL THAT THAT STATE BILL COULD BE INTERPRETED AS REMOVING A LARGE SWATH OF THOSE REGULATIONS CAN SOME FEEDBACK AND FEEL THAT MAYBE IT'S TIME FOR THE CITY TO PUT IN SOME CODE UPDATES IN ORDER TO ADDRESS SOLAR PANELS WHERE IT REALLY HASN'T BEEN A NEED. UM I WOULD ALSO SAY WE ARE JUST SEEING MORE SOLAR PANEL INTEREST . SO IF YOU HAD ASKED ME A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, LIKE HOW MANY SOLAR PANELS WE SEE, I WOULD PROBABLY TELL YOU LIKE YEAH. TWO IN THE WHOLE COMMUNITY. MAYBE WE GET ONE PERMITTED NOW, I'D SAY WE'RE GETTING LIKE A HANDFUL EVERY YEAR, NOT SO MUCH IN RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISIONS, BUT CERTAINLY LONG OUR RURAL CORRIDORS. WE ARE SEEING MORE COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES INTERESTED. UM AND ASKING US WHAT OUR REGULATIONS ARE FOR SOLAR PANELS AS WELL. SO I THINK THERE'S JUST MORE OF AN INTEREST BOTH FROM RESIDENTS FROM WE ARE SEEING MORE OF THOSE BEING PERMITTED. AND WHEN I SAY WE WHEN WE PERMIT WERE LITERALLY ISSUING, LIKE AN ELECTRICAL PERMIT, BECAUSE AGAIN, WE DON'T HAVE ANY REGULATIONS, SO IT'S JUST SORT OF MAKING SURE IT'S PLUGGED IN SAFELY. UM AND SO I THINK THOSE ARE THE THREE DRIVING FORCES THAT HAVE STARTED THIS ENDEAVOR AND TO RESEARCHING THOSE THOSE CODE UPDATES. AND I THINK TOO FROM WHAT WE'VE SEEN IS COUNCIL, YOU KNOW, AND FOR THE INSTITUTIONAL USES FROM OUR SERVICE. CERTAINLY PART OF THIS IS AN EDUCATIONAL UPDATE AS WELL . AND I THINK THAT'S BEST PRACTICES TALKS ABOUT THAT WE'VE PUT IN SOLAR PANELS THAT ARE PUBLIC SERVICE FACILITY AT THE BUGLE HEIMER ROAD. UM SO I THINK THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, VIEWED AS CERTAINLY A BENEFIT TO THE CITY FROM A SUSTAINABILITY STANDPOINT. AND YOU KNOW, WE'VE HEARD FROM THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD. I'D LIKE TO SEE MORE OF AN EDUCATIONAL COMPONENT TO ADD IT TO THAT WHICH I THINK ALSO, THERE'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY, UM, THAT THE CITY HAS AND IT'S UM AND ITS BASIS AND WE KNOW TOO FROM THE SCHOOLS . BILL RUSH, YOU KNOW, HELPING THE SCHOOLS GET THAT OS, YOU SOLAR HOUSE ON THE CAMPUS AS WELL. SO I THINK WE'VE SEEN THIS SORT OF GROWING. INTEREST FROM THE INSTITUTIONAL CATEGORY OF FIRST SOLAR PANELS. DID YOU HAVE MORE? BRUCE UM, SOLAR CANOPIES OVER A PARKING LOT, WHICH CATEGORY WOULD BOX DO? THEY HIT? SO I THINK IT DEPENDS ON LIKE WHERE IT'S BEING USED, I THINK[01:05:01]
AND DO WE HAVE A SLIDE FOR THAT? AND I FORGET WE DON'T HAVE A MIGHT HAVE TAKEN UP HERE'S THIS IS JUST AN EXAMPLE. BUT WE DON'T HAVE AN EXPLICIT SLIDE FOR THAT. YEAH SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE FEEDBACK. WE'RE LOOKING FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION. I THINK FROM A RECOMMENDATION STANDPOINTS. I THINK YOU KNOW, WE'D BE LOOKING TO KNOW FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION. WHERE DO WE THINK THIS TYPE OF, UM PARKING LOT COVERING WOULD BE APPROPRIATE LIKE FOR ALL COMMERCIAL USES INSIDE OUTSIDE THE VILLAGE CENTER. DO WE WANT FOLKS TO DO THESE CARPORTS THAT THEIR HOMES SO CERTAINLY ANY GUIDANCE OR FEEDBACK FROM PLANNING COMMISSIONER CERTAINLY WELCOMED THE HOMES WERE ALMOST FALLS UNDER. IT DEPENDS ON THE ARCHITECTURE OF THE HOUSE. BUT FOR PARKING LOTS THAT ARE, YOU KNOW. THAT ONE, YOU KNOW? THERE'S NO ARCHITECTURE TO A PARKING LOT. IT IS NOT GEORGIA TO HAVE A 2023. WHATEVER PART YOU KNOW, THEY DOESN'T GO THERE.UM SO IT IT IT DOES A LOT OF GOOD TO THIS COMMUNITY AND SAY, OKAY, WE'VE GOT CHEAPER POLITICAL POWER FOR WHOEVER OWNS PARKING LOT. WE'VE GOT SHADED PARKING FOR THE SUMMER. THERE'S A HANDFUL OF BENEFITS THAT GO WITH THAT, AND PARTICULARLY FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE CHARGING CARS THAT SAYS THAT YOU CAN CHARGE YOUR CAR WITHOUT PUTTING MORE CARBON IN INTO THE SYSTEM SO YEAH. I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA. SHAWNEE STATE IF YOU GO DOWN, I 70 BETWEEN HERE AND SPRINGFIELD.
CHINESE STATE HAS A PARKING LOT THAT'S GOT PANELS OVER TOP OF IT. WHEN YOU WALK OUT TO A CAR THAT'S NOT ROASTING HOT AND YOU DON'T HAVE A HEAT ISLAND. THE BLACK TOPS, NOT SUCKING UP HEAT BECAUSE UNDERNEATH THE PANELS, YOU'VE GOT 100% SHADE. UM, IS THE OWNER OF A SET THAT ARE ON MY SOUTH ROOF. RIGHT ABOVE MY OFFICE. I CAN TELL THE DIFFERENCE TO HAVING SHADE ON THE YOU KNOW, THE OTHER TEMPERATURES ARE LOWER. SO A GOOD IDEA. I'M NOT SURE WHICH BOX YOU WANT TO PUT IT IN. BUT IF IT'S A PARKING LOT PARKING LOT THAN PEOPLE HEADED COMMERCIAL PARKING LOTS LIKE THE PARKING COMMERCIAL PARKING LOTS. UM SHOULDN'T BE RESTRICTED. IF YOU THINK ABOUT IS IT TIDEWATER ? THE 3 3.5 OFFICE BUILDINGS, WATER. WHAT'S THE WATER'S EDGE? OKAY. HEY MANAGE YOU GOT A BIG, TALL GLASS BUILDING OR YOU GOT A SHORT LAST BUILDING JAPAN? WHICH OF THE FOUR YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? THERE'S NO AESTHETIC. THEY DON'T LIKE GLASS AND PUT IT ON THE BUILDING. SO FOR A LOT OF THE INDUSTRIAL AND INDUSTRIAL CIVIC AND COMMERCIAL. LEAVE IT UP TO THE OWNERS. I MEAN, I THINK WHEN YOU'RE IN A BUILDING OR STRUCTURE, PARKING OR BUILDING. WHATEVER THAT'S GOT A FLAT ROOF. IT'S EASY RIGHT BECAUSE THERE'S NOT A VISIBLE IT IS YOUR VISIBLE IMPACT OF COMMUNITY IN GENERAL, REGARDLESS OF THE USE, WHETHER IT'S RESIDENTIAL ASK CANOPIES OVER THE PARKING LOT, BUT THAT IN GENERAL PLANT ROOTS ARE NOT INTERESTED IN THE COMMUNITY. UM . THEY DID. WE BROKE OUT FLAT ROOFS FROM PITCHED, UM IN RESIDENTIAL THAT THEY HAVE DIFFERENT XS ON THEIR THEY WERE BOTH ACCEPTED, OKAY? GOOD.
REMIND. OH CAPTAIN CAN'T CAN'T LEGISLATE WITH THE AGE ALWAYS DOING. OKAY WELL, THESE ARE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT KIND OF ALIGN WITH THAT TABLE, BUT WE CAN GO THROUGH AND SEE IF ANYTHING, STANDS OUT TO YOU AND AGAIN IF QUESTIONS COME UP OR YOU THOUGHTS DON'T HESITATE TO INTERRUPT THE FIRST. RESIDENTIAL RECOMMENDATION IS ENCOURAGED ROOF INSTALLATIONS TO BE LOCATED. IN AN INCONSPICUOUS LOCATIONS SUCH AS BACK OF THE HOUSE. IT SOUNDS LIKE MR KIRBY.
YOU BELIEVE THAT IT AS LONG AS THEY HAVE ACCESS TO SOUTH FACING THAT'S PREDOMINANTLY THE MATTER.
LEGISLATING AWAY. SOMEONE'S SOUTH FACING ROOF IS PROBLEMATIC. YEAH. BUT FOR THE FOR ANY OF THE OTHER FACES, YOU KNOW, SAYING TRY TO PUT HIM IN THE BACK OF THE CANVAS. FINE, OKAY. WHAT? WHAT DID YOU SAY? UM IF YOU'RE SOUTH FACING THE FRONT FACE OF THE HOUSE FROM ITS A REAL HARDSHIP TO PUT IT IN THE BACK. BECAUSE THE BACK WOULD BE THE NORTH FACE AND THEY'RE WORTHLESS IN THE NORTHWEST. YOU CAN GET SOME MILEAGE OUT OF EAST AND WEST. I HAVE THEM AND SOUTH BASE IS PERFECT. I MEAN, ISN'T THAT GOING TO BE THE PROBLEM? THE PROBLEM IS GOING TO BE WEIGHING THE AESTHETICS OF THE COMMUNITY. EFFECTIVENESS SOLAR AND DESIRABILITY, AND THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S GOING TO BE THERE. THE NEEDLE HAS TO BE BROUGHT. YEAH. THE PAST YEAR. THE MIDDLE
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. I WAS, IN MY VIEW OF THE WORLD AND OTHER PEOPLE CLEARLY DIFFERENT. UM YEAH. HAVE THE H O A THREAD THAT BUT YOU KNOW, THE POINT IS IF YOU HAVE A HOUSE AND IF THE SOLAR PANELS. YES, THAT'S THE WAY IT GOES. WE IT'S JUST LIKE MY OTHER HOUSES AND BACKYARDS TOO SMALL FOR A POOL.I CAN'T HAVE A POOL. I MEAN, IT'S JUST IT'S JUST THE WAY IT IS. AND YOU KNOW IF YOU I FEEL LIKE YOU WANT TO HAVE A SOLAR ONE ACROSS THE STREET NEWHOUSE, OR MOVE OR TRADE OR WHATEVER THAT'S SORT OF DIFFERENT HERE'S A GUY. I THINK I STUDIED TO BECOME A BIG PART OF THIS CONSIDERATION. WHAT COMMUNITIES START TO LOOK LIKE AND THAT IS HOW VISIBLE THEY ARE. FOR EXAMPLE, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S IN PARTS OF THE COMMUNITY YOU HAVE TO HAVE. SHELL ROOF IN RIGHT? OKAY, SWEETIE. SLATE, SO. THAT'S AN AESTHETIC CHOICE IN CHRIS THESE FANCY SOUL. SHINGLES.
CERTAINLY NOT. AND I WORRY ABOUT PUTTING THE ALWAYS BEHIND THE EIGHT BALL THING THAT VERY REACTIONARY IF THEY DIDN'T HAVE THAT. HER BINGE NOW, AND SOMEBODY WANTS TO INSTALL SOMETHING NUMBER SOUTH FACE AND THEY DIDN'T HAVE THAT. FERGUSON RESTRICT THAT. THERE. THERE ARE THERE ON HOOD AND THEN THE NEXT PERSON JUST I DON'T LOVE THROWING INTO THE. TWO THIRDS, IF NOT MORE OF THE COMMUNITIES ARE UNDER NEKO AIR SEA. TO DOING A ROUGH BALLPARK. WHICH HAS THIS UNDER CONTROL. AS FAR AS I KNOW. BECAUSE THE THINK THERE'S TWO HOUSES WOULD HAVE GOTTEN.
PERMISSION FROM THEIR SNEAKER AIR SEA. TO INSTALL SOLAR. IT'S WHAT I'VE HEARD THAT THERE'S TWO OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR A LOT MORE. SO NICOLE HAS ALREADY COVERING A BIG JOKE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY DO. A FOR THE LINKS HAS AND THE LITTLE ONES THEY DON'T KNOW. A LOT OF THE LITTLE ONES ARE MORE RESTRICTIVE THAN THAT, WHERE THE ZONING SAYS IF YOU CAN SEE IT FROM THE STREET, YOU CAN'T DO IT. WHICH MEANS OF YOUR BACKYARD IS VISIBLE FROM THE BACKSTREET.
YOU CAN'T DO IT. SO SOME OF THE 15 OVER HOUSING. IS REALLY, REALLY TIGHT ON THAT BECAUSE THERE'S TOO MUCH VISIBILITY. SO . A LOT. IT'S BAKED INTO A LOT OF OUR EXISTING HOUSES. THE OLD ONES ARE THE ONLY ONES THAT HAVE COMPLETE FREEDOM. THAT'S WHY I IT'S IT MAY ALREADY BE THERE. IF YEAH, I THINK THAT'S TRUE. I THINK THE ONLY THING THAT COULD CHANGE THAT IF SOMETHING HAPPENS WITH THAT STATE BILL THAT AND I MENTIONED EARLIER THAT MIGHT, YOU KNOW HOLD BACK. SOME OF THOSE ABILITIES OF THE WAYS TO REGULATE SOLAR PANELS. UM, AND SO THAT WELL, DID THE BILL SAY THAT IF THEY DON'T ALREADY REGULATED THEN THERE ARE ONLY LIMITED TO REASONABLE THINGS. SO THAT'S CORRECT, OK? OR A REGULAR . IT SOUNDS LIKE IT COULD BE EITHER WAY. WHICH DO NOT PROHIBIT. OKAY, THAT'S NOT REGULARLY. SO IF IT'S IN THEIR CCN ARE THAT THAT IT THAT SOLAR PANELS ARE PROHIBITED. THEN I'M NOT SURE. THAT. THAT HOMEOWNERS WILL BE ABLE TO INSTALL SOLAR IF THE FIRST SECTION TO SAY COULD PROHIBIT IT. BUT IF THEY DON'T THEY CAN ONLY PUT RESOURCES FICTIONS, WHICH SEEMED ODD TO ME. YOU CAN EITHER PROHIBIT IT, BUT IF YOU DON'T PROHIBIT IT, WE'RE GOING TO LIMIT WHAT YOU CAN. LET THEM JUST BUT YOU KNOW, THIS IS THIS IS OUR LEGISLATORS, STUPID CRAP TOGETHER. BUT ANYWAY , I THINK THE SAME WAY I CAN MAKE ANY SENSE I CAN READ TO USE THIS ONE HAS AN EXPECTATION WHEN THEY WHEN THEY SAY IT'S PROHIBITED. THERE'S AN EXPECTATION IS PROHIBITED AND LACKING THAT, AND THERE'S AN IMPLICATION THAT IT IS ADMITTED.
AND THEN THEY SAY, BECAUSE THAT'S THE WHAT YOU WOULD READ FROM IT. IF IT'S NOT THAT IS PERMANENT. YES BUT THEN REGULATE PERMITTED PART. YEAH BUT JUST SEEMS ODD THAT YOU CAN COMPLETELY PROHIBITED. BUT THEN IF YOU ALLOW IT, YOU CAN'T REGULATE IT VERY MUCH. POSSIBLY . AND I THINK I THINK THERE IS A LOT OF FAKENESS AND THAT LEGISLATION AND WHAT EXACTLY? IT
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ALL MEANS WILL BE SEEN. BUT TO ME, I THINK THAT I THINK THAT BRINGS ABOUT WHY WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE IS VERY IMPORTANT. SO UNLESS WE. GETTING ON HOME ROLLED OUT OF THIS IN SOME WAY.THE BANK OF PRIDE EXPLAIN MORE CLEARLY THAN ME, BUT WE SHOULD PROBABLY AS A COMMUNITY. MAKE AN EFFORT TO REGULATE THIS AS MUCH AS WE'RE GOING TO BE ALLOWED TO FIRE THE STATE GOVERNMENT.
ANOTHER QUESTION. DO YOU THERMAL GOT MENTIONED ON THE WAY BY TWO DECADES HAS DONE ANY MORE THAN THIS. THAT WAS LANGUAGE INCLUDED IN THE STRATEGIC PLAN. IT'S NOT CONSIDERED IN THIS REPORT. UM IT MAY BE A THING FOR THE VILLAGE TO DO. BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN LOOKING TO DO INTEGRATED STORMWATER. SO THAT MULTIPLE SITES CAN WORK TOGETHER AND HAVE AN INTEGRATED STORMWATER PLAN WHEN YOU'RE NOT UNDER THE SAME OWNERSHIP. UM AND ACCESS TO UNDERNEATH THE PARKING LOT OR CONDO SHARED OR ANOTHER WAYS BECAUSE THE DRIVING FACTOR HERE IS THAT THE ENERGY CROSS GETS CUT IN HALF. THE SWITCH TO GEOTHERMAL COMPARED TO A REGULAR HIP HOP. OR EVEN GAS. PUSHING 20 YEARS OLD AND WE'VE BEEN WE'VE BEEN ENJOYING THE CHEAP ENERGY, BUT A LOT OF PLACES HAVE A HARD TIME WITH IT BECAUSE YOU NEED ACCESS TO A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF GROUND. THE FARM. BUT I WAS WONDERING IF LIKE THEIR BUILDINGS AND NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE STEAM IS A SHARED RESOURCE. PARTS OF YOUR BUILDINGS. MULTIPLE BUILDINGS ON THE BLOCK. ALL HAVE COOPERATIVE STEAM. DO WE LOOK AT GEOTHERMAL AND SAY DO WE HAVE A SHOT AT THIS? IS THAT. YES, A GEOTHERMAL . YOU KNOW, WE HAVE NO REGULATIONS. FROM THE ZONING STANDPOINT, WE ACTUALLY DO HAVE A LOT OF I MEAN, IN COMPARISON TO SOLAR PANELS. I THINK A FAIR AMOUNT OF RESIDENTS DO USE GEOTHERMAL ALREADY IN THE CITY. AS FAR AS YOU KNOW, SHARED GEOTHERMAL GOES, WE CAN CERTAINLY PUT THAT SORT OF ON OUR LIST FOR CODE UPDATES AND LOOK AT THOSE TO SEE YOU KNOW WHAT OTHER COMMUNITIES ARE DOING TO TRY TO ENTICE THAT? BUT I WOULD THINK YOU KNOW, WE AS A STAFF WOULD CERTAINLY, YOU KNOW, ENCOURAGE THAT USE BASED ON ITS, YOU KNOW, VERY LOW IMPACT.
VISIBILITY WISE, IT'S ALL UNDERGROUND, AND CERTAINLY I THINK THERE'S BENEFITS TO THAT.
ALSO ALL OF THESE DETENTION PONDS IF THEY'RE WET DETENTION PONDS OF ANY SIZE. OH, THERE'S A FREE BEAST JUST SITTING THERE. UM BELL LABS HOME, DALE, WHICH IS THE BUILDING JUST ABOUT THE SIZE OF THE WORST SHOOT, MAN. UM, DID YOU PLANT ALL THE WAY AROUND IT? AND WE HAD TO GET THE GEESE OUT OF THERE. BUT THAT'S WHERE THEY GOT PERMISSION TO TURN THE THERMOSTATS AFTER AN ENERGY CRISIS BECAUSE OUR CONDITION WAS SO CHEAP. BECAUSE GEOTHERMAL ONE IN ALL THE WAY AROUND THE BUILDING. YEAH WE DO HAVE AN ECHOES PROGRAM FOR COMMERCIAL. UM PERMITS AND PROJECTS AND SO I THINK WE COULD CERTAINLY TAKE A LOOK AT THAT I THINK ARE ECHOES PROGRAM IS A WAY WE'VE ENCOURAGED OTHER BUSINESSES AND DEVELOPERS IN ORDER TO GET INCENTIVES TO DO SUSTAINABLE BUILDING PRACTICES. TYPICALLY THEY'RE VERY, VERY CLOSE AND RELATED TO THE SAME THINGS YOU WOULD SEE LIKE IN THE LEAD PROGRAM. SO I THINK THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT WE CAN LOOK AT SOME ADDING THAT TO OUR EGOS PROGRAM LIST AVAILABLE IN PDF SOMEWHERE. YES, THIS IS IN THE REPORT. UM AND I. I CAN DEFINITELY SEND OUT PRESENTATION AS WELL. UM THE REASON WHY I I T MEETING, WHICH APPARENTLY WHEN THIS CIRCULATED RIGHT. OKAY. I DON'T SEE THIS TABLE IN I DIDN'T SEE THE MATERIALISM LAST TIME. OKAY I WOULD. I WOULD LIKE TO START USING UP EVERYBODY ELSE'S TIME ON SOMETHING A SUBJECT THAT IS VERY INTERESTING TO ME AND PERHAPS LESS. SO, TO EVERYBODY ELSE IN THE ROAD. UM AND GO RIGHT IN DEPTH. JUST SO YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHY WE TABLED IT FOR THIS YEAR. THANK YOU ABLE TO BE ALRIGHT. I MISSED THE MEMBER THAT WAS NOW IN MISTAKE. NO NO, I'M OFFERING THE LET'S GET OUT OF HERE NOW. SEND ME THE PDF AND I WILL SHOOT YOU THE COMMENTS AND EMAIL AND I WON'T PUT ALL THESE PEOPLE THROUGH IT. YEAH, WHICH IS WHERE I WAS GOING.
THROW OUT THERE THAT THERE'S THERE COULD BE A WHOLE DIFFERENT WAY LOOKING LIKE THIS IS LOOKING ABOUT USES AND HOW YOU APPLY. HOW DO YOU ALLOW EVERYBODY TO HAVE IT RIGHT? ANOTHER MODEL COULD BE YOU JUST LIMITED TO COMMERCIAL AND THEN PEOPLE THAT ARE RESIDENTS COULD BY GENERAL ENERGY GENERATED COMMERCIAL UNITS SYSTEM. IT'S A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT WAY OF THINKING ABOUT
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IT, AND I'M SURE THERE WOULD BE THAT'S DEFINITELY RADICAL DIFFERENCES IN OPINION ON THAT, MAKE SURE WE CONSIDER ALL OF THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS. AND UH, ONE. I WON'T SAY FINAL QUESTION THROUGH THE VILLAGES THAT WE CONSIDER COMMUNITY. SO WHERE IT OFF IN THE VILLAGE. YES SO THE COMMUNITY SOLAR, I MEAN, IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE CONTEMPLATED ON HERE AS FAR AS, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, A CITY INITIATIVE. YOU KNOW, I THINK WHAT WE'VE LOOKED AT OR WHERE WE'VE WE'RE SEEING WHAT WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT. I THINK RIGHT NOW WOULD BE LIKE THE SERVICE COMPLEX UPON PEOPLE. HEIMER ROAD, I THINK, CERTAINLY , UM, AND ACTUALLY ONE OF THE FEEDBACK ONE OF THE FEEDBACK ITEMS YOU GOT FROM THE ST ABILITY ADVISORY BOARD IS THAT AP MIGHT HAVE SOME RESTRICTIONS ON COMMUNITY SOLAR WITHIN THEIR WITHIN THEIR ZONE, SO WE ACTUALLY HAVE SOME HOMEWORK. TO GO BACK AND DO A LITTLE BIT MORE RESEARCH ON THE POTENTIAL FOR COMMUNITY SOLAR. SO THAT'S THAT'S UH, ALSO, I GUESS MORE MORE INFORMATION TO COME ON THAT, BUT SOMETHING THE OTHER TIME ON OUR RADAR AND WE'RE THINKING ABOUT AS PART OF THIS UPDATE SUSPECT YOU HAVE A NONTRIVIAL TAKE RATE ON ASKING SOMEONE IN A GEORGIAN HOUSE. HOW WOULD YOU LIKE SOLAR BUT NOT ON YOUR HOUSE THAT SOMEHOW YOU GET A BENEFIT FROM THAT THAT IS COMMUNITY SOLAR. AND SO THEY SAY, YES, OKAY. THAT WAY. I CAN CHARGE MY CAR OFF THE SUNSHINE INSTEAD OF OFFERING NATURAL GAS, AND BUT I CAN'T PUT IT ON MY HOUSE BECAUSE MY CHIMNEYS GETTING AWAY, YOU KNOW? YEAH I THINK AESTHETICS YOU KNOW, AS PART OF THE YOU KNOW, CRITERIA THAT THIS PLAN LOOKS AT AND HOW BEST TO REGULATE IT. BASED ON THESE CATEGORY OF USES, I THINK CERTAINLY YOU KNOW, FLAT ROOFS WERE MENTIONED. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A LOT OF WAREHOUSE IS A WAREHOUSES, DATA CENTERS, YOU KNOW, MANUFACTURING FACILITIES AND THE LOOKING COUNTY PORTION OF THE BUSINESS PARK THAT I THINK HAS POTENTIAL FOR SOLAR PANELS. I DON'T YOU KNOW, I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THE COMPANIES, BUT JUST, YOU KNOW, THINKING THAT PURELY AS HAVING LARGE FLAT ROOFS, UM YOU KNOW, IT'S OUTSIDE OF RESIDENTIAL AREAS. I THINK THOSE ARE AREAS THAT YOU KNOW, WE'D LIKE TO KNOW THE POINT AND COMMISSIONS THOUGHT TIME. YOU KNOW THAT THE MOST APPROPRIATE USE DOES THAT MAKE SENSE OUT THERE AS COMPARED TO OTHER PORTIONS OF THE CITY. UM AND SO THAT'S WHAT THIS PLANE WAS TRYING TO PROVIDE AN OUTLINE FOR AS WELL AS FIGURED OUT. THAT'S A GOOD IDEA THAT WHEN YOU'VE GOT A BIG GIANT BOX WITH A TON OF LIGHTS ON INSIDE THAT, MAYBE PUTTING SOLAR PANELS ON THE FLAT ROOF WORTH DOING THE EASIEST THING FOR ME TO GET BEHIND US.THAT WHOLE BUSINESS PARK WITH ALL THAT FLAT ROOFS? YEAH, BASICALLY GENERATED COMMUNITY ELECTRICITY THAT THEN CAN BE MARKED DISTRIBUTED THROUGHOUT THE NAVY IS THE MOST AESTHETICALLY PLEASING. PROBABLY MAYBE BE THE MOST EFFICIENT WAY OF DOING IT, TOO. SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD AT LEAST MAKE AS A CONSIDERATION AS WE'RE LOOKING ABOUT. THE OPTIONS ARE AND OBVIOUSLY THERE'S PRIVATE OWNERS AND BUILDERS AND THE POLICING OF ROOFS, AND THERE'S A LOT TO THAT AS WELL RIGHT. IT'S AN ALTERNATIVE TO CONSIDER. SURE. THAT IS GREAT FEEDBACK. ALL OF THAT. UM, I PUT MY EMAIL UP HERE. I WELCOME ANY AND ALL THOUGHTS ON THE TOPIC AND FEEL FREE TO EMAIL ME. UM ANY QUESTIONS ANY ADDITIONAL THOUGHTS THAT MIGHT COME UP? UM WE WILL BE COLLATING ALL OF YOUR COMMENTS AND I'M HAPPY TO SEND ONE FINAL MEMO TO EVERYONE SUMMARIZING THE THREE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS THAT WE WENT TO AND SUMMARIZING YOUR THOUGHTS AND COMMENTS AND THEN WE'LL BE SURE TO KEEP YOU UPDATED AS THIS MOVES FORWARD. AND GO AHEAD.
OKAY I WAS GONNA SAY YES. SO WE'RE GOING TO NEXT STEPS FOR STAFF GOING TO TAKE OUR FEEDBACK SYNTHESIZED WHAT WE'VE HEARD FROM SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD, THE CITY'S ARCHITECTURAL BOARD AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THEN, UM, JUST SEE WHAT THE OUTCOME OF THAT IS.
I THINK THE NEXT STEPS IS, YOU KNOW, SEE WHERE THERE MIGHT BE OVERLAPPING AGREEMENT, AND I THINK FROM THERE, WE'LL DECIDE LIKE NEXT STEPS FOR THIS CODE. UPDATES. UM AS FAR AS LIKE, TIMING GOES, SO I THINK THAT'S OUR OUR NEXT STEPS FOR A STAFF, SO AS FAR AS TIMING IS AN ACTUAL PRODUCTIVITY GOES TO BE DETERMINED AGAIN. THIS WAS JUST THE BEST PRACTICES REPORT TO HELP GUIDE UM OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AND ALSO STAFF FOR THE FIRST STEPS AND GET FEEDBACK FROM YOU ALL. REGARDING WHAT IS THE MOST APPROPRIATE USE OF SOLAR PANELS FOR NEW ALBANY AS A COMMUNITY. THIS WAS INPUT, NOT YOU NEED A MOTION OF APPROVAL. THAT'S CORRECT. COOL. YES SO AND AGAIN. YEAH. FEEL FREE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THERE'S A LOT MORE STUFF AND RECOMMENDATIONS IN THERE.
WE'RE LOOKING SPECIFICALLY FOR YOUR FEEDBACK ON THE RECOMMENDATIONS SECTION. SO IF YOU GUYS GO HOME AND SEE THAT AND FEEL STRONGLY ONE WAY OR THE OTHER ANY AND ALL THAT INFORMATION IS, UM WOULD BE WOULD BE WELCOMED. FINAL COMMENTS ON SOLO. THANKS FOR PEOPLE CAN'T BELIEVE YOU. FOUR MEMBERS FOR COMMENTS BRUCE THE COMMENTS, DAVE. BUT I DID HAVE
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SOMETHING, BUT I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT IT WAS BACK TO, YOU KNOW? COMMENT THANKS. HMM. THANKS. AND HE LOOKED DAVE. AND WITH THAT WASN'T ENOUGH TIME. AH! WAS THAT COULD HAVE BEEN A SHORT NICE. I WONDER WHAT IT WAS LIKE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT WAS GOING TO GET NEW. STAFF REPORTS FOR. TO TABLE ONES, OR SHOULD WE KEEP IT STRUCTURALLY GOING TO BE A LITTLE DIFFERENT, RIGHT?* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.