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LIKE TO CALL TO ORDER THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE NEW ALBANY. ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD FOR MONDAY, MARCH 13TH 2023, CAN YOU CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE? FOR THE PUBLIC RECORD.
PLEASE KEEP YOUR MICROPHONES ON AND SPEAK DIRECTLY INTO THEM. THANK YOU, MR HINTON. MR EATON HERE. MR BROWN HERE. MR DAVEY HERE. MR MALLETS. MS MOORE HERE MR STROLLER HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER WILL TROUT HERE. FIVE MEMBERS PRESENT WE HAVE A QUORUM. UM. IF THERE ANY COMMENTS OR PROPOSED
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REVISIONS TO THE MINUTES FOR OUR MEETING ON FEBRUARY 13 2023. AND IF NOT, CAN I GET A MOTION? MOVED UP THROUGH THE MINUTES OF THE MONTH OF FEBRUARY, 13TH 2023 ARCHITECTURE BOARD MEETING. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. MR STROLLER? YES, MISS MORE. YES MR DAVEY? YES? MR BROWN STAIN. MR EATON? YES. I HAVE FOUR VOTES IN FAVOR AND ONE ABSTENTION OF THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.[IV. Additions or corrections to agenda]
ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS TO OUR AGENDA? DO YOU HAVE ONE EDITION OVER HERE? WANT TO INTRODUCE TO YOU A SEER? CRADDICK SMITH. WE STARTED WITH THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY AT THE SAME TIME, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT SHE'S BEEN BEFORE YOU TO PRESENT ANYTHING YET. AND SO SHE IS ALSO A CITY PLANNER, AND SHE'LL BE PRESENTING ONE OF THE ITEMS THIS EVENING. GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME. I'M GLAD TO HAVE YOU UM WITH THAT, UM, WE'RE DOING INTRODUCTIONS. CAN WE BROUGHT THEM? ADAM DAVIES? YOU APPOINTED HIM? YES YES. UM ADAM IS, UH, NEW ALBANY RESIDENT HAS YOUNG KIDS IN THE COMMUNITY HAS AN ARCHITECT AND HAS A WONDERFUL EYE FOR DESIGN AND A STRONG COMMUNITY COMMUNITY. AND I'M SO EXCITED TO GET TO WORK WITH YOU. THANK YOU. YES. WELCOME TO HAVE HIM. AND AS I SAID, WILL BE GIVEN A CHANCE FOR ARCHITECT ARGUMENTS ON THE BOARD. AND WE JUST WE WON'T HAVE TO JUST RELY ON MR MALLETS FOR HIS VIEWS. I SAY THAT WITH ALL HUMANS. UM THAT SAID, LET US MOVE ON TO, UM LIKE TO THEN ADMINISTER THE OATH TO ANYBODY WHO'S HERE TONIGHT WHO EXPECTS TO ADDRESS THE BOARD? UM YOU ARE. PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. AND DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? THANK YOU. WITH THAT . LET'S MOVE ON TO OUR FIRST ARE[V. Cases]
CASES WHEN THE FIRST CASE WOULD BE RB 2022 2023 CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR THE INSTALLATION OF A NEW CANOPY ON A BUILDING FOR DEFINED OUTDOOR AREAS USED FOR DINING. LOCATED AT 2 66 EAST MAIN STREET. CAN YOU GIVE YOU DELIVER THE STAFF REPORT, PLEASE? THANK YOU. CHAIR MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. THIS APPLICATION SITE IS LOCATED AT 266 EAST MAIN STREET, WHICH IS ON THE NORTH SIDE OF MAIN STREET DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM THE AVALON OF NEW ALBANY ASSISTED LIVING DEVELOPMENT. THE APPLICATION IS FOR REVIEW AND APPROVAL OF A NEW CANOPY ADDITION TO COVER AND EXISTING PATIO FOR ELLIOT'S WOOD FIRED KITCHEN. HMM. THE EXISTING PATIO WAS APPROVED IN 2012 AND IS APPROXIMATELY 1077 SQUARE FEET. THE PATIO IS LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE BUILDING.WITHIN THE COURTYARD AREA OF THE DEVELOPMENT IN HIS USED AS AN OUTDOOR DINING AREA FOR THE RESTAURANT. TO CONTAIN THE DINING AREA AND EXISTING RAILING AND FENCE DEFINES THE EDGES OF THE PATIO, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT IN THE PICTURES ON THE SCREEN. THERE'S SOME PICTURES THAT WERE PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT OF THE EXISTING CONDITIONS. AND THE FOUR PLAN AND SITE PLAN. THE PROPOSED CANOPY EDITION WILL BE A BLACK FINISH AND HIS 12 FT. TALL THE STEEL CANOPY STRUCTURE WILL SUPPORT A ROOF OVER 600 SQUARE FEET OF THE EXISTING PATIO. THE CANOPY WILL SUPPORT REMOVABLE SEATS, SEASONAL WINDOW WALLS MADE OF BLACK CANVAS, AND THEY WILL HAVE PLASTIC SCREENS
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FOR THE WINDOWS. THE APPLICANT DID PROVIDE SOME SAMPLES DOWN HERE IN FRONT OF ME OF THE CANOPY MATERIAL AND CANVAS MATERIAL. THE UM THE SCREENS AND WINDOWS WILL ALLOW FOR YEAR ROUND USE OF THE OUTDOOR DINING SPACE. THERE'S ONLY IN TEXT REQUIRES ALL COLORS TO BE HARMONIOUS WITH EACH OTHER. THE COLOR CHOSEN FOR THE CANOPY ADDITION IS APPROPRIATE AND HARMONIOUS WITH THE SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT, THE EXISTING AWNINGS ON THEIR BUILDING. AND OTHER BUILDINGS IN THE DEVELOPMENT ARE ALSO BLACK. CONSISTENT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT TEXT REQUIREMENT THAT CANOPY EXHIBITS, 360 DEGREE DESIGN AND BALANCES THE ARCHITECTURE OF THE MAIN BUILDING. THE CANOPY EDITION IS PROPORTIONAL TO THE BUILDING AND THE PATIO AREA AND ITS LOCATION IS APPROPRIATE FOR THIS SITE. THE CITY ARCHITECT HAS REVIEWED THE PROPOSAL AND IS SUPPORTIVE OF THE DESIGN. OVERALL IT SEEMS THAT THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE CANOPY WILL ENHANCE THE QUALITY OF THE BUSINESS BUILDING AND SURROUNDING AREA BY ACTIVATING THE PUBLIC SPACE YEAR ROUND. AND CONTRIBUTES TO THE URBAN CHARACTER THAT IS DESIRED IN THE VILLAGE CENTER. WITH THAT STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. TROUBLE QUESTION STEALING. THIS AUDIO. YEAH, PROVED SOMETHING THAT WE MAY NOT GET AROUND BUILDING IT. I DON'T RECALL THAT FOR THIS LOCATION. UM THE TWO OTHER EARLIEST ONE OTHER ONE IS FOR HUDSON. 29 I BELIEVE IS WHEN WE LOOK BACK AT OUR RECORDS THAT WE COULD FIND THEY MIGHT HAVE COME CONCEPTUALLY, BUT THERE WAS NEVER A FORMAL APPLICATION FOR COVERING. NOT NOT THAT IT'S ALL OVER TO THIS JUST TRYING TO GO BACK AND SEE IF I COULD REMEMBER. UM ANY COMMENTS, QUESTIONS OBSERVATIONS FROM THE BOARD. I THINK IT'S AN IMPROVEMENT TO THE SIDE LIKE THE DETAILS. PLUS. PROTECTED BY THE WAY IT FITS WITH THE BUILDING. THEY DID A GOOD JOB. I AGREE. I AGREE AS WELL. I THINK IT'S VERY NICE. MY ONLY QUESTION WOULD BE AND I DON'T SEE A SECTION JUST THE RENDERING. AND MAYBE IT'S JUST A RENDERING ISSUE, BUT WITH THE TOP OF THE CANOPY HIT THE UNDERSIDE OF THE DETAIL OF THE BRICK UM, THERE'S ONE IMAGE THE TOP LEFT. IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S A COUPLE INCHES LOWER, COULD JUST HIT THAT UNDERSIDE THAT IT WOULD LOOK MORE PURPOSEFUL. UM THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING, BUT, UM THE APPLICANT COULD PROBABLY SPEAK TO THAT A LITTLE BIT BETTER.PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF IF YOU CAN. FRANK WEAVER WITH WS, A STUDIO REPRESENTING ELLIOTT. YES THAT'S OUR INTENTION IS TO GO UP AND HIT THAT BRITAIN. MIGHT NOT BE AS CLEAR IN THE RENDERING.
BUT THAT SEEMS IT LOOKS GREAT. I JUST FIGURED BUT JUST WANTED TO BREAK IT UP. THANK YOU. I THINK THE DESIGN LOOKS BEAUTIFUL. SO I'M DEFINITELY A BIG THING OF ELLIOT'S AND LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING THIS KIND OF AMENITY COUPLE BUILDING QUESTIONS. UM. A NEW C I. THERE IS A DOWNSPOUT IN THE EXISTING IMAGE WITH WOULD THERE BE ANY RELOCATION THAT DOWNSPOUT WITH IT? NOW WELL, THE DOWNSPOUTS CLOSER TO THE CORNER CANOPY, AS YOU CAN SEE, IN THE UPPER OR IN THE FLOOR PLAN IS ACTUALLY HELD BACK FROM THE CORNER. AND THEN THE EXISTING. CAN IT BE THE SMALLER ONE THAT WOULD BE REMOVED AWAY? SO THAT THAT ONE TUCKS IN UNDERNEATH THE BRICK. UM WHAT WOULD THE PLAN FOR ATTACHMENT OF THE CANOPY AT THE BREAK B. AH IT'S KIND OF A PRE BAD KIND OF SYSTEM OF PARTS KIT OF PARTS. UM BUT THERE'LL BE A FLASHING DETAILS THAT GOES UP AND TIES IN UNDERNEATH THAT BRICK. NO. NOT LYING ACROSS THERE. AND IT'S A METAL. IT'S A METAL ROOF. IT'S KIND OF AN UPGRADE FROM JUST THE FABRIC CANOPY. ANY OTHER COMMENTS, NOT ENTERTAIN A MOTION. YEAH, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. THE DIFFICULT APPROPRIATENESS FOR A RB 20 TO 2023. IN THE 2ND 2ND. MR BROWN? YES. MR STROLLER? YES. MR EATON ? YES MR DAVEY? YES, MISS MORE?
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YES. 5000 FAVOR. MOVING ALONG. WE CAN MOVE ON TO OUR B 20 RB. THIS HAS 33 ARE WE ARE WE ARE AT 33. JUMPED ALL THE WAY FROM 23 TO 33. ALRIGHT I'LL BUT THAT JUST CONTROLLED MY SHOCK RB 33 2023 A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR THE EXPANSION OF A SCHOOL CAMPUS PARKING LOT LOCATED AT 7600 PHOTO OR ROAD AND WE GET THE STAFF REPORT. GOOD EVENING. THIS APPLICATION IS REQUESTED BY THE AH, MANIC SMITH GROUP WHO WOULD LIKE TO EXPAND THE EXISTING HIGH SCHOOL PARKING LOT. ACCORDING TO CODE NEW PARKING LOTS ARE TO BE REVIEWED BY THERAPY. THE PARKING LOT IS LOCATED ON THE SCHOOL CAMPUS. IT IS EAST OF PHOTO ROAD AND WEST OF THE HIGH SCHOOL AND FOOTBALL STADIUM. AND THIS THIS RED DELINEATION. SORRY. IS RED DELINEATION AS THE LOCATION FOR THE NEW PARKING LOT EXPANSION. THE MANIC GROUP WOULD LIKE TO EXPAND THE EXISTING HIGH SCHOOL PARKING LOT ALONG PHOTO ROAD. THIS IS THE COMEDY, ADDITIONAL PARKING SPACES BASED FUND AND ANTICIPATED INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS ATTENDING IN THE NEXT 10 YEARS. THIS APPLICATIONS OF MIDDLE INCLUDES A HISTORIC AND HISTORICAL ENROLLMENT REPORT AND FUTURE PROJECTIONS. THE REPORT INDICATES THAT STUDENTS ENROLMENT PROJECTIONS COULD INCREASE BY A MAXIMUM OF 16% OVER THE NEXT 10 YEARS, THUS ADDRESSING THE NEED WITH THE ADDITION OF 28 PARKING SPACES. BRINGING THE TOTAL NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES TO 327 SPACES. IN ADDITION TO THE PARKING REQUIRES ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPE, AND ACCORDING TO THE APPLICATION, THE APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED AN ADDITIONAL TWO ISLANDS WITH TREES THAT ARE PARALLEL TO THE EXISTING ISLANDS. THIS EDITION EXCEEDS THE RECOMMENDED NUMBER OF TREES BY PROVIDING A TOTAL OF FOR NEW TREES. KIND OF LOCATED OVER HERE. PARALLEL. PARKING LOT EXPANSION IS LOCATED ALONG PHOTO ROAD, WHICH REQUIRES ADDITIONAL PARKING SCREENING TO THE PUBLIC STREET. THE APPLICANT HAS INSERTED EVERGREEN SHRUBS ALONG THE EDGE OF THE PARKING LOT. IN ADDITION, A STORM WATER BASIN IS INTEGRATED WITH EVERGREEN SHRUBS SCREENING. THE STORM. WATER BASINS DESIGN INCLUDES A NATURAL CURVATURE SHAPE AND THIS PLAINTIFF WITH ORNAMENTAL GRASSES FOR ANY ALS AND THE EVERGREEN STRIPS. YOU CAN SEE IT HERE GOING ALONG THE EDGE. JUST CONNECTED. IN ADDITION, ALL PARKING LOT DIMENSIONS, ACCORDING TO CODE HAVE BEEN MET. THE RV SHOULD EVALUATE THE OVERALL PROPOSED BASED ON THE REQUIREMENTS IN THE URBAN CENTER CODE AND THE CODIFIED ORDINANCE CHAPTER 11 71. THE ADDITION OF PARKING IS TO ACCOMMODATE THE FUTURE GROUP OF STUDENTS ATTENDING THE HIGH SCHOOL EXPANSION DOES NOT APPEAR TO BE SUBSTANTIAL BECAUSE IT DOES NOT DISRUPT THE FLOW OF TRAFFIC, NOR DOES IT DISRUPT THE SCHOOL'S CHARACTER. FURTHERMORE THE ADDITION OF LANDSCAPING IS APPROPRIATE FOR THE SCHOOL'S CHARACTERISTICS. THE SITE LAYOUT APPEARS TO BE MATCHING THE INTENT OF THE STANDARDS AND GOALS FOUND WITHIN THE NEW THE ENGAGEMENT ALBANY STRATEGIC PLAN AND THE URBAN CENTER CODE. FOR INSTITUTIONAL USES ON SCHOOL CAMPUSES. THEREFORE THE NEW AND EXPANDED PARKING LOT CONFIGURATIONS APPEAR TO BE APPROPRIATE. AND STAFF CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UM IS THERE ANY THERE'S THE APPLICANT HAVE ANY ANYTHING TO KIND OF ADD TO STAFF REPORT AND COME UP AND INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND SAMUELSSON WITH MANIC SMITH GROUP AND CIVIL ENGINEER REPRESENTING THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, RIGHT? I MEAN, YOU DID A GREAT JOB SUPER HELPFUL FOR THIS WHOLE PROCESS, SO I REALLY WANT ANYTHING TO ADD. IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS, I'M HERE TO ANSWER. REMIND ME THAT I CAN ARE THESE LOTS LIT. THERE ARE THERE ARE EXISTING LIGHTING FIXTURES OUT THERE WERE ACTUALLY FROM COZY TO CHANGE OUT FIXTURES TO ACTUALLY SINGLE HEAD LAST ROAD. TWO HEADS OUT THERE THEY WILL BE. IS THAT REFLECTED IN THIS REPORT? YES, IT IS. IT IS THAT I LOOK FOR IT. I'M NOT GOOD ENOUGH IN TERMS OF READING IT TO SEE IT. BUT IF[00:15:06]
IT'S OKAY, SO THAT'S IN HERE, UM AND THEN IN TERMS OF THE SELECTION OF THE LANDSCAPING WILL THAT MATCH THE EXISTING LANDSCAPING IN TERMS OF VARIETY OF TREES? TREES? TREES ARE GONNA BE THE SAME. YES, WE'RE TRYING TO MATCH THE TRUTH AS BEST AS POSSIBLE. THERE IS NO CURRENT LANDSCAPE SCREENING ADJACENT TO THE PARKING, SO THAT'S ALL GOING TO BE NEW TO MATCH THEIR HAVE A QUESTION ON THAT, ACTUALLY, SO IT LOOKS LIKE A SATELLITE PICTURE IN THE LAST PAGE OF THE PACKET THAT THEY'RE GONNA BE TAKING OUT CONSTANTLY. FOUR OR FIVE TREES THERE ON THE SOUTH.SO ARE YOU GOING TO PUT NEW TREES IN I MEAN, I'VE BEEN TOLD THOSE ARE ASH TREES, AND THEY'RE COMING OUT. REGARDLESS UM, AT THIS PROJECT HAPPENS OR NOT. SO WE DIDN'T PLACE THOSE TREES. WE JUST THE MINIMUM OF LANDSCAPE DEPARTMENTS AND ISLANDS. IS THERE NO SCREENING REQUIRED AT THE AROUND THE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE PARKING LOT NO. ONLY ALONG THE PRIMARY ROADWAYS, WHICH IS PHOTO WROTE IN THIS CASE. I MEAN, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT WE HAVE WE HAVE SCREENS IN THE NORTH SIDE THERE IN THE TREES, AND WE'RE TAKING OUT WHAT WAS THERE EVEN THOUGH THEY MAY BE TREES, AND IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE THOSE REPLACED ON THE SOUTH SIDE TO BE CONSISTENT.
GOOD POINT. YEAH QUESTION REGARDING THE DETENTION BASIN. YOU'VE GOT A SMALL PROPOSED BASIN. UM OR THEIR CALCULATIONS DONE TO DETERMINE THAT THE EXISTING BASIN WAS INSUFFICIENTLY SIZED OR INITIAL RESEARCH THAT THAT IS NOT CLASSIFIED AS A WETLAND. OUR INTENTION WAS TO BASICALLY PROTECTED WHAT THEY SECONDARY BASIS. OKAY, FLOW INTO THAT PREVIOUS TO THE OKAY? SO THE WAY THAT THE LOT IS GREAT. YOU'RE REALLY ONLY GOING TO GET WATER FROM PRIMARILY THE NEW PORTION OF THE LOT INTO THIS. THE BASIN. I WAS GONNA BRING UP FOR THE PARTNER LOOKS LIKE A NO BRAINER . IT REALLY LOOKS LIKE IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN THERE FROM THE BEGINNING. MY STYLE SAME QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS ABOUT THE TREES ARE EARNING. FEEL LIKE THE PLAN CAN REALLY DO IT. JUSTICE WHEN YOU LOOK FROM A STREET VIEW HOW SUBSTANTIAL THOSE TREES ARE.
SO IT DOES FEEL LIKE IT'S A BIG CHUNK OF THREE THAT'S GOING AWAY SO THAT THAT IS KIND OF THAT WAS GONNA BE MY FIRST QUESTION. BUT IF THEY'RE GOING AWAY, REGARDLESS, I DON'T I THINK THERE'S MUCH ELSE WE CAN DO. EXCEPT MAYBE ASKED THAT SOME OF THE SCREENING IS CONSIDERED AS A LARGER TREE OR SOMETHING. THAT KIND OF HELP FILL THAT VOID WAS THAT HOSPITAL REQUIREMENT WHEN THEY BUILT THIS PARKING LOT. THOSE TREES WERE THERE THAT THEY WERE PART OF THE DESIGN. GOT MY APPROVAL BACK THEN, IF THOSE TREES WERE THERE, WE UNDERSTAND THEY'RE DYING BUT STILL BE REPLACED IN THERE. GOOD QUESTION FOR STAFF. YES IF THEY WERE TAKEN UP WITHOUT THE PROJECT, WITH THE SCHOOL REQUIRED TO REPLACE IT, SO WE LOOKED AT THE OVERALL NUMBER OF TREES IN TURN INTO THE PARKING LOT VERSUS THE NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES AND LOOKS LIKE THEY ARE MEETING CODE REQUIREMENTS, EVEN WITHOUT THOSE BEING REMOVED AND WITH THE NEW ONES, ADDED SO WE DON'T IT'S HARD TO SAY IF THOSE WERE NECESSARY ORIGINALLY JUST BASED ON THE QUANTITY, SO THE GENERAL STANDARD IS ONE TREE PER 10 PARKING SPACES. AND BASED ON OUR GENERAL ACCOUNT OF THE OVERALL AND DOESN'T IT SEEMS EVEN WITH THE REMOVAL OF THOSE TREES, THEY'LL STILL BE MEETING CODE REQUIREMENTS BASED ON TODAY'S STANDARDS. DO WE HAVE ANY. CAN WE REQUEST THAT THEY BE ADDED BACK OR IS THAT OUT OF OUR JURISDICTION? NO I THINK THAT'S CERTAINLY WITHIN THE REALM OF THE ARABS PREVIOUSLY LIKE TO ADD A CONDITION FOR CONCERNING LANDSCAPING. THANK YOU. WHAT WOULD YOU PROPOSE THAT THEY BE REPLACED ON THE SOUTH SIDE SO THAT IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S 1234.
SIX OR FIVE OR 65 THAT THOSE FIVE TREES BE REPLACED THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE PARKING LOT GREAT STANDPOINT, I THINK IT'S A GOOD POINT. GOOD POINT FROM A GREAT STANDPOINT. IS THERE AN ISSUE WHERE THE LIGHT FALLS ON? JUST SUGGESTED THAT WE HAVE SOME TIE INS FOR THAT INFLUENCE PARKING LOT. THERE'S ALSO AN EXISTING MODEL LINE THAT RUNS THROUGH THAT AREA. IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S A REQUIREMENT, I THINK WE COULD WORK AROUND IT. WOULD THERE BE A CALIPER SIZE IF YOU WOULD BE SHOOTING FOR TO REPLACE OR WHAT WOULD HAVE HEARD OF THE CITY LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT? 2.5 INCHES, PROBABLY YEAH. 2.5 TO 2 2.5, AS I WOULD SAY THE STANDARD FOR PRIVATE LANDSCAPING THREE'S SUBJECT STAFF APPROVAL. YES, IT WOULD BE HAPPY TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE APPLICANT HAVE OUR ENGINEERS WORK TOGETHER? FEEDBACK AND FIGURE OUT THE IDEAL LOCATION FOR TREES ALONG
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THAT AREA BETWEEN THE PARKING AND THE FENCE. AND KIND OF JUST A HAVING HAD A KID IN HIGH SCHOOL. THIS IS IN THE STAFF A LOT. I KNOW SO PEOPLE ROOM FOR TEACHERS AND NOT STUDENTS. BUT ALSO THE PARKING FOR THE STADIUM FROM DONALD. OKAY BUT YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD POINT, NEITHER HERE OR THERE AND NOT AND NOT WITHIN THIS BOARD'S JURISDICTION. SORRY ADAM. DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE IN SERVING? NO I FOR THE THREE THAT ARE THE TREES. I WAS JUST GONNA POINT OUT THERE, SO IT'S LOOKS LIKE SEVEN OF THE KIND OF LARGER TREES AND THEN YOU ARE GETTING FOR ADDITIONAL OKAY? YES STREET TREES THAT GO WITHIN THE ISLANDS, BUT THERE'S KIND OF NO COMPARISON WHEN YOU LOOK, UM THIRD. TWO VERSIONS OF TREE EQUAL ONCE DEFINITELY NOT A REPLACEMENT FOR THE OTHER. I WAS GONNA SUGGEST MAYBE LOOKING AT KEEPING THE, UM PLANNED SOUTH TO TREES OR SO, BUT YOU KNOW, I THINK IT DOESN'T REALLY MAKE SENSE WITH WHAT'S BEEN DISCUSSED FOR THE HMM. THOSE TREES I THINK, JUST MAYBE LOOKING AT GETTING IT EVEN JUST ONE OR TWO.TREES ON THAT ON THE ROADSIDE WOULD BE EVEN A BIG MAN. I'LL BE RECEPTIVE TO ANY MOTIONS THAT SOMEBODY WANTS TO MAKE. SO I'M SORRY YOU'RE SAYING YOU WANT HIM ON THE PHOTO ROAD TIME? SO YOU'RE SUGGESTING I DON'T THINK THERE IS NECESSARILY GOING TO BE SPACE TO HAVE ANYTHING LARGER THAN WHAT'S SHOWN ON WITH THIS KIND OF HIGHLAND TREES BECAUSE OF THE WATER LINE. IT'S LIKE THAT IN THE DROP OFF. I THINK MAYBE JUST LOOKING AT A LITTLE MORE OF A SUBSTANTIAL UPGRADE TO THE WHERE THAT SMALL DETENTION BASIN IS THAT'S ALL SMALLER, SMALLER PLANTS, MAYBE SOMETHING A LITTLE MORE SUBSTANTIAL IN THAT AREA. SO I WAS SUGGESTING HERE BUT YOU'RE SAYING HERE I'M SAYING JUST WHERE THE THERE'S A YEAH. SO I'M JUST SAYING IT IN THIS AREA HERE. BECAUSE THERE WITH THE WATER LINES AND THE DROP OFF AS IT GOES TO THE POND. NOT SURE THERE'S ENOUGH SPACE.
YES, THE WATERLINE DOES. SO THEY'RE TAKING IT FOR LOSING SEVEN SO. BEFORE THE RIGHT ROUTE TABLE. YEAH. LOCATION FOR STANDARD. FOR A WHILE. WE'RE HAPPY TO CONTINUE WORKING WITH THE APPLICANT ON THOSE LOCATIONS. WE HAVE GOOD GUIDANCE FROM THE AIR B. I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS. ONE IS KIND OF A OVERALL QUESTION. DO YOU KNOW WHY THIS WASN'T BUILT OUT BEFORE? I DO NOT. I DON'T KNOW WHO WAS ORIGINALLY PLANNED OR NOT. IT LOOKS LIKE IT. IT WAS.
YEAH I DON'T. I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY DIDN'T BUILD THAT WITH THE ORIGINAL PARKING LOT. I CAN TELL YOU THE PARTY LAST 25 YEARS OLD, SO OKAY, THAT MY CONCERN IS THAT IT WASN'T DONE DUE TO SOME SORT OF WELL REASONED. MAYBE. I THINK GOING WAY BETTER GOING AWAY BACK HERE IT IS THERE THERE. THERE WAS GOING TO BE AN AUDITORY LARGE, MUCH LARGER AUDITORIUM THERE AT ONE POINT, AND SO IT MAY HAVE BEEN THAT IT WAS PLANNED OUT, THEN ADD MORE PARKING. IF IN FACT THEY EVER BUILT THAT LARGE UP, TORREY, UM THERE AND THEN MCCOY MADE THAT YOU'RE ROLLING. IT'S JUST INTERESTING THAT THAT ONE LITTLE CORNER ISN'T BUILT OUT, AND I'M WONDERING IF I AM SURE YOU'VE THOUGHT ABOUT IT. BUT IF THIS CIRCULATION OF THIS PARKING LOT IS GOING TO IS GOING TO WORK IT SHOULD REMAIN THE SAME DROP OFF FOOD THAT COMES THROUGH THERE FOR THAT. YEAH, THAT IS A VERY LARGE CONCERN FOR YOU KNOW. YEAH ACTUALLY MORE AND MORE VIEWING FOR DROP OFF, OKAY? AND THEN MY SECOND QUESTION IS THE WETLAND IS THAT I JUST WANTED TO VERIFY WHERE THE WETLANDS STARTS AND THAT PART OF THE PAGE AND THE EXISTING BASIN THAT GOAL WITH DEVELOPMENT. YOU CAN KIND OF SEE IF THERE IS A DIRECT THROUGH. OKAY IT'S BEEN THERE LONG ENOUGH NOW THAT THERE'S ACTUALLY A WETLAND PLANTINGS GROWING IN THAT AREA, SO WE DIDN'T ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY AND BLOCK THE SITE. WE DEEMED IT. THAT WAS A WETLAND. YEAH, WE PROTECTIVENESS SECOND BASICALLY . THAT IS JUST DUMP WATER. EXACTLY AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PARKING LOT EDITION IS NOT ENCROACHING IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM AND I KNOW THAT STEPHEN TOLD ME THAT THERE'S AN EXISTING EVENTS TRYING TO MAKE SURE OKAY, THE CITY ACTUALLY GOT WATER QUALITY GRANT. I MEAN, 8 10 YEARS AGO. IT WAS 2014 WAS IT, UM, TO ENHANCE THAT WETLAND IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT TO MAKE IT LOOK MORE NATURAL? BECAUSE IT KIND OF WAS THIS REALLY DEEP LIKE YOU GUYS WILL REMEMBER IT WASN'T VERY SLIGHTLY, SO WE TRIED TO IMPROVE
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THE AESTHETICS OF IT, AND WE GOT A GRANT TO IMPROVE THE WATER QUALITY GRANT USING NATIVE PLANTS TO TRY TO IMPROVE THAT. OKAY? ALL RIGHT. THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE PROGRAMS FOR APPLICATION AIR BEAT 33 DAYS 2023 SUBJECT TO THE ADDITION OF THREE TREES, UM AROUND THE NUMEROUS DISSENSION. POND AREA. BROUGHT A ROADSIDE SUBJECT TO STAFF APPROVAL. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I WAS GETTING ALL SECOND. MR STROLLER? YES MR BROWN. MR EATON. MS MOORE? YES. MR DAVEY? YES. I HAVE 5000 FAVOR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND YOUR ANSWERS. UM MOVING ALONG WE CAN COME TO OUR B 34 2023. A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR THE NEW FOR NEW IMPROVEMENTS THAT TAYLOR FARM PARK. THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY. YES IT IS A CITY PROJECTS. SO FIRST OF ALL I WANT YOU GUYS NOT TO LOOK OUTSIDE THE WINDOW AND GET INTO THE MINDSET THAT IT'S A BEAUTIFUL, WARM, SUNNY SUMMER'S DAY AND WE ARE OUT ENJOYING A PARK. AND SO LET'S THINK ABOUT WHAT WE WANT THIS PARTICLE LIKELY I WILL INTRODUCE MYSELF BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A NEW BOARD MEMBER. AND THEN WE HAVE A MEMBER OF OUR TEAM HERE. I'M ADRIAN JOLLY. I'M THE DIRECTOR OF ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES FOR THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY. BUT FOR MANY YEARS ADAM MY STAFF THIS BOARD WITH STEVE AND SO VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE BOARD AND THE WORK THAT YOU DO. I ALSO HAVE DAN HAINES. HE IS, UM, THE PRINCIPAL WITH COLUMBUS ARCHITECTURAL STUDIO, AND THERE ARE ARCHITECT ON RECORD FOR THE TAYLOR FARM PARK PROJECTS. SO WHAT KIND OF DELVE INTO THE DETAILS OF YOUR REQUEST TONIGHT ? I THINK I DON'T KNOW IS THAT DECEMBER FOR JANUARY? WHEN I WAS HERE AND JUST GAVE AN OVERVIEW OF THE ENTIRE PARK PROJECT, SO IT KIND OF ADVANCED SOME OF THOSE PLANS, AND PER, UM UM, THE CODE AND THE D GRS. WE'RE HERE TONIGHT TO TALK ABOUT JUST KIND OF THE SORT OF THE GUESS IT'S NOT ACTUALLY A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS. BREAKFAST WHAT IS IT? IT WOULD BE A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR THE NEW BUILDING. YEAH. ALL ALL THE OTHER IMPROVED IMPROVEMENTS ON EXISTING TO THOSE WOULDN'T BE UNDER THE PURVIEW OF THIS TONIGHT, BUT IT IS REALLY BUILDING YES, CREDIT. YEAH. GO FOR IT GREAT. SO UM, EVERYONE'S FAMILIAR, YOU KNOW, WITH THE LITTLE VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE LEGISLATION OF TELEPHONE PARK. OKAY SO JUST, YOU KNOW, A BRIEF BACKGROUND. I KNOW YOU GUYS KNOW MOST OF THIS, BUT THIS IS A 98 ACRE SITE THAT IS ON THE WESTERN GATEWAY OF NEW ALBANY. AND SO WE ARE FOUNDED ON THE WEST BY ROCKY FORT CREEK. THE SOUTH OF DUBLIN. GRANDMA ROAD ON THE EAST. HERE.
WE HAVE SUGAR RUN, AND THIS IS HARLEM ROAD. UM THIS IS A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S ACTUALLY IN COLUMBUS JURISDICTION, BUT WE BORDER THAT ON THE L SHAPE OF THE PARK, AND THEN WE HAD STATE ROUTE 1 61 TO THE NORTH. THE PARK ITSELF, THE CITY OF ACQUIRED IT IN SUMMER OF 2021 FROM A PRIVATE LANDOWNER THAT HAD BOUGHT IT FROM THE ORIGINAL FAMILY THAT SETTLED THIS AREA IN THE EARLY 18 HUNDREDS, THE PREVIOUS PROPERTY OWNER DEVELOPED A WETLAND MITIGATION SITE ON THE PROPERTY, AND SO THERE ARE THREE SUBSTANTIAL WETLANDS HERE. UM THAT ARE THE SUBJECT OF AN OHIO EPA COVENANT . A LOT OF ENVIRONMENTAL RESTRICTIONS ON WHAT CAN BE DONE ON THAT PROPERTY. BUT REALLY TONIGHT, SO THE CITY IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION WITH PHASE ONE OF THE PROJECT RIGHT NOW, PHASE ONE INCLUDES OF MOST OF THIS KIND OF PERIMETER TRAIL SYSTEM AND NETWORK. INCLUDES THIS SEGMENT OF BOARDWALK. SO IN TOTAL. IT'S ABOUT 2.5 MILES OF TRAILS THAT WE WILL HAVE OUT THERE AFTER PHASE ONE IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION. EARTH COMPLETED. WE ALSO ARE BUILDING THIS PARKING AREA RIGHT HERE AND THEN TWO NEW ENTRIES, SO IT AN ENTRY OFF DUBLIN GAMMA WROTE IN AN EXIT. WHICH I JUST SPENT AN HOUR AND 15 MINUTES OUT THERE TODAY, AND I'M STILL COLD FROM IT, BUT TRAFFIC GOES PRETTY FAST ON DUBLIN, GRANVILLE. SO WE SEPARATED THOSE ENTRY DRIVES JUST SO KIND OF HAVE FROM PEOPLG IN AND DECELERATING THAN IF YOU'RE TRYING TO GET OUT. SO THAT IS ALL UNDER CONSTRUCTION NOW, BUT WE ARE IN THE DESIGN PHASE OF PHASE TWO, WHICH WE WOULD LIKE TO HOPEFULLY GET UNDER CONSTRUCTION STILL YET BY THE END OF THIS YEAR UM SO PHASE TWO. A BIG PART. PHASE TWO FOCUSES ON THE HOMESTEAD. SO THIS WAS ESTABLISHED IN 18 42.
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YOU KNOW, WE OFFERED A TOUR OF THE FARM TO BOARD THE FARMHOUSE TO BOARDING COMMISSION MEMBERS IN JANUARY AND MR EATON CAME OUT AND WAS ABLE TO SEE THE HOUSE. IT'S A BEAUTIFUL PROPERTY IN GOOD CONDITION, ACTUALLY, FOR ITS AGE, BUT YOU KNOW, NEEDS QUITE A BIT OF WORK. UM, SO THE HOMESTEAD ITSELF. UH, THIS IS KIND OF WHAT WAS IN THIS RED AREAS THAT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT TONIGHT. WE WILL USE TYPICAL NEW ALBANY SIGNAGE. THIS PROPERTY IS DEED RESTRICTED TO BE NAMED AFTER THE TAYLOR FAMILY, SO WE'RE CALLING IT TAYLOR FARM PARK. WE'LL HAVE AN ENTRY SIDE NEAR THE HOMESTEAD, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE SOME SMALLER , UM, SIGNS ALONG THE FORCED BENCH WHERE WE HAVE UM, THAT'S PART OF PHASE TWO. THIS WILL BE A BOARDWALK CONNECTION. UM THAT WILL BISECT THIS WETLAND SELF, AND SO WE'LL HAVE SOME ENTRIES. SIGNAGE ON THE HORSE FENCE RIGHT HERE. SO YOU KNOW THAT'S KIND OF A GENEROUS ENTRYWAY INTO THE PARK WHERE PEOPLE WALKING OR RIDING THEIR BIKES. THEN THE HOMESTEAD SAID. HOMESTEAD ITSELF CONSISTS OF, UM YOU KNOW ALL THESE FUTURE IMPROVEMENTS RIGHT NOW WHAT YOU WOULD SEE OUT THERE IS NUMBER ONE, WHICH IS THE EXISTING HOUSE. YOU WOULD SEE NUMBER THREE, WHICH IS THE EXISTING CHICKEN COOP. AND WE HAVE SOME PICTURES OF THAT TO SHOW YOU LATER IN THE SLIDE DECK. WE HAVE NUMBER FIVE, WHICH IS EXISTING BARN THAT YOU CAN SEE OUT. IN THE DISTANCE OF YOUR DRIVING DOWN DUBLIN GRANVILLE ROAD. PHASE ONE WILL BUILD NUMBER EIGHT HERE. THE SIGNAGE AND THEN THIS ENTRY DRIVE RIGHT NOW, IN PHASE ONE, IT WILL JUST LOOP. UM WHAT PHASE TWO CONSISTS OF IS THE ADDITION OF COMMUNITY GARDENS, SO RELOCATING THE GARDENS THAT ARE BEHIND VILLAGE HALL HERE OUT TO TAYLOR FARM. UM ENTRY OR VEHICULAR LOOP HERE. SO IF YOU'RE DROPPING OFF YOUR VEGETABLES OR ANY MATERIALS AT YOUR GARDEN PLOT. YOU CAN PULL RIGHT UP THERE AND JUST DROP IT OFF AND THEN GO AND PARK. WE ALSO WANT TO RENOVATE THE CHICKEN COOP. ULTIMATELY WE WANT TO RENOVATE THE BARN, BUT THAT WOULD BE PART OF PHASE THREE. IF COUNSEL WOULD FUND THAT. AND THEN FINALLY, WE WANT TO BUILD A RESTAURANT BUILDING, WHICH IS NUMBER FOUR. REALLY IS THE SUBJECT OF THIS YEAR. THEY HERE TONIGHT. SO IF YOU WERE OUT THERE NOW THIS THIS IS THAT BEAUTIFUL, SUNNY DAY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NOT IN THE SUMMER, BUT IN THE FALL. UM, THIS IS THIS THING LIKE 19 TWENTIES BARRAGE THAT'S GOING TO BE, UM, DE MODE. WE HAVE DONE HISTORIC, UM, DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR KIND OF STANDARDS FOR DOCUMENTATION OF HISTORIC BUILDINGS. SO WE HAVE THAT ALL DONE. WE HAVE THAT ALL DOCUMENTED IN CASE WE EVER WANTED TO REBUILD IT OR KNOW ANY INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT IT WAS LIKE. WE HAVE THAT DOCUMENTATION. WE HAVE THE BARN IN THE BACK, WHICH IS IN PRETTY POOR CONDITION. UM AND THEN WE HAVE THE CHICKEN COOP, WHICH THE INTERESTING BACKSTORY ON THE CHICKEN COOP IS IT'S A REALLY UM , IT WAS A COMMON DESIGN THAT WAS ACTUALLY CREATED BY THE UNIVERSITY OF ILLINOIS IN THE EARLY 19 HUNDREDS AND FROM WHAT OUR HISTORIC PRESERVATIONISTS ARE TELLING US, YOU WOULD HAVE SEEN THIS ACT ACTUAL CHICKEN COOPER, THIS STYLE OF CHICKEN COOP ALL OVER THE MIDWEST, AND THERE'S NOT A LOT OF EXISTING EXAMPLES OUT THERE OF IT. SO THEY WERE PRETTY EXCITED THAT WE STILL HAD AN EXAMPLE OF THIS UNIVERSITY OF ILLINOIS DESIGN CHICKEN COAT. UH AS YOU HONE IN ON THE CHICKEN COOP, THIS IS THE SOUTH ELEVATION AGAIN AND PRETTY FOR CONDITION. UM I DON'T THINK THERE'S A WINDOW LEFT ON THE THERE'S NOT A PANE OF GLASS. LEFT ON THE STRUCTURE OF THE SIGHTING IS IN PRETTY BAD SHAPE.IT'S A KIND OF A METAL ROOF, THEIR SHEET METAL ROOF. AND I DO GO AROUND THE BUILDING. AND THESE ARE THE DIFFERENT SIDES. THERE'S SOME INTERESTING GRAFFITI. YOU CAN'T SEE IT ON THROUGHOUT THE BUILDING, BUT ESPECIALLY ON THAT SIDE. THAT'S EAST SIDE HERE. THIS IS THE WEST SIDE IT HAS. YOU KNOW, THIS DISTINCTIVE STYLE THAT WE REALLY LIKED AND HAVE HONED IN ON UM, AS WE'RE THINKING ABOUT THE FUTURE. OF THE PART. SO WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO IS RENOVATE THAT EXISTING CHICKEN COOP. TO SOME EXTENT THAT'S GOING TO BE A CONTRACTOR DECISION TO MAKE A FITS IN GOOD ENOUGH SHAPE. TO RENOVATE OR IF IT HAS TO BE, UM JUST DEMOED AND THEN BUILT AGAIN , BUT OUR INTENT WOULD BE TO KEEP THAT SAME STYLE. THEN WE WANT TO MIRROR THAT MIRROR THAT STYLE AND BUILD A NEW RESTROOM BUILDING. WE THINK IT'S PRETTY IMPORTANT TO HAVE RESTROOMS AT A PARK. WE REALLY WANT PEOPLE TO COME OUT HERE SPENT A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TIME IT WAS A LESSON LEARNED. I WOULD SAY FROM ROSE RUN, AND WE HEAR THAT A LOT THAT THERE SHOULD BE PUBLIC RESTROOMS OUT THERE. ITS LOCATION WAS DIFFERENT, AND THERE'S YOU KNOW IF THERE'S
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ACCESS TO THE LIBRARY AND HEIGHT CENTER OVER AT ROSE, RUN, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THAT SAME ACCESS OUT HERE. SO RESTROOM BUILDING IT'S PRETTY IMPORTANT. SO WE'VE MIRRORED THAT DESIGN OF THE CHICKEN COOP WITH THIS NEW RESTROOM BUILDING RENOVATED CHICKEN COOP. WE HAVE, UM, DECIDED TO REMOVE SOME OF THE WINDOWS AND REALLY HAVE MORE STORAGE SO THAT THIS WILL END UP BEING STORAGE FOR THE COMMUNITY GARDENS, SO TO HAVE MORE WALL STORAGE FOR TOOLS AND EQUIPMENT AND STUFF LIKE THAT. I DON'T THINK IT DOESN'T COME. SOMETIMES THINGS DON'T COME ACROSS WELL ON RENDERING. BUT WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING WANTED TO BRING TO YOU TONIGHT IS THE USE OF A DARK GRAY STAYED ON THESE BUILDINGS. WE'VE KIND OF GONE ROUND AND ROUND THINKING ABOUT, UM WHAT THIS SHOULD BE. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW DIFFERENT COLORS. WE EVEN TALKED ABOUT RED BARNS. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY YOU CAN'T TALK ABOUT THE RESTAURANT BUILDING AND WITHOUT TALKING ABOUT THE CHICKEN COOP OR EVENTUALLY, THE BARN IF WE WANT TO DO SOMETHING WITH IT, UM AND SO, WHERE WE LANDED WAS WE THOUGHT THAT DARK GRAY STAIN IS REMINISCENT OF WHAT'S OUT THERE NOW IT ALSO KIND OF RECEIPTS INTO THE LANDSCAPE WHERE IF YOU THINK ABOUT HAVING THREE OF THESE BE WHITE. THAT'S VERY DIFFERENT THAN THE PERCEPTION OF IT. NOW, UM BUT WHEN IT BE BAD, BUT AND THAT'S IT WOULDN'T NECESSARILY READ AS NATURAL AS IT DOES NOW. AND SO THAT KIND OF LED US TO THIS PROPOSED DARK GREEN STATE DARK GRAY, SAME FROM A LAYOUT STANDPOINT FROM, YOU KNOW, FLOOR PLAN. THIS IS JUST THE TOOL STORAGE FOR THE GARDEN. HAVE EASY ACCESS FOR GARDENERS AND HEALTHY NEW ALBANY HAVE WHATEVER THEY NEED IN THERE AND THEN THE RESTROOM BUILDING HAS TWO UNISEX TOILETS HAS A SMALL STORAGE BUILDING BECAUSE AS A CITY WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO STORE CLEANING SUPPLIES AND PAPER TOWELS AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF. AND THEN WE HAVE I DON'T THINK IT'S LIKE 11 BY CAN'T READ IT. LIKE. WHAT? ALMOST 11 BY 30. IT'S LABELED AS A COMMUNITY ROOM. WE HAVE A COUPLE, YOU KNOW SPACES FOR TABLES IN THERE. I THINK MORE THAN ANYTHING, IT WILL BE JUST IF YOU'RE OUT THERE IN THE RAIN AND YOUR GARDEN. IT'LL BE A NICE SPACE TO GET UNDERCOVER. UM AND YOU KNOW, KIND OF GET SOME SHADE IF IT'S SUNNY OUT, OR IF IT'S RAINING TO GET IT OUT OF THE ELEMENTS. SO THIS IS JUST KIND OF IF YOU WERE LOOKING FROM THE GARDEN TO THE NORTH. WHAT THESE TWO BUILDINGS WOULD LOOK LIKE WORKING TOGETHER IN CONJUNCTION . IT'S NOT IN THIS IMAGE, BUT THE FOREIGNERS CENTERED RIGHT BEHIND THIS OPENING. AND THEN AT THE REAR ELEVATION IF YOU WERE AT THE BAR AND LOOKING DOWN TOWARDS THE HOUSE THIS IS WHAT THE REAR ELEVATION WITH READ LIKE. STANDING SEAM METAL ROOF METAL ROOF IS OUT THERE NOW. UM I THINK IT'S LIKE ONE BY FOUR CEDAR, CITING THAT WE'RE PROPOSING. AND THEN THE KIND OF CLEAR STORY WINDOWS THAT ARE UP HERE. THAT ARE FROM THE DISTINCT CHICKEN DESIGN. WHAT THE SIDE ELEVATIONS LIKE. THIS IS THE GARDEN CIVILIAN SIDE AND THEN BOTH SIDES AND THEN THIS IS WHAT THE TOOL TOOL STORAGE ROOM WOULD LOOK LIKE FROM SIDE ELEVATIONS. JUST KIND OF A SECTION HERE OF WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE, UM, THE YOU KNOW, COMMUNITY ROOM AREA OPEN AREA WOULD BE HERE.THIS WOULD BE THE BACKSIDE OF THE RESTROOM BUILDING. UM, I WILL SAY THAT, UH. THINK 80% OF THE SITE IS IN FLOODPLAIN, THE 100 YEAR FLOOD PLAINS, SO WE HAVE TO GO TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO GET VARIANTS WERE SCHEDULED TO DO THAT NEXT MONDAY . WE WANTED THESE TWO APPLICATIONS TO GO TO THE BOARDS IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO ONE ANOTHER. BUT THIS NEEDS TO BE BUILT. BASICALLY TWO FT. ABOVE. WHERE THE EXISTING BUILDINGS ARE , AND THEN THOSE OTHER BUILDINGS HAVE TO BE RAISED TWO FT TO GET IT OUT OF THE FLOODPLAIN. SO THAT'LL BE A SUBJECT OF A PLANNING COMMISSION VARIANTS. UM, NEXT WEEK. JUST ANOTHER, UM, JUST. ALL THE QUESTIONS. YOU'RE RAISING YOUR CHICKEN CODE. IT'S BASICALLY THE CHICKEN COOP IS A CHICKEN COOP. WE WILL HAVE TO RAISE THE BARN TO IF WE WANT TO. DO YOU HAVE A RICH AND WE HAVE ACTUALLY HAD THE MOUNT VERNON BARN COMPANY OUT THERE. THE COMPANY THAT RENOVATED UM, THE BARN AT FRANKLIN PARK. HE DOESN'T SEEM FAZED BY RAISING THE BURN. SO IF ANYONE HAS EXPERIENCED WITH THAT IT WOULD BE HIM RIGHT OF AMISH OUT THERE . YEAH I WELL, SEE, I GUESS. OKAY. SORRY TO INTERRUPT. I THINK I THINK THAT'S IT, ACTUALLY. SO YOU'RE RIGHT ON TIME. I DON'T KNOW. I'LL JUST PUT IT ON AN IMAGE HERE AND YOU GUYS CAN ASK ANY QUESTIONS. IF I CAN'T ANSWER THEM. UM CAMP WAS, YOU KNOW ON MY TOUR AND I DID GO OUT AND HOPE MY HEAD NOT DIDN'T GO INTO MY HEAD INTO THE, UH,
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THE EXISTING GROUP DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT WAS EVER PAINTED. THERE WAS ANY EVIDENCE COULDN'T SEE ANY EVIDENCE OF ANY PAIN ON YOU KNOW IF IT WAS IT WAS A LONG TIME AGO. I MEAN, YEAH, THERE'S YEAH, THAT YOU DON'T SEE A YOU DON'T SEE ANY TRACES OF IT OUT THERE NOW AND SAME WITH THE BARN AS WELL. I MEAN, ON THE INSIDE AND THE OUT OUTSIDE. I DON'T KNOW. I MEAN, IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT WOULD YOU PAINT SOMETHING, AND THEN? NO. YOU'RE GOING TO ALWAYS HAVE THAT MAINTENANCE. SO MAYBE IT MAYBE IT JUST WASN'T PAINTINGS AND WYNDHAM. AND THE WINDOWS, I PRESUME WILL BE FIXED. FIXED, MEANING? NO NO, THAT'S EXPENSIVE, BUT THE EXISTING COUPE WINDOWS ARE GONE REPLACED WILL MATCH THE NEW CORRECT. YOU'RE TAKING OUT THE WINDOWS ON THE END. YEAH. PEOPLE WANT SPORTS. ARE WE. ARE WE? WE ARE PROVING MORE THAN THE RESTROOM BUILDING. ARE WE IMPROVING THE CHANGES TO THE CHICKEN COOP? NO JUST BE THE NEW BUILDING. YEAH YOU'RE TELLING US WHAT YOU'RE DOING, BUT YOU'RE NOT ASKING US? NO, THAT'S FINE. OKAY, LET'S GO GOOD. UM SORRY.IN THE FRONT HERE. I'M LOOKING AT THE WAY HE IS HERE. UM. SO I GUESS SO THIS ACTUALLY WHEN THOSE DOORS ARE CLOSED, THIS IS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE OPEN. THIS WILL BE THIS IS ALL OKAY? OKAY, OKAY. I'M JUST CURIOUS WITH THE RESTROOMS LOCKED AFTER HOURS, OKAY? YEAH. SO OUR PARK HOURS BY QUOTAS ARE ESSENTIALLY UNTIL DUST. THAT'S THE RIGHT ORDER. CLOSE IT DUST. UM WE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS JUST FROM A SAFETY MAJOR IS THE ENTRY WILL BE GATED WITH SOME AUTOMATIC GATE SO AT YOU KNOW, AT DUSK THE VEHICULAR ENTRIES WILL BE GATED SO PEOPLE CAN COME IN AND OUT AND THEN WE'RE LOOKING AT SOME KIND OF REMOTE ACT. WE'RE LOOKING AT OPTIONS FOR HOW WE WOULD LOST THOSE RESTAURANT BUILDINGS. DONE AT THE END OF THE DAY, SO THAT THERE'S NO HOSTILITY OF THE PEOPLE TO GET IN THERE. YOU WILL STILL BE ABLE TO WALK ON TO THE SITE THROUGH TRAIL CONNECTIONS. I MEAN, THEY ARE PREFERABLE MONITOR. WE ARE PLANNING TO WIRE IN FOR CAMERAS, SO THEY'LL HAVE AN ABILITY TO SEE WHAT'S GOING ON OUT THERE. UM, BUT WE WANT TO PUT LIKE WHATEVER MAJOR WE CAN IN PLACE TO SPIRIT FROM GOING THERE AFTER . IT LOOKS GOOD THAT'S REALLY GOOD, LIKE THE MODERN FEEL TO IT. BUT KEEPING IN THE ORDER STYLE. THE PICTURES OF THE BARN IN HERE. THAT'S THE FUTURE. YEAH, THAT'S A FUTURE. I MEAN, I THINK THE MOST LIKELY REUSED SCENARIO FOR THE BARN RIGHT NOW WOULD BE SOME SORT OF OPENS IT PAVILION PROBABLY WHERE YOU COULD SEE MAYBE BARN DOORS ON THE NORTH AND SOUTH ELEVATION SO YOU COULD GET A SIGHTLINE THROUGH IT TO THE WETLANDS BEYOND. BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE CONDITIONED SPACE. IT WOULD TAKE TOO MUCH TO BRING IT UP TO THAT LEVEL OF BUILDING, BUT I THINK YOU COULD STILL GET A NICE LIKE WESTERN PAVILION TYPE USE OUT OF IT. UM AND WE'RE HOPING THAT WOULD BE PHASE THREE. SO THE BARN ULTIMATELY WHAT HAPPENS TO THAT HISTORIC PHONE? BUT BE PART OF CASE THREE AND THE FINAL PHASES OF IMPORTANCE. DRINKING FOUNTAINS TEND TO BE AN AFTERTHOUGHT FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS WAS THAT CONSIDERATION. SO WHAT ABOUT THE YEAH, THEY'RE ALWAYS GET TACKED ON SOMEWHERE.
SO YOU MIGHT CONSIDER WORKING THAT IN YEAH. I MEAN, THAT THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY AN RV THING DOESN'T BUT I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA, BECAUSE YEAH, YOU GO AROUND AND YOUR KIDS THIRSTY AND THEN YOU THINK ABOUT IT. TRY TO GET THEM UNDERNEATH THE FAUCET. DON'T DRINK OUT OF THE TOILET, TIM, YOU KNOW? YEAH WE COULD PUT ONE IN THE WATER BOTTLES BOTTLE FILLER ABOUT WATER FOR THE GARDEN. THEY YEAH , HERE. UM, BUT WE HAVEN'T TALKED A LOT ABOUT WATER FOR HUMANS. WHAT WOULD THE FLOORING SURFACE OF THE COMMUNITY ROOM B. IF YOU WILL. I MEAN, YOU'RE
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GONNA HAVE A LOT OF RAIN, WATER AND STUFF COMING IN THERE. IT'S COVERED, BUT IT'S STILL FORCE STRUCTURE SO IT LOOKS GREAT, THOUGH. YEP. YEP. I'M EXCITED ABOUT IT. OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS. NOT ALL ENTERTAINED EMOTION. TWO SECONDS. I DON'T THINK WE HAVE A MARTIAN. WE NEED EMOTION. MAKE THE MOTION. YEAH I'M SORRY. I ENTERTAINED ONE. I'M WAITING ANXIOUSLY WAITING FOR A MOTION. HOW ABOUT IF I SAY THAT? THAT'S RIGHT. CUTE YOU JUST MADE THE MOTION NOT MADE EMOTION. I'M WAITING FOR A SECOND MOTION TO APPROVE, BUT I DON'T HAVE THE NUMBER IN FRONT OF ME TO YOU TO APPROVE APPLICATION RB. THANK YOU, 34-2023. YOU HAVE A SECOND, I'LL SECOND YEAH. MS MOORE? YES, MR DAVEY. YES. MR STROLLER? YES. MR BROWN? YES. MR EATON? YES, VOTES IN FAVOR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH WONDERFUL, GREAT LOOKING FORWARD TO INVITING YOU OUT WHEN IT'S ALL VERY EXCITED. HOW ARE THEY DOING ON THE OVERALL TIMING ON THE CURRENT PHASE? SO WE'VE RUN INTO SOME? WE HAVE SOME BRACKETS THAT ARE LIKE TAKING 12 WEEKS TO SHOW UP BRACKETS FOR THE HANDRAILS ON THE BOARDWALK. SO IT'S LIKE A PROJECT RIGHT NOW. IT'S JUST HERE YOU'RE WORKING ON. YEAH TRYING TO GET MATERIALS SO THAT WE CAN GET FINISHED. I MEAN, ARTICLE AND I THINK WE'RE STILL THE BOARDWALKS ARE WHAT? BEING A LITTLE BIT PROBLEMATIC RIGHT DOWN THE TRAILS THE ASPHALT TRAILS. REALLY ARE GRADED. UM THEY NEED SOME OF THEM ALREADY HAVE STONE. UM AND IT'S JUST WAITING FOR THE PLANTS TO OPEN. THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT. YEP. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.[VI. Other business]
AWESOME. THANKS. WELL, I THINK WE MOVED TO OTHER BUSINESS CITY PROJECT UPDATE. MARKET STREET EXTENSION IF I SAW COUNCIL TO ADOPT WITH POLICE, SO WHAT WE LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING ABOUT THAT? YES SO JUST THIS IS ANOTHER EXCITING CITY PROJECT. THAT'S UPCOMING AS WE WANT TO GIVE YOU GUYS A PREVIEW OF SOME OTHER WILL BE CITY APPLICATIONS , BUT I'M GONNA PROVIDE YOUR QUICK BACKGROUNDS ON THOSE APPLICATIONS. SO THE CITY IS PROGRESSING WITH THE DESIGN OF THE MARKET STREET EXTENSION, SO TRAFFIC IN THE VILLAGE CENTER HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED AS A CRITICAL COMPONENT FACTOR FOR THE VILLAGE CENTERS. DEVELOPMENTS EVER SINCE. REALLY 2006 WHEN WE DID OUR FIRST VILLAGE CENTER PLAN, AND WHEN WE DID OUR LAST STRATEGIC PLAN UPDATES AND LIKE 19 4020. WE FOCUSED IN ON TRAFFIC THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE VILLAGE CENTER OR THROUGH THE WHOLE CITY, AND ESPECIALLY THE VILLAGE CENTER. SO THIS IS OUR OVERALL THOROUGHFARE PLANE THAT SHOWS EXISTING AND RECOMMENDED FUTURE ROADWAYS. AND SO WHERE CITY STAFF SINCE THAT TIME HAS BEEN WORKING ON AS PART OF THE ROSARY INTO DEVELOPMENT, AS WELL AS THE EXTENSION OF MARKET STREET UP TO THIRD. AND SO WHAT THE YOU KNOW, EVERY STRATEGIC PLAN HAS FOR THESE BIG OUTCOME. AH HA'S AND WHAT WE LEARNED FROM THE ENGAGEMENT ALBANY PLAN FROM A FEW YEARS AGO AS THAT 43% OF ALL TRAFFIC IN NEW ALBANY IS THROUGH TRAFFIC, AND SO AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, THAT'S 43. YOU KNOW, ON ALL THE ROADS, YOU KNOW A LOT OF THAT'S ON 1 61. BUT A FAIR AMOUNT OF THAT IS ON 605, THAT'S HIGH STREET IN THE VILLAGE CENTER, AND ANOTHER LARGE PORTION OF THAT IS STATE ROUTE 62, WHICH BECOMES MAIN STREET THROUGH THE VILLAGE CENTER, AND YOU KNOW, WE IDENTIFIED AT THE TIME THAT HIGH STREET AND MAIN STREET WAS REALLY SORT OF LIKE THE BOW TIE WHERE YOU KNOW ALL ROADS LEAD TO THE VILLAGE CENTER, WHICH IS GREAT, BUT IT'S ALSO LEAD TO CONGESTION ISSUE AT HIGH IN MAIN STREET, DUE TO, UM JUST A FEW NUMBER OF ROADS THAT CONNECT THROUGH THERE, AND SO WE DID SOME ADDITIONAL MODELING WITH MORE OBSCENE OUR ENGINEERS A FEW YEARS AGO AND WENT THROUGH SEVERAL, I GUESS. DEVELOPMENT SCENARIOS AND CONNECTION SCENARIOS. AND WHAT WE FOUND IS THAT PROVIDING THIS CONNECTION FROM MARKET TO THIRD RESULTED IN MEANINGFUL AND SIGNIFICANT BENEFICIAL IMPACTS TO THE OVERALL STREET NETWORK, NOT ONLY IN THE CITY BUT ESPECIALLY IN THE VILLAGE CENTER. AND SO THAT WAS JUST A HUGE BREAKTHROUGH FOR US TO FIND A WAY TO REALLY LESSEN TRAFFIC. AND THE IDEA IS THAT YOU KNOW ALL BOTH LOCAL AND[00:50:03]
THROUGH. TRAFFIC IS COMING THROUGH 62 FOR THE MOST PART, AND SO WHAT THIS WOULD PROVIDE IS ADDITIONAL CONNECTIVITY THROUGH THE VILLAGE CENTER TO ALLOW THROUGH TRAFFIC TO GO ONE DIRECTION THROUGH THIRD AND THEN TO 62 ALLOW FOR LOCAL TRAFFIC TO GO TO THE VILLAGE CENTER, SO BOTH HISTORIC VILLAGE CENTER IN THE MARKET AND MAIN STREET AREA , AND SO WHAT THAT WOULD ALSO ACCOMPLISH. THIS IS A LITTLE CLOSER DIAGRAM THAT WE DREW UP AT THE TIME FROM A FEW YEARS AGO IS YOU KNOW THAT WOULD ALLOW US AS A CITY AND OUR DEVELOPERS TO ACCOMPLISH OUR OVERALL GOAL TO PROVIDE MORE BUT NARROWER STREETS THAT ARE PEDESTRIAN FOCUS THROUGHOUT THE VILLAGE CENTER, SO ON MARKET IN MAINE IN THE HISTORIC CORE. ADDITIONALLY ADDING ADDITIONAL STREETS IS ONE OF OUR KEY PRINCIPLES AND I GUESS FUNDAMENTALS FROM A PLANNING STANDPOINT, SO OUR GOALS ARE ALWAYS TO INCREASE ROADS AND CONNECTIVITY IN ORDER TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF ROADWAYS, AND THAT'S ESPECIALLY TRUE IN THE VILLAGE CENTER HERE , SO WE'VE BEEN ADVANCING THE DESIGN AND THE ALIGNMENT OF THE MARKET STREET EXTENSION FROM 605 OR SOUTH HIGH STREETS. ALL THE WAY UP THROUGH US 62 MAIN STREET UP HERE. AND SO WHAT WE HAVE IDENTIFIED IS SOME ADDITIONAL CHANGES THAT WILL NEED TO OCCUR TO PRIVATE PROPERTY BECAUSE OF THIS BECAUSE OF THIS PUBLIC STREETS, UM, CAPITAL WORKS PROJECT AND FOR THE VILLAGE CENTER, AND SO CHRIS REAL QUICK WILL GIVE YOU A PREVIEW OF WHAT THOSE APPLICATIONS ARE. THANK YOU, EVERYBODY. AS STEVE MENTIONED THAT THERE WILL BE AN APPLICATION BEFORE YOU GUYS PROBABLY THE NEXT FEW MONTHS DEALING WITH SOME IMPACTS OF THIS ROAD ON SOME PRIVATE PROPERTY. JUST GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF CONTEXT. THE PLAN ITSELF FOR THE ROAD EXTENSION RECEIVED JUST TALKED ABOUT IS ACTUALLY NOT UNDER THE PURVIEW OF THE AIR B. THAT'S GOING TO BE HEARD BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION ACTUALLY NEXT WEEK, BUT THERE WILL AS I MENTIONED THE IMPACT OF PRIVATE PROPERTY. SO IN ORDER FOR THIS, UH, THIS BYPASS THIS MARKET STREET EXTENSION TO FUNCTION PROPERLY, JUST DISPERSED TRAFFIC AWAY FROM THE U. S 62 HIGH STREET INTERSECTION, YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TO REDESIGN THE THIRD STREET AND MAIN STREET INTERSECTION ITSELF. SO THIS IS THE THIRD STREET HERE. IT'S HARD TO SEE THIS IS THE UNITED METHODIST CHURCH PARKING LOT. THIS IS THE EYE DOCTOR AND THIS IS THE THIS PROPERTY IS OWNED BY THE NEW ALBANY COMPANY IS WHERE THE PRESTIGE DRIVING ACADEMY BUILDING IS. SO AS IT'S CURRENTLY PROPOSED, THIS IS STILL BEING WORKED THROUGH AND DESIGN. WE WILL HAVE TO REALIGN THIS INTERSECTION WITH THIRD STREET AND OUR THIRD STREET AND MAIN STREET HERE. SO THAT MAIN STREET NOW THE THROUGH MOTION THROUGH THE VILLAGE CENTER BECOMES USING THIS THIRD STREET MARKET STREET EXTENSION AND GOING SOUTH. AND THEN DOWN THROUGH WHAT IS NOW THE ESTATE PROPERTY AND OVER TO THE EXISTING MARKET STREET AT SIX AND FIVE. SO THERE ARE A COUPLE OF OCCASIONS I'LL LET YOU LOOK AT THIS FOR A SECOND PERCENT.IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO KIND OF TAKE IN, BUT THERE ARE A FEW IMPLICATIONS. AH, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO ASK PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS TO ACCOMMODATE US OR MAKE THIS HAPPEN. SO THE FIRST INSTANCE IS GOING BACK AND FORTH A LITTLE BIT. UM THE PARKING LOT FOR THE METHODIST CHURCH HERE, ABOUTS RIGHT UP AGAINST THIRD STREET AND ALSO RIGHT UP AGAINST MAIN STREET. SO IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE OUR PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS, BLACK SHIFT TO REMOVE A LOT OF THAT PARKING AND GET RIGHT AWAY FROM THE CHURCH. AND ALSO WE WILL RELOCATE THAT PARKING TOWARDS THE BACK OF THE SITE HERE. THIS WILL ALSO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL PARKING FOR THE EYE DOCTOR HERE. AND THE NEW ALBANY COMPANY BUILDINGS WERE PRESTIGE DRIVING ACADEMY WILL ACTUALLY BE DEMOLISHED. DR BIOLOGY PUT IN RIGHT HERE. A LOT OF YOUR PARKING OF THE SITE AS WELL. SO WE WILL LIKE I MENTIONED THE ACTUAL ROAD ITSELF IS NOT SET UP TO THE AIR. THE APPROVAL BUT THE APPLICATIONS TO THESE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS WILL COME BEFORE. UH AIR B AND THE CITY WILL BE THE APPLICANT.
NOT THESE PRIVATE PROPERTY. NURSES WERE ASKING TO MAKE THESE ACCOMMODATIONS. THE CITY OWNED THAT ADDITIONAL PARKING LOT. WE WON THE HAT BIRTHDAY. I DON'T WANT TO BE HERE. YOU NO, WE WILL NOT. BUT THERE WILL BE SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH ALL THESE PROPERTY OWNERS OF THE CHURCH, NOT BE COMPANY AND THE EYE DOCTOR TO ACCOMMODATE SO WILL BE A SERIES OF AGREEMENTS BETWEEN ALL THOSE THROUGH PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS TO ALLOW FOR PARKING AND CROSS ACCESS BETWEEN THOSE PROPERTIES AND SO THAT'S SOME OF THE KIND OF DOCUMENT THAT AND WE'VE CONCEPT. EVERYONE AGREES AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THEM IN THESE DRAWINGS. UM BUT WE NEED TO DRAFT THOSE AGREEMENTS AND MAKE SURE EVERYONE SIGNED SO WE'RE TRYING TO DO THAT WORK AT THE SAME TIME
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OR ADVANCING THE DRAWINGS TO BRING TO YOU AND, YOU KNOW, ULTIMATELY. THE CITY HAS THE RIGHT TO BE DOWN. NOT THAT IT WANTS TO. THAT'S RIGHT. WE'D RATHER WORK IN PARTNERSHIP.RIGHT? WAY TO GO, OKAY? AGAIN. JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU GUYS AN UPDATE. THAT'S MAYBE MAYBE TWO OR THREE MONTHS DOWN THE ROAD. GREAT GREAT IMPROVEMENT. YEAH. ALRIGHT AND LAST, BUT NOT LEAST WE HAVE OUR ANNUAL ORGANIZATIONAL MEETING WE GET TO YOU DON'T I GUESS WE ALREADY SWORE IN ADAM, BUT WE NEED TO ELECT OUR CHAIRPERSON, VICE CHAIR AND SECRETARY OF SELFISH TIMES. AND THEN OUR LAW DIRECTOR BEN ULBRICHT IS HERE TO PROVIDE JUST SORT OF AN UPDATE REFRESHER ON BEST PRACTICES FOR BOARDING COMMISSION MEMBERS. UM SO I GUESS WE NEED WE HAVE AND WHAT WE NEED TO ELECT OUR CHAIRPERSON WOULD NOT RENOMINATE. UM MISTER HINSON TO SERVE. HE'S HE HAS SERVED WITH APLOMB EVER SINCE THE DEPARTURE OF OUR DEAR AND BELOVED CHAIRMAN, MR COSTANTINO , SO I WOULD NOMINATE MR VINCENT. I'LL SECOND THAT. DO WE VOTE? LET'S VOTE FOR EACH ONE.
EACH ONE WOULD BE MY PROPOSAL, OKAY? MR EATON. YES. MR STROLLER? YES. MR BROWN? YES. MR DAVEY? YES. MORE? YES. I HAVE FIVE VOTES IN FAVOR. WE NEED ADVICE CHAIRPERSON, WHICH TO LIKE TO NOMINATE MR JOHN KNIGHTON TO CONTINUE IN THAT POSITION, AS HE HAS DONE SO.
WELL IN HIS TIME HERE. THANK YOU. MR BROWN. IS THERE A SECOND? MOTION FOR A SECOND. MR BROWN? YES MISS MORE. YES, MR STROLLER. MR DAVEY? YES, YES. FIVE VOTES IN FAVOR. I WOULDN'T PROPOSE TO. I WOULD NOMINATE MR BROWN, WHO HAS SERVED ABLY AS OUR SECRETARY AND GIVEN MUCH OF HIS TIME IN THAT THAT POSITION, SO THAT'S MY NOMINATION. I'LL SECOND THAT. I WAS GOING TO NOMINATE MALLETS JUST BECAUSE HE WASN'T. BUT THAT'S GREAT. ALL CERTAINLY CONTINUE. MR EATON, TRAWLER. MISS MORE, MR. DAVEY. MR. BROWN? YES. FIVE VOTES IN FAVOR. AND OF COURSE, WE'VE TRADITIONALLY MET ON THE SECOND MONDAY OF EACH MONTH AT SEVEN PM AT CITY COUNCIL BUILDING CITY HALL, WHICH I THINK IS PROVEN TO BE A DELIGHTFUL TIME NOTWITHSTANDING MY THOUGHT OF BEING VERY UNCTUOUS AND SAYING 7 22. SO I WOULD I WOULD PROPOSE THAT WE CONTINUE WITH OUR EXISTING TIME PLACE. AND LOCATION. THE SECOND PATH. MR EATON? YES, MR BROWN. MR. DAVEY YES, MISS MORE? YES, MR STROLLER? YES. FIVE VOTES IN FAVOR. IS THAT IT? TAKE IT AWAY
[VII. Poll members for comment]
. OKAY UM, I'M BEN. I'M THE LAW DIRECTOR, STEVE SAID WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT A FEW THINGS. DOES ANYBODY NEED A BREAK? I'M JUST JOKING. GO THAT LONG, SO UM, WITH THAT BEING SAID, THERE'S A COUPLE OF ISSUES THAT WE DO WANT TO TALK. ABOUT FIRST, IT'S NOTED ON THE AGENDA IS THE INTENDANT REQUIREMENT. PLEASE KNOW THAT THERE HAS BEEN A CHANGE WITH RESPECT TO WHAT THE ATTENDANCE EXPECTATIONS ARE GENERALLY SPEAKING, YOUR YOUR THREE CONSECUTIVE ABSENCES BY ANY MEMBER OF WAR ABSENCES IN A YEAR YOU CAN BE REMOVED. SO JUST BE COGNIZANT OF THAT AS WE GO THROUGH. THE MEETINGS IN 2023 SO BE AWARE OF THAT IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABSENT, NOTIFY SOMEONE AND, UH KEEP TRACK OF ALL THOSE GOOD THINGS. BUT SECONDLY AND PERHAPS, I GUESS MORE IMPORTANTLY IS I JUST WANT TO TAKE A FEW MINUTES TO DO A REFRESHER ON ELECTRONIC COMMUNICATIONS. AH, THERE'S IT'S BECOMING A BIGGER ISSUE COMMUNICATIONS ELECTRONICALLY WHERE BOARDS AND COMMISSION MEMBERS ARE COMMUNICATING ELECTRONICALLY, AND WE WOULD JUST ALWAYS WANT TO BE MINDFUL FOR OBLIGATIONS UNDER THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT. SO WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND AND REMEMBER THAT ANY TIME WE'RE DELIBERATING ON THE MATTER, TALKING ABOUT A MATTER DISCUSSING A MATTER THAT MAY BE APPEARING BEFORE YOU IT SOME POINT AH, THOSE DISCUSSIONS AND DELIBERATIONS SHOULD OCCUR WITHIN SUNSHINE. UH OPEN FOR EVERYBODY TO HEAR IN PARTICIPATE IN SO DON'T GET INVOLVED WITH DISCUSSIONS VIA EMAIL, TEXT, VIDEO CONFERENCING, SOCIAL MEDIA OR ANYTHING ALONG THOSE LINES BECAUSE THAT COULD RUN AFOUL OF THE OPEN MEETINGS. ACT REQUIREMENTS. UH ALSO, IF YOU HAVE A SPECIFIC ISSUE OR A SPECIFIC QUESTION, RATHER THAN[01:00:04]
ASK YOUR FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS OR COMMISSION MEMBERS ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON, REACH OUT THE STAFF.THAT'S THE EASIEST WAY TO RESOLVE THAT ISSUE AND AVOID ANY KIND OF PUBLIC DELIBERATION IS EUROPA MEETINGS VIOLATION. AH, ALSO BE COGNIZANT OF THE REPLY. ALL FUNCTION. IF YOU HAVE A SPECIFIC ISSUE AGAIN, JUST FOCUS AT DIRECTLY TO STAFF OR SOMEBODY MAKING. ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS, AS OPPOSED TO HITTING REPLY ALL BUTTON, BUT THAT ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT KEEPS BECOMING A BIGGER ISSUE ARE ALL THESE ELECTRONIC COMMUNICATIONS. SO JUST BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU'RE COMMUNICATING AMONGST YOURSELVES. ELEKTRONIK LEE, CAN I POSE A QUESTION JUST TO MAKE SURE I'M IN MY NINTH YEAR SINCE MY RETIREMENT, UM CLASSICALLY TO TRIGGER THE OPEN MEETINGS. THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT YOU NEEDED THE MAJORITY OF A MAJORITY OF THE PUBLIC BODY, SO THIS WOULD BE THE PUBLIC PARTY. CORRECT THEREFORE WE HAVE SEVEN EXISTING MEMBERS, THEREFORE, WOULD BE FOUR DISGUSTING. SO I THINK, IS THERE BEEN ANY CHANGE OF THAT? OR IS A CITY MADE ANY CHANGE OF THAT? NO 111 CAN CONTINUE TO HAVE A ONE ON ONE CONVERSATION ON THE ON THE BUSINESS OF THE PUBLIC PARTY WITHOUT TRIGGERING IT. IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT, BUT I WOULD STILL BE BE CAREFUL ABOUT HAVING TOO MUCH DELIBERATION. UNDERSTAND YEAH. OPEN MEETING. THE DEFINITION OF OPEN MEETING IS WHEN YOU'VE GOT THE QUORUM OF A PREARRANGED MEETING TO DISCUSS MATTERS SO ONCE THAT'S THAT'S ONE OF THE APPLIES IN THE SAME THING. SAME RULES STILL APPLY. UM AS BEFORE COVID. NOW ALL MEETINGS HAVE TO BE IN PERSON AND ALL THOSE DIFFERENT THINGS, BUT AGAIN, JUST BE VERY CAREFUL WITH THE DELIBERATION COMPONENT GOING FORWARD AND DELIBERATION. OF COURSE, IF AGAIN IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN DELIBERATION, IS DISCUSSING THE DECISION PROCESS VERSUS FACT FINDING. COULD INVOLVE BACK FINDING. UM BUT IT'S CERTAINLY DISCUSSING DELIBERATING THE MATTER BEFORE YOU COULD THINK THERE WAS A CINCINNATI CASE WHERE THE BOARD IS GETTING INFORMATIONAL MEETINGS, AND THEY WERE SIMPLY LISTENING. THAT'S THAT WAS NOT THAT THAT'S DIFFERENT. YEAH SO IT WAS JUST ONE OF THOSE SITUATIONS WHERE YOUR APPEARING EVEN IF YOU'RE APPEARING AS A GROUP, AND YOU'RE JUST TO GET INFORMATION ABOUT A MATTER THAT WOULD BE SEPARATE, AND APART FROM THE OPEN MEETINGS, SO WE ALL CAN GO TOUR. THE TAYLOR TAYLOR. EXACTLY EXACTLY. IT'S WHEN YOU'RE COMPUTING FACIAL, BUT WE DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT DECISION WHILE WE'RE THERE. EXACTLY RIGHT. THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT. THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.
GREAT SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU MAKE SURE THAT I'M I'M NOT MISSING SOMETHING. WHEN I RETIRED. I WALKED AWAY FROM THE WALLS. NO, NO, THAT'S THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT. IF YOU'RE THERE COLLECTIVELY AND YOU'RE JUST AN INFORMATIONAL SESSION THAT DOESN'T RESORT IN THE OPEN MEETINGS ISSUE, RIGHT? STEVE. ANYTHING ELSE? YOU WANT ME TO COVER THAT COVER? PREGNANT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I MEAN IT. YEAH. I MEAN, MY GENERAL. FEAR IS THE PEOPLE THEN GOING OFF ON EMAIL RAMPAGE AND THEN YOU GET YOURSELF IN A LOT OF PROBLEMS. YEP THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT FOR A FABULOUS. ANY OTHER MATTERS FOR THE GOOD OF THE ORDER TONIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING. ADRIAN, THAT'S ALWAYS POLITE. AND SEE HER VERY NICE TO MEET YOU. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. ADAM WE'RE DELIGHTED PEDRO HADN'T JOINED THE WORDS. WE ALREADY FOR YOU, RIGHT? YEAH WHAT WAS THAT PRIVATELY PHOTOGRAPHS. I MEAN, I THINK THERE WERE THERE WAS FILM. UM SO I DIDN'T GET THAT. DID YOU GET THAT? SO I JUST WANT TO MEETING UM SO WE'LL WE'LL WAIT TILL YOU KNOW THE ALRIGHT SO I HAVE A MOTION FOR ADJOURNMENT. FILM MOVED THERE A SECOND. SECOND ALL RIGHT. WHO IS THE SECOND THERE? WE'LL GIVE IT TO MR STROLLER STROLLER. MR BROWN? YES MR STROLLER? YES, MR DAVEY? YES, MR EATON. THANK YOU VERY MUCH
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