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I THINK WE ARE GOOD TO GET STARTED. IF YOU ARE ALRIGHT, WELL, WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND CALL THINGS TO ORDER HERE. AND WE'LL GO AHEAD AND ASK FOR WILL CALL FOR THE ATTENDANCE. THANK YOU. YOU COULD JUST KEEP YOUR MICROPHONE TURNED ON AND SPEAK DIRECTLY INTO IT FOR THE PUBLIC RECORD. MR BONEY. HERE. MR BRUBAKER HERE. MR CHAPPELLE EAR. MR GUPTA. MISTER HARPER HERE. MR HERSKOWITZ. HERE. MR PAUL HERE. MR SELLERS HERE, MR SMITHERS HERE. EIGHT MEMBERS PRESENT WE HAVE A QUORUM. OKAY SO THE NEXT THING WE'RE GOING TO DO AND JUST RECAP, WE'RE GOING TO SAY OUR
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NAMES AS WE MAKE OUR MOTION SO WE CAN GET THAT INTO THE RECORD AND WE NEED TO GET A MOTION FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF THE PREVIOUS MEETING. UH J. HERSKOWITZ I MOTION THAT WE REMOVED THAT WE APPROVE OF LAST MONTH'S MEETING MINUTES. AND SECOND SELLERS SECONDS. THANK YOU. MR HERSKOWITZ. YES MR SELLERS? YES MR SMITHERS? YES. MR BONEY? YES MR BRUBAKER? YES CLEAR. YES, MR HARPER. YES? MR PAUL ABSTAIN SINCE I WASN'T HERE. I HAVE SEVEN VOTES IN FAVOR AND ONE ABSTENTION THE MINUTES FANTASTIC. OKAY SO WE'RE JUST ABOUT READY? IS THERE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC HERE TODAY ? OKAY. VERY GOOD DEAL. HMM WELL, HERE, HERE'S WHAT WE MAY BREAK SLIGHTLY FROM THE AGENDA. UM WHAT WE THOUGHT WE NEED TO SWEAR EVERYONE IN ITS WHAT? WE'RE UNDERSTANDING. SO INSTEAD OF DOING IT AS WE GO ALONG, I'D LIKE TO MAYBE JUST ASK EVERYONE TO WHO'S GOING TO BE SPEAKING THIS EVENING TO COME FORWARD. AND WHAT WILL SWEAR YOU IN ALL AT ONCE? SO THESE SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH, SO HELP ME GOD. OKAY FANTASTIC. SO WE WAVED THE WAND OVER AND IT'S DONE JUST LIKE THAT. OKAY SO NOW[V. New Business]
WE WANT TO GO AHEAD AND GET INTO THE I DON'T THINK WE HAD ANY OLD BUSINESS ASIDE FROM THE ITEMS THAT WERE CARRYING FORWARD TO THIS MEETING, SO THE FIRST CASES . Z 22 92 CV 22 1 41 51 42 CENTRAL COLLEGE ROAD, SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND HAVE THE PRESENTATIONAL MAN. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THIS SITE CONSISTS OF THREE PARCELS, WHICH TOTAL AND APPROXIMATE 9.98 PLUS OR MINUS ACRES IN AREA. TWO OF THE PARCELS ARE CURRENTLY UNDERGOING ANNEXATION FROM PLAIN TOWNSHIP TO THE CITY OF COLUMBUS. THE PORTION OF THE SITE ALREADY WITHIN THE CITY OF COLUMBUS IS CURRENTLY ZONED RURAL RESIDENTIAL AND IS OCCUPIED BY SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE. THIS DEVELOPMENT IS PROPOSED TO BE A SISTER DEVELOPMENT OF THE FENIMORE APARTMENTS WHOSE FIRST PHASE WAS NOT REVIEWED BY THE R F B A. I'M ACROSS CENTRAL COLLEGE ROAD TO THE SOUTHEAST SITE IS BORDERED ON THE NORTH AND WEST BY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT ZONE NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER IMMEDIATELY. ADJACENT USES ARE GENERALLY A MIX OF SINGLE AND TWO FAMILY RESIDENTIAL UNITS. TWO OF THE FENNIMORE APARTMENT COMPLEX WAS REVIEWED AND RECOMMENDED BY THE ARE FDA PANEL IN AUGUST OF 2022 , WHERE THE APPLICANT COMMITTED TO ADDING STREET TREES ALONG CENTRAL COLLEGE AND HAMILTON'S ROADS, ADDITIONAL SIDEWALK CONNECTIONS TO PHASE ONE AND COMMITMENT TO PRESERVATION OF THE STREAM CORRIDOR PROTECTION ZONE ON SITE. THE APPLICANT PROPOSES DEVELOPMENT OF THE SITE WITH 216 DWELLING UNITS. UM AND IS COMMITTED TO DESIGN STANDARDS SET FORTH BY THE R F B A. UM THE ROCKY FORD BLACK LOOK. ACCORD DESIGNATES THE SITE AS WEST VILLAGE NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER. UM THE COURT DESIGNATE CENTRAL COLLEGE ROAD IS THE NATURAL RURAL CORRIDOR. HOWEVER THE SITE IS ALSO NEAR HAMBLETON ROAD, WHERE DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS HAVE GROWN TO INCLUDE A MIX OF USES, INCLUDING COMMERCIAL, MULTI FAMILY AND CONDOMINIUMS. THE PROPOSAL IS WITHIN AN AREA THAT RECOMMENDS A MAXIMUM DENSITY OF FIVE UNITS PER ACRE PROPOSAL EXCEEDS THIS RECOMMENDATION, COMMITTING TO A MAXIMUM DENSITY OF 21.24 UNITS PER ACRE.ALTHOUGH HIGHER THIS DENSITY IS COMPARABLE TO OTHER MULTI FAMILY DEVELOPMENTS IN THE AREA, INCLUDING THE RAVINES AT ROCKY RIDGE, ANDREW RESERVE. AN ALBANY CORNERS. STAFF FUNDS PROPOSAL
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PROPOSED USES TO BE APPROPRIATE BASED ON LOCATION AND SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS ALONG CENTRAL COLLEGE ROAD, HOWEVER, MAINTAIN THE CHARACTER OF SYNDROME, COLLEGE ROAD AND PRESERVATION OF NATURAL RESOURCES ARE KEY ISSUES FOR THIS PARCEL, REGARDLESS OF THE DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL. UM, STAFF NOTE THE SITE DESIGNED TO BE GENERALLY APPROPRIATE, BUT REQUEST THE APPLICANT EXPLORE OPPORTUNITIES TO ACTIVATE THE OPEN SPACE. UM, ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF NORTHWEST PORTION OF THE SITE TO INCLUDE WALKING PATHS, SEATING IN ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING. TO ACTIVATE THIS PROPOSED GREEN SPACE. STAFF CONTINUED TO NOTE THE ABSENCE OF BICYCLE PARKING. IN THE PROPOSAL STAFF REQUEST THE APPLICANT ELIMINATE THE EIGHT PARKING SPACES. TO THE EAST OF BUILDING ONE TO ACCOMMODATE BICYCLE PARKING, UM, WHICH IS REQUIRED BY CITY OF COLUMBUS CODE. AND INCREASE THE LANDSCAPING AT THE ENTRANCE TO THE SITE AS WELL.SINCE THE CONCEPTUAL REVIEW IN JANUARY. THE APPLICANT HAS MADE THE FOLLOWING REVISIONS TO THEIR SITE PLAN. SINCE THE REMOVAL OF ONE GARAGE ALONG THE WEST PROPERTY LINE NEAR THE ADJACENT POND. THE ADDITION OF A SIX FT. WHITE VINYL PRIVACY FENCE GOING FROM THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF THE GARAGE ALONG THE PARKING AREA THAN JOGGING TO THE EAST AND CONTINUING NORTH TO A POINT, UM, THAT THEY AGREED ON WITH THE H O A ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE SITE AT THE FENCE TRANSITION CONTINUING NORTH. THEY ALSO SHOW THE FENCE ALONG THE NORTH PROPERTY LINE, STARTING AT THE EXISTING CELL TOWER. BECAUSE I CAN SHOW YOU HERE AT THE EXISTING CELL TOWER.
CONTINUING WEST BEHIND THE PROPOSED GARAGE BUILDINGS ENDING AT APPOINTMENT ALSO AGREED ON WITH THE H O A ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE SITE HAVE TO FENCE TRANSITION CONTINUING WEST. AND LANDSCAPE DETAIL HAS BEEN INCLUDED THE DETAILS SHOW SPACING, AND THEY CLARIFY THAT DECIDUOUS TREES OF AT LEAST 2.5 INCH DIAMETER AND EVERGREENS OF AT LEAST SIX FT IN HEIGHT WILL BE INSTALLED ON THE ADDITION OF GRAVEL OF A GRAVEL ACCESS DRIVE THAT ENTERS THE SITE ALONG CENTRAL COLLEGE AND EXTENDS NORTH ALONG THE CELL TOWER.
GIVEN THE EMERGING MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS IN THE AREA SAT BEHIND THE PROPOSAL TO BE INAPPROPRIATE LAND USE FOR THE SITE, ALTHOUGH PRESENTED AT A HIGHER DENSITY THAN THE ACCORD RECOMMENDATION STAFF RECOGNIZE IT IS A COMPARABLE IT IS COMPARABLE TO NEIGHBOR NEIGHBORING MULTI FAMILY DEVELOPMENTS AND BELIEVE IT ALIGNS WITH THE EXISTING CHARACTER OF THE AREA. THE PROPOSAL WAS CONSIDERED FOR CONCEPTUAL REVIEW AT THE JANUARY MEETING PANEL IN COMMUNITY COMMENTS SURROUNDING PRIVACY, TRAFFIC, SANITATION AND PRESERVATION OF NATURAL RESOURCES WERE NOTED THE APPLICANT HAS TAKEN STEPS TO ADDRESS THIS FEEDBACK IN THEIR REVISED PLAN. IT IS THE OPINION OF STAFF AND THAT FOR REASONS OF DENSITY APPROPRIATE TO THE AREAS EMERGING EMERGING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN, THE APPLICANTS RESPONSIVENESS TO THE PANEL AND STAFFS FEEDBACK WITH SITE REVISIONS IN A SITE DESIGN THAT GENERALLY ADHERES TO THE SPIRIT OF THE ACCORD. THIS PROPOSAL IS RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL WITH THE CONDITION, INCLUDING INCLUDING BICYCLE PARKING ON THE SITE. OH ONE QUICK, QUICK CLARIFICATION. I BELIEVE I GOT AN EMAIL EARLIER. UM I JUST WANTED TO SINCE THE FIRST MEETING THEY HAVE THE APPLICANTS HAVE MET WITH THE H O A. AND SOME OF THE RESIDENTS. I BELIEVE TWICE BEFORE THIS MEETING HAS HAPPENED. UM AND ONE OF THE OTHER UH, REVISIONS THAT I WANTED TO NOTE WAS THAT I BELIEVE THEY REARRANGED THE FLOOR PLAN ON SOME OF THE UNITS SO THAT THERE ARE NO LONGER WINDOWS ON WELL FOR BUILDING SIX ON THE WEST SIDE OF THAT BUILDING AND ON THE NORTH SIDE OF BUILDING FIVE IF I'M UNDERSTANDING CORRECTLY, IS THAT CORRECT? OKAY OKAY. THAT'S ALL I HAVE FANTASTIC. GREAT POWER POINT, BY THE WAY, THANK YOU.
LOTS OF ADDITIONAL CLARITY. SO I'LL GIVE YOU HIGH MARKS FOR THAT, SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND HAVE THE APPLICANT COME FORWARD. THANK YOU, MR CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE COURT MIKE SHANNON WITH DAVID RUMOR HERE ON BEHALF OF THE ROBERT WYLER COMPANY. ALL THE CREDIT GOES TO MY CLIENT.
MET ON TWO OCCASIONS WITH THE A PURSUANT TO ONE OF THE REQUESTED ONE OF THE MEMBERS. YOU MIGHT REMEMBER. ABSOLUTELY SO. I DIDN'T ATTEND EITHER ONE. AND GUESS WHAT? THINGS LIKE THAT, UM STAFFING JOB PRESENTING IT THE BOTTOM LINE WAS. WE'RE GOING TO IMPACT IN THOSE THAT ARE CONTIGUOUS. SOMEONE TO ACCENT THE NORTH AND WEST. HAVE SPECIFIC CONCERNS ARE THEY
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AGREED HAVE A RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THE NEIGHBORS CAME UP WITH. PART OF THE AREA WILL BE FENCED WITH THE WHITE VINYL FENCING. TO PRESERVE THE EXISTING TREES EXTENT POSSIBLE. AND ALSO AN AGGRESSIVE LANDSCAPE PLANNING COMMITTEE. WE ELIMINATED ONE OF THE GARAGES THAT WAS PROBABLY LEFT HAND CORNER. WHICH WILL GIVE US SOUTHWEST. GOT TO GET UP AND LANDSCAPING THERE. PRIVACY FENCE. AND THAT WAS A REQUIREMENT BECAUSE IT'S NOT ON THEIR SATURDAY. THE TRAIL. UM, ALSO, IT'S DAVID GOT INTO THE NITTY GRITTY AND ACTUALLY CHANGE SOME FLOOR PLANS ACCOMMODATED REQUEST THAT YOU KNOW YOU'VE HEARD IT BEFORE THAT THEY DON'T WANT PEOPLE LOOKING AFTER WINDOWS. EVEN THOUGH THE LINE OF SIGHT OF EXTRACTION SAMPSON FRIEDRICH BLAH. WE AGREED TO DO THAT. UM MR PAUL, YOU HAD A QUESTION I FOLLOWED UP ON YOUR CORRECT THIS ISN'T IS AND A AS WE GROW. I THOUGHT THAT WAS FOR SALE PRODUCT ONLY. EVERYBODY DEAL FOLLOWS. BECAUSE THE ONES I HAD DONE WAS FOR LIFESTYLE. WHICH WERE CONDOMINIUM EYES, BUT IT DOESN'T FACT APPLYING TO THIS SIDE AS WELL. SO THEY WILL BE PAYING THE SAME PACKED THESE THERE WAS A TRAFFIC STUDY DONE AS A PART OF THIS, WHICH WAS REQUESTED. UM AND FINALLY, WITH RESPECT TO THE CONDITIONS OF STAFF WOULD CERTAINLY AGREE TO PROVIDE THE BICYCLE PARKING AND WE CAN GUESS THE UP SOME OF THE ENTRANCE FUTURE LANDSCAPING I WOULDN'T LIKE TO COMMIT TO THE EIGHT PARKING SPACES. WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SOME FLEXIBILITY TO WORK WITH STAFF. TO ADDRESS THAT CONDITION AS TO WHERE WE PUT THE BICYCLES. SECURITY IS IMPORTANT IN THAT REGARD, INACCESSIBILITY SO WE WANT TO TAKE A SECOND.LOOK AT THAT. BUT WE AGREE IN PRINCIPLE WITH EVERYTHING THEY'VE ASKED. FIRST TIME WE WERE HERE NEIGHBORHOOD PROBABLY 15 20 PEOPLE HERE. UM AND WE WORKED DILIGENTLY. MY CLIENT DID TOO. ADDRESS CIRCUMSTANCE. THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION APPROVAL. WHO DID NOT GO FORWARD.
ORGANIZATION THAT DIDN'T CALL THE QUESTION. BECAUSE TRIGGERS A LOT OF. FINANCIAL COSTS GOING FORWARD. BE HAPPY TO ADDRESS THAT COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS. FANTASTIC WAS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WANTED NEEDED TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THIS? OTHERWISE WE CAN JUST GO RIGHT INTO THE PANEL DISCUSSION. MIKE CHAPPELL EAR. I HAVE SOME SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THE MHM. PROJECT HERE. I THINK FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN. IT LOOKS LIKE A GOOD PROJECT FROM BUILDING WIRES AND STUFF LIKE THAT AND MY BIGGEST CONCERN. IS THE DENSITY. BECAUSE IN THE ORIGINAL PROGRAM UH, FOR BILLY WEST VILLAGE NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER. IT'S A BASE DENSITY FIVE UNITS, WHICH IS WHAT YOU HAD SAID. BUT THEN IT'S UNDER THAT IT SAYS BONUS DENSITY, STRICT ADHERENCE TO THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS OF THIS SECTION MAY PERMIT AN INCREASE IN THE BASE DENSITY UP TO EIGHT. 0.0 UNITS PER ACRE. AND NOW WE'RE WANTING TO GO TO WHAT 21. DID YOU SAY? OKAY TO ME, THAT SEEMS LIKE AN AWFUL LOT. YOU ALSO MADE THE COMMENT. THAT DUE TO THE CHANGING OF THE CHARACTER OF THE AREA, IF YOU AND I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYBODY MENTION WEST VILLAGE NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER COMMERCIAL AH AH, WHICH ALLOWS FOR THE COMMERCIAL AND STUFF LIKE THAT. BUT THIS PARTICULAR UNIT ISN'T IN THE COMMERCIAL SECTION. IT'S IN AND THE OTHER SECTION. AND UH, YOU'RE BORDERED ON TWO SIDES. AH THE NORTH AND THE WEST WITH SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING YOUR BORDERED ON THE EAST WITH SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING. AND YOU'VE GOT A LITTLE CORNER UP IN THE NORTHEAST CORNER. THAT IS ANOTHER APARTMENT COMPLEX. BUT IT IS MUCH, MUCH LOWER DENSITY THAN WHAT THIS ONE IS SO TO ME, IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE TRYING TO PUT IN AN AWFUL LOT OF UNITS. IN A SPACE THAT. IT DOESN'T FLOW FROM 11 AREA TO ANOTHER. YOU NOW HAVE A HIGH. DENSITY AREA MUCH HIGHER THAN EVERYTHING ELSE. AND WHAT DID IT APPEARS TO ME FROM WHAT THE ORIGINAL INTENT WAS? YOU'RE GOING MUCH HIGHER AND IN REALITY THE AREA HAS GONE LOWER THAN WHAT EXPECTED. SO I DON'T SEE WHERE YOU'RE COMING ACROSS WITH. YOU CAN FIND THAT JUSTIFICATION FOR DOING IT. YOU YOU SAID SEVERAL APARTMENT COMPLEXES IN THE AREA AND WHAT THEIR DENSITY IS. BUT IT'S STILL MUCH LOWER THAN WHAT THESE ARE
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AND SOME OF THEM THAT YOU MENTIONED WERE CONSIDERABLY FURTHER AWAY. IF YOU GO FROM THE YEAH. EAST SIDE. THIS SITE. RIGHT HERE OVER TO HAMILTON'S ROAD. MILTON ROAD WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THE BUSINESS SECTOR, SO YOU HAVE BASICALLY THREE HOMES RIGHT HERE AND THEN THE HALF LOT HERE IS AH AH! BASICALLY VACANT BECAUSE THEY TORE DOWN THE HOUSE TO PUT THE ROAD THROUGH. AND THEN OVER HERE, THERE MAY BE ONE OR TWO. SMALL SMALL BUSINESSES RIGHT HERE, BUT BASICALLY THIS WHOLE AREA RIGHT? HERE IS WHAT WAS TO BE CONSIDERED. THE COMMERCIAL DISTRICT. AND. I KNOW WE FIND MORE. WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY SAY ON. WE DID TALK ABOUT THE BE BEHIND HER PROPERTY HERE A FEW MONTHS BACK TO GO ALONG, AND BASICALLY THEY WERE GOING TO BE TYING IN WITH WITH THIS. AND SO I REALIZED IN YOUR CALLING IT A SISTER SITE. I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE. AH! HOW IT IS. A QUOTE INCLUDES SISTER SITE BECAUSE I THOUGHT EVERYTHING WAS SUPPOSED TO BE CONSIDERED INDEPENDENTLY, BUT TO ME, I LIKE THE BUILDINGS BUT TO GO FROM SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING. 23 STORY BUILDINGS RIGHT HERE. I JUST I JUST DON'T SEE IT AND FOLLOW THAT QUESTION ALONG. WHAT BECAME OF THE 175 SIGNATURES THAT WERE OPPOSED TO THIS PROJECT. THAT'S THE THOSE ARE MY BIGGEST CONCERNS ON WHAT IT IS HERE. SHARED TO RESPOND. OKAY? PEOPLE THAT CIRCULATED PETITIONS. WE'RE LAST TIME. IN FACT, THEY'RE NOT HERE TONIGHT AFTER TWO MINUTES. EVIDENCE THAT . ASSOCIATION THAT SUPPORTS OUR ZONING REQUEST. I THINK STAFF ARTICULATED. COMPARABLE DENSITY THAT'S IN DIRECT PROXIMITY TO OUR SITE. AND I COULD PROBABLY RATTLE OFF THOSE SITES UNDERSTAND CITIES AND IN THIS COMFORTABLE THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS THAT WE WORKED WITH ALL THE PROPERTIES. AND ASK THEM IF THEY'RE RUNNING OR THERE. WHICH IS OF THEM ALL IS YOU KNOW OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS WHEN YOU STANDARDS WERE DONE FOR THE ACCORD, YOU ARE VERY ACCURATE. WHAT PRECISELY WE'RE DEALING WITH THE MARKET RATE. HOUSING PRICES. AND THE OTHER DESTITUTE. APPROVED.REFLECTED. AND I RESPECTFULLY SUBMIT THAT WHEN YOU HAVE A SITE LIKE THIS, BUT OBVIOUSLY AS A UTILITY. MARKET. PANIC JUST GOES ON AND HIS SIGHT. TRUMP WE DIDN'T CALL IT A SISTER SCIENTISTS. THE FACT THAT THE ROBERT WYLER COMPANY HAS BEEN PIONEER IS A BLACK FLOORS. YOU KNOW BETTER THAN ANY THAT THE HISTORY OF THE, ACCORDING TO ROBERT WYLER, IN THIS AREA ARE TIED TO THE HIP. I MEAN THIS WORDS, THE REMAINDER TRACK OF 300 ACRES OF ZONING. THAT I DID ON BEHALF OF THE ROBERT WYLER COMPANY. BEFORE HAMBLETON ROADS EXISTED. WE HAVE TO CENTRAL COLLEGE. AND WE'VE GOT THE BASE DENSITIES THAT WERE DENSITY TIME 12 AND THE L D S THEN WE HAVE SEEN PEOPLE COME BACK AND GET HIRED. BASED ON TODAY'S MARKET. SO I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT THE ORIGINAL INTENDED REPORT. I JUST RESPECTFULLY METHOD WE HONORED THE SETBACK WITH GENERAL SETBACK. THE CORRIDOR. TO RETAIN THAT. POLAND QUOTE COLLEGE CHARACTER TO THE EXTENT YOU CAN GIVE THEM. PERSPECTIVE, LAND USE SYSTEM. WE'VE HAD TO MOVE SOME EASEMENTS AND COMMITMENTS. BECAUSE HE'S A GOOD NEIGHBOR AND DIDN'T WANT NECESSARILY HAPPEN.
AND JUST HAVING APPROVED THE PROJECT ACROSS THE STREET FOR THE SAME DENSITY OR REMARKABLY BETWEEN DENSITY. IT JUST MAKES SENSE TO ME. TRAFFIC STUDY. BUT IT'S TIME FOR THIS AREA IS COMPREHENSIVE. AGAIN WE HAVE THE UNANIMOUS SUPPORT OF ALL 15 CITY REGULATORY AGENCIES THAT HAVE BEEN PUT IN STAFF. THANK YOU. IF I MIGHT NO ONE CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT THE DENSITIES ARE ON THOSE OTHER COMPLEXES AROUND CITED IN HERE? YES LET ME SEE. OTHER RAVINES THAT ROCKY RIDGES 13.4 ANDREW RESERVES 12.6 IN ALBANY CORNERS IS 9.11. HMM AND THE FENNIMORE ACROSS THE STREET WAS 21. I ACTUALLY THINK I CAN'T NAME THEM OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD . BUT SINCE I'VE BEEN STAFFING
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THE ACCORD, I DON'T THINK THERE'S BEEN A PROJECT APPROVED. THAT WAS UNDER 18. YEAH THAT THEY MAY NOT BE IN THIS DIRECTOR SERENITY. BUT WITHIN THE ACCORD , THIS IS ACTUALLY THE HIGHEST DENSITY RECOMMENDED. BUT BUT YOU SAID NOTHING'S BEEN IMPROVED ON EARTH. EVERYTHING HAS BEEN ABOVE 18 18. SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE. I BELIEVE I THINK MAYBE THE LOWEST THERE WAS ONE THAT WAS MAYBE 15 OR 16. BUT EVERYTHING SINCE THEN HAS BEEN 18 OR ABOVE. UM I JUST HAVE ONE QUICK QUESTION WHERE THE ABIDING RESIDENTS NOTIFIED OF THIS MEETING HAS BEEN QUITE A FEW, OKAY. SO I MEAN, I THINK THAT IS A POINT THAT YOU KNOW THIS PETITION IS LONG, BUT UM, IT SEEMS LIKE THE APPLICANT HAS ADDRESSED A LOT OF THE ISSUES AND I KNOW FROM EXPERIENCE, THERE WOULD STILL BE SOME RESIDENTS HERE IF THEY DIDN'T FEEL OTHERWISE. I JUST WANT TO LET GO. MICHELLE'S COMMENTS IS YOU KNOW WE'VE GOT OBVIOUSLY WEREN'T HERE THE LAST MEETING LAST MONTH BECAUSE YOU WERE STILL WORKING ON WITH TABLE CONTINUE, SO YOU CAN CONTINUE TO WORK WITH AND I WANT TO COMMEND BOTH DAVID AND YOU MIGHT ABOUT WORKING WITH THE LOCAL RESIDENTS AND MAKING THE CHANGES THAT NEEDED TO BE MADE TO APPEASE THEM AND SO FORTH, AND LIKE MICHELLE SAID THEY'RE NOT HERE TONIGHT, SO HOPEFULLY THAT'S A BUT SO THAT'S THAT'S MY ONLY COMMENT. THANK YOU. UH MR HER SCHOOL WITH J. HERSKOWITZ. ARE WE STILL REQUESTING THE HEIGHT VARIANCE? FIVE FT. AND, UH, CHANGING, UH, THE NORTH AND WEST BUILDING. FACES TO WINDOWLESS WAS THAT IN RESPONSE TO THE HEIGHT VERY THAT WHERE THE HEIGHT IS GOING TO BE AN ISSUE. YOU COULD SAY THAT. I BELIEVE THEY WALKED THE SITE ON THE INSTITUTO COMMUNICATIONS. THE HEIGHTS VARIANCE. THIS IS MY WORDS, NOT THEIRS, BUT IT SEEMED TO DIMINISH. IMPORTANCE. THE FACT THAT THERE WERE WINDOWS ON THOSE CAPS IS IN UNITS THAT YOU COULD LOOK OUT AND SEE CORRECTLY PROCESSING TO THEIR UNITS. THEY ASKED FOR THAT ADDITIONAL CONCESSION. I DIDN'T THINK IT WAS GOING TO WORK AND LAYOUT, BUT THEY CHANGED THE LAYOUT. SO THAT THAT COULD BE ACCOMPLISHED. AND WE HAVE CORRESPONDENCE FROM THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION. ACKNOWLEDGING SOMETHING THAT THEY COULD REQUIRE US TO BE.GREATLY APPRECIATED AND I DIDN'T GET THAT. UNTIL TWO O'CLOCK TODAY AND I SENT IT TO YOU COULDN'T ONLY PROBLEM. BUT THERE'S AN EMAIL CHAIN. IT SHOWS THAT PEOPLE THE FREEDOM OF ALL OF OUR CHANGES. WERE IN FACT INVOLVED IN THANK YOU, SIR. LIKE WHAT ARE THE SQUARE FOOTAGES OF THE UNITS. I HAVE FOOD TODAY. YEAH. MIKE UM, APPRECIATE YOUR LOOKING INTO THAT QUESTION ABOUT PAY AS YOU GROW AND WHETHER THIS PROJECT WILL BE CONTRIBUTING TO THAT. YOU MAY NOT HAVE AN ANSWER . I HAVE TOP OF YOUR HEAD. WE MADE TALK OFFLINE. BUT I'M CURIOUS, AND I HAVE. MAYBE, AS I MAY HAVE EXPLAINED BEFORE, OUR SELFISH REASON FOR ASKING WHETHER THIS WILL BE INCORPORATED INTO THE DISTRICT OF THE CENTRAL COLLEGE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY. SO THAT WHETHER THAT CONTRIBUTION WILL BE FUNDS THAT THE D A WILL.
BASICALLY IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING, OKAY? UM AND AGAIN I FULL DISCLOSURE. I USED TO BE A MEMBER OF TRUSTEE OF THE CDA ANNOUNCED. STAFFORD IS A VOLUNTEER TREASURE SO THEY WOULD NEED TO BE LEGISLATION THAT WOULD ACTUALLY EXPAND THE CDA AGAIN. I KNOW EVEN WHETHER STAFF KNOWS AT THIS POINT WHETHER THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE CERTAIN MOTION YOU KNOW, THERE WAS ONE GENTLEMAN WHO IS IN CHARGE OF PARENTS FOR A LONG TIME. I'VE HAD A LOT OF INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE ON DRAWING A BLANK ON HIS NAME. DAVID WHOLE PARTNER. OKAY AND I THINK MARK LUNDEEN WOULD PROBABLY BE THE RIGHT PERSON NOW FOLLOW UP WITH MARTIN. IT IS ABOUT OKAY, THAT THAT WAS INTENSE. BACK IN THE DAY I REVIEWED THE DOCUMENTS. YES. IT DOES. YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU. I THINK THOSE ARE ALL MY QUESTIONS FOR NOW. THANK YOU. GO AHEAD, OK ? I HAD ANOTHER QUESTION. YOU'RE YOU'RE PUTTING A LOT OF UNITS IN HERE AND BASICALLY TO GET TO
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WORK OR ANYTHING ELSE. THEY WANT TO GO TO THEIR GOING TO GO DOWN HAMBLETON ROAD TO GET ONTO THE 1 61 BYPASS. HAS THERE BEEN ANY PROVISION IN IMPROVING THAT AREA TRAFFIC FLOW? IF THAT INTERSECTION OF WARNER ROAD AND THEN ALSO WHERE YOU GO FROM WARNER ROAD SOUTH TO 1 61.BECAUSE YOU'RE ADDING A WHOLE BUNCH MORE NOW. AH! AND. THERE. YOU GOT A TWO LANE HIGHWAY DOWN THERE. SO IS THERE ANY IS THERE ANYTHING THAT SHOWS YOU? THE TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY THAT WAS DONE WAS DIFFERENT. THERE WAS A REGIONAL ONE DONE INCLUDED THE WYLER COMPANIES. AND THIS INTERSECTION AND THERE WERE MULTIPLE INTERSECTIONS THAT HAD TO BE STUDIED. MR CONSEQUENCE OF THAT. THAT'S WHY WITH THE FENIMORE COMING IN FIRST, UM THERE WAS SOME LOOSE ENDS ON THAT TRAFFIC STUDYING AND I GOT TIRED. WHEN WE BROUGHT THIS APPLICATION, AND THEY SAID OKAY , WE GOT THE TRAFFIC SETTING IN PLACE, OR YOU NEED TO DO IS I BELIEVE IT'S A ACCIDENT. WESTERN OKAY? YEAH. YEAH, AND HE'S FOUND LEFT THE INTERNAL LANE AND WE DID AN ACCESS STUDY. SO BUT THERE IS A MASTER TRAFFIC IMPACT STARTED TO CENTERS, ENTIRE REGION. BUT AT THIS POINT YOU YOU DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA IS TO WHAT THEY'RE DOING FURTHER SOUTH TO HELP THE TRAFFIC FLOW DOWN THERE OTHER THAN ED ANOTHER 200 CARS IN THE MORNING. I CAN'T ARTICULATE WHAT SPECIFIC IMPROVEMENTS ARE BEING MADE OFF SITE. I CAN JUST TELL YOU WHAT WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR ON SITE.
NORTH FAIR SHARE. OKAY? THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ONE MORE QUESTION IF I COULD THEY, PAUL UM AND YOU MAY HAVE VERY COVERED THIS IN PREVIOUS MEETING. BUT IF YOU WOULD REMIND ME, UM IN WAS THERE PARKLAND, DEDICATION OR PAYMENT? LIEU OF PARKLAND DEDICATION ON THIS PROJECT. WHERE IS THERE UP ? LET ME SEE WHAT PARKS AND RECS SAID HERE. YEAH I JUST BE CURIOUS. BY THE WAY WE DID GET A 91% ON THE BLACK COURT GREAT CARD, AND THAT'S MY HIGHEST GRADE EFFORTS. SO I WANT THAT ON THE RECORD, PLEASE. UM PARKS AND RECS. I HAVE NO COMMENTS AT THIS TIME. OH, UM. KATHY SPATS TO CHECK IN WITH ERIC TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE KEEPING THE OKAY, DO NOT KNOW WHETHER OR NOT THEY WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT. USUALLY DEPARTMENT CERTIFICATION FEE IS PAID. DISOWNING CLEARANCE STAGE . YES. SO I HAVEN'T HAD SPECIFIC DISCUSSIONS WITH KATHY. ITS FORMULA. THEY WOULD TELL US WHAT WERE REQUIRED TO PAY AND THAT'S GOING TO COUNT PUBLIC PARKLAND AND WOULD REQUIRE ACCESS. IT'S GONNA BE USED FOR OUR. ENJOYMENT OF OUR TENANTS. THERE'S A DIFFERENT FORMERLY SUPPLIED. AND WHAT DO WHATEVER PARTNER AND DEDICATION OKAY? THERE AREN'T IN THAT SPECIFIC LOCATION, A TRAIL CONNECTIONS OR ANYTHING INVOLVED AS I AS I REMEMBER. NO UM, PROBABLY ACTIVATED THE WISH THAT WANTS TO INTERNALLY BUT I GOT THE IMPRESSION THE NEIGHBORS I DIDN'T NECESSARILY WANT TO DESTINY TRAFFIC FORMS TO THEIR SIDE. THAT'S DEFENSE. OKAY? THANK YOU. OKAY ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION? ARE WE READY TO TAKE A VOTE? I WILL INTERPRET THE SILENCE IS THAT WE ARE READY, SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CALL THE ROLL. OR DO WE NEED TO MAKE A MOTION? SORRY. EMOTION FOR VOTE. IS THAT THE RIGHT A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE CASE. SO SELLERS WILL MOTION TO ACCEPT. PAUL WAS SECOND. THEN I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT IT. WE WANT TO KEEP THE MOTION AS IS OR ANY, UM CONDITIONS CONDITIONS WITH THAT. WE STIPULATED TO THE BIKE BICYCLE FOUNDATION. PROVIDING IT ON SITE LOCATION DETERMINED THAT THE STAFF THANK YOU. AND THE COMMITMENT TO THE WINDOWS IS NOT TECHNICALLY ON THE PLANTS, SO THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER.
CONDITION, CONDITION. AND FOR THE RECORD IF YOU DO THIS SO YOUR MOTION TO APPROVE AS IT'S BEEN PRESENTED TO US TODAY, AND NOT NECESSARILY WHAT'S ON THE DRAWING RIGHT NOW. WE'LL TAKE
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ANOTHER MOTION MOTION SELLERS. OKAY THANK YOU AND PAUL WILL SECOND. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.THANK YOU. MR SELLERS? YES, MR PAUL? YES? MR HERSKOWITZ. I JUST SOMEONE OF VOTE? NO I APPRECIATE THE QUALITY, BUT I JUST HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THE HAIF, EVEN THOUGH THE FOLKS BOUGHT INTO IT AND I JUST WANT TO GET THAT OUT THERE MOVING FORWARD NECESSARILY FOR YOUR PROJECT. OF WORK. THANK YOU. MISTER HARPER? YES. MR CHAPPELLE EAR. NO. MR BRUBAKER. YES. MR BONEY? YES. MR SMITHERS? YES. 56 VOTES IN FAVOR. TWO VOTES IN OPPOSITION. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION.
WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE ONTO THE NEXT CASE, WHICH IS, UM PLAIN TOWNSHIP WHEN I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO CHANGE CHAIRS, MID MID STREAM, OR SHOULD WE CONTINUE? OKAY I'VE GOT THE NOTE TO CONTINUE ON, SO I'LL TRY TO MAKE THIS AS INTERESTING AS I CAN. SO THE NEXT CASES, PETE EASY. 3-9 DASH 2023 62 OH, TWO, AND 62 OH FOUR WALNUT STREET. HMM. LOCALS. YEAH. TO REVIEW SO MY APOLOGIES. WE'LL TRY TO EXPAND THIS LITTLE BIT. WE'LL WORK OUR WAY THROUGH IT. ALRIGHT SO THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 68 TO 2 WANTED STREET AND UNINCORPORATED , PLAIN TOWNSHIP, TWO PARCELS TOTALING 8.27 ACRES. AH THIS AREA IS NORTH OF WANNA STREET WEST OF 605, WEST OF SCHLEP E ROAD. JASON TO AN EXISTING TOWNSHIP SUBDIVISION, TAYLOR STATES LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL FOR UNITS PER ACRE. DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET IS OPEN SPACE OPEN SPACE PART OF THE PROBLEM.
THE WEST SUBDIVISION, BUT NO ACTUAL RESIDENCE IS DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM THE DEVELOPMENT.
CURRENTLY ZONED RURAL DISTRICT AND PLAIN TOWNSHIP PROPOSED TO BE SELECT COMMERCIAL PLAN DISTRICT. IS THE MAP OF CURRENT PLAIN TOWNSHIP ZONING HIGHLIGHTED IN RED PROPOSED ZONING WOULD MATCH UM, ANOTHER SELECT COMMERCIAL PLAN DISTRICT. PERSONAL STORAGE ORDER HOUSE ON JOHNSTOWN ROAD IN THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF THE TOWNSHIP. YOU CAN SEE THERE THE TWO PARCELS THE SMALLER TO THE WEST, DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO TAILOR ESTATES.
ALRIGHT SO THE DEVELOPMENT PROPOSES 110,751 SQUARE FEET OF STRUCTURE, INCLUDING 25,554 SQUARE FEET OF COVERED PARKING. THERE'S ALSO AN INTERIOR OFFICE SPACE INCLUDED. A TOTAL OF 60.6% OF THEM PREVIOUS COVERAGE. UH LESS THAN THE 65% LIVING IN THE PLAIN TOWNSHIP ZONING. THE SITE INCLUDES A SETBACK OF APPROXIMATELY 75 FT FROM THE CENTER LINE OF WALNUT STREET.
THIS IS ABOUT HALF THE EXISTING SETBACK TO THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES FRONTING ON WALNUT STREET. THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH AND EAST ARE OPEN SPACE UNDEVELOPED. PROPERTY DIRECTLY NORTH WAS ACQUIRED BY METRO PARKS. PROPERTY TO THE EAST IS AN OLD FAMILY FARM. IT IS TARGETED FOR METRO PARKS ACQUISITION IN THE FUTURE. IT IS BISECTED BY THE COLUMBUS NEW ALBANY WATER AND SEWER AGREEMENT. THAT PRESENTS SOME CHALLENGE FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT OF THAT PROPERTY TO THE EAST. WE DON'T ANTICIPATE ANY DEVELOPMENT IN THE IMMEDIATE FUTURE AND
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AGAIN METRO PARKS IS INTERESTED IN THE PROPERTY. THE SITE INCLUDES A 50 FT BUFFER TO THE WEST. WITH MOUNTING AND SCREENING. WORKING TO SHIELD THE EXISTING RESIDENTS FROM THE DEVELOPMENT. DEVELOPER HAS ALSO AGREED TO PROVIDE A EMERGENCY EQUIPMENT TURNAROUND AT THE TERMINUS OF ALICE DRIVE ON THE WESTERN EDGE. THAT WAS A REQUEST OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.CURRENTLY THERE IS A VERY SMALL BUS TURNAROUND ONLY. THE LIGHTING IS PROPOSED AS CUT OFF LIGHTING, PRIMARILY WALL MOUNTED IN ORDER TO SHIELD THE EXISTING RESIDENTS TO THE WEST. AGAIN NO RESIDENTS TO THE NORTH EAST OR SOUTH. FENCING WOULD BE WROUGHT IRON FENCING TO THE FRONT AND WEST AND CHAIN LINK FENCING TO THE EAST AND THE REAR WILL BE GATE CONTROLLED ACCESS TO THE BULK OF THE SITE. HOWEVER THAT GATE IS MIDWAY BACK ON THAT DRIVE. THERE'S A LARGE RETENTION BASIN AND OCCUPIES THE MAJORITY OF THE OPEN SPACE. IT IS USED AS AN ELEMENT TOO. SHIELD THE SPACE FROM WALNUT STREET, PROVIDING A BIT OF A BUFFER VISUALLY. THE MAIN STRUCTURE IS ORIENTED TO RIDE THE NARROWEST PORTION DIRECTLY FRONTING WALNUT STREET AGAIN WORKING TO LIMIT THE IMPACT OF THE FRONTAGE. WANNA STREET IS IDENTIFIED AS A RURAL NATURAL CORRIDOR IN THE ROCKY FORK ACCORD. UM WHICH TYPICALLY INCLUDES A 250 FT SETBACK, YOU KNOW? THE ONLY IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT DEVELOPMENT OR THE YEAH . HOMES TO THE WEST, APPROXIMATELY 125 FT. FROM CENTER LINE. THE SITE INCLUDES TRADITIONAL, UM PERSONAL STORAGE, WAREHOUSING ACCESS FROM THE EXTERIOR AS WELL AS INTERIOR CLIMATE CONTROLLED SPACE. 513 INDIVIDUAL UNITS TOTAL PROPOSED.
STAFF RECOGNIZES THAT UNIQUE HISTORY AND NATURE OF THIS SITE PRESENTS CHALLENGES FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE SITE CONSISTENT WITH THE ACCORD. THIS IS INDICATED AS PARK ZONE NORTH OF WALNUT STREET. THAT'S THE ENTIRETY OF PLAIN TOWNSHIP NORTH OF WARNING STREET. HOWEVER THIS SITE HAS BEEN USED FOR COMMERCIAL PURPOSES, INCLUDING STORAGE AND WAREHOUSING. SINCE 1948 ALSO INCLUDES A FORMER GESTATION DATING FROM 1957. CREATING SOME CURRENT CONDITIONS THAT MAKE IT DIFFICULT FOR REDEVELOPMENT. ALSO THE EXISTING STRUCTURES AND SITE ARE FAIRLY DILAPIDATED AND GENERALLY UNDESIRABLE. THE SITE IS GENERATED A NUMBER OF COMPLAINTS OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS. THE PROPOSED USES AN EXTENSION OF THE EXISTING COMMERCIAL USE.
HOWEVER IT'S OF SUCH A NATURE THAT REZONING IS REQUIRED. MAINTAINING THE EXISTING CHARACTER WANTED STREET AND THE BUFFERING THE EXISTING HOMES ARE KEY ISSUES FOR THIS PARCEL. AH! THE DEVELOPER HAS WORKED TO PROVIDE SIGNIFICANT SCREENING TO THE WEST FOR THOSE EXISTING HOMES DID MAKE SOME CHANGES TO THE INITIAL CONCEPT TO PROVIDE MORE. OF A RURAL CHARACTER FRONTING ON WALNUT STREET. OH I WOULD NOTE THAT THE PROPOSED DENSITY WORKS OUT TO 13,392 SQUARE FEET PER ACRE, WHICH IS SIGNIFICANTLY MORE THAN THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED PERSONAL STORAGE WAREHOUSE FACILITIES ON JOHNSTON ROAD AND PLAIN TOWNSHIP. HOWEVER SIGNIFICANTLY LESS THAN THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED PERSONAL STORAGE WAREHOUSING ON HAMILTON'S ROAD.
THE APPLICANT IS HERE TODAY TO, UM PRESENT TO THE PANEL. AT THIS POINT STAFF WOULD AGAIN JUST ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THE SITE HAS, UH, CHALLENGING HISTORY, YOU KNOW, WITH A PRIOR GASOLINE SERVICE STATION WE DON'T ANTICIPATE AND DEVELOPER WOULD BE WILLING TO INVEST FINANCIALLY FOR THREE INDIVIDUAL RESIDENTIAL UNITS WOULD BE THE LIMITATION IN PLAIN TOWNSHIP UNDER CURRENT ZONING DEVELOPER SEEMS INTERESTED IN PROVIDING THE DEVELOPMENT. THAT WOULD BE, UM REASONABLE AND APPROPRIATE. GIVEN THE CURRENT CONDITIONS. STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THE APPLICANT RECONSIDER THE CURRENT DENSITY AS PROPOSED, UM AND WORK TOWARDS SOMETHING. MORE
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EQUIVALENT TO ONE UNIT PER ACRE , UH, AS CONSIDERED BY THE ROCKY FORK, IT COORDINATES IN TURN IT OVER TO THE APPLICANT. NOW IF YOU'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THE PANEL, YEAH. AND SINCE SINCE WE HAD YOU COME IN A LITTLE BIT AFTER THE START OF THE MEETING, WE NEED TO SWEAR YOU IN SO THESE SWEAR TO TELL THE WHOLE TRUTH, THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH, SO HELP YOU GOD.OKAY, FANTASTIC. JEFF IRONMAN IS MY NAME AND. PROBABLY OUTPUT AND THE DEVELOPER. THEY TOLD ME I WAS SUPPOSED TO BRING AN ENTIRELY OR SOMETHING, BUT AND I FIGURED MY FUTURE STRAIGHT.
MAYBE YOU COULD JUST RECAP WHAT YOUR PLANS ARE, THEN WE CAN ASK YOU QUESTIONS. OKAY. GOODBYE MIGHT BE NO MORE. YES. SO SELF STORAGES. IF YOU GO DOWN THE LIST OF IT PROBABLY DEVELOPMENT POSSIBILITIES OF THE SITE. IT'S REALLY KIND OF THE ONLY THING YOU CAN COME TO THAT. IT MAKES SENSE IN A WAY. CONTAMINATED 12 HERE FROM. THE GAS STATION, WHICH MAKES IT TOUGH FOR ANY TYPE OF RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT OR ANYTHING. SELF STORAGE. AND THE ENCAPSULATING WITH THE CONCRETE AND STUFF. UM, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN MAJORITY OF IT OUT IN THE RESCUE CAPSULE, AIDED WITH THE CONCRETE MAN. THE DESIGN OF THE BUILDING. AS FAR AS THE RURAL CHARACTER WHO TRIED TO INCLUDE THAT SILO THERE AND MAKE IT YOU KNOW FIT IN. I FEEL LIKE A BARN. THE RURAL ATMOSPHERE. THE SETBACKS THERE. TAYLOR STATES. EXCEPT BACKS FOR 35 FT. 55 FT. AND WE'VE ALSO BEEN ABLE TO RAISE THAT. UP TO SIX. FT. AND THEN ON TOP OF THAT BURN WILL BE HEAVYWEIGHT ESCAPING AND EVERYTHING SO FAIRLY WELL. HIDDEN FROM THE NEIGHBORS, AND I WAS KIND OF, YOU KNOW, FROM THE BEGINNING OF MAKING SURE WE ARE CONSCIOUS OF THAT. QUESTION. WHAT DO YOU GOT? HEAD OPEN UP QUESTIONS. I'M SURE SO IT IS A REAL CORRIDOR. OF COURSE. UH, WHAT TYPE OF SIGNAGE? WOULD YOU? PROPOSE AND WILL BE AND HOW IS THE SIGN IS GOING TO FIT INTO THE RULE. ROLL QUARTER ASPECT OF IT. YOU SEE, THERE IS WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE. THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL SCIENCE THAT YOU DON'T SEE IT WILL BE RIGHT THERE. YOU'LL SEE. SOFT STORAGE. CAN YOU MAKE IT SAY, MILHOUSE? TOBACCO WHAT IT WHAT IS IT? YEAH I MEAN, YEAH. I APPRECIATE THE SILO TO SAY THE SAME. YEAH. YEAH I THINK IT WAS. IT WAS REALLY COOL. CHINA TAKE FROM THE RURAL FIELD AROUND TOWN VIDEO KIND OF GETTING CREATIVE WITH IT SO I SEE THE FENCING. THERE IS THAT IS THAT PART OF WHAT. IS THAT FOR REAL WHITEHORSE? YEAH. TYPICALLY THESE FACILITIES HAVE SECURITY FENCING ALL THE WAY AROUND. ARE THERE ANY PLANS FOR THAT ACTUAL, YOU KNOW. SELF STORAGE PART OF IT BACK HERE. THERE'S A GATE RIGHT HERE IN THE DEFENSE AND GOES AROUND THE EXTERIOR. BUT NOT AT THE CLIMATE CONTROL. THERE WON'T BE ANY OFFENSE UP HERE. SORRY. YOU HAVE TO JUMP FRIENDS HERE TO ACTUALLY GET INTO STORAGES. SO THEN THAT GATE AND THE CONTROL FOR THE GATE WOULD BE FURTHER BACK BEHIND THE CONTROLS. OKAY? YES, GREAT. DAY, PAUL. UM FIRST OF ALL, I PROPS, I THINK AND I THINK YOU WERE SAYING AS WELL TO SORT OF MAKING IT LOOK LIKE A FARM BUILDING OR SOMETHING, ISN'T IT? IT'S UH THAT WAS CREATED. UM, I WAS WONDERING, THOUGH. AH! I DON'T KNOW WHETHER PLAIN TOWNSHIPS EXISTING REGULATIONS WITH ALREADY WOULD PRECLUDE YOU'RE NEEDING SPECIFIED. BUT WOULD YOUR POLICIES IF NOT SPECIFIED THERE BE NO OUTDOOR STORAGE OF VEHICLES OR BOATS OR TRAILERS AND THAT SORT OF THING OR IS THAT SOMETHING YOU ANTICIPATE MIGHT HAPPEN ON THE SITE. YES. SO IN THE EXTERIOR, THERE IS OUTDOOR STORAGE THERE IS AFTER STORAGE PARKING. THE PROPERTY CURRENT VARIES A CONDITIONAL USE FOR ABOUT NOR BE STORED. WHERE
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IS THAT LOCATED? THE WASN'T I DIDN'T DETECT THAT. JUST. COVERED BACK THERE. OKAY SO IT IS COVERED. THEY'RE NOT JUST SITTING OUT ON THE ASPHALT THAT THEY LIKE. IS IT MORE OF A BREEZEWAY KIND OF COVERING, THOUGH THEY'RE OPEN, OKAY. TWO ROWS OF PARKING BACK THERE. EACH HAD YEAH. THESE ARE OKAY? AND OBVIOUSLY THERE WOULD BE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT STORMWATER DETENTION AND SO FORTH AND POTENTIAL FOR ANY PETROLEUM PRODUCTS ASSOCIATED STORING VEHICLES BEING DEALT WITH APPROPRIATELY, BUT THAT'S NOT REALLY WITHIN OUR SCOPE. IT'S JUST SOMETHING YOU OBVIOUSLY NEED TO HAVE LOOKED INTO, RIGHT . ABSOLUTELY AND WE HAVE EXCEEDED THE REQUIREMENTS THERE FOR FORMER STORM WATER RUNOFF. OH, SO THIS PART OF THE STORAGE IS THIS IS CLIMATE CONTROL VERSUS NOT THROW BACK HERE. AND THERE DRIVE IN RIGHT THERE. GET INTO. IN THE WINTERTIME AND STUFF SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO PARK OUTSIDE UNLOADED. MY WIFE SENT ME GOOD. COORDINATOR CHRISTMAS DECORATIONS THAT'S USUALLY PRETTY CHILLY. THERE'S CONTAINERIZED, IS IT SOMETHING WAS BROUGHT TO YOUR CAR, AND THEN WHEN YOU BRING IT BACK, JUST GOES OFF. GETS STORED FOR YOU, OR IS THAT PERSONAL ACCESS? INDIVIDUAL. UNITS AND SERGEANT OKAY, SO YOU CAN PULL IN, BUT YOU WOULD STILL GO TO YOUR UNIT. TAKE OUT WHAT YOU WANT AND GOTCHA. OKAY. FINANCIAL YOU KNOW IT'S RIGHT THERE. GOTCHA OKAY, TALKING ABOUT RIGHT HERE. YES.OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY CHAPEL. ER, UH DURING. AH BEN'S DISCUSSION THERE. HE SAID THAT THERE WAS OFFICE SPACE HERE. WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THIS. AND WHERE IS THE OFFICE PATIENT? OKAY OKAY, SO IT'S JUST A SMALL OFFICE FOR YOU. THE STORAGE UNIT. YOU KNOW FOR THE OPERATOR OF THE FACILITY, THIRD PARTY MANAGEMENT GROUP, SO THEY'LL BE YOU KNOW, STAFF PERSON PROPERTY MANAGEMENT. OKAY SO, BUT IT'S BASICALLY FOR THE BUILDING. IT'S NOT. YOU'RE NOT ALSO LEASING SPACE OUT FOR OTHER BUSINESS. INTERESTING. YOU SAY THAT. I ACTUALLY LOOKED AT DOING A LITTLE BIT OFF HIS FACE. RIGHT THERE. I'VE GOT A THREE YEAR OLD AND A TWO MONTH OLD RIGHT NOW.
AND YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF AROUND LOOKING FOR SOMETHING FOR SOME STATES TO GET OUT OF IT. SO WE PLAYED AROUND A LITTLE BIT, TOO, YOU KNOW, POSSIBLY PUT SOME OFFICE SPACE AND THERE WAS GOING TO BE FOR ME PERSONALLY. BUT JUST KIND OF PERSONAL DAYCARE. YEAH. ALRIGHT. ALRIGHT. YEAH.
AND THEN ANOTHER QUESTION. I HAD YOU. YOU HAVE THE PAWN THERE. WHAT? WHAT KIND OF A FOND DEPTH ARE YOU THINKING ON THERE? IT'S THE MAXIMUM LIKE FIVE FT. OKAY, SO IT'S A SHALLOW PART, OKAY? BECAUSE YOU GET MORE WEEDS IN SHALLOW PONDS, AND YOU DO ON DEEPER PONDS. THAT'S WHY I WAS WONDERING ABOUT THAT ASPECT OF THE, UH FILTRATION SYSTEM. OKAY THE OTHER QUESTION THAT I HAD WAS CONCERNING THE POND. YOU SAY THAT THE SOIL THERE IS CONTAMINATED. IS THERE ANY WAY OF THE CONTAMINATION, GETTING FROM THE SOIL TO THE POND? AND THEN WHERE DOES THAT POND RUN OFF TO? SO THE WORK TAKING THE CONTAMINATED SOIL OFF SITE AND THEN YOU KNOW IT'S BASICALLY.
YEAH I MEAN, THE EXISTING GAS STATION WAS LIKE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF WRITING THIS LOCATION, SO WE'VE DONE ALL OF OUR TESTING, AND IT DOESN'T EXCEED INTO THIS AREA HERE AND EVERYTHING HERE WILL BE DUGOUT AND THEN I MEAN, IF YOU WERE GONNA EXACTLY KIND OF CRAZY TO THINK ABOUT IT. BUT THEY SAID, YOU KNOW IF YOU WERE GOING TO DO SOME SORT OF RESIDENTIAL HOME OR SOMETHING YOU HAVE TO DIG LIKE 20 FT. DOWN TO SO THAT'S KIND OF SHOWS YOU RIGHT. LIKE OVER THE YEARS. I MEAN GAS. THERE'S A BIG DATES BACK TO LIKE. UH 57, AT LEAST SO I GUESS. YEAH, OVER THE YEARS.
IT'S REALLY PRETTY PRETTY DEEP AND SO YEAH. YEAH. WHY WE BE ABLE TO SIGN OFF ON THE WORK YOU'VE DONE TO REMEDIATE SO OKAY? GOOD JOB. WE HOLD OFF THE CONTAMINATED SOIL ONTO IT. PROOF
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SITE. YEP. WHAT THIS SIZE OF THE CLIMATE CONTROL. DOES THAT REQUIRES FIRE SUPPRESSION COMPARTMENTALIZING NOT. YOU KNOW, IT IS A QUESTION FOR BEN. I HEARD THE APPLICANT MENTIONED FIVE FT DEPTH ON THE POND. MY EXPERIENCES ARE IS THAT POINTS NEED TO BE 68 FT TO PREVENT ALGAE GROWTH. IN AND ALLOW. WATER QUALITY BENEFITS FOR SEDIMENT THAT DROP OUT THAT MIGHT COME OFF YOUR PARKING LOT. AND UH, I WAS JUST SAYING, I'M SURE YOU'RE GOING TO DO THIS BUT HAVE A PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER DESIGNED THE POND. BUT I'M NOT SURE WHAT OUR POLICY IS. SO THE PANEL HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THE FRANKLIN COUNTY STORMWATER MAY KNOW FOR RETENTION PURPOSES. THE COUNTY DRAINAGE ENGINEER WILL BE REVIEWING IT FOR COMPLIANCE. THERE'S A FIVE FT DEPTH RING A BELL FOR YOU. I DON'T RECALL. YEAH YOU HAVE. THAT'S A LITTLE CONCERN ON MY PART BECAUSE HERE IN NEW ALBANY WE ALL ARE. WET BOARDS ARE 6 TO 8 FT DEPTH, AND WE DON'T PERMIT ANY OF THE FANCY. SPRINKLERS THAT RIGHT RURAL IF IT IS 6 TO 8 FT. THEY'LL DEFINITELY MAKE US 68 FT. WELL, THAT THAT THAT'S THE CITY OF COLUMBUS. STRANGE MANUAL. YEAH THAT'S WHAT THEY WERE FIRED THAT, BUT I'M PRETTY SURE THE ENGINEERING YOU KNOW, FURTHER PUT THIS TOGETHER.COMPLIED. I'LL DEFINITELY FINISH YOUR ENGINEER. ADVANCED CIVIL WARNER. YEAH. THE BEST. WELL, IF YOU NEED EXTRA MOUNTING AROUND THE PROPERTY, YOU CAN TAKE IT OUT OF THE BOND. ACTUALLY ACTUALLY. YEAH, THE CONTAMINATED WE ACTUALLY WE ARE INITIAL DESIGN. JUST THAT. GALLANTRY THERE TO THE RESIDENTIAL TO THE WEST. INITIALLY, YOU KNOW WE HAD BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT'S KIND OF A DISH AND THE WHOLE THING. YEAH, AND SO WE LOOKED AT IT. USING THAT. WORKS THAT WAY BETTER IF WE CAN BUILD THAT FIRM UP AND I HAVE TO HAVE IT. AND ANOTHER QUESTION THAT I HAVE IS ON THE BACK FENCE AND THE EASTERN FENCE IF, IN FACT ON THE EAST THE PARKS DEPARTMENT. HER METRO PARKS. TAKE OVER THAT AREA. WHAT KIND OF A VIEW ARE THEY GOING TO BE GETTING FROM FROM THERE. I MEAN, AS FAR AS SCREENING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, YOU CAN SEE THIS IS, YOU KNOW IS THAT EXISTING EXISTING? YEAH. I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR BEN. UH BEN, YOU SAID WE RECEIVED THIS KIND OF LATE BECAUSE IT WAS GOING THROUGH PLAYING TOWNSHIP ZONING COMMISSION THAT WE DID.
THE ZONING COMMISSION CHANGES OWNING ON THIS. WE'VE ONLY ACCEPTED IT. SCHEDULE IT FOR HEARING NEXT MONTH. OKAY SO, YEAH, THIS WILL ALSO BE GOING TO FRANKLIN COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION FOR REVIEW AS WELL. AND THAT WAS MY OTHER QUESTION. AFTER WE LOOK AT IT, IT GOES TO FRANK KELLY AND THEN EVENTUALLY TO THE TOWNSHIP TRUSTEES. THAT'S CORRECT, OK? UH, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I HAD WAS YOU WENT THROUGH WHEN YOU'RE GOING THROUGH YOUR PRESENTATION WAS THE I DON'T KNOW. WHAT'S UH, YOU MENTIONED HOW MUCH COVERAGE THIS WAS, INCLUDING THE PARKING LOT AND BUILDINGS AND SO FORTH. DOES THIS FIT WITHIN THE PARAMETERS OF WHAT PLAIN TOWNSHIP REQUIRES AS FAR AS COVERAGE? IT WOULD BE EXCEEDING IT WOULD BE LESS THAN THE MAXIMUM OF 65% I THINK THAT'S WHAT I THINK WHEN YOU SAID THAT I REMEMBER. UM AS FAR AS THE GAS STATIONS CONCERNED, AND THE REMITTED REMILITARIZATION RE MEDIATE REMEMBERING WHAT IS IT THE WORD REMEDIATION IS THERE ARE THERE UNDERGROUND TANKS ALSO SUCH REMOVED? OKAY, ACTUALLY, UH, DID A SCAN. THEY DO LIKE SOME LASER SCAN TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS NO EXISTING ONES RIGHT NOW. IT'S JUST A MINUTE SOIL THERE. OKAY, DOCUMENTATION. SAYING THAT THEY WERE REMOVED, BUT WE STILL DOUBLE CHECK BECAUSE SO YOU WANT TO DO IS PICK UP A TANK IN THE MIDDLE OF CONSTRUCTION. YEAH.
SORRY I SHOULDN'T LAUGH. IT'S NOT FUNNY. I GUESS ONE OF MY CONCERNS IS OBVIOUSLY WHAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IS THE PROPOSED 110,000 SQUARE FEET. YOU KNOW, IT'S SUCCEEDS. RIGHT NOW YOU'RE AT 13,000. 392 FT PER SQUARE SQUARE FEET PER ACRE, WHICH CONSIDERABLY EXCEEDS EXACTLY
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WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE AGREED TO. SO FAR CORRECT. I BELIEVE SO. IT WAS THAT SOME OF THE OTHER NUMBERS YOU THROUGH OUR 717,000 SQUARE FEET AND PREVIOUS APPLICATIONS. YEAH, THAT'S CORRECT. ON THE JOHNSTOWN ROAD. EXISTING DEVELOPMENTS. UM. AND THEN BY COMPARISON, THE MORE DENSE URBAN LOCATION ON HAMILTON'S RUFER CARDINAL STORAGES VERTICAL, AND THAT WAS 17,000 PLUS SQUARE FEET PER SECOND. OKAY? THANKS. UM I DON'T THE DENSITY DOESN'T BOTHER ME TOO MUCH. I GUESS I HAVE QUESTIONS ON THE SETBACK. AND MAYBE MAYBE THIS IS MORE FOR BEN. BUT JUST UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S APPLYING FOR A SIGNIFICANT VARIANCE REQUESTS FOR THE FRONT OR THE BUILDING SET BACK OFF AND WALNUT STREET. DOES THAT ALSO APPLY TO THE POND TOO? TO BE SET BACK SO FAR, SO THERE WOULD NOT BE A VARIANCE REQUIRED. THIS WILL BE A REZONING TO A SELECT COMMERCIAL PLAN DISTRICT. UM YOU KNOW, WOULD HAVE. IT'S UPON REQUIRED TO BE SET BACK. ACCORDING TO THE RPS STANDARDS. I'M NOT SURE I THINK THAT'S GENERALLY DEVELOPMENT CORRECT. SO THIS THE SETBACK DOES COMPLY ON THE ALONG WHAT WALNUT ROAD. SUPER PLAIN TOWNSHIP ZONING THIS THIS WOULD COMPLY. UM, IT'S ACTUALLY UM INCREASED SET THAT FROM THE CURRENT STRUCTURES. UM. NO. THE ROCKY FORK ACCORD. RURAL ROAD CORRIDOR SETBACK IS 250 FT WOULD NOT LIKE THAT, OKAY? NOW THE EXISTING HOMES TO THE WEST. THERE ARE 125 FT FROM CENTRAL SO THIS WOULD BE THE CLOSEST STRUCTURE TO THAT ROAD AND THIS VICINITY. IT WOULD BE, BUT IT IS FURTHER AWAY THAN THE EXISTING STRUCTURE. OKAY? UM I HAD ANOTHER QUESTION ON THIS PART OF THE FIRE ACCESS. I SEE THAT THEY'RE ON THE WEST SIDE IS A FIRE TRUCK TURNAROUND. IS THAT ALSO AN EMERGENCY ACCESS POINT THERE. IT IS NOT. IT WAS JUST A REQUEST FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS PROVIDE TURNAROUND SO THAT ALICE DRIVE WOULD NEVER CONNECT INTO THIS DEVELOPMENT.NO. IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S JUST THAT THE DRAWING MADE IT. IT LOOKED LIKE IT WAS, BUT. AND THEN SORRY . ONE MORE QUESTION. HAS THERE BEEN ANY PUBLIC COMMENT OR PUBLIC? WRITTEN EMAILS OR ANY CONCERNS BY THE RESIDENTS NEARBY. NOT TO THIS POINT WOULD NOT ISSUED ANY PUBLIC NOTICE FOR OUR HEARINGS YET. THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SO I DIDN'T HEAR ANY SPECIFIC AMENDMENTS. WE HAD QUESTIONS, BUT I DON'T THINK THERE WAS A LIST OF AMENDMENTS.
BUT I GUESS I WANT TO UM, MAYBE GO AHEAD AND ASK FOR A MOTION. IF WE'RE READY FOR THAT I DO HAVE A QUESTION BEFORE WE GET TO THAT PART. UH, WITH WITH EVERYTHING THAT BENJAMIN SAYING AS TO WHAT THE TOWNSHIP STILL NEEDS TO DO. AH! BEN, IS IT? ARE WE REALLY TO THE POINT THAT WE SHOULD BE VOTING ON THIS? AT THIS POINT? DO WE FIND OUT THE INFORMATION THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO FIND OUT OR DO WE HAVE TO? ARE WE, THE ONES THAT SET THE COURSE. YEAH BECAUSE I'M I'M CONCERNED THAT WE'RE VOTING ON IT. AND THEN EVERYTHING IS GOING TO SAY, WELL, YEAH, BUT THEN IT MAY BE REJECTED HERE, HERE HERE , AND SO THAT'S THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING IS IT IS IT SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD BE DOING AT THIS POINT? WELL, THAT'S FAIR, YOU KNOW, LIKE THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY. THERE ARE SEVERAL STEPS TO THE RESULTING PROCESS FOR US. THIS IS THE FIRST BODY TO ACTUALLY REVIEW IT. NEXT WE'LL BE PLANNING COMMISSION THAT WILL COME BACK TO OUR ZONING COMMISSION. UM JUST LOOKING AT THE SCHEDULE FOR THE TIMELINES. WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP THIS AS TIGHT AS POSSIBLE FOR THE DEVELOPER, BUT WE COULD BRING IT BACK TO THE APRIL MEETING. WELL THE PREVIOUS HAPPENED THE SAME THING THEY CAME IN AND PRESENTED THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN. IN THE PUBLIC SHOWED UP. ADDRESS PUBLIC CONCERNS AND PROVED IT TONIGHT SO VERY SIMILAR PASSES. THAT WAS WHY I WAS QUESTION. WHERE ARE WE IN THE PROCESS. SO TYPICALLY, WE RECEIVE A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE RFP TO AND FROM PLANNING COMMISSION BEFORE WE HAVE OUR PUBLIC HEARING. THAT'S JUST IN
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OUR ZONING TEXT. WE'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE THE APPLICANT OBTAINED THOSE FIRST. AND THAT'S HOW IT WORKS IN COLUMBUS AS WELL THAT THIS ENDS UP BEING OUR RECOMMENDATION ENDS UP GOING TO COLUMBUS. PLANNING AND BUILDING IS OWNING STAFF, RIGHT? SO EVEN THOUGH IT MIGHT CHANGE SOMEWHERE AFTER US IN THE FLOW. BUT. I'M NOT DISAGREEING WITH YOUR SUGGESTION THAT IF IT WAS POSSIBLE TO HAVE IT, COME BACK TO US. THAT WOULD BE INTERESTING. BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S NORMAL. INDEED. THERE SEEMS TO BE THREE OTHER BOARDS AFTER THIS. IT'S A LONG ROAD.YOU, GIRL. WELL WHETHER WE RULE ON IT TODAY, IT'S NOT GOING TO HOLD UP THE PROCESS. NOT NECESSARILY, UM WE WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE OUR PROCESS FOR OUR REQUIRED PUBLIC HEARINGS OR OUR NEXT DATE WILL BE APRIL 13TH, AND SO WE'LL HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS BEFORE OUR ZONING COMMISSION ON APRIL 13TH BEFORE THE NEXT THERAPY OF MEETING. UM BUT THEN OUR TOWNSHIP BOARD OF TRUSTEES MORE LIKE HERE THIS UNTIL MAY 3RD. CAN GIVE YOU GUYS SOME MORE INFORMATION ANYMORE. REST OF THE MOTION THAT WE WILL REACH AFRICA. PROCESS. PEOPLE WITH NOT MAYBE SETBACK. NO, THAT GAS STATION. SAT THERE ON THE RHETORIC. THE SETBACKS, ACTUALLY 60 FT. 75 NO, I THOUGHT. MARGIN DELIVERED TO PUT SET BACK FROM THE CENTER. IS THAT TRUE? SO FOR OUR TOWNSHIP ZONING, WE REQUIRE THE APPLICATION. TO OBTAIN A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE FDA PANEL AND FROM FREQUENT COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION BEFORE OUR ZONING COMMISSION ACTUALLY CONSIDERS THE APPLICATION. THAT'S THE CHALLENGE WITH THE TIMING LITTLE BIT OF A CATCH 22, WHO GOES FIRST. AND IF I HAVE A I MAY I QUESTION FOR BEN. UH OKAY THERE. THERE HAS BEEN A BUSINESS IN THIS LOCATION BEFORE. BUT ARE THERE ANY OTHER BUSINESSES ALONG THIS STRETCH OF WALNUT STREET? I KNOW THERE'S A SCHOOL BASICALLY RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET DOWN A COUPLE 100 YARDS. AH BUT ARE THERE ANY OTHER BUSINESSES? YOU GET DOWN ALMOST DIRECTLY FOR CREEK AND YOU HAVE THE JORGENSEN BRIDAL VENUE AND I DON'T KNOW. OFFICIAL SELF PARLIAMENT. YEAH THAT'S THAT'S FURTHER DOWN THE WEST OF 605. THIS IS THE ONLY EXISTING COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY ALL THE WAY WEST TO PAST HILLER STATES AND YOU GET TO JORGENSEN AND THE NET. HARLEM ROAD IS EATING PLUMBING. AND WITH THE EXTERIOR LIGHTING TO GO NOW. THE LIGHTING MAP HERE SO YOU CAN SEE THAT WILL BE NO. WHERE YOU SEE, THERE ARE THERE ARE ZERO. TRY AND MAKE IT, YOU KNOW. FIT IN THERE AND NOT STICK OUT LIKE SOMETHING BIG. GOOD LORD. WHAT ARE AFTER THAT. AH! MIKE CHAPPELL, ER THE THREE GREAT SPACES TO THE RIGHT SIDE THERE. WHAT ARE THE WHAT ARE THOSE BUILDINGS OR, UH, SHEDS OR WHATEVER. YOU'RE NO UP ABOVE JUST STORY. TO THE YEAH, THOSE ARE THE COVERED OUTDOORS EXTERIOR STORAGE. LIKE VEHICLE TRAILERS. BOATS, OKAY. OKAY MY QUESTION IS, COULD YOU ROTATE THAT POSITION AT ALL AND PUT THE ONE STORAGE BUILDING AT THE BACK? SO THAT YOU DON'T HAVE UH, ON THE PARKSIDE. AND I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY'RE GOING TO USE THAT PART MAY BE THE PUT A BUNCH OF TREES THERE. BUT IT'S INTERESTING. YOU SAY THAT, BUT
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IT'S THIS HERE THAT IN THE BACK , SO IT'S NOT KILLING THE VISUAL AS MUCH AS SEEING SOMEBODY'S BOATS AND THAT KIND OF STUFF SITTING OUT THERE ALL YEAR ROUND. I MEAN, WE COULD DEFINITELY STUDYING BECAUSE THE ONLY THING YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT RIGHT TURN RADIUS IS AND THINGS BUT I DON'T SEE WHY. NOT THE SMARTEST GUY IN THE WORLD, RIGHT? IT KIND OF MAKES LOOK.LOOKS LIKE MAKES SENSE. JUST PUT THIS HERE. HARD IN THE MIDDLE. YOU KNOW, YOU GET IT. THE SAFETY ISSUE, RIGHT OR SOMETHING THAT YOU'VE GOT PEOPLE TRYING TO WE CAN DEFINITELY LOOK AT IT. AND WHERE WAS THE FIRE TURNED AROUND. THAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT. YEAH OFF OF ALICE DRY. OH JUST ASK THAT YOU KNOW THEY COULD HAVE SOME SORT OF CALLING HAMMERHEAD. TURN AROUND, OKAY? FIRE TRUCK HAS TO TURN AROUND. OKAY, SO THEY WOULDN'T BE BRINGING A FIRE TRUCK INTO THE FACILITY. THEY WOULD BE FROM ALICE. NO IN YOUR DRIVEWAY IF YOU HAD A FIRE THERE WITH THE FIRE TRUCK TURNING THERE, WOULD THEY GO DOWN TO ALISON? COME UP AND COME UP THAT WAY. IT WOULD.
NO YEAH, THEY COME IN HERE. SO WHERE IS HE GOING TO TURN AROUND AND THERE? IS THERE ENOUGH ROOM TO TURN THE FIRE TRUCK IN THERE? YEAH BECAUSE I MEAN, YOU CAN BRING YOU KNOW BOTH RV STORAGE BACK HERE, SO OKAY? I JUST JUST CHECKING TO MAKE SURE WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. AND THIS IS KIND OF GATE. THERE IS OFFENSE. IT'S BETTER VISION. IT MAINLY JUST BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW. AND I DON'T KNOW AGAIN. WHAT THE TOWNSHIPS REQUIREMENTS ARE WHETHER THERE IS EVEN HYDROGEN SERVICE HERE. WOULD THEY BE MAINLY RELYING ON THE POND FOR WATER FOR FIRE, EXTINGUISHING, OKAY. AND THEY DON'T REQUIRE THAT IS FREQUENT SYSTEM BASED ON THAT. THE HOURS OF OPERATION. 9 TO 6. FROM SATURDAY. WHILE WE RELEASE UP ON SUNDAYS, IT'S 10 TO 2. I BELIEVE SO. CLOSED ON SUNDAYS. AND THEN THERE'S OBVIOUSLY SPECIAL KIND OF EXEMPTIONS THAT SOMEBODY NEEDS TO GET IN OR WHATEVER THEY WERE WITH THE PROPERTY MANAGEMENT GROUP. BUT FIRST THE NORMAL OPERATION OF THE GATE. IT STOPS AFTER THOSE HOURS YOU JUST MENTIONED OR WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO COME IN IT NINE O'CLOCK IN THE EVENING? NO, NO. OKAY SPECIAL EVERYBODY. YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE MOST TRAFFIC COUNT ANY COMMERCIAL USE? UM, WHICH IS KIND OF. BIG POINT. ESPECIALLY GET THAT KIND OF THAT ROUNDABOUT . LET'S GO IN THERE. SIX OR FIVE AND ALL THAT. EXACTLY INCREASE.
ON WALL AND JUST ONE QUARTER THINGS UP. HOW TALL ARE THOSE COVERED PARKING AREAS, 25. SO WE DID ACCOMMODATE, FOR EXAMPLE, A MOTORHOME OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES, OKAY? EXACTLY WHAT YOU WERE WONDERING, TOO. YEAH. 17 I THINK, SINCE WE'RE ONE OUT OF THREE RECOMMENDING SLASH ADVISORY BOARDS, WE COULD PROBABLY ADD CONSIDERATIONS OR RECOMMENDATIONS TO OUR APPROVAL OF THAT'S THE THING THAT BOARD WISHES, SO THAT'S THE SETBACK IS A CONCERN OR IF WE WANT TO REORIENT THE ONE BUILDING TO GO FURTHER NORTH AND THE COVERED MORE CENTRAL. I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN DO. I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR BEN. BUT I JUST PROCESSES YEAH. I DON'T SEE A REASON TO COME BACK TO THAT. SO OUR BOARD CAN WE MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE NOT CONDITIONS I THINK IS KIND OF WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, TOO, IS THAT IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO AND HAVE YOU CAPTURED THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS? TYPICALLY WHAT WE SEE WITH FRANKLIN COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION ARE CONDITIONS FOR APPROVAL. UM CERTAINLY, THE BOARD IS FREE TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION AS A ADVISORY BOARD. GOOD COURSE OF ACTION. IS THE PROJECT THAT DOWN DUE TO 50. RURAL SETBACK. DEFINITELY NO. I WASN'T GOING TO SAY THAT, BUT YEAH, YEAH. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE YOUR HONESTY. SO CAN WE GO AHEAD AND DOCUMENT THAN
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WHAT WE WOULD BE ADVISING? I THINK THE ONE WAS KIND OF CHANGE THE ORIENTATION OF THE BUILDING SO THAT THE STORAGE IS ON THE EDGE OF THE PROPERTY INCLUDES LOT OF HERSELF. OF SAFETY CONCERNS OR SOMETHING. I THINK IT'S TOTALLY DOABLE, AND IT ACTUALLY MIGHT EVEN ADD A LITTLE BIT MORE SECURITY. BUILDING VERSUS OFFENSE ALONG THE BACK, OKAY, WHAT ELSE DID WE. I DON'T KNOW IF THE DEPTH OF THE POND WAS IN THE SHED. MAKE SURE THERE'S NO GROSS ALLERGY. YEAH, THE FOUNTAINS. I THINK THE HOURS OF OPERATION SHOULD BE PART OF THAT. YEAH OPEN LONGER. NO. NO WHAT YOU SAID I THOUGHT WAS VERY REASONABLE. AND I ASSUME YOU PUT THAT INTO YOUR LEASE AS WELL.CORRECT. AND I WAS ACTUALLY BE HONEST. YOU KNOW, IN THIS REALLY STUDYING IN FRONT OF THE HOURS OF OPERATION, HE WOULD KIND OF THINK THEY'D BE OPEN, ALTHOUGH LONGER, BUT THERE ESPECIALLY IN SUMMER. IT IS THE LEAST TRAFFIC. UM OKAY. VALUES. ABSOLUTELY. AND WE'RE PAYING TOO. REGULATION ROAD IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE COMING IN THE FUTURE TO WALNUT. WE'VE WORKED WITH THE CITY OF COLUMBUS. YEAH, THEY'RE THEY'RE GOOD. THE PRICE. REFLECTOR THAT POLICY. IS THAT ALL THE PLANNING HORIZON? SO THE TOWNSHIP CITY IN NEW ALBANY AND FRANKLIN COUNTY ARE WORKING WITH OH DOT CAN'T ENGINEER HAS BEEN WORKING WITH A CONSULTANT TO PREPARE THAT APPLICATION. HOPEFULLY, THIS SEPTEMBER WILL GO TO A PWC FOR FUNDING REQUEST. YOU WANT IN ST MORE THAN 65. IT IS VERY DANGEROUS. SHOULD HAVE HAD IT YEARS AGO. THE COUNTY ENGINEER DETERMINED THAT DUE TO THE VERY LOW TRAFFIC VOLUMES, FULL TRAFFIC STUDY WAS NOT REQUIRED TO TURN LANE WAS REQUIRED. THE DEVELOPER WOULD MAKE A CONTRIBUTION TO RIGHT AWAY IMPROVEMENTS. AND SPEAKING OF THAT, AND AGAIN, I'M OBVIOUSLY I'M COMING FROM A MORE URBAN AREA, BUT DOES THE TOWNSHIP REQUIRE THE DEVELOPER TO PUT IN SIDEWALKS WERE NANCHONG, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED THEM OUT HERE. NO BUT WE WILL REQUIRE AN EASEMENT FOR ANY FUTURE LEADER TRAIL BIKE TRAIL CONNECTION IN THE RIGHT OF WAY. OKAY, ADDITIONAL RIGHT AWAY. WE DON'T KNOW. SO MOST OF WALNUT STREET IS HIGHWAY EASEMENT NOT DEDICATED RIGHT AWAY. THAT'S CERTAINLY A REQUEST. WE CAN MAKE IT. THE DEVELOPER. HEY BEN, ALSO ONE OTHER QUESTION CONCERNING THE SUBDIVISION TO THE WEST.
THERE ARE DOCUMENTED THE FACT THAT THERE IS MOUNTING AND LANDSCAPING AND SO FORTH THAT WILL BE DICTATED ARE OUTLINED IN THE IN THE FINAL APPLICATION, I ASSUME AND YEAH, AND THE SETBACK WAS 50 FT FROM THE PROPERTY LINE. CORRECT OK, 35. YOU'RE AT 50, OKAY? BUT THE MOUNTING AND THE LANDSCAPING IS DICTATED TO ALSO, MAN. SO YEAH. THEY HAVE PROVIDED A LANDSCAPE PLAN SHOWING THAT. THERE'S A HAMMERHEAD TURN AROUND ON THE LEFT. OH I SEE. OKAY. WE WERE REALLY AWESOME. THEY DIDN'T WANT TO EVERYBODY OFF, YOU KNOW, SO WE REALLY TO THIS IS ALL. SO.
AND THEY'VE USED THE STRUCTURES TO PREVENT HEADLIGHTS HEADING INTO THE DEVELOPMENT. FIND IT IF I COULD MAKE A SLIGHT UH, COMMENT ON THE ARCHITECTURE. I LOVE THIS SILO. BUT YOUR OVERHANG ON THE BUILDING. IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THERE'S ANY OVERHANG AT ALL ON THE FRONT SIDE. BUT IF YOU'RE GOING WITH A AUTHENTIC BARN LOOKING THEN YOU WOULD HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF AN OVER HANG OFF THE END ABOUT THE ROOF WOULD COME OUT. WELL, I'M TALKING ABOUT LIKE ON THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING. RIGHT OKAY, WHERE YOU'RE SEEING IT FROM THE ROAD AND I THE ONES IN THE BACK.
I DON'T CARE SO MUCH ABOUT, BUT IF YOU WANT TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE A BIG BARN, WHICH IT MAKES SENSE TO ME. I WOULD THINK THAT YOU WOULD BE BETTER OFF EVEN IF IT'S YOU KNOW, FOOT 12 INCHES,
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WHATEVER. IT'S THE SAME THING. THE FOOTER 18 RIGHT HERE WELL AND ON THE FRONT. OKAY SEE WHERE IT SAYS SELF STORAGE. OKAY THAT OVERHANG THERE ON THE ROOF IF IT WERE ONLY EVEN A FOOT MORE, RATHER THAN JUST BEING RIGHT STRAIGHT UP AGAINST THE FLAT WALL WOULD MAKE IT LOOK MORE AUTHENTIC BARN MORE AUTHENTIC MORE ARCHITECT TO ADD A HAYNOS. IS THAT WHAT IT'S CALLED? A LITTLE LESS INDUSTRIAL LOOKING IF YOU HAD, YEAH, DEFINITELY. THE GOAL IS TO MAKE IT YEAH. SO YEAH, WILL INCLUDE THAT. THEN WE'LL MAKE SURE OUR MINUTES REFLECTIVELY. INCLUDE THAT OKAY ? IS THIS IS THIS KIND OF HERE? WHERE TO DRAW. YEAH, BUT THE. DIFFERENT PEOPLE DID IT DIFFERENT WAYS. SO I DIDN'T SEE ANY OBJECTIONS WITH THAT. BUT IT DID. IT BOTHERS ME TO SEE A NEW BUILDING WHERE THE ROOF COMES RIGHT UP TO THE EDGE AND IT STOPS RIGHT THERE. BECAUSE THEY NEVER BUILT BARNS THAT WAY. THEY ALWAYS HAD THE OVERHANG. BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE GUTTERS OR ANYTHING, SO THEY WANTED THE WATER APPLYING FURTHER AWAY TO KEEP IT FROM SOAKING BACK IN.YEP. REALLY CONSIDERATION. YOU DON'T BREAK IT. ONLY THE ONES WE JUST WE'VE I THINK WE'VE COVERED THOSE LISTERS. OTHERS. PROMOTIONAL, ARTICULATE. IT JUST SEEMED LIKE A GOOD IDEA OF KNOWLEDGE. AH ARE WE READY TO MAKE THINK SO? MIKE CHAPPELL. ER MOVED TO ACCEPT THIS. AH APPLICATION WITH THE PROVISION THAT OVERHANG ON THE FRONT ROOF. AH, THE RELOCATION OF THE STORAGE SPACE IS BEING MOVED IN AND THE COVERED SPACE BE MOVED TO THE BACK LINE. UM, WERE THERE ANY OTHER. THE OTHER WAY AROUND . I THINK IT WAS THAT SITTING DOWN. UH IT WAS THAT THE COVERED SPACES WITH THE NEW MORE CENTRAL INTO THE DEVELOPMENT STORAGE ENCLOSED SPACES, RIGHT? YEP. UM, THAT WAS IT. WE WANT TO DO A DEEPER POND. I CONVERTED THE HOUSE. OKAY BECAUSE FROM MY POND EXPERIENCE, A DEEPER PONDS GOING TO BE BETTER FOR YOU. YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A LOT LESS TREATMENT AND STUFF LIKE THAT. I'M SURE IT'S EVEN IN THERE. HOW DEEP IT IS. THAT'S WHAT KIND OF COMPLAINT. NO. IN FACING. PERHAPS WE CAN WORD IT JUST SAY THAT IT ALIGNS WITH WHATEVER STANDARD I DIDN'T . I DON'T KNOW RUNOFF ON WHICH CASES GOING TO DRAIN OUT. OR BECAUSE THEY MAKE THAT LOOK BLUE TO OR IF IT WAS GOING TO BE SOMETHING A YEAR ROUND TAIPAN RIGHT BECAUSE YOU'LL GET A LOT OF CATTAILS AND STUFF LIKE THAT IN THE SHOWER, RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT. FOUNDERS BECAUSE OF. YEP AND FRANKLY, MORE WATER WOULD BE A GOOD THING IF THEY NEED TO FIND A FIRE, SO I GUESS WHAT? GUESS WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS THAT THE ENGINEER SAYS WE DON'T CARE.
IT'S KIND OF TO YOU. WE SUGGEST MORE WATER. YEAH. OKAY, SO WE'RE MAKING IT A SUGGESTION, BUT NOT PART OF THE AMENDMENT. THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO ME, I THINK OKAY, SO THAT IS THAT IS A SUGGESTION FOR YOU. THAT WOULD BE A DEEPER POND. I THINK YOU'D BE HAPPIER WITH IT. BUT FOR MAINTENANCE IN THE FUTURE AND STUFF LIKE THAT, BUT WE'RE EVEN MORE DIRT, TOO. YEAH, RIGHT.
YEAH. YEP. OKAY, SO. I THINK I KNOW WHERE WE LEFT OFF ON THE MOTION. UH IT'S BEEN RECORDED. I THINK SO. YEAH YEAH, I GUESS IMPORTANT QUESTIONS TO STAFFED. UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE SAYING? YEAH. WE MAKE IT WELL, WE CAN GO FOR A SECOND THAT WILL MAKE OKAY . THINK MOTION IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO AMEND ITS SECOND THE MOTION WITH TWO IT WAS TOTAL TO WRITE RECOMMENDATIONS. OKAY, SO WE'LL
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GO AHEAD AND, UH READ THE I NEED THE ROOM, OKAY? MR CHAPPELLE EAR. YES. MISS BONNIE? YES? MR PAUL? YES. MISTER HARPER? YES. MR HERSKOWITZ? YES. MR SMITHERS? YES. MR BRUBAKER? YES. MR SELLERS? YES HAVE EIGHT VOTES IN FAVOR. THANKS GUYS. THANK YOU. YEAH YEAH. PENNZOIL SIDE. YEAH SO I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY OLD BUSINESS. SO, UM MOTION FOR ADJOURNMENT. I DO HAVE A QUESTION. I THOUGHT I HEARD I OVERHEARD SOMEBODY TALKING BEFORE THE MEETING. AH, WHEN IS IT? THAT THEY THREE. UH, DESIGNATE WITH THE CHAIRMAN OR ON THE VARIOUS. DO WE KNOW WHAT THAT IS? YEAH I BELIEVE. LAST YEAR WE WAITED UNTIL AROUND THE END OF IT. THE APRIL MEETING OR THE MAYBE EATING, SO IT'S COMING UP HERE IN THE NEXT MONTH OR TWO. OKAY. I WAS JUST CURIOUS AS TO WIN WIN. THAT WAS OKAY. THAT'S GOOD. KEEPING IT ON EVERYONE'S RADAR. APPRECIATE IT . THAT'S RIGHT. YOU KNOW, THE COLUMBUS EXPERIMENT HAS BEEN A LITTLE BIT SHAKY HERE SO THAT THAT REMINDS ME WHAT MEETING TO NOT MISS THAT. I DON'T GET IT RIGHT. YEAH YEAH. ALL RIGHT.MOTION TO ADJOURN. SOME MOVED ALL RIGHT,
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