[I. Call to order] [00:00:03] WHAT'S ROCK AND ROLL. I'M CALLING TO ORDER IN THE ABSENCE OF OUR CHAIR, MR HENSON, THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD MEETING OF MAY 8 UM AND CAN I GET A ROLL CALL, PLEASE. MR HENSON. MR EATON HERE. MR BROWN. MR DAVEY HERE. MR MALLETS. MS MOORE HERE MR STROLLER. COUNCIL MEMBER DIRECT HERE. WE HAVE FOUR MEMBERS PRESENT. WE HAVE A QUORUM. CAN COMMENTS OR [III. Action on minutes: May 8, 2023] REVISIONS TO THE MINUTES OF OUR MEETING OF MAY 8TH. AND IF NOT, CAN I GET A MOTION TO FOR APPROVAL? SO MOVED TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF ARMY MEETING. IS THERE A 2ND 2ND PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. MR STROLLER? YES MISS MORE . YES, MR DAVEY? YES? MR EATON? YES. I HAVE FOUR VOTES IN FAVOR [IV. Additions or corrections to agenda] OF THE MINUTES AS SUBMITTED. UM ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS TO OUR AGENDA? NONE FROM STAFF. UM. IF ANYONE IS HERE, WHO INTENDS TO SPEAK ON A MATTER BEFORE US TONIGHT? I COULD ASK YOU TO STAND. UM AND SIMPLY WHAT DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? EXCUSE ME. AND LET'S MOVE ON TO OUR CASE, WHICH IS RB 57 2023 A CERTIFICATE OF [V. Case] APPROPRIATENESS TO ALLOW TO NEW WALL SIGNS TO BE INSTALLED FOR RUSSIAN DIAMONDS, GIVING EVIDENCE ITALIAN PRONUNCIATION. HOPEFULLY, THAT'S APPROPRIATE. LOCATED AT 1 53 GRANVILLE STREET. CAN YOU GIVE US A STAFF REPORT? THANK YOU SAYS HE MENTIONED THIS IS A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS APPLICATION TO ACTUALLY ONCE WHILE SCIENCE REINSTALLED KOSKI DIAMONDS LOCATED AT 1 53 GRANVILLE STREET. JUST TO KIND OF HELP. EVERYONE UH, LOCATE WHERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT. SO THIS RIGHT HERE IS DUBLIN, GRANVILLE ROAD OR GRANVILLE STREET HERE. WE'VE GOT THE POST OFFICE DOWN HERE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE, AS WELL AS EVERYONE'S FAVORITE PLACE TO EAT OUT FRUIT OPERATE HERE, SO THE BUILDING IS LOCATED JUST TO THE WEST OF THE BREW DOG SITE RIGHT HERE AND THE ROSE RUN PARK IS LOCATED HERE. SO AFTER THE APPLICATION AFTER THE STAFFER, PROGRESS PUBLISHED AND THE PACKETS WERE SENT OUT TO THE BOARD, THE APPLICANT DID SUBMIT A REVISED PLAN TO ADDRESS CONDITION OF APPROVAL NUMBER TWO THAT'S LISTENING TO STAFF REPORT . SO THIS IMAGE HERE'S WHAT WAS SENT TO UNION PACKETS. THE SECOND IMAGE HERE ADDRESSES THE SECOND CONDITIONER STAFF REPORT, WHICH IS WELL BASES PRESENTATION ON THE APPLICANTS PROPOSING TO NEW WALL SIGNS FOR THIS BUILDING , SO ONE OF THE WALL SIGNS WILL BE LOCATED ON THE NORTHERN ELEVATION OR THE GRANVILLE ST ELEVATION. HERE IT IS THE SMALLER SIGN OF THE TWO THE SIGN ON THE EASTERN ELEVATION OF THE BUILDING. THIS IS IF YOU'RE DRIVING WEST ON GRANVILLE STREET TOWARDS THE AMBER THEATER AND TOWARDS THE NOMINEE SCHOOL CAMPUS. THIS IS THE ELEVATION OF THE DAUGHTER THAT YOU TYPICALLY SEE. THERE'S ALSO ONE WALL SIGN PROPOSED FOR THE ELEVATION AS WELL. IN TERMS OF MEETING ALL CODE REQUIREMENTS. THE APPLICATION IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE VARIOUS WORK GARMENTS THAT WE HAVE FOR SIGNS IN OUR CITY CODE, INCLUDING AREA. THE NUMBER OF COLORS THAT NUMBER THE MAXIMUM LETTERING LETTERING. HEIGHT IS ALL ALL THOSE REQUIREMENTS ARE BEING MET. THERE ARE A COUPLE OF NOTES OR WE DO. ASK THE AIR B TO EVALUATE THE APPROPRIATENESS OF SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE PROPOSED FOR THESE SIGNS. THE FIRST ONE IS THE COLOR OF THE SIGN BOARD PANEL, SO TYPICALLY BY AND LARGE IN NEW ALBANY. WE SEE THE BACKGROUND, COLOR OF SIGN PANELS CHOSEN TO KIND OF SORT OF THE SAME KIND OF BLEND INTO THE ARCHITECTURE A LITTLE BIT ORIGINALLY APPLICANT PROPOSED THIS WHITE SIGN HERE THAT YOU SEE ON THE TOP AND WHAT YOU SEE ILLUSTRATED ON THE RENDERINGS HERE. WE DID ASK THE APPLICANT TO PROVIDE A DARKER COLOR OPTIONS SO THAT THE BOARD COULD EVALUATE THE APPROPRIATENESS. BETWEEN EACH COLOR. UH BASED ON SOME OF THE EXISTING SIGNS THAT ARE IN THE VILLAGE CENTER. WE DID THINK THAT USING THE BLACK COLOR WOULD BE MORE APPROPRIATE . BUT WE DEFER TO YOU GUYS TO MAKE THAT DECISION, AND WE KNOW THAT THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO USE THE WHITE COLLAR WILL LET THEM TALK ABOUT THOSE REASONS HERE IN A MINUTE. THE SECOND ITEM THAT WE CAUGHT YOUR ATTENTION WAS THE LOCATION OF THE SIGN. SPECIFICALLY THE LOCATION OF THE SIGN ON THE EASTERN ELEVATION. ORIGINALLY IT'S KIND OF HARD TO PUT A SIGN ON ONE OF THESE ORDER THIS ORDER HOMES AND MAKE IT KIND OF FIT IN THE SPACE WHERE SIGN WAS, YOU KNOW, NEVER ORIGINALLY CONTEMPLATED, AS WAS, YOU KNOW, SERVED AND FUNCTIONED AS A HOME. ORIGINALLY THE SAME KIND OF WHAT [00:05:04] WE CALL FLOATED ON THIS, YOU KNOW, WHICH MEANS THE 1ST AND 2ND STORY WINDOWS HERE. WE ASKED THE APPLICANT TO YOU PROVIDE AN IMAGE SHOWING ASSIGNED TO BE ENLARGED SO THAT FITS WITHIN THE FRAME OF THE OUTSIDE FRAMES OF THE SECOND STORY WINDOW HERE AND THEN THE OUTSIDE STORY ARE THE OUTSIDE FRAME OF THIS FIRST STORY WINDOW HERE. SO THEY DID INCREASE THE SIGN THE SIZE OF THE SIGNS SLIGHTLY IN ORDER TO MEET THAT CONDITION OF APPROVAL . THAT SECOND CONDITION OF APPROVAL IN THE STAFF REPORT HAS NOW MET. OVERALL AS YOU MENTIONED AS I'VE ALREADY MENTIONED, WE DO ASK THAT THE AIR B TO EVALUATE THE APPROPRIATENESS OF THE PROPOSED COLORS AS WELL AS THE POSITION OF DESIGN. THERE IS ONE ADDITIONAL SINUS PROPOSED, AND THAT'S THE TEMPORARY COMMERCIAL CONSTRUCTION SIGN INDICATING THE OPENING DATE OF THE BUSINESS. THE THEIR SPECIFIC SIGN REGULATIONS IN OUR CODE FOR THIS TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION SCIENCE THAT WILL ALSO BE REQUIRED TO BE MET AS A PART OF THIS APPLICATION, HAPPY TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS. UM SO THE NORMALLY WE DON'T SEE. TEMPORARY SIGNS THAT'S CORRECT. AND FOR THE QUESTION IS, IS THERE ANY PARTICULAR REASON WE NEED TO SEE IT HERE? YOU. DEAL WITH TEMPORARY SIGNS CORRECT. IT WAS JUST INCLUDED ON THE APPLICATION TYPICALLY WOULD HANDLE THOSE ADMINISTRATIVELY IF IT DIDN'T COMPLY WITH 11 69 TENDENCY YOU DEAL CORRECT OR THEY NEED TO REQUEST THE LABOR TO COME BACK TO SUPPORT KIND OF WE'RE KIND OF WE'RE KIND OF ICING DECAY CORRECT. UM. TEMPORARY SIDE ISSUES IN THE PAST WITH GOING WAY BEYOND. SO IS THAT A CONCERN? THERE IS THERE IS THERE STOPPING THE CODE THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE IT COMES DOWN? YES SO TYPICALLY WHAT WE DO NOW AND BUSINESS BUILDING HAS GIVEN FINAL OCCUPANCY. UM OR IN THIS CASE ONCE A SIGN IS INSTALLED IN THIS CASE, IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT BECAUSE THE SIGN WILL BE INSTALLED, BUT THEY'RE ALSO BE ACTIVE CONSTRUCTION HAPPENING WITHIN THE BUILDING, POTENTIALLY ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING AS WELL, DEPENDING ON WHAT THE SCOPE OF WORK IS. SO TYPICALLY WHEN, WHEN THERE IS AN OPEN BUILDING PERMIT, WE'RE ABLE TO KIND OF LINE THEM UP SO THAT WE GO TO THAT FINAL OCCUPANCY, ESPECIALLY REMIND THE CONTRACTOR THAT SCIENCE TO COME DOWN AND WE CAN FOLLOW UP. UM ACCORDING LAYERS, AND HE DID AND YOU DON'T GIVE THEM THE OCCUPANCY FOR MENTAL. THEY TAKE IT DOWN. WE DO STILL HAVE THE ARCHITECT SEEP. REMEMBER WE FOLLOW UP? YES THEY WONDER WHETHER YOU WILL, YES. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU . LOOK IS THERE ANY SO I GUESS OBVIOUSLY WE'VE HEARD THE STAFF REPORT IS THE APPLICANT ONE OF SAY ANYTHING TO SUPPLEMENT THAT OR IT AND ALSO, IF YOU WANT TO MAKE THE ARGUMENT IN TERMS OF YOU LIKE THE WHITE SIGN VERSUS THE BLACK SIGN, I'M HAPPY TO HEAR THAT. AND SECRET NAME IF YOU CAN. ALL RIGHT. SO YEAH. WHAT ARE THE THINGS THAT DEFINITELY GOT MORE THAN TONIGHT ? FOR SURE. VASCULAR PROJECT ON TOP. LAST MONTH. AND SEWING WITH . DRAWINGS TO SPEAK SO VERY GOOD. FROM THAT STANDPOINT. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU CAN SEE HERE. I WAS LIKE. THAT'S THE FIRST THING YOU SEE. OKAY? HOWEVER WHAT BUILDING THEY'RE FLOATING. MAYBE YOU GUYS YOURSELF. DID YOU KNOW THAT? OVER THE YEARS. DO YOU KNOW I'VE BEEN DOING IN TOWN. 5 MILLION WALK GPS. RIGHT? SO WHY HAVEN'T IMPORTANT TO KNOW? IT'S A THE UNDERTAKING THAT I. YOU CAN GOOGLE ME OR 200 BUCKS STAR REVIEWS WE'VE BEEN HOLDING JULIA'S SO THAT'S THE SECOND POINT DOWN THE LINE THAT I'M NOT RADIO AND JEWELRY, SO I KNOW THAT'S NOT WHAT I DO. NOT ONLY EASTERN, YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT THE EXPERIENCE OF PEOPLE ARE GETTING BUT, YOU KNOW, APPOINTMENT ONLY. FOR ME VERY SEE THAT PERSONAL I CAN'T SEE THAT LEFT. I CAN'T SEE A REPORT. AND WHY I WANT TO TAKE IT. OUTSIDE SIGNAGE OF OBVIOUSLY WITH THIS TIME YOU KNOW, PAYING AWARD. I MEAN THE CLOCK. AND WITH THE OPPORTUNITY OF BEING NEXT DOOR SECOND IS DESTROYED. SO ONE OF THE SIGNS UP THERE. BUT THE WAY. MESSY BUSINESS STUFF THROUGH HERE ALL THE TIME. I DON'T NEED THAT. GOING FURTHER CONDUCTED A WIDER FIRES. IF WE'RE WAITING. FOR TALKING TO BLACK. I REALLY DON'T WORSHIP [00:10:03] AGAIN YEARS I'VE HAD THE SAME KIND OF UNDER THAT SAME TYPE OF FIRST CHOICE QUESTIONS. YES. YEAH. YOU HAVE A PRESIDENT INTENT ON WHAT YOU DO WITH THE EXTERIOR COLOR WHEN YOU FINISH YOUR WHATEVER WORKING THIS MORNING LIKE I WANTED YOU WHITE WHITE. TODAY AGAIN SIX PEOPLE SO . WALKING AWAY TODAY THAT I'M NOT SURE. AGREE THAT YOU WANT ME TO DO THAT. I WANT TO BE IN A COLLABORATIVE NOW. BUT THE POINT IS TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, AND IT'S LIKE YOU WANT TO HOLD WHITE BLAIR. WAS WHAT WE THOUGHT ABOUT ONE OF YOU, WHITE OR BLACK TRIP. HE WAS CHECKING IN TO SEE WHAT THE CAUSE WITH THAT STUFF FOR ME TODAY AGAIN SINCE, HOWEVER, ALL. ULTIMATELY, THAT'S ONE OF THE. OTHER MALES OUT HERE. I THOUGHT WE ACTUALLY HAVE THEM SALARIES. NOT SOMETHING I'M TRYING FOR. OKAY? THAT'S YOUR QUESTION DOES THANK YOU. PROPOSED TO THAT. THE BOARD, BUT I GUESS I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE SAYING THAT THE WHITE BACKGROUND IS YOUR TYPICAL LOGO LIKE THAT'S HOW YOU'RE SAYING OKAY? YES I HAVE NO ISSUE WITH IT. I THINK THE BLACK MIGHT STAND OUT MORE, ESPECIALLY IF YOU DO WHITE. BUT IF THAT'S YOUR LOGO AND YOUR COLORS, I COMPLETELY GET IT. BUT YOU MIGHT WANT TO DO A STUDY AND JUST LOOK AT THE TWO AND DECIDE BUT IF NOT, I THINK THE WHITE IS FINE. UM ONE QUESTION, I GUESS FOR THE BOARD IS IF WE END UP THEN WITH WHITE AND WE GET THE WHITE SIGNED, WE WANT TO PUT A BORDER. THAT WAS MY NEXT QUESTION IS GOING TO HAVE A BLACK BORDER. WE HAVE SOME OF THE OTHER EXAMPLES WITH WHERE WE GET TO THE WHITE. SERIOUS ABSOLUTELY EXACTLY WHAT I WANT TO DO. I MEAN, IF, UM SO THAT BASICALLY THERE'S A GUESS WE CAN'T ADD COLORS WE WOULD DO A BLACK BORDER. UM WHICH WOULD THEN BE CONSISTENT, SO MAYBE MAYBE WE SIMPLY ADD THAT NOW? YEAH AND ANY ANY ANY GUIDANCE FROM STAFF IN TERMS OF HOW WIDE THE BORDERS ARE TYPICALLY UH, WE CAN FIND OUT AND COORDINATE WITH, UH, ALSO OBJECT SUBJECT TO STAFF. YEAH I WOULD SAY SO. I GUESS WHAT WE'RE THINKING OF ABUSE AGAIN, ADDING THE BLACK OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A LINE AROUND HERE IT IS OVER. THE SIGN IS WE WOULD DO A HORSE. GOT IT? YEAH WE'VE DONE THAT ELSEWHERE IN THE CITY. I'M IN DIFFERENT WHITE, SO I'M NOT. I DON'T THINK NECESSARILY YES. SO MY ONLY QUESTION COMMENT WOULD BE ON THE NORTH. ELEVATION FOR AN ELEVATION IS THE YEAH, I UNDERSTAND PLACING THE SIGN. THERE'S NOT REALLY A LOT OF OPTIONS FOR WHERE IT CAN GO. IT'S JUST IT STARTS TO GET PRESSED INTO THAT SPACE. IT'S JUST PRETTY MINIMAL INTO INSTEAD OF HAVING A LITTLE BREATHING ROOM AROUND THE SIDE, AND THEY MIGHT JUST BE A RENDERED ELEMENT. IT REALLY JUST FEELS LIKE THE WINDOW IN THE ROOF, AND THE SIGNS ARE ALL ONE ELEMENT. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE A LITTLE BREATHING ROOM BETWEEN THEM. SIGN. YOU'RE SAYING, YEAH. JUST TRYING. TO COMING FROM AROUND THAT TIME. LIKE I SAID, I LIKE THEODORE. CHANGE YOUR LOCATION IS GOING TO CHANGE THINGS UP FRONT TOGETHER. AND IF WE PUT IT IF WE PUT A BORDER THERE, AT LEAST THEY'LL BE VISUAL. YEAH VISUAL DISTINCTION AROUND AROUND BOTH THE TOP AND WHEN YOU HANG A MIRROR, YOU WANT A LITTLE BREATHING ROOM WITH THE BOTTOM. WHEN IT'S DONE WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE THAT IT DOES GET THAT INITIAL TAKE LIKE SOMETHING'S OFF. THAT WOULD. THAT WOULD JUST BE MY ONLY COMMENT, BUT IT DIDN'T ACTUALLY HAVE OVER THERE. RIGHT THAT'S WHERE IT CAN BE JUST YEAH, YOU HAVE TO DO SOMETHING HERE ANYWAY. REALLY WANT TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT WHAT AROUND OF THE FRAME AND. AT LEAST I'M GUESSING IT'S NOT MEASURED PERFECTLY BASED ON THE RENDER. SO IF THOSE BOARDS ARE 4 TO 5 INCHES. I THINK THERE'S POTENTIALLY 15 INCHES IN THE SITE. 12 INCHES STILL HAPPEN WILL SIMPLY SAY THAT AS AS AS MOUNTED AT LEAST AN INCH ON THE BOTTOM AND THE TOP AND THEN IF IT ALREADY HAS THAT, FINE BECAUSE YOU GOT IT SOUNDS LIKE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS MAYBE THEY HAVE THREE INCHES. YEAH, I MEAN, THAT SOUNDS NO. BUT ITS FIRST LOCATION IN WHAT LOCATIONS, LOCATION AND. ANYTHING ELSE FROM THE BOARD BACK TO THE SIGN [00:15:02] COLOR. WHAT'S WHAT WAS STAFFS, REASONING FOR THE BLACK SO IT WASN'T NECESSARILY BLACK PER SE. IT WAS JUST A DARKER UM, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, I THINK, AS JASON HAS MENTIONED THE WAY ON THE T INSIDE, IT WAS A LITTLE YOU KNOW. BUT LACK OF BETTER WORDS, START PLACEMAT IN TERMS OF COLOR DIFFERENCES, SO WE JUST SIMPLY ASKED THEM TO KIND OF EXPLORE A DARKER BACKGROUND COLOR WE'VE USED IN ALBANY BLUE EXCHANGE. THERE'S BEEN SEVERAL OTHER, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE BIT DARKER COLORS AND JUST PURE WHITE. SO LET'S JUST KIND OF TYPICAL WHAT WE FIND IN NEW ALBANY. UM. SOMEBODY WANT TO TRY A MOTION. GO AHEAD. UM. MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE PARTICULAR PREFERENCE FOR APPLICATION ORB THE X 57 DAYS 2020. 2023 WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS. UM. NUMBER ONE. THE PROPOSED WALL SIGN MUST HAVE A BLACK BORDER THAT IS SUBJECT TO STAFF APPROVAL. THE EASTERN TELEVISION ASSIGN, UM, SHOULD BE POSITIONED AS PRESENTED THIS EVENING IN THE UPDATED RENDERINGS. AND SIZE OF THE SIGN. NUMBERS. THREE REQUIREMENTS OF 11 69 10 C MUST BE MET PROPOSED TEMPORARY COMMERCIAL CONSTRUCTION SIGN AND THEN FOR UM THE EASTERN LEVEL IZATION. UM NORTH. I'M SORRY. NORTHERN ELEVATION. THANK YOU MUST BE AMOUNT OF AT LEAST ONE INCH ABOVE. THE WINDOW LINE. THE WINDOW AND WHAT ELSE BELOW ON THE ROOF LINE. JUST SOME SOME RELIEF. VISUALLY. AND I WILL SECOND THAT MHM COLOR. YES YOU DIDN'T MENTION COLOR COLOR ON THE. DIDN'T MENTION THE COLOR THAT YOU'RE APPROVED. OF THE BORDER. BUT, UM INTERESTING QUESTION. I MEAN, I GUESS I GUESS I DO THIS. I GUESS I VIEW THIS AS AS THE ON HERE. IT'S WHITE. THERE'S AN OPTIONAL. OKAY APPROVING THE WIFE JUST SO IT'S CLEAR THAT HE CAN DO A WHITE SIGN. AMEND NUMBER ONE TO SAY, UM THE PROPOSED WALL SIGN. MAYBE WHITE BACKGROUND BUT HAVE A BORDER. SUBJECT TO STAFF APPROVAL. BLACK BORDERS BACKWARDS. THANK YOU. CALL THE ROLL. MR STROLLER? YES. MR EATON ? YES, MR DAVEY? YES? MS MOORE? YES, I HAVE FOUR VOTES IN FAVOR OF THE CERTIFICATE WITH THE CONDITIONS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. BRIAN. ALRIGHT. I'M GLAD TO KNOW YOU'RE HERE. YEAH REALLY? SERIOUSLY IS THERE ANY OTHER BUSINESS [VI. Other business] TONIGHT? FROM STAFF. I'M SORRY. UM. UM I MEAN, IF YOU'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THE BOARD PLEASE. SIX QUARTER ZERO. NO ONE I LIKE. TO JUST CHILD. FIVE ACRES THERE. ALSO WHAT COMES. HIS SWORD. ONE SOUTH. FOUR DAYS. THANK YOU. THIS AMOUNT. EXCLUSIVE. SOME. EXCEPTION. AT LEAST SOME UNDERSTAND. SUBDIVISION. ST. PROBLEMS LAND. YOUR SHOPPING GLADIATORS. HIM SMALL ONES. ESSENTIALLY. APPLICATION. OH, OKAY. AND HE'S BECOME CERTAIN SYSTEMS. BECAUSE WE ARE. SENSES [00:20:19] IS SEVEN AND SEVEN. SO REALLY, WHAT I'M ASKING IS TWO THINGS. SOME CONSIDERATION IN THIS NOT PLEASE. IN PLACE BY DEFINITION. KEEP EVERYTHING ANIMAL YOU DON'T IF WE ARE. TAXES ON THIS PROBLEM. EVERY STORY. YOU STILL THERE? RIGHT NEXT TO WORLD MARKET REDS HOUSES. UM THAT WAS SO THE TAXES ON THIS 4.82 ACRES INCREASE. THE ON SITE. RECOGNIZED. ESSENTIALLY FOR SOME CONSIDERATION. THAT'S TRUE. GIVE ITSELF REALLY? IN THE SUBDIVISION THERE. LAST YEAR'S I NEED SOMETHING. OBVIOUSLY. YES. HAS TO WHAT KIND OF PAPER. FOR ME. ABSOLUTELY. WHAT WE WANT. I CAN FIND IF YOU WANT TO. SO WE ALREADY. FOR ME TO ASK FOR WHAT WE. SO LET ME LET ME JUST RESPOND. I THINK WE'RE NOT THE BOARD. I UNDERSTAND. I THINK IT'S THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS THAT CORRECT? VICTIMS BECAUSE IT'S SO UM THIS IS GOOD PRACTICE. BUT MY ADVICE MY ADVICE TO YOU WOULD BE TO WORK WITH STAFF. THE DEVELOPMENT STAFF. OKAY AND I THINK, BUT I THINK UNLESS UNLESS YOU SEE A RB JURISDICTIONAL ISSUE, I DON'T THINK ANY OF THIS IS US. I THINK I THINK ALL OF ALL OF WHAT YOU'RE ASKING WOULD BE PLANNING COMMISSION AND IT WOULD NOT BE WITHIN OUR JURISDICTION. WE WILL , WE WOULD GET WE MIGHT OR MIGHT NOT GET INVOLVED IN TERMS OF WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE, DEPENDING ON WHETHER YOU NEED VARIANCES. BUT IN TERMS OF WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE, IF YOU'RE NOT NEEDING A VARIANCE, WE DON'T OUR JURISDICTION DOESN'T GO OUT THERE. UM SO I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S ANYTHING HERE. THAT THIS BOARD CAN DO OTHER THAN TO SAY IT WAS GOOD PRACTICE TO MAKE THE PITCH. UH BUT BUT I THINK IT I THINK I WOULD WORK WITH STAFF IN TERMS OF THEN WHEN YOU COULD HAVE DRESS OR WHAT? HOW YOU WOULD PUT SOMETHING BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION BECAUSE I THINK. I DON'T KNOW WHEN THEY MEET, BUT THEY DON'T THEY DON'T NEED ON THE SECOND MONDAY OF THE MORNING. YEAH YEAH, OTHER THAN THE FACT THAT THEY MEET MORE THAN WE DO, WHICH IS ONE REASON I'M ON THIS BOARD. YEAH. YEAH, BUT RIGHT? NO NO, I'M HAPPY THAT I DIDN'T WANT TO INTERRUPT, BUT I DIDN'T WANT YOU HAVE TO GO TOO DEEPLY. BECAUSE BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHY NOT PRACTICE AND THEN THAT WAY, YOU'RE READY TO GO NEXT TIME. JUST JUST AS POINT OF REFERENCE TO HELP GREG OUT IS THAT IF PLANNING COMMISSION DOES MEET NEXT MONDAY CORRECT? YES WOULD HE BE ABLE TO BE ON THE AGENDA? OR WOULD HE HAVE TO BE A WALK IN ITEM SINCE THE SCHEDULE AND AGENDAS ARE USUALLY MADE UP IN ADVANCE? JUST SO HE UNDERSTANDS? YES IF YOU JUST WANTED TO HAVE, LIKE AN INFORMAL DISCUSSION LIKE YOURS TONIGHT, YOU COULD CERTAINLY SHOW UP AND BE HERE ON OTHER BUSINESS, WHICH IS AT THE END OF THE MEETING. UM BUT MORE FORMAL APPLICATIONS LIKE WE DISCUSSED THAT WERE DISCUSSED WITH YOU IN THE PAST AND TERMS OF PLANTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE SUBMITTED. UM, YOU KNOW THAT APPROPRIATE TIMETABLE TO BE ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION AGENDA. GOTCHA. NOW GLAD. GLAD TO HAVE GIVEN YOU A CHANCE. THANK YOU FOR ADDRESSING US AND SORRY THAT THERE WAS NO RELIEF WE CAN OFFER OTHER THAN DOING WHAT? WISH YOU LUCK IN YOUR ENDEAVORS. YOU'RE RIGHT AND FEEL FREE TO KEEP IN TOUCH WITH ME TO ABOUT ABOUT THIS. YEAH, WE CAN DEFINITELY KEEP TALKING. ANY OTHER BUSINESS. RIGHT IF NOT, I WILL PULL MEMBERS FOR COMMENT. I MISSED THE GUIDING HAND OF MR CHAIRMAN HINTS UNJUST. WELL WHAT YOU KNOW. ANY OTHER COMMENTS DID A GREAT JOB. THANK YOU. WELL DONE. IF AND OF COURSE WE ARE. [00:25:09] WELL WARMLY WELCOME. COUNCIL MEMBER DIRECT. NICE TO SEE YOU BE BACK FOR A SHORT TIME. SO IF HAVING ANOTHER BUSINESS CAN WE GET CAN I GET A MOTION TOWARD JOURNEY? JUST SAY I MOVED THROUGH. I MOVED TO ADJOURN. IS THERE A 2ND 2ND? PLEASE CALL THE ROLL, MR DAVEY. YES. MS MOORE? YES, MR STROLLER? YES, YES. FOUR VOTES IN FAVOR * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.