[00:00:05] ALRIGHT, FOLKS, WE'RE AT TIME I WANTED TO GET STARTED. WELCOME BACK TO STAFF. WELCOME BACK TO THE COUNCIL WELCOME. OUR GUEST TONIGHT. AND WELCOME TO ALL OUR GUESTS IN THE AUDIENCE STRAIGHT WE HAVE ACTUALLY MET SINCE MARCH OF THIS YEAR, SO IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE WE LAST MET, SO UM, [I. Call to order] CULTURE ORDER, SO I'D LIKE TO CALL THE ORDER. THE BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS MEETING IN JUNE 26TH AT SEVEN PM IN THE CLERK. PLEASE READ THE ROLL CALL. MR FLASHINESS. YES MR JACOB, PRESIDENT. MS SAMUELS PRESIDENT , MR SMITH, PRESIDENT. MR SCHELL PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER BRISK PRESENT. ALL VOTING MEMBERS ARE PRESENT. WE HAVE A QUORUM. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT UM, FIRST [III. Action on minutes ] ORDER OF BUSINESS IS ACTION OF MINUTES STATED BACK ON. MARCH 26 OR 27, I BELIEVE DO WE HAVE ANY UPDATES OR CORRECTIONS TO LAST OUR MARCHES? MONTHS MINUTES. MR CHAIRMAN. I MOVE TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR THE MARCH 27TH MEETING OF THE BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS. I'LL SECOND THAT THANK YOU. MR JACOB? YES MR GROGGINESS ? YES SAMUELS? YES, MR SMITH? YES. MR SCHELL? YES. FIVE VOTES IN FAVOR OF THE MINUTES AS SUBMITTED. OKAY. THANK YOU. STAFF ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR [IV. Additions or corrections to agenda ] CORRECTIONS TO THE AGENDA TONIGHT? STAFFORD REQUEST THAT WE ADD THE ANNUAL ORGANIZATIONAL MEETING ITEMS UNDER OTHER BUSINESS. OKAY? TWITTER VOTE ON THAT TO HAVE TO PROVE THAT OR NO, I DON'T BELIEVE SO. OKAY. SOUNDS GOOD. THANK YOU. OKAY OUR FIRST ORDER TODAY IS VARIANTS. [VI. Cases] 61 203 VARIANCE IS TO ALLOW IT DETACHED GARAGE TO ENCROACH ALMOST 12 FT INTO THE REAR STEP BACK OF YEAH, LIKE 30 FT, BASED ON THE CITY CODIFIED ORDINANCE CHAPTER. SO UM. SUMAR APPLICANTS ARE HAIR TOPIC. YOU'RE HERE, UM, IN ORDER FOR YOU TO SPEAK TO BE SWORN IN. HE HAD SCOTT HAROLD. BOTH RISE, PLEASE. RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. PRODUCE WEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY COULD WE HAVE STAFF REPORT, PLEASE? EVENING. UM THIS APPLICANT REQUESTS A VARIANCE TO ALLOW A DETACHED GARAGE TO ENCROACH APPROXIMATELY 12 FT INTO THE 30 FT REAR YARD SETBACK AND 44 33 STEP, BRO. AS YOU CAN SEE, THE PROPERTY CONTAINS A SINGLE FAMILY HOME. MM HMM. AND . IT IS LOCATED WITHIN THE NEW ALBANY COUNTRY CLUB SECTION FIVE. IT IS EAST OF U. S ROUTE 62 ON JOHNSTOWN ROAD, AND ALL OF THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES ARE RESIDENTIAL ZONE. THIS PROPERTY HAS A 30 FT REAR YARD SETBACK. AND SINCE IT IS A CORNER LOT CAN SEE FROM HOMESTEAD BRODER'S TOWARDS THE FRONT AND TO THE SIDE IS ASPIRIN. OH WALL STREET. THERE WERE THE 30 FEBRUARY YARD SETBACK HIGHLIGHTED AND BREAD APPLAUSE TO THE DETACHED, UH, APPLIES TO THE 30. FT REWRITE SETBACK. AND THE HIGHLIGHTED IN THE ORANGE IS THE DETACHED GARAGE. IF THE LOT WAS NOT A CORNER, LOT EXPERIENCE WOULD NOT BE NECESSARY AND THE LOCATION WOULD BE PERMISSIBLE IF THIS WAS CONSIDERED A SIDE YARD. THE PROPOSED GARAGE SETBACK AS AT A MINIMUM OF 18 FT THREE INCHES BECAUSE OF THE BUMP OUT AND THE BACKS IS 21 FT. THREE INCHES. OTHERWISE IT MEETS ALL ZONING REGULATIONS THAT LITTLE BUMP OUT RIGHT HERE TOWARDS CLOSEST TO THE REAR. SO THAT WOULD BE THE LITTLE ONE. THAT WOULD BE THE 18 . AND THEN THESE BUMPS RIGHT HERE. THAT'S WHEN HE LEFT. OKAY YEAH. ALSO, THE PROPOSED DETACHED GARAGE CANNOT BE SOLVED BY ANOTHER MANNER BECAUSE IT IS NOT INTO BE PARALLEL WITH THE EXISTING GARAGE AND PAPER DRIVEWAY. THE DISTANCE OF THE DETACHED GARAGE FROM THE NEIGHBORING LINE IS ABOUT 18 FT . IN ORDER TO ALLOW SUFFICIENT MANEUVERABILITY IN AND OUT OF BOTH GARAGES AND USE IT UTILIZES THE EXISTING TRAFFIC LEG. FURTHERMORE THE PROPOSED GARAGE DOESN'T ALTER THE ESSENTIAL CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE OF THE PROPOSED MATERIALS, WHICH MIRROR THE [00:05:02] EXISTING HOME. THE EXTERIOR WALLS MATCH THE EXISTING EXTERIOR OF THE HOME WITH A WHITE LAP SLIDING AND A BRICK WATER TABLE. SIMILARLY THE HEIGHT OF THE PROPOSED GARAGE MATCHES THE CURRENT ATTACHED GARAGE. FINALLY THIS PROJECT DOESN'T APPEAR TO BE SUBSTANTIAL BECAUSE THE DETACHED GARAGE IS SCREENED FROM THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY BY AN EXISTING TALK HARBOR. VAIDI HEDGE GROW A SHORT BREAK HERE AND THE LEFT HAND SIDE. EVEN THOUGH THE DETACHED GARAGE IS CLOSER TO THE PROPERTY LINES AND CODE ALLOWS THE EXISTING LANDSCAPE PROVIDES A BUFFER BETWEEN THE PROPERTIES. ADDITIONALLY THE AREA WHERE THE GARAGE APPROACHES THIS EFFECT IS WHERE THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES GARAGES LOCATED, SO IT'S ADJACENT, SO IT'S NOT ADJACENT TO A LITTLE LIVING SPACE. SEEN HERE AND THESE ORANGE LINES AND THE ARROWS POINTING WHERE LIKE THIS IS CURRENTLY EXISTING AT THIS TIME STAFF CAN TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. MOTION TO ACCEPT STAFFS RECORDS INTO SORT OF REPORTING TO RECORD SECOND. I'M SORRY, MOVED TO SESSION. SECOND BY MS SAMUELS. CORRECT. MR SMITH ? YES SAMUELS? YES MR SCHELL? YES MR LOGAN S. YES MR. JACOB YES. FIVE VOTES IN FAVOR OF THE DOCUMENTS MOTION. THANK YOU. STEVENS HERE. HAVE WE HEARD ANYTHING FROM THE NEIGHBORS? WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY CORRESPONDENCE FOR QUESTIONS FROM NEIGHBORS. I GUESS WE DID RECEIVE ONE CALL, BUT IT WAS JUST QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS. DO WE KNOW IF THE NEIGHBORS ARE AWARE OF THIS POTENTIAL REQUESTS? YES SO WE SENT LETTERS TO ALL NEIGHBORS WITHIN 200 FT OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY 10 DAYS PRIOR TO THIS MEETING. MR. PARKER, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME ON. HELLO UM I DON'T REALLY HAVE MUCH TO ADD TO. SIERRA'S REPORT IS VERY CONCISE AND THROW. THE ONLY THING I CAN SUGGEST IS THERE ARE PRECEDENTS FOR DETACHED GARAGES IN THE SAME AREA. AND IT LOOKS LIKE AT THE CORNERS OF HOMESTEAD AND BOWLING IN THE CORNER OF HOMESTEAD AND BUILD MORE COURT. THERE ARE DETACHED GARAGES THAT APPEAR TO BE CLOSER TO THAT. PROPERTY LINE THAN WHAT WE'RE EVEN SHOWING. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THOSE EXACT DIMENSIONS ARE. BUT THERE IS PRESIDENT IN THE COMMUNITY. AND THERE ARE OTHER DETACHED GARAGES ON ASPEN MALL AROUND THE CORNER FROM 44 33 HOMESTEAD ROAD. AND OF COURSE, WE DID GET A PRELIMINARY APPROVALS FROM THE AGE OF A ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE, SO THEY'RE ON BOARD WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE. SO ANY QUESTIONS, MR PARKER, YOU REFERENCED, UM OTHERS IN THE AREA GENERAL VICINITY CLOSE BY. ARE THEY SIMILAR IN THE CONTEXT OF BEING A CORNER A LOT, OR ARE THEY VOTE LINK AND OLMSTEAD AND BILTMORE COURT OR BOTH CORNER LOTS. YES, THANK YOU. DO WE KNOW IF WE GRANTED ANY PARENTS IS SIMILAR TO THIS. SO WE STOPPED AT A QUICK SEARCH OF OUR HISTORY . WE'RE AWARE OF ONE OTHER DETACHED GARAGE THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE BC A ON A BEACH OR COURT BACK IN 2015 OR 16, I BELIEVE, AND THEN WE HAVE FOUND ONE OTHER CASE THAT WASN'T FOR A GARAGE, BUT IT WAS FOR A DETACHED POOL HOUSE WHERE IT WAS ALSO A CORNER. LOTS AND SETBACK WAS APPROVED. UM FOREIGN ENCROACHMENT. AND I'M SORRY, AND THAT WAS AN EVERINGTON. AND I GUESS THE ONLY OTHER THING I WOULD ADD, AND STEVE MIGHT BE ABLE TO CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. IT WASN'T THE SETBACK. RECENTLY CHANGED IN THE LAST FEW CODE UPDATES TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THAT 30 FT REAR YARD ON THE CORNER LOT. DIDN'T IT USED TO BE 10 FT FOR DETACHED STRUCTURES. I BELIEVE WE DID INCREASE THE SETBACKS FOR DETACHED STRUCTURES , AND THAT'S FOR EVERYTHING FROM POOL HOUSES, TWO GARAGES, ANY DETACHED STRUCTURE, SO WE USED TO HAVE DIFFERENT REQUIREMENTS FOR DIFFERENT TYPES OF DETACHED STRUCTURES. AND SO WHAT? OUR CODE UPDATE. WE DECIDED TO TREAT THEM ALL EQUALLY IN THE SAME, AND I DO BELIEVE THAT PERHAPS GARAGE HAS GOT AN INCREASE. SO MAYBE THOSE TWO PROPERTIES THAT HOMESTEAD IN BOWLING AND HOMESTEADING BILTMORE DID NOT NEED VARIANCES. I DON'T I DON'T KNOW. YEAH, THAT COULD BE TRUE. PREDATED OUR RECORDS, RIGHT? WE HAVE I KNOW FOR SURE THAT WE'VE HAD ISSUES WITH THAT FROM MANY YEARS BACK. ALL I KNOW IS I DID [00:10:07] NOT DO THAT. SO JUST FOR CLARITY , I GUESS OF THE STAFF QUESTION. THERE'S NO UTILITIES IN THAT AREA THAT HAVE TO BE TAKEN TO CONSIDERATION. UH THERE IS A 10 FT UTILITY EASEMENT THAT MIGHT HAVE SOME PRIVATE UTILITIES. BUT THIS PROPOSAL IS AT LEAST 8 FT THREE INCHES AWAY FROM IT, SO IT DOESN'T APPEAR TO BE, UM, OF ANY CONCERN FROM STAFFS PERSPECTIVE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD. YEAH. I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION, UM, HEARING THAT THERE WAS RECENTLY AN ADJUSTMENT TO THE SETBACK. UM COLD. COULD YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND THE PURPOSE OF THAT ADJUSTMENT SO WE CAN JUST UNDERSTAND THE SPIRIT OF THAT MOVE. YEAH I THINK THE OVERALL GOALS OF THE CODE REQUIREMENTS WERE TO PROVIDE CONSISTENCY BETWEEN DETACHED STRUCTURES. SO WE CREATED WHAT WE CALLED THE SANDBOX, SO IT WAS OVERLY COMPLEX TO HAVE DIFFERENT REGULATIONS FOR DIFFERENT DETACHED STRUCTURES. WHEN YOU THINK OF IT FROM AN INTENSITY STANDPOINT FROM A NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES PERSPECTIVE. WHETHER IT'S A YOU KNOW THE SIDE OF A POOL HOUSE OR THE SIDE OF THE GARAGE OR THE SIDE OF SOMETHING ELSE. NONE IS REALLY MORE IMPACTFUL. AS YOU KNOW, AS LONG AS IT'S THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING THAN THE OTHER. SO WE DECIDED BASED ON THE FEEDBACK WE GOT FROM OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS SUCH AS OUR PLANNING COMMISSION AND OUR CITY COUNCIL TO, UM HOLD TO THE LARGER SETBACK FOR REAR YARDS. WE HAD ALSO LOOKED AT THE HISTORY OF VARIANCES AS WELL AND WE DIDN'T SEE THE NEED TO REMOVE THOSE. AND OF COURSE, THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THIS VARIANCE REQUESTS IF THERE ARE UNIQUE CIRCUMSTANCES THAN YOU KNOW, IF WE WERE, YOU KNOW, CREATING SOME SORT OF HARDSHIP, THEN THERE WOULD STILL BE THIS FIERIEST REQUEST TO GO THROUGH, BUT I THINK THE THOUGHT WAS MORE ABOUT CREATING CLARITY, EASE AND THEN CONSISTENCY BETWEEN STRUCTURES. THANK YOU. IS THERE A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE BAG? IN THE SIDE SETBACK. HERE THERE IS A TENDER ASIDE 30 TO THE BACK. AH YES. SO FOR DETACHED STRUCTURES, THERE'S A 10 FT SETBACK. TO THE SIDE FOR EITHER SIDE. AND THEN IT'S A 30 FT. REAR AND SO FOR CORNER LOTS . THE REAR YARD IS DETERMINED THAT ITS OPPOSITE OF THE FRONT YARD OF LEAST DIMENSION, SO THERE'S ALWAYS AT LEAST ONE SIDE AND THEN THE REAR AND THEN THE REAR YARD IS OPPOSITE TO THE FRONT AT LEAST DIMENSION. SO IT'S LIKE A RECTANGLE. IT WILL BE ON THAT SIDE THAT IS OPPOSITE THE SMALLER ANGLE OR THE SMALLER SIDE OF THAT RECTANGLE. JUST QUICK QUESTION. MAYBE I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING IT ALL THAT WELL. YEAH, LET ME HAVE IT. HERE WE GO. I GOT IS THIS? THIS IS PART OF AN EXISTING PATIO THAT YOU'RE JUST GOING TO COVER THAT CORRECT COVERAGE STRUCTURE, BUT IF I UNDERSTAND THE ZONING CODE CORRECTLY. IT IS NOT AFFECTED BY THIS VARIANCE. IT IS AN INDEPENDENT, OPEN SIDED STRUCTURE. SO IT DOES NOT REQUIRE A VARIANCE BECAUSE IT'S PERMITTED TO BE 10 FT. OFF THE PROPERTY LINE. I GOT YOU. THE ONLY STRUCTURE I BELIEVE IS THE ONE SURROUNDED BY YELLOW THERE. YEAH, THIS THIS IS NOT COUNTING RIGHT? GOT YOU? AND YOU REALLY CAN'T SHIFT IT CORRECT BECAUSE THAT'S DRIVEWAY ENTERING THE PROPERTY. YEAH. I MEAN, MAKING IT TIGHTER. JUST CREATES MORE PROBLEMS FOR SCOTT AND LAURA, UNDERSTAND OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, FOLKS. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE VARIANTS APPLICATION FOR VARIANCE. WHAT'S THE 61 TO 0 TO 3? 2ND MR CHAIR? MR TREVINO, MIND JUST, UM, OPENING UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS. OKAY ABOUT TO SAY, I THINK SOMEBODY 30 OTHER FOLKS WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK. ABOUT THIS VARIANCE TONIGHT. ARE YOU HERE ON THE EXPERIENCE? OKAY I UNDERSTAND. OH, ARE REALLY UNDERSTOOD. VERY LITTLE ONE. WHAT'S BEEN SAID? OH, ARE YOU HEAR ABOUT THIS VARIANCE TONIGHT? ARE YOU A NEIGHBOR OR DO YOU WANT TO GET UP AND IDENTIFY YOURSELF AND SPEAK ABOUT IT? WHAT IF YOU WANT. IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK ABOUT IT, WHY DON'T YOU COME ON UP AND I SAID, I CAN'T UNDERSTAND YOU. IT'S JUST REVERBERATES IN HERE, UM WAIT. WE ACTUALLY WE HAVE TO SWEAR YOU IN FIRST. BUT TO SWEAR YOU IF YOU CAN RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND YOU TELL YOU DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? IF YOU WANT TO, LIKE, [00:15:04] COME ON, COME ON OUT. JUST COME ON UP HERE AND HERE. YOU CAN JUST TALK INTO THIS WHEN YOU NEED TO YOU SAYING YES OR NO? DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL? DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY YOU CAN TALK FROM UP HERE SO YOU CAN HEAR US BETTER. DONE AMAZING PLACES. UM . NEVER WENT TO OPPOSE A NEIGHBOR, YOU KNOW, WANTING TO DO SOMETHING. BUT I'VE LIVED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WILL BE THREE YEARS. WE MOVED BECAUSE IT IS A BEAUTIFUL NEIGHBORHOOD, AND I HAVE NOTICED A FEW OF THE QUARTER LOTS. UM, HAVING. YES GARAGE. I THINK JUST STUCK IN THERE. I THINK IT RUINS A LOT. OH, I WAS REALLY SAD TO SEE TO GET THIS LETTER AND SEE THAT THIS WAS GOING TO HAPPEN. YOU KNOW, MY FEELING IS YOU KNOW IF YOU NEED A LOT OF GARAGES, GOODBYE, HOUSE. WITH THREE OR FOUR CARDS, RIGHT? SURE I WOULD HAVE LIKED TO HAVE HAD THREE CORE BARRAGE WHEN I MOVED IN, BUT MINE IS A TWO CAR GARAGE AND YOU KNOW YOU ACCEPTED. WE ALL HAVE TOO MUCH STUFF. UM, BUT GOOD. I LEARNED THAT THE STEP BACK WAS SUPPOSED TO BE CERTAIN. NUMBER OF FEET. I THOUGHT MAYBE IT WAS ENCROACHING A FOOT OR TWO. OH I WAS KIND OF SHOCKED. YOU KNOW TO ME, WHY HAVE ZONING IF YOU'RE JUST GOING TO ELIMINATED. UM I DON'T UNDERSTAND. NEW ALBANY. HAS THIS REPUTATION FOR REALLY, YOU KNOW, BEING A STICKLER FOR STANDARDS. AND. I REALLY AM SURPRISED THAT THEY APPARENTLY DON'T STICK TO IT. AS MUCH AS I. YOU KNOW WHAT I EXPECT THEM TO? AS I SAID, I DON'T NOT REALLY WHAT'S BEEN SAID HERE. THERE MIGHT HAVE BEEN PONTIFEX FORMATIONS BY JUST WAS NEEDED. OH I COULDN'T GET BITS AND PIECES OF I'M LIKE THIS. ABOUT YOU KNOW, MY. I MEAN, YOU KNOW MY FIRST PREFERENCE WOULD BE IF THIS WE'RE NOT BUILT. I KNOW THAT'S PROBABLY NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. UM BUT I JUST I REALLY DON'T THINK IT IMPROVES THE NEIGHBORHOOD AT ALL. I THINK IT'S IT. DECREASES THE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD WITH YOU HELP. FREESTANDING GARAGE STUCK IN AND I KNOW IT'S A STYLE OF BUT NEWER DEVELOPMENTS OF. I'M NOT SAYING I LIKE AND EVEN THERE, BUT NOT EXISTING PROPERTY. I JUST REALLY DON'T SEE THAT. THE NEEDS ONE. SET UP NUMBER ONE WANTS TO YOU KNOW? NOT THAT WE KNOW A LOT OF THE NEIGHBORS, BUT, UM NO ONE WANTS TO OPPOSE. YOU KNOW A NEIGHBOR BUT IT'S NOT REALLY OPPOSING NEIGHBOR. I'M JUST OPPOSING THAT WHOLE IDEA OF THIS IN THE HOLE. YOU KNOW, BIGGER NEIGHBORHOOD. UM IT'S JUST ONE PERSON GETS THE IDEA AND THEN THE NEXT PERSON IS GOING TO WANT TO HAVE NO VARIANCE ALSO, SO IT'S JUST IT'S JUST KIND OF MUSHROOMS. THINK THAT'S WHAT I WAS STARTING TO HAPPEN, EVERYBODY ONCE PLACES TO PUT THEIR THINGS AND THIS NEIGHBORHOOD WAS BUILT 20 YEARS AGO. UM AND THE STANDARD. THERE ARE THREE CAR GARAGES. THE STANDARD IS BASICALLY YOU KNOW, HAS BEEN TOO HARD GARAGE. SO I JUST I DON'T I WANTED TO COME AND SEE BECAUSE THE LETTER CAME TO ME, AND IT JUST SAID VERY BASIC MINIMUM. DIDN'T SAY WHAT IT SET BACK STEP BACK IS AND SAY HOW FAR IT WAS GOING TO ENCROACH ON IT. OH, SO. I JUST THAT'S WHY I'M HERE JUST TO KIND OF SEE THE PROCESS. BUT IF I I'VE GOT A BOAT. NO, I WOULD PROBABLY VOTE. NO. THANK YOU WANT TO SIT UP CLOSER TO HEAR? YOU'RE WELCOME THIS THAT'S YOU KNOW, THEY SAID , WOULD IT HELP? IF YOU SAT OVER HERE? WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO HEAR THINGS BETTER DOESN'T HELP. UH MA'AM, CAN I CAN I ASK YOU SOME QUESTIONS? CAN YOU COME UP HERE SO I CAN ASK YOU SOME QUESTIONS? SO WHERE? WHERE IS YOUR HOME IN REFERENCE TO THIS HOME. ARE THOSE IN FRONT OF THE HOUSE. YES. YEP. YEP. I UNDERSTAND. TWO DOORS. ON THE RIGHT HAND, SIR, ON ARMSTEAD OR ASPINWALL. WHAT [00:20:03] WHAT ROAD? IS IT ON ASPINWALL OR HOMESTEAD? SO IT'S ON STANDARD, SAME SIDE OF THE STREET OR THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE STREET. OKAY, SO YEAH. I UNDERSTAND. IT'S NOT. IT'S NOT VISIBLE TO WRITE. YEAH. YES, STEPPING STUFF. WE'RE HERE TO WIN YOU PUT IN THE NOTES STRUCTURE. I JUST WANT. SO FROM A CODE PERSPECTIVE , AS FAR AS GREEN SPACE IS CONCERNED THIS THIS CONFORMS SOME OF THE CODE BASE. SO THERE ARE YEAH, I UNDERSTAND, BUT I UNDERSTAND, BUT THERE STILL IS WITHIN THE CODES OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD EVEN WITH THE STRUCTURE. SO THERE ARE CODES THAT PREVENT PEOPLE FROM OVER BUILDING ON LOTS, SO THERE HAS BEEN A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF GREEN SPACE ON THAT LOT. WITH THIS IMPROVEMENT, I'LL CALL STILL CONFORMS TO THAT CODE. SO THAT'S ONE THING. THAT'S ONE THING. OKAY ANOTHER THING IS, UM THIS IS A CORNER LOCKED. OKAY IT'S A CORNER LOT, AND THERE'S A 30 FT . SETBACK ON THIS PARTICULAR LOT WHEN IN REALITY, MOST OF THESE LOTS HAVE A 10 FT SETBACK. OKAY SO THEY'RE BEING PENALIZED BECAUSE THEY'RE ON A 30 FT LOT IN MY OPINION. I JUST KNOW WHAT EFFECT THE HOUSE. I YES. YES I WOULD AGREE. SO THE 4440 HOUSE, RIGHT? THE ONE THAT IS RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO MR HERALDS HOUSE. I WOULD ASSUME WOULD BE THE MOST IMPACTED BY THIS RIGHT. YOU KNOW HE COULD LIVE NEXT YEAR AND THEN THE NEXT PERSON UNDERSTAND, UNDERSTAND? OUR JOB IS TO MAINTAIN THE INTEGRITY OF THIS TOWN. AND THERE ARE THINGS THAT CHANGE OVER TIME. UM THIS PARTICULAR LOT IS I WOULD CALL IT UP WISE LIKE BECAUSE IT'S A CORNER LOT, AND IT HAS STRICTER CONFINEMENTS WITHIN THE LIGHT. AS LONG AS THE. OWNER STAYS WITHIN THE CONFINES OF THE CODE TO PRESERVE THE GREEN SPACE. I BELIEVE WE SHOULD PASS THIS OKAY, OKAY. I AM SURE I UNDERSTAND. I UNDERSTAND, BUT IT'S HAPPENING, RIGHT? YEAH. OKAY CAN WE QUESTION SURE STAFF ? I WANT TO MAKE SURE I CLARIFY SOMETHING. UM. THIS BUMP OUT IN THE GARAGE. DID I HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE PART THAT ENCROACHES ON SETBACK. AND THAT WITHOUT THAT, WE WOULDN'T BE OKAY. SO I'M JUST UNDERSTOOD THAT THE ENTIRE OKAY SO THE REQUEST IS, UM 12 FT. BUT THAT'S THE MAXIMUM CROCHET BINS AND SO YOU CAN SEE THE BUMP OUT THERE, SO THAT'S WHERE IT'S ABOUT. 12 FT INTO THAT 30 FT. SO IT'S 18 FT. 3 FT AWAY FROM THE PROPERTY LINE, AND THEN I GOT SOMETHING ON THE CORNERS IS WHERE THE GARAGE RECEDES. 3 FT. ADDITIONAL AWAY FROM THE PROPERTY LINE, SO IT'S 21 FT. THREE INCHES AWAY FROM THE PROPERTY LINE. SO WE ALWAYS PUT THE MAXIMUM ENCROACHMENT IN THE TITLES. BUT REALLY, I GUESS IT'S A VARIANCE FOR BETWEEN 18 AND 21 FT FROM THE PROPERTY LINE. IS THAT BUMP OUT? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S A NECESSARY PART OF THE STRUCTURE OF THE PETITIONER. TODD. WE'RE TRYING TO MAXIMIZE STORAGE. AS USUAL, AND. YOU KNOW THE REALITY OF THE EXISTING GARAGE IS IT'S NOT VERY DEEP. AND ONE OF THEIR VEHICLES DOES NOT FIT. AS WE FIND WITH A LOT OF THESE OLDER HOMES, AND YOU KNOW MOST OF US WITH MULTIPLE CHILDREN DRIVE A LARGE SUV THESE DAYS, SO THE REASON THE BUMP OUT IS TO PRESERVE SPACE FOR CARS TO PARK AND STILL HAVE STORAGE FOR BIKES AND TOYS AND WHATNOT. CAN I ASK WHEN DID THIS? I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS. WHEN DID THE HOME RUNNER PURCHASE THE HOME? IT'S GOT HAROLD BASICALLY EVERYBODY ABOUT SIX YEARS AGO, OKAY? AND STAFF AT THE TIME OF PURCHASE THAT WAS PRIOR TO THE COACH CHANGE. SO AT THAT TIME WAS THE CODE TENDENCY. NOT 30. THAT'S CORRECT EVEN ON [00:25:07] THE CORNER LOT I BELIEVE SO. THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING. OKAY? UM AND WHEN DID THIS PROJECT START? I JUST STARTED THIS YEAR. YEAH, JUST A COUPLE MONTHS AGO, OKAY? THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. OOPS. I'M GONNA STILL MOVE TO ACCEPT THIS. VARIANTS. 61 TO 0 TO 3. SECOND. MR LOGAN S . YES MR JACOB. YES MR SCHELL? YES? MR SMITH? YES. MS SAMUELS, MAY I SAY YES WITH COMMENT. I WOULD LIKE TO APPRECIATE THE NEIGHBOR WHO CAME, UM TO SHARE. HER PERSPECTIVE. I THINK THAT'S REALLY HELPFUL FEEDBACK. IT IS OUR JOB TO MAINTAIN THE SPIRIT OF THE CODE. UM AND AS MR LOGIN IST, UM STATED THE PERCENTAGE FOR BUILD ON THE PROPERTY IS NOT BEING OVER. MET FOR THIS, AND WITH THAT IN CONSIDERATION AND UNDERSTANDING THIS IS THERE'S NOT A SAFETY CONCERN. THE HOME OWNER PURCHASED THE HOME AT A TIME WHERE THIS WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN NEEDED TO BE A VARIANCE REQUESTS. AND THERE'S NO COMMENT FROM THE NEIGHBOR. WHO WOULD BE MOST LIKELY IMPACTED. UM I'M GONNA SAY YES, BUT I'M GOING TO PUT ALL OF THOSE FACTORS ON RECORD IN THE EVENT THAT THERE'S ANOTHER VARIANCE REQUESTS OF THIS NATURE MOVING FORWARD. I HAVE FIVE VOTES IN FAVOR OF THE APPLICATION. OKAY. THANK YOU. CONGRATULATIONS, GUYS. ALL [VII. Other business] RIGHT, MOVING ON TO OTHER BUSINESS. UM OUR GUESTS ARE FREE TO LEAVE. IF YOU CHOOSE, OR YOU COULD STAY AROUND IF YOU'D LIKE . WE'RE GONNA BE TALKING ABOUT ELECTING THE NEXT GENERATION OF BOARD MEMBERS. I WOULDN'T HAVE YEAH. MHM THANK YOU GUYS CATCH AROUND. ALRIGHT WE'LL LOOK YOU UP. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. HMM. IF IT ASSISTS THE BOARD. I THINK MAYBE THE EASIEST THING WOULD BE TO REFER TO PAGE THREE OF THE MINUTES, SO THEY'RE THEY'RE DOUBLE SIDED. SO IT'S PAGE THREE. BUT THAT HAS, UH, THE ANNUAL ORGANIZATIONAL MEETING THE LIST, SO THERE'S NO NEW MEMBERS TO SWEAR IN SO TONIGHT WE'LL NEED TO ELECT A CHAIRPERSON, VICE CHAIRPERSON SECRETARY AND THEN REESTABLISH OUR DATES AND TIMES FOR THE REMAINDER OF 2023. YOU. COULD YOU JUST GIVE US AN UPDATE WHO THE CURRENT POSITIONS ARE OBVIOUSLY SHOW HIM THE CURRENT CHAIRPERSON. YES I'D LIKE TO THINK SO. YES JUST SAY WHOSE BASE IS MR SMITH? YESTERDAY OKAY? I GOTTA SAY THIS WAS I WASN'T READY FOR THIS POP QUIZ. AND I'M SECRETARY. I KNOW THAT. THANK YOU. WHY DON'T WE JUST SAY IS ANYONE INTERESTED IN ANY OTHER ROLES ON THE BOARD RIGHT NOW? I GUESS I WOULD ASK YOU GUYS OR IS EVERYONE INTERESTED IN KEEPING THEIR CURRENT POSITION? HAPPY TO STAY WHERE I AM? I HAVEN'T BEEN HERE THAT LONG. SO I'M HAPPY TO STAY HERE WHERE I AM, BUT I COULD BE CONVINCED OTHERWISE, KURT COMPLETELY COMFORTABLE WITH FOR HER. OKAY? I WILL ACCEPT THE ROLE OF SECRETARY. YES, OKAY. AND I WILL MOVE TO APPROVE. UM TO KEEP MR LEBANESE AS THE CHAIRPERSON. SECOND. AND WE DO THIS LATER. BUT WHAT DO YOU DO THIS? HOW DO WE DO THIS? A CRIB THAT YOU ON THE SECOND? YES. WE DO ONE BY ONE OR TWO, THE WHOLE GROUP COMPLETELY UP TO YOU GUYS. WHATEVER YOU WANT TO REPRESENT ALL OF US. YEAH OKAY, THEN I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE TO KEEP CURRENT SEATS, AS IS MR LEONE'S AS THE CHAIRPERSON MR SMITH AS THE VICE CHAIRPERSON AND MR JACOB AS THE SECRETARY. I'LL SECOND THAT MR R LAWSON IS YES, MR JACOB, MISS SAMUELS. YES I HAVE FIVE VOTES IN FAVOR OF KEEPING THE LEADERSHIP AS IT STANDS TODAY. [VIII. Poll members for comment] [00:30:08] CONGRATULATIONS. THEN WE HOLD OUR MEETINGS ON THE FOURTH MONDAY OF EVERY MONTH ON AN AS NEEDED BASIS, BEGINNING AT 7, P.M. AND SO BORED DOESN'T MIND IF WE CAN MAKE A MOTION TO LIKE US KEEP THOSE DATES AND TIMES THE REMAINDER OF HIS CALENDAR YEAR. THE MOTION TO KEEP THE SAME DATES AND TIMES. IS THAT FOR THE CALENDAR YEAR OR IS THAT FOR THE LIKE PLANNING LIKE THE DON'T WANNA CALL IT THE FISCAL, BUT SO IT IS FOR THE CALENDAR YEAR, AND ACTUALLY, I BELIEVE OUR CITY COUNCIL JUST DID SOME UPDATES TO THE ORGANIZATION. ALSO I THINK WILL BE HOLDING THESE USUALLY ALWAYS HOLD THIS ORGANIZATIONAL MEETING IN MARCH , RIGHT, ESTABLISHING TIMES FOR DATES IN THE PAST, SO I KNOW JIM MASON. OUR COUNCIL HAVE WORKED TOGETHER TO COORDINATE THOSE TIMES OF MEMORY SERVES ME RIGHT MOVING FORWARD BEGINNING IN 2024 . I THINK WE'LL SEE BETTER ALIGNMENT OF THE ESTABLISHMENT OF DATES AND WHEN WE DO THESE ORGANIZATIONAL MEETINGS WHAT TIME IS THE TOWN COUNCIL START AT 7 P.M. SERVICE. THE COUNCIL 6 30. IS ANYONE WHEN I START EARLIER? I'M NOT OPPOSED TO POST I MEAN, YOU GUYS HAVE TO STICK AROUND LONGER. YES 6 30 MINUTES . COMMISSIONS AT 6 30. YEAH THEY'RE ALSO IT'S DO YOU GUYS HAVE A PREFERENCE? 6 30 WORKS FOR US. YEAH AND EMPATHY TO YOU . YEAH SO LET'S LET'S MAKE A MOTION TO CHANGE THE TIMING FROM 7 TO 6 32ND. MR MARTINEZ. MR. JACOB? YES, MR SMITH. MS SAMUELS? YES. MR SHELL. I HAVE FIVE VOTES IN FAVOR. OF KEEPING THEM MONDAY, KEEPING THE MEETINGS ON THE FOURTH MONDAY AT THE TIME AND CHANGING THE TIME TO 6 30. BEAUTIFUL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANYTHING ELSE, FOLKS. ANOTHER AGENDA. MHM. NOTHING ELSE FROM STAFF, OKAY? IS THERE A MOTION TO ADJOURN THE MEETING? SO MOVED. THANK YOU. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.