[1. CALL TO ORDER]
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          ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WELCOME TO THE NOBODY. CITY COUNCIL MEETING FOR TUESDAY. JULY 18TH, I WOULD INVITE EVERYONE TO PLEASE STAND WITH COUNCIL RECITE OUR NATIONAL PLEDGE EVOLUTIONS. TO MEET YOU. STATES OF AMERICA. ONE NATION UNDER THE INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY. 
          CLERK MASON, THE ROLL, PLEASE. AND IF COUNCIL WILL TURN ON THEIR MICROPHONES. MARY SPAULDING COUNCIL MEMBER RISK HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER DEREK HERE . COUNCIL MEMBER FELLOWS IS TRAVELING FOR WORK AND IS REQUESTING TO BE EXCUSED. COUNCIL MEMBER KISSES TRAVELING AND THIS REQUESTING TO BE EXCUSED. COUNCIL MEMBER SHOW HERE WILL TRAP HERE FIVE PRESENTS FOR THE JULY 18 2023 REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING. AND I WOULD MOVE THAT WE EXCUSE THE ABSENCES OF COUNCIL MEMBERS, FELLOWS AND KISSED, TRAVELING OUT OF TOWN SECOND. LODGING. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER WILL TRAP YES. COUNCIL MEMBER DEREK? YES, YES, YES, FOLKS TO EXCUSE COUNCIL 
          [4. ACTION ON MINUTES]
MEMBERS, FELLOWS AND KISSED FROM TONIGHT'S MEETING ACTION ON THE MINUTES PRIOR TO TONIGHT'S MEETING, A COPY THAT PROPOSED MINUTES FROM OUR JULY 5TH MEETING WERE DISTRIBUTED. 
          COUNCIL MEMBERS. ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS PROPOSED MINUTES. I HAVEN'T RECEIVED ANY NOTES. RIGHT THEN I WOULD MOVE THEIR ADOPTION BY CONSENSUS AND ALSO LIKE TO THANK PRESIDENT. BRISK BIRD PRESIDING OVER THE MEETING ON JULY 5TH. I WAS A LITTLE UNDER THE WEATHER AT THE LAST MINUTE, SO I APPRECIATE YOU FILLING IN ALSO I WANT TO WISH A HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO 
          [5. ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS TO THE AGENDA]
COUNSEL DROUGHT. HAPPY BIRTHDAY. THANK YOU. HEY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS TO THE AGENDA. ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS TO TONIGHT'S AGENDA ? WE MAYBE ABLE TO STRIKE THE EXECUTIVE SESSION. I GOT RESPONSES ON ALL OF MY FEELERS ON REAPPOINTMENTS BORDRY APPOINTMENTS, SO THAT'S WHAT I HAD FOR UNLESS COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION DISCUSSED BOARDING COMMISSION. WE CAN STRIKE THAT. AND THE OTHER SUGGESTIONS. 
          CORRECTIONS SEE THE GENDER FROM STAFF FOR COUNSELING. ALRIGHT THEN I WOULD MOVE THAT WE DISMISSED THE NEED FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION UNDER ITEM 17 2ND. BOBBING COUNCIL MEMBER CHARLES YES. NUMBER OF RISK. YES, MEMBER DARK. YES YES, YES VOTES TO AMEND THE AGENDA DISTRACTED 
          [6. HEARING OF VISITORS]
EXECUTIVE SESSION. ALRIGHT HEARING YOUR VISITORS. I KNOW WE HAVE NEVER SPEAKER CARDS, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE EVERYONE HAS INDICATED THAT THERE PREPARED TO TALK ABOUT AN ITEM ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA REGARDING THE HAYNES CROSSING REZONING ORDINANCE. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE FROM THE CITY ? EXCUSE ME FROM THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS COUNCIL REGARDING A MATTER NOT ON TONIGHT'S GENTLE MATT. COME ON UP. IF YOU'LL STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS ALL RIGHT, MA'AM MCFADDEN 7073 MINUTE PLACE EAST . UM, NOT ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT , BUT I WAS AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING LAST NIGHT AND INTERESTING HERE, MR BRISK COMMENTS ON IT, AND THERE WAS A NEW ITEM ABOUT CENTRAL COLLEGE REDEVELOPMENT FRAMEWORK PLAN. SO I'M SURE YOU'RE NOT SURPRISED TO SEE SOMEBODY. I'M SURE YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE SURPRISED TO SEE MORE PEOPLE. LATER I JUST WANTED TO GET SOME QUESTIONS ANSWERED IF I COULD SO I COULD BE JUST HELPFUL FOR ME. I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO SPEAK LAST NIGHT. YOU KNOW, ONE OF JUST BY THE WAY. THANK CHRIS CHRISTIAN. HE GAVE A GREAT PRESENTATION ON IT HERE TONIGHT MAY BE SURE TO ITERATE AND REITERATE ABOUT THE INTENT OF THAT. LAND TO BE USED FOR COMMERCIAL. WHICH IS GOOD TO HEAR. BUT THAT LAND IS CURRENTLY ZONED AS WHAT IS THE DISCOVERY SITE? WHAT DOES THAT ZONE PASS? MR MAYOR. SO I BELIEVE IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED OFFICE CAMPUS DISTRICT. SO IT ALLOWS FOR A VARIETY OF OFFICE AND DATA CENTER TYPE USES. SOMEBODY WILL TO TRY TO HAVE HEARD SOMEONE CAME IN TO REZONE IT FOR YOU. 
          RESIDENTIAL IS WHAT WE CARE ABOUT. THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE ENTIRE PROCESS RIGHT NOW. THAT IS CORRECT. THANK YOU , UM ONE OTHER QUESTION ON THE HAMLET, AND IT'S MENTIONED IN THE PAPERWORK. UM AND MAYBE YOU CAN JUST CONFIRM THIS FOR ME. I THOUGHT WE REDEFINED THE HAMLET GEOGRAPHICALLY CORRECT. PRETTY STRICT BOUNDARIES. CORRECT ANY APPLICATION OF HAMLET STANDARDS WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH SOME OTHER PROCESS. WE HAVE ONE HAMMER, CORRECT. AND THEN LASTLY , JUST FOR MY BENEFIT. UM WHAT IS THE DEFINITION OF COMMERCIAL AND MIXED USES? WHAT DOES THAT MEAN DEFINITION? SO IN THE CITY STRATEGIC CLAIM WE HAVE DIFFERENT FUTURE LAND USE 
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CATEGORIES AND FOR COMMERCIAL MIXED USE. THAT IS TO BE A MIXTURE OF OUR TRADITIONAL OFFICE PARK USES SO OFFICE DATA CENTERS WHERE HOUSING IT CAN BE ANYTHING FROM OUR MANUFACTURING PLANS, SO IT'S A BROAD COMMERCIAL USE. AND THEN THERE'S ALSO A RETAIL COMPONENT MIXED INTO IT. SO WHEN WE SAY COMMERCIAL NEXT USE, WE MEAN THOSE OFFICE USES. COMBINED WITH RETAIL AND PERSONAL SERVICE USES . IT DOES NOT INCLUDE RESIDENTIAL USES. THANK YOU. 
          THAT'S I DON'T WANT TO TAKE UP TOO MUCH TIME. I JUST WANTED TO GET SOME CLARIFICATION ON SOME OF THE ITEMS SO SURE. THANKS, MAN. GOOD SEEING YOU. ALRIGHT ANYONE ELSE UNDER HEARING 
          [7. BOARD/COMMISSION REPORTS]
VISITORS? I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS COUNCIL REGARDING A MATTER NOT ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA. 
          RIGHT THAT TAKES US THE BOARDING COMMISSIONER. REPORTS UM, MISS BRUCE, CAN YOU UPDATE FROM PLANNING COMMISSION? THANK YOU COULD GATHER FROM FIRST STEP PUBLIC SPEAKER HERE. ACTUALLY WAS. THERE WAS A LOT ON THE AGENDA LAST NIGHT, SO I'M GOING TO KIND OF JUST SUMMARIZE QUICKLY. AH THE BABBITT EAST ZONING DISTRICT ZONING AMENDMENT WAS HEARD THAT'S FOR THE AREA THAT IS LOCATED IN FRANKLIN COUNTY. ON THE EAST SIDE OF BABBITT ROAD. I BELIEVE TONIGHT WE'RE HEARING THE MOTION. TO ANNEX THAT AREA IN PARTICULAR, AND, UH, THAT WAS A REQUEST TO CREATE A NEW LIMITATION TEXT FOR THE AREA KNOWN AS THE BABBITT EAST ZONING DISTRICT BY ZONING THE AREA TO LIMITED GENERAL EMPLOYMENT FROM AGRICULTURAL AND THAT PASSED UNANIMOUSLY. AH NEXT . WE HAD THE GANT IN BEACH NORTHWEST ZONING DISTRICT ZONING AMENDMENT, AND THAT WAS 11 POINT . I SHOULD HAVE SAID THE FIRST ONE WAS LARGER ACREAGE, SO PROBABLY SHOULD MENTION THAT IT WAS AH. 78.16 PLUS REMIND US ACRES. IT'S A PORTION OF WHAT I THINK IS COMMONLY KNOWN TO PEOPLE AS THE WINDING HOLLOW, THE OLD WINDING HOLLOW GOLF CLUB SITE JUST TO GIVE PEOPLE SOME CONTEXT. THE NEXT ONE WAS FOR GANSON BEACH NORTHWEST ZONING DISTRICT ZONING AMENDMENT 11.4 PLUS FOUR MINUS ACRES. AH, AND THAT IS LOCATED. AH! THEN THE, UH, LET'S SEE. I BELIEVE IT'S EAST OF MY SAYING THAT CORRECTLY . LET ME FIND IT HERE. IT IS GENERALLY LOCATED AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF BEACH ROAD AND GANDHI PARKWAY. AH AND THE NEIGHBORING USES AND ZONING DISTRICTS HAVE L G E THERE, AND ONCE AGAIN, IT WAS ASKED TO MOVE THIS ONE FROM TO AN I P U D FROM AGRICULTURAL AND THAT ONE ALSO PASSED UNANIMOUSLY. THEY'RE WITH ME HERE. QUITE A FEW DOCUMENTS. 
          THE NEXT ONE WAS THE BEACH INTERCHANGE. SOUTHWEST ZONING DISTRICT ZONING AMENDMENT FOR 12.8 PLUS OR MINUS ACRE EIGHT. PLUS YOU'RE MINUS ACRES LOCATED AT 14, +461 WORTHINGTON ROAD AND BEACH ROAD IN LICKING COUNTY AND AGAIN. THIS WAS A REQUEST TO REZONE THIS TO CREATE A NEW ZONING DISTRICT TO BE KNOWN AS THE BEACH INTERCHANGE SOUTHWEST ZONING DISTRICTS BY ZONING THE AREA TO I P U D FROM OFFICE CAMPUS DISTRICT. AND THAT ONE PASSED UNANIMOUSLY. THE NEXT ONE WAS A MOTION. AH, FOR 78 30 EAST CROSS DRIVE, WHICH IS A HOME IN UM, THE C THAT IS THE CORN 55 AND OLDER DEVELOPMENT FOR A PERGOLA MATERIAL AND SETBACK VARIANTS AND AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THIS WAS APPLIED FOR THE APPLIED FOR PERMISSION TO PUT UP A PERGOLA OVER THERE, UH, OVER THEIR PATIO, AND IT WAS APPROVED ACCIDENTALLY BECAUSE THERE WAS A MISTAKE IN THE PROCESS, AND THEY PUT UP THE PERGOLA AND THEN THE MISTAKE WAS DISCOVERED. SO IT WAS VERY CLEARLY STATED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION THAT THEY WOULD NOT HAVE APPROVED. THIS LIKELY WOULD NOT HAVE APPROVED THIS BUT FOR THE UNIQUE SITUATION THAT THERE ARE OTHER PEOPLE THAT DO HAVE THIS IS THERE'S A LOT TO IT, BUT IT USED TO BE AN ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL WITH THE ENGINEERS RATHER THAN GOING THROUGH THE HEARING PROCESS. AND AS A RESULT, THERE WERE OTHERS THAT HAD IT APPROVED AND THERE IS A RESULT OF THAT AND THE FACT THAT IT WAS A MISTAKE, AND THEY ALREADY HAD IT UP. IT WAS APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY FOR THEM TO GO AHEAD AND KEEP THEIR PERGOLA UP. AND THE NEXT ONE WAS A DECK VARIANTS FOR 68 67 HEART, CURLIN, WHICH I BELIEVE IS IN WENTWORTH CROSSING 
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. YES NORTH OF CENTRAL COLLEGE, AND THIS VARIANCE WAS FOR A DEBT THAT WOULD PARTIALLY BE ON TOP OF A UTILITY. UM EASEMENT. YEAH AND THERE HAVE BEEN OTHERS LIKE THAT AND ON THE CONDITION, AMONG OTHERS THAT THEY SIGN A HOLD HARMLESS SO THAT IF THEY EVER HAD TO REMOVE A PORTION OF THE DECK FOR UTILITY EASEMENT REASONS THE CITY WOULD NOT HAVE ANY LIABILITY IT WOULD BE BETWEEN IT WOULD BE BETWEEN THEM AND THE UTILITY PROVIDER THAT WAS ALSO APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY. 
          AND FINALLY, UH, ON MY HEAD. FINALLY I BELIEVE THAT THIS IS THE LAST ONE. AH NO, I'M SORRY. 
          THERE WAS ALSO A DISCUSSION ABOUT DISPLAY SIGNS AND OUTDOOR ADVERTISING. WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF RESTAURANTS THAT WERE NOW WANTING TO DO ELECTRONIC SIGNAGE , AND THEREFORE IT WAS AGREED UPON TO CHANGE SOME OF WELL TO RECOMMEND THAT WE CHANGED SOME OF THE CODE. SO THAT IF THEY HAVE PROPER SCREENING FROM WITH LANDSCAPE AND IF IT DOES NOT ILLUMINATE ANY PRIVATE RESIDENCES AND SOME OTHER CONDITIONS THAT WE WOULD NOW BEGIN TO ALLOW THAT RATHER THAN REQUIRING A VARIANCE EVERY TIME SOMEONE WANTS TO DO THAT, BECAUSE IT'S BECOMING MUCH MORE COMMON AND MUCH MORE REGULAR AN ISSUE FOR PLANNING COMMISSION TO DEAL WITH. FINALLY UH, CHRIS CHRISTIAN, DID HE PRESENTATION TO THE BOARD ABOUT AMENDING OUR ENGAGEMENT TO ALBANY STRATEGIC PLAN FOR THE CENTRAL COLLEGE REDEVELOPMENT FRAMEWORK, WHICH I BELIEVE IS WHAT THE GENTLEMAN WAS SPEAKING ABOUT EARLIER THAT WE TALKED ABOUT, UH, THE AREA WHERE THE DISCOVERED BUILDING IS CURRENTLY DISCOVER BUILDING, AS WE KNOW IS VACANT. I BELIEVE IT HAS BEEN PURCHASED BY SOMEONE NEW. WE'RE NOT SURE WHAT THE PLAN WILL BE FOR THAT BUILDING NORTH. ARE WE EVEN SURE EXACTLY WHO THAT IS THAT OWNS IT. IT'S A LLC HOLDING COMPANY, AND THE CONCERN WAS THAT WE SHOULD BE VERY CLEAR IN THE STRATEGIC &-PD FOR THAT SITE. OBVIOUSLY IT'S A COMMERCIAL SITE, AND IT HAS A LOT OF PARAMETERS ALREADY, BUT THEY WANTED TO TRY TO DO SOMETHING STAFF WANTED TO RECOMMEND TO COUNSEL THAT WE DO SOMETHING A LITTLE MORE SPECIFIC AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION VOTED FOR TO ONE IN FAVOR OF THE RECOMMENDED CHANGES, WHICH I CAN PASS AROUND OR YOU GUYS CAN LOOK AT AFTER THE MEETING. AND THAT WAS THE END OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING. IT'S ABOUT MIDNIGHT. HMM GOOD. IT WASN'T QUITE THAT BAD CLOTHES. MHM ALRIGHT. ANY UPDATES FROM PARKS AND TRAILS AND MR FELLOWES ISN'T HERE. ARCHITECTURE REVIEW BOARDS. YES WE HAD JUST ONE CASE IT WAS FOR A SIGN, UM TIMES ACTUALLY TO BE PLACED AT 108 NORTH HIGH STREET, WHICH IS THE FUTURE LOCATION OF VIVIAN MILL HOUSE. UM, GIVEN THE LOCATION. UM IT'S KIND OF HARD TO SEE FROM THE ROAD. SO THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD UNANIMOUSLY AGREED THAT THE SECOND SIGN AND TO HAVE A PROJECTING SIGN FORCE THE RIGHT CALL, SO UM THAT PLACE WILL BE OPENING IN THE NEXT MONTH. ALRIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS ON THE REPORT? BORDER ZONING FIELDS. NO MEETING. ALRIGHT IDEA IMPLEMENTATION PANEL. WE DID NOT HAVE A MEETING. UM THE MEETING WAS REPLACED WITH THE HOUR WHICH COMFORTABLE AND BREAST WAS AT I WAS UNABLE TO ATTEND. BUT YESTERDAY WE HAD A RECAP ON WHAT THE FOCUS GROUP FOR JUNETEENTH, WHICH WAS A POSITIVE MEETINGS TO SHARE ABOUT THE RIGHT SHOULD TALK ABOUT SO WE IS, AS YOU KNOW , WE'VE HAD SORT OF THREE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES OF EVENTS THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS YEAR FOR THE INCLUSIVITY IDEA COMMITTEE GROUPING AND ONE IS WHAT WE'RE CALLING AN A 101. NEW ALBANY, 101 LEARNING ABOUT NEW ALBANY, AND SO WE HAD AN EVENT AT THE HEIGHT CENTER OPEN TO THE PUBLIC FOR PEOPLE TO COME AND MEET. WE HAVE POLICE OFFICERS THERE. WE HAD FIREMEN THERE. WE HAD REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE TOWNSHIP THERE AND REPRESENTATIVES, OBVIOUSLY FROM THE CITY AND A LOT OF DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS. AND BOARD AND COMMISSION MEMBERS OF THAT PEOPLE COULD COME OUT AND GET A SENSE OF HOW OUR CITY HAS WORKING. WHO'S WORKING IN IT? HOW TO GET INVOLVED. THEY WANT TO GET INVOLVED, AND THEY HAD WHAT I WOULD CALL NOT HAPPY APPETIZERS, BUT MORE LIKE A MASSIVE MEAL. THEY HAD A VERY, VERY GENEROUS BUFFET GOING ON, AND THEY HAD A HUGE TURNOUT. IT WAS REALLY NICE. I WOULD. SOON AS I WALKED IN THE BUILDING. YOU COULD HEAR THIS. HUM OF VOICES COMING FROM THE AREA AND I DON'T THINK ANYBODY REALLY WANTED TO LEAVE EITHER. SO IT WAS A VERY NICE EVENT AND THEN TO AS 
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COUNCILWOMAN. WELL, TROUT SAID. WE THEN HAD A VERY I THINK PRODUCTIVE BEGINNING DISCUSSION RECAPPING THE JUNETEENTH PROGRAM. THE OTHER DAY. SO BETWEEN THOSE TWO WE SKIPPED OUR MEETING FOR THIS MONTH. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. AH JUST STAFF HAVE AN UPDATE ON THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD OR SAVE THAT FOR NEXT MEETING. UM IT ACTUALLY WAS CANCELED BECAUSE OF HAPPY HOUR AND THE BOARD MEMBERS ATTENDED FAIR ENOUGH. CEMETERY RESTORATION ADVISORY BOARD. NO MEETING YET, BUT COUNCIL IS STILL INVITED TO COME TO THE RESTORATION WORK AT WAGNER WITH THE REST OF THE CRAB BOARD NEXT TUESDAY AT 3 30 IF YOU WOULD LIKE AND IF NOT, I WILL REPORT ON THAT AT THE NEXT MEETING. OKAY? CORRESPONDENT THERE WAS NO MEETING OF THE PUBLIC RECORDS COMMISSION. ANY CORRESPONDENCE OR COMMUNICATION SINCE OUR LAST MEETING. THAT 
          [9. SECOND READING OF ORDINANCES AND PUBLIC HEARING]
COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON AND THAT TAKES US TO SECOND READING OF ORDINANCES IN PUBLIC HEARING ORDINANCE, 082. 2023 NORTHERN'S TO ACCEPT THE EXPEDITED TYPE ONE ANNEXATION OF 60 62.6 PLUS REMINDED ACRES. FROM PLAIN TOWNSHIP, FRANKLIN COUNTY TO THIS CITY OF NORMALLY JOE. THANK YOU, MAYOR. AS IS OUR STANDARD PRACTICE. THIS IS THE EXPEDITED TYPE ONE WHICH WE ENTERED INTO AN ANNEXATION AGREEMENT WITH PLAIN TOWNSHIP. A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO. BACK IN 2018. THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF BABBITT ROAD, CONTINUOUS TO OTHER NEW ALBANY. UH INCORPORATED NEW ALBANY AREA AND IT WOULD BE CALM AND EXTENSION OF THE BUSINESS PARK. THERE WAS A ROAD MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT DONE AT THAT TIME, WHICH IS A LITTLE BIT UNUSUAL FOR US IN FRANKLIN COUNTY, AND THAT WAS BASED ON THE ENGINEERS' INTERPRETATION OF THE OHIO REVISED CODE AT THAT TIME. HIS POSITION HAS SINCE CHANGED. SO YOU MIGHT RECALL THAT IN OTHER PLAIN PLAIN TOWNSHIP, FRANKLIN COUNTY ANNEXATIONS THAT WE'VE DONE. WE TYPICALLY DON'T HAVE A ROAD MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT. BUT BASICALLY THIS REQUIRES US TO MAINTAIN THE SECTION OF BABBITT ROAD WHERE THE WORLD WOULD BE BISECTED BETWEEN THE UNINCORPORATED AREA IN THE INCORPORATED AREA AGAIN ABOUT 62 ACRES. ANY QUESTIONS ON THE ORDINANCE. WE'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING WITH ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC LIKE TO SPEAK REGARDING ORDINANCE 0 80 TO 2023. HEARING NO COMMENT WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I WOULD MOVE FOR THE ADOPTION OF ORDINANCE 0 80 TO 2023 2ND. SPOTTING MEMBER WELL CHILD COUNCIL MEMBER SHELVES. YES MEMBER DEREK YES. RISK YES. YES COAST ORDINANCE 80 TO 2023. 
          ORDINANCE 0 83 2023 AN ORDINANCE TO ACCEPT THE WATER LINE, SENATOR SEWARD STREET AND STORMWATER IMPROVEMENTS AND APPEARANCES THERE, TOO, FOR HORIZON COURT, AS REQUESTED BY LINCOLN PROPERTY COMPANY. UNDERSTANDING. THANK YOU, MR MAYOR. ALRIGHT THIS ORDINANCE ACCEPTS WATER LINES, SANITARY SEWERS STREET IN THE STORM SEWER IMPROVEMENTS IN AFRICAN INCE'S FOR HORIZON COURT DEVELOPER HAS SUBMITTED A TWO YEAR MAINTENANCE BONDS AND ENGINEERING EXPECTED INSPECTION FEE DEPOSIT. AND A FIVE YEAR SETTLEMENT BOND WITH ADOPTION OF THIS ORDINANCE, THE CITY WILL ACCEPT APPROXIMATELY 2600 FT OF PUBLIC STREETS, FIRE HYDRANTS AND ASSOCIATED SANITARY , SEWER, STORM, SEWER AND WATER LINES. ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING BURNITZ? I THINK THE DEVELOPER FOR WORKING WITH THE CITY AND, UH, SOME OF THE BUSINESS SHOOTERS TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN AND ADJUSTMENTS ALONG THE WAY, AND THOSE CHANGED A COUPLE OF TIMES, BUT I APPRECIATE THE EFFORT BY EVERYBODY INVOLVED. WE'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING WITH ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC LIKE TO SPEAK REGARDING ORDINANCE 083 TO 2023. THANK YOU. NO PUBLIC COMMENT. IT WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE A MOTION ON THE ORDINANCE? I MOVE ADOPTION ABOARD. AND SO 83 2023 SECONDS. COUNCIL MEMBER SHELLED. YES YES. COUNCIL MEMBER WILL TRAP SPALDING. YES YES, YES, FOLKS. ORDINANCE 83 2023. ORDINANCE 84 2023 IN ORDINANCE TO AMEND THE ZONING ORDINANCE THAT THE CITY OF NEW WOBBLY BY MEANING THE ZONING MAP TO REZONE 63.5 PLUS OR MINUS ACRES OF LAND. JANUARY, LOCATED TO THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF THE INTERSECTION OF CENTRAL COLLEGE 
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ROAD AND DRUG STREET ROAD FOR AN AREA TO BE KNOWN AS THE COURTYARDS AT HAYNES CROSSING ZONING DISTRICT FROM ITS CURRENT ZONING OF AGRICULTURAL 82 I P U D INFILL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT AS REQUESTED BY E. C. NEW VISION. OHIO LLC CARE OF AARON UNDERHILL, ESQUIRE. MISS NICHOLS. ALL RIGHT, MR MAYOR. I'M SORRY. THANK YOU, MAC. SO UH, TONIGHT I'M JUST GONNA GIVE SOME UPDATES. I'M NOT GOING TO GIVE THE FULL PRESENTATION OR ATTEMPT TO DO THE SAME GREAT PRESENTATION THAT CHELSEA GAVE EVERYONE AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING. UM BUT JUST AS A QUICK RECAP, SO THIS IS THE LOCATION OF THE SUBDIVISION. SO THIS IS 151 RESIDENTIAL UNITS THAT ARE 90% AGE RESTRICTED. SO SINCE THE LAST CITY COUNCIL MEETING, STAFF HAS RECEIVED SOME ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS AND NOTICED SOME REVISIONS THAT NEED TO BE MADE TO THE TEXT. SO I HAVE THREE UPDATES. SO THE FIRST ONE IS STAFF IS REQUESTING THAT REVISION BE MADE TO THE ZONING TEXT ON THE FLOOR TONIGHT. THE STATE THAT ROOF MOUNTED SOLAR PANELS ARE PERMITTED, UM, PROVIDED THAT THEY ARE SOUTH FACING AND NOT VISIBLE FROM THE FRONT OF THE HOME. SO WE REALIZED THAT THIS IS NEEDED IN ORDER TO MATCH THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S APPROVAL. SO IN OTHER WORDS, CURRENTLY WELL, I SHOULD SAY. CURRENTLY THE ZONING TEXT SAYS THAT SOLAR PANELS ARE ONLY ALLOWED ON THE REAR OF HOMES. AND SO THIS WILL CLARIFY THAT IT IS INDEED ALLOWED ON SIDE AND THE REAR IF ITSELF FACING THE OTHER REVISION THAT STAFFS REQUESTING ON THE FLOOR TONIGHT IS FOR A CLERICAL ERROR . SO THE ZONING TEXT AND SECTION NINE F FOUR B HERE AS STATED ON THE SLIDE INCORRECTLY REFERENCES A PROCEEDING CODE SECTION, SO THE REGULATIONS ITSELF ARE ACCURATE, BUT IT JUST NEEDS TO REFERENCE THE RIGHT CODE SECTION. AND THEN THE LAST BULLET POINT HERE HAS TO DO WITH SOME ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OF THE CITY STAFF HAS RECEIVED FROM RESIDENTS SINCE THE LAST MEETING, SO STAFF HAS RECEIVED QUESTIONS ABOUT SETBACKS ABOUT WHAT THEY ARE AND WHAT'S APPLICABLE, SO JUST TO PROVIDE A QUICK OVERVIEW, SO A SETBACK WHEN REFERENCED IN THE ZONING TEXT TONIGHT REFERS TO BUILDINGS . SO WHEN CHELSEA AT THE LAST MEETING REFERENCE TO 50 FT SETBACK THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE BUILDING. AND SPECIFICALLY OF BUILDING THIS CASE MEANS THE RESIDENTIAL HOME SO ANYTHING IN THE TEXT REFERS TO THOSE BUILDINGS SETBACKS. WE RECEIVED QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT ELSE IS ALLOWED IN THESE SETBACKS SUCH AS SCREEN PORCHES, SO IF THERE IS A SCREEN PORCH ATTACHED TO THE HOME THAT IS CONSIDERED AN EXTENSION OF A HOME OR HOME EDITION, AND SO, THEREFORE A SCREENED IN PORCH WOULD HAVE TO MEET THAT SAME BUILDING SETBACK AS THE REST OF THE HOUSE WOULD WE'VE ALSO RECEIVED QUESTIONS ABOUT THINGS SUCH AS A C UNITS AND GENERATORS, SO THOSE ARE TYPICALLY ALLOWED IN REAR YARDS . HOWEVER THIS ZONING TEXT PROHIBITS THOSE TO BE LOCATED WITHIN STORM WATER AND DRAINAGE EASEMENTS. IF YOU RECALL FROM THE LAST MEETING, FOR INSTANCE, CHELSEA MENTIONED HOW ON THE WESTERN PERIMETER THERE'S A 30 FT TREE PRESERVATION ZONE, AND THEN THAT REMAINING 20 FT WILL BE USED FOR UTILITIES. THE TYPE AND LOCATION, UH, FOR THOSE UTILITIES WILL BE DETERMINED AS PART OF A FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN. SO THE PLANNING COMMISSION REQUIRED THAT INFORMATIONE B THE UM BE SUBMIEDTT FOR DEVERE DINGUR THAT NALFI PMENTLOLAN P A AGAINND A FILNAEVELOP DNT PLAMEN. UM THATWILL  NOTIFBEDIE OF MEETI 10 DANGYSHEAD AF IT O VILLI,  IS HET HERELD ITHEN E HALLAG.O S IT ULD BECO LOTEDCA.  FOR ASO CS GENATORSER TH COULDEY BLOCATEE D IN THEN AR YARD. B NOT IUTF ERE'STH SOME  ARTSO OF ER DRAATAGEIN UTILITY SEMENTEA TT WOULHADROHIBI P TATTH FMRO BEI FROMNG BEING THERED  FORTHER O IMS ASUM, , WEE ALSO'V BEEN ASD ABOUKET LIKE SRAGETO ILDINGBU OTHERS,TYPES  O NOTSSORACUNITS.Y  TSEHO ARELSO A EASEEDLL AND ULITYTI NTS ANMETHOSED AVE H AFFERENDIT SETF O SETBASCKS . SO IN PRARATIOEPNOR AND TO ADESSDR THE SEETINGSMEHEAD A OF NIGHT'TO SETINGME, AFF HASTPREPARS ED APPLEMESUALNT QUESTNIOND ANS AE MOME.  HAVEWE DISTRUTEDIBHAT T ,UM SI THINO  EVERYKDYBO HERE TOYDAF ANYB IY DIDNOD GET'T O NE THOSEOFEMOS M, EASE CPLE WEOT EXT GS THATRAE W CAN PRIDE YOOVU.O S THIQ ANDS  A ES, UM UH, THE SAME INRMATIOFON PRODEDVI TO RITGH NO INW, THIS ESENTAPRON ABOTI UTATWHETBACK SS A, ANDRE IT SOAL CLUDESINEQUEST RS FMRO NEIGHRSBO R ADDIFOONALTI CONSIRATIONDES YARDU WHAIST LLOWED AND AEAR R S. SOHAT I' W PROVIVEDDE YOU ISHAT W ISHE ZON TG TEXTINN I THCITY CE E ALLOODWSODAY. T UM THEHENANHAT Q T A AND TARDSOW LAST GEPAESIDEN RTS HE FORDDITIO AL ATIONSER FORHAT IS W ALWABLELO IN THEEAR YA RRD. SO TY STACIFF HAS PVIDEDRO TT F TO THORE ALICANTPPS AHEAD 
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          OMBIECR A SOMEND PLAED TERSENERE. S HO TSHIS OF A ANSITITRALONREA TH A ATTHAS A V HIETY OARF SO WLOOKEDE T THIS A A NDID IT SASN'TWA APPROIATE UPR SE THISOF SIT SO IE, WASNVOLVE I D THEIN ANNATIONEXF O THI SOPERTYPRBOUT 3 AO 4 T YEARSGO A R HOMEFOOD CORWORATIONPOWHOSE, NED THOWPROPERE TYOR ABO F 20UT YESAR, ANATD HE TIM TE THE WASRE LOT OA DISCUSF ONSI AUT WHEBO FUTUOUGWE THIHT INSHAT WHE T TIME WRELD BEOU, UM,  THEAT AVAIILIES WERTINOTE CHANA AND THISNGAVE H DGE QTE AUI BITN THAT I AMNTOUF TIME O SO. NOWE WIL W LVEHA TSE AVAHOABLE TILUS.O  AND SOT THE  AMETIT WAS I YOU,NOW, K BACALLY,SIN A I NUTSHL.ELGE AS AESCTENTIALID WAS SEEN PRERREDFE USEITH AN W ACREATIVTEE BEING ONE UT ANNI WITH VALSUE THAT WERE NOT HARMLESS SCHOOL DISTRICT FROM A FINANCIAL STANDPOINT, SO THOSE ARE REALLY THE TWO SCENARIOS WE EVALUATED. AND THEN THEY ENGAGED NEW ALBANY STRATEGIC PLAN, OBVIOUSLY, WHICH IS MORE RECENT HAS MADE THOSE SAME RECOMMENDATIONS SO YOU KNOW WHEN WE WERE MAKING THIS EVALUATION, BOTH ON HOME WOODS PART AND THEIR DECISION TO ENTER INTO CONTRACT WITHOUT CON SCHOOLSDERC UTILITIES CONSUMPTION SURROUNDING CONTEXT. SO WHERE WE'VE ENDED UP AS AN AGE RESTRICTED RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY THAT EXCEEDS THE MINIMUM PERCENTAGE REQUIRED BY LAW YET SO WE'RE WE'RE COMMITTING TO 90% OF THE UNITS BEING OCCUPIED BY ONE INDIVIDUAL. AT LEAST ONE INDIVIDUAL WAS 55 OR OLDER. WE ARE ALSO IN THAT 90% RATHER THAN THE 80% THAT'S A MINIMUM BY LAW , SAYING THAT NO RESIDENTS CAN BE 21 OR UNDER AND SO OBVIOUSLY THAT'S AN ADDITIONAL, UM, PROTECTION FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. THAT IS A SAME RESTRICTION THAT IS IN PLACE OVER AT THE COURTYARDS IN NEW ALBANY, WHICH IS THE FIRST STEP CON PROJECT THAT YOU ALL APPROVED ON STATE ROUTE 65 AND HAS BEEN A VERY BIG SUCCESS. TO REMIND YOU SORT OF A CONCEPT HERE IS SIDE YARD OUTDOOR LIVING . SO UM, EACH OF THESE UNITS HAS A PRETTY SIZABLE SIDE PATIO AREA , FENCED IN AND PRIVATE AND NEVER HAVE THESE NEXT TO EACH OTHER. SO THE HOME NEXT DOOR ENDS UP KIND OF PROVIDING ANOTHER BUFFER FROM FROM THE HOME NEXT DOOR. THE WALL AND THESE HAVE BEEN. THESE ARE 
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BASICALLY WHATEVER KHAN IS BUILDING ALL OVER THE PLACE. NOW YOU'VE SEEN THEM THE GUN AWAY FROM THEIR SORT OF PIN WHEEL CONCEPT THAT THEY USED TO HAVE, AND THEY BEGAN TO THIS. NUMEROUS AMENITIES ARE AVAILABLE ON THE SITES. CLUBHOUSE POOL PICKLEBALL , MATT, UM AND OTHER AMENITIES. 
          SO. WE'RE GOING TO HEAR TONIGHT FROM NEIGHBORS. I THINK ABOUT DENSITY AND I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT DENSITY VERSUS INTENSITY. DENSITY IS A NUMBER BUT INTENSITY MEASURES IMPACT. WE'RE AT 2.3 UNITS AN ACRE HERE FOR A TOTAL OF 151 UNITS. YOU'RE SORT OF UNWRITTEN POLICY. AND MAYBE THE POLICY AND THE STRATEGIC PLAN GENERALLY IS, IS THAT THREE UNITS AN ACRE FOR 100% AGE RESTRICTED PRODUCT IS PERMISSIBLE IF OTHER STANDARDS ARE MET WERE WELL BELOW THAT. IN FACT, THE OTHER PROJECT THAT F CON DID ISN'T THAT THREE UNITS AN ACRE? SO UM, NOTTINGHAM TRACES THE OTHER ONE THAT CAME TO MIND FOR ME, WHICH IS THE POLTI PROJECT THAT CONTINUES TO BE DEVELOPED SORT OF UP THE ROAD FROM CON. IT'S AT 2.67 UNITS AN ACRE. YEAH, THAT'S 240 HOMES. 
          THOSE BE COURTYARD WAS 100% AGE RESTRICTED PRODUCT. NOTTINGHAM TRACES 80% THAT MINIMUM AND WE'RE RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE HERE. THE ALTERNATIVE WOULD BE 63 TRADITIONAL SINGLE FAMILY HOMES TO REACH ONE UNIT PER ACRE. THIS REMINDED ME OF A PROJECT THAT IS A FEW YEARS BACK IN GROWTH CITY , AND IT'S FOR A COMPANY CALLED TRUMP LIST COMMUNITIES, AND THEY BUILD AN UPSCALE RENTAL COMMUNITY FOR THAT STAGE RESTRICTED AND SO, UM, THESE RENT SERVED $2500 A UNIT. 
          THEY'RE PRETTY UPSCALE. AND ON THAT PARTICULAR SITE, THERE WAS A DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT PREVIOUSLY BEEN APPROVED FOR 45 UNITS OF SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. AND SO, UM, IN THAT SITUATION, WE DID A TRIP GENERATION COMPARISON OF 45 SINGLE FAMILY UNITS VERSUS 105 AGE RESTRICTED UNITS, AND AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, THAT CONCLUSION WAS 102 FEWER DAILY TRIPS, EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE 2.5 TIMES MORE UNITS, UH, IN AND OUT OF THE 102 FEWER DAILY TRIPS IN AND OUT OF THE COMMUNITY AND THEN OBVIOUSLY FEWER PEAK HOURS AS WELL. SCHOOL DISTRICT. UM. WE HAVE TYPICALLY IN NEW ALBANY WHEN WE'VE DONE OUR SCHOOL IMPACT ANALYSES USED 2.8 STUDENTS PER UNIT OF A TRADITIONAL SINGLE FAMILY. THAT WOULD BE 50 STUDENTS IN THIS CASE IS THE IS THE MATH. UM HERE . WE HAVE PROPOSED 151 UNITS 10% WHILE THEY WILL BE DESIGNED IN THE SAME MANNER AS THE OTHER UNITS THAT ARE RESTRICTED AND LIKELY WILL NOT ATTRACT MANY STUDENTS. THEY ARE IN FACT, YOU KNOW, 10% THAT ARE EXEMPT FROM THAT 55 AND OLDER REQUIREMENT. UM SO IN IN OTHER IN NOTTINGHAM TRACE, FOR INSTANCE, WE USED 0.15 KIDS PER UNIT. FOR THOSE UNITS THAT WEREN'T RESTRICTED. I TOOK IT UP AND DOUBLED IT HERE. THE 0.3 STUDENTS A UNIT SO IN THOSE 10% OF UNRESTRICTED UNITS THAT WOULD YIELD FOUR STUDENTS, SO OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A THERE'S A BIG DIFFERENCE THERE. THE AVERAGE ANTICIPATED HOME VALUE HERE IS $575,000. THIS YIELDS OVER A MILLION FOR A YEAR IN SCHOOL TAX REVENUE ALONE, AND I DECIDED BECAUSE DISCOVER CARDS ON TOP OF MY MIND BECAUSE I WAS THE PLANNING COMMISSION LAST NIGHT, I THOUGHT I'D TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT THAT GENERATES AND UM I DON'T QUITE UNDERSTAND. JOE MAY KNOW WHAT THE TIP IS HERE, BUT I'M BETWEEN A TIFF AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT TAXES THAT ARE BOTH ATTRIBUTABLE TO THE SCHOOLS . UM THIS IS THE EQUIVALENT OF REVENUE FROM THREE DISCOVER CARD BUILDINGS WITH HIS COMMUNITY IS BUILT OUT WITH VERY LITTLE OBLIGATION FOR COST OF EDUCATING STUDENTS. ALRIGHT PLAN IS EVOLVED SINCE WE BEGAN THIS PROCESS. UM THIS WAS OUR INITIAL PLAN NORTHEAST TO YOUR LEFT, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THE MAIN DIFFERENCE HERE BETWEEN THE TWO PROJECTS IN TERMS OF INFRASTRUCTURE IS THERE WAS A NORTH SOUTH PUBLIC STREET THAT STAFF DESIRE TO HAVE INCLUDED IN THE PLAN. THAT'S IN ACCORDANCE WITH YOUR STRATEGIC PLAN. IT SHOWS A GENERAL CONNECTION GOING THAT WAY. AS WE INVESTIGATED IT FURTHER. I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS, THEY ARE ASKED WHAT WE DETERMINED THAT THERE IS A ACTUALLY A CONSERVATION EASEMENT JUST TO THE NORTH, SO THAT STREET CONNECTION IS IMPOSSIBLE . FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT, LET ALONE A PRACTICAL ONE. AND SO, UM, THAT THAT HAS CHANGED. WE HAD STARTED WITH A MINIMUM 20 FT BUILDING SET BACK ON THE WESTERN AND EASTERN PROPERTY LINES AND WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY LEISURE TRAILS HERE AND LOCATIONS I'M SHOWING WHICH ARE EAST OF THE MAIN ENTRANCE. AND SO THAT HAS EVOLVED TO ADDING THOSE PATHS. AH TO THE EAST. WE ARE NOW AT A 
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50 FT MINIMUM BUILDING SETBACK. UM THE ENTIRE WESTERN PERIMETER BOUNDARY AND A GOOD PORTION OF THE EASTERN AND OF COURSE, WE ELIMINATED THE STREET CONNECTION , AND WE'VE REPLACED THOSE WITH THESE TWO CONNECTIONS HERE. UM THIS IS A SIMILAR CONDITION IS THAT THE OTHER APCOM PROJECT WHERE IT WILL BE BUILT, THE PAYMENT WILL BE BUILT AS SHOWN AND THEN THERE WILL BE RIGHT AWAY GIVEN FOR FUTURE USE SHOULD THE PROPERTY NEXT DOOR DEVELOPED. DURING THIS PROCESS. 
          WE HAD SEVERAL NEIGHBOR MEETINGS. UM BUT DAVIES, OUR NEIGHBORS TO THE WEST. YOU CAN READ WHAT THE OTHERS HERE BUT SERIES OF MEETINGS OVER THE MONTH OF MAY AND AS A RESULT, WE HAVE INCREASED THE SETBACKS. 50 FT. WE HAVE ESTABLISHED TREE PRESERVATION ZONES, NOT ONLY THE ONE THAT STEVE MENTIONED BUT ALSO A MINIMUM OF 100. FT. FROM CENTRAL COLLEGE, UH, SOUTH OF THE INTERSECTION OF JUG NEW PUBLIC STREET, CONNECTING TO THE NEW SUBDIVISION AND WITHIN THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF THE ZONING DISTRICT, AND THEN COVERING THE TREE LINE ALONG THE NORTHERN BOUNDARY LINE OF RESERVE. SEE SO THIS SHOWS YOU SOME OF THOSE PRESERVATION AREAS YOU SEE, SEE UP IN THE UPPER RIGHT HAND CORNER THERE SUBSTANTIAL STANDARD TREES BEING PROTECTED AS WELL AS TO THE WEST OF THAT, WHICH IS TOWARD THE BOTTOM OF YOUR SCREEN ON THE RIGHT. AND THEN IN THE NORTHWEST CORNER, UM , OUR NEAREST FRONT OF OUR HOME , UM, FACING TO THE NORTH IS 250 FT FROM THE PROPERTY LINE IN THE NEAREST HOME TO THE NORTH. OF THAT IS 250 FT. ON THE WEST, WHICH IS ON THE BOTTOM OF YOUR SCREEN. HERE ARE 50 FT SETBACK. LARGELY MATCH IS HARD TO SEE ON THIS, BUT THIS IS ABOUT 48 49 FT . IN TERMS OF THE SETBACK OF THIS HOME FROM FROM OUR SHARED PROPERTY LINE. AND UP HERE. WE'RE ABOUT 130 FT FROM THE NEAREST REAR FACADE OF THE UNIT TO THE LIVING PORTION. THIS IS I THINK A GARAGE BUT OF THIS HOME. WE'VE ADDED SUBSTANTIAL. THIS REFLECTS CHANGES THAT WERE MADE TO THE TEXT. UM ALONG THE WAY, AND, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS WE DID EVEN BEFORE WE WENT TO PLANNING COMMISSION AS WE AGREED TO SUBMIT A REPORT OF AN ARBORIST BEFORE WE GO OUT AND START DISTURBING THE SITE, UM AS IT RELATES TO BOTH THE EASTERN AND WESTERN PERIMETER BOUNDARIES TO DETERMINE WHICH TREES ARE HEALTHY AND CAN BE SAVED. WE ARE . WE HAVE AGREED TO MEET WITH NEIGHBORS AFTER THAT REPORT IS ISSUED AND WE BEFORE WE FILE OUR FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN. AND THEN, UM, WE'RE GOING TO ADD ADDITIONAL BUFFERING, UH, TO SUPPLEMENT ANYTHING WE NEED TO TAKE OUT. I DID WANT TO POINT OUT, UM WE HAVE MADE A CHANGE IN THE TEXT BECAUSE THIS CAME UP IN THAT THE QUESTION AND ANSWER THAT. I THINK YOU GOT THIS EVENING FROM STAFF THAT WE HAVE REMOVED THE DISABILITY TO ENCROACH INTO THE REAR YARD WITH DECKS AND PATIOS AND SCREENED PORCHES. WE NEVER REALLY INTENDED TO DO THAT. I THINK THAT WAS A CARRYOVER FROM SOME OTHER TEXT I HAD WRITTEN PREVIOUSLY. UM I DID WANT TO POINT OUT THAT YOU KNOW. IN THE SITUATION WHERE WE HAVE A RESTRICTED COMMUNITY THAT ALLOWS MORE DENSITY THAN IS TYPICAL OF THE SINGLE SANDWICH FAMILIES SUBDIVISION. UM WE DO RUN INTO ISSUES WITH THE CALCULATION OF OPEN SPACE AND PARKLAND. UM OPEN SPACE UNDER THE CITY CODE HAS ALWAYS BEEN, I THINK CALCULATED BASED ON AN ASSUMED DENSITY OF ONE UNIT PER ACRE. AND 20% OF THE TOTAL GROSS AREA OF THE PROJECT IS SUPPOSED TO BE SET ASIDE AS OPEN SPACE, WHICH IS PRIVATELY OWNED AND MAINTAINED. 2400 SQUARE FEET PER UNIT OF PARKLAND IS ALSO REQUIRED TO BE DEDICATED TO THE CITY. SO IF YOU APPLY THOSE NUMBERS TO A SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISION THAT'S MORE TRADITIONAL, TYPICALLY IS VERY EASY TO MEET THOSE REQUIREMENTS IN THIS CASE WHERE WE'RE A LITTLE BIT SHORT. I DON'T REMEMBER TOP MY HEAD. I'M SHORT, HARVEY. THREE ACRES. 333 UM. YOU KNOW, I DID WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THERE'S TOO LITTLE GREEN AREA. 
          YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT DOESN'T COUNT IN TERMS OF, UH, WHAT MEETS THOSE REQUIREMENTS ARE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT PONDS, FOR INSTANCE? SO YOU TAKE THOSE INTO ACCOUNT WHERE OVER 40% OPEN SPACE IN PARKLAND, BUT THIS IS NOT AN UNUSUAL SITUATION AT THE COURTYARDS IN NEW ALBANY, WHICH I THINK EVERYBODY AGREES IS A PRETTY GOOD PROJECT. WE WERE ALMOST FIVE POINT ACRES 5.4 ACRES SHORT AND WE PAY THE FEE IN LIEU OF THAT, UH, DEDICATION . TO I THINK THE CITY TO BE USED IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE METRO PARKS FOR TRAILS AND SUCH WE PLAN TO DO THE SAME THING HERE MAKE A DONATION TO THE CITY BASED ON THE THINK IT'S AN APPRAISED VALUE YOU'VE COME UP 
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WITH OF WHAT 43,000 ACRE SO WE WOULD MAKE THAT V AND LOU PAYMENT AND MAKE THAT REQUEST. 
          WHEN WE COME BACK THROUGH WITH THE PLAN. THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. UM I THINK JUST TO WALK YOU THROUGH THE PLAN A LITTLE BIT REAL QUICKLY AS YOU ENTER THE COMMUNITY VERY IMPORTANT FOR F CON TO HAVE A PRESENCE THERE WITH A NICE CLUBHOUSE. THE AMENITIES ARE LOCATED THERE. UM. NEARLY ALL OF THESE HOMES. WHAT LOOK LIKE I SHOWED YOU EARLIER WITH THE SIDE . THEY ALL HAVE THE SIDE YARD LIVING. BUT ALL OF THESE, AND IN THE GREEN ARE FRONT LOADED PRODUCT. AND WE HAVE MADE THE DECISION TO GO AHEAD WITH THE CAR LANE PRODUCT IN THIS YELLOW AREA, AND THAT WAS AN EFFORT TO AVOID A NUMBER OF CURB CUTS ON THESE MORE HEAVILY TRAVELED ROADS FOR DRIVEWAYS. SO UM, THERE'S A HANDFUL OF THE LANE UNITS THAT WILL BE REAR LOADED BY NOW THAT IS PUBLICLY DEDICATED. SO UM, WITH THAT. I KNOW WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE THAT WANT TO SAY SOMETHING TO BE HAPPY TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS JUST FOR CLARITY. SO IN THE WESTERN BOUNDARY, THOSE IN GREEN ARE FRONT LOADED UNITS CORRECT. QUESTION ON THAT. THAT SAME AREA IN THE GREEN ON THE WESTERN WHAT'S THE BUFFER BETWEEN THAT AND THE PROPERTY BELOW IT? IS THAT WHERE THE BIG YOU HAD INDICATED SIDE LIVING AREA HAD FENCING BEHIND IT. IS THAT FENCED AS WELL AS TRADE ALONG THAT LINE. THEY'RE GONNA BE OFFENSE BACK THERE. YEAH. AND IF YOU'LL GIVE YOUR NAME AND AFFILIATION. JASON COFFEE HAVE GONE COMMUNITIES. 500 STONEHENGE PARKWAY GOVERNMENT. YES, ALONG THE WESTERN ROUND AGAIN. COURTYARDS ARE SIDE LOADS THAT WE'RE GOING TO COMMIT TO ALL SILOED COURTYARDS ALARM BOTH THE BOUNDARIES ALONG THE NEIGHBORS, SO THOSE COURTYARDS ALL THE LIVING ON THE SIDE, THERE IS PRIVACY FENCES OFF THE BACK OF THE HOME THAT PROVIDES SCREENING FOR THE OUTDOOR LIVING AREA, SO THAT WOULD BE FENCES ALONG THAT PROPERTY. HOUSE COLLEGES. WHAT'S THE HEIGHT OF THE TENSE THAT SENIOR 6 FT PRIVACY OR WE DO HAVE A LOWER 4 FT METAL. NO OFFENSE AS WELL. BUT NORMALLY, THE PRIVACY STUFF IS GONNA BE 6 FT. PRIVACY FENCE. OKAY ALL OFFENSES. YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE SAME THINGS AS YOU SEE OUR CURRENT COMMUNITY. JUST TO BE CLEAR. IT WILL BE. UM BUILDING STRUCTURE SET BACK FENCE. TREE PRESERVATION OFFENSES WILL RUN ALONG THE BACK OF THE FACADE OF THE HOLIDAY. SO WHAT? ANYTHING WE HAVE AS FAR AS THE BACK OF THE HOMES. YOU CAN SEE THE PRIVACY ON THE SIDE, BUT ON THE VERY BACK OF THE HOME IS WORTHY WHEN THE WHEN THE BUILDING ENDS THE CONNECTION BETWEEN THE HOME WITH THE COURTYARD AND THE ADJACENT HOME WILL BE CONNECTED WITH THE PRIVACY FENCE BETWEEN IT ALONG THE BACK FACADE OF THE ACTUAL BUILDING STRUCTURAL STRUCTURE ITSELF. YES. OKAY, OKAY. PROBABLY YEAH, AND IF YOU PUT ANOTHER WAY, I THINK THEN BEHIND THAT THERE'S 50 FT. OF WAS 20 FT. RIGHT BEHIND THE STRUCTURE FOR UTILITIES. AND THEN WE HAVE THAT 30 FT. 
          PRESERVATIONS ANSWERS 50 FT. WITH THAT. NEXT TO NOTHING. THAT IS THE SAME. VERY IS THAT THE SAME TREATMENT UP HERE AS WELL? WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE SAME UP THERE, AND I THINK THE TREATMENT WE IDENTIFIED LOTS WHICH I THINK ARE 72 THROUGH 63 , WHERE THERE'S AN ADJACENT OWNER AND A HOME BEHIND THAT IS WHERE THE DETENTION POND IS SO THAT WE HAVE TO DO SOME DIFFERENT TREATMENTS ALONG THERE AS WE WEREN'T NECESSARILY EXPECTING TO HAVE THE SAME SETBACK OR THOSE TYPE OF REQUIREMENTS, NECESSARILY FOR WHETHER DETENTION POND IT'S SO WHAT WILL YOU BE DOING? WHAT WILL YOU BE DOING THERE? SINCE YOU'RE GOING TO TREAT IT DIFFERENTLY, JUST SO I UNDERSTAND. YEAH. THE FOLLOWING QUESTIONS. YOU SAID YOU WANTED TO TREAT THOSE DIFFERENTLY. I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND. WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ON THE EAST SIDE FROM. OH, RESIGN. YES. SO I THINK IN SOME COMMITMENTS WE MADE A PLANNING COMMISSION, THE TREATMENTS AND SOME OF THE SEVEN BETWEEN SEVEN AND TWO. AND 63, BECAUSE THOSE WERE THE ONES THAT JASON TOO. EXISTING RESIDENT HERE, RIGHT THREE BACK. THAT'S A BIG LARGE DETENTION BASED ON WE HAVE ANOTHER SLIDE THAT CAN SHOW THE OVERALL BUT THAT'S THAT'S A LARGE DETENTION BASIN SO PURE 
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OH, THAT'S A LARGE RETENTION BASIN AND THEREFORE NOT NECESSARILY PLANNING TO DO THE SAME TREATMENTS. ALTHOUGH OUR HOMES ARE ALL BUILT THE SAME, SO IT'S GONNA LOOK THE SAME. THE QUESTION BECOMES ALONG THERE. SOMEBODY MAY WANT THE LOWER FENCING THE METAL FENCING BECAUSE THERE'S SOME DISTANCE BETWEEN THE BACK OF THE HOME MORE DISTANCE BETWEEN THE BACK OF THE HOME AND THE AND THE RETENTION BASIN AS WELL. YEAH, AND I APOLOGIZE. PROBABLY MY CONFUSION WAS THE USE OF THE TERM RETENTION BASED, AND I VIEW THAT AS PART OF A OF A DEVELOPMENT PROCESS. THAT'S ACTUALLY A WETLAND, RIGHT? YES, YES, THAT'S NOT PART OF OURS. 
          IT'S JUST AN ADJACENT PROPERTY. THAT'S AN EXISTING WELL AND, YES, OKAY? THANK YOU. 
          MR ANDREW HILL. WELL, I'VE GOT YOU WHAT YOU DISTRIBUTED TO COUNCIL. CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT THAT IS? FOR THE RECORD? THAT IS A PLAN DEMONSTRATING THE REAR FENCING ELEMENTS AND BELIEVED WAS IN THE PACKAGE THAT WE FILED ANYWAY, SO IT SHOULD ALREADY BE IN THE RECORD. THANK YOU. YEAH, I JUST DIDN'T. I DIDN'T APPRECIATE THE DEFENSE LITERALLY MIRRORED THE BACK OF THE BUILDING STRUCTURE. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION. UM THE PLANNING COMMISSION ADOPTED. I BELIEVE 11 CONDITIONS BEFORE ACCEPTING ZONING. UPDATE. 14 14 14. APPLICANT IN AGREEMENT WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION CONDITIONS. YES WE ARE INTO THE EXTENT WE COULD ADDRESS THEM AT THIS STAGE IN THE TEXT VERY HAVE, THERE MAY BE A FEW THAT WE WERE IN THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN BUT WERE AGREEABLE TO ALL OF THOSE. ALRIGHT ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNSEL FOR THE APPLICANT? YES ERIN AND I KNOW WHAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF TALK. 
          THROUGH THE THROUGH THE COMMISSION ABOUT THE. IT'S STRAIGHT LINE AND THE AND THE DENSITY THAT THE NEIGHBORS WERE GOING TO HAVE. RIGHT ON THAT. THAT I THINK THAT IS THE WESTERN FRONT, RIGHT? WITH HOW STRAIGHT ACROSS THERE WAS SO MANY BUILDINGS. IT WAS A LITTLE BIT OF TALK ABOUT. COULD WE POSSIBLY BREAK THAT TO MAKE IT A LITTLE LESS A LITTLE SAY A LITTLE MORE DESIRABLE FOR THE NEIGHBORS AND NEVER QUITE WENT ALL THE WAY THERE? DID YOU EVER HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO CON ABOUT THAT POSSIBILITY. I THINK EVEN AT THAT MEETING, WE WERE WILLING TO EVEN PROVIDE ADDITIONAL SUPPLEMENTAL PLANNINGS OR OR SOMETHING EVERY FIVE OR SIX HOMES TO SORT OF BREAK IT UP. I DON'T THINK THAT EVER GOT ELECTED PLANNING COMMISSION. I THINK WE'RE OPEN TO THAT. STILL, UM BUT THAT I DON'T KNOW WHY, BUT AT THE END THAT DIDN'T GIVE ANY LIKES KIND OF WENT THERE. I THINK I CAN'T GET IN THE MINDS OF THE COMMISSION. BUT OBVIOUSLY WE HAD A COUPLE OF PEOPLE VOTE AGAINST IT, AND I SORT OF FELT LIKE THAT JUST NEVER WAS SOLIDIFIED THAT THAT WAS A MATTER THAT WAS CONCERNING PEOPLE, SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE COUNCIL FEELS ABOUT THAT ISSUE, OR WE THOUGHT THE RIGHT THING TO DO WOULD BE TO BREAK IT UP EVERY PICK IT PICK A NUMBER OF LOTS, BUT MAYBE HAVING ENHANCED, UM ESCAPING ELEMENT OR SOMETHING EVERY SO OFTEN SO THAT IT WOULD BREAK THAT UP A LITTLE MORE. SO WE'RE OPEN TO THAT DISCUSSION HERE TO BREAK IT. BREAK IT VISUALLY, RIGHT? OKAY BUT THERE IS NO ROOM FOR TAKING ONE OR TWO BUILDINGS OUT AND BREAKING IT. AND THAT SENSE, RIGHT? OKAY? SO BEHIND. BEHIND THE FENCE. I MEAN , THE RESIDENTS OF THIS WOULD BE COMMUNITY. I MEAN, THEY'RE NOT GONNA USE THAT REAR SETBACK AREA FOR ANYTHING. CORRECT THE HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION. IS IT GONNA BE GRASS TURF GRASSES ARE GOING TO BE YOU KNOW WHAT'S GONNA BE GROWING BACK THERE. SORRY, JASON. AND I THINK SOME OF THIS DON'T NEED TO BE WORKED OUT TO FIND ABOUT PLAN. OKAY WE'VE GOT THREE PRESERVATION AREA. WE HAVE A HARVEST THAT'S COMING OUT, COMMITTED SOME EXTRA ADDITIONAL PLANTINGS. UH WE KNOW THIS IN UTILITY WORK BACK THERE , BUT ANYTHING BACK THERE WOULD BE MAINTAINED, BY THE WAY. SO WHATEVER IT LOOKS LIKE WITH ME COMBINATIONS, I'M SURE SOME GRASS AND TREES AND PLANTINGS AND LANDSCAPE AS WELL AS THE NATURAL TREE PRESERVATION. YES YEAH. I MEAN, I'M NOT A DEVELOPER, BUT I MEAN THAT TREE STANDS PRETTY HEALTHY BETWEEN, UM, THE PROPERTY OWNER TO THE WEST AND THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT. UM I THINK I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A TREE STAND IN MY BACKYARD. FROM THE MAINTENANCE STANDPOINT. I'M NOT SURE YOU WANT TO BE MOUNTAIN GRASS BACK THERE. YEAH I THINK ANYTHING WOULD BE IN THE IN THE UTILITIES. WE WANT TO LEAVE AS MUCH NATURAL AS POSSIBLE. SO THE EXPECTATION IS THAT YOU KNOW, LOW MAINTENANCE, BUT WE WANT TO 
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SELL HOME THE SAME BEAUTY THAT OUR NEIGHBORS WANT TO KEEP. SO WE HAVE INTEREST IN TRYING TO MAINTAIN AND MAKE THAT VERY NICE. OKAY? THERE WAS A QUESTION UM, AND ONE OF THE DOCUMENTS THAT WERE WAS PRESENTED TO COUNCIL. IT'S NOT YET IN THE RECORD, BUT THERE WAS A SUGGESTION ABOUT BUT I GUESS I QUESTIONED POISED ABOUT WHO'S GOING TO PAY FOR THE UTILITY EXTENSION. UM I KNOW THAT THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE AND APPLICANT HAD CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THAT. IS THERE SOME FINALITY TO THAT? WHAT? WE CONTINUE THOSE NEGOTIATIONS. I THINK THAT. OUR ANTICIPATE PARTICIPATION HAS BEEN THAT WE WILL LARGELY BE COVERING THOSE WHETHER, UM, THERE'S A FORMULA THAT ALLOWS SOME RELIEF FROM THAT. I DON'T KNOW, BUT WE CONTINUE TO HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS AND I WOULD ANTICIPATE BEFORE WE HAD FAILED FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN. WE WOULD WANT TO KNOW THAT JUST AS WELL AS THE CITY WOULD SO OKAY, NOT LOOKING FOR ANY SPECIAL BREAKS FOR SURE. ALRIGHT, APPRECIATE IT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNSELOR. ALL RIGHT, THEN WE'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. UM WE HAVE A SERIES OF SPEAKER CARDS. I'M JUST GOING TO CALL FOLKS IN THE ORDER IN WHICH THE CLERK PROVIDED THEM TO ME. 
          UM I'LL CALL THE FIRST SPEAKER AND THEN SORT OF LIKE WHO'S ON DECK. IF YOU WILL, SO YOU CAN BE PREPARED TO COME UP UNDER THE SPEAKER. UM IS FINISHED. IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE ABOUT 10 SPEAKERS AGAIN. IT'S NOT THAT LATE, SO FEEL FREE TO SHARE AS MUCH COMMENT AS YOU'D LIKE. BUT AS THINGS ARE OBVIOUSLY STARTED BECOMING REPETITIVE IF ONE OF YOUR OTHER FRIENDS OR NEIGHBORS HAVE ALREADY SHARED A CONCEPT, YOU CAN JUST AGREE WITH THAT OR SUPPORT THEIR POSITION. BUT THERE'S NO SENSE IN YOU KNOW, RETELLING THE SAME STORY. UNLESS YOU PILLS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT. 
          BUT WITH THAT I'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING THE FIRST SPEAKER THAT I HAD THIS MICHELLE WEBBER AND THE NEXT ON THE LIST IS DAVID JONES WEBBER. HI MY NAME IS MICHELLE WEBBER 8337 KLAUS ROAD. AND ON THE MAP . WE ARE ON THE NORTHERN BOUNDARY OR THE SECOND HOUSE ON CLOSE ROADS. THIS IS DEVELOPMENT . IT'S GOING TO BE LITERALLY IN MY BACKYARD, SO WE HAVE LIVED ON CLASS ROAD SINCE 2005. WE BOUGHT THE PROPERTY. WE BUILT THE HOUSE WHO RAISED A FAMILY THERE. WE BUILT IT BECAUSE IT WAS RURAL. WE WANT TO LIVE THERE BECAUSE IT'S RURAL. THIS ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT IS JUST GOING TO RUIN OUR LIFESTYLE. THE WAY WE LIVE THE WAY WE RAISED OUR FAMILY. THE WAY WE ENJOY ARE PEACE AND QUIET IN OUR TIME. LEISURE TIME. OUR FAMILY TIME. 
          THIS IS NOT A GOOD IDEA FOR NEW ALBANY. IT'S NOT A GOOD IDEA FOR US IN PLAIN TOWNSHIP. IT'S JUST NOT WHAT WE MOVED HERE FOR. IT'S NOT WHAT WE WANT. FOR WHERE WE ARE LIVING IN WHAT WE'RE DOING FOR OUR LIFESTYLE. SO WE'RE ASKING, I'M ASKING THIS COMMUNITY. SAY NO TO THIS ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT. DISASTER IT'S JUST GOING TO DESTROY THE WILDLIFE IN THE AREA. WE HAVE TONS OF BIRDS AND RACCOONS AND DEER AND. CATS AND ALL KINDS OF BIRDS OF PREY. IT IS A BEAUTIFUL, WONDERFUL PLACE TO BE. WE ARE ADJACENT TO THE PRESIDENT OF THE NATIONAL THEIR FEDERAL PRESERVE. WE WANT THAT TO STAY EXACTLY HOW IT IS. IT'S A BEAUTIFUL IT'S LUSH. IT'S NATIVE OHIO PLANTS. IT NEEDS TO STAY THAT WAY, AND A DEVELOPMENT LIKE THIS IS GOING TO RUIN ALL OF THAT SO AS A AS A HOMEOWNER AS A TAXPAYER AS SOMEBODY WHO LOVES LIVING IN THIS AREA, JUST ENCOURAGE YOU. NOT TO VOTE FOR THIS. THANKS. MISS WEBBER, CAN I CAN I JUST ASK, UM SO YOU MOVED HERE? WHAT DID YOU SAY? 20 YEARS AGO? 2005 PROPERTY. OKAY UM DID WAS THAT SITE TO THE SOUTH OF YOU? ALREADY OWNED BY DEVELOPER THE HOMEWOOD SITE? I DON'T KNOW. OKAY UM, BUT CERTAINLY KNEW IT WAS VACANT LAND WHEN YOU BOUGHT YOUR PROPERTY. YES, IT'S BEEN FARM. IT'S BEEN THE HAS BEEN FARMED. YEAH I APOLOGIZE COURSE . YES IT'S I SHOULDN'T USE THE WORD BACON. IT'S GROWING FOOD FOR OUR COMMUNITY IS GROWING FOOD FOR OUR COUNTRY. STOP THINKING VACANT. UM OKAY. AND THEN, UM. JUST THE APPLICANT. 
          CAN YOU REMIND US THE SETBACK FROM THAT PROPOSED ROADWAY? ALL THE WAY TO THE TO THE NORTHERN BOUNDARY. HOW? HOW FAR DISTANCES THAT 250 FT. YEAH. 150 FT. HERE. YOU ARE. 250 FT. RIGHT. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. MM HMM. AND, UH, DAVID JONES IS NEXT. AND THEN AFTER MR 
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JONES'S PALM EASE. I HAVE SAID. FORECASTING. BE TRUE. BLACK. MR JOHNSON. I'M NOT GETTING ANY SOMETHING ABOUT MEXICO. THE BATTERY RIGHT NOW. WHAT ABOUT YOUR NAME? ONE MORE TIME? SURE MY NAME IS DAVID JONES, J O AND HE ASKS NOW YOU'RE LIKE ON THE RADIO IT OUT. YEAH SMOOTH JAZZ WITH DAVID JONES. FROM NOW ON. I PREFER TO BE CALLED DJ. YEAH THIS IS. AND I'LL JUST REPEAT WHAT I SAID LIKE THIS IS A HORRIBLE IDEA. AND I CONCUR WITH MICHELLE WEBBER. UM AND THIS GENTLEMAN SAID TO TRANSITIONAL ZONE TO ME. IT'S MY HOME AND I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH INSOMNIA, WHICH IS MY OWN PERSONAL PROBLEM. BUT WONDERFUL NEIGHBORS , AND SOMETIMES THEY'LL HAVE PARTIES. BUT I CAN HEAR LIKE, EVERYWHERE THEY'RE SAYING FROM MY HOUSE IS WORDS CARRY OUT IN THE COUNTRY WHAT I CONSIDER COUNTRY OR RURAL LIFE. UM AND AS SOON AS I HEARD ABOUT THIS DEVELOPMENT ACTUALLY, I GOT SICK TO MY STOMACH. UM AND I JUST THINK IT'S HORRIBLE. UM. EVERY SINGLE PERSON AND I'VE TALKED TO RIDE MY BIKE UP AND DOWN KLAUS ROAD AND DRUG STREET AND I TALKED TO ANYBODY'S OUT IN THEIR YARD OR EVERY SINGLE PERSON WHO LIVES IN THAT AREA. AGREES 100% THIS IS HORRIBLE, AND I MEAN IT'S GOING TO DESTROY OUR WAY OF LIFE. UM I MEAN, WE'VE GOT A HAWK'S NEST IN OUR YARD. WE'VE GOT TURKEY'S THAT ROUTINELY ALMOST DAILY COME BY OUR HOUSE, AND I MEAN WE HAVE A LOT OF LIFE WILDLIFE. THAT'S INDIGENOUS TO THIS AREA. THAT REALLY ENJOYS THIS. I'M AFRAID THAT WE'RE GONNA SEE IT GO AWAY IF THIS DEVELOPMENT DOES OCCUR. AND WHEN I SAID PEOPLE ARE AGAINST THIS, IT'S NOT LIKE THIS OBVIOUSLY BE A BAD IDEA. THEY'RE ADAMANTLY AGAINST IT, AND I THINK IT'S HORRIBLE. I DON'T EVEN WANT TO CALL THIS DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE TO ME IT'S DESTRUCTION. AND I DON'T WANT TO CALL YOU DESTRUCTION COMPANY BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO BE HURT. HURTFUL OR INSENSITIVE YOUR COMPANY, BUT I LOOK AT THIS AND SAY THAT LOOKS ABSOLUTELY HORRIBLE AND WHEN SOMEBODY DID IT DEVELOPMENT, CASSIE HAVING HOUSES THAT HAVE ACRES OF LAND THERE, BUT THIS IS I MEAN, THIS IS NOT THE RURAL LIFESTYLE THAT WE SIGNED UP FOR. IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S SO MANY DIFFERENT RULES THAT THEY SAID. WELL IF WE CAN GET AN EXCEPTION FOR THIS, WE GET AN EXCEPTION FOR THIS. WE'D LIKE TO BE A PART OF THE ALBANY HERE. WE'D LIKE TO. WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO HAVE SIDEWALKS. WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO HAVE THE PARK WE DON'T HAVE. I MEAN, I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD BE ANY EXCEPTIONS. I MEAN, EVEN IF THEY DID HAVE IT, THEY SHOULD BE HAVE FOLLOWING EVERY RULE. EVERY T CROSSED EVERY I DOTTED IT SHOULD BE SOMETHING THAT IS DONE. 
          PROPERLY I MEAN, I LOOKED AT THIS AND SAID WE'RE NOT SURE EXACTLY. I'M GOING TO DO THAT. I MEAN TO ME. I'M NOT TRYING TO BE CRITICAL OF YOU. BUT IT SEEMS HALF BAKED AND I DON'T WANT TO JUST LIKE WELL, WHEN WE GET TO IT, WE'LL FIGURE IT OUT AND I JUST THINK IT'S HORRIBLE. I DON'T KNOW HOW ELSE TO SAY THIS. MY DAD USED TO REFER TO SOMETHING THAT WAS A TOTAL MESS IS A SOUP SANDWICH, AND THIS JUST SEEMS LIKE A SOUP SANDWICH. AND IT'S JUST GONNA BE A TOTAL MESS, AND I, UM I THINK IT'S GOING TO CHANGE EVERYBODY WHO LIVES IN THIS AREA. HE'S ONE OF THIS LIFESTYLE OF RURAL NOUS. UM, TO BE DESTROYED. I DON'T WANT ANY MORE YOUR TIME, BUT THREE QUESTIONS. I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE THANK YOU, MR JONES. JUST A QUESTION. UH I MEAN, YOU'RE OBVIOUSLY OPPOSED TO THIS DEVELOPMENT. IS THERE ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT THAT YOU WOULD SUPPORT MOVING INTO THAT? YOU KNOW, WHEN I FIRST HEARD ABOUT SOMEBODY DEVELOPING THING THAT I THOUGHT THEY'D HAVE LIKE EACH EACH LAW WOULD BE ABOUT FIVE DEF. ABOUT IT IN ACRES OR SOMETHING. NICE HOUSE, UM, THAT THEY COULD HAVE YOU HAVE INDIVIDUAL FAMILY HOMES IS WHAT I ENVISIONED. BUT I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY I'M NOT A DEVELOPER. I'M NOT A I'M NOT EVEN IN THE CONSTRUCTION AT ALL. HOW MANY ACRES IS YOUR LOT? I'M SORRY. I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH YOUR HOME, RIGHT? IT'S OVER FIVE ACRES AND ACTUALLY THE WETLANDS RIGHT THERE. SO THERE'S NO, I CAN'T. 
          UM I COULD NOT HIT ANY OF MY NEIGHBOR'S HOUSES WITH 300 YARDS GOLF SHOT I COULDN'T HITTING IN. 
          MY NEIGHBOR'S HOUSE IS HORRIBLE GOLFER SON DON'T TRY TO ANALOGIZE THAT SORRY. I'M SORRY ABOUT THE BAD ANALOGY. UM BUT IT'S ALRIGHT WITH YOU IN THE MORNING ON MY HEART. I CAN'T SEE A NEIGHBOR'S HOUSE. IT'S LIKE EVERYTHING IS I SEE TREES. AND I SEE PLANTS AND I SEE BIRDS. I SEE TURKEYS AND DEER. AND I SEE WILDLIFE. BUT I DON'T SEE A SINGLE HOUSE, BUT I WALK OUTSIDE 
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MY FRONT DOOR. GOT IT TO WORK OUT SOME OF THE BACK DOORS IN THE HOUSE. SO THAT'S WHAT I MEAN. COME ACCUSTOMED TO AND UM I HAVE LIVED ON A AND A HOUSE BEFORE THAT'S RIGHT NEXT TO HIGHWAY AND HONESTLY, I COULDN'T SAY HAD TO MOVE BECAUSE I COULDN'T SLEEP. AND I DON'T WANT I MEAN, I'M BLESSED OR CURSED WITH YOUR EIGHT RIGHT HEARING. AND I CAN HEAR THINGS. UM REALLY WELL AND UNFORTUNATELY, I CAN HEAR WHEN NEIGHBORS TALK OVER THE HOUSE. I CAN SOMETIMES HEAR EXACTLY WHAT THEY'RE SAYING. SO I MEAN, I'M I'M SURE THAT THE HOUSE 151 HOUSING DEVELOPMENT COMES IN. MY BACKYARD. I WOULD BE HEARING STUFF ALL THE TIME, AND I'M NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO SLEEP. ALL RIGHT. WELL, THANK YOU, MR JONES. I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR LISTENING TO ME. UP. NEXT IS PAUL MASON FOLLOWED BY TOMORROW DATES. MR MASON. DIDN'T SIR. 
          EVENING MY NAME IS PAUL MASON. I LIVE AT 80 TO 93 CENTRAL COLLEGE ROAD. UM, ACTUALLY, MY WIFE IS ACTUALLY HERE AS WELL. BRING HER IN. AND OF COURSE, COME ON HER NAME ON THE LIST. IF SHE WANTS TO TALK. I DON'T THINK SHE WANTS TO COME IN. RIGHT CHEERS RIGHT UP HERE. THIS IS MY FOURTH MEETING HERE. POOR TIME IN THIS BUILDING. LAST MONTH ON THE 19TH WAS MY BIRTHDAY, SO I APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE IN YOUR UM AND I KNOW MY NEIGHBORS HAVE A LOT TO SAY, UM AND SO I'M GONNA LET THEM SPEND THE MAJORITY OF TIME I DID SEE IT. MR UNDERHILL IS PRESENTATION THAT MY NAME WAS LISTED. AS YOU KNOW, THERE'S BEEN SOME SOME COMMUNICATION WHICH WAS A PRETTY QUICK MEETING OVERALL ARE BIG WORRY ON THE NORTH SIDE SO WE WOULD BE ON CENTRAL COLLEGE WROTE THE YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE THE ENTRANCE. THE ONE OF TWO ENTRANCES HERE IS DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM OUR DRIVEWAY. UM SO OUR BIG CONCERN RIGHT WITH THERE ONLY BEING TWO ENTRANCES AND EXITS IS THAT THAT IS I MEAN DIRECTLY THE HEADLIGHTS. AND WHY NOT? I KNOW MR UNDERHILL AND AFGHAN. THEY'VE AGREED TO DO SOME SORT OF SCREEN ITCH ON OUR PROPERTY, SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S I HAVEN'T TALKED TO THEM SINCE THE 31ST. THEY HAVE NOT COMMUNICATED ANYTHING TO MYSELF FOR EITHER NEIGHBORS ON BOTH SIDES. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S STILL BEING CONSIDERED. 
          AND THE ONLY OTHER THING THAT I WANTED TO MENTION I MENTIONED IT. I THINK IN EVERY MEETING SO FAR, BUT THERE'S AN OLD BARN THAT'S ACROSS THE STREET. I THINK IT WAS MARKED ON ONE OF THE SLIDES EARLIER AND I BECOME AWARE THAT THAT'S ACTUALLY A TURKEY VULTURE NEST ON THE TOP FLOOR. UM AND THAT THESE ARE PROTECTED MIGRATORY BIRDS UNDER THE FEDERAL MIGRATORY BIRD ACT. 
          WHERE I KNOW MOVING. UM. THEIR NEST OR MOVING THE BIRDS THEMSELVES IS PRETTY HARD TO DO WITHOUT ANY SORT OF PERMIT. SO I'M CURIOUS WHAT IF THEY'VE MADE ANY PROGRESS TOWARDS WHAT THEY'LL DO WITH THOSE ANIMALS. AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. THANK YOU GUYS VERY MUCH. THANK YOU KNOW ABOUT THE TURKEY ISSUE, BUT IT WASN'T AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION DIDN'T BURN COME UP AND DIDN'T YOU OFFER OF SOMEONE WANTED TO REMOVE THAT BARN THAT YOU WOULD BE WILLING TO LET THEM MOVE IT TO ANOTHER LOCATION? REMEMBER THAT? DID WE KNOW ABOUT THESE TURKEYS BEFORE? JUST NOW? I'M NOT AWARE OF THAT. HE MENTIONED THE LAST MEETING AS WELL. AND I THINK FIRST PERSPECTIVE AGAIN. WE NOW GO BACK TO BEING TREATED SOME CARDS AS FAR AS UNDERSTANDING MOVEMENT POTENTIAL MOVEMENT OF THE BAR, AND OBVIOUSLY THERE'S SOMETHING PROTECTED. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO. RIGHT GUIDELINES TO TAKE CARE OF THAT, APPROPRIATELY, WHETHER IT'S MOVED OR SOMETHING ELSE HAPPENS WITH THE BAR RIGHT THERE. SOME AGREEMENTS MADE TO DO SOME SORT OF ADDITIONAL SCREENING FOR HIM, AND THAT PART OF THE STREETS WERE ON THE RECORD IS COMMITTING TO THAT. 
          THAT HASN'T CHANGED. CERTAINLY YOU KNOW, THINK IN ORDER TO TWO. I GUESS SOLVED HIS CONCERN. WE YOU KNOW, IT'S BETTER TO OCCUR ON HIS PROPERTIES BECAUSE THE HEADLIGHTS BY DEFINITION ARE GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, PAST OUR PROPERTY, SO WE'RE COMMITTED TO DOING THAT. OKAY THAT WASN'T ONE OF THE CONDITIONS, THOUGH. I DON'T THINK WAS IT. BEEF, SIR. THEY'RE ACTUALLY MAYBE MAKE THAT YEAH, OKAY. UM AND ONE MORE THING SINCE I HEARD SOME OTHER PEOPLE SAY THAT THEY REALLY JUST DON'T WANT THIS DEVELOPMENT. UM I KIND OF YOU KNOW, I WAS WENT THROUGH NEW OR MANY'S WEBSITE TODAY, AND I SAW LIKE THE UPDATED THERE. THE NEW ALBANY SILICONE VALLEY WEBSITE. THEY'VE SHOWN, YOU KNOW, LIKE SEVEN OR EIGHT NEW REALLY COOL PICTURES OF THIS GIGANTIC INTEL CHIP MANUFACTURING PLANT THAT THEY'RE DOING. AND I'M SUPER CURIOUS ABOUT IT. I ONE OF THE SLIDES MR UNDERHILL HAD SHOWN EARLIER THAT SHOULD AND ALL OF THESE GOOGLE AND MICROSOFT AND THIS $20 
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BILLION INTEL CHIP FACTORY. THAT'S I THINK THREE MILES FROM THIS LOCATION RIGHT HERE. UM WHEN YOU HAD ASKED, UM, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE? I DON'T THINK ANY OF THE NEIGHBORS HAVE I THOUGHT THIS WOULD BE AGRICULTURAL FARMLAND FOR THE FOURTH. I MEAN, RIGHT, THINGS ARE GROWING FAST. UM BUT JUST KNOWING THAT WE'VE GOT THIS, LIKE MASSIVE INVESTMENT IS INTEL CHIP PLANT GOING IN? UM OPENING IN 2025. I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY TIMELINES OF THIS. I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG IT TAKES TO BUILD 151 HOMES. UM BUT I'M JUST CURIOUS LIKE IS THERE. HOW DOES THIS BID INTO ANY OF THOSE BUSINESSES THAT WERE UP THERE FOR 55. PLUS WHICH I SAW THE $1.5 MILLION OF ADDITIONAL REVENUE, WHICH SEEMS PRETTY SMALL IN COMPARISON TO SOME OF THE BIGGER THINGS WE KNEW ALBANY HAS BEEN DOING IN RECENT YEARS AND WHAT WE'RE CURRENTLY BUILDING TODAY THAT UM . TO ME. IT FEELS LIKE THINGS ARE MOVING REALLY FAST, AND IT'S SCARING A LOT OF THE NEIGHBORS, RIGHT. THESE ARE PEOPLE WHO ALSO ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE INTEL PLANT. UM AND SO IT'S JUST KIND OF HITTING US FROM ALL SIDES. WE'VE JUST GONE THROUGH A LOT OF CONSTRUCTION ALL ON THIS ROAD, AND IT JUST DOESN'T FEEL LIKE NOW THE RIGHT TIME AND THE PREVIOUS MEETINGS. IT WAS IT WAS . THE DENSITY IS TOO MUCH. UM I APPRECIATE IT'S NOT THE MAX THAT THEY COULD DO, BUT AT THE SAME TIME LIKE, IS THIS REALLY ARE WE THINKING BARN OF IN THE FUTURE FIVE YEARS FROM NOW, WHEN INTEL IS OPEN WHERE THOSE JOBS GOING, AND WHEN YOU ASKED WHAT KIND OF DEVELOPMENT WOULD YOU LIKE? I THINK I LOOKED RIGHT DOWN THE ROAD AT TIDEWATER AND I THINK THAT THAT FEELS LIKE A COMMUNITY THAT WOULD. BE AROUND FOR A LONG TIME TO STAY AND SOMETHING THAT MORE FITS THE CHARACTER OF THE REST OF THE PEOPLE AND NEIGHBORS AROUND, SO I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. THANKS I'LL LET THE DEVELOPER TRY TO ANSWER THE QUESTION AS FAR AS BUILD OUT. MAYBE JASON JUST BASED ON THE COURTYARDS WITH THE TIME FRAME WAS FOR THAT CONSTRUCTION, APPRECIATING THE ENVIRONMENTS A LOT DIFFERENT THAN IT WAS FIVE YEARS AGO. YEAH, WE'RE STILL GOING IN THINKING WITH THAT NUMBER OF HOMES. PROBABLY FOUR OR FIVE YEAR KIND OF BUILT OUT, YOU KNOW, TAKE THIS 6 TO 8 MONTHS TO KIND OF GET STARTED TO GET ALL THE UNDERGROUND IN. BUT ONCE WE START SELLING AND BUILDING PRIVATE 45 YEARS, OKAY? AND THEN MR MASON, THE FIGURE THAT MR UNDERHILL SHARED FROM A TAX REVENUE STANDPOINT WAS TO THE SCHOOLS. AS AS YOU MAY KNOW, OR MAYBE NOT KNOW A LOT OF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PARTNERS THAT WE'VE WELCOMED INTO THE NEW ALBANY COMMUNITY HAVE ACTUALLY NOT BEEN IN OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT . SO YOU KNOW, THE CITY HAS TRIED TO BE VERY COGNIZANT OF THE FACT THAT YOU KNOW ANY DEVELOPMENT THAT WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO APPROVE HER INFLUENCE. 
          I MEAN INFLUENCE IS PROBABLY THE BETTER WORD. UM WORD HAS AN IMPACT ON THE SCHOOLS. WE WANT TO BE VERY SENSITIVE TO THAT. UM AGAIN. IF THIS WAS DEVELOPED THAT ONE ACRE. SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL. I THINK THE WAS PRETTY OVER 50 STUDENTS. THAT HAS AN IMPACT ON THE SCHOOLS. WE HAVE TO BE, UM COGNITIVE THAT HISTORICALLY, I THINK THESE PROJECTS THAT ARE AGE RESTRICTED HAVE NOT DEVELOPED A LOT OF STUDENTS AND PROVIDED SOME LEVEL OF REVENUE. AND THERE'S STILL A LOT OF DEMAND IN THE COMMUNITY FOR FOLKS THAT ARE EMPTY NESTERS THAT YOU KNOW, HAVE RAISED THEIR FAMILIES AND WANT TO STAY HERE. BUT THERE'S NO REFER THEM TO GO AND LIVING IN A FOUR BEDROOM HOUSE JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. UM SO THERE'S STILL SOME DEMAND IN THE MARKET FOR IT. UM YOUR YOUR POINT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, JUST THE RIGHT SPOT. YOU KNOW, THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S A FAIR QUESTION, FOR SURE. AND I DO AGREE. I MEAN, I SEE THESE HOMES AND THEY'RE THEY'RE LOVELY, LOOKING INSIDE AND OUT. AND I MEAN, I SEE MY BOOK. MY PARENTS HAVE RECENTLY RETIRED, AND I SEE THEM LIKE THIS SEEMS LIKE A GREAT SPOT FOR, UM I'M SURE THAT THE DOMAIN IS THERE. WHY WOULDN'T IT BE IT JUST IT'S ALMOST LIKE, YOU KNOW. COULD WE JUST WAIT A LITTLE BIT? JUST SEE? DO WE NEED THIS? THIS IS THIS PIECE OF LAND IS PRETTY SPECTACULAR LIKE IT'S THIS WIDE OPEN. IT ALMOST DOESN'T LIKE IT DOESN'T FEEL LIKE IT SHOULD BE LIKE YOU GO BACK THERE, AND IT'S JUST THIS HUGE, BEAUTIFUL. THERE'S SOME REALLY COOL FEATURES ON IT. IT JUST SEEMS LIKE I MEAN, I'VE HEARD IN PREVIOUS THREE MEETINGS LIKE YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE WORSE. IT COULD BE FIVE HOUSES PARADE GROUP. UM I MEAN, YOU KNOW MAYBE WE NEED FIVE HOUSES AN ACRE IN THE FUTURE, RIGHT? OR WE'RE GONNA WHATEVER WE WHATEVER GETS DECIDED AND HAS BUILT THERE TODAY IS KIND OF WHAT'S GOING TO STAY FOR A LONG TIME. AND I I'M I DON'T KNOW WHEN I HEAR YOU KNOW THE ADDITIONAL STRESS ON THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. UM THAT SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD THING LIKE OUR SCHOOLS ARE PRETTY TOP NOTCH LIKE, DON'T WE WANT SEEMS LIKE A SOMETHING TO ADDRESS WITH. HAD WE BUILD THAT EDUCATION PROGRAM OF HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE GOT ENOUGH TO KEEP OUR TOP RATE RATED SCHOOLS? UM YEAH. I 
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APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE TIME AND SHARING YOUR COMMENTS. UM AND AGAIN, YOU'RE VERY THOUGHTFUL. ABOUT OUR COMMUNITY, OBVIOUSLY PAYING ATTENTION TO WHAT'S GOING ON. ALRIGHT TAMBOR. DAVIES IS UP NEXT AND THEN RICHARD ON. HI. MY NAME IS TAMARA DAVIES. I AM LOCATED 8200 CENTRAL COLLEGE ROAD. I HAVE A THERE WE GO, OKAY? I HAVE A QUESTION PERSON, MR UNDERHILL. THOSE NUMBERS YOU SHOWED FOR TRIPS OR THOSE PROJECTIONS ARE ACTUAL COUNT. THOSE WERE AN EXAMPLE OF ANOTHER COMMUNITY WHERE I HAD DONE A SIMILAR PROJECT NUMBERS OR PRODUCED. THERE'S ACTUAL NUMBERS IN THOSE WERE ACTUAL NUMBERS AND BASED ON TRAFFIC COUNTS AT THAT LOCATION. WE'VE HAD OUR OWN TRAFFIC STUDY FOR THIS THAT HAS BEEN APPROVED BY THE CITY ENGINEER. I'M JUST FOR OUR HUSBAND, HUSBAND SAYS. I'M ALWAYS COMING AND GOING AND WE'RE IN THAT AGE CATEGORIES. SO I'M THINKING I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU GET FEWER COMINGS AND GOINGS JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE OLDER, ESPECIALLY WHEN THIS IS ADVERTISES AND ACTIVE. ADULT COMMUNITY, SO I WOULD THINK THERE'D BE JUST AS MANY AS IN A REGULAR NEIGHBORHOOD GYM, HOBBIES, FRIENDS MEDICAL APPOINTMENTS, STORE SHOPPING. UM AND THE ONLY OTHER POINT I WANT TO SAY IS, I KNOW I DON'T AGREE THAT THE COURTYARD ANNUALLY UNEASE IS A PRETTY GOOD PROJECT. MY OPINION. OKAY TO START THINGS. NEXT. I GOT THIS THING TO THE NEXT SLIDE. YEAH. OKAY? I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S WRONG WITH THAT. SLIDE HERE. THAT NEAR IS IT? DO YOU HAVE A CLICKER? TURN IT AROUND IN YOUR HAND, OKAY? AND HERE, OKAY, WHAT DOES THE SCREEN DID I DO SOMETHING TO POINT IT AT THAT WE GO. THERE YOU GO. MY INTENT TODAY IS A NO VOTE ON THE UPCOMING DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE THE DEVELOPMENT DOES NOT MEET CURRENT ORDINANCES AND HOPE I ACT ISSUES. I THIS IS A COUPLE OF SPEAKERS HAVE SAID THIS TO. I MEAN, THIS IS THE ZONING ORDINANCE. THIS IS NOT THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN, SO JUST SOME CLARITY ON THAT. I THINK WE CAN ALL BREATHE THAT AGREE THAT THE LAND SURROUNDING THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT BOTH IN NEW ALBANY, PLAIN TOWNSHIP AND ON LICKING SIDE OF THE COUNTY LINE ARE ALL SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ON OVER AN ACRE OF LAND. ACCORDING TO THE NEW ALBANY. OHIO CODE OF ORDINANCES TITLE ONE ZONING ADMINISTRATION, 11 03.02. THE PROPOSAL ELEMENT. I HAVE CONTESTS NOT MEET THE STANDARD OF PROTECTING THE CHARACTER OF THE AREA. ADDITIONALLY ACCORDING TO THE NEW ALBANY, OHIO, CODE OF ORDINANCES, 11 33.0 TO THE DEVELOPMENT DOES NOT MEET THE STANDARDS OF ESTABLISHING RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS AT DENSITIES CONSISTENT WITH THAT WHICH EXISTS IN THE RESPECTIVE AREA. THE STATED OBJECTIVE OR THE ORDINANCES DISCOURAGE LARGE CONCENTRATIONS OF INTENSIVE DEVELOPMENT WITH INTENSITY INTENSITY WOULD BE INCONSISTENT WITH THE CHARACTER OF THE AREA. 
          IN ADDITION TO NOT BE IN THE PROCEEDING ORDINANCES, ACCORDING TO THE NEW ALBANY, OHIO, CODE OF ORDINANCES, PARAGRAPH 11 59 04. WITHIN THE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT ZONING DISTRICT PROPOSED LOCATION OF ANY OF THE USES WILL NOT ADVERSELY AFFECT ADJACENT PROPERTY. CLEARLY THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE HERE TONIGHT WHO ARE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS. INDICATES THAT THEY ARE CONCERNED THAT THE DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO ADVERSELY IMPACT THEM. AND THE NEW ALBANY, OHIO. 
          COURT OF ORDINANCES, PARAGRAPH 11 71.01 LANDSCAPING, IT STATES THAT THE FURTHER PURPOSE OF THIS SECTION IS TO ENCOURAGE THE PRESERVATION AND REPLACEMENT OF MAJOR TREES AND TO ENCOURAGE THE EFFECTIVE USE OF LANDSCAPING BETWEEN LAND USE IS TO MINIMIZE USUALLY VISUAL POLLUTION. I WOULD LIKE TO DRAW ATTENTION. TO THE CURRENT STATE OF THE PROPERTY. I THINK THERE IS WHERE DO YOU FEEL? WHAT BUTTON? DO I PRESS? THE EASY ONE? RIGHT? OH, I SEE IT, OKAY? HERE IS A POST THAT IS OUR PROPERTY LINE. RIGHT HERE IS APPROXIMATELY 30 FT. SO EVERY TREE PASSED, THIS ONE HERE WOULD BE TAKEN DOWN AND REPLACED WITH THIS. OKAY, UM, ANOTHER VIEW. HERE'S ANOTHER VIEW OF WHAT IS BEING REPLACED WITH TO ME. THEY LOOKED BASICALLY CONNECTED. WE SEE THOSE A C UNITS SITTING OUT THERE. IMAGINE IF THAT IS ALSO GENERATORS. YEAH, THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS 
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LIKE, FROM THE TOP VIEW AND CON DRAWING. YOU SEE THEIR BASIC TO ME. THEY'RE CONNECTED. YOU HAVE A HOUSE WITH FANS CONNECT TO THE NEXT HOUSE. THE NEXT IT'S A WALL. IT'S A WALL THAT RUNS FOR 1200 FT. NEARLY A QUARTER OF A MILE DOWN THE PROPERTY LINE NEXT TO US. THAT WALL IS GOING TO PROHIBIT THE WILDLIFE THAT CURRENTLY TRANCE VERSUS OUR PROPERTY IN THE NEARBY PROPERTIES FROM CONTINUING ON THEIR JOURNEY. SOMEONE. NO. OKAY THESE ARE PICTURES TAKEN FROM MY HOUSE FROM THE BACK WINDOWS FROM MY DECK. YOU CAN SEE THE OSPREY ALL HEARINGS, DEER TURKEYS, AND, UM, AN EAGLE IN THE BOTTOM. ALL OF THESE ARE GONNA BE NEGATIVE FOR THE IMPACT. I BELIEVE THE OWLS LIVE NEARBY. I CAN HEAR THEM HOOTING MANY NIGHTS. THE HEARINGS ARE ALWAYS TRYING TO STEAL FISH NORTH POND. AGAIN THESE ANIMALS ARE GOING TO BE IMPACTED BY THE DENSITY YEAR AND THE INABILITY TO MAKE IT ACROSS THEIR NORMAL HABITAT. OKAY AND I CONSIDER VISUAL POLLUTION. IF YOU LOOK AT THAT, THAT'S VISUAL COLLUSION TO ME. OKAY THE ENGAGED NEW ALBANY OR NEW ALBANY STRATEGIC PLAN SITES. ANY PROPOSED RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT OUTSIDE THE VILLAGE CENTER SHALL HAVE A BASE DENSITY OF ONE DWELLING UNIT FOR GROSS ACRE IN ORDER TO PRESERVE AND PROTECT THE COMMUNITIES, NATURAL RESOURCES AND SUPPORT YOU OVERALL LAND CONSERVATION GOALS OF THE COMMUNITY. ADDITIONALLY THE PLAN RECOMMENDS EMPTY NESTER HOUSING. IN THE VILLAGE CENTER, WALKABLE TO AMENITIES. SO ALL THAT'S ORDINANCES. NOW I WOULD LIKE TO GET INTO SOMETHING. 
          ABOUT THE WHOLE BAG. RIGHT NOW. WE'RE CONSIDERING THIS TO BE A NET. POSITIVE FINANCIAL IMPACT ON THE SCHOOLS. I'M SAYING THIS IS NOT GUARANTEED. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE 0 84 2023 THING IF YOU LOOK AT PAGE TWO IT TALKS ABOUT IF THIS HOPE OF ACT BECOMES ILLEGAL. WHY WOULD THEY THINK IT MIGHT BECOME THE LEGAL . YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE PACT IS ONLY CONSTITUTIONAL IF IT SERVES A LEGITIMATE GOVERNMENT PURPOSE. THE ORIGINAL HOUSING FOR SENIORS ACT INCLUDED LANGUAGE ABOUT A SIGNIFICANT SERVICES AS PART OF THE COMMUNITY. THESE REQUIREMENTS ARE ELIMINATED, AND NOW THE ONLY REQUIREMENT IS THAT THESE COMMUNITIES EXCLUDE FAMILIES AND CHILDREN. AS YOU KNOW, REASONABLE GOVERNMENT PURPOSE HERE. LET'S SEE. UM. I BELIEVE. YOU KNOW, IF THIS WENT TO COURT, THERE ARE COURT ACTS. I MEAN, THERE ARE YOU KNOW CASES THAT HAVE GONE WHERE PEOPLE HAVE HAD CHILDREN THAT HAVE MOVED IN . FOR ONE REASON OR ANOTHER, YOU KNOW, DEATH IN THE FAMILY WHERE THE GRANDKIDS NEED TO MOVE IN. UM THEY HAVE GONE TO COURT AND SOME OF THESE, THE H O A GIVES IN AND LETS THEM STAY BECAUSE THEY I THINK THEY WERE AFRAID OF TAKING THIS TO THE OUR SUPREME COURT BECAUSE I THINK IT WOULD BE CONSIDERED. UM, ON CONSTITUTIONAL BACK IN 1977. THE SUPREME COURT IN A RULING OF EAST CLEVELAND, OHIO, VERSUS MORE SAID THAT THE ZONING ORDINANCE THAT PROHIBITED MEMBERS OF AN EXTENDED FAMILY FROM LIVING TOGETHER IN THE SAME RESIDENTS, THEY OVERTURNED IT. THE COURT TREATED AS FUN AND THE FUNDAMENTAL RIGHT TO LIVE IN AN EXTENDED FAMILY, AS OPPOSED TO A NUCLEAR FAMILY. UM SO I'M READING THIS KIND OF WRONG. IT RULED THAT NO CITY SHALL BE ALLOWED TO FORCE ITS ADULTS AND CHILDREN TO LIVE WITHIN CERTAIN NARROWLY DEFINED FAMILY PATTERNS AND RECOGNIZE THE AUDIENCE WAS DISCRIMINATORY. SO WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IS THIS BECAME ON CONSTITUTIONAL AND THEREFORE ILLEGAL. WOULD BE. WE ALREADY HAVE HUNDREDS OF THESE 55 PLUS COMMUNITY UNITS ALREADY. IN NEW ALBANY. EVERY ONE OF THOSE WOULD BE OPEN THOSE TWO FAMILIES AND THEY COULD SAY ALL DAY LONG THAT THESE ARE NOT MADE FOR FAMILIES WELL. THE APARTMENTS ON NEW MARKET AND MAN ARE NOT MADE FOR FAMILIES. YET THERE ARE STUDENTS THAT GO TO THE SCHOOLS FROM THERE. AND SOME OF THESE HOMES THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING THERE COULD GO UP TO FOUR BEDROOMS. AND AT THAT PRICE RANGE, IT'S STARTING AT 5 75. THAT'S ONE OF THE CHEAPER SINGLE FAMILY HOMES OPTIONS YOU'RE GONNA FIND IN NEW ALBANY. SO YES, IF THEY WERE OPENED, UM IF IT WAS MADE ILLEGAL, THERE WILL BE FAMILIES THERE. REGARDLESS OF THE FACT THAT IT'S NOT MADE, AND THEN THAT'S GOING TO BE A WHOLE. ANOTHER ISSUE, PROVIDING SOMEWHERE FOR THOSE KIDS TO PLAY. HIS UM, THE PARKS WILL NOT BE THERE WITH THE EQUIPMENT FORM. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT, UM ANY OF THAT. I APPRECIATE APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR DAVIES. RICHARD. GOOD EVENING, SIR. NEXT IS KATHERINE DAVIDSON. ALWAYS SAID THAT RIGHT? 77. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS RICK AND I 
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LIVE AT 83 83 CLASS ROAD, WHICH IS ONE OF THE PROPERTIES IMMEDIATELY TO THE NORTH OF THIS PROPERTY, SO WE'RE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS. MY TIES IN THIS LAND. DON'T GO BACK AS FAR AS MY WIFE, WHICH IS FAMILY, WHICH GOES ALMOST 200 YEARS ON THIS LAND, AND I WAS MARRIED ON THE LAND 26 YEARS AGO, AND THIS ONE NIGHT I STARTED SO THIS HAS BEEN . WHERE WE RAISED OUR FAMILY WHERE WE'VE LIVED AND WE PLANNED ON LIVING INDEFINITELY. UM YOU KNOW AS LONG AS WE CAN, ANYWAY, RIGHT NEXT TO THIS NATURE PRESERVE THAT WE FELT SO I THOUGHT THIS WAS AN INTERESTING FACT. AND YOU GUYS MAY NOT KNOW THIS, BUT UNLIKE ANIMALS, WHICH SLOW DOWN THEIR GROWTH AS THEY GET OLDER TREES GROW FASTER AS THEY GET OLDER. AND THAT'S KIND OF WILD, BUT THEY ACTUALLY IT DOESN'T ALWAYS LOOK LIKE IT BECAUSE THEY SEEM TO GROW SO SLOW, BUT THEY CROWN AND THEIR ROOTS AND EVERYTHING THAT THEIR NET GROWTH IS ACTUALLY FASTER. THE TRUTH BEING DESTROYED FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT. MANY OF THEM ARE OVER 100 YEARS OLD. AND IT WOULD TAKE 100 YEARS AFTER WE PLANTED THE NEW TREES BEFORE THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO CONSUMES IN THAT OF CARBON DIOXIDE BUILD ROOT STRUCTURES HAVE COMPARABLE EQUIVALENTS, ASSUMING WE DON'T PLANT TREES THAT ARE DESIGNED TO HAVE A VERY SHORT HEIGHT AND VERY NARROW ROUTE, STRUCTURES THAT DON'T INTERFERE WITH SIDEWALKS AND DON'T DROP LEAVES ON THE FRONT LINES OR SEEDPODS OR WHATEVER. SO I MENTIONED THIS BECAUSE LAST WEEK, WE HAD THE HIGHEST TEMPERATURE THIS PLANET HAS EVER SEEN. ON AVERAGE GLOBAL TEMPERATURE AROUND THE PLANET. THERE ARE MASSIVE HEAT WAVES GOING ACROSS THE SOUTHERN U. S. 
          THIS WEEK. ARIZONA THEY'VE HAD 19 STREET DAYS OF OVER 110 DEGREES. IN AFRICA IN EUROPE LAST YEAR. THE HEAT WAVES KILLED 61,000 PEOPLE IN THIS YEAR PROMISES TO BE MUCH WORSE IN RUSSIA IN GEORGIA, THAT HEATWAVE HAS WIPED OUT THE PEACH CROP. AND WE WON'T BE SEEING FEATURES . 90% OF THE PEACHES WERE DESTROYED THIS YEAR AND IT DUE TO AN EARLY HEATWAVE AND SPRING. 
          THE HEAT IS CAUSING WILDFIRES THE LAST TWO DAYS, COLUMBUS AND NEW ALBANY HAS BEEN UNDER AN AIR QUALITY ALERT BECAUSE OF WILDFIRE SMOKE. THESE TREES ARE OUR. NATURE IS WHERE CONDITIONER THEY'RE USING THE EVENT TO TRANSFER TIVE. PROCESSES AND SHADING AND THEIR PURIFYING THE AIR. AND IT WILL TAKE 100 YEARS OR ANY OF THE TREES. THEY PLANT NOW TO GET TO THE POINT WHERE THEY CAN DO THE SAME EFFECT THAT THE TREES THAT ARE THERE NOW CAN DO. I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THE GRASSES CENTER IN THE TWO CAN WE PUT THE ACTUAL SEAT THAT BACK UP FOR JUST A SECOND? AND THESE COMMENTS, THE ONE SHE HAS IS FINE THAT WARD 13. THAT ONE OF THOSE? WELL THAT ONE'S CHOPPED OFF IF YOU GO A LITTLE FURTHER DOWNSIDE, 13 HAS TO CASH IT, CARDINAL TAKING ITSELF SO THERE'S A 17 ACRE I'LL GET THERE. THANK YOU. THE 17 ACRE WETLAND UP HERE. BUT. ONE WORD. 
          UH SO WE HAVE 17 ACRES OF MITIGATED WETLAND UP HERE AND THEN JUST TO THE, UM THIS SIDE OF OUR HOUSE AND GOING OUT. WE HAVE 30. PLUS ACRES OF FEDERALLY PROTECTED WOODLAND PRAIRIE LAND AND WETLAND MIX AS PART OF A FEDERAL CONSERVATION PROGRAM FROM 20. YEARS AGO, WE STARTED THIS PLAN THE WATER AND DRAINAGE FROM ALL OF THESE PLANTS FLOWS DOWN THROUGH HERE TO BLACK LICK CREEK. AND, UM, IT FLOWS ACROSS OUR YARD HERE. YOU CAN SEE THE LITTLE CREEK GOING DOWN AND IT GOES DOWN THROUGH HERE. SO UM, THIS IS ALSO A WILDLIFE CORRIDOR BETWEEN THE 17 ACRE POND AND THE CREEK BELOW HAND TIDEWATER WHEN THEY PUT THAT IN, HAD TO DO ALL THESE SETBACKS AND SPECIAL THINGS TO PRESERVE THAT CORRIDOR AS WELL. THESE GRASSES. IT'S SUPER IMPORTANT TO MAKE THEM PRAIRIE GRASSES WHEN YOU PLANT SOD UM. YOU'VE SEEN PEOPLE ROLL UP THE SOD LIKE A CARPET. THE ROOTS ON SOD ARE ONLY AN INTER TOO DEEP. AND IN PLAIN TOWNSHIP . ALL OF OUR SOIL IS HARD PACKED CLAY. AND THE WATER DOESN'T PENETRATE THE CLAY. SO IF YOU PUT A LOT OF SOD AND GRASS DOWN THAT WATER SITS ON THE SURFACE AND RUNS AWAY. IF YOU PUT PRAIRIE PLANTS AND THE PRAIRIE PLANT ROOTS CAN GO 10 OR 12 FT DOWN AND BREAK UP THE CLAY AND THEY BECOME A SPONGE FOR 
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ABSORBING ALL THAT WATER BEFORE IT BECOMES A FLOOD AND JOHANNA OR FLOODING. PORTSMOUTH OR A FLOOD IN NEW ORLEANS OR WHEREVER THE WATER IS GOING, THAT WE'RE SENDING IT WE HELPED CATCH AND TRAP SOME OF THAT WATER. BUT IT JUST PLANTING PRAIRIE GRASSES INSTEAD OF SOD. WE'VE ALSO TALKED ABOUT THE PROGRESS IS BEING SUPER IMPORTANT FOR THE POLLINATORS. AND I THINK IN THE LAST MEETING THAT AS HERE, I POINTED OUT THAT WE'VE HAD A SIGNIFICANT POLLINATOR COLLAPSE AROUND THE WORLD AND THIS IS PUTTING YOUR ENTIRE FOOD SUPPLY FOR THE HUMAN RACE IN JEOPARDY. 
          SO ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO HELP THE POLLINATORS IS A GOOD THING AS WELL. SO WE'VE BEEN ASKING IF THIS IS WRONG AND HAS TO GO IN THIS, THIS SHOULD BE PRAIRIE GRASSES AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE AND NOT SPRAYED TO HELP THEM PREDICT THE POLLINATORS. BUT THE FLOODING THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DOWNSTREAM THAT I JUST MENTIONED. LAST WEEKEND IN VERMONT, MASSIVE FLOODING WIPED OUT THE CAPITAL CITY OF MONTPELLIER, WHICH IS WHERE I ACTUALLY WENT TO HIGH SCHOOL AND THEY MANY PEOPLE I KNOW I'VE HAD THEIR HOUSES AND BUSINESSES WIPED OUT DUE TO THE FLOODING, BUT IT'S NOT JUST VERMONT AND NEW YORK AND PENNSYLVANIA AND WEST POINT, NEW YORK. LAST WEEK , THEY GOT SEVEN INCHES OF RAIN IN THREE HOURS. NORMALLY THE UPSTATE NEW YORK ONLY GETS FOUR INCHES OF RAIN IN THE ENTIRE MONTH OF JULY. BUT THERE'S FLOODING IN IOWA WITH FLOODING IN CHICAGO LAST WEEK. THERE'S FLOODING IN ARKANSAS. FLOODING IN PAKISTAN IN THE PHILIPPINES IN NORTHERN INDIA, SOME UNBELIEVABLE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WERE EVACUATED FROM DELHI AND NORTHERN INDIA THIS WEEK DUE TO FLOODING. WE CAN'T SAVE THE WORLD. WE CAN'T. STOP STRIP MINING IN WEST VIRGINIA STOPPED THE JUNGLE FROM BEING DESTROYED IN THE AMAZON. BUT WE CAN TRY TO SAVE AS MANY TREES AND DO A LITTLE BIT WE CAN WITH THE LAND THAT WE HAVE AND THE PLACES WE CAN CONTROL. WE'RE NOT LOOKING FOR A DEATH BY 1000 CUTS IF WE CAN AT LEAST STOP ONE LITTLE CUT . IT MAY NOT MAKE THAT MUCH OF A DIFFERENCE, BUT AT LEAST WE DIDN'T MAKE THE WORLD ANY WORSE. 
          AND WE WANT TO HAVE A FUTURE. SO THE TREES WHEN THEY GET TO BE 100 YEARS OLD, MANY OF THEM HAVE ROOTS THAT ARE MORE THAN 100 FT. DEEP PUSHING DEEP DOWN INTO THE CLAY AND FERMENT AND BREAKING THAT UP AND HELPING PROTECT FROM FLOODING, AS WELL AS KEEPING US COOLER. SO I THINK IT'S UM, SUPER IMPORTANT TO CONSIDER ALL THESE THINGS WHILE I WAS THINKING ABOUT I WAS THINKING, OKAY, SO THEY'RE GOING TO PLANT THESE TREES AND SAY, WELL, WAIT, 100 YEARS AND ALL THE TREES ALONG THE STREET HERE WILL BE 100 YEARS OLD. THEN IT WILL BE AWESOME AGAIN. BUT I CAN'T IMAGINE THIS DEVELOPMENT BEING HERE IN 100 YEARS. I CAN'T IMAGINE THE DATA CENTERS BEING HERE IN 100 YEARS AND SO I LOOKED UP. AND DID YOU KNOW THAT THE AVERAGE LIFESPAN OF A DATA CENTER IT'S ONLY 10 TO 20 YEARS? AND SO 20 YEARS FROM NOW, MOST OF THESE DATA CENTERS ARE GOING TO BE LIKE THE DISCOVERY PLANT IS NOW KIND OF ABANDONED. NOBODY'S SAYING KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH THEM. AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME SORT OF CRISIS AGAIN AROUND THAT, BUT THAT'S A SIDE CONVERSATION HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS PARTICULAR TOPIC AT HAND. OTHER THAN AS I STARTED TO THINK ABOUT WHAT IT TAKES TO GROW A TREE FOR 100 YEARS, I STARTED TO THINK ABOUT WHAT TYPE OF PLANNING SHOULD WE BE THINKING ABOUT? WHAT TYPE OF DEVELOPMENTS AND FUTURE DO WE WANT NEW ALBANY TO HAVE WHEN OUR KIDS KIDS ARE IN HIGH SCHOOL? SO THAT WAS ON MY MIND. WE CAN'T SAVE EVERYTHING. BUT LET'S TRY NOT TO MAKE IT WORSE AND CUTTING , GRANTING THE EXCEPTION TO NOT HAVING ENOUGH GREEN SPACE AND GRANTING THE EXCEPTION TO CUT DOWN ALL THESE BEAUTIFUL OLD TREES. IT'S JUST HORRIFYING TO ME. UNTIL I WANTED DAD. THANKS. THANKS GREG. JUST A COUPLE QUICK QUESTIONS OFF. YOU MENTIONED GRASS IN THIS SORT OF PRAIRIE GRASSES AND OTHER PLANTINGS THAT WOULD HELP MITIGATE SOME RUNOFF AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. UM, I THINK FROM A PRIOR MRS WEBER, I BELIEVE MENTIONED THAT THAT'S FARMLAND TODAY. IT'S NOT PHOTOGRAPHS IS IT'S SOYBEANS. IT'S CORNETS. WHATEVER ELSE. FARMLAND'S NOT VERY GOOD FOR HELPING. YEAH I MEAN, IDEALLY, WE WOULD TURN IT INTO A PROTECTED CONSERVATION LAND, LIKE THE REST OF THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES ARE ALREADY BUT WE CAN'T DO THAT. THEN WE HAVE TO DO THE NEXT BEST THING WE CAN. MY QUESTION IS KNOWING THAT YOU KNOW FOR 4 TO 5 MONTHS OUT OF THE YEAR. THERE'S PROBABLY LITTLE TO NO VEGETATION ON THAT PARCEL. HOW'S THE RUN OFF IN THE IN THE LATE EARLY SPRING WHEN HOMEWOOD FIRST BOUGHT THIS BACK IN THE LATE TWO THOUSANDS, UM JIM LYNCH FROM THE SOIL AND WATER COUNTY HEALTH. I'M NOT SURE WHICH DEPARTMENT HE WAS WHICH HE'S RETIRED. HE WALKED OUT THERE WITH THE HOMO DEVELOPERS, AND HE TOLD THEM THAT THEY COULD NOT DEVELOP THIS LOT BECAUSE IT WAS TOO WET. HE SAID. ANY DEVELOPMENT YOU DO HERE WILL BE TOO WET AND YOU'LL 
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GET SUED. AND THIS IS JUST NOT DEVELOPABLE. AND SO THE FARMERS WENT IN THE NEXT YEAR, AND THEY PUT IN DRAINAGE CHILD LIKE EVERY 100 YARDS ACROSS HERE. ALL THE WAY DOWN. IT WAS CRAZY AMOUNT OF DRAINAGE TILES AND, UM, AND THEN RAN IT DOWN HERE AND THEN JIM RETIRED AND THEN HOMEWOOD SOLD THE LAND 15 YEARS LATER, WHEN EVERYBODY FORGOT ABOUT THAT UNTIL CON. UM IN. HOPEFULLY AFCON CAN PUT IN LOTS OF DRAINAGE TILES AND BASICALLY TAKE ALL THIS WATER THAT'S ACCUMULATING ON THE SURFACE AND IN THE POND ABOVE AND IN THE MICROSOFT PLANT BECAUSE ALL THAT WATER AND JUST SHUNTED TO SOMEWHERE ELSE AND LIKE A HAND TO DEAL WITH THE FLOODING, BECAUSE IT WON'T BE A NEW ALBANY AND THAT'S OKAY. NO, NO, NO, NO. I THINK WE TRY TO BE RESPONSIBLE THERE. STORMWATER MANAGEMENT. SO THOSE TWO BASINS THERE IS THAT I MEAN, THERE'S THOSE ARE NOT EXISTING RIGHT. THOSE WOULD BE CONSTRUCTIVE BASIS THAT'S CURRENTLY FARM FIELDS AND MOST OF THIS AREA HERE IS TREES. AND THEN THERE'S A TREE LINE THAT GOES ACROSS RIGHT HERE AS WELL. 
          AND THEN TO THE NORTHERN BOUNDARY, WHICH IS RIGHT TO THE SOUTH OF YOUR HOME, RIGHT? YES THAT TREE STANDARDS THAT THAT'S THERE TODAY. YEAH THE WEALTH HISTORY STAND. I DON'T THINK IT'S HERE. THIS IS FROM FIELD. OKAY TREES HERE ARE HERE TODAY, AND SOME OF THOSE ARE 80 TO 100 FT. TALL AND SOME OF THEM ARE PROBABLY DATE BACK TO WHEN THIS WAS FIRST FARM, YOU KNOW, ALMOST 200 YEARS AND I MEAN L S I MISUNDERSTOOD THAT THERE'S A COMMITMENT TO PRESERVE THOSE TREES. YEAH THEY'RE ON OUR PROPERTY, SO I WOULD HOPE THEY PRESENT OKAY? RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL. BUT THANKS. I ALWAYS LEARN SOMETHING EVERY TIME YOU COME DOWN, SO I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT KATHERINE IS UP NEXT AND THEN FOLLOWED BY RON DAVIS. 
          HELLO GOOD EVENING. I AM CATHERINE SABISTON 83 83 CLOSE ROAD. SO I HAVE A LETTER THAT WE PUT TOGETHER WITH INPUT FROM THE NEIGHBORS, BOTH ON CENTRAL COLLEGE AND ON CLASS ROAD. AND I WOULD LIKE TO SUBMIT IT. FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. UM AND I HAVE SEVERAL COPIES GIVE YOU ONE . SO CAN I JUST GIVE THE COPY THE CLERK MASON WILL MAKE SURE EVERYONE CAN HELP REMIND ME THAT WILL MAKE SURE THAT SUBMITTED INTO THE RECORD BEFORE WE GIVE FINAL CONSIDERATION TO THE ORDINANCE. THANK YOU. SO I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO, UM CAME OUT IN SUPPORT OF THIS LETTER AND DECISION YOU IF YOU WOULD BE WILLING AND ABLE TO STAND UP. 
          JUST TO SHOW YOUR SUPPORT. THANK YOU. SO I WANTED TO SHOW THAT THERE IS A LOT OF NEIGHBORHOOD INPUT INTO THIS LETTER. UM GIVEN THAT SOME OF THESE POINTS HAVE ALREADY BEEN COVERED. I DON'T THINK THAT I WILL READ EVERY DETAIL, BUT, UM THE INTRODUCTION IS THAT DEAR COUNCIL MEMBERS, WE ARE THE NEIGHBORS LIVING ADJACENT TO THE PROPOSED COURTYARDS IN HAINES CREEK DEVELOPMENT. WE WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS OUR STRONG OPPOSITION TO THIS ORDINANCE AS IT CURRENTLY STANDS. WE HAVE SERIOUS CONCERNS ABOUT THE IMPACT THIS DEVELOPMENT WILL HAVE ON OUR COMMUNITY AND WE URGE YOU TO VOTE AGAINST IT. WE ALSO OFFER SUGGESTIONS FOR IMPROVING THE PROPOSAL, WHICH WE BELIEVE WOULD MAKE IT MORE PALATABLE TO THE COMMUNITY. THESE CHANGES WOULD HELP THE DEVELOPMENT BETTER FIT OUR PEACEFUL RURAL NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE URGE YOU TO CONSIDER THEM. SO THE BASIC POINTS. THE DEVELOPMENT DOES NOT FIT THE CHARACTER OF THE RURAL RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. THIS IS NOT A STRAIGHTFORWARD ZONING CHANGE. WE WANT TO POINT OUT AGAIN THAT IT BARELY PASSED THE ROCKY FORK ACCORD AFTER TWO MEETINGS, 5 TO 3. AND IT BARELY PASSED THE NEW ALBANY PLANNING COMMISSION WITH A VOTE OF 3 TO 2. DEVELOPMENT WILL BE AN ISLAND SURROUNDED BY LAND ON ALL SIDES. UM THERE IS NO WALK ABILITY FROM THIS PROPOSED NEIGHBORHOOD. IT DOESN'T CONNECT BY WALKING TRAILS. UM, IT PRECLUDES FOREVER . THE ABILITY OF NEW ALBANY TO TAKE A HOLISTIC VIEW OF THIS AREA. UM AN OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE PROTECTED GREEN AREAS. 
          FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS. DEVELOPMENTS SOME OF THESE POINTS HAVE ALREADY BEEN RULED DEVELOPMENTS WITH DENSITY HIGHER THAN ONE UNIT PER ACRE SHOULD BE IN THE CITY CENTER. IT'S STILL NOT CLEAR HOW WATER WILL BE SUPPLIED TO THE PROPERTY. IF YOU WOULD THE PROJECT WOULD DESTROY EIGHT ACRES OF WETLANDS. UM AND THERE ARE NUMEROUS SPECIES AS HAVE ALREADY BEEN MENTIONED 
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BIRDS SUCH AS OWLS, HERONS, TURKEY, VULTURES, OSPREY AND BALD EAGLES. WE HEAR THE OWLS ALL THE TIME COMING OFF OF THIS. THIS AREA. IT DOESN'T MEAN THE PARKLAND REQUIREMENT ON SITE. 
          DRAINAGE AND WATER PROBLEMS HAVE ALREADY BEEN MENTIONED. THEIR CONCERNS FOR THE 15 NINETIES RESTRICTED RESTRICTED HOMES, NOT HAVING ACCESS TO PLAYGROUND AND ALSO THE ADJACENT WETLAND. UM POND. I BELIEVE IT'S 19 ACRES JUST ADJACENT THERE. YOU KNOW HOW KIDS ARE CURIOUS THEY LOVE TO EXPLORE. UM THERE'S CONCERN THAT THEY MAY GET INTO TROUBLE WITH THAT THAT POND, WHICH IS FAIRLY DEEP IN SPOTS. CONCERNS FOR THE IMPACT OF LAWN CHEMICALS, HERBICIDES AND PESTICIDES ON THE ADJACENT CONSERVATION WETLANDS, BUT WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THE IDEA OF PRAIRIE PLANTS SO THE SUGGESTION TO ADD PRAIRIE PLANTS ALONG THAT NORTHERN BORDER WAS TO PROVIDE A WAY TO HAVE A NO SPRAYS ON BECAUSE THEIR NATIVE PLANTS. YOU WOULDN'T NEED TO SPRAY THEM. 
          THEY COULD BE MODE ONCE A YEAR WOULD BE A SOLUTION. UM. THE NEIGHBORS HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT CAR IMPACTS AND NOISE AND. THIS WOULD BE AN ISOLATED RELATED SITE. SO SOME OF THE PROPOSALS TO IMPROVE THE DEVELOPMENT INCLUDE INCREASING THE NATURAL BUFFER ON THE WEST AND EAST BORDERS. 200 FT. UM AND THE SUGGESTION IS TO CONSIDER REMOVING SOME OF THE UNITS HERE. 
          TO MAKE ROOM FOR THAT THOSE EXTENDED BUFFERS. THERE'S ALSO A SUGGESTION TO WAIVE THE STRICT SHINS ON HOMES, NOT BACKING UP TO OPEN SPACE. I BELIEVE THIS IS PART OF NEW ALBANY COORDINATES AND I'M NOT SUPER CLEAR ON IT. BUT THESE HOMES ALL HAVE THAT FENCE BEHIND THEM. SO IT'S NOT LIKE THE RESIDENTS ARE GONNA BE ABLE TO KIND OF EXPAND THEIR YARDS INTO THE TERRITORY, SO, UM , IT MAY BE APPROPRIATE TO CONSIDER WAIVING THAT IN THIS CASE. UM. WHEN WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE DEVELOPMENT FIT THE NATURAL FEATURES ALREADY ON THE SPOT. UM I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE FULL PARKLAND ALLOTMENT REQUIRED. I WOULD LIKE TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF UNITS OVERALL TO ONE UNIT PER ACRE. I THINK THAT WOULD BE A MUCH BETTER FIT FOR THIS PARTICULAR SPOT. ALREADY MENTIONED THE SPRAY AND CHEMICALS THE PRAIRIE PLANTS, TREE PLANTINGS. CONCERN FOR NEIGHBORS ACROSS CENTRAL COLLEGE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE COMPLETELY OPAQUE PRIVACY SCREENING. AND. ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS MENTIONED THE TURKEY VULTURES, SO IF THAT BARN IS REMOVED THE TIMING NEEDS TO BE TOO, YOU KNOW OF NESTING NEEDS TO BE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT. YOU HAVE THE LETTER IN FRONT OF YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION. AND THIS I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT THIS WAS SIGNS AND SUPPORTED BY 20 NEIGHBORS. THANK YOU. ONE THING YOUR LETTER I SAW AND I HADN'T SEEN ANYONE OR DIDN'T HEAR ANYONE ELSE MENTIONED. IT WAS THE LEISURE TRUCK CONNECTIONS. UM I'M JUST PEOPLE LIVE IN THAT COMMUNITY FOR A WHILE. HAS THERE BEEN CONVERSATIONS AROUND? YOU KNOW, I'M CENTRAL COLLEGE, ADDITIONAL LEISURE TRIAL CONNECTIONS. I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT, UM CAMERA. SOMEBODY ELSE. ALL RIGHT. MAYBE I CAN ASSESS STAFF. 
          I MEAN, I CAN'T REMEMBER FROM THE PARKS AND 12 ADVISORY BOARD. YOU KNOW, THERE'S WE'VE HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS OVER THE YEARS ABOUT THE DEDICATED LAND NEXT TO TIDE WATER THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, SET FOR A PARK OF SOME SORT OF SOMETIME. FUTURE DEVELOPMENT PLANS MAY IMPACT THAT AS WELL. 
          BUT, YOU KNOW, STILL TRYING TO COMPLETE THAT CORRIDOR. FROM A LEISURE TRAIL STANDPOINT, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW WHERE THAT SON OF PRIORITY. IF WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH ANY OF THESE NEIGHBORS ON CENTRAL COLLEGE ABOUT THAT. NO I DON'T BELIEVE WE'VE HAD ANY ADDITIONAL CONVERSATIONS OR STUDIES FOR WE SHOULD TRAIL EAST OF WHAT I CALL THE FIVE POINTS DEVELOPMENT ALONG THE CENTRAL COLLEGE ROAD THERE. UM YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD TRAILS INSTALLED YOU THERE IN TWO WAYS. IT ALWAYS HAPPENS AS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS , AND IT'S A CODE REQUIREMENTS AND OR IT CAN BE STUDIED. IF THERE'S A SHORT GAPS ARE YOU KNOW IN ORDER TO MAKE THOSE CONNECTIONS IN THE FUTURE? BUT AS OF TODAY, THERE'S BEEN NO STUDIES BY STAFF AS FAR AS FEASIBILITY GOES FOR LEISURE TRAIL. AND THEN JUST MY MEMORY IS CONFIRMED BY THE GOOGLE MAPS, BUT THE TIDEWATER DEVELOPMENT DOES HAVE LEISURE TRAIL LONGING CENTRAL COLLEGE IN THE NORTH END CENTRAL COLLEGE. THAT'S CORRECT. I BELIEVE IT TERMINATES AT THE EAST SIDE OF THE TIDEWATER 
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SUBDIVISION. OKAY? ALRIGHT PROPERTY. OKAY WELL, THAT GETS AN ANSWER THAT I GUESS THAT ANSWERS THAT QUESTION. ALL RIGHT . THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, MR DAVIES, AND THEN, UH, AFTER MR DAVIES, WE HAVE ATTORNEY JEFFREY LEWIS. GOOD EVENING, RON DAVIES 8200 CENTRAL COLLEGE ROAD. I ALSO HAVE A PRESENTATION. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL TO PARTICULARLY COUNCIL MEMBER PRESS FOR SITTING THROUGH THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AND THINGS LIKE THAT. I KNOW WE WENT QUITE LONG AND SO WE'RE GOING TO GO, YOU KNOW. MAYBE NOT AS LONG TONIGHT, BUT UM AND I WON'T REPEAT THE THINGS THAT WE SAID ALREADY, BUT I THINK IF WE STEP ALL THE WAY BACK TO THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING, YOU KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT THIS SITE AND YOU LOOK AT IT FROM A LITTLE BIT MORE FURTHER OUT AND REALIZE JUST HOW ISOLATED THIS SITE IS. WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT IN TERMS OF THE SURROUNDING AREA. UM I DID BRING MY LOOK. YOU THINK SORRY. SO OBVIOUSLY, AS WE KNOW FROM THIS SITE, WHERE SURROUNDING ON THREE SIDES THAT IS PLAIN TOWNSHIP THAT IS NOT YOUR ONLY PROPERTY. THE ONLY TOUCH POINT WITH NEW ALBANESE ACTUALLY ON THE ROAD. UM AND OF COURSE, AS WE TALKED ABOUT TIDEWATER TO THE TO THE WEST HERE, UM, EXACTLY APPROXIMATELY HALF MILE FROM THIS DRIVEWAY TO SEND TO JOHNSTOWN ROAD. UM WE'RE NOT GOING TO TALK MUCH ABOUT THIS ROAD, BUT I WOULD TELL YOU WE COULD FUND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, PERHAPS BY VIOLENT TICKET CITATIONS AND TICKETING FOR PEOPLE MAKING ILLEGAL TERMS ON THAT ROAD. PRETTY MUCH MOST PART OF THE DAY. UM I KNOW WE'VE TALKED A LITTLE BIT WITH ABERCROMBIE AROUND THEIR TRAFFIC CONCERNS AROUND THIS PIECE OF THE ROAD. THEY HAVE AN ENTRANCE, OBVIOUSLY, ON THE WEST SIDE OF THEIR LOT. UM YOU KNOW, SPEAKING FOR A LITTLE BIT FROM AN INSURANCE EXPERIENCE, IT'S KIND OF A DANGEROUS INTERSECTIONS. 
          YOU WATCH PEOPLE COME AROUND FROM 60 TO MAKE THE RIGHT TURN WHEN PEOPLE COMING OUT OF OUR OR INTO THE ABERCROMBIE AND FITCH PROPERTIES. SO LET'S MOVE ON AGAIN. I THINK A COUPLE OF THINGS I'D LOVE TO TALK FIRST BIT ABOUT IS JUST TO CONFIRM AS WE THREW AROUND A LOT OF LOOSE LANGUAGE, THE BEGINNING OF THIS MEETING AROUND THREE PROTECTION ZONES, MY UNDERSTANDING AND READING THE TEXT, WHICH IS FINAL ONCE YOU VOTE TODAY IS THAT THERE IS NO TREAT PROTECTION ZONE ON THE EAST AND WEST THAT THE LANGUAGE IN THE UH, TEXT IS ACTUALLY TALKS ABOUT THE NORTH NORTHWEST AND APART AND THE PARTS ON THE SOUTH OF THIS PIECE , BUT THERE IS NO REFERENCE TO CHEAT PROTECTION ZONE IN THE CURRENT TEXT, LANGUAGE FOR THE EAST AND THE WEST. YOU WILL FIND THAT LANGUAGE LITTLE MORE IN SECTION H, WHICH IS ON BUFFERING , SO MAYBE I'LL PAUSE FOR A MOMENT JUST TO CONFIRM WE'RE GOING TO ADD LANGUAGE FOR TREAT PROTECTION ZONE OF EAST AND WEST. THE EXTENT IT'S NOT IN THERE WAS A CONDITION OF APPROVAL BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION, AND WE'VE STATED THAT WE WILL IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE IT. IT MAY HAVE SWITCHED OFF THERE. IT SEEMS LIKE WHEN WE PUT IT AWAY. IT'S THE NEW SWITCH. IT'S HOT. YEP, IT'S GOOD. TO THE EXTENT IT IS NOT IN THE TEXT. IT WAS A CONDITION OF APPROVAL OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION. AND WELL, WE'VE WE'VE AGREED TO ALL OF THAT. SO UM I THINK IS A CONDITION OF BEING ABLE TO GO AHEAD WITH THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN. THE OR THE TEXT WOULD HAVE TO BE AMENDED ITS FINAL FORM TO REFLECT THAT. SO, YES BEING SHORT. HEY, GUYS. BEFORE I ANSWER. THANK YOU, UM WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PRIOR PROCESS. AND YOU KNOW YOU WON'T GET INTO A LOT. BUT YOU KNOW, AS YOU READ PRIOR MEETINGS, MINUTES FROM ROCKY FORK PLANNING COMMISSION, MAYBE EVEN THE CITY COUNCIL AND PAST TIME OFTEN. THERE'S COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS AND COMMISSION MEMBERS AROUND WHERE IS THE COMMUNITY, RIGHT? AND SO OBVIOUSLY WE'RE HERE A BIT AND FORCES THIS EVENING, BUT YOU'RE THE ROCKY FORK MEETING WOULDN'T HAVE HAPPENED LIKE IT DID, EXCEPT FOR THE FACT THAT A CONVERSATION HAPPENED AS WE HAVE TO BE WRITING PASSED. THIS SECTION IS PROPERTY. THAT THE MEDIA IS GOING TO HAPPEN LIKE IN A WEEK. 
          AND SO, WITH THE WEEK'S NOTICE, WE MOBILIZE PART OF THE COMMUNITY TO COME AND SHOW UP FOR THE ROCKY FORK MEETING, WHICH IS WHY WE HAD TWO MEETINGS IS ALSO WHY WE HAD A VERY LONG PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AS WE CONTINUE TO LEARN ABOUT THIS DEVELOPMENT THIS PROCESS AND I KNOW THERE'S STATUTES AND STUFF LIKE THAT REGARDING NOTICE, 10 DAY NOTICE AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          UM MY PUSH TO YOU, THOUGH, IS THAT'S THE MINIMUM, RIGHT? YOU KNOW, THE MY UNDERSTANDING THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN IN THE WORKS FOR BASICALLY 12 MONTHS TO FIND OUT IN KIND OF APRIL 13TH OR SO 
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THAT THERE'S A ROCKY FORK MEETING. UM YOU'RE REALLY PUTTING THE COMMUNITY IN A POSITION WHERE THEY HAVE TO RESPOND ON SHORT NOTICE AND VERY QUICKLY BECAUSE WE'RE ALL AMATEURS AT THIS, RIGHT. SO WE'RE ALL JUST LEARNING AS WE GO, UM FEW POINTS WE'VE TALKED A BIT ABOUT, BUT YOU KNOW, I'VE KIND OF BEEN PUSHING TO ON THIS. I P U D DISTRICT PIECE BECAUSE YOU DO USE IT WITH A BIT OF LOVERS THAT YOU ENABLE YOU TO TURN THE DIALS ON AND AS THE PLANNING COMMISSION TALKED ABOUT , COMMISSION CHAIRED, KNEEL, ON THE OTHER HAND, CREATES A LOT OF ARBITRARINESS IN THE PLANTS, YOU KNOW. SO EVERY MEETING THEY HAVE . MAYBE THEY APPROVE SOMETHING OR PROVE SOMETHING OR DONNA PROVE SOMETHING, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE WHEN I WAS LISTENING TO THE PERGOLA CONVERSATION THIS EVENING WAS LIKE THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS. RIGHT YOU HAVE THESE EXCEPTIONS MADE THE H O A SHOULD HAVE BEEN ON THE BALL, PERHAPS AND FOUND THAT PERGOLA WAS VIOLATED, NOT APPROVED IT OTHERWISE WE'RE GOING TO OVERRUN ARE PLANNING COMMISSION BECAUSE YOU AND ANOTHER 151 HOMES TO THAT. TO THAT PIECE. SO UNIFORMITY I THINK IS IMPORTANT . OTHERWISE YOU BECOME ARBITRARY IS MY KIND OF WHITE. MY WIFE TALKED A BIT ABOUT WHEN YOU BECOME ARBITRARY. YOU BECOMING ACCEPTABLE TO LAWSUITS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, PARTICULARLY IF THE HOPE OF ACT EVER AGAINST MODIFIED CHANGED, THEN WE HAVE A LOT OF HOMES THAT POTENTIALLY HAVE HAVE CHILDREN. UM THIS PROJECT IS GOING TO BE AN ISLAND. I'M GONNA COME BACK TO THAT IN A MINUTE HERE, SO UM, I KNOW YOU'RE BEING ASKED A LOT. UM YOU KNOW, I HAVE WORKED FOR ABOUT DECADES WITH BOARDS OF DIRECTORS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, AND YOU GET A LOT OF MATERIAL THROWING AT YOU. UM YOU KNOW, THERE'S 16 PAGES OF ZONING TAX, WHICH I'VE READ A FEW TIMES NOW TO FIND OUT WHAT'S IN IT, AND PERHAPS WHAT'S NOT IN IT, SO I JUST LIKE TO POINT OUT SO IN ROMAN NUMERAL FIVE TURNED TO THAT FOR THOSE OF, UH THE YEAR THAT HAVE IT IN FRONT OF YOU, UM ROMAN NUMERAL FIVE TALKS ABOUT THE RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE, UH, H O A UM, IT READS AND I'M NOT A LAWYER, BUT IT READS LIKE THAT IS THE ALL THE RESPONSIBILITIES THE HAS. IT HAS TWO PARAGRAPHS. 
          UM IT TALKS A BIT ABOUT SOME STRUCTURE, AND IT TALKS ABOUT THE HOPE TO ACT. IT DOESN'T TALK MUCH ABOUT TREE PRESERVATIONS GARDENING ALL THOSE KINDS OF COMMITMENTS THAT ARE IN THIS DOCUMENT. UM, SO IT'S I GUESS UNKNOWN TO ME AFTER THE LAST HOME IS SOLD AND CON MOVES ON. 
          UM THEN WHAT HAPPENS TO THE H O A. IT JUST SO HAPPENS THAT WE LEARNED IN THE LAST CITY COUNCIL MEETING. WE HAD A RESIDENT FROM THE NOTTINGHAM COMMUNITY, WHICH I HAVE JUST GOTTEN FAMILIAR WITH A BIT THERE ON THEIR THIRD MANAGEMENT COMPANY, WHICH STRIKES ME AS A RELATIVELY NEW COMMUNITY STILL UNDER DEVELOPMENT, AND THEY CAN'T KEEP THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY, WHICH IS GERMANE TO THIS PIECE, BECAUSE THIS COMMUNITY TO MY UNDERSTANDING, UNLIKE THE OTHER ETHICON COMMUNITY WILL HAVE A FLOATING 15 HOMES THAT HAVE NON AGE RESTRICTION. HOW A NATURE WAY IS GOING TO MAINTAIN AND PROTECT THAT AND MONITOR THAT, UM, SEEMS PRETTY INTRUSIVE. BUT I KNOW WE'RE ALL COMMITTING AND THE A IS GOING TO DO ALL THIS STUFF. BUT ACTUALLY, THEY'VE GOT A PARAGRAPH OF WRITING ON IT. BUT AGAIN, THINK ABOUT PRACTICALITY OVER THREE OR FOUR OR FIVE OR 10 YEARS. THINGS HAPPEN. UM, WE'RE GRANDKIDS COME OR, YOU KNOW, KIDS COME BACK OR WHATEVER THAT ARE UNDER THE AGE OF 21. AND NOW SORRY YOUR NUMBER 16 AND NOT ABLE TO HAVE YOUR GRANDKIDS STAY WITH YOU AS RESIDENTS. SO UM, SO AGAIN, I WANT TO POSE THIS QUESTION TO YOU BECAUSE IT'S YOU HAVE A LOT ON YOUR PLATE TO READ A LOT OF LANGUAGE. UM I USE THIS PICTURE, ACTUALLY, BECAUSE THIS IS THE CURRENT CON PROJECT DOWN THE STREET. UM YOU KNOW, IT'S PRETTY NEW COMMUNITY AND YOU LOOK AT THIS POND. NOT A SIGN OF HEALTH . UH, THAT IS THE FRONT DOOR TO THE AFGHAN COMMUNITY ON 605, NOW, THANKFULLY, ARE PROPOSED APPLICATION HERE HAS A LOT OF TREES, PREVENTING THIS FROM BEING SEEN FROM CENTRAL COLLEGE . UH AND TREATMENT NORTH, SO BUT AS YOU GO DOWN SIX OR FIVE IF YOU PAUSE WHICH IS A FOUR LANE HIGHWAY WITH A MAJOR EMPLOYMENT ACROSS THE STREET. UM, YOU'LL SEE THIS AND THAT IS THE POND ON THE NORTH SIDE OF NORTH FRONT CORNER. SO, UM I DON'T THINK THIS PROJECT IS RIGHT FOR YOU ALL TO MAKE A VOTE ON THIS AT THIS POINT, UH, IT WAS ACTUALLY THE SAME APPROACH WE USED WITH THE ROCKY FORK MEETING THE FIRST MEETING, WHICH WE HADN'T HAD THAT POINT HAD NO MEETINGS WITH THE APPLICANT AND STUFF LIKE THAT. UH AND SO THERE'S JUST A LOT OF KNOWN UNKNOWNS. AND OF COURSE, THERE'S A LOT OF UNKNOWNS. AND AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT ALREADY THIS THIS EVENING , THIS TEXT IS NOT FINAL, RIGHT? AND SO MY UNDERSTANDING OF BEING A LAWYER IS THAT ONCE YOU VOTE ON THIS, LIKE THE TEXT, THEN YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE FINAL. BUT WE'RE HEARING MORE AND MORE ABOUT GOSH, MAYBE MAYBE IT'S NOT FINAL, AND SO MAYBE WE SHOULD PUSH OFF THIS VOTE UNTIL THE TEXT GETS TO BE WHERE YOU WANT IT TO BE, SO THEY WON'T TALK ABOUT ALL THESE ITEMS HERE BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY ADJUSTED 
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AND THANK YOU FOR STAFF FOR WORKING ON THE BULLET POINTS ON B AND C IN THE BOTTOM BECAUSE CAN NOT BEING A LAWYER. I HAD TO READ IT LINE BY LINE TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHERE IT WENT. AND IT WENT NOWHERE. SO LET'S TALK ABOUT IRELAND'S SO THIS IS THE 605 COMMUNITY, UH, COURTYARDS THAT NOBODY UH, AGAIN. IT IS IN A AREA THAT IS NOT AN ISLAND. THERE IS A COMMUNITY, OBVIOUSLY TO THE EAST. UH IT'S A MAJOR ROAD LIKE HERE'S THE COUPONS UPON IT TO PICTURES OF APPEAR. 
          YOU'VE GOT A MAJOR EMPLOYMENT, WHICH UNFORTUNATELY TIME THAT IS VACANT. I GUESS SO. UH, UM AND YOU'VE GOT OBVIOUSLY THE NORTH OF ALBANY PROJECT, WHICH I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE STATUS OF THAT IS. 
          WE'VE GOT NEW DEVELOPMENT COMING IN HERE THAT I LEARNED OVER THE PERIOD OF TIME, BUT IT'S NOT AN ISLAND. THERE IS A TRAIL ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE ROAD THAT CAN GET YOU DOWN TO TALK ABOUT THINGS LIKE THAT. IF YOU'D LIKE TO GO. UM WE DON'T HAVE THAT IN THIS PROJECT RIGHT, SO IT'S GOING TO BE AN ISLAND SURROUNDED BY PLANE TOWNSHIP. UM I'M NOT GOING TO GO INTO A LOT OF DETAIL HERE. UM BUT WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS SUPPOSED TO QUESTION AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE EAST AND WEST HOMES. BY THE WAY. THIS IS QUITE YOURS. NEW ALBANY AGAIN. THIS IS THE CENTRAL CORRIDOR. UM IS THERE AN EASEMENT ALL ALONG THE EAST AND WEST SIDE BECAUSE IF NOT, YOU HAVE ANY QUESTION AROUND IN THIS IN THE TEXT. THERE'S A IT'S KIND OF LIKE WHAT'S NOT SAID, UM, YOU HAVE THE EAST IN THE TEXT LANGUAGE, WAS BACK UP A MINUTE TALKS ABOUT SIDE GUARDS AND TALKS ABOUT FRONT YARDS. KIDNEY VOCABULARY WITH REGARDS TO THE REAR YARDS, WHICH, UH, NOT BEING A LAWYER. 
          BUT WORKING A LOT OF STUFF KIND OF CATCHES MY ATTENTION WHEN YOU START CHANGING THE CONSTRUCT OF THE DOCUMENT. YOU HAVE IRON J KINDA LIKE SKIPS. THE K K HAS DIFFERENT LANGUAGE AND AN EASEMENT. SO I'D LIKE TO PAUSE AND JUST SEE IF WE CAN GET CONFIRMATION THAT THE ENTIRE EAST AND WEST CLONES WILL HAVE EASEMENTS BEHIND THEM. YEAH I MEAN, THERE'S HE'S. HE'S THROWING A LOT OUT THERE REGARDING THE TEXT, SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN ANSWER AS MANY OF THOSE SHE'S KEEN. CONFIRMING ISN'T BEHIND THIS HOMES BEHIND YOURSELF FOR WHAT PURPOSE AND YES, THERE WILL BE 20 FT. THAT'S CORRECT. THANK YOU AND THE REASON THAT'S ENOUGH IMPORTANT. 
          IS AS WE WE'VE LEARNED OBVIOUSLY, LITTLE ABOUT 30, RIGHT EASEMENT STARTS WITH THE BACK WALL OF THIS BUILDING. SO UM, IN THE COURTYARDS, HAINES CREEK, THIS WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED . THAT WOULD BE MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE PENETRATION OR ENCROACHMENT UPON THE REAR EASEMENT WHICH WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED. THIS WOULD BE ALLOWED, WHICH IS UNFORTUNATE BECAUSE WE WORRY ABOUT THE FACT THAT WHEN YOU HAD THIS IN 22 HOMES ON THE EASTERN ON THE WESTERN SIDE TOPPED WITH A FEW GENERATORS. YOU HAVE A LOT OF NOISE, PARTICULARLY IN THE MOMENT. AH SO YEAH, I KIND OF SKIPPED THIS LANGUAGE BECAUSE I WAS TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THAT, UM, OTHER PIECE. YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT REAR YARDS AND REAR AREAS . YOU KNOW, WE'RE UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT THERE ARE NO REAR YARDS THAT MIGHT BE THOUGHT OF AS LIKE PLAYGROUNDS AND THINGS LIKE THAT OR OTHER THINGS FOR THAT, BECAUSE OF THOSE PIECES AND SO AND THIS WAS IN THE LANGUAGE AS WELL. RIGHT? UM YEAH. SCREEN PORCHES ARE ENCOURAGED ON THE REAR. UH THE HOME THAT IS THAT WAS IN THE TEXT AS A SUBMISSION. AH I THOUGHT IT WAS A SLIGHTLY. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS STUFF A LOT, BUT MAYBE YOU HAVEN'T SEEN TODAY TOMORROW. RIGHT? SO WE TALKED A BUNCH ABOUT THE TREES. THIS IS NORTH UP HERE. UM THIS IS ABOUT EIGHT ACRES OF TREES, AND MY NEIGHBOR WAS TALKING ABOUT THE AGE OF THOSE TREES, WHICH I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A CERTIFIED ARBORIST. COME IN. AND LOOK AT HIM. UM, WE'RE GONNA CUT ALL THOSE STREETS TODAY. TOMORROW TODAY, TOMORROW. UM, THAT IS A LOT OF WITNESS. AND ALL DESTRUCTIVE OF VARIOUS AGES. MY UNDERSTANDING NOT BEING AN EXPERT IS SOME OF THE TREES THAT I HAD THAT BORDER ON THIS PROPERTY RIGHT IN HERE IN A COUPLE OF HERE THAT AREN'T TOUCHED BUT COULD BE OVER 100 PLUS YEARS AND I HAVE NO IDEA NOT BEING ANY EXPERT. WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU DECIMATE THEIR NEIGHBORS THAT THEY'VE GROWN UP WITH OVER THE PAST 60 YEARS, 70 YEARS AND THEIR ROOT SYSTEM WHEN YOU CUT UP THE DRAINAGE. THAT'S ONLY GOING TO BE YET 30 FT. OF TREE PROTECTION AND THEN YOU HAVE A 20 FT EASEMENT OF OBVIOUSLY SOMETHING'S GOING ON THE GROUND THERE TO PUT THE DRAINAGE IN, UM SO ABOUT 80 ACRES. I HAVE OBJECTED WITH THE STAFF AND THE PLAN A FEW TIMES 
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HERE. THIS IS 22 HOMES. UM IT IS, I THINK THE LONGEST CONTINUOUS STRETCH OF HOMES IN NEW ALBANY. I HAVE YET TO HAVE ANYBODY CONTRA CONTRAST ME OR CORRECT ME. UM IT'S ABOUT A QUARTER MILE. IT IS A STRAIGHT SHOT. UM AGAIN, AS WE LEARNED TODAY, RIGHT? YOU HAVE A WALL. 
          NOW, THIS IS ONLY 17 HOMES HERE. UM SO YOU'RE ABOUT 29% LONGER ON THIS ROAD THAN YOU ARE IN THE CURRENT COURTYARDS IN THE ALBANY . THIS IS WHERE WE THINK WE SHOULD HAVE A BREAK. WE SHOULD YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A WILDLIFE. I HAD DEER IN MY FRONT MY FRONT DOOR TODAY. IT WAS AN AMAZING SO , UM WE THINK THESE HOMES SHOULD BE BROKEN UP OR MOVED, UM, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY, WE COULD TAKE A FEW HOMES OUT OF THE MIDDLE. PUSH THESE TOGETHER. I UNDERSTAND THE ECONOMICS MIGHT BE DIFFERENT FOR THE DEVELOPER. UM BUT THEY CAN MAKE THAT DECISION. WHAT MIGHT BE. I KNOW THE PLAN. OTHER STAFF IS REALLY TIRED OF ME BRINGING THIS UP, BUT I NOT GOING TO LET THIS DOG GO. UM IN OUR PLANNING GUIDELINES. SECTION SEVEN FOR NEW ALBANY. VERY SIMPLE LANGUAGE . IT'S LIKE TWO PAGES. UM IT HAS THESE DEFINITIONS OF WHAT IS AN ISOLATED SITE. I WILL CONTINUE TO A PINE THAT THIS IS AN ISOLATED SITE THAT MEETS THE DEFINITIONS OF THOSE, UM AND WE KNOW TO THE WEST IS ABERCROMBIE AND FITCH, WHICH IS AN ISOLATED SITE, AND THEY DO A PHENOMENAL JOB, ISOLATING IT, PROTECTING IT, HAVING OPACITY FROM THE NEIGHBORING TREE PEOPLE AND THE COMMUNITY AND ROADS, ETCETERA. THIS IS AN ISOLATED CITED, AND WE BELIEVE THAT LEAST I WILL SAY I BELIEVE SHOULD BE TREATED AS SUCH. AND WHY IS THAT IMPORTANT? IT'S BEGINNING TO COME BACK TO STAFF, BUT I THINK THE GANG STAFFS INTERPRETING SOME STUFF, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN THAT HAPPENS, BUT IT'S NOT IN THE LANGUAGE. THE PLAIN READING OF THAT GUIDELINE. EXPRESSES IT BY THOSE DEFINITIONS ON THE PRIOR PAGE. THIS PROPERTY MEETS THAT AND IT IS A SITE. THE WORD SIDE IS THROUGHOUT THE TAX ETCETERA AND THE PLANTS AND THEIR DRAWINGS. SO I NEED TO SAY SO. 
          WHY IS IT IMPORTANT? BECAUSE THE CURRENT PLAN DOES NOT SHOW IT MEETING YOUR CAPACITY REQUIREMENTS OF BEING AN ISOLATED SITE. SO AGAIN, I'LL BRING IT UP. AND IF I HAVE TO JUST GET KEEP BEATING THIS DEAD HORSE, SO, UM SO FINAL PIECES ABOUT PARKLAND. UM YOU KNOW, IT STRUCK ME AS ODD. WHEN I FIRST HEARD ABOUT THE RED. THE PLAN WAS THAT HEY, WE CAN TRADE OPEN SPACE FROM OVER HERE TO THE OTHER SIDE OF TOWN. EVEN THOUGH LIKE, HEY, YOU GUYS YOU GET IMPACTED BY LOT, HAVING THE OPEN SPACE AND PARKLAND WHERE IT'S GOING TO THROW IT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF TOWN AND IT ALL BENEFITS. EVERYBODY UNDERSTOOD, UNDERSTAND THE THEORY, BUT IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE CASE. UH, HERE WE LEARN ABOUT THIS $42,000. AMOUNT THAT'S BEEN USED IN THE PROPOSAL, AND IT STRUCK ME FOR A LONG TIME. LIKE EIGHT WEEKS WHERE THAT NUMBER CAME FROM, SO I WENT SEARCHING MY BED IS YOU GUYS ALL KNOW, BUT I DON'T THINK I'M GONNA PIECE BUT SO, UM, SO TWO THINGS, OBVIOUSLY THE 42 THOUSANDS A NUMBER FROM THE PAST, UH, MARKET VALUATION BY SOMEBODY, UM WE ALSO KNOW IT'S PROBABLY DONE BEFORE THE PRIOR INTEGRITY FOR INTELLIGENT ANNOUNCED IN RECENT I HEARD THERE'S INFLATION AND PROPERTY RIGHT NOW. SO UM NOT, YOU KNOW, KIND OF LIKE THE GENTLEMAN THAT WAS ON THE SPOKE TO CITY COUNCIL . UH TWO WEEKS AGO, I HAD TIME, SO I ACTUALLY WENT LOOKING TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHERE NEAR THE METRO PARK WITH LAND HAD BEEN BOUGHT. FOR THAT PRICE. WELL I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S THE RIGHT PIECE, BUT I DID FIND THIS PIECE WAS BOUGHT 12 AND IN DECEMBER OF 2020. FOR A PRICE OF 1.56 MILLION. UH 37 ACRES WHICH CAN DO THE MATH IS 42,000 ACRE, AND I THOUGHT AHA! OKAY SO WHAT'S WRONG WITH THAT? DATA POINT THAT WELL? INTEL IS ANNOUNCED IN JANUARY 2022. SO INTEL CAME IN AND, LIKE T SEEMS LIKE PRICES WENT UP. WE'VE HAD TWO YEARS OF INFLATION. UM I CAN'T FIND ANY LAND REALLY FOR SALE NOW. BUT AGAIN, THERE ARE SOME PIECES HERE IN THE GREENS AND THE DETAIL. OBVIOUSLY MOST OF THESE HAVE HOMES AND THIS IS PROBABLY APPOINTMENT WITH DOZENS IN A SENSE OF THE SMALLER HOME. UM AND SO THE REASONABLE PRICE BUT STILL 100 AND $2000 AN ACRE. IN OCTOBER OF 21. UM CAN DOUBLE HEIMER IN WALNUT? UM NO EXPERT HERE. IT'S JUST PEACE WAS MOVING AROUND THAT LOOKED LIKE THE 1936 ACRES WITHIN BROKEN UP AND RESOLD AND TRANSFERRED. I DON'T KNOW THAT SOMEONE BUT THAT'S JUST THIS IS ALL KIND OF ONE THAT SAY, BUT YOU KIND OF SEE THE INFLATION FROM THIS PIECE OF 72 K AN ACRE. THIS IS A SUB PERSONAL I BELIEVE. AND IT'S GONE FOR 2 70 ACRE, WOULD YOU WOULD YOU DO THAT MATH SO AGAIN? EXPENSIVE UH, SO DON'T GO ALL THROUGH THESE BECAUSE I THINK WE HIT HIM A LOT, BUT WE'RE ASKING FOR A LOT OF WAITERS. I SHOULDN'T SAY WE THE APPLICANTS ASKING FOR A LOT OF WAIVERS, INCLUDING GARAGE DOORS WITH RESTRICTIONS WHERE WE CAN 
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VIOLATE TO IT FOR THAT. I'M GOING TO GRADUATE IN THE FRONT, AND THAT'S THE FIRST THING I LEARNED WHEN I STARTED LOOKING FOR A HOME IN NEW ALBANY 11 12 YEARS AGO, I WAS LIKE, YEAH, NO GARAGES ON THE FRONT. UM OKAY, WE'RE WAVING THE FRONT FACADE SETBACK BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY WAY IT WORKS. WE'RE HAVING THIS WAVING THE PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT BECAUSE THERE'S NO CHILDREN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD EVEN THOUGH IT'S 15 HOMES THAT ARE TOUCHING GONNA HAVE SO I WANT, YOU KNOW, I JUST DID. SO I THINK THE APPLICANTS ASKING A WHOLE LOT OF YOU AS YOU GO THROUGH ALL THIS STUFF. UM AND YOU'RE DOING IT IN THE FACE THAT I WOULD SAY STRONG, VISIBLE AND CURRENTLY PRESENT COMMUNITY OPPOSITION. NATURAL FRONT DOOR. ANY QUESTIONS FOR COUNCIL. JUST ONE FOR STAFF PRICE BREAKER. 
          PLANNING COMMISSIONER PROPERLY. HOW IS THAT ARRIVED THERE THERE WAS THERE WAS ARRIVED BY THE PRICE THAT WE PAID FOR THE 73 ACRES THAT PEOPLE HAMMERING MOMENT. EARLIER THIS YEAR. 
          PLAYING RIGHT DOWN THE STREET. HMM. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. ALRIGHT THEN THAT TAKES US TO THE LAST SPEAKER WHO FILLED OUT A CARD AND THAT WOULD BE MR LEWIS. MR LEWIS, PLEASE. 
          ABSOLUTELY. JUST TO BE PASSED THE NET IT INTO THE REST. MR. LIST, THE NAME AFFILIATION ADDRESS. GOOD EVENING, YOUR HONOR MEMBERS OF THE POLICE COUNCIL. MY NAME IS JEFF LEWIS. 
          I'M GONNA ATTORNEY. I REPRESENT THE DAVIES IN THIS MATTER. AND, UH, EVEN THOUGH RON WAS UP HERE SET FOR FIVE TIMES HE WASN'T A LAWYER. I THINK FOR THE FIRST TIME, I'M LIKE 42 YEAR CAREER. I FEEL THAT MAYBE MY CLIENTS DIDN'T NEED ME. AH. MAYBE HE'S GONNA ASK ME FOR DISCOUNT ON BECAUSE HE DID ALL THIS RESEARCH, WHICH WAS VERY, VERY, VERY GOOD. AH! COUNCIL I USUALLY REPRESENT DEVELOPERS. I'VE BEEN DOING IT FOR 42 YEARS, I HAVE REPRESENTED PRETTY MUCH EVERY MAJOR DEVELOPER IN THIS CENTRAL HIGHWAY AREAS, SOME POINT OR ANOTHER. AND I UNDERSTAND THE NEED TO HAMMER TIES. YOUR LAND COST OVER AS MANY UNITS AS POSSIBLE. AH AND I HAVE ADVOCATED FOR THAT ON MANY OCCASIONS. BUT TONIGHT I'M SWITCHING HATS AND I AM ADVOCATING ON BEHALF OF TOO LONG TIME TO ALBANY RESIDENTS WHO HAVE A LOT OF STEAK WITH RESPECT TO THIS ISSUE. BEFORE I BEGIN. I'D LIKE TO APPRECIATE. UH AARON AARON WAS KIND ENOUGH TO MEET WITH MY CLIENTS AND MYSELF ON A COUPLE OF OCCASIONS. HE'S BEEN NOTHING BUT PROFESSIONAL, AND I LIKE TO THINK THAT'S BECAUSE HE STARTED HIS CAREER UNDER ME, BUT THAT'S ANOTHER STORY. UH HE TALKED ABOUT MAKING IT CONCESSION FROM 20 FT SET BACK. 2 50 FT SETBACK. ACTUALLY, IT'S A SET FORWARD. AND I COUNTED BEFORE ONE OF THE OTHER BOARD MEETINGS. THE THESE BIG CARPET SQUARES, ANGER ABOUT 2 FT. EACH OF MY 1 FT FOOT IS ACCURATE. AND I'D LIKE YOU TO TAKE FOR A MINUTE. AND LOOK ALLOW ME TO TELL YOU AND SHOW YOU SO YOU CAN VISUALIZE WHAT 50 FT MEANS. FROM ME. TWO. NOW. THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS. I NOTICED THAT, UH. YOU HAVE A LOT OF REGULATIONS AND UNWRITTEN RULES AND FOLKS CITIES ALL THE TIME. SPEND MONEY, LOTS OF MONEY. ON DEVELOPING WHAT I LIKE TO REFER TO AS MASTER PLANS OR ASPIRATIONAL PLANS. AND WE PUBLISHED BROCHURES AND WE CIRCULATE THEM AMONG THE RESIDENTS, AND WE PUT THEM ON. UM INTERNET AND EVERYONE LOOKS AT THEM, AND IT'S KIND OF A FEEL GOOD KIND OF THING FOR RESIDENTS. THE OTHER THING THAT HAPPENS ON THE CITY SIDE AND I GET UP. THIS IS A CRITICAL I DON'T MEAN TO BE CRITICAL WHEN I 
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SAY THIS BECAUSE IT HAPPENS IN EVERY CITY OR TOWNSHIP OR VILLAGE OR COUNTY THAT HAVE EVER DONE WORK IN FRONT OF WE TAKE THESE ASPIRATIONAL? UH THINGS THAT WE HAVE IN OUR MASTER PLAN , AND THEN WE TRY AND RAPE THEM OR ASSIGNED POINTS TO THE NOT ALWAYS KIND OF THOUGHT WHEN I WATCH FIGURE SKATING OR THINGS THAT ARE NON OBJECTIVELY VIEWED HOW THE POINTS ARE AWARDED. AND IN THIS CASE, YOU'RE PLANNING DEPARTMENT HAVE CHECKLIST DOWN THERE AND TOOK A LOOK AT THIS DEVELOPMENT. AND AWARDED POINTS . WELL THEY KIND OF MET THAT. SO WE GAVE HIM 10 POINTS FOR THAT, OR 50% FOR THAT, OR 100% FOR THAT. AND I ALWAYS FOUND THAT KIND OF ODD BECAUSE WE CAN ARGUE ABOUT OBJECTIVITY ALL DAY LONG. I'M SORRY. SUBJECTIVITY WE CAN'T ARGUE ABOUT OBJECTIVITY. BUT I THINK THAT. MS. BRISK HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD WHEN SHE TALKED ABOUT WHY IT HAD TO BE A QUARTER OF MILE RUNNING HOUSE BACKS THAT ARE NOT BROKEN UP. THAT'S WHAT MY CLIENTS ARE GOING TO BE VIEWING. FOR THE NEXT. NUMBER OF YEARS THAT THEY LIVE IN. THIS HOUSE. AND ALSO I WILL GUARANTEE YOU THAT EVEN THOUGH THERE MAY BE AN ARBORIST THAT COMES OUT AND TAKES A LOOK AT THIS BEAUTIFUL TREE STAND THERE. THAT YOU CAN'T START DIGGING FOR UTILITIES THAT CLOSE AND NOT HAVE SOME EFFECT. ON THE TREE LINE. YEAH. I'M NOT GOING TO REPEAT EVERYTHING THAT EVERY RESIDENT IN OPPOSITION CAME HERE TO SAY TODAY. BUT I WILL SAY ONE THING. THAT THERE ARE MANY ITERATIONS OF THIS PLAN THAT COULD BE USED AND COULD BE DEVELOPED. THAT HAVE NOT BEEN AND I GET THE DENSITY IS SUPPOSEDLY A DEAL KILLER. FOR DEVELOPERS AND HAVING REPRESENTED DEVELOPERS. I HAD ENGAGED IN THAT ARGUMENT ONLY TO FIND OUT THAT WE NEGOTIATE SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT LESS TOWARDS THE END OF THE PROCEEDINGS. SO COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WE TOYED WITH, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY THAT YOU'RE PLANNING DEPARTMENT DOESN'T WANT BACKYARDS FACING THAT WAY, BUT I DON'T SEE ANY REASON WHY THIS PLAN COULDN'T BE MADE BETTER IF WE WANTED TO BREAK UP THIS QUARTER MILE OF HOUSES. HOUSE BACKS. MY CLIENTS ARE GOING TO LOOK AT AND MAYBE PUT EIGHT LOTS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE NORTHERN STREET THERE. THAT WOULD MAYBE ACHIEVED THE SAME DENSITY OR CLOSE. AND BREAK UP THIS QUARTER MILE OF BACK. PROPERTIES THAT MY CLIENTS WOULD HAVE TO FACE. JEFF, I'M SORRY. 
          JUST WHERE ON THE ON THIS DIAGRAM. WE'LL GET THE OTHER EIGHT TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO USE THIS THING. SO YEAH, SORRY. ANYBODY HERE WE GO. TAKE A FEW OF THESE LOTS OUT HERE THAT DIRECTLY AFFECT MY CLIENTS VIEW. AND PUT THEM UP HERE AND AGAIN. I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU'RE PLANNING DEPARTMENT HAS A POLICY AGAINST SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I'M NOT QUITE SURE WHY THEY COULD CERTAINLY EXPLAIN IT TO YOU. THE OTHER THING THAT COULD BE DONE IS THERE IS SOME AREA BACK HERE. 
          IF YOU TAKE A LOOK, AND MAYBE WE COULD GO BACK TO THE SLIDE THAT HAS TO ADOPT BLINDS ON IT. UM THE WHOLE, THE WHOLE DEVELOPMENT COULD BE SHIFTED. MAYBE ANOTHER 20 OR 30, FT. THIS WAY. AND WOULD MAKE THIS BUFFERS. SPEAKER AND PALATABLE TO MY CLIENTS AGAIN. I UNDERSTAND. ENGINEERING COSTS. I MEAN, DON'T GET ME WRONG. I'VE WORKED WITH THESE. JASON AND M H AND T GUYS, AND THEY'RE FINE ENGINEERS AND A LOT OF CLIENTS WHO HAVE HIRED THEM. AH AND THEY'RE EXPENSIVE, TOO. 
          SO I UNDERSTAND WHY ERRANDS CLIENT DOESN'T WANT TO MESS AROUND WITH THIS PLAN. BUT. THE PROBLEM OF FROM THE DEVELOPERS STANDPOINT, I THINK AGAIN ENGINEERING FEES AND DENSITIES. 
          THEY SAY IT'S PROBABLY A DEAL KILLER, BUT I AND MY CLIENT UNDERSTANDS THAT SOMETHING IS GOING TO GO HERE. I THINK WHAT'S IMPORTANT FOR COUNSEL TO UNDERSTAND IS THIS THAT I UNDERSTAND THAT THE PRELIMINARY PLAN THAT IS AH, SUBMITTED WITH THE P U D IS NOT WRITTEN IN STOKE. OHIO COURTS HAVE HELD ALTHOUGH IT WAS MONEY FOR A LONG TIME, BUT HAVE HELD THAT A 
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REASON P U D IS THAT REZONING AND NOT SUBJECT TO APPEAL TO THE COURT SYSTEM. IT'S ALWAYS SUBJECT TO A REFERENDUM. HOWEVER THERE'S CASE A LOT THERE THAT SAYS THAT THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN AFTER THE PROPERTY HAS BEEN REZONED IS APPEAL. TO THE COMMON POLICE COURT. AND I WOULD THINK THAT IF WE WOULD JUST WHAT YOU'VE HEARD HERE THIS EVENING, AND JUST WITH MY CLIENTS HAVE BROUGHT UP WITH RESPECT TO YOUR OWN STANDARDS. I WOULD I WOULD. I WOULD SAY I'LL DISCOUNT MY FEET, TAMMY, BUT I WOULD BE HAPPY TO REPRESENT THEM AN APPEAL OF A FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT DOESN'T MEET ALL THE STANDARDS THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT OUT TODAY. AND I WOULD WELL AND I SAY THAT I MAY WELL BE SUCCESSFUL. BUT FORGET ABOUT THE THREAT OF LITIGATION. THAT'S NOT WHY I'M HERE. WHY I'M HERE IS THIS NO ONE SHOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH IT. IF THE PLAN IS AMENDED AND MADE PALATABLE AND CURES A LOT OF THESE DEFICIENCIES. IN OTHER WORDS, UH , LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WHAT I'M ASKING YOU TO DO IS SEND THE DEVELOPER BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD. BECAUSE NOBODY NEED IT'S IN THE DEVELOPERS BEST INTERESTS TO GET ALONG WITH THE CITY AND THE NEIGHBORS DO AVOID LITIGATION BECAUSE I'M AND AGAIN I DON'T SAY THIS IS THE THREAT. 
          I DON'T WANT YOU TO TAKE A LOOK AT ME AND SAY, WELL, THIS GUY IS A JERK BECAUSE HE'S SAYING PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GET SUED. THAT'S NOT THE POINT. THE POINT IS YES, THINGS ARE PALATABLE AND REASONABLE AND DONE RIGHT THE FIRST TIME. WE WON'T HAVE TO GO DOWN THAT PATH AND IT'S GOING TO BE A BENEFIT EVERYBODY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I APPRECIATE YOUR CONCERN, OR YOU'RE YOU'RE INDULGING ME IN A YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER. AH AND THIS MAY NOT BE FREE QUESTION FOR YOU, MR LEWIS. UM I JUST FORGOT TO ASK MR DAVIES WHEN HE SAID THE PODIUM, BUT DO WE KNOW THE SETBACK FROM THE DAVIES HOMES TO THE PROPERTY LINE? I'M JUST TRYING TO JUST POINT OUT THE 50 FT. ANOTHER. MR DAVIS, IF YOU'LL STEP UP TO THE MICROPHONE, PLEASE. IT'S FOR THE RECORD. THE RECORDING WON'T CATCH YOU IF YOU DON'T HAVE UNDERSTOOD. 
          ONE SPEAKER, PLEASE. I'M SORRY. MAYBE MY QUESTION WOULD BE MORE APPROPRIATELY PHRASE. WHAT WHAT BUILDING STRUCTURE ON YOUR PROPERTY IS CLOSEST TO THE PROPERTY LINE. AND HOW MANY FEET IS IT? THAT'S THE BARN, WHICH I THINK. 40 45 TO 50. THEN YOU HAVE YOU HAVE ANOTHER HOUSE HERE? THAT'S ACTUALLY THAT'S OUR PROPERTY AS WELL. I DON'T OKAY? SO. AND THEN MR LEWIS SAID, HAD SUGGESTED THAT YOU KNOW PART OF THE POSSIBLE RESOLUTION TO SOME OF THE CONCERNS WOULD BE TO EITHER MOVE OR ELIMINATE SOME OF THE HOMES THAT ARE ON THAT WESTERN BOUNDARY. THE 23 HOMES UH, YOU KNOW, MAYBE I THINK HE SAID EIGHT. BUT YOU KNOW, IT SEEMS LIKE A BIG NUMBER TO TRY TO SHIFT TO THE NORTH. I DON'T THINK THIS WEBER WOULD BE VERY HAPPY WITH THAT. UM IS THERE ANOTHER NUMBER LESS THAN EIGHT THAT YOU KNOW IF YOU COULD, IF YOU COULD OPEN THAT CORRIDOR WHERE YOU DIDN'T HAVE THAT, YOU KNOW AGAIN, IT WOULD BREAK UP THE LINE OF THE 22. UM AND PROVIDE SOME RELIEF FROM A VISUAL STANDPOINT THAT YOU KNOW NEXT TO YOUR HOME. I WOULD SAY. 
          YEAH. I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY, I THINK THE DENSITY IS HIGH, RIGHT? SO YOU TAKE YOU'RE TAKING HOMES OUT OF HERE AND DEPENDING IF YOU'RE MOVING THEM OR JUST DELETING THEM, RIGHT? SO, UM I GUESS THAT'S PART OF THE NEGOTIATION PROCESS TO KIND OF FIGURE OUT WHAT'S THERE AND YOU KNOW, I THINK LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT WILDLIFE CORRIDORS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. IT'S UM YOU KNOW THE WATER THAT FLOWS THROUGH HERE? PASTIME WATER EGG, AND IT ALSO FLOWS THROUGH THERE TO TIDEWATER . RIGHT SO IT'S A THERE WAS A LOT OF WILDLIFE IN THAT AREA AND AGAIN. THIS TRIED, AND THAT'S THE BIG, WET ONES, RIGHT? FEDERALLY PROTECTED WETLANDS ON THE SAFE SIDE ACRES, WHICH IS OFF OFF DISTRICT, AS THEY SAY. BUT I THINK YOUR HONOR MIGHT BE SO BOLD. ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. I THINK THAT IF WE WOULD SEE MAYBE A DIFFERENT ITERATION THE PLAN THEN WE COULD MAKE IT DETERMINATION. WHETHER THAT WOULD BE SUITABLE OR NOT. I DON'T THINK THAT'S GREAT DEVELOPER TO COME BACK AND SAY, WELL, WHAT IF WE DID THIS? BUT IF WE DID THAT AGAIN, I UNDERSTAND ERIN HAS A CLIENT TO REPRESENT. BUT I POST THAT QUESTION TO AARON. AND I THINK I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR HIM, BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT'S NOT IN THE CARDS SO I THINK I ASKED 
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THAT QUESTION THIS EVENING. SPECIFICALLY FOR THAT REASON, I THOUGHT THAT WAS THE ANSWER THAT IT WASN'T AN OPTION. IF YOU WANTED TO SPEAK DOING A LOT OF YOU WANT TO COME UP AND SPEAK? YEAH WELL, WELL, BREAKING THAT FACADE BECAUSE IT DID COME UP IN PLANNING COMMISSION. IT WAS BROUGHT UP BY MORE THAN ONE INDIVIDUAL AND I DID LOOK AT IT AND THINK. OH, THAT IS YOU KNOW, NOT EASY TO LOOK AT. AND SO WE TALKED ABOUT YOU BROUGHT UP THE TREES, BUT I SAID TO YOU, IS THERE AN OPTION STILL TO DO SOMETHING TO BREAK THAT UP. OKAY UM, I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. 
          MAYBE I MISUNDERSTOOD THE QUESTION. WOMAN AS MANY UNITS AS THE CITY AND THE STAFF WILL ALLOW US TO MOVE UP TO THE NORTH OF THAT'S WHAT EVERYBODY WANTS. BUT WE'VE BEEN TOLD TIME AND AGAIN, AND I'VE BEEN DOING THIS LONG ENOUGH HERE THAT WE TYPICALLY DON'T BACK THE OPEN SPACE, BUT THERE'S A EXCEPTION TO EVERY RULE. WE WOULD DO THAT. YEAH, I'M LOOKING AT THIS S ST ST EIGHT. I SHOULD SAY RIGHT STREET EIGHT. I'M WONDERING IF RIGHT IN HERE, MAYBE EVEN UPON THIS NORTH SOUTH. STREET IF THERE'S SOMETHING WE CAN MAYBE EVEN DO RIGHT THERE THAT COULD STILL KEEP THE SAME NUMBER, BUT MAYBE MOVE AROUND. I DON'T KNOW THAT'S POSSIBLE, BUT. DRAINAGE PROBLEM. I THINK I THINK PART OF THE QUESTION BECOMES, IS IT? IS IT STILL POTENTIALLY PROFITABLE IF YOU LOSE 2 TO 4 MONTHS, THIS ONE. I THINK THAT'S PART OF THE QUESTION BECAUSE THAT ALLOWS SOME FLEXIBILITY TO MOVE IT AROUND. RIGHT, WE, YOU KNOW. THEN WE DON'T TYPICALLY PLAY THE GAME OF, YOU KNOW, SAYING, WELL, WE'RE GONNA GO AND ASK FOR MORE THAN WE WANT SO WE CAN NEGOTIATE IT DOWN. SO IT'S A VERY MUCH A HARDSHIP. ONE IDEA WE'VE HAD ALONG THE WAY IS, YOU KNOW IS IT REALLY NECESSARY TO HAVE THOSE FUTURE RIGHT OF WAY STUBS AND WENT WESTWARD AND BOTH LOCATIONS AND COULD COULD WE ELIMINATE A HOME AND REPLACE IT? WHERE ONE OF THOSE RIGHTS OF WAY IS? UM AND YOU KNOW, ESSENTIALLY RIGHT BY HERE. I MEAN, WE HAVE MR DAVIES PICKED PICKED UP A LOT, BUT INSTEAD REPLACE IT WHERE ONE OF THOSE STREETS FUTURE STREET SCRUBS STUBS WILL BE THAT'S AN OPTION. AND HERE AGAIN, WE'RE MORE THAN WILLING TO MOVE. YOU KNOW, WE THINK, MATT YOUR SUGGESTION. BE GREAT ACCEPTANCE OF DRAINAGE ISSUE, BUT WE DO THINK WE COULD PUT HOMES TO THE NORTH WHERE JEFF IS INDICATED. UM, ALONG YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT UP HERE, RIGHT? RIGHT MAYBE WE'D BE WILLING TO DO THAT. IT'S JUST WE HAD PLANS THAT SHOWED SITUATIONS LIKE THAT BEFORE, AND ITS STAFF HAS THAT BEEN SUPPORTIVE, SO WE DIDN'T GO THAT DIRECTION. WHAT WOULD YOU PUT? I MEAN, I KNOW THEY'RE JUST THINKING THAT STUFF AS YOU LIKE , WHAT WAS AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT, BUT WHAT WOULD YOU PUT IF YOU MOVE THOSE HOUSES? UM TO BREAK UP THE VISUALS AND YOU KNOW HOW WOULD THAT HELP THE SITUATION WHERE THE OPEN SPACE WITH ENVY OR YEAH. 17. COME ON UP. WOULD BE DANCING. GET YOUR QUESTIONS. SO HOW TO BREAK UP THAT SO IF LET'S SAY WE DID WHAT YOU DID WITH THE HOUSES ARE CAN YOU CAN YOU CAN YOU SPEAK TO POTENTIAL SOLUTION OF HOW THAT WOULD ALLEVIATE THE CONCERNS OF THIS WALL OF HOUSES THAT WE'VE BEEN HEARING ABOUT? LIKE, YOU KNOW, I WOULD BE INTERESTED TO HEAR LIKE WHAT SORT OF IT WOULD WOULD THERE BE MORE TREES THERE WOULD THERE BE YOU KNOW, I THINK THE TWO THINGS LET'S LET'S I MEAN, WE CAN TALK ABOUT A NUMBER IF WE CAN GET TWO FOR SOME NUMBER OUT OF THE WEST PUT ALONG THE NORTH. I THINK THAT OPENS UP. IF IT'S, TOO. IT'S A HUNT OVER 100 FT. OF ITS FOR ITS, YOU KNOW. 2 200 FT, WHICH WHERE WE COULD LEAVE THAT RIGHT TRANSITION. WE'LL HAVE TO TRANSITION AL GRAHAM HOMES ON BOTH SIDES THAT WOULD BE MORE OF A TRANSITION AREA. THEY COULD BE PRESERVED IF WE COULD PUT THE FOUR HOMES ALONG THE NORTH LINE, SO I THINK IT WOULD LOOK A LOT. YOU CAN TRULY BE A FLAG. SO COULD YOU WITH WITH WITH THERE BEING OPPORTUNITY THERE WHERE YOU COULD FOCUS ON PRESERVING LIKE THE TREES THAT ARE THERE, TOO, AS WELL. OKAY, SO WHAT'S THE SET BACK HERE? 250 PEOPLE. 
          250 FT FROM WE BELIEVE THE FRONT BUILDING OR THE REAR BUILDING LINE. WELL, I GET TO BE THE FRONT BUILDING PROPERTY, THE PROPERTY LINE, RIGHT? SO CONCEIVABLY THIS. ONE SPEAKER AT A TIME, PLEASE. FOR THE RECORD. YEAH. MHM YEAH, A COUPLE. ON THE STREETS. WE CAN DO IT. SO WHAT? 
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I WAS JUST GONNA ANSWER AND UNDERSTAND IF IT'S FEASIBLE TO DO THAT, THERE. CONCEIVABLY YOU CAN COME UP WITH SOME NUMBER. THAT WORKS. TO CREATE SOME BUFFER IN HERE NOT TO REPLACE THE WHOLE LINE. RIGHT TO BREAK IT UP IN SOME MANNER. THAT'S RIGHT. CORRECT. DO AND I LOOK TO YOU GUYS JUST SAY, POTENTIALLY DOABLE. PEOPLE APPROVED AND YOU COULD MODIFY THAT THAT WOULD BEING ACCOMMODATION. TO RESOLVING SOME OF THOSE CONCERNS. BUT SO WE JUST NEED TO UNDERSTAND. YEAH, I THINK, AND THIS WAS KIND OF FLOATED AROUND AGAIN. OUR HOMES ARE UNIQUE THINGS IN THE BACK OF THE HOMES . ALL OF SUDDEN, THERE'S THE DECKS AND PEOPLE ARE GOING TO EXTEND THEIR YARD. THAT'S NOT WHAT OUR COMMUNITIES ARE ABOUT. THEY STOP AT THE COURTYARD. 
          BASICALLY RIGHT KIND OF SAID OUR OUR HOMES COULD BACK UP. THE OTHER COMPONENT WE COULD CONSIDER WOULD BE TO TURN THEM ON THEIR SIZE NOW AND HAVE A LONG THAT NORTH LINE SO THEY WOULD BE INSTEAD OF YOU KNOW, THEN ALONG ALONG THE FENCE SO WE WOULD HAVE A SIDE ENTRIES ON A ON OUR GARAGE ON THOSE FOUR HOMES. AND THE COURTYARD WE COULD TALK ABOUT IT COULD EITHER FACE OUT THE SCREENING OR PROBABLY MORE LIKELY WE NEED TO FACE IN BECAUSE THE ARCHITECTURAL STANDARD WOULD LOOK LIKE TO MAKE SURE THERE'S ENOUGH. DIVERSITY. WE HAVE THOSE ALREADY COVERED IN THE CODE. THAT WHEN OUR HOMES SIDE ONTO A SIDE STREET WITH THE COURTYARD NEEDS TO BE SCREENED AND LANDSCAPE. SO I THINK WE HAVE THE ARCHITECTURAL AND COVER THAT. TO HAVE THEM FACE THE ROADS THAT THAT'S ANOTHER AGAINST. WE KIND OF WE HAVE. I KNOW THAT NEIGHBORS KIND OF THINK WE HAVEN'T WE HAVE TALKED A LOT ABOUT OPTIONS AND BACK AND FORTH, SO THIS ISN'T UNIQUE. BUT IT'S ONE THAT WE REACHED A POINT. I THINK BETWEEN THE COAST STAFF THEY PREFERRED TO DO THIS REPORT FOCUS MORE ON THE WEST SIDE, MODIFYING SCREENING LANDSCAPING, DIFFERENT FENCE TYPES JUST TO BREAK IT UP THAT WAY. I KNOW ONE THING. WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT WHAT WE WOULD. I MEAN, THEY SHOWED ALL THE ALL THE PHOTOS OF THE UNITS AND THEY'RE OUT THERE. WE WOULDN'T WE COULD AGAIN ADMIT TEXAS SCREEN THOSE AND HELP COVER THOSE AS WELL. SO PART OF WHAT WE DO, BUT OUR FOCUS WAS MORE ON THE SCREENING AND LANDSCAPING COMPONENT OF SCREENING THAT BOOK. WE THOUGHT BY GIVING THE ADDITIONAL SETBACK. I WAS GIVEN SOME CONSIDERATION FOR THAT COMPONENT, GIVEN THE FACT THAT I THINK STAFF WAS NOT SUPPORTIVE OF US MOVING OUT. ALL THOSE THINGS HAVE BEEN ON THE TABLE. WHERE MORE THAN OPENED UP MHM AS ACCOMPLICE. I THINK IN ANSWERING ANDREA'S QUESTIONS, SO. AS FAR AS WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE. I THINK IN YOUR CURRENT KHAN DEVELOPMENT OF 605, I KNOW YOU. BROKE UP THAT FRONT LINE OF HOUSES THAT ARE FACING THE POND WITH A PATH THAT LEADS OVER TO THE YOU KNOW THE PICKLE BALL COURTS SWIMMING POOL, ETCETERA. AND THAT'S ABOUT I'M TRYING TO. I LOOKED ON GOOGLE MAPS. IT'S NOT UPDATED AS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW MANY HOUSES YOU HAVE IN A ROW, HAD THE SPACE AND THEN YOU GO ON, AND I THINK IT'S A ABOUT SEVEN OR EIGHT. I THINK THAT THERE'S A SPACE THAT MAYBE ANOTHER EIGHT OR SO. UM AND THAT JUST VISUALLY, THAT LOOKED GOOD , AND IT ALMOST LOOKED LIKE YOU HAD A HOUSE OR TWO OF SPACE TO KIND OF PUT THAT PATH THROUGH. SO IF WE'RE LOOKING TO SEE WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE, I MEAN, THAT'S A I KNOW YOU DID IT THERE AND IT LOOKS GOOD. LOOKS LIKE TO PRIORITIZE THE TREES IN THE AREA WHERE THEY HAVE THE DENSEST VEGETATION JUST GIVEN A WILDLIFE CONCERNS. THAT WOULD BE THAT WOULD BE MY PERSONAL PREFERENCE TO MAKE THE BREAK WHERE WE CAN SAVE THE MOST TRYING TO SAVE THE MOST. YEAH. BUT I TOOK MICHELLE POINT. I UNDERSTAND. I THINK THAT THAT IT WOULD ALSO BE AESTHETICALLY PLEASING IF THERE COULD BE SOME SORT OF LIKE STRUCTURE IN THE BRAKES, BUT I I'VE JUST BEEN TRYING TO LOOK ON MY PHONE OF LIKE WHERE THE TREES ARE. ARE THEY ARE THEY NOW? WHERE COULD WE, YOU KNOW, PRESERVE THE MOST WILDLIFE WOULD BE DISCUSSIONS THAT DIDN'T COME UP DURING THE PLANNING COMMISSION WAS YOU KNOW THIS IS BEFORE THE ENGINEERING, SO THERE'S STILL GRADING STREET GRADES TRANSITION FROM HERE TO THE PROFITS. THERE'S STILL SOME DETAILS FROM AN ENGINEERING PERSPECTIVE. WHICH IS WHY ONE OF THE THINGS AS FAR AS WE WANT TO GET AN ARBORIST OUT THERE TO UNDERSTAND BETTER THE TREE ROW WHERE WE CAN SAY WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. WE ALSO DON'T WANT TO SAVE TREES THAT ARE DEAD. THAT'S GONNA CAUSE A PROBLEM FUTURE BUT OF COURSE, IF YOU IF YOU WOULD CONSIDER MOVING FORWARD TO THE THAT NORTH PIPELINE WE COULD THEN AS A PART OF PLAN. LOOK AT FOUR ALONG THERE, WHETHER IT BE FOR INDIVIDUALS SPACED OUT FOR TOGETHER TWO AND TWO. THERE MAY BE SOME SORT, YOU KNOW, 
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OBVIOUSLY WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORS, SEE IF WHAT THAT MAKES LOOKS LIKE TO THEM. BUT THAT COULD BE SOMETHING WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO WORK THROUGH ON THE FINAL LOAN PLAN AS WELL. ANY COMMENTS FROM STAFF ON UH BEING OF THE HOUSES THAT WOULD. I MEAN , YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY I THINK THERE'S UM. ALWAYS A GIVE AND TAKE RIGHT WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE SITE, AND YOU'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THE WITH THE RIGHT PLANNING PRINCIPLES ARE AND WHAT TO APPLY. WE'VE HAD A LONG STANDING, UM HISTORY OF ENCOURAGING DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS TO HAVE OPEN SPACES THAT ARE ACCESSIBLE TO THE PUBLIC. I MEAN, THAT'S WHERE THAT PLANNING STANDARD COMES FROM, SO WE DO HAVE LOTS THAT BACK ONTO, UM, OPEN SPACES THAT IT'S NOT THAT IT'S NOT ANYWHERE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY, SO I THINK THESE DISCUSSIONS ARE CERTAINLY VALID. UM AND WHEN IT'S APPROPRIATE CERTAINLY THAT HAS BEEN THE CONDITION IN THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT. BUT THE OVERALL PLANNING PRINCIPLE IS TO TRY TO UM, YOU KNOW, PRESERVE THROUGH PRESERVATION ZONES THAT WAS TREATED AREAS AND THEN WHERE YOU HAVE OPEN SPACE TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM YOU'RE CREATING ENOUGH OPEN SPACE SO THAT YOU DO HAVE THOSE KIND OF NATURAL AMENITIES THAT ARE ABLE TO LIVE IN THERE UNDISTURBED AS UNDISTURBED AS POSSIBLE, BASED ON THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE THIS DEVELOPMENT TAKING PLACE. I THINK FROM ALSO STAFFS PERSPECTIVE. WE AGREE WITH SOME OF THE COMMENTS EARLIER. THAT AREA IS VERY WET. THERE'S SOME CONSIDERATIONS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO WORK THROUGH DURING THE ENGINEERING PROCESS. I MEAN , A LOT OF THIS PROPERTY CURRENTLY DRAINS INTO THE BLACK LICK CREEK. AND SO THERE'S SOME JUST SOME SIGNIFICANCE, CONCERNS THAT THAT WILL NEED TO BE ADDRESSED FROM AN ENGINEERING STANDPOINT. AND THAT PARTICULAR AREA TO THE NORTH IS ALSO, UM, A BEAUTIFUL WETLAND AREA. AND SO I THINK STAFFS UM RECOMMENDATION WAS TO PROTECT THAT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, AND THEN ALSO MAKE SURE THAT IT WAS ACCESSIBLE TO THE PUBLIC BECAUSE THESE ARE ALL PUBLIC ROADS SO THAT ANYBODY CAN ENJOY IT. HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE MEMBER. ARE YOUR HOME ZERO ENTRY. YES OKAY, SO I WOULD ASK THE ENGINEERS WITH A ZERO ENTRY HOME. IT WAS FLOODING ISSUES OR FLOOD ROUTING ISSUES AT THE NORTH. WOULD THAT CREATE A PROBLEM WHERE YOU HAVE A RIVER RUNNING THROUGH SOMEBODY'S LIVING ROOM? I JUST HAVE A LOT DEGREE, OKAY? FEELS GIVE YOUR NAME AND AFFILIATION ADDRESS. PATRICIA BROWN E M H AND T 5500 NEW ALBANY ROAD. UM. THE DRAINAGE CONCERN, OBVIOUSLY IS ON EVERYBODY'S MIND AT LEAST MINE BECAUSE I CARE ABOUT WATER. 
          UM WE WOULD HAVE TO ENGINEER A SWAIL THAT GOES AROUND THE ENTIRE PROPERTY FROM THE NORTH TO THE BUILDINGS. UM THERE. IS SOME FALL FROM THE EAST TO THE WEST TO THE STREAM THAT'S CURRENTLY LOCATED THERE, AND WE WOULD HAVE TO TAKE THOSE PRECAUTIONS. OBVIOUSLY IF HOMES ARE PLACED THERE, UM IT GETS A LOT TIGHTER, ESPECIALLY WITH I BELIEVE ONE OF THE COMMITMENTS WE ALREADY MADE WAS ALSO TO SAVE THE TREES ON THE NORTHERN PROPERTY LINE AS WELL. UM, BUT THAT WILL BE SOMETHING. THAT WE WOULD NEED TO WORK OUT, BUT YOU MAKE THINGS HAPPEN. SO IS THE COST OF DOING ALL THAT IS THAT NAVY LIKE LESS THAN OR MORE THAN THE COST OF TAKING OUT FOR HOMES FROM THE PROJECT? I MEAN, I'M NOT JUST ASKING YOU TO PUT ON THE SPOT, BUT I THINK THAT THAT'S A WORD. THAT'S I'M SURE THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO THAT MAN. RIGHT? RIGHT. UM GENERALLY. 
          MY PROFESSIONAL OPINION, OBVIOUSLY, DRAINAGE, SWALES AND EARTHWORK IS MORE COST EFFECTIVE THAN LOSING OF LOTS FOR THE DANCERS. DON'T SIT DOWN. DON'T SIT DOWN. WE HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION FOR YOU. CAN I GET AN ANSWER TO MY QUESTION FIRST? BECAUSE YOU'RE COMING UP THE ANSWER MY QUESTIONS. ARE YOU COMING? AND ONE THING WE TALKED ABOUT THAT, TOO, IS THAT OUR TAKE IS AND AGAIN, OBVIOUSLY SOME DETAILS. WE NEED TO WORK OUT. BUT IF WE PUT OUR HOMES ON THE SIDE SIDEWAYS ON THE NORTH SIDE, IT'S ONLY GONNA BE 50 SOMETHING PLUS SETBACK AWAY. 
          THERE'S GONNA BE DRAINING AS IT'S NEEDED ALONG THERE ANYWAY, OR NOT. THIS WHALE'S GONNA GO THERE. SO ALL WE'RE SAYING IS, HEY, MAYBE IT'S A BETTER PLACE TO PUT FOUR HOMES OF PEACE. SOME OF THE CONCERNS. OKAY THANK YOU . ONE OTHER THING. I WOULD LIKE TO REITERATE THE HOMES. IF THEY DO GET PUT UP THERE. THEY WILL. AS JASON SAID, I WANT TO GO LENGTHWISE ALONG THE ROADWAY, NOT UM, TO BE THE FRONT FACING BACK JUST BECAUSE WE NEED AS MUCH ROOM AS WE POSSIBLY CAN TO THE NORTHERN PROPERTY LINE. AND I THINK THAT THE NEIGHBORS IN THE BACK ALSO WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A BIGGER BUFFER TAKING FROM BY THE WAY. SORRY. WHICH ONE OF THESE I'VE GOT ON SO. WHAT DO 
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YOU DO THIS AREA HERE? YOU'RE PUTTING RETENTION POND OR WHATEVER IN HERE. SO WHAT'S THE FEASIBILITY OF PUTTING SOME PROPERTIES HERE. SO I'M JUST LOOKING AT ALTERNATIVES. 
          ABSOLUTELY. FROM A DRAINAGE PERSPECTIVE THAT IS ONE OF AGAIN THE LOWEST SPOTS OF THE PROPERTY . SO OUR SITE IS TRIBUTARY TO THE NORTHWEST CORNER AND THEN THE SOUTHEAST CORNER. SO IT WOULDN'T BE. DESIRABLE CASTING. I DON'T LIKE TO PUT WATER UPHILL , OKAY. GOT A QUESTION FOR YOU BEFORE YOU SIT DOWN AGAIN. YEAH EASY QUESTION. UM, I'VE APOLOGIZED, I FORGET WHICH RESIDENTS SPOKE ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF DESTROYING WETLANDS. I DON'T BELIEVE WE WOULD BE DESTROYING WETLANDS. THAT ARE IN THIS PROPERTY, CORRECT. FOR THE PROPERTY IN TOTAL, YES. UM THERE ARE WETLANDS PRESENT ON SITE. A FORMAL DELINEATION HAS NOT BEEN SUBMITTED YET. BUT UM, GENERALLY SPEAKING, THERE ARE SOME WETLANDS THAT ARE USUALLY ALWAYS ON, YOU KNOW, EITHER FIRM FIELDS OR PROPERTIES LIKE THIS, BUT THAT WOULD BE SUBMITTED TO THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS TO HAVE THE DELINEATION. AND THEN ALL OF THAT WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH AND UM GO THROUGH ANY PERMITTING OR MITIGATION. PROCESSES WE NORMALLY WOULD THANK YOU THIS WONDERFUL BUT THEN. YOUR HONOR. IF I MIGHT JUST TWO MORE THINGS FROM MY CLIENT'S PERSPECTIVE. 
          FIRST OF ALL, WE WOULD WE WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUESTS THAT WE HAD SEVERAL ITERATIONS. SOMEBODY GET ON THE AUTO, CAD AND KIND OF GIVE US SOME IDEAS AS TO WHAT MIGHT BE PREFERABLE TO NOT ONLY MY CLIENTS, BUT OTHERS HERE IN THE SECOND THING, YOUR HONOR IS IF I COULD ASK THAT THE RECORD BE KEPT OPEN SO THAT I CAN I HAVE RON'S COMMENTS AND PRESENTATION IN MY BRIEF, BUT I DID NOT GET TAMAR IS IF I COULD EMAIL IT TO THE CLERK AND HAVE IT INCLUDED IN THE RECORD AS WELL. THANK YOU. HMM. JUST A QUESTION FOR STAFF BEFORE I MAKE SURE THERE'S NO ONE ELSE FROM THE PUBLIC THAT WANTED TO COMMENT. I KIND OF FEEL LIKE WE'RE EDGING INTO FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN CONVERSATION, AND WE MAY BE EXITED THE ZONING. PART OF THE OF THE PROCESS. I MEAN, ANY DISAGREEMENT ABOUT THAT? OH, GREAT. YEAH I KNOW. WE BELIEVE THAT'S CORRECT. UM, BEN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS ARE ON IT. UM BUT A LOT OF THESE DETAILS ARE THINGS THAT GET WORKED OUT IN THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN PROCESS. I MEAN , THERE'S STILL LAYERS OF ENGINEERING AND, UM, DUE DILIGENCE THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN, UM, AS A PART OF THE PROJECT, AND SO, UM, THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE THE IN THE PD TEXT THAT GUIDES THE OVERALL DEVELOPMENT AND SETS FORTH THE STANDARDS BY WHICH YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW WHEN YOU DO COME TO DEVELOP. UM BUT THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN REALLY SOLIDIFIES THESE KINDS OF DETAILED QUESTIONS. I WOULD SAY YES, WE STARTED OUR TOTAL OF THEM FURTHER THAN THE ZONE. 
          SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD IDEA. JUST AGREE WITH MS GRACELAND. UM ALL RIGHT, LET ME GO AHEAD AND OPEN UP TO THE PUBLIC. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT DID NOT FILL OUT OF SPEAKER CARD THAT WANTS TO SPEAK REGARDING THIS PROPOSED ORDINANCE? YOU WANT TO BOOST UP TO THE PODIUM? OH, COME ON, SIR. 
          YEAH THANK YOU. JUST PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF. GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. GOOD EVENING. 
          NOW. IF YOU LOOK UP ON THE MAP HERE, IF YOU COULD PLEASE GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD VALKYRIE, FA AND HOW DO YOU SPELL YOUR NAME? PLEASE HOW DO YOU SPELL YOUR NAME? PLEASE, ER I SAY THANK YOU AND YOUR LITTLE PROBLEM, YOU KNOW, AND YOUR ADDRESS, PLEASE ANYONE? 54 CENTRAL COLLEGE. THANK YOU. GO AHEAD. YOU'RE GOOD, AL. SO WHAT I WANTED TO BRING UP WAS JOHN. 
          RIGHT? HERE IS THE GENTLEMAN ON THE END OF THAT THREE PROPERTY THERE TO ALL THREE OF US ARE 10.65 ACRES. RON BEING TO THE FAR EAST AND THEN THE MIDDLE. I AM AND THEN JOHN'S GOT THAT BEAUTIFUL, STABLE WITH HORSES. AND I GOT THE BEAUTIFUL BUILDING WITH CHICKEN, SHEEP AND GOATS. 
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THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG WITH THAT GUY. SO I LIKE TO ASK A COUPLE QUESTIONS IF I MAY 1ST OF ALL, MR JOSEPH STEFAN OFF. HOW DO YOU PRONOUNCE THAT NAME? IS THAT CORRECT? YOU GOT IT. 
          CORRECT WANNA THANK YOU FOR BEEN LIVING HERE? 30 YEARS AND YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? AND THIS HAS BECOME HEAVENS WORLD FOR ME, UH , OF EVERYTHING, ALL THE DEVELOPMENT THAT OCCURRED THAT WE'RE HERE, AND IT'S I CAN'T SAY ENOUGH ABOUT THE TOWN. BUT THANK YOU FOR THAT BEAUTIFUL CIRCLE THAT YOU PUT IN. UH, WHAT'S THAT CIRCLE? YOUR IDEA? HE INSISTED ON HIS NAME BEING THERE WAS THE GENTLEMAN THAT DESIGN DOES RUN THE WHAT DO YOU CALL HIM RUN ABOUT ROUNDABOUT. DESIGNED THOSE NOT DR MARSH, EITHER. UM, BUT NO. I THINK OUR CITY ENGINEER AT THE TIME PLAYED A ROLE IN THAT, UM MR FERRIS. BUT YEAH, I DON'T KNOW WHO CONSTRUCTED THE ROUNDABOUT IT MARKET. I MEAN, DOES ANYONE REMEMBER? I BELIEVE IT WAS DESIGNED BY OH, I DON'T KNOW WHO THE GENERAL CONTRACTOR. 
          OKAY THEY'RE BEAUTIFUL. FIRST OF ALL MY WIFE HERE, THERE'S NOT LIKE TO GO AROUND THE RUNABOUT. 
          WHEN SHE FIRST CAME OUT HERE, SHE SAYS, I'M VERY NERVOUS GOING AROUND US NOW. SHE THINKS THE WORLD OF THEM SO, SIR, YOU'RE MAKING A BIG HEADWAY HERE IN THE OFFICE. EXCUSE ME WHAT I'D LIKE TO SAY THIS ON THE PROPERTIES HERE. YOU KNOW THE PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE ON THE WEST SIDE WHERE THE DAILIES ARE. AND ALSO YOU KNOW OUR HOUSES, MR DAVIES HOUSES 7300 SQUARE FEET. I THINK I MENTIONED THIS. THE LAST TIME WE WERE HERE, AND HE'S GOT A BEAUTIFUL, BEAUTIFUL AREA THERE. 
          AND THEN I HAVE, OF COURSE, A LOT LESS. MY RANCH. IS ABOUT 2900 AND JOHN'S PROBABLY ABOUT 4000 SQUARE FEET. THE ONLY PROBLEM THAT I HAD WAS AND I MADE IT TO THE GENERAL THERE. 
          UH, VICE PRESIDENT. I SAID, CAN YOU PLEASE BUILD SOME SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT ARE HIGHER UP? SO THAT WAY WE GOT SOME GOOD SHOWING OF THE HOUSES THERE AND HE SAID, WELL, WE CAN BUILD SOME 3800 SQUARE FEET HOMES, TOO, AND THAT WAS PLAYED. BUT THE 1200 WAS A LITTLE BIT TOO. THE BUILDINGS AND 1200 SQUARE FEET, TOO. YES, YEAH PERCENT. 2% 14. YEAH I THINK WE HAVE THE CODE SET UP TO ALLOW A SEARCH FOR SENATORS COULD NOT BE. WHAT'S THAT IT'S 1400 SQUARE FEET, THE MINIMUM BUT WE HAVE ALSO A PERCENTAGE. PERCENT 25% AT THE MAX. OKAY? THE PLACE TO WORK. WE DON'T. IT'S NOT MR. CAN YOU PLEASE COME OVER OUR HOUSE SO WE CAN GET A LITTLE BIT OF THE ITALIAN WINE ON THE TABLE BUILT IN FOUR OR FIVE COLUMNS. I'M SORRY. DAYS THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO SAY, GUYS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YOUR IT'S IN GOOD HANDS HERE. WHATEVER DECISION THIS COUNCIL MAKES WERE WITTY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I'M SORRY, MR COFFEE. WHAT WAS THE 25% DIDN'T CATCH IT'S A IT'S A 25% OF 1400 SQUARE FEET. 25% ARE THE 1400 CATHOLIC HOW MANY THEY CAN HAVE 16. UM I JUST JUST CLOSE TO PUBLIC HEARING. YES. SORRY. ANY OTHER MEMBER FROM THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS COUNCIL, RIGHT? WELL THEN I THANK EVERYONE FOR THEIR PARTICIPATION. I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND AGAIN ASK COUNSEL FOR ANY QUESTIONS OR OBSERVATIONS. MINE. MINE'S REAL QUICK TO STAFF AND I MIGHT HAVE MISSED THIS EARLIER, MR. MAYOR, WHEN YOU ASKED THE QUESTION, HOMEWOOD PURCHASE THAT LAND. WHEN DID HOMEWOOD PURCHASE THAT LAND ORIGINALLY, I DON'T REMEMBER WHEN IT WAS RIGHT AFTER THE TIDEWATER SUBDIVISION WAS BUILT LIKE MY MEMORY'S A LITTLE FUZZY. I'M I'M GOING TO SAY ABOUT 3000 FOR ME. YEAH THAT'S FROM FOUR OR FIVE. OKAY, THANK YOU. 20. STAFF JUST SOME CLARIFICATION AGAIN. THERE WAS SOME GIVE AND TAKE BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN THE DEVELOPER, MR MR LEWIS. EXCUSE ME, THE APPLICANT, MR LEWIS REGARDING BREAKING UP THE 23 HOMES ON THE WEST SIDE. IN SOME FASHION. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT HAS TO BE IN THE ZONING TEXT AND IN PART OF THE ORDINANCE, OR IS THAT PART OF IT? FINAL DEVELOPING PLAN? AND THEN MY NEXT QUESTION WAS 
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SIMILAR. IS THERE THEY'RE SOUNDED TO BE A COMMITMENT FROM THE APPLICANT TO PROVIDE SCREENING. FOR THE HBC, A UNITS THAT WOULD BE OUTSIDE THE YOU KNOW THE FENCED ENCLOSURE. AH ALONG THE PROPERTY LINE ON THE EAST AND WEST, BUT THAT HAVE TO BE PART OF AN AMENDMENT TO THE ORDINANCE OR IS THAT PART OF THE FINALS DONE IT SO I RECOMMEND FOR CLARITY THAT CITY COUNCIL ON THE FLOOR TONIGHT ADD THOSE AS CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL, IN ADDITION TO STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THAT SLIDE OF ARE PRETTY UPDATES. JUST TO MAKE SURE IT'S CLEAR ON THE RECORD THAT THOSE WILL BE LOOKED AT AS PART OF THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN. OKAY? AND THEN JUST A QUESTION TO APPLICANT. I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE REACHED THE LEVEL OF CONSENSUS REGARDING BREAKING UP THOSE 23 HOMES. YOU KNOW? ERIN AS YOU KNOW, I'M ALWAYS HESITANT. EVER SUGGEST THAT SOMETHING BE TABLED? YOU PUT A LOT OF EFFORT INTO IT. WE'VE HAD A LOT OF PUBLIC PARTICIPATION. YOU'RE THE APPLICANT. NOT SUGGESTING AND WE'RE GOING TO FORCE A TABLING, BUT IS THE APPLICANT WILLING TO CONSIDER A BIT OF A BREAK IN TIME TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION TO SEE IF IT CAN BE WORKED OUT? UM YOU KNOW, OUR STRONG PREFERENCE WOULD BE PREFERENCE WOULD BE TO COME UP WITH A CONDITION THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO DEAL WITH THIS FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN. BUT IF YOU'RE NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THAT, I THINK WE WOULD TABLE. UM THERE'S BEEN BEEN AT THIS A WHILE. SO A CONDITION SUCH AS YOU KNOW. THE APPLICANT WILL RELOCATE AT LEAST FOUR UNITS ALONG THE WESTERN BOUNDARY LINE TO ANOTHER LOCATION, WHICH MADE BACK MAY OR MAY NOT BACK, OPEN SPACE, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. TIME OF FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN WOULD BE A CONDITION THAT WE COULD LIVE WITH. WAS IT FOUR UNITS, SOMETIMES? FOUR UNITS. H TWO IS I THINK THIS IS GONNA BE BETTER SERVED AT FINDABLE PLAN BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, EVEN IF WE TABLE WE'RE GONNA COME BACK INTO ITS. WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THE DETAIL TO REALLY WE CAN KIND OF GUESS WE CAN KIND OF GO AHEAD. WE THINK THESE ARE THE RIGHT PLACES. DAVIES MAY SAY IT'S THE RIGHT PLACES, AND I THINK IT'S BETTER SERVED. WE HAVE MORE ENGINEERING REALLY SAY WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD ALONG THERE. WE'RE GONNA RELOCATE THE FOUR ALONG THAT NORTH PROPER ALONE NORTH ROAD. AND THEN LET THE ENGINEERING DESIGN KIND OF TAKE PLACE AND THEN ALLOW THAT TO DICTATE WHERE THE BEST LOCATIONS ARE TO SAVE TREES. OBVIOUSLY DAVID PART OF THAT AS WELL, WE COULD MAYBE SAY, GIVING DUE CONSIDERATION TO OUR NEIGHBOR ON THE WEST AND TO THE PRESERVATION, MAXIMIZING THE PRESERVATION OF TREES ON THAT LINE. PRETTY WORDY, ISN'T IT? YEAH YEAH, BUT I COULD LIVE WITH YAHOO. ALRIGHT THANK YOU, MR UNDERHILL. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY. WE STILL ALSO HAVE TO CONDITION ABOUT THE LANDSCAPING BREAKING UP. THE REST OF THE NORTH. AS WELL. I'M SORRY. THE ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING TO MAKE THE SORRY ON THE WEST SIDE TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT THAT THOSE HOMES WE WILL HAVE BOTH OF THOSE CONDITIONS. YES, OKAY. WE'VE MADE A COMMITMENT TO OUR NEIGHBORS ACROSS THE STREET TO THAT WILL AND THAT ONE AS WELL, RIGHT? SO IT'S REALLY FREAK CONDITIONS. WELL, YEAH, I HAVE SEVERAL WRITTEN DOWN, SO LET ME OKAY. OKAY LET ME TRY TO MAKE IT MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND THE ORDINANCE. UM YEAH. SO AND JUST, UH. MAYBE IT'S ME, BEN. MAYBE YOU CAN HELP ME OUT HERE, BUT WE HAVE SEVERAL ITEMS THAT NEED TO BE INCLUDED. UM I MEAN, I JUST THINK PLANNING COMMISSION WHERE THEY ADOPTED STAFF REPORTS AND ANY SUBMITTED DOCUMENTS INTO THE RECORD, BUT WE HAD THIS STAFF Q AND A MR LEWIS'S BRIEF MR DAVIES POWER POINT PRESENTATION. THE SEVENTH STANDS LETTER WITH THE NEIGHBORS SIGNATURES. YES SO, TO THE EXTENT THAT THEY'RE NOT ALREADY, IN THE RECORD, I WOULD DO SOMETHING TO ACCEPT THEM TO INCLUDE THEM. IN THE RECORD. THAT'S CLEAR SO THAT YOU HAVE EVERYTHING. UH UM. AND THAT ALRIGHT? GOT ONE COVER THAT IN A SEPARATE MOTION, AND THEN, UM, JUST THE CONDITIONS. WE CAN TALK ABOUT THIS, UH TOGETHER BEFORE WE TRY TO PUT TOGETHER EMOTION, BUT THE THINGS THAT WE HEARD THEIR COMMITMENTS THAT WERE MADE WAS THAT THE APPLICANT UM. IS MAKING A COMMITMENT TO MOVE UP TO FOUR UNITS ALONG THAT WESTERN BOUNDARY TO AN AREA OTHERWISE WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT. TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL PRESERVATION OF TREES AND PROTECTIONS. THE WESTERN BOUNDARY. UM SCREENING OF HBC A IN GENERATORS ON THE EAST AND WEST BOUNDARIES. 
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CLARIFICATION THAT THE PRESERVATION ZONE AND THE EAST AND WEST BOUNDARIES IS 30 FT TREE PRESERVATION ZONE. AND PROVIDE ADDITIONAL SCREENING. TWO ADJACENT NEIGHBORS LOTS ON CENTRAL COLLEGE, ACROSS FROM BOTH PROPOSED ENTRANCE AND EXITS TO THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT ON THOSE NEIGHBORS SITES. ANYTHING ELSE THAT THAT COMPANY I THINK THAT'S IT. ALL RIGHT, UM, LET ME JUST START BACK HERE. UTILITIES PEACE WITH STILL BE WORKED OUT, BUT NOT NECESSARILY PART OF THIS CORRECT. WHICH WOULD YOU CALL THIS PIECE THE ACTUAL SEWER AND WATER CONNECTION. THAT'S A SEPARATE AGREEMENT. KATHLEEN APPLICANT, THE CITY JUST FOR CLARITY, AND THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME SORT OF. DEVELOPMENT BE ATTACHED TO PROBABLY EACH PARCEL THAT WOULD HELP COVER THE COSTS FOR THE SEARCH, AND THE CITY IS NOT GOING TO BEAR THAT COST INDEPENDENTLY. WHICH NO SURPRISE TO ANYONE. AND THEN THE PARK FEE. AND LOU I THINK WE HAD THAT ADDRESS THAT $42,000 WAS FROM THE RELEVANT TO THE CITY'S PURCHASE OF LAND AND IN THE BELL BEHIND MURMUR. THAT WE ARE THEN LEASING IN PART TO THE J. P D FOR THE, UM CONSTRUCTION OF THE FIELD HOUSE. OKAY? ALL RIGHT, UM . SURE I GOT THE RIGHT ORDINANCE HERE. I MOVED. I MOVED TO AMEND ORDINANCE 84 2023. TO INCLUDE THE STAFF Q AND A THAT WAS PROVIDED BY MR MAYOR. TO PROVIDE INTO THE RECORD. MR LEWIS IS BRIEF. ALONG WITH THE ATTACHMENTS TO INCLUDE IN THE RECORD, MRS DAVIES POWER POINT PRESENTATION AND TO INCLUDE INTO THE RECORD MS SEVEN STONES LETTER WITH THE NEIGHBORS SIGNATURES ADDITIONALLY MOVED TO AMEND THE ORDINANCE TO INCLUDE A REQUIREMENT THAT ADDITIONAL SCREENING BE PROVIDED TO THE HOMES LONG CENTRAL COLLEGE ON THE PROPERTY OWNER SIDE OF THE OF THE STREET. UM DIRECTLY ACROSS THE PROPOSED ENTRANCE AND EXITS TO THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT. THAT THE APPLICANT HAS MADE A COMMITMENT TO PROVIDE SCREENING OF ALL HBC A AND GENERATORS ON THE EAST AND WEST BOUNDARIES. THAT THE PRESERVATION ZONE ON THE EAST AND WEST BOUNDARY EXPLICITLY INCLUDES A 30 FT. PRESERVATION TREE PRESERVATION ZONE. AND THAT THE APPLICANT COMMITS. DURING THE APPROVAL OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE. TO WORK WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS TO THE WEST TO PERHAPS RELOCATE FOR UP TO FOUR UNITS TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL PRESERVATION. AND, UM. YEAH. JUST TREE PRESERVATION ON THAT WEST BOUNDARY. THAT'S MY MOTION. 
          SECOND. MARY SPOTTING COUNCIL MEMBER BREAST. REMEMBER DEREK? YES YES, YES, YES VOTES TO AMEND ORDINANCE 84 2023 AS STATED BY THE MAYOR. ALL RIGHT, AND THAT TAKES US TO CONSIDERATION OF THE AMENDED ORDINANCE AND I WOULD MOVE FOR THE ADOPTION OF THE AMENDED ORGANS. 0 84 2023. OH, YES. WE ACTUALLY HAVE A HAVE A VOTE PENDING, SO YOU'LL YOU'LL HAVE TO WAIT. I'M SORRY. OKAY ON THE ADAPTING ALREADY FOUR IS AMENDED. MAYOR SPAULDING. YES, ERIC? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER WILL TRAP YES NUMBER SHOW. YES MEMBER BRISK, YES, COASTER DOCTOR ORDINANCE 84 2023 AS AMENDED. 
          ALRIGHT SORRY ABOUT THE ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER THERE, MAN. BUT YES. IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM. PLEASE STEP UP. GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS MY NAME IS BECKY BURGESS. MY LIVE ON 8065 CLASS ROAD. UM WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT THE SAME MAP. OR THE LAST WHAT? HOW MANY MEETINGS? NOTHING'S CHANGED ON THE MAP ITSELF. BUT WE HEAR YOU SING. ALL THESE THINGS ARE GOING TO BE INCLUDED NOW. BEFORE YOU MAKE A DECISION. I'D LIKE. FOR EVERYBODY HERE TO SEE. RENDITION OF THAT MAP THAT SHOWS EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING TO YEP. I YES, YOU YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. AND SO TONIGHT'S, UM CONSIDERATION OF COUNCIL WAS JUST ON THE ZONING, 
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WHETHER OR NOT THIS CAN BE BUILT. THE DEVELOPER STILL HAS A VERY ARDUOUS PROCESS TO GO THROUGH FOR FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN. LOTS OF PUBLIC OUTPUT. LOTS OF PUBLIC INPUT. THROUGHOUT THAT ENTIRE PROCESS, AND THIS MAP WILL CHANGE. MY GUESS. IS THAT WHAT WE SAW TONIGHT AT THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN WON'T BE THE FINAL PRODUCT WE'RE GOING TO SEE. PROBABLY A NUMBER OF CHANGES THROUGHOUT THAT PROCESS. BUT BEFORE THAT GETS VOTED ON FOR FINAL DEVELOPMENT AGAIN. 
          THIS IS THE FINAL PRODUCT. YES WE WILL ABSOLUTELY MAKE SURE THOSE MAPS ARE SHARED. BECAUSE WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO SEE EXACTLY THE COMMUNIST 100% AGREE. THANK YOU. DON'T GO BACK TO PLANNING COMMISSION. YEAH, ITS STAFF. MAYBE YOU CAN JUST UM. SINCE WE HAVE SO MANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC HERE THAT ARE OBVIOUSLY INTERESTED IN THIS ISSUE JUST TO PROCESS MOVING FORWARD. UM AS THIS GOES THROUGH FINAL DEVELOPMENT, YOU KNOW WHAT ARE THE STEPS IN THE PROCESS AS FAR AS PROVIDING NOTICE TO THE PUBLIC WHAT MEETINGS ARE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC FOR PARTICIPATION. UM OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE A HIGH EXPECTATIONS OF BOTH AARON AND JASON ARE AWARE OF A CITY THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A CONTINUAL OUTREACH WITH THE NEIGHBORS THAT ARE HERE TONIGHT TO TRY TO RESOLVE AS MANY ISSUES AS POSSIBLE. THAT'S SEPARATE FROM THE PUBLIC PROCESS. SO LET STAFF JUST SORT OF UPDATE FOLKS AND HOW THINGS PROCEED. SURE SO TONIGHT'S REZONING ZONING TEXT NEWS MAPS THAT YOU WERE LOOKING AT THESE PROVIDE COMMITMENTS FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT, SO THIS PROVIDES THE FRAMEWORK AND REQUIREMENTS HOW THESE REQUIREMENTS ARE ACTUALLY IMPLEMENTED AND CONSTRUCTED IN THE FUTURE. HOW THAT WILL ACTUALLY LOOK LIKE THAT'S THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN STAGE AND SO FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLANS ARE HEARD BY OUR CITY PLANNING COMMISSION. THAT OCCURS AT A PUBLIC MEETING JUST LIKE THIS NEIGHBORS WITHIN 200 FT OF THIS SUBDIVISION WILL BE NOTIFIED OF THAT PUBLIC MEETING AT LEAST 10 DAYS PRIOR TO THAT MEETING. AND SO AT THAT TIME, WE WILL HAVE FULL LANDSCAPING, ADDITIONAL BUILDING ARCHITECTURE, AN ADDITIONAL SITE DESIGN THINGS LIKE GRADING STORMWATER STREET IMPROVEMENTS, SO THE DEVELOPER HAS TO PUT ALL THOSE TOGETHER SUBMITTED. AND THEN WE WILL EVALUATE THOSE TO MAKE SURE THOSE ARE ALL MEETING THE ZONING TEXT COMMITMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN IMPROVED TONIGHT AS PART OF THIS REZONING. BURGESS. I'M NOT GETTING YOU ON THE RECORD. DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK AGAIN? IF SO, I'LL NEED YOU TO STEP UP. IF NOT, WE CAN CONTINUE. THANK YOU, MAN. THANK YOU, MR BURGESS. I WAS JUST SAYING THAT I DIDN'T THINK YOUR ANYTHING ABOUT GARAGES. MHM SO PROBLEM BEFORE, RIGHT. SO, MR UNDERHILL, UM AND AGAIN, THIS IS GOING BACK A COUPLE OF HOURS, MAYBE AN HOUR OR SO. THERE WERE SOME BOXES THAT WERE IN YELLOW. SOME BOXES THAT WERE IN GREEN THAT REPRESENTED HOMES. SOME OF THOSE ARE FRONT LOADED. UM UNITS SUMMER REAR LOADED UNITS, AND IT'S DEPENDENT WHERE THEY WERE ON THAT DIAGRAM, BUT YOU'LL SEE IF YOU DRIVE THROUGH THE CON FACILITY THAT WE HAVE TODAY. THAT'S OPEN. YOU'LL SEE BOTH OF THOSE USES WHETHER IT'S A FRONT LOAD OR RELOAD. ON THE GARAGES. TO BREAK UP THAT HOLE. LINE OF HOMES. WOOD AND THEN THIS, MAYBE, I THINK LIKE COLOR SEX POSSIBLE. INSTEAD OF HAVING THEM ON LINE. I'M NOT SURE. UM WHERE IT CALLED A SACK WOULD GO. I'M SORRY, AND THAT VISUALIZES GROUP OF HOMES. MAYBE NOT JUST ONE BIG. GROUP YEAH, I MEAN, WELL, CERTAINLY CERTAINLY LOOK AT THE ROAD CONSTRUCTION. I THINK THAT YOU KNOW, IT'S UM MY GUESS IS THAT THE ROAD NETWORK IS PRETTY. PRETTY LOCKED IN AT THIS POINT. 
          PRETTY MUCH RIGHT NETWORK PRETTY TIGHT WITH RESPECT TO FIRE TRUCK CIRCUMSTANCES. YEAH WE SHOULD BE CHANNELING OUR INNER DR MARSH. YOU KNOW, HE WAS JUST CONCERNED PROPERLY ABOUT THE FIRE TRUCKS IN COLDER. SAKS PRESENTS A UNIQUE CHALLENGE FOR OUR FIRST RESPONDERS FOR SURE. COULD BE LOOKED AT. YEP. LET ME ALSO, UM JUST IN THE RECORD IN JENNIFER. I'LL DO MY DARNDEST TO TRY TO REMEMBER. REMEMBER THIS IN THE FUTURE, BUT EACH MEMBER THAT FILLED OUT OF SPEAKERS CARD TONIGHT IF WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT THERE ARE NOTIFIED OF THE UPCOMING PUBLIC HEARINGS WHETHER OR NOT THERE WITHIN 200 FT OR NOT. UH UM, SINCE THEY TOOK THE TIME OUT OF THEIR NIGHT TO COME AND SPEAK TO US, AND JUST MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE INFORMED ABOUT THE PUBLIC PROCESS. OKAY, UM. 
          THAT'S THAT'S THE CLOTHES ON ORDINANCE, 84. WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A ABOUT A FIVE MINUTE RECESS BEFORE WE GO ON TO OUR APPROPRIATION AMENDMENT ORDINANCE WITH OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR. YOU'RE WELCOME TO STAY. WE STILL I WANT THAT YOU'N MICROPHONES BACK ON. ALRIGHT 
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APPRECIATE EVERYONE INDULGING US FOR A SHORT BREAK. WE'RE BACK IN THE PUBLIC MEETING. STILL UNDER SECOND READING OF ORDINANCES ORDINANCE 0 85 2023. I BELIEVE STAFF HAS REQUESTED THAT YOU TABLED THAT IS CORRECT WOULD MOVE THAT WE TABLE ORDINANCE 85 2023 UNTIL OUR NEXT MEETING SECOND, OKAY, REALLY QUICK POINTING TOWARDS THE BIRTHDAY, THOUGH. ALRIGHT SO THAT WAS A MAYOR SPOTTING MOTION AND WHO WAS THE SECOND FIELD TRAP? EXPECTING THAT? MM HMM. RIGHT WAS THAT ALL THE OTHER HERE? YOU GUYS? I JUST HEARD MARISSA MAYER'S FAULTING TRAP SHELL. YES YES. RISK. YES VOTES TO TABLE ORDINANCE A 5 22 23 WE TABLE INTO THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING. 
          THE NEXT REGULAR NEEDLE. YEAH. AND MARY, YOU GREAT NEXT REGULAR MEETING THE THINK I SAID THAT, OKAY. YOU GUYS MOVED REALLY QUICK. MY BAD. ALRIGHT INTRODUCTION AND FIRST READING 
          [10. INTRODUCTION AND FIRST READING OF ORDINANCES]
AWARDS IS ORDINANCE SO 86 2023 AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND THE CODE OF ORDINANCES. NO ALBANY, OHIO TO PROVIDE NECESSARY AMENDMENTS TO CITY COAST SECTIONS. 187.0318 . 0.04187 0.7 AND 187.08 REGARDING THE ESTABLISHMENT SPECIAL FUNDS TO ADOPT AN INTERNAL CONTROL POLICY. 
          MANDATORY DRUG FIND FUND REQUIRED BY OHIO ADVICE CODE SECTION 29 25.03 F TWO AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES. THANK YOU, MAYOR . THIS LEGISLATION UPDATES THE CITY CODE SECTIONS RELATED TO THE ESTABLISHMENT OF SPECIAL FUNDS FOR COLLECTION OF CERTAIN COURT COSTS AND FINES TO ALIGN WITH THE REQUIREMENTS SET FORTH IN THE OHIO REVISED CODE. IN ADDITION TO LEGISLATION ADOPTS AN INTERNAL CONTROL POLICY, AS REQUIRED BY THE AMENDED LANGUAGE SPECIFIC TO THE MANDATORY DRUG FIND FUND. THE CITED COACH SECTIONS ESTABLISHED FOR FUNDS WHOSE PURPOSE IS TO COLLECT CERTAIN FEES, FINES AND FORFEITURES AS REQUIRED BY THE O. R C THOSE FUNDS OR THE INDIGENT DRIVER'S ALCOHOL TREATMENT FUND THAT ALCOHOL ENFORCEMENT EDUCATION FUND LAW ENFORCEMENT TRUST FUND AND MANDATORY DRUG FIND FUND. THESE WERE FUNDS HAVE BEEN IN EXISTENCE, THE CODE UPDATES. WHERE IN 1990 92 OR SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THAT, SO THE RCS HAD A COUPLE OF REVISIONS TO THOSE REQUIREMENTS WITHIN THOSE CODES . AND SO WE ARE, UH UTILIZING THIS TIME TO UPDATE THOSE FUNDS THAT RECEIVED THIS SPECIFIC REVENUE RELATED TO THE COURT COSTS, FINES AND FORFEITURES AND SEIZURES OF PROPERTY OR SALE OF SUCH PROPERTY, AND, UM THEIR SPECIFIC SPECIFIC USES FOR WHICH THOSE FUNDS MAY BE UTILIZED. UM THIS WILL ALSO HELP TO CLEARLY IDENTIFY THOSE USES BECAUSE WE HAVE IN THE PAST, UM NOT SPENT THOSE FUNDS BECAUSE THE PURPOSES WE'RE NOT AS CLEAR AS WE WOULD HAVE LIKED THEM TO BE WITHIN THE CODE SECTIONS. SPECIFIC TO THE MANDATORY DRUG FIND FUND. THE LEGISLATION ALSO ADOPTS THE REQUIRED INTERNAL CONTROL POLICY THAT SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSES THE USE OF THOSE DRUGS FINDS PERCEIVED THE REVENUE REVENUE RECEIVED IN THIS FUND SHALL BE ALLOCATED ONLY TWO NEW ALBANY POLICE DEPARTMENT AND SHALL ONLY BE USED TO PAY THE COST OF COMPLEX CASES, COURT COSTS OF TRAINING AND PROVIDING TECHNICAL EXPERTISE. LOCAL SUPPORT FOR FEDERAL MATCHING FUNDS PURCHASE OF SPECIAL EQUIPMENT. AND OR OTHER RELATED PURPOSES. ONCE ADOPTED, THE UPDATED POLICY WILL BE PROVIDED TO BOTH FRANKLIN AND LOOKING COUNTIES WHO COLLECT THESE FEES FOR US IN ORDER TO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE CONTINUED DISTRIBUTION TO NEW ALBANY. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL THEN WE'LL SET THAT ORDINANCE AFTER SECOND READING IN PUBLIC HEARING AT A MEETING ON AUGUST 1ST. RESOLUTION ARE 31 
          [11. RESOLUTIONS AND PUBLIC HEARING]
2023, A RESOLUTION APPROVING AND AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION OF THE COMMUNITY REINVESTMENT AREA AGREEMENT WITH RINK CAM COMPANY ALICE SEE RELATED TO INCENTIVES AVAILABLE FOR PRODUCT DEVELOPMENT AND THE OUTGROWTH, TOO. COMMUNITY REINVESTMENT EVERY DESCRIBE. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. THIS RESOLUTION DOES AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A COMMUNITY REINVESTMENT AREA AGREEMENT WITH INCOME COMPANY. THIS AGREEMENT PROVIDES 100% REAL PROPERTY TAX ABATEMENT FOR 15 YEARS. KIM WAS FOUNDED IN ALBUQUERQUE IN 1976 AND IS A PREEMINENT PROVIDER OF US SPECIALTY CHEMICAL MANAGEMENT, WAREHOUSE AND LOGISTICS SPECIFICALLY IN SPECIFIC TO NEW ALBANY. THEY ARE ONE OF THE FIRST TIER SUPPLIERS FOR INTEL, AND WE'RE HAPPY TO, UM, WELCOME THEM INTO OUR COMMUNITY AS THE FIRST INTEL SUPPLIER TO LOCATE HERE WITH IN NEW ALBANY, UM THE PROJECT INCLUDES THE CONSTRUCTION OF 120,000 SQUARE FOOT FACILITY ON 22 ACRES. THE 
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CONSTRUCTION OF THE FACILITY IS EXPECTED TO COMMENCE IN JANUARY OF 2024 AND BE COMPLETED BY MARCH OF 2025. APPROXIMATELY 43 JOBS WILL BE CREATED WITH AN ANNUAL PAYROLL BEGINNING AT 3.5 MILLION THAT WILL INCREASE TO 10.6 MILLION BY YEAR. THREE ONCE THE PROJECTS UP AND OPERATIONAL, BUT PLEASE NOTE THAT THE BENCHMARKS FOR MEASURING COMPLIANCE WILL BE OUR FORMULA FOR MANUFACTURING AND WAREHOUSE . UM THAT'S STANDARD WITH ALL OF OUR AGREEMENTS. I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE YOU TO THE EVER PATIENT. TRUST TREE BROWN, WHO CAME IN FROM OUT OF TOWN, UM, TO JOIN US. CERTAINLY WE CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE ABOUT THE PROJECT. WE GOT DJ AND OUT OF TOWN, MR BROWN. WELL THANKS FOR SITTING THROUGH A CIVIC ENGAGEMENT PROCESS TONIGHT , BUT, YEAH. ANY ANY COMMENTS YOU WANT TO SHARE WITH US, SIR? UH NO, THANK YOU. THIS HAS BEEN A WONDERFUL MEETING. YOU GUYS HAVE A WONDERFUL COUNSELOR. VERY, VERY PATIENT AND SENSITIVE TO YOUR TO YOUR NEIGHBORS AND YOUR COMMUNITY. UM BRING KIM IS , UH, AS SHE MENTIONED BEEN IN BUSINESS FOR 45 YEARS AND SPECIALIZES IN SAFE CHEMICAL MANAGEMENT. AND WE'RE INTEL'S FIRST SUPPLIER FOR THEIR NEW SUPPLIER PARK HERE. NEW UP NEW ALBANY. SO WELCOME ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? YOU KNOW, I DID A LITTLE RESEARCH ON THE COMPANY AND YOU KNOW YOU HAVE A PRETTY WIDE REACH. UM, SOME NO. SOMETHING WE'RE NOT ACCUSTOMED TO HAVING YOU KNOW HERE, SO WELCOME. 
          WELCOME TO THE COMMUNITY. UM WHAT FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU ? I'M SURE YOU'LL LEARN OVER TIME. YOU KNOW, THIS IS A GREAT PLACE TO DO BUSINESS, BUT CONGRATULATIONS ON BEING THE FIRST INTEL SUPPLIER TO GET TO NEW ALBANY CERTAIN YOU KNOW, WELCOME. SOMEONE HAD TO BE NUMBER ONE. CONGRATULATIONS. GREAT THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YOU HAVE YEAR. 
          ALRIGHT ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS REGARDING THE RESOLUTION? THEN OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING WITH ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC LIKE TO SPEAK REGARDING RESOLUTION ARE 31. NO PUBLIC COMMENT. I WILL CLOSE. THE PUBLIC HEARING IS VERY EMOTION ON THE RESOLUTION MOVING OPTION RESOLUTION ARE 31 2023 2ND. COUNCIL MEMBER SHELL. YES YES, YES, YES, YES. YES, FOLKS FOR THAT RESOLUTION ARE 31 2023. ALRIGHT THANK YOU, MR BROWN. I'M SURE MISS CHRYSLER WILL GREET YOU IN THE VEGETABLE OUT THERE AND LET YOU KNOW ALL THE GREAT THINGS THAT YOU CAN DO IT AFTER 10 O'CLOCK IN NEW ALBANY. THINK I THINK BREW DOGS OPEN FOR 15 MORE MINUTES? YEAH QUESTION, SIR. LIKE. RESOLUTION ARE 30 TO 2023 A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TURNING INTO A LIMITED NOTICE TO PROCEED. AGREEMENT WITH MR CONSTRUCTION FOR PHASE TWO IS A TAILOR PARKS PROJECT. THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL TO START WITH. I HAVE A COUPLE STARS SLIDE, JEN, IF YOU DON'T MIND ADVANCING FOR ME. SO THIS IS PHASE ONE. AND TAYLOR, UH, PARK. THIS IS THE PLAYGROUND THAT IS ALMOST COMPLETELY COMPLETE, EXCEPT FOR A RAILING THAT NEEDS TO GO UP. SO WE ARE ALMOST DONE WITH PHASE ONE. LIKE I SAID PLAYGROUND IS ALMOST DONE. PAVING IS SCHEDULED TO START TOMORROW AND THE TENTATIVE DEADLINE FOR THAT TO BE COMPLETED RIGHT NOW IS THE END OF NEXT WEEK. SO WE ARE MARCHING TOWARDS AN EARLY, MARGARET SORRY MARCH EARLY AUGUST, OPENING FOR PHASE ONE OF THE PROJECT. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. SO IN ANTICIPATION OF WRAPPING UP PHASE ONE. WE REALLY WANT TO GET GOING ON PHASE TWO, AND THIS IS MAINLY RELATED TO THE TIMING OF THE COMMUNITY GARDEN SEASON. 
          UM, AND SO THE SECOND PHASE OF TAYLOR FARM PARK INCLUDES COMMUNITY GARDENS, A STORAGE BUILDING CAN INCLUDE POTENTIAL BOARDWALKS COUNCIL CHOOSES TO FUND THOSE AS ALTERNATES, BUT THE MAJORITY OF THE WORK IS HAPPENING ON THE HOMESTEAD PORTION OF THE PROPERTY, AND THAT'S RELATED TO THE SANITARY, SANITARY, SEWER AND WATER EXTENSIONS THAT ARE NEEDED FOR A RESTROOM FACILITY. SO WE HAVE A LOT OF THIS EARTH WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE AND THE UNDERGROUND WORK TO EXTEND A SEWER ALONG DUBLIN, GRANVILLE. WE HAVE TO BORE UNDER ROCKY FORK TO CONNECT INTO EXISTING MAN HOLDING COLUMBUS IS WHERE THAT BULK OF THAT WORK NEEDS TO BE DONE. AND THEN WE NEED TO DO THAT NOW SO WE CAN BUILD THE COMMUNITY GARDENS ON TOP OF THAT , ONCE ALL THE UNDERGROUND WORK IS COMPLETED. SO THIS PROJECT, PHASE TWO HAS BEEN BID IN THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK FOR THE CMR IS IN THE PROCESS OF PREPARING A GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE AMENDMENT THAT WILL COME BEFORE COUNCIL RIGHT NOW WE EXPECT THAT TO BE ON YOUR AUGUST 15TH AGENDA, HOWEVER, TO CMR WOULD LIKE TO MOBILIZE ITS ON THE SITE WITHIN THE NEXT SEVERAL WEEKS IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO BE IN A POSITION TO COMPLETE THE PROJECT IN TIME FOR THE 2024 COMMUNITY GARDEN SEASON. IT'S ACHIEVABLE, BUT IT'S NOT A SLAM DUNK, SO WE REALLY NEED TO GET 
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MOVING ON IT FAST. THIS LIMITED NOTICE TO PROCEED TO ALLOW THE CMR TO BEGIN DEMO CONSTRUCTION, LAY DOWN AREA PREPARATION AND OTHER SITE MOBILIZATION ITEMS PRIOR TO THE ACTUAL EXECUTION OF THE GMP. THIS DOES NOT LIMIT COUNCIL'S ABILITY TO DETERMINE WHICH ALTERNATES ARE ULTIMATELY SELECTED OR THE FINAL COST OF THE PROJECT. IN THE GMP. LIKE I SAID, WE'LL STILL COME TO COUNCIL FOR FINAL APPROVAL, AND THIS DOES NOT REPRESENT ANY ADDITIONAL COST OF THE PROJECT. 
          IT WAS SIMPLY ADVANCED A PORTION OF THE WORK TO ALLOW A CMR TO KEEP THE PROJECT ON SCHEDULE. 
          ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS ON THE RESOLUTION? OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC LIKE SPEAK REGARDING RESOLUTION ARE 32. PUBLIC COMMENT WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I WOULD MOVE FOR THE ADOPTION OF RESOLUTION. ARCH ONE ARE 30 TO 2023. SECOND. SPOTTING COUNCIL MEMBER WORLD TRAP. YES MICHELLE YES. YES YES, YES, VOTES TO THAT RESOLUTION 32 OR 30 TO 2023. 
          ANYONE CARE TO MAKE A STANDING COMMITTEE REPORT? I WOULD NOT CARE TO REPORTS OF 
          [13. REPORTS OF REPRESENTATIVES]
REPRESENTATIVES. JOHNNY UPDATE FROM OR PC? NO MEETING ANY UPDATE FROM THE JOINT PARTS UH, NO. NO REPORT AT THIS TIME. AND THE UPDATE FROM THE TOWNSHIP. THE ONLY THING THAT THERE WAS A GENERAL MEETING ON A ZONING CONSIDERATION FOR A STORAGE FACILITY AT 62 02, LIKE ITS WESTERN SCHLEPPING. AND IT WAS POSTPONED UNTIL AUGUST. 2ND RAPPERS STONE CONTINUED, AND THEY WILL HOLD AT THAT TIME. THE DEVELOPER MADE MAJOR CHANGES IN TERMS OF LOWERING THE ELEVATION ADDED SCREENING. PUTTING IN MORE FENCING, LOW LIGHTING THAT IS ACTION MOTIVATED MOTION ACTIVATED. AND DID A LOT OF WHAT WAS REALLY DISCUSSED IN PLANNING . BUT THE THREE MEMBERS OF THE TOWNSHIP WANTED TO TAKE LONGER TO CONSIDER IT WILL CONTINUE AND VOTE ON THE SECOND. OKAY JUST A QUICK QUESTION. AND I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS. IS THERE A I KNOW THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY A GAS STATION OR IS THERE UNDERGROUND? THERE. THERE IS AN ISSUE BECAUSE IT WAS A FEW. YEAH. DEPOT OF SOME SORT. AND THEY WOULD WITH WHAT THEY'RE DOING WITH STORAGE . THEY CAN RECLAIM IT, BUT NOT TO THE SAME DEGREE AS IF IT WERE RESIDENTIAL SO THEY ARE ABLE TO BUILD ON THAT BUILDING. IT'S NOT RESIDENTIAL RESIDENTIAL, THEY WOULD HAVE TO RECONSTITUTE ALL THE LAND AND GO THROUGH A MAJOR WORK, BUT THEY'VE DONE THE PRELIMINARIES AND THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO TO THE SAME EXTENT SO THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO DO IT ON YOU. OKAY IT DOESN'T. IT DOES NOT PREVENT THAT FROM BEING 
          [14. REPORTS OF CITY OFFICIALS]
THERE. OKAY? ALL RIGHT, UM REPORT OF CITY OFFICIALS AGAIN. I APPRECIATE EVERYONE JUMPING IN TO TAKE CARE OF THE LAST MEETING. I WOULD HAVE COMMENTED THAT TIME. YOU KNOW WHAT A GREAT FOURTH OF JULY CELEBRATION WE HAD. I WAS JUST A FANTASTIC DAY THE FESTIVAL WAS PACKED. I DON'T THINK I'VE SEEN ONE THAT FOLD BEFORE. UM THE PARADE ROUTE, LITERALLY FROM START TO FINISH WHO THOUGHT WE WOULD RUN OUT OF CANDY? I MEAN, I'M JUST MIND BLOWING IT. I KNOW. I MEAN, JENNIFER, HOW TO GET HERE? NO I MEAN, IT'S CAN'T BELIEVE IT. I MEAN, IT WAS UNBELIEVABLE. BUT WHAT A WHAT A GREAT DAY. UM, I WAS SO OVERCOME WITH JOY THAT THAT LITERALLY LIKE CUT THE FLU THE NEXT MORNING CANDY DOWN FOR THE COUNT. UH BUT AGAIN, THANKS TO EVERYONE FOR THE EFFORT, POLICE DEPARTMENT, THE SERVICE DEPARTMENT. JOSH AND HIS TEAM. IT FELT LIKE SAM WAS HAD BREAKFAST WITH SAM AND COCKTAIL OSAMA AT THE END OF THE NIGHT WERE HAD THE WHOLE DAY TOGETHER. 
          IT WAS GREAT. CARING ABOUT THE COCKTAILS JOKE. UM BUT, YEAH, AGAIN JUST A GREAT DAY. NOT A BETTER DAY FOR YOU KNOW, SMALL TOWN AMERICA THAN THE FOURTH OF JULY. CLERK ANY UPDATE FROM THE CLERK JUST WANT TO CHECK IN WITH YOU WILL BE DOING THE MOTION REGARDING THE REAPPOINTMENTS A LITTLE BIT LATER ON THE AGENDA, BUT THE THERE IS A ROCKY FORK BLACK LIQUOR ACCORD VACANCY. 
          WANNA MAKE SURE COUNCILS OKAY WITH ME GOING FORWARD WITH OUR USUAL PROCESS ABOUT 30 DAYS OPEN, GETTING THE APPLICATIONS DOING EXECUTIVE SESSION SO FORTH, OKAY, I WILL GET GOING ON THAT. ALSO WATCH YOUR EMAILS WERE SETTING UP THE CAPITAL PROJECTS WORKSHOP. HOPEFULLY IN EARLY SEPTEMBER, PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY TRAVEL PLANS, AND, UM, UM, I'LL BE GETTING SOME DATES OUT FROM STAFF TO YOU. WATCH YOUR VOICEMAILS. EMAILS, PLEASE. AND 
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THAT'S IT. ALRIGHT FINANCE DIRECTOR ANY UPDATE REPORT. CITY MANAGER REPORT. CITY ATTORNEY 
          [16. POLL FOR COUNCIL COMMENT]
REPORT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT WE HAVE NO PUBLIC COMFORT COUNCIL COMMENT AND THE ADDITIONAL COUNSEL. COMMENT YES, I JUST HAVE ONE THING TO DISAGREE WITH YOU ON YOUR MAYOR'S REPORT. I KNOW YOU SAID THE BEST DAY IN A SMALL TOWN IS THE FOURTH OF JULY . I KIND OF DISAGREE LAST TUESDAY, BETTER DAY TO CELEBRATE , AND THIS YOUNG TOWN OF OURS CALLED THE GRAND OPENING OF THE PICKLE BALL COURTS AND I THINK YOU'LL NOTICE ON THAT BOTTOM RIGHT PICTURE YOU'VE GOT. FOUR COUNCIL MEMBERS. THEY'RE PLAYING EXTREMELY HARD WITH CASEY AND MARLENE, LOOK AT ME. I'M JUST WAITING FOR THAT BALL. LOOK AT BANCO JOE, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO INCREASE OUR HEALTH FIRST. NO WE DID HAVE A GRAND OPENING. IT WAS EXTREMELY WELL ATTENDED. THE FEEDBACK HAS JUST BEEN AMAZING KUDOS TO EVERYBODY ON STAFF THAT WAS INVOLVED WITH THAT COURT. ABBY DID A GREAT JOB GETTING THE DJ OUT THERE THE FOOD TRUCKS AND FACTS. IT WAS SUCH A THE FEEDBACK I RECEIVED AS THEY LIKE TO HAVE FOOD TRUCKS OUT THERE LIKE ONCE A WEEK. JUST PICK A DAY. I MEAN, THERE WAS SUCH A YOU KNOW SUCH A GREAT COMMUNITY PICKLE BOX COMMUNITY IS THAT THEY JUST LIKE TO SOCIALIZE, AND THAT'S A BIG PART OF IT. UM JOSH SAM, PHENOMENAL JOB PROMOTING IT . AND JUST GETTING THE WORD OUT . UM YOU MUST HAVE DONE REALLY, REALLY WELL WITH CHANNEL 10 AND EVERYBODY BECAUSE THEY WERE OUT THERE INTERVIEWING AND HAD SOME GREAT SOUND BITES TO DISPATCH HAD SOME GREAT INFORMATION ON IT. SO UM, JUST A GREAT DAY. GREAT PICTURE WITH THE CONFETTI AND EVERYTHING THERE. I DON'T KNOW HOW HE CAUGHT ALL THAT. BUT THAT WAS AMAZING. SORRY. FOR THE FOLKS THAT COULDN'T BE. THERE WAS NO. HE HAD OTHER COMMITMENTS . BUT IT WAS A IT WAS A PRETTY NEAT DAY. SO UM AND WE'RE ALREADY GOING TO BE MEETING ON FRIDAY TO MAYBE TALK ABOUT POTENTIAL TOURNAMENTS THIS YEAR, EVEN ALREADY GOT A SPOT TO SPONSORS THAT HAVE VOLUNTEERED AND WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF WE COULD DO SOMETHING HERE IN THE FALL, SO WHO KNOWS WE MIGHT WE MIGHT GO DOWN THAT PATH. DRINK. 
          WELL, CONGRATS. I MEAN, IT'S UH IT'S ONE THING TO SEE AND THEN A RENDERING, BUT YOU KNOW, ACTUALLY CONSTRUCTED. I MEAN, IT TURNED OUT REALLY, REALLY NICE THAT ARIEL DO GREAT JOB, MATT. 
          THAT AERIAL VIEW THAT YOU DID WITH THE DRONE IS AMAZING. I MEAN, THAT, REALLY? THAT'S WHERE I NOTICED THAT I'M LIKE, WOW, THAT'S PRETTY COOL. ALL RIGHT. WE DO NOT HAVE AN EXECUTIVE 
          [18. OTHER BUSINESS]
SESSION, BUT UNDER OTHER BUSINESS, UM WE DO HAVE SOME APPOINTMENTS. I WOULD JUST MOVE TO REAPPOINT THE BOARD MEMBERS IN THE CLERK OF COUNCILS MEMO DATED JULY 18TH FOR THE TERMS SPECIFIED. SECOND. SPALDING? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER DEREK. COUNCIL MEMBERS. YES REMEMBER BREAST? YES YES, YES, YES VOTES TO MAKE THOSE THREE APPOINTMENTS FOR MY MEMO FOR THE TERM SPECIFIED. IS THERE ANY OTHER BUSINESS FOR CONSIDERATION FOR THAT? WE TURN THE SECOND ONE AND TWO. WE ARE ADJOURNING
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