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HELLO OH, OKAY. I THINK I THINK WE CAN GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED. WE HAVE A QUARRY. I'M STILL THERE IT IS. NOW IT'S ON NOW YOU CAN HEAR ME. ALL THE WAY ACROSS TO THE BACK END OF THE BUILDING SO GOOD, ALL RIGHT, SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CALL THE MEETING THAT WATER AND I DON'T HAVE MY CHEAT
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SHEET WITH ME TODAY, SO I THINK THE FIRST THING WE DO IS TAKE ATTENDANCE. CORRECT, OKAY? MR BONEY. HERE. MR BRUBAKER HERE. MR CHAPPELLE EAR HERE, MR GUPTA HERE. MISTER HARPER. MR HERSKOWITZ HERE, MR PAUL. MR SELLERS. MR SMITHERS HERE. WE HAVE SIX MEMBERS PRESENT. WE HAVE A QUORUM. OKAY FANTASTIC. WE'LL GET WE'LL GET STARTED. THEN. UH SO I THINK THE NEXT[III. Record of Proceedings]
ORDER OF BUSINESS WILL BE TO REVIEW THE MINUTES AND SEE IF WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL, PROVIDED EVERYONE HAS HAD A CHANCE TO READ THOSE IN ADVANCE. SO I WILL ACCEPT THE MOTION.QUESTION TO ACCEPT. 2ND 2ND. OKAY, WE'LL TAKE ANOTHER ROLL CALL. MR CHAPPELLE EAR? YES BONY . YES MR BRUBAKER? YES? MR GUPTA ABSTAINED. MR HERSKOWITZ? YES. MR SMITHERS? YES. I HAVE FIVE VOTES IN FAVOR OF THE MINUTES. OKAY FANTASTIC. AND DO WE HAVE ANY OLD BUSINESS? I DON'T THINK WE DO. OKAY? SO WE'LL GO AHEAD THEN AND MOVE RIGHT INTO NEW BUSINESS. AND THIS IS A
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CONCEPTUAL REVIEW. AND THIS IS 51. 21 TO 51 25 WARNER ROAD THAT PROJECT SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND LET THE STAFF LEADER SOFT ON THAT. AS YOU JUST SAID, THIS IS A CONCEPTUAL REVIEW FROM PREFER LIVING COMING FROM COLUMBUS AS AN APPLICATION. THIS SITE IS SOUTH OF WARREN WARNER ROAD, BUT IT'S BETWEEN ORY AND HAMILTON'S ROAD. THE SITE IS CURRENTLY BEING AN EX AND TO COLUMBUS. IS GOING TO BE AN EXCESS RULE CONSISTS OF TWO PARCELS AND TOTALS ABOUT 3.5 ACRES. THE CORD DESIGNATES THIS LOCATION AS WEST VILLAGE NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH RECOMMENDS THE LAND USED TO BE COMMERCIAL. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A PROPOSED USE OF A R ONE APARTMENT RESIDENTIAL AGED 35 FOR 82 UNIT DEVELOPMENT. WITH A DENSITY CLOSE TO 23 AND A QUARTER DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.BOTH THE YOUTH AND DENSITY DO NOT ALIGN WITH THE COURT GUIDELINES. HOWEVER THE DEVELOPMENT DOES FIT WITH THE PATTERN OBSERVED NEAR THE INTERSECTION OF HAMBLETON AND WARNER AS FAR AS USED AND DENSITY WHEN LOOKING AT THE PROPERTIES IMMEDIATELY CLOSE TO THE NORTH, WEST AND EAST. THE AFRICAN IS ALSO REQUESTED A REDUCTION IN THE PERIMETER YARD AND BUILDING LINE IN AN INCREASE IN GARAGE HEIGHT. THE PROJECT SCORED A 87.5% OF THE CHECKLIST AND PLANNING FINDS BOTH THE PROPOSED USED BASED ON THIS LOCATION, AS WELL AS THE PROPOSED SITE DESIGNED TO BE APPROPRIATE. HOWEVER STAFF DOES RECOMMEND THE APPLICANT EXPLORE OPPORTUNITIES TO INCREASE THE CONNECTIVITY WITHIN THE SITE AS WELL AS AT ADDITIONAL GREEN SPACE. STAFF HAS REQUESTED IN GREATER DETAIL IN THE SITE PLAN TO REFLECT LOT COVERAGE, LIGHTING AND BUILDING MATERIALS AGAIN. THIS IS A CONCEPTUAL REVIEWS, SO NO RECOMMENDATIONS ARE MADE AT THIS TIME. OKAY THANK YOU. AND I DIDN'T SWEAR YOU GUYS IN SO BUT LET'S LET'S DO THAT. I KNOW WE SEE ALL THE TIME. YOU'VE BEEN HONEST WITH US, BUT WE GOT TO DO THIS. SO DO YOU SWEAR THE SWEAR JAR? TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH, SO HELP YOU GOD.
FANTASTIC OKAY, SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND LET AARON KICKS OFF. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. EVERYBODY PINCH HITTING FOR DAVID HODGE BY PARTNER. HE'S ON VACATION. LUCKY DOG HERE WITH JARED SMITH. UM ONE OF THE PASS OUT REAL QUICKLY. JUST A QUICK EXHIBIT. A LOT OF TIME ON THAT. YEAH WOULD YOU MIND PUTTING IT ON A POWER POINT? HMM YOU KNOW YOU'RE PRINTED THIS OFF UPSIDE DOWN. SO . POSSIBLY EXCUSE ME. I'M SORRY . COULD WE GET A COPY OF THAT AS WELL? THANK YOU. ESTIMATED THAT . YES SO THIS IS A STUDY OF THE DENSITIES IN THE AREA WERE CONSISTENT WITH WHAT'S WHAT'S
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GOING ON AROUND US. AND IN FACT, OLD. THE NUMBER OF SQUARES ON HERE ARE YOUR PROJECTS. IS THAT RIGHT? EXCEPT FOR THESE DOWN HERE, 11 THROUGH SIX. AND SO WE'VE REALLY PREFERRED LIVING HAS REALLY HAD SOME SUCCESS IN THIS AREA. I THINK PROBABLY COULDN'T BE A SITE THAT'S MORE APPROPRIATE FOR THIS SORT OF USE . YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT HQ FLATS, WHICH IS SHOWN THERE ON THE BOTTOM, RIGHT? UM WE'VE GOT ALL SORTS OF RESIDENTIAL AROUND HERE. WE'RE RIGHT NEAR A SHOPPING CENTER. BUT THIS IS CANADA, FILLING IN ONE OF THE LAST REMAINING UNDEVELOPED PIECES HERE IN THE AREA, SO THANK YOU VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE QUALITY OF THE PRODUCT AND WHAT THESE GUYS DO. WE DO HAVE A FEW VARIANCES THAT ARE RELATIVELY MINOR IN NATURE THAT ARE ACCOMPANYING THIS SO YOU KNOW THAT WOULD IF WE WOULD GET TO. I DON'T THINK WE GET THAT POINT HERE. WE HAVE NO BEFORE WE'VE HAD ONE HEARING HERE AND CONCEPTUAL, BUT IF WE WERE TO VOTE WE'D WANT, UM, YOU KNOW, RECOMMENDATION ON THE ZONING AND ALSO THE VARIANCE OF SEPARATELY SO WITH THAT? I THINK, JARED NOW BE HAPPY TO JUST TAKE QUESTIONS. YESTERDAY OFF, UM JUST MORE OF A QUESTION FOR ORDER AND WE CAN DECIDE AS WE GO THROUGH OUR DIALOGUE, BUT, UM, YOU DID MENTION AT THE END ABOUT YOU KNOW THIS JUST CONCEPTUAL, BUT IF WE WERE TO GET DEEPER IN OUR CONVERSATION IS ALREADY THOUGHT OF JUST TAKING CARE OF THIS MONTH. THAT'S RIGHT. AND OKAY, IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, SO WE'VE BEEN THROUGH THIS DRILL SO MANY TIMES BEFORE THAT, IF WE'RE ABLE TO DO THAT, AND MAYBE I MEAN MAYBE BACK HERE NEXT MONTH. I DON'T KNOW, BUT MAYBE WE COULD SKIP A MEETING. BUT I DON'T BELIEVE YOU. OKAY OKAY. FANTASTIC SO WHAT? WE'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS. ERIN YOU JUST MENTIONED IN YOUR BRIEF PRESENTATION THAT YOU SAID YOU WOULDN'T HANDLE THE VARIANCE OF SEPARATE FROM THE ZONING. IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID? I THINK JUST PROCEDURALLY THAT THOSE SHOULD BE VOTED ON SEPARATELY BECAUSE THERE WOW. IT'S VERY COMMON PLACE FOR THIS PROCEDURE TO BE USED IN COLUMBUS. UM, BASICALLY, WHEN THE FILE ZONING YOU CAN HAVE COUNCIL GRANT THE VARIANCES ALONG WITH IT IF YOU'RE USING A STRAIGHT ZONING DISTRICT, WHICH WE ARE HERE, SO THIS IS NOT UNUSUAL AT ALL. BUT I THINK THE PROPER THING TO DO WOULD BE TO HAVE A SEPARATE VOTE. SO THE, UM THE PANEL DOES NOT HAVE TO VOTE ON THE ACTUAL VARIANCES. JUST THE REALLY HMM. OKAY THERE WE GO. YEAH. SO IF WE HAD ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS WITH THE PERIMETER SET BACK THAT WOULD BE IN A DIFFERENT BOARD. RIGHT? IS THAT OKAY? I WANT SOMETHING. THIS IS WHY I DON'T DO MUCH IN COLUMBUS. OKAY? ALRIGHT THIS IS THIS IS MY SEVENTH ZONING HERE. YOU KNOW THE WEEK AND I'VE GOT ONE IN DUBLIN AT 6 30, SO I'M GETTING TIRED. SO HURRY UP. THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED. I DON'T KNOW. WE HAVE A LOT OF CONVERSATION TODAY, SO I DON'T KNOW. SO OKAY, WELL, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND SEND THIS NAME. THANK YOU. OKAY I DO HAVE A QUESTION IF THAT'S OKAY, YOU'RE SHOWING THE BOXES HERE. 12345 AND SIX AND THREE OF THEM ARE BEING SHOWN HERE IS NOT DEVELOPED YET. OR ALL THREE OF THOSE YOUR PROPERTIES? YEAH. LOOK AT THAT MEMBERS OF WHICH THERE UM. NUMBER ONE WILL OPEN NEXT WEEK OR WITHIN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS. CHERRY COULD YOU COME TO THE MONEY? SORRY. NUMBER ONE WILL OPEN IN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS. NUMBER FOUR. I WAS HERE TO SEE YOU GUYS ABOUT TWO MONTHS AGO, RIGHT? OKAY. AND NUMBER SIX IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY. JUST DECLARE THAT WAS THE CASE THAT WE'D ALREADY SEEN THE OTHER TWO EARLIER, BUT BECAUSE IT WAS SHOWING HERE IS UNDEVELOPED. I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I WAS THINKING CORRECTLY, AND I GOT IT, OKAY. THANK YOU. YEAH, JUST QUESTION. UM GIVEN THERE IS A LOT OF UH HUH. COMPARABLES. I GUESS YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE AREA. WHAT? IF ANY, ARE THERE ANY DIFFERENCES WOULD YOU SAY IN TERMS OF THE I'M NOT. I MEAN, THE DENSITY SEEMS SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT, BUT I THINK THE LIKE IN TERMS OF THE FINISHES OR THE LIGHTING OR PARKING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. SURE, SO OVER THE SPAN. UH WE'VE ACTUALLY DEVELOPED FOUR DIFFERENT BUILDING TYPES. THIS BUILDING TYPE THAT WE'RE GOING WITH ON THIS PROJECT IS SIMILAR TO THE ONE YOU GUYS JUST SAW. ABOUT A MONTH AND A HALF AGO. THE REASON WE MADE THESE TWO SIMILAR BECAUSE THEY'RE BOTH SMALLER SITES TWO MONTHS AGO WAS 140 UNITS. THIS IS 82. THE OTHER TWO ACROSS THE STREET WERE 181 168, RESPECTIVELY. THOSE TWO LARGER DEVELOPMENTS HAD CLUBHOUSES THAT WERE INDEPENDENT ALONG WITH FITNESS IN THEM. UM ON NUMBER[00:10:03]
FOUR THAT WE'VE JUST FINISHED IN NUMBER SIX. THEY DO STILL HAVE A POOL AND FITNESS, BUT WE INTEGRATED CLUBHOUSE INTO THE BUILDINGS THEMSELVES. SO IN THAT CIRCUMSTANCE ON THIS PROBLEM, FOR EXAMPLE, RIGHT NEXT TO THE POOL. NORMALLY WE WOULD HAVE TWO UNITS ON THE FIRST FLOOR THERE.WE KNOCK THE WALL OUT IN BETWEEN THOSE TWO UNITS. AND HALF OF IT. THE FRONT OF THE KIND OF THE FIRST UNIT BECOMES THE CLUBHOUSE AND THE UNIT BEHIND IT BECOMES YOUR FITNESS. SO FOR US, IT'S A WAY YET FULL AMENITIES ONTO A PROJECT THE SMALLER PROJECTS BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES WHEN YOU GET UNDER 120 130 UNITS. PEOPLE ARE KIND OF NOT HAVING A CLUBHOUSE, BUT TO LOSE TWO UNITS FOR US TO GET THOSE AMENITIES TO OUR RESIDENTS FEELS REALLY GOOD FOR THEM. SO. HAVE A QUESTION? UM, SO THE TWO BARRIERS TO THE VARIANCES YOU'RE ASKING FOR ONE IS THE GARAGE HEIGHT? YES, AND THE OTHER IS THE SETBACK. UH WHAT, AND AGAIN GIVEN THE FACT THAT THESE ARE ONGOING PROJECTS THERE ARE YOU DOING THAT BECAUSE OF SOME ISSUES YOU RUN INTO, AND THE PREVIOUS SITES GARAGE HEIGHT THING IS IN THE CITY OF COLUMBUS. NORMAL BUILDING HEIGHTS. THEY DO A 35 FT MEDIAN OR 60 FT. MEDIUM HEIGHT AND THE ACTUAL HEIGHT IS THE MEDIAN HEIGHT OF THE ROOF. SO EVEN THOUGH YOU MIGHT HAVE A 35 FT HEIGHT DISTRICT YOU'RE BUILDING TO THE PEAK OF THE ROOF MIGHT BE 42 OR 43 FT. TALL. UM AND SO THAT ALLEVIATES YOUR CONCERNS THERE, HOWEVER, GARAGE BUILDINGS HAVE A DIFFERENT HEARING WHERE THERE ARE 15 FT TO THE ABSOLUTE HEIGHT OF THE ROOF. AND TO GET SOME GOOD DETAIL. ON THE ROOF OF THE GARAGE IS TO NOT MAKE THEM EITHER FLAT ALL THE WAY ACROSS OR JUST FLAT. GABLE. YOU NEED TO GO TO ABOUT 17 OR 18. FT. SO WE'RE TRYING TO GET A LITTLE BETTER DETAIL TO THOSE GARAGE BUILDINGS THEMSELVES ON THE ROOF LINES. IS IT AN ISSUE FOR US? COULD WE GO BACK TO THOSE GARAGES THAT ARE 14.8 FT? ABSOLUTELY. WE JUST THINK THOSE ROOF LINES THAT HAVE A LITTLE MORE PITCH TO THEM. AND A LITTLE MORE DIMENSION LOOK A LITTLE BIT BETTER. UM AND THEN THERE ON THE . THERE'S REALLY JUST ONE SPOT WHERE WE'RE AND I'M 11 SECTION WHERE WE PUSHED THE GARAGE A LITTLE BIT BACK. DOWN IN THAT KIND OF BOTTOM LEFT CORNER. UM, WE TOOK THAT YOU HEAR RIGHT THERE. I BELIEVE THAT'S THE ONLY SPOT WHERE WE HAVE A 15 FT INSTEAD OF THE STANDARD 25. UM I DID THAT FOR THE REASON OF TRYING TO HAVE SPOTS AN EXTRA EIGHT PARKING SPOTS. IN THE MIDDLE RIGHT THERE THAT PEOPLE COULD LOOP AROUND AND PARK INTO UM WE CAN STILL DO THE DEVELOPMENT WITHOUT OBVIOUSLY THOSE SIX OR EIGHT PARKING SPOTS , BUT FOR US, GIVEN THAT IT WAS FROM 25 TO 15 AND GOING IMMEDIATELY WEST THERE IS A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT SETBACK FOR A TREE PRESERVATION AREA THAT WAS DONE ON HUDSON SQUARE. AND GIVEN THAT IT WAS NEXT TO A IS THIS THE TREE? THAT'S THAT SETBACK AREA? YES GIVEN THE SETBACK ON THE OTHER PROPERTY AND THE FACT THAT IT'S A THREE STORY APARTMENT BUILDING, LOOKING AT A WHETHER ONE STORY GARAGE IS 15 FT, OFF OF PROPERTY LINER 25 WHEN THEY ALREADY HAVE A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT SETBACK OFF THEIR OWN PROPERTY LINE. WE DIDN'T FEEL THAT TO BE EGREGIOUS. SO THANKS. OKAY THINK THAT STAFF'S COMMENT ON ACCESS, I THINK OR WHATEVER SUGGESTION, UM, CONNECTIVITY, ELABORATE ON CONNECTIVITY A LITTLE BIT HERE. LET'S LOOK WOULD BE STANDARD OR WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE HER? IS THERE A DIFFERENCE? WITH NEIGHBORING? SURE SO, UM, IF YOU WERE LOOKING AT THIS WALKWAY MAYBE CONNECTING. OUT TO THIS STREET. OKAY POSSIBLE CONNECTIONS. TO THE POOL FROM HERE. OKAY? SO YOU'RE JUST TALKING PEDESTRIANS. YES NOT ANOTHER ROAD TO LIKE. MORE THAN ONE WAY OUT. CORRECT. AND LIKE JUST TO CONFIRM THERE'S NO LIKE LIKE ACCESS TO ANY LIKE NATURE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, THAT WE WERE MISSING, LIKE A SIDEWALK OR ANYTHING LIKE ANYTHING THAT WOULD CONNECTIVITY TO LIKE ANY. NO OTHER FEATURES OF THE COMMUNITY OR ANYTHING, OKAY? OKAY SURE. I DON'T SEE A THE DETENTION OF RETENTION POND IS THERE ONE REQUIRED OR MIGHT JUST NOT SEEING IT. THERE'S A BASIN UPFRONT THERE, BUT IT'S CONSIDERED. I DIDN'T WANT TO. IT'S A WHAT'S CONSIDERED A DRY BASIN, WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH
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WHAT'S ALONG MOST OF WARNER ROAD THERE. IF YOU SEE IT'S SHADED UP ALONG WARNER ROAD SLIGHTLY DIFFERENTLY. IN THE RESOLUTION IS, I THINK IT'S THAT DOES THEY DRIVE ATTENTION? PROPOSED.PROPOSED RIGHT AWAY AND THERE IS A DRY DETENTION BASIN. THAT'S IT. THAT'S GOOD, BECAUSE DETENTION NEXT TO ROSE. IS IT A GOOD IDEA? WELL WET DETENTION IS VERY DIFFICULT TO DO ANYMORE WITH THE SHELVES THAT THEY WANT IN THE DISTANCES AND THE DROP BACKS AND HELP BIG AND WIDE, THEY END UP MAKING THEM ANYMORE. SO MOST OF THOSE TIMES THOSE STAY WET FOR A COUPLE HOURS, AND THEN THEY FILTER DOWN AND OUT. UM. IN REGARDS TO KIND OF ADDITIONAL CONNECTIVITY THAT YOU MENTIONED THE FACT COULD ADDRESS THAT, I GUESS REAL QUICK WHILE WE'RE ON AH! WE DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM. OBVIOUSLY STICKING SOME EXTRA STRIPING OR SOME SIDEWALKS THROUGH THOSE, UH TREE LAWN AREAS. THOSE ARE EASY CONNECTION POINTS TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S A DIRECT LINE SITE, MAYBE FROM BUILDING TO THE POOL AREA IN REGARDS TO CONNECTIVITY TO NODDING HAMSHER LANE. UM THAT'S ACTUALLY PART OF A CONDO DEVELOPMENT. SO WE DO HAVE OUR PUBLIC RIGHT AWAY UP TOP. BUT I CAN TELL YOU FROM EXPERIENCE TO ADD CONNECTIVITY INTO SOMEONE ELSE'S DEVELOPMENT INTO A CONDO COMMUNITY. THEY. I'M NOT GONNA SAY WE ARE THEY PEOPLE, PEOPLE TEND NOT TO APPRECIATE THAT. SO I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY REALLY QUICKLY. I THINK THAT THE IDEA AND THE IMPETUS FOR US KIND OF ASKING FOR THAT WAS WE KIND OF HAVE A GREATER UM PLAN FOR THE NEW ALBANY NORTHEAST AREA, SO PART OF THAT IS KIND OF DOING THE BEST THAT WE CAN TO CONNECT. ALL OF THE GREEN SPACES MAKE THINGS MORE WALKABLE. SO IF WE CAN DO THAT, YOU KNOW, PIECEMEAL WITH THESE SMALLER DEVELOPMENTS , THEN YOU KNOW EVENTUALLY THAT WILL CREATE A LARGER NETWORK. SO I THINK THAT WAS THE IDEA TOTALLY TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THE IDEA TO ASK. DO YOU STILL HAVE A WALK FOR YOU ACROSS THE PLANE OF THE PROPERTY? YES THERE IS A 5 FT WRITERS SIDEWALK ACROSS THE BECAUSE THE ULTIMATE GOAL I THINK WAS TO HAVE A PATHWAY FOLLOWING ROCKY COURT CREEK, WHICH WOULD BE JUST ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE INTERSECTION THERE SO THAT PEOPLE CAN GO OUT THE WALK. THEY'RE LOCKED DOWN, GET ON THE PATH AND GO UP TO THE MICRO PARK. THIS THIS SIDEWALK ACTUALLY CONNECTS HUDSON SQUARE , WHICH WAS BUILT BACK IN THE END OF 2013. WITH THOSE CONDOS THAT WERE ALSO FINISHED UP IN THE 2013 TO 15 AREAS, SO THAT ACTUALLY THIS SIDEWALK WILL NOW ACTUALLY TAKE YOU ALL THE WAY OUT. TO WARN THE ROAD AND I THINK IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN WITH THE CONSTRUCTION WE HAVE UNDERWAY. WE WILL NOW HAVE SIDEWALKS. ALL THE WAY UP AND DOWN WARNER FROM HAMBLETON, TOO.
ALREADY. I THINK THEY'VE RUN ALL THE WAY NOW. WITH THAT. SO BUT I THINK WITH THE DEVELOPMENT ON THE EAST SIDE OF HAMBLETON ROAD, IT SHOULD GO AS FAR AS THE ROCKY FORK AREA, SO IT WHETHER A POINT THEY DO PUT THAT PATHWAY IN CONNECT, OKAY? AND ANOTHER QUESTION THAT I HAVE IS AND I REALIZE YOU DON'T HIT. SHOW IT ON THIS MAP, AND THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE CONCERNED WITH. BUT WHAT I'VE BEEN CONCERNED WITH FROM THE VERY BEGINNING IS THE VEHICULAR TRAFFIC ON HIM. MILTON ROAD, WITH ALL THESE APARTMENTS COMING IN AND RUNNING AND HAVE TO FUNNEL DOWN TO A TWO LANE ROAD TO GET ONTO THE FREEWAY. UH WHAT? WHAT IS THE LATEST FIGHT ON THAT. ARE THEY GOING TO WIDEN THAT AT ALL? OR HOW? HOW DO YOU BY ADDING ADDITIONAL APARTMENTS? UH MAKE IT ANY BETTER FOR ANYBODY IN THE AREA. SO WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IS I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT ADDITIONAL WIDENING ALONG WARNER ROAD OR HAMBLETON ROAD. BUT I CAN TELL YOU IS THAT OUR TRAFFIC ACCESS STUDIES UNDER REVIEW, IT DOES NOT RECOMMEND A TURN LANE FOR 82 UNITS ACTUALLY WAS NOT EVEN A REQUIREMENT SINCE IT'S UNDER 100. BUT THE CITY RECENTLY DID JUST DO. UM SOME COUNTS ON THIS SIDE OF WARNER ROAD AND THEN ON THE OTHER SIDE OF HAMILTON'S ROAD FOR COUNTS. BECAUSE WARNER ROAD IS STILL AND I'M I'M GONNA I'M GONNA MESS IT UP, BUT I CAN'T REMEMBER IF IT'S 45 OR 55 MILES AN HOUR IN THIS AREA TO REDUCE THE SPEED OF IT DOWN TO 35. BECAUSE GIVEN THE FULL DEVELOPMENT OF THE AREA EVEN AT 45. THAT'S PRETTY QUICK DOWN THIS WAY. SO WHILE NOT ADDITIONAL, I CAN TELL YOU THAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT REDUCING THE SPEED LIMITER THERE. YES THE OTHER THING THAT HAPPENS UP IN THIS AREA AS EVERY RESIDENTIAL UNIT THAT IS BUILT TO GET A PERMIT. YOU HAVE TO PAY A $2300 PAY AS WE GROW FEED TO THE CITY AND SUPPOSED TO GO BACK TOWARDS INFRASTRUCTURE. I BELIEVE THERE IS ALSO A REQUIREMENT TO JOIN THE COMMUNITY AUTHORITY IN THIS AREA WAS JUST FOR MILLS. UM AND THAT COMMUNITY AUTHORITY IS BASICALLY A CALLED A VOLUNTARY
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CHARGE. BUT YOU NEED TO DO IT IF YOU WANT YOUR ZONING, RIGHT. ALRIGHT SO, UH, BUT ANYWAY, THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE USED FOR THAT PURPOSE AS WELL. I CAN ALSO TELL YOU THAT, YOU KNOW I WAS INVOLVED IN HAMBLETON QUARTER. SEVERAL YOU KNOW, MANY YEARS AGO , AND I KNOW THERE'S MORE DEVELOPMENT LIKELY COMING DOWN THERE SOON. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT WILL BE, BUT I WOULD I WOULD GUESS THAT THAT WOULD ALSO KIND OF FILL THE COFFERS WITH SOME SOME FUNDS AS WELL. I DON'T KNOW WHETHER IT BE RESIDENTIAL. BUT THERE'S A TIFF DOWN THERE AND SO TO THE EXTENT THERE'S IMPROVEMENTS WOULD BE NEEDED. I THINK THERE'S GONNA BE SOME MONEY LAYING AROUND THE CITY TO DO THOSE THINGS HAMILTON'S WROTE AT THIS POINT IS ALMOST A WALNUT STREET. YEAH, THEY GOT APARTMENTS UP THERE AND EVERYTHING. AND THAT'S JUST THE HAMBLETON ROAD. BUT I DON'T. I CAN'T IMAGINE HOW THEY EVER LET IT GO THROUGH WITH BEING A TWO LANE HIGHWAY JUST ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BRIDGE. IT WAS SIX OR SIX, MAYBE EIGHT LEGS. IT JUST DIDN'T MAKE ANY SENSE. AND THEY BUILT ALL THESE APARTMENTS THAT THEY HAVE NOT DONE ANYTHING TO WIDEN THE ROAD THERE. AND I KNOW SEVERAL YEARS AGO, PEOPLE WERE COMPLAINING ABOUT ALL OF THE TIME THEY HAD TO SPEND SITTING AND WAITING TO GET THROUGH THE TRAFFIC. YOU KNOW IT. IT RUSH HOUR. YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE GOING TO WORK AND COMING HOME FROM WORK, IT WAS JUST NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE. SURE. I CAN ALSO TELL YOU THAT I'M IN TERMS OF THAT EXTENSION OF HAMILTON'S NORTHWARD SORT OF GOING TO BE A CURVE UP TO WALNUT. UM HAVE ANOTHER, OBVIOUSLY. AND YOU PROBABLY DON'T KNOW WHEN THE NEXT 6 TO 12 MONTHS ON A PROJECT ON A BIG PIECE OF PROPERTY UP THERE, AND I KNOW THE CITY IS REALLY ANXIOUS TO GET THAT CONNECTION MADE AND SO WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT THAT IN THE FUTURE, I THINK GOING NORTHWARD. OKAY, AT LEAST THEY'RE GOING TO TRY TO CONNECT INTO HARLEM ROAD.I SAY EITHER AT HARLEM ROAD OR SOMEWHERE JUST WEST OF THAT INTERSECTION. I THINK I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S BEEN DECIDED YET. I DON'T BELIEVE IT HAS OKAY. JUST CONFIRMING SCHOOLS. UM.
JUST COMMENT. YEAH SCHEMES DIFFERENT. GOT IT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE GROUP. UM, I HAVE JUST THAT TECHNICAL ONE IF THE BOARD WORK TO TAKE ACTION TODAY, IT'S JUST STAFF SO I KNOW THEY'RE BASED ON YOUR STAFF REPORT. THERE WAS SO ADDITIONAL INFORMATION NEEDED FOR A COUPLE OF CRITERIA. IS THAT COMFORTABLE FOR THE BOARD TAKING MAKING A DECISION OR SHOULD WE HOLD UP ON SOME OF THE INFORMATION THAT YOU'RE REQUESTING. MHM. UM, I THINK. I THINK FOR THE MOST PART, THE ANSWER TO THAT IS YES. UM I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY BEFORE YOU WOULDN'T VOTE ON THE VARIANCES AND ZONING SEPARATELY . UM THIS PANEL DOESN'T REALLY REVIEW UM, COUNCIL VARIANCES UNLESS THEY'RE ATTACHED TO A ZONING. UM SO IF WE WERE TO VOTE ON THAT TODAY WOULD BE BOTH THE ENTIRE PACKAGE OF THE ZONING IN ADDITION TO THE VARIANCES, UM SO THAT WOULD BE TODAY, IF YOU WOULD PLAN ON DOING THAT, I THINK, UM. IN MY OPINION, I THINK. IT'S KIND OF TOUGH TO SAY, BECAUSE WE TYPICALLY LIKE TO GO THROUGH A TWO MONTH PROCESS. UM BUT I WOULD SAY BASED ON WHAT THE CHECKLIST SAYS , UM, IT'S GOT AN 87.5% AND IT DOES SOUND LIKE SOME OF THE CONNECTIVITY ISSUES, UM, ARE BEING RESOLVED TODAY. SO. HESITANTLY YES. OKAY I MEAN, I THINK LIKE YES, I HEARD. YES I THINK THE BUILDING MATERIALS THAT'S IF IT'S SIMILAR PRODUCTS TO SOMETHING ELSE IN THIS AREA. TO ME THAT SEEMS LIKE WE'VE CAPTURED THAT. UM, I'M ASSUMING THE LOT COVERAGE WILL BE, UM UH , COMPLIED WITH GIVEN THAT YOU HAVE SUCH A LARGE SETBACK ON WARNER ROAD TO SO YES AND OTHERWISE, BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE. WE'RE NOT DOING THAT PLAN DISTRICT. WE RIGHT AROUND STANDARDS. WE'VE HAD TO ASK FOR A VARIANCE. SO SINCE WE'RE NOT WE HAVE TO MEET THAT REQUIREMENT. OKAY UM, LET ME ASK OR GROUP IF WE WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION OR FOR APPLICANT WITHIN. IT WOULD, UM, WANT TO STANDARD STAINING MOTION TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE IT AND CONCEPTUAL TO A DECISION TODAY? WE CAN DISCUSS THAT. THERE'S NO COMPLEXITIES HERE. RIGHT? I'LL JUST SAY AS A GENERAL STATEMENT . I MEAN, I LIKE TO TRY TO KEEP THINGS MOVING, YOU KNOW? I MEAN, IF WE, UM FEEL SUFFICIENTLY COMFORTABLE WITH IT AND GET IT OFF THE DOCKET. THAT MEANS EITHER WE DON'T MEET NEXT MONTH AND WE DON'T HAVE THREE ITEMS ON NEXT. NEXT MONTH. SO IF IT'S POSSIBLE BORDER TO BE EFFICIENT UNDERSTANDING. THERE ARE OTHER,
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UM STOPS IN THE PROCESS. UM I WOULD BE COMFORTABLE. HAVING THAT MAKING THAT DECISION TODAY.THAT WOULD BE APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH. SHOULD I MAKE A MOTION? SURE. I LIVED THAT WE CONVERT THIS CONCEPTUAL REVIEW TO A FINAL REVIEW AND I VOTE FOR APPROVAL. OKAY? DO YOU HAVE A 2ND 2ND? OKAY AND ALSO VOTE TO APPROVE. YEAH I THINK I THINK SHE SAID. I THINK I THINK I THINK WHAT WE DO IS, UM LET'S LET'S TRY TO KEEP IT SIMPLE. HERE LET'S LET'S WE'RE GONNA MAKE THIS DECISION. SO LET'S LET'S HANDLE THAT. AND THEN WE CAN HAVE WHATEVER OTHER DISCUSSION WE NEED TO HAVE BEFORE. CONTEMPLATING APPROVAL AND THEN GO FROM THERE, SO JUST QUICKLY WE WILL NEED TO MOTIONS SO THE FIRST MOTION WOULD BE TO MAKE IT TO MAKE IT FOR ACTION.
THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING. BEING CLEAR. YES APPRECIATE THAT . WE ALWAYS NEED CLARITY, SO WE'LL TAKE A ROLE IN THAT. MR HERSKOWITZ? YES, SIR. MR GUPTA.
MR SMITHERS? YES BONY? YES MR BRUBAKER. YES MR CHAPPELLE EAR? YES SIX VOTES IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION TO CONVERT THE APPLICATION TO AN ACTION ITEM TODAY. FANTASTIC MOTION CARRIES . SO IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ABOUT THE MERITS OF THE PROPOSAL. AND IF THERE ARE NONE WOULD WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL? I'LL MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE APPROVED THIS PROJECT.
SECOND THAT OKAY, LET'S TAKE A ROLE. MR HERSKOWITZ? YES, MR GUPTA. YES. MR SMITHERS? YES BONY? YES MR BRUBAKER. YES, MR CHAPPELLE EAR? YES. I HAVE SIX VOTES IN FAVOR OF THE APPLICATION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I APPRECIATE IT. YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU ABOUT THE MANY MEETINGS YOU HAVE TO GO TO. YEAH. YOU HAVE TIME TO GET WE HEARD THERE. WE HEARD THERE WAS A TRAFFIC JAM OF GETTING PEOPLE GETTING INTO THE. YEAH, EXACTLY . AREA. THE AREA IS GROWING AND YOU KNOW, WE GOTTA PROBABLY ROUND OUT ALL THESE OTHER EMPTY PARCELS. SO I JUST SAY, KEEP THEM MOVING. IF WE CAN AND ANOTHER ITEM. I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS PART OF THE ACTUAL MEETING OR NOT, BUT I THINK THAT AT LEAST I HAVE EXPERIENCE NOW AS I'VE HAD MORE TIME ON THIS PANEL, BUT I THINK THAT THE ONGOING CONVERSATIONS ABOUT TRAFFIC AND. THE TAX ISSUE RIGHT NOW, I WOULD SAY THOSE WILL BE PART OF YOUR PRESENTATIONS GOING FORWARD. I THINK THAT MAKES MORE EFFECTIVE BECAUSE I THINK WE ASKED THOSE QUESTIONS EVERY TIME SO OKAY. SCHOOL DISTRICT. I MEAN, WE PRETTY MUCH KNOW, BUT YOU DON'T KNOW WHO'S GOING TO BE COMING IN. JUST SAY, OKAY, IT'S THIS SCHOOL DISTRICT AND YEAH. I MEAN, IT MIGHT JUST BE, YOU KNOW. SOMETHING THAT WE DO ALL THE TIME, BUT IT COMES UP EVERY TIME SO GREAT ADVICE AND WILL BAKE IT IN. AND THAT WAY WE CAN SAVE EVEN MORE TIME. RIGHT SO OKAY EFFICIENCY WHEN IT WORKS. OKAY UM, THANK YOU. WE HAD SOME
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OTHER BUSINESS. WE HAD THE. THE AMENDMENT TO THE BYLAWS. AND IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS RIGHT. ELECTED CHAIRPERSONS MAY ALTERNATE LEADING THE IMPLEMENTATION PANEL MEETINGS, SO THAT MEANS THAT THERE WAS ALSO A NEW ALBANY ITEM . WE WOULD FLIP BACK AND FORTH WE WERE COMFORTABLE WITH. IS THIS AN ITEM THAT NEEDS TO BE VOTED UPON DISCUSSED OR DID IT GET SHOT DOWN FROM SOMEWHERE? YES THE CURRENT BYLAW READS. THE ELECTED CHAIRPERSON SHALL ALTERNATE LEADING THE IMPLEMENTATION IMPLEMENTATION PANEL MEETINGS, SO THEY EACH HOLDS THAT CHAIR AT EVERY THIRD MEETING. THAT'S WHAT THE BYLAWS STATE THAT ALTERNATES. BUT UNLESS MEETING WE VOTED TO CHANGE THAT TO AMEND THAT TO THE PERSON WHO IS ACTUALLY BLEEDING , THE MEETING HAD TO ACTUALLY CASE WOULD LEAD AND THEN THE CONCEPTUAL WOULD THEN TAKE OVER.SO WE WOULD JUST BE UPDATING THE BYLAWS TO REFLECT WHAT WAS VOTED ON AT THE LAST MEETING. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT PUTTING TOGETHER. THIS IS WHAT'S CURRENTLY ON THE BYLAWS THAT THIS IS THE PROPOSED TO CHANGE PROPOSED CURRENTLY, IT SAYS, YOU SHALL OKAY, THANKS. OKAY IS THIS ABOUT ITEM OR DISCUSSION ITEM ITEM? OKAY. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT? I THINK WE DISCUSSED THAT LAST TIME. BUT IF IT'S YOU KNOW, WE HAD DISGUSTING. YEAH, LET'S DISCUSS IT. UM ACTUALLY, I JUST
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LIKE TO CHANGE THE WORDING A LITTLE BIT. UM AND YOU GUYS CAN PIPE IN IF YOU LIKE. I READ THROUGH, OBVIOUSLY WHAT IS HAS BEEN PROPOSED, AND IT'S GOOD. I JUST FROM MY STANDPOINT, I WAS JUST I WROTE SOMETHING THAT I THINK HAS A LITTLE BIT MORE CLARITY. UM I SAID THE CHAIRPERSON, REPRESENTING A JURISDICTION WITH AN APPLICATION ON THE AGENDA WILL LEAD THE MEETING. WITH PREFERENCE GIVEN TO ACTION OVER CONCEPTUAL REVIEW IF MULTIPLE REVIEWS LEAD CHAIR MADE FOR TWO, REPRESENTING JURISDICTION CHAIR TO LEAD DISCUSSION ON THAT REVIEW.THAT'S KIND OF JUST THAT'S WHAT I BROUGHT UP LAST MEETING, SO THAT'S KIND OF REPRESENTING WHAT I THOUGHT WAS RIGHT AND MY REACTION TO THAT IS IT. IT'S CLEAR. I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND THAT . OKAY SO THAT THAT'S JUST SO YOU DON'T GUYS DON'T SWITCH GOING BACK AND FORTH. YOU JUST HAVE A SINGLE PERSON, BASICALLY , LIKE I SAID, IF I BREAK THIS DOWN AS ITS CHAIRPERSON, REPRESENTING A JURISDICTION WITH AN APPLICATION ON THE AGENDA WILL LEAD THE MEETINGS SO LIKE TODAY, UM, YOU KNOW, RALPH, OBVIOUSLY THIS IS COLUMBUS. SO HE LEADS IT IF WE'D HAD A SECOND OR THIRD, MAYBE A PLAIN TOWNSHIP APPLICATION AND MAYBE IN, UH, BEEN GOING FORWARD IS SO WITH PREFERENCE GIVEN TO ACTION ITEMS OVER CONCEPTUAL, SO BASICALLY, UH, THE LEAD WOULD BE THE LEAD CHAIR WOULD BE THE PERSON IF THERE WAS MULTIPLE ACTION ITEMS. AH THE ONE THE ONE THAT'S MORE AS AN ACTION ITEM OVER CONCEPTUAL TAKE THE LEAD, BUT THEN THAT THERE ARE MULTIPLE REVIEWS, LEAD CHAIR MADE MADE REFER TO REPRESENT JURISDICTION CHAIR TO LEAD THE DISCUSSION ON THAT REVIEW, AND THAT'S WHAT WE DID LAST LAST MEETING. I DEFERRED TO RALPH TO LEAD THE SECOND, WHICH WAS A IT WAS A CONCEPTUAL THANKS FOR CLARIFYING YEAH. UM I DON'T KNOW. I JUST I JUST WROTE SOMETHING UP. MAKES SENSE. DOES IT JUST IT WAS KIND OF WHAT I WAS PROPOSING LAST MEETING, AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE. STAFF DO YOU HAVE ANY CONCERNS ABOUT ABOUT THAT, AS PROPOSED I WAS GONNA SAY IF THAT'S THE PROPOSED LANGUAGE THAT WE'RE INTENDING TO USE. WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO JUST ADMIT THAT LITTLE BOURBON WRITING TO ONE OF US, UM SO WE CAN JUST MAKE SURE LIKE IN THE MINUTES. IT'S COMPLETELY REFLECTED JUST THAT WE HAVE THE EXACT WORDING. BECAUSE IT WILL BE UPDATED IN THE BYLAWS. DO YOU WANT ME? UH WE CAN CHANGE IT. I JUST LIKE I SAID, I WROTE IT BEFORE I CAME SO OH, NO, THAT'S PERFECTLY FINE. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE TODAY JUST AFTER THE MEETING. SOMETIMES JUST WE WANNA VOTE RUNNING. YEAH, OKAY. I MOVED TO APPROVE THE AMENDED BYLAWS. GIVEN THE VERB IT TODAY. I JUST TALKED ABOUT GIVEN THE VERVET JUST TALKED ABOUT I'LL SECOND OKAY, WELL, READ THE ROOM. MR BONEY? YES, MR CHAPPELLE. EAR TO YES. MR HERSKOWITZ? YES. MR SMITHERS? YES MR BRUBAKER? YES? I AM SIX VOTES IN FAVOR OF THE AMENDMENT TO THE BYLAWS, AS STATED BY MR BRUBAKER. OKAY FANTASTIC. I JUST HAVE ONE LAST. THIS IS NOT A WE HAVE TO DISCUSS OR DECIDE. I HOPE. UM I DON'T KNOW IF I HAVE A COPY OF THE BYLAWS. DO YOU EVER COPY? THANK YOU. YES YOU HAVE CONNECTIONS. I DON'T. I DON'T KNOW IF I HAVE CONNECTIONS. I WAS. YEAH, I WAS WONDERING IF MAYBE JUST SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MAKING A CHANGE IF WE CAN GET A COPY, UM, THAT BEFORE NEXT TIME WE GET TOGETHER. ABSOLUTELY. IT'S ALSO, UM IF YOU LOOK ON THE MAIN WEBSITE OF OUR OKAY, THE CALENDAR IS THERE ARE SOME LINKS UP AT THE TOP. OK READ THAT ALL THE TIME, SO I MUST HAVE JUST MISSED SO SURE. OKAY FANTASTIC. ALRIGHT FANTASTIC. YOU. I THINK WE'RE READY FOR OUR MOTION FOR ADJOURNMENT. OH BEFORE THAT, AND I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S EVEN OLD BUSINESS. BUT AND I MENTIONED THIS A LITTLE BIT BEFORE YOU GUYS GOT HERE? UH, IN THE FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH CATEGORY. THERE IS A UH, COMMUNITY GROUP. AH, THAT'S HAVING SOME. PROBLEMS WITH SOMETHING THAT WE HAD VOTED ON A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO. THE UH, STORAGE UNIT, THE STORY UNITS, WALLET STREET, OKAY, AND AH, THERE. SOME OF THE PEOPLE ARE HAVING A LOT OF PROBLEMS WITH IT AND HAVE MADE SOME DISPARAGING COMMENTS ABOUT THE ROCKY FORK, BLACK LIQUOR ACCORD AND THEIR MEMBERS AND THE MEMBERS OF PLAIN TOWNSHIP AND THINGS LIKE THAT. I KNOW THERE'S BEEN ONE MEETING THAT THEY HAD, AND THEY WERE UNSUCCESSFUL. NOBODY WOULD PAY ATTENTION TO HIM, AND I THINK THERE'S ANOTHER ONE THAT'S COMING UP. MAYBE YOU HAVE MORE INFORMATION ON THAT. BUT I JUST WANTED TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW THAT SOME PEOPLE OUT. THERE ARE NOT PARTICULARLY HAPPY WITH THE ROCKET BOARD.
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BLACK LOOK, ACCORDING TO CALL THAT PARTICULAR MEETING. I ASKED IF THEY COULD REDUCE THE NUMBER OF STORAGE UNITS. AND THE DEVELOPER SAID IT WOULD MAKE IT INFEASIBLE. SO I THOUGHT WHAT THEY WERE PRESENTING OFF OF THE FACE OF WELLNESS BARN ISSUES WERE WITH THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK. HOURS DRIVE. SO THAT'S I LIVE OUT THERE, SO I DIDN'T PROBABLY WOULD HAVE CHASED PEOPLE BUTCHER KNIFE OR SOMETHING. CAN I ANSWER SO THIS IS HAS THIS GONE AS THE TRUSTEES VOTES ON IT YET? I'M NOT SURE IF THEY HAVE OR NOT, SO I LEAST ON THE PLANE TOWN ON PLAYING TOWNSHIP APPLICATION. IT LEAVES HERE. WHERE DOES IT GO? DOES IT GO TO ZONING THINK IT'S FOUR STEPS RIGHT? PROBABLY THEY'RE GONE. I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, HOW FAR IS IT IN THE PROCESS? OR WHERE IS IT IN THE PROCESS, NOT SURE WHERE IT WOULD BE IN THE PROCESS. AND WHY ARE WE TO BLAME? BECAUSE WE VOTED ON IT FIRST. YEAH BUT I JUST WANTED PEOPLE TO BE AWARE OF THE FACT THAT THERE IS, UH THERE ARE IMPLICATIONS. THERE ARE IMPLICATIONS FOR EVERYTHING WE DO FOR SURE. AND I THINK ANOTHER PART OF THE EDUCATIONAL PROCESS . I KNOW THAT'S I GET SMARTER ON THIS, BUT ESPECIALLY WHEN WE HAVE SEATS IN HERE IS JUST REMIND EVERYONE OF WHAT THE PROCESS IS AND WHAT ARE PART OF IT IS, UM SO. I'LL MAKE SURE I KEEP MY BACK TO THE WALL.WHENEVER I'M IN THAT AREA, FOR SURE, UM BUT I UNDERSTAND. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, UM THEY'RE THEY'RE GOING TO BE PEOPLE THAT ARE. WHAT ARE THE WHAT ARE THE ISSUES? THEY WANTED TO BE KEPT A RURAL AREA. YEAH, AND UH, MY DAUGHTER WHO LIVES OVER IN THAT AREA. IS. I DON'T KNOW SOME SORT OF SOCIAL MEDIA PAGE FOR PEOPLE IN THAT AREA. AND SOMEBODY THERE AND SHE CALLED. SHE CALLED ME THE OTHER DAY AND SAYS, WHAT'S THIS ALL ABOUT? YOU KNOW, SHE PICKED UP ON THE ROCKY PORK BLACK LICK ACCORD AND SHE WAS WANTING TO KNOW WHAT IT WAS ABOUT, AND I BASICALLY TOLD HER WHAT WE DISCUSSED IN THE MEETING AND THE FACT THAT IT COULDN'T BE USED REALLY? FEASIBLY FOR HOMES AND THINGS OF THAT TYPE. THEN THE GUY WAS SETTING IT BACK OFF THE ROAD A LOT, AND HE'S PUTTING IN A POND UPFRONT AND EXISTING TREES ON ONE SIDE AND THE OTHER COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AND THAT ON THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY, BUT COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT ON THERE SINCE WELL, I WAS A KID. I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, IS THAT WHEN WE WERE WHEN WE HAD THIS PRESENTATION AND SO FORTH TO ME , IT SEEMED TO THAT THE THAT THERE WAS AN IMPROVEMENT ON THE PROPERTY. BASICALLY BECAUSE IT'S KIND OF A NICE OR AS IT IS, YES . SO I GUESS WITH DURING THE PRESENTATION, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THE BENEFIT WAS THAT THIS WAS AN IMPROVEMENT. YES. BUT IT'S NOT BEING DEEMED AS SEEN AS BEING IMPROVEMENT. NOT AT THIS POINT. GOING BACK TO WHAT JAY SAID ABOUT IT'S JUST I DON'T WANT IT AT ALL. OR IS IT JUST BECAUSE THERE'S TOO MUCH THERE? WE I DON'T THINK I DON'T THINK THAT THEY UNDERSTAND. THE CONCEPT OF WHAT WE SAW HERE. ALRIGHT YOU KNOW, FIRST OF ALL, HAVING BEEN AN OLD GAS STATION WITH ALL GAS TANKS, THE BROWNS RIGHT? IT WAS BROWN SIDE.
BROWNFIELD SORRY, BROWNFIELD. BUT YES. YEAH AND IT HAD TO BE MITIGATED RIGHT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, OR IT COULD BE DEVELOPED, SO IT'S AN IMPROVEMENT ON THE PROBLEM.
YEAH, BUT, UH I HAVE FOUND. THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T NECESSARILY UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON WHEN IT GOES ON. AND THEN THEY JUST WANT TO BE AGAINST IT. ONCE THEY FIND OUT SOMETHING IN THEIR AREAS CHANGED. SO YOU'RE BASICALLY GIVING US A HEADS UP. EXACTLY I'M NOT TRYING TO SOMEBODY COMES UP AND SAYS HEY OR YOUNG, JUST CORN. WHY DID YOUR PROOF THIS? AREN'T YOU ON THE RIGHT FOR BLACK SUPPORT? OKAY SEE, HE KNOWS HOW TO ANSWER RIGHT AWAY.
I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S JUST I MEAN, ANY MINNESOTA PALETTE E HAS A CHALLENGE WITH JUST EDUCATING RESIDENTS IN GENERAL, WITH REALLY ANY SORTS OF DEVELOPMENT. UM BUT I WOULD WANT TO RELAY I MEAN THE STORAGE FACILITY. IT MIGHT NOT BE THE MOST AESTHETICALLY PLEASING, BUT IT'S A VERY LOW INTENSE USE. SO IF THERE WAS A GAS STATION THAT WAS GOING TO GO BACK THERE, I MEAN, YOU WOULD HAVE A LOT MORE VEHICULAR TRAFFIC, SO HOPEFULLY THEY UNDERSTAND THAT IT COULD BE WORSE. I MEAN, THAT'S NOT WHAT THEY PROBABLY WANT TO HEAR. BUT UM, I COULD WRITE AS IT COULD BE REST RESTAURANT AND WASH ONE LIKES IT. I DON'T THINK IT'S ZONED FOR THAT. YEAH WELL, AND THE FACT IS, I DON'T REMEMBER ANY OF THOSE FOLKS BEING AT THIS MEETING HERE, RIGHT THERE, NOT NOTIFIED, WHICH WAS. SOMETHING BUT I GUESS THAT WOULD IMPROVE THE PROCESS FOR WHOEVER BROUGHT
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UP. THE FACT IS, YOU KNOW WITH PLAIN TOWNSHIP APPLICATIONS WORDS THAT GO NEXT NEXT NEXT, AND SO NOW PEOPLE CAN GET MORE INVOLVED. AND THEN BY THE TIME HE GOES TO WHATEVER THE ZONING BOARD. ARIZONA ARIZONA BOARD IS OR TO THE TOWNSHIP TRUSTEES CAN GET IN THERE HERE AND MAKE THEIR PRESENTATIONS. RIGHT? YEAH. YEAH I WOULD THINK THAT THEY COULD, BUT THEY DON'T. THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT. ALL THEY KNOW IS THAT THIS HAS BEEN APPROVED AND WELL, WE DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT, AND YOU KNOW THERE. THE NATIVES ARE RESTLESS. YEAH. THANKS FOR BRINGING IT TO OUR TO ME. WELL YEAH, I APPRECIATE THAT. I HOPE WHEN I CAN YOU DO, MIKE. SO THAT'S THAT'S ALL I HAVE. JUST F Y I Y I THANK YOU. EVERYONE CHECKING CARS WAY. HMM NO, I DON'T THINK IT'S QUITE THAT SERIOUS. YEAH ANYONE WALKING AROUND THAT YOU DON'T KNOW WHO THEY ARE. YOU CALL SOMEONE, ANYBODY? ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING THEY WANT TO BRING UP DURING THE MEETING? YEAH, NO ONE IS THIS YOUR LAST MEETING? SO WHY WERE YOU RELUCTANT TO GET THIS THING OFF THE ER? HE'S LOOKING OUT FOR YOU THE BIGGEST SMILE ON HIS FACE WHEN HE SAYS THAT I DON'T KNOW. IT'S BEEN A GOOD EXPERIENCE, AND I'VE ACTUALLY LEARNED QUITE A BIT BEING HERE. SO, UM THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE. YOU WORKING WITH US? BUT NO, THANK YOU SO MUCH. I APPRECIATE THAT. ALL RIGHT, WELL , WE'LL GO AHEAD AND ASK FOR THAT MOTION FOR ADJOURNMENT. SECOND, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN. 2ND 2ND, ALRIGHT. I DON'T THINK WE HAVE TO VOTE ON THAT SO WE'LL SEE YOU NEXT TIME WHENEVER THAT IS, YEAH. YEAH.* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.