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ALREADY. GOOD EVENING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN AND WELCOME TO THE NORTHERN CITY COUNCIL MEETING FOR TUESDAY. NOVEMBER 21ST, I WOULD INVITE EVERYONE TO PLEASE STAND WITH COUNSEL AND RESET OUR NATIONAL PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. WHAT WE LACK UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. HISTORY IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INVISIBLE JUSTICE GIRL. LIKE THOSE SIGNS. COURT MASON THE ROLE PLEASE CANCEL WILL TURN ON THEIR MICROPHONES. MAYOR SPAULDING COUNCIL MEMBER CHRIS HERE, COUNCIL MEMBER DEREK COUNCIL MEMBER FELLOWS COUNCIL MEMBER KISS COUNCIL MEMBER SHOP HERE.
COUNCIL MEMBER WILL TROUT IS OUT FOR A FAMILY FUNCTION AND HAS REQUESTED TO BE EXCUSED, RIGHT? I WOULD MOVE THAT WE EXCUSE THE ABSENCE OF COUNCIL MEMBER WILL TROUT. SECOND SPALDING MEMBER RISK? YES COUNCIL MEMBER SHOW? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER KISS? YES YES, YES, YES, VOTES TO EXCUSE
[4. ACTION ON MINUTES]
COUNCIL MEMBER WILL SHOW FROM TONIGHT'S MEETING. ACTION ON THE MINUTES PRIOR TO TONIGHT'S MEETING A COPY OF THE POST MINUTES FROM NOVEMBER. 7TH MEETING. WE DISTRIBUTE THE COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS? PROPOSED MINTS HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY NOTES THEN THAT WOULD MOVE FOR THE ADOPTION OF THE MINUTES BY CONSENSUS ADDITIONS OR[5. ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS TO THE AGENDA]
CORRECTIONS TO THE AGENDA WHEN ANYONE FROM STAFF OR COUNSEL LIKE TO RECOMMEND ANY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS TO THE AGENDA. I WANT TO CHECK WITH STAFF RIGHT NOW. WE'VE GOT THE BUDGET UPDATE HAPPENING AFTER THE EXECUTIVE SESSION AFTER IN OTHER BUSINESS, ARE YOU OKAY? HAVING IT THEIR EXECUTIVE SESSION. IF WE HAVE IT, IT'S MY ISSUE. IT SHOULD BE VERY SHORT. BUT I'M HAPPY TO SWAP PLACES WITH YOU IF YOU'D LIKE. OKAY? AND THEN JUST SINCE YOU BROUGHT IT UP ON THE EXECUTIVE SESSION WAS THAT JUST FOR REAPPOINTMENTS? ARE WE CONSIDERING OTHER NEW APPOINTMENT? YOU'RE NOT CONSIDERING ANY. NO, IT'S JUST WHETHER YOU WANT TO RENEW AND THERE WON'T BE ACTION ON IT AFTER LET ME DISCUSS COUNSELORS ANYONE THAT WANTED TO ENGAGE IN EXECUTIVE SESSION THAT CONSIDER THE REAPPOINTMENTS NO. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS IN THE MEANTIME, UNTIL WE GET THERE, I DO HAVE MATERIALS HERE. IF YOU WANT TO TAKE A QUICK LOOK, JUST LET ME KNOW THAT MY SHOULDER THERE'S A CHANCE THEN THAT WE MADE FORGO THE EXECUTIVE SESSION[6. HEARING OF VISITORS]
FOR WILL FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET THERE. ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS? ALL RIGHT HERE IN YOUR VISITORS. IS THERE ANYONE FROM THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS COUNCIL REGARDING A MATTER THAT IS ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA? MR JOHNSON? YES. IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME FORWARD IF YOU'LL GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND I WILL PULL UP YOUR TWO SLIDES, AND THERE SHOULD BE A CLICKER ON THE PODIUM THERE. ACTUALLY HANDOUTS TONIGHT. GIVE US OR YES, YOU'RE WELCOME TO HAND THEM OUT DIRECTLY. COUNCIL IF YOU LIKE. I ONLY BROUGHT THEM. THAT'S OKAY.I'LL STEAL MINE FROM HIM. WE CAN SHARE, OKAY AT THE DESK. AH HI. MY NAME IS PHIL JOHNSON.
UM I LIVE IN 7598 DOUBLE HAMMER ROAD. APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S TIME TONIGHT. SO THE HANDOUT YOU'RE SEEING HERE, UM, JUST FOR EVERYONE'S KNOWLEDGE. I LIVE ESSENTIALLY TWO HOUSES SOUTH OF DOUBLE HAMMER. PART TWO HOUSES SOUTH OF THE PICKLE BALL COURTS. AND SO TONIGHT, I'M HERE TALKING ABOUT EDUCATION OF THE NOISE. AH AND JUST TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW THAT THERE IS NOISE FROM THAT THE PICKLE BALL COURTS THAT'S ENTERING ONTO MY PROPERTY. UM AND IT'S YOU KNOW SOMETHING I REALLY DON'T WANT TO HEAR SO THERE'S A HANDOUT I GAVE YOU AND I'M JUST GOING TO KIND OF FOLLOW THAT. THAT KIND OF HELPS ME STAY ON TRACK AND KEEP THIS AS SHORT AS POSSIBLE. OKAY UM SO I THOUGHT IT WAS CRAZY. UM I WAS A LITTLE NERVOUS COMING HERE. UM BUT IT APPEARS THAT I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE IN THE WORLD THAT DOESN'T LIKE THE TO HEAR. APPLICABLE. UM I DO ENJOY PLAY.
THINK OF ALSO, I'M NOT A I DON'T HATE PICKLEBALL. I ACTUALLY ENJOYED PLAYING. IT WAS THERE THIS WEEKEND PLAYING WITH MY FAMILY, AND I DON'T I DON'T HATE PICKUP BALL PLAYERS OR BUT I JUST DON'T LIKE THE NOISE. SO THE WAY I LOOK AT IT IS, UM YOU KNOW, I ENJOY GOING TO CONCERTS I ENJOY GOING TO SPORTING EVENTS ENJOY GOING TO AN ESCORT RACE OR TO FORMULA ONE RACE, BUT IT'S SOMETHING I DON'T PARTICULARLY WANT TO LIVE NEXT TO. OKAY UM, THE CHALLENGE WITH PICKUP ALWAYS IT'S DUST TO DAWN RIGHT EVERY DAY, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK. UM AND IN SOME CASES, IT'S PAST DUST.
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FRIDAY NIGHT. THERE ARE PEOPLE PLAYING AT 11 O'CLOCK AT NIGHT, SO ALL RIGHT, SO, UM, ESSENTIALLY WHAT I ON SLIDE TWO OR WHAT? THE HANDOUT THAT YOU HAVE HERE. I'M GONNA REFERENCE SOME THINGS FROM A STUDY THAT WAS DONE IN COLORADO, THE CITY OF CENTENNIAL IN JULY OF THIS YEAR TO STUDY THEY HAD A LOT OF USEFUL INFORMATION. THAT HELPED EDUCATE ME. AND SO I'M GONNA BE REFERRING TO THAT PRIMARILY PRIMARILY TONIGHT. UM SO A SLIDE THREE. YOU COULD I'M SORRY.WHATEVER YOU PREFER. YEAH, THANK YOU. SO THERE'S FOUR KEY POINTS THAT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT TONIGHT. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE DISTANCE OF THE PICKLE BALL COURTS. THERE ARE 350 FT FROM RESIDENTS. UM AGAIN. I'M THE SECOND HOUSE THERE AT 7 5 9 8 550 FT ROUGHLY FROM THE PICKLE BALL COURTS AGAIN. THE RESIDENTS IN NORTH BAY IS 350 FT. UM SO THE REAL, UM POINT THAT I WANT TO MAKE HERE BASED ON THE STUDY THAT I GAVE GAVE EVERYONE OR THE MAJORITY OF EVERYONE, UM, I'M JUST GONNA READ SOME BURBAGE HERE FROM THAT STUDY. HE SAYS COURTS LOCATED WITHIN 350 FT. OF RESIDENT PROPERTIES IN MOST CASES REQUIRES A NOISE ABATEMENT. SO LOUIS WEIGHT NOISE ABATEMENT IS SETBACKS. NOISE BARRIERS, SOUND MASKING ORIENTATION, UM PHONE BALLS AND PICK THEM ALL IS A PLASTIC BALL, BUT THE PHONE BALLS TRANSMITS. LESS SOUND. UM IT ALSO GOES ON TO SAY PICKLEBALL COURT SITES WITHIN 500 TO 600 FT. OF NOISE SENSITIVITY AREAS SHOULD BE REVIEWED BY A QUALIFIED ACOUSTICAL ENGINEER WHEN YOU MAKE A SITE SELECTION AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT. UH UM. THE SECOND POINT HERE IS UH UM, IF YOU NOTICE THAT WILL HAMMER RUNS NORTH TO SOUTH. OKAY AND THE COURTS RUN NORTH TO SOUTH. UM. THE THIS. UH THIS IS THE IMAGE THAT I'M SHOWING HERE IS FROM THE STUDY AND YOU'LL NOTICE THAT THE COURTS ARE LAID OUT NORTH TO SOUTH HERE AS WELL. SO IN OUR CASE AT BEVEL HAMMER, IT'S IN A SIMILAR LOCATION. SO SOUND IS TRANSMITTING MORE NORTH AND SOUTH, AND OBVIOUSLY I'M LIVING SOUTH OF THAT, AND THAT'S THAT'S CAUSING. PART OF THE PART OF THE CHALLENGE. HERE IS THE NOISE IS BEING TRANSMITTED. TO THE SOUTH. THE THIRD POINT THAT I WANT TO MAKE IN THIS STUDY. POINTS THIS OUT AS YOU'LL NOTICE THAT THE POND POND ABOUT 150 FT. OF THE 350 FT FROM THE CLOSEST PROPERTY. THEN AGAIN, I'M QUOTING HERE, KIND OF SOME WORDS FROM THE STUDY SAYS BODIES OF WATER SUCH AS PONDS OR LAKES OR SPECIAL OR A SPECIAL TYPE OF GROUND THAT IS HIGHLY REFLECTIVE. IT ALSO TENDS TO FORM A LAYER OF COOL AIR NEAR ITS SERVICE, CAUSING FRACTURES. THE STUDY GOES ON TO SAY IN CASES THAT THE GROUND BETWEEN PICKLEBALL COURTS. IN RECEIVING PROPERTY WITH WATER WITH DISTANCE. SHOULDN'T EXCEED 802,000 FT. IN MOST CASES IN TERMS OF PUTTING A PICKUP ALL ACCORDION, SO THE POINT HERE IS THAT, UM YOU KNOW, I'M GONNA I'M NO EXPERT, RIGHT? UM, I'M JUST I'VE BEEN TRYING TO DO SOME RESEARCH TO UNDERSTAND WHY I HEAR THE NOISES SO DISTINCTLY, UM, IN MY BACKYARD. UH AND I THINK PART OF THE REASON IS THE WATER THERE IS REALLY CAUSING THAT THAT SOUNDED TO TRANSMIT UNDER MY PROPERTY. THE LAST POINT HERE IS, UM YOU KNOW, I DON'T BELIEVE MY UNDERSTANDING. THERE HAS BEEN A SOUND STUDY OR A SOUND ENGINEER THAT'S BEEN HIRED. UM AND SO MY ASK IS, UM, YOU KNOW, MHM ONE. I'M WARNING YOUR YOUR HELP TO HELP MITIGATE THIS SOUND ON MY PROPERTY. THAT'S THE NUMBER ONE REASON THE SECOND THING THAT I WOULD JUST ASK BEFORE YOU START TO MOVE FORWARD WITH ANY OTHER THINGS OUT THERE IS TO CONSIDER THAT AH , AND LOOK TO SOLVE THE SOUND ONTO MY PROPERTY. THE OTHER THING WOULD BE TO MAYBE CONSIDER , UM, HIRING SOUND SPECIALIST OR ENGINEERING TO MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER YOU ARE DOING OUT THERE ISN'T GOING TO MAKE THE PROBLEM WORSE. I MEAN, IT'S THE LAST THING THAT CERTAINLY FOR MYSELF, I WOULD WANT TO NOT WANT IT TO BE. ANY WORSE THAN WHAT IT IS CERTAINLY HAD LIKE THE YOU KNOW,
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RESOLVE IT AND NOT HEAR ANY OF THAT PICKLEBALL NOISE. SO UM, BUT THAT'S THAT'S UM, BASICALLY WHAT I WANTED TO SHARE TONIGHT THAT THERE IS OBVIOUSLY SOME NOISE ENTERING UNDER MY PROPERTY . UM IT IS A SPORT THAT ENJOY TO PLAY. BUT IT'S JUST NOT SOMETHING I WANT TO HEAR EVERY DAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. QUESTIONS OF COUNSEL, MR JOHNSON . UM HOW LONG HAVE YOU LIVED THAT ADDRESS? ALMOST 18 YEARS, OKAY? SO YOU'VE BEEN THERE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE SERVICE AREA THAT SPORTS SPORTING FIELDS, THE BASKETBALL COURTS. YES. ALL THOSE ACTIVITIES HAVEN'T CAUSED ANY SOUND ISSUES THAT YOU I FELT THE NEED TO COME TO COUNCIL TO ADDRESS CORRECT NOW. OKAY UM, SO THE TWO SOLUTIONS YOU HAD WAS AGAIN JUST IN A BROAD SENSE. WANT TO MITIGATE THE SOUND FOR THE RESIDENTS? I'M ASSUMING NOT JUST YOURSELF FROM THE PICKLE BALL COURTS AND THEN ALSO TO HIRE A SPECIALIST TO EVALUATE ANY REMEDIAL PLAN THAT WE MAY SUGGEST. YOU'RE NOT SUGGESTING THAT WE CLOSED THE COURTS. UM YOU KNOW, I HAVE A LOT OF FRIENDS AND IN THIS COMMUNITY, AND I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA RECOMMENDATION AND I APPRECIATE THAT. YOU DID START BY SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU ENJOY PLAYING PICKUP BALL AND YOU KNOW, UM, IT ISN'T YOU KNOW, THE FAST GROWING SPORT. THERE'S A LOT OF INTEREST IN IT. UM WE'LL PROBABLY TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT TONIGHT AND CERTAINLY IN THE FUTURE, BUT THERE ARE SOME ONGOING CONVERSATIONS ABOUT , YOU KNOW, PUTTING SOME ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING. SOME SOUND BARRIERS, PERHAPS IN COVERING. AND WE'RE JUST EVALUATING THOSE COSTS AND ELEMENTS TO IT. BUT YOU KNOW ALL PUNISHMENT ASIDE, YOU KNOW, WE HEAR YOU. YEAH I UNDERSTAND THAT. THIS IS A CONCERN AND WE WANT TO DO OUR BEST TO TRY TO TRY TO MITIGATE THOSE ISSUES AS BEST WE CAN. UM I'D HATE TO HAVE TO DRAIN THAT POND AND HATE TO HAVE TO UM, CLOSED THE COURTS.AND THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT YOU KNOW, WE AS A LAST RESORT WOULDN'T WANT TO TRY TO DO. BUT THERE ARE SOME, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE MANY OTHER THINGS THAT WE CAN ATTEMPT. TO TRY TO DEAL WITH MITIGATING SOME SOUND ISSUES. UM AGAIN. WE PUT THE COURTS IN PRETTY PRETTY QUICK. WE CAN INSTRUCTED PRETTY QUICKLY THERE WAS, YOU KNOW A LITTLE PIT PENT UP DEMAND TO PLAY. UM COULD HAVE PROBABLY BEEN A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME THINKING ABOUT THE SOUND ISSUES. SO OUR APOLOGIES FOR THE INCONVENIENCE AND THANK YOU FOR COMING FORWARD TONIGHT AND SHARING NOT ONLY YOUR SLIDE DECK, BUT YOUR CONCERNS. AND SOMETHING WILL LOOK AT FOR SURE. UM AGAIN, DON'T HESITATE TO TALK TO STAFF OR ANY MEMBER OF COUNCIL HERE IF YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL ISSUES, BUT SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT, AND WE'LL JUST TRY TO WORK THROUGH IT TOGETHER. OKAY THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT, SIR. HMM HMM. RIGHT ANY OTHER MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS COUNCIL REGARDING MATTER THAT IS NOT AN INTERNATIONAL AGENDA. AND THAT
[7. BOARD/COMMISSION REPORTS]
TAKES US TO BORDEN COMMISSION REPORTS ANY UPDATE FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION. YEAH UM, WE HAD A MEETING YESTERDAY AND WE ENDED UP TABLING A COUPLE OF ISSUES. ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT WE TABLED WAS A RIM KIN ROOM. CHIN AH, HAZARDOUS WASTE STORAGE FACILITY THAT NEEDS A VARIANCE IN ORDER TO STORE OUTDOORS BEYOND THEIR SETBACK, AND WE HAD A CROWD OF PEOPLE HERE THAT WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT PARTICULAR. UM. THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT AND THEY CHOSE TO TABLE IT AND GO BACK AND LOOK AT SOME SOME OTHER CONCEPTS AND POTENTIAL SOLUTIONS. BEFORE THERE WAS A RULING. THERE WAS ALSO AH, THE OWNERS OF THE LOTS WHERE THERE IS GOING TO BE I PULL UP MY NOTES HERE WITH ME. AND IT CAME AT ME FASTER AND THAT WAS READY. MM. HERE WE GO.AH, THE, UH YES, IT WAS WRENCH. UM, HAZARDOUS MATERIALS. WE ALSO HAD, UM. THE A COUPLE THAT WAS HERE THAT OWNS A HOME ON CALVERTON SQUARE IN THE RESERVE. THEY WANTED TO SCREEN IN A PORTION OF THEIR PATIO AND THEN FOUND OUT THAT THEIR PATIO IS IN FACT, ILLEGALLY BUILT OVER THE ENCROACHMENT AREA. THE CONSERVATION EASEMENT FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO NOW IT'S BECOME
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AN ISSUE OF THEY MAY ACTUALLY LOSE THE ENTIRE PATIO. UH AS WELL AS NOT GETTING THE SCREENED IN COURTS, SO THAT ALSO WAS TABLED. BOTH OF THESE MATTERS BY THE WAY, WERE TABLED UNTIL JANUARY. 17TH I APOLOGIZE, WRENCHING WAS ALSO TABLED BECAUSE PETITIONER WAS NOT HERE PRESENT. SO WE HAD A FULL HOUSE OF PEOPLE WITH CONCERNS AND THEY SPOKE ABOUT THEIR CONCERNS. THE PROPERTY IS SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 4 TO 800 FT FROM SEVERAL HOMES. UM AND SINCE THE APPLICANT WASN'T HERE, COUNSEL ADVISED US AND THE BOARD AGREED THAT THEY SHOULD GIVE THE PETITIONER SECOND CHANCE TO SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES. AND SO IT WAS TABLED TO THE JANUARY MEETING. CALVERTON SQUARE. ONE WAS ALSO TABLED TO THE JANUARY 17TH MEETING. I THINK THEY FELT FAIRLY CONFIDENT THAT THEY WERE LIKELY TO NOT GET THE VOTE THEY WERE LOOKING FOR, AND THEY DECIDED THAT THEY WOULD TRY WITH THEIR H O A FIRST AND SEE IF THEY COULD NEGOTIATE SOMETHING WITH THEIR OWN SHOW AND THEN COME BACK HERE IN JANUARY. AH QUARTER STONE ACADEMY WAS HERE AND THEY'RE EXPANDING INTO THE AIR ADJACENT PROPERTY, AND THAT PLAN WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED THE WOODHAVEN MODEL HOME WAS ALSO UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED. YEAH, AND I FEEL AS THOUGH I'M STILL FORGETTING SOMETHING ELSE FROM MY NOTES STEVE TWO MORE I WANT TO HELP ME TO MODEL HOMES AND THEN UH OH. THE LAST ONE WAS THE CREDIT UNION AND COFFEE SHOP. THANK YOU, WHICH THEY NOW HAVE A VERY DIFFERENT WAY OF DOING THE TURNAROUND TO THEIR DRIVE THROUGH THAN THEY HAD THE FIRST TIME WHEN IT WAS TABLED BECAUSE AGAIN IT WAS CLEAR PLANNING COMMISSION WAS NOT GOING TO APPROVE THAT. THEY NOW HAD A PLAN THAT PLANNING COMMISSION UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED. SO. I THINK I GOT IT ALL AT THAT POINT. THANK YOU. CORNERSTONE IS ARE THEY GOING TO INCLUDE ATHLETIC FIELDS AND THAT NEW DESIGNERS ARE JUST BUILDINGS? I BELIEVE IT WAS GOING TO BE ATHLETIC FIELDS ALSO, AND THERE WAS A LOT OF TALK ABOUT THAT. THEY HAVE ENOUGH PARKING LOT ONCE THEY DID THAT, AND THEY FELT THAT THEY WERE COMFORTABLE THAT THEY HAD ENOUGH ROOM FOR THE ATHLETIC FIELDS FOR THIS FIRST SUFFICIENT PARKING AND FOR THE EXPANSION THAT THEY EXPECTED IN THEIR THEIR, UH, AMOUNT OF STUDENTS IN THEIR POPULATE STUDENT POPULATION. WHERE THEY FELT THEY WOULD BE AT FULL CAPACITY. SO AND I APOLOGIZE, BEN. A WHILE OVER A YEAR, PROBABLY SINCE I SAY ANY RENDERINGS FOR THAT, BUT ARE THE ATHLETIC FIELD STILL ADJACENT TO 605 AND THE ROAD OR THEY'VE BEEN REIMAGINED TO MOVE THEM AWAY FROM THE TRAFFIC AREAS. SO CORNERSTONE. THEY ARE CURRENTLY LEASING WHAT WE CALL THE NAKATA ONE BUILDING ON, UM, WEST OVAL ROAD AND SO THEY ARE ABOUT TO LEASE THE OTHER TWO BUILDINGS FOR THE HIGH SCHOOL, AND THERE'S AN OPEN FIELD TO THE EAST OF THERE THAT THEY'RE ALSO HOPING TO EITHER PURCHASE OR LEASE AND THAT'S WHERE THE PLATE PLAYING FIELDS WILL GO. SO THEY WILL THAT IS ADJACENT TO 605 LOVE.REMEMBER I BELIEVE IT'S JUST ONE LOT LESS OKAY? YES SO IT'S BECAUSE THERE WAS DISCUSSION ABOUT WHETHER THEY WOULD STILL NEED TO KEEP THE NETTING. THAT THEY HAD THAT'S RIGHT. BUT IT WOULD BE JUST A LONG WAS IT WEST CAMPUS ROAD THERE, BUT NOT ALONE. 605 ANYMORE. I NOTICED THERE WAS A REZONING SITE. PUT BACK WITH THAT SCHOOL WAS SUPPOSED TO GO. AND NOW WE'RE THE REQUEST. AS I UNDERSTAND IT IS TO REZONE THAT BACK TO ITS ORIGINAL. BEFORE WE RE ZONED FOR THE SCHOOL THAT THAT IS CORRECT. YES MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THERE'S BEEN SOME SORT OF LAND DEALER SWAP, BUT THE NEW PROPERTY OWNER, I GUESS YOU COULD SAY THE PREVIOUS ONE.
YEAH, HAS SUBMITTED A REASONING APPLICATION TO ESSENTIALLY REVERT BACK WHERE THAT CORNER WAS WHERE CORNERSTONE DID RESUME BACK TO ITS ORIGINAL. I THINK LG BREEZE DOWNING. AND SO THAT'S GOING TO GO TO THE PLANNING KIT COMMISSION. I BELIEVE IN DECEMBER AND SHOULD COME TO COUNCIL. I BELIEVE IN JANUARY. YEAH, THANKS. ALRIGHT MARLENE. REAL QUICK, YEAH FAMILY AND HAS A PATIO. WERE THEY NEW HOME OWNERS TO THAT IT WASN'T NECESSARY ISSUE CORRECT. THEY BOUGHT THE HOUSE WITH THE PATIO THERE, AND OBVIOUSLY I CAN'T TELL YOU WHAT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED FOR SURE, THERE'S NO GUARANTEE, BUT I HAD A SENSE THAT I'M PLANNING COMMISSION WAS CLEARLY LOOKING TO DIVIDE THE VOTE INTO TWO SEPARATE VOTES. ONE WAS CAN THEY KEEP THEIR CURRENT PATIO AND ONE WAS WHETHER THEY WOULD HAVE THE SCREENING? I DON'T KNOW HOW EITHER OF THOSE WOULD HAVE GONE BUT THEY HAD CHOSEN TO DIVIDE THOSE UP. BUT THEN, AS THE DISCUSSION WENT ON, UH, THE HOMEOWNERS DECIDED THAT THEY WERE GOING TO BACK OUT FOR THE MOMENT AND TAKE IT TO THEIR HOU AND SEE IF THERE WAS SOMETHING THERE WAS DISCUSSION ABOUT.
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MAYBE THEY COULD SWAP OUT PULLING THE PATIO BACK FURTHER AWAY FROM THE CONSERVATION EASEMENT SINCE THEY DON'T NEED ALL OF IT IF THEY'RE GOING TO SCREEN IT ANYWAY, IN EXCHANGE FOR THE RIGHT TO DO THAT, SEE WHAT THEY COULD DO THEIR AND THEN MAYBE PEOPLE WOULD BE MORE POSITIVE OVER HERE. THEY COULD WORK SOMETHING OUT WITH YOUR H O A AND WE, YOU KNOW, WE THEY WERE EDUCATED ON THE FACT THAT EVEN IF IT HAD BEEN APPROVED HERE IT DIDN'T MEAN H O A COULDN'T STILL TURN AROUND NOW UNTIL YOU KNOW SO. I THINK IT WAS KIND OF LIKE MAYBE START THERE AND SEE WHAT YOU CAN DO. BUT NO. YEAH, THEY BOUGHT IT WITH THE PATIO. THERE HAD NO IDEA IT WAS CLEAR THE PATIO HAD BEEN BUILT WITHOUT A PERMIT. NOBODY KNEW IT EXISTED UNTIL THEY WENT UNTIL STAFF WENT TO GO. LOOK AT THE APPLICATION FOR THE SCREENED IN FENCE IT WAS , YOU KNOW, UNFORTUNATE PEOPLE FELT I THINK EVERYONE IN THE ROOM FELT BADLY FOR THESE. PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY THOUGHT IT EXPECTING TO BE ABLE TO AFFECT YOU EXPECT ME TO BE ABLE TO SCREEN THAT IN SO AND THEY'RE THEY'RE WHERE THEY'RE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE SCREENED IN PORCH OR IS THAT ALSO I THINK THAT NEEDED A VARIANCE TO OR IS THAT SO THEY JUST THEY TABLED EVERYTHING FOR THEM TO GET TABLE NEXT. NO BACK IN JANUARY. YEP. THE NEXT MEETING PLANNING COMMISSION? NO I THINK ON BOTH OF THE ISSUES THAT GET TABLED TO JANUARY. NOBODY REALLY WANTED TO COME DECEMBER 20TH OR WHATEVER IT WAS SO EVERYBODY DECIDED IT WOULD BE BETTER TO COME BACK IN A JANUARY. SURPRISE ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION TYPE IT DO WE KNOW WHEN THE BOEHEIM OR REZONING WILL GO TO PLANNING COMMISSION. FOR THE CHILDREN'S FIELDHOUSE TIMER DOWN BEHIND DUNCAN DONUTS. DEVIL HEIMER AND 62 AND WALTON PARKWAY. THREE MONTHS. YEAH. YES. I BELIEVE THAT ONE IS SCHEDULED TO GO INTO SOME BURR, THE ONE THAT'S ON THE EAST SIDE OF PEOPLE WHO I'M A ROAD NEAR WALTON WILL BE IN DECEMBER. OKAY? I BELIEVE IT'S DECEMBER 8TH 18TH, AND WE'RE JUST CONFIRMING HERE. DOES THAT GO TO ZONING OR PLANNING COMMISSION FIRST? OH I'M SORRY. IT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO WHAT WE CALL THE INFORMAL DATES. SO IT'S GOING ON MONDAY, DECEMBER 4TH DEPLOYMENT COMMISSION, SO THAT IS A REZONING. SO THAT WILL GO TO I THINK I BELIEVE IT HAS ALREADY GONE TO THE ROCKY FORK, BLACK LOOK ACCORD AND RECEIVED A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION FROM THAT GROUP. SO IT'S NOW SCHEDULED TO PLANNING COMMISSION AGAIN ON DECEMBER. 4TH AND CITY COUNCIL WILL ULTIMATELY HAVE TO HEAR THAT REZONING IN THOSE STATES HAVE NOT YET BEEN SCHEDULED, ANNOUNCED PUBLICLY THAT DECEMBER 4TH. I BELIEVE SIMPLY SEQUENCE WITH THE NORMAL MEETINGS. IF WE HAVEN'T SENT THEM OUT TODAY, EITHER IT'S EITHER TODAY OR TOMORROW IS WHEN WE ARE SCHEDULED ANOTHER NEIGHBOR NOTIFICATION LETTER, SO IF WE HAVEN'T SENT THEM OUT ALREADY, THEN I BELIEVE WE'LL SEND THOSE OUT TOMORROW. OKAY GOOD. THANK YOU. SORRY FOR THE DELAY THERE. GETTING OFF TRACK.ALRIGHT ANY OTHER QUESTIONS REGARDING PLANNING COMMISSION? AND TRAILS. NO MEANING ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD WILL TRIALS. NOT WITH US TONIGHT WAS RUNNING UPDATE FROM STAFF.
ALRIGHT BORDER ZONING APPEALS GIVING SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD WE HAD A MEETING NOVEMBER 8TH, UM, IT WAS ACTUALLY A GOOD MEETING. WE, UH COVERED. WE HAD TWO PRESENTATIONS FROM OUR STUDENT LEADERS IN SUSTAINABILITY, PILOT GRANT PRESENTATION. UM ONE IS AN EDUCATION CAMPAIGN AROUND COMPOSTING THAT'S GOING TO TAKE PLACE AT VERY LOW VARIOUS LOCATIONS AROUND TOWN. UM AND A LOT OF ENGAGEMENT WITH THE COMMUNITY JUST EDUCATE PEOPLE ON THE IMPORTANCE OF COMPOSTING AND THE AVAILABILITY HERE IN NEW ALBANY, UM SO THAT ONE WAS APPROVED FAVORABLY. AND THEN THE SECOND PRESENTATION THAT WE LISTEN TO WAS, UM, IN THE PARENT PICKUP LINE AND AROUND THE SCHOOL CAMPUS, I KNOW, IDLING CAMPAIGN. UM THEY SAID A LOT OF PARENTS WHEN THEY'RE WAITING TO PICK UP THEIR KIDS JUST SIT IN THEIR CAR FOR, YOU KNOW, HALF HOUR 45 MINUTES WITH THE CAR ON IDLING. UM SO AND IN THE STUDENT PARKING LOT, KIDS GO OUT THERE AT LUNCH. DURING THEIR CARS ON LET THEM IDLE. SO THEIR CAMPAIGN IS CENTERED AROUND SCHOOL CAMPUS . BOTH STUDENTS AND PARENTS TO TRY TO GET THEM TO NOT IDLE. VERY LOW COST ON ON THAT ONE.
BUT I THINK YOU CAN HAVE A GREAT IMPACT. SO IT WAS KIND OF EXCITING. THOSE ARE FIRST TO OFFICIAL PRESENTATIONS. THEY WERE BOTH MET FAVORABLY. UM WE TALKED ABOUT THE INVASIVE SPECIES TRAINING PROGRAM. UH THE HOUSEHOLD HAZARDOUS WASTE RECAP. I KNOW. WE MENTIONED THIS LAST COUNCIL MEETING. WE ESTIMATE THERE ARE ABOUT 200 CARS. THE PARTICIPATED AND APPROXIMATELY
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3000 CANS OF PAINT. WERE COLLECTED AT THE EVENT. SO HIGHLY SUCCESSFUL FOR OUR FIRST HAZARDOUS WASTE EVENT, AND THOSE WERE THE TWO NUMBERS WE HAVE SPECIFICALLY, I THINK WE'RE STILL ADRIAN'S HIDING OVER THERE . WE'RE STILL WAITING ON A COMPLETE FULL BREAKDOWN OF MATERIALS COLLECTED, BUT THOSE WERE THE HIGH LEVEL ONES THAT THEY SHARED WITH US INITIALLY, SO UM, MUCH LIKE OUR INITIALLY WASTE DRIVE LAST YEAR AND THIS YEAR VERY WELL RECEIVED. A LOT OF FOLKS TOOK ADVANTAGE OF IT. UM, AND THOSE WERE. THOSE WERE ACTUALLY THE MAIN ACROSS HAVE THE MEANS SO, UM, WILL BE. I DON'T KNOW. ARE WE STILL EXPECTING ANY MORE STUDENTS, ADRIAN, OR AS AS THE DEADLINE EXPIRED DEADLINE HAS EXPIRED. AND SO THOSE ARE THE TWO APPLICANTS WE'VE RECEIVED. SO, YEAH, SO THOSE WERE THE TWO THAT WILL MOVE FORWARD WITH AND UH HUH. IT WAS A GOOD I MEAN, THOSE ARE TWO APPLICATIONS AND THEY WERE BOTH VERY WELL PUT TOGETHER AND FIND OUT SO IT'S EXCITING TO SEE STUDENTS GET INVOLVED IN THE SAME BUILDING. OKAY? CAN I MAKE ONE COMMENT ABOUT THE HAZARDOUS WASTE TRACK, WHICH RIGHT HERE SO SUCCESSFUL? I WASN'T ABLE TO MAKE IT BECAUSE I WENT TO THE HIGHEST STATE GAME, WHICH WAS A NEW KICK OFF. AND THERE'S PROBABLY SEVERAL PEOPLE THAT BECAUSE THERE WAS A NEW KICK OFF AND THAT ONE FROM 8 TO 12 THAT MAY HAVE BEEN NOT BEEN ABLE TO MAKE IT. YEAH THAT'S YOU'RE PROBABLY RIGHT ABOUT THAT. UM WE DO HAVE TO SCHEDULE THESE THINGS VERY FAR IN ADVANCE JUST TO GET IT ON THE PROVIDER'S CALENDAR. I DON'T THINK THAT THE GAME TIMES ALWAYS ARE ANNOUNCED THAT EARLY, SO YOU HAVE TO JUST WORK THROUGH. YEAH, APPRECIATE IT. WE'LL CHECK YOUR SCHEDULE NEXT YEAR. CHIP I KNOW I WAS VERY DISAPPOINTED IN ALL SERIOUSNESS, THOUGH. I THINK NEXT YEAR NOW THAT WE'RE KIND OF OUT IN FRONT OF IT, WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO TIE IT INTO THE E WASTE DRIVE. I THINK WE HAVE THE CAPACITY OF THE SERVICE CENTER TO KIND OF ARBOR DANG AND, YOU KNOW, PUT THAT IN WITH THAT SO PEOPLE CAN BRING ANYTHING ANYWAYS, THEIR HAZARDS WAYS. YEAH. SO THAT IS OUR GOAL AND AGAIN. AVAILABILITY WILL BE THE KEY BECAUSE AROUND EARTH DAY A LOT OF FOLKS TRY TO DO THE SAME THING. BUT WE ARE GOING TO TRY TO COORDINATE THEM TOGETHER. AND ACTUALLY FINAL THING. THE NEW NEW ALBANY COMMUNITY FOUNDATION HAS ENGAGED GROUP BECAUSE ONE OF THEIR PILLARS AS WELL AS SUSTAINABILITY. UH IT'S CALLED BLUESTONE ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTING GROUP, AND THEY HAVE INVITED A BUNCH OF THE STAKEHOLDERS OUT IN THE BUSINESS PART THEY'RE INVITING SUSTAINABILITY LIAISONS. UM TO KIND OF GET A COMPREHENSIVE VIEW OF BEST PRACTICES THAT WE COULD IMPLEMENT HERE IN NEW ALBANY. SO THE CITY IS ACTUALLY GONNA TAKE PART IN THAT THEY'RE GOING TO REACH OUT AND SEE WHAT STEPS WE'VE TAKEN SO FAR AND THEN KIND OF GIVE US RECOMMENDATIONS ON THINGS WE CAN DO IN THE FUTURE. AH THE REASON I'M MENTIONING THAT THERE MAY BE AS OF NOW, I THINK THE COMMUNITY FOUNDATION IS HANDLING THE COST OF THE BASICALLY THE ASSESSMENT AND THE FEE. THEY MAY HAVE AN ASKED AT SOME POINT THAT I THINK WE COULD CARVE OUT SOME MONEY FROM THE SUSTAINABILITY BUDGET TO HELP WITH THAT, BECAUSE IT IS GOING TO BE THERE COULD BE BEST PRACTICES THAT WE COULD USE ON THE CITY LEVEL. BUT I THINK WE'RE IN WAIT AND SEE WHAT THEY ACTUALLY COME BACK WITH. I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT ON. IT HASN'T HAPPENED YET. THERE HAS BEEN NO ASK YET. ALRIGHT ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS ON THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY REPORT? UPDATE FROM THE IDEA IMPLEMENTATION PANEL SO WE HAD NO MEETING BUT WE DID HAVE OUR DIWALI FESTIVAL, WHICH WAS REMARKABLE. AH I THINK WE ESTIMATED ABOUT 700 PEOPLE ATTENDED. OUR STAFF WAS AMAZING. THEY DID. A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF WORK IS ALWAYS I SEE A LOT OF OUR STAFF. THAT'S HERE NOW ATTENDING THESE EVENTS, AND I REALLY WANT TO THANK THEM. THEY REALLY PUT A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT INTO THESE THINGS. UM WE FELT LIKE A SOLD OUT CROWD, BUT NOT IN A BAD WAY THAT FELT LIKE, UM IT FELT REALLY GOOD. I MEAN, THE TERMS WAS FULL AT ALL TIMES THE WEATHER. WE WERE FORTUNATE WITH THE WEATHER, SO A LOT OF PEOPLE MIXED AND MINGLED OUTSIDE OF THE TENTS OVER BY THE LITTLE CAFE TABLES AND THE FOOD TRUCKS. WHEN WE WERE THERE AT THE BEGINNING, THERE WAS A DECENT CROWD. BY THE END. CERTAINLY THERE WAS A VERY SIGNIFICANT CROWD. THE DANCING WAS WONDERFUL . I LOVED THE VIDEO THAT JOSH DID FOR US. WE RECEIVED AND TRUE SEEN MANY, MANY, MANY. THANK YOU . EMAILS ABOUT HOW MUCH IT MEANT TO PEOPLE TO BE RECOGNIZED AND HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SHOWCASE. THEIR HERITAGE HERE IN THE COMMUNITY, SO, UM, YEAH. I JUST[00:30:04]
THINK IT WAS REALLY FABULOUS OF THAT. I THOUGHT IT WAS A LITTLE BIT INTERESTING. IT SEEMED LIKE WE PICKED UP A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO WERE MAYBE JUST OUT FOR A WALK BECAUSE IT WAS OVER AT ROSE RUN VERSUS WHEN WE DO SOMETHING AT THE AMPHITHEATER. UM, AND SO I THOUGHT THAT WAS KIND OF INTERESTING. PEOPLE JUST WALKING BY STOPPING ME GOING. HEY WHAT'S GOING ON OVER THERE, AND THEN THEY GO OVER TO CHECK IT OUT. SO I THINK IT WAS A GOOD LEARNING OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO SO I WAS VERY PLEASED WITH HOW THAT WENT. IT WAS A GREAT EVENT AGAIN, THANKS TO THE STAFF FOR ALL THE HARD WORK INTO TWO JOB FOR THE FIREWORKS. THOSE WERE REAL LEGIT. HMM. SO I GUESS THE ONLY COMMENT WITH THAT IS IF WE COULD EDUCATE THE COMMUNITY AS BEST WE CAN. THE FIREWORKS WILL BE INVOLVED IN THE WALLY CELEBRATIONS. IT WAS I GET. THERE WAS SOME. YEAH FEEDBACK PROVIDED THAT PEOPLE DIDN'T REALIZE THEY WERE GOING TO BE FIREWORKS. BUT I DID GO BACK AND LITERALLY EVERY SINGLE POST INCLUDED THAT COMMENT. I GET THAT THERE ARE PETS THAT HAVE ISSUES WITH THAT, AND WE NEED TO DO AS MUCH WE CAN TO MAKE SURE WE AND I'M NOT SURE THAT WE DON'T DO IT. IT'S JUST ME. FIREWORKS IN NOVEMBER IS A NOVEL THINGS RIGHT, RIGHT? ALRIGHT SO ANY ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE IDEA OF IMPLEMENTATION PANEL ALRIGHT CEMETERY RESTORATION ADVISORY BOARD MEETING MEETING THE PUBLIC RECORDS, COMMISSION, CORRESPONDENCE OR COMMUNICATION RECEIVES THE LAST MEETING THAT A MEMBER OF COUNCIL LIKE TO PROVIDE NOTHING. SECOND READING[9. SECOND READING OF ORDINANCES AND PUBLIC HEARING]
ORDINANCES AND PUBLIC HEARING ORDINANCE. 0102 2023 IN ORDER TO MAKE APPROPRIATIONS FOR CURRENT EXPENSES AND OTHER EXPENDITURES OF CITIZEN ROBBERY STATE OF OHIO DURING THE FISCAL YEAR ENDING DECEMBER 31 2024 STARTS WITH THE SECONDARY BUDGET PERSON PRESENTATION AT THE END OF THIS MEETING STAFF ASKED THE TABLE THIS TO DECEMBER 5TH. FOR CONSIDERATION ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING YOUR QUESTION TABLE THE ORGANS, THEN I MOVE THAT WE TABLE ORDINANCE 0102 2023 AT THE REQUEST OF STAFF UNTIL OUR MEETING ON DECEMBER 5TH. SECOND SHOT. MAYOR SPAULDING MEMBER SHELVES. YES BRISK. YES YES, YES , YES. YES. SUPPOSED TO TABLE ORDINANCE 102 2023 TO THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING MAYOR. I'M A LITTLE SAD THAT WE DIDN'T GET TO SPEND THE TIME TO TALK ABOUT THAT WHILE COLLEAGUES HERE, THOUGH, SO SHE DOESN'T HAVE LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT DISCUSSION. MHM DOESN'T HAVE PAPER AND PENS. YEAH I CAN SHARE YEAH. AND THAT TAKES US TO ORDINANCE 0103 2023 AN ORDINANCE TO APPROVE THE PHASE ONE FINAL PLOT AND ACCEPTANCE OF RIGHT OF WAY. DEDICATION FOR BRISKET PARKWAY AS REQUESTED BY THE CITY OF NEW ORLEANS. MR MAN. THANK YOU. SO THIS IS FOR THE FIRST PHASE OF A NEW 1.2, MILE LONG PUBLIC STREETS WITHIN THE LOOKING COUNTY PORTION OF THE NEW ALBANY INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK. SO THIS RUNS FROM THE HORIZON COURT CALLED A SACK ON THE WEST SIDE HERE AND THEN INTERSECTS WITH HARRISON ROAD AND THEN ULTIMATELY TERMINATES AT CLOVER VALLEY ROAD HERE. SO PHASED. ONE IS BETWEEN HORIZON COURT AND HARRISON ROAD TO THE EAST. IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN A HALF MILE LONG AND CONSISTS OF ABOUT 4.1 ACRES. THERE'S NO RESERVES BEING CLATTERED OR LOTS CREATED. THIS IS ONLY FOR THE RIGHT OF WAY AND UTILITY EASEMENTS NECESSARY FOR THE PUBLIC STREETS, AND THE STREET PROVIDES INCREASED CONNECTIVITY WITHIN THE BUSINESS PARK AND IS CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY STRATEGIC PLAN. STREET STANDARDS AND RECOMMENDATIONS AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEWED AND RECOMMENDED APPROVAL DURING THEIR MEETING LAST MONTH. ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS TO STAFF REGARDING THE ORDINANCE? THEN WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING WHERE ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC BACK TO SPEAK REGARDING ORDINANCE 0102 OR 103 2023. NO PUBLIC COMMENT WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I WOULDN'T MOVE FOR THE ADOPTION OF ORDINANCE 0103 2023. SECOND WHERE? SPOTTING YES. KISS COUNCIL MEMBER SHELL. YES FELLOWS? YES COUNCIL MEMBER DEREK? YES, BREAST. YES I HAVE SIX. YES VOTES TO ADOPT ORDINANCE 103 2023. ALL RIGHT NOW LET'S DO THE SOUL UMBRIAN BECAUSE THE FIRST TIME WAS NOT QUITE AS FUN OR DOES 0104 2023.NORTHERN'S TO APPROVE PHASE TWO FINAL PLATINUM ACCEPTANCE OF RIGHT AWAY DEDICATION FOR BRISCOE PARKWAY AS REQUESTED BY THE CITY OF NEW ORLEANS, MR MAYOR. THANK YOU. SO THIS IS FOR THE SAME IMPORTANT CONNECTION BETWEEN HORIZON COURT THAT WILL BE THE HOME TO FUTURE BEAUTIFUL STREETS BETWEEN HORIZON COURTS AND CLOVER VALLEY TO THE EAST. AH THIS IS FOR PHASE TWO THAT
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RUNS BETWEEN HARRISON WROTE TO THE WEST AND CLOVER VALLEY TO THE EAST. THIS ALSO CONSISTS OF JUST OVER A HALF MILE IN LENGTH AND IS ABOUT 4.2 ACRES IN SIZE. THIS ALSO PROVIDES INCREASED CONNECTIVITY, WHICH IS THE KEY RECOMMENDATION FROM THE STRATEGIC PLAN WILL PROVIDE INCREASED VEHICULAR MOVEMENT AND EFFICIENCY THROUGHOUT THE INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK HERE , AND IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE WITH THE CITY STRATEGIC PLANS, RECOMMENDATIONS AND AGAIN THE PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEWED AND MADE A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION DURING THEIR MEETING LAST MONTH.ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF REGARDING THE ORDINANCE? WHAT THE ONLY QUESTION IS.
WHAT'S THE TIMELINE? TO DO THIS. BOTH PHASES. PHASE ONE WILL BE UNDER CONTROL. EXCUSE ME. PHASE TWO WILL ACTUALLY BE BUILT BEFORE PHASE ONE AND PHASE TWO WILL BE UNDER CONSTRUCTION 2024.
IT'S PROBABLY ABOUT A 9 TO 12 MONTH CONSTRUCTION HORIZON AND THEN, UM, PHASE ONE WILL BEGIN IN 20 EARLY 2025. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT ANY DISTRIBUTIONS OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC LIKE TO SPEAK REGARDING ORDINANCE 01 OF 4 2023. MARRIED BY THE MAYA LIKE TO SEE HOW YOU FAIR ENOUGH. DON'T WORRY, WE WILL WRIGGLE YOU SHORTLY. UH ANY ADDITIONAL PUBLIC COMMENT CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I WOULD MOVE FOR THE ADOPTION OF ORDINANCE 104 2023 2ND. SPOTTING YES. BREASTS? YES DEREK? YES FELLAS? YES YES, YES, SHELL. YES YES VOTES COULD HAVE ORDINANCE ONE OF 4 2023. WELL, CONGRATULATIONS TO OUR GOOD FRIEND COLLEEN BRISCOE, WHICH IS JUST A PROPOSED THAT SHE'S HERE, YOU KNOW, DURING BUDGET SEASON AFTER 26 YEARS OF SERVICE TO THIS COMMUNITY, AND ALWAYS ONE WITH A SHARP PENCIL TO MAKE SURE THAT THE FINANCES ARE IN GOOD ORDER. UM, YOU KNOW, COLLEEN STARTED HER CAREER BACK WHEN WE HAD SUPER CONTESTED ELECTIONS IN 1995 WHEN SHE WAS FIRST ELECTED MAYOR. UM THAT YOU KNOW AGAIN. WE JUST WENT THROUGH AN ELECTION CYCLE WAS INTERESTING, BUT BACK IN THOSE DAYS IT WAS FULL, FULL BODY CONTACT SPORT. UM AND SHE AND SHE TOOK THE YOU KNOW THE BULL BY THE HORNS AS WE KNOW SHE WOULD AND WON THAT ELECTION AND REALLY PUT THIS VILLAGE AT THE TIME ON A GREAT PATH FORWARD. AND COLLEEN ALWAYS HAD AN EYE TO THE FUTURE AT EVERY STEP OF THE WAY, AND YOU KNOW, ALL OF US DESERVE SOME CREDIT, TOO, TO SOME DEGREE FOR THE ECONOMIC SUCCESS OF THIS COMMUNITY, BUT COLLEEN WAS THERE FROM THE BEGINNING, AND I THINK THIS IS JUST A GREAT WAY TO HONOR HER AS A LONG STANDING MEMBER OF COUNCIL AND SOMEONE WHO WE CAN ALWAYS LOOK BACK AS BEING ONE OF THE GREAT LEADERS OF NEW ALBANY.
SO CALL IN. WE GOT YOU TWO OF THESE BECAUSE I KNOW THAT YOU WANT TO TAKE ONE OF THESE BACK TO COLORADO TO AH, OH, YEAH. SURE OKAY. JET POUNDS. TONIGHT. OKAY? PLEASE PLEASE. MM YEAH, ALRIGHT. SO I JUST DON'T WANT TO MAKE THIS MEETING ANY LONGER. UM BUT I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING MY NAME TO BE PART OF THIS SUCCESS OF NEW ALBANY. AND WHAT THANK YOU ALL FOR CONTINUING SUCCESS OF NEW ALBANY. I ALSO WANTED TO TELL YOU IT'S PARTICULARLY SWEET BECAUSE OUR SON AND HIS WIFE ON A MY HUSBAND AND MY GRANDCHILDREN ALONE DROP AND DIEGO AND MY SON CONNOR ALL HERE TO SEE THIS HAPPEN. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR TODAY. YEAH YOU CAN COME WITH YOU, PLEASE. ALRIGHT YOUR RESERVATIONS ARE STILL GOING TO HUDSON. RUN FAST.
THANK YOU, COLLEEN. BOB GOOD TO SEE YOU, SIR CONNOR. THANKS GUYS . APPRECIATE HAPPY HOLIDAYS.
YEAH RIGHT? AND THAT TAKES US TO INTRODUCTION AND FIRST READING WAR DANCES. WE HAVE NONE ON
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TONIGHT'S AGENDA. RESOLUTIONS OF PUBLIC HEARING RESOLUTION ARE 49 2023, A RESOLUTION TO AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A REAL ESTATE PURCHASE AGREEMENT AND ALSO SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS NECESSARY FOR THE PURCHASE OF APPROXIMATELY 0.12 PLUS OR MINUS ACRES, COMMONLY KNOWN AS A[00:40:04]
PORTION OF FRANKLIN COUNTY PARCEL NUMBER. 222-0005 FROM. INNOVATE MORTGAGE REAL ESTATE LLC, JOE THANK YOU, MAYOR. THIS PARCEL IS LOCATED PERPENDICULAR TO THE CURRENT STUB OF SECOND STREET. UM WHICH IS LOCATED DIRECTLY BEHIND EAGLES PIZZA. IT ACTUALLY ENABLES US TO EXTEND SECOND STREET TO A FUTURE ROAD THAT WOULD RUN EAST TO WEST IN THE GENERAL PROXIMITY OF THE BUT WE FORMALLY REFERRED TO AS THE SHOCKEY BUILDINGS THAT ARE FRONTING ON STATE ROUTE 65. THIS PROPERTY WOULD ENABLE US TO ALSO EXTEND A FUTURE PUBLIC ALLEY AND BUILD OUT THE GRID AND THE HISTORIC VILLAGE CENTER, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN ON, UM, COUNCILS WISH LIST FOR MANY YEARS. UM THE APPRAISED VALUE OF THE PROPERTY IN THIS AREA IS ABOUT A BILLION DOLLARS. SO THE.PROPORTIONATE COST RELATIVE TO THE APPRAISED VALUE IS $125,000. ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF REGARDING THE RESOLUTION? OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. WOULD ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC LIKE TO SPEAK REGARDING RESOLUTION ARE 49 2023? NO COMMENTS WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND AGAIN. I JUST APPRECIATE THE HARD WORK OF STAFF AND THE LANDOWNERS IN THIS AREA TO HELP THE CITY, YOU KNOW, COMPLETE THIS VISION OF A ROAD NETWORK IN THAT AREA. UM I THINK WE ANTICIPATE SOME FUTURE DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE OLD VILLAGE CENTER. UM AND GETTING THAT ROAD NETWORK IN AHEAD OF TIME IS SUPER IMPORTANT TO MAKE SURE THAT DEVELOPMENT HAPPENS AT THE APPROPRIATE PACE ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS ON THE RESOLUTION? ALRIGHT THEN I WOULD MOVE TO THE ADOPTION OF RESOLUTION ARE 49 2023. SECOND. SPOTTING YES, YES, YES, YES, FELLOWS. YES YES, YES! YES! FIRST RESOLUTION ARE 49 2023. RESOLUTION ARE 50 2023, A RESOLUTION APPROVING AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION OF THE COMMUNITY REINVESTMENT AREA AGREEMENT AND MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING WITH THE S N A. L T S. TOO SORRY LLC FOR HIS SITE NUMBER THREE AND MAKING RELATED AUTHORIZATIONS.
SARAH I THINK YOU JUST DO THAT ON PURPOSE RIGHT AS MANY WORDS IN THERE AS POSSIBLE. TRIP ME UP . YEAH THERE'S A LOT OF WORDS HERE TOO. OKAY THANK YOU. UM THIS RESOLUTION AUTHORIZES THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A COMMUNITY REINVESTMENT AREA AGREEMENT WITH Q T S N A ELSE T X TO L. L C. THE AGREEMENT PROVIDES FOR 100% REAL PROPERTY TAX ABATEMENT FOR 15 YEARS. Q T S BASED IN OVERLAND PARK, KANSAS , IS A PROVIDER OF DATA CENTER SOLUTIONS SPENDING MORE THAN 9 MILLION SQUARE FEET OF MEGA SCALE DATA CENTER SPACE IN NORTH AMERICA AND EUROPE. THE PROJECT INCLUDES THE CONSTRUCTION OF THREE DATA CENTERS TOTALLY OVER 1 MILLION SQUARE FEET AND 78 PLUS OR MINUS ACRES THEY EXPECTED PROJECT INVESTMENT IS OVER $1 BILLION AS YOU MAY RECALL, Q. T S WAS HERE PREVIOUSLY FOR TO SEE OUR AGREEMENTS. SO UM, WE'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE COMPANY. THAT CONSTRUCTION OF THE PROJECT IS EXPECTED TO TAKE PLACE BY DECEMBER. 2033 THE COMPANIES HE WANTS TO HAVE THEIR INCENTIVE PACKAGE IN ORDER IN ORDER SO THAT THEY MAY START SOONER IF POSSIBLE. THE BENCHMARKS FOR COMPLIANCE WILL BE MEASURED, ACCORDING TO THE REVENUE GENERATION PERSON PER SQUARE FOOT FOR ENGLAND AS ESTABLISHED FOR THIS SPECIFIC BUILDING TYPE AND PREVIOUSLY APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL, MR JOHN WOODCOCK, DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT FROM Q T S IS IN THE AUDIENCE WITH US TODAY. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. AND THIS RESOLUTION MAY BE ADOPTED TODAY. SARAH JUST TO CLARIFY. IT IS DECEMBER 2023, RIGHT? NO IT IS 30 30 30 33. WHAT IS THE REASON FOR THE LONG LEAD TIME? THE COMPANY OBVIOUSLY HAS OTHER PROJECTS THAT THEY HAVE IN THE COMMUNITY. AND THERE'S ALSO, UM I THINK OPPORTUNITY THAT IT WILL START SOONER, BUT THEY WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAD OTHER BASES COVERED. IN CASE OF IT HAD TO GO THAT FAR OUT. AND THIS IS THE THIRD SAY THIRD, RIGHT? JUST A QUICK QUESTION. FOR MY OWN KNOWLEDGE, THE FORMULA THAT WE USE FOR BENCHMARKS. I KNOW WE ALWAYS USE THE YOU KNOW, WAREHOUSE SPACE VERSUS OFFICE SPACE, AND WE'VE GOT THAT FORMULA. IS THAT THE SAME ONE THAT WE APPLY TO THIS BECAUSE IT SEEMS DIFFERENT TO ME. NO THIS
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IS THE SAME. UH THIS IS THE SAME FORMULA THAT WE USE FOR ALL DATA CENTERS, OKAY? WHICH IS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE'VE USED WITH THE OTHER. OKAY? YES SO THERE'S A FORMULA IF YOU REMEMBER FOR EACH TYPE OF INDUSTRY CLUSTER, SO WE HAVE A CLASS A OFFICE FORMULA. WE HAVE A RESEARCH AND PRODUCTION FORMULA. WE HAVE A DISTRIBUTION MANUFACTURING FORMULA, AND WE HAVE A DATA CENTER FORMULA. AND SO THE REASON WHY THERE'S DIFFERENT FORMULAS FOR DIFFERENT INDUSTRIES IS BECAUSE HOW PEOPLE USE THAT SPACE IS DIFFERENT. AND SO THIS IS THE SAME DATA CENTER FORMULA THAT WE'VE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED, BUT IT IS DIFFERENT FROM THE OTHER CLUSTER FORMULAS THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE. AND JUST AS WE'RE REMINDED OF THE THIRD SIDE IS LOCATED WHERE? 6140 BABBITT ROAD, OKAY. ALRIGHT, ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. AH MR WOODCOCK. I'D HATE TO NOT HAVE YOU MAKE AN INTRODUCTION, SO PLEASE COME UP TO THE PODIUM AND SAY HELLO AND TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOURSELF BY MY NAME IS JOHN WOODCOCK CONWAY, DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT WITH Q T S, UM APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S HELPED THAT WE WERE EXCITED TO BE HERE AND WE JUST WANT TO THANK THE COUNSELING HOURS AND THE CITY FOR MORE CONTINUED PARTNERSHIP HERE. YOU'LL FIT RIGHT IN AS A FORMER NAVY GUY, BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE EVERY DATA CENTER IN TOWN THIS RUN BY, YOU KNOW YES, SOMEONE THAT MHM EITHER FLOATED OR WAS SIMMERING. UM BUT AGAIN APPRECIATE YOU COMING TONIGHT AND LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU AND YOUR TEAM. AS THIS DEVELOPS EXCITING TO HAVE THIS ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITY IN OUR COMMUNITY. THANKS APPRECIATE ONCE THAT ALRIGHT. I'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE FROM THE ADOPTION THEN OF RESOLUTION ARE 50 2023.SECOND. COUNCIL MEMBER. DIRECT, CORRECT? YES, THANK YOU. ALRIGHT THERE, SPALDING. YES YES. BRISK YES. COUNCIL MEMBER FELLOWS? YES YES. COUNCIL MEMBER SHELL? YES YES. POSTED UP RESOLUTION ARE 50 2023 AND RESOLUTION ART 51 2023 ROAD SOLUTION APPROVING AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION AND BECAME ME REINVESTMENT AREA AGREEMENT AND MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING WITH TWO T S N A L T X TO L. L. C FOR ITS SITE NUMBER FOUR AND MAKING RELATED AUTHORIZATIONS. SURE. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THIS RESOLUTION AUTHORIZES THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A COMMUNITY REINVESTMENT AREA AGREEMENT WITH Q T S N A L T X TWO LLC. THE AGREEMENT PROVIDES FOR 100% REAL PROPERTY TAX ABATEMENT FOR 15 YEARS AGAIN . Q. T S BASED IN OVERLAND PARK, TEXAS, KANSAS IS A PROVIDER OF DATA CENTER SOLUTIONS, UM IN NORTH AMERICA AND EUROPE. THE PROJECT INCLUDES THE CONSTRUCTION OF FIVE DATA CENTERS TOTALLING OVER 2 MILLION SQUARE FEET ON 100. IN 62 PLUS OR MINUS ACRES THEY EXPECTED PROJECT INVESTMENT IS OVER $1.9 BILLION AGAIN. THE CONSTRUCTION OF THIS PROJECT WILL BEGIN BY DECEMBER. 20. DECEMBER. 2033 THE BENCHMARK FOR COMPLIANCE IS AGAIN WILL BE BASED ON THE REVENUE GENERATION PER SQUARE FOOT. UM MODEL FOR DATA CENTERS.
UM AGAIN. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. HMM. THAT SOUNDS FAMILIAR. YEAH THIS IS THE LAST ONE. ANY QUESTIONS FROM FROM COUNCIL TO STAFF REGARDING RESOLUTION ARE 51. RIGHT HERE.
NO QUESTIONS. I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ANYONE THROUGH THE PUBLIC LIKE TO SPEAK REGARDING RESOLUTION ARE 51 2023. HEARING NO PUBLIC COMMENT WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARINGS THEIR EMOTION ON THE RESOLUTION. I'M HERE FOR THE ADOPTION OF RESOLUTION. 51 2023 2ND. COUNCIL MEMBER KISSED. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER SHELLS? YES COUNCIL MEMBER FELLOWS MEMBER DARK? YES RISK? YES, YES, YES. FIRST DRAFT RESOLUTION ARE 51 2023 AND RESOLUTION ARE 50 TO 2023 A RESOLUTION APPROVING AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION OF THE COMMUNITY REINVESTMENT AREA AGREEMENT AND MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDINGS FOR EDGED COLUMBUS LLC AND MAKING RELATED AUTHORIZATIONS. THANK YOU. THIS RESOLUTION AUTHORIZES THE CITY MANAGER TO EXIT COMMUTE EXECUTED COMMUNITY REINVESTMENT AREA AGREEMENT WITH EDGED COLUMBUS LLC. THE AGREEMENT PROVIDES FOR 100% REAL PROPERTY
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TAX ABATEMENT FOR 15 YEARS. EDGED ENERGY BASED IN DARIEN, CONNECTICUT, IS A MODULAR DATA CENTER PROVIDER THAT FOCUSES ON RENEWABLE ENERGY AND SUSTAINABILITY. EDGE DATA CENTERS ARE DESIGNED TO USE ZERO WATER FOR COOLING AND USE ADVANCED ELECTRICAL SYSTEMS TO LOWER COSTS AND MINIMIZE THE ENVIRONMENTAL FOOTPRINT. HAS COMPLETED DATA CENTER PROJECTS IN MADRID, BARCELONA, LISBON AND OTHER CITIES IN THE UNITED STATES. THE PROJECT INCLUDES THE CONSTRUCTION OF ONE DATA CENTER TOTALING 210,000 SQUARE FEET AND 14.75 PLUS OR MINOR MINUS ACRES.THEY EXPECTED PROJECT INVESTMENT IS APPROXIMATELY 250 MILLION. THE PROJECT IS EXPECTED TO BEGIN IN JANUARY. 2024 AND COMPLETED BY MARCH 2025. THE BENCHMARKS FOR COMPLIANCE AGAIN WILL BE MEASURED, ACCORDING TO THE REVENUE GENERATION SQUARE FOOT. FORMULA AS ESTABLISHED FOR SPECIFIC BUILDINGS TYPES AND PREVIOUSLY APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL, MR DENVER. PARIS REGIONAL SENIOR PROGRAM MANAGER FOR EDGED IS JOINING US IN THE AUDIENCE TODAY. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IN THIS RESOLUTION MAY BE ADAPTED THIS EVENING. AH THE SAME QUESTION AS BEFORE. WHAT'S THE ADDRESS FOR THIS LOCATION? I SHOULD REMEMBER THIS PART JUST FORGOTTEN. NO, THAT'S OKAY. 6385 NEW ALBANY ROAD EAST. UM, THAT ONE UP. IS THAT EAST OF 605. THAT IS WEST.
IT'S WEST. IT'S 605. IS IT? NORTH OF THE ROAD EAST. YES. THE ADDRESS THERE, RIGHT. IT'S JUST IT'S ON. IT'S ACROSS THE STREET FROM DISCOVERED ON THE OTHER SIDE. HMM. OKAY. ALRIGHT AND THE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS TO STAFF REGARDING RESOLUTION. I JUST ZERO WATER FOR CONE. I MEAN, I KNOW HE S FOCUSED ON SUSTAINABILITY, BUT, YEAH, LIKE CURVE HERE. SPECIAL TECHNOLOGY THAT'S PROPRIETARY OR YOU WANT TO COME UP TO THE MIKE AND SAY HELLO AND COUNSEL THE THIS UNIQUE ENVIRONMENT YOU'RE OPERATING IN MIAMI IS DENVER AND THE SENIOR PROGRAM MANAGER. SO IF EVERYTHING WORKS OUT, I'LL BE THE BOOTS ON THE GROUND. SO EXCITED FOR YOU GUYS. BUT YEAH, I STOPPED HEARING COMPANY THERMAL WORKS. WE HAVE TECHNOLOGY THAT USES ZERO WATER FOR COOLING MILLION THE DATA OF THE DOTS IN AREAS. INTERESTING WHAT ARE YOU USING FOR COOLING.
IT'S NOT WATER. UH HUH. IT'S PROPRIETARY. CAN'T TELL YOU CAN SHOOT YOUR CHIP. YOU HAVE TO REMOVE YOU, COUNSEL. ALRIGHT PROPRIETARY INFORMATION OR YEAH, OKAY, BEGINNING? YEAH, GOOD.
WELL I MEAN, WE'VE WE'VE BEEN FORTUNATE TO HAVE EXPERIENCES WITH A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT DATA CENTER PROVIDERS, AND IT IS INTERESTING HOW EACH ENVIRONMENT SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT. YEAH AND, UH , WHAT TECHNOLOGY YOU KNOW, FROM FIVE YEARS AGO IS NOW MAYBE A LITTLE OBSOLETE. IT'S INTERESTING TO SEE HOW THAT INDUSTRY IS CHANGED A LOT AND FOCUSED A LOT OF STING BILITY.
BUT THIS IS EXCITING. ANY ANYTHING ELSE? YOU'D LIKE TO TELL US? I MEAN, I GUESS YOU'LL BE THE BOOTS ON THE GROUND HERE. YEAH YOU KNOW, I'LL BE BOOTS ON THE GROUND IF THE PROBLEMS OF CREDIT CARDS GOING IN MARCH OF NEXT YEAR, ALRIGHT. PRODUCT IS AH, 16 TO 18 MONTHS LONG, SO, YOU KNOW VERY EXCITED TO BE HERE. ALL RIGHT. WELL, IF YOU NEED A GOOD REALTOR, LET US KNOW. ALRIGHT ANY OTHER QUESTIONS REGARDING THE RESOLUTION, BUT JUST ONE MORE WHAT OTHER CITIES IN THE UNITED STATES, ARGUING? CURRENTLY HAVE PROJECTS IN ATLANTA. DALLAS KANSAS CITY. AH WE'RE ALSO LOOKING INTO UTAH, DENVER AND ARIZONA, OKAY? RIGHT INTERESTING . MARK MADRID, BARCELONA AND LIVES AND I'M HERE, SO I FIGURED YEAH, THAT QUESTION OF THE UNITED STATES. OKAY, THANKS. ALL RIGHT. THERE'S NO FURTHER QUESTIONS AND I WOULD MOVE FOR THE ADOPTION OF RESOLUTION ARE THE PUBLIC HEARING? I'M SORRY. PUBLIC HEARING STUFF. APOLOGIES.
YOU'RE YOU'RE WELCOME THIS SIT BACK DOWN ANYONE ADDITIONAL QUESTION. LET'S DO A PUBLIC HEARING WITH ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC LIKE TO SPEAK REGARDING RESOLUTION ARE 52 YOU KNOW, PUBLIC COMMENT WILL CLOSE. THE PUBLIC HEARING IS VERY EMOTIONAL. THE RESOLUTION MOVE FOR THE ADOPTION OF RESOLUTION ARE 50 TO 2023 2ND ONE AND SHOOT COUNCIL MEMBER BRISK. YES
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REMEMBER DEREK FELLOWS? YES. YES YES, YES, YES. VOTES TO THAT POSITION ARE 50 TO 2023.CONGRATULATIONS. SEE HERE. THAT LOOKS LIKE THE END OF OUR RESOLUTIONS. ANYONE CARE TO MAKE
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A STANDING COMMITTEE REPORT REPORTS OF REPRESENTATIVES JOANIE UPDATE FROM ORBISON, NO MEETING JOINT PARKS. UM NO MEANING? HMM. ALRIGHT ALRIGHT. ANY UPDATE FROM THE ALTERNATE PLAN LOCAL SCHOOLS JUST A QUICK UPDATE. THEY HAD A SCHOOL BOARD MEETING LAST NIGHT. UH THE HIGHLIGHT WAS THEY HONORED THEIR NATIONAL MERIT SCHOLARSHIP RECOGNITIONS. UM OUT OF 1.3 MILLION ENTRANCE WE HAD 13 COMMENDED. SCHOLARS. SEVEN NATIONAL AFRICAN AMERICAN RECOGNITION EIGHT NATIONAL HISPANIC RECOGNITION AND SEVEN NATIONAL MERIT SEMIFINALISTS. SO GOOD NUMBERS FROM THE SCHOOL. UM THEY DID A COURSE UPDATE, WHICH THEY ROLL THROUGH THE NEW COURSES. THEY'RE GOING TO ROLL OUT. IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT THE UNIVERSITY. UM THEY'RE ADDING ROBOTICS CLASSES. UH, AMERICAN SIGN LANGUAGE THEY'RE GOING TO OFFER AS PART OF THEIR GLOBAL LANGUAGE DEPARTMENT, WHICH I THINK UM AND THEN A NEW WHOLE LINE OF CLASSES . UH CALLED I T FUNDAMENTALS THAT WILL ALIGN WITH BASICALLY STREAMLINING FOLKS TO GET THE SKILLS REQUIRED FOR FOLKS LIKE INTEL IN OUR DATA CENTERS OUT IN THE BUSINESS PARK SO UM DEFINITELY THE SCHOOL BOARD HAS AN EYE ON THE FUTURE AND AS CURTAILING THEIR COURSE LOAD TO REFLECT THAT SO EXCITING STUFF. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, SIR. AND YET THERE FROM THE TOWNSHIP CHIP ATTENDED IN MY ABSENCE, SO. THEY DIDN'T DURING THE MEETING SWEAR IN THE NEW FIREMAN. SO THAT STARTED ME OFF WITH THAT SWEARING IN, AND A LOT OF THE NEW COLLEAGUES. WORKERS CAME IN TO JOIN FOR THAT WHICH WAS GOOD TO SEE. IN ADDITION TO THAT THEY HAD A CONSULTANT TO A LAND USER REVIEWS, SO THEY SPENT A GOOD PORTION OF THAT MEETING GOING OVER SOME OF THE INSIGHTS AND CONSULTANT ROCK BROUGHT TO THE TO THE BOARD. UH UM THE MAIN CONCERNS ARE PART OF THE DISCUSSION THERE WAS LOOKING AT WALNUT AND SEEING THE YOU KNOW WHAT THE POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT OF THAT WOULD BE IN THE FUTURE THAT VOICED SOME CONCERNS AND INTERESTS IN KEEPING THAT AS A RULE CORRIDOR. AND MAKING SURE THAT THE DEVELOPMENT ON WALTON PARKWAY MET THAT GOAL OF THE TOWNSHIP. ADDITION TO THAT WALNUT STREET IN WALNUT STREET, PARTLY MODERN STREETS. IN ADDITION TO THAT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT QUITE A BIT ABOUT 62 CORRIDOR IN THE DEVELOPMENT.THAT IS TO COME THERE IN THE INTEREST OF THE TOWNSHIP AND HOW THAT GETS DEVELOPED. INTEREST IT WAS INTERESTING THAT THEY THEY HAD SAID THAT THERE'S ABOUT 4000 ACRES REMAINING. UNINCORPORATED TOWNSHIP. RIGHT YEAH. GOOD PORTION OF THAT IS MADE UP BY THE METRO PARK IN THE WEXNER STATES. SO THERE'S NOT A LOT OF UNINCORPORATED ACREAGE LEFT FOR THE TOWNSHIP SO THAT THAT WAS AN INTERESTING NOTE THAT CAME UP DURING THE MEETING. WHAT ELSE DO WE TALK ABOUT? THEY ALSO IT'S THE WAY ALSO TALKED ABOUT THE POOL AND FOR 2020. THREE THEY HAD THEIR VISITS WERE UP BY 5000 VISITS OVER 2022, SO IT WAS QUITE AN INCREASE. UM, THEY'VE SEEN A. RECORD NUMBER OF NON MEMBERS COMING INTO THE POOL. UM BIG CONCERN ABOUT. AH I GUESS HOW DO THEY RAISE THAT? NON MEMBER OF BEHAVIORS, AND HE HAD A LOT OF INCIDENCES. AT THE POOL , UM, THAT WERE LOGGED BY LIFEGUARDS, SO THEY HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT HOW THEY'RE GOING TO UM, MENTION THAT INTO THE FUTURE BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE TO BE SOME OF THE BEHAVIOR AT THE POLL HAS GONE BEYOND WHAT THEY WHAT THEIR EXPECTATIONS WOULD BE. SO WE'LL LOOK INTO BETTER MANAGING THAT NEXT YEAR. AND THEN FINALLY, THEY THANK THE CITY FOR PROMOTING THEIR WREATHS PROGRAM FOR THE VETERANS THAT
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MAPLEWOOD SET SO CEMETERY SO THAT THEY THANK THE CITY FOR HELPING PROMOTE THAT AND BEING ENGAGED AND INVOLVED WITH THAT PROGRAM. AND THAT'S IT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. REPORTS OF[14. REPORTS OF CITY OFFICIALS]
CITY OFFICIALS, UM AGAIN. I JUST, UH. WANT TO GET COMPLIMENTS STAFF ON THE DIWALI EVENT. I WAS VERY WELL DONE. GOOD GROUP OF FOLKS OUT THERE THAT WE'RE SUPER EXCITED TO.KIDS PARTICIPATE IN THEIR COMMUNITY. UH, AND SHARE THEIR CULTURE WITH WITH EVERYONE IN NEW ALBANY AND FROM LANDING AREAS. HMM UM, REGRETTABLY, WE HAD A COUNCIL OR NOVEMBER 11TH VETERANS MEMORIAL EVENT. I DO WANT TO BE CAREFUL IN THE FUTURE THAT WE TRY NOT TO TIE THAT EVENT TO ANYTHING ELSE THAT VETERANS DAY WILL BE A STANDALONE EVENT, AND I THINK WE OUGHT TO THE COMMUNITY NEXT YEAR. NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS THAT WE PUT ON THE FIRST CLASS SHOWING. I GOT A FAIR AMOUNT OF FEEDBACK. REMEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY. HMM ABOUT THAT AND MADE A COMMITMENT THAT WE WILL I FELT LIKE THAT HAPPEN AGAIN. SO UM, JUST PUTTING THAT ON EVERYONE'S RADAR FOR NEXT YEAR. I WILL. BE PUTTING SOME ADDITIONAL EFFORT INTO MAKING SURE THAT THAT IS HANDLED. APPROPRIATELY. I WOULD ECHO THAT I HAD A LOT OF FEEDBACK AS WELL TO ME. UM LIKE TO AGAIN TIP MY HAT TO THE NEW ALBANY CHAMBER AND THEIR VOLUNTEERS FOR ANOTHER GREAT HOLIDAY TREE LIGHTING DON'T MAY HAVE BEEN LARGEST CROWD I THINK WE'VE SEEN THAT DIVERSITY WAS PRETTY SPECTACULAR. THE WEATHER WAS AWESOME. BUT THEY'VE REALLY DONE A GREAT JOB WITH THAT EVENT AND GOT A LOT OF POSITIVE FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY. GOOD WAY TO JUST EDGE INTO THE HOLIDAY SEASON. SO AGAIN, THANKS TO THE CHAMBER AND FOR EVERYONE'S EFFORTS IN EVERY GUARD. ANY UPDATE FROM THE CLERK. I BELIEVE I'VE GOT EVERYONE'S DELTA AWARDS RSVPS. SO THAT'S GOOD IF ANYONE STILL WANTS TO GO TO THE 411 EVENT IS HAVING TROUBLE REGISTER . LET ME KNOW THAT IS, UH, FRIDAY, DECEMBER 1ST AT THE HYATT DOWNTOWN. AH YOU HAVE RECEIVED AN EMAIL FROM OUR PROGRAM MANAGER, ABBY REGARDING THE SENIOR CONNECTIONS, EVENTS OR TWO. AND UM, I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE COUNSEL AT EITHER OR BOTH. WHATEVER YOU CAN DO, AND THAT IS THERE IS A SENIOR CONNECTIONS, HOLIDAY COOK OFF, AND THAT'S THURSDAY, DECEMBER 7, AND SHE IS LOOKING FOR QUOTE UNQUOTE CELEBRITY SHOPS. BUT THAT'S BASICALLY ANYONE WHO'S NOT A REGULAR MEMBER OF THE GROUP. TO DO EITHER CHEESE BALLS OR DEVILED EGGS AND TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT, AND THAT'S A TEND TO 11:30 A.M. ON A THURSDAY SHE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE YOU R S V. P IF YOU CAN DO EITHER OF THOSE THINGS OR JUST PARTICIPATE AND ALSO THE SENIOR CONNECTION HOLIDAY LUNCHEON, AND THAT IS FRIDAY, DECEMBER 15TH AT THE NEW ALBANY COUNTRY CLUB, AND IT'S A BUFFET LUNCH AGAIN. THOSE EMAILS SHOULD BE IN YOUR INBOX IS R. S V P TO ABBY, IF YOU CAN ATTEND, SHE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE YOU REALLY GOOD, REALLY HIGH. RESPECTED CELEBRITY HERE. I'M SURE HE'LL BE AND I HEARD YOU'RE A GOOD CHEF TO JOE. I CAN COOK ANYTHING IN THE MICROWAVE. UM AND JUST FINALLY HEADS UP. I WILL BE TRAVELING FIRST COUPLE OF DAYS OF THE WEEK AFTER THANKSGIVING, SO MINUTES WILL PROBABLY BE LATE. CHRISTINE WILL BE HERE AT YOU NEED ANYTHING TO GO HOLD ME AND ALSO GET ME ON MYSELF. BUT YEAH, I WILL BE OUT BEGINNING IN THE WEEK AFTER NEXT SEVEN. THAT'S IT. CORRECT ANY OF THESE FROM THE FINANCE DIRECTOR. NOT AT THIS MOMENT, JOE. ANY UPDATE FROM SITTING TOO QUICK ITEMS FIRST, I WOULD LIKE TO ANNOUNCE THAT OUR PICKLEBALL COMPLEX, UH, WAS AWARDED A SECOND PLACE, UM, FINISH OR SECOND PLACE AWARD BY THE OHIO PARKS AND RECREATION ASSOCIATION. AH AWARDS OF EXCELLENCE AND THIS WAS IN THE MILLION DOLLAR TO $2.5 MILLION PROJECT CATEGORY. UH SO THE BOARDS WILL BE, UM, PRESENTED ON FEBRUARY 6TH. AT THE AT THEIR ANNUAL EVENT OF, UH IN SANDUSKY. AND THEN THE SECOND ITEM THAT I HAVE. SO OUR DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT IS TRANSITIONING FROM ONE TYPE OF A PERMIT SOFTWARE TO THE UPDATED SOFTWARE THAT COUNCIL APPROVED SEVERAL YEARS AGO, AND THERE ARE A NUMBER OF UM EXPIRED FEES FROM DIFFERENT TYPES OF PROJECTS THAT HAVE EITHER BEEN CANCELED OR MAYBE SOME DUPLICATIONS. SO I ASKED JENNIFER IF SHE WOULD DO A QUICK PRESENTATION TONIGHT. AND IF
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COUNSEL IS AGREEABLE, I'D LIKE TO GET A MOTION AUTHORIZING ME TO WAIVE THE FEES. THANK YOU, JOE. SO, THE, UM THE TOTAL AMOUNT THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR, UM THE MOTION FOR THE WAIVER IS UP TO $47,857.09. I THINK THAT THE CITY MANAGER SHARED THE LIST OF THESE THAT ARE OUTSTANDING. UM, COUPLE OF THINGS THAT HAPPENED OVER THE LAST YEAR. FIRST OF ALL, WE USUALLY GO THROUGH ON A QUARTERLY BASIS, AND WE LOOK FOR DUPLICATES, ERRORS, MISTAKES. WE DIDN'T DO THAT IN 23. BECAUSE WE KEPT THINKING WE WERE TRANSITIONING. THAT NEXT MONTH TO THE SOFTWARE, AND SO IT WOULD HAPPEN. AND SO THIS THIS IS ACTUALLY THE COMBINATION OF OVER A YEAR IN AND ACTUALLY A YEAR AND A HALF OF FEES THAT HAVEN'T BEEN CLEANED UP. ALSO THERE'S SOME ON THE LIST THAT THE CITY IS STILL PURSUING. PAYMENT FOR AND SO, UM, THIS THAT'S WHY WE WOULD LIKE APPROVAL FOR UP TO THE MAXIMUM. MOST OF THEM THERE. ANYTHING FROM, YOU KNOW PERMITS THAT DIDN'T GET PICKED UP SO WE MIGHT HAVE A PLAN REVIEW CHARGE IN THE SYSTEM, BUT THE PERMIT WAS EITHER DENIED OR DIDN'T GET PICKED UP. UM THAT HAS TO BE SOMEHOW ZEROED OUT IN THE SYSTEM. AND WE DO THAT THROUGH THE CODIFIED ORDINANCES THROUGH A WAIVER FROM THE CITY MANAGER AGAIN. THOSE THINGS ARE NORMALLY DONE ON A QUARTERLY BASIS. ONE EXAMPLE THAT WE HAVE IN HERE, FOR EXAMPLE, IS THE $5000 FOR THE MARKETING MAIN ROUNDABOUT. WELL, THAT WAS A CITY PROJECT THAT HAS BEEN IN THE SYSTEM FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW, AND THESE SOME OF THESE EVEN GO BACK TO, UM 2018, SO THEY'RE JUST THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN SITTING IN THE SYSTEM THAT NEEDED TO BE CLEANED UP, AND WE'RE NOW AT THAT POINT WHERE WE'RE GOING THROUGH ALL THE ARCHIVED FEES AS WELL AND TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE WERE ALL UM, VALID. WE'VE ALREADY COLLECTED UM, A LITTLE OVER $100,000 IN FEES THAT WERE OUTSTANDING ON THE FIRST STARTED THIS PROJECT AND CONTINUE TO KIND OF GO THROUGH AND OTHER THINGS INCLUDE FEE WAIVERS THAT WE EITHER NEGOTIATE FOR ECONOMIC RELEVANT AGREEMENTS OR FEE WAIVERS FOR CERTAIN EVENTS. SOMETIMES WHEN THEY'RE PUTTING THE SYSTEM THEY'RE NOT PUT IN THE SYSTEM WITH A WAIVER THE SYSTEM FOR A WHILE, DIDN'T ALLOW US TO DO THAT, BUT WE STILL HAVE TO ACCOUNT FOR THAT PERMIT. SO YOU HAVE TO ACTUALLY PRESS THE FEET SO JUST VARYING LEVELS OF REASONS. WHY WHY WE NEED TO CLEAN IT UP AND I'M JUST FELT MORE COMFORTABLE HAVING EMOTION FOR COUNCIL AND PUTTING THIS ON THE RECORD AS TO WHY WE WERE DOING IT. JUST A QUESTION WITH THE NEW SOFTWARE WOODS. IT'S GOING TO BE AN ANNUAL EVENT TO CLEAN UP OR WILL THE NEW SOFTWARE ENABLE YOU TO KEEP UP TO DATE AND NOT HAVE TO WAIVE FEES GOING FORWARD? YEAH, I THINK THAT WE'RE STILL ALWAYS GOING TO HAVE, UM, FEES AT THE END OF EVERY QUARTER THAT WE HAVE TO CLEAN UP. UM BUT I THINK THE BIGGER PROBLEM THAT WE WANT TO SIT DOWN AND TALK ABOUT IS THE FACT THAT WHEN WE HAVE AN APPLICATION, THE APPLICANT FOR EXAMPLE, COMMERCIAL PLAN REVIEW IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF A LOT OF THESE ARE COMMERCIAL PLANE REVIEW FEES WE HAVE OUTSIDE CONSULTANTS AND SO THAT IS PASSED THROUGH TO THE CUSTOMER. SO IF YOU HAVE SOMEBODY SUBMITTED SET OF PLANS AND THEY PAY THEIR FEE FOR THEIR PERMIT. WHEN THEY PICK UP THEIR PLANS.THAT'S WHEN THEY TYPICALLY WITH THEIR APPROVAL. THAT'S WHEN THEY TYPICALLY PAY THEIR FEES IN ORDER TO GET THEIR PLANS. WELL IF THEY ABANDON THE PROJECT, OR IT WAS DENIED, OR THEY DON'T DO THE PROJECT ANYMORE THAN THERE'S NOT REALLY A MECHANISM TO COLLECT THEM, AND THAT'S TYPICALLY WHAT WE'RE CLEANING UP , AND I DON'T THINK THE SYSTEM IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO HELP US WITH THAT, HOWEVER. WHAT I DO THINK THE SYSTEM WILL ENABLE US TO DO IS THAT THERE IS NOW A BUTTON AND SO THE END USER ACTUALLY WILL BE UNABLE TO RECEIVE COMMENTS ABOUT THEIR PROJECT. EVEN TO FIND OUT IF IT'S BEEN DENIED OR APPROVED UNTIL THE FEES HAVE BEEN PAID, SO I THINK WE'LL BE ABLE TO CUT DOWN ON THE AMOUNT OF THESE BUT WILL STILL ALWAYS HAVE THEM.
OKAY. SOUNDS GOOD. THANKS. ALRIGHT ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS REGARDING THE FEE WAIVER? THEN I WOULD MOVE THAT WE AUTHORIZED THE CITY MANAGER. TO CONSIDER, AND WE FEES UP TO INCLUDING $47,857.92. SECOND. BUILDING YES , RISK NUMBER. DO IT, FELLAS. YES YES. COUNCIL MEMBER SHELL? YES YES VOTES TO PASS THE MOTION MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL I HAVE ANY UPDATE FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY. NO UPDATE ALRIGHT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC LIKE TO ADDRESS COUNCIL REGARDING MATTER THAT WE DISCUSSED ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA. CALL FOR COUNCIL COMMENT AND
[17. EXECUTIVE SESSION]
ADDITIONAL COUNSEL COMMENT. TEXAS TO EXIT EXECUTIVE SESSION. DOES ANYONE BELIEVE? YEAH DON'T HIT ME EVERYBODY, BUT I ACTUALLY DO THINK THAT WE SHOULD HAVE THAT EXECUTIVE SESSION. ENOUGH[01:10:03]
THEN I MOVE THAT WE ADJOURNED TO EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO A HIGHER BASE CODE. 1 21 22 G ONE FOR DISCUSSION REGARDING APPOINTMENT EMPLOYMENT, DISMISSAL THIS MOTION TO MOTION OR COMPENSATION OF PUBLIC OFFICIALS. SECOND WITH AN INTENT TO TAKE ACTION AFTERWARDS. NO NEED TO TAKE ACTION. NO NEED, OKAY? SORRY. GO AHEAD. THAT'S COUNSELOR. PROTEST ON SECOND.THANK YOU, BALDING COUNCIL MEMBER KISS COUNCIL MEMBER RISK? YES REMEMBER, DEREK? YES YES, YES. YES, FOLKS GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AT 740. PM FOR THOSE WHO ARE WATCHING THE STREAM. WE WILL TURN OFF THE SOUND, BUT WE'LL LEAVE. THE VIDEO RUNNING COUNCIL WILL RESUME THE REGULAR SESSION AND WE'LL FINISH THE MEETING AND THAT WILL ALSO INCLUDE THE BUDGET WORKSHOP, PART TWO. SO THAT'S COMIN OKAY HERE WE GO TO, THINKING ABOUT RIGHT MOVED THAT WE RETURN TO THE PUBLIC MEETING. SECOND AND IF COUNCIL TURNED THEIR MICROPHONES BACK ON ONE AND COUNCIL MEMBER SHOULDERS TO MAYOR SPAULDING YES, COUNCIL MEMBER SHOW YES. COUNCIL MEMBER KISS, REMEMBER, FELLOWS? YES YES, YES. SIX YES VOTES TO RESUME THE REGULAR SESSION AT 815. PM. ALL RIGHT. IS THERE ANY OTHER BUSINESS? UM OH, YEAH. THAT WEIRD TURN. IS THERE A SECOND? YEAH NEVER MIND. JOKING INSIDE. UM DIRECTOR STARTS. MAYBE YOU CAN LET COUNCIL KNOW ABOUT THIS, UH, NEWEST RECOGNITION. I HAVEN'T HEARD OF THIS, SO I HAD TO LOOK INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE. BUT THIS 90 PLUS CASH FESTIVAL AWARD. A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT MEANS, YES . UM SO THIS PARTICULAR AWARD IS , UH, ASSOCIATED WITH BASICALLY UTILIZING BEST PRACTICES FOR THE INVESTMENT OF, UM CITY FUNDS AND MAKING SURE THAT THE LIQUIDITY LEVELS ARE SET AT APPROPRIATE LEVELS BASED ON DATA THAT THEY COLLECTED CRITERIA THAT THEY HAVE. AND SO WHAT'S THE OVERALL OBJECTIVE IS, UM, WITHIN THE ALICE IS THAT IS DONE AND THE REVIEW IS TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE AH, AGAIN KEEPING OUR LIQUIDITY LEVEL FOR, UM MAIN OPERATING COSTS AT APPROPRIATE LEVELS, BUT THEN ALSO PREPARED AND HAVE THE RESERVE AND THE, UM DIFFERENT LEVELS OF TIME PERIODS OF INVESTMENTS. SO THEY DO AN ANALYSIS THAT YOU KNOW WHAT SHOULD WE PUT IN 12 MONTHS? WHAT SHOULD WE PUT IN 24 MONTHS? UM AND THEY. UM LOOK AT THOSE LEVELS. MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE MAINTAINING THOSE, BUT THEN THEY ALSO HAVE OTHER CRITERIA RELATED TO OUR BANKING RELATIONSHIPS, MAXIMIZING OR, UM, BANKING RELATIONSHIPS. ARE WE INTERNET? A, UM. AND I IN A BANKING RELATIONSHIP THAT IS COSTING, UH , THE CITY THE APPROPRIATE AMOUNT OF MONEY OR LESS. ARE WE MAXIMIZING AND UTILIZING WIRE PAYMENTS AND PAYMENTS AS THEY ARE LESS UM, COSTLY AS FAR AS CHECK PRODUCTION, BUT IT'S ALSO, UM, CONTRARY TO SOME OF THE NEWS ARTICLES THAT YOU HAVE OUT THERE , IT'S LESS RISKY WHEN IT COMES TO PROCESSING LARGE PAYMENTS. UM AND THEN THEY ALSO LOOK AT OUR INVESTMENT POLICY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, UH, ABLE TO INVEST IN THE APPROPRIATE FUNDS THAT COULD ALSO MAXIMIZE OUR INVESTMENT EARNINGS POTENTIAL. UM AND SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IT'S A FAIRLY NEW A WORD THROUGH THIS, UM CASH BEST THREE PLUS ONE. COMPANY THAT HAS BEEN NATIONALLY. UM, UTILIZED BY THE WAY. UM. CITIES AND PARTICIPATING CITIES. BUT THEN THERE'S ALSO A NUMBER OF ENTITIES WITHIN OHIO THAT UTILIZE IT AS WELL. IT'S SOMETHING THAT ALSO GOES IN CONNECTION WITH OUR INVESTMENT INVESTMENT MANAGERS. SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I UTILIZE THE DATA AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM CASH BEST AS FAR AS WHAT LIQUIDITY LEVELS WE NEED. AND THEN I PASSED THAT INFORMATION ON TO OUR INVESTMENT MANAGERS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE IN THE RIGHT CATEGORIES. SO DO WE APPLY FOR THIS DESIGNATION? I MEAN, I KNOW IT'S OVER A YEAR PERIOD OF TIME THAT WE GET FOUR QUARTERS AND NO, WE DO HAVE, UM, WE HAVE HEARD IN ORDER TO GET THE ANALYSIS AND THE DATA AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THEM. WE
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HAVE A MINIMAL FEE THAT WE PAY AS FAR AS A CONTRACT SERVICE. SO IT'S AND IT'S $1800 A QUARTER.IT WAS ORIGINALLY BASED ON AH, THE POTENTIAL SAVINGS OR ADDITIONAL INTEREST EARNINGS THAT THEY COULD POTENTIALLY FIND FOR US UTILIZING THIS LEVELS. SO CONGRATULATIONS AGAIN ALWAYS FINDS ALWAYS FIND SOME OTHER WAY TO GET RECOGNIZED. I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT THAT
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TAKES US TO REMAINING ITEMS FROM THE CITY COUNCIL WORKSHOP AND THE ANNUAL BUDGET PROGRAM. JOE THANK YOU. WE HAVE TWO REMAINING ITEMS TO GO OVER. ONE IS THE CAPITAL BUDGET COUNCIL MET IN PRIORITIZE SOME OF THE CAPITAL PROJECTS EARLIER THIS FALL. SO WE WANTED TO GO BACK THROUGH THOSE AND GET A VALIDATION FROM COUNSEL AS TO HOW YOU WANTED TO PROCEED WITH SOME OF THOSE WE HAVE. UH WE CREATED FOUR CATEGORIES BASED ON COUNCILS FEEDBACK WITH THE LAST AT THE CAPITAL PROJECTS MEETING, SO WE'D LIKE TO TRY TO AGAIN VERIFY THE DIRECTION THAT YOU'D LIKE US TO TAKE WITH THE 2024 BUDGET AND THEN S SO THE COUNCIL BUDGET. AH REVIEW. UM SO WE HAVE WE HAVE SOME NUMBERS THAT WE'D LIKE TO SHARE WITH YOU REGARDING THAT. AND THEN GET YOUR DIRECTION ON THAT. AND THEN WHEN WE'RE WHEN WE'RE FINISHED WITH ALL THAT WE'D LIKE TO GO BACK AND REVISIT IT. ABOUT THREE ITEMS. UM AND VERIFY THAT YOU WANT US TO TAKE A PARTICULAR DIRECTION ON ON THOSE THREE ITEMS, ONE OF THOSE HAS TO DO WITH THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A VILLAGE CENTER ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FUND OR A COUPLE OF OPTIONS THERE. THE OTHER IS TO ADDRESS UM. TO ADDRESS THE COLA FOR THE STAFF. AND. THAT MAY BE THE LAST. MAYBE THEY THE ONLY OTHER ONE. SO WITH THAT, UM BETHANY COULD START BY REVIEWING THE ALL FUNDS NUMBERS AND WE COULD GET INTO THE CAPITAL PROJECTS. OKAY? SO ALL FUNDS. UM WE'RE STARTING WITH THE PAGES 54 TO 55, WHICH IS THE CONSOLIDATED VIEW OF ALL OF THE FUNDS OF THE CITY. UM JUST A REMINDER ON WELL, ACTUALLY NOT A REMINDER YET, BUT AN OVERVIEW WOULD BE 2024. WE'VE PROJECTED TO INCREASE IN OUR OVERALL BALANCE OF 1.7 MILLION, UM 2020 FOR THE OVERALL REVENUES ARE ELECTED TO DECREASE AND THAT IS PRIMARILY DUE TO THE SIGNIFICANT AMOUNTS OF STATE GRANTS STATE AND FEDERAL GRANTS THAT WE'VE RECEIVED OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS ARE GOING TO BE LESS, UM, AS PROJECTED IN 2024 AS WE DRAW DOWN ON THE REMAINDER OF THOSE AND THEN THE 2024. OVERALL EXPENDITURES ARE ANTICIPATED DECREASE CAPITAL EXPENSES, UM, AGAIN AS IT RELATES TO THE INFRASTRUCTURE GRANT. ARE DECREASING, UM AND THEN OPERATIONS DECREASED BY 6.8 MILLION, WHICH IS ALSO UM, TIED TO SOME OF THE GRAND, UM, RECORDING AND ACCOUNTING THAT WE HAVE. AH REMINDER FOR THE CONSOLIDATED FINANCIAL PRESENTATION. UM THE OVERALL IT'S THE OVERALL PICTURE THAT FUNDS IT'S NOT APPROPRIATE TO MEASURE. OVERALL BUDGET HEALTH DUE TO FUND BALANCES AND THE RESTRICTIONS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THEM. AND THEN, UM, THE OPERATING EXPENDITURES. ALRIGHT SMALL. IT'S A SMALL PERCENTAGE OF THE REVENUES. UM IF YOU LOOK IN THE 23 AND 24 ACTUALLY 20.223 AND 24, RANGING FROM 25% TO 34% AND THAT IS DUE TO A LOT OF THE GRAND ACTIVITY AND THE RECORDING OF THOSE FUNDS AND THE AMOUNTS OF REVENUES THAT WE'RE GETTING. WE WILL GET BACK TO, UM , THE 60 ISH PERCENT RANGE OF WHERE OUR OPERATING EXPENSES ARE ABOUT. 62% OF OUR OPERATING REVENUES. UM THESE YEARS, OBVIOUSLY WITH THE GRANTS ARE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. UM ON PAGES 50 E SIX AND 57. THERE'S A ACTUALLY 57. THERE'S A DIFFERENT VIEW OF THE CONSOLIDATED WHERE YOU CAN SEE THE GENERAL FUND ACTIVITY RELATED TO ALL OF THE OTHER CATEGORIES THAT WE HAVE
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WITHIN, UM THE BUDGET BOOK, AND THAT IS RELATED TO JUST 2024 INFORMATION TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF THAT. MM HMM. ANY QUESTIONS ON. THAT PARTICULAR INFORMATION. THE ALL FUNDS. ALRIGHT QUESTIONS, HONEY. SO NOW WE CAN MOVE ON TO CAPITAL PROJECTS. WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE ALL BEEN WAITING FOR HIM. SURE. UM SO THERE. OBVIOUSLY THERE IS SOME DIFFERENCE SOME AMENDMENTS THAT I NEED TO MAKE TOO. THE SECOND READING OF THE ORDINANCE IN RELATION TO CAPITAL. UM BUT THIS WAS THE OVERALL PICTURE THAT WAS WITHIN THE BUDGET. UH, THE ROADS AND UTILITIES ARE STILL SIGNIFICANT, MAINLY DUE TO THE GRANTS. UM THE CAPITAL BUDGET IS BASED ON COUNCIL PRIORITIES AND THEN ALSO BASED ON THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEEDS AND AVAILABLE MONEY OF IT THROUGHOUT THE BUSINESS PARK. THIS THIS. TOTAL AMOUNT OF CAPITAL WILL GO DOWN BY ABOUT $45 MILLION, UNLESS YOU GUYS MOVE OTHER PROJECTS FROM 25 TO 24. JUST A REMINDER OF WHAT PAYS FOR CAPITAL PROJECTS AND WHAT PAYS FOR, UM, THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF CAPITAL PRAGUE PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE. SO UM, THIS IS OUR EVER FAMOUS DOLLAR THAT HE HAS NO STEVE LEFT. HE IS THE ONE THAT PUT THIS TOGETHER FOR US, UM, YEARS AGO, SO REMINDER OUT OF THE INCOME TAX THAT WE RECEIVE. OVERALL WE KEEP ABOUT 67. RELATED TO GENERAL OPERATIONS AND GENERAL CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS AND SO CURRENTLY 85% COMES FROM THE AIR GOES TO THE GENERAL FUND, 12% GOES TO THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FOR GENERAL CAPITAL PROJECTS AND 3% GOES TO THE PARK IMPROVEMENT. AND SO I JUST WANTED TO KEEP THAT IN MIND, UM, WANTED YOU TO KEEP THAT IN MIND AS WE GO THROUGH THIS PRESENTATION. WELL I GUESS UNTIL TODAY, THIS SLIDE UM SO PAGE 94 WE HAVE PUT IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET, A NEW CAPITAL FUND RELATED TO VILLAGE CENTER. THIS DOES NOT NECESSARILY MEAN THAT WE NEED TO HAVE THAT FUN OR WANTED TO HAVE THAT FUND. UM IT WAS JUST AN OPTION THAT WE HAD PUT IN IF YOU WANTED TO DIRECT MONEY. UM WITHIN A FUND, UM TO THE VILLAGE CENTER. ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CAPITAL NEEDS THAT WE HAVE. THERE ARE OTHER OPTIONS WHERE IT COULD, UM YOU KNOW FOR THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT COULD BE COMPLETED OUT OF THE GENERAL CAPITAL FUND, BUT THIS WOULD ALLOW US TO EARMARK. FUNDS. IN THE FUTURE TO INVEST IN THE VILLAGE CENTER. BUT THEN ALSO WE ARE PROPOSING A $5 MILLION TRANSFERRED TO THIS FUND TO START IT OUT FOR A PROJECT AND MILLAGE SIGNER, UM AS A REMINDER OF THE 1.5% THAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT BEFORE, IS NOT, UM. IT WOULD BE REDUCING THE GENERAL FUND, SO IT'S NOT TAKING AWAY FROM THE ALREADY ALLOCATED CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT IN PARK IMPROVEMENT, SO IT'D BE ADDITIONAL CAPITAL. AH FUNDS THAT WE WOULD HAVE IF YOU LOOK IN THE BUDGET IN THE GENERAL FUND. THIS IS CONSIDERED WITHIN ALL OF MY PROJECTIONS WHERE THE GENERAL FUND CONTINUES TO INCREASE, EVEN WITH CONSIDERATION OF TAKING THAT 1.5% OUT AND PUTTING IT INTO A DIFFERENT FUND. AND SO THAT IS PROJECTED TO, UM EARN ABOUT $600,000 ANNUALLY FOR THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS. AND THERE IS A PROJECT THAT IS PROPOSED FOR THIS FUND, WHICH IS THE HISTORIC VILLAGE CENTER ROAD. NETWORK EXTENSION. UM 5 MILLION OF IT WOULD BE THE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION AND THERE'S $500,000 LISTED IN THERE FOR PLANNING PURPOSES. SO BETHANY WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? THAT IS THIS 1.5. VILLAGE CENTER IMPROVEMENT FUND. THIS INCOME ALLOCATION THAT'S GOING TO BE YOU HAVE TO REDO YOUR DOLLAR, BASICALLY BECAUSE IT WILL HAVE ITS OWN LITTLE SLIVER, A LITTLE BIT SMALLER. THEN THE PARK IMPROVEMENT FUND WILL BE ABOUT HALF OF THAT. BUT IT WILL STILL BE PART OF JUST A NEW PEACE TO THIS. PUZZLE I GUESS THIS AND IT[01:25:04]
WOULD STAY WITHIN THAT. 67% SO IT'S JUST TAKING FROM THE GENERAL FUND AND REPURPOSING PIE. OKAY? AND IF COUNSEL WOULD CHOOSE NOT TO IMPLEMENT THAT WE COULD STILL DO ANNUAL TRANSFERS, ASSUMING THAT THE MONEY IS THERE IN THE GENERAL FUND. IT WAS JUST LIKELY BE TRANSFERRED TO THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUND FUND FOR A ONE INSTEAD. THIS THIS BECOMES IT'S ALMOST LIKE A AUTOMATIC TRANSFER TO YOUR 41 K. YEAH. I THINK I KNOW IT'S A LOT OF SENSE REALLY MEAN. OTHER THAN THE FACT THAT OBVIOUSLY IF WE'RE . IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE IT. IT'S US COMMITTING. TO MOVING FORWARD THAT AND HAVING THAT MONEY THERE AND LIKE YOU SAID, IT'S KIND OF LIKE YOU'RE SAVING FOR THAT PROJECT. ARE THERE ANY OTHER ADVANTAGES OR DISADVANTAGES THAT WE SHOULD BE? I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY THE DISADVANTAGES YOU CAN'T YOU CAN'T USE IT FOR SOMETHING ELSE. BUT YOU COULD TRANSFER IT BACK, COULDN'T YOU IF YOU WANTED TO LATER, HARRY, IS THERE NO BACK SEATS ONCE YOU PUT IT IN THEIR CODE? UM IS SOMETHING THAT SUGGESTED BY ORDINANCE AND DAKOTA UPDATES. SO IF THERE HAPPENS TO BE A TIME WHERE THOSE PROJECTS RUN OUT, UM YEAH, THEN THAT COULD COULD BE UPDATED AGAIN TO PUT THAT 1.5% BACK AND BACK INTO THE GENERAL GENERAL FUND. AND THEN IF THERE ARE NO PROJECTS RELATED TO THAT PARTICULAR PURPOSE ANY LONGER THE R C ALLOWS YOU TO UM, CLOSE THE FUN AND TRANSFERRED BACK TO THE I GUESS I'M WONDERING FROM PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN HERE LONGER THAN ME OR THEIR ADVANTAGES OR DISADVANTAGES WERE NOT RECOGNIZING IN PUTTING THAT MONEY INTO THAT SPECIFIC FUND. IT'S JUST IT'S JUST AN ACCOUNTING MECHANISM. THE MONEY IS STILL THERE, RIGHT. IT'S ALSO A WAY TO. MM HMM. PRESERVE. OR REGULATE THE EXCESS TO THE RESERVE. UM, FOUR THINGS THAT. THAT WOULD NOT NEED TO MAKE YOU WOULDN'T NEED TO MAKE AN ADDITIONAL DECISION ABOUT THAT, AND IT WOULD ALLOW FOR THOSE FUNDS TO BE AVAILABLE FOR THAT, WITHOUT OTHER PEOPLE NEEDING TO USE IT. YOU SAID IT'S. IF IT EXCEEDS THE TIMELINE, YOU CAN BE CLAWED BACK. WHAT KIND OF TIMELINE WOULD WE HAVE ON THIS? 1.5? TO THAT END, LET'S SAY IN FIVE YEARS, THEY DON'T DO SOMETHING THAT CAN JUST KEEP SITTING THERE, OR IS IT LIKE WE DO? WE HAVE A TIME FRAME IN OUR MIND. AND I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THAT WOULD BE. BUT TECHNICALLY, TECHNICALLY, UM, IF YOU CREATE A FUND WITH THE O R C IF YOU DO NOT HAVE ANY OF THOSE EXPENSES, UH, THAT IT WAS INTENDED FOR COMING OUT WITHIN 10 YEARS, IT AUTOMATICALLY HAS TO BE CLOSED AND PUT BACK SO I THINK THAT, UM THAT POTENTIALLY I DON'T. THE INFRASTRUCTURE REPLACEMENT. FUN WAS. IN JEOPARDY OF THAT, AND AT ONE PERIOD OF TIME, AND SO WE'RE NOT BANK FEARS. COME HERE OUT OF THERE. BUT YOU KNOW THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WITHIN OUR ANALYSIS WE HAVE TO LOOK AT, UM THE TIMING AND THE PURPOSE OF THAT SO GO AHEAD, DEPENDING ON COUNCILS. UM, INTERESTS AND USING THE MONEY. ONE OPTION WOULD BE TO USE IT FOR CAPITAL MAINTENANCE ITEMS. WE HAVE ANNUAL MAINTENANCE ON ROUNDABOUTS AND, UH, THE ROSE AROUND PARK. AS LONG AS IT'S A CAPITAL EXPENDITURE. YOU COULD USE IT FOR THOSE THINGS. AND ASSUMING THAT IT'S THOSE THOSE PURPOSES ARE REFERENCE WHEN THE WHEN THE FUND IS ESTABLISHED. I THINK THAT THE INITIAL IDEA WAS THAT IT COULD BE USED FOR LARGER EXPENSES THAT WOULD BE LIKE NEW ROAD EXTENSIONS OR NEW UTILITY EXTENSIONS. BUT SAYING AS IF THOSE DON'T HAPPEN, WE COULD REVERT TO USING FOR THE OTHER OPTIONS BY PUTTING THAT IN THE FUND DEFINITION FROM THE BEGINNING. YES THE DOLLAR AMOUNT IS $600,000 A YEAR. IT'S NOT GOING TO OVER 10 YEARS. IT HAS TO SOME MONEY, BUT YEAH, I THINK WE OUGHT TO DO IT. I LIKE THE IDEA OF IT BECAUSE YOU KNOW, IT SENDS A MESSAGE THAT WE THINK IMPROVING THE VILLAGE CENTER, WHICH I THINK IT'S BEEN A PRIORITY FOR COUNCIL MHM, AND IT'S KIND OF STAGNATED. THIS SAYS YES. THIS IS A PRIORITY. WE HAVE THIS FUND AND WE WANT TO UTILIZE HIM. I AGREE. YOU CAN'T SPEND IT ON LIGHTS. THAT'S JUST[01:30:07]
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S CONSIDERED RIGHT FLOWERPOTS AND LIGHTS. INSIDE, YOU NO, NOT ACTUALLY COMPLETELY GROUP CASEY ON THEM. WELL, WE DEFINITELY HAVE A LOT. COMING UP SOMETIME.WE SETTLE. HOPEFULLY, X 5 TO 10 YEARS CAN NOT SEE US USING UTILIZING THE MONEY FOR SURE IN THOSE AREAS. SO BASED ON THAT FEEDBACK, WE WILL INCORPORATE THAT. MHM YES, MHM. OKAY WE INCLUDED THE, UM. THE PRIORITY EXERCISE THAT WE DID THAT JOE SENT OUT IN A MEMO. IT'S A LITTLE SMALL ON THE SCREEN, BUT I'M SURE THAT YOU'RE PRETTY FAMILIAR WITH IT. BUT JUST AS A REMINDER, UM, WITH THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS LIST, I PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE DIRECTED YOU TO THE PAGE THAT IS ON IT'S TOO BACK HERE. 64. AND WE TOOK THE DIRECTION UM, WHERE THERE.
PUTTING IT INTO THE CATEGORY OF GREEN, YELLOW AND RED, PRIMARILY ON THE MAJORITY OF VOTES WITHIN THOSE CATEGORIES, AND THEN WE ALSO TOOK INTO CONSIDERATION AWAITED CALCULATION, UM WITHIN THOSE CATEGORIES, AND IT BECAME. CLEAR THAT THERE WASN'T NEEDED ORANGE CATEGORY BECAUSE, WHILE MAYBE THE YOU KNOW THE MAJORITY WAS ON, UM. YES THE HIGHEST NUMBER OF VOTES WAS ON RED AND THE MAJORITY ENDED UP BEING ON EITHER GREEN OR YELLOW. SO THAT WAS THE ORANGE CATEGORY AND THE BUDGET BOOK HAS BEEN PREPARED ACCORDING TO THIS PARTICULAR CHART AS FAR AS WHICH YEAR WE PUT THE COSTS AND. UM ONE THING TO MENTION THAT, UM IN THE RED CATEGORY WE DO HAVE YOU'LL SEE THE HARLEY STREET ROAD IMPROVEMENTS. AND THERE WERE REASONS WHY THINGS WERE REMOVED.
UM DO TO, YOU KNOW, COUNCIL INTEREST, BUT ALSO IF YOU LOOK BACK AT THAT DOLLAR, I'M NOT GONNA GO BACK TO IT. BUT THAT OTHER BIG CHUNK UM OF THE DOLLAR UH, IS SHARING AND THEN ALSO INCLUDES OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT MONIES, AND SO WE REMOVED IT FROM THIS PARTICULAR PRIORITY EXERCISE BECAUSE IF ANYTHING HAPPENS ON THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT AND THOSE IMPROVEMENTS, IT WOULD BE TIED TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. UM RELATED PROJECTS. AND SO ONCE THAT FUNDING IS AVAILABLE, AND IF THEY NEED IS THERE AND THERE'S A PROJECT THERE, UH, THAT WILL LIKELY HAPPEN. OTHER FUNDS CAPITAL PROJECTS IN AH DEVELOPMENT FUND? YES. HMM PEOPLE BASED ON COUNCIL FEEDBACK . THOSE OTHER PROJECTS WOULD BE ELIMINATED AT NEXT YEAR'S CAPITAL BUDGET DISCUSSION. YOU DON'T SEE THOSE THE ONES IN RED. WHAT DO WE HAVE THE HAVE THE MONEY FOR HOW MUCH OF ALL THAT'S ON THIS LIST? RIGHT, SO YELLOW. UM. TECHNICALLY YOU HAVE THE MONEY FOR ALL OF THEM BECAUSE THEY ARE IN THE BUDGET. IT JUST DEPENDS ON WHICH YEAR YOU WANT TO MOVE THEM TO. UM IF YOU TURN TO PAGE TO 66. AT THE VERY BOTTOM OF THAT CATEGORY. ALL RIGHT. BOTTOM OF THE PAGE SHOWS YOU THE REMAINING FUND BALANCE WITHIN EACH OF THOSE FUNDS AND SO DEPENDING ON WHAT PROJECTS YOU WANT TO MOVE, WE WOULD FIRST EVALUATE WHAT CASH IS AVAILABLE WITHIN THAT YEAR, BUT THEN ALSO EVALUATE WHETHER IT NEEDS TO STAY IN THE FUN THAT IT'S IN OR IF ANOTHER FUND CAN SUPPORT IT. SO UM THERE ARE. CAPITAL FUNDS AVAILABLE TO MOVE PROJECTS EITHER DIRECTION. WHAT ARE THE RED ASPECTS? YEAH, WE JUST DON'T . THOSE WERE ITEMS THAT WERE INTRODUCED BY COUNCIL AT THE CAPITOL, JUST MEETING FROM THE DEPTH OF SPORTS ON ON THEM YET THEY ARE WAITING FOR ME TO GET THE FINAL UPDATES TO THE LEASE AGREEMENT. SO HOPEFULLY I'LL BE ABLE TO WORK ON THAT REMAINDER OF THIS WEEK AND THEN INTO NEXT WEEK AND THEN UPDATE ON THE
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FUNDRAISER. UH UNDERSTAND THAT THEY HAVE BEEN PRETTY SUCCESSFUL. I DON'T HAVE THE DOLLAR. AND, UH, THEY'VE BEEN TALKING TO CONSTRUCTION PARTNERS ABOUT BUILDING COSTS. SO THERE THEY'RE GETTING VERY SERIOUS. AND THAT. POTENTIAL DONATION IS NOT INCLUDED AS A DOLLAR AMOUNT ANYWHERE IN THE BUDGET RIGHT NOW, SO THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE ADDED LATER OR APPROVED WHENEVER YOU GUYS DECIDED TO DO SOMETHING WITH IT. THE AMOUNT THERE'S NO MELON MAKING A DONATION WERE WE THOUGHT WE WERE JUST AT LEAST AGREEMENT? YEAH THE DIRECTION THAT I RECALL FROM COUNSELORS THAT WE WERE PLANNING TO MAKE ANY OTHER DONATIONS OTHER THAN THE CONTRIBUTION OF THE LAND CORRECT. STILL, THAT CAPITAL STATE CAPITAL MONEY THAT'S GOING TO. RESULTS IMPORTANT PLANT THERE AS WE STILL OWN THE LAND. CORRECT? YES MHM. SO ONE THING I WANTED TO POINT OUT RELATIVE TO THE PROJECTS THAT WE CAN AND CAN'T DO. THE PROJECTS AND GREEN WERE THE ONES THAT RECEIVED THE HIGHEST PRIORITY FROM COUNCIL. UH THE ONES IN YELLOW HAD THEY WERE A STEP BELOW. SO IN TERMS OF PRIORITIZING, WE PRIORITIZED IN TERMS OF 2024 THE PROJECTS THAT WERE SIGNIFICANTLY IN THEIR GREEN CATEGORY BASED ON ON THE SCORES THAT YOU GAVE THEM.ANYTHING IN THE YELLOW CATEGORY HAD A MIX OF SCORES. UH THE MAJORITY SEEMED TO BE WITHIN THE YELLOW CATEGORY. THERE'S ONE ITEM THERE PICKLEBALL, WHICH, DEPENDING ON HOW YOU HOW YOU LOOK AT IT, IF YOU IF YOU JUST TAKE A MATHEMATICAL CALCULATION AND DO THE DISTRIBUTION OF SCORES PROBABLY SHOULD JUMP UP INTO THE GREEN CATEGORY BECAUSE OF ITS PROXIMITY TO THE ITEM JUST ABOVE IT VERSUS THE ITEM JUST BELOW IT, BUT BECAUSE OF THE MAJORITY OF SCORES BEING IN THAT YELLOW CATEGORY BY COUNSEL WE DECIDED TO LEAVE IT IN THAT YELLOW CATEGORY AND THEN HAVE COUNCIL DISCUSS IT MORE. UM AND DETERMINED. DO WE WANT TO SHADE STRUCTURE NUMBER ONE? IF SO, WHAT TYPE OF SHADE STRUCTURE DO WE WANT? AND THEN WE JUST HEARD ABOUT THE NOISE ISSUE. DO WE WANT TO INCORPORATE THAT IN SOME WAY? THE OTHER THING THAT I WANTED TO BRING UP HIS RELATIVE.
TO THE PROJECTS AND WHAT WE CAN'T FUND SO WE CAN WEEKEND AS BETHANY SAID FUND EVERYTHING IN THE GREEN AND YELLOW CATEGORIES. BUT THERE'S SOME PHYSICAL LIMITATIONS ON THE NUMBER OF PROJECTS THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY TAKE ON AND ACCOMPLISHING A YEAR, SO WE'RE PROBABLY DEPENDING ON THE PROJECT. WE MIGHT BE NEXT THING OUT IF YOU WERE TO BRING ONE OR TWO OF THOSE YELLOW PROJECTS UP IN THE 2024. OR DROP, MAYBE DROP SOMETHING. I AGREE. MHM. IT JUST DEPENDS ON THE COMPLEXITY OF THE PROJECT AND THE TIMELINE TO HAVE IT HAVE IT DESIGNED AND CONSTRUCTED. SUGAR RUN INFRASTRUCTURE IS WHERE IN SUGAR WHAT IS IT? YOU SURE RUN TAPAS EGG PROJECTS THAT WERE THAT CAME OUT OF THE MEETINGS WITH THE RESIDENTS NORTH OF 161. YEAH, SO THAT'S RIGHT. ONCE THE 605 DROP PLANE, WHICH I THINK WE BROKE OUT SEPARATELY. THEIR MID BLOCK OR SIGNALIZED, UH, CROSSING INDICATORS. LEISURE TRAIL EXTENSIONS, AND THERE WERE SEVERAL OTHER PROJECTS. THAT'S TAMPA SAG BUS. HMM I THINK THAT WAS STEVE MAYORS INVENTION.
YEAH, I THINK ACTUALLY, KEIRA GETS CREDIT FOR THAT. IT'S AN ACRONYM THAT DESCRIBED THE IT'S LIKE THE SUGAR. TRANSPORTATION TRANSPORTATION TRIAN PEDESTRIAN ACCESS ACCESS. COOL SOMETHING I'M GONNA MOVE ON THE SAME ACRONYM A FUN WAY TO JUST WE HAVE SEVEN YELLOWS FOR A PEDESTRIAN CROSSING ACROSS 161. WE HAVE NO CONCEPT WITH SOMETHING LIKE THAT WOULD COST RIGHT. BUT WOULD IT OKAY? SO THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO ASK. SO DO WE EVEN EVEN KEEP IT ON THERE.
THEN IF IT'S YOU KNOW, WE CAN GET A GRANT FOR IT. SO WHAT? WHAT'S IT COST OF TO FIND OUT THE COST? GO AHEAD. WE DID IT. EXCUSE ME. WE DID A FEASIBILITY STUDY. UM IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY OF COLUMBUS AND METRO PARKS. I THINK IT WAS IN 2019. TO LOOK AT OPTIONS FOR CREATING BETTER PEDESTRIAN CROSSINGS. UH THIS WAS IN THE TAYLOR FARM LIKE SO FROM HAMILTON'S ROAD TO HARLEM AREA, SO THAT FEASIBILITY STUDY LOOKED AT THREE DIFFERENT OPTIONS AND POTENTIAL CAUSE.
IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME. BUT I'M THINKING THAT WAS LIKE A $10 MILLION RANGE FOR THE DIFFERENT
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OPTIONS AT THAT TIME, YOU KNOW 20 $19, BUT THAT HAS ALWAYS BEEN ENVISIONED AS SOMETHING THAT COULD BE A JOINT GREAT GRANT APPLICATION BETWEEN CITY OF COLUMBUS, METRO PARKS AND THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY. AND SO REALLY IN ORDER FOR THAT TO HAPPEN. IT WOULD TAKE, YOU KNOW WORK TO GET THE PARTNERS INVOLVED IN WORKING TOGETHER ON A GRANT APPLICATION, SO I THINK THAT'S WHY IT STAYS ON THE LIST. IF IT IS A PRIORITY, WE WOULD START THAT ADVANCED TYPE OF WORK. AND I GUESS THAT'S ONE OF THE, UM, OUTLIERS. WE ACTUALLY BUMPED THAT OUT TO 2026. DUE TO THAT REASON, UM THERE'S MORE THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE RELATED TO THAT, BUT IT DOES LOOK LIKE IT FELL ON THE 2025 CATEGORY. OKAY SO WHAT'S YOUR SUGGESTION? THAT'S MY ISSUES. YEAH I ASSUME THAT THAT WAS GOING TO GET SOME SIGNIFICANT DISCUSSION THIS EVENING, OR MAYBE AT THE NEXT MEETING BEFORE COUNCIL WOULD CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE BUDGET ORDINANCE. BUT UM SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR SOME DIRECTION ON THAT ISN'T DO YOU WANT TO CONSIDER A SHADE STRUCTURE NUMBER ONE NUMBER TWO. IF YOU DO WHAT TYPE OF SHADE STRUCTURE ARE YOU LEANING TOWARDS? AND THEN NUMBER THREE. GIVEN THE CONVERSATION TONIGHT. IS THERE ANY INTEREST IN DOING SOMETHING RELATIVE TO SOUND ABATEMENT? THINK WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING RELATIVE TO THE SOUND OF IT, AND I FEEL JUST REALLY TERRIBLE ABOUT THIS SITUATION. I DO. UM I THINK WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION. TO AT LEAST LOOK INTO WHAT YOU KNOW. SOUND ABATEMENT OPTIONS ARE UM, WE THINK WE KIND OF BLEW IT. WE DIDN'T YOU KNOW. AND I THINK IT'S WRONG FOR US TO JUST GO TOO BAD. TOO SAD. WE HAVE TO LOOK AT IT. I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYBODY ELSE GOES THAT WAY OR NOT, AND I FEEL LIKE THAT HAS TO HAPPEN BEFORE WE DO ANYTHING ELSE. I THINK WE HAVE TO KNOW WHAT WHAT KIND OF OPTIONS ARE OUT THERE? WHAT WOULD CAUSE THIS TO DO SOMETHING? UM AND HOW THAT FITS INTO ANOTHER PLANT BEFORE WE START. DOING SOMETHING THAT MAKES US A 12 MONTH A YEAR NUISANCE FOR THE FOR THE NEIGHBOR. UM YOU KNOW IF WE BUILD IT IF WE BUILD THE BUILDING DOES THAT MAKE IT ECHO MORE? DO WE? I THINK WE HAVE TO. TALK TO WHETHER IT'S A SOUND ENGINEER, SOMEBODY I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE TO DO THE RIGHT THEN. WELL, I AGREE. I THINK THE FIRST STEP IS ENGAGING A PROFESSIONAL TRYING TO MITIGATE SOUND OURSELVES. I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO BE VERY EFFECTIVE AND BUT I THE ONLY THING I DO DISAGREE ON. I THINK THAT CAN HAPPEN IN CONJUNCTION WITH WHATEVER WE DECIDE TONIGHT BECAUSE I DO THINK IF WE DO STRUCTURES IT COULD POSSIBLY MITIGATE OR THAT COULD ENHANCE THE SOUND. SO I THINK IF WE HAVE A DIRECTION AND SAY OKAY, THIS IS OUR CURRENT SITUATION IS WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO DO. AND THEN WE ENGAGE WITH SOUND ENGINEER.THEY CAN, YOU KNOW? TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT WHEN THEY ARE MAKING THE RECOMMENDATIONS. I WAS DOWN IN DALLAS LAST WEEKEND. AT THE NATIONAL PICKLE BALL. TURNING YOU ON. AND I WAS SHOWING JOE TODAY AND THEY HAD A DESTRUCTION THAT THEY HAD THEY HAD OUTSIDE COURTS AND THE HEAD INSIGHT COURTS AND THE INSIDE COURTS THEY HAD WERE IT'S PROBABLY MORE THAT METAL STRUCTURE UM, THAT'S PROPOSED HERE. BUT THEN THEY ALMOST LOOKED LIKE THEY INSULATED. THE THING. ALL THE WAY AROUND AND DOWN THE WALLS. THEY PUT MATS AND I COULDN'T HEAR IT OUTSIDE WHEN I WAS IN THERE. I'M NOT SAYING WE DON'T GET A SOUND PERSON. BUT I'M SAYING IF WE WERE TO LOOT FORWARD, SAY WITH THE STRUCTURE AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE WANT TO DO. I DO THINK THAT THERE ARE WAYS TO MITIGATE THAT SOUND, AND I SEE THAT DONE IN OTHER AREAS. I THINK IF YOU DO, PUT THE SOUND DAMPENING PANELS AND TAKE STEPS, THEN FOR SURE. IF WE THROW A METAL ROOF OUT THERE, I THINK IT EXACERBATES IT. YEAH MHM THAT I WILL SAY. I ALSO FOUND IT AND SARASOTA WAS IN A PLACE THAT HAD OPEN AIR. YEAH AND I COULD HEAR THAT. I MEAN, IT WAS JUST A ROOF. OPEN AIR AROUND LOOK BEAUTIFUL. EVERYTHING WAS GREAT, BUT THE SOUND DOES STILL I MEAN, IT GOES UP AND THAT'S FINE. BUT IT ALSO GOES OUT TO AND IN THAT SCENARIO, SO IF WE'RE SOMEHOW I THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE AT LEAST SOME FORM OF WALLS AROUND THIS THAT STOP THE SOUND FROM GOING AS HE SAID. NORTH AND SOUTH NOW I WILL SAY WHEN I WAS IN HIS YARD WITH HIM AND MEETING WITH HIM AND WENT ON A SATURDAY MORNING AGAIN SERVICE COUNCIL COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO. IT WAS PROBABLY THE BUSIEST THERE ANYMORE I'VE EVER SEEN OUT THERE. THERE WERE PARTS OF THE WEAPON DOWN THE ROAD GOING INTO OUR PUBLIC SERVICE BUILDING LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE. IN THE MAJORITY OF THE SOUND THAT I HEARD IS EXACTLY WHERE HE HAD HIS ARROWS DOING ALL THE
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MARKINGS. IT WAS FROM THE EIGHT QUARTS TO THE WEST. WHERE THE MAIN COURTS THAT PRODUCED THE MOST SOUND THAT I THINK HE'S HEARING. BECAUSE I TRIED TO LISTEN AND WENT WAY OUT TO THE YARD AND I TRIED TO SEE IF I COULD PICK UP SOUNDS AND THE OTHER EIGHT AND I THINK IT WAS BECAUSE THE HIGHER LEVEL PLAYERS OR ON THOSE COURTS. THEY HIT THE BALL THAT HARDER. THEREFORE YOU SEE IF YOU HEAR MORE SOUND, AS OPPOSED TO DOWN WITH THE OTHER COURSE WE HAVE. IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU KNOW, MORE SURE TO BEGINNERS SO YOU KNOW, WHATEVER WE DECIDE, I THINK MEDICATING THE COURTS THAT ARE CLOSEST TO THE WEST MAKES A LOT OF SENSE IF WE'RE JUST BASED ON MY EXPERIENCE OUT OF THIS YARD. SO THAT'S THE SCREENING THAT WE HAVE ON THE FENCES NOW BECAUSE I'M NOT PROVIDING ANY SOUND MITIGATION AT ALL. I'M SURE THERE'S SOME. I MEAN, THEY MAKE A MATERIAL THAT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE ROBUST. THAT LOOKS THE SAME PROBLEM WE RUN INTO IS THE MORE SOUND BARRIER THAT YOU PUT ON OFFENSE. THE MORE TO WORK AND PRESSURE YOU PUT ON THOSE POLES.AND WHEN IT'S WINDY OUT THERE, ACCORDING TO DAVE WARDEN WHO IS NEVER WINDY, A BEVEL HAD THIS HAPPEN. HE HAS HAD PULLS AT HIS TENNIS COURT BLOWN RIGHT OUT, AND THAT WASN'T EVEN WITH SOME OF THE IDEAS. I THINK WE'RE THINKING ABOUT NOW WE CAN CONCRETE, MAYBE DOWN PIPES. AND MAYBE THAT REINFORCES THEM SOME, UM, TO TRY TO MITIGATE THAT AS WELL. ONE THING I'LL ADD TO JUST THREE YEAR OLDS BUDGET CONSIDERATION ON THIS. WE CAME IN UNDER BUDGET PICKLEBALL COURTS, AND THAT WAS MAINLY BECAUSE WE DECIDED NOT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE SHADE STRUCTURE LAST YEAR, WE HAD THAT 300,000 SET ASIDE FOR SOME SORT OF SHAPE THAT WE DIDN'T DO SO WE CAME. WE HAVE 300,000. THAT'S I WON'T USE THE WORD ENCUMBERED, BUT IT IS STILL OUT THERE THAT WE DID NOT USE THAT WAS BUDGETED PICKLEBALL COURTS. BASED ON THE DECISION, UM THAT THE PARK BOARD MADE PARK RECREATION BOARD MADE. THEY'RE NOT REALLY AT THIS TIME MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT FACILITY, SO THE RESTROOM MONEY THAT WAS OUT THERE. PROBABLY COULD BE PULLED BACK NOW AND APPLIED TO WHATEVER TYPE OF RESTROOM FACILITY. WE WANT TO PUT OUT THERE FOR THE PICKLE BUCK QUARTZ, AND THAT WAS 600,000. SO THAT'S ABOUT 900,000 . IT'S NOT UP THERE RIGHT NOW THAT WE'VE ACTUALLY HAD IN THE BUDGET. UM FOR PICKUP UPWARDS SLASH RESTAURANT FACILITIES OUT THERE SO YOU KNOW, INCLUDING THAT MONEY? YOU CAN WHATEVER YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH, YOU COULD DO BUT THAT LINE ITEM THAT PICKLEBALL SHEET STRUCTURE LINE AT HIM DOESN'T INCLUDE ANYTHING RESTAURANT THAT THAT ACTUALLY IS JUST ALREADY IN THE 600. 619 THAT THAT'S THE 600 FOR ARREST. THE 600 FOR RESTROOMS IS WHAT WE APPROVED IN 2023 BUDGET. TO ACCOMPANY PICKLEBALL, OF COURSE, BUT WE NEVER USED IT BECAUSE WE NEVER BUILT. IT WOULD BE PARKS AND RECS IS DOING. THEY'RE NOT. THEY'RE NOT DOING IT NOW. IN ADDITION TO THAT THAT IS CURRENTLY IN 2024 BECAUSE WE CARRIED IT INTO THE 2024 BUDGET, BUT IT WAS TURNED TO A CONTRIBUTION TO JOINT PARKS. BUT WITH YOU SAYING THAT'S NOT HAPPENING. IT'S ALREADY INCLUDED IN THE 24 BUDGET. JUST NOT ALLOCATED QUESTION THAT'S NOT INCLUDED IN THE ONE THE ESTIMATE OF THEIR IS WITHOUT THAT. SO RIGHT 1000 THAT'S STRICTLY SHAPED STRUCTURE AND THEN SO IT WILL BE A SEPARATE LINE ITEM. IF WE DID IT BACK. 1.7 MILLION, WHAT SIDE INCLUDED. WHATEVER SHADE STRUCTURE SO I BELIEVE, GO AHEAD, MIKE UP AS FAR AS 1.7 OR VISIT 2.7, 0.7 IMPORTANT CLOTHES, SHELTER ROOF DOESN'T SHAKE HAND AND THE 300 PAGES. I THINK MY CITY TRYING TO ASK CHIP WITH WHISTLING LIKE YEAH, OKAY. THANK YOU. FROM MY PERSPECTIVE FROM THE SOUND STANDPOINT, I THINK WHEN WE DID THE CAPITAL PLANNING MEETINGS. WE HAD TALKED ABOUT LANDSCAPING AND LOOKING AT OTHER SOUND, DEAFENING STRIP APPROACHES. GIVEN WHAT WE HEARD TONIGHT. I THINK WE NEED TO ENTERTAIN A PROFESSIONAL TO HELP US UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT IS. AND NOT RELY ON OUR OWN PERSPECTIVE. I THINK WE SHOULD INVEST SOME MONEY TO SAY WHAT WOULD OTHER ALTERNATIVES BE? WHETHER IT'S A WALL? WHETHER IT'S UM LANDSCAPING OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE. YOU CAN ENCLOSE SOMETHING WHILE YOU WANT, BUT YOU CAN STAND 500 FT, AWAY FROM THE BUBBLE. COUNTRY CLUB WHEN THEY'RE PLAYING RACQUETBALL, AND YOU HEAR THE BALLS BANGING AROUND. IT DOESN'T MAKE A DIFFERENCE, AND THAT'S FULLY ENCLOSED. SO I THINK WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND FROM A SOUND PERSPECTIVE BEFORE WE TALK ABOUT GOING AHEAD WITH ROOFS AND OTHER
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THINGS. WE'VE HAD THESE PICKLEBALL COURTS FOR FIVE MONTHS, AND WE'RE ALREADY TALKING ABOUT WHAT WE NEVER HAD BEFORE, AND WE'RE ALREADY TALKING ABOUT PUTTING A ROOF ON IT. I THOUGHT WHEN WE ORIGINALLY DID THIS, THEY WERE GOING TO BE TOURNAMENTS AND POTENTIAL DONORS . IF WE WANTED TO DO ENHANCEMENTS. NOW THE WHOLE COST IS FALLING ON US AGAIN. SO I THINK TO SIT HERE AND SAY WE'RE GOING TO SPEND MONEY ON A ROOF FOR A FACILITY LIKE THAT WHEN WE POSTPONED THE VETERANS MEMORIAL, AND UNTIL WE FINISHED TAYLOR FARMS, WHICH AFFECTS THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY, NOT JUST PICK A BALL PLAYERS. I THINK WE SHOULDN'T LOOK AT PUTTING A ROOF ON IF YOU NEED SHADE, AND I'M ALL FOR PUTTING SHADE OUT THERE OVER THE SITTING AREAS. FOR $300,000. WE SHOULD DO THAT. BUT YOU RUN OUT AFTER FIVE MONTHS OR SOMETHING AND SAY, NOW WE'RE GOING TO BUILD A PERMANENT STRUCTURE. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHERE THAT'S THE HIGHEST PRIORITY NEED IN THE COMPANY IN THE COMMUNITY VERSUS OTHER PROJECTS. THAT WILL AFFECT ALL THE PEOPLE, NOT JUST PICKLE BALL PLAYERS. WE'RE GONNA HAVE A FIELD HOUSE. IT'S GOING TO HAVE INDOOR PICKLEBALL PLAY. WHATEVER LEVEL IT'S GOING TO BE WERE BUILT THERE. THEY'RE BUILDING A MAJOR STRUCTURE THERE, AND I THINK WE'RE RUNNING WAY AHEAD OF OURSELVES TO START PUTTING ROOFS ON BUILDINGS. WE DON'T PUT ROOFS ON BASKETBALL COURTS. WE DON'T PUT THEM ON TANA'S COURTS, BUT WE'RE GOING TO PUT THEM ON PICKLEBALL COURTS. AND I AND I HAVE TROUBLE SAYING YES TO SOMETHING LIKE THAT. WHEN WE AREN'T DOING THE VETERANS MEMORIAL AND MAYBE WE WILL DOWN THE ROAD. I DON'T KNOW, BUT I CAN'T LOOK PEOPLE IN THE EYE AND SAY IT'S MORE IMPORTANT THAT WE'RE DOING THAT AND POSTPONING VETERANS. SO I WOULDN'T EVEN ENTERTAIN A CONVERSATION ABOUT A ROOM IF YOU WANT. SHAY AND WE SHOULD PUT THE PANEL'S OVER THE SEATING AREAS THAT WILL RAIN AND SUN WHEN PEOPLE ARE PLAYING BUT AND I'M NOT AGAINST PICKLEBALL. BUT, UM AGAINST RUNNING OUT AND SPENDING ANOTHER MILLION SEVEN.TO DO THAT. THAT'S MY POINT OF VIEW JUST TO FILL IN A COUPLE OF BLANKS. JULY 20TH IS THE TOURNAMENT THAT WE HAVE SET UP FOR NEXT YEAR. THAT'S GREAT. LET'S SEE THE RESULTS BEFORE WE BUILD A BUILDING. THAT'S ALL. I'M SAYING THAT WE HAVEN'T SEEN ANY OF THAT. WE HAVEN'T SEEN DONOR MONEY WHEN YOU HAVE THAT, AND THEY CAN FUND PART OF THIS PROJECT. THEN WHAT DO WE FIND? BUT IN THIS, WE'RE FUNDING, ALL OF IT. RIGHT? I THINK IT'S PREMATURE TO DO THAT. MAY NOT BE A POPULAR OPINION, BUT I GOT TO SPEAK MY MIND. YES. GOOD POINTS. I DON'T THINK I THINK YOU SHOULD INVEST 300,000. BECAUSE THAT WOULD NOT HELP ANYTHING WITH THE SOUND. SO YOU'RE JUST THROWING YOUR MONEY AWAY. IF SOUND IS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO HELP HERE. I DON'T THINK THAT MAKES ANY SENSE. I THINK WE HAD ALWAYS PLANNED, ANNOYING US SHADE STRUCTURE FOR FOLKS THAT WEREN'T PLAYING, I THINK SOUNDS A SEPARATE ISSUE. THAT YEAH, I AGREE. PROBLEM, AGREED. UM. YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK THE ONLY SOLUTION TO IT ABATING. THE SOUND IS GOING TO BE THE ENCLOSE THE BUILDING. I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER OPTIONS THAT WE CAN EXPLORE FAR LESS. COSTLY. UM SO, YEAH, I DON'T WANT THE SHOOTING. GET YEAH, IN THE SAME BUCKET. IT'S THE SOUND MITIGATING SOUND AND THEN DO WE WANT TO CLOSE IT OR DO A SHADE STRUCTURE? I THINK WE CAN DO LOOK AT BOTH. EVEN INFORMALLY WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, TO THE EXTENT WE'RE GONNA PROVIDE COVERED COURTS, IT'S NOT LIKELY GOING TO BE ALL THE COURTS. SO EVEN IF I AGREE COVERING IT WAS THE PRESSURE'S IT'S NOT GONNA BE THE FULL ANSWER FOR THE SOUND MITIGATION. SO I AGREE WITH CASES WE DON'T SEPARATE THOSE TWO. AND THEN IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO DO THE FULL AND MY ESTIMATION. DO THE FULLS SHADE, WHICH REVIEWS THE TEMPORARY SHADE STRUCTURE IMPLEMENTATION, KNOWING THAT WE'RE STILL EVALUATING. COVERING HALF SUPPORTS. SO IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE WE DO THE SOUND MITIGATION EFFORTS. FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT WOULD BE TAKEN AND GET THAT. AS A PRIORITY SHADE SECOND ON THE HALF OF THE COURSE WE'RE NOT THINKING ABOUT COVERING AND THE LAST HALF TO KEEP LOOKING AT WHAT THAT PERMANENT STRUCTURE MAY LOOK LIKE. WELL, IT GIVES US SOME ADDITIONAL TIME TO FUNDRAISING GAINS ADDITIONAL COMMUNITY SUPPORT. YEAH, I HAVE TO SAY I'M LEANING MUCH MORE TOWARDS MIKE. AS I'M LISTENING TO THIS AND IT'S I MEAN, I I'M GONNA GO PLAY PICKLEBALL OVER AN UPPER ARLINGTON ALL WINTER, AND IT'S PAIN IN THE BUTT WOULD MUCH RATHER BE PLAYING OVER HERE. BUT I'M NOT SURE THAT AH! I'M NOT SURE THAT RIGHT NOW IS THE TIME FOR US TO TAKE THAT MUCH MONEY
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AND FINISH OFF THIS PROJECT. I THINK WE SHOULD DO THE SOUND MITIGATION. I THINK WE SHOULD SEE WHAT THIS COMING YEAR BRINGS US. IN TERMS OF ALL THESE OTHER PROJECTS THAT HAVE JUST BEEN PUT ON HOLD AND WHERE WE ARE AND WHAT IS A PRIORITY FOR US. AND, UM. YEAH I MEAN, I THINK THERE IS A PUBLIC PERCEPTION WAS OUT THERE A LITTLE BIT IN TERMS OF WHAT? WHY DO WE NEED TO INVEST ALL THIS RIGHT HERE? I WOULD LOVE TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS WITH PARKS AND RECS WITH THE FIELD MOUSE. WHAT'S GOING ON OVER THERE? WHAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO BE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET? MAYBE WE DO A TOURNAMENT TO YOU, NO MATTER THE TOURNAMENT THAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO. MAYBE THAT RAISES A WHOLE BUNCH OF MONEY. AND THAT GIVES US A WHOLE LOT MORE SUPPORT. I'M JUST NOT SURE WHY WE NEED TO RUSH FOR THIS WINTER. NOT SURE THE TIMING IS RIGHT AND THAT JUMP TO ANOTHER TOPIC. BUT AT SOME POINT, I THINK WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT RESTAURANT FACILITIES. I THINK WE ALL RECOGNIZE WHEN WE BUILD SOMETHING. THAT HAS THIS MUCH. CAPACITY AND DEMAND WITHOUT PUTTING A RESTROOM. THERE'S MAYBE A LITTLE SHORTSIGHTED, SO I DON'T WANT YOU ANY ISSUE WITHT GROUP 100 PEOPLE WEEK IN THE SUMMER MHM ISSUE WITH RESTROOM FOR WHAT THE PARKS WAS GOING TO BUILD, WHICH WOULD HAVE BEEN A NICE FACILITY, WHICH WAS BOTH RESTROOMS AND THE OTHER PARKS.NOT MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT MAN. VOLUME. THAT'S A DEFINITE THAT'S FROM THE DEFINITE. IT'S TOO BAD. SO THERE'S A POSSIBILITY IF WE PUT SOME SORT OF COVERAGE STRUCTURE THERE. WE MAY ACTUALLY EXTENDED FURTHER TO THE EAST TO ALSO ENCAPSULATES SOME SORT OF RESTROOM FACILITY THAT WAS THE THOUGHT. YEAH. BASKETBALL. YEAH. YEAH, OKAY. THAT WOULD BE THE WESTSIDE APOLOGIZE. YES YES. LAST YEAR. WHY WOULDN'T YOU JUST PUT IN RESTAURANTS? WHY DO YOU HAVE TO EXTEND THE ROOF? WELL I MEAN, I THESE RESTROOMS. I MEAN, THE PRICE POINT THAT WE SAW WAS JUST MIND BLOWING TO ME. I MEAN, HOW MUCH? I JUST, UH IT WAS LIKE $700,000, THROUGH WHICH AGAIN. I THINK IF IT'S PART OF THE LARGER . STRUCTURE AND PROJECT. IT MIGHT IT MIGHT MITIGATE. SOME OF THE COPS CAN BE NICE TO STILL PARTNERED WITH THE PARTS ON SOMETHING. YEAH. OKAY BUT ARE THEY INTERESTED IN PARTNERING WITH US? I THOUGHT THAT SAYING THEY'RE OUT THERE NOW. BUT WHO KNOWS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IN TIME? THEIR THEIR CONCERN WAS THE AMOUNT OF MONEY. LET'S GOING INTO THIS REC CENTER. THEY AND UNTIL THIS THING IS COMPLETED. THEY WERE NOT INTERESTING BECAUSE OF THE COMMITMENT THAT THEY HAVE THAT WAY. THAT'S NOT A . IT'S NOT UNFAIR. NO NO, BUT BUT AGAIN. I KIND OF GO BACK TO. SO WHAT EXACTLY ARE WE GOING TO HAVE OVER THERE TOO? WE GONNA HAVE SOME REDUNDANCY IF WE DO THIS AND COVER IT AND THEN CLOSING I MEAN, THEY'RE NOT GONNA PICKLE BALL. OF COURSE NOT. BUT YOU JUST SAID WE'RE NOT GONNA COVERAGE BOTH RIGHT? GREAT COVER EIGHT. WE HAVE 16 CURRENT YEAR. YEAH. OKAY SO I FEEL LIKE WE'RE JUST CHASED OURSELVES AROUND THE ROOM AND ATTACKED THE ONES UP. UM, YEAH, AGAIN. THIS IS THE BUDGETING PROCESS. THIS DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE'RE GOING TO DECIDE TODAY PROJECT IS BUT WE HAVE TO HAVE SOME DIRECTIONS STAFF TO PLAN THE YEAR. UM. WE HAVE WE HAVE THE MONEY, ARGUABLY. TO DO ALL THE PROJECTS. AS YOU SAID YOU'D BRING YOUNG. NO. UM I THINK JOE IS KINDLY INDICATED THAT MAYBE WE SHOULD PARE DOWN THE LIST BECAUSE IT'S FROM THE STAFF STANDPOINT, IT'S GONNA BE DIFFICULT TO BED OUT AND WORK ON THE SUPERVISOR COMPLETE ALL THOSE PROJECTS. SO EVERYONE AGREES THAT THE SOUND MITIGATION LANDSCAPING AND SOME ELEMENT OF SHADE. PROVISION HAS TO BE THE PRIORITY FOR PICKLEBALL IN THE SHORT TERM. NOW THE ANYONE DISAGREEING WITH THAT, RIGHT, SO THAT'S A CLEAR DIRECTION OF STAFF. YEP IT'S GOING IN NOW. $150,000 WORTH OF RELOCATED SOME OF THE TREES TO HELP TRY TO PREVENT SOME OF THE SOUTH. CAN WE GO BACK TO THE JOINT PARTS AND SAY WE CAN THROW SOME MORE? MAYBE THROW SOME MORE MONEY TOWARDS THAT STRUCTURE. TO HELP THEM IF THEY'RE WILLING TO BRING YOU NOT COMPLETELY SAY NO TO GOING THAT STRUCTURE, BUT GIVE THEM MORE MONEY. SAID IT JUST THE $600,000. MAYBE WE GIVE THEM MORE. AND THEY CAN BRING IN MORE
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MONEY SO COMPLETE THAT ONE STRUCTURE THEIR PLAN. I MEAN, MY ONLY FEEDBACK ON THAT WAS WE'RE GOING TO LET'S SAY WE'RE GONNA RAISE IT. FROM 650 CONTRIBUTION THIS STATE 750,000, AND NOW WE'RE YOU KNOW OUR WHOLE STRUCTURE, PICKLE BALL SHAPED STRUCTURE, WHICH I THINK THAT 1.7 MILLION IS THE MORE COMPLETE TOTAL COVERAGE. PROBABLY MORE. TO 200 DOESN'T INCLUDE THE BUILDING. NO IT'S NOT TO DO THE COURTS COVERED US TO ENCUMBER THAT. 369 AND AGAIN I DON'T.COULD BE TOTALLY WRONG. I'M GOING TO ASSUME THAT IF YOU ARE BUILDING A STRUCTURE AND DOING CONSTRUCTION OF THAT MAGNITUDE THAT PUTTING A RESTAURANT FACILITY UNDER THE ROOF THAT YOU'RE GOING TO PROVIDE, JUST GOTTA BE CHEAPER IN THE 7000 PER HOLE. EXISTING WHOLE THING. I'M SURE YOU'RE RIGHT. YEAH THEY WERE BAD. BUILD LIKE A SHELTER. NICE, GREAT STUFF. BUT THAT WASN'T THIS BUT THAT WASN'T THE CITY. THAT WAS OUR PART. 100,006 600 WAS GOING TO DO WELL, THAT'S RIGHT. I MEAN, I'M SURE YOU'RE RIGHT. I'M SURE YOU GET YOU KNOW. OKAY YEAH. I THINK I HAVE DIRECTIONS, SO WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO PROCEED WITH SOME TYPE OF SOUND MITIGATION ANALYSIS COME BACK TO COUNCIL WITH THE RESULTS OF THAT. AND THEN BASED ON THAT WE CAN DECIDE WHAT TO DO. IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE IS SOME INTEREST IN SOME TYPE OF SHADE. AT LEAST EDITH COURTS OR THE SPACE BETWEEN THE EIGHT COURTS. AH AND IF IT'S GOING TO BE MORE OF A SHORT TERM DURATION, THEN WE WANT TO GO LESS EXPENSIVE THAN MORE EXPENSIVE. SO IF IT HAS A LIFE EXPECTANCY OF 24 MONTHS OR 36 MONTHS, OR VERSUS SOMETHING THAT'S MADE THE LAST FOR 7 TO 10 YEARS, THAT'S PROBABLY PREFERABLE. YEAH AND I THINK ALSO WANT TO CUT DOWN ON THE AMOUNT OF TOUCH POINTS FOR STAFF . AND THEN WE'RE PUTTING OUT LAWN CHAIRS AND UMBRELLAS.
THAT'S A LOT OF MANPOWER. SO KEEP THAT IN MIND AS WELL THAT THAT'S A COST THAT CAN'T BE IGNORED. MHM THE MAJORITY OF COUNCIL THINKS THAT IN THE NEXT YEAR TO TWO YEARS WE ARE GOING TO DO A COVER FULL INDOOR BUILDING OVER AT LEAST HALF OF THESE COURTS, THEN MAYBE WE GO BACK TO JUST DOING IT AND NOT IF PEOPLE FEEL THAT STRONGLY THERE IS SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO DO IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE. ARE WE WASTING MONEY BY DOING IT PIECEMEAL NOW, WITH STUFF THAT WE THROW AWAY? WE HAVE THIS EXACT SAME DISCUSSION A YEAR AGO. RIGHT YEAH. AND. YOU KNOW EARLIER. I DON'T THINK THERE'S CONSENSUS, THOUGH, THAT WE'VE MOVED FORWARD WITH THE BUILDING.
A COUNCIL. I'M GETTING A SENSE OF THAT SO I GUESS THE IN IN MY YOU KNOW, IN MY HEAD. IN THE PROCESS OF DEVELOPING FANTASTIC INDOOR FACILITY LITERALLY ACROSS THE STREET THAT POTENTIALLY COULD SERVE. I'M NOT SAYING IT CHECKS ALL THE BOXES AND YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT LIKE A PICKLE BALL SPECIFIC FACILITY, BUT I ENVISION ON WEEKDAYS INDOOR TRACK. HAVING PICKLEBALL COURTS SET UP ON A FAIRLY DAILY BASIS THAT PEOPLE CAN USE IN THE WINTERTIME. UM, YOU KNOW, I DON'T. THAT WOULD BE A QUESTION FOR YEAH. YEAH THE ISSUE OF REDUNDANCY DOES COME UP. UM, BUT I GUESS THERE'S JUST QUESTION MARKS. UM AND I'VE GOT NO PROBLEM, LEAVING THE 1.7 AS A PLACEHOLDER IN THE BUDGET, AND THEN WE DECIDED YEAH. GO FORWARD. YEAH. WOULD BE OKAY WITH THEM. THE WAY IT'S SET UP TODAY THAT STRUCTURE WOULD BE CONSIDERED IN 2025 ARE PART OF THE 2025 BUDGETS, SO THAT GIVES US 2024 COULD DO SOME OF THE SOUTHERN ANALYSIS AND PLANNING AND GET COUNSELED FEEDBACK. GET READY BEFORE IT BASICALLY, AND THEN MAYBE BY THE TIME WE APPROVE IT, WE HAVE SOME OF THESE OTHER THINGS LIKE MICHAEL'S CONCERNED ABOUT RESOLVED, ANY STRUCTURE WILL BE A YEAR OUT. JUST KNOW WE DECIDED TODAY TO SAY YOU KNOW WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO A BUILDING IT WOULDN'T BE UNTIL JANUARY OF 20. FIVE THAT WOULD EVEN BE OPEN ON ANY STRUCTURE UNDER A TIMELINE. WE COMMITTED TO PEOPLE THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS BY A CERTAIN DATE. OKAY, WELL THEN. 25 OF THE SAME ISSUE WHEN WE'RE BUILDING A ROAD WHEN WE'RE DOING TAYLOR FARMS, WE CAN AGREE ON SOMETHING, BUT IT TAKES A YEAR OR WHATEVER TO GET IT DONE. IT'S TRUE. THANKS. TAKE TIME. YEAH. WE MADE GOOD PROGRESS. IF I CAN MAKE IT A SUGGESTION, IT'S SOMETHING THAT MAYBE YOU KEEP THE BUDGET HOW IT IS, AND THEN WE RECONSIDER AT MIDYEAR. IT'S
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SOMETHING THAT YOU NEED TO MOVE. AGREE AGREE ON THAT. I AGREE. I THINK THAT'S MAYBE WHERE WE'RE AT. SO THERE ARE ANY OTHER PROJECTS THAT WEREN'T FURTHER CONVERSATION AND I THINK WE.DIGESTED. THESE TALKED ABOUT THEM A LOT OF THE COUNCIL RETREAT. I THINK ALL THE OTHER PROJECTS ON THERE. EXACTLY WHAT'S TOO FAR COMMITTED AS A PRIORITY AND THE GREEN AND YELLOW. THE ONLY ONE. I DON'T KNOW WHETHER IT FALLS UNDER CAPITAL, BUT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT SECURITY SYSTEM CAMERAS, ETCETERA FOR TAYLOR FARMS AND ROSE RUN. THOSE ARE CLEARLY PERMANENT STRUCTURES. PERMANENT INVESTMENTS. SHOULD WE HAVE SOMETHING IN THERE FOR THAT, BECAUSE THERE'S PEOPLE ARE GOING TO USE THAT FOR AND MORE I THINK WE HAVE TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY. AT LEAST HAVE THE CAMERA WILL BE PART OF THE GENERAL FUND. OKAY TRY TO CAPITAL WE HAVE WE HAVE TO TAILOR WHERE THE TAYLOR FARMS STAGE STRUCTURE. IS THAT OUT BY THE PLAYGROUND? YES YEAH, THAT IS SO THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN RIGHT AWAY. IT'S SO POPULAR OUT THERE.
YEAH IT REALLY IS AMAZING. SO IS THAT SOMETHING YOU'D LIKE TO MOVE UP INTO 2024? WELL WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ONE THAT'S ALREADY UP THERE. THE ONE THAT'S THE TOP ONE IN THE GREEN SUGAR RUN, SO YOU'RE ASKING ABOUT THE SHADE STRUCTURE? PASTOR MINUS 250. IS THAT THE PLAYGROUND SHADE STRUCTURE? YEAH THAT'S THE PLAYGROUND SHADE STRUCTURE IN THE GREEN CATEGORY IN THE YELLOW YELLOW CATEGORY, WHERE IT SAYS TAYLOR FIRM PICNIC SHELTER, THAT WOULD BE A NEW ADDITION THAT WOULD CREATE SOME COVERED AREAS FOR VENTURES AND PICNIC TABLES. WHERE WOULD THAT BE STILL OUT THAT WAY? PROBABLY. I MEAN, WE DON'T THE ONLY PLACE WE HAVE FLEXIBILITY TO DO THAT IS KIND OF NORTH AND WEST OF THE PLAYGROUND. OKAY YEAH, THE AVIARY VIEWING SHELTER. WHATEVER YOU CALL THAT IT'S COOL. IT'S VERY COLD AND BE A GREAT SHAPE, SAME DESIGN TYPE ELEMENTS OVER BY THE PLAYER. I THINK WE'D WANT IT TO BE COMPLEMENTARY WITH SO WHAT? THERE'S THAT STRUCTURE.
THERE'S ANOTHER SHAPE STRUCTURE AND PHASE TWO. UM AND THEN WE HAVE THE BATHROOM, THE RESTROOM AND THE EQUIPMENT BUILDING. I THINK WE WOULD WANT TO KEEP IT ALL WITHIN THE SAME AESTHETIC.
CAN YOU REMIND US WITH THE ADDITIONAL PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT AT THREE PLAYGROUNDS? YOU THAT WAS AMENDMENT WE PRESENTED AT THE CAPITOL WORKSHOP THAT YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE FEEDBACK WE'VE GOTTEN ON PLAYGROUNDS IS THAT THERE'S NOT ENOUGH EQUIPMENT OPTION FOR OLDER KIDS AND PARKS.
YEAH THIS WOULD ADD. YEAH KIND OF CLIMBING EQUIPMENT FOR OLDER KIDS THAT POCKET PARTS. I WOULD LOVE TO MOVE THAT ONE UP. THAT'S LIKE NOT A LOT OF MONEY AND YOU KNOW, GET IT. WE JUST REDID ALL THE PARTS AND WE FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO DO A LITTLE BIT MORE. I THINK WE OUGHT TO JUST FINISHED.
WOULD THAT BE ASSIGNED TO DO YOU KNOW, OR JUST? LAMPTON. UM YEAH. SO I'VE WON ONE SPACE. YEAH SO WE'VE LOOKED AT DIFFERENT OPTIONS AT DIFFERENT PARTS. SO UM, BUT WE'VE LOOKED AT LAMBTON UH, BYINGTON, JAMES RIVER. UM WE'VE KIND OF LOOKED AT ALL OF THEM TO SEE IF THEIR DEVI ABILITY ASSUMPTION HAS THE GREAT CLIMBER SO I THINK THAT ACTUALLY IS A GREAT PARK FOR OLDER KIDS BECAUSE OF THAT ROPE CLIMBER THAT THAT IS THERE. WOULD BE ADDING MORE THINGS LIKE THAT TO THE OTHER POCKETS. OKAY, THANKS. ALL OF THEM ARE VERY POPULAR IN MALTON. USED. JOE. TO THE EXTENT THAT WE HAVE STAFF CAPACITY. I MEAN, I I'M JUST AGREE WITH MARLENE. IF WE CAN DO IT NEXT YEAR, GREAT. THOSE SHOULD BE PRETTY EASY TO PUT THEIR SAY THAT NOT FOR YOU. I'M KIND OF THINKING WE ALREADY JUST REDID THEM. IF WE'RE GOING TO ADD TO THEM, LET'S HAVE IT ALL AGE TOGETHER. QUITE HONESTLY. YEAH. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? YEAH. WE HAVE SUCH A GREAT RELATIONSHIP WITH WITH THE VENDOR. YEAH THEY ACTUALLY SWINGS FOR BUDGETARY FOR A BUDGETARY EXERCISE. THEY HAVE SCOPED OUT SOME POSSIBLE EQUIPMENT. AND SO YOU KNOW, WE HAD TO DO A LITTLE BIT OF WORK JUST TO BACK INTO A NUMBER FOR YOU, UM, SO IT PROBABLY ISN'T AS MUCH. BUT AS YOU KNOW, WE ALWAYS COME UP WITH SOME OF MONS EXPECTED CHALLENGE. IT SEEMS JOE. WHEN DO WE MAKE UNDER THE TRAFFIC, CALMING IMPLICATION DESIGN. WHEN DO WE? WHEN DOES THAT PLAN GET TO PUT TOGETHER? WHEN DO YOU JUST WHEN DO WE DECIDE? THESE ARE THE STREETS? THIS IS THE AREA. THESE ARE THE ELEMENTS OR THE COMING. YOU KNOW WHAT WHETHER THEY'RE GOING TO BE TRAFFIC, CALMING ISLANDS OR JUST SPEED SIGN. WHATEVER. WHEN DO WE? HOW DOES THAT GET BUILT UP? SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE CONSULTANTS SHOULD HAVE SOMETHING FINISHED SHORTLY AND THEN IT WOULD BE UP TO THE STAFF
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TO BRING SOMETHING BACK TO COUNCIL AND SAY THESE, THIS IS THE MENU OF TRAFFIC, CALMING, UM , DEVICES THESE MAYBE SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE SPECIFIC ROADS AND THEN HAVING PRIORITIZED THE ROADS WHERE YOU WANT TO IMPLEMENT THOSE SOLUTIONS. SIMILAR QUESTION. ON THE 605 DROPPING. SO WE'VE BUDGETED THE 100,000 FOR 2024. DOES THAT BY PRESUMPTION MEAT.WE CAN'T START UNTIL 2025. NO I IDEALLY IF WE CAN, IF WE CAN GET THE PROJECT DESIGN LIKE TO TRY TO BUILD IT, UM IT'S AS MUCH AS THE TOP BUILDING CONSTRUCTIONS, AND I'M SORRY. OKAY DESIGNS LESS OF HER PRIORITY THAN IT ACTUALLY IS HOW IT ENDED UP DO IDEALLY WHEN I SAW JUST THE DESIGN.
IDEALLY I'D LIKE TO DO IT DO IT DURING THE SUMMER MONTHS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. IT MAY OVERLAP A LITTLE BIT. OKAY OKAY. I FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE NOW. THANK YOU. NEGOTIATIONS PROCEEDING WITH THE SCHOOL ON THAT, OR AH. SO YOU? YEAH IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE I LAST HAD A CONVERSATION WITH MICHAEL. BUT I WANT TO RAISE IT AGAIN, ALL RIGHT? AND THEN THE GREAT QUARTERLY TASK FORCE MEETING, WOULDN'T IT? BUT THIS HMM. ANY ANY OTHER THOUGHTS ABOUT TAYLOR. PHASE THREE. HOW ARE YOU COMFORTABLE WITH IT WHERE IT IS? JOE, IF I MAY. CAN I GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE BECAUSE THERE'S SOME UPDATES ON THERE FOR SOME OF THOSE PROJECTS, OKAY? DO YOU WANT TO GO TO TAYLOR? THREE IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? FOR MHM? UM. FIRST I'LL TALK ABOUT WINDSOR. WE HAD IT IN THERE. FOR I HAVE TO REMIND MYSELF YOU HAD 500,000 AND THERE'S BEEN SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, ADDITIONAL PLANNING THAT, UH HAS GIVEN US. AN ESTIMATE GREATER THAN THAT, SO WE HAVE INCREASED THAT TO 750,000. WE HAVE ALSO IF YOU NOTICED ON YOUR CAPITAL BUDGET IN LINE EIGHT WE HAD IMPLEMENTED. THE ABILITY TO HAVE . YOU KNOW, DISCRETIONARY BUCKET LAST YEAR FOR ANY MISCELLANEOUS SOFT COSTS THAT WERE NOT CONSIDERED WITHIN THE CAPITAL BUDGET AT THE TIME OF APPROVAL, BUT THEN ALSO ANY POTENTIAL CHANGE ORDERS TO PROJECTS THAT WERE GOING ON FROM PREVIOUS YEARS. UM WE ARE LOOKING TO POTENTIALLY INCREASE THAT, UH, FOR 2024 TO A MILLION DOLLARS INSTEAD OF 200,000. AND THAT WOULD HELP TO, UM, CONSIDER THE REWORK POTENTIAL REWORK OF ROSE RUN TO AND DIFFERENT ELEMENTS OF THAT PLANNING. UM BUT THEN ALSO CONTINUE THAT MISCELLANEOUS INCREASED. DROP IT DOWN BACK DOWN THE 500,000 FOR EACH YEAR.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT ALLOWS US THE ABILITY TO UM. YOU KNOW THERE ARE POTENTIAL CHANGE ORDERS TO DIFFERENT PROJECTS THAT WE'VE HAD, WHERE WE DON'T WANT TO USE THE BUDGET FROM THE CURRENT YEAR IN ORDER TO ALLOW FOR THOSE CHANGES TO HAPPEN, UM, BUT THAT WAS THE BUCKET THAT WEEK JUST FOR NEXT YEAR AND THEN DOWN TO 500 YEARS. YES, AND THAT'S JUST RUN TO. THAT'S WHAT THE SUGGESTION ONES AND THEN THE TAYLOR FARM PHASE THREE. WE HAD THAT CONCEPT DEVELOPMENT THE PLANNED IN 2025, AND THERE IS A LOT OF LEGWORK. ADRIAN CAN PROBABLY SPEAK TO IT MORE, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF LEG WORK THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN EVEN BEFORE WE GET TO THE CONCEPT DESIGN, AND SO WE ARE, UM PROPOSING TO AMEND THAT AND MOVE THAT BUDGET FROM 500,000 TO A MILLION AND BRING IT INTO 2024 TO START ON THAT YOU DON'T NEED OUR INPUT IN TERMS OF TAILORED FARM BECAUSE THIS IS REALLY WHAT YOU NEED TO DO IN TERMS OF NEXT STEPS FOR TAYLOR FARMING 24. YEAH I DON'T SO PART OF THIS IS JUST CREATING SOME REALISTIC EXPECTATIONS ON TIMEFRAME. SO MORE THAN ANYTHING, I THINK IT'S KNOWING THAT TAYLOR FARMS THREE IS A PRIORITY FOR COUNCIL BECAUSE SOMETIMES WHEN WE TAGGED THESE PROJECTS IN A YEAR WE'RE STARTING FROM SCRATCH, AND IT TAKES LONGER, SOMETIMES LONGER THAN A YEAR, EVEN TO ACHIEVE SOMETHING. SO IF TAYLOR FARMS THREE IS A PRIORITY, THEN THERE'S A LOT OF ADVANCED WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE, YOU KNOW, JUST FOUNDATIONAL QUESTIONS AND DECISIONS THAT NEED TO BE MADE ABOUT WHO'S GOING TO LOCATE
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THERE. WHAT ARE THE PROGRAMMING NEEDS IF IT'S A DIFFERENT ORGANIZATION? UM WHAT'S THAT STRUCTURE OF AN AGREEMENT WITH THE WITH THE PARTNER LOOKED LIKE THAT WOULD NEED TO BE DONE BEFORE WE COULD EVEN START TO SPEND MONEY ON CONCEPT OR FEASIBILITY DESIGN. AND SO I THINK MORE THAN ANYTHING, IT'S UNDERSTANDING. IF THIS IS A PRIORITY DATE DO TAYLOR FARM PEAS THREE FOR COUNCIL IN THE FUTURE, KNOWING THAT NOW HELPS US KIND OF LAY THE FOUNDATION SO WE'LL BE PREPARED. UM YOU KNOW, MAYBE TOWARDS THE END OF THIS YEAR, DEPENDING ON HOW FAST DECISIONS CAN BE MADE, BUT ALSO INTO THE NEXT YEAR TO REALLY, UM , BE PREPARED TO HIT THE GROUND RUNNING ON DESIGN CONCEPT, UM, BUT THAT THAT MILLION DOLLARS IS STRICTLY SOFT COST DESIGNING COSTS. THAT'S RIGHT. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S WHAT IS HOW MUCH IS NEEDED? I THINK THERE'LL BE SOME SPECIALIZED. UM DESIGN PROFESSIONALS NEEDED FOR THIS IN TERMS OF EVERY RELOCATING A BAR AND EVERY NOT. ARE WE DOING A HISTORIC RENOVATION? OR IS IT UM YOU KNOW, A REHABILITATION DOING WHOEVER IS USING THAT BUILDING DO THEY NEED TO ADD ON TO IT? THOSE ARE ALL FUNDAMENTAL QUESTIONS WE NEED TO ASK AND GET SOME ANSWERS BEFORE EVEN KNOW KIND OF WHAT THE DESIGN COSTS ARE GOING TO BE. AND WITHOUT THAT, YOU DON'T YOU GO BACK AND SLIDE. THOSE OTHER NUMBERS REALLY DON'T MEAN ANYTHING YET ANYWAY. YEAH THERE. THERE ARE BEST ESTIMATE AT THIS TIME BASED ON WHAT WE THINK OF WE'VE TALKED TO THE BARN MOVER. YOU KNOW WHAT THAT MIGHT COST, BUT, YOU KNOW, GETTING WE HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING ABOUT THE HOUSE OTHER THAN ASSESSING ITS CURRENT CONDITION.BUT WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO SERVE THE NEEDS OF YOU KNOW, EVEN IF IT WAS CITY OFFICES WE REALLY NEED TO DIG INTO THAT. WOULD YOU ESTIMATE THAT THE PASTRY COULD BE DONE IN 2026 3? TRY TO BUY SEVEN UM. I WOULD PREFER TO NOT ANSWER THAT. ENJOY LET US LIKE START TO ANSWER SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS OUT. I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S FEASIBLE. I THINK A LOT OF THIS DECISION MAKING AND MAKING DECISIONS ABOUT DO WE WANT TO GO THIS DIRECTION OR NOT, AND THAT'S WHAT USUALLY ENDS UP TAKING THE LONGEST TIME WE CAN DO THE WORK, USUALLY SIX MONTHS. YEAH WHAT ABOUT THE SCOPE? THERE'S A RANGE IN SCOPE, ESPECIALLY IN THIS THAT YEAH, IT COULD BE A I MEAN, HECK, IF WE DECIDE TO NOT MOVE THE BARN AND JUST PUT SOME LIPSTICK ON THE BUILDING NEXT YEAR, LIKE IF WE GET INTO IT, THEN IT COULD BE A TWO OR THREE. YEAH. INTERESTING TO SEE HOW THAT PLEASE. DO YOU MIND GOING BACK TO THE GREEN YELLOW? THANK YOU. SO WHAT YOU'RE KIND OF SAYING IS YOU NEED A MILLION DOLLARS TO DO THIS PART OF THE TAYLOR FARM THING AND TAKE THE TAILORED FARM PICNIC SHELTER UNTIL ER FARM THREE OUT OF THERE FOR AN HOUR TO PICNIC SHELTER. COMPLETELY INDEPENDENT OF THAT. THE PICNIC SHELTER IS INDEPENDENT OF THAT. IT IS IN 2025 FOR 400,000. OKAY SO IT'S A PART OF A STRICTLY TAILORED FIRM, THREE TRUNK OF THIS YEAH. JUST TALKING ABOUT THE TAILOR SHELTER. WHAT? IS IT A SHELTER TO PHASE TWO OR JUST KIND OF AN ACT? SO THE PICNIC PICNIC SHELTER IS AN ADD ON, UM, AFTER YOU AND I TOURED THE PARK. YEAH THERE IS NO. TWO AND WHAT BAITS TO SHOULD BE DONE IN 28. THE END OF 2024 SPRINT 2025. YES SO THE GOAL IS TO OPEN UP THE GARDENS AND RESTROOM BUILDING AND EQUIPMENT SHELTER. UM MAY 1 OF THIS YEAR IS THE CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULE FOR THE GARDENS AND THEN BOARDWALKS. ADDITIONAL BOARDWALKS WILL BE IN THE SUMMER OF 24 AND THEN THE FINAL PLANTINGS WILL WAIT UNTIL THE FALL OF 24 INTO LIKE SPRING OF 25, JUST DEPENDING ON PLANT AVAILABILITY, AND, UM, THE PLANTING WINDOW. GOOD. THAT'S GREAT. WHAT ABOUT THE RAILING? SO WE DO WE GET ANY UPDATE ON THE RAILINGS? RAILINGS ARE STILL QUITE A WAYS OUT. I THINK IT'S WORTH THINK WE'RE LOOKING AT APRIL FOR THE, UM PHASE ONE BOARDWALK. THE CLOSED AREA THAT ISN'T ISN'T CLOSED. CLOSED UM, I THINK WE'RE STILL LOOKING AT APRIL OF 24. SO WHAT WOULD BE YOUR ASK THEN, IN TERMS OF THE FROM US YOU ASKING US TO GIVE YOU THE MILLIONS OF THOSE IN RELATION TO TAYLOR? UM I THINK MY ASK IS YOU KNOW IT'S A PRIORITY FOR COUNSEL TO DO A PHASE THREE SO WE CAN START THIS PREP WORK AND HAVING THE MILLION
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IS UM. COULD BE BENEFICIAL TO ADVANCE THAT IF WE KIND OF ANSWER THESE FUN, FOUNDATIONAL QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT'S THE SCOPE OF THIS PROJECT. UM IF YOU WANT TO PUT THAT OUT TO 25. THAT WOULD BE FINE. I THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF THIS IS JUST KNOWING THERE'S A COMMITMENT.KNOWING THAT THAT'S GOING TO HAVE TO HAPPEN WHERE YOU HAVE TO STUDY IT, AND WE NEED TO MAKE AN ASSESSMENT. BUT KNOWING THAT'S A PARTY FOR COUNCIL ALLOWS US TO START THAT WORK. DO YOU HAVE THE MANPOWER TO DO? THE PICNIC SHELTER. AND THE FARMHOUSE AND BARN RELOCATION OR I'M SORRY. NO I TAKE IT BACK PICNIC SHELTER, THE FEASIBILITY STUDY. FOR 33 AND THE ADDITIONAL PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT NEXT YEAR. UM ALONG WITH EVERYTHING IN GREEN OR IS THAT DO WE NEED TO TELL YOU WHICH OF THOSE THINGS COUPLE WEEKS AGO, MY 2024 OPENED UP QUITE A BIT. SO UM, I HAVE SOME CAPACITY AND NOTES. I MEAN, SOME OF THOSE THINGS THAT TAYLOR FIRM SHADE STRUCTURE. WE HAVE A VENDOR. WE KNOW WE KIND OF KNOW WHAT THAT IS, UM THE PICNIC IN THE YELLOW? YEAH, THE PICNIC SHELTER THAT'S COMPLETELY NEW. WE HAVEN'T DONE ANY WORK ON WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE WHAT THAT COST.
WHAT ARE WE WOULD PROBABLY I GUESS WE WOULD PROBABLY DO IS TO TRY TO MAKE THAT THAT A CHANGE ORDER TO OUR DAYS TO CONTRACT WITH MR CONSTRUCTION AFTER WE HAVE TO DO A LITTLE BIT OF DESIGN WHERE IT COULD HAVE THEM ESTIMATED. SO I THINK WE COULD TAG THAT ONTO THAT PROJECT, IF THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE THE MOST EFFICIENT WAY TO DO THAT. GOOD NEWS.
IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE IN THE BOAT TONIGHT, BUT KIND OF A GENERAL. HAD NOT. WE CAN ADJUST THE NUMBERS ACCORDINGLY, SO THAT YOU'LL HAVE SOMETHING ACCURATE THE VOTE ON AND, UH AT THE DECEMBER 5TH MEETING. OKAY ANYWAY, AGREE ON ALL THE NUMBERS RIGHT? THERE'S NO THE SPILL, GIVEN THE PICKLE BALL, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE NOT CLEAR ON IT YET WE STILL WANT TO KEEP THE MONEY THERE. FOR NOW, SO, YEAH, OKAY. THESE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE DIFFERENT FROM WHAT'S IN THE BUDGET BUGS. SO THOSE WERE THE THINGS THAT I WOULD BE CHANGING FOR THE SECOND READING AND FOR THE BUDGET APPROVAL, AND SO THERE'S A HEAD NOT DIDN'T WANT AN AGREEMENT. MHM. I'M FINE.
OKAY? UM SO BE IT. I GUESS WE KIND OF COVERED ALL OF THIS, ACTUALLY, UM, SO THE DIRECTION REQUESTED WE WILL BE, UM, PUTTING IN THE VILLAGE CENTER AND ADJUSTING OR FOR THOSE, AND THEN WE'LL COMPLETE UM AND UTILIZE THOSE NUMBERS THAT I HAD IN THERE. IS THERE ANY OTHER CONVERSATION ON CAPITOL UM THAT YOU GUYS WOULD LIKE TO HAVE. OKAY? SO I AM GONNA, UM YOU GUYS REALLY DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT AND YOUR BUDGET ANY LONGER, BUT YOUR BUDGET STARTS ON PAGE 133.
I CAN. UM BUT THE ACTUAL UH. AMOUNTS. ARE IN 136 BELIEVE, AND SO THE MAIN THINGS THAT, UM WITHIN YOUR BUDGET WE HAVE INCLUDED THE COLA ADJUSTMENT FOR 3% THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE HAVE IN THERE FOR OTHER UM, 36. IT MIGHT BE OFF A PAGE FROM MIND PAGES INTENTIONALLY BLANK 1 37 1 36. SO I UPDATED YEARBOOKS TO LOOK A LITTLE BIT BETTER WITH BLANK PAGES SO MINE MIGHT BE A PAGE OFF. UM. SO YEAH. SO THIS BUDGET, UH CONTEMPLATES THE 3% FOR CITY COUNCIL? UM AS WELL AS STAFF WITHIN YOUR BUDGET. UM ONE THING THAT I WANTED TO JUST BRING YOUR ATTENTION TO AGAIN BACK IN 2022. WE MOVED THE EVENTS AND COMMUNITY INVESTMENT PROGRAMMING OUT OF YOUR BUDGET, AND SO YOU WILL SEE A SIGNIFICANT DECREASE FROM 21 TO 22. UM BUT THE BUDGET HAS, UM.
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PRIMARILY STAYED ABOUT THE SAME FOR YOU IN 2020. FOR ONE THING THAT I WANTED TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON ITEMS THAT ARE NOW LOCATED WITHIN THE COMMUNITY INVESTMENT BUDGET. UM AND WE DID NOT TALK ABOUT THEM EXTENSIVELY AT THE DEPARTMENT MEETING BECAUSE THEY'RE ITEMS THAT YOU GENERALLY CONTROL AND SO THE GRANT PROGRAM YOU'VE ALREADY HAD YOUR MEETING. THE 2024 AMOUNTS ARE I BELIEVE IT WAS 85 5. 6096 SO I HAVE 11 LAST THING. SO WE HAVE THAT. UM WITHIN THERE. WE HAVE A OVERALL BUDGET THAT WE'VE CARRIED FROM, UH EACH YEAR FOR THE GRANT PROGRAM AND EVENTS IN THE AMOUNT OF ABOUT OF 225,000. THAT AMOUNT HAS BEEN SUFFICIENT. OVER THE YEARS. UM THE OTHER ITEM THAT IS INCLUDED THAT WE DID NOT TALK ABOUT WAS THE MCCOY MAINTENANCE AND CAPITAL AMOUNTS AND THE MOST MCCOY MAINTENANCE. WHAT WE SEND OVER TO THAT, UM. FOR THAT IS APPROXIMATELY 62,000 . SO THE GRANDPA PROGRAM WAS 96 EVENTS. JULY 4TH WAS HAVE IT WRITTEN DOWN. I SHOULD BE LOOKING AT MY NOSE. UM JUDGE JULY 4TH WAS 64 THIS YEAR, AND THAT INCLUDES IN KIND SERVICES, SO IT'S NOT ACTUAL MONEY RIGHT NOW. 24,000 IN KIND SERVICES WAS INCLUDED WITHIN JULY, 4TH.OCTOBER FEST WE BUDGETED 74,000. I HAVE NOT RECEIVED THAT FINAL RECONCILIATION YET FROM THE CHAMBER, YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WE SPENT. ON IT. UM AND THEN, OF COURSE, THE GRANTS AND WE'VE GENERALLY MAINTAINED WELL WITHIN THAT BUDGET EACH YEAR. SO THAT WAS A BRIEF UPDATE ON YOUR PARTICULAR BUDGET. I WANTED TO SEE IF THERE WERE ANY OTHER INITIATIVES THAT YOU WANTED TO APPROACH. WE DO HAVE A BUFFER WITHIN THE COMMUNITY INVESTMENT PROGRAM OF 70,000 FOR MISCELLANEOUS COUNCIL INITIATIVES THAT WE HAVE BUILT IN EACH YEAR. WHAT IS THE IDEA COMMITTEE SAID IT I THOUGHT THAT WAS UNDER HERE. BUT I'M WRONG. SO THAT IDEA. IT'S A LITTLE BIT CONFUSING. UM. YOUR COMMUNITY INVESTMENT PROGRAMMING. FALLS WITHIN THE ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES BUDGET. WHERE. IT IS. MINE MIGHT. MY PAGE NUMBER MIGHT BE DIFFERENT, BUT IT'S 193 IS WHERE THE. THE COMMUNITY INVESTMENT IN PROGRAM ONE PAGE 193. IF YOU WANT TO LIVE, AND I'M SORRY, SHAME ON, YOU KNOW, UM, FEELING GUILTY. THE WHOLE MEAN I WANT TO SAY THAT THERE'S AN EXTRA ON OUT THERE. I SHOULD HAVE LET YOU KNOW COLLEEN. SHE WANTED TO HAVE SOME LIGHT READING LIGHT JUST WASN'T EVERYWHERE. I DIDN'T KNOW WHERE IT FELL. SO YES, SO IDEA AND SUSTAINABILITY ARE BOTH WITHIN THE COMMUNITY INVESTMENT AND PROGRAMMING. UM, AND THEN ALSO, YOU'RE OKAY. SO IT'S HOLIDAYS. THAT POINT RIGHT. IT'S JUST NOT A BULLET POINT JUST BECAUSE THAT WAS ALL TALKED ABOUT AT THE PREVIOUS MEETING, SO I PULLED OUT THE ITEMS THAT WE DIDN'T NECESSARILY TALK ABOUT LAST MEETING THAT YOU GUYS USUALLY HAVE INPUT INFLUENCE. YOU HAVE INFLUENCE ON EVERYTHING, BUT, UM HMM, BUT THOSE AMOUNTS ARE. THE SAME WE'VE WE'VE INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET FOR THE SAME AMOUNTS FOR, UM, THAT WE'VE DONE IN PREVIOUS YEARS. SO WE HAVE THE MCCOY MAINTENANCE. THE TOTAL BUDGET IS 65,000. THE GRANTS AND DONATIONS AND COMMUNITY EVENTS IS 225,000.
WE HAVE FIREWORKS, WHICH I DON'T THINK WE TALKED ABOUT AT THE LAST MEETING. IT'S IN JOE'S BUDGET. IT'S 45,000. IT'S NOT CHANGED, UM, HOLIDAY LIGHTS FOR ROSE. BRIAN IS IN THAT BUDGET, WHICH IS 50,000 AND THEN MISCELLANEOUS COUNCIL EXPENSE, WHICH WAS 70,000. IT'S SO POPULAR. PEOPLE WANT TO EXTEND IT INTO FEBRUARY. THAT'S HOW POPULAR IT IS. YEAH SO ANYTHING
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ELSE? ANYTHING ELSE TO TALK ABOUT? BETWEEN NOW AND DECEMBER? 5TH THERE'S SOMETHING THAT YOU THINK ABOUT THAT YOU'D LIKE TO ADD TO THE COUNCIL BUDGET. WE CAN DO THAT. I THOUGHT ABOUT A PLACE FERRARI CHRISTMAS OVER ON THAT LINE BREAKS PIZZA. THAT LITTLE CORNER. IT'S JUST SITS EMPTY. BE NICE PRICE TO HEAVEN. CHRISTMAS TREE ON THAT INTERSECTION. AND THAT'S JUST ME. ADD TO THE OFFENSIVE. CAN'T GET THAT LOT. WE ON ACROSS NOW? YEAH YEAH. YOU ASK, YOU ASK. UM, SO BUT THE CONVENIENT VESTMENT LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAVE 76,000 FOR OCTOBER FAST. I MEAN THAT, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET MORE SPONSORS NEXT YEAR AND THAT GOES DOWN. BUT THEN WE CAN SHIFT THAT MONEY AROUND IN THAT. YEAH. YEAH, SO THAT'S. TYPICALLY WE GO THROUGH THE TERROR BUDGET IN. TWO MEETINGS. THIS IS THE SECOND OF THOSE TWO MEETINGS. UM SIR. ANYTHING ELSE? THAT YOU WOULD WANT TO SEE BETWEEN NOW AND DECEMBER 5TH. AND IT GIVES US TIME LIVES. PUBLISHED THE AGENDA WEEK OUT. AGENDA WILL GO UP ON MONDAY, DECEMBER OR SORRY. MONDAY NOVEMBER 27TH. WELL THAT SHOULDN'T WILL THERE BE A VERY BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE APPROPRIATION ORDINANCE NO MATTER WHAT. THAT DATE. YES FEEDBACK THAT YOU WANT TO PROVIDE A JOE OR FINANCE DIRECTOR BETWEEN NOW AND THEN I WILL HAVE A AMENDED I HAVE TO TURN IN LEGISLATION. UM BUT THAT DOESN'T YEAH, IT'S HER ME FROM AMENDING EITHER ON THE FLOOR ON RIGHT, YOU CAN MEND IT THAT WEEK AFTER IT GETS PUBLISHED, YOU CAN AMEND IT ON THE FLOOR ON THE DAY OF AND THAT IT IS SOMETHING THAT STRANGE WOULD HAPPEN. I LEAVE ANOTHER MEETING. YOU WOULD WANT TO WAIT UNTIL DECEMBER 19TH. BUT I THINK THE CHARTER SAYS THAT IT HAS TO BE DONE BY THE 21ST 20TH OR 21ST 20 21ST MOVIE 19. YEAH WE DON'T HAVE ANY DISPUTES, SO I MEAN, I THINK WE'RE ON AGREEMENTS ON THE FUNDING, MR WHEN IT WAS SPENDING YEAH, ALRIGHT. AND I LET JENNIFER MAKING EXCUSE ME. CLARK MASON ALREADY KNOW THAT I WILL NOT BE HERE FOR THE MEETING ON DECEMBER 19TH. OKAY MOMENT, UTAH. SO.GREAT FOR SCOTT, THE ONLY OTHER, UM THE ONLY OTHER ASK OUR CONFIRMATION THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO INCLUDE IN THE BUDGET IS WE DO HAVE THE 3% COLA IN THERE. WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WAS UM SOMETHING THAT YOU WERE THINKING WAS GOOD. YEAH I THINK WE'VE HISTORICALLY WAS TAKEN.
JOE'S RECOMMENDATION REGARDING THE COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENTS. REASON TO DEVIATE FROM THAT.
OKAY? THANK YOU, OKAY. AND IN THE MEANTIME, I KNOW THAT, UM OVER A HOLIDAY WEEKEND I'M ACTUALLY TECHNICALLY OFF TOMORROW. BUT ALL NEXT WEEK IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS IN BETWEEN, UM NOW AND THE NEXT MEETING OR IF YOU WANT TO SIT DOWN AND GO THROUGH THE NUMBERS, UM, I'M ALWAYS AVAILABLE TO DO THAT. CHIP OR NOT, CHIP MATT TOOK US UP ON THAT OFFER. THAT WILL BE KNOCKING ON YOUR DOOR NOW. IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN ADJUST THIS MAN? OKAY NO. I MEAN, I'LL JOKE YOU SIDE. I'M I'M GLAD THAT I MEAN, COLLEEN BRISCOE ALWAYS TOOK IT. VERY CAREFUL. LOOK AT THE BUDGET, AND I THINK MATT IS RESPONSIBLY TAKEN ON THAT ROLE DEFINITELY TAKEN ON THAT ROLE. ALRIGHT SO ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS REGARDING THE BUDGET PRESENTATION? IS THERE ANY OTHER BUSINESS FOR COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION? MUSCLES ALL RIGHT, UM I MISSED THAT WE ADJOURNED. SECOND ANYONE, EVERYONE SECOND YOU CAN HAVE A PC. IT'S ALL YOURS, CASEY, AND WE ARE ADJOINING AT NIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND GOOD NIGHT
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