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ALL. COMMISSION MEMBERS ALREADY HERE WITH THAT LET ME NOT SMASHING LED. I LIKE TO CALL THE OVER THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING FOR MONDAY, DECEMBER 4TH DECEMBER 18TH SORRY, UM, CAN HEAR HER ALL. PLEASE, MR KIRBY. MR WALLENS. I'M HERE. MR SCHELL PRESENT MISS BRIGGS, CARSON HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER BRISK HERE. ALL VOTING MEMBERS ARE PRESENT. WE HAVE A QUORUM. ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS TO EACH OTHER? NOT HERE, OKAY? WHATEVER ONE EMPLOYEE, WILLIAM, EVERYONE WHO'S GOING TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION TONIGHT, PLEASE RISE. MINUTES. SORRY I JUST WALKED
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RIGHT PAST THERE. I'LL JUST MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE BEFORE YOU HAVE TO CHANGE ITS TAUGHT LOT, NOT TOP LOT. PROHIBITING OF TOP LOTS SHOULD BE TAUGHT LOT. THANK YOU. FOR THE STATE. PAGE 2420 FROM THE BOTTOM. SECOND TO LAST SENTENCE THAT SAYS HE FURTHER EXPLAINED THAT THE AFTER SORRY ABOUT THAT 11 BEFORE THAT UM, THE ROYAL ROAD AND SHOULD NOT HAVE TO CURB CONSOLATION TRYING TO SEE WHAT SHOULD NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO CLARIFY THAT. GOT YOU. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER CORRECTIONS TO THE DECEMBER 4TH MINUTES. I'M HERE. SO YOUR MOTION TO ACCEPT THE MINUTES MOVED TO ACCEPT THE MINUTES FROM THE DECEMBER 4 2023 MEETING US CORRECTLY. DO I HEAR A SECOND? THE SECOND HALF. DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION FOR THE MINUTES. CAN I HAVE THE ROOM, PLEASE? MR WALLACE? YES MR SCHELL? YES MR LARSON? YES MR SCHELL. BRIGGS YES, MR KIRBY? YES? MOTION PASSES. THERE ARE FIVE VOTES TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS CORRECTED . THANK YOU. WE DIDN'T LISTEN TO CORRECTIONS. DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? THANK YOU. AND NOW WE ALL SILENCE OUR PHONES. AND FIVE HEARING A VISITORS FOR ITEMS THAT ARE NOT ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA. DO WE HAVE ANY SUCH VISITORS? SAYING NONE. WE'RE GOING TO OUR FIRST CASE[VI. Cases]
VARIANCE. 116 CAN WE HEAR FROM STAFF? THANK YOU. CHAIR MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION. THIS APPLICATION IS FOR A VARIANCE TO ALLOW TO 8 FT. WIDE SINGLE BAKER RAJ DOORS WHERE THE WOODHAVEN I P U D ZONING TEXT REQUIRES A MINIMUM WIDTH OF 9 FT. THE PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEWED AND APPROVED A CONDITIONAL USE REQUEST FOR A RESIDENTIAL MODEL HOME TO BE LOCATED ON THIS LOT WITHIN THE WOODHAVEN SUBDIVISION AT THE NOVEMBER MEETING. THE MODEL HOME IS CURRENTLY UNDER OPERATION. PRIOR TO THIS CURRENT REQUEST, THE BUILDER FOLLOW THE APPROPRIATE PERMITTING PROCESS.THE CITY APPROVED THE PERMIT AND THE PROPERTY OWNER INSTALLED A DOUBLE BAY GARAGE DOOR UNDER THE APPROVED APPLICATION. DURING DISCUSSIONS FOR THE CONDITIONALLY USE OF THE MODEL HOME. BOTH THE CITY AND THE BUILDER REALIZED THE GARAGE DOOR OF THE FIRST HOME, WHICH IS THIS MODEL HOME THAT WAS PERMITTED DID NOT MEET CODE. SO BOTH PARTIES AGREED THAT THE GARAGE DOOR SHOULD BE CHANGED. THIS WAS MENTIONED TO YOU OUT THAT HEARING OF THE MODEL HOME. YOU MAY REMEMBER THAT. THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO REMOVE THE EXISTING DOUBLE THEY GARAGE DOOR AND REPLACE IT WITH THE TWO SINGLE BAY GARAGE DOORS THAT ARE SHOWN ON THE SCREEN. AH THE DOUBLE BAY GARAGE DOORS IS WHAT IS REQUIRED BY THE ZONING TEXT. HOWEVER SINCE THE GARAGE IS FRONT LOADED , THE TEXT REQUIRES THAT THE SINGLE BAY GARAGE DOORS BE A MINIMUM OF 9 FT WIDE AND A MAXIMUM OF 10 FT WIDE. DUE TO THE HOME ALREADY BEING BUILT. THE OWNER IS NOT ABLE TO INSTALL GARAGE DOORS AND A MINIMUM OF 9 FT. THE APPLICANT PROPOSES AND REQUESTS A VARIANCE TO INSTALL.
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LIKE I SAID THAT TO 8 FT WIDE SINGLE BAY DOORS IN PLACE OF THE EXISTING DOUBLE B DOOR. THE VARIANCE DOES NOT APPEAR TO ALTER THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, REPLACING IT WITH TWO SINGLE BAY DOORS, EVEN IF THEY ARE EACH 1 FT. SHORT OF MEETING THAT, WITH REQUIREMENT WILL ALLOW THE GARAGE DOOR TO APPEAR AS THE SAME AS ALL THE OTHER GARAGE DOORS. WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT. THE VARIANCE DOES NOT APPEAR TO BE SUBSTANTIAL. THE GARAGE DOORS WILL BE 1 FT.SHORT OF MEETING THE REQUIREMENT , BUT THEY WILL STILL PROVIDE A FUNCTIONAL GARAGE DOOR. THE VARIANCE PRESERVES THE SPIRIT AND INTENT OF THE ZONING REQUIREMENT AND SUBSTANTIAL JUSTICE WOULD BE DONE BY GRANTING THE VARIANCE. THE INTENT OF THE REQUIREMENT IS TO ALIGN THE BUILDING DESIGN OF THE HOMES WITHIN THE SUBDIVISION, WITH THE REQUIREMENTS FOUND IN THIS CITY'S DESIGN GUIDELINES AND REQUIREMENTS. THE D GRS REQUIRE SINGLE BAY KARAJ DOORS IN ACCORDANCE WITH TRADITIONAL AMERICAN ARCHITECTURE. AND THE NARROW GARAGE DOORS SUCH AS THE 8 FT WERE COMMON HISTORICALLY, AND THE MODERN CONSTRUCTION IS WHAT OFFERS THE 9 FT GARAGE DOORS. UM YEAH. SLIDE SO IN SUMMARY, EVEN THOUGH THE PROPOSED GARAGE DOORS ARE NARROW , AND, UM, NARROWER THAN MORE MODERN DOORWAYS, DEPARTING FROM THE TRADITIONAL AMERICAN ARCHITECTURE STYLE BY ALLOWING A DOUBLE BAY GARAGE DOOR IS A BIG CONSIDERATION THE FUNCTIONALITY.
MAYBE SLIGHTLY LIMITED WITH THE 8 FT WIDE GARAGE DOOR. BUT KEEPING THE TRADITIONAL AMERICAN ARCHITECTURAL FORM WITH THE SINGLE BAY GARAGE DOOR HELPS ENSURE THAT THE COMMUNITY ENJOYS THE HIGHEST POSSIBLE QUALITY OF ARCHITECTURE DESIGN. AND THE APPLICANT HAS TAKEN CARE TO CREATE THIS DESIGN SOLUTION THAT MEETS THE SPIRIT AND INTENT OF THE CITY CODE AND D GRS. AND WITH THAT STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, MRS. JUST FOR THIS HOUSE. YES, THIS IS THE ONLY HOUSE SO THE RECORD THE. P U D REQUIREMENTS FOR ALL THE OTHER HOMES ARE BUILT IN SORRY. THE REQUIREMENT IS FOR ALL OF THE FRONT LOADED GARAGES TO BE UM, SINGLE BAY. 9 FT. IT'S NOT JUST THE VARIANCE IS THE VARIANCE IS ONLY FOR THIS PARTICULAR HOUSE. OKAY, SO IT'S ONLY FOR THIS HOUSE. ALL THE OTHER HOMES THAT ARE GOING TO BE WILL BE BUILT TO THE I P U D. CORRECT YES, THIS WAS THE FIRST ONE THAT WAS PERMITTED AND ALL THE OTHER HOMES SINCE THEN, HAVE BEEN, UM, MEETING THAT CRITERIA AND THIS RESULT IN JUST FROM BASICALLY A MUTUAL MISTAKE, CORRECT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. SO THIS IS THE THIS WAS THE FIRST HOUSE BUILT IN THE SUBDIVISION. OKAY OKAY. AND ALL OF THE OTHERS HAVE FIGURED OUT.
HEY WE GET A BIGGER GARAGES THAT THESE PEOPLE DO. OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE QUESTIONS. I HAD THE SAME LINE OF QUESTIONING BECAUSE THERE ARE SEVERAL OTHER HOMES THAT ARE NOW CONSTRUCTED IN THAT SUBDIVISION. CORRECT CORRECT, AND SO ALL THE OTHER ONES STICK WITH THE CORRECT THE CORRECT SIZING? YES THEY HAVE THE 9 FT. THANK YOU. DOUBLE BANK. CAN WE HEAR FROM THE UP HERE? WE'VE GOT ANYTHING TO ADD. CORRECT AND THIS FROM BOB WEB AND, UH, AS USUAL STAFF WITH A GREAT JOB OF PRESENTING THE SITUATION. UH IT'LL HELP US OUT TOO, BECAUSE OURSELVES ARE POOR SALES PERSON WOULD BE IN A HOME WITH A 16 FT GARAGE DOOR. THE CUSTODY WILL ASK FORT AND THEY SAID WE CAN'T DO THAT CLEARS ONE. SO IT'S AN ART STUDENT WORK WITH THE CITY AND GET THIS SUPER BASS. O OKAY? SO I TAKE IT TO FOUR PLANS OF THE OTHER HOUSES CHANGED IN THEIR GARAGES ALL GOTTA, I BELIEVE WE MUST LITTLE MODIFICATION TO ANOTHER ONE. BUT I DO. THEY ALL ARE BEING BUILT WITH NO DOORS. WHEN WE HAD LOOKED AT DESIGN, IT SEEMS AS THOUGH YOU ARE THE GARAGE KIND OF GOES INWARDS TO THE PORCH IS A LITTLE BIT SMALLER. SO I THINK THE OVERALL EXTERIOR DESIGN LOOKS THE SAME. BUT I THINK THE FOR INTERIOR FLOOR PLANE CHANGES A LITTLE BIT TOO ACCOMMODATED.
THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT. YEAH. THIS HOUSE HASN'T SOLD YET CORRECT. IT'S A SEVEN MODEL. THEY UNDERSTAND THAT THAT WAS SKINNY CAR. WELL I MEAN, NINE STATE. SORRY APRIL WAS FAIR FOR YEARS.
YEAH YEAH, I HAVE REAL PROBLEMS. I AS THE OWNER OF ONE OF THOSE 8 FT DOORS, WE JUST FIND OUR
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CUSTOMERS LIKE 9. FT. BETTER. YEAH SUPPORTED TO PROTECT AS WELL. SO WE'RE SORT OF GOING DO THAT ALSO HELPS ANY VEHICLE THAT'S WIDER THAN 8 FT. MIRROR TO MIRROR REQUIRES TO HAVE THE TOP RUNNING LIGHTS THAT THE TRUCKS HAVE. THIS IS WHY YOU LOOK AT LIKE HUMMERS AND EVERYTHING ELSE IS REALLY, REALLY WIDE. THEY ARE 711 AND THREE QUARTERS WIDE BECAUSE WHEN THEY HIT 8 FT, WIDE TO BECOME A COMMERCIAL TRUCK WITH RUNNING LIGHTS REQUIRED ON THE TOP. AND SUCH IN THE WHOLE DECKED OUT. THINK AND SO THAT'S WHAT ALL THE CARS FITTING THEIR FEET. OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. LET'S JUST SAY THAT NO CAR I EVER DROVE THAT WELL IN THE 18 DIFFERENT THING. MY BARN IS A LOT WIDER THAN MINE ALWAYS HAD RACING STRIPES BY THE TIME EXACTLY RIGHT VOTING YEARS ARE A GODSEND. FIRST FEW YEARS WE'VE. FOR THE FIRST WHILE WE HAD OUR CURRENT CAR. IT WAS LIKE THERE'S THIS LITTLE BUTTON RIGHT HERE. OKAY, UM. COOL AND WELL, NOT NORMALLY FOND OF VARIANCES. JUST IN GENERAL, UM I LIKE THIS A LOT BETTER THAN THE 16 FT WIDE THIS, THIS WILL ACTUALLY MORE CLOSELY MATCHED THE REST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. YEAH, I THINK IT MAKES IT. IT'S AN ENHANCES THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THIS PARTICULAR HOUSE FROM WHAT IT IS TODAY, SO THANK YOU TO ACCEPT THE STAFF REPORTS AND RELATED DOCUMENTS INTO THE RECORD FOR VARIANTS. 1 1620 23 DO I HEAR A SECOND ON THE DOCUMENTS MOTION SECOND DISCRETION ON THE DOCUMENTS. I CAN HEAR THE ROLE, PLEASE, MR. KIRBY MR. SCHELL BRIGGS? YES MR LARSON? YES MR WALLACE? YES MOTION PASSES. THERE ARE FIVE VOTES TO ADMIT THE DOCUMENTS. DO I HEAR A MOTION ON THE EXPERIENCE ITSELF? I MOVE TO APPROVE APPLICATION ER 116 2023 NO. FINDINGS AND ESTABLISH PORTS. SO AS THIS OKAY. DO I HEAR A 2ND 2ND? IN DISCUSSING THE MOTION ON THE VARIANCE ITSELF. OH, PLEASE, MR. SCHELL MISS BRIGGS. YES, MR LARSON? YES MR KIRBY? YES MR WALLACE? YES MOTION PASSES. THERE ARE FIVE VOTES TO APPROVE THE VARIANTS. GOOD LUCK. THANK YOU. THANKS FOR[VII. Other business]
COMING IN HAVE ANY OTHER BUSINESS? I WAS GONNA SAY HAPPY HOLIDAYS, EVERYONE AND THANK YOU AGAIN FOR ALL YOUR TIME AT THESE MEETINGS AT I DON'T KNOW IF YOU NOTICED, BUT THIS IS YEAH.VARIANCE 116, SO IT'S RARE FOR US TO EVEN GET IN THE NINETIES. SO WE'VE CERTAINLY SEEN MORE APPLICATIONS, WHICH I KNOW EQUATES THE TYPICALLY MORE TIME AND MORE MEETINGS ESPECIALLY FOR YOU GUYS BEING THE PLANNING COMMISSION. SO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR ALL YOUR TIME. UH BEING A
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PART OF THIS PLANE COMMISSIONER ENJOY HAVING ALL MEMBERS WERE COMMENT. BRUCE FUNNY. HAPPY HOLIDAYS, EVERYONE I WILL CONFER ON THAT HAPPY HOLIDAYS. EVERYONE APART. SAME THANK YOU. AND WITH THAT, W* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.