Jan 02, 2024 Organizational Meeting

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

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SORRY SAFETY STARTED. GOOD EVENING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, AND WELCOME TO THE NEW ALBANY CITY COUNCIL ORGANIZATIONAL MEETING FOR TUESDAY, JANUARY 2ND . OUR REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING WILL FOLLOW THE ORGANIZATIONAL MEETING, WHICH HOPEFULLY SHE WON'T TAKE 20 OR SO MINUTES BUT UNDER OUR CITY CHARTER WILL REQUIRE TO HAVE THE ORGANIZATIONAL MEETING FIRST, SO I WOULD FIGHT EVERYONE TO PLEASE STAND, THE CITY COUNCIL SAID OUR NATIONAL POLITICAL ALLEGIANCE.

NATIONS WILL BE NICE AMERICA AND HERE FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER. STRONG. DREAM.

MASON THE ROLE, PLEASE. HMM SPALDING COUNCIL MEMBER BRISK HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER DEREK HERE, REMEMBER FELLOWS COUNCIL MEMBER CHARLOTTE COUNCIL MEMBER WILL CHILD HERE HAVE 7000 FOR THE JANUARY 2 2024 ORGANIZATIONAL MEETING. ALL RIGHT. WELL OKAY TO WAIT JUST A SECOND. OKAY? UNDERSTOOD IT. IS THAT YOUR ORIGINAL SWEARING IN PICTURE MUST HAVE DONE. YEAH LOOK AT ALL THAT HAIR. JO JO. HOW LONG AGO WAS THAT? THAT WAS AN L. A. THAT WAS THAT COUNSELOR THAT WAS PRE INTEL HOUSE 16 YEARS HERE 16 YEARS AGO. HOW ABOUT THAT? YEAH WOW. IS THAT WHAT YOU ORIGINALLY GOT ON COUNCIL 15? TIME FLIES. OKAY? HE DIDN'T HAVE ANY COLOR IN YOUR HAIR WERE USED TO RIGHT HERE. YEAH GREAT. THAT WAS GREAT . PLEASE DON'T DO THAT. NEVER STARTED HERE. READY TO GO. ALL RIGHT. DO WHAT YOU FIRST. HERE. BEGIN BY SWEARING IN. SPALDING FOR HIS NEW TERM, SON, IF YOU

[4. SWEARING IN]

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[5. ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS TO THE AGENDA]

[6. DISCUSS AND ADOPT RULES OF PROCEDURE FOR COUNCIL]

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WE SEE FIT. UM BUT JUST SUGGESTED THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT IF YOU ARE THE PRO TEM, UM YOUR UNLESS THE RULES CHANGE, YOU WOULD NOT BE SUBJECT TO RE APPOINTMENT FOR AN ADDITIONAL TERM. IF YOU SERVE YOUR TWO YEARS AND THEN ANOTHER MEMBER OF COUNCIL WHOEVER YOU KNOW, MAYBE NOMINATED AND THEN APPOINTED WOULD TAKE THE SPOT AS PRO TEM. MM HMM. SO THAT MEANS SOMEBODY CANCER TWO TERMS IN A ROW. I MEAN, I WOULD ARGUE THAT UNDER THE UNDER THAT RULE CHANGE THAT. YES UNLESS UNLESS WE CHANGE THE ROLE, AND YOU KNOW AGAIN, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE COUNCIL. WELL TRADITIONALLY, WE LOOK AT THE RULES OF PROCEDURE FOR COUNCIL THAT EVERY ORGANIZATIONAL MEETING SO WE DECIDED TO YEARS FROM NOW THAT WE WANT TO CHANGE THE RULES TO FILL A NEED. AND IN FAIRNESS, UM YOU KNOW, AS WE POINTED OUT AND PHOTOGRAPH I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR JUST JUST A BIT. UH THERE'S NOT BEEN A VERY CONSISTENT APPLICATION FOR THE WAY THAT THEY PROTEIN WAS SELECTED AND THE TERM THAT THEY SERVED. AND, UH, YOU KNOW, PASS. WE ROTATED.

MIKE MOTT DID IT FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS, DR. MARSH WAS INSISTED AT ONE POINT THAT WOULD JUST BE BASED ON SENIORITY. AND SO WE FOLLOWED THAT PATH FOR A WHILE, AND DR MARSHALL WANTED IT TO BE ANNUAL EACH YEAR EACH YEAR AND THEN, ABSOLUTELY CHARTER GOT AMENDED TO REFLECT THAT CHANGE, AND THEN UM COLLEEN BRISCOE ACTUALLY WAS THE PRO TEMPER AND A NUMBER OF YEARS WHEN SHE WAS SERVING AS A DESIGNATION DESIGNATED FOR MAYOR'S COURT. I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE WORD NEW AND DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THEY'RE SUDDENLY ADDING IT. MY UNDERSTANDING FROM THE HISTORY AND TALKING TO COLLEEN BRISCOE IS THAT ACTUALLY USED TO RARELY ROTATE AND THERE WAS A SMALL PERIOD OF TIME HISTORICALLY WHERE IT ROTATED BECAUSE THERE WAS A PARTICULAR MEMBER THAT REALLY WANTED A TERM, BUT I HAVE A VERY STRONG CONCERN ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE PRESIDENT PRO TEM NOT TONIGHT BECAUSE I'M COMFORTABLE WITH WHAT I THINK WILL HAPPEN THIS EVENING. BUT MOVING FORWARD. I DO NOT THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE TAKEN LIGHTLY, AND EVERYBODY SHOULD JUST GET TURNS. AND I THINK I'VE BEEN PRETTY CLEAR ABOUT THAT. IN MY DISCUSSIONS. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE SUDDENLY HAVE A NEED TO ADD THE WORD NEW IS THIS COUNCIL SHOULD DECIDE AT A DIFFERENT TIME THAT THERE IS SOMEONE THAT'S APPROPRIATE TO REMAIN IN THAT POSITION. I THINK THEY SHOULD BE ENTITLED TO IF THEY DON'T THINK THAT THEN WE KNOW EVERY TWO YEARS WE REAPPOINTS. I DON'T THINK THAT IT SHOULD APPEAR TO COUNCIL WERE TO THE PUBLIC THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT JUST ROTATES AROUND AND EVERYBODY GETS A TURN WHEN THEY WANT ONE. IT'S FAR TOO IMPORTANT POSITION FOR THAT IF PRESIDENT PRO TEMPORE SHOULD BE THERE IN THAT POSITION, AND SOMETHING SHOULD HAPPEN TO A MAYOR. THAT PRESIDENT PRO TEM COULD THEN BE THE MAYOR WITHOUT US HAVING ANY CONTROL OVER ITS AUTOMATIC. THEY SHALL BE THE MAYOR. IT COULD TAKE. IT COULD BE UP TO 2.5 YEARS. THE WAY I AM READING THE ORDINANCES AND THE AND THE CHARTER. AND THEREFORE I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD NECESSARILY ALWAYS BE ROTATING. YES SO IT DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN'T ROTATE IT. BUT I HAVE NO IDEA WHY WE HAVE THE NEED TO NOW PUT THE WORD NEW IN WHICH WOULD INDICATE TO ME THERE HAS TO ROTATE. I THINK YOU JUST LEAVE IT UP TO THE COUNCIL IF THEY WANT TO REAPPOINT OR NOT. SO TAKE THE I AGREE WITH YOU, MARLENE. I WOULD TAKE THE WORD NEW ALBUM. SO JUST TO BE CLEAR IF WE DON'T USE THE WORD NEW OR SUGGESTING THAT A MEMBER OF COUNCIL PRO TEM CAN JUST STAY ON TERM AFTER TERM AFTER TERM WELL, THEY HAVE TO BE VOTED ON AND APPOINTED BY THIS COUNCIL. YEAH OKAY. THIS COUNCIL CHOOSES TO REAPPOINT YEAH COUNCIL CHOOSES TO GIVE ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL RETURN. YOU KNOW, THE DEVIL'S IN THE DETAILS AT THAT POINT, RIGHT TO BE FAIR. IT HAS NO IMPACT ON ME. SO IF YOU'RE IF THE COUNCIL'S PLEASURES TO HAVE THIS

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YOU KNOW, WE MAY BE DIVIDED ON WHO WE BELIEVE EVERYBODY MAY HAVE A MEMBER PICK SIDES AND IT WOULD DIVIDE COUNCIL IN SOME WAY. THAT'S MY ONLY CONCERN. IF WE HAD WE, IF WE KIND OF DON'T SELECT THE NEW CAN IF WE KEPT THE NEW IN, IT MIGHT BRING UNITY BECAUSE EVERYONE WOULD THERE WOULD BE. NO UM PEOPLE WILL BE ABLE TO CHANGE AND WHAT EVERYONE WOULD PRESUMABLY HAVE A CHANCE TO BE ABLE TO DO IT AND THERE WOULD BE LESS AND AH, IMPORTANT, YOU KNOW, NOT IMPORTANT, BUT UM YEAH. FEEL LESS CHARGED DECISION AND I THINK EVERYBODY ON COUNCIL IS BY BEING ON COUNCIL BEING VOTED ON TO COUNSEL WOULD BE. HAS THE ABILITY TO SERVE AS PRO TEM AND PRO TEM DOESN'T BRING ANY OTHER THAN TITLE. IT DOESN'T REALLY BRING ANY OTHER UM, PACKING TO IT. WE ALL STILL GET THE SAME BOAT AND I BELIEVE IT'S YOU KNOW, I JUST BELIEVE THAT IT SHOULD BE. MY OPINION. IS THAT THE ROTATED OR AT LEAST EVERY TWO YEARS HAVE A NEW PRO TEM SO THAT COUNCIL MEMBERS CAN HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE IN THAT ROLE. I STRONGLY DISAGREE WITH THE FACT THAT OTHER THAN TITLE IT DOESN'T HAVE AN IMPACT. AS I SAID A MOMENT AGO IN OUR CHARTER , IT SAYS THAT YOU SHALL BE THE NEXT MAYOR IF SOMETHING SHOULD HAPPEN WITH HIM THERE. AND WHAT I'M GOING TO ASSUME IS THAT SLOANE HAS BEEN A WIN THE MULTI BILLION DOLLAR LOTTERY AND THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

BUT IF SOMETHING HAPPENS, IT IS OUT OF OUR HANDS. SO IF WE WOULD HAVE A COUNCIL MEMBER THAT WE DIDN'T FEEL WAS COMFORTABLE AS THE NEVER WOULD THERE BE APPOINTED, THOUGH. UM. YES SO HOW DOES THAT? HOW DOES THAT NOT CREEPY, I GUESS. HOW DOES THAT NOT CREATE THE SAME KIND OF TENSION AND DIVISION BETWEEN? I JUST THINK IT SHOULD BE. OTHER MEMBERS SHOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY. IF YOU SERVE ONCE OTHER MEMBERS SHOULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY. TO CERTAIN AND PROVIDES MORE BALANCED ON COUNCIL WOULD BE MY OPINION. I KNOW THE HISTORY YOUR PRIOR TO OUR TERM BECAUSE IT WAS COLLEEN THE ENTIRE COUNTY. I'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL, BUT I THINK AS FAR AS I UNDERSTAND, AND I THINK WHERE I STAND PERSONALLY, AS I DO THINK IT SHOULD ROTATE. I DON'T LIKE THE FACT THAT COUNCIL CAN SIT HERE AND BASICALLY APPOINT DEFACTO. MAYOR OR THE FUTURE MAYOR. EVERY TIME WE DO THIS, AND I THINK THE WORD NEW BUILDS IN THAT. HEY, THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE A PERMANENT SELECTION. NOW WHETHER I THINK IT CREATES THE EXPECTATION IN THAT WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK EVERY TWO YEARS AND HAVE THIS DISCUSSION THAT WE'RE HAVING NOW. SO IF NEW IS NOT THE MECHANISM, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE MECHANISM IS FOR US TO SAY. ALL RIGHT? THIS IS NOT WE'RE NOT PICKING THAT DEFACTO MAYOR TONIGHT. WHOEVER PROTEST BECOMES, UM, BECAUSE I MEAN. I THINK WE ALL HOPE SLOANE'S HERE AS LONG AS SLOAN WANTS TO BE HERE. UM AND I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT ROLE. I DON'T WANT TO UNDERSTATE WHAT SLOAN DOES. BUT HIS VOTE COUNTS THE SAME AS OURS. SO I DON'T WANT US TO PUT SAY THIS IS THIS MONUMENTAL ROLE OF BEING ACTING MAYOR? UM SO. I LIKE THE MECHANISM THAT IT'S GOING TO ROTATE, AND WE CAN COME BACK.

AND I GUESS TO YOUR POINT. MARLENE DO YOU THINK THAT YOU KNOW IF THIS CERTAIN PERSON THAT HAS STARTED LAST TWO YEARS OUT OF THE OTHER MEMBERS OF COUNCIL WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO SETTLE ON SOMEBODY THAT COULD POTENTIALLY FILL THAT ROLE? I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOU'RE ASKING. BUT WHAT I AM SAYING IS THIS. I'M NOT SAYING THAT A PRESIDENT PRO TEM IS US PICKING THE NEXT MAYOR THAT IS ELECTED BY THE CITY THAT MOST PEOPLE DON'T PROBABLY KNOW WHO OUR PRESIDENT PRO TEM IS. I DON'T THINK IT REALLY AFFECTS AN ELECTION. THE ONLY THING IT AFFECTS US IF SOMETHING HAPPENS TO A MAYOR, AND YES, WE AT THAT POINT DO HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO PICK THE NEXT MAYOR UNTIL THAT NEXT GENERAL ELECTION OR IN THE CASE OF AFTER A CERTAIN PART OF THE TERM HAS EXPIRED UNTIL THE SUBSEQUENT GENERAL ELECTION. WE DO HAVE THAT AUTHORITY IN OUR CHARTER, AND WE SHOULD USE IT WISELY AND CAREFULLY. THAT'S MY POINT. SO YES, WE NOMINATE EVERY TWO YEARS WE NOMINATE FOR EVERYTHING. EVERY TWO YEARS. WE CHANGED BOARD MEMBERS ALL THE TIME. IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE ARE REQUIRED FOR IT TO BE A NEW PERSON. IF FOR WHATEVER FACTS WE THINK IT SHOULD BE THE SAME

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UM SO AGAIN, MY SUGGESTION AND YOU KNOW AGAIN, WE CAN VOTE ON IT. AND MAYBE IT DOESN'T IT DOESN'T CARRY WAS TO ELIMINATE THE STANDING COMMITTEES IN THE RULES AND ALSO TO MODIFY OUR AGENDA TO STRIKE THOSE AREAS. BUT I ALSO RECOGNIZE. I MEAN, IF WE THINK BACK TO THE IDEA COMMITTEE, IT STARTED AS SORT OF A SUBCOMMITTEE OF COUNSEL TO SORT OF GET. IT STARTED FIGURE OUT EXACTLY WHAT WE WANTED TO ACHIEVE. UM OUR COMMUNITY GRANTS AND THE BED TAX STARTED. SAME SORT OF ACTIVITY WHERE YOU KNOW, THE COUNCIL HAS SORT OF APPOINTED AS SUBCOMMITTEE. YOU KNOW, A GROUP OF THREE COUNCIL MEMBERS AND SO I THINK THAT FEATURE STILL NEEDS TO BE PRESENT IN IN THE MODIFIED RULES. SO I SUGGESTED SOME ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE FOR SUBCOMMITTEE CREATION. AND ALSO CALLING OUT THAT THOSE SUBCOMMITTEES SHOULD PERIODIC THERE FROM TIME TO TIME REPORT TO COUNCIL ON ITS PROGRESS DURING THE PUBLIC MEETING. WHAT ABOUT WAS ONLY ASKING ABOUT THE ADMINISTRATION OF CASING BECAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE MAINTAINED, HE REPORTED. AND AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE TO OFFICIALLY DESIGNATE SOMEONE TO DO THAT. UM YOU KNOW THAT WE COULD PASS THAT RESPONSIBILITY ON YOU'VE DONE IT BEFORE. I KNOW MATT DID IT FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS. CASES PICKED UP THE MANTLE RECENTLY. BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S THE VALUATION FOR THE CITY MANAGER AND THE CLERK. I WOULD LIKE A MECHANISM SO I KNOW WHO I'M LIKE. YEAH MY PERSON ON COUNCIL WHO I CAN BUG WHEN I NEED TO. SHOULD WE GET? I MEAN, WE CAN MAKE THAT STUFF COMMITTEE HAVING MORE THAN ONE WITH A CHAIRPERSON TO CLEANER SO. ARE YOU SUGGESTION SUGGESTING? MAYBE WE'VE JUST PARE DOWN THESE SUBCOMMITTEES, NOT ELIMINATE ALL OF THEM, OR MAYBE JUST PARE THEM DOWN OR YOU I'M OPEN TO SUGGESTIONS. I JUST KNOW THAT WE GO THROUGH THE AGENDA AND I'M A MEMBER OF THE PUBLICAN. RIGHT YOU KNOW? HEY LISTEN, YOU HAVE THE SENATE COMMITTEE AND THERE'S NOTHING ONE REPORT FROM THE FINANCE COMMITTEE, PUBLIC UTILITIES AND SERVICE AND PUBLIC FACILITY, DON'T CASEY AND I NEVER EVER REPORT WITH THAT SAME WITH PLANNING AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. THOSE CAN GO THAT CAN GO EASILY REALLY WANTS BILLY ADMINISTRATION. REALLY? YEAH. CITY MANAGER STEFAN OFF THE SAFETY CHAIR. THERE WAS A TIME WHEN THEY WERE SIGNING THINGS ARE DOING THINGS IN THE DISTANT PAST. IS THAT STILL A THING? I CAN'T REMEMBER ANYTHING IN THE LAST 10 OR 15 YEARS? OKAY THANKS . SO NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT ADMINISTRATION. I'M LOOKING AT THE DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR. IS THERE ANY REASON WHY THEY KEEP THAT STANDING COMMITTEE, FOR EXAMPLE? TO MY KNOWLEDGE. THERE'S. I'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL.

IT'S NEVER BEEN A THE OTHER THING JUST FOR ADDITIONAL CONTEXT, THE OTHER THING THAT IS AVAILABLE TO COUNSEL IS WHEN THEY WANT TO REFER SOMETHING TO COMMITTEE. THERE IS A STANDING COMMITTEE THAT'S NOT JUST SAY THAT A SUBCOMMITTEE COULDN'T BE CREATED. BUT THAT IS A MECHANISM THAT WAS AVAILABLE TO COUNSEL WITH THE STANDING COMMITTEES THAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO CREATE A SUBCOMMITTEE IF YOU WANT TO REFER SOMETHING. COUNCIL IS A COMMITTEE AS A WHOLE FOR ALL OF THESE COMMITTEES ANYWAY, RIGHT? SO IT'S A IT'S A COUNCIL MATTER, NO MATTER WHAT, BUT THAT IS A MECHANISM THAT YOU WOULD NEED TO CREATE THE SUBCOMMITTEE OF SOME PEOPLE. HMM OKAY, JUST REALLY JUST LEAVES AT G ADMINISTRATION AND HOTEL MOTELS, ONES THAT WE COULD WE COULD ADD A UPCOMING COUNCIL MEETING DISCUSSED WITH SUBCOMMITTEES WE MAY WANT TO CREATE AND WE HAVE IDENTIFIED A COUPLE BUT THERE MAY BE OTHER H. SO DO WE WANT TO BE THERE FOR ME TO SUBCOMMITTEE APPOINTED? RIGHT JUST HAVE SOMETHING SITTING THERE DOING NOTHING HERE. WE NEEDED QUICK. WE CAN ALWAYS STRIKING ALL OF THE RECREATE WHAT WE NEED. NO WAIT. NO ARE WE GETTING RID OF PLANNING OR I'M SORRY. WE'RE GETTING RID OF ADMINISTRATION HOTEL MOTEL ALREADY RIGHT NOW AND DIDN'T JUST REGENERATING. YES THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SEEING. BUT I MEAN, THAT'S THE CLARIFICATION I'M LOOKING FOR FROM STANDING COMMITTEES. SUBCOMMITTEES. OKAY, GOT IT. AGAIN. WE DON'T NEED TO DO RIGHT NOW. BUT THE COMING, YOU KNOW, NEXT TO MEETINGS. WE PROBABLY NEED TO TACKLE THAT AMERICAN. I SUGGEST TWO WORDS TO ADD TO YOUR A SUBCOMMITTEES. YES, SIR. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S ALWAYS FREE COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT WE HAVE POINT THAT COULD WE SAY UP TO THREE COUNCIL MEMBERS? YES

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WE DISCUSS IN AFRICA, WHICH RIGHT NOW ARE WE ON F APPOINTMENTS? THIS SECTION? YES.

I HAD MADE A NOTE. POTENTIALLY IF WE WANTED TO NOT RE CREATE SUBCOMMITTEES TO MAYBE, AND INCLUDE HOTEL, MOTEL, BED, TAX AND ADMINISTRATION AND THERE SO THAT MIGHT BE A THOUGHT. UNDER APPOINTMENTS. MAYBE JUST PUT THOSE TWO THERE AND YOU MAY NOT HAVE TO RECREATE ANY OF THE OTHER STUFF ABOVE BECAUSE WE'RE KIND OF AT THAT POINT, JUST A FUN. YEAH AND I THINK THE FORMALITY OF HAVING THE SCIENCE SUBCOMMITTEE IS THERE'S AN EXPECTATION OF REPORTING BACK WHICH EACH OF THOSE COMMITTEES OR COMMITTEE OF ONE OVER THE YEARS HAS ABSOLUTELY DONE THAT.

UNDER E. THERE WAS A NEW ITEM UNDER A COMMITTEE CHAIR RESPONSIBILITIES. OF COURSE WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW. WAY I WOULD CALL IT SUBCOMMITTEE CHAIR. RESPONSIBILITIES WOULD INCLUDE KEEPING MINUTES AND IT'S SO, FOR EXAMPLE, COUNCIL MEMBER SHELL KEEPS MINUTES OF THE HOTEL HOTEL MOTEL TAX MEETING, AND THAT JUST WASN'T IN THERE. THAT MECHANISM WASN'T IN THERE. AND I THINK I MADE THAT CHANGE BECAUSE AS A SUBCOMMITTEE OF THREE, IT'S NOT A PUBLIC BODY. IT'S NOT A PUBLIC MEETING. WE DON'T HAVE TO NOTICE IT. WE SHOULDN'T DO. MEETING MINUTES. GOT THREE COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT THE QUORUM OF THAT COMMITTEE YEAH, WHICH IS WHY I'VE BEEN DOING IF THERE'S A COMMITTEE THAT'S CREATED THREE COUNSELORS. I THINK YOU WOULD HAVE A QUORUM STUFF BECAUSE I POINTED OUT THAT THE SAME THING WE GOT TO NOTICE IT AND WE HAVE BEEN DOING THAT FINANCE HAS A SPECIAL DISPENSATION TO BUT HOTEL MOTEL THAT TEXT IS NOT AND IF ANY OF THOSE OTHER COMMITTEES WERE TO ACTUALLY MEET, THEY DO NOT HAVE TO NOTICE. AND WE HAVE JENNIFER YEAH. ALRIGHT FAIR ENOUGH. SO I JUST CREATED THE MECHANISM SO THAT COUNCIL MEMBERSHIP CAN TAKE THE HOTEL MOTEL TAX MEETINGS AND JUST TURNED THEM IN. AND THEN THE LAST CHANGE OR LESS PROPOSED CHANGE TO FIGHT CRACKING THIS CORRECTLY, UM, WAS THE COUNCIL WAR REGARDING, UM, RECEIPTS OF GIFTS. OUR CURRENT ROLE HAS A MARKET VALUE OF $25 AND MORE CLERK HAD SUGGESTED WE MAYBE JUST TRACK THE OHIO ETHICS COMMISSION. WHATEVER VALUE TAKE PLACE TO CALL ON LAW DIRECTOR ALBRECHT TO MAKE HIS RECOMMENDATION. IF THAT'S OKAY, NOW THAT I'VE DONE IT REMEMBER WHAT I TOLD YOU OVER THE PHONE WE TALKED ABOUT. WE TALKED ABOUT THE LANGUAGES. OKAY UM AND WE CAN JUST RAISE THE VALUE IF YOU LIKE. AND IT'S A NICE, CLEAR DEMARCATION. I DON'T MIND THAT AT ALL. HOWEVER OTHER COUNCIL RULES JUST DON'T HAVE A PROVISION AND SIMPLY FALL BACK ON OHIO LAW AND CASE LAW AND SO ON. SO FORTH. YES. SO THE ETHICS COMMISSION HAS SOME NICE LANGUAGE THAT DOESN'T REALLY PROVIDE ANY SPECIFIC PARAMETERS. UM, SO IT WOULD ALWAYS BE OPEN TO INTERPRETATION. SO A NUMBER OF VALUE IS NICE, BECAUSE THERE'S A BRIGHT LINE. YOU JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT A REASONABLE NUMBER THAT'S NOT GONNA ATTRACT TOO MUCH CAUSE FOR CONCERN FROM PEOPLE AS YOU GO ALONG, SO IF YOU ADJUST IT AND KEEP THE LANGUAGE THAT'S FINE.

OR IF YOU GO WITH WHAT THE ETHICS COMMISSION THERE'S GONNA BE MORE ROOM FOR INTERPRETATION.

MR. WHAT THAT MAY MEAN. WE CAN SIMPLY TAKE IT OUT. SO, FOR EXAMPLE, DUBLIN DOESN'T HAVE ANY LANGUAGE ABOUT GIFTS. THEY JUST FALL BACK ON WHATEVER AGAIN CASE LAW AND ETHICS COMMISSIONS, RULINGS, I'M KEEPING THE 25. THAT'S THE MORNING OF TOWN, RIGHT AND PRETTY MUCH TAKING HARDLY ANYTHING. IT'S TRUE AGAIN . YOU CAN NO LONGER GET A THREE WEEK CANDLE FOR THAT PRICE

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IT'S NOT SOMETHING YOU CAN NECESSARILY STOP. I THINK WE'RE ALL JUST ABIDE BY THE RULE NEEDLES, NOT FREE LUNCHES. WE JUST WE ALWAYS PAY OUR OWN WAY. THAT'S NEVER AN ISSUE. UM AGAIN, I FIND KEEPING IT OR WE CAN RAISE IT UP WITH ANYONE. WE CAN ERASE IT ALL TOGETHER AND DO A DOUBLE DOES FOLLOW I'IL ETHICS. WE'RE FINE WITH EITHER. YEAH, GOOD JUDGMENT. YEAH WE FOLLOW THE OHIO ETHICS THIS JUST MAKE SURE THE CLERK AT THE ORGANIZATIONAL MEETING REMINDS EVERYONE OF WHAT THE VALUE IS SO THERE ISN'T A FIXED RIGHT THAT THAT'S NOT. THE ETHICS COMMISSION DOESN'T SET A FIXED VALUE THAT TALKS ABOUT THIS MIGHT BE OKAY. THIS MIGHT NOT BE OKAY, SO IF YOU GO WITH WHAT THE ETHICS COMMISSION SAYS I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE. EVERYBODY WENT IN DOUBT SCALE. ASK A QUESTION TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE NOT DOING IT ON A CASE BY CASE, I'D RATHER HAVE A BRIGHT RED LINE. YEAH I THINK THAT'S WHAT I WOULD SAY IT'S TOO LOW LIKE MARKEDLY. EVEN THE $50. FOR THE NEXT 25 YEARS, RIGHT? YEAH, THAT WOULD PROBABLY COVER I THINK I CAN BE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT. ALRIGHT GOOD TO LET THE PUBLIC KNOW THAT THIS IS OUR RED LINE IN THE SAND AS FAR AS GIFTS ARE CONCERNED AND ANYTHING BEYOND THAT IS GONNA BE RETURNED. YEAH IT TAKES SOME OF THE SOME SOCIAL TRANSACTIONS IT DOES. ALRIGHT THEN EVERYONE AGREES ON 52 MOTOR . ALRIGHT PUT ON 50. ALRIGHT THEN. I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S ANY OTHER ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THE OTHER PROPOSED CHANGES LIKE DON'T THEN I'LL JUST MAKE A FAIRLY BROAD MOTION CLERK MASON THAT THE REMAINING PROPOSED EDITS TO THE RULES OF PROCEDURE FOR THE CITY OF WIDELY COUNCIL BE ADOPTED PURSUANT TO OUR DISCUSSION. SECOND. ONE AND YOU CAN SEE MARY SPALDING. REMEMBER KISS FELLOWS? YES COUNCIL MEMBER, DEREK? YES YES, YES. COUNCIL MEMBER SHALL YES. YES FOLKS TO ADOPT THE MOVIE EDITED COUNCIL RULES. I WILL BE SENDING OUT CLEAN COPIES. IF YOU CATCH

[7. APPOINT OR RE-APPOINT PRESIDENT PRO TEMPORE]

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[9. APPOINT OR RE-APPOINT COMMITTEE CHAIRPERSONS]

[10. APPOINT OR RE-APPOINT LIAISONS TO BOARDS/COMMISSIONS]

CURRENTLY, HAZAN'S AND ALSO FOR THE RECORD PLANNING COMMISSION, COUNCIL MEMBER, BRISK PARKS AND TRAILS, ADVISORY BOARD COUNCIL MEMBER FELLOWS ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD COUNCIL MEMBER WILL TROUT BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS COUNCIL MEMBER SHELL SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD.

COUNCIL MEMBER KISSED IDEA IMPLEMENTATION PANEL COUNCIL MEMBERS MARLENE RISK, AND ANDREW WILL SHOUT CEMETERY RESTAURANTS RESTORATION ADVISORY BOARD MEMBER LIAISON AND PUBLIC RECORDS COMMISSION BY ROLE IS MAYOR SPAULDING. ANYONE SWAPPING OUT SO COUNCIL MEMBER WILL TROUT AND I HAVE PROPOSED THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SWAP ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD AND PLANNING COMMISSION SO THAT SHE WILL NOW DO PLANNING COMMISSIONER WILL DO ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD AND COUNCIL MEMBER WILL TROUT. WE'D LIKE TO TAKE MY LEAD POSITION ON THE IDEA PANEL. COUNT. ARE YOU STILL ON THE. IDEA RIGHT NOW. I'VE GOT YOU BOTH YOUNG, SO I GUESS. YEAH OKAY. I CAN LISTEN TO HER NAME FIRST. INSTEAD OF MY NAME FIRST HOUSE THAT YOU GOT IT. YEAH THANK YOU WILL STILL BE INVOLVED. ZHONG WANTS TO SWITCH OFF. IT'S FINE WITH ME IF YOU JUST WANT IT. YOU CAN LET ME KNOW. ANYBODY. BUSYING ANYONE. ANYONE? ANYONE MONDAYS ARE GOING TO BE ANYONE PARTS. IT'S A GOOD ONE. IT'S A GOOD ONE. YOU GOT SOME GOOD PEOPLE. OKAY ALRIGHT. I WOULD. CAN WE DO A MOTION FOR PLANNING COMMISSION AND THEN A MOTION FOR A RBI, PLEASE? MOVED. TO UM, TO CHANGE THE COUNCIL LIAISON FOR PLANNING COMMISSION FROM MARLENE, BRISK TO ANDREW WILL TRAIL IS THERE A 2ND 2ND? AND THAT WAS SORRY. I DIDN'T HEAR THE SECOND RESPONDING. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER.

BRISK. YES, SPALDING. YES REMEMBER DIRECT MEMBER FELLOWS COUNCIL MEMBER SHALL COUNCIL MEMBER WILL TRY? YES SEVEN. YES. VOTES TO APPOINT COUNSEL NUMBER WILL SHOUT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION. CAN I GET ONE FOR THE AIR B. TO APPOINT MARLENE BRISK FOR COUNCIL THESE ONTO THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD AND JACK COUNCIL MEMBER WILL TROUT YES, COUNCIL MEMBER DEREK SPALDING COUNCIL MEMBER. BRISK YES. COUNCIL MEMBER FELLOWS. REMEMBER KISS COUNCIL MEMBER SHOW? YES, YES VOTES TO APPOINT CANCER. MEMBER RISK TO THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD. AND I THINK THAT'S IT FORWARD BOARDS AND QUESTIONS AND THERE'S ONS. JUST SEE I SEE THE IDEA WELL. WE SHOULD ALSO DO A STANDING COMMITTEES. I MEAN, I'M JUST WITH THE HOTEL MOTEL BED, TAX GRANT. I KNOW WE WERE LOOKING AT THAT, BUT I KNOW I'VE BEEN ON IT FOR QUITE SOME TIME. IF ANYONE IS INTERESTED IN IT, I WILL STAY ON IT. BUT I'VE BEEN ON IT FOREVER, SO I'M WILLING TO JUST A MATTER OF TOYS AND OPPORTUNITY . FAMILY WANTS AN OTHERWISE WE'LL STAND. I THINK THESE ARE THESE COMMITTEES LIKE ZOMBIES RIGHT NOW, RIGHT? LIKE THERE? NO THIS ONE IS VERY MUCH I WOULD I WOULD LIKE TO BE INVOLVED IF THERE'S A SPOT, UM, FOR THAT, IF IN WHATEVER FORMAT IT'S OFTEN AGAIN. I MEAN, IF EVERYONE'S OKAY, CAN WE GET A FUTURE MEETING? DO THE SUBCOMMITTEE'S YEAH, EVERY CHANCE TO JUST FIGURE IT OUT. YEAH THAT'S RIGHT. YOU KNOW YOU YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN ON IT FOR SINCE WE STARTED IN SECTION YEAH. MHM OK, WE'LL COME BACK AROUND TO THAT MAYBE UNDER OTHER BUSINESS AND RETAIL COUNCIL MEETING AND THEN THE NEXT ONE IF YOU WANT. UM AND SO I JUST I WANTED TO MAKE SURE IF YOU CLIP OVER YOUR WHAT I CALL THE CHEAT SHEET IN 2023.

THESE ARE NOT THINGS THAT REQUIRE EMOTION THAT ARE ANY OF THESE THAT YOU KNOW OF CHANGING.

WELL THE OTHER REPRESENTATIVES AS WE DESCRIBE IT, I THINK THAT'S STILL ANY CHANGES TO THOSE. I THINK THEY'RE GONNA STAY THE SAME. CORRECT. SO DO WE NEED TO CHANGE THE COMMUNITY INVESTMENT CORPORATION THE WAY IT'S HAPPENING, BECAUSE NOW THAT RODEO AUTOMATICALLY DESIGNATED YEAH. AND I NEED YOUR DESIGNATION. ALRIGHT THEN SWAP OUT DIZZY. HE'S RIGHT. CORRECT.

DO WE NEED A MOTION FOR THAT? WE SHOULD DO A MOTION FOR THAT. THEN I WOULD MOVE THAT I WOULD MOVE TO APPOINT MARLENE BRISKET IS THE MAYOR'S DESIGNATED B C I C SECOND AND SURE APPRECIATE THAT. RESPONDING YES. COUNCIL MEMBER SHELL REMEMBER BRISK DIRECT? YES WILL TRAP COUNCIL

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THANKS. I WOULD ONLY, UM I WOULD JUST MAKE UP. WHERE WE? YEAH SO WHAT ABOUT THE SCHOOL SYSTEM SCHOOL CITY WORKING GROUP FOR JOINT PROJECTS THAT'S STILL ACTIVE. YEAH I THINK WE SHOULD PROBABLY DESIGNATE THAT AS A SUBCOMMITTEE THE SUBCOMMITTEE ON THAT BECAUSE THAT THAT'S COMING UP AGAIN, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A LOT OF ISSUES TO WORK THROUGH THE SCHOOLS AND IN THE COMING YEAR, OKAY? I THINK THAT WOULD BE INCUMBENT ON THAT SUBCOMMITTEE THERE. REPORT BACK TO COUNCIL AND VERY REGULAR BASIS. SURE, WE'LL MAKE THAT SUB TONIGHT. THAT'S NOT GONNA HAVE TO HAVE A WHOLE NEW SECTION ON SUBCOMMITTEES. THAT'S THAT'S SMELLS KIND OF THE POINT.

[11. DETERMINE DATE AND TIME OF REGULAR MEETINGS FOR 2024]

[12. OTHER BUSINESS]