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[1. CALL TO ORDER]

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CLERK MASON. WELCOME LADIES AND GENTLEMEN TO THE NEW ALBANY CITY COUNCIL MEETING FOR TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 20TH, I WOULD INVITE EVERYONE TO PLEASE STAND WITH COUNCIL AND RECITE OUR NATIONAL PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. IS APPLY OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH ONE NATION UNDER GOD IN THIS WORLD AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. LIKE MASON. THE ROLE PLEASE AND OF COUNCIL TURNED OFF THEIR MICROPHONES. IF THEY COULD PLEASE TURN THEM BACK ON AGAIN.

ALL RIGHT. MAYOR SPALDING COUNCIL MEMBERS HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER DEREK HERE, COUNCIL MEMBER FELLOWS HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER COUNCIL MEMBER SHALL IS TRAVELING AND IS REQUESTED TO BE EXCUSED. COUNCIL MEMBER WILL TROUT HERE SIX PRESENT FOR THE FEBRUARY 2020 24 REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING. MOVE THAT WE EXCUSE THE ABSENCE OF COUNCIL MEMBERS HE'S TRAVELING AT TOWN. SECOND.

COUNCIL MEMBER COUNCIL MEMBER WILL TR YES. COUNCIL MEMBER FOLLOWS YES. COUNCIL MEMBER? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER? YES. YES TWO COUNCIL MEMBER FROM TONIGHT'S MEETING. ACTION ON THE

[4. ACTION ON MINUTES]

MINUTES PRIOR TO TONIGHT'S MEETING A COPY OF THE PROPOSED MINUTES FROM OUR FEBRUARY 6TH

[5. ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS TO THE AGENDA]

COUNCIL MEETING WE DISTRIBUTED TO COUNCIL MEMBERS. ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS TO THE PROPOSED MINUTES? I RECEIVED TWO CORRECTIONS. NEITHER WERE SUBSTANTIVE ONE KIND OF ALE FOR COUNCIL MEMBER RISK. I SAID THAT SHE TALKED ABOUT OUR OUR, UH INNOVATE THROUGH ALBANY FORCE BECAUSE OUR FORCE WAS GOING TO GET STRONGER. WHICH SOUNDS VERY STAR WARS. SHE MEANT FOR US. UM SO I JUST SAID FOR THE CITY IN THE MINUTE, SO I CORRECTED THAT AND ALSO, UH, DEPUTY FINANCE DIRECTOR UM JOE WRIGHT GAVE ME JUST A CLARIFICATION AGAIN, NOT SUBSTANTIVE. ALL RIGHT. THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THE MINUTES AS PROPOSED, I WILL HAVE THEM ADOPTED BY CONSENSUS. ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS TO THE AGENDA WHEN ANYONE FROM STAFF OR COUNSEL RECOMMENDED ANY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS TO TONIGHT'S AGENDA. BELIEVE ALL THE AMENDMENTS GOT MADE ON THE ONE YOU'VE GOT. ALL RIGHT. THAT TAKES US TO HEARING A VISITORS.

[6. HEARING OF VISITORS]

AND THIS EVENING, WE HAVE, UH, SOME FRIENDS FROM THE COLUMBUS COMMUNITY RIGHTS COALITION WHO WOULD LIKE TO, UH, DISCUSS WITH COUNSEL AND OUR CITY, THE RISKS OF THE GREATER COLUMBUS WATER SUPPLY AND OIL AND GAS PRODUCTION. SANDY AND CATHY. THE PODIUM IS YOURS. SHE WAS THE WORST THING. WE'RE HERE TO TALK. THIS IS YES. AND THIS OH, THANK YOU VERY QUICK. YEAH, PERFECT.

OK UM SO GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS STANLEY. BINGO. AND THIS IS KATHY MC MCLOONE, AND WE ARE MEMBERS OF THE COLUMBUS COMMUNITY RIGHTS COALITION. AND UM, I WANNA SAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR HAVING US. UM THERE'S THE COLUMBUS COMMUNITY RIGHTS COALITION A LITTLE BIT EASIER, BUT THANK YOU FOR HAVING US. UM THIS IS GONNA BE ABOUT OUR WHITE PAPER THAT WE PUT TOGETHER. IT'S CALLED THE RISK TO THE GREATER COLUMBUS WATER SUPPLY FROM OIL AND GAS PRODUCTION. AND WHY IS THIS IMPORTANT TO US? THAT'S WHY WE'RE THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE AND AGAIN. THANK YOU SO MUCH, UM, FOR HAVING US HERE TONIGHT. SO, OF COURSE, WHAT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT? UM WHAT NATURAL RESOURCE IN NEW ALBANY? JUST TO SAVE TIME. I'M GOING TO ASSUME YOU GUYS ARE GONNA SAY WATER, EVERY LIVING THING. AND UM, PERSON THINGS DEPENDS ON WATER. UM BUT IT HAS TO BE SAFE WATER, SO NEW ALBANY'S WATER COMES FROM THE SAME COLUMBUS WATERSHED AS ALL OF THESE OTHER CITIES, TOWNS AND UM AND TOWNSHIPS. UM SO COLUMBUS AND ALL OF THESE, UM CENTRAL OHIO COMMUNITIES. UM ARE MANAGED BY THE COLUMBUS WATER DIVISION OF WATER. THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT OUR WATER IS CURRENTLY VERY SAFE. THE COLUMBUS DIVISION OF WATER DOES A PHENOMENAL JOB. IN FACT, WHEN WE WERE TALKING TO THEM, UM SOME OF THE HEADS WERE MENTIONING HOW THEY WERE BEING LOOKED AT BY OTHER CITIES AND TOWNS, SO THEY DO IT REALLY TERRIFIC JOB IN OUR WATER. IT IS VERY SAFE, BUT WE NEED TO KEEP IT THAT WAY. THIS IS THE REASON FOR OUR WHITE PAPER. AND THAT CARD. YOU HAVE, UM KIND OF SHOWS YOU THAT WHITE PAPER TOO, RIGHT? OK SO WHAT IS THE THREAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? WELL IT'S UM FRACKING WASTE FRACKING. IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH IT IS THE PROCESS OF CRACKING OR BREAKING OPEN SHALE, UM, TO UNLEASH NATURAL GAS. NOW IT TAKES TO DO THIS PROCESS. IT TAKES 800 PLUS CHEMICALS. THAT'S WHERE WE GET THE TOXICITY OF THE WASTE THAT COMES OUT AFTER THAT.

SEPARATED FROM THE NATURAL GAS AND THEN WE WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO WITH THE WAIST? ALSO THIS IS

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RADIOACTIVE BECAUSE THE FRACKING MEANS OPENING UP THIS, UM THIS FOSSIL FUELS HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF YEARS OLD AND RELEASING THE RADIOACTIVITY THAT WOULD THAT THERE. IT'S FINE IF IT'S LEFT ALONE. NOT IF YOU BREAK IT OPEN. THAT'S THE FRACKING. SO WHAT DO WE DO WITH? UM THESE CONTAMINATES? OBVIOUSLY THEY CANNOT BE DUMPED JUST ANYWHERE. AND UM AND SO WHAT? THE CITY OF CO. WHAT THE STATE HAS SAID SAID IS THAT THEY NEED TO BE THE STATE IS MANDATED THAT THEY GO TO, UM, SPECIAL STORAGE SITES, AND THESE STORAGE SITES ARE JUST NORTH OF US IN MORROW COUNTY. A LOT OF THESE, UM THESE , UM, STORAGE SITES. THESE INJECTION WELLS WE CALL THEM.

HERE'S AN EXAMPLE OF THE INJECTION WELLS. YOU CAN SEE THE TANKS RIGHT THERE. SO WHAT HAPPENS? WHY IS THERE A RISK? WELL, WE GOT THIS TOXIC AND RADIOACTIVE WASTE. BEING STORED IN THERE, AND THESE THINGS CAN LEAK AS WELL AS THE, UM, EQUIPMENT THAT GOES 4 TO 6 MI, UH, METERS UNDER THE EARTH. ANY TIME THESE THINGS CAN LEAK, WE'RE TOLD THEY'LL NEVER LEAK.

BUT THAT'S NOT QUITE TRUE. I'M SURE YOU UNDERSTAND THAT. UM, THEN THE TANKER TRUCKS. THERE'S AN EXAMPLE OF A TANKER TRUCK ON THIS PICTURE, TOO. AND UM, THESE ARE TRAVERSING OUR STATE WITH THIS DANGEROUS CHEMICALS WITHIN THEM, AND THEY CAN LEAK AN EFFECT THEY HAVE LEAKED. THEY'RE SPILLED. THEY'RE ACCIDENTS AND WHATEVER HAVE YOU AND WE'VE HAD SOME VERY CLOSE CALLS WHERE THEY HAVE ALMOST LEAKED INTO WHERE THEY HAVE KIND OF LEAKED INTO OUR WATERSHEDS. BUT WE WERE ABLE TO, UM, TO PREVENT THE WORST HAPPENING, BUT SOME OF IT'S BEEN PRETTY DARN DANGEROUS. UM SO.

THE UM SO THE RISK AS I MENTIONED, UH, ANOTHER RISK IS THAT I ALREADY WENT TO THE FRACKING WAS PUMPED AND INJECTION WELLS, WHICH CAN LEAK THE TANKER TRUCKS TRANSPORTING THIS AROUND THE STATE. BUT ALSO THERE'S FRACKING BRINE, AND SOME PEOPLE ARE LIKE, WHY STORE IT WHEN WE CAN MONETIZE IT, MAKE SOME MONEY FROM IT. WE CAN SELL IT. AND SO SOMETIMES PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO SELL IT. THE FRACKING WAS HAS A LOT OF SALT, SO IT'S LIKE, HEY, THEY MAKE GREAT DEICERS WHEN IT SNOWS. BUT THEY REALLY DON'T. UM, VERY, VERY DANGEROUS. SO, UM. UM SO OF COURSE, THE YOU KNOW, OF COURSE, THERE'S SUBSTANTIAL RISK FOR ANYTHING THAT IS TOXIC AND RADIOACTIVE. SO WHAT CAN WE DO ABOUT THIS? THE FIRST THING IS TO NOT ASSUME THAT IT WILL BE OK THAT OTHERS ARE GONNA FLY IN AND MAKE SURE WE'RE SAFE. WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH OUR GROUP FOR 10 YEARS NOW, UM, THAT'S WHY WE WROTE THE WHITE PAPER BECAUSE WE DIDN'T THINK WE WERE GETTING ENOUGH ATTENTION FOR HOW DANGEROUS THIS REALLY IS. SO UM OH, THAT'S THE FRACKING BRAIN THAT'S BEING PUT ON THE STREETS. WE DON'T HAVE IT. IT'S NOT HAPPENING HERE IN NEW ALBANY.

YOU DON'T WANT TO HAPPEN IN THAT TO HAPPEN. UM BUT ANYWAY, WE DON'T WANT ANOTHER FLINT FLINT WAS A DIFFERENT SITUATION. IT WAS WATER GOING THROUGH THE LEAD PIPES. I MEAN, THERE ARE PEOPLE TODAY. THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF CHILDREN WHO WERE JUST FINE WHEN THEY WERE BORN AND NOW ARE ARE SUFFERING MENTAL CAPACITIES FROM THERE. OK SO, UM, SO WHAT CAN WE DO? WELL WE'RE FORTUNATE, BECAUSE, UM, THE FIRST THING IS TO BE AWARE. LEARN ABOUT THE THREATS. THIS BOOK I THE WHITE PAPER AND THEN TAKE ACTION. AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TOO, TO INFORM YOU AND ALSO TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO LOOK INTO THIS. FIND OUT WHAT'S GOING ON AND TAKE ACTION. SO WE HAVE OUR ASK. UM FORTUNATELY, WE HAVE A STRUCTURE FOR, UM, THAT ACTION AND IT'S CALLED THE COLUMBUS SOURCE.

WATER WATER PROTECTION MANAGEMENT. I KNOW IT'S A MOUTHFUL. EVERY MAJOR CITY HAS ONE OF THESE PLANTS AND OURS AGAIN IS VERY GOOD. WE'RE SO LUCKY TO LIVE IN THIS AREA. UM THE VERY GOOD BUT TO DEAL WITH THE TRADITIONAL CONCERNS. BUT THEY'RE NOT REALLY SET UP. OURS IS NOT SET UP TO DEAL WITH GAS AND OIL ACTIVITIES, AND I EXPLAINED THE DANGERS THAT WE ARE FACING WITH THIS JUST IN MORROW COUNTY JUST NORTH OF US, SO WE NEED TO BE SURE THAT IT ALSO ADDRESSES THE THREATS OF BILLS AND RELEASES FROM OIL AND GAS ACTIVITIES. AND THIS IS WHERE YOU COME IN. THIS IS WHERE YOU COME IN. FOR ALL OF US COME IN, WHEN IT COMES TO PROTECTING OUR WATER AND ALL THE PEOPLE, BUSINESSES AND ALL THE HOPES. IN OUR COMMUNITIES. IT'S GOING TO TAKE ALL OF US. WE NEED YOU AND EVERY CENTRAL OHIO TO ADVOCATE FOR EACH OTHER TO KEEP US SAFE.

AND UM, THIS IS WHY THE WHITE PAPER. IT IS A SCIENTIFIC STUDY PUT TOGETHER BY, UM BY A GEOLOGIST WHO'S BEEN BEEN AROUND FOR 40 YEARS WORKING ON THIS STUFF, AND SHE TOOK IT OVER FROM HER MENTOR WHO WAS ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT THIS ACTIVITY. UM SO WE'VE GOT LIKE, 100 YEARS OF WORK GOING INTO THIS TAPE, THIS WHITE PAPER AND OF COURSE, OUR GROUP AS WELL, UM, IF YOU'LL NOTICE ON THE ON THE COVER IT, SAYS AN EDUCATIONAL WHITE PAPER FOR CITY LEADERS. WE HAVE TO GO TO GENERAL PUBLIC. SO YOU I THINK JUST A. CRAZY SO, UM, FOR I KEEP IT FOR A LONG TIME,

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BECAUSE LIKE YOU TALK PRETTY LOUD. UM I. I RAN OUT AND GOT THE FOUR MAN YOU'RE TRYING TO TELL ME THAT THE M WHAT I SAY. BUT WE'RE ALMOST DONE. YEAH WHAT WAS YOUR LOSSES FOR THE RECORDING? AND THIS IS WHAT THIS IS. HOW 100 53. OH, OK. UH, DEFINITELY NOT BE. UM, SO ANYWAY , UM, BUT THAT IS BECAUSE YOU KNOW IT YOUR LAST TIME, OF COURSE, WAS IT? UH, A JUNIOR HIGH SCHOOL? NO PROBLEM WITH THAT TO UNDERSTAND THAT SO, UM, I WILL. UM, IF YOU HAVE. UM WHEN LONGER SPEECHES THERE'S MY PROGRAM OUTLINE. WE SAY WHO WE ARE, UM THE, UH, THE OVERVIEW OF OUR PAPER. WE TALKED ABOUT THE PROBLEM. FRACKING WASTE TALKED ABOUT THE RISK. TOXIC AND RADIOACTIVE WASTE IN OUR IN GETTING IN OUR WATERSHED. I'M HISTORIAN FOR MY FAVORITE PART OF THE CITY. THE HISTORY OF FRACKING IN OHIO. IT'S IN THE BOOK. CHECK IT OUT. IT'S REALLY FASCINATING. THE URGENCY ON THIS TO SAY ABOUT THIS, THERE'S NO TIME TO WASTE. I MEAN, WE COULD BE TALKING ABOUT LEAKAGE INTO OUR WATERSHED 500 YEARS FROM NOW , 50 YEARS FROM NOW, FIVE MONTHS FROM NOW, FIVE MINUTES FROM NOW, WE NEED TO BE PREPARED. FIRST OF ALL, WE NEED TO FIND WAYS TO PREVENT IT AND THERE ARE PLENTY. THAT'S WHAT OUR ASK HER AS WELL, UM AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE OUR UM WATER MANAGEMENT PLAN IS SET UP FOR THAT. SO IN CONCLUSION, UM, LIKE I SAID, PROTECTING YOUR WATER IS GONNA TAKE ALL OF US. WE WANT TO WORK WITH YOU. WE ARE ALSO WORKING WITH THE COLUMBUS DIVISION OF WATER. THEY'VE BEEN FANTASTIC WITH US. UM WE WANNA WORK WITH YOU. WE WANNA WORK WITH THEM, BUT WE'RE GOING AROUND ALL THE COMMUNITIES TO SAY, HEY, WE HAVE A PROBLEM. AND WHY IN THE WORLD WOULD WE DEAL WITH THIS AFTER THE FACT? DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. YOU'VE GOT INTEL COMING HERE. THEY'RE GONNA NEED SAFE WATER. WE ALL DO. SO I WILL. YOU'VE GOT THESE PAPERS RIGHT HERE, AND WHAT WE'RE ASKING YOU TO DO IS TO LOOK THROUGH THESE THINGS. CONTACT US ABOUT ANY INFORMATION. WE'RE HAPPY TO SIT WITH YOU AGAIN. UM AND THEN, UM, IF YOU CAN, YOU KNOW, HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THE CITY WATER DEPARTMENT. SAY, WHAT IS THIS WOMAN TALKING ABOUT? AND, UM, WE'D BE HAPPY FOR THAT INTENTION. THANK YOU. AND THE QUESTION KATHY SANDY, THANK YOU FOR COMING DOWN TONIGHT AND SHARING THIS INFORMATION WITH US. WE CERTAINLY APPRECIATE YOUR PASSION AND COMMITMENT TO SERVING THE GREATER GOOD OF THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY. UH, OBVIOUSLY HAVING A HEALTHY WATERSHED. IT'S IMPORTANT FOR ALL THE CENTRAL OHIO AND I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS PUTTING A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT INTO THIS. UM I. I WAS CURIOUS.

YOU SAID THERE WAS THERE'S NOT AN EARLY WARNING SYSTEM. UM YOU KNOW, WE HAD A BRIEFING ABOUT SIX MONTHS AGO FROM THE FRANKLIN COUNTY EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AGENCY, AND, UH, SORT OF ON THE HEELS OF THE EAST PALESTINE. UH, TRAIN DERAILMENT LEARNED A LOT MORE ABOUT HAZARDOUS MATERIALS.

TRANSFERRING UH, ON TRACKS IN AND AROUND FRANKLIN COUNTY. AND, UM. THERE WAS A LITTLE EYE OPENING TO LEARN THAT, BUT YOU'RE JUST YOU'RE SAYING FROM YOUR RESEARCH THAT THERE'S NOT A STATE OR COUNTY LEVEL, EITHER TRACKING OR ALERT SYSTEM IF THERE IS A HAZARDOUS SPILL OF THESE MATERIALS, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT GAS AND OIL. AND SO THERE'S DIFFERENT COMPONENTS TO LOOK FOR DIFFERENT. UM THINGS WE NEED TO TEST FOR. THE CITY TO THE STATE TEST FOR A LOT OF OTHER CITY TESTS FOR A LOT OF THINGS, BUT NOT THAT PARTICULAR ASPECT. AND OF COURSE, OF COURSE WE RECOGNIZE THAT YOU KNOW, A SPILLER CONTAMINATION IS ONLY AS GOOD AS SOMEONE WHO REPORTS IT.

SO IF SOMETHING GETS SPILLED, AND NO ONE MENTIONS IT, IT MAY GO UNDETECTED. SO I APPRECIATE THAT AS WELL. UH, ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNSEL? THANK YOU FOR SHARING THIS WITH US. OH, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING US APPRECIATE THE WORK YOU'RE DOING . THANK YOU. AND, UH, I WOULD SAY THIS WHEN WE HAVE GUESTS, UH, YOU'RE WELCOME. FOR THE REST OF THE MEETING. BUT IF YOU HAVE OTHER THINGS, OR YOU JUST WANNA GO OVER TO HUDSON 29 AND HAVE A GREAT DINNER, UH, IT'S RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET. YOU'RE WELCOME TO LEAVE WHENEVER WHENEVER HE'S LIKE, THANK YOU.

UH, WE'RE STILL UNDER A HEARING OF VISITORS. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE FROM THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS COUNSEL REGARDING A MATTER NOT ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA. ALL RIGHT.

[7. BOARD/COMMISSION REPORTS]

THAT TAKES US TO THE BOARD AND COMMISSION REPORTS AND THE UPDATE FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION. NO MEETING. WE MEET TOMORROW GIVEN THE PRESIDENT'S DAY HOLIDAY. ALL RIGHT, PARKS AND TRAILS UH, THERE WAS NO MEETING. ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD. UH MR KISS WENT THROUGH.

YES. UH I ATTENDED FOR COUNCILWOMAN PRESS. UH, THERE WAS ONE CASE ON THE AGENDA. UH IT WAS A REQUEST, UH, FOR SOME WAIVERS TO THE URBAN CENTER CODE. UM, THERE WERE SEVERAL, UH UH, WAIVERS REQUESTED. THIS IS GOING TO BE A NEW DAYCARE CENTER . UH, LOCATED UH, BETWEEN THE GOT YOU. I CALLED THE NOAH'S EVENT CENTER, BUT I KNOW IT'S IN INFINITE CHURCH NOW, UH, SO JUST

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THE PARCEL OF THE SITUATED BETWEEN THAT AND AVALON UM SO BASICALLY, UH A LOT OF THE WAIVERS WERE A RESULT OF THE SITE IS WHAT IT IS. SO YOU CAN'T KIND OF SHOE HORN SOME OF THE, UM SETBACK REQUIREMENTS BECAUSE THE SITE IS, UH WE CAN'T SUBDIVIDE THE SITE AND THEY WANT TO USE THE ENTIRE PARCEL FOR, UH , THE IT'LL BE A TWO STORY, UH, DAYCARE CENTER. SO UH, THERE WAS ALL THE WAIVERS WERE GRANTED. THERE WAS DISCUSSION ON THE MATERIALS AND COLORS. IT'S GONNA BE BRICK AND HARDY PLANK SIDING. UM, THE SIGNAGE WAS APPROVED AS PRESENTED. UM AND I THINK THE ONLY ONGOING DISCUSSION IF YOU NOTICE WHEN YOU DRIVE BY THERE, THERE'S SEVERAL TRANSFORMERS THAT KIND OF ARE OUT IN THE FRONT OF THAT SITE. SO STAFF'S GONNA WORK WITH THE, UH, APPLICANT AND TRY TO RELOCATE THOSE TRANSFORMERS TO DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE PARCEL. AND IF NOT, WE'RE GONNA, UH IF IT'S EXTREMELY COST PROHIBITIVE, AND WE'RE GONNA TRY TO SCREEN THEM AS BEST AS POSSIBLE. SO BUT, UH, AT THE END OF THE DAY, UH, ALL THE WAIVERS WERE TO THE WHAT ABOUT PARKING. THERE WILL BE 55 OFF STREET PARKING SPACES. BEHIND THE BUILDING IS GONNA BE SHIFTED TOWARD THE FRONT. AND, UH, IF ANYBODY I DO HAVE A LIKE PLAYING IN ELEVATION FOR THE PROJECT. YOU CAN PASS AROUND, BUT, UH, ALL THE PARKING WILL BE BEHIND THE PROJECT. THANK YOU.

SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD AMOUNT OF PARKING. YEAH, IT'S ACTUALLY AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE WAIVERS.

IT'S TOO MUCH PARKING, UH, THE CODE. THE URBAN CENTER CODE ALLOWS FOR 37 AND THE APPLICANT REQUESTED. FOR THEIR BUSINESS FOR THE DAYCARE BUSINESS, SO IT'S USUALLY IT'S JUST TRAFFIC COMING THROUGH FOR PICK UP AND DROP THEM OFF AND. THANK YOU. YEP. THAT WAS THE ONLY, UH, THAT WAS THE ONLY CASE. ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT REPORT? ALL RIGHT. THE BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS DID NOT MEET TO SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD. YES, I DON'T KNOW. UM, YOU'RE NOT. YEAH, IT'S ALL ABOUT ME. SO UH, WE HAD, UH, THE ANNUAL ORGANIZATION MEETING. UM WE SWITCHED. UH, CHARLES G. BILLER IS GONNA BE THE CHAIRPERSON NOW, AND BRIAN PHILLY TRUCK IS THE VICE CHAIR AND. DID UH, HI. CATHERINE CATHERINE STAYED ON AS SECRETARY. OK UH, KNOCK THAT OUT THE MOST, UH, THE BULK OF THE PROGRAM. WE HAVE ANOTHER, UM LOCAL COMP AND COMPANY THAT PRESENTED UH, EARTH PEAK ORGANICS, AND I'VE GOT KIND OF THEIR, UM, THEIR PROPOSAL. THEY UH DO SIMILAR, UH, PROGRAMS THAT GO ZERO DOES NOW WITH THE PICK UPS, BUT THEY ALSO ARE OFFERING CURBSIDE PICKUP. UH, FOR NEW ALBANY. THEY ARE CURRENTLY DOING BEXLEY. UM SO IT WOULD BE A SEPARATE TRUCK ON THE ROAD JUST TO BE COMPLETELY INDEPENDENT OF OR ANYBODY ELSE? UM SO THEY WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT. THEY'D LIKE TO GET MORE INVOLVED IN THE COMMERCIAL ASPECT. UH, THE CAFETERIAS THAT WE'RE GOING TO REACH OUT TO THE SCHOOL AND TALK TO, UM, I KNOW HE GOT THAT ONE UP AND RUNNING, BUT UH, THEY ACTUALLY HAVE MACHINES THAT WILL DO THE COMPOSTING ON SITE. UM THAT YOU KNOW, YOU LEASE THOSE IN AN ACTUALLY, UH, PRODUCE COMPOST. THEY HAVE A DIFFERENT A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. UM, UH, SYSTEM FOR COMPOSTING THE FOOD AND. IF YOU WANT TO READ THE BROCHURE, I'M NOT GONNA TRY TO BUTCHER AND EXPLAIN THAT THE SCIENCE OF IT ALL, BUT, UH, IT'S ACTUALLY PRETTY INTRIGUING DOING A GOOD JOB. UM YOU KNOW, THEY THEY DO. THEY'RE THEIRS COMES WITH A LITTLE BIT MORE BELLS AND WHISTLES AND GO HERE. THEY HAVE, UH, THIS CORE ZERO REPORT THAT ACTUALLY WILL, YOU KNOW IT'S REAL TIME CARBON OFFSET REPORT AND ACTUALLY WILL CALCULATE IN THE AMOUNT OF FUEL THAT IT TAKES TO RECOVER AND CALCULATES ALL THAT IN, SO YOU GET A NET. OF HOW MUCH, UH, CARBON EMISSIONS YOU YOU SAVE, SO, UM, IT WAS A VERY INTERESTING, UH, REPORT AND , UH, WE'RE GONNA GO BACK AND KIND OF INVESTIGATE NOT JUST OUR BASELINE WITH WHAT WE HAVE NOW, UH, WITH GO ZERO, BUT THEN POTENTIAL, UH, EXPANSION OF THE PROGRAM TO THIS PARK AS WELL AS MAYBE PERFECT. SO MORE TO COME ON THAT AND THEN, UH, THE LAST THING WAS BIRTHDAY TO ARBOR DAY PLANNING, EVERYTHING'S FULL SPEED AHEAD. UM AND BE IT COULD BE A WILD WEEK. BUT WHAT ARE THE DATES AGAIN FOR THAT? UM, IT'S A GREAT QUESTION. YEAH, I KNOW. DAY I CAN LOOK UP BARBER DAY THE LAST WEEK IN APRIL, UM SO THE E WASTE DRIVE AND THE HAZARDOUS HOUSEHOLD WASTE DRIVE WILL BE COMBINED. THOSE WILL BE ON. UM, APRIL 27TH. OK? PERFECT. THANKS AND IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT EARTH PEAKS, UH, PROPOSAL. THEY'VE GOT PRICING AS WELL AS KIND OF WHO THEY ARE. I

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CAN SHARE THAT AS WELL. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU FOR THE UPDATE. UH, ANY UPDATE FROM THE IDEA IMPLEMENTATION PANEL. SO UM, THIS PICTURE? UH, HERE IS, UM, A MOST MOST OF NOT EVERYONE THAT NEEDS SOUP AT OUR SUPER SUPPER ON FEBRUARY 7. IT SEEMS LIKE A LONG TIME AGO. UM BUT IT WAS SO MUCH FUN. UM WE WERE AT THE HEIGHT CENTER AND, UM, CASEY BEAT ME BY ONE VOTE. UM. FULL DISCLOSURE I TO ANDREW ONE. WELL I GOT ONE. I GOT ONE VOTE. I ONLY GOT ONE AND I DIDN'T EVEN VOTE. THE WINNING SOUPS WERE OUT OF THIS WORLD. UM IT WAS A GREAT UH, IT WAS JUST GREAT. IT WAS A GREAT NAME. EVERYONE WAS HAVING FUN. EVERYONE WAS REALLY, UM, YOU KNOW, CONNECTING AND UM, IT WAS IT WAS REALLY GOOD. MEAN ANYTHING TO ANYBODY? IT IT WAS INCREDIBLE. IT WAS INCREDIBLE EVENING WE HAD WE SERVED LIKE OVER 202 150 PEOPLE SO THAT EVENING, AND EVERYBODY CAME AND DONATED FOR THE FOOD PANTRY AND WHAT WAS REALLY ALSO JUST SO COOL WAS THERE WAS A VERY STRONG UH UH OF ETHNICITY AND HIS HISTORY IN PEOPLE'S RECIPES. UH, WE HAD, UH, FAMILY FROM THAT.

THAT IS A CLIENT OF THE FOOD PANTRY. UH, THAT WE ASSISTED. SOME OF THE INGREDIENTS THAT THEY MADE ONE OF THEIR FAMILY RECIPES AND, UM. HELP ME SANDRA RODRIGUEZ, TOO, AS A HUSBAND AND SHE'S SHE'S UH, WHAT IS HER TITLE WITH HIM? JEN I I'M NOT SURE IF I HAVE HER TITLE CORRECTLY, BUT SHE'S A HIGH LEVEL EXECUTIVE WITH THE AND HER HUSBAND DID FOUR DIFFERENT. VERY UH UH, I, I THINK YOU KNOW FROM THE HISPANIC BACKGROUND SOUPS THAT THAT WE COULDN'T COMPETE.

IT WASN'T A FAIR FIGHT. THE MAN SHOWED UP IN THE CHEF OUTFIT WITH HE HAD BOUGHT THE RIGHT NEXT TO HIM. HE LOOKS LIKE YEAH, LIKE HE HAD, LIKE THE PROFESSIONAL PARTS AND LIKE YOU GOT YOUR SOUP FROM HIM. THERE WAS A MUSCLE ON TOP, OR THERE WAS A I'M LIKE I GOT VEGETABLE SOUP. ANYBODY. IT WAS REALLY GOOD, BUT IT WAS. IT WAS JUST A REALLY GREAT EVENING. IT WAS IN EVERY WAY. I THOUGHT I THOUGHT PEOPLE REALLY ENJOYED IT. PEOPLE STAYED FOREVER. IT WAS, UM IN HONESTLY LIKE IT WAS $5 A PERSON $20 A FAMILY. YEAH. AND THERE WERE 20 DIFFERENT SOUPS. UM THERE WERE DESSERTS THERE WERE I MEAN, IT WAS LIKE TO SERVE DRINKS, WINE, BEER OR JUST AND THERE WAS NO ALCOHOL. UH, THERE WERE IN. IT'S KUDOS. ONCE AGAIN TO OUR STAFF. ADRIAN IS PRESENTS SHE, YOU KNOW, AND ABBY AND MANY OTHERS PUT A LOT OF TIME INTO THIS STUFF. AND WE REALLY WE CAN'T THANK YOU ENOUGH. I MEAN, YOU REALLY CREATE OR CREATING THESE INCREDIBLE IF YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT COMMUNITY CONNECT US. THAT'S THAT WAS A CONNECTION. EVENING IT'S WONDERFUL. I'M SURE WILL BE EVEN MAYBE, OUTDONE BY OUR NEXT EVENT COMING UP ON MARCH 14TH THE EMPOWER HER EVENT WHICH WILL BE AT THE ESTATES. REGISTRATION IS LIVE, DO WE? I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T WANT TO PAY ON THE SPOT TO ASK HOW MANY PEOPLE WE HAVE. BUT THERE'S IT'S NOT. IT'S NOT FULL. AND I'M SURE YOU NEED TO SIGN UP SOON. YES, WE, UM, I THINK WE'RE AT LIKE 30 RIGHT NOW, UH, WE? YEAH SIGN UP SOON ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO SIGN UP, SHARE IT ON SOCIAL MEDIA EMAIL PEOPLE. UM, WE'D LOVE TO FILL IT UP. IT'S JUST GONE LIVE. I THINK SO IT'S UH, ON MARCH 14TH. IT IS A IT IS AN EVENT. UM CELEBRATING, UM, THE INSPIRING WOMEN OF NEW ALBANY. UM MEN AND WOMEN ARE ENCOURAGED TO COME AND GATHER AND, UM, EAT A DELICIOUS DINNER. UM, THE FOOD IS A DINNER THAT WILL BE PROVIDED. AND UM, WE HAVE A REALLY EXCITING PANEL. UM, THAT'S GOING TO BE DISCUSSING. UM, SOME, YOU KNOW.

QUESTIONS ABOUT, UM, THEIR LIVES AND, UM, THE ROLE THAT WOMEN HAVE PLAYED IN THEIR LIVES AND, UM, WHAT IT'S LIKE TO BE A WOMAN AND THE CITY AND, UM THEN YOU KNOW THE AUDIENCE WILL BE ENCOURAGED TO DISCUSS AS WELL SO IT SHOULD BE A REALLY, REALLY GREAT EVENT. WE'VE GOT ANGELA AND MODERATING A PANEL TO TALK, AND WE'RE TRYING TO HAVE DIFFERENT WOMEN OF DIFFERENT AGES AND DIFFERENT. UH YOU KNOW, LIFE EXPERIENCES AND WHAT IT'S BEEN LIKE TO BE A RESIDENT OF THE OF THE CITY AND THE CHALLENGES AND THE, UH AND THE GOOD STUFF, SO WANTED TO FEEL GOOD AND FEEL POWERFUL. SO UM, WE'RE REALLY, REALLY EXCITED FOR IT. UM DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING FROM

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THE MEETING? THAT WAS IT WAS IT MOSTLY FOCUSED ON THE IT WAS MAINLY PLANNING FOR THE POWDER EVENT. UM SO JUST KIND OF WRAPPING UP THE DETAILS AND GETTING THAT MOVING. SURE.

THAT'S IT. ALL RIGHT. WELL THANKS FOR THE REPORT. WE KNOW NOT TO HAVE A SOCOM PETITION WITH ANTONIO MOVING FORWARD. NO. NOT EVEN CLOSE. THAT'S GOOD TO HEAR. ANY UPDATE FROM THE CEMETERY RESTORATION ADVISORY BOARD, NO MEETING ALL RIGHT, AND NO MEETING OF THE PUBLIC RECORDS COMMISSION. RIGHT CORRESPONDENCE OR COMMUNICATION. HAS ANYONE FROM THE COUNCIL RECEIVED ANY CORRESPONDENCE OR COMMUNICATION SINCE OUR LAST MEETING THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON I HAVE A CORRESPONDENCE I WANTED THAT RELATES TO ONE OF THE CASES THAT I'LL PROVIDE INFORMATION ON LATER, BUT NOTHING. I THINK THE CLERK PASSED THAT OUT. YES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT, THEN WE'LL SAVE THAT FOR THE RESOLUTION. UH ORDINANCE, THE SECOND READING OF

[9. SECOND READING OF ORDINANCES AND PUBLIC HEARING]

ORDS AND PUBLIC HEARING ORDINANCE, 003 2024, NOR TO DETERMINE THE ANNUAL COMPENSATION AND BENEFITS OF THE MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS AND ADDITIONAL SALARY FOR THE MAYOR, PRESIDENT PRO TEM OR DESIGNATED COUNCIL MEMBER. PRESIDING OVER MAYERS COURT. CLERK MASON SECTION 404 OF THE CITY'S CHARTER AUTHORIZES COUNSEL TO ANNUALLY DETERMINE YOUR COMPENSATION CAN DO BY EMERGENCY HAS TO BE DONE BY ORDINANCE. THIS IS IT FOR 2024. UH, THE LAST ORDINANCE WAS ADOPTED JANUARY 2023 OF LAST YEAR. THIS ORDINANCE WOULD INCREASE COUNCIL SALARY BY 3% WHICH IS COMMENSURATE WITH THE ANNUAL INCREASE THAT COUNCIL GRANTED TO STAFF. THE ADJUSTED SALARY WOULD BE EFFECTIVE JANUARY 1 2024 AND THE AMOUNTS WERE APPROPRIATED IN THE 2024 BUDGET. THIS ORDINANCE ALSO CONTAINS LANGUAGE, WHICH MAKES COUNSEL ELIGIBLE TO SIGN UP FOR HEALTH INSURANCE BENEFITS DURING OPEN ENROLLMENT. EVIDENCE OR ANY QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS ON THE ORDINANCE? A SECOND READING, WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING WHAT ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC LIKE TO SPEAK REGARDING ORDINANCE 003 2024. HEARING NO PUBLIC COMMENT. I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND MOVE FOR THE ADOPTION OF ORDINANCE. 032 24 2ND. THERE'S THE COUNCIL MEMBER COUNCIL MEMBER DEREK COUNCIL MEMBER FELLOWS. YES, COUNCIL MEMBER KISS? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER WILL YES, I HAVE SIX. YES VOTES WITHOUT ORDINANCE, 003 2024 OR 004 2024 NORDEN TO ESTABLISH THE VILLAGE CENTER CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUND. THE MEN CHAPTER 181 INCOME TAX IN CHAPTER 187 FUNDS OF THE CITY OF NEW ALVING, OHIO COD FIRED ORES, AS REQUESTED BY THE CITY OF WAL. DIRECTOR THOUGHT I AM NOT. I APOLOGIZE. I JUST LOOKED UP. I'M GONNA FOLLOW MY SCREW. SORRY YOUR NAME PLATE IS ON ORDER. THAT'S FINE. I AM BETHANY'S BACKUP TONIGHT. UM AT THE PREVIOUS COUNCIL MEETING. UM WE PRESENTED THIS ORDINANCE. THE PURPOSE OF THE ORDINANCE IS TO ESTABLISH THE VILLAGE CENTER CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUND DURING THE 2024 BUDGET PROCESS, THE CITY EVALUATED THE NEEDS FOR VARIOUS CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS WITHIN THE VILLAGE CENTER, AND IT WAS DETERMINED THAT IN ORDER TO FUND THOSE TYPES OF PROJECTS THAT WE ESTABLISH A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUND AS A REMINDER THE FUND WILL RECEIVE 1.5% OF THE GENERAL MUNICIPAL INCOME TAX COLLECTIONS , BEGINNING WITH FEBRUARY 2020 FOUR'S DISTRIBUTION FROM RITA, UM, AND AS A REMINDER THAT DISTRIBUTION HAS RECEIVED ONE MONTH IN ARREARS SO EFFECTIVELY, THAT WOULD BE JANUARY'S AMOUNTS. THIS LEGISLATION FORMALLY AUTHORIZES THE CREATION OF THE FUND AND ALSO THE AMENDMENTS NEEDED IN CITY CODE CHART CITY CODE CHAPTER 181 AND 187. THAT IS IT. ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS ON THE ORDINANCE? THE SECOND READING? NO, I OPEN THE HANG ON. I CAN'T REMEMBER IF WE TALKED ABOUT IT. DOES THIS. ORDINANCE DEFINE WHAT IS THE VILLAGE CENTER. NOT SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE THAT HAS THE POTENTIAL TO CHANGE THAT WE WERE GOING TO, UM, GENERALLY REFERENCE OUR PLANNING DOCUMENTS THAT DETECT THE BULLETS ARE AND THAT WAY IT IS, AS IT WOULD CHANGE THEN WE COULD WE COULD MODIFY IT, OK? SO IS IT THE INTENT? DOES IT PICK UP HISTORICAL VILLAGE CENTER CAUSE I KNOW THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE WHERE THE AND WHAT WAS DRIVING THIS BUT DOES THAT ALSO INCLUDE MARKET STREET AND THOSE AREAS AS WELL? THE ENTIRE VILLAGE CENTER, OK? UM, AS IT'S DESCRIBED IN OUR PLANNING DOCUMENTS NOW IT BASICALLY ENCOMPASSES WINDSOR. UH, THE AREA ACROSS THE STREET, THE FIRE STATION AND THEN EVERYTHING SOUTH TO, UH, MARKET STREET. UM THE SOUTH SIDE OF MARKET STREET, UM, E CROSSING RICHMOND SQUARE AND THAT THAT AREA OK? RIGHT. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? OPEN THE WHERE ANYONE PUBLIC LIKE TO SPEAK REGARDING ORDINANCE, 04 2024. HEARING NO PUBLIC COMMENT. WE CLOSE THE

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PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE A MOTION ON THE ORDINANCE? I'M HERE FOR THE ADOPTION OF ORDINANCE. 04 2024 2ND. COUNCIL MEMBER CAST COUNCIL MEMBER FLO COUNCIL MEMBER DEREK COUNCIL MEMBER BRISK MAYOR SPALDING COUNCIL MEMBER. WELL, YES, I HAVE SIX YES VOTES TO A ORDINANCE 004 2024. FIRST READING OF ORDINANCES ORDINANCE 005 2024 IN ORDINANCE TO AMEND

[10. INTRODUCTION AND FIRST READING OF ORDINANCES]

CHAPTER 137.01 SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD ESTABLISHING MEMBERSHIP TERM AND VACANCY OF THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY, OHIO'S CODIFIED WARRANTS, AS REQUESTED BY THE CITY OF COURT. MASON. THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD WAS ESTABLISHED IN JUNE OF 2021, AND IT IS ALSO IN CITY CODE SECTION 137, THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD OF SEVEN MEMBERS, UH ONE NON VOTING STUDENT MEMBER AND ONE NON VOTING COUNCIL LIAISON. THE ADVICE THE SAB WORKS CLOSELY WITH ALBANY C LOCAL SCHOOL DISTRICT ON PROJECTS LIKE TREE PLANTING OR CYCLING COMPOSTING SUPPORTING THE SCHOOLS GRANT APPLICATION FOR WATER REFILLING STATIONS FUNDING THE STUDENT SUSTAINABILITY GRANT PROGRAM. SO IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN CLOSE TO CLOSE TIES, FACILITATE COMMUNICATION. UH THIS ORDINANCE WILL AMEND THE CITY'S CODE TO STATE THAT ONE OF THE BOARD POSITIONS MAY BE A TEACHER OR ADMINISTRATOR FROM THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, AND THAT TEACHER OR ADMINISTRATOR DOES NOT ALSO HAVE TO BE A RESIDENT, SO OTHERWISE RESIDENCY WOULD BE REQUIRED.

THAT'S THE CODE CHANGE. AND THEY THAT POSITION? UH, IT STILL IS APPOINTED BY COUNSEL. BUT TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY, WE'VE HAD SOME SUCCESS HAVING MEMBERS OF THE PLAIN LOCAL SCHOOL DISTRICT, UM, PLAY A KEY ROLE IN THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD AND WANTED TO JUST KEEP THAT OPTION OPEN. IN CASE WE HAVE A FACULTY MEMBER OR MEMBER OF STAFF. THAT, UH, HAPPENS NOT TO LIVE IN NEW ALBANY. THAT WAS SORT OF THE PURPOSE OF THAT. BUT AGAIN, IT UM IT'S A SORT OF A NEW BOARD. WE'RE GOING THROUGH, UM, SOME CHANGES AND, UH I JUST I THINK IT'S A IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO ALLOW FOR THAT FLEXIBILITY AND FLEXIBLE. IT'S NOT REQUIRED TO BE A TEACHING POSITION JUST CAN BE. I MEAN, A LOT OF THE INITIATIVES THAT THE SAB ADDRESSES IS CLOSELY TIED TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. AND WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT IMPACT, YOU'VE GOT 5000 KIDS, SO IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, IT'S BASICALLY HALF OUR CITY THAT VISITS US FIVE DAYS A WEEK, SO UM IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS BIGGER THAN THE CITY . SO UM, IT IT KIND OF MADE SENSE TO KIND OF CODIFY THAT TIE TO THE DISTRICT SO AND THAT'S WHY YOU'RE SEEING STRANGE. MAKES SENSE. ALL RIGHT. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? AND WE'LL SET THAT UP FOR PUBLIC READING HER SECOND READING IN PUBLIC HEARING AT OUR MEETING ON MARCH 5TH. ORDINANCE 006 2024 AND ORDINANCE TO AMEND THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE AL BY AMENDING THE ZONING MAP TO REZONE 9.9 PLUS OR MINUS ACRES OF LAND, LOCATED AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF JOHNSTOWN ROAD AND THOMPSON ROAD FROM AGRICULTURAL AND RESIDENTIAL ESTATE DISTRICT, R ONE TO INFILL PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT IP UD FOR AN AREA TO BE KNOWN AS THE OAKLAND NURSERY ZONING DISTRICT, AS REQUESTED BY OAKLAND NURSERY CARE. ERIN UNDERHILL, ESQUIRE. MR MAYOR. THANK YOU. SO LOCAL AND NURSERY. UH, JUST ANNEX. I THINK WE'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH WHERE THAT IS LOCATED AT THE CORNER OF THOMPSON AND JOHNSTOWN ROAD, SO THIS REZONING ALLOWS FOR THE CONTINUED USE OF THE GARDEN CENTER AS IT EXISTS THERE TODAY, AND THIS ALSO INCLUDES THE ADJACENT PROPERTY AND I'LL CALL TO THE SOUTH OF IT. THAT'S RIGHT ALONG HERE ALONG JOHNSTOWN ROAD, AND SO THIS REZONING ALSO, UH, INCLUDES THIS ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY, AND SO IT ALLOWS FOR AN EXPANSION OF THE COMMERCIAL PARKING LOT TO THE SOUTH ON THE PROPERTY EXISTS TODAY. IT ALSO ALLOWS FOR HOUSING OF SEASONAL STAFF AND STORAGE OF PRODUCTS WITHIN JUST THE GARAGE AND BARN. THAT'S UM ARE PART OF THAT HOME, SO THE EXTERIOR OF THE RESIDENTIAL HOME WILL BE KEPT, UM, AS IT IS TODAY, IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN THE CHARACTER OF THE HOUSE IN STRUCTURE AND ALL THE OTHER EXISTING BUILDING ARCHITECTURE THAT'S AT THE GARDEN CENTER OF THIS HOME IS ALLOWED TO REMAIN, BUT ANYTHING NEW, UM, MUST MEET THE CITY'S DESIGN GUIDELINES AND REQUIREMENTS FOR ARCHITECTURE. THE APPLICANT HAS ALSO COMMITTED TO RIGHT OF PLAY IN EASEMENTS ALONG ALL THE PUBLIC ROADWAYS. SO THOMPSON AND 62 HERE, UM, WITHIN THAT ZONING TEXT. AS PART OF THE PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN. THERE'S ALSO A LANDSCAPE COMPONENT FOR THE, UH, EXPANSION OF THE PARKING LOTS. AND SO, UH, HERE, UH, WHEN THE PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEWED AND APPROVED , THEY ALSO PUT A CONDITION AND THIS IS IN THE ZONING TEXT THAT ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING HEADLIGHTS SCREENING LIKE YOU TYPICALLY TYPICALLY SEE A PARKING LOTS IS ADDED TO THE SOUTH SIDE, SO THIS WILL BE ADDED AND INSURED. IT'S COMPLIANCE AT THE TIME OF PERMITTING FOR CONSTRUCTION. OTHERWISE THEY ARE PROVIDING UH, 75% BUFFER LANDSCAPING ALONG THE , UH, PORTION WHERE THE NEW, UH, PARKING LOT IS BEHIND THE

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BUILDING. THERE IS EXISTING LANDSCAPING ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER, UM, THAT WE BELIEVE PROVIDES THE REST OF THE NECESSARY SCREENING AND THEN THE TYPICAL HEADLIGHT SCREENING IN STREET TREES ALONG US 62. SO THE PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEWED AND RECOMMENDED APPROVAL BY A VOTE OF 5 TO 0 BACK IN JANUARY, AND THE STAFF IS HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. STAY COULD YOU EXPLAIN A LITTLE MORE ABOUT THE HOME THAT'S BEING PRESERVED FOR HOUSING OF EMPLOYEES? HOW IS THAT HOUSING GOING TO BE SET UP? IS IT UH, THEY'RE GONNA JUST RENT ROOMS FROM THE HOUSE OR DO WE KNOW WHAT THAT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE? SO I KNOW THAT IT'S A FOUR BEDROOM HOUSE, AND THAT'S UH WE HAVE TALKED TO OUR CHIEF BUILDING OFFICIAL. AND SO THAT'S ONLY TO BE A CHANGE OF OCCUPANCY. SO WE WILL DO A, UH, INSPECTION AND WILL BE NEEDED. THEY WILL NEED TO BE SOME ADDITIONAL, UH, PERMITS ACQUIRED , UH, BUT OTHERWISE, AS FAR AS THE LOGISTICS GO, UM AS FAR AS LIKE RENTAL THAT'S UP TO THE PROPERTY AND TO DETERMINE OK, BUT NOW THAT IT'S GONNA BE A RENTAL PROPERTY, IT DOES IT CHANGE. WE NEED TO BE ABLE. WE NEED TO HAVE ACCESS TO DO THE INSPECTIONS TO APPROVE THAT. YEP JUST LIKE WITH ANY OTHER BUSINESS. UH, SO THIS IS CONSIDERED IN THE EYES OF THE BUILDING CODE MORE OF A COMMERCIAL USE RATHER THAN A RESIDENTIAL USE. GOOD. THAT'S WHAT I NEED TO KNOW. THANKS. SO AM I TO UNDERSTAND THAT NOTHING'S CHANGING HERE OTHER THAN THE PARKING LOT AND THE FACT THAT THEY WANNA BE ANNEXED INTO THE CITY. ESSENTIALLY YEAH, AND THEN, UH OR AND THEN OTHERWISE, JUST CHANGING THIS WHAT WAS TYPICALLY YOU KNOW, A RESIDENTIAL HOME OVER TO MORE OF A COMMERCIAL TYPE US FOR STORAGE AND HOUSING OF SEASONAL EMPLOYEES. BUT YES. OTHERWISE UM, BY AS FAR AS ANY CONSTRUCTION OR CHANGING OF THE PROPERTY, THE PARKING IS REALLY THE ONLY THING THAT'S BEING DONE . THAT IS CORRECT. OK DO WE HAVE , UH, IDEA AS TO WHY THE AEX SE HAS WAS REQUESTED? UH, I KNOW WE WORKED WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER. UH, THE VICE PRESIDENT OF OAKLAND NURSE HERE, MARK. UH RAINER IS HERE TONIGHT. AND SO I THINK YOU CAN MAYBE MIGHT BE ABLE TO SHED SOME INSIGHT ONTO THAT AS WELL. SORRY COULD YOU REPEAT YOU? WE I. I PERSONALLY HAD A NUMBER OF PEOPLE SAYING TO ME SO WHY? WHY ARE THEY ATING INTO THE CITY? IF THEY'RE JUST BASICALLY STAYING THE SAME, SO I GUESS I WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO ANSWER THAT WITH, YOU KNOW. SOME MORE INFORMATION. WE'VE OWNED THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY FOR FOUR OR FIVE YEARS NOW. AND THAT HAS ALWAYS BEEN IN THE CITY. UM, THE NATION ITSELF WAS IN PLAIN TOWNSHIP. SO TO GAIN, UH, THE LAND TO BE ABLE TO CREATE THE PARKING AREA WE NEEDED. WE NEEDED TO BRING THE REST OF THE PROPERTY INTO THE, UM INTO THE CITY. UM, AS SO WE COULD COMBINE THE PROPERTIES AS ONE SO IT'S TO COMBINE THE PARCELS. THAT WAS THE MAIN PURPOSE. OK THAT HELPS ME A LOT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I HAVE A QUESTION. ARE YOU GONNA DO ANY UPGRADES TO THE HOME TO BEAUTIFY THAT AREA, THE HOME OR OTHER THAN LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE GONNA DO LANDSCAPING ON THE CURB . THERE'S SOME LANDSCAPING PLANNED. WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING IN PARTICULAR PLANNED, BUT, UM, WE ARE AWARE THAT YOU KNOW, UH AS AN EXTENSION OF OUR BUSINESS.

WE WANTED TO LOOK GOOD. SO YOU KNOW, WE ARE ALWAYS LOOKING TO I KNOW, I GUESS. LAST YEAR WE REPLACED THE GARAGE DOOR. I MEAN, JUST LIKE ANY OTHER HOMEOWNER, WE'RE WE'RE DOING WHATEVER IT TAKES TO KIND OF KEEP UP THE PROPERTY. I DIDN'T GET FOR THE RECORD. WILL YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR AFFILIATION WITH HILTON, MARK REINER WITH OAKLAND NURSERY.

THANK YOU. IS, UH IS THE TOWNSHIP AWARE AND IN AGREEMENT WITH ALL THE CHANGE. JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY. SO WE'VE NOTIFIED, UM , THE TOWNSHIP OF THE ANNEXATION AND THE REZONING REQUEST. WELL, THEY DEFINITELY KNOW THAT FEEDBACK. NO, I DON'T. I DON'T BELIEVE SO. OK JUST GREAT. UH I HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION, WHICH IS SOMEWHAT SELFISH IS THE FARMER'S MARKET COMING BACK THIS YEAR. THAT WAS ACTUALLY WRITTEN INTO THE TEXT. SO YEAH, THAT IS, UH, THAT'S GOOD PLACES SO VERY MUCH ENJOYED THAT. I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE. YEAH, THANKS. YEAH. THAT'S GREAT. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THAT MARK WHILE WE HAVE THEM AT THE PODIUM ALL RIGHT, AND ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS ON THE ORDINANCE. ALRIGHT. WELL THANK YOU FOR COMING THIS EVENING. WE'LL GO AHEAD AND SET THAT FOR SECOND READING AND PUBLIC HEARING AT OUR MEETING ON MARCH 5TH.

ORDINANCE 07 2024 NO ORDINANCE TO ACCEPT A 21.47 ACRE CONSERVATION EASEMENT AS REQUESTED BY NBJ HOLDINGS, LLC AND MY CHEAT SHEET, SAYS RYAN OLI, BUT I KNOW HE'S NOT HERE.

BUT WHAT WOULD RYAN SAY IF HE WAS HE WOULD ANTICIPATE ALL OF YOUR QUESTIONS. I UNDERSTAND.

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KYLER YOU GOT SOME BIG SHOES TO FILL, JUST AS YOU KNOW. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. UM THE CONSERVATION AREA IS, UM, GENERALLY LOCATED NORTH OF MORSE ROAD AND WEST OF BEACH ROAD IN LICKING COUNTY. THEY'RE THE RED AND YELLOW AREAS YOU SEE UP THERE? THIS LEGISLATION SERVES AS AN ESSENTIAL COMPONENT OF THE PERMITTING PROCESS, ALIGNING WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF BOTH THE OHIO EPA AND THE US ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS, THE INTENTION BEHIND THE CONVEYANCE OF THIS CONSERVATION EASEMENT AREA TO THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY IS TO ENSURE THE LONG TERM CONSERVATION AND PROTECTION OF THE PROPERTY. WITHIN THE MENT AREA. MULTIPLE CO CONSERVATION VALUES HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED, WHICH INCLUDE CONSERVING THE PROTECTING THE OVERALL ECOLOGICAL INTEGRITY OF THE AREA , AND THE EASEMENT AGREEMENT SETS FORTH RESTRICTIONS DESIGNED TO ENSURE THE PERPETUAL CONSERVATION OF THE AREA. AMONG THESE RESTRICTIONS ARE PROHIBITIONS AGAINST COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL ACTIVITIES, CONSTRUCTION OF MANMADE STRUCTURES OR ALTERATIONS, VEGETATION CUTTING OR DESTRUCTION, ALTERING LAND SURFACES, DUMPING INTERFERENCE WITH NATURAL WATERCOURSES INSTALLATION OF NEW UTILITY LINES AND OTHER ACTIVITIES THAT COULD ENDANGER THE ECOLOGICAL INTEGRITY OF THE AREA. ACCEPTING THIS CONSERVATION EASEMENT IS ADVANTAGEOUS TO THE CITY AS IT PROMOTES ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP AND AIDS IN MAINTAINING THE REGION'S ECOLOGICAL BALANCE, JUST LIKE ALL THE OTHER CONSERVATION EASEMENTS IN THE PAST. BY ACCEPTING THIS EASEMENT, THE CITY DOES NOT INHERIT LEGAL RESPONSIBILITY FOR POTENTIAL VIOLATIONS OF THE AGREEMENT BY THE OWNER OR ANY THIRD PARTY. STAFF IS HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ORDINANCE? I CAN'T MAKE OUT ON THE MAP WHERE THAT IS. UM YOU MEAN AS FAR AS LIKE ROADS. UM SO, BABBITT, UM. OK I. I WAS RUNNING NORTH SOUTH. THANK YOU. I WAS THINKING NORTH BEACH, BUT THAT'S SOUTH. YEAH. YEAH. YEAH, NORTH IS AT THE TOP. YEAH. NOW I GOT IT NOW, OK? I MEAN, I GUESS I'D I'D ALWAYS, UH I GUESS I'VE FORGOTTEN THAT THERE WAS ALREADY A PART OF THAT WAS A PRESERVATION ZONE. SO IT'S NICE TO SEE THAT WHOLE THING. UM COME TOGETHER. HAVE A NICE LITTLE GREEN SCAPE ALONG BEACH ROAD. UM ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS REGARDING THE ORDINANCE? AND IT IT DOES. STOP SHORT OF VIET ROAD. IT'S JUST WHAT'S HIGHLIGHTED THERE.

CORRECT. THAT SLIVER ALONG BEACH STILL OUT OF THE CONSERVATION, SO YOU KNOW IF WE EVER CAN'T FIGURE OUT THAT INTERSECTION DOWN THERE, I WOULDN'T WANT THIS TO PRECLUDE US FROM BEING ABLE TO DO SOME SORT OF ROUNDABOUT IN THE FUTURE, OK? THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. WE WILL SET THAT FOR A SECOND READING AND PUBLIC HEARING OR A MEETING ON MARCH

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5TH. RESOLUTIONS RESOLUTION R 4224 A RESOLUTION TO APPROVE TWO VARIANCES TO ALLOW AN OPEN PAVER PATIO TO ENCROACH A PED CONSERVATION AREA AND B TO ALLOW A HOME ADDITION TO ENCROACH THE REAR YARD BUILDING SETBACK AND CONSERVATION AREA AT 5823 CALVERTON SQUARE, AS REQUESTED BY THE COLUMBUS ARCHITECTURAL STUDIO CARE OF THAD AND SUZANNE PERRY. THANK YOU, MA'AM. SO THIS HOUSE IS LOCATED WITHIN THE RESERVE AT NEW ALBANY SUBDIVISION THAT'S OUTLINED IN RED HERE. SO THE PROPERTY OWNER SUBMITTED A BUILDING PERMIT TO CONSTRUCT A NEW SCREENED IN PORCH HOME EDITION. UM OVER AN EXISTING PAPER PATIO ON THE REAR OF THE HOUSE LAST YEAR DURING STAFF'S INITIAL REVIEW OF THAT APPLICATION, IT WAS DISCOVERED THAT THE THAT THE HOME EDITION AND THE EXISTING PATIO PATIO PAVER BOTH ENCROACH INTO AN EXISTING CONSERVATION EASEMENTS.

AND UH, THE CITY STAFF CANNOT LOCATE ANY RECORDS OR VARIANCES OR PERMITS ISSUED FOR THE PAVER PATIO, SO THEREFORE THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING THE TWO VARIANCES THAT YOU MENTIONED.

ONE IS TO ALLOW THE PAPER PATIO TO, UH, REMAIN AS IT EXISTS TODAY, AND THEN THE SECOND VARIANCE IS, UM, RELATED TO A HOME EDITION OFF THE BACK, AND SO THIS IS SHOWING THE PROPERTY OUTLINE HERE. SO EVERYTHING IN GREEN THIS IS THE CONSERVATION AREA AND THEN THE RED IS A BUILDING. THAT BACK. SO THE FIRST VARIANT IN PURPLE, THIS IS THE OUTLINE OF THE PATIO. IT EXTENDS 9 FT FROM THE EDGE OF THE CONSERVATION ZONE. INTO UH, THE CONSERVATION AREA ITSELF.

AND THEN THE BLUE IS THE NEW HOME FOOTPRINT. SO THIS NEW PROPOSED HOME EDITION, THE SCREENED IN PORCH, IT'S LOCATED ONLY OVER THE EXISTING PATIO AND IT ENCROACHES. UM THERE'S TWO

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STANDARDS HERE. THE FIRST IS INTO THE CONSERVATION AREA, SO IT ENCROACHES INTO THE CONSERVATION AREA BY 4 FT. THE GREEN AND THEN THE SECOND STANDARD IS A BUILDING SETBACK.

SO THIS RED LINE DENOTES A BUILDING SETBACK. UM, THAT'S AT THE SAME. OF THE EDGE OF THE CONSERVATION ZONE. AND SO THE NEW, UH, HOME EDITION ALSO ENCROACHES 4 FT INTO THAT BUILDING SETBACK. SO FOR, UH, COUNCILS CONSIDERATION. UM IT THERE ARE THERE ARE SPECIAL CONDITIONS AND CIRCUMSTANCES THAT DO THAT DO NOT RESULT FROM THE ACTION OF THE APPLICANT FOR THE FIRST VARIANCE WE BASED ON AERIALS. WE BELIEVE THAT PAPER PATIO WAS INSTALLED SOMETIME BETWEEN 97 AND 2000. THE CURRENT HOMEOWNERS THAT AND SUZANNE PERRY PURCHASED THE HOME IN 2023. THE VARIANT ALSO DOES NOT APPEAR TO BE SUBSTANTIAL, UH FOR THE PAPER PATIO. THE TOTAL AREA IS ONLY ABOUT 4% OF THE ENTIRE CONSERVATION AREA ON THE LOT ITSELF. AND THEN ALSO, UH IF IT WASN'T FOR THAT CONSERVATION EASEMENT, THIS PATIO WOULD BE ALLOWED, UH, TO REMAIN AS PERMITTED. UH, THE PA THE PATIO SET BACK ITSELF IS 20 FT FROM THE REAR PROPERTY LINE, SO THIS IS NOT EXCEEDING IT, SO IT'S MEETING ALL THE CODE REQUIREMENTS FOR PATIOS IN AND OF ITSELF. FOR VARYING BE FOR THE HOME EDITION. SOME UH, ITEMS FOR COUNCIL TO CONSIDER IS THIS VARIANCE DOES ALSO DOES NOT APPEAR TO BE SUBSTANTIAL. THE AREA OF ENCROACHMENT FOR THE HOME EDITION IS LESS THAN 2% OF THE ENTIRE CONSERVATION AREA AT 1.8% IT DOES APPEAR THAT THIS PROBLEM CAN BE SOLVED IN SOME OTHER MANNER THAN A GRANTING OF A VARIANCE BY REDUCING THE SIZE OF THIS HOME EDITION. UH AND THERE DOESN'T APPEAR TO BE SPECIAL CONDITIONS OR CIRCUMSTANCES AS THIS EASEMENT RAPS. UH, THE MAJORITY OF THE OUTSIDE OF THE SUBDIVISION OF THOSE HOMES LOCATED THERE. HOWEVER THIS UH THIS HOME EDITION UH, AS I MENTIONED DOES NOT IMPACT ANY NEW LAND WITHIN THE CONSERVATION AREA AS IT WILL BE BUILT SOLELY WHERE THE PATIO EXISTS TODAY. UH, GRANTING THE VARIANTS WILL NOT ADVERSELY AFFECT THE HEALTH AND SAFETY OF PERSONS RESIDING OR WORKING IN THE VICINITY, AND IT WON'T BE MATERIAL DETRIMENTAL TO THE PUBLIC WELFARE OR INTEREST TO PRIVATE PROPERTY OR PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS IN THE VICINITY.

ALSO GRANTING A VARIANCE WOULD NOT ADVERSELY AFFECT THE DELIVERY OF GOVERNMENT SERVICES.

THERE ARE NO EASEMENTS OR OTHER, UH, PUBLIC UTILITIES LOCATED IN THAT REAR PROPERTY. SO LAST MONTH, THE, UH, PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEWED THIS VARIANCE REQUEST. UH, THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF VARIANCE A WHICH, UH, IS THE REQUEST OF THE PAPER PATIO TO ENCROACH THE PLA TO CONSERVATION SPENT BY 9 FT BY THE VOTE OF 5 TO 0, THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS VOTING YES. IT STATED THAT THE REASON IS THAT THE CURRENT HOMEOWNER DID NOT INSTALL THE EXISTING PATIO. IT WAS INSTALLED AT LEAST TWO OWNERS AGO, WHICH IS THEY MENTIONED TOO LONG TO FIX SOMEONE ELSE'S MISTAKE. THEY ALSO FURTHER FOUND THAT THE PATIO ENCROACHMENT WAS NOT EGREGIOUS. FOR VANCE BIG THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED DENIAL OF THE OF THE SCREENED IN PORCH HOME EDITION, UH, BY A VOTE OF 2 TO 3. SO UH, TWO MEMBERS VOTING FOR THE VARIANCE THREE MEMBERS VOTING AGAINST THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS VOTING. NO STATED THE FOLLOWING REASONS. UH, THEY MENTIONED THAT BECAUSE, UNLIKE THE EXISTING PATIO ENCROACHMENT, THIS WAS WITHIN THE CURRENT OWNER CONTROL , UH, THAT THE REQUEST DID NOT MEET THE DUNKIN CRITERIA, AND THAT'S ALTHOUGH PORCH DOES NOT IN, UH, INTRUDE AS MUCH AS THE PAPERS. UH, ANYTHING GROWING AT THE EDGE OF THE PAVERS WILL HAVE A CANOPY THAT IMPACTS THE PORCH.

UH, THEY ALSO MENTIONED THEY DID NOT WANT TO SET A PRECEDENT. AND THEN AN ALTERNATE SOLUTION COULD BE REACHED THAT MEETS ALL THE STANDARDS AND THAT FINALLY, THIS CONSTITUTES A NEW INTRUSION INTO THE EASEMENT AND DOES NOT MEET THE INTENT OF THE TEST. SO AT THE TIME OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION HEARING, THE APPLICANT HAS THREE LETTERS OF SUPPORT THAT THEY PROVIDED. THE PLANNING COMMISSION, INCLUDING DOCUMENTATION SHOWING THAT THEIR HO A HAD APPROVED THE PATIO AND HOME EDITION PLANS SINCE THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S HEARING. WE HAVE UH, LOTS OF ADDITIONAL LETTERS OF SUPPORT THAT HAVE BEEN PROVIDED BY THE HOMEOWNERS THAT WE'VE I BELIEVE CLERK MASON HAS SENT TO YOU, UH, AN EMAIL. UH, FOR YOU TONIGHT, UH, FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. UH AND SO I FORGOT TO SHOW YOU. SO LASTLY, THIS IS, UH, SHOWING THE, UH, PAPER. SO THIS IS THE I'M SORRY.

THE HOME EDITION. SO THIS IS THE EXISTING HOME TODAY. THIS IS WHAT IT'LL LOOK LIKE, UM AFTER THE ADDITION AND SO YOU CAN SEE THE PROJECTION, UM FROM THE BACK OF THE HOME, SO I BELIEVE THE WHOLE THING IS ABOUT 7.5 FT. 8 FT AND AGAIN, THIS PROJECTS 4 FT INTO THE CONSERVATION AREA. AND STAFFS. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. STEVEN I KNOW YOU ARE CAREFUL TO USE THE TERMS THAT

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YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO LIKE HOME EDITION, BUT THIS IS REALLY JUST A ENCLOSED PATIO CORRECT. YEAH I BELIEVE IT IS A, UH, SCREENED IN PORCH THAT'S ATTACHED TO THE HOME. YEAH, OK. SCREEN IN FORCE IS GOING OVER THE PORCH. IT'S ALREADY EXISTING THAT'S ONLY A PORTION OF IT, CAN YOU? YEAH CAN YOU BACK UP ONE, STEVE? ALL RIGHT, SO JUST SO I'M CLEAR THE PURPLE IS THE EXISTING. PATIO THE EXISTING PATIO THAT'S BEEN THERE FOR A LONG TIME. CORRECT AND THEN THE ADDITION IS OUTLINED IN BLUE. WHICH IS SMALLER THAN THE PATIO. CORRECT. WHAT HAPPENS TO THAT PATIO? SO THIS PATCH OF SPACE THIS WILL REMAIN IN PLACE. IT WILL STAY THERE, ASSUMING THAT CITY COUNCIL PROVES THE VARIANCE OF THE PLAN IS FOR THE ADDITION TO BE BUILT AND THE PAPERS TO REMAIN AS THEY ARE TODAY. CORRECT. DID I. I WANNA MAKE SURE I HEARD CORRECTLY. THIS WENT THROUGH THE HO A AND HAS BEEN APPROVED, AS IS UP THERE. CORRECT BECAUSE WHEN I WAS, UH, THE LIAISON FOR PLANNING COMMISSION, AND THEY AND YOU GUYS CAME IN THE FIRST TIME WE CHOSE TO TABLE IT AND SAID, LET GO TALK TO YOUR HO A FIRST, BECAUSE IF YOU CAN GET THEIR APPROVAL THAT COULD GO A LONG WAY TOWARDS OK. JUST. A QUESTION . UM AND I UNDERSTAND THE PATIOS EXISTED, AND IT'S ENCROACHED, ET CETERA. OTHER PROPERTIES ALONG THAT. IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. ARE THERE ANY OTHER PATIOS OF THIS NATURE THAT MIGHT BECOME SITUATION LIKE THIS DOWN THE ROAD. NOT THAT WE'RE AWARE OF. OK? AND I GUESS, JUST TAKE A STEP BACK. THE REASON THIS IS HERE. IS BECAUSE OF THE 1995. ZONING TEXT, SO BASICALLY. WHERE IT WHERE IT GOES TO PLANNING COMMISSION AND THEN TO VILLAGE COUNCIL RATHER THAN PC. A. YEAH THIS MIGHT BE IF NOT THE OLDEST, ONE OF THE OLDEST PD TEXTS WE HAVE IN THE CITY. IT'S VERY UNIQUE IN THAT IT SAYS VARIANCES , UM, SHALL BE HEARD BY PLANNING COMMISSION BUT MUST BE APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL, SO WE TOOK IT TO PLANNING COMMISSION TO HAVE THEM PROVIDE A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL AND THAT PATIO HAS BEEN HERE SINCE YOU SAID 1990 BETWEEN 97 AND THE YEAR 2000. WE BELIEVE SO. IT'S EXISTING ENCROACHING INTO THE AND IT WAS REALLY JUST PUTTING A PORCH ROOF OVER A PORTION OF THE PATIO THAT'S BEEN THERE, THAT'S CORRECT. TO ME. I MEAN, I DON'T I THINK THIS IS OUTSIDE THE DUCKING CRITERIA. THIS ISN'T A COMMON SENSE CRITERIA. I FEEL LIKE IT WOULD BE ACTUALLY IT WOULD BE HARMFUL TO THE PROPERTY TO TAKE A PAPER PATIO THAT HAD BEEN ON THERE FOR, YOU KNOW, 30 YEARS, UM IT WOULD CHANGE THE CHARACTER OF THE PROPERTY IN A WAY THAT WOULD NOT BE CONGRUENT WITH THE WAY THAT IT HAS BEEN EXISTING. AND I FOUND REALLY COMPELLING. UM IN FAVOR OF GRANTING VARIANCE B IS THAT THERE WOULD BE NO ADDITIONAL ENCROACHMENT INTO THAT AREA. I DON'T KNOW IF WE'VE EVER REALLY DONE A DEEP DIVE IN ALL OF OUR TIMES TOGETHER, TALKING ABOUT ZONING, AN AIR ENCROACHMENT IS, YOU KNOW SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE , UM, SOMETHING THAT THE ZONING TECHS WOULD TALK ABOUT, BUT REALLY, IT'S THE LAND IS ALREADY COVERED. IT'S WHAT DO WE DO ON TOP OF THAT? UM AND I FEEL LIKE IT'S NOT VERY MUCH. IT DOESN'T MAKE THAT MUCH SENSE FROM A ZONING PERSPECTIVE TO HAVE VA BE GRANTED IN VARIANCE. B NOT BE GRANTED. UM IT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE DOING ANYTHING BENEFICIAL FOR THE PROPERTY. III I AGREE WITH YOU IN TERMS OF I THINK I'M PROBABLY IN MY I'M OF THE SAME MIND AS YOU IN TERMS OF WHAT? I THINK THE RESULTS SHOULD BE HERE , BUT I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO CLARIFY THAT PLANNING COMMISSION HAS IN THE PAST. I MEAN, THEY WERE VERY CAREFUL HERE TO SORT OF SPLIT THIS AND SAY WE'RE NOT GONNA FORCE THESE PEOPLE TO UNDO SOMETHING THEY'VE DONE FOREVER, BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO APPROVE A FURTHER ENCROACHMENT IF YOU WILL ON THE RIGHT. AND I HAVE SEEN PLANNING COMMISSION MAKE PEOPLE TAKE OUT.

UH STRUCTURES THAT WERE BUILT THAT IT TURNED OUT LATER WERE IN VIOLATION. SO I. I JUST THINK THAT SHOULD BE SAID FOR THE RECORD. HAVING SAID THAT I DO HAPPEN TO AGREE WITH YOU. WE ALREADY HAVE THESE PAPERS HERE. CLEARLY THE H A HAS HAS TO ME. THAT WAS A BIG DEAL, AND THAT'S WHY I REQUESTED THAT. YOU CONSIDER THAT BEFORE YOU ASK PLANNING COMMISSION ABOUT THE FIRST TIME. I THINK IT'S A VERY BIG DEAL THAT THE HO A HAS NOW SAID WILL ALLOW THIS. UM AND OBVIOUSLY THEY HAVE A NUMBER OF NEIGHBORS THAT ARE IN FAVOR OF IT AS WELL. AND OBVIOUSLY WE NOW HAVE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDING WE LEAVE THE PATIO THERE. SO WHAT WE'RE REALLY LEFT WITH IS IT IS IT THE RIGHT ANSWER TO GO AHEAD AND LET THEM AND COVER AND ENCLOSE A PORTION OF THAT PATIO? WHEN WE'RE WE GOT SO MUCH OTHER POSITIVE FEEDBACK AND IT I GUESS I REALLY STRUGGLE

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WITH THE QUESTION OF IS BUILDING ON TOP OF THE PATIO IN ADDITIONAL ENCROACHMENT. I MEAN, I HAVE I HAVE BEEN IN THOSE HARD MEETINGS WHERE WE TAKE HELP PEOPLE TAKE OUT PATIOS THAT THEY MIGHT HAVE JUST PUT IN OR PUT IN , YOU KNOW, FIVE YEARS AGO, BUT THIS HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED FOR SO LONG, AND I DON'T KNOW IF BUILDING ON TOP OF SOMETHING. HOW THAT WOULD YOU KNOW? UM THE CODE. THIS IS SUCH A UNIQUE CIRCUMSTANCE. I FEEL LIKE I AGREE. AND THEN YOU MENTIONED LETTERS OF SUPPORT, WHICH IS ALWAYS IMPORTANT, UH, FROM THE NEIGHBORS, DO WE HAVE, UH, THE NEIGHBORS ON BROMPTON COURT? ALSO ASIDE FROM JUST THE RESERVE . THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN COUNCIL'S PAPER AND ELECTRONIC PACKETS. YES. OK? WHAT FOR THAT AGE. THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT BACKED UP TO YOU ON. YEAH OK, YEAH. AND ALL OF A SUDDEN, UH UH, ACTUALLY. MR PERRY, SO THEY CAN'T HEAR YOU ON THE RECORD AND I CAN'T HEAR YOU ON THE RECORDING. IF YOU'LL GO AHEAD AND STEP UP AND INTRODUCE YOURSELF EITHER TALK LATER ON, YOU'RE WELCOME. YOU'RE WELCOME TO RESPOND. ABSOLUTELY INTRODUCE YOURSELF. GIVE YOUR ADDRESS AND THEN GO AHEAD. THERE WE GO. YES, WE HAD, UH, WE MET ALL OF OUR NEIGHBORS, WHICH WAS GOOD. SO WE , UH, DISCUSSED THIS PROJECT WITH ALL OF THEM? ARE THE PEOPLE IN THE COUNTRY CLUB THE STATES AS WELL. THERE'S FOUR OF THEM.

SEE THE LOT SORT OF LOG THERE, SO THERE'S A LOT OF THEM. WE TALKED TO ALL OF THEM AND THEN ANYBODY THAT COULD SEE THE PORCH. ON A COLD WINTER DAY. WE HAVE THEIR SIGN OFF, SO WE HAVE A TOTAL OF 13 NEIGHBORS SIGNED OFF SEVEN THAT COULD POSSIBLY SEE THE. YEAH. SOUNDS LIKE YOU'VE DONE ALL THE RIGHT THINGS. YEAH. SO OBVIOUSLY GETTING THE HOMERS ASSOCIATION SUPPORT SUPER IMPORTANT NEIGHBOR SUPPORT. SUPER IMPORTANT. THE OTHER THING. THAT CITY COUNCIL.

UH, CERTAINLY PAYS A LOT OF ATTENTION TO AND THAT BECAUSE OF OUR LONG STANDING TRADITION OF DOING SO, YOU GET THE ENJOYMENT OF IS MAKING SURE THOSE PRESERVATION ZONES ARE IN FACT PRESERVED. SO YOU HAVE A VERY MATURE, BEAUTIFUL TREE STAND BEHIND YOUR HOUSE, WHICH CERTAINLY ADDS TO, YOU KNOW, SORT OF A NICE, QUIET, BUCOLIC SETTING. THOSE YOU KNOW, ENCROACHMENTS IN THEIR PRE PRESERVATION ZONES ARE SOMETHING THAT WE TAKE SERIOUSLY, SO FOR US TO CONSIDER PROVIDING A VARIANCE TO BOTH OF THESE, IT'S NOT JUST A VARIANCE FROM BUILDING SETBACKS, BUT IT'S A VARIANTS INTO A PRESERVATION ZONE. SO AS WHEN EVERYONE IN THE PUBLIC TO KNOW THAT THIS IS VERY UNCOMMON FOR US TO CONSIDER, LET ALONE GRANTS. UH, ANY SORT OF VARIANCES THAT IMPACT PRESERVATION ZONES. THE DEVELOPER JOE CELLO. THANK YOU, SIR. WELL, MISS BRE. UH A NO, HE SAID, UH, THE PATIO. WAS BUILT AS A HOUSE WAS BUILT. THE FOOTPRINT WAS NEVER CHANGED AND BEFORE THE OCCUPANCY OCCUPANCY WAS RECEIVED 27 YEARS AGO. YEAH, SITTING THERE FOR 27 YEARS. IT WAS AND THIS WAS HE STARTED THE RESERVE IN 93. THIS WAS THE THIRD HOUSE BUILT. SO I THINK MAYBE SOME OF THE RULES OF JUST A CONSERVATION AREA, ET CETERA.

EVERYTHING WAS IN TOTALLY SET THE TIME. SO THE PERSON WHO BUILT THE HOUSE OBVIOUSLY DID SOMETHING DIFFERENT, BUT THEY SIGNED OFF IT AT THE TIME, BUT I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT THING THAT JOKE, SO THERE'S NOT A VARIANCE, BUT OF COURSE. THE LAW SAYS. WHEN YOU DO SOMETHING NOW YOU GOTTA LOOK AT IT. SO WE UNDERSTAND. APPRECIATE THAT, UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UH, FROM THE HOMEOWNER. UM I DON'T KNOW. I GUESS MORE FROM STAFF. I MEAN, I STILL HAVE I I'M ON THE SAME PAGE. IT'S BEEN THERE FOREVER, YOU KNOW, BUT THE SECOND STEP IS, YOU KNOW, KIND OF ACKNOWLEDGING THAT THAT SHOULDN'T BE THERE TO START WITH, AND THEN EXACERBATING IT BY BUILDING, YOU KNOW, COVERING IT, AND I CAN TOTALLY SEE HOW THAT MAKES SENSE. AND WE COULD DO THAT. I JUST I DO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF HEARTBURN ABOUT PRECEDENT. I KNOW JOE ADDRESSED IT, AND YOU KNOW, IT'S ONE THING WE HAVE. I'M NOT EVEN AS CONCERNED IN THE YOU KNOW, RESERVE OF THE PRESIDENT BECAUSE WE HAVE SUPPORT THERE, BUT TIDEWATER HAS CONSERVATION AREAS AND WE'VE HAD, YOU KNOW PEOPLE BUILD INTO, UH, CONSERVATION ZONES IN TIDE WATER, AND NOW THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE GONNA YOU GO TO AND SAY HEY, YOU GREEN AT THIS, AND I KNOW THIS

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IS THERE BUT I SHOULD NUMBER ONE. I SHOULDN'T HAVE TO TEAR IT OUT AND TWO I COULD ACTUALLY EXPAND. UM, BECAUSE I MEAN, DRAINING THE SECOND. YOU KNOW PART OF THIS VARIANCE. WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING INTO BUILDING ZONE NOW, NOT JUST THE CONSERVATION AREA, BUT WE'RE YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW THAT FIRST. CAN WE GO BACK TO THAT FIRST PICTURE? ARE WE GOING 4 FT. IN THE DOTTED RED LINE IS THE BUILDING. SET BACK CORRECT BECAUSE IT WAS JUST PAVERS BEFORE BUT NOW IT'LL BE A BUILDING AND I YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD THING AND MR MARRIAGE WHAT'S THE DISTANCE BETWEEN THE BUILDING SET BACK AND THE PROPOSED. CONSTRUCTION. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE BETWEEN THE RED DASH AND THE BLUE LINE? I BELIEVE IT'S 3.5 TO 4 FT. SO.

BECAUSE AS I SAID, YOU KNOW, I THIS MAKES SENSE TO ME, II. I DON'T THINK THIS BOTHERS ANYBODY. MY MAIN CONCERN IS THIS SETS A PRECEDENT WHERE WE ALLOW FOLKS TO COME IN AND SAY, HEY, I, I CAN NOT ONLY YOU KNOW, I KNOW THIS IS WRONG, BUT I CAN I SHOULD BE ABLE TO MAKE IT EVEN BIGGER AND GO INTO BUILDING SETBACKS. WELL, I THINK YOU KNOW , EACH VARIANCE IS DETERMINED ON ITS OWN MERITS, SO I DON'T KNOW IF IT NECESSARILY BE PRESIDENT SETTING. I THINK IN THIS CASE, WE HAVE AN EXISTING CONDITION THAT, UH, YOU KNOW THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE CITY COUNCIL SHOULD TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION. I THINK ALSO JUST LIKE THE CHARACTER OF THE BUILDING AND THE EXTENSION INTO THE PRESERVATION ZONE SHOULD ALSO BE , UM, CONSIDERED AS FAR AS ITS APPROPRIATENESS GOES HERE. THIS IS A WELL DESIGNED BUILDING, UH, EXTENSION INTO THE CONSERVATION EASEMENT, SO IT'S NOT OUT OF CHARACTER. I THINK THE OTHER THING THAT'S UH, CITY COUNCIL HAS TO CONSIDER THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION DIDN'T IS ALL THOSE LETTERS OF SUPPORT, WHICH YOU KNOW, CAN BE VIEWED AS IMPACT TO NEIGHBORS. I THINK WHEN I WENT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, THERE WAS JUST TWO LETTERS OF SUPPORT, INCLUDING THE HO A SUBMITTED I BELIEVE WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS LIKE A DOZEN LETTERS AND, UM, THAT'S COMPLETELY, UH, SURROUNDING THE PROPERTY. UH, SO I THINK THOSE ARE ALL THINGS TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION FOR THE UNIQUE MERITS OF THE PROPERTY. AND I DO THINK WHENEVER WE'RE DOING THE PRECEDENT WE DO GET TO LOOK AT THE UNIQUE FACTS. AND I THINK THE FACT THAT THESE PEOPLE HAD THIS PA AND THEY WASN'T THEM.

THE OWNERS HAD A PATIO FROM THE DAY THAT THEY GOT OCCUPANCY, AND IT'S BEEN THERE FOR 25 YEARS.

WITHOUT IT. CREATING AN ISSUE IS A UNIQUE FACT AS WELL. AND I THINK THE FACT THAT THE HO A TO ME THAT WAS THE THAT WAS A BIG DEAL THAT THEY WERE OK WITH TAKING THIS THAT NEXT STEP TO ME WAS A BIG DEAL. AND AS MR MAYOR SAID ALL THOSE NEIGHBORS I AGREE . THERE'S ALWAYS THAT DANGER OF PRECEDENT, BUT I DO THINK WE CAN LOOK AT UNIQUE FACTS AND STEVE MADE ME FEEL BETTER NOW. BEN CAN YOU MAKE ME FEEL EVEN BETTER, SO I DIDN'T MAKE YOU FEEL ANY BETTER ONLY SPEAK EVERY TIME THESE COME YOU IT'S ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS. SO YOU'RE GONNA EVALUATE ALL THE VARIOUS FACTORS ALL THE UNIQUE CIRCUMSTANCES EVERY TIME THEY COME. SO I, I DON'T I'M NOT SURE YOU'RE NECESSARILY SETTING PRECEDENT BECAUSE THERE'S GONNA BE SO MANY VARIABLES THAT COME UP THAT YOU CAN CONSIDER IN MAKING YOUR DECISION UNDER UNDER THE FACTOR SO JUST TO CLARIFY. WE ALWAYS CONCERNED ABOUT MAKING THE EXCEPTIONS HAVE WE APPROVED CONSTRUCTION INTO CONSERVATION AREAS AND OTHER REQUESTS? I UNDERSTAND WHAT THE PATIO HAS BEEN THERE. I HAVE NO ISSUE WITH THAT. NOW WE WANT TO BUILD A STRUCTURE AND WE APPROVED OTHER RESIDENTS TO COME FORWARD FOR A VARIANCE TO BUILD A STRUCTURE INTO A CONSERVATION AREA. IS IT'S GONNA BE THE FIRST JUST WANNA UNDERSTAND THAT. WE DIDN'T DO ANY RESEARCH ON THAT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. I KNOW WE'VE APPROVED, UM I BELIEVE, LIKE DECKS AND PATIOS, AND I THINK MAYBE SOME STAND ALONE PERGOLA WHILE THEY'RE NOT, UH, TECHNICALLY, AN EXTENSION OF THE HOME I DO THINK THEY ARE CONSIDERED STRUCTURES AND YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS LIKE CODE GOES AND IMPROVEMENTS. THINK, TOO. IF I COULD ADD TO THAT, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WHAT YOU KNOW, FROM STAFF'S PERSPECTIVE. WE LET THE APPLICANT KNOW THAT THEY HAVE A CHOICE. RIGHT TO THIS IS THE CODE. AND THESE ARE THE THIS IS THE PATH YOU NEED TO FOLLOW. IF YOU WANT TO REQUEST A VARIANCE FOR THE CODE, AND YOU FEEL THAT YOU'VE MEANT THAT HARDSHIP WE'VE HAD JUST A WIDE ARRAY OF REQUESTS OVER THE YEARS WITH RESPECT TO PRESERVATION ZONES, CONSERVATION ZONES AND EASEMENTS AND IT REALLY A LOT OF TIMES DEPENDS ON IT IS A CASE BY CASE SITUATION. HOW THAT PRESERVATION ZONE OR CONSERVATION ZONE IS WRITTEN ON THE PLATTE. THE RESTRICTIONS ON IT, WHETHER IT'S POSTED AS A CONSERVATION ZONE OR OR PRESERVATION ZONE, WHICH WE ONLY STARTED TO DO IN RECENT YEARS, UM WE'VE HAD PROPERTY OWNERS THAT HAVE BEEN DENIED VARIANCES BECAUSE MAYBE THE NATURE OF THAT CONSERVATION AREA WAS CREATED BECAUSE IT MIGHT HAVE STORM DETENTION ON IT. AND SO ANY STRUCTURE THAT'S BUILT AND IT COULD IMPACT STORM WATER, RIGHT, SO THERE'S BEEN LOTS OF DIFFERENT REASONS WHY THESE HAVE BEEN EITHER APPROVED OR DENIED THROUGH THE YEARS AS THEY'VE GONE THROUGH THE PLANNING COMMISSION PROCESS, BUT THE RESIDENT PROCESS IS STILL ALWAYS BEEN THE SAME THAT IF THE YOU

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KNOW THE CODE SAYS ONE THING, AND IT'S UP TO EITHER IT'S USUALLY THE PLANNING COMMISSION WHERE THIS GOES, IT DOESN'T USUALLY GO BEYOND THAT. IT'S JUST THE SONY TEXT HAPPENS TO BE SO UNIQUE. SO, UM THINGS WE DO DEFINITELY LOOK AT IS. WHAT DOES THIS CONSERVATION EASEMENT MEAN? FROM A DRAINAGE STANDPOINT? ARE THERE OTHER UTILITIES LOCATED BACK THERE? WILL IT IMPEDE SOME SORT OF DRAINAGE? WILL IT? UM, IS IT SOMETHING THAT IS CONTINUING TO ENCROACH? ON THE ON THE AREA THAT WILL IMPACT THE REST OF THE CONSERVATION ZONE. UM AND THOSE QUESTIONS ARE USUALLY PART OF OUR DUE DILIGENCE IN MAKING EITHER A RECOMMENDATION OR HELP PLANNING COMMISSION HAS CHOSEN TO EVALUATE THEM. THANK YOU. GOOD CONVERSATION. DID IT MAKE YOU FEEL BETTER? CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE SLIDE WITH THE SORT OF THE ESTIMATE THAT ONE IF THE.

COVERED PATIO ONLY EXTENDED TO THE, UM SETBACK. THE CONSTRUCTION SETBACK. THE RED LINE WOULD THEY NEED A VARIANCE? NO, THEY WERE NOT. SO THEY THEY DID. UH, I KNOW THAT THE PROPERTY OWNERS ARE HERE AND THE ARCHITECTS HERE AND I KNOW THEY HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT. UM I GUESS, UM SORT OF THE PROS AND CONS OF DOING THAT. FROM A DESIGN AND FUNCTIONALITY STANDPOINT, TOO OF THE OF THE, UH, SCREEN IN PORCH. AND THEN JUST GO BACK TO THE SIDE ELEVATION AGAIN. DON'T MIND. AND WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT THAT IT'S HOW MANY FEET INTO THE BUILDING.

SO THE ROOF PITCH WOULD BE RADICALLY INCREASED. YOU'D LOSE PROBABLY A WHOLE SET OF WINDOWS.

I ACTUALLY LOOK KIND OF WEIRD WITH THE BIRTH PITCH LIKE THAT. OK? ALL RIGHT. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? UH, FOR STAFF. DO WE NEED TO DO THESE VARIANCES? UH, MOTION FOR VARIANCE A OR A OK? BUT YES, WE HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING. SO DO THE PUBLIC HEARING FIRST AND THEN DO TWO SEPARATE MOTIONS IN EACH VARIANT . YEAH, I WOULD DO TWO SEPARATE VARIANCES FOR THE PATIO FIRST, AND THEN THE SECOND CONSTRUCTION PROJECT. CAN WE MAKE SURE THAT THE LETTER THAT I SHARED WITH ALL OF YOU THAT WAS SENT TO ME BY THE PERRY AS PART OF LIKE THE RECORD FOR THIS? YEAH, IT CAN BE ATTACHED TO THE MINUTES. UH, YOU CAN YOU ATTACH TO THE LEGISLATION THE COUNCIL FIRST.

OKAY? ALL RIGHT, THEN I'LL OPEN THE PELVIC HEARING WITH ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC LIKE TO SPEAK REGARDING RESOLUTION. R 04 2024. HEARING NO ADDITIONAL PUBLIC COMMENT. WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. AND UH, WE'LL START WITH VANCE. A UM, I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE VARIOUS A OR THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A VANCE OF THE SUBDIVISION PLANT TO ALLOW AN OPEN PAVER PATIO TO ENCROACH ON A P, A CONSERVATION AREA BY 9 FT, NOTING THAT THE, UM P PAPER WAS EX, AN EXISTING CONDITION. SECOND. AND TO MAYOR SPALDING COUNCIL MEMBER WELL, YES. COUNCIL MEMBER BRIS YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER DEREK YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. F? YES COUNCIL MEMBER? YES. SIX YES. VOTES TO APPROVE VARIANCE A ON THE PAPER PATIO. ALL RIGHT, AND THAT TAKES US TO VARIANCE B AND I WOULD MOVE THAT WE ADOPT THE RESOLUTION APPROVING THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST FOR A VARIANCE OF THE RESERVE AND NEW OPENING PUD SECTION, 26.0401 AND THE SUBDIVISION PLAT TO ALLOW A SCREENED IN PORCH HOME EDITION TO ENCROACH INTO THE MINIMUM YEAR YEAR. EXCUSE ME QUEER YARD SETBACK AND A PLATTED CONSERVATION AREA BY 4 FT. SECOND. THERE'S SOLVING THAT MEMBER WELL, YES. COUNCIL MEMBER K YES. COUNCIL MEMBER, YES. COUNCIL MEMBER COUNCIL MEMBERS? YES YES. TO APPROVE VARIANCE B OF THE CLASS, AND, UH, DIRECTOR ALBERT I. IS IT OVERKILL TO HAVE THEM ALSO ADOPTED OR RESOLUTION ITSELF? BECAUSE I'VE GOT TWO MOTIONS ADOPTING THE VARIANCES, BUT I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ADOPTED THE ENTIRE ORDINANCE. THE RESOLUTION. IT'S. PROBABLY OVERKILL. BUT IF YOU'RE COMFORTABLE, TOO, I MEAN THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH ADOPTING THE RESOLUTION TO MAKE IT CLEAN ON THE REST. THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM. WE'VE ADAPTED BOTH THE VARIANTS SO I WOULD MOVE FOR THE ADOPTION OF RESOLUTION. RO 4 2024. OK? ALL. AND THAT WAS COUNCIL MEMBER CHRIS THERE'S B YES. COUNCIL MEMBER CASE. YES, COUNCIL MEMBER COUNCIL MEMBER COUNCIL MEMBER

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FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBER. WELL, YES . SUGGEST STOOD UP FOR IT ARE 04 2024. ALL RIGHT. WELL THANK YOU, MR AND MRS PERRY, AND, UH, I HOPE YOU ENJOYED GOING THROUGH THIS, UH, PROCESS OF LEARNING ABOUT THE CIVIC WORKINGS OF YOUR COMMUNITY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE WITH THE PROCESS OF YEAH, THAT'S GOOD. THAT'S GOOD, YOU KNOW, BENEFIT. YEAH. YOU YOU'LL NEED TO HAVE A PARTY.

THAT PORCH IS DONE FOR ALL YOUR NEIGHBORS TO COME OVER. THERE YOU GO. PERFECT NOW YOU'RE THE EXPERT. THEY'LL COME TO YOU LET LET US KNOW WHEN IT'S THE FIRST PICNIC WILL BE VIRAL BE COZY.

AND AGAIN APPRECIATING THAT YOU PROBABLY HERE JUST TO HEAR THAT RESOLUTION. YOU'RE CERTAINLY WELCOME TO GO AT YOUR LEISURE. WE'LL MOVE ON WITH THE REST OF THE AGENDA, WHICH TAKES US TO

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COUNCIL SUBCOMITTEE REPORTS AND DISCUSSION OF SUB-COMMITTEE CREATION. UM. I HAD SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS WITH SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS ABOUT THE CREATION OF SUBCOMMITTEES. UM AGAIN, I MY WHOLE PREFERENCE WAS TO TRY TO MOVE AWAY FROM THE STANDING COMMITTEES AND PUT IN SUBCOMMITTEES THAT WE ACTUALLY UTILIZE AND WANT TO REPORT BACK ON. I THINK TONIGHT'S CONVERSATION WAS GONNA BE AROUND. WHAT SORT OF SUBCOMMITTEES DID WE WANT TO CREATE, AND THEN MAYBE SAVE IT FOR A FUTURE DATE WHEN EVERYONE'S PRESENT TO ASSIGN INDIVIDUALS UNLESS THERE'S WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE IN THE SHORT TERM. THAT'S MY THOUGHT, BUT I'M CERTAINLY OPEN TO SUGGESTIONS. SO THE SUBCOMMITTEES. I THINK THAT MAKES SENSE, UH, WOULD BE THE SORT OF THE COMMUNITY GRANTS. UH, SUBCOMITTEE. I THINK FOR A PERIOD OF TIME, WE WERE CALLING IT THE, UH, BED TAX. COMMITTEE BUT I DON'T THINK ANYONE IN COUNCIL ENVISIONED THAT THAT COMMITTEE WOULD BE AUTHORIZE HER EXPECTED TO SPEND ALL THE BED TAX. THAT'S THAT WAS NEVER THE PLAN. UH SO WE'RE AGAIN GOING BACK TO THE COMMUNITY GRANT. SO I WOULD I WOULD SUGGEST WE START THAT, UH, THE SECOND. THAT MAKES SENSE. IF I MAY. I'M SORRY. I THINK WE CHANGED THE NAME SIMPLY BECAUSE THAT WAS WHERE THE FUNDING COMES FROM. IT WAS NEVER INTENDED TO BE USING ALL OF THE, UH, HOTEL MOTEL BED TAX, BUT THAT I THINK I FELT AND I THINK, I. I THINK WHEN WE DISCUSSED IT, WE FELT THAT IT SENT A MESSAGE TO THE COMMUNITY THAT THAT'S THE SOURCE OF THOSE GRANTS AND THAT, IN FACT, IT TIES BACK TO THAT SORT OF PURPOSE OF BRINGING PEOPLE INTO THE COMMUNITY THAT WE HAD ALWAYS TALKED ABOUT COMING FROM HOTEL MOTEL, WHICH IS WHY WE HAD MADE THAT NAME. A PART OF THAT, YEAH, THAT MAKES SENSE. IT SORT OF TOOK US AWAY FROM. WE'RE NOT DOING THINGS LIKE FOOD PANTRY OUT OF THIS. WE'RE DOING THINGS THAT ARE, YOU KNOW. TO BRING PEOPLE INTO THE COMMUNITY TO UTILIZE BUSINESS AND THAT SORT OF THING, BUT THAT WAS THE SOURCE. WE NEVER CAME CLOSE TO, UH, USING ALL OF THE FUNDS, AND I DON'T THINK ANYBODY INSINUATED THAT WE WOULD. SO I PERSONALLY WOULD LIKE TO MY PREFERENCE IS TO KEEP IT IN THE NAME AS PART OF THAT. I WONDER IF THE NAMES OF CONNOTES THE AUTHORITY OVER ALL OF THE BED TECH BED MOTEL. UM GRAND MONEY. YOU KNOW IF YOU CALL IT AS MDT OR SO I KNOW NOT HISTORICALLY, BUT WE CAN. WE CAN WORKSHOP A NAME. YEAH, WE CAN. WE CAN I MEAN AGAIN, WE CAN WAIT. I MEAN, WE BROUGHT THIS A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO TO COUNCIL SPECIFICALLY WITH THE NAME CHANGE WITH A PURPOSE FOR DOING IT THIS FIRST TIME. I'VE HEARD THAT THERE WAS INTEREST IN CHANGING THAT WE CAN CERTAINLY GO BACK AND REVISIT IT. BUT WELL, ARE THERE OTHER GRANTS BEYOND THE BED TAX? I MEAN, IF SO, THEY'D ALL BE UNDER THIS SUBCOMITTEE AND NOT JUST LOOKING AT ONE, SO I THINK IT GIVES IT A BROADER REACH. WHICH I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH. IT. YOU'RE SAYING THAT THIS WOULD NOW INCLUDE GRANTS THAT YOU DON'T NECESSARILY COME OUT OF BED TAX, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS HAS BEEN HISTORICALLY, SO THAT'S THE DISCUSSION. WELL, WOULDN'T THE TAX BE WITHIN IT? THOSE GRANTS. SO WE HAVE SOME OTHER GRANT THAT BRINGS FUNDS IN IT WOULD BE UNDER THIS SUBCOMITTEE. ARE YOU GONNA HAVE A BED TAX SUBCOMITTEE AND THEN ANOTHER GRANT SUBCOMITTEE AND ANOTHER GRANT SUBCOMITTEE, BUT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO AVOID. WHAT I'M SAYING. IS THAT THE CURRENT SUBCOMITTEE AND IT WAS SUBCOMITTEE. WHATEVER YOU WANNA CALL IT, THE CURRENT PROGRAM AND WHATEVER IT IS GOING TO BE NOW, AS IT HAS FUNCTIONED AS LONG AS LONG BEFORE I WAS A PART OF IT. AND AS LONG AS I'VE BEEN A PART OF IT HAS BEEN TO SOURCE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF BED TAX FUNDS FOR CERTAIN TYPES OF COMMUNITY GRANTS. IT'S NOT ALL OF OUR COMMUNITY GRANTS. IT'S NOT COMING FROM ANY OTHER. SOURCING AND IT NEVER USED EVEN A I DON'T THINK EVEN HALF FRANKLY OF THE FED TAX MONEY THAT'S NEVER BEEN WHAT IT'S BEEN IN THE PAST, SO

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THAT'S THE HISTORY OF IT IF WE WANT TO MAKE CHANGES TO ITS PURPOSE, OR ITS SOURCING OR PUT LIMITS ON, YOU KNOW HOW MUCH OF IT'S USED, THAT'S ALL SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO DISCUSS. BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS CURRENT COMMITTEE HAS BEEN. I THINK QUESTIONS IS. HOW DO WE WANT TO NAME IT? YEAH. UH, YEAH. WHAT IF IT AGAIN WE HAD HAD THAT BEEN A LOT OF WORK INTO IT TO HOW IT'S ORGANIZED AND UH, IT'S. AND WE'VE MADE A LOT OF CHANGES, INCLUDING THAT NAME, AND ALL OF THAT WAS BROUGHT BEFORE COUNCIL AND DISCUSSED EACH TIME WE'VE MADE THE CHANGES WE WENT TO A MUCH MORE OBJECTIVE STANDARD. WE CHANGED THE APPLICATION PROCESS SO THAT IT WAS STANDARDIZED.

WE'VE CHANGED THE TIMING OF IT. WE'VE EXPLAINED TO CERTAIN COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS THAT THIS IS A BED TAX, AND THEREFORE THAT'S NOT THE PLACE FOR THEM TO COME TO APPLY FOR GRANTS.

THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF COMMUNICATION OUT TO THE COMMUNITY. I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD. HAPHAZARDLY. MAKE A CHANGE. WE HAVE CHANGES, THEN WE SHOULD DISCUSS THIS FULL NAME. I THINK WE CALLED IT. THE HOTEL MOTEL BED TAX. GRANTS RIGHT GRANTS. WE DID PUT GRANTS ON THERE. YES YES. WHAT ABOUT I MEAN HOTEL MOTEL. MONEY GOES FOR THE OKTOBERFEST. RIGHT IT GOES FOR THE DOESN'T IT GO FOR THE FOURTH OF JULY? NONE OF THAT GOES THROUGH THE GRANT COMMITTEE. HOTEL MOTEL BED TAX COMMUNITY GRANTS COMMITTEE. ROLLS OFF THE TONGUE. YEAH THE HOTEL MOTEL COMMUNITY GRANTS THAT SEEMS LIKE IT COMBINES THAT. I CAN'T. I DON'T REMEMBER WHERE WHAT THE EXACT FORMAL. COMMUNITY GRANT COMMITTEE WAS NOT IN THERE, BUT CERTAINLY IT'S HEAVY ON THE TONGUE, BUT I MEAN, WE CAN. MY POINT IS, I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD JUST BE COMMUNITY GRANTS, I GUESS IS MY POINT. UNLESS WE'RE CHANGING THE PURPOSE. WELL AND THE SOURCES. I THINK COMMUNITY GRANTS IS THIS. I DON'T KNOW WHY THE PURPOSE HAS TO CHANGE. THAT'S WHAT WE WERE DOING TO HOTEL ME MOTEL. THE ONLY THING IT JUST DOESN'T CLARIFY. THE FUNDS THAT WELL AGAIN. WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION IN FRONT OF FULL COUNCIL A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO WHEN WE MADE THESE CHANGES, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WANTED TO BE VERY CLEAR ABOUT WAS THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF ORGANIZATIONS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY THAT COME TO US FOR GRANTS. BUT THIS MONEY BECAUSE IT WAS FROM HOTEL AND MOTEL BED TAX WAS SPECIFICALLY SUPPOSED TO BE USED IN THE APPLICATIONS SAY THAT VERY CLEARLY THIS IS FOR THINGS THAT BRING PEOPLE INTO THE COMMUNITY THAT BRING BUSINESS INTO THE COMMUNITY THAT ARE SOCIAL PROGRAMMING. WE HAVE ALL THESE DIFFERENT, VERY SPECIFIC TAG LINES THAT ARE STATED IN THE IN THE APPLICATION PROCESS, AND WE'VE ALWAYS JUSTIFIED THAT BY SAYING THAT'S BECAUSE THAT WAS THE PURPOSE AND THE INTENT OF HOTEL MOTEL BED TAX, AND I DON'T THINK ANY OF THAT HAS TO CHANGE EVEN IF WE CHANGE IT TO COMMUNITY GROUNDS.

I MEAN, I READ HOTEL MOTEL BED TAX GRANTS, AND THAT DOESN'T CONVEY THAT IT HAS TO BE SOMETHING THAT BRINGS PEOPLE INTO THE CITY TO APPLY FOR IT. THE STANDARD YOU GET THAT WHEN YOU GET THE APPLICATION, SO IF IT'S A COMMUNITY GRANTS, AND I READ THE APPLICATION WITH I WOULD GET THE. CONTACTS THAT I CAN'T APPLY UNLESS IT'S GONNA BRING PEOPLE INTO THE CITY. BUT WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT HAVING OTHER COMMUNITY GRANTS THAT DON'T COME OUT OF THIS FUND. SO THAT'S SOMETHING TO DISCUSS. IT'S FINE. YOU WANT TO CHANGE THE NAME OF IT, CHANGE THE NAME OF IT, BUT DON'T CHANGE THE PURPOSE OF IT AND THE SOURCING OF IT, AND, UH UH, THE AUTHORITY OF IT WITHOUT THAT BEING MUCH BIGGER DISCUSSION. JAMES, ARE THERE. WELL, WE HAVEN'T I DON'T THINK WE'RE PLANNING TO VOTE TONIGHT ON WHO WOULD STAFF THIS COMMITTEE BECAUSE I MEAN THE GRANT PROCESS DOESN'T START FOR ANOTHER. 6 TO 8 WEEKS. THE CURRENT PLAN IS TO PUT THEM OUT IN MAY. AND FROM THE FORMER GROUP THAT THEY WANTED TO DISCUSS SOME THINGS BEFORE THEY WENT OUT. I DO NEED SOMEONE, UH, SOME A COUNCIL MEMBER OR A COMMITTEE TO APPROVE THE APPLICATIONS BEFORE THEY GO OUT. SOMEONE'S GOT TO SIT THERE. OK, BEFORE I SEND THEM. I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THAT WE WERE CHANGING THE COMMITTEE OF MEMBERS. I DIDN'T EITHER I GET TO VOTE ON WHO GETS TO SIT ON A COMMITTEE. I THINK THAT'S THAT'S HOW THIS PROCESS WORKS. YEAH. DID WE USED TO DO THAT? UH, WE HAVE, BUT NOW THAT WE'RE MAKING IT, IT'S NO LONGER OUT. OH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE CHANGING IT TO A SUBCOMITTEE. WE'RE GONNA THEN WE'LL DO THAT I'LL DO IT. I GO TO A NEW PROCESS BECAUSE WE'RE CHANGING HOW IT'S OK. I MEAN, I KNOW, UH, COUNCIL PRESIDENT SHALL HAD IT.

UM, SOME STRONG FEELINGS ABOUT THIS COMMITTEE AND, YOU KNOW, HAD ASKED THAT WE WAIT UNTIL HE

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CAN GET BACK IN TOWN TO SHARE HIS THOUGHTS AT A COUNCIL MEETING BEFORE WE MADE ANY ASSIGNMENTS. SO AGAIN, I JUST IDENTIFYING COMMITTEES THAT WE'D WANT TO, UH, ESTABLISH. THIS IS A GOOD THING. I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WAITING UNTIL HE RETURNS. THE OF A BROADER CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT. YEAH, I AGREE. THIS IS A GREAT WE NEED TO. I THINK IT WOULD BE PERFECT AS A SUBCOMITTEE AND DOES GREAT WORK WE CAN WE CAN DETERMINE. MAYBE THE FOLKS THAT ARE ASSIGNED TO THE COMMITTEE CAN COME UP WITH A NAME AND BRING THAT FORTH TO COUNSEL. EVEN THERE, THAT IT. UM I MEAN, I, I WILL AGAIN TIP MY HAT TO. UM I THINK I WAS ON THIS COMMITTEE FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS, TOO, AND TRANSITIONED OFF JUST AS THE SORT OF DISCIPLINE WAS COMING ONLINE WITH HOW THAT GROUP MET. WHAT INFORMATION THEY REVIEWED. AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, THE REPORT BACK THAT CAME TO COUNCIL, SO I THINK THAT'S REALLY SORT OF THE MODEL. UM THAT WE WANNA FOLLOW MOVING FORWARD WITH THE SUBCOMMITTEES, UM, THAT THERE IS AN EXPECTATION THAT THERE'S A REPORT BACK TO COUNCIL, WHICH THAT COMMITTEE ALWAYS DID A REALLY GOOD JOB EVERY YEAR. UM, THE SECOND ONE OBVIOUSLY IS, UH, THE. I'M AFRAID TO PUT A NAME ON IT. THE CITY SCHOOL, UH, WORK GROUP, UH, THAT WE HAD ESTABLISHED THAT WERE MEETING UH , AS REGULARLY AS POSSIBLE TO TALK ABOUT A NUMBER OF THINGS, UH, THAT IMPACT THE SCHOOL AND THE CITY. UH TO SORT OF GET IN A ROOM, UH, WITH A GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS LESS THAN A QUORUM FOR EACH OF THE PUBLIC BODIES AND JUST TO KEEP THOSE VERY ROBUST AND DYNAMIC CONVERSATIONS GOING I THINK IT WAS THAT COMMITTEE THAT REALLY SPURRED ON THE SCHOOL'S INTEREST IN IN DEVELOPING THIS UH, PLAN THAT WITH OUR CONSULTANT THAT TALKED ABOUT RESIDENTIAL GROWTH. UH, IN OUR YOU KNOW THE POTENTIAL OF RESIDENTIAL GROWTH IN OUR COMMUNITY AND IMPACT ON THE SCHOOLS. THAT WAS REALLY AN INITIATIVE FROM THIS SUBCOMITTEE . I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD DEFINITELY KEEP MOVING FORWARD. UM THERE'S A LOT OF IMPORTANT THINGS THAT WE NEED TO KEEP KEEP THE DIALOGUE AND THE CHANNELS OF COMMUNICATION OPEN AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. I THINK I'M GONNA BE EXTREMELY UNPOPULAR TONIGHT, BUT I'M A LITTLE THROWN BY THAT BEING A SUBCOMITTEE AND I DO NEED TO ASK A QUESTION. I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THE SCHOOL WOULD BE OK WITH THIS BEING A SUB-COMMITTEE WE, OUR SUBCOMMITTEES. WELL II, I MAYBE THE RULES ARE DIFFERENT. I DON'T KNOW. SUBCOMITTEE RULES, BUT A AS IN IN THE PAST THE PREDECESSOR TO THE COMMUNITY GRANTS SCHOOL BED WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT. WE WERE REQUIRED TO HAVE ALL OF OUR MEETINGS, BE PUBLIC MEETINGS STREAMING TO THE PUBLIC. UM IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE SCHOOL WANTS THIS TO BE A WORKING COMMITTEE. THAT IS NOT A MEETING. WELL, I WANT TO BE VERY CAREFUL THAT WE DON'T PUT OURSELVES INTO THE SHORT IN THE SHORT TERM. I MEAN, BY CREATING A SUBCOMITTEE. THAT'S LESS THAN A QUARTER OF COUNCIL. IS THAT A PUBLIC BODY THAT REQUIRES THOSE AGENDAS, MEETINGS AND MINUTES APPROVED? I THINK, TO THE EXTENT THAT COUNCIL CREATES A SUBCOMITTEE. THAT'S NOT AN ISSUE. BUT IF IT'S SOMETHING MORE THAN THAT, THEN THAT'S WHEN THE ISSUE COMES UP. YOU MIGHT HAVE TO WORK THROUGH AS TO WHAT THE PURPOSE AND INTENT IS. SO ARE YOU SAYING THAT THE GRANTS THING IF IT'S JUST A SUB-COMMITTEE APPOINTED BY COUNSEL AND WE NEED TO GO OVER APPLICATIONS, THOUGH, DON'T THOSE NO LONGER HAVE TO BE A PUBLIC? HEARING. YOU DON'T HAVE A QUORUM OF THE PUBLIC BODY. UM AND YOU'RE NOT TAKING ANY TYPE OF ME. YOU DON'T TAKE OFFICIAL ACTION OUT OF IT. SO YOU'RE GOOD ON THAT I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU, MARLENE. THAT UH, OUR CERTAIN OUR PURPOSE. UM I MEAN, WE COULD WE COULD ALWAYS HAVE A JOINT SCHOOL BOARD CITY COUNCIL MEETING THAT WE COULD NOTICE THAT WE COULD CONDUCT THE MEETING AND BE IT'D BE FUN TO DO, PERHAPS SOMEDAY, AND WE CAN HAVE A VERY OPEN DIALOGUE ABOUT CERTAIN THINGS TOGETHER IN THE AT THE SAME TIME DURING A PUBLIC MEETING, BUT I THINK, UH, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANNA BE VERY CAREFUL THAT IT'S NOT THAT BOTH THAT YOU AND I PARTICIPATED IN THIS, YOU KNOW. GROUP MEETING WITH THE SCHOOLS. UM AGAIN, IT'S JUST TO KEEP DIALOGUE. IT'S NOT A DECISIONAL BODY. WE'RE NOT DECIDING ANYTHING. WE'RE JUST HAVING CONVERSATIONS EXCHANGING INFORMATION AND THEN AGAIN, IF IT'S SUB-COMMITTEE, THE EXPECTATION FROM ME IS THAT THAT SUBCOMITTEE SHOULD REPORT BACK WITH REGULARLY DURING THE PUBLIC MEETING TO THE FULL COUNCIL ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING. PROJECT DIRECTOR ALBERT CAN I CONFIRM FURTHER? MY UNDERSTANDING HAS BEEN THAT IF YOU HAVE A SUBCOMITTEE APPOINTED AND YOU HAVE A QUORUM OF THAT, SUBCOMITTEE, YOU HAVE AN OPEN MEETING PUBLIC BODY. SO I. I GUESS I'D WANNA DOUBLE CHECK AND I'D PROBABLY NEED TO HAVE THE RULES AS TO WHAT THIS SUBCOMITTEE IS, BUT, I MEAN, GENERALLY SPEAKING, IF YOU I GUESS IT DEPENDS IF YOU IF YOU'RE GOING TO A POINT LESS THAN A QUORUM OF COUNCIL TO MEET AND TALK ABOUT ISSUES TO REPORT BACK. I THINK THAT'S I THINK THAT'S EXEMPT FROM IT AT THAT POINT, BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT UNDERTAKING PUBLIC BUSINESS. AT THAT POINT, YOU'RE JUST DISCUSSING AND SHARING IDEAS. SO SO WE'LL NEED TO CONFIRM THAT AND SO WE WAIT HOW THEY'RE SET

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UP AND WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS SO MESSY. WE'RE LIKE A SAUSAGE HERE . CREAM. YEAH. SO ONCE YOU HAVE A PEN AND THE SAME WHOLE TRUTH FOR THE SCHOOL BOARD, I WOULD ASSUME OR THE SCHOOLS. THAT'S WHY IT'S ALWAYS FUN TO MEET AT THE TOWNSHIP BECAUSE YOU CAN ONLY HAVE ONE TRUST. UM BUT WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE SET THESE UP THAT WE'RE COMPLYING WITH WHAT OUR OBLIGATIONS ARE THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT. I REMEMBER. IN THE PAST, WE DID A PUBLIC MEETING WHERE WE WERE.

WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD. ONE WAS THAT JOB? I HAD TO BE. 2008 ISH. YEAH. WE HAD SEVERAL MEETINGS.

OR THE SCHOOL BOARD AND THE COUNCIL WERE TOGETHER. THIS IS DEFINITELY NOT THAT THIS IS MORE LIKE JUST A COUPLE OF REPRESENTATIVES SITTING DOWN TOGETHER TO HA AS LIAISONS TO HAVE DISCUSSIONS THAT WITHOUT HAVING TO MAKE IT A FULL PUBLIC MEETING AT THE POINT OF IT, SO I BRING UP ISSUES THAT CAN BE BROUGHT FORTH TO BOTH COUNCIL AND THE SCHOOL BOARD. EXACTLY.

YEAH, I AGREE WITH THAT. SO I DO AND AGAIN, I MEAN, THROW THIS OUT THERE, AND WE NEED A SIMILAR GROUP TO HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH THE TOWNSHIP. I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE I THINK NUMBER OF THINGS COMING DOWN, YOU KNOW, FROM A CONVERSATION DECISION STANDPOINT , WITH OUR PARTNERS IN THE TOWNSHIP THAT WE NEED TO ENHANCE THAT RELATIONSHIP THAT THAT WOULD BE A REALLY GOOD IDEA.

THAT'S THE CONVERSATION I NEED TO HAVE WITH YOU GUYS. AND I DON'T KNOW THAT WE YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE COMBINE THOSE TWO AT SOME POINT BECAUSE THE SCHOOL IS A TOWNSHIP CITY. ALL OF US HAVE TO GET TOGETHER AND TALK ABOUT ISSUES THAT IMPACT ALL OF US. WHICH MAKES SENSE. UM, BUT AGAIN, THESE ARE JUST DISCUSSION POINTS. THEY'RE NOT DECISIONAL. UH, IS THERE ANY OTHER SUBCOMMITTEES? WE'D LIKE TO CONSIDER AGAIN. WE DON'T NEED TO MAKE APPOINTMENTS TODAY, THEN THROWN OUT OF IDEAS. I MEAN, WE HAD TALKED ABOUT THE FINANCE, UH, IN THE INVESTMENT. WE LOSE ALL THAT WE HAVE A LIAISON THAT OK? AND WE HAVE A LIAISON FOR ME. UH OH. HOW ABOUT THE ADMINISTRATION? ADMINISTRATIVE UH, FUNCTION SHOULD THAT BE A SUBCOMITTEE SO YOU CAN HAVE I SAID IT SOME SCORING MEMBERS OF COUNCIL I. I THINK I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. I THINK SO, TOO. I FEEL LIKE WE JUST DUMP THAT THING ON. WHOEVER'S LIKE KCKC IS DOING A GOOD JOB. SO THE ADMINISTRATIVE STUFF SO THAT WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR AGAIN. THIS THE CITY MANAGER CONTRACT, UM. FOR COMMISSIONS AND THE C. YEAH, OK. AND I WAS AS A SUBCOMITTEE THAN IT HAS IN THE PAST. AND I GUESS I WANNA F ONE THING TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THE CLERK MASON'S POINT, IF IT IF WE'RE SETTING UP A SUBCOMITTEE, WE MAY HAVE OPEN MEETING. REQUIREMENTS THAT WE HAVE TO HIT IF WE'RE DOING SOME KIND OF MEETING WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD OR SOMETHING ELSE AND REPRESENTS THAT MAY BE SOMETHING DIFFERENT. SO AS WE GO THROUGH UPSETTING THESE SUBCOMMITTEES, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE LET'S UH WE'LL HAVE TO DIG INTO THIS COMMITS ANYTHING TONIGHT SOME HOMEWORK FOR THE NEXT. THE NEXT DISCUSSION IS, YOU KNOW WHAT ARE WE? OBVIOUSLY WE'RE WE'RE GONNA FOLLOW. WE START THERE. SECONDLY WHAT ARE WE ALLOWED TO DO AS IT RELATES TO A GROUP LESS THAN FORUM. HAVING DISCUSSIONS ON TOPICS AND WHAT IS APPROPRIATE TO BE A SUBCOMITTEE? AND WHAT DOESN'T NEED TO BE? I THINK THAT'S THE REAL QUESTION, TOO. SO OK? ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER ANY OTHER SUGGESTIONS? UM, POSSIBLE SUPPLEMENTS. ALL RIGHT. WELL WE HAVE FOUR THERE TO CHEW ON. THINK ABOUT NO TAPPING HIS MIC. HE HAS AN IDEA. GO AHEAD. WAIT IN JOE. THE WAR JUST REALIZED HE DOESN'T HAVE HIS MIC ON ALL NIGHT. THAT'S A ALL RIGHT. WELL, THANK YOU. THANK YOU, EVERYONE. NO WONDER IF THERE WAS SUCH, UH, YOU KNOW, LET'S NOT TALK ABOUT

[13. REPORTS OF REPRESENTATIVES]

THIS TONIGHT. UH, FOR TWO COUNCILS, UM, REPORTS OF REPRESENTATIVES JOIN ANY UPDATE FROM OR THANK YOU. SO UH, PRIOR TO THE COMMISSION MEETING, UH, THE, UH, CEO OF THE COLUMBUS AIRPORT AUTHORITY, JOAN ARE DOI SPOKE ABOUT THE NEW TERMINAL. UH, THAT WILL BE APPROXIMATELY A $2 BILLION PROJECT. UH, 1.5 BILLION OF THAT IS GOING TO BE, UH, SUPPORTED THROUGH DEBT, UH, WHICH WILL BE BACKED BY THE AIRLINE. UH, CARRIERS THAT ARE USING THE AIRPORT. UH, THERE WILL BE NO NEW, UH, TAX DOLLARS REQUIRED TO FUND THAT, UM, FUND THAT PROJECT GROUNDBREAKING, UH, SCHEDULED TO OCCUR, UH IN 2025 CONSTRUCTION WILL OCCUR BETWEEN 2025 AND 28. WITH OPENING IN EARLY 2020. UH ROUGHLY 25% OF THE, UH OF THE CONSTRUCTION. WORK AND PROFESSIONAL WORK WILL BE DONE BY, UH MINORITY DISADVANTAGED BUSINESSES. 80% OF THE WORK WILL BE PERFORMED BY UNION LABOR. UH THE DESIGN IS GOING TO BE PASSENGER FOCUSED, UH, THEY THEY'LL BE A, UM UH,

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THERE WOULD BE MORE, CONCESSIONS AND RETAIL OFFERINGS IN THE CONCOURSES. UH GREATER, UH, LOANS, ACCESS A SINGLE CHECK IN POINT AND BETTER LINE OF SIGHT TO EACH OF THE GATES. UH APPROXIMATE THAT IT WILL ACCOMMODATE APPROXIMATELY APPROXIMATELY 13 MILLION PASSENGERS PER YEAR AND THAT WILL GIVE IT ABOUT A 51% CAPACITY INCREASE SO DEFINITELY SPACE FOR FUTURE GROWTH. UM. IT SHOULD HAVE APPROXIMATELY 36 GATES. UH, IT'S AN INCREASE FROM THE CURRENT NUMBER OF GATES, WHICH IS 29. BUT BECAUSE OF THE DESIGN, IT WILL ADD MUCH GREATER EFFICIENCY IN AND THE ABILITY TO MOVE THROUGHOUT THE SPACE. UM. INTERESTINGLY I THINK THEY SAID THAT THE NUMBER UH, THE TOP TWO DESTINATIONS, UH FROM UH, NOW THIS WOULD BE FOR, UH LIKE RECREATIONAL PASSENGER TYPE TRAVEL. UH OR ORLANDO AND NEW YORK AND, UM. I THINK THE LOCATION OF THE OF THE NEW TERMINAL WILL BE ON THE RENTAL CAR FACILITY IMMEDIATELY NEXT.

NEXT DOOR TO THE, UM. I'M SORRY. NO I CAN'T READ MY WRITING THERE ANYWAY. BUT I THINK IT WAS THE BLUE THE BLUE LOT. SO YEAH, BETWEEN THE CURRENT RENTAL CENTER AND YOU'LL SEE THE TOWER THE TRUMBLE WILL ACTUALLY BE JUST SOUTH OF THE OF THE EXISTING TOWER. REPURPOSE THE EXISTING PARKING LOT FOR STAFF VENDOR AND, UM, LONG TERM. UH, HOT OR EXCUSE ME, AIRPORT STORAGE AND THEN AS IMPORTANT AS THE 36 GATES, WHICH IS ABOUT WHAT COLUMBUS HAS NOW, BUT THEY'RE GONNA BE INCREASED FROM CAPACITY STANDPOINT SERVING LARGER JETS. THEY'LL ALSO BE ABLE TO USE THE FACILITY BEHIND THE EXISTING TERMINAL, WHICH HAS , YOU KNOW A VERY DEEP CONCRETE PAD TO ACTUALLY PARK JETS THERE OVERNIGHT, WHICH IS A BIG, UH, NEED FOR BUSINESS TRAVELERS.

THEY WANT TO GET THAT FIRST JET OUT IN THE MORNING. IF YOU HAVE TO FLY IN FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE TO GET HERE FOR THE, YOU KNOW, AN EIGHT O'CLOCK THERE'S LESS BUSINESS TRAVEL IN THE MORNING SO THAT'LL THAT'LL OPEN UP SOME ADDITIONAL BUSINESS TRAVEL. UM SOUNDS LIKE THE FOCUS IS ON, UM DOMESTIC FLIGHTS AND INCREASING DOMESTIC FLIGHTS. OBVIOUSLY YOUR HIGH ARE COLUMBUS WOULD LOVE TO GET AN INTERNATIONAL FLIGHT. UH, BUT IT'S EXCEEDINGLY EXPENSIVE. AND UH, FRANKLY, FRANKLY, WE CAN . WE CAN FLY. WE CAN FLY TO INDIANAPOLIS OR DRIVE TO INDIANAPOLIS IF YOU REALLY WANT TO FLY TO FLY TO EUROPE DIRECTLY. I THINK WE FIGHT INTERNATIONAL TO CANADA. THERE WE GO. CORRECT VERY LAST THAT MY RIGHT AND THEN, UH, DURING THE REGULAR MEETING, IT WAS A REMINDER ABOUT THE STATE OF THE REGION, WHICH THE THEME FOR THIS YEAR IS. CONNECTING COMMUNITIES BUILDING THE FUTURE OF HOUSING AND TRANSPORTATION. STILL IN OUR OUR THUNDER UH, ALSO, UH, THERE WAS A REMINDER ABOUT A $5.8 MILLION CLEAN OHIO GRANT. UH, THE PRELIMINARY APPLICATIONS ARE DUE ON JUNE 3RD. UH, WAS FINAL APPLICATIONS DO? UH THIS WILL BE AFTER THE SCREENER, UH, REVIEWS ON AUGUST 30TH. THEY MENTIONED THAT THERE WERE, UH UH THEY HAVE 87 MEMBERS. THEY HAD 100% RETENTION FOR THE YEAR. AND THEY'RE PLANNING A LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND SCHOOLS WORKING TOGETHER TO BUILD SUSTAINABLE COMMUNITIES MEETING WHICH WILL BE HELD ON FEBRUARY, 27TH AT NOON, IF ANYONE WAS INTERESTED, UM I THINK THAT'S ABOUT IT. ALL RIGHT. UM, THE JOINT PARTS DID HAVE A MEETING. UH LAST NIGHT, BUT, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER, SO LET US KNOW THERE WAS NOTHING TO REPORT AT THIS TIME. OBVIOUSLY, JOINT PERKS ARE FOCUSED. UH, A LOT OF THEIR TIME AND ENERGY RIGHT NOW ON THE REC CENTER COMING UP WITH THE FINAL DESIGN AND, UH, PROCEEDING. WITH CONSTRUCTION. SO THEY I KNOW THEY'RE PLANNING A, UH, AN ANNOUNCEMENT TO THE COMMITTEE FOR AN UPDATE, SO WE'LL LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING THAT. UH UPDATE FROM THE PLAIN LOCAL SCHOOLS. MR KISS. THERE WAS A MEETING ON FEBRUARY 12TH. UH, IT WAS A 16 MINUTE ONE. YES SO IT WAS APPRECIATED. UH THE HIGHLIGHTS, UH, THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS MOVING FORWARD AN RF PR FP FOR FACILITY PLANNING. UH SO THEY'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT, UH, THE FUTURE OF THE DISTRICT. UM THERE ARE THREE OPENINGS ON THEIR FINANCIAL COMMITTEE, AND I THOUGHT THIS WAS KINDA, UH, THAT RUNG A BELL. THEY HAVE 20 APPLICANTS. FOR THEIR THREE OPENINGS ON THEIR FINANCIAL COMMITTEE AND THE NEW ALL SAID THAT EVERYBODY IS VERY HIGHLY QUALIFIED. UH SO THE ENGAGEMENT IS GREAT. UH, ALSO SOME OTHER

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CITY THE DISTRICT IS CURRENTLY RUNNING $2 MILLION OVER ON REVENUE AND $2 MILLION UNDER ON EXPENDITURES. SO THINGS ARE RUN WELL, FISCALLY RIGHT NOW FOR THE BOARD. UH, THE DISTRICT UH, AND THAT WAS THE 16 MINUTES. OK? AND COUNCIL MEMBER DIRK. ANY UPDATE FROM PLAIN TOWNSHIP IS THERE WAS A MEETING ON THE SEVENTH, UM ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT OR ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT THEY UH, APPROVED WAS CEMETERY PLANNING? UH, THEY RETAINED MARK BORAT OHM ADVISORS TO DEVELOP A SCOPE OF WORK OR STRATEGIC PLAN FOR THE PROPERTY. THEY HAVE A LIMITED AMOUNT OF LAND OBVIOUSLY STILL AVAILABLE, AND IF THEY WANT TO REALLY ESTABLISH GOALS AND SOLUTIONS AND PROJECTIONS, UH, FOR COLIN, BARIUM AND ASH GARDEN AND A NEW MAINTENANCE BUILDING AND AN ESTUARY ON PROPERTY TO DETERMINE WHAT THEY'RE REALLY TO DO AND HOW TO BEST UTILIZE THE LAND. SO THEY BROUGHT IN A CONSULTANT, UH, TO ASSIST THEM WITH THAT PROCESS. ALSO A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THE SWIMMING POOL. SEASONAL RATES, UH, THAT THEY WERE LOOKING AT A 5% INCREASE FOR RESIDENT MEMBERSHIPS IN NON RESIDENCE GOING UP TO 10% A LOT OF DISCUSSION BACK AND FORTH ABOUT DAILY RATES. THEY DIDN'T REALLY MAKE A DETERMINATION AND THAT MEETING BUT THEY'RE TRYING TO DETERMINE HOW THEY WOULD DEAL WITH RESIDENTS VERSUS NON-RESIDENTS. WHETHER RESIDENTS OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT OR THE CITY OR THE TOWNSHIP, AND THERE WAS NO CLEAR SOLUTION TO ANY OF THAT, SO THEY'RE GOING BACK AND FORTH AND WORKING THROUGH THAT. UH DISCUSSION. UH WAS, UH, ABOUT THE, UH KLAUS ROAD STORMWATER ISSUE THAT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR SEVERAL YEARS. WE RECALL THERE WAS A GRANT FROM THE STATE FOR $150,000 TO HELP. UH, CORRECT SOME OF THE ISSUES. UH, THE ORIGINAL ESTIMATES IN 2022 FOR ABOUT WE'RE ABOUT $454,000 363 FOR WATER AND $90,000 FOR ROADS.

UH, NOW IT LOOKS AS THOUGH THE ESTIMATE TO GET THE WORK DONE IS $700,000 AND THEY'RE STRUGGLING WITH HOW MUCH, UH, FUNDING THEY HAVE AVAILABLE BEYOND THE GRANT TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE THAT AND HOW THEY MIGHT READJUST THE PROJECT A BIT TO GET SOME RESOLUTION OR SOME IMPROVEMENT, BUT CERTAINLY NOT THE $700,000 TO BE DETERMINED. AND THAT WAS IT. I SUGGESTED. THAT'S A LOT A LOT OF OTHER BUSINESS DAY TO DAY THINGS. YEAH. I'M GETTING HUNGRY LOOKING AT THAT PICTURE UP HERE.

CAN WE CHANGE THIS UP? YOU GETTING HUNGRY? LOOKING AT THAT PICTURE? ALL RIGHT, UH, REPORTS,

[14. REPORTS OF CITY OFFICIALS]

CITY OFFICIALS, UH, LET ME AGAIN JUST THANK JOSH AND SAM AND EVERYONE ELSE FOR ALL THE HARD WORK ON THAT SUPER BOWL VIDEO. I THINK THAT THAT WAS A LOT OF FUN. I THINK HAD SOME FUN WITH IT AS WELL. PROBABLY GOT A DECENT NUMBER OF HITS ON INSTAGRAM. IS THAT WHAT OUR HIGHEST UH SOCIAL MEDIA CONTENT WAS? ALL RIGHT, THAT'S VERY COOL. ALL RIGHT. WE CAN. WE CAN ENDEAVOR TO BE NUMBER ONE. UM ALSO I. I KNOW ALL THE COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE AWARE OF THIS, BUT JUST, UH, AGAIN PASSING LINE. THE SAD NEWS OF, UH, THE COUNCIL MEMBER STEVE PNS PASSING UH, YOU KNOW, SERVED OUR COMMUNITY FOR NEARLY 20 YEARS. UH, HIM AND ROBIN WERE FEATURES THAT EVERY PUBLIC EVENT I ALWAYS HAD A BRIGHT SMILE ON HIS FACE. UH, WHAT? WHAT SMART WITH THE WITH THE NUMBERS, TOO. I MEAN, NO ONE EVER, YOU KNOW. GOT A DECIMAL POINT PAST THE WITHOUT HIM NOTICING. SO UH, ALWAYS A GREAT MEMBER OF COUNCIL AND, UH, HE WILL BE MISSED. I KNOW MARLENE IS WORKING WITH FAMILY TO FIGURE OUT. UH WHAT WE CAN DO TO BE SUPPORTIVE FORWARD, AND, UH, WE'LL WAIT FOR SOME INFORMATION, IF YOU'RE ABLE TO GET THAT THANKS. UM THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR THE MARS REPORT, UH, TURNED OVER TO THE CLERK COUNSEL C MASON. SPEAKING OF MR POLAND. HE WOULD LIKE TO GET NEW HEADSHOTS. UH NEW COUNCIL OF PHOTOS, UH, COUNCIL MAY ROCHAL IS OUT THIS MEETING AND THE NEXT ONE IS EVERYONE HERE FIRST MEETING IN APRIL. ANYONE MOVING OUT APRIL? WHAT'S THE DATE? WE'RE TALKING APRIL OR MARCH, APRIL APRIL. PAUL MARS MARCH 1ST MEETING IN MARCH, SO WE COULD DO THE SECOND MEETING IN MARCH. UH, IS EVERYONE HERE ON MARCH 19TH? THE NIGHT HERE ON THE ON THE FIRST MEETING ON THE FOURTH. THAT SOUNDS LIKE SPRING BREAK. I HAVE TO APRIL 2 IS THE 1ST APRIL 20 0. THAT'S NOT SPRING BREAK. THEN I WILL BE THERE FOR THAT ONE.

THAT WHICH WHAT? I'M HERE. I'M HERE. BOTH. APRIL 2ND. SO IS IT ALL? IT'S JUST THE INDIVIDUAL

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HEADSHOTS, OR IS IT A NEW GROUP CHAT? APRIL 2ND, PUSHING IT TOO FAR IS THAT THAT'S TOO FAR OUT.

IT SOUNDS LIKE YEAH. SO ARE WE MARCH, WAS THAT. UH, COSME TALKING ABOUT HERE IS ARE YOU BACK ON MARCH 31ST, OR ARE YOU BACK SOONER? YOU BACK ON THE 31ST. OH, YEAH. NO, I'M HERE FOR THE FIRST MEETING IN MARCH. AND THEN BACK TO THE FIRST. I DON'T. I DON'T HAVE THE WHOLE GROUP UNTIL WE GET TO APRIL. HOW YOUR PHOTOSHOPPING SKILLS. YEAH, I WAS GONNA GET I GUESS WE'LL REACH OUT WITH WITH ANOTHER SOLUTION. THAT'S ALL RIGHT. WELL, WE'LL WE'LL TRY TO FIGURE THAT OUT. JUST USE OUR SHOTS FROM THE VIDEO. YEAH. UNIVERSITY OF UTAH, RIGHT GUARD. YOU DOING THIS AS YOU'RE RUNNING OUT? ALL RIGHT, MORGAN. ANY UPDATE FROM THE FINANCE DIRECTOR. JOE ANY UPDATE FROM THE CITY MANAGER? TWO QUICK ITEMS I WANTED TO, UH, BRING YOUR ATTENTION THAT, UH, DAVE WHARTON PICKED UP OUR AWARD FOR THE, UH CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT, SECOND PLACE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT AND THE PRICE RANGE OF A MILLION TO 2.5 MILLION. UH FOR THE, UH, PICKLEBALL COMPLEX THAT WE BUILT, UH, IN LARGE PART THANKS TO, UH, MIKE BARKER'S EFFORTS. UM, SO THAT WAS, UH, AGAIN SECOND PLACE. LITERALLY THREE AND THEN, UH, I RECEIVED THE RESPONSE TO AN EMAIL. ASKING ABOUT COUNCILS, UH, LEVEL OF INTEREST IN PARTICIPATING IN OUR , UH, TRIANGLE PLAN UPDATE. THIS WOULD BE A STEERING COMMITTEE. UH, I ACTUALLY HAD INTEREST FROM FOUR COUNCIL MEMBERS. UH CHIP MARLENE, MATT AND ANDREA. UH, WE COULD USE TWO. UH, WE'RE STARTING TO HIT THE MAXIMUM RANGE OF THE, UH, STEERING COMMITTEE. WE'RE PUSHING 20 AT THIS POINT. UH, SO I DON'T KNOW.

WHAT? UH, WHAT COUNCIL'S PLEASURE WOULD BE ON THAT. UM THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, UH, WELL AND WE COULDN'T HAVE MORE THAN THREE ANYWAY, BECAUSE OF, UH, THE CORUM ISSUE, SO I'M FINE WITH REMOVING FOR CONSIDERATION ON THEM. IF THAT HELPS. I'M I'M GOOD. I'M OK WITH THAT. YOU YOU DOWN A LITTLE LOWER THAN THREE. ALL RIGHT. WELL, THANK YOU, MARLENE. YEAH? NOT NOT A PROBLEM. RIGHT? THAT'S ALL I HAVE. ALL RIGHT? UH, ANY UPDATE FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY? NOTHING AT THIS TIME. FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ANY ADDITIONAL PUBLIC COMMENT. CALL FOR COUNCIL COMMENT ANY

[16. POLL FOR COUNCIL COMMENT]

ADDITIONAL COUNCIL COMMENT I HAVE IMPORTANT NEWS FOR TOM RUBIN. STARBUCKS IS REOPENING TOMORROW MORNING. YES BUT I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE EVER DRIVEN DOWN MARKET STREET AT SIX O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING, BUT YOU MIGHT SEE TOM REALLY STUMBLING ACROSS MARKET. IN HIS PJS AND HAIR. THEY JUST GOT A WHITE SHIRT ON. SO WHAT HAVE YOU BEEN DOING FOR COFFEE? ALL RIGHT.

WELL, TOMORROW MORNING, THE PAIN IS OVER. IT'S GONNA BE THAT'S THE STEAM TOMORROW. I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE THE NEW LAWN FURNITURE IS GONNA BE AWESOME. IT DOES LOOK REALLY NICE. I WAS LOOKING IN THE WINDOW TODAY BECAUSE THE REAL STUFF HASN'T COME IN YET. YEAH, YEAH, IT LOOKS PRETTY NICE IN THERE. BUT, YEAH, WE LOVE OUR STARBUCKS. THAT HAS TO BE ONE OF THE HIGHEST PERFORMING STARBUCKS IN THE COUNTRY. I WOULD THINK A LOT OF BUSINESS THROUGH THERE. I DON'T WANNA MAKE THAT MORE.

[17. EXECUTIVE SESSION]

THERE'S ONE IN EVERY CORNER. ALL RIGHT, SO DO WE STILL NEED TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION? OH, YEAH. ALL RIGHT. THEN I MOVE THAT WE ADJOURN TO EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO A HIGH REVIS CODE. 1 21 22 G ONE FOR DISCUSSION REGARDING THE APPOINTMENT. EMPLOYMENT CONVERSATION ON PUBLIC OFFICIAL AND PURSUANT TO A HIGHER REVISED CODE 1 21 22 G TWO TO CONSIDER THE PURCHASE OF THE PROPERTY FOR PUBLIC PURPOSES AND OR SELL THE PROPERTY AT COMPETING BID.

PREMATURE DISCLOSURE OF INFORMATION WOULD GIVE AN UNFAIR COMPETITIVE OR BARGAINING MANAGE TO A PERSON. WHOSE PERSONAL PRIVATE INTEREST IS ADVERSE TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC INTEREST.

ALSO THE THIRD REASON UH, FOR DISCUSSION ON, UH, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PURSUANT TO NEW ALBANY CHARTER SECTION 4.03 E. IS THERE A 2ND 2ND? AND. MAYOR BALDING COUNCILOR COUNCILOR COUNCIL MEMBER YES. COUNCIL MEMBER WELL, YES, YES VOTES TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR OTHER REASONS, STATED AT 8:15 P.M. FOR THOSE THAT ARE FOLLOWING, UH, THE STREAM. WE WILL TURN OFF THE AUDIO BUT THE VISUAL THE VIDEO WILL KEEP RUNNING AND WE, UH DO ANTICIPATE TAKING ACTION AFTERWARDS. UM, SO JUST SIT TIGHT. AND I'VE GOT ACROSS THE ROOM TO TURN THAT

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.