NOW PUSHING AUDIO. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING TIME. I'D LIKE TO CALL ORDER THE DO ALL THE TEST
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WITH YOU. UH, MONDAY. MAY 13TH 2024, COULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? YES, AND IF MEMBERS WILL TURN ON THEIR MICROPHONES MR HENSON HERE, RIGHT HERE. MR BROWN. HERE MR DA. HERE MR MA HERE HERE, MR STROLLER COUNCIL MEMBER HERE. I HAVE SEVEN PRESENT FOR THE MAY 1324[III. Action on minutes]
MEETING. WE HAVE A QUORUM. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IS THERE AN ACTION ON THE MINUTES FOR THE FEBRUARY 12TH 2024 AND THE APRIL 1820 24? SO I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH, UM, CHRISTINA OVER THE MAY FEBRUARY 12. SHE WAS GONNA DO SOMETHING. MAKE A NOTE FOR THE THIS MEETING, DID SHE? UH, OK.SHE DID MENTION THAT BUT I DID HEAR THE STORY OF THERE WERE THREE VOTES, BUT IT TURNED OUT THAT WAS A MAJORITY OF WHICH WAS SUFFICIENT TO PASS THE SO WE CAN LET THE RECORD REFLECT. WE'VE ALREADY WE'VE ALREADY APPROVED THE MINUTES OF THE 12TH. BECAUSE THERE WERE THREE OF THE RECORD REFLECT THAT WE LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT MOVE ON FOR ACTION. ON THE MINUTES OF THE APRIL 2024 MEETING. I HAD A REVISION ON PAGE THREE IN THE IN THE COMBINATION OF THE RSD CHAIR, MR HENSON, UH, WHERE IT DOES NOT MENTION THE FACT THAT I HAVE THE RARE PRIVILEGE AND HIGH HONOR OF NOMINATING MR HENSON. THAT'S ALL THAT I HAD, AND WAS AND IF NO ONE ELSE HAS ONE OF THEM MOVE APPROVAL OF THEM AS AMENDED. I SECOND ONE AND MR MALLS CORRECT, MR E, MR MALLET? YES MR HENSON? YES? YES, MISS MORE ABSTAIN. BUT I WASN'T PART OF THE MEETING. MR DAVID AND MR BROWN. I HAVE SIX YES VOTES AND ONE ABSTENTION ON THE MINUTES THE MINUTES ARE ADOPTED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UM OUR STAFF. IS THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS TO OUR AGENDA FOR THIS EVENING? SEEN NONE AT THIS TIME. I LIKE THE MINISTER OF OATH TO ALL WITNESSES THAT UH, AN AFRICAN WHO PLAN TO ADDRESS THE BORDERS. PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. HE SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH. YES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ARE THERE ANY VISITORS HERE? UH, TONIGHT
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FOR ITEMS NOT ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA. SEE NONE. I'LL MOVE FORWARD WITH MY FIRST CASE. A RB 1624 BIRTH CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS TO THE NEED TO ALLOW A NEW PATIO. THOSE INSTALLED BETWEEN THE SHARED PROPERTY LINES TO 2024 SOUTH HIGH STREET. THE APPLICANT IS LAWRENCE LONG LANDSCAPE LLC. WE HAVE STAFF REPORTERS? YES THANK YOU. SINCE YOU MENTIONED THIS IS A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATE APPLICATION TO ALLOW PATIO THAT WAS INSTALLED IN BETWEEN THE SHARED PROPERTY LINES AT 2024 SOUTH HIGH STREET. HERE'S AN AERIAL. UH I DESCRIBE IT HERE FOR YOU GUYS, BUT WE'RE GONNA BE HOVERING IN, UH ON, UH, THESE THREE PROPERTIES HERE. 14 SOUTH HIGH, 20 SOUTH HIGH AND 24 SOUTH HIGH HERE JUST FOR, UM, JUST KIND OF GET YOU GUYS FAMILIAR WITH THE AREA. THIS IS, UH, EAGLE PIZZA HERE. AND THIS IS A GRANVILLE STREET DOWN HERE.ZOOMING IN A LITTLE BIT FURTHER INTO THESE THREE PROPERTIES. YOU CAN KIND OF MAKE OUT THE PATIO SPACES HERE THAT I'M GONNA DESCRIBE HERE IN A SECOND. SO IN JUNE, 2022 THE A RB APPROVED A PATIO TO BE INSTALLED BETWEEN THE SHARED PROPERTY LINES OF 14 AND 20 SOUTH HIGH STREET, WHICH IS SHOWN IN THIS ORANGE COLOR HERE. AFTER THAT APPROVAL, UH, THE NEW PATIO WAS INSTALLED CONNECTING INTO THE EXISTING PATIO AT 2024 SOUTH HIGH STREET, WHICH IS THE PATIO SPACE AT SHOWN IN RED. AS I MENTIONED JUST A FEW MINUTES AGO WITH THE AIR BE BACK IN 2022 APPROVED THE PATIO THAT'S SHOWN IN ORANGE HERE WITH THE DESIGN THAT'S SHOWN HERE ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE OF YOUR SCREEN. UH THE DESIGN WAS APPROVED WITH SEVERAL CONDITIONS THAT'S STAFF USED TO EVALUATE, UM, THE NEW PATIO SPACE AND OUR STAFF REPORT. SO UM, THE EXISTING PATIO? UH, BRICK HAS BEEN USED ALL THE ALL THE WALLS, THE PIERS AND THE EDGE. UH THE PATIO SPACE AND THE CITY ARCHITECT APPROVED A COMPLIMENT. THEY WERE TO BE USED FOR THE MAIN T SPACE. SO THIS THIS THE MIDDLE SPACE. UPON INSPECTION OF THE NEW PATIO SPACE WE DETER STAFF WAS ABLE TO STAFF DETERMINED THAT, UH ALL OF THOSE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL WERE MET WITH THE ADDITIONAL PATIO SPACE AS YOU CAN SEE THE EDGES OF THIS, UH, SHOWN THE PICTURES HERE. THIS IS ALL BRICK
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. THE SAME COMPLEMENTARY PAPER SERVICE IS USED, UH, IN THE MIDDLE AREA, AND THEN, UM, THERE'S ALSO, UH, PIERS AND WALLS THAT ARE THAT ARE BRICK AS REQUIRED FOR THE EXISTING SPACE.THE ONLY THING THAT WAS NOT INCLUDED AS PART OF THE PERMIT FOR THE NEW PATIO SPACE WAS A THE LANDSCAPE PLAN, WHICH WE DO HAVE A RECOMMENDED CONDITION OF APPROVAL ON OUR STAFF REPORT THAT SHOULD THE BOARD APPROVE THIS OBLIGATION TONIGHT THAT IN UPDATED LANDSCAPE CAN BE PROVIDED FOR THIS NEW PATIO SPACE. WE DID MAKE A NOTE IN OUR STAFF REPORT FOR THE AIR BEAT TO EVALUATE THE APPLICANT INDICATES THAT THE REAR PATIO SPACE, SO THIS IS THE DESIGN THAT WAS ORIGINALLY APPROVED BY THE A B FOR THE, UM 14 SOUTH HIGH PATIO THEY DO INDICATE AND THERE'S SUBMIT THAT THE DESIGN DID SLIGHTLY CHANGE TOWARDS THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY LINE AS SHOWN HERE IN THIS AERIAL IMAGE, SO WE JUST ASKED THAT THE AIR BE EVALUATED THAT TONIGHT AS PART OF THE REVIEW THIS APPLICATION, UH, WHEN WE DID OUR INSPECTIONS, YOU, UH ALL THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL. IT WAS JUST BEING MAD WITH EVEN WITH THAT MODIFIED DESIGN, UM AND, UH, ALL THE MATERIALS, UM ARE ALL CONSISTENT , UM, BETWEEN THE REST OF THE PATIO SPACE AS WELL. UM SO WE JUST WANNA MAKE NOTE OF THAT FOR YOU GUYS, AND WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WHEN WAS THE INSPECTION DONE? EARLIER THIS YEAR. AND SO WE HAVE THE APPLICANT HERE AS WELL. WE CAN LOOK THAT UP, BUT WE BELIEVE IT WAS REALLY THIS YEAR, MAYBE LAST YEAR, BUT THE INSPECTION WAS DONE. MHM. NOVEMBER. 23. THANK YOU. WHAT? WHAT WHAT WOULD EXPLAIN THE DELAY AND BRINGING THIS TO UH, SO WE WORKED WITH THE APPLICANT THAT WE NOTIFIED THEM. UH, SO I THINK THE DELAY WAS JUST PUTTING TOGETHER THE APPLICATION. THE PLANS. UM WE ALSO WORKED WITH THEM TO EVALUATE IF THERE WAS ANY ADDITIONAL ITEMS THAT NEEDED TO COME BEFORE THE ARCHITECTURE REVIEW BOARD. WE ALWAYS ENCOURAGE THE PROPERTY OWNERS AND APPLICANTS YOU KNOW, TO SORT OF GET AS MANY BIRDS WITH ONE STONE AS POSSIBLE, SO WE ACTUALLY HAVE STAFF PURPOSELY DELAYED THIS. IT WASN'T THE APPLICANT IN THIS CASE JUST TO SEE IF THERE WAS IF THERE IF WE SHOULD WAIT, UM, TO SEE IF ANY ADDITIONAL ITEM THAT WE COULD PUT IN ONE APPLICATION FOR THE BOARD TO REVIEW SO IT WASN'T SO MUCH THE APPLICANT IT WAS MORE STAFF IN THIS CASE, MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE GIVING EVERYTHING COMPREHENSIVELY IF NECESSARY, AND IF WE DON'T APPROVE THIS WHAT HAPPENS? UH, SO IF IT'S NOT APPROVED, OR IF IT'S PROVED AS MODIFICATIONS, THEN THE APPLICANTS WILL EITHER HAVE TO, UH, REMOVE THE PATIO OR MODIFY IT, UM, TO MATCH THE AIR BS APPROVAL. THAT BRINGS ME TO MY REAL QUESTION, WHICH IS WHEN WE APPROVE SOMETHING. THE QUESTION IS WHY DIDN'T YOU BUILD WHAT WE APPROVED? WE HAVE TO TALK TO MY IF YOU COULD PLEASE STEP ON THE RECORDS SO THAT YOU CAN GET ON THE RECORDING. PLEASE GIVE YOUR YOURSELF I'M NATE BOSH. I'M THE OWNER OF THE THREE BUILDINGS IN QUESTION AND THE COMMON SPACE.
THANK YOU. AND SO THE QUESTION IS, YOU KNOW WE APPROVE IT, BUT BUT YOU KIND OF WANT OFTEN. JUST BUILD SOMETHING ELSE. YEAH. UM, WHEN I WAS TALKING TO THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT, UM I DID REQUEST A MODIFICATION IS THE MODIFICATION THAT WE ARE SPEAKING OF IS THAT THE SQUARE PIT AREA IS THAT IT? YES, THAT'S RIGHT. OK UM, I DID REQUEST. UH MY LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT, UH, FURTHER IN TO THE DESIGN THAT I WANTED THERE TO BE KIND OF A FOCAL POINT TOWARDS THE BACK.
NOT NOT CLOSE UP TO THE STREET. I JUST WANTED A MODIFICATION DONE. AND HE HAD SAID IT WOULDN'T BE ANY PROBLEM. YEAH. FUNDING HONEST THAT WAS IT. UM I? I DIDN'T PUT IN THE APPLICATION. UM, I REQUEST THAT HE DO THE WORK. I BE TOTALLY HONEST, WAS NOT AWARE IT WAS INCONSISTENT WITH THE ORIGINAL PLANS WERE PUT OUT. AND BUT WHO DID THE ORIGINAL APPLICATION? LORENZ LANDSCAPE. OK, SO THEY JUST I GOT APPROVAL, AND THEN THEY WENT OFF AND DID THEY WENT OFF AND DID STUFF FACE TO FIND IT AND THEY DIDN'T THINK TO COME BACK. BUT CLEARLY AFTER THE SECOND PATIO THAT JUST THAT JUST CAME OUT OF BLUE OUT OF OUT OF THE AIR. UH I DID REQUEST THAT HE DO A SECOND PATIO. UM I REQUESTED THAT I SAW THE FIRST ONE THAT CAME OUT SO NICE. UM I ASKED FOR CONTINUITY THROUGHOUT THE AREA. UM AND HE SAID THAT WOULD BE A PROBLEM. AND BUT BUT SOMEWHERE BETWEEN THE LINE AND GETTING IT APPROVED YES, OK. I. I HAVE A QUESTION AND THAT IS ON THE APPROVED PLANS ALONG THE MAIN STREET HERE. THIS WALL IS MUCH DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE HAVE HERE. CORRECT. YES AND I CAN ACTUALLY SPEAK TO THAT. IF YOU DON'T MIND, SO AS PART OF IT, I
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DIDN'T GO THROUGH THIS CLEARLY. BUT AS PART OF THE ORIGINAL APPROVAL, THE BOARD DID REQUIRE THAT A SEATING WALL MUST BE PROVIDED ON THE ENTIRE FRONTAGE ON HIGH STREET WHERE THE PATIO IS PRESENT. SO THAT IS WHY, UM, THAT THAT SEEM ALL GREW IN LENGTH. AND WHAT ABOUT THE SCREENING OF PO ACROSS THAT ENTIRE WALL IS THAT MORTAR AND THE BRICK AND THE MORTAR, IT'S NOT A BUFF MORTAR. IT'S AND PRETTY HARSH AS YOU LOOK AT IT. WHEN YOU DRIVE PAST ELM STREET.IT WAS MY THOUGHT WE DID HAVE OUR LANDSCAPE CLAIM WAS SUBMITTED FOR THAT PORTION OF THE PROJECT IN OUR CITY LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT TO APPROVE THE CROWD THAT THE LANDSCAPING THAT WAS SHOWN AS WAS SHOWN PREVIOUSLY OR, AS WAS SHOWN THE LANDSCAPE. WE HAVE A REVISED I DON'T HAVE IT PULLED UP HERE NOW, UM AND IS IT IN OR IS IT I BELIEVE SO, YES. IS THAT OTHER REVISED LANDSCAPING IN ACROSS THE FRONT. OF THE THIS ENTIRE AREA. HERE. OK? I'M SORRY YOU WERE ASKING WHAT IS IN FRONT? WHAT'S ON THE STREET SIDE OF THIS, UH, BRICK WALL EXTERIOR TO THE WALL IN BETWEEN THAT AND THE, UM THERE ARE TWO DOGWOOD TREES AND THERE ARE BELIEVE THREE BOXWOOD BUSHES THAT WILL REACH A HEIGHT LENGTH THAT WILL EXCEED THE YEAH. CAN WE GO BACK TO THE PICTURE? UH OF THE OF THE ENTIRE ASSEMBLAGE. YEAH, THANK YOU. THAT'S GOOD. RIGHT? UM SO THAT WAS MY OR YOU CAN TELL MY LITTLE ANNOYANCE THAT THIS HAS BEEN BUILT. I UNDERSTAND IT. I DON'T FIND IT. OFFENSIVE. UM BUT IT IS FRUSTRATING TO BE APPROVING SOMETHING. IT'S ALREADY BEEN BUILT. THAT SAID, UM IF I HAD THIS, THIS CAME TO ME, I WOULD HAVE APPROVED IT. SO I'M NOT INCLINED TO WITHHOLD APPROVAL. UM BUT THAT'S MY VIEW. ALL AT OTHER PEOPLE ON THE BOARD. UH, FOR THEIR, UM OFFER THEIR VIEWS. OH, WAIT TO GET MY OPINION BEFORE I HEAR FROM THE REST OF THE BOARD. TO THE EXTENT I HAVE ANY ANY ISSUES WITH THE FRONT OF THESE PROPERTIES, IT GOES MORE TO THE WAY SOME OF THE EXISTING WAR, SOME OF THE CEMENT AND OTHER STUFF IN THE EXISTING STAIRS GOING INTO THE BUILDINGS. ISN'T AS NICE AS AS OF COURSE, WHAT'S BEEN BUILT, BUT THAT'S YOU KNOW, THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH APPROVING APPROVING THIS SO WELL. SO ON THE WHOLE IT IT IMPROVES. STREET. THAT'S WHY I DRIVE BY SUBJECT TO ANYBODY ELSE'S COMMENTS. I GUESS I DO HAVE A PROCEDURAL QUESTION FOR STAFF. UM SO IT'S RARE THAT WE ARE FACED WITH A APPROVAL OF SOMETHING THAT'S ALREADY BEEN BUILT, BUT UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES, WHAT IS THE, UM C RESPONSE WHEN THIS DOES HAPPEN, I MEAN I JUST TO PIGGYBACK ON MR ADEN'S QUESTION. YOU KNOW, WE AND I WOULD AGREE. I THINK WE'RE TRYING TO EVALUATE THE WORK ON ITS ON ITS MERITS AS BILL, BUT MY QUESTION WOULD BE, UM, BECAUSE THERE IS SOME ANNOYANCE IN THE SENSE THAT WE'RE CHARGED TO APPROVE THESE THINGS PRIOR TO THEM BEING CONSTRUCTED. BECAUSE THE CITY LEVY A FINE. WHAT ARE THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE APPLICANT IN THE SITUATION LIKE THIS WHEN IT HAS HAPPENED IN THE PAST? JUST SO WE HAVE SOME CONTEXT THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. PLEASE. SURE SO THE FIRST STEP IS ALWAYS TO NOTIFY THE PROPERTY OWNER OR DEVELOPER OF THE VIOLATION OR THAT YOU KNOW, SOME APPROVAL HAS BEEN MISSED. UM OUR GOAL IS NOT TO, YOU KNOW, FIND LEVIES. OUR GOAL IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S GOOD DESIGN. IT'S MEETING THE DESIGN GOALS OF THE CITY AND THAT THE PROPERTY IS ULTIMATELY BROUGHT INTO COMPLIANCE. AND AGAIN. THAT'S WHY YOU KNOW, WE SLIGHTLY DELAY THIS. WE JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE GETTING ALL THOSE APPROVALS NECESSARY SO THAT THE BOARD COULD VIEW THINGS. UH, COMPREHENSIVE. AND JUST TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT COMING, YOU KNOW, PIECE BY PIECE HERE, BUT, UM, THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED IN THIS CASE OVER THE COURSE OF LIKE THE PAST FEW MONTHS. UM SO ULTIMATELY, UM, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT ALL THE APPROVALS ARE IN PLACE, AND THEN IT'S MEETING ALL THE CODE REQUIREMENTS. WE STILL DO OUR FULL EVALUATION, EVEN THOUGH IT'S BUILT. YEAH WE EVALUATED BASED ON THE PREVIOUS ONE THAT WAS CONSTRUCTED WITH YOU, AND WE AGREE. WE DO THINK IT'S ADDITIVE TO HIGH STREETS. UM SO WE HAVE NO CONDITIONS AS FAR AS LIKE CHANGING REMOVALS. WE HAVE TO MAKE THOSE, UNFORTUNATELY, SOMETIMES IN THE PAST. LUCKILY THIS IS NOT ONE OF THOSE CASES. UM BUT WE DO THINK THAT, YEAH, THERE COULD BE SOME ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING DONE TO THE PROPERTY, AND THAT'S WHY WE ASK THAT THAT BE A CONDITION OF APPROVAL TONIGHT. OK AND I DO HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THAT. UM BUT ALSO FROM THE CITY'S PERSPECTIVE, IS IT SO THIS WAS EVALUATED IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW,
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A LOT COVERAGE AND PER AREAS ALL THOSE KINDS OF REQUIREMENTS IN TERMS OF THE ALLOWABLE AREA OF THE PATIO AS IT RELATES TO THE TO THE PROPERTY ACREAGE. YEAH. BASED ON THE URBAN CENTER CODE.UM IT HAS, UH, A VERY ROBUST LAW COVERAGE IMPACT. IT MAY NOT EVEN HAVE ANY SENSE IN THE HISTORIC VILLAGE CENTER. SO THANK YOU. UM AND THANKS FOR THE EXPLANATION, UM, SO BACK TO THE MERITS OF THE DESIGN AND THE AND THE LAYOUT AS IT EXISTS TODAY, LOOKING AT THE, UM AT THE TWO PATIOS, MY COMMENT WOULD BE THAT I KNOW THERE IS SOME DEGREE OF, UM, VARIABILITY WHEN IT COMES TO THE PROPERTIES THAT FRONT HIGH STREET IN TERMS OF THEIR SET BACK OFF THE STREET, ONE HAVING A PORCH ONE NOT HAVING A PORCH JUST HOW THAT'S VIEWED. BUT I WOULD ARGUE THAT WE NOW HAVE INTRODUCED TWO RETAINING WALL SLASH SCREEN WALLS THAT DON'T SHARE A COMMON FRONTAGE WITH EACH OTHER. UH THERE'S NO THERE'S NO UNITY BETWEEN THE TWO AS IT RELATES TO THE RHYTHM OF HIGH STREET IS MY OBSERVATION, AND THEN I WOULD ADD TO THAT THE MORTAR COLOR AND SOME OF THE SUBTLETIES OF THAT.
I THINK MY CONCERN WOULD BE THIS. TO BE FAIR AND REASONABLE IN MY, YOU KNOW, REACTION TO THIS. I DON'T TAKE ISSUE WITH THE LAYOUT. BUT I DO THINK THAT THERE SHOULD BE A FAIRLY HIGH STANDARD HELD AS FAR AS WHAT WE'RE DOING TO THE RHYTHM OF AESTHETIC ALONG HIGH STREET, BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET AND I THINK WHAT I SEE IS POTENTIALLY A MISSED OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THAT. WHAT WOULD YOU DO? WITH A CLEAN SLATE. WELL I THINK THERE SHOULD BE SOME EVALUATION OF THE FRONTAGES OF BALL THREE PROPERTIES THAT ARE ON SCREEN THAT I SEE RIGHT NOW AND TO ESTABLISH A COMMON LINE FOR THE TWO SCREEN WALLS THAT HAD THE BRICK SELECTION AND THE CAP DONE IN SUCH A WAY THAT WOULD BE MORE COMPLEMENTARY TO THE NATURE OF I MEAN, HIGH STREET IS A DIFFERENT STREET COMPARED TO ALL THE OTHERS WITHIN THE WITHIN THE CENTER, AND IT DESERVES SOME UNIQUE ATTENTION AND CONSIDERATION. AND I THINK HERE IT LOOKS TO ME LIKE AND MAYBE YOU COULD ANSWER THIS. IT LOOKS LIKE THE PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH. UM WHICH WOULD BE 24. IS THAT RIGHT? UM IS THAT I DON'T KNOW WHAT TREE IS RIGHT THERE BETWEEN THE TWO, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE THE SCREEN WALL WAS SET BACK BASED ON THE DRIP LINE OF THE TREE. BUT I'M JUST EVALUATING THAT FROM THE PHOTO IS THAT HOW WHAT WAS THE BASIS OF THE OF THE LOCATION OF THAT SCREEN WHILE ON 24. WHY IS IT HERE AND NOT HERE? THE LINE UP WITH THAT. THE TRADE A LOT, OK? THERE'S A SECOND RETAINING WALL. THAT IS BELOW THIS PHOTO THAT RUNS ALONG THE ENTIRE CORRECT CORRECT, WHICH IS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT BRICK AND MORTAR. HANDMADE BRICK AND MORTAR AND CAP. RICK SIDEWALK.
AND THEN THIS. THESE TWO ELEMENTS. RISE ABOVE THIS. AND AREN'T CONSISTENT WITH THE REST OF THE ARCHITECTURE. I AGREE. YEAH THAT'S MY THAT'S MY CONCERN. IN MY OPINION, IT NEEDS TO BE SCREENED. CONSISTENTLY. IF NOT THREE BOXWOODS AND TWO CORN METAL TREES. IT NEEDS TO BE SCREENED WITH UM MORE BOX WITH IT NEEDS TO BE MORE COMPLETELY SCREEN IN MY OPINION. OR ADDITIONALLY, STAY IN THE MORTAR AND RECONSIDER THE CAP ON THE BRICK WALL TO BE MORE CONSISTENT WITH THE WITH THE REST OF THE STREETSCAPE. I MEAN, I'M OPEN TO ANY OR SOME OF THOSE CONDITIONS, BUT I THINK SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED THERE, AND I THINK THE REST CAN IN MY OPINION IS ACCEPTABLE. YEAH. SO I WOULD SAY THE STAFF THAT IF THEY CAN COME UP WITH A LANDSCAPE SOLUTION THAT WILL UH, SCREEN. THE SECOND RETAINING WALL THAT IS THE RETAIN WALL FOR THESE TWO PATIOS. THE APPROVED AND UNAPPROVED UM I'M I'M OK WITH THAT. BUT YOU CAN'T INTRODUCE THOSE TWO ELEMENTS SO CLOSE TO ONE ANOTHER. FROM THE STREET. WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING PAST IT, IT'S JUST TWO STAR TO NO. THE DIFFERENCE. AND. I'M IN ALIGNMENT WITH WITH THOSE COMMENTS IF SOMEBODY IF SOMEBODY CAN COME UP WITH A MOTION I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT YOU CAN WORK WITH STAFF. UH THEN WE WOULD APPROVE. WITH THE CITY LANDSCAPE. CITY ARCHITECT TO PROPERLY SCREENED THESE NEW ELEMENTS. RETAINING WALLS AND COMPLETELY SCREENED. UM THE TWO
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ELEMENTS. I'D BE OK WITH THINGS. SECONDARY. UM NON APPROVED PATIO AS IT'S BUILT. BUT IT NEEDS TO BE PROPERLY SCREENED FROM THE STREET. AND THE LIGHTING PLAN SUBMITTED THERE'S NO YOU LIVE WITH THAT? YES, I WILL SUBMIT PLANS BEFORE THE SCREEN. THANK YOU SO MUCH. IS THERE A SECOND? A SECOND. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT. UH, MR HENSON? YES. YES, MR. YES, MR BROWN. YES MD OR SORRY, MR DAVID . YES MR MALLET? YES AND MR. YES, I HAVE SEVEN. YES, VOTES ON THE MOTION. MOTION PASSES. I THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE IT. I JUST ASK A QUICK QUESTION. I'M I'M FINE WITH EVERYTHING. YOU GUYS HAVE SENT SOME MORE QUESTIONS TO THE STAFF. UM ULTIMATE AUCKLAND. WE HAVE THINGS THAT COME TO US, WHERE RESIDENTS RELY ON THE CONTRACTORS WHO TELL THEM THIS IS OK. I'LL TAKE CARE OF IT. IS THIS A CONTRACTOR THAT WE'RE FAMILIAR WITH? IN THE CITY? THE CONTRACTOR TELL YOU THIS WAS OK TO BUILD. I MEAN, IS THIS THIS SOMETHING THAT YOU KNOW? WE ENCOUNTER WITH THIS CONTRACT? I JUST CURIOUS WHETHER THE CONTRACTOR IS FREE WHEELING IT OUT THERE OR IT'S SOMEBODY WE SHOULD BE AWARE OF, OR CONCERNED ABOUT IN THE CITY STAFF. NOT WITH ANY ACTION TAKEN HERE, BUT WHEN THEY BUILD AN ENTIRE PATIO WITHOUT APPROVAL, KNOWING THEY HAD TO GET THE FIRST ONE APPROVED THROUGH THE AND I SAT THROUGH THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW IN 22 FOR THAT ONE, BUT THEN THEY BUILD A SEPARATE ONE. AND DON'T GET APPROVAL. I'M I'M JUST CURIOUS IF THIS IS THAT CREDIBLE, A CONTRACTOR SO ALL CONTRACTORS HAVE TO REGISTER WITHIN THE CITY, NEW ALBANY SO WE COULD CHECK TO SEE IF IT'S REGISTERED IN, UM YOU KNOW, THERE ARE CERTAIN SITUATIONS WHERE IF A CONTRACTOR HAS REPEATED VIOLATIONS OF DOING WORK WITHOUT PERMITS, THEN THE CITY DOES HAVE THE ABILITY AND THE RIGHT TO NOT ALLOW CONSTRUCTION AND TO DENY THE REGISTRATION SO EFFECTIVELY THAT CONTRACTOR CAN NO LONGER DO WORK WITHIN THE CITY. SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE THE NEXT STEPS FOR THE CITY TO INVESTIGATE. I THINK IT WOULD BE WORTHWHILE THAT THAT CONTRACTOR IS NOTIFIED THAT THEY VIOLATED AND BUILT WITHOUT APPROVAL, AND THEN YOU CAN TAKE IT FROM THERE AND LEFT THE POOR OWNER TO COME UP BEFORE A BOARD THAT WAS OUT. THANK YOU FOR COMING TODAY. YEAH, I AGREE. I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT ON THE DOCKET IS A RB 21 2024 TO GIVE APPROPRIATENESS FOR A NEW SIGN OF THE REAL ELEVATION AT 200 MARKET STREET. THE AFRICAN AND SIGN COMPANY.WITH STAFF. GOOD EVENING. UM AS YOU KNOW, THE NEW ALBANY BRANCH OF THE COLUMBUS METROPOLITAN LIBRARY IS LOCATED IN MARKET SQUARE AT 200 MARKET STREET, AS SHOWN IN RED AND THIS LITTLE DOT HERE IS WHERE THE NEW SIGN WILL BE LOCATED. AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE SITE PLAN. THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A NEW SIGN IN THE REAR FACING ROM PARK AND SORT OF THE DIRECTION OF THAT BRIDGE JUST ALONG DUBLIN, GRANVILLE. AND WHAT YOU JUST SHOWED IS NOT. WHAT IS THERE NOW, RIGHT? THIS IS WELL BEFORE THE BRIDGE WAS BUILT AND EVERYTHING ELSE YES. SO THAT I PLAN IS HISTORIC, BUT, UM, BUILDING THE BUILDING HASN'T CHANGED. THANK YOU. UM IT APPEARS THE SIGN WILL BE 22.5 SQUARE FEET AND LOCATED ON THE REAR ELEVATION ABOVE THE FIRST STORY WINDOW IN THE NORTHEASTERN CORNER OF THE BUILDING. IT'S KIND OF DIFFICULT TO SEE FROM HERE, BUT IT'S BASICALLY JUST ABOVE THE CENTER WINDOW. THE SIGN IS SIMILAR TO THE FRONT ELEVATION WITH THE SAME FONT, COLOR AND DESIGN AND THE APPLICANT PROPOSES THE INSTALLATION OF HALO LIGHTING.
THE SIGN HAS MET ALL CODE REQUIREMENTS AND APPEARS CONSISTENT WITH THE ARCHITECTURAL CHARACTER OF THE BUILDING AND THE OVERALL VILLAGE CENTER. AND AT THIS TIME STAFF WILL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. SO, UM GOOD STAFF. CONSIDER AT ALL. ISSUES ABOUT THE FACT THAT THE SIGN IS REALLY OF I MEAN, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY IN THE FRONT THE BUILDING IS HAS A LARGE KIND OF
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ALMOST TWO STORY ENTRANCE. AND OVER THE PARCHED ENTRANCE. WE HAVE LIBRARY AND ABOVE IT IS CHARLOTTE IS CHARLOTTE'S NAME? AND ON THE IN THE FRONT. THEN THERE'S TWO APPENDAGES WITH DEPENDED RIGHT? IN THE BACK. THIS BIG SIGN IS PROPOSED FOR THE LEFT APPENDAGE, NOT THE CENTER. AND I UNDERSTAND WHY THE CENTER ISN'T BEING PROPOSED BECAUSE YOU COULDN'T SEE IT BECAUSE THERE'S A TREE THERE. UM, HAVE YOU DID YOU FACTOR THAT IN AT ALL IN YOUR ANALYSIS? YEAH, WE DID. THINK ABOUT THAT. AND SO I CAN TELL YOU FROM STAS PERSPECTIVE WE CAN HEAR FROM THE APPLE 10 AS WELL. PUTTING ON THIS SIDE MAXIMIZES THE VISIBILITY OF, UM, AIMING IT TOWARDS, UH HA, OR RANGE CROSSING HERE. THE PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE. SO WHILE IT IS OFF CENTER AS FAR AS THE BUILDING AS A WHOLE GOES, IT IS CENTERED ON. I GUESS THIS WING THIS APPENDAGE OF THE BUILDING AND AGAIN SORRY. IT IS A LITTLE HARD TO SEE HERE, BUT IT IS CENTERED OVER THIS. WE DO THINK IT MAKES SENSE. AND WE UNDERSTAND WHY THEY'RE PUTTING IT HERE, SINCE IT DOES HAVE ESSENTIALLY A DIRECT VIEW OVER THE BRIDGE LOOKING AT, UM I GUESS NORTH DIRECTION, SO WE FELT IT WAS AN APPROPRIATE LOCATION BASED ON THE AMOUNT OF PEDESTRIAN ACTIVITY. UM AND GATHERING SPACES, YOU KNOW, AND LOOKING AT ROSE FROM PARK AS A WHOLE. YEAH. NOW WHAT? I'M I'M LET ME TURN OVER TO THE APPLICANT AND THEN I MAY HAVE SOME OTHER PLEASE COME FORWARD I. I DO HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION BEFORE THE APPLICANT. UM, STEPS FORWARD IS WAS THERE A REASON THAT MRS. KESSLER'S NAME IS BELOW ON ONE SIDE AND ABOVE. ON THE OTHER. THAT? I GUESS THAT WAS ANOTHER QUESTION. I WOULD, TOO, AND THAT'S GOING TO BE A SO JUST WANTED TO GET THAT ONE IN BEFORE WE HEARD FROM THE APPLICANT. THANKS. MY NAME IS SEAN WHITE WITH MORRISON I COMPANY UM I AM KRISTEN SUTTON WITH THE COLUMBUS METROPOLITAN LIBRARY. THANK YOU. TO YOUR QUESTION AS FAR AS THE LIBRARY. ME AND UNDERNEATH. UM WE COULD PROPOSE THAT DESIGN TO THE LIBRARY. IF YOU'D LIKE. THAT'S THAT'S JUST WHAT WAS PROPOSED TO OUR COMPANY. UM IT SEEMS LIKE IT SEEMS WEIRD THAT THE FRONT SAYS CHARLOTTE P KESSLER LIBRARY AND THIS, SAYS LIBRARY SHET P KESSLER, BUT THAT'S THAT. LET ME COME BACK. HERE'S MY CONCERN. RIGHT NOW. THERE'S A TREE. WHICH IS A PERFECT REASON NOT TO PUT THIS BIG SIGN IN THE SENATE. FREEZE ON A WAY OF DYING. WE'RE GETTING THAT DOWN. AND SO WHEN WE APPROVE THIS VERY LARGE SIGN ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THIS BUILDING WHEN THE TREE GOES AWAY. WE'VE APPROVED A VERY LARGE SIGN ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE BUILDING. WHEN IT REALLY SHOULD BE IN THE SAME. I HAVE A FAULT. ONE POINT WHEN WE WERE WORKING ON THE ROSEMONT PARK, THERE WAS TALK OF PUTTING DOORS IN THE BACK. AS A YOU KNOW, POSSIBILITY BUILDING IS THAT STILL POTENTIALLY GOING TO HAPPEN TO PUT DOORS IN THE BACK? SO THE LIBRARY IS CURRENTLY EVALUATING OUR CAPITAL PLANS FOR THE FOLLOWING YEARS. WE HAVEN'T ANNOUNCED ANY CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT WOULD GO BEYOND 2025. SO AS OF RIGHT NOW, I CAN'T SPEAK TO ANY EXISTING PLANS TO DO THAT. BECAUSE IF THAT EVER HAPPENS THEN IT DEFINITELY MAKES SENSE FOR THAT TO BE IN THE CENTER. IT IT IT AND THE OTHER POINT BEING IS, I GUESS. LET ME FINISH MY PITCH. SO WE APPROVE THIS ON THE LEFT SIDE. THREE DOMINANT WE'VE APPROVED THEM ON THE LEFT SIDE, AND WE'LL BE MUCH RATHER HAVE IT IN THE MIDDLE. BECAUSE IF THE TREE IS DEAD, THEN YOU CAN SEE IT IN THE MIDDLE WHEN YOU'RE COMING ACROSS THE BRIDGE ANYWAYS. RIGHT I MEAN, YOU'RE YOU'RE GONNA YOU'RE GONNA LOOK UP THERE. BRING ME BACK THE I GUESS WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A YOU KNOW YOU'RE GONNA SEE IT IN THE MIDDLE, BECAUSE YOU LOOK AT THE MIDDLE AND SO WE'VE APPROVED IT ON THE LEFT SIDE. AND PART OF MY REACTION IS, CAN WE NOT GET DURING THE DURATION WHEN THIS TREE IS THERE. THE SAME EFFECT FOR THE LIBRARY BY HAVING SAY, A POST TIME AND WHEN PEOPLE THAT WAY PEOPLE KNOW IT'S THERE, WE PUT A POST SIGN UP. THERE'S THE LIBRARY. WE DON'T WE HAVE NOT PUT THIS BIG SIGN ON THE LEFT SIDE. OFF SEVEN. OF THIS VERY ATTRACTIVE BUILDING. I. I DO THINK THE PLACEMENT OF THE SIGN. UM DOES NOT TAKE THE TREE INTO CONSIDERATION, RECOGNIZING THAT LANDSCAPING DOES CHANGE OVER TIME BELIEVE THE PLACEMENT OF THE SINUS IN AESTHETIC CHOICE. AND THAT AND WE MAKE AESTHETIC CHOICES, AND THAT'S WHY IT SEEMS TO DAY AND THAT'S WHERE SO I GUESS. THAT'S GOT MY I'M SORRY. JUST TO JUST A QUICK QUESTION. UM ONE WHY IS THERE A NEED FOR A SECOND SIGN? TWO. I DON'T KNOW OF ANY OTHER PROPERTIES. IN THAT WHOLE[00:30:04]
COMMERCIAL AREA WHERE WE SIGNED BOTH THE FRONT AND THE BACK OF THE BUILDING. WHY THE INHERENT NEED TO PUT US ON IT. AND AS THE FRONT SIGN HALO LIT. THOSE ARE THE THREE QUESTIONS I HAVE SO THEN I'LL SIT BACK. BE QUIET. YEAH, THE FRONT LINE CAME A BIT AS WELL. SO OK. MY UNDERSTANDING THEY WANTED SOMETHING ON THE FRONT AND ON THE BACK TO SOMEWHAT MATCH SO THAT NOTHING STOOD OUT WHO'S THERE? THE LIBRARY. WE CAN BLAME PAT. YEAH WE SHOULD HAVE BROUGHT HIM HERE TONIGHT. HE'S RETIRING. HE'S RETIRED. HE CAN COME AND SAY WHATEVER HE WANTS. SO, I. I THINK THAT THE SIGN ON THE BACK IS FOR AWARENESS OF PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY WHO MAY NOT BE FAMILIAR WITH THE LOCATION. UM, THERE'S ALSO A CONVERSATION, UM WITH THE DONOR. YEAH, SO I MEAN, I'M FROM MY STANDPOINT. I'M ON AGAIN, GIVEN THE I NATURE OF LANDSCAPING AND GIVEN HOW IT ATTRACTED THIS BUILDING WAS I'M RELUCTANT TO TAKE A LARGE SIGN LIKE THAT AND PUT IT OFF CENTER.AND SO FROM MY STANDPOINT, I'D BE MUCH MORE INCLINED TO APPROVE. A POST SIGN OR SOMETHING ELSE THAT ISN'T AS LARGE AS THOSE IF THEY IF THEY WANT ONE IF THEY WANT TO SIGN IN THE BACK. BUT THEY HAVE THIS BIG SIGN OFF CENTER WHICH JUST SEEMS TO ME THE NOT WE'RE NOT DOING OUR JOB IN TERMS OF APPROVING WHERE SIGNS OUGHT TO GO, BUT I KNOW OTHERS MAY DISAGREE WITH ME. WHAT KIND OF TREE IS PLANTED THERE? IT'S GOT RED LEAVES. I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T THINK IT'S A RED MAPLE, BUT IT'S IT. RIGHT NOW IT GOES RIGHT UP TO THE TOP OF THE OF THE CENTER. IT'S NOT LIKE A PESKY CLEVELAND SELECT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. IT COULD BE A MAPLE A. IT'S NOT A IT'S NOT.
IT'S NOT A MAPLE. OK, BUT IT'S GOT LEAVES ARE RED. NOTED. I HAVE MIXED EMOTIONS ABOUT THIS.
I UNDERSTAND THE REASON FOR THE SIGN BEING ONE OF AWARENESS AND PROMOTION. I, I UNDERSTAND. UM AND I DO THINK THE CHARACTER OF THE CROSSING IT'S A IT'S A THROUGHWAY. IT'S A PEDESTRIAN THROUGHWAY. I MEAN, IF IT I UNDERSTAND THE RATIONALE THAT BEING SAID, I DO SHARE THE AESTHETIC SENTIMENT WHOLEHEARTEDLY. I MEAN IT. IT BELONGS IN THE CENTER OF THE BUILDING. THERE'S NO DOUBT IN MY MIND, HOWEVER. THAT MAY POTENTIALLY UNDERMINE THE PURPOSE OF THE SIGN AND THAT I CAN'T SPEAK TO, BUT THAT'S WHERE MY THAT'S WHERE I FEEL IS APPROPRIATE. IT IS TRICKY WITH A TWO SIDED BUILDING LIKE THIS WITH A SIGN ON THE REAR AND A SIGN ON THE FRONT AND I DO THINK THAT CONSISTENCY MATTERS, PARTICULARLY GIVEN THE ARCHITECTURE OF THE BUILDING ITSELF. I MEAN, SO, YEAH. WHAT I'M SAYING, YEAH, I THINK WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS, I'M HAPPY TO APPROVE THAT BIG SIGN, BUT IT'S GOTTA BE IN THE SUMMER. WHICH MAKES NO SENSE NOW, SO MY POINT BEING IS I WOULD APPROVE A PRO I. I WOULD APPROVE I. I WOULD APPROVE A PROPERLY PLACED POST LINE, BUT NOT ONE ON THE BUILDING. THAT ONE BECAUSE I DON'T WANT IT ON THE LEFT. BECAUSE IT'S THERE FOREVER. SO I REALIZED LIKE YOU, CAPITAL FUNDING IS GOING THROUGH 2025. BUT IS IT STILL ON THE WISH LIST TO PUT AT THE ENTRANCE IN THE BACK? I CAN'T SPEAK TO ANY PROJECTS THAT, UM GO BEYOND THE 2025 THRESHOLD, SO POTENTIALLY, BUT I'M NOT INVOLVED IN THOSE DISCUSSIONS SO I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO OK, JUST IF I WILL SAY IF, UM IF THAT WAS A PROJECT THAT WAS COMPLETED WHEN WE DO RENOVATIONS TO BUILDING WE DO A HOLISTIC OVERLOOK, THOUGH, IF THERE WAS A DESIRE FOR THE SIGN TO BE REED OVER THE DOOR AT THAT TIME, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COULD BE PURSUED. THE GENEROUS STROLLER FAMILY FOUNDATION COULD PERHAPS ACCELERATE. I MEAN THAT STATE YOU REMEMBER WHEN THEY WERE DISCUSSING THAT ENTRANCE IN THE BACK? YES, THAT WAS SEVERAL YEARS AGO. SO MAYBE IT JUST WASN'T FEASIBLE OR DIDN'T MAKE SENSE FOR THE ACTUAL INTERIOR OF THE LIBRARY. I DON'T I DON'T KNOW. YEAH I KNOW THE CITY AND THE LIBRARY HAD DISCUSSIONS AT THE POSSIBILITY OF TIMING THE ROSE RUN PARK CONSTRUCTION ALONG WITH THE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE LIBRARY. I THINK FOR FUNDING REASONS. YEAH, AS MENTIONED IT.
IT WAS PUT ON HOLD I. I PERSONALLY HAVEN'T HEARD ANY UPDATES EITHER, BUT I KNOW IT'S SOMETHING AS FAR AS THE CITY IS CONCERNED THAT WE WOULD STILL BE INTERESTED AGAIN, PARTNERING WITH THE LIBRARY TO EXPAND THAT OUTDOOR SPACE AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE, YOU KNOW, SHOULD IT BECOME A POSSIBILITY FOR THE LIBRARY AS WELL? NOW RELOCATING THE SIGN LIKE THIS. SUPPOSE WE DO DECIDE TO MOVE THE SIDE FIVE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, YOU'D HAVE MASONRY REPAIRS. IT'S NOT A PARTICULARLY DIFFICULT THING TO DO. NO THE SAME REMOVAL IS NOT A BIG DEAL. BUT THE REPAIRS TO THE
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MASONRY AND NUMBER OF PENETRATIONS IN THE BRICK VENEER . CORRECT PENETRATIONS WITH THE SANDALS FROM THE LETTERS ACTUALLY, LIKE YOU MENTIONED THE MASON MARRIED WOULD NEED REPAIR BUT AS FAR AS REMOVING THE LETTERS THEMSELVES, SO HOW MANY PENETRATION DO YOU THINK WOULD BE IN THAT VENEER THAT SIGN. WE TRY TO MAKE THIS MINIMAL AS POSSIBLE, SO PROBABLY BECAUSE IT LOOKED LIKE INDIVIDUAL LETTERS. IT'S NOT IN A RACE WAY, RIGHT? CORRECT YEAH, YEAH, THEY'RE INDIVIDUAL LETTERS STUD MOUNTED ON THE BACK LIKE YOU MENTIONED. UH, I'D SAY PRO, PROBABLY CLOSE TO 25 TO 30. OK? YEAH, QUITE A FEW HOLES IN THERE. BUT ONCE WE ONCE WE APPROVE THE SIGN THERE, IT'S APPROVED THERE FOREVER CORRECT. CORRECT. UH, YES. IN ORDER TO RELOCATE IT, THE APPLICANT HAD TO COME BACK TO THE ARCHITECTURE REVIEW BOARD. NOTHING. WE CAN CONDITION. IT'S THERE. WE APPROVED IT. UM I THINK YOU YOU COULD CONDITION IT. YEAH, ITS APPROVAL IS PART OF THAT. HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF. I'VE HEARD MANY CONVERSATIONS OFF THE RECORD OF A LOT OF OPPORNITIESTU IN L OFAL FOR REA.IS OF THPARKINE AREA.G TUREFUEVELOP DNTME FROM A MARKGRK DECK TTHE FAO ER'SRM HAVEO NYMATHER O TNGSHIHAT T T CN'EOM FORET. I' Y MRIOUSCUF ANYT ING'S CHIE . SFF ANDTA UNOFF AIALIC NNER.MA TT WE SHAULD COHOIDERNS GIN YOUVENOW? K AEAUTIF BUL BUDINGIL TT'SHA BEEN SIGNEDDE ARND FOUOU SRED ARCIDTECTURHI E.THINKI IT'S A PERNALLYSO MIAKESTO T SNIG LIKE ATTH I'L LNTERCEIVEN F GURE DEUTLOPMENVE TATTH COU BE INLDHAT. T SE THINK IT JUST IT'S I T HEAD OF HEETH TE.RU THINGOTHERS THGS THAINT IE HEAR'VD. MY AM I ? S THERHABEENE ONS ABSIT FARMOUS, AS THINGNDLIKE TS T,HA THEUH,AN ITHE PN KING LAR ANDOT MANYOH, YH,EA TRE'S BHENEE ISCUSS DNSIO. WE UH, CISHR AT OE ISTJU ACTUAYLL LOOKING URILLAGE V CENRTE PNLA THAT DAS BACTEKO 2005 T. SO UH, TREHE THEYB THEREAVE HEEN B AND E S'RLLTI CONNUE TTIBE AO TLO OF COEPTUALNCHIGH L, ELEV PLNINGAN SO NOTNGHI IOULD W SAY AS FARS DEVE APMENTLO GSOE ,T CERTBUNLYAI YOU KW, THENO DICTIONRE THAMARKETT QUARE S A NDE RESTTHF O T VILLAHE CENTEGE RATTH H BEENASUTLINE O REALLDY, HE LAT TE 19INETIE NS, SO TO DS THRTAINLCEYP O OPPORNITYTU WITHTIONADDDEVELOL ENTSPM THEIN MARKET. SAREQU AREA ANTHE PAD INGRK LOT AS A OLEWH.EVENHE UND TGROUNDER STOGERA STORO TUHRE'S UHEERGROUNDND WATR EAG THAT HASEEN PU BOSELYRP LOTEDCA TAO IDE SO ALLO TWOR ITELOP DNTMEF I ANDHEN W SHOD, YOUUL KNOW,CCUR O A THERPOISO INNT THE FUTUR, SOE SE' NO TELINESIM ASSOCTEDIA OUR ANY OTHATF BUT CE. AINLYRT NGLOANGE R PLANONTEMP CTESLA AL DONELOPMEEVNTITHIN W ETH MKETARQUARE S AARE, ONE OFE THINTHGS TT WE'RHASTILLE WOINGRK ON AS STAFF A AFAR ASS PAINGRK DEKILLS SS, UM IA THATEREN PKING SARDYTU. SO 'S SOMETNGHI THAT WE HOPE T ONISHFIY B THEND OF EHIS YE T.
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