SOUND. MAYOR, WHENEVER YOU'RE READY. ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, AND
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WELCOME TO THE NEW ALBANY CITY COUNCIL MEETING FOR TUESDAY, JULY 16TH. AS TRADITION IS, I WOULD INVITE EVERYONE TO PLEASE STAND WITH COUNCIL AND RECITE OUR NATIONAL PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.CLERK. MASON. THE ROLL, PLEASE. AND IF COUNCIL WILL TURN ON THEIR MICROPHONES. MAYOR SPALDING, HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER. BRISK HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER. DEREK HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER.
FELLOWS HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER. CHRIS. HERE COUNCIL MEMBER. SHULL HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER.
WILTROUT HERE. I HAVE SEVEN PRESENT FOR THE JULY 16TH, 2024 REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING. ALL
[4. ACTION ON MINUTES]
RIGHT, ACTION ON THE MINUTES PRIOR TO TONIGHT'S MEETING, A COPY OF THE PROPOSED MINUTES FROM OUR JULY 2ND MEETING WERE DISTRIBUTED TO COUNCIL MEMBERS. ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS TO THE PROPOSED MINUTES? I HAVE RECEIVED NO NOTES. ALL RIGHT. THERE'S NO[5. ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS TO THE AGENDA]
ADDITIONAL COMMENT. I WOULD MOVE FOR THEIR ADOPTION BY CONSENSUS. ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS TO THE AGENDA. I KNOW WE HAVE ONE REQUEST TO INCLUDE UNDER EXECUTIVE SESSION, A REQUEST TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION TO TALK ABOUT, A DISCUSSION REGARDING APPOINTMENT OR EMPLOYMENT DISMISSAL, PROMOTION, DEMOTION OR COMPENSATION OF PUBLIC OFFICIAL. IS THERE ANY OTHER SUGGESTED EDITS OR CORRECTIONS? I ALSO HAVE A REQUEST TO ADD AN ITEM UNDER OTHER BUSINESS FOR SOME CODE HOUSEKEEPING UPDATES. SO IF YOU'LL ADD CODE UPDATES UNDER OTHER BUSINESS IS WHAT I'M REQUESTING FROM COUNCIL AND WE CAN VOTE ON THOSE SEPARATELY IF YOU LIKE OR TOGETHER. ALL RIGHT THEN I WOULD MOVE THAT WE AMEND TONIGHT'S AGENDA TO INCLUDE, EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO OHIO REVISED CODE ONE 2120 2G1 FOR DISCUSSION REGARDING APPOINTMENT AND EMPLOYMENT, DISMISSAL, DISCIPLINE, PROMOTION, DEMOTION OR COMPENSATION OF A PUBLIC OFFICIAL, AND ALSO TO INCLUDE UNDER OTHER BUSINESS CODE UPDATES AS REQUESTED BY THE CLERK. SECOND AND MAYOR SPALDING. YES COUNCIL MEMBER.SHAW. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER WILTROUT. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. KISS. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER.
FELLOWS. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. DIRK. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. CHRISTIE. YES. SEVEN YES. VOTES TO AMEND THE AGENDA TO ADD THE EXECUTIVE SESSION AND THE MATTER UNDER OTHER BUSINESS. HEARING A VISITORS. IS THERE ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS COUNCIL REGARDING A MATTER THAT IS NOT ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA? ALL RIGHT. HEARING NO PUBLIC COMMENT, WE'LL MOVE TO
[7. BOARD/COMMISSION REPORTS]
BOARD AND COMMISSION REPORTS. ANY UPDATE FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION? YES. WE HAD A LENGTHY MEETING LAST NIGHT. THEY PROMISED ME IT WAS THE LAST ONE, BUT THERE WAS A REQUEST TO TABLE THE LYNX DRIVING RANGE AGAIN, THE BOARD, THE PLANNING COMMISSION MADE IT CLEAR THAT THAT WOULD BE THE LAST TIME, THAT THAT WAS, TABLED, THAT THEY WOULD, DISMISS THE CASE IF THE APPLICANT WAS NOT PREPARED TO PROCEED, THEY WANTED TO COLLECT DATA TO PRESENT TO THE BOARD, IS WHAT THE REASON WAS. PERSONNEL WAS, WE HAD, RECONSIDERATION OF A FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THE 4093 REYNOLDSBURG PROPERTY, WHICH IS THE A CONCEPT OF A HOME THAT IS A ACTUALLY A TEN CAR GARAGE, THE THIS WAS A SUBJECT OF A MAY MEETING AND IT WAS VOTED DOWN. BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT THE PROPERTY FACED THE STREET AND JUST HOW IT FIT IN WITH THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AROUND IT. IT WAS A REQUEST FOR CONSIDERATION. SO THERE WAS A VERY RIVETING LEGAL DISCUSSION OF WHAT WAS THE PROPER PROCEDURE WHEN THERE WAS A, COMPLETELY NEW APPLICATION, THEY REDESIGNED THE PROJECT TO, BE MUCH, TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS STATED IN THAT MEETING, ULTIMATELY, THE PANEL DECIDED, 3 TO 2 TO DENY THE REQUEST FOR RECONSIDERATION AND HAVE THE APPLICANT SUBMIT A BRAND NEW APPLICATION. THERE WAS A, CASE CONCERNING 7800 WALTON PARKWAY TO ALLOW, CLEAN AND NON-HAZARDOUS MANUFACTURING USES THAT WAS APPROVED, AND WE SPENT, THE NEXT CASE WAS GANTT, THE GANTT PARKWAY PROPERTY, WHICH IS 108 ACRES WITH THREE SUB ACRES, THREE SUB ACRES, THE EXISTING ZONING, INCLUDES THE RIGHT TO DEVELOP 294 SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED RESIDENTIAL UNITS IN A SMALL AMOUNT OF COMMERCIAL USES AND COMMUNITY FACILITY USES, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO REZONE THE PROPERTY TO SPLIT IT INTO THREE SUB AREAS, ONE BEING[00:05:05]
MEDICAL USES AND ONE BEING, RESIDENTIAL AND ONE BEING OFFICE SPACE, THE RESIDENTIAL UNITS WOULD HAVE TO BE DEVELOPED WITH THE URBAN CENTER CODE. THE VARIOUS BUILDING TYPOLOGIES WOULD BE A COTTAGE BUNGALOW HOUSE ATTACHED HOUSE, TWO FAMILY BUILDING, TOWNHOME, AND A MULTI UNIT HOUSE. THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID APPROVE THE PROJECT AND IT WILL COME BEFORE CITY COUNCIL NEXT. AND THEN FINALLY WE HAD A FINALLY THE LAST, THE LAST, APPLICATION WAS FOR A MCDONALD'S, A FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND VARIANCE AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF BEACH ROAD AND BEACH CROSSING, THEY, THE VARIANCE WAS NECESSARY TO GET RID OF THE REQUIREMENT TO HAVE ACTIVE AND OPERABLE DOORS ON THE, ELEVATION FACING THE ROAD, THEY FOUND THAT ALL THE SIGNS MET CODE, AND THEY APPROVED THE VARIANCE. AND THEN WE WERE ABLE TO GET A SNEAK PEEK OF THE, HAMILTON FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN. IT WAS A PREVIEW OF A OF THE INFORMAL REVIEW DUE TO THE APPLICANT, BEING UNABLE TO ATTEND THE MEETING DUE MEDICAL ISSUES. SO WE DISCUSSED THE, THE PLANS, FROM STAFF. MR. CHRISTIAN, PRESENTED THEM TO US, AND, WE TALKED ABOUT THE PROCESS. SO THEN THE NEXT STEP IS ON AUGUST FIFTH, IT WILL GO TO THE PARKS AND TRAIL ADVISORY BOARD IN AUGUST 5TH AS WELL. THERE'LL BE THE OFFICIAL INFORMAL PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING. AND THEN AFTER THAT, WE'LL GO TO THE FORMAL AARB MEETING AND THE FORMAL PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING THAT THEY BELIEVE WILL PROBABLY BE IN SEPTEMBER. OKAY.ANY QUESTIONS ON THE UPDATE? JUST JUST TO CLARIFY, IN THEORY, THAT'S A FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
SO THAT WILL NOT COME BEFORE COUNCIL ANYTIME IN THE FUTURE. CORRECT CAN WE GO BACK TO THE GANTT PARKWAY? SURE. DISCUSSION. HOW MANY UNITS FOR HOUSING WERE THERE? RESIDENTIAL HOUSING? 294.
AND THEY WERE SINGLE HOME DETACHED HOMES OR. THE ORIGINAL PLAN INCLUDES TWO 294 SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED RESIDENTIAL HOMES. I GUESS NOW I'M CONFUSED. YEAH. SO AGAIN, PARKWAY TODAY HAS ENTITLEMENTS FOR RESIDENTIAL 294 UNITS OKAY. AND SO THIS THIS APPLICATION WAS JUST AFFIRMING THAT OR. RIGHT. SO THAT APPLICATION THAT THAT WAS UNDER A ORIGINAL PLAN UNIT ABOUT LIKE I FORGET THE NAME OF IT, BUT ITS ORIGINAL PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT THAT WAS ESTABLISHED IN 1994 THAT DID NOT ALLOW FOR THE AMOUNT OF COMMERCIAL USES THAT THEY WANTED TO DO. SO BASICALLY WHAT THEY DID IS THEY ASKED FOR A REZONING UNDER A NEW PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT, AND THAT WOULD RETAIN THE NUMBER OF RESIDENTIAL UNITS THAT THEY THAT THEY ORIGINALLY HAD. SPEAKING OPENLY ON THERE. I MEAN, THAT THAT WE DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE GOING TO USE ALL OF THEM, AND IF ANYBODY IS, YOU KNOW, THINKING ABOUT SCHOOL IMPACT, WHAT'S NOTICEABLE IS THAT THEY, THEY WOULD NOT BE 294 SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED RESIDENTIAL UNITS, WHICH WOULD HAVE THE HIGHEST LOAD FACTOR AND IMPACT ON THE SCHOOLS. BUT THE NEW PLAN RETAINS THE AMOUNT OF RESIDENTIAL UNITS TO BE MADE, BUT IN A SMALLER AREA BECAUSE THE REST OF THE PROPERTY WILL BE USED FOR COMMERCIAL USES AND THEN PARKLAND, OKAY. RIGHT. SO THE ACTUAL ZONING ITSELF, IT'S KPD TO KPD BECAUSE OF THE SIZE OF THE ACREAGE AND, THE EXACT CONFIGURATION OF THE RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL HAS NOT BEEN DETERMINED YET. SO WHETHER THEY'RE ATTACHED OR DETACHED OR IN SOME SORT OF FORM, I THINK WILL COME LATER DOWN THE ROAD DURING THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN, THIS IS JUST TO REZONE FOR TO ADD THOSE ADDITIONAL USES, WHICH ARE THE MEDICAL OFFICE USES, AND THEN THE CIVIC PARK USES, IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE 294 UNITS IS AS COUNCILWOMAN ROCHELLE STATED, IS A MAXIMUM. AND IT'S THE CONSISTENT WITH WHAT IT'S ZONED NOW. SO IT'S ALREADY BEEN INCORPORATED INTO ALL OF THE, PLANNING AND PROJECTIONS THAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT HAS BEEN DOING RIGHT. JUST A QUESTION. WAS THERE ANY PROVISION IN TERMS OF THE PERCENTAGE OF COMMERCIAL MEDICAL THAT MAY BE IN, SINCE THEY'RE EXPANDING INTO THREE DIFFERENT USES? ARE THERE ANY LIMITATIONS OR REQUIREMENTS AS TO PERCENTAGE OF COMMERCIAL SO OR HOSPITAL OR MEDICAL? THERE WASN'T A PERCENTAGE, IT WAS IT'S SPLIT. THEY BASICALLY SPLIT THE PROPERTY UP INTO THREE ZONES. SO THE ONE ZONE WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO HAVE MEDICAL COMMERCIAL USES, AND THEN THE
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OTHER WOULD HAVE COMMERCIAL OFFICE USES. THE THREE THE ZONING IS SPECIFIC TO THE THREE AREAS YOU'RE STANDING UP. YOU KNOW MORE THAN YOU DO. NO MORE THAN ME. I'M A LITTLE BIT MORE.SO PLEASE SHED LIGHT, 108 ACRES, DIVIDED INTO THREE SUB AREAS. SUB AREA ONE IS 25 ACRES, IDENTIFIED FOR MEDICAL USES ON THE NORTH SIDE OF GANTON PARKWAY EXTENSION. SUBAREA TWO IS ROUGHLY 18 ACRES, THAT IS FOR, OFFICE AND MEDICAL TYPE USES. ALSO ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE PARKWAY EXTENSION, THE SOUTH SIDE OF CANTON PARKWAY EXTENSION IS ONE SUB AREA. I'M GOING TO SAY IT'S ROUGHLY 40 ACRES, THAT 60, 65 PLUS OR MINUS. 15 OF THOSE ACRES WOULD BE IDENTIFIED FOR PARKLAND DEVELOPMENT. THE SCHOOL DISTRICT HAS MADE A FORMAL REQUEST OF US TO DONATE 15 ACRES FOR PARK. THAT WOULD BE WITHIN SUB AREA THREE. THE BALANCE WOULD BE DEVELOPED RESIDENTIALLY. AS COUNCILMAN WILTROUT MENTIONED, 294 UNITS ARE WHAT ARE IN THE EXISTING ZONING ENTITLEMENTS TODAY ON 80 FOOT LOTS. THIS WOULD BE THE BALANCE OF THE ZONING, IF APPROVED, WOULD ALLOW 294 UNITS TO BE DEVELOPED UNDER THE URBAN CENTER CODE ATTACHED MOORE VILLAGE CENTER. LIKE THERE'S BEEN SIGNIFICANT DIALOG WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT OVER THE PAST SEVERAL MONTHS ABOUT THE LOAD IMPACT OF 294 UNITS ON 80 FOOT LOTS, SIMILAR TO WINDSOR, PART OF THEIR CONVERSATIONS WITH US AND REQUESTS OF US ARE TO DO SOMETHING THAT WOULD, HOPEFULLY YIELD A LOWER IMPACT TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. THAT'S WHY WE HAVE DONE THE URBAN CENTER CODE MODEL. THERE'S NO PLAN YET FOR THAT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE. IT'S HEADED IN A DIRECTION TO RESPOND POSITIVELY TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT REQUEST. TOM, DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE AVERAGE SELLING PRICE MIGHT BE FOR THOSE INDIVIDUAL UNITS? WHAT THE AVERAGE SELL PRICE? OH, GOD, NO, NOT THAT FAR ALONG. WE HAVEN'T DONE ANY PLANNING. I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHETHER. LOOK, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT HAS MADE A REQUEST FOR A DONATION OF 15 ACRES FOR BALLPARKS. WE HAVEN'T RESPONDED TO THAT REQUEST YET. SO, THERE HAS BEEN VERY SCHEMATIC BUBBLE DIAGRAMS TO LOOK AT IT. WE. WILL THIS BE A BULK LAND SALE? WILL WE DEVELOP IT AS INDIVIDUAL LOTS? WILL IT BE ATTACHED? WILL IT BE DETACHED? WILL IT BE SO? SALE PRICE? I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THE UNIT TYPE WILL BE YET, OTHER THAN COMMITMENTS FOR IT TO BE DEVELOPED, CONSISTENT WITH THE URBAN CENTER. AND THE REASON I ASK BECAUSE THERE'S ALWAYS I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT THAT PRICE IS TODAY FOR THE PRICE OF A HOME THAT WOULD PAY FOR THE KIDS THAT IT MAY GENERATE TO GO TO THE SCHOOL. SO I JUST WAS CURIOUS OF THAT WOULD BE A PRICE POINT YOU'RE GOING TO TARGET, WE WILL.
WHAT WE'VE BEEN ASKED TO DO IS TO RESPOND TO A REQUEST FROM THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, WHICH IS PLEASE DON'T DUPLICATE THE WINDSOR TYPE PRODUCT. BECAUSE OF THE LOAD ON THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. NOT FOR AN.
YOU SPEAK TO A REALTOR, THEY SAY BUILD MORE. YOU SPEAK TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND THEY SAY THAT THAT'S A HEAVY THAT IS A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. WE'VE SAID, OKAY, LET US TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. WE'LL ZONE ACCORDINGLY. OKAY. THANKS ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION? OKAY ANY UPDATE ON PARKS AND TRAILS? NO NOT ME AND THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD. YES. BIG MEETING. I'M GOING TO START IN BACKWARDS ORDER JUST BECAUSE WHILE IT'S FRESH, WE GOT ALSO THE PUD REZONING BEFORE PC, AS A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS.
AS I UNDERSTOOD IT, THIS IS THE 1998 CPWD THAT WAS CREATED ALREADY GAVE JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING IN HERE PERMITS TO BE THERE, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE SUB AREA WITH, HOSPITAL MEDICAL OFFICE USE. AND THAT'S THE CHANGE TO THIS CPWD. AND IT WAS APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY BY THE ARB, KNOWING THAT THEY WOULD SEE IT AGAIN IN LATER PHASES AS WELL. SO THAT'S THAT WAS THE LAST THING ON OUR AGENDA. THE FIRST THING ON OUR AGENDA WAS, THE LIBRARY SIGN THAT HAD BEEN
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TABLED, I THINK THREE TIMES BEFORE. THIS WAS, I THINK THE THIRD OR FOURTH TIME IT WAS BACK AND, THE LIBRARY, REPRESENTATIVES CAME WITH FOUR DIFFERENT OPTIONS FOR SIGNAGE TO BE PLACED ON THE BACK OF THE LIBRARY AND BASICALLY SAID TO THE ARB, WE DON'T CARE, JUST PICK ONE. AND THE ARB SAID, NONE UNANIMOUSLY AND QUITE SHARPLY. I MEAN, I THINK THEY WERE VERY, YOU KNOW, RESPECTFUL AND I THINK THEY HAD A GOOD, PRODUCTIVE DIALOG. BUT I THINK THEY MADE IT VERY CLEAR THAT THE REASON IT WASN'T GETTING THROUGH THE ARB WAS NOT THE SIGN ITSELF, BUT THE PLACEMENT OF THE SIGN THAT WE HAVE THIS VERY STRICT GEORGIAN ARCHITECTURE IN THE CENTER, WELL, ALL OVER THE CITY, BUT ESPECIALLY ESPECIALLY WHERE THE LIBRARY IS LOCATED, THEY FEEL IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO PRESERVE THAT WITH LITTLE TO NO EXCEPTION. AND A BIG PART OF GEORGIAN ARCHITECTURE IS SYMMETRY. AND THE BACK OF THE LIBRARY ONLY TO THE LEFT, HAVING A SIGN WAS COMPLETELY NOT WHAT THEY WANTED TO SEE IN TERMS OF SYMMETRY, ONE OF THE, THE BOARD MEMBERS ACTUALLY PUT UP SOME SLIDES AND SAID, WHAT IF WE DID THE SAME THING AND SHOWED VILLAGE HALL SIGN SHIFTED OVER A LITTLE TO THE LEFT AND A COUPLE OF OTHER PLACES AND SAID, YOU KNOW, IF WE STARTED TO MAKE THOSE EXCEPTIONS, WHAT DOES THAT DO TO THE CHARACTER OF THE ARCHITECTURE IN OUR IN OUR CITY CENTER? SO, THEY TOOK THAT MESSAGE BACK TO THE LIBRARY.LIBRARY SAID THEY COULD NOT CENTER IT BECAUSE THERE'S, I THINK, A 100 YEAR OLD TREE THAT BLOCKS THE VIEW OF IT RIGHT THERE, BUT ACTUALLY ARB SUGGESTED THAT THEY CONSIDER PLACING SIGNAGE ON THE CANOPY OVER THE DRIVE UP IN SUCH AN ANGLE THAT PEOPLE WOULD BE ABLE TO SEE IT BECAUSE THEY'RE ENTITLED TO THAT CANOPY AND THEY'RE ENTITLED TO HAVE SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, LIKE A SIGN ON THAT. SO THEY TOOK THAT BACK TO, TO REVISIT THE SUBJECT. SO JUST TO CLARIFY THE ELEVATION THAT THEY WANT TO PUT A SIGN ON, IS IT THE DRIVE THROUGH SIDE OR IS IT THE REAR FACING. NO, IT WAS THE REAR FACING, BUT THEY WERE SAYING THAT BECAUSE THE CANOPY COMES OUT THEY COULD DESIGN. AND THEY YOU KNOW, IT WAS VERY, VERY BOTTOM LEVEL, BUT IT WAS A DISCUSSION, YOU KNOW, OF AN ALTERNATIVE THAT THEY COULD DO. SO THE UNANIMOUS NO TO THE SIGN ON ONE SIDE OF THE BACK OF THE LIBRARY WAS THERE DISCUSSION ABOUT WHY THERE'S A NEED FOR A SIGN ON THE BACK OF THE LIBRARY, WELL, YEAH, THE ACTUALLY WELL, THE LIBRARY REPRESENTATIVES ACTUALLY SAID THAT, THE, THAT PAT LOZINSKI, WHO IS A RESIDENT HERE, HAD BROUGHT TO SOME OF THEIR LEADERSHIP THE FACT THAT RESIDENTS HAD SAID TO HIM THAT THEY THOUGHT THEY OUGHT TO BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY WHERE THE LIBRARY WAS FROM WHEN THEY'RE COMING AROUND THE BACK AND ROSE RUN BRIDGE AND ALL THAT. NOW, I MEAN, YOU HAVE TO THINK ABOUT WHEN THE LIBRARY WAS FIRST DEVELOPED, ALL THAT PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC WASN'T COMING ACROSS THE BRIDGE. AND, YOU KNOW, COMING FROM THAT DIRECTION. SO IT WAS A THOUGHT. AND, YOU KNOW, THAT PARTICULAR LOCATION DID NOT WORK. SO THE OTHER TOPIC WAS THE CHURCH OF THE RESURRECTION CAME BACK WITH THEIR CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS, ONCE AGAIN, I'LL JUST BRIEF REVIEW, THEY WERE AT THE LAST MEETING, WITH INTENTIONS TO ADD AN 18,000 SQUARE FOOT, ONE STORY PARISH COMMUNITY CENTER ATTACHED TO THEIR EXISTING CHURCH, A 29,200 SQUARE FOOT, TWO STORY PARISH LIFE CENTER AND AN 8200 SQUARE FOOT, ONE STORY WITH MEZZANINE MAINTENANCE, STORAGE BUILDING, THEY WANTED TO ADD 77, I BELIEVE IT IS MORE PARKING SPACES. YES. SO THAT THEY WOULD HAVE 545 TOTAL AND, CHANGE THE WAY THAT THE PARKING FLOWS BASED ON THE NEW BUILDINGS AND, CHANGE SOME OF THE LANDSCAPE ON THE SURROUNDING, THE PLAN IS HERE AND I'LL PASS IT AROUND. I WILL TELL YOU THAT THE FIRST TIME THROUGH ARB WAS VERY HAPPY WITH THE ARCHITECTURE AND THE PLACEMENT OF THE BUILDINGS THEY WERE FINE WITH, BUT THEY DIDN'T FEEL COMFORTABLE GIVING FINAL APPROVAL BECAUSE THEY HAD GREAT CONCERNS ABOUT HOW WAS THIS LOT ALL GOING TO LOOK FROM THE ROAD BEING AGAIN, IN SUCH AN IMPORTANT PLACEMENT WHERE THIS CHURCH IS IN THE CENTER OF OUR CITY. THEY WANTED TO UNDERSTAND MOUNDING AND LANDSCAPING, THAT IT WASN'T GOING TO BE A FEW NEW, NEWER TREES NEXT TO MUCH OLDER TREES. THEY REALLY WANTED MORE DETAIL ABOUT THAT. SO THEY CAME BACK WITH THE PLAN WITH A LOT MORE DETAIL ABOUT THAT, A COMMITMENT TO SURMOUNTING THAT.
THEY HAD BEEN REQUESTING, AND SOME MORE DETAIL ABOUT LANDSCAPING. ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS WAS THERE IS TALK ABOUT THEY HAVE A VISION OF A PHASE THREE. THEY WANT TO DO MORE.
THEY'RE NOT COMMITTED TO EXACTLY WHAT THAT MAY BE YET, BUT THEY HAVE A VISION. AND IT'S PART OF WHY THEY WANT TO LEAVE. SOME OF THE THINGS AS THEY ARE NOW, SO THAT IT DOESN'T END UP BEING DOUBLE WORK IF THEY GO THROUGH THE REST. SO THEY PUT THAT VISION, THAT PROPOSAL IN THE PLAN SO PEOPLE COULD KIND OF SEE HOW THAT WOULD ALL WORK, SO THE CURRENT WHAT THEY'RE CALLING
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PHASE TWO, THE VISION IS PHASE THREE. PHASE TWO HAS NOW BEEN APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY BY ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD, SUBJECT TO SOME, DETAILS THAT STAFF WILL HAVE TO APPROVE ALONG THE WAY. SO I HAVE THAT HERE. AND AGAIN, THE FINAL WAS, THE FINAL THING THAT WAS UP WAS THE CANTON KPD. SO THAT'S ALL FOR ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD. YEAH. PASS IT THAT WAY. ALL RIGHT. SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD. I'M SORRY I SKIPPED THE. ANY UPDATE FROM BCA? NO MEETING.AND SUSTAINABILITY. NO MEETING IDEA IMPLEMENTATION PANEL. WE HAD NO MEETING, BUT WE HAD A GREAT KICKOFF DURING THE, COMMUNITY CONCERT. THE EAGLES, STARTING, THE COMMUNITY CONNECTORS PROGRAM, YOU MIGHT HAVE HAD A CUTE, REDHEADED CHILD PASSING THESE OUT TO YOU, SHE, THIS IS, OUR LATEST PROGRAM, WHICH I TALKED ABOUT LAST MEETING, WHICH, IS, ENCOURAGING RESIDENTS FROM THE VARIOUS NEIGHBORHOODS HERE IN THE COMMUNITY TO, TAKE ON A ROLE AS A COMMUNITY CONNECTOR, THE ASKS ARE TO MAKE NEW RESIDENTS FEEL WELCOME AND TO CONNECT THEM TO RESOURCES, FACILITATE OPPORTUNITIES FOR NEW AND EXISTING RESIDENTS TO GET TO KNOW THEIR NEIGHBORS, AND TO PROVIDE A FLOW OF INFORMATION BETWEEN RESIDENTS AND THE CITY.
I HAVE THIS HERE IF ANYBODY WANTS TO SEE IT. WE, HOPE TO HAVE ANOTHER MEETING, SOON. ONCE THE ORDINANCE THAT'S ON THE, DOCKET TODAY, IS PASSED. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS ON THE UPDATE? CEMETERY RESTORATION BOARD. NO MEETING AND NO MEETING. THE PUBLIC RECORDS COMMISSION, HAS ANY MEMBER OF COUNCIL RECEIVED ANY CORRESPONDENCE SINCE OUR LAST MEETING THAT I'D LIKE TO
[9. SECOND READING OF ORDINANCES AND PUBLIC HEARING]
PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON? THAT TAKES US TO SECOND READING OF ORDINANCES AND PUBLIC HEARING ORDINANCE. OH 23 2024 AN ORDINANCE TO CREATE CHAPTER 138 IDEA IMPLEMENTATION PANEL OF THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY WILL HOUSE CODIFIED ORDINANCES AS REQUESTED BY THE CITY. CLERK. MISS. YES.WE'VE ALREADY GOTTEN FIRST READING AND TALKED ABOUT THIS IN SOME DETAIL, BUT AS A REMINDER, THE IDEA IMPLEMENTATION PANEL MEMBERS TWO YEAR TERMS WERE UP IS AT THE END OF JUNE. COUNCIL MEMBER WILTROUT APPROACHED ME ABOUT TURNING THE PANEL INTO A TYPICAL CITY BOARD, I MODELED THE IDEA OF PANEL LEGISLATION AFTER THE 2021 SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD ORDINANCE, WHICH IS ZERO 19 2021. SINCE THE FIRST READING AND AFTER COUNCIL DISCUSSION, THE WORD POLICIES WAS REMOVED FROM SECTION 138 .02, BUT LEAVES PROGRAMS REMAINING. SECTION 138 .06 B, WHICH REFERENCED THE 2021 IDEA COMMITTEE REPORT, WAS REMOVED ENTIRELY. AND THEN ONE OTHER CHANGE WE MADE, SECTION 138 .04, WHICH DEALT WITH ABSENCES AMONG OTHER THINGS, WAS REWRITTEN TO JUST GENERALLY REFERENCE THE STANDARD BOARD AND COMMISSION RULES ON ABSENCES. THAT WAY, IF COUNCIL EVER CHANGED THAT POLICY CHANGE, THAT PARTICULAR PIECE OF CODE AS WELL. AND THOSE WERE THE THREE CHANGES. COUNCIL MEMBER, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD? YEP. SO, I JUST WANTED TO REMIND EVERYBODY AND TO THANK, WE HAVE TWO OF OUR WONDERFUL IDEA MEMBERS HERE, JOHNSON MARIE ALVARADO, YOU KNOW, THE THIS THIS THE BOARD WAS FIRST ESTABLISHED IN 2021 AS A ONE YEAR PILOT, IT GREW TO AN IMPLEMENTATION PANEL IN 2022. IN THE FIRST YEAR, WE PRESENTED THREE AMAZING COMMUNITY EVENTS. CELEBRATING JUNETEENTH TO WALLY AND HAVING A WONDERFUL FAMILY FUN DAY WITH BOUNCE HOUSES AT THE MIRACLE LEAGUE FIELD TO, HELP, WITH, ALL THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY TO FEEL WELCOME, SECOND YEAR WE'VE SO FAR HAD A, WOMEN'S, EVENT AND A JUNETEENTH CELEBRATION THAT WAS REMARKABLE. AND WE ARE, ALREADY, SETTING UP FOR DIWALI. I DON'T ACTUALLY THINK I MENTIONED THIS IN MY UPDATE, BUT WE JUST GOT $3,000 FROM THE COLUMBUS ARTS COUNCIL FOR THE FIREWORKS FOR THAT, THE IN THE SECOND YEAR, THESE PROGRAMS HAVE BECOME, MORE AND MORE, SUPPORTED BY CORPORATE SPONSORSHIP. THERE'S A GROWING, DESIRE AMONGST OUR BUSINESS PARTNERS TO, TO PARTICIPATE IN THESE EVENTS, WE DISCUSSED LAST MEETING, THE RESULTS OF THE SURVEY FROM MARTY SAPERSTEIN, WHICH SAID THAT, OVER ONE THIRD OF NEW ALBANY RESIDENTS ATTENDED ONE OF THESE PROGRAMS. THEY ENJOYED IT. IT'S HELPING CREATE A SENSE OF CONNECTIVITY IN THIS COMMUNITY. MAYA'S TONIGHT IS TO ALLOW THIS BOARD TO EXIST ON AN ONGOING BASIS. WE, I, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO WE MADE THE REQUESTED CHANGES THAT WE DISCUSSED AT LENGTH, AND I'VE MADE ADDITIONAL CHANGES AS REQUESTED EARLIER THIS WEEK FROM COUNCILWOMAN SHULL, AND, I WOULD
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ALSO I WOULD OPEN UP THIS ANY DISCUSSION, THAT MIGHT HAVE ON THIS OTHERWISE. I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION, ON IT, AND I'M FINE WITH ALL THE CHANGES. IT LOOKS GREAT. THIS IS PROBABLY MORE FOR BEN. QUESTION. THE NON-LAWYER ON THE COUNCIL HERE, ON 138 .06. POWERS AND DUTIES. ON THE SECTION D WHERE IT SAYS UNDERTAKE SUCH OTHER ASSIGNMENTS OR STUDIES ON INCLUSION, DIVERSITY, EQUITY AND ACCESSIBILITY ISSUES AS MAY BE REQUESTED BY COUNCIL AND OR CITY MANAGERS. THE AS MAY BE THE SAME WAY AS SAYING AS REQUESTED BY. YES. OKAY, SO LITERALLY THEN THAT'S WHAT'S SAYING IS IF COUNCIL REQUESTS OR CITY MANAGER REQUESTS SOMETHING, THEN THAT'LL ALLOW THE COMMITTEE TO GO AHEAD AND FOLLOW UP ON THAT AND DO WHATEVER THAT REQUEST IS. THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT. OKAY, THEN I'M GOOD. THANKS. SO I AGREE WITH THE CHANGES. IT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE DISCUSSED. SO THANK YOU FOR MAKING THOSE CHANGES. THE ONLY OTHER THING THAT I HAD CONCERNS ABOUT, I'M NOT GOING TO MAKE THAT PROPOSE THAT WE CHANGE IT. BUT I DO HAVE A CONCERN AND WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SEEN AND I SHOULD HAVE BROUGHT THIS UP. THE LAST MEETING THAT, AND PREPARED FOR THAT. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT, SEE THE CHANGE IN THE WORD FROM EQUITY TO EQUALITY.AND SINCE, YOU KNOW, NOW'S NOT THE TIME TO DISCUSS IT. I SHOULD HAVE BROUGHT IT UP EARLIER. BUT FOR THE RECORD, I WOULD LIKE TO AT LEAST STATE THAT I THINK WOULD HAVE BEEN MORE APPROPRIATE FOR US TO HAVE IN THIS LANGUAGE. THE WORD EQUALITY IN REPLACE OF THE WORD EQUITY. BUT OTHER THAN THAT, I'M FINE WITH THIS PROPOSAL. AND APPRECIATING THAT THOSE TWO WORDS MEAN VERY DIFFERENT THINGS TO DIFFERENT PEOPLE. I MEAN, IS THERE ANY REASON WE COULDN'T INCLUDE THEM BOTH? I DON'T SEE ANY REASON WHY YOU GOING TO CHANGE IT TO THE ID E A PANEL. THE SECOND IS I. WE COULD CERTAINLY INCLUDE BOTH IN THE DESCRIPTION OF THE BOARD. YEAH. AND LEAVE THE NAME AS IS.
LEAVE THE NAME AS IS. YEAH. OKAY. IN THE TEXT. YEAH. OKAY. I FORGOT TO READ THIS PIECE OF PAPER THAT JENNIFER GAVE ME. DO YOU HAVE ANY. DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS? AM I UNDERSTANDING CORRECTLY THAT WE ARE GOI EXHIBIT A? IS THAT CORRECT? IN THE FORMAL DOCUMENT THAT'S UP TO COUNCIL BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE YET ANOTHER MOTION. THAT'S JUST A POINT OF ORDER. OKAY, IF WE'RE NOT, THEN WE JUST GO TO WHAT YOU'VE GOT AND I CAN MAKE THAT MOTION TO AMEND. WHERE WOULD YOU BE AMENDING IT TO, IT WOULD BE IN 138 .02. AND 138 .06. BE I BELIEVE, TO ADD THE WORD EQUALITY, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO WHERE, 138 02A AT THE LAST, IT'S THE LAST SENTENCE, LAST TWO WORDS, THIRD WORD EQUITY AND ACCESSIBILITY.
EQUALITY AND INCLUSION. DIVERSITY. EQUITY EQUALITY AND ACCESSIBILITY. AND THOSE TWO WORDS MEAN VASTLY DIFFERENT THINGS. AND YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF DEBATE ON ON BOTH OF THOSE HOW THOSE WORDS SHOULD BE USED. OKAY. THAT'S FINE WITH ME. AND THEN THE NEXT PLACE WOULD BE 138 .06 BE FOR EQUITY AGAIN, IS USED THAT WE COULD ADD THE WORD EQUALITY ALONG WITH EQUITY. I HAVEN'T I DON'T HAVE ANY OBJECTION TO HAVING BOTH WORDS. I HAVE NO OBJECTION TO HAVING BOTH WORDS. I WOULD LIKE THE TITLE TO REMAIN. YEAH. I DON'T YEAH, YEAH. I'M NOT SUGGESTING JUST IN THE BODY OF THE OTHERWISE OF THE TEXT. WE HAVE TO HAVE AN ASTERISK, YOU KNOW.
YEAH. RIGHT. CAN YOU JUST CLARIFY YOUR MOTION SO THE CLERK CAN CALL IT FOR A VOTE? YEAH, I WOULD LIKE I WOULD LIKE TO ADD, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADD THE WORD EQUITY IN THE TEXT AND THE EQUALITY QUALITY. EXCUSE ME. EQUALITY IN THE BODY OF THE TEXT, IN SECTIONS 3138 .02 AND ONE 138 .02 A AND 138 .06 B TO BE INCLUDED NEXT TO THE WORD EQUITY. IT SHOULD STATE EQUITY AND EQUALITY. YOUR SECOND. SECOND. TO COUNCIL MEMBER. FELLOWS. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER.
SHAW. YES COUNCIL MEMBER. CHRIS. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. WILTROUT YES. MAYOR. SPALDING. YES.
COUNCIL MEMBER. BRUCE YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. PERRY. YES SEVEN. YES. VOTES ON THE MOTION
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TO AMEND THE ORDINANCE SPECIFICALLY EXHIBIT A, AS INDICATED BY COUNCIL MEMBER FELLOWS. TWO AREAS TO ADD THE WORD EQUALITY NEXT TO EQUITY. MOTION PASSES. OKAY I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE TO TREAT ORDINANCE OH 23 2024 AS AN EMERGENCY FOR THE IMMEDIATE PRESERVATION OF THE PUBLIC WELFARE, AND SO THAT THE IDEA IMPLEMENTATION PANEL CAN CONTINUE WORKING ON THE IMMINENT AND UPCOMING IDEA PANEL ORGANIZED EVENTS, THE DECLARED EMERGENCY STATUS SHALL WAIVE THE 30 DAY WAITING PERIOD, MAKING THE ORDINANCE EFFECTIVE UPON PASSAGE TONIGHT. AND THEN, BEN, JUST FOR MEMORY, DO WE HAVE TO PASS A SEPARATE MOTION TO APPROVE IT AS AN EMERGENCY? YEAH, I THINK FOR THIS ONE. DO THE FIRST EMOTION, FIRST MOTION TO TREAT IT AS AN EMERGENCY AND THEN DO A SECOND MOTION TO PASS IT, BECAUSE THE WAY THE LEGISLATION IS WRITTEN DOESN'T HAVE ANY OF THE EMERGENCY LANGUAGE IN THERE. AS IT DOESN'T EXIST. THEN I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION, AND WE'RE DOING IT AS AN EMERGENCY. FOR WHY? BECAUSE THE PANEL, THE PANEL HAS SORT OF EXPIRED. RIGHT? OKAY. SO WE DON'T WANT TO WAIT TO REAFFIRM THEM. THE APPOINTMENTS DID I GET THAT RIGHT? YES. CORRECT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE DON'T WANT TO BE WORRIED. ALL RIGHT. SO WE'RE CLEAR THAT WE HAVE A FIRST AND A SECOND. THE EMERGENCY IS JUST TO TREAT IT AS AN EMERGENCY.CORRECT. SO, COUNCIL MEMBER WILTROUT. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. BRUCE. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER SHAW.
YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. KISS. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. FELLERS YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. DEREK. YES.
MAYOR. SPALDING YES. I HAVE SEVEN YES VOTES TO TREAT THE ORDINANCE AS AN EMERGENCY. A MOTION PASSES. ALL RIGHT, THEN, I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE WE CONSIDER ADOPTION OF THE AMENDED ORDINANCE. IS THERE ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK REGARDING ORDINANCE O 23, 2024, AS AMENDE, HEARING NO PUBLIC COMMENT. I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
IS THERE A MOTION ON THE AMENDED ORDINANCE? I MOVE THAT WE ADOPT ORDINANCE O 2320. SORRY, I CAN'T HAVE MY GLASSES, BUT YOU'RE YOU'RE ON THE RIGHT. PAGE 23 2020 OH 23 2024 SECOND COUNCIL MEMBER. FELLOWS. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. WALSH. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. KISS. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. SHAW. YES. MAYOR. SPALDING YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. BRUCE. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER.
DEREK YES. SEVEN. YES. VOTES TO ADOPT. ORDINANCE OH 23 OH 23 2024 AS AN EMERGENCY. MOTION PASSES. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. AND AGAIN, JUST A DEEP APPRECIATION FOR OUR IDEA PANEL MEMBERS WHO ATTENDED TONIGHT. AND, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE, TO MAKE THIS A SUCCESSFUL ENDEAVOR FOR NOT ONLY THE CITY, BUT FOR OUR COMMUNITY. SO THANK YOU VERY, VERY MUCH. THESE LADIES ARE JUST AN EXAMPLE OF A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE REALLY COME FORWARD TO DO WORK FOR THE CITY THAT WE HADN'T SEEN BEFORE THIS, AND IT'S WONDERFUL TO WORK WITH THEM. THANKS FOR ALL YOU'RE DOING. THAT'S MORE THAT'S MORE TO DO. SO LOOKING FORWARD TO IT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND KNOWING THAT WE SOMETIMES HAVE GUESTS THAT ARE HERE JUST FOR ONE ISSUE, IF YOU DECIDE TO LEAVE AND GO DO SOMETHING ELSE WITH WHAT IS LEFT OF A BEAUTIFUL NIGHT, NO OFFENSE TAKEN. YOU'RE WELCOME TO STAY WITH US ANYTIME YOU LIKE. YOU'RE FREE TO GO. CAN I GO WITH YOU? ALL RIGHT. GOODNIGHT, LADIES. INTRODUCTION AND FIRST READING OF ORDINANCES.
[11. RESOLUTIONS AND PUBLIC HEARING]
WE HAVE NONE ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA. RESOLUTIONS AND PUBLIC HEARING. RESOLUTION NUMBER 31, 2024, A RESOLUTION TO AUTHORIZE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO A CONTRACT WITH MIDSTATES RECREATION FOR THE PURCHASE OF PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT FOR THE WINDSOR PARK THROUGH A COOPERATIVE PURCHASING AGREEMENT AUTHORIZED AND CODIFIED ORDINANCE 123.121. BE I THINK IT'S THIS ONE. OH, THANK YOU, MAYOR. MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL, AS YOU ARE AWARE, THE CITY PLANS TO UPDATE THE WINDSOR PLAYGROUND THIS YEAR AND THE UPDATES ARE A RESULT OF RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CITY'S PARKS FRAMEWORK PLAN, THE PICTURE ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE SCREEN IS THE EXISTING PLAYGROUND, AND THE OTHER IS THE PARKS FRAMEWORK PLAN. CITY STAFF CONDUCTED PUBLIC OUTREACH TO RESIDENTS TO GAIN FEEDBACK ON THE UPDATES AND THIS BEGAN BY MAILING POSTCARDS TO ALL 270 WINDSOR SUBDIVISION RESIDENTS, INVITING THEM TO COMPLETE THE WINDSOR PARK COMMUNITY SURVEY AND ATTEND THE WINDSOR PARK PUBLIC WORKSHOP. STAFF RECEIVED A TOTAL OF 209 SURVEY RESPONSES.THE PUBLIC WORKSHOP PROVIDED ATTENDEES AN OPPORTUNITY TO VIEW THE SURVEY RESULTS AND PROVIDE ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK, THE PICTURE ON, MY LEFT HAND SIDE OF THE SCREEN IS ONE STATION THAT ALLOWED RESIDENTS TO DESIGN THEIR IDEAL PLAYGROUND, AND THE OTHER PICTURE IS AN ACTIVITY AT
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ONE OF THE OTHER STATIONS THAT PROVIDED THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE, ON WHICH PLAYGROUND THEY THOUGHT WAS THE MOST ESTHETICALLY PLEASING TO THEM. TO GAIN AN UNDERSTANDING OF HOW MANY SCHOOL AGE CHILDREN, WOULD POSSIBLY BE SERVED WITH THE WINDSOR PLAYGROUND, CITY STAFF TOOK A LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF HOUSEHOLDS WITHIN A QUARTER MILE RADIUS OF THE WINDSOR PARK, AND COMPARED IT TO ALL OF THE OTHER PARKS THAT HAVE BEEN RECENTLY UPDATED. WE ALSO CALCULATED THE ESTIMATED NUMBER OF SCHOOL AGE CHILDREN BASED ON THE EXISTING DATA, AND THE WINDSOR PLAYGROUND HAS THE HIGHEST AMOUNT OF SCHOOL AGED CHILDREN LIVING WITHIN A QUARTER QUARTER MILE RADIUS, WHICH IS A FIVE MINUTE WALK. THE PROPOSED DESIGN ON THE SCREEN IS A DIRECT RESPONSE OF THE INPUT RECEIVED FROM THE WINDSOR RESIDENTS. THE CITY HAS OBTAINED COMPETITIVE PRICING FROM MIDSTATES RECREATION THROUGH THE SOURCEWELL CONTRACT FOR THE INSTALLATION OF THE PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT FOR A PRICE OF APPROXIMATELY $840,000. THE FUNDING FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE PLAYGROUND UPDATE WAS APPROVED IN THE 2024 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT BUDGET, IN THE AMOUNT OF $750,000, WHILE THE PROPOSED DESIGN EXCEEDS THE BUDGETED AMOUNT, THERE IS EXTRA CAPACITY IN OTHER CAPITAL LINE ITEMS TO ACCOUNT FOR THE INCREASED PRICE WITHOUT IMPACTING OTHER CAPITAL PROJECT. SHOULD THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVE THE RESOLUTION, CITY STAFF WILL CONTINUE OUTREACH WITH THE RESIDENTS OF WINDSOR AND THE CONSTRUCTION OR THE DECONSTRUCTION OF THE EXISTING PLAYGROUND COULD HAPPEN IN MID SEPTEMBER, WITH COMPLETION OF THE NEW PARK IN MID NOVEMBER, AND ADRIAN AND I ARE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS ON THE RESOLUTION? WELL I WANT TO THANK STAFF FOR THE OUTREACH. I KNOW IT'S NOT THE EASIEST THING TO ESPECIALLY FOR A PLAYGROUND A NEIGHBORHOOD PLAYGROUND TO DO AS MUCH OUTREACH AS YOU DID. I KNOW WE TOOK SOME HEAT FOR SOME OF THE OTHER ONES THAT WE ROLLED OUT, SO THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME. AND I THINK THE PRODUCT LOOKS AMAZING. I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A BIG PLUS FOR THE COMMUNITY. SO I JUST WANT TO APPRECIATE WHAT YOU GUYS DID TO GET IT RIGHT. JUST SORRY. I DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE WERE ANY YOUNG WINDSOR RESIDENTS WITH YOUNG FAMILIES THAT WANT TO SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THE DESIGN. ANYBODY, ANYBODY. SO JUST A QUICK QUESTION. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND. SO THE REASON ONE OF THE REASONS FOR THE INCREASE OVER BUDGET WAS MAYBE BECAUSE OF THE ADDITIONAL BAY SPOTS THAT WERE REQUESTED FOR THE SWING SET AREA, CORRECT? YES. SO THE TOP FIVE FROM THE SURVEY PLAY ELEMENTS WERE, SWING SLIDES, HIDE, CLIMB AND BALANCE AND SO SWINGS ALWAYS ARE REALLY POPULAR, BUT THEY TAKE UP A LOT OF AREA, BECAUSE OF THE FALL ZONE. AND THEN YOU NEED A LOT OF POURED IN PLACE SURFACE. SO TO ACCOMMODATE THIS HAS A FIVE BAY SWING SET. SO TWO OF THE BAYS WILL HAVE TWO STANDARD SWINGS.ONE BAY WILL HAVE TWO INFANT TODDLER SWINGS, ONE BAY WILL HAVE A BASKET, AND THEN THE OTHER BAY WILL HAVE A ADA ACCESSIBLE SWING AND A MOMMY AND ME SWING. SO WE'RE COVERING ALL OUR BASES WHEN IT COMES TO SWINGS, BUT IT DOES ADD TO THE COST BECAUSE YOU NEED MORE OF THAT POURED IN PLACE SURFACE UNDERNEATH THOSE SWINGS. AND WAS THAT A DISH? WAS THAT ORIGINALLY PROPOSED MAYBE INSIDE OF THE CIRCLE OR, AND ADDED BECAUSE IT GOT SO BIG, THAT'S CORRECT.
THAT'S RIGHT. AND JUST THE POPULARITY OF TRYING TO FIT ALL THOSE PLAY ELEMENTS IN PUTTING THOSE ON THE NORTH SIDE, LOOSENED UP TO LET US PUT MORE EQUIPMENT ON THE CURRENT FOOTPRINT. AND I AND I UNDERSTAND THE AVERAGE AMOUNT THAT WE USUALLY PAY IS ABOUT 620,000 PER PARK. SO THIS WOULD BE FOR SURE THE MOST EXPENSIVE ONE WE'VE BUILT TO DATE. IT WOULD. SO WHERE WE'VE USED EARTH SCAPES EQUIPMENT, THAT'S BEEN THE AVERAGE OF THOSE PLAYGROUNDS IS ABOUT $620,000. AND WHAT IS THE SURFACE? IS THIS AS SHOWN. ARE WE PUTTING ARTIFICIAL TURF IN. NO IT'S THE COLORS AREN'T CORRECT. IT WILL. IT'S THAT POURED IN PLACE RUBBERIZED SURFACE. AND WE'LL USE THE SAME COLOR WE'VE USED AT ALL THE OTHER PLAYGROUNDS. IS IT SIMILAR
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TO TAYLOR THAT SURFACE, TAYLOR IS A BONDED RUBBER, SO THAT LOOKS MORE NATURAL. BUT IF YOU WENT TO LAMBTON, BYINGTON, NORTH WOODS. YEAH, IT WOULD BE THAT SAME SURFACE IN THE SAME COLOR.OKAY. AND THEN FINAL. THEN I GUESS THE QUESTION, SINCE WE HAVE TO PULL FROM OTHER RESOURCES TO POTENTIALLY PAY FOR THIS, I'M ASSUMING FROM MY DISCUSSIONS THAT'S COMING FROM TAYLOR PARK PROBABLY. YEAH. SO THIS YEAR'S CAPITAL BUDGET COUNCIL IS VERY GENEROUS IN FUNDING $1 MILLION FOR A CONCEPT STUDY FOR PHASE THREE THAT THAT WE WON'T SPEND ALL OF THAT. SO THAT WAS IDENTIFIED AS A WAY TO, FUND THIS DESIRED DESIGN WITHOUT IMPACTING WHAT WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT WITH THE THIRD PHASE OF TAYLOR. OKAY. AND I GUESS BACK TO YOUR POINT, MATT, I, I THINK THAT OTHER BUDGETS WERE FOR POCKET PARKS. AND I THINK THIS IS KIND OF A MAYBE A DEGREE ABOVE A POCKET PARK JUST BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF HOUSEHOLDS THAT SURROUND IT AND THE SIZE OF THE WINDSOR NEIGHBORHOOD. AND THE DENSITY THERE. AND I KNOW THE NORTH OF WOODS, ONE WAS SKEWED WITH THE APARTMENTS AND EVERYTHING. AND KESWICK AND, BUT I MEAN, THIS ONE, I THINK WILL GET BY FAR THE MOST USE OF THE POCKET PARKS THAT WE'VE DONE SO FAR. THERE'S A. YEAH. AND THAT IS THE PROJECTION BASED ON SCHOOL AGE CHILDREN. IT'S NOT TODDLERS OR INFANTS OR OTHER CHILDREN THAT MIGHT LIVE THERE AND USE THIS PARK. MY KIDS ARE IN THAT PARK A LOT. YEAH. AND JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE FRIENDS THAT LIVE THERE, BUT THAT THAT IS A HOT SPOT WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND I THINK SPENDING MORE TO AFFECT MORE RESIDENCES IS A GOOD INVESTMENT.
AND THIS PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT IS VERY POPULAR, WITH, I THINK, THE SCHOOL AGE AND PRESCHOOL AGED CHILDREN. ONE IS THE CONSTRUCTION THAT WE STARTED. SO IF THIS IS APPROVED, WE'LL FINALIZE THE, PROPOSAL AND THE ORDER THIS WEEK. SLIDES TAKE THE LONGEST TO GET, THEY'RE THE LONGEST LEAD TIME. SO WE NEED TO GET THAT ORDER IN. NOW, WE WOULD START, DEMOLITION IN MID SEPTEMBER, FINISH CONSTRUCTION MID NOVEMBER IS THE PLAN. I ALSO THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE A VERY TIMELY PARK ADDITION BECAUSE AS WE LOOK AT THE GANTON PARKWAY DEVELOPMENT AND THERE'S THE POSSIBILITY AND LIKELIHOOD OF A LOT OF KIDS CROSSING THROUGH THAT AREA IN BETWEEN SCHOOL AND OTHER ACTIVITIES, AND I CAN SEE IT EASILY AS A LANDING GROUND FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT DON'T JUST LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS A PLACE TO STOP AND HAVE SOME RECREATION. SO I THINK IT'S GOING TO BENEFIT MORE THAN JUST THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO ADRIAN, YOU MENTIONED THE SLIDES. WHAT ARE THESE MADE OUT OF? THESE ARE METAL. SO THESE WHAT WE HAVE USED AT TAYLOR OKAY. AND I KNOW WE GOT SOME FEEDBACK THAT I THINK IT'S A RITE OF PASSAGE TO HAVE A METAL SLIDE THAT'S CHILDHOOD RIGHT THERE. BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T AGREE WITH THAT, ARE WE GOING TO NEED, YOU KNOW, ARE WE GOING TO GO BACK AND DO SHAKE SALES FOR THESE OR. I MEAN, WE CAN LOOK AT A PLASTIC AND I'M SURE WE COULD FIND A COLOR THAT WOULD BE SUBDUED ENOUGH TO MATCH, PLASTIC DOES GET HOT AS WELL. AND SO IT'S NOT IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE, THE SOLUTION THAT MAYBE INTUITIVELY COMES TO MIND, BUT THAT'S AN OPTION WE COULD LOOK AT IF THAT'S WHAT, WE WANTED TO GO IN THAT DIRECTION. SO THE MOST EGREGIOUS SLIDES OF TAYLOR FARM ARE THE BABY SLIDES, AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THE, THE WIDE ONES, THE WIDE ONES THAT THAT'S LIKE WHERE THEY'RE LIKE, SITTING DIRECTLY OUT AND A SOLAR PANEL, IT'S LIKE A SOLAR PANEL. WE COULD PROBABLY DO SOMETHING WITH IT. YEAH AND OF COURSE, THE KIDS AREN'T OLD ENOUGH TO REALLY UNDERSTAND HOT SLIDES AND ARE A LITTLE BIT MORE EMOTIONALLY REACTIVE. SO I THINK THIS PROBABLY THEY COULD JUST HANDLE IT. YOU KNOW, THEY GET THIS AT SCHOOL. I'M DOWN. YEAH. IS IT IS THE PLAYGROUND. DOES ANYBODY KNOW. IS THAT HOW IT IS AT THE SCHOOL. THEY JUST HAVE METAL SLIDES WITH NO SHADES OVER IT.
AND THERE'S NO SHADE. THEY JUST GET OVER IT LIKE WE DID WHEN WE WERE KIDS. DISRUPTION ALL RIGHT.
PROBABLY JUST LEAVE IT ALONE THEN. YEAH, I'M FINE WITH THE METAL SLIDE. I DON'T WANT TO COMMIT TO COMING BACK AND HAVING TO PUT A SHADE STRUCTURE OVER THE SLIDE. YEAH, YEAH, THAT WOULD BE HARD. THAT'S A TALL SLIDE TO DO THAT TOO. AND I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT REMEMBERING THIS IN MORE DETAIL, BUT, THERE WERE CERTAIN IF I'M GOING TO RECALL THIS DEED RESTRICTIONS WHERE CERTAIN RESERVE AREAS REVERTED BACK TO THE CITY AFTER A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME, AND WE TOOK RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS PARK EQUIPMENT WAS UP TO CODE AND SAFE FOR OUR RESIDENTS TO USE. THAT WAS ONE SET OF PLAYGROUNDS. THEN WE HAD ANOTHER ONE WHERE WE WORKED WITH
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THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION, SORT OF A 5050 SPLIT TO HELP CONSTRUCT REMIND ME ON WINDSOR OR WHERE THAT FILLS, YOU KNOW, SORT OF FITS INTO THAT GREAT QUESTION. SO WINDSOR IS THE LAST ONE THAT IS SET TO TRANSFER TO THE CITY AND THAT TRANSFER, FIRS IN NOVEMBER OF THIS YEAR. AND SO THAT IS THE LAST ONE THAT THE CITY HAS CURRENT OBLIGATIONS IN THAT 20 YEAR TIME PERIOD TO TAKE OWNERSHIP AND MAINTENANCE RESPONSIBILITIES. THE PRACTICE MORE RECENTLY, AND I WOULD SAY AT LEAST 12 YEARS, HAS BEEN THAT THE HOA, THE CITY WOULD OWN THE LAND, BUT THE HOA WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTENANCE AND, FOREVER. OKAY. AND DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER OF THOSE PARKS THAT AT SOME POINT THERE WILL REVERT TO THE CITY? WE DON'T HAVE ANY ABILITY. THE DATA WE'VE GONE THROUGH OVER AND OVER AGAIN, THIS IS THE LAST ONE THAT TRANSFERS. THERE ARE PLAYGROUNDS THAT. SO MILLBROOK FARMS, EBRINGTON. THERE'S A LITTLE PLAYGROUND OFF SCARLETT. SCAR.LORCAN, I THINK, THERE'S 4 OR 5 THAT ARE IN THE HOA CONTROL FOREVER THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY RESPONSIBILITIES FOR. OKAY IF FROM A POLICY STANDPOINT, SHOULD THAT CHANGE. BUT AT LEAST RIGHT NOW WE DON'T HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO TAKE THOSE OVER. OKAY. THANK YOU. I THINK THAT WAS THE LINKS WHERE WE SPLIT THE COST WITH THE HOA ON THE LAST GO ROUND. YES, THAT IS CORRECT. AND THAT WAS THE FIRST ONE YOU DID IN 2020. BUT THE LINKS ACTUALLY WAS INSTALLED BY THE CITY IN THE FIRST PLACE. IT WASN'T WAS NOT A DEVELOPER INSTALLED PLAYGROUND. YEAH HOW WAS THE FEEDBACK ON THE LINKS? ARE YOU GETTING ANY. IS THAT STILL GETTING ANY FEEDBACK? I THINK IT I, I MEAN I HAVEN'T, I HAVEN'T GOTTEN ANY NEGATIVE FEEDBACK. I THINK IT CONTINUES TO GET GOOD USE. IT IS I DRIVE BY IT ABOUT EVERY DAY. SO OKAY. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS ON THE RESOLUTION? THANK YOU CHELSEA FOR THE UPDATE, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK REGARDING RESOLUTION, 31 2024. HEARING NO PUBLIC COMMENT, WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I WOULD MOVE FOR THE ADOPTION OF RESOLUTION R 31, 2024 SECOND, MR. WINDSOR. I'LL GIVE IT TO MAYOR SPALDING. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER WILTROUT, YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. SHAW. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. KISS. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. FELLOWS. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. DETRICK. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. FRITZ YES. YES. VOTES TO ADOPT RESOLUTION R 31 2024. ANY
[13. REPORTS OF REPRESENTATIVES]
SUBCOMMITTEE REPORTS ALL RIGHT. THAT TAKES US TO REPORTS OF REPRESENTATIVES. JOE, ANY UPDATE FROM ARSON? NO MEETING. JOINT PARKS, JUST ONE WE'VE GOT, THIS WEEKEND WILL BE THE TOURNAMENT FOR PICKLEBALL. FOR THOSE THAT LIKE TO ATTEND AND KIND OF GET AN EYE OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.IT'LL BE SATURDAY MORNING, STARTING AT EIGHT, PROBABLY ENDING AROUND 430. AND SUNDAY FROM ABOUT 8 TO 12, 167 PLAYERS, ABOUT 4 TO 5 DIFFERENT STATES, THAT ARE COMING IN FOR THIS AND, SHOULD BE GOOD. JOINT PARKS DONE A GREAT JOB PUTTING IT ALL TOGETHER. PRIZES, GIVEAWAYS, A WHOLE BUNCH OF STUFF THAT THEY'VE GOT PLANNED FOR THIS. SO IT SHOULD BE A FUN WEEKEND. AND WEATHER LOOKS LIKE SO FAR IT SHOULD BE A NICE WEEKEND AS WELL. GREAT LOOKING FORWARD TO IT. AND AGAIN, HATS OFF TO STAFF FOR GETTING THE COURTS BACK UP TO SPEED VERY QUICKLY AFTER SOME SEVERE WEATHER. THAT'S MIKE'S TEAM DID A PHENOMENAL JOB GETTING ALL THAT PUT TOGETHER, AN ADDITION TO ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT THEY'RE DOING TO SUPPORT THE JOINT PARKS FROM PARKING AND SIGNAGE AND ELECTRIC THAT WE'VE GOT OUT THERE AND WI-FI THAT'S GOING TO BE OUT THERE. I MEAN, EVERYTHING SEEMS TO BE MOVING IN A REALLY GOOD DIRECTION. THE ONLY THING I WOULD ADD, MAYBE WE CAN MAYBE PUT IN OUR NEWSLETTER THIS WEEK OUT THERE, POSSIBLY. JOSH IS JUST TO REMIND EVERYONE THAT THOSE COURTS WILL BE CLOSED, THIS WEEKEND FOR THE TOURNAMENT, SATURDAY AND AT LEAST HALF A DAY ON SUNDAY. THAT MIGHT BE A NICE REMINDER FOR PEOPLE THAT AREN'T AWARE THAT THE TOURNAMENT'S GOING TO BE THERE. GOOD LUCK. YEAH, IT SHOULD BE GOOD. ALL RIGHT. ANY UPDATE FOR NEW ALBANY PLAIN LOCAL SCHOOLS? WELL, JUST GOING BACK TO FIGURE OUT, I MEAN, THE DAMAGE THAT WAS DONE UP THERE, WAS THAT JUST STRAIGHT LINE WINDS? YEAH, SURE. WIN, BECAUSE THAT WAS SIGNIFICANT LIKE A MICROBURST OR SOMETHING. IT WAS VERY UNUSUAL. YEAH. OKAY, YES, PLAN SCHOOLS HAD A SCHOOL BOARD MEETING ON JULY 8TH, IT WAS MOST OF IT WAS JUST FOCUSED AROUND THE FACILITY. PLAN UPDATE, THE ONE MAJOR UPDATE IS, THEY'RE REVIEWING THE NEW BUILDING THAT'S GOING TO BE, NEXT TO THE PRIMARY BUILDING. CHANGING THE EXTERIOR ELEVATIONS FROM BRICK TO POTENTIALLY, LIKE A BOARD AND BATTEN, MORE IN LINE WITH THE, WEXNER PAVILION AND
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THE SWIMMING POOL, THEY ESTIMATED THAT COULD BE A SAVINGS OF AROUND $1 MILLION TO NOT DO THE BRICK, SO THEY ARE, GOING DOWN THAT ROAD? I THINK THEY'VE TENTATIVELY REACHED OUT TO DCA OR ZONE RB. RB YES. SORRY TO, GET SOME FEEDBACK AS TO WHETHER THAT WOULD BE AN OPTION, AND THEN THEY PRESENTED TWO OPTIONS, AND ACTUALLY PASSED RESOLUTIONS FOR BOTH FOR THE POTENTIAL, BOND ISSUE IN NOVEMBER. OPTION ONE IS TO DO WORK ON ALL THE SCHOOL AND A COUPLE PHASES, AND IT WOULD REQUIRE A NEW 0.55 MILL TAX LEV, 90 MILLION IN PHASE ONE, 50 MILLION IN PHASE TWO, WITH A NOT TO EXCEED OF 150 MILLION, THAT WAS PHASE ONE OR OPTION ONE, THAT THEY WERE PROPOSED. SO IT WOULD HAVE A NEW 0.55 MILL OPTION TWO, WOULD, TO DO SOME, THE SAME SCOPE OF WORK, IT WOULD BE PHASED, BUT THEY WOULD COMBINE SOME PARTNERS AND GET THAT NUMBER DOWN TO 135 MILLION. AND THAT WOULD ESSENTIALLY MEAN IT WOULD BE NO NEW TAXES FOR, NEW ALBANY RESIDENTS. SCHOOL DISTRICT RESIDENTS, AS THEY HAVE MILLS ROLLING OFF AND, BUT AGAI, SO IT'S 135 MILL MILLION DOLLARS, BUT THEY WOULD NEED PARTNERS, AND THEY WERE LOOKING AT THE CITY AND OTHER PARTNERS, NEW ALBANY COMPANY AND OTHER, FOLKS IN TOWN, TO GET THEM. SO IT WOULD ESSENTIALLY BE A NO NEW TAXES FOR THE RESIDENTS. SO THEY PASS RESOLUTIONS APPROVING BOTH.AND THEN THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DECIDE HERE PRETTY SOON WHICH, WHICH OPTION THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE, JUST TO KIND OF LEVEL SET, THERE'S 5100 STUDENTS IN THE DISTRICT CURRENTLY. IF ALL THESE IMPROVEMENTS WERE DONE, IT REQUIRES A NEW BUILDING AND ADDITION, SOME NEW, FACILITIES OVER AT THE HIGH SCHOOL, AS WELL AS SOME ATHLETIC, IMPROVEMENTS, IT WOULD TAKE THE CAPACITY UP TO AROUND 7500 STUDENTS. SO GIVEN, KIND OF THE WORST CASE SCENARIOS THAT WE'VE GONE THROUGH, TO DATE WITH THE DISTRICT AND, THE INFORMATION THE CITY IN NEW ALBANY COMPANY HAS PROVIDED, THAT IS AT LEAST A TEN YEAR TAKES US OUT ABOUT TEN YEARS, WHERE WE WOULD STILL HAVE PLENTY OF CAPACITY IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. SO THESE WOULD ALL BE, YOU KNOW, AND AS A REMINDER, AS THE SCHOOL DISTRICT SITS TODAY, THEY ARE PRETTY MUCH AT THE CAPACITY THAT THE SCHOOL IS BUILT TO, SO WHETHER WE DIDN'T BUILD A SINGLE NEW RESIDENCE IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, WE'RE STILL ALREADY AT CAPACITY. SO THIS, WOULD BE A GREAT ADDITION TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. AND IT'S NOT JUST MORE CLASSROOMS. IT'S, YOU KNOW, THE SCIENCE CENTER, STEM CENTER, LIKE, IT'S REALLY COOL ADDITIONS THAT TAKE THE DISTRICT TO THE NEXT LEVEL AND KEEP US TOP OF CLASS, LIKE, WE'VE ALL BECOME ACCUSTOMED TO, LIVING HERE IN NEW ALBANY, SO AGAIN, WORKING WITH NEW ALBANY COMPANY AND THE CITY, THEY DISCUSSED, SOME PROPERTY, THAT I THINK TOM ALLUDED TO EARLIER TONIGHT, NOT JUST FOR, THE BASEBALL FIELDS AND SOFTBALL FIELDS, BUT ALSO, POTENTIALLY FOR A NEW BUS GARAGE AND POTENTIALLY PARTNERING WITH PLAIN LOCAL, FOR AN ADDITIONAL SUBSTATION FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. SO THOSE ARE ALL AND I THINK THEY DID MAKE A FORMAL REQUEST IN THE SCHOOL BOARD MEETING FOR BOTH OF THOSE, FROM NEW ALBANY COMPANY. SO AGAIN, THEY PASSED RESOLUTIONS ON ALL OF THOSE, AND THEN, JUST IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS, THEY'RE GOING TO DECIDE WHICH OPTION THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE. SO THAT WAS ALL FROM SCHOOL BOARD. ALL RIGHT, MR. DIRK, ANY UPDATE FROM THE TOWNSHIP, VERY ACTIVE MEETING LAST WEEK REGARDING THE A LEVY FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT OPERATING LEVY OR OPERATING LEVY AND A LEVY WITH SUFFICIENT CAPITAL TO BUILD AN AUXILIARY STATION. LOTS OF, DISCUSSION BACK AND FORTH. ULTIMATELY, THEY APPROVED A RESOLUTION RESOLUTION OF NECESSITY FOR REPLACING THE 1983 LEVY, NECESSITY FOR A NEW 3.0 MILL LEVY AND A POTENTIALLY A 2.25 MILL LEVY THAT GIVES THEM OPTIONS TO CONSIDER, THEY ALSO ASKED FOR A NEW RESOLUTION OF NECESSITY TO REDUCE THE 1983 LEVY. THEY'RE HAVING A SPECIAL MEETING AS WE SPEAK RIGHT NOW TO DISCUSS THAT PARTICULAR OPTION.
AND BY ROUGHLY THIS TIME NEXT WEEK, THEY HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION AS TO WHICH WHICH DIRECTION THEY WILL TAKE WITH RESPECT TO A LEVY. SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. CARRIE
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MILLER SHARED SHARED, I THINK EVERYBODY SAW THAT THE CITY OF COLUMBUS HAS DELAYED FOR AN UNANNOUNCED TIME THE BUILDING OF THE FIRE STATION NUMBER 36 UP HERE ON CENTRAL COLLEGE. THEIR INITIAL COST CAME IN AT $21 MILLION, AND THEY'RE ASKED TO GET IT DOWN TO $15 MILLION. SO BASICALLY, ALTHOUGH THAT WAS APPROVED THREE YEARS AGO, THERE'S NO ACTION AND NO TIMELINE ON ACTION TO BUILD. SO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT'S ONGOING COORDINATION AND COOPERATION WITH COLUMBUS AND US RESPONDING TO A LOT OF CALLS WILL UNDOUBTEDLY CONTINUE FOR QUITE A WHILE. THE FIRE DEPARTMENT DID HAVE A FIRE BURN LAST WEEK AND ANOTHER ONE THIS WEEK. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU DID THAT TODAY OR TODAY TODAY. SO THEY HAD ONE LAST WEEK, AND IT WAS TERRIFIC.I WOULD, REALLY COMPLIMENT JOSH AND SAM'S TEAM ON WHAT THEY DID. SAM WAS ACTUALLY IN THE FIRE FILMING, DRESSED UP, IN THE UNIFORM. SPEAKING OF WHICH, I HAVEN'T SEEN HIM SINCE. CAN WE SEE THE VIDEO LIKE IT WAS I? WELL, AND JUST RELEASED THE VIDEO. THAT VIDEO IN THAT. AND THEY DID A GREAT JOB. AND, I WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, I, I'VE NEVER EXPERIENCED ANYTHING AS INTENSE AS THAT WHEN YOU'RE IN THERE WITH THE HEAT. YEAH. THE SMOKE YOU GO IN. OH YEAH. I WAS IN THE FIRST ROOM WHEN WE WERE DOING IT. AND THE HEAT, THE INTENSITY. THE SMOKE, THE LACK OF VISIBILITY. IT IS. YOU CAN WATCH TV AND WATCH FIRE MOVIES ALL YOU WANT UNTIL YOU STEP IN THAT FIRE. IT'S LIKE GOING TO WAR UNTIL YOU STEP IN FRONT OF IT. YEAH. YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW SERIOUS IT IS. THEY CAN ONLY SPEND 20 MINUTES AT A TIME INSIDE THE FIRE UNTIL THEIR AIR RUNS OUT. AND THEY HAVE 2 TO 3 CREWS THAT RESPOND SO THEY CAN ROTATE, FIRE CREWS IN, LEARNED A LOT THAT I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT WHAT THEY DO AND HOW THEY OPERATE. AND, GIVE ALL THE CREDIT IN THE WORLD. I RESPECTED HIM BEFORE, BUT EVEN MORE SO NO. I THINK THEY BURNED THREE HOUSES SO FAR OVER THERE. SO TWO FOR SURE. I DON'T KNOW IF THE THIRD ONE, I THINK THE THIRD ONE'S COMING UP NEXT WEEK. IT'S THREE. THREE. THEY TORE ONE DOWN. YEAH ON FIRE TODAY. AT LEAST TWO OF THEM. I THINK THEY'RE ON ANOTHER BURN TOMORROW. YEAH, YEAH. I KNEW THERE WERE THREE BURNS.
THEY WERE PLANNING. SO, AND AGAIN, GREAT JOB WITH THE VIDEO SHOWING THE COMMUNITY WHAT THEY DO. A VERY CHALLENGING JOB, FOR SURE. THAT'S JUST ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF THE CITY SUPPORTING THE JOINT PARKS AND OF COURSE, THE, YOU KNOW, JOSH AND THE TEAM AND HOW THEY DO THAT. I THINK THAT REALLY, REALLY GIVES EVERYONE A GOOD PERSPECTIVE. TO MIKE'S POINT, AT LEAST SEEING IT THROUGH A VIDEO TOO, AS WELL. AND THAT'S JUST GREAT ON YOUR PART TO SUPPORT THE JOINT PARKS LIKE THAT OR JOINT PARKS. BLAINE TOWNSHIP. SORRY. YEAH. SO WE ALSO SUPPORT THE JOINT PARKS, BUT. ALL RIGHT, THANKS FOR THE UPDATE, REPORT TO CITY OFFICIAL, AGAIN, THANK EVERYONE FOR
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PARTICIPATING IN THE 4TH OF JULY PARADE. I THOUGHT IT WAS, A GREAT EVENT, AS ALWAYS, HATS OFF TO THE COMMUNITY EVENTS BOARD AND THE CHAMBER FOR ALL THE HARD WORK THAT THEY DID, EVEN THE ANNOUNCERS, THIS YEAR WERE WERE TOP NOTCH, TOP NOTCH. I DIDN'T HEAR ANYTHING, BUT, AGAIN, AN INCREDIBLE TURNOUT, THE PARADE ROUTE WAS PACKED FROM START TO FINISH, I HAVE HAD SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS WITH HANS SCHOLL, WHO, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, HAS BEEN DOING THIS FOR 20 YEARS, GOD BLESS HIM, ABOUT THE PARADE ROUTE FOR NEXT YEAR. AND DO WE NEED TO MAYBE REIMAGINE THE WAY THAT IT GOES JUST TO, YOU KNOW, IMPROVE OR INCREASE THE SORT OF SQUARE FOOTAGE FOR PEOPLE TO POPULATE? SO THEY'RE GOING TO GIVE THAT SOME CONSIDERATION AS WELL, THE FIREWORKS WERE WAS GREAT AS ALWAYS. THE COMMUNITY BAND WAS GOOD. AND THE CROWD UP THERE, YOU KNOW, BEFORE THE FIREWORKS WAS, WAS IMPRESSIVE. IT WAS A REALLY GREAT TURNOUT, EVEN WHEN THE WEATHER WAS A LITTLE QUESTIONABLE FOR A MOMENT THERE. BUT AGAIN, THANKS FOR EVERYONE'S EFFORT ON THAT DAY.IT WAS IT WAS IT WAS GREAT AS ALWAYS, ALSO, I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO JUSTIN AND MIKE AND THEIR TEAMS FOR THE STATE ROUTE 605. TURN LANES. I, I MEAN, I LITERALLY BLINKED, AND THAT WAS DONE. YEAH, YEAH, I, I DON'T THINK I'VE EVER SEEN A PROJECT IN NEW ALBANY GET CONSTRUCTED THAT QUICKLY. SO KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK. I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOU GUYS DID, BUT IT WAS MAGIC TO HAVE A CONTRACTOR TOO, SO THEY THEY DESERVE A LOT OF CREDIT AS WELL. OF COURSE. YEAH, SURE.
YEAH. WELL DONE, THAT'S ALL FROM THE MAYOR. ANYTHING FROM THE CLERK, A COUPLE OF THINGS, I HAVE EMAILED ALL OF COUNCIL ABOUT THE AUDITOR, STATE TRAINING, THREE OF YOU HAVE DONE IT SO FAR. I'VE GOT FOUR COUNCIL MEMBERS TO GO, MAYOR SPALDING WILL TELL YOU IT'S QUICK. IT'S
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BASICALLY AN ANIMATED SHORT, BUT IT IS REQUIRED BY EVERYONE. DOWNLOAD THE CERTIFICATE. I ALSO, FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT STILL NEED TO COMPLETE IT, THERE'S ALSO A FORM THAT YOU HAVE TO SIGN THAT GOES INTO OUR FILES. I'VE PRINTED AND PUT THOSE IN YOUR MAILBOXES SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO PRINT THEM, BUT MAKE SURE THAT BOTH OF THOSE DOCUMENTS GET BACK TO ME WHEN YOU'RE DONE, I'VE GIVEN YOU A DEADLINE OF AUGUST 8TH TO GET IT DONE BY. NEXT UP, I'VE ONLY WATCHED IT ABOUT 20 TIMES, SO YOU GET IT? ONCE WAS ENOUGH FOR ME. THANKS YOU'LL GET TO REPEAT IT IN FOUR YEARS. NEXT UP. OH. I WAS TOLD THAT THERE WAS AN OPENING ON THE CIC, AND THE COUNCIL WISHED TO FOLLOW THE USUAL PROCEDURE OF ADVERTISING AND ACCEPTING APPLICATIONS. IS THAT CORRECT? IF SO, I WILL MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT, PLEASE. THANK YOU. OKAY. AND LASTLY. OH, JUST ME. I WANTED TO THANK CANDY CHRISTINA AND PUBLIC SERVICE IN PARTICULAR AS WELL AS POLICE DEPARTMENT COUNCIL FOR A HOT AND SWEATY BUT JOYFUL JULY 4TH PARADE. THAT'S IT FOR ME. ALL RIGHT. ANY UPDATE FROM THE FINANCE DIRECTOR? NOTHING TO REPORT TONIGHT. ALL RIGHT, CITY MANAGER, NO REPORT. CITY ATTORNEY. OH, NO REPORT. ALL RIGHT, PULL FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.[16. POLL FOR COUNCIL COMMENT]
ANY COMMENT FROM THE PUBLIC FOR COUNCIL COMMENT? ANY ADDITIONAL COUNCIL COMMENT? I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU AGAIN TO THE PUBLIC SERVICE DEPARTMENT AND THE CONSTRUCTION FOR TAYLOR FARM. THOSE BRIDGES ARE IN, AND THEY ARE AMAZING. YES, MUCH, MUCH NEEDED AND VERY[17. EXECUTIVE SESSION]
APPRECIATED. YEAH ALL RIGHT THEN I WOULD MOVE THAT WE ADJOURN, FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR TWO DISTINCT REASONS. ONE, PURSUANT TO NEW ALBANY CHARTER SECTION 4.03, FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PURPOSES AND PURSUANT TO OHIO REVISED CODE ONE 2120 2G1 FOR DISCUSSION REGARDING APPOINTMEN, EMPLOYMENT, DISMISSAL, DISCIPLINE, PROMOTION, DEMOTION, OR COMPENSATION OF A PUBLIC OFFICIAL. I DO NOT BELIEVE WE INTEND TO TAKE ANY ACTION AFTER, BUT SECOND, WE WILL HAVE SOME OTHER BUSINESS TAKING ACTION. WELL, THAT MIGHT BE IT MIGHT. WE MIGHT, I MEAN, YEAH, TO BE CLEAR, WE'RE THERE'S ANOTHER ITEM ON THE AGENDA UNDER OTHER BUSINESS, BUT, NOT FROM THE EXECUTIVE SESSION. RIGHT? CORRECT. OKAY SO IT'S FIRST AND SECOND. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER SECOND. YES EXCELLENT. MAYOR. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. YES MEMBER. RISK. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER.DEREK. YES YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. CHRIS. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. ROSS. YES. SEVEN. YES. VOTES TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AT 7:35 P.M. FOR OUR OPERATOR, FOR CAMERAS AND FOR ANYONE THAT MIGHT BE FOLLOWING ALONG AT HOME. WE'RE GOING TO TURN OFF THE AUDIO AND VIDEO FOR YOU.
MEETING IS STILL IN SESSION, BUT COUNCIL, WE WILL COME AND OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WE ARE PUSHING SOUND, I MOVE, WE COME OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION. SECOND. OKAY. ONE AND TWO. COUNCIL MEMBER.
DULL. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. KIS. YES. DO COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE THEIR MICROPHONES BACK ON? YES.
YES. AGAIN YES. ALL RIGHT. COUNCIL MEMBER. FELLOWS. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. DEREK. YES.
COUNCIL MEMBER. BRISK. YES. MAYOR SPALDING. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. TROUT. YES. SEVEN. YES VOTES TO COME OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION AT 9:01 P.M. I BELIEVE WE HAVE TWO ITEMS, WELL, WE HAVE
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A COUPLE ITEMS UNDER THE BUSINESS. I'M GONNA GO FIRST TO. OH, YOU KNOW WHAT? BY PUTTING MY COMPUTER AWAY, WELL, FIRST THINGS FIRST, COUNCIL, WITH THE LAST DISCUSSION PERTAINING TO THE IDEA AND SUSTAINABILITY BOARD, THE WORD POLICIES IS, IN FACT, IN THE SUSTAINABILITY BOARD LANGUAGE, JOE LOOKED OVER MY SHOULDER AND CONFIRMED THAT HE MISSED IT, IT'S EASY TO MISS, SO I WANT TO KNOW IF COUNCIL WANTS ME TO GO AHEAD AND WRITE THE LEGISLATION TO FIX THAT PIECE OF THE CODE, I THINK WE I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE STAFF TAKE A LOOK AT ALL OF OUR, ADVISORY BOARDS. ISN'T PARKS AND TRAILS A SIMILAR THING? SO. AND MAYBE DOES NOT HAVE THE WORD POLICIES? ALSO, THE CRAP DOES AND WE COULD CHECK THAT. WELL, I JUST WOULD LIKE TO KIND OF DO THAT COMPARISON AND MAKE SURE WE'RE CONSISTENT WITH OUR INTENTIONS AND WITH WHAT WE WANT TO GIVE IN TERMS OF MAYBE HAVE STAFF TAKE A GOOD LOOK AT ALL OF IT, GIVE US A COMPARISON, AND ALL OF US TALK ABOUT WHAT WE WANT. THESE YOU KNOW WHAT, HOW WE THINK THIS SHOULD BE. I THINK WE ALL AGREE THAT WE DON'T WANT BASED ON IT WAS THE MAYOR'S RECOMMENDATION AND IT WAS AN MOMENT FOR ME. IT HAS TO BE OUR POLICIES, NOT THEIR POLICIES. THE QUESTION IS, ARE THERE IS THERE AN OPENING IN THE VERBIAGE? SHOULD THERE BE AN OPENING IN THE VERBIAGE FOR US TO ASK THEM FOR ADVICE ABOUT OUR POLICY MAKING WHEN WE SO CHOOSE? AND MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD COME UP WITH A CONSISTENT WAY OF SAYING IN EACH OF THESE. SO I PERSONALLY THINK WE SHOULD TABLE IT, HAVE STAFF TAKE A LOOK[01:05:04]
AT THAT, YOU KNOW, AND THEN COME BACK TO IT. ANY THOUGHTS ON THA? I GUESS IT SOUNDS LIKE STAFF HAS, BUT ONLY FOR THE WORD POLICIES. YEAH. AS FAR AS YEAH, I MEAN I WANT TO WORK WITH SEVERAL NOT SO MUCH. AND WITH ALL THESE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS SLASH PANELS GOING ONLINE AT SO MANY DIFFERENT TIMES, IT'S PROBABLY A GOOD IDEA TO KIND OF CONSOLIDATE THEM ALL INTO SOME VERY SIMILAR LANGUAGE. SO I AGREE. YEAH SAME THING AS WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT ATTENDANCE ISSUES AND ALL THAT. I THINK IT CAN ALL BE PART OF THE SAME REVIEW. YEAH. BECAUSE SO MANY OF THIS STUFF COULD BE ESPECIALLY WITH THE IDEA I THINK THE IDEA ONE WE JUST APPROVED IS A GOOD TEMPLATE THAT WE COULD MAYBE TRY TO SYNC UP SOME OF THE OTHER ONES, GIVEN THE RESPECTIVE RESPONSIBILITIES. OKAY. I THINK WE HAVE SOME DIRECTION JOE. DO YOU AGREE. YES. OKAY. GOOD SEGU.SPEAKING OF THE ATTENDANCE POLICY, COUNCIL WAS TALKING ABOUT THAT AND I'M GOING TO PASS OUT ACTUALLY. OKAY. TAKE ONE, PASS IT DOWN THE LANGUAGE, THAT LAW DIRECTOR ALBRECHT SUGGESTED AND THAT I SENT TO YOU, BUT I ALSO PRINTED IT SO YOU COULD HAVE IT IN FRONT OF YOU, THIS IS IN OUR CITY, CODE 129 .02. AND, RIGHT NOW IT MIRRORS COUNCIL'S ATTENDANCE POLICY, WHICH REQUIRES, FORFEITURE. WITH THREE CONSECUTIVE ABSENCES BY ANY BOARD MEMBER OR FOR ABSENCES IN ANY 12 MONTH PERIOD, COUNCIL IS ABLE TO GET EXCUSED ABSENCES. THERE'S NO PROVISION FOR THAT IN THE BOARDS. THEY JUST THEY SHOW UP OR THEY DON'T, BASED ON SOME OF COUNCIL'S FEEDBACK, LAW DIRECTOR ALBRECHT ADDED, UNLESS THE BOARD OR COMMISSION MEMBERS ABSENCE IS IN QUOTES EXCUSED AS DETERMINED IN THE SOLE DISCRETION OF CITY COUNCIL DUE TO AN ILLNESS, INJURY OR OTHER EMERGENCY CIRCUMSTANCE OF THE MEMBER OR AN IMMEDIATELY IMMEDIATE FAMILY MEMBER. MEDIA.
YEAH, YEAH IMMEDIATELY COMES OUT. IMMEDIATE FAMILY MEMBER AND THEN THE FORFEITURE WOULD OCCUR REGARDLESS OF THE REASON. SO AND THEN I JUST HAD ONE QUESTION ON THE LANGUAGE. YEAH. AND THAT IS, IN THE EVENT THAT THERE'S A WORK RELATED, EVENT POTENTIALLY THAT, YOU KNOW, IS COULD THAT BE CONSIDERED, EMERGENCY CIRCUMSTANCES OF THE MEMBER BECAUSE I DON'T NECESSARILY SEE A WORK RELATED EVENTS IN HERE. JUST WONDERING IF, IF THAT WOULD BE KNOWING THAT IT'S STILL AT THE SOLE DISCRETION OF CITY COUNCIL FOR IT TO BE EXCUSED OR NOT EXCUSED, BUT WOULD THAT FALL UNDER THAT CATEGORY OF EMERGENCY CIRCUMSTANCES OF THE MEMBER? I WOULD SAY THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN, COUNCIL WOULD HAVE THE DISCRETION TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THAT WORK RELATED INCIDENT, IN FACT, QUALIFIES AS AN EMERGENCY, LIKE THAT'S YOU HAVE THE DISCRETION TO DETERMINE ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS WHETHER YOU THINK IT'S AN EMERGENCY OR NOT. OKAY. I COULD SEE A SITUATION IF WE HAVE A SERVICE MEMBER THAT THEIR JOB IS TO, YOU KNOW, RESPOND TO AN EMERGENCY, THAT THAT WOULD BE A WORK RELATED EXCUSE. THAT WOULD BE AN EMERGENCY. OKAY. AGAIN, AT THE SOLE DISCRETION OF CITY COUNCIL. YEAH. THAT'S FINE. OKAY. I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION, THOUGH, THAT I AM CONCERNED ABOUT. THIS TO ME WORKS VERY WELL FOR A BOARD THAT MEETS EVERY COUPLE OF MONTHS.
ARE WE OKAY WITH THE SAME HARD NUMBERS? FOR A BOARD THAT MIGHT MEET? I DON'T KNOW. DO WE HAVE SOME THAT MEET A COUPLE TIMES A MONTH RIGHT NOW? WE DO, DON'T WE? COMMISSION DOES. PLANNING MEETS MORE OFTEN THAN ANY OTHER BOARD? YEAH. BCA ONLY MEETS ABOUT ON AVERAGE SIX TIMES A YEAR. SO, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING 24 TIMES A YEAR AND SOMEBODY HAS TO MISS FOUR TIMES A YEAR, ARE WE OKAY WITH THAT BEING AN AUTOMATIC UNLESS IN OUR DISCRETION, WE SEE IT AS AN EMERGENCY. I YOU KNOW, I, I TEND TO BELIEVE I, I, I THINK I AM OKAY WITH THAT BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE THAT BOARD IS SO, IT'S SO IMPORTANT, YOU KNOW, THAT THEY AND THEY NEED TO BE INVOLVED IN THOSE DISCUSSIONS. AND I WOULD HATE TO YOU KNOW, IF YOU CAN'T MAKE THE CADENCE OF THOSE MEETINGS, THEN THAT'S NOT THE RIGHT BOARD FOR YOU. I, I KNOW I'M LOOKING I'M THINKING RIGHT NOW OF A COUPLE OF PEOPLE ON THE ARCHITECTURE REVIEW BOARD WHO I THINK ARE AMAZING AND, AND ADD A GREAT DEAL TO THE BOARD AND WHO PUT A LOT OF HOMEWORK IN, BUT ALSO ARE RETIRED AND EMPTY NESTERS. AND I KNOW WE'RE GOING ON VACATION, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE TIMES A YEAR AND SOMETIMES TO EUROPE. AND IF IT'S IF THERE'S A MEETING EVERY OTHER WEEK FOR A YEAR IS NOT MUCH. SO, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SURE I'M FEELING AS COMFORTABLE WITH THAT NUMBER, BUT I'LL ACQUIESCE TO WHATEVER MOST OF COUNCIL THINKS. AND I'M NOT SURE HOW YOU FIX THAT IF YOU HAVE TO DO IT EACH ONE SEPARATELY AND NOT DO IT. UNIFORM. I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE
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ANSWER IS, BUT I DON'T LOVE IT. YOU COULD WRITE SOME LANGUAGE. IF A BOARD MEETS IN EXCESS OF 12 MEETINGS, MAYBE THROW ANOTHER NUMBER IN, BUT DO IT AS A PROVISIONAL. YOU THINK MORE THAN ONCE A MONTH. BASICALLY, I THINK IF THEY'RE MORE THAN 12 MEETINGS IN A YEAR, THEN THAT BOARD MEMBER CAN HAVE A GREATER NUMBER OF ABSENCES. YOU KNOW, YOU THINK A LOT LIKE A LAWYER DRAFTING. I MEAN, I GOT TO TELL YOU, THAT SOUNDS LIKE ONE OF MY LEASES WITH THE RUNNING SENTENCE. AND BUT YOU'RE RIGHT, YOU COULD. BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S TWO CATEGORIES. IT'S PLANNING COMMISSION AND EVERYTHING ELSE. YEAH. IS IT I DON'T I REALLY DON'T KNOW. DO WE NEED TO TAKE STOCK OF WHO THIS WOULD APPLY TO AND HOW MUCH? I MEAN PLANNING COMMISSION IS THE ONLY ONE PRETTY MUCH TWICE A MONTH. YEAH, EVERY MONTH. AND ONE OF THOSE RB LIKE IT WAS RIGHT. IT WAS AN RB OR IT'S NOT QUITE THERE. IT WAS NOT QUITE TWICE. IT'S NOT QUITE. YEAH. MAYBE NOW IT IS. NO NOW IT IS TWICE. BUT NOW IT'S AT FULL SPEED. YEAH. YOU'RE PROBABLY GETTING THE 12 PLUS ANOTHER 4 TO 6 ON TOP. WHAT WOULD YOU FEEL LIKE WOULD BE A GOOD NUMBER FOR PLANNING COMMISSION. THE MORE.LET ME THROW THIS OUT THERE WHILE WE'RE THINKING ABOUT IT, WITH BZA I HAVING BEEN ON THERE FOR 14 YEARS, THERE WERE TIMES WHERE WE WERE ON THERE. WE MET MORE THAN SIX TIMES A YEAR, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW WE WORK OUT. SAY SOMEONE MISSES THE FIRST THREE MEETINGS AND WE'RE LOOKING AT HISTORICAL AND WE SAY, OH, WE THEY MEET SIX TIMES A YEAR AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY MEET EIGHT TIMES FOR THAT YEAR OR TEN TIMES THAT YEAR. I MEAN, HOW DO WE KNOW THAT? RIGHT? YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? I DON'T KNOW HOW WE KNOW. THAT'S PROBABLY WHY IT WAS NEVER IN THERE TO BEGIN WITH.
YEAH, I DON'T KNOW. BUT I LIKE THE I LIKE THE LANGUAGE AS WELL. JUST SO I'M CLEAR, IS YOUR SUGGESTION THAT WE LOWER THE STANDARD FOR THE OTHER ONES THAT MEET LESS FREQUENTLY AND LOWER TO TWO ABSENCES OR. NO, NO, I'M GOOD. I'M GOOD WITH THIS. FOR SOMEBODY THAT THAT MEETS APPROXIMATELY SIX TIMES A YEAR, BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE 50% OF THE MEETINGS THAT WOULD MISS. YEAH, I THINK THAT'S A PROBLEM. YEAH. I WHAT I'M SAYING IS IF YOU HAVE SO PLANNING COMMISSION, THE ONLY ONE THAT'S THE EXCEPTION. RIGHT NOW. YES. OH OKAY. SO YOU COULD SAY MAYBE WE MAKE THE EXCEPTION FOR HOLD IN EXCESS OF 12 MEETINGS PER YEAR. THEY COULD MISS UP TO FOUR. THE PROBLEM WITH THAT IS, NOTED IS THAT THAT'S VERY HARD TO JUDGE ON A ROLLING BASIS, BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW HOW MANY MEETINGS THEY'RE GOING TO DO. WE DON'T KNOW IF PLANNING COMMISSION IS LIKE THEY DON'T. I THINK THE INFORMAL MEETING IS NOT ALWAYS SCHEDULED. IT IS. IT'S SCHEDULED AS NEEDED.
SO THAT WOULD BE HARD TO JUDGE. I WOULD SUGGEST IF WE WANT TO MAKE AN EXCEPTION FOR PLANNING COMMISSION, THAT WE ADD A SENTENCE SAYING HOWEVER MANY DAYS THAT WE THINK THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBER WOULD MISS, THAT WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE TO THE BOARD. I LOVE THE CALENDAR YEAR THING, PERIOD. THEN IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT, YOU COULD JUST SAY IN THE PAST ROLLING 12 MONTHS OR SOMETHING ALONG, WELL, IT IS 12 MONTHS RIGHT NOW. YEAH. IN ANY 12 MONTH PERIOD IT'S THE SAME AS SO THEN, YOU KNOW, THREE IN A ROW. SO THEN YOU KNOW WHAT, TWO MONTHS AGO YOU MISSED A MEETING. THAT'S YOUR FOUR. YEAH. SO YOU KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENED IN THE PAST 12 MONTHS HOW FREQUENTLY IT'S MET. BUT THEN THIS WOULD ALSO THE DISCRETION OF COUNSEL. I MEAN, THIS IS THIS DISCUSSION IS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD HAVE, AS WELL BASED ON WHATEVER THAT SITUATION IS. AND WE COULD LOOK AT THIS LANGUAGE AND WITH THE KNOWLEDGE OF THE AMOUNT OF MEETINGS THAT THEY'RE HAVING, THAT COULD BE PART OF THE DISCUSSION THAT WE DISCRETION THAT WE USE. SO I THINK THAT'S CERTAINLY A CONSIDERATION. BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THAT CONTEMPLATES VACATIONS BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THAT'S ILLNESS INJURY OR EMERGENCY. YEAH. SINCE YOU HAVE A PROVISION IN THERE FOR VACATION. YEAH. OR UNLESS SOMEBODY HAS LIKE SPRING FEVER AND THEY NEED TO GET OUT OF TOWN. WELL WE DO KNOW THAT THERE'S A LOT OF TRAVELING IN THIS TOWN AROUND SPRING BREAK AND THEN IN THE WINTER BREAK. AND I THINK THAT THAT ALLOWS YOU TO DO TWO REALLY GOOD VACATIONS.
YEAH, YOU KNOW. OKAY. AND THEN THAT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD EVEN GET WITHIN YOUR FOR, FOR THAT, YOU KNOW, IF, IF THERE'S, THEY'RE SPREAD OUT. SO DO WE NEED A PROCESS FOR A BOARD MEMBER TO FORMALLY SEEK CITY COUNCIL'S DETERMINATION THAT THEIR ABSENCE IS EXCUSED? I MEAN, WE'RE NOT POLICING THIS AND CALLING THEM AND BEING LIKE, I SAW YOU MISSED THE MEETING. I MEAN, THEY NEED TO FILL OUT SOMETHING AND REQUEST THAT WE MAKE THAT DETERMINATION. CAN I? YES. AND I HAVE A I THINK I, I, I WOULD LIKE TO WORKSHOP A LITTLE BIT OF THE SENTENCE AS WELL TO ADD TO THAT. LIKE THAT, INSTEAD OF SAYING THE FORFEITURE WILL WOULD OCCUR REGARDLESS OF THE REASONS FOR ABSENCES, I WOULD JUST SAY THE FORFEITURE WILL OCCUR UNLESS THERE BECAUSE WE DON'T NEED TO SAY REGARDLESS OF THE REASON FOR ABSENCES, BECAUSE WE'VE GIVEN THEM THE REASON THAT WE WOULD HAVE THE ABSENCES. I AGREE, I DON'T LOVE PUTTING THE BURDEN ON THEM TO COME TO US AND SAY, PLEASE, I WANTED TO I DID WANT TO FOLLOW UP TO THAT. I MEAN, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO A BETTER IDEA. I JUST I MEAN, I'M NOT LOOKING TO BE THE ATTENDANCE POLICE. IT'S NOT I'M NOT INTERESTED. MAYBE WE CAN CREATE A SUBCOMMITTEE. YOU GUYS CAN FIGHT ABOUT THAT. I ONLY
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HAVE ONE SUBCOMMITTEE. AND I TOOK US TO THAT MEETING. I MEAN, YOU COULD PUT ON THE LIAISON. I DO THINK IT'S THE LIAISON'S RESPONSIBILITY TO COMMUNICATE TO COUNCIL AND SAY, HEY, WE'VE GOT AN ONGOING ISSUE WITH A MEMBER, AND I RECOMMEND. AND THEN THE LIAISON CAN DIG INTO AND REACH OUT, JUST LIKE WHAT MATT DID. JUST WE. YEAH. TYPICALLY DONE. LIAISON REACHES OUT TO THE BOARD MEMBER AND SAYS, HEY, YOU KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. YOU'VE MISSED THREE. WHY? AND THEN WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT. COUNCIL IS ALSO ENDING UP DOING AN ANNUAL REVIEW AND WE DO THE RENEWALS IN JANUARY. YOU GET TO SEE EVERYBODY. YEAH. WHEN WE MEET AND IN LIKE NOVEMBER, DECEMBER YOU GET TO SEE THE FULL ROSTER JUST, YOU KNOW, IN FRONT OF YOU. YEAH. OKAY. I THINK WE'VE ALL HAD THAT CONVERSATION WITH SOMEONE IN THE PAST. I MEAN, I KNOW I HAD IN THE PAST IN BOTH CASES THEY'RE LIKE, MY TIME IS JUST I JUST CAN'T MAKE THEM. AND THEY BOTH RESIGNED DUE TO WHATEVER, WHATEVER REASONS THAT THEY HAD. WE HAD A NICE CONVERSATION. AND, YOU KNOW, THEN WE APPOINTED A COUPLE NEW PEOPLE, BUT SO DO WE ADD A SENTENCE BEFORE THE LANGUAGE OR IT'S ON LESS AND SAY THE COUNCIL LIAISON WILL CONTACT THE MEMBER? I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO ALL THAT. I THINK I THINK IT'S A DE FACTO. I DON'T WANT IT'S GOING TO I DON'T WANT TO. YEAH, MAYBE WE'LL FIND IT IN ONE CASE THAT THE COUNCIL LIAISON. AND THAT'S AWKWARD. YEAH I, I MY QUESTION THOUGH IS STILL DO WE WANT A DIFFERENT SUBSTANCE THERE FOR PLANNING COMMISSION OR NOT. I DON'T THINK SO. YOU KNOW I THINK IF IT BECOMES A PROBLEM WE CAN REVISIT THIS. OKAY. I DON'T I THINK IT HASN'T BEEN AN ISSUE. I DON'T THINK. DO YOU THINK THOUGH, THAT WE HAVE ANY KIND OF BY, BY MAKING THIS ORDINANCE THEN IF WE DON'T NOTICE IT UPDATING THE ORDINANCE, DO WE. HAVE WE WAIVED IT WITH OTHERS LATER WHEN WE DO NOTICE IT. SO I WOULD SAY GENERALLY PROBABLY NOT. I MEAN, I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT GO INTO THAT ABOUT KNOWLEDGE, NOTICE AND ALL THOSE FUN THINGS. SO I THINK YOU'RE GOOD. AND I THINK, I WOULDN'T WORRY ABOUT THAT. SO ALSO, IF THEORETICALLY A PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBER WAS WAS GONE FOR THREE MEETINGS OVER 24 AND IT NEVER NOBODY EVER NOTICED THAT IT NEVER BECAME AN ISSUE AND WE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING, THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN'T ENFORCE THIS WHEN IT IS AN ISSUE. RIGHT? OKAY THEY WOULD STILL BE OKAY. SO AND THIS SHOULD BE COMING UP DURING THE ORGANIZATIONAL MEETINGS THAT ARE HELD ONCE A YEAR. HOPEFULLY THEY'RE ON THE AGENDA, IF THEY'RE LIKE ME, THEY'RE, THEY GET READ ALOUD, SO EVERYONE'S GETTING AN ANNUAL REMINDER. OKAY. AND JEN HAS PROVIDED US THAT THE ATTENDANCE FOR ALL THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, THAT'S TRUE FOR EACH MEMBER WITH CHRISTINA'S HELP. YES OKAY. SO ARE WE GOOD? I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE LANGUAGE CHANGE, LIKE YOU SAID. SO WE WOULD NIX THE LINE IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE BLUE WHERE IT SAYS THAT FORFEITURE OCCURS REGARDLESS OF REASON. WE JUST TAKE WE JUST TAKE THAT THE FORFEITURE WOULD OCCUR UNLESS. AND THE BLUE LINE UNLESS THE BOARD OF COMMISSION MEMBERS HAVE EXCUSED. OR YOU COULD I LIKE THAT I LIKE THAT BETTER THAN MINE. MINE, MINE HAD THAT. THE FORFEITURE WOULD OCCUR AT THE END. YEAH. LIKE UNLESS YOU PROVE THIS, YOU ARE. YEAH. I MOVED TO BEGINNING BECAUSE. YEAH, I LIKE THAT SENTENCE. YEAH GOOD. OKAY.HOW MANY JDS COME TO A CONSENSUS? ALL RIGHT, WITH COUNCIL'S, DIRECTION AS SUCH, I WILL DROP THIS CODE CHANGE. WE'LL THROW IT INTO AN ORDINANCE SO YOU GUYS CAN PASS IT, AND WE CAN FIX THE CODE AND ALSO THE BOARD AND COMMISSION RULES, WHICH ARE THE SAME THING. THANK YOU. YEAH, THAT'S ALL I HAVE. I HAVE, SOME APPOINTMENTS. OKAY. TO MAKE, I MOVE TO APPROVE THE FOLLOWING MEMBERS, TO THE IDEA IMPLEMENTATION PANEL WITH THE FOLLOWING TERMS, I MOVE TO APPOINT MARIE ALVARADO, CONNOR BERRY, AND DOCTOR TERRACYCLE TO A TERM BEGINNING SEVEN ONE.
WELL, I JUST SAY SEVEN, 16, 20, 24 TO 630, 2025. AND THEN, YEAH, LET'S DO THAT ONE FIRST. OKAY.
SO THAT'S THE ONE YEAR TERMS. YEAH. WE'VE GOT THREE MEMBERS AND TWO COUNCIL MEMBER WILTROUT.
YES. COUNCIL MEMBER CHRIS. YES. MAYOR. SPALDING. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. BRISK. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. DIRK. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. FELLOWS YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. SHAW. YES. I HAVE SEVEN YES VOTES TO APPOINT THOSE THREE MEMBERS TO THE ID PANEL FOR THE TERM SPECIFIED. AND THEN I MOVE TO APPROVE, DOCTOR BRIANNA WILLIAMS FROM THE, TERM STARTING 716, 2024 TO 630, 2026. SECOND, SORRY I MISSED THE NAME. DOCTOR WILLIAMS. BRIANNA, BRIANNA, BRIANNA. YES OKAY. AND COUNCIL
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MEMBER CHRISTOPHER SECOND, IS THAT OKAY? COUNCIL MEMBER. ULTRA. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. KIST YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. SCHOLL. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. FELLOWS. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. DARBY YES.COUNCIL MEMBER. BRISK. YES. MAYOR. SPALDING. YES, I HAVE SEVEN YES VOTES TO APPOINT. THE NAME THAT YOU GAVE ME FOR THE TERM SPECIFIED. AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED TO VOTE ON THIS, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A CALL FOR APPLICATIONS FOR ADDITIONAL PANELS. SO WITH. YEAH THREE BIG.
THERE ARE THREE VACANCIES ON THE IDEA PANEL. SO WE NEED THREE NEW PEOPLE, THREE NEW PEOPLE WHO ARE OKAY, I WILL RUN THAT CONCURRENT WITH THE SICK POSITION, READY TO ATTEND. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL GET THAT GOING. AND I'LL GET THOSE DATES AND THEN WE'LL APPOINT PEOPLE, GO TO THEIR. ANYTHING ELSE? I KNOW THAT WE ADJOURN BEFORE OH NO, NO, WE HAVE GOT ANOTHER ISSUE. QUICK THERE'S A REASON BEN STANDING UP. THAT'S RIGHT. THERE'S ANOTHER BEN STANDING UP. YEAH. SURE WHO'S PRESENTING THIS ONE? ANY OTHER CODE UPDATES FOR CONSIDERATION? CLERK. MASON, YOU MENTIONED I'M DONE WITH YOUR THOUGHTS. ALL RIGHT, AS YOU MAY RECALL, THERE WAS A BALLOT INITIATIVE, PASSED OHIO, ISSUED TWO, BY THE VOTERS OF OHIO TO LEGALIZE, RECREATIONAL MARIJUANA SALES.
AND MUNICIPALITIES HAVE THE RIGHT TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THEY WANT TO PUT A LIMITATION ON COMMERCIAL CULTIVATION, PROCESSING AND DISPENSING AND BASICALLY RETAIL SALES. OUR TIME IS GROWING NEAR FOR THAT, REGULATION TO TAKE PLACE IF WE ARE INTERESTED IN DOING SO, SO I'M JUST BRINGING IT TO THE COUNCIL'S ATTENTION THAT IF WE WANTED TO AMEND OUR CODIFIED ORDINANCES, TO REGULATE RECREATIONAL MARIJUANA SALES, WE SHOULD PROBABLY TAKE THAT OPPORTUNITY THIS EVENING TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION. AND I ASKED THE CITY MANAGER AND THE CITY ATTORNEY TO HELP US DRAFT LEGISLATION TO ACCOMPLISH THAT. SO I JUST OPEN THE FLOOR UP FOR DISCUSSIONS ABOUT, AND AGAIN, JUST BY BACKGROUND, WE HAD PREVIOUSLY PUT ON A SIMILAR PIECE OF LEGISLATION REGARDING, MEDICAL MARIJUANA AND CULTIVATION AND SALES IN THE PAST. SO IT'S FOLLOWING A PRECEDENT THAT WE'D ESTABLISHED IN THE PAST, ALSO, FOR THE RECORD, I BELIEVE THERE IS ALREADY AN EXISTING, MEDICAL MARIJUANA DISPENSARY THAT IS OPEN ON THOMPSON ROAD, THOMPSON AND HAMILTON, AND MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE CONSTITUTIONAL LANGUAGE WOULD ALLOW THAT SAME FACILITY TO SELL, RECREATIONAL MARIJUANA AS WELL. SO IT'S NOT LIKE OUR RESIDENTS AREN'T GOING TO HAVE SOMEWHERE TO GO TO BUY IT. IT JUST WOULDN'T BE IN THE, SO THE LEGISLATION YOU'VE DRAFTED PROHIBITS THESE FACILITIES IN NEW ALBANY, RECREATIONAL. IT BASICALLY TAKES THE LANGUAGE THAT WE ALREADY HAVE PASSED, AND IT TAKES OUT THE TERM MEDICAL AND JUST USES MARIJUANA, AND THEN CLEARLY SAYS THAT IT APPLIES TO RECREATIONAL AND MEDICAL. SO IT JUST MAKES IT VERY CLEAR THAT, NEITHER MEDICAL NOR RECREATIONAL RETAIL SALES WOULD BE PERMITTED. I'D SUPPORT THAT. AT THE RISK OF ASKING A STUPID QUESTION, CAN YOU REFRESH ME? I WAS NOT HERE. LIKE WHAT? THE RATIONALE FOR BANNING THOSE ESTABLISHMENTS WOULD BE LIKE, I THINK CITY COUNCIL AT THE TIME WANTED TO, INDICATE TO THE, WOULD BE MARKETPLACE THAT THOSE TYPES OF ACTIVITIES, WEREN'T SOMETHING WE WERE WILLING TO ACCEPT, WE HAVE A LOT OF ZONING THAT DEALS WITH SIMILAR, NOT SIMILAR, BUT INDICATING TO OTHER TYPES OF BUSINESSES THAT, YOU KNOW, THEIR TYPE OF ACTIVITY WOULD NOT BE WELCOME IN OUR COMMUNITY, ALSO AT THAT TIME, JOHNSTOWN MADE IT VERY CLEAR THAT THEY WERE VERY MUCH IN IN THE BUSINESS OF TRYING TO ATTRACT, MEDICAL MARIJUANA CULTIVATION AND PROCESSING. SO WE WERE LIKE, IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN THAT, THERE'S A GREAT BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY RIGHT UP THE STREET. YEP THAT'S MY MEMORY OF IT. I CAN'T REMEMBER WHO WAS HERE. THAT MAKES SENSE.
I THINK THAT MAKES SENSE. I THINK ALSO AT THE TIME, WE JUST DIDN'T KNOW WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE, HOW IT WOULD FEEL, WHAT WOULD BE GOING ON, I FOR MY PART, I WOULD SAY THAT WHAT I HAVE SEEN AND WHAT SEEMS TO BE HAPPENING DOESN'T ACTUALLY BOTHER ME. IF IT WERE IN THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY, BUT I ALSO DON'T FEEL THE NEED TO HAVE IT HERE. AND SO I'M FINE WITH US PASSING AN
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ORDINANCE THAT MAKES IT NOT ALLOWED. I THINK THE ONE THING THAT DOES CONCERN ME IS THAT IT STILL REMAINS A CASH ONLY BUSINESS, AND THAT THAT DOES CREATE SOME, YOU KNOW, RISK OF, OF MORE THEFT AND, AND THOSE KINDS OF ISSUES, SO I'M, I'M INDIFFERENT ON THE I WOULD LEAN TOWARDS NOT HAVING IT IN THE COMMUNITY. I THINK WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT HAMILTON ROAD AND THOMPSON, THERE'S GOING TO BE ENOUGH PLACES ON OUR PERIPHERY THAT IT'S EASILY ACCESSIBLE TO PEOPLE. AND AS LONG AS THEY HAVE THAT ACCESSIBILITY, THEN I DON'T THINK WE HAVE TO PROVIDE IT. AND I THINK OUR RESIDENTS WOULD. I THINK THERE ARE PLENTY OF RESIDENTS WHO WOULD PARTAKE, BUT I ALSO THINK THERE WAS A LOT THAT WOULD SAY IT'D BE NICE TO NOT HAVE IT IN THE COMMUNITY. I THINK, I THINK WE DON'T KNOW. WE DON'T KNOW AND I DON'T, I WE HAVE THE FRONT RUNNER IN SO MANY BUSINESS OPPORTUNITIES HERE IN THE CENTRAL OHIO REGION, AND THIS DOESN'T NEED TO BE ANOTHER ONE OF OURS. SO I THINK WE SEE HOW IT PLAYS OUT. HOPEFULLY THE FINANCIAL, TRANSACTIONS CAN GET MORE STREAMLINED. I'D LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, MAYBE REVISIT IT. YOU KNOW, THREE, FIVE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, SEE IF HOW THE MARKETPLACE LOOKS, IF OTHER COMMUNITIES HAVE HAD SUCCESS. BUT I WOULD NOT WANT TO DO IT RIGHT NOW. YEAH. TO SLOAN'S POINT, I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE READILY AVAILABLE TO RESIDENTS IN NEW ALBANY, WHETHER IT'S IN THE CITY OR NOT. AND I THINK THE REAL, REALISTICALLY, THERE ARE A LOT OF LANDLORDS THAT THEIR RESTRICTIONS IN THE LEASE THAT PREVENT A LOT OF THESE FACILITIES ANYWAY. SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, THERE WOULD BE LIMITED AREAS THAT AN ESTABLISHMENT OF THIS TYPE COULD OPERATE ANYWAY. SO I FEEL COMFORTABLE, WITH THE LEGISLATION. YEAH. WELL, ONCE AND ONCE ONE OF OUR LANDOWNERS SIGNS A LEASE, THEN IT'S TOO LATE FOR US TO CORRECT TO SAY IT'S ILLEGAL. SO WE COULD ALWAYS SAY IT'S ILLEGAL AND THEN CHANGE OUR MINDS AND CHANGE, YOU KNOW, CHANGE OUR LIVES. I'M JUST SAYING THERE'S ALREADY THERE ALREADY ARE LAYERS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY THAT PREVENT THAT USE. SO HOW QUICKLY SHOULD WE OR DO WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING HERE? I MEAN, IS THAT SOMETHING WE CAN HAVE LEGISLATION FOR THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING IF YOU'D LIKE IT BE EXPEDITED? FAIRLY SIMPLE CHANGES COULD BE EXPEDITED. OR IS THERE A REASON TO EXPEDITE? OH, IT'S PRETTY EASY TO PUT TOGETHER. SO NEXT COUNCIL SESSION WE CAN I THINK HE'S WONDERING CAN WE DO IT. VOTE ON IT. EMERGENCY. WHAT'S THAT. I THINK HE'S ASKING IF WE CAN PASS IT ON AN EMERGENCY. AN EMERGENCY I THINK. YEAH I WOULD RECOMMEND IS THERE A YEAH. IS THERE A TIMING ISSUE TONIGHT. YEAH. I MEAN CAN WE DO IT TONIGHT? I MEAN I, I DO IF YOU DO IT TONIGHT, IF WE COULD I MEAN I THINK WE HAVE THE PROPOSED LANGUAGE. OH IF YOU HAVE THE PROPOSED LANGUAGE YOU PROBABLY. YEAH. OKAY. BUT DON'T WE HAVE TO HAVE LIKE NOTICE, PUBLIC NOTICE. YEAH WE DIDN'T HAVE IT IN OUR IT WASN'T ON THE AGENDA. SO WE'RE MAKING SURE THAT'S TRUE. YEAH. THAT'S OKAY. YOU CAN GIVE US DIRECTION. WE'LL GIVE YOU LEGISLATION TO WRITE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING WILL YEAH. PUT IT ON THE AGENDA SO THAT THAT'S FAIR SO THE PUBLIC CAN BE AWARE AND THEN COUNCIL CAN DETERMINE, BASED ON THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE WHETHER OR NOT AN EMERGENCY WOULD BE APPROPRIATE AFTER VOTING ON THAT, WE CAN CONSIDER THE ORDINANCE. IT SOUNDS LIKE A PLAN. OKAY I CAME TONIGHT, MAN. YOU'RE DOING GOOD. I'M GLAD I CAME TONIGHT AS WELL. READY TO GO HOME NOW? GLAD IT WAS A SHOR, SHORT MEETING. ALRIGHT. ANYTHING ELSE? FOR THE GOOD OF THE GROUP, MR. KISS, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? I MOVE THAT WE ADJOURN SECOND AT 9:27 P.M. AND TWO? YES, WE ARE ADJOURNING AT 927. GOOD NIGHT. ALL GOOD NIGHT. SWAGGER. YEAH.* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.