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DO WE TECHNICALLY HAVE A PHONE? OKAY. GOOD EVENING, I'M GOING TO CALL TO ORDER THE JULY 17TH, 2024 SPECIAL MEETING OF THE NEW ALBANY SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD. IS THIS COMING THROUGH THE MASK? OKAY. OKAY, AT. WE'LL CALL IT 630. CAN STAFF PLEASE READ ROLL CALL? NO MR. SCHUMACHER HERE, MISS GAIL GALLO. SORRY HERE. MR. BARNES IS NOT HERE YET. MR. CONWAY. MISS SCOTT. COUNCIL MEMBER. C'EST HERE. AND, MR. AFFILIATE AND MISS KELLERMAN ARE ABSENT. BUT
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WE DO HAVE A QUORUM. GREAT. THANK YOU, WE'LL ADD TO THE AGENDA THE SWEARING OF OUR NEW MEMBER STAFF. AND I SOLEMNLY SWEAR THAT I SUPPORT THAT CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION AND THE STATE OF OHIO. AND THAT FURTHERMORE, I WILL UPHOLD WORKS AND PROVISIONS OF THE OPEN PUBLIC. AND FAITHFULLY DISCHARGE THE DUTIES OF. CHARGE.FULL DISCLOSURE I MUTTERED MY WAY THROUGH THAT THE SAME DAY, AND. ALL RIGHT. OUR NEXT ITEM IS
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THE ACTION OF MINUTES. THE FIRST ITEM FROM MAY 8TH. SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD MEETINGS. DO ANY BOARD MEMBERS HAVE CORRECTIONS TO THE MINUTES? I FOUND ONE THAT WAS JUST A TYPO. PAGE THREE, ITEM THREE, MR. CONWAY, A QUESTION ABOUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT WAS, AND YOU HAD TO REPLY, AND YOU PUT, SUED RATHER THAN USED. I PUT SUED RATHER THAN USED. OKAY OR MY DYSLEXIC READING. BUT IT IS. YEAH. I LOOKED AT THREE TIMES. I PROMISE. I DON'T THINK IT WOULD TAKE IT TO TASK, BUT THERE YOU GO. ANY OTHER. CORRECTIONS OR. OKAY. I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE MINUTES. SECOND. ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS TO THE CORRECTION? OH, SORRY, WE HAVE A MOTION. I DID APPROVE THAT. SO WE HAVE A I MADE A MOTION. THAT'S ALL RIGHT. OKAY, THAT'S OKAY. MR. SCHUMACHER. YES, MISS GALLO? YES MR. CONWAY? YES, MISS SCOTT? YES. MOTION PASSES.[IV. Additions or Corrections to Agenda]
GREAT, DO WE HAVE ANY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS TO THE AGENDA FROM STAFF, JUST TO FORMALLY INTRODUCE MOLLY SCOTT AND WELCOME HER TO THE BOARD. YEAH ITEM FIVE, HEARING OF VISITORS FOR ITEMS NOT ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA. NOW'S THE TIME FOR ANYONE WHO IS NOT ON THE AGENDA[VII. Business]
TO COME FORTH. ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK THIS EVENING. THANK YOU. SEEING NONE, WE'LL MOVE ON TO TONIGHT'S ITEMS OF BUSINESS. OKAY. THANK YOU. CHAIR. MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, OUR FIRST ITEM OF BUSINESS IS THE NATIVE LANDSCAPING DISCUSSION. AND THIS ITEM IS MEANT TO BE A TWO PART SERIES. TONIGHT, WE WANT TO DO THE EDUCATION PIECE AND THEN WHEN WE CONVENE, HOPEFULLY NEXT MONTH, WE WILL DO, A MORE IN DEPTH DISCUSSION BASED ON WHAT WE HAVE LEARNED AND HOW THE BOARD WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS, ACTION ITEM, WE DO HAVE MKCSBK HERE WITH US THIS EVENING. I'M GOING TO GIVE A BRIEF INTRODUCTION TO NATIVE LANDSCAPING AND JUST SOME THINGS THAT THE CITY IS ALREADY DOING WITH THIS REGARD. AND THEN, MATT KELLOGG WITH MXQ IS GOING TO GIVE A MORE IN DEPTH PRESENTATION ON THE SUBJECT MATTER. SO NATIVE LANDSCAPING, YOU KNOW, IS, WHAT IS NATIVE LANDSCAPING? IT KIND OF IS A BROAD TERM. AND WE WILL GO THROUGH SOME OF THE BENEFITS. ONE OF THE COMPONENTS OF NATIVE LANDSCAPING IS WILDFLOWERS, BUT[00:05:08]
ALL NATIVE LANDSCAPING, INCLUDING TREES, HELPS WITH THE POLLINATOR SUPPORT, HABITAT CREATION, SOUL ENRICHMENT, AND THE WATER CYCLE REGULATION. NATIVE WILDFLOWERS SUPPORT THE ECOSYSTEM. THEY, PROVIDE BIODIVERSITY AND EROSION CONTROL AND, DIFFERENT OTHER BENEFITS FOR, FOOD RESOURCES FOR, WILDLIFE IN THE AREA. BLESS YOU. THANK YOU, THIS PICTURE, SHOWS A NEW SIGN OUT AT TAYLOR FARM JUST INDICATING THAT IT IS A, NATIVE PLANT HABITAT AREA. AND OUR NEW PARK. IN ADDITION TO TAYLOR FARM PARK, ONE OF THE OTHER AREAS OF THE CITY WITH REGARD TO, NATIVE LANDSCAPING IS OUR TECHNOLOGY MANUFACTURING DISTRICT. THE ZONING CODE REQUIRES, LANDSCAPE DESIGN STANDARDS BE MET FOR ANY DEVELOPMENT IN THIS ZONING DISTRICT, WHICH, IS THE AREA THAT INCLUDES INTEL AND ITS SUPPLIERS AND THE BLUE BOX UP THERE ON THE SCREEN, THE LANDSCAPE DESIGN STANDARDS FOR THIS ZONING DISTRICT, LISTS PRE-APPROVED LANDSCAPING MATERIALS SUCH AS TREES, SHRUBS, SEED MIX AND OTHER NATIVE SPECIES, INTEL AND OTHER DEVELOPMENTS WITHIN THE ZONING DISTRICT ARE REQUIRED TO MEET THESE STANDARDS, AS WELL AS PLANT NATIVE TREES AND SHRUBS. ONE PROGRAM THAT THE BOARD IS AWARE OF THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON, HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE GETTING LAUNCHED IN SEPTEMBER. IS THE NEW ALBANY INVASIVE TRADE IN PROGRAM, NOT TRADE IN. IT'S TRADE IN. AND THIS IS GOING TO BE A PILOT PROGRAM THAT WILL BE INTEGRATED INTO NEW ALBANY'S EXISTING COMMUNITY BACKYARD REBATE PROGRAM WITH THE EXISTING PROGRAM, RESIDENTS TAKE A COURSE ONLINE OR IN PERSON AND RECEIVE A $100 REBATE. THERE'S A FLIER AT YOUR SEAT EXPLAINING A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT. THE NEW INVASIVE TRADE IN PROGRAM RESIDENTS WILL, PROVIDE EVIDENCE OF REMOVAL OF INVASIVE SPECIES OR PLANTS ON THEIR PROPERTY AND RECEIVE A $150 REBATE. RESIDENTS ARE NOT LIMITED TO, PARTICIPATING IN ONE OR THE OTHER. AND IF THEY PARTICIPATE IN BOTH, THEY WOULD ESSENTIALLY RECEIVE UP TO $250, WHICH WOULD BE USED TO PURCHASE THE NATIVE LANDSCAPING TO PLANT ON THEIR PROPERTY. THAT REPLACES THE, INVASIVE SPECIES THAT THEY'VE REMOVED, SO RIGHT NOW, THE PLAN IS TO ROLL THIS OUT IN MID SEPTEMBER. SO WE WILL START PROMOTING THE PROGRAM IN THE MIDDLE OF AUGUST. AND THE REBATE WORKS AT ANY LOCAL STORE OR NURSERY, AND THE RESIDENTS CAN PURCHASE THOSE PLANTS WITH THAT REBATE. SO THAT'S, ONE THING THAT WE HAVE GETTING READY TO GO THIS YEAR WITH REGARD TO THIS TOPIC, SOME OTHER THINGS THAT WERE PROVIDED TO US FROM THE SERVICE DEPARTMENT. IS THE CITY MOWING MAPS, THE CITY DOES CONTRACT OUT THE MOWING TO ROCKY FORK AND THAT CONTRACT IS APPROXIMATELY $300,000 ANNUALLY. SO THIS MAP SHOWS AREAS OF MOWING. AND THEN A SECOND AREA, FOR, THE PARKS. AND WITH THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO TURN IT OVER TO MATT KELLOGG WITH MXQ. THANK YO.OKAY. I'M WITH MXQ, THANKS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE A LITTLE BIT OF SOME OF OUR
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EXPERIENCE, DEALING SPECIFICALLY WITH NATIVE LANDSCAPING. SO WHAT? I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT, AND FEEL FREE TO INTERRUPT. AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH THIS AND, I WANT THIS TO BE MORE CONVERSATIONAL, UNLESS ME PRESENTING TO YOU GUYS, IS A LITTLE BIT OF BUILDING ON THE STEWARDSHIP THAT YOU GUYS ALREADY HAVE IN THE CITY, A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR PROJECT EXPERIENCES. AND THEN ALSO LOOK AT WHAT SOME OF THOSE OPPORTUNITIES MAY BE WITHIN THE CITY, BUILDING ON WHAT YOU GUYS ALREADY DO. SO THE FOUNDING PILLARS YOU GUYS HAVE IS REALLY LEADING TO STEWARDSHIP, YOU'RE BUILDING A COMMUNITY OF STEWARDS, BUILDING FUTURE GENERATION OF STEWARDS, ALL OF THE PILLARS SORT OF LEAD BACK TO ENVIRONMENTAL SUSTAINABILITY, THROUGH NEW ALBANY, LOCAL PLANES, SCHOOLS, AND THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT KIDS HAVE TO ENGAGE WITH THE ENVIRONMENT, LEARN WHAT THEIR IMPACT IS, AND SORT OF UNDERSTAND WHAT A FUTURE MAY BE THAT IS BENEFICIAL TO BUILDING BETTER COMMUNITIES, THROUGH BUILDING PARKS, BEAUTIFUL PARKS FOR THE FOR THE RESIDENTS, NEW ALBANY NATURE PRESERVE, ROSELAND PARK, TAYLOR FARM PARK, FUTURE, KITZMILLER PARK, PROVIDING THOSE OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE TO RIDE THEIR BIKES TO THOSE LOCATIONS AND THEN IMMERSE THEMSELVES IN NATURAL ENVIRONMENTS, AND THEN THROUGH THE ENVIRONMENTAL SUSTAINABILITY, THROUGH THE WORK THAT YOU GUYS DO, WITH STREAM RESTORATION, THE CITY HAS INVESTED IN STREAM RESTORATION ALONG ROSE RUN, AND A COUPLE OF OTHER PLACES, THROUGH THE INVASIVE SPECIES MANAGEMENT, THAT THE CITY CURRENTLY UNDERTAKES, SOME OF WHICH IS, UP TO, UP TO THIS YEAR, HAS, MANAGED INVASIVE ON 48 ACRES OF CITY OWNED PROPERTY, 23. SO THE CANOPY COVERAGE THIS IS FROM, THE TREE EQUITY SCORE ANALYZER, WHICH IS PART OF THE URBAN FORESTRY MASTER PLAN THAT THE CITY OF COLUMBUS JUST COMPLETED.SO THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY ACTUALLY HAS A CANOPY COVER OF 23, WHICH IS GROWING BECAUSE THE TREE THE CITY DOES PLANT ADDITIONAL TREES EVERY YEAR, AND THOSE TREES ARE MATURING, THE GOAL FOR THE STATE OF OHIO, ON AVERAGE, IS TO HAVE A TREE CANOPY COVER OF 40 TO 60. SO ON AVERAGE, THE STATE OF OHIO, URBAN AREAS, URBAN, URBAN FOREST AREAS HAVE ON AVERAGE ABOUT 45.
SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT LOWER THAN SORT OF AN AVERAGE URBAN AREA, BUT IT IS INCREASING BECAUSE A LOT OF THE PLANTING THIS WAS PREVIOUSLY AGRARIAN, LAND. SO A LOT OF THE TREES ARE STILL GROWING. AND THEN CURRENTLY THE CITY MAINTAINS ABOUT FOUR, 25,000 TREES. SO THAT'S ABOUT 7% OF THE CANOPY THAT EXISTS IN THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY IS MANAGED BY THE CITY, AND THEN PLUS OR MINUS, DEPENDING ON HOW MANY PROJECTS ARE OR WHAT KIND OF PROJECTS GOING ON STREETSCAPE OR PARK, THE CITY DOES PLANT 90 TO 150 TREES EVERY YEAR, ON AN ANNUAL BASIS, SO A LITTLE BIT ABOUT CASCADES. THESE THE PROJECT EXAMPLES ARE GOING TO COME FROM CENTRAL OHIO, BUT ALSO SOME OTHER LOCATIONS, WASHINGTON DC AND GREENVILLE. WERE A COLLECTION OF OFFICES, AND WE SHARE SORT OF OUR COLLECTION OF, OF KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE, SORT OF FROM A DIVERSE RANGE OF PROJECTS, SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE DONE RECENTLY IS DEVELOP AN MKS COLLAB ON CLIMATE AND, BIODIVERSITY RESILIENCE, SO WHAT THIS IS REALLY TRYING TO DO IS TO BUILD FOR US A WELL-ROUNDED STORY TO, AS WE OR LENS THAT WE DESIGN THAT DESIGN THROUGH, WHICH HAS A LOT TO DO WITH, URBAN DEVELOPMENT. AND SORT OF THE DENSITY THAT WE SUGGEST. AND HOW TO BUILD BETTER COMMUNITIES.
BUT THEN IT ALSO SORT OF GETS DOWN TO THE THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT SPECIFICALLY TODAY, WHICH IS TO MAKE GREENER URBAN COMMUNITIES PROTECT AND, MANAGE WATER RESOURCES, PROTECT AND MANAGE, NATURAL SYSTEMS, AND THEN PLAN FOR RESILIENCY AS THINGS CHANGE, AS WE, AS WE BUILD AND SORT OF MORE, IMPACTFUL AREAS SUCH AS FLOOD PLAINS, HOW DO WE BUILD THOSE SO THAT IN 50 YEARS THEY'RE STILL AROUND THE CITY? STILL, STILL LOVE. AND THE RESIDENTS STILL LOVE AND MAINTAIN THESE PLACES, SO THIS FIRST ONE IS TWO EXAMPLES FROM DOWNTOWN COLUMBUS,
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MANAGED BY TWO DIFFERENT AGENCIES, SO THE FIRST ONE IS OUT OF AUDUBON METRO PARK, WHICH IS MANAGED BY METRO PARKS, AND THEN THE SECOND ONE IS THE SITE OF GREENWAYS, WHICH IS MANAGED BY THE CITY OF COLUMBUS PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT, SO THIS FIRST ONE IS SORT OF, THE TENSION OF RESTORATION AND RECREATION, THERE IS A LOT OF UNMOWN AREAS OR NATURALIZED AREAS, THE BUT METRO PARKS HAS GONE THROUGH SPECIFICALLY AND COLLECTED SEEDS FROM OTHER METRO PARKS AND REPLANTED THEM, AT THE SITE OF AUDUBON. SO THERE IS QUITE A BIT OF ACTIVE MANAGEMENT THAT HAPPENS AT THE SITE OF AUDUBON BY METRO PARK STAFF. THE NEXT ONE IS THE SET OF MILE, WHICH, WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WAYS TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF LAWN, SO IF THIS PROJECT WOULD HAVE BEEN BUILT IN THE MID 90S OR EVEN EARLY 2000, THE GRASS PROBABLY WOULD HAVE LAWN WOULD HAVE GONE ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE RIVER, AND IT WAS ACTUALLY A REQUEST THAT THE LAWN GO DOWN TO THE RIVER, SO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THE BIG WIN IS GETTING SOME BANK STABILIZATION. THAT WASN'T LAWN, ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE RIVER. AND PLANTING THAT WITH NATIVE AND ADAPTABLE PLANTS FLOODING.THIS IS, THIS IS ALL IN A FLOODPLAIN, AND ALL THE PLANTING IS, IS WITHIN THE FLOODWAY. SO IT IS SUBJECT TO ANNUAL FLOODING COVERING THOSE PLANTS ENTIRELY, THE CHALLENGE HAS BEEN IT IS A DIFFERENT MANAGEMENT STAFF THAN WHAT METRO PARKS HAS. SO FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, THEY, THEY ARE NOT TRAINED AND THEY WILL ACTIVELY SAY THEY ARE GOOD AT MOWING GRASS, NOT AT MANAGING NATURAL ENVIRONMENTS. SO THE CHALLENGE HAS BEEN UNDERSTANDING HOW TO MANAGE THAT, THEIR SORT OF TACT. OF MANAGEMENT WAS TO JUST LEAVE IT. AND THEN IF SOMETHING HAPPENED THEN, THEN MAYBE FIGURE IT OUT, THEN, SO THERE'S QUITE A FEW, IF YOU WALK ALONG THE RIVER RIGHT NOW, THERE'S QUITE A FEW INVASIVE SPECIES THAT, HAVE BEEN POPPING UP IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, BECAUSE THERE IS NO ACTIVE MANAGEMENT THAT'S GOING ON, THIS NEXT ONE IS, PARKWAY ECOTONES.
SO THIS WAS, FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION LOOKING AT HOW TO, GREEN REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF MOWING AND, INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF BIODIVERSITY THAT WOULD HAPPEN THAT WOULD OCCUR ON SORT OF THESE ACCESS ROADS TO THE FREEWAY SYSTEM AS IT ENTERS WASHINGTON, DC. SO THIS WAS REALLY LOOKING AT THE NUMBER OF PLANT TYPES AND COMMUNITIES THAT COULD BE DEVELOPED, AND HOW THEY ULTIMATELY SUPPORT SORT OF AN ECOLOGICAL COMMUNITY, LONG TERM AS THESE THINGS BEGIN TO DEVELOP AND MATURE. THIS IS IN THE PROCESS OF BEING DEVELOPED, BUT THIS ALSO IS A PROJECT THAT TAKES ACTIVE MANAGEMENT AND A CLIENT, THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, THAT WAS WILLING TO INVEST INTO SORT OF THAT NEAR TERM LONG TERM MANAGEMENT, AND THEN THIS LAST ONE IS, UNITY PARK IN GREENVILLE. SO THIS IS A PARK WITHIN FLOODPLAIN, SO THERE IS, IT IS A PRETTY ACTIVE PARK.
SO THERE IS QUITE A BIT OF LAWN, BUT A LOT OF THIS, A LOT OF THIS WAS SORT OF SURROUNDING AND BUILDING A BETTER, RIPARIAN AREA FOR THE RIVER. IT HAD BEEN CHANNELIZED OVER TIME, AND A LARGELY INDUSTRIAL NEIGHBORHOOD, AND SO THE OPPORTUNITY OF THE PROJECT WAS TO SORT OF PEEL ITS FLOODPLAIN BACK, OR PEEL THE EMBANKMENTS BACK TO INCREASE THE FLOODPLAIN AND NATURAL AREA, FOR THE RIVER TO SORT OF EXIST WITHIN, SO THIS IS, SHORTLY AFTER THE PARK OPENED, THIS IS DURING A FLOOD AND THEN 24 HOURS LATER. SO THE ENTIRE PARK, ALL 62 ACRES IS WITHIN THE FLOODPLAIN. PRETTY ACTIVE FLOODPLAIN, INCLUDING SOME OF THE BUILDINGS. THE BUILDINGS ARE SET UP A LITTLE BIT HIGHER SO THEY DON'T FLOOD, BUT THIS IS, A PRETTY INTENTIONAL FOCUS AT PROVIDING PLANTS THAT ARE SORT OF RESILIENT TO THAT CONDITION OF FLOODING. THAT HAPPENS OVER TIME, BUT THEN ALSO BUILDING IN A MAINTENANCE PLAN FOR THE CITY OF GREENVILLE SO THAT THEY KNOW HOW TO MANAGE THE SPACE, AS IT CONTINUES TO CHANGE AND GROW, AND SORT OF OTHER THINGS ARE INTRODUCED, INVASIVE SPECIES ARE INTRODUCED FROM UPSTREAM OR SORT OF THE SURROUNDING AREAS. HOW THE CITY CAN MANAGE THIS, HOW THEY DEAL WITH FLOODING, AND HOW THEY HOW THEY FIGURE OUT HOW TO
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KEEP THIS, AS A VALUED RESOURCE FOR THE COMMUNITY. YOU JUST GIVE US A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES OF, LIKE, WHAT TYPES OF PLANTS ARE YOU PUTTING IN THAT FLOODPLAIN? I'M JUST CURIOUS, SO A LOT OF IT. SO IT'S A MIX OF, SEDGES, GRASSES, FORBS, WHICH ARE JUST FLOWERING PERENNIALS AND SHRUBS.THE SHRUBS ARE SUPER CRITICAL FOR KEEPING, THE SOIL IN PLACE. THEY HAVE A DEEPER, AND MORE, RESILIENT ROOT SYSTEM, SO A LOT OF I'M NOT AS FAMILIAR. THIS IS SOUTH CAROLINA, SO THEY'RE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. BUT A LOT OF THE PLANTS THAT WE TYPICALLY USE ARE BUTTONBUSH, OR DOGWOODS, OR SWAMP ROSE. IS THAT STREAM CHANNEL GOING TO MEANDER OVER TIME? THAT LOOKS PRETTY STRAIGH.
YEAH. SO THERE WERE THE THERE WERE A COUPLE OF ISSUES WITH THIS ONE, THERE'S A LOT OF UTILITIES. SO THE STREAM CHANNEL IN THIS PORTION IS STRAIGHT UP, BECAUSE THE MAIN SANITARY LINE FOR THE CITY RUNS ALONG ONE SIDE OF IT. AND THE OTHER SIDE IS HEAVILY CONTAMINATED. SO IN, YES, THIS GOOD REASONS TO BE STRAIGHT. WHAT THE. YES. YEAH. THIS PORTION OF THE OF THE RIVER IS STRAIGHT, THERE IS WORK GOING ON DOWNSTREAM THAT MEANDERS IT. QUITE A BIT. AND SO, LIKE, THROUGH THROUGH THIS LENS OF PROJECT WORK THAT WE DO, THERE'S SORT OF THREE CATEGORIES THAT, WE ASK QUESTIONS AT THE BEGINNING OF PROJECTS, AND WE ALSO SORT OF LOOK THROUGH THE LENS AS WE CONTINUE TO DO THIS WORK. AND, AND EVEN AFTER A PROJECT IS COMPLETED, THE FIRST ONE BEING PERCEPTION, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, THE GREENWAYS IN THE EARLY 2000 PROBABLY WOULD HAVE BEEN GRASS ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE RIVER. SO THE PERCEPTION OF WHAT NATIVE LANDSCAPING IS OR HOW ACCEPTABLE IT IS, IS CHANGING, BUT IT IS STILL AN ISSUE. THAT IS ABOUT ESTHETICS, IT'S ABOUT COMMUNICATION, MAKING SURE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON, AND THEN ALSO SORT OF EXPLAINING WHY, WHAT'S THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS, BUT REALLY THE ESTHETIC IS THE BIGGEST PIECE THAT IS REALLY HARD FOR PEOPLE TO SORT OF MOVE BEYOND, AND EVEN FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, IF, IF YOU WOULD, IF WE WERE STANDING HERE WITH AN ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANT, AND, AND US, THEY WOULD SAY THERE IS PROBABLY, A LITTLE TOO FOCUSED ON THE ESTHETICS AND NOT ON THE ENVIRONMENT BECAUSE WE UNDERSTAND THE IMPACT THAT HAPPENS AT THE END OF THE DAY WITH CLIENTS THAT, PEOPLE ARE UNHAPPY WITH NATURAL AREAS OR UNMOWN AREAS OR NATURALIZED MEADOWS. BECAUSE THE PERCEPTION OR THE IT'S NOT FULLY COMMUNICATED, OR PEOPLE JUST HAVE A DIFFERENT EXPECTATION OF HAVING A MOMENT AND OR IT FEELING UNSAFE OR UNKEPT OR, A NUMBER OF THINGS, SO WE, WE FOCUS PRETTY DILIGENTLY ON SELECTING SPECIES THAT ARE MEET BOTH SORT OF A FUNCTIONAL, REQUIREMENT OF STABILIZATION AND, PERSEVERANCE, BUT ALSO THE ESTHETIC OF IT'S NOT GOING TO BE, A, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A TALL GRASS MEADOW OR A TALL GRASS PRAIRIE THAT'S 6 TO 8FT TALL AND ESSENTIALLY BECOMES JUST A BLOCK, AS YOU AS YOU LOOK INTO THE PRAIRIE OR SORT OF A WALL. THE NEXT ONE IS THE CONTRACTOR. THIS IS THIS IS PROBABLY THE HARDEST PART FOR US. WE'RE NOT IN CONTROL OF THE CONTRACT. WE AREN'T IN CONTROL OF THE CONTRACTOR, SO GETTING FROM OUR IDEAS TO REALITY IS THROUGH THE CONTRACTOR. AND THERE ARE A WHOLE HOST OF ISSUES, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE THESE PROJECTS ARE ALWAYS TIED TO SOMETHING ELSE. THEY'RE ALWAYS TIED TO A ROADWAY PROJECT OR A LARGER PARK PROJECT, AND IT'S ALWAYS DRIVEN BY SCHEDULE. SO ONE DOES MOST OF THE PLANTING HAPPEN? IT HAPPENS IN LIKE THE MIDDLE OF JULY. AND SO NOTHING'S REALLY GROWING OR THE SEA OR IT'S IN LATE DECEMBER OR LATE LATE DECEMBER. AND SO MOST OF THE SEED DISAPPEARS. THROUGH WILDLIFE, AND THEN THESE CONTRACTORS MOSTLY ARE ALSO HORTICULTURALISTS. SO THEY'RE NOT TRAINED IN ESTABLISHING A MEADOW. THEY'RE NOT TRAINED IN UNDERSTANDING HOW IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE PLANTED, WHAT THE HOW THAT REFLECTS IN TIMING, AND THEN THEY'RE ALSO DETACHED FROM THE EXPECTATIONS. THEIR JOB IS TO GET SOMETHING IN THE GROUND AND THEN THEY'RE DONE. AND SO RESPONSIBILITY BECOMES A BIG
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PIECE OF THAT, TOO, WE, WE TRY TO ASSIGN RESPONSIBILITY LONG TERM, BUT IT BECOMES AN ISSUE BECAUSE MOST OF THESE ARE TIED TO OTHER CONTRACTS, AND THE CONTRACTS END WHEN AT SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION. AND THERE'S AT SOME POINT THERE'S FATIGUE AND PEOPLE STOP CARING AFTER A COUPLE OF YEARS. AND THE CONTRACTOR IS AWAY. AND, AND THEN THE MEADOW OR OTHER NATIVE AREA IS SORT OF RECLAIMED BY NATURE, WITH INVASIVES OR FAST GROWING PLANTS THAT SORT OF OUTCOMPETE EVERYTHING ELSE, SO IT BECOMES IT THEN BECOMES AN OWNER ISSUE, AT THE END OF THE DAY, BECAUSE THERE'S NO VERY SPECIFIC SOURCE OF RESPONSIBILITY, THAT IS ATTACHED TO THE OUTCOME, WHICH IS LIKE A 3 TO 5 YEAR OUTCOME, AND THEN THE LAST ONE IS THE PROCESS, WHICH FOR US IS MORE ABOUT MAINTENANCE, BECAUSE AS I WAS SAYING, THAT PROCESS FROM WHEN YOU INSTALL SEED OR PLANTS OR PLUGS OR LIVE STICKS IS 3 TO 5 YEARS, FOR EXAMPLE, THE TAYLOR FARM PARK, WETLAND MITIGATION PROJECT HAS A TEN YEAR MAINTENANCE REQUIREMENT, TO GET IT TO ESTABLISH SUCCESSFULLY THAT IS A LOT OF COMMITMENT. THAT'S A LOT OF TIME. THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY, THAT IS SOMETIMES HARD TO UNDERSTAND AND SWALLOW AT THE FRONT END BECAUSE THERE'S CAPITAL COST AND SORT OF A LONG TERM COST, AND THEN AGAIN, IT'S RESPONSIBILITY. WHO IS RESPONSIBLE, AND CAN WE ALL CAN WE GET ALL THOSE PARTS AND PIECES MERGED TOGETHER TO, TO REACH A SUCCESSFUL OUTCOME WITH UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE DURATION IS, WHAT THE COST IS, AND THEN ULTIMATELY, WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT? SO FROM US, WHAT ARE THE OPPORTUNITIES? WHAT ARE THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE SEE IN NEW ALBANY, SO THIS IS NOT AN EXHAUSTIVE LIST, THIS IS MAYBE SOME LOW HANGING FRUIT, THAT IS MAYBE A LITTLE BIT, DEPARTING FROM NATIVE LANDSCAPING, BUT IT'S A PLACE THAT WE SEE, AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO START. SO MAYBE IT'S CIVIC AND CITIZEN AND I DID NOT KNOW ABOUT THE, THE INVASIVE TRADING PROGRAM, WHICH IS AMAZING, THAT'S A GREAT A GREAT START. AND SOMETHING THAT WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, AS WELL, I THINK THAT'S THAT'S AMAZING. SO IT'S THE CIVIC, IT'S THE CITY DOING THIS. BUT ALSO HOW DO YOU ENGAGE RESIDENTS, IN, IN SOME OF THIS AS WELL, SO THESE ARE SOME EXAMPLES OF SOME WORK THAT WE'VE DONE. THIS WAS WITH ODNR, WE WERE WORKING TO, MOW LESS LAWN, THEIR GOAL WAS TO JUST MOW LESS. THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANT. THEY JUST WANTED TO MOW LESS LAWN. SO WE SET THE GOAL OF, LIKE, IF YOU CAN REDUCE IT, LIKE, 20, THEN ODNR HAS A LOT OF PROPERTY, AND THEY KNOW A LOT OF STUFF, SO THEIR SORT OF METRIC OF LIKE REDUCING 5% WAS LIKE $3 MILLION IN ANNUAL COST. SO OUR TASK WAS TO HELP THEM UNDERSTAND HOW TO MOW LESS BECAUSE WHAT THEY WOULD DO WAS JUST LIKE, DRAW A LINE AROUND SOMETHING AND SAY, WE'RE GOING TO STOP DOING THAT. AND OFTENTIMES THOSE WEREN'T REALLY GREAT ENVIRONMENTS FOR PLANTS TO BE GROWING BECAUSE THEY WOULD PUT A COUPLE OF INCHES OF TOPSOIL BACK ON AFTER A PROJECT WAS COMPLETED. AND SO THE SOIL WAS REALLY DEPLETED OF ANY NUTRIENTS. AND MOWING GRASS OVER TIME DOESN'T REALLY ADD BACK TO THAT, SO THEY WOULD JUST LET AREAS GO, AND THEN THEY WOULD LARGELY BE INVASIVES FROM CALLERY, PEAR OR AUTUMN OLIVE OR, OR HONEYSUCKLE, OVER THE NEXT 5 TO 10 YEARS, SO WE WERE HELPING THEM TO DEFINE SORT OF THE ESTHETIC OF WHAT AN UNMOWN AREA IS. SO IF YOU JUST LET THEM LIKE IF YOU STOP MOWING AN AREA, IT LOOKS LIKE YOU JUST STOPPED MOWING AN AREA AND MOWER BROKE, SO HOW DO YOU MAKE IT FEEL? PURPOSEFUL. HOW DO MAKE IT FEEL INTENTIONAL SO THAT YOU'RE COMMUNICATING THAT VISUALLY? AND THEN MAYBE THERE'S ALSO SOME SIGNS THAT GO ALONG WITH THIS AS WELL TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT HOW DO YOU SORT OF MAKE IT FEEL PURPOSEFUL AND DESIGNED, THE NEXT ONE IS OSU, SO THEY ACTUALLY HAVE, A DIRECTIVE FROM THEIR SORT OF SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD, TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF LAWN BEING MOWN ON THE UNIVERSITY CAMPUS BY 5. AND TO REPLACE IT WITH MEADOW OR WETLANDS OR SOMETHING EQUIVALENT TO THAT. SO THIS IS A REALLY EASY FIRST STEP AND A LOT SOME A THING THAT WE DO ON A LOT OF PROJECTS THAT WANT, WANT MOW, MOW. BUT THERE[00:30:05]
MAY NOT BE THE ABILITY TO, OR BUDGET OR APPETITE TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF ESTABLISHING A NATIVE HABITAT OR INSTALLING SORT OF A VERY SPECIFIC AND SELECTED NO MOW MIX, THIS IS ACTUALLY THIS LAWN. THEY JUST STOPPED MOWING THAT AREA OF LAWN. AND WE THINK IT LOOKS BEAUTIFUL, BECAUSE I WOULD SAY IT LOOKS LIKE THE COUNTRY CLUB, IT'S AN AREA THAT CAN BE SORT OF IT'S AN ESTHETIC THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND AND CAN, CAN EXPECT. BUT THEN IF THERE'S AN ISSUE, YOU CAN JUST MOW IT, AND IT SORT OF RETURNS BACK TO PEOPLE'S EXPECTATIONS, SO THIS IS THIS IS A STRATEGY THAT WE HAVE USED ON, PROJECTS WHERE THERE'S MAYBE NOT APPETITE TO GO THROUGH THE ESTABLISHMENT PERIOD OF, NATIVE LANDSCAPING, OR THEY WANT TO TEST AN IDEA AND SEE IF IT WORKS, AN EASY WAY IS TO JUST STOP MOWING YOUR GRASS. IT DOES COME WITH SOME CAVEATS OF YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT GRASS YOU HAVE THERE. AND IT'S NOT JUST A LOT OF OTHER STUFF AND SOME STUFF. SOME STUFF WILL GET LIKE SIX FEET TALL. AND, AND IT'S BUT IT'S ALSO A WAY TO, MANAGE INVASIVE SPECIES BECAUSE AS TIME GOES ON, YOU'LL END UP WITH, WITH OTHER THINGS IN HERE, AND YOU CAN EASILY MOW IT DOWN AND CLEAN THOSE OUT OR USE SELECTIVE HERBICIDES AND SORT OF CONTROL THOSE. THIS NEXT ONE IS, HAPPY TREES. WE LOVE WHEN TREES ARE HAPPY, WHICH IS REALLY ABOUT HEALTHY SOILS AND TREE PROTECTION. SO THIS IS A PHOTO FROM FROM THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY. IT'S NEAR THE COUNTRY CLUB. OF THE IMPACT THAT CONSTRUCTION HAS ON THE HEALTH OF SOILS AND THE HEALTH OF TREES, IT IS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IT BEFORE THIS STARTED.THE PERPETUAL, DIFFICULTY WE HAVE IN GETTING CONTRACTORS TO UNDERSTAND TREES ARE IMPORTANT AND NEED TO BE NEED TO BE PROTECTED, BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS IS IT RAINS, THEY DRIVE THROUGH THIS SOIL'S HEAVILY COMPACTED, AND THEN NOBODY REALLY EVER ADDRESSES ANYTHING. THEY SPRINKLE A LITTLE TOPSOIL ON TOP, AND THEN IT'S CONCRETE. IT'S ESSENTIALLY CONCRETE UNDERNEATH THAT, SO TREES ARE NOT GOING TO GROW, ONE OF THOSE PARTS AND PIECES IS PLANTING, SO WE FOCUS A LOT ON WHAT HAPPENS BELOW THE GROUND WHEN THE TREE IS PLANTED, THIS IS, ONE OF OUR DETAILS, CONSTRUCTION DETAILS, BUT FOR US, IT'S CRITICAL TO PROVIDE AT LEAST 12IN OF TOPSOIL WITH EVERY PROJECT. SO MOST OF OUR ENGINEERING PROJECTS, ROADWAY PROJECTS, IT'S, SCRAPE EVERYTHING OFF, PUT IN WHATEVER YOU FIND ON SITE, COMPACT IT UNTIL, TO 95% PROCTOR, WHICH IS PRETTY HARD, AND THEN PUT THREE INCHES OF TOPSOIL BACK ON SO THAT IT'LL GROW GRASS, IT DOESN'T WORK AS WELL FOR TREES, SO WHENEVER WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY, WE REALLY WORK HARD TO GET A MINIMUM OF 12IN OF SOIL. IF IT'S IN A TREE LAWN, BETWEEN A SIDEWALK AND A CURB, IT PROBABLY SHOULD BE MORE LIKE 18, BECAUSE THAT THE RESOURCES FOR THAT TREE TO TAP INTO LONG TERM ARE PRETTY LIMITED, ANOTHER ONE IS TO DO COMPACT SOILS BEFORE THE BEFORE TOP SOILS PUT IN. SO, ANOTHER CHALLENGE TO GET CONTRACTORS TO DO, BUT DO COMPACT THE SOIL SO THAT IT'S FREE, FREE DRAINING AND THERE'S A TRANSFER OF OXYGEN AND WATER, ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE SYSTEM, AND THEN ALSO OVER EXCAVATING THE SOIL. SO THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS ON HERE. WE WORK THROUGH THE CHALLENGES OF ALL OF THESE ON EVERY PROJECT, BUT IT'S REALLY KEY TO THE SUCCESS OF, THE SUCCESS OF TREES. SORRY. GETTING THE WEEDS HERE, NO PUN INTENDED, BUT HOW DO YOU DO COMPACT SOIL? I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT. YEAH. SO THERE'S A COUPLE OF WAYS. ONE OF THEM IS, YOU CAN USE A RIP, A RIPPER ON THE BACK OF A TRACTOR, ANOTHER WAY IS YOU CAN USE, A TRENCHER OR A VIBRATORY PLOW AND JUST CUT SLOTS IN THE SOIL, AND IT'S ENOUGH TO ALLOW WATER AND AIR TO PENETRATE, YOU DO THAT LIKE 18IN OR 24IN ON CENTER, ENOUGH TO GET WATER AND, AIR DOWN IN AND THEN AS THE FREEZE THAW CYCLE HAPPENS, OR ROOTS GET IN THERE, IT'LL SORT OF BREAK ITSELF UP OVER TIME. BUT JUST ALLOWING THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THINGS TO GET IN, IS HELPFUL. AND THEN CONSTRUCTION HAPPY TREES DON'T LIKE CONSTRUCTION, THIS IS, A PHOTO THAT, WE HAD ASKED FOR
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TREE PROTECTION, AND THEN FOUND A TRAILER PARK NEXT TO THE TREE AND ASKED THEM TO MOVE THE TREE OR MOVE THE TRAILER. AND THEY SAID, WELL, THEY'RE ALMOST DONE. IT'S LIKE, WELL, OKAY, YOU'RE SURE, SO TREE PROTECTION IS A IS A REALLY BIG THING. IT'S REALLY HARD. IT'S HARD TO GET CONTRACTORS TO COMMIT TO IT, BECAUSE YOU ALSO DON'T WANT TO BE OVERLY ONEROUS BECAUSE YOU WANT TO PROTECT YOUR TREES, BUT YOU ALSO WANT TO DO DEVELOPMENT. AND SO THERE'S A THERE'S A BALANCE, IN HOW YOU PROTECT TREES. AND REALLY WHAT THAT MEANS. BUT WHEN IT, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN GENERALLY FEASIBLE FOR THIS CONTRACTOR NOT TO, NOT TO PARK HIS TRAILER, SIX INCHES AWAY FROM THE TRUNK, AND THEN MAINTENANCE. MAINTENANCE IS THE LAST ONE, THAT SORT OF LEADS TO HAPPY TREES, AS WE PROBABLY ALL KNOW AND SEE, MULTIPLE VOLCANOES AND THE AMOUNT OF DAMAGE THAT HAPPENS FROM FROM MAINTENANCE. BUT IT'S, IT'S SORT OF ALL OF THESE PIECES AND PARTS. THESE LAST TWO ARE ABOUT COMMUNICATION. HOW DO YOU COMMUNICATE THIS TO PEOPLE THAT ARE BUILDING HOUSES OR BUILDING BUSINESSES? HOW DO YOU COMMUNICATE THIS TO THE PEOPLE THAT ARE MAINTAINING THESE PROPERTIES, MAINTAINING THE LAWN AROUND THESE TREES, SO THAT THESE CAN LEAD TO, SORT OF BUILDING THAT, HEALTHY URBAN FOREST AND INCREASING THE PERCENTAGE OF CANOPY COVER IN THE CITY, PROTECTING HEADWATERS. SO THIS IS, SOMETHING THAT WE'VE BEEN SORT OF TAPPING INTO AND LOOKING AT, AS A FIRM AND HOW WE APPROACH AND DEAL WITH WATER ON PROJECTS, SO THESE ARE ALL THE HEADWATERS, THAT RUN THROUGH THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY, WITH ROCKY FORK, BEING ON THE LEFT SIDE. OR THE WEST SIDE OF THE CITY, ITS HEADWATERS ARE ACTUALLY JUST NORTH OF THE CITY, SO WHY DOES IT MATTER, FROM OHIO EPA, CLEAN, CLEAN RIVER SPRING FROM THEIR SOURCE. SO REALLY, THE KEY TO HIGH A BETTER WATER QUALITY IS TO DO THAT AT THE SOURCE. IT'S NOT TREATING IT DOWNSTREAM. AND LIKE TRYING TO DEAL WITH IT IN A RIVER. IT'S SORT OF SMALL BITE SIZE PIECES, AND DOING IT AS MUCH AS YOU CAN, PROTECTING THOSE HEADWATERS THROUGH SEDIMENT REDUCTION, NUTRIENT REDUCTION, BUT ALSO PROVIDING WILDLIFE CORRIDORS. SO HOW DO YOU DO THAT, I THINK YOU GUYS ALREADY HAVE A LOT OF, A LOT OF THINGS, A LOT OF TOOLS THAT YOU USE, WHICH IS THE STREAM CORRIDOR PROTECTION ZONE, BUT ALSO THAT INVASIVE MANAGEMENT.CAN WE REDUCE THE AMOUNT? CAN WE, FOR BOTH THE CITY AND THE RESIDENTS? CAN WE REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF LAWN AND INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF RIPARIAN PLANTINGS NEXT TO THE STREAMS TO HELP PROTECT THEIR BANKS, AND REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF NUTRIENT LOADING THAT HAPPENS, AND THEN ALSO STREAM RESTORATION, CAN COMPLETING STREAM RESTORATION PROJECTS AS, AS IT MAKES SENSE, TO RESTORE NATURAL CHANNEL. AND THEN REDUCE THE THREAT. SO, I'M SURE WE'VE ALL DRIVEN AROUND COLUMBUS IN THE SPRING AND LOVE THE AMAZING FLOWERS OF PEARS EVERYWHERE, THEY ARE NOW OUTLAWED FOR SALE IN THE STATE OF OHIO, AND THEY ARE A REALLY LARGE THREAT, THE FIELD DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM THE POLICE STATION IS MOSTLY CALLERY PEAR, SO SORT OF PAIRING WITH THE INVASIVE PROGRAM THAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING WITH RESIDENTS, CONTINUING ON WITH THE INVASIVE REMOVAL THAT YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN DOING ON YOUR PROPERTY, WHAT WHAT DOES THAT MEAN LONG TERM? SO, LIKE THE PUBLIC INVESTMENT TIME ON THE BOTTOM, PUBLIC INVESTMENT ON TH, ON THE LEFT, SO ESTABLISHING A HEALTHY CANOPY, THAT INVESTMENT WILL INCREASE OVER TIME BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO BE MANAGING MOR, MORE URBAN FORESTS. SO THAT IS A COST THAT WILL INCREASE. BUT THE BENEFIT WILL ALSO EXPONENTIALLY INCREASE, LAWN MAINTENANCE, HOPEFULLY AS YOU TRANSITION LAWN AWAY FROM BEING MOWN, THAT INVESTMENT WILL GO DOWN. MAYBE IN THE NEAR TERM. IT'S PRETTY STEADY BECAUSE THERE'S SOME INVESTMENT IN MANAGEMENT, MAINTENANCE, BUT THAT WILL HOPEFULLY GO DOWN INVASIVE SPECIES MANAGEMENT HOPEFULLY CAN LIKE SORT OF TAKE A NOSEDIVE OVER TIME, ESPECIALLY IF ALL THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNERS AND THE COMMUNITY EMBRACES, EMBRACES IT AS A WHOLE, THAT INVESTMENT THAT THE CITY MAKES IN, IN INVASIVE INVASIVE MANAGEMENT, INVASIVE SPECIES MANAGEMENT WILL SORT OF NOSEDIVE OVER TIME BECAUSE THE THREAT IS, OR THE PRESSURE IS, IS MUCH LESS, AND THEN STREAM RESTORATION IS SORT OF JUST A CONSTANT, WHENEVER THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO
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RESTORE OR EXPAND A RIPARIAN CORRIDOR, THAT WILL JUST CONTINUE OVER TIME. THAT'S THAT'S ALL I GOT. THAT'S IT. THAT'S IT. ONE MORE TIME. I MEAN, THERE'S OTHERS. THE CALLERY PEAR. WHAT'S WHAT'S SO BAD ABOUT IT, IT IS, IT IS A HEAVY SEA. IT HEAVILY SELF-SEEDS, FROM MOSTLY BIRDS, AND IT IS ALSO VERY, IT'S A VERY VIABLE SEED. SO ESSENTIALLY EVERY SEED THAT'S DROPPED BECOMES A TREE. IT'S SORT OF LIKE HONEYSUCKLE. IT'S JUST VERY PROLIFIC. IT GROWS REALLY WELL, AND IT WILL PUSH OUT EVERY OTHER NATIVE PLANT, OVER TIME AND BECOME SORT OF JUST A MONOCULTURE OF PEARS. I MEAN, I'M JUST WE'RE TRYING TO GET THIS TREE CANOPY UP FROM 23. WHAT HAVE YOU DONE? I FEEL LIKE WE NEED MORE TREES. SO IT ISN'T PROLIFIC. GOOD IT IS, IN. SO THERE'S, A STUDY FROM, AS PART OF SORT OF THE TREE, THE TREE STUDY THE BENEFIT. SO THEY STARTED LOOKING AT, LIKE, CANOPY COVER AND IT'S A, IT'S A GOOD POINT. THERE'S LIKE A LOT OF NUANCES IN WHAT CANOPY COVER MEANS, BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE A CANOPY COVER, THAT'S ALL TREE OF HEAVEN AND PEAR. IT'S REALLY NOT A VALUABLE RESOURCE BECAUSE LONG TERM THAT'S NOT A STABLE ECO SYSTEM, SO THE CANOPY COVER OF THAT IS, IS CHALLENGING. I THINK FORTUNATELY FOR NEW ALBANY, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF PEARS, THAT ARE EITHER STREET TREES OR SORT OF COMMUNITY ENTRY TREES. BUT IT IS IT IS A GOOD POINT. I MEAN, IT'S, EVENTUALLY THOSE TREES WILL DIE, SO IT'S EASY TO START NOW. I MEAN, I CAN KEEP GOING. GO AHEAD. YEAH, YEAH. SO THAT SO I GUESS GOING BACK TO THE I THINK WHERE THIS DISCUSSION STARTED, THAT NATIVE PLANTINGS AND I THINK THE DISCUSSION WITH THIS GROUP WAS, YOU KNOW, WHAT CAN THE CITY DO, SPECIFICALLY ROADWAYS. RIGHT OF WAY AREAS. I MEAN, I, I HAVE IN MY HEAD LIKE I DRIVE BY LIKE A PATCH OF WILDFLOWERS. I'M LIKE, GOSH, THAT'D BE GREAT IF EVERY STREET WAS JUST LINED WITH WILDFLOWERS.AND, I GUESS WHAT I DIDN'T SEE IN THE PRESENTATION WAS, KIND OF THAT SPECIFIC APPLICATION. I MEAN, SHORT OF, YOU KNOW, JUST LETTING GO IN A MOW ZONE AND THEN LETTING THE GRASS GROW, ARE THERE OTHER, LESSONS LEARNED OR BEST PRACTICES THAT MXQ HAS DONE IN AREAS SIMILAR TO OUR CLIMATE THAT WOULD WORK ON IN THOSE RIGHT OF WAYS AND LIKE, KIND OF I'M SPECIFICALLY THINKING, YOU KNOW, THE MEDIANS WHERE WE HAVE TURF NOW, EXAMPLES OF APPLICATIONS YOU'VE DONE IN THOSE AREAS. YEAH. SO THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. WE HAVE NOT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE STARTING TO TRY TO DO RIGHT NOW OR WE'RE WE'RE STARTING TO DO RIGHT NOW IS, SORT OF FIND THE MIDDLE GROUND BETWEEN LIKE, KILLING EVERYTHING AND PLANTING A MEADOW MIX, WHICH IS ALL NATIVE PLANTS, OR JUST LETTING THE GRASS GROW AND LET THAT BE WHAT THE ESTHETIC IS. IT'S FINDING THE MIDDLE GROUND WHICH IS MAYBE LETTING THE GRASS GROW BECAUSE EVERYBODY KNOWS HOW TO GROW GRASS AND MANAGE GRASS, AND THEN COMING BACK AND PLANTING IN THAT WITH WILDFLOWERS OR FORBS THAT SORT OF PROVIDE A DIFFERENT ESTHETIC, YOU MAY NOT, YOU MAY NOT GET SORT OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL BENEFIT OF ALL NATIVE PLANTINGS, BUT YOU ALSO DON'T HAVE THE RISK OF, OF IT FAILING. AND THEN REDOING IT ALL AGAIN IN SOME OTHER POINT. SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE TRYING IN ROCKY RIVER RIGHT NOW, WHICH IS TO LET THE LAWN GROW AND THEN COME BACK AND PLANT LATER, WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT MEANS ON SCALE, LIKE FOR DOING IT ALONG A FREEWAY, BUT I THINK YOU MAY BE ABLE TO SORT OF SELECTIVELY REMOVE AND START PLANTING OUR OUR CURRENT STRATEGY IS TO INSTALL PLUGS, WHICH IS NOT ECONOMICALLY FEASIBLE ALONG THE FREEWAY, BUT THERE MAY BE A WAY TO SEED INTO THAT MIX. LIKE IF YOU LET THE LET THE EXISTING GRASS COME UP AND THEN SEED INTO THAT MIX WITH WILDFLOWERS, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT. SO CHALLENGE. SORRY, THE CHALLENGE, IF YOU ARE STARTING FROM SCRATCH, YOU'RE CLEARING AN AREA
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AND YOU'RE JUST PLANTING COMPLETELY WILDFLOWERS IS IT'S MORE LIKELY THAT INVASIVES ARE GOING TO MOVE IN VERSUS MIXING GRASS AND WILDFLOWERS IN. YEAH, THAT THAT'S CORRECT. SO, WHEN YOU SEED, SORT OF A WILDFLOWER MIX, MOST OF THE PLANTS. SO THERE'S, THERE'S TWO THINGS THAT HAPPEN. ONE IS WHEN IT'S FIRST SEEDED, THERE'S ANNUALS THAT ARE INSTALLED IN THAT OR EMBEDDED IN THAT MIX AND MAKE IT LOOK LIKE IT'S JUST AMAZING AND BEAUTIFUL. THE FIRST YEAR, BUT THEN THOSE DIE OFF AND THEN THE SECOND AND THIRD YEAR, THERE'S REALLY NOTHING SHOWING BECAUSE THE FORBS ARE REALLY JUST STARTING TO TAKE ROOT AND GROW, SO IT TAKES PROBABLY 3 TO 5 YEARS FOR THOSE FORBS TO REALLY ESTABLISH AND GROW BEFORE YOU REALLY SEE AN IMPACT FROM FROM WHAT THAT I, DID THAT ANSWER THE QUESTION? I THINK SO, YEAH. I'M JUST TRYING TO THINK THROUGH THIS WHOLE, PROCESS AND WHAT MAKES THE MOST SENSE. I THINK IT WAS INTERESTING POINT. YOU'RE SAYING, YOU KNOW, THE MAINTENANCE PEOPLE IN COMMUNITIES ARE USED TO MOWING, AND THAT MAKES SENSE. AND THEY KNOW WHAT TIME OF YEAR THEY HAVE TO APPLY FERTILIZER, ETC. HOW TO MOW IT CORRECTLY. I'M JUST CURIOUS IF YOU'VE HAD ANY LUCK WITH OKAY, YOU KNOW, WE'VE REDUCED THE MOWING AMOUNT BY THIS MUCH PERCENT AND WE'VE SAVED TIME, EQUIPMENT, IN RETRAINING PEOPLE. YOU KNOW, LET'S SAY WE HAVE THIS CHUNK OF TIME. HOW DIFFICULT IS IT TO TRAIN THEM TO REMOVE INVASIVES OR WHAT OTHER MAINTENANCE TASKS, YOU KNOW, NEED TO BE DONE? YEAH, IT DEPENDS ON THE ON THE FORMAL TRAINING OF EMPLOYEES OR THE PEOPLE DOING THIS WORK, IF THEY HAVE A HORTICULTURAL, HORTICULTURAL BACKGROUND, IT'S PROBABLY NOT THAT DIFFICULT. BUT IF IT'S JUST SOMEBODY THAT'S THERE TO MOW GRASS AND THEY DON'T REALLY KNOW OR CARE WHAT A WEED IS, THAT'S WHERE IT BECOMES HARDER BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO YOU HAVE TO TRAIN THEM TO, TO IDENTIFY AND UNDERSTAND WHAT IS BENEFICIAL VERSUS INVASIVE, AND THAT'S REALLY THAT, THAT'S, THAT COMES WITH YEARS OF JUST EXPERIENCE AND TRAINING. AND, BUT IT IS POSSIBLE THERE'S, THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE FOR OTHER PROJECTS THAT WEREN'T, WEREN'T SORT OF A NATIVE RESTORATION.WERE LIKE FLIP CARDS OR OTHER THINGS THAT PEOPLE COULD CARRY AROUND AND UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY WERE LOOKING AT, THE ALSO, THERE'S ALSO OTHER CONTRACTORS AND ENVIRONMENTAL RESTORATION CONTRACTORS THAT DO HAVE THOSE PEOPLE ON STAFF. SO IT'S REALLY HIRING THE DIFFERENT LIKE SOMEBODY DIFFERENT. SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE, THE, THE THINGS WITH LIKE THE PROCESS OF GETTING IT DONE IS MOST OF THE CONTRACTORS BIDDING ON THESE PROJECTS ARE HORTICULTURALISTS BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER LANDSCAPE STUFF AND LAWN, AND SO THEN THEY JUST GET THE BID FOR INSTALLING THE MEADOW, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT THEY'RE TRAINED IN. SO THERE ARE CONTRACTORS SPECIFICALLY, TRAINED IN RESTORATION, THE WORK THAT MHRA IS DOING AT TAYLOR FARM, THEY ARE RESTORATION ECOLOGISTS. SO THEY UNDERSTAND THAT PROCESS, SO IT'S PROBABLY JUST A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT, IT'S FINDING THE RIGHT PEOPLE, THE RIGHT CONTRACTOR OR THE RIGHT PARTNER TO, TO FACILITATE THAT. HAVE YOU GUYS BEEN DOWN DUBLIN-GRANVILLE IN FRONT OF TAYLOR, LIKE IN THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS? AND ALL THOSE THOSE ARE BLACK EYED SUSANS. HAVE YOU SEEN THAT? YEAH. THEY'RE AMAZING. AND SO I THINK THAT'S A GOOD EXAMPLE. NOW ARE YOU SAYING THOSE WON'T COME BACK NEXT YEAR, THERE WILL BE LESS OF THEM. OKAY. THAT'S A BUMMER. BUT SO YOU, YOU AND I CAN GO GET SOME SEEDS. YEAH, WELL, THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I'M GOING, BECAUSE YOU CAN DEFINITELY SEE THE DIFFERENCE. SO IN FRONT OF THE FENCE, THAT WHERE THAT DITCH IS NO WORK HAS BEEN DONE THERE. AND SO THAT'S JUST WHATEVER WAS THERE PREVIOUSLY. CONSTRUCTION HAS HAPPENED. I MEAN, MXQ IS OUR LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT ON THAT PROJECT BEHIND THE FENCE WHERE EVERYTHING WAS DISTURBED, THE SEED MIX THAT WENT IN IS A NATIVE SEED MIX. SO WE'LL GET TO SEE THAT OVER TIME. AND HOPEFULLY OUR SERVICE DEPARTMENT GETS TO SOME EDUCATION ON HOW TO MANAGE THAT. I WONDER IF DOING SOMETHING IN FRONT OF THE FENCE MIGHT ALSO BE A LIKE, IF WE COULD PICK A CORRIDOR AND MAYBE LIKE A PARK LIKE JAMES RIVER HAS A PRETTY OPEN LAWN AREA. LIKE IF WE COULD DO A COUPLE PILOT PROJECTS THAT THEN OVER THE YEARS IT GETS OUR CREWS.
EDUCATED ON HOW TO DO IT. AND THEN IT HELPS THE PUBLIC GET EDUCATED ON, OH, THIS IS WHAT IT COULD LOOK LIKE. I MEAN, THAT'S A LONG TERM COMMITMENT. SO IT'S NOT THE LIKE, WOW FACTOR OF DOING SOMETHING RIGHT OF WAY. BUT THAT MIGHT BE A REALLY USEFUL PROJECT. YEAH. AND I THINK THAT'S GENERALLY THE EXPERIENCE THAT WE'VE HAD IS LIKE IF YOU CAN GROW INTO IT,
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YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE YOU'RE GOING TO FIND MUCH MORE SUCCESS, THAN SORT OF LIKE WE'RE JUST GOING TO GO FROM BLACK TO WHITE, LIKE GOING FROM FROM BLACK AND SLOWLY TRANSITIONING TO A GRAY AND THEN GOING TO WHITE MAKES IT MUCH EASIER FOR EVERYBODY. THE COMMUNITY, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR MANAGEMENT AND MAINTENANCE OF THAT MAKES IT MUCH EASIER FOR EVERYBODY TO UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS. AND YOU CAN LEARN AND LIKE, OH, WE FIGURED OUT HOW TO DO THIS BETTER, OR THE NEXT TIME WE WANT TO TRY, TRY KILLING IT ALL AND, PUTTING IN A NEW MEADOW, MIX. SO IT IT I THINK YOU THAT'S WHAT WE'VE FOUND IS TRYING TO SLOWLY TRANSITION. THAT IS MUCH MORE SUCCESSFUL FOR PEOPLE BECAUSE IT'S LEGIBLE AND UNDERSTANDABLE, AND IT CAN OVERLAP WITH STAFF AND, CHANGE STAFF CHANGING OUT, AND THAT RESPONSIBILITY CAN BUILD AS AN ENTITY RATHER THAN A PERSON. I WONDER IF WE COULD DO ONE SIDE OF THE STREET, KILL IT ALL, AND START FROM SCRATCH AND THE OTHER SIDE THE TRANSITION AND SEE WHAT WORKS. YOU'RE THINKING ALONG THE LINES OF HOW I HAVE DONE THINGS IN THE PAST, TOO, BECAUSE JUST FROM A PRACTICAL PERSPECTIVE, IT FEELS LIKE THERE'S A MINIMUM SCALE, LIKE A SCALE OF THE IMPACT. LIKE IF YOU CONVERTED SOMETHING THE SIZE OF THIS ROOM INTO A WILDFLOWER MEADOW VERSUS SOMETHING THAT MAY BE FOUR TIMES AS BIG, THE COST EQUATION, AT LEAST FROM THE WILDFLOWERS INDEX, NEEDS TO BE SIGNIFICANT.LIKE THE SCALE GOES A LONG WAY AND SO I THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS LIKE, IS THERE A MINIMUM LEVEL OF THIS KIND OF GENERAL SIZE AREA AND WE CAN KIND OF PICK AND CHOOSE LIKE WHAT FILLS THAT KIND OF SCALE IMPACT AND JUST KIND OF SEE HOW IT GOES BECAUSE THERE'S DIFFERENT WAYS TO DO IT. IT'S LIKE FRAMEWORK AND TIME OF YEAR OF WHAT'S PLANTED. AND THEY ALL HAVE KIND OF VARYING DEGREES OF SUCCESS AND HOW LONG IT TAKES TO GET STARTED. AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE WERE HOPING THIS DISCUSSION AND, AND WE'LL GIVE YOU ALL THE INFORMATIONAL MATERIAL LIKE THE MOWING MAPS BECAUSE BETWEEN NOW AND NEXT MONTH, WE WOULD LOVE FOR YOU TO THINK THROUGH. WHERE ARE SOME PLACES THAT I DRIVE BY THAT ARE CITY CONTROLLED? EITHER RIGHTS OF WAY OR OPEN SPACES AND THEN IF THAT'S A PROJECT YOU WANT TO PROPOSE, THEN MAYBE WE START THINKING THROUGH HOW, YOU KNOW, WHAT DO YOU DO HERE? IT'S ALMOST LIKE A LITTLE TEST PLOT THAT COULD BE THROUGHOUT THE CITY, AND THEN YOU COULD PROBABLY COME UP WITH SOME LIKE, FUN EDUCATIONAL CAMPAIGN WITH THAT. AS WELL. YEAH. I'M CURIOUS TO WHAT WHAT ARE SOME THINGS THAT WORK FOR YOU GUYS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ABOUT COMMUNICATION, EDUCATION OF THE PUBLIC. BECAUSE TO ME, A BIG PART OF IT IS, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE TRYING TO MAKE YOUR CITY SPACES MORE ESTHETICALLY BEAUTIFUL, WHICH IS VERY IMPORTANT IN NEW ALBANY. LIKE A LOT OF COMMUNITIES. BUT THE LONG TERM GOAL IS TO INSPIRE RESIDENTS TO DO THE SAME THING IN THEIR HOME OR SOMETHING SIMILAR. RIGHT. SO LIKE, WHAT DO YOU USUALLY DO? LIKE SIGNS OR YOU DO KIND OF A PUBLIC INFORMATION CAMPAIGNS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. UNFORTUNATELY, WE HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN VERY FEW OF THOSE CAMPAIGNS. USUALLY THEY'RE HANDLED DIRECTLY BY MOST CLIENTS THAT WE WORK WITH, BUT I WOULD SAY DOING IT IN AS MANY AVENUES AS POSSIBLE, WHICH IS SIGNS AND EMAILS AND POSTING ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND TALKING ABOUT IT IN SCHOOL. TOUCHING AS MANY SORT OF FACETS AS POSSIBLE, IS REALLY THE EASIEST WAY TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND AND HEAR AND, BUT SIGNS DEFINITELY HELP, UNLESS IT'S REALLY BAD AND THEN YOU DON'T WANT THEM TO KNOW THAT, THERE'S A FINGER POINTING THIS WAY, RIGHT? THIS PERSON DID IT. YEAH. I JUST WANT TO COME BACK TO WHAT CASEY WAS ASKING ABOUT, BECAUSE THIS IS, I THINK, OUR KIND OF, I WON'T SAY A ROADBLOCK, BUT A SPEED BUMP. A NICE, STEEP SPEED BUMP. HERE IS THE ESTHETIC OF. AND I'VE TALKED TO STAFF ABOUT THIS. I ALMOST RATHER NOT CALL THIS NATIVE PLANNING, BUT MORE SUSTAINABLE PLANNING, BECAUSE I DON'T NECESSARILY THINK THAT IT HAS TO BE NATIVE TO BE SUSTAINABLE. SO MY IDEA OF NO NO MOW ISN'T NECESSARILY NO MOWING OF TURF. IT'S REPLACEMENT OF AREA WITH SOMETHING THAT'S A LOW GROWTH KIND OF OPTION. BUT WHEN IT GETS TO SOME OF THE MEDIAN SPACE IN NEW ALBANY ESPECIALLY, THERE'S JUST THERE'S I THINK WE ASSUME THERE'S GOING TO BE A REQUIREMENT OR AN EXPECTATION THAT THERE'S SOME CONTINUITY AND SOME CLEANLINESS TO THE WHOLE THING. SO I'VE BEEN PITCHING THE IDEA OF THAT. YOU KNOW, IF IT'S LOW GROWTH SUMAC OR IT'S RED TWIG DOGWOOD OR SOME INTERMIXING OF THINGS LIKE THAT IN SOME OF THESE MEDIAN SPACES WHERE THERE'S SOME VISUAL INTEREST, IT IS ALL NATIVE, AND IT'S FAIRLY LOW MAINTENANCE WITHOUT HAVING TO ACTUALLY HAVE A SEED MIX THAT GROWS AND DIES. SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S CONSISTENT,
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TYPE OF THING. SO I WAS GOING TO SAY I'VE NEVER MENTIONED THIS, BUT IF YOU THE, WHOLE FOODS PARKING LOT, THEIR PARKING DEALS HAVE A LOT OF THAT LOW GROWTH SUMAC KIND OF COMBINATIONS OF THINGS JUST TO GIVE ANY IDEA OF WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE FILLED IN, SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I WAS HOPING TO MAYBE HEAR SOME THOUGHTS ABOUT GOING FROM JUST THIS. YOU KNOW, BANK OF TURF THAT'S CHANGED TO WILDFLOWERS AND TO SOMETHING THAT'S A LITTLE MORE CONSIDERED, IF I CAN USE THAT TERM. YEAH. WHICH I THINK IS WHERE SOME OF THESE PROJECTS PROBABLY START. THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. AND THIS IS, I THINK, PROBABLY THE ECOTONE PROJECT. THE ECOTONES SPEAKS TO THAT DIRECTLY, WHICH IS LIKE A FULL TRANSFER TRANSFORMATION OF A PUBLIC DOT RIGHT OF WAY TO SOMETHING THAT'S NOT JUST MOWN EVERY TWO MONTHS. IT'S A GOOD QUESTION. THERE'S A LOT OF CHALLENGES WITH WITH THAT, MOSTLY SCALE, AND THAT'S IT'S THE MAINTENANCE THAT BECOMES THAT BIGGEST CHALLENGE IN ALL OF THAT IS MANAGING BECAUSE THERE'S ALSO IT DEPENDS HOW FAR OFF, HOW FAR OFF THE ROAD. BUT IF IT'S SORT OF THE CENTER MEDIAN THAT'S CHALLENGING BECAUSE, THERE'S DOT REQUIREMENTS FOR THE CRASH EFFECTIVENESS OF A PLANT RELATIVE TO, SLOWING A CAR DOWN OR A CAR IMPACTING THAT, BUT IF IT'S SORT OF ON THE EDGES, IT'S PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT EASIER TO MANAGE, BUT THEN IT'S JUST, BEING CAREFUL TO SELECT THINGS THAT, ARE NOT GOING TO CAUSE MORE MAINTENANCE FOR YOU GUYS LONG TERM. RIGHT, BUT I THINK THERE'S DEFINITELY OPPORTUNITIES ALONG THOSE WITH SHRUBS, OR EVEN MORE TREES, BUT UNDERSTANDING HOW THAT MAY RELATE TO DOT REQUIREMENTS, IS, IS REALLY THE BIGGEST ISSUE. OKAY. BECAUSE WE STARTED TO LOOK AT SOME OF THAT AND WHAT WE WERE, WHAT I WAS AT LEAST INTERPRETING FROM THE REGULATION WAS THAT YOU'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING FOR PLANNING MATERIAL THAT REDUCES HEADLIGHT GLARE AND DOES DIFFERENT THINGS.AND CERTAINLY A SHRUB IS GOING TO DO MORE TO SLOW CAR DOWN THAN TURPINES. SO IF THAT'S A CONSIDERATION. SO I THINK IT'S KIND OF WHERE MY HEAD STARTED SPINNING WITH, OH WELL LOOK, WE SHOULD BE NOT TALKING ABOUT THINGS THAT GROW THAT DIE, THAT GET MOWED DOWN, YOU KNOW, FOR SIX MONTHS OR FIVE MONTHS OUT OF THE YEAR. IT'S LIKE, WHAT CAN BE MORE ESTABLISHED AND MAINTAINED FROM THAT STANDPOINT. AND I REALIZE THAT THAT OBVIOUSLY THINGS DON'T JUST GROW UP, THEY GROW OUT AS WELL. SO IT'S FROM A PLANNING STANDPOINT, IT'S GOT TO BE CONSIDERED. BUT YEAH, I JUST IT MAKES ME CRAZY TO BE LIKE, WE'RE PLAYING ALL THESE DECIDUOUS TREES. AND SO IT'S LIKE IT LOOKS GREAT FOR X AMOUNT OF TIME. AND THEN THE LEAVES FALL AND LEAVES ARE BLOWING EVERYWHERE. AND YOU KNOW, SO IT'S JUST TRYING TO MITIGATE SOME OF THAT AS WELL. YEAH I THINK ESTABLISHING THE EDGES AND YOU PROBABLY GENERALLY SEE THIS ALONG, MORE OR OLDER OR ESTABLISHED, FREEWAYS OR INTERSTATE SYSTEMS IN THE STATE OF OHIO. UNFORTUNATELY, IN THE STATE OF OHIO IS NOW CLEARING ESSENTIALLY THEIR ENTIRE RIGHT OF WAY OF TREES, SO AWESOME. IF YOU GUYS PROTECT YOUR RIGHT OF WAY, IT'LL BE LIKE THE IT'LL STAND OUT IN, IN AMONGST THE, WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE REST OF THE STATE, BUT I THINK THERE'S, THERE'S A PRETTY EASY, A PRETTY EASY WAY. AND MAYBE IT STARTS LIKE AT THE FENCE LINE. AND THEN SORT OF MOVES IN OVER TIME, LIKE YOU, JUST YOU EXPERIMENT ON SOME PLANTING ALONG THE EDGES AND THEN YOU'RE LIKE, WELL, THAT WAS WORKING WELL. AND THEN YOU JUST KEEP EXPANDING THAT, OVER THE YEARS BECAUSE YOU CAN PLANT SHRUBS, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S LIKE STAGHORN SUMAC OR SOMETHING THAT'S NOT GOING TO TURN INTO A TREE, BUT HAS SOME MASS, AND WILL OUTCOMPETE ANY OF THE WEEDS, I THINK THAT'S AN EASY WAY TO SORT OF START ADDING IN. AND EXPERIMENTING WITH LIKE, DIFFERENT MANAGEMENT STRATEGIES, LIKE, DO WE KILL THIS AREA AND WE MULCH IT AND OR SEED IT AND DO SOMETHING ELSE, OR DO WE JUST PLANT DIRECTLY IN AND JUST STOP MOWING AN AREA, I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF WAYS TO, TO EXPERIMENT WITH THAT, WITH, WITH SHRUBS, AND THEN YOU CAN START ADDING FORWARDS OR OTHER THINGS AS, AS NEEDED. DID YOU GUYS HAVE ANY REACTION TO THAT OSU PICTURE TALKING ABOUT THE NOMO? I'M I'M STRUGGLING WITH THAT. THE IDEA OF I UNDERSTAND THE CONCEPT THAT IT'S THE EASIEST THING TO GET STARTED AND IT'S, AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF THE LOWEST HANGING FRUIT, LIKE YOU'RE SAYING, BUT, I MEAN, YOU DON'T HAVE REALLY. ARE THERE ANY ADVANTAGES, LIKE FROM A POLLINATOR STANDPOINT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT USING OR WILDLIFE? ARE THERE ADVANTAGES TO I MEAN, I GUESS YOU WOULD HAVE MORE SPACE FOR INSECTS TO LAY EGGS AND THAT TYPE OF THING.
YEAH. SO THERE IS SOME SOME BENEFIT. IT'S PRETTY LIMITED. AND THAT'S THE DRAWBACK OF THIS AND SORT OF THE TENSION BETWEEN MANAGING SOMETHING SO THAT IT'S NOT JUST INVASIVES AND BUILDING
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THE MOST ROBUST AND AMAZING AND SUPPORTIVE ECOSYSTEM, AND HOW DO YOU HOW DO YOU GET FROM A TO B, WITHOUT SORT OF GETTING STUCK IN THE MIDDLE WITH INVASIVES? SO THERE IS SOME BENEFIT BECAUSE THERE ARE SEEDS PRODUCED BY THIS. SO THERE IS SOME BENEFIT TO, TO BIRDS AND SORT OF SMALL, SMALLER WILDLIFE, THERE IS SOME HABITAT COVER, BUT I WOULD SAY THIS IS, PRETTY NEUTRAL IN ITS BENEFIT, THE BENEFIT MORE IS WE'RE NOT MOWING, REDUCING THE AMOUNT OF CARBON EMISSIONS AND THE AMOUNT OF DISTURBANCE THAT'S HAPPENING, SO THAT'S PROBABLY MORE WHERE THE BENEFIT IS THAN ECOLOGICAL. I SEE THIS APPLICATION, LIKE IN THE BUSINESS PARK, LIKE ON MOUNDING IN FRONT OF LIKE A BIG, YOU KNOW, KIND OF A BIG BOX RATHER THAN KIND OF AREAS AROUND RESIDENTIAL AREAS AND MAIN PARTS THROUGH THE CITY CENTER. YEAH, THIS, THIS SPECIFIC KIND OF TREATMENT, THIS, THIS APPLICATION. YEAH. YEAH THE NO, I GUESS WE CALL IT THE NO MOW, BUT YEAH, I DON'T THINK LIKE IN A MEDIAN ON 62 BY A ROUNDABOUT. THIS IS KIND OF LIKE THIS IS THE ANSWER. YEAH I AGREE I THINK IT'S KIND OF MIXED. I REMEMBER IT'S BEEN YEARS, BUT ABERCROMBIE AND FITCH CAN'T JUST USE TO KIND OF DO THIS. AND THEY ACTUALLY KIND OF TOOK CREATIVE LIBERTIES WHERE THEY WOULD CHANGE THE HIERARCHY OF LINES EVERY YEAR OR TWO OR SO. SO IT CHANGED. IT JUST CHANGED THE ESTHETIC. BUT IT ALSO MEANT THE ARCHITECTURE OF IT. SO YEAH, I MEAN, THERE ARE I MEAN, THE BENEFITS IS, YOU KNOW, INSTEAD OF THEM MOWING FOR THREE HOURS, THEY'RE, THEY MOW FOR, YOU KNOW, A HALF HOUR EVERY OTHER WEEK TO GET THE FRONT THERE. AND, SO I DO THINK THIS COULD BE AN APPLICATION THAT CERTAIN AREAS. BUT I WOULD STILL LIKE TO EXPLORE OTHER OTHER ONE.ME AND MY GREATEST FEAR IS WE DO LIKE AT SOME SORT OF PILOT AND WE DON'T EXECUTE IT PROPERLY.
AND IT LOOKS TERRIBLE. AND THEN EVERYBODY'S LIKE, WELL, THIS IS STUPID. AND THEN YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T GET ANY SUPPORT WHEN YOU WALK AWAY FROM IT. SO YEAH. AND THAT THAT'S THAT IS THE CHALLENGE. IT'S GETTING THE PERCEPTION TO ALIGN WITH GETTING EVERYBODY TO ALIGN WITH THE PERCEPTION OF, OF THAT THING THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH, AND THAT'S WHY, LIKE, JUST STOPPING THEM STOP MOWING GRASS. THAT'S LIKE THE EASY STEP. AND AND THEN, YOU KNOW, IMMEDIATELY IF PEOPLE HATE IT OR NOT. WITHOUT BECAUSE THE, THE, THE RISK IS PRETTY LOW BECAUSE YOU CAN JUST MOW IT AGAIN, SO I MEAN, EVEN TAYLOR FARM LAST YEAR WE GOT A LOT OF NEGATIVE FEEDBACK BECAUSE IT DIDN'T LOOK GREAT YET. AND IT'S A TEN YEAR PROCESS AND IT'S GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, UNBELIEVABLE. IT'S GOING TO LOOK COMPLETELY DIFFERENT IN TEN YEARS THAN IT DOES NOW. AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, RECLAIMING. THERE'S A LOT OF FERTILIZER STILL OUT THERE THAT, YOU KNOW, MIDGES WERE CRAZY IN THE FALL AND SO WE'RE DEALING WITH THINGS. BUT THE IMMEDIATE REACTION TO A BEAUTIFUL PARK WAS, THIS IS UGLY. WHY DID WE DO THIS? IT'S LIKE, IT'S GOT TO BE A LITTLE PATIENCE. AND I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT YOU KNOW, IF WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT YEAR, ONE LOOKS AMAZING. AND THEN YEAR TWO LOOKS AWFUL BECAUSE THOSE ANNUALS DON'T COME BACK, I JUST DON'T WANT TO GO DOWN THAT ROAD. AND THEN THEY JUST PULL THE PLUG ON THE WHOLE PROGRAM. I THINK THE KEY WORD IS THE. YET BECAUSE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MANICURED LAWN AND LIKE HAS TO BE CUT IN THE MONTH STARTS TO LOOK SHABBY, BUT THEN IT KIND OF TRANSFORMS AS IT'S LIKE, OH, IT'S BY DESIGN. AND THEY KIND OF TURNS INTO LIKE AN ESTHETIC THAT JUST CHANGES. BUT YOU HAVE TO GIVE IT A LITTLE. YOU'VE JUST DESCRIBED CHARLES AND I'S HAIR RIGHT? WE JUST WE JUST CAN'T. WE CAN'T GET THROUGH THAT AWKWARD STAGE AND WE JUST KNOCK IT BACK DOWN IN THE, YOU KNOW, THE STRUGGLE IS REAL. BEN FRANKLIN, THESE ARE NATIVE PLANTINGS. I THINK ONE THING THAT PEOPLE STRUGGLE WITH, WITH NATIVE PLANTINGS, IN MY EXPERIENCE, WE HAVE A NATIVE GARDEN AT SCHOOL AND IN THE SPRING, SUMMER, FALL, IT LOOKS BEAUTIFUL. IT'S FOUR YEARS OLD, SO IT'S GETTING PRETTY ESTABLISHED, YOU KNOW, IN THE LATE FALL WINTER, IT'S IT DOESN'T LOOK AS NICE. IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, LIKE GRASS IS ALWAYS THE SAME HEIGHT, EVEN IN THE WINTER. IT LOOKS PRETTY NICE. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY ANSWER TO THIS GOOD ANSWER TO THIS QUESTION, BUT IS THERE ANYTHING TO DO TO BALANCE THAT OUT, LIKE SEASONALLY? I GUESS I'M NOT JUST THINKING ABOUT, LIKE, YOU KNOW, EARLY STAGE VERSUS LATE STAGE, BUT TO MAKE IT ESTHETICALLY PLEASING YEAR ROUND, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? YOU COULD BURN IT. YEAH WHICH IS, PROBABLY A TOUGH SELL. MAYBE, OR YOU CAN MOW IT. ONE OF THE I THINK ONE
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OF THE STRUGGLES WITH THAT IS THAT THERE'S A LOT OF BENEFIT THAT COMES TO, COMES FROM, COMES WITH MIGRATORY BIRDS AND LEAVING ALL THAT STUFF UP. IT'S A IT'S PROBABLY THE AGE OLD QUESTION WITH LIKE PEOPLE'S LANDSCAPES AT THEIR HOUSE. LIKE EVERYBODY WANTS FALLS DONE. I WANT TO CLEAN EVERYTHING UP AND CUT EVERYTHING DOWN. BUT REALLY, IF YOU LEFT IT UP, IT'S MAYBE NOT THE MOST BEAUTIFUL THING, BUT IT'S ALSO THE MOST BENEFICIAL THING, SO THAT COMES, I THINK, PROBABLY WITH SOME, SOME EDUCATION OR JUST ACCEPTANCE OF LIKE, WHAT IS BEAUTIFUL BECAUSE IN AMERICA, LAWN IS BEAUTIFUL, OTHER COUNTRIES IT'S NOT, SO IT'S YEAH, THERE AREN'T MANY STRATEGIES OTHER THAN MOWING OR BURNING, OR JUST LEAVING UP. BUT I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO SET UP A PILOT FOR SHOWING WHAT YOU COULD POSSIBLY DO, BECAUSE I DO THINK IF WE EDUCATE PEOPLE PROPERLY AND COMMUNICATE THAT EFFECTIVELY, I THINK WE CAN CHANGE THAT SORT OF VISUAL OF WHAT'S BEAUTIFUL. IF YOU UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S SUBJECTIVE, RIGHT? AND YOU UNDERSTAND THE BIODIVERSITY IMPORTANCE, IF YOU UNDERSTAND THAT YOU'RE NOT JUST DOING THINGS BECAUSE WE'RE HUMANS AND WE WANT THINGS TO BE BEAUTIFUL, BUT ARE WE? CAN WE DO IT AND MAKE IT BEAUTIFUL ENOUGH THAT IT ALSO BENEFITS, YOU KNOW, MORE THAN HUMANS, I GUESS IS WHAT I'M SAYING. BECAUSE IF WE HAVE A HEALTHY ENVIRONMENT FOR OUR FAMILIES, IT MAY NOT ALWAYS LOOK PERFECT, BUT IT'S KIND OF LIKE OTHER THINGS IN LIFE, RIGH? SO I THINK THERE'S A I THINK THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY THERE TO SORT OF EDUCATE OUR COMMUNITY. AND I DO BELIEVE JUST BASED ON MY EXPERIENCE EDUCATING FAMILIES IN NATURE, I THINK IT COULD BE DONE HERE. THAT'S JUST MY THING. I HAD A QUESTION GOING BACK TO CHELSEA. YOUR PRESENTATION THAT THE TMDE BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S A HUGE OPPORTUNITY OUT IN AROUND INTEL IN THAT AREA. THERE'S THE LANGUAGE IN THE ZONING TEXT FOR THAT. AND WE KIND OF WENT THROUGH IT. ARE WE SAYING THERE'S OPPORTUNITY TO DO NATIVE PLANTINGS, OR IS THERE ANY SORT OF REQUIREMENT IN THE TEXT TO DO NATIVE PLANTINGS? THEY ARE REQUIRED. SO, ONE OF THE SITES DEVELOP, THEY HAVE TO SUBMIT A LANDSCAPE PLAN AS PART OF THEIR DEVELOPMENT, AND THEY HAVE A REQUIREMENT FOR THE NUMBER OF TREES. AND, ALL THERE'S LIKE BUFFER AREAS BETWEEN THE STREET AND THE BUILDING THAT THEY HAVE TO PLANT IN. SO THE NUMBER OF PLANTINGS AND ALSO THE TYPES OF PLANTINGS, I HAVE A LINK IN THE, IN THE PRESENTATION. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'LL WORK. IT WASN'T WORKING EARLIER, BUT I CAN EMAIL IT TO YOU. IT WAS SOMETHING THAT INTEL ACTUALLY PUT OUT SHOWING WHAT THEIR TREE CANOPY IS GOING TO BE, BECAUSE OF THE LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENTS THAT THEY WERE REQUIRED TO FOLLOW. SO THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A ACTUALLY A GOOD TREE CANOPY AND ALL OF THE BUFFER BETWEEN THE STREET AND THE, BUILDING WILL, HAVE PLANTINGS AND IT'LL ALL BE NATIVE PLANTINGS. SO I CAN SHARE THAT LINK WITH YOU. IT KIND OF GIVES A GOOD VISUAL OF WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE. AND THEN ANYBODY IN THAT SAME ZONING DISTRICT HAS TO FOLLOW THOSE SAME STANDARDS. SO, AND THAT'S THE ENTIRE 3000 ACRES, RIGHT? YEAH, YEAH. SO THOSE STANDARDS APPLY TO THE INTEL SITE. BUT ANYTHING THAT WAS ZONED TMD, WHICH IS 3000 ACRES OF LAND.YEAH THERE'S ANYTHING IN THE TEXT ADDRESS LIKE GROUND COVER, TURF VERSUS OTHER PLANTINGS. I KNOW WE LIKE THE LANDSCAPE PLAN AND ALL THAT, BUT I THINK, YEAH, THERE WAS ALWAYS JUST BAKED IN THAT WE WERE JUST GOING TO DO TURF. YEAH. THERE'S AREAS FOR, THEY HAVE TO FOLLOW THE SEED MIX REQUIREMENTS FOR THE BUFFER AREA. SO THERE WILL BE AREAS WITHIN THE PARKING LOT THAT HAVE ISLANDS WITH TURF AND STUFF LIKE THAT. THERE WILL BE TURF ON THE PROPERTY, BUT THERE ARE OTHER AREAS WHERE THEY HAVE TO, THE TURF THAT THEY PLANT HAS TO BE THE PRE-APPROVED SEED AND THEN THE, BUFFER AREAS HAS, A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT OF A SEED MIX. IT'S MORE OF LIKE A NATURAL SEED MIX THAT, WITH THE THERE'S AN EXAMPLE, ONE OF THE BUSINESS PARK. TENANTS HAS LIKE THE LONGER GRASS AND THE BUFFER AREA THAT YOU'VE PROBABLY DRIVEN BY, THEY HAVE LIKE THE MOUND AND ON THE MOUND IS LIKE THE, THE LONGER GRASS WITH THE, THE PLANTINGS. SO IS THERE ARE THERE
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MAINTENANCE STANDARDS ALONG WITH THE PLANTING STANDARDS. BECAUSE TO THE POINT I HATE TO GIVE THEM ONE SET OF EXPECTATIONS AND THE. RIGHT. YEAH. I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THE MAINTENANCE. OKAY. I COULD LOOK AT THE CODE AND LET YOU KNOW. YEAH. BECAUSE I MEAN THAT I THINK WHEN WE VISITED ONE OF THE NEWER BUILD OUTS LAST YEAR, IT WAS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME GREAT PLANTINGS LIKE IT FELT LIKE A QUARTER ACRE OF JUST GRASS TO BE MOWED. AND I'M LIKE, WOW, WHERE DID THIS GET SET UP? THE WAY IT WAS PUT TOGETHER. SO I'D BE CURIOUS TO UNDERSTAND HOW THE STANDARDS WERE PUT TOGETHER AND WHAT THE PERCENTAGES OF THE TOTAL AREA LIKE HOW THAT RELATES. IS IT 30% THEY GOT TO BE NATIVE OR IS 100% NATIVE? TO UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BETTER? YEAH. ANYTHING THAT THEY'RE PLANTING, HAS TO BE NATIVE, PERIOD. YEAH, 100. GOT IT. AWESOME PRESENTATION THAT. YEAH.THANK YOU, THANK YOU. YOU'RE PREACHING TO SHARE THAT LAYER THE PRESENTATION. YEAH TREE CANOPIES. TREE CANOPIES I'M SURPRISED BY THAT NUMBER. BUT MY GUESS IS IT'S HIGHER IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS AND LOWER IN COMMERCIAL. THAT BRINGS IT DOWN. YEAH. I THINK PART OF THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE GREENNESS OF THIS AREA AND AREAS THAT HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED, FOR PROFIT. YEAH. BUT I MEAN, IF IT INCLUDES THE RECENTLY ANNEXED, THAT'S 2000 ACRES. IT DOESN'T INCLUDE THAT YET. REALLY, IT'S GOING TO GET WORSE. YEAH YEAH, BUT IT'S REALLY SURPRISING. I FEEL LIKE THERE'S TREES. THERE ARE TREES EVERYWHERE. I MEAN, YOU MUST FEEL IT. MARY LOU JUST PLANTED 14. IT'S AWESOME. THAT'S PROBABLY NOT THE NUMBER OF TREES WE HAVE AN EXTREMELY YOUNG TREE CANOPY THAT MAKES OKAY, THAT MAKES SENSE. OKAY WE'LL PUT ON YOUR THINKING CAPS ONCE YOU GET ALL THIS INFORMATION. AND WE'RE GOING TO COME UP WITH SOME GOOD PROGRAMS OUT OF THIS. OKAY YEP.
FANTASTIC. AWESOME. OKAY. DO YOU WISH TO MOVE ON TO. SURE. YES. OKAY. SO WE HAVE SOME UPDATES FOR THE BOARD. THE FIRST IS REGARDING THE WASTE REDUCTION GRANT, THIS BOARD RECOMMENDED THAT CITY APPLY FOR THIS GRANT. AND THE APPLICATION WAS SPECIFIC TO PURCHASING. THE WATER MONSTER IS WHAT IT'S CALLED. AND IT'S ESSENTIALLY A WATER FILLING STATION. AND THIS WAS TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF PLASTIC WATER BOTTLES THAT WE HAVE TO BUY EVERY YEAR FOR OUR COMMUNITY EVENTS, AND AS PART OF THE GRANT WE DID ALSO PURCHASE, ALUMINUM REUSABLE CUPS AND, AS YOU CAN SEE, THEY ARE ATTACHED TO THE WATER MONSTER, AND PEOPLE CAN USE THOSE IF THEY DON'T BRING THEIR OWN WATER BOTTLE WITH THEM, SO FAR WE HAVE HAD THIS, FILLING STATION AT THE FIRST, TWO FREE SUMMER CONCERTS. AND, IT LOOKED LIKE IT WAS VERY POPULAR. AND THERE WERE QUITE OF A FEW PEOPLE THAT DID HAVE THEIR OWN WATER BOTTLES, AND THEY WERE FILLING THOSE UP AND THEY WERE REUSING THEIR CUPS. AND I SAW PEOPLE LEAVING WITH THEM. THEY WERE TAKING THEM HOME ALSO. THEY WEREN'T JUST THEY ARE RECYCLABLE IN CASE PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO KEEP THEM, BUT THEY WEREN'T JUST GOING IMMEDIATELY INTO THE RECYCLING BIN. WE DO HAVE A RECYCLING BIN THERE TOO, IN CASE THEY DON'T WANT TO KEEP THE CUP. SO WE PLAN TO USE THIS AT THE REST OF THE SUMMER CONCERTS. AND THEN AT THE DIWALI CELEBRATION. AND, FOR ALL OF THE EVENTS THAT WE HAVE NEXT YEAR, WE DIDN'T GET IT IN TIME FOR JUNETEENTH, UNFORTUNATELY. SO WE DID HAVE TO BUY, PLASTIC WATER BOTTLES FOR THAT EVENT, BUT WE WOULD HAVE GONE THROUGH SOME WATER. YEAH, THERE WAS IT WAS A THOUSAND.
THIS HOOKS UP TO OUR SPIGOT, IT'S THE SAME WATER THAT WOULD BE GOING TO THE DRINKING FOUNTAIN, WE HAVE A, OUR OWN DRINKING WATER HOSE THAT WE USE, AND THE FILTER HOOKS TO THE HOSE. SO IT'S FILTERED WATER, AND WE DO HAVE TO ADD ICE TO IT, BECAUSE IT'S NOT INSULATED. SO
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WE ADD THE ICE AND, THE WATER JUST, GETS PUMPED THROUGH THE HOSE THROUGH THE ENTIRE EVENT SO WE DON'T HAVE TO REFILL IT WHEN WE RUN OUT OR ANYTHING. SO, YEA. OUR NEXT UPDATE IS FOR THE COMPOST ENCLOSURE SIGNAGE. AND, THEY DID ATTACH THIS TO ALL THREE LOCATIONS, AND THIS IS THE PICTURE OF THE ONE RIGHT IN THE BACK PARKING LOT HERE. AND THAT IS WHAT THE SIGN LOOKS LIKE. IT WAS MODELED AFTER THE MAGNETS THAT WE USED TO PASS OUT. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS ARE FAMILIAR WITH THOSE, BUT IT WAS MODELED AFTER THOSE, BUT FRESHENED UP A LITTLE BIT FOR A NEWER LOOK. AND PEOPLE CAN SCAN THE QR CODE ON THE SIGN AND REGISTER. FOR THE PROGRAM, OBVIOUSLY PEOPLE CAN STILL DROP OFF EVEN IF THEY'RE NOT REGISTERED, BUT WE LIKE TO KEEP TRACK OF HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE USING THE DROP OFF LOCATIONS. SO HAVE WE GOTTEN ANY FEEDBACK FROM GO ZERO? LIKE, ARE PEOPLE COMPOSTING THE RIGHT THINGS OR ARE WE GETTING FEEDBACK THAT, SAYING WE NEED TO THEY HAVE NOT INDICATED THAT WE'RE GETTING ANYTHING THAT WE SHOULDN'T BE GETTING IN THERE. SO OKAY, GOOD. AND I FROM WHAT I KNOW ABOUT THEM AND TALKING TO OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT THEY WORK WITH, WHEN PEOPLE ARE PUTTING IN SOMETHING THAT MAYBE DOESN'T BELONG, THEY ARE GOOD AT COMMUNICATING THAT. SO I THINK, HOPEFULLY NO NEWS IS GOOD NEWS.OKAY THAT'S GOOD THINGS. WE GET TO NASTY EMAILS AT SCHOOL SOMETIMES FROM ZERO. OH WE GET A SPREADSHEET AND THAT I'M SURE THEY COULD DO THE SAME FOR YOU IF YOU'RE INTERESTED. BUT IT SEEMS LIKE EVERY TIME I LOOK IN THERE, IT LOOKS REALLY GOOD. I MEAN, I THINK PEOPLE ARE COMING ALL THE WAY TO DROP OFF OR, YOU KNOW, PRETTY GOOD ABOUT IT. YEAH, I THINK IT SOUNDS LIKE REALLY, REALLY GOOD. BY THE WAY, I WAS JUST DROPPED OFF THE OTHER DAY, SO. NICE WORK. YEAH. SAM, IN OUR OFFICE, DESIGNED THIS FOR US. THEY'RE THEY'RE GREAT. CAN I ASK ONE? YES FAVOR. YEAH. SO ON THE ON THE WEB SHEET RIGHT THERE IS A DIRECT LINK BECAUSE THERE'S A NAVIGATION ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE THAT GETS RIGHT TO THE RECYCLING OR RIGHT TO THE COMPOSTING SECTION, BUT THE QR CODE JUST GOES TO THE PAGE. SO THE FIRST THING YOU HIT IS TRAS. THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO ANCHOR THAT TO THAT SECTION. OKAY I DON'T WRITE CODE, BUT I KNOW THAT IT'S DONE PRETTY EASILY.
YEAH, I JUST THINK A BETTER EXPERIENCE THAT IT JUST POPS RIGHT UP INTO THAT. SO YOU'RE NOT HAVING TO GO SEARCH AND FIGURE OUT BECAUSE IT'S PRETTY FAR DOWN THE PAGE. MAKES SENSE.
THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. I'LL MAKE A NOTE OF THAT AND PASS THAT ALONG TO THEM. ALL RIGHT. SO WE HAVE BEEN ASKING FOR VOLUNTEERS AT OUR EVENTS FOR WHAT WE'RE CALLING GREEN GUARDIANS. AND THE VOLUNTEERS ARE AT THE WEIGH STATIONS AND, YOU SHOULD HAVE SEEN THE SIGN UP SHEET, BUT WE DID HAVE LAURA VOLUNTEERED FOR JUNETEENTH. SHE WAS KIND OF OUR GUINEA PIG VOLUNTEER, AND WE KIND OF LEARNED SOME THINGS, EVERYONE IS EQUIPPED WITH GLOVES AND HAND SANITIZER. GOOD AND, PETE AND I WALKED HOME LIKE THI. WE DID NOT REALIZE WE THOUGHT IF SOMEONE WAS STANDING THERE TELLING PEOPLE WHAT TO DO, THAT THEY WOULD DO IT. BUT PEOPLE WERE STILL PUTTING THE WRONG THING INTO THE COMPOST BINS. WELL, AND WHEN YOU GET SIX PEOPLE WHO COME UP AT ONCE, RIGHT. YEAH. AND THEY JUST WANT TO MOVE ON. YEAH. WE HAD FOOD TRUCKS AT JUNETEENTH, SO WE HAD A LOT OF FOOD WASTE, AND WE HAD TWO WASTE STATIONS. AND LAURA WAS GREAT. AND NOW WE HAVE GLOVES AND PEOPLE CAN PICK OUT WHAT THEY NEED TO. AND PETE AND ONE OF HIS STUDENTS VOLUNTEERED AT THE SUMMER CONCERT SERIES ON JULY 11TH, WE DIDN'T HAVE AS MUCH FOOD WASTE THAT EVENING BECAUSE THE FOOD TRUCKS ARE AT THE FARMER'S MARKET, ON THOSE EVENINGS AND NOT DIRECTLY ON SITE AT THE CONCERT, BUT HE DID A GREAT JOB, AND THERE WERE SOME OTHER STUDENTS THAT WERE THERE.
YES. THE WHEEL TROUT TWINS ALSO JOINED IN, BEING A GREEN GUARDIAN. NOW, ARE THOSE SIGNS ON THE FRONT OF THE COMPOST? YES. SO WE, THAT WAS ANOTHER THING WE LEARNED GLOVES AND
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SIGNAGE ON THE BINS. SO NOW WE PUT SOME SIGNAGE ON THE BINS SO PEOPLE KNOW WHAT GOES IN THERE, THE VOLUNTEER SPOTS ARE FILLING UP. WE DO HAVE ONE DATE THAT WE NEED VOLUNTEERS STILL ON AUGUST 8TH, BUT JULY 25TH AND SEPTEMBER 21ST ARE, TAKING CARE OF FOR VOLUNTEERS. THE NOEL'S OUR STUDENT LEADERSHIP GRANT RECIPIENTS, SIGNED UP FOR SEPTEMBER. SO IT WAS GOOD TO SEE THEM GETTING INVOLVED IN WHAT THEY'RE PROMOTING. AND THEN WE WILL EVENTUALLY SEND OUT A VOLUNTEER CALL FOR, WEIGH STATION OR GREEN GUARDIANS AT DIWALI. AND I THINK OUR HOPE FOR MOVING FORWARD WITH THE GREEN GUARDIANS. FOR NEXT YEAR IS TO, BRAND IT AND MAKE IT AN ACTUAL THING THAT PEOPLE CAN BE A PART OF. AND IF YOU BECOME A GREEN GUARDIAN, PERHAPS YOU CAN GET A T SHIRT. AND, WE'RE GOING TO LOOK INTO GETTING SOME BETTER, MAYBE PLASTIC BINS WHERE THE SIGNAGE IS HIGHER UP THAT ATTACHES TO THE BACK OF THE BIN, AND IT'S MORE VISIBLE, SO WE'RE KIND OF JUST LEARNING AS WE GO. AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR WITH THE BOARD, WE CAN LOOK AT, PUTTING SOMETHING IN THE BUDGET TO MAKE GREEN GUARDIANS, A STRONGER BRANDED GROUP SUBGROUP OF THE BOARD, PERHAPS. SO. GREAT NEED FOR VOLUNTEERS FOR THIS YEAR.DOES THAT GO OUT IN THE NEWSLETTER REQUEST FORM? AND I GUESS WHERE I'M GOING IS I THINK ABOUT THE VOLUNTEER REQUIREMENTS FOR STUDENTS. RIGHT AND CALL THAT OUT AND GIVE THEM THE CREDIT THEY NEED AND JUST TRY AND FIND THAT. YEAH, WE ARE NOTICING MORE AND MORE OF A NEED FOR THAT TYPE OF VOLUNTEER MANAGEMENT. SO WE'VE, AND COMMUNICATION. SO WE'RE LOOKING INTO DIFFERENT VOLUNTEER MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE THAT DOES A BETTER JOB OF PUSHING INFORMATION OUT TO PEOPLE THAT HAVE ALREADY SIGNED UP TO VOLUNTEER. AND THEN WE HAVE BEEN TALKING WITH OUR COMMUNICATIONS TEAM ABOUT HOW DO YOU BETTER COMMUNICATE AND LINK OPPORTUNITIES TO THE COMMUNITY SO THEY KNOW WHERE TO GO. WE HAVE A GOOD RESOURCE WITH THE SCHOOLS, AND WE'RE TAPPED INTO HOW KIDS SIGN UP. SO ALL OUR EVENTS ARE IN THE PROGRAM THAT STUDENTS USE TO SIGN UP FOR HOURS. BUT I THINK WE IF WE CAN BRAND THIS AND GET PEOPLE MORE USED TO IT, THEY MAY THINK LIKE, OH, THIS WOULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET SOME HOURS. I NEED TO GO SIGN UP THROUGH THE APP THAT THEY USE. BUT I THINK THERE'S SOME POTENTIAL HERE. WE KIND OF JUST CAME UP WITH THE NAME AND SAID, LET'S START DOING THIS, BUT I THINK IT WILL, YOU KNOW, IAN VOLUNTEERED. I DON'T KNOW HOW HE EVEN FOUND OUT ABOUT IT. DID YOU TELL HIM I EMAILED HIM? YEAH. OKAY. I THINK MOST OF THE KIDS THAT ARE SIGNED UP ARE JUST EMAIL A BUNCH OF KIDS. THERE WERE SOME GUILT IN GOING NOEL'S. HEY. YEAH, I DO THINK THAT HAVING IT ON THAT OFFICIAL SHEET, AT LEAST FOR LIKE, HIGH SCHOOL KIDS OR PEOPLE THAT ARE TRYING TO GET HOURS, I THINK THAT'S GONNA BE REALLY IMPORTANT TOO, BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THEY CAN GO AND SEE, LIKE UPCOMING STUFF. AND BUT I DO THINK A PERSONAL INVITATION TO I THINK GOES A LONG WAY. I THINK PEOPLE ARE, YOU KNOW, JUST SO MUCH INFORMATION OUT THERE. SO ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO JUST LET KIDS KNOW OR WHOMEVER THAT MIGHT BE INTERESTED. YEAH. ARE WE LEVERAGING, HEALTHY NEW ALBANY AT ALL TO SEE ABOUT GETTING NON-STUDENT AGE VOLUNTEERS? YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. WE HAVE NOT REACHED OUT TO THEM ABOUT THAT. IT'S A GOOD IDEA. I WAS THINKING. THE LAST ITEM ON
[VI. Food Waste Compost Working Group Report]
THE AGENDA IS THE TOPIC OF A POTENTIAL FOR A FOURTH DROP OFF COMPOST, LOCATION. I SENT A MEMO TO EVERYONE TODAY. JUST IT KIND OF GOES OVER SOME OF THE BULLET POINTS HERE ON THE SCREEN, THIS YEAR'S BUDGET DOES INCLUDE, A LINE ITEM FOR WASTE REDUCTION AND ONE OF THE THINGS IS SPECIFICALLY FOR EXPANDING THE COMPOST PROGRAM. I KNOW WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT DOING THE CURBSIDE AS PART OF THAT EXPANSION, BUT WITH TAYLOR FARM, HAVING THE COMMUNITY GARDEN NOW AND THAT BEING MOVED OVER THERE, IT HAS COME UP AT SOME OF THE, BOARD MEETINGS, WHETHER WE SHOULD LOOK INTO ADDING A FOURTH LOCATION. SO WE DID REACH OUT TO GO ZERO TO SEE IF IT WOULD BE[01:25:01]
POSSIBLE. AND WHAT THE PRICING WOULD LOOK LIKE. SO THIS IS A BREAKDOWN OF THAT. AND WE KNOW THAT VILLAGE HALL IS THE MOST POPULAR LOCATION RIGHT NOW. JUST IT'S, YOU KNOW, THE CENTER OF NEW ALBANY. AND PEOPLE COME THROUGH HERE, BUT WE KIND OF ALSO WONDERED IF THERE WAS, PEOPLE PUTTING FOOD WASTE FROM THE GARDEN IN THERE AS WELL. AND THE SECOND MOST POPULAR LOCATION IS THE ALL SAINTS, LOCATION. AND THEY ALSO HAVE THE GARDEN FOR ALL LOCATED THERE, SO IT WAS JUST KIND OF AN INTERESTING, TIE BETWEEN THE TWO. AND WE WANTED TO GET YOUR THOUGHTS ON WHETHER THIS IS SOMETHING YOU WOULD, BE INTERESTED IN HAVING US PROCEED WITH OR WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS WERE ON THIS JUST FROM A BUDGET STANDPOINT, SO WE HAVE, IN OUR EXISTING BUDGET, WE OVER BUDGETED FOR THE SLS GRANTS BECAUSE WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT KIND OF PROJECTS WE WOULD GET, SO WE COULD ABSORB THIS COST FROM THAT LINE ITEM. SO IT WOULDN'T INCREASE OUR OVERALL BUDGET. BUT BECAUSE THIS WOULD BE NEW, IT WOULD BE A REQUEST, A RECOMMENDATION THAT THIS BOARD WOULD MAKE TO COUNCIL. AND THEN CASEY WOULD TAKE THAT TO CITY COUNCIL TO SEE IF CITY COUNCIL WANTED TO EXPAND THE PROGRAM. IT WAS JUST A THOUGHT, BUT WE'VE BEEN OUT THERE A LOT AND, IT COMES UP WHEN WE'RE TAKING PEOPLE THROUGH THE COMMUNITY GARDENS. IT SEEMS TO GET A LOT OF VISITOR TRAFFIC. SO I DON'T KNOW IF IT WOULD BECOME AS POPULAR AS VILLAGE HALL, BUT PEOPLE ARE GOING THERE ANYWAYS. MAYBE THEY WOULD JUST TAKE THEIR COMPOST BAG AND DROP IT IN THE BIN, IT'S SOMETHING WE COULD TEST OUT TO AND IF IT DOESN'T GET GOOD USE, PULL IT BACK NEXT YEAR. WOULD IT? WHERE WOULD YOU PUT THE ENCLOSURE? SO THERE ALREADY ISN'T. THERE ARE TWO ENCLOSURES OUT THERE NOW, SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS. WE SHOULD GO BACK OUT. SO NOW THERE'S A DROP OFF LOOP BEHIND THE GARDEN. SO THERE'S TWO SHEDS AT THE BACK OF THE GARDEN, AND THERE'S A DROP OFF LOOP. THERE'S A DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE AND A RECYCLING ENCLOSURE ALREADY ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THAT LOOP. AND THEN THERE'S AN ENCLOSURE THAT YOU KNOW, IT MIGHT BE WHERE THE GARDENS HAVE COMPOST DROPPED OFF, BUT WE HAVE OPTIONS. WE COULD PUT BINS IN EITHER OF THOSE ENCLOSURES THAT ALREADY EXIST. DOES THAT GET VISIBILITY? NOT GREAT. YOU WOULD KIND OF HAVE TO KNOW OKAY. YOU KNOW, WE COULD, WHICH IS NO DIFFERENT THAN THE TEMPLE. I MEAN, WELL, WELL, AND ACTUALLY, I GUESS THAT WAS, IN MY OPINION, THE ONE OF THE BENEFITS OF MAYBE PUTTING ONE OUT HERE IS ALL THE OTHER ONES ARE DESTINATION. YOU DON'T KNOW. THEY'RE THERE UNLESS YOU'RE GOING THERE LIKE CITY HALL, LIKE YOU'RE NOT JUST DRIVING BY THE PARKING LOT HERE.SO I WAS THINKING, I MEAN, FOR FOLKS THAT ARE VISITING TAYLOR FARM AND OUT THERE, THEY'RE LIKE, OH, THERE'S A COMPOSTING DROP OFF, THAT'S SOMETHING I COULD MAYBE TRY OR. YEAH, I WAS JUST THINKING THIS COULD BE MORE OF A MORE VISIBLE, DROP OFF RATHER THAN THE OTHER THREE THAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY. YOU KNOW, WE COULD DO SOME SORT OF SIGNAGE OR YOU KNOW, EVEN BY THE PARKING LOT, NOT JUST COMMUNITY GARDEN, BUT JUST FOLKS VISITING THE PARK. YEAH, YOU KNOW, AS THEY'RE PARKING, IF THERE'S, YOU KNOW, WE DROP THE SIGN THAT SAYS COMPOST DROP OFF AND THEN ARROW, JUST SO, AND WE COULD DO SOMETHING LIKE A YARD SIGN ON A TEMPORARY BASIS, WE ACTUALLY ARE STARTING TO WORK ON, LIKE, A MASTER SIGN PLAN FOR THE ENTIRE PARK, BECAUSE WE KNOW WE NEED WAYFINDING SIGNS. WE NEED SOME EDUCATIONAL SIGNS, AND SO I THINK WE COULD DO SOME PERMANENT, YOU KNOW, COMPOST DROP OFF THIS WAY EVEN WHEN PEOPLE ARE DRIVING IN, BECAUSE IT'S A PRETTY EASY LOOP TO JUST IT'S EXACTLY LIKE BACK HERE. JUST SWING BY, GET OUT AND PUT IT IN THERE. YEAH. AND I MEAN, THE EARTH PEAK. I MEAN, I KNOW RIGHT NOW WE'RE WE'RE GOME CURBE STUFF WITH THEM, BUT YOU KNOW, THAT IT JUST SEEMS COOL WITH LIKE, THE COMMUNITY GARDEN, THAT APPARATUS THAT THEY HAD THAT ACTUALLY PRODUCES, OH, FERTILIZER. I MEAN, WE HAVE A DROP OFF THERE. YOU DUMP IT IN THERE AND THEN PEOPLE ARE IT'S PRODUCING FERTILIZER YOU CAN USE IN THE COMMUNITY GARDEN. THAT WOULD BE REALLY COOL. IT'D BE PRETTY COOL. QUITE CLOSED LOOP TYPE DEAL. I MEAN, THAT COULD BE DONE IN THE FUTURE. I DO THINK, AT LEAST EXPERIMENTING WITH ANOTHER DROP OFF AT TAYLOR ONCE THIS PHASE GETS OPEN WOULD BE WORTH EXPLORING. THEN IF IT IT DROPS OFF. AND I DON'T KNOW, I MEAN, I FEEL LIKE SERVICE, THE SERVICE CENTER IS THE LEAST USE,
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BUT, GEOGRAPHICALLY, THIS ONE DOESN'T REALLY SUPERSEDE THAT ONE. NOT DURING PUMPKIN TIME.YEAH YEAH, THAT'S TRUE. THAT ONE WILL STILL BE THERE. WELL, I MEAN, YOU DID BRING A GOOD POINT UP THAT I THINK VISIBILITY IN GENERAL IS SOMETHING THAT MIGHT BE WORTH TO REVISIT BECAUSE THE ONE THAT PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT ISN'T NECESSARILY IN THE MOST TRAVELED AREA. I DON'T KNOW THAT IT WOULD MOVE THIS ONE FROM HERE, WHICH IS THE BIG PUSH FOR SIGNAGE, WAS MAKING IT REALLY APPARENT THAT THIS IS WHERE THIS THING WAS, BUT I'M. YEAH, I'M IN TOTAL AGREEMENT THAT I THINK THIS SHOULDN'T BE SOMETHING THAT WE'RE PUTTING BACK HERE. MY ONLY CHALLENGE TO STAFF WAS, IF WE'RE GOING TO BE HANDCUFFED AT ALL WITH BUDGET, WHICH MAYBE WE AREN'T, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ADDRESSING SOME OF THE DEMANDS THAT CAME FROM THE SURVEY THAT WAS TAKEN, WHICH WAS THERE WAS QUITE A FEW MULTIFAMILY HOMES THAT WERE KIND OF A LITTLE LOST. OR HOW DO WE DO WHAT WE WANT TO DO, SOME OF THAT WAS CENTERED AROUND PICKUP. I REALIZE, RESIDENTIAL PICKUP COMPOSTING, BUT I THINK IT WAS JUST IN GENERAL, LIKE THOSE PEOPLE WERE HAVING TO TRAVEL FAR THE FARTHEST OF ANYBODY. SO I HAD I HAD ASKED ADRIAN AND CHELSEA IF WE COULD, CHECK IN WITH THE CITY OF COLUMBUS AND WESTERVILLE TO SEE WHERE THEIR PICKUP POINTS ARE. AND IS THERE SOME OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT SOMETHING THAT MIGHT BE SITTING IN KIND OF A NO MAN'S ZONE, WHETHER IT'S OUT TOWARDS TARGET OR THAT KIND OF AREA. AND I KNOW THAT THIS WOULD FIT SOMEWHAT INTO THAT, IF WE COULD BUILD IT UP. BUT WHETHER IT'S THAT OR LIKE COLLEGE AVENUE OR SOMETHIN, I HAPPEN TO BRING THE EXISTING SITES TO FRANKLIN COUNTY, OKAY. AND THERE'S A BIG VOID RIGHT FROM THE NORTHEAST. YEAH. SO THAT WAS THE ONLY THING. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IF THERE WAS A REASON TO BELIEVE THAT THIS WAS A ONCE, A ONCE AND NOT ANOTHER, THAT WE JUST GAVE IT A LITTLE EXTRA TIME. BUT, I GUESS I'LL LOOK TO YOU IF YOU FEEL LIKE THIS IS SOMETHING WE COULD DO. BECAUSE I WAS GONNA SAY I DIDN'T DISAGREE THAT, YOU KNOW, IF THE PUBLIC WORKS IS NOT GETTING A LOT IF WE TOOK EVEN JUST ONE CAM FROM THERE TO TRY IT OUT AND SAW WHAT KIND OF DEMAND IT WOULD PICK UP AND THEN PULL THE TRIGGER ON IT, THAT MIGHT ALSO BE A WAY TO KIND OF EASE INTO IT. YEAH, I THINK WE COULD. I KNOW THAT THERE'S STILL A COST OF EXTRA PICKUP. I'M NOT SAYING THEY'RE NOT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO DO US A SOLID. YEAH. I MEAN, GEOGRAPHICALLY, I LIKE HAVING ONE UP TOWARDS THE NORTHERN PART OF THE COMMUNITY, SO I DO THINK GEOGRAPHICALLY WE'RE COVERED WITH THE THREE LOCATIONS WE HAVE. I THINK THIS IS MORE JUST A DESTINATION. IT WOULD IT BE CONVENIENT FOR PEOPLE AND MAYBE IT WOULD, YOU KNOW, ENCOURAGE MORE PEOPLE TO COMPOST? YEAH, I THINK IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE. I CAN'T I HAVEN'T BEEN OUT TO THE NEW PARKING LOT, SO IT'S HARD FOR ME TO PICTURE HOW EASY THAT WOULD BE IF I'M NOT ACTUALLY VISITING THE PARK. MAYBE I'M GOING TO TARGET AND I WANT TO PULL IN AND DROP IT OFF. WOULD THAT BE FAIRLY CONVENIENT OR NOT? IT'S PRETTY EASY. SO NOW BOTH. THERE'S AN ENTRY DRIVE AND AN EXIT DRIVE. SO YOU WOULD JUST MAKE GO IN IN THE EASTERNMOST DRIVE IT LOOPS BEHIND THE SHEDS, THE WHAT WE CALL THE SHEDS OR THE BATHROOM AND THE STORAGE SHED. THE ENCLOSURES ARE UP THERE. AND THEN YOU WOULD JUST GO OUT THE WESTERN DRIVE ONTO DUBLIN-GRANVILLE ROAD. YEAH. IT SEEMS TO ME I'M ALWAYS LOOKING FOR OKAY, I'M HERE, I'M ALREADY GOING HERE. I'M GOING TO TAKE MY COMPOST WITH ME LIKE, WHAT'S THE MOST CONVENIENT ROUTE? RIGHT? BUT I REALLY LIKE THE IDEA OF CASEY BROUGHT UP OF. THIS IS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY JUST TO EDUCATE ONE MORE TIME. PEOPLE WHO MISSED OUR, YOU KNOW, EMAILS AND OUR SURVEYS, ETC. LIKE IF I'M JUST VISITING THE PARK, IT'S A SIGN MAYBE, YOU KNOW, TO JUST KIND OF REALLY QUICK INTRODUCTION TO THE COMPOSTING PROGRAM. WHAT IS IT? HOW DO I PARTICIPATE? OR MAYBE JUST A QR CODE LIKE, YEAH, I'M JUST GOING. THOUGHTS FROM THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE DOES. I THINK IT MAKES SENSE. I THINK IT'S WORKING. IT'S THE GREEN LIGHT ON. YEAH, IT SHOULD BE. YEAH. I THINK IT MAKES SENSE BEING OUT THERE, BEING INVOLVED WITH TO SEE HOW IT'S GROWING. AND I THINK IT IS AN EASY LOOP ACCESSIBLE. A LOT OF FAMILIES COME OUT WITH THEIR KIDS TO USE THE PLAYGROUND FOR DIFFERENT SEASONS. I THINK TO ME IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE TO HAVE IT THERE, I THINK IT TIES IN WITH, YOU KNOW, DISCUSSIONS OF THE PARK WAY BACK ABOUT PROGRAMING AND EDUCATION AND SORT OF THIS IS LIKE A NEW WAY THAT'S SORT OF OUR ENTRANCE POINT. AND SO I THINK IT JUST LOOKS GOOD TO HAVE THAT HOLISTIC SENSE OF, HERE'S OUR COMMUNITY GARDEN, HERE'S HOW WE RECYCLE, HERE'S HOW WE DO THINGS. I THINK IT'S A I THINK IT'S A DESTINATION SPOT. IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE. I THINK IT'S DEFINITELY WORTH TESTING
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OUT. AND YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT THE MONEY IN THE BUDGET. WE JUST NEED TO REALLOCATE IT. SO, YEAH, I THINK IT'LL BE AN EASY ASK. YEAH. OKAY. WELL, IF YOU GUYS WANT TO MAKE A MOTION TO RECOMMEND THAT EXPANSION TO A FOURTH DROP OFF, AND THEN I THINK WE COULD CASEY IN AND STAFF CAN TAKE THAT TO COUNCIL AGENDA, TO GET THEIR DECISION. I MOVED TO RECOMMEND THAT WE ADD A FOURTH DROP OFF, AND I DON'T REMEMBER THE REST OF IT, BUT. JUST SPORTS DROP OFF AT TAYLOR FARM PARK. I'LL SECOND. MISS GALLO? YES? MR. SCHUMACHER? YES, MR. BARNES? YES. MR. CONWAY? YES, MISS SCOTT? YES. MOTION PASSES. ALL RIGHT. OTHER BUSINESS STAFF HAVE ANY OTHER[VIII. Other Business]
BUSINESS I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS TONIGHT? I JUST HAVE ONE THING I WANT TO MENTION, THIS IS ACTUALLY FOR A PLUG FOR THE IDEA PANEL. I PASSED OUT LITTLE, CARDS TO EVERYBODY. WE HAVE A NEW PROGRAM THAT WE'RE LAUNCHING CALLED COMMUNITY CONNECTORS, AND IT'S BASICALLY THE MODERN DAY WELCOME WAGON. WE'RE LOOKING FOR VOLUNTEERS, AT LEAST ONE FROM EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD BE IDEAL TO, SERVE AS A COMMUNITY CONNECTOR AND BE SOMEONE THAT WELCOMES NEW NEIGHBORS TO THE, NEIGHBORHOOD AND GETS THEM CONNECTED WITH THE CITY AND KIND OF, KIND OF LIKE THE LIAISON BETWEEN THE RESIDENT AND THE CITY AND OTHER ENTITIES. SO I JUST PASSED THAT OUT TO YOU, SO YOU'RE AWARE OF THIS NEW PROGRAM, YOU GUYS ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE ALL PRETTY CONNECTED INTO THE COMMUNITY. SO, EVEN IF YOU'RE NOT INTERESTED, MAYBE YOU KNOW SOMEONE IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD THAT MIGHT BE INTERESTED. SO, THERE'S A QR CODE ON THIS THAT YOU CAN SCAN AND GO TO THE WEBSITE AND, AND SHARE WITH YOUR NEIGHBORS VERY NICE. BUT THAT'S ALL I HAD.ADDITIONALLY NOTHING ELSE. SAB DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING? I JUST HAVE. WELL, I'LL CALL MEMBERS
[IX. Poll Members for Comment]
FOR ANY COMMENT EMAILS. HAVE ANY OTHER THINGS TO SHARE, I JUST WANTED TO BRIEFLY SHARE. I SAT THROUGH A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT EVENTS, IN OUR LONG BREAK. ONE WAS A PRESENTATION BY THE ORGANICS RECYCLING GATEWAYS, THIS IS A GROUP THAT'S BASED NEAR CLEVELAND. AND THEY'RE WE'RE JUST TRYING TO HAVE AN EDUCATIONAL FORUM TO TALK ABOUT HOW CITIES CAN GET INVOLVED WITH CITIES, AND OTHER GOVERNMENT ENTITIES CAN GET INVOLVED WITH, DOING ORGANIC RECYCLING, THAT WAS A GREAT PRESENTATION FROM SWACO AND UPPER ARLINGTON. I'VE PASSED THAT TO STAFF, AND I SHARED IT WITH, LAURA AND PETE SO THAT PROBABLY AT OUR NEXT SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING, WE MIGHT DIGEST THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE. AND IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT'S ENLIGHTENING TO SHARE, BRING THAT TO THE GROUP, AND THEN ADRIAN JUMPED OUT, BUT, SHE AND I BOTH ATTENDED, THE WEEK PRIOR TO THAT, A EVENT THAT WAS FACILITATED BY THE FRANKLIN SOIL AND WATER CONSERVANCY. THE POLLINATOR PATHWAYS, IT'S AGAIN THEY THEY WERE GETTING SOME FEEDBACK THAT PEOPLE JUST WANTED TO UNDERSTAND HOW TO BETTER FACILITATE DOING POLLINATOR PATHWAYS IN FRANKLIN COUNTY AND SO RATHER THAN TAKE ON THAT PROJECT THEMSELVES, THEY JUST OPENED UP AND SAID, ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO COME. SO THERE WERE FOLKS FROM WESTERVILLE, CITY COUNCIL, THEY'VE GOT A SUSTAINABILITY PERSON FROM THERE AS WELL. BEXLEY HAD A FEW FOLKS THAT CAME FROM THE CITY, A LOT OF IT WAS JUST RESIDENTS, SO IT WAS A VERY INTERESTING, COLORFUL CONVERSATION ALL THE WAY AROUND, I WOULD I WANTED TO TOUCH BASE WITH, ADRIAN, TO FIND OUT IF THERE'S ANY KIND OF THERE, THERE THAT WE WANT TO PROPOSE TO KIND OF WORK ON, BUT I KNEW IT WAS GOING TO BE TOO MUCH FOR THIS TONIGHT'S MEETING. SO WE'LL COME BACK IN AUGUST AND PRESENT SOMETHING THERE. OKAY THAT'S ALL I HAVE. SO IF THERE'S NOTHING FURTHER, I MOVE TO ADJOURN THE MEETING AT. WE'LL CALL IT 8:10 P.M. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND? THANK YOU. LAURA. I