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          CALL TO ORDER THE AUGUST 5TH, 2024 MEETING OF THE, NEW ALBANY PARKS AND TRAILS ADVISORY BOARD WITH OUR CLERK, KRISTINA. TO THE ROLL, PLEASE. MR. TREBEK HERE, MISS STEELMAN HERE, MISS BARK. 
          MR. HAGERMAN, MISS SEGNINI HERE, MISS DOTEN HERE, MISS SCHAEFER HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER. FELLOWS HERE. THERE ARE FIVE VOTING MEMBERS PRESENT. WE HAVE A QUORUM. THANK YOU. NEXT ITEM ON 
          [III. Action on minutes: March 4, 2024]
THE OTHER WILL BE THE, ACTION ON THE MINUTES FOR MARCH THE 4TH, 2024, WE ALL HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THOSE. OKAY. NO CHANGES. I DID NOT SEE ANY CHANGES. I ASSUME WITHOUT COMMENT THERE ISN'T ANY, CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE? MOTION TO APPROVE THE MARCH 4TH MINUTES. SECOND. THANK YOU, MISS STILLMAN. YES, MISS. STOUGHTON? YES, MISS. AGNINI. YES, MISS. 
          SCHOPPER I'LL ABSTAIN BECAUSE I WAS NOT AT THE LAST MEETING. MR. STRUBING? YES MOTION PASSES. 
          [IV. Additions or corrections to agenda]
THERE ARE FOUR VOTES TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS SUBMITTED. GOOD. THANK YOU, IS THERE ANY ADDITIONS TO THE, AGENDA AT THIS POINT? NONE FROM STAFF, NOTHING PASSED. THANK YOU, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE SPEAKERS THEY'RE GOING TO HEAR THIS EVENING. WOULD YOU STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND? AND WE COULD ADMINISTER THE OATH, PLEASE. IF YOU'RE GOING TO SPEAK THAT IS. 
          DO YOU SWEAR AND TELL THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? THANK YOU. OKAY. I ASSUME THERE ARE NO 
          [VI. Cases]
OTHER SPEAKERS. OKAY. VERY GOOD. TONIGHT WE'RE REVIEWING THE CASE NUMBER F DP 532024. FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR PARKLAND AND OPEN SPACE REVIEW. WHO WOULD LIKE. THANK YOU. SO AS YOU MENTIONED, THIS APPLICATION IS A FOR REVIEW AND RECOMMENDATION REGARDING THE SUITABILITY OF PARKLAND AND OPEN SPACE AS PART OF THE PROPOSED HAMLET DEVELOPMENT. THE SITE IS LOCATED AT CENTRAL COLLEGE AND 605 POINT OUT SOME I'M SURE EVERYONE'S FAMILIAR WITH THIS AREA, BUT JUST FOR FOLKS WATCHING AT HOME. BUT THE PROPERTY UP HERE TO THE NORTH, THAT'S THE OLD DISCOVER BUILDING, EVERYONE'S FAVORITE, FAST FOOD RESTAURANT RIGHT HERE WITH TACO BELL, AND THEN WE'VE GOT THE CVG BUILDING DOWN HERE. SO I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE FAMILIAR WITH THIS APPLICATION, IT'S, BEEN AROUND FOR ABOUT TWO, 2 TO 3 YEARS AT THIS POINT, BUT, WE WANTED TO TAKE A SECOND AND SHARE SOME RESOURCES WITH THE BOARD FOLKS AT HOME. AND ANYONE WHO'S WATCHING THIS AT A LATER DATE. SO WE DO HAVE A LOT OF INFORMATION ABOUT THE HISTORY OF THIS APPLICATION ON THE CITY WEBSITE. WE HAVE A HAMLET MICROSITE, WITH A QR CODE UP THERE ON THE SCREEN. WE ALSO HAVE A LINK TO OUR KNOW OUR QR CODE THAT WILL TAKE FOLKS TO OUR NEW BOARDS AND COMMISSION CASES DASHBOARD, WHERE FOLKS CAN FIND THE ENTIRE SUBMITTAL PACKAGE THAT YOU WERE REVIEWING TONIGHT. 
          ANY UPDATES TO THAT PACKAGE WILL BE UPLOADED ONTO THE DASHBOARD, AS WELL AS A CURRENT SCHEDULE. I JUST WANTED TO TAKE SOME TIME TO WALK YOU THROUGH HISTORY, JUST REALLY BRIEFLY, WE ONLY HAVE AN HOUR TONIGHT, SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE I LEAVE ENOUGH TIME FOR THE APPLICANT'S PRESENTATION AND SOME QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS. BUT JUST WANT TO TAKE YOU GUYS THROUGH THIS, CASE HISTORY. JUST FOR A SECOND. SO FOR THIS APPLICATION, WHICH IS SIMILAR TO A LOT OF OTHER APPLICATIONS IN NEW ALBANY, THERE'S A 4 OR 3 STEP PROCESS BEFORE CONSTRUCTION CAN BEGIN ON A PROPERTY. LIKE THIS ONE. SO A REZONING IS USUALLY THE FIRST STEP. SO THIS SITE WAS REZONED. THE REZONING WAS APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL IN DECEMBER OF 2022 TO ALLOW FOR THE PROPOSED, HAMLET DEVELOPMENT. THE HAMLET DEVELOPMENT IS A MIXED USE PROJECT, AS YOU WILL SEE IN THE REST OF THE PRESENTATION IN YOUR STAFF REPORT, DURING THE REZONING, COUNCIL, REVIEWED AND APPROVED SEVERAL STANDARDS, TO BE PUT IN PLACE, FOR THIS SITE. THIS INCLUDES DENSITY AT SIX UNITS AN ACRE. THERE WAS A TRAFFIC STUDY THAT WAS REVIEWED AND APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL, 
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AND THEN LATER THE CITY HIRED, A THIRD PARTY TO VERIFY THE RESULTS OF THAT TRAFFIC STUDY, THAT WAS ALL DURING THE TIME OF THE REZONING. AND THERE'S A WHOLE LIST OF OTHER DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THAT TEXT SO THAT, AGAIN, HAPPENED ALL AT THE END OF 2022, WHERE WE'RE AT TODAY IS THIS GREEN BOX OR THE MIDDLE BOX HERE FOR A FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN, A FINAL PLAT IS ALSO REQUIRED FOR THIS PROPERTY, BUT THAT IS JUST REVIEWED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION. ONCE THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPLICATION IS APPROVED, THE APPLICANT MUST GO THROUGH THE ENGINEERING AND BUILDING PERMIT PROCESS TO RECEIVE FINAL APPROVAL ON THE CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS. AND ONCE THOSE ARE APPROVED, THE CITY WILL RELEASE THEM TO START CONSTRUCTION. DIVING A LITTLE BIT DEEPER INTO WHERE WE'RE AT TODAY. SO AGAIN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPLICATION, WITH FINAL DEVELOP PLAN APPLICATIONS. THIS BOARD IS VERY FAMILIAR WITH REVIEWING THESE TYPES OF PROPOSALS. WE USUALLY SEE MORE DETAILED SITE PLANS, SOME ARCHITECTURAL ELEVATIONS, PROGRAMING SIZES OF UNITS, SOME ENGINEERING PLANS ARE INCLUDED, AS WELL AS PARK AND PARKS AND OPEN SPACE. WHICH WAS WHY WE'RE HERE TONIGHT IN FRONT OF THE PARKS AND TREES ADVISORY BOARD. SO THE PUBLIC PROCESS FOR THIS APPLICATION, THE APPLICANT HAS TO GO BEFORE THREE BOARDS, THE TAB PARKS AND TRAILS ADVISORY BOARD, WHICH IS THIS BOARD HERE IS AN ADVISORY BOARD WHO REVIEWS THE PROPOSED PARKS AND OPEN SPACE DEDICATIONS AND MAKES A RECOMMENDATION TO PLANNING COMMISSION, WHO TAKES FINAL ACTION, FOR SOME REASON, MY WORDS AFTER ARCHITECTURAL HAVE BEEN REMOVED FOR SOME REASON. APOLOGIES ABOUT THAT. 
          BUT THE APPLICANT ALSO HAD TO GO TO THE ARCHITECTURE REVIEW BOARD AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO PLANNING COMMISSION. COMMISSION IS ALSO DELETED ON HERE, SO I APOLOGIZE ABOUT THAT. I'LL GET THAT FIXED. AND THEN, NEIGHBORS WITHIN 200FT OF THE APPLICATION ARE NOTIFIED OF THESE MEETINGS. 
          THEY WERE NOTIFIED OF THIS MEETING TONIGHT. AND IT'S POSTED ON OUR WEBSITE. AND THAT DASHBOARD THAT I EXPLAINED TO YOU JUST A MOMENT AGO. SO AGAIN, REALLY QUICKLY, I, WE THREW TOGETHER A CHART THAT EXPLAINS THE DIFFERENT COMPONENTS OF A FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN, A REVIEW OF A FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPLICATION, AND WHICH BOARD HAS REVIEWED PURVIEW OVER EACH COMPONENT OF THIS. SO WE HAVE THINGS LIKE LAND USE AND DENSITY COMPLIANCE, TRAFFIC ARCHITECTURE, SETBACKS, PARKING AND OPEN SPACE. AND PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY. SO AS YOU CAN SEE ON THIS CHART, THIS BOARD, THE PARKS AND TRAILS ADVISORY BOARD, IS CHARGED IN OUR CITY CODE WITH ENSURING THAT PARKLAND AND OPEN SPACE, PROPOSALS ARE MEETING THE STANDARDS OF CITY CODE AS WELL AS, FOR PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY. THESE CHARTS AND ASSOCIATED SLIDES ARE ALL AVAILABLE ON THAT HAMLET WEBSITE, AS WELL. SO NOW ON TO THE APPLICATION. SO AS I MENTIONED, THIS IS THE HAMLET APPLICATION. THE HAMLET DEVELOPMENT IS A MIXED USE, DEVELOPMENT HERE. SO THE PART THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE FOCUSING ON THE REVIEW OF THIS BOARD IS ABOUT THE PARKLAND AND OPEN SPACE. SO I HOPE YOU NOTICE THIS IN YOUR PACKETS. BUT THESE AREAS ARE USUALLY, SHADED WITHIN SOME SORT OF GREEN COLOR OR SOME SORT OF HATCHING THAT CORRESPONDS WITH THIS LEGEND OVER HERE. AND I KNOW THEY'RE A LITTLE BIT HARD TO SEE ON THE SCREEN HERE, BUT THEY'RE A LITTLE BIT CLEARER. 
          AND THE PACKET MATERIAL, WE ALSO, I KNOW THAT YOU GUYS HAVE REQUESTED TO SEE SITE PLANS OVERLAID ON AERIAL IMAGERY. IN THE PAST. SO WE'VE OVERLAID THIS ONTO AN AERIAL IMAGE HERE FOR YOU THIS AFTERNOON. AND IT'S A LITTLE BIT HARDER TO SEE, BUT HOPEFULLY IT MAKES SOME OF THOSE GREEN AREAS POP UP A LITTLE BIT MORE. SO, THIS IS A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT. THE ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT IS REALLY CENTRALIZED AROUND THIS, THIS PUBLIC SPACE HERE. AND THEN IT IS DEVELOPED AND BISECTED AROUND THE SUGAR RUN CREEK, WHICH GENERALLY RUNS IN THIS AREA. SO AROUND THIS AREA, THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO DEVELOP A OR PRESERVE THE SPACE AND DEVELOP, JUST OVER AN EIGHT ACRE PUBLIC PARK, AS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT APPLICATION. AND WE'LL DIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE INTO THAT IN A SECOND. SO OVERALL, GOING BACK TO OUR CITY CODE, THE HAMLET ZONING TEXT AND THE ENGAGE NEW ALBANY STRATEGIC PLAN, CITY CODE AND THE HAMLET ZONING TEXT, BOTH REQUIRE THE DEVELOPER TO DEDICATE 25% OF THE TOTAL DEVELOPABLE AREA, AS PARKLAND AND OPEN SPACE. THAT EQUATES TO ABOUT EIGHT, JUST OVER EIGHT ACRES. THE APPLICATION OR THE APPLICANT AS NOTED IN THE STAFF REPORT, IS EXCEEDING THIS REQUIREMENT BY PROVIDING, TEN POINTS. SIX ACRES OF PARKLAND AND OPEN SPACE, WHICH EQUATES TO ABOUT 33% OF THE OVERALL DEVELOPABLE AREA, THIS PARKLAND AND OPEN SPACE IS BROKEN UP INTO MULTIPLE RESERVE AREAS. THIS CHART IS FROM YOUR STAFF REPORT. IT'S ALSO, SIMILAR CHART IS ALSO INCLUDED ON THE SITE PLAN 
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SUBMITTAL, AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE'S THESE AREAS ARE ALL DIFFERENT SIZES, BUT THE MOST, PROMINENT, AREA HERE IS THE SUGAR RUN PARK AT JUST OVER EIGHT ACRES IN SIZE. SO FOCUSING A LITTLE BIT MORE IN ON THAT, I DON'T WANT TO STEAL TOO MUCH OF THE APPLICANT'S THUNDER HERE, BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH THIS AS WELL. BUT, THIS WAS INCLUDED IN YOUR IN YOUR PACKET. THIS IS THE MAIN CENTRAL PARK AREA, THE SUGAR RUN PARK. AND AS YOU CAN SEE THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO PRESERVE THIS AREA AND MONETIZE IT AND ENHANCE IT SO THAT IT SERVES AS A GATHERING PLACE FOR THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY. SOME OF THESE IMPROVEMENTS ARE VERY SIMILAR TO THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WERE DONE AROUND THE ROSE RUN CORRIDOR, INCLUDING WALKING PATHS, THERE ARE ALSO SOME NATURE PLAY ELEMENTS THAT ARE INCORPORATED INTO THE DEVELOPMENT. THOSE WILL BE LOCATED GENERALLY IN THIS AREA HERE, I BELIEVE THERE'S A TWO THIRDS MILE LOOP OF LEISURE TRAIL. THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT. AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE, A UNIQUE ADDITION TO PARKLAND AND OPEN SPACE THAT REALLY HAVEN'T SEEN IN NEW ALBANY. SO FAR, WHICH IS THE ADDITION OF PUBLIC ART, SOME BIRDHOUSES AND SOME SCULPTURES, CLEARLY THESE THINGS ARE STILL BEING, YOU KNOW, IRONED OUT AND FINALIZED. AND WE'LL WORK WITH THE APPLICANT, BEFORE ANYTHING IS INSTALLED ON THE PROPERTY. ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE DEVELOPMENT IN THIS CORNER HERE, THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO INSTALL A PLAYGROUND. THEY WILL USE THE SIMILAR OR THEY WILL USE THE EXACT SAME, PLAYGROUND MANUFACTURER SUPPLIER THAT THE CITY HAS USED IN RECENT PARK, PARK UPGRADES, AND THE COMMUNITY THOSE IMAGES ARE SHOWN HERE AND HERE. THESE SPACES WILL BOTH THE BOTH, THE, NATURE PLAY AREA AS WELL AS THE PLAYGROUND AREA WILL BOTH BE BOTH OF THEM WILL BE ACCESSIBLE TO EVERYONE OF ALL DIFFERENT ABILITIES. AND MAKE SURE WE HAVE THAT PORT AND PLAY SURFACE THAT'S SHOWN HERE ON THE SCREEN. THE APPLICANT DOES PROPOSE TO INSTALL BENCHES, IN THE IN THESE AREAS YOU WILL SEE A CONDITION OF APPROVAL IN YOUR STAFF REPORT, THAT TRASH CANS AND RECYCLING BINS BE ADDED AND AREAS THROUGHOUT THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S BECOME VERY COMMON AT PARKLAND AND OPEN SPACE IN NEW ALBANY. SO THAT'S A CONDITION OF APPROVAL FOR THIS APPLICATION, AND WITH THAT, I THINK I COVERED EVERYTHING. AND I'LL LET THE APPLICANT PROVIDE A PRESENTATION IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. GOOD. WE HEAR FROM THE AKRON POLICE. THANK YOU. SO, JUSTIN LYDA WITH STEINER ASSOCIATES. IT'S BEEN TWO YEARS SINCE I'VE BEEN BACK HERE. DAUGHTER IS ACTUALLY STARTING COLLEGE NEXT WEEK, AND, WE'VE BEEN PRETTY EXCITED. WE'VE BEEN WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH THE CITY AND ALL OF OUR CONSULTANTS OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE FOLLOW ALL THE COMPONENTS THAT WERE IN THE PRELIMINARY ZONING TEXT AND THE PRELIMINARY APPROVAL, BUT THEN ALSO TRYING TO ENHANCE IT EVEN MORE WITH THE UNIQUE KIND OF FEATURES ON THE SITE, WE KEEP MYERS JOINED OUR TEAM AS ONE OF OUR LANDSCAPE TEAM MEMBERS, ALONG WITH MH, AND, WE'VE BEEN MEETING REGULARLY, WORKING ON ALL THE LAST REFINEMENTS OF THE PLAN, EXTENSIVE TREE SURVEYS. WE'VE HAD ARBORISTS OUT CHECKING ON VERY SPECIFIC TREES THAT WE IDENTIFIED THAT WERE KIND OF BEAUTIFUL SPECIMEN TREES WITH A COUPLE 54 INCH PIN OAKS THAT WE REALLY WANT TO PRESERVE. AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING TO PLAN AROUND THAT OVER THE PAST COUPL, COUPLE OF YEARS. I DON'T REALLY HAVE MUCH MORE TO ADD, BUT I DID WANT TO START WITH THIS IMAGE. THIS ACTUALLY GOES BACK TO 2021, WHEN WE KIND OF FIRST CAME HERE TO INTRODUCE THE PROJECT, AND THIS WAS A CONCEPT WE HAD ALWAYS BEEN USING AS AN ORGANIZATIONAL ELEMENT FOR THE PROJECT, WHICH WAS THAT WE COULD ESTABLISH THIS GREENWAY ALL THE WAY THROUGH ALBANY, THAT COULD COME ALL THE WAY FROM THE LINKS DOWN TO, TAYLOR FARM. THIS WAS ONE OF OUR MAIN SUPPORTERS WAS ACTUALLY BILL RESCH, AND HE CAME AND SPOKE IN FAVOR OF THE PROJECT NUMEROUS TIMES. AND WE SAT WITH HIM AND KIND OF DISCUSSED THIS IN LENGTH. WE ACTUALLY HE WAS CONVINCED THAT THERE WAS A PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION UNDER 161, AND WE ACTUALLY HAD ONE OF OUR KIND OF OUR NEW INTERNS, GO UNDER AND CLIMB UNDER AND DID CONFIRM THAT THAT CONNECTION IS THERE. SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS FRAMEWORK COULD STILL WORK IN THE LONG TERM, WE CONTINUE TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH FOLKS TO OUR WEST. ALL OF THOSE DOTTED LINES. IN FACT, HE MENTIONED TO SITTING HERE. SO, WHEN THE SUGAR RUN GOES BEHIND THEIR, THEIR PROPERTY AS WELL, 
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THAT THIS COULD ULTIMATELY BE ESTABLISHED. SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE AGAIN, THAT THAT FRAMEWORK, ALWAYS REMAINED, SO THIS GIVES JUST KIND OF AN OVERVIEW OF THE CONTEXT OF THE SITE. AND AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE THAT THAT SHOULD RUN PARK AND THE CREEK REALLY BECOME THAT, THAT KEY ORGANIZATIONAL ELEMENT FOR THE SITE AND THAT EIGHT ACRES, WE HAVE SINGLE FAMILY TO THE, TO THE EAST AND SINGLE FAMILY TO THE WEST. AND THEN THE, THE LITTLE BIT MORE DENSE COMPONENT OF THE PROJECT IS NORTH OF THE CREEK. AND WEST OF 605. AGAIN, THIS I SAW IN THE EARLIER PACKET OR ONE OF THE THINGS WE WANTED TO DO IN THIS PLAN IS ESTABLISH A SERIES OF OPEN SPACES AND POCKET PARKS THAT ESTABLISH KIND OF THE FRAMEWORK OF EACH INDIVIDUAL NEIGHBORHOOD OF THE PROJECT. SO THE SET OF POINTER ON IT, THERE. THERE WE GO, SO YOU CAN SEE THIS BLUE IS ACTUALLY ALSO PART OF THE RESERVE AREA. SO IT'S JUST DIFFERENT HATCHING. SO THAT COMPONENT THAT ESTABLISHES SORT OF THE CORE OF THE EAST SIDE, WE HAVE A KEY POCKET PARK HERE THAT SUPPORTS THIS RESIDENTIAL, A VERY LINEAR KIND OF PARK IN THIS AREA THAT AGAIN, THESE TOWNHOMES FRONT ONTO AND THEN ANOTHER ONE IN THIS AREA. SO THAT AS MANY RESIDENTIAL UNITS AS POSSIBLE HAVE THE ABILITY TO FRONT ONTO AN OPEN SPACE AND VEGETATED AREAS, OR IF THEY CHOOSE TO FRONT ONTO A MAIN STREET, THEY HAVE THAT OPTION AS WELL. THIS IS JUST THE OVERALL RENDERED SITE PLAN THAT YOU HAVE SEEN, JUST KIND OF GIVING A LITTLE BIT MORE CONTEXT THAN THE OTHER IMAGES THAT WERE SHOWN EARLIER. ONE COMPONENT, JUST TO MENTION YOU'LL SEE SOME OF THESE COLORFUL AREAS THERE, WE ARE REALLY PUSHING HARD ON ALTERNATIVE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT SOLUTIONS, SO THERE ARE IN THIS AREA, IN THIS AREA, WE'RE DOING A PERVIOUS PAVER ON THE STREETS TO COLLECT STORMWATER THERE, AND THEN WE'RE DOING SOME PAVERS ON SOME UNDERGROUND STORAGE IN THIS PARKING LOT. AND THEN THESE COLORED AREAS ARE BIORETENTION. 
          COMPONENTS WHERE WE ACTUALLY HAVE A VEGETATED, NATURAL, STORMWATER MANAGEMENT SOLUTION SO WE CAN VEGETATE THOSE THAT CAN BE HABITAT FOR ALL SORTS OF, WILDLIFE THAT ARE IN THE AREA, JUST GOING BACK TO THIS, A COUPLE THINGS I DID WANT TO NOTE ON THE PLANNING GENERAL, OVER ON THE EAST SIDE, WE'RE ENVISIONING THAT PLAYGROUND IS A LITTLE BIT MORE OF THE FORMAL PLAYGROUND, PROBABLY GEARED TOWARDS, YOU KNOW, MAYBE TEN AND UP IS KIND OF AS WE'VE BEEN TALKING WITH THE CITY, THEY'RE KIND OF TALKING ABOUT THE VARIETY OF, PLAYGROUND COMPONENTS FOR DIFFERENT AGES. SO THAT IS MORE OF THE STRUCTURED ENVIRONMENT. HAVE SOME OF THESE ELEMENTS THAT GO A LITTLE BIT TALLER, FOR, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE BIT OLDER AS YOU GET INTO THIS AREA, THERE. 
          THAT'S MORE OF THE INFORMAL NATURAL PLAY AREA. SO IT'S GOING TO BE LESS STRUCTURED, MORE OF AN OPPORTUNITY FOR KIDS TO HAVE ACCESS TO THAT AREA WITH STICKS. AND, YOU KNOW, ALL THE FUN STUFF THAT THEY GET TO PLAY WITH, BUT ALSO HAVE ACCESS TO THE CREEK. WE WERE TALKING EARLIER ABOUT, YOU KNOW, EVEN I USED TO RACE, I USED TO MAKE LITTLE BOATS OUT OF REEDS, AND MY FRIENDS AND I WOULD RACE THEM DOWN THE CREEK. THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN AS MUCH ANYMORE. AND SO THIS GIVES A LITTLE BIT BETTER ACCESS DOWN INTO THE CREEK AREA TO THE ROCKS AND THE TREES, ALONG WITH THAT, UP HERE WE HAVE A MORE FORMAL PARK AREA THAT'S PART OF THE RESTAURANTS WITH THE OUTDOOR DINING HAS A CENTRAL GREEN, A LITTLE BIT OF A STAGE WHERE WE CAN DO ENTERTAINMENT. SO IT'S KIND OF A NICE MIX AND A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT USES OF FORMALITY. OF THOSE DIFFERENT OPEN COMPONENTS. ONE OTHER ITEM OF NOTE IS THE ART WALK THAT WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING, HALEY AND I HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT A, BASICALLY OUR NEXT STEP IS WE WANT TO ESTABLISH AN RFP WHERE SHE'S GOING TO GO OUT AND ACTUALLY WORK TO SELECT LOCAL ARTISTS TO DO CUSTOM PIECES THROUGHOUT THE LANDSCAPE. SO WE'RE THINKING THEY'LL BE ABOUT 4 OR 5 LARGER PIECES. AND THEN IN THIS AREA, WE'RE ENVISIONING A COLLECTION OF BIRDHOUSES. AND THIS IS TO BE FLUSHED OUT. BUT WE THINK THAT LET'S GIVE EACH ARTIST KIND OF A PLATFORM TO CREATE THEIR OWN BIRDHOUSE OR FEEDING AREA, JUST TO KIND OF CREATE A LITTLE BIT OF FUN COLOR AND KIND OF UNIQUE ART THAT'S SPRINKLED THROUGH THE LANDSCAPE. THESE ARE JUST REPRESENTATIVE. THOSE WERE JUST, THE ARCHITECTS PLUGGING AND STUFF. SO THAT'S WHAT THEY NOT NECESSARILY LOOK LIKE. AND THAT WAS KIND OF 
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REALLY ALL I HAD, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME OR KEITH OR YOU MENTIONED T, WE REALLY JUST WANTED TO OPEN UP FOR DISCUSSIO. I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS. SURE, YOU MENTIONED THE ACCESS ALONG SUGAR RUN. SO ARE ALL AREAS. I MEAN, I'M NOT SURE HOW CLOSE THE ASPHALT PATH IS TO THE WATER. 
          AND SO IS IT. JUST ANYWHERE ALONG SUGAR RUN IS ACCESSIBLE BY THE PUBLIC OR NOT? YES. I MEAN, THERE IS. SO ALL THOSE PATHS ARE ASPHALT PAVED. OKAY, OUR INTENTION IS TO TRY TO DIRECT THEM IF THEY WANT TO GET INTO THE CREEK TO DIRECT THEM THROUGH HERE. BUT I GUESS IN THEORY, THEY COULD WALK THROUGH THE LANDSCAPE AND, OKAY, DOWN TO THE CREEK. AND SO HOW CLOSE ARE THOSE PATHS, THEN? TO THE ACTUAL BODY OF WATER? FRANK AMANDA, WITH THE M.H. DE, WE ENVISION THEY PROBABLY GET WITHIN BETWEEN 25, 50FT. I MEAN, WE STILL HAVE TO GET OUT ON SITE. SO WITH THE PATH, I MEAN, ON SITE, AS FAR AS CONSTRUCTING IT, THE INTENT IS TO GO ON ON SITE AND SITE. THE PATH WITH THE EXISTING TREES AND WITH THE EXISTING, EDGE OF THE STREAM AND THEN LOCATE IT WITHIN THE FIELD TO GET THE PRECISE PLACEMENT, SO IF THERE IS A DESIRE TO GET CLOSER OR FARTHER, WE CAN WE CAN DO THAT. AT THAT POINT, IT WAS WITHIN THE, THE FLOODPLAIN. SO WE DO KNOW THAT ON THOSE PLACES WHERE WE'RE GETTING CLOSE, THERE COULD BE INUNDATION OF THE PATH. WE'RE, YOU KNOW, AWARE OF THAT THAT IS WHERE THE POTENTIAL IS OF GETTING CLOSE TO THE PATH, THAT THAT COULD HAPPEN. OKAY. AND THAT BRINGS UP ANOTHER THOUGHT I SAW ON HERE SOMEWHERE ABOUT SAID PENDING 100 YEAR FLOODPLAIN. IT IS A 100 YEAR FLOODPLAIN AND IT'S NOT PENDING. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT MEANS, THE, FEMA HAS SOME DIFFERENT LINES THAT THEY'RE WORKING AT, AND SO WE'RE GOING TO BE CHANGING THAT BECAUSE AS FAR AS WE'RE UNDERSTANDING THOSE, THOSE LINES, THEN THERE ARE SOME EXISTING LINE WORK. NOW WE HAVE SOME SOME EXISTING LINE WORK PREVIOUSLY THERE'S SOME NEW LINE WORK NOW THAT WE'VE DOWNLOADED. AND THAT'S THE LINE WORK THAT YOU SEE RIGHT THERE. SO OKAY, THE PENDING I DON'T KNOW WHEN THAT WILL BE FINALIZED, BUT WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THAT THAT WORDING OFF THE LINE WORK THAT WILL BE GOING WITH OKAY. YEAH YEAH. AND I'M CURIOUS ABOUT WHAT'S INVOLVED WITH THE RESTORATION OF THE STREAM. SUGAR RUN IS IN MY BACKYARD. AND CURRENTLY IT'S GOT A LOT OF ALGAE AND DUCKWEED IN IT, ALTHOUGH SOME OF IT WAS WASHED AWAY WITH OUR RAINS LAST WEEK. SO I KNOW THAT ALL GOES DOWNSTREAM FROM WHERE I LIVE, SO THAT'S WHAT I THINK ABOUT THAT ACCESS AND KIDS GETTING INTO THE WATER. SO WHAT'S INVOLVED WITH THE CLEANUP OF THE WHOLE AREA? SO INVASIVE SPECIES REMOVAL. SO CREWS GOING THROUGH IDENTIFYING INVASIVE SPECIES AND REMOVING THOSE. AND THEN ALSO THERE'S SOME STREAMBANK, RESTORATION. SO WHERE THERE MIGHT BE EXCESSIVE EROSION, GOING IN AND STABILIZING THOSE STREAM BANKS. OKAY, WHERE THERE ARE PLACES WHERE IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO ADD ADDITIONAL VEGETATION, WE WOULD DO SOME PLANTINGS IN THOSE IN THOSE LOCATIONS, ALL WITH NATIVE, SPECIES. OKAY. JUST THE TYPICAL THAT YOU WOULD DO ANYWHERE ELSE WHEN YOU CLEAN UP. 
          OKAY. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. THANKS. SURE. I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. JUST FIRST OF ALL, I CALLED HIM, AT A MOMENT'S NOTICE. HE TOOK ME OVER TO THE SITE BECAUSE I'M A VERY VISUAL PERSON. I FELT LIKE I NEEDED TO SEE IT AND FEEL THE SPACE. BEING IN REAL ESTATE, YOU CAN LOOK AT PICTURES AND IT'S NOT ALWAYS THE SAME WHEN YOU WALK IN THE DOOR. RIGHT? SO I JUST WANTED TO GET A FEEL FOR THE SPACE TO HAVE ANY MEANINGFUL INPUT, FROM ME ANYWAY, SO ONE QUESTION I HAD IS THAT THERE'S A REALLY COOL PAVER DRIVEWAY AND IT'S REALLY NEAT AND IT ADDS SOME CHARACTER, AND THEN YOU'VE GOT THIS ARBORVITAE WALL THAT'S VERY CHARMING. SO ARE WE KEEPING THAT? AND HOW IF WE ARE, HOW FAR BACK WILL THAT PAVER WALKWAY GO? IT'S I TRY TO KEEP MY HANDS SO FROM SEE THAT SORT OF BOW THERE, BETWEEN THE BOWS. THAT'S THE TWO BRIDGES THAT ARE ON THE EXISTING PAPER. SO WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO LEAVE ALL THAT IN PLACE, YOU MENTIONED HIS STRUCTURAL TEAM HAS BEEN OUT TO JUST MAKE SURE THE EXISTING BRIDGES ARE APPROPRIATE, WE WERE JUST ACTUALLY DEBATING THE HANDRAIL DETAIL BECAUSE THE BRIDGES ARE SLIGHTLY BOWED, AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT. SO THAT'S GOING TO BE LEFT IN PLACE. OKAY, AS KIND OF A SORT OF HIDDEN LITTLE PATH. SO THOSE ARBORVITAE WILL STAY. AND THAT'S JUST A SMALL WALL, BUT IT'S KIND OF NEAT. IT'S KIND OF QUAINT. THAT'S KIND OF OUR WE DEBATED IT, BUT I THINK WE'RE GOING TO LEAVE THOSE OKAY FOR NOW. AND THEN THE PATH THAT IT'S I HATE TO CALL IT A HUGE DRIVEWAY, IT MUST NOT HAVE BEEN VERY CHEAP TO PUT SO, BUT IT MEANDERS AROUND TREES, LIKE ALL THE WAY TO THE 
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BACK. IS IT IS IT GOING TO CONTINUE TO STAY, THAT IT WILL WILL START TO REMOVE SOME OF THAT AND THEN RE COME BACK WITH A PAVED PATH IN THERE. OKAY. BUT THEY HAVE, IT'S I DON'T HAVE IT ON THIS. YOU CAN SEE WE'VE DONE TREE SURVEYS TO IDENTIFY HOW WE HAVE THE GO AROUND CERTAIN TREES IN THAT PRESERVED AREA RIGHT THERE TO MINIMIZE ANY IMPACT. SO THE TREES WITH THE LITTLE SILVER THINGS WITH NUMBERS, DO THEY ARE THOSE THE ONES THAT ARE STAYING OR IS THAT YOUR WAY OF IDENTIFYING. THAT'S OUR WAY OF OKAY, OKAY. THE PAVER PATH THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT YEAH IS PRIMARILY GOING TO BE BETWEEN THE TWO BRIDGES OKAY. AND YOU'LL SEE THAT AFTER THAT WE'VE REALLY KIND OF COME INTO THE DEVELOPMENT OKAY. BUT THERE'S A YOU HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW THAT TRANSITIONS I GUESS FROM THE BUT A GOOD PLACE TO TRANSITION OUT WOULD BE AT THE BRIDGES. SO WE COULD HAVE A NEW PATH START BRIDGE TO GO INTO THE SITE. AND SO THAT THAT EXISTING PATH IS GOING TO OPPOSITION. OKAY, AND IT LOOKED LIKE THERE WERE A COUPLE LIKE NATURAL AREAS WHERE, I MEAN, KIDS WILL GO INTO THE CREEK, BUT MAYBE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ADDITIONAL BRIDGES TO GET FROM WHERE THOSE HOMES WILL BE OVER TO THE MIXED USE AREA IS THAT SO THE THERE THERE'S GOING TO BE A NEW BRIDGE OVER THE CREEK RIGHT HERE, THIS IS AN EXISTING BRIDGE, EXISTING BRIDGE. AND THEN THE FOURTH CONNECTOR WILL BE RIGHT IN THAT LOCATION. OKAY. SO THEY WILL BE ABLE TO. YES. AND THAT'S PRIMARILY DRIVEN AS WE'RE DEALING WITH SLOPES AND ACCESSIBILITY FROM THE CITY. THREE HERE TO GET DOWN. THAT'S KIND OF THE CURVE. AND WE MET WITH THE CITY I WAS DESIRE FOR A LITTLE BIT MORE LEISURE PATH SO THAT WE COULD GET A LITTLE BIT MORE LINEAR FOOTAGE OF TRAIL IN THERE. JUST SO IF SOMEONE WANTED TO DO A TWO THIRDS OF A MILE LOOP, THERE'S KIND OF THAT ABILITY TO DO THAT WITHIN THE PROJECT. OKAY. AND THEN A COUPLE OTHER QUESTIONS. ONE IS, AS WE WERE TALKING, THERE WAS THIS ENORMOUS, HUGE, REALLY COOL ROCK BY ONE OF THE TREES THAT YOU ARE KEEPING. ARE THERE ANY PLANS TO INCORPORATE SOME OF THOSE THAT ARE UNEARTHED INTO THE LANDSCAPE? BECAUSE THAT COULD BE A NEAT. THE HOPE IS THAT SOME OF THAT, IF WE CAN, WOULD BECOME PART OF THE NATURAL PLAYGROUND. OKAY, YEAH. NOT EXACTLY. 
          EXACTLY. THAT'S I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY THAT. KIDS WOULD LOVE THAT. YEAH. SO. AND THEN MY OTHER MY LAST QUESTION IS, I'M A DOG OWNER. SO AND I HAD MENTIONED THAT THE LAST MEETING LIKE THE DOG POO STATIONS. BUT YOU DIDN'T MENTION THAT. SO IS THAT IN THE PLAN THAT'S IMPORTANT TO THAT'LL BE IMPORTANT TO YOUR RESIDENTS? YES. SO AND THE HOMEOWNERS, WE DID NOT HAVE IT MARKED APPROPRIATELY. WE SAW THAT AS A COMMON. YEAH. OKAY. MAKES COMPLETE SENSE. OKAY I'VE GOT A COUPLE QUESTIONS ABOUT, PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY, I I'M.S REALLY IS EXCITING TO ME. I LIKE ALL OF THE DIFFERENT ACTIVE AND PASSIVE ELEMENTS. SO, YEAH, VERY EXCITING. BUT I AM LOOKING AT, SO YOU MENTIONED THE MAIN PLAYGROUND AREAS ON THE EAST SIDE OF 605. SO I'M JUST WONDERING IF THE CROSSINGS ON 605. SO OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE CENTRAL COLLEGE AND THEN THERE'S THE ONE THAT'S, PUBLIC STREET A AND PUBLIC STREET C, AND THEN ANOTHER ONE THAT'S A LITTLE BIT FURTHER SOUTH, I GUESS PUBLIC STREET D, ARE THOSE GOING TO BE SIGNALIZED OR WHAT KIND OF SAFETY ACCOMMODATIONS FOR PEDESTRIANS? IF YOU KNOW THE RESIDENTS OVER ON THE WEST SIDE ARE TRYING TO GET TO THE PLAYGROUND ON THE EAST SIDE, SO THIS WILL BE A FULLY REMAIN A FULLY SIGNAL WITH THE CROSSWALKS, WE WERE JUST ACTUALLY DRAWING THAT DETAIL WHERE WE SUSPECT THEY'LL NEED TO BE SOME SORT OF WE'LL HAVE TO WORK WITH THE CITY. ON WHAT THAT BLINKING LIGHT IS TO, TO FOR THOSE CROSSWALKS AND THEN SIMILAR DOWN DETAIL DOWN HERE IN THE FUTURE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE AN OUR PRELIMINARY ZONING. WE HAVE BASICALLY DEDICATED THAT WE WILL PRESERVE 200FT BACK IN CASE THIS BECOMES FULLY SIGNALED OR A ROUNDABOUT OR ANYTHING FUTURE. SO WE PROBABLY NEED TO WORK OUT EXACTLY HOW THE BLINKERS WILL WORK AND WHAT THAT DETAIL IS. SURE. OKAY. AND THEN THE OTHER QUESTION IS MAINLY SO, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT THIS BEAUTIFUL PARK AREA PROPOSED ON THE SOUTH SIDE. AND SO I'M JUST LOOKING AT YOU KNOW, HOW LIKE ALL OF THE RESIDENTIAL AND BUILDINGS ON, YOU KNOW, ON THE NORTH SIDE IS WHAT THAT CONNECTION, THE PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION IS. AND SO IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S THROUGH EITHER THE RESERVE A SPACE LIKE THAT PUBLIC PLAZA OR 605 ON, YOU KNOW, THE MAIN ARTERY. AND SO 
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I'M JUST WONDERING WHAT THERE'S LIKE THAT SPACE ON, SO IT'S BASICALLY JUST TO THE EAST OF RESERVE F, THERE'S THAT STREET THAT ALMOST LOOKS LIKE A CUL DE SACS, I'M. YEAH, I'M JUST CURIOUS. LIKE WHAT? IT'S NOT CLEAR ON THE PLANE. LIKE WHAT EXACTLY IS GOING ON THERE? AND THERE'S A, SIDEWALK THAT'S SHOWN THAT ON THE SIDEWALK PLAN. THAT'S ON THE WEST SIDE OF THAT LITTLE ROAD. AND THEN THERE'S A SIDEWALK THAT KIND OF JUTS OUT OF THE YOU CAN SEE IT ON THERE AND WHITE, JUST WONDERING IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ANOTHER PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION THERE OR JUST WHAT YOU HAVE GOING ON THERE. ACTUALLY, WE JUST GOT THAT, SIMILAR FEEDBACK LAST WEEK. SO THAT WAS WHAT WE WERE MEETING WITH, BEFORE THIS MEETING TO DISCUSS, THIS WE DO NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT SIDEWALK CONNECTS DOWN INTO THIS CONNECTION, BUT NOW THERE IS WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE DETAIL OF A SIDEWALK COMING IN BETWEEN THE COMMERCIAL LOT AND THIS BUILDING, OUR CONCERN IS THAT IS ONE OF THE 54 INCH PIN OAKS. SO WE'RE TRYING TO BE SENSITIVE WHERE THAT SIDEWALK GOES. SO TODAY WE WERE TALKING ABOUT MAYBE DOWN AND THEN LOOPS AROUND AND THEN CONNECTS OVER TO THERE, BUT WE THINK THEN THIS FOLKS WOULD THEN KIND OF COME THROUGH HERE, TAKE THIS SIDEWALK CONNECTION ACROSS AND THEN COME INTO THE NATURAL AREA OR THEY COULD GO TO THE CIVIC GREEN IF WE ADDED THAT PIECE. SO WE ARE WORKING ON THAT ONE. AND THIS IS NOW BEING WE'RE ADDING THAT ONE. OKAY. GREAT. THANK YOU. ONE MORE QUESTION. WHEN SHE WAS MENTIONING STREETS, JUST TO THE EAST ON YOUR PUBLIC STREET. SEE THAT COMES UP PRETTY QUICKLY FROM 605 AND CENTRAL COLLEGE AS YOU'RE GOING EAST, IS THERE GOING TO BE ANY KIND OF A TURN LANE INTO THAT AREA? THAT RIGHT THERE? YEAH, I DON'T THINK BECAUSE THAT'S A RIGHT IN. RIGHT OUT. YEAH. I DON'T I DON'T THINK IT REQUIRED A DECEL. OKAY. WASN'T THERE LIKE A YOU CAN'T MAKE A LEFT THERE. YEAH, YEAH. IT'LL BE DESIGNED AS A RIGHT IN. RIGHT. OKAY YES. OKAY. YEAH. 
          RIGHT HERE. RIGHT HERE. YEP YEAH. SO AND I WILL SAY ONE OF, EXTENSIVE WORK WITH THE CITY WORKING ON THE SORT OF DETAILING AND ALIGNMENT OF 605 IN THIS AREA TO START TO ADD SOME OF THE PARALLEL PARKING WITH THEM, ALL THE SIDEWALKS, PARALLEL PARKING, SOME PEOPLE LOVE IT, SOME PEOPLE HATE IT. BUT WHAT IT DOES DO IS IT SLOWS TRAFFIC, SO WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT HAVING THAT ON THE STREET BECAUSE IT'LL JUST START TO, YOU KNOW, AS FOLKS COME ACROSS CENTRAL COLLEGE, THEY'LL KNOW, OKAY, WE NEED TO START SLOWING DOWN AS WE'RE COMING THROUGH HERE. 
          WILL THERE BE ANY LIGHTING AROUND THE STRUCTURES AT ALL? THERE WOULD BE, YES, I HAVEN'T FIGURED OUT THE DETAIL. WE ARE ACTUALLY ALSO TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE LIGHTING OF THE PATH, SO IT'S NOT. YOU KNOW, I'M DEBATING BETWEEN LOW AND HIGH, AND I WILL SAY THAT IT'S NOT FULLY RESOLVED YET. OKAY. UPPER CLINTON ADDED SOMETHING. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS EVER WALK THROUGH THERE, BUT IT WAS DROPPING OUT A COUPLE OF TIMES AND AT NIGHT, AND THEY HAVE THESE SOLAR LIGHTS ON, THESE LITTLE POSTS, AND IT'S ACTUALLY REALLY NICELY DONE. LIKE THIS. HI YEAH, THEY WEREN'T HIGH. IT LOOKED NEAT AND IT HAD TO SAFETY BECAUSE AS WELL, IDEALLY THIS IS NOT LIT UP. 
          YEAH. SO LIKE THOSE LITTLE THIS ONE. AND IT WAS LIKE AROUND THE POND AND IF YOU EVER HAD A CHANCE TO CHECK IT OUT THEY ACTUALLY DID A REALLY NICE JOB. OKAY. SO LIKE THE GOAL WOULD BE MORE ACCENT LIGHTING. YEAH I HAVE ONE LAST THING. FIRST OF ALL, I LOVE THE IDEA THAT THERE'S NOTHING BEING MITIGATED FOR GREEN SPACE, AND THAT YOU'VE EXCEEDED THAT. I THINK THAT'S KUDOS FOR THAT, AND THEN WHAT IS DETERMINING WHAT YOU'RE SAVING? I KNOW LARGER TREES OR IS IT THE SPECIES? IS IT THE AGE OF THE PLANT? IS IT THE CONDITION IN TERMS OF AS YOU'RE WORKING AROUND THESE BECAUSE THERE'S SOME NICE LARGER TREES IN THIS AREA. SO IT IS IT WAS NOT AN EASY DISCUSSION. WHEN I HAVE THE SPREADSHEET OF A 36 INCH, YOU KNOW, SUGAR MAPLE OR WHATEVER IT IS, I THINK ONE OF THE COMPONENT WAS AS WE SHIFTED THESE AREAS, COULD WE PUT THEM IN LOCATIONS WHERE WE HAVE OPPORTUNITY TO SAVE A GOOD CLUSTER OF TREES? I WAS EVEN EDUCATED BECAUSE 
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THERE'S A, THERE'S A, THERE'S A BIG, BEAUTIFUL TREE RIGHT THERE. AND I WAS LIKE, WE'RE SAVING THAT, RIGHT? AND I SAID, WELL, YOU HAVE TO LONG TERM. YES. IT LOOKS LIKE A BEAUTIFUL TREE. BUT AS WE CHECK THE HEALTH, IT'S NOT RIGHT. IT'S REALLY NOT WORTH SAVING BECAUSE WE'LL END UP CUTTING IT DOWN. AND, YOU KNOW, TIME. SO THE FOCUS WAS CLEARLY PRESERVING AS MUCH AS WE CAN HERE. KNOWING THESE 54 INSURERS WERE, YOU KNOW, BEAUTIFUL SPECIMENS. WE TRY TO PRESERVE. 
          THIS PLAN HAS CONTINUED TO EVOLVE, AND THEY'VE PROBABLY SEEN NINE ITERATIONS. I'VE KIND OF PRESENTED BECAUSE WE USED TO HAVE A LOT MORE ROAD. AND SO WITH HERE AND IT DOESN'T SHOW IT, THERE ARE A WHOLE SERIES OF EXISTING TREES THAT ARE ON THE PROPERTY LINES, WHICH THEN THOSE CAN STAY. I KNOW WE DEBATED ALLEYS, CREATE A NICER NEW URBANIST FEEL, BUT TO PUT AN ALLEY IN WOULD WIPE OUT ALL THOSE TREES. SO THAT WAS A CONSCIOUS DECISION DOWN HERE TO REDESIGN TO PRESERVE AS MANY AS IN HERE, AND THEN UP IN THIS AREA, I, YOU KNOW, WE WENT BACK AND FORTH THERE, EXISTING TREES WERE KIND OF THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF A MISHMASH OUT THERE, THE SPACING OF THEM IS NOT IDEAL. AND SO THAT WAS PART OF THE DECISION. OKAY. THIS, YOU KNOW, WHERE THEY'RE ALREADY TOO CLUMPED TOGETHER. THEY PROBABLY DON'T HAVE A FUTURE OPPORTUNITIES, SO IT WAS JUST KIND OF DOING THE BEST WE CAN, PRESERVING THOSE CLUSTERS. AND THEN DOWN HERE AND THERE'S A SYCAMORE RIGHT HERE. THAT WAS OUR LONDON PLAN. CONFUSED BETWEEN SYCAMORE AND LONDON PLAIN. BUT BEAUTIFUL, BEAUTIFUL TREE RIGHT HERE, WHICH WAS ONE OF THE REASONS THAT PLAYGROUND IS SORT OF SITUATED IN THE FOREGROUND OF THAT BIG, THAT BIG, BEAUTIFUL TREE. AND YOU MENTIONED THE LA, I HOPE YOU CAN CHOOSE SOME TREES BETTER THAN WHAT WE HAVE BEHIND THE LIBRARY. SOMETHING THAT'S A LITTLE HARDIER, HARDIER FOR OUR AREA. 
          YEAH. THE BIRCH TREES. YEAH, YEAH, THE WHITEBARK BIRCH. YEAH. SO I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE SIDEWALKS AROUND. WHAT WHAT'S THE. I SAW FOUR FOOT SIDEWALKS. WE FEEL LIKE THAT'S ENOUGH FOR PEDESTRIANS GOING BOTH WAYS. IT'S NOT. SO THERE'S A THERE'S A MIX. OKAY EXTERNAL SIDEWALKS ARE EIGHT FEET, SO THEY'RE DEFINED AS, I GUESS, MORE OF A LEISURE TRAIL. OKAY, SO THE EXTERNAL ONES, THOSE ARE EIGHT. THE PRIMARY INTERNAL STREETS. THOSE ARE FIVE FEET ON BOTH SIDES. AND THEN IF ANYONE WANTS TO STICK AROUND FOR PLANNING COMMISSION, A LITTLE FORESHADOWING. I AM GOING TO BE REQUESTING A, AT LEAST DISCUSSION ABOUT A WAIVER BECAUSE THE ZONING TEXT DOES SAY THAT WE NEED TO HAVE FIVE FEET OF SIDEWALK. BUT AS YOU GET INTO SOME OF THESE LITTLE AREAS WHERE YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, BRICK STREETS AND THESE THE FIVE FEET DOESN'T FEEL LIKE THE RIGHT SCALE ANYMORE. AND THERE'S NUMEROUS EXAMPLES. WE FOUND THAT THIN WALLS WERE FOUR FOOT IS MORE APPROPRIATE THERE. SO THE INTENT IS AS YOU GET INTO THE RIGHT UP AGAINST THE HOUSE AND SOME OF THOSE TRULY HAMLET AREAS, FOUR FEET PRIMARY INTERNAL ROADS, FIVE FEET. AND THEN THE LEISURE TRAILS AROUND THE EXTERIOR OF THE SITE ARE THE EIGHT FEET. OKAY, IT'LL BE ENOUGH ON BOTH SIDES. YES. AT LEAST IT'LL HAVE. YEAH. OKAY. AND WE. WELL, IT'S HARD TO SEE HERE. WE HAVE A TRAIL. WE HAVE A SIDEWALK HERE THAT RUNS ALONG THE SOUTH SIDE OF HERE. THAT'S PUBLIC STREET D, AND THEN THAT CONNECTION SERVES AS THE NORTHERN SIDEWALK FOR THAT STREET. OKAY. SO I HAVE A COUPLE OTHER QUESTIONS, ONE IS ON THE BOTTOM THERE BETWEEN THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, AND I THINK CVG THERE, THERE'S LIKE A HUGE UGLY FENCE. YES. WHAT'S YOUR PLAN FOR THAT? I WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO I KNOW CVG WENT THROUGH SOME REZONING RECENTLY AS WELL. I WE'RE WE'LL HAVE TO WORK ON SOME VEGETATIVE SCREENING. WE HAVEN'T FULLY RESOLVED THAT YET. OKAY AND THEN PROBABLY MY LAST QUESTION IS JUST SAFETY, YOU KNOW, CROSSING THE ROAD FOR THE KIDS, GOING BETWEEN. UNCLEAR IF THEY'RE GOING TO WANT TO GO TO THE PARK BACK AND FORTH. AND I KNOW MY DAUGHTER, WE'RE GOING TO BE UP HERE AND SHE'S GOING TO FIND A WAY TO, LIKE, WIGGLE THROUGH ALL THIS STUFF AND FIND A NICE PLACE OR WHATEVER IS GOING TO BE THERE. SO HOW CAN I FEEL COMFORTABLE, THAT SHE CAN GET THERE SAFELY AND THAT IS THE AN UNRESOLVED DETAIL ON HOWARD. 
          WE WERE JUST DEBATING. DUBLIN DOES IT ONE WAY CERTAIN COMMUNITIES DO A DIFFERENT WAY WITH THE PEDESTRIAN CROSSING, SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SORT OF COME UP WITH SOLUTIONS. THE CITY 
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ACCEPTS FOR, FOR THAT CONCERN. OKAY. ASSUMPTION. NOW IT'S GOING TO BE SOME SORT OF BLINKING LIGHT, BUT THE EXACT DETAIL THAT I DON'T HAVE. OKAY BUT SOME SORT OF SIGNAL THAT YOU'D PRESS LIKE THE WALK SIGNALS IN. YES. OKAY OKAY. GREAT. SILENCE I THINK IT LOOKS GOOD. THUS FAR. YEAH. AND I HAVEN'T SPOKEN YET. IT'S A LITTLE OUTSIDE OUR PURVIEW, BUT IT, WHERE I WAS TALKING ABOUT A PRODUCT THAT LEADS ITSELF TO SINGLE, SINGLE FAMILY. NO CHILDREN YET. WE'VE DONE AN EXCEPTIONAL JOB WITH PUTTING IN PARKS, AND IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE AGE SENSITIVE. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE DISPERSED BY A GUY RUNNING AROUND. SO I THINK THE QUESTION COMES TO MY MIND IS THAT WE DO AN EDUCATIONAL IMPACT STUDY ON THIS. WE DID COULD WE SPEAK TO THAT? YEAH. THE APPLICANT PREPARED A SCHOOL IMPACT STATEMENT. THAT'S REQUIRED AS PART OF THE REZONING APPLICATION. THE CITY MET WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AT THE TIME AND VERIFIED THE NUMBERS, AND THAT SCHOOL IMPACT STATEMENT WAS EVALUATED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION. AND CITY COUNCIL AND, AND, PART OF THE OVERALL PROJECT APPROVAL WAS APPROVED. AT THAT TIME. VERY GOOD. ALL RIGHT. I ANSWERED MY QUESTION JUST TO ADD ON. I ACTUALLY JUST RERAN IT AGAIN. BASED ON, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT JUST DID A WHOLE MASTER PLAN, RIGHT? SO I WENT IN AND SORT OF BROKE APART ALL OF THEIR RATIOS AND ALL THE PIECES AND, REMODELED EVERYTHING BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO SUBMIT THAT AS PART OF THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN. AND WE ARE OUR PROJECTION IS BELOW THE SCHOOL DISTRICT'S PROJECTION, FOR THE SITE, I MADE SOME NOTES ON THE LAST ONE. SO, DOES THIS SOUND ABOUT RIGHT? SO I'M SHOWING 164 UNITS THAT WILL GENERATE ABOUT 57 STUDENTS AND ABOUT 24 SINGLE FAMILIES THAT THEY'RE EXPECTING THAT TO GENERATE AROUND 18. THERE SOUND ABOUT BALLPARK THERE. SO THERE'S 195 UNITS. AND I CAN TELL YOU I BELIEVE THERE WAS MID 60S IS WHAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT INCLUDED IN THEIR MASTER PLAN FOR OUR SITE. AND OUR MODEL IS SHOWING LOW 50S. 
          OKAY. ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? ANY ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO THIS? I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE TO HELP THE PUBLIC ART. I THINK THAT'S A REALLY NEAT ADD. IT IS AND I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR FROM YOU. HALEY WHAT'S THAT? SHOULD SHE BE SWORN IN? OH, SHE WAS HERE EARLIER, WEREN'T YOU? DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH? I DO THANK YOU. SO, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT ABOUT THE PUBLIC ART IS THAT ALL OF THE ART RELATE TO NEW ALBANY, THAT INCLUDES HAVING AT LEAST ONE NEW ALBANY ARTIST TO CREATE THE SCULPTURES, AND I THINK WE'RE GOING TO PROBABLY HAVE BETWEEN 2 AND 4 ARTISTS THAT WE'RE GOING TO INCLUDE WHO DO VARIOUS TYPES OF ARTWORK, WHICH IS GOING TO BE SUSTAINABLE BECAUSE OF THE WEATHER. IT WILL BE SOMETHING WHERE CHILDREN CAN'T GET HURT ON THAT. THEY'RE GOING TO CLIMB ON. SO WE'RE GOING TO TAKE ALL THAT INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN WE SEND OUT A REQUEST FOR BID FOR THE WORK OF ARTIST, WE'RE CONSIDERING THINGS THAT ARE METAL, STEEL, BRONZE, WOOD, OTHER TYPES OF, COMPOSITE MATERIALS THAT WILL BE SUSTAINABLE, THE OTHER THING IS BILL RESCH WAS A FRIEND OF MINE, AND I REALLY LOVED HIM. HE TAUGHT MY CHILDREN. AND THE FACT THAT HIS NAME IS PARTLY IN HERE, BECAUSE HE WAS AN EARLY SUPPORTER, ONE THING THAT WE DISCUSSED DURING OUR FIRST MEETING IS HOW DO WE, LIKE, ACKNOWLEDGE THAT? AND BECAUSE THE STATE BIRD OF OHIO IS THE CARDINAL. AND ALSO, IF YOU MAY KNOW THAT CARDINALS ALSO, WHEN YOU SEE ONE, IT'S A LOVED ONE WHOSE PAST IS COMING BACK TO REMIND YOU THAT THEY'RE WATCHING OVER YOU. WE WANTED TO HAVE A CARDINAL BE PART OF ALL OF THE SCULPTURES, WHETHER AS A CUTOUT OR SOMEONE HOLDING IT. WE WANTED THAT CARD TO BE A PART AND WE WERE GOING TO EXPLAIN THAT ON THE SCULPTURES, THERE'LL BE A PLAQUE ON EACH ONE, AND IT'LL SAY WHO THE ARTIST IS, A LITTLE 
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BIT ABOUT AN ARTIST'S STATEMENT AND SOME OTHER INFORMATION. THAT'S APPROVED IN PLANNING, THE OTHER THING THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING IS ALSO ACKNOWLEDGING NEW ALBANY AND ALL THE GREAT THINGS THAT HAPPENED IN NEW ALBANY. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A SCULPTURE THAT TALKS ABOUT, THE, WALKING CLASSIC. AND MAYBE IT WOULD BE PEOPLE WALKING. WE MIGHT HAVE SOMEONE DOING BALLET BECAUSE WE HAVE THE BALLET, THEATER HERE. IT MIGHT BE, IT MIGHT BE ANYTHING THAT IS GOING TO REPRESENT WHAT NEW ALBANY MEANS. KIND OF LIKE, IN SCULPTURE THAT TELLS A STORY. SO THAT IS WHERE I'M GOING WITH THAT SCULPTURE. IF THAT HELPS, IT DOES. THEN THERE'S ONE AT, RANGE CROSSING. IT'S INTERACTIVE. IT'S JUST A FRAME. AND THE KIDS LOVE TO TAKE A SELFIE IN THERE. SO I WOULD THAT WOULD BE NEAT TO HAVE SOMETHING INTERACTIVE AS WELL. YEAH. IT'S NOT PROBABLY YOUR AREA OF EXPERTISE BUT WE WERE TALKING. YEAH IT'S FUNNY THAT YOU SAID THAT BECAUSE WE WERE JUST BEFORE THE MEETING STARTED. I WAS JUST AT NEMACOLIN ON VACATION. NICE. 
          AND THEY HAVE A HUGE SCULPTURE OF A HEART. AND WHILE WE WERE EATING DINNER, WE SAW SO MANY PEOPLE WITH THE BAGPIPERS. IS THAT WHERE THE. ON THE 17TH HOLE WHERE THE BAGPIPER IS? YES WE SAW THE BAGPIPER THERE. YEAH. WE WERE AT ACQUIESCE THAT RESTAURANT. THAT'S RIGHT THERE. 
          YEAH, IT'S BEEN A FEW YEARS, BUT THERE WAS A. YEAH, THERE WAS A BAGPIPER IN THE MIDDLE OF DINNER, BUT THE HEART SCULPTURE, AS WE HAD A GREAT VIEW OF IT, WE SAW SO MANY PEOPLE GOING TO IT AND TOUCH IT AND SMILE AND SO MANY PICTURES. AND IT BECAME SUCH A GREAT KIND OF INTERACTIVE THING. AND I TOOK A PICTURE AND SHOWED IT. AND THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE, IS SOMETHING WHERE YOU CAN TOUCH IT. IT WON'T HURT YOU, BUT IT HAS A SYMBOLISM TO IT THAT'S IMPORTANT. THAT'S THE CHICAGO BEAM, LIKE THE CHICAGO BEAM. YEAH. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. SO I HOPE THAT HELP. 
          CAN I MAKE ONE SUGGESTION ABOUT JUST THE PUBLIC ART AND MAYBE, POSSIBLY, WHETHER IT'S INCORPORATED INTO THE PUBLIC ART OR OTHERWISE, BUT THE CONSIDERATION OF BIKE STORAGE, AND BIKE PARKING. I SHOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THE CREATIVE, CREATIVE BIKE STORAGE, YOU KNOW, IN VARIOUS PLACES. SO THAT COULD BE AN OPTION. BUT ALSO, I THINK, IMPORTANT JUST TO INCLUDE IN GENERAL, AS YOU KNOW, I THINK TO YOUR POINT, TRICIA, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WILL BE WALKING AND BIKING TO, TO THIS AREA AND THERE MAY BE A BIKE SCULPTURE IF WE CAN, YOU KNOW, IF WE CAN DO IT. BUT THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT CONSTITUENCIES IN NEW ALBANY, WHETHER IT'S BUSINESSES OR OR THINGS THAT PEOPLE LOVE, LIKE THE WALKING CLASSIC AND PLUTONIA THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO INCLUDE TO MAKE SURE THAT IT REALLY FEELS LIKE A HOMETOWN, A DESTINATION. I COULD IMAGINE THAT PEOPLE WHO DON'T LIVE IN THE AREA WOULD WANT TO COME IN AND VISIT IT AND TAKE PICTURES BY IT, AND THEN MOST IMPORTANT PART IS INCLUDE THAT IN SOCIAL MEDIA TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHAT NEW ALBANY HAS DONE, THE COMMITMENT THEY'VE MADE TO THIS, LOCAL PARKS THAT ARE HERE. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT IN OUR STEERING COMMITTEE, TOO. BUT WHAT IS OUR BRAND? AND PUTTING IT OUT THERE AND INCORPORATING IT INTO SO THAT'S GREAT. THANK YOU. GREAT. THANK YOU. WE EXHAUSTED ALL OUR QUESTIONS FOR EVERYBODY. ALL RIGHT, I THINK IT'S TIME WE MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT A, STAFF'S REPORT. PD, PD 53 2024. DO I HAVE A MOTION? I MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT WITH THE, ADDITION OF THE WASTE CONTAINERS AND RECYCLING THAT SORT OF THING. AND ALL OF THE PARKS, PLAYGROUNDS. I HAVE A SECOND, SECOND, JUST THE DOCUMENTS MOTION. SO. YEAH. SO NEXT, THE NEXT MOTION WILL BE THE MERITS. YEAH. RIGHT WHERE YOU'LL STAY. 
          WE'RE JUST GOING TO ACCEPT STAFF'S REPORT. OH OKAY. I SECOND THANK YOU. OKAY. MISS STILLMAN. YES, MISS SEGNINI. YES, MISS STOUGHTON. YES, MISS SHEPARD. YES, MR. STERBIK? YES. 
          THE MOTION PASSES. THERE ARE FIVE VOTES TO ADMIT THE DOCUMENTS. THANK YOU, NOW WE CAN GO ON AND MOTION TO APPROVE THE FPD, FDP 53 2024. BASED ON THE FINDINGS OF STAFF REPORT AND THE CONDITIONS LIMITED IN THE STAFF REPORT, SUBJECT TO STAFF APPROVAL, WHICH, YES, I MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT WITH WITH THAT EXCEPTION THAT ADDITIONS. RIGHT. SECOND MOTION. YOU DO YOU HAVE ANOTHER COMMENT? NO, I WAS JUST GOING TO SECOND IT. SECOND. OKAY. VERY GOOD. THE ROLL PLEAS, 
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MISS STILLMAN. YES, MISS CHAPPELL. YES, MISS STOUGHTON? YES. MR. STERBIK. YES, MISS SEGNINI. YES MOTION PASSES THERE ARE FIVE VOTES IN FAVOR, OF THE APPLICATION, SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS IN THE STAFF REPORT AND THE FINDINGS IN THE STAFF REPORT. CONGRATULATIONS. GOOD. 
          THANK YOU. NICE PRESENTATION GUYS. BEAUTIFUL. ALL RIGHT, IS THERE ANY OTHER BUSINESS THAT'S, BOARD WOULD LIKE TO BRING UP BEFORE WE GO? AS FOR A MOTION TO ADJOURN. OKAY, NOW, WE'LL ACCEPT A MOTION TO ADJOURN. TO MOVE THAT, WE ADJOURN. THANK YOU. A SECOND PLACE, SECOND PLACE. TWO SECONDS. OKAY. ROLL, PLEASE. MISS STILLMAN. YES, MISS STOUGHTON? YES, MISS SHAFFER? YES, MR. STUVIC? YES, MISS. SEGNINI. YES. MOTION PASSES. WE'RE ADJOURNED. THANK YOU. SO WE ADJOURNED. GOOD
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