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RIGHT. I'D LIKE TO CALL HER TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING FOR MONDAY, AUGUST. THE FIFTH.
CARRY THE ROLL, PLEASE. MR. KIRBY, PRESIDENT. MR. WALLACE. PRESIDENT. MR. SHELL PRESIDENT.
MISS BRIGGS HERE. MR. LARSON, PRESIDENT, COUNCIL MEMBER. WILTROUT HERE. ALL VOTING MEMBERS ARE PRESENT. WE HAVE A QUORUM. THANK YOU. ITEM THREE. ACTION ON THE MINUTES FROM JULY
[III. Action on minutes: July 15, 2024]
THE 15TH. ARE THERE ANY CORRECTIONS TO THE MINUTES FROM THE 15TH? NO NONE HERE. I HAD ONE CHANGE ON PAGE THREE. TOP OF THE PAGE. STATEMENTS ATTRIBUTED TO ME SAYS, CONTINUED THAT AN INTERVENING BLANK FROM FOR, WELL, INTERVENING PROMOTION FOR RECONSIDERATION OF WHAT IT SAYS.AND I THINK THE WORD MOTION SHOULD BE INSERTED IN BETWEEN INTERVENING AND FOURTH. THAT WAS MY ONLY CHANGE. THANK YOU. I HAVE NONE. DO I HEAR A MOTION ON THE MINUTES FROM JULY 15TH? I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM JULY 15TH, 2024, WITH THE ONE CORRECTION FROM MR. WALLACE. DO I HEAR A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION FOR THE MINUTES? THE ROLL PLEASE.
MR. SHELL? YES. MR. LARSON? YES. MR. WALLACE? YES, MISS BRIGGS. YES. MR. KIRBY? YES. THE MOTION PASSES. THERE ARE FIVE VOTES TO APPROVE THE JULY 15TH MINUTES, AS CORRECTED. DO WE HAVE ANY
[IV. Additions or corrections to the agenda]
ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS TO THE AGENDA TONIGHT? NONE FROM STAFF. THANK YOU. WOULD EVERYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION TONIGHT, PLEASE RISE. DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? THANK YOU. AND WHILE WE'RE UP, EVERYONE CHECK YOUR PHONES. ITEM FIVE IS HEARING OF VISITORS FOR ITEMS THAT ARE NOT ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA. DO WE HAVE ANY SUCH[VI. Cases]
VISITORS TONIGHT? HEARING NONE, WE MOVE ON TO OUR FIRST CASES. OUR FIRST CASE IS FPL 55. CAN WE HEAR FROM STAFF, PLEASE? YES. SO THIS IS A FINAL PLAT FOR AN EXTENSION OF GANNON PARKWAY. SO THE CITY IS THE APPLICANT FOR THIS APPLICATION. THE CITY HAS HIRED AND BEEN WORKING WITH THE ENGINEERING FIRM CARPENTER MARTY TO DESIGN THE EXTENSION OF THIS ROADWAY. AND THE PLANS HAVE EXPANDED TO A POINT WHERE THE CITY IS READY TO PLAT AN ADDITIONAL SECTION OF THE ROADWAY. SO THIS IS LOCATED. SORRY, I DON'T HAVE A POINTER ON ME, BUT THIS IS LOCATED SOUTH OF 161 AND IT'S LOCATED WEST OF THE AMGEN FACILITY. THAT'S SHOWN IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SCREEN. THE ROADWAY EXTENSION ITSELF DEDICATES 100FT OF RIGHT OF WAY. IT'S ABOUT 1500 LINEAR FEET IN LENGTH AND ENCOMPASSES JUST UNDER FOUR ACRES IN SIZE. SO IT ALSO HAS ADDITIONAL 50 FOOT UTILITY AND STREETSCAPE EASEMENTS ON BOTH THE NORTH AND SOUTH SIDE OF THE PLAT, FOR A TOTAL OF 100FT OF RIGHT OF WAY AND EASEMENT AREA, WHICH MEETS AND ACTUALLY EXCEEDS THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE STRATEGIC PLAN. AND THIS IS THE THOROUGHFARE MAP FROM THE ENGAGE NEW ALBANY STRATEGIC PLAN, SO THE PROPOSED PLAT MATCHES THE CHARACTER CLASSIFICATION AND FUNCTIONAL CLASSIFICATIONS AS RECOMMENDED IN THE PLAT OR IN THE PLAN ITSELF, AND STAFF IS HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. ANY ENGINEERING? NO COMMENTS FROM ENGINEERING. OKAY. AND SINCE THE VILLAGE IS THE APPLICANT, WE DON'T HAVE A THIRD APPLICANT. QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC? I MOVE FOR ACCEPTANCE OF THE STAFF REPORT AND RELATED DOCUMENTS INTO THE RECORD FOR FPL 55 2024. DO I HEAR A SECOND ON THE DOCUMENTS MOTION? A SECOND? ANY DISCUSSION ON THE DOCUMENTS? COULD YOU THE ROLL, PLEASE? MR. KIRBY? YES. MR. LARSON YES. MR. SHELL? YES, MISS BRIGGS. YES, MR. WALLACE? YES. THE MOTION PASSES. THERE ARE FIVE VOTES TO ADMIT THE DOCUMENTS. DO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR THE FINAL PLAT ITSELF, I'LL MOVE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO CITY COUNCIL OF APPLICATION. FPL 55 2024. AS STATED. DO I HEAR A SECOND? SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? COULD YOU THE ROLL. MR. LARSON? YES, MISS. BRIGGS? YES, MR. KIRBY? YES, MR. WALLACE. YES, MR. SHELL. YES.MOTION PASSES. THERE ARE FIVE VOTES IN FAVOR OF THE APPLICATION AS STATED. THE INTERESTING PART OF THIS ROAD COMES SOMETIME SOONER OR SOMETIME LATER. I SHOULD SAY.
[VII. Other business]
THIS TAKES US TO OTHER BUSINESS, CITY CODE AMENDMENT 11. OH FIVE AND 1127. CAN WE HEAR FROM STAF?[00:05:08]
YES. THANK YOU. SO, CITY COUNCIL ON JULY 16TH REQUESTED THAT STAFF PREPARE LEGISLATION TO PROHIBIT THE, COMMERCIAL CULTIVATION, PROCESSING AND DISPENSING OF RECREATIONAL MARIJUANA. SO TONIGHT, STAFF IS PROPOSING A CODE UPDATE. AND ASKING THE PLANNING COMMISSION, TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL. SO THIS IS THE PROPOSED CHANGES. IT'S JUST IN TWO AREAS OF CITY CODE UNDER THE DEFINITIONS SECTION 1105. AND THEN THE GENERAL USE SECTIONS, WHICH IS 1127. SO CITY CODE CURRENTLY PROHIBITS THE COMMERCIAL CULTIVATION, PROCESSING AND DISPENSING OF MEDICAL MARIJUANA, THIS WAS PUT IN PLACE, PRIOR TO THE STATE ADOPTING AND PASSING THE LAW THAT ALLOWS FOR RECREATIONAL MARIJUANA. SO THIS IS OVERALL A VERY MINOR UPDATE, IT'S JUST ADDING THE WORD RECREATIONAL AND MARIJUANA TO THE ALREADY EXISTING, PROHIBITED, PROHIBITIONS AGAINST THOSE USES. AND SO STAFF HAS WORKED WITH THE LAW DIRECTOR, MR. ULBRICH, HERE TO ENSURE THAT THIS MEETS THE GOALS. AND INTENTS OF CITY COUNCIL, SO STAFF, IS HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS. QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION.HAS THERE BEEN ANY, RESEARCH OR ANY REVIEW OF ANY ADVERSE ENVIRONMENTAL OR OTHER EFFECTS AND IN OHIO, FOR OTHER PLACES WHERE CULTIVATION, PROCESSING AND DISPENSING, ETC, OF MARIJUANA HAS BEEN ALLOWED. BECAUSE I REMEMBER WHEN WE VOTED, WHEN WE MADE A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL SEVERAL YEARS AGO ON THIS, THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION OF PROBLEM, POTENTIAL PROBLEMS WITH ODOR AND OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT. CERTAINLY THAT WOULD BE WITH CULTIVATION AND PROCESSING. I SUSPECT THERE WOULDN'T BE SUCH PROBLEMS WITH WITH, WITH, SELLING IT, I'M JUST CURIOUS. NOT THAT I'M AWARE. LOOK AT, OUR LAW DIRECTOR TO SEE IF HE HAS ANY INSIGHT ON THAT TYPE OF RESEARCH. IF I WAS A BETTING MAN, I WOULD BET SOMEWHERE OUT THERE IN THE WORLD THERE ARE SOME RESEARCH ON THAT, BUT I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH IT, SO. AND DIDN'T CONSIDER THAT FOR PURPOSES OF WORKING WITH STAFF ON THE LANGUAGE. AND I TAKE IT THIS IS TOO NEW TO HAVE A LOT OF CASE LAW ON IT. VERY MUCH SO. YEAH. SO THIS IS ALL CONSISTENT WITH WHAT THE CITIES ARE ALLOWED TO DO. ONCE THE RECREATIONAL MARIJUANA LAW WAS PASSED, THEY COULD ALLOW IT OR NOT. SO THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH THAT. ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC? DO I HAVE A QUESTION? UNDER CURRENT OHIO LAW, CAN YOU HAVE A DISPENSARY THAT'S NOT CONTIGUOUS OR CONNECTED TO EITHER A PROCESSING OR CULTIVATING FACILITY? I'M NOT SURE, BUT I DON'T THINK SO. I THINK IT'S ALL THE SAME. I'M NOT SURE ON THAT. DO WE NEED TO PUT THE DOCUMENTS IN THE RECORD FOR THIS? YES, PLEASE. I MOVE, WE ACCEPT THE DOCUMENTS AND RELATED MATERIALS FOR THE CHANGE TO THE CODIFIED ORDINANCES INTO THE RECORD. DO I HEAR A SECOND ON THE DOCUMENTS? I'LL SECOND IT.
AND DISCUSSION ON THE DOCUMENTS. MOTION DUE TO THE ROLL, PLEASE. MR. KIRBY? YES. MR. LARSON? YES.
MR. WALLACE? NO MR. SHELL. YES, MISS. BRIGGS YES. THE MOTION PASSES. THERE ARE FOUR VOTES TO ADMIT THE DOCUMENTS. I DON'T I DON'T THINK THERE'S ENOUGH INFORMATION FOR. I THINK THINGS HAVE CHANGED SINCE WE VOTED ON THE MEDICAL MARIJUANA. AT LEAST I VOTED ON THE MEDICAL MARIJUANA ISSUE A FEW YEARS AGO. AND BASED ON WHAT WAS PRESENTED TO THE COMMISSION TONIGHT, I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT THERE'S ENOUGH EVIDENCE FOR ME TO DECIDE THAT WE SHOULD PRECLUDE THE CERTAINLY THE DISPENSING OF RECREATIONAL OR MEDICAL MARIJUANA IN THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY. WHY SHOULD PEOPLE IN NEW ALBANY HAVE TO DRIVE TO GAHANNA OR SOMEPLACE ELSE, IF THEY NEED MEDICAL MARIJUANA AND IT'S CORRECTLY, YOU KNOW, PRESCRIBED AND THE SAME THING ON THE RECREATIONAL SIDE. SO THAT'S WHY I VOTED. NO, NOT I THINK I THINK MORE RESEARCH AND REVIEW OF THAT ISSUE SHOULD GO INTO BEFORE WE MAKE A BLANKET RULE THAT WE'RE NOT THAT NONE OF THOSE THINGS EVEN JUST
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DISPENSING IT, I.E. SELLING IT, IS NOT ALLOWED IN NEW ALBANY. SO THANK YOU. OKAY DO YOU WANT TIME OR IS IT ARE YOU ASKING THAT WE HEAR. NO OKAY. NO. THAT'S ACTUALLY I JUMPED THE GUN.THAT'S THAT'S MY NEXT VOTE HERE. ALL RIGHT. DO YOUR MOTION ON THE ORDINANCE CHANGES THEMSELVES.
AND WE SIMPLY RECOMMENDING TO COUNSEL RECOMMENDING THIS COUNCIL. SHOULD I JUMP THE GUN.
SO I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE CITY CODE AMENDMENT CO 1105 AND 1127. TO CITY COUNCIL. DO I HEAR A SECOND? I'LL SECOND IT. AND DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION. OKAY. THE ROLL PLEASE, MR. SHELL. YES.
MR. LARSON? YES, MISS BRIGGS? YES MR. KIRBY? YES MR. WALLACE? NO, FOR THE REASONS PREVIOUSLY STATED. THANK YOU. THE MOTION PASSES. THERE ARE FOUR VOTES IN FAVOR OF RECOMMENDING THE AMENDMENT TO CITY COUNCIL. THANK YOU. THIS TAKES US TO INFORMAL REVIEW OF THE HAMLET. CAN WE HEAR FROM STAFF? YES, SURE. I'LL MAKE JUST A COUPLE OF QUICK COMMENTS BEFORE THE APPLICANT.
TAKES IT OVER HERE, BUT THE, THERE'S DEFINITELY A LOT OF INTEREST IN, YOU KNOW, REVIEWING THE SCHEDULE AND THE APPLICATION MATERIALS FOR THIS, DEVELOPMENT PROJECT, THE CITY, AS I KNOW, MOST OF THE BOARD IS AWARE, PUT TOGETHER A BOARDS AND COMMISSION CASES DASHBOARD. IT'S A GIS DASHBOARD THAT'S ON OUR WEBSITE WHERE FOLKS CAN FIND, ALL OF THE CURRENT INFORMATION ON THIS APPLICATION AND ANY OTHER APPLICATION THAT COMES BEFORE THE VARIOUS BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS IN NEW ALBANY, SO I JUST WANTED TO PUT THIS QR CODE UP HERE, FOR FOLKS EITHER HERE OR AT HOME OR WATCHING LATER. CAN, CAN, CAN GRAB THAT REALLY QUICK. AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE, THE HAMLET MICROSITE ON OUR CITY WEBSITE THIS HAS BEEN ON THERE RATHER DORMANT OBVIOUSLY, FOR THE PAST 18 MONTHS, BUT THAT THAT PAGE ON OUR WEBSITE DOES EXIST. AND I INCLUDED THAT QR CODE HERE AS WELL, AND JUST IN CASE ANYONE'S INTERESTED IN THE SCHEDULE FOR THIS PROJECT. SO THE PARKS AND TRAILS ADVISORY BOARD DID REVIEW AND RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE PARK AND OPEN SPACE TONIGHT AT THEIR MEETING, THE APPLICANT HAS TO COME BACK BEFORE THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD AND THEN BACK BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION AT A LATER DATE, TONIGHT IS JUST AN INFORMAL PRESENTATION, SO NO FORMAL ACTION WILL BE TAKEN ON THE APPLICATION. AND THOSE, THE ARB MEETING AND THE PC MEETING FOR THE FORMAL VOTES HAVE NOT YET BEEN SCHEDULED, BUT WE ANTICIPATE, THAT TO BE, THOSE TO BE IN SEPTEMBER. SO WITH THAT, I'LL PASS THINGS OVER TO JUSTIN.
GOOD EVENING, JUSTIN LYDA WITH STEINER AND ASSOCIATES. I JUST WANTED TO GET, TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME SPEAK WITH YOU ALL AGAIN. WE ARE GETTING VERY CLOSE TO MAKING OUR THE BALANCE OF OUR FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN SUBMISSION HERE. ACTUALLY, WE INTEND TO MAKE A PORTION OF IT THIS FRIDAY AND THEN THE NEXT PORTION IN A WEEK OR TWO SO THAT WE CAN HAVE FORMAL HEARINGS STARTING IN SEPTEMBER. SO I JUST WANTED TO RUN THROUGH A FAIRLY QUICK PRESENTATION, TELL THEM WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO TELL THEM. TELL THEM AND THEN TELL THEM, TELL THEM THAT, SO GIVING THE OVERVIEW JUST GOING TO HIT REAL QUICK ON WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING FOR THE PAST TWO YEARS, TALK ABOUT THE SITE PLAN PROGRESSION, TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE PARKLAND REFINEMENTS WE MADE, GIVE A LITTLE SNEAK PEEK OF SOME OF THE PRELIMINARY ARCHITECTURAL RENDERINGS AND THEN DISCUSSION OF SOME POTENTIAL WAIVERS THAT WE'LL TALK ABOUT AT THE END THAT WE WILL LIKELY BE SUBMITTING IN OUR FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND APPLICATION, SO, TAKING A LOOK OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS, WHAT WE'VE BEEN UP TO, WE'VE BEEN MEETING WITH THE CITY ONCE, TWICE A MONTH FOR THE PAST TWO YEARS SEEKING FEEDBACK, CONFIRMING EXPECTATIONS ON THE PLAN. THE ZONING TEXT. SO WE'RE MAKING SURE WE'RE ALL IN ALIGNMENT WITH WHERE WE'RE GOING, WE EXPANDED OUR TEAM. WE BROUGHT IN KEITH MYERS. IF ANYONE KNOWS KEITH, WHO, HE'S BEEN RETIRED NOW. HE'S KIND OF JOINED OUR TEAM ALONG WITH EMH AND TEA. SO HE'S BEEN GREAT IN HELPING US REFINE A LOT OF THE PARK DETAILS, WE HAVE FORMALIZED THE SITE PLAN AND GOT ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK FROM THE CITY AND MCCSC AND A HANDFUL OF DIFFERENT REVIEWS, WE'VE NEGOTIATED AGREEMENTS WITH SOME JV PARTNERS AND BUILDERS ON DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE SITE THAT ARE ALL PROGRESSING, AS FOLKS HAVE PROBABLY SEEN, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TO TRAIN ON HOUSES, WHETHER IT WAS, BREACHES OF DOORS ACTUALLY BURNING DOWN, EMS COMING UP AND DOWN STEPS, AND THAT'S ALL BEEN
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GOING AS THE SITE DEMOLITION HAS BEEN MOVING ALONG AND AS IF YOU DRIVE BY THE SITE MOST OF THINGS ARE FULLY OFF THE OFF THE SITE AT THIS POINT, AND IT LOOKS VERY DIFFERENT THAN IT PREVIOUSLY DID. ANOTHER KEY COMPONENT IS WE PREPARED A COMMUNITY WIDE PATTERN BOOK, IT'S BASICALLY AN INTERNAL SET OF DESIGN CRITERIA. YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE IMAGES HERE. IT'S KIND OF OUR GUIDELINES THAT WE ESTABLISH FOR OURSELVES AND OUR JV PARTNERS. IT'S NOT FORMALLY GOING TO BE APPROVED BY THE CITY, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT WHEN SOMEONE COMES TO US AND SAY, WE'RE WORKING ON THIS DESIGN, WE GO BACK AND REVIEW THAT AND STUDY DIFFERENT DETAILS. WE HAVE A FIRM OUT OF WASHINGTON, DC CALLED TORY CALLISON PARTNERS, AND WE CALL THEM OUR HAMLET ARCHITECTS. SO THEY'RE THE ONES WHO ESTABLISH THIS. IT'S ABOUT 45 PAGES. IT SAYS, YOU KNOW, HERE'S THE DO'S AND THE DON'TS AND THE WHYS AND DOWN TO ALL THE LITTLE DETAILS OF, FENCES ON, YOU KNOW, FROM STOOPS AND ALL THOSE SORTS OF DETAILS, AND THEN THE LAST COMPONENT IS WE'VE BEEN MEETING WITH RESTAURATEURS AND RETAILERS, FREQUENTLY WITH NUMEROUS FOLKS. WE'RE KIND OF IN THAT POINT NOW WHERE THEY'RE LIKE, ALL RIGHT, LET'S OR ARE YOU IS YOUR FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN GOING TO BE APPROVED SO THAT WE CAN START TO TAKE THIS TO THE NEXT LEVEL WITH THOSE NEGOTIATIONS ON THE SITE PLAN? COMPARED TO THE PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN, SERIES OF THINGS HAVE CHANGED. ONE COMPONENT IS WE HAVE WORKED WITH EXISTING TREE STRUCTURES THROUGHOUT THE SITE TO USE OPEN SPACE AND POCKET PARKS TO BE ORGANIZED ORGANIZATIONAL ELEMENTS FOR THE DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS. SO WE HAVE ONE HERE. WE HAVE ONE HERE, HERE, HERE. THOSE HAVE BEEN HELPING US SET THE PLANNING WORK AND SORT OF THE DESIGN OF THE BUILDING STRUCTURE SO THAT FOLKS HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE FRONTING ONTO GREEN SPACE OR IF THEY CHOOSE, THEY CAN FRONT ONTO THE PRIMARY ROADS, ANOTHER COMPONENT WE CALL THIS SUBAREA FOUR. IT'S SOME OF THE LANGUAGE FROM THE PREVIOUS, APPROVED PLAN. THIS WAS SUBAREA FOUR. WE WORKED ACTUALLY EXPANDED IT FROM 5.8 ACRES IN OUR PREVIOUS VERSION. IT'S NOW UP ALMOST TO EIGHT ACRES IN OUR CURRENT VERSION. WHEN THIS IS ALL SAID AND DONE, BALLPARK ABOUT 60% OF THE SITE WILL BE BACK OWNED BY THE CITY THERE THROUGH RIGHT AWAY WITH THE ROADS. THE PARKS, SOME OF THE OPEN SPACES. AND WE'VE BEEN REFINING THAT WITH THE CITY ON DIFFERENT MAINTENANCE. WHO'S GOING TO HANDLE OWNERSHIP AND MAINTENANCE OF DIFFERENT PIECES, ANOTHER COMPONENT, THE ZONING TEXT CALL FOR 25% OPEN SPACE. WE'VE BEEN WORKING TO PUSH THAT UP. IT'S CURRENTLY AT RIGHT AROUND 33%. SO WE'RE WE'RE EXCEEDING THAT, ANOTHER COMPONENT WE'VE BEEN DOING IS MODIFYING THE BUILDING LAYOUTS. THERE'S A COUPLE BEAUTIFUL TREES. THERE'S A HANDFUL OF, 54 INCH PIN OAKS THAT WE'VE BEEN STUDYING. WE HAVE A WHOLE SPREADSHEET THAT MHRA DID AND WENT AND ANALYZED EACH TREE AND THE HEALTH OF THOSE TREES. SO WE'VE BEEN MODIFYING WHERE WE CAN TRY TO SAVE CLUSTERS. AND SOME OF THESE AREAS PRESERVE SOME OF THESE TREES TO KEEP MODIFYING THE PLAN TO MAKE THOSE CORRECTIONS, DOWN IN THIS AREA, WE ACTUALLY HAD A DIFFERENT DESIGN ORIGINALLY THAT HAD ALLEYWAYS AND, SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT FEEL. BUT THE IMPACT WHILE ALLEYS ARE GREAT FROM A NEW URBANIST PERSPECTIVE, IT WAS WIPING OUT, SOME OF THE MATURE TREES IN THAT AREA. SO WE, WE KIND OF SIMPLIFIED THE PLANT TO PRESERVE THOSE TREES, WHICH IS A FOCUS, AND THEN THE OTHER COMPONENT, A LOT OF FEEDBACK WITH THE CITY TO DEFINE UPGRADES TO 605. SO YOU'LL SEE WE'VE INTRODUCED PARALLEL PARKING, BETTER CONNECTIVITY WITH THE LEISURE PATHS ON EITHER SIDE, THE PARALLEL PARKING. SOME PEOPLE LOVE IT, SOME PEOPLE HATE IT. BUT WHAT IT DOES DO IS IT SLOWS DOWN TRAFFIC. AND I KNOW THAT'S ONE THING WE'VE BEEN FOCUSED ON. AND I BELIEVE WE HEARD THAT IN THE PAST. SO HAVING THAT KIND OF BUFFER AS PEOPLE CROSS CENTRAL COLLEGE, THEY'LL BE OKAY. NOW WE'RE ENTERING A KIND OF THE MORE URBAN PART OF IF YOU WANT TO SAY, OF NEW ALBANY. AND THAT SHOULD ENCOURAGE THEM TO SLOW DOWN, GETTING TO PARKLAND UPDATE. SO WE DID JUST RIGHT BEFORE THIS PRESENT TO PARKS, TRAILS, PTA BOARD, DID RECEIVE APPROVAL AND THAT ONE, DON'T HAVE THE FULL HOUR THAT I HAD THERE TO KIND OF GO THROUGH PARTS OF THE PLAN, BUT DID WANT TO TALK ABOUT A HANDFUL OF COMPONENTS. AGAIN, THIS IS THE MAIN ORGANIZING ELEMENT FOR THE ENTIRE PROJECT, AND THAT'S THE SUGARLAND PARK LITTLE, RIGHT AROUND EIGHT ACRES. WHEN IT'S ALL SAID AND DONE, WE'LL BE WORKING PRIMARILY ON THE CREEK AREA. WE REMOVING INVASIVES AND DOING STREAMBANK RESTORATION AND A HANDFUL OF AREAS WHERE WE NOTICED SOME DETERIORATION, WE HAVE ADDED, I CAN'T REMEMBER HOW[00:20:03]
MANY, ALMOST TWO THIRDS OF A MILE OF LEISURE PATH THROUGH THIS AREA FOR WALKING AND CONNECTIVITY AS A BIT OF A TRAILHEAD. WE STILL HAVE SORT OF THE FRAMEWORK VISION THAT THIS COULD BE A LONGER PIECE OF A GREENWAY, THAT KIND OF SPANS ALL OF NEW ALBANY. SO WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO CONNECT TO THE WEST AND IF NEEDED, IF INTERESTED, WE COULD ALWAYS CONNECT TO THE EAST, AS WELL. WE HAVE INTRODUCED A COLLECTION OF DIFFERENT STYLES OF LEISURE AREAS FOR FAMILIES AND KIDS, STARTING UP IN THE CIVIC GREEN AREA, WE HAVE A MORE FORMAL GREEN STAGE THAT'S MORE THE STRUCTURE WHERE YOU HAVE RESTAURANTS AND THEIR PATIOS.THAT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE FORMAL AS YOU COME DOWN INTO THE SUGAR RUN PARK, THIS AREA IS A IS MORE OF THIS NATURAL PLAYGROUND. SO WE'RE USING ROCKS AND WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO CONNECT TO THE STREAM ITSELF, I, WE FEEL THAT ACTUALLY HAVING KIDS GO INTO THE CREEK AND PLAY WITH THE ROCKS AND PLAY WITH THE WATER IS ACTUALLY A POSITIVE. SO THAT IS ONE AREA WHERE THAT KIND OF MORE INFORMAL CONNECTIVITY IS TAKING PLACE. AND THEN OVER ON THE EAST SIDE, THAT IS WHERE OUR MORE STRUCTURED PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT OR ESCAPES, WE HAVE A, YOU KNOW, IT'S GEARED SLIGHTLY OLDER, MAYBE EIGHT, TEN, 11 AND UP FOR THE SCALE OF THAT EQUIPMENT IN THAT LOCATION. ANOTHER PIECE THAT WAS INTRODUCED IS HALEY DEETER HAD TO LEAVE, BUT SHE EXPLAINED IT MUCH BETTER THAN MYSELF, WE ARE WORKING WITH HER ON A ART WALK THAT WILL ACTUALLY SPAN THROUGH THE PROJECT. WE HAVE SPOTS HERE, HERE, HERE AND OVER IN THESE AREAS WHERE SHE IS GOING TO BE ISSUING A TASTING RFP FOR A CALL FOR ARTISTS, HANDFUL LOCAL, AND WE ARE GOING TO DO BASICALLY PUBLIC ART. THAT KIND OF SPRINKLES THROUGHOUT THE SITE WHERE PEOPLE CAN INTERACT WITH THOSE PIECES, IN ADDITION, WE'RE WORKING IN THIS AREA, DON'T HAVE PICTURES OF IT, BUT WE'RE WORKING ON A CONCEPT WHERE WE WILL GIVE ARTISTS BASICALLY A PLATFORM FOR A BIRDHOUSE AND THEN LET THEIR SORT OF CREATIVITY COME UP WITH THEIR INTERPRETATION OF WHAT THAT IS, BIRDHOUSE WISE. SO WHAT THAT DOES IN THE SORT OF LANDSCAPE, HAVING THIS KIND OF NICE POP OF COLOR, OR AN INTERESTING THING THAT MIGHT BE IN A FIELD OF MORE PRAIRIE GRASS OR NATURAL GRASSES, JUST GIVING A LITTLE BIT OF KIND OF ENERGY. ANOTHER COMPONENT WE HAVE REALLY FOCUSED ON IS ALTERNATIVE STORMWATER STRATEGIES. SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY TRADITIONAL SURFACE PONDS IN THIS AREA, THERE ARE TWO COMPONENTS OVER DOESN'T SHOW HERE. AND HERE WHERE WE HAVE PERMEABLE PAVERS ON THE STREETS THAT KIND OF HAVE A GREAT FEEL FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD. WE HAVE SOME UNDERGROUND DETENTION IN THIS PARKING LOT ALSO WITH THE COLLECTION OF PERMEABLE PAVERS.
AND THEN WE HAVE THESE AREAS WHICH ARE BIO RETENTION BASINS, WHICH WILL BE VEGETATED AREAS, PROVIDING ADDITIONAL HABITAT FOR WILDLIFE, BUTTERFLIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. THAT CAN EXIST IN THERE. SO THAT GIVES A SNAPSHOT OF THE PARK AND AGAIN, WE THAT WAS APPROVED IN THE MEETING FOR THIS. GETTING TO PRELIMINARY ARCHITECTURE. SO WHERE WE ARE AT, AGAIN WE HAVE OUR VILLAGE, OUR OUR HAMLET ARCHITECT WITH SORT OF THE GATEKEEPER THAT WORKS WITH US TO GIVE FEEDBACK TO OUR JV PARTNERS ON DIFFERENT PIECES. WE ACTUALLY HAD SOME INFORMAL CONVERSATIONS WITH THE CITY ARCHITECT AS WELL TO GET FEEDBACK. IF I COULD STOP YOU FOR A SECOND. SO YOU'RE SHOWING THIRD FLOOR WINDOWS IN THE ATTICS. ARE THOSE HABITABLE? THOSE ARE, YES. HALLELUJAH.
BECAUSE YOU'RE GONNA HAVE SOME GREAT VIEWS. I ASKED FOR THIS AT KESWICK AND DIDN'T GET IT. YES.
SO, THE MOST OF THE RESIDENTIAL IS THREE STORIES. THIS BUILDING IS ACTUALLY A TWO STORY, AND THAT ONE IS FAKE. BUT THERE ARE MANY UNITS THAT ARE IN THE. THIS BUILDING IS. BUT THOSE THE WINDOWS, THE WINDOW DORMERS IN THE ROOF ARE HABITABLE SPACE. THAT IS HABITABLE SPACE.
EXCELLENT YES, WE'VE BEEN WORKING VERY DILIGENTLY ON THE CROSS SECTION OF EACH STREET JUST TO MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND HOW THAT WORKS WITH KEITH AND FRANCO. AND YOU MENTIONED TEAM TO UNDERSTAND ALL THE SPACING AND THE DETAILS, THE COMMERCIAL WE HAVE THE ENTIRE PROJECT AND 3D MODELS. SO, WE WILL START TO KIND OF INTRODUCE THAT MODEL AS WE CAN FLY IN AND LOOK AT DIFFERENT PARTS AND PIECES. THIS HAS BEEN A AND IS STILL A WORK IN PROGRESS THESE NEXT TWO DAYS AS WE'VE BEEN LIKE PUSHING AND PULLING AND GIVING. I WAS TELLING SOMEONE WERE THERE ARGUING OVER THE ANGLE OF JACK ARCHES ON EACH LITTLE, YOU KNOW, WINDOW. SO A LOT OF SCRUTINY AND
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DETAILS AS WE GET READY TO SUBMIT THIS FOR THE ARB ON FRIDAY, THIS JUST GIVES A GLIMPSE OF SOME OF THE DIFFERENT TOWNHOME PRODUCT. AND THEN ALSO ON THE SUB AREA THREE, WHICH IS THAT EAST SIDE, WE HAVE A LONG LINEAR PARK THAT GOES MORE SOUTH. AND THESE ARE THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, THE CONCEPT DESIGN FOR THOSE THAT WILL BE FRONTING THAT, THAT PARK. SO NOW, ONE OF THE REASONS. SO WE HAVE BEEN VERY FOCUSED ON THE ZONING TEXT AND ALL THE DETAILS TO FIND OUT.IS THERE ANYTHING WHERE WE MAY BE IN CONFLICT WITH SOMETHING THAT'S CURRENTLY THERE? AND THERE ARE 4 OR 5 THAT WE IDENTIFIED. AND SO WE WANTED TO BRING AND MENTION THOSE TODAY, POTENTIALLY SEE IF THERE'S SUPPORT FOR THOSE, WE DO ANTICIPATE MAKING FORMAL REQUESTS FOR THAT IN THE FDP APPLICATION WHEN WE SUBMIT THAT HERE IN THE NEXT WEEK OR TWO, SO THE FIRST ONE IS THAT THE ZONING TEXT REQUIRES FIVE FOOT SIDEWALKS ON BOTH SIDES OF STREETS, AND THERE ARE AREAS WITHIN THE SITE PLAN WHERE WE FEEL THAT FIVE FEET ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET, WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO CREATE THIS MORE INTIMATE, QUAINT HAMLET STREET THAT IS, YOU KNOW, BRICK STREETS AND, YOU KNOW, FRONT PORCHES THAT FIVE FEET'S A LITTLE TOO WIDE. AND SO WE ARE REQUESTING OR WILL BE REQUESTING THE ABILITY TO GO DOWN TO FOUR FEET IN CERTAIN AREAS THAT ARE INTERNAL TO THE INDIVIDUAL NEIGHBORHOODS. THE EXTERIOR RIGHT OF WAY IS STILL GOING TO BE THE EIGHT FOOT LEISURE PATHS. THE PRIMARY ROADS ARE STILL GOING TO HAVE FIVE FEET ON EITHER SIDE OF THEM. BUT AS YOU GET INTO THE SOME OF THE INDIVIDUAL, RESIDENTIAL CLUSTERS, WE LIKE THAT FLEXIBILITY TO GO DOWN TO FOUR FEET. IS THAT STILL HOLDING THE SAME OVERALL WIDTH. SO THE GREEN SPACE GREW A FOOT.
CORRECT. SO IT DIDN'T SHRINK. IT DID NOT. SO THAT WAS AS FRANK O'KEEFE AND I, I MEAN, GETTING DOWN TO INCHES ON SOME OF THESE PUBLIC SPACES LIKE, MAN, WHEN YOU HAVE FIVE FEET ON THIS SIDE AND FIVE FEET ON THIS SIDE, NOW YOU'RE SHRINKING THIS. AND IF WE PUT A WALKWAY IN FRONT OF THOSE FIVE HOUSES, I SHOWED, THAT'S ANOTHER FIVE. IT REALLY STARTED TO EAT AT THAT. SO, THERE ARE NUMEROUS EXAMPLES WITHIN THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY THAT ALREADY ARE AT FOUR FEET. AND, AND THEY'RE DOING THAT IN LOCATIONS EVEN I THINK THERE'S A FEW THAT ARE EVEN, YOU KNOW, SMALLER THAN THAT, WHERE IT'S CONSISTENT AND APPROPRIATE FOR THE SCALE OF THAT, THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. SO THIS IS NOT BLANKET. THIS IS JUST, YOU KNOW, CERTAIN AREAS WHERE WE FEEL IT WOULD MAKE A BENEFIT TO THE OLD CONCRETE SIDEWALKS THAT HAVE A DATE STAMPED ON THEM, OR THREE FEET THAT WE SAY THAT, AGAIN, THE OLDER CONCRETE SIDEWALKS THAT HAVE A DATE STAMPED IN THEM ARE ARE THREE FEET. OKAY, I LIVE OKAY. I'M GOING TO ASK THE VILLAGE TO KEEP MINE BECAUSE IT'S THEY'RE GOING TO MOVE MY ROAD. JUSTIN, DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA LIKE WHAT'S THE PERCENTAGE THAT WE'RE TALKING? IS THIS LIKE IN 20%, I WOULD SAY PROBABLY LESS THAN THAT. OKAY, IF I GO TO THIS PLAN PRIMARILY, WE'RE LOOKING AT AREAS RIGHT ALONG ON THAT PART, WE ARE STILL PROPOSING A FIVE FOOT ALL THE WAY HERE, BUT THIS INTERNAL ONE WHERE IT'S RIGHT UP AGAINST THE HOUSES, WE THOUGHT THAT COULD GO TO FOUR FEET. AND THEN THERE ARE MAYBE A FEW RIGHT HERE WHERE WE'RE PROPOSING FOUR FEET, BUT IT'S ONLY, IT'S REALLY INTERNAL. IT'S NOT PRIMARY ACCESS WAYS THROUGH THE. THAT'S FAIRLY SMALL AMOUNT. YES. QUESTION FOR STAFF. ARE THERE OTHER AREAS IN NEW ALBANY WITH THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS? THIS LOOKS LIKE MAYBE LIKE THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES THAT WOULD HAVE THAT WIDTH OF SIDEWALK. YEAH. THERE ARE, ASHTON GROVE IS PROBABLY THE EXAMPLE THAT COMES TO MIND. I THINK THAT'S EVEN PICTURED HERE. STEVE, CAN YOU THINK OF ANY OTHER ONES HEALING? MAYBE. YEAH, I KNOW THERE ARE MULTIPLE SECTIONS OF THE COUNTRY CLUB WHERE THERE ARE SMALLER SECTIONS TO CREATE A MORE INTIMATE, I GUESS STREETSCAPE IN THOSE AREAS. SO FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS, THAT WAS THE STANDARD SIZE WHEN THEY GREW IT FROM THREE FEET BEING TOO NARROW. GREAT. SO COUNTRY CLUB NEIGHBORHOOD TYPE DEAL. YEAH I THINK EDGE OF WOODS TWO MIGHT ALSO BE ANOTHER ONE PICK UP PLACE. MAYBE YEAH. IN THE AREAS WHERE YOU'RE PROPOSING IT WOULD THERE'S BE SIDEWALKS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET OR JUST ON ONE. IT WOULD BE ON BOTH. YEP THIS IS ACTUALLY A PROJECT IN
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MARYLAND CALLED THE KENTLANDS, WHERE OUR ARCHITECT LIVES. AND SO HE KEEPS SENDING US THIS PICTURE BECAUSE IT HAS A SIMILAR LINEAR PARK. THIS IS NOT ORIENTED TO NORTH SOUTH. IT'S ACTUALLY THIS WAY, BUT A VERY SIMILAR CONDITION WHERE THEY, THEY SHRUNK DOWN TO EVEN UNDER FOUR FEET IN THAT PROJECT. AND IT FELT APPROPRIATE, ESPECIALLY THEN WHEN YOU'RE ADDING BRING STREETS AND SOME OF THOSE DETAILS. THANK YOU. SO THAT IS ONE THE SECOND IS THAT, IN THE ZONING TEXT, WE CANNOT HAVE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES IN SUBAREA THREE, WHICH IS THE EAST SIDE, WE CANNOT HAVE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES FRONT NEW ALBANY. CONDIT THEY NEEDED TO EITHER BE TOWNHOMES OR DUPLEXES. SO AS WE LAID OUT THE PLAN, WE ACTUALLY EDITED OUT THAT TO CREATE A LITTLE BIT MORE BREATHING ROOM IN THE PROJECT, AND SO WE ACTUALLY TOOK OUT SOME DUPLEXES FROM THAT SIDE OF THE STREET. AND THE END CONDITION WAS THAT WE ENDED UP WITH THIS AT THE MAIN ENTRY, NORTH IS UP HERE. THIS IS 605. SO THOSE TWO LOTS, AS YOU COME IN, WE ARE PROPOSING A SINGLE FAMILY HOME ON EACH SIDE, SORT OF CREATING THIS GATEWAY FEATURE, AND THEN WE HAVE CURRENTLY, IT'S A GAZEBO. WE'RE DEBATING IF IT WILL BECOME A MAJOR SCULPTURE PIECE, THAT IS KIND OF THE FOCAL POINT BEYOND THAT, BUT WE FELT IT WAS A BETTER SPACING, AND JUST A BETTER FEEL TO HAVE THE ABILITY FOR THOSE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AT THE ENTRY. THERE WITH THE ENTRANCEWAY BE YOU'RE SAYING THE FRONTING, THEY GO INTO THE HOUSE THAT WAY, THEY WOULD. YES. OKAY.YEP THIS UNIT IS A WHICH FRONTS ALSO THE PARK, WE'VE BEEN TALKING HOW THAT IS GOING TO HAVE KIND OF A SPECIAL SOUTHSIDE. IT'S A TRICKY ONE BECAUSE AS A SPECIAL WEST ELEVATION HAS A SPECIAL NORTH ELEVATION, HAS A SPECIAL SOUTH ELEVATION. AND THEN WE'LL BE DOING ACTUALLY A BRICK WALL DETAILING ON THE, ON THE EAST SIDE, SO THESE ARE, THESE ARE PRETTY PROMINENT. THOSE ARE REALLY INTENDED TO BE KIND OF TWO OF OUR JEWEL HOMES. THAT ARE KIND OF THE GATEWAY TO THE PROJECT. AND JUST AS THE DUPLEXES, JUST TRYING TO GET THEM IN OR JUST IT TIGHTEN THINGS UP A LITTLE TOO MUCH AND WE JUST FELT A LITTLE MORE BREATHING ROOM WAS APPROPRIATE. OKAY SO THAT IS NUMBER TWO. NUMBER THREE, SO IN SUBAREA TWO, THE ZONING TEXT HAS VARYING HEIGHT LIMITATIONS, EITHER 40FT OR 50FT, DEPENDING ON THE PROXIMITY OF CENTRAL COLLEGE ROAD AND THE PROXIMITY TO THE CENTRAL GREEN AREA, WE ARE REQUESTING THAT THE UNITS HAVE THE ABILITY TO GO TO 44FT IN THAT SUB AREA, AND THE PRIMARY DRIVER FOR THAT IS, IF FOLKS ARE FAMILIAR WITH RICHMOND SQUARE, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU HAVE A TWO AND A HALF STORY ELEVATION, FRONTING A MAJOR ROAD. SO IN ALL CONDITIONS WHERE THESE UNITS ARE FRONTING 605 OR CENTRAL COLLEGE, WE HAD COMMITTED TO HAVING A TWO AND A HALF STORY KIND OF ESTHETIC VERSUS A TALLER PRESENCE THERE. SO IN THESE THEY'RE VERY SIMILAR. RICHMOND SQUARE, WHERE THE MAIN ENTRY IS ACTUALLY ON THE SECOND LEVEL, AND THEN THE VEHICULAR ENTRANCE IS ON THE BASICALLY THE LOWER LEVEL, IN THESE LOCATIONS, WHAT HAPPENS IS BECAUSE THAT'S PARTIALLY BURIED, YOU HAVE 36FT AT THE FRONT, AND THEN YOU HAVE 44FT WHERE THE GARAGE IS, YOU KNOW, EXPOSED IN THE BACK. AND THEN SO THAT WHEN YOU AVERAGE IT AT THE FOUR CORNERS, WHICH IS THE REQUIREMENT, IT BECOMES THE 40FT. SO WE ARE SAYING WE WOULD STILL MAINTAIN THIS AT ALL PERIMETER LOCATIONS. CENTRAL COLLEGE AND 605. BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO THEN HAVE A CONSISTENCY OF WITH THIS IS 44 IN THE BACK. WE'D LIKE TO JUST HAVE THE ABILITY TO THEN DO 44 ACROSS THE BALANCE OF THAT SUB AREA, AND THEN WE WOULD FOREGO THE ABILITY TO DO 50FT IN ANY LOCATION. SO IT KIND OF LEVELS THAT OUT INSTEAD OF HAVING TO STEP UP AND DOWN. IT PROVIDES SORT OF BETTER DATA POINT FOR THE UNITS. IN ADDITION, WHAT IT DOES DO, FOR SALABILITY AND THE QUALITY LEVEL, THIS DOES GIVE US THE BENEFIT OF HAVING NINE FOOT FLOOR TO FLOOR, YOU KNOW, IN
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THE, IN THE UNITS, WHICH WAS FROM OUR JV PARTNERS WAS VERY DESIRABLE. SO I'M SORRY, THIS IS A DUMB QUESTION, BUT ARE THE ONES THAT DON'T HAVE THE 36, DO THEY NOT HAVE THE GARAGE UNDER THEM? THEY DO. IT'S THE LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, THAT WOULD BE THE GARAGE SIMILAR TO THAT. IT'S JUST IN THIS ONE. IT'S NOT THE FRONT DOOR IS ON THAT LOWER LEVEL WITH THE GARAGE. IT'S NOT.THE ENTRY IS NOT COMING UP TO THE SECOND LEVEL. OKAY COULD YOU DO THAT FOR ALL OF THEM? WE DON'T DO THE UPS AND DOWNS WITH GRADE. IT WOULD BE. IT WOULD BE VERY. WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO DO THAT. OKAY BECAUSE WE'RE EVEN HERE, WE'RE HAVING TO PICK UP EIGHT FEET OF BECAUSE OF THE GRADE. SO THE GRADE IS THE REASON WHY YOU NEED TO HAVE IT BE, BUT YOU DON'T. OKAY YES. AND THEN WE'RE FOREGOING THE ABILITY TO GO TO 50 SO THAT EVERYTHING IS MORE, CONSISTENT IN THAT SUB AREA. AND WITH THIS NEGATE LIKE DORMERS, LIKE ON THE 44TH WARD IN THE MIDDLE, YOU'D STILL HAVE DORMERS. THE ARCHITECTURE WOULD ARE THE SAME REQUIREMENTS, CORRECT? YEAH. SOME HAVE DORMERS, SOME DON'T, DEPENDING ON THE SPECIFIC ROOF WE'RE WORKING WITH ON THOSE. BUT BASED ON THE WHERE THE LINE IS DRAWN IN ALL 44 OF THOSE. YEAH. BUT YOU'RE NOT LOOKING TO CHANGE THE DRGS BASICALLY. THAT'S CORRECT. EXCEPT I WILL I DO HAVE ONE DRG, COMMENT THAT IS COMING UP. OKAY, CAN YOU REMIND ME WHAT, SUBAREA TWO IS AGAIN, PLEASE? AREA TWO IS. IS BASICALLY THIS WHOLE AREA HERE OKAY? YEAH THE CORNER. YEAH. AND JUST AND WHY YOU'RE ON THIS, COULD YOU JUST, JUST QUICKLY WE TALKED ABOUT THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ON THE SOUTHWEST AND ON THE, THE EAST, THE SUBZONE TWO. COULD YOU JUST GIVE US KIND OF A BREAKDOWN OF ARE THEY ALL APARTMENTS? SOME CONDOS, SOME TOWNHOMES. SO JUST KIND OF GIVING AN OVERVIEW, THESE ARE A MIX OF SINGLE FAMILY AND THOSE DUPLEXES, THESE ARE ALL SINGLE FAMILY. ALL THESE WILL BE CUSTOM, UP HERE. THESE ARE ALL TOWNHOMES, THESE ARE TOWNHOMES. AS WELL, THIS IS 40 UNITS OF A LUXURY CONDO RENTAL.
STILL, YOU KNOW, MOST LIKELY RENTAL, BUT VERY HIGH PRICE POINT, PROBABLY EVEN HIGHER QUALITY LEVEL THAN MAYBE SOME OF THE TOWNHOMES IN THAT LOCATION. AND THEN THIS IS THE COMMERCIAL AREA WHERE DON'T HAVE THE EXACT ROUGHLY 48,000FT■!S OF RESTAURA, RETAIL AND OFFICE IN THE TOWNHOMES, ALL FOR RENT OR NO, SOME ALL FOR SALE. YES. COULD AN INVESTOR RENT THEM AND YES, SOMEONE COULD. DEFINITELY, I'VE BEEN TOLD OHIO LAW SAYS YOU CAN'T STOP SOMEBODY FROM RENTING THEIR PROPERTY. WELL, IT DEPENDS HOW THE, THE HOA IS. YEAH YEAH. THERE. THERE'S A CHANCE THESE MIGHT BE RENTAL, BUT THAT'S ALSO. THIS IS ALL BEING EVALUATED. EVERYTHING IS BUILT AT A CONDO QUALITY. OKAY, AND LIKE THE EVERYTHING FOR SALE. SO FROM A PERCENTAGE STANDPOINT, IT'S VERY MINIMAL AND POTENTIAL RENTALS. YES. AND, YEAH, I DON'T HAVE I DON'T, I'M GUESSING OVER CLOSE TO 4000 A MONTH TYPE PRICE POINT. GOTCHA. THANK YOU. SO NOW TO DEGARS, SO THE DEGARS CURRENTLY REQUIRE THAT RESIDENTIAL UNITS ARE RESIDENTIAL, HAVE ENTRIES THAT ARE TWO FEET ABOVE GRADE, KENNEDY. THERE ARE NUMEROUS EXAMPLES THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND THROUGHOUT MULTIPLE THAT THAT IS NOT IN CONFORMANCE. I GUESS, OF THAT, WE ARE CHALLENGED BY THAT TWO FOOT HEIGHT IN A, IN A FEW LOCATIONS FOR A COUPLE REASONS. ONE, OUR TARGET CUSTOMER IS DOES NOT HAVE CHILDREN AND IS PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT OLDER, WE ARE NOT HAVING BASEMENTS IN THESE TOWNHOMES. AND SO AS YOU WORK THROUGH THE DETAILING OF HAVING A TWO FOOT ENTRY, THEN YOU HAVE TO BRING UP A SLAB. AND IT'S A VERY COMPLICATED DETAIL, AND IT THEN ADDS A WHOLE NEW SET OF STEPS TO, TO GET INTO THE FACILITY. ALSO, PRECEDENT WISE, WHEN YOU RESEARCH HAMLETS WHICH IF ANYONE YOU MIGHT KNOW, OUR OUR VILLAGE ARCHITECT, BRIAN LOONEY FROM TORTI GALAS IS LIKE
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HE IS MR. HAMLET, SO HE SENDS PICTURES FROM ALL OVER THE PLACE. THERE ARE NO EXAMPLES WHERE IT'S A FULL TWO FEET IN THOSE EXAMPLES. SO WHAT WE ARE REQUESTING IS THAT WE STILL HAVE STEPS GOING UP, BUT WE HAVE MINIMUM OF TWO RISERS AND THAT MIGHT BE 18IN OR 14IN, BUT NOT A, NOT A FULL TWO FEET, WHICH IS FOR EXAMPLE, THAT IMAGE, THAT'S ONLY ROUGHLY TEN INCHES, TO THE TO THE ENTRY. BUT THE MAIN FLOOR WOULD BE AT GRADE, WHERE THE PARKING IS FOR SOME OF THESE.FOR SOME OF THESE, YES. SO THEY, THERE'S NO GARAGE STEP UP. WELL THE GARAGE, YOU'LL HAVE TO STEP UP FROM THE GARAGE INTO THE, INTO THE MAIN FLOOR, ACCESSIBILITY. IT'S 1FT/IN OF RISE IF YOU NEED TO PUT A RAMP IN. AND SO IF YOU'RE TAKE A LOOK AT ACCESSIBILITY, PARTICULARLY IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT A MORE MATURE, CLIENT BECAUSE A PLACE THAT DOESN'T INVOLVE TEN FEET OF RAMP IS A HUGE SELLING POINT FOR FOLKS. AND IF SOMEONE'S DIFFERENTLY ABLED, IT'S INSTANTLY, ACCESSIBLE TO THEM TO BE TO HAVE SOME SPOT WHERE IT'S JUST WE COME IN ON GRADE OR IT'S CURB, IT'S RAMPED SOMEWHERE. IT MIGHT NOT HAVE TO BE THE FRONT DOOR. IT COULD BE IN THE BACK OR IN THE GARAGE. YEAH. WHILE YOU WHILE YOU'VE GOT THE LID OFF OF THIS ONE, TAKE A LOOK AT JUST EVERYTHING THAT'S INVOLVED THERE. AND YOU MAY BE ABLE TO MAKE THE CASE FOR. YEAH, DIFFERENT HEIGHTS THAN 18IN. DO WE HAVE DIFFERENT HEIGHTS IN OUR 55 AND OLDER COMMUNITIES? OKAY.
YEAH I THINK THAT EVERY 55 AND OLDER COMMUNITY THAT'S BEEN APPROVED, RECENTLY IS RECEIVED A VARIANCE TO THE SAME CODE SECTION TO ALLOW FOR THE FRONT DOOR TO BE AT GRADE. FOR GOOD REASON, NO QUESTION. I THINK IT'S ALL ON THE EPCON ONES TOO. I DON'T THINK THE OTHER ONES DO.
I THINK IT'S JUST THE EPCON ONES AND THE VARIANCE. SO I BELIEVE I KNOW. EPCON. AND NOTTINGHAM HAVE BOTH RECEIVED THAT VARIANCE. AND I THINK EPCON THEY HAVE TWO PRODUCTS NOW AND COURTYARDS THAT NEW OPENING COURTYARDS AND HEINZ CREEK BOTH I THINK THAT WAS WRITTEN THERE. BUT THEY DIDN'T RECEIVE A VARIANCE THAT WAS IN THEIR PAD TEXT. SO I THINK IT WAS CONSIDERED AS PART OF THEIR REZONING. SO MAYBE I MISSPOKE AS FAR AS VARIANCE GOES, THOSE ARE THE TWO THAT I'M FAMILIAR WITH.
I THINK THOSE ARE SOME OF MORE OF OUR MORE RECENT PRODUCTS AS WELL. AND IT'S CODE NOW. BUT WHEN THE CODE PASSED, IT WAS NOT WITHOUT ITS DETRACTORS THAT THE 24IN, SAYS THERE'S EXACTLY ONE TYPOLOGY. AND IT'S WOULD YOU SEE LIKE ON YANKEES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WHERE EVERYTHING IS OF A PARTICULAR STYLE AND IT SUPPORTS A BASEMENT BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT ENOUGH WALL NOW TO HAVE A BASEMENT WALL, AND MAYBE WE NEED MORE THAN JUST ONE STYLE. I KNOW MARKETING MAIN BECAUSE WE STUDIED THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TWO FEET. SO WE THERE WERE, THERE WERE DEFINITELY EXAMPLES AND IT WAS JUST ONE OF THOSE THINGS AS WE'VE BEEN GOING THROUGH, YOU KNOW, WITH A FINE COMB, THEY SAID, OH, THAT TECHNICALLY COULD BE, COULD BE AN ISSUE. BUT DUCHAMP THAT AROUND WITH MORE PEOPLE THAN ME. GO AHEAD. OKAY AND THEN I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF. SO THE DRGS IS THAT A PLANNING COMMISSION DECISION OR ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD? COMMISSION DECISION? BOTH. IT WOULD BE BOTH. THE ARB WOULD REVIEW ALL THE WAIVERS AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION AS PART OF THE FDP TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION. OKAY. THANKS AND I THINK THIS IS THE LAST ONE, WHEN WE WENT THROUGH THIS PROCESS, I THINK ONE OF THE KEY THINGS WE WERE FOCUSED ON AND CAME UP IN CONVERSATION IS WE DID NOT WANT THE COMMERCIAL AREA TO BE BIG BOX RETAIL. AND SO THE ZONING TEXT ACTUALLY HAS A RESTRICTION FOR ANY TENANT, SINGLE TENANT BEING GREATER THAN 10,000FT■!S, WHICH FROM RETAIL AND ALL THAT. I TOTALLY AGREE WITH, HOWEVER, AS WE HAVE BEEN TALKING WITH OFFICE TENANTS AND FOLKS LIKE THAT, IF THEY WANT 13,000FT■!S, THAT WOULD BE IN VIOLATION OF THIS. SO WE JUST WANTED THE ABILITY TO CLARIFY THAT, THAT 10,000 SQUARE FOOT RESTRICTION WOULD BE ON RETAIL. WHAT WOULD YOU PROPOSE WOULD BE FOR COMMERCIAL NON RETAIL? CANDIDLY, WE'RE WE CAN ONLY GET SO MUCH SQUARE FOOTAGE IN THERE, BUT WE'VE DEFINITELY HAD OFFICE USERS IN THE, WE HAD SOMEONE IN THE 18,000FT■!S, ASK IF THEY COD TAKE OFFICE, BUT THEN ALSO, DO
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YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT USES ALONG WITH THEIR OFFICE ON THE GROUND FLOOR, SO THAT WAS ANOTHER ONE WHERE, OKAY, THAT WOULD BE RESTRICTED, BUT THAT WASN'T THE MY UNDERSTANDING OR REMEMBRANCE TWO YEARS BACK. THE ORIGINAL INTENT WAS WE JUST DON'T WANT A BIG BOX RETAILER COMING IN HERE, AND IT'S JUST THE WAY IT ULTIMATELY WAS WORDED IT AGAIN, AS WE WERE STUDYING THE TEXT, WE WERE AFRAID THAT COULD BE A, AN ISSUE. SO I THAT'S REALLY IT. I JUST WANTED TO AT LEAST INTRODUCE THOSE, SEE IF THERE WAS INITIAL FEEDBACK ON THOSE AS WE ARE, WE'RE GEARING UP FOR ARB SUBMISSION WITHIN THE WEEK,ND THEN WE HOPE TO BE ABLE TO SUBMIT THE FULL FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN, FULL APPLICATION PACKAGE BY THE 16TH. SO THAT, KNOCK ON WOOD, WE COULD BE AT ARB ON NOVEMBER 9TH, SORRY, SEPTEMBER 9TH. AND THEN IN FRONT OF YOU ALL ON SEPTEMBER 20TH 16TH. ON SEPTEMBER 16TH. A QUICK QUESTION, I MY RECOLLECTION WAS THAT WHEN WE DISCUSSED THIS BEFORE, THERE WAS GOING TO BE A GREATER PERCENTAGE OF APARTMENT UNITS VERSUS, YOU KNOW, OWN, YOU KNOW, CONDOS OR SINGLE FAMILY. AND IT STRIKES ME THAT THERE'S BEEN SOME SORT OF CHANGE IN THAT. AND, ACTUALLY, I THINK THE IF I RECALL, THE ZONING TEXT REFERENCES BASICALLY 40 FLATS, IS WHAT THE ZONING TEXT SAID. AND WE'RE ACTUALLY, THAT BUILDING IS FULLY FIND IT, THAT BUILDING, IS 40 FLATS. SO. OKAY, WE'RE WE'RE MATCHING THAT. SO THAT'S CONSISTENT. OKAY. THE UNIT TYPE IS STILL, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT SOME OF THE SINGLE FAMILY. ARE YOU KNOW, THEY'RE THEY'RE STILL CONSTRAINED BY SOME OF THOSE LOTS ON THE BOTTOM OR, YOU KNOW, UNDER 1.2 ACRES.SO, THESE ARE NOT GOING TO BE LARGE. THEY IT IS GOING TO BE YOU KNOW, SLIGHTLY SMALLER UNITS IN SOME OF THESE. OKAY IS THERE AN APPETITE FOR THAT MUCH OFFICE IN THE CURRENT CONDITIONS AND PROJECTED CONDITIONS? THE 10,000 IN EXCESS OF 10,000FT■!S. I'VE WE'VE HAD THREE VERY DELIBERATE CONVERSATIONS IN THE PAST SIX WEEKS. OKAY. I'D ALSO SAY WE DID ALSO TALK TO OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TEAM. AND THEY SAID THAT THAT 10,000 SQUARE FOOT LIMITATION, IS BURDENSOME ON GETTING A GOOD OFFICE TENANT. THAT WOULD MOST OF THE, YOU KNO, THE INTEREST THEY GET IS ABOVE 10,000FT■!S. SO THE IF YOU LOOK GLOBALLY AT OFFICE, IT MIGHT BE, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE FLAT OR STAGNANT IN AREAS, PROJECTS LIKE THIS THAT HAVE THE OPEN SPACE, HAVE THE RESTAURANTS, HAVE THE PUBLIC ENVIRONMENT. THAT'S WHERE PEOPLE ARE LOOKING TO THEN TRANSITION INTO THESE ENVIRONMENTS. SO IF NOTHING ELSE, YOU'RE GOING TO CANNIBALIZE SOMEBODY ELSE'S LESSER PIECE. YEAH. OKAY. YEAH PLAUSIBLE. BUT I WOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT BY ALLOWING MORE THAN 10,000FT■!S, AS DO ALL THE BUILDINGS BECOME GREATER THAN 10,000FT■!S. AND YOU HAVE A LOTF LARGE OFFICES OR SOMETHING, RIGHT? I'D WANT TO RESTRICT IT TO A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE. SO IT'S NOT FIVE 15,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDINGS. THERE ARE NOTHING SMALL, RIGHT? YEAH. I THINK, THE YOU'LL SEE IN THE PLAN, THERE'S STILL A INTENT TO KEEP A SMALLER SCALE AROUND THAT CIVIC GREEN OF THE ARCHITECTURE. SO THAT IS OUR INTENT. AND THEN ONE OF THE KEY THINGS IN THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN IS THE UPDATED PARKING MODEL. AND, CANDIDLY, THE PARKING MODEL WILL BE ONE OF THE MAIN CONSTRAINTS THAT TELLS US HOW MUCH CAPACITY WE HAVE, I DO THINK, CANDIDLY, IF WE CAME IN WITH 40,000FT■!S OF OFFICE AND E RESTAURANT, I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD MEET THE ORIGINAL INTENT OF THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN WHERE WE, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT HAVING KIND OF THESE AREAS WITH RESTAURANTS AND PUBLIC SPACES. SO I THINK WE'RE WE'RE JUST CONSTRAINED. WE COULDN'T EVEN DO THAT MUCH OFFICE IF WE, IF WE WANTED TO. YEAH. THE, THE PLAN LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE TRYING TO HIT THAT INTENT. RIGHT. AND EVERYTHING. BUT IF WE'RE GOING TO GIVE AN APPROVAL FOR A WAIVER, I WANT THE TEXT TO ADDRESS THAT CONCERN AS PART OF THE TEXT, AND IT DOESN'T SOUND
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LIKE THAT SHOULD BE AN ISSUE BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT INTENDING TO DO THAT ANYWAY. AND IS ONE BUILDING BIGGER THAN THAT ENOUGH? YOU KNOW, WHEN WOULD YOU DRAW THE LINE AND SAY, WE COULD HAVE UP TO TWO BUILDINGS AT 12,000 13,000FT■!S FOR THE OFFI? AND THEN WE SAY, NO MORE, RIGHT? WE'RE LOOKING FOR A DIVERSITY IN THE MIX. YEAH. AND EXCEPTIONS. WANT TO BE IN A SMALL BOX. SO I THINK WE'D HAVE TO THINK OF HOW WE DRAFT THAT WHEN WE SUBMIT IT. YEAH. THINK ABOUT LIKE HOW TO, YOU KNOW, MAYBE HAVE SOME BIG NAMES IN THERE BUT ALLOW FOR THE DIVERSITY, JUST LIKE YOU SAID, OF RETAIL SPACE AND COMMERCIAL SPACE. I THINK THAT TO ME FEELS IMPORTANT TO THIS PLAN. YEAH DEFINITELY. HEY JUSTIN, I ASSUME AND I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT IT, A SCHOOL IMPACT STUDY, CAN YOU GIVE US THE APPROXIMATE NUMBERS OF STUDENTS? YEAH. SO ACTUALLY, I WAS MENTIONING I SPENT MY WEEKEND REMODELING. I ACTUALLY WENT THROUGH THE WHOLE, DISTRICT'S MASTER PLAN, ANALYZED HOW MUCH THEY PROJECTED FOR THE SITE, REUSED ALL THEIR RATIOS, AND REMODELED ALL PARKING. I CAN'T OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. I WANT TO SAY, THE DISTRICT, PLANNED FOR 65 TO 67 STUDENTS COMING OUT OF THIS SITE, BASED ON THE CURRENT MODELING, WITH ALL OF THEIR DATA AND ALL THEIR IT COMES OUT TO 54, 55, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO WE ARE, IN THE MODELING, WE ARE UNDER WHAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT INCLUDED IN THEIR MASTER PLAN. THANK YOU. AND JUST AS A GENERAL SUGGESTION THAT ONCE EVERYTHING GETS TOLERABLY WELL BAKED IS THAT PLEASE WORK IT WITH STAFF, YOU'LL WANT TO HAVE MINIMAL NUMBER OF CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL BECAUSE THE PEOPLE WHO WHO WOULD LOOK FOR ANY REASON WHATSOEVER THEY COULD TO SAY NO. SO WE'LL BE LOOKING FOR THOSE. THE ORIGINAL GOAL WAS ZERO. AND, AND AS AGAIN AS WE WERE GOING THROUGH AND SAID, OKAY, I THINK WE GOT TO ZERO, THEN IT WAS THESE SPECIFIC ONES POPPED UP, BUT I THINK IT WAS WHEN YOU SEE ARCHITECT, HE SAID, WELL, THESE ALL SEEM LIKE LOGICAL REQUESTS. THERE WASN'T SOMETHING THAT WAS AN OUTLIER. THAT WAS US TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, GET SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, PULL A FAST ONE. IT WAS ALL STUFF THAT SHOULD MAKE THE PROJECT MORE CONSISTENT WITH THE GOAL OF THE HAMLET ENVIRONMENT.OKAY, OKAY, I GOT MORE QUESTION. I HAD TWO MORE. SO AND THESE ARE HOPEFULLY JUST TO GET IT SMOOTHER WHEN YOU COME IN FORMALLY, JUST POINTS OF CLARIFICATION. IN THE COMMERCIAL, THERE'S A 1 BILLION SHOWS A DRIVE THROUGH AND I KNOW THAT THEY'RE ALLOWED IN CERTAIN USES. I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU HAD A CERTAIN TENANT IN MIND OR IF BECAUSE IS IT'S LIMITED TO. I THINK IT WAS BANKS, COFFEE SHOPS. AND IS IT A COFFEE PLACE? OKAY. COFFEE IS ALLOWED. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WASN'T GOING TO HIT. AND THEN IN SUBAREA TWO IT SAYS THE FLATS ARE LIMITED TO 20% OF THE TOTAL COUNT OF THE UNITS. AND IF YOU MENTIONED 40, WHICH SOUNDS LIKE IT MIGHT BE MORE THAN THE 20% WHEN WE. SO THERE'S A. SO THE INTENT IS THIS WILL THIS WILL BE PART OF SUBAREA ONE WHERE THE 40 FLATS ARE, ARE PART OF THAT. SO THAT WILL BE IN 71 INSTEAD OF SUBAREA TWO. SO THEY THE U SHAPE BUILDING CORRECT WOULD BE PART OF 7181. SO YOU'D BE. SO THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN THE PRELIMINARY PRELIMINARY. THERE WAS A TRANSITION ZONE THAT WAS HALF SUBAREA ONE AND HALF SUBAREA TWO. AND THEN 70 AND TWO. YES. SO THAT IS A MODIFICATION OF THE SUBAREA DELINEATION. ALL RIGHT. I'M GONNA HAVE TO THINK THROUGH THAT. YEAH. THAT IS IT'S CHANGING THE SUB AREA AND THE REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE WITHIN THAT SUB AREA. SO IN MY MIND THAT'S A CHANGE TO THE PRELIMINARY TWO THAT WAS APPROVED. BUT THE TEXT DOES ALLOW SUBAREA BOUNDARIES TO BE MODIFIED AT THE TIME OF FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN, SO THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT'S ALLOWED IN THE TEXT. OKAY. SO YOU'RE STILL MEETING THE OVERALL WITHIN THAT THERE. SO AND THE TEXT SPECIFICALLY SAYS THAT THE FLATS SHOULD BE EITHER FRONT ON TO PUBLIC SPACE AND THE SUGARLAND PARK OR TOWARDS THE CIVIC, THE CIVIC GREEN. SO THEY'RE MEETING THOSE IN, GUIDELINES AS WELL, BECAUSE I HAVE TO GO BACK AND READ IT. I THINK YOU'RE MEETING THE INTENT OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO. SO I'LL JUST IT'S JUST UP TO ME TO STUDY. OKAY. SO DID I HEAR YOU SAY THERE'S 40 FLATS? MEANS THERE'S 40 APARTMENTS. THAT WOULD BE AVAILABLE TO RENT UNDER THIS PLAN. OKAY. WITH THE CAVEAT THAT IF THERE WAS, SINCE WE BUILD EVERYTHING THE CONDO
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QUALITY, IF AT SOME POINT THE DECISION WAS MADE TO SELL THOSE AS CONDOS INSTEAD OF RENT, WE WOULD CONSIDER THAT. AND HOW MANY REMIND JUST REMIND US IF YOU WOULD. HOW MANY TOTAL UNITS ARE THERE? 195. ALL RIGHT. SO 41. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S 20%. YEAH 32.6 ACRES AT SIX, EIGHT AND TEN ACRES. OKAY. I GUESS MY ONLY CONCERN IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAD DISCUSSION AT SOME POINT THAT, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO MAKE THE COMMUNITY MORE ACCESSIBLE TO A BROADER GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO MAY WANT TO MOVE IN YOUNGER PROFESSIONALS AND THAT SORT OF THING. SO WITH 40 RENTAL UNITS, IT'S JUST IT'S NOT VERY MANY, BUT I GUESS IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE TEXT THAT WAS PASSED. YEAH, I THINK OUR OUR ORIGINAL SUBMISSION OBVIOUSLY HAD A MUCH HIGHER PERCENTAGE OF APARTMENTS, BUT THAT DID NOT. I GOT IT. WELL, DO YOU HAVE A SENSE OF WHAT THE PRICE POINTS ARE GOING TO BE, IN CONVERSATIONS? THESE TOWNHOMES WILL PROBABLY START IN THE 700 RANGE, THESE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, PROBABLY IN THE 850 AND UP. AND THESE ARE PROBABLY HITTING THE MILLION PLUS MARK SEEMS TO BE IT'S HARD TO KNOW. NO, I GET IT. THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S A GOOD SENSE. I JUST THAT'S WHAT I WANTED. ONE THING. THE BUILDERS. OH NO. YEAH I GOT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.YEAH. THANK YOU. QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC? IF SO, COME TO THE MIC AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ASK YOUR QUESTION. SO I JUST HAVE CONCERNS. NAME AND ADDRESS FIRST. OH, SORRY. I'M SO TALL, I JUST HAVE CONCERNS AROUND, ASKING MORE THAN THE 10,000 BECAUSE IT IT DOES SCARE ME A LITTLE BIT THAT WE START GETTING AWAY FROM WHAT WE WORKED SO HARD FOR IS TO KEEP THIS MORE OF A QUAINT COMMUNITY, AND WE DO HAVE A LOT OF COMMERCIAL OUT THERE THAT ISN'T RENTED TODAY, SO I'D FEEL A LITTLE WORRIED ABOUT, LIKE, WHAT ARE WE GIVING UP INSTEAD OF THAT? LIKE, IS IT, YOU KNOW, 1 OR 2 LESS CUTE LITTLE SHOPS, OR ARE WE MISSING MORE PARK SPACE, OR IS IT LESS PARKING LIKE SOMETHING HAS TO GIVE. IT HAS TO BE. IF YOU HAVE MORE SPACE, IT HAS TO GO UP OR OUT, RIGHT? SO I WOULD LOVE TO. I LIKE WHAT I SEE HERE FOR THE MOST PART, COMPARED TO WHAT WE HAD BEFORE. SO WE KIND OF START GETTING EXCITED ABOUT ALL OF THESE THINGS THAT ARE COMING CLOSE TO YOU, AND MORE COMMERCIAL SPACE DOESN'T GET ME EXCITED. SO THAT'S JUST MY COMMENT. NEIL, CAN YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND YOUR ADDRESS? WE GOT YOUR NAME. WE GOT YOUR ADDRESS, YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS. YEAH. 7267 NEW ALBANY LINKS DRIVE. THANK YOU. YEP GO AHEAD, IT'S. I JUST WANT TO CONFIRM IT'S NOT A ADDITIVE SQUARE FOOTAGE. IT'S A REDISTRIBUTION, AND I THINK I DON'T HAVE IT UP TO MY HEAD. I THINK WE ORIGINALLY HAD OVER 10,000FT■!S OF OFFICE IN THE PRELIMINARY PLAN, IT JUST WAS IN TWO BUILDINGS. AND NOW WE'RE SAYING IT MIGHT BE A SECOND FLOOR, AND SOME OF THAT OFFICE MIGHT AS OFFICE IS CHANGING. SOME OF THAT OFFICE MAY END UP ON THE FIRST FLOOR. NOW OKAY.
OTHERS. HI, MATT MCFADDEN, 7073 MAIN PLACE EAST, FIRST OF ALL, THIS HAS COME A LONG WAY. I THINK IN TWO YEARS. SO I DO WANT TO GIVE CREDIT WHERE CREDIT IS DUE. JUST A CLARIFICATION ON THE 44 FOOT ELEVATION. IF I'M DRIVING DOWN 605 RELATIVE TO 605, AM I SEEING 44FT, OR IS THAT JUST. THAT'S THE 36FT OKAY. BECAUSE THAT WAS I KNOW THAT WAS A HUGE CONCERN ABOUT THE DIFFERENCES. SO YOU'RE NOT SEEING THE GARAGE DOORS AT ALL. THEY'RE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BUILDING AND THEY'RE BELOW GRADE. THE CONCERN WAS WE DIDN'T WE DIDN'T WANT TO DRIVE DOWN 50 FOOT. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU, YEAH. SO THAT WOULD BE THE WAY IT'S MASKING LOOKING OUT. IT'LL BE 36 ON THE PERIMETER, AS YOU'RE DRIVING TO THE CIVIC CORE, WHERE, YOU KNOW, PER THE ZONING TEXTS, WERE ALLOWED 50FT, THE SITE ACTUALLY DROPS DOWN ABOUT 5 TO 7FT. SO ACTUALLY, AS IF SOME OF THOSE BUILDINGS ARE CLOSER TO 50 IN THE CIVIC CORE, WHERE IT'S ALLOWED, IT'LL ALL FEEL LIKE GENERALLY CONSISTENT HEIGHT.
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IT'S NOT LIKE SOMETHING'S GOING TO JUMP OUT AS, OBNOXIOUSLY TALL COMPARED TO ANYTHING ELSE. THANK YOU. OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENT? OKAY FINAL QUESTION COMMENTS FROM US OKAY. FROM ME. IT'S INFORMAL REVIEW. SO THERE'S NO VOTE ON THAT, ANYTHING ELSE FROM STAFF TO BE ADDED? GREAT.NOTHING ELSE FROM STAFF. WE'RE AT CALL MEMBERS FOR COMMENT. THIS JUST AN UPDATE. THE US 62 FOCUS AREA. SO WE HAD A SECOND MEETING. IT'S GONE REALLY WELL. WE GOT GOOD ATTENDANCE GOING ON IN IT, PART OF THE HOMEWORK WAS TO GO AND LOOK AT FIVE OTHER DEVELOPMENTS IN THE AREA, SO WE LOOKED AT EVAN FARMS, WE LOOKED AT OLD TOWN, ARLINGTON, UPPER ARLINGTON, TREMONT, GRANDVIEW PARK. YEAH, YEAH. AND, THE ONE OUT IN DUBLIN, I FORGET WHAT IT'S CALLED. BRIDGE PARK. AND SO WE LOOKED AT THAT. WE HAD GOOD DISCUSSION ABOUT THE PROS AND CONS OF ALL THAT. AND SO JUST MAKING GOOD PROGRESS. OUR NEXT MEETING IS SEPTEMBER 9TH. AND I THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE AN OPEN HOUSE AT SOME POINT AGAIN. IS THAT RIGHT? YES. WE WILL HAVE THE NEXT PUBLIC COMPONENT OF IT WILL BE LIKE A SOCIAL PINPOINT AND INTERACTIVE SURVEY. BUT IF YOU'VE EVER DONE A, A SOCIAL PINPOINT EXERCISE, YOU PROBABLY HAVE. IT'LL BE AN INTERACTIVE WAY FOR FOLKS TO MAKE ADDITIONAL COMMENTS ABOUT THE AREA. SO THAT'LL BE EARLY IN SEPTEMBER, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE A FULL BLOWN BIG PUBLIC WORKSHOP LATE FALL TO ROUND OUT THE PLAN. SO OKAY, SO THE WORKS FOR SOME PRETTY WELL JUST MORE UPDATES WILL COME. THANK YOU. NO I'M SORRY. THANK YOU. I HAVE NO COMMENT FIRST.
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ALL RIGHT. SORRY NO COMMENT. BUT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT MAYBE GETTING TOGETHER AND GOING TO LOOK AT THE AREA BEHIND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. THAT'S TRUE. THAT'S A GOOD POINT. I DON'T THINK IT WAS THERE FOR THAT MEETING, BUT, I THINK TO AVOID ANY ISSUES WITH OPEN MEETINGS, CONCERNS AND MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE NOT TO GET TOGETHER COLLECTIVELY AND GO LOOK AT THAT, BUT CONSULT WITH STAFF ABOUT THE BEST WAY TO GO TO GO TO THE SITE. OKAY THANK YOU SIR. NOTHING* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.