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YEAH. WE CAN HEAR YOU. I KNOW YOU CAN HEAR ME. I HEAR YOU IN MY DREAMS. EXCUSE ME. STAFF,
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WOULD YOU PLEASE TAKE ROLL CALL? MR. SCHUMACHER? PRESENT. MR. BARNES. HERE. MISS GALLO. HERE.MISS KELLERMAN. AND THERE WE GO, COUNCIL MEMBER KIST. MR. CONWAY. MISS SCOTT AND MR. TROUT ARE
[III. Action of Minutes: July 17, 2024]
ABSENT, BUT WE DO HAVE A QUORUM. GREAT. THANK YOU, OUR FIRST ACTION IS ACTION OF APPROVING MINUTES OF JULY 17TH SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD MEETING. DO ANY BOARD MEMBERS HAVE CORRECTIONS TO THE MINUTES? SEEING NONE, COULD I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE JULY 17TH, 2020 FOR MEETING MINUTES? SECOND. OR DID I HAVE TO MOVE? YOU HAD TO MOVE. BUT I MOVE THAT WE APPROVED. I'LL SECOND IT. MISS GALLO. YES. MR. SCHUMACHER. YES. MR. BARNES? YES. MISS[IV. Additions or Corrections to Agenda]
KELLERMAN. YES. MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU, ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS TO THE AGENDA FROM STAFF? I'D LIKE TO ADD A MID-YEAR QUICK MID-YEAR BUDGET REVIEW TO OTHER BUSINESS.GREAT ALL RIGHT. NEXT ITEM IS HEARING OF VISITORS FOR ITEMS NOT ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA. AND
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SEEING NO SUCH VISITORS. I'LL MOVE ON, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE, THE SECTION OF BUSINESS UP AHEAD OF THE FOOD WASTE COMPOST WORKING GROUP SO WE CAN GET RIGHT TO OUR VISITORS, WHO ARE LOVINGLY KNOWN AS THE NEW WELLS, I'M GOING TO GIVE IT OVER TO STAFF, THOUGH, TO KICK IT OFF.OKAY. I'M GOING TO, EXIT OUT OF THE STAFF PRESENTATION AND GO AHEAD AND PULL UP THEIR PRESENTATION. AND IF YOU RECALL, THE NOEL'S AS WE LIKE TO REFER TO THEM AS, WE'RE HERE BEFORE YOU, A FEW MONTHS AGO TO INTRODUCE THEIR PROJECT AND TONIGHT THEY ARE HERE TO GIVE THEIR FINAL PRESENTATION ON THEIR PROJECT TO ALL OF YOU. SO I'LL JUST TURN IT OVER TO THEM AND I'LL GIVE YOU THE POINTER AS WELL. OKAY. WE HAVE SOME GIFTS TO GIVE OUT.
SO YOU CHIP IN HERE. I TOLD HER I'D LET YOU. STAFF. THAT IS SO GREAT. HEY. WOW. THAT'S AMAZING.
THANK YOU. THAT'S BEAUTIFUL. YEAH WOW. THANK YOU. OH. THANK YOU GUYS. THANK YOU.
OKAY OKAY. HI, I'M NOEL GORMAN, THIS IS NOEL GRIFFITH. SO FIRST OF ALL, WE'D LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR GENEROUS GRANT TO HELP US WITH OUR COMPOSTING. SO OUR PROJECT ORIGINALLY WAS TO TRY TO MAKE PEOPLE AWARE OF COMPOSTING AND ALSO HELP THEM GET BUCKETS AND GET STARTED ON THEIR PROJECTS. SO WE WENT AROUND TO THIRD GRADE CLASSROOMS TO TEACH THEM ALL ABOUT THE COMPOSTING PROGRAM. SO WE WENT TO FIVE CLASSROOMS AND THEN IN THE ALL FIVE CLASSROOMS, WE READ THEM A BOOK TO EDUCATE THEM. HIS BOOKS. WE PLANTED FLOWERS WITH THEM AND THEN WE ALSO HAD COMICAL SACKS WITH COMPOSTABLE SPOONS AND CUPS. SO WE ENDED UP MAKING 25 POTS OF FLOWERS TO OUR NURSING HOME IN NEW ALBANY, OHIO. AND THEN WE ALSO IN ALL FIVE MATCHES, WE KNOW WE HAD AT LEAST THREE KIDS AND THEIR FAMILIES SIGNED UP FOR THE SCHEME, AND ALL FIVE JUDGES SIGNED UP FOR COMPOSTING IN THEIR CLASSROOMS. AS WELL AS THE CLASSROOMS THAT THE CLASSROOMS THAT WE TAUGHT,
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WE ALSO WENT TO THE NEW ALBANY LIBRARY AND TAUGHT A STORYTIME ABOUT COMPOSTING. SO SIMILAR, LESSON PLAN. WE JUST DID A VIDEO, A BOOK, AND MAKING FLOWERS FOR THEM TO TAKE HOME.AND THEN WE HAD ACCOMPLISHED STAFF TO SHOW THEM HOW TO COMPOST, SO THAT WE COULD REALLY INTRIGUED THEM, AND AT THAT EVENT, WE WERE VERY THANKFUL TO HAVE A, THE NEW ALBANY AND CITY AND HAVE A VIDEO OF US. SO WE HAD A LITTLE INTERVIEW AFTERWARDS AND THERE'S A LOT THERE THAT WE COULD SEND TO YOU, BUT IT'S LIKE A BIG DEAL. AND THEN WE ALSO, WERE ABLE TO HAVE A FULL PAGE ARTICLE IN THE HEALTHY IN ALBANY MAGAZINE ON OUR PROJECT, YEAH, SURE. IF YOU WANT.
TO NOT AS MANY PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT COMPOSTING. SO WE WERE LIKE, WHY DON'T WE TEACH THEM ABOUT IT? NEW ALBANY MAKES IT REALLY EASY. LIKE SUPER EASY, LIKE COMPOST.
AND THEN TAKE IT TO A DROP OFF LOCATION. I DON'T THINK WE COULD HAVE DONE IT AS MUCH WITHOUT THEM. WE COULDN'T HAVE BOUGHT THE BUCKETS OR THE LIDS OR THE SNACKS FOR THE KIDS. IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A LOT HARDER WITHOUT THEIR HELP, SO WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT. KEEP TRYING TO DO THIS, KEEP TRYING TO INFLUENCE IT INTO THE WORLD. TRY TO MAKE A DIFFERENT CHANGE AND LASTING IMPACT. YEAH NOT TRYING TO JUST BE A ONE WEEK THING. WE HAVE THREE MORE FARMER'S MARKETS WE'RE GOING TO THE JUNE 4TH FARMER'S MARKETS, AND WE WILL BE THERE SIGNING PEOPLE UP. AND WE'RE HOPING TO SIGN UP, MAYBE LIKE 15 AT EACH GO GREEN. SO THAT'S WHAT I'M GOING TO GO.
COULDN'T DO THAT WITHOUT YOU. SO I'LL. OKAY. SO IN THE WINTER FARMER'S MARKETS, WE WERE, WASN'T. STANDING UP. YEAH. SO WE JUST STARTED SENDING PEOPLE UP AND HANDING OUT BUCKETS AT THAT ONE. SO WE DELIVERED THE BUCKETS TO OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AROUND NEW ALBANY, BECAUSE AT FIRST WINTER FARMER'S MARKET, WE DIDN'T HAVE THOSE BUCKETS. SO WE CAN DO THAT. AND THEN IN THE SUMMER FARMER'S MARKET, WE GAVE AWAY COMPOSTABLE SNACKS TO ATTRACT PEOPLE EACH WEEK. SO THE FIRST WEEK WE HAD GOLDFISH AND WE. SHAVED ICE FOR SEVERAL WEEKS WITH COMFORTABLE SPOONS AND ICE CREAM. WENT TO THE FOREST FOR COMFORT FOODS. AND THEN WE SEND OUT 38 MORE HOUSEHOLDS AT THE SUMMER AND WINTER FARMERS MARKET, WHICH WAS TOO BAD, SO WE AS WELL AS JUST SIGNING PEOPLE UP FOR COMPOSTING, IT WAS ALSO A LOT OF JUST EDUCATING PEOPLE ABOUT IT. AND MANY PEOPLE WHO HAD ALREADY STARTED COMPOSTING, THEY KNEW MORE BECAUSE OF OUR BOOTH AND EVEN PEOPLE WHO DIDN'T COMPOST AND AREN'T GOING TO SIGN UP RIGHT NOW. NOW THEY KNOW, LIKE, WHAT IT IS AND THEY MIGHT BE MORE LIKELY NEXT TIME TO SIGN UP. SO EDUCATION WAS A BIG PART OF IT, BUT WE DID END UP SIGNING UP 81 HOUSEHOLDS AT THE FARMER'S MARKETS AND FIVE FARMERS MARKETS THAT WE DID. AND, IN ADDITION,
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LIKE THE CLASSROOMS AND THE LIBRARY STORY TIME, WE SIGNED UP ANOTHER 20, 27 MORE HOUSEHOLDS, WHICH IN TOTAL IS 108 NEW HOUSEHOLDS. AND THAT GREATLY EXCEEDED OUR GOAL, WHICH WAS 30, AND OUR STRETCH GOAL, WHICH WAS 100. SO WE WE'RE, GLAD THAT WE COULD HAVE THAT IMPACT, WITH THE HELP OF EVERYBODY HERE AND THE THIRD GRADERS, WE, GAVE THEM A PRETEST AND POST TEST. THEY LEARNED A LOT ABOUT HOW, LIKE, DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE, YOU KNOW, TOWELS, LINT AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE COMPOSTABLE, AND THE TEACHERS ARE FINDING THEM THAT WE WERE IN PERSON TO SIGN UP FOR COMPOSTING AND SNAP. AND ONE OF THE RESIDENTS THAT WORKS AT WESTERN SCHOOLS DECIDED TO SIGN UP FOR SNAP AT HER CLASSROOM. SO IT'S SPREADING ACROSS LIKE NOT JUST NEW ORLEANS, BUT EVERYWHER, AND I THINK JUST JUST AS I SAID, THE AWARENESS OF IT IS A HUGE PART OF MY PROJECT. JUST GETTING PEOPLE TO KNOW THE WORD AND KNOW THAT PEOPLE CARE ABOUT IT IS A BIG PART. SO SO THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU'VE DONE. AND, AND WE COULDN'T HAVE DONE THIS WITHOUT YOU. AND WE ARE HAPPY TO SAY THAT WE ACHIEVED OUR SILVER AWARD, JUST ABOUT A WEEK AGO. AND WE ARE VERY GRATEFUL AND WE HOPE TO BE ABLE TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT. OF COURSE, COMING UP HERE NEXT WEEK. GREAT. YEAH DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. I HAVE A COMMENT, WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THIS LAST YEAR AND STARTING THIS, WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT, WE ARE THRILLED THAT YOU GUYS DID THIS. AND AN AWESOME FIRST AWARD RECIPIENT. WE CAN ONLY HOPE THAT WE HAVE MORE LIKE YOU GUYS. YOU DID AWESOME. THANK YOU. I AGREE WITH THAT. YEAH, IT'S BEEN REALLY FUN TO SEE ALL THE DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS YOU'VE TAKEN IT, YOU KNOW, I'VE ALREADY HAD SOME OF THE THIRD GRADE TEACHERS YOU WORKED WITH ARE ASKING YOU, OH, CAN WE DO THAT AGAIN THIS YEAR? YOU KNOW, THEY WANT TO KEEP IT GOING WITH THEIR KIDS, AND I WAS JUST MEETING WITH A COUPLE OF GIRL SCOUTS WHO ARE WORKING ON THEIR SEVENTH GRADERS ARE WORKING ON THEIR, SILVER AWARD. THIS YEAR. AND I WAS KIND OF GIVING THEM SOME IDEAS, AND I KEPT FINDING MYSELF SAYING, WELL, THE NOEL'S DID THIS, AND THEN NOEL'S TRYING, AND SO I, I FELT LIKE IT WAS A GOOD MODEL. SO I WAS GIVING THEM SOME TIPS ON WHAT THEY COULD DO TO KEEP IT GOING. SO I DO WANT TO TELL YOU THAT I THINK YOU DID A GREAT JOB OF NOT JUST TALKING ABOUT IT. WE SIT UP HERE AND TALK ABOUT ALL THIS STUFF, BUT ACTUALLY GETTING OUT THERE AND SIGNING PEOPLE UP AND EDUCATING PEOPLE. SO SOME NICE WORK. YEAH, YEAH. IF YOU WANT TO GIVE THEM OUR EMAIL, WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO TALK TO THEM. OKAY. YEAH THAT'S GREAT. THANK YOU. YEAH I DID MENTION THAT THEY WOULD THAT YOU WOULD PROBABLY ANSWER QUESTIONS AND STUFF. THEY'RE INTERESTED IN THE TOPIC OF LITTER, BUT I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF OVERLAPS IN WHAT THEY COULD DO WITH THAT AND ALL THAT STUFF. SO YEAH. GREAT I'LL BE MONITORING THE FOURTH GRADE INCOMING STUDENTS INTO THE INTERMEDIATE BUILDING NEXT WEEK. SO I'M CURIOUS TO SEE HOW MUCH BETTER THIS CREW DOES THAN LAST YEAR. SURE. THAT WILL BE VERY INTERESTING. I SAID I'D KEEP ME HONEST ON THIS, BUT IF I'M CALCULATIONS ARE RIGHT, JUST TO GIVE YOU GUYS KIND OF A SCOPE OF WHAT YOU ACCOMPLISHED, WHICH I'M SURE YOU KNOW, YOU DID QUITE A BIT. BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS YOU'RE REPRESENTING ABOUT 20 TO 25% OF THE TOTAL SIGNUPS OF PEOPLE TO SIGN UP FOR COMPOSTING IN THE CITY. THAT'S HUGE. ONE OUT OF EVERY FOUR, LET'S CALL IT 4.3 HOUSEHOLDS, RIGHT? YOU GUYS DID SO ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD AND CITY COUNCIL. IT'S JUST PHENOMENAL, REALLY.THANK YOU. I MEAN, IT'S NOT DON'T THANK US. THANK YOU GUYS BECAUSE YOU'VE REALLY DONE AN AMAZING, AMAZING JOB. SOMETHING THAT THEY DIDN'T MENTION IS THEY HAVE OVER 55 CANDIDATES WHO ARE REALLY TRYING HARD TO GET COMPOSTING GOING. THEY'RE OVER 55. AND EVERY WEEK THEY COME BACK AND TALK TO US ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING TO PEOPLE WE PUT OUT THERE AND THEY'RE LIKE, THIS IS SOMETHING WE REALLY WANT TO DO AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO US. THAT'S COOL. THAT'S GREAT. A LOT OF A LOT OF THE SIGN UPS THAT WE HAD WERE LIKE, YEAH, 55 AND OLDER CATEGORY OR LIKE FAMILIES.
SO THAT WAS LIKE WHEN YOU WERE KIND OF ASKING PEOPLE AT THE FARMER'S MARKET, WE WERE KIND OF LIKE TARGETING THOSE PEOPLE, TO JUST TRY TO OPEN UP THE. FANTASTIC. WELL, I HOPE YOUR
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PASSION STAYS WITH YOU FOR A LIFETIME OF YOUR GREAT. THIS ONE DAY. COME BACK AND HAVE ONE OF YOU GUYS BE UP HERE, OR BOTH OF YOU UP HERE. COMING BACK TO THE COMMUNITY AND MAKE AN IMPACT AT A AT A HIGHER LEVEL. SO THANK YOU BOTH. AND FAMILIES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. HE GETS THANKED ALL THE TIME. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE YOU GO AND SIT IN FRONT OF THEIR DAIS. AND WE'LL TAKE A PICTURE OF YOU. IF THE BOARD IS AGREEABLE TO HAVING THEIR PICTURE TAKEN. I ALWAYS HAVE MY HAIR DONE, MY FLOWERS. YEAH. DO YOU WANT TO SCOOCH DOWN? YEAH EVERYBODY BRING YOUR FLOWERS.OH, WE'RE ALL COMING UP. OKAY OH, YEAH. I JUST GOT ONE. OH YEAH. THANK YOU. JUST A TAD. OH, SORRY. YOU. SAID ONE. ONE TWO. THREE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
THANK YOU. HAVE FUN AT SCHOOL NEXT WEEK. YEAH THEY'RE GOING TO BE BIG FRESHMEN, RIGHT? YEAH TAKING YOUR SEAT. IT'S A BIG DAY. YEAH. THAT'S SO FUNNY. THAT'S AWESOME. OH. THAT'S OKAY.
THAT'S OKAY. I PICKED UP ON IT. ALL RIGHT. SO WE'LL PICK UP WITH BUSINESS, AND I WILL TURN IT OVER TO STAFF TO WALK US THROUGH THE ITEMS. SURE. SO THIS IS PART TWO OF OUR NATIVE SUSTAINABLE LANDSCAPING DISCUSSION THAT WE STARTED LAST MONTH. AND THAT REVOLVED. THAT WAS A LOT OF EDUCATION AND INFORMATION. WE PRESENTED TO YOU AND MOST OF THAT WAS A PRESENTATION FROM MCCSC, WHICH IS THE CITY'S LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTURE CONSULTING FIRM, AND TALKED ABOUT THE MATT KELLOGG COVERED TWO MAIN AREAS, KIND OF WHAT ARE SOME CASE STUDIES OF PROJECTS THAT THEIR FIRM HAVE WORKED ON ACROSS THE COUNTRY, REALLY. AND THEN NUMBER TWO IS WHAT HOW HE THOUGHT CITIES COULD GET THE MOST BANG FOR THEIR BUCK RELATED TO SUSTAINABLE LANDSCAPING, AND SO THE FOLLOW UP, WE SENT ALL THAT INFORMATION OUT TO YOU, AND I THINK WE HAVE IT IF YOU NEED US TO PULL UP SOMETHING, BUT WE REALLY WANTED TO START HAVING A DISCUSSION TONIGHT ABOUT WHAT YOU LEARNED AND HOPEFULLY PREPARE OURSELVES FOR, PUTTING A PROJECT OR A PROGRAM IN THE BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR RELATED TO THIS TOPIC. SO WE BRAINSTORMED A FEW QUESTIONS THAT WE THOUGHT WE'D JUST START THROW OUT AND JUST HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT, AND THE FIRST ONE IS JUST, KIND OF TO DEBRIEF ON THAT PRESENTATION AND WHAT DID YOU LEARN OR WHAT STUCK OUT TO YOU FROM THAT PRESENTATION FROM MCCSC? AND WE COULD JUST HAVE A FREE I'LL JUMP. YEAH. I THINK THE BIGGEST THING THAT JUMPED OUT IS KIND OF A WOW FACTOR, I THINK THE PRESENTATION IN GENERAL WAS WAS GREAT, BUT THE WOW FACTOR WAS THE 23%. I'M QUOTING THAT RIGHT OF TREE CANOPY IN NEW ALBANY VERSUS THE STATE IS LOOKING TO BE OF WHAT, 40 TO 60 KIND OF THING. SO I YOU GO AROUND TOWN AND AGAIN TAKING OUT THE INDUSTRIAL PARKS AND KINDS OF THINGS. IT FEELS LIKE THERE'S A GREAT AMOUNT OF TREE COVERAGE, BUT IT IS PRETTY FASCINATING TO FIND OUT THAT IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE CASE. THAT REALLY SHOCKED ME. YEAH I FIGURED THAT NUMBER WOULD HAVE BEEN HIGHER. I THOUGHT IT WAS REALLY HELPFUL TO SEE THE CASE STUDIES AND WHAT ARE OTHER COMMUNITIES DOING, AND IT'S INTERESTING, THE VARIETY OF PROJECTS THAT THEY'VE WORKED ON AND THE DIFFERENT APPROACHES TO IT. AND I LIKED HOW HE REALLY GOT INTO THE NUTS AND BOLTS OF LIKE, HOW DO YOU ACTUALLY MAKE IT WORK WITH A CITY STAFF WHO IS USED TO DOING IT ONE WAY? YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S EASY TO SAY, OH, WE WANT NATIVE PLANTS, BUT TO REALLY THINK ABOUT, OKAY, HOW ARE WE GOING TO MAKE THIS A PROJECT THAT IS GOING TO WORK WITH, YOU KNOW, THE STAFF THAT ARE WORKING ON THESE THINGS TO MAINTAIN IT, LIKE, NOT JUST FOR ONE YEAR, BUT THREE YEARS, FIVE YEARS, AND THEN HOW DO YOU PICK A PROJECT THAT FITS WITH, YOU KNOW, KIND OF THE ESTHETIC OF NEW ALBANY, WHICH I THOUGHT WAS ONE OF HIS STRENGTHS. IT SEEMS LIKE THEY REALLY FOCUS ON THAT, NOT JUST NECESSARILY, OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO PICK THESE PLANTS BECAUSE
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THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY BRING THE MOST POLLINATORS OR, THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, NATIVE TO OHIO. BUT LIKE PICKING A VARIETY OF PLANTS THAT WILL BE, YOU KNOW, LOOKING NICE AT DIFFERENT SEASONS OF THE YEAR AND THAT DON'T GET OUT OF HAND OR THAT DON'T GET TOO TALL OR, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO PICK A PROJECT THAT WHEN PEOPLE DRIVE BY IT, THEY THINK, WOW, THAT LOOKS REALLY NICE. AND THEN THEY REALIZE, OH, IT'S, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE NATIVE PLANTS. AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I COULD DO. YOU KNOW, IN MY YARD. I THINK THAT'S THE ULTIMATE GOAL IS TO TRY TO HOPEFULLY INFLUENCE PEOPLE TO TRY THAT. SO I THOUGHT THAT WAS IMPRESSIVE. I YOU KNOW, IT WAS INTERESTING. LIKE HE MENTIONED OHIO STATE, I THINK IT WAS WHERE ONE OF THEIR GOALS IS JUST TO MOW LESS, YOU KNOW, AND SO THEY WERE JUST LETTING THE GRASS GROW UP. AND I WAS HAVING TROUBLE PICTURING THAT APPROACH IN NEW ALBANY JUST BECAUSE IT SEEMED, MAYBE THAT THAT WOULDN'T FIT THE ESTHETIC QUITE AS WELL AS SOME OF THE OTHER PROJECTS, WHICH WERE A LITTLE MORE, MANICURED OR A LITTLE MORE, YOU KNOW, FOCUSED ON VISUAL, THE OTHER THING, THING I DIDN'T LIKE ABOUT THAT IDEA WAS IT DIDN'T SEEM LIKE IT WAS REALLY HITTING WHAT YOU WANT TO IF YOU ARE MOWING LESS, I GUESS YOU'RE USING LESS FUEL AND THOSE SORTS OF THINGS. BUT YOU'RE NOT REALLY ENCOURAGING A LOT OF PLANTS THAT ARE GOING TO ATTRACT POLLINATORS AND ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT YOU THINK ABOUT WITH NATIVE PLANTS IS BENEFITS. SO I THOUGHT IT WAS REALLY INTERESTING TO GET HIS PERSPECTIVE ON IT, ESPECIALLY HAVING EXPERIENCE WITH DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES AND LIKE REALLY WORKING WITH, YOU KNOW, HERE'S OUR ASSETS, HERE'S THE SPACE, YOU KNOW, HERE'S HOW WE CAN MAKE IT LOOK. AND GOING THROUGH DIFFERENT CHOICES AND THAT KIND OF STUFF. SO YEAH, THAT WAS REALLY INFORMATIVE. YEAH, I WOULD SAY IT STRUCK ME. AND BECAUSE I WAS THINKING ABOUT IT MAYBE TOO MUCH, WHICH I SOMETIMES DO, BUT I ACTUALLY FELT LIKE THERE WAS A BIG GAP, LITERALLY. AND BECAUSE THERE WAS A CONVERSATION ABOUT TREES AND CANOPIES AND THEN IT WAS ABOUT THE GRASSES AND NO MOWING. I FELT LIKE IT WAS KIND OF LACKING IN HAVING THAT IN BETWEEN. YEAH.THOSE IN-BETWEEN ITEMS, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT I PERSONALLY LIKE. THAT'S WHAT I KEEP PUSHIN.
WHEN I'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH COUNCILMEN AND OTHER PEOPLE IS, YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE LOW GROWTH SUMAC AND THAT KIND OF STUFF. SO HAVING THOSE THINGS THAT ARE SHRUBS THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, 3 TO 4FT, NOT FROM A TREE TO GRASS, THAT'S ABOUT THE EXTENT OF IT. SO I WAS A LITTLE I WAS HOPING TO GET A LITTLE BIT MORE AND MORE, BUT IT LOOKED LIKE IN SOME OF THE SCHEMATICS THAT HE SHOWED THERE, THERE WERE USES OF THOSE KINDS OF THINGS, AND IT JUST WASN'T PART OF THE PRESENTATION.
I THINK THAT GAP IS A PLACE WE'VE STRUGGLED, BUT IN THE ROSE RUN CORRIDOR. SO THERE WAS A, YOU KNOW, A DELIBERATE DESIGN DECISION TO KEEP AROUND THE STREETS, THE EDGES FORMAL, BECAUSE OF THE STREETSCAPE. AND THEN THE, THE LIBRARY GARDEN. BUT THEN THERE'S A, THERE'S A LINE WHERE THEN IT'S I, I WOULD SAY NATIVE, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT THERE COULD BE INVASIVE SPECIES IN THERE BECAUSE WE DIDN'T DO AS MATT DESCRIBED, LIKE A FULL SCALE, CLEAN EVERYTHING OUT AND RESEED. SO WHATEVER WAS THERE BEFORE IS STILL THERE. AND WE LIKE WE DISCUSSED THAT FROM TIME TO TIME, LIKE, WHAT SHOULD WE BE DOING THAT DO YOU WE REMOVED ALL THE HONEYSUCKLE, ALL THE GREAT VINE, ALL THOSE THINGS, PAIRS THAT WE KNEW WERE INVASIVE, BUT FROM A GROUNDCOVER OR SHRUB UNDERSTORY STANDPOINT. WE HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING THERE YET.
YEAH. BECAUSE WELL IT WAS FUNNY. I AFTER CHELSEA HAD PRESENTED THE, THE, THE BUSINESS PARK, THE PLAN FOR THAT, I WENT BACK AND BELIEVE IT OR NOT, I READ SOME, I READ THROUGH THERE AND IT IS INTERESTING BECAUSE IT WAS VERY DEFINITIVELY USE OF TREES, EVEN IN HEDGEROWS. IT WAS TREES AND PLANTINGS, BUT IT MENTIONED SHRUBS. BUT EVERYTHING IS PORTRAYED AS BEING TREES OR GRASS AREAS AND I'M LIKE, THERE'S A WHOLE IN BETWEEN THAT COULD BE USED FOR HEIGHT VARIATION AND GIVING YOU THAT DEPTH. AND THAT'S WHAT YOU SEE GENERALLY ALONG THE FREEWAYS THAT HAVE BEEN PLANTED FOR THAT KIND OF THING, WHERE THERE'S PINES AND REDBUD AND, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT THINGS THAT ARE MIXED IN, AGAIN, I DON'T THINK THAT THOSE WERE BEING OMITTED BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T PART OF IT. IT WAS JUST, I THINK, FOR US TO THINK ABOUT WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE IN OUR COMMUNITY. I AGREE WITH YOU, NOT MOWING GRASS IS NOT GOING TO PROBABLY GO OVER VERY WELL, BUT SOMETHING THAT'S A CONSIDERED, REPLACEMENT THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE. YEAH. SO I, I DON'T LIVE FAR FROM OHIO STATE, AND THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THOSE PLACES HE SHOWED THAT I DRIVE BY CONSISTENTLY AND IT'S BEEN INTERESTING TO SEE THE GRASSES GROW AND THEY RECENTLY MOWED THEM. BUT SOME LIKE THAT NEW FARMINGTON AREA, THAT'S ALL NEW DEVELOPMENT, NEW BUILDINGS AND THERE'S NEW MOUNDS. BUT THEN THERE'S ALL THIS TALL GRASS, AND IT IS JUST KIND OF A DISCONNECT
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WITH THE NEW BUILDINGS AND MORE MANICURED SPACES. AND THEN THERE'S JUST SOME ISLANDS OF TALL GRASS. IT'S I GUESS IT MAYBE IT'S JUST AN OPERATION, YOU KNOW, A BUDGET ITEM TO MOW LESS LIKE YOU'RE PLAYING THE LINKS. YEAH RIGHT. EXACTLY SO TAKING WHAT WE LEARNED OR WHAT STUCK OUT FOR YOU FROM THAT PRESENTATION, DO YOU. AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A BUDGET DISCUSSION AT OUR SEPTEMBER MEETING AS WELL. SO THIS REALLY IS PLANTING THE SEED. PUN INTENDED, BUT DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEAS OR PROGRAMS OR PROJECTS YOU MIGHT WANT TO PROPOSE IN NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET FOR THE CITY TO UNDERTAKE? YOU KNOW, A LITTLE LESS, I KNOW YOU DO. THAT'S WHY I'M JUST WAITING FOR YOU TO GO THROUGH THE LIST. AND THEN I CAN SAY I AGREE. I DON'T AGREE THAT HE'S GOT IT ALL WRITTEN DOWN ALREADY. I'LL JUMP IN. SURE. SO WHETHER IT'S. I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A NO MOWING CONVERSATION, BUT I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND WITH, THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT, THE IDEA OF TRYING TO REDUCE OUR LAWN AREAS IN GENERAL. SO PROBABLY NOT SO MUCH FROM A DEMO STANDPOINT, BUT MORE OF A REPLACEMENT STANDPOINT. I READ AND REREAD AND IN TALKING TO CHELSEA A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE CURRENT MOW AREAS ALONG THE STREETSCAPES, I DON'T I FEEL PASSIONATE THAT THERE'S SOMETHING TO BE DONE THERE THAT MAY NOT BE THE FIRST PLACE TO GO. I WOULD THINK THAT POTENTIALLY FOCUSING ON CITY PARKS, AREAS WHERE THERE ARE ALREADY AREAS THAT ARE KIND OF BEGGING FOR UNDERSTORY PLANTINGS OR SOME ADDITIONAL TREES, AND JUST REDUCING THE AREAS THAT ARE MOWED MIGHT BE A NICE PLACE TO START. OKAY. AND THEN ALONG IT KIND OF GOES HAND IN HAND THAT JUST CANOPY GROWTH IS LOOKING FOR OTHER AREAS WITHIN THE CITY OWNED LAND TO PLANT TREES. IT FEELS LIKE WE KIND OF DEFAULTED INTO PARK SPACE. THAT HAPPENS.BUT THERE ARE SO MANY OTHER PARKS AND WIDE OPEN SPOTS WHERE I KNOW WE WENT BACK THROUGH AND WE REDID THE PARKS IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS SPECIFICALLY AROUND WHERE I LIVE, THEY PROBABLY WENT IN BETWEEN SEVEN AND 15 TREES EACH AND KIND OF ADDED SOME AREAS. THERE'S STILL A LOT OF OPEN GREEN SPACE, AND I DON'T KNOW FROM A USE STANDPOINT IF THAT'S GETTING USED LIKE IT WAS EXPECTED TO BE USED, VERSUS WE'LL JUST GO PLANT SOME ADDITIONAL TREES AND LET THERE BE CANOPY KIND OF EXPOSURE. BUT I THINK, AS YOU KNOW, IN LINE WITH THAT AND SOMETHING THAT I HAD WORKED A LITTLE BIT WITH MARY LOU ABOUT WAS JUST LOOKING AT SOME NO TREAD AREAS. AND, YOU KNOW, I HATE TO KEEP USING MY NEIGHBORHOOD AS AN EXAMPLE, BUT IN LAMBTON PARK, THERE'S A BEAUTIFUL OLD STAND OF OLD GROWTH TREES AND KIND OF LIKE MY HAIRLINE, THERE'S INTERMITTENT GRASS THAT GROWS IN BETWEEN. AND, YOU KNOW, EVERY WEEK THEY'RE MOWING THROUGH THAT AND IN HEAVY MOWERS AND IT'S YOU KNOW, IT'S GRASS FOR NO REAL REASON. NOBODY'S WALKING. THAT DOG'S USED THE AREA MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE. AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE HAD TALKED ABOUT WHAT WHAT HOW THAT HOW COULD THAT BE TREATED. IT'S LIKE IMMEDIATELY DON'T MOW IT. AND THEN GO IN AND JUST LET IT KIND OF LIKE DIE BACK IN THE WINTER AND ADD MULCH. AND YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IT'S JUST PROMOTING WHAT I PRESENTED AS HOW YOU, HOW YOU HELP THE TREES DECOMPOSE INTO THE SOIL, ETC. IS THAT LIKE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE PLAYGROUND THERE WHERE THOSE TREES ARE? YEAH.
OKAY. YES AND I THINK I DON'T WANT TO BE MAKING A PLAN FOR IT, BUT YOU KNOW, EVEN AS YOU GO TOWARDS THE GOLF COURSE WHERE THERE'S A COUPLE OF THOSE AREAS WHERE THERE ARE LARGE PLANTINGS PLANTED, PLANTER AREAS THAT HAVE BEEN CARVED OUT. AGAIN, I GO BY THERE AND IT'S LIKE, I DON'T KNOW WHY. WE JUST DON'T CARVE OUT MORE OF THAT AND DO EXACTLY WHAT THEY'VE DONE IS ADD MULCH TO IT. OKAY. NO ONE'S PLAYING THERE. YEAH YEAH. I MEAN, THOSE ARE REALLY NICE TREES RIGHT BACK THERE, NEXT ON MY SCROLL OF LIST. THIS GETS BACK TO SOMETHING I SENT TO YOU EARLIER THIS WEEK. I'D LIKE TO BETTER UNDERSTAND THE WATERSHED MANAGEMENT IN TOWN, THE PRESENTATION TALKED ABOUT HEADWATERS SPECIFICALLY, AND SO THERE'S SOME VERY SPECIFIC CORRIDORS THAT I THINK HE POINTED OUT. BUT WHEN YOU COME BACK AND LOOK AT IT FROM A WATERSHED STANDPOINT, THERE ARE MANY MORE WATERWAYS THAT CUT THROUGH THE CITY. AND WHETHER THEY'RE STORMWATER, PRIMARILY STORMWATER, THEY ALL HAVE SOME SORT OF SOURCE THAT KEEPS THEM FLOWING. AND, AGAIN, MY NEIGHBORHOOD IN PARTICULAR, THERE'S ONE THAT CUTS THROUGH
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THE GOLF COURSE AND GOES THROUGH A NUMBER OF AREAS, AND IT LOOKS LIKE THERE HAVE BEEN IN THE PAST, NOTIFICATIONS OR NOTICES PUT THAT THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE NOT DEVELOPED. AND I THINK OVER THE COURSE OF TIME THOSE HAVE BEEN IGNORED OR, JUST IGNORED. AND THEN I CAME ACROSS THE FACT THAT THERE'S A STORMWATER MANAGEMENT PLAN FOR THE CITY, AND IT TALKS ABOUT A STORMWATER MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S HAPPENED, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S SOME GOOD GUTS AS I READ THROUGH THAT QUICKLY, THAT MAYBE WE COULD REENGAGE WITH ALSO AS PART OF THIS COMMITTEE AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S ABOUT THE IDEA OF REMOVING INVASIVE. SO AGAIN, SOMETHING THAT WE'RE ALREADY DOING, I THINK TALKING TO RESIDENTS ABOUT HAVING SOME SORT OF BUFFER ZONE THAT I BELIEVE IS A WATERSHED FOR THE FOR THE STATE, YOU NEED TO HAVE A SPECIFIC BUFFER AREA FROM THE BANKS. AND SO IT'S EDUCATING AND ENFORCING THOSE THINGS, AGAIN, IT'S NOT HAPPENING FROM US, BUT US PROMOTING IT, AND REALIZING THAT WE'D HAVE TO PROBABLY HAVE SOME CONNECTION WITH THE HOA. BUT WHEN I BROUGHT IT UP PREVIOUSLY TO THE HOA, THEY'RE LIKE, WELL, THAT'S THE CITY WATERWAYS. I'M LIKE, ALL RIGHT, WELL, THAT SEEMS TO ME TO BE ALL BACK IN OUR COURT. YEAH. AND THERE IS IT'S. SO THERE ARE SUBDIVISION REQUIREMENTS IN DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS IN THE ZONING CODE THAT REQUIRES TREATMENT CORRIDOR PROTECTION ZONES. AND THEN AS PROJECTS. SO SAY A SUBDIVISION IS BUILT AND THERE'S A STREAM GOING THROUGH THERE, SO THERE'S A MEASUREMENT THAT NEEDS TO BE PRESERVED AS A STREAM OF PROTECTION ZONE. THEN SOMETIMES ON TOP OF THAT, IF THERE ARE LIKE FEDERAL REQUIREMENTS RELATED TO, WETLANDS, SOMETIMES THERE ARE WETLANDS ADJACENT TO STREAMS. WE DO HAVE A FLOODPLAIN ORDINANCE.SO THE FLOODPLAIN ITSELF AND THE FLOODWAY CAN'T BE DEVELOPED. AND THEN USUALLY THOSE ARE SET ASIDE IN A PLAT. SO THE DOCUMENT THAT GOES THROUGH THE PROCESS THAT ACTUALLY SUBDIVIDES THE LAND WILL SAY, WHAT CAN AND CAN'T BE DONE IN CERTAIN AREAS. SOME AREAS OF THE COUNTRY CLUB, PARTICULARLY PREDATE SOME OF THOSE STANDARDS. SO IT'S A BIT OF A HODGEPODGE. YOU REALLY HAVE TO GO LIKE PLAT BY PLAT TO LOOK AT EACH AREA. PEOPLE, IF THEY DO HAVE A CONSERVATION ZONE IN THEIR BACKYARD, THERE ARE PLAT NOTES ABOUT. ALL YOU CAN DO ESSENTIALLY IS REMOVE INVASIVE SPECIES. YOU CAN'T GRADE, YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING LIKE THAT, AND THEN WE DO REQUIRE THEM TO PUT UP THOSE MARKERS THAT YOU SENT ME, THAT PICTURE OF, THE ONE THAT REMAINS. RIGHT, MAYBE THERE'S ONE BY FENIMORE OR FENWAY. MAYBE I HAVE SEEN THOSE IN IN PEOPLE'S GARAGES BECAUSE THEY'VE TAKEN THEM OUT OVER THE YEARS, SO THEY'RE PROBABLY FROM A MAYBE AN EDUCATIONAL CAMPAIGN OR PROMOTION STANDPOINT ABOUT LIKE, LET'S STAY OUT OF THE STREAM CORRIDOR PROTECTION ZONES. YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE COULD CRAFT A PROJECT AROUND THAT. GIRLS WHO COULD SAY NO TO YOU.
THANKS COOL PROJECT. SO WHAT WOULD BE THE ENFORCEMENT TOOL IF I'M A HOMEOWNER AND THERE'S A STREAM RUNNING THROUGH MY YARD IN NEW ALBANY, AND IT'S THE TERM THAT I'M NOT FOLLOWING THE RULES AS FAR AS THAT GOES, IT'S DIFFICULT. AND I WOULD SAY IT, THEY OVER THE YEARS, WE'VE SEEN THEM COME IN A NUMBER OF WAYS. SO SOMETIMES IT'S A NEIGHBOR NOTICES SOMETHING AND WE'LL CALL THE ZONING OFFICER SOMETIMES, AN OWNER. AND IT COULD BE LIKE A SUBSEQUENT OWNER. SO THE PERSON THAT DIDN'T BUILD THE HOUSE AND PROBABLY KNEW THE MOST ABOUT ALL THOSE RESTRICTIONS WILL COME IN TO BUILD A PULL A PERMIT TO BUILD A FIRE PIT NEXT TO THE STREAM OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, OR A PATIO AND THEN IT WILL COME TO LIGHT THAT WAY. THERE IS A VARIANCE POSSIBILITY THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN OFTEN IN THIS AREA, BUT THERE ALWAYS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET A VARIANCE FROM A ZONING CODE. I, I CAN'T MYSELF IN THE TIME I'VE BEEN HERE, REMEMBER ONE RELATED TO A STREAM, BUT SOMEONE COULD ASK, IF IT'S REALLY VISIBLE. YOU KNOW, WE MIGHT NOTICE IN THE ZONING OFFICER WOULD GO, LOOK, DO ALL THE RESEARCH AND THEN GO OUT AND SAY, HEY, YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE DOING THIS. BUT IT'S A LITTLE BIT CHALLENGING. IT'S NOT AS EASY AS YOU MIGHT THINK, AS MUCH AS I'D LIKE TO MAKE IT. YEAH NO, BUT I DO THINK EDUCATION CAMPAIGN IS A GOOD PLACE TO START, AT LEAST, LIKE, YOU KNOW, HERE'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO. AND HERE IS THE CURRENT STATUTES. AND HERE'S WHAT YOU SHOULD BE DOING. YEAH, I LIKE THE IDEA ABOUT KEEPING IT IN THE PARKS FOR NOW. NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS, I'M IN WINDSOR AND THEY ARE JUST
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GETTING READY TO START BUILDING THE NEW PLAYGROUND STRUCTURE THERE. TYING WITH EDUCATION, IF WE COULD PUT PLANTINGS AROUND THAT AREA, WITH THE SIGN WITH THE QR CODE, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BECAUSE IF PEOPLE SEE IT, THEY'RE GOING TO THINK, OH, THIS LOOKS NICE, AND MIGHT, YOU KNOW, CONSIDER DOING SOMETHING IN THEIR YARDS. NOT THAT WINDSOR HAS YARDS, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT, IF I SEE IT, I'M MORE LIKELY TO SAY, OKAY, I'M GOING TO PUT THAT IN MY YARD. I LIKE THIS FLOWER. I DIDN'T KNOW THIS WAS A NATIVE PLANT. I THOUGHT ALL NATIVE PLANTS WERE GRASSES.SO IF THERE'S ANY WAY WE COULD TIE THE TWO TOGETHER, BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF SPACE IN THAT WINDSOR MIDDLE AREA WHERE SOMETHING COULD GO IN THERE. OKAY AND THAT'S WHAT ANYBODY COMING INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD FROM EITHER DIRECTION HITS THAT MIDDLE PARK AREA. IF I COULD JUST ADD, I THINK THAT, THESE ARE ALL GREAT POINTS, WITHOUT A DOUBT, I THINK THAT PROBABLY WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN IS, IS, AS YOU MENTIONED, JUST SORT OF AN INFORMATIONAL, EDUCATIONAL KIND OF SESSION. AND I THINK IT REALLY SHOULD BE ABOUT ALL THE THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING, BECAUSE I, I KNOW IT'S, YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE'S IT'S CLEAR THE THINGS THAT WE SHOULD BE DOING.
AND I THINK WE ALL RECOGNIZE THAT AND AGREE. BUT THE THINGS THAT WE ARE DOING CURRENTLY, THERE'S A LOT. AND SO I JUST, I THINK IT'S PROBABLY, WOULD PROVIDE A LOT OF VALUE AND PERSPECTIVE TO THIS BOARD, TO JUST UNDERSTAND THOSE THINGS, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A LOT OF REQUIREMENTS AND COMMITMENTS AND OBLIGATIONS AND REPORTING THAT WE HAVE WITH THE OHIO EPA. WE ARE A SEPARATE MS4 COMMUNITY, WHICH STANDS FOR MUNICIPAL SEPARATE STORM AND SANITARY SEWER SYSTEMS. AND WE HAVE REQUIREMENTS THAT WE HAVE TO MEET, AND WE HAVE TO REPORT ON ANNUALLY IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN THAT. WE DO HAVE ENFORCEMENT ABILITIES. THE ENFORCEMENT REALLY HAPPENS AT THE, AT AT OUR LEVEL, THE JURISDICTION. BUT THE EXPECTATION IS THAT BY WAY OF THE STATE OF OHIO, THAT WE'RE ENFORCING THESE THINGS. SO THERE'S THINGS LIKE ILLICIT DISCHARGE. AND WE HAVE A LOT OF VERY ACTIVE PROGRAMING AND INSPECTION THAT'S RELATED TO THAT. ILLICIT DISCHARGES, ANYTHING FROM SOMEONE THAT MIGHT HAVE A SEPTIC TANK AT THEIR HOME. THERE'S REQUIREMENTS FOR THAT. AND IT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S CHEMICALS SPILLED IN THE ROAD OR THERE'S A THERE'S A MANUFACTURING COMPANY THAT'S DISCHARGING SOMETHING INTO THE SANITARY SEWER SYSTEM. SO THERE ARE LAYERS OF THINGS THAT I THINK YOU WOULD BE PRETTY, PRETTY PROUD TO KNOW ARE HAPPENING, SO I THINK JUST KIND OF GIVING A MORE COMPREHENSIVE PICTURE WOULD PROBABLY BE A GOOD, A LOT OF VALUE TO THE GROUP. SO I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN WORK TOWARDS. AND, YOU KNOW, BY NO MEANS WOULD I SUGGEST WE WEREN'T DOING THINGS, BUT I JUST I THINK IT'S, YOU KNOW, WHAT I'M FINDING IN MY TIME LIVING HERE IS THAT NO DIFFERENT THAN STANDARDS AT THE HOA? LIKE THINGS HAVE BEEN PUT IN PLACE AND THEN NEW PEOPLE HAVE COME IN AND DONE WHATEVER, AND OH, YOU'RE RIGHT, IT'S NOT.
I DON'T THINK PEOPLE ARE PUMPING SLUDGE INTO STORM WATER. OH NO RUNOFF. YEAH, IT'S MORE LIKE FERTILIZER. YEAH I DID. YOU'RE RIGHT. I MEAN, IT'S TRUE OF, YOU KNOW, A FEW THINGS AROUND HERE, RIGHT? SO YOU'RE YOU'RE YOU'RE CERTAINLY NOT WRONG. YEAH. YEAH. BUT AND SO I THINK IT'S MORE OF THAT FROM, FROM MY STANDPOINT IN TALKING ABOUT THIS BECAUSE IN THE PRESENTATION, THERE'S KIND OF A SEPARATION OF TYPICALLY YOU COULD DO AND WHAT RESIDENTS CAN DO. AND YEAH, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD KIND OF OVERLAPPING VENN DIAGRAM TYPE OF THING WHERE IT'S LIKE THERE ARE. TO YOUR POINT, I KNEW I ASSUME THAT THERE ARE THINGS IN PLACE AND JUST KIND OF LIKE I MEAN, IT'S NO DIFFERENT THAN, HEY, THERE'S SOMEBODY THAT'S LEAVING GRAVEL IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD. LIKE, YOU DON'T HAVE 20 PEOPLE DRIVING AROUND THE CITY LOOKING FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT DOING WHAT THEY SHOULD BE DOING. BUT, YOU KNOW, FOR OUR GROUP, IT'S LIKE, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT IT'S A PROGRAM WHERE THERE'S EDUCATION AND THEN THERE'S A FOLLOW UP AND THERE'S AN INSPECTION OR WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE IT'S A SIMILAR TO FRANKLIN SOIL AND WATER WHERE THERE'S A MONTH, IT'S STORMWATER AWARENESS, WHICH THEY DO AS WELL. RIGHT? I MEAN, THEY'RE ACTUALLY DOING INSPECTIONS. SO IT'S LIKE BUT I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT THOSE GUYS WELL, I SHOULDN'T SAY I KNOW FOR A FACT WHEN I HAVE SEEN THEM ON MY PROPERTY, THEY'RE NOT DOING A FULL WALKTHROUGH OF THE ENTIRE CORRIDOR. WELL, AND MAYBE WE COULD PIGGYBACK ON THAT WITH MORE EDUCATIONAL CAMPAIGN, WHETHER IT'S SOCIAL VIDEO, EVEN A POSTCARD. I MEAN, WE COULD DO A MAILING ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF STREAMS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. WELL, I, I, I'M A LITTLE RELUCTANT TO PITCH IT OF WHAT PUTS THIS, WHAT PUTS THE CITY IN THE POSITION OF. BUT IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, I KIND OF JOKING AN OFF SITUATION WHERE IT'S LIKE, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE DO
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THEIR OWN YARDS. YOU KNOW, SO IT'S A MATTER OF ENGAGING THE AREA OF YARD CARE FOLKS, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY PEOPLE THAT THE CITY ENGAGES WITH, THAT'S A HUGE PART. YOU KNOW, A HUGE IMPACT.BUT THERE ARE SO MANY OTHERS THAT COME IN AND DO THAT KIND OF THING. SO I'VE OFTEN MULLED AROUND IS THERE SOMETHING ABOUT GETTING A CERTIFICATION PROGRAM THAT THAT THESE PEOPLE HAVE TO SIGN UP FOR IN ORDER TO DO BUSINESS IN THE CITY LIMITS? IF YOU CATCH 80% OF THE PEOPLE, RIGHT? THAT'S A LOT MORE THAN WHAT WE'RE GETTING NOW. BUT, YOU KNOW, THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT THAT COMPANIES THAT COME IN AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S AT THE REQUEST OF THE RESIDENTS OR THEY'RE JUST DOING WHAT THEY'RE DOING, BUT, YOU KNOW, THE TREE VOLCANOES WITH THE MULCHES AND PEOPLE FERTILIZING THEIR LAWNS TO THE WATER LINE. YOU CAN SEE IT WEEKLY. YEAH. ALL RIGHT.
YEAH. SO TO ME, IT'S KIND OF TWO TOPICS, LIKE THE PROTECTION OF THE WATERWAYS, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN PARALLEL THAT WITH NATIVE PLANTS, BUT THE OTHER HALF OF IT IS JUST HAVING, YOU KNOW, LIKE, YOU CALL THEM POCKET PRAIRIES OR SMALL, NATIVE, YOU KNOW, GARDENS. AND I THINK HAVING A NUMBER OF FAIRLY SMALLER ONES. IF I HAD TO PICK, WOULD MAYBE BE BETTER THAN HAVING ONE BIG ONE IF THEY'RE ON DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE TOWN. I THINK PARKS IS A GREAT IDEA, JUST BECAUSE THAT'S A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE, WHEN THEY'RE THERE, THEY'RE SPENDING TIME. THEY'RE IN NATURE ALREADY, ESPECIALLY IF YOU HAVE EDUCATION PIECE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THAT'S SOMEWHERE WE CAN TRY TO GET SOME KIDS INVOLVED WITH, LIKE, DESIGNING A SIGN OR, YOU KNOW, HELPING TO COME UP WITH WHAT WOULD BE IN THE EDUCATION PIECE BECAUSE I DON'T THINK PEOPLE EVEN REALLY KNOW, LIKE, I THINK CHARLES SAID, IF THEY'RE LOOKING AT NATIVE FLOWERS OR NOT. YOU KNOW, I WAS GEEKING OUT. WE WERE AT THE, THE NEW PANCAKE HOUSE OVER BY TARGET, AND THERE'S JUST NATIVE FLOWERS ALL OVER THERE.
AND MY KIDS ARE LIKE, WHAT ARE YOU GETTING SO EXCITED ABOUT? THESE FLOWERS. THESE ARE NATIVE FLOWERS. SO ANYWAYS, IF THEY REALIZE THEY'RE NATIVE AND THEY'RE BEAUTIFUL AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK YOU CAN KILL TWO BIRDS WITH ONE STONE, I GUESS IS MY POINT. WELL, THAT'S SO OUR THIRD QUESTION. AND WE CAN KEEP BRAINSTORMING AND ANSWERING BOTH AT THE SAME TIME IS WITH THESE IDEAS. WHAT DO YOU WANT US TO WORK ON FOR NEXT MEETING THAT WILL HELP YOU GUYS PREPARE A BUDGET PROPOSAL AND SO ONE IDEA THAT JUST CAME TO MY MIND BASED ON THIS DISCUSSION IS MAYBE WE COULD GO BACK, IDENTIFY SOME OF THESE PARKS OR PUBLICLY OWNED SPACES WHERE I LIKE POCKET PRAIRIES. THAT'S CUTE, BUT MAYBE THERE'S DIFFERENT SCALES, BECAUSE WHAT YOU MIGHT DO AT WINDSOR WOULD BE SMALLER, BECAUSE MAYBE YOU'D WANT TO SHOW SOMETHING THAT SOMEONE WITH A YARD IN WINDSOR COULD DO. IF YOU'RE AT TAYLOR OR JAMES RIVER OR ONE OF THOSE BIGGER, YOU COULD DO A MORE LIKE A PRAIRIE LANDSCAPE, AND WE COULD MAYBE START THINKING ABOUT DIFFERENT SCALES OF THESE, LIKE FENWAY AND LAMBTON. YOU COULD DO YOU COULD DO SOMETHING WITH THE WATER, BODY OF WATER THAT'S THERE, THE HOLDING POND KIND OF THING. AND DO WHAT VERSION OF IT AS OPPOSED TO DOING THE PRAIRIE PIECE OF IT. SO THAT'S SOMETHING IF YOU THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL, WE COULD WORK ON BEFORE THE NEXT MEETING, IDENTIFYING POSSIBLE LOCATIONS. AND THEN IF THIS GETS COMES TOGETHER AS A PROJECT, THEN YOU GUYS COULD PICK OUT, LET'S TRY THIS HERE OR THAT HERE. AND THEN WE WOULD NEED, YOU KNOW, MAYBE STUDENTS OR SOME PARTNERSHIPS TO, TO THINK THROUGH WHAT THOSE PLANNINGS LOOK LIKE AND THEN WHAT THE EDUCATIONAL PIECE IS. YEAH, I DEFINITELY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S COORDINATION WITH THE PARKS. I GUESS I'M STILL NOT QUITE UNDERSTANDING HOW THAT WHO WHO'S MANAGING THAT AND HOW THAT HAPPENS. BUT YEAH, IT'S LIKE BECAUSE THERE'S BUDGET FOR THE PARKS. SO, THIS ALSO GETS INTO THAT THING OF, ARE WE GOING TO STEP ON TOES? SO IT'S INFLUENCING WHERE THINGS ARE GOING. AND IF THERE'S ADDITIONAL MONEY THAT WE CAN PROCURE TO DO PROJECTS, GREAT. BUT THAT'S GOING TO END UP BEING A NOW ONGOING. YEAH. ITEM FOR THE PARKS CREWS. AND I THINK WHOEVER THEY'RE WORKING WITH SO YOU KNOW GETS IN THAT TRAINING THING. I JUST I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WHEN WE'RE THINKING ABOUT IT THAT IT'S, IT'S MORE THAN JUST A PROJECT. IT'S THERE'S A KIND OF LONG TERM PROCESS THERE THAT'S HAPPENING. IT'S A CHANGE OF PROCESS. AND I THINK EVEN LAST MONTH AT THE END OF THAT PRESENTATION, YOU GUYS STARTED GOING IN THIS DIRECTION THINKING ABOUT TAYLOR FARM ALONG THE STREET THERE. AND IF SOMETHING COULD BE DONE THERE THAT EVEN IF IT'S MORE LIKE AN EXPERIMENT, LIKE HOW DO DOES THIS METHOD WORK BETTER THAN ANOTHER METHOD. RIGHT. AND TESTING THAT OVER TIME, YOU KNOW, JUST AN EXAMPLE THAT WE'VE IMPLEMENTED RECENTLY WHERE NOW THREE YEARS REALLY INTO, IT KIND OF STARTED AS LIKE A PILOT PROJECT, AND NOW IT'S TURNED INTO AN ANNUAL PROGRAM,
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AND IT'S OUR INVASIVE SPECIES MANAGEMENT PROGRAM. SO EVERY YEAR WE'RE IDENTIFYING NEW AREAS THAT NEED TO BE CLEARED. AND THEN THE SUBSEQUENT YEAR AND EVERY YEAR THEREAFTER, THEY'RE COMING IN AND THEY'RE TREATING THOSE AREAS TO ENSURE THAT THEY DON'T GET OVERGROWN WITH THE NON-NATIVES AGAIN. SO IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT IF YOU LOOK OVER THE PAST THREE YEARS AND YOU CAN SEE IF YOU COULD SEE THE MAGNITUDE OF WORK THAT'S BEEN COMPLETED IN THAT TIME, IT'S IMPRESSIVE. YEAH. SO I THINK IT'S JUST THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF A SNOWBALL EFFECT THAT JUST GET SOMETHING ROLLING AND THEN SEE HOW IT WHAT IT GROWS TO. WELL, THAT'S I GUESS THAT'S WHERE I WAS GOING WITH THE STREAM CONVERSATION IS, YOU KNOW, TO ME, IT'S LIKE A CONTINUE THAT PROGRAM THAT HAPPENS, RIGHT? MUCH OF THE HEAVY LIFTING HAS BEEN DONE. AND TO YOUR POINT, IT'S NOW IT'S GOING THROUGH AND IT'S RETREATMENT AND IT'S YOU KNOW, THERE IS SOME REGRET THAT HAPPENS. TRUST ME, I KNOW MY BE DOING THAT IN THE NEXT MONTH.BUT, YOU KNOW, IS IT TAKING SOME OF THOSE CREWS AND BEING ABLE TO DO YOU KNOW, I'M THINKING ABOUT THE AREA BETWEEN THE GOLF COURSE AND THAT STRETCHES WHERE THAT BRIDGE IS LIKE THERE ARE A COUPLE OF LARGE AREAS, MAYBE AN ACRE EACH, THAT WHERE THE STREAM RUNS THROUGH. AND THAT THING IS JUST CHOCK FULL OF INVASIVES. AND THAT'S PRIVATE PROPERTY. SO THERE'S SOME CONVERSATION ABOUT HOW THAT COULD HAPPEN OR NEEDS TO HAPPEN OR WHATEVER. YEAH, I THINK HAVING SOME, YOU KNOW, OPTIONS OR HERE'S SOME POTENTIAL PLACES, PROS AND CONS AND TALKING THAT OUT WOULD BE REALLY INTERESTING. I THINK IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE MORE EXAMPLES OF, YOU KNOW, THE RMC'S PRESENTATION HAD SOME, BUT LIKE CHARLES SAID, IT DIDN'T FEEL LIKE THERE WERE MAYBE AS MANY AS YOU WOULD LIKE.
AND THE TYPES OF THINGS THAT I GUESS I HAVE IN MIND, WHICH WOULD BE KIND OF A VARIED LANDSCAPE WITH MULTIPLE TYPES OF FLOWERS THAT ARE BLOOMING DIFFERENT TIMES OF THE YEAR, AND THAT WOULD FIT INTO LOOK REALLY NICE, BUT ALSO BE NATIVE AND ATTRACTING POLLINATORS, ALL THOSE THINGS. SO I DON'T KNOW HOW HARD THAT WOULD BE TO COLLECT A, YOU KNOW, GET A FEW EXAMPLES OF DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE ALREADY DONE THAT OR PLACES WHERE WE ARE ALREADY DOING THAT AND HOW WE CAN EXPAND THAT. OKAY THAT'S GREAT. THAT GIVES US SOMETHING TO DO. SOME RESEARCH ON AND BRING BACK TO THE BOARD. SO I GUESS TO RECAP IS IDENTIFYING PARK AREAS, I AGREE, I'D LIKE TO JUST MAYBE GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT EXISTS IN TERMS OF WATERWAY, WATERSHED PROTECTION. AND YOU KNOW, WHERE WHERE IS THERE, WHERE ARE THE TEETH TO WORK WITH SOMETHING IN TERMS OF ADDRESSING THAT? ABSOLUTELY YEAH. WE CAN WE CAN PULL THAT. AND THAT'S, THAT WILL BE WILL PRESENT BOTH. THERE ARE SOME WATERWAYS THAT, LIKE, ARE CITY OWNED OR HAVE BEEN TRANSFERRED TO THE CITY. AND WE CONTROL THERE'S A LOT THAT RUN THROUGH PEOPLE'S BACKYARDS THAT ARE PRIVATE PROPERTY. AND WE CAN'T GO IN AND DO ANYTHING. BUT THERE ARE REGULATIONS AND CODES AND WE CAN KIND OF OUTLINE ALL THOSE THINGS FOR YOU. YEAH WHEN WE SAY WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING THAT DOESN'T PRECLUDE YOU FROM INSPECTING, RIGHT. BECAUSE THERE'S IF THERE I MEAN, IT'S I DON'T WANT TO GET ALL POLICING ON ANYBODY, BUT IT'S LIKE, YEAH, THERE SHOULD BE NO REASON WHY YOU COULDN'T DO A, YOU KNOW, HERE'S A NOTICE THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE INSPECTING THIS WATERSHED AREA. AND IT INCLUDES YOUR HOME, AND WE'RE GOING TO BE WALKING THROUGH YOUR BACKYARD. IF THERE ARE REQUIREMENTS, BECAUSE, I MEAN, PEOPLE WALK THROUGH MY BACKYARD CHECKING THE SEWER MANHOLES ALL THE TIME. YEAH. NOBODY CALLS ME FIRST. IT CAN IT DOES GET GRAY FROM A LEGAL PERSPECTIVE. SO IN SOME OF THE ORIGINAL COUNTRY CLUB COMMUNITIES, WE DON'T HAVE IN PLACE EASEMENTS AND SOMETHING THAT WOULD GIVE US LIKE LEGAL ACCESS, WE DO HAVE RIGHTFUL ACCESS IN THE EVENT OF A CATASTROPHIC STORM OR SOMETHING.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE CAN BASICALLY GO ANYWHERE WE NEED TO HELP ASSIST THAT IN WHATEVER WAY. BUT THE MORE RECENT I MEAN, I'VE BEEN HERE FOR 11 YEARS, SO I'VE PROBABLY BEFORE THAT EVEN. BUT THE MORE RECENT DEVELOPMENTS DO HAVE IN PLACE CONSERVATION EASEMENTS AND OTHER PROTECTION ZONES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. SO ANYTIME THERE'S AN EASEMENT, WE ABSOLUTELY HAVE THE RIGHT TO ENTER ON TO IT. BUT THESE EASEMENTS EXIST BECAUSE THEY'RE ON THEY ARE ON PRIVATE PROPERTY.
SO WE DO HAVE WE HAVE ACCESS RESTRICTIONS THAT WE HAVE TO KIND OF CONSIDER. SO OKAY. WELL THAT'S GREAT. THAT GIVES US A LOT TO I THINK DIG INTO AND THEN BRING BACK TO YOU. AND I THINK THE TIMING IS RIGHT, TO KIND OF FORM THAT, TAKE THIS FROM AN IDEA INTO A BUDGET PROPOSAL.
OKAY ANYTHING ELSE RELATED TO THAT AGENDA ITEM? YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT? THOUGHTS ABOUT THE,
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PLANT REPLACEMENT, INVASIVE SPECIES REPLACEMENT? YEAH. AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT DURING THE MID-YEAR BUDGET REVIEW IF YOU WANT. ALL RIGHT. DOES THAT WORK? YEAH ALL RIGHT. CLASS IS BACK ON. THAT CONCLUDES BUSINESS, THEN. SO I'M GOING TO GO BACKWARDS NOW, AND, IF YOU'RE[VI. Food Waste Compost Working Group Report]
OKAY WITH THAT, I'LL GIVE A QUICK UPDATE ON THE FOOD WASTE COMPOST WORKING GROUP. LAST MONTH, LAURA AND I AND CHELSEA AND ADRIAN MET, WE GOT TO A POINT ABOUT TALKING ABOUT MOVING FORWARD WITH, PILOT HOME PICKUP, COMPOST PROGRAM, AND THEN SUBSEQUENTLY, BEFORE COMING TO THE BOARD, I'VE BEEN TALKING WITH SUEKO. GOT CHELSEA INVOLVED BECAUSE WE'RE JUST FINDING OUT SOME OTHER UPDATES, I'M LIGHT ON SPECIFICS, BUT IT'S BASICALLY THERE ARE A COUPLE MORE, CARRIERS THAT HAVE THAT HAVE COME TO LIGHT THAT SUEKO SAID. THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT EITHER HAVE KIND OF CHANGED THEIR TUNE OF HOW THEY'RE DOING THINGS, OR THEY MIGHT BE SOMEBODY TO CONSIDER. WE FOUND OUT THAT THE CITY OF COLUMBUS, THROUGH A GRANT SOME TIME AGO AND AGAIN, LIGHT ON DETAILS. I DON'T THINK YOU GOT A CHANCE TO REACH OUT. RIGHT. THEY HAVE A LARGE, LARGER SCALE BIODIGESTER THAT COULD HANDLE FOOD, SCRAP COMPOST, WE DON'T QUITE KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH IT. AND THEN I HAPPEN TO REACH OUT TO A THIRD PARTY PROVIDER OF AN ANAEROBIC, FULLY CONTAINED, ANAEROBIC DIGESTER PROGRAM, THAT SOMEONE THAT THE CITY. WE COULD EITHER TALK ABOUT LEASING OR BUYING SIMILAR TO THE ORGANICS KIND OF THING, BUT IT'S A DIFFERENT TYPE OF PROGRAM, A DIFFERENT TYPE OF SYSTEM. SO IN ALL, I WANTED TO PRESENT TO THE BOARD AND SPECIFICALLY TO YOU SITTING ON THE SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING, IF YOU'RE FINE, LIKE PUNTING THIS AND IN ORDER TO ALLOW STAFF TO KIND OF DO SOME MORE DIGGING INTO WHAT KIND OF HAS COME TO LIGHT, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO SAY WE HAVE NEW INFORMATION AND BETTER INFORMATION. LET'S TRY AND UTILIZE THAT. AND THE THING WITH THE CITY OF COLUMBUS THING COULD BE INTERESTING. AS AN OPPORTUNITY. THAT MAKES SENSE. TWO WEEKS IF WE CAN. SO I'M HOPING THAT IN TWO WEEKS WE CAN DIG THROUGH SOME STUFF AND HAVE OUR NEXT SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING DO THAT. GREAT, GREAT. THANK YOU. LOOK AT THAT OFF THE HOOK, AND THE NEXT ITEM WOULD BE OTHER[VIII. Other Business]
BUSINESS. SO THIS IS. HARD TO SEE ON THE PAPER. THANK YOU. SURE. THANKS. SO, NEXT MONTH, WE WILL OUR OUR MAIN AGENDA ITEM WILL BE TALKING ABOUT, WHAT THE BOARD SEES AS THEIR PROPOSED BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR. SO AS A REMINDER, THIS IS AN ADVISORY BOARD TO CITY COUNCIL. AND WHAT WE'VE DONE IN PRACTICE THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS HAS COME UP WITH A WORK PLAN, AND BUDGET PROPOSA, THEN THAT'S PRESENTED TO CITY COUNCIL AT THEIR BUDGET WORKSHOPS AND THEN ULTIMATELY IS INCLUDED OR, YOU KNOW, CHANGED OR MODIFIED OR INCLUDED IN THE CITY'S BUDGET. SO WHAT'S IN FRONT OF YOU, RIGHT NOW AND ON THE SCREEN IS THIS YEAR'S BUDGE. SO EVERYTHING IN TAN WERE DIFFERENT, EITHER PROJECTS OR PROGRAMS THAT THE BOARD GOT FUNDED THIS YEAR, AND THEN THIS IS OUR EXPENSE TRACKING. SO WHAT WE'VE EXPENDED SO FAR AND WHAT OUR REMAINING BUDGET IS. SO YOU CAN SEE, FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAVEN'T LIKE THE NATIVE, THE INVASIVE TREE AND SHRUB TRADE IN PROGRAM IS GETTING READY TO LAUNCH NEXT MONTH. SO WE HAVEN'T SPENT ANYTHING WITH THAT YET. BUT WE WILL BY THE END OF THE YEAR. SAME WITH OUR COMPOSTING LINE ITEM, WE SPENT ABOUT OUR PURCHASE ORDER FOR THAT IS $20,000 THROUGH JULY. WE'VE SPENT 11,000 OF IT, SO WE PROBABLY WILL SPEND ALL OF THAT THIS YEAR, KIND OF THE BOTTOM LINE IS WE DO HAVE 43,000 REMAINING OUT OF OUR $71,000 ORIGINAL BUDGET, AND THAT IS WHAT, YOU KNOW, THE WATER DIVERSION WATER MONSTER WE GOT, SWACO MADE A REQUIREMENT OF THE GRANT THAT WE BUY ALUMINUM CUPS.SO THAT WAS AN UNANTICIPATED BUDGET ITEM. BUT WE HAVE ENOUGH AND OTHER LINE ITEMS THAT WE'RE
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ABLE TO COVER THAT, WE DID I DID WANT TO POINT OUT I SAID WE WERE LAUNCHING THE INVASIVE TREE AND SHRUB TRADE IN PROGRAM NEXT MONTH. WE'RE DOING THAT IN CONJUNCTION WITH FRANKLIN COUNTY SOIL AND WATER THAT HAS BEEN WRAPPED UP IN THE CITY'S ANNUAL CONTRACT WITH THEM, BECAUSE WE CONTRACT WITH THEM FOR OTHER SERVICES DURING THE YEAR. WE DID. YOU SEE ON THE BOTTOM HERE, WE DID BUDGET FOR THE POTENTIAL EXPANSION OF THAT. IF IT WAS POPULAR. SO I WE CAN LAUNCH IT AND SEE HOW THE KIND OF INTEREST GOES. BUT IF IT'S REALLY POPULAR, WE WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO EXPAND IT, IF THE BOARD WANTED TO. CAN I JUST CLARIFY THAT? I'M SORRY, CAN I CLARIFY ON THE COMPOST PROGRAM THAT REMAINING BUDGET? AREN'T WE EATING THAT UP WITH THE FOURTH LOCATION? WE YES. THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE THAT FOURTH YET BECAUSE IT HASN'T GONE TO COUNCIL YET.OH THAT'S RIGHT. BUT I, I ANTICIPATE WE WILL HAVE, ENOUGH REMAINING BUDGET FROM OTHER LINE ITEMS TO ACCOUNT FOR THAT THIS YEAR. YEAH SO ULTIMATELY, THIS IS WHAT WE'LL WORK TOWARDS FOR 2025. IN THE WAY IN OUR WORK PLAN LAST YEAR, WE BROKE IT DOWN. I THINK IT WAS ONGOING PROJECTS, SO COMPOSTING THE E-WASTE DRIVE, THE HAZARDOUS HOUSEHOLD WASTE THAT WE'VE KIND OF WE'VE DONE FOR 2 TO 3 YEARS NOW. THEN I THINK THE OTHER CATEGORY, WE HAD THREE CATEGORIES. YEAH, CORE AND ONGOING AND NEW. YES SO PROBABLY CONTINUE THAT STRUCTURE OVER AND THEN WE'LL KIND OF WORK WITH THE BOARD TO SAY, HEY, OUR CORE PROGRAMS, ARE THEY STILL OUR CORE PROGRAMS. DO WE STILL WANT TO DO THAT CHECK ONGOING. SAME THING FROM THE NEW. WHAT DID WE ACCOMPLISH THIS YEAR? IF THERE WAS SOMETHING WE DIDN'T GET TO DO, WE WANT TO ROLL IT OVER AND THEN ARE THERE NEW PROJECTS WE WANT TO ADD FOR NEXT YEAR? SO THAT'S KIND OF HOW I SEE NEXT MEETING GOING. IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY INPUT OR SOMETHING YOU WANT US TO DO, JUST REACH OUT AND LET US KNOW. DO YOU THINK YOU HAVE INPUT? MAYBE I HAD PRE INPUT. HOW ABOUT THAT. YEAH. DO YOU WANT MY PRE INPUT. YOU CAN GET PRE INPUT. YOU CAN GIVE POST INPUT. SO MY PRE INPUT JUST SO YOU GUYS HAVE HEARD IT. I THINK WITH THE AMOUNT OF WORK WE'RE DOING ON COMPOSTING AND THEN WITH THIS EXCHANGE PROGRAM THE LAND EXCHANGE PROGRAM, ALSO IN LIGHT OF HAVING TWO NEW MEMBERS, I WANTED TO PROPOSE. NOT TONIGHT. WE'LL WAIT FOR NEXT MONTH, BUT PROPOSED TO HOLD OFF ON THE RESIDENTIAL COMMERCIAL CERTIFICATION CONVERSATION, BECAUSE WHILE THAT WAS KIND OF A BABY OF MINE, I JUST DON'T THINK THE TIMING, RESOURCES MENTALLY ARE GOING TO BE PUT TOWARDS THAT. SO THAT TO ME COULD COME UP WITH A WAIT, I'M SORRY, WHICH ONE? THAT'S ON THE, IT'S NOT ON.
IT'S NOT ON THIS ONE. IT WAS HERE. WHAT WAS IT CALLED? IT WAS THE CERTIFICATION PROGRAM. OH PROBABLY BECAUSE WE DIDN'T. DID WE ALLOCATE A DOLLAR AMOUNT TO IT? THREE 3000. OH, OKAY. YEAH.
I'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT AND FIND MONEY ALL OVER THE PLACE. RIGHT. LOOK AT THAT. CHECK THE CUSHIONS, ANYWAY, THE PART OF THAT ALSO CONVERSATION, IS WHILE THERE'S ADDITIONAL MONEY FOR THE NATIVE LANDSCAPE, EXPANSION, AND YOU GUYS CAN JUMP IN IF THIS IS NOT POSSIBLE, BUT, I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT WHEN WE WERE DOING IT, LIKE, WHAT WOULD WE USE? WHAT WOULD SOMEBODY REPLACE, YOU KNOW, PULL SOMETHING OUT AND DO IT AND MOST PEOPLE HAVE HONEYSUCKLE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO IT'S LIKE A GRAPE OR A SHRUB A SHRUB. OR DO THEY WANT TO TRY AND GET RID OF A PEAR TREE, AND THE AMOUNT THAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT KIND OF IN OUR DISCUSSIONS DIDN'T REALLY SEEM TO SUPPORT THAT. SO I WAS LIKE, ALL RIGHT, WELL, RATHER THAN DOING THIS SMALL WHAT ARE WE IF THERE'S ADDITIONAL MONEY, WE KICK MORE MONEY AT IT AND ADD LIKE ANOTHER TIER WHERE SOMEONE COULD GO AFTER TREES. AND SO THERE'S LIKE A, YOU KNOW, TREE AND OTHER MATERIAL, OR IS IT TO BUMP UP THE WHOLE LUMP SUM THAT COULD HAPPEN, I'M GOING TO BE QUIET THAT STAFF JUMP IN BECAUSE THEY HAD CONVERSATIONS AND DELIBERATIONS WITH FRANKLIN SONOMA WATER ABOUT HOW TO MANAGE IT. SO HOW IT'S BEEN PROPOSED SO FAR WITH FRANKLIN COUNTY SOIL AND WATER WOULD BE THAT THERE'S
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SO THEY HAVE TWO PROGRAMS, THE COMMUNITY BACKYARD PROGRAM THAT THEY MANAGE FOR US FOR YEARS.AND I THINK SOME OF YOU HAVE PROBABLY TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF IT. AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG WITH THE NUMBERS, BUT YOU CAN IF YOU GO THROUGH THAT PROGRAM, YOU CAN GET $100. REIMBURSEMENT TOWARDS A OH THAT'S GREAT. YEAH BARREL OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO RAIN BARREL COMPOST OR YOU CAN, THEY DO A RAIN GARDEN. YOU CAN, YOU CAN GET SOME MONEY OFF OF RAIN GARDEN INSTALLATION. AND THEN WE WERE THINKING WITH THE INVASIVE TRADE IN YOU REMOVE AN INVASIVE SPECIES, YOU PROVE TO THEM THAT YOU DID. YOU CAN BUY A SPECIES FROM THE APPROVED LIST AND THEN SUBMIT A RECEIPT OF RECEIPT FOR REIMBURSEMENT, FOR UP TO 150. AND SO IF YOU DID THOSE TWO THINGS, YOU COULD GET $250 TO GO TOWARDS YOUR NEW TREE SHRUB, WHATEVER YOU WANTED IT TO BE. SO THAT'S HOW IT STANDS NOW. NOW WE COULD, IF WE WANTED TO PUT MORE MONEY TO IT. YOU COULD INCREASE THE TOTAL POT. SO MORE PEOPLE COULD DO IT, OR YOU COULD INCREASE WHAT IS BEING REIMBURSED FOR ANY INDIVIDUAL THAT PARTICIPATES. I THINK YOU COULD GO ABOUT IT EITHER WAY. CAN SOMEONE DO TWO THINGS AND GET TWICE THE MONEY? LIKE IF THEY TAKE OUT A PEAR TREE AND THEN THEY DO SOMETHING ELSE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THEIR YARD? CAN THEY, CAN THEY DO MORE THAN ONE? OR IS IT JUST LIKE ONE AND DONE? I WOULD HAVE TO READ THAT. I DON'T REMEMBER TALKING ABOUT THAT. I'D HAVE TO READ IT AND SEE HOW THAT WAS WORDED. I THINK, I THINK IT IS AN AMOUNT PER HOUSEHOLD. YES, BUT BUT YOU DO. SO YOU GET 150. SO IT'S NOT LIKE YOU'VE GOT TO BUY ONE THING FOR 150. YOU COULD BUY ONE, GO BUY BLACK-EYED SUSANS AND THEN A WHOLE BANK OF THAT KIND OF THING. YOU CAN DO THAT UP TO WHATEVER THAT REIMBURSEMENT WHICH IS, WHICH IS NOT WHAT I THOUGHT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT IT ORIGINALLY. IT WAS LIKE A ONE FOR ONE KIND OF THING. SO I DO LIKE THE IDEA THAT THIS IS A BIGGER AMOUNT, THAT SOMEONE CAN SAY, GREAT, I'M I CALLED IT HONEYSUCKLE AND I CAN GO, DO YOU KNOW, A BIGGER KIND OF SWATH? IT REALLY IN MY MIND IT JUMPS TO THE WHOLE TREE CONVERSATION BECAUSE YOU HAVE A TREE REMOVED AND TO PLANT A DECENT SIZED TREE IN ITS PLACE, EVEN 250 IS NOT GOING TO, YOU KNOW, DO MUCH. YEAH. EVEN 250 IS NOT GOING. I MEAN, IT'S GOING TO HELP, BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO GET YOU A DECENT, DECENT SIZED TREE TO REPLACE. SO I WAS I JUST THREW OUT THE IDEA LIKE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK IT HAS TO BE A THOUSAND. YOU KNOW, I IS IT 500, IS IT 350 THAT THAT GETS TO 450 OR WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE. AND, YOU KNOW, I'M HAPPY TO DO SOME POKING AROUND OF WHAT TREES COST OR I THINK EASY ENOUGH TO GO DO IT, BUT JUST THE IDEA OF DOING IT. SO I KIND OF LIKE THE IDEA OF TEARING IT SO THAT YOU COULD SAY, HERE'S THE BASE PROGRAM. IS THIS WITH THE IDEA THAT YOU'RE REMOVING SHRUBS OR GRASSES OR WHATEVER, AND THEN THERE'S A TREE VERSION THAT IS A LEVEL ABOVE, AND I THINK IT'S AN EITHER OR. IT'S NOT BOTH. AND YOU'RE PROPOSING IF WE HAD, MONEY THAT WE FEEL LIKE IT'S NOT GOING TO BE USED IN OTHER AREAS, WE COULD REALLOCATE THAT TO. ON THE OTHER PIECE OF IT IS I LIKE THE I LIKE THE BUZZ THAT CREATES WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE PROGRAM FOR THE CITY IS THAT WE'RE ALSO, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT NOT THAT THIS IS A SMALL AMOUNT AT 150, BUT WE'RE ALSO TRYING TO ADDRESS TREES AS WELL AS JUST NATIVE SPECIES IN GENERAL. THIS IS NOT REALLY A BUDGET QUESTION, BUT I'M CURIOUS ABOUT JUST THE ROLLOUT OF THE IDEA. OR LIKE THE, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE EDUCATE PEOPLE ABOUT THE PROGRAM? WELL, THE PROGRAM IS SET TO LAUNCH IN SEPTEMBER, SO WE WERE GOING TO START, PROMOTING THIS MONTH, LIKE EMAILS. AND THE THING I'M WORKING WITH OUR COMMUNICATIONS TEAM ON SOCIAL MEDIA, CONNECTS NEWSLETTER, DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT. AND THEN THE FRANKLIN COUNTY SOIL AND WATER WILL BE HELPING AS WELL. THEY'VE, CREATED A WEB PAGE AND STUFF LIKE THAT. YEAH. THIS WAS NOT A WELCOME CURVEBALL THAT I THREW AT CHELSEA. TO BE CLEAR. BUT, I MEAN, I GUESS TO THAT SAME END, YOU KNOW, THIS MAYBE, MAYBE THIS LAUNCHES IN SEPTEMBER AND THIS COULD BE AN ADD ON PROGRAM IN OCTOBER WHEN YOU BE PLANTING MORE CLOSE TO PLANTING TREES ANYWAY. YEAH. I MEAN, I THINK IT CAN LAUNCH AND WE CAN GO BACK AND TALK TO SOIL AND WATER AND, I THINK THERE'S TWO WAYS TO GO ABOUT IT. LIKE IF WE LAUNCH AND IT'S REALLY POPULAR AND WE KNOW IMMEDIATELY ALL WE HAVE TO LIKE, WE GOT TO SUPPLEMENT THIS, THEN WE DO IT, THEN, OR WE CAN GO BACK AND ASK THEM TO GIVE US SOME NUMBERS BECAUSE WE DID HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE COST OF A TREE. AND ARE WE SUBSIDIZING ARE WE MAKING PEOPLE WHOLE? RIGHT. AND I THINK WE HAVE SOME OF THAT INFORMATION THAT WE COULD
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REFRESH AND LOOK AT AGAIN AND SAY, MAYBE THERE IS A MAYBE 350, GET TO WHERE WE THINK IT'S ENOUGH OF A RIGHT DRAW FOR PEOPLE, SO THAT WE CAN DEFINITELY DO THAT RESEARCH AND, COMMUNICATE WITH YOU WHAT WE FIND OUT VIA EMAIL AND SEE, I DON'T THINK IT NECESSARILY IMPACTS THE LAUNCH OR THE MARKETING MATERIALS, BECAUSE WE'RE STILL THE FUNDAMENTALS OF THE PROGRAM ARE GOING TO BE THE SAME. BUT OKAY. ALL RIGHT, DO ANY BOARD MEMBERS HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR ANYTHING ELSE THEY'D LIKE TO DISCUSS? I KNOW I DON'T. LAURA. ANYTHING. WELL, SEEING NONE, I'LL MOVE TO ADJOURN THE MEETING AT IS THAT 740? DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. THANK YOU SO MUCH. HEAR YOU SAY I. I WAS GOING TO GAVEL SMACKING IT.* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.