[I. Call to order]
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          IS STAFF READY? YES. COMMISSION MEMBERS. I'D LIKE TO CALL THE ORDER OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING FOR MONDAY, SEPTEMBER THE 16TH. COULD YOU THE ROLL, PLEASE? MR. KIRBY? PRESENT. MR. SHELL. PRESENT. MR. LARSON. PRESENT, MISS BRIGGS. HERE MR. WALLACE. COUNCIL MEMBER WILTROUT HERE. HERE ARE FOUR VOTING MEMBERS PRESENT. WE HAVE A QUORUM. THANK YOU. ITEM THREE IS 
          [III. Action on minutes: August 19, 2024]
ACTION ON THE MINUTES FROM AUGUST THE 19TH. ARE THERE ANY CORRECTIONS TO THE AUGUST 19TH? MINUTES NOT FROM ME. DO YOUR MOTION ON THE AUGUST 19TH MINUTES. I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM OUR AUGUST 19TH, 2024 MEETING. DO I HEAR A SECOND? I WILL SECOND IT. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION FOR THE MINUTES? THANK YOU. THE ROLL PLEASE. MR. SHELL. YES. MR. KIRBY. YES. MISS BRIGGS. ABSTAIN MR. LARSON. YES. MOTION PASSES. THERE ARE THREE VOTES TO APPROVE 
          [IV. Additions or corrections to the agenda]
THE MINUTES AS PRESENTED. THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS TO THE AGENDA FROM STAFF? SORRY, NONE FROM STAFF. OKAY. CAN I DO A QUICK POLL? HOW MANY PEOPLE HERE FOR THE HAMLET? RAISE YOUR HANDS. OKAY. I'D LIKE TO REORDER THE HAMLET LAST SO THAT THE OTHER TWO CASES, WHICH SHOULD BE RELATIVELY SHORT, CAN GET OUT OF HERE IN CASE THE HAMLET TAKES A RELATIVELY LONG TIME. SO WITH THAT, WE GO TO ITEM. WE GO TO ITEM FOUR, EVERYONE WHO WISHES TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION TONIGHT, PLEASE RISE. DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? THANK YOU. AND WHILE WE'RE AT IT, LET'S MAKE OUR PHONES SILENT TOO. SORRY. ITEM FIVE IS FOR HEARING OF VISITORS FOR ITEMS THAT ARE NOT ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA. DO WE HAVE ANY SUCH VISITORS TONIGHT? HEARING NONE, WE MOVE ON TO OUR CASES. WE'VE MOVED THE HAMLET TO LAST SO THAT 
          [VI. Cases]
TAKES US TO VARIANCE OF 6124. CAN WE HEAR FROM STAFF, PLEASE? THANK YOU. CHAIR, JUST AS A HEADS UP, THE CITY STAFF HAS MISINTERPRETED THE BUILDING DISTANCE FROM THE REAR YARD LOT LINE. SO THE STAFF REPORT SAYS THAT IT IS AN ENCROACHMENT OF SIX FEET. WHEN, HOWEVER, THERE'S ACTUALLY AN ENCROACHMENT OF FOUR FEET. THIS PROPERTY IS WITHIN THE NOTTINGHAM TREE SUBDIVISION AND CONTAINS A SINGLE FAMILY HOME. IT IS WEST OF THE NEW ALBANY CONDUIT ROAD AND SOUTH OF WALNUT STREET. AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S HIGHLIGHTED IN RED HERE. THE REAR YARD BUILDING SETBACK FOR THE PROPERTY IS 35FT, AND THE ZONING TEXT ALLOWS FOR ENCROACHMENTS OF COVERED PATIOS UP TO SIX FEET IN THE BUILDING SETBACK. THEREFORE, THE COVERED PATIO SETBACK IS 29FT AND THE DRAINAGE EASEMENT IS THE DRAINAGE EASEMENT IS 20FT IN WIDTH AND THE APPLICANT IS NOT PROPOSING TO ENCROACH INTO THE EASEMENT, WHICH WILL NOT IMPACT ANY PUBLIC OR PRIVATE UTILITIES OR STORMWATER CONVEYANCE. THEREFORE, THE VARIANCE DOES NOT APPEAR TO BE SUBSTANTIAL. THE VARIANCE DOES NOT APPEAR TO HAVE ANY SPECIAL CONDITIONS AND CIRCUMSTANCES WHICH EXIST AND ARE PECULIAR TO THE PROPERTY. INTERIOR LOTS TYPICALLY HAVE ABOUT 15 TO 20FT FOR THE PRIMARY BUILDING SETBACK. HOWEVER, LOTS LOCATED ALONG THE PERIPHERY OF THE SUBDIVISION, SUCH AS THIS ONE HAVE LARGER SETBACKS SINCE THEY ARE ADJACENT TO EXISTING TOWNSHIP RESIDENCES. 
          ADDITIONALLY, THE HOUSE IS LOCATED THE HOUSE LOCATED BEHIND THIS PROPERTY IS OVER 220FT AWAY FROM THE PROPERTY LINE, AND THERE APPEARS TO BE AN EXISTING TREE LINE THAT PROVIDES BUFFERING AS WELL. YOU CAN KIND OF SEE IT ALONG THE LINE HERE, AND THIS IS WHERE THE HOME IN THE TOWNSHIP IS. THE PROPOSED COVERED PATIO DOESN'T ALTER THE NEIGHBOR'S. THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S ESSENTIAL CHARACTER BECAUSE IT'S SIMILAR TO OTHERS IN THE SUBDIVISION. HOWEVER, THE PROPOSED FIREPLACE INCLUDES SIDING ON THE EXTERIOR, ACCORDING TO THE NOTTINGHAM TRACE ZONING TEXT, ONLY BRICK IS PERMITTED AS AN EXTERIOR MATERIAL FOR FIREPLACES. 
          THEREFORE, CITY STAFF RECOMMENDS A CONDITION OF APPROVAL REQUIRING THE FIREPLACE CHIMNEY MATERIALS BE CHANGED TO BRICK. THE VARIANCE CAN BE SOLVED IN ANOTHER MANNER BY REDUCING THE COVERED PATIO SIZE. IF THE SIZE OF THE PATIO AND FIREPLACE WERE REDUCED BY ABOUT FOUR FEET, THERE WOULD BE NO NEED FOR INVARIANCE AND ALL THE LOT HAS A LARGE REAR YARD SETBACK. THEN 
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THE TYPICAL HOME WITHIN THE SUBDIVISION, SINCE IT'S LOCATED ON THE BOUNDARY OF THE OF THE SUBDIVISION AND IS ADJACENT TO A TOWNSHIP RESIDENCE, THE EXISTING HOME BEHIND THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS 220FT AWAY, AND THERE IS AN EXISTING TREE LINE FOR BUFFERING, AND AT THIS TIME STAFF WILL TAKE QUESTIONS. OKAY, ANY FROM THE COMMISSION FOR STAFF? DID WE HEAR FROM ANY OF THE NEIGHBORS? WE DID NOT. THANK YOU. CAN WE HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT? HI. MY NAME IS JEFF HOROVITZ. I'M WITH SUN CRAFT AND WE ARE THE APPLICANT AND THE BUILDER FOR THE PROJECT. OKAY. 
          IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WISH TO ADD TO WHAT WAS JUST PRESENTED? I THINK IT WAS WELL DESCRIBED. 
          THE ONLY OTHER THING THAT THE ACTUAL SURVEY CALLS THIS LOT NUMBER 107. BUT THEN I WAS TOLD THAT THE LOTS WERE ALL RENUMBERED BECAUSE LOT NUMBER 107 HAS A 15 FOOT REAR YARD SETBACK, WHICH WOULD MAKE THIS A VARIANCE APPLICATION, NOT NECESSARY. AND I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF YOU KNOW ABOUT THAT. YES. SO THE REGULATIONS ARE BASED ON THE LOT NUMBERS AT THE TIME OF THE REZONING, BASED ON THE REZONING EXHIBIT. HOWEVER, DUE TO PHASING CONSTRUCTION, PHASING OF THE SUBDIVISION ITSELF, THE LOT NUMBERS WERE CHANGED AS THEY WERE PLACED ON THE PLAT ITSELF AND HOW THEY WERE RECORDED. SO THERE'S THE A LOT NUMBER THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE SUBDIVISION, PER THE APPROVED PLATS. AND THEN THERE'S A SEPARATE LOT NUMBER THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE ZONING REGULATIONS. SO IN ANY EVENT, THE WIDTH OF THE PORCH 12FT IS KIND OF A MINIMUM. IF YOU ASK ME, FOR A USABLE SPACE TO BE ABLE TO PUT FURNITURE, A TABLE AND CHAIRS, AND I'D HATE TO SEE IT BECOME ANY NARROWER THAN THAT, BECAUSE IT WOULD REALLY, YOU KNOW, MAKE THE SPACE NOT AS USABLE. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION? YEAH IS IT IS THE APPLICANT OKAY WITH USING BRICK? I BELIEVE THE HOMEOWNER IS HERE AT THE MEETING, AND SHE INDICATED THAT SHE IS OKAY WITH CHANGING THE MATERIAL ON THE CHIMNEY TO BRICK. OKAY. IF YOU COME TO THE MIC WITH YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, SIR, CAN YOU STEP UP SO THE MIC WILL PICK UP? I'M SORRY. YEAH, I'M NANCY WILLIS, I'M THE HOMEOWNER, AND I'M FINE. I TOLD JEFF I'M FINE WITH USING BRICK. THAT'S NOT AN ISSUE FOR ME AT ALL. AND THE ONLY OTHER THING I WANTED TO SAY IS THAT, TWO OF MY NEIGHBORS, IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORS ON THE ONE SIDE, HAVE, PATIOS THAT EXTEND 12FT. SO IT WOULD BE IN KEEPING WITH THE REST OF THE HOUSES AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD, TO ALLOW ME TO DO THE 12FT. AND I TOTALLY AGREE WITH JEFF. IT TEN FEET IS A PRETTY NARROW SPACE, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'VE GOT A FIREPLACE. 
          THERE THAT'S TAKING UP PART OF IT. SO QUESTION FOR STAFF. IF THE FIREPLACE WAS NOT ATTACHED TO THE PORCH, WOULD IT NOT BE CONSIDERED PART OF THE. WOULD IT. WOULD THAT COUNT AS PART OF THE ENCROACHMENT STILL? LIKE IF IT WAS MORE LIKE A FIRE PIT? IT PROBABLY WOULD BE CONSIDERED, A SEPARATE IMPROVEMENT THAN YET NOT PART OF THE COVERED PORCH. SO IT MIGHT HAVE A DIFFERENT SETBACK. WE COULD LOOK THAT UP. DO WE KNOW THE PATIO SETBACK? SO THE PATIO SETBACK IS THAT 29FT? SO COVERED PORCHES, PATIOS AND DECKS IS WHAT THE ZONING TEXT SAYS CAN ENCROACH SIX FEET INTO THE REQUIRED BUILDING SETBACK. SO YOUR NEIGHBORS ARE ARE OVER THE LINE THEN? WELL THE NEIGHBORS HAVE NO ROOF, JUST A PATIO, JUST A PATIO. BUT IT DOES EXTEND 12FT OUT FROM THE BACK OF THEIR HOUSE. THAT WAS ALL THE ONLY POINT I WAS TRYING TO MAKE THAT THEY APPARENTLY HAD TO GET PERMITS, BUT NOT VARIANCES BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T WANT TO COVER THEIRS. HOWEVER, FOR ME, I WOULD BE MUCH MORE USABLE TO HAVE A COVERED SPACE THAN SITTING OUT IN THE BLARING SUN ALL DAY. YEAH DO WE? ALL RIGHT. IS THAT A PROBLEM? I SEE, SO THIS IS NEIGHBORS, YOUR DIRECT NEIGHBORS AS OPPOSED TO OTHER PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD? YES WELL, OKAY, SO MY HOUSE IS HERE. 
          THE NEIGHBOR ON THIS SIDE, ON THE RIGHT OF ME, AND THE NEXT HOUSE ON THE RIGHT OF ME, BOTH HAVE, PATIOS THAT EXTEND 12FT AND THEN 20 SOMETHING FEET. DO YOUR WALLS LINE UP ON THE HOUSE? DO THE REAR WALLS LINE UP ON THE HOUSES? YES. SO THEY'RE NOT STAGGERED? I THINK SO, RIGHT? I 
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DON'T KNOW. I THINK MY IMMEDIATE NEIGHBOR, SIMILAR ON ONE SIDE DOES, BUT NOT ON MY LEFT SIDE. 
          YEAH. SO THERE'S VARIOUS HOME ELEVATIONS THAT HAVE DIFFERENT LENGTHS AND WIDTHS. SO IT COULD BE THAT JUST THE HOUSE IS SLIGHTLY SMALLER OR IT DOESN'T PROJECT AS FAR TO THE BACK OF THE LOT. BUT NO, WE'RE NOT AWARE OF ANY OTHER VARIANCES. WITHIN THE AREA FOR PATIOS, BUT COULD THE ZONING TEXT FOR THE SUBDIVISION DOES SAY FOR ALL DECKS, PATIOS AND SCREEN PORCHES. SO WHETHER IT'S COVERED OR UNCOVERED, WE BELIEVE THAT THIS REGULATION WOULD APPLY. SO EVEN IF SO, EVEN IF IT WAS UNCOVERED, THEY WOULD STILL BE IN THIS POSITION. THAT'S CORREC. 
          STEVE, DID YOU JUST SAY YOU DON'T RECALL ANY OTHER VARIANCES LIKE THIS IN THIS SUBDIVISION? YEAH. NONE THAT WE'RE AWARE OF. WELL, THERE'S ONLY A FEW HOUSES ON THAT ARE AFFECTED BY THIS 35 FOOT SETBACK ALONG MY LITTLE STRIP AT THE END OF THE OF THE STREET. SO THEY'RE THE ONLY HOUSES IT LOOKS LIKE FROM THE PLOT THING THAT ARE AFFECTED BY IT. MAYBE 5 OR 6 HOUSES. ANYONE ELSE FROM THE PUBLIC WITH QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? FROM THE COMMISSION. WE IF WE BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW IF THE OTHER PATIOS ARE IN THE SAME SETBACK OR NOT OR COMPLIANCE. SO THAT WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND. I THINK TO MAKE A DECISION. WELL, NO, THOSE ARE BASICALLY EITHER BEING IN COMPLIANCE OR NOT. RIGHT. WE'RE MAKING A DECISION ON VARIANCE. YEAH OKAY. I MOVE TO ACCEPT THE STAFF REPORTS AND RELATED DOCUMENTS INTO THE RECORD FOR VARIANCE OF 61 2024. 
          YOUR SECOND ON THE DOCUMENTS MOTION. SO I'LL SECOND IT. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE DOCUMENTS CALL THE ROLL PLEASE. MR. KIRBY. YES. MR. LARSON. YES. MR. SHELL. YES. MISS BRIGGS. YES. THE MOTION PASSES. THERE ARE FOUR VOTES TO ACCEPT THE DOCUMENTS INTO THE RECORD. I MOVE FOR APPROVAL OF VARIANCE 61 2024. SUBJECT TO CONDITION IN THE STAFF REPORT. DO I HEAR A SECOND? SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE VARIANCE ITSELF? OKAY. THE ROLL. MR. KIRBY? NO MISS BRIGGS. YES MR. SHELL. NO MR. LARSON. NO THE MOTION FAILS WITH ONE VOTE IN FAVOR AND THREE VOTES AGAINST. 
          FOR THE RECORD, CAN YOU EXPLAIN THE NOTES? OH, THANK YOU, I DON'T THINK IT MEETS THE DUNCAN CRITERIA. AND IN PARTICULAR, AS MANY OF THOSE ARE POINTED OUT IN THE STAFF REPORT, SUCH AS, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT PARTICULARLY THE CONDITION IS NOT PARTICULAR TO THIS HOUSE. IT'S SHARED AMONGST THAT WHOLE ROW. AND, IT'S NOT THERE'S A WHOLE PILE OF THINGS IN THE DUNCAN CONDITION, AND I DON'T THINK IT MEETS THEM. THE PREPONDERANCE DOES NOT MEET THEM. YEAH, I WOULD AGREE, ESPECIALLY TO DUNCAN. WHERE THERE'S ANOTHER CHOICE TO AS MUCH AS WE HATE TO SAY NO. AND I KNOW SHRINKING THOSE PATIOS SOMETIMES MAKES IT DIFFICULT, BUT THERE IS AN OPTION TO SHRINK IT. AND, TO WHAT DIMENSION ARE YOU ASKING IT TO BE? SEE, RIGHT NOW, I THINK THE PORCH IS 28.97 26.97. CALL IT 27FT. SO YOU'RE SAYING TAKE TWO FEET OFF. STAY OUT OF IT. STAY OUT OF THE VARIANCE. STAY OUT OF THE ZONE. THAT'S SO INSTEAD OF 12FT OUT, TEN FEET OUT. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? THAT WOULD NOT BE. I DID CHECK WITH STAFF TO HAVE THE EXACT NUMBERS, AND THEY'RE THE ONES THAT APPROVED THE PERMITS ON HOW TO GET IT DONE. YEAH, WE'RE CERTAINLY HAPPY TO MEET AFTER THE MEETING OR SET UP A MEETING WITH YOU SOMETIME THIS WEEK TO GO OVER OPTIONS. SO WOULD THAT OBVIATE THE NEED FOR A VARIANCE THEN IF WE DID THAT? THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HAPPY TO DISCUSS WITH YOU. YEAH. OKAY. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. THANK YO. GO GET YOUR PAPERWORK AND GET IT DONE. YEAH. THANK YOU. MINDS THE SAME THING. IT'S LIKE THIS ISN'T A UNIQUE CONDITION. IT CAN BE SOLVED IN ANOTHER MANNER. AND SO WITHOUT A VARIANCE, WE COULD DO IT THAT WAY. ALL RIGHT. WELL, YOU KNOW, VOTE TO. OH, WAIT. YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU. TAKES US TO OUR NEXT ITEM VARIANCE 62 2024. CAN WE HEAR FROM STAFF, PLEASE. THANK YOU. THIS, SECOND PROPERTY WILL ALSO BE IN THE NOTTINGHAM SUBDIVISION. THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY VACANT AND IT IS LOCATED WEST OF NOTTINGHAM LOOP, RIGHT HERE AND NORTH OF PARKSIDE DRIVE. AS HIGHLIGHTED. HIGHLIGHTED IN RED. THE APPLICANT SEEKS A VARIANCE TO BUILD A HOME WITHOUT A FRONT PORCH, WHICH IS REQUIRED BY THE NOTTINGHAM TREES ZONING TEXT AND THE PROPERTY OWNER SEEKS A LARGER SUNROOM, WHICH LEAVES 
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INSUFFICIENT SPACE FOR A COVERED PORCH WITHOUT ENCROACHING ONTO SETBACKS AND UTILITY EASEMENTS. 
          HISTORICALLY, THE CITY BOARDS HAVE NOT APPROVED SUCH VARIANCES FOR CONSTRUCTION AND UTILITY EASEMENTS. DURING THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN PROCESS, THE PLANNING COMMISSION REQUIRED FRONT PORCH PORCHES ON PROMINENT STREETS, AS SHOWN IN RED ON THIS SLIDE HERE, INCLUDING PARKSIDE DRIVE. THIS IS BECAUSE THE DESIGN OF THE HOME IS NOT A TYPICAL STANDARD FOR NEW ALBANY. 
          TO ENHANCE THE ARCHITECTURAL QUALITY AND REDUCE THE VISUAL IMPACT OF DOUBLE BAY GARAGE DOORS, THEY REQUIRED FRONT PORCHES TO EMPHASIZE AND FRAME THE FRONT DOORS. THE VARIANCE APPEARS TO BE SUBSTANTIAL IN CHANGING THE STREET DESIGN OF THE SUBDIVISION. ALTERING THE DESIGN WOULD CONSEQUENTLY CHANGE THE CHARACTER OF THE STREET SUBSTANTIALLY BY REMOVING THE PORCH. THE HOME DESIGN IS INCONSISTENT WITH NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES AND ARCHITECTURAL QUALITY, BECAUSE WITHOUT A FRONT PORCH, IT EMPHASIZES THE GARAGE DOORS WHICH FRONTS ONTO THE PUBLIC STREET. THE VARIANCE COULD BE SOLVED IN ANOTHER MANNER BY CHANGING THE FLOOR PLAN. DESIGN. THE NOTTINGHAM TREE SUBDIVISION HAS NUMEROUS PRE-APPROVED BUILDING AND FLOOR PLAN DESIGNS, AND THE SUNROOM COULD BE DESIGNED SO THAT IT IS WIDER AND LESS DEEP, OR AND THE REAR YARD, PATIO OR OTHER UNUSED BACKYARD SPACE. KIND OF LIKE THIS CORNER HERE COULD ACCOMMODATE A LARGER SUNROOM OF THE SAME PROPORTION. THIS COULD ALSO ALLOW THE SUNROOM AND THE FRONT COVERED PATIO. I MEAN FRONT COVERED PORCH. IT DOES NOT APPEAR THAT THE LITERAL INTERPRETATION OF THE PROVISIONS OF THE CODE WOULD DEPRIVE THE APPLICANT OF RIGHTS COMMONLY ENJOYED BY OTHER PROPERTIES, BECAUSE THIS VARIANCE SEEKS APPROVAL FOR A LARGER SUNROOM EXTENSION AT THE REAR OF THE HOME, EXTENDING 13FT COMPARED TO THE TYPICAL SEVEN FEET AS STATED BY THE APPLICANT, 79% OF THE HOMES IN NOTTINGHAM HAVE A SUNROOM. THIS PROPERTY COULD HAVE A STANDARD SIZE ONE WITHOUT AN EXTENSION. THERE DOES NOT APPEAR TO BE ANY SPECIAL CONDITIONS AND CIRCUMSTANCES THAT EXIST, WHICH ARE PECULIAR TO THE LAND OR STRUCTURE, BECAUSE THE PROPERTY HAS SIMILAR CHARACTERISTICS OF OTHER NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES, WITH EASEMENTS AND UTILITIES THAT PROHIBIT ENCROACHMENTS, THE DEVELOPERS HOMES DO NOT MEET THE CITY'S ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS, SO THE SUBDIVISION IS EXEMPT FROM THE CITY'S DESIGN GUIDELINES. DESIGN GUIDELINES AND REQUIREMENTS. TO ENSURE THE HOME IS STILL IN LINE WITH THE SPIRIT OF THE DESIGN GUIDELINES AND REQUIREMENTS SPECIFIC REGULATIONS WERE SET BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION, WHICH REQUIRED FRONT PORCHES ON PARKSIDE DRIVE TO HIGHLIGHT ENTRYWAYS AND REDUCE THE VISUAL IMPACT OF DOUBLE BAY GARAGE DOORS. A SMALLER, TYPICAL SUNROOM COULD FIT ON THE LOT, ALLOWING FOR THE INCLUSION OF A COVERED FRONT PORCH, AND AT THIS TIME, CITY STAFF WILL TAKE QUESTIONS. ANY ENGINEERING? NO ENGINEERING. THANK YOU. 
          QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. CAN WE HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT, PLEASE? OKAY GOOD EVENING. SORRY, THAT'S VERY LOUD, NIKKI MARTIN, PULTE HOMES OF OHIO, 475 METRO PLACE, SOUTH DUBLIN, GOOD EVENING, CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION. APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS A UNIQUE REQUEST, AND ONE WE TYPICALLY WOULD NOT BRING BEFORE YOU, I DO RECOGNIZE THAT THIS PROSPECTIVE PROPERTY OWNER DOES HAVE A WIDE VARIETY OF FLOOR PLANS THAT THEY COULD CHOOSE FROM. THIS FLOOR PLAN ON LOT 145 HAPPENS TO BE THE ONE THAT THEY CHOSE, THROUGH DISCUSSIONS WITH THE PROSPECTIVE HOMEOWNER DUE TO THE FACT THAT WE NO LONGER HAVE ANY LOTS AVAILABLE IN NOTTINGHAM. TRACE, THEY DECIDED THAT THEY WANTED TO WAIT. THE TWO ISH MONTHS TO APPEAR BEFORE THIS COMMISSION IN ORDER TO ASK THE QUESTION IF THEY COULD HAVE THE HOME THAT THEY DESIRE WITH THE AMENITIES THAT THEY DESIRE ON THE LOT THAT'S AVAILABLE. SO, RECOGNIZING THAT THERE ARE CERTAINLY A VARIETY OF OPTIONS, I DO WANT TO DISCUSS, WHY PULTE THOUGHT IT WAS WORTH ASKING THE QUESTION, THIS LOT WITHIN NOTTINGHAM TRACE IS ON PARKSIDE DRIVE, WHICH DOES HAVE, THREE ARCHITECTURAL REQUIREMENTS ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT I'LL CALL A STANDARD LOT. THE FIRST BEING THAT THE GARAGE CANNOT PROTRUDE FORWARD OF THE BUILDING. THE PROPOSAL CONTINUES TO MEET THAT REQUIREMENT. THE SECOND ARCHITECTURAL REQUIREMENT THAT THIS LOT HAS IS THAT IT APPEAR 
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TO BE ONE AND A HALF STORIES, WHICH WE DO THROUGH DORMERS. THE ARCHITECTURAL ELEVATION CONTINUES TO MEET THAT REQUIREMENT AS WELL. SO THIS IS REALLY A REQUEST TO DEVIATE ON ONLY ONE OF THE THREE ARCHITECTURAL REQUIREMENTS, BECAUSE IT IS OUR INTENT TO UPHOLD THE CHARACTER OF THIS COMMUNITY. THESE LOTS ARE UNIQUE BECAUSE THEY FACE OTHER HOMES, AND THEY'RE NOT OPEN TO AN OPEN SPACE OR THE CLUBHOUSE. SO THE PROMINENCE OF THAT ELEVATION AND THE DISTANCE OF THE VISTA OR VIEW YOU CAN GET OF THE FRONT PORCH IS LESS THAN GREAT. IF YOU WERE STANDING IN AN OPEN SPACE AND YOU COULD SEE ALL THE FRONT PORCHES, WHICH CONTRIBUTED TO OUR SUPPORT FOR AT LEAST CONSIDERING THIS REQUEST, ADDITIONALLY, THE LOT IS 120FT DEEP. AS MENTIONED BY STAFF, THE DEVELOPMENT TEXT ADDRESSES THIS THROUGH VARIOUS SETBACKS. 120FT IS THE SHALLOWEST LOT. LOTS IN THIS COMMUNITY DO EXTEND UP TO 150FT IN DEPTH, IN REGARDS TO A MODIFIED DESIGN, THIS SUNROOM IS THE STANDARD SUNROOM THAT'S OFFERED ON THE SONOYA PRODUCT. 
          THE PRODUCT SHOWN ON THE SCREEN IS A DIFFERENT HOME. SO IF THE OWNER HAD WANTED TO SELECT A DIFFERENT HOME, THEY COULD HAVE AND IT WOULD HAVE A DIFFERENT SIZE SUNROOM IN A DIFFERENT LOCATION, WITH THAT, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, THIS IS AN AMENITY THAT'S COMMONLY ENJOYED. SO. YEAH THANK YOU. QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION. ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS? I MOVE FOR ACCEPTANCE OF THE STAFF REPORT AND RELATED DOCUMENTS INTO THE RECORD, AND NOTING THAT WE WERE HANDED A LETTER AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING. DO I HEAR A SECOND FOR THE DOCUMENTS? I'LL SECOND THAT. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE DOCUMENTS? MOTION DO THE ROLL, PLEASE, MR. KIRBY. YES. MR. SHELL. YES. MISS BRIGGS. YES. MR. LAWSON. YES. THE MOTION PASSES. THERE ARE FOUR VOTES IN FAVOR OF ADMISSION OF THE DOCUMENTS, INCLUDING THE LETTER THAT WAS DISTRIBUTED THIS EVENING. I MOVE APPROVAL. VARIANCE 62, 2024. BASED ON WHAT'S IN THE STAFF REPORT. AND THERE ARE NO CONDITIONS. DO I HEAR A SECOND? SECOND. TAKE ONE. 
          GO AHEAD. BRUCE. I'LL TAKE IT. OKAY. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? ON THE VARIANCE? COULD YOU THE ROLL, PLEASE? MR. KIRBY? NO. MR. LAWSON. NO MR. SHELL. NO MISS BRIGGS. NO THE MOTION FAILS. THERE ARE FOUR VOTES AGAINST IT GOING THROUGH. YOU'RE WELCOME. GOING THROUGH THE DUNCAN CRITERIA. ASIDE FROM FOUR AND 12, THIS WHICH DON'T APPLY HERE. I THINK IT FAILS ON ALL THE REST OF THE 12 DUNCAN CRITERIA. I'LL SECOND THAT. AGREED. SAME HERE. OKAY. TAKES US TO VARIANCE 63 2024. CAN I HEAR FROM STAFF, PLEASE? AT THE .22 ACRE PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN THE WOODHAVEN SUBDIVISION AND CONTAINS A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL HOME. THE APPLICANT REQUESTS A VARIANCE TO THE WOODHAVEN RECORDED PLAT TO ALLOW A DECK TO ENCROACH TWO FEET INTO A 20 FOOT PLATTED DRAINAGE EASEMENT, AS SHOWN HERE ON THE SITE. PLAN DEPICTED BY THE ORANGE DASHED LINE. FOR BACKGROUND, THE APPLICANT DID RECEIVE A PERMIT FOR CONSTRUCTION. HOWEVER, AN ADDITIONAL TWO FEET WAS ADDED TO THE DECK DURING CONSTRUCTION. 
          THE APPLICANT NOTIFIED STAFF OF THE ENCROACHMENT AND STAFF DIRECTED THEM TO APPLY FOR A VARIANCE. HERE IS A PICTURE OF THE DECK INDICATING THE TWO FEET OVERHANG. THE FOOTERS ARE OUTSIDE OF THE DRAINAGE EASEMENT, SO ONLY THE OVERHANG ENCROACHES INTO IT WITH NO CONSTRUCTION ON THE GROUND WITHIN THE EASEMENT. IMPORTANTLY, WITH THE FOOTERS OUTSIDE OF THE EASEMENT THERE. THIS WILL NOT AFFECT THE SURFACE FLOW OF STORMWATER. THE VARIANCE DOES NOT APPEAR TO BE SUBSTANTIAL. THE CITY'S ENGINEERING STAFF REVIEWED THE APPLICATION AND CONFIRMED THAT THERE ARE NO PUBLIC UTILITIES INSTALLED IN THE EASEMENT ON THE LOT IN QUESTION. ADDITIONALLY, THE DECKS FOOTERS ARE OUTSIDE OF THE EASEMENT, SO THERE IS NO PART OF THE STRUCTURE OCCUPYING THE EASEMENT ON THE GROUND. IF APPROVED, STAFF WILL STAMP PLANS WITH A HOLD HARMLESS AGREEMENT NOTIFYING THE PROPERTY OWNER THAT THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE EXPENSE OF REPLACING OR REPAIRING THE STRUCTURE. IF A UTILITY PROVIDER SHOULD REMOVE IT. LASTLY, THE APPLICANT STATES THAT THE DECK SITS FOUR FEET ABOVE GRADE ON POST, WHICH REQUIRES THE AREA UNDER THE DECK TO BE SCREENED. IF APPROVED, STAFF RECOMMENDS A CONDITION OF APPROVAL THAT THE APPLICANT PROVIDE SCREENING UNDERNEATH THE DECK OUTSIDE OF THE DRAINAGE 
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EASEMENT. AND I'M HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. ENGINEERING. NO ADDITIONAL COMMENTS. THANK YOU. ANY ISSUES WITH ANY OF THE NEIGHBORS? NO. THANK YOU. THAT HAS IT ON THE LAST ONE. YEAH. AND ON THE NEIGHBORS. JUST THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED, RIGHT? THEY WOULD HAVE RECEIVED A LETTER. YES. ALL THE NEIGHBORS WERE NOTIFIED, BUT A LOT OF THEM ARE NOT SOLD YET. 
          SO THE APPLICANT IS MOST OF THE NEIGHBORS. OKAY. DO WE HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT? PLEASE. HELLO, I'M BRANDON BELL WITH BOB WEBB HOMES, YES. THIS WAS A MISUNDERSTANDING OF GOING INTO CONTRACT WITH THE CUSTOMER, NOT UNDERSTANDING, YOU KNOW, ALBANY RULE ON A DRAINAGE EASEMENT. 
          TYPICALLY, YOU KEEP ALL THE STRUCTURES OUT OF IT, BUT A CANTILEVER, IS ALWAYS BEEN TYPICALLY ALLOWED WHERE WE'VE BUILT IN THE PAST. AND, WE DO OWN ALL THE OTHER LOTS ALONG THERE. WE UNDERSTAND THE RULE AT THIS POINT. NO PATIOS, NO NOTHING CAN BE IN THAT AREA. BUT WITH WHAT WAS SOLD TO THIS CUSTOMER AND THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE IS NOTHING BUT SURFACE WATER THAT WILL BE FLOWING THROUGH THAT DRAINAGE EASEMENT, YOU KNOW, WE THEY HAD ASKED IF WE COULD, YOU KNOW, GIVE THEM A LITTLE BIGGER LIVING AREA FOR THE HOME THAN WHAT WAS GOING TO BE GIVEN. SO THEY SORT OF HANDICAPPED A LITTLE BIT. WHEN WE WENT IN FOR ZONING, WE GAVE A 20 FOOT TREE PRESERVE, WHICH WE WANTED TO GIVE AND KEEP THERE. AND THEN WE HAD TO START THE DRAINAGE EASEMENT IN ANOTHER 20FT. SO IT SORT OF HANDICAPPED THIS A LITTLE BIT ON THOSE LOTS AS FAR AS OUTDOOR LIVING. BUT, THAT'S WHERE THIS TWO FOOT IS COMING FROM. OKAY THANK YOU. 
          QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION. IS THAT TWO FOOT EXTENSION? IS THAT A SITTING AREA OF THE DECK? YES. YES. SO WHAT IF YOU TOOK THAT OUT? WHAT HAPPENS IF THE DECK GETS SMALLER? REMIND US THE DIMENSIONS OF IT. THE DIMENSIONS OF THE DECK. YEAH. I APOLOGIZE, I DON'T KNOW. SIERRA. SORRY YES? I NEED YOU TO REPEAT YOUR NAME INTO THE MIC SO THAT STAFF GETS IT. THANK YOU. DENNIS ALSO, BOB WEBB, THANK YOU. IT LOOKS TO BE 15FT WIDE. YEAH. 15 BY. IS IT? YEAH SEVEN. THERE'LL BE A DECK. 
          ABOUT. OH COVERED BY THE UNCOVERED DECK. IS ABOUT SIX FEET. ABOUT 15 BY SIX. YES, 15 BY SIX. WITH THE UNCOVERED 14. THERE'S ALSO THE COVERED PORTION. ANDREW, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? OH, I WAS JUST I THINK I WAS TRYING TO UNDERSTAND MY MIC IS ON. HOPEFULLY YOU CAN HEAR ME. IF YOU FELT THAT THE DECK WOULD BE USABLE IF THERE WERE TWO, IT WAS TWO FEET SHORTER. THE PART OUTSIDE OF THAT AREA THAT'S COVERED WOULD BE MAYBE A COUPLE CHAIRS WOULD BE VERY HARD TO GET A TABLE WITH ANY CHAIRS AROUND IT. WITHOUT THAT TWO FOOT EXTENSION. OKAY BUT THE COVERED PORTION, THERE COULD BE A TABLE AND CHAIRS. CORRECT. LIKE THERE'S A SUBSTANTIAL PIECE THAT IS STILL. THAT IS PART OF IT. THAT'S NOT OUT IN THE. THAT WOULD BE COVERED, CORRECT? YES. OTHER QUESTIONS. ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WITH QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? I MOVE TO ACCEPT THE STAFF REPORTS AND RELATED DOCUMENTS INTO THE RECORD FOR VARIANCE 63. DO I HEAR A SECOND ON THE MOTION? SECOND. AND ANY DISCUSSION ON THE DOCUMENTS? GO TO THE ROLL, PLEASE. MR. KIRBY? YES, MISS BRIGGS? YES. MR. LARSON? YES. MR. SHELL. YES. 
          MOTION PASSES. THERE ARE FOUR VOTES TO ADMIT THE DOCUMENT TO YOUR MOTION FOR THE VARIANCE ITSELF. I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE VARIANCE 632024 PER THE STAFF REPORT, WHICH IS. THE COMMENTS 
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OF THE SCREEN AND UNDERNEATH THERE. SO THE FIVE CONDITIONS IN THE STAFF REPORT THERE'S A FIVE CONDITION. YOU HAVE FIVE CONDITION RIGHT. THERE SHOULD JUST BE ONE CONDITION. OH I'M SORRY. YEAH. JUST THE ONE CONDITION WITH THE SCREENING OF THE PORCH. OH, HANG ON, LET ME GET TO THE RIGHT PAGE. OH, THERE WE GO. SORRY DO I HEAR A SECOND? SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE VARIANCE ITSELF? MOTION. ON THE MOTION FOR THE VARIANCE ITSELF. DO THE ROLL, PLEASE. MR. LARSON. 
          NO. MISS BRIGGS. NO. MR. KIRBY. NO MR. SHELL. NO THE MOTION FAILS WITH ZERO VOTES IN FAVOR AND FOUR VOTES AGAINST. MY REASON IS THERE'S A SOLUTION. THAT THE DECK IS STILL USABLE EVEN WITHOUT THE VARIANCE. AND IT'S NOT NEEDED. AND IT SETS A PRECEDENCE THAT WOULD BE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. YEAH, I JUST AGREE WITH THAT. AND AGAIN, THAT WHOLE PRECEDENT THING, ONCE WE ONCE WE GO DOWN THAT PATH, IT'S REALLY HARD TO SAY NO IN THE FUTURE, EVEN THOUGH YOU SAY WE WON'T DO IT. WE'RE OUR HANDS ARE TIED. IF YOU DO, DO IT. YEAH. NO, I UNDERSTAND, AND SIERRA HAD MENTIONED THAT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE OF UNDERGROUND UTILITIE, THERE'S A REASON WHY IF PEOPLE HAVE TO GET IN THERE AND WORK, THAT THAT IS A REASON. AND BEHIND THE SLOT, THERE IS NO UNDERGROUND UTILITIES. IT IS STRICTLY JUST SURFACE WATER, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, DRAINING THER. 
          THERE'S NOTHING THERE. YEAH. THERE'S NO UNDERGROUND UTILITIES TODAY. CORRECT. MY UNDERSTANDING IS IT WAS JUST FOR THE DRAINAGE EASEMENT PART, NOT NECESSARILY FOR A UTILITY EASEMENT SECTION. 
          IT'S FOR THE DRAINAGE EASEMENT THAT WE HAD TO STAY OUT OF. BUT BUT THE POINT HE'S MAKING IS THAT ANY UTILITY COULD COME AT ANY TIME. RIGHT. AS, NEIL. WHAT? YOU'RE KIND OF THE PATH THAT YOU'RE GOING DOWN. DRAINAGE AND UTILITY EASEMENT. THEN IT IS AVAILABLE FOR UTILITIES SHOULD THEY NEED IT. THE DRAINAGE EASEMENT IS THAT IS MAINLY JUST FOR DRAINAGE. SO THERE WOULD BE SOME UTILITIES THAT WOULD BE RESTRICTED FROM THAT AREA AS WELL. BUT STILL TO YOUR POINT. 
          THANK YOU. I ALSO FIND IT DOESN'T MEET THE DUNCAN CRITERIA IN PARTICULAR. THE ONE ABOUT, GIVING THE APPLICANT A CERTAIN SOMETHING THAT IS NOT CONFERRED TO OTHERS IN THE SAME ZONING DISTRICT. AND I CONCUR AS WELL. BOTH ON THE PRECEDENT PIECE. BUT THEN ALSO BRUCE NOTED AND THAT IS THAT THE COVERED PORTION OF THE DECK IS OBVIOUSLY USABLE. AND WITH THAT, WE'RE DOING THE HAMLET. SO I LIKE I'M HEARING FOR FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN 53 2024. HAMLET. CAN WE HEAR FROM STAFF? YES. BEFORE I GET STARTED, I DO NEED TO SWITCH SOME PRESENTATIONS OVER REALLY QUICK. AND THEN THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD DID HEAR THIS APPLICATION LAST WEEK DURING THEIR MEETING AND RECOMMEND RECOMMENDS APPROVAL TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, THEY DID HAVE SOME CONDITIONS THAT WERE INCLUDED IN THEIR MOTION. I HAVE THIS PRINTED OUT. I'M GOING TO GET UP AND SHARE THOSE WITH YOU HERE IN JUST A SECOND. BEAR WITH ME FOR JUST A MOMENT. GO FOR IT. HERE. IT IS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THE FIRST REQUEST THIS YEAR. THANKS. 
          OKAY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE. THERE SO, AS YOU MENTIONED, THIS IS A FINAL DEVELOPMENT APPLICATION FOR THE HAMLET DEVELOPMENT PROJECT, JUST IN CASE ANYONE IS UNFAMILIAR WITH WHERE THIS IS AT, THIS SITE IS LOCATED AT THE SOUTHWEST AND SOUTHEAST CORNERS OF THE 605 AND CENTRAL COLLEGE ROAD INTERSECTION, HOPEFULLY YOU ALL FOUND YOUR BINDERS TO BE USEFUL FOR THIS APPLICATION. AS YOU PROBABLY HAVE NOTICED, THIS IS, QUITE THE HAUL FOR AN APPLICATION. WE DON'T REALLY SEE APPLICATIONS THIS LARGE, SO I DO WANT TO THANK THE APPLICANT FOR WORKING WITH US TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WAS ALL PUT TOGETHER IN A NICE WAY TO PRESENT IT TO YOU GUYS, THERE ARE SOME EXTRA PACKETS BACK HERE AT THE BACK TABLE IF ANYONE NEEDS AN EXTRA COPY, AND THEN FOLKS AT HOME, IF YOU WANT TO VIEW THE SAME INFORMATION, WE HAVE TWO WAYS ON OUR WEBSITE THAT YOU CAN GAIN ACCESS TO THIS THE HAMLET WEBSITE. THERE'S QR CODES HERE ON YOUR SCREEN. YOU CAN FIND THE PACKET THERE WITH THE QR CODE ON YOUR LEFT. AND THEN IF YOU WANT TO SEE SOME CASE HISTORY WITH THIS APPLICATION AND OTHER APPLICATIONS THAT ARE HEARD BY 
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OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, YOU CAN USE THE DASHBOARD WHICH IS LINKED TO THE RIGHT. SO I KNOW THIS BOARD IS DEFINITELY, WELL FAMILIAR WITH THE HISTORY OF THIS PROJECT. AND KIND OF THE PROCESS THAT IT HAS TO GO THROUGH. BUT AGAIN, JUST FOR FOLKS AT HOME, I JUST WANT TO GO THROUGH THIS BRIEFLY FOR YOU. SO THIS PROJECT REALLY STARTED WITH THE ENGAGE MENOMINEE STRATEGIC PLAN BACK IN 2022. THE CITY CITY COUNCIL ADOPTED STANDARDS FOR A HAMLET, AND IN THE FORM OF A HAMLET. FOCUS, PLAN AND DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AND ARE ENGAGED IN ALL THESE STRATEGIC PLAN LATER IN 2022, CITY COUNCIL APPROVED A REZONING FOR THIS SITE TO ALLOW FOR A PROPOSED HAMLET DEVELOPMENT, TO BE CONSTRUCTED IN THIS AREA, ALL IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE STRATEGIC PLAN STANDARDS THAT WERE ADOPTED EARLIER IN THE YEAR. SO NOW WE ARE AT THE STEP HERE IN THIS THIS GREEN BOX HERE FOR A FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPLICATION, SO THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO SEEK APPROVAL OF THAT TONIGHT. THEY DO, PRIOR TO CONSTRUCTION. THEY DO HAVE TO RETURN TO THE TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL FOR REVIEW AND APPROVAL OF A FINAL PLAT, AS THEY MOVE THROUGH THE ENGINEERING PROCESS. SO ONCE THEY GAIN APPROVAL TONIGHT, THEY WILL START THE ENGINEERING. PERMITTING PROCESS, AND THEN MOST LIKELY GO BACK AND FINISH UP THEIR FINAL PLAT. ONCE THEY GET ALL THE EASEMENTS AND EVERYTHING IN PLACE, AND THEN THEY'LL BE ABLE TO START BUILDING PERMITS AND CONSTRUCTION. SO THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPLICATION FOR A HAMLET, THERE'S MULTIPLE BOARDS THAT HAS TO GO IN FRONT OF. SO THE PARKS AND TRAILS ADVISORY BOARD IS THE FIRST STOP THERE. AN ADVISORY BOARD THAT REVIEWS THE PROPOSED PARKLAND AND OPEN SPACE DESIGNATIONS AND MAKES A RECOMMENDATION TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON AUGUST FIFTH, THEY THE PARKS AND TRAILS ADVISORY BOARD DID REVIEW THIS APPLICATION AND RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION. THERE WAS A CONDITION OF APPROVAL THAT ADDITIONAL TRASH, RECYCLING AND DOGGY WASTE STATIONS BE ADDED IN THE PARKS AND OPEN SPACE AREAS. 
          THE APPLICANT HAS PROACTIVELY MET THAT REQUIREMENT BEFORE COMING BEFORE THE BOARD TONIGHT, SO THAT THAT CONDITION IS ADDRESSED. AND THEN LAST WEEK, THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD MET TO REVIEW THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPLICATION, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, I DID PUT THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL IN FRONT OF YOU. WE'LL GO OVER THOSE HERE IN A MINUTE. BUT THEY DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE APPLICATION WITH SOME CONDITIONS THAT WERE BY AND LARGE, IF NOT ALL, RELATED TO ARCHITECTURE, JUST TO WORK THOSE CONDITIONS WITH CITY STAFF AND THE CITY ARCHITECT AS WE MOVE THROUGH THE PERMITTING PROCESS. SO THEY REVIEWED THE APPLICATION AND MADE A RECOMMENDATION TO THIS GROUP HERE, THE PLANNING COMMISSION, FOR APPROVAL OF THE APPLICATION AND THE WAIVERS THAT ARE BEING REQUESTED. AND THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT TONIGHT IN THIS BLUE BOX HERE IN THE FAR RIGHT HAND SIDE OF YOUR SCREEN, TO GET THIS FINAL APPROVAL FOR THIS APPLICATION TYPE. SO JUST TO GIVE YOU JUST TO GIVE YOU GUYS A HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW HERE, THE APPLICANTS GOT LOTS OF FOLKS HERE TO TALK ABOUT THIS APPLICATION AND, FINER DETAIL. 
          SO I'LL JUST FOCUS ON KIND OF THE HIGHLIGHTS AND FOLLOWING THE OUTLINE OF OUR STAFF REPORT. SO THIS IS THE SITE PLAN. THIS IS A RENDERED SITE PLAN HERE. SO, THE SITE IS REALLY ORGANIZED AROUND THE SUGAR RUN PARK HERE, IN THE CENTER OF THE SITE. AND THEN THE MIXED USE COMMERCIAL CORE IS LOCATED IN THIS AREA. AND THEN WE HAVE DIFFERENT FORMS AND VARIATIONS OF RESIDENTIAL THAT KIND OF SURROUND THE OTHER SPACES. THIS THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND THE ZONING TEXT IS BROKEN UP INTO DIFFERENT SUB AREAS, WHICH WE'LL GO THROUGH HERE IN DETAIL IN A MINUTE, SUB AREA ONE AGAIN IS WHERE THE COMMERCIAL USES ARE ALLOWED, AS WELL AS THE FLATS BUILDING. SUB AREA TWO IS MADE UP OF TOWNHOMES. SUB AREA THREE IS A MIXTURE OF SINGLE FAMILY HOMES DUPLEXES AND THEN SUB. AREA FIVE IS ALL SINGLE FAMILY CUSTOM HOMES THAT WILL BE DEVELOPED IN THAT AREA. SIMILAR TO WHAT'S, YOU KNOW, HOW DIFFERENT SECTIONS OF THE COUNTRY CLUB HAVE DEVELOPED OVER THE YEARS? THOSE WILL ALL BE CUSTOM AND BUILT AS BUYERS PURCHASE THOSE LOTS. SO THIS IS THE PARK LAND AND OPEN SPACE SHEET, AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE ARE PLENTY OF LEISURE TRAIL AND SIDEWALK CONNECTIONS PROVIDED THROUGHOUT THE DEVELOPMENT, WE'VE REALLY WORKED HARD WITH THE DEVELOPER OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, ALL THESE CONNECTIONS MAKE SENSE, THAT THERE'S GREEN SPACE PROVIDED AND ALL THE DIFFERENT SUB AREAS AND EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THAT ALL OF THEM ARE CONNECTED WITH PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIONS, BOTH WITHIN THE SUB AREAS, BUT ALL LEADING DOWN TO THE CENTRAL PARK AREA. AND THEN THE MORE REGIONAL CONNECTIONS DOWN TOWARDS THE VILLAGE CENTER INTO THE LINKS AND SOME OF THE OTHER SUBDIVISIONS TO THE EAST. THE ZONING TEXT REQUIRES AND OUR CITY CODE REQUIRES, THAT A MINIMUM OF 25% PARKLAND AND OPEN SPACE HAS TO BE DEDICATED AS 
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PART OF THIS DEVELOPMENT TYPE. THE APPLICANT EXCEEDS THIS REQUIREMENT BY PROVIDING 33% OF THEIR ENTIRE SITE AS PARKLAND AND OPEN SPACE WITHIN THE CORE PARKLAND AND OPEN SPACE, THE SUGAR RUN PARK, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING SEVERAL AMENITIES, WHICH I'LL LET THEM TALK ABOUT HERE MORE IN DETAIL IN A MINUTE. BUT SOME HIGHLIGHTS, WE DO HAVE A PARK, PLAYGROUND OVER HERE ON THE EASTERN SIDE OF THE ROAD. THE APPLICANT HAS BEEN, OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS, BEEN PAYING VERY CLOSE ATTENTION TO THE INVESTMENTS THAT THE CITY COUNCIL HAS BEEN MAKING, AND A LOT OF OUR PARK, PARK UPGRADES AND IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS, YOU KNOW, BOTH IN WINDSOR, WHICH IS GETTING STARTED, THE LINKS AND SOME OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS IN OUR COMMUNITY HAVE ALL BEEN RECEIVING NEW EQUIPMENT AND SOME FACELIFTS TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE AREAS ARE ACCESSIBLE AND MEET THE NEEDS OF OUR COMMUNITY. SO SOME OF THE MODELS THAT THEY USED UP HERE FOR THE EQUIPMENT LINE, THEY'RE USING THE SAME LINE, THE EARTH SCAPES LINE THAT THE CITY HAS USED. AND OTHER PARKS. THEY'RE USING A BONDED RUBBER MULCH. AND, AND, THE BOTH THE PLAYGROUND AREA AND THERE'S ALSO A NATURE PLAY ELEMENT DOWN HERE. THEY'RE USING THE BONDED RUBBER MULCH AT OUR DIRECTION TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE AREAS ARE ADA ACCESSIBLE, SO THAT ANYONE WITH ANY LEVEL OF ABILITIES IS ABLE TO ACCESS AND ENJOY THESE AREAS, EQUALLY, THERE ARE BENCHES THAT ARE BEING PROVIDED THE, THE PLAY STRUCTURES OR THE, THE NATURE PLAY ELEMENTS ARE UNIQUELY SITUATED ON THE SITES TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE SHADE THAT IS PROVIDED BY THE VERY MATURE TREES THAT EXIST ALONG THE SUGAR RUN CORRIDOR, YOU KNOW, SHADE IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE HEARD A LOT FROM PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, REGARDING OUR, OUR, OUR DIFFERENT PARKS AND PLAYGROUNDS AND THE COMMUNITY JUST NEEDING MORE OF SHADE. SO THEY'VE AGAIN BEEN LISTENING AND SITUATED THOSE, THOSE EQUIPMENT PIECES TO KIND OF ADDRESS THAT PREEMPTIVELY, SOME BIKE RACKS WILL BE PROVIDED, IN, IN THE AREA. SOME BENCHES AND THERE'S SOME DIFFERENT PUBLIC ART PIECES THAT WILL BE, PROVIDED IN THE AREA. BUT I'LL LET THE APPLICANT TALK ABOUT THAT HERE IN A SECOND. SO I DON'T STEAL ALL THEIR THUNDER. JUSTIN'S GOING TO START LOOKING AT ME HERE IN A SECOND. SO TALKING ABOUT STREETS A LITTLE BIT. SO WE MANIPULATED THIS IMAGE A LITTLE BIT TO KIND OF HIGHLIGHT THE DIFFERENT STREET SECTIONS. THAT WILL BE THAT'LL BE CONSTRUCTED IN THIS AREA. AND LABELED THEM. THESE ARE EXHIBITS IN YOUR STAFF BINDERS, THIS IS A LITTLE BIT HARD TO SEE, BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, WE ACHIEVE, A SIDEWALK OR LEISURE TRAIL, A TREE LAWN AND STREET TREES ON ALL OF OUR STREET ELEVATIONS, THROUGHOUT THE DEVELOPMENT. ONE THING I DID WANT TO POINT OUT FOR EVERYONE, IF, IN CASE YOU NOTICED IT, THE CITY HAS REQUESTED THAT THE DEVELOPER, SHOW IMPROVED AND IMPROVED STREETSCAPE ALONG 605 TO INCLUDE ON STREET PARKING, AND ENHANCED PEDESTRIAN EXPERIENCE AND BURIAL OF REGIONAL POWER LINES. I DO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE BOARD IS AWARE THAT THOSE, THOSE WERE REQUESTED BY THE CITY. THOSE ARE CITY PROJECTS. THEY HAVE NOT BEEN FULLY FUNDED AS OF TODAY. BUT AS IT IS THE CITY'S DESIRE TO HAVE THOSE INSTALLED. BUT THAT IS A, YOU KNOW, A COMPLETELY SEPARATE PROJECT THAN THAN WHAT THE DEVELOPER IS IN FRONT OF YOU FOR TONIGHT. SO ANOTHER STREET SECTION SHOWING THAT 605, IT'S HARD TO SEE. WE TRIED TO PUT THESE UP A LITTLE BIT, BUT, THERE'S THOSE SECTIONS. SO NEXT I'LL WALK THROUGH ALL THE ARCHITECTURE ON A SUB AREA BY SUB AREA BASIS. SO THIS IS SUB AREA ONE HIGHLIGHTED HERE FOR YOU. BEFORE I GET INTO ALL OF IT, JUST KIND OF A BLANKET STATEMENT ABOUT ARCHITECTURE. THE CITY ARCHITECT HAS BEEN THE APPLICANT HAS, DONE REALLY WELL TO MEET WITH THE CITY ARCHITECT ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS LEADING UP TO THE SUBMITTAL. THEY ACTUALLY WHICH IS THIS BOARD CAN, CAN ATTEST TO IT'S VERY RARE THAT AN APPLICANT WOULD COME TO A MEETING WITH EVERY SINGLE, YOU KNOW, COMMENT OR CONDITION. MET THAT THE CITY ARCHITECT HAD. SO THEY'VE MET WITH DAVID ON SEVERAL, SEVERAL OCCASIONS, GETTING IN VERY FINE DETAIL AS THEY'LL TALK ABOUT HERE IN A MINUTE, TOO. BUT I JUST HAD TO SAY THAT OUT LOUD. SO THIS IS THE ARCHITECTURE. 
          THIS IS THE IN SUB AREA ONE. THIS IS THE COMMERCIAL PIECE HERE. THEY'RE ACHIEVING THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE ZONING DISTRICT. THEY'RE ACHIEVING FOUR SIDED, VERY, VERY HIGH QUALITY ARCHITECTURE, THROUGHOUT THE DEVELOPMENT. BUT THIS, THIS ONE SPECIFICALLY AS WELL HERE WITH THE COMMERCIAL PIECE. THIS IS THE FLATS BUILDING, AGAIN, VERY, VERY HIGH QUALITY LEVEL OF ARCHITECTURE, ON ALL FOUR SIDES OF THE BUILDING. THE SITE THIS BUILDING SPECIFICALLY IS VERY UNIQUE AS IT HAS REALLY TWO FRONTS. IT HAS A FRONT ON THE MAIN SPINE ROAD HERE, IN THE DEVELOPMENT, BUT IT ALSO IS REALLY UNIQUE POSITION TO FRONT ONTO THE CREEK THERE. SO WE REALLY WORKED WITH THEM WITH THE CITY ARCHITECT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE ADDRESSING BOTH OF THOSE 
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FRONTAGES APPROPRIATELY. AND THEY HAVE ACCOMPLISHED THAT DESIGN BY PROVIDING FRONT DOORS, ON ALL FOUR SIDES OF THE BUILDING AND ACHIEVING THE SAME CALIBER OF DESIGN ON ALL FOUR SIDES OF THE BUILDING, AS WELL. SUB AREA TWO ARE OUR TOWNHOMES. I'LL FLIP THROUGH A FEW OF THESE HERE. AGAIN, VERY SIMILAR COMMENTS. HIGH MARKS FROM OUR CITY ARCHITECT ABOUT ACHIEVING VERY, VERY HIGH QUALITY LEVEL DESIGN. SUB AREA THREE. THIS IS ON THE EAST SIDE OF 605. THIS IS WHERE. SO THE ZONING TEXT FOR THE HAMLET, JUST WANT TO POINT THIS OUT TO JUST TO HELP GUIDE THE CONVERSATION. THE ZONING TEXT FOR THE HAMLET ALLOWS CREATIVE AND UNIQUE, DIFFERENT OR CREATIVE AND UNIQUE ARCHITECTURAL STYLES TO BE DEVELOPED IN THE ZONING DISTRICT TO KIND OF CONTRIBUTE TO THE FEEL OF A HAMLET, YOU KNOW, QUAINT, A QUAINT PLACE, VERSUS TRYING TO ADHERE TO, YOU KNOW, A VERY STRICT PROTOCOL OF ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN OR ALLOWED TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE EXPRESSION AND DIFFERENT VARIATIONS OF STYLES, ACHIEVED IN THIS AREA. SO THIS IS SUB AREA THREE. SO THIS IS THE VIEW YOU WOULD SEE ALONG 605 CENTRAL COLLEGE. THIS IS INSIDE THE DEVELOPMENT. AND THIS IS ALSO INSIDE THE DEVELOPMENT AS WELL. 
          SO SUB FIVE AGAIN THIS IS GOING TO BE DEVELOPED VERY VERY SIMILARLY. ALMOST EVEN LOOKS LIKE ELY IF YOU LOOK AT IT. BUT IT WILL BE DEVELOPED VERY SIMILAR TO ELY AND OTHER SECTIONS OF OUR COUNTRY CLUB, YOU KNOW THE LINK SUBDIVISION, QUITE A FEW SUBDIVISIONS FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVES. YOU KNOW, A CERTAIN SET OF ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS AND THEN, WE VERIFY THAT THOSE ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS ARE BEING MET THROUGH THE PERMITTING PROCESS WITH THE CITY ARCHITECT. THAT WILL BE THE SAME APPROACH FOR SUB AREA FIVE, WHERE THEY'LL BE COMPLETELY CUSTOM LOTS, CUSTOM HOME DESIGNS THAT ARE REALLY DRIVEN BY THE NEEDS OF THE END USER, BUT AGAIN, WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF THE, ALL OF THOSE REQUIREMENTS ARE MET THROUGH THE PERMITTING PROCESS. THEY DID SUBMIT AN ARCHITECTURAL NARRATIVE FOR THE ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT, BUT ALSO SPECIFICALLY FOR SUB AREA FIVE, JUST SHOWING SOME CHARACTER IMAGES SIMILAR TO WHAT THE NEW ALBANY COMPANY HAS DONE FOR THEIR THEIR COUNTRY CLUB SECTIONS. JUST SHOWING WHAT THE DESIGN INTENT IS FOR THIS, THIS NEIGHBORHOOD OR FOR SUB FIVE SPECIFICALLY. SO LASTLY, I WANT TO TOUCH ON THE WAIVERS. SO SEVERAL WAIVERS WERE SUBMITTED AS PART OF THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPLICATION. I DO WANT TO MAKE NOTE JUST BECAUSE IT IS THIS THE WAIVER. THEY ARE WAIVERS. THEY'RE NOT VARIANCES. AND THE CRITERIA FOR WAIVERS IS A LOT DIFFERENT THAN THE CRITERIA FOR THE DUNCAN FACTORS FOR VARIANCE APPLICATIONS. SO THIS IS THE CRITERIA THAT THE BOARD FOR THE ZONING TEXT ARE. THIS IS THE CRITERIA THAT THE BOARD SHOULD USE TO EVALUATE THESE REQUESTS, FOR THIS APPLICATION. SO I'LL WALK THROUGH THESE WITH YOU HERE. BUT THE APPLICANT WILL WALK THROUGH THEM WITH YOU IN MUCH GREATER DETAIL. BUT JUST TO PROVIDE SOME HIGHLIGHTS FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE AND THE STAFF REPORT. SO WAIVER A IS TO ALLOW FOR FOOT SIDEWALKS ALONG PUBLIC STREETS AND VERY LIMITED LOCATIONS. THE LIMITED LOCATION WOULD BE ALONG THIS INTERNAL. THE INSIDE OF THIS INTERNAL STREET HERE AND SUBAREA FIVE ALONG BOTH SIDES OF THIS INTERNAL STREET AND SUBAREA THREE AND THEN MAYBE VERY VERY TINY PORTIONS OF THIS LITTLE LOOP. MOST OF THIS IS GOING TO BE ON PRIVATE PROPERTY, SO THEY CAN BE FOUR FEET, BUT THERE MIGHT BE PORTIONS WHERE IT INTERSECTS WITH PUBLIC, PUBLIC SIDEWALK WHERE IT WOULD NEED TO BE FOUR FEET IN SIZE, YOU KNOW, OVERALL STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF THAT WAIVER REQUEST. WE BELIEVE THAT IT PROVIDES AN APPROPRIATE PATTERN OF DESIGN. THE APPLICANT, THEIR GOAL IS TO CREATE IN THOSE SPECIFIC AREAS, CREATE A DESIGN, EMULATE A DESIGN THAT'S BEEN ACHIEVED IN MANY DIFFERENT AREAS OF THE COMMUNITY THROUGHOUT THE NEW ALBANY COUNTRY CLUB. THERE'S, YOU KNOW, WHEN THERE'S NARROW STREETS AND SMALLER SETBACKS AND SMALLER LOTS WE'VE APPROVED, STANDARDS TO ALLOW FOR FOOT SIDEWALKS TO BE INSTALLED. AN EXAMPLE THAT COMES OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD IS ELLIE ASHTON GROVE AND MANY, MANY OTHER SECTIONS OF THE COUNTRY CLUB HAVE WHERE THERE ARE SIDEWALKS, HAVE REDUCED, SIDEWALK SIZES, LET'S SEE, WAIVER B, WHERE ARE YOU? I'M SORRY. OH, HERE WE GO. SO WAIVER B RIGHT HERE. THIS IS A WAIVER. SO THE ZONING TEXT STATES THAT ONLY TOWNHOMES ARE ALLOWED TO FRONT ONTO STATE ROUTE 605 AND SUBAREA THREE. SO THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO INSIST ON THESE TWO LOTS JUST DUE TO KIND OF SPACING AND SIZING AND TRYING TO PROTECT THIS, THIS PARKLAND AND OPEN SPACE HERE AND CREATE A REALLY STRONG, ARCHITECTURAL PRESENCE AT THE ENTRANCE OF THIS, THIS DEVELOPMENT. THEY PROPOSE TO HAVE TWO SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ON THESE LOTS HERE, YOU KNOW, FROM 
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STAFF'S PERSPECTIVE, YOU KNOW, WE REALLY BELIEVE THAT THE INTENT OF THAT REQUIREMENT WAS JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE WAS A STRONG ARCHITECTURAL PRESENCE ACHIEVED ALONG THAT ENTIRE STRETCH OF THAT ROADWAY. THAT CAN STILL BE ACCOMPLISHED. AND THE APPLICANT HAS DEMONSTRATED HOW THAT CAN BE ACCOMPLISHED WITH SINGLE FAMILY HOMES INSTEAD OF JUST TOWNHOMES, THE ARCHITECTURE REVIEW BOARD DID, APPROVE OR MOVE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF ALL THESE WAIVERS. 
          THIS ONE SPECIFICALLY, IT WAS A VOTE OF FIVE TWO. THE TWO DISSENTING MEMBERS BELIEVE THAT THERE WERE OTHER, YOU KNOW, TOWNHOMES, YOU KNOW, COULD BE PROVIDED THERE WITHOUT A PROBLEM OR THEY SHOULD BE PROVIDED THERE TO PROVIDE MORE OF THAT ARCHITECTURAL PRESENCE ALONG THAT STREET, AND THEN THERE WERE SOME COMMENTS ABOUT JUST MAKING SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THIS COULD JUST BE USED AS PARKS AND OPEN SPACE INSTEAD OF HOMES. VERSUS GRANTING THE WAIVER, ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE ON THIS ONE, I MIGHT GO BACK. SO JUST BEAR WITH ME HERE, ON THAT LOT WHERE THE WAIVER IS REQUESTED, THE APPLICANT DOES PROPOSE AND IS WORKING WITH CITY STAFF AND CITY ARCHITECT TO REALLY ENCLOSE THAT LOT, SIMILAR TO HOW. OH, GOSH, I FORGET THE SUBDIVISION. THERE'S A SUBDIVISION THAT KIND OF BACKS ONTO THE NEW ALBANY COUNTRY CLU, THEY CREATE A WALL OR A DIFFERENT LANDSCAPE TREATMENT TO REALLY PROVIDE A VERY STRONG VISUAL SEPARATION BETWEEN THE LOT AND THE PARKING AND OPEN SPACE THAT IT SURROUNDS. SO THEY DO. WE'RE WORKING WITH THEM AND THE CITY ARCHITECT TO FINALIZE THAT DESIGN. BUT THAT IS THE INTENT FOR THAT LOT RIGHT THERE, AND I'LL LET THEM, TALK WITH YOU ABOUT THAT HERE IN A MINUTE. WE EVER SEE. SO WAIVER C IS TO ALLOW A 44 FOOT TALL TOWNHOMES IN CERTAIN PORTIONS OF SUBAREA TWO, WHERE THE TEXT ONLY ALLOWS 40 FOOT TALL TOWNHOMES. IN ADDITION, DUE TO THAT HEIGHT, THE APPLICANT ALSO REQUEST A WAIVER TO ALLOW THOSE TO HAVE A, ARCHITECTURAL EXPRESSION OF THREE AND A HALF STORIES OR THE GDR STATE THAT THEY SHOULD BE THREE STORIES IN HEIGHT. SO I MIGHT BACK UP A FEW IMAGES HERE. SO AGAIN, PARDON FOR THE MOTION SICKNESS. SO THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON HERE THAT WE EVALUATE IN OUR STAFF REPORT. WE REALLY BELIEVE THAT, YOU KNOW, SERVE AS GOOD JUSTIFICATION FOR GRANTING THE WAIVER. SO IF YOU LOOK THIS SHEET HERE, SO THIS IS THE THIS IS WHAT YOU WOULD SEE ALONG STATE ROUTE 605. THIS IS THE TOWNHOME PRODUCT. AS YOU CAN SEE IT'S TWO AND A HALF STORY ARCHITECTURAL EXPRESSION. THIS IS ACTUALLY UNDER 40FT HERE OR AT 40FT ALONG THIS ROADWAY. SIMILAR SIMILARLY ALONG CENTRAL COLLEGE ROAD, YOU'RE ABLE TO ACHIEVE THE SAME TREATMENT. SO THE SITE ACTUALLY GRADES BACK DOWN TOWARDS THE CREEK. SO THE GRADE IS REALLY KIND OF DRIVING THE NEED TO, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT ALONG CENTRAL COLLEGE AND STATE ROUTE 605, DUE TO THE GRADE CHANGE THAT THAT THIRD STORY OR THAT THIRD LEVEL CAN BE BURIED AT THE GRADE. SO AT THE BACK OF THESE UNITS, IT'LL LOOK LIKE RICHMOND SQUARE, WHERE IF YOU GO BACK ON MCDONALD LANE, YOU'LL SEE ALL THREE STORIES. IT'S HIDDEN BY THE GRADE. SO BECAUSE DUE TO THE GRADE CHANGE DOWN TO THE CREEK, THE APPLICANT ISN'T ABLE TO EMULATE THAT FOR EVERY SECTION OF TOWNHOMES THROUGHOUT THE REST OF THE SUB AREA TOO. 
          BUT WHAT THEY ARE ABLE TO DO IS THAT THEY THEY ARE ASKING FOR A WAIVER TO DO 44FT AND HAVE A THREE AND A HALF STORY TOWNHOME. BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, THE BUILDINGS NEVER EXTEND FAR BEYOND WHAT IS BEING DEVELOPED ON CENTER COLLEGE AND 605 DUE TO THE GRADE CHANGE, THE BUILDINGS STAY AT THE SAME LEVEL. ADDITIONALLY, THE APPLICANT HAS THE ABILITY TO AND THIS IS THIS IS KIND OF SOMETHING THAT CAME THROUGHOUT OUR CONVERSATIONS WITH THE CITY ARCHITECT. YOU KNOW, THE APPLICANT COULD COME IN AND DEVELOP A 40 FOOT TALL TOWNHOME WITH A FLAT ROOF. YOU KNOW, PHILADELPHIA STYLE OR BALTIMORE STYLE. MEET ALL OF OUR DIFFERENT ARCHITECTURAL REQUIREMENTS AND NO WAIVERS WOULD BE NEEDED. THE CITY ARCHITECT REALLY STRONGLY BELIEVES THAT, YOU KNOW, THE PITCHED ROOF, THE MORE GEORGIAN ARCHITECTURAL EXPRESSION IS REALLY WHAT THE SITE KIND OF LEANS TO. AND WHAT'S APPROPRIATE IN THIS AREA. SO WE'VE ENCOURAGED THEM TO, YOU KNOW, DO THAT RIGHT AND HAVE THAT EXTRA HALF STOREY TO MAKE SURE THAT ARCHITECTURALLY IS APPROPRIATE FOR THIS AREA. AND THAT WAIVER WAS APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY BY THE ARB AND SO WAS THE WAIVER FOR THE SIDEWALKS. I APOLOGIZE, I DIDN'T MENTION THAT. SO WAIVER D I'LL GO BACKWARDS. AGAIN, I APOLOGIZE. SO THIS IS ACTUALLY SOMETHING THE APPLICANT FOUND, THE CITY DID NOT FIND THIS. THE APPLICANT BROUGHT IT TO OUR ATTENTION. SO OUR RULES REQUIRE THAT THERE BE A, TWO FOOT, RISE OR TWO, TWO FOOT STAIRS, BASICALLY ELEVATION CHANGE BETWEEN THE GROUND AND THE FRONT DOOR OF A HOME, TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT, YOU KNOW, THE FRONT 
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DOOR IS PROMINENT AND, IT'S PROMINENT ALONG ALL OF OUR PUBLIC STREETS AND RIGHT OF WAYS. SO THERE ARE SEVERAL INSTANCES THAT THE APPLICANT HAS NOTED, BUT WE'VE ALSO FOUND IN OUR RECORDS WHERE THAT HAS NOT ALWAYS BEEN ACHIEVED THROUGH DIFFERENT MEANS. SO IN OUR NOTTINGHAM TRACE, YOU KNOW, 55 AND OLDER COMMUNITIES, THE WAIVERS HAVE BEEN GREAT AT VARIANCES HAVE BEEN GRANTED TO ELIMINATE THAT REQUIREMENT, IT REALLY BECOMES A LITTLE BIT CHALLENGING WITH MEETING ADA REQUIREMENTS AND ENSURING THAT HOMES ARE ACCESSIBLE, YOU KNOW, WE BELIEVE THAT, YOU KNOW, BASED ON OUR EVALUATION, THE STAFF REPORT, YOU KNOW, WAIVER FROM THAT STANDARD IS APPROPRIATE IN THIS CASE BECAUSE THE TARGET DEMOGRAPHIC FOR A LOT OF THESE HOMES IS SIMILAR HERE AT THE SITE, BUT WE DO BELIEVE THAT YOU'RE ABLE TO THE APPLICANT HAS DEMONSTRATED THAT WE CAN WAIVE THAT SIMULTANEOUSLY ENSURING THAT THE GOAL OF HAVING, YOU KNOW, PROMINENT DRESSED UP WELL DESIGNED FRONT DOORS CAN STILL BE ACHIEVED. SO THEY COMMIT TO, PROVIDING AT LEAST TWO STEPS UP TO THE FRONT DOOR FOR EVERY HOME THEY MIGHT, YOU KNOW, THE DIMENSION IS DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, DEPENDING ON THE GRADE. BUT AT LEAST TWO STEPS UP TO THE FRONT DOOR AND THEN THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD ALSO, MADE A CONDITION THAT THE, THE FRONT HOMES OF THE OF EACH HOUSE HAVE TO SLOPE DOWN TO, TO THE ADJACENT STREET OR RIGHT OF WAY TO ENSURE THAT THAT, THAT THE INTENT OF THAT REQUIREMENT IS BEING MET. WHILE THE WAIVER IS GRANTED. AND THEY DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THAT WAIVER, UNANIMOUSLY. ANOTHER GOOD EXAMPLE OF THIS IS MARKET AND MAIN APARTMENTS. IT'S AT THE ROUNDABOUT DIRECTLY THAT IS COMPLETELY AT GRADE, THAT ENTRANCE. BUT THE BUILDING, I HOPE WE CAN ALL AGREE IS VERY WELL DESIGNED AND LOOKS GREAT IN OUR VILLAGE CENTER. SO THE LAST WAIVER. SO THE ZONING TEXT. SO THIS IS WAIVER E, THE ZONING TEXT STATES THAT EVERY ALL USERS WITHIN SUB AREA ONE. SO THIS HIGHLIGHTED AREA HERE ALL COMMERCIAL USERS, EACH TENANT SPACE CANNOT BE OR THERE CAN BE NO TENANT SPACES THAT ARE LARGER THAN TEN ZERO ZERO ZERO SQUARE FEET IN SIZE. SO GOING WAY BACK TO THE ZONING TEXT, THIS REQUIREMENT WAS REALLY PUT IN THE TEXT TO ENSURE THAT WE AVOIDED, YOU KNOW, ANY MEDIUM TO BIG BOX RETAILERS FROM COMING IN AND KIND OF CANNIBALIZING ALL OF THE AVAILABLE RETAIL SPACE. THE INTENT OF THE HAMLET WAS TO ENSURE THAT, YOU KNOW, A VARIETY OF SHOPS AND RETAIL EXPERIENCES, AND DIFFERENT COMMERCIAL USES COULD BE ALLOWED IN THIS AREA, AND, YOU KNOW, AT THE TIME THAT WE THOUGHT THE BEST MECHANISM TO DO THAT WAS TO LIMIT THE SQUARE FEET, OR LIMIT THE TENANT, THE TENANT SPACE SIZE TO 10,000FT■!. BUT WE'VE COME TO FIND OUT WITH THE APPLICANT AND WORKING WITH OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TEAM IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE INTERPRETATION OF THAT REQUIREMENT IS THAT IF THERE'S AN OFFICE USER ON A SECOND FLOOR, DUE TO THIS REQUIREMENT, THEY WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO OCCUPY SPACE AT THE SITE BECAUSE MOST OFFICE USERS ARE LOOKING FOR SOMETHING THAT'S MORE THAN 10,000FT■!S, WE HEARD THAT FROM THE APPLICANT WITH SOME OF THE FOLKS THAT THEY'RE TALKING TO AND THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, VALIDATED BY OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TEAM. WE ALSO TOOK ADDITIONAL STEPS TO REACH OUT TO ONE COLUMBUS, THE REGIONAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ARM HERE IN CENTRAL OHIO, TO KIND OF TALK ABOUT THIS WAIVER. WE ALSO REACHED OUT TO COLLIERS, WHO DOES A LOT OF MARKET RESEARCH FOR OUR REGION AND NATIONWIDE, ABOUT THE OFFICE MARKET IN CENTRAL OHIO. AND JUST TO KIND OF GET THEIR OPINION ON ON THIS WAIVER REQUEST. AND AFTER TALKING TO BOTH OF THEM, YOU KNOW, THE MARKET, THE OFFICE MARKET IS STILL, AS EVERYONE KNOWS, PRETTY NOT NEARLY WHERE IT WAS PRE-COVID, BUT REALLY, BOTH OF THOSE GROUPS FELT THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS, THIS REQUIREMENT REALLY JUST LIMITS THE CITY'S ABILITY TO ATTRACT, ATTRACT SOMETHING. SO IF THERE WAS A, YOU KNOW, A GREAT USER THAT WAS 10,001FT■!S IN SIZE, THAT'S WHAT THEY NEEDED TO BE ABLE TO RUN THEIR BUSINESS APPROPRIATELY. AND YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE ALL THEIR EMPLOYEES COULD BE IN THE SAME LOCATION. YOU KNOW, THIS THIS REQUIREMENT IS REALLY LIMIT WOULD LIMIT THAT, THAT ABILITY, SO WHY WOULD WE WANT TO FURTHER LIMIT OUR ABILITY TO STAY COMPETITIVE IN THE OFFICE MARKET WITH THIS SORT OF REQUIREMENT FOR OFFICE USERS, SO THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED A WAIVER TO ELIMINATE THAT SIZE REQUIREMENT FOR NON-RETAIL USES. SO OFFICE USERS WOULD BE INCLUDED IN THAT. HOWEVER, THEY'VE COMMITTED TO MEETING A CONDITION AND IT'S ON YOUR LIST. 
          AND YOUR STAFF REPORT THAT, 80% OF ALL THE 80% OF THE GROUND FLOOR USES HAVE TO BE, YOU KNOW, OPEN TO THE PUBLIC FOR THE EXCHANGE AND SALE OF GOODS AND SERVICES, WHICH MEANS THAT 20%, YOU KNOW, OF THE GROUND FLOOR COULD BE LIKE A LOBBY THAT LEADS UP TO THE SECOND FLOOR, WHERE AN OFFICE OFFICE TENANT COULD BE LOCATED. SO, THAT WAIVER, THERE WERE A COUPLE MEMBERS OF THE ARB THAT THAT COULDN'T FIND SITE SPECIFIC CONDITIONS, YOU KNOW, GOING BACK TO THE WAIVER CRITERIA TO HELP JUSTIFY THAT REQUEST, YOU KNOW, WE'VE OUTLINED A DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, JUSTIFICATION IN OUR STAFF REPORT FOR YOU GUYS ON THAT. WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY 
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QUESTIONS, BUT I KNOW THE APPLICANT IS PLANNING ON TALKING ABOUT THAT AS WELL. SO KIND OF OVERALL, THIS HAS BEEN A VERY LONG, PROCESS AND PROJECT, SOMETHING WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON FOR WITH THE APPLICANT FOR TWO, THREE, SEVEN YEARS, WE'VE MET WITH THEM EVERY AT LEAST EVERY TWO WEEKS. I FEEL LIKE I TALKED TO JUSTIN EVERY TWO DAYS. EVERY DAY, DEPENDING ON THE DAY, KIND OF JUST MAKING SURE THIS APPLICATION IS REALLY, REALLY JUST DOWN TO THE FINE GRAIN DETAIL. EVERYTHING'S IN ORDER. SO I DO I DO WANT TO COMMEND THEM. I'VE NEVER WE'VE NEVER SEEN AN APPLICANT SHOWING THAT MUCH WILLINGNESS TO MAKE SURE THAT CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL ARE MET AND THAT ALL THE STONES ARE UNCOVERED AND, YOU KNOW, PICK A METAPHOR. T'S CROSSED. I'S DOTTED, ALL OF THOSE THINGS. SO WE REALLY APPRECIATE WORKING WITH THEM. AND, WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. AND I KNOW THEY HAVE A PRESENTATION AS WELL. THANK YOU. ENGINEERING THE APPLICANT HAS ADDRESSED ALL OF OUR ENGINEERING COMMENTS IN THIS SUBMISSION. THAT'S SO PLEASANT TO HEAR QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION. BEFORE YOU HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT, CAN YOU HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT, PLEASE? GOOD EVENING. JUSTIN. LIGHT OF STONE ASSOCIATES AND HASN'T BEEN A FULL SEVEN YEARS, BUT I THINK I'VE MENTIONED BEFORE I HAD A DAUGHTER THAT WAS A FRESHMAN IN HIGH SCHOOL WHO'S NOW A FRESHMAN IN COLLEGE. BUT, JUST ONE SECOND. ALL RIGHT, THERE WE GO. 
          SO JUST TO GIVE A QUICK SENSE OF WHERE WE'RE GOING TO GO WITH THIS PRESENTATION, WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO KEEP IT FAIRLY LIGHT. THERE WAS A LOT OF READING AND A LOT OF INFORMATION THERE, BUT THERE ARE A FEW THINGS I DID WANT TO TOUCH ON, WE'LL KIND OF TALK ABOUT WHAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON IN THE PAST TWO MONTHS. JUST HIT ON THE FINAL SITE, PLAN AGAIN, FINAL LANDSCAPE AND OPEN SPACE PLANS. I'LL JUST TAKE A MINUTE. THEN WE'LL GO TO THE PARK PLAN AND WE'LL GIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE CONTEXT ON THE ART EXPERIENCE THAT WE ARE PROPOSING FOR THIS SITE, YOU ALL HAVE NOT MET BRIAN LOONEY IN PERSON YET, AND I'LL EXPLAIN WHO HE IS IN A MINUTE HERE, BUT HE WILL KIND OF TAKE A STEP BACK AND JUST GIVE YOU A 5 OR 10 MINUTE OVERVIEW OF HOW DID WE COME UP WITH THE PLAN, HOW DID WE COME UP WITH THE ARCHITECTURE, WHAT WAS SORT OF THE VISION GOING FROM THE STRATEGIC PLAN TO HOW WE KIND OF IMPLEMENTED THAT STORY ONTO THIS, THIS SITE AND THEN FINALLY WE WILL TALK ABOUT THOSE WAIVERS IN A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL. SO I THINK I WAS HERE ON AUGUST 5TH FOR AN INFORMAL PRESENTATION. AND I SHOWED THIS SLIDE, WHICH I'LL START WITH AGAIN. SO AGAIN, FOR TWO YEARS WE'VE BEEN KIND OF WORKING ON THIS. WHAT I DID WANT TO MENTION IS THE TEAM, KEITH MYERS IS NOT HERE TONIGHT, BUT HE'S BEEN SORT OF GUIDING US ON SOME OF THE MASTER PLANNING AND SOME OF THE ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENTS. BUT WE'VE GOT THE FULL ASSORTMENT HERE. FRANCO AND BRIAN FROM EMH AND T ARE KIND OF WORKING WITH US ON ALL THOSE ARCHITECTURAL AND CIVIL DETAILS. BRIAN, AS I MENTIONED, HE COMES FROM TORTI GALLAS AND ASSOCIATES OUT OF WASHINGTON, DC. HE'S WHAT WE REFERRED TO AS OUR HAMLET ARCHITECT, AND HE DRAFTED OUR PATTERN BOOK, WHICH IS OUR SORT OF INTERNAL PRIVATE DOCUMENT THAT SETS THE VISION AND THE TONE AS WE'RE WORKING WITH OUR BUILDERS, KIND OF TELLING THEM WHAT THEY NEED TO DO. I'M SURE YOU'VE MET AARON, WHO WILL KIND OF GIVE SOME OF THE NUANCE OF THE WAIVERS. AND THEN OUR LATEST ADDITION, HALEY, WHO WILL GET A CHANCE TO TALK ABOUT THE ART THAT WE ARE PROPOSING FOR THE SITE. SO OVER THE PAST TWO MONTHS, I ACTUALLY CAME BACK FROM MY FAMILY VACATION ON JULY 14TH, SO NOW WHAT HAVE WE BEEN DOING SINCE THEN? UP UNTIL TODAY, WE'VE COMPLETED FOUR PUBLIC HEARINGS, AND THIS IS OUR FIFTH. I JUST MENTIONED THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE DONE EVERYTHING WE CAN TO SEEK FEEDBACK FROM ALL OF THE BOARDS, ALL OF THE COMMUNITY. WE'VE HAD ENGAGED COMMUNITY MEMBERS COME AND GIVE FEEDBACK AND WALK THE SITE. SO WE'VE BEEN REALLY LOOKING FOR THAT ENGAGEMENT, OVER THAT TIME, WE'VE ALSO REVIEWED AND ADDRESSED DOZENS OF CITY STAFF COMMENTS THAT CHRIS MENTIONED, ABOUT 35 MCCSC LANDSCAPE COMMENTS DOWN TO EACH SPECIES OF TREE AND ALL THOSE DETAILS, ALL THE ENGINEERING COMMENTS WE HOPEFULLY WE CHECK THOSE OFF AND THEN WE'VE GONE THROUGH MULTIPLE ROUNDS WITH THE CITY ARCHITECT JUST KIND OF REFINING ALL THOSE LAST LITTLE DETAILS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE WEAVING THE ENTIRE STORY TOGETHER OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE HERE, ANOTHER THING WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON IS REFINING THAT WAIVER LANGUAGE A LITTLE BIT, BECAUSE IN THESE PUBLIC MEETINGS, WE'VE GOTTEN SOME FEEDBACK PUBLICLY AND PRIVATELY JUST SAYING, YOU KNOW, OKAY, WAIVER E, CAN WE ADAPT THAT A LITTLE BIT? SO WE'RE NOT 
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YOU KNOW, WE'RE MAKING SURE WE'RE PROTECTING THAT GROUND FLOOR EXPERIENCE. I CAN'T REMEMBER WHICH WAIVER. MAYBE THAT'S BE WITH THE 44 FOOT HEIGHT. HOW TO RESTRICT OURSELVES. WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO GO TO 50FT IN CERTAIN AREAS. BUT, YOU KNOW, LET'S FOREGO THAT AND FOCUS ON THE 44. SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING TO MAKE SURE THAT WAIVER LANGUAGE IS KIND OF TUNED IN TO, TO BE RESPONSIVE TO WHAT WE'VE BEEN HEARING, WE DID RECEIVE UNANIMOUS RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL FROM THE PARKS AND TRAILS ADVISORY BOARD, WE RECEIVED UNANIMOUS RECOMMENDATION. APPROVAL OF THE PLAN AND ARCHITECTURE FROM THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD, WE HAVE RECEIVED RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL OF ALL FIVE WAIVERS AND EVEN THIS PAST WEEK, WE'VE BEEN CONTINUING TO UPDATE ARCHITECTURE BASED ON THAT IRB APPROVAL, BRIAN AND HIS TEAM HAS BEEN CHECKING ON WINDOW DIMENSIONS, AND WE'VE BEEN FLIPPING THROUGH COLOR PALETTES AND ALL THE HE'S BEEN CHANGING ROOF COLORS AND ON THE COMMERCIAL. SO ALL THAT IS CONTINUING TO CONTINUE TO ADDRESS ALL OF THE ALL OF THE ELEMENTS. SO I'M NOT GOING TO GO INTO GREAT DETAIL, THE SITE PLAN, EVEN FROM LAST TIME I WAS HERE TO TODAY, WE'VE BEEN MODIFYING JUST LITTLE THINGS IN THE, IN THE PARK AREA. AS YOU KNOW, THE PARK AREA, THAT'S EIGHT PLUS ACRES. I CAN'T REMEMBER ANY MORE, WE'VE BEEN ADDING AND WORKING PATHWAYS AROUND SOME OF THOSE TREES. AS YOU REMEMBER, WE'RE SAVING A COUPLE KEY TREES ON THE SITE THAT WE'VE BEEN DESIGNING AROUND, AGAIN, THERE'S A 54 INCH PIN OAK THERE AND ANOTHER. THAT ONE'S DEAD ON TO THIS ONE, ANOTHER 54 INCH TREE THERE THAT WE'VE BEEN CONTINUING TO WORK OUR LANDSCAPE SOLUTIONS AROUND, BEEN WORKING AROUND THIS BIOSWALE, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WE HAVE NO SURFACE PONDS HERE. WE'VE PUT EVERYTHING INTO BIOSWALES OR UNDERGROUND STORMWATER DETENTION, TO CREATE A KIND OF NICER ENVIRONMENT AND HABITAT FOR EVERYTHING ALONG THIS AREA. SO ONE OF THE KEY THINGS WE'VE REALLY BEEN RAMPING UP ON, AGAIN, WITH MCCSC IS FINALIZING ALL THE LANDSCAPE DETAILS THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE PROJECT. FRANCO. I MEAN, IT'S INVALID FROM IMPACT, WE HAVE EACH LITTLE AREA DOWN TO, AGAIN, EVERY SPECIES. I THINK WE'RE ADDING 550 TREES TO THIS PROJECT. AND EACH ONE'S BEEN IDENTIFIED. WE'RE STILL BOUNCING BACK AND FORTH ON SOME SHADE. THERE'S LIKE ONE TREE THAT, YOU KNOW, SPECIES. WE HAVE TO SHIFT A LITTLE BIT, BUT, REALLY BEEN FINE TUNING ALL OF THAT AND TO, TO MAKE SURE IT GETS WORKED OUT WELL. I DID WANT TO MENTION KIND OF ONE OF THE STORIES IS KEEPING FORMALITY AS WE'RE ON THE MAIN THOROUGHFARES WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, WELL-SPACED STREET TREES. BUT AS WE GET CLOSER TO THE PARK AREA AND THE CREEK, IT STARTS TO LOOSEN UP WITH THE WAY THE PLANTINGS WORK. SO EVEN, YOU KNOW, VERY FORMAL PLACEMENT OF THE GRID OF TREES UP HERE. BUT THEN AS WE GET DOWN HERE, WE USED TO HAVE A GRID AND WE'VE KIND OF SAID, OKAY, LET'S LET THAT BE MORE NATURAL. AND KIND OF WORK INTO THE LANDSCAPE AS WE'RE PRESERVING AS MANY TREES AS WE CAN THROUGHOUT HERE, AND THEN KIND OF WORK TO KEEP IT A LITTLE LOOSER AND MORE NATURAL AS WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THAT, THE PARK, I THINK CHRIS MENTIONED ALL THE, THE KEY THINGS I WAS GONNA MENTION. 
          WE'VE ADDED THE BENCHES, WE'VE ADDED THE TRASH RECEPTACLES, CONTINUE TO REFINE THE WAY THE BRIDGES WORK AND THE PLACEMENT OF FUTURE CONNECTIONS AND ALL THOSE DETAILS. AND THEN ONE OF THE KEY PARTS OF THAT IS THE ART PROGRAM. AND SO I DID WANT TO HAVE HALEY COME UP AND GIVE JUST A LITTLE BIT OF AN OVERVIEW ON WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON, FOR THE AREA AROUND HERE IN THE SUGARLAND PARK. SO I'M GOING TO CLICK THAT SLIDE FOR HER. HI, I AM HALEY DIETER WITH HALEY GALLERY, A SMALL BUSINESS THAT'S BEEN OPERATING IN NEW ALBANY FOR COMING ON 17 YEARS. AND I WANT TO APPLAUD, STEINER AND COMPANY FOR CHOOSING A SMALL BUSINESS. A WOMAN OWNED BUSINESS TO DO THIS AND TO COME ON BOARD THIS JOURNEY BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT, I BELIEVE, FOR ART TO BE A CENTRAL PART OF ANY CITY. WE SEE WHAT IT'S DONE WITH DUBLIN. WE SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH DOWNTOWN COLUMBUS, HOW PUBLIC ART IS A VERY, VERY BIG PART OF THE COMMITMENT TO ARTS AND LEISURE, WHETHER IT'S TRAILS OR PUBLIC ART IN FRONT OF BUILDINGS, IN FRONT OF HOMES. I THINK IT'S GOING TO DISTINGUISH NEW ALBANY IN TERMS OF A COMMITMENT TO ART AND WHAT, I HAVE DONE IS REACHED OUT TO SEVERAL ARTISTS, ONE LIVES RIGHT HERE IN NEW ALBANY. IN FACT, 
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RENATA FACKLER DID THE BRUTUS BUCKEYE AT THE OHIO STATE STUDENT UNION. SHE'S VERY WELL KNOWN. SHE HAS ABOUT 20 PIECES IN THE CHURCH OF THE RESURRECTION AS WELL. SO SHE'S A WELL KNOWN ENTITY IN NEW ALBANY. WE ALSO HAVE ANOTHER FEMALE ARTIST WHO IS FROM GAHANNA, AND WE ALSO HAVE AN ARTIST WHO IS FROM JOHNSTOWN. AND SO WE ARE CONCENTRATING ON ARTISTS WHO ACTUALLY LIVE HERE IN EITHER FRANKLIN, LICKING AND NEIGHBORING PLACES SO THAT THEY'RE ACCESSIBLE ALSO TO THE ART. AND I'LL EXPLAIN THAT IN A MOMENT. SO WHAT WE HAVE REACHED OUT TO ARTISTS WITH IS TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE HIGH AMOUNT OF PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC, PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC, THE PRESENCE OF SMALL CHILDREN AND THE WIDE RANGING TEMPERATURES IN OHIO WHEN DESIGNING THEIR SCULPTURES. SCULPTURES WILL BE BOTH BE IN PUBLIC AREAS AS WELL AS THERE WILL BE ONE SCULPTURE THAT IS BY THE BUSINESS PARK, WHICH I ENVISION TO BE A LARGER, THE LARGER OF THE SCULPTURES. AND EACH SCULPTURE WILL CELEBRATE LIFE IN NEW ALBANY, AND THAT'S THE PILLARS THAT WE REPRESENT IN NEW ALBANY. WELL, WHETHER IT'S PELOTONIA, THE WALKING CLASSIC, OUR FAMILY ATMOSPHERE, THE MILES OF WALKING PATHS, THE FOCUS ON A HEALTHY LIFESTYLE, EDUCATION, ARTS, SUSTAINABILITY, ALL THE DIFFERENT CORPORATE PRESENCE THAT WE HAVE IN OUR TOWN AS WEL. 
          AND WE ARE GOING TO LET THE ARTIST OBVIOUSLY CREATE THESE PIECES AND THEN WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A MEETING AND DISCUSS WHICH ONES WOULD BE MOST APPROPRIATE FOR THE AREAS, BILL RESCH WAS A PROPONENT OF THE WETLANDS AND OF THE HAMLET PROJECT, AND IN HOMAGE TO HIM, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE SCULPTURES IS GOING TO HAVE A VERY SMALL CARDINAL ON I. A CARDINAL REPRESENTS WHEN YOU SEE A CARDINAL, IT REPRESENTS SOMEONE WHO'S PASSED AWAY, WHO'S COMING TO SEE YOU. JUST SO YOU KNOW THAT THEY ARE THERE. IT'S ALSO THE STATE BIRD OF OHIO. AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK THAT SMALL ELEMENT WILL GIVE A VERY NICE STORY TO WEAVE THROUGH ALL OF THESE SCULPTURES, THE SCULPTURES, ALONG WITH STEINER AND COMPANY, WE ARE GOING TO WORK WITH THEM ON THE CONCRETE BASES THAT WILL GO THAT THE SCULPTURES WILL SIT ON, AS WELL AS LANDSCAPING AND LIGHTING, THEY WILL BE EITHER 2D OR 3D. AND AS I SAID, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT THE ARTIST IS IN THE STATE OF OHIO BECAUSE WE REALLY WANT THIS TO BE A LOCAL, FORAY INTO THE ARTS FOR NOT ONLY THE ARTISTS TO GIVE LOCAL ARTISTS THIS OPPORTUNITY, BUT ALSO WE WOULD LIKE THEM TO BE A PART OF ART TOURS THAT WE DO EACH, EACH SCULPTURE WILL HAVE A, A CODE ON IT THAT YOU CAN PRESS ON YOUR PHONE. AND WHAT WILL COME UP IS THE PROCESS THAT EACH ARTIST TOOK TO CREATE THAT, THAT SCULPTURE I'VE ALREADY SPOKEN WITH JOSH POLAND FROM NEW ALBANY. HE'S AGREED TO PROVIDE AUDIO VISUAL HELP WITH US AND TO THE ARTISTS, WHETHER IT'S GOING TO ZANESVILLE TO WATCH THE, EVERYTHING BEING POURED, WHETHER IT'S FABRICATION OF METAL, WHETHER IT'S GLASS, WHATEVER THE ARTISTS ARE GOING TO DO, WE'RE GOING TO FOLLOW THEIR STORY. AND SO WHOEVER GOES AND TAKES A LOOK AT THAT SCULPTURE, THEY'RE GOING TO UNDERSTAND WHO THE ARTIST IS, WHAT PROCESS IT TOOK TO CREATE IT, WHAT THEIR THOUGHT PROCESS IS, WHAT HOW THEY NAMED IT. AND THERE'S GOING TO BE A DEDICATION PLAQUE ON EACH ONE OF THEM. WE'RE GOING TO INCLUDE THE NEW ALBANY SCHOOLS FOR ART WALKS. 
          WE'RE GOING TO INCLUDE THE SENIOR CENTER AT HEALTHY NEW ALBANY FOR ART WALKS. AND WE WANT TO INCLUDE THE COMMUNITY WHERE THEY CAN UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT THE PROCESS WAS AND WHAT THE ARTISTS WERE AIMING FOR. WHEN THEY CREATED THESE SCULPTURES. AND IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE LET ME KNOW. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SO I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE AN EXCITING ELEMENT THAT KIND OF WEAVES ALL THE WAY AS YOU CAN SEE, IT STARTS UP HERE IN THE CIVIC GREEN, BUT THEN IT FLOWS ALONG ALL THE WAY BACK OVER TO THIS, THIS PORTION OF THE SITE AS WELL. SO NOW AS WE KIND OF CHANGE THE STYLE OF THE POWERPOINT, I WILL LET BRIAN GIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF THE KIND OF STORY OF HOW WE GOT TO THIS VERSION OF THE HAMLET. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. I'M BRIAN O'LOONEY, I'M A PARTNER WITH ALLISON PARTNERS. I STAND HERE 
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REPRESENTING FIVE SEPARATE TEAM ARCHITECTURE TEAMS THAT ARE WORKING TOGETHER TO CREATE THE HAMLET ON BEHALF OF THE FOLKS HERE IN NEW ALBANY, I'VE BEEN ASKED TO TALK ABOUT THE VISION FOR THE PROJECT AND THE VISION FOR THE PROJECT REALLY COMES FROM YOUR ENGAGE NEW ALBANY PLAN. THE RULES, THE GUIDANCE UP HERE. THESE ARE ALL THE KEY POINTS FROM YOUR ENGAGE NEW ALBANY PLAN. AND SO WE'RE GOING TO WALK THROUGH HOW THE DESIGN RESPONDS TO YOUR GOALS. AND ACHIEVES THE DESIGN INTENT THAT YOU ALL HAD, FOR THE HAMLET HERE IN NEW ALBANY. AND WHAT MAKES IT UNIQUE AMENITY THAT WILL ADD VALUE TO EVERYONE'S LIFE WHO REMAIN RESIDENTS AND WANT TO STAY HERE IN NEW ALBANY. SO IT'S A COMPACT, WALKABLE PATTERN. IT HAS A CENTRAL DESTINATION FRAMED BY STREETS AND BUILDINGS. IT HAS A NETWORK OF MEMORABLE DESTINATIONS. IT HAS INTIMATE ARCHITECTURE WITH RESTRAINED COLOR, HIGH QUALITY AND PRIVATELY ENFORCED PLACEMAKING, CAREFUL BUILDING, SCALING, MAN MADE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT EMBRACES NEIGHBORHOOD AND EMBRACES NATURE. EXCUSE ME AND A GREAT COMMUNITY FOR NEW ALBANY. SO THESE ARE YOUR YOUR GOALS FROM THE REDEVELOPMENT PLAN, FROM THE ENGAGE NEW ALBANY STRATEGIC PLAN. SO A COMPACT, WALKABLE PATTERN THAT HAMLET AT SUGAR RUN IS A COMPACT NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HAS EVERYTHING, A GREAT MIX OF USES WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE, NATURE PARKS, RETAIL, RESTAURANTS, AND A VARIETY OF TENURES OF HOUSING THAT APPEAL TO MULTIPLE GENERATIONS, THIS COMMUNITY WILL GIVE NEW TENURE OPPORTUNITIES TO FOLKS WHO LOVE NEW ALBANY, WHO WANT TO REMAIN IN NEW ALBANY BUT ARE SICK OF MOWING THE LAWN AND SHOVELING THE SNOW AND WANT TO BE HERE. SO WE'LL HAVE BOTH TOWNHOUSE TYPES AND FLAT TYPES. IF YOU'RE COMPLETELY DONE WITH SHOVELING THE SNOW, YOU CAN REMAIN IN NEW ALBANY AND LIVE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND WALK TO THE RESTAURANTS. WALK YOUR DOG, ENJOY THE PARKLAND THAT'S HERE FOR YOU, AND STAY A PART OF NEW ALBANY. AND THIS GIVES YOU AN EXAMPLE OF THAT. EACH NEIGHBORHOOD IS CENTERED ON A GREEN. AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT EACH OF THE EACH OF THE PLACES THAT WE'RE CREATING. AND THEY'RE ALL SLIGHTLY UNIQUE, A LITTLE DIFFERENT, BUT THEY'RE THE CONNECTED NODES COME TOGETHER TO MAKE THE OVERALL COMMUNITY. SO THERE'S ONE CENTRAL SPACE FRAMED BY STREETS AND BUILDINGS, AND THIS IS THE CENTRAL SPACE FOR ALL RESIDENTS OF NEW ALBANY. YOU'LL ALL COME TOGETHER AND ENJOY THE RESTAURANTS AND ACCESS TO THE PARKLAND FROM THIS POINT, AND THE ART THAT WE PUT PLACED AT THE CENTER OF THE OF THE OF THE SPACE, THE, IT ALLOWS FOR A WALKABLE PARK ONCE ENVIRONMENT WITH A COMFORTABLE WALKING DISTANCE AS RESIDENTS AND NEIGHBORS WHO DO NOT NEED TO MOVE THEIR CARS FROM PLACE TO PLACE TO GO FROM RESTAURANT TO CAFE TO ICE CREAM SHOP TO THE OTHER AMENITIES THAT WILL BE IN THIS, IN THE CORE HERE. AND IF YOU LIVE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, OR IF YOU LIVE IN ONE OF THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOODS, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO WALK FROM YOUR HOMES TO THE PARK, OR TO THE RESTAURANTS, OR TO THE CENTRAL GREEN SPACE THAT'S AT THE CORE OF THIS PLACE. AND THERE'S THE PLAN OF THE SPACE, AND THESE ARE SOME 3D IMAGES OF WHAT THAT SPACE WILL BE AND HOW IT OPENS UP AND PROVIDES ACCESS TO SUGAR RUN ITSELF. SO IT'S AN INTERESTING CONNECTION OF A, OF A, OF A CENTERING NODE, A PLACE FOR YOU TO GATHER THAT GIVES YOU DIRECT ACCESS TO NATURE. VIEW. 
          AND YOU CAN SEE HOW THAT LEADS FROM THE WALK ACROSS INTO THE SUGAR RUN PARK. WE'VE WORKED TOGETHER NOW FOR OVER 20 YEARS. WE FIGURED, DALLAS AND STEINER AND FROM THAT COLLABORATION, WE HAVE A REALLY GOOD SENSE OF HOW TO. AND THEY HAVE AN INCREDIBLE SENSE OF HOW TO, TEN TENANT AND ACTIVATE, WALKABLE FRONTAGES FOR RETAIL PLACES. EVERYONE HERE HAS BEEN TO HOUSTON. WE ALL KNOW WHAT THE KIND OF QUALITY THAT THIS TEAM BRINGS TO PLACEMAKING. AND WE CODIFIED THAT IN THE PRIVATELY ENFORCED PATTERN BOOK THAT WE CREATED FOR THIS PROJECT. AND SO WHAT YOU SEE ON ON THE PAGES HERE ARE THOSE PAGES THAT DOCUMENT THAT FOR THE TEAM. AND THERE'S SEPARATE ZONES IN THE RETAIL ENVIRONMENT THAT THEY OVERSEE, AND THEY CONFIRM THAT THEIR TENANTS ARE GOING TO BEHAVE AND PROVIDE THE HIGHEST QUALITY EXPERIENCE. AND SO THEY HAVE A DISPLAY ZONE IN THE IN INSIDE THE STORE THAT THEY OVERLOOK, AND MAKE SURE THAT IT'S THAT THE MERCHANDISE IS PRESENTED IN A HIGH QUALITY WAY. THEY HAVE A FACADE ZONE THAT REGULATES HOW THE FACADES COME TOGETHER, HOW THE SIGNAGE IS PUT ON, HOW THE, HOW THE STOREFRONT IS OPENED UP, HOW YOU DO NOT BLOCK THE WINDOW WITH WITH POSTERS AND SUCH. AND THEN THEY HAVE WHAT THEY CALL THE STOREFRONT ACTIVITY ZONE. AND FOR RESTAURANTS, THAT ACTIVITY ZONE IS CAFE SEATING AND LIFE FOR RETAILERS THAT THEY PROVIDE RULES ON SANDWICH BOARDS AND ON HOW TO, AND HOW YOU CAN PUT 
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ITEMS TO DISPLAY WITHIN THAT FRONTAGE ON THE STREET TO GET THE EXPERIENCE THAT YOU ALL KNOW FROM HOUSTON AND BRINGING SOME OF THAT EXPERIENCE AT APPROPRIATE, SCALE AND CHARACTER TO THE CORE HERE AT THE HAMLET SUGAR RUN. AND SO THERE'S THAT NETWORK OF MEMORABLE DESTINATIONS THAT ARE ANCHORED BY THAT CENTRAL CORE. BUT EACH OF THE EACH OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS HAS ITS OWN UNIQUE GREEN. JUSTIN ALREADY REFERRED TO THE BIG LARGE SPECIMEN TREE THAT WILL BE SAVED ON THE EDGE OF THE PARKLAND HERE FOR THE FLATS, BUT EACH OF THE OTHER SPACES ALSO HAVE. LOOK, I JUST HAVE THIS GRAPHIC TO TALK TO. YOU ALSO HAVE REALLY UNIQUE DESIGN CHARACTERISTICS BROUGHT TOGETHER BY THE LANDSCAPE TEAM. SO FOR EXAMPLE, THIS SPACE HERE HAS A CIRCLE OF BEAUTIFUL SPECIMEN RED MAPLES. SO IN THE FALL IN THE AUTUMN THIS WILL BLAZE RED WITH A RING OF BEAUTIFUL RED TREES. IN THIS SPACE THERE WILL BE A BUNCH OF TREES, EXISTING. A COUPLE OF EXISTING TREES SAVED, BUT A BUNCH OF TREES PLANTING THAT TO MAKE THIS MORE, SHADED AT THE NORTH END OF THE PARK AND THEN MORE OPEN AT THE SOUTH. SIMILARLY, HERE WE'LL DO A SIMILAR EFFECT WITH DIFFERENT TREES AND DIFFERENT SPECIES. THIS PARK HERE WILL BE SURROUNDED BY MORE SINGLE FAMILY AND DUPLEXES, WHILE THIS ONE IS TIGHTER WITH TOWNHOUSES. AND WE'LL SHOW YOU HOW THAT COMES TOGETHER IN A SECOND. AND THEN FINALLY, EVEN ON THE ON THE SINGLE FAMILY SIDE, THERE'S A NOTE HERE WHERE THE MAILBOXES WILL BE PLACED AND THAT WILL BE A COMMUNITY NODE. SO EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD HAS A COMMUNITY NODE THAT BRINGS PEOPLE TOGETHER, CONNECTED BY THE BY ALL THESE PATHS THAT YOU CAN GO FROM ONE OF THESE NODES TO ANOTHER. AND SO YOU WILL BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, THIS IS NOT A ONE NOTE ROAD NETWORK, BUT A COMMUNITY WITH INTEGRATED HIERARCHY OF SLOW STREETS, SIDEWALKS, PEDESTRIAN, BIKE CONNECTIONS, ALLEYS, ACTIVE EDGES, LEISURE TRAILS, COMMUNITY PATHS FOR A VARIETY OF ENJOYABLE STROLLS WITH A LOT OF MEMORABLE PLACES, AS YOU AS YOU MOVE AWAY FROM THE CORE, THE ARCHITECTURE GETS A LITTLE SOFTER. AND WE TALKED ABOUT HOW ON 605 AND CENTRAL COLLEGE, THE, THE, MARKERS OF NEW ALBANY ARCHITECTURE LIKE, LIKE RETURN EAVE RETURNS AND, AND SHADED BAYS ARE STILL RETAINED INTO THE ARCHITECTURE. THIS IS THE VIEW, BY THE WAY, LOOKING TO THE EAST FROM 605. HERE WITH THE TWO SINGLE FAMILIES. AND WHAT WE DIDN'T MENTION EARLIER ABOUT THIS. AND PART OF THE REASON WE CAN'T PUT A DUPLEX THERE IS THAT THE 100 YEAR FLOOD ZONE, WE HAD TO REMAP IT DURING THE MIDST OF THE PROJECT, AND THAT TIGHTENED UP THAT LOT. AND SO IT REALLY CONSTRICTED HOW WE COULD PROVIDE AN APPROPRIATE HOUSING ON THAT SITE FOR, FOR NEW ALBANY AND THEN CREATE A THRESHOLD TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE EAST FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE WEST. 
          AND OBVIOUSLY, THEY'RE ALREADY PROVIDING 33% OF THE SITE FOR PARKLAND. AND WE FELT IT WOULD BE A SHAME TO PUT ADDITIONAL PARKLAND THERE WHEN IT CREATES THE SURPRISE AS YOU ENTER THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THEN YOU GET EXPOSED TO THE PARKLAND BEYOND. SO THAT TO TIE THIS STREET TO THE STREET ACROSS THE WAY, WE FELT IT VERY IMPORTANT TO HAVE THESE TWO HOUSES, THESE TWO BOOKENDS ON THE AS A THRESHOLD FOR THAT STREET GOING EAST. YOU CAN SEE THE ARCHITECTURE THAT'S IN YOUR STRATEGIC PLAN, TO TALK ABOUT WHAT THE, WHAT CHARACTERISTICS, COMPRISE OF A HAMLET ARCHITECTURE, YOU KNOW, EXTERNAL CHIMNEYS, CRAFTED, OVERHANGS WITH WOOD. AND WE TOOK THAT WITH THE, WITH WORKING WITH YOUR CITY ARCHITECT AND TOOK THOSE ELEMENTS AND PUT IT INTO, FORMS THAT ARE MORE APPROPRIATE FOR NEW ALBANY. THAT WORKED WITH THE ARCHITECTURE, THE COLOR BRICK, THE COLOR MORTAR, THE TRIM COLORS THAT ARE, THAT, THAT ARE LESS TRENDY BUT HIT THE RIGHT NOTES FOR WHAT THIS COMMUNITY IS ABOUT. YEAH, AND THEN MOVING ACROSS THE WAY, THE INTIMATE ARCHITECTURE, WE LOOKED AT VERNACULAR ARCHITECTURE FOR THE PROJECT BECAUSE WE DIDN'T WANT TO COMPETE WITH THE VILLAGE CENTER. WE WANTED A COMMUNITY THAT WAS A LITTLE SOFTER, THAT HAD NOTES THAT FELT A LITTLE MORE CASUAL, AS JUSTIN HAD MENTIONED, TO, TO WHAT'S GOING ON HERE IN THE VILLAGE CENTER. SO WHILE WE DID GRAB SOME FORMS, THIS WAS IN THE STRATEGIC PLAN AS WELL. THIS IS RICHMOND SQUARE, AND WE BROUGHT THAT INTO THE ONE ROW OF TOWNHOMES ALONG 605. WE MARRIED THAT WITH OTHER, VERTICAL DEVELOPERS ACROSS THE WAY TO GET A LITTLE BIT OF VARIETY AND SOFTEN, WHAT COULD OTHERWISE BE A VERY HARD, REGIMENTED PRESENCE IF YOU JUST KEPT RUNNING THAT SAME TOWNHOME. SO WE BROUGHT IT TOGETHER WITH A VARIETY OF OTHER TYPES AND HOW WE DID THAT IS WE CREATED IN THE PATTERN BOOK, A SORT OF GOLDILOCKS PATTERN, WHERE WE 
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SAID THAT THESE ARE TERRIBLE. WE WOULDN'T WANT THESE INVOLVING, BUT THESE ARE ALSO TOO FORMAL. 
          AND SO WE WANTED TO GET WHAT WAS JUST RIGHT FOR THE HAMLET. AND SO, IT'S BRICK, SOFT WINDOWS, NOT NECESSARILY SHUTTERS CERTAINLY TAKE, TAKING OFF SOME OF THE ORNATE ELEMENTS THAT YOU MIGHT FIND HERE IN THE VILLAGE CENTER, BUT CREATING A SOFTER VERSION OF IT FOR THE HAMLET. SO IT FELT APPROPRIATE FOR THAT JUNCTURE. AND GAVE IT AN APPROPRIATE RELATIONSHIP TO THE VILLAGE CENTER. AND SO THEN WE STARTED SCALING THE BUILDINGS DOWN. SO IN THE, IN THE, IN THE COMMERCIAL CORE, THE BUILDINGS ARE BROKEN DOWN. THESE ARE GOOD COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS. THESE ALLOW FOR FLEXIBILITY WITHIN THEIR GROUND FLOOR, BUT AT THE SAME TIME HAVE A SCALE THAT IS MORE INTIMATE, AND THEN THIS, VIEW ON THE LEFT IS OF THE FLATS BUILDING, LOOKING INTO THE PROJECT FROM 605, SHOWING HOW IT'S INCREMENTAL TO BE AN APPROPRIATE SCALE TO THE TOWNHOMES ACROSS THE WAY. AND THEN FINALLY, THE PROJECT THAT EMBRACES NATURE. I THINK WE'VE COVERED THAT ALREADY IN TERMS OF WHAT JUSTIN AND I HAVE SAID. SO HERE'S THE PLAN THAT SHOWS YOU HOW IT TIES TO NATURE, THIS PLAN WILL BE THE ONE OF THE MOST PET FRIENDLY PROJECTS IN IN NEW ALBANY AND PROBABLY THE COUNTRY. I MEAN, THIS WILL STAND FOR HOW MUCH OHIO CITIZENS LOVE THEIR PETS, RIGHT? AND SO YOU COULD SEE THE NUMBER OF ROUTES THAT YOU CAN TAKE THROUGHOUT THE PROJECT EVERY DAY. IF YOU LIVE HERE, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO HAVE A VARIETY OF, OF DIFFERENT WAYS TO GO AND, AND DO THAT WALK IN THE MORNING AND NIGHT WITH YOUR WITH YOUR DOG OR CAT. AND LET'S JUST GET INTO THE ARCHITECTURE A LITTLE BIT. WE LOOKED AT A LOT OF PRECEDENTS THAT CAME FROM YOUR STRATEGIC PLAN. WE LOOKED AT WILLIAMSBURG. HERE'S SOME EXAMPLES FOR THE RETAIL. WE LOOKED AT IRON, WHICH ALSO HAS A SOFTER CORE OF COMMERCIAL BUILDING THAT WE BROUGHT TOGETHER TO COME UP WITH THE ARCHITECTURE THAT REPRESENTED THE BUILDINGS IN THE COMMERCIAL DISTRICT, AND I CAN TALK ABOUT THAT LATER. IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT, AND THEN WHEN YOU SEGUE AWAY FROM THAT, YOU GET TO DIFFERENT THE DIFFERENT PARKLETS. SO THIS IS THE FIRST PARKLET TO THE NORTHWEST WITH THE RED MAPLES IN THE CIRCLE AROUND THE ARC OF THE STREET. IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. THIS IS THE SECOND NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE NORTHEAST IN, SUB AREA TO, WITH THE GREEN, IN THE HEART OF IT, WITH THE TREES AT THE NORTH. AND THEN IT OPENS UP TO THE LAWN, WITH THE MALE PAVILION AT THE FAR END, THIS IS THE FLATS BUILDING WE TALKED ABOUT ALREADY, AND THEN THE TOWNHOMES BEHIND THAT ON 605, AGAIN, TO CROSSING THE STREET TO SUBAREA THREE WITH THE DUPLEXES, THAT SOFTEN TO THE SINGLE FAMILY AS YOU SEGUE AWAY FROM THE CORE. 
          AND THEN FINALLY THE SINGLE FAMILY TO THE SOUTH, WHICH THE PATTERN BOOK STANDARDS ARE MODELED UPON. ELY CROSSINGS. AND THAT'S IT. THAT WASN'T TOO BAD. I WAS GONNA TRY TO CUT THEM OFF IN A MINUTE OR TWO, BUT, SO THAT GIVES YOU A LITTLE KIND OF THE BACKSTORY OF HOW WE GOT TO WHERE WE ARE. AND NOW KIND OF GOING TO THE POLAR OPPOSITE. NOW WE GET INTO THE NUANCE MINUTIA. AARON WILL KIND OF TALK ABOUT IT AND THEN I WILL KIND OF RUN THROUGH EACH ONE IN A LITTLE MORE DETAI. 
          THIS WON'T BE NEARLY AS INTERESTING, SO I'LL BE BRIEF, AARON UNDERHILL AT THE UNDERHILL AND HODGE ATTORNEY FOR THE APPLICANT AT 8000 WALTON PARKWAY HERE IN NEW ALBANY. JUST A QUICK AND BRIEF. COMMENT ON THE WAIVERS. THE WAIVER SECTION OF THIS PUD WAS VERY INTENTIONAL, AND WE WROTE IT. WE TOOK IT FROM THE URBAN CENTER CODE, WHICH THIS THIS COMMISSION DOESN'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH. BUT, WAIVERS ARE REALLY A MUCH, LESSER STANDARD LEGALLY, AS COMPARED TO A VARIANCE. WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF EXAMPLES OF VARIANCES THIS EVENING. THE DUNCAN FOR MIDDLEFIELD FACTORS ARE VERY TECHNICAL, AND REQUIRE YOU TO CHECK A LOT OF BOXES. THE WAIVERS ARE MUCH LOOSER. THERE'S FEWER OF THEM. BUT REALLY IT'S INTENDED TO RECOGNIZE THAT IN THESE SPACES WHERE YOU HAVE A LITTLE MORE DENSITY THAN IS TYPICAL IN A SUBURBAN FARM FIEL, AND YOU HAVE TIGHTER SPACES THAT WHERE A MATTER OF FEET AND INCHES MATTER, THAT THERE'S SOME DEFERENCE GIVEN TO DESIGN OVER TECHNICAL TECHNICALITIES IN THE CODE. AND SO AS JUSTIN WALKS YOU THROUGH THESE, I JUST WANTED YOU TO KIND OF KEEP THAT IN MIND THS MUCH LOWER THAN THE VARIANCE. 
          THANK YOU. SO TAKING THESE ONE BY ONE, I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE KIND OF KNOW QUICK FROM CHRIS, BUT, STARTING WITH WAIVER A, AGAIN, THIS WE ARE ALLOWED TO HAVE FOUR FOOT SIDEWALKS ON THE PRIVATE LAND. THIS GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE IT IN THE PUBLIC AREAS. AND SO AS INSPIRATION, WHEN WE LOOKED AT ASHTON GROVE, THERE'S A PROJECT ACTUALLY WHERE BRIAN LIVES 
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CALLED THE KENTLANDS, WE FELT FOR THE SCALE AND TO PRESERVE KIND OF THE UNIQUE SITE CONDITIONS WITH THE TREES AND THE SPACING AND SOME OF THE TIGHT FRONTAGE. THAT FOUR FOOT SIDEWALK WAS APPROPRIATE SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE OF THE HAMLET ENVIRONMENT AND SUPPORTED THAT, I MY BAD. SO AGAIN, MOST OF THAT IS PRIVATE. IT'S JUST KIND OF WHERE IT TOUCHES THE EDGES. THAT'S WHERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS, THAT INTERNAL RING. RIGHT UP AGAINST THOSE HOMES VERY SIMILAR TO THIS CONDITION HERE. AND THEN OVER IN THIS AREA AS WELL. ONE THING OF NOTE, BOTH THIS AREA RIGHT HERE AND THIS AREA, THOSE ARE PAVER STREETS THAT ALSO REINFORCE KIND OF THE SCALE OF, OF THE ENVIRONMENT, THAT KIND OF REINFORCING THE HAMLET, JUMPING TO WAIVER B, WHICH IS THE, THE SINGLE FAMILY. SO AGAIN, WE THE TEXT SAYS TOWNHOMES ALONG THE FRONTAGE. WHEN WE WENT THROUGH THE FINAL SPACING AND WE WERE SITTING WITH KEITH AND MH AND T AND BRIAN AND EVERYONE, WE JUST FELT GIVEN THE REQUIREMENT OR NOT, THE NEED TO CONNECT TO THE ROAD HERE. AND AS WE ARE TRYING TO PRESERVE AS MUCH LAND OUT HERE, SQUEEZING IN ANOTHER TOWNHOME IN THIS AREA TO MAKE THAT RUN WORK OF THOSE DUPLEXES, THE SPACING JUST DIDN'T WORK. 
          AND SO, REALLY, THAT ONE WAS REALLY THE MAIN DRIVER WE COULD HAVE SQUEEZED IN THE DUPLEXES HERE AS REQUIRED. BUT THEN WE FELT FROM A KIND OF APPROPRIATE ENTRY AND FRAMING THE CORNERS, HAVING A MATCHING SINGLE FAMILY HOME ON EACH SIDE WOULD BE BETTER VERSUS MAKING A DUPLEX HERE. AND THEN THE SINGLE FAMIL. SO AS WE LOOKED AT THAT AND GIVEN THE SITE HAVING THOSE MATCHING SINGLE FAMILY HOME, IT WAS A REALLY NICE ENTRY SEQUENCE INTO THE INTO THE PROJECT WAIVER. SEE AGAIN, THIS IS THE 44 FOOT HEIGHT AND IT'S HARD TO SEE ON THIS. BUT AGAIN, WITH THE WAY THE SITE SLOPES DOWN, ON THESE FRONTAGES, THOSE ARE TWO AND A HALF STORY EXPRESSIONS AND SO THE ENTRY IS INTO THE SECOND LEVEL. AND ACTUALLY THE FRONT IS ABOUT 36FT IN HEIGHT. AND THEN WHEN YOU DO KIND OF THE AVERAGE HEIGHT OF THE FOUR CORNERS TO GET TO 40, THAT MEANS THE BACK IS 44. SO THAT EXPOSED 44, THE FRONT 36. AND THEN INSTEAD OF HAVING THIS BASED ON THE SLOPE HAVING TO DROP THAT TO 40 AND THEN JUMPING BACK UP TO 50 IN OTHER LOCATIONS, WE FELT GOING WITH 44 ALL THE WAY ACROSS, SETTING THAT DATA POINT AND THEN FORGOING THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO TO 50, THAT WAS THE APPROPRIATE DESIGN SOLUTION. GIVEN THAT SITE CONDITION. AND THEN, JUMPING TO D, AGAIN, THIS IS THE, THE TWO, THE TWO STEPS, THESE ARE ALL SLAB CONSTRUCTION. SO IT WAS A CHALLENGING DETAIL TO TRY TO ATTEMPT THAT. ALSO WITH THE WAY THE GRADING WORKS, WE WERE JUST CONSTRAINED WITH THE ABILITY TO KEEP, TO HAVE TOO MUCH HEIGHT. ALSO, AS WE LOOKED AT THE PRECEDENCE OF HAMLETS AGAIN, THAT KIND OF UNIQUE SITE CONDITION OF THE DESIRE FOR THIS TO BE A HAMLET AND WHAT WAS PROPOSED, ALL OF THE EXAMPLES WE LOOKED AT ALWAYS HAD ONLY 1 OR 2 STEPS. AND SO WE FELT THAT AGAIN WAS APPROPRIATE. AND ALSO KIND OF SET UP FOR A GREAT STREET ENVIRONMENT. AND THEN THE LAST ONE, WAIVER E THAT 10,000FT■!S AGAIN, I THINK WE'VE CONTINUED TO REFINE THAT SPECIFIC WAIVER. IT IS NOT OUR INTENT, AS ORIGINALLY WAS, TO PROVIDE TO PREVENT BIG BOXES. WE JUST HAVE ABOUT 20 ZERO ZERO ZERO SQUARE FEET OF SECOND FLOOR OFFICE SPACE. AND SO AS WE'VE BEEN TALKING TO TENANTS AND THEY WANT 12,000 OR THEY WANT SOME GROUND FLOOR SPACE AND SOME UPPER FLOOR SPACE, WE STARTED RUNNING INTO THAT UNIQUE CONDITION AT THIS SITE. AND SO AGAIN, WE TWEAKED THAT LANGUAGE TO SAY WE ALL AGREE. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THE GROUND FLOOR HAS A GREAT PEDESTRIAN MIXED USE ENVIRONMENT. AND FEEL. AND SO WE'VE KIND OF PUT THAT EXTRA CONDITION ON OURSELVES WITH WITH CHRIS AND THE CITY STAFF TO, TO MAKE SURE WE'RE MAINTAINING THAT THAT ORIGINAL INTENT AND THAT IS ALL THE WAIVERS. AND WE'RE CERTAINLY WE'VE GOT THE WHOLE TEAM HERE TO FOR QUESTIONS. OKAY. A LOT OF THESE HAVE A AND I HAVE ARCHITECTURE WITH DORMER WINDOWS IN THE ROOF LINE. IS THAT HABITABLE SPACE IN ANY OF 
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THESE? IT IS NOT. IN FACT, AS WE WORKED WITH THE CITY ARCHITECT ON THE DESIGN OF THOSE, THE ORIGINALLY HAD WINDOWS. AND THEN AS WE SORT OF PROGRESSED THROUGH THE PROCESS WITH HIM, CURRENTLY THOSE ARE DECORATIVE VENTS. SO IT'S A VENT THAT HAS THE SORT OF ESTHETIC OF A SMALL DORMER, BUT IS NOT INHABITED. IT IS NOT A WINDOW. IT'S MORE OF A DECORATIVE FEATURE, BUT PER TECHNICALITY, IT, I GUESS THAT CONSIDERS IT A THIRD AND A HALF FLOOR. I ASKED FOR THAT IN KESWICK, BECAUSE THE VIEWS ON THE THIRD FLOOR OF KESWICK WOULD HAVE BEEN STUNNING INTO THE WOODS. STREET TREE SPACING. DID THAT GET FIXED AT ZONING? YES. YEAH. WE'VE KEPT THAT COMMENT IN MIND WITH WITH WORKING WITH THEM TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THE ABILITY TO DO NARROWER SPACING, BUT I CAN'T KNOW WHAT THE RATE IS. BUT WE'RE WE'RE CLOSER THAN ONE PER 30, I THINK IS RIGHT. GO AHEAD. FRANCO FRANCO WITH THE MHRA 5500 NEW ALBANY ROAD, YES. SO AT THE ONE PER 30 FOR THE ENTIRE FRONTAGE, THAT DOES REQUIRE US TO HAVE TIGHTER SPACING. SO WE'RE CALCULATED AT ONE PER 30 FOR THE FRONTAGE, BUT THEN TO GET ALL THOSE TREES IN WITH SOME PLACES WE HAVE A DOUBLE STACK IN A WAY. SO IN THE TREE LAWN AND THEN WE HAVE A TREE THAT ON THE OTHER SIDE WE COULD DO THAT, OR WE COULD PUT THEM IN TIGHTER THAN ONE PER 30 TO GET THAT FULL NUMBER OF TREES ALONG THE FRONTAGE, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF STREETS IN THE COUNTRY CLUB HAD A POND AND A HALL PASS WHERE, THE OTHER SUMMER I WENT IN AND MEASURED AND THEY'RE MORE LIKE 24FT SPACING. AND THE OAKS, NOT ONLY TOUCH EACH OTHER BECAUSE THEY'VE HAD ENOUGH TIME TO DO THAT, THEY'RE STARTING TO TOUCH EACH OTHER ACROSS THE STREET. AND PARTICULARLY FOR THE RESIDENTIAL. THAT'S A HUGE AMENITY. AND I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU COULD DO IT, THAT THAT'S NOT PROHIBITED. NO, IT'S NOT PROHIBITED. WE WANT OBVIOUSLY, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE TO WORK WITH THE APPLICANT THAT YOU KNOW, WE'RE PROTECTING TREE HEALTH AND ALL THOSE THINGS, BUT IT'S NOT PROHIBITED. BUT BUT MY STRONG SUGGESTION IS PARTICULARLY FOR THE RESIDENTIAL, IS TO ACTUALLY TIGHTEN IT UP TIGHTER THAN THE 30. OKAY. WE CAN WE CAN KEEP THAT. WE CAN KEEP THAT IN MIND. AS LONG AS WE KNOW THEY'RE CLEAR THAT THERE'S NOT A MINIMUM, I GUESS YOU COULD SAY, BUT BUT, PER PROPER HORTICULTURAL PRACTICE, WE'LL KEEP THAT IN MIND. AND FRANCO, THE NUMBER OF TREES YOU'RE ADDING, IS IT 500 PLUS? IS THAT IT IS, YES. YEAH. 
          IT'S, THERE ARE, ONCE YOU GET THROUGH THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE NUMBER OF STREET TREES, AND JUST MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE THE ESTHETIC THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR, THAT'S WHERE WE END UP. I DON'T HAVE AN EXACT NUMBER, BUT IT IS UPWARDS OF 500. JUST TO CHIME INTO THAT, I THINK WE'VE WE'VE MIGHT MENTIONED I CAN'T REMEMBER WHO I'VE TOLD OR NOT, SO WE HAVE SURVEYED AS MANY TREES ALONG THE STREET AS, AS WE COULD, WE'VE IDENTIFIED THE HEALTH OF ALL OF THOSE, AND THEN THOSE KEY TREES, THOSE SIGNATURE ONES, WE'VE HAD ARBORISTS OUT AND ACTUALLY DO MUCH MORE DETAILED TESTING TO CONFIRM THEIR HEALTH, AND SO WE ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO BE WORKING WITH THE ARBORISTS AND OUR GENERAL CONTRACTORS ON A TREE PROTECTION STRATEGY, FOR SPECIFICALLY THOSE SPECIMEN TREES, BUT THEN ALSO AS MANY AS WE CAN ALONG THE, ALONG THE STREAM. WE KNOW FORTUNATELY, THERE WILL BE TREES THAT COME DOWN DURING THIS PROCESS. BUT, YOU KNOW, ADDING BACK 500 OR WE'RE HOPING TO CONTINUE THAT APPROPRIATE BALANCE THERE. YEAH. AND WHOEVER'S TAKING NOTES ON YOUR SIDE, I DIRECT YOU TO THE RESERVES ON REYNOLDSBURG, NEW ALBANY, JUST PUT THOSE IN AND THEY SAVED 4048 ACRES OF TREES WHERE ONLY THE MINIMUM CUTS WERE DONE IN THROUGH THERE, THEY USED A LOT OF SNOW FENCE. OKAY. AS THEIR FIRST LINE OF DEFENSE SO THAT IT WAS OKAY, THIS TO KEEP THE HEAVY EQUIPMENT FROM ACCIDENTALLY GETTING UNDER THE DRIP LINE OF EVERYTHING THEY WERE SAVING. YES, WE'VE ACTUALLY I WAS TALKING TO OUR INTERNAL CONSTRUCTION TEAM ABOUT SPECIFICALLY THOSE SPECIMEN TREES AND EVEN MORE ENHANCED, FENCING STRATEGY TO PROTECT THEIR DRIP LINE. GREAT THE SO THE NEXT THE LAST PAGE ON THE BIG FAT FOLDER HAS GOT THINGS LIKE THE STREET LIGHTS ON THERE, AND WE HAVE TWO STREET LIGHTS SHOWN THERE, ONE OF THEM IS WHAT I REFER TO AS THE STICK, AND THE OTHER IS SORT OF THE CANDY CANE, IF THAT HELPS. SO IT'S THE NEXT TO LAST SHEET OF THE FAT FOLDER. SO WHAT CAN WE DO WITHOUT THE STICK? IT DOESN'T DOWNCAST 
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TERRIBLY. WELL, IF YOU LOOK AT THE ANGLE OF THE LOWERMOST LIGHT EMITTING ELEMENT AND THEN DRAW A LINE UPWARDS TO THE LOWEST THING THAT BLOCKS LIGHT, IT HAS A POTENTIAL UP ANGLE TO IT, WHEREAS THE SORT OF RAIN HAT, OR THE ONE THAT HAS A CANDY CANE SHAPE HAS AT LEAST SOME CUT OFF. 
          YES SO THERE SPECIFIC TO CERTAIN STREETS. SO A, B AND C, YES. YEAH, THE, THE STICK AS YOU, AS YOU CALL IT, REMINISCENT OF WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE, IN THE VILLAGE CENTER, AND THEN I GOT THREE THAT SHINE IN MY BEDROOM WINDOW. AND SO THE, THE DESIRE IS MORE OF A DARK SKY CUT OFF DOWN FOR CAST. YEAH. WITHIN A STILL FIND THAT IN A IN A IN A FIXTURE THAT LOOKS MORE LIKE THIS. YEAH. I'M AFTER RESULTS OF DARK SKY. I DON'T CARE HOW YOU GET THERE, BUT. 
          OKAY. CAN WE AGREE THAT THAT WHATEVER FIXTURE IT IS WILL BE DOWNWARD? SURE. I HAVE, STREET LIGHTS WITH BETTER DOWN CASTING, SUBJECT TO STAFF APPROVAL IS WHAT'S GOING TO GO INTO MY CONDITION. OKAY, I THINK THAT WOULD. THAT WOULD WORK FOR US. YES. OKAY ON THE WAIVERS, WE TALKED ABOUT SOME THINGS. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE BAKED IN THE WAY THEY WERE PRESENTED. SO THE LIMITS OF THE FOUR FOOT SIDEWALK ARE ALREADY DELINEATED. AND THAT'S PART OF THE WAIVER. YES, YES. SO THAT'S ALREADY THERE. JUST MAKING SURE IT'S ALREADY THERE. 
          AND I DON'T NEED A NEW CONDITION. YEP, AND YOU MENTIONED ABOUT IN WAIVER B THAT THE ONE LOT WOULD BE SORT OF ENCLOSED. IT WOULD. YEAH, WE DID ACTUALLY. AND IT DOESN'T SHOW UP VERY WELL. YEAH. SO WE STARTED TO ILLUSTRATE THAT BETTER. WE ARE PROPOSING A THREE FOOT BRICK WALL, THAT WILL HELP DEFINE THE PUBLIC AND PRIVATE REALM IN THAT LOCATION. WE WENT ROUND AND ROUND ON THIS ONE, ACTUALLY, WITH KEITH, KEITH, INITIALLY WE WERE TALKING ABOUT A MORE FORMAL GROVE OF TREES IN THIS AREA. SIMILAR TO THOSE. AND THEN AS WE KIND OF WORK THROUGH IT WITH THE MCCSC AND OURSELVES, IT BECAME A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMAL. AND THEN LETTING THAT BRICK WALL KIND OF BE THE TRANSITION OF, OKAY, HERE'S THE FORMAL TRANSITION INTO THE HOUSE, AND THEN YOU TRANSITION TO THE SOUTH TO BEING A LITTLE BIT MORE NATURAL IN THE WAY THAT'S PLACED IN LANDSCAPED. SO ANYWAY, IT WOULD BE THAT WE HAVE CLEAR DELINEATION OF THE PUBLIC PRIVATE BOUNDARY ON THE HOUSE YARD. YES. OKAY WE STARTED TO WORK ON LANDSCAPING, BUT WE THERE WAS OTHER THINGS WE, YOU KNOW, IN THE PAST DAY OR TWO, WE DIDN'T GET TO THAT ONE. IT TOOK THREE TRIES TO GET LAND AND PARK RIGHT BEFORE WE GOT THE PARK. CLEARLY, CLEARLY SEPARATED, OKAY, WHILE WE'RE ON THE HOUSES, THE IT DOESN'T TALK ABOUT THE SCALE OF THE HOUSES. THE VISUAL THAT YOU PUT UP THERE LOOKS FINE. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE SIZE IS ABOUT SIMILAR TO A TOWNHOME. I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT YOU HAD IN MIND IF YOU COULD SPEAK TO THAT. YEAH. SO OUR INTENT IS THAT EVERYTHING ALONG 605 AND CENTRAL COLLEGE HAS THAT TWO AND A HALF STORY EXPRESSION. SO THE ALSO WOULD HAVE NO MORE THAN TWO AND A HALF TO AGAIN HAVE A SIMILAR HEIGHT, MATCHING THE WEST SIDE OF THE STREET AND THE WIDTH WOULD BE LIKE THREE TOWNHOMES WIDER. IT WOULD BE IN SCALE, IN SCALE WITH THE TOWN. SO THEY SO WE COULD SAY LIKE SIMILAR SIZE AND SCALE TO THE TOWN ADJACENT TOWN. THESE ARE DEFINITELY WIDER, THEY'RE A BIGGER UNIT THAN THE TOWNHOMES. 
          SO THEY ARE A LITTLE BIT WIDER. I TRYING TO FIGURE OUT. SO THERE PROJECT 605 TO THE MIC PLEASE. 
          THE PIECE THAT'S FRONTING 605 IS ROUGHLY THE SCALE OF THE TOWNHOUSES. AND THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET TO. AND THEN IT HAS A LITTLE L SHAPE AND THEN IT WIDENS AS IT GETS ONTO THE SIDE STREET. SO I THINK WE DO MEET THE INTENT YOU'RE TRYING TO EXPRESS. YES AND MAYBE IT'S SOMETHING ABOUT VERBIAGE, ABOUT THE FRONTAGE ON 605 IS OF SIMILAR HEIGHT AND SCALE OF THE 
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ADJACENT TOWNHOMES, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. JUST THE FRONTAGE OF IT. YEAH. OVERALL THE PIECE THAT'S FINE. OKAY. SO SCALE AND THE SCALE OF THE HOUSES ON SIX OF THE TWO HOUSES IS FOR BE THE SCALE OF THE FRONTAGE. FRONTAGE. AS A GENERAL QUESTION, I WANT TO RUN THIS BY STAFF AS WELL AS THE APPLICANT, WE'VE GOT A WEALTH OF MATERIALS HERE. MANY OF WHICH I SUSPECT GO BEYOND WHAT IS ACTUALLY REQUIRED FOR A FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN, BUT TO GIVE CLEAR INTENT. YEAH OKAY, SO FOR A LOT OF THINGS THAT ACTUALLY WOULDN'T BE COVERED THERE, BUT THEY DID SUBMIT, I WAS THINKING A CONDITION THAT FOR ITEMS THAT ARE SUBJECT TO STAFF APPROVAL TO THE ADDITION OF ADDITIONAL MATERIALS SUBMITTED COULD BE USED AS A GUIDE AT YOUR CHOICE FOR STAFF. YEAH, I THINK THAT THAT'S. YEAH, THAT'S THE INTENT. SO THAT YOU COULD SAY YOU SHOWED US THIS. GIVE US THIS IN ANY OF THE ITEMS THAT ARE NEGOTIATED. YES, YES, THAT IS WHAT WE SEE. BECAUSE GO AHEAD. YES. YEAH. 
          BECAUSE I THINK, ONE THING WE WORK THROUGH IS, YOU KNOW, SUBAREA FIVE HAS A MORE FLEXIBILITY, YOU KNOW, SINGLE FAMILY AND DUPLEXES DO NOT REQUIRE AS MUCH REVIEW. SO THAT'S WHY IT'S MORE INSPIRATIONAL, EVEN THOUGH THIS IS ALSO SINGLE FAMILY AND DUPLEXES, THE WAY THE ZONING TEXT WAS WRITTEN, WE HAD TO ACCELERATE THE PROCESS AND WORK WITH OUR PARTNER ON THIS ONE TO COME UP WITH ACTUAL DETAILED ELEVATIONS AND ARCHITECTURE. THE ONE CHALLENGE CANDIDLY, THESE ARE CUSTOM HOMES. AND SO THERE IS THE POTENTIAL THAT AS THE BUYERS ARE WORKING THROUGH THE CUSTOM DESIGN PROCESS AND THE CUSTOM CONSTRUCTION PROCESS, THAT THERE MAY BE MINOR TWEAKS. OUR INTENT IS STILL TO HAVE A CONSISTENT ARCHITECTURE ALONG THOSE MAIN STREETS. BUT, YOU KNOW, THERE MIGHT BE SLIGHT MODIFICATIONS IN THE, IN THE ARCHITECTURE AS THAT'S GETTING 100% FINALIZED. OKAY. AND THE WAIVER ON TWO FEET ABOVE GRADE, WE TALKED ABOUT TWO STEPS. WHAT DOES THE WAIVER GIVE YOU THE ABILITY TO BUILD AT GRADE, ENTRANCE AT GRADE, I SHOULD SAY NO, NO, NO. WELL, COMMERCIAL TASK IS SO WE MEET ADA RESIDENTIAL FOR THE RESIDENTIAL. RESIDENTIAL. RESIDENTIAL IS NOT ALLOWED TO BE AT GRADE. CORRECT. 
          SO THERE WILL BE TWO STEPS. TWO STEPS? THAT'S A 14 FOOT RAMP. IF SOME HOMEOWNER NEEDS A RAMP. THE STEPS ARE ABOUT SEVEN INCHES IN. RISE ON A STANDARD STAIRCASE. LAST I CHECKED, AND THAT'S 14IN, WHICH IS 14FT OF RAMP. WHERE DO WE PUT 14FT OF RAMP WOULD HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED INSIDE THE INSIDE THE UNIT. OKAY. DO THEY HAVE ACCESS AT SOME PLACE I IF I'M IN A WHEELCHAIR FOR SOME REASON. OKAY. SAY PERMANENTLY, DO I? I'M TRYING TO SEE IF WE'VE GOT A REASONABLE SOLUTION ON ACCESS THAT STILL WORKS. I DON'T HAVE A SOLID ANSWER FOR THAT RIGHT NOW. IT'S THERE IS FRONTAGE THERE TO PUT A RAMP INTO THE SITE SPECIFIC DESIGN FOR THAT. FOR EXAMPLE, ALL OF THE PERIMETER WALLS HAVE PLENTY OF PUNCH. I'M SORRY. SO ALL THE HOMES ON 605 AND CENTRAL COLLEGE HAVE PLENTY OF FRONTAGE. THERE WOULD BE NO NO ISSUE IF YOU NEEDED TO PUT A LONGER RAMP IN, IN THE MIDST OF THE PROJECT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PROJECT, THERE'S ALWAYS ROOM TO DO A SIDE RAMP. IF YOU HAD TO TURN IT, TURN IT SIDEWAYS AND BUT, THAT THAT'S THAT. I MEAN, IF YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE THE WAIVER EASIER TO FOR THEY WILL PROBABLY TAKE ADVANTAGE OF BRINGING THE HOMES DOWN. AND SO I THINK THE TWO STEPS IS A GOOD AVERAGE TO GET YOU AT 12 IF IT'S SEVEN INCHES. 
          YES. BUT IF IT'S SIX INCHES THEN IT'S A 12 FOOT RAMP. RIGHT SO, STAFF, DO YOU WANT TO COMMENT ON SOME OF THAT? TWO STEPS VERSUS ACCESSIBILITY. WHERE ARE WE. YEAH, I MEAN, I THINK AS WE MENTIONED IN THE STAFF REPORT AND IN OUR PRESENTATION, THERE HAVE BEEN INSTANCES WHERE ADA ACCESSIBILITY HAS BEEN A CONCERN OF THE BOARD, CITY COUNCIL AND CITY STAFF AND DEVIATIONS HAVE BEEN ALLOWED AT THE MARKET RATE. APARTMENTS AT EPCON AND NOTTINGHAM TRACE, I THINK WE'D BE WILLING TO WORK WITH THE APPLICANT TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING CREATIVE IF, YOU KNOW, THERE WEREN'T STEPS TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE THOSE DOORS ARE DRESSED UP APPROPRIATELY. THANK YOU. WE WOULD CERTAINLY WELCOME THE FLEXIBILITY. THIS I MIGHT NOT BE UNDERSTANDING EXACTLY 
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WHAT ALL IS GOING ON HERE, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THIS THE WAIVER, THE REQUESTED WAIVER WOULD PROBABLY MAKE THIS TYPE OF ACCESSIBILITY ISSUE BETTER EASILY ADDRESSED. IT BEATS A 24 FOOT RAMP, A LOT LIKE HAVING THAT ACTUALLY HELPS ACCESSIBILITY. IT'S JUST HOW DO YOU INTEGRATE THAT WITH THE TWO STAIRCASE THAT WE MIGHT BE REQUIRING WITH THAT WAIVER? CORRECT. IF THERE WAS A NO STEP WAIVER, IT WOULD OBVIOUSLY BE IF YOU WERE JUST AT GRADE WITH NO STEPS, THEN MUCH SIMPLER. SURE. SO MAYBE THERE'S THERE COULD BE A MIDDLE GROUND I GOTCHA. THANK YOU. SO, WE CAME TO THIS, I JUST I LOST THE SENTENCE WHERE I GOT IT WRITTEN DOWN ABOUT HOW WE TALKED ABOUT ACCESSIBILITY AND WAIVER D FROM STAFF POINT OF VIEW. I THINK WHAT WE SAID JUST NOW. YES. YEAH. SO IT WOULD GOSH, I'M FORGETTING IT, YOU KNOW WHERE ADA ACCESSIBILITY IS A CONCERN, IN DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, COMMUNITIES IN OUR DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS, IN OUR COMMUNITY. THE BOARD HAS APPROVED VARIANCES OR WAIVERS AND CITY COUNCIL HAS AS WELL TO ALLOW AT GRADE ENTRANCES, OR, NOT AS TALL, YOU KNOW, ONE STEP OR HALF A STEP, SO THAT THOSE ADA ADA ACCESSIBILITY CONCERNS CAN BE ADDRESSED AS WELL. ALL RIGHT. SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS A TYPICAL TWO STEPS UP. BUT THAT CAN BE RELAXED FOR ACCESSIBILITY. DOES THAT WORK FOR STAFF. DO YOU JUST OKAY. AND I DO THINK THE AT THE ARB ON MONDAY, THE CONDITION ANDREW ADDED, WAS A POSITIVE SLOPE. THERE HAD TO BE A BASICALLY A DOWNWARD SLOPE FROM THE FRONT DOOR TO THE RIGHT OF WAY OR THE SIDEWALK. OKAY AND THAT WOULD CONTRIBUTE TO PROVIDING AN APPROPRIATE ELEVATED ENTRANCE. YES, BUT STILL ABLE TO MEET ACCESSIBILITY NEEDS. I THINK THERE'S A HOUSE IN THE COUNTRY CLUB THAT'S GOT LIKE A STAIRS COMING DOWN AND TWO LOVELY CURVING RAMPS THAT GO UP. I'VE SEEN THAT ONE TOO, SOMEWHERE THAT LOOKED AWESOME AND HIDEOUSLY EXPENSIVE. ALL RIGHT. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ON WAIVER. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION ON THE. LET'S TALK ABOUT THE COMMERCIAL. THE TEN ZERO ZERO ZERO SQUARE FOOT WAIVER, I GUESS, IS WHAT IT IS. THE REQUIREMENTS ARE 200FT■S PER UNIT, WHICH WOULD GIVE YOU A MINIMUM OF 39,000FT■!S OF COMMERCIAL SPACE. YOU'RE PROPOSING 52,000. SO YOU'RE WELL ABOVE THAT. WHEN WE BUILD THAT, IT WOULD BE. AND I KNOW THE 80%, 20% OFF THE OTHER, THE AT LEAST 80% WOULD BE PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE RESTAURANTS, RETAIL THAT KIND OF STUFF. I THINK THAT'S ALL GREAT. 
          IS SOME OF THE SPACE IN THERE THREE STORIES, OR IS IT ALL TWO STORY SPACE IN THAT SUB AREA? THIS AREA IS TWO STORIES. IT'S ALL TWO STORIES. SO. SO AT LEAST 50% OF THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE ON THE GROUND FLOOR OF THAT TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE. IS THAT FAIR STATEMENT, CURRENTLY BALLPARK. 
          THERE'S 20 ZERO ZERO ZERO SQUARE FEET. AND ON UPPER LEVELS, WHICH IS BETWEEN TWO BUILDINGS. OKAY. 
          SO WHICH IN YOUR CURRENT SCENARIO WOULD FIT 30 200 ZERO SQUARE FEET ON THE GROUND LEVEL? CORRECT. MY, MY CONCERN IS, IS I WANTED TO MAKE SURE AT LEAST 50% OF THE REQUIRED MINIMUM WOULD BE ON THE GROUND LEVEL, WHICH IT SOUNDS LIKE, BECAUSE YOU COULD ONLY GO TWO STORIES HIGH. IT'S NOT AN ISSUE FOR ME THAT YOU'RE FINE. I JUST WANTED TO TALK THAT THROUGH. GOTCHA I'M GOOD WITH THAT. OTHERS. NOT FOR ME. I'LL JUST JUMP IN, KIND OF FOLLOWING THAT. AND THIS MAY HAVE BEEN, EXCUSE ME, A COMMENT THAT CHRIS MADE IN HIS PRESENTATION IN THAT SAME AREA. THE WAIVER, THE WAIVER FROM THE ARB, COULD SOME OF THE OFFICE SPACE BE ON THE FIRST FLOOR? IT IS POSSIBLE. 
          YES. OKAY. AND BECAUSE CHRIS MADE A COMMENT ABOUT, I BELIEVE, LIKE 20% OF IT COULD BE ALMOST LIKE A LOBBY SPACE, BUT TECHNICALLY PROBABLY THAT 20% COULD BE OFFICE SPACE. IT COULD BE. YES. OKAY. AND CANDIDLY, ONE OF THE CHALLENGES GOING NOT A CHALLENGE, BUT GOING FORWARD, YOU KNOW, OFFICE SPACE TAKES A DIFFERENT LOOK IS WHAT WE'RE SEEING. SO IN SOME INSTANCES, OFFICE SPACE IS AS ENGAGING AND WELCOMING AS, AS, AS RESTAURANTS. I MEAN, WE EVEN AT EASTON, WE HAVE SOME OFFICE ON, ON THE GROUND FLOOR, RIGHT ON TOP, RIGHT AT A FOUNTAIN 
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LOCATION. AND THEN JUST TO FOLLOW UP AGAIN, I THINK THIS WAS MENTIONED, BUT, ARE ALL OF THE RESIDENTIAL, EVEN THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, NO BASEMENTS. CORRECT. OKAY. SO ALL ARE ON SLAB IT. SO IS THAT THE ONLY AREA THAT POSSIBLY BASEMENTS COULD BE CURRENTLY? YES. OKAY. I DIRECT YOUR ATTENTION TO ELY, WHICH THIS IS BASED ON. THERE'S PARTS OF ELY YOU REALLY, REALLY DON'T WANT THIS TO COPY. AND THAT IS, ELY HAS GOT A WATER PROBLEM IN THE BASEMENTS, IT'S THE HOME OF THE SIX SUMP PUMP HOUSE KIND OF HOUSE. SO, I DON'T KNOW IF THE WATER TABLE ON SUGAR RUN IS ANYTHING LIKE IT IS ON THE ROSE RUN. WE HAVE ALL OF OUR GEOTECH BORINGS. I CAN TELL YOU, BILL RUSH IS LAUGHING IN HEAVEN A LOT RIGHT NOW. OKAY OKAY. THE EXISTING HOME, NOT THE PREVIOUS HOME THAT WAS LOCATED THERE DID HAVE A BASEMENT. OKAY YEAH. AND I DON'T KNOW THE GRADE AT THAT PART OF SUGAR RUN QUITE SO WELL. YOU KNOW, IF IT'S GOT ENOUGH GRADE, THEN YOU'D BE UP ENOUGH ANYWAYS. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WITH QUESTIONS? OH, ACTUALLY, SORRY, I GOT TWO MORE. NO. GO FOR IT. CIRCULATION SO WHEN WE LOOKED AT THIS LAST TIME TO THE WEST, THERE WAS A CONNECTION INTO WHAT WOULD BE THE TACO BELL ROOM, AND I CAN'T SEE CLEARLY IF THAT'S STILL THERE OR NOT. IS THAT STILL PART OF THE, OVERALL DEVELOPMENT? YES. SO PER THE ZONING TEXT, WE SORRY, I'M GOING TO TRY TO GET THERE REAL QUICK. THERE WE GO, PER THE ZONING TEXT, WE NEED TO HAVE THAT AS A BASICALLY AS A CONNECTION OVER TO THAT PROPERTY, IF WE DO NOT HAVE APPROVALS TO CONNECT, IT WOULD BE BOLLARD, CURRENTLY THROUGH DISCUSSIONS AND NEGOTIATIONS, WE DO NOT CURRENTLY HAVE APPROVAL TO CONNECT TO THEIR PROPERTY. SO WE WILL BE BALLOTING AND, I SUSPECT ATTITUDES MIGHT CHANGE WHEN THIS IS OPEN AND PEOPLE ARE, YOU KNOW, THEY MAY WANT MORE TRAFFIC OVER THERE. SO IT IS A YOU TALK ABOUT LET'S TALK ABOUT COLUMBUS. YES AND AGAIN THIS IS THE JURISDICTIONAL LINE RIGHT HERE, SO THIS IS THE CITY OF COLUMBUS. THIS IS NEW ALBANY, IT IS A PRIVATE OWNER. AND, AND WE DO NOT CURRENTLY HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH THEM. OKAY. DOES THAT CAUSE ANY PROBLEMS FROM US? FROM A CITY POINT OF VIEW? SO I'M SORRY. AS I SAID, I DON'T THINK IT CREATES ANY ISSUES FROM A, FROM A CITY STANDPOINT. YOU KNOW, THE PLAN ALWAYS ENCOURAGES CONNECTIVITY. THE APPLICANT HAS MET ALL THEIR OBLIGATIONS AND HAS DESIGNED A STUB TO CONNECT IN. YEAH. UNFORTUNATELY, AS MR. LYDA SAID, IT'S WITHIN A DIFFERENT JURISDICTION. SO WE CAN'T FORCE THAT CONNECTION IN THIS CASE. BUT CERTAINLY ALL THE PIECES ARE THERE TO CONNECT IN THE FUTURE. BUT FROM A CIRCULATION STANDPOINT, IT CERTAINLY IS STILL A VERY STRONG FROM A PLANNING PERSPECTIVE. OKAY. AND THAT SECTION IS DESIGNED TO WRITE JUST TO ALLOW THAT CONNECTION. YOU KNOW, BEYOND JUST THE BOLLARDS AND THE STUB. IT'S KIND OF DESIGNED TO BE A THROUGH CONNECTION. YEAH. ONE DAY IT'S READY FOR IT. IT'S NOT ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY FOR THE PLAN TO BE SUCCESSFUL, BUT WE, WE HOPE IT'LL ULTIMATELY GET THERE. YEAH. AND YOU'VE DONE EVERYTHING YOU CAN. YES CURRENTLY. WELL, WE COULD WRITE A BIGGER CHECK, BUT WE'RE WE'RE NOT READY TO DO THAT QUITE YET. OR HAVE OR HAVE, YOU KNOW, HALF A HUNDRED OF YOUR RESIDENTS WALK OVER TO TACO BELL AND TELL THE MANAGER, YOU KNOW, I WOULD SHOP HERE IF I COULD GET MY CAR HERE, BUT I CAN'T GO THROUGH THE DRIVE THROUGH BECAUSE YOU WON'T GIVE US ACCESS. THERE WE GO. AND WE DO ALSO. THEN HAVE, AS REQUIRED. WE PROVIDED A STUB THERE. IF WE'RE ULTIMATELY REQUIRED TO CONNECT THERE AS WELL. OKAY. AND THEN A LOT OF PREVIOUS HEARINGS AND COMMENTS WERE ABOUT THE SLOWING OF TRAFFIC ON 605. AND, AND I KNOW THE CITY IS LOOKING AT PUTTING IN THE STREET PARKING TO DO THAT. AND THAT'S OUTSIDE OF YOUR RESPONSIBILITY. BUT THIS IS MORE OF A QUESTION FOR STAFF. 
          IS WHAT LIKE I KNOW IT'S NOT APPROVED, BUT WHAT'S THE IS THE IS IT GOING TO HAPPEN IS WHAT'S THE TIMING AND COULD THAT SHOULD THAT AND COULD THAT BE A CONDITION TO HELP MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE GOT THE, THE PROPER SLOWING. SO YEAH. SO THE CITY COUNCIL'S MEETING EVEN JUST TOMORROW AND THROUGHOUT THE REST OF THE YEAR TO DO A CAPITAL BUDGET RETREAT, THIS WOULD HAVE TO COME FROM OUR CAPITAL, OUR, THE CAPITAL PORTION OF OUR CITY BUDGET IN ORDER TO FUND FUND THESE PROJECTS. WE'VE WORKED WITH THE DEVELOPER TO GET ESTIMATES TOGETHER FOR THE BURIAL OF THE, YOU KNOW, OVERHEAD UTILITIES. AND THEN AT THE STREETSCAPE, STREETSCAPE IMPROVEMENTS ON THERE AS WELL. SO IT WOULD HAVE TO BE THAT CITY COUNCIL'S DETERMINATION TO GET 
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THAT FUNDED. I WOULD SAY, TOO, FROM THE CONDITION STANDPOINT, I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN PLACE A CONDITION BECAUSE IT'S ACTUALLY AN ODOT STANDARD. SO FROM THE CITY'S PERSPECTIVE, AS CHRIS MENTIONED, WE'RE STILL VERY MUCH PARTNERING AND VERY MUCH TALKING ABOUT CONSTRUCTION, SEQUENCING FOR THE THAT STREET IMPROVEMENTS AND THE BURIAL OF LINES. I THINK, THAT THE CITY STILL COMMITS TO, YOU KNOW, DOING THESE IMPROVEMENTS AND WORKING TOWARDS LOWERING THAT, THAT SPEED LIMIT ALONG THAT SECTION OF 605. SO THAT'S REALLY I SEE IT AS AN OBLIGATION FROM THE CITY STAFF'S PERSPECTIVE. AND SOMETHING WE'RE STILL WORKING TOWARDS. SO WE COULD ADD IN HERE NOT A CONDITION, BUT A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION THAT THAT BE HIGHLY PRIORITIZED IN THE FUNDING IN ORDER TO MAKE THIS PROJECT SUCCESSFUL. WOULD THAT BE FAIR? I YES, IT'S VERY FAIR. I AGREE WITH YOU AND I WILL PASS IT ALONG TO MY BRETHREN TOMORROW. 
          OKAY DON'T LEAVE THE MEETING WITHOUT ME TELLING YOU. WELL, I SHOULD JUST SAY IT. THE. WE HAVE A LEFT TURN LANE ON US 62 NORTH OF THOMPSON AND SOUTH OF WHATEVER THE ROAD IS JUST BELOW LAMPTON PARK. AND THERE'S A LEFT TURN LANE THAT WILL NEVER BE USED FOR ANYTHING. CAN THAT BE TURNED INTO A BOULEVARD? YOU'VE GOT A LEFT TURN LANE AT THOMPSON AND YOU HAVE A LEFT TURN LANE AT THE ROAD. I FORGET WHAT IT IS. IT GOES INTO THE COUNTRY CLUB BELOW LAMPTON PARK AND SO YOU'VE GOT THE STRIPED OUT AND THE NEW PAVEMENT, AND THEN YOU'VE GOT THIS ZONE FOR, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY FEET THAT IS, ONE LEFT TURN LANE WIDE. AND WE'RE NEVER GOING TO USE IT. CAN WE PUT TREES THERE WHICH WOULD ALSO SOFTEN THE AIRWAY. IS A COUNCIL MATTER NOT LET'S GET THIS. LET'S GET THIS PROJECT BEHIND US AND THE SKY'S THE LIMIT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. SORRY SORRY TO. IT'S BEEN ON MY LIST EVER SINCE THE NEW PAVEMENT WENT DOWN. ANYONE IS BACK TO HEAR ME, OKAY? NOT FOR ME. ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WITH QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? IF SO, COME TO THE MIC, GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND ASK. WOW. OKAY I WAS EXPECTING A LOT MORE FOLKS. COME ON WE GO. SO LET ME FIND MY. I MOVE TO ACCEPT THE STAFF REPORTS AND RELATED DOCUMENTS INTO THE RECORD FOR FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN 53 2024. DO I HEAR A SECOND ON THE DOCUMENTS MOTION? I WILL SECOND, DID WE GET ANY NEW DOCUMENTS TONIGHT OR. IT'S ALL BEEN IN THE PACKAGE. I DID GIVE YOU THAT LIST OF CONDITIONS THAT I THOUGHT THAT WAS ECHOED SOMEWHERE IN HERE FROM. OKAY INCLUDING THAT SHEET. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? CLEAR THE ROLL, PLEASE, MR. KIRBY? YES, MR. LARSON? YES MR. SHELL? YES, MISS BRIGGS? YES. THE MOTION PASSES. THERE ARE FOUR VOTES TO ADMIT THE DOCUMENTS, INCLUDING THE DOCUMENT DISTRIBUTED BY PLANNER CHRISTIAN. THANK YOU. I MOVE FOR APPROVAL ON FILE DEVELOPMENT PLAN 53 2024. SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS IN THE STAFF REPORT AND ADDITIONALLY CONDITION FOUR, FOR ITEMS SUBJECT TO STAFF APPROVAL, THE ADDITIONAL MATERIALS SUBMITTED CAN BE USED AS A GUIDE IF STAFF WISHES. OKA. 
          FIVE, STREET LIGHTS, LOOKING FOR SOMETHING THAT IS, BETTER DOWNCASTING THAN THE STICK. 
          SUBJECT TO STAFF APPROVAL. SIX ON WAIVER. BE CLEAR DELINEATION OF THE PUBLIC PRIVATE BOUNDARY ON THE HOUSE YARDS WAIVER. BE DO YOU WANT TO DO THE WAIVERS INDEPENDENTLY AS YOU GO, ONE AT A TIME. WHAT? I WAS GOING TO INTEGRATE ALL OF THEM IN THE MOTION FOR THE THING UNLESS COUNCIL, UNLESS THE COMMISSION PREFERS OTHERWISE. I WOULD HAVE DONE IT ALL TOGETHER, BUT DEFERRED AS A PACKAGE. DO WE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT? LEGALLY, WE'RE FINE WITH THAT. 
          OKAY CLEAR DELINEATION OF PUBLIC, PRIVATE, OF THE PUBLIC, PRIVATE BOUNDARY. THANK YOU. ON THE HOUSE YARD. SEVEN, THE SCALE OF THE HOUSES SUBJECT TO WAIVER BE, BE MATCHED TO THE 605 FRONTAGE AS DISCUSSE. AS YOU WOULD SAY IN SUB AREA THREE. JUST TO BE CLEAR, OR 
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WAIVER BE APPLIED TO EXACTLY TWO HOUSES. YOU SAID WAIVER BE OKAY. YEAH. SORRY. I'M RIGHT. YEP H WAIVER D ACCESSIBILITY. THE TWO STEP, MINIMUM CAN BE RELAXED FOR ACCESSIBILITY. OR WHERE ACCESSIBILITY IS A CONCERN. FOR THE CONDITIONS. CLEAR? YES. STAFF YES. I WOULD RECOMMEND IF YOU GUYS CONSIDER JUST HAVING ONE CONDITION THAT ADDS ALL THE A OR B CONDITIONS. OKAY, ITEM NINE, INCLUDING THE ARB CONDITIONS. AND THAT WOULD BE SUBJECT TO STAFF APPROVAL, RIGHT? YEP HOPEFULLY I THOUGHT I STARTED THE MOTION SUBJECT TO STAFF APPROVAL. IF I DIDN'T, IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE FAIR. OKAY, AND NOTING IT'S NOT A CONDITION, BUT NOTING THAT THIS ALSO INCLUDES APPROVAL OF THE WAIVERS AS AMENDED BY THESE CONDITIONS. THANK YOU. IS THE MOTION CLEAR? YES. OKAY. DO I HEAR A SECOND? SECOND? ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? OKAY. DO THE ROLL, PLEASE, MR. KIRBY? YES, MISS BRIGGS? YES, MR. SHELL? YES. MR. LARSON. YES, THE MOTION PASSES WITH FOUR VOTES IN FAVOR OF THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND THE WAIVERS, WITH THE CONDITIONS LISTED IN THE STAFF REPORT AND THE FOLLOWING ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS. CONDITION NUMBER FOUR, ADDITIONAL ITEMS SUBMITTED CAN BE USED IF STAFF WISHES, IS THAT RIGHT, YEAH, AS A GUIDE. 
          OKAY. IN OTHER WORDS, STAFF CAN ENFORCE THOSE IF THEY WISH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NUMBER FIVE, STREET LIGHTS WITH BETTER DOWNCASTING THAN A STICK. SUBJECT TO STAFF APPROVAL. YEP. 
          REGARDING WAIVER B, CONDITION SIX, CLEAR DELINEATION OF PUBLIC PRIVATE BOUNDARY ON THE HOUSE YARD. YES REGARDING WAIVER B, CONDITION SEVEN SCALE OF THE HOUSE IS TO BE MATCHED WITH 605 FRONTAGE. REGARDING WAIVER D CONDITION EIGHT TWO STEPS CAN BE TO THE TWO STEP MINIMUM CAN BE RELAXED FOR ACCESSIBILITY CONDITION NINE INCLUDING THE A OR B CONDITIONS SUBJECT TO STAFF APPROVAL, AND ALSO NOTING THAT THIS INCLUDES THE WAIVERS AS AMENDED BY THESE CONDITIONS. YES I TOTALLY CHALLENGE YOU TO IMPRESS THE DAYLIGHTS OUT OF US. CONGRATULATIONS. CONGRATULATIONS EVERYBODY. GOOD JOB. BEFORE YOU ALL LEAVE, I JUST. CAN I JUST SAY SOMETHING? POINT OF PRIVILEGE. I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I, I'VE LIVED WITH THIS PROJECT FOR SO LONG, AND, I FEEL LIKE WE'VE LEARNED SO MUCH, AND I WANT TO REALLY THANK ALL THE RESIDENTS WHO CAME OUT, ESPECIALLY TRICIA SANTINI, WHO'S SITTING HERE TO WORK WITH THE DEVELOPER TO MAKE THIS PROJECT BETTER. I FEEL LIKE THIS DEVELOPER DID. YOU ALL DID SUCH A GREAT JOB WORKING WITH THOSE RESIDENTS. STAFF, HATS OFF TO YOU. ALL THE HARD WORK THAT YOU DID, BUT I FEEL LIKE THIS PROCESS MADE US A BETTER COMMUNITY BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE WE HAD A MORE INFORMED RESIDENTIAL BASE THAT WAS WILLING TO ENGAGE IN THESE MEETINGS. LIKE I HAVE NEVER SEEN. AND I THINK OUR STAFF LEARNED A LOT. AND I JUST I JUST WANT TO CONGRATULATE EVERYBODY AND THANK YOU FOR STICKING THROUGH THIS PROCESS TOGETHER. AND PLEASE DO IT IN FUTURE DEVELOPMENTS TOO. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER BUSINESS BEFORE THE COMMISSION TONIGHT FOR MEMBERS FOR COMMENT? I THINK WE JUST GOT HIM HERE. I'M SORRY. SARAH, NOTHING FOR ME. NO THANKS. NO COMMENT. GOOD JOB EVERYBODY. NO FURTHER COMMENT. AND WITH THAT
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