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          MEMBERS. I'D LIKE TO CALL THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING FOR MONDAY, OCTOBER 21ST. CAN I HEAR 
          [I. Call to order]
THE ROLL, PLEASE? MR. KIRBY. PRESENT. MR. WALLACE. PRESENT. MR. SHELL. PRESENT. MR. LARSON. 
          PRESENT. MISS BRIGGS. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER. WILTROUT. HERE. ALL VOTING MEMBERS ARE PRESENT. 
          [III. Action on minutes: September 16, 2024]
WE HAVE A QUORUM. THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY CORRECTIONS TO THE MINUTES FROM SEPTEMBER 16TH? NOT FROM ME. AND FROM ME. NEIL. SO YOUR MOTION FOR THE MINUTES FOR SEPTEMBER 16TH. I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM OUR SEPTEMBER 16TH, 2024 MEETING. YOUR SECOND? I'LL SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? ON THE MINUTES? OKAY. THE ROLL PLEASE. MR. SHELL. YES. MR. LARSON? YES. 
          MR. WALLACE. ABSTAIN. MR. KIRBY. YES. MISS BRIGGS. YES. MOTION PASSES WITH FOUR VOTES TO APPROVE THE MINUTES. AS SUBMITTED. DO WE HAVE ANY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS TO THE AGENDA TONIGHT? NO. OKAY. WOULD EVERYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION TONIGHT PLEASE RISE. 
          DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? THANK YOU. AND NOW IT'S TIME TO SILENCE OUR CELL PHONES. ITEM FIVE IS HEARING OF VISITORS FOR ITEMS THAT ARE NOT ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA. DO WE HAVE ANY SUCH VISITORS TONIGHT? HEARING NONE, WE MOVE ON TO OUR CASES. OUR 
          [VI. Cases]
FIRST ONE IS CONDITIONAL USE. 72. CAN WE HEAR FROM STAFF? YES. THANK YOU. THE 40.39 ACRE SITE IS LOCATED AT 4761 KITZMILLER ROAD AND IS PART OF THE ESTATE PROPERTY. THE BLUE STAR DEPICTS THE EXISTING CELL TOWER WHERE IT IS LOCATED. THE REQUEST IS FOR A CONDITIONAL USE TO ALLOW FOR A 34 FOOT CELL TOWER EXTENSION. HERE YOU CAN SEE THE PROPOSED EXTENSION, WHICH WOULD INCREASE THE EXISTING CELL TOWER FROM 75FT TO 109FT, AND AS DEPICTED IN RED, WOULD BE THE 34FT EXTENSION ON THE TOP. IN SUMMARY, THIS IS THE ONLY TOWER THAT T-MOBILE CAN MOUNT TO MEET THE COMMUNITY'S COVERAGE NEEDS. THE SITE IS HEAVILY WOODED AND THE CELL TOWER IS SURROUNDED BY TREES, AND ADDITIONALLY IT'S SET BACK OVER 800FT FROM KITZMILLER ROAD. IT WILL NOT ALTER THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AS THE TOWER IS ALREADY EXISTING. AND LASTLY, ALLOWING THE EXTENSION PROMOTES CO-LOCATION OF WIRELESS TELECOMMUNICATION FACILITIES RATHER THAN CONSTRUCTION OF AN ADDITIONAL SINGLE USE TOWER. AND I'M HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANY ENGINEERING? I DON'T HAVE ANY ENGINEERING. THE ENGINEER IS OFF TONIGHT BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO COMMENTS. THANK YOU. CAN WE HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT, PLEASE? EXCUSE ME. HI. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS ARIEL STOUT. I AM WITH FULLERTON ENGINEERING AND WE ARE THE ONES REPRESENTING T-MOBILE IN THIS APPLICATION. I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. I THINK SARAH DID A REALLY GOOD JOB EXPLAINING IT. AS WE SAID, WE ARE HAVING TROUBLE FINDING PLACES FOR T-MOBILE TO INSTALL THEIR EQUIPMENT AND TO BE ABLE TO GIVE THE COVERAGE TO THE AREA THAT IS NEEDED. THIS IS WHERE WE WOULD LIKE TO GO, AND THE EXTENSION IS GOING TO HELP US TO MEET THAT. HOW FAR FROM THE NEAREST LOT LINE IS THE BASE OF THE TOWER? OR IS IT OVER THE HEIGHT OF THE TOWER? IT IS? YEAH. THE SETBACK IS OVER THE HEIGHT FROM THE FRONTAGE. IT IS OVER 800FT RIGHT FROM THE NEAREST NEIGHBOR. FROM THE NEAREST. 
          I WOULD HAVE TO GET THAT INFORMATION FOR YOU. I. THE NEAREST NEIGHBOR IS GOING TO BE TO THE EAST, ON THE EAST SIDE OF KITZMILLER ROAD. AND I'M GOING TO GUESS IT'S PROBABLY OVER 1000FT. OKAY. THE CLOSEST. THANK YOU. DID WE HEAR ANYTHING FROM ANY OF THE NEIGHBORS? NO, WE DID NOT. WE? I'M SORRY. WHAT WAS THAT? WE HAVE ABOUT THE LACK OF SERVICE. OH, I SEE FOLKS IN FARM SERVICES. EVERYBODY MISSES WCPO'S TOWER AT 300 ODD FEET UP. YEAH. QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION. JUST. YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT OR THE STAFF MENTIONED. ONE OF THE ALTERNATIVES WAS TO BUILD ANOTHER TOWER. THAT COULD BE AN ALTERNATIVE IF WE CAN'T MAKE 
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THIS TOWER FIT OUR NEEDS AND WHAT WHAT KIND OF SIZE WOULD THAT BE? AND WHERE WOULD THAT BE OR. FOR THIS KIND OF COVERAGE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT LIKE 109FT FOR THAT. I WOULD ASSUME A TOWER MAYBE 120. I WOULDN'T THINK IT WOULD BE TOO MUCH TALLER THAN THAT. AND THEN BUT THAT, OF COURSE, WE'D HAVE TO GO LOOK TO SEE WHO'S A WILLING NEIGHBOR AND THAT KIND OF ZONING DISTRICT AND WHAT THAT WOULD ENTAIL TO, YOU KNOW, BUILD THE TOWER THERE. NOT IDEAL TO PUT ANOTHER TOWER ON IT. NO, I'M NOT VERY POPULAR WHEN THAT HAPPENS. I UNDERSTAND. THANK YOU. OTHER QUESTIONS? NOTHING FROM ME NOW. I MOVE TO ACCEPT THE STAFF REPORTS, RELATED DOCUMENTS IN THE RECORD FOR CONDITIONAL USE 72 2024. DO I HEAR A SECOND ON THE DOCUMENTS? MOTION? I WILL SECOND IT. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE DOCUMENTS MOTION? OKAY. DO THE ROLL, PLEASE. MR. KIRBY. YES. 
          MR. LAWSON. YES. MR. SHELL. YES. MR. WALLACE. YES. MISS BRIGGS. YES. MOTION PASSES WITH ALL VOTES IN FAVOR OF ADMITTING THE DOCUMENT. DO I HEAR A MOTION FOR APPROVAL FOR CONDITIONAL USE? 72. I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE APPLICATION Q 72 202 FOR HERE. I DON'T THINK THERE ARE ANY COMMENTS. SO AS IS OKAY. OH, YOU'RE A SECOND. ON THE MOTION FOR THE CONDITIONAL USE. SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION. GIVE ME THE ROLL PLEASE. MR. LARSON? YES. MISS BRIGGS. YES. MR. SHELL. YES. MR. KIRBY. YES. MR. WALLACE. YES. THE MOTION PASSES WITH ALL VOTES IN FAVOR OF APPROVAL OF THE APPLICATION. GOOD LUCK. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. 
          TAKES US TO VARIANCE 68 2024. CAN WE HEAR FROM STAFF, PLEASE? THANK YOU. SO THIS PROPERTY IS IN THE NEW ALBANY COUNTRY CLUB, SECTION 28, KNOWN AS EBRINGTON AND THE PROPERTY IS WEST OF EBRINGTON ROAD AND SOUTH OF HIGHGROVE. THE APPLICANT SEEKS TO EXPAND THE EXISTING DETACHED GARAGE TO 995FT■!S, WHERE CODE ALLOWS A MAXIMUM OF 800FT■!S BY ADDING AN ADDITION THAT INCLUDES A FULL HOUSE AND A SPACE FOR A THIRD PARKING SPOT. THE THIRD CAR PARKING SPOT IS PROPOSED TO THE NORTH UP HERE AT THE TOP AND TO THE SOUTH IS THE POOL HOUSE. THE APPLICANT IS OPTIMIZING THE USE OF THE EXISTING STRUCTURE TO ENHANCE THE LOTS, FUNCTIONALITY AND QUALITY. THESE HIGH QUALITY ADDITIONS COMPLY WITH CITY CODIFIED ORDINANCES AND DO NOT INFRINGE ON THE EXISTING EASEMENTS. THE VARIANCE DOES NOT APPEAR TO BE SUBSTANTIAL, AS THE GARAGE EXPANSION WOULD INCREASE LOT COVERAGE BY ONLY 3%, AND THE EXPANSION FACES THE NEIGHBOR'S BACKYARD. THE VARIANCE PRESERVES THE SPIRIT AND INTENT OF THE ZONING REQUIREMENT BECAUSE IT REFLECTS THE SUBDIVISIONS, DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS, ALLOWING FOR A LARGER, BUILDABLE FOOTPRINT ON SMALLER LOTS AND DENSER DEVELOPMENT. THE LARGER DETACHED BUILDING PRESERVES THE GOAL OF THE CLUSTER DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS TO PLACE BUILDINGS CLOSER TOGETHER. AND THE AND YOU CAN SEE LIKE EBRINGTON HERE AND HOW THEY'RE PRETTY CLOSE TO EACH OTHER. AND THIS TO THE SOUTH IS THE DETACHED GARAGE. AND YOU CAN SEE IT'S PRETTY CLOSE TO THE PROPERTY LINE. THE DRIVEWAY EVEN SORT OF ENCROACHES ONTO THE OTHER PROPERTY. THE PROPOSED ADDITION WILL NOT ALTER THE NEIGHBOR'S NEIGHBORHOOD'S CHARACTER BECAUSE ITS ARCHITECTURAL STYLE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE EXISTING HOME. IT FEATURES MATCHING WINDOWS, FOLDING DOORS, AND HARDY BOARD SIDING WITH A BRICK WATER TABLE TO MATCH THE HOME AND A AND ENRICH ITS ESTHETIC. THE ELEVATION FACING THE NEIGHBOR TO THE NORTH FACES A SINGLE WINDOW, AND THIS IS THE NORTH ELEVATION RIGHT HERE WITH THE SINGLE WINDOW. THE SUBDIVISION ALLOWS CLUSTER DEVELOPMENT, AND THE LARGER BUILDING SUPPORTS THE GOALS OF FOSTERING A DENSER BUILDING PATTERN BY POSITIONING STRUCTURES CLOSER TOGETHER. THIS INCLUDES ZERO LOT LINE MINIMUMS. FURTHERMORE, THE DESIGN OF THE NEW ADDITION ENHANCES THE LOTS ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN AND IS PROPERLY SCALED TO THE PRIMARY RESIDENCE. THE DETACHED GARAGE COMPLIES WITH ALL OTHER APPLICABLE ZONING CODES, AND AT THIS TIME STAFF WILL TAKE QUESTIONS. IF THE POOL HOUSE WAS NOT IN PART OF IT OR YOU WERE 
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ONLY EXPANDING IT. THE GARAGE ONE DIRECTION, YOU'D BE UNDER 800FT■!S. WOULD THAT STILL BE A VARIANCE OR WOULD IT BE COMPLIANT? NO, IT WOULD NOT BE A VARIANCE. IF IT WAS UNDER 800FT■!S, THAT WOULD BE PERMITTD BY CODE. AND SINCE IT'S A POOL HOUSE ON THE LEFT, WAS THAT STILL BE CONSIDERED GARAGE OR WOULD IT BE A DIFFERENT USE? SO OUR CODE ACTUALLY DOESN'T DEFINE THE USES, SO IT JUST TREATS ALL DETACHED STRUCTURES AS ONE. SO WHEN WE DID A CODE UPDATE, MAYBE LIKE 4 OR 5 YEARS AGO, WE USED TO HAVE DIFFERENT REGULATIONS JUST FOR GARAGES AND DIFFERENT POOL HOUSES. AND WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF PRODUCTS LIKE THIS WHERE IT'S SORT OF MIXED USES. SO WE DON'T. SO WE HAVE A11 STANDARD THAT FITS ALL REGARDLESS OF THE USE. SO THEY ARE ALLOWED TO HAVE LIKE A GARAGE THAT ALSO SERVES AS A POOL HOUSE. BUT REGARDLESS OF HOW THE BUILDING IS USED, IT CAN BE NO MORE THAN 800FT■!S. AD COULD THERE BE MULTIPLE BUILDINGS AS LONG AS THEY'RE UNDER 800FT■!S EACH? YEAH, I BELIEVE UP TO TWO YOU CAN HAVE A MAXIMUM OF TWO DETACHED STRUCTURES OF ANY KIND. THANK YOU. CAN THE APPLICANT. GOOD EVENING. TODD PARKER WITH F5 DESIGN REPRESENTING MR. ELLIOT CAMPBELL, THE PROPERTY OWNER. YEAH. SIERRA SUMMED UP PRETTY WELL OUR APPLICATION IN THE IN THE STAFF REPORT. AND YOU KNOW, PART OF WHAT WE'RE DOING, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WE MR. CAMPBELL DESIRES A ANOTHER PARKING SPACE AS WELL AS A SMALL POOL HOUSE STRUCTURE. AND WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE CREATING THE SYMMETRY OF THE STRUCTURE FOR THE, YOU KNOW, DESIGN GUIDELINE REQUIREMENT, WHICH ALSO, YOU KNOW, THIS BACKS UP TO THE GOLF COURSE. SO WE'VE ADDED A LEVEL OF DETAIL AT THE ARC'S REQUEST WITH THE TYPE OF PANELING AND THINGS WE'RE DOING ON THE EXTERIOR TO KEEP THE, YOU KNOW, NOT JUST LOOKING LIKE A BIG, MASSIVE STRUCTURE. SO. YOU KNOW, AND WE HAVE MR. CAMPBELL HAS SPOKEN WITH THE NEIGHBORS TO THE NORTH, AND THEY HAVE NO ISSUE WITH THE STRUCTURE. AND OBVIOUSLY TO THE SOUTH THERE'S A POND AND A VACANT LOT. SO THERE'S REALLY WE'RE NOT REALLY AFFECTING ANY NEIGHBORS IN ANY, ANY WAY WITH THIS. AND PART OF THE OTHER ISSUE IS THE WHEN THE HOME WAS BUILT, THE SPACE BETWEEN THE TWO ORIGINAL GARAGES IS SO TIGHT THAT WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE AT LEAST ONE SPOT PRETTY EASY TO GET INTO. SO. SO ANY QUESTIONS? IS THERE AN ATTACHED GARAGE AS WELL? THERE IS. HOW MANY BAYS? TWO. YEAH. IT'S THE RECTANGLE JUST OPPOSITE THE STRUCTURE. SARAH, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THAT? THE ONE YOU WERE JUST ON? THANKS. AND I GUESS I CAN ADD, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY THE WAY THE PROPERTY SETS UP IT, IT DOESN'T MAKE A LOT OF SENSE TO ADD A SECOND STRUCTURE FOR THE POOL HOUSE OR A THIRD, YOU KNOW, SECOND DETACHED STRUCTURE, BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF EASEMENTS. THE FURTHER SOUTH WE GO. AND COULD YOU WALK US THROUGH THOSE EASEMENTS? WELL, TO THE WEST THERE, THAT'S A MAJOR UTILITY SEWER EASEMENT. SO THE FURTHER SOUTH WE GO, THE TIGHTER IT GETS TO THE POOL AND POOL DECK AREA. AND ON THE VERY SOUTH THERE, I BELIEVE THAT'S A SEWER EASEMENT. AND THEN THERE'S A, THERE'S A I THINK IT'S A PRESERVATION EASEMENT OFF THAT POND AS WELL. AND IF WE PUT A STRUCTURE DOWN THERE AS ALSO, I MEAN, THE ENLARGED SITE PLAN OR THE OVERALL, THIS ENTIRE CORNER OF THE PROPERTY IS THAT PRESERVATION ZONE OFF THE POND. 
          AND THEN WE WOULD ALSO BE INHIBITING THE USE OF THE GOLF COURSE. HOW BIG WOULD THE STRUCTURE BE IF THE POOL HOUSE WAS TAKEN OFF AND ONLY THE GARAGE WAS ADDED? IT WOULD BE 765FT■!S, SO THAT WOULD MEET THE THAT WOULD MEET THE CORRECT. SO THERE WOULD BE A SOLUTION WHERE YOU COULD TAKE THE POOL HOUSE AND SEPARATE IT AND SLIDE IT DOWN SOUTH AND SOLVE THE SAME USE THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO GET AFTER POTENTIALLY. BUT IF WE DO THAT, THEN WE'RE ALSO MAKING IT MORE DIFFICULT FOR CONSTRUCTION WITH UTILITIES AND I GUESS THE OTHER THING WOULD BE I THINK WE HAVE TO SEPARATE THE STRUCTURES BY TEN FEET. IS THAT TRUE? SIERRA? YES. SO THE SETBACK 
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REQUIREMENTS DO REQUIRE THAT DETACHED STRUCTURES BE TEN FEET FROM THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE AND ALL OTHER DETACHED STRUCTURES. YEAH. WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE ON HERE? COULD YOU USE A POINTER. IF WE DID A SEPARATE STRUCTURE? YES, PLEASE. AT THE 1010. WELL, AT THE TEN FOOT SEPARATION, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE. YEAH. THAT'S PROBABLY TEN FEET. OKAY. BUT AGAIN THEN IT STARTS TO IMPACT THE VIEWS OUT OF THE MAIN LIVING SPACE OF THE HOUSE, YOU KNOW? AND IF WE MOVED IT FURTHER DOWN, I MEAN, THAT COMPLICATES OUR UTILITIES. OBVIOUSLY WOULD COST A LITTLE MORE TO. OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION. ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC HAVE ANY COMMENT? I MOVED TO ACCEPT THE STAFF REPORTS AND RELATED DOCUMENTS INTO THE RECORD FOR VARIANCE. 68 2020 43A SECOND ON THE DOCUMENTS MOTION. I'LL SECOND AND DISCUSSION ON THE DOCUMENTS. COULD YOU THE ROLL, PLEASE? MR. KIRBY? YES. MR. WALLACE? YES. MR. LARSON. YES. MR. SHELL. YES. MISS BRIGGS. YES. MOTION PASSES WITH ALL VOTES IN FAVOR OF ADMITTING THE DOCUMENTS TO YOUR MOTION FOR THE VARIANCE ITSELF. I MOVE TO APPROVE APPLICATION. VA R 68 2024. BASED ON THE FINDINGS IN THE STAFF REPORT. BUT THERE ARE NO CONDITIONS CURRENTLY. DO I HEAR A SECOND? SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION OF THE MOTION TO THE ROLL, PLEASE? MR. WALLACE? NO. MISS BRIGGS. YES. MR. LARSON. 
          NO. MR. KIRBY. NO. MR. SHELL. NO. THE MOTION FAILS WITH ONE VOTE IN FAVOR AND FOUR VOTES AGAINST APPROVAL OF THE APPLICATION. FOR THE RECORD, WOULD YOU MIND EXPLAINING WHY? YEAH. JUST GETTING READY. YES, I VOTED NO BECAUSE I DON'T BELIEVE IT MEETS THE PRACTICAL DIFFICULTIES REQUIREMENTS OF THE DUNCAN TEST. THE PROPERTY WILL CERTAINLY YIELD A REASONABLE RETURN WITHOUT THE VARIANCE. THERE'S AN ALTERNATIVE TO THE VARIANCE THAT THAT WAS DISCUSSED DURING THE DISCUSSION OF THE MOTION. AND FOR THOSE PRIMARY REASONS WHY I VOTED NO. YEAH. IN ADDITION, THE. ALL MY OTHER MATTERS AND THE SPECIAL CONDITIONS. NOT PARTICULAR TO THE PROPERTY OR THE STRUCTURE. ANY OTHERS THAT PEOPLE SAW ON THE DOCUMENT CRITERIA OR OTHER REASONS WHY THEY VOTED NO? MY REASONS ARE THE SAME THAT BEEN STATED ALREADY. THANK YOU. YEAH, I'LL JUMP ON THOSE AND THEN JUST MY BIG THING IS THERE'S AN ALTERNATE SOLUTION. TAKES US TO 
          [VII. Other business]
OUR OTHER BUSINESS. INFORMAL REVIEW OF COUNTRY CLUB SECTION 30 REZONING AND PRELIMINARY PLAT APPLICATION. 
          SO THIS. THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. SECTION 30. I THINK YOU GUYS ARE ALL HERE. TOM, THIS IS THE EAST NINE AREA. RIGHT. OKAY. RIGHT. WE ZONED AND PLATTED THIS NEIGHBORHOOD TWO YEARS AGO AND THEN BUILT THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND THEN HAD THE INFRASTRUCTURE ACCEPTED. IT'S A PUBLIC ROAD. 
          PEOPLE ARE DRIVING IT. THERE'S A LEISURE PATH. THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE SOCCER. THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS BUILT WITH 30, I'M SORRY, 36. SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. THE SINGLE FAMILY LOTS AROUND IT RANGE IN SIZE FROM A LITTLE OVER AN ACRE TO AROUND A QUARTER OF AN ACRE IN SIZE. WHAT? WE HERE BEFORE YOU TONIGHT, TOM? JUST RECORDING. MY RECOLLECTION IS WHEN WE APPROVED THIS IS THERE WAS GOING TO BE SORT OF A MIX OF TYPES OF RESIDENCES HERE THAT WERE GOING TO SORT OF BE BIGGER HOMES, AND THEN THERE WERE GOING TO BE SOME PATIO TYPE HOMES THAT ORDERED THROUGH, AND IT WAS GOING TO LOOK BIGGER INTO SMALLER KIND OF IDEA. EXACTLY. 36 LOT 46 ACROSS THE ROAD. AND 
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OVER THE TOP WAS A LITTLE CLOSE AND A POND ON THE IN THE MIDDLE. WITHIN THIS. R45678. WHAT'S THE CURRENT CONFIGURATION? AND THE BASIC IDEA WAS THERE WOULD BE EXACTLY THREE DIFFERENT ROCK TYPES. TWO LARGE ESTATE, LOTS MORE TRADITIONAL COUNTRY CLUB, LOTS ALONG THE EASTERN PORTION OF THE SITE. THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE SITE. AND THEN THERE WERE SMALLER LOTS ALONG THE NORTHERN EDGE ADJACENT TO THE EXISTING HOME THAT FRONTS ONTO ONTO BRANDON. THE SUBDIVISION AND THE STREET TREES AND YOU KNOW, THE POND AND ALL OF THE IMPROVEMENTS. I'M SURE YOU GUYS REMEMBER THERE'S LOTS OF DISCUSSION. THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION WITH OUR FRIENDS DOWN AT THE SOUTH ABOUT TRAFFIC AND WHAT CAN YOU DO THERE? WE BUILT THE GATES RIGHT THERE. TWO BIG BRICK PIERS WITH GATES, AND THE WIDTH OF THE PAVEMENT IS ACTUALLY SLIGHTLY SMALLER. 
          SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'VE DONE THAT. YOU'RE GETTING READY TO, TO, TO BRING IT TO THE MARKET AND SOME OF OUR DESIGN TEAM AND CERTAINLY LEADERSHIP AT THE COMPANY SAID, YOU KNOW, IT JUST DOESN'T FEEL LIKE THE MIXTURE AND THE COMBINATION OF THE ESTATE BLOCKS BOUNDED BY SMALLER LOTS IS A RIGHT. THAT'S HOLDING AND BRIEFING. SO WHAT ROAD IS AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE? THERE? THAT INTERSECTION IS THE INTERSECTION OF LAMPTON PARK AND HEATHER. YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU. GOT IT. 
          AND TOM IN THAT SPOT, IN THAT SPOT THAT NEIL WAS ASKING ABOUT THERE ARE HOMES THAT ARE FACING BACK THAT WAY. RIGHT? THERE ARE SO HOMES THAT FACE THIS NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE SOUTH AND TO THE EAST. OKAY. TO THE NORTH. TO THE WEST. THERE ARE HOMES THAT BACK UP TO THIS ACROSS THE GOLF COURSE. OKAY. SO WHAT WE ARE WORKING WITH STAFF ON NOW AND WHAT WE WILL BE PROPOSING AND BRINGING TO THE COMMISSION THE PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND ZONING REZONING THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO GO FROM 36 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES TO A TOTAL OF FOUR SINGLE FAMILY. WHAT WE'VE DONE IS CAPTURED IN THE MIDDLE OF BACK HERE. THAT'S THE EXISTING PLAT. THANK YOU. IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SUBDIVISION. CAPTURED. THOSE ARE NOW JUST THE ESTATE BLOCKS. SO IT'S A TOTAL OF THREE RATHER THAN FOUR AND ONE, TWO, THREE ON THE OUTSIDE AS WELL. SO EACH OF THOSE LIVES, THERE WILL BE TWO, THREE OR LARGER, BUT THESE OTHERS WILL BE A MINIMUM OF AN ACRE IN SIZE. SO THAT'S CONSIDERED THE ESTATE DISTRICT OR THE MORE TRADITIONAL COUNTRY CLUB FLOORS WILL BE TO THE SOUTH, TO THE EAST AND TO THE NORTH. WE RECONFIGURED THE LOTS AROUND THE EXISTING BASIN SO THAT ALL OF THOSE ARE A MINIMUM OF 100FT IN WIDTH, AND WE HAVE DONE DOWN A LOT OF THE AREA WE CALL THE CLOSE. THAT'S NOW A TOTAL OF TEN LOTS THAT WILL BE MORE LIKE EDGE OF WOODS AND OR SESSIONS VILLAGE. IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THAT IN PARKSVILLE. SO THERE MAY BE SOME ATTACHMENT. SOME OF THOSE HOMES MAY BE ATTACHED. THERE WILL BE PRIMARILY DETACHED, BUT THERE MAY BE SOME GARDEN WALLS, GARAGES AS A DETACHED. THE APPLICATION THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE BEFORE YOU ACTUALLY DIVIDES IT INTO TWO SUB AREAS. SO THAT SESSIONS VILLAGE PIECE, WE ARE WORKING WITH A TEAM OF ARCHITECTS AND DESIGNERS TO FIGURE THAT PIECE OUT. THREE CAR GARAGES. HOW DOES THE CIRCULATION WORK WILL ACTUALLY BE MOVING THE ROAD THROUGH THERE, PULLING OUT THE PAVEMENT, PULLING THE DEVELOPMENT ZONE CLOSER IN SO THAT IT DOESN'T IMPACT GOLF. BUT THE DETAILS OF THAT WE HAVE AS A SEPARATE SUB AREA WILL HAVE TO COME BACK TO YOU WITH A FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THAT PIECE. THAT'S NOT RIPE YET. RIGHT. WE'RE READY TO PROCEED WITH THE WITH THE ZONING AND THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN REVIEW FOR EVERYTHING, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THAT SESSIONS VILLAGE PIECE. THERE'S ONE MORE DETAIL THAT I DIDN'T MENTION. 
          THAT IS. AGAIN, THE EMPTINESS OF THE EXISTING COMMUNITY. THEY WOULD ACTUALLY BE A SMALL 
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OCCUPIABLE STRUCTURE THERE AS WELL. BUT THERE'S A SMALLER SINGLE FAMILY HOME 1500 SQUARE FEET TO POSSIBLY POSSIBLY AS BIG OF 2000FT■!S, BUT NOT MUCH LARGR THAN THAT. THAT'S INCLUDED IN THE TOTAL 40 UNIT COUNT THAT I DESCRIBED BEFORE. THE DETAILS OF WHICH CAN BE MARRIED UP WITH. 
          THE NEIGHBORHOOD CALLING SESSIONS VILLAGE VOICE. SO LOTS OF MOVING PIECES AND PARTS THAT I'M WORKING WITH THE CITY ON. AND THE CITY ENGINEER AGAIN, THIS SUBDIVISION WAS BUILT AND EVEN ACCEPTED BY THE CITY. SO HOW WE START THIS PROCESS OF PEELING AWAY THE LAYERS OF THE ONION AND TEARING OUT AND REBUILDING. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO WORK THROUGH THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT AND THE CITY ENGINEER TO FIGURE OUT HOW ALL THE DETAILS OF THAT WOULD WORK. THE FIRST STEP IN THIS IS GOING THROUGH THE PUBLIC PROCESS OF THE ENTITLEMENT AND THE ENTITLEMENT REVIEW PROCESS, SO THAT EVERYONE IS AWARE OF WHAT WE'RE DOING AND COMFORTABLE WITH THE DIRECTION THIS IS HEADED. TOM, CAN YOU YOU GAVE US A NICE SORT OF DESCRIPTION OF WHAT THE ONE SECTION IS GOING TO BE LIKE. YES. THE SESSIONS AREA. YEAH. CAN YOU GIVE US GIVE US AN IDEA OF SORT OF AN EXISTING AREA OF NEW ALBANY THAT THE STATE LOTS ARE MAY RESEMBLE. JUST I WON'T HOLD YOU TO IT. AND THEN THE OTHERS WHAT THEY MAY RESEMBLE OXFORD. ARE WE TALKING EBRINGTON? WHAT ARE WE KIND OF TALKING ABOUT? THE ESTATE. LOTS. I THINK WILL BE MORE THE BEST EXAMPLE OF THE ESTATE. LOTS ARE HIGHGROVE FARMS. OKAY. DOCTOR HURST JENKINS, THEIR ACRE. PLUS LOTS WITH THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF STANDARDS. SO THAT'S THAT'S THE TARGET VISION FOR THAT. THE COUNTRY CLUB COMMUNITY LOTS. WE DO NOT HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD BUILT IN NEW ALBANY YET THAT WE ARE THAT THIS WILL EMULATE. OKAY. IT WILL BE GEORGIAN. I SUSPECT YOU MIGHT REMEMBER AGAIN, THE LAST TIME WE WENT THROUGH THIS, THERE WAS LOTS OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THE BACK OF THESE HOMES. RIGHT? WHAT WILL THE BACK OF THE HOMES LOOK LIKE? THEY'RE FRONTING ON THE GOLF COURSE. WE HAVE. WE HAVE WASHED AND RINSED AND REPEATED HALF A DOZEN TIMES OF WHAT THIS MAY LOOK LIKE. I COULD IMAGINE A STONE BEING INCORPORATED INTO THEM. WE AT OUR PREVIOUS APPLICATION HAD WHAT WE'VE DONE EVERYWHERE ELSE A THREE BOARD WHITE HORSE FENCE THAT SEPARATES THE GOLF COURSE FROM THE BACK OF THESE LOTS. WE'RE NOT DOING THAT HERE. WE ARE ONE OF THE FIRST STEPS THAT HOPEFULLY WE WILL SEE HAPPEN. YET THIS FALL IS AMERICAN ELMS OR THE STREET TREES THAT ARE OUT THERE. WE'RE GOING TO BE MOVING THOSE AMERICAN ELMS TO THE BACK OF THE LOTS AND CLUSTERING THEM AT THE ENTRANCES TO THE NORTH AND THE SOUTH. THERE WILL BE A SINGLE RAIL, DARK GREEN HORSE FENCE THAT SEPARATES THE GOLF COURSE FROM THE LOTS. SO THAT SO THAT THE VIEWS ARE UNINTERRUPTED. AND THAT'S MORE OF A SELLING POINT RATHER THAN BLOCKING THEM WITH A THREE RAIL HORSE FENCE. ALL OF THOSE WHITE. YEAH. PARDON THE B. AND WHAT IT DOES TO THE VIEW. YEAH. EXACTLY. THE HEIGHT AND THE COLOR SHIFT A RECESSIVE COLOR RATHER THAN A, YOU KNOW, A DOMINANT COLOR. SO THOSE DETAILS WILL BE INCLUDED IN THE PACKETS THAT WE MOVE FORWARD WITH YOU ON. THERE ARE ALSO SIGNIFICANT CHANGES HAPPENING TO THE STORMWATER BASIN. THE POND. SO THAT LITTLE OVERLOOK AREA IS BEING TORN OUT AND REDONE. IT'S A PRETTY HEAVY BRICK KIND OF BULLFROG IN THE LANDSCAPE RIGHT NOW, SO THAT WILL BE LIGHTER, MORE YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE THROUGH IT ON THE SOUTH WHERE THERE'S A THERE'S A BOARDWALK. TODAY WE'LL ACTUALLY HAVE A PIER THAT EXTENDS OUT INTO THE BASIN WITH A WITH A, PERHAPS A TRELLIS WITH A LITTLE. SEATING AREA. AND LITTLE GAZEBO. YEAH, ALMOST LIKE A GAZEBO. THERE WILL ALSO BE SIGNIFICANT WETLAND PLANTINGS THAT HAPPEN AROUND THE PERIMETER OF THE BASIN. THE SAME TEAM THAT'S DOING THE DESIGN OF THE WETLAND PLANTINGS AROUND THE BASIN NEXT TO THE MARKET STREET EXTENSION, IS THE DESIGN TEAM THAT DID THE WETLAND PLANTINGS AT MIRROR LAKE. FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE FAMILIAR WITH MIRROR LAKE ON CAMPUS IS THE SAME TEAM THAT WILL BE WORKING WITH ON THIS. SO ELEVATING THE OVERALL ESTHETIC OF THE COMMUNITY WITH SOME SIGNIFICANT CHANGES, SIGNIFICANT CHANGES IN THE YOU KNOW, TEARING OUT PAVEMENT, 
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MOVING A ROAD SLIGHTLY, INCREASING THE UNIT COUNT FROM 36 TO 40. AND PRICE POINTS GOING HIGHER FOR LOTS AS WELL AS ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS. THOSE SAME ISSUES THAT WE DISCUSSED THE LAST TIME ABOUT ROOF MATERIAL AND LANDSCAPE AND DESIGN ESTHETIC. IT WILL BE A GEORGIAN ARCHITECTURAL VOCABULARY, BUT I SUSPECT WITH SOME A LITTLE BIT MORE FLEXIBILITY. ARE WE GOING TO SEE A WHOLE NEW TEXT THAT WE'RE GOING TO SEE FOR THIS? OR THE TEXT WILL BE NEW, BUT THERE WON'T BE ANY SURPRISES IN THAT THAT ARE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT YOU'VE SEEN BEFORE, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE SUB AREA. THAT'S THE SESSIONS VILLAGE WHERE WHERE WE WILL ALLOW FOR ATTACHMENT AND HOW AND WHEN AND ALL THE DETAILS OF THAT. THE OTHER THING THAT WE'RE DOING THAT WAS NOT IN THE EQUATION THE LAST TIME IS THE EXISTING STORMWATER BASIN ON THE NORTHERN EDGE. THERE ARE, I'M SURE MANY OF YOU HAVE NOTICED, SOME SWANS OUT THERE RIGHT NOW THAT HAVE MADE IT, AND THERE ARE SOME BABIES AND IT'S PRETTY COOL. 
          THERE ARE CATTAILS IN THERE THAT WE WILL BE REMOVING. IT'S PRETTY DENSELY POPULATED WITH WATER LILIES, BUT WE'RE DOING A WHOLE REMEDIATION TO THAT, MUCKING IT OUT, GETTING RID OF THE CATTAILS, REPLANTING THE EDGES. THE OBJECTIVE IS TO MAKE THAT BASIN LOOK AND FEEL MORE LIKE THE BASIN THAT'S IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO SOME PRETTY EXTENSIVE MODIFICATIONS TO THAT WILL BE A PART OF THIS AS WELL. THE CONNECTION. I'M SORRY. ONE LAST THING. THE PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION FROM THIS NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE PUBLIC PARK AT THE INTERSECTION OF BRANDON AND LAMBTON PARK WILL STILL BE MAINTAINED. SO THE LEISURE PATH THAT CONNECTS FROM THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU MIGHT REMEMBER, BISECTS THE GOLF COURSE WILL WILL BE MAINTAINED IN THIS. ARE YOU GOING TO KEEP THE TIGHTER TREE SPACING THAT MAKES IT A POND SO GORGEOUS, AT LEAST ON THE BRANDON END. I'M SORRY, HAVE YOU? I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE LOOKED AT IT. THERE'S A GUY WHO'S PLANTED OAK TREES MYSELF. HAD A POND AND THE OTHER ONE THAT CONNECTS HAVE A TIGHTER TREE SPACING THAN 30FT, AND IT'S OLD ENOUGH THAT THEY'VE GROWN INTO EACH OTHER AND THEY CONNECT. YEAH. ARE YOU GOING TO CONTINUE THAT ACROSS? CARRY THAT DOWN. HEAD OF POND. NO, THOSE ARE PIN OAKS. I WANT TO SAY THOSE ARE 20FT ON CENTER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THESE WILL BE 30FT ON CENTER. THE SPECIES HAS NOT BEEN DETERMINED YET. OKAY. WE KNOW THAT WE WILL NOT THE WE WON'T REPLANT AMERICAN ELMS. I SUSPECT THEY'LL EITHER BE MAPLES OR OAK TREES. BUT WE'LL CONTINUE THAT 30 FOOT SPACING. WE WILL. ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE GOING TO PARKS AND TRAILS IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WANT TO DO IS TO REMOVE THE EXISTING TRAIL THAT EXTENDS THAT BISECTS THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, REPLACE IT WITH A BRICK SIDEWALK. SO THERE WILL BE BRICK SIDEWALKS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ROAD, AND NOT AN EIGHT FOOT WIDE ASPHALT PATH. WE NEED TO KIND OF GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF MAKING SURE PARKS AND TRAILS ARE OKAY WITH THAT, BUT THAT'S YET ANOTHER LAYER TO THIS THAT WE THINK WILL BE BENEFICIAL. 
          HAVE YOU EVER THOUGHT ABOUT BEECH IN THAT MIX? BEECH TREES BECAUSE THEY ALSO GET SIZABLE AND BEECH DO REALLY WELL NEXT TO THE BASINS. THERE'LL BE A COUPLE OF WILLOWS, NOT A LOT, BUT A COUPLE OF WILLOWS. THERE WILL BE BEECH, YOU KNOW, THE OUR BIGGEST ISSUE IS THE QUALITY OF THE TREES. SO WE'RE KIND OF GOING HIGH AND LOW LOOKING ALL OVER THE COUNTRY QUITE LITERALLY IN CANADA TO TAG THE RIGHT SIZE AND SPECIES OF TREES. THAT'S GOING TO BE CRITICAL. I HAPPEN TO REALLY LIKE THE AMERICAN ALBUMS, BUT I MY VOTE WAS VETOED, SO I TRIED. ALL RIGHT. YEAH I BEECH TREES WERE OFF THE MARKET FOR A WHILE AND THEN THEY CAME BACK ON THE MARKET. I HAD SOMEONE CALL ME TWO YEARS AFTER I ORDERED ONE. YEAH. THE GATEWAY TO THE NORTH. THOSE EXISTING. IF YOU HAVEN'T DRIVEN IT OR WALKED IT RECENTLY, I'D ENCOURAGE YOU TO DO SO. IT'S. I'M GOING TO SAY SLOPPY AND CONFUSING, AND I'M SAYING THAT LOOKING AT MYSELF, NOT ANYONE ELSE. THERE'S THE COORDINATION WITH THE GOLF CART CROSSING AND THE ENTRANCE JUST DOESN'T WORK. THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE SIGNAGE FOR THE GOLF CART CROSSING, AND THERE'S SIGNAGE FOR THE ENTRANCE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND IT JUST DOESN'T FEEL RIGHT. SO THAT WILL BE TORN OUT AND ADJUSTED AND MOVED. THE FAKE WOODEN GUARDRAIL WHERE IT WAS SUPPOSED TO FEEL LIKE A BRIDGE THAT'S ALSO COMING OUT. SO IT'S A WHOLE NEW MAKEOVER THAT WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT AND WILL BE A SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENT. I THOUGHT IT BEST TO COME BEFORE YOU GUYS INFORMALLY, SINCE THIS IS SUCH A 
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SIGNIFICANT DEPARTURE FROM WHERE WE WERE BEFORE, TO SEE IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS OR HOT BUTTON ISSUES YOU WANT ME TO BE PREPARED TO DISCUSS OR INITIAL REACTION RESISTANCE. NOT KIND OF. TAKE YOUR TEMPERATURE, TOM. WE'RE NOT GOING TO SEE ANY VARIANCES FOR YACHT PARKING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. NO, I HOPE NOT. HEY, TOM, WHAT'S YOUR PLAN WITH THE LOTS? WOULD BE RELEASE THEM ALL AT ONCE OR. I SUSPECT THE SESSIONS VILLAGE PIECE WILL BE RELEASED SEPARATELY THAN THE BALANCE OF THE SITE. THE SESSIONS VILLAGE PIECE, YOU KNO, AGAIN, WE'RE WE'RE TURNING THIS EVERY WHICH WAY BUT SIDEWAYS. DO WE SELL IT WITH A PLAN ALREADY DETERMINED LIKE WE DID EDGE OF WOODS. ALL THOSE YEARS AGO? OR DO WE BUILD OUT 2 OR 3 OF THOSE AND SELL A FINISHED PRODUCT? BECAUSE IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT FOLKS ARE FAMILIAR WITH, AND THAT'S A HARD VISION TO SELL. 
          EDGE OF WOODS AND SESSIONS VILLAGE WITHOUT IT BEING BRICKS AND MORTAR IN FRONT OF YOU. SO I SUSPECT IT WILL BE TWO WAVES OF RELEASE SESSIONS VILLAGE AND THE BALANCE OF THE SITE. PLEASE AVOID THE PROBLEM AT KESWICK WHERE THEY DIDN'T BUILD IT OUT, AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN DIFFERENT PEOPLE SAID DIFFERENT THINGS AND WE PRIVATE ROADS AND DIDN'T CONTINUE THE SAME PRODUCT. YEAH, YEAH. THE GOOD THING THAT THESE ARE ALL PUBLIC ROADS. THERE'S NO CONFUSION ABOUT CONNECTIVITY. I MEAN, IT IT IS WHAT IT IS. YEAH. DONE. RIGHT. THE FEATURE IN THE BASIN COULD BE AN INCREDIBLY POWERFUL THING. YEAH. GO LOOK UP, YOU KNOW, GOOGLE MOON VIEWING PAVILION IN ASIA. YOU CAN FIND SOME REALLY NICE STUFF THAT SIMPLE. LIKE ALMOST LIKE A DOCK WITH A WITH WITH A PAVILION AND GASLIGHT. SO, SO REALLY ROMANTIC. CAN WE AVOID THE GASLIGHT? CAN WE DO WHAT? AVOID THE GASLIGHT. PROBABLY NOT. BUT I WILL MAKE SURE THIS IS THE 2001. YEAH. I'M SORRY. THE. BECAUSE THEY'RE ON DAY AND NIGHT, TOSSING CARBON INTO THE ATMOSPHERE. AND WE ONLY NEED THE LIGHT DURING THE EVENINGS. YEAH, I HEAR YOU. THERE'S A REAL PROPENSITY FOR THE ROMANCE OF GASLIGHT AND DOING THEM IN THE APPROPRIATE LOCATION, THE APPROPRIATE NUMBER. NOT OVERDOING IT. BUT THERE'S SOMETHING REALLY VERY ROMANTIC ABOUT A WELL DESIGNED GASLIGHT. LIKE THE LIBRARY, RIGHT? SO IT'. YOU'RE NOT THE ONLY ONE SAYING THAT. OKAY, SO I HAVE BEEN SO TEMPTED TO. FOR THE ONES THAT ARE ON THE PUBLIC SIDEWALK TO BRING MARSHMALLOWS AND JUST ROAST MARSHMALLOWS OVER PEOPLE'S GAS LIGHTS, AND THEY DON'T GET MAINTAINED AS WELL EITHER. AND THEY'RE OUT THERE HARD TO MAINTAIN. YEAH, THEY'RE HARD TO MAINTAIN, THERE'S NO DOUBT. ALL RIGHT, TOM, GO AHEAD ON TIMING. YOU SORT OF TOUCHED ON THAT. YOU HOPE TO MAKE SOME OF THESE CHANGES AND IMPROVEMENTS OVER THE NEXT FEW MONTHS. WELL, THE ONLY THING I'M GOING TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH IF I'M ABLE TO, THE ONLY THING I'M PUSHING TO TRY TO ACCOMPLISH OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS IS ONE GET THROUGH THE ENTITLEMENT PROCESS, AND TWO, MOVE THE STREET TREES. IN ORDER TO MOVE THE STREET TREES AGAIN AS PART OF THE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE, THERE, I'LL HAVE TO BOND THEM. PLUS, WE'RE REGRADING THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. RIGHT. YOU DRIVE THROUGH IT NOW, AND IT LOOKS LIKE IT NEEDS TO BE ROCK COUNTY. 
          IT'S BEEN ROCK POUNDED A DOZEN TIMES. WE NEED TO FIX THAT. SO THE WHOLE THING IS GOING TO BE RECREATED. THEY'RE BOTH PUBLIC UTILITIES AND PRIVATE UTILITIES THAT NEED TO BE COORDINATED WITH BEFORE I CAN MOVE THOSE TREES. THAT'S MY GOAL. I HOPE I GET THERE, DONE WITH THE PUBLIC ENTITLEMENT PROCESS BEFORE THE BEGINNING OF 25. THEN I'LL HAVE TO COME BACK TO YOU GUYS WITH A FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR EITHER ONE OR BOTH PHASES, AND THEN DO SOME ADDITIONAL WORK THROUGH THE WINTER MONTHS OF GRADING AND STARTING TO MOVE UTILITIES AND PERHAPS THAT LITTLE SECTION OF ROAD THAT WILL NEED TO BE MODIFIED. OKAY, SO IS IT SAFE TO SAY MAYBE A YEAR ISH FOR RELEASE? CORRECT. I WOULD HOPE SO. I WOULD HOPE FALL OF 25. OKAY. THAT'S AN AGGRESSIVE SCHEDULE. KNOWING HOW WE OPERATE. BUT THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S MY TARGET. THANK YOU. SO A LOT OF THESE ARE GOING TO BE ARCHITECT BUILT RATHER THAN. YEAH. OKAY. YEAH. CAN WE HAVE LIKE, INSTRUCTIONS TO THE ARCHITECTS ABOUT GET THE PARKING RIGHT. GET THE PARKING RIGHT. 
          YEAH. YOU KNOW, WE JUST SAW VARIANCE GO AWAY. YEAH. TONIGHT? YEAH. I MEAN, LET'S MAKE SURE THAT THE. HOW MANY GARAGE DOORS FACE THE STREET AND ALL OF THOSE ISSUES TO GET NAILED DOWN, FACE THE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE OTHER THING. AGAIN THIS IS A LOT LIKE EDGE OF WOODS. YOU SEE IT ON ALL FOUR SIDES. SO IT'S HARD RIGHT. IN ALL OF THOSE THINGS NEED TO BE DETERMINED AHEAD OF TIME. 
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SWIMMING POOLS. RIGHT. THE FENCING OF THE POOLS, THE LOCATION OF THE POOLS, THE DETACHED GARAGES, ALL THAT STUFF NEEDS TO BE IRONED OUT AHEAD OF TIME. YEAH. YEAH. AND IT'S HELPFUL FOR ME FOR WHATEVER IT'S WORTH. YOU'VE DONE THIS IN THE PAST IN THESE WHEN YOU'VE ACCEPTED SUBDIVISIONS AND SAID, LOOK, WE ARE WE ARE NOT GOING TO BE RECEPTIVE TO VARIANCES FOR POOLS. AND I APPRECIATE IT WHEN YOU SAY THAT IN THE BEGINNING, BECAUSE THAT THEN IS THEN GIVEN TO THE REALTORS SO THAT THEY KNOW THAT AS WELL. SO AGAIN, COMMUNICATING LIKE THIS IS HELPFUL, I THINK, FOR BOTH OF US. YEAH, WE'VE GOT NO SURPRISES. YEAH. THE TWO UNITS THAT FACE EACH OTHER ON REYNOLDSBURG AND THEY HAVE THREE GARAGE BAYS THAT FACE REYNOLDSBURG NEW ALBUM WAS A MISTAKE. NO, BUT LET'S AVOID ANY MISTAKE WE'VE EVER MADE. THIS COULD BE REALLY NICE. OH, THERE'S THE CHARACTER OF THE SESSIONS. VILLAGE IS VERY DIFFERENT. IS THAT A PRODUCT YOU THINK IS BEING DEMANDED? AND HOW DO YOU THINK THE EXISTING RESIDENTS ARE GOING TO REACT TO THAT? TWO QUESTIONS HOW WILL THE EXISTING RESIDENTS REACT TO THA? WELL, WHEN I HAVE DUG DEEP IN IN TRANSACTIONS AND VALUE IN SESSIONS VILLAGE AND EDGE OF WOODS, WHICH I THINK ARE THE TWO NEIGHBORHOODS MOST SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE, AND THEY ARE TREMENDOUS. AND HAVE ESCALATED ARGUABLY HIGHER THAN A TRADITIONAL SINGLE FAMILY HOME. IT'S A DIFFERENT IT'S A DIFFERENT BUYER. IRONICALLY, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY AN EMPTY NESTER. I KNOW OF THREE FAMILIES IN SESSIONS VILLAGE WITH YOUNG KIDS, ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AGE KIDS. I KNOW OF ONLY ONE IN EDGE OF WOODS. BUT BUT IT IS APPEALING TO NOT AN EMPTY NESTER NECESSARILY SO. THE DESIGN OF THESE, WE KNOW THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE THREE CAR GARAGES. 
          HOW DO YOU DO THAT IN THIS TYPE OF CONDITION? YOU KNOW THAT THAT TAKES A REALLY TALENTED ARCHITECT AND DESIGNER. AND THAT'S WHO WE'RE WORKING WITH TO FIGURE THAT OUT. YOU'LL SEE THE DETAILS WHEN WE BRING IT FORWARD. BUT WE BELIEVE STRONGLY THAT THERE IS A MARKET FOR THAT AND A WIDER MARKET THAN YOU WOULD ORIGINALLY THINK. WHEN YOU DO A LITTLE BIT OF RESEARCH ABOUT TRANSACTIONS AND WHO'S BUYING AND AT WHAT TYPE OF PRICE POINTS. SO WE'RE PRETTY CONFIDENT ABOUT IT. DOES IT OPEN A PRICE POINT THAT WOULD ALLOW. EXPAND THE AMOUNT, THE TYPE OF PEOPLE THAT COULD MOVE INTO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT. YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE PRICES ARE GOING TO LAND OTHER THAN I KNOW THAT THEY WILL BE HIGH, RIGHT? I MEAN, THEY WERE HIGH WHEN I WAS HERE TWO YEARS AGO. AND LOOK AT WHAT THE MARKET LOOKS LIKE TODAY COMPARED TO TWO YEARS AGO. THIS IS NOT THE LAST SINGLE FAMILY HOME NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE COUNTRY CLUB COMMUNITIES, BUT CERTAINLY ONE OF THE LAST AND CERTAINLY NEXT TO THE AREA BETWEEN EDGE OF WOODS AND THE COUNTRY CLUB. THIS IS THE MOST VISIBLE. SO GREAT CARE AND ATTENTION ARE BEING GIVEN TO IT. I THINK WE'VE LEARNED LESSONS FROM CALDECOTT LEYS AND EBRINGTON THAT TRANSLATE HERE OF WHAT TO DO AND WHAT NOT TO DO, AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE GOING INTO THIS EQUATION. THIS NEIGHBORHOOD WILL NOT BE FOR THE FAINT OF HEART, RIGHT? THIS WILL BE VERY EXPENSIVE AND IT WILL HAVE THE HIGHEST OF ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS. AND I SUSPECT IT WILL TAKE A DECADE TO ABSORB. IT WON'T. IT WON'T BE ABSORBED LIKE EBRINGTON OR OXFORD OR ANY OF THE OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE COMMUNITY. I SUSPECT THE ABSORPTION OF THIS WILL BE MORE LIKE THE FARMS. THAT TOOK 20 YEARS. YEAH, I LIKE THE VARIETY. I LIKE IT VERSUS, YOU KNOW, THE SAME EVERYWHERE. SO I THINK IT'S I THINK IT'S GOOD. I THINK IT'S EXCITING, BUT IT'S DIFFERENT AND IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE SOME DEDICATION AND SOME AND YOU KNO, A COMMITMENT ON OUR PART AS WELL AS EVERYONE ELSE TO, TO BRING THIS KIND OF VISION TO FRUITION. THAT MIGHT BE THE MOST SOUGHT AFTER 1500 SQUARE FOOT HOUSE IN THE COUNTY. YOU'RE NOT KIDDING. I WANT TO BUY IT. YEAH, RIGHT. 
          WHO DOESN'T WANT TO LIVE THERE? YEAH, I WAS GOING TO ASK. WHAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THAT? AND DOES THAT SEEM OUT OF CHARACTER? SO I IT MAY BE, IT MAY BE WHERE THE REALTORS ARE LOCATED FOR THE FIRST FIVE YEARS. RIGHT. AND THEN AT THE END OF THAT, SOLD AS A SINGLE FAMILY HOME. THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE FOR, I DON'T KNOW, AN EMPTY NESTER OR A BACHELOR OR A SINGLE, YOU KNOW, PERSON 
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LIVING THERE. IT WILL BE DIFFERENT THAN THE OTHERS, MORE LIKE THE SESSIONS VILLAGE PIECE THAN THE BALANCE OF THE SITE, BUT IT CREATES A SENSE OF PLACE AND A SENSE OF ARRIVAL IS THE THOUGHT BEHIND IT. IT'S A REALLY GREAT A LOT, RIGHT? YOU'VE SEPARATED A LOT FOR THE RIGHT PERSON. AGAIN, THE RIGHT PERSON FOR A VERY SPECIFIC SOMEBODY THAT'S NOT AFRAID OF GOLF BALLS BECAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT THERE. YOU'RE RIGHT ON TOP OF THE COURSE THERE. SO EXCITING. BUT YOU KNOW, VERY SPECIFIC KIND OF PERSON. OKAY. OTHERS. WELL, YOU'VE DONE IT AGAIN. I ONCE ASKED YOU, CAN WE HAVE WIDER RANGE OF PRICE POINTS? AND THEN YOU BROUGHT IN LAMBTON PARK AND IT WAS I WAS SAYING 2 TO 1 AND IT WAS LIKE, YEAH, WE CAN WE'LL JUST GO UP. I APPRECIATE THE PREVIEW TO THIS. YES. ANYTHING ELSE? SO THAT TAKES US TO ATTENDANCE OF MEMBERS. RULES UPDATE THE CODIFIED ORDINANCES. SO THIS IS JUST A QUICK UPDATE FOR THE BOARD MEMBERS. AND SO THE ACTUAL LEGISLATION IS IN THE VERY BACK OF YOUR PACKETS. SO IN SEPTEMBER CITY COUNCIL UPDATED THE RULES OF PROCEDURE FOR THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. SO ANYTHING YOU SEE IN RED OR CROSSED OUT OR I SHOULD SAY UNDERLINED IN THE LEGISLATION ITSELF, IS WHAT'S BEEN CHANGED. 
          SO THE WAY THE, THE, THE RULES USED TO READ IS THAT IF A BOARD MEMBER AND THIS IS TRUE FOR ALL BOARDS IN NEW ALBANY, IF THEY HAD THREE CONSECUTIVE ABSENCES OR FOUR ABSENCES IN ANY 12 MONTH PERIOD, THEN THAT IS USED TO SAY IT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED GROUNDS FOR FORFEITURE. SO THERE REALLY WAS NO DISCRETION IN IT THE WAY IT WAS WRITTEN, IT'S IF YOU MEET THOSE CRITERIA, THEN YOU'RE OUT. 
          WHAT CITY COUNCIL HAS UPDATED IS THE WORDS IN RED HERE. SO IT SAYS CONSIDERED A GROUNDS FOR FORFEITURE. AND SO THIS IS A LOT OF RED. BUT ESSENTIALLY IT SAYS THAT CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS CAN EXCUSE BOARD AND COMMISSION MEMBERS DUE TO AN ILLNESS, INJURY OR OTHER EMERGENCY CIRCUMSTANCES OF THAT MEMBER. SO THAT'S REALLY IT. SO CITY COUNCIL IN THE IN THE SHORT OF IT IS THAT THEY CAN EXCUSE MEMBERS IF THEY HAVE AN EXCUSABLE OFFENSE FOR MISSING BOARD AND COMMISSION MEETINGS. THAT'S THE ONLY UPDATE WE HAVE. WE JUST WANT TO MAKE WE'RE GOING THROUGH ALL OF OUR BOARD AND COMMISSIONS. JUST TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY'S AWARE OF THAT CHANG. 
          THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? I WILL SAY THIS, THIS BOARD KIND OF DRAWS THE SHORT STRAW AS FAR AS ATTENDANCE. IT'S TWO MEETINGS A MONTH. NOT ONE MEETING A MONTH. AND THIS BOARD HAS EXCELLENT ATTENDANCE. AND I DON'T ANTICIPATE HAVING THIS DISCUSSION WITH ANY OF YOU. AND 
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THANK YOU FOR THAT. YOU'RE WELCOME. MEMBERS FOR COMMENT. BRUCE, THE U.S. 62 EXCHANGE IS PROGRESSING ALONG. WE'VE HAD THREE MEETINGS. THE LAST ONE, WE DID A WORKING SESSION WHERE WE BASICALLY LAID OUT ON LARGE MAPS AND GAVE SUGGESTIONS ABOUT HOW IT COULD LOOK AND SO FORTH. SO THAT'S IN THE MIX PHASE. HANDS TO COME BACK WITH A PROPOSAL. SO THAT WILL BE ONE MORE MEETING. 
          IT'S ON NOVEMBER 19TH AND THEN THERE'LL BE A PUBLIC OPEN HOUSE ON DECEMBER 4TH, SECOND, SECOND ON THAT AS WELL. SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT WITH THAT PROCESS. THANK YOU DAVE. NO REPORT. THANK YOU. NO COMMENTS FROM BRUCE. NO CO
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