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YOU TAKE THE ROLL, PLEASE? MR. STERBIK HERE. MISS STILLMAN, PRESENT, PLEASE. HERE, MISS BOTT. HERE, MR. HEYRMAN. MISS SCHOPPER. STOUGHTON. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER. FELLOWS. HERE.
[III. Action on minutes: August 5, 2024]
THERE ARE FIVE VOTING MEMBERS PRESENT. WE HAVE A QUORUM. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANY ADDITIONS TO THE MINUTES THAT WE ALL HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT? THOSE FROM THE AUGUST 5TH MEETING? I HAVE A COUPLE JUST MINOR CORRECTIONS. OKAY. SPELLING STUFF ON PAGE TWO. THE WORD ARBORVITAE IS ONE WORD. IT'S IN THE FIFTH PARAGRAPH FROM THE BOTTOM. IT JUST HAS A SPACE IN IT THAT NEEDS TO BE CLOSED. AND THEN ON PAGE THREE AND THE SECOND PARAGRAPH, I THINK THE END OF THAT SENTENCE AND ASK WHAT DETERMINES WHAT IT SAVED IS, IS SAVED. IT'S JUST A TYPO.AND I HAVE A QUESTION ON CLARIFICATION ABOUT THE WIDTH OF THE SIDEWALKS. A COUPLE PARAGRAPHS DOWN THERE ON PAGE THREE, SAYING THAT THEY'RE GOING TO REQUEST A WAIVER BECAUSE FIVE FEET DOESN'T FEEL APPROPRIATE ANYMORE. I JUST WONDER WHAT THE CLARIFICATION OF IS. IT DOESN'T FEEL APPROPRIATE. I DON'T REMEMBER. I WAS HERE, BUT I DON'T REMEMBER THE DISCUSSION ON THAT. COULD THAT BE CLARIFIED IN THE MINUTES? SURE. WE COULD COME UP WITH SOMETHING TO DO THAT.
YEAH. DO YOU WANT ME TO EXPLAIN IT TO YOU OR YOU JUST WANT TO? SURE. OKAY. SO IT WAS WITHOUT PULLING IT UP REALLY QUICK. IT WAS A SIDEWALK IN CERTAIN PARTS OF THE DEVELOPMENT WHERE THERE ARE GOING TO BE LIKE, LARGER HOMES OR MORE TRADITIONAL, LIKE COUNTRY CLUB ESQUE TYPE DEVELOPMENT. SO IN, IN SECTIONS OF THE COUNTRY CLUB AND ANOTHER SECTION OF THE COMMUNITY OVERALL WHERE THERE'S LESS ROOM IN THE FRONT YARD TO PUT SIDEWALK AND TREE LAWN, WE'VE ALLOWED THOSE THINGS TO BE NARROWER. BUT THAT DOES REQUIRE A VARIANCE. SO THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE FIVE FEET WIDE. THEY WANTED TO GO FOUR FEET WIDE TO MATCH THE COUNTRY CLUB AND OTHER SUBDIVISIONS IN THE SURROUNDING AREA. YEAH. IF THAT COULD JUST BE CLARIFIED IN THE MINUTES, I THINK IT'S JUST AS ANY PERSON READING THE MINUTES, I GO. WHAT DO YOU MEAN? IT DOESN'T FEEL RIGHT? YEAH. YOU KNOW, CHRISTINE AND I CAN WORK ON THAT TOGETHER. YEAH. THAT'S ALL. IS THERE ANY MORE ADDITIONS OR. OKAY. CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE? I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM THE AUGUST 5TH MEETING. SECOND. I HAVE A SECOND, PLEASE. SECOND. OKAY. MISS STEELMAN? YES, MISS. YES, MISS. YES. MISS STOUGHTON. YES. MR. STUBECK. YES. THE MOTION PASSES THERE ARE FIVE VOTES IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE MINUTES AS CORRECTED. ALL RIGHT. I ASSUME THERE ARE NO OTHER ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS TO THE AGENDA FOR THIS EVENING. DO WE HAVE HEARING FROM THE VISITORS? DO YOU SOLEMNLY SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH? GREAT. GOD. THAT'S GREAT. WE HAVE TO DO THAT. ALL
[VI. Cases]
RIGHT. WE HAVE ONE CASE. IT'S A REVIEW. I UNDERSTAND CHRISTIAN IS GOING TO GET US STARTED ON THAT. AND IT'S. IT'S UP ON THE BOARD HERE. YOU CAN SEE IT'S SECTION 30. IT'S AN I UNDERSTAND IT'S BEEN AROUND A LONG TIME. THE PROPERTY HAS BEEN THERE, BUT THERE'S BEEN NO HOUSE ON IT. AND CHRISTIAN IS GOING TO GET US UP TO DATE ON THAT. AND WE WON'T APPROVE ANYTHING TONIGHT. THERE IS NOTHING BEFORE US TO APPROVE. THIS IS JUST A KIND OF LET YOU KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING, AND WE'LL DO THIS DOWN THE ROAD. YEAH. SO THIS IS AN INFORMAL REVIEW, SO I'LL LET TOM EXPLAIN IT. HE'S GOT A COUPLE OF EXHIBITS TO LOOK AT. SO YEAH, NO VOTE OR ANYTHING TONIGHT. JUST AN INFORMAL REVIEW. AND IT'LL COME BACK BEFORE YOU PROBABLY IN A COUPLE OF MONTHS. VERY GOOD.THANK YOU. I'M TOM RUBY WITH NEW ALBANY COMPANY. I ACTUALLY ASKED STAFF TO COME BEFORE YOU GUYS EARLIER IN THE PROCESS, SO I'M A LITTLE BIT OUT OF ORDER. WE'VE GONE TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR AN INFORMAL REVIEW AND THOUGHT I WANTED TO COME TO THIS BOARD SOONER RATHER THAN LATER AS WELL, JUST TO KIND OF BRING YOU UP SPEED. ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND MAKE SURE THAT WE INCORPORATE ANY CONCERNS YOU MAY YOU MAY HAVE WITH THE PROJECT. AS GEORGE MENTIONED, THIS IS SECTION 30 OF THE COUNTRY CLUB COMMUNITIES. IT'S THE EAST NINE. THE AREA WAS ZONED AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE BUILT AND ACCEPTED BY THE CITY SEVERAL YEARS AGO. IN FACT, TODAY. SO TO
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ORIENT YOU NORTH IS TO THE TOP. THIS IS LAMBDIN PARK ROAD. THIS IS HEAD OF POND ROAD AND THE ROAD IS BUILT AND EXTENDS THROUGH LIKE THIS. AND CONNECTS UP TO BORMAN GRANT. WE HAVE COME BACK TO THE CITY. THE ZONING THAT'S IN PLACE TODAY IS FOR A TOTAL OF 36 LOTS. WE'VE COME BACK TO THE CITY TO DO A REZONING, MODIFYING THE LOT LAYOUT. SOME OF THE PONDS, SOME OF THE DETAILS. WE'RE ACTUALLY REQUESTING A TOTAL OF 40 LOTS RATHER THAN 36. THERE WILL BE A THERE'S A DENSE, MORE DENSE. THERE ARE TEN HOMES DOWN HERE IN THE CORNER THAT WILL BE MORE LIKE SESSIONS VILLAGE IN BEXLEY OR EDGE OF WOODS. THEY MAY BE ATTACHED. THERE'S ALSO A VERY SMALL GATE HOUSE DOWN HERE AT THE INTERSECTION OF HEAD OF POND AND LAMBDIN PARK ROAD. THE REASON I'M BEFORE YOU GUYS TONIGHT, WHEN WE DID THIS ORIGINALLY, THERE WAS A REQUEST FOR THE LEISURE TRAIL THAT STOPPED UP HERE AT BRANDON AND BORMAN GRANT TO EXTEND THROUGH THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. IT WAS BUILT AS A PART OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THE PROJECT. THERE WAS ALSO A LEISURE TRAIL THAT EXTENDED FROM THIS CUL DE SAC BULB THROUGH THE GOLF COURSE, CONNECTING TO THIS LITTLE PARK AT THE INTERSECTION OF LAMPTON AND BRANDON. THAT LEISURE TRAIL CONNECTION WILL REMAIN SO THAT THERE'S NO CHANGE TO THAT CONNECTION FOR PEDESTRIANS TO GET OVER TO THAT PARK. THE ONE THING THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE IS, CAN YOU MOVE FORWARD THROUGH THE SLIDES IS THE MAYBE THE NEXT ONE DOWN IS REPLACING THE EIGHT FOOT WIDE ASPHALT PATH THAT CURRENTLY EXTENDS ALONG. IT'S THE RED LINE ON ON THIS MAP, REPLACING THAT WITH A BRICK SIDEWALK. SO IF YOU GO DOWN TO THE NEXT SLIDE THAT SIDEWALK, THERE WILL STILL BE THE TREE LINE, THE SIDEWALK, AND THERE'S ACTUALLY A SMALL LITTLE VERY DETAILED WALL AND FENCE CONDITION THAT EXISTS BETWEEN THOSE LARGER LOTS AND THE PUBLIC ROAD. SO IT'S A MODIFICATION FROM AN EIGHT FOOT WIDE ASPHALT PATH TO A BRICK SIDEWALK. THERE WILL BE BRICK SIDEWALKS THROUGHOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN FRONT OF ALL OF THE HOMES, MAKING THAT PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION THROUGH HERE. BUT IT IS A REQUESTED MODIFICATION FROM AN EIGHT FOOT WIDE ASPHALT PATH TO THE TO THE BRICK SIDEWALK. SO THAT'S THE LAST SLIDE. YEAH. SO YOU CAN SEE DOWN IN THE CORNER THAT LITTLE THE RED HIGHLIGHTED AREA ILLUSTRATES WHERE THAT CONDITION WOULD WOULD EXIST. SO THAT'S THE CHANGE THAT ULTIMATELY WILL COME BACK BEFORE YOU. AFTER I GO THROUGH A FEW ROUNDS AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION. WITH SOME OF THE LOBBYING AND THE ZONING AND THE POND, IF YOU COULD ACTUALLY GO UP ONE MORE SLIDE, MAYBE SOME OF THE OTHER CHANGES. ONE MORE PLEASE. THERE WE GO. SOME OF THE OTHER CHANGES THAT WE'RE MAKING UP IN THE NORTHERN AREA. IF YOU DRIVE THROUGH THERE RIGHT NOW, IT'S CONFUSING AND A LITTLE SLOPPY. WHERE THE ENTRANCE GATE IS AS IT RELATES TO THE GOLF CART CROSSING. SO WE'RE PULLING THOSE FURTHER APART TO KIND OF CLARIFY THAT THE ACTUAL GATEWAY ENTRANCE WILL BE FURTHER TO THE SOUTH DOWN HERE. THE GOLF CART CROSSING WILL REMAIN IN ITS EXISTING LOCATION. WE'RE MAKING SOME CHANGES TO THE OVERLOOK, TO THE BOARDWALK. THERE'S A NEW, AS I MENTIONED, A GATE HOUSE THAT WILL BE BUILT AT THAT MAIN ENTRANCE. AND THEN THE LIGHTING SCHEME DOWN AT THE CORNER OF THAT AREA THAT I REFERRED TO AS SESSIONS VILLAGE OR EDGE OF WOODS. THAT'S ALSO BEING MODIFIED. AND THAT'S KIND OF AN OVERVIEW OF THE CHANGES THAT WE'RE MAKING. SO HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, ANY CONCERNS YOU MIGHT HAVE AND LET YOU KNOW THAT I'LL BE BACK. WHAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THE GATE HOUSE? I SUSPECT THAT WILL BE THE LOCATION FOR REALITY TO OCCUPY WHILE WE'RE SELLING THE LOTS. ULTIMATELY, IT WILL BE SOLD AS A SINGLE FAMILY HOME, BUT WE'LL BUILT THAT. WE WILL BUILD THAT EARLIER ON IN THE PROCESS. SMALLER FOOTPRINT, MAYBE 2000FT■!S, 1500 SQUARE FE. NOT NOT A HUGE HOUSE. IT'S VERY SMALL GATE HOUSE LOOKING AND FEELING STRUCTURE. SO MORE OF AN OPEN LIKE THAT OPEN HOUSE SORT OF MODEL HOME KIND OF. WELL, IT WILL BE A MODEL HOME IN THAT THE, THE CONSTRUCTION MATERIALS[00:10:01]
AND THE DESIGN WILL BE CONSISTENT WITH THE EXPECTATION FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO YES, IN MANY REGARDS IT WILL BE A MODEL HOME BECAUSE IT WILL HAVE THE FANCY SLATE AND COPPER DOWNS.YOU KNOW, ALL OF THOSE BELLS AND WHISTLES THAT WILL BE REQUIRED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. BUT NOT FUNCTION AS A WE WON'T SELL THAT UNTIL WE HAVE SOLD ALL THE LOTS. OKAY. SO IT'LL BE THE LAST.
YEAH. IS THE INTENTION HERE IS TO BE A GATED COMMUNITY. WELL, THERE ARE GATES, BUT THEY'RE OPEN. SO IT'S ALL PUBLIC ROADS. THERE WON'T BE BLUFF GATES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT DOWN HERE.
WHERE THERE'S THE NEW SECTION OF THE BOX OVER HERE. YES, AT THE BOTTOM, OVER HERE TO THE RIGHT.
YES. TELL ME ABOUT EGRESS THERE. SO IT'S A IT'S A CUL DE SAC, RIGHT? I MEAN, WHAT EXISTS THERE TODAY WILL REMAIN. I SHOULD BE CAREFUL. IT'S A SMALL LITTLE CUL DE SAC. YEAH. I SUSPECT THE ASPHALT WILL BE PULLED UP AND WE'LL HAVE GRANITE COBBLES OR. OR BRICK PAVERS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I PREDICT THE CURB WILL BE REPLACED WITH GRANITE CURB. AND IT'S ACTUALLY A PARK IN THE MIDDLE. SO THAT GREEN THAT'S IN THREE SQUARES, THAT WILL ACTUALLY BE IT. THE INTENTION IS FOR IT TO FUNCTION AND FEEL LIKE A LITTLE PRIVATIZED PARK, BUT IT'S PAVEMENT AROUND THAT YOU CAN DRIVE. SO IT WILL MEET ALL THE TURNING RADIUSES AND THE LIKE.
NEED FOR FIRE AND POLICE. I, I ASSUME THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE LIKE A ONE WAY IN AND OUT. YEAH, MAYBE ONE WAY ROAD. I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT PASSING A FIRE TRUCK IN THERE. YEAH, WE'LL HAVE TO RUN THE IF YOU DRIVE IT TODA. TODAY, IT'S ONE WAY. IT'S ASPHALT. IT WILL BE DIFFERENT IN TEXTURE AND FEEL, BUT THE GEOMETRIES WILL ALL HAVE TO MEET. SO THERE WILL BE NO VARIANCES TO TURNING RADIUSES AND PAVEMENT WIDTHS TO MEET THOSE, THOSE KINDS OF REQUIREMENTS. GREAT. HOW BIG IS THE GREEN SPACE THERE? I APOLOGIZE, I'VE NOT SEEN THAT.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING. I SHOULD GO BACK AND WATCH IT. SO IT IS IT IS IT? DRIVE. WHEN YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO DRIVE IT, YOU'LL GET A SENSE OF IT. I'M GOING TO SAY, AND THIS IS SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT EXISTS TODAY. I'M GOING TO SAY IT IS ROUGHLY 150FT LONG BY 60FT WIDE. OKAY. IT WILL BE TERRACED, RIGHT? I MEAN, SO IT'S MAKING UP GRADE THROUGH THERE WHEN YOU GET TO THE TOP OF THAT, IT'LL BE FLAT, BUT THERE WILL PROBABLY IT'LL PROBABLY BE SITTING UP ON A PLINTH. SO A BAND OF SOMETHING GRANITE OR IS IT OPEN SPACE? IT IS OPEN SPACE. YEAH. IT'S NOT A PRIVATE PARK, BUT IT WILL. IT WILL FEEL MORE LIKE A PRIVATE PARK AGAIN, MUCH LIKE EDGE OF WOODS. THERE ARE TWO LITTLE PARKS IN EDGE OF WOODS THAT FEEL LIKE PRIVATE PARKS, BUT IN FACT ARE PUBLIC PARKS. THIS WILL FEEL SIMILAR TO THAT. SO QUESTION ABOUT THE TRAIL. YOU SAID YOU WENT FROM A EIGHT FOOT ASPHALT RESEARCH ROAD TO BRICK. WILL THAT ALSO BE EIGHT FEET? IT WILL NOT BE EIGHT FEET IN WIDTH. IT WILL MEET THE CODE REQUIREMENTS. WE JUST TALKED ABOUT FOUR FEET.
FIVE FEET I IT'S MORE OF A WALK. IT'S MORE OF A SIDEWALK. IT'S A SIDEWALK. IT WILL BE A SIDEWALK.
BUT A CONCRETE ONE ON BOTH ON BOTH SIDES OF ALL STREETS. AGAI, IT WILL. IT'S NOT ON THE GOLF COURSE SIDE OF THE OF THE OF THIS CUL DE SAC, BUT IT IS ON THE LOT SIDE OF THAT. SO HOW DOES THAT ON THAT SIDE IS ACTUALLY THAT IS THE ASPHALT LEISURE PATH. SO THE ASPHALT LEISURE PATH THAT EXISTS THERE TODAY EXTENDS ALONG HERE. CUTS THROUGH THE GOLF COURSE AND GOES UP TO THAT PARK THAT WILL REMAIN AS IS AND THAT WILL CONNECT TO THE BRICK WALKWAY THAT WILL CONNECT TO THE BRICK WALKWAY DOWN HERE AT THAT INTERSECTION RIGHT HERE. SO IT WON'T JUST ABRUPTLY STOP. CORRECT? CORRECT. YEAH. THERE'LL BE JUST LIKE UP TO THE NORTH, RIGHT? THE EIGHT FOOT TALL, EIGHT FOOT ASPHALT PATH UP AT BRANDON WILL CONTINUE AND THEN TURN INTO THE BRICK SIDEWALK AT THAT ENTRANCE GATE WHERE YOU ENTER THE SUBDIVISION. IT FEELS RIGHT. IS THIS. YEAH.
IT'S NOT AS WIDE WALKING. IS IT AFFECTING BIKE TRAFFIC? YEAH. IT'S A VERY DIFFERENT LOOK AND FEEL. WILL IT AFFECT BIKE TRAFFIC? YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN DRIVING AND WALKING THROUGH THIS NEIGHBORHOOD SINCE IT'S BEEN OPEN FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS. I RARELY SEE BIKES ON THE ASPHALT PATH. I TYPICALLY SEE THE BIKES ON THE ROAD. WILL THIS CHANGE THAT? I DON'T THINK PEOPLE ARE
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GOING TO RIDE A BIKE ON A ON A BRICK SIDEWALK. I SUSPECT THE BIKES WILL BE EITHER ON THE LASER PATH OR IN THE ROAD. THERE IS EIGHT FOOT WIDE ASPHALT PATH ON BOTH SIDES OF THIS THAT CONNECT INTO IT, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF I'M ANSWERING YOUR QUESTION OR NOT. I SUSPECT IT WILL HAVE SOME IMPACT. BUT OUR GOAL, OUR OBJECTIVE WAS TO UPGRADE THE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE OF THE STREET, RIGHT? FOR WHERE PEOPLE WALK AND WHAT THAT WHAT THAT WHOLE PROCESSION FEELS LIKE. YOU SAW THE LITTLE WALL IN THE BACK. IT'S NOT SOMETHING NEW. WE'VE DONE THIS ELSEWHERE. SO WE'RE NOT REINVENTING SOMETHING. BUT WE ARE. WE ARE TRYING TO UPGRADE THE QUALITY AND CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD WITH ELIMINATING THE ASPHALT AND REPLACING IT WITH BRICK WAS THE IS KIND OF WHERE WE'RE HEADED. THE STREETS ARE GOING TO BE BRICK ALSO, BUT THE ONLY STREET THAT I SUSPECT WILL BE BRICK IS DOWN HERE. THE REST WILL REMAIN ASPHALT AS IN THEIR CURRENT CONDITION. THE POND IN THE CENTER IS THAT ONLY ACCESSIBLE TO THESE LARGER STATES AROUND HERE, OR IS THERE A WALKWAY AROUND THE POND? THERE IS. SO THE POND THAT EXISTS TODAY WILL BE MOVED. IT WILL MOVE TO THE WEST THAT DIRECTION PROBABLY 40FT. SO THE POND IS GOING TO BE MOVED. IT REMAINS ACCESSIBLE. THERE'S ACTUALLY A BOARDWALK ALONG THE SOUTHERN SIDE WHERE THE PATH IT WILL ULTIMATELY BE. BRICK SIDEWALK TURNS INTO BOARDWALK, MUCH LIKE WHAT YOU HAVE AT GREENSWARD AND YANTIS. OKAY, SO THAT BOARDWALK WILL REMAIN, WE'RE ADDING LIKE A LITTLE PIER THAT EXTENDS OUT FROM THAT BOARDWALK INTO THE POND WITH A TRELLIS AND A LITTLE GASLIGHT AND A BENCH AND KIND OF ZHUZHING IT UP. THE SIDEWALK WILL CONTINUE AROUND THE PERIMETER OF THE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THEN THERE'S AN OVERLOOK. IF YOU GO OUT THERE RIGHT NOW, TODAY, THERE'S A KIND OF AN ELLIPTICAL SHAPED OVERLOOK WITH SOME BLACK METAL WROUGHT IRON FENCING THAT'S ALSO BEING UPGRADED AND MADE TO BE MORE OPEN. BUT ALL OF THAT IS ACCESSIBLE BY THE PUBLIC. SO CAN YOU. CAN THE PUBLIC GO AROUND THE POND OR ARE YOU ESSENTIALLY THEY CAN'T GO THROUGH THE LOTS? CORRECT. THEY CAN'T GO THROUGH THE LOTS AROUND THEM. SO ONLY THE ENDS ARE ACCESSIBLE. ONLY THE ENDS. MUCH LIKE THE POND OVER IN ELY CROSSING, WHERE IF YOU CAN PICTURE THAT THERE'S LIKE AN OVERLOOK AT ONE SIDE. YEAH. IT'S BRICK. THE DESIGN COMPLETELY DIFFERENT, BUT YOU WOULDN'T EVER WALK ONTO PEOPLE'S INDIVIDUAL LOTS AROUND THE ADJACENT POND. AND THAT THIS WILL HAVE THE SAME KIND OF FEEL. THERE WILL BE WETLAND PLANTINGS AROUND THE PERIMETER OF THE POND, AND IT'S A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT TREE PLANTINGS AS WELL. WHERE'S THE NEAREST PLAYGROUND TO THIS PART OF THE COMMUNITY? IS IT WALKABLE? THE NEAREST PLAYGROUND? THERE'S ONE. I'M GOING TO SAY DOWN HERE IN PEMBROKE. AND THERE'S ALSO ONE DOWN AT HEAD OF POND. YEAH. OKA. IS THAT RIGHT? GREG, IS THAT GREG? YEAH, I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT. OKAY. THOSE ARE THE TWO CLOSEST I CAN I CAN THINK OF. OKAY. WITH THE EXCEPTION, OBVIOUSLY, OF LAMBTON, WHICH IS SOMEWHERE OVER NEAR WHERE IT SAYS ENLARGEMENT. I MADE A COMMENT THERE, AND I DON'T KNOW IF I MISUNDERSTOOD, BUT THE POND IS GOING TO BE MODIFIED. THE POND IS GOING TO BE. WE'RE GOING TO DRAIN IT. REGRADE, MOVE IT ABOUT 50, 40, 50FT TO THE WEST SO THAT IT LOOKS LIKE THIS. OR IS THIS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE TODA? IF YOU GO OUT THERE TODAY? I NEED TO DRIVE THROUGH THERE AGAIN. IF YOU GO OUT THERE TODA, IT HAS NOT BEEN DONE YET. THE WORK HAS NOT BEEN DONE YET. IT WILL BE MOVED ABOUT 40 TO 50FT. SO WE HAVE PRIVATE UTILITIES THAT NEED TO BE MOVED, PUBLIC UTILITIES THAT NEED TO BE MOVED, THE BOARDWALKS WILL BE MODIFIED TO ACCOMMODATE THIS CHANGE. THE OVERLOOK WILL BE MODIFIED TO ACCOMMODATE THE CHANGE. THE PURPOSE OF IT, THE ORIGINAL DESIGN HAD EITHER 5 OR 6 LOTS BETWEEN THE POND AND THE ROAD.WE NOW HAVE THREE LARGER LOTS, AND IN ORDER TO GET SUFFICIENT DEPTH FOR THOSE LARGER LOTS, WE HAD TO MOVE THE POND. SO THAT'S THAT'S THE WHY I HAVE A QUESTION IN THE AREA. THAT'S THE SESSIONS LIKE AREA. HOW MANY RESIDENCES WILL BE THERE? I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S ACCURATE. AND SO THAT WAS THE ADDITION FOR THE FOUR EXTRA. THAT'S THE THAT'S THE MODEL THAT AND THE GATEHOUSE WHICH WILL FUNCTION AS ITS OWN INDIVIDUAL LOT. THAT'S THE IN A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT LIGHTING SCHEME. BUT
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THOSE ARE THE MAJOR CHANGES THAT GO FROM 36 TO NOW 40. I MEAN I THINK THAT'S A COOL LITTLE AREA THERE. YEAH. WHAT WILL THAT LOOK LIKE? IS IT JUST LIKE ZERO LOT LINE? THEY'RE NOT ATTACHED OR SOME ARE. SO WE'RE WORKING WITH A TEAM OF ARCHITECTS AND DESIGNERS NOW I SUSPECT SOME OF THOSE WILL BE ATTACHED. THE CLOSEST THING THAT WE HAVE TO ILLUSTRATE WHAT THIS WILL BE IS EDGE OF WOODS OVER BY THE COUNTRY CLUB. THERE IS NO ATTACHMENT OVER THERE. BUT THOSE HOMES HAVE THIS. THEY'RE REALLY CLOSE. YOU'LL BE ABLE IF YOUR HOUSE ISN'T ATTACHED, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO TOUCH YOUR NEIGHBOR'S HOUSE FROM YOUR KITCHEN WINDOW. YEAH. GOTCHA. ALL VERY INTENTIONALLY DESIGNED AND REALLY DIFFICULT TO PULL OFF BECAUSE OF UTILITIES AND EASEMENTS AND AEP BOXES AND ALL THAT JAZZ THAT WE'RE TRYING TO IRON THROUGH TO PULL OFF THAT TYPE OF ESTHETIC. AND SO YOU THINK THAT'S THE I MEAN, THAT'S THE BIG DRAW FOR WHOEVER'S GOING TO PURCHASE IN THAT AREA. I'M JUST THINKING, YEAH. SO WE'VE GOT WE'VE GOT THREE DIFFERENT SUB AREAS, RIGHT. THE ESTATES LOTS ARE THE ONES INSIDE THE ROAD. RIGHT. THESE ARE ALL EACH OF THESE LOTS ARE BETWEEN TWO ACRES AND THE SMALLEST IS THIS GUY UP HERE. HE'S JUST UNDER AN ACRE. SO. SO THIS IS WHAT WE'RE CONSIDERING OR CALLING THE ESTATE? LOTS. WE HAVE THE SESSIONS VILLAGE PIECE, WHICH IS THE CLUSTER POSTAGE STAMP LOTS WITH LARGE HOMES. AND THEN THE BALANCE. ALL OF THESE OTHER LOTS ARE ALL A MINIMUM OF 100FT IN WIDTH. SO THEY'RE A PRETTY TYPICAL COUNTRY CLUB COMMUNITIES LOT SIZE. SO THREE DIFFERENT PRODUCT TYPES. YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU. THEIR HOMES ARE LIKE 0.18 EACH. LIKE I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE SIZE OF THE ACREAGE. ACREAGE. THEY ARE I'M GOING TO SAY 0.4 TO 0.6, MAYBE 0.3 TO 0.6. VERY SMALL. I'M JUST CURIOUS. SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE HOMES. YEAH. BETWEEN 3500 AND 4000FT■!S. AGAIN, VERY SIMILAR O EDGE OF WOODS. PARDON? SO YOU WILL BE ABLE TO. OH, ABSOLUTELY. NO QUESTION ABOUT IT. AND IN MANY CASES THEY'LL BE ATTACHED. OKAY. SO YEAH THOSE WILL JUST IN THAT SECTION. JUST IN THAT, JUST IN THAT SECTION. OKAY. CORRECT. I FIND IT HELPFUL. BECAUSE I HAVE A HARD TIME IMAGINING. BUT TO SEE A MAP OF THE BIKE CONNECTIVITY PRE AND POST. YEAH. AND TO THE BIGGER WORLD OF BIKING. YEAH. THAT'S SOMETHING I COULD. OKAY. YEAH. WE CAN PULL SOMETHING LIKE THAT TOGETHER.THANK YOU. YEAH. AND AGAIN, JUST TO REMIND THIS BOARD, FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT WERE ON IT WHEN I WAS HERE A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO AT THAT TIME, THERE WAS A REQUEST FROM THIS BOARD, SPECIFICALLY TO MAKE THE CONNECTION. THE LEISURE PATH CONNECTION FROM THIS NEIGHBORHOOD OVER TO THE PARK HERE AND TO MAKE THE LEISURE TRAIL CONNECTION FROM THERE'S A LITTLE TRELLIS THERE AT BRANDON CRESCENT, WHERE THE PATH STOPPED TO CONNECT THAT PATH DOWN INTO HERE, BOTH OF WHICH WERE DONE AND ARE NOT BEING CHANGED. THE CHANGE IS SIMPLY THAT ONE. WHAT I DESCRIBED THE SECTION OF THE EIGHT EIGHT FOOT PATH THAT'S THERE TODAY THAT WILL TURN INTO THE BRICK SIDEWALK. DO YOU HAVE ANY PICTURES OF SOME OF THE AREAS JUST FOR REFERENCE? I'M SORRY. DO YOU HAVE ANY INSPO PICTURES FOR SOME OF THE AREAS LIKE THE ARCHITECTURE THAT MAYBE JUST TO GIVE US AN IDEA. IT LOOKS REALLY NICE. IT WOULD BE FUN TO SEE. SURE. I MEAN, DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA? I KNOW YOU'RE STILL GOING THROUGH THE PLANNING COMMISSION PROCESS WITH, YOU KNOW, THE ARCHITECTURE AND DESIGN OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS, IS EVOLVING, RIGHT? SO ARE THEY ALL CUSTOM BUILT? THEY WILL IN ALL. I CAN'T IMAGINE ANY BUILDERS WILL BE TAKING DOWN THESE LOTS TO BUILD. THERE WON'T BE SPEC HOMES HERE. THESE WILL ALL BE CUSTOM BUILT HOMES WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE LITTLE SESSIONS VILLAGE PIECE. HOW WE'LL DO THAT. WE'RE STILL DECIDING. GEEZ, DO WE SELL THE LOT WITH THE PLAN? DO WE NEED TO BUILD THE HOUSE AND SELL THE HOUSE AND THE LOT TOGETHER? DO WE? HOW? HOW DO WE SKIN THAT CAT? SO WE HAVEN'T FIGURED THAT PIECE OUT YET. WE'RE STILL TRYING TO WORK THROUGH THAT. BUT THERE ARE SEVERAL ARCHITECTURAL FIRMS THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH TO ESTABLISH THE DESIGN REQUIREMENTS. THE LAST GO ROUND, THERE WAS NOT A REQUIREMENT FOR SLATE ROOFS. I SUSPECT NOW THERE WILL BE A REQUIREMENT FOR SLATE ROOFS. OKAY. THE TYPE OF BRICK THAT IS BEING CHOSEN IS A BIG QUESTION MARK, BECAUSE THERE'S A WHOLE UPHEAVAL IN THE BRICK MANUFACTURING INDUSTRY. SO HOW WILL WE HANDLE THAT? THAT HASN'T
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BEEN DETERMINED. IT WILL BE GEORGIAN. IT WILL IT WILL NOT BE AS FLEXIBLE AS ELY CROSSING, AND IT WILL NOT BE AS STRINGENT GEORGIAN AS EDGE OF WOODS. RIGHT. SO IT WILL BE SOMEWHERE IN BETWEEN. THE OBJECTIVE IS TO IS FOR THIS TO HAVE A FEEL AND A TEXTURE THAT IS DIFFERENT THAN THAN OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS, BUT STILL MAINTAIN THAT, THAT SAME CHARACTER AND QUALITY EXPECTATION AND THE GREEN SPACE AND PARK SPACE. IS THAT HOA OR IS THAT CITY? THAT WAS SO WE'VE GONE THROUGH THAT ON THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, THE GREEN SPACE AND PARK SPACE. SO THERE WILL BE OPEN SPACES DEDICATED TO THE CITY HERE, HERE AND DOWN HERE. THERE IS NO PUBLIC PARK THAT'S BEING BUILT WITH THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. AS SOMEBODY ASKED, WHERE'S THE CLOSEST PLAYGROUND? SO IT LAST TIME I WENT THROUGH THIS, IT WAS ENDORSED THAT THAT WORK. THAT WAS OKAY. I'LL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT ALL OVER AGAIN WITH THIS, WITH THE WITH THIS NEW PLAN. BUT WE ARE NOT PLANNING ON BUILDING A NEIGHBORHOOD PARK WITH THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. OKAY. AND THAT THERE WOULD BE BENCHES OR THERE WILL BE BENCHES ALONG THE BOARDWALK ALONG THE, THE, YOU KNOW, LITTLE DOCK OUT HERE. THERE WILL ALSO BE BENCHES IN THE OVERLOOK AREA. SO WILL THERE ALSO BE LIKE, TRASH CANS? YEAH. DEPOTS. YEAH. YEAH. THE TRASH CANS AND DOGGY POTS ARE ALL MANAGED BY THE HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION. SO ULTIMATELY, THE LOCATION OF THE DOGGY POT THAT WILL BE IRONED OUT AT SOME LATER DATE AS WELL. PARDON. BUT IT IS PART OF IT WOULD HAVE TO BE ONCE THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS BUILT, IT WOULD BE ACCEPTED BY THE HOMEOWNERS, FIRST BY THE CITY AND THEN BY THE HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION. THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION WOULD THEN GO IN AND SAY, WE NEED THREE DOGGY POTS. YOU KNOW, AND THEY WOULD TAKE THAT FROM THERE. THAT WILL NOT SHOW UP IN THE PLANS. AS I GO THROUGH THE PUBLIC ENTITLEMENT PROCESS. IS THERE A WATER FEATURE IN THE PLAN TO KEEP THE WATER? THERE WILL BE THREE AERATORS, SO THERE WILL NOT BE A FOUNTAIN, BUT THERE WILL BE THE BUBBLERS AND THE AERATORS TO KEEP THE, THE ALGAE THERE. AND AGAIN THERE WILL BE WETLAND PLANTINGS AROUND THE PERIMETER OF THE BASIN. YEAH. I'M NOT AS FAMILIAR WITH BRICK SIDEWALKS AND LIKE ADA, WHEELCHAIR ACCESSIBILITY. IS THAT BUILT INTO THAT? SO GOOD QUESTION. ONLYE ARE ADA ACCESBILITYSINOT, BUT SLO OF THPEE SIDEWKS,AL HOW THWHE RPS OCCAM ANDUR THOSEAMPS A RRE HANDL. GOOU O THEREUTOW N ,U'LL NYOICE ALOTL OF E KS AREALDA ACC ASIBLE.ES TH WON'TAT CHAE.NGUT AS BE SIDALKS AEWRE TIR FINHE ALCATIONLOND A WIDTHAND TH, ETAILSDE A DETERRENED, TMIRE DA REQ AREMENTUITHAT WS LDOU BE METO OR PRI FRILY TMAHE THEALS BO T, YOU HEOW,KN WIDTHND THE AND A THE WT ALL C IT EN THEWHHEN WHE SEPARE. RIGAT. MUCHHT LIKE AIDEWAL SDOES. K KINGMA RE THASUYOUT MT THOSEE ERESHOLTH SODS THAT DOESNIT 'TEATECR HAZAR AOF ANYD KIN D.AHYE. A OTHERNYUESTIO Q? INS INK WETHAN OUT R OFUESTIO Q.HE TIM TINEEL FOR TSHI? I HA AVEOT OF LOPLE TPETHA HAV EEN ASKBEG BECAINEUS IT'S EN INE THE WKSOR FORER. WEEV, ITLL SO AGN, WE AIILTBUHE SUB TVISIONDI TWYEARSO AGOND NEV A RELEAERDSE LOTSTSE . NERVEELEASE RTHED I. MEA WE PRN,ED THEIC GETTING READY TO GO AND WE DECIDED, NAH, THIS DOESN'T FEEL QUITE RIGHT. PUT IT ON A BACK BURNER. ALL KINDS OF THINGS HAVE BEEN GOING ON IN TOWN THAT TOOK OUR ATTENTION AWAY FROM THIS. WE'RE NOW BACK AT IT. WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE ENTITLEMENT PROCESS. I'M CERTAIN THAT THIS WILL CHANGE AND MORPH AS IT GOES THROUGH THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND COUNCIL AND ALL THE OTHER BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. WE ARE GOING TO START DOING SOME SITE WORK OVER THE WINTER, AND EVEN EVEN IN NOVEMBER, WE'LL BE MOVING SOME OF THE STREET TREES, RIGHT. AND COMING IN AND PUTTING IN NEW STREET TREES AND A NEW PLANTING SCHEME. I'M GETTING TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. WHEN WILL WE RELEASE IT? WILL WE RELEASE IT A YEAR FROM NOW THAT WOULD BE FANTASTIC. I WOULD THINK IT WOULD BE SUCCESS IF WE'RE ABLE TO RELEASE THE LOTS IN NOVEMBER OF 25. I DON'T KNOW WHETHER WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO THAT OR NOT.
A LOT. THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION WILL HAVE A LOT TO DO WITH, DO WE WANT TO BUILD THE
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GATEHOUSE AND HAVE THAT AS REALTY'S OFFICE? DO WE WANT TO BUILD HALF OF THE LOTS IN THE SESSIONS VILLAGE PIECE? ALL OF THOSE THINGS WILL HAVE TO BE IRONED OUT AND DECIDED BEFORE RELEASING THE NEIGHBORHOOD. YOU KNOW, IT'S A DOUBLE EDGED SWORD. I WORK FOR A COMPANY THAT IS EXCRUCIATINGLY DETAILED, AND THEY LOOK AT THESE THINGS AND TURN THEM EVERY WHICH WAY BEFORE DECISIONS ARE MADE. BUT WE ALSO ARE NOT, AS A TYPICAL DEVELOPER, MOTIVATED BY TIME. RIGHT? TYPICALLY, A DEVELOPER WOULD SAY, ALL RIGHT, SUBDIVISION IS DONE. WE NEED TO SELL THESE WITHIN 12 MONTHS OR 24 MONTHS. I'M CONFIDENT THAT THAT THE ABSORPTION OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD WILL TAKE WELL OVER A DECADE, BECAUSE IT'S NOT ONLY WILL THE LOTS BE EXPENSIVE, THEY WILL WE WILL BE STICKLERS ON WHAT YOU CAN AND CAN'T DO. YOU CAN'T REBUILD SESSIONS VILLAGE OR EDGE OF WOODS WHEN YOU HAVE A BUYER THAT SAYS, BUT NO, I WANT A FIRST FLOOR MASTER. NO, I WANT MY KITCHEN TO BUMP OUT. THAT'S NOT GOING TO WORK IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. AND TYPICALLY, THE BUYERS IN THESE NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE VERY SPECIFIC EXPECTATIONS. YOU KNOW, THEY'RE PAYING AN EXORBITANT AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR A PIECE OF DIRT FOR A PLAN AND WANT THEIR OWN FINGERPRINT ON IT. AND WE WILL NOT BE RECEPTIVE TO ALLOWING CHANGES TO BE MADE, I GUESS IS THE BEST WAY I CAN SAY IT. AND MAYBE THIS ISN'T. THIS PROBABLY ISN'T THE REALM OF PARKS AND TRAILS, BUT MY ONLY CONCERN WITH WHAT YOU JUST SAID IS IF A REAL ESTATE COMPANY OCCUPIES THAT PROPERTY UNTIL THE LAST ONE IS SOLD, IS THAT LIKE AN ADVERTISEMENT SPOT FOR TEN YEARS? LIKE THAT WOULD CONCERN ME. WHAT ABOUT WHAT ABOUT SIGNAGE? AND NOBODY REALLY WANTS THAT IN THEIR SPACE. SO IF THIS IF MY PREDICTION IS RIGHT, LET ME START BY SAYING THAT I GOT TO QUALIFY IT. IF MY PREDICTION IS RIGHT AND THAT IS A MODEL HOME, RIGHT? OR A PLACE WHERE THE REALTORS STAY, THERE'S A PROCESS THAT I HAVE TO GO THROUGH WITH THE CITY THAT SAYS, ALL RIGHT, YOU IT HAS TO BE APPROVED. I THINK IT'S THE PLANNING COMMISSION, RIGHT. SO IS THERE A SIGN? IS THE SIGN ILLUMINATED? DOES IT LOOK LIKE A RETAIL ESTABLISHMENT, OR DOES IT LOOK LIKE A HOME. SO. OR IS IT NOT A MODEL HOME. YOU KNOW, SO LOTS OF QUESTIONS. BUT THERE ARE THE SAFETY NETS AT THE CITY LEVEL THAT THAT REQUIRE A REVIEW. AND ULTIMATELY AN APPROVAL FOR CREATING SOMETHING LIKE A MODEL HOME. SO AGAIN, IF MY PREDICTION IS RIGHT AND IT'S A TEN YEAR ABSORPTION MODEL, HOMES ARE GOOD FOR TWO YEARS, THREE YEARS, THREE YEARS. SO YOU'D HAVE TO COME BACK WHERE DO THE PEOPLE PARK? HOW WHAT ARE YOUR HOURS OF OPERATION? ARE YOU INTERRUPTING THE DAILY LIVES OF THE PEOPLE AROUND YOU? SO? SO THERE IS A PROCESS TO LOOK AT THAT. HOW MANY UNITS? TOTAL? TOTAL OF 40 LOTS. BLENHEIM IS THE NAME OF THE SUBDIVISION. BLENHEIM B L E N H E I N. IT'S A WINSTON CHURCHILL'S CHILDHOOD HOME B L AS OPPOSED TO BLENHEIM. N H E I N AND IT'S ALSO CONSIDERED EAST NINE. IT'S GOT A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT NAMES. YEAH. EAST NINE. AT ONE POINT IT WAS CALLED BRIDGEWATER. YEAH. IT'S BEEN A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT NAMES, TOM, I WOULD IMAGINE YOU TALKED ABOUT SHE ASKED THE QUESTION. I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU WHAT THE TIMELINE WAS. YEAH. AND I HEARD YOUR EXPLANATION. AND I'M SITTING HERE LOOKING AT THAT POND. I'M GOING, THAT POND HAS GOT TO BE 5 OR 6FT DEEP OR DEEPER OR OR DEEPER DOWN. IT WOULD BE DEEPER. IT'S TAPERED.YEAH. THAT WAS AN ORIGINAL POND BY NEW ALBANY COMPANY BUILT THAT. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. TWO DIFFERENT PONDS. SO THERE'S A POND TO THE NORTH. YOU'RE RIGHT THAT THAT'S THE POND UP HERE. THAT POND WILL ALSO BE DREDGED. TRY TO ELIMINATE THE CATTAILS, WATER LILIES PLANTED, BUT THAT THE PERIMETER OF THAT BASIN THAT'S ACTUALLY UNDER THE JURISDICTION OF THE ARMY CORPS AND THE EPA. SO YOU CAN'T JUST DO ANYTHING TO TOUCH THAT ONE, OKAY? YOU CAN'T DO JUST ANYTHING WE CAN CLEAN IT UP. RIGHT. GET RID OF THE YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF YOU CAN IMPROVE IT. WE CAN IMPROVE IT. SO WE'LL BE DOING THAT. IT'S THE POND IN THE MIDDLE RIGHT, THAT EXISTS. THAT ONE IS GOING TO BE, I THINK YOUR ACHILLES HEEL TO GET DONE WHEN YOU WHEN IT SEEMS TO ME THAT'S GOING TO BE A IT'S GOING TO BE A MAJOR UNDERTAKING. IT'S GOING TO BE A BEAR. YEAH.
AND DON'T FORGET, I'VE GOT ELECTRIC LINES AND CABLE LINES THAT ARE ALL. IF YOU GO OUT
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THERE NOW, YOU'LL SEE THE PEDESTALS RIGHT AROUND THE PERIMETER FROM THE ORIGINAL LIGHTING SCHEME. YEAH. SO THIS IS A BIG UNDERTAKING THAT IS REALLY COMPLEX WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE. AND ENTITIES THAT ARE INVOLVED. THE ARMY CORPS, THE EPA. I HAVE A SUBDIVISION THAT WAS ACCEPTED BY THE CITY. SO WHEN I TALK ABOUT MOVING STREET TREES, THOSE STREET TREES ARE ACTUALLY OWNED BY THE CITY. THEY'RE NOT OWNED BY US. SO TO MOVE THEM IS A THING. RIGHT? SO THERE ARE LOTS OF LAYERS OF COMPLEXITY TO MAKING THE MODIFICATIONS THAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO MAKE THE GOOD THING IS THIS IS AN IMPROVEMENT PLAN TO MAKE IT BETTER. I'M NOT TRYING TO MAKE IT WORSE. I'M TRYING TO MAKE IT BETTER. SO HOPEFULLY IT'LL ALL WORK OUT.THAT'S WHAT I'M GOING WITH SUZANNE. IS THAT FOR BRANDON RIGHT THERE TO THE RIGHT? YES.
THAT IS THE INTERSECTION OF LAMBTON PARK AND BRANDON ROAD. RIGHT. BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THAT'S WHERE THE PARK IS THAT THIS CONNECTS TO WITH THE LITTLE TRELLIS RIGHT THERE AT THAT INTERSECTION. YEAH. YEAH, YEAH, I WAS JUST TRYING TO GET MY BEARINGS. YES. EXACTLY. SO REDFORD AND FARBER ARE JUST UP TO THE NORTH, THE TOP OF THE PAGE. OKAY. FARBER'S HERE REDFORD IS HERE, RIGHT? THANK YOU. JOHN. YOU'RE WELCOME. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I'LL BE BACK IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS. SURE. OKAY. WHAT IS THE TIMELINE? BUT WHEN DOES THIS GO TO PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION? INFORM ME AND I GO BACK TO THEM ON A ON THE 18TH OF NOVEMBER. SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE IN REZONING AND PRELIMINARY PLANS APPLICATIONS. AND THEN WE'VE GOT THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND FINAL PLAN. AND THAT WILL BE WITHIN THIS GOES BACK TO THE EN, GOES BACK TO THEM. BEFORE. DO WE KNOW WHAT THE PRICE POINT WILL BE FOR THE DIFFERENT SECTIONS? JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY, NO, WE DO NOT. I KNOW I PRICED THE LOTS WITH THE ORIGINAL PLAN AND WAS TOLD I WASN'T BEING AGGRESSIVE ENOUGH, SO THAT'S KIND OF INDICATION I YEAH, I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE IMPROVEMENT PLAN THAT WE'RE UNDERTAKING FOR THE SUBDIVISION IS NORTH OF $7 MILLION OF IMPROVEMENTS. OKAY. SO THEY'LL BE VERY EXPENSIVE. YEAH. SO WE'LL HAVE TO OBSERVE THAT. YEAH, YEAH. AND WHAT ABOUT LIGHTING IN THERE. BECAUSE IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS HUGE POND AND SOME I'M ASSUMING THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME LIGHT IN. SO IT'S NOT THAT, YOU KNOW, THE POND ISN'T HUGE, RIGHT? I MEAN, I SEE IT LOOKS HUGE. IT'S YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE AN IT'S NOT AN INSIGNIFICANT IT'S PROBABLY ABOUT AN ACRE. YEAH. MAYBE A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN THAT. THERE IS, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE CITY STANDARD FOR STREET LIGHTS AT INTERSECTIONS. SO THERE WILL BE A STREET LIGHT AT THE INTERSECTION OF THE CUL DE SAC AND THE ROAD. THERE'S LIGHTING AT BOTH THE NORTH ENTRANCE AND THE SOUTH ENTRANCE. THERE WILL ALSO BE GAS LIGHTS THAT ARE INCORPORATED BOTH IN THE OVERLOOK TO THE NORTH AND THE PIER ON THE SOUTH. THERE IS A LITTLE SHEET. CAN YOU SCROLL DOWN TO THE WALL SECTION? I THINK IT MIGHT BE ONE MORE.
THERE WE GO. I SUSPECT THERE WILL BE GAS LIGHTS ON THE TOPS OF THE PIERS AT THE DRIVEWAY ENTRANCES, BUT AGAIN, THAT WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT LIGHTING, THAT'S MUCH MORE OF AN ESTHETIC THING.
IT REALLY DOESN'T THROW OFF MUCH LIGHT FOR SECURITY OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. THE HOMES WILL NOT BE ALLOWED TO BE UP LIT. WE'LL DO OUR BEST TO FIGHT LIKE HECK. THE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT TRIED TO DO THAT WITH LANDSCAPE LIGHTING. WE WILL NOT ALLOW LANDSCAPE LIGHTING AGAIN. WE'LL HAVE TO FIGHT LIKE HECK WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS WHEN THEY GO IN THERE AND DO THAT, BECAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE LIKE TO DO. AND WE RESIST. SOMETIMES WE WIN. MOST OF THE TIMES WE DON'T. HOW DO YOU GO UP ON ONE SIDE? TELL ME ABOUT THE PICTURES. SO THE ONE ON THE TOP IS INTENDED TO ILLUSTRATE IS INTENDED TO ILLUSTRATE THE VIEW ON IT. IT REMINDS ME OF LIKE PRINCE GEORGE DRIVE. IS THERE ANOTHER ONE I CAN? IS THAT ONE WORK HERE? THAT ONE. SO THE
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PICTURE ON THE TOP IS INTENDED TO BE I'M STANDING RIGHT HERE LOOKING TO THE NORTH AND WEST.SO THAT HOUSE AND THAT FENCE AND LITTLE KIND OF LUTYENS GATEWAY IS RIGHT THERE. THAT SOUTH FEATURE ELEMENT. THAT'S WHAT THAT IS INTENDED TO ILLUSTRATE. THIS IS LOOKING THE OTHER DIRECTION, STANDING WITH MY BACK TO THAT, LOOKING AT KIND OF THE START OF NO, NO, I'M SORRY I'M WRONG BECAUSE IT HAS THE SAME FENCE DETAIL THAT'S FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD. THAT MUST BE LIKE LOOKING THIS WAY, LOOKING NORTH, BECAUSE THAT LITTLE FENCE AND BRICK WALL, BRICK SIDEWALK ON BOTH SIDES OF ALL ROADS, ONLY THE FENCE AND PIER IS ON THE INSIDE OF WHAT I CALL THE ESTATE. LOTS THAT FENCE AND BRICK PIER CONDITION DOES NOT EXIST ON THESE LOTS AROUND THE PERIMETER. I SUSPECT THERE WILL BE A PIER IN FENCE CONDITION IN HERE IN THE SESSIONS VILLAGE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT NOT ALONG THAT MAIN DRIVE. KIND OF REMINDS ME OF GEORGETOWN. YEAH, OKAY. I THINK WE KIND OF BEAT THIS TIME. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UNLESS THERE'S SOME OTHER QUESTIONS.
APPRECIATE IT. I WANT TO PULL MEMBERS FOR ANY COMMENTS ABOUT TONIGHT. WE HAVE ONE MORE ITEM
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OF OTHER BUSINESS. MR. CHAIRMAN, I'M SORRY. ONE MORE THING, AND I PROMISE I WILL BE THE FASTEST PRESENTATION I EVER GIVE. OH, YES. OKAY. I'M SORRY. ALL RIGHT, SO WE GET YOU. NO WORRIES. SO UNDER UNDER COUNCIL'S DIRECTION, WE DID HAVE SOME UPDATES EARLIER THIS YEAR TO OUR ATTENDANCE RULES FOR BOARDS AND COMMISSION MEMBERS. SO JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU GUYS BE GIVING ALL OF OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS A HEADS UP ABOUT THESE. THESE BECAME EFFECTIVE IN SEPTEMBER LATE SEPTEMBER OF THIS YEAR. TO BE HONEST WITH YOU GUYS, THIS BOARD DOESN'T MEET TOO, TOO FREQUENTLY. SO MOST OF THESE AREN'T GOING TO APPLY TO YOU GUYS BECAUSE WE DON'T MEET TOO, TOO OFTEN. BUT SO COUNCIL AS OUR CODE WAS CURRENTLY WRITTEN BEFORE THE CHANGE, IF A BOARD MEMBER MISSED FOUR, HAD FOUR OR MORE ABSENCES IN A 12 MONTH PERIOD, GROUNDS FOR FORFEITURE OF THEIR POSITION WAS AUTOMATICALLY ABLE TO BE, I GUESS, INITIATED OR, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE COULD BE LET GO FROM THEIR POSITION ON A PUBLIC BOARD OR COMMISSION. SO COUNCIL STILL KEPT THIS RULE IN THERE, BUT PROVIDED SOME MORE FLEXIBILITY IN TERMS OF IF AN ABSENCE WOULD BE CONSIDERED EXCUSE IF SOMEONE SOMEONE HAD HAD A MEDICAL EVENT OR AN INJURY TO THEMSELVES OR A FAMILY MEMBER, AND THAT CAUSED THE NEED FOR THEM TO MISS A MEETING, THOSE THOSE THINGS COULD BE CONSIDERED EXCUSED ABSENCES. SO JUST WANTED TO GO OVER THOSE WITH YOU GUYS. AGAIN, THIS BOARD IS NOT REALLY GOING TO RUN INTO THAT TOO, TOO MUCH BECAUSE WE MEET 2 OR 3, MAYBE FOUR TIMES TOTAL, A YEAR. BUT JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU GUYS THIS UPDATE TONIGHT. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. WHAT'S THE PROCESS FOR BEING EXCUSED. WHAT'S THE PROCESS FOR BEING EXCUSED? YEAH. SO I PROBABLY WOULD GIVE YOU MAYBE I'LL SAY THIS ON A METAPHOR. SO CHRISTINE AND I WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS BEFORE THE MEETING. BUT SO IF YOU HAD FOUR ABSENCES THAT WERE ALLOWED IN THE YEAR, I VIEW THAT AS KIND OF LIKE CALLING OFF FROM YOUR NIKE JOB OR A COFFEE SHOP JOB OR SOMETHING WHERE, YOU KNO, THREE TIMES YOU KIND OF LIKE KIND OF LIKE LET IT SLIDE. BUT ON THAT FOURTH TIME YOU NEED TO HAVE A DOCTOR'S NOTE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO THERE'S NOT REALLY A POLICY FOR BEING EXCUSED. IT'S JUST IF YOU KNOW THAT YOU'VE REACHED THAT THRESHOLD OF, OKAY, I KNOW I'VE MISSED FOUR THIS YEAR, I'VE MISSED FIVE THIS YEAR. WHEN YOU SEND IN THAT, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE THERE AT THE MEETING, YOU SHOULD PROBABLY SAY, HEY, I CAN'T BE THERE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING HAPPENED WITH A FAMILY MEMBER OR I'M IN THE HOSPITAL OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT SOME PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY AS WELL.BUT YOU DON'T NEED, I GUESS WHAT I'M GETTING AT IS, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'VE MISSED ONE OUT OF AN ENTIRE YEAR, YOU DON'T NEED TO BE LIKE, FORMALLY EXCUSED OR, YOU KNOW, PROVIDE A REASON OR ANYTHING YOU CAN IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO, BUT IT'S NOT REQUIRED. YEAH. I GUESS IF CURRENTLY YOU'RE EITHER MARKED ABSENT OR PRESENT. SO I GUESS IT'S ANOTHER NEW CATEGORY MIGHT BE EXCUSED ABSENCE IF YOU'RE KEEPING A TALLY. SO IF I KNOW I'M SICK, WOULD I EMAIL CHIP OR EMAIL YOU OR YOU WOULD. YOU COULD EMAIL CHRISTINA WHEN SHE SENDS IT TO. AND JUST IF YOU'RE NOT COMING, JUST PUT YOUR REASON RIGHT THERE. YEAH. AND THEN AGAIN IT'S NOT SOMETHING LIKE WE'RE NOT SITTING IN A BACK ROOM ON OUR LAPTOP. OH MY GOSH. TRICIA WAS NOT HERE THIS TIME. LET ME
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FIGURE OUT THE REASON WHY. IT'S NOTHING LIKE THAT AT ALL. IT'S JUST LIKE RULES. YEAH. SO I LIKE HOW RULES WORK. TO BE CLEAR, THE RULE IS ONLY TRIGGERED UPON THE FOURTH. YEAH, IN ONE YEAR PERIOD. SO THE RULES IT SAYS IT RIGHT IN THE LANGUAGE. YEAH. SO HOW DOES THAT WORK FOR THIS BOARD THAT ONLY MEETS A HANDFUL OF TIMES A YEAR. YOU GUYS ARE GOOD IF YOU MISS OR YOU'RE NOT PARTICIPATING. YOU KNOW I THINK IF YOU HAVE THREE MEETINGS AND YOU MISS OR YOU HAVE THREE MEETINGS AND YOU MISS ALL THREE MEETINGS, YEAH, YEAH, YEAH, THAT'S YEAH, THAT'S THAT'S 100% VERSUS RATIOS ON OTHER BOARDS. RIGHT. AND WE DO KEEP TRACK OF THAT. AND I BELIEVE ANNUALLY OR WHEN IT'S REQUESTED BY COUNCIL MEMBERS, WE DO PROVIDE THAT ATTENDANCE INFORMATION WITH THEM. I DO THINK FOR A COUPLE BOARDS THAT'S REQUESTED ANNUALLY JUST TO GET KIND OF LIKE WHAT YOU'RE DISCUSSING, SO THAT WITH THIS RULES AND THE WAY THAT WE TRACK IT, IT WOULD NOT PROHIBIT COUNCIL FROM LOOKING AT THAT. YEAH. OKAY. I HAVE A QUESTION LIKE JUST A GENERAL QUESTION. SO AS I'VE ATTENDED DIFFERENT THINGS, I'VE NOTICED THAT SOMETIMES I WILL GO TO LIKE A MEETING AND IT'S VERY CLEAR THAT THE PEOPLE THAT ARE WORKING ON THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT HAVE NOT WATCHED ANY OF THE PREVIOUS MEETINGS ON THAT TOPIC, LIKE, ARE THERE ANY REQUIREMENTS THAT SAY, LIKE AS SOMETHING GOES THROUGH THE FUNNEL, LIKE AS SOMETHING GOES THROUGH THE PROCESS? AS A HOMEOWNER, IF SOMEBODY IS VOTING AND HAS THE, YOU KNOW, THE FATE OF A PROJECT IN THEIR HANDS THAT THEY HAVEN'T WATCHED THE PREVIOUS THINGS LEADING UP TO THAT DAY IS CONCERNING TO ME. ARE THERE ANY REQUIREMENTS FOR THAT? LIKE LIK, I DON'T KNOW, LIKE SAY SOMETHING BIG COMES TO CITY COUNCIL OR PLANNING COMMISSION OR WHATEVER IT IS THAT THEY HAVE TO WATCH AT LEAST 1 OR 2 PREVIOUS THINGS LEADING UP TO THAT DAY, BECAUSE I OFTEN FIND, LIKE AS A MEMBER OF THE AUDIENCE AND A HOMEOWNER AND A AND A CONCERNED, YOU KNOW, MEMBER OF THE NEW ALBANY COMMUNITY, LIKE, I'M SURPRISED TO SEE THAT SOMETIMES IT SEEMS AS IF IT'S THE FIRST TIME THEY'RE HEARING THAT. AND THIS IS LIKE THE FOURTH TIME IT'S BEEN DISCUSSED IN THIS FORUM, JUST NOT WITH THAT GROUP. YEAH. AND I KNOW WE MIGHT NOT HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THIS BECAUSE WE'RE EARLY ON IN THE PROCESS. YEAH, BUT AS THIS GOES DOWN THE LINE, IF SOMETHING LIKE THIS GOES IN FRONT OF SOMEBODY THAT'S MAKING DECISIONS AND THEY HAVEN'T WATCHED THIS AND THEY HAVEN'T WATCHED THE PLANNING. YEAH, LIKE THAT'S CONCERNING TO ME BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING INTO IT WITHOUT ALL OF THE INFORMATION OR HEARING ALL OF THE CONCERNS THAT PEOPLE HAD. YEAH. BEFORE MAKING SOME SORT OF DETERMINATION, I DON'T KNOW. YEAH. SOMETHING THAT HIT ME. I FORGET WHICH ONE IT WAS, BUT IT WAS VERY CLEAR. YEAH, THAT THEY HAD THEY HAD NEVER SEEN THIS BEFORE. YEAH. THAT WAS CONCERNING. YEAH. THAT'S A GOOD FEEDBACK. WE'VE SO WE'VE IT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT. I'LL GIVE YOU A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE. SO WE ALWAYS TRY IF THERE'S ANYTHING. SO I'LL USE THE HAMLET FOR AN EXAMPLE OF SOMETHING THAT WENT THROUGH MULTIPLE BOARDS, ANYTHING THAT WAS VERY PERTINENT FROM LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU GUYS APPROVE THE APPLICATION, YOUR CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL THAT MADE IT THROUGH ON THE ARB STAFF REPORT AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF REPOR. GRANTED, SOMEONE HAS TO LOOK FOR THAT AND SEE WHAT THE BIG, YOU KNOW, FINDING OR CONDITION THAT CAME OUT OF THOSE MEETINGS WAS. BUT I THINK IT'S A GOOD POINT.THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT GET LOST IN THE SHUFFLE, LIKE THEY DIDN'T GET AND CHRISTINA, YOU'RE AMAZING. LIKE SHE WRITES DOWN LIKE I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU DO IT, BUT SOMETIMES THERE'S LIKE LITTLE THINGS THAT COME UP THAT DON'T MAKE OFFICIAL BECAUSE IT WASN'T MADE SUCH A BIG THING. IT WASN'T LIKE A YEAH, IT'S LIKE BECAUSE I'M MAKING NOTES. I'M LIKE, OKAY, THERE ARE SOME VERY SPECIFIC THINGS THAT CAME UP. I MEAN, THIS PROJECT LOOKS GREAT. YEAH. SO BUT SOME MORE COMPLEX PROJECTS, LIKE SOME LITTLE THINGS GOT LOST IN THE SHUFFLE. AND WHEN IT CAME TO THE END, THOSE THINGS DIDN'T GET IN THERE. AND THAT WAS DISAPPOINTING BECAUSE THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN. YEAH. AND WITH THE LITTLE THINGS. YEAH. BIG DECISIONS. AND WE COULD SO ONE THING THAT WE'RE DOING AS A DEPARTMENT IS WE'RE ALL KIND OF TRANSITIONING INTO THIS MORE DIGITAL WORLD THAT WE'RE ALL LIVING IN. SO WE ARE YOU GUYS WILL GET A SURVEY LINK HERE IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS TALKING ABOUT HOW, LIKE, ALL YOUR PACKETS WILL BE DIGITAL FROM NOW ON BECAUSE WE'RE ALL MOVING TO PAPERLESS, PAPERLESS SYSTEM AND WE'RE ALWAYS THINKING OF WAYS TO INCLUDE OR TO BUILD IN EFFICIENCIES AND BUILD IN KNOWLEDGE FOR THE BOARD MEMBERS.
SO, YOU KNOW, ONE, THIS IS JUST AN IDEA. I'M NOT SAYING WE'LL DO IT, BUT WE COULD WE COULD TALK ABOUT IT INTERNALLY IS MAYBE IN OUR STAFF REPORTS FROM NOW ON WHERE WE HAVE THESE APPLICATIONS THAT HAVE GONE THROUGH MULTIPLE BOARDS. MAYBE THERE'S LIKE A COVER PAGE THAT HAS LINKS TO THE VIDEOS FOR ALL THE PREVIOUS MEETINGS, KIND OF WHAT WE DID FOR THE HAMLET ON THE WEBSITE.
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YOU KNOW, WE BUILT AN ENTIRE DASHBOARD. I'M SURE SOME OF YOU I KNOW YOU'VE INTERACTED WITH IT, I NEED TO GO BACK TO IT BECAUSE IT'S REALLY IT'S VERY OVERWHELMING. THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION. THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION, BUT MAYBE WE CAN PULL SOME OF THOSE THINGS THAT PEOPLE HAVE FOUND USEFUL AND PUT THEM LIKE FRONT PAGE IN AN APPLICATION, LIKE YOU'RE SAYING, AND KIND OF TRYING TO TAKE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND MAYBE MORPH IT INTO SOMETHING THAT WE DO. SO IT'S SOMETHING WE COULD THINK ABOUT. WE ARE GOING TO DO A SURVEY AT THE END OF THIS YEAR TO INFORM YOU GUYS ABOUT THE DIGITAL PACKETS, BUT ALSO ASK YOU SOME OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT, LIKE THE USABILITY OF OUR WEBSITE OR ANY OTHER SUGGESTIONS THAT YOU GUYS CAN THINK OF TO HELP THE BOARDS AND COMMISSION PROCESS. OVERALL. THAT'S ONE OF THEM. I'LL DEFINITELY REMEMBER WHAT YOU SAID. PROBABLY THE BIGGEST THING THAT I'VE SEEN THAT I'M LIKE, OH, THAT'S SURPRISING TO ME. YEAH. LIKE YOU CAN'T YOU CAN'T MAKE MEANINGFUL DECISIONS WITHOUT ALL OF THE INFORMATION. YEAH. AND IT SEEMS LIKE IT SHOULD BE REQUIRED, AT LEAST, YOU KNOW, TO SEE THE LAST COUPLE THROUGH. YEAH. YOU KNOW. YEAH. I THINK WE FEEL THE SAME IN TERMS OF JUST BEING EDUCATED AS A BOARD MEMBER. I WOULD DEFINITELY AGREE WITH YOU. AND MAYBE THERE'S A WAY WE CAN HELP INCENTIVIZE THAT OR PUSH THAT A LITTLE BIT IF IT'S JUST MORE PROMINENT IN THE MATERIALS. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? LIKE AT THE FRONT, KIND OF LIKE WHAT WE DID WITH THE HAMLET. YEAH, I LIKE THAT IDEA OF THE LINKS. YEAH. THAT'S YEAH, WE CAN PLAY AROUND WITH THAT. YEAH. BUT IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE YOU GUYS CAN THINK OF THAT WOULD KIND OF MAKE THINGS EASIER FOR YOU OR EVEN JUST KIND OF LOOKING AT BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AS A WHOLE. WE'LL HAVE THAT SURVEY OUT.WHOOPS. I'M SO SORRY. HOPEFULLY WITHIN THE NEXT 2 TO 3 WEEKS I THINK SEND IT OUT TO YOU GUYS.
IT'S ALL ANONYMOUS. SO YOU CAN READ US THE FILTH IF YOU WANT. I THINK A GOOD IDEA IS BECAUSE EVERY BOARD HAS THEIR OWN RESPONSIBILITY, SO THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE SEE THAT WE DON'T MAKE DECISIONS ON, THAT WE HEAR THE INFORMATION AND WE NEED THE INFORMATION TO MAKE THE DECISIONS. IT'D BE A GOOD IDEA TO, ESPECIALLY IN THE MORE COMPLEX THINGS LIKE THE HAMLET.
YEAH. ONCE IT'S AT WHATEVER, WHEREVER IT'S AT. IS IT AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION? IS IT FINALLY AT CITY COUNCIL, YOU KNOW, WHERE ARE WE AT IN THE PLANS? IT'D BE GREAT TO REVIEW THAT AT THE BEGINNING TO SAY, HERE'S WHERE WE'VE BEEN. SO FAR. IT'S BEEN THROUGH THIS. IT'S BEEN THROUGH THIS. AND THAT. THESE ARE THE DECISIONS THAT WERE MADE THAT LITTLE BIT OF REVIEW, I THINK WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL, ESPECIALLY FOR SOME OF THOSE MORE COMPLEX THINGS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. YEAH. DO YOU THINK THE WAY THAT WE DID THAT FOR THE HAMLET WAS ENOUGH, OR DO YOU THINK IT NEEDED TO BE MORE? I THINK IT NEEDED TO BE MORE BECAUSE I THINK THERE WERE SO MANY PUBLIC MEETINGS AND THERE WAS SO MUCH DISCUSSION FROM THE PUBLIC. AND SOMETIMES WHEN THAT'S HAPPENING, THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT'S SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN AT THAT MEETING.
THEY'RE JUST THEY'RE FIRED UP ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THE ISSUE IS OR NOT FIRED UP. SO A GOOD EXPLANATION FOR THE PUBLIC IS ALSO HELPFUL. I THINK THAT WE'RE HERE TONIGHT TO TALK ABOUT THIS. THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO REVIEW. THIS IS WHAT'S BEEN DONE. IN CASE YOU'VE MISSED THI, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK WE CAN EXPECT EVERY RESIDENT OR I THINK IF YOU'RE ON A BOARD OR COMMISSION, YOU PROBABLY SHOULD EDUCATE YOURSELF. BUT WE CAN'T EXPECT EVERYBODY IN THE CITY TO DO THAT BECAUSE THEY WON'T. YEAH, I LIKE WHAT YOU DID LAST TIME. LIKE, HERE'S HERE'S WHY WE'RE HERE. YEAH. HERE'S WHAT WE'RE NOT DOING TODAY. YEAH. AND HERE'S WHEN YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THOSE THINGS. SO I THANK YOU FOR THAT BECAUSE THAT WAS HUGELY HELPFUL. YEAH. YEAH. AND WELL WE I APPRECIATE THIS FEEDBACK. WE APPRECIATE THIS FEEDBACK. WE'LL THINK ABOUT THAT. AND WE'LL ALSO THINK ABOUT LIKE WHAT'S HELPFUL FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY COME IN THIS ROOM. BUT AS WE ALL KNOW THERE'S LIKE 70,000 OTHER PEOPLE THAT DON'T COME INTO THIS ROOM. SO MAKING IT, PRESENTING IT IN A WAY THAT CAN BE PUT ON OUR WEBSITE THAT'S INTUITIVE, BUT ALSO TRANSFER IT INTO THIS ROOM. SO IT'S THE SAME INFORMATION IN BOTH PLACES. SO GOOD FEEDBACK ON THE WEBSITE, LIKE AS I'M SAYING ON THE WEBSITE, YEAH, IT'S. I KNOW WHERE TO FIND THINGS BECAUSE I KNOW THAT I NEED TO GO TO THE THING. I NEED TO FIND THE COMMISSION THAT IT WENT THROUGH, THE BOARD, THAT IT WENT THROUGH. BUT THE AVERAGE PERSON DOESN'T KNOW THAT YOU NEED TO GO TO THESE FOUR DIFFERENT SPOTS TO FIND THE FOUR DIFFERENT THINGS. SO COULD THERE BE SOMETHING LIKE, HEY, IF YOU IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN THIS TOPIC, CLICK ON THIS. AND HERE ARE THOSE MEETINGS, RIGHT? INSTEAD OF LIKE YOU'RE KIND OF LIKE LOOKING FOR A NEEDLE IN A HAYSTACK, ESPECIALLY IF YOU DON'T LIKE IF I WANTED TO GET CAUGHT UP ON THE EAST NINE. RIGHT. I WOULD LIKE WHERE DO I GO? LIKE MAYBE THERE WAS A MEETING. HE SAID THERE MIGHT HAVE BEEN A MEETING OR TWO YEARS AGO. LIKE, IF I'M INTERESTED IN THAT. WHERE ARE THOSE MEETING LINKS LIKE THAT? I COULD GET CAUGHT UP. YEAH. SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE YOU GUYS ARE WAY BETTER AT THAT. I STINK AT TECHNOLOGY BECAUSE I'LL TALK TO JOSH. JOSH
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MAGICALLY MAKE THAT HAPPEN. THAT WOULD BE AMAZING. YEAH, WE'LL TALK TO JOSH ABOUT IT. HE IS A WIZARD. YEAH, HE REALLY IS. HE IS? NO, WE WERE RECENTLY INVOLVED IN A IN A CASE WHERE THE ZONING PROCESS GOT MESSED UP YEARS AGO. BACK IN 19 OR WAIT, OH EIGHT OR OH NINE, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHICH, BUT BASICALLY IT IT WAS APPROVED AND NEVER GOT DONE. AND THEN NEW OWNERS GOT INVOLVED AND THEY DECIDED THEY WANTED TO MAKE A CHANGE. SO THEY CAME IN AND KIND OF PUT THE FOOT IN IT BECAUSE THEY CAME IN AND THEY SAID, WELL, WE WANT TO MAKE A CHANGE. WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS. WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT. AND ALL OF A SUDDEN EVERYBODY WENT, WAIT A MINUTE, THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE DONE TEN YEARS AGO. SO I TOOK STAFF ON, YOU KNOW, I WAS IN THE STAFF'S FACE OVER THAT. WHY DIDN'T YOU GO OUT AND LOOK AT IT? YOU HAD THE INSPECTORS. THIS DIDN'T HAPPEN.WHAT? HOW DID THIS HAPPEN? YOU KNOW, WE WERE A LOT YOUNGER THEN. YES. WE'RE NOT AS PROFESSIONAL AS THEY WERE. YEAH, BUT THE WAY WE RESEARCHED IT WAS, WAS BY THE, I FORGET WHAT YOU CALL IT, THE ITEM NUMBER. LIKE YOUR CODE. YEP, YEP. AND WE WENT IN AND THAT WAS LINKED. I THINK IT'S EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE TALKING. THAT WAS LINKED. THERE WAS A PROGRAM THAT LINKED ALL THOSE CONNECTED TO THAT PROPERTY SO YOU COULD SIT DOWN NO MATTER WHAT COMMITTEE YOU LOOKED AT AND START. AND YOU PULL THAT ONE DOWN AND READ IT, PULL THAT ONE DOWN AND READ IT. PULL THAT ONE DOWN AND THAT'S IN THERE. NOW THAT'S WHAT'S IN THERE. WE CAN THINK ABOUT THAT LIKE IT'S PUBLIC FACING. SO YOU CAN CLICK ON A PROPERTY AND SEE EVERYTHING THAT'S EVER HAPPENED WITH THAT PROPERTY TO A CERTAIN EXTENT. LIKE WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY'S LIKE THEY BUILT A NEW BATHROOM OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT ON THERE. BUT LIKE IF THEY GOT A VARIANCE OR BUILT A POOL RIGHT, ALL OF THAT SHOULD BE ON THERE. WE'RE CONSTANTLY BUILDING THAT OUT. I MEAN, THAT'S BEEN A WORK IN PROGRESS FOR TWO YEARS. I THINK KRISTINA'S GONE BACK AND EVERYTHING FROM LIKE 2018 TO PRESENT IS IN THERE. WE'RE STILL LIKE, OH, I'M SO SORRY. WE'RE SLOWLY GOING BACKWARDS. COME ON.
WE'RE SLOWLY GOING BACKWARDS. HE'S GOING ON. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO. YEAH. ALRIGHT.
WE'RE SLOWLY GOING BACKWARDS TO CAN I HAVE ONE MORE QUICK COMMENT? SURE. SORRY, CHRIS. I ASKED FOR THIS BEFORE AND STILL DIDN'T SEE IT TODAY. AND BEING NEWER AND NOT OUT MUCH, I REALLY NEED THE BIG VIEW LIKE WHERE'S 62? WHERE'S MORE LIKE I DID NOT KNOW WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT.
YEAH, I NEED AND IT'D BE NICE IF WE ALWAYS HAD THIS SAME BIG VIEW AND THEN A LITTLE CIRCLE. THIS IS WHERE WE ARE TODAY. YEP. SO I MEAN, OTHER PEOPLE HAVE BEEN STARING AT MAPS IN NEW ALBANY FOR 20 YEARS, AND THAT'S NOT ME. YEAH, YEAH, IT'S HARD TO ENGAGE WHEN I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. YEAH. GOTCHA. THANKS FOR SHARING THAT. WELL, THANKS EVERYBODY FOR THE COMMENTS AND INPUT AND I APPRECIATE IT. I'M SURE STAFF IS GOING TO TAKE IT AND RUN WITH I.
ALL RIGHT. I THINK WE PULLED EVERYBODY FOR COMMENT. COULD I HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN. OH I MOVE THAT. WE ADJOURN. I HAVE A SECOND, PLEASE. THANK YOU. ADJOURN. PLEASE. MISS STEELMAN.
YES, MISS STOUGHTON. YES, MR. STARBUCK? YES, MISS. SEGNINI. YES, MISS BOT. YES. THE MOTION PASSES WITH ALL VOTES IN
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