[I. Call to Order]
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          AND I DIDN'T BRING MY CHEAT SHEET, BUT I HAVE THE AGENDA, SO I KNOW THAT MY COLLEAGUES WILL HELP ME OUT IF I GO ASTRAY. SO WE CAN. I BELIEVE, GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED WITH THE OH, THANK YOU. THAT'S JUST WHAT I NEEDED. WE FIRST OF ALL, NEED TO ASK THE STAFF TO CALL FOR ROLL CALL FOR ATTENDANCE. MISS BONNIE, AND IF THE MEMBERS WILL ALL TURN ON THEIR MICROPHONES, PLEASE. AND CHAIR SMITHERS HERE. MR. HERSKOWITZ HERE, MR. CHAPELLIER HERE. MR. HARPER HERE, MR. BRUBAKER HERE. MR. SELLARS HERE. MR. SIEBENALER, MR. PAUL. MISS BOEHNING. I HAVE SIX PRESENT FOR THE NOVEMBER 21ST, 2024 ROCKY FORK BLACKLICK ACCORD MEETING. OKAY, FANTASTIC. THAT MEANS WE 
          [III. Record of Proceedings]
CAN DO BUSINESS TODAY. NEXT THING WE NEED TO DO IS RECEIVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE PREVIOUS HEARING, WHICH WERE SENT TO US IN ADVANCE. MOTION SELLERS SECOND, JAY HERSKOWITZ. 
          OKAY. ROLL CALL AND MR. SELLERS, ABSTAIN. MR. HERSKOWITZ YES. MR. SMITHERS YES. MR. CHAPELLIER. 
          YES. MR. HARPER. YES. MR. BRUBAKER. YES. AND THAT IS EVERYONE. I HAVE FIVE. YES VOTES AND ONE ABSTENTION TO ADOPT THE MINUTES. THE MINUTES ARE ADOPTED. OKAY, FANTASTIC. SO I DON'T BELIEVE THIS IS A PUBLIC FORUM. SO WE CAN GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON FROM THAT. AND WE CAN ALSO ASK IF THERE'S ANY OLD BUSINESS. I WASN'T MADE AWARE OF ANY. I DIDN'T SEE ANY AGENDA. 
          [V. New Business]
VERY GOOD. SO THAT BRINGS US DOWN TO THE TO THE NEW BUSINESS. SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY. 
          SO FIRST OF ALL, GO AHEAD AND LET'S SEE. THIS IS FOR PREMIER STORAGE. AND I DON'T HAVE THE NUMBER RIGHT HERE. IT'S Z 24 O 22 AND CV 2406 FOUR AT 6955 HARLEM ROAD AND WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO IS GO AHEAD AND LET'S SEE THE STAFF. WILL YOU GO AHEAD AND TAKE IT FROM HERE. AND THEN WE'LL WE'LL NEED TO SWEAR YOU GENTLEMEN IN ONCE WE CALL YOU U. GREAT. THANK YOU SO MUCH, MIKE. 
          GO AHEAD. GOOD TO READ. THE STAFF REPORT. OKAY. INTRODUCTIO. PROPOSAL SUMMARY. THE APPLICANT REQUESTED CONCEPTUAL REVIEW OF COLUMBUS APPLICATION Z 2405 NINE. THE SITE CONSISTS OF TWO PARCELS DEVELOPED WITH THE SINGLE FAMILY HOME. THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO REZONE A COMBINED 4.3 ACRE PARCEL FROM RURAL TO LIMITED MANUFACTURING TO ALLOW FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A SELF-STORAGE FACILITY. THE APPLICANT IS COMMITTED TO THE ROCKY FORK BLACKLICK ACCORD COMMUNITY PLAN GUIDELINES AND STANDARDS. STAFF COMMENTS. THE APPLICANT HAS MADE EFFORTS TO COMPLY WITH THE RFP DESIGN STANDARDS, INCORPORATING A SIDEWALK ALONG HARLEM ROAD. 
          PARKING AT THE REAR AND SIDE OF THE BUILDING AND LANDSCAPE ON ALL SIDES. THE PROPOSAL ALSO ALSO INCLUDES THE USE OF FULLY SHIELDED LIGHTING AND INDICATES, EXCUSE ME, THE PRESERVATION OF EXISTING TREES ON THE WEST PROPERTY LINE. MAINTAINING THE CHARACTER OF HARLEM ROAD AND PRESERVATION OF NATURAL RESOURCES ARE KEY ISSUES FOR THIS PARCEL. REGARDLESS OF THE DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL. BASED ON THE RFP RECOMMENDATIONS, STAFF REQUEST THE APPLICANT CONSIDER THE FOLLOWING REVISIONS TO THEIR PROPOSAL. FIRST IS TO EXPLORE OPPORTUNITIES TO ADD STREET TREES ALONG HARLEM ROAD. IN CONSULTATION WITH OUR CITY FORESTER. TO COMPLETELY SCREEN THE REFUSE AREA AND EXPLORE OPPORTUNITIES TO REVISE YOUR ELEVATIONS. TO ALIGN A LITTLE MORE WITH NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER AND RFP ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN GUIDELINES. THOSE THINGS INCLUDE SLOPED OR PITCHED ROOFS, WHICH ARE ENCOURAGED IN THE PLAN. TO MAXIMIZE THE USE OF THE SEE THROUGH GLASS ENCOURAGED ON STREET LEVEL OF THE BUILDINGS. I THINK IT I BELIEVE IT SHOWED TINTED GLASS ON THE ON THE ACTUAL ELEVATIONS. BUILDING MATERIALS SHOULD BE TRADITIONAL AND NATURAL, SUCH AS BRICK, STONE, WOOD AND GLASS AND LASTLY, ARCHITECTURAL MASSING 
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SHOULD BE BROKEN UP TO MAINTAIN A VILLAGE SCALE. THIS IS A CONCEPTUAL VIEW, SO AS SUCH, STAFF IS NOT OFFERING A FORMAL RECOMMENDATION AT THIS TIME. FANTASTIC. SO WE'LL HAVE TO ASK EACH PERSON THAT WILL BE SPEAKING. WE COULD PROBABLY DO THIS ALL TOGETHER JUST TO TAKE AN OATH. IF YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH, SO HELP YOU GOD. ALRIGHT. IN UNISON. FANTASTIC. AND IF YOU COULD, WE'LL JUST LET THE APPLICANT SPEAK. AND JUST FOR THE RECORD, INTRODUCE YOURSELF SO WE CAN CAPTURE THAT IN THE RECORDS. AND THEN AFTER YOU'RE DONE PRESENTING, I'M SURE OUR PANEL WILL HAVE QUESTIONS FOR YOU. 
          SURE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MY NAME IS TOM GUSTAFSON. WE'RE FROM CLEVELAND. THE THREE OF US, THESE ARE MY TWO COLLEAGUES, ROSS FARROW FROM PREMIER DEVELOPMENT IN CLEVELAND, AND MATT DAVIS, WHO'S A COLLEAGUE OF MINE AT COLLIERS. AND I THOUGHT I WOULD JUST INTRODUCE WHAT WE DO. OUR OUR EXPERTISE IN THIS FIELD, WHY THERE'S A DEMAND HERE FOR WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO ON THIS REZONING ON THIS SITE. AND THEN WE CAN GET INTO WE THOUGHT ABOUT THE ITEMS THAT YOU JUST MENTIONED ON BECOMING COMPLIANT WITH YOUR VALUATION CHECKLIST, A COMPLIANCE, PRESUMABLY, IS THE RIGHT WORD FOR THIS. BUT MATT AND I RUN WE'RE PART OF THE NATIONAL SELF-STORAGE INVESTMENT TEAM WITH COLLIERS INTERNATIONAL LARGE REAL ESTATE COMPANY. WE'VE WE'VE TRANSACTED OVER $1 BILLION IN SELF-STORAGE IN ABOUT 22 STATES AROUND THE COUNTRY. SO WE'RE VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE SPACE AND THE DIFFERENT KINDS OF PROPERTIES AND THAT KIND OF THING IN THE SELF STORAGE SPACE. 
          AND WE WERE ASKED, APPROACHED BY OUR LONGTIME RELATIONSHIP FRIENDS AT PREMIER DEVELOPMENT, ROSS FARROW, HERE TO HELP FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW, FIND LET'S FIND SOME GOOD SITES WHERE WE CAN DEVELOP THIS AND IT'S REALLY WITH THE IDEA OF PROVIDING AN AMENITY TO RESIDENTS AND TENANTS IN AREAS YOU KNOW, PARTICULARLY IF YOU GO INTO THE SOUTHERN STATES, YOU'LL SEE PEOPLE PUTTING THEIR RVS OR PUTTING THEIR STUFF OR SHEDS ON THEIR PROPERTIES OUT IN THE FRONT IN SIGHT OF THE PUBLIC ROADS. AND IT HELPS THE CITIES KEEP IT ALL TIDY. ALL OF THOSE THINGS, NOT RVS IN THIS CASE, BUT A LOT OF THEIR STORAGE ACCESSORIES IN UNITS OUT OF THE PUBLIC EYE IN QUALITY. QUALITY, BUILT QUALITY, CONSTRUCTED FACILITIES THAT ARE SAFE, WELL MAINTAINED, WELL LIT AND SERVE AS AN AMENITY FOR THE AREA. SO WHAT WE'VE DONE IS LET ME JUST TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE FIRST BOARD HERE. IT SHOWS THREE CONCENTRIC CIRCLES. THE FIRST ONE, WHICH IS HARD TO SEE, IS A ONE IS A ONE MILE. THEN IT GOES TO THREE MILE RADIUS FROM THE HARLEM SITE 6955. AND THEN THE FIVE MILE. AND SO THIS IS REALLY A DISTRIBUTION OF THE MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENTS IN THAT FIVE MILE RADIUS. THE RED ONES BEING IN THE PIPELINE TO BE BUILT OR THAT HAVE BEEN PERMITTED. THE DARK BLUE ONES ARE ONES THAT EXIST. AND SO IN THAT THREE MILE RADIUS, THERE'S 11,590 APARTMENT OR MULTIFAMILY UNITS IN THOSE AREAS FROM, AGAIN, OUR SITE AND THERE'S SEVERAL MORE IN THE PIPELINE IN THAT MARKET IN THE THREE MILE MARKET, 43% OF THE HOUSEHOLDS ARE ARE RENTERS, AS OPPOSED TO OWNERS OF SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES, APARTMENTS. WHY IS THAT IMPORTANT? THAT'S THE BIGGEST DEMAND GENERATOR FOR SELF-STORAGE ARE RENTERS. THEY DOWNSIZE. THEY HAVE TO RELOCATE FOR ALL KINDS OF PERSONAL REASONS FAMILY REASONS WHY PEOPLE HAVE TO DO THAT. AND SO THEY NEED A PLACE TO STORE THEIR THINGS. SO WHEN YOU GET UP TO A NUMBER LIKE 43%, THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT PART OF THE POPULATION THAT RENT IN, YOU KNOW, MOST PROBABLY SMALLER UNITS. SO WE HAVE THAT WE HAVE THAT ESTABLISHED HERE THE NEXT ONE IS ALSO A ONE MILE, THREE MILE, FIVE MILE DISTRIBUTION. BUT THESE ARE THE SELF-STORAGE PROPERTIES IN THAT ONE, THREE AND FIVE MILE DISTRIBUTION RADIUS. THERE ARE 50,000. WE LOOK AT THE THREE MILE RADIUS NATIONALLY. THAT'S TYPICALLY LOOKED AT BY SELF-STORAGE 
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INVESTORS, DEVELOPERS, OPERATORS, 50,000 IS THE POPULATION IN THAT THREE MILE RADIUS FROM OUR SITE RIGHT HERE, THAT SITE, THE RED ONE THAT'S TO THE RIGHT OF THAT IS THE NEW PROPERTY THAT'S BEING DEVELOPED UP ON WALNUT. IS THAT NEW ALBANY OR IS THAT CLAIM TOWNSHIP? I'M NOT SURE. YEAH. BUT THEN WHEN IT WENT TO THE TOWNSHIP, THERE WERE A LOT OF CHANGES AND STUFF THAT WERE MADE. SO YEAH, I BELIEVE SO, YES. YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND ANOTHER ONE WE DID WE DID AN EXPANSION OF EXISTING 162 OKAY. SO YEAH. SO THE SO THE ONE THAT YOU ALSO KNOW ABOUT IS THE CARDINAL SELF-STORAGE WHICH IS DOWN HERE RIGHT HERE. THIS BLUE ONE ON HAMILTON. AND THAT'S THE MOST RECENTLY COMPLETED ONE THAT THREE STORY CARDINAL WE KNOW COLE ELLIS VERY WELL. AND SO BUT WE HAVE THIS SITE AND IT'S PREFERRED DEVELOPMENT BUILDING 250 TO 300. WE'RE NOT SURE WHAT THE LATEST NUMBER IS. MULTIFAMILY UNITS AROUND THIS SITE. AND SO WE HAVE COME UP WITH A PLAN FOR OUR THE PROPERTY. WE'RE PROPOSING TO BE APPROVED. THAT IS WE THINK IT IS A HIGH QUALITY BUILD AND IS AN AMENITY FOR THE TENANTS AROUND THE AREA. SO JUST TO CONTINUE ON THIS AND THEN I'LL FINISH UP TYPICALLY AROUND THE COUNTRY, THE WHERE DEMAND AND SATURATION AND SUPPLY BECOME AN EQUILIBRIUM IS ABOUT 8.5FT■!S PER CAPITA. SO AT 50,000FT■!S, THE INVENTORY IN THAT THREE MILE RADIUS IS 232,000FT■!S OF EXISTING SELF-STORAGE. SO THAT GIVES YOU A, A SQUARE FOOT PER CAPITA MEASUREMENT OF 4.6FT■!S. THAT'S WELL BELOW THE FIVE AND A OR THE EIGHT AND A HALF RATHER, THAT IS THE NATIONAL AVERAGE. AGAIN, WE'RE SUPPLY AND DEMAND ARE IN EQUILIBRIUM. IF YOU'RE BELOW THAT NUMBER, THERE'S SIGNIFICANT DEMAND. SO YOU CAN SAY FOUR TIMES 50,000 FOR SQUARE FEET PER CAPITA TIMES 50,000 POPULATION. THERE'S A DEMAND FOR 200,000FT■S OF SELF-STORAGE IN THIS THREE MILE RADIUS. SO WE'RE HERE TO BE SUCCESSFUL. WE'RE HERE TO MAKE IT A VERY COMPLEMENTARY PROJECT IN THIS TOWN. IN THIS IN THE CITY OF COLUMBUS. AND SO WE KNOW IT WILL BE SUCCESSFUL BECAUSE THERE'S DEMAND HERE. AND WE'VE WE'VE SHOWN THAT. AND THAT'S ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS WE DO BEFORE WE GET INTO A PROJECT IS TO LOOK AT THESE METRICS. SO ANY MORE MATT OR ROSS ON THAT TOPIC? NO, I MEAN JUST THE POPULATION GROWTH. I MEAN, THESE NUMBERS ARE BASED UPON WHAT THE CURRENT POPULATION IS WHEN ALL THOSE NEW DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE COMING, ALL THOSE NEW APARTMENTS, IT'S JUST GOING TO BE EVEN MORE DEMAND UP THERE. AND WE'RE BUILDING A QUALITY PRODUCT WITH A DRIVE THROUGH LANE. THE UNLOADING WILL BE DONE INSIDE THE BUILDING. WE KNOW THAT THAT'S IMPORTANT. IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR FEMALES, WOMEN. 
          THERE'S A MAJORITY OF YOUR CUSTOMERS ARE WOMEN. AND FOR THEM TO FEEL SAFE, WELL LIT AND A NICE COMMUNITY ABLE TO PULL I, PULL UP TO A UNIT OR UNLOAD AND WALK THROUGH THE BUILDING, IT'S WHAT YOU KNOW, YOU WOULD WANT IN THAT COMMUNITY. AND IT'S WHAT CARDINAL JUST BUILT. THEY BUILT A DRIVE THROUGH FACILITY JUST LIKE THAT. YEAH. AND THAT'S RIGHT. IN SELF STORAGE NATIONALLY, 60% OF THE TENANTS ARE RESIDENTIAL AND 60% OF THOSE TENANTS ARE WOMEN. AND SO DEVELOPERS FROM I'VE BEEN IN THE BUSINESS FOR ABOUT A DOZEN YEARS, AND THEY'VE SAID FROM THE VERY BEGINNING, YOU HAVE TO MAKE IT SECURE, VERY WELL MAINTAINED. WELL LIT TO ACCOMMODATE THAT TENANT. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE. SO GO AHEAD. POINT IS THESE ARE VERY OFTEN USED BY BUSINESS PEOPLE. THE LAST MILE HAS BECOME VERY IMPORTANT FOR DELIVERIES. THIS FACILITY WOULD SERVE FOR PEOPLE IN THAT COMMUNITY THAT RUN BUSINESSES THAT NEED TO STORE STUFF AND TRANSPORT THEM AROUND. THAT LAST MILE. THIS SERVES THAT NEED AS WELL. SO IT'S COVERING RESIDENTS, IT'S COVERING BUSINESSES, AND IT'S A IT'S A NEEDED. IT'S A DEMANDED PROJECT. 
          SO HERE'S THE HERE'S THE BUILDING. IT SITS ON. SO THE WAY THIS IS SET UP RIGHT NOW, THIS IS THIS WHOLE PROPERTY IS TWO PARCELS. WE HAVEN'T APPROACHED ANYBODY YET ON A LOT SPLIT. NOT 
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UNTIL WE GET APPROVAL OR GET JUST BEFORE WE THINK WE'RE GETTING APPROVAL. THERE'S A REMAINDER PIECE FOR OUR SELLER, NORM. NORM AND LOIS SINGER OF ABOUT 1.84 ACRES, WOULD BE LEFT FOR HIM. THE WIDTH OF THIS ALONG HARLEM RIGHT HERE IS THE EXACT WIDTH OF THE SINGLE FAMILY PARCELS ACROSS THE STREET. WHAT WE'VE PUT TOGETHER HERE IS THIS PARCEL. ASSUMING WE CAN DO THE LOT SPLIT HERE, AND THIS WILL BE 4.4 ACRES, AND WE'VE PUT A FOOTPRINT OF ABOUT 57,000FT■!S, GROSS SQUARE FEET FOR THE BUILDING. AND AS MATT MENTIONED, THE WAY AND AGAIN, THIS IS THE SECOND GO ROUND HERE WITH WITH YOUR GROUP. WE'VE WE HAD WHAT A 67% COMPLIANCE INITIALLY WE MADE REVISIONS AND YOUR LAST SCORE WAS ABOUT 84 POINTS. AND SO WE'VE MODIFIED IT TO SHOW THAT WE'VE GOT A DRIVE IN A DRIVE AISLE FROM HARLEM WITH PARKING ALONG THE SIDE TOWARDS THE FRONT. AND PARKING ALONG THE REAR. SCOTT, CAN CAN YOU SEE THIS? OKAY, OKAY. I CAN I HAVE A COPY HERE AS WELL. THANK YOU. OKAY. AND THEN THE DRIVE THROUGH GOES FROM NORTH TO SOUTH THROUGH THE WIDTH OF THE BUILDING. AND ONCE YOU PULL IN, THERE'S A HIGH SPEED ROLL UP DOOR THAT'LL BE RIGHT HERE. YOU CAN PULL IN, THE DOOR WILL CLOSE BEHIND YOU AND YOU HAVE YOU CAN PARK. YOU CAN HAVE ACCESS TO ALL OF THE UNITS. THERE WILL BE TWO ELEVATORS OFF THIS AISLE TO ACCESS FOR TENANTS TO PARK, UNLOAD, ACCESS THE ELEVATORS TO GO UP TO THE SECOND FLOOR. WE ALSO HAVE AN OFFICE AND THERE WILL BE A SET OF BATHROOMS FOR USE BY THE TENANTS AND THE ON SITE MANAGEMENT FOR THEIR USE. SO TYPICALLY YOU WOULD GO THROUGH THE DRIVE THROUGH AND THEN EXIT THE PROPERTY BACK AROUND THAT DRIVE AISLE. WE ALSO HAVE AND WE'LL SEE THAT ON THE ELEVATION WE HAVE PUT IN HERE, OUTDOOR ACCESSIBLE UNITS JUST ALONG THE BACK SIDE ON THE NORTH AND SOUTH FACE OF THE BUILDING. AND THAT IS JUST BECAUSE WE WE'RE OFFERING A DIVERSE TYPE OF UNIT WHERE SOMEBODY WHO DOESN'T NEED TO GO THROUGH THE BUILDING CAN ACCESS THOSE OUTDOOR ACCESSIBLE UNITS. THERE'S ABOUT 27 OF THEM. THOSE ARE VERY DESIRED BY BUSINESS PEOPLE. YEAH. PULL YOUR CAR. RIGHT. OFF LOAD STUFF IN WE GONE. I MEAN, YOU CAN ACCOMPLISH THAT INSIDE TOO. BUT THIS JUST ADDS TO IT. AND THEN WE TRY TO KEEP THE ESTHETIC OF MATCHING THE DOORS TO THE ELEVATION SO THEY WOULDN'T STICK OUT. YEAH, WELL, THE OTHER THE OTHER THING TOO IS, IS WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT HAVE CARS AND THEY WANT TO GET A PLACE TO PARK THEIR CARS. SO WE THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE QUITE A FEW PEOPLE INTERESTED IN THAT INSIDE OR OUT. THEY CAN DO THAT, ESPECIALLY IN THIS COMMUNITY. SO AS YOU WILL SEE, THERE'LL BE A CAR PARKED OUTSIDE. NO, NO, IN THOSE UNITS, THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE 3 OR 4 CARS AND THEY NEED TO FIND A GARAGE FOR THEM. THIS IS THE PERFECT PLACE FOR SOMETHING. YEAH. THESE PARKING SPACES HERE ARE ONLY FOR THOSE WHO WISH TO PARK AND JUST WALK THROUGH ONE OF THE MAIN DOORS THAT WE HAVE ALONG THE SIDES OF THE BUILDING, AND THEY WOULD JUST CARRY THEIR BELONGINGS FROM THE CAR THROUGH THE MAIN DOORS TO AN ELEVATOR. AND IN THERE, NO ONE IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET THROUGH THE MAIN DOORS OR THIS ROLL UP, DRIVE THROUGH DOOR WITHOUT KNOWING THE KEYPAD CODE TO GET IN WHICH EVERY TENANT IS ASSIGNED. WHEN THEY SIGN A LEAS. 
          SO WE HAVE WE HAVE A LANDSCAPE PLAN UP FRONT. I THOUGHT WE WOULD DO IS JUST HERE'S THE LANDSCAPE PLAN. IT'S ALL BEEN NOTED. THE TYPES OF PLANTS AND WE ALSO HAVE NOTED ON A PLAN A SPLIT RAIL FENCE IN THE FRONT. AND WE HAVE TREES THAT WILL BE PLANTED ALONG THE NORTH AND THE SOUTH SIDE AS WELL. I THINK IT WAS IMPORTANT IN NOTING THAT YOU GUYS WANTED AS MANY TREES KEPT AS POSSIBLE. MOST OF THOSE TREES ARE GOING TO STAY JUST A FEW WHERE THE BUILDING, BUT THERE'S ONLY JUST A FEW SCATTERED TREES WHERE THE BUILDING IS. MOST OF THE PERIMETER IS THE EXISTING FOREST. ONE OTHER THING I JUST WHERE WE INTRODUCED ROSS AND YOU CAN TALK ABOUT PREMIER. I THINK 
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THE IMPORTANT THING ABOUT THESE FACILITIES IS THEY'RE VERY MR. DAVIS, IF YOU'LL GRAB THE MICROPHONE, PLEASE. YES. FOR THE RECORDING. THANK YOU. THESE SELF STORAGE FACILITIES ARE THEY USE VERY LITTLE OF THE CITY SERVICE. THERE ARE NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE ON SITE. AT CERTAIN TIMES YOU MAY HAVE 1 OR 2 CARS COMING. IT'S A USE THAT WOULD FIT RIGHT IN WITH, YOU KNOW, THE EXISTING MULTIFAMILY AROUND. BUT THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE A LOT OF TAX ON YOUR CITY SERVICES. THESE FACILITIES OPERATE ON THEIR OWN. THEY PEOPLE DON'T ARE AREN'T ENCOURAGED TO STAY. THEY COME, THEY GO, THEY DROP THEIR STUFF OFF. AND THAT'S WHY I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A GOOD PROJECT FOR THE CITY, FOR HOW IT'S GOING TO HELP THEM. IF YOU IF YOU DON'T MIND. YEAH. THE THINGS ARE BEING RECORDED. SO THAT JUST HELPS. WE CAN HEAR YOU, BUT WE NEED EVERYONE JUST ON THAT POINT. 
          PREFERRED DEVELOPMENT GOING IN AROUND THIS SITE WITH ALL OF THEIR UNITS. THIS IS GOING TO HELP THEM LEASE UP THEIR UNITS BECAUSE TENANTS WILL SEE THERE'S SELF STORAGE RIGHT NEXT DOOR. SO THAT'S GOING TO BE THAT JUST BUILDS ON ON THAT POINT. ROSS. MY NAME IS ROSS FARROW AND I AM THE CO-FOUNDER OF PREMIER DEVELOPMENT PROPERTIES. JUST A LITTLE QUICK BACKGROUND. IN THE LATE 80S AND 90S, I WAS AN ACTIVE DEVELOPER IN THE GREATER CLEVELAND AREA, AND I WAS APPROACHED BY DUKE REALTY, WHICH I'M SURE SOME OF YOU KNOW WHO THEY ARE. AND IN ORDER TO THEM TO COME INTO CLEVELAND, THEY WANTED TO BUY A LARGE PORTFOLIO. SO I SOLD THEM UNDER 1,000,000FT■!S. BUT MY DEAL WASI HAD TO STICK AROUND FOR FIVE YEARS TO RUN THE OPERATION FOR THEM. AND MY OTHER PARTNER, WHO'S NOT HERE WITH A CO-FOUNDING PARTNER, SPENCER PESEK. WE WERE RUNNING THE OFFICES FOR DUKE. AND DURING THAT PERIOD OF TIME WE WERE RUNNING IT. AND THEN DUKE LEFT CLEVELAND IN 2006. SO THEY WERE THERE TEN YEARS AND THEY SOLD THEIR WHOLE PORTFOLIO TO ANOTHER GROUP. SPENCER AND I HAD HAD DEVELOPED OVER 1,000,000.5FT■!SF NEW OFFICE SPACE AND 4,000,000FT■!S OF INDUSTRIAL SPACE. SO WE DEVELOPED QUITE A BIT. WHEN DUKE LEFT CLEVELAND, WE ENDED UP BUYING THEIR LAND AND WE STARTED DEVELOPING OUR OWN INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS IN THE IN THE GREATER CLEVELAND AREA. SO WE HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE IN THIS AREA. AND, YOU KNOW, A SELF-STORAGE IS SIMILAR TO A INDUSTRIAL BUILDING. SO WE UNDERSTAND IT. AND WHEN I WANTED TO GET INVOLVED, I WANTED TO MAKE TO DEVELOP A BUILDING THAT DIDN'T LOOK LIKE A SELF-STORAGE BUILDING, AND I WANTED EVERYTHING INSIDE THE BUILDING. 
          SO IF SOMEONE WAS COMING AND DROPPING OFF SOMETHING, THEY DRIVE RIGHT INSIDE THE BUILDING. 
          SO NO MATTER WHAT THE WEATHER IS LIKE OR WHAT TIME OF DAY IT'S SAFE. AND WE WANTED TO HAVE THAT ABILITY. SO YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SEE MUCH ACTIVITY AT THE FACILITY. AND AS YOU KNOW, THAT SURROUNDS US IS NOTHING BUT NEW APARTMENTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE GOING UP. SO WE WANTED TO DO SOMETHING THAT WAS ATTRACTIVE. SO IF YOU LOOK AT THIS BUILDING, I WANTED IT TO LOOK LIKE AN OFFICE BUILDING, NOT AN INDUSTRIAL BUILDING OR A SELF-STORAGE BUILDING. SO THIS IS GOING TO BE YOUR FRONTAGE FACING OUT. AND THEN WE DID. WE HIRED A LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT. AND WHEN I STARTED, WE REALLY WANT TO DO SOMETHING REALLY NICE IN THE FRONT. SO WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING BY THIS BUILDING YOU'RE GOING TO SEE A BEAUTIFUL BUILDING. WE'LL HAVE THE WHITE FENCES UP IN FRONT AND IT WOULD REALLY SHOW OFF REALLY, REALLY WELL. SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO US THAT WHAT WE BUILD IS QUALITY. WHEN WE BROKE AWAY, WE ACTUALLY WHEN DUKE LEFT, WE DEVELOPED SEVERAL MILLION SQUARE FEET OURSELVES IN THE GREATER CLEVELAND AND OUTSIDE OF THE CLEVELAND MARKET. SO WE ARE ACTIVE DEVELOPERS IN THE GREATER CLEVELAND AREA AND OUTSIDE OF CLEVELAND. THE. SO THESE ARE THIS IS THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING HERE. THE ONE SIDE. SO YOUR MAIN OFFICE IS UP FRONT HERE. YOU DRIVE AROUND HERE YOU CAN DRIVE YOUR CAR IN THE SIDE AREA HERE IF YOU WANT. AND THEN THIS IS THE DRIVE THAT GOES ALL THE WAY THROUGH TO THE OTHER END. SO IT'S REALLY VERY SAFE. AND VERY CONVENIENT. AND THE ACCESSIBILITY IS GREAT. AND THEN FROM THE OUTSIDE, IF YOU DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS A SELF-STORAGE, YOU JUST WOULDN'T KNOW IT. IT'S NOT 
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THAT WAY. AND A LOT OF SELF-STORAGE ARE PUBLICLY TRADED COMPANIES AND THEY'RE ORANGE. 
          THEY'RE GREEN, THEY'RE RED. AND WE DIDN'T WANT THAT. WE WANTED SOMETHING THAT WAS GOING TO REALLY PRESENT A FIRST CLASS BUILDING. SO WE FEEL THAT THIS CONCEPT HERE WILL BE RECEIVED VERY, VERY WELL. AND WE THINK THE PEOPLE WOULD FEEL VERY COMFORTABLE KNOWING THAT THEY'RE COMING HERE. THAT'S WHERE THEY GO. AND I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A GREAT FOR THE CITIES THAT ARE GOING TO BENEFIT, BECAUSE A LOT OF THE CITIES DON'T HAVE ENOUGH SELF STORAGE. SO YOUR CITIZENS GOT TO DRIVE THREE MILES, FIVE MILES. IF THEY NEED A SELF STORAGE AREA. SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR HERE TO ANSWER ANY PACKAGES, I GAVE YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT PREMIER DEVELOPMENT AND ALSO YOU HAVE COPIES OF THE RENDERINGS I DID THAT ALSO. OKAY. SO THANK YOU. WE'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION AND QUESTIONS FROM THE PANEL. I'LL START OFF I GOT A COUPLE QUESTIONS. SO AGAIN THIS IS TWO LOTS. BASICALLY I WISH A LOT OF TIMES WE DO HAVE VISUALS ON THESE BOARDS OF THE OF THE OF THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES AND SO ON. AND SO FORTH. BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTOOD THIS IS TWO PIECES OF PROPERTY AND YOU'RE TAKING YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE THE ONE PIECE, THE PARCEL AND DO A LOT SPLIT. AND THEN THERE'S THE GENTLEMAN THAT OWNS THESE PROPERTIES IS GOING TO STAY ON THE ONE PIECE. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? YEAH. SO YES THERE ARE TWO PARCELS HERE THAT ARE OWNED BY THE SAME GENTLEMAN. 
          AND THE NORTHERN PARCEL IS THIS THE SOUTHERN PARCEL. IS THAT RIGHT. SO WE'VE NEGOTIATED AN AGREEMENT WITH HIM THAT WE WOULD TAKE THE REMAINDER OF THE SOUTHERN PARCEL THAT HE OWNS, AND A PORTION OF THE NORTHERN PARCEL, LEAVING HIM THE 1.84 ACRES TO THE AT THE NORTH. AS YOU KNOW, HE OWNED FURTHER BACK. AND THAT'S BEEN ACQUIRED BY PREFERRED DEVELOPMENT. OKAY. AND THAT'S FINISHED. AND THEY CAME IN AND EFFECTIVE OCTOBER 16TH, WERE ABLE TO SUCCESSFULLY GET THIS ALL THE ONE PLAIN TOWNSHIP PARCEL ANNEXED INTO THE CITY OF COLUMBUS. SO THEY'RE BOTH CITY OF COLUMBUS, RIGHT? YEAH. SO IS HE PLANNING TO LIVE ON THAT PIECE? NO, HE DOESN'T LIVE THERE. HE'S GOT HE CALLS IT HIS MAN LAND. HE'S GOT A POLE BARN THERE. OKAY. IT'S KIND OF A HOBBY BARN THERE ISN'T. THERE AREN'T ANY HOUSES ON IT. THERE'S NO THERE'S NO HOUSE HERE. 
          THERE'S A RENTAL HOUSE THAT HE OWNS HERE WHICH WOULD BE END UP BEING RAISED. SO THE IDEA IS HE WANTED TO HE WANTED TO KEEP THE PARCEL, THIS NORTHERN PARCEL, AND REMAIN THERE. HE CALLS IT HIS MAN LAND. BUT WHAT WE TOLD HIM IS THIS NEEDS TO BE AN APPROPRIATE SIZE. AND WHAT WE KNOW IS THAT IS A GOOD COMMERCIAL PIECE OF PROPERTY FOR A SMALL BANK, AN OFFICE, A VET, WHATEVER, THAT COULD SERVICE THESE RIGHT UP HERE. YOU WERE ASKING ABOUT WHAT'S IN THE PERIMETER, RIGHT? RIGHT. NEW DEVELOPMENT. AND THEN RIGHT DOWN HERE IS ALL NEW APARTMENTS BEING DEVELOPED. AND THEN THIS BACK LAND IS APARTMENTS AS WELL. RIGHT BEHIND THERE. YEAH, THAT'S USUALLY WHERE WE HAVE A VISUAL OF ALL THE SURROUNDING PIECES. I THINK SHELLEY HAD THAT AT THE LAST MEETING AND MAYBE, YOU KNOW, SHE WAS PUTTING STUFF ON THE SCREEN. RIGHT. WE THOUGHT THAT THAT WOULD BE A CENTRAL PARK JUST SOUTH OF THERE. YEAH, YEAH. CENTRAL COLLEGE ROAD. YES. 
          THAT'S RIGHT. THIS IS ABOUT 1000FT NORTH OF THAT INTERSECTION. WE HAVE A PAPER COPY OF THE PARCELS IF YOU WANT. WE CAN PASS THAT AROUND. IF YOU'D LIKE. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT. OH, SURE. AND THEN THERE'S THIS IS. SOME OF THE APARTMENTS WILL CREATE A U-SHAPE AROUND OUR BUILDING. AND THIS IS RESIDENTIAL HERE. OKAY. YEAH. SO? SO. OKAY, LET'S SEE. YEAH. I THINK OUR CONCERN IS IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF RESIDENTIAL THAT HAS THE OUTLINE OF THE BUILDING AND THE PARCELS. THE WAY WE DIVIDED IT WITH THE SURROUNDING PARCELS. AS MR., WIE REMAINDER PARCEL TO THE NORTH. WELL, THE ISSUE I ONE OF MY ISSUES IS OBVIOUSLY IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF RESIDENTIAL SURROUNDING THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY AND OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE BUILDING A TWO AND A HALF STORY PLUS BUILDING ON THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY, A TWO STORY, 
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TWO STORY AND, AND OBVIOUSLY IT'S A LARGE GOING TO BE A LARGE BUILDING AND I THINK ORIGINALLY IT WAS THIS AREA WAS IT THERE WERE THREE, 3 OR 4 HOMES. IT WAS RURAL. BUT BUT THERE'S ALSO AN OVERLYING. OF WHAT WHAT TO BE DEVELOPED OR YOU KNOW. YEAH. OH YOU MEAN IN THE ROCKY FORK. 
          RIGHT, RIGHT. AND THAT WAS, THAT WAS NOT. WHAT WAS THAT? PROBABLY A RESIDENTIAL, I ASSUME. YEAH. 
          WELL, WHEN WE SAW IT, IT HAD BEEN RESIDENTIAL. AND THEN IT WAS TAKEN INTO THE CITY OF COLUMBUS. IT HAD BEEN KANE TOWNSHIP ORIGINALLY. CORRECT. AND THEN THEY TOOK IT INTO CITY OF COLUMBUS, AT WHICH POINT WE DIDN'T HAVE AS MUCH SAY AS TO WHAT WAS GOING ON. SO ACROSS THE STREET IS PLANNING TOWNSHIP. ACROSS THE STREET IS STILL THERE'S A STRIP STILL THERE. 
          IT'S PLAIN TOWNSHIP, OKAY. THEY'RE SMALLER, OLDER HOMES. I'M GOING TO SAY THERE'S ABOUT SEVEN HOMES IN IN THE STRIP THERE. AND THOSE ARE ALL LOTS, MR. DAVIS. THE REMAINDER LAND RECORDING, PLEASE. YEAH, THOSE ARE ALL LOTS THE SAME SIZE ACROSS THE STREET AS THE REMAINDER LOT THAT THAT WE'RE LEAVING, WHICH ARE ALL COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT SITES. SO YOU FEEL THAT THERE WILL BE DEVELOPED COMMERCIALLY? WELL, POSSIBLY, BUT THE WAY WE LOOK AT THIS IS WE'RE COMING IN TO PROVIDE AN AMENITY TO ALL OF THAT RESIDENTIAL, WHETHER YOU'RE IN SINGLE FAMILY OR MULTI-FAMILY. THAT'S REALLY THE WAY WE LOOK AT THIS. OKAY. AND RIGHT NOW THERE IS A MULTIFAMILY TO THE TO THIS WEST, TO THE NORTH TO THE IT'LL BE TO THE WEST AND TO THE SOUTH. AND THEN YOU HAVE ZERO LOT LINE. I'M GOING TO SAY HOMER HOME HOA TYPE TOWNHOMES TO THE NORTH CLUSTER HOMES FOR I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RIGHT TERM IS FOR ALL OF THAT. I BELIEVE THAT I BELIEVE THOSE ARE DETACHED CLUSTERS. YEAH. SO OUR OUR ISSUE IS OBVIOUSLY THAT, YOU KNOW, THE IS THE, THE PEOPLE THAT BACK UP TO YOUR BUILDING ARE NOT, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES NOT HAPPY WITH THAT WITH BACKING UP TO A TWO STORY BIG BUILDING, YOU KNOW, RESIDENTIAL. YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING. YEAH. WELL THAT'S WHY WE HAVE ATTEMPTED TO MAKE THE, THE EXTERIOR CONFORM AS CLOSELY AS WE COULD WITH THE SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL SHIELDING. THE LIGHTING. THERE'S A PHOTOMETRIC LIGHTING PLAN THAT WE'VE ALSO SUBMITTED SHOWING THAT ONCE YOU GET BEYOND THE PERIMETER FOR THOSE DARKER HOURS, THERE'S REALLY NO LUMEN IMPACT ON THE SURROUNDING RESIDENTS. ALSO, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED TO THE OWNER OWNERS AT THE CORNER OF THAT WOULD BE THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF HARLEM AND CENTRAL COLLEGE, AND THEY'VE BEEN APPROACHED BY MULTITUDE OF DEVELOPERS. AND IT'S ONLY A MATTER OF TIME. THEY KNOW THAT YOU WILL SOON BE TALKING WITH COMMERCIAL DEVELOPERS THERE. SO JUST BRINGING THAT TO THE FOREFRONT, IT'S A CHANGING AREA. 
          YEAH, I AGREE, THE GROUP THAT APPROACHED HIM HAD TALKED TO ALL THE LANDOWNERS GOING DOWN 4 OR 5 ABOUT DOING APARTMENTS, AND THAT WAS THE TALK. I DON'T KNOW THE NAME OF THE COMPANY, BUT THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO. SURE. SO EVENTUALLY THAT COULD BE NOTHING. BUT APARTMENTS ALL IN THAT AREA. THERE. AND I DO KNOW, YOU KNOW, IN OUR PREVIOUS WHEN WE LOOKED AT SIMILAR PROJECTS AND SO FORTH, YOU KNOW, THERE ISN'T A NEED FOR A TRAFFIC STUDY BECAUSE THERE ISN'T. YOU KNOW, EVEN THOUGH YOU'RE BUILDING A LARGE BUILDING, THERE ISN'T A LOT OF TRAFFIC FLOW. AND THERE IS. AND YOU HAVE AGREED TO THE SINGLE ENTRY INTO THE INTO HARLEM ROAD AND SO FORTH. SO THAT'S GOOD. SO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? YEAH, I THINK I WAS JUST GOING TO QUICKLY SAY, IF YOU THINK ABOUT THE ALTERNATIVE USES, COMMERCIAL USES AND YOU BROUGHT YOUR YOU WERE GOING RIGHT THERE IS THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT THEY'RE GOING TO GENERATE AND THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS. AND LIKE MATT WAS SAYING EARLIER, THE PARKING, THE CARS, THE TRAFFIC IN AND OUT OF HERE IS ABSOLUTELY MINIMAL. YEAH. EXCUSE ME, YOU WERE RAISING YOUR QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. I SEE MOUNDING IN THE RURAL SETBACK. IS THAT PERMITTE? YES, I BELIEVE IF I BELIEVE THE PLAN SAYS THAT IF THERE IS A REDUCED SETBACK, THEN SOME REMEDY WOULD HAVE TO BE. AND SO 
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I SAW 95 VERSUS THE 100. IS THAT WHAT I SAW? IS THAT, IS THAT A 95 FOOT SETBACK. NO. RIGHT UP HERE IN HERE I SAW IN ONE OF THESE EXHIBITS, 95 FOOT, 50 FOOT. YEAH. I THOUGHT IT WAS RIGHT RIGHT HERE, 100 FOOT. SO I SEE A 95. SO DOES THAT REQUIRE A VARIANCE? OR SO I THINK. LET ME DOUBLE CHECK. HERE'S 50 FOOT BUILDING AND PARKING. WELL YEAH UP HERE. BUT I'M NOT SURE WHAT IT'S EXPLAIN THAT 95 FOOT ON THE NORTHERN. WE WERE TOLD IT WAS 50FT FROM THE MINOR ARTERIAL RIGHT OF WAY, 50FT. THAT'S WHAT WE WERE TOLD. AND THAT'S WHAT OUR ARCHITECT HAS PRESENTED HERE. THAT'S CORRECT. THIS IS THIS IS THE MINOR. YEAH. THIS IS THE 50. IS THAT CORRECT? IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE 5050. YEP. YES. SORRY. I GOT THE ROAD TYPE CONFUSED. AND IF WE HAD TO, WE CAN MOVE THE BUILDING BACK. IT'S NOT A PROBLEM. WE HAVE PLENTY OF ROOM IN THE BACK. RIGHT. SO QUESTION NUMBER TWO. WHAT ABOUT STORMWATER MANAGEMENT. WHERE'S YOUR BASIN GOING TO GO. WHERE ARE YOU DOING UNDERGROUND I DON'T KNOW. NO. OUR WE'RE TYING INTO THE CITY STORM SEWER IS MY UNDERSTANDING. YOU MIGHT HAVE TO HIRE A LOCAL ENGINEERING FIRM TO FIGURE ALL THAT OUT. WHATEVER THE CITY WANTS, IF THERE'S A RETENTION BASIN, WE WILL PUT IT IN. IT'S NOT A PROBLEM AT ALL. 
          WE WOULD JUST HAND THE IMPRESSION WE DIDN'T HAVE TO DO IT. BUT IF WE DON'T HAVE TO DO IT, IF WE HAVE TO DO IT, WE WILL DO IT. IT'S NOT A IT'S NOT A PROBLEM. I WAS JUST GOING TO MAKE A QUICK NOTE THAT THE DEVELOPMENT DIRECTLY TO THE WEST, I BELIEVE, HAS A INCLUDED BASIN THAT COUNTED FOR THIS SIT. I THE SITES ARE ADJACENT TO EACH OTHER. SO JUST TO NOTE, I DON'T I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WOULD WORK. WE'VE SEEN A BIG DRAWING OF THAT BACK WHERE THEY HAVE A HUGE BASIN BACK THERE, AND I THINK THAT WAS PART OF THE REQUIREMENT. BUT AS ROSS SAID, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER YOU GUYS REQUIRE, WE CAN DO. AND THE THIRD THING, WILL THERE BE A CARETAKER LIVING ON SITE? NO, NO ONE LIVING ON SITE. THERE'S OUR NORMAL BUSINESS HOURS THERE. 
          THERE WILL BE ON SITE MANAGERS AND THEN THE PROPERTY'S CLOSED. YOU CAN'T ACCESS IT AFTER 10:00 AT NIGHT. NO, NO. ON SUNDAYS. SUNDAYS, SUNDAYS WILL HAVE THE SAME OPERATING HOURS. WE HAVEN'T NAILED IT DOWN, BUT AGAIN, IF THE CITY HAS A REQUEST ON THAT CITY OF COLUMBUS, WE'RE HAPPY TO CONFORM. BUT OUR, YOU KNOW, WE'LL BE EITHER 6 A.M. TO 10 P.M. THAT'S APPROXIMATELY. 
          AGAIN, WE HAVEN'T FINALIZED THAT. BUT AGAIN, WHATEVER THE CITY IS LOOKING FOR ON THAT. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I HAVE JUST ONE QUESTION. STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS SEEM TO BE IMPACTFUL TO THE DESIGN. HAVE YOU GIVEN ANY CONSIDERATION TO HOW YOU WOULD ACCOMMODATE THOSE? ARE YOU ARE YOU MENTIONING THE FOUR THINGS THAT WERE MENTIONED AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING? THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. SO I SAW SOME I HEARD PITCHED ROOFS. I HEARD SEE THROUGH VERSUS TINTED GLASS. I HEARD BUILDING MATERIALS THAT INCLUDED BRICK AND STONE, SOME NATURAL MATERIA. 
          YEAH. THE WELL, THE NEIGHBORHOOD VILLAGE APPEAL INCLUDED TREES OUT, OUT TOWARDS THE FRONT. SO I WILL LET ROSS SPEAK TO THAT. THOSE FOUR ITEMS ON WHAT WE ON WHAT WE WERE WILLING PITCHED ROOFS. LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT VERSUS A FLAT ROOF. WELL, WE'VE NEVER DONE A PITCHED ROOF FOR AN INDUSTRIAL BUILDING OR A BUILDING THAT LOOKS SIMILAR TO AN INDUSTRIAL BUILDING, AND IT WOULD NOT FIT IN WITH THE DESIGN THAT WE HAVE HERE. AND THERE'S NO BENEFIT TO THE TO THE PITCHED ROOF FOR AN INDUSTRIAL TYPE BUILDING OR STORAGE BUILDING. SO IN TERMS OF OKAY, AND THEN THE SEE THROUGH VERSUS THE TINTED GLASS, WELL THE GLASS IS GOING TO BE REFLECTIVE. YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO SEE INTO THE INTO THE BUILDING. IT'LL BE A REFLECTIVE SPANDRELS THAT WILL BE THE SAME COLOR AS THE GLASS. BUT YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO SEE INTO THE BUILDING AT ALL. WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP THIS AS PRIVATE AS POSSIBLE, AS OPPOSED TO YOU'RE GOING BY AND YOU SEE VARIOUS 
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THINGS IN THE BUILDING. THIS IS NOT A TYPICAL PUBLIC STORAGE BUILDING. AS A MATTER OF FACT, ONE OF THE GROUPS WE TALKED TO, THEY LIKED THE IDEA OF HAVING A DRIVE THROUGH, GOING THROUGH. 
          THAT'S NOT THE WAY THEY THEY WOULD PREFER BECAUSE IT'S INEFFICIENT FOR THEM. TO ME, IT'S A BENEFIT TO THE CUSTOMER. AND IF I CAN MAKE THAT CUSTOMER HAPPY, HE'S GOING TO STAY AT MY PLACE. HE'S NOT GOING ANYWHERE. AND I THINK THE SAFETY FACTOR IS SO IMPORTANT, ESPECIALLY I THINK YOU SAID 50% OF ALL THE PEOPLE THAT GO THERE ARE WOMEN. SO WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE IT AS AS SECURITY, AS, AS AS GOOD AS WE CAN. WELL, WELL, YOU MENTIONED WEATHER TOO. I MEAN IT'S PARDON ME WEATHER. YEAH. AND THE WEATHER. YEAH. YEAH. IF IT'S TOO HOT, IT'S TOO COLD. IT'S RAINING LIKE TODAY. IT'S NOT REALLY VERY, VERY PLEASANT. AND MOST PEOPLE WON'T DO THAT BECAUSE THEY WANT IT TO BE CONVENIENT. THE COMPANIES THAT ARE MANAGING THESE BUILDINGS, THEY WANT TO MAKE IT SIMPLE. ONE OF THE COMPANIES WE TALKED TO THAT WANTED TO MANAGE IT, THEY SAID, IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO A DRIVE THROUGH, WE WON'T MANAGE YOUR BUILDING FOR YOU. THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT. AND I CAN MENTION THE NAME AND YOU KNOW WHO IT IS. AND WE SAID, FINE, WE'RE NOT USING YOU. WE'RE MORE CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT WE WANT TO DO FOR THE CUSTOMER THAN IT'S GOING TO BE CONVENIENT FOR YOU, BECAUSE YOU GET A MANAGEMENT FEE AND YOU'RE TRYING TO KEEP YOUR COSTS DOWN. 
          SO HOW DO YOU DO IT? SO IT'S YOU SAY YOU HAVE HOURS. BASICALLY PEOPLE HAVE ACCESS TO A CHEAT CODE OR WHATEVER, RIGHT? IT JUST DOESN'T WORK. YOU KNOW, PEOPLE CAN THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE A GATE TO GET INTO THE FACILITY. PEOPLE JUST WON'T BE ABLE TO GET IN THERE. NO. SO PEOPLE THAT HAVE THE EXTERIOR DOORS, THEY COULD HAVE ACCESS TO. YEAH. THEIR PRODUCT. NO. OUR PLAN IS TO HAVE A SECURED GATE AT THE ENTRANCE. SO YOU PULL IN, THERE WILL BE A GATE. YOU'VE GOT A KEYPAD TO GET THROUGH THERE. GOTTA KEEP THAT GATE. YEAH, THROUGH THE GATE. AND THEN THE KEYPAD TO GET INTO THE DRIVE THROUGH. THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. SO IT WILL BE. IT WILL BE CLOSED. YEAH, MAN, YOU GOT TO TALK OUT OF HERE. YES. AND JUST TO ADDRESS MR. HARPER'S ADDITIONAL TWO EXTRA POINTS HERE, AND I'LL SKIP TO THE FOURTH ONE THAT WAS MENTIONED, THE VILLAGE APPEAL. SO WE HAVE THAT THREE RAIL WHITE SPLIT RAIL FENCE ALONG THE FRONT. THAT'S ON THE PLAN IN TERMS OF DECIDUOUS TREES OUT AT THE STREET. WE THINK THAT OCCLUDES A GOOD VISUAL OF THE BUILDING AND OUR ABILITY TO FOR SOMEONE TO SEE. I MEAN, THAT'S WHY YOU MAKE THE BUILDING ATTRACTIVE WITH GOOD STREET AND CURB APPEAL. BUT IF YOU'RE GOING TO HIDE THAT WITH DECIDUOUS TREES, IT CONFLICTS WITH WITH WHAT THE INTENT IS HERE. IF YOU LOOK AT THE LANDSCAPE PLAN, WE DO HAVE TREES PLANNED ON THAT, AND THERE'S SOME EXISTING TREES. THERE ARE. 
          AND THEY'RE SHOWN ON HERE THAT THAT WILL BE RETAINED IN TERMS OF THE BUILDING MATERIALS, USING NATURAL MATERIALS, BUILDING STONE OR BRICK AND STONE AND SO FORTH. YOU KNOW, WE THIS IS GOING TO BE A HIGH QUALITY PRECAST PANEL FROM THE FOOT TO THE TO THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING, WHICH, BY THE WAY, WE HAVE AT 31FT. AND THAT WILL FIT. WE DON'T SEE THOSE NATURAL MATERIALS WORKING WITH THE WITH THE PRECAST LOOK THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. YEAH. I THINK WHERE YOU WERE GOING WITH IT IS IF THOSE ARE I WON'T SAY NONSTARTERS FOR STAFF. RIGHT. 
          BUT IF THEY NEED TO BE ADDRESSED IN SOME WAY OR FASHION. YEAH, I KNOW THEY'RE NOT OFFERING A RECORD OR AN OPINION ON THIS, RIGHT. BUT IT'S JUST A MATTER OF HOW THOSE FACTOR INTO THAT OPINION. RIGHT. OKAY. GREAT. OKAY. I HAVE I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS. YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT. ONE OF THE PURPOSES FOR THIS BUILDING IS BUSINESSES WITHIN A MILE RADIUS WOULD BE WANTING TO USE THE PERIMETER THINGS. AND EVERYTHING. APPROXIMATELY HOW MANY BUSINESSES ARE WITHIN THAT ONE MILE RADIUS NOW? YOU KNOW, THAT IS NOT THE PRIMARY DEMAND OR EVEN SECONDARY DEMAND DRIVER FOR TENANTS. SO HAVE WE CONSIDERED THAT AS ONE OF THE PRIMARY WAYS TO FILL THE BUILDING? NO. OKAY. YEAH. JUST THE OTHER THING ALONG THOSE LINES, YOU WERE YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE AREA AND EVERYTHING. THE YOU KEEP TALKING ABOUT THE CITY, THE CITY OF THE CITY. WELL, THIS PANEL IS A REVIEW. THREE ARE FROM COLUMBUS, THREE ARE FROM NEW ALBANY AND THREE ARE FROM PLAIN TOWNSHIP. AND SO WHEN WE FIRST STARTED THE ROCKY FORK BLACKLICK ACCORD, 
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EVERYTHING IN OUR AREA WAS SUPPOSED TO BE KIND OF ONE, ONE VISUAL SO THAT AS YOU DROVE FROM ONE TO THE OTHER, YOU REALLY DIDN'T KNOW YOU WERE GOING FROM ONE ENTITY TO ANOTHER. AND THE LAST FEW YEARS WE'VE BEEN GETTING MORE AND MORE AS COLUMBUS HAS BEEN TAKING OVER MORE AND MORE OF THE TOWNSHIP, WANTING VARIANCES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, AND THAT THE APARTMENTS JUST TO THE SOUTH, WHICH I THINK WAS OUR LAST MEETING, WE ACTUALLY HAD THAT. 
          WE VOTED ON THE MINUTES TODAY. THE THOSE 3 OR 4 HOMES THERE SOLD THEIR PROPERTIES FOR THE APARTMENTS. AND THE FIRST THING THAT THEY DID WAS GET A 25 FOOT VARIANCE. AND I HAD PROBLEMS WITH THAT AT THE TIME, AND I GUESS I STILL DO. BUT I DIDN'T. I WAS OUTNUMBERED ON THAT PART, BUT IF YOU LOOK ACROSS THE STREET AT THE MI HOMES THAT ARE NOW FINISHED, HOW FAR THEY'RE SET, BACK OFF THE ROAD AND THE ONES JUST OPPOSITE ON THE WEST SIDE, HOW FAR THEY'RE SET BACK. 
          THAT'S WHAT ROCKY FORK ORIGINALLY WAS REQUIRING FOR THAT AREA. BUT AS COLUMBUS KEPT GETTING CLOSER AND ASKING FOR MORE VARIANCES AND THE REASON THEY GOT THE 25 FOOT WAS THEY USED WELL IN CLOSE PROXIMITY, WHICH WAS DOWN NEW ALBANY ROAD, WEST, WHERE THEY PUT IN THE APARTMENTS AND THE GOAT AND ALL THOSE PLACES DOWN THERE. THEY HAD THE VARIANCES FOR THAT. SO THEY USED THAT AS THE LOGIC THAT THEY SHOULD GET THEIR APARTMENT BUILDINGS BROUGHT UP CLOSE TO THE ROAD. SO I THINK YOUR PRODUCT IS A GREAT PRODUCT FROM, FROM WHAT I'M SEEING, I DON'T SEE HOW IT FITS INTO THAT QUOTE UNQUOTE RURAL AREA. FEEL THAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE YOU MENTIONED POSSIBLY THE LOT RIGHT NEXT TO IT COULD BE SOLD FOR A BANK. WELL, HOW OFTEN DO YOU SEE A BANK SITTING OUT IN THE COUNTRY? I MEAN, BOOM, HERE'S A HERE'S A COMMERCIAL BUILDING THERE. THERE ARE A COUPLE OF COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS DOWN AT HARLEM AND WALNUT, AND THERE'S A WEDDING VENUE ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE ROAD. BUT IT'S BACK PROBABLY MORE THAN 700FT OFF THE ROAD. AND YOU DON'T EVEN SEE IT IF YOU'RE DRIVING PAST, OTHER THAN THE SIGN SITS OUT FRONT. 
          NOW, THAT'S NOT TO SAY THAT THAT WHOLE AREA MIGHT DO SOMETHING ELSE, BUT THESE OTHER PEOPLE THAT HAD TO DO THE SETBACK, THEY GAVE UP A LOT OF THEIR LAND. AND I THOUGHT DIFFERENT TIMES, I'M SURPRISED THEY DON'T COME AND ASK FOR A VARIANCE BECAUSE THERE'S ENOUGH ROOM TO PUT IN A LITTLE STRIP APARTMENTS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WHICH AT ONE POINT HAD BEEN REQUIRED TO MEET OUR APPROVAL. AND THEN NOW, NOW THIS GUY HERE IS GETTING 25 FOOT SETBACK. WELL, I'M JUST GOING TO PUT IN A NARROW APARTMENT BUILDING THERE AND SELL OFF THE FRONT OF THE PLACE. 
          I, I IT JUST DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT FITS WITH WHAT I THOUGHT OUR PURPOSE WAS TO TRY TO MAKE OUR WHOLE AREA MORE OF A COMMON OR, I DON'T WANT TO SAY A COMMON AREA, MORE OF A LOOK ALIKE, YOU KNOW? SO THERE WASN'T SO MUCH TRANSITION. I MEAN, A SUDDEN TRANSITION FROM, OH, WELL, WE LEFT COLUMBUS, WE'RE NOW IN NEW ALBANY. WE GOT YOU MENTIONED SPLIT RAIL FENCE THREE HIGH. 
          WELL, EVERYTHING IN NEW ALBANY IS NOT SPLIT RAIL. IT'S BOARD. AND IT'S FOR HIGH. SO YOU KNOW THAT'S THAT'S THE FIRST VARIANCE OKAY. THIS IS DIFFERENT. WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE ONE STORAGE BUILDING UP ON WALNUT STREET THAT YOU MENTIONED HE'D COME IN WITH BASICALLY I THINK IT WAS THREE INDIVIDUAL BUILDINGS. AND WE TALKED QUITE A BIT ABOUT IT. AND I SUGGESTED, WELL, WHY DON'T YOU TO KEEP WITH THE COUNTRY FEEL AND EVERYTHING. WHY DON'T YOU MAKE THEM LOOK MORE LIKE A BARN? SO EXTEND THE ROOF A LITTLE BIT OVER THE EDGE AND, YOU KNOW, LOOK MORE LIKE A BARN BECAUSE IT WOULD FIT WITH THE FEEL ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THE MAINTENANCE FACILITY AT THE CORNER OF BEAVER ROAD AND WALNUT STREET FOR THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY, THEIR MAINTENANCE FACILITY? IT'S A HUGE BUILDING, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE A GREAT BIG BARN. EVERYBODY'S HAPPY WITH IT. 
          YEAH, SO YOU KNOW, AND YOU SAY, WELL, YOU CAN'T YOU CAN'T DO A SLOPED ROOF BECAUSE YOU'VE NEVER DONE THAT BEFORE. WELL, OKAY, I CAN APPRECIATE THAT. BUT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT HOW EVERYBODY WOULD BE LIKING IT. AND WANTING IT. I KNOW WHEN WE DID THE CARDINAL STORAGE FACILITY ON HAMILTON ROAD OR YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THEM PAINT ORANGE AND STUFF. THERE WERE A 
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LARGE NUMBER OF PEOPLE SITTING IN THIS ROOM COMPLAINING ABOUT THE IDEA THAT THAT LARGE OF A MONSTROSITY, EVEN THOUGH THERE ARE OTHER BUSINESS ALL AROUND, THEY DIDN'T WANT THAT BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T WANT THEIR HOME IN THE SHADOW OF THIS LARGE BUILDING. AND I KIND OF CHUCKLED TO MYSELF, BECAUSE I TRAVEL THAT WAY FAIRLY FREQUENTLY. I WAS COMING DOWN THERE ABOUT A MONTH AGO, MAYBE A MONTH AND A HALF AGO, AND THE SUN WAS IT WAS STILL DAYLIGHT, BUT IT WAS STARTING TO SET A LITTLE BIT. AND THE ONE FELLA WHOSE HOUSE WAS COMPLAINING THE MOST ABOUT IT, LITERALLY, HIS HOUSE WAS IN THE SHADOW OF THAT BUILDING, YOU KNOW. SO, YOU KNOW, YOU SAY, WELL, IT'S WITHIN THE SHADOW, OKAY. AND THAT'S WHY I'M, I'M WONDERING HOW IT'S GOING TO BE RECEIVED, EVEN THOUGH YOUR MARKETING AND EVERYTHING SAYS, WELL, BY THE BOOK AND THE NUMBERS AND WHAT WE DID IN CLEVELAND AND WHAT WE DID, WHAT THEY DO DOWN SOUTH AND EVERYTHING, I DON'T THINK OF OUR COMMUNITY AS BEING A DOWN SOUTH OR A CLEVELAND OR WHATEVER, AND THAT'S AND LIKE I SAY, I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU SAID HERE OTHER THAN PUTTING THAT KIND OF A BUILDING IN THAT LOCATION. YEAH. AND MR. CHEVALIER, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, I AGREE. BUT WHEN THIS ACCORD WAS ESTABLISHED, HOW MANY DIFFERENT BUSINESS SERVICES WERE THERE OUT IN THE COMMUNITY? AND SO ALTHOUGH THE INTENT IS YOU'VE DESCRIBED BASICALLY 80 OR 90% OF WHAT YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT IS VISUAL. BUT SINCE THAT POINT, THERE ARE SO MANY NEW TYPES OF BUSINESS SERVICES THAT HAVE COME TO THE MARKET AND SELF STORAGE IS RELATIVE. IT'S NOT NEW, BUT IN IT'S THE VOLUME THAT IT HAS COME ON INTO THIS COUNTRY AND EVERYWHERE, EVERYWHERE WITHIN THE COUNTRY IS PRETTY NEW. THE, THE HIGH TECH THAT IT HAS BROUGHT, THE THREE STORY BUILDINGS THAT DIDN'T EXIST 40 YEARS AGO, BUT IT DOES TODAY. SO IF THERE'S ANY COMPROMISE ON THE VISUAL FOR A DIFFERENT A SERVICE THAT THIS IS GOING TO PROVIDE, BECAUSE AGAIN, THE BIGGEST DEMAND GENERATORS ARE THESE APARTMENT UNITS. AND SO WOULD YOU, WOULDN'T YOU THINK THAT PEOPLE WILL SAY, OKAY, WE'VE GOT THESE SERVICES. IT DOESN'T LOOK EXACTLY LIKE WHAT THE ACCORD HAD ORIGINALLY INTENDED, BUT WE NOW HAVE ADDITIONAL SERVICES WHICH ARE HERE TO HELP US OUT. IS THAT A CONSIDERATION? WELL, IN THE LITERATURE THAT I READ ONLINE AND I DON'T HAVE A COPY OF IT WITH ME, BUT STAFF WAS TALKING ABOUT THE SIZE OF THE BUILDING IN, AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS I HAD PUT DOWN HERE. WHAT WHAT IS THE FRONTAGE FOOTING VERSUS. OH, OKAY. IT'S 300 BY 190. I SEE IT ON, ON THE ONE THAT YOU JUST HANDED OUT. SO YOU'VE GOT 300FT AND 190. WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE PLACE AT CENTRAL COLLEGE ROAD, WHERE IT MADE A JOG INTO JUDGE STREET, ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WE HAD WITH IT WAS THE FACT THAT WHAT THEY WERE WANTING TO DO WAS PUT IN THAT THOUSAND. WELL, IT WASN'T A THOUSAND FEET, BUT THERE WAS TWO VERY LONG BUILDINGS WITH JUST ONE BREAK IN IT. AND THAT, YOU KNOW, AFFECTED THE NEIGHBORS. I MEAN, ALL THEY'RE LOOKING AT IS A BIG WHITE NOTHING. SO THOSE ARE THE SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT I HAVE WITH THE PROJECT IN THAT LOCATION. IF IT WERE AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT LOCATION WHERE THERE WERE OTHER BUSINESSES AROUND AND STUFF LIKE THAT, I SAY, GREAT. I PERSONALLY HAVE STUFF IN THE STORAGE UNIT RIGHT NOW, BUT AND THIS ONE WOULD PROBABLY BE CLOSER TO MY HOUSE. SO WAS THE ONE ON WALNUT STREET, WOULD BE CLOSER TO MY HOUSE, BUT THESE AREN'T BUILT YET. BUT YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR HAVING A STORAGE UNIT. I REALLY DO, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT IT FITS IN THAT PART OF THE COMMUNITY WITH THE INDIVIDUAL HOMES AND THE APARTMENTS AND THE SMALLER HOMES THAT ARE STILL THERE. ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE STREET. AND IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE PEOPLE ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE STREET, THEIR PROPERTIES, ARE NOT REALLY LARGE ENOUGH TO REALLY PUT MUCH IN THE WAY OF A COMMERCIAL THING THERE. SO THEY'RE KIND OF LEFT OUT TO DRY TO YOU KNOW, NOT GET BIG BUCKS FOR THEIR, THEIR PROPERTY BECAUSE IT ISN'T A LARGER PIECE OF PROPERTY. AND ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WE'RE GETTING INTO NOW IS THERE'S GETTING LESS AND LESS PROPERTY IN OUR BLACKLICK ACCORD AREA. AND SO AS YOU GET A SMALLER PIECE OF PROPERTY, THEY'RE TRYING TO WIN ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT VARIANCES AND STUFF LIKE THAT AND DIDN'T DOESN'T 
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REALLY GO BACK TO YES, YOU HAVE TO BE WILLING TO CHANGE. AND I THINK I DO VERY WELL AT THAT. 
          BUT IT TO ME, THIS PARTICULAR BUILDING DOES NOT FIT WITH WHAT THAT ORIGINALLY THE AREA WAS OR WHAT I FIGURE IT WILL BE. NOW IF YOU PUT THAT BUILDING IN THERE, I CAN ALMOST GUARANTEE YOU THERE'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING ELSE SIMILAR TO NOT QUITE AS NICE, JUST DOWN THE ROAD, BECAUSE THINGS GO DOWN HILL SLOWLY. SO BUT LIKE I SAY, IT'S A BEAUTIFUL BUILDING. IT'S NOT THE KIND OF ARCHITECTURE THAT THIS PANEL HERE HAS ALWAYS STRIVED FOR. YOU'RE SAYING YOU GOT A CEMENT WALL? IT'S A CEMENT SLAB. THAT'S WHAT WE GOT TO GO WITH. WELL, OKAY. COME UP WITH A WAY THAT THE CEMENT SLAB LOOKS LIKE A BARN SIDING. I DON'T KNO, BUT THERE. AND MAKE IT CHOP IT. 
          YOU WANT A DRIVEWAY IN THE CENTER? OKAY. MAKE TWO, TWO SMALLER BUILDINGS OR THREE SMALLER BUILDINGS. I'M JUST THINKING THAT THERE'S OTHER WAYS AROUND WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO AND TO SAY, WE GOT TO PUT A BIG BUILDING HERE. AND AT THIS POINT, I'M NOT. I PERSONALLY, AND MAYBE EVERYBODY ELSE IS READY TO THROW STONES AT ME BECAUSE THEY AGREE WITH IT. BUT I'M I'M NOT WILLING TO SAY YES. THIS IS A REALLY GOOD PLAN FOR THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY. AND THAT'S THAT'S WHERE I'M COMING FROM. BUT WOULD A BARN LOOKING BUILDING BE COMPLEMENTARY TO ALL THOSE BEAUTIFUL MULTI-FAMILY UNITS AND BUILDINGS THAT ARE GOING IN AROUND THIS, OR IS A QUALITY LOOKING BUILDING LIKE THIS COMPLEMENTARY TO IT OR EVEN AN UPGRADE TO THE ENTIRE AREA? WELL, WE AS A PANEL OVER THE, OVER THE YEARS, ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS WE WANT TO KNOW ABOUT IS, WELL, HOW MANY TREES ARE YOU GOING TO SAVE? WHAT WHAT ARE THE WATER RESTRICTIONS? WHERE'S THE WATER GOING? AND YOU'RE JUST PROBABLY 600FT AWAY FROM ROCKY FORK CREEK. YOU SAY YOU'RE GOING TO PUT IT INTO THE STORM SEWER AND TAKE IT UNDERGROUND SOUTH OF COLUMBUS, AND PROCESS IT FOR THE STORM WATER. YOU KNOW, TO ME THAT IT JUST, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A RETENTION POND AS SUCH. SO I'M, I'M, I'M NOT SURE. LIKE I SAY, IT'S A VERY NICE LOOKING BUILDING AND EVERYTHING, BUT I JUST DON'T SEE IT FITTING IN THAT AREA. MIKE, I WOULD SAY IF YOU LOOK AT THE PLANS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT, THE APARTMENT FACILITY THAT'S GOING TO BE JUST TO THE SOUTH, I THINK THAT'S AT LEAST A THREE STORY BUILDING BRICK. CHARLIE HAD THE PICTURES. WE COULD HAVE PULLED THEM UP IF SHE WAS HERE, BUT THAT BUILDING IS GOING TO BE TALLER THAN OUR BUILDING. THE HARLEM ROAD AND NOT THE HARLEM ROAD, BUT THE CARDINAL STORAGE. THAT'S A THREE STORY FACILITY, TALL. I KNOW IT IS. THERE WON'T BE ANY SHADOWS ON ANY BUILDING. WE BELIEVE THAT TO THE SOUTH PROPERTY LINE. IF YOU LOOK AT THEIR DEVELOPMENT TO FOR PREFERRED APARTMENTS, BACKING UP TO OUR PROPERTY ARE GOING TO BE GARAGES, RESIDENTIAL GARAGES. AND WE UNDERSTAND THE SKIN SHOULD, YOU KNOW, BE THE SAME. BUT YOU BROUGHT UP THE MAINTENANCE FACILITY. I'M GOING TO DRIVE BY THAT WHEN WE GO BACK AND I UNDERSTAND THAT STUFF OVER ON. THERE'S A DANCE STUDIO OVER THERE THAT LOOKS LIKE A BARN AS WELL, YOU KNOW. SO WE'RE HERE TO GET YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS ON THAT. BUT WE THINK THIS IS A PROJECT THAT THAT THE APARTMENTS NEED. THIS IS EXACTLY THE SAME POSITIONING THAT YOU DID. CARDINAL. CARDINAL IS RIGHT NEXT TO SOME BEAUTIFUL APARTMENTS. 
          AND I WENT BY THAT AND I SAID HOME RUN FOR BOTH THE APARTMENTS AND THE STORAGE FACILITY AND THE RESIDENTS IN THAT AREA, BECAUSE IT'S AN UNDERSERVED AREA. IT'S A GREAT LOOKING BUILDING. OUR BUILDING IS GOING TO LOOK EVEN BETTER, AND WE'RE OPEN TO, YOU KNOW, RECOMMENDATIONS. I THINK ROSS SAID THAT HE'S OPEN TO DETENTION, WATER RETENTION. WE'LL LOOK AT THERE'S A MASSIVE IF YOU LOOK, THERE'S I THINK IT'S A HUGE DETENTION BASIN THAT PREFERRED WAS REQUIRED TO PUT INTO THAT BACK LAND THAT THEY BOUGHT FROM OUR OUR SELLER. SO WE'RE TAKING ALL THIS INTO CONSIDERATION AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS OKAY. YEAH. GO AHEAD. DO YOU MIND IF I SAY SOMETHING REALLY QUICK PLEASE. YOU SAID SOMETHING INTERESTING. I THINK THIS KIND OF PIGGYBACKING OFF OF MR. CHAPPELL'S POINT, ONE OF THE MAIN SCORES THAT WE TRY TO LOOK AT IN OUR CHECKLIST OF NEIGHBORHOOD PRIORITIES IS REALLY LOOKING FOR THE DEVELOPMENT TO ALIGN WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER. SO STAFF'S PERSPECTIVE, I THOUGHT YOU SAID SOMETHING INTERESTING THAT THE SOUTHERN PARCEL OR THE SOUTHERN DEVELOPMENT IS ALL 
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BRICK, AND I BELIEVE THAT THE ONE NORTHEAST IS GOING TO BE ALL BRICK AS WELL. NOT QUITE SURE WHAT ALL OF THE BRICK WITH THE WHITE SIDING AND A LITTLE BIT OF STONE, PROBABLY, I THINK I THINK THAT'S KIND OF PART OF THE REASON WHY STAFF WAS CONCERNED WITH THE BUILDING MATERIAL, BECAUSE IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ALIGNING WITH NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER, EVERYTHING THAT SURROUNDS IT IS MADE UP OF BRICK, STONE AND WOOD. SO I THINK JUST TO HELP KIND OF CLARIFY THAT POINT, BECAUSE I THINK WE'RE COMING FROM THE SAME PERSPECTIVE TYPE BUILDING OR HAVE SOME BRICK INCORPORATED INTO THIS DESIGN IS THE GIVE IT A BETTER IS THE BUILDING IS THE BUILDING NEXT TO IT THAT YOU SAY IS THREE STORIES? IS IT TOTAL BRICK OR JUST A BRICK FACADE ON THE FRONT, OR IT'S A BRICK FOOT WALL WITH LAP SIDING ON TOP OF IT, AND MAYBE SOME BRICK ACCENT PANELING TOO, BUT IT'S BRICK. IT'S WHITE AND IT'S TALLER THAN OUR BUILDING. I MIGHT BE MORE AGREEABLE IF THAT'S IT. MORE INTO THE AMBIANCE OF THE DRIVE AS YOU'RE GOING DOWN THE ROAD. 
          WELL, FIRST OF ALL, WOULD IT MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE IF WE MOVED THE BUILDING BACK FROM THE ROAD? LIKE I SAID, WE WERE TOLD THAT IT WOULD BE BETTER TO MOVE THE BUILDING FORWARD. THAT'S WHY WE DID IT. WE HAVE ALL THIS LAND IN THE BACK THAT WE'RE NEVER GOING TO. WE'RE NEVER GOING TO USE. 
          AND WHAT'S GOING TO BACK UP AGAINST US? ARE YOU JUST GOING TO BE A PARKING LOT IN THE BACK? BUT IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE THE MATERIALS, YOU KNOW, WE CAN TALK TO OUR ARCHITECTS AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO TRY TO BLEND MORE INTO THE AREA. SO IT HAS A BETTER FEEL. BRICK HAS A DIFFERENT FEEL THAN, WELL, OKAY, WELL, BUT ON PRECAST, IF YOU DRIVE DOWN THE FREEWAY, YOU CAN SEE PRECAST CEMENT SLABS THAT SOME LOOK LIKE BRICK, SOME LOOK LIKE STONE, SOME LOOK LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE. I MEAN, RATHER THAN JUST PUTTING THE CEMENT SLAB UP, THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING IT JUST TO ME DOESN'T DOESN'T FIT QUITE RIGHT. I MEAN, THE IDEA OF PEOPLE NEEDING A PLACE TO STORE STUFF. YEAH, I, I STORE STUFF MYSELF AND THE STORAGE UNIT, BUT YEAH, I NOT HERE FOR. WE'RE HERE TO DEBATE YOUR MARKET. I THERE'S OBVIOUSLY A NEED. YEAH. AND SO FORTH. I THINK AND I THINK OUR BOARD IS MORE CONCERNED WITH THE ESTHETICS AND WHETHER OR NOT IT FITS INTO WHERE IT'S GOING TO GO AND THINGS LIKE THAT. I THINK MIKE DOES A GOOD JOB OF TRYING TO PORTRAY THAT ARCHITECTURALLY. IT'S A BEAUTIFUL BUILDING AND I'M SURE IT'S A GREAT SETUP, BUT IT PROBABLY DOESN'T FIT WITH THE OVERALL SCOPE OF WHAT WE'VE GOT GOING ON HERE IN THIS COMMUNITY. 
          SO I AGREE, I AGREE, I AGREE WITH MIKE. YOU KNOW, AND I THINK THE PRECAST IS AN ISSUE. JUST THE LOOK OF THE BUILDING. IT IS A GOOD LOOKING BUILDING, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A GOOD FIT FOR OUR COMMUNITY. IS THAT RIGHT. WELL FOR YOU I'D SAY THAT'S A RURAL FIELD PROBABLY. 
          NO IT'S NOT. YEAH IT'S NOT. THAT'S WHAT HE'S. AND YOU'RE GOING INTO A RURAL PEOPLE, YOU KNOW. YEAH. WHAT. WE CAN FIND A DESIGN WE THINK THAT YOU WOULD LIKE THAT WOULD FIT IN. WE'RE NOT MARRIED TO PRECAST. WE JUST WANTED TO DO SOMETHING THAT LOOKED NICE IN THE FIRST PLACE. 
          IT'S BEAUTIFUL. YEAH, IT IS NIC, BUT THERE'S NO IT'S PROBABLY, I THINK, LIKE YOU SAID, YOU'RE NOT. YOU'RE. YOU GUYS DROVE DOWN FROM CLEVELAND AND IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA, LIKE YOU SAID, TO GO OUT AND LOOK AT THE SERVICE GARAGE AND A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN AND THIS HAS BEEN THIS COMMUNITY HAS BEEN PLANNED FOR THE LAST 25, 30 YEARS. AND THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF WORK THAT'S GONE INTO THE ARCHITECTURE OF THE OVERALL FEEL AND THE LOOK OF HOW HOW WHAT THIS PLACE LOOKS LIKE. AND, AND THAT PROBABLY DOESN'T FIT WITHIN THE ESTHETICS OF WHAT WE'RE WHAT WE'VE GOT. WELL, YOU KNOW, YOU GO, GO AND LOOK AT THE, THE SCHOOL, THE, THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, HIGH SCHOOL, MIDDLE SCHOOL. YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHERE ELSE MY FIREHOUSE, THE FIREHOUSE, FIREHOUSE. YEAH. ANY EVERYWHERE. JUST EVEN THE REC CENTER IS GOING TO HAVE TO. YOU LIKE THIS FEATURE HERE? PROBABL. RICK. WHAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THAT PIECE THAT STICKS UP IN THE FRONT? IS THAT, LIKE A LOBBY AREA TYPE FOR THE OFFICE OF THE ENGINEER? AND THIS WOULD BE YOU MEAN THE WE WANTED TO PUT THE SLOPE DOWN THE STREET? IT REALLY WE HAVE A LOT OF AND IF YOU GO TO WHERE ALL OF THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT IS, WHICH IS MOSTLY NORTH OF 161, YOU GO BACK IN 
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THOSE AREAS AND SO FORTH, AND A LOT OF THE BUILDINGS, YOU KNOW, HAVE AN ARCHITECTURAL FEEL FOR IT. THERE'S PROBABLY NOT LIKE THAT. I GUESS WE HAVE APPROVED STORAGE. YEAH. IT SEEMS LIKE THAT'S WHAT WE SEE MORE OFTEN THAN NOT. IT MIGHT BE GOOD TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE FACILITY ON WALNUT THAT CAME THROUGH US LAST YEAR. WELL, IT'S NOT IT'S NOT BUILT YET, BUT THEY'RE WORKING HARD ON IT TODAY. BUT THESE GUYS BUT THEY CAN LOOK AT THE OH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH. SO THE FACILITY ON WALNUT, THERE'S A RENDERING OUT THERE. IT'S A MASSIVE PROPERTY. IT'S A IT'S LIKE A SINGLE STORY BUT VERY THERE'S FRONT BUILDINGS WITH A HIGH PITCH. YOU HAVE PITCHED ROOFS, YOU HAVE SINGLE PITCHED ROOFS. IT'S LIKE A WHITE AND GREEN FACILITY. IT LOOKS IT, YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU'RE SAYING IT ESTHETICALLY FITS IN THAT LOCATION IS MUCH MORE RURAL. AS YOU GUYS KNOW, THEY'RE BUILDING A FIRE STATION RIGHT AT THE CORNER THIS CORNER OF HARLEM AND CENTRAL COLLEGE IS NOT A RURAL CORNER. IT'S THE. WELL, I'M JUST SAYING THE HOUSE IS THERE, BUT THE CORNER, THE CORNER OF CENTRAL COLLEGE ROAD AND HARLEM ROAD, THE SOUTHEAST CORNER IS NOW UNDER CONSTRUCTION, AND THEY'RE PUTTING IN A POLICE STATION AND A FIRE DEPARTMENT, CORRECT? YES, YES. AND WE KNOW THAT ALL THOSE HOUSES. BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S JUST THE WAY THAT PREFERRED GOT THEIR LOT. YOU SAID THAT THE PEOPLE ACROSS THE STREET CAN'T SELL. THOSE ARE PLOTTED PLOTS. THEY'RE GOING TO THEY'RE GOING TO COMBINE THEM AND THEY'RE GOING TO SELL TO A DEVELOPER. YOU KNOW, EVENTUALLY, YOU KNOW, AS DEMAND MEETS. BUT THIS AREA IS RAPIDLY GROWING AND THERE'S A LOT OF DEMAND FOR THOSE. LOTS ARE NOT VERY DEEP. THE ONES, THE ONES ON THE OTHER SIDE ON THE EAST SIDE, THEY'RE NOT VERY DEEP, LESS DEPTH THAN THE ONES ON THIS SIDE. BUT THERE'S A HUGE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT JUST NORTH OF THOSE HOUSES. AND, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE GOING TO GET PULLED IN EVENTUALLY. AND MR. SCHEFFLER, YOU SAID EARLIER THAT IF THERE WAS SOME KIND OF MODIFICATION HERE TO THIS APPEARANCE, YOU MIGHT BE MORE IN FAVOR IF IT LOOKED MORE LIKE IT FIT IN ALONG THE ALONG THAT AREA. YES. AND IF, IF THE BANK THAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT IS BUILDING RIGHT NEXT TO YOUR PLACE THERE WHEN THE GUY SELLS IT AND IT'S THE LAST MEETING WHEN WE WERE DISCUSSING, I ASKED WHAT WAS GOING TO BE DONE WITH THAT PARCEL YOURS THAT YOU HAVE NOW. I ASKED WHAT WAS GOING TO BE DONE WITH THAT AND I BELIEVE THE MINUTES READ SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT OF THERE WAS NOTHING IN THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE. YEAH, WE'RE NOT REPRESENTING THEM AS A BANK THERE BECAUSE NO, NO, NORM IS GOING TO HANG ON TO HIS MAN. 
          NO. WELL, YEAH. HIS HIS MAN PART. YEAH. BACK IN, WHAT WAS IT, JUNE AT OUR MEETING WHEN I ASKED THE QUESTION. WELL, WHAT'S THAT AREA GOING TO BE USED FOR THAT HE WAS KEEPING FOR HIS MAN BAR OR WHATEVER THAT WAS NOTHING IN THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE. SO SOMETIME BETWEEN JUNE AND NOW, IT IS SOMETHING, SOMETHING MORE THAN THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE. SO WHAT WOULD YOU SAY ABOUT OUR COURSE MOVING FORWARD TO GET APPROVAL ON THIS? IF WE MAKE SOME OF THESE MODIFICATIONS? I KNOW YOU CAN'T REPRESENT. YEAH, I MIGHT BE ABLE TO HELP A LITTLE BIT WITH THAT. SO I WAS GOING TO ASK THE QUESTION ABOUT I THINK THOSE FOUR ITEMS THAT WERE HANGING OUT THERE. AND YOU KNOW, I, I WOULD SAY ESPECIALLY SINCE YOU COME IN FROM, FROM CLEVELAND, YOU MAY NOT BE AS FAMILIAR WITH ALL THESE AS THE FOLKS THAT LIVE HERE, BUT I WOULD SAY, JUST LOOK AT THOSE AND JUST SAY, HEY, WHAT WHAT CAN WE DO TO GET A LITTLE BIT CLOSER? IF NOT, YOU KNOW, ALL THE WAY? AND THEN I THINK THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO VISUALIZE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF WHERE, WHERE IT IS AND THEN BE ABLE TO MAKE A DECISION. THIS IS A CONCEPTUAL REVIEW. SO THE PURPOSE IS TO COACH AND SAY, OKAY, IF WE WERE TO APPROVE IT OR NOT APPROVE, THESE WOULD BE THE THINGS THAT THAT WE WOULD CONSIDER. SO THAT THAT'S I THINK WHAT I WOULD SAY, I WAS THINKING ABOUT THOSE FOUR, THOSE FOUR THINGS AND LOOK, HEY, WHAT CAN WE DO TO GET A LITTLE BIT CLOSER TO THAT? I WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING. THE ARCHITECT DID YOU GRAB THE MICROPHONE, PLEASE, SIR? I'M SORRY. THANK YOU. THE ARCHITECT FROM CLEVELAND WHO DREW THIS UP. HE SAYS YOU MAY WANT TO INCORPORATE BRICK, BECAUSE I KNOW THE NEW ALBANY AREA, AND. BUT YEAH. GOODNESS. TRUTH. THAT'S WHAT HE SAID. YEA. 
          YOU KNOW, WE CAN MODIFY THIS SO IT HAS THE FEEL THAT YOU WANT. IT'S A IT'S A BEAUTIFUL BUILDING BY ITSELF. IT'S ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT IT FITS IN WITH, YOU KNOW, THE OVERALL VISION. RIGHT. 
          IT'S A BEAUTIFUL BUILDING AND IT'S AND WE UNDERSTAND THERE'S A BIG NEED I HAVE A QUESTION I 
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HAVE IS YOU GUYS BROUGHT UP THE FACT THAT ABOUT THE YOU DO HAVE PLENTY OF SPACE IN THE BACK. 
          WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT THE 50 FOOT SETBACK? WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE IT SET BACK? AND THE OTHER THING TOO IS DO YOU HAVE ACCESS TO STORMWATER SYSTEM AND WOULD YOU HAVE TO BUILD A RETENTION POND BACK THERE. AND THAT MIGHT DICTATE WHETHER OR NOT YOU COULD MOVE IT BACK ANYWAY. YEAH, I DOUBT THAT THAT OTHER ONE WAS FOR WHATEVER THIS SITE'S GOING TO BE RIGHT? YEAH, THEY'LL DEFINITELY HAVE TO BE STORMWATER RETENTION. THOUGHT ABOUT THIS, AND I WOULD SUGGEST TALKING TO THE CITY OF COLUMBUS TOO BECAUSE. SO THEY'RE GOING TO REQUIRE WATER TO DO THAT. THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE A PROBLEM AT ALL. WE CAN MOVE THE BUILDING BACK. NUMBER ONE, WE CAN MOVE THAT BUILDING BACK. NUMBER TWO, I THINK THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT DID A GOOD JOB WITH THE PLANTS. 
          AND SOMETIMES YOU SEE IT AFTER A YEAR OR TWO YEARS, IT DOESN'T LOOK VERY NICE. WE WILL PUT TOGETHER A BEAUTIFUL ARCHITECTURE. I MEAN, THE LANDSCAPING PLAN IN FRONT. SO WHEN YOU'RE GOING BY, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THAT AND THEN YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THE BUILDING. AND IF WE'RE GOING TO REDESIGN THE BUILDING TO FIT IN WITH THIS ENVIRONMENT, WE'LL REDESIGN THE BUILDING. IT'S NOT A NOT A PROBLEM OKAY. WE LIKE THIS MARKET. WE WANT TO BE HERE. 
          WE THINK THERE'S A NEED IN THIS MARKET FOR THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE. WE CAN GIVE YOU A FIRST CLASS PRODUCT. BELIEVE ME, WE CAN GIVE YOU A FIRST CLASS PRODUCT. YOU KNOW, IF YOU KNEW MUCH ABOUT DUKE AND YOU PROBABLY DO. THEY DID EVERYTHING FIRST CLASS. AND WHEN THEY BOUGHT MY PORTFOLIO, THEY LIKED IT BECAUSE IT WAS FIRST CLASS. I'M NOT BRAGGING, BUT IT WAS FIRST CLASS. SO WE CAN ACCOMPLISH WHATEVER YOU WANT US TO ACCOMPLISH. WE DON'T SEE THAT AS A PROBLEM. YOU DON'T HAVE TO SELL US ON THE NEED FOR THIS. OH, YEAH. I'M SURE YOU GUYS DO AN EXCELLENT JOB. SO. YEAH, BUT IF WE COULD, CAN I MAKE ONE OTHER RECOMMENDATION WHEN YOU WHEN YOU COME BACK, IF YOU HAVE GRAPHICS. WELL, WE'RE, WE'RE USED TO SEEING IT UP ABOVE AND STUFF LIKE THAT AND THAT WAY WHEN THEY, WE CAN USE THE POINTER. YEAH. USE THE POINTER. 
          GET THE POINT ACROSS. YEAH. BUT BUT IF YOU HAVE A LARGER AREA OF NOT ONLY YOUR PROPERTY BUT YOU KNOW THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES THAT THAT HAS A LOT TO DO WITH. BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT A GREEN PIECE WITH A MOST OF THE GREEN PIECE IS FILLED UP WITH A FLAT ROOF. UNDERSTAND? WE'LL, WE'LL WE'LL GET THAT PUT TOGETHER FOR YOU. IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE I'D LIKE, WE WOULD LIKE CLARIFICATION ON WHEN YOU SAID WHEN WE COME BACK, WHAT IS WHEN AND WHAT YOU KNOW, HOW CAN WE GET THIS TIMED SO THAT WE CAN GET CLOSER TO AN APPROVAL AND MEET THE CITY COUNCIL, HOPEFULLY. CITY COUNCIL MEETING IN FEBRUARY? MAYBE. YES. SO WE NEED YOUR GUIDANCE. YEAH. SO WE MEET OR AT LEAST WE HAVE A PLACE ON OUR CALENDAR FOR, FOR MONTHLY MEETING STAFF HAS A DEADLINE FOR WHEN EVERYTHING NEEDS TO BE SUBMITTED. AND OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THEY HAVE INPUT IN IT AS WELL. YOU CAN, YOU KNOW, KIND OF WORK WITH THEM. THE NEXT WINDOW WOULD BE IN DECEMBER. 
          YEAH. OR AS NEEDED. WE HAVE THE THIRD THURSDAY OF THE MONTH, THIRD THURSDAY OF THE MONTH. 
          YEAH. AND CAN WE SET IT UP FOR THE MONTH OF DECEMBER THEN. YEAH POTENTIALLY. YEAH. THAT WE DON'T. THE STAFF MAKES THAT CALL. YEAH. YEAH I'LL MARK YOU DOWN AND I'LL, I'LL SEND EVERYTHING THAT WE SEND IN THE FOR WHAT. IT'S WORTH CATEGORY. THERE ARE TIMES THAT WE HAVE MORE THAN JUST ONE THING ON THE, ON THE DOCKET. SO YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S ALREADY SOMETHING SET UP FOR DECEMBER AND I DON'T KNOW YET, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THERE COULDN'T BE ANOTHER ONE. YOU TELL US WHEN YOU CAN FIT US IN YOUR SCHEDULE AND WE'LL. YEAH, THAT'S THAT'S A QUESTION FOR NOLAN AND HIS TEAM. YEAH. AND THEN WE WOULD NEED AND THEN YOU WANT YOUR SUBMITTALS OF OUR REVISIONS WHAT, TEN DAYS OR TWO WEEKS BEFORE THAT MEETING? IS THAT THE IDEA? YEAH, I WOULD SA. 
          DECEMBER IS A LITTLE TOUGH BECAUSE OF THE HOLIDAYS. YEAH. WHAT IS THE THIRD THURSDAY? YEAH. LET'S IT WOULD BE THE 19TH. 19TH. DO YOU GUYS WANT TO PUSH IT UP TO THE SECOND THIRD OR PUSH IT. NEVER MIND. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS COULD PULL IT TOGETHER THAT QUICKLY. I MEAN, I COULD BE HERE FOR THE NEXT FOR THE THIRD THURSDAY. I'M IN TOWN. I WAS GOING TO SAY I DON'T I DON'T THINK I WOULD SAY PROBABLY THE LATEST WOULD BE A WEEK FROM MONDAY TO HAVE THOSE MATERIALS THAT WOULD GIVE US TIME TO REVIEW IT, TO GIVE IT OUT TO EVERYONE AND PROVIDE A STAFF REPORT. AND I AND I WILL TELL YOU THIS TOO, YOU KNOW, EVEN IF YOU GUYS COME BACK CONCEPTUALLY, WE CAN TURN IT INTO A VOTE ALSO. OKAY. OH, GREAT. SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS DECEMBER SECOND, HAVE THE PLANS TO YOU THE REVISIONS DECEMBER 2ND MONDAY FOR A DECEMBER 19TH MEETING. DID I GET 
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THAT RIGHT? CORRECT. IN THIS ROOM? YES. OKAY. YOU GUYS, YOU MENTIONED THAT THAT WOULD YOU GUYS PREFER TO BE THE 12TH? I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE. I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT. YEAH, YEAH. BECAUSE YEAH I KNOW WE JUST GO WHERE WE'RE TOLD WHEN WE'RE TOLD. 
          YEAH. WE JUST TRY TO MAKE GOOD DECISIONS. BUT I, WE DON'T WE MIGHT NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO CHANGE THAT. BUT LIKE I SAID WE DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM. YOU KNOW. AND WE KNOW IT'S A YOU GUYS DRIVE BACK AND FORTH AND SO FORTH AND, AND YOU AND YOU AND ALSO I KNOW YOU WANT TO GET THIS GOING AS MOVING IT DOWN THE PIK. AND LIKE I SAID, WE DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM VOTING ON, YOU KNOW, THE NEXT GO ROUND. SO OKAY, GREAT. ON THE 19TH, 4:00, ARE YOU GOING TO LET US KNOW 4:00 OKAY, GOOD. 
          GREAT. AND THEN SHELLY AND MAYBE TIM DIETRICH HAD MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT A DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE MEETING IN JANUARY. YEAH. SO JUST TO HELP OUT. YEAH. THERE'S A WE ARE THE FIRST STOP. 
          I THINK THERE'S IT'S A THREE STOP PROCESS. SO THERE'S THE DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE AND THEN IT GOES TO CITY COUNCIL. CORRECT. OKAY. I'M LEARNING. YE. THAT'S CORRECT. WHICH AND WHAT HAPPENS IN THAT DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE MEETING IN JANUARY. DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION IS ESSENTIALLY ANOTHER BODY. SO THIS BOARD KIND OF REGULATES THINGS I GUESS FROM A NEW ALBANY AREA PERSPECTIVE. BUT THE DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION KIND OF REPRESENTS THE ENTIRE CITY OF COLUMBUS. SO THIS IS THE CITY OF COLUMBUS APPLICATION. IT'S JUST ANOTHER COMMISSION THAT IT HAS TO GO TO. AND OKAY, IS THERE A CHECKLIST OR SOMETHING WE HAVE TO MEET FOR THAT DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE OR. NO, THEY THEY TYPICALLY STRONGLY TAKE THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE FIRST APPROVAL BODY. OKAY. YEAH. AND THEN HE SAID IN FEBRUARY WOULD BE CITY COUNCIL. CORRECT. OKAY. 
          POSSIBLY I GOT TO REDO THE RENDERING OF THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING AND THEN WE'LL DO IT ALL WITH YOU AT ALL. YEAH. AND YEAH. AND I LIKE I SAID, I YEAH, I, I'M ACTUALLY MY, MY DAD HAS A DEGREE IN ARCHITECTURE AND WAS A CITY PLANNER BUT I'M NOT. SO I DON'T WANT TO, YOU KNOW, TELL YOU EXACTLY WHAT TO DO. BUT I THINK THAT THOSE FOUR CRITERIA THAT WERE LEFT OUT WOULD BE A GOOD PLACE TO FOCUS, TO TRY TO BRING IT IN THERE IN THAT RESPECT, APPRECIATE IT. AND ONE MORE SHOUT OUT. SHE'LL BE ABLE TO ADVISE YOU ALSO 100%. I'M GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT SHE HAS ALL OF THIS INFORMATION WHEN SHE GETS BACK INTO TOWN. ON MONDAY, SO I'LL MAKE SURE THAT SHE REACHES OUT TO YOU AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. SO STEELERS TONIGHT, WHY NO BROWNS. IT'LL BE STEELERS BY THEMSELVES. THE BROWNS WON'T SHOW UP. THAT'S WHY WE'RE DOWN HERE. WE'RE HERE FOR THE OHIO STATE. WE HOPE TO MISS IT. GO TO THE GAME TONIGHT RIGHT. NO. YOU GUYS ARE DROPPING BACK TO CLEVELAND. ARE YOU DROPPING BACK YEAH. OH YEAH. YEAH IT'S A 58 BY THE WAY. MY DAUGHTER GRADUATED FROM OHIO STATE. BIG GAME BIG GAME THIS WEEKEND. SO DID WHAT A GAME. I'LL BE DOWN HERE AND MY SON TURNS 21 SATURDAY. SO IT'S GOING TO BE A DAY. AND YOU GUYS ARE GOING WE'RE GOING TO THE GAME. YEAH. GOOD GOOD GOOD A GOOD GAME DAY. COLLEGE GAME DAY IS ON. YEAH IT'S GOING TO BE EARLY BUT WE'LL WE'LL WRAP YOU KNOW GET THERE FOR WHEN THE BAND COMES OUT. FIRST TAILGATE AT 21. 
          YEAH THAT'S FOR SURE. FIRST TAILGATE FIRST BEER. FIRST BEER. THAT'S LEGAL. THE FIRST LEGAL. 
          YEAH. FIRST EVER GOOD PARENTING. YEAH. IS THIS PART OF THE CITY? YEAH. I WAS THINKING WE PROBABLY SHOULD GO AHEAD AND WRAP IT UP JUST SO THAT THIS DOESN'T ALL GO INTO THE RECORD, BUT. YEAH. SO I THINK WE'VE GIVEN YOU THE GUIDANCE AND DEFINITELY WORK CLOSELY WITH STAFF. AND THEY CAN, YOU KNOW, REALLY DIG IN. SO THANK THANK YOU FOR COMING DOWN. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR ALL THE GREAT COMMUNICATION ON THIS TOO. AND I KNOW YOU GUYS CAN'T DRIVE AROUND TONIGHT, BUT MAYBE IF YOU LOOK ONLINE AT SOME OF THE BUILDINGS AND SO FORTH, THE SCHOOL THERE'S STUFF ON THE WEBSITE WITH THE SCHOOL ARCHITECTURE, THE SERVICE CENTER AND STUFF LIKE THAT. GET A FEEL FOR THE LOT OF WORK THAT'S GONE IN TO MAKING IT THE WAY IT LOOKS TODAY. YEAH, THERE'S A NEW REC CENTER THAT'S COMING. THAT'S I THINK IT'S TECHNICALLY BEEN ANNEXED INTO THE CITY, WAS IN 
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THE TOWNSHIP. BUT EVEN THAT REC CENTER WITH TWO BIG PRE-ENGINEERED METAL BUILDINGS HAS TO HAVE A CERTAIN LOOK AND FEEL. SO I THINK BETWEEN THAT AND THE SERVICE CENTER OUT OF BETHLEHEM THAT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT, I'LL GIVE YOU A GOOD INDICATION OF KIND OF THE VISUALS OF WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO CAPTURE IN TOWN. SO AND YOU MIGHT AND THERE MIGHT THERE PROBABLY. ALSO, WE HAVE A LARGE COMMERCIAL BASE HERE TOO. THAT'S BEEN DEVELOPED, AND A LOT OF WORK HAS GONE INTO THE WAY THOSE BUILDINGS ARE. WE CAN LOOK AT SOME OF THE ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES THAT WE LIKE AND DON'T LIKE, AND WE CAN INCORPORATE THAT. THAT'S. YEAH, EXACTLY. 
          PERFECT. THANKS. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU AGAIN. NICE MEETING YOU. OKAY. SORRY. I WAS LATE. YEAH. THANKS FOR COMING DOWN. OH, NO, WE KNOW THAT. AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO HOLD YOU GUYS UP. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. YEAH. NICE TO MEET YOU, SCOTT. NICE TO MEET YOU. NICE TO MEET YOU. OH, IT'S OKAY, IT'S ALRIGHT. NICE TO MEET YOU. NICE TO MEET YOU. THANK YOU. YEAH, I KNOW WHEN I FIRST CAME ON, I COMPLETELY MISSED THE MEETINGS. I DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS EVEN. YOU KNOW, IT TAKES A WHILE TO GET THE CADENCE AND WE'LL PROBABLY BE BACK NEXT MONTH. YOU KNOW, WITH THE REST OF THIS. YEAH, I UNDERSTAND. I'M ON MY WAY, ACTUALLY, UP TO OHIO STATE FOR AN EVENT, SO I. IT STARTS AT SIX. SO YEAH. LET ME KEEP THAT IN THE BACK HERE. OH YEAH. YEAH. 
          IS THERE A WATER LINE? OH SURE. THERE USED TO BE A GAS STATION AT THE CORNER. YEAH, IT LOOKS LIKE A BIG SPACESHIP. SO WATER SHOULD BE OKAY. YEAH, RIGHT. YEAH. OKAY. DID DID WE. DID WE HAVE ANY OTHER BUSINESS? I'M ASSUMING WE DON'T. EVERYONE'S GOT THEIR COAT ON. YEAH. SO WE NEED A MOTION FOR ADJOURNMENT. I HAVEN'T SEEN IT YET. OKAY. I THINK IT PASSED. IT COULD BE. 
          HAPPY THANKSGIVING, AND WE'LL SEE YOU SOON. THANKS. THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED AT 5:22 P.M. THANK YOU ALL. THANK YOU. SWAGAT. NICE SEEING YOU. ALL RIGHT
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.