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OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I WOULD LIKE TO CALL TO ORDER THE DECEMBER 19TH, 2024 ROCKY FORK BACKLIT KEYBOARD PANEL. CAN YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? MR. BRUBAKER? MR. SELLERS. HERE. MR. SIEBENALER. HERE. MR. PAUL. HERE. MR. HERSKOWITZ. HERE. MR. CHAPELLIER. HERE. MR. HARPER. HERE. MISS BONEY. HERE.
MR. SMITHERS. HERE. SEVEN MEMBERS PRESENT. WE HAVE A QUORUM. ALL RIGHT. GREAT. NEXT IS ORGANIZATION. IS THERE ANYTHING WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT REGARDING THAT? NO UPDATES
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TODAY. OKAY, THANKS. THE NEXT ON THE AGENDA IS THE APPROVAL OF RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS FROM THE NOVEMBER 21ST, 2024 MEETING. AND I BELIEVE THERE IS AN AMENDMENT TO THOSE MINUTES. THAT IS CORRECT. WE WOULD LIKE TO AMEND THE MINUTES TO REFLECT THAT. MR. SIEBENALER WAS HERE AT 421, AND TO REMOVE THAT FROM MR. PAUL. I WAS GOING TO SAY I OCCASIONALLY I'VE BEEN IN TWO PLACES AT ONCE, BUT I DIDN'T THINK I WAS AT THIS MEETING. SO THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT. ALL RIGHT. OH SORRY. CAN I HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES WITH THE AMENDMENT? MOTION. SELLERS. I'LL SECOND PAUL. THANK YOU. MR. SELLERS. YES. MR. PAUL? YES. MR. SIEBENALER. YES. MR. HERSKOWITZ.YES. MR. CHAPELLIER. YES. MR. HARPER? YES. MISS BONI. YES. THE MOTION PASSES. THERE ARE SEVEN VOTES TO APPROVE THE MINUTES, AS AMENDED. ALL RIGHT. I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S ANY OLD
[V. New Business]
BUSINESS. BUT THE NEW BUSINESS IS THE SECOND REVIEW OF THIS APPLICATION. SO WE'LL HAVE WE HAVE ZONING APPLICATIONS, ZONING Z 24 .059 PREMIER STORAGE, LOCATED AT 6955 TO 69.99 HARLEM ROAD. I GUESS WE'LL OPEN IT UP FOR THE STAFF REPORT, AS THERE'S BEEN UPDATES SINCE WE LAST MET, AND TAKE IT FROM THERE. YES. SO GOOD AFTERNOON. Z 24 059 IS A COLUMBUS APPLICATION FROM PREMIER DEVELOPMENT PARTNERS IN REFERENCE TO A PROPERTY LOCATED AT 69, 55 AND 6999 HARLEM ROAD, WHICH IS LOCATED JUST WEST OF HARLEM. NORFOLK CENTRAL COLLEGE AND DESIGNATED VILLAGE RESIDENTIAL, WITH THE PERMITTED USE BEING SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL. THE SITE IN QUESTION CONSISTS OF TWO PARCELS THAT HAVE BEEN ANNEXED INTO COLUMBUS AS RURAL. THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO REZONE A COMBINED 4.4 ACRE AREA FROM RURAL TO LIMITED MANUFACTURING TO BUILD A SELF-STORAGE FACILITY. THE FACILITY IS TWO STORIES AND 114FT■!S, WITH PARKG LOCATED AT THE REAR AND NORTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY. THE LANDSCAPE PLAN SHOWS THE FUNDED BUILDING AS WELL AS HAS LANDSCAPING, AND THERE IS A FIVE FOOT WIDE CONCRETE SIDEWALK SIDEWALK ON THE HARLEM ROAD LANDSCAPE PARKING ISLANDS AND INDICATES THE PRESERVATION OF TREES AT THE WEST PROPERTY LINE. ADDITIONALLY, THE LIGHTING PLAN INDICATES FULLY SHIELD BEACON LIGHTING IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE RFP PLAN. AT THE PREVIOUS MEETING, STAFF REQUESTED THE APPLICANT EXPLORE OPPORTUNITIES TO INCLUDE STREET TREES ON HARLEM ROAD AND TO REVISE THE ELEVATIONS TO ALIGN WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER AND THE RFP ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN GUIDELINES. SINCE THAT TIME, THE APPLICANT HAS DONE THE FOLLOWING. INCREASE THE BUILDING SETBACK ON THE SOUTH PROPERTY LINE FROM 7.5FT TO 25FT, AND REDUCE THE SETBACK ON THE WEST PROPERTY LINE FROM 160FT TO 25, AND FROM SEVEN AND A HALF TO SEVEN FEET ON THE NORTH. THE REVISED BUILDING ELEVATIONS INDICATE MASSING ON THE EAST, A PITCHED ROOF AT THE NORTH AND SOUTHEAST CORNERS, AND SEE THROUGH GLASS ON THE NORTH, AND THE USE OF BRICK, SANDSTONE AND PRE-FINISHED FASCIA BOARD. BUILDING MATERIALS. THE APPLICATION SCORED 84% ON THE CHECKLIST, AND GIVEN THE EMERGING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN ALONG HARLEM ROAD, PLANNING FINDS THE PROPOSED LAND USE TO BE APPROPRIATE AT THE DESIGN GUIDELINES HAVE GENERALLY BEEN MET AND THEREFORE RECOMMEND APPROVAL WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS THAT THE APPLICANT EXPLORE. OPPORTUNITIES TO ADD STREET TREES TO HARLEM ROAD. MAXIMIZE THE USE OF SEE THROUGH GLASS ON HARLEM ROAD, AND UTILIZE THE MASSING TO MAXIMIZE A VILLAGE SCALE. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THE STAFF REPORT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. I GUESS WE'LL START[00:05:03]
WITH OPENING UP THE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS WITH THE PANEL. I GUESS I HAVE ONE QUESTION. WHEN YOU SAY ADD STREET TREES, I ASSUME YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BETWEEN THE SIDEWALK AND HARLEM ROAD. THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. I HAVE A QUESTION IN THE IMAGES THAT YOU'RE SHOWING HERE, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A SMALL LIKE A SNAKE SHAPED POND OR WATER FEATURE. IS THAT CORRECT? IS THAT. NO, NO. IT'S THE. I THINK YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE LANDSCAPING. THAT IS AT. SERPENTINE SHAPED. OKAY. YEAH. FROM FROM SOMETHING THAT I WAS LOOKING AT. IT LOOKED MORE LIKE A POND AREA. OKAY. IF THAT'S WHAT YOU HAVE THERE. YEAH, THAT'S THE LANDSCAPE. OKAY. IS THERE ANY ELEVATION CHANGE ON THAT, OR IS IT JUST A FLAT? YOU KNOW, I THERE WAS SOMETHING ABOUT MOUNDING I SAW IN THE IN THE COURT PLAN, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THE ARCHITECT PUT IN ANY MOUNDING FOR THAT LANDSCAPING OR NOT. IF THERE IS MOUNDING, THAT'S MINIMAL. I MEAN, IT'S JUST TO ACCENT THE LANDSCAPING. IF THERE, IF IT IS THERE, BUT I DON'T KNOW. OH I'M SORRY. YEAH. I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S CATCHING IT ON THE RECORD. IF YOU DON'T MIND STATING YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. THANK YOU. YEAH, AND I SHOULD INTRODUCE MYSELF. MY NAME IS TOM GUSTAFSON. I'M PART OF THE PREMIER DEVELOPMENT GROUP, AND MY COLLEAGUE IS MATT DAVIS.WE'RE FROM CLEVELAND, AND SO MY POINT WAS THAT IS LANDSCAPING THAT GREEN SERPENTINE SHAPE, IF YOU WILL, IN THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING BETWEEN THE SIDEWALK AND THE BUILDING. I THINK THERE IS A MINOR AMOUNT OF MOUNDING TO JUST ACCENT THE LANDSCAPING THERE. I DON'T KNOW TO WHAT EXTENT THAT IS. ALSO, I WANTED TO POINT OUT I WAS SPEAKING WITH THIS LADY PRIOR TO THE MEETING, A RESIDENT TO THE NORTH, AND SHE WAS CONCERNED THAT IF YOU COULD GO BACK TO THE VERY PREVIOUS SLIDE TO THIS ONE, THIS SHOWS THAT, WELL, THEN THE ONE. WELL, AND THEN ONE MORE, PLEASE. OKAY.
THAT PLAN SHOWS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO REZONE THE ENTIRE PIECE. TWO FULL PARCELS, WHICH ARE APPROXIMATELY 6.1 ACRES ALL THE WAY NORTH TO WHERE YOUR RESIDENCE IN. BUT THAT IS NOT THE CASE. WE ARE REZONING ONLY THE SOUTHERN 4.4 ACRES, WHICH LEAVES APPROXIMATELY 1.7 ACRES FOR THE LANDOWNER TO THE NORTH THAT WILL BE UNTOUCHED. THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO REZONE.
SO WHERE THAT WHITE ROOF BUILDING IS, THAT'S HIS. THAT'S HIS MAINLAND BARN, AS HE CALLS IT. YES. THIS IS WHAT IT WILL LOOK LIKE. AND THE LANDSCAPING PLAN THAT CHARLIE WAS JUST ON REFLECTS THAT AS WELL. I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT. OH THANK YOU. APPRECIATE THAT. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? QUESTIONS FOR NOW. I KNOW I WASN'T AT THE LAST MEETG, BUTIN I DID LISTEN TO THE HEARING AND IT SEEMS LIKE A LOT OF THE CONCERNS WERE ADDRESSED, AT LEAST ON THE ARCHITECTURAL SIDE. SO I APPRECIATE THAT. I GUESS HEARING NONE. DOES THE APPLICANT HAVE ANY OTHER WORDS BEFORE WE OPEN THAT UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? NO, WE'RE OPEN TO ANSWERING ANYBODY'S QUESTIONS, PLEASE. IF I MIGHT SAY THIS STARTED OFF AS DID WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE PANEL OVER HERE? AND THEN WE KIND OF GOT SHIFTED OVER HERE. SO ARE WE STILL TALKING WITH THIS OR OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE DEVELOPER? AND IS HE GOING TO GIVE A PRESENTATION FOR NOT ONLY US BUT OTHER PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE THIS EVENING? AT THIS TIME I DID RECEIVE UPDATED INFORMATION, WHICH I SHARED, AND I ALSO SHARED THIS PRESENTATION WITH THE APPLICANT. AND SO IF THEY HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO SHARE, THEY CAN DO SO. ANY ADDITIONS TO WHAT'S BEEN PRESENTED? WELL, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A BRIEF OVERVIEW THEN, AT LEAST BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT SOME OF THE PANEL MEMBERS WEREN'T HERE LAST MONTH TO EVEN UNDERSTAND THE WELL, MAYBE THEY DO UNDERSTAND IT, BUT SO THAT THEY CAN UNDERSTAND IT BETTER. AND ANY OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE THIS TIME MIGHT UNDERSTAND WHAT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE THIS EVENING. I JUST THINK IT SHOULD
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BE GIVEN A LITTLE MORE DISCUSSION AS OPPOSED TO WE TALKED ABOUT IT LAST MONTH. IF YOU CAN CLARIFY FOR ME. YOU YOU WANT US TO EXPLAIN LAST MONTH'S HEARING? WELL, I THINK THE DEVELOPER SHOULD GIVE AT LEAST A BRIEF OVERVIEW AS TO EXACTLY WHAT IT IS, HOW THE PLANS HAVE CHANGED, HOW MUCH BETTER THEY ARE, OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, AS OPPOSED TO JUST SAYING, WELL, WE TALKED ABOUT IT LAST MONTH AND WE'RE DOING IT THIS MONTH. THAT'S THAT'S WHERE I'M COMING FROM. AND SINCE WE'RE DISCUSSING IT, THIS ASPECT HAS THE PUBLIC IN ANY WAY BEEN NOTIFIED BY THE DEVELOPERS OF WHAT HE INTENDS TO DO WITH WITH THE PROPERTY? THE CITY OF COLUMBUS DID SEND OUT FOR Z24 059 TO THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS WHO ARE NEARBY. THEY DID RECEIVE NOTICE THAT THEIR ZONING APPLICATION WAS SUBMITTED TO THE CITY OF COLUMBUS. OKAY. DOES THAT INCLUDE THE PEOPLE IN PLAIN TOWNSHIP? THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE THOSE PEOPLE, BUT THEY'RE RIGHT ACROSS THE ROAD. THEIR THEIR PROPERTY IS BOUND TO THE PROPERTY. IT'S WITHIN A CERTAIN BOUNDARY. AND SO I AM I WILL HAVE TO CLARIFY WHO RECEIVED WHAT. BUT I DO KNOW THERE'S A PERIMETER FOR WHEN YOU SUBMIT A ZONING APPLICATION. WHO HAS TO RECEIVE THAT INFORMATION? IT'S 200FT. 200FT. IS IT MY UNDERSTANDING THAT ONCE IT GOES TO THE NEXT PHASE AFTER THIS BOARD, THAT THERE WOULD BE ANOTHER SET OF NOTIFICATIONS TO THE RESIDENTS NEARBY THAT FOLLOW THAT 200 FOOT ROLLING? WELL, THE PROBLEM THAT I'M HAVING WITH THAT IS THAT ONCE IT LEAVES OUR OUR COMMITTEE RIGHT HERE, THEN IT GOES TO THE CITY OF COLUMBUS, I ASSUME. TOTALLY. AND I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT WHAT GOES ON AFTER THAT, BECAUSE NOBODY EVER COMES BACK TO US TO SAY, WELL, THIS IS WHAT WE'VE DONE. I'VE NEVER, NEVER SEEN A CHANGE THAT'S BEEN MADE AFTER WE'VE MADE RECOMMENDATIONS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. IT JUST DOESN'T EVER COME BACK TO US AGAIN. SO THAT'S WHY, SINCE THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE HERE, I ASSUME THEY HAVE SOME INTEREST IN THIS. AND I THINK THAT IT WOULD BE FAIR TO THE COMMUNITY WHETHER THEY GOT PUBLIC NOTICE OR NOT, BECAUSE I TALKED WITH A LADY EARLIER BETWEEN THE LAST MEETING AND THIS ONE, AND KNOWING THAT HER CLOSE PROXIMITY TO WHERE THIS IS GOING TO BE, I WAS EXPLAINING TO HER AND HER HUSBAND WHAT WAS BEING DISCUSSED, AND SHE HADN'T HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT IT AT ALL, AND WAS, NO, I DON'T WANT TO NECESSARILY SAY IT ON A PUBLIC FORUM, BUT SHE WAS VERY UPSET ABOUT THE FACT THAT THIS THIS WAS BEING DONE AND THERE WASN'T ANY ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT IT AT ALL. AND SO SINCE WE'RE THE FIRST POINT, I UNDERSTAND THAT, YES, TECHNICALLY WE DON'T HAVE ANY CONTROL OVER THAT PART. BUT WHEN IT GOES TO THE NEXT STEP, THEN IT'S MAYBE LOOKED AT. SURE. YEAH. SO WITH HEARING THE PANEL, MEMBERS OF THE APPLICANT WOULDN'T MIND PROVIDING A BRIEF OVERVIEW AND IN ADDITION TO STAFF COMMENTS, SHARE ANY OF THE CHANGES SINCE WE DO HAVE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC HERE. THANK YOU. SURE. HAPPY TO DO SO. AND PLEASE ASK ANY QUESTIONS YOU'D LIKE. MATT AND I ARE WITH COLLIERS. WE'RE A COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE GROUP AND WE ARE. WE TRANSACT ONLY SELF-STORAGE PROPERTIES AROUND THE COUNTRY. WE'VE TRANSACTED IN 20 PLUS STATES. WE UNDERSTAND THIS SPACE VERY, VERY WELL. AND ALL THE DIFFERENT PHASES OF IT. AND A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE THINK SELF-STORAGE AND THEY'RE THINKING OF OUTDOOR ROAD BUILDINGS AND LOTS OF CARS AND PEOPLE STANDING OUTSIDE OF THEIR UNITS AND SO FORTH. WELL, THIS IS VERY DIFFERENT BECAUSE IT'S A SELF-CONTAINED BUILDING. WE DO HAVE ALONG THE SIDES OF THE BUILDING IN THE BACK ONLY. OUTDOOR. THERE ARE 24 OF THEM. YOU CAN SEE THOSE DOORS. THAT'S TOWARDS THE WESTERN HALF OF THE BUILDING ON THE NORTH AND SOUTH SIDE. THOSE ARE FOR PEOPLE WHO IT'S JUST AN EASY ACCESS FOR THEM. IF THEY WANT TO STORE THEIR CARS IN THERE. BUT WHAT? WHY THIS LOCATION IS BECAUSE THERE'S A THERE'S A DEMAND IN THIS AREA. GIVEN ALL THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S GOING ON IN RESPONSE TO THE INTEL, TO THE HOUSING GROWTH, THE NEW ALBANY, ALL OF THIS, AND THERE'S A DEMAND. AND SO WE'VE CALCULATED THERE'S IN EXCESS OF 200,000FT■S OF ADDITIONAL STORAGE THAT COULD BE BUILT HERE BEFORE SUPPLY AND DEMAND BECOME AN EQUILIBRIUM. SO[00:15:04]
WHAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT HERE IS TO BUILD SOMETHING THAT IS SAFE. FIRST OF ALL, IT'S ABOUT 60% OF THE TENANTS ARE RESIDENTIAL AND 65% OF THOSE THESE ARE NATIONAL STATISTICS ARE WOMEN. AND IT IS SO IMPORTANT THAT THESE PROPERTIES BE BUILT SO THEY'RE SAFE AND SECURE, WELL MAINTAINED. AND THAT'S WHAT THIS PROPERTY, AS DO MOST ALL OF THE SELF-STORAGE PROPERTIES HAVE IN MIND. SO WHAT WE'VE DONE WITH THIS IS TO BUILD A DESIGN RATHER A TWO STORY PROPERTY. IT HAS A DRIVE THROUGH. SO IF YOU HAVE LEASED A UNIT THERE AS A TENANT, AND THIS IS AMENITY FOR EVERYONE IN THE AREA, THERE ARE APARTMENT USERS, SINGLE FAMILY HOUSEHOLDS THAT MAY NEED STORAGE. AND SO THE IDEA IS YOU PULL INTO THIS DRIVE THROUGH AND IT GOES FROM THE NORTH SIDE TO THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE BUILDING, AND IT'S GOT A 14 FOOT ROLL UP DOOR, ACTUALLY A 16 FOOT ROLL UP DOOR. YOU PULL IN AFTER YOU PUT A KEY, YOUR CODE INTO A KEYPAD, AND THEN THE DOOR CLOSES BEHIND YOU AND YOU CAN SAFELY UNLOAD YOUR ARTICLES. ALSO, JUST TO GET INTO THE PERIMETER PREMISES TO THE WEST OF WHERE THE OFFICE IS, ON THE FRONT SIDE OF THE BUILDING, THERE WILL BE A PULL UP GATE. SO TO OPEN THAT GATE YOU HAVE TO HAVE YOUR OWN ASSIGNED CODE TO OPEN UP THAT GATE. THERE IS AN OFFICE THAT WILL BE THERE THAT WILL BE OPEN AND STAFFED BY PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, IT'S USUALLY TWO MANAGERS. SO FOR ANYONE WHO WANTS TO PULL IN AND LEASE A UNIT, THEY CAN YOU CAN SEE THE OFFICE ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THAT ELEVATION. AND SO THERE'S PARKING ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THAT WITH A DOOR, A PEOPLE SIZED DOOR TO WALK THROUGH AND RENT A UNIT. SO WHAT WE'VE DONE WAS WE CAME HERE WITH A PRECAST LOOK. PREMIER DEVELOPMENT IS A THEY'VE THEY'RE VERY EXPERIENCED DEVELOPER ACROSS THE COUNTRY. THEY'VE BUILT OVER 15,000,000FTS OF INDUSTRIAL AND OFFICE SPACE.SO THEY CAME UP WITH THE DESIGN, WE PRESENTED IT AND THE DESIGN WAS NOT CONFORMABLE TO THE SURROUNDING AREA. SO WE THOUGHT, OKAY, LET'S DO SOMETHING THAT IS CONFORMABLE, THAT BRINGS IN SOME HIP HIP ROOFS AND BRINGS IN THE BRICK. SOME NATURAL STONE HAS A LOCAL APPEAL. SO WE'VE CHANGED THE DESIGN. YES, PLEASE. I'M SORRY IF YOU. NO, NO, YOU'RE KEPT TALKING. WE'RE TRYING TO ANSWER A LOT OF QUESTIONS. PLEASE. NOT QUESTIONS. I'M SORRY. YEAH, I THINK IF. ARE YOU PART OF THE APPLICANTS OR. WE'LL OPEN IT UP TO THAT PUBLIC COMMENT AFTER AFTER YOUR PRESENTATION. BECAUSE WE NEED TO SWEAR YOU IN. OKAY. THANK YOU. I THOUGHT YOU SAID YOU GOT TO ANSWER THE QUESTION. I'M SORRY. I'M JUMPING OUT OF TURN HERE. WE JUST NEED TO SWEAR YOU IN BEFORE WE OPEN UP PUBLIC COMMENT. THAT'S FINE, THAT'S FINE. OKAY, SO WHAT ELSE? I WOULD I WOULD ADD THAT ONE OF YOUR CONCERNS PROBABLY IS TRAFFIC. AND A LOT OF PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, YOU THINK THAT A STORAGE FACILITY IS GOING TO SEE A TON OF PEOPLE. IT IS THE EXACT OPPOSITE. IT IS A VERY LOW USE. ONCE THEY GET THERE, THEY HARDLY EVER COME BACK. IF YOU SEE TWO CARS THERE AT A TIME, IT'S PROBABLY A LOT. THE HOURS ARE RESTRICTED FROM IN THE MORNING. I BELIEVE IT'S 6 A.M.
TO 10 P.M. NOBODY'S GOING TO BE COMING IN. IT'S SURROUNDED BY APARTMENTS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE PROPERTY. IT'S GOING TO BE A HUGE DEVELOPMENT WITH WITH BIGGER BUILDINGS THAN WHAT WE'RE BUILDING THERE. SO YEAH, WE JUST TRIED TO TRY TO, YOU KNOW, LISTEN, WE CAME AND LISTENED. WE WANTED TO BUILD SOMETHING THAT'S CONFORMING TO THE COMMUNITY AND THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS WILL BE HAPPY WITH. BUT THESE THESE ARE THIS IS A USE THAT'S HIGHLY NEEDED IN THAT AREA. IT'S A VERY UNDER SATURATED MARKET. AND ALL THE APARTMENT USERS AND THE HOMES IN THAT THIS IS A BENEFIT WE BELIEVE. SO IT LOOKS LIKE WE MIGHT BE READY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT UNLESS THE PANEL HAD ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND THANKS TO MY COLLEAGUE WHO WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THOSE OF US WHO WEREN'T HERE TO HEAR THE CASE LAST MONTH. IT IS WAS AVAILABLE TO US AS MEMBERS OF THE PANEL TO REVIEW THE PROCEEDINGS AFTER THE MEETING. SO WE I THINK WE PRETTY WELL CAME UP TO SPEED. A QUESTION, THOUGH FOR STAFF ARE THE VIDEO PROCEEDINGS FROM LAST MONTH
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AVAILABLE ALSO TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC ANYWHERE THEY ARE ON NEW ALBANY'S WEBSITE? YES THEY ARE.OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. AND YOU'VE JUST ANSWERED ONE OF MY QUESTIONS AND YOU MIGHT HAVE DONE SO LAST MONTH, I CAN'T RECALL WHICH WAS SIMPLY THE HOURS OF OPERATION, THE HOURS WHEN THE FACILITY IS STAFFED. I ASSUME YOU SAID 6 A.M. TO 10 P.M, CORRECT. OKAY. IT'S A IS IT A 24 HOUR ACCESS FACILITY OR YOU CANNOT GET TO YOUR IT'S NOT. IT'S JUST DURING THOSE HOURS.
OKAY. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. AND SO LET ME REPHRASE THE QUESTION. DURING THOSE HOURS OF ACCESS, 6 A.M. TO 10 P.M, YOU MENTIONED ARE THERE STAFF ON SITE DURING THAT ENTIRE SPAN OF TIME? TYPICALLY IT'S 8 A.M, STAFF IS 8 A.M. TO 6 P.M. TYPICALLY. OKAY. SO I, I THINK THE WAY THIS WOULD WORK WITH THIS MANAGER, THIRD PARTY MANAGER GROUP, YOU'D ALLOW ACCESS FOR FOUR MORE HOURS AFTER THE STAFF RETIRES FOR THE DAY. OKAY. AND I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THE MORNING HOURS, BUT IF IT'S AT 8 A.M, STAFF WOULD BE THERE BY 8 A.M. OKAY, LET ME POSE A QUESTION TO STAFF, THOUGH. I DON'T SEE ANYTHING, ALTHOUGH AGAIN, I MAY HAVE MISSED IT. THAT ACTUALLY TALKS ABOUT HOURS OF OPERATION AND THE LIMITATION TEXT. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WOULD NORMALLY BE SPECIFIED? NO.
OKAY. AND SO IF THEY WERE TO CHANGE THEIR MODEL AT SOME POINT, WANT TO BE 24 ACCESS HOUR ACCESS, THEY TECHNICALLY COULD DO THAT WITHOUT VIOLATING THE LIMITATION TEXT. IS THAT RIGHT? SO WHAT WE COVER IS THE LAND USE RIGHT FOR THIS BOARD. THIS PANEL IS BASICALLY LAND USE, RIGHT. IF WE ALSO CAN DISCUSS DESIGN ALONG WITH THAT LAND USE. BUT WE'RE BASICALLY A LAND USE BOARD. AND SO AFTER THIS STEP THEN OUR RECOMMENDATION GOES TO THE DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION. RIGHT.
OKAY. MY QUESTION WAS ABOUT WHETHER HOURS OF OPERATION COULD BE CHANGED TO A 24 HOUR OPERATION WITHOUT CHANGING THE ZONING TEXT. THAT'S OUTSIDE OF OUR PURVIEW, NOT WITHIN THIS PANEL'S PURVIEW. I IT SEEMS TO ME IF IT'S NOT IN THE ZONING TEXT, I MY EXPERIENCE WITH THE DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION IS THEY'LL FIND THEMSELVES SIMILARLY LIMITED IN TERMS OF THEIR ABILITY TO IMPOSE ANY LIMITS ON THE HOURS OF OPATION.ER B YOUUT REALLDON'TY NY COMNT ONMEHAT, I TS RIGHIGHTAT CORRE?.CT OKAY. ALL T. IHINK THOSE A T MYRE ESTIONQUS. THANK Y.OU I HAVENE .ON THE RED BRI.CKHAT W MARIAL ATERE YOUROPOSI PNG FOR TH? AATND ISHAT T ANPPLIED A ODUCT.PRS I IT A FERIB PDUCT.RO ATWHRE YOU AHAT W A YOURE OKING LO PROVIATNG? IDIELIEVE B IT'S A SANDSNE BRITO.CK SO ISIT ARUE TENEER VRICK. BES. YT'S I AT WEWH JUSMETT WH OURIT NSTRUCCOON GTIUPRO THISORNING M ANTHEYD WERE COMMEING ONTN TH.AT THANK Y.OU YEAH. NICE T THINOUSE FOLKS AGA.IN DON'T I DURINGK THE LTAS MEETI ANDTHOURS O HFPERATI OON CAME U. I UERSTANNDD IT'NOTS THIS BOD'SAR PURVI,EWUT B A.M. 6DAN . I IMMEDTELY TIAUGHTHO OF DECIE NOISE. IS THERE ANY LBE SDIESTU OR. I DON'T CREAYOU INULD BWOAE IG NOI BSE R,TO BUTHE T DR'SOO COMING ANDUP DR'SOOOING G DN. ANDOW, DRIVH TSE AREHEYPICAL TLY BELT E DRS,OOND A THERE VERY'Y UNLE MY OIKWN GARAGE.
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HAVE BEEN IN 2021, LATE 2021. AND WE JUST FELT REALLY SECURE THAT IT WASN'T COMMERCIAL AT ALL. THERE WERE SOME APARTMENTS ACROSS THE STREET, BUT THEY WERE SO WELL DONE AND I HATE TO SAY IT, PART OF OUR ISSUE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ANY OF THIS. NONE OF US KNOW WHAT THIS APARTMENT IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE. NONE OF US WERE NOTIFIED. I AIN'T SAYING IT. IT'S YOU GUYS.IT COULD BE OUR HOA DID NOT INFORM ANY OF US. IT COULD BE THAT NONE OF US WERE LIVING THERE YET. WE HAVE NO IDEA IF THAT BRICK THAT HE SHOWED IS GOING TO MATCH THE APARTMENT. WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. BREAKING MY HEART, HONESTLY. BUT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS CALLED THE PRESERVE AT ROCKY FORK, AND THE NAME ITSELF SAYS PRESERVE. SO WE FELT LIKE WE WERE IN A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. SO NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT CONSTRUCTION OF A 300 UNIT APARTMENT COMPLEX, A TWO STORY BUILDING OF A POSSIBLE STORAGE FACILITY THAT I DO WONDER WHEN YOU KEEP SAYING IT'S NEEDED IF YOU HAVE STUDIES. I HAVE HEARD MY HUSBAND'S IN DEVELOPMENT, THAT INTEL IS MANY MORE YEARS AWAY THAN WE THINK, AND I JUST DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED ALL THE APARTMENTS AND STUFF RIGHT NOW WHERE WE'RE AT, OR IF THEY NEED TO GO SOMEWHERE ELSE.
THEY'RE PROBABLY NEEDED. I'M SURE YOU HAVE YOUR YOUR BACKING, BUT WHEN WE HEARD THAT THERE WAS SOME REZONING, SOME QUESTIONS WERE RAISED BY MYSELF AND THE NEIGHBORS. IS HARLEM ROAD GOING TO START TO LOOK LIKE HAMILTON? HAMILTON IS NOTHING BUT COMMERCIAL. COMMERCIAL COMMERCIAL GAS STATIONS. THERE'S A NEW STORAGE FACILITY THAT JUST OPENED. THERE'S ANOTHER ONE A MILE TO THE NORTH OF US. IT LOOKS LIKE A COMMERCIAL AREA WITH APARTMENTS BEHIND IT, AND IF THERE ARE RESIDENTS, THEY'RE KIND OF TUCKED AWAY BEHIND. I JUST FEEL LIKE HARLEM ROAD HAS ALWAYS BEEN RESIDENTIAL. IS IT POSSIBLE THAT YOU COULD CHANGE WHERE YOU'RE DOING IT? WE'RE NOT SAYING THAT THE NEED ISN'T THERE, BUT WAS IT TOO EXPENSIVE TO MAYBE DO IT ON HAMILTON? AND SO THAT'S WHY YOU'RE LOOKING AT HARLEM. ANOTHER REAL CONCERN IS TRAFFIC. WE WERE TOLD THERE WASN'T A TRAFFIC STUDY, BUT WHEN WE MOVED IN RIGHT AWAY, MY HUSBAND AND I WERE SHOCKED THAT THERE WASN'T A TURN LANE INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. THERE IS NOT A TURN LANE. THERE'S A TURN LANE INTO PRESTON HOLLOW FROM BOTH THE NORTH AND THE SOUTH. THERE'S NOT ONE AT ALL INTO THE PRESERVE. THERE COULD BE 300 TO 600 CARS ADDED TO AN APARTMENT COMPLEX, RIGHT? IF THERE'S SINGLE FAMILY, THEY MIGHT HAVE. I MEAN, THEY'RE MULTIFAMILY, BUT A FAMILY ALONE COULD HAVE TWO CARS. SO THERE'S A LOT OF CONCERN ABOUT THE TRAFFIC BACKING UP WHEN THEY'RE AT THAT INTERSECTION. BECAUSE IF YOU'VE BEEN AT THE INTERSECTION OF CENTRAL COLLEGE AND HARLEM, YOU CAN HARDLY MAKE A TURN. IT'S BACKED UP NOW. I CAN'T IMAGINE WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE LIKE FOR AMBIEN. OF COURSE, SELFISH TO GET OUT IN THE MORNING TO GO TO WORK BECAUSE IT'S BACKED UP NOW AND THAT'S NOT AN APARTMENT COMING AND GOING. I AGREE WITH YOU TOTALLY. STORAGE FACILITIES DON'T GENERATE TRAFFIC. 300 UNIT APARTMENTS DO. SO WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. WE ALSO FEEL THAT THE SPEED LIMIT SHOULD BE LOWERED. IT SEEMS A LITTLE HIGH FOR HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE LIVING THERE. AND PEOPLE IN APARTMENTS FOR SOME REASON LOVE TO GET DOGS. IT'S NOT FAIR. I DON'T AGREE WITH IT. I LOVE DOGS, BUT WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO WALK? I'M SURE THERE'S A SIDEWALK, BUT THEY MIGHT COME IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. AND THEN THE LITTLE PUPPY GOES POTTY. SO WE'RE GOING TO SEE SOME OF THAT. SO THAT'S A CONCERN. THERE IS ALSO A CONCERN OF LIGHT AND NOISE POLLUTION. I THINK YOU GUYS HAVE MENTIONED THAT I MENTIONED THIS ONLY BECAUSE IN ERIE COUNTY, WHERE I'M FROM IN HURON, MUCCI FARMS, A CANADIAN. FARMING COMPLEX, WAS BUILT AND AFTER IT WAS BUILT, NOBODY REALIZED THAT THEY TURNED ON THE LIGHT. IT'S AN INDOOR GREENHOUSE. IT'S SORT OF LIKE EPCOT, AND THEY DO LIKE BANANAS AND CABBAGE. AND IT WAS LIKE ULTRA MODERN AND COOL. BUT NOBODY REALIZED THAT WHEN THEY TURNED ON THE LIGHTS, EVERYBODY COULD SEE IT. IT LOOKED LIKE THE NORTHERN LIGHTS. AND SO THEY HAD TO, LIKE, GO BACK AND FIGHT TO GET THESE BLACKOUT LIGHTS OR, YOU KNOW, COVERINGS ADDED. SO WE'RE HOPING THAT THIS IS AT THE END OF THE LINE IF ISSUES COME UP LIKE, OH MY GOD, THE LIGHTS ARE VERY, VERY BRIGHT. SO WE DO WORRY ABOUT THE LIGHTS. CONCERN ALSO IS THIRD SPACE AND THERE DOESN'T SEEM TO BE A LOT OF THIRD SPACES. WE TRY TO MAKE THEM IN AMERICA BECAUSE WE JUST DON'T HAVE THEM. WE MAKE LIKE AN EASTERN WHERE WE PUT RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL TOGETHER, AND THEN WE HAVE CUTE SPACES THAT ARE CONSIDERED THIRD SPACES. THERE DOESN'T SEEM TO BE A CONSIDERATION FOR THAT VERY MUCH IN THIS AREA. AND NOW THAT IT'S CHANGING, I KNOW YOU DON'T OWN MR. SINGER'S MAN LAND, BUT COULD THIS BOARD MAYBE. IF THAT'S YOUR RESPONSIBILITY, CONSIDER NOT LETTING IT GO. COMMERCIAL. I
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CAN'T IMAGINE A BANK BEING THERE AND PEOPLE LIKE TELLING, HEY, CAN YOU DO YOUR DEPOSIT TO THIS ACCOUNT? A LITTLE PARK MIGHT BE NICE GREEN SPACE. THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE IN THIS AREA. IT JUST SEEMS LIKE. THE REZONING OF SOMETHING IN A LARGE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD DOESN'T. IT DOESN'T MAKE A LOT OF SENSE TO ME. IS HOW I FEEL. AND I KNOW MY NEIGHBORS FEEL THE SAME. WE MENTIONED MOUNDING. THE MOUNDING THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS IF YOU LOOK AT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, IT WOULD CUT QUITE A BIT OF YOUR FRONTAGE THAT MOUNDING WHEN YOU DRIVE ON HARLEM, YOU CAN HARDLY SEE OUR HOUSES. THAT'S WHAT I THINK WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS MOUNDING NOT MOUNDING IN LANDSCAPE. LITERALLY MOVE YOUR SETBACK AND MOUND IT SO THAT YOU REALLY CAN'T SEE THE BUILDING, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S THE RENDERING WE SAW. OR I'M JUST SAYING THE MOUNDING IS KIND OF I THINK IT GOT LOST IN TRANSLATION. WE DO MEAN IF YOU DROVE IT, IT'S A VERY LARGE MOUND, LIKE ALMOST LIKE A DUNE. THE TAXES AS WELL. WE DO WORRY A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE VALUE OF OUR PROPERTY. I KNOW THAT RESIDENTIAL BUILDING IS GOOD, AND IT BRINGS TAXES THAT WE GET TO USE TO MAKE EVERYTHING BETTER. BUT THERE, YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THESE ITEMS. AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. WE WERE ABLE, YOU KNOW, TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THEM. I JUST WOULD REALLY RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR MY NEIGHBORS THAT YOU CONSIDER THESE THINGS AND NOT MOVE FORWARD WITHOUT HAVING TRAFFIC STUDY DONE, ZONING AND INFRASTRUCTURE CONSIDERATION FOR THE AREA, AND NOT TAKE WHAT I SEE AS MOSTLY A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. AND IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THIS ENVIRONMENT LOOKS LIKE. I ONLY KNOW THAT YOU KNOW, WHO CARES? IT'S JUST ME. BUT THIS MORNING I WAS LOOKING OUT MY BACK AT THE SUNRISE AND IT'S GOING TO BE GONE. LIKE, IT'S GONE. AND THE TREES HAVE BEEN TRIMMED BACK. AND THAT'S NOT YOU GUYS. MAYBE IT WAS YOU GUYS. NOBODY TOLD US. BUT IT'S REALLY, REALLY SAD TO SEE THIS THREE UNIT COMPLEX COMING THERE. CAN'T STOP IT. IT'S HAPPENING. BUT WE AT LEAST CAN MAKE THIS LOOK MAYBE A LITTLE BETTER BECAUSE IT'S CLOSE TO US. THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. AND THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. YOU DID GREAT. AND THIS IS MY FIRST TIME CHAIRING THIS BOARD, SO WE'RE ALL LEARNING TOGETHER. THANK YOU. THANKS. ANYBODY ELSE? YES YEAH I HAVE. DIANE STRONG STURM. YES. THANK YOU. THANKS. HI. MY NAME IS DIANE STURM. SO I LIVE IN PRESERVE OF ROCKY FORK. ALSO I'M ON LAURA DEAN DRIVE, WHICH IS ACTUALLY THE NORTHERN PART OF THAT DEVELOPMENT. SO SIMILAR TO THESE PARCELS HERE TO THE SOUTH OF OUR DEVELOPMENT, WE HAVE BASICALLY THE SAME SITUATION TO THE NORTH. RIGHT NOW THERE ARE SINGLE FAMILY PARCELS, QUITE A BIT OF LAND THAT JUST HAS SINGLE FAMILY HOMES TO THE NORTH. SO WHEREAS THIS DOESN'T DIRECTLY IMPACT MY SITE, MY CONCERN IS THE PRECEDENT THAT WE'RE SETTING OF REZONING THIS AREA. AND THEN THAT COULD HAPPEN ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE DEVELOPMENT AS WELL. SO I'M CONCERNED ABOUT JUST THE LONG TERM PLAN FOR HARLEM ROAD IN GENERAL. MY HUSBAND AND I MOVED HERE FIVE YEARS AGO FROM THE CLEVELAND AREA. IT WAS WE THOUGHT IT WAS A RESIDENTIAL AREA, THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE A NEIGHBORHOOD, AND WE JUST SEE THE TIDE TURNING IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION. AND THAT'S FINE.WE'LL KNOW WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH AT SOME POINT HERE RATHER SOON. I THINK THE APARTMENTS KIND OF ALREADY DID THAT, BUT THIS IS DEFINITELY COMMERCIAL. SO THAT TO ME SETS THE PRECEDENT, PERHAPS THAT IT COULD HAPPEN. FOLKS ACROSS THE STREET. RIGHT. THEY HAVE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES AS WELL. AT SOME POINT THEY COULD SELL, AND THEN THE PEOPLE TO THE NORTH COULD ALSO SELL. SO WHAT IS THE LONG TERM PLAN FOR THIS URBAN SPRAWL THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH HERE? I KEEP HEARING THE TERM RURAL AND IT IT'S NOT RURAL ANYMORE. I DON'T FEEL LIKE IT IS. I MEAN, IT'S A TWO LANE ROAD THAT NOW HAS ALL THESE PEOPLE FUNNELING AND IT'S 45 MILES AN HOUR. IT'S VERY BUSY. SO ARE THERE GOING TO BE TURNING LANES INTO THE APARTMENTS AND THE STORAGE UNIT,
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OR IS IT STILL JUST A TWO LANE ROAD? DOES ANYONE KNOW? I DON'T KNOW, IT'S GOING TO BE A PROBLEM. AND I MEAN TRAFFIC ALREADY BACKS UP AT THE INTERSECTION OF HARLEM AND COLLEGE CENTRAL OR. YEAH. SO TRAFFIC IS DEFINITELY A CONCERN. SAFETY IS A CONCERN. IS THERE A TURNING LANE? WILL THERE BE MORE CONSTRUCTION THAN TO WIDEN THE ROAD. AND THEN TO MY NEIGHBORS TO THE NORTH IF THEY WANT TO SELL AND THAT LAND GETS REZONED, IS THAT A POSSIBILITY AS WELL? BECAUSE IT JUST CHANGES THE WHOLE VIBE. AND THEN THE OTHER CONCERN IS FOR THE BUILDING MATERIALS OF THE STORAGE UNIT. DOES THAT COMPLEMENT THE APARTMENTS? BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE APARTMENTS, WHAT THE MATERIAL IS, BUT I WOULDN'T THINK WE'D WANT THAT TO CLASH. I DON'T WANT TO. I'M TRYING NOT TO BE REDUNDANT HERE. LET ME SEE IF I HAVE ANYTHING ELSE. I WILL JUST SAY TO HAVING MOVED FROM THREE ONE. I PAID TWICE AS MUCH FOR MY HOUSE HERE THAT I PAID FOR IN CLEVELAND. MY PROPERTY TAXES ARE ALMOST THREE TIMES AS MUCH, AND I DON'T. I DON'T EVEN REALLY LEGALLY OWN THE LAND THAT OUR HOUSE IS ON. SO THE COST OF LIVING HERE IS MUCH MORE. WE'VE INVESTED A LOT MORE IN OUR PROPERTY, AND I JUST KIND OF FEEL I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON FROM AN INVESTMENT PERSPECTIVE. THANK YOU. THANKS FOR SURE. OKAY. AS YOU MAY REMEMBER, BECAUSE SHE'S SO GOOD. MY ONE QUESTION IS OR MY ONE SUGGESTION, MAYBE IT'S NOT A QUESTION. SO I'M CONCERNED THAT DEVELOPERS AND THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH COMMERCIAL JUST DEVELOPERS IN GENERAL. I DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY GO BECAUSE I DON'T UNDERSTAND ALL THIS AS WELL AS I SHOULD, BUT PULTE, I'LL JUST SAY IT BECAUSE THAT'S WHO I BOUGHT IT FROM, WAS ALLOWED TO SELL ME A LOT FOR $10,000 MORE THAN EVERYONE ELSE PAID, BECAUSE IT SAID IT HAD TREES. AND NOW I FIND OUT WHEN THIS CONSTRUCTION STARTED THAT I JUST HAVE A VIEW. SO WHERE DOES SOMEBODY COME IN AND SAY TO A DEVELOPER, WHAT ARE YOUR LOTS? WHY IS THERE A DIFFERENCE? ARE THEY BIGGER? THESE AREN'T. OH, SO WHY IS THIS ONE 10,000 MORE? WELL, THEY HAVE TREES. THEY DON'T EVEN OWN THE TREES THAT THEY SOLD ME AND NOW THEY'RE GONE. SO THIS IS MAYBE A WHOLE NOTHER TOPIC, BUT I JUST WANT TO PUT IT OUT THERE. I THINK MAYBE THIS AREA IS GROWING FASTER THAN ALL OF US CAN HANDLE RIGHT NOW. BUT I WANTED THESE CONCERNS ADDRESSED BECAUSE THE DEVELOPERS SEEM TO NOT ANSWER OUR QUESTIONS WHEN WE ASKED. THEY'RE LIKE, NO, THERE'S NO PLANS FOR ANYTHING THERE. I'M SORRY. I THINK THIS APARTMENT DIDN'T POP UP IN THE LAST YEAR, SO THAT'S ANOTHER SIDE I JUST FEEL LIKE I, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE HOMEOWNER. REPRESENTED MAYBE A LITTLE MORE THAN THE DEVELOPER OR AT LEAST EQUAL. AND IT SORT OF FEELS LIKE WE WEREN'T. AND I'M NOT POINTING FINGERS, BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVEN DEVELOPMENT RESIDENTIALLY, EVEN THOUGH WE WOULD PREFER THAT, IS THERE A LITTLE BIT TRANSPARENT WITH WHAT THEY'RE SELLING? BECAUSE AND COMMUNICATING WITH US, I HAD NO IDEA THOSE HOMES WERE SOLD WHEN WE, YOU KNOW, STARTED CONSTRUCTION. OKAY. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? THAT'S ALL. OH, OH. IF YOU COULD JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS BRETT GRIFFIN. I LIVE AT 6637 LIGHT CHASE STREET. SO THIS WOULD BE MY BACKYARD. AND I DO WANT TO TAKE THIS CHANCE TO SAY THIS TO YOU PEOPLE. I ABSOLUTELY RESENT THAT YOU ALLOWED A 300 COM APARTMENT BUILDING IN MY BACKYARD AND NOBODY KNEW ABOUT IT. YOU WOULD THINK THAT NOBODY WOULD SHOW UP TO SAY, HEY, THAT'S A TERRIBLE IDEA. WE NEVER GOT NOTIFIED UNTIL THE SECOND PHASE WENT IN. THAT'S WHEN WE GOT NOTIFIED. AND I'M GUESSING I DIDN'T GET NOTIFIED ABOUT THIS BECAUSE I'M NOT WITHIN 125FT. THE PART THAT THEY'RE KEEPING IS PROBABLY 125FT FROM IT. SO I'M GUESSING I NEVER DID GET NOTIFIED ABOUT THIS. SO THAT'S, YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T WANT TO LET THIS GO WITHOUT SAYING. I ABSOLUTELY RESENT WHAT YOU GUYS DID THERE. THIS HAS MADE THIS PROPERTY MUCH WORSE. AND I'M VERY UPSET ABOUT IT, OBVIOUSLY, BECAUSE NORMALLY I WOULDN'T EVEN[00:45:01]
GET UP AND TALK TO YOU PEOPLE. BUT I DID WANT TO TELL YOU DON'T APPRECIATE IT AND IT AND I DO APPRECIATE MR. PAUL'S COMMENT REGARDING THE HOURS OF OPERATION, WHAT IS HOLDING THESE PEOPLE TO BEING A GOOD NEIGHBOR? THAT'S A QUESTION THAT I HAVE TO ASK BECAUSE HE'S ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. 6 A.M. 10 P.M. WHAT HAPPENS IF THIS DOESN'T WORK OUT FOR THESE GUYS? WHAT HAPPENS THEN? HEY, WE NEED TO OPERATE 24 HOURS A DAY. WE NEED TO DO OTHER THINGS TO GET MORE BUSINESS BECAUSE WE AREN'T. IT'S NOT GOING WELL. THESE GUYS ARE THE DEVELOPERS, PEOPLE THAT ARE RUNNING IT. DO WE EVEN KNOW WHO'S RUNNING IT? YEAH, WE, THE PEOPLE WHO ARE RUNNING IT AREN'T EVEN HERE TO TALK TO US ABOUT THIS. SO, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT CERTAIN THAT THIS IS A GREAT IDEA, NOT TO MENTION THE FACT THAT WE'RE GOING TO LEAVE A TINY SLIVER OF PROPERTY SITTING UP HERE BEHIND MY HOUSE. WHAT HAPPENS TO THAT TINY SLIVER? WHAT HAPPENS TO IT? DOES IT BECOME A GREAT GAS STATION? I DON'T WANT A GAS STATION IN MY BACKYARD. WILL I EVEN GET NOTIFIED THAT IT'S ABOUT TO HAPPEN? NO ANSWERS. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY ANYONE ELSE? BARBARA? BARBARA BOSSON, I'M AT FIVE NINE, EIGHT SIX. LORI. DAN DRIV. AND MUCH LIKE HER, WE MOVED FROM SENECA LAKE TO BE CLOSER TO OUR KIDS. AS WE GET OLDER. AND WHEN WE FOUND THE DEVELOPMENT, WE THOUGHT IT LOOKED LIKE A PRETTY LITTLE PLACE TO SETTLE DOWN. AND I'M UPSET ABOUT THE APARTMENTS AND A STORAGE UNIT. IT JUST DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THE PRETTY LITTLE PLACE WE ENVISION TO SPEND THE REST OF OUR TIME. AND I'M SAD. I'M WORRIED LIKE SOME OF THE OTHER ONES. WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN ON THE OTHER SIDE? AND I. I JUST WORRY ABOUT COMMERCIALIZING IN THAT AREA. SO THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? OKAY. SO WE'LL WE'LL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT FOR NOW. THANK YOU ALL FOR SPEAKING. IT SEEMS LIKE OF COURSE THIS BOARD IS HERE TO REVIEW THE SELF STORAGE APPLICATION. BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THE RESIDENTS CONCERNS ARE MORE OF THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS AS A WHOLE, AND ESPECIALLY SPECIFICALLY ON HARLEM ROAD. I DON'T WANT TO PUT STAFF ON THE SPOT TOO MUCH, BUT I KNOW COLUMBUS IS GOING THROUGH SOME SIGNIFICANT ZONING CHANGES. IS THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN PREDICTED TO BE MORE COMMERCIALIZED ALONG HARLEM ROAD? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE ABLE TO SHARE, OR IS THAT UNKNOWN TODAY THAT IS UNKNOWN AT THIS MOMENT? OKAY, JUST HEARING FROM EVERYBODY'S FEEDBACK, IT SEEMS LIKE THIS IS MORE OF A BIGGER PICTURE CONCERN, NOT NOT ONLY JUST THIS USE, BUT EVERYTHING ELSE THAT GOES AROUND IT. IF I COULD MENTION, MADAM CHAIR, THE AREA TO THE SOUTH OF THIS PROJECT IS WITHIN A AREA PLAN CALLED THE NORTHLAND PLAN TWO. I KNOW A LOT OF FOLKS ARE GOING, WAIT A MINUTE, THAT'S NOT WHERE WE ARE. BUT NORTHLAND COMMUNITY COUNCIL FOR MANY YEARS HAD BEEN THE ADVISORY BODY SIMILAR TO THIS ONE THAT HAD ADVISED THE CITY ON ZONING ISSUES WITHIN THE NORTHLAND AREA. AND AS THE AREA TO THE EAST WAS BEING DEVELOPED, WE WERE ASKED TO ASSUME THE SAME ROLE. HOWEVER, OUR NORTHERN BOUNDARY IS CENTRAL COLLEGE. THE LAND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE HAS RECENTLY BEEN ANNEXED, SO IT'S NOT ACTUALLY PART OF THE NORTHLAND COMMUNITY COUNCIL'S SERVICE AREA FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AND HEARING AND THAT SORT OF THING. AND IT'S NOT CONTAINED, STRICTLY SPEAKING, WITHIN AN AREA PLAN, THERE IS AN AREA PLAN FOR COMMUNITIES TO THE SOUTH OF CENTRAL COLLEGE, TO THE NEW ALBANY LIMIT. AND GENERALLY SPEAKING, THAT PLAN DOES CALL FOR RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. IT DOES RECOGNIZE THE NEED FOR ADDITIONAL MULTIFAMILY, BUT PROBABLY NOT TO THE DEGREE THAT WE NEED IT NOW. BUT IT I DON'T KNOW THAT IT ADDRESSES SPECIFICALLY THE USE THAT'S BEING TALKED ABOUT HERE IN THE COMMUNITIES TO THE SOUTH OF CENTRAL COLLEGE, BUT THERE IS NO AREA PLAN FOR NORTH OF CENTRAL COLLEGE BECAUSE IT'S TECHNICALLY WAS NOT PART OF THE CITY OF COLUMBUS WHEN WE DEVELOPED THAT AREA PLAN. SO THAT ANSWERS THE[00:50:03]
QUESTION. I THINK THAT WAS POSED IS SORT OF WHAT'S THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP SAY IT SHOULD BE HERE. THERE ISN'T ONE IN TERMS OF OUR AREA PLAN IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT HELPS OR NOT. I APPRECIATE THE CLARIFICATION. BUT WILL THERE BE WE, YOU KNOW, OUR TAXING JURISDICTION IS HOMELESS. SO COULD YOU GO UP TO THE MICROPHONE? I THINK IF WE WANT TO REOPEN, I'M CURIOUS, LIKE WILL THERE BE A PLAN BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE YOU WOULD WANT A PLAN SINCE THINGS ARE BEING DEVELOPED LIKE LITERALLY AS WE SPEAK, AND IT IS CITY OF COLUMBUS, THAT'S WHERE WE PAY OUR INCOME TAX. SO DO THE TAXPAYERS NOT DESERVE SOME SORT OF PLAN NORTH OF COLLEGE CENTRAL? THAT WOULD BE A VERY GOOD QUESTION FOR THE CITY OF COLUMBUS PLANNING DIVISION. THEY WORKED WITH US. THAT IS, THE COMMUNITIES IN THE AREA SOUTH OF CENTRAL COLLEGE. AND AGAIN, THE NORTHLAND COMMUNITY COUNCIL AND OTHER GROUPS TO DEVELOP PLANS THAT EXIST. THE PLANNING DOCUMENT FORMAT HAS CHANGED OVER THE YEARS, BUT I THAT WOULD BE A GOOD QUESTION FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING OR DIVISION OF PLANNING AT THE DEPARTMENT OF DEVELOPMENT IN COLUMBUS. I CAN'T ANSWER THAT ON THEIR BEHALF. YEAH, OKAY. THANK YOU. SO ARE WE AT THE WRONG PLACE? I MEAN, HONESTLY, WE NEED TO GO TO THIS COLUMBUS CITY. SO HERE'S MY ONE QUESTION. OR WESTERN, LIKE, WHO DO WE GO TO? MY HUSBAND'S A DEVOUT RUNNER, AND THERE ARE RUNNING PATHS IN THIS NEW ALBANY AREA. AND THERE'S RUNNING PATHS ALL OVER WESTERVILLE, WHICH ACTUALLY WAS AWARDED ONE OF THE HEALTHIEST CITIES. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS KNOW THAT A FEW YEARS AGO, BECAUSE OF WHAT THEY OFFER IN THE COUNTRY, BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY RUNNING PATHS AND BIKING, THERE'S NOT EVEN BIKE LANES HERE. AND THERE USED TO BE BIKERS WHEN WE FIRST MOVED IN, BUT IT IS SCARY NOW. SO PART OF THAT PLAN TOO, BESIDES THE ZONING, IS QUALITY OF LIFE.THIRD SPACE LIKE I BROUGHT UP AND MY HUSBAND HAS TO DRIVE EVERY DAY TO RUN ON A RUNNING PATH. LIKE I CAN'T EVEN WALK TO MY FRIEND THAT LIVES ON WALNUT BECAUSE IT'S SO DANGEROUS. AND THERE'S THIS LITTLE THING, THERE'S A SLIP HERE AND A SLIP HERE OF SIDEWALKS. SO SHOULD WE GO TO THE COLUMBUS CITY PLANNING OR IS IT WESTERVILLE? LIKE, WHO DO WE GO TO ABOUT THE PLAN? SURE. SO I WOULD LIKE TO CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT, BUT I DO WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT YOU'RE NOT AT THE WRONG PLACE. I MEAN, THIS IS IMPORTANT THAT YOU GUYS ARE HERE SINCE THIS IS THE THIS IS AN APPLICATION, RIGHT, RIGHT AROUND YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD. I WILL SAY FOR ANYTHING REGIONAL OR LONG TERM PLANNING, THIS IS NOT THE BOARD FOR THAT. BUT I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO CONTACT COLUMBUS STAFF AS THEY HAVE BEEN DOING SOME COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT WITH THE ZONING CHANGES. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO ELABORATE ANYTHING MORE TO THAT, BUT I DON'T THINK YOU'RE AT THE WRONG PLACE. SURE. SO THIS IS A QUASI JURISDICTIONAL BOARD. SO MEANING THAT WE HAVE PLAIN TOWNSHIP, NEW ALBANY AND COLUMBUS HERE. AND WE'RE MAKING DECISIONS REGARDING LAND USE WITHIN A SPECIFIED AREA THAT TOUCHES ALL OF THOSE PLACES. AS MR. PAUL MENTIONED, A LOT OF LAND HAS BEEN ANNEXED INTO THE CITY OF COLUMBUS, WHICH MAKES A DIFFERENCE IN HOW THAT COMES IN AS RURAL WHEN IT'S ANNEXED IN. AND THEN WE GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS OF REZONING IT TO SOMETHING, SOMETHING ELSE.
SO WHAT? I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT WE'RE JUST THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. BUT I THINK THE COUNTY AND THE CITY. AND WE DO HAVE SOME RESOURCES THAT I CAN SHARE WITH YOU WHERE YOU CAN FIGURE OUT WHERE YOU ARE. YOU KNOW, WHAT PLAN IS DICTATING WHAT YOU CAN DO WITH YOUR LAND. I CAN SHARE THAT WE HAVE RESOURCES WHERE YOU CAN ACTUALLY TRACK APPLICATIONS. FOR EXAMPLE, YOU CAN TRACK THIS APPLICATION THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS. SO IT'S THE APPLICANT SUBMITS TO OUR BOARD OF ZONING SERVICES. THEY PUT THE APPLICATION TOGETHER. WHAT YOU SEE FOR EXAMPLE THIS SITE PLAN THEY PUT THAT PACKET TOGETHER AND THEN THAT PACKET IS THEN SHARED WITH STAFF ACROSS THE CITY. SO THE PLANNING DIVISION, IT MAY BE TRANSPORTATION, IT MAY BE SEWER.
WHOEVER NEEDS TO BE INVOLVED. AND EVERYONE THEN MAKES COMMENTS ON THAT APPLICATION. THAT APPLICATION GETS PUT TOGETHER, DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION PRESENTS THAT. AND THEN ONCE THEY MAKE A DECISION, IT'S PRESENTED TO CITY COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL OR NOT. SO THIS IS JUST THE FIRST PHASE IN HEARING ABOUT THIS PROJECT, BUT IT WILL MOVE ON AND OUT DEPENDING, YOU KNOW. SO MAYBE AT
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THE END OF THIS MEETING WE CAN CONNECT WITH YOU TO SHARE THE RESOURCES AND LET YOU KNOW THAT HOW YOU CAN BE MORE INVOLVED AND ENGAGED WITH THIS AREA. AND TO ADD ABOUT THE ZONING UPDATE. SO THE CITY OF COLUMBUS DID ZONE ONE ZONE IN WAS THE FIRST PHASE JUST ON OUR CORRIDORS. BUT THAT'S JUST OUR INITIAL PROJECT. BUT WE ARE MOVING TO HAVE OTHER PHASES OF THAT AND THAT'S FORTHCOMING. THANK YOU. IF I MAY JUST ADD ONE COMMENT, LORI, RELATIVE TO WHERE YOU LIVE, I ASSUME THERE'S AN HOA AND JUST BEING IN THE CITY, NEW ALBANY AND HAVING DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES WITH THE HOA BOARD, THE PRESIDENT, I THINK REPRESENTING YOU AND TAKING YOUR CONCERNS RELATIVE TO WHAT MAY HAPPEN TO THE NORTH, BEING MORE INVOLVED WITH WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE APARTMENTS, THOSE CONVERSATIONS, IF YOU GET MASS RESIDENTS, THEN THEY CAN GO OUT AND FIND THESE, FIND ISSUES OR FIND WHERE APPLICATIONS ARE BEING SUBMITTED FOR DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENT. BUT I WOULD DEFINITELY HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH YOUR HOA AND I WOULD SECOND THAT. THAT'S THE BASIS OF THE NORTH END COMMUNITY COUNCIL. OUR COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS SUCH AS HOA AND CONDOMINIUM ASSOCIATIONS AND OTHER COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS. SO I AGREE WITH THAT COMMENT.AND IF I COULD JUST ADD ALSO THIS APPLICATION, ALONG WITH WHO WAS CONTACTED ABOUT THIS APPLICATION IS ALL PUBLICLY AVAILABLE. HE HAS. FOR THAT STUFF. YEAH. SERIOUSLY, DO YOU THINK I SEARCHED WEBSITES FOR THAT STUFF? SERIOUSLY, YOU JUST ACTED LIKE I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING. DO YOU THINK I SEARCH WEBSITES FOR THAT? YEAH, IT IS PUBLICLY AVAILABLE. I WOULD KNOW TO LOOK FOR IT. WHY WOULD I GO LOOKING FOR IT? WELL, IN THEIR DEFENSE, THERE WAS A SIGN POSTED ON THE PROPERTY, WHICH IS HOW I FOUND OUT ABOUT IT. SO MAKE SURE YOU LOOKED UP THE PARCEL NUMBER.
INVESTIGATE THAT. I JUST I'M SORRY EVERYBODY, SINCE THE PUBLIC COMMENT IS CLOSED, YOU KNOW, THE EVERY MUNICIPALITY DOES THE LEGAL REQUIREMENTS AS FAR AS NOTIFICATIONS GO. IF AGAIN, WE DO OFFER AVAILABLE MORE ACCESSIBLE RESOURCES ON THEIR WEBSITES, BUT THE LEGAL REQUIREMENTS FOR NOTIFICATIONS WAS COMPLETED. IS THAT CORRECT? THANK YOU. DOES THE PANEL HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS? I HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION AND I TNK IHIT WAS STATED EARLIER, BUT I JUST WANTED TO REFRESH MY MEMORY. WHAT IS IT? WHAT IS THE INTENTION OF IT BEING REZONE TO LIGHT MANUFACTURING? LIGHT MANUFACTURING OR LIMITED MANUFACTURING? LIMITED. YEAH.
LIMITED MANUFACTURING. YES. OKAY. SO A STORAGE UNIT IS CONSIDERED MANUFACTURING FOR THIS APPLICATION. YES OKAY. YES IT IS. OKAY. THANK YOU. A FEW OTHER THINGS I JUST WANTED TO NOTE FROM HEARING FROM THE PUBLIC COMMENT, A TRAFFIC STUDY WOULD BE DONE AT A LATER LEVEL.
IS THAT CORRECT FOR THIS? FOR THIS PROJECT? I WOULD SAY LOOKING AT ONCE IT GOES TO THE DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION. OKAY. SO THIS APPLICATION HAS GONE THROUGHOUT CITY STAFF THAT IT NEEDED TO GO TO, AND WE HAVE A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME TO MAKE COMMENTS ON THOSE APPLICATIONS.
I GUESS IF I MIGHT, AND I PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE BROUGHT THIS UP EARLIER. I BROUGHT UP THE ISSUE ABOUT HOURS OF OPERATION. WOULD IT BE PERMISSIBLE FOR ME TO ASK THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE HERE TODAY WHETHER THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO INCLUDE A LIMITATION ON HOURS OF OPERATION, IF THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT AND IT MAY COME UP AT THE DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION JUST BECAUSE AGAIN, AS IT AS WRITTEN RIGHT NOW, THERE'S NOTHING IN TERMS OF THE LIMITATION TEXT THAT ADDRESSES THAT. WE'RE OPEN TO THE DISCUSSION. YEAH, WE'D CONSIDER IT OKAY. BECAUSE THAT IS ACTUALLY A CONDITION THAT DEVELOPMENT. I'VE HEARD THE DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION IMPOSE ON APPLICATION FOR THEIR APPROVAL IS TO LIMIT HOURS OF OPERATION.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT MIGHT COME UP. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. SURE. SO FOR THE STAFF, SINCE I KNOW THAT'S NOT PART OF OUR REVIEW FOR THIS FOR THIS STAGE OF IT, BUT CAN WE PASS THAT RECOMMENDATION ALONG TO THE NEXT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AS FAR AS THE HOURS OF OPERATION, OR IS THAT THAT WILL BE REFLECTED IN THE MINUTES I'M ASSUMING, TOO. I CAN SHARE THAT WITH LEADERSHIP. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND ANOTHER QUESTION THAT WAS BROUGHT UP. I KNOW THE APARTMENTS WAS WAS STATED FREQUENTLY IS THE ARCHITECTURAL IMPROVEMENTS THAT WERE CHANGES THAT WERE MADE, I GUESS RELATIVE OR COMPARABLE TO THE APARTMENT COMPLEX DESIGN?
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ARE YOU ASKING? OH NO, SORRY I'M ASKING. COMMENT ON THAT. SO THE LAST TIME WE LOOKED AT WHAT WAS BEING PROPOSED, IT WAS A LOT OF GLASS AND METAL, I BELIEVE, AND WE SAID, HEY, IS THAT RURAL? AND YOU SAID NO, AND YOU WOULD TAKE ANOTHER LOOK. AND I THINK IT'S AN IMPROVEMENT. BUT I THINK YOU FOCUSED ON THE NEW ALBANY GEORGIAN STYLE. AND I SPECIFICALLY RECALL SAYING, LOOK AT WALNUT STREET AND SOME OF THE RURAL AREAS AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A STORAGE UNIT GOING ON WALNUT STREET IS GOING TO HAVE A SILO, I THINK A DECORATIVE, OF COURSE, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT THAT'S A READILY AVAILABLE ARCHITECTURAL PRODUCT YOU HAVE OR IF THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE YOU CAN WITHOUT GOING THROUGH A LOT OF EFFORT, MAYBE PROPOSE. ONE OF THE OTHER SUGGESTIONS WAS THE FIRE. THE NEW FIRE DEPARTMENT. AND IT'S IF YOU JUST LOOK AT IT, FORGET IT'S A FIRE DEPARTMENT.IT'S VERY COMMERCIAL LOOKING. IT'S ALL BRICK. IT'S FLAT ROOFED. SO YES. DID WE BRING IN? PHOTO THAT WE BROUGHT IN SOME CONTEXT FROM NEW ALBANY TO HELP WITH THIS. SO IS THIS SIMILAR TO THE. IT'S GOT THE HIP ROOFS LIKE THE APARTMENTS DO. THERE IS A BRICK COMPONENT WITH THE APARTMENTS. WE TIED THAT IN AND TRIED TO USE AN ARCHITECTURAL ACCENT PIECE IN THE MIDDLE, WHICH I BELIEVE IS MIGHT BE A LIMESTONE, THAT BEIGE COLOR. SO IT'S WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO DO WAS TO CONFORM TO THE AREA. ANYTHING ELSE IS THIS CONCEPTUAL STILL TONIGHT OR WHAT? WHAT ARE WE ACTUALLY LOOKING TO DO THIS EVENING? IS PRESENTING AS REVIEW AND ACTION.
SO IF THE PANEL DOESN'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, I THINK I THINK THE I'LL JUST MAKE A QUICK COMMENT IF I COULD. SURE. WITH WHAT THEY'VE SHOWN THIS EVENING, I PERSONALLY THINK THAT IT'S MUCH CLOSER TO WHAT I WAS COMMENTING ON THE LAST MEETING. I WAS A LITTLE SURPRISED WHEN THE ONE PERSON FROM THE. OR FROM THE PUBLIC THOUGHT THAT IT SHOULD LOOK MORE LIKE THE PLUMBING STORE DOWN AT THE CORNER, BUT THAT THAT IS A LITTLE MORE RURAL. BUT I THOUGHT THIS KIND OF FIT IN WELL WITH THE BLEND FROM THE NEW ALBANY TO THE COLUMBUS, WITH WHAT'S LEFT OF PLAIN TOWNSHIP IN THE CENTER. BUT WITH THAT BEING SAID, AND I THINK IT'S A MUCH BETTER LOOK BUILDING FOR FIT WISE. I STILL AM HAVING SOME PROBLEMS WITH THE FACT THAT IT'S BEING PUT WHERE IT IS NOW. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE MAIN THOROUGHFARE WHERE YOU'D WANT MOST OF YOUR COMMERCIAL THINGS, BUT IT'S ALREADY BEING BUILT UP A LOT, WOULD BE HAMILTON ROAD BECAUSE YOU HAVE AN ACCESS THERE. HAMILTON ROAD IS ULTIMATELY SUPPOSED TO GO UP TO WALNUT STREET AND CROSS OVER TO AND CONNECTING TO HARLEM ROAD ABOVE ROCKY FORK CREEK, SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO BUILD THE HAVE THE EXPENSE OF A BRIDGE. NOW THAT'S ALL BASICALLY ALSO UP TO THE PEOPLE THAT OWN THE PROPERTY AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE WILLING TO GIVE UP THEIR LAND FOR A ROAD AND ALL THIS KIND OF STUFF. AND BASICALLY ALL OF THE PROPERTY IN THE AREA THAT HASN'T BEEN DEVELOPED IS BASICALLY PLAIN TOWNSHIP AT THE POINT THAT A DEVELOPER BUYS THE PROPERTY, THE FIRST THING THEY DO IS TO CONVERT IT TO THE CITY OF COLUMBUS SO THAT THEY CAN GET WATER AND SEWER, BECAUSE. THE CITY OF COLUMBUS DOES NOT ALLOW, DOESN'T ALLOW WATER AND SEWER, AS I UNDERSTAND, TO THE TO THE TOWNSHIP. SO IF YOU'RE WILLING TO DIG A WELL AND STUFF LIKE THAT, OKAY. THE ALL THE HOUSES ACROSS THE ROAD FROM THIS SITE I'M SURE HAVE WELLS AND THEIR OWN SEWAGE, SEPTIC TANKS AND THINGS OF THAT TYPE. BUT IF THEY WANTED TO TRY TO GET CITY WATER, THEN THEY WOULD HAVE TO ANNEX TO THE CITY OF COLUMBUS. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I, I THINK THAT
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THIS IS A MUCH BETTER PRODUCT THAN WHAT WAS HERE LAST MONTH, BUT I'M STILL LEANING TOWARDS I DON'T THINK THAT THIS IS THE RIGHT BUILDING FOR THIS AREA, BECAUSE IT'S BETWEEN APARTMENTS AND SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES. IF IT IF IT DOES STAY AND WE KIND OF TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, WELL, MAYBE WE COULD MOVE IT FURTHER BACK. WELL, AT THIS POINT IT'S, IT'S STILL RELATIVELY CLOSE TO THE ROAD AND THERE IS NO MOUNTING TO SPEAK OF. BUT THE PEOPLE RIGHT NEXT DOOR, THEY DO HAVE A RATHER LARGE MOUND OUT AT THE ROAD FRONTAGE, WHICH KIND OF SEALS IT OFF SO THAT YOU DON'T NECESSARILY SEE IT. AND I WENT PAST AN AREA NOT TOO LONG AGO WHERE THEY WERE TRYING TO COVER UP SOME. POWER UTILITIES, AND THEY HAD VERY TALL TREES PLANTED ON TOP OF THE MOUNDS. AND I THOUGHT, I'M DRIVING PAST AND I DON'T EVEN SEE, SEE WHAT'S GOING ON THERE, WHICH I THOUGHT WAS RATHER RATHER INTERESTING. SO ANYWAY, WITH THAT ALL BEING SAID, I THINK IT'S A GREAT PRODUCT. IT'S A IF WE'RE IN A DIFFERENT LOCATION, I'D SAY WITHOUT A DOUBT, YES, THAT'S TO GO FOR IT. BUT THEN I THINK AND I DON'T KNOW IF THE PUBLIC KNOWS IT OR NOT, BUT OUR COMMITTEE IS NOT TO SAY YES OR NO. WE'RE AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE SAYING WE THINK THAT THIS FITS IN THE AREA OR IT DOESN'T FIT IN THE AREA, AND TO MAKE IT FIT IN THE AREA, THAT'S WHAT WE WANT. BASICALLY, IT IS TURNED OVER TO THE CITY OF COLUMBUS, AND PLAIN TOWNSHIP AND NEW ALBANY ARE OUT OF IT AT THAT POINT. ONCE IT GOES TO COLUMBUS. NOW, WE STILL TRY TO KEEP TRACK OF WHAT'S GOING ON HERE, BUT THERE'S LESS AND LESS PROPERTY WITHIN PLAIN TOWNSHIP. AND I SIT ON THE PART OF THE BOARD HERE FOR PLAIN TOWNSHIP. AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS FOR SOME OF MY COMMENTS, BECAUSE ALL THE SMALLER HOMES ACROSS THE STREET ARE FROM PLAIN TOWNSHIP. SO WITH THAT, WITH THAT BEING SAID, I THINK IT'S A MUCH IMPROVED PRODUCT FROM WHAT IT WAS LAST MONTH. AND I THINK THAT OUR COMMENTS FROM THE PANEL HERE GOT GOT AN IMPROVEMENT TO WHAT THIS IS. THIS FITS MORE AND I THINK IT'S MORE FOR THE BLEND THE POLICE AND FIRE DEPARTMENT GOING ON DOWN AT THE CORNER. I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT THEY HAVE NO INTEREST IN TALKING TO PLAIN TOWNSHIP OR NEW ALBANY AS TO HOW THEY HOW THEY WANT THEIR BUILDING TO LOOK. THEY WOULDN'T CONSIDER ANYTHING ABOUT THAT.DOES IT REALLY FIT AND LOOK LIKE IN THE AREA? BUT YET NEW ALBANY'S FIRE DEPARTMENT LOOKS LIKE IT FITS IN THE AREA. THEIR POLICE DEPARTMENT LOOKS LIKE IT FITS IN THE AREA. CITY OF COLUMBUS? I DON'T THINK SO. SO. THAT'S THAT'S THE I THINK THE LAST COMMENT FROM ME ON THIS SUBJECT. I HAVE ONE QUICK COMMENT AND I NO ONE LIKES TO HEAR THE STATEMENT BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR, BUT I UNDERSTAND A LOT OF YOUR CONCERNS ABOUT THE LOCATION OF THIS PROPERTY. I AGREE WITH MY COLLEAGUE THAT THIS IS A PRETTY BIG TRANSITION FROM ITS CURRENT RURAL ZONING TO LIMITED MANUFACTURING TO ACCOMMODATE THE STORAGE USE. HOWEVER, IF IT WASN'T DEVELOPED IN THIS WAY, IT MOST LIKELY, I THINK, WOULD BE DEVELOPED AS APARTMENT RESIDENTIAL. AND I THINK YOU MIGHT SEE MORE IMPACT ON TRAFFIC ON DEVELOPMENT GENERALLY IN THE AREA AND APPEARANCE AND SO FORTH. JUST GIVEN OUR CURRENT HOUSING SITUATION, I DON'T KNOW, OF COURSE, WHETHER THE APPLICANT IS IN A POSITION TO SAY, WELL, MAYBE THEY'RE RIGHT, MAYBE WE JUST SHOULDN'T DEVELOP IT AT ALL. BUT I WOULDN'T REALLY EXPECT THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IF IT DOESN'T DEVELOP AS BEING PROPOSED. I WOULD SEE IT EASILY BECOMING AN APARTMENT COMMUNITY RATHER THAN BEING UNDEVELOPED. I THINK THIS IS A GOOD APPLICATION IN TERMS OF ITS RESTRICTED IMPACT ON SURROUNDING PROPERTIES, WHICH IS ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE REALLY HERE TO CONSIDER IS WHAT HAPPENS TO THE SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL AND OTHER USES. SO I AGREE, IF IT WAS SOMEWHERE ELSE, I WOULD PROBABLY SAY THIS IS THIS IS JUST GREAT. READY TO GO. THIS IS A GOOD, GOOD PRODUCT. I'M NOT QUITE THAT COMFORTABLE WITH IT IN THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION, BUT I'M ALSO CONCERNED THAT AN EVEN MORE INTENSIVE USE MIGHT TAKE ITS PLACE IF THIS WAS NOT.
APPROVED. SO THANK YOU. WELL, BEFORE THE BOARD ENTERTAINS A MOTION, DOES THE APPLICANT HAVE ANY FINAL REMARKS? NO, WE DON'T HAVE ANY FURTHER REMARKS. WE WANT TO MAKE IT WORK. WE WANT TO
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APPEASE THE AREA RESIDENTS. WE'VE TRIED TO CONFORM TO THE APPEARANCE, THE OPERATING HOURS.WE'RE HAPPY TO CONSIDER. AND IT ABSOLUTELY IS A NON TRAFFIC A VERY LOW MINIMAL TRAFFIC TYPE OF USE AND ANY OTHER. YOU'RE RIGHT MR. PAUL. I MEAN ANY OTHER TYPE OF COMMERCIAL USE OR RESIDENTIAL USE WOULD DRAW A LOT OF LOT MORE TRAFFIC TO THAT AREA. SO IT TAXES THE CITY SERVICES IN A VERY MINOR WAY TO PEOPLE ON STAFF. SO IT WILL GENERATE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF PROPERTY TAX, WHICH I KNOW WILL GO TO THE SCHOOLS. SO WE'VE ACCOUNTED FOR THAT IN OUR BUDGETING. AND THAT'S CERTAINLY A STRONG BENEFIT TO THE AREA THAT THAT PROPERTY TAX. MATT. ANYTHING MORE. NO, I THINK THE BIG CONCERN THAT WE HEARD FROM THE PUBLIC WAS APARTMENTS, YOU KNOW.
AND WE'RE A SOLUTION TO THAT. I MEAN, GENTLEMAN GOT UP AND WAS MORE MAD ABOUT THE APARTMENTS GOING IN THAN WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING. SO YEAH, WE THINK THAT WE'VE LISTENED. WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO LISTEN, AND WE WANT TO PUT A PRODUCT THAT WE KNOW YOU GUYS NEED. YOU CAN LOOK BACK, BUT THERE'S THIS IS SUCH AN UNDER SATURATED MARKET FOR SELF-STORAGE HOMES, APARTMENTS.
THEY ALL NEED IT. AND WHAT WE'RE PROVIDING IS A STORAGE SOLUTION THAT IS ALL INDOORS. IT'S YOU WON'T HEAR SOMEBODY. THE HIGH SPEED DOORS, THEY GO IN, THEY GO OUT THE OTHER SIDE AND THEY'RE GONE. THERE'S NO THE WAY STORAGE IS SET UP. YOU DON'T HAVE POWER IN YOUR UNITS. YOU DON'T HAVE POWER IN THOSE DRIVE UP UNITS. THERE'S TO COME THERE TO DROP OFF THEIR STUFF. WE DON'T HAVE GARBAGE. WE DON'T HAVE CONTAINERS FOR PEOPLE TO PUT REFUSE. WE WANT YOU TO COME UNLOAD YOUR STUFF. THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE THERE FOR. AND GO. AND YEAH, HOURS OF OPERATION WILL CERTAINLY BE CONSIDERED. AND I THINK WE DID TALK ABOUT THOSE, BUT IT'S THE SAME. THANK YOU GUYS. ALL RIGHT. ANY ANY OTHER LAST REMARKS BY THE PANEL? GIVEN THAT THIS IS A COLUMBUS APPLICATION, I WOULD LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION. SURE. AND I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS APPLICATION BY THE CITY OF COLUMBUS. AND AGAIN, DAVE, PAUL, CAN I GET A SECOND? SECOND SELLERS. MR. PAUL. YES. MR. SELLERS YES. MISS BONEY YES.
MR. HERSKOWITZ NO. MR. CHAPELLIER NO. MR. HARPER NO. MR. SIEBENALER YES. AND THAT MOTION PASSES WITH FOUR VOTES IN FAVOR OF APPROVAL OF RECOMMENDATION OF THE APPLICATION. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE. THAT THAT CLOSES THIS APPLICATION. I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY OTHER BUSINESS FOR TODAY'S AGENDA. YEAH. THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. SO DO WE NEED TO TAKE AN ACTION FOR ADJOURNMENT? CAN I DISCUSS ONE OTHER THING? I WAS WAITING UNTIL AFTER WE WERE DONE WITH THIS PART OF THE MEETING. SURE. BUT IT KIND OF GOES BACK TO OLD BUSINESS. AND IT WAS KIND OF A DISCUSSION TO HAVE AMONGST US. AND THAT WAS I'VE HEARD SOME DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF. A BUILDING THAT I THINK IS STATE FARM, MAYBE AT THE CORNER OF NEW ALBANY ROAD AND NEW ALBANY ROAD AND WALTON PARKWAY. I'VE, I'VE HEARD THAT THAT'S LOOKING AT BEING A COLUMBUS PUBLIC SCHOOL. IS THERE ANY OTHER KNOWLEDGE OF ANYBODY HAVING HEARD THAT BEFORE OR ANYTHING. BECAUSE A FEW MONTHS WELL, A FEW MEETINGS BACK, THE FELLOW THAT WAS LOOKING AT WANTING TO BUILD THE APARTMENTS ON THE VACANT LOT RIGHT NEXT TO IT, WAS ALSO TALKING ABOUT TRYING TO GET THAT PROPERTY FOR HIS HIS STUFF, BUT BECAUSE OF THE FACT IT'S BEEN SO LONG AND THERE HASN'T BEEN ANY APPEARANCE OF TRYING TO DO ANYTHING WITH
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APARTMENTS, I'M JUST TRYING TO FIND OUT. IS THAT A BEING CONSIDERED FOR A LOCATION FOR A COLUMBUS PUBLIC SCHOOL? IF ANYBODY HAS ANY KNOWLEDGE OF THAT, I'VE NOT HEARD ANYTHING.NOT THAT I WOULD NECESSARILY EXPECT TO KNOW, BUT I HAVE NOT HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT THAT. AND OF COURSE, AT THIS POINT, THEY'RE CLOSING PROPERTIES MORE THAN CREATING NEW ONES FOR COLUMBUS CITY SCHOOLS. YEAH. SO I DON'T KNOW. OKAY. I WAS JUST WONDERING BECAUSE LIKE RIGHT NOW AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT WOULD BE A HIGH SCHOOL OR AN ELEMENTARY OR WHEREVER, SOMEPLACE IN BETWEEN. BUT RIGHT NOW, THE CLOSEST HIGH SCHOOL, I THINK, TO THIS AREA IS BEECHCROFT, AND WHICH IS A PRETTY GOOD JAUNT IF YOU'RE TRYING TO BUS KIDS BACK AND FORTH. AND THAT'S WHY I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IS THAT, FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM, A GOOD FIT. AND THAT'S THAT'S WHY I'M TRYING TO TRYING TO FIND OUT AND GET SOME INPUT. IF ANYBODY KNOWS ANYTHING ABOUT THAT, LET'S KEEP THOSE OPEN. I'LL KEEP MY EARS OPEN. OKAY. IF YOU DO, WILL YOU LET ME KNOW? THANK YOU.
THAT'S ALL I HAD. ALL RIGHT, DO I DO WE TAKE ACTION FOR ADJOURNMENT? JUST A MOTION TO ADJOURN. OKAY, WELL, I WILL MOVE
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.