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ARE ADJOURNING THE ORGANIZATIONAL MEETING AT 6:46 P.M. AND THAT TAKES US TO OUR REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING FOR JANUARY 7TH. WE'VE ALREADY DONE THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. BUT JUST FOR THE RECORD CLERK. MASON, THE ROLL, PLEASE. CERTAINLY, MISS. SWITCH VOTING RECORDS. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. MAYOR. SPALDING. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. BRISK. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER DIRK HAS REQUESTED TO BE EXCUSED DUE TO TRAVEL. COUNCIL MEMBER BELLOWS HAS REQUESTED TO BE EXCUSED DUE TO WORK. TRAVEL. COUNCIL MEMBER. KIST. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. SHAW. YES.
COUNCIL MEMBER WILTROUT HAS REQUESTED TO BE EXCUSED DUE TO ILLNESS. ALL RIGHT. I MOVE THAT WE EXCUSE THE ABSENCES OF COUNCIL MEMBER DERRICK FELLOWES AND WILTROUT SECOND. MAYOR.
SPALDING. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER SHAW. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. KISS. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. BRISK. YES.
FOUR YES. VOTES TO EXCUSE. COUNCIL MEMBERS DIRK FELLOWES AND WILL TROUT FROM TONIGHT'S
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MEETING. ACTION ON THE MINUTES PRIOR TO TONIGHT'S MEETING. A COPY OF THE PROPOSED MINUTES FROM OUR DECEMBER 17TH, 2024 MEETING WERE DISTRIBUTED TO COUNCIL MEMBERS. ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS TO THE PROPOSED MINUTES? I RECEIVED ONE TYPO CORRECTION WITH THAT SCRIVENER'S ERROR DOESN'T NEED A MOTION, SO WE ARE GOOD TO GO. I MOVE FOR ADOPTION BY CONSENSUS.THAT TAKES US TO ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS TO THE AGENDA. WOULD ANYONE FROM STAFF OR COUNCIL LIKE TO RECOMMEND ANY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS TO TONIGHT'S AGENDA? I HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY
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REQUESTS. ALL RIGHT. HEARING OF VISITORS. WE HAVE TWO SPEAKER CARDS THIS EVENING. WE'LL START WITH MISS DAVIES. THAT IS FOR AN ORDINANCE. OH, THAT'S AN ORDINANCE, I APOLOGIZE. WE HAVE MR. CLINTON ON THE SCHEDULE. ALL RIGHT THEN, DOCTOR KLINK. AND. YEAH. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY. I KNOW I DON'T NEED ANY. YOU'VE SEEN ME MANY TIMES. I PROMISE THIS IS THE LAST TRIP TO CITY COUNCIL. ANY PROMISES? COME ON. I DID PROMISE THAT LAST NIGHT. YOU, ON BEHALF OF SHARON BUSEY, WHO'S HERE WITH ADAPTIVE SPORTS, I'M REPRESENTING THE AMERICAN LEAGUE OF NEW ALBANY. I WANTED TO BRING THIS TO THE ATTENTION OF THE COUNCIL ONE LAST TIME, OR ONE FINAL TIME, TO HOPEFULLY GO AND REVIEW THE CONCEPT OF THE MIRACLE LEAGUE PARK. AND WHERE WE ARE STANDING CURRENTLY AND WHERE WE KIND OF COME FROM. SO A REAL BRIEF AGENDA IN THE HANDOUT THAT I PROVIDED. THE COUNCIL WILL GO THROUGH JUST A FEW OF THESE SLIDES, BUT I JUST WANTED TO REVIEW A LITTLE BIT OF THE HISTORY OF WHERE OR HOW WE GOT TO THIS CROSSROADS. AN UPDATE OF SCHOOLS MASTER PLAN AND OUR CONCEPT ITSELF, AND JUST A BRIEF PRESENTATION OF THE CONCEPT ITSELF. I'D ASK FOR ANY EXPRESSIONS OF SUPPORT FROM THE FROM THE CROWD AND THEN GET TO THE FORMAL REQUEST ONCE AGAIN TO THE COUNCIL. SO, AS EVERYBODY RECALLS, IN JUNE OR IN JUNE OF 2023, I STOOD AT THIS PODIUM AND PRESENTED THE CONCEPT OF THE MIRACLE LEAGUE PARK WITH THE ADDITION OF ADAPTIVE SPORTS. COMING TO THE MIRACLE LEAGUE SITE IN THE SWICKARD WOODS AREA.WHICH WOULD BRING THE PROGRAMING AND THE BENEFIT FOR ADAPTIVE SPORTS TO OUR COMMUNITY AND TO OUR SCHOOLS. THAT LED TO FURTHER DISCUSSIONS AND ULTIMATELY A REPRESENTATION IN SEPTEMBER WHERE AT THIS COUNCIL MEETING, THE RESOLUTION IS OUTLINED HERE, WHICH BASICALLY WAS VOTED TO AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO NEGOTIATE AND EXECUTE A LEASE AGREEMENT WITH THE PARK DISTRICT, WHICH IS WHERE THE MIRACLE LEAGUE FIELD HOUSES ITS LEASE TO FACILITATE THE DEVELOPMENT OF AN ADAPTIVE SPORTS FACILITY IMMEDIATELY NORTH OF OUR MIRACLE FIELD. THIS WAS JUST THE MINUTES. THERE WERE SEVERAL AMENDMENTS TO THAT, IF YOU RECALL, BUT WE GOT TO THE POINT WHERE IT WAS VOTED. AND THAT WAS IN SEPTEMBER. WE WERE VERY CLOSE TO FRUITION OF THAT LEASE WHEN WE WERE PUT ON HALT. WITH THE ANTICIPATION OF THE SCHOOLS VOLUME ASSESSMENT. AND THE MASTER PLAN REVIEW, WHICH HAPPENED IN JULY, AND SO THAT LEASE WAS NEVER EXECUTED. AT THE DISCRETION OF MANY AND THE ASK OF MANY, AND THIS WAS WHAT CAME THROUGH THE PUBLICIZED CAMPUS MASTER PLAN WITH THE SCHOOLS THAT EVERYBODY HAS SEEN AND JUST THE OUTLINE, MAINLY WHERE OUR PROPOSED PARK WAS, WAS THIS AREA OF SWICKARD WOODS, WHICH IN THE SCHOOL'S MASTER PLAN HAD THREE COMPONENTS. AND AROUND THE MIRACLE FIELD SITE, WHICH WAS WAS TO HEAR THE EXPANSION OF THE BUS LANES, THE SWICKARD WOODS BOULEVARD, BUT PRIMARILY THE ADDITION OF A NEW SCHOOL. WHERE THE VARSITY SOFTBALL AND BASEBALL FIELDS WERE, WHICH COMES INTO PLAY A LITTLE BIT LATER. BUT THIS WAS WHAT WAS REVEALED WITH THE SCHOOLS MASTER PLAN, WHICH THEN BEGAN DISCUSSIONS AGAIN. IS IT APPROPRIATE TO PLACE OR THE VIABILITY OF PLACING OUR CONCEPT IN THIS POSITION? AND WE GOT INTO DISCUSSIONS ON MOVING THE FIELD, GOT INTO BACKGROUND
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DISCUSSIONS ON POSSIBLE OTHER ALTERNATIVES. BUT AS JUST TO RECALL, THE CONCEPT WAS IN THE AREA IN THE LAND AROUND THE MIRACLE EXISTING MIRACLE FIELD WAS THE ADDITION OF THIS MIRACL, OR WHAT WE WOULD TERM A MIRACLE PARK. OR AN ADAPTIVE SPORTS PARK. VERY UNIQUE SITUATION WITH A FIELD HOUSE. OUTLINED HERE. AND I WON'T GO THROUGH THE SPECIFICS, BUT RENDERINGS THAT HAVE BEEN SOMEWHAT FINALIZED AND PROGRAMING FINALIZED, AND WE WERE HAD RAISED QUITE A BIT OF MONEY FOR THIS. WHEN ALL SHOWN HERE, WHICH IS A FIELD HOUSE WHICH PROVIDE ALL THESE DIFFERENT ADAPTIVE PROGRAMS FOR BOTH OUR SCHOOL AND OUR COMMUNITY AND COMMUNITIES AROUND US. AS YOU CAN SEE HERE. CLIMBING WALLS, BASKETBALL, INDOOR HOCKEY, THAT KIND OF THING. AS WELL AS A CONCESSION AREA AND RESTROOM FACILITY FOR THE EXISTING MIRACLE FIELD.WHICH OUTLINED HERE, WE HAD AREAS FOR PROBABLY ART DISPLAY FOR OUR SPECIAL NEEDS KIDS.
OUTDOOR LEARNING AREAS. A SOCCER PITCH AND ADAPTIVE SOCCER PITCH FOR AMPUTEE SOCCER THAT WAS BEING DONATED BY THE COLUMBUS CREW FOUNDATION. MOST IMPORTANTLY, WAS THIS OR VERY IMPORTANTLY, WAS THIS ADAPTIVE BIKE COURSE WHERE WE WOULD BUILD BIKES. ADAPTIVE BIKES AND STORE THEM IN OUR FACILITY THERE. INTEGRATED WITHIN THE SITE AND AROUND THIS ADAPTIVE PLAYGROUND, WHICH WOULD BE A COMMUNITY CENTER, BUT BASICALLY A ALL INTEGRATED BOTH PARENT AND CHILDREN AND COMMUNITY ALIKE. INTEGRATED PLAY AND FITNESS AREA ARE JUST SHOWN HERE. THIS HAD A BIG BLUE JACKETS THEME, WITH THE THOUGHT THAT THE BLUE JACKETS FOUNDATION WOULD HELP US FUND THIS. AND THEN FINALLY AN OUTDOOR FITNESS PAVILION, WHICH TO ME WAS MORE OF AN OUTDOOR CLASSROOM AGAIN FOR ART, OUTDOOR FITNESS AND SUCH, FOR OUR SCHOOLS AND FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
WE DID PROVIDE PARKING AND VOLUME ASSESSMENTS THROUGH MCCSC, WHICH BASICALLY SHOWED WITH THE EXPECTED PROGRAMING THAT THIS BASICALLY NEEDED 42 ADDITIONAL PARKING STALLS AND THIS TWO WAY ROAD IN THE NORTH SIDE OF THIS, WHICH ALLOWED SOME NEW DROP OFF AREAS TO ACCOMMODATE. BUT AT THAT POINT IT WAS THOUGHT TO HAVE VERY MINIMAL EFFECT ON ACCESS TO THAT AREA. SO THAT'S WHERE WE THAT WAS THE CONCEPT. WE WENT THROUGH THE COST ANALYSIS. AND AGAIN, WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO RAISE MONEY FOR THIS. BUT THIS LEADS TO THE FINAL CONSIDERATION AS WE STAND HERE NOW. WITH THE CONSIDERATIONS THAT I LEAVE HERE IS THAT. AND BEFORE I ASK FOR EXPRESSIONS OF SUPPORT FROM ANYONE, THE THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT COST, OBVIOUSLY, TO MOVE OUR FIELD FROM THE MIRACLE LEAGUE FIELD, NOT TO MENTION THE LACK OF SUPPORT FROM MY BOARD AND THE MAJOR DONORS THAT WE'VE HAD. I THINK WE'RE ALL VERY COGNIZANT OF THE AND AGREEABLE TO THE SIGNIFICANT BENEFIT THIS HAS TO OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR CAMPUS ALIKE. BUT I WOULD ARGUE NOW THAT THE SITE ITSELF DOES NOT IMPACT THE CURRENT MASTER PLAN TO THE SCHOOL EXPANSION.
AND WE CAN DISCUSS A LITTLE BIT OF THE EFFECT THAT AND THE POSSIBILITY OF PROBABILITY OF IT TRULY AFFECTING ANY FUTURE GROWTH OR EXPANSION ON THE PROPOSED LEASE ARRANGEMENT. THAT THAT, IN A SENSE, IS WE'RE AT A POSITION NOW WHERE THE FINANCIALS AND THE GRANTS AND THE MONEY THAT WE'RE TRYING TO RAISE IS BEING SOMEWHAT AFFECTED BY THE DELAY. AND SO WE'RE JUST TRYING TO COME TO A CONCLUSION OF THIS. SO THE REQUEST IS ESSENTIALLY EITHER ACTING AND ALLOWING THE RESOLUTION THAT WAS APPROVED BEFORE TO MOVE FORWARD, WHICH ESSENTIALLY AT THIS POINT IS A 16 YEAR LEASE. WHICH TERMINATES IN 2041, OR DECREASING THAT TO A 15 YEAR LEASE IF THAT'S MORE AMENABLE. THAT WOULD ALLOW THIS CONCEPT TO PROCEED. SO THAT'S THE REQUEST THAT I PRESENT TO THE COUNCIL, AND I'LL ALLOW ANYBODY ELSE TO SPEAK HER VOICE BEFORE I ANSWER QUESTIONS. GOOD EVENING, MICHAEL SAWYER, SUPERINTENDENT, NEW ALBANY-PLAIN LOCAL SCHOOLS. I'M HERE TO SUPPORT THE PROGRAMING ELEMENTS THAT COULD BE POSSIBLE WITHIN THE ADAPTIVE SPORTS FACILITY. I THINK IT COULD BECOME AN ASSET TO THE COMMUNITY. CURRENTLY, THERE'S 743 STUDENTS ON OUR SCHOOL CAMPUS THAT QUALIFY FOR SPECIAL EDUCATION SERVICES. 111 OF THOSE STUDENTS ACTUALLY RECEIVE ADAPTIVE PHYSICAL EDUCATION SERVICES ON A DAILY BASIS DURING SCHOOL. SO THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES THAT COULD TAKE PLACE CLEARLY IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THIS FACILITY PROXIMAL TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. WE WERE ASKED SEVERAL QUESTIONS. CITY MANAGER STEFANOFF AND I HAVE MET WITH REPRESENTATIVES TO TALK ABOUT FUTURE ENROLLMENT GROWTH.
WHAT CAME OUT OF THE CAMPUS MASTER PLAN, THE QUALITATIVE STUDIES OR QUADRANT STRATEGY STUDIES, AND THE CURRENT PLAN THAT'S IN PLACE THAT LIKELY WILL BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY FOR THE NEXT 15 YEARS. AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE THAT ALIGNMENT IS COMING FROM TO ALSO BE IN
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CONCERT WITH THE CURRENT LEASE ASSOCIATED TO MIRACLE FIELD. SO I KNOW THERE'S MANY CONSIDERATIONS CITY COUNCIL HAS TO LOOK AT. WE'VE HAD MANY CONVERSATIONS RELATED TO TRAFFIC SWICKARD WOODS BOULEVARD. WHAT HAPPENS SPECIFICALLY NOW VERSUS IN THE FUTURE FOR THE LONG TIME.THAT'S NOT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT'S DECISION TO MAKE, CLEARLY. ANYTHING ELSE THAT WOULD HAPPEN FOR ENROLLMENT SHORT OF EXPANDING EXISTING FACILITIES ON THE SCHOOL CAMPUS, WOULD REQUIRE OTHER PARTNERSHIPS, EITHER THROUGH THE CITY OR OTHER ENTITIES. BECAUSE THE SCHOOL DISTRICT HAS NO LAND LEFT, THAT'S SOLELY THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS HAVE TO BUILD THE NEW K-2. THAT WE PASS THE BOND ISSUE FOR THAT'S BEING PROPOSED IN THE SITE PLAN. ANYTHING THAT HAPPENS IN THE FUTURE WILL REQUIRE PARTNERSHIP OR EXPANSION ON THE EXISTING CAMPUS ITSELF. THERE IS NO GREEN SPACE LEFT THAT WE HAVE ACCESS TO THAT'S SOLELY OURS. COMES UP OFTEN IN A QUESTION OR CONVERSATION. JOE AND I ROUTINELY ASK HER TO ANSWER THE QUESTION. PART OF CARDUELIS WAY, SPECIFICALLY WHERE THE CELL TOWER IS, BELONGS TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT TO ABOUT HALFWAY THROUGH THE MIDDLE SCHOOL BASEBALL FIELD, AND THE REST BELONGS TO THE CITY. AND WE HAVE A LONG TERM LEASE AGREEMENT IN PLACE FOR THAT AS WELL TO BENEFIT STUDENTS ON OUR SCHOOL CAMPUS, BECAUSE, AGAIN, IT'S PROXIMATE. BUT WHEN IT GOES BACK TO THE PROGRAMING ELEMENTS THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED, THE FEATURES, THE ASPECTS, IT COULD BENEFIT PRESCHOOL THROUGH K-2 STUDENTS, OBVIOUSLY. SO PRE-K THROUGH TWO, BASED UPON THE PROPOSED LOCATION THAT YOU'RE BEING SHOWN. THE REST OF THE CAMPUS WE WOULD HAVE TO FIGURE OUT MAY NOT ALWAYS OCCUR DURING THE SCHOOL DAY, BUT THERE COULD BE OTHER ACTIVITIES THAT COULD TAKE PLACE THERE IN PARTNERSHIP JUST BECAUSE OF THE PROXIMAL RELATIONSHIP THAT WOULD EXIST WITH TWO OF THE EXISTING FACILITIES. OFFICER BOULEVARD HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE FOR ANY SCHOOL THING. THEY MAY BE RELATED. I MEAN, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED THIS AT SOME LEVEL IS THE TERM OF THE LEASE AND THE PLANNING THAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT HAS GONE THROUGH FOR GROWTH. ANY CONCERNS ABOUT THAT 15 YEAR TIME FRAME? IS THAT TOO LONG? I BELIEVE IT'S REALISTIC.
I THINK THE WORK THAT COKER STRATEGIES DID LOOKED OUT TEN YEARS BASED UPON ANYTHING ELSE THAT WOULD COME INTO PLAY. IT TAKES THREE YEARS MINIMUM TO BUILD A SCHOOL BUILDING AND GO THROUGH THAT WHOLE PLANNING PHASE OR DEVELOPMENT. SO THAT'S A MINIMUM OF 13 YEARS. IT'S PROBABLY LIKELY TO BE SAFE FOR. I THINK THE MIRACLE FIELD LEASE HAS 17 YEARS LEFT ON IT. AND OUR MOST RECENT CONVERSATION, THAT WAS ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I HAD ASKED. SO THIS ACTUALLY WOULD EXPIRE BEFORE MIRACLE FIELD. BUT AGAIN, ANY EXPANSION. AND I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT OTHER SITES PROXIMATE TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. TO RETAIN ONE CAMPUS HAS TO BE DONE WITH PARTNERS THAT CURRENTLY ARE BEYOND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, AND THAT'S NOT CURRENTLY BEING DISCUSSED. OUR PLAN TAKES US THROUGH PROBABLY THE NEXT 15 YEARS, AND WITH THE CURRENT EXPANSION OF THE ADAPTIVE SPORTS FACILITY, DO YOU FEEL LIKE IF WE DID THE BUS LOOP ALONG THE NORTHERN PART OF THE DISTRICT THERE, THAT WOULD STILL ACCOMMODATE AND BE ACCESSIBLE IF WE WENT THAT ROUTE? THE. YEAH, I THINK THERE'S STILL EGRESS THAT'S POSSIBLE. IF YOU LOOK AT ADJACENT TO 161, WHAT BECOMES THE SOUNDWALL BARRIERS OR ANYTHING ELSE FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT THAT COULD TAKE PLACE? I HAVEN'T SEEN THE MOCKUPS OF THOSE SPECIFIC ROADWAYS AND PLANS, BUT IT'S BEEN SOMETHING DISCUSSED CURRENTLY THAT IS NOT BUILT INTO THE MASTER PLAN THAT'S BEING EXECUTED. OKAY. THE L ON THAT IS NOT PART OF WHAT'S HAPPENING BETWEEN 2025 AND 2031. OKAY.
THAT WAS NOT PART OF OUR FUNDING REQUEST. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SO ARE YOU OKAY WITH THE LEASE BEING CONCURRENT WITH THE CURRENT MIRACLE FIELD LEASE FOR DAPTIVE SPORTS FACILITIES? THAT WOULD BE PRESENTED TO THE ADAPTIVE SPORTS BOARD FROM OUR MIRACLE LEAGUE? YES. FROM WHAT? EVERYTHING. WE'VE TALKED TO THE ADAPTIVE SPORTS PRIOR. YES. SO, I MEAN, JUST SO I'M CLEAR WITH COUNCIL, THAT LAND IS CURRENTLY TIED UP FOR THE NEXT 17 YEARS. AND THIS IS AN FROM TWO ACRES TO THE NORTH. SO THOSE LEASES ARE CONCURRENT. I MEAN UNLESS SOMEBODY'S GOING TO BREAK THAT LEASE OR PAY FOR THE MIRACLE FIELD TO MOVE, IT'S GOING TO BE THERE FOR THE NEXT 17 YEARS. IS THAT CORRECT? YES. OKAY. WHICH IS JUST MIRACLE FIELD THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. CORRECT. YEAH. BUT A GOOD PORTION OF THE FOOTPRINT OF THE ADAPTIVE SPORTS FACILITY IS ON THAT CURRENTLY LEASED PROPERTY. WE'RE JUST TALKING AN ADDITIONAL TWO ACRES, A SMALL A SLIVER TO THE NORTH THAT WE'RE ADDING THE OTHER FIVE. THE OTHER FIVE IS ALREADY TIED UP FOR 17 YEARS. CORRECT. OKAY. ARE WE COUNCIL COMMENT NOW? THAT'S WHAT I WAS WONDERING. YOU HAVE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? I DO. YEAH. SHOULD I OKAY. I, I AM VERY AMBIVALENT ABOUT THIS. I HAVE STRUGGLED WITH IT. I STRUGGLED WITH IT. WHEN WE PUT THE MIRACLE FIELD THERE. I WAS JUST BRAND NEW ON COUNCIL AT THE TIME AND KIND OF DIDN'T WANT TO ROCK THE BOAT.
BUT I LOVE WHAT YOU'RE DOING. I LOVE THIS ORGANIZATION. I'VE COME TO MIRACLE FIELD. I
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TREMENDOUSLY ADMIRE THE WORK THAT YOU ALL PUT IN, AND I WANT IT TO BE A SUCCESS. I WANT I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE IT IN NEW ALBANY, JUST LIKE I LOVE HAVING THE MIRACLE FIELD IN NEW ALBANY.I FIND THAT MR. SAWYER'S BEING HERE TONIGHT IS PERSUASIVE TO ME. I DO UNDERSTAND THAT BY DOING THIS 15 YEARS, THAT IS A TREMENDOUS COMPROMISE ON YOUR PART THAT I GREATLY APPRECIATE, BECAUSE WHAT THAT DOES SAY IS, IF WE GET TO A POINT WHERE THE NEXT PHASE OF SCHOOL PLAN, WE DO HAVE COOPERATION FROM OTHER ENTITIES, AND WE DO NEED MORE LAND THAT FREES US UP TO DO THAT, AND THAT HELPS. I'M STILL STUCK WITH THE FACT THAT WE ARE, AS THE CITY, OFTEN THE ONES WHO GET THE BLAME FOR TRAFFIC BACKUPS AND PROBLEMS THAT HAPPEN ARE ALL AROUND THE SCHOOL CAMPUS. IT IS NEVER OUR DECISION WHAT HAPPENS WITHIN THE SCHOOL CAMPUS, BUT IT IS ALWAYS US WHO GETS THE BLAME WHEN PEOPLE CAN'T GET AROUND IT. AND WE ARE CONSTANTLY CHALLENGED BY THAT.
IT IS. IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE CONSTANTLY TRYING TO FIND BETTER WAYS TO WORK ON. THE SCHOOL ADMINISTRATION. THE SCHOOL BOARD HAS BEEN VERY CLEAR IN THEIR ABSOLUTE COMMITMENT TO STAY ALL ON ONE CAMPUS, AND I CERTAINLY RESPECT THAT, AND THAT'S CERTAINLY WITHIN THEIR JURISDICTION. BUT WE GET STUCK DEALING WITH THAT. AND I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT THIS COULD ADD AT TIMES. YOU KNOW, I HAD TO BE AT THE MCCOY TODAY AT 3:00. AND YEAH, WE'RE LAUGHING. BUT IT'S FUNNY NOW, IT WASN'T AT 3:00. I WATCHED SOMEBODY WHO ISN'T FAMILIAR WITH OUR COMMUNITY IN VERY HIGH HEELS, WALKING FROM BREWDOG AS FAST AS SHE COULD IN THE FREEZING COLD WITHOUT A COAT TO GET TO OUR 3:00 MEETING. THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE ALL AROUND THE CAMPUS REGULARLY, AND I'M JUST A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT THIS. ADDING TO THAT, I KNOW IT'S ONLY A COUPLE MORE ACRES, BUT I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE VOLUME OF ADDITIONAL CARS COMING IN AND OUT. SO I'M NOT SAYING WHAT IN THE END I WANT TO DO HERE. I'M JUST BEING VERY TRANSPARENT WITH YOU ABOUT THE FACT THAT I FEEL LIKE I HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO LOOK AT ALL OF THIS, AND I'M AND I'M CONCERNED. I REALLY AM. I THINK IF YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT TRAFFIC IN THAT AREA, THE 102, 30 ZERO ZERO ZERO SQUARE FOOT BUILDING THAT WE'RE THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS GOING TO BUILD, THERE IS GOING TO HAVE MORE OF AN IMPACT ON TRAFFIC THAN A PLAYGROUND AND A SOCCER FIELD. IT IS. AND THEY'RE GOING TO ADD TOGETHER. AND ON TOP OF IT, WE'VE SEEN ALL THESE STUDIES NOW THAT TELL US THAT THE SCHOOL IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO GROW, MUCH OF IT OUT OF OUR CONTROL, BECAUSE IT'S COMING FROM OUTSIDE OF THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY. IT'S ALL ADDING UP. IT'S ALL ADDING UP. YEAH, MARLENE, THAT I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH JOE TODAY AND THAT WAS WAS MY CONCERN TOO.
WITH THAT, IF I HEARD MR. SAWYER AND HIS HIS TALK, AS IT'S PROPOSED FOR THE NEXT 15 YEARS, HE'S HE'S OKAY WITH IT. LIKES THE ADAPTIVE PART BECAUSE OF THE STUDENT BASE THAT'S THERE. VERY HELPFUL. AND MANY OF THEM ARE PROBABLY DOING ADAPTIVE ACTIVITIES NOW. SO I HEAR THAT.
I THINK THAT'S GREAT. I'M SUPPORTIVE OF BRINGING ADAPTIVE SPORTS TO NEW ALBANY. I WANT TO SEE THAT HAPPEN. AND I HAD STATED THIS BACK IN SEPTEMBER. THE ONLY CONCERNS I HAD AT THAT TIME WERE, WHAT ARE THE SCHOOL PLANS AND WHAT IS THE TOWNSHIP, YOU KNOW, PART OF THEIR POOL OF THAT WHOLE THING? TO MY RECOLLECTION, AND WHO I'VE TALKED TO, I DON'T THINK THAT THERE'S ANYTHING BEING PLANNED FOR A POOL EXPANSION AT THIS POINT. SO I DON'T I DON'T THINK THERE'S A TOWNSHIP NEED AT ALL. SO I'M FINE THERE. THE ONLY THING THAT I DO KNOW THAT THAT THEY EXPERIENCE IS PARKING, BECAUSE THEY PARK ALL OVER THE PLACE EVERY YEAR THEY'VE HAD RECORD. IT BEATS EVERY YEAR, BEATS THE PREVIOUS YEAR IN ATTENDANCE AT THE POOL. THIS WAS THE SAME THIS LAST YEAR. AND I KNOW GOING OVER THERE AND HAVING LOOKED AT THIS SITE FOR YEARS WHEN WE WERE THINKING ABOUT PICKLEBALL, I JUST ALWAYS NOTICED ALL THE CARS PARKED IN THE GRASS ALONG THAT ROAD THAT'S COMING IN. SO I KNOW THERE'S A PARKING NEED THAT THE POOL HAS.
AND LOOKING AT YOUR YOUR SLIDES HERE, AS I'M JUST STICKING WITH THE PARKING PIECE, I NOTICED THAT YOU WERE PUTTING IN, I WANT TO SAY 42 EXTRA SPOTS I THINK WAS WHAT THE SLIDE SAID. BUT YOU'RE ALSO TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION AND I ASKED THIS BACK IN SEPTEMBER ABOUT THE
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OTHER NEEDS FOR THE POOL PARKING AS PART OF YOUR EQUATION AND SCHOOL PARKING AS PART OF YOUR EQUATION. I BELIEVE IT WAS 126 STALLS, ADJACENT SCHOOL PARKING AND 137 STALLS ADJACENT POOL PARKING. AND SO I ALREADY KNOW THERE'S A NEED FOR THE POOL PARKING. IT LOOKS LIKE YOU HAVE BROUGHT THIS. I'M JUST WONDERING YOUR THOUGHTS FOR THE ADJACENT PARKING FOR POOL AND SCHOOL NEEDS THAT YOU MAY THAT YOU MAY HAVE. KEEP IN MIND THAT THIS WAS DONE PRIOR TO THE MASTER PLAN REVIEW OR ANY BOULEVARD CHANGES, OR ANY VOLUME INCREASE IN THAT SPOT. AND SO THIS WAS BASED PURELY ON OUR PROGRAMING, THE PARKING NEEDS AND THE ADDITION OF DROP OFF ZONES. THAT WOULD BE IDEAL. SO THIS IS STUFF THAT WAS DONE BEFORE WE EVEN KNEW THE VOLUME IMPACT AND THE PARKING DEMAND AND THE TRAFFIC DEMAND THAT A NEW SCHOOL WILL BRING, WHICH I WOULD ARGUE IN EVERY CASE IS GOING TO BE SIGNIFICANTLY MORE THAN EVENING, PRIMARILY EVENING PROGRAMING AND WEEKEND PROGRAMING FOR OUR FACILITY. SO THAT'S DIFFICULT TO ANSWER IN A SENSE. I MEAN, THIS CAN ALL BE MODIFIED. THE PARKING AND THE ACCESS CAN ALL IS STILL MODIFIABLE, IF THAT'S A WORD IN OUR WORLD, BECAUSE IT'S BUT THIS WAS JUST PURELY BASED ON THE WELL TO YOUR POINT, THIS WAS DONE BEFORE THE MASTER PLAN BUILDING WAS APPROVED. GENERALLY, HOW MANY PARKING SPOTS ARE GOING TO BE ADDED TO THAT? HOW MANY? APPROXIMATELY 200. SO 200 PARKING SPOTS ARE GOING TO BE ADDED IN THE SUMMERTIME THAT AREN'T GOING TO BE USED BY THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WHEN THE POOL IS IN USE. SO ESSENTIALLY THERE'S A 200 PARKING SPOT LOT THAT THE DISTRICT IS GOING TO BUILD, WHICH WOULD BE FINE FOR THE SUMMER WHEN THE POOL IS IN USE.BUT SCHOOL'S ALSO IN USE FOR THE OTHER EIGHT NINE MONTHS. BUT THE POOL IS NOT NOW. YEAH, SO I STILL HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT PARKING. I DO HAVE A CONCERN. AND THIS IS THIS IS A COMBINATION. IT'S THE SCHOOL'S PLANS AS WELL AS YOURS. AND TO YOUR POINT, SUPERINTENDENT SAWYER'S. THAT'S NOT YOUR WORLD THAT I KNOW. THAT'S THE WORLD THAT WE HAVE TO LOOK IN. AS FAR AS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PUT A SINGLE AT THAT, THAT OPENING THERE. I MEAN, WE PROBABLY HAVE A GOOD 1 OR 2 MILLION THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO JUST IN IMPROVEMENTS IN THAT ROADWAY JUST FOR THAT OPENING. I'M NOT A FAN OF HAVING ONE ONE WAY IN, ONE WAY OUT. SO I WOULD LIKE TO PURSUE SOMETHING UP AT THE NORTH THERE, WHICH I APPRECIATE. I THINK THERE'S NOT AN IMPACT ON THAT. IF WE EVER HAD TO TAKE THAT ROAD, IS THERE ENOUGH ROOM TO WIDEN THAT ROAD TO ALLOW BUS TRAFFIC TO GO THROUGH THERE? ONE WAY, JUST ONE WAY. BUT TO YOUR POINT ABOUT MULTIPLE ENTRANCES, I MEAN, IF THERE WAS A LIFE SAFETY ISSUE AND THERE WAS, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAVE AN EMERGENCY INTERSECTION, YOU WANT TO HAVE ANOTHER WAY TO GET THERE. THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE GOOD. RIGHT? AND SO AND THAT'S I MEAN, THAT ISN'T NECESSARILY A CONCERN SPECIFIC TO ADAPTIVE SPORTS. THAT'S JUST A CONCERN. BUT WE'RE BRINGING MORE TRAFFIC INTO THAT AREA WHICH POTENTIALLY COULD DO THAT AS WELL. AND WITH 130 200 ZERO SQUARE FOOT BUILDING, THAT'S JUST GOING TO HAVE, WHAT, ABOUT A THOUSAND KIDS MAYBE, PLUS TEACHERS AND OTHERS THAT ARE GOING IN THERE. I DO THINK THAT'S GOING TO GET FULL PRETTY QUICKLY. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'LL HAVE ANY OTHER SCHOOLS, IF YOU'LL HAVE PARKING FOR HIGH SCHOOL IN THAT LOT. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S PLANNED, BUT TYPICALLY 30% OF THE KIDS I THINK I'VE HEARD ALSO PARK, WHICH COULD BE ANOTHER 300 CARS IF THAT WAS EVEN SOMETHING THERE. I DON'T THINK THAT MIGHT NOT BE, BUT I'M STILL TRYING TO KEEP ALL THE OPTIONS OPEN WHEN I'M LOOKING AT THE SPACE. AND THEN MY LAST IS IF WE DID THE 15 YEAR LEASE, WHAT HAPPENS IN 15 YEARS IF WE NEED THAT SPACE? WE SAY WE NEED UNFORTUNATELY, THAT YOU'LL HAVE TO MOVE OUT AND THEN WE TAKE OVER THE BUILDING. IN THE FIELD ESSENTIALLY AGAIN. AND I DON'T I REALLY DON'T WANT TO DO THAT AT ALL. THAT WOULD NOT BE ONE OF THE THINGS I WOULD WANT TO DO.
AND SO AND I THINK THE LIKELIHOOD AFTER DISCUSSIONS AGAIN, I'M, I DON'T WANT TO BE THE ONE SPEAKING OUT OF TURN. THE LIKELIHOOD OF US NEEDING THAT SPOT FOR FUTURE SCHOOL GROWTH WITH THE POTENTIAL OF THE POOL AREA, YOU'RE GOING TO NEED THE POOL AREA MORE THAN YOU'RE GOING TO NEED. THE MIRACLE, BECAUSE THE SIZE OF THE LOT THAT COULD BE. YEAH. AND SO THE CHANCE OF US NEEDING THAT SPOT FOR FUTURE SCHOOL GROWTH, I THINK, WOULD BE VERY LOW. AND THEN IT WILL BE A DIFFICULT THING TO REMOVE. YEAH, YEAH I DON'T. YOU SAID YOUR BOARD IS
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NOT FAVORABLE ON POTENTIALLY MOVING MIRACLE FIELD AND TO A DIFFERENT SITE WHERE ADAPTIVE SPORTS COULD BE RIGHT NEXT TO IT. WE HAD GOTTEN TO THE POINT WHERE, AGAIN, SOMEHOW FIGURING OUT A $2 MILLION COST OF MOVING THE FIELD, WHICH AND GETTING OVER THE LOSS OF THE WORK AND TIME PUT INTO GETTING THAT BUILT THERE. YEAH, IF IT MEANT IT WAS RIGHT FOR THE SCHOOLS. SEVERAL THAT OUR TWO LARGEST DONORS WHO WERE ADAMANT NOT TO MOVE. SO IF IT HAD TO BE DONE FOR THE SCHOOLS, THAT WOULD BE FINE. IF THEY FIGURED IF WE COULD FIGURE OUT A $2 MILLION COST TO MOVE IT NOW. AND THAT BROUGHT UP DISCUSSIONS ON THE ROAD PROJECT AND OTHER AREAS OF AND THAT HAS ALL FALLEN OUT OF FAVOR FOR THE ABILITY TO RIGHT NOW, THERE'S NO OTHER OPTIONS, AND WE DON'T HAVE $2 MILLION TO MOVE THE MIRACLE FIELD. AND MOST OF THE MONEY THAT WE HAD RAISED WITH ADAPTIVE SPORTS IS NOW GONE TO THEIR OTHER FACILITY. AND SO WE HAVE A GOOD PORTION OF THIS MONEY COMMITTED, BUT WE'LL BE A LITTLE BIT IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LITTLE BIT TO GET THE REST OF THE CYCLE. IF THIS FAILS TO BE APPROVED, WHAT DO YOU LOOK TO DO NEXT THEN WOULD THE ADAPTIVE SPORTS BUILDING NOT HAPPEN AT THIS TIME? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? AT ANY LOCATION? IT IS.SHARON CAN SPEAK, BUT AT THIS POINT THERE WOULD BE NO OTHER OPTION AND WE WOULD CONTINUE WITH THE MIRACLE LEAGUE PROGRAMING, TRY TO FUNDRAISE FOR A BATHROOM FACILITY LIKE WE HAD FIVE YEARS AGO BEFORE THIS CONCEPT CAME UP AND. I ASSUME ADAPTIVE WOULD LOOK FOR ANOTHER COMMUNITY TO BUILD. SO THAT YOU WE DON'T HAVE THEY CAN'T FUNCTION IN TWO LOCATIONS OR WHAT THEY WOULD POSSIBLY FUNCTION IN TWO LOCATIONS IF IT IF THIS DIDN'T WORK. WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT? I MEAN, IN OTHER WORDS, DOES ADAPTIVE SPORTS THAT IS THE FACILITY COMPLETELY GO AWAY IF IT CAN'T BE BESIDE THE MIRACLE FIELD, OR IF WE CAN FIND ANOTHER LOCATION, COULD THAT HAPPEN? AND THE AND THE PARK CONCEPT BRINGS A LOT TO THE TABLE. AND THAT'S THE IDEA. IT'S CO PROGRAMING AND THE ABILITY TO USE ALL FACILITIES. SO IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY RULE OUT THAT IDEA. IT JUST MAKES IT LESS IDEAL. YES KEVIN DURING THE DAY WHO HAS ACCESS TO THIS FACILITY I UNDERSTAND THE FIELDHOUSE IS PROBABLY A DIFFERENT BEAST BECAUSE IT WOULD HAVE TO BE STAFFED. BUT YOU KNOW, AS IT SITS ON A SUMMER DAY, IS THE COMMUNITY HAVE ACCESS TO THIS PLAYGROUND, WILL HAVE ACCESS TO THE BIKE PATH TO THE PLAYGROUND AREA. I'M ASSUMING WE'LL HAVE TO FIGURE OUT A LITTLE BIT OF THE ADAPTIVE PITCH USAGE, DEPENDING ON THE PROGRAMING THAT'S IN THAT. AND THEN THE FIELDHOUSE WILL HAVE SOME PROGRAMING WHICH WOULDN'T BE FULLY COMMUNITY RUN.
AND I UNDERSTAND THIS IS A PLAYGROUND THAT'S GEARED TOWARD, YOU KNOW, ADAPTIVE SPORTS. BUT I MEAN, I DON'T SEE WHAT DIFFERENCE THIS IS FROM A IT LOOKS LIKE A FUN PLAYGROUND FOR ALL KIDS, NOT JUST KIDS. IT'S TRULY IT'S TRULY INCLUSIVE. YOU KNOW, I WOULD ARGUE THAT MUCH OF THE PLAYGROUND, YOU CAN GET KIDS TO OUR PLAYGROUNDS, BUT THERE'S NOT AS MUCH FOR THEM TO ENJOY OR TO USE. AND SO THIS WOULD BE TRUE. WHEELCHAIR SWINGS. THERE'S DIFFERENT NOT QUITE SHOWN IN THESE RENDERINGS. THERE'S DIFFERING LEVELS OF. WHAT'S THE WORD I'M LOOKING FOR. BASICALLY THINGS ARE HIGHER THAN LOWER. SO CHAIRS CAN GET UP AND DOWN. THE SLIDES START TO GO DOWN RATHER THAN GO UP TO GO DOWN, THAT KIND OF THING. BUT IT'S A COMMUNITY. IT TRULY IS A COMMUNITY PLACE.
IT WOULD BE A COMMUNITY ASSET. IT WOULD BE A COMMUNITY ASSET AND OPEN FULL TIME. AND THE FINANCIAL ASK OF THE CITY IS WHAT RIGHT NOW, THAT HASN'T EVEN BEEN DETERMINED. WE HAVEN'T ASKED FOR ANYTHING IN THE LEASE. HAVE WE EVER HAD ANY DISCUSSIONS ABOUT IS IT POSSIBLE OR FEASIBLE TO DO SOME SORT OF A TRAFFIC STUDY OF HOW THIS IMPACTS THAT AREA, LIKE WE WOULD WHEN WE HAVE A DEVELOPMENT SOMEWHERE? I MEAN, MAYBE WE FIND OUT THAT, YOU KNOW, 99% OF THE ISSUE IS GOING TO BE THE SCHOOL AND 1% IS ADAPTIVE SPORTS. AND WE'RE ALL SO STRESSED ABOUT HOW THAT AFFECTS THE TRAFFIC AND ALL OF THAT. IS THERE SOMETHING WE COULD DO THAT WOULDN'T COST US A FORTUNE TO JOE, TO, YOU KNOW, MAYBE GET A BETTER SENSE OF THE IMPACT? WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO A TRAFFIC STUDY, IF THAT WOULD BE COUNCIL'S WISH. MIKE, WOULD YOU WANT TO ELABORATE ON THAT? YEAH, I THINK I THINK THE POINT'S BEEN MADE, AND I THINK IT'S FAIRLY ACCURATE THAT WHEN
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YOU CONSIDER THE TIMING OF TRAFFIC EVENTS AND THINGS RELATIVE TO THE FIELD AND TO THE TO THE PLAIN TOWNSHIP POOL, THEY'RE GENERALLY OFF OFF TIMING WITH THOSE OF THE PEAK SCHOOL TIMES. SO I THINK AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT'S MY OPINION THAT IF THERE'S PARKING AND THERE'S MANEUVERABILITY AND ACCESS, THAT'S SUFFICIENT FOR THE NEEDS OF THE SCHOOL, I THINK THAT WOULD IN MY MIND, I THINK THAT WOULD ACCOMMODATE THE NEEDS OF THESE, THESE FACILITIES AS WELL.BUT THE ADAPTIVE SPORTS HOURS ARE THE SAME HOURS AS THE SCHOOL AND THE SAME TIMES A YEAR.
THAT'S WHEN I'M MISSING SOMETHING THERE. I AGREE WITH YOU ABOUT THE POOL, AND I AGREE WITH YOU ABOUT THE MIRACLE FIELD. AND THAT'S ACTUALLY WAS A PART OF WHY I WAS MUCH MORE COMFORTABLE WITH THE MIRACLE FIELD WHEN WE FIRST DISCUSSED IT, BUT IS AN ADAPTIVE SPORTS PRECISELY GOING TO OVERLAY THE SAME TIMES AS THE SCHOOL? WELL, IF I HEARD SUPERINTENDENT SAWYER, MAYBE, YOU KNOW, MOST MAJORITY OF PROGRAMING FOR THE ADAPTIVE IS GOING TO BE EVENING, WEEKEND OR EVENING, EXCEPT FOR THE DAYTIME. THAT WOULD INVOLVE THE SCHOOL THAT TRAFFIC IS ALREADY ON CAMPUS. THEY'RE ALREADY THEY'RE ALREADY. FOR THE SAKE OF THE RECORD, IF WE COULD GET ONE SPEAKER AT A TIME AND PREFERABLY AT A MICROPHONE, JUST FOR THE RECORD, THANK YOU. SO THEN YOU DON'T SEE A TRAFFIC STUDY AS AN APPROPRIATE. YEAH, I DON'T I THINK AND I, I'M NOT TRYING TO PUT WORDS IN ANYONE'S MOUTH HERE, BUT I THOUGHT I HEARD YOU SAY SOMETHING THAT THERE MIGHT BE 11 STUDENTS CURRENTLY THAT PARTICIPATE LIKE WITHIN THE SCHOOL DAY 111 I'M SORRY. OKAY. THERE'S 111 STUDENTS THAT ARE IDENTIFIED FOR SPECIAL EDUCATION SERVICES THAT RECEIVE ADAPTIVE PE SERVICES, BUT THAT'S PRE-K THROUGH 12. SO NOT ALL OF THOSE STUDENTS WOULD BE USING THIS FACILITY DURING THE SCHOOL DAY. PART OF IT WOULD BE PROXIMAL TO WHERE'S THE GRADE LEVEL, WHAT'S THE TRAVEL TIME TO GET THERE. SO IMMEDIATELY COME 2027, THE PRE-K BUILDING AND THE KINDERGARTEN HALF DAY PLUS THE FULL DAY K FIRST AND SECOND GRADE IN THE NEW SCHOOL. SO PRE-K THROUGH TWO WOULD BE PROXIMAL TO THIS FACILITY AS PROPOSED. THEY ARE LIKELY MOST LIKELY TO USE THAT FACILITY DURING THE SCHOOL DAY. OTHER STUDENTS ON CAMPUS THAT WOULD BECOME GRADES 3 TO 12, THREE THROUGH 12 WOULD BE DEPENDENT UPON THE TRAVEL TIME AND PROGRAMING THAT WOULD BE NECESSARY TO MEET THE SPECIFIC NEEDS OF THAT STUDENT THAT'S PRESCRIBED DURING ADAPTIVE PHYSICAL EDUCATION. SO THERE'S A SPECIALIZED PLAN FOR EACH STUDENT, RIGHT? I'M NOT AS CONCERNED ABOUT OUR KIDS ON CAMPUS BECAUSE AGAIN, IT'S ABOUT GETTING IN AND OUT OF THE CAMPUS. MY QUESTION IS, ARE WE SAYING THAT DURING THE DAY, THE ONLY USE FOR THAT FACILITY WOULD BE KIDS ON OUR CAMPUS? IS THAT WHAT I'M HEARING TODAY? VERY LIMITED PROGRAMING DURING THE DAY OF NON-SCHOOL. SHARON, YOU CAN YOU WOULD AGREE WITH THAT? YES. OUR PROGRAM IS BEGAN AFTER HOURS. OKAY. WOULD IT BE POSSIBLY HAPPENING RIGHT WHEN SCHOOL LETS OUT. OR YOU COULD COME UP AND INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND SO I CAN GET YOU ON THE RECORD, PLEASE. THANK YOU. PEOPLE COMING FROM DIFFERENT SCHOOL DISTRICTS IS THAT THE IDEA DOES POP UP. I JUST WANT TO MAKE ME IN THE MORNING. MY NAME IS PRESTON SHEPHERD. I AM THE PROGRAM EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AND CEO FOR ADAPTIVE SPORTS CONNECTION. SO YES, MOST OF OUR THE BULK OF OUR PROGRAMING IS AFTER HOURS. IF WE'RE PROGRAMING FOR KIDS, WE CAN'T PROGRAM FOR THEM UNTIL THEY'RE DONE WITH SCHOOL AND THEN COME OVER TO US. SO IT ISN'T LIKELY TO OVERLAP.
OUR DAYTIME IS VERY MINIMAL. WE DO SOME ADULT AND VETERAN PROGRAMING, BUT AGAIN, YOU'RE NOT TALKING LARGE NUMBERS. I GUESS I JUST DON'T WANT TO SEE SHUTTLES STARTING TO SHOW UP RIGHT AS THE SCHOOL BUSSES ARE GOING OUT, WOULD WE HAVE SOME SORT OF COULD THERE BE LIKE A BUFFER TIME THERE? WHERE? THERE USUALLY IS? AND IN ADDITION TO THE ACCESS TO THE INDIVIDUALS AS OUR VOLUNTEER BASE THAT WE USE TO OPERATE ALL OF OUR PROGRAMING, WE RELY ON FOLKS AND THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO GET OUT OF WORK AND GET TO US. SO A LOT OF OUR STUFF STARTS AT 530, 6:00 IN THE EVENING. OKAY. DO YOU HAVE ANY BUILDINGS THAT ARE ON A SCHOOL PROPERTY LIKE THIS? PROPOSED ONE WOULD BE NOT CURRENTLY. OUR CURRENT SITE IS OKAY. IS THERE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE SCHOOL TO USE THIS BUILDING OUTSIDE OF ADAPTIVE SPORTS? I KNOW SPACE IS AT A PREMIUM, ESPECIALLY DURING THE WINTER, AND IF THERE'S NOT NECESSARILY PROGRAMING THERE, WOULD IT BE OPEN TO THE COMMUNITY OR EVEN THE SCHOOLS TO BE ABLE TO USE THAT SPACE? SO I'M SURE THERE WOULD BE SOME LIMITATION TO THAT. BUT WE ARE WE ALWAYS ARE OPEN TO PARTNERSHIPS WITH
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SCHOOLS. WE WORK WITH MULTIPLE SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND WE INVITE THEM TO OUR SPACE. I'M SORRY, I SHOULD HAVE THANK YOU. I SPECIFIC TO THE FIELDHOUSE. THANK YOU. THAT WAS A MORE SPECIFIC TO THE FIELDHOUSE. YES. OKAY. YEAH. I FEEL MUCH MORE COMFORTABLE HEARING WHAT YOU'VE JUST SAID ABOUT IT BEING PRIMARILY EVENINGS. THAT DOES MAKE ME FEEL MUCH BETTER ABOUT IT. ARE YOU COMFORTABLE WITH THAT BEING, YOU KNOW, SOMEHOW WRITTEN INTO THE LEASE? NOT THAT YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING BUT THAT THERE'S AN UNDERSTANDING. YEAH, IT OBVIOUSLY WOULDN'T BE SOMETHING WHERE WE COULD GIVE A SPECIFIC NUMBER, AN ABSOLUTE BINDING, BUT THAT THERE IS AN INTENTION AND UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN THE PARTIES THAT WILL BE PRIMARILY THAT TYPE OF A FACILITY AND THAT THAT CAN'T CHANGE IN THIS 15 YEARS. AND SUDDENLY WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, A HUGE INFLUX DURING THE DAY IS THAT. SOMETHING YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH? AM I OVERREACHING? YOU CAN BE HONEST. I'M JUST WE'RE TRYING TO SORT IT OUT WHERE WE NEED TO MAKE IT WORK, AND WE'LL THERE'S NO REASON WE WOULDN'T ACCOMMODATE THE SCHOOL DAY. THERE'S NO REASON WE WOULDN'T ACCOMMODATE ANY OF THE CITY'S NEEDS TO GET IT DONE. DOES IT NEED TO BE A LEGAL DOCUMENT? I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THAT. WELL, AND I APPRECIATE THAT. I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT I I'M AN ATTORNEY AND I'M THINKING ALWAYS I'M TALKING TO YOU TODAY, BUT SOMEBODY ELSE IS STANDING HERE IN 7 OR 8 YEARS. AND, YOU KNOW, THE MODEL HAS CHANGED OF OPERATION. AND DO WE HAVE SOME WAY TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T SUDDENLY AGAIN HAVE 50 SHUTTLE BUSSES SHOWING UP AT 2:00? YOU KNOW, JUST WAYS TO PROTECT OURSELVES SO THAT SUDDENLY WE DON'T HAVE A DIFFERENT DEAL THAN WE THOUGHT WE DID. I THINK WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY WITH THE ADDITIONAL SCHOOL BUILDING THERE TO ENGINEER THAT INTERSECTION AT FODOR AND THE SCHOOL TO NOT JUST ACCOMMODATE THE SCHOOL, BUT WE CAN INCORPORATE WHATEVER TRAFFIC WOULD BE GENERATED BY THE ADAPTIVE SPORT AND MIRACLE FIELD FACILITIES, WHICH I DO THINK TO MIKE'S POINT, 99% OF IT IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE DRIVEN BY THE DISTRICT, AND THEN WE CAN ACCOMMODATE WHATEVER WE ENGINEER IS GOING TO BE ADDED BY THIS FACILITY. I THINK THAT SCHOOL ALONE IS GOING TO PROBABLY HAVE US DO A TRAFFIC STUDY. I MEAN, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO ONE REGARDLESS. SO I MEAN, FOR THAT, THAT SITE, IF I'M HEARING YOU RIGHT, MIKE. MY THOUGHT IS ALSO IF WE DECIDE NOT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS AND I'M GOING TO SPEAK FOR MYSELF ONLY I WOULD BE I WOULD ENTERTAIN SOME SORT OF PARTNERSHIP SLASH DISCUSSION IF IT NEEDED TO BE MOVED TO KEEP IT TOGETHER. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I WOULD DEFINITELY WANT TO TALK ABOUT FROM A CITY PERSPECTIVE. IF THERE'S THINGS THAT WE COULD DO TO HELP FACILITATE THAT PROCESS, I UNDERSTAND. OBVIOUSLY THE COST IS THE MAIN CONCERN, SO I'M NOT GOING TO COMMIT TO ANYTHING, BUT I DEFINITELY WOULD WANT TO BE PART OF HELPING THAT HAPPEN TO KEEP BOTH, YOU KNOW, MIRACLE FIELD, WHICH YOU'RE GOING TO BE HERE, BUT TO KEEP THOSE TWO TOGETHER, BECAUSE I DO AGREE WITH YOU, I THINK IT'S BETTER TO HAVE THEM TOGETHER THAN TO HAVE THEM SEPARATE. IT MAKES TOO MUCH SENSE. AND I GUESS TO PIGGYBACK ON THAT, I THINK IT MAKES SENSE TO HAVE MIRACLE FIELD ADAPTIVE SPORTS AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IN CLOSE PROXIMITY FOR THE REASONS THAT DOCTOR SAWYERS TOUCHED ON. WELL, THEY'RE THEY'RE RECEIVING ADAPTIVE ACTIVITIES NOW, CORRECT? I MEAN, THEY HAVE BEEN WITHOUT ADAPTIVE SPORTS. SO I THINK THEY'RE STILL GETTING WHETHER IT'S THERE OR NOT. BUT THIS WOULD HELP THAT PROBABLY ENRICH IT EVEN MORE, I WOULD ASSUME. YEAH. DOCTOR KLINGLE, I APPRECIATE YOU COMING BACK OUT TONIGHT TO TALK TO US ABOUT THIS. AND, YOU KNOW, YOUR YOUR PASSION BEHIND THIS PROJECT IS SOMETHING EVERYONE IN OUR COMMUNITY SHOULD BE PROUD OF. I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU AND YOUR FAMILY HAVE DONE TO MOVE THIS PROJECT FORWARD AND HELP THESE YOUNG PEOPLE THAT ARE JUST LOOKING TO BE KIDS, AND I APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH. I DID NOT BRING A COPY OF THE MINUTES FROM THE MEETING THAT YOU REFERENCED IN YOUR MATERIALS, BUT I DO RECALL THE DISCUSSION FOCUSING, YOU KNOW, ON ON TWO THINGS. ONE, TRYING TO GET SOME LEVEL OF COMMITMENT FROM THE CITY TO ADAPTIVE SPORTS FOR THIS FACILITY VIA LEASE TO ASSIST WITH THE FUNDRAISING EFFORTS AND TO PROVIDE A WINDOW THERE WHERE YOU HAD SOME LEVEL OF COMMITMENT FROM THE CITY TO ALSO ASSIST WITH THE FUNDRAISING EFFORTS. OBVIOUSLY, THIS IS A PRETTY AMBITIOUS PLAN. IT'S GOING TO TAKE, YOU KNOW, A FAIR AMOUNT OF MONEY TO CONSTRUCT ANY UPDATES ON WHERE EVERYTHING IS WITH THE[00:40:06]
FUNDRAISING EFFORTS, THE AGAIN, SOME OF THE STATE FUNDS THAT WE HAD THAT ADAPTIVE SPORTS HAD OBTAINED HAS GONE TO THEIR OTHER TO FINISH OFF SINCE THIS WAS DELAYED. AND WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO GET TO THE SLIDE REAL QUICK. SO IF WE LOOK AT THE CURRENT SPACE, THIS WAS THE INITIAL COST ANALYSIS. AGAIN WE HAVE A THE YOU LOOK JUST GO DOWN THROUGH THIS. MOST OF THE IF NOT ALL THE CONCESSION BUILDING AND PLAZA HAS BEEN RAISED. THE OUTDOOR FITNESS PAVILION HAS NOT. THE SOCCER PITCH HAS BEEN DONATED. MUCH OF THE ADAPTIVE BIKE COURSE HAS BEEN ACCOMPLISHED. THE PLAYGROUND WAS PUT ON HOLD BECAUSE WE DIDN'T KNOW IF THIS WAS GOING TO GO AHEAD. AND THEN CURRENTLY THERE'S JARED. YOU MENTIONED THERE'S, YOU KNOW, A SEVEN FIGURE SIX FIGURE. ASK TO SEVERAL PLACES. AND THAT WE'RE WAITING ON THAT. THEY'RE JUST WAITING TO KNOW WHERE THIS IS GOING IF THEY'RE GOING TO APPROVE. AND SO A GOOD PORTION OF THIS YOU KNOW, THE CONTINGENCIES, THE LAND IMPROVEMENTS AND THE MAIN FIELDHOUSE IS WHERE MOST OF THIS COST COMES FROM. IT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME. WE'LL HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE COLUMBUS FOUNDATION, WHO'VE BEEN ON OUR PARTNERSHIP TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN. AND I THINK HONESTLY, WITH THE AWARENESS AND THE EVENTS WE'VE HAD HERE IN THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS, I THINK WE CAN RAISE THIS MONEY CONFIDENTLY, VERY QUICKLY IF WE KNOW WHERE IT'S GOING AND WE CAN DRIVE IT FORWARD. FROM THE. IS THE PLAN TO BUILD PART OF THIS UNTIL ALL THE FUNDING IS COMPLETE? IN OTHER WORDS, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A LIST OF PRIORITIES WITHIN THIS LAST. WELL, WE HAD THE BIKE COURSE BECAUSE IT SEEMED THE MOST SIMPLE AND MUCH OF THE IS AN EASIER THING TO BUILD WITH THE FIELDHOUSE AND THE BATHROOM FACILITY IS PRIORITY NUMBER ONE. THE EXISTING AIRFIELD WHICH GOES INTO THE FIELDHOUSE. SO WE'LL PRIORITIZE THE FIELDHOUSE CONCESSION BUILDING FIRST. THAT WILL EASILY ALLOW THE JUST THE SITE ITSELF. WE ALREADY HAVE THE SOCCER PITCH, WHICH IS PART OF PHASE ONE. THE PLAYGROUND WOULD BE WHAT WOULD PROBABLY BE PHASED IN IF NEEDED TO BE OKAY. AND THEN SO MY NEXT QUESTION IS, ASSUMING YOU HAD ALL THE RESOURCES YOU NEEDED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH CONSTRUCTION FROM THE DATE THAT THAT HAPPENS, HOW LONG DOES THIS PROJECT TAKE TO BUILD? WE'VE BEEN TOLD BY GILLIAN TURNER, LESS THAN A YEAR. LESS THAN A YEAR. ALL RIGHT. BECAUSE I THINK ONE OF MY CONCERNS WAS, YOU KNOW, WE ENTERED INTO THIS 15 YEAR LEASE.IT TAKES FIVE YEARS TO FUNDRAISE. IT TAKES ANOTHER YEAR AND A HALF TO BUILD. YOU GOT SIX YEARS, SEVEN YEARS LEFT ON THE LEASE. I MEAN, THE USEFUL LIFE OF THE BUILDINGS AND EQUIPMENT ARE FAR LONGER THAN THE LEASE TERM, AND WE'RE STUCK IN A POSITION WHERE THE COMMUNITY NEEDS THE GROUND FOR ADDITIONAL CAMPUS EXPANSION. THE ORIGINAL DISCUSSION WHEN WE WERE PLANNING ON POSSIBLY DIGGING AT THE END OF THIS MIRACLE LEAGUE SEASON, WAS THAT WE WOULD NOT DELAY OR ANYTHING, HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE FOLLOWING YEAR. OKAY. AND THEN I GUESS MY FINAL QUESTION IS WE'VE SEEN SEVERAL. RENDITIONS OF WHAT THIS WOULD LOOK LIKE. THESE SEEMS A LITTLE BIT MORE UNDERSTATED THAN SOME OF THE ONES WE'VE SEEN IN THE PAST. I JUST WANT TO BE CAREFUL THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GOING TO GET SOME PUSHBACK ON SOME OF THE LOGO PLACEMENTS. WE, YOU KNOW, THIS CAN'T LOOK LIKE NASCAR. THE PLAYGROUND IS BASIC RENDERING JUST WITH NO REAL INPUT OTHER THAN SHOW US WHAT YOU CAN MAKE WITH AN ADAPTER FOR MORE DONOR DRIVEN. I MEAN, I GET THE NEED TO, YOU KNOW, RAISE DONOR DOLLARS. THAT'S SUPER IMPORTANT. IT'S GOT TO BE DONE IN AN UNDERSTATED, TASTEFUL WAY. THIS IS HOPEFULLY THE REST OF THE FACILITY SUGGEST THAT BECAUSE IT WAS. OH, ABSOLUTELY. THAT IN MIND? WELL, THE PLAYGROUND RENDERINGS HAVE NOT BEEN REVIEWED, DISCUSSED OR FINALIZED BY ANY MEANS. OKAY. CAN THE CREW LOGO STAY? YEAH, AS LONG AS IT SAYS AIDEN MORRIS UNDERNEATH IT. DO YOU STILL EXPECT TO HAVE AN ASK A FINANCIAL ASK FROM US BEYOND THE LAND ITSELF? I'LL ALWAYS ASK, YOU KNOW THAT I COME. ITS FINANCIAL NEED AGAIN.
I THINK WHERE THE CITY WOULD REALLY HELP US WOULD BE COMING INTO THE. PLANNING, THE AND HELPING WITH THE ROAD IMPROVEMENTS IS WHAT'S GOING TO BE THE, IF ANYTHING, FROM THE CITY, WHICH IS WHERE YOU HELPED LAST TIME SIGNIFICANTLY FOR THE MIRACLE BUILDING, THE ADAPTIVE PARKING AREA FOR. SO WE'RE WE'RE WE'RE READY AND WILLING TO TAKE THIS COST ON. IT'S. ANY PLACES.
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YEAH. ONE FINAL QUESTION. AND COUNCIL MEMBER BURRIS SORT OF HINTED AT IT. WE GET TO THE END OF THIS LEASE TERM AND THERE'S STILL USEFUL LIFE LEFT IN THE EQUIPMENT IN SPACE. BUT YOUR LEASE IS UP. I GUESS YOU'RE FORCED TO SELL TO A WILLING BUYER THE EQUIPMENT. THE LAND REVERTS BACK TO THE CITY. DOES THE CITY HAVE RESPONSIBILITY TO PAY FOR IT? HOW DO WE AGAIN, THE DAMN LAWYERS IN THE ROOM TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW, HOW DOES THIS RELATIONSHIP WIND UP? IF YOU HAVE A GROUND LEASE, WHICH TYPICALLY IS GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE LIFETIME OF THE MIRACLE FIELDS, 10 TO 12 YEARS. SO THAT HASN'T BEEN A BIG ISSUE WITH MIRACLE, RIGHT? SURFACE.NOT NECESSARILY THE. AND HONESTLY, WE'VE NEVER REALLY CONSIDERED THAT BECAUSE IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE WOULD EVER CONSIDER TEARING DOWN. BUT. RIGHT I MEAN AND THE TYPICAL GROUND LEASE WOULD MEAN THAT THE BUILDING BECOMES OURS. IT BECOMES UNLESS, UNLESS THEY WANT TO TAKE IT WELL, WHICH THEY COULD PICK IT UP. AND TECHNICALLY IT'S THEIR BUILDING, BUT IF THEY WANT TO TAKE IT, THEY CAN. IF THAT IS TRUE, IT BECOMES MORE COST EFFECTIVE TO PUT IT ON WHEELS.
FROM PEOPLE THAT I KNOW THAT THE LAND LEASE AGREEMENT MAKES IT SUCH THAT IT BECOMES THE CITY.
SO CITY PROPERTY. IT TYPICALLY DOESN'T BEHOOVE THE OWNER TO REMOVE THE ITEMS THAT THEY'VE CONSTRUCTED ON THE FACILITY. RIGHT. SO BUT AGAIN, IT DOES KIND OF COME BACK TO ARE WE GOING TO ALL BE OKAY WITH THIS IF WE REALLY DO NEED IT IN 15 YEARS, ARE YOU GOING TO FEEL LIKE YOU'VE GOTTEN YOUR FUNDRAISER'S MONEY OUT OF IT? AND WE NOW NEED THIS SPOT BACK? ARE WE GOING TO ALL HAVE A LOT OF HARD FEELINGS WITH EACH OTHER, OR ARE WE GOING TO BE OKAY WITH TAKING BACK THAT BUILDING? GOING TO A 15 YEAR LEASE IS A BIG STEP FOR THIS SIZE OF A COMMITMENT FOR ADAPTIVE SPORTS. AGAIN, MIRACLE LEAGUE. WE'LL GET GOOD USE FOR HOW MANY YEARS YOU LET US USE IT. BUT I'M NOT GOING TO SPEAK FOR ADAPTIVE SPORTS BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE PUTTING TOGETHER A BIG FACILITY. THAT YOU'RE REPRESENTING OUR FIELD OUT 20 YEARS FROM NOW, I STILL HAVE HARD FEELINGS ABOUT. IT DOESN'T MEAN WE DIDN'T GET GOOD USE OUT. UNDERSTOOD. GOOD. THANKS. I DON'T I MEAN, CHIP MAY STILL BE HERE, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE ELSE WILL STILL BE HERE IN 15 YEARS. BUT COUNCIL AT THAT TIME, YOU KNOW, WE WE'RE GIVING THEM THE OPTION IF IT IS NEEDED BY THE DISTRICT OR THERE'S ANOTHER NEED IN THE COMMUNITY WHERE WE CAN'T HAVE THE LAND BACK. RIGHT. AND THAT, I MEAN, I DON'T SEE US EVER HAVING A COMMITMENT THAT'S THERE WITH THE MIRACLE FIELD, RIGHT? I MEAN, I DON'T SEE US EVER HAVING A COUNCIL THAT WOULD TAKE IT JUST FOR SPITE, BECAUSE WE'RE THERE HAVE TO BE A REALLY GOOD REASON. AND IT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, THAT IT'S FIVE YEAR, YOU KNOW, OPTIONS AFTER THAT. RIGHT.
AND CONTINUE TO ASSESS THE NEED WITH THE DISTRICT AND THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY? NO, OBVIOUSLY NO. MY CONCERN IS IF WE DO IF AND YOU'RE RIGHT, IT WON'T BE WE. BUT IF SOMEBODY REALLY DOES NEED IT, BUT YOU'RE AWARE OF YOU KNOW HOW THAT WORKS AND YOU'VE OFFERED THAT COMMITMENT. SO OKAY. ALL RIGHT, JOE, WHAT DO YOU MEAN WHAT DO WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD? BASED ON THE APPROVAL OF THE LAST RESOLUTION? I THINK IF THERE IS A. SOME TYPE OF AN AFFIRMATIVE MOTION ON THE PART OF COUNCIL TO MOVE FORWARD, AND I CAN WORK WITH WITH BEN, WE'LL WE'LL DRAFT A LEASE THAT COULD BE ASSUMING THAT IT'S AGREED TO BY ADAPTIVE SPORTS. AND THEN WE WOULD WE WOULD SIGN THE LEASE.
CAN WE PUT SOME CONDITIONS ON THAT. YEAH I CAN I CAN ONCE WE GET A DRAFT APPROVED I CAN SHARE THAT WITH COUNCIL BEFORE WE WOULD SUBMIT THAT TO ADAPTIVE SPORTS. MAKE SURE THAT IT HAS EVERYTHING IN IT THAT THAT YOU WANT TO INCLUDE. BEN AND I WORK TOWARD THAT. WE HAVE A WE HAVE THE TEMPLATE, THE BASIC LEASE AGREEMENT THAT WE'VE USED FOR MIRACLE FIELD. SO WE WOULD PROBABLY BASE IT ON THAT AND THEN ADD SOME SOME ELEMENTS TO ADDRESS THESE ADDITIONAL ISSUES.
DO WE NEED TO STATE THOSE CONDITIONS HERE AND NOW? I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU NEED TO STATE THE SPECIFIC CONDITIONS. NOW WE TOOK THEM ALL NOTES AND WE CAN PUT THEM IN THE DRAFT. AND IT'S STILL GOING TO BE LIKE JOE SAID HE CAN TAKE IT BACK TO EVERYBODY FOR APPROVAL. I DO THINK I TO OUR MAYOR'S POINT, I WOULD WANT SOMETHING THAT JUST CLARIFIES THAT IF THERE WERE SOME CONSTRUCTION BUMPS IN THE ROAD, THAT WE ARE PROTECTED, THAT THIS ISN'T 15 YEARS DOESN'T BECOME 20. I WOULD WANT SOME SORT OF AN OUTSIDE TIME PERIOD THAT IF IT'S NOT, IF THE LEASE HASN'T STARTED
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AND COMMENCED, THAT IT DOESN'T, THAT IT'S NO LONGER AN OBLIGATION. YEAH, I THINK IT SHOULD BE A HARD STOP AND CONCURRENT WITH THE END OF THE MIRACLE FIELD LEASE, IN MY OPINION. I'D ALSO STILL LIKE TO KEEP ON THE TABLE CITY PARTNERING FOR POTENTIAL SITES AS WELL, AND WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE. UNLESS, YOU KNOW, WE DECIDE OTHERWISE. I MEAN, I'M SURE YOU AND YOUR TEAM AND ADAPTIVE SPORTS THAT YOU NEED CERTAINTY, RIGHT? YOU NEED TO KNOW IS THIS KIND OF THERE ARE WE ARE WE IN AGREEMENT. AND THAT'S FAIR. THAT'S FAIR. IT'S I MEAN, WE DID PASS A RESOLUTION BACK IN 2023 TO HAVE THE CITY MANAGER ENTER A LEASE AGREEMENT.THAT RESOLUTION IS STILL GOOD. SO THAT CITY MANAGER STILL HAS THAT AUTHORITY. IF THERE'S ENOUGH INTEREST ON COUNCIL TO BRING THAT ENTIRE LEASE AGREEMENT BACK FOR A VOTE OF APPROVAL AFTER IT'S BEEN NEGOTIATED, I THINK THAT WOULD GIVE YOU CERTAINTY FROM THIS BODY THAT THAT LEASE AGREEMENT HAS BEEN ADOPTED BY CITY COUNCIL, AND THEN YOU'RE YOU'RE EITHER THUMBS UP OR DOWN. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I NEED. THUMBS UP OR DOWN. YEAH. OKAY. SO UNLESS COUNCIL YOU KNOW, BELIEVES OTHERWISE I THINK WE HAVE A RESOLUTION THAT'S STILL ACTIVE THAT ALLOWS THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO NEGOTIATIONS FOR A LEASE AGREEMENT. WE CAN WORK WITH COUNCIL MEMBERS IN THE CITY ATTORNEY ON ANY OF THOSE PARTICULAR TERMS. BRING THE FULL LEASE AGREEMENT BACK FOR A THUMBS UP OR DOWN VOTE, JUST SO WE CAN KNOW WITH CERTAINTY WHAT THOSE REQUIREMENTS WILL BE. DOES THAT WORK? CAN WE PUT A TIME FRAME ON ALL RIGHT. YEAH. IS THAT NEXT COUNCIL MEETING OR SOME TIME A REASONABLE TIME FIRST MEETING IN FEBRUARY. FIRST MEETING IN FEBRUARY IS PROBABLY SAFEST. I MEAN WE COULD MAKE IT WORK NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, BUT LIVES SOMETIMES GET IN THE WAY. SO IF WE WANT TO SAY FIRST MEETING IN FEBRUARY, OKAY, 1ST FEBRUARY, JUST IN TIME FOR VALENTINE'S DAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE WITH US ON THIS. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE STILL UNDER HEARING OF VISITORS OR ANYONE ELSE FROM THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS COUNCIL REGARDING MATTERS NOT ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA. ALL RIGHT. AND FOR THOSE FOLKS THAT WERE JUST HERE TO HEAR ABOUT THE MIRACLE LEAGUE AND ADAPTIVE SPORTS, IF YOU WANT TO GO ENJOY THE REST OF YOUR EVENING. NO, NO PROBLEMS LEAVING EARLY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, DOCTOR SAWYERS. ALL RIGHT. THAT TAKES US TO BOARD AND
[7. BOARD/COMMISSION REPORTS]
COMMISSION REPORTS. PLANNING COMMISSION. COUNCILWOMAN WILTROUT IS OUT. ANY UPDATE FROM STAFF? THERE WAS A MEETING. NO MEETING. ALL RIGHT, PARKS AND TRAILS. ALSO, MR. FELLOWES IS ABSENT. ARAB. NO MEETING. BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS GOING TO BREAK THE STREAK. WE DID HAVE A MEETING. THERE WAS ONE VARIANCE. IT WAS HAWKSMOOR ZONING TEXT. THEY WANTED TO ALLOW A STONE EXTERIOR MATERIAL ABOVE THE FIRST FLOOR LEVEL AT TWO HAWKSMOOR DRIVE. THERE HAS BEEN OTHER HOMES IN THAT SUBDIVISION THAT HAVE HAD THIS EXACT TYPE OF STONE PLACED ON THEIR HOUSE, AND SO IT PASSED UNANIMOUSLY WITH VERY LITTLE DISCUSSION. ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT REPORT? SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD? NOBODY IDEA. IMPLEMENTATION PANEL. SO WE DIDN'T HAVE A MEETING. BUT I DO WANT TO UPDATE EVERYBODY ON SOMETHING VERY EXCITING. I WAS INVITED TODAY TO GO FILM A PROMO FOR THE FACT THAT NOT ONLY DID WE WIN AN AWARD FOR THE NUMBER ONE PROGRAM BY THE FOR HISTORICAL AND CULTURAL ARTS PROGRAMS AND EVENTS FOR FRANKLIN COUNTY, DID WE WIN THAT FOR DIWALI? BUT WE'VE NOW BEEN NOMINATED IN THE TOP THREE FOR A GOVERNOR'S PROGRAM OF EXCELLENCE THAT WILL BE FINALLY AWARDED ON FEBRUARY 4TH FOR THAT PROGRAM WE ARE UP AGAINST. AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR PROJECTS ARE, BUT COLUMBUS RECREATION AND PARKS AND CINCINNATI RECREATION COMMISSION AND THE GENTLEMAN THAT CAME TO INTERVIEW US TODAY SAID THAT THIS WAS THE FIRST TIME IN 13 YEARS THAT IT'S NOT SOME MAJOR PARK OR SOME MAJOR[00:55:03]
EXPANSION OF PARKS AND RECS. IT'S THE FIRST TIME THAT IT'S ACTUALLY JUST A PROGRAM THAT'S UP FOR THE FOR THE AWARD. IT'S CALLED, IF YOU WANT TO LOOK IT UP, THE AWARDS OF EXCELLENCE, OHIO PARKS AND RECREATION ASSOCIATION, IT'S A GOVERNOR'S AWARD. SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT. AND WE'LL WHETHER WE GET THAT TOP ONE ON FEBRUARY 4TH OR NOT, IT'S STILL SOMETHING FOR US TO BE EXTREMELY PROUD OF. AND THAT'S FROM OUR VERY FIRST DIWALI. SO IS THAT THE MEETING THAT THEY HAVE UP NORTH AT? OH, THE PARKS MEETING, THE NATIONAL MEETING THAT THEY HAVE. IT'S.NO, I DON'T THINK SO. I FEEL LIKE IT'S RIGHT BY CEDAR POINT, BUT IT'S LIKE BEAR WOLF CREEK LODGE. OH YEAH. YEAH. THAT IS WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE. YEAH. THAT'S EXACTLY WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE. YEAH. MIRACLE FIELD I THINK KALAHARI AND SANDUSKY. YEAH. MIRACLE FIELD I BELIEVE WON THAT THE ONE YEAR OUR PICKLEBALL COURTS TOOK SECOND. AND THIS IS GREAT THAT IT USUALLY IS. LIKE YOU SAID IT'S USUALLY EXPANSION THINGS OF THE PARK. SO THAT'S PRETTY AMAZING.
SO PRETTY COOL. SO THAT'S THAT'S ALL WE HAVE FOR TODAY. THAT'S EXCITING. CONGRATULATIONS.
AWESOME. ALL RIGHT. ANY UPDATE FROM THE CEMETERY RESTORATION BOARD? NO MEETING AND NO MEETING OF THE PUBLIC RECORDS COMMISSION. ANY CORRESPONDENCE OR COMMUNICATION RECEIVED FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS. THEY'D LIKE TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON. SECOND READING OF ORDINANCE AND PUBLIC
[9. SECOND READING OF ORDINANCES AND PUBLIC HEARING]
HEARING ORDINANCE OH 44 2024 AN ORDINANCE TO CREATE TWO HAMLET TAX INCREMENT FINANCE INCENTIVE DISTRICTS DECLARE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE PARCELS WITHIN EACH INCENTIVE DISTRICT TO BE A PUBLIC PURPOSE AND EXEMPT FROM REAL PROPERTY TAXATION. REQUIRE THE OWNERS OF THOSE PARCELS TO MAKE SERVICE PAYMENTS IN LIEU OF TAXES. PROVIDE FOR THE DISTRIBUTION OF THE APPLICABLE PORTION OF THOSE SERVICE PAYMENTS TO THE NEW ALBANY PLAIN LOCAL SCHOOL DISTRICT AND THE EASTLAND FAIRFIELD CAREER CENTER PROVIDE COMPENSATION PAYMENTS FOR THE PLAIN TOWNSHIP FIRE DEPARTMENT AND TO FRANKLIN COUNTY, ESTABLISH A MUNICIPAL PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT TAX INCREMENT EQUIVALENT FUND AND ACCOUNTS THEREIN FOR THE DEPOSIT OF THE REMAINDER OF THE SERVICE PAYMENTS. SPECIFY THE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS THAT DIRECTLY BENEFIT OR SERVE PARCELS IN THE INCENTIVE DISTRICTS, AND TO IMPROVE AND AUTHORIZE THE EXECUTION OF A TAX INCREMENT FINANCING AGREEMENT. MR. PRESTON? YES, THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO, AS YOU RECALL, IN 2024, CITY COUNCIL VOTED AND APPROVED THE COMPANION ORDINANCE TO THIS, WHICH WAS TO CREATE A TAX INCREMENT FINANCING DISTRICT FOR THE COMMERCIAL PORTION OF WHAT WE CALL THE HAMLET PROJECT.THIS IS THE RESIDENTIAL PORTION OF IT. AND WHAT THIS ORDINANCE DOES IS IT CREATES TWO TAX FINANCING DISTRICTS, THE HAMILTON HAMLET INCENTIVE DISTRICT ONE AND THE HAMLET INCENTIVE DISTRICT TWO, WHICH ARE DIVIDED BY STATE ROUTE 605. THAT'S WHY THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT DISTRICTS. SO THIS IS THE RESIDENTIAL PORTION OF THAT TIF CREATION. IT'S A MIXED USE PROJECT. AND SO IN ORDER TO CREATE A TIF ON THE ENTIRE PROPERTY, WE HAD TO SPLIT IT INTO WHAT'S COMMONLY KNOWN AS RESIDENTIAL TIF AND A COMMERCIAL TIF. AS YOU'RE AWARE, THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THE RESIDENTIAL PORTION AND COMMERCIAL PORTION OF THIS PROJECT WAS APPROVED BY THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD ON SEPTEMBER 9TH, 2024 AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON SEPTEMBER 16TH, 2024. JUST TO REITERATE A COUPLE OF THE POINTS THAT WERE MADE IN THE TITLE OF THE ORDINANCE, THE TIF IS CLASSIFIED AS A NON-SCHOOL TIF, WHICH MEANS IT DOES NOT NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE NEW ALBANY-PLAIN LOCAL SCHOOL DISTRICT. EASTLAND, FAIRFIELD CAREER CENTERS, AND ADDITIONALLY, THE TIF LEGISLATION INCLUDES A PROVISION TO REIMBURSE PLAIN TOWNSHIP FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT PORTION OF THE PROPERTY TAX THAT'S CAPTURED BY THE TIF. THE PROCEDURE FOR ADOPTING A RESIDENTIAL TIF IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. AND SO THE REASON WE DIDN'T BRING THIS FORWARD TO COUNCIL AT THE SAME TIME AS THE COMMERCIAL TIF IS BECAUSE WE HAD TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN A 30 DAY WAIT PERIOD BEFORE WE COULD ADOPT THIS. AND SO THE RULES ARE JUST A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. AND SO THAT'S WHY THIS WAS NOT ADOPTED AT THE SAME TIME THAT THE COMMERCIAL TIF WAS THE TIF WILL ONLY REIMBURSE THE DEVELOPER IF IT GENERATES REVENUE. IT WILL NOT OBLIGATE THE CITY TO COVER THE FULL COST OF THE ENHANCEMENTS. IF THE TIFF DOES NOT GENERATE THE REVENUE TO COVER THEM. THESE ENHANCEMENTS ARE SOMETHING THAT ARE ALREADY BEEN DISCUSSED WITH COUNCIL AT THEIR CAPITAL RETREAT, AND THESE ARE ENHANCEMENTS AS LONG TIME POLICY THAT THE CITY HAS HAD THAT WE DO NOT TIF RESIDENTIAL PROJECTS AND PROVIDE SUPPORT FOR INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THOSE PROJECTS. HOWEVER, THIS IS FOR ALL OF THE PUBLIC COMPONENT AND ENHANCEMENTS OF THE PROJECT THAT ARE IN ADDITION TO WHAT'S REQUIRED BY CODE. THERE HAS BEEN SOME DISCUSSION AND MOST RECENTLY, I THINK, AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING ABOUT THE PROPOSAL FROM THE DEVELOPER TO POTENTIALLY AMEND THE TIF AREA, THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN. THOSE WERE ALL CONCEPTUAL DISCUSSIONS THAT HAPPENED, WE THINK, WHICH IS A GREAT THING IN THE PUBLIC FORUM, SO THAT THESE CONVERSATIONS, WHENEVER THEY'RE BEING PROPOSED, I THINK WE MADE A COMMITMENT, ESPECIALLY TO THE NEIGHBORS IN THIS AREA, THAT WE'RE INTERESTED AND CONCERNED ABOUT THIS PROJECT, THAT IF THERE WERE ANY SORT OF IDEAS OR
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DISCUSSIONS THAT CAME UP, THAT WE WOULD BRING THEM FORWARD AND HAVE A ROBUST DISCUSSION AT OUR PUBLIC BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, WHICH WE DO BELIEVE HAPPENED. HOWEVER, WE DO KNOW THAT THERE'S A CONCERN ON BEHALF OF COUNCIL THAT ANY CHANGES TO A FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN WOULD NOT COME BACK FOR COUNCIL APPROVAL. AND SO IF WE'RE ALLOCATING TIF FUNDS TOWARDS THOSE ENHANCEMENTS, THAT COUNCIL WANTED TO BE SURE THAT THEY HAD ADEQUATE OVERSIGHT OVER HOW THOSE DOLLARS WERE BEING DISPERSED. AND SO WHAT WE'VE DONE IS MODIFY THE ON FILE VERSION OF THE TIF AGREEMENT TO DO TWO THINGS. NUMBER ONE, WE ADDED A VERY STRONG WHEREAS CLAUSE THAT STATES THE ACTUAL APPROVAL DATE FOR THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION AS SEPTEMBER 16TH, 2024. AND THAT CERTAIN PUBLIC AND THEN SPECIFYING THAT CERTAIN PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS CONSISTING OF ROAD CONSTRUCTION AND RELATED IMPROVEMENTS AS DESCRIBED IN SECTION ONE ARE CONSISTENT WITH THAT APPROVAL. THE SECOND THING THAT WE'VE DONE IS WE ADDED A, A PARAGRAPH AS WELL THAT WILL NEED TO BE SLIGHTLY MODIFIED AND STRENGTHENED A LITTLE BIT, JUST BECAUSE WE WERE RUNNING OUT OF TIME A LITTLE BIT AND DIDN'T HAVE A MECHANISM IN PLACE BY WHICH WE WOULD DO THIS, BUT IT SPECIFICALLY STATES RIGHT NOW THE DEVELOPMENT HAS PROCEEDED CONSISTENT WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVAL OR ANY SUBSEQUENT ADJUSTMENT BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO THAT PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVAL THAT HAS BEEN SUBMITTED TO THE CITY COUNCIL. AND THE CITY COUNCIL HAS SUBSEQUENTLY APPROVED CONTINUING DISBURSEMENTS UNDER THIS AGREEMENT. SO A QUESTION SHOULD COME UP AND DID COME UP THAT WHAT IS THE MECHANISM FOR COUNCIL TO APPROVE THAT? AND WE WILL MODIFY THE SECOND HALF OF THIS SENTENCE TO SAY THAT COUNCIL WILL HAVE LEGISLATION THAT WILL BE PRESENTED TO THEM TO APPROVE A MODIFIED TIF AGREEMENT, TO ACCEPT THE FINDINGS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION AS THE MOST RECENT ON FILE VERSION OF FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN, IN ORDER TO QUALIFY THESE DISBURSEMENTS SO THAT CHANGE WILL BE MADE. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IS ACCEPTABLE TO THE DEVELOPER, AND WE WILL GO AHEAD AND KIND OF CLARIFY THAT, THAT LANGUAGE. SO IN ESSENCE, WHAT ALL OF THAT MEANS IS THAT IF WHAT THIS DOES IS THIS APPROVES THE DISBURSEMENT OF FUNDS TO THE DEVELOPER, IF THEY'RE BUILDING WHAT WAS APPROVED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON SEPTEMBER 2024, IF THE DEVELOPER WOULD SUBSEQUENTLY COME BACK AND WANT TO MAKE CHANGES TO THAT PLAN, THAT WOULD REQUIRE CHANGES TO THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT WOULD GO THROUGH THE NORMAL PROCESS OF FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN BY PLANNING COMMISSION. AND THERE'S ALSO A REQUIREMENT WITH THE HAMLET FOR THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD AS WELL. THEY COULD NOT RECEIVE ANY MORE FUNDS FROM THE TIF ACCOUNT UNTIL COUNCIL THEN ADOPTED LEGISLATION TO AMEND THIS AGREEMENT TO MARRY THAT WITH THE APPROVED PLAN. SO YOU WOULD, IN ESSENCE, HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO APPROVE THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN, OR AT LEAST THE DISBURSEMENT OF FUNDS THAT WOULD, YOU KNOW, DIRECTLY GO INTO THE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE ENHANCEMENTS. AS A PART OF THAT CHANGE, I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE. THERE'S A LOT OF WORDS. SO JUST TO BE CLEAR, THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT IS TO THE ACTUAL AGREEMENT, NOT TO THE ORDINANCE. THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY. OKAY. AND JENNIFER, JUST AND I THINK IT'S WORDED THIS WAY BECAUSE IT'S GOT THE RESIDENTIAL TIFF, THE COMMERCIAL TIFF. SO IF THE COMMERCIAL PIECE IS ALTERED IN THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN, BUT THE RESIDENTIAL REMAINS AS APPROVED ON SEPTEMBER 16TH, WE STILL HAVE A RELOOK AT THIS ORDINANCE, EVEN THOUGH THE RESIDENTIAL PIECE OF THE HAMLET STAYED THE SAME AS THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN. THAT'S A FANTASTIC QUESTION AND A VERY GOOD CLARIFICATION. EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE TECHNICALLY TWO TIFF DISTRICTS, THERE'S ONLY ONE TIFF AGREEMENT, SO IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT PORTION OF THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN IS MODIFIED, IT COULD BE THE RESIDENTIAL PORTION OF THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN.ANY MODIFICATION TO THAT FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN, WHETHER IT'S COMMERCIAL OR RESIDENTIAL, WOULD THEN NEED TO IF IT'S ADOPTED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION, A RESOLUTION WOULD NEED TO COME BACK TO AMEND THIS AGREEMENT TO CONFIRM THE NEW DATE OF THAT APPROVAL. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND IT HELPS FROM A THIS ACTUALLY ENDED UP BEING, I THINK, A GOOD THING FOR STAFF AS WELL BECAUSE WE WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO THINK ABOUT WE'VE NEVER REALLY DONE A TIFF LIKE THIS BEFORE. WE'VE NEVER HAD A PROJECT LIKE THIS. AND SO WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO THINK ABOUT IS THE DISBURSEMENT OF THOSE FUNDS AND HOW WE MEASURE WHETHER WHAT WAS BUILT WAS EXACTLY WHAT WAS APPROVED.
AND SO WHAT THIS DOES IS JUST HELP TO ESTABLISH A CLEAR PATH TOWARDS THAT AS WELL. AND USING THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN AS THAT GUIDE FOR US IN ORDER TO DETERMINE REIMBURSEMENTS FOR EXPENSES. YEAH, I APPRECIATE THE ADDITIONAL OVERSIGHT, BOTH ON STAFF AND FOR COUNSEL WITH THIS, BECAUSE I, I REMEMBER LOOKING AT THE ORIGINAL, YOU KNOW, PLAN THAT WAS PRESENTED AT PLANNING COMMISSION. AND I MEAN, IT LOOKED GREAT. AND FEEDBACK I HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY WAS VERY POSITIVE. SO I DO APPRECIATE HAVING THIS IN HERE BECAUSE IF IT WERE TO CHANGE AT
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ANY POINT, I DEFINITELY WOULD WANT TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT. AND IF IT'S RELATED BACK TO THIS AGREEMENT, THAT'S THAT MAKES THAT'S EVEN BETTER. THANK YOU. THE ONLY OTHER THING I WOULD ADD IS THAT AS FAR AS THE CONVERSATION AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING AND JUST THE IDEAS, THESE CONCEPTUAL IDEAS THAT WERE PRESENTED, A LOT OF THAT, AND PERHAPS I SHOULD HAVE SPOKE UP AT THAT MEETING. IT'S I THINK WHAT STAFF HEARD FROM THE RESIDENTS IS THAT THEY WANTED TO BE INVOLVED VERY EARLY IN ANY SORT OF DISCUSSIONS OR PROCESS. AND SO WE DID ENCOURAGE THE DEVELOPER IF THEY HAD ANY IDEAS THAT THEY WERE THINKING ABOUT, EVEN IF IT'S JUST CONCEPTUALLY TO COME FORWARD IN SOME SORT OF BOARD OR COMMISSION, THAT'S SOMETIMES DIFFICULT, BECAUSE THEN WHAT KIND OF PLAYS OUT DOESN'T ALWAYS NECESSARILY COME TO FRUITION, BUT IT DOES REALLY PROVIDE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR EVERYONE TO KIND OF TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND PROVIDE FEEDBACK. IT'S NOT ALWAYS WHAT WE DO AND IT'S NOT CERTAINLY, USUALLY APPLICANTS WANT TO BAKE THEIR IDEAS AND THEN COME FORWARD THROUGH A PUBLIC PROCESS, AS OPPOSED TO JUST THROWING IDEAS OUT AND HAVING THEM OPEN FOR DISCUSSION. AND SO A LOT OF THAT WAS DEFINITELY DIRECTED BY STAFF AND AS, AS A WAY TO KIND OF JUST BE A LITTLE BIT MORE TRANSPARENT WITH THE PUBLIC AT THEIR REQUEST. AS A RESULT OF THIS PARTICULAR APPLICATION. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE ORDINANCE? I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. WOULD ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC LIKE TO SPEAK REGARDING ORDINANCE OH 44 2024? HEARING NO PUBLIC COMMENT. I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.IS THERE A MOTION ON THE ORDINANCE? I MOVE FOR THE ADOPTION OF ORDINANCE? OH 44.
2024 SECOND. COUNCIL MEMBER KISS. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. BRISK. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER.
SHAW. YES. MAYOR. SPALDING. YES. FOUR. YES. VOTES TO ADOPT ORDINANCE OH 44 2024. WE HAVE TO POINT OUT, AS AMENDED. OR IT WAS ALREADY I ASKED IT WAS THE AGREEMENT THAT WAS AMENDED, NOT THE ORDINANCE. ORDINANCE. ORDINANCE OH 48 2024, AN ORDINANCE TO APPROVE THE FINAL PLAT FOR 46 SINGLE FAMILY LOTS ON 29.5 PLUS OR MINUS ACRES, AND ACCEPT RESERVES A, B, I, G AND F1 FOR PHASE ONE OF THE COURTYARDS AT HEINZ CREEK SUBDIVISION, GENERALLY LOCATED AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF CENTRAL COLLEGE ROAD AND JUG STREET INTERSECTION, AS REQUESTED BY EPCON HEINZ CREEK, LLC. MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU. SO THE LOCATION IS ALONG CENTRAL COLLEGE AND JUG STREET AS MENTIONED. SO THIS IS THE FIRST 46 LOTS OF 151 UNIT SUBDIVISION.
THE ZONING REQUIRES THAT 90% OF THE UNITS BE AGE RESTRICTED, AND THAT THERE BE NO RESIDENTS UNDER THE AGE OF 21 ALLOWED. THIS DEED HAS BEEN SUBMITTED TO THE CITY FOR RECORDING ALONG WITH THE PLAT. SO THIS SECTION, THIS INITIAL PHASE OF THE PLAT INCLUDES SIX RESERVES LOCATED IN VARIOUS LOCATIONS. FIVE OF THOSE WILL BE USED FOR PARKLAND AND OPEN SPACE, AND THE PLATS COMMITS THAT THOSE SHALL BE OWNED BY THE CITY AND MAINTAINED BY THE HOA IN PERPETUITY. THERE IS ONE RESERVE AREA LOCATED HERE THAT WILL BE OWNED AND MAINTAINED BY THE HOA FOR A COMMUNITY CENTER, SO THE SUBDIVISION IS NOT MEETING THE PARKLAND AND OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS OF THE CITY SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS. IT IS SHORT, ONE TENTH OF AN ACRE AS REQUIRED BY CITY CODE. THE DEVELOPER HAS COMPLETED AND SUBMITTED AN APPRAISAL OF THE UNIMPROVED LAND, WHICH VALUES IT AT $50,000 AN ACRE. SO TO IN ORDER TO OFFSET THAT ONE TENTH OF AN ACRE SHORTAGE, THE DEVELOPER PROPOSES TO PAY THE CITY $5,000 AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEWED AND RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THIS APPLICATION BY A 5 TO 1 OR BY A 5 TO 0 VOTE, WITH A CONDITION THAT SAYS THAT CITY COUNCIL SHOULD CONSIDER OBTAINING THEIR OWN APPRAISAL FOR THE APPLICANT'S FEE IN LIEU PAYMENTS, AND THAT IT SHOULD PERHAPS BE NO LESS THAN THE VALUE OF THE CITY'S LAST PURCHASE OF PARKLAND. AND SO, JUST AS A REMINDER, ON THE WESTERN SIDE, SO THIS IS THE WESTERN BOUNDARY. THERE IS A 50 FOOT BUILDING SETBACK. WITHIN THAT BUILDING SETBACK, THERE IS A 30 FOOT TREES TREE PRESERVATION ZONE. THE ZONING DOES SAY THAT THERE SHOULD BE NO IMPACT TO THE TREES WITHIN THE PRESERVATION ZONE, UNLESS THEY CONFLICT WITH THE INSTALLATION OF UTILITIES OR STORMWATER INFRASTRUCTURE. SO IT DOES ALLOW FOR UTILITIES WITHIN THAT TREE PRESERVATION ZONE TO ENSURE THAT THERE IS NO IMPACTS TO THE TREES OR THEIR TREE ROOTS. THE DEVELOPER'S ENGINEERING TEAM HAS REFINED THE SITE SO THAT ALL THE UTILITIES ARE WITHIN EASEMENTS LOCATED WITHIN THE FRONT YARDS ALONG THIS PORTION OF THE SUBDIVISION, TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS NO NEED FOR ADDITIONAL EASEMENTS IN THE REAR YARD TO ENSURE THAT THERE ARE NO IMPACT TO THE TREES. AND SO THE
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APPLICANT IS HERE TONIGHT AND STAFF IS HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS FROM STAFF ON THE ORDINANCE. AND WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. I BELIEVE WE DO HAVE A SPEAKER CARD FROM MISS DAVIES ON ORDINANCE. OH 48 2024. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS TAMARA DAVIES. I LIVE AT 8200 CENTRAL COLLEGE ROAD AND ALSO OWN 8238 CENTRAL COLLEGE ROAD. MY, I, I HAD A PRESENTATION, BUT I DON'T NEED TO PUT IT UP. MY ISSUES ARE THE SAME AS THEY'VE BEEN FOR A WHILE. IS ONE THE ZONING CALLS FOR THE COMMISSION TO CONSIDER AT A MINIMUM THE FOLLOWING. UNDER SECTION 1150 908 THAT THERE ARE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT, THAT THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS CONSISTENT IN ALL RESPECTS WITH THE PURPOSE, INTENT AND APPLICABLE STANDARDS OF THE ZONING CODE. AND UNDER G IT SAYS, BUILDING HEIGHTS OF ALL STRUCTURES WITH REGARD TO THEIR VISUAL IMPACT ON ADJACENT FACILITIES. NOW, I LIVE ADJACENT TO THIS, AND WHAT YOU DON'T SEE ON THERE IS THE MASTER GRADING PLAN. AND THOSE LOTS 102 THROUGH 108 THERE ARE BEING RAISED UP ABOUT SEVEN FEET FROM THE CURRENT GRADE LEVEL. MY CONCERN IS THAT VISUAL IMPACT ON MY PROPERTIES NEXT TO THIS SPECIFICALLY, 8238 CENTRAL COLLEGE ROAD, BECAUSE THAT LOT 102 IS GOING TO BE BASICALLY ALMOST AT ROOF HEIGHT OF THE HOME THAT'S ON THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY. IN ADDITION TO THAT, I'M ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT I WENT TO FRANKLIN COUNTY. NO ONE BROUGHT UP THAT FRANKLIN COUNTY ENGINEERS WERE SUPPOSED TO LOOK AT THE GRADING AND DRAINAGE PLAN ON THIS. I CALLED THEM MYSELF RIGHT AFTER THE PLANNING MEETING AND TALKED TO MATT RAPIST. HE'S ONE OF THE ENGINEERS. HE GOT BACK WITH ME AND AT THE TIME IN NOVEMBER, HE HADN'T RECEIVED DETAILED PLANS. BUT HE DID SUGGEST THAT UNDER THESE CONDITIONS, WITH THAT HEIGHT AND THE SLOPE THERE, THAT THERE IS SUPPOSED TO BE DRAINAGE CONSIDERATIONS AT THE BOTTOM OF THAT SLOPE, WHETHER IT BE LIKE A FRENCH DRAIN SYSTEM OR A FIELD TILE, IS WHAT HE SAID, OR A SWEAT. AND I DON'T THINK THAT IS IN THE PLAN CURRENTLY. BUT HE HADN'T GOTTEN BACK WITH ME SINCE. TO THAT HE RECEIVED ANY MORE DETAILED PLANNING ON THE DRAINAGE, BUT THAT I HAVE THIS MESSAGE ON MY PHONE AND THAT'S WHAT THEY WERE THINKING WAS NEEDED AT THAT PLACE. AGAIN, I FEEL LIKE THIS PROJECT, BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT THAT THEY'RE RAISING THESE LOTS THERE, IS NEGATIVELY IMPACTING THE VALUE OF MY PROPERTIES NEXT TO IT. AND THERE IS A 33, I MEAN, A 30 FOOT TREE PRESERVATION AREA THERE. BUT IF YOU LOOK AT WHICH YOU PROBABLY DON'T HAVE IN YOUR PACKET, THERE NEARLY EVERY TREE BEHIND LOT 102 IS ACTUALLY BEING TAKEN DOWN. SO THERE'S ALMOST GOING TO BE NO TREES LEFT IN THAT 30 FOOT TREE PRESERVATION AREA. IT JUST COMES DOWN TO, YOU KNOW, I GUESS WHERE THEY'RE AT. AND IF THEY THINK IT MIGHT IMPACT THE HOME WHERE IT'S BUILT. IN THE PAST, WE HAVE HAD SOME FLOODING ON CENTRAL COLLEGE ROAD. SO THE DRAINAGE IS AN ISSUE FOR US. THE DRAIN THAT RUNS ALONG THE FRONT OF 8238 CENTRAL COLLEGE ROAD, HEADING WEST, IS AT CAPACITY, AND WHEN IT RAINS, THOSE DRAINS ARE FULL.SO DRAINAGE IS CONCERNED FOR US IN THAT AREA. LET'S SEE. ANYWAY, THAT IS THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT. THE FACT THAT I DON'T THINK THAT. WHEN THIS PLAN WAS BROUGHT UP, THE FINAL, THE FINAL GRADING PLAN WAS NOT PART OF THE ORIGINAL MEETINGS. AND I KNOW THAT'S NOT PART OF THE PROCESS TO HAVE THAT FINAL GRADING PLAN AT LIKE THE BLACK LIQUID BOARD MEETINGS. BUT WHEN IT'S THIS DRASTIC OF A CHANGE TO A PIECE OF PROPERTY, I THINK IT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED EARLIER IN THE PROCESS, OR THEY SHOULD HAVE TO GO BACK TO STEP ONE AND GO BACK TO THE BLACK LIQUID CORD AGREEMENT, BECAUSE THIS IS IMPACTING US AND WE'RE NOT IN NEW ALBANY. SO THAT, YOU KNOW,
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I'M NOT SURE HOW YOU GUYS FEEL ABOUT THAT, BUT IF THIS WAS IN YOUR BACKYARD, I DON'T THINK YOU'D BE HAPPY WITH SOMEONE RAISING UP A PROPERTY SEVEN FEET ABOVE ITS CURRENT LEVEL AND PUTTING A HOUSE ON TOP OF IT. MISS DAVIS, HAVE YOU HAD A CHANCE TO MEET WITH PULTE OR THEIR REPRESENTATIVES TO TALK ABOUT THESE CONCERNS? THIS IS THAT TYPEKIT I APOLOGIZE, MY HUSBAND HAS MET WITH HIM. OKAY. AND I GUESS THERE'S NO CHANGE. I MEAN, TO THIS I MEAN, YEAH, SO IT'S STILL WHAT IT IS. AND THE WATER CONDITIONS YOU MENTIONED ALONG THE MAIN ROAD THERE. WHAT ABOUT ON YOUR PROPERTY LINE? WHAT'S THE CURRENT DRAINAGE CONDITIONS THERE? LIKE I SAID, I HAVE PICTURES OF A FEW YEARS AGO OF THAT WHOLE ROAD BEING FLOODED ACROSS THERE. SO WHEN YOU'RE ADDING A LOT MORE CONCRETE AND A LOT MORE STUFF, YOU KNOW, WATER BEING DIRECTED AND FLOWED, IT COULD, I DON'T KNOW THE NUMBERS. I JUST AM CONCERNED ABOUT IT. OKAY. THE OTHER THING IS THEY THEY GOT MORE OPEN SPACE SOMEHOW WITH THE PONDS. AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'D A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO THERE WAS A THE ENGINEERS ARE SOMEWHERE IN FRANKLIN COUNTY WAS TALKING ABOUT CHANGING UP DRAINAGE PONDS BECAUSE A NUMBER OF DROWNINGS THEY'VE HAD IN THEM. AND I'M CONCERNED THAT MAYBE THEY'RE MAKING THESE TOO STEEP WHEN THEY GAINED MORE OPEN SPACE, THERE WAS SOME PROPOSALS IN THE COUNTY ABOUT MAKING LEDGES SO THAT IF PEOPLE LIKE, SOMEHOW FALL IN THERE, NOT JUST IT'S JUST NOT A STEEP DROP OFF, BECAUSE IF THIS IS A 55 PLUS COMMUNITY, IF SOMEONE'S GOING AFTER THEIR DOG AND THESE ARE STEEP EMBANKMENTS THERE, YOU'RE NOT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A DIFFICULT TIME GETTING BACK OUT OF THAT POND. OKAY. CAN I ASK A QUICK QUESTION? JUST FOR MY OWN KNOWLEDGE, I HAVE THE GOOGLE MAP HERE. I'M TRYING TO GET AN IDEA HERE. SO THE POND THAT'S IN THE BACK OF YOUR PROPERTY. YEAH, RIGHT HERE. IS THIS THE END OF YOUR PROPERTY AND SHOWN AS ON THAT AS WELL. IF I JUST LOOK AT THIS TREE LINE HERE. OKAY. THERE'S THAT SQUARE THAT'S JUST TO THE WEST OF 102. YEAH. THAT'S THE FRONT PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT WE OWN. OKAY. AND THEN THE OTHER PIECE GOES BACK OFF OF THAT PICTURE. SO OKAY. SO THAT IS VERY HELPFUL. SO YOUR HOUSE IS THE FRONT IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING HERE. NOT YOUR HOUSE BUT THE 8238 I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S YOUR HOUSE BUT SO 102 WHAT I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IS WHERE 102 IS ON HERE. AND IT SOUNDS LIKE IT MAY BE COMING IN IN THIS SECTION. YEAH, IT'S COMING IN JUST A LITTLE BEHIND THAT, THAT HOME THERE KIND OF IN LINE IF YOU SEE THE REAR GARAGE THERE'S LIKE A YEAH. YEAH. IT WOULD BE KIND OF IN LINE WITH THAT WITH THE REAR GARAGE. OKAY. THAT'S HELPFUL. THANK YOU. SO THE GRADE CHANGE IS TO THE EAST OF THE TREE PRESERVATION ZONE. CORRECT. SO IT'S AS IT STANDS NOW THAT IT'S GOING TO BE THE LOTS ARE BEING RAISED SEVEN FEET AND THEN DROP STRAIGHT DOWN TO WHERE THE YEAH THEY HAVE IT YOU KNOW COMING DOWN. I WOULD HAVE TO SAY I OVER THE COURSE OF SEVEN EIGHT FEET IT'S GOING TO DROP SEVEN EIGHT FEET. SO SOMEWHERE IN THAT RANGE I THINK THAT THE PICTURE HE HAD.YEAH. YEAH. IT'S JUST THAT'S KIND OF A IDEALIZED DESCRIPTION OF IT. SO JUST SOME BACKGROUND ON THIS DIAGRAM. SO AHEAD OF THE FINAL PLAT, THE PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEWS THE GRADING FOR THE SUBDIVISION. AND SO THIS WAS SUBMITTED AS PART OF THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN REVIEW.
SO THERE IS A DROP IN GRADE. IT'S GENERALLY A 4 TO 1 SLOPE ALONG THE BACK OF THE HOMES TO THE ABOUT TO THE EDGE OF THE TREE PRESERVATION ZONE AREA. AS PART OF THE OVERALL SUBDIVISION REVIEW IS WITH THAT FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN SUBMITTAL, THE CITY ENGINEER REVIEWED ALONG ALONG WITH THE CITY LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT, SO THERE WILL BE ADDITIONAL TREES PLANTED WITH TALL GRASSES IN ORDER TO NATURALIZE THIS. THE GOAL WAS TO HIT THAT 4 TO 1 SLOPE TO MAKE SURE THAT VEGETATION WOULD ESTABLISH ON THERE THIS LANDSCAPE PLAN AND GRADING WAS REVIEWED AND APPROVED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION AS PART OF THAT FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN. SO THE ELEVATION CHANGE JUST GENERALLY IS I CAN'T READ IT EVEN SHOWS. BUT WHAT DOES SHOW THAT DROP TO BE IN THAT DIAGRAM, OR DOES IT EVEN ILLUSTRATE THAT? WELL, IF YOU COUNT THE LINES ON THE GRADING OVER ON THERE, EACH LINE SHOULD EQUATE TO A FOOT IN ELEVATION CHANGE. YEAH, THIS IS A TYPICAL SECTION. I THINK MISS DAVIS IS RIGHT. IT PROBABLY IS BETWEEN 5 TO 7FT THROUGHOUT THE
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WESTERN SIDE OF THE OF THE SUBDIVISION. AND WHAT'S THE PLAN FROM AN ENGINEERING PERSPECTIVE? WHAT'S THE PLAN FOR THAT WATER THAT DOES EVENTUALLY GO DOWN INTO THE PRESERVATION? WHAT IS THE PLAN FOR THAT WATER TO MOVE, I GUESS SOUTH OUT OF THERE. WOULD IT BE SOUTH? YEAH. SO THE DEVELOPER HAS PREPARED AND SUBMITTED A OVERALL STORMWATER MASTER PLAN FOR THE ENTIRE SUBDIVISION. THE CITY ENGINEERING TEAM HAS REVIEWED AND APPROVED ITS FINDINGS. WHAT THE DEVELOPER IS DOING IS ACTUALLY SLOPING DOWN SO THAT FROM THIS POINT, OVER ALL OF THIS STORMWATER IS GOING TOWARDS THE STREET TO BE COLLECTED INTO THE STORMWATER SYSTEM.EVERYTHING FROM THIS POINT BACK IS RECEIVING, ACCORDING TO THE CALCULATIONS, THE SAME AMOUNT OF STORMWATER. SO THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL STORMWATER BEING GENERATED OR FLOWING TO THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY OWNER. AS PART OF THIS IMPROVEMENT. AND I WENT OVER THIS IN A PREVIOUS THING, AND LIKE YOU SAID, THE GRADING PLAN WAS PART OF THE FINAL PLAT, SO WE MADE IT THROUGH, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY MEETINGS HERE BEFORE WE SAW THE GRADING PLAN, WHICH AGAIN, I THINK THAT'S NOT THE TIME WHEN IT'S THIS DRASTICALLY CHANGE AND ALL THIS DIRT THAT THEY'RE BRINGING IN IS AITTLE LTBI OF A IS AONCERN CTHEY S. D IT'AI SING TGOO B APPROEDVE BY WANTDY.MEUT B YOUNOW, I KON'T D IRT D COMININ.G THAT WAS LIKELD O ASPHALT THAT'GOINGS T LOCAWERU AREN A O WELL IN THAT ON. ITIANT TO WAKE MURE S BROU CLE DIRTANHAT'S TEING B THATIN. A OFND COURS ALLE, ALSOBEINGT BROHTUGN I IS OING GO DO A T GDOO NUMBE R THE STOEETSTRITH T WSE DUMHOP UCKSTR DRIVI ON ITNG, BAUSEEC ISYER ONE OTHOSEF UMP D TCKSRU BETWBLYBA WOR SOMEWTHREHE N 50 AEE 200ND CARS I MYFFICTR WISE, SOHAT THOSE A TRE IT'SRNS.ON YOUNOW, K MNLYAI THE DECREE IN VASUEAL WHERNSCO ABOUT DRAAGEIN AND THAT DE T IS CIRINGOMROM. F SO'M IOING G TO CHNELANY M INNER NEILIRBY K ANDECOMME RND THAT YOU GET YROU WELL TESTED NOW. SO YOUAVE H DUMENTAOCONTI OF WH ATIT WASEFORE BONSTRU CIONCT BEN ANDCASE THISNG DOO SID GAYS.EW Y CAN POUDUCERO TTHA BAUSEEC IT SHOULD BE THE SAME WHEN THIS PROJECT IS DONE AS IT IS TODAY. YEAH. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ANY COMMENTS FROM THE APPLICANT? ALL RIGHT. ANY ADDITIONAL PUBLIC COMMENT ON ORDINANCE OH 48? ONLY ONLY ONE, BASED ON THE RECOMMENDATION THAT PLANNING COMMISSION GAVE ON THE CITY GETTING AN APPRAISAL FOR THAT IN LIEU OF. HAVE WE MOVED FORWARD ON THAT? IS THAT SOMETHING WE'RE PLANNING ON DOING TO SEE HOW THAT COMPARES TO THE 5000 NUMBER? SO WE HAVEN'T DONE THE CITY ANY ADDITIONAL APPRAISALS SINCE THIS APPLICATION. WE WERE BASING THIS ON THE APPRAISAL WE RECEIVED, AND I GUESS THE PURCHASE PRICE FOR THE PROPERTY WHERE THE WHERE THE FIELD HOUSE IS LOCATED AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF CENTRAL COLLEGE AND BILHEIMER ROAD. THERE. I GUESS THE CITY DID A AN APPRAISAL AND SO DID THE PROPERTY OWNER, THE PURCHASE PRICE, AND I GUESS THE APPRAISAL FOR THE PURCHASE OF THAT PROPERTY, I THINK, AVERAGED ABOUT A LITTLE UNDER $60,000 AN ACRE. SO IT'S ABOUT CONSISTENT WITH THAT PAST APPRAISAL. SO WE'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THE NUMBER. OKAY. AND IF IT WAS A LARGER PARCEL, IT MAKES SENSE TO PROBABLY HAVE A MORE UP TO DATE COMPETITIVE BID. IT'S BACKED UP. I JUST WANTED TO FOLLOW UP MAKE SURE WE'RE. ALL RIGHT. ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL. AND WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE A MOTION ON ORDINANCE OH 48 2024? I MOVE FOR THE ADOPTION OF ORDINANCE 48 2024. SECOND.
COUNCIL MEMBER CASS. YES. MAYOR. SPALDING. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. BURRIS. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER.
SHAW. YES. I FOUR. YES. VOTES TO ADOPT ORDINANCE 48 2024. ORDINANCE OH 49 2024. AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY BY AMENDING THE ZONING MAP TO REZONE 30.04 PLUS OR MINUS ACRES OF LAND LOCATED NORTH AND WEST OF LAMBTON PARK ROAD AND SOUTH OF BRANDON ROAD, FOR AN AREA TO BE KNOWN AS THE EAST NINE ZONING TAX. FROM ITS CURRENT ZONING OF CPWD COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT TO IPOD INFILL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT AS REQUESTED BY THE NEW ALBANY COMPANY, LLC. CARE OF AARON
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UNDERHILL, ESQUIRE. MR. MAYOR, THANK YOU. SO THIS SUBDIVISION IS OUTLINED IN RED SHOWN ON THE MAP. SO WE HAVE BRANDON ROAD UP HERE AND LAMBTON PARK FOLLOWING THE SECTION DOWN HERE. SO THIS REZONING DIVIDES THIS EXISTING PLATTED SUBDIVISION INTO THREE AREAS. AND IT GOES FROM A 36 LOT SUBDIVISION TO A 40 LOT SUBDIVISION. SO IT'S ADDING A NET OF FOUR PARCELS TO BE DEVELOPED. SO SUBAREA ONE CONSISTS OF A TYPICAL ESTATE LOTS WITH TRADITIONAL SETBACKS THAT ARE SEEN THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY. CLUB SUBAREA TWO AND YELLOW ALLOWS FOR CLUSTER HOUSING WITH ZERO LOT LINE DEVELOPMENTS. AND SUBAREA THREE ALLOWS FOR A HOUSE TO BE DESIGNED AS A GATEWAY FEATURE, WITH SETBACKS THAT ARE SUBJECT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S REVIEW AND APPROVAL AS PART OF A FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN. SO OVERALL, THE AGAIN, THE PREVIOUSLY PLATTED SUBDIVISION WAS 36 LOTS. THIS IS GOING UP TO 40 LOTS FOR A DENSITY OF 1.33 ACRES. THE ZONING TEXT DOES COMMIT TO THE PROPERTY OWNER TO WITHDRAW UNITS FROM THEIR HOUSING BANK, AND THEN ALSO FOR OPEN SPACE AND PARK LANDS. 8.2 ACRES IS REQUIRED. IT IS SHORT BY SOME ACRES, 5.7 ACRES IS BEING PROVIDED. BUT AGAIN ALSO THE ZONING TEXT ALSO REQUIRES THE APPLICANT TO WITHDRAW PARKLAND CREDITS FROM THEIR PARKLAND BANK. AND SO THREE ROADS WILL THAT ARE BUILT TODAY THAT ARE PLATTED AND WILL REMAIN SO. THE MAIN ROAD GOING THROUGH THIS CUL DE SAC ROAD AND JUST THIS STREET AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER WILL BE RECONSTRUCTED AND REDESIGNED TO ACCOUNT FOR THOSE ADDITIONAL HOUSING UNITS. SO OVERALL, THIS IS A SITE CONNECTIVITY PLAN TO SHOW THE EXISTING AND FUTURE CONNECTIVITY BETWEEN THIS SUBDIVISION AND ITS SURROUNDING ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOODS, AND STAFF IS HAPPY TO, I SHOULD SAY, AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEWED AND RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THIS BY A 5 TO 0 VOTE, AND STAFF IS HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. I KNOW TOM RUBY, THE APPLICANT TONIGHT ALSO HAS AN ADDITIONAL PRESENTATION WITH MORE INFORMATION FOR CITY COUNCIL. MR. RUBY, WHICH WOULD YOU LIKE? SET ONE OR SET TWO FOR THAT ONE. OKAY. SO LAST TIME I WAS BEFORE YOU, THERE WERE SERIOUS QUESTIONS THAT FOLKS HAD ABOUT THE GATEHOUSE AND THE CLUSTER AREA AND A COUPLE OF OTHER DETAILS. SO I PULLED TOGETHER A DECK JUST TO KIND OF REFRESH YOUR MEMORY ABOUT THE SPECIFIC CHANGES THAT ARE OCCURRING WITH THIS, OTHER THAN WHAT STEVEN MENTIONED, THE NUMBER OF LOTS.THERE WERE A TOTAL OF FIVE AREAS WHERE THERE WILL BE CONSTRUCTION MODIFICATIONS. THE SOUTHERN MAIN. GATEWAY, THE CLUSTER AREA, A BOARDWALK EXTENDING INTO THE RELOCATED POND ON THE SOUTHERN END, A REDESIGNED OVERLOOK TO THE NORTH, AND A REDESIGN OF THE ENTRY TO THE NORTH. THE EXISTING CONDITION FOR THE SOUTHERN ENTRY. TO REHASH WHAT WE'VE GONE THROUGH IN THE PAST COUPLE OF ITERATIONS, THERE WERE QUESTIONS ABOUT ADDING A HOME, TURNING A HOME LOT LOCATION BEHIND THIS EXISTING WALL. WHEN WE WENT BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION, THEY ASKED THAT A SEPARATE SUB AREA BE CREATED THAT REQUIRES A SEPARATE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN. WHEN THAT HOME IS DESIGNED TO RETURN TO THEM FOR REVIEW AND APPROVAL. WHAT I'VE DONE IN THIS KIND OF AN AERIAL VIEW OF BOTH THE EXISTING GATE AND I THINK YOU PROBABLY HAVE SEEN THIS BEFORE, JUST A VERY CONCEPTUAL DIAGRAM THAT SHOWS UP A HOUSE FOOTPRINT. SO SINCE LAST WE MET, I HAD BEEN WORKING WITH OUR DESIGN TEAM TO GET A BETTER SENSE OF WHAT I DESCRIBED A HOME THAT COULD BE ABOUT 1800 SQUARE FEET, AND THIS IS THE START OF LOOKING AT SOMETHING LIKE THAT, SO THAT YOU'LL NOTICE THE FIRST FLOOR IS ABOUT 1400 SQUARE FEET. THERE WOULD BE A SECOND FLOOR OF JUST SHY OF 400FT■!S. IT'S A ONE BEDROOM. STRUCTURE, MAY HAVE GARAGE, MAY NOT HAVE GARAGE. THIS PLAN SHOWING A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL. AGAIN I TALKED ABOUT PERHAPS THE ABILITY OF USING THIS AS A MARKETING SPACE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THERE WOULD BE A SEPARATE PROCESS REVIEWED AND APPROVED BY THE
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PLANNING COMMISSION, IF THAT WERE TO BE DETERMINED. IF THIS WOULD EVER BE A MODEL HOME SALES OFFICE, THAT WE WOULD GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS WITH THEM. SO THE EXHIBIT ON THE RIGHT SHOWS WHAT A LAYOUT COULD LOOK LIKE, IF THAT IN FACT WERE THE CASE. SAME LAYOUT IF IT WERE SIMPLY A SINGLE FAMILY HOME THAT WAS BUILT AHEAD OF TIME. AGAIN INTENDED TO ILLUSTRATE THE COMMITMENT FOR ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS AND DETAILING AND IMPLEMENTATION. LIVING THIS AGAIN 1400 SQUARE FEET ON THE FIRST FLOOR LIVING AREA, DINING KITCHEN, PERHAPS A PATIO IN THE BACK, BATHROOM, BATH, ALL FIRST FLOOR. SECOND FLOOR WOULD BE A STUDIO, POTENTIALLY ADDITIONAL BEDROOM. AGAIN, THAT'S ABOUT 1800 SQUARE FEET. PERHAPS IT'S A LIVING AREA, PERHAPS IT'S A SHOWROOM. ALL, YOU KNOW, CONCEPTUAL AND TO BE DETERMINED. I'VE ALSO PULLED SOME REFERENCE IMAGES OF WHAT WE ARE IMAGINING THIS BUILDING TO LOOK LIKE. PRETTY ROMANTIC. THE IDEA OF REALLY A GATE HOUSE ENTRYWAY THAT, IN FACT, IS OCCUPIABLE TWO STORIES IN HEIGHT. ALL OF THESE IMAGES, NOT ALL OF THEM. MOST OF THEM SHOW STONE STRUCTURES THERE. WE DON'T KNOW WHETHER IT WILL BE STONE OR BRICK, BUT THE IDEA, AGAIN, OF IMPLEMENTING ALL OF THE ARCHITECTURAL DETAILS THAT WE INTEND ON IMPLEMENTING HERE WOULD BE PART OF THAT, PART OF THAT VOCABULARY. SO JUST BEFORE YOU MOVE ON TO THAT, ARE THE ARCHITECTURAL DETAILS IN THIS SECTION GOING TO BE SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT THAN THE REST OF THE ARCHITECTURE ON EAS? I KNOW THE ARCHITECTURAL DETAILS IMPLEMENTED FOR THIS HOME WILL BE A REPRESENTATION OF WHAT THE EXPECTATION IS FOR ALL OF THE HOMES IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH AND THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING, IS THAT DO YOU IS THIS NEEDED BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO VARY SO SIGNIFICANTLY FROM WHAT IS CURRENTLY ON THE OUTSIDE OF EAST NINE? NO, IT'S NOT NEEDED. IT'S NOT NEEDED BECAUSE THE STANDARDS WILL BE SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE'VE DONE ELSEWHERE. IT IS IT WILL. THE IDEA IS THAT THIS WILL BE DONE TO ILLUSTRATE OUR COMMITMENT TO THE LEVEL OF EXECUTION, WHICH IS NOT COMMONLY FOUND THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY CLUB COMMUNITIES. THERE ARE PROBABLY A COUPLE OF NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE WHERE WE HAVE PULLED THAT OFF. I THINK LAST TIME I WAS HERE, I TALKED ABOUT EBRINGTON, OXFORD, HIGHGROVE, ALL BEAUTIFUL NEIGHBORHOODS, ALL NEIGHBORHOODS THAT HAVE AND THROUGH THROUGH MY EYES, THINGS THAT WE COULD HAVE DONE BETTER, LESSONS LEARNED THAT WILL BE NOT LOST ON THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. OKAY. THIS IS GOING FORWARD FOR SOME REASON.OH, I MAY NEED TO GO TO THE SECOND DECK. I BET THAT'S WHAT THE ISSUE IS. WOULD YOU MIND PULLING THAT ONE UP FOR ME, JENNIFER? SURE. SO THE SECOND DECK IS INTENDED TO ILLUSTRATE.
I'VE TALKED A BIT ABOUT THE EXAMPLES OF THAT LITTLE TEN LOT NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF THE OF THE PROJECT. EDGE OF WOODS IS ONE EXAMPLE, WITH THE BRICK STREETS AND THE GRANITE CURBS AND THE HOMES WITHIN CLOSE PROXIMITY. LOTS OF ANALYSIS GOING ON NOW OF DIMENSIONS. YOU'LL NOTICE ON THIS EXHIBIT A 76FT IS HIGHLIGHTED AS THE DIMENSION BETWEEN ONE EDGE OF WOODS. AND I THINK THIS IS 15 EDGE OF WOODS FROM FACE TO FACE. THERE'S A VERY SMALL POCKET PARK HERE. THERE'S A LEISURE PATH HERE. MANY OF YOU HAVE WALKED. THERE'S A LITTLE VERY BEAUTIFUL WALPOLE FENCE AND KIND OF A PRIVATE GARDEN SPACE. THAT 76 FOOT DIMENSION IS THEN MIMICKED UP HERE AS WE START LOOKING AT THE DETAILS OF THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. SO, YOU KNOW, THE HEIGHT OF THE HOME, THE DIMENSION BETWEEN THE FACES OF EACH OF THE HOMES ARE THE THINGS THAT WE'RE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. WORTH NOTING IN THE ZONING TEXT. I THINK THIS WAS MENTIONED SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINE. STREET TREES ARE NOT REQUIRED WITHIN TREE LAWNS IN THIS AREA. AGAIN, MUCH LIKE EDGE OF WOODS, YOU'LL NOTICE A 23 FOOT WIDE TWO WAY STREET. THESE ARE ALL PUBLIC STREETS, UNLIKE EDGE OF WOODS, WHICH IS A PUBLIC PRIVATE STREET, THESE WILL ALL BE PUBLIC STREETS. THERE'S A FIVE FOOT SIDEWALK, BUT THE STREET TREES ACTUALLY HAPPEN BEHIND THOSE DETAILED WROUGHT IRON GATES AND BRICK PIERS, WHICH WE MAY WANT
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TO DO IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, AGAIN SUBJECT TO A SEPARATE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT'S REVIEWED BY THE BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION. SESSIONS VILLAGE IS THE OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WE CONTINUE TO REFERENCE, BUILT IN THE 1920S OFF OF BROAD STREET, THIS IS THE ENTRANCE TO SESSIONS VILLAGE LOOKING TO THE NORTH. A LITTLE HARD TO SEE IN THIS EXAMPLE, BUT THIS IS A GATE HOUSE, A SINGLE FAMILY HOME WITH A. THERE'S ACTUALLY A COVERED OCCUPIABLE SPACE ABOVE. WHEN YOU DRIVE THROUGH THE GATES AT SESSIONS VILLAGE. IRONICALLY, THIS ALSO HAS 18 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, MUCH LIKE EDGE OF WOODS. THIS IMAGE PROBABLY SHOWS IT A LITTLE BIT BETTER. THIS IS THAT ENTRANCE GATE HOUSE WITH THE COVERED OCCUPIABLE SPACE ABOVE IT, AND THE BLUFF GATES BELOW.OUR SUGGESTION. WE'RE NOT SUGGESTING THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT. WE KNOW WE WON'T BE DOING BLUFF GATES. WE KNOW WE WON'T BE PROPOSING OCCUPIABLE SPACE ABOVE THE ROAD.
BUT THE IDEA OF A CEREMONIAL ENTRANCE INTO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD IS SOMETHING THAT WILL BE DIVING DEEP INTO AS AS THIS DESIGN PROGRESSES. AGAIN, MORE IMAGES OF THE ENTRY KIND OF EXPERIENCE THAT THAT WE'RE ANTICIPATING OR EMULATING FOR, FOR THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. AND I THINK THAT'S IT FOR MY PRESENTATION. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. SO YOU'RE JUST KIND OF PUTTING THIS AT THE JAMES RIVER ENTRANCE AND NOT NECESSARILY AT THE BOUNDARY AT THE HEAD OF POND, SOUTHERN ENTRANCES WITH WHERE THE OCCUPIABLE HOME WILL BE. THE NORTHERN ENTRANCE, CLOSE TO GRANT, IS MORE AN ISSUE OF SEPARATING OUT THE GOLF CART CROSSING FOR GOLF FROM WHERE THE BRICK WALLS AND WALPOLE FENCE WILL BE. THERE WOULD NOT BE A SEPARATE OCCUPIABLE HOME ON THE GOLF COURSE SIDE THAT, IN ALL LIKELIHOOD WILL BE SOME TYPE OF PEER GATEWAY THING THAT WILL BE PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN, BUT NOT AN OCCUPIED ONE. OKAY.
THANK YOU FOR PRESENTING THAT DETAIL FOR SURE. I HOPE THAT HELPS CLARIFY WHAT WE'RE AIMING FOR. MR. KISSED, I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT I HAVE REPEATED MORE THAN ONCE YOUR COMMENTS FROM OUR LAST MEETING ABOUT A REQUEST FOR US TO START PAYING ATTENTION TO THE VILLAGE CENTER ONCE THIS PROJECT IS COMPLETED, AND THOSE COMMENTS ARE BEING WELL RECEIVED. MUCH APPRECIATED. ALL RIGHT. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS ON ORDINANCE 49? ANYONE ELSE FROM THE PUBLIC LIKE TO SPEAK REGARDING ORDINANCE OH 49? HEARING NO PUBLIC COMMENT. I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND MOVE FOR THE ADOPTION OF ORDINANCE. OH 49 2024 SECOND. MAYOR SPALDING. YES.
COUNCILMEMBER. SCHULTZ. YES. COUNCILMEMBER. KISS. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. BRUCE. YES. AND
[10. INTRODUCTION AND FIRST READING OF ORDINANCES]
FOUR YES VOTES TO ADOPT ORDINANCE OH 49 2024 INTRODUCTION AND FIRST READING OF ORDINANCE. ORDINANCE OH ONE 2025 AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND CHAPTER 1169.16 OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING CODE OF THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY. CODIFIED ORDINANCES AS REQUESTED BY THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY. WHO GETS THIS ONE? OH, THIS IS ME AGAIN. ALL RIGHT, SO RECENTLY THE CITY HAS RECEIVED A LOT OF VARIANCE REQUESTS FOR COMMERCIAL AND WAREHOUSE FACILITIES TO THE CITY'S SIGN CODE. SO THIS CODE UPDATE IS JUST TO A SMALL PORTION OF THE CITY SIGN CODE THAT RELATES TO WALL SIGNS FOR COMMERCIAL AND WAREHOUSING BUILDINGS. SO IT'S KIND OF CRAZY TO THINK THAT THE SIGN CODE WAS LAST UPDATED ALMOST 15 YEARS AGO IN 2010, AND ACTUALLY PREDATES WHEN ALL OF THE LARGE COMMERCIAL BUILDING EXPANSION AND CONSTRUCTION STARTED IN THE LICKING COUNTY OF THE BUSINESS PARK. THAT KIND OF STARTED LIKE 2011, 2012 ISH, REALLY. AND SO WHAT WE'VE SEEN IS THAT MANY NEWER COMMERCIAL WAREHOUSE BUILDINGS ARE SEVERAL HUNDRED THOUSAND SQUARE FEET.AND WHAT THE CODE CURRENTLY ALLOWS IS A MAXIMUM OF 75FT■!S D JUST ONE SIGN PER BUILDING FRONTAGE. SO EVEN IF YOU HAVE 1,000,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING, THAT'S SOME OF THEM ARE LITERALLY ALMOST 1500 TO 2000FT LONG. YOU STILL JUST GET A MAXIMUM OF 75FT■!S. AND THIS IS THE SAME FOR ALL OTHER LIKE OFFICE AND COMMERCIAL AND WAREHOUSING BUILDINGS. SO EVEN IF IT'S LIKE SOMETHING IN THE INDUSTRIAL PARK THAT'S 2000FT■!, THIS SAME CODE APPLIES. SO IT'S A ONE SIZE FITS ALL. AND WE FEEL THAT THE SIGN CODE AT THE TIME JUST DIDN'T CONTEMPLATE THESE
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LARGE WAREHOUSES AND DATA CENTERS THAT WE'RE SEEING TODAY. SO BASED ON PAST VARIANCE REQUESTS THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED BY THE BZA, THE BCA ACTUALLY DIRECTED STAFF AND REQUESTED THAT WE START DOING RESEARCH FOR OUR CODE UPDATES. AND SO WE WORKSHOPPED THIS WITH THE BCA, I THINK, A FEW TIMES, AND WE HAVE SINCE TAKEN IT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND RECEIVED THEIR REVIEW AND POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION TO GO TO COUNCIL TONIGHT. SO BASED ON PREVIOUS REQUESTS, STAFF PROPOSES THAT THE SIGN CODE BE UPDATED IN RED. SO INSTEAD OF ONE WALL SIGN PER BUILDING FRONTAGE, IT ALLOWS ONE PER BUILDING ENTRANCE. SO WE SEE A LOT OF MULTI TENANTS, MAYBE NOT A LOT, BUT WE SEE MORE OF THESE THAN WE'VE EVER HAVE FROM MULTI TENANTS. SO EVEN IF YOU HAVE MULTIPLE TENANTS YOU'RE ONLY ALLOWED ONE SIGN FOR THE WHOLE THING. SO THERE'S NO SHARING. THE OTHER THING TOO IS INCREASING THE AMOUNT OF SIZE FROM 75FT■!S TO 200. SO AGAIN TS IS NOT GOING TO BE AND WE'VE HAD THIS DISCUSSION WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND BCA.THIS WOULDN'T NECESSARILY BE A FIX ALL. BUT WE THINK THIS BRINGS IT MUCH CLOSER TO WHAT OUR COMMERCIAL TENANTS ARE ASKING FOR. SO WE DO THINK THAT THIS WILL SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCE THE NUMBER OF VARIANCES, BUT MAY NOT GET RID OF ALL OF THEM. THIS WILL BE A VAST IMPROVEMENT. AND THEN THERE'S JUST ONE OTHER SMALL ERROR THAT WE FOUND. SO INSTEAD OF SAYING A IT SAYS LINEAR SQUARE FEET. SO WE'RE JUST CHANGING THAT TO LINEAR FEET TO MAKE SURE THAT THE MEASUREMENTS VERBIAGE IS CORRECT. AND SO AGAIN IT'S JUST TO ALLOW FOR MORE SIGNS ONE PER BUILDING ENTRANCE. AND THEN TO ALLOW EACH OF THOSE TO BE 200FT■!S. AND STAFF IS HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS ON THE ORDINANCE. NO I'LL JUST JUST RECAP A COUPLE MEETINGS AGO AND I HAD SHARED THE MEETING THAT THE BCA HAD. AND REALLY THIS 200FT■!S WILL CAPTURE A LOT OF THE VARIANCES THAT THEY'VE BEEN THEY'VE BEEN GETTING ON THESE LARGE WAREHOUSE FACILITIES. WE'VE ONLY HAD ONE CASE WHERE THEY'RE REQUESTING 300, I THINK IS WAS WHAT IT WAS.
AND A SIMPLE REARRANGING SOME OF THE WORDAGE ON IT WOULD GET IT BACK DOWN TO THAT AROUND THAT 200. SO I DEFINITELY WANT TO APPLAUD STAFF FOR REALLY PUTTING THIS TOGETHER, BECAUSE IT DEFINITELY WILL HELP, YOU KNOW, REDUCE SOME OF THE VARIANCES THAT THEY SEE. AND IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE BECAUSE THESE BUILDINGS ARE HUGE OUT THERE. AND A 75 SQUARE FOOT SIGN IS SO SMALL. AND THE MULTIPLE TENANT THING IS EXACTLY WHAT WAS HAPPENING WHERE WE'D HAVE MULTIPLE TENANTS IN THESE BUILDINGS, YOU CAN ONLY HAVE ONE SIGN. SO YEAH. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. THEN WE'LL GO AHEAD AND SET THAT FOR PUBLIC HEARING AND SECOND READING AT OUR MEETING ON JANUARY 21ST. ORDINANCE OH TWO 2025 AN ORDINANCE TO DETERMINE THE ANNUAL COMPENSATION AND BENEFITS OF THE MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS, AND ADDITIONAL SALARY FOR THE MAYOR, PRESIDENT, PRO TEM, AND OR DESIGNATED COUNCIL MEMBER PRESIDING OVER MAYOR'S COURT. WHO GETS THIS ONE? I USUALLY START THIS ONE. ALL RIGHT. THIS IS OUR ANNUAL ORDINANCE TO SET COUNSEL'S COMPENSATION. AND AS STATED IN SECTION 4.04 OF THE CITY'S CHARTER, THIS AUTHORIZES COUNCIL BY ORDINANCE TO ANNUALLY DETERMINE YOUR COMPENSATION SALARIES FOR THE MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS, AND THE PRESIDENT PRO TEM OR COUNCIL DESIGNEE SERVING IN MAYOR'S COURT WERE LAST ADOPTED LAST YEAR AS ORDINANCE 003. THIS ORDINANCE WOULD INCREASE COUNCIL SALARY BY THE 3.5%, WHICH IS THE SAME PERCENTAGE AS WAS GRANTED TO CITY STAFF FOR THIS YEAR. THE ORDINANCE ALSO MAKES HEALTH INSURANCE AVAILABLE TO COUNCIL MEMBERS, AS DESCRIBED IN SECTION 155 .19 A OF THE CITY'S CODIFIED ORDINANCES. THE ADJUSTMENTS TO SALARY. THE MATH WAS IN DETAIL IN YOUR LEGISLATIVE REPORT. IF YOU WANT TO KNOW HOW THAT WOULD IMPACT BIWEEKLY PAYCHECKS. AND ALSO BECAUSE I RECEIVED A QUESTION, ACTUALLY FROM FORMER MAYOR FERGUSON. NO, WE ARE NOT PAYING ANYONE RIGHT NOW FOR THE MAYOR'S COURT WORKING OF THAT SINCE WE ARE PARTNERED WITH GAHANNA. BUT THAT'S A CONTRACT THAT AT SOME POINT COULD BE DISSOLVED. SO I LEAVE THE LANGUAGE IN THERE, EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT BEING APPLIED. SHE LOOKING TO COME BACK AND BE A MAGISTRATE. SHE'S STILL WATCHES OUR MEETINGS. HI. FORMER MAYOR, MAYOR FERGUSON, I HAVE AT LEAST THREE. ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS ON THE ORDINANCE? AND WE'LL ALSO
[11. RESOLUTIONS AND PUBLIC HEARING]
SET THAT FOR SECOND READING AND PUBLIC HEARING AT OUR MEETING ON JANUARY 21ST. RESOLUTIONS AND PUBLIC HEARING RESOLUTION OH ONE 2025. A RESOLUTION APPROVING AND AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION OF A FIRST AMENDED AND RESTATED COMMUNITY REINVESTMENT AREA AGREEMENT WITH COY. NEW ALBANY, 525, LLC. SIR. THANK YOU. MAYOR. THIS RESOLUTION AUTHORIZES THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE AN[01:45:07]
AMENDED AND RESTATED COMMUNITY REINVESTMENT AREA AGREEMENT WITH COY. NEW ALBANY 525, LLC. THE PROJECT IS LOCATED ON 45 AND A 45 ACRE SITE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF INNOVATION CAMPUS WAY AND WEST OF MAIN STREET. IN AUGUST OF 2023, THE OWNER COMPLETED THE CONSTRUCTION OF A 525 000 SQUARE FOOT SPECULATIVE FACILITY. THE ORIGINAL CRA AGREEMENT CONTEMPLATED THAT THE FACILITY WOULD BE BUILT FOR OFFICE AND INDUSTRIAL USES. THE PROPERTY OWNER HAS REQUESTED A MODIFICATION OF THE AGREEMENT TO INCLUDE DATA CENTER USES IN THE FACILITY. THE PROPOSED AGREEMENT NOW INCLUDES THE CITY'S REVENUE BENCHMARK FORMULA FOR DATA CENTERS. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THIS RESOLUTION MAY BE ADOPTED THIS EVENING. PHIL RICCI IS HERE, VICE PRESIDENT OF DEVELOPMENT FOR VANTRUST. IF WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? PHIL, I'M NOT SURE IF YOU WERE A BOY SCOUT, BUT IF YOU WERE, YOU GOT A MERIT BADGE FOR STICKING OUT THE WHOLE CITY COUNCIL MEETING. YEAH. I FEEL LIKE WE GOT TO ASK SOME QUESTIONS NOW. LET'S MAKE IT WORTH IT. ALL RIGHT. BUT WE'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. WOULD ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC LIKE TO SPEAK REGARDING RESOLUTION O ONE 2025 HEARING? NO PUBLIC COMMENT.WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I WOULD MOVE FOR THE ADOPTION OF RESOLUTION RO1 2025 SECOND. MAYOR SPALDING. YES. COUNCILMEMBER. KITE. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. BRUCE. YES.
COUNCIL MEMBER. SHAW. YES. YES. VOTES TO ADOPT RESOLUTION RO1 2025. ALL RIGHT. HAPPY HUNTING.
THANK YOU. RESOLUTION RO2 2025 A RESOLUTION TO CLARIFY CERTAIN SECTIONS OF THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY'S PERSONNEL POLICIES TO DEFINE EARNABLE AND NONRENEWABLE SALARY, AS REQUESTED BY THE OHIO PUBLIC EMPLOYMENT RETIREMENT SYSTEM, STARTS. THANK YOU. MAYOR. THIS RESOLUTION IS HOUSEKEEPING IN NATURE AND IS REQUIRED ANNUALLY BY THE OHIO PUBLIC EMPLOYERS RETIREMENT SYSTEM TO CONFIRM THE EXISTENCE OF A SICK LEAVE AND OR VACATION LEAVE PAYOUT CONVERSION PLAN, AND TO CLARIFY WHETHER IT'S PENSIONABLE OR NOT. CHAPTER 155 09D AND ONE 5511 A OF THE NEW ALBANY CODIFIED ORDINANCES. THE PERSONNEL POLICIES PERMIT THE CONVERSION OF A LIMITED AMOUNT OF SICK LEAVE ANNUALLY BASED ON THE EMPLOYEE'S USE OF THE LEAVE AND REQUIRED MINIMUM BALANCES, AND THEN ALSO THE CODE PERMITS AN ANNUAL PAYOUT OF UP TO 80 VACATION HOURS, AS LONG AS THE MINIMUM BALANCE OF 480 HOURS IS MAINTAINED. THIS RESOLUTION WILL BE SUBMITTED TO OPERS FOR REVIEW, AND IT WILL SERVE AS ITS PURPOSE THAT'S REQUIRED FROM THEM. ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS ON THE RESOLUTION? OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC LIKE TO SPEAK REGARDING RESOLUTION RO TWO 2025 HEARING NO PUBLIC COMMENT. WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE A MOTION ON THE RESOLUTION MOVE ADOPTION OF R02 2025 SECOND COUNCIL MEMBER SHAW. YES.
COUNCIL MEMBER. KIS. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. BRUCE. YES. MAYOR. SPALDING. YES. RESOLUTION
[13. REPORTS OF REPRESENTATIVES]
R02 2025. ALL RIGHT. ANY COUNCIL SUBCOMMITTEE REPORTS. REPORTS OF REPRESENTATIVES. JOE, ANY UPDATE FROM AUBURN? NO MEETING. TROY PARKS. NO MEETING PLANNED LOCAL SCHOOLS. OH, WAIT. NO, THERE IS NO MEETING. BUT I JUST WANT TO THROW THIS OUT HERE BECAUSE IT'S JOINT PARK RELATED. THERE ARE REQUESTS THAT HAVE COME IN FOR OTHER ORGANIZATIONS TO RUN TOURNAMENTS ON OUR PICKLEBALL COURTS, WHICH WOULD SHUT DOWN THE COURTS FOR A PERIOD OF TIME FOR THOSE TOURNAMENTS, AND THEN ALSO RENTAL AGREEMENTS, BOTH OF WHICH WE DECIDED LAST YEAR NOT TO PURSUE BASED ON THE FACT THAT WE WERE STARTING OUR FIRST TOURNAMENT AND WE REALLY WEREN'T SURE. WE LOOKED INTO RENTAL IDEAS, BUT THEY REALLY DIDN'T KICK OFF. NO ONE REALLY USED THEM. BUT WHAT ABOUT 2025? IS THERE A CONSENSUS ON COUNCIL? MAYBE DON'T HAVE TO GIVE AN ANSWER RIGHT NOW, BUT THINK ABOUT WHAT DIRECTION YOU WANT TO GO. AS OUR PICKLEBALL COURTS HAVE BECOME MORE POPULAR, MORE ORGANIZATIONS WOULD LIKE TO HOST EVENTS. WHETHER IT'S A TOURNAMENTS, WHETHER IT'S A CORPORATE SPONSORED EVENT, ETC. IS THERE AN APPETITE FOR US TO DO THAT ON THOSE COURTS? IF SO, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE'D LIKE TO BE INVOLVED WITH AS THE DISCUSSIONS, OR SHOULD WE LEAVE THAT UP TO THE PARKS AND RECS AND THEIR GROUP OF FOLKS THAT GET TOGETHER AND, AND WHICH I AM PART OF, BUT TO GET TOGETHER AND TALK ABOUT THAT, SOMETHING TO CONSIDER. I'LL BRING IT BACK AT OUR NEXT MEETING AFTER YOU'VE THOUGHT ABOUT IT FOR A WHILE, AND WE CAN HAVE AN OPEN[01:50:01]
DISCUSSION, UNLESS YOU WANT TO DO THAT NOW. BUT SO I KNOW THERE WAS SOME INTEREST IN ORGANIZATIONS TO USE IT AS A FUNDRAISING OPPORTUNITY. SO, YOU KNOW, THE AND THAT'S EVEN ANOTHER ADDITIONAL THOUGHT IS YEAH. SO AND I'M NOT TRYING TO JUST PICK OUT ONE ORGANIZATION, BUT LIKE THE NEW ALBANY CHAMBER OF COMMERCE DECIDES THEY WANT TO HAVE A PICKLEBALL TOURNAMENT AND THEY'RE GOING TO RAISE MONEY FOR THEIR CHARITABLE PURPOSE. I GUESS, IF I MAY VIEW IT DIFFERENTLY, IF IT WAS JUST A FOR PROFIT ENTITY THAT WANTED TO COME IN HERE AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF OUR COURTS, TAKE DAYS OFF THE CALENDAR FOR PUBLIC USE JUST TO MAKE MONEY. SO I JUST I'M JUST PUTTING THAT OUT THERE. I JUST AT FIRST BLUSH, THAT WOULD BE A CONCERN I WOULD HAVE. OKAY. AND THERE. DEFINITELY THE UTILIZATION OF THOSE COURTS PROBABLY ARE THE HIGHEST ON THE WEEKENDS AND EVENINGS, WHICH WOULD PROBABLY BE THE PEAK TIME THAT EVENTS LIKE THAT WOULD TAKE PLACE AS WELL. SO YEAH, WELL THINK ABOUT IT. I'LL, I'LL BRING IT BACK UP AT OUR NEXT MEETING.WE HAVE ALL OF COUNCIL HERE AND GET SOME DIRECTION EITHER WAY ON THAT OKAY. THANK YOU. YEAH I'M I'M OPEN TO IT. I DO THINK WE NEED TO HAVE LIKE A POLICY. TO ASLAN'S POINT, THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN WHO WE'RE LETTING USE THE COURT AND IF IT'S A REVENUE GENERATOR. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. ANY UPDATE FROM NEW ALBANY PLAIN LOCAL SCHOOLS? YES. THEY HAD A MEETING LAST NIGHT. THEY DID THEIR IT WAS A CURATED MEETING BECAUSE IT WAS A SNOW DAY. SO A LOT OF FOLKS DIDN'T MAKE IT IN, BUT THEY DID HAVE THEIR ORG MEETING. DEBORAH KALINOWSKI IS ONCE AGAIN THE PRESIDENT. AND JOHN MCCLELLAN WAS UNANIMOUSLY SELECTED AS THE VICE PRESIDENT FOR THE NEXT TERM. THAT WAS THE CONCLUSION OF THE ORG MEETING. THE REGULAR MEETING, LIKE I SAID, WAS VERY BRIEF. BASICALLY.
SUPERINTENDENT SAWYERS INDICATED THAT THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD FOR THE FUTURE SCHOOL CALENDARS IS OPEN NOW. SO FOR THE NEXT 30 DAYS, YOU CAN THEY'RE ACCEPTING PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ALL OF THE CALENDARS THROUGH 2029. AND THAT WAS LITERALLY THE EXTENT OF THE MEETING. ALL RIGHT. ANY UPDATE FROM THE TOWNSHIP? HELLO, MR. DIRKS, NOT HERE. I THINK THERE'S A BINGO EVENT COMING UP. ALL
[14. REPORTS OF CITY OFFICIALS]
RIGHT. REPORTS OF CITY OFFICIALS. NO UPDATE FROM THE MAYOR. ANY UPDATE FROM THE CLERK JUST TO WATCH YOUR EMAILS. I'M GOING TO BE REACHING OUT TO MARK. SEE ANNUAL STATE OF THE REGION. RESERVATIONS ARE COMING UP. SO I'M GOING TO SEE IF HE WANTS TO GO TO THAT. AND ALSO FOR THE FOUR COUNCIL MEMBERS I HAVE PRESENT, WE'RE STILL GOOD FOR THAT GROUP PHOTO. NEXT COUNCIL MEETING. YES. OKAY. I GOT MY HAIRCUT SHAVED AND EVERYTHING. I'M READY TO GO.OKAY. IT'S TWO WEEKS. YEAH. SO I'M SURE I DID ALREADY LAST WEEK. PLEASE, MAN, IT TAKES YOU FIVE MINUTES TO BE READY. SURE. COMMUNICATIONS TEAM IS GOING TO SEND OUT A REMINDER TO WHAT TO WEAR, HOW TO BE. I THOUGHT WE WERE GOING PLAID. WE CHANGE. THAT'S OFTEN THE CLERK. ALL RIGHT. ANY UPDATE FROM THE FINANCE DIRECTOR? NOTHING MUCH TO REPORT OTHER THAN WE'RE VERY CLOSE TO CLOSING 2024, AND WE HAVE NOT NEEDED TO USE THE $100,000 IN CONTINGENCY FOR BUDGET. SO WE'VE ALREADY SUBMITTED OUR FINAL APPROPRIATION FOR 2024 TO THE COUNTY. AND WE ACTUALLY ALSO SUBMITTED OUR CERTIFICATE TO THE COUNTY FOR 25 TODAY. ALL RIGHT.
GOOD NEWS. ANY UPDATE FROM THE CITY MANAGER? JUST TWO VERY QUICK ITEMS. I ATTENDED THE CENTRAL OHIO MAYORS AND MANAGERS ASSOCIATION MEETING LAST FRIDAY. IT WAS HOSTED BY MAYOR BIKINI AND THE CITY OF REYNOLDSBURG. THEY HAD AN INTERESTING PROGRAM THAT THEY FEATURED AS PART OF THE PRESENTATION TO THE GROUP. AND THAT IS A THEY HAVE A COUPLE OF OFFICERS ASSIGNED TO A COMMUNITY POLICING PROGRAM. SO IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO THE SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICER, BUT IT'S A COMMUNITY RESOURCE OFFICER TEAM. AND THEY'RE ALSO SUPPORTED BY AN IN-HOUSE SOCIAL WORKER. SO YOU KNOW, AS OFFICERS DEAL WITH THE LAW ENFORCEMENT ASPECT OF SOME OF THE SITUATIONS THEY HAVE THERE, THEY HAVE THIS IN-HOUSE ABILITY TO REFER A SOCIAL WORKER TO ANY FAMILIES THAT ARE DEALING WITH SOME TYPE OF A, YOU KNOW, A SITUATION OR CRISIS. SO IT SEEMS TO BE VERY POPULAR. THE OFFICERS, THEY SAID THERE WAS A THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF AN ADJUSTMENT PERIOD TO TRY TO UNDERSTAND THE ROLE OF THE SOCIAL WORKER, HOW THAT RELATED TO THE OFFICERS. BUT IT SEEMS TO BE A VERY POPULAR RESOURCE WITHIN THEIR POLICE DEPARTMENT. AND THEN THEY ALSO PASSED OUT.
THEY HAVE THESE LIKE PLAYING CARDS THAT HAVE THE PICTURES OF THEIR DIFFERENT OFFICERS, AND APPARENTLY SOME ARE IN, SOME ARE A LITTLE MORE DIFFICULT TO TRY TO COLLECT. I THINK THEY SAID
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THE CHIEF'S CARD IS PRETTY RARE. IT'S PRETTY RARE, PRETTY HARD TO COME BY. SO THEY PASSED THOSE OUT AS WELL. AND THEN THE LAST THING IS, YOU KNOW, THIS IS MIKE BARKER'S LAST MEETING, LAST COUNCIL MEETING. AND I JUST WANTED TO THANK HIM FOR ALL OF HIS DEDICATED SERVICE TO THE CITY. HE'S DONE A GREAT JOB IN HIS VARIOUS CAPACITIES AND OF COURSE, MOST RECENTLY AS SERVICE DIRECTOR. AND AGAIN, VERY THANKFUL FOR HIS CONTRIBUTIONS. I WAS GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT DURING COUNCIL COMMENT, BUT THANKS, MIKE. IS THAT IT? IS THAT SUM IT UP FOR YOU? I LITERALLY WROTE THAT DOWN SO I DIDN'T FORGET. THANKS. THANKS, MIKE. YES. NO, SERIOUSLY MIKE, WHEN WE HEARD ABOUT THIS A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, WE WERE, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY KIND OF OUT OF THE BLUE, BUT UNDERSTAND THE OPPORTUNITY AND IT'S WELL DESERVED. SO WE TRULY APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE, NOT JUST IN YOUR ROLE, YOU KNOW, IN A PROFESSIONAL MANNER, BUT YOU KNOW, YOU DO THE ONE VIDEO, YOU BECOME A SUPERSTAR AND THEN YOU'RE CHECKING OUT AND YOU'RE GONE. RIGHT. WRITE THAT DOWN. JOSH, DON'T. JOSH, THAT'S YOUR FAULT IN THE JOB. YEAH. JOSH.BUT SERIOUSLY THOUGH, THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING, MIKE. AND MAYBE OUR PATHS WILL CROSS SOMETIME DOWN THE ROAD. YEAH, WELL, I'M GOING TO REALLY MISS YOU. ALL OF OUR PICKLEBALL DISCUSSIONS THAT WE'VE HAD OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS, I'M NOT SURE YOU'LL MISS IT AS MUCH, BUT I WILL. NO, I WISH YOU THE BEST OF LUCK. YOU'RE GOING TO DO GREAT JOB OVER THERE IN DUBLIN. AND OUR LOSSES, THERE ARE DEFINITE GAINS, SO I WISH YOU ALL THE BEST. YEAH, SURE. I'M IN CHARGE OF SNOWPLOWING IN NEW ALBANY, BUT WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO DO? YEAH, GO TO DUBLIN, GO TO DUBLIN. GO. HEY, IT SNOWS IN DUBLIN TOO. YEAH, I GUESS I JUST, I JUST WANT TO THANK THIS COUNCIL AND CERTAINLY OUR LEADERSHIP TEAM. JOE AND JEN TOOK A FLIER ON ME MANY YEARS AGO, AND I THINK I'VE BEEN AFFORDED A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES, AND I'VE BEEN VERY FORTUNATE TO BE ABLE TO REALLY ADVANCE AND LEARN AND GROW AS BEING A PART OF THIS TEAM. SO THIS IS NEW ALBANY, SOMETHING THAT'S JUST FOREVER GOING TO BE A PART OF ME. SO I VALUE THE TEAM AND VALUE MY TIME HERE. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU MIKE. ALL JOKING ASIDE, APPRECIATE YOUR YEARS OF DEDICATED SERVICE. THE CITIZENS OF NEW ALBANY BENEFITED FROM YOUR TIRELESS EFFORTS. I CAN I KNOW YOU ALWAYS LOVE TO GET A TEXT FROM ME. YOU'RE LIKE, OH, THAT'S THAT'S THAT. NOTHING ELSE TO DO TODAY. BUT YOU ALWAYS CAME THROUGH. I MEAN, NEARLY IMMEDIATELY TO HELP SOLVE SOMETHING THAT A CITIZEN WAS CONCERNED ABOUT RIGHT THEN. SO I APPRECIATE THAT CUSTOMER SERVICE. YOU NEVER LOST SIGHT OF THAT RESPONSIBILITY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ANY UPDATE FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY? NOTHING TO ADD. ALL RIGHT. CALL FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. CALL FOR COUNCIL COMMENT. ANY ADDITIONAL COUNCIL COMMENT? THANKS, MIKE. ALL RIGHT. EXECUTIVE SESSION. I MOVE
[17. EXECUTIVE SESSION]
THAT WE ADJOURN TO EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO OHIO REVISED CODE ONE 2120 2G1 FOR DISCUSSION REGARDING APPOINTMENT, EMPLOYMENT, DISMISSAL, DISCIPLINE, PROMOTION, DEMOTION OR COMPENSATION OF A PUBLIC EMPLOYEE OR OFFICIAL, SPECIFICALLY REGARDING BOARDS AND COMMISSION APPOINTEES. I WILL SECOND THAT. MAYOR SPALDING. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER.SHAW. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. BRISK. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. KISS. YES. NINE FOUR. YES. VOTES TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AT 8:45 P.M. FOR THOSE FOLLOWING ALONG WITH THE MEETING, WE WILL TURN OFF THE SOUND, BUT WE'LL LEAVE THE VIDEO RUNNING WHEN WE COME BACK FOR THE REGULAR MEETING. WE DO ANTICIPATE ACTION AFTERWARDS. WE WILL MOTION TO COME OUT WELL, YEAH. IF YOUR MICROPHONE IS ON, WE'RE PRESSING. PULL IT. ARE PUSHING SOUND. I MOVE, WE COME OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION SECOND. TO COUNCIL MEMBER SHELL. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER KIST. YES.
MAYOR. SPALDING. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. BRISK. YES FOR YES. VOTES TO COME OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION AT 9:20 P.M. CLERK. MASON, DID YOU NEED SOME ACTION TAKEN ON THIS PIECE OF PAPER YOU HANDED ME? WE DO. SO WE HAVE SOME REAPPOINTMENTS TO MAKE FOR TERMS THAT ENDED ON BOARD FOR JUST REGULAR TERMS OF BOARD AND COMMISSIONS THAT CAME UP AT COUNCIL'S REQUEST. DEPUTY CLERK CHRISTINA AND I REACHED OUT TO THOSE BOARD MEMBERS, AND ALL OF THEM AGREED TO BE REAPPOINTED, WHICH I CONSIDER TO BE A COMPLIMENT TO THE CITY AND COUNCIL. SO IF I COULD GET A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER KIST, I BELIEVE ON. REAPPOINTMENTS SLASH. I DON'T REMEMBER THE NEW TITLE. I HAVE SOME BOARD AND COMMISSION REAPPOINTMENTS THAT I WOULD MOVE TO REAPPOINT THE FOLLOWING PERSONS AND THEIR RESPECTIVE BOARDS FOR THE TERM SPECIFIED IN THE COUNCIL CLERK'S MEMO TO COUNCIL DATED JANUARY 6TH, 2025. AND YOU WANT ME TO READ ALL OF THEM INTO THE
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RECORD? YEAH. ONTO THE RECORD. CEMETERY RESTORATION ADVISORY BOARD MARY FEE AND JEFFREY GASTINEAU, COMMUNITY IMPROVEMENT CORPORATION EVERETT GALLAGHER, RON DAVIES, COLLEEN BRISCOE AND AMIT GREENSTEIN, ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD ALAN HANSEN AND FRANCIS STRAHLER, BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS TIANA SAMUELS, NEW ALBANY PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD OF TRUSTEES RICHARD WILLIAMS AND DAVID DEMERS, PARK AND TRAIL ADVISORY BOARD. CHAS STEELMAN, PLANNING COMMISSION NEIL KIRBY AND DAVID WALLACE, INCOME TAX BOARD OF REVIEW BRIAN ZETTS NANCY, I'LL SECOND.COUNCIL MEMBER. CASS. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. SHAW. YES. MAYOR. SPALDING. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. BRUCE. YES. FOUR. YES. VOTES TO REAPPOINT THE BOARD AND COMMISSION MEMBERS. READ OFF BY
[18. OTHER BUSINESS]
COUNCIL MEMBER KISS FOR NEW TERMS AS SPECIFIED IN COUNCIL'S MEMO. AND THEN MAYOR SPALDING HAS A SOLE APPOINTMENT THAT DOESN'T REQUIRE A VOTE. BUT I DO WANT TO GET HIM ON THE RECORD.ALL RIGHT. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO REAPPOINT LONG TERM NEW ALBANY RESIDENT ATTORNEY EXTRAORDINAIRE, GLENN REDDICK TO THE PUBLIC RECORDS COMMISSION FOR THE TERM 112 5 TO 12 3126.
SECOND, WE ACTUALLY DON'T NEED ONE. THAT'S HIS. IT DOESN'T REQUIRE COUNCIL CONSENT AS A RULE. SO HAVING REAPPOINTED IT, WE WILL WELCOME MR. REDDICK BACK. AND THAT IS ALL THAT I NEED FROM COUNCIL. ANYONE ELSE? ALL RIGHT. IF THERE'S NO FURTHER BUSINESS, I MOVE THAT WE ADJOURN. I'LL SECOND. I THINK DIANE'S READY TO GO, AND WE ARE ADJOURNING AT 9:22 P.M. GOOD NIGHT ALL. GOOD NIGHT.
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