[I. Call to order]
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COMMISSION MEMBERS. I'D LIKE TO CALL TO ORDER THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING FOR WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 22ND, 2025. CAN YOU HEAR THE ROLL, PLEASE? MR. KIRBY? PRESENT. MR. WALLACE.
PRESENT. MR. SHELL. PRESENT. MR. LARSON. PRESENT. MISS BRIGGS. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER. WILTROUT.
HERE. ALL VOTING MEMBERS ARE PRESENT. WE HAVE A QUORUM. THANK YOU. ITEM TWO. ITEM THREE IS
[III. Action on minutes: December 16, 2024]
ACTION ON THE MINUTES FROM DECEMBER. DO WE HAVE ANY CORRECTIONS TO THE DECEMBER MINUTES? NONE. NONE? NONE. DO YOU HAVE ANY EITHER? I HAD ONE CORRECTION. GO AHEAD. JUST A MOMENT TO LOCATE IT.ON PAGE SEVEN, AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE, THE COMMENTS ATTRIBUTED TO ME RIGHT ABOVE THE LAST COMMENT ON PAGE SEVEN. I THINK THE COMMENT I MADE IS CLEARER. IF IT'S IF IT'S WRITTEN, SORT OF. I THINK IT'S THE SUBJUNCTIVE WHERE IT SAYS THERE, THERE WOULD STILL HAVE BEEN THREE VARIANCE REQUESTS. THE WAY IT READS NOW IS, WOULD BE STILL SUGGESTING THE FUTURE.
AND REALLY THE COMMENT WAS, WAS, WAS DIRECTED BACKWARDS. SO THAT'S MY ONLY CHANGE. ANY OTHERS? DO I HEAR A MOTION ON THE MINUTES FROM DECEMBER? I MOVE TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM THE DECEMBER 16TH, 2024 MEETING, AS CORRECTED. DO I HEAR A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? ON THE MINUTES? OKAY. THE ROLL PLEASE. MR. WALLACE? YES. MISS BRIGGS? YES. MR. SHELL. YES. MR. LAWSON. YES. MR. KIRBY. YES. THE MOTION PASSES WITH ALL VOTES TO APPROVE
[IV. Additions or corrections to the agenda]
THE MINUTES AS CORRECTED. THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS TO THE AGENDA? STAFF RECOMMENDS MOVING THE NEW ALBANY PLAIN LOCAL SCHOOL PRESENTATION AHEAD OF TONIGHT'S FORMAL CASES.OKAY. ANY OTHER CHANGES? NO OTHER CHANGES. THANK YOU. WOULD EVERYONE WHO WISHES TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION TONIGHT PLEASE RISE? DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? THANK YOU. THIS IS ALSO A GOOD TIME TO SILENCE YOUR CELL PHONES. ITEM FIVE. HEARING OF VISITORS WHO ARE NOT ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA. DO WE HAVE ANY SUCH VISITORS? HEARING NONE, WE
[VII. Other business (Part 1 of 2)]
WILL MOVE TO THE PLAIN LOCAL SCHOOL PRESENTATION, WHICH HAS BEEN MOVED TO THE FRONT OF THE AGENDA. CAN WE HEAR FROM STAFF OR THE PRESENTATION? OKAY. THANK YOU. PARDON THIS. GOOD EVENING.I'M PAUL MILLER WITH SHORE ARCHITECTS. I'M HERE WITH MY COLLEAGUE NATHAN GAMMELLA, WHO WILL ALSO BE PRESENTING HERE TONIGHT. TONIGHT OUR AGENDA IS TO SHARE AN OVERVIEW OF UPCOMING PROJECTS BETWEEN NOW AND 2030. THAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS GOING TO BE INVOLVED IN. SEVERAL OF THOSE WILL BE COMING TO THIS PLANNING COMMISSION. WE JUST RECENTLY, LAST WEEK DID A SIMILAR PRESENTATION FOR THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD. AND WE WILL BE GOING SOON, EARLY NEXT MONTH TO PLANNING. EXCUSE ME, CITY COUNCIL TO SHARE WITH THEM AS WELL. AND NATHAN WILL TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE OTHER. OUR AGENDA AND REVIEW BOARDS THAT WE'LL BE GOING TO. I'M GOING TO GIVE AN OVERVIEW OF ALL THE PROJECTS. AND THEN NATHAN'S GOING TO FOCUS ON ONE SPECIFICALLY, WHICH IS THE TRANSPORTATION FACILITY AND FIRE SUBSTATION. PROJECT THAT WE'RE IN THE INITIAL DESIGN STAGES OF RIGHT NOW. WITH US TONIGHT AS WELL, I SHOULD POINT OUT, MEMBERS OF OUR TEAM FROM KLEIN KLINGER'S GROUP, MEGAN SEAR AND CARLA SAMMONS. OUR CIVIL ENGINEERS AND LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS, RESPECTIVELY. AND THEN ALSO FROM NEW ALBANY SCHOOLS. SUPERINTENDENT. SAWYERS AND TREASURER JENKINS ARE UNABLE TO JOIN US HERE TONIGHT, BUT WE DO HAVE WITH US KEN KRAMER AND LORI LOFTON, WHO YOU SEE SEATED HERE BEHIND ME TO MY RIGHT. ALSO WITH US TONIGHT IS FROM FIRE CHIEF CONNORS AND JILL BECKETT HILL ARE HERE REPRESENTING THE FIRE IS A PART OF THAT SUBSTATION THAT WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT ON THAT PROJECT. SO AS YOU'RE AWARE, THE BOND ISSUE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT ON THAT. FOR THE SCHOOLS PASSED
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THIS LAST NOVEMBER. THOSE PROJECTS FUNDED FROM THAT BOND ISSUE ARE BROKEN UP INTO TWO MAJOR PHASES. WE'LL BE TALKING PRIMARILY. FIRST, THE PHASE ONE PROJECTS. BUT I WANT TO GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT'S HAPPENING IN PHASE TWO. SEVERAL OF THESE PROJECTS ARE HAPPENING ON THE SCHOOL CAMPUS SITE AND WILL IMPACT EACH OTHER. AND THEN I HAVE ALSO HAVE A LIST OF PROJECTS THAT WOULD BE FUNDED SEPARATELY. THAT'S IN THE PI FUNDED CATEGORY. AND DEPENDING ON HOW THE SCHOOL BUDGET WORKS OUT, THOSE MAY OR MAY NOT GO. SO THEY'RE POTENTIAL PROJECTS, BUT THEY'RE INCLUDED IN THE MASTER PLAN THAT SHORE ARCHITECTS PROVIDED FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WHEN ESTABLISHING THOSE BUDGETS. THE REASON FOR THE PHASE ONE AND PHASE TWO IS THAT THE SCHOOLS DO HAVE SOME BONDS THAT DROP OFF. AND SO IN ORDER TO HAVE NO NEW MILLAGE FOR THE TAXPAYERS IS BROKEN UP INTO THESE TWO PHASES OF PROJECTS. SO HIGH LEVEL WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY THROUGH ABOUT 2027 IS WHEN THE PHASE TWO FUNDING BECOMES AVAILABLE. AND SO THOSE PROJECTS WOULD BE HITTING THAT 2728 TIME PERIOD, AND THEN WE'D BE COMPLETING EVERYTHING AROUND 20, 30, 31 TO GIVE YOU A GENERAL ROADMAP IN PHASE ONE. WE HAVE A NEW PRIMARY ELEMENTARY SCHOOL PROJECT. THIS IS LOCATED NEAR THE EXISTING INTERMEDIATE SCHOOL THAT IS OFF OF SWICKARD WOODS BOULEVARD. THE FOOTPRINT OF THIS SCHOOL WOULD BE WHERE THE EXISTING BASEBALL AND SOFTBALL FIELDS ARE, ACROSS FROM THE WEXNER BALL FIELDS AT THAT SITE, THE SCHOOL WILL INCLUDE 250 SEATS FOR KINDERGARTEN AND 1000 SEATS THAT ARE FIRST AND SECOND GRADES, SO IT'S A SUBSTANTIAL SCHOOL FOOTPRINT. THIS IS THE FOOTPRINT FROM THE MASTER PLAN. THAT PLAN HAS EVOLVED TO LOOK MORE LIKE THIS IS OUR CURRENT WORKING FLOOR PLAN, THAT IT WOULD THEN SIT ON THE SITE. IT'S A LITTLE BIT HARD TO READ, BUT THIS SHOWS YOU THE BACKGROUND OF WHERE THE BALL FIELDS ARE AS WELL OF WHERE THIS SITS ON THE SITE. RELATED TO THIS PROJECT IS OUR PROJECT NUMBER TWO, WHICH ARE IMPROVEMENTS TO SWICKARD WOODS BOULEVARD. THIS IS REALLY A CITY PROJECT FOR THE INTERSECTION ITSELF, AND THEY ENVISION A LIGHTED INTERSECTION THERE. AND WE'RE WORKING IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE CITY TO DISCUSS WHAT ARE THE NEW DEMANDS REQUIRED OF THIS SITE WITH THE NEW SCHOOL, HOW THIS IMPACTS BUS TRAFFIC, AND PARENT DROP OFF PICK UP TRAFFIC, AND ALL THOSE IMPACTS TO THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD. SO THERE'S DEFINITELY MORE COMING ON THIS SITE IN DETAILS.THIS IS JUST TO GIVE YOU A HEADS UP THAT THAT'S COMING DOWN THE ROAD. WE'RE IN THE INITIAL DESIGN STAGES OF THIS PROJECT. WE DO HOPE TO BREAK GROUND THIS FALL GOING INTO WINTER. SO WE'RE ON AN AGGRESSIVE DESIGN SCHEDULE TO HAMMER OUT ALL THE DETAILS ON THIS PROJECT. CERTAINLY SITTING OVER THE FOOTPRINT OF THE EXISTING BALL FIELDS MEANS THAT WE NEED TO ESTABLISH NEW BASEBALL AND SOFTBALL PLAYING FIELDS FOR THE SCHOOL. WE UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE OUT A SEASON IF WE START CONSTRUCTION THIS FALL. FOR NEXT YEAR OF 26. WE'RE IN CONVERSATIONS AGAIN WITH WITH CITY AND PARKS AND REC FOR ESTABLISHING FIELDS AT BETHEL PARK THAT MAY BE SUITABLE FOR THE SCHOOL. WE'RE AGAIN IN CONVERSATIONS OF WHAT EXACTLY THAT MEANS FOR US TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. THE LONGER TERM PLAN FOR BASEBALL AND SOFTBALL IS THE IMAGE THAT YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN. THIS IS IN CONJUNCTION WORKING WITH NICO OF THE DEVELOPMENT OF ROUND GANTON PARKWAY. AND SO THAT'S JUST EAST OF THIS BUILDING HERE RIGHT NOW.
BUT THIS PROJECT WOULD INCLUDE TWO BASEBALL FIELDS, TWO SOFTBALL FIELDS. RIGHT NOW WE'RE PLANNING ON SYNTHETIC TURF FOR THE INFIELDS ON THOSE PROJECTS. SO OBVIOUSLY STORMWATER DETENTION AND LANDSCAPE ALL REQUIRED FOR THAT. THIS WOULD INCLUDE A PRESS BOX, DUGOUTS FOR EACH OF THE FIELDS, AS WELL AS A PRACTICE BASEBALL SOFTBALL HITTING FACILITY THAT WOULD BE LOCATED ON THIS SITE. SO SEVERAL PROJECTS, ALL NEEDING ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARDS AND PLANNING COMMISSION INPUT ON THIS. THIS IS DOWN THE COMING IN THE PIPELINE. WE'RE WE'RE AGAIN IN INITIAL DESIGN STAGES OF THIS PROJECT, AND WE'RE WORKING WITH NACO TO HAMMER OUT THE FINAL FOOTPRINT OF HOW THIS WOULD SIT ON THE SITE. HOPE THERE'S WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE ON THIS
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SITE THAT'S SURROUNDING US, BUT WE'RE HOPING THAT WE'RE STARTING THE CONSTRUCTION OF THESE FIELDS IN SPRING OF 26 FOR PLAY OF 27 IN THE SPRING. NATHAN WILL SHARE MORE ABOUT THE TRANSPORTATION AND FIRE SUBSTATION PROJECT, BUT WE'RE EXCITED FOR ANOTHER PARTNERSHIP HERE WITH FIRE OF RECOGNIZING SIMILAR NEEDS FOR BOTH BUSSES AND FIRE APPARATUS IN TERMS OF HEAVY DUTY PAVEMENT, LARGE TURN RADIUSES AND THE LOCATION OF THIS SITE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. AND SO THERE ARE CERTAINLY EFFICIENCIES OF CONSTRUCTING THESE IN A JOINT FACILITY. AND I'LL LET NATHAN SHARE THE DETAILS ON THAT FOLLOWING MY PRESENTATION. ALSO IN PHASE ONE IS A NEW TECHNOLOGY HUB FOR THE HIGH SCHOOL PROGRAM. THE BUILDING, LOCATED LABELED THERE J ON THE SCREEN. THIS IS THE EXISTING BARE, EXCUSE ME DOMED BUILDING THAT'S ON THE CAMPUS OF THE FRONTS DUBLIN-GRANVILLE ROAD. THERE'S NOT PROPOSED EXTERIOR IMPROVEMENTS OTHER THAN MAYBE MAINTENANCE AND ROOF WINDOWS. IF WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT BUILDING AND DO OUR ASSESSMENT. BUT THIS IS PRIMARILY AN INTERIOR RENOVATION PROJECT. BUT THE ANTICIPATION IS THAT BUILDING GETS FULLY GUTTED AND REFURBISHED INTO THIS NEW TECHNOLOGY HUB. MIDDLE SCHOOL IS GETTING SOME ATTENTION. THE BALL FIELD, THE EXCUSE ME, THE STADIUM THERE FOR IMPROVEMENTS.WE'RE LOOKING AT CONCESSIONS. WE'RE LOOKING AT RESTROOMS, POTENTIALLY ADDITIONAL PARKING THAT YOU'RE SEEING ON THAT DIAGRAM. WE HAVEN'T DELVED INTO ANY OF THE DETAILS OF THIS YET.
WE START THAT EARLY FEBRUARY. SO IT'S COMING UP. BUT THIS WOULD BE A SYNTHETIC TURF FIELD THAT YOU SEE LABELED Q. AND THEN TWO GRASS FIELDS THAT ARE LABELED R IN THIS DIAGRAM. THAT'S PHASE ONE. PHASE TWO HAS TWO MAJOR PROJECTS TIED TO IT. WHAT'S LABELED IN G ON THE SCREEN THAT'S IN THE BLUE IS A NEW CAFETERIA SPACE AND FINE ARTS HUB FOR THE HIGH SCHOOL AND MIDDLE SCHOOL. YOU SEE HOW IT IS SANDWICHED BETWEEN THREE EXISTING BUILDINGS, AND THERE'S A LOT OF UTILITIES THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO WORK THROUGH OF HOW WE ACTUALLY PULL THIS OFF.
BUT WE DO UNDERSTAND THIS PROJECT WILL HAVE A NEW FACE TO DUBLIN-GRANVILLE ROAD FOR THE SCHOOL COMPLEX, SO WE DEFINITELY WANT TO BE GETTING EARLY TO ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARDS AND TO PLANNING COMMISSIONS, ETC, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT EVERYONE'S GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF OPINIONS ABOUT THIS PROJECT. I THINK THANKFULLY WE HAVE SOME TIME AHEAD OF US BECAUSE THIS WON'T HIT TILL THAT PHASE TWO OF FUNDING THAT BECOMES AVAILABLE IN 27. WE'LL PROBABLY START DESIGN WORK A LITTLE BIT AHEAD OF THAT. AND THEN THE HIGH SCHOOL SCIENCE HUB IS LABELED THERE IN H. THAT'S AN EXISTING BUILDING IN THE PINK PORTION. SO THAT'S A COMPLETE GUT AND RENOVATION OF THAT EXISTING BUILDING AND THEN AN ADDITION TO THE NORTH. AND WE'RE MAXING OUT THAT SITE FOR THAT ADDITIONAL SQUARE FOOTAGE FOR SCIENCE CLASSROOMS. SOME OF THE POTENTIAL PROJECTS THAT THAT MAY BE COMING. AND AGAIN, THAT'S GOING TO BE DRIVEN FROM FINANCIALLY. AND THESE ARE SEPARATE FROM THE BOND ISSUE PROJECTS. BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT AN EXPANSION OF THE EXISTING DISTRICT OFFICES. SO OF COURSE THERE'S THE MEDICAL CENTER THAT THEY'RE CO-SHARING AND THEY'RE BUILDING RIGHT NOW. THIS WOULD BE TAKING OVER THAT ENTIRE SPACE AS A AS A POTENTIAL PROJECT THERE. DEMOLITION OF THE EXISTING ANNEX BUILDING, WHICH IS THE OLD BRICK SCHOOL BUILDING, THE 1921 BUILDING. PARDON, ALSO KNOWN AS THE 1921 BUILDING. OR ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT FOR ME OR LORI? YES. 1921 BUILDING. YES. AND ADDING ADDITIONAL PARKING TO RIGHTSIZE THE PARKING LOT NEEDS FOR THE PRIMARY SCHOOL THAT'S THERE. SO THAT WOULD BE UNDER THAT LABEL. E DON'T TAKE ANYTHING AWAY FROM HERE BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S NO PARKING LOT ISLANDS. ET CETERA. THIS IS DIAGRAMMATIC FOR THE HIGH LEVEL MASTER PLAN PROCESS.
BUT BUT THESE ARE THE ELEMENTS THAT ARE POTENTIALLY IN PLAY ON THAT SITE. F REPRESENTS A NEW STORAGE FACILITY FOR MAINTENANCE. K WOULD BE AN ADDITIONAL STORAGE AGAIN FOR THE MCCOY. AND ALL OF THOSE PROJECTS I RECOGNIZE ARE KIND OF INTERPLAY WITH EACH OTHER. AND
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SO THAT'S WHAT WE'LL NEED TO GET AHEAD OF IN TERMS OF MASTER PLANNING. IF SOME OR ALL OF THOSE PROJECTS GO, WE NEED TO BE DESIGNING THAT SITE TO ITS FINAL CONDITION. CONSIDERING ALL THE THINGS LIKE TREE REPLACEMENTS AND IMPERVIOUS SURFACING OF HOW WE DO THAT, MAYBE IN AN INCREMENTAL OR CARVED OUT BY PROJECT MANNER. BUT THOSE ARE ALL THOSE ARE ALL DOWN THE ROAD AS THOSE COME. ALSO ON OUR LIST ARE IMPROVEMENTS TO LOCKER ROOMS AND GYM SPACES, ATHLETIC STORAGE. THOSE ARE ALL INTERIOR RENOVATION PROJECTS. PROBABLY DON'T NEED TO COME TO THIS COMMISSION, BUT JUST SO YOU'RE AWARE, THOSE ARE A PART OF THE MASTER PLAN FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. SO WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO HAND IT OFF TO NATHAN TO SPEAK TO THE FIRE AND TRANSPORTATION. THANK YOU. PAUL. MEMBERS OF THE BOARD AND COMMUNITY, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME THIS EVENING. I AM NATHAN GEMMELL WITH SHORE ARCHITECTS. I AM THE ARCHITECT WHO IS MANAGING THE TRANSPORTATION FACILITY AND FIRE SUBSTATION PROJECT. SO TONIGHT, THE GOALS OF THIS MEETING, THIS PRELIMINARY MEETING IS TO SEEK FEEDBACK ON OUR PRELIMINARY DESIGN THAT WE ARE PRESENTING. I WANT TO STRESS THAT NOTHING IS FINAL AND THAT THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR EVERYONE HERE TO ADD TO OUR LIST OF PRIORITIES AND CONSIDERATIONS THAT WE'RE GOING TO SHARE WITH YOU TONIGHT. SO SOME OF THOSE PROJECT PRIORITIES AND CONSIDERATIONS ARE SITE ADJACENCIES AND OUR RELATIONSHIPS TO THE SURROUNDING AREA. WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL AREAS IN THE SURROUNDING AREA, AND WE WANT TO BE CONSCIOUS OF THOSE.WE WANT TO HAVE GOOD INTERSECTION ACCESS. THE FIRE STATION, IN THE EVENT OF AN EMERGENCY, NEEDS TO BE ABLE TO EXIT THE SITE AND BE ABLE TO GET TO THE LOCATION THAT THEY'RE GOING TO IN A TIMELY MANNER. AND WE ALSO NEED GOOD ACCESS FOR DAY TO DAY BUS TRAVEL ON THE SITE.
AND WE'RE ALSO AWARE OF THE JURISDICTIONAL REQUIREMENTS THAT WE HAVE HERE IN NEW ALBANY FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT. WE'RE LOOKING AT THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD, CITY COUNCIL, NEW ALBANY COMPANY PLANNING COMMISSION, AND THE ROCKY FORK BLACKLICK ACCORD. CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULE. SO CURRENTLY, AS PAUL SAID, WE'RE EARLY IN THE DESIGN. WE'RE ACTUALLY KICKING OFF DESIGN, DEVELOPMENT AND PENDING ALL REQUIRED APPROVALS. CONSTRUCTION WILL COMMENCE IN SEPTEMBER OF 2025 AND COMPLETE CONSTRUCTION AROUND JULY OF 2026, WHICH IS AN APPROXIMATELY TEN MONTH DURATION. SO SOME KEY INFORMATION ABOUT THE ACTUAL BUILDING ITSELF. IT IS A SINGLE BUILDING DIVIDED IN HALF BY A FIREWALL WITH, WITH EACH AREA OCCUPIED BY A DIFFERENT TENANT.
YOU CAN SEE IN THE DIAGRAM HERE WHERE FS IS THE FIRE SUBSTATION, TF IS THE TRANSPORTATION FACILITY. AND SO THE FIRE SUBSTATION IS THE EASTERNMOST PART OF THE SITE. TRANSPORTATION ON THE WEST. AND SO EACH OF THE BUILDINGS ARE SIMILAR IN AREA ONE IS ABOUT 1000FTā !S LARGER TN THE OTHER. AND THEN THEY ARE RATHER TALL SPACES, YOU KNOW, 30FT OR THEREABOUTS, SO THAT THEY CAN ACCOMMODATE MEZZANINES FOR STORAGE AND MECHANICALS. SPEAKING OF HEIGHT AND SHAPE, YOU CAN SEE THAT WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH IS A GABLED BUILDING THAT'S AT THREE HEIGHTS. IT WAS ACTUALLY TWO HEIGHTS. AND THEN WE HAD A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD TO BREAK IN EAVE HEIGHT AND MAKE THE BUILDING A LITTLE MORE IN LINE WITH WHAT YOU SEE HERE IN NEW ALBANY. SO A MAJORITY OF THE BUILDING IS AT 35FT. WE HAVE OUR EAVE HEIGHT BREAK AND AT 32FT IS THE FIRE SUBSTATION MAIN ENTRY. AND THEN THE SLEEPING AREA FOR THE FIRE SUBSTATION IS LOWER OFF OF THAT AT APPROXIMATELY 16FT. AND AS ITS LOCATION ON THE SITE IS CONCERNED, THE SITE ITSELF THE ADDRESS IS 7270 NEW ALBANY ROAD AND IT'S APPROXIMATELY 13 ACRES, AND THE BUILDING IS SUBSTANTIALLY SET BACK FROM THE ADJACENT ROADWAYS. TO THE NORTH.
WE HAVE OLD SCHLEPPI ROAD, AND WE'RE 146FT AWAY FROM THAT ROAD. AND THEN ON THE EAST SIDE WE HAVE NEW ALBANY ROAD, AND WE'RE ABOUT 173FT FROM THAT AREA. AND WHAT DOES THAT SITE LOOK LIKE? IT LOOKS LIKE THIS. SO WE'RE TAKING UP A PORTION OF WHAT IS OTHERWISE VERY LARGE PARCEL OF LAND. YOU CAN SEE OLD SCHLEPPI ROAD TO THE NORTH AND NEW ALBANY CONDIT ROAD TO THE EAST. THIS IS AN IMAGE TAKEN FROM A WORKING SITE PLAN THAT WE HAVE, WHICH SHOWS HOW WE'RE LAYING OUT THE SITE, AND WE'LL HAVE SOME SITE PLAN RENDERINGS TO SHARE WITH YOU IN JUST A MOMENT. BUT YOU CAN SEE THE BUILDING'S LOCATION, THAT 173FT AWAY FROM NEW ALBANY CONDIT, AND 143FT AWAY FROM OLD
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SCHLEPPI ROAD, WITH PARKING ON THE SOUTH END OF THE SITE. ONE MAJOR CONSIDERATION FOR THIS SITE IS THAT THERE IS A COLUMBIA GAS TRANSCANADA EASEMENT ON THIS SITE. SO THIS EASEMENT RELATES TO THE TWO HIGH PRESSURE GAS MAINS WHICH RUN BENEATH THE SITE. AND I WANT TO, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE EVERYONE'S AWARE THAT THIS EASEMENT, IT CONTINUES ALL THE WAY THROUGHOUT NEW ALBANY.IT IS NOT JUST A PORTION OF THIS SITE. YOU CAN SEE IN A LOT OF AERIALS WHERE SITES ARE KIND OF CARVED AWAY FOR THIS. THAT'S WHAT THAT THAT SITE IS FOR. THAT'S WHY THEY TAKE THAT SHAPE, BECAUSE WE HAVE THIS GAS LINE EASEMENT. AND WITH THERE BEING AN EASEMENT, WE HAVE SOME PRETTY STRICT GUIDELINES. SO WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO PARK WITHIN TEN FEET OF THE PIPELINE. WE CAN'T HAVE PAVEMENT WITHIN FIVE FEET OF THE PIPELINE, EXCEPT FOR CROSSINGS, WHICH ARE SUPPOSED TO BE 45 AND 90 DEGREES TO THAT CROSSING. SO YOU CAN SEE HOW WE'RE CROSSING SOME OF THESE AREAS 90 DEGREES TO COMPLETELY PERPENDICULAR TO THE GAS LINE EASEMENT. NO PARALLEL TRAVEL BETWEEN LANES WITHIN THE RIGHT OF WAY, AND NO TURNING WITHIN THE RIGHT OF WAY. CROSSING ONLY. SO YOU WON'T BE SEEING US HAVING BIG TURNING AREAS IN THAT EASEMENT AS WE'RE NOT ALLOWED. SO THAT MAKES A PRETTY INTERESTING BUILDING. IS THAT AN EASEMENT OR IS IT A RIGHT OF WAY EASEMENT? OKAY. IT MAKES AN INTERESTING BUILDABLE AREA DIAGRAM THAT WE'RE KIND OF RESTRICTED TO. SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE HAVE CONSIDERATIONS FOR IS WE HAVE A STREAM CORRIDOR PROTECTION ZONE TO THE NORTH, WHICH WE REMAIN 45FT OFF OF. SO THIS, GENERALLY SPEAKING, STARTS TO SHOW WHERE OUR BUILDABLE AREA BECOMES. AND WE'RE TRYING TO UTILIZE THE SITE TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY SO THAT WE CAN GET THE MAXIMUM OUT OF IT. THIS IMAGE HERE HAS A COUPLE OF ITEMS ON THE LEGEND. SO ITEM ONE, WHICH IS IN THAT LARGE PARKING LOT TO THE SOUTH, IS OUR BUS PARKING AREA. ITEM TWO, WHICH IS UP HERE IN THE NORTHWEST CORNER IS EXCUSE ME, WOULD YOU BE SO KIND AS TO USE A POINTER? THE NUMBERS ARE NOT NECESSARILY VISIBLE TO EVERYBODY, BUT THIS HAS A LASER. WHAT DO YOU KNOW? WE FIGURE OUT HOW TO USE IT. IT'S THE RED BUTTON. OH MY GOODNESS. THERE WE GO. THANK YOU FOR THAT. ITEM ONE BUS PARKING IN THIS AREA HERE. ITEM TWO TRANSPORTATION. PARKING UP IN THIS NORTHWEST CORNER. ITEM THREE IS FIRE STATION PARKING. SO ANYONE VISITING THE FIRE STATION WOULD PARK IN THIS AREA. ITEM FOUR IS OUR RETENTION POND. ITEM FIVE ILLUSTRATES THAT GAS LINE EASEMENT. ITEM SIX IS OUR LANDSCAPE BUFFER AROUND THE SOUTH AND EAST SIDE OF THE SITE.
THIS IS NOT NECESSARILY FINAL, WE JUST KNOW THAT THEY WILL NEED TO BE PROVIDING SOME KIND OF A LANDSCAPE BUFFER IN THIS AREA. ITEM SEVEN IS THE FUELING ISLAND FOR THE BUS STATION, AND ITEM EIGHT IS SHOWING THE EXISTING TREE LINE UP HERE IN THE STREAM CORRIDOR PROTECTION ZONE, WHICH WE ARE INTENDING TO REMAIN AND KEEP. AND THEN WE'RE LOOKING AT OUR CIRCULATION DIAGRAM HERE. SO GOING THROUGH EACH INDIVIDUAL ONE. GENERALLY SPEAKING TRANSPORTATION IS THIS BLACK LINE. AND ANYONE WHO IS USING THIS PARKING WILL PARK IN THIS AREA AND HEAD IN THE MAIN ENTRY OF TRANSPORTATION, WHICH IS ON THIS WEST FACADE. AND BUSSES SPECIFICALLY WILL ALSO FOLLOW A SIMILAR ROUTE PASSED BY A SECURE GATE AND BE ABLE TO DO WHATEVER THEY NEED TO DO IN THIS AREA.
PARK, WARM UP AND THEN THEY ALSO CAN EXIT ONTO NEW ALBANY ROAD EAST. THE ORANGE LINE REPRESENTS THE FIRE ROUTING FOR NON-EMERGENCY TRAFFIC, SO THEY WILL ENTER INTO THE SITE, COME PAST THE SECURE GATE AND LOOP AROUND AND PARK WITHIN THE FIRE STATION. AND IN THE EVENT OF AN EMERGENCY. THIS IS SOMETHING WE'VE ADDED SINCE THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD PRESENTATION, BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF CONVERSATION ABOUT GETTING OUT THERE TO 605, THERE IS SOME KIND OF AN EXISTING CURB CUT HERE ON THE SITE THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO COME OUT OF THE BUILDING AND THEN EXIT DIRECTLY OFF THE 605. SOME INTERESTING THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH WITHIN THIS SITE IS THERE'S A VERY LONG RIGHT HAND TURN LANE LOCATED RIGHT HERE. SO WE WANT TO BE SIGNIFICANTLY NORTH OF THAT SO THAT WE'RE NOT BLOCKED IN IN THE EVENT OF AN EMERGENCY.
AS FAR AS PARKING GOES, YOU CAN SEE THE BREAKDOWN OF EVERYTHING HERE. WE HAVE 100 STANDARD SPACES FOR TRANSPORTATION WITH FOUR ACCESSIBLE, AN ADDITIONAL 20 BAND SPACES, AND THEN 90 BUS PARKING SPACES. FOR THE FIRE SUBSTATION. WE HAVE 12 STANDARD SPACES AND ONE ACCESSIBLE SPACE, FOR A TOTAL OF 227 SPACES ON THIS SITE. GETTING INTO THE EXTERIOR DESIGN. SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE COHERENT AND IN THE IN KEEPING WITH NEW ALBANY SOUND ARCHITECTURAL
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DESIGN. SO WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT A COUPLE OF BUILDINGS IN THE AREA WHICH ARE SIMILAR TO WHAT WE ARE DEALING WITH. ONE OF THOSE ADDRESSES IS THE 7800 BETHEL ROAD ADDRESS. THE PUBLIC SERVICE COMPLEX AS WELL AS THE PLAIN TOWNSHIP FIRE DEPARTMENT AT 9500 JONESTOWN ROAD. WE THINK THAT WITH A BUILDING LIKE THIS, YOU KNOW, PROPORTIONS, MATERIAL AND COLOR ARE KEY IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE IN KEEPING WITH THE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN OF NEW ALBANY. AND WE WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT UNAMBIGUOUS ARCHITECTURE. THIS IS A COMBINED BUILDING WHERE ONE OF THE BUILDINGS HAS EMERGENCY SERVICES. IN THE EVENT OF AN EMERGENCY, YOU DON'T WANT TO END UP AT THE TRANSPORTATION BUILDING. YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU GO DIRECTLY TO THE FIRE STATION. SO IN THE EVENT OF A HEALTH EMERGENCY, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS THE NUMBER ONE SPOT THAT IS HIGHLIGHTED ON THE SITE. AND IT'S UNAMBIGUOUS ABOUT WHERE YOU NEED TO GO. SO WE HAVE INTENTIONALLY DESIGNED THIS FACADE TO HIGHLIGHT THAT PARTICULAR ASPECT. SO AS IN DECEMBER 11TH OF 24, WE DID GET SOME COMMENTS BACK FROM THE CITY'S ARCHITECT, DAVID BULLOCK, AS WE HAD SOME CONVERSATION WITH STAFF. AND THEN, AS PAUL MENTIONED, WE RECENTLY HAD A ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD HEARING ON JANUARY 13TH, AND WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF INCORPORATING ALL THE DESIGN ELEMENTS. SOME OF THEM HAVE MADE IT INTO THE DESIGN SO FAR, AND WE'RE WORKING THROUGH EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THOSE THINGS AS WE CONTINUE, AND YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE SOME OF THE CHANGES IN THE RENDERINGS. SO THIS WAS THE RENDERING THAT WE SHARED WITH STAFF ON DECEMBER 11TH OF 24, AND WE GOT SOME COMMENTS BACK FROM DAVID BULLOCK. AND THOSE INCLUDED PROJECTING THAT MAIN FACADE, MAKING SURE THAT OUR WINDOWS HAVE THE PROPER MUNTIN PATTERN, MAKING SURE THAT OUR COLUMNS WERE OF THE RIGHT SIZE, AND HAVING A CULTURED STONE WATER TABLE AROUND THE FIRE STATION AREA. AND THAT EVOLVED OUR FACADE TO LOOKING LIKE THIS. AND THERE WERE SOME COMMENTS FROM THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD IN REGARDS TO COLOR SPACING OF WINDOWS. THE EAVE BREAK THAT I SPOKE ABOUT EARLIER, AS WELL AS JUST KEEPING AN OVERALL CONSISTENCY, SHOWING A VIEW OF THE TRANSPORTATION BUILDING. AND WE'LL SHOW SOME OF THAT TONIGHT. SO THIS IS THE MOST UPDATED RENDERING THAT WE HAVE TO SHARE WITH YOU TONIGHT. SO WE'VE CHANGED THE COLORING TO MATCH WHAT WE HAD HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD ABOUT. WE'VE EVENLY SPACED THE WINDOWS OVER THE OVERHEAD DOORS WHILE MAINTAINING THE TWO PER OVERHEAD DOOR. WE'VE BROKEN THE EAVE, WHICH GIVES IT A NICE STEPPED PATTERN FOR THIS BUILDING. IT DOES. IT READS LIKE THREE SEPARATE FACADES, WHICH IS GREAT. CHANGE THE COLOR OF DOORS AND WINDOWS TO ALL MATCH. MAKE SURE RIGHT NOW WE'RE SHOWING THE PLAIN TOWNSHIP LOGO AT THE VERY TOP OF THAT. WE HAVE SOME POTENTIAL OPTIONS IN THE WORK, WHETHER THAT'S A WINDOW, WHETHER THAT'S THE PLAIN TOWNSHIP FIRE SPECIFIC LOGO, MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE GETTING ALL THAT SQUARED AWAY. THIS IS A AERIAL RENDERING OF THE SITE. AND YOU CAN SEE HOW THAT CONTINUES BACK TO THE WEST SIDE OF THE SITE, WHERE WE ACTUALLY HAVE THE TRANSPORTATION BUILDING ENTRY, SAME RENDERING BUT FROM EYE LEVEL. AND THEN AS YOU ROUND THE BUILDING TO THE TRANSPORTATION SIDE, WE'RE WORKING ON GETTING THIS FACADE.IT'S A LITTLE ROUGH AND READY, BUT WE'RE GETTING IT TO THE POINT WHERE WE CAN BRING IT TO THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD. IT'S GOT TWO ENTRIES INTO IT RIGHT NOW, A MAIN ENTRY OFF TO THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, WHICH IS TOWARDS THE SOUTH OF THE BUILDING. THAT IS THE MAIN VISITOR ENTRY, THAT DOUBLE DOOR ENTRY THAT YOU SEE MORE FRONT OF IMAGE ACTUALLY IS AN ENTRANCE TO THE BREAK ROOM AREA FOR THE TRANSPORTATION FACILITY. AND JUST SOME KEY INFORMATION ON MATERIALS. SO WE ARE LOOKING AT A PRE-ENGINEERED METAL BUILDING, AND THE CURRENT RENDERING INDICATES THAT WE HAVE AN R TYPE PANELED PROFILE. SO THAT'S WHAT I'M SHOWING RIGHT HERE. IT'S GOT ABOUT AN INCH AND A HALF INCH RISE RIB STIFFENERS. AND THEN THE RIBS ARE ABOUT 12IN APART.
AT THE PUBLIC SERVICE COMPLEX IS A SIMILAR PANEL GABLED STANDING SEAM METAL ROOF. WE'RE LOOKING AT THE CULTURED STONE WATER TABLE AROUND THE FIRE SUBSTATION WINDOWS WITH VERTICAL MUNTIN PATTERNS, OVERHEAD DOORS WHICH MATCH THE EXISTING FIRE STATION. THEY HAVE THE TWO ROWS OF WINDOWS AND GOOSENECK STYLE LIGHT FIXTURES. SO THAT'S OUR TIME HERE TONIGHT. AGAIN, NOTHING IS FINAL, BUT WE'D LOVE TO HEAR SOME INITIAL THOUGHTS IF YOU HAVE ANY. WHETHER THEY PERTAIN TO PHASE ONE AND TWO OTHER PROJECTS BESIDES TRANSPORTATION OR TRANSPORTATION SPECIFIC, WE'RE HERE FOR IT. OKAY, ON THE TRANSPORTATION ONE, DO YOU HAVE SUFFICIENT LEVEL TWO CHARGING TO HANDLE THE FLEET OF ALL ELECTRIC BUSSES? BECAUSE OUR CURRENT DIESEL BUSSES PUT A DIESEL EXHAUST PIPE THAT HAD LEVEL ON A KID. I'M TAKING A NOTE ON THAT. SO YOUR QUESTION
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IN REGARDS TO WHETHER WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO HANDLE ELECTRIC BUSSES IN THE ENTIRETY OF THE FLEET, FOR EXAMPLE, BECAUSE THAT'S AN INFRASTRUCTURE AND WIRES ON THE GROUND KIND OF THING. ABSOLUTELY. SO SOME DISCUSSIONS HAVE SORT OF BEEN HAD ABOUT WHAT THE DISTRICT'S FUTURE BUS FLEET LOOKS LIKE. AND SO WE'RE HAVING THOSE DISCUSSIONS AND MAKING THE ABILITY TO HAVE WHATEVER THEY HAVE IN THE FUTURE. NOW, WHETHER THAT'S ELECTRIC OR NOT, WE'RE STILL FIGURING OUT IF THAT IS WHERE THE FUTURE LIES. THE OPERATIONAL COSTS ON DIESEL VERSUS ELECTRICITY ARE HARD TO ARGUE WITH. ABSOLUTELY. I DIDN'T SEE ANY WINDOWS ON THE SECOND STORY OF THE TRANSIT BUILDING. DID I MISS SOMETHING ON THAT RENDERING? THE TRANSPORTATION BUILDING THERE? YEAH. HANG ON. SO AS WE AS WE GO DOWN AND I SHOULD KIND OF EXPLAIN WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE FOOTPRINT HERE. SO THESE ARE ALL RELATED TO THE FIRE STATION. THESE FOUR HERE ARE RELATED TO TRANSPORTATION. SO THIS AREA DOES HAVE SOME NATURAL LIGHT. THIS AREA HERE WILL BE THE MEZZANINE. IT HAS IT HAS SOME EQUIPMENT AS WELL AS SOME STORAGE SPACE. AND WE'RE SORTING OUT KIND OF WHICH SIDE IS WHICH. AND WE WILL BE ADDING WINDOWS ACCORDINGLY SO THAT THAT AREA CAN GET NATURAL LIGHT AND BE IN CONCERT WITH WHAT'S NEXT TO IT. YEAH. THE NEXT SLIDE SHOWS IT EVEN BETTER. GOTCHA THERE. THERE'S A HUGE LACK OF WINDOWS. YEAH. YOU HAVE A VERY BLANK FACE, ESPECIALLY IN THE UPPER STORY ON THIS END OF THAT BUILDING ON THOSE TWO ENDS.YEAH. WE NEED TO GET BRANDING UP THERE AS WELL. WE HAVE SOME IMAGES FROM THE SCHOOL DISTRICT THAT WE'LL BE ADDING TO THAT, SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'VE DONE WITH THE FIRE STATION. REGARDING. LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU'RE READY. REGARDING THE 1921 BUILDING, YOU'VE GOT ENOUGH MONEY TO DEMO THE TO COMPLETELY GUT THE INTERIOR OF WHAT I CALL THE MONTICELLO FORMER LIBRARY BUILDING. COULD THAT NOT BE DONE WITH THE 1921 BUILDING? I LET PAUL ANSWER THAT ONE. IT HAS HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE IN THE COMMUNITY AT THIS POINT. I GET TO JUST SAY NOTED, AND WE'RE GOING TO BRING THAT BACK TO THE DISTRICT FOR CONVERSATION. OKAY. I WILL POINT OUT THAT YOUR OLDER VOTERS ARE YOUR MOST RELIABLE VOTERS. YEAH. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. THE INTERSECTION OF WHERE THE NEW BUILDING GOES IN THE BALL FIELDS UP BY WENDY'S. 1 OR 2 MORE. YEAH. I'M SORRY.
YEAH. THANK YOU. OKAY, HERE WE GO. SO YOU'RE EXPECTING TO MEET THE WARRANTS FOR A TRAFFIC LIGHT? SORRY. ARE YOU EXPECTING TO MEET THE WARRANTS FOR A TRAFFIC LIGHT THAT'S DICTATED FROM THE CITY? YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS ARE HERE, I KNOW THAT INTERSECTION SPECIFICALLY HAS BEEN ON THE RADAR FOR THE CITY. STEPHEN, DO YOU WANT TO CHIME IN HERE AT ALL? YEAH, I THINK IT'S PART OF THE IMPROVEMENTS. I KNOW THAT CITY COUNCIL HAS ALSO BEEN LOOKING AT ADDITIONAL PARKING FOR THE POOL AS WELL. SO WE'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS ABOUT NEEDING AT LEAST MAYBE LIKE A TRAFFIC ACCESS STUDY OUT THERE. BUT SUFFICE IT TO SAY, THERE WILL BE SOME SORT OF STUDY NEEDED AT THAT INTERSECTION TO DETERMINE IF WHAT, IF ANY, IMPROVEMENTS CAN BE MADE AT THAT INTERSECTION. SO TO BE DETERMINED, I DON'T THINK WE KNOW YET, BUT IT'S CERTAINLY ON OUR RADAR AND WE'RE GOING TO STUDY THAT MORE. PROBABLY NOT A SURPRISE TO ANYONE THAT ONE GETS REALLY HAIRY IN THE MORNING. YES. OKAY. AND PARTICULARLY THE LEFT TURN MOVEMENT, PART OF ME SAYS WHAT A ROUNDABOUT, FIX THIS. AND I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT WAS DISCUSSED AS WELL. SO I THERE WE'RE WE'RE WORKING ON THE DESIGN FOR THAT. AND THAT'S OF THE TRAFFIC ITSELF AND THE INTERSECTION THAT'S PRIMARILY WITH THE CITY. OF COURSE, WE'RE THE CONTINUATION AND ADDING FUTURE USAGE OF AND DEMANDS OF THAT INTERSECTION. SO THAT'S THAT'S IN COMBINATION IN THOSE CONVERSATIONS. WE JUST HAD A MEETING A WEEK AGO FRIDAY, NOT LAST WEEK, BUT THE WEEK PRIOR WHERE THIS DIAGRAM WAS THE FIRST FIRST PRODUCED FOR THAT. AND HAVING HIGH LEVEL CONVERSATIONS OF ADDITIONAL ACCESS TO THE SITE. AND SO WHAT YOU SEE DASHED GOING BACK DOWN TO SWICKARD WOODS BOULEVARD ON THE LOWER PORTION OF THAT SLIDE WAS SUGGESTED AS, AS POTENTIAL. HERE'S MY HERE'S MY CLICKER. SO RIGHT HERE. BUT THEN WE'RE ALSO AND HAVEN'T REACHED OUT YET. BUT LOOKING AT WHAT IS WHAT'S OTHER ACCESS HERE IN THE NORTHERN WEST PORTION OF THE SITE WHERE IT CONNECTS TO THE WENDY'S TIM HORTONS AREA, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT OPPORTUNITIES TRULY LIE THERE, BUT WE ARE REACHING OUT TO THOSE NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES IN THE
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COMING DAYS TO HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS. OKAY, SO THAT INTERSECTION IS INSIDE THE 20 MILE AN HOUR ZONE. AS I RECALL, THE IF YOU'RE GOING TOWARDS WENDY'S FROM THE CENTER OF THE VILLAGE, YOU CROSS THIS INTERSECTION. THEN THE SPEED CHANGES JUST PASSED.OPERATIONALLY, YOU ALREADY HAVE A DIFFICULTY AND IT MAY NOT BE OBVIOUS. THE TRAFFIC LIGHT SCREWS PEOPLE'S BRAINS UP WHEN THEY THEY GO 20 MILES AN HOUR FROM DUBLIN-GRANVILLE. THEY STOP AT THE LIGHT, AND THEN THEY FLIP IT UP TO 35 MILES AN HOUR BECAUSE THEY'VE PASSED THE ONLY 20 MILE AN HOUR SIGN THEY'RE GOING TO SEE. AND WHEN THEY STOP AT THE LIGHT, THEY RESET THEIR BRAIN. THIS IS A 35 MILE AN HOUR ROAD. MOST OF THE TIME I DRIVE IT OKAY. I WAS DOING 20 BEFORE I HIT THE LIGHT. I STOPPED AT THE LIGHT. AND THEN YOU GET THIS LEMON. WE'RE ALL DOING 35. WE COULD HARVEST A LOT OF TICKETS THERE IF WE WANTED TO. COULD A SECOND SIGN REINFORCING THAT ONCE YOU PASS THAT LIGHT NOW INTO THE HIGH SCHOOL COMPLEX, YOU'RE STILL AT 20 MILES AN HOUR, AT LEAST FOR THE LONGER CALL THE NORTHBOUND MOVEMENT. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE A SIMILAR ISSUE. THE OTHER WAY IS NOT SO BAD BECAUSE YOU'RE HEADED FOR THE INTERSECTION AND AWAY FROM THE SCHOOL, AND YOU'RE ACCELERATING PAST THE MOST DANGEROUS INTERSECTION THERE.
BUT GOING TOWARDS THE LOWER GRADES FROM THE HIGH SCHOOL COMPLEX, EVERYBODY FORGETS THEY'RE IN A 20 MILE AN HOUR ZONE. YEAH. AND WHILE I'M ON THERE, YOUR 20 MILE AN HOUR SIGN NEEDS TO HAVE A DAY LIGHT A DAY NIGHT SETTING. IF YOU'RE LOOKING TO TOTALLY LOSE YOUR NIGHT VISION, DRIVE PAST THE SCHOOL DISTRICT NOW AND IT'LL SAY 35 VISIBLE IN THE DAYLIGHT EVEN THOUGH IT'S PITCH BLACK OUT. THAT WAS MY LIST. OTHERS FROM THE COMMISSION. JUST A LITTLE OFF TOPIC, AND MAYBE A QUESTION FOR JILL. HAS THERE BEEN ANY MORE DISCUSSION WITH THE FUTURE OF THE POOL LOOKS LIKE I KNOW NOT AT THIS TIME. SO IF YOU COULD COME TO THE MIC, ALL SPEAKERS PLEASE COME TO THE MIC. I'M JILL HILL WITH THE TOWNSHIP, SO NO, NO DISCUSSION RIGHT NOW AT THE POOL. SO AT THIS POINT YOU'RE STILL OFFERING MEMBERSHIPS AND RUNNING IT. JUST JUST BUSINESS AS USUAL. BUSINESS AS USUAL? ABSOLUTELY. AND AM I CORRECT THERE WERE SOME UPGRADES THAT NEEDED TO BE MADE AT SOME POINT? YES. WE'RE CURRENTLY MAKING AN UPGRADE TO THE SLIDE TOWER, SO WE'RE IN ENGINEERING PHASE RIGHT NOW THAT IT'S IN PROCESS THROUGH THE PERMITTING PIECE RIGHT NOW. GOTCHA. THANK YOU. SURE, SIR. YEAH, I HAVE A GENERAL QUESTION THAT MAY BE BEST FOR JILL AND OR THE REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE SCHOOL DISTRICT VERSUS THE ARCHITECT.
CAN YOU SOMEBODY REMIND ME KIND OF HOW WE'VE GOTTEN TO THE POINT WHERE WE ARE TONIGHT REGARDING THIS COMBINED FACILITY? SO THE TRANSPORTATION FACILITY AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT FACILITY. SURE.
COME JOIN ME. SO WHEN WE HAD DISCUSSIONS BACK IN MAY FOR A LEVY FOR OPERATIONAL AND OUR STRATEGIC PLAN OF 2024, THE BIG PIECE OF IT THAT WAS APPROVED WAS HOW DO WE PREPARE FOR GROWTH? HOW DO WE WORK OUR RUN TIMES? AND OBVIOUSLY TO CHIEF CONNORS WOULD COME UP AND ANSWER SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS, TOO, AS HE'S RUNNING THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THE DEMAND FOR RUNS ON OUR NORTHERN BORDER WITH THE TRAFFICS. SO IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE GET TO OUR RESIDENTS, WE PROTECT OUR HOMES, WE SAVE LIVES. IT'S OUR NUMBER ONE MISSION. SO THAT WAS REALLY HOW WE GOT THERE. AND THEN IT WAS IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE SCHOOL DEPARTMENT ALSO NEEDING TRANSPORTATION. AND WHERE DOES THAT LIE? WHERE IS THE LAND DEVELOPMENT AVAILABLE FOR THAT? SO IT WAS KIND OF JUST A MASTERMIND PROCESS OF COLLABORATION WITH THE SCHOOLS IN MEETING BOTH OF OUR NEEDS ON ONE SITE. AND THIS IS WHERE WE ARE TODAY. AND WHO OWNS THE LAND RIGHT NOW, IS IT? AND ALSO, AARON MAY BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO THIS BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT I ASKED HANS DURING THE PRESENTATION. IS THIS THE SITE? IT'S TO THE SOUTH OF? I'M SORRY, IT'S TO THE EAST OF THE CORNERSTONE ACADEMY, WHERE AT ONE POINT THERE WAS DISCUSSION ABOUT PUTTING SOCCER FIELDS ON THIS SITE. IS THAT CORRECT? AARON UNDERHILL HERE. YEAH, YES.
THERE WERE THERE WAS SOME THOUGHT OF THAT. WE ACTUALLY HAD ZONED THAT SITE FOR CORNERSTONE.
AND THEN ABOUT TWO YEARS LATER, ISH, WE WENT AND REZONED IT BACK TO AN LGA DESIGNATION BECAUSE CORNERSTONE DECIDED THEY LIKED WHERE THEY WERE SORT OF TEMPORARILY. AND SO WHEN THIS COMES BACK THROUGH, I GUESS THERE'LL BE A THIRD TIME IN 3 OR 4 YEARS YOU'LL SEE IT. BUT YES, THAT WAS A FORM THAT YOUR YOUR RECOLLECTION IS CORRECT. OKAY. DID YOU HAVE ANY. SORRY. THE CORNERSTONE IS DOING SOCCER FIELDS. THAT'S THROUGH PERMITTING AND THE ENGINEERING PHASE. SO THEY ARE DEVELOPING ON THAT OTHER SITE. YEAH. ON THE OTHER SIDE. OKAY. DID WE HEAR WHO OWNS THIS PARCEL? HELLO. THANK YOU. LORI LOFTON ASSISTANT SUPERINTENDENT FOR TEACHING AND
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LEARNING AND NEW ALBANY-PLAIN LOCAL SCHOOLS. TO THE QUESTION OF WHO OWNS THE PROPERTY. SO THE PROPERTY WAS DONATED TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT BY NACO. AND IT WAS REALLY, AS JILL DESCRIBED, THE PARTNERSHIP WHEN WE FIRST STARTED TALKING ABOUT EXPECTED GROWTH, OUR TRANSPORTATION CENTER WAS FIRST ON OUR LIST, VERY TOP PRIORITY. WHETHER THE BOND PASSED OR NOT, IT'S BEEN VERY DIFFICULT FOR THE PAST YEAR TO TWO YEARS FOR BUSSES TO GET OUT ONTO JOHNSTOWN ROAD, TURNING LEFT INTO THAT TRAFFIC THAT HAS AS THAT AREA HAS EXPLODED. AND SO WE KNEW WE NEEDED A NUMBER ONE EXPANSION OF THE OF A LARGER TRANSPORTATION CENTER TO HOUSE THE NUMBER OF BUS DRIVERS AND BUSSES THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE, BUT ALSO MORE EFFICIENT AND EFFECTIVE DELIVERY OF SERVICES.AND SO WE STARTED TO PARTNER WITH THE CITY AND NACO ON ALL OF THE PROJECTIONS FOR GROWTH. AND SO THAT WAS HAD BEEN A TOPIC OF CONVERSATION THAT OUR SUPERINTENDENT, MICHAEL SAWYERS, HAD BEEN HAVING WITH JOE STEFANOFF AND OTHER PARTNERS THAT THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, A VERY FIRST PRIORITY TO FIND A NEW LOCATION FOR A BUS GARAGE, A TRANSPORTATION CENTER. AND IT JUST REALLY TIMING WAS PERFECT FOR US TO HAVE THIS JOINT OPPORTUNITY WITH FIRE TO SAVE TAX DOLLARS AND SAVE COSTS FOR BOTH OF OUR ENTITIES AS WELL. THANK YOU. VERY HELPFUL. AND I JUST HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION. COULD SOMEBODY GO BACK TO LIKE THE THIS SAME PICTURE BUT FOR THE TRANSPORTATION AND FIRE FACILITY PLEASE. THAT'S PERFECT. SO ON THE NORTHERN EDGE OF THIS PROPERTY, WHICH IS YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE ON THIS MAP, AND I'M LOOKING FOR MAYBE STEVE, TO KEEP ME HONEST HERE, THERE IS A I BELIEVE PRIVATE ROAD WHICH LEADS TO A MACRO CELL TOWER IS THAT IS I'M LOOKING FOR CONFIRMATION THAT IT IS A PRIVATE ROAD. YEAH. I BELIEVE THE SCHLEPPI ROAD PORTION HAS BEEN VACATED. SO IT DOES SERVE AS A PRIVATE DRIVE. SO THAT CELL SERVICE, THE LAND IMMEDIATELY NORTH OF THAT ROAD IS CURRENTLY UNDEVELOPED AND IS ZONED FOR COMMERCIAL USES. SO IT'S BEEN ENVISIONED THAT THAT DRIVEWAY WOULD ONE DAY SERVE A FUTURE SHOPPING CENTERS WITH LIKE COFFEE SHOPS AND THINGS LIKE THAT AS AN AMENITY SPACE. OKAY.
AND SO WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR CONFIRMATION OF WHO OWNS LIKE AS OF THIS MOMENT, WHO OWNS AND HAS RESPONSIBILITY FOR THAT ROAD. I BELIEVE RIGHT NOW IT'S PRIVATELY OWNED BY THE NEW ALBANY COMPANY.
YEAH. OKAY. AND IT APPEARS FROM THIS PLAN THAT THAT ROAD WOULD BE UTILIZED FOR. IS IT LIKE EMPLOYEES THAT WOULD COME IN AND OUT OF THE TRANSPORTATION FACILITY? OKAY. IT'S A PRIMARY ACCESS POINT, IN FACT. OKAY. YES. SO AS WE MOVE THROUGH THIS PROCESS, THEN, STEVE, WOULD THE CITY RECOMMEND, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY REMOVING THAT AS A PRIVATE ROAD AND MAKING IT A CITY ROAD, OR HOW WOULD THAT PROCESS WORK? OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS ARE KIND OF DISCUSSING, DISCUSSING AND FIGURING OUT? YEAH. SO WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING IT. THE FIRST THING WE TALKED ABOUT TRAFFIC STUDIES BEFORE FOR THE SCHOOL SITE. WE'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH THIS TEAM THAT WE NEED TO DO A TRAFFIC STUDY BASED ON THE DISTANCES OF THESE TWO CURB CUTS ALONG NEW ALBANY CONDIT ROAD. SO AT NEW ALBANY ROAD EAST AND 605, THAT'S A LARGE INTERSECTION WITH LOTS OF TURN LANES. SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CURB CUTS ARE FUNCTIONING PROPERLY AND THAT IT WON'T CAUSE ANY BACKUPS JUST BECAUSE WE WANT TO STUDY TO SEE IF THERE'S GOING TO BE ANY TURN LANES NEEDED TO BE ADDED TO 605. SO THE FIRST THING THAT WE WANT TO STUDY WITH THIS GROUP IS JUST, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THE IMPACTS TO THE ROADWAY THROUGH THAT TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY. AND THEN I THINK THAT WILL KIND OF HELP THE REST OF THE CONVERSATION AS WE MOVE FORWARD AND STUDY THE LAYOUT OF THE SITE. OKAY. THANK YOU. YEAH. AND EASEMENTS AND SUCH WOULD BE A SERIOUS MATTER WHEN WE START DEALING WITH THE REZONING AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT THAT EASEMENT, IF IT'S KEPT AS A PRIVATE ROAD, WE NEED THE EASEMENTS. AND MANY OF US ARE NOT FOND OF PRIVATE ROADS. YEAH. AND SO I THINK WHAT'S HAPPENED WITH OTHER SITES WHERE THERE'S SHARED DRIVES IS THAT THERE'S A CROSS ACCESS EASEMENT THAT ALLOWS THAT IN THIS CASE, ALLOW FOR ALL OF THOSE USERS TO USE THAT OLD SCHLEPPI ROAD THAT'S NOW SERVING AS A PRIVATE DRIVE, ALONG WITH THOSE FUTURE USERS TO THE NORTH. SO EVERYBODY SO IT WOULD SORT OF FUNCTION AS A SHARED DRIVEWAY, I THINK IS WHAT MR. KIRBY IS SAYING. YEAH. AND IT'S NOT JUST A DRIVEWAY. IT'S, YOU KNOW, ROAD. IT'S YOU KNOW WHAT? I DON'T KNOW WHAT GRADE I WANT TO SAY. IT'S EFFECTIVELY A ROAD, OR AT LEAST IT'S TO THAT QUALITY BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, 20 TON FIRE TRUCKS. AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH A SCHOOL BUS WEIGHS, YOU KNOW, GOING OVER THERE ALL THE TIME. AND SO WHO MAINTAINS IT IS AN ISSUE? BECAUSE IF IT'S A BLACKTOP DRIVEWAY AIN'T GOING TO LAST LONG. AND SO THOSE ALL NEED TO GET WORKED OUT PRIOR TO PULLING THE TRIGGER ON USING THAT,
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COMMITTING TO THAT. AND WHEN IT WAS DESIGNED, I'M ASSUMING IT WAS DESIGNED FOR THE MAXIMUM SPACE, THOUGH BOTH ENTITIES WILL EVER NEED. THERE'S NO EXPANSION. YEAH, THERE'S NOT KNOWN OR ANTICIPATED EXPANSION OF THIS FACILITY AS WE'RE DEVELOPING IT TODAY. YEAH. I TAKE IT YOUR STUDIES MAY HAVE SHOWN THAT IF IT IF THE SERVICES NEEDED TO BE BIGGER, IN PARTICULAR IN THE CASE OF FIRE, THAT IT'S NOT SO MUCH THAT I NEED MORE THINGS HERE. IT'LL BE I'LL NEED MORE THINGS SOMEWHERE ELSE TO BE CLOSER TO WHERE THE GROWTH IS. CORRECT. YEAH. SO THAT THIS PROVIDES THE NORTH AND THE WEST AND ACCESS AND IF I HAD TO THROW A DART AT THE DART BOARD SOMEWHERE IN THE FAR EAST OF NEW ALBANY IS WHERE THE NEXT ONE MIGHT GO. IF WE'RE SERVICING THE BUSINESS PARK, IF THAT HAS LOTS OF RUNS, FOR EXAMPLE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FUTURE HOLDS, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY RUNS THEY GET COMPARED TO RESIDENCES. THEY'VE. QUESTION, SO WHAT'S THE SPEED LIMIT THERE, STEVE? 50. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. IT'S 50 OR 55 ONE. IT KICKS DOWN FROM 55 TO 50 AT WALNUT. AT WALNUT. YEAH. DRIVE THERE ALL THE TIME. SO IS THERE ANY ANTICIPATION THAT SPEED LIMIT CAN BE LOWERED? I KNOW IT'S A STATE ROUTE. SO THERE'S ALL THOSE OBSTACLES THAT NEED TO BE SURMOUNTED. BUT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE BUSSES PULLING OUT ON THE ROADWAY WITH CARS GOING 50 TO 60 MILES AN HOUR. SEEMS PROBLEMATIC TO ME. POTENTIALLY. NEW ALBANY ROAD EAST HAS A 30. THERE'S A LIGHT, THERE'S A LIGHT ON. THERE'S A LIGHT THERE AT NEW ALBANY. THE SOUTHERN ACCESS FOR THE BUSSES. 805 YEAH. AND I THINK THE TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY THAT WILL BE COMPLETED WILL ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS. AND TO THAT POINT, WE JUST STARTED COLLECTING DATA LAST WEEK OR TWO WEEKS AGO LAST WEEK FOR THAT TRAFFIC STUDY. SO THAT THAT'S INITIATED AT THIS TIME. ONE OTHER COMMENT AS I GET THIS, THE BUSSES ARE GOING TO BE PARKED IN THAT SOUTHERN PORTION RIGHT OVERNIGHT. THAT'S WHERE THEY'LL BE. I THINK SOME TREMENDOUS THOUGHT TO SCREENING WOULD BE IMPORTANT THERE. SO THAT THAT BECAUSE THEY'RE REALLY VISIBLE AS YOU GO UP JOHNSTOWN ROAD. BUT I'M NOT SURE THAT'S NECESSARILY THE INTRODUCTION TO THE CITY THAT WE NECESSARILY WANT TO SEE. AND LIKEWISE THE TRAILS AND SUCH IN THE RIGHT OF WAY. YEAH. IS THERE FENCING AROUND THE CURRENT TRANSPORTATION FACILITY? YES, YES. AND THE PRIVATE ROAD TO THE NORTH, SINCE IT'S ON, IT'S ON A DIFFERENT PROPERTY. RIGHT. SO WE NEED TO ADDRESS THE FACT THAT THAT'LL STAY IN PLACE OVER TIME. RIGHT. SINCE IT'S A DIFFERENT PROPERTY OWNER. YES. AND IT'LL BE A LITTLE TRICKY WHEN WE GET TO LIKE SIGNAGE AND STUFF LIKE THAT AS WE HAVE MULTIPLE PARCELS. AND WE'LL NEED TO WORK THROUGH THOSE DETAILS, YOU KNOW, OF HOW THAT ALL MANIFESTS ITSELF ALSO TO ALL THIS CONVERSATION ABOUT WHO OWNS AND MAINTAINS. THAT'S THAT'S A PART OF OUR DISCUSSIONS. OBVIOUSLY, WE HAVE MULTIPLE MULTIPLE ENTITIES INVESTED HERE BETWEEN SCHOOLS, FIRE AND NACO THAT COULD HAVE AN INTEREST IN THAT IN THAT ROAD. SO HOW WE CARVE THAT UP, WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THOSE KIND OF DETAILS, RIGHT. TWO WAY TRAFFIC, I ASSUME. YES. OKAY. AND THE FIRE. YEAH. WHAT I SAW IT EARLIER, IT SAID IT WAS A FOR HEALTH EMERGENCIES. WOULD IT BE LIMITED TO HEALTH EMERGENCIES OR TO FIRE RESPONSES AS WELL FOR BOTH OF THOSE IN THE EMERGENCY FOR FIRE ALARMS. YES OKAY. THANKS TO NACO FOR DONATING THE LAND. YEAH. OTHER QUESTIONS I'M GOOD. THANK YOU. ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.THANK YOU, THANK YOU. VERY INFORMATIVE. TAKES US TO OUR REGULAR CASES. SO ZONING CHANGE
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100 OF 2024. WELL. CAN WE HEAR FROM STAFF. WE HEARD 100 CASES. IT'S 100 CASES MOST. ALL RIGHT.SO THE REQUEST IS FOR A REZONING OF 28.10 ACRES ON WORTHINGTON AND LUCILLE LIND ROAD. THE REQUEST PROPOSES TO CREATE A NEW ZONING DISTRICT TO BE KNOWN AS BEECH INTERCHANGE SOUTHEAST ZONING DISTRICT, BY ZONING THE AREA TO A INFILL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT FROM AN OFFICE CAMPUS, DISTRICT, SO THE PROPERTIES ARE LOCATED ON WORTHINGTON ROAD AND LUCILLE ROAD, AND HAVING 161 TO THE NORTH, AND IT IS IN WIDTH. IT IS WITHIN THE BUSINESS PARK. THE
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PROPERTIES CURRENTLY OUTLINED IN RED ARE ZONED OCD OFFICE CAMPUS DISTRICT AND ARE GOING TO BE REZONED AS PART OF THIS APPLICATION. ALL OF THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES ARE ZONED FOR COMMERCIAL USE. THE PROPERTY WEST OF BEECH ROAD IS AN IPOD AND THE SOUTHERN PROPERTIES ARE LIMITED. GENERAL EMPLOYMENT. THE PROPERTIES WOULD BE REZONED TO AN IPOD INFILL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT NAMED BEECH INTERCHANGE SOUTHEAST ZONING DISTRICT, TO ALLOW FOR A VARIETY OF RETAIL AND COMMERCIAL USE, MUCH LIKE THE BEECH INTERCHANGE SOUTHWEST ZONING DISTRICT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF BEECH ROAD. THE USE AND DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS IN THIS PUD MATCH THOSE FROM ACROSS THE STREET, AND THE AREA WOULD BE SPLIT INTO TWO SUB AREAS, A AND B, AS SHOWN ON THIS MAP. SO FOR SUB AREA A IT WOULD BE ABOUT 7.13 ACRES, AND IT'S PERMITTED USE WOULD BE A C3. THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR A VARIETY OF RETAIL AND PERSONAL SERVICE USES THAT INCLUDE GASOLINE AND DIESEL FUELING STATIONS WITH OR WITHOUT CONVENIENCE STORES, VEHICLE CHARGING STATIONS AND RESTAURANTS, AND BANKS WITH DRIVE THRUS. C3 DOES C3 USES DO REQUIRE TO COME BACK TO PLANNING COMMISSION FOR REVIEW OF A FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN, AND THEN FOR SUB AREA B IT ALSO OR SORRY SUB AREA B IS 20.97 ACRES. IT IS ALSO PERMITTED FOR C3 USES IN ADDITION TO GENERAL EMPLOYMENT.DISTRICT USES. PERMITTED USES FOR THE GE WOULD HAVE OFFICE DATA CENTER DATA, DATA CENTERS, MANUFACTURING AND PRODUCTION, WAREHOUSE AND DISTRIBUTION, RESEARCH AND PRODUCTION. LIKE THE REST OF THE BUSINESS, PARK, C3 REQUIRES AGAIN TO COME BACK IN FRONT OF YOU FOR THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN, BUT THE GE USES ARE REVIEWED ADMINISTRATIVELY BY CITY STAFF.
SO THE ZONING DISTRICT PERMITS THE DEVELOPMENT OF PERSONAL SERVICES, RETAIL, RESTAURANTS AND GASOLINE STATIONS. USES TO SERVE USES TO SERVE NEW ALBANY INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, AS WELL AS OTHER TRAVEL. OTHERS TRAVELING ALONG STATE ROUTE 161. THE PROPOSED REZONING USES MATCH THE SAME LIST OF HER PERMITTED, CONDITIONAL, AND PROHIBITED C3 AND LG E USES ON OTHER SIMILAR ZONING DISTRICTS, SUCH AS BEECH INTERCHANGE SOUTHWEST ZONING DISTRICT ACROSS THE STREET MAKE INTERCHANGE DISTRICT AND BEECH CROSSING DISTRICT, AND OVERALL, THE PROPOSED ZONING TEXT IS THE SAME AS THE BEECH INTERCHANGE SOUTHWEST ZONING DISTRICT WHEN IT COMES TO USES. ROOFTOP SCREENING REQUIREMENTS, SETBACKS, ARCHITECTURAL STYLES, BUILDING HEIGHT, AND LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS. THE REZONING WOULD BRING THE AREA INTO CONFORMANCE WITH THE STRATEGIC PLAN, ALLOWING FOR A TRANSITION BETWEEN THE MIXED USE AND EMPLOYMENT DISTRICTS WE HAVE SET UP. BY KEEPING THE UNDERLYING COMMERCIAL USE, AND NOW FOR THE FOLLOWING RETAIL USES. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M HERE. ANY ENGINEERING? OKAY. I'M HERE FOR THE APPLICANT. ARE EVERYONE HERE? NUMBER 8000 WALTON PARKWAY IN NEW ALBANY. THERE WE GO. OKAY. THANK YOU, KYLIE, FOR THE INTRODUCTION OF THE PROJECT. THIS IS REALLY A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT, YOU KNOW, THE ZONING. WE ALL KNOW PEOPLE AREN'T DEVELOPING JUST PURELY OFFICE USES VERY OFTEN ANYMORE.
AND SO WE SEE THIS PIECE AND AS WE SORT OF SEE THE BUSINESS PARK BUILD OUT THERE ARE WE'RE FINDING THAT WE NEED TO REPOSITION AS MANY SITES AS WE CAN THAT DON'T HAVE A ZONING THAT REALLY MEETS THE CURRENT MARKET DEMANDS. AND THIS THIS IS ONE OF THEM. I THINK BEING IN A TRANSITIONAL AREA HERE, IT'S CLEAR THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A NEED FOR SOME RETAIL AND SERVICE TYPE USES TO SERVE EMPLOYEES IN THE AREA. AND JUST THE 161 TRAFFIC THAT CONTINUES TO GROW.
BUT WE ALSO SEE AN OPPORTUNITY HERE TO MAYBE HAVE A SITE FOR AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECT.
AND SO THUS THE FLEXIBILITY WE'VE TRIED TO BUILD INTO THIS ONE. KYLIE MENTIONED A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT DISTRICTS, AT LEAST MAYBE THREE, THAT WHERE WE'VE DONE THIS BEFORE, WE HAVE A HYBRID WHERE LG SORTS OF USES ARE ALLOWED, AS WE WOULD TYPICALLY IN THE BUSINESS PARK, BUT WE ALSO HAVE THE RETAIL LAYERED IN THERE AS WELL. SO IT'S AN EITHER OR IN ORDER TO STAY COMPETITIVE IN THE MARKETPLACE AND WITH OUR SHOVEL READY SITES THAT WE'VE BEEN SO SUCCESSFUL WITH, NOT HAVING THAT SECONDARY REVIEW FOR THOSE MORE MAJOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS PUTS IT ON EVEN FOOTING WITH OTHER SITES. AND SO WE HAVE A HYBRID PROCESS HERE WHERE THOSE GE TYPE USES WILL GO THROUGH THE TYPICAL STAFF REVIEW PROCESS, WHILE THE RETAIL TYPE USES WOULD COME BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AS THEY WOULD TYPICALLY. SO I WANTED TO
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ALSO POINT OUT THAT WE MAY BE ADDING, I DON'T KNOW, KYLIE, IF YOU COULD SHOW THAT OCD MAP THERE JUST TO THE IF YOU SEE THE OCD THAT REMAINS ON THE NORTH OF IRELAND ROAD THERE, WE HAVE A SITE ALSO TO THE EAST OF THAT THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE ANNEXING AND PROBABLY BRINGING THIS NORTHERN PART, SOME OF THIS PROPERTY TO THE NORTH OF LUCILLE LIND ROAD, INTO A SIMILAR ZONING AS THIS. ONE OF THE REASONS WE COULDN'T DO THAT RIGHT NOW IS BECAUSE THE CITY AND JERSEY TOWNSHIP NEED TO EXECUTE A NEW ANNEXATION AGREEMENT THAT WE LIKE TO DO THE TYPE ONE ANNEXATIONS IN THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY, AND COOPERATION WITH THE TOWNSHIPS FROM WHICH WE'RE ANNEXING, FOR SOME REASON, THE EXISTING ANNEXATION AGREEMENTS DID NOT COVER THESE PROPERTIES.AND SO WE ARE. MR. STEPANOV IS IN THE PROCESS OF WORKING THAT OUT WITH THE TOWNSHIP AND BRINGING THAT TO CITY COUNCIL. SO I WOULD EXPECT IN THE COMING MONTHS, ONCE WE GET THAT ANNEXATION UNDERWAY, YOU MAY SEE AN ADDITION TO THE ZONING DISTRICT AS A RESULT. WITH THAT, BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. COMMISSIONER. SO WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SUBAREA A AND B? HOW DO YOU GET TO THAT SEPARATION? IT'S BASICALLY SEPARATED BY THE MIDDLE OF THAT. THERE'S A TRANSMISSION TRANSMISSION LINE EASEMENT I THINK IT'S 150FT IN WIDTH. IF YOU COULD SHOW THAT THAT WAS SORT OF THE POINT OF DEMARCATION, WHERE WE THINK RETAIL ARE THE ONLY USES TO THE WEST OF THAT, THAT ARE REALLY MAKE ANY SENSE HERE. AND SO THAT'S APPROXIMATELY A THIRD OF THE SITE. AND THE EASTERN TWO THIRDS WOULD BE THE EITHER OR WHERE YOU COULD HAVE THE GE TYPE USES OR THE RETAIL I GUESS. SORRY ABOUT THAT. THE EASEMENTS KIND OF THE DETERMINING. THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. THAT MAKES SENSE. AND THEN IN THE TEXT IT TALKS ABOUT THE ELEVATION WOULD BE DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THE SAME LEVEL IF IT'S NOT FACING A PUBLIC STREET. AND MOST OF THESE WOULD BE PRIVATE STREETS WITHIN HERE. RIGHT. SO THAT MEANS THE BUILDINGS AREN'T NECESSARILY GOING TO BE COHESIVE ALL THE WAY AROUND. WELL, I THINK THE INTENT REALLY IS NOT NOT TO MEASURE THAT FROM AN ADJACENCY NECESSARILY, BUT IF IT'S VISIBLE FROM ANY, ANY PUBLIC STREET. SO I THINK THE ONLY SITUATION WHERE YOU MAY NOT HAVE THAT HAPPEN WOULD BE IF, IF WE HAVE SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, MAYBE BUILDINGS BACK TO BACK OR SOMETHING WHERE THEY AREN'T VISIBLE FROM OFFSITE. I DON'T REALLY ANTICIPATE THAT HAPPENING HERE BECAUSE OF THE LITANY OF STREETS WE HAVE. SO I WOULD EXPECT EVERYTHING TO BE FOUR SIDED. OKAY. IS THE HIGHWAY, IS THAT RIGHT? SO CORRECT. IS THAT CONSIDERED A PUBLIC. YES. YES.
SO MOST OF IT WOULD BE THIS. OKAY. THAT MAKES SENSE. THE OTHER THING I'LL POINT OUT IS WITH LUCILLE AND ROAD STEVE, YOU COULD WEIGH IN ON THIS TOO. YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT SURE ULTIMATELY WHAT THAT WILL END UP BEING IN TERMS OF WHETHER THAT WILL NEED TO BE INTEGRATED INTO THE SITE.
ONCE WE TAKE CARE OF WHAT'S TO THE NORTH OF LUCILLE. AND MAYBE THAT GETS SHORTENED, DEPENDING ON WHAT THE END USERS END UP BEING HERE. BUT WE COULD FORESEE A SCENARIO WHERE POSSIBLY LUCILLE END IS A CUL DE SAC JUST TO THE WEST OF THAT SELF STORAGE. PROJECT RIGHT THERE.
THAT IS PROBABLY GOING TO REMAIN THERE FOR A WHILE, BUT THAT WOULD OBVIOUSLY BE PART OF A PLANNING PROCESS THAT YOU ARE A PART VACATION PROCESS THAT YOU WOULD SEE AND BUT WANTED TO PUT THAT ON YOUR RADAR AS WELL, THAT THAT'S A TO BE DETERMINED. OKAY. THIS IS FOR STAFF PARTLY SO THE ZONING ACROSS THE STREET HAS BEEN AROUND FOR YEARS. THERE'S SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I DON'T MEAN I DON'T EXACTLY YEAH. IT'S BEEN ON THE GROUND FOR A WHILE AT LEAST. YEAH. I THINK THAT WA.
SO THAT WAS ALSO A REZONE JUST LIKE THIS. IT HAD A COMMERCIAL ZONING DESIGNATION AND THEN WAS REZONED TO IPD, I THINK, IN 2023 TO ALLOW THE SAME MIXTURE HYBRID. AS MR. UNDERHILL SAID OF C3 AND LG, E USES OKAY AS A GENERAL GUIDELINE. IT IS GOOD TO HAVE UNIFORMITY, LIKE ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET. BUT ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT THE VILLAGE TO DO IS LET'S NOT FIX THINGS OR I'M SORRY, LET'S NOT HAVE THINGS STACKED. IF THERE ARE SHORTCOMINGS WE FOUND IN A ZONE OR IN THE ZONING TEXT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, LET'S NOT REPEAT THEM. AND SO THIS IS OUR SHOT AT SAYING WOULD WE, IF WE WANTED TO REDO THE STUFF ACROSS THE STREET, WHAT WOULD WE CHANGE NOW THAT WE'VE BEEN HAD IT ON THE GROUND FOR A WHILE? AND WHAT MISTAKES DO WE NOT WANT TO REPEAT ON THIS SIDE OF THE STREET? YEAH, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. WE ASKED HER THE SAME QUESTION. ACTUALLY. I THINK WE'RE I THINK WHAT WE ESTABLISHED IN 2023, WE, YOU KNOW, SAME STANDARDS THAT WE HAVE TODAY AS FAR AS LIKE ARCHITECTURE AND LANDSCAPING. YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE NEWER THINGS WE DO IS WE DON'T HAVE BUILDING HEIGHT
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RESTRICTIONS FOR LARGE USES ANYMORE. BUT WE HAVE BUT WE DO HAVE IT FOR RETAIL. AND ACTUALLY THE ZONING THAT'S HERE. NOW THAT OCD, THAT ACTUALLY WAS ONE OF THE ORIGINAL BUSINESS PARK REZONINGS FROM 2008. SO ACTUALLY THIS WHAT'S THERE TODAY DOES NOT HAVE MANY OF OUR USUAL LIKE TYPICAL THINGS WE SEE. SO IT'S NOW IT'S MISSING ROOFTOP SCREENING. IT'S MISSING A LOT OF LANDSCAPING. SO ACTUALLY BY DOING THIS WE ARE BRINGING IT UP TO DATE WITH OUR, I WOULD SAY, MORE MODERN AND TYPICAL ZONING REQUIREMENTS AND STANDARDS. SO WE'VE GOT THINGS LIKE. ROOFTOP SCREENING INCLUDES SOUND FOR EXAMPLE. YES, SIGHT AND SOUND FOR SIDE. OKAY. GOOD. I WAS RUSHED WHEN I WENT THROUGH AND REALIZED I MISSED ONE OF MY FAVORITES. DO WE HAVE DOWNCASTING LIGHTING IN HERE? I BELIEVE, SO I'LL DOUBLE CHECK THAT ONE AT THE END OF THE NEXT ONE. YEAH, I'M PRETTY SURE THAT WE'VE GOTTEN THAT ALREADY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.YEAH, IT'S H1, WHICH IS ON PAGE 14. ALL PARKING LOT AND PRIVATE DRIVEWAY LIGHTING SHALL BE CUT OFF. TYPE FIXTURES WITH DOWNCAST. THANK YOU. AND UP LIGHTING THE BUILDINGS IS THERE WE GO. YEAH. GOOD. SO WE'RE KEEPING THE GOOD IDEAS TO. OTHER QUESTIONS. ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC NOT SEEING ANY THE PUBLIC AT ALL. PUBLIC IS NO PUBLIC. I WAS HERE FOR THIS. I MOVED TO ACCEPT THE STAFF REPORTS AND RELATED DOCUMENTS IN THE RECORDS FOR ZONING CHANGE 100 2024. DO I HEAR A SECOND ON THE DOCUMENTS MOTION? I'LL SECOND IT. AND DISCUSSION OF DOCUMENTS MOTION.
CARE TO THE ROLL, PLEASE, MR. KIRBY? YES. MR. LARSON? YES, MR. SHELL? YES, MISS. BRIGGS. YES, MR. WALLACE? YES. MOTION PASSES WITH ALL VOTES TO ACCEPT THE DOCUMENTS, THOUGH YOUR MOTION FOR THE ZONING ITSELF. I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE APPLICATION ZC 120 24. BASED ON THE FINDINGS IN THE STAFF REPORT. I THINK WE DIDN'T. I BELIEVE WE HAVEN'T CONDITION. I DON'T THINK SO. SARAH, DO I HEAR A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. AND DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION ON THE REZONING. THE ROLL PLEASE, MR. SHELL. YES, MISS BRIGGS? YES, MR. LARSON? YES, MR. KIRBY? YES, MR. WALLACE? YES. MOTION PASSES WITH ALL VOTES TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION. GOOD LUCK. THANKS, ERIC. GLAD I WASN'T THE ONLY ONE
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WHO BROUGHT YOU OUT IN THE COLD. TONIGHT BRINGS US TO THE CITY CODE AMENDMENT CONDITIONAL USES.CAN WE HEAR FROM STAFF? ALL RIGHT, SO THIS IS FOR CITY CODE AMENDMENT 1115 CONDITIONAL USES.
THIS WAS BROUGHT IN FRONT OF YOU LAST PC MEETING AS WELL. SO THE STAFF RECOGNIZES THERE IS A DISCREPANCY IN THE EXPIRATION DATES AND ACTIONS THAT MUST BE MET TO ESTABLISH APPROVALS FOR FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLANS AND CONDITIONAL USE APPLICATIONS. AND WHEN WE PRESENTED IT LAST TIME, WE ALSO REALIZED THAT THERE NEEDED TO BE SOME UPDATING TO THE RAMIFICATIONS OF THIS AS WELL. SO AS OF RIGHT NOW, CONDITIONAL USE IS FOR ONE YEAR. IF SUCH USE IS NOT CARRIED OUT AND THEN THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN DURATION IS WITHIN TWO YEARS OF CONSTRUCTION HAS NOT BEGUN. IN THE REVOCATION WAS KIND OF JUST MORE OF THE PERMITTED UPON WRITTEN EVIDENCE, BUT THERE WASN'T A LOT OF DUE PROCESS WRITTEN INTO THE CODE. SO NOW, LOOKING AT THE CHANGES THAT WE WERE PROPOSING, WE WANT TO CHANGE IT FOR THE CONDITIONAL USE DURATION FOR ONE YEAR FOR OCCUPANCY PERMITS OR TWO YEARS FOR CONSTRUCTION. IF CONSTRUCTION OR RENOVATIONS ARE NEEDED, AND THEN FOR THE REVOCATION, IT WOULD HAVE A SUMMARY OF IT, A VIOLATION OF THE TERMS OF THE APPROVED CONDITIONAL USE ARE FOUND. THE PROPERTY OWNER SHALL HAVE 30 DAYS TO COMPLY WITH THE APPROVED CONDITIONAL USE, OR A PLANNING COMMISSION HEARING SHALL BE SCHEDULED. AND THEN THIS IS WHAT IT WOULD READ IN THE TEXT ITSELF. THE REVOCATION IS POINTED OUT IN THE SECOND PARAGRAPH. SO JUST THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION MAY REVOKE THE APPROVED CONDITIONAL USE. THE MUNICIPALITY SHALL NOTIFY A CONDITIONAL USE HOLDER WITH THE REASONS OF VALID VIOLATION OF THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF THE APPROVED CONDITIONAL USE AND STATEMENT THAT THE CONDITIONAL USE HOLDER SHALL HAVE 30 DAYS TO COMPLY WITH THE APPROVED CONDITIONAL USE. IF THE CONDITIONAL USE HOLDER DOES NOT COMPLY, A PLANNING COMMISSION HEARING SHALL BE SCHEDULED. THE REQUIREMENTS FOR PUBLIC NOTICE AND NOTIFICATION OF PARTIES OF INTEREST SHALL BE SPECIFIED IN SECTION 1115 .05, AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION MAY EITHER
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REVOKE, CONTINUE, OR MODIFY THE APPROVED CONDITIONAL USE. THIS IS VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DO FOR CODE ENFORCEMENT AS OF RIGHT NOW AS WELL. THANK YOU. ANY. YEAH. SO JUST ONE APPROACHING.SO EVERYTHING'S THE SAME IN THE FIRST PARAGRAPH. AND THE SECOND ONE IS KYLIE MENTIONED. WE'RE JUST TRYING TO LIKE ADD MORE CLARITY FOR THE PROCESS. SO WE CHOSE 30 DAYS BECAUSE WE FEEL LIKE THAT'S A SUFFICIENT AMOUNT OF TIME BASED ON OUR EXPERIENCE WITH OTHER CODE ENFORCEMENT CASES. AND SO, YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE SOMETHING VERY SIMPLE. WHEN WE WERE DISCUSSING THIS, YOU KNOW, IF IT WAS A MODEL HOME, RIGHT. AND PLANNING COMMISSION SAYS YOU CAN ONLY OPERATE YOUR MODEL HOME UNTIL LIKE 5 P.M. DURING WEEKNIGHTS IF WE FIND THAT THEY'RE OPERATING AT 8 P.M, YOU KNOW, THEN THEY WOULD HAVE 30 DAYS TO STOP THAT OPERATION, RIGHT? BUT IF THEY KEPT DOING IT, WHAT WE SAY IS THAT THEN A PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING SHALL BE SCHEDULED, AND WE SORT OF LEFT THAT A LITTLE OPEN ENDED JUST SO WE CAN WE HAVE FLEXIBILITY AS STAFF TO SCHEDULE THAT AT THE NEXT UPCOMING MEETING, INSTEAD OF JUST GIVING US LIKE 30 DAYS OR SOMETHING TO SCHEDULE IT. THAT WAY WE CAN, BASED ON, YOU KNOW, KIND OF HOW IT FALLS IN RELATION TO THE NEXT AGENDA, POSTING DEADLINES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO WITH THAT, YEAH, WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY, ANY QUESTIONS. AND IF THE HOLDER DOESN'T COMPLY, DOESN'T IT JUST EXPIRE? WHY DO WE NEED A PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING FOR THAT. SO TYPICALLY WHEN. SO I GUESS BASED ON THE NEW DEADLINE SO OR EXPIRATION. SO IT KIND OF DEPENDS ON WHAT IT IS. SO IF THEY HAVE A CONDITIONAL USE AGAIN LIKE A MODEL HOME OR SOMETHING WHERE IT'S BUILT AND THEN THEY'RE ALLOWED TO OPERATE FOR LIKE 2 TO 3 YEARS, TYPICALLY FOR MODEL HOMES AFTER THE CONSTRUCTION HAS BEEN DONE. THERE'S INSTANCES LIKE THAT WHERE IT'S SORT OF LIKE A TEMPORARY USE. THAT'S A CONDITIONAL USE THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION. SO I THINK THAT'S AND THAT'S WHY I GAVE THAT AS AN EXAMPLE. IT'S SORT OF AN EASY ONE TO KNOW ABOUT.
THERE'S OTHER ONES WHERE THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS APPROVED CONDITIONAL USES FOR SPECIFIC BUSINESSES. AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING ELSE WHERE WE THINK IT KIND OF CONTINUES WITH THAT BUSINESS. SO IT WOULDN'T NECESSARILY EXPIRE. BUT THERE COULD BE, YOU KNOW, CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL THAT THAT BUSINESS HAS TO ABIDE BY SORT OF IN PERPETUITY. BUT WOULDN'T IT BE UP TO THAT HOLDER TO APPLY FOR US TO BRING IT BACK TO HERE VERSUS THAT BE AN AUTOMATIC? SO I THINK IT WOULD BE AUTOMATIC THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN AND CITY STAFF WOULD TAKE THE LEAD ON SCHEDULING THAT CERTAINLY WE WOULD, YOU KNOW, TELL THE PROPERTY OWNER THAT WE'RE DOING THAT AND GIVE THEM 30 DAYS TO REMEDY WHATEVER THAT VIOLATION MAY BE, BUT THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE SAME NOTIFICATION. SO PUBLIC NOTICE IS THE AGENDA. AND POSTING ON THE WEBSITE AND NOTIFICATION IS ANY, ANY AND EVERY CONDITIONAL USE REQUIRES PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200FT TO BE NOTIFIED. SO WE WOULD NOTIFY NEIGHBORS SO THEY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME TO THE PUBLIC MEETING AS WELL. I HAVE A LITTLE I'M READING THIS AGAIN AND AGAIN. I THINK THAT THE FIRST PARAGRAPH MIGHT CONFLICT WITH THE SECOND PARAGRAPH, BECAUSE IT SAYS THAT IT WILL BECOME SHALL BECOME NULL AND VOID. AND THEN IT KIND OF TALKS ABOUT THE PROCESS TO GET THERE. AND I THINK THAT THE TRIGGERING EVENT FOR THE DUE PROCESS IS THE ONE YEAR.
CONDITIONAL USE. YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. I GUESS WE HAD SORT OF LEFT THIS OPEN ENDED JUST AND I CAN'T THINK OF A GOOD EXAMPLE OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD WHERE I GUESS THEY COULD BE UNDER CONSTRUCTION, BUT THERE STILL COULD BE SOMETHING THEY HAVE TO BE DOING DURING CONSTRUCTION WITHIN THAT TWO YEARS. YOU KNOW, THAT IS APPLICABLE TO THE CONDITIONAL USE. SO I THINK THE WAY IT'S WORDED, I THINK THERE'S REALLY NO TRIGGER BECAUSE IT KIND OF ALLOWS LIKE IF THERE'S ANY VIOLATION OF THE CONDITIONAL USE EITHER, LIKE DURING CONSTRUCTION OR AFTER THAT, CITY STAFF COULD NOTIFY THEM, GIVE THEM 30 DAYS, AND IF THEY'RE NOT IN COMPLIANCE, THEN COME BACK. IS THAT AM I READING THIS WRONG? ARE THEY ARE THEY TALKING ABOUT TWO DIFFERENT THINGS? YES, I'M READING IT WRONG. OKAY. THANK YOU. ONCE. EXPIRATION ONE'S EXPIRATION ONE'S REVOCATION FOR NON IS FOR VIOLATION OKAY. THANK YOU. SORRY. SECOND PARAGRAPH IS EFFECTIVELY AN ENFORCEMENT ACTION RIGHT. YEAH THAT'S TRUE. YEAH YEAH I MISUNDERSTOOD THE QUESTION. MAYBE PUT A LITTLE LIKE. TIME EXPIRATION VIOLATIONS FOR US LAWYERS WHO. YEAH LIKE TO READ. WELL BUT ONLY PARTS OF IT BECAUSE THIS GOES THIS GOES BACK TO BRUCE'S POINT. BECAUSE IF IT JUST EXPIRES IT EXPIRES. THAT'S IT EXPIRES. THAT'S UNDER ONE. YEAH. OR BECOMES KNOWN VOID. AND THEN NUMBER TWO. YEAH I THINK THAT'S I WAS THINKING THE SAME THING BECAUSE BRUCE WAS SAYING WHY DO WE HAVE TO HAVE A HEARING IF IT'S JUST EXPIRES? BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T DO WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO DO? I GET IT, WE DON'T NEED TO HAVE A HEARING IF THEY IF IT EXPIRES. RIGHT? CORRECT. YEAH. YOU'RE DONE. YOU'RE OUT OF THERE. THEY'RE DONE. RIGHT. BUT IF YOU MESS UP
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AND HAVE A VIOLATION, THEN YOU'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT IT. YEAH. SO THAT'S A GREAT SUGGESTION. YEAH. WE COULD ADD YOU KNOW LIKE WE HAVE IN MANY OTHER CODE SECTIONS LIKE SUBSECTION A PROCESS, SUBSECTION B COULD BE THE EXPIRATION, THE EXPIRATION PART. I THINK WE WOULD ADD PROBABLY THAT LAST SENTENCE TO. SO IT'S ACCOMPANYING THE FIRST PARAGRAPH THERE IF THAT MAKES SENSE. SO YEAH. SO ONE MORE. WE DISCUSSED THIS LAST AT THE LAST MEETING.BUT I STILL I STILL HAVE TROUBLE WITH THE WORDING OF THE FIRST PARAGRAPH BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THINGS BECOME NULL AND VOID WITHIN PERIODS. THEY BECOME NULL AND VOID WHEN SOMETHING HAPPENS.
AND SO I STILL THINK THE WORD WITHIN WHERE IT SAYS IF A PERMIT HAS NOT BEEN ISSUED. I'M LOSING MY SPOT HERE. SHALL BECOME NULL AND VOID AFTER ONE YEAR OF AN OCCUPANCY PERMIT HAS BEEN ISSUED, OR AFTER TWO YEARS IF RENOVATIONS HAVE NOT BEGUN. WAIT A MINUTE. LET ME. MAYBE I'M IN THE WRONG SPOT. YEAH. YOU WANT THE SAME VERB AFTER? YEAH. OR THE SAME MODIFIER? WHATEVER. MY ENGLISH IS SLIPPING. YEAH. AFTER THE FIRST ONE YOU WANT TO USE. AFTER IN THE SECOND ONE. THESE ARE TWO DIFFERENT TRIGGERING CONDITIONS. YEAH. WAIT. WAIT A SECOND. I'M. NOW I'M LOOKING AT THIS. THE VERSION IN OUR PACKET IS DIFFERENT THAN THE LANGUAGE OF OH DO WE PUT WITHIN THERE. DO WE TWEAK IT ON YOU I APOLOGIZE WE NO NO NO DON'T. NO I WAS WORK I WAS WORKING OFF THE PACKET AND THEN I WAS TRYING TO FIND THE LANGUAGE UP ON THE SCREEN AND I COULDN'T FIND IT. AND THAT'S WHAT. SO I THINK IT'S I THINK IT'S LET ME READ THE ONE UP THERE. I THINK IT'S CORRECT.
YEAH. YEAH. IT'S FIXED. YEAH. IT'S FIXED AFTER IT'S USED TWICE. I REMEMBER THAT DISCUSSION. YEAH. IT SAYS YEAH, YEAH. IT SAYS WITHIN HERE. YEAH YEAH YEAH OKAY OKAY. LET ME READ IT REAL QUICK AND MAKE SURE I'M. SURE I'LL BE COMING ON BOARD AFTER ONE YEAR. IF AN ALTERATION HAS NOT BEEN ISSUED OR AFTER TWO YEARS IF RENOVATIONS HAVE OR CONSTRUCTION HAVE NOT BEEN. WELL OKAY. OKAY. I'M SORRY FOR THAT CONFUSION. YEAH, WE WERE INTENDING AND WENT THROUGH THIS YET TO MEET THAT BECAUSE I REMEMBER THAT COMMENT FROM LAST TIME. YEAH. SO THIS IS PERFECT.
AND ALTHOUGH I'M NOT SURE I'M, I'M NOT SURE HAS IS THE RIGHT VERB THERE, BUT I, IT MAY BE DEPENDS IF RENOVATIONS OR CONSTRUCTION IS CONSIDERED PLURAL OR SINGULAR. BUT ANYWAY RENOVATION. OH I SEE YEAH. IF RENOVATION OR CONSTRUCTION. YEAH. ONES. PLURAL IS IT. I GUESS IT SHOULD BE. HAS SINCE IT'S RENOVATIONS OR CONSTRUCTION. EITHER ONE HAS NOT. I THINK IT SHOULD BE. HAS. YEAH. IT'S A LITTLE CLUMSY. YEAH. OKAY. I GO BACK ON THE SECOND ONE. IF THE, IF THE HOLDER HAS BEEN GIVEN NOTICE AND THEY DON'T COMPLY AND THEY HAVE NO INTENTION OF COMPLYING, I MEAN, WOULDN'T THAT JUST BE REVOKED RATHER THAN US SPENDING TIME BECAUSE IT COMES HERE. WE'RE JUST GOING TO SAY REVOKE IT ANYWAY, RIGHT? NO, WE HAD A CHOICE. RIGHT? YEAH. I THINK TO GIVE THEM DUE PROCESS. SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE CITY STAFF AND TELL ME IF I'M WRONG HERE, BEN. LIKE WE CAN'T TAKE THINGS AWAY. I THINK EVERY PROPERTY OWNER HAS TO HAVE SOME SORT OF DUE PROCESS TO GO TO THE BOARD. SO I DON'T THINK WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO JUST TAKE IT AWAY. I THINK WE HAVE TO ENSURE THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER HAS A DUE PROCESS TO COME BACK TO THE BOARD, SO THAT THE BOARD HAS THAT ULTIMATE AUTHORITY TO, YEAH, COMPLETELY REMOVE THINGS OR CHANGE CONDITIONS. I THINK THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT. IF YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE IT AWAY, THEY WOULD THEY WOULD HAVE TO HAVE DUE PROCESS TO AT LEAST HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME TO THE COMMISSION. AND AS MR. KIRBY NOTED, IT COULD BE REVOKED, CONTINUED, MODIFIED OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES. YOU'D HAVE BROAD DISCRETION TO DO SOMETHING ELSE. BUT IF THEY DON'T SHOW UP, THEN IT'S A SHORT, EASY HEARING. YEAH, OKAY. AND I WAS TRYING TO SAY, IF IT'S GOING TO BE SHORT AND EASY, WHY DO WE EVEN HAVE IT? BUT THE DUE PROCESS. RIGHT. DUE PROCESS.
OKAY. I MEAN I NOT TO CONTINUE PARSING THIS SINCE IT'S GETTING LATE, BUT MAYBE THE WAY TO START THE SECOND PARAGRAPH IS NOT TO START. THE PLANNING COMMISSION CAN REVOKE. MAYBE THE WAY YOU START IS, IS TO SAY THAT IN SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT OF IN THE EVENT THE CITY IS NOTIFIED OF A VIOLATION OR DETECTS A VIOLATION. THIS IS THE PROCESS THAT TAKES PLACE, BECAUSE THAT'S THE PROCESS THAT TAKES PLACE WHEN A VIOLATION IS IDENTIFIED, SOME SORT OF A ZONING OR WHATEVER VIOLATION IS IDENTIFIED, AND THEN IT GETS ELEVATED TO THE TO THE COMMISSION. THE FIRST ONE IS JUST IT EXPIRES BY ITS OWN TERMS. BUT AGAIN, WE'RE MAYBE WE'RE OVERTHINKING THINGS, BUT AND MAYBE THE LABELING WE TALKED ABOUT WILL FIX THAT ISSUE. YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW EXPIRATION VERSUS REVOCATION. BUT IT IT'S NOT GOOD IF YOU HAVE TO READ AN ORDINANCE
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SECTION 2 OR 3 TIMES TO SORT OF GET WHAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO SAY. YEAH. AND WE DON'T WANT OUR CODE TO BE THAT, YOU KNOW, DIFFICULT FOR PEOPLE TO INTERPRET AND UNDERSTAND. YEAH. NO, WE 100% AGREE. YEAH. NO WE APPRECIATE THIS FEEDBACK. THIS IS GREAT. DO YOU NEED A RECOMMENDATION FROM US TO COUNCIL. YEAH THAT'D BE GREAT. IF YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE I MOVE TO RECOMMEND TO COUNCIL THE CHANGES AS AMENDED AND CLARIFIED. DO I HEAR A SECOND. IS THAT GOING TO BE CLEAR ENOUGH? I'M SORRY. YEAH, I THINK SO. WE HAVE THE MINUTES AND WE CAN FOLLOW UP WITH YOU GUYS TOO AS WE SEND IT TO COUNCIL. WHAT? YOU KNOW WHAT WE'RE THEN I'LL SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION ON THE RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL. OKAY. CAN I CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE, MR. KIRBY? YES.MR. WALLACE. YES, MR. LARSEN? YES, MISS BRIGGS. YES, MR. SHELL. YES. THE MOTION PASSES WITH ALL VOTES TO RECOMMEND THE CODE UPDATE, AS AMENDED BY COMMISSIONER WALLACE. THAT TAKES
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US TO FULL MEMBERS FOR COMMENTS. YEAH, YEAH. NO COMMENT. THANK YOU. ANYTHING OTHER THAN STAY WARM ON THIS LAST ONE? COULD WE INCLUDE THE UPDATE? ARE YOU GOING TO INCLUDE THE UPDATED LANGUAGE BECAUSE IT'S DIFFERENT THAN THE BACK. THEN THAT'S WHY I ADDED THE CLARIFIED. YEAH I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE. GOT IT OKAY. NO I'M GOOD. SO DO WE REALLY HEAR 100 ZONING CASES LAST YEAR SINCE THIS ONE WAS 100. SO YEAH, I THINK SO I BELIEVE SO, YEAH. WOW. YEAH I THINK IT WAS I THINK WE MIGHT HAVE HIT 100 THE YEAR BEFORE TOO. BUT YEAH, WE'RE HITTING RECORD NUMBERS. SO YEAH WE'RE WE'RE GOING TO, WE'RE GOING TO DOUBLE YOUR SALARY. YEAH. WHICH IS ZERO ZERO TIMES TWO. OTHER COMMENTS DAVID BRUCE. YEP. NOPE, NOPE. IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE. NO, LET ME JUST SAY IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE. WE I THINK THE INDICATION IS WE'RE HAVING MEETINGS ON THE FIRST MONDAYS. I THINK THAT'S ALWAYS AN INDICATION TO THE AMOUNT OF APPLICATIONS. SO I THINK I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE CONTINUING TO THROUGHOUT THE SPRING. OH IS THAT RIGHT? YEAH. MULTIPLE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETINGS A MONTH. YEAH. AND FOR STAFF I WILL MISS THE MARCH MEETING AS USUAL, BECAUSE I'M GOING TO THE SAME CONFERENCE AS USUAL THE WEEK AFTER BREAK. THAT'S THE THIRD MONDAY THAT YOU'RE MISSING. YEAH. OKAY. WITH* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.