Feb 04, 2025 City Council

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AND MAYOR, WHENEVER YOU'RE READY. GOOD EVENING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, AND WELCOME TO THE

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YES. AND IF COUNCIL WILL TURN ON THEIR MICROPHONES. MAYOR SPALDING HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER.

BRISK. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER. DEREK. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER. FELLOWS IS TRAVELING AND HAS REQUESTED TO BE EXCUSED. COUNCIL MEMBER. KIST HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER SHAW HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER WILTROUT HERE. I HAVE SIX PRESENT FOR THE FEBRUARY 4TH, 2025 REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING.

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ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER PROPOSED CHANGES TO TONIGHT'S AGENDA? ALL RIGHT. THEN I MOVE THAT WE AMEND THE AGENDA TO INCLUDE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION UNDER OHIO REVISED CODE ONE 2120 2G3 FOR A CONFERENCE WITH AN ATTORNEY FOR THE PUBLIC BODY CONCERNING DISPUTES INVOLVING THE PUBLIC BODY THAT ARE SUBJECT TO PENDING OR IMMINENT COURT ACTION, AND ALSO TO MOVE UP THE PRESENTATION OF THE PARKS AND TRAILS TO UNDER HEARING OF VISITORS. AFTER THE ROSRUN TWO PRESENTATION. SECOND.

MAYOR. SPALDING. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. COMBS. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. WILTROUT. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. SHAW. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. DETRICK. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. BRISK. YES. I HAVE SIX

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AND ONE OF THE BEST THINGS WE GET TO DO AS A CITY COUNCIL IS TO RECOGNIZE OUTSTANDING EFFORTS IN OUR COMMUNITY. AND TONIGHT, IT'S OUR PRIVILEGE TO ISSUE A PROCLAMATION CONGRATULATING THE ALBANY EAGLES 2024 DIVISION TWO STATE CHAMPION BOYS SOCCER TEAM. I THINK COACH IS HERE. IF YOU WANT TO JUST COME UP AND SHARE A COUPLE WORDS AND INTRODUCE THE PLAYERS AND SHOW OFF THE HARDWARE, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, SOCCER IS SOCCER NEVER ENDS, RIGHT? SO THERE'S ALWAYS SOME TRAINING GOING ON. AND A LOT OF THE KIDS ARE ARE BUSY DOING THAT. SO WE HAVE A SMALL BUT MIGHTY REPRESENTATION OF THE BOYS SOCCER TEAM. AND FEEL FREE TO MOVE UP THE MICROPHONE. IT'S LOUD, BUT IT WORKS. FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR HAVING US HERE. AND YES, SO THE PLAYERS HERE THAT ARE WITH ME IS WE'VE GOT WYATT, WE'VE GOT DREW TEBBIT. WE GOT BEN BIGGS OVER HERE. PRETTY BIG LEADERS FOR OUR GROUP THIS PAST SEASON. BUT YEAH, GOING INTO THE SEASON WE FELT THAT THIS WAS GOING TO BE A REALLY GOOD YEAR FOR US. BASED ON THE GROUP THAT WE HAD RETURNING. THE BOYS WORKED INCREDIBLY HARD. I MEAN, STARTING ALL THE WAY BACK TO LAST JANUARY WHERE WE WERE IN THE WEIGHT ROOM THREE DAYS A WEEK, INCLUDING THE FRIDAY MORNING AT 6 A.M, WHICH WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW, AND JUST HAVING THIS PAST FRIDAY AT 6 A.M. FOR THE NEW GROUP COMING UP. AND THEN THE SUMMER WE GOT INVOLVED, YOU KNOW, SWIMMING TWICE A WEEK, WORKING OUT THREE TIMES A WEEK, PLUS ALL OF THE ACTUAL TRAINERS ON THE FIELD. AND WE LIVE IN A GREAT COMMUNITY THAT'S GOT A TON OF RESOURCES. SO THERE'S REALLY NO EXCUSES FOR US NOT TO COMPETE AT AN ELITE LEVEL. AND SO WE'RE VERY THANKFUL FOR THAT. AND THE BOYS JUST WORKED EXTREMELY HARD. WE FINISHED IN ONE NATIONAL POLL. WE FINISHED SIXTH IN THE COUNTRY AND ANOTHER NATIONAL POLL, WE FINISHED FOURTH IN THE COUNTRY, AND WE OBVIOUSLY WON A DIVISION TWO STATE CHAMPIONSHIP. AND WE'LL GO AHEAD AND JUST CLAIM THE STATE OF OHIO AS OURS, BECAUSE THE TWO TEAMS THAT PLAYED IN THE DIVISION ONE STATE CHAMPIONSHIP, WE BEAT BOTH OF THOSE EARLIER IN THE SEASON. SO WE LIKE TO THINK THAT WE'RE THAT THAT WE'RE THE BEST. BUT AGAIN, WE'RE LUCKY. WE HAVE A GREAT COMMUNITY. WE'VE GOT A GREAT SOCCER PROGRAM. AND AGAIN, THANKS FOR HAVING US HERE TONIGHT. WELL JOHNNY THANK YOU. I KNOW IT'S YOU KNOW, THE FIRST TWO GO ROUNDS DIDN'T GET THE HARDWARE, BUT THE THIRD, THIRD, THIRD TIME WAS A CHARM. AND I

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AND TO WIN IN THE MANNER THAT YOU DID IN THE FINAL GAME WAS WAS GREAT. FANS GOT THEIR MONEY'S WORTH FOR SURE, AND NOT TO EVER CALL OUT ONE PLAYER BECAUSE I APPRECIATE IT'S DEFINITELY A TEAM SPORT. BUT WYATT, MY HEAVENS SAKES MAN. AND THAT I HOPE YOU GOT THAT VIDEO PRESERVED SOMEWHERE BECAUSE THAT WAS THAT WAS ABSOLUTELY AMAZING. I MEAN, THAT WAS AN ABSOLUTELY AMAZING FEAT THAT NIGHT. I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, IF YOU EVER HAVE A DAY LIKE THAT THE REST OF YOUR LIFE, BUT YOU'LL NEVER FORGET THAT. MAN, THAT WAS INCREDIBLE. SO, SO FOR REFERENCE, WHY IS THE GOALKEEPER FOR THE TEAM AND YOU GUYS DIDN'T CONCEDE IN THE TOURNAMENT, DID YOU? ZERO GOALS.

IT'S A PRO. WE GOT TWO KEEPERS AND A CENTER BACK HERE. SO THAT'S APPROPRIATE BECAUSE THIS TEAM WAS REALLY HARD TO SCORE ON. BUT WYATT STOOD ON HIS HEAD AND IT WAS BASICALLY A BRICK WALL IN THE IN THE STATE FINAL. SO IT WAS AMAZING. HE WALKED OVER TO THE BOYS AND WE WENT TO THAT SHOOTOUT WHERE IT CAN BE NERVY. HE WALKED OVER AND WE WERE GETTING OUR WATER AND HE LOOKED AT ALL THE BOYS AND HE GOES, JUST MAKE YOUR SHOTS. I'M GOING TO SAVE ONE. AND HE MADE THE VERY FIRST ONE. SO TO HAVE THAT LEADER AND TO HAVE THAT CONFIDENCE GOING INTO IT DEFINITELY HELPED THE BOYS FEEL GOOD ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO. AND YEAH, IT WAS AN UNBELIEVABLE GAME FROM HIM. AND YEAH, WELL DONE. WELL LET ME READ THIS PROCLAMATION AND I'LL LET YOU GUYS GET ON WITH THE REST OF YOUR EVENING. A PROCLAMATION AGAIN CONGRATULATING THE NEW ALBANY EAGLES 2024 DIVISION TWO STATE CHAMPION BOYS SOCCER TEAM. THE FOLLOWING ARE THE MEMBERS OF THE NEW ALBANY DIVISION TWO SOCCER TEAM AND THE ROSTERS THERE. AND I'M NOT GOING TO READ EVERYONE'S NAME TONIGHT, BUT WHEREAS JOHNNY AND THE REST OF THE COACHES OF NEW ALBANY HIGH SCHOOL DIVISION TWO SOCCER TEAM BROUGHT HOME THE CHAMPIONSHIP, WHEREAS THE NEW ALBANY EAGLE SOCCER TEAM WON THEIR FIRST DIVISION TWO STATE CHAMPIONSHIP WITH AN OVERALL RECORD OF 21 AND ZERO, WHEREAS THE NEW ALBANY EAGLES DEFEATED WALSH JESUIT HIGH SCHOOL AT THE HISTORIC CREW STADIUM. AFTER TWO OVERTIMES AND A53 PENALTY SHOOTOUT, WINNING 64 TEAM TOURNAMENTS, WHEREAS THREE PLAYERS WERE NAMED TO THE DIVISION TWO ALL FIRST TEAM ALL DISTRICT AWARDS AND OHIO CAPITAL CONFERENCE AWARDS. LONDON SEARS, MATT BOYD AND ADAM HOY, AND LONDON SEARS WAS NAMED AN ALL-OHIO PLAYER OF THE YEAR, WHEREAS HEAD COACH JOHNNY O'LEARY WAS NAMED THE OHIO COACH OF THE YEAR AS WELL. WHEREAS THE DEVOTED COACHES AND PARENTS HELPED THIS TEAM TO DEVELOP THEIR PHYSICAL TALENT AND COMMITTED TO THEIR GOALS, WHICH GREATLY AIDED IN THE PLAYERS MEETING THIS CHALLENGE. NOW, THEREFORE, I. SLOANE SPALDING, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY, COUNTIES OF FRANKLIN AND LICKING ON BEHALF OF THE STATE OF OHIO AND OUR RESIDENTS WISH TO CONGRATULATE THE 2024 NEW ALBANY HIGH SCHOOL DIVISION TWO BOYS STATE CHAMPIONSHIP TEAM AND COMMEND THEM FOR THEIR DISCIPLINED FOCUS AND HARD WORK THAT RESULTED IN THIS AWESOME ACHIEVEMENT. GENTLEMEN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR REPRESENTING THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY SO WELL. AND CONGRATULATIONS ON THIS AWESOME, AWESOME VICTORY. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. YEAH. I GOTTA GET A QUICK PHOTO. YEAH. IT'S POSSIBLE. YEAH.

APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH. I APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE AND THE TEAM. PERFECT. AND NO PRESSURE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. JOHNNY. CONGRATULATIONS. THAT'S AWESOME. CONGRATULATIONS.

CONGRATS. WELL DESERVED. THANK YOU. HEY, IF YOU GUYS GET A PROCLAMATION, YOU HAVE TO STAY FOR THE ENTIRE MEETING. THAT'S HOW IT WORKS. OR YOU HAVE TO LEAVE THE TROPHY HERE, ONE OR THE OTHER. THERE YOU GO. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. I'M NOT SURE HOW WE TOP THAT, BUT WE'RE GOING TO GIVE IT A HECK OF A SHOT. OUR FRIENDS ARE GOING TO GIVE US A ROSE. ONE, TWO. PRESENTATION. DRUM ROLL PLEASE. LET'S. WE'LL GET THE SLIDES CHANGED OVER. SO I'LL PLAY THE DRUMS. SOUNDS GOOD. GOOD EVENING. I LIKE THE DRUM ROLL. I'M HERE TONIGHT TO TAKE YOU THROUGH SOME INFORMATION RELATED TO THE ROSE RUN TWO PROJECT. WITH ME IS JEFF PAGONIS. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU BROUGHT ANY HARDWARE WITH YOU OR A TROPHY. I HAVE NOT. OKAY. I'LL TAKE THAT. TAKE ALL JEWELRY. RIGHT. JEFF, I THINK, HAS STUDIED THIS SITE MORE THAN PROBABLY ANYBODY COULD IN TERMS OF WHAT COULD BE POSSIBLE AS FAR AS ROSE RUN TO AND HOW TO ACCOMMODATE THINGS LIKE PARKING AND VEHICLES AND ALL THAT STUFF. SO WE HAVE REVIEWED A LOT OF THIS INFORMATION WITH EACH OF YOU BEFORE, ONCE IN THE FALL, WHEN THE NEW ALBANY COMPANY

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YEAH. YEAH. NICE TO SEE EVERYONE. HAPPY TO BE BACK. I'VE GOT A SERIES OF SLIDES HERE.

LIKE ADRIAN SAID, WE'VE BEEN THROUGH THESE A MILLION TIMES. SO IF YOU FEEL LIKE. WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? OR SLOW DOWN. CAN WE TALK ABOUT SOMETHING AGAIN? RAISE YOUR HAND AND WE'LL STOP AND GO THROUGH A FEW THINGS IN MORE DETAIL. GET US START BY SHOWING YOU THE PLAN ON THE SCREEN RIGHT NOW, WHICH IS WHERE WE WERE A YEAR AGO. SO FROM NORTH TO SOUTH, FROM DUBLIN-GRANVILLE DOWN TO VILLAGE HALL ROAD, WE HAVE THE TWO NEW ALBANY COMPANY PARCELS IN GREEN.

AND THIS SORT OF CONNECTION OVER THE SCREEN UP TO DUBLIN-GRANVILLE ROAD. IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PLAN, WE HAD THE VETERANS MEMORIAL AND FOUNDERS FIELD, AND THEN ANCHORED ON THE SOUTH BY THE PARKING STRUCTURE. SO THAT'S KIND OF THE BROAD STROKES OF THE PREVIOUS PLAN, A LITTLE BIT MORE DEVELOPED THAN WHERE WE ARE TODAY. BUT THAT'S KIND OF PART OF THE EXERCISE. SO THE PLAN TODAY THAT WE WANT TO SHOW YOU ASSUMES A FEW NEW THINGS. AND GENERALLY, I THINK YOU'RE ALL IN TUNE WITH THE BIG CHANGES HERE. BUT I'LL DO THIS SORT OF SAME MOVE FROM DUBLIN-GRANVILLE DOWN TO VILLAGE HALL ROAD. SO ALONG DUBLIN-GRANVILLE ROAD. NOW THAT GROUND HAS BEEN FREED UP FOR PUBLIC PARK, PUBLIC PARK SPACE. WE'RE SUPER EXCITED TO EXTEND THAT ROSE RUN CORRIDOR DOWN DUBLIN-GRANVILLE ROAD AND THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY AND FOR THE COMMUNITY TO HAVE SOME OPEN SPACE ANCHORED RIGHT IN THE VILLAGE OR RIGHT IN THE CENTER OF TOWN. SO THERE'LL BE SOME SOME AMENITIES ALONG THE STREAM, WHICH WE'LL GET INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE LATER. AND THEN THE OPPORTUNITY HERE FOR A SIMILAR KIND OF VILLAGE HALL PROGRAM. AND. FOUNDER STEELE SITUATION, AND THEN A PARKING FACILITY ALONG VILLAGE HALL ROAD THAT IN THIS ITERATION IS SHOWN AS A TRADITIONAL SURFACE PARKING LOT.

SO THE PARK PROGRAM IS A LOT LIKE WHAT IT WAS BEFORE. A REALLY INCREDIBLE VETERANS MEMORIAL. AND. FOUNDER'S FIELD FACILITIES IN TOWN. SO YOU'VE SEEN ALL THESE IMAGES BEFORE.

THE IDEA IS THAT WE WOULD GENERALLY BRING THESE FORWARD TO THE NEW PLAN AS WELL, SORT OF, REGARDLESS OF WHERE EXACTLY THEY MIGHT FALL ON THE PLAN FROM OPTION A TO OPTION B, WHICH WE'LL SHOW YOU. ON THE LEFT YOU SEE THE GOLD STAR STATUE, WHICH YOU ALL REMEMBER FROM THE PLAN, WHICH, YOU KNOW, TO BE FAIR, WAS KIND OF TUCKED UP IN THE EASTERN CORNER OF THE SITE. IT WAS WELL PLACED. WE LIKED IT A LOT, BUT IT WAS DEFINITELY KIND OF TUCKED IN THERE. I THINK THE NEW PARK, OR THE NEW ARRANGEMENT OF LAND WILL OFFER US SOME OPPORTUNITIES TO LOOSEN THOSE THINGS UP. AND THEN ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE YOU SEE THE MEMORIAL GROVE, WHICH, TO BE FAIR, MAYOR, WAS A LITTLE ALSO KIND OF TUCKED INTO THE PLAN BECAUSE WE JUST, YOU KNOW, AT SOME POINT KIND OF RAN OUT OF ROOM. AND I THINK IN THIS CASE, AS WE MOVE FORWARD, THERE'LL BE MORE ROOM FOR THAT MEMORIAL GROVE TO REALLY TAKE SHAPE AND BE A BETTER PART OF THE PLAN. SO THAT'S VERY EXCITING. A WHOLE LIST OF PROGRAM ELEMENTS THAT WE WENT THROUGH INTERNALLY WITH STAFF AND SOME WORKSHOPS. I WON'T BORE YOU WITH ALL OF THIS ONE BY ONE, BUT WE DID TAKE SOME TIME TO STEP BACK AND SAY WHAT SHOULD BE IN THE PARK, AND WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE NOW THAT WE HAVE THIS NEW OPPORTUNITY AND YOU'LL SEE SOME OF THAT STUFF SHOW UP HERE IN THE PLANS? SO ADRIAN MENTIONED ONE OF THE

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SO, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THIS IS ALL UP FOR DISCUSSION. SO THE ONE ON THE RIGHT SHOWS A COFFEE AND ICE CREAM KIOSK IN A PUBLIC PARK. AND THIS ONE ON THE IN THE MIDDLE IS ACTUALLY THIS IS AT THE NATIONAL SCULPTURE GARDEN IN WASHINGTON, DC. THIS IS KIND OF A FULL FLEDGED PARK RESTAURANT, AND WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY PROPOSING THOSE. BUT JUST IF YOU SORT OF THINK ABOUT THESE AS AN ARRAY OF OPTIONS, OPEN AIR, PARK LIKE FACILITY TO SORT OF RESTAURANT STYLE, THOSE ARE JUST, YOU KNOW, THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT IN OUR WORKSHOP. GOT IT. OKAY. THANK YOU. YEAH.

OKAY. SO JUST TO SET THE STAGE FOR PARKING CONCEPTUALLY TO HELP US DEVELOP A PLAN FOR WHAT THE PARKING DEMAND WOULD BE ON THIS SITE, WE STUDIED TWO SORT OF BUILDING ADDITIONS, IF YOU WILL, OR EXPANSIONS. SO THE FIRST ONE IS AN ADDITION TO VILLAGE HALL HERE, JUST CONCEPTUAL IN NATURE.

AND SECOND IS TO THE POLICE STATION. AND WHAT THIS DID WAS GIVE US AN UNDERSTANDING OF HOW MANY EMPLOYEES COULD FIT INSIDE THE BUILDING, JUST BASED ON CAPACITY, SQUARE FOOTAGE AND WHATNOT. AND THAT HELPED US DEVELOP SORT OF A TOTAL PARKING DEMAND FOR THE LOT. OKAY, SO THIS IS TODAY. THIS IS THE EXISTING PARKING CONDITIONS. SO TODAY THE VILLAGE HALL LOT HAS 68 SPACES. AND THE POLICE STATION, THEY HAVE ABOUT 27 SPACES FOR A TOTAL OF 95 SPACES.

OKAY. THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL 32 ON STREET SPACES ON MAIN STREET AND VILLAGE HALL ROAD, BUT I DON'T THINK THOSE REALLY COME TO MUCH INTO THE CONVERSATION. BUT FOR CONTEXT, THOSE ARE THERE.

OKAY. THE PARKING DEMAND TODAY, COINCIDENTALLY, IS ABOUT 95 SPACES NOW. IT DOESN'T OFTEN GET FULLY FILLED OUT TO 95, BUT IF WE JUST DO THE RAW MATH, THE PARKING DEMAND IS ABOUT 95 SPACES. SO WE'RE SORT OF EVEN THE NEAR TERM PARKING DEMAND. ADRIAN HELPED ME WITH THIS. THIS IS. SIMILAR STAFFING LEVELS THAT EXIST IN VILLAGE HALL TODAY. THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, WITH THE EXPANSION OF FLEET VEHICLE PARKING FOR THE. SO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS SOME UNMARKED CARS AND DIFFERENT KIND OF VEHICLES THAT THEY NEED TO PARK HERE. THERE'S SOME FLEET CARS IN THE VILLAGE HALL. CAN YOU NOT HEAR ME? VERY WELL. AND I'M AFRAID THE RECORDING MIGHT. OR THE STREAM MIGHT MISS YOU. AND WE'VE INCLUDED SOME VISITOR PARKING AND PARKING FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO THE PARK. SO WITH THAT, IT'S ABOUT 110 SPACES. AGAIN, WE'RE CALLING THAT NEAR TERM. DEPENDING ON MU'S DEPARTMENT'S MOVE PLACES OR NOT. BUT IT'S ASSUMING A STAFFING LEVEL SIMILAR TO WHAT IS IN THE BUILDING TODAY, WHICH IS ABOUT 30 EMPLOYEES IN VILLAGE

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SO THE NEW SURFACE PARKING LOT WOULD INCLUDE 142 SPACES. AND THE NEW POLICE STATION SITE WOULD ACCOMMODATE NOT 118 18 NEW SPACES. COINCIDENTALLY LINKING UP WITH THAT 160. SO THAT'S A SORT OF FULLY PARKED SURFACE PARKING LOT, FULLY PARKED POLICE STATION, THE FLEET VEHICLES, VISITORS TO VILLAGE HALL AND THE PARK THAT GETS YOU RIGHT TO 160. SO SCHEME A IS GOING TO PARK EVEN STEVEN. THE SECOND SCHEME IS AN UNDERGROUND PARKING SOLUTION WHEREBY ALL OF THAT PARKING THAT WE JUST SHOWED YOU BEFORE ON THE SURFACE WOULD BE UNDERGROUND. AND THAT GETS YOU 160 SPACES BELOW GROUND. LIKE I MENTIONED, 18 SPACES FOR POLICE AND THEN 178 SPACES IN TOTAL. SO THAT GIVES YOU A LITTLE BIT OF FLUFF. ON TOP OF THAT, 160 PARKING DEMAND. JUST THE SLIDE BEFORE IS THAT STRICTLY DEMAND FOR CITY PARKING. THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE ANY THAT ARE JUST SHOWING UP TO USE THE PARK. IS THAT RIGHT? DOES THOSE NUMBERS. IT DOES HAVE, I THINK, TEN PARK VISITOR SPACES BUILT IN AND THEN SOME ALSO VISITOR SPACES FOR PEOPLE COMING TO MEETINGS. OKAY.

AT VILLAGE HALL AND AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. OKAY. YEAH. SO BUILT INTO THE NUMBER AT ANY GIVEN TIME ARE PARK AND VILLAGE HALL VISITORS. SO THERE IS SOME SOME CAPACITY FOR VISITORS.

OKAY. SO IT'S REALLY 168 VERSUS OR 160 VERSUS 178 ROUGH JUSTICE OKAY. SO HERE'S THE TWO SCHEMES.

SO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IN THESE NEXT FEW SLIDES IS LOOK AT SCHEME. WELL LET'S CALL THEM SURFACE PARKING AND UNDERGROUND PARKING RATHER THAN A AND B. BUT LEFT TO RIGHT WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THESE SIDE BY SIDE JUST TO GIVE YOU SOME COMPARISON. SO I'LL WALK THROUGH THE SURFACE PARKING SCHEME FIRST. SO AGAIN ALONG DUBLIN-GRANVILLE ROAD THESE ARE GENERALLY THE SAME FROM SIDE TO SIDE PARK AMENITIES ALONG THE STREET. CONTINUING THE ROSE RUN CORRIDOR IN THE SURFACE PARKING SCHEME. WE'VE GOT THAT PARKING LOT SHOWN IN THE SAME PLACE. THE PARKING STRUCTURE WAS SHOWN LAST TIME, AND GENERALLY A VERY SIMILAR SCHEME FOR VETERANS MEMORIAL AND FOUNDER'S FIELD.

YOU STILL HAVE ACCESS TO THE STREAM, YOU STILL HAVE CROSSING. ALL THE SAME AMENITIES EXIST IN THE UNDERGROUND PARKING SCHEME. HERE'S HOW THIS ONE WORKS. SO TO ACCESS VILLAGE HALL ROAD, YOU GET A NICE SORT OF PORTE COCHERE OR AUTO COURT THAT WOULD SERVE VILLAGE HALL OVER HERE, AND THEN ACCESS TO THAT UNDERGROUND PARKING WOULD BE SERVED BY A RAMP RIGHT HERE, AND SERVE A PARKING GARAGE THAT'S IN THAT DASHED BLACK LINE THERE. AND THAT'S ABOUT 160 SPACES BELOW GROUND. TO GET UP AND DOWN IN THAT GARAGE, YOU WOULD USE A STAIR TOWER HERE OR HERE. AND YOU CAN IMAGINE FOR ACCESSIBILITY PURPOSES, AN ELEVATOR OR TWO AS WELL. THE POLICE STATION WOULD HAVE AN ISOLATED PARKING AND SERVICE LOT BACK HERE, YOU KNOW, TO SORT OF KEEP, YOU KNOW, THEIR FACILITY SORT OF SEPARATE TO THEMSELVES. WE CAN DO THE SAME THING OVER HERE IN A SCHEME IN THE FUTURE IF WE WANT TO, WITH LITTLE DISRUPTION TO THE SCHEME OR PARKING COUNT OR WHATNOT. THE BENEFIT OF SCHEME TWO IS THAT FOUNDER'S FIELD GETS ITS OWN SORT OF PLACE IN THE PARK, ITS OWN REAL ESTATE, AND WE SLIDE VETERANS MEMORIAL DOWN TOWARDS VILLAGE HALL ROAD. SO AGAIN, THEY EACH GET THEIR OWN SPACE RATHER THAN COMBINING THEM HERE.

WE DON'T THINK THIS EITHER ONE IS NECESSARILY BETTER OR WORSE. THESE ARE JUST TWO DIFFERENT WAYS TO KIND OF SKIN THE CAT, AND YOU'LL SORT OF SEE A LITTLE BIT OF THAT IN THE IMAGES I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU HERE. PLAN PLANS MAKE SENSE. ANY QUESTIONS. YEAH OKAY. SO JUST SOME QUICK HITS HERE. IN THIS CASE WE HAVE ABOUT 980 LINEAR FEET OF PARK FRONTAGE MEANING SORT OF THE AREA AROUND THIS THING WHERE WE HAVE PARK AND ABOUT 4.4 ACRES OF TOTAL PARK AND AGAIN, 160

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BUT WHAT WE'RE SUGGESTING IN THE SURFACE PARKING SCHEME, SO THAT THE PARK IS ACCESSIBLE AND NOT BLOCKED, IF YOU WILL, BY PARKING FROM VILLAGE HALL ROAD INTO THE PARK, IS CREATING THIS REALLY NICE LANDSCAPED PROMENADE TO AND FROM THE PARK FROM THE STREET. SO AGAIN, WE DON'T YOU KNOW, WE DON'T THINK EITHER ONE OF THESE PLANS IS BETTER OR WORSE THAN THE OTHER. AND WE FEEL THEY'RE BOTH REALLY WELL CONNECTED. SO YOU STILL HAVE A GREAT CONNECTION TO THE VILLAGE HALL, MUCH LIKE YOU HAVE TODAY. GREAT PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION IN AND OUT OF THE PARK. AND THE POLICE AGAIN, A LITTLE BIT OFF SCREEN, HAVE GREAT ACCESS TO THEIR BUILDING FACILITIES. SO OKAY, SAME VIEW SPOT, BUT NOW YOU'RE STANDING, YOU'RE NOT IN THE DRONE ANYMORE. YOU'RE LOOKING LET'S START AT THE SURFACE PARKING ON THIS SIDE. SO WHAT YOU SEE IS THAT PROMENADE WALKING INTO THE PARK AND THEN BEHIND A HEDGEROW, MAYBE A BRICK WALL. YOU SEE THOSE PARKED CARS THERE AND YOU HAVE SOME PARKED CARS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE PROMENADE. AND THEN ON THE UNDERGROUND PARKING SOLUTION, YOU HAVE PARK FRONTAGE ALL ALONG VILLAGE HALL ROAD AND VETERANS MEMORIAL, JUST BEYOND THE SORT OF INITIAL LANDSCAPE THERE, THIS ONE LOOKS A LITTLE BIT MORE LUSH IN TERMS OF LANDSCAPING, BECAUSE WE JUST WANTED TO DO A LITTLE BIT OF SCREENING OF THE PARKING BETWEEN THE STREET AND THE AND THE PARKING LOT ITSELF. OKAY. NEXT TO YOU IS SORT OF FROM THE WESTERN SIDE OF THE SITE. SO BULL'S EYE IS RIGHT HERE. YOU'RE LOOKING THAT WAY INTO THE PARK.

SO IN THIS CASE YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE SURFACE PARKING LOT, THE SORT OF, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO POINT AT HERE, BUT THE POLICE STATION IS SORT OF JUST OFF SCREEN HERE. AND THEN ON THE UNDERGROUND PARKING SOLUTION, THIS LOOKS A LITTLE BIGGER ON THE SCREEN THAN IT WOULD REALLY BE, BUT THIS WOULD BE THAT STAIR TOWER IN THE BACK CORNER. THEY COULD SEE UP AND DOWN OUT OF THE GARAGE AND YOU'RE OVERLOOKING THE PARK. AND HERE'S THOSE WALLS SURROUNDING VETERANS MEMORIAL.

AND I JUST WANT TO EMPHASIZE THIS IS A LITTLE BIGGER THAN IT WOULD REALLY BE. IT SORT OF LOOKS LIKE A REAL DOMINANT STRUCTURE THERE, BUT THAT'S JUST SORT OF A LITTLE BIT OF GEOMETRY THAT'S MAKING IT LOOK BIGGER THAN IT REALLY IS HERE. BUT AGAIN, BOTH VERY NICE LANDSCAPED EDGES SCHEME TO SCHEME. OKAY THEN THIS VIEW IS JUST LOOKING KIND OF STRAIGHT BACK THROUGH THE PARK, ALMOST ALONG THE POLICE STATION ON THE SORT OF FAR EASTERN SIDE OF THE SITE. SO IN THIS CASE YOU HAVE A LANDSCAPE EDGE ALONG THE POLICE STATION. AND IN THIS CASE HERE, THE SURFACE PARKING, YOU'VE GOT AN ACCESS IN AND OUT OF THE OUT OF THE PARKING LOT AND THE.

PARKING ACCESS. SO AGAIN, JUST A SIDE BY SIDE TO SORT OF REMIND OURSELVES WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.

SURFACE PARKING HERE, 160 SPACES, UNDERGROUND PARKING HERE WITH ACCESS IN AND OUT OF THE GARAGE HERE AND AUTO COURT HERE AT ABOUT 178 SPACES. ANY QUESTIONS OR THOUGHTS ABOUT THE? NO GOOD THERE. I'M DOING A GOOD JOB OR I'M BORING YOU TO DEATH. YOU'RE DOING A GOOD JOB. BOTH.

NO, YOU'RE DOING A GOOD JOB. JUST A FEW THINGS TO CONSIDER HERE, ADRIAN. I DON'T KNOW IF

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MAYBE OVER TIME, YOU KNOW A PARKING LOT IS A LITTLE EASIER TO MANAGE AND MAINTAIN THAN THE PARKING STRUCTURE. SO I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD CONSIDER PLAN TO PLAN. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THIS IS SORT OF, YOU KNOW, ADMINISTRATIVE IN NATURE. BUT TODAY THE VILLAGE CENTER CODE DOESN'T REALLY ALLOW FOR A PARKING LOT IN THIS WAY, DAYLIGHTING ITSELF OUT TO THE STREETS. SO WE WANT TO GET ARB APPROVAL TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT FOR THE GARAGE PARKING SCHEME OR THE UNDERGROUND PARKING. YOU KNOW, THE WHAT WE REALLY GAIN IS THAT ADDITIONAL ACRE AND A HALF OR 1.2 ACRES OF PARK AND THE FRONTAGE OUT TO VILLAGE HALL ROAD SO THAT, YOU KNOW, THE ENTIRE CAMPUS, IF YOU WILL, IS ENVELOPED IN THE PARK. WE LIKE THAT A LOT. AND YOU KNOW, FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH, IS A NICE COMPLIMENT TO THE EIGHT ACRES OF PARKING ACROSS THE STREET AT MARKET SQUARE. IN THIS CASE, WE REALLY HAVE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO SEPARATELY SEQUESTER THE POLICE PARKING AND THEIR FACILITIES, PLAN TO PLAN OR SIDE TO SIDE. BUT LIKE I SAID, I DO THINK WE CAN DO THAT IN BOTH PLANS. SO I DON'T THINK THAT SHOULD BE SOMETHING THAT HINDERS US. CERTAINLY THE UNDERGROUND PARKING IS A LITTLE BIT MORE EXPENSIVE, BUT WE DO GET MORE OPEN SPACE FOR THE COMMUNITY. VETERANS MEMORIAL GETS A BIGGER SORT OF SENSE OF PROMINENCE IN THE PARK. OTHERWISE, I THINK THAT'S SORT OF, YOU KNOW, I THINK I'VE SAID EVERYTHING ALREADY OUTSIDE OF, YOU KNOW, I'M A LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT. SO I'LL SAY THIS I'M EXCITED TO PRESERVE GREEN SPACE IN THE VILLAGE CENTER AND BUILD ON THIS AMAZING LEGACY THAT YOU GUYS HAVE ALL BEEN SUCH A HUGE PART OF WITH ROSE ROAD. SO ANYWAY, WITH THAT, WHAT IF WE HANG ON THESE PLANS AND CLICK AROUND, OPEN IT UP FOR Q&A? YEAH, WE HAVE FULL SIZE IMAGES OF ANY OF THE BIRD'S EYE VIEW OR THE PERSPECTIVE DRAWINGS. IF YOU WANT TO SEE ONE OF THOSE UP CLOSE. AND REALLY THOSE CONSIDERATIONS ARE THINGS THAT THE DESIGN TEAM CAME UP WITH AS WE KIND OF WENT THROUGH THIS PROCESS, I THINK, I THINK THIS WAS A GOOD STUDY FOR US TO LOOK AT KIND OF THE LONG TERM IMPLICATIONS OF THESE DECISIONS. AND THEN ALSO WHAT, YOU KNOW, THE PRACTICAL CONSIDERATIONS, AT THE SAME TIME, TRYING TO MEET THE PRINCIPLES THAT ARE VETERANS. FOCUS GROUP WANTED TO SEE OUT OF THE VETERANS MEMORIAL WHEN WE CONVENED THEM, YOU KNOW, WAY BACK IN 2020. SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR A LONG TIME, BUT I THINK WE HAVE TWO SCHEMES THAT REALLY IN DIFFERENT WAYS, BUT STILL HOLD TRUE TO SOME OF THOSE PRINCIPLES ABOUT MAKING THE VETERANS MEMORIAL ACCESSIBLE TO THE COMMUNITY, NOT HIDING IT AWAY BEHIND SOMETHING OR MAKING IT FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW, IT'S A YOU HAVE YOU THERE'S SOME BARRIERS TO TRY TO GET TO IT INSTEAD OF MAKING IT REALLY EASY TO ACCESS AND BE PART OF THE ROSE RUN CORRIDOR. SO AGAIN, WE'LL JUST BRING YOU BACK TO THOSE THREE DECISION POINTS THAT WILL KIND OF ALLOW US TO MOVE FORWARD WITH DESIGN AND THEN HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW, GET A SHOVEL IN THE GROUND BY THE END OF THIS YEAR BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN A LONG PROCESS SO FAR. THAT'S TALKING ABOUT IF A PAVILION SHOULD BE PART OF THIS OR NOT. CONFIRMING THE PROGRAM FOR VETERANS MEMORIAL AND THEN DECIDING ON WHAT THE PARKING OPTION SHOULD BE. YES. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S ALL I NEED TO HEAR. DO YOU WANT DO YOU WANT INPUT ON THE CHOICES? YEAH. WE WOULD LOVE DIRECTION ON THOSE THREE AREAS THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO MOVE FORWARD. GO AHEAD. YEAH OKAY. GREAT WORK. REALLY I THINK SOME GREAT DESIGNS. AND TO THE THREE POINTS THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT, I THINK THE PARKING UNDERGROUND I THINK CREATES A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY FOR MORE GREEN SPACE. I DO LIKE THAT WITH A FOCUS ON IT BEING ROSE RUN PARK. ET CETERA. AND UTILIZATION, I THINK ADDING MORE GREEN SPACE THERE IS A PLUS. I'M NOT AS PLEASED ABOUT MOVING VETERANS MEMORIAL DOWN THERE. I LIKE HOW IT'S SITUATED UP HERE WITH THE WAY THE PARTIAL WALL OR WHATEVER WE WANT TO CALL IT,

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I DON'T KNOW THAT WE WANT THAT TO BE THE ENTRYWAY IN OR THIS TO BE THE WAY THE ENTRY, YOU KNOW, THERE'S GOING TO BE MULTIPLE MULTIPLE ENTRY WAYS HERE. SO ALL THE FEATURES AND THINGS THAT YOU'VE SHOWN I LIKE THOSE WERE MY JUST INITIAL THOUGHTS. YEAH. ADRIAN, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE FIRST SLIDE WITH THE PAVILION OPTIONS? YEAH. YEAH. SO I THINK I THINK BATHROOMS SOMEWHERE IN THE PARK ARE A MUST. I THINK ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE BIGGEST COMPLIMENTS I GET AT TAYLOR FARM IS THOSE BATHROOMS. PEOPLE LOVE THE BATHROOMS REGULARLY, AND I HEAR ABOUT IT REGULARLY. I MEAN, I KNOW SOMEONE THAT LIVES IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WALKS TO THOSE BATHROOMS BEFORE HE DOES HIS RUN BECAUSE HE LIKES HIS BATHROOM BETTER THAN HIS HOUSE. SO GETS THINGS MOVING, YOU KNOW.

RIGHT. IS HE SHOWERING THERE TOO, OR SO IT IS A NEED. YOU KNOW, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT IN THE PAST. YOU KNOW, FOLKS THAT ARE WITH THE KIDS AND EVERYTHING AT ROSE RUN, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE EITHER GOING TO THE HEIGHT CENTER, THEY'RE GOING TO STARBUCKS. SO, YOU KNOW, I DO THINK WE NEED BATHROOMS. YOU KNOW, THE SHADE STRUCTURE I LIKE. AND IF IT BECOMES A GATHERING SPACE, LIKE, YOU KNOW, A FIRE PIT, SOMETHING JUST NOT OVERBEARING ON SCALE. AND THEN I THINK, I MEAN, RATHER THAN LIKE THE KIOSK, IF WE PLAN A PLACE FOR FOOD TRUCKS TO HOOK UP, YOU KNOW, AND HAVE POWER AND MAYBE A PAD THERE OR SOMETHING WHERE YOU CAN BRING IN A COFFEE TRUCK OR AN ICE CREAM TRUCK OR A FOOD TRUCK FOR OUR EVENTS IF WE'RE DOING, YOU KNOW, PARADES OR WHATEVER. SO WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A PERMANENT KIOSK STRUCTURE WITH, YOU KNOW, TO SERVE PEOPLE.

I MEAN, I, I LIKE IT ON THAT CORNER BECAUSE IT IS A POPULATED CORNER. AND AS LONG AS IT'S THE SCALE IS NOT OVERBEARING, I DO THINK IT'LL SERVE AS KIND OF A GATEWAY TO GET INTO THE PARK AND KIND OF FOCAL POINT THAT THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THE ENTRANCE TO, TO THE PARK TO GET IN AND DRAW YOUR EYE TO IT. SO I LIKE THE A SUBTLE, YOU KNOW, SHADE STRUCTURE WITH THE BATHROOM AND POTENTIAL FIREPLACE JUST AS A GATHERING AREA, AND THEN MAYBE OPPORTUNITY FOR FOOD TRUCKS AND EVERYTHING. AS FAR AS THE PARKING, I MEAN, IF MONEY WAS NO OBJECT, I DON'T KNOW ANYBODY THAT DOESN'T LIKE THE UNDERGROUND STRUCTURE. KEEPING PRESERVING PARK SPACE IN, YOU KNOW, VILLAGE CENTER IS PARAMOUNT. IT JUST BECOMES AT WHAT COST. AND SO ORDER OF MAGNITUDE COST IS IT'S ABOUT $12 MILLION MORE TO DO UNDERGROUND PARKING. WHICH IS WHY I'M NOT INTO IT. YEAH, THAT'S A LOT I MEAN I YEAH. I'M SORRY. YOU WANT TO FINISH CASEY IF YOU'RE NOT WELL, I MEAN, I THINK, YOU KNOW, UNTIL WE SOLVE THAT AND DECIDE WHERE WE'RE GOING WITH THE PARKING STRUCTURE, THEN THE YOUR SECOND QUESTION, THE PROGRAMING AND YOU KNOW, THE LAYOUT, YOU KNOW, THAT KIND OF TAKES CARE OF ITSELF, RIGHT? RIGHT. SO I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S THE DISCUSSION WE NEED TO HAVE IS I LOVE UNDERGROUND PARKING. BUT FOR $12 MILLION. YEAH. I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE A LOT OF MONEY. THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY. AND I DON'T I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD BE WHERE I WOULD INVEST $12 MILLION. IF WE HAVE A FUNCTIONAL OPTION, WHICH WOULD BE SURFACE

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AND AGAIN, THIS IS HIGH LEVEL. SO NOTHING IS DESIGNED. BUT BASED ON THOSE ADDITIONS THAT WERE SHOWN, THOSE WINGS WOULD GET THIS BUILDING TO ABOUT 29,000FT■!S. AND JUST TAKING OFF THAT TO RENOVATE THE EXISTING BUILDING AND THOSE ADDITIONS, I THINK THAT RANGE, IT WAS BETWEEN LIKE 7 MILLION AND A $10 MILLION RANGE THAT THEY GAVE US THAT IT WOULD COST TO DO THAT. SO IN A RANGE OF 7 TO $10 MILLION, WE COULD ADD 29,000FT■!S TO THIS BUILDING. ADDING 29 WOULD BE THE TOTAL. OH, I'M SORRY, 14,000 TO THIS BUILDING. AND HOW MUCH ARE WE LEASING RIGHT NOW IN OTHER PLACES FOR OUR STAFF? OH, IN TOTAL, I MEAN, I THINK RED ROOF IS AROUND 20, SO IT DOESN'T RESOLVE. EVERYONE WOULD FIT. I MEAN, WE DID A FIT TEST FOR IT. IT WOULD BE A DIFFERENT CONFIGURATION THAN WHAT PEOPLE ARE. YOU KNOW, USED TO WORKING IN IT DID INCLUDE AN ENTIRE WING FOR PUBLIC SPACE. SO IT WOULD WHICH WOULD HAVE A SEPARATE ENTRY. SO THERE'S LIKE A TRAINING ROOM THAT COULD BE DIVIDED INTO TWO ROOMS, A LARGE CONFERENCE ROOM AND A RESTROOM.

SO YOU COULD HAVE PUBLIC MEETINGS HERE, LOCK OFF THE OFFICE PORTION AND JUST HAVE PEOPLE COME AND GO FROM CHAMBERS TO TRAININGS TO PUBLIC, OTHER PUBLIC MEETINGS TO CONFERENCES IN THE PUBLIC WING. SO WE WENT THAT WAY. DOES THAT NOW CREATE ANOTHER PARKING ISSUE? DO WE NOW NEED MORE PARKING THAN WE ACCOUNTED FOR. AND THAT'S OFF HOURS. SO LIKE AFTER 8 TO 5 THERE'S A LOT OF SPACES IN THE SURFACE LOT OPTION. BUT YOU'RE BRINGING MORE EMPLOYEES BACK. SO RIGHT. DO YOU NEED MORE PARKING FOR THE EMPLOYEES? THAT'S ALL. OKAY. THAT'S THE 176 OKAY. 160 OKAY. IF I, I REALLY DO LOVE THE PAVILION IDEA. IT REMINDS ME OF A PAVILION IN MINNEAPOLIS THAT I THINK WAS ACTUALLY LIKE A SALT BARN AT ONE POINT TO KIND OF KEEP THE SALT DOWNTOWN BECAUSE THEY NEED IT SO OFTEN. BUT I THINK THAT IT IS A IT WE REALLY NEED A LOT OF GATHERING SPACES.

LIKE I THINK ABOUT WHERE WE HAVE OUR GIRL SCOUT TROOP MEETING WHEN IT WAS NICE OUT, YOU KNOW, PLACES THAT PEOPLE MIGHT COME TO CELEBRATE A BIRTHDAY. I THINK HAVING A CENTRAL PLACE, LIKE A PLACE LIKE THAT CENTRAL IN THE CITY, BATHROOMS ARE A MUST. WE KNOW THAT BATHROOMS ARE SO EXPENSIVE. THAT'S PROBABLY A VERY LARGE PART OF THAT PROJECTED COST FOR THE PAVILION.

SO I THINK IT WOULD REALLY I FEEL REALLY STRONGLY THAT IT SHOULD BE A PART OF THIS PROJECT, COULD REALLY ADD SOME VALUE TO IT. WELL, I DON'T THINK $1 MILLION MAKES OR BREAKS IT,

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THAT MIGHT EVEN BE SO I THINK PUTTING SOME SORT OF STRUCTURE THERE IS NOT A BAD IDEA. SO WHATEVER THAT LOOKS LIKE, I DEFINITELY THINK THAT'S PROBABLY A GOOD CORNER TO DO IT. OR MAYBE THE OTHER CORNER, WHICHEVER ONE. BUT I LIKE THAT ONE BETTER. I LIKE THE UNDERGROUND PARKING. I THINK THERE'S EVERYONE ON THIS PROBABLY COUNCIL LOVES THAT UNDERGROUND AND I'M PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT MORE OPEN TO IT. IT SOUNDS LIKE THAN THAN MAYBE SOME OF MY OTHER PEERS HERE ON THE BENCH. BUT THAT PRICE TAG, IF WE CAN EXPAND THIS BUILDING WITH THAT MONEY AND NOT LOSE SPACES WITH THE ADDITIONAL SQUARE FOOTAGE, I DON'T KNOW HOW. I DON'T KNOW HOW I CAN SUPPORT AN UNDERGROUND, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? SO IF YOU CAN GO BACK TO THE SLIDE WITH THE PAVILIONS, BECAUSE I WANT TO TOUCH ON SOMETHING MIKE HAD SAID, THERE YOU GO, RIGHT THERE. MIKE HAD MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT MOVING, YOU KNOW, MOVING. EVEN IF WE WENT WITH THE UNDERGROUND, MAYBE MOVING THE WHOLE VETERANS MEMORIAL UP A LITTLE BIT. AND I AGREE, MIKE, 100%. I THINK THAT LOOKS GREAT. AND ORIGINALLY I LIKED IT BECAUSE YOUR BOTTOM THREE SLIDES ARE SOMETHING THAT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE SOMEWHERE IN THERE. TO ANDREA'S POINT, ABOUT A POINT ABOUT HAVING MORE OPEN SPACE, MEETING SPACE, SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE. AND IF IN FACT, COUNCIL DECIDES, LET'S GO WITH THE SURFACE PARKING. IS THERE A WAY TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT WHERE WE COULD HAVE AN AREA OF GATHERING SPACE, MUCH LIKE WE HAVE WITH ROSE RUN ONE RIGHT NOW, WHERE IT'S KIND OF UP ABOVE THE CREEKS, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S ON THE BRIDGE OR IN OTHER PLACES. I KNOW THE LIBRARY HELPS BECAUSE THAT WHOLE AREA IS A GREAT LITTLE MEETING PLACE. I'M THINKING, IS THERE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD DO WITH THAT? STILL WITH THE SPACE, BUT NOT GIVING UP, YOU KNOW, ANY OF THE, YOU KNOW, THE VA THINGS THAT WE HAVE IN THERE. AND I DO LIKE IT FOR FINALLY, FOR THE LAST REASON, WHEN I GREW UP, THEY USED TO HAVE WHEN I WAS OLDER, BUT UP IN THE NORTHWEST OHIO AREA IN TOLEDO, THEY ALWAYS HAD THIS PARTY IN THE PARK. I THINK IT WAS ONE OF THOSE BIG THINGS IN THE 80S AND 90S THAT EVERYONE WAS DOING. AND I KIND OF SEE THAT TO CASEY'S POINT ABOUT IF WE COULD BRING IN WHETHER IT'S ICE CREAM TRUCKS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WHERE WE COULD REALLY MAKE THIS A NICE, FESTIVE SMALL TOWN FEEL, WHICH WE'VE BEEN REALLY TRYING TO STRIVE FOR. AND I THINK THIS EVEN HITS ON THAT, AS WELL AS THE WHOLE VA PURPOSE THAT WE'RE DOING. SO THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS ON THE WHOLE WHOLE PROJECT. YEAH. JUST TO ADDRESS THAT LAST POINT, I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO BE, YOU KNOW, RESPECTFUL AND A LITTLE BIT MORE QUIET AROUND THE MEMORIAL.

RIGHT. AND WE ALSO DON'T WANT TO BE SO OUTLANDISH AND, YOU KNOW, LOSE THAT SMALL TOWN FEEL UP ALONG DUBLIN-GRANVILLE ROAD. BUT I DO THINK THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY TO GET THAT VARIETY OF SEATING AND, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC ENERGY ALONG THE STREET THERE THAT REALLY GIVES YOU SOMETHING TO DO ON A FESTIVAL DAY OR DAY. NORTH, NORTH OF THE OF ROSE RUN, MAYBE IN THAT AREA MIGHT NOT. I THINK THAT MIGHT BE A REALLY, REALLY GOOD SPOT. AS WELL AS THE PROMENADE. YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT PRETTY NICE AS WELL. YEAH. OKAY. THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS. NOT TO I KNOW WE'VE GONE OVER THIS SO MANY TIMES, BUT IN MUDDY THE WATERS. BUT I MEAN, WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS PARCEL IN AND OF ITSELF AND WE ALL UNDERSTAND THAT JUST SOUTH OF VILLAGE HALL ROAD, THERE'S GOING TO BE DEVELOPMENT AND NEEDS FOR PARKING AT SOME POINT. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS YET, BUT, YOU KNOW, IF INSTEAD OF SPENDING $12 MILLION TO GO UNDERGROUND TO PRESERVE ONE ACRE

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THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT. WE ARE STILL UNDER HEARING OF VISITORS. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE

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SO I'M SURE IT'S NO SURPRISE TO EVERYBODY HERE. WE REALLY DON'T HAVE ANY TRAIL SIGNAGE. I KNOW WE HAVE SOME BOLLARDS SOMEWHERE, BUT THAT I DON'T THINK THAT REALLY COUNTS. AND AFTER DOING ALL OF THE GREAT PARK IMPROVEMENTS, INCLUDING TAYLOR FARM PARK, WHAT WE REALIZE IS THAT WE SORT OF HAVE A MISMATCH. THERE'S NO REAL COHESIVENESS BETWEEN, YOU KNOW, THE TYPES OF SIGNS AND WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY. SO WE HAVE HIRED MCCSC, AND THEY'VE PARTNERED WITH A FIRM CALLED HOLDEN ELLISON. AND SO THERE'S SOME REPRESENTATIVES FROM HERE TONIGHT TO GO THROUGH SOME BRANDING. BUT WHAT THIS PLAN WILL DO AT THE END OF THE DAY IS THAT IT WILL PROVIDE A COHESIVE FAMILY OF PARK AND TRAILS SIGN PLANS. SO THE GOAL IS WHEN THIS PLAN IS ALL SAID AND DONE, WE'LL HAVE A FULL FAMILY OF SIGNAGE. SO WHEN PEOPLE ARE ON A NEW ALBANY TRAIL OR IN A NEW ALBANY PARK, THEY'LL KNOW FROM THE SIGNAGE THAT THEY'RE IN THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY AND THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY'LL KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THEY ARE IN RELATION TO OTHER PARKS AND THE VILLAGE CENTER AS WELL. AND THIS ALSO WILL BECOME A TOOL FOR NOT ONLY CITY STAFF, BUT ALSO FOR DEVELOPERS, BECAUSE THIS WILL ALSO INCLUDE CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS AS WELL.

SO THE GOAL IS WE CAN JUST HAND THIS OUT FROM HERE ON IN. SO IT TAKES ALL THE GUESSWORK OUT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE STAYING CONSISTENT. SO WE'VE HAD A LOT OF FUN WORKING WITH HOLDEN. AND ALSO ABBY AND JARED ARE HERE. SO JUST REAL QUICK. SO HOLDEN ELLIS IS I THINK TO CALL THEM A GRAPHIC DESIGN FIRM WOULD BE UNDERSTATING NOT I MEAN REALLY WHAT THEY ARE IS A BRAND STRATEGY EXPERT GROUP THAT SPECIALIZES IN IN VISUAL IDENTITY. AND SO MCCSC HAS BEEN HELPING US OUT WITH THE PARK OR I'M SORRY, WITH THE SIGN DESIGN THEMSELVES, BUT HOLDEN ELLIS HAS BEEN DOING THE BRANDING WORK. AND SO THEY'RE TONIGHT THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE YOU THROUGH TO PROVIDE SOME CONTEXT, A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE SIGN TYPES. BUT REALLY THE MAIN I GUESS FEATURE FOR TONIGHT IS THE BRANDING. SO THEY HAVE SOME OPTIONS. AND WHAT WE'RE HOPING TO GET FROM COUNCIL TONIGHT IS CONSENSUS. AND LET US KNOW WHICH OF THREE OPTIONS YOU GUYS LIKE THE BEST OUT OF ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT BRANDS FOR OUR PARKS AND TRAILS, SIGNAGE. AND JUST A FAST QUESTION. THIS ALSO INCLUDES POCKET PARKS THAT WE ALL UPDATED AS WELL. THE SIGNAGE FOR THEM. THAT'S RIGHT. YEAH.

THE GOAL IS THAT THIS COULD BE USED THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE CITY FOR A VARIETY OF PARKS. SO WITH THAT, I'LL HAND IT OFF TO ABBY AND JARED HERE. AND THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH. GREATER THAN SQUARE WHICH I'VE NEVER USED THE CLICKER THIS. OH ALL RIGHT. THIS IS COOL. HI. MY NAME IS JARED.

I'M A PARTNER AND CREATIVE DIRECTOR AT HOLDEN ELLIS. THANKS TO JEFF AND HIS TEAM AT MCCSC FOR BRINGING US ON. AND THANKS FOR THE INTRO. SO YEAH, WE'RE WE WERE BROUGHT ON TO TALK ABOUT BRANDS. NEW ALBANY HAS A REALLY, REALLY STRONG BRAND. IT'S BEEN REALLY FUN TO WORK IN. AND PART OF THIS PROJECT FOR US WAS REALLY ABOUT COHESION. HOW DO WE TAKE A LOOK AT ALL THE DIFFERENT PARKS AND ALL THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF SIGNS AND ALL THE DIFFERENT PARKS, AND MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S CONSISTENCY? THE IDEA THERE IS THAT THAT CREATES AN EXPERIENCE THAT'S SIMILAR NO MATTER WHAT PARK YOU'RE GOING TO. AND SO YOU KIND OF HAVE THIS EXPERIENCE WHENEVER YOU'RE IN ANY PARK IN NEW ALBANY, YOU KNOW WHERE TO GO. YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR AND YOU KIND OF KNOW WHERE YOU ARE. SO THAT'S THAT'S A LITTLE BIT WHAT THIS PROJECT IS ABOUT. SO FIRST WE'LL GO THROUGH QUICKLY SIGNAGE TYPES AND LOCATIONS. THERE'S A LOT THERE'S A LOT OF RESEARCH THAT MCCSC DID. AND WALKING AROUND AND LOOKING AT ALL THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF PARK SIGNAGE. SO THERE'S ID SIGNAGE. THERE'S A FEW DIFFERENT TYPES OF SIGNAGE HERE. THIS GOES FROM LIKE PRIMARY SIGNAGE AT THE FRONT OF THESE PARKS THAT HAS THE PARK NAME ON IT ALL THE WAY TO THESE LIKE TERTIARY, SMALLER ID SIGNS THAT ARE VIEWED BY PEDESTRIANS AND IDENTIFIES OTHER ELEMENTS TOO WITHIN THE PARK. SO THIS IS ONE TYPE OF ID SIGNAGE THAT'S INCLUDED IN THIS BRANDING IDENTITY PACKAGE MAP SIGNAGE IS ANOTHER ONE. SO A LOT OF THESE PARKS HAVE LARGER MAPS THAT GIVE YOU THE LAY OF THE LAND FOR THE PARK. THIS PRIMARY MAP IS ONE OF THEM. THERE ARE SECONDARY AND SMALLER MAPS AS WELL, AND THEN CIPHER SYSTEM MAPS. SO THIS WOULD BE INCLUDED IN THE SCOPE AS WELL. AND YOU'LL START TO SEE AS WE GO THROUGH ALL THESE SIGNS TOO, THERE'S DISTINCTION BETWEEN THEM, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE DIFFERENT TYPES, DIFFERENT COLORS, DIFFERENT LAYOUTS. AND SO THAT'S KIND OF PART OF THIS IS TO TAKE THE LAY OF THE LAND OF ALL THESE SIGNS AND BRING A SYSTEM TOGETHER TO MAKE THEM MORE COHESIVE. SO THESE ARE SOME DIRECTIONAL SIGNAGE. THERE'S PRIMARY DIRECTIONAL, SECONDARY AND VEHICULAR DIRECTIONAL SIGNAGE, ALL INCLUDED IN THE SCOPE HERE TO HELP PEOPLE GET TO DESTINATIONS AND HOW TO MAKE DECISIONS WITHIN THE SPACE.

THERE'S REGULATORY SIGNAGE AS WELL FOR ALL OF THESE PARKS, INTERPRETIVE SIGNAGE. A LOT OF

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AND AS YOU SAW IN PREVIOUS SLIDES, YOU GET A WHOLE DIFFERENT BRAND AND A DIFFERENT KIND OF VIBE FOR EACH ONE OF THOSE DIFFERENT SIGN TYPES. AND SO OUR JOB WAS TO COME IN AND TAKE THOSE SIGNS AND CREATE KIND OF A SYSTEM THAT WE COULD USE TO DEVELOP SIGNAGE FOR ANY PARK ACROSS NEW ALBANY AND GIVE IT KIND OF A CONSISTENT LOOK AND FEEL. SO THIS IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR TAYLOR FARM PARK AND THEN ROSE RUN PARK AS WELL. LESS SIGNS HERE, BUT YOU STILL SEE THE VARIETY OF SIGNAGE AROUND ROSE RUN PARK. IT'S ALL KIND OF INCLUDED IN THIS SCOPE.

SO OUR PART OF THE PROJECT WAS TO COME IN AND LOOK AT NEW ALBANY'S BRANDS AND FIGURE OUT HOW WE CREATE A SIGNAGE SYSTEM, AND HOW DO WE DO THAT WITHIN THE BRAND. AND THE TASK WAS TO THINK ABOUT THE EXPRESSION OF NEW ALBANY AS A BRAND AND FIGURE OUT HOW IT WOULD APPLY TO THE PARKS.

SO THE FIRST THING WE DID WAS THIS EXERCISE, LIKE BRAND PERSONALITY. AND WHAT WE LOOKED AT WAS WHERE NEW ALBANY'S KIND OF CORE BRAND EXISTED ALONG THESE BRAND PERSONALITY SPECTRUM SLIDERS. SO ALL BRANDS KIND OF HAVE A DISTINCT PERSONALITY. NEITHER SIDE IS RIGHT OR WRONG.

IT JUST KIND OF GIVES YOU, YOU KNOW, A FEEL FOR WHAT THE BRAND IS. SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT NEW ALBANY'S CORE BRAND, IT MAYBE LEANS A LITTLE BIT MORE CONSERVATIVE VERSUS A LITTLE BIT MORE MODERN. AND THAT'S INDICATED BY THE BLUE X. SO WHAT WE DID HERE WAS WE DID AN EXERCISE WHERE WE CAME IN AND PLOTTED OUT WHERE WE THOUGHT NEW ALBANY'S CORE BRAND WAS WITH THESE BLUE X'S. AND THEN WE DID A SIMILAR EXERCISE WHERE WE SAID, HOW, HOW DO WE WANT THE PARKS TO EXPRESS THEMSELVES? IS THERE IS THERE A SPACE FOR DIFFERENTIATION THAT STILL FITS WITHIN THE NEW ALBANY BRAND, BUT MAYBE IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT BASED ON, YOU KNOW, IT BEING A PARK. AND SO THAT'S WHAT YOU SEE WITH THESE RED X'S. SO IN CERTAIN AREAS WE'RE MATCHING UP EXACTLY WITH WHERE THE NEW ALBANY BRAND EXISTS. SO YOU KNOW, WE'RE KIND OF RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE BETWEEN SAFE AND BOLD. WE'RE A LITTLE MORE TRUSTWORTHY THAN TRENDY. WE'RE A LITTLE MORE SIMPLE VERSUS COMPLEX. AGAIN, NONE OF THESE IS RIGHT OR WRONG, JUST KIND OF AN INDICATOR OF WHERE THE BRAND IS. BUT THEN WE ALSO FOUND THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES WHERE WE COULD BE MAYBE A LITTLE BIT MORE DIFFERENTIATED. SO IF YOU'RE IN A PARK, MAYBE THE PARK SHOULD BE A LITTLE BIT MORE APPROACHABLE. OR IF YOU'RE IN A PARK, MAYBE IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE MODERN, OR MAYBE IT'S A LITTLE MORE DISTINCT. SO THOSE ARE THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH THE TEAM ON AND TRYING TO TEASE OUT WHEN WE CREATE SIGNS AND WE COME UP WITH A BRAND FOR THE FOR THE PARKS AND TRAILS. HOW DO WE FIT WITHIN THE CORE CONCEPT OF NEW ALBANY'S BRAND? BECAUSE IT'S A VERY STRONG BRAND, BUT ALSO PROVIDES SOME OF THAT DISTINCTION. AND OUR GOAL IS ACTUALLY TO CREATE A SYSTEM BOTH FOR MESSAGING AND VISUAL IDENTITY. THAT IS, THAT IS A SYSTEM. SO IT'S A, YOU KNOW, WE DO IT ONCE AND YOU CAN APPLY IT ANYWHERE. AND SO THESE THREE CONCEPTS KIND OF ALIGN WITH THESE DIFFERENT TYPES OF BRAND ARCHITECTURES. SO THE FIRST CONCEPT IS A CONCEPT THAT IS A MONOLITHIC BRAND ARCHITECTURE. IT FITS EXACTLY WITHIN THE CORE NEW ALBANY BRAND. THERE'S NOT A LOT OF DISTINCTION BETWEEN THE NEW ALBANY BRAND AND THE PARK SUBBRAND. SO IT'S JUST KIND OF EXTENDING THAT SYSTEM FOR THE SIGNAGE. THE SECOND CONCEPT WE'LL SHOW YOU IS SIMILAR, BUT THEY'RE LIKE GOOGLE. YOU GET A LITTLE BIT OF DISTINCTION WITHIN A MONOLITHIC, MONOLITHIC BRAND. THIS ONE IS BASED ON PRODUCTS, BUT FOR NEW ALBANY, IT'S HOW DO WE FIND SOME DISTINCTION WITHIN THE BRAND TO CREATE DIFFERENTIATION. AND THEN THIRD CONCEPT IS THE FARTHEST APART. AND THAT'S WHERE YOU GET KIND OF A DISTINCT SUBBRAND FOR THE PARKS. SO IT STILL FITS WITHIN NEW ALBANY BRAND, BUT IT IS QUITE DISTINCT FROM THE STANDARD NEW ALBANY BRAND. SO THOSE ARE THE THREE THAT WE'RE GOING TO GO OVER FIRST. WE'LL KIND OF GO THROUGH THIS QUICKLY. YOU'LL HAVE ACCESS TO THIS SO YOU CAN READ IT THROUGH. BUT WE STARTED WITH THINKING ABOUT LIKE WHAT THE BRAND FOR THE PARKS IS. WHAT ARE THE SUBBRANDS? IF THE PARK IS A SUBBRAND, WHAT DOES IT SAY? WHAT'S THE NARRATIVE AROUND IT? AND I THINK THE KEY HERE WAS THAT WE WANTED THE MESSAGE. IT'S TIME TO LET THE OUTSIDE IN, TO KIND OF RESONATE THROUGHOUT ALL OF THE DIFFERENT COMMUNICATIONS ABOUT THE PARKS. THIS IDEA OF CONNECTION AND BEING OUTSIDE.

AND SO THIS IS WHERE WE STARTED WITH THE BRAND NARRATIVE. AND THEN WE ALSO BUILT KIND OF A VOICE AND TONE THAT ATTACHES TO THE NEW ALBANY BRANDS, THE SPECIFIC TO THE PARKS. SO WHEN

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SO YOU'RE NOT GOING TOTALLY AWAY FROM THE NEW ALBANY BRAND, BUT YOU'RE PROVIDING A LOT MORE SPACE FOR DIFFERENTIATION WITHIN THAT BRAND. AND IN THIS ONE, WE CREATED A CUSTOM MARQUE AND USED SOME CUSTOM TYPEFACES TO CREATE AN ACTUAL PARKS OF NEW ALBANY BRAND. SO THIS CONCEPT IS ABOUT WHAT'S INSIDE THE PARK. SO WE KIND OF TOOK THAT FENCE CONCEPT, AND WE TIED IT WITH THIS NATURAL ELEMENT TO KIND OF GIVE YOU THIS SENSE OF LIKE, THERE'S SOMETHING KIND OF INSIDE THE PARK WORTH EXPLORING. AND THIS MARK WOULD BE CARRIED KIND OF ACROSS THE DIFFERENT PARKS ECOSYSTEM. WE'VE ADDED A DARKER GREEN COLOR PALLET COLOR TO THE PALLET HERE TO REALLY PULL IN SOME OF THE NATURAL LIKE FEEL. AND THEN WE'VE CREATED SOME BADGES AS WELL WITH THIS ONE. SO THIS IS A DISTINCT MARK FOR THE PARKS OF NEW ALBANY. AND THEN WE HAVE VERSIONS THAT SHOW HOW IT WOULD WORK WITH THE DIFFERENT PARK NAMES. HOW WOULD IT EXTEND THROUGHOUT THE DIFFERENT COMMUNICATIONS. AND THIS ONE PROVIDES THE MOST DISTINCTION FOR THE PARKS BRAND. AND THIS IS A LOOK AT HOW WE CAN PULL IN SOME OF THOSE SAME ICONS FROM THE SECOND CONCEPT, AND STILL USE THE PARKS OF NEW ALBANY AS LIKE A MARK AND IDENTIFIER WITH THE CUSTOM FONTS AND SOME CUSTOM COLORS AS WELL. SO THREE CONCEPTS. THE IDEA HERE IS WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE A SYSTEM BOTH FROM A MESSAGING PERSPECTIVE AND FROM A VISUAL PERSPECTIVE, THAT WE COULD TAKE AND DIRECTLY APPLY TO EVERY PIECE OF SIGNAGE AND EVERY PARK ACROSS NEW ALBANY. AND THE NICE THING ABOUT THAT IS IT CREATES COHESION. IT GIVES EVERY SINGLE PARK A TYPE OF LIKE FLAVOR AND BRAND AND EXPERIENCE THAT'S CONSISTENT. AND IT ALSO MAKES IT MUCH EASIER TO PRODUCE BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT GUESSING ABOUT WHAT COLORS TO USE OR WHAT TYPES OF SIGNS TO USE, OR ANY TYPES OF FONTS. THAT'S ALL KIND OF A PACKAGE THAT THEN ANYBODY THAT'S WORKING ON SIGNAGE FOR THAT NEW PARK OR, YOU KNOW,

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SO I MEAN, I DO LIKE THE IDEA OF A BRAND LOGO. I DON'T THINK IT HAS TO BE A DIFFERENT ONE FOR EVERY, EVERY PARK, BUT SO MAYBE A COMBINATION OF FOR ME, CONCEPT ONE AND THREE, YOU KNOW, HAVE SOMETHING THAT BRANDS IT. BUT STILL I MEAN I DO LIKE THE TRADITIONAL NEW ALBANY LOGOS AND STUFF. SO I JUST WANT TO SHOW THIS. I SHOULD HAVE SAID I PREFER THE TRADITIONAL COLORS THOUGH, THAT WE, OUR PARK AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT JUST WENT THROUGH A BIG BRANDING EXERCISE AND THEY'VE NOW BEEN REBRANDED AND THEY KIND OF HAVE THE NEW ALBANY PARKS AND RECREATION. BUT THE NEW ALBANY IS VERY SMALL, SO IT JUST HAS PARKS AND RECREATION. AND IF WE DID, MY RECOMMENDATION IS IF WE DID DO SOMETHING WITH THAT CONCEPT. THREE I THINK WE PROBABLY NEED TO TRY TO DIFFERENTIATE A LITTLE BIT FROM PARKS AND RECREATION. SO MAYBE ON ITS OWN, WHERE IT SAYS PARKS OF NEW ALBANY, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THAT HAS TO BE DIFFERENTIATED SOMEHOW. AND THEY WENT WITH THE SAME COLOR SCHEME AND EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE PROPOSED UP THERE. SO I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT FITS IN, BUT JUST MAKING YOU AWARE, IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THAT, I'M SURE YOU HAVE.

THAT'S A GOOD POINT. I THINK DIFFERENTIATING THE BLUE PARKS, I LIKE THE BLUE TOO. YEAH, I AGREE, AND I THINK PARKS OF NEW ALBANY IS JUST SOPHISTICATED ENOUGH. AND DIFFERENTIATING FROM NEW ALBANY PARKS AND REC. SO OUR FORMER COMMUNICATION. LEAD, SCOTT MCAFEE, PROBABLY WENT INTO EARLY RETIREMENT AFTER WE WENT THROUGH THE LAST BRANDING. PROCESS. AND I THINK MIKE DURKIN, I PROBABLY PUSHED HIM OVER THE EDGE WHEN IT FINALLY LANDED. I DON'T KNOW, I THINK EXACTLY WHAT WE DID, BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S AMAZING THE EFFORT AND THOUGHT AND REVISIONS THAT WENT INTO THE BRAND THAT WE HAVE. IT WAS IT WAS A LONG PROCESS. SO IT'S, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S FAIRLY RECOGNIZABLE. YOU KNOW, THE FLAG DESIGN, IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS YOU CAN SEE AT THE CORNER OF YOUR EYE, AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO ACTUALLY SEE IT TO KNOW WHAT IT IS. SO I THINK WHEN PEOPLE SEE THE LOGO, THEY MIGHT NOT EVEN TAKE THE TIME TO READ IT, BUT THEY VISUALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS IMMEDIATELY. I DON'T THINK WE WANT TO LOSE THAT DRAW, BUT I AGAIN, IF WE'RE JUST, YOU KNOW, CUTTING UP FRANKENSTEIN HERE AND SEWING IT BACK TOGETHER, I REALLY LIKE THE LOGO AND THE THIRD SET THAT HAS A VERY IDENTIFIED, YOU KNOW, GREEN FEATURE WITH THE RAILS BEHIND IT THAT AGAIN, WOULD DRAW MOST OF OUR USERS EYE TO IT AND SAY, OH, THAT'S NEW ALBANY. WHILE STILL NOT DIMINISHING THE COLOR SCHEME OR THE FONT THAT IDENTIFIES NEW ALBANY IN THE FIRST SET. BUT I DO THINK IF YOU COULD AGAIN, IF WE'RE JUST PIECING IT ALL TOGETHER, LOVE THE NEW ALBANY FEATURE AND COLORS IN THE FIRST, THE ICON IN THE THIRD, BUT THEN THE SORT OF UNIQUE FONT THAT DESIGNATES EACH PARK SEPARATELY FROM THE FONT THAT'S IN OUR IN OUR, YOU KNOW, DESIGN. SO WE'RE HAVING A LITTLE BIT MORE FUN WITH IT. WE'RE TAKING A LITTLE OUT OF THE CONTEXT OF OUR BRANDING. THE NEW ALBANY PARK ITSELF IS STILL, YOU KNOW, TRIED AND TRUE AS FAR AS THE FONT AND THE COLOR SCHEME. BUT THE ACTUAL NAME OF THE PARK, WE COULD USE A

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[7. BOARD/COMMISSION REPORTS]

RIGHT. SO THEY'LL VOTE ON IT AGAIN AND THEN IT'LL COME TO US IF THEY APPROVE IT. SO JUST A PRE PRE PREVIEW THAT WE THAT WAS DISCUSSED TO HAVE THAT REQUIREMENT ONLY BE FOR FLAGSHIP PROJECTS WHICH HAVE OVER FIVE 500FT, 500 ACRE OR MORE PARCELS AND NOT PRIMARY PROJECTS THAT

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YEP. THANKS FOR THE CLARIFICATION. BUT THE TAKEAWAY FROM THE CONVERSATION ABOUT THE HOTEL WAS THAT THEY WERE THAT THAT WAS NOT THE ONLY OPTION. THAT WAS NOT THEIR ONLY OPPORTUNITY FOR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. AND THEY WERE MOVING FORWARD WITH NON HOTEL USES FOR POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. OKAY. AND STILL CONSIDERING HOTELS PERHAPS. ANYTHING ELSE.

NOPE. ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT. THANKS FOR THE UPDATE AND THE UPDATE FROM THE PARKS AND TRAILS. HERE. ALL RIGHT. ARB NO MEETING. WE DID HAVE A MEETING. THEY HAD ONE CASE FOR A VARIANCE. IT WAS FOR HARRISON WEST LGA ZONING TECH SECTION FOUR TO ELIMINATE THE REQUIREMENT TO INSTALL ROOFTOP EQUIPMENT SCREENING AT 9360 INNOVATION CAMPUS WAY.

INTERESTING CASE AND HOW THE VARIANCE GOT THERE. BUT THIS IS THE PG PLANT THAT WE HAVE OUT THERE THAT'S BEEN OPENED. EVIDENTLY WE HAD MISSED IT DURING ALL THE MEETINGS THAT THEY HAD WITH THEM. AS FAR AS HAVING THIS REQUIREMENT ON THE ROOFTOP FOR SCREENING AND NOISE, AND IT MADE IT ALL THE WAY THROUGH OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, AND THEN WAS CAUGHT IN MARCH OF LAST THIS LAST YEAR. YEAH, MARCH OF 24. AND WHEN THEY BROUGHT IT TO THE ATTENTION THAT THERE SHOULD BE NEEDED NOW TO HAVE SOME SCREENING, IT WAS GOING TO BE ADDITIONAL QUARTER MILLION DOLLARS TO DO IT BASED ON THE EQUIPMENT THAT THEY HAD ON TO THE ROOF AND THE STRUCTURE OF THE BUILDING THAT IT WAS SITTING ON. VERY, VERY EXPENSIVE. AND SO THE APPLICANT ASKED FOR A VARIANCE, QUITE A BIT OF DISCUSSION AROUND THAT. OF COURSE, THEY LOOKED AT THE DUNCAN FACTORS. WE DISCUSSED EVERYTHING, AND THERE ACTUALLY WAS SOME CASE LAW THAT OUR ATTORNEY HAD FOUND SUPPORTING THE VARIANCE THAT THEY DID APPROVE UNANIMOUSLY FOR THAT. SO THAT WAS THE SITUATION WE HAD THERE. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT REPORT? I APPRECIATE THE UPDATE. SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD NO MEETING I'D. IMPLEMENTATION PANEL. NO MEETING THIS. CAN I SAY ONE THING ABOUT SORRY. YEAH. WE NEED SOME SOUPS. WE NEED SOME SOUP MAKERS PLEASE.

IT IS NEXT WEEK ON WEDNESDAY. I'M SORRY TO THE SUPER SUPPER IS NEXT WEDNESDAY AND WE ARE LOOKING FOR SOUP MAKERS. OKAY. I'M TRYING TO THINK WHAT SOUPS I HAVE. I CAN PULL TOGETHER A COUPLE CAN SEE WHAT YOU HAVE IN HERE. NO, I GOT IT ALL. I GOT A TEXT. BECKER. YES? IT'S BECCA MAKING A SOUP AGAIN. OH, DID BECCA MAKE LAST YEAR? BECCA MADE LAST YEAR. OH, YOU GOT ALL THE CREDITS. LET'S BE HONEST. JUST. IT WAS HOW IT WAS SERVED THAT. REALLY, I DON'T HAVE A SOUP FOR YOU, BUT JUST CONCEPTUALLY, GOING FORWARD, BEING DOWN IN FLORIDA, THEY HAVE A MAJOR EVENT FOR SOUPS TO RAISE MONEY FOR FOOD, FOOD, BANK AND OTHER THINGS DOWN THERE. AND ALL THE SOUPS ARE PRESENTED BY HOTELS AND RESTAURANTS, AND THEY ACTUALLY GET CREDIT FOR IT, SET UP THEIR LITTLE STANCHION OR WHATEVER TO PRESENT THE SOUPS, AND THEY GOT A BROADER ARRAY AND HUGE TURNOUT. AND I THINK IT JUST GAVE A LOT MORE VARIETY TO IT. SO SOMETHING TO CONSIDER FOR NEXT YEAR. AS YOU LOOK AT THE SOUP PROGRAM, WE WOULD WELCOME HOTEL SOUPS. WE WOULD WELCOME ANY RESTAURANT SOUPS I THINK LIKE THE TASTE OF NEW ALBANY. I GETTING PARTICIPATION LIKE THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING TO CONSIDER DOWN THE ROAD. I DON'T HAVE A SOUP FOR YOU THIS YEAR. NO, NO, WE NEED A NEW VENUE. YEAH, YOU RAISED A QUARTER OF $1 MILLION. OKAY, THAT'S THAT'S A DIFFERENT PROGRAM. AND ONE AFTERNOON. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE FROM THE CEMETERY RESTORATION ADVISORY BOARD? YEAH. WE HAD A LONG AND PRODUCTIVE MEETING. CROWD MEMBERS REPORTED BACK ON THE

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AND THAT'S ALL FROM THE CROWD. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. NO UPDATE FROM THE PUBLIC SERVICE COMMISSION. WE DID HAVE A MEETING. WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON ANY CORRESPONDENCE OR COMMUNICATION SINCE OUR LAST MEETING? ANY OBJECTION TO A FIVE MINUTE BREAK? I'M SORRY. I HAVE 806. SO WE ARE PUSHING SOUND. AND WE ARE. MAYOR, IF YOU'RE READY, WE'RE RESUMING THE REGULAR MEETING AT 8:13 P.M. ALL RIGHT, THAT TAKES US TO SECOND READING

[9. SECOND READING OF ORDINANCES AND PUBLIC HEARING]

MR. MAYOR, THANK YOU. SO THIS PLAT DEDICATES RIGHT OF WAY FOR THREE NEW STREETS. SO IT IS AN EXTENSION OF SECOND STREETS AND EXTENSION OF THIRD STREET. AND THEN THERE'S A NEW STREET THAT WE'RE CALLING FOUNDERS AVENUE. SO AGAIN, WE WERE TRYING TO FIND A HISTORIC NAME. AND SO WE JUST DECIDED TO NAME IT AFTER EVERY FOUNDER IN, IN THE, IN THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY. AND THERE'S ALSO A NEW EAST WEST PUBLIC ALLEY THAT WE'RE CALLING HAWTHORNE ALLEY HERE. AND SO ALL OF THESE STREETS ARE RESIDENTIALLY SIZED, AND THE ALLEYS ARE 18FT. SO THIS PLAT MATCHES THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT WAS APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL ON DECEMBER 3RD. THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT COMMITS THE PROPERTY OWNER TO DEDICATE ALL THE RIGHT OF WAY CONTAINED IN THE PLAT, AT NO COST TO THE CITY, IN EXCHANGE FOR COMMITMENTS FOR THE CITY TO INSTALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE. AND AGAIN, THIS ALL OF THIS RIGHT OF WAY HERE IS ABOUT ONE ACRE. THE ENTIRE SITE IS A LITTLE LESS THAN TWO AND A HALF. SO THE PROPERTY OWNER IS DEDICATING APPROXIMATELY 40% OF THEIR PROPERTY TO THE CITY FOR PUBLIC STREETS AND ALLEYS. SO THIS PUBLIC STREET PATTERN FOLLOWS THE RECOMMENDATIONS CONTAINED IN THE ENGAGE NEW ALBANY STRATEGIC PLAN. AND I THINK I MENTIONED, YEAH, I LOOK BACK ALL THE WAY IN THE VERY FIRST STRATEGIC PLAN FROM 1997 AND ACTUALLY MATCHES THIS. SO FOR 25, 35 YEARS NOW, THIS HAS BEEN THE RECOMMENDED OUTLINE. AND SO IT'S EXCITING THAT, YOU KNOW, THE CITY FINALLY HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE THE STREETS DEDICATED TO THE CITY TO EXPAND THE GRID. SO THE PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEWED AND RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THIS PROPOSED FINAL PLAT DURING THEIR MEETING ON DECEMBER 16TH, AND STAFF IS HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? I KNOW THERE WAS SOME PUBLIC CONCERN ABOUT DEVELOPMENT IN THAT AREA. I JUST WANT OBVIOUSLY, THIS ORDINANCE TO HIGHLIGHT THE FACT THAT THE CITY AND THE DEVELOPER HAVE SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON ROAD CONNECTIONS TRYING TO GET AHEAD OF ANY TRAFFIC ISSUES. OF COURSE, THE MARKET STREET EXTENSION TYING INTO 62 AND SORT OF REALIGNING THE TRAFFIC PATTERN THROUGH THAT AREA WILL HAVE A BIG IMPACT AS WELL. BUT IT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING WE'RE CONCENTRATING ON. AND THIS IS, AGAIN, A GOOD INDICATION THAT BEFORE DEVELOPMENT, WE'RE ALREADY WORKING ON ROAD NETWORKS. WITH THAT, I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK REGARDING ORDINANCE 003 2025 HEARING NO PUBLIC COMMENT, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

JUST ONE THING, MAYOR, I JUST WANTED TO ADD TO YOUR COMMENT. I THINK ALSO COUNCIL IS DISCUSSIONS AROUND METERED PARKING AS WELL ON THOSE STREETS, WHICH I KNOW HAS BEEN A CONCERN, AND TRYING TO GET AHEAD OF THAT AS WELL AS PART OF THIS WHOLE PLAN, I THINK IS IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT AS WELL. SO JUST AS ANOTHER ALTERNATIVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE GOOD ADEQUATE

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BRISK. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. DEREK. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. DULL. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER.

WILTROUT. YES. I HAVE SIX YES. VOTES STOOD UP. ORDINANCE. 003 2025. ALL RIGHT. ORDINANCE 004 2025 AN ORDINANCE TO APPROVE THE FINAL PLAT MODIFICATIONS FOR LOT 19IN THE HAWKSMOOR SUBDIVISION, AS REQUESTED BY TREVOR ARNOLD, MR. MAYOR, THANK YOU. SO THIS LOT 19 IS LOCATED AT THE END OF THE HAWKSMOOR SUBDIVISION, OUTLINED IN RED HERE. SO THIS ENTIRE PROPERTY, THIS IS SORT OF A BUSY EXHIBIT. BUT AGAIN, THE TAKEAWAY I'D LIKE FOR CITY COUNCIL TO KNOW IS THAT THE ENTIRE PROPERTY IS SURROUNDED BY A COMBINED TREE PRESERVATION ZONE, NO BUILD ZONE AND DRAINAGE EASEMENT. BACK IN 2018, THE PROPERTY LINE TO THE SOUTH WAS ADJUSTED. HOWEVER, THE EASEMENTS PRESERVATION ZONE AND NO BUILD WAS NOT UPDATED. SO REALLY, THIS IS SORT OF A CLEANUP OF WHAT WAS STARTED IN 2018. AND SO HERE'S THE SIMPLIFIED VERSION. SO THIS IS THE EXISTING TREE PRESERVATION AND NO BUILD ZONE. SO THIS IS ESSENTIALLY WHAT COUNCIL IS LOOKING AT TONIGHT.

SO COUNCIL HAS PROVIDED STAFF WITH THE ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW AND APPROVAL RIGHTS FOR THE EASEMENTS. HOWEVER SINCE IT IS A TREE PRESERVATION ZONE AND NO BUILD THAT HAS TO COME BACK TO CITY COUNCIL. SO THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED A TREE SURVEY AND IT SHOWS THERE'S ACTUALLY MORE TREES IN THIS NEW PROPOSED TREE PRESERVATION ZONE THAT ALIGNS THE SOUTHERN BORDER. SO AGAIN ALL OF THESE CHANGES ARE ON THE SAME PROPERTY. IT'S JUST SHIFTING THINGS SOUTH. SO IT MATCHES THE GENERAL I GUESS PATTERN WHERE EVERY LOT IS BORDERED WITH A TREE PRESERVATION ZONE AND NO BUILD ZONE. SO THE PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEWED AND RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THIS IN NOVEMBER OF 2024, AND STAFF IS HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT.

ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THE ORDINANCE, I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. WOULD ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC LIKE TO SPEAK REGARDING ORDINANCE OH FOUR 2025 HEARING? NO PUBLIC COMMENT. WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE A MOTION ON THE ORDINANCE? I MOVE FOR ADOPTION OF 004 2025 SECOND.

DEREK. COUNCIL MEMBER WILTROUT. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. DEREK. YES. MAYOR. SPALDING. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. CHRIS. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. KISS. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. SHAW. YES. SIX YES.

VOTES TO ADOPT ORDINANCE 004 2025. INTRODUCTION AND FIRST READING OF ORDINANCES ORDINANCE

[10. INTRODUCTION AND FIRST READING OF ORDINANCES]

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ORDINANCE OH SIX 2025 AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND CHAPTER 1115.07 OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING CODE OF THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY CODIFIED ORDINANCES AS REQUESTED BY THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY. MR. CHRISTIAN, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SO THIS ORDINANCE IS TO AMEND CODE, AS YOU MENTIONED, OUR PLANNING AND ZONING CODE. IT'S MORE SPECIFICALLY, THIS IS OUR CONDITIONAL USE CODE SECTION. SO WHAT WE HAVE FOUND RECENTLY, JUST FROM SOME FEEDBACK FROM SOME OF OUR DEVELOPERS, SPECIFICALLY OUR RETAIL DEVELOPERS. SO IN OUR AREAS LIKE THE CANADIAN TRUST CORPS, WHERE RESTAURANTS CAN DEVELOP WITH A DRIVE THROUGH FACILITY, RESTAURANT USES ARE ALLOWED. BUT CONDITIONAL USE OR SORRY, THE RESTAURANT USES ARE ALLOWED, BUT THE DRIVE THROUGH COMPONENT OF THAT USE IS A CONDITIONAL USE, WHICH REQUIRES A SEPARATE REVIEW AND APPROVAL BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION. CODE CURRENTLY STATES THAT THOSE CONDITIONAL USE APPROVALS EXPIRE AFTER ONE YEAR. HOWEVER, OUR CODE ALSO STATES THAT FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLANS EXPIRE AFTER TWO YEARS, SO THERE'S CLEARLY A DISCONNECT THERE. AND OUR CODE. SO WHAT THIS WHAT THIS PROPOSED CODE AMENDMENT DOES IS IT ALLOWS CONDITIONAL USE APPROVALS ESSENTIALLY TO RUN THE APPROVAL OF THOSE OF THOSE CONDITIONAL USE USE APPLICATIONS TO RUN CONCURRENT WITH THE ASSOCIATED DEVELOPMENT PLAN. SO IF NEW CONSTRUCTION IS NEEDED AS PART OF A CONDITIONAL USE APPROVAL, THE APPLICANT HAS TWO YEARS TO EXECUTE THAT BEFORE IT EXPIRES.

IF THERE'S AN EXISTING BUILDING AND AN APPLICANT JUST NEEDS JUST TO GET TO GET A CONDITIONAL USE AND NO CONSTRUCTION IS NEEDED, THEN THEY HAVE ONE YEAR TO START THAT CONDITIONAL USE BEFORE IT EXPIRES. SO THAT'S REALLY THE TOP SECTION HERE OF THE CODE. AND THEN WE DID TAKE THIS TO PLANNING COMMISSION LAST MONTH. YEAH LAST MONTH. AND THEY DID BRING UP JUST HOW CONFUSING OUR VIOLATION PROCESS WAS IN TERMS OF HOW ANY VIOLATIONS ASSOCIATED WITH CONDITIONAL USES ARE HANDLED ADMINISTRATIVELY. SO WE DID ADD SOME ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE IN THE MIDDLE SECTION. OUR DEPUTY CITY CLERK HELPED US OUT IMMENSELY WITH THIS, SO KUDOS TO HER JUST TO HELP CLARIFY THAT.

AND OUR PLANNING COMMISSION WAS REALLY COMFORTABLE WITH THIS LANGUAGE. SO THAT'S THE CODE UPDATE IN SHORT. BUT I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT. WELL, I APPRECIATE STAFF'S EFFORTS TO MAKE THESE UPDATES AND CHANGES. YOU KNOW, IT RELIEVES A LOT OF PRESSURE FROM BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS WHEN WE SEE A REOCCURRING ISSUE AND JUST ADDRESS IT DIRECTLY IN THE CODE. SO I APPRECIATE THAT. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL. AND WE WILL ALSO SET THAT FOR SECOND READING AND PUBLIC HEARING AT OUR MEETING ON FEBRUARY 18TH. ALSO, LET ME JUST TAKE A MOMENT TO RECOGNIZE AND CONGRATULATE OUR TWO COLLEAGUES HERE FOR THEIR PROMOTIONS.

YOU'VE BOTH DONE ABSOLUTELY OUTSTANDING WORK AND WE WELL, I GUESS YEAH, YEAH, WE'LL DRAG HIM INTO THE CONVERSATION AS WELL. AGAIN, CONGRATULATIONS. OBVIOUSLY IT SHOWS A GREAT LEVEL OF TRUST FROM THE ADMINISTRATION TO ENHANCE AND INCREASE YOUR RESPONSIBILITIES. BUT I THINK IT'S WELL EARNED AND APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT YOU GUYS HAVE DONE COLLECTIVELY AND INDIVIDUALLY TO MAKE NEW ALBANY THE CITY AND COMMUNITY THAT IT IS TODAY. SO THANK YOU. AND I THINK JOE, IN YOUR NOTE, WERE TWO OF YOU INTERNS HERE? BOTH OF YOU? YEAH. YEAH, THAT'S THAT'S IMPRESSIVE. HOME GROWN. YEP. I REALLY I LIKE TO SEE THAT GROWING THE TALENT RIGHT HERE.

ALL RIGHT. RESOLUTIONS AND PUBLIC HEARING. WE HAVE NONE ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA. COUNCIL

[12. COUNCIL SUBCOMMITTEE REPORTS]

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AND I KNOW WE HAVE SOME IDEAS ABOUT SUBCOMMITTEES. AND, YOU KNOW, WE ACTUALLY THREW OUT 3 OR 4 PRETTY QUICKLY, AND BEN PROVIDED SOME GOOD INSIGHT THAT THESE, WHATEVER WE DO CREATE, ARE GOING TO BE PUBLIC BODIES THAT WILL REQUIRE MINUTES AND NOTIFICATIONS OF, OF MEETINGS.

SO I WANT US TO BE COGNIZANT WHEN WE'RE NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, SO I AND I BRING THAT UP NOW BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF SOMETHING FOR, YOU KNOW, AS A GATEWAY TO PICKLEBALL COURTS RISES TO THE LEVEL OF AN OFFICIAL SUBCOMMITTEE, RIGHT? YEAH, I THINK I THINK WE'VE WE'VE HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS ABOUT HOW THESE GET CREATED. I MEAN, I THINK A SUBCOMMITTEE, YOU KNOW, TO YOUR POINT, CASEY, REALLY ELEVATES SORT OF THE PROFILE OF THE OF THE ENTITY AND FORMALIZES IT BY REQUIRING TO HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARINGS. YOU KNOW, IT INDICATES TO THE PUBLIC THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, SORT OF AN OFFICIAL, VERY OFFICIAL NATURE. BUT I THINK THAT THERE ARE TIMES WHERE WE, AS A COUNCIL WANT TO JUST HAVE A GROUP OF LESS THAN, YOU KNOW, A QUORUM OF COUNCIL THAT ARE GATHERING INFORMATION. IT'S NON DECISIONAL. PERHAPS THEY'RE MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS OR PROVIDING UPDATES TO THE WHOLE OF COUNCIL SO THAT A DECISION CAN BE MADE THAT SOMETHING LESS THAN A SUBGROUP. SO OUR SUBCOMMITTEE SO I, I TEND TO AGREE. I'M NOT SURE UNLESS MR. SCHULER BROUGHT THE ISSUE FORWARD DISAGREES. IF YOU THINK THIS SHOULD BE ELEVATED TO THAT THAT FORMAL OF A SETTING. NO. MY ONLY MY ONLY REASON FOR EVEN MENTIONING SOMETHING LIKE THAT IS SOMEHOW BEING ABLE TO GIVE THE PARK AND REC DIRECTIONS FOR, YOU KNOW, ACTIVITY THAT HAPPENS AT THE PICKLEBALL COURT. AND I DEFINITELY WANT OUR INPUT. SO WHATEVER WAY YOU FEEL THAT THAT'S APPROPRIATE, I'M FINE WITH. IS IT IS IT FEASIBLE THAT THE REPRESENTATIVE FROM COUNCIL TO THE PARKS AND TRAILS OR EXCUSE ME, TO THE NEW ALBANY PARKS DEPARTMENT COULD PROVIDE THAT LEVEL OF FEEDBACK, GATHER INFORMATION AND COME BACK TO US, MAKE PRESENTATIONS TO GET CLEAR DIRECTIONS AT A PUBLIC MEETING. I WOULD SAY YES, JUST BECAUSE IF YOU EVEN LOOK AT OUR LAST MEETING, THERE WAS CLEAR DIRECTION THAT CAME OUT OF THAT MEETING, THROUGH OUR PUBLIC CONVERSATION THAT THE PARK AND RECS WAS ABLE TO TAKE BACK AND GAVE THEM A NICE DIRECTION. SO I THINK AS IT THE ONLY REMAINING THING TO BE DISCUSSED, AND WE COULD ACTUALLY JUST LET THE PARK AND REC DECIDE THIS IS MAYBE WHEN THEY DO HAVE A RENTAL FEE, BECAUSE I KNOW LAST YEAR THEY HAD TALKED ABOUT MAYBE FOUR COURTS DURING NON-PEAK TIMES. IF PEOPLE WANT TO RENT THE COURT AND MAKE SURE THEY GUARANTEED TO HAVE IT WITHOUT PEOPLE COMING INTO THEIR GAME, IF THEY WANTED TO DO THAT, MAYBE WE JUST LET THEM SET THAT PRICE IF YOU'D LIKE. AND REALLY, I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY BASED ON THE DIRECTION WE'VE ALREADY GIVEN THEM. THAT MIGHT BE THE ONLY UNANSWERED PIECE THAT THEY WERE LOOKING FOR IS KIND OF WHAT TO DO WITH RENTALS OR LEAGUES AND WHAT DO YOU CHARGE AND ALL THAT. AND I THINK THEY HAVE SUCH A GOOD GROUP OVER THERE THAT I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO LOOK AT WHAT'S OUT THERE AND JUST DO INDUSTRY AVERAGE, I THINK, ON ALL THAT. AND I CAN ALWAYS REPORT THAT BACK. AND IF THERE'S EVER A INPUT THAT COUNCIL WANTS TO GIVE THEM, I MEAN I CAN TAKE THAT BACK AT THEIR MONTHLY MEETINGS AS WELL. AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE IF TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, I THINK IF COUNCIL IS GOOD WITH THAT, I'M FINE WITH THAT TOO. DO WE NEED A FORMAL LIKE REVENUE SHARING AGREEMENT WITH THE PARKS THAT TALKS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, SORT OF I'M JUST ENVISIONING LIKE THE AMPHITHEATER WHERE WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE FORMAL ARRANGEMENTS REGARDING THE COST OF CERTAIN ACTIVITIES, HOW THAT REVENUE GETS SHARED, WHERE IT GETS DEPOSITED. I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT. SO THAT THAT WOULD ALSO, AGAIN, FORMALIZE THE RELATIONSHIP, GIVE SOME CLARITY TO THE PARKS FOR SURE ABOUT EXPECTATIONS FROM THE CITY. AND ALSO, YOU KNOW, MAKE IT IN THAT IN THOSE DISCUSSIONS THEY CAN CLARIFY WHAT ROLE THEY WANT TO PLAY AND MAKE SURE THAT WE PROVIDE ENOUGH INCENTIVE IN THAT CONTRACT OR RELATIONSHIP THAT THEY WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH SOME OF THOSE OPPORTUNITIES, AND THEY HAVE SIMILAR REVENUE SHARING AGREEMENTS ALREADY IN PLACE WITH SOME SOCCER GROUPS, ETC. AND THEY HAD MENTIONED THAT TO ME, THAT IF THAT'S A PATH THEY WANT TO GO DOWN, THAT THEY WOULD JUST APPLY THE SAME REVENUE SHARING TO US, HOWEVER THAT LOOKS. BUT WE AT THE TIME DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WE DIDN'T KNOW LAST YEAR. YEP. YOU KNOW, AND WE

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[13. REPORTS OF REPRESENTATIVES]

[14. REPORTS OF CITY OFFICIALS]

THEY'RE A GOOD NEIGHBOR. SO. ALL RIGHT, I WILL APPROVE THAT. OH, IT IS THAT TIME OF YEAR. DO YOU WANT TO DO HORSE AND CARRIAGE FOR FOUNDERS DAY AND GOLF RENTAL FOR INDEPENDENCE DAY. SAME IS A GOOD PROGRAM. OKAY, I'LL START THAT PROCESS. THE SELECTION OF AN INDEPENDENCE DAY GRAND MARSHAL. I HAVE PINGED THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL CAN, YOU KNOW, MAYBE MAKE THIS HIS RESPONSIBILITY, OR HE CAN SHARE IT WITH COUNCIL. NOW THAT THIS IS A CITY EVENT, WE NEED A PROCESS, A WAY TO SELECT A GRAND MARSHAL. WE HAVE A LIMITED TIME THIS YEAR. ABBY WOULD LIKE TO KNOW SENIOR PROGRAM AND COMMUNITY PROGRAMING ADMINISTRATOR. ABBY WOULD LIKE TO KNOW BY THE END OF MARCH. SO WE HAVE JUST A FEW COUNCIL MEETINGS TO MAKE SOMETHING LIKE THAT HAPPEN. BUT WE COULD ALSO COME UP WITH A PROCESS FOR FUTURE GRAND MARSHALS. SO THINK ABOUT THAT I GUESS, AND GET BACK TO ME. AND FINALLY I WAS GOING TO SAY I WAS GOING TO SAY THE SAME THING. WAIT, WHAT? DID I MISS SOMETHING? NO. SO. SO LET'S CATCH UP. SUB COMMITTEE. SUB SUB. FINALLY. OH, A REMINDER, I HAD SENT OUT AN EMAIL. I HAVE A COUPLE RSVP BUT I NEED SOME MORE ABOUT THE INNOVATE NEW ALBANY BRICKHOUSE BLUE GRAND OPENING ON THURSDAY, MARCH 6TH, RIBBON CUTTING BETWEEN 4 AND 5 AND RECEPTION LASTING UNTIL SEVEN. I'VE GOT ONE IN AND I'VE GOT TWO OUT. YEAH. TWO OUT. YEAH. BUT IF THE REST OF YOU GET BACK TO ME, THEY ARE EAGER TO KNOW WHETHER TO INCLUDE YOU IN THE PLANNING.

AND THAT'S IT FROM THE CLERK. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ANY UPDATE FROM THE FINANCE DIRECTOR? NOTHING TO REPORT. ALL RIGHT, CITY MANAGER, NO REPORT. AND CITY ATTORNEY, I LOOK FORWARD TO TALKING TO EVERYBODY IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. OH. VERY OMINOUS. CASEY, WHAT DID YOU DO FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AND PUBLIC MISUNDERSTANDING? ALL RIGHT. THEN, AS WE AMENDED THE AGENDA,

[EXECUTIVE SESSION]

[02:00:02]

YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. SHAW. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER WILTROUT. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. KISS. YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER. DEREK. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. YES. SIX. YES. VOTES TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AT 8:37 P.M. FOR THOSE FOLLOWING ALONG WITH THE MEETING, WE WILL LEAVE THE VIDEO ROLLING, BUT WE WILL TURN THE SOUND OFF AND THEN WE WILL COME BACK AFTER THE EXE IF YOU WOULD. ALL RIGHT. WE ARE PUSHING SOUND MAYOR, WHENEVER YOU'RE READY. ALL RIGHT. I MOVE THAT WE RETURN TO THE PUBLIC HEARING AFTER EXITING EXECUTIVE SESSION. SECOND. MAYOR SPALDING.

YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. SHAW. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. BRISK. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. DEREK. YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER. KEITH. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. WELCH. YES. I HAVE SIX YES VOTES TO RETURN TO THE REGULAR SESSION AT 9:03 P.M. ALL RIGHT. PULL FOR COUNCIL COMMENT. ANY ADDITIONAL COUNCIL COMMENT? ANY OTHER BUSINESS FOR CONSIDERATION. AND I MOVE THAT WE ADJOURN. SECOND ONE AND TWO.

AND WE ARE ADJOURNING AT

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.