Mar 03, 2025 Planning Commission

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IS THE COMMISSION READY? YEAH. OKAY. IS STAFF READY? OKAY. YES. I'D LIKE TO CALL THE ORDER OF

[I. Call to order]

[III. Action on minutes: February 19, 2025]

OKAY. AND MY COMPLIMENTS TO STAFF. BECAUSE GIVEN THE ITEM THAT GOT TABLED, IT WAS EXCELLENT TO HAVE THESE TURNED OVER. IN THAT AMOUNT OF TIME. I WAS FIGURING WE WERE GOING TO HAVE TO USE THESE IN ONE OF THE CASES IN THE TABLED CASES. THANK YOU. DO I HEAR A MOTION ON THE MINUTES FROM FEBRUARY 19TH? I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM THE FEBRUARY 19TH, 2025 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING. DO I HEAR A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION FOR THE MINUTES? OKAY. THE ROLL PLEASE. MR. SHELL? YES. MR. LAWSON? YES. MR. WALLACE? YES. MR. KIRBY? YES. THE MOTION PASSES WITH FOUR VOTES TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS SUBMITTED. DO WE HAVE ANY

[IV. Additions or corrections to the agenda]

[V. Hearing of visitors for items not on tonight's agenda]

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THERE'S NO CASE PENDING AT THIS POINT, RIGHT. SO EVEN THOUGH YOU'RE DISCUSSING SOMETHING THAT IS NOT ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA, BUT IT IS GOING TO BE ON THE AGENDA SOMETIME IN THE FUTURE, DOES IT MAKE SENSE FOR YOU TO PRESENT YOUR CONCERNS TO STAFF SO THEY CAN BE CONSIDERED DURING THE STAFF REPORT TIME WHEN THE STAFF REPORT IS PREPARED, AND THEN COME TO THE PUBLIC MEETING WHEN THE CASE IS BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO BE TELLING US THINGS THAT WE HAVE NO CONTEXT FOR TONIGHT. I GUESS WE'RE JUST ALARMED BECAUSE THIS IS JUST SUPPOSEDLY THERE WAS GOING TO BE A FINAL VOTE ON THIS IN IN THE MIDDLE OF MARCH. SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE ALL HERE, WHICH IS THIS. THIS HAS JUST SNOWBALLED WITH WITHOUT REALLY ANY AWARENESS ON OUR PART. BASED ON WE HAD A MEETING WITH THE SCHOOL SUPERINTENDENT AND WE WERE, YOU KNOW, PRESENTED WITH A CERTAIN PLAN. AND I DON'T I THINK IT WAS JUST BY CHANCE THAT SOMEBODY LOOKED AT SOME OF THE MINUTES OF ONE OF THE OTHER MEETINGS AND DISCOVERED NOW THAT THERE'S A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT APPROACH TO THIS WHOLE PLAN. SO WE'RE FEELING AN IMMEDIACY ABOUT IT BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S MOVING RATHER QUICKLY. BUT HOWEVER YOU IS BEST FOR YOU TO HAVE US PROCEED. SURE. YOU KNOW, WE'RE CERTAINLY. YEAH. SO WHAT OTHER BOARDS AND COMMISSION HERE BEFORE WE DO THE ROCKY FORK REPORT, AND WHEN WOULD THEY HEAR IT AT THIS POINT? I THINK IF THEY SUBMITTED AND THEY GOT THE TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY DONE, THEY WOULD GO IN APRIL AND THEN PC WOULD HEAR IT IN MAY AT THE SOONEST, THOUGH NOTHING HAS.

UNTIL THEY HAVE THAT TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY, THEY CAN'T START THE ENTITLEMENT PROCESS. SO THOSE ARE YOUR THOSE ARE YOUR MARKERS FOR MEETINGS THAT YOU WANT TO NOT ONLY BE AT, BUT TO BE PREPARED AT. WE CAN HEAR WE I WOULD WON'T MIND HEARING A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT YOU'VE GOT TO SAY JUST SO THAT WE KNOW THAT THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WITH A LOT OF STUFF TO SAY, AND I'D LIKE THEM TO KNOW THAT. SURE, WE WILL HEAR THEM. AND CERTAINLY AT THE PUBLIC MEETING WHERE IT'S ON THE AGENDA, BY ALL MEANS, DEFINITELY SHOW UP. STAFF IS THE RECIPIENT THE BEST RECIPIENT RIGHT NOW OF YOUR CONCERNS AS IS WHAT YOU'RE ALREADY DOING, IS TALK TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, THE APPLICANT AND GET YOUR CONCERNS WITH THEM STATED, AND FIND OUT IF THERE'S THINGS THAT ARE THE VICTORY CONDITIONS ON THIS ARE USUALLY, OH, WE FOUND OUT THERE'S THINGS THAT WE WANT THAT IS EASY FOR THEM TO DO. AND THEY DID THEM. AND THERE ARE OTHER THINGS THAT WE DON'T LIKE, BUT WE'RE GOING TO ARGUE ABOUT THAT IN THE MEETING. AND SO YOU GET BECAUSE THE DEVELOPERS OR THE APPLICANT IN ANY CASE WANTS THE SUCCESSFUL MEETING, THEY WOULD LIKE NOT TO HAVE WHAT I REFER TO AS THE PITCHFORKS AND TORCHES CROWD. THEY'RE THEY PREFER WHAT I REFER TO AS THE, YOU KNOW, THE MOTHER GOOSE AND ALL THE DUCKLINGS ALL IN A ROW. AND SO I BET THEY DON'T WANT LOTS OF BACK AND FORTH DRAMA ON THE PUBLIC MEETING, WHERE THEY'RE KIND OF SURPRISED THAT WE HAVE NOT BEEN NOTIFIED AS A COMMUNITY ABOUT ANYTHING OTHER THAN THE ONE MEETING, WHICH I BELIEVE WAS IT IN DECEMBER. RIGHT. AND THE VILLAGE WILL NOTICE THAT THE CITY WILL NOTIFY WHEN A ZONING CHANGE OR SIMILAR IS ON AN AGENDA AND EVERYBODY WITHIN 200, 200FT. EVERYBODY WITH 200FT WILL GET WRITTEN IN THE MAIL. NOTICE. I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OF YOU ARE WITHIN 200FT, BUT IF THAT TOUCHES A PART OF YOUR GROUP, THEN SOMEBODY'S GOING TO GET A PIECE IN THE MAIL. GO AHEAD THOUGH. WELL, I JUST I'LL JUST MAKE 2 OR 3 POINTS BRIEFLY. THEN IF I COULD DO THAT. THIS WOULD REQUIRE A ZONING CHANGE FOR THAT AREA, WHICH IS CURRENTLY I PUDDLE. AND IT WOULD HAVE TO GO TO COMMUNITY FACILITIES DISTRICT AND 1151 .01 DEFINES THE PURPOSE OF THE COMMUNITY FACILITIES. AND PART B SAYS IT'S TO PROTECT COMMUNITY FACILITIES AND INSTITUTIONS FROM THE ENCROACHMENT OF CERTAIN OTHER USES, AND TO MAKE SURE SUCH USES ARE COMPATIBLE WITH THE ADJOINING RESIDENTIAL USES. NUMBER ONE AND NUMBER TWO, TO REGULATE THE LOCATION OF SUCH FACILITIES SO AS TO ENSURE PROPER FUNCTIONING AND CONSIDERATION OF TRAFFIC ACCESS

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BUT I DON'T THINK THIS DOESN'T SEEM TO PERMIT THAT BECAUSE OF THE COMMERCIAL LOT THAT IS THERE. SO IN OTHER WORDS, THE COMMERCIAL LOT CAN'T OPEN UP AND REQUIRE THE OPENING UP OF ANY NEW ROADWAY. AND MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT THAT WAS THE PURPOSE OF PUTTING. AND WHY DO WE NEED TWO ENTRANCES? BUT THAT WAS THE PURPOSE OF PUTTING TWO ENTRANCES, BECAUSE THEN IT WOULD BE A ROAD THAT WOULD ALLOW ACCESS TO THAT COMMERCIAL LOT. BUT I QUESTION WHETHER THAT'S PERMISSIBLE UNDER THE. UNDER THESE REGULATIONS. SO ANYWAY, I, WE ALL HAVE A BUNCH OF CONCERNS.

WE HAVE HEALTH CONCERNS. I HAVE NO OTHER PEOPLE WANT TO SPEAK ABOUT OTHER THINGS. BUT I JUST, YOU KNOW, WANTED TO WE FELT THAT NEED BECAUSE OF THE URGENCY THAT WE WERE FACED WITH TO WANT TO COME AS A GROUP AND, YOU KNOW, PRESENT TO YOU AND I UNDERSTAND YOUR SITUATION. YOU HAVEN'T REVIEWED IT ALL ENOUGH, AND YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH OF THE MATERIAL TO REALLY KNOW, YOU KNOW, EVEN TO MAKE SENSE, MAYBE OF THE COMMENTS WE'RE MAKING. YEAH. ANYWAY, AGAIN. AGAIN.

YEAH. WELL, DANIEL'S POINT, YOU KNOW, ANY CONCERNS? FIRST DIRECTED THE STAFF AND MAKE SURE YOU'RE AT THE ROCKY FORK MEETING WOULD BE THE FIRST TIME TO PUBLICLY BE HEARD. SURE. AND THE APPLICANT. BECAUSE THEY'RE THE ONE WHO IS PROPOSING, AND THEY'RE THE ONE WHO'D BE HAVE THE BURDEN OF CHANGING THEIR PROPOSAL. AND THE FASTER YOU GET TO THEM, THE LESS THEY HAVE INVESTED AND THE LESS MOMENTUM THEY HAVE IN ANY PARTICULAR PLAN. IF IT'S JUST LINES ON A MAP, IT'S A LOT CHEAPER TO MOVE LINES ON A MAP THAN IT IS TO MOVE SOMETHING WHERE DIRT HAS BEEN MOVED, OR WHERE ENGINEERING EXPENSES HAVE BEEN PAID ALREADY. SO TALK TO THE APPLICANT FIRST.

WELL, WE HAVE HAD THAT ONE MEETING WITH THE APPLICANT. AREN'T WE HAVING ANOTHER MEETING THIS WEEK? I THINK ON WEDNESDAY I WILL SAY THEY WERE NOT VERY RECEPTIVE TO US AND I WAS NOT AT THE MEETING. SO I'M GIVING YOU HEARSAY. BUT APPARENTLY THE GROUP WAS TOLD, WELL, THIS IS GOING IN WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT. AND THAT WAS NOT VERY HOSPITABLE. THE SCHOOL BOARD AND THE FIRE STATION. RIGHT? YEAH. BOTH OF WHICH DEPEND ON PUBLIC VOTES FOR THEIR MONEY. YOU MIGHT REMIND THEM OF THAT FACT. AND THEY. YEAH. YOU KNOW, THEY SAID EVEN IF WE EVEN IF THE LEVY DIDN'T PASS, IT WAS GOING IN THEIR WHETHER WE WANTED IT OR NOT. SO ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER. THE ONLY THING I'D SAY IS WHEN WE'RE PRESENTING, WHATEVER YOUR COMMENTS ARE, THE COMMISSION CAN ONLY REALLY CONSIDER YOUR ARGUMENTS WHEN THERE'S A CASE FILED AND EVIDENCE IN FRONT OF THEM. SO WHILE YOU MAY PRESENT ARGUMENTS TO THE CHAIR'S POINT, COME BACK WHEN THE CASE IS PRESENT. PRESENT YOUR EVIDENCE BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN THEY'LL CONSIDER THE INFORMATION. WE JUST DIDN'T WANT THAT TO BE TOO LATE. THAT'S TRUE. YEAH. TALK TALK TO THE APPLICANT NOW AND STAFF NOW. AND US WHEN WE HAVE A MEETING WHERE IT'S ON OUR AGENDA. THANK YOU. YEAH. THERE THEY WHEN THEY MAKE A DECISION, THEY CAN REALLY ONLY MAKE A DECISION BASED UPON EVIDENCE IN THE RECORD FOR THE CASE. AND THESE COMMENTS AREN'T GOING TO BE THAT. SO MAKE SURE YOU COME BACK. MR. CHAIRMAN. NEXT I HAVE

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THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT. MR. CHAIRMAN. NEXT, I HAVE MR. PAUL DRISCOLL. GO AHEAD. HI. MY NAME IS PAUL DRISCOLL. I LIVE AT 6327 CALLOWAY SQUARE EAST. ME AND MY WIFE, RONNIE. WE'VE BEEN DRIVING HERE FOR LIKE, 16 YEARS VISITING OUR GRANDCHILDREN. WE MOVED FROM PENNSYLVANIA TO HERE. WE MOVED IN THE FIRST WEEK OF APRIL. AND IF I KNEW THIS WAS GOING TO HAPPEN, WHICH PROPOSED ESPECIALLY THE BARN FOR THE BUSSES, WE WOULD NOT MOVE THERE. I JUST WANT TO GO ON RECORD SAYING THAT I'M REALLY WE'RE REALLY UPSET ABOUT IT AND WE WANT SOMETHING DONE. IT'S AN EPA HAZARD FOR US. THE OVER 55 COMMUNITY, AND THAT WIND BLOWS RIGHT THROUGH OUR COMMUNITY. SO I JUST WANT TO BE ON RECORD SAYING THAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT. MARTIN COMBS. COMBS I LIVE AT SIX TWO, EIGHT EIGHT CALLOWAY SQUARE WEST. AND I KNOW THERE'S NOT GOING TO SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THE SPECIFICS, BUT I JUST WANT TO SAY THIS IS A MATTER OF TRUST FOR US. MANY OF US MOVED HERE TO NEW ALBANY IN SPITE OF THE HIGH PROPERTY TAXES, BECAUSE OF THE COMMUNITY, THE ARCHITECTURE, THE QUALITY. AND WE'RE JUST HOPING THAT YOU WILL LOOK OUT AFTER OUR INTERESTS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE HIGHWAY. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. TROY JOHNSON.

THANK YOU. TROY JOHNSON, 6357 CALVARY SQUARE EAST WERE ON CALLOWAY. I UNDERSTAND THE FORUM KNOWING NOW THE PROCEDURES STAFF. WE CAME TO A ZONING MEETING LAST WEEK. CHRIS HELPED DIRECT US ON STAFF. SO WE'RE GOING DOWN THE LINE. BUT I THINK THE REASON YOU'LL SEE A LOT OF CONCERNED CITIZENS AT EVERY MEETING GOING FORWARD, UNTIL YOU DO HAVE A CASE OR CASES ARE IN DIFFERENT VENUES, IS BECAUSE WE FELT THIS OR WE WERE TOLD IT'S MOVING VERY QUICKLY. AND WHEN YOU'RE A CITIZEN ON THE OUTSIDE, WITHOUT KNOWING THE INTERNAL STRUCTURE OF THE PROCESSES AND THE MEETINGS AND THE CERTAIN HURDLES TO GO THROUGH, IT BECOMES OVERWHELMING. YOU FEEL VERY INEFFECTIVE. SO IN THESE FORUMS, WE'RE TRYING TO VOICE OUR CONCERN, SHOW OUR UNITY AS OPPOSITION TO NOT ONLY ON A CHANGE, BUT ON THE ENTIRE PROJECT AS A WHOLE. WITH THE FEASIBILITY OF IT MOVING CLOSER TO RESIDENTIAL AS OPPOSED TO STAYING MORE IN AN INDUSTRIAL ENVIRONMENT WITH WITH THE BUS BARN AND SUCH. SO WE KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF WIN WIN FOR EVERYBODY. BUT I THINK THAT'S WHY YOU'LL SEE US. YOU'LL CONTINUE TO SEE US AT ALL THE MEETINGS, AND I AND I KNOW THERE'LL BE CONTINUAL COMMENTS THAT WILL HAPPEN, EVEN THOUGH IT MAY NOT BE AT THE CASE OR THE PUBLIC FORUM FOR THE DECISION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY.

MISTER CHAIR. THAT'S ALL. THE SPEAKERS THAT I HAVE THAT ARE ALL THE SPEAKER CARDS. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TONIGHT ON THIS ISSUE? OKAY. THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING.

[VI. Cases]

CARTER BEAM, 4400 NORTH HIGH STREET, SUITE 401, COLUMBUS, OHIO 43214. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME BACK TO DISCUSS THE BRICK. AND I'M GLAD WE'VE GOTTEN PAST ALL OF THE OTHER TALKING POINTS ON THIS PROJECT. I DID BRING WITH ME A PRESENTATION, BUT IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, MAYBE I'LL JUST GO RIGHT TO THE PREFERENCE AND IF THERE'S MORE TO TALK ABOUT YOU. SO AS DISCUSSED IN THE LAST MEETING, THE BRICK OF PREFERENCE IS THE ONE I HAVE HERE, AND I'LL PASS IT AROUND.

IT IS A RED CLAY BRICK, BUT IT DOES HAVE THAT DUSTING OF BLACK AND FLASHING ON IT. THAT WILL

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IS THAT THE MORTAR SAMPLE IN THERE? YES, YES. KEEP GOING. SO YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE DETAIL THAT THAT IS, IS IN THE BRICK WORK ITSELF. AND CHRIS, MAYBE IF YOU GO TO MY PRESENTATION WE CAN GO A FEW SLIDES FORWARD. IT TOOK SOME ACTUALLY PLACED THIS PARTICULAR BRICK IN THE MODEL.

AND I TOOK SOME CLOSE UP VIEWS. SO YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE SOME SOLDIERING AT THE BASE. WE HAVE BANDS OF SOLDIER, WE HAVE BLOCK SILLS, PILASTERS, PANELS. SO LET'S JUMP FORWARD SEVERAL. I'M SORRY. HERE. DO YOU WANT THIS? YEAH. HERE WE GO. SO YOU CAN SEE, YOU KNOW, SOLDIERING AT THE BOTTOM, PANELING SOLDIER BANDING IN THE MIDDLE AND TOP PILASTERS. IT DOESN'T SHOW UP HERE A LOT.

LET ME GET CLOSER. YOU CAN SEE SOME OF IT THERE. IT'S STILL NOT SHOWING UP VERY WELL. BUT THIS IS THE ACTUAL BRICK THAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU. WHICH ALSO HAS A SAMPLE HERE. AND SO WITH THE GREAT MORTAR AGAIN YOU CAN SEE IT'LL HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THOSE CHANGES IN DIRECTION THAT WE'VE INCORPORATED INTO THE BRICK WORK ITSELF. ALL RIGHT. I DO HAVE SOME ALTERNATE SAMPLES. IF YOU MENTIONED CHARCOAL AT THE LAST MEETING, THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE. OKAY. AND WHEN THE COMMISSION IS DONE WITH THAT, IF WE COULD RETURN IT BACK SO WE COULD SEE IT FROM A DISTANCE, WE COULD DO. ACTUALLY HOLD THE BOAT RIGHT THERE. AND SO HERE'S THE CHARCOAL SAMPLE AS WELL. THANK YOU. SIMILARLY, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE SOME OF THE CONTRAST AND HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE BRICK WORK, WE WOULD GO WITH POSSIBLY A DARKER BLACK MORTAR. IN THIS CHARCOAL EXAMPLE. THANK YOU. AND I DON'T KNOW PEOPLE WANT TO SEE THE CHARCOAL CLOSE UP. YEAH. YEAH.

COULD YOU JUST HOLD THE CARD? YEAH, JUST ASK WITH THE DARKER. YEAH. YOU KNOW, NOT LIKE THE CHARCOAL BRICK HERE IS A CHARCOAL COLOR THAT'S ACTUALLY INTEGRATED INTO THE CLAY. SO IT DOESN'T HAVE THE POTENTIAL OF THAT COLOR CHANGE TOWARDS RED. YEAH. OKAY. I ALSO HAVE THREE SAMPLES OF MORE BROWN BRICK BECAUSE STAFF DID MENTION POSSIBLY MORE EARTH TONED. THOSE ARE BROWN IN NATURE AS FAR AS THE CLAY AND HAVE FLASHING OR, YOU KNOW, KIND OF A BLACK SURFACE. INCORPORATED IN THEM. THEY DO. THIS IS ACTUALLY ONE OF THE MORE BROWN BRICK. THE RENDERINGS DON'T DO GREAT JUSTICE, BUT I HAVE SOME PICTURES AT THE END HERE. THIS IS ACTUALLY A PROJECT NEARBY. IF YOU TAKE HAMILTON ROAD NORTH TO. I CAN'T REMEMBER THE NAME OF IT.

IT'S A PREFERRED LIVING DEVELOPMENT. AND THIS IS A VERY INTERESTING EXAMPLE OF WHAT HAPPENS BECAUSE FROM A DISTANCE WITH THE BLACK MORTAR, IT DOES APPEAR BLACK IN NATURE. BUT THE CLOSER YOU GET, YOU CAN START TO SEE MORE OF THE EARTH TONES OR ALL THREE OF THOSE. THE SAME FACILITY, THE SAME PROJECT, SAME BRICK SHOT AT THE SAME TIME. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. WHICH IS THIS BRICK WILL. YOUR PREFERENCE IS FIRST THE BLACK AS PROPOSED, FOLLOWED BY THE CHARCOAL.

CORRECT. THANK YOU. AND HOW DOES THE WEATHER? LIKE YOU SAID, THE BLACK WILL WEATHER. WHAT CAN YOU DESCRIBE? LIKE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE OVER TIME. YEAH. SO I'LL HAND THIS TO YOU. YOU CAN SEE WHERE SOME OF THE CHIPPING HAS OCCURRED AROUND THE EDGES. AND THAT WILL HAPPEN AS THE BRICKS LAID UP. BUT THAT'S JUST A SURFACE TREATMENT ON THE BRICK. THE, THE DARKER BLACK AREAS. AND SO SIMILAR TO THE VERY FIRST IMAGE WHICH IS THE NEW ALBUM, NEW ALBANY BALLET COMPANY, FOR WHICH WE HAD A LOT OF THE SAME CONVERSATIONS. YOU KNOW, THIS THESE PICTURES WERE TAKEN WHEN THE BUILDING WAS FIRST CONSTRUCTED. BUT TODAY, I DON'T HAVE ANY MORE RECENT PHOTOS

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YEAH. LIKE A WARM, NEUTRAL BRICK COLOR IS WHAT THE CITY ARCHITECT SAID. BASED ON ANYTHING WE'VE HEARD IN THE LAST TWO MEETINGS AS THE CITY ARCHITECT, HAVE ANY DIFFERENT THOUGHTS OR. I DON'T BELIEVE SO. IN TERMS OF IMPACT. THE CHARCOAL TO ME IS A LOT LESS PROBLEMATIC THAN THE BLACK. AND OTHER PEOPLE HAVE OTHER OPINIONS. AND CARTER, CAN YOU SHOW THE BUILDING AGAIN? THE LARGE COMMERCIAL BUILDING THAT'S ON THE CORNER? ABSOLUTELY. SO THIS IS WHAT IS DIRECTLY SOUTH OF OUR SITE. INNOVATION. WELL, MINK IS RUNNING THIS WAY. INNOVATION THIS WAY. SO OUR BUILDING SITS OVER HERE ACROSS THE INTERSECTION FROM THIS CORNER OF THE ACXIOM BUILDING.

SO THIS COLOR, WHICH I KNOW IS A MASONRY, BUT IT'S BLACK, AND THE WOOD ACCENT IS WHAT PRIMARILY INFORMED OUR SELECTION IN THE FIRST PLACE. BUT BASED ON THE BLACK VERSUS THE GRAY. CORRECT.

HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THE GRAY? FOR THE BLACK? YEAH. WELL, THE QUESTION THAT I HAVE IS YOUR CLIENT WOULD NOT SAY DON'T DO IT IF WE SAID GRAY. I DON'T THINK THEY'D HAVE AN OPTION. OKAY.

RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. OTHER OPINIONS FROM THE COMMISSION. CAN YOU HOLD THEM UP SIDE BY SIDE? SURE.

I DON'T. THREE OH. SO THE OPTIONS THAT YOU'RE THAT YOUR CLIENT PREFERS IS EITHER THE BLACK THAT MAY POSSIBLY TURN MORE REDDISH OVER TIME, OR GRAY THAT WILL STAY GRAY PRIMARILY FOREVER. THEIR PREFERENCE IS THE BLACK ONLY. THE OTHERS I BROUGHT SO WE COULD HAVE THIS CONVERSATION. AND WHAT ARE THE OTHER ONES THAT YOU BROUGHT? THEY ARE THE MORE NEUTRAL TONE BROWNISH. THESE TWO ARE THE BEST EXAMPLES. THOSE FOR WHICH I HAVE THE PHOTOGRAPHS AT THE END. SET ON TOP. SO THIS WOULD BE ANOTHER CONTENDER. PROBABLY MORE SO THAN THIS. THEY'RE VERY CLOSE. WITH A BLACK. DO THOSE FIT WITHIN THE PALETTE SUGGESTED BY THE CITY ARCHITECT? CAN YOU TURN THEM OUR WAY? SURE CAN. I WOULD SAY NO. I THINK THE CITY ARCHITECT, YOU KNOW, HE LOOKED AT OTHER RETAIL, SO IT WAS VERY LIKE RED. RIGHT. TO STAY SIMILAR TO OTHER RETAIL PALETTE. IS IT IS IT FAIR TO SAY THAT YOUR CLIENT'S COLOR PREFERENCES SORT OF INTENDED SO THAT ALL THE SPEEDWAYS KIND OF LOOK THE SAME? IT IS. IT HAS BECOME A PROTOTYPICAL COLOR FOR THEM, THE BLACK BRICK. HOWEVER, WHAT THEY TYPICALLY PUT ON THEIR STORES IS AN EXTREMELY WIDE CUT, SMOOTH FACED BRICK. SO THIS IS A DEPARTURE TO TRY AND CONFORM MORE TO WHAT TOM AND WE WOULD LIKE HERE. OKAY. THE APPEARANCE OF HANDMADE BRICK, I BELIEVE, IS THE CORRECT TYPICAL PHRASEOLOGY FOR THAT. YEAH. WHERE'S THE CHART THAT SEEMS TO HIT THAT MORE THAN THE OTHERS AS FAR AS KIND OF HANDMADE, HAD MORE

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EVERYTHINGS I STAYED THE SAME IN THE STAFF REPORT IN THE SITE PLAN. THE CONDITIONS HAVE JUST BEEN REVISED TO WHAT WAS SPOKE ABOUT ON FEBRUARY 19TH. THIS IS LOVELY. THANK YOU SO MUCH BECAUSE I THOUGHT I WAS GOING TO HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE MINUTES TO DIG OUT WHAT WE ALL AGREED ON. OKAY. ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC HAVE ANY QUESTION OR COMMENT ON THIS? OKAY. MAKING SURE THAT EVERYBODY GETS HURT. BUT DO WE GO AROUND AND SAY WHY VOTE FOR GRAY? WELL, WELL, SOMEBODY HAS TO MAKE A MOTION. OKAY. WELL, ACTUALLY, THE ONE I WILL MAKE IS I MOVE THAT WE BRING THE STAFF REPORTS AND RELATED DOCUMENTS INTO THE RECORD FOR FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN O3 2025.

SECOND. SO I HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND FOR THE DOCUMENTS AND DISCUSSION ON THE DOCUMENTS.

NOTE THAT THIS INCLUDES THE BRICK SAMPLES. CAN YOU HEAR THE ROLL, PLEASE? MR. KIRBY? YES.

MR. WALLACE? YES. MR. SHELL. YES. MR. LARSEN? YES. MOTION PASSES WITH FOUR VOTES TO ADMIT THE DOCUMENTS, INCLUDING THE BRICK SAMPLES. OKAY, SO SHOULD WE HAVE TWO? LIKE, SHOULD WE VOTE ON AGREEING TO HAVE A DIFFERENT COLOR PALETTE THAN THE CITY ARCHITECT RECOMMENDS TO START AND THEN PIN DOWN THE COLOR? WELL, IT'S. I WOULD SUGGEST THAT IT BE MADE IN THE MOTION. SO SOMEWHERE IN HERE WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT BRICK COLOR. YEAH. I MEAN, THAT'S THE ONLY THING WE'RE HERE FOR TONIGHT. WELL, AND PUT IN THE AND REREAD INTO THE RECORD THE CONDITIONS AS AMENDED. OKAY. THERE WERE ALL OF WHAT WAS AGREED TO. AND, AND ON THE ONE THAT TALKS ABOUT BRICK THAT SAYS TABLED I'M BETTING. ALRIGHT. BUT MY POINT IS THAT THE APPLICANTS HAVE AGREED TO ALL THE OTHER CONDITIONS. THE ONLY ONE THAT THAT THAT THE APPLICANT HASN'T AGREED TO IS CONDITION TWO. WITH REGARD TO THE COLOR. RIGHT. AND SO WHOEVER MAKES THE MOTION EITHER CAN PROPOSE TO STAY BACK WITH YOUR ORIGINAL PALETTE, OR WE PREFER THIS ONE IF YOU'RE NOT ON THE CALENDAR. AND I DON'T FIND THE CHARCOAL TO BE OBJECTIONABLE. AND YOU KNOW, IF, IF THEY WANT TO TRY SOMETHING DIFFERENT, ESPECIALLY IN THE CONTEXT OF THAT INDUSTRIAL PARK, IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S DOWNTOWN. YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T WANT TO SET A PRECEDENT FOR THAT. YEAH. YEAH.

OKAY. SO THAT'S DO I HEAR A MOTION FOR THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN? YEAH. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SO I MOVED TO APPROVE FINAL DEVELOPMENT. WAS ANYBODY ABOUT TO SPEAK? OKAY. I MOVED TO APPROVE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN OH THREE 2025. SUBJECT TO THE AMENDED CONDITIONS IN THE STAFF REPORT, AND WITH CONDITION TWO, ALLOWING THE GRAY BRICK, CHARCOAL BRICK, AS SHOWN IN THE MEETING TONIGHT, TO BE AN ACCEPTABLE COLOR. AS WELL AS IF THE APPLICANT WISHES THE COLOR PALETTE SUGGESTED BY THE VILLAGE ARCHITECT AT THEIR CHOICE AT THE APPLICANT'S CHOICE. SO WE APPROVE CHARCOAL, AND IF THEY DECIDE, WE'LL JUST GO WITH THE REGULAR ONE. THEY'VE GOT THAT OPTION AVAILABLE TO. IT'S NOT A MANDATE FOR. AND MY QUESTION TO THE APPLICANT IS THAT CLEAR? IT IS. YES. AND THE CHARCOAL BRICK IS A HEBRON BOOTLEGGER. ALL RIGHT. WITH THE BLACK BLACK MORTAR. YEAH. IS THE CONDITION CLEAR FOR STAFF? YES. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY DISCUSSION OF THE MOTION? WHO'S SECOND? DO I HEAR A SECOND? THANK YOU. I'LL SECOND IT. YES. THANK YOU. YEAH, JUST.

IT LOOKS LIKE THERE WAS A NUMBER 11 ADDED TO THE CONDITIONS. AGREED THAT THAT HOPEFULLY THAT WAS THE CONDITIONS AS AMENDED IN OUR CURRENT STAFF. OH, OKAY. THAT COVERS THAT. YES. OKAY.

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SO ANYTHING FURTHER WOULD REQUIRE YET ANOTHER VARIANCE. AND ANY ADDITIONAL SIGNS WOULD LIKELY REQUIRE VARIANCES. GOT IT. AND THE APPLICANT IS AWARE. YEAH. DO I HEAR A SECOND. I'LL SECOND. AND DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION. OKAY. THE ROLL PLEASE. MR. KIRBY? YES, MR. LARSON? YES.

MR. WALLACE. YES. MR. SHELL. YES. THE MOTION PASSES WITH FOUR VOTES TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION, SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS IN THE STAFF REPORT. NOTING THE INTERPRETATION ON PAGE FIVE OF THE FEBRUARY 19TH, 2020 FIVE MINUTES AND THAT ANY ADDITIONAL SIGN WILL REQUIRE ADDITIONAL VARIANCE. APPLICATION. OKAY. THANK YOU. WHAT'S YOUR BUILD SCHEDULE? AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. OKAY. HOPEFULLY THIS FALL. SO IT'LL BE PUMPING GAS THIS FALL. YOU START BUILDING START BUILDING THIS FALL. OKAY. YEP. I WISH YOU THE BEST OF LUCK. AND FOR STAFF, LET US KNOW WHEN THEY GET A OCCUPANCY PERMIT. BECAUSE THIS IS ONE OF THOSE ONES WHERE WE'RE PARTLY OUT ON A LIMB SAYING SOMETHING OTHER THAN WHAT WE WERE RECOMMENDED TO. AND IF THIS IS A MISTAKE, I'D LIKE TO KNOW AS SOON AS POSSIBLE SO THAT WE DON'T DO IT AGAIN. I'LL KEEP YOU UP TO DATE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GOOD LUCK. THANK YOU. BRINGS US BACK TO ZONING CHANGE. OH SEVEN.

CAN'T. CAN WE HEAR FROM STAFF, PLEASE? YES. GIVE ME JUST A SECOND TO GET SWITCHED BACK OVER. SURE. SORRY. YES. AND THIS. YEP. ALL RIGHT. THIS IS A REZONING APPLICATION. CASE NUMBER SEVEN OF 2025 TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 200 ACRES, GENERALLY LOCATED EAST OF BABBITT ROAD, WEST OF BEACH ROAD, AND SOUTH OF WORTHINGTON ROAD. FROM THE EXISTING AGRICULTURAL AND LG ZONING DISTRICTS TO AN LG E ZONING DISTRICT. THE APPLICANT ON THE.

THE CITY HAS PARTNERED WITH THE NEW ALBANY COMPANY IN THIS APPLICATION TO MAKE SURE THAT THE LAND THAT'S BEING REZONED AS PART OF THIS APPLICATION IS CONSISTENT WITH ALL THE STANDARDS IN THE SURROUNDING AREA, SO THAT A HARMONIOUS DEVELOPMENT PATTERN IS ACHIEVED, AND THIS PORTION OF THE BUSINESS PARK. SO BEFORE I GO A LITTLE BIT FURTHER, I KNOW WE HAVE SOME PEOPLE WATCHING ONLINE AND SOME FOLKS HERE WITH US TONIGHT IN THE ROOM. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO DOWNLOAD THE CASE MATERIALS, THAT WOULD BE THE STAFF REPORT FOR THE APPLICATION, AS WELL AS EVERYTHING THAT THE BOARD RECEIVED FOR THIS CASE, YOU CAN USE THE EITHER QR CODE, THE MOST DIRECT PATH TO GET THAT THOSE MATERIALS WOULD BE THE QR CODE ON THE RIGHT. IT'LL TAKE YOU TO A DROPBOX LINK, AND I'LL LEAVE THIS UP HERE FOR JUST A SECOND FOR EITHER FOLKS IN THE ROOM OR AT HOME TO CLICK IT. OKAY, SO AS I MENTIONED, THIS APPLICATION IS A REZONING APPLICATION FOR APPROXIMATELY 200 ACRES. THIS REZONING AREA IS OUTLINED ON YOUR SCREEN HERE IN RED, JUST TO HELP ORIENT FOLKS BOTH IN THE ROOM AND AT HOME. THE ROAD THAT'S SHOWN AT THE TOP OF THE SCREEN. THIS IS STATE ROUTE 161. THIS IS DUBLIN-GRANVILLE ROAD RIGHT NEXT TO 161. THIS IS BABBIT ROAD, AND THIS IS THE EXISTING PORTION OF CANTON PARKWAY. JUMPING A LITTLE BIT HERE. BEAR WITH ME. I'M GOING TO JUMP TO A MORE COLORFUL IMAGE HERE. SO THIS IS THE CITY ZONING MAP. AND AGAIN THE REZONING AREA IS OUTLINED IN RED HERE ON YOUR SCREEN. AS YOU CAN SEE, MOST OF THE LAND, A LARGE MAJORITY OF THIS LAND IS ALREADY INSIDE THE CITY AND ZONED LG. THE PARCELS THAT ARE THE AREA OF LAND THAT IS DOESN'T HAVE A COLOR ON TOP OF IT. THAT'S JUST THE AREA.

THAT'S THE LAND THAT'S CURRENTLY BEING ANNEXED INTO THE CITY. THAT IS THAT ANNEXATION PETITION FOR THAT GROUND HAS ALREADY BEEN FILED AND WILL BE HEARD BY CITY COUNCIL IN APRIL. ALONG WITH THIS REZONING APPLICATION, SHOULD IT PASS TONIGHT AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION. SO AGAIN, THE CITY FELT THAT IT WAS VERY IMPORTANT TO PARTNER WITH THE APPLICANT. WE APPRECIATE THE APPLICANT WORKING WITH US TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PROPOSED ZONING TEXT, THIS AREA IS VERY SIMILAR TO THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS THAT ARE FOUND IN ALL OF THE OTHER LG ZONING DISTRICTS FOUND IN THE SURROUNDING AREA. SO WE WORK WITH THEM ON THAT, AND WE BELIEVE THAT THAT HAS BEEN ACHIEVED. AGAIN, THE GOAL IS JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS THIS AREA IS DEVELOPED IN A HARMONIOUS WAY IN THE BUSINESS PARK IN THIS AREA, LARGE MAJORITY, VAST MAJORITY OF THE STANDARDS AND THE PROPOSED ZONING TEXT EXIST IN THE EXISTING BABBIT ROAD EAST REZONING, WHICH WAS HEARD BY THIS BOARD A YEAR OR SO AGO. AND THAT'S EVERY ALL THE BLUE THAT'S

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AND ALL THOSE STANDARDS HAVE BEEN PULLED OVER INTO THIS TEXT. ONE DIFFERENCE THAT I WILL POINT OUT OF THIS APPLICATION, COMPARED TO OTHER ZONING DISTRICTS IN THIS AREA IN RECENT YEARS, IS THAT PREVIOUSLY THE COMMISSION HAS LIMITED ACCESS ON BABBITT ROAD FOR EMERGENCY ACCESS ONLY, AND THAT WAS DRIVEN IN LARGE PART BY THE CITY'S, YOU KNOW, AT THE TIME THIS PROPERTY WAS ZONED, THE CITY WASN'T READY TO MAKE ANY IMPROVEMENTS TO BABBITT ROAD. SO THE COMMISSION AND STAFF AND THE APPLICANT AT THAT TIME FELT THAT IT WAS APPROPRIATE TO LIMIT ACCESS TO EMERGENCY ACCESS ONLY ON BABBITT. THE CITY IS IN THE PROCESS OF DESIGNING AND IMPROVEMENT PLAN FOR BABBITT ROAD. SOME FOLKS PROBABLY OUT THERE HAVE SEEN SOME SURVEY WORK GOING ON TO DO SOME RIGHT AWAY ANALYSIS TO SEE WHAT CAN BE DONE WITHIN THE EXISTING RIGHT OF WAY LIMITS. OUR STRATEGIC PLAN SHOWS BABBITT ROAD. IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO SEE AND I APOLOGIZE HERE.

THAT CALLS IT OUT AS THE BUSINESS CAMPUS OR BUSINESS PARK CHARACTER CLASSIFICATION FOR ROADWAY. HERE. THERE'S SOME PRECEDENT IMAGES SHOWN IN THE STRATEGIC PLAN OF WHAT THIS ROAD SHOULD LOOK LIKE THAT CAN BE SEEN HERE IN THESE BUBBLES. AGAIN, I APOLOGIZE. THIS IS REALLY HARD TO SEE, BUT YOU CAN SEE BEACH ROAD HERE. YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT SUGGESTING THAT THAT BABBITT ROAD WOULD TURN INTO BETA BY ANY MEANS. BUT WE DEFINITELY WOULD WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, ALL THE PEDESTRIAN FACILITIES IN PLACE AND THAT IT'S DESIGNED IN A WAY THAT CAN HANDLE ADDITIONAL COMMERCIAL TRAFFIC ON THAT ROADWAY. AND THEN JUST, YOU KNOW, JUMP INTO OUR STRATEGIC PLAN AS ALWAYS, AS WE ALWAYS DO TO CLOSE THIS OUT. THIS IS LOCATED IN WHAT'S SHOWN AS A MIXED USE AREA IN OUR STRATEGIC PLAN. BUT OUR STRATEGIC PLAN DOES ACKNOWLEDGE THE FACT THAT THIS AREA SHOULD BE AN EMPLOYMENT CENTER USE AS WELL, AND MIXED USE IF POSSIBLE. AND IT DOES SHOW I OUTLINED THAT AREA RIGHT HERE IN RED. BUT AGAIN, THE USE IS APPROPRIATE GIVEN ITS LOCATION IN EXISTING ALBANY BUSINESS PARK AND ITS PROXIMITY TO THE BEACH ROAD INTERCHANGE, AND STAFF IS HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND THE APPLICANT OR CO-APPLICANT IN THIS CASE IN ALBANY COMPANY IS HERE AS WELL. OKAY, TOM, DID YOU HAVE MORE TO ADD? NO, OTHER THAN JUST KIND OF PIGGYBACK ON WHAT CHRIS JUST MENTIONED. I'M SURE YOU GUYS ALL REMEMBER DURING THE ZONING SPECIFICALLY FOR GOOGLE ACCESS WAS LIMITED ON BABBITT ROAD FOR EMERGENCY ACCESS ONLY ACCESS TO THIS SITE WOULD BE LIMITED TO THE NEW LATEST EXTENSION OF GANTON PARKWAY, WHICH WOULD BE THE EAST WEST CONNECTOR. THE CITY IS IN THE PROCESS OF MAKING SOME ACQUISITIONS FOR ADDITIONAL RIGHT OF WAY AND PLANNING THROUGH SOME OF THE IMPROVEMENTS FOR BABBITT ROAD. YOU'LL NOTICE IN THE ZONING TEXT, IT LIMITS ACCESS TO THREE CURB CUTS THAT WOULD BE BASED ON FINAL REVIEW AND APPROVAL BY THE CITY ENGINEER. SO THOSE THINGS ARE HAPPENING HAND IN GLOVE. IMPORTANT FOR YOU GUYS TO ALL BE AWARE OF. I THINK IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO REMIND FOLKS ABOUT SOME OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL OPPORTUNITIES AND CONSTRAINTS ON THIS PARCEL. IT'S SHOCKING WHEN YOU DRIVE BY NOW AND SEE SOME OF THE TREE REMOVAL THAT'S OCCURRING THROUGH THE AREA. THAT IS, IT'S ACTUALLY JUST SOUTH OF THIS PIECE, BUT THAT'S HAPPENING IN LIGHT OF THE LIMITED TIME FRAME THAT IS REQUIRED FOR TREE REMOVAL. THERE'S ALSO A SIGNIFICANT UNDERLYING SIGNIFICANT TREE PRESERVATION ZONE THAT WAS COMMITTED TO JUST TO THE NORTH AND THE EAST OF THIS PARCEL. THAT'S REALLY ALL PART AND PARCEL OF THIS FUTURE DEVELOPMENT. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE FOR ME. ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WITH QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. LET'S CHECK THAT FIRST. MR. CHAIR, I'VE GOT MR. CHAIR. I HAVE TWO SPEAKER CARDS HERE, MISS DIMITRI DORAN, DIMITRI DIMITRI DORAN, MUTCHLER. I, I CAME BY BECAUSE, WELL, I'M I'M UNDERSTAND CHANGE IN THE REASON AND THE GOOD FOR ALL VERSUS THE GOOD FOR A FEW. BUT YOU'RE TALKING TO SOMEONE WHO CAME HOME FROM THE HOSPITAL WHEN SHE WAS BORN TO 5853 BABBITT ROAD. THAT IS NOT JUST A HOUSE. IT'S A FAMILY. WE'VE BEEN THERE, AND I WOULD HOPE THAT MAYBE YOU WOULD HAVE SOME NOD TO AN ESTABLISHED COMMUNITY, PEOPLE, OR TO THE FACT OR SOME EMPATHY THAT YOU'RE LOOKING NOW TO CHANGE THE ROAD YOU TOLD US WASN'T GOING TO CHANGE YOU, SAYING THREE CURB CUTS WHEN ALL THIS WAS PROPOSED AND WE KNEW IT WAS SAID THAT BEACH ROAD WAS GOING TO TAKE UP THE ROADS AND THE BIGGER TRUCKS AND ALL OF THAT. NOW YOU TALK ABOUT IMPROVEMENT ON BABBITT ROAD, BUT ISN'T IT REALLY JUST MORE OF A CHANGE FOR THE BUSINESSES TO BENEFIT? IT'S NOT AN IMPROVEMENT IN SUCH AS A BETTER ROADWAY.

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IT WOULD MAKE A LOT MORE SENSE TO MOVE IT DOWN. SO WHAT ROAD ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? I'M SORRY. THAT'S LET ME BE MORE DIPLOMATIC, BUT I SEE A BUILDING AND PAVEMENT SETBACK. IS THAT FOR AN EASEMENT? BECAUSE THAT WAS ON MY QUESTION. YEAH. THAT'S NOT AN EXISTING ROAD. NO, THAT'S A BRAND NEW ROAD THEY HAVE HERE. AND IT CROSSES FROM ONE SIDE TO THE OTHER, WHICH IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT FROM ANY PLANS THAT WERE PROPOSED PREVIOUSLY TALKED ABOUT ROAD CUTS AND MORE ROADS INTO IT. SO YOU'RE REALLY CHANGING WHAT HAD BEEN SAID THAT BABBITT WOULD REMAIN A RURAL ROAD. AND IT SPEAKS OF THAT IN THE ROCKY BLACK FORK, THE ROCKY FORK BLACKLICK ACCORD INFORMATION WHICH SAYS THAT IT RECOMMENDS IN IT ON PAGE TWO OF SIX, IT SAYS LARGE SETBACKS ALONG RURAL ROADS PRESERVE THE CHARACTER. THE SETBACK RECOMMENDATION ALONG BABBITT ROAD IS 250FT FROM THE CENTER LINE OF THE ROAD. AND YET THE ZONING TEXT CURRENTLY STATES THE SETBACK ALONG BABBITT ROAD IS 80FT FOR PAVEMENT AND 130FT FOR BUILDINGS. SO YOU'RE CHANGING WHAT HAS BEEN I THINK IT LOOKS NICE DOWN ON THE WESTERN END OF EXCUSE ME, SOUTHERN END OF BABBITT ROAD THERE WHERE YOU'VE DONE THE HILLS AND THE TREES AND SUCH. THAT'S NICE SETBACKS AND LOOKS GOOD. AND PERHAPS MISTAKENLY, I HAD HIGH HOPES THAT THAT WOULD BE WHAT WE HAD, BUT I HAVE. I CAME BECAUSE I WANTED TO KNOW WHAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THE ROAD? IS IT TO ARE THERE DEMANDS FROM WHOEVER IS BUYING? I'VE HEARD THAT'S GOING TO BE A UPS KIND OF, OR SOME KIND OF POSTAL MAILING COMPANY KIND OF THING. THAT WOULD BE A LOT OF TRUCKS IN AND OUT ON A WHAT IS AND HAS BEEN CONSIDERED A RURAL ROAD. I THOUGHT THAT'S WHY YOU PAID AND DID BEACH ROAD. WAS THAT BEACH ROAD THEN COULD HANDLE THAT KIND OF BIGGER, HEAVIER TRAFFIC. YOU DON'T HAVE HOMES ON EITHER SIDE NOW OF BEACH ROAD BECAUSE OF WHAT YOU'VE BUILT THERE. AND THAT IS WHAT WE'VE BEEN LED TO THINK WAS GOING TO BE THE MAIN ROAD THAT WOULD HANDLE THE TRAFFIC IN AND OUT FROM THE COMPUTER FARMS AND OTHER THINGS THAT ARE ALREADY THERE. SO THAT ROAD THAT I SHOWED YOU, THAT IS ON THE MAP AND GOING TO GO IS, AS I SAID, STRAIGHT INTO MY DRIVEWAY. SO I WAS HOPING A LITTLE EMPATHY HERE THAT IF BEFORE IT WAS DONE OR WHATEVER, THEY HAVE TAKEN DOWN MAJOR OLD TREES. NOW IN THE SECTION ACROSS FROM ME, SO I KNOW SOMETHING'S COMING, OR WHY TAKE DOWN THE TREES ALONG THE ROAD? IT COULD HAVE BEEN IN THE SETBACK AREA, BUT THAT'S THE NEW LAND YOU HAVE ACQUIRED. THERE YOU GO. THAT'S THE ONE THAT GOES ACROSS THERE THAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. AND THE LITTLE CUT OUT IS MY PROPERTY IN THE SQUARE BEHIND IT. THAT'S ALL. I MEAN, FIVE, EIGHT, FIVE THREE AND FIVE EIGHT, SIX THREE BABBITT ROAD. SO WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO IS, IS THAT IS WHAT HE'S HIGHLIGHTING RIGHT THERE ON THE SCREEN. SO JUST TO JUST TO BE CLEAR THAT THAT IS NOT A PROPOSED ROAD. AND IT TALKS ABOUT PAVEMENT AND EVERYTHING ON IT. THAT'S A PROPERTY PROPERTY LINE. IT TALKS ABOUT SETBACKS FROM PROPERTY LINES THAT THAT'S NOT INTENDED TO. OKAY. SO TALKING ABOUT PAVEMENT AND SUCH, I ALWAYS THOUGHT PAVEMENT WENT WITH ROADS. PAVEMENT ALSO GOES WITH THE PARKING LOT. BUT THAT'S NOT THAT'S CORRECT. THAT'S NOT

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CORRECT. DIRECTLY ACROSS. THAT'S A THAT'S A PROPERTY LINE NOT INTENDED TO BE PAVEMENT FOR VEHICLES. SO WHAT WOULD BE BACK THEN ALONG BABBITT ROAD WOULD BE THE PARKING LOTS OF STATES IN THE ACCORDS HERE. THAT WOULD BE BEHIND THE BUILDINGS. WELL, WHAT YOU CAN SEE ON THE MAP IN FRONT OF THIS ARE YOU SEE THE AREA THAT. HEY, TOM, CAN YOU USE THE POINTER, PLEASE? YEAH, RIGHT. SO OKAY. DID I JUST WAS THAT, YOU KNOW, MOVE IT UP NOW THAT WE'RE ZOOMED IN MOVE. EXCELLENT. YEAH I KNOW WHERE YOU PUT THE ROUNDABOUTS YOU'VE ALREADY BOUGHT OR IN CONTRACT. SO THAT IS A PROPERTY LINE. AND THEN ADDITIONALLY YOU'LL NOTICE THESE BUILDING AND PAVEMENT SETBACKS.

THAT IS A BUILDING SETBACK AND A PAVEMENT SETBACK HERE IT EXTENDS DOWN AND ALL THE WAY AROUND THE PERIMETER OF THE SOUTH OF THIS OF THIS SITE 100 FOOT BUILDING PAVEMENT SETBACK HERE AND HERE.

THAT SETBACK IS SHORTER, IS SMALLER AS YOU EXTEND FURTHER TO THE EAST OF 25FT. AND THE SETBACKS THAT ARE THERE ACROSS FROM MY PROPERTY, THEY ARE HERE, I SURE CAN. IS THIS THE PUSH FOR. I THINK IT'S ON THE SIDE RIGHT THERE. RIGHT. OKAY. GOTCHA. OKAY. THIS IS MY DRIVE.

I HAVE A U SHAPED DRIVEWAY. IT'S A FAMILY THING. THERE'S TWO U SHAPES ON BABBITT AND THEY'RE BOTH DAWN. BUT. SO THERE WILL BE NO CURB CUTS IN IN HERE GOING INTO THE PROPERTIES THERE. THIS ZONING TEXT THE WAY IT'S DRAFTED TODAY AND AGAIN THIS HAS BEEN WE'RE DOING THIS IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE CITY AND THEY'RE PLANNED IMPROVEMENTS IN THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER. IT LIMITS THE NUMBER OF CURB CUTS ON BABBITT ROAD TO A TOTAL OF THREE. THE PRIMARY ACCESS WILL BE FROM THE NEW EAST WEST CONNECTOR EXTENSION TO MORGANTON PARKWAY, EXTENDING ALL THE WAY OVER AROUND OKAY GREENVILLE ROAD, WHERE THOSE CURB CUTS WILL OCCUR, IS STILL TO BE DETERMINED. MY UNDERSTANDING IS, CHRIS, YOU MAY BE ABLE TO SHED SOME LIGHT ON THIS. THE CITY IS GOING OUT AND DOING SOME ANALYSIS OF EXISTING RIGHT OF WAY TODAY, WHERE OVERHEAD UTILITY LINES ARE, WHERE SWALES ARE, WHAT THE SOILS AND TREES AND THE LIKE, SO THAT THEY CAN BETTER UNDERSTAND THE GEOMETRY OF THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT MAY BE NEEDED TO BABBITT ROAD. I DON'T BELIEVE ANY KIND OF IMPROVEMENT PLAN AND SPECIFIC LOCATION FOR THOSE CURB CUTS HAS BEEN DETERMINED YET, AND IS THE IMPROVEMENTS EXPANDING THE ROAD INTO ADDITIONAL LANES? IT IS. IT WOULD BE WIDENING. IT WOULD BE WIDENING THE PAVEMENT. THAT'S CORRECT. YES. WELL, IT'S THE MAIN FLOW IS ONE LANE EACH WAY. CORRECT? CORRECT. SO YOU WERE SAYING THE ADDITIONAL LANES WOULD BE TURN LANES? LOOK, I, I'M NOT THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER. I KNOW THERE WOULD BE IMPROVEMENTS MADE TO THE ROAD. RIGHT. NOW. TO YOUR POINT, IT'S A RURAL ROAD. IT IS. WHAT IS IT? MAYBE 22FT WIDE. SOMETHING LIKE THAT. IT'S NOT WIDE ENOUGH. TODAY. THE IMPROVEMENT PLANS ARE TO BRING IT UP TO PUBLIC SPECS WHERE THAT WHERE THOSE CURB CUTS WOULD BE AND WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE, I BELIEVE IS STILL IN WORK. ARE YOU LOOKING AT ACCESS INTO THAT AREA THAT'S MORE THAN AN EMERGENCY ROAD IN QUESTION RIGHT NOW? THE REASON SO THIS IS A REZONING FROM LG TO LG. IT'S CHANGING THE DESIGN STANDARDS WHERE THOSE CURB CUTS WOULD OCCUR. YOU'RE RAISING IMPORTANT ISSUES. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO COME MEET WITH CHRIS. I'M HAPPY TO BE THERE AS WELL TO START RAISING YOUR CONCERNS SO THAT WHEN THE DESIGN FOR THAT ROAD IS BEING ESTABLISHED, YOUR ISSUES ARE BEING ADDRESSED TO YOUR SATISFACTION. THAT'S GREAT. NOW, ON THIS, WHERE IT SAYS 250FT FROM THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD ALONG THE BABBITT ROAD THERE BY ME, YOUR CUTS ARE SAYING 80 AND 130 ON ON CAN I USE. SO ARE YOU CHANGING THAT THEN SO THAT THERE YOU CAN SEE THAT TALKS ABOUT 80 AND 140 THEN SETBACKS. SO INSTEAD OF 250FT IS THAT BEING CHANGED. THAT'S 90.

SHE POINTING TO THE STANDARDS OF ROCHEFORT BLACKLICK ACCORD THAT TALKS ABOUT THAT RECOMMEND BABBITT ROAD SETBACKS BE 250FT, WHICH IS I KIND OF THINK WHAT THEY ARE DOWN TOWARD THE SOUTH END HERE IS THIS. YEAH. AND I BELIEVE YOU MIGHT HAVE BEEN READING A 90 FOR AN 80. I BELIEVE THOSE ARE 90. YEAH. I'M SORRY, I'M LOOKING AT THE 140 AND THE OTHER NUMBER ABOVE, THE

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SOUTH OF HERE WHERE WE TOUCH BABBITT. WE DO. OKAY. AND THEY WERE ORIGINALLY SO THE SOUTHERN SETBACK IS LET ME LOOK. AT THAT. YEAH. AND THAT SECTION FOR THE COUNTY LINE ZONING TEXT THAT WAS ADOPTED IN 2018, THAT SETBACK, THERE WAS A MINIMUM BUILDING SETBACK OF 250FT FROM THE CENTER LINE OF BABBITT ROAD. AND THERE'S A MINIMUM PAVEMENT SETBACK OF 100FT FROM FROM BABBITT ROAD, AS MEASURED FROM THE EDGE OF THE RIGHT OF WAY, 100. THE PAVEMENT WAS FROM RIGHT OF WAY, 100 FROM RIGHT OF WAY, CORRECT FROM THE RIGHT OF WAY. AND THE BUILDING WAS FROM CENTER. LINE. FROM CENTER. AND IN THE PROPOSED THE NINTH, THE 140 FOOT BUILDING SETBACK IS MEASURED. IT'S FROM THE CENTER LINE. FROM CENTER LINE. OKAY. SO THAT DROPPED 60FT OFF OF 60 FOOT CHANGE. FROM THE ONE QUESTION. COULD YOU GIVE US A TIMELINE ON WHAT WHAT'S GOING TO BE HAPPENING WITH OUR ROAD? AND, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF WHEN WE'RE BUILDING THE ROUNDABOUTS DOWN THERE, IT GOES TO THE ROAD AND YOU GIVE THAT INFORMATION. SO YEAH, WE'LL COORDINATE WITH OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT TEAM AND THEIR SERVICE DEPARTMENT TO MAKE SURE YOU GUYS GET NOTIFIED OF THAT. TYPICALLY WHEN WE DO REACH OUT TO FOLKS, WHEN THOSE ROADWAY PLANS ARE BEING DESIGNED AND CONSTRUCTION IS PLANNED TO START, SO WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT THAT HAPPENS, YOU GUYS AS WELL.

INFORMING ME OF THIS BEING SAID, WITHIN 200FT UP. SO DOES THAT INCLUDE EVERYBODY ON THAT? YOU SAID YOU WOULD NOTIFY US OR JUST. YEAH, THE WAY THAT I'M INTERPRETING THIS CONVERSATION IS THAT WOULD BE ALL THE PROPERTY OWNERS ON BABBITT ROAD. THAT WOULD BE GREAT. SURE. YEP.

SO OUR PAVEMENT SETBACK IN THE SOUTH IS 100FT FROM THE EDGE OF RIGHT OF WAY. AND THE NEW TEXT SAYS 90 FROM CENTER LINE. IS THIS CORRECT? LET ME GET BACK TO THAT. BECAUSE I JUST WAS READING THE TEXT AND HAD ON PAGE 2 OR 3. CAPITAL D ARABIC TO A. YEAH. SO THAT'S THE 90FT FROM THE CENTER LINE AND 100 FROM THE CENTER. AND THEN THERE IS THE, THE, THE EXISTING SETBACK THAT I GAVE YOU IS FOR COUNTY LINE. I DID NOT GIVE YOU THE EXISTING SETBACK FOR BABBITT EAST ZONING DISTRICT. LET ME PULL THAT UP REALLY QUICK FOR YOU, WHICH IS WHAT THE MAJORITY OF THE PROPERTY IS ALREADY ZONED. LET'S SEE. SORRY, EVERYBODY. YEAH. PEOPLE RAISE ISSUES. WE WORK ISSUES. THE MINIMUM PAVEMENT SETBACK FROM THE RIGHT OF WAY WAS 102 HUNDRED FOR BUILDING.

AND THE EXISTING ZONING TEXT. AND THE 100 WAS FROM THE EDGE OF THE RIGHT OF WAY. CORRECT. OKAY.

PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY ON BABBITT. YEAH. LET ME ZOOM IN HERE AND MEASURE. THE EXISTING OR THE.

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IT'S NOT VERY AGAIN I KNOW THERE ARE FOLKS OUT DOING SURVEYS NOW. THERE ARE PEOPLE OUT THERE. IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THEM YET THEY'LL THEY'LL BE THERE TOMORROW DOING SURVEYS OF TOPOGRAPHY AND TREES AND DEPTH OF PAVEMENT. SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS PART OF THAT ANALYSIS WILL INCLUDE A RECOMMENDED RIGHT OF WAY WIDTH. YES. WHICH WILL TRIGGER A PLAT WHICH YOU WILL BE NOTIFIED OF TO COME BACK TO ILLUSTRATE IN SECTIONS WILL BE PROVIDED RIGHT THAT SHOW YOU NOT ONLY THE DEPTH OF PAVEMENT, BUT THE WIDTH OF THE ROAD. BASED ON THIS ENGINEERING ANALYSIS. SO I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT CLARIFICATION FOR THIS BOARD TO BE AWARE OF. SURE. BUT THE QUESTION THAT I ASKED WAS A SIMPLE NUMBER, AND THAT IS HOW WIDE IS THE RIGHT OF WAY OR HALF THE RIGHT OF WAY ON IT. WELL, TO TOM'S POINT THAT THERE THERE ARE CHUNKS THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY RIGHT OF WAY FOR, BUT I CAN MEASURE. YEAH. MUCH OF THAT ROAD STILL HAS OWNERSHIP TO THE CENTER LINE OF THE ROAD. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S THE CASE FOR YOU AND YOUR FAMILY, BUT THERE ARE MANY PROPERTIES WHERE THERE THERE'S AN EASEMENT THAT RUNS ON AN EASEMENT, NOT A RIGHT OF WAY.

THAT'S RIGHT, THAT'S RIGHT, THAT'S RIGHT. OLD ROADS. YES YES YES. OLD FAMILY NOW. ALRIGHT. SO THERE'S A REDUCTION OF TEN FEET. OH HANG ON. SO 90 FROM CENTER LINE. AND WE WERE 100 FROM THE EDGE OF THE RIGHT OF WAY. IF IT WAS A, IF IT'S A 40 FOOT WIDE RIGHT OF WAY, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN 20 MORE FEET. SO THE ORIGINAL NUMBER WAS SOMETHING LIKE 120. AND WE'RE NOW DOWN TO 90. ROUGH MATH. OKAY. I WILL ALSO ADD I, I'M TRYING TO SCOUR THROUGH THESE THREE ZONING TEXTS, BUT WE DID ADD THE PROVISION, JUST SO THE COMMISSION KNOWS THAT ALONG, YOU KNOW, PROPERTY BOUNDARIES, WHETHER THEY'RE ON BABBITT ROAD OR ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES, IF THERE'S A RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY ACROSS THE STREET THAT'S CONSIDERED CONTIGUOUS AND WE REQUIRE THE FULL LANDSCAPING TREATMENT, WHICH IS 75% OF PASSADDHI PROVIDED ALONG THAT ROADWAY. SO WHILE THE SET UP SETBACK MIGHT BE LAST AND MORE CONSISTENT WITH OTHER SETBACKS IN THE SURROUNDING AREA, WE DO HAVE THAT ENHANCED LANDSCAPING. OUR BASE CODE DOES NOT REQUIRE THAT WHEN THERE'S AN INTERVENING STREET, BUT WE THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO ADD THAT IN THERE.

YEP. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. NEXT SPEAKER, IF WE'VE GOT ANOTHER SPEAKER CARD, WHAT IS THE PROPOSED TIMELINE FOR DOING THE. ROUNDABOUTS? WE A YEAR STAFF AND COUNCIL ARE THE TWO PEOPLE TO GET THAT. WE DO NOT GET THOSE TIMELINES. YEAH I KNOW AND TOM CAN HELP ME OUT HERE IF I'M WRONG. BUT I KNOW THAT THE SECTION NORTH OF WHAT'S SHOWN AS A ROUNDABOUT THERE, I BELIEVE IT'S 2026. SO THE SECTION OF BABBITT NORTH OF WHERE THAT ROUNDABOUT IS AND TO, TO, TO GO OUT TO BID. SO IT COULD START ANYTIME IN 2026. YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THAT'S VERY TENTATIVE.

THE REST OF THE PORTION OF THE ROAD IS GOING TO BE VERY DEPENDENT ON THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING TO THAT ANALYSIS THAT WE'RE DOING ON THE SOUTHERN PART OF BABBITT ROAD. BUT THAT'S THE INFORMATION I HAVE TODAY ABOUT THAT NORTHERN SECTION 37 57 ROUNDABOUTS THAT STAFF AROUND THE EARLIEST PART, WITH THE REST OF THAT TWO YEARS COULD BE 20. I'M HOPING I DON'T WANT TO RIP THE DIALOG, BUT NONE OF IT'S MAKING THE MINUTES BECAUSE NONE OF IT'S AT THE MIC. DID WE HAVE ANOTHER SPEAKER? YES, MR. RON FARBER YEAH. HELLO. RONALD FARBER, 55, 96 BABBITT ROAD.

ALSO, THIS PROPERTY HERE AND MY MOTHER'S 5608 KIND OF THAT TOOTH THERE. MY QUESTION IS IN REGARDS TO AND I KNOW THIS PURPOSE IS FOR AG TO GE, BUT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT. JUST WONDERING IF THERE'S ANY MORE ELEVATION INFORMATION ON THESE BUILDINGS HERE IN THE LIGHTING CONDITIONS.

I KNOW THE. HAS A TEMPORARY PARKING LOT HERE. IN THE LAST I CHECKED WITH THE CITY, THERE WAS NO BUILDING PERMITS FILED YET, SO THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY ELEVATIONS. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT DURING THIS CONSTRUCTION PHASE, THESE LIGHTS ARE. THE DIRT MOUND IS NOW ALMOST TREETOP HIGH, AND THERE'S TEMPORARY LIGHTS ON HERE ALL NIGHT. SO OUR PROPERTIES ARE NEVER DARK. SO THAT IS NOT A CONDITION THAT THAT GOES AGAINST, YOU KNOW, SCREENING OR OPAQUENESS OR FIVE YEAR OPAQUENESS BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THERE'S NO FOLIAGE ON THE TREES.

THE TREES ARE ON OUR PROPERTY. THERE IS A PRETTY DENSE FOREST RIGHT HERE, WHICH HELPS. BUT RIGHT NOW THERE'S NO NO TREES. AND THAT LIGHT IS ALL NIGHT AND THERE'S TRAFFIC. SO THIS IS A

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SO I JUST LIKE TO WONDERED IF THAT'S GOING TO CONTINUE OR HOW SOON WE'LL HAVE SOME ELEVATIONS AND GET SOME DOWNCAST LIGHTING BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH IT'S DOWNCAST, IT'S TREETOP HIGH AND IT'S BRIGHT. YEAH. GO AHEAD. OKAY. SO STILL, THE ANSWER IS NOTHING'S BEEN SUBMITTED IN TERMS OF THE BUILDING PERMIT FOR IT'S JUST TWO SHEETS PROPERTY. WE CAN WORK. WE CAN CERTAINLY WORK ON REACHING OUT TO THEM AT THAT SECURITY LIGHTING OR THE STAGING LIGHTING THAT THEY'RE USING TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S BEING DEFINITELY TURNED OFF WHEN IT'S NOT NECESSARY. WE CAN WE CAN DO THAT. WE CAN REACH OUT TO THEM. YEAH. IT'S ON ALL NIGHT LONG. EVEN NOW THEY DO WORK ALL NIGHT. SO I MEAN, THERE'S BOOMS AND TRUCKS AND TRAFFIC AND DIESEL. OKAY STUFF. YEAH. AND WE'LL, WE'LL LOOK INTO THAT PIECE AS WELL. AND I'LL REACH OUT TO YOU WHEN WE GET SOME FEEDBACK ON THAT COMMENT. WE DO. YEAH. DOES VILLAGE CODE ALLOW THAT? I KNOW THAT LIKE CERTAIN CONTRACTORS AND STUFF ARE RESTRICTED TO LIKE NO EARLIER THAN SEVEN IN THE MORNING. YEAH.

THE DEFAULT IS IT'S EITHER 7 OR 730. THAT WORK CAN'T START BEFORE THEN. AND THEN I THINK IT, I THINK IT BELIEVE THAT IT HAS TO BE OVER BY 7 TO 730. I BELIEVE IT'S FIVE RIGHT NOW.

THERE ARE SOME EXCEPTIONS THAT ARE MADE AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CITY ADMINISTRATOR, BUT I'M CANDIDLY NOT 100% SURE THAT ONE HAS BEEN MADE FOR SHH. CAN THAT BE CHECKED ON BEHALF OF THE RESIDENT? WE WILL. YEAH. THANK YOU. AND THEN SECONDLY, I DON'T KNOW IF THE IMPROVEMENTS WILL INCLUDE THE ENTIRE BABBITT ROAD. I KNOW THAT WE DID GET THE LETTER FROM THE CITY. THANK YOU FOR NOTIFYING US OF THE CIVIL THAT'S GOING ON, BUT WOULD THAT INCLUDE THE PROPERTIES TO THE SOUTH ALSO OR WILL BE CONTINUOUS? YEAH. OR JUST HALF A ROAD. NO I THINK THAT'S THE THAT'S THE GOAL IS THAT IT WOULD, YOU KNOW, IDEALLY BE THAT ENTIRE SECTION ALL THE WAY DOWN TO MORSE ROAD. BUT AGAIN PREFACING THAT WITH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE OUT THERE, AS TOM MENTIONED, STUDYING THAT ROAD RIGHT NOW. RIGHT NOW, I WAS THERE THE DAY AND I SAW THE SURVEYORS OUT THERE DOING THAT WORK. SO THEY'RE DOING THAT ANALYSIS TO SEE WHAT IMPROVEMENTS CAN BE MADE WITHIN THE EXISTING RIGHT OF WAY, WHICH WOULD HELP INFORM THAT THOSE DESIGN PLANS. OKAY. AND THEN ALSO, I NOTICED SINCE THE SCREENINGS NORMALLY REQUIRED AS A BUFFER ALONG THE ROADWAY, NOT NECESSARILY ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS, SINCE THIS IS 100FT FROM THE PROPERTY LINE, WOULD THAT HAVE SCREENING CORRECT AS PART OF THE LANDSCAPING PLAN? YES, BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH IT'S 70FT IN THE AIR, IT'S 70FT HIGHER PROBABLY THAN THAT PROPERTY, THE 70FT. WHAT WAS THE SORRY WHAT 70FT HEIGHT FOR THIS VERSUS THE HEIGHT OF OUR PROPERTY IS PROBABLY 70FT HIGHER. THERE'S LIKE IT GOES UP TOPOLOGY. THERE'S A LOT OF TOPOLOGY THERE.

YES. YEAH. SO THEY WOULD THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO INSTALL WITHIN THAT 100 FOOT SETBACK AREA THAT 75% OF SCREENING, ANY MOUNDING THAT'S REQUIRED IN THE ZONING TEXT ALONG THAT ENTIRE PROPERTY LINE BECAUSE IT'S RESIDENTIALLY ZONED. SO THEY WOULD HAVE TO RAISE BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THE CIVIL AND EXCAVATION IS HIGHER ALREADY FOR THE TEMPORARY PARKING LOT. AND I CAN'T IMAGINE THEY'RE GOING TO TEAR THAT BACK OUT FOR THE PARKING LOT ITSELF. I DON'T THINK THAT THEY THEY DON'T PLAN TO HAVE THAT PARKING LOT THERE FOREVER. SO IT WILL BE TORN OUT, RIGHT? IT WILL BECOME A FOUNDATION. I ASSUME THEY CAN CONVERT IT TO A FOUNDATION. NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE, NO. SO THERE WON'T BE ANY BUILDING THERE. SORRY, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE EXISTING OR THE EXISTING TEMPORARY LOT IS. YEAH, THEY THEY CANDIDLY, THEY HAVE NOT SHARED ANY OF THEIR PLANS WITH US. NO. OKAY. SO NOTHING PERMANENT BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T PERMITTED IT. DON'T HAVE A PERMIT FOR ANYTHING PERMANENT. YEAH. YEAH OKAY OKAY. BUT FEEL FREE TO REACH OUT. I MEAN I'M HAPPY TO TALK TO YOU. WE TALK A LOT, BUT I CAN SHARE THAT WITH YOU. AND WHEN THAT HAPPENS. THANK YOU. KEEP AN EYE ON THE SCREENING THAT GOES ON. BECAUSE IF IT'S NOT SCREENED ACCORDING TO THE TEXT, THAT IS A ZONING VIOLATION. AND YOU CAN INFORM THE CITY. YEAH, THAT WOULD THAT OCCUR IN THE BUILDING AREA OR ON MY PROPERTY SCREEN THAT WOULD BE ON THEIR PROPERTY WITHIN THE 100 FOOT SETBACK. NOW YOU COULD ASK THEM TO SCREEN ON YOUR PROPERTY.

THEY DON'T HAVE TO DO IT. THEY DON'T DO ANYTHING ON YOUR PROPERTY. BUT BUT WELL, SOMETIMES THEY HAVE THERE HAVE BEEN AGREEMENTS MADE ON BEACH AND SOME THE OTHER PLACES WHERE THE RESIDENTS SAID, YOU CAN PUT IT ON MY SIDE OF THE LINE, I'M, I'M COOL WITH YOU PLANTING TREES AND THINGS ON MY SIDE OF THE LINE. AND THAT PROVIDES THE OPACITY IN A WAY

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THANK YOU. OKAY. WERE THERE OTHER SPEAKERS? THAT'S ALL, MR. CHAIR. OKAY. WAS THERE ANYONE ELSE FROM THE PUBLIC WHO DIDN'T? PERHAPS SPEAKER CARD WHO WISHED TO SPEAK ON THIS ISSUE? I AM CURIOUS TO THE MIC. TO THE MIC NAME AND ADDRESS TO THE MIC. I AM KIND OF CURIOUS WHAT'S HAPPENING TO THE HOUSES ON THE NORTHERN END OF BABBITT ROAD WHERE THE CIRCLES ARE GOING IN THE ROUNDABOUTS? I DON'T THINK I HEARD THE NAME IN THE ADDRESS. NAME'S DIRK STEVENS AND YOUR ADDRESS, 6111 BABBITT ROAD. THANK YOU. I'M IN THE GREEN SECTION AT THE TOP LEFT. OKAY. I HAVE A ROUNDABOUT GOING IN MY FRONT YARD. IT WILL APPEAR, AND THERE'S SEVERAL HOUSES THAT LOOK LIKE THEY'RE GOING TO BE LEVELED FOR THE SAKE OF US. ROUNDABOUT. I WAS KIND OF CURIOUS. YEAH.

INFORMATION I COULD GET FROM YOU. SURE. TALK TO STAFF. AND AS A PERSON WHO'S HAD FOR YEARS THE SAME PLANS THAT HAD A ROAD, MARKET STREET, GOING THROUGH MY HOUSE AND MY BARN UNTIL I FINALLY SAID, STOP IT. THEY WON'T DO IT BECAUSE THEY DON'T OWN YOUR PROPERTY. SO UNLESS YOU SOLD THEM YOUR PROPERTY, YOUR HOUSE STAYS THERE. WELL, HOW ACCURATE IS THIS MAP? I AND IT'S NOT IT'S NOT FINAL DESIGN LIKE FULLY ENGINEERED PLANS. BUT I WOULD IMAGINE IT'S PRETTY ACCURATE. YEAH. WELL CAN YOU SCROLL TO THE TOP OF THE. YEAH. THERE YOU GO. YOU SEE THE ONES IN THE BLUE SQUARE AT THE TOP, THE ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE ROAD. GO UP RIGHT THERE. THEY DON'T OWN THAT. AND THEY HAVE ONE RIGHT BELOW IT TO CUT THROUGH THE FRONT YARD. THEY DON'T KNOW THAT THOSE ARE STILL PRIVATE, BUT THE MAP SHOWS GO THROUGH IT. YEAH I THINK FOR THE PURPOSES OF THIS MAP JUST ILLUSTRATING, YOU KNOW, A POTENTIAL DESIRED CONNECTION, BUT CERTAINLY THAT, YOU KNOW, THESE LOTS AREN'T ACQUIRED IN THE RIGHT WAY IS NOT PERCEIVED.

AND THESE, THESE WOULD THESE WOULD NOT TRANSLATE TO FINAL DESIGN DRAWINGS. DO YOU EXPECT SOMETHING FROM THAT? I, I DON'T KNOW OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD I'D SAY LATER LATER THIS YEAR FOR THAT THAT THE NEXT SECTION OF GANON PARKWAY BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THAT IF YOU TAKE TWO STEPS BACK THAT WAY, THAT WAY, YOU'RE TALKING ACROSS THE MIC INSTEAD OF AWAY FROM THE MIC, GO AHEAD AND TALK TO CHRIS. BUT NOW YOU'RE TALKING TO CHRIS THROUGH THE MIC, AND WE'LL MAKE IT EASIER FOR PEOPLE TO TRANSCRIBE. YEAH, IT'S FOR THE MINUTES TO BE. YEAH, I WAS GETTING CLOSER TO THEM BECAUSE I CAN'T HEAR HIM. OKAY. OH, I'M SO SORRY. I WILL SPEAK UP. THERE YOU GO.

THERE WE GO OKAY I APOLOGIZE. WHAT WAS YOUR QUESTION AGAIN? I'M SO SORRY. WELL, I WAS JUST TRYING, LIKE, SAY, GET AS MUCH INFORMATION ABOUT WHEN, WHERE AND HOW. YEAH, ALL THAT'S BEING DONE, BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY INFORMATION THAT I HAVE. AND, YOU KNOW, YOU TRY TO PLAN ACCORDINGLY. SURE. BUT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT THIS ISN'T WRITTEN IN STONE YET, SO YOU DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. YEAH. AND AGAIN, IT'S BEING STUDIED AND FINALIZED RIGHT NOW IS WHAT I'M WHAT I'M INTENDING TO SAY. I CAN GET YOUR CONTACT INFORMATION AND CONNECT YOU WITH THE FOLKS THAT ARE WORKING ON THE ENTIRE STRETCH OF CANTON PARKWAY, BECAUSE THERE'S MORE PIECES OF CANTON PARK THAT GO INTO FRANKLIN COUNTY AND SHARE THAT WITH YOU. I CAN DO THAT. THAT'S SOMETHING. ROUNDABOUTS PROBABLY IN BETTER SHAPE THAN THE NORTHERN ROUNDABOUT. FOR THAT REASON, THE OWNERSHIP ALL AROUND THAT SOUTHERN ROUNDABOUT IS WHAT'S THE RIGHT. SO THERE'S TWO ROUNDABOUTS SHOWN. AND THE CONNECTION BETWEEN THE TWO GOES THROUGH PROPERTY THAT IS NOT UNDER THE DEVELOPER'S CONTROL. RIGHT. YEAH. OKAY. SO THE PART THAT DOESN'T THAT GOES THROUGH THAT BLUE BLOCK THAT THAT WHITE BLOCK WITH THE BLUE BOUNDARY.

YEAH THAT'S FICTION AS FAR AS ANYONE'S CONCERNED. UNTIL OWNERSHIP IS ACQUIRED BY SOMEONE WHO WANTS A ROAD TO GO THERE, IT SIMPLY WON'T. YEAH. OKAY. FURTHER SOUTH WHERE THAT FIRST ROUNDABOUT IS THE LOWER ONE ON THIS DIAGRAM. THAT'S ALL OWNED BY ONE ENTITY WHO PROBABLY THINKS THIS IS ABOUT WHERE IT OUGHT TO GO. AND SO THAT'S PROBABLY A LOT LIKELIER TO HAPPEN THERE. BUT WHERE IT GOES EAST FROM THERE, I'M SORRY. WEST FROM THERE IS UNSURE BECAUSE ONCE THEY HIT THE CENTER LINE OF BABBITT ROAD, THEY NEED IT TO DO THINGS. AND IF THEY DON'T, AND I SEE THAT'S WHERE ALL THE TRAFFIC IS GOING TO GO. FROM CANTON ROAD ALL THERE. SO THAT'S GOING TO BE TWO LANE OR FOUR LANE GOING OUT TO THOSE ROUNDABOUTS. AND WERE YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT GETTING

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EXISTING ZONING TEXT LANGUAGE ABOUT GROUND MOUNTED EQUIPMENT IN GENERAL, PERHAPS, AND SEE WHAT WE'VE DONE IN OTHER TEXT AND THE REST OF THE BUSINESS PARK. OKAY, I KNOW THAT IT'S BEEN ADDRESSED IN OTHER SECTIONS OF THE BUSINESS PARK. I JUST CAN'T THINK OF WHICH ONE OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD RIGHT NOW. OKAY. BUT CERTAINLY WE CAN DO THAT ON THAT SAME PAGE. CAN WE ON.

ARABIC SIX ROOF MOUNTED EQUIPMENT, ALL ROOF MOUNTED EQUIPMENT. CAN WE PUT THE WORDS EXCEPT SOLAR PANELS SHALL BE GOOD CATCH. YES. THAT DOES NOT APPLY TO SOLAR PANELS. YES WE CAN. WE CAN DO THAT. TWO. ON THE PRESERVATION AREA IS PAGE TEN, ITEM TEN. IT TALKS ABOUT HANG ON. WE DO SHALL PRESERVE EXISTING HEALTHY AND MATURE TREES AND VEGETATION. CAN WE PUT NONINVASIVE IN FRONT OF THE WORD VEGETATION SO THAT IT'S OPEN SEASON ON THE INVASIVES. SO SOMEONE DOESN'T SAY YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO TAKE ANYTHING OUT OF HERE? IT'S LIKE, CAN I GET RID OF THE, YOU KNOW, CALLERY PEARS AND WHAT THE OTHER ONE IS THAT'S THREATENING TO TAKE OVER THE WORLD? SURE. AND WOULD YOU MIND TELLING ME WHICH PAGE AGAIN? I'M SO SORRY. PAGE TEN, ITEM TEN.

GOTCHA. MIDDLE OF THE BIG FAT PARAGRAPH. OKAY, SO JUST ADDING SOME LANGUAGE THAT CLARIFIES THAT NONINVASIVE NON INVASIVE IS PROTECTED. SURE. YEAH I CAN DO THAT. PERHAPS WE COULD CHANGE THE CITY WIDE DEFINITION OF VEGETATION TO EXCLUDE INVASIVE SPECIES THAT WE COULD GET RID OF. GOOD IDEA. DOES THIS TEXT LIMIT CUTTING OF THE UNDERSTORY. DOES THAT COME UNDER VEGETATION? I DO NOT BELIEVE SO. SO SOMEONE COULD TAKE A NATURAL WOODS AND RUN THEIR MOWER THROUGH IT. AS LONG AS THEY DON'T RUN OVER TREES, THEY COULD TAKE IT DOWN TO THE POINT WHERE IT'S JUST GRASS AND TREES. SORRY, I'M TRYING TO READ WHILE YOU'RE TALKING TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M SAYING THE RIGHT THING. SO NOW WE'VE DEALT WITH THIS BEFORE. WE COULD CERTAINLY ADD THAT IF IT'S NOT IN HERE, I'M JUST READING THROUGH HERE TO SEE THAT THEY PRESERVE THE TREES AND THE EXISTING UNDERSTORY IN THE PAST. YEAH. IS IDENTIFIED AS PRESERVATION ZONES DO NOT ALLOW YOU TO GO INTO THE THEY JUST DON'T THEY JUST DON'T TOUCH IT. CAN WE HAVE CLARITY ON THAT.

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CAN WE JUST GET G FOR UPLIGHTING? HOW MARRIED ARE YOU TO UPLIGHTING THAT USUALLY COMES INTO PLAY FOR SIGNS OR LANDSCAPE? UPLIGHTING. WHY DO THE TREES NEED THE UNDERSIDE OF THEIR LEAVES LIT? SORRY. YEAH, IT'S USUALLY THE WAY WE'VE INTERPRETED THAT. TOM JUMP IN IF I'M WRONG, BUT IS IF THERE'S SIGNAGE AND THERE'S A LANDSCAPE ELEMENT AT THE BASE OF THE SIGN, IT ALLOWED, YOU KNOW, THE SIGNS. THE DUKE AND DUCHESS ON 62 HERE HAS IT WHERE THERE'S AN UPLIT.

THERE'S A UPLIT LIGHT FOR THE SIGN ITSELF, AND IT'S BASED IN LIKE A LANDSCAPE BED. THAT'S WHAT THAT'S GETTING. TOM. I DON'T KNOW IF. YEAH. IF YOU WANT TO CLARIFY THAT I DIDN'T GO LOOKING FOR SIGNAGE AND NOT FOR LANDSCAPING. OKAY. GROUND MOUNTED. CAN WE GET AWAY FROM UPLIGHTING OR SIGNS AND GET TO OVERHEAD LIGHTING OF OUR SIGNS? YEAH. I MEAN, CANDIDLY, THE MOST OF THE SIGNS OUT HERE IN THE BUSINESS PARK, IT'S A IT'S A, IT'S A DOWNCAST LIGHT ANYWAY. SO TOM, IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE OKAY WITH THAT. YEAH, I KNOW YOUR SENSITIVITY TO UPLIGHTING. YEAH.

IN LIGHTING IN GENERAL. YEP. THE MY OWN OPINION IS THERE NEEDS TO BE CONSISTENCY IN SIGNAGE AND LIGHTING OF SIGNAGE. OKAY. AND THAT IS CRITICAL TO THE OVERALL ESTHETIC OF THIS PART OF THE BUSINESS CAMPUS. THERE HAVE BEEN, AS YOU'RE WELL AWARE, MULTIPLE EXAMPLES OF WHERE UPLIGHTING FOR SIGNAGE HAS GONE IN AND HAS BEEN ADJUSTED, WHETHER THROUGH THE HEIGHT OF THE SIGN OR THE HEIGHT OF THE OF THE FIXTURE, TO ELIMINATE OR MINIMIZE ANY LIGHT POLLUTION, I'D BE MUCH MORE COMFORTABLE ADDING SOMETHING IN HERE THAT THAT REGULATED IT OR CONTROLLED IT IN THAT WAY, THEN JUST OUT AND OUT PROHIBITING IT. OKAY, SO LANDSCAPE UPLIGHTING IS PROHIBITED. PROHIBITED. OKAY. SO SHALL WE. SO 12345. NO LANDSCAPE. UPLOADING. SIGN OF LIGHTING. WE USE A THAT ALL FIXTURES SHALL BE CUT OFF SHALL BE DOES ZERO CAN I SAY ZERO.

SPILL THAT. ALL THE LIGHT COMING OUT OF THE UNIT HITS THE SIGN. YEAH OKAY. ZERO SPILL. OKAY, STEPH, IS THAT CLEAR? OKAY. YES. THANK YOU. AND THEN I HIT THE END OF THE PAGE. ALL RIGHT.

OTHER COMMISSION MEMBERS. ANYBODY GOT A GROCERY LIST OF ITEMS THAT CAUGHT YOUR EYE DOWN HERE? OKAY. NOTHING HERE. WHICH TAKES US TO ACTUALLY, WHAT DOES THE COMMISSION FEEL ABOUT THE CHANGES IN SETBACKS? THERE'S A 60 FOOT BUILDING CHANGE BETWEEN THE 200FT THAT HAD BEEN IN VARIOUS PLACES. AND THE 140 CALLED FOR HERE. CRICKETS. ANY OPINIONS OR DO WE GO WITH WHAT'S PRESENTED? OH, IS IT IS IT'S CONSISTENT WITH OTHER AREAS THAT ARE ZONED SIMILARLY. RIGHT. SOME YES SOME NO. BECAUSE WE PULLED OUT THE 200 FOOT BUILDING SETBACK FROM CENTER LINE IN OTHER DISTRICTS NEARBY. RIGHT. WAS IT. YES. OKAY. BUT THE POINT OF IT BEING CONSISTENT WITH IT IS CONSISTENT. THERE ARE FLUCTUATIONS THROUGHOUT THE BUSINESS PARK. OKAY. SO DO WE MAKE SO ARE YOU SAYING SO YOU'RE SUGGESTING THAT WE GO WITH THE LARGER SETBACK, WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH LARGER SETBACKS IN OTHER AREAS THAT ARE SIMILARLY ZONED. RIGHT. SO JUST SOUTH OF HERE WE'VE GOT A 200 FOOT SETBACK. IF I HEARD THAT RIGHT, THE COUNTY COUNTY LINE OR COUNTY LINE IS YES, THERE'S A DIFFERENT SETBACK. CORRECT. OKAY. I WOULDN'T BE OPPOSED TO

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WE'VE HEARD FROM RESIDENTS THEIR CONCERNS. WE HAVE ADDED ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE IN THE ZONING TEXT THAT INCREASES THE OBLIGATION FOR SCREENING AND MOUNDING WHEN IT IS ACROSS THE STREET FROM AN EXISTING RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY, WHICH WE ARE HONORING AND ADDING INTO THE ZONING TEXT. THE REQUEST FOR REDUCED SETBACK IS NOT A BLANKET REQUEST OR SOMETHING THAT WAS DONE WITHOUT A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF WORK AND FORETHOUGHT. THAT'S WHY WE ADDED THOSE ADDITIONAL STIPULATIONS. SO I WOULD REQUEST THAT WE LEAVE THE SETBACKS AS AS ARE BEING REQUESTED. IT'S SOMETHING WE'RE HAPPY TO REVISIT WHEN WE COME IN WITH A PLAT FOR THE ROAD AND TALK ABOUT IF THERE NEEDS TO BE A REEVALUATION OF INCREASING OR MODIFYING THOSE SCREENING REQUIREMENTS. SO I THROW THAT OUT AS AN OPTION TO HOPEFULLY ADDRESS CONCERNS THAT MAY THAT MAY ARISE. OKAY. THANK YOU. OTHER QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS FROM THE COMMISSION. NO. OKAY. WHERE AM I? I MOVE TO ACCEPT THE STAFF REPORT AND RELATED DOCUMENTS INTO THE RECORD FOR ZONING CHANGE. SEVEN 2025 WILL HEAR SECOND ON THE DOCUMENTS SECOND. IS DISCUSSION ON THE DOCUMENTS MOTION OKAY. THE ROLL PLEASE, MR. KIRBY? YES, MR. YES. MR. LARSON YES. MR. SHELL? YES. MOTION PASSES WITH ALL VOTES TO ADMIT THE DOCUMENTS. OKAY. THERE ARE SOME I HAD. I WAS TRYING TO KEEP TRACK. I NUMBERED THEM, SO NUMBER ONE WAS NOTICE TO THE PROPERTY OWNER. OKAY, THAT'S MY NUMBER. SO YOU'RE NUMBER ONE.

ADD TO THAT. DON'T POINT THE GENERATOR EXHAUST AT THE NEIGHBORS. YEP. THAT'S PAGE SEVEN OKAY. PAGE SEVEN NOT DIRECTED TO. YEP. THAT'S GOOD. NEXT AFTER THAT IS IN SIX. SOLAR PANEL IS EXCEPT SOLAR PANELS. NEXT ONE WAS ON PAGE TEN. AND PAGE TEN. NONINVASIVE PLANTINGS.

NONINVASIVE PLANTINGS ARE NOT PROTECTED AND FOLLOWED BY NOT ALLOWED TO CLEAR THE UNDERSTORY.

SO IT'S EITHER FOUR OR 5 OR 4. OKAY. UPLIGHTING DISCUSSION. AND THEN THE LAST IS THE NO LANDSCAPE. UPLOADING AND SIGN UPLOADING SHALL HAVE ZERO SPILL. OKAY. SO I'M GOING TO LEAVE THE SETBACKS PERFECT. YOU'RE GOING TO LEAVE THE SETBACKS AS REQUESTED. WHOEVER MAKES THE MOTIONS GET TO TALK ABOUT THAT ONE. BUT THAT'S WHAT WE HEARD. DO WE. THE APPLICANT SAID THEY WOULD CERTAINLY CONSIDER. REVISITING THE SCREENING REQUIREMENTS THAT ROAD PLANTINGS. YEAH. SO WE'LL DEFINITELY HOLD TO THAT COMMITMENT. IS YOUR MIC LIVE. NO NO OKAY. WE'LL BE DISCUSSED I USUALLY. WHERE THE CONDITIONS OR THE CHANGES TO THE TEXT CLEAR.

DO I HEAR A MOTION FOR THE ZONING CHANGE ITSELF? WAS THAT WAS THE SEVENTH CONDITION REGARDING REVISITING SCREENING. IS THAT CLEAR OR THE SIXTH OR SEVENTH COMMISSIONER? YES.

CONDITION. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. NEIL, WHY DON'T YOU MAKE THE MOTION SINCE YOU SORT OF WE DISCUSSED WHAT THEY WERE, BUT I THINK YOU'RE YOU GOT IT CLEAR. I MOVE FOR APPROVAL. ZONING CHANGE. OH SEVEN 2025. SUBJECT TO THE CONDITION IN THE STAFF REPORT. LET ME START THERE.

THERE WEREN'T ANY CONDITIONS. SO OUR YOU HAVE A WHAT WAS YOUR FIRST CONDITION THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER IS ON? NOTIFICATION WILL BE NOTED NOTIFIED. PRIOR TO PLANNING.

RIGHT AWAY. PRIOR TO PLANNING THE ROAD PLANTING. SORRY. PLANNING TRIGGERS NOTIFICATION WHEN IT DOESN'T. NORMALLY I DIDN'T HEAR THE VERB OKAY. THEN ON PAGE SEVEN ABOUT HVAC ETC.

DON'T POINT THE EXHAUST AT THE NEIGHBORS OR SIMILAR TEXT. NUMBER SIX ROOF MOUNTED EQUIPMENT. ALL ROOF MOUNTED EQUIPMENT EXCEPT SOLAR PANELS BE SHALL BE REQUIRED TO BE

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OKAY, PAGE 11. UPLOADING. NO LANDSCAPE UPLOADING AND SIGN UPLOADING SHALL BE ADJUSTED TO HAVE ZERO SPILL. GOT IT. I THOUGHT THERE WAS ALSO AN AGREEMENT THAT LANDSCAPE SIGNAGE COULD BE SUBJECT TO STAFF APPROVAL. IF SUBJECT TO STAFF APPROVAL. OKAY. OH WAIT, NO LANDSCAPE LIGHTING ONE WAY PERIOD. THE SIGN UP LIGHTING. OH DID IT. YEAH. OKAY. THAT'S FINE.

I HAD WRITTEN UP LIGHTING ONLY FOR SIGNING SIGNAGE. AND THEN YOU HAD ONE LAST ONE, WHICH I DON'T HAVE. I WROTE IT DOWN. OH, THIS IS THE APPLICANT AGREEING TO VISITING THE SCREEN. YEP. THE APPLICANT AGREED TO REVISIT SCREENING AT ROAD PLANTINGS. OKAY. ARE THE CONDITIONS CLEAR? YES. DO I HEAR A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. EXCUSE ME. I'LL SECOND. SORRY ABOUT THAT. FURTHER DISCUSSION OF THE MOTION. OKAY. TO THE ROLL, PLEASE, MR. KIRBY? YES, MR. WALLACE? YES. MR. LARSON. YES. MR. SHELL? YES. MOTION PASSES WITH ALL VOTES TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION, SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS. NOTED. NOTIFICATION REQUIREMENT IN THE TEXT PLATTING, PAGE SEVEN. NO EXHAUST AT THE NEIGHBOR'S. PAGE SEVEN ON THE SCREENING REQUIREMENT. THE ROOF SCREENING REQUIREMENT APPLIES TO EVERYTHING EXCEPT FOR SOLAR PANELS PAGE. AND. NUMBER TEN.

YES THERE IS A NON INVASIVE. THE VEGETATION IS NOT NON. THIS APPLIES TO DOESN'T APPLY TO NON INVASIVE VEGETATION ON AND THE UNDERSTORY SHOULD NOT BE CLEARED RIGHT. SO INVASIVES ARE NOT PROTECTED. MIGHT BE AN EASIER WAY TO READ THAT. THANK YOU. IT'S TOO LATE FOR ME. SO UNDER ON PAGE 11 G FOUR NO LANDSCAPE UPLIGHTING PERIOD AND SIGN LIGHTING SHALL BE, SHALL BE, SHALL ELIMINATE SPILL SUBJECT TO STAFF APPROVAL. YEP. AND THAT'S IT. AND THE LAST ONE WAS THE REVISIT THE REVISITING SCREENING. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SO EVERYTHING'S CLEAR OKAY. AND WE VOTED. RIGHT. OKAY. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. TO GO TO MOVE ON I HAVE FOUR LITTLE DOTS AND A 4 TO 0 BECAUSE I TRACKED THAT. YEAH. THE ONES WE HAD A MOTION PASSED WITH ALL VOTES IN FAVOR SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS AS STATED. THANK YOU. TAKES US TO OTHER BUSINESS. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER BUSINESS BEFORE THE COMMISSION TONIGHT FROM STAFF. OKAY. ALL MEMBERS FOR COMMENT. COMMENT.

THANK YOU DAVE. NOTHING. THANK YOU

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