[I. Call to order]
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GOOD EVENING. I'D LIKE TO CALL TO ORDER THIS MEETING OF THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD.
MONDAY, APRIL 14TH, 2025. COULD WE PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? MR. HENSON? HERE. MR. ITEM. YES. MR. BROWN. HERE. MR. STRASSLER. HERE. MISS MOORE. HERE. MR. MALITZ. HERE. MR. DAVIES.
COUNCIL MEMBER. BRISK. THERE'S SIX VOTING MEMBERS PRESENT. WE HAVE A QUORUM. THANK YOU. IS
[III. Action on minutes: March 10, 2025]
THERE ANY ACTION ON THE MINUTES OF THE MARCH 10TH, 2025 MEETING? I HAVE NO CHANGES. AND IF NO ONE ELSE HAS ANY. NO ONE ELSE HAS A CHANGE. THEN I WOULD. I WOULD MOVE APPROVAL OF THOSE MINUTES.SECOND. MR. EATON? YES. MR. STRASSLER. YES. MR. BROWN? YES. MISS MOORE. ABSTAIN. WE'RE VOTING ON THE MINUTES, MR. DAVIS. MR. DAVIES? YES. MR. MALIK'S ABSTAIN. MR. HENSON.
ABSTAIN. THE MOTION PASSES WITH FOUR VOTES IN FAVOR OF APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES AS SUBMITTED.
[IV. Additions or corrections to the agenda]
THANK YOU. STAFF, DO WE HAVE ANY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS TO THIS EVENING'S AGENDA? WE DO NOT.THANK YOU. SEEING THAT AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO ADMINISTER THE OATH TO ALL WITNESSES AND APPLICANTS WHO PLAN TO ADDRESS THIS BOARD. IF YOU PLEASE, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY VISITORS HERE TONIGHT FOR ITEMS NOT ON OUR AGENDA FOR THIS EVENING? SEEING NONE, I'LL MOVE FORWARD WITH OUR FIRST CASE. A
[VI. Cases]
OR B 80 2024 FOR CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS. TO ALLOW MULTIPLE EXTERIOR CHANGES AT 20 SOUTH HIGH STREET, INCLUDING SIDING, WINDOW WELLS, WINDOWS, AS WELL AS WINDOW AND GARAGE DOOR REPLACEMENTS. THE APPLICANT IS BUSH REAL ESTATE LLC. WE HAVE A STAFF REPORT, PLEASE. YES.THANK YOU. SO AS YOU MENTIONED, THIS IS AN APPLICATION TO ALLOW SEVERAL EXTERIOR MODIFICATIONS AT 20 SOUTH HIGH STREET, WHICH IS THE PROPERTY SHOWN HERE IN RED ON THE SCREEN. SO AS THE BOARD MAY RECALL, THIS APPLICATION WAS TABLED BY THE ARB IN FEBRUARY. THE IRB HAD SEVERAL QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS ON THE CASE THAT EITHER WERE MISSING FROM THE APPLICATION MATERIALS, OR WERE NOT ABLE TO BE ANSWERED. AS THE APPLICANT WAS NOT IN ATTENDANCE AT THE MEETING. SO THE APPLICATION WAS TABLED. THE APPLICANT DID RESUBMIT THE DRAWINGS. WE SHARED THE MEETING RECORDING WITH THEM. THEY DID REVISE THE DRAWINGS TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS THAT THEY HEARD ON THE RECORDING. THE CITY ARCHITECT REVIEWED THE REVISION AND BELIEVES THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE, THE, THE, THE, THE, THE DRAWINGS HAVE BEEN REVISED SUFFICIENTLY TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT THEY HEARD. THE CITY ARCHITECT STILL DOES RECOMMEND A CONDITION OF APPROVAL THAT THE PROJECT ARCHITECT MUST CLOSELY COORDINATE WITH THE BUILDER TO ENSURE THE PORCH TRIM DETAILS ARE EXECUTED APPROPRIATELY, CONSISTENT WITH THE APPROVED PLANS. THE APPLICANT IS HERE TONIGHT. ARC FLUENCE. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. BUT THEY THEY ARE HERE AS WELL TO ANSWER. QUESTIONS AS WELL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. APPLICANT WANTS TO COME UP AND INTRODUCE THEMSELVES. FOR THE RECORD PLEASE. SO WE'RE HERE ON BEHALF OF WAS IT BUSH TAX LLC. BUT OUR CLIENTS WERE THE ARCHITECTS. MY NAME IS PAUL. NICK CLEMENTS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE'LL I'LL THROW THIS OUT TO THE BOARD FOR THEIR COMMENTS ON THE SUGGESTED CHANGES FROM OUR PREVIOUS REVIEW. YOU HAVE ANY CLARIFYING QUESTION, PLEASE? IT SEEMS AS THOUGH THE CHANGES THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED TONIGHT ARE IN RESPONSE TO THE COMMENTS THAT WE SHARED AT. I THINK IT WAS EITHER 2 OR 3 MEETINGS AGO. I DON'T I DIDN'T NOTE ANY CHANGES IN SCOPE. SO IS THE SCOPE REMAINING UNCHANGED OTHERWISE? I MEAN, I SEE THAT THERE ARE SOME ADDITIONAL WINDOWS, BUT OTHERWISE FROM A MACRO STANDPOINT, THE SCOPE ARE WE TO ASSUME THE SCOPE IS THE SAME? THE SCOPE IS THE SAME. OKAY.
ESSENTIALLY THE APPLICATION THERE WAS CLARIFICATION ADDED NOTES ADDED IN RESPONSE SPECIFICALLY TO THE COMMENTS. WHICH AGAIN, IF YOU WANT TO GO THROUGH OR DISCUSS ANY OF THOSE COMMENTS LIKE WE'RE WELCOME TO THAT. BUT ESSENTIALLY WE LISTEN TO THE REVIEW MEETING AND WE KIND OF GENERATED A RESPONSE BASED ON THAT. SO THERE'S REALLY NO CHANGE IN SCOPE TO PREVIOUSLY WHAT WAS SUBMITTED. IT'S THE SAME SUBMISSION. BUT LIKE WE ALSO, FOR EXAMPLE, ADDED A
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RENDERING. SO YOU CAN SEE BEFORE AND AFTER. AND THANK YOU FOR PROVIDING THE RENDERING. THAT WAS VERY HELPFUL. APPRECIATE THAT. I THINK MY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS, AND I'LL ALLOW THE REST OF THE BOARD TO WEIGH IN. I HAD A CLARIFICATION QUESTION. AND THEN I ALSO WANTED TO COMMENT ON THE PORCH DETAIL, WHICH WE HAD OBVIOUSLY DISCUSSED AT LENGTH AT OUR LAST MEETING. I THINK THE RENDERING AND THE ADDITIONAL DRAWINGS DO PROVIDE ME WITH SUFFICIENT CLARIFICATION REGARDING SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT WE HAD. I WOULD OFFER A COUPLE MINOR COMMENTS. ONE BEING I'M NOT STILL NOT SURE THAT THE USE OF HARDIPLANK ON THE RAILING, AND I'M GOING TO USE MY. I'LL TRY TO USE THE LASER POINTER. AS MY FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS KNOW, I TEND TO FAIL EPICALLY AT THIS, BUT LET ME GIVE ME A SECOND HERE. YEAH. CAT TOY. EXACTLY. ALL RIGHT. HOLD ON. I'M GOING TO GET IT. THERE WE GO. OKAY. SO I KNOW IT'S A LITTLE SMALL TO SEE, BUT EVERYONE CAN SEE IT IN THEIR PACKET. IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE PROPOSING CLADDING. THE WHAT? I'LL CALL THE RAILING OR BALUSTRADE WITH HORIZONTAL CLAPBOARD. I WOULD SUBMIT THAT THAT MIGHT BE BETTER SUITED TO BE HARDY PANEL INSTEAD OF HARDY CLAPBOARD, AND JUST TRIMMED OUT AND FRAMED OUT ACCORDINGLY TO CREATE A SMOOTH SURFACE AND A DIFFERENTIATION FROM THE REST OF THE HOUSE. I'LL I'LL DEFER TO THE REST ON WHETHER THEY THINK THAT'S A WORTHY CHANGE, AND I'D CERTAINLY LIKE YOUR FEEDBACK ON THAT AS WELL. THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD WAS IT WASN'T ENTIRELY CLEAR AS FAR AS DEMOLITION IS CONCERNED, IS THE STUCCO BEING SMOOTHED. HOW DO YOU HOPE TO ACHIEVE THE TRIM DETAIL AROUND THE OPENINGS? THAT WOULD BE OUR INTENT. LIKE AT LEAST IF YOU'RE ASKING ME LIKE, WHAT WOULD I PROPOSE? YEAH. YEAH. ESSENTIALLY SCRAPE IT. YEP. LIKE PUT IT NEW WRAP UP. PUT NEW SIDING UP. LIKE YOU'RE BASICALLY STARTING FROM SCRATCH. OKAY. TRYING TO, LIKE, PLASTER OR, YOU KNOW, CLAD OVER THE PLASTER OR THE STUCCO THAT'S THERE. THANK YOU. THAT WOULD BE CHALLENGING. AND SIMILAR TO YOUR POINT ON THE RAILING OR, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL THE EXISTING CONDITION THAT'S BASICALLY AT THE PORCH. AGAIN, IT'S LIKE A STUCCO MATERIAL THAT'S ON THERE NOW. SO WE WERE TRYING TO GET AS MUCH STUCCO AREA WITH ESSENTIALLY THE HARDIE BOARD SIDING REPLACEMENT. SO AGAIN, LIKE AS FAR AS THE RENDERING, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS CAN ZOOM IN ON THIS IMAGE, BUT ESSENTIALLY IT'S BASICALLY THREE BOARDS, YOU KNOW, EVENLY SPACED AT THE SIX INCH INCREMENT. SO I MEAN LIKE IT KIND OF WORKED OUT SO THAT IT DOES LOOK PRETTY NICE AND BALANCED IN TERMS OF LIKE HAVING THE HARDIE BOARD THERE. MY EXPERIENCE USING THE HARDIE BOARD IS THAT IT DOES COME IN SUFFICIENT LENGTHS TO BE ABLE TO SPAN HORIZONTALLY WITHOUT A VERTICAL SEAM, AND YOU COULD SIMPLY PICTURE FRAME IT AND LET THE SMOOTH PANEL EXIST THERE. AGAIN, IT'S NOT, TO ME A CRITICAL DECISION AS FAR AS APPROVABILITY, BUT I IT WAS THE ONLY THING THAT REALLY JUMPED OUT AT ME WHEN I SAW IT. I DID WANT TO ASK ONE OTHER CLARIFYING QUESTION. IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE PROPOSING A NATURAL WINDOW COLOR. I IN THE RENDERINGS. OR IS THAT JUST WAS THAT JUST A BYPRODUCT OF THE RENDER? IT LOOKS LIKE A WOOD WINDOW. IS THAT LIKE A WOOD ISH TONE? BUT I BELIEVE IT'S CALLED OUT AS A BRONZE FINISH. OKAY. SO IT WILL NOT BE A IT WON'T BE A WOOD GRAIN FINISH. OKAY. IT'S GOING TO BE A LIGHT BRONZE. YES. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. JUST JUST A NOTE TOO. WE DID DISCUSS WITH THE CLIENT. OBVIOUSLY, THE RAILING HEIGHT IS GRANDFATHERED IN. AND WHAT'S TODAY'S CODE REQUIRES. WE DID DISCUSS DOING, LIKE, AN ALUMINUM RAILING, SIMILAR TO. I DIDN'T BRING A PHOTO, BUT ACROSS THE STREET THEY HAD. IT'S AN ALUMINUM MAINTENANCE FREE ON TOP OF THE.NO, JUST REMOVING IT. OH OKAY. IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE ICE. YEAH. OKAY. OF THE HARDY.
BUT AGAIN, ULTIMATELY WE TRIED TO KEEP AS MUCH CHARACTER AS POSSIBLE. I KNOW THE ARCHWAYS FOR EXAMPLE, YOU GUYS DISCUSSED LAST TIME. ALSO POSSIBLY REMOVING THOSE JUST BECAUSE THERE WAS LACK OF CLARITY ON HOW THAT WOULD BE TREATED. SO AGAIN, LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO TRY TO KEEP AS MUCH CHARACTER AS WE CAN ON THE FRONT PORCH, WHICH IS WHY THAT RAILING CONDITION WOULD STAY. AND WE'RE TRYING TO FRAME OUT AND TRIM OUT THE ARCHWAYS AS WELL. I DON'T FIND THE SOLID RAIL OBJECTIONABLE, BUT AGAIN, I'LL DEFER TO THE REST OF THE BOARD ON THAT. ANYWAY, THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING MY QUESTIONS. I WANT TO WEIGH IN AS WELL AS I THINK ACTUALLY, A OPEN RAILING WOULD LOOK BETTER. SO I WOULD VOTE FOR A METAL OPEN RAILING LIKE THE NEIGHBORS. I'M JUST SCROLLING THROUGH LOOKING AT NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES. IT IS A PRETTY TYPICAL CONDITION.
THERE'S NOTHING TO ME THAT SCREAMS THIS SOLID RAIL IS DOING MUCH ANYTHING FOR THE SPOT. I THINK IT'S COMPARABLE IN TERMS OF COST STANDPOINT. NOT THAT THAT MATTERS IN THIS CASE, BUT THE CLIENT'S OPEN TO DO WITH EITHER WHAT YOU ALREADY HAVE THE METAL RAILING GOING UP TO THE PROPERTY. IT MIGHT BE NICE TO TIE THAT IN AND CONTINUE IT. AND YEAH, YOU COULD KEEP THOSE LEFT
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AND TO THE RIGHT AS WELL, UPSTAIRS AS WELL AS FOR THE PROPERTY ITSELF AND ADJACENT PROPERTIES. I WOULD ASSUME YOU'D KEEP THESE TWO PIERS AND THEN. OH YEAH. OH YEAH. SO I WOULD, I WOULD VOTE FOR THAT. BUT WHAT OTHER PEOPLE THINK. I THAT WAS MY ONLY THOUGHT WAS I WOULD PREFER AN OPEN IF, IF THE CLIENT WAS SO OBJECTIONABLE TO IT. I LIKE MR. MOUNT'S TREATMENT AS WELL. BUT WHAT WHAT COLOR ALL OF THE SURROUNDING RAILING IS LIKE A BLACK. YEAH. SO I MEAN, AGAIN, IT WOULD MATCH ALL OF THE SURROUNDING ADJACENT. YEAH. YEAH. WANT TO MAKE SURE WE SPECIFY IT? YEAH. AS OPPOSED TO GREEN AND RED. NO, NO. PURPLE. YEAH. KIND OF. YEAH. IT WOULD MATCH THE RAINBOW. YEAH. I, I, I ALSO THINK IF THE CLIENT IS GOING TO IS OPEN TO THE RAILING, I THINK THE RAILING WOULD BE AN IMPROVEMENT. I TAKE IT THAT THE DOOR FACING THE WEST ON THE GARAGE IS AN EXISTING DOOR. CORRECT. THAT'S THAT'S ALL I NEED TO KNOW BECAUSE I MY INITIAL REACTION, LOOKING AT IT LAST TIME, IT'S NOT CENTERED, BUT IF IT'S ALREADY THERE, THEN WE'LL LEAVE. WE'LL LEAVE WELL ENOUGH ALONE. THANK YOU FOR CENTERING AND PROPORTION. DOING THE PROPORTION ON THE OTHER DOORS AND WINDOWS BACK THERE, BECAUSE THAT THAT HELPS ME BECAUSE THAT WAS ONE OF MY CONCERNS. SO AGAIN, I APPRECIATE YOU HAD TO LISTEN TO THAT MEETING. SO AT LEAST YOU LISTENED. AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YEAH. MY THOUGHT WOULD MY ONLY THOUGHT WOULD BE TO THE RAILING. I AGREE, I THINK AN OPEN RAILING IS MORE WELCOMING FROM THE STREET. IF YOU WERE LOOKING TO CREATE SOME PRIVACY FOR SOME REASON. I COULD SEE THE SOLID PANEL, BUT I. I THINK IT'S MORE WELCOMING TO THE STREET AND IT. CONNECTS MORE TO THE, THE SIDEWALK AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD BY HAVING AN OPEN RAILING. YEAH. I THINK THE ORIGINAL INTENT WAS TO DO TO DO LESS, TO PRESERVE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. BUT AT THIS POINT, WE ARE IT'S A FULL OVERHAUL OF THE EXTERIOR. SO CLIENT'S ON BOARD. YEAH. I HAVE NO OTHER SUGGESTIONS OR RECOMMENDATIONS. I WILL ADD OR CAN I ADD ALSO THE BRACKETS AS WELL. IF YOU GUYS MISS THAT AT THE LAST MEETING THERE'S NO DISCUSSION ON THAT. BUT WE DO WANT TO KEEP THOSE BRACKETS THAT RUN OFF THE SIDE OF IT. IF YOU GO BACK TO THE RENDER QUEUE. YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE'S AGAIN ON THE EXISTING BUILDING THESE LIKE TRIANGLE BRACKETS. YEAH. OH YEAH. NO I LIKE TO THE POINT. I SEE THEM AND I SEE THEM INVOLVED. YEAH, YEAH. JUST TRYING TO MAINTAIN AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. EXACTLY THE RAMP WHICH WE'RE OPEN TO. YEAH. NO, I, I WAS HAPPY WITH THAT. YEAH. I LIKE THE BRACKETS AS WELL. I THINK IT'S A SMART KEEP. WE GET BACK TO OUR. SO IF THERE ARE NO OTHER COMMENTS. OR. I WOULD MOVE TO APPROVE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR APPLICATION A OR B 80 DASH 2024 WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITION. CONDITIONS. THE PROJECT ARCHITECT MUST CLOSELY COORDINATE WITH THE BUILDER TO ENSURE THE PORCH TRIM DETAILS ARE EXECUTED APPROPRIATELY, CONSISTENT WITH THE APPROVED PLANS, AND THAT AN OPEN RAILING BE. THE FRONT USED ON THE FRONT PORCH. SUBJECT. SUBJECT. STAFF. PROOF. THANK YOU. JOHN. I'LL SECOND. MISTER HENSON. YES. MISTER BROWN. YES. MISS MOORE. YES. MISTER MALICE. YES. MISTER STROLLER. YES.MISTER DAVEY. YES. MISTER ITEM. YES. THE MOTION PASSES WITH ALL VOTES TO APPROVE THE CERTIFICATE. SUBJECT TO THE CONDITION OF THE STAFF REPORT AND THE FOLLOWING ADDITIONAL CONDITION. THAT OPEN RAILING BE USED ON THE PORCH, SUBJECT TO STAFF APPROVAL. OKAY. PERFECT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. WE JUST WANTED TO SEE YOU. SO WE'RE GLAD YOU'RE HERE. WELL, WE TOLD THEM LAST TIME THEY SHOULD HAVE SHOWED UP. THANKS A LOT. GOOD NIGHT. TAKE CARE. THANK YOU. OUR NEXT CASE IS ARB 15, 2025 FOR CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS TO REPLACE TWO WALL SIGNS. THE REPLACEMENT OF TWO WALL SIGNS AT 245 EAST MAIN STREET. THE APPLICANT IS SOUTHWOOD CORPORATION. COULD WE HAVE STAFF REPORT? YES. THANK YOU AND GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. SO AS YOU SAID, THIS IS FOR A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS TO ALLOW TWO NEW SIGNS AT 245 EAST MAIN
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STREET FOR AVALON SENIOR LIVING. SO HERE IS THE LOCATION OF THE TWO PROPOSED SIGNS. SIGN A IS ABOVE THE ENTRANCE AT THE INTERSECTION OF MILLER AVENUE AND EAST MAIN STREET, AND SIGN B IS AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF THE BUILDING. SO BOTH SIGNS ARE REPLACING EXISTING SIGNS. FOR SIGN A WILL BE PLACED IN THE SAME LOCATION ABOVE THE MILLER AVENUE ENTRANCE, AND IT WILL USE INTERNAL LIGHTING. IN THE DRAWING THERE SHOWS IT IN BOTH THE DAYTIME AND NIGHT TIME. AND FOR SIGN B WILL ALSO BE PLACED IN THE SAME LOCATION AS THE EXISTING SIGN. IT'S THE SAME DESIGN AS SIGN A, BUT SPLIT INTO TWO LINES INSTEAD OF ONE, AND WE'LL ALSO USE INTERNAL LIGHTING. SO FOR THE DIMENSIONS OF THE SIGN, THE PROPOSED WALL SIGN A, IT WILL BE 12.64FT■!S PR SIDE. IT HAS WHITE LETTERING, TRIM, CAB RETURNS, AND ACRYLIC FACES. IT WILL BE MOUNTED VIA RACEWAY THAT WILL BE PAINTED TO MATCH THE COLOR OF THE BRICK. AND FOR PROPOSED WALL SIGN B, IT IS 26FT■!S PER SIDE. WITH THE SE DESIGN AS SIGN A ALSO MOUNTED B, A RACEWAY THAT WILL BE PAINTED TO MATCH THE BRICK COLOR. AND IN SUMMARY, THE PROPOSED SIGNS REPLACE EXISTING ONES AND FIT WITHIN THE REQUIRED SQUARE FOOTAGE. THE PROPOSED SIGNS APPEAR TO BE APPROPRIATE AND ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE ARCHITECTURAL CHARACTER OF THE BUILDING AND THE OVERALL VILLAGE CENTER, AND THE PROPOSED SIGNS USE LIGHT LETTERING TO MATCH THE ESTHETICS OF SIMILAR SIGNS IN THE VILLAGE CENTER AND MEET ALL CODE REQUIREMENTS. I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS. SO LAST TIME AROUND WE HAD A BUNCH OF WAIVERS. NONE OF THOSE ARE RELEVANT ANYMORE BECAUSE THESE SIGNS ARE DIFFERENT. YES. SO THE WAIVERS FOR THE CURRENT SIGNS WERE TO ALLOW FOR THEY'RE NOT RELEVANT. THEY'RE NOT OH YEAH. THEY'RE NOT RELEVANT HERE. YEAH. SO THIS THESE SIGNS MEET THE CODE. THEY DO. OKAY. AND SO THE QUESTION FOR STAFF IS ONCE WE APPROVE THESE SIGNS IS COULD THE COULD SOMEONE PUT UP A SIGN LIKE THE ONE THAT THAT IS THERE NOW WITHOUT COMING BACK TO US. IF IT IS A LIKE FOR RIGHT LIKE FOR LIKE REPLACEMENT TO MY UNDERSTANDING. SO THEY COULD PUT, THEY COULD PUT BACK UP THE SIGNS THAT ARE THERE UNLESS WE TAKE ACTION. IS THAT CORRECT? YES. OKAY. YES. OKAY. JUST I DON'T KNOW THAT I CARE, BUT I JUST WANTED TO KNOW WHAT THE STAFF'S HOW STAFF INTERPRETED THE WAY THAT THE. I VIEW THIS AND WE'LL LET YOU SPEAK IN A MINUTE. I VIEW THIS AS A GREAT IMPROVEMENT, BUT. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE CLARIFICATION. MISTER HENSON, THANK YOU. OUR APPLICANT, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND INTRODUCING YOURSELF FOR THE RECORD. YEAH. MY NAME IS REBECCA GREEN AND I AM HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT TODAY. THIS IS JUST PART OF A LITTLE BIT OF REBRANDING. REFRESHING THE SIGNS. OBVIOUSLY, THEY'RE A LITTLE LESS INTRUSIVE BECAUSE THEY'RE CHANNEL LETTER BASED AS OPPOSED TO A CABINET OR A BACKER. SO THEY THEY WERE INTENDED TO FIT WHERE THESE CURRENT SIGNS ARE. AND IN BETWEEN THE TWO WINDOWS CENTERED ABOVE THE ENTRANCES REFLECT THE NEW LOGO THAT WE HAVE. AND THEN BE INTERNALLY ILLUMINATED ACCORDING TO YOUR STANDARDS HERE IN IN NEW ALBANY. THERE'S JUST SORT OF A BRAND REFRESH, BUT I'M HAPPY TO TAKE QUESTIONS ABOUT THEM. I LIKE THEM A LOT. MY ONLY QUESTION IS, I GUESS I'M STRUGGLING A LITTLE BIT WITH THE ALL LINEAR ON ONE SIDE, AND THEN THE OTHER SIDE IS THE STACKED LOGO. IS THERE A REASON WHY YOU DIDN'T? I ACTUALLY DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER FOR THAT REASON. MY UNDERSTANDING IS IT JUST ESTHETICALLY WORKED OUT THAT WAY AND STILL MET YOUR CODE, BUT I DON'T HAVE ANY SPECIFICS. COULD WE GO BACK TO THE PLAN WHERE IT SHOWS WHERE THE TWO SIGNS ARE? IF YOU DON'T MIND. THANK YOU.OKAY. SO THE. SO ONE'S ON THE ONES ON MAIN STREET AND THEN THE OTHER IS ON MILLER. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. SO YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SEE THEM AT THE SAME TIME. DOES THAT DOES THAT BOTHER ANYONE THAT THEY'RE LAID OUT DIFFERENTLY? I'M NOT REALLY BOTHERED BY IT MYSELF SINCE SINCE THEY'RE YOU CAN'T SEE THEM AT THE SAME TIME. YEAH. IT DOESN'T I'M OKAY WITH IT ALSO. YEAH, I AM TOO. SO I MEAN, I THINK THEY'RE A GREAT IMPROVEMENT OF WHAT WE HAVE NOW.
YEAH. TO FOLLOW UP ON MR. AITKEN'S COMMENT IS THERE CAN WE MAKE A CONDITION TO RESCIND THE
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PREVIOUS, YOU KNOW, SO THAT HAS TO BE DONE THROUGH. YEAH. WAIVERS RUN WITH THE PROPERTY JUST LIKE VARIANCES DO. OKAY. SO THEY STAY FOREVER. WELL AND THE I GUESS ANY NEW SIGN THAT WE'RE TO WANT TO BE THAT LARGE OR THAT TALL, WHICH WERE THE TWO WAIVERS THAT WERE APPROVED THAT WOULD STILL HAVE TO COME BACK TO THIS BOARD. OH. SO IT STILL HAS TO COME BACK. YEAH. THERE'S A WAIVER. THEY COULDN'T GO BACK AND PUT THE SAME. OKAY. ONCE THEY'RE GONE, THEY HAVE TO COME BACK. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT. YEAH. SO THIS IS NOT A. SO WHEN THEY IF THEY WERE TO PUT IT BACK, IT'S NOT CONSIDERED A REFACING SINCE THEY'RE TAKEN DOWN. AND YES, ASSUMING IT'S KIND OF DRESS REHEARSING HYPOTHETICAL BUT YEAH, THESE THE SIGNS COME DOWN, THESE ONES GO UP. THEN THEY HAVE TO COME BACK. CORRECT. THAT'S EVEN BETTER. YES. YEAH. YEAH.OKAY, GREAT. CAN I ASK ANOTHER QUESTION? SO THERE'S A NOTE HERE THAT SAYS THE LETTER SIZE AND THICKNESS MAY BE TOO SMALL FOR ILLUMINATED CHANNEL LETTERS AS SHOWN. WOULD YOU NOT ILLUMINATE IT OR WOULD YOU INCREASE THE STROKE OR. THE INTENTION IS TO HAVE THESE ILLUMINATED. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THEY WILL BE ILLUMINATED EXTERNALLY OR INTERNALLY? INTERNALLY. AND THEN HOW WOULD YOU DO THAT IF THE IF THE STROKE IS TO, TOO NARROW? MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT NOTE WAS PUT ON IS LIKE A SAFETY MEASURE FOR THE MANUFACTURER, BUT IT'S INTENDED THAT THEY BE INTERNALLY ILLUMINATED. OKAY. IT NOTES THAT THAT IT HAS A ONE INCH WIDTH ON THE ON THE THINNEST LETTERING.
SO THIS IS LIKE HALF THE SIZE. SO THE LARGEST LETTERS 18 AND THIS IS SEVEN AND THREE QUARTERS. SO I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY WOULD ACHIEVE IT ON THIS ONE. WELL IT'S A THREE QUARTER INCH RIGHT THERE FOR THE WIDTH. YEAH. SO I GUESS WE WOULD WE SHOULD I THINK WE SHOULD READ THIS TO UNDERSTAND THAT IF THE SIGNS ARE INTERNALLY ILLUMINATED, THAT THAT'S ACHIEVABLE. I'M GUESSING THAT THAT BRIGHT YELLOW NOTE IS A DISCLAIMER OF CYA, IF YOU WILL.
I SEE YOUR POINT. YEAH, BUT YEAH, AS LONG AS EVERYTHING IS CONSISTENTLY ILLUMINATED, THEN I THINK THAT. DOES THAT ADDRESS YOUR CONCERN? YEAH. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR THOUGHTS FROM THE BOARD? NOT FOR ME. I'D LIKE TO MOVE TO APPROVE FOR CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR APPLICATION A OR B 15 2025. ON THE CONDITION THAT THE LETTERS ARE SUFFICIENTLY LARGE ENOUGH TO BE INTERNALLY ILLUMINATED. NOW ALSO. MISTER HINSON. YES, MISTER MALLET. YES, MISS MOORE? YES. MISTER DAVIES. YES. MISTER BROWN. YES. MISTER STROLLER.
YES. MISTER ITEM. YES. THE MOTION PASSES WITH ALL VOTES TO APPROVE THE CERTIFICATE, SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS. THAT THE LETTERS ARE LARGE ENOUGH TO BE INTERNALLY ILLUMINATED. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER BUSINESS
[VII. Other business]
FOR THE BOARD? ANYTHING COMING DOWN THE PIKE? FUN. FUN? YEAH. WE ARE GOING TO BRING. THAT WASN'T FOR GEORGE. WE ARE GOING TO BRING WHAT? YOU GUYS HAVE PROBABLY ALL SEEN SOME OF THE FRUITS OF YOUR LABOR OUT IN THE WILD. THE HAMLET, THE HAMLET PROJECT. LOTS OF TREES FALL IN THE MONTH OF MARCH TO MEET INDIANA BACK REQUIREMENTS. SO THAT PROJECT IS STARTED. YEAH.EVERY TREE THAT FALLS MAKES ME MORE PROUD. YOU KNOW, YOU SAID IT. NOT. YES. YES. GET A LOT.
SOUNDS LIKE A BOOK TITLE. AND THEN THE PROJECT ALSO STARTED AS WELL. YEAH, THE STREETS CAME DOWN. THAT BUILDING WILL COME DOWN WITHIN THE NEXT 30 DAYS. AND THEN WE WILL NEXT MONTH WILL BRING PROBABLY BE BRINGING THE US 62 INTERCHANGE FOCUS AREA PLAN TO YOU GUYS. TRACY SITS ON THAT STEERING COMMITTEE. THIS IS KIND OF AN UPDATE FOR TRACY AS WELL, BUT WE THINK WE'RE KIND OF AT A POINT WHERE THAT THAT AREA IS LOOKING MORE LIKE A FORM BASED CODE TYPE OF APPROACH. TO HELP GUIDE THE REST OF THE DEVELOPMENT. SO LIKE THE HAMLET, WE THINK THAT THAT'S WOULD MOST LIKELY BE APPROPRIATE FOR YOU GUYS TO REVIEW. SO THAT'LL BE NEXT MONTH. GREAT. IS THAT US THE US 62 FOCUS AREA. IT'S REALLY GENERALLY KIND OF EVERYTHING BEHIND LIKE SHEETZ, THE SHEETZ GAS STATION AND THEN GOING ALL THE WAY UP TO LIKE THE BOB EVANS BUILDING, ALL THAT
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UNDEVELOPED LAND. SO THIS PLAN WOULD HELP GUIDE LAND USE IN THAT AREA. AN UPDATE TO OUR STRATEGIC PLAN. SO AND NOTHING FURTHER FROM THE HAMLET ON WHETHER THEY'RE GOING TO DO THE HOTEL OR NOT. THAT IS THAT IS NO LONGER HAPPENING. OKAY. NO HOTEL. WE'RE BACK TO WHAT WE APPROVED. BACK TO WHAT? WE. OKAY. YES. OKAY. OKAY. BUT WE HAVEN'T HEARD FROM THE SCHOOL OR. WHAT WAS THAT? I HAVEN'T HEARD FROM THE SCHOOL. YES, THEY THE BUS GARAGE ON 605 IS NOT HAPPENING ANYMORE. SO THEY'RE LOOKING FOR ALTERNATE SITES CURRENTLY, AND THEN WE MEET WITH THEM EVERY TWO WEEKS. SO THERE'S STILL SOME STUFF HAPPENING IN THE BACKGROUND. THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL BUILDING IS CURRENTLY BEING REVIEWED BY RAMZA, SO WE EXPECT THAT TO BE IN FRONT OF YOU GUYS WITHIN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS. BUT THE FIRE STATION IS STILL MOVING FORWARD AT THAT SITE. CURRENTLY, YES. WHAT'S THE BETTER WAY OUT? CURRENTLY, YES. OKAY, GREAT. ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM OUR MEMBERS? PLEASURE TO SEE EVERYBODY. YES, I SAY THAT EVERY MEETING. BUT IT IS. I AGREE. I'LL SECOND THAT. MOTION. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN. I'LL SECOND. MR. HINTON. YES, MR. ITEM? YES, MR. BROWN. YES. MR. YES, MISS. MOORE. YES. MR. MALITZ. YES. MR. DAVEY. YES.* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.