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I'LL TRY AGAIN. IS STAFF READY? YES. OKAY. I'D LIKE TO GO OVER TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING FOR MONDAY, APRIL 21ST, 2025. CAN I HEAR THE ROLL, PLEASE, MR. KIRBY? PRESENT, MR. WALLACE. MR. SHELL. PRESENT. MISS BRIGGS HERE. MISS. MR. LARSON. PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER.

WILTROUT. THERE ARE FOUR VOTING MEMBERS PRESENT. WE HAVE A QUORUM. THANK YOU. ITEM THREE.

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THAT WAS THE ONLY CORRECTION THAT I HAD. ARE THERE OTHERS? NO, NOTHING FOR ME. DO YOU HAVE A MOTION ON THE MINUTES? I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM THE APRIL 7TH PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING. AS CORRECTED. AS CORRECTED. DO I HEAR A SECOND? SECOND. A DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION. OKAY. THE ROLL PLEASE. MR. SHELL. YES. MISS BRIGGS. YES. MR. KIRBY.

YES. MR. LARSON. ABSTAIN. SINCE I WASN'T PRESENT. THE MOTION PASSES. THERE ARE THREE VOTES TO

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TONIGHT WE WOULD LIKE TO TABLE THIS. AND I CAN HAVE BEN TALK ABOUT IT. THANKS, BEN. OKAY.

YEAH. SO THERE'S SINCE THE LAST MEETING OR THE LAST TIME THIS WAS DISCUSSED. THERE'S BEEN SOME BACK AND FORTH WITH AEP ABOUT THE PROCESS AND SOME OF THE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT WE'VE REQUESTED. SO WE'RE GATHERING THAT INFORMATION AS WE SPEAK AND ANTICIPATE TO HAVE IT AT THE MAY 5TH MEETING IS AT THE MEETING. WE EXPECT TO HAVE IT. YES, IT'LL BE AT THE MAY 5TH MEETING. AND IN THE MEANTIME, IN YOUR STAFF REPORT, WE'RE GOING TO UPDATE THE STAFF REPORT. AND I WILL PUT SOME INFORMATION IN THERE ABOUT WHAT IT IS THAT YOU CAN CONSIDER, CAN CONSIDER, AND WHAT AEP NEEDS TO SHOW. SO THAT WE KNOW WHAT OUR RIGHTS, OBLIGATIONS AND RESPONSIBILITIES ARE. SO I'LL TRY TO MAKE IT EASIER ON YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND MAY 5TH IS ENOUGH TIME.

YEAH. WE'VE TALKED WITH AEP. THEY'RE OKAY WITH MAY 5TH. AND LIKE I SAID WE'VE HAD SOME WE'VE HAD SOME DISCUSSION AND WE'VE HAD SOME BACK AND FORTH. SO THEY SHOULD BE GOOD TO GO ON MAY 5TH.

AND STAFF WILL HAVE PLENTY OF TIME TO GET THE INFORMATION YOU TO CONSIDER BEFORE THE BEFORE THE MEETING. AND NOTIFICATION PROCESS IS TEN DAYS. YES. AND I BELIEVE YEAH, THAT'S GOING OUT.

OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE FROM STAFF ON THAT. WE'RE GOING TO TABLE IT. I DON'T THINK WE NEED A MOTION FOR THE DOCUMENTS YET. DO I HEAR A MOTION TO TABLE? I MOVE TO TABLE A FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN. OH FIVE 2025 UNTIL OUR MAY 5TH MEETING. DO I HEAR A SECOND? SECOND. AND DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION TO TABLE. COULD YOU THE ROLL, PLEASE? MR. KIRBY? YES. MISS BRIGGS. YES. MR. LARSON? YES. MR. SHELL. YES. THE MOTION PASSES WITH FOUR VOTES TO TABLE THE APPLICATION UNTIL MAY. UNTIL THE MAY 5TH MEETING. THANK YOU. THAT TAKES US TO THE FINAL VOTE. MODIFICATION 19 SPEEDWAY. CAN WE HEAR FROM STAFF, PLEASE? YES. THANK YOU. ALRIGHTY. THIS IS A MODIFICATION TO THE APPROVED FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT YOU APPROVED ON MARCH 3RD. THIS IS TO ALLOW FIVE ADDITIONAL PARKING

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MODIFICATION 19 2025. DO I HEAR A SECOND ON THE DOCUMENTS MOTION? SECOND. AND DISCUSSION OF THE DOCUMENTS. MOTION TO THE ROLL, PLEASE, MR. KIRBY. YES, MR. SHELL? YES, MISS BRIGGS? YES, MR. LAWSON? YES. MOTION PASSES WITH ALL VOTES TO ADMIT THE DOCUMENTS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. DO I HEAR A MOTION ON THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT MODIFICATION ITSELF? NOVO MODIFICATION 19 2025. AS COOKBOOKS. OKAY. SUBJECT TO CONDITION IN THE STAFF REPORT.

DO I HEAR A SECOND? SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION FOR THE DEVELOPMENT MODIFICATION ITSELF? GO TO THE ROLL, PLEASE, MR. LARSON? YES. MISS BRIGGS. YES. MR. KIRBY. YES. MR. SHELL. YES.

MOTION PASSES WITH ALL VOTES TO APPROVE THE MODIFICATION. TAKES US TO THE MODIFICATION. 21 COURTYARDS AT HEINZ CREEK. CAN WE HEAR FROM STAFF, PLEASE? YES. GOOD EVENING, BOARD MEMBERS.

THIS IS APPLICATION FOR A MODIFICATION TO THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED CLUBHOUSE FOR THE COURTYARD AT HEINZ CREEK SUBDIVISION. SO HERE'S THE SITE HIGHLIGHTED IN THE RED DASHED LINE. AND HERE'S THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN. THE PLAN HAS MINOR CHANGES TO THE LANDSCAPE ON SITE. HOWEVER, STAFF IS NOT CONCERNED WITH THESE BECAUSE THEY ARE PRIVATE. PRIVATE LANDSCAPING CHANGES. AS NOTED IN THE STAFF REPORT, THE CONDITIONS AND THE CONDITIONS SORRY STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE APPLICANT PROVIDE A PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION AT THE EASTERNMOST PART OF THE SITE THAT CONNECTS TO THE COMMUNITY GARDEN, TO THE LEISURE PATH, AS IT'S AS IT WAS SHOWN IN THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED PLAN. AND THAT LOCATION IS RIGHT UP HERE. SO HERE ARE THE CLUBHOUSE ELEVATIONS. THE LEFT IMAGES ARE OF THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED DESIGN, AND THE RIGHT IMAGES ARE FOR THE PROPOSED DESIGN. SO AS YOU CAN SEE THERE'S SOME ADDITIONAL WINDOWS BEING PROPOSED AT THE ELEVATIONS AS WELL AS A CHANGE IN MATERIALS. IN HERE. THE ELEVATIONS FOR THE LEFT AND THE REAR SIDES OF THE CLUBHOUSE, AGAIN, THE LEFT ARE THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED AND THE RIGHT ARE THE PROPOSED. THE CITY ARCHITECT HAS REVIEWED AND APPROVED THE PROPOSED DESIGN AND MATERIAL USE OF THE PROPOSED CLUBHOUSE. SO HERE'S THE SUMMARY OF THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN MODIFICATION. SO THE CLUBHOUSE PROVIDES RECOMMENDED AMENITY SPACE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY, MAINTAINING THE DESIRED QUALITY OF LIFE IN THE CITY. THE ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES AND DETAILS DEMONSTRATE COHESIVENESS WITH THE SURROUNDING AND WITH THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY. THE PROPOSED SITE LAYOUT PROVIDES ADEQUATE CONNECTIVITY FOR THE COMMUNITY WITH THE PROPOSED

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THE EPCON IS ALWAYS MAKING CHANGES. WE. YOU'VE ALREADY APPROVED THE FARMHOUSE ELEVATIONS FOR THE HOMES IN THE COMMUNITY. BUT THE CLUBHOUSE WASN'T QUITE DONE. THE ARCHITECTURE CHANGES WHEN WE SUBMITTED BEFORE. SO NOW IT'S DONE. AND AS JAY MENTIONED, IT'S BEEN THIS HAS BEEN APPROVED BY THE CITY ARCHITECT. THIS VERSION IS THE SAME HEIGHT AS THE PREVIOUS VERSION. IT COVERS THE SAME FOOTPRINT AS THE PREVIOUS VERSION. WE DID ADD A SMALL VESTIBULE AT THE FRONT ENTRY TO ALLOW PEOPLE ACCESS TO THE FRONT PORCHES FROM INSIDE THE CLUBHOUSE. ANY CONFLICT WITH THE CONDITIONS IN THE STAFF REPORT? NO. OKAY. ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION? FROM EMAIL. I MOVE TO ACCEPT THE STAFF REPORTS AND RELATED DOCUMENTS INTO THE RECORD FOR FINAL DEVELOPMENT.

MODIFICATION 21 2025. DO I HEAR A SECOND? SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE DOCUMENTS? MOTION. HEAR THE ROLL, PLEASE, MR. KIRBY? YES, MISS BRIGGS? YES. I'M SORRY, MR. LARSON. YES. MISS BRIGGS. YES. MR. SHELL. YES. MR. LARSON. I'M SORRY. ALL RIGHT. MOTION PASSES WITH ALL VOTES TO ADMIT THE DOCUMENTS. THANK YOU. THROW YOUR MOTION ON THE FLOOR WITH THE MODIFICATION ITSELF.

I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE FDP 21, 2025. NOTING THE TWO CONDITIONS IN THE STAFF REPORT. I'LL SECOND THAT. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION FOR THE FINAL? FINAL DEVELOPMENT MODIFICATION? COULD WE HEAR THE ROLL, PLEASE? MR. SHELL? YES. MR. KIRBY? YES. MISS BRIGGS? YES. MR. LARSON? YES.

THE MOTION PASSES WITH ALL VOTES TO APPROVE THE MODIFICATION. SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS IN THE STAFF REPORT. TAKES US TO FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN 20 2025, CANADIAN MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDING. CAN WE HEAR FROM STAFF, PLEASE? YES. SO THIS IS FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN. WE ALSO HAVE A VARIANCE FOR THE SAME PROJECT. SO WE'RE GOING TO HEAR BOTH AT THE SAME TIME. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO THE APPLICATION IS FOR A FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR TWO PROPOSED MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDINGS LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE ROUNDABOUT OFF FOREST DRIVE, SOUTH OF JOHNSTOWN ROAD, AND NORTH OF SMITH MILL ROAD. WITH THE WITHIN THE CANADIAN TRUST CORP, THE DEVELOPMENT INCLUDES TWO MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDINGS ON A 2.08 ACRE SITE. LOT ONE IS 9170FT■!S, AND LOT TWO IS 5846FT■!S, AND THE LS WILL BE SEPARATED THROUGH A LOT SPLIT, WHICH IS WHAT THE VARIANCE WILL BE FOR. SO THESE ARE THE ELEVATIONS FOR THE LOT ONE BUILDING. AND THESE ARE THE ELEVATION FOR THE LOT TWO BUILDING. AND ALL THE ROOFTOP EQUIPMENT WILL BE SCREENED THROUGH THE USE OF A PARAPET WALL. AND THERE WILL BE NO SIGNS ON THIS APPLICATION. BUT IT IS A CONDITION THAT THE WHEN THE SIGNS COME IN, THEY WILL BE SUBJECT TO STAFF APPROVAL. AND THEN THESE ARE THE BUILDING MATERIALS. THEY ALL MEETING CODE. AND CITY ARCHITECT HAS HAD SOME MINOR COMMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN PUT AS A CONDITION OF APPROVAL. ON THIS AS WELL. SO LOOKING AT THE LANDSCAPING PLAN GENERALLY IS MEETING ALL OF OUR LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS. THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT DID HAVE A FEW MINOR COMMENTS THAT HAVE ALSO BEEN ADDED TO THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL. SO FOR THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN, THE PROPOSAL DOES ALIGN WITH MANY GOALS OF THE ENGAGE NEW ALBANY STRATEGIC PLAN, INCLUDING PROVIDING PEDESTRIAN ACCESS ALONG ROADWAYS. ONTO THE SITE AND UTILIZING HIGH QUALITY BUILDING MATERIALS, THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS AN APPROPRIATE LOCATION GIVEN THE CONTEXT OF THE SURROUNDING AREA, AND THE PROPOSED BUILDINGS ARE WELL DESIGNED AND WILL, WITH RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL, USE AS APPROPRIATE FOR THE COMMERCIALLY ZONED AREA. SO THESE ARE THE CONDITIONS FOR THE SITE. ALL ARE IN THE PACKET, EXCEPT WE DID HAVE A MODIFICATION TO THE THIRD CONDITION. SO THE CITY AND MILL VENTURES ARE IN COMMUNICATION FOR AN AGREEMENT TO BE SET UP

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ANY ENGINEER. YES. SO ADD SIGNATURE BLOCK AND ALL ACCOMPANYING NOTES ONTO THE COVER SHEET. PLEASE SHOW ALL EXISTING EASEMENTS, WETLANDS AND BUFFERS SHOWN ON THIS EXHIBIT.

SHOW SITE DISTANCE TRIANGLES AND STOP BAR SIGNS. WE RECOMMEND THAT A LICENSED ARCHITECT STAMP AND SEAL THE LANDSCAPE PLANS. FOOT CANDLE INTENSITIES OF THE PROPERTY LINE AND UNIFORMITY RATIOS ARE HIGHER THAN WHAT TYPICALLY GET APPROVED. PROVIDE A FIRE TRUCK TURNING RADIUS ANALYSIS FOR REVIEW AND APPROVAL, AND RECORD THE ACCESS EASEMENT PROVIDED TO THE CITY WHEN AVAILABLE. I MIGHT NOTE THAT I BELIEVE THE SITE WE'RE LOOKING FOR IN THE ONE CONDITION IS, AS I SITE. THOSE ARE SITE DISTANCES, NOT MEASUREMENTS OF THE SITE. THE SITE. TOP OF PAGE.

YES. OKAY. YES. THANK YOU. QUESTIONS FROM OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONER. CAN WE HAVE AN APPLICANT? GOOD EVENING, LARRY KENNEDY. KENNEDY AND ASSOCIATES. 3841 MAN ROAD LIKE LAKE OHIO. JUST HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. SIERRA AND HER TEAM. WE MET EARLIER TODAY TO FINALIZE ONE ASPECT OF KIND OF THE CONCERN WITH ITEM NUMBER THREE. WE HAD LEARNED THROUGH THEIR REVIEW AND OUR DUE DILIGENCE IN SEARCH OF THE TITLE, THAT WHEN THE ESTATE NEW ALBANY, THE BANQUET CENTER CONFERENCE CENTER WAS DONE IN THAT ZONING, WE WERE LED TO BELIEVE AND AGAIN, NOT NOT A BIG ISSUE, BUT WE WERE LED TO BELIEVE THAT THERE WAS A CROSS ACCESS EASEMENT TO ALLOW US TO USE THE ROAD OR THE DRIVE LANE THAT FEEDS THEIR PARKING LOT. SO AS WE DID OUR RESEARCH ON THAT, TO MAKE SURE LEGALLY THAT WE HAD THE ABILITY TO USE THAT IN CURB, CUT THAT FOR OUR ACCESS. WE LEARNED THAT THERE WAS A PARKING AGREEMENT THAT WAS BASED ON THE TEXT FROM 2007, WHEN I STOOD HERE TO DO THE ENTITLEMENTS FOR THAT WHOLE PROJECT THAT WAS IN THAT TEXT THAT REQUIRED A SHARED PARKING AGREEMENT WITH, IN ESSENCE, AND I, WE DUG UP THE INFORMATION, SEARCH THE TITLE, WE SHARED IT WITH STAFF. WE LEARNED THAT THERE WAS AN AGREEMENT MADE ALONG WITH THE CROSS ACCESS AND STORMWATER MANAGEMENT CONTROL, SHARING THE POND THAT IS CURRENTLY THERE THAT WE WILL ALSO USE FOR STORMWATER. THAT THERE IS A

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THE BUILDING, DOESN'T CHANGE BUILDING SIZE, DOESN'T CHANGE PARKING RATIOS. NONE OF THAT CHANGES, BUT IT ALLOWS US TO ADHERE TO THAT AGREEMENT THAT'S IN PLACE TO FOLLOW IT BY THE LETTER, WHICH IS ACCESS, STORM AND PARKING. SO FLIPPING THE BUILDINGS SO THAT YOU HAVE TO GET THE PARKING CORRECT WITH THE NEIGHBOR TO THE SOUTH. SO YOUR BIGGER BUILDING WHICH HAS CORRECT THE PARKING NORTH AND SOUTH. AND WHEN YOU FLIP IT, IT'S GOING TO HAVE WHAT IS NOW ITS NORTH PARKING. BE ON THE SHARED SIDE RIGHT WITH YOUR NEIGHBOR TO THE SOUTH. NOW THE SMALLER BUILDING IS A BUILDING THAT WE HAVE COMMITTED TO A PRACTICE WHO ORIGINALLY AND I SHARED THIS WITH STAFF TODAY IN OUR DISCUSSIONS. THEY WERE A PRACTICE THAT WAS ACTUALLY LOOKING TO GO AT BILHEIMER SOME TIME AGO. AND THEN WHEN THE BILHEIMER AREA WAS DETERMINED TO BE PUT THE BRAKES ON AND REEVALUATE THAT WHOLE AREA, THEIR REPRESENTATIVE CALLED ME AND ASKED ME IF WE HAD A LOCATION WHERE THEY COULD GO, AND OBVIOUSLY WE PRESENTED THIS ONE, AND THEY HAVE MADE THE COMMITMENT TO US SO THAT SMALLER BUILDING IS COMMITTED. NOW THE OTHER BUILDING WILL BE MY BUILDING THAT WILL BE VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU'VE SEEN ME DO AROUND TOWN, SPECIFICALLY SMITHVILLE OFFICE PARK, WHERE PROBABLY A LOT OF YOU FOLKS GO FOR DIFFERENT MEDICAL CARE. AND IT'S BASICALLY WHERE WE WILL HAVE A BUILDING AND WE WILL FILL IT WITH MEDICAL TENANTS OR USERS AS WE BRING IT, BRING IT ONLINE. SO AND WE HAVE SOME OBVIOUSLY PARTIES ALREADY INTERESTED. SO AGAIN I APOLOGIZE FOR THIS LITTLE MIX UP, BUT IT WAS SOMETHING THAT I MISSED IN MY DUE DILIGENCE. AND I THINK STAFF AND I BOTH REALIZED THAT THAT PARKING COMMITMENT OR THAT SHARED PARKING COMMITMENT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE NEEDED TO ADHERE TO. SO AFTER EVALUATING IT AGAIN, I THINK THE PROPOSED IDEA OF JUST FLIPPING THEM WILL SOLVE AND MEET THOSE REQUIREMENTS. THE STAFF HAVE AN INITIAL OPINION ON THAT. DOES THAT WORK? YEAH, WE MET WITH WITH LARRY, AS HE MENTIONED THIS AFTERNOON WITH JEN CHRYSLER, AND WE WERE COMFORTABLE MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT PERMISSION TO WORK WITH THEM TO FLIP THE SITE TO ACCOMMODATE THOSE THINGS. SO THE TWO BUILDINGS HERE, WHICH WILL EVENTUALLY BE SPLIT INTO TWO SEPARATE LOTS, HAVE A CROSS ACCESS EASEMENT. BUT TO THE SOUTH, YOU DON'T HAVE A CROSS ACCESS EASEMENT, NOR IS ANY SUCH CUT THROUGH SHOWN ON THE PLAN. IS THAT CORRECT? THE CROSS

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OKAY. DO I HEAR A MOTION ON THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN? I WANT YOU TO HANDLE THAT NOW. PARDON ME. GO FOR IT. OKAY. I MOVE FOR APPROVAL OF FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN 20 2020. TRY THAT AGAIN. 20 OF 2025. SUBJECT TO THE EIGHT CONDITIONS IN THE STAFF REPORT AND THE NINTH CONDITION. FLIP THE BUILDING AS TO GET THE PARKING CORRECT WITH THE NEIGHBOR TO THE SOUTH, SUBJECT TO STAFF APPROVAL. THEN JUST MODIFY THE THIRD AND OH, AND WITH STAFF'S MODIFICATION TO THE THIRD. THANK YOU. AND LET ME ASK. LET THE FOR THE STAFF REPORT ONLY THE DOCUMENTS. THAT MODIFICATION NEEDS TO BE PART OF WHAT WE JUST VOTED IN TO ACCEPT, BRUCE. IS THAT OKAY WITH YOU? IF THE DOCUMENT SHOW THE STAFF MODIFICATION TO CONDITION THREE? YES. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO REVOTE THAT THEN. AND SO IF YOU'RE CLEAR AND I'M CLEAR AND DOES THAT CHANGE? OKAY. NO ONE'S VOTE CHANGES ON THAT. SO WE HAVE THE MOTION AND THE CONDITIONS ARE CLEAR. YES.

DO I HEAR A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. AND MOVED. AND SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? GO TO THE ROLL, PLEASE, MR. KIRBY. YES. MR. SHELL. YES. MISS BRIGGS? YES. MR. LARSON. YES. THE MOTION PASSES WITH ALL VOTES TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION, SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS. CONDITION NUMBER WITH THE CONDITIONS IN THE STAFF REPORT AND CONDITION NINE. FLIP THE BUILDING TO GET THE PARKING CORRECT WITH THE NEIGHBOR TO THE SOUTH. SUBJECT TO STAFF APPROVAL AND THE MODIFICATION TO THE THIRD CONDITION AND THE TYPO ON THE ENGINEERING TYPE. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. FOR THE VARIANCE I MOVE. WE ACCEPT THE STAFF REPORTS AND RELATED DOCUMENTS INTO THE RECORD FOR VARIANCE 20 FOR 2025. DO I HEAR A SECOND ON THE DOCUMENTS? SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE DOCUMENTS? GO TO THE ROLL, PLEASE, MR. KIRBY. YES, MISS BRIGGS? YES, MR. SHELL. YES, MR. LAWSON. YES. MOTION PASSES WITH ALL VOTES TO ADMIT THE DOCUMENTS. IS THERE ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE VARIANCE, OR IS IT WELL COVERED? DO I HEAR A MOTION ON THE VARIANCE ITSELF? I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE VAR DASH 20 4-2025. BASED ON THE FINDINGS IN THE STAFF REPORT, WITH THE CONDITIONS LISTED IN THE STAFF REPORT AND SUBJECT TO STAFF APPROVAL, I THINK THERE WERE THREE CONDITIONS. YES. DO I HEAR A SECOND? I'LL SECOND THAT. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION FOR THE VARIANCE? CAN THE ROLL, PLEASE, MISS BRIGGS? YES, MR. SHELL.

YES. MR. KIRBY? YES. MR. LARSON? YES. THE MOTION PASSES WITH ALL VOTES TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION, SUBJECT TO THE THREE CONDITIONS IN THE STAFF REPORT. HERE WE GO. THAT TAKES US TO FINAL PLOT 23. GANTON PARKWAY. CAN WE HEAR FROM STAFF, PLEASE? YES. SO THIS APPLICATION IS FOR THE FINAL PLOT, FOR THE DEDICATION OF PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY FOR GANTON PARKWAY WEST.

PHASE THREE BE LOCATED WEST OF BEACH ROAD, SOUTH OF WORTHINGTON, SLASH EAST DUBLIN-GRANVILLE ROAD AND EAST OF BABBITT ROAD. SO THIS MAP SHOWS THE APPROXIMATE LOCATION FOR THE PROPOSED RIGHT OF WAY. THIS IS THE PLAT FOR THE PROPOSED RIGHT OF WAY, WHICH THE SPECIFIC NUMBERS ARE A BIT HARD TO READ, BUT IT SHOWS THAT FOR GANTON PARKWAY, THERE'S 3.889 ACRES PROPOSED FOR BABBITT ROAD, 1.467 ACRES FOR A GRAND TOTAL OF 5.356 ACRES OF RIGHT OF WAY. AND THIS MAP SHOWS A LARGER SCALE PLAN SHOWING ALSO GANTON PARKWAY PHASE THREE A, AND SHOWS THAT THE ROAD TO THE SOUTH AND THE CIRCLED AREA. IS THIS PROPOSED FLAT CAP, AND WE HAVE PROVIDED THIS STREET VIEW OF BABBITT ROA. AT THE TIME OF THE REZONING. NEIGHBORS ON BABBITT ROAD REQUESTED MORE DETAILS ABOUT THE STREETSCAPE AND PERIMETER LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS ALONG BABBITT. SO WE HAVE PROVIDED THIS EXHIBIT IN YOUR PACKETS. WE ALSO MAILED ALL PROPERTY OWNERS ALONG BABBITT ROAD AND HAVE PROVIDED ADDITIONAL INFORMATION TO THOSE WHO HAVE REQUESTED IT.

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OKAY. SO AND NOTE FOR THE AUDIENCE THAT THIS PARTICULAR PICTURE NEEDS TO BE ROTATED 90 DEGREES TO GET NORTH TO GO THE RIGHT DIRECTION. SO IF THIS LOOKS CONFUSING, THAT'S THE ONE THAT WAS. THAT'S WHAT IT LOOKS. OKAY. QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC. DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS? I JUST WANTED TO ASK IF THERE WERE I DON'T KNOW IF THERE WERE, THERE AREN'T, BUT OKAY. PEOPLE INDICATED THEY MIGHT BE INTERESTED. SO THE PROCEDURE IS TO ONE AT A TIME, COME UP AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND THE MIC SO THAT WE GET YOU PROPERLY RECORDED. ASK QUESTIONS. WE'LL DO OUR BEST TO GET THEM ANSWERED IF WE'VE GOT THEM, OR WE'LL POINT YOU TO THE PEOPLE WHO WILL BE ABLE TO GET THEM FOR YOU. AND IF YOU'VE GOT COMMENTARY ABOUT APPROVAL OF THIS, THEN LET THE COMMISSION KNOW WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS ARE. SO ARE THERE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS? GOOD EVENING, RONALD FARBER, 5596 BABBITT ROAD. MY QUESTIONS JUST SURROUND THE. CAR COUNTS. IF THERE'S BEEN ANY TRAFFIC STUDIES DONE PRE AND POST PLATTING AND FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT, WE KNOW THAT THE EAST SIDE OF BABBITT IS WAS REZONED. MARCH THE 3RD, 196 ACRES TO GE. AND DURING THAT TIME THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION AROUND THE SETBACKS AND WHAT'S THE SETBACKS FOR BOTH THE CITY AND THEN THE EXISTING TOWNSHIP AREA ON BABBITT ROAD. AND THERE WAS A LETTER WENT OUT NOVEMBER 26TH ABOUT A TRAFFIC STUDY ON BABBITT ROAD. FUTURE DEVELOPMENT PLANS. SO MY MINOR AROUND CAR COUNTS, FUTURE PLANS, SETBACKS.

WHAT HAPPENS TO THE TOWNSHIP FRANKLIN COUNTY AREA WITH A ROAD WIDENING PROJECT IN LAYMAN'S TERMS THAT STAFF YES I CAN MIGHT HAVE TO REPEAT A COUPLE OF THEM. I WAS TRYING TO FOLLOW ALONG, BUT. SO THERE IS. I'LL START BACKWARDS. SO THE AS FAR AS THE ROADWAY OBLIGATIONS ARE, THE CITY ALREADY HAS A ROAD MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT FOR THE ENTIRE SECTION OF BABBITT ROAD FROM WORTHINGTON ALL THE WAY DOWN TO MORSE ROAD. SO THE CITY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTENANCE AND IMPROVEMENTS. THE TRAFFIC COUNTS. I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY THAT HAVE BEEN DONE FOR PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT TO DATE, BUT I CAN CONFIRM THAT WITH OUR SERVICE DEPARTMENT, JOSH AND I CAN. AND FOLLOW UP WITH YOU OVER EMAIL TO LET YOU KNOW ANY OF THOSE RESULTS. BUT I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY THAT HAVE BEEN DONE RECENTLY. LEADING UP TO THE REZONING. I DON'T KNOW, JOSH, IF YOU'RE AWARE OF ANY THAT HAVE BEEN DONE. I CAN I CAN CHECK AND GET BACK TO YOU TO SEE WHAT WE HAVE, WHAT DATA WE HAVE FOR THE ROADWAY AND INTERSECTIONS. OKAY. YE, I'DAHE B CURUS. IIO KW BECA AS LOT O GROWTFH E OF USETHONSTRU CION INCT INCRREA.E AND TNHE IF THIWILLS SE THEEARAFFIC T FLOWR HE PRO TCTED CJENECTORON B O I KARW THISNOS PHA ISEHREE T F GANN,TO WCH ISHIN S. BUT TN WHATHE T'SHE EFCTFEN O SPEFICALLCI TO THYE SOH.UT SO LEIK OUR PROPEYRT AND MY MOTR'SHEROPERT PYS THE I LT THE TOWHIPNSN THE O EASSIDET ROAD. FROM TRE IT'HES A LLTYCI FROHERM PROPEYRTO 161. T CARYEA JUSTH,URIOUS C ABOUT THE CNTS ANOUDHEN TH TEIMING T KNOWHE SVEYINGUR. TTHA WAS,OU Y ,NE OF OHOSE T RESTS BEUL WDT'SHA THEIMING TOFHE T TURE DFUELOPMEEV OFNT BABBITT T OSSIBLYPO A THR LANEEE ROAD? AND AT WOUWH BELD THE EFFT OF ECYAN RSNEHAT H TEAV PPERTIEROS E TO TOSHE ROAORD ALREA DYRUCTURSTESN THAT O LTLE,ITOU YH. OUREA SVICEER DERTMENTPA IS ARE THEOLKS T FTHA E MANARINGAG TT THEHA BBITTAB ADRO IMPROMENTVE PROCTJE AND T HENTT PRGAECT,OJ SO WE CANET YOG CORR UP NKTH THEWIM TO G THEET T TIMECG INFINMATIONOR I DO? SEMI THEURVEYS SERE W COMPLEDET ECENTL-RFOR THY ENTIRE E STTCH OFREABBITT B ROAD. YET,G'NOS BN DONEEE WHITHEM T S FAR AS A I KNO BUT WW. EN HAVCAETEVE M SER, TAYHE DEPY REACTHOR DEPARATENT,TM HUT TO OU ANDYOIVE G Y OURE INFMOMATIONOR. SOOR THE F FURE, TTU INTENHEON OFTIANTON G AND TY SHI PLANT REAYLL IS HANGVI A L TO DOOTITH C WTONAN RKWAYPA ISROVIDI P ANGECONDA SRY THRGHOU THE BUSESSIN PKAR ACCE62 AND PVIDINGRONOTHER A SS ROATHED WAY THA SMITHT

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VEN. 7SE TO 730 IS ETH WORKO? E WORKTH HRS MONOUY THINDAHY. OY.KA AND I THAT'SK LL MY AESTIONQU YOU.KTH YOUYOU'RE. WCOME. ELANH OES D THE ITHERES NOUGH E SOUTW EXISTAYGIN IN THE H TO DENWIT. OR IS THA IT. HE PEN TNG SURDIYVE S.OT IT. G OTHEREMBERS M FR THEOMUBLIC. PNY QUE AIONSST OR COMMENTS? MR. CHAIR, I HAVE A SPEAKER CARD FROM DAVID MCLEAN. COME ON UP. ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. THERE'S NOT ENOUGH RIGHT OF WAY TO THE MIC. IT DOESN'T COUNT TO YOU. IT TO THE MIC, SO GO AHEAD. HI. DAVID MCLEAN 5496. BABBITT. I'M ONE OF THE NEWER RESIDENTS TO THE ROAD. CONSIDERING THEIR FAMILIES HAVE BEEN HERE FOR A VERY LONG TIME. THERE'S NOT ENOUGH RIGHT OF WAY TO THE SOUTH FOR QUITE A FEW HOMES, UNFORTUNATELY. MAY PROBABLY WITH YOUNG CHILDREN, MAKES IT VERY DIFFICULT TO WANT TO STAY. BUT AS FAR AS QUESTIONS I HAVE, MOST OF THOSE HAVE BEEN ANSWERED. WE REALLY REQUEST MORE THAN ANYTHING. TIMELINES. AND I KNOW EVERYTHING WAS INCREDIBLY TO BE DETERMINED AS TIMELINES ARE MADE AVAILABLE. PEOPLE NEED TO BE WELL, WELL AWARE OF THAT. YEAH, WE CAN GIVE YOU TIME.

CURRENT TIMELINES BY THE END OF THE WEEK. THEY'RE THERE. WE JUST DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO THEM RIGHT NOW. AS FAR AS THE ROAD WIDENING, THREE LANE OR POTENTIAL FOUR LANE. STILL ANY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO? IT'S STILL JUST THOUGHTS OF A THREE WAY LANE WIDENING. YEAH. FROM FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, IT'S STILL KIND OF UP IN THE AIR AS WE WAIT FOR SURVEY RESULTS. BUT THE THREE LANE WOULD KIND OF EXTEND AT MOST DOWN TO WHERE THAT CREEK CROSSING IS. AND THEN FROM FROM THERE. THAT'S KIND OF THE UNKNOWN TERRITORY FROM THAT. BUT I MY DISCUSSIONS HAVE ONLY BEEN WITHIN THREE LANE. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY NEED TO GO TO A FOUR LANE SECTION. THAT CLEARS UP A LOT, BECAUSE A LOT OF FOLKS THOUGHT THAT THE THREE LANE WOULD GO ALL THE WAY DOWN TO MORSE, AND THEN POTENTIALLY DOWN THE CLARK STATE. SO THAT IS THE CURRENT STOPPING LINE ESSENTIALLY FOR THE ROAD WIDENING AS AS OF NOW. YES, THAT'S THAT'S GOOD NEWS FOR ALL OF US. OH. SO YOU'RE SAYING THE THREE LANE WOULD GO DOWN TO THE FIRST STREET? THAT'S THAT'S THE LIMIT THAT WE'VE LOOKED AT. AND SO NOT NECESSARILY THAT'S WHERE THAT'S THAT'S NOT THE END ALL BE ALL. BUT FROM WHAT'S PLAUSIBLE RIGHT NOW WITH CONSTRUCTION. MA'AM, IF YOU IF YOU'RE GOING TO SPEAK, WE'D BETTER GET YOU, GET YOU UP TO THE MIC IF YOU WANT TO ASK SOME QUESTIONS. SO I KNOW ORIGINALLY WE SAW SOME DRAWINGS FOR TWO ROUNDABOUTS. NOW JUST ONE. JUST A SINGLE ROUNDABOUT, NOT ONE AT THE TOP ON OLD 161. THAT IS CORRECT. WHAT'S SHOWN? GOOD. I DON'T REALLY HAVE

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ELECTRIC AND TELCO. YEAH I DON'T KNOW TOO MUCH ON THOSE DETAILS THAT WE COULD FOLLOW UP WITH THE SERVICE DEPARTMENT, AS THEY'VE KIND OF HAVE FRONTED THOSE CONVERSATIONS. I'M NOT SURE IF THERE'S ANY PLAN TO HAVE THOSE BURIED OR IF THEY NEED TO BE RELOCATED. I KNOW THE PLANS ARE STILL IN THE WORKS, SO THAT DISCUSSION COULD STILL POTENTIALLY BE HAD, BUT I KNOW THERE IS AN ASSOCIATED COST WITH WHERE THOSE ARE, BUT I'M NOT SURE WHERE THAT LINES UP. ON THE PLANS THAT FOR RIGHT NOW. YEAH. AND AGAIN, AND WE'RE NOT TRYING TO JUST SAY WE DON'T HAVE THE ANSWERS LIKE THE SURVEY WORK IS THE VERY, VERY, VERY BEGINNING STAGES OF ANY OF THIS. SO IT'S WE DON'T HAVE THOSE RESULTS BACK YET, BUT WE'RE HAPPY TO GET THE INFORMATION AND SHARE IT WITH YOU AS SOON AS WE HAVE IT. WELL, GOOD. THANK YOU. YEP. ANY OTHERS COME TO MIND, PLEASE? YEAH. I'M TAMARA CANNON. I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF MY PARENTS THAT LIVE OUT ON BATTLE ROAD AT 6015 BABBITT ROAD. AND CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE LAST ONE WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE ONE BEFORE THAT? THAT ONE. SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT THE THREE LANES IS GOING TO GO CLEAR DOWN TO THE FIRST CREEK? NOT NECESSARILY. THE THREE LANES IS GOING TO EXTEND THAT FAR DOWN, BUT THAT WOULD BE THE LIMIT FROM WHAT WE'VE SEEN SO FAR IN TERMS OF RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION AND WHAT'S FEASIBLE IN TERMS OF LIKE A STORMWATER CONTROL AND GOING OVER THAT CREEK. WE HAVEN'T EVEN LOOKED BEYOND THAT, THAT CREEK PORTION YET, JUST BECAUSE IT WOULD BE AN EXTENSION, A VERY LARGE COST GOING OVER THE EXPANDING THAT BRIDGE TO FIT THAT WIDE OF A SECTION OVER THERE. SO THAT'S KIND OF BEEN LIKE THE LIMIT OF WE'RE GOING TO EXPAND ANYTHING AND HOW IT'S GOING TO LOOK. AND FROM WHERE, LIKE THE BUSINESSES ALONG THAT FRONTAGE AND WHERE LEISURE TRAIL CAN FIT IN, THAT'S KIND OF WHERE OUR SCOPE WE'VE LOOKED AT. HOW DOES THIS CONNECT FURTHER DOWN. AND THAT'S KIND OF BEEN THE END OF OUR SCOPE OF WHAT WE'VE EVEN LOOKED AT, BECAUSE I KEEP HEARING A LOT OF TALK ABOUT, OH, WE'RE GOING TO NEED 300FT AND WHAT WOULD THAT BE FOR 300FT OF, OF THE PROPERTIES OF RIGHT OF WAY. I, I'M NOT I CAN'T SPEAK ON THAT. I'M NOT SURE WHAT. OKAY. WHAT ROADS DO WE HAVE IN THE VILLAGE BESIDES THE FREEWAY THAT NEED 300FT OF RIGHT OF WAY? I DON'T OKAY, NOTHING THAT I'M AWARE OF. OTHERS. YEAH. COME ON UP TO THE MIC. JUSTIN PARKER, 5085 BABBITT ROAD. SO WE'RE A LITTLE BIT FARTHER SOUTH THAN WE'RE ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE STREET, BUT OBVIOUSLY A LOT OF NEIGHBORS ARE STARTING TO GET KIND OF NERVOUS AS FAR AS HOW MUCH IS BEING DONE AND HOW INDUSTRIALIZED THE EAST SIDE OF THE STREET IS LOOKING. BASICALLY, FROM MY FRONT PORCH, IF YOU LOOK OFF IN, THE NEIGHBOR DIDN'T CHOP DOWN, OR IF HE DID CHOP DOWN THE STREET, I'D BE LOOKING AT THE BACK OF COMMERCIAL CHILLERS ABOUT 200 YARDS OFF THE FRONT OF MY PROPERTY. SO THEY'RE WORRIED ABOUT ONE. THE PROPERTY VALUE INCREASES DUE TO THE PROPERTY VALUES OVERALL GOING UP, BUT THEN THE DETRACTION OF OUR OWN PROPERTY VALUES GOING DOWN BECAUSE OF ALL OF THE EVERYTHING HAPPENING, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE SOUTH OF WHAT'S GOING ON. AND THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS EVENING'S ABOUT. BUT JUST SAME THING KIND OF CONCERNED TIMELINES. WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IF THERE ARE STREET IMPROVEMENTS? ARE THEY GOING TO BE BRINGING WATER AND SEWER AND GAS HOOK UP DOWN THE STREET? ARE WE GOING TO BE MANDATED? IS IT GOING TO BE MANDATORY TO HOOK UP TO THOSE? AND IS THAT GOING TO BE COST OF THE RESIDING IN THE TOWNSHIP? ARE YOU IN THE VILLAGE? IF YOU'RE IN THE TOWNSHIP, THEN YOU'RE NOT IN THE SEWER AND WATER AGREEMENT. AND YOU CAN'T BE ASKED TO HOOK UP TO SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE NOT A PARTY TO.

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CORRECT. YEAH. AS AS THEY'RE STILL RESIDENTS THERE, IT WOULD THEY WOULD STILL REMAIN ACCESS.

WE'RE LOOKING AT FROM A SAFETY STANDPOINT. WHAT'S THE BEST POINT TO GIVE THEM ACCESS THAT STILL GIVES THEM THE ABILITY TO GO NORTH OR SOUTH. SO I THINK THAT PART OF THE PLAN IS STILL BEING WORKED ON. BUT WE WOULD STILL REQUIRE TO HAVE ACCESS FOR ALL THOSE HOUSES AS THEY'RE STILL OCCUPIED. AND WOULD THERE BE A POINT PERSON THAT WE SHOULD MEET WITH TO KIND OF, LIKE I SAID, KIND OF HELPING OUT SOME OF THOSE RESIDENTS TOO. THAT WOULD BE A GOOD LIAISON TO GET THEIR INFORMATION TO BE UPDATED ON THINGS THAT THEY HAVE. YEAH. WE CAN GET ALL OF YOUR WE'RE GOING TO GET SOMETHING TOGETHER TO GET EVERYONE'S CONTACT INFORMATION, AND WE CAN GET YOU COORDINATED WITH THE SERVICE DEPARTMENT. STEVE MAYER IS THE DEPUTY DIRECTOR WOULD BE THE BEST. HE'S THE PERSON IN CHARGE OF ALL THESE ROADWAY PROJECTS. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU. OTHERS. HI. MY NAME IS KIM DAWN. I LIVE AT 5481 BABBITT ROAD. I JUST HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS AND I MIGHT REPEAT MYSELF. WAS PRETTY HARD LISTENING TO THAT. MY FIRST QUESTION IS WE OWN A WEDDING VENUE ON BABBITT ROAD, SO IT WAS A BUSINESS. SO DURING THIS TIME OF CONSTRUCTION, I KNOW WHEN THEY DID THE LAST ROUNDABOUT ON THE SOUTH END, THEY SHUT THE ROAD DOWN. SO IT WAS MY RESPONSIBILITY TO CONTACT TO GET SIGNS UP FOR THE BUSINESS TO SEE, FOR REROUTING AND CALLING GOOGLE AND ALL THAT. SO WILL WE BE NOTIFIED AND OR WILL THEY BE SHUTTING THAT ROAD DOWN AGAIN? BECAUSE I'M SURE IT'S GOING TO BE WORKING DURING WEDDING SEASON, WHICH IS MAY THROUGH OCTOBER. SO MOST LIKELY WE DEFINITELY WILL NOTIFY EVERYONE ON BABBITT ROAD WHEN THE ROAD PLANS ARE FINALIZED AND KEEP YOU GUYS ALL AWARE OF THE LATEST AND GREATEST INFORMATION. AND I KNOW A LOT OF THIS CONSTRUCTION WILL BE ON THE NORTH SIDE, BUT BECAUSE OF THE NEW ONE, 61 PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING OBVIOUSLY FROM THE NORTH WOULD BE COMING OFF OF 161 VERSUS COMING LIKE FROM PATASKALA OR PLACES LIKE THAT. THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE FOR YOU IS WITH THIS NEW GANTON PARKWAY, IS, IS THAT GOING TO BRING IN MASSIVE TRAFFIC THAT'S BEING PULLED OFF A BEACH ROAD? AND IS IT GOING TO BE LIKE WITH ALL THIS DATA CENTERS THAT ARE GOING UP AND THINGS, IS THAT GOING TO BE MAIN TRUCK TRAFFIC THAT WILL BE FLOWING DOWN TO TWO LANE FROM THREE LANES TO TWO LANES IF THEY WANT TO GO SOUTH ON BABBITT? OR IS IT STRICTLY WITH THAT ROUNDABOUT TO PUSH THEM BACK ON OLD 161? YES. IT'S MOSTLY THE SECOND THING. WE'RE PROVIDING A SIMILAR THAT WILL BE BUILT TO FUNCTION LIKE SMITHS MILL ROAD IS ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE HIGHWAY. SORRY I KEEP FINDING YOU. HERE. THIS IS SMITH MILL. SO THIS ROAD THERE ARE

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I DON'T THINK I HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OTHERS. COME ON BACK TO THE MIC.

TO THE MIC. HELLO? NO. SO. MICHELLE. DAWN. FIVE FOUR, SIX TWO BATTLE ROAD. SORRY. WOULD YOU REPEAT YOUR NAME, PLEASE? MICHELLE DORAN. THANK YOU. YEAH. SO THIS IS LIKE, WHAT'S GOING TO BE IN FRONT OF GOOGLE? IS THAT CORRECT? ARE THEY DOING A BUT ARE THEY DOING THE PATH AS WELL IN FRONT OF GOOGLE. YES. IT SHOULD BE PRIVATE. YEP. THEY WILL. IT'S JUST COMING IN AT A LATER DATE. YES. WHEN IT GETS TO MY PROPERTY. DOES IT JUST DIE? CORRECT. CORRECT. I GUESS WE'LL TURN AROUND AND GO BACK THE OTHER WAY. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST. IF YOU'VE GOT IN THE MIDDLE OF ALL THIS AND I'M. I'M TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO WITH MY. SO IF YOU'VE GOT MY HOUSE, IS IT RIGHT ON THE STREET? SORRY. IF YOU'VE GOT THE NORTHERNMOST TOWNSHIP PROPERTY, THE PATH WOULD END AT THE VILLAGE LINE. BECAUSE THE VILLAGE NOT PRESUMING. WELL, ACTUALLY, LET ME ASK THAT TO STAFF IF THERE WAS SUFFICIENT RIGHT OF WAY, SINCE WE HAVE MAINTENANCE ON BABBITT, WOULD THE PATH KEEP GOING ALL THE WAY SOUTH? IT COULD. IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S BEING STUDIED WITH THE SURVEY AND I MEAN WITH WITH THE GOOGLE SITE SPECIFICALLY. AND YOU ALL KNOW THIS, BUT YOUR PROPERTY LINES GO TO THE CENTER LINE OF THE ROAD, AND THERE'S USUALLY OLD HIGHWAY EASEMENTS THAT RUN ALONG IT. SO THE WITH GOOGLE THEY WERE REQUIRED TO GIVE US RIGHT OF WAY SO THAT ALL OF THOSE IMPROVEMENTS CAN FIT INSIDE THE RIGHT OF WAY, WHICH IS WHY WE CAN DO THEM. WHEN IT GETS INTO THOSE OLDER LOTS, WE DON'T HAVE SUFFICIENT RIGHT OF WAY. WE CAN'T INSTALL THOSE IMPROVEMENTS. SO THANKS. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. GREAT. DUE TO THE ADDED CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC, THAT'S PROBABLY GOING TO HAPPEN GOING NORTH ON BABBITT TO GET ACCESS TO 161 OR GO TO 62. ARE THEY PLANNING ON PUTTING A TRAFFIC LIGHT THERE? BECAUSE I COULD JUST SEE THAT BACKING UP. YOU'RE REFERRING TO THE TWO WITH CURRENTLY WHERE BABBITT MEETS DUBLIN-GRANVILLE 161. SO WITH ALL OF THAT TRAFFIC NOT COMING IN AND OUT OF THERE AND TRUCKS

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CINDY COLEMAN, AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND. ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE ROAD. IN THE CIRCLED AREA, I'M ACTUALLY IN THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY. AND I'M WONDERING WHAT THE ZONING IS CURRENTLY AS RESIDENTIAL. WHAT IS THE PLAN? WHAT'S YOUR ADDRESS AGAIN? WHAT WAS THAT? ONE MORE TIME, 61, 45.

ONE SECOND HERE. HAS THERE BEEN A REQUEST TO MAKE IT NON COMMERCIAL OR NON RESIDENTIAL? NO. YOU WOULD HAVE TO. YOU AS THE PROPERTY OWNER WOULD HAVE TO MAKE A REQUEST TO MAKE IT NOT TO REZONE IT. AND THE CURRENT ZONING IS. LET'S SEE HERE. I MEAN WHAT MY EXPERIENCE HAS BEEN IS THAT I SEE A SIGN THAT SAYS THIS IS BEING REZONED. AND SO I'M JUST CURIOUS IF THERE'S BEEN ANY REQUEST TO REZONE THAT AREA. SO YOUR PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED AGRICULTURAL AND THERE ARE NO PENDING ZONING REQUESTS FOR THAT LAND. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THEN THE STRATEGIC PLAN, I THINK YOU ASKED ABOUT THE FUTURE LAND USE SHOWS IT AS RESIDENTIAL. THE STRATEGIC PLAN SHOWS THE FUTURE USE AS RESIDENTIAL, WHICH IS HOW IT'S BEING USED TODAY. YOU'RE OKAY. THE STRATEGIC PLAN SHOWS THE FUTURE USE FOR THAT PROPERTY TO BE RESIDENTIAL. OKAY. YEAH. OH, I JUST HAVE TWO QUESTIONS AT THE MIC. SORRY. HOW WIDE IS THE ROAD GOING TO BE? ONCE FROM SIDE TO SIDE IN THE THREE LANE PARK.

ARE YOU TALKING FROM CURB TO CURB? YES. I CAN GET OUR TYPICAL SECTION ON THIS, YOU KNOW, OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD. THE TOTAL RIGHT OF WAY WITH, I THINK, THROUGHOUT, ARNOLD SAYS, 100FT WIDE. BUT THAT INCLUDES WHERE WE WOULD PUT LIKE STREETSCAPE TYPICALLY WOULD BE FROM CURB I THINK WOULD BE AROUND 50FT. OKAY. AND WHEN. EACH WAY. CORRECT. IT'S 100FT RIGHT OF WAY FOR GANNON PARKWAY WEST AND 80FT FOR BABBITT. THAT'S RIGHT. WET PAVEMENT, FACE TO FACE. YES.

YEP. YEAH. LET ME LET ME DOUBLE CHECK TO SEE IF I CAN GET THAT. THE TYPICAL SECTION FOR THREE WAY LINKS. IS 20 FOOT, RIGHT? IT'S A LOT. I KNOW. YEAH, EVEN AFTER THEY LOOK NOT TO EAT IT.

ONE OTHER QUESTION WHILE YOU'RE LOOKING THAT UP IS, DO WE KNOW WHEN THIS IS GOING TO START? WE CAN FOLLOW WE CAN FOLLOW UP WITH THAT TIME TIMELINE INFORMATION THIS WEEK. HI. I'M NOT SURE IF I HAVE QUESTIONS AS MUCH AS A FEW STATEMENTS. MY NAME IS EMILY DORAN AND I'M AT 5771 BABBITT. I

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WE'VE BEEN HERE BEFORE. I WAS TOLD WE WERE ALL TOLD THAT BABBITT ROAD WAS NOT GOING TO CHANGE, AND NOW I'M HEARING THAT IT'S GOING TO THREE LANES. I THOUGHT EVERYTHING WAS GETTING DUMPED OFF AT GRANT ROAD. WE ALSO HAVE A TEMPORARY DIRT ROAD THAT WE'VE GOT CONSTRUCTION COMING IN AND OUT. SO I JUST AGAIN WANT TO MAKE THE STATEMENT I WOULD HOLD YOU TO PLEASE GIVING US THE INFORMATION AS IT CHANGES. IT'S RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM ME AND I'M NOT SURE WHAT'S GOING IN. LAST TIME I WAS HERE, WE WERE DOING TWO ROUNDABOUTS. NOW IT'S CHANGED TO ONE. SO IF YOU COULD JUST KEEP US UP TO DATE, I'D APPRECIATE IT. YEAH. WE WILL. WE'RE ON THAT IN THAT CIRCLE. I APPRECIATE IT, TOO. WE MIGHT HAVE TO. WHAT WAS YOUR ADDRESS AGAIN? FIVE. SEVEN.

SEVEN ONE. I AM ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE STREET. GIVE ME JUST A SECOND. I GOT A FEELING IT'S RIGHT IN THERE, BUT I CAN GO LOOK FOR THE CREEK IF YOU'D RATHER. I THINK THAT'S FIVE 5860. THAT'S CLOSE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WELL, THEY'RE LOOKING THAT UP. ANY OTHERS? I JUST GOT ONE TO THE MIC. I MIGHT HAVE MISSED IT. WAIT, WAIT. I'M SORRY. I KNOW ON THE OLD 161.

YOU KNOW, WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT THREE LANES ROUNDABOUT. EVERYTHING'S GOING TO GO TOWARDS OLD 161 AND THEN GO WEST. IS THAT. AND THEN THIS GENTLEMAN MENTIONED ABOUT A STREETLIGHT THERE. IS OLD ONE SEAT, 161 TO THE RIGHT GOING AWAY. SO THERE WON'T BE ANY TRAFFIC. OR DO WE HAVE AN OPTION TO GO TO BEACH ROAD OFF OF OLD? YOU'LL STILL HAVE THAT? YES, THAT'LL STILL EXIST. OKAY. YEAH, YEAH. OKAY. YOU'RE WELCOME. WE STILL GOT STAFF LOOKING FOR THINGS. YEAH.

WE DO NEED TO FOLLOW UP WITH THE THREE LANE SECTION. JOSH? YEAH. OKAY, LET ME JUST DOUBLE CHECK.

THE CREEK THAT I BELIEVE IS BEING REFERENCED IS RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE PROPERTY. SO THAT'S JUST SOUTH OF YOUR PROPERTY. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND JUST FOR EVERYONE, WE J IS GOING TO FOLLOW EVERYONE OUT. IF YOU WANT TO WRITE YOUR NAMES DOWN AND YOUR EMAIL ADDRESSES DOWN, THAT WAY WE CAN GET IT TO STEVE MAYER. SO THAT WAY WE CAN STAY IN TOUCH WITH EVERYONE. WE'LL DO THAT AFTER THE CASE, AS WELL AS PROVIDE HIS CONTACT INFORMATION TO EVERYBODY HERE. YES. OKAY.

SURE. WHAT CAN YOU KIND OF SUMMARIZE THIS ALL AT AS FAR AS TIMELINES AS TO WHAT WHAT'S NEXT? YOU KNOW, YOU'VE YOU'VE SHOWN US A PICTURE OF IT. WHAT IS NEXT AS FAR AS PUTTING OUT BID, HOW LONG IT MIGHT BE BEFORE CONSTRUCTION STARTS AND WHAT CAN WE EXPECT? WHAT? HOW WILL WE BE NOTIFIED? IS IT GOING TO CHANGE AGAIN? THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S BEEN FRUSTRATING IS IT'S CHANGING EVERY THREE MONTHS. SO YEAH. AND I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE JUST DOING THINGS CHANGE. YEAH.

AND YEAH. AND TO YOUR POINT, WE WANT TO BE TRANSPARENT WITH EVERYONE AND SHARE AS MUCH AS WE HAVE. AND I KNOW THAT SOMETIMES IT CAN BE FRUSTRATING TO SEE CHANGES HAPPEN OVER TIME. BUT WE JUST WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU GUYS ALL THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE. SO IT'S BEING DONE. YOU KNOW, WE'RE WE'RE TRYING TO DO THE RIGHT THING AND SHARE THE INFORMATION WE HAVE WITH YOU GUYS. BUT I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S CAN BE FRUSTRATING WHEN THINGS CHANGE. STEVE MAYER WILL HAVE THE BEST TIMELINE SCHEDULES. THEY EXIST. I KNOW I JUST LOOKED AT THEM THE OTHER DAY. I DON'T REMEMBER THEM OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, AND I DON'T WANT TO TELL YOU THE WRONG THING, SO WE CAN PROVIDE THAT TO YOU GUYS VIA EMAIL. AND YOU GUYS WILL BE NOTIFIED VIA MAIL OF WHEN THOSE ROAD PLANS ARE FINALIZED AND WILL HOLD A MEETING WITH YOU GUYS. IT WON'T OCCUR IN THIS SETTING WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION, BUT IT WILL BE A SEPARATE MEETING THAT YOU GUYS WILL BE NOTIFIED OF. OKAY. WHILE WE'RE WAITING ON, IF YOU WOULD COME TO THE MIC, PLEASE.

AND IF YOU'D BE SO KIND AS TO GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. SO. HUNTER FIVE, FIVE, SIX SIX AND 5251. THOSE ARE TWO PROPERTIES. I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED IN WHAT'S GOING ON HERE, BECAUSE THERE IS MY RENTAL PROPERTY. SO WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE? THEY'RE

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YEAH, THE ROAD'S NOT GOING TO GET MUCH BIGGER. AND LET ME STOP. I JUST SAID A LOT OF THINGS, AND I WANT STAFF TO MAKE SURE THAT I DIDN'T OVERSTEP ANY OF THAT. I MEAN, I THINK IT'S A IT'S A GOOD GENERAL DESCRIPTION OF HOW WE'VE DONE THINGS OVER THE YEARS. I THINK THE ONE THING I AND WE SHOULD HAVE MADE THIS CLEAR AT THE BEGINNING, I THINK JUST SO EVERYONE KNOWS, THE I GUESS THE TEAL SECTION IS ALL WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY. THE REASON WHY EVERYONE GOT NOTIFIED VIA MAIL AND YOU'RE PROBABLY ALL LIKE, WHAT'S GOING ON IS BECAUSE WHEN THE PROPERTY WAS REZONED TO THE EAST ON THE EAST SIDE OF BABBITT, WE AGREED TO NOTIFY EVERY SINGLE PERSON ON BABBITT ROAD WHENEVER A PLAT WAS PROVIDED. JUST SO YOU GUYS HAVE ANOTHER MECHANISM FOR STAYING AWARE. BUT ALL WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW IS JUST THAT TEAL SECTION. OKAY. YEAH. SO I KNOW IT IS A LITTLE CONFUSING AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. YEAH. 5566 IN THE FUTURE. CAN CAN I JUST SOME KIND OF COMMERCIAL PROPERTY IN THE FUTURE? IT COULD. IT'S IN THE STRATEGIC PLAN AS AS FUTURE LAND USE OF COMMERCIAL. FIVE. FIVE. SIX. SIX. YEP. IN THE FUTURE, YOU'RE SAYING 3 TO 5 YEARS OR HOW SOON? IT'S REALLY DRIVEN BY YOU AS THE PROPERTY OWNER AND DEVELOPERS THAT WOULD HAVE AN INTEREST IN BUYING THE PROPERTY? OKAY, SO LAST QUESTION FIVE, FIVE, SIX, SIX IN THE FUTURE CAN TURN INTO COMMERCIAL. HOW ABOUT 5 TO 5 ONE DAY POSSIBLE. TWO ON THE OTHER SIDE. ON THE OTHER SIDE ON NUMBER. IT'S ON THE WEST. IF IT'S ON THE WEST SIDE. SORRY. MY COMPUTER TAKES A SECOND TO PULL THE ADDRESSES. THAT'S PROBABLY. THAT'S ALL SHOWN AS RESIDENTIAL.

RESIDENTIAL. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YEAH. SO I WANT TO GET CLEAR WITH THIS. SO IT'S THE EAST SIDE BASICALLY FOR COMMERCIAL. WERE YOU TALKING TO THE MIC AT LEAST? YEAH. YOU'RE ON STAFF. SO IS THE EAST SIDE THEN. STRATEGICALLY PLANNED FOR COMMERCIAL? YES. ALL

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I'LL SECOND. OKAY. IT'S BEEN MADE AND SECONDED. OKAY. THE ROLL PLEASE. MR. KIRBY? YES, MR. LARSON? YES, MISS. BRIGGS? YES. MR. SHELL. YES. MOTION PASSES WITH ALL VOTES TO ADMIT THE DOCUMENTS. OKAY. THANK YOU. I DID NOT HAVE ANY NEW CONDITIONS. COME ON. TOMMY. SO. THERE WERE NO CONDITIONS IN THE STAFF REPORT, CORRECT? NO, NO. THERE. HEAR A MOTION ON THE PLAT ITSELF. I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE FPL 23 2025 BASED ON THE FINDINGS IN THE STAFF REPORT. AT THIS TIME, THERE ARE NO CONDITIONS LISTED IN THE STAFF REPORT. DO I HEAR A SECOND? SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? KAYLA. ROLL, PLEASE. MR. SHELL. YES, MISS. BRIGGS? YES, MR. KIRBY? YES. MR. LARSON? YES. THE MOTION PASSES WITH ALL VOTES TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION. THANK YOU. AND KEEP INFORMED. AND WHERE DID HE GO? IT MAY TAKE A COUPLE MINUTES JUST TO MAKE SURE THEY GET WITH JAY AND GET THE EMAIL ADDRESS WRITTEN DOWN. LET'S TAKE TEN MINUTES. OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO STRETCH OUR LEGS A BIT AND EXCHANGE BUSIN NINE. I'M SORRY.Y FAULT. AND WITH THAT, IF EVERYONE COULD EITHER TAKE THEIR SEATS OR STAND IN A DIFFERENT ROOM, WE'D BE GOOD. AND WE HAD A ROAD WIDTH THAT I WANTED TO READ INTO THE RECORD. SO FROM ENGINEERING, OF COURSE. JOSH, WHEN YOU'RE READY. SORRY, JOSH, THE TYPICAL SECTION THAT WE HAVE FOR BABBITT ROAD IS CURRENTLY 34FT FROM CURB TO CURB. THANK YOU. WHEN WE GO TO OTHER BUSINESS GRADERS, DRIVE THROUGH.

YEAH. ALRIGHTY. I HAVE THE SITE PLAN UP THAT CARTER AND LARRY GAVE ME TODAY, SO I WILL LET YOU GUYS HAVE AT IT. OKAY. SO, CARTER BEAN, DO YOU NEED ME TO DO THE ADDRESS AGAIN? YEAH. 4400 NORTH HIGH STREET, COLUMBUS, OHIO, 4314. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO DISCUSS THIS YET AGAIN. THE LAST TIME WE WERE HERE, WE WERE TALKING IN GENERALITIES, AND I WANTED TO COME BACK IN WITH SOMETHING MORE SPECIFIC. THIS MORE SPECIFIC PLAN, HOWEVER, IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN A CONVERSATION LARRY HAD EARLIER TODAY. SO THE TWO OF US WILL GO AT THIS TOGETHER. THE INTENT OF THE PLAN, YOU SEE HERE, IT WAS TO BRING ALL OF THE DRIVE THROUGH TRAFFIC IN FROM THE SOUTHERN DRIVE AISLE SO THAT YOU COULD LOOP INTO THE STACKING LANE HERE. AND IN DOING SO, IF THERE WERE ANY BACKLOG TO THE STACKING, IT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, WITHIN THIS DRIVE AISLE. LARRY'S CONVERSATION WITH STAFF TODAY. HOWEVER, IT'S A GREAT POINT. IT BECOMES A BIT CUMBERSOME FOR THESE SPACES ON A REGULAR BASIS TO CIRCULATE. SO THE NEXT IDEA WOULD BE TO STOP STACKING HERE, ALLOW THIS DRIVE AISLE TO CONTINUE THROUGH AS IT DOES TODAY OR WILL, AND THEN PLACE A SIGN HERE FOR ADDITIONAL STACKING TO OCCUR IN THIS NORTH DRIVE AISLE, BLOCKING ONLY SPACES THAT WOULD MOST LIKELY BE STAFF PARKING SPACES. SO THE DRIVE THROUGH WOULD BE SPLIT INTO TWO PIECES, ALLOWING CIRCULATION TO CONTINUE THROUGH THE SITE. BUT QUEUING WOULD OCCUR IN THAT NORTHERN DRIVE. WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE JUST TO GET LIKE A 30,000 FOOT OVERVIEW OF LIKE THE SITE AND WHERE THE PROPERTIES THAT YOU WANT? CAN

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SORRY IF I MISSED IT, I WAS. NO NO, NO, THAT WAS. BUT THAT WAS REGARDING SOMETHING ELSE. OH, ALRIGHT. OKAY. OH, YEAH. OKAY. SO THIS WAY RUNS ALONG HERE. OKAY. FORREST SMITH'S MILL, THE CENTER SITS ON THE NORTH EDGE OF THIS RETENTION BASIN. GREAT DRIVE THROUGH THAT. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT IN HERE, PARALLELING WOODCREST WAY. OKAY, THIS IS PERFECT. WOODCREST IS PRIVATE. WOODCREST IS? YEAH. IT'S INTERNAL. PARDON ME. OH. I'M SORRY. WHAT? YEAH, WOODCREST IS PRIVATE, AND WOODCREST IS A RIGHT IN, RIGHT OUT. ONLY ONTO SMITH MILL ROAD. BUTTONS HERE. I NEVER GET TO DO ONE OF THESE. DON'T GIVE ME ONE OF THESE. YOU'RE IN TROUBLE. SO, WOODCREST CURRENTLY RUNS FROM. THIS IS KNOWN AS FOREST. THAT THEN CIRCLES THERE AND GOES OUT TO 62. WOODCREST WAY BEGINS BASICALLY OUT IN FRONT OF THE HAMPTON HOTEL AND RUNS ACROSS BEHIND WHAT IS NOW POPEYE'S, DAIRY QUEEN, TURKEY HILL. AND THIS EXTENSION IS COMPLETED AND IT EXITS HERE AS A RIGHT IN, RIGHT OUT ONLY. GREAT. OKAY, SO WHAT WE WANTED TO FOCUS ON. AND LET ME PREFACE THIS. WE ARE IN AN LOI WITH GRAETER'S ICE CREAM. GRAETER'S WAS NOT HAPPY WITH THE FACT THAT WHAT WAS APPROVED CONDITIONALLY WAS A PICK UP WINDOW ONLY, NOT A FULL SERVICE DRIVE THROUGH. SO THAT'S WHY WE ARE HERE. THE THOUGHT PROCESS FOR US IS HOW DO WE KEEP ANY OF THEIR STACKING BEYOND EVEN WHAT IS CODE, THE 9 OR 10 THAT WE ARE REQUIRED? HOW DO WE KEEP THAT STACKING INTERNAL TO OUR PARKING LOT AND NOT OVERFLOWING INTO PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY, OR EVEN INTO WOODCREST WAY? SO, PER CARTERS PLAN, IF YOU COULD PULL THAT BACK UP. THANK YOU. WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT ANY OF THIS STACKING DOESN'T OVERFLOW INTO WOODCREST, EVEN THOUGH WOODCREST IS PRIVATE AND SOMEBODY COULD ENTER FROM FOREST DRIVE BECAUSE UNDERSTAND, THERE'S A CONTROLLED SIGNAL TRAFFIC SIGNAL HERE. THIS IS SMITH MILL AND THIS IS FOREST.

SO THEY CAN COME IN AT THE SIGNAL, COME ACROSS INTO OUR LOT AND BASICALLY COME DOWN THE DRIVE THROUGH AS NORMAL. OR IF SOMEBODY WAS DRIVING BY AND REALIZES THAT'S GRAETER'S, THEY COULD MAKE THE QUICK RIGHT INTO WOODCREST AND COME IN THIS WAY. SO THERE'S MULTIPLE WAYS THEY COULD COME INTO OUR CENTER. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MR. WALLACE BROUGHT UP, BECAUSE I WAS WATCHING THE PRESENTATION CARTER GAVE A COUPLE MONTHS AGO, HIS CONCERN WAS THE MIX OF TENANTS.

ALONG WITH THAT TRAFFIC BETWEEN GRAETER'S. SO JUST SO YOU ARE AWARE, THIS IS A BANK, AS YOU MAY RECALL, THIS CENTER AREA IS A MEDICAL PRACTICE. IT IS A LOCAL PRACTICE KNOWN AS SKIN, SKIN, SORRY SKIN, PERFECT SKIN SOLUTIONS. AARON OLAF'S FIRM. SHE'S A LOCAL PERSON. THEY ARE OUTGROWN THEIR SPACE IN NEW ALBANY. SO THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE THIS SPACE. AND THEN THIS IS NOVACARE REHAB. SO WHAT YOU HAVE OCCURRING HERE IS ALL DAYTIME USES 9 TO 5, 8 TO 5 GRAETER'S, AS WE'VE LEARNED FROM THE GRAETER'S IN GAHANNA THAT I DID AT BEECHER ROAD AND HAMILTON, MOST OF THEIR BUSINESSES OCCURRING AFTER SCHOOL AND THEN IN THE EVENINGS AFTER SPORTS.

RIGHT. THEIR HOURS IMPACT HOURS ARE GENERALLY FROM 3:00 TILL 10:00 AT NIGHT IS WHEN THEY'RE THE BUSIEST, ESPECIALLY IN THE SUMMER HOURS. SPRING AND SUMMER. SO FOR US TO ALLOW THIS STACKING TO FLOW INTO THIS DRIVE LANE DOESN'T HINDER THIS PARKING, BECAUSE GENERALLY THIS PARKING WON'T GET USED. THE HOURS THAT GRAETER'S IS BUSY BECAUSE THAT WILL BE STAFF PARKING FOR THESE FOLKS. BUT AFTER 5:00 THAT WON'T BE USED. SO I'M NOT CONCERNED MYSELF AS THE LANDLORD OWNER THAT THE STACKING HERE WILL BE DISRUPTIVE TO THE REST OF THE OPERATION IN THE CENTER OR THE REST OF THE PARKING. THE OTHER THING TO UNDERSTAND, AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE FOCUSED ON WITH THIS RETAIL CENTER, EVEN THOUGH IT HAS GONE MORE PROFESSIONAL WITH THE BANK, THE MEDICAL AND THE REHAB, IS WE TOOK AND REDESIGNED THIS POND AS KIND OF AN AMENITY TO THE CENTER. AND ALL OF THIS IS PATIO. SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE WERE HOPING FOR WAS A FOOD TYPE ORIENTED USER

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STOP WAITING FOR THEIR TURN, AND THEY START STACKING INTO WOODCREST BECAUSE THEY CAN'T GET IN, YOU KNOW? AND IF THEY KNEW THAT YOU CAN'T MAKE THE HARD RIGHT FROM WOODCREST WOOD. WELL, ONCE YOU GO LEFT TO RIGHT FROM WOODCREST, YOU CAN'T MAKE THE TURN DOWN DIRECTLY. COME IN SOMEWHERE. IT WILL. WELL, THAT THE ONLY MOTION THAT GETS YOU INTO THE TURN LANE IS TO GO THROUGH THE UPPER DRIVE AISLE, RIGHT TO LEFT, TO ENCOURAGE THAT TO BE A RIGHT TO LEFT MOVEMENT.

DON'T KNOW IF YOU I DON'T KNOW IF I'M TRYING TO SOLVE A PROBLEM THAT WON'T EXIST, BUT I'M LOOKING AHEAD AT CARS COMING OFF OF WOODCREST. CAN I ADDRESS THAT? I THINK I MEAN, I'VE BEEN TO I LIVE KIND OF CLOSE TO GRAETER'S. I DON'T THINK I'VE EVER SEEN ONE WITH NINE CARS IN THE DRIVE THROUGH. BUT WHEN WE DO CONDITIONAL USE, USUALLY FOLKS FROM THE BUSINESS ON THE BUSINESS OPERATION SIDES CAN COME IN AND HELP ADDRESS SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU'RE ASKING, LIKE ON APP, LIKE BRING THE ACTUAL DATA. WE'VE DONE THE SAME. WE'VE DONE THAT FOR LIKE POPEYES AND DUNKIN DONUTS. LIKE WHEN ARE YOU BUSY? HOW MANY CARS ARE IN THE DRIVEWAY OR IN THE DRIVE THROUGH? AGAIN, ANECDOTALLY, I'VE NEVER SEEN IT. ONE WITH NINE CARS. AND AGAIN, AS WE AS STAFF TALK TODAY, UNLIKE THE DAIRY QUEEN WHERE YOU'RE ORDERING A HAMBURGER, HOT DOG, FRENCH FRIES, IT'S MORE THAN JUST ICE CREAM. AS WE ALL KNOW, GRAETER'S IS ICE CREAM.

THERE'S NOTHING ELSE. AND AS SIERRA SAID TODAY, IF YOU REALLY WANT TO GET A FEEL FOR THE FLAVORS, YOU CAN'T DO IT FROM A DRIVE THROUGH. YOU GOT TO GO INSIDE. LOOK AT THE CASE. I DO BELIEVE YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT ICE CREAM, BUT SO WE HOPE THAT IT IS AS MUCH ABOUT THE EXPERIENCE.

AND THAT'S KIND OF THE GRAETER'S EXPERIENCE, RIGHT? YOU GO INSIDE AND YOU. BUT BUT WE UNDERSTAND THERE WILL BE THOSE DRIVE THROUGH MEETINGS. HENCE THEY HAVE A DEMAND FOR IT. SO OBVIOUSLY WE WERE HOPING THAT THEY WOULD BE SATISFIED WITH A PICK UP WINDOW ONLY BECAUSE YOU ORDER FROM YOUR PHONE, BUT I GUESS IT'S A DIFFERENT ANIMAL WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ICE CREAM.

BUT SO YOU'VE GOT IF IT WAS JUST PURELY THE STRAIGHT PIECE, YOU'VE GOT EIGHT STACKING. WE'VE GOT, YEAH, EIGHT AND CODE CALLS FOR WITH THAT SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT IS DOWN THE PROPOSED FOR RIGHT THERE. SO HENCE WHY THIS DOESN'T WORK. AND THE IDEA THAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT WOULD GIVE US A LOT MORE. STACKING OPPORTUNITY. WOULD WOULD STRIPING HELP STRIPING SIGNAGE.

YEAH. I MEAN WE TALKED ABOUT THAT'S ONE OF THE IDEAS WE HAD IS ON THE SIDE OF THE DUMPSTER CONTAINER OR THE DUMPSTER WALL HERE. WE CAN HAVE SIGNAGE THERE THAT KIND OF DIRECTS PEOPLE. WE CAN DO SOME STRIPING IN THE LOT. WE CAN DO ARROWS. WE THINK I MEAN, IT'LL WE'LL LEARN THE PROCESS. BUT YOU KNOW, WE'LL WORK WITH GRAETER'S OPERATIONAL PEOPLE, AS CHRIS MENTIONED. BUT AGAIN, WE DIDN'T WANT TO BRING THEM IN TONIGHT BECAUSE THIS IS SOMEWHAT INFORMAL. AND WE WANT TO KIND OF KICK AROUND IDEAS WITH STAFF TODAY AS WELL AS YOU ALL. AND WE APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU'RE GIVING US THAT TIME. SO THEY ONLY HAVE THE ONE INBOUND FROM WOODCREST, RIGHT?

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'S ONEITF OHOSE T THINGWHERES IFOU'RE Y DRINGVI ANDOU PAS YDSE PASS YOU PREY MUCHTT ALRDYEA BUT T ONC YOU'VEE GOT TO. ERE'SWH YOUR SIGNA GOIGENG THE?TOO S IF'M, I IF I'M AOSSCR TREET S AT THEOSPITA HL, DOTN' LIVIN NEWE AANY,LB NOT OM THIFRSREA, A AND I'M LEANG OSPITA H I'M CL.ING DOMNOW MILLS.S RIGHT. SO IF I'M HERE, CAN I SEE THE SIGNAGE FROM HERE? IF I'M AT THE STOP AT THAT LIGHT, OR IS IT. I'M GOING TO BE COMING ALONG AND I'M GOING TO SAY, OH, MY HUSBAND IS HAVING HIS HIP REPLACED. I'D LIKE AN ICE CREAM. WELL, I NEVER SAW THE SIGNAGE BACK HERE. NOW I CAN'T TURN IN HERE. WELL, NO, SORRY. YOU LOST MY BUSINESS. AND GO RIGHT AND GO IN AND TURN AND COME BACK AROUND ALL. THE WAY OR FURTHER UP WOODCREST. I GUESS IF I'M WAITING ON MY HUSBAND TO HAVE HIS HIP REPLACED, I'LL HAVE TIME TO SAY I'M NOT SURE I WOULD. YOU'RE GOING TO GO INSIDE. THE MILKSHAKE THE WAY YOU WANT, BUT CAN YOU GET IN THAT WAY? IS THERE? WHERE'S THE ENTRANCE? SO THE QUESTION IS, CAN YOU DO THE U-TURN? YEP. I KNOW THEY CAN GO TO THE RIGHT, RIGHT HERE, WHICH IS NOW WENDY'S HERE. AND THE EXISTING THERE.

THEY CAN COME THROUGH THAT WAY. AND COME IN THIS WAY. AND IF YOU FLIP BACK TO THE PREVIOUS DIAGRAM. SORRY, YOU GOT TO BE COMMITTED AT THAT POINT IN MY OPINION. SO I'M JUST YOU KNOW, YOU'RE LOOKING FOR FEEDBACK. THAT'S I WOULD THINK YOU'D BE ABLE TO SEE THE CRATERS FROM THAT STOP. NO, IT'S ACROSS THE POND. IF YOU MAKE THE RIGHT END THAT'S A RIGHT IN RIGHT. I COULD GO THIS WAY ON. FOR IT, NOT FOR IT. ON SMITH'S MILL. I CAN GO SMITH'S MILL TOWARDS 62. DO THE RIGHT END THING. CAN'T GO IN HERE. AND AS LONG AS I DON'T WANT TO GET IN THE DRIVE THROUGH, I COULD GO IN HERE AND JUST PARK IT AND WALK IN. BUT HE WAS JUST SAYING, WHAT IF WE DON'T HAVE ACCESS ON WOODCREST? WELL, YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOU CAN PARK, BUT IT'S THE U-TURN THING IS, THE ONLY ONE WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT IS THAT I'M GOING THIS WAY, AND I WANT TO DO A U-TURN TO EFFECTIVELY, A U-TURN TO WIND UP IN THE RIGHT THERE. QUESTION OF HOW MUCH STACKING STARTS OCCURRING? YEAH. WITHIN THE RIGHT LANE THAT SOMEBODY COMES IN THAT WAY, WHATEVER SHOULD THEY DO? THEY'RE GOING TO GIVE THEMSELVES A LINE. OR ARE THEY JUST GOING TO GO PARK IN. HERE.

YEAH. AND IT ALSO SAYS THAT THAT'S A PROBLEM THAT'S PREDICATED ON THERE BEING EIGHT CARS IN THE IN THE STACK. SO GREATER IS THE SAYING, ALL RIGHT WE'RE WE MIGHT LOSE ONE WHEN WE'RE FULL. BUT SO DOES MCDONALD'S OR ANYBODY ELSE WHEN THERE. BUT BUT THE GOOD NEWS THERE AGAIN IS WE'LL HAVE A PARKING LOT THAT HAS AMPLE PARKING AT THEIR BUSIEST TIMES IN THE EVENING BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER BUSINESS OPERATING NOW. THOSE ARE TEN YEAR LEASES. WILL THOSE LAST 20 YEARS? I HOPE SO, BUT THERE MIGHT BE A CHANGE IN THE TENANT MIX. BUT AT THIS POINT, FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE, IT'S ALL MEDICAL RELATED AND PROFESSIONAL RELATED 8 TO 5. IS YOUR PARKING COUNT THE MINIMUM REQUIRED, OR IS YOUR PARKING COUNT THE MINIMUM THAT IS REQUIRED? WE'RE AT THE MIC. I'M SORRY. I DON'T THINK SO. I THINK SO, I DON'T RECALL IF ANYTHING, THAT'S WHAT PRECIPITATED THE TABLE BECAUSE WE HAVE TO PUSH THE SITE TO GIVE US MORE PARKING. AND THAT'S WHAT ENDED UP BEING A RETAINING WALL AND RECONFIGURING THE POND, WHICH IS UNDER THE. OTHER QUESTIONS. NOW, THE OTHER REASON I ASKED THAT WAS IF YOU WERE TO

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WE'LL TALK TO GRADERS FURTHER AND GET THAT ON. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK

[VII. Other business]

IF YOU GUYS WANTED STAFF TO EXPLORE FURTHER. I DO HAVE ON THIS SLIDE. WE ALREADY KIND OF HAVE THIS FOR THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD. WE'VE GOT MAJOR THINGS THAT WOULD MEAN THAT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU GOT A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS, YOU WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK BEFORE THEM FOR MAJOR CHANGES. BUT MINOR CAN BE ADMINISTRATIVELY APPROVED BY STAFF. SO JUST WANTED TO SEE YOU KNOW, WHAT YOUR FEELINGS WERE. WE, YOU KNOW, ARE KIND OF COMING UP WITH WHAT WE THINK IS MAJOR VERSUS MINOR. SO IT'S STILL A WORK IN PROGRESS. DO WE HAVE COUNTS ON HOW MANY OF THESE CASES WE'VE HEARD IN THE LAST YEAR, IN THE LAST TEN YEARS? NO, I CAN DEFINITELY DO THAT THOUGH.

YEAH. BECAUSE IF IT'S A SMALL PART OF OUR DOCKET, DON'T BOTHER. WE'LL JUST HEAR IT. IF IT'S A GROWING AND STARTING TO CROWD THINGS OUT, THEN WE MIGHT THINK ABOUT IT. BUT CAN YOU ALSO EMAIL THIS TO US SO WE CAN KIND OF LOOK IT OVER? OF COURSE. YEAH, YEAH. AND OF COURSE IT WOULD BE DIFFERENT SINCE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD, BUT IT KIND OF DOES GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF LIKE, YOU KNOW, IN MY OPINION TODAY THE PARKING SPOTS WOULD BE A MINOR CHANGE. YEAH, I YEAH, THOSE ARE THREE REALLY GOOD EXAMPLES. AND I THINK JUST AND THIS WON'T SHOW UP ON DOCKETS BECAUSE USUALLY WHEN WE TELL PEOPLE THEY HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, THEY DON'T MAKE CHANGES. CANDIDLY, JUST BECAUSE IT'S A IT'S A LONG PROCESS AND THEY DON'T WANT TO SLOW DOWN ANY MORE THAN THEY ALREADY HAVE. AN EXAMPLE OF THAT WE PULLED THAT SIERRA IS LOOKING AT IS THE HAMLET PROJECT. SO AS PART OF THAT SUBMITTAL, YOU GUYS PROBABLY REMEMBER THAT THEY DID A NARRATIVE STATEMENT DESCRIBING TO YOU GUYS ALL THE MINOR THINGS THAT COULD CHANGE BETWEEN WHEN IT WAS APPROVED AND PERMITTING, AND YOU GUYS DID GIVE THEM APPROVAL TO DO, AGAIN, VERY MINOR LANDSCAPING CHANGES OR WINDOW DETAILS, WINDOWS TO REMOVE THINGS. THAT'S KIND OF WHERE OUR BRAINS AT. JUST TO GIVE YOU GUYS A JUST A LOOK. WE HAVE HEARD THAT LIKE ADRIAN AND STEVE BROUGHT THIS TO YOU GUYS MAYBE A DECADE OR SO AGO AND IT WASN'T RECEIVED POSITIVELY. YOU GUYS WEREN'T INTERESTED IN MAKING THOSE CHANGES IN THE CODE AT THAT TIME. SO BEFORE WE TAKE THIS ANY FURTHER, LIKE SIERRA SAID, WE JUST WANTED TO KIND OF GET A JUST A TOE IN THE WATER, LIKE, SHOULD WE KEEP GOING? SHOULD WE NOT? SO RUN THE NUMBERS? YEAH, OKAY. AND IF I HAD TO AND LACKING ANY NUMBERS AND KNOWING WHAT THE COUNTS ARE, THE PART OF ME THAT SAYS, WELL, WE ALL VOLUNTEERED TO DO THIS JOB THAT OUR FIRST QUESTION, TURNAROUND TIME. WHAT WOULD YOUR TURNAROUND TIME BE ON MINOR MODIFICATIONS. HOW LONG WOULD IT TAKE YOU GUYS IF SOMEONE BROUGHT SOMETHING? IS IT OH, THIS IS A MINOR. HOW LONG WOULD YOUR REVIEW AND PROCESS TAKE? DAYS.

OKAY. WELL OKAY. BECAUSE WHAT I WAS GETTING TO WAS IF IT'S AT ALL ELABORATE AND IF IT CROSSED EITHER OF OUR TWO MEETING BOUNDARIES REGULARLY, IT WAS LONG ENOUGH THAT WOULD CROSS A MEETING BOUNDARY SOMEWHERE THAT Y'ALL TELL US BEFORE YOU ACTED DURING ONE OF OUR TWO MEETINGS.

EXCEPT WE DON'T ALWAYS HAVE BOTH OF THEM. BUT FOR US TO SAY WE WANT THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE MY ONLY THOUGHT AND THAT MIGHT UNFORTUNATELY DEFEAT THE WHOLE PURPOSE. BECAUSE THEN YOU

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SO I WOULD DEFINITELY WANT TO KEEP THOSE UNDER THE JURISDICTION. YEAH. OF COURSE.

AND I WOULD SAY LIKE ANYTHING THAT CAME TO YOU GUYS FOR PLANNING COMMISSION, LIKE IF THEY WERE ADDING SOMETHING LIKE THAT, I WOULD SAY THAT'S A MAJOR CHANGE. AND OF COURSE, THE DRIVE THROUGH THAT WE JUST HEARD, THAT'S A MAJOR CHANGE. YEAH. BUT ANYTHING THAT LIKE A VARIANCE THAT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, EXPANDING OF COURSE, OF COURSE I WANT TO HEAR THAT SOMETIMES HAVING A HURDLE IS GOOD. RIGHT. SOMETHING'S TOO EASY. YEAH. YOU'RE GOING TO GET WAY TOO MANY. BUT IN CHRIS'S. RIGHT. LIKE I JUST HAD AN EXAMPLE WITH PANDA EXPRESS. THEY WANTED TO TWEAK SOMETHING IN THEIR LANDSCAPING, AND THEY JUST DECIDED TO KEEP IT AS IS BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T WANT TO GO BACK THROUGH THE PROCESS. YOU KNOW? SO IT'S I THINK WE HAVE A LOT THAT YOU'RE RIGHT. THEY JUST DON'T EVEN PERCEIVE, YOU KNOW, PROCEED TO DO THE CHANGE. AND WE KNOW THAT WE'RE MEETING WITH YOU GUYS A LOT MORE FREQUENTLY. I THINK OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS, I WAS JUST WE WERE ALL JUST LAUGHING LIKE SOMEBODY SAID, WHAT'S WHAT'S WHAT'S AN INFORMAL PLANNING COMMISSION DATE. AND I WAS LIKE, WE DON'T REALLY DO THOSE ANYMORE. EVERY PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, IT FEELS LIKE WE JUST MET WITH, YOU KNOW, TWICE A MONTH FOR THE PAST 12 MONTHS. AND THAT DIDN'T USED TO BE THAT WAY. SO WE'RE ALSO TRYING TO BE MINDFUL OF ARE THERE ANY OF THOSE THINGS THAT WE CAN JUST KIND OF TAKE OFF YOUR PLATE, OBVIOUSLY OPEN TO YOUR THOUGHTS, BUT I THINK IT'S A GOOD EXERCISE LIKE LET'S REVIEW IT, LET'S HAVE A CONVERSATION. I MEAN, I THINK SIMPLIFYING THINGS, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY FOR US, BUT ALSO FOR RESIDENTS AND APPLICANTS, YOU KNOW, THERE COULD BE POSITIVES TO THAT AS WELL. SO AND ALSO, AS YOU NOTED, CHECK IN WHAT OTHER JURISDICTIONS LIKE NEIGHBORING CITIES ARE DOING, I THINK IS ALSO IMPORTANT. AND ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS TO LOOK AT, AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE GOT AN EASY WAY TO LAY ACCESS TO IT. BACK WHEN STAFF MADE RECOMMENDATIONS, WHICH YOU DON'T ANYMORE, HOW OFTEN ON SOME OF THE SMALL THINGS LIKE WE WANT MY, MY, WE SCREWED UP IN MY PORCH OR MY PAVERS ENCROACHED TWO FEET INTO CONSERVATION ZONE, WHERE THE COMMISSION SAID, NO, WE DISAGREE WITH STAFF AND YOU WILL TAKE THOSE UP OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THAT'S ONE WAY OF SHOWING YOURSELF, OKAY, HERE'S WHERE STAFF AND COMMISSION WOULD DISAGREE ON ON SOMETHING. THESE THESE WOULD BE REQUIRED IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR GUIDELINES IS THE TIME WHEN YOU FLIP THE COIN AND SAY, OH, I'M WRONG. YEAH, OKAY. AS A WAY OF LOOKING BACK AT THIS. YEAH. AND JUST, YOU KNOW, TO BE MINDFUL EVEN IF IT'S MINOR, BUT AND THEN IT DOESN'T MEET CODE, IT'S STILL GOING TO COME BACK BEFORE YOU GUYS. YOU KNOW, IF THOSE PARKING SPOTS, YOU KNOW, I GUESS IF THEY DECREASE PARKING SPOTS AND THEY WEREN'T MEETING THEIR PARKING MINIMUMS AND THAT WOULD NEED TO COME BACK BEFORE YOU GUYS. GREAT. AND THAT VARIANCES ARE THINGS THAT WE ALWAYS, ALWAYS HAVE TO ALWAYS COME BACK. EXACTLY. YEP. YEAH. THIS WOULD JUST BE HEY I WANT TO MAKE A MINOR CHANGE. DOESN'T IMPACT, YOU KNOW THEIR ZONING TEXT OR ANYTHING. JUST THOSE ITEMS. GREAT. YEAH. THANK YOU. YEAH. TAKES US TO OUR ANNUAL ORGANIZATIONAL MEETING. SO WE NEED A CHAIR. I'M FULLY CONTENT TO CONTINUE SERVING. DO WE HEAR ANY NOMINATIONS FOR CHAIR? I'LL NOMINATE YOU. NEIL, I THINK YOU'VE DONE AN INCREDIBLE JOB THIS PAST PAST YEAR. SO I WILL NOMINATE NEIL. ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS? ALL RIGHT. CLOSING THAT. SO WE HAVE ACTUALLY JUST DO THAT. OR DO WE DO THAT AS A I'M HAVING A ROBERT'S RULES BRAIN FADE RIGHT NOW. YOU WANT TO MAKE THAT A MOTION. YEAH I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ELECT NEIL TO CHAIRPERSON AGAIN FOR THE UPCOMING YEAR. DO I HEAR A SECOND SECOND. EXCUSE ME A SECOND. I DIDN'T HAVE MY MIC ON AND DISCUSSION THE MOTION. OKAY. THE ROLL PLEASE, MR. SHELL. YES, MISS BRIGGS? YES, MR. KIRBY? YES, MR. LARSEN? YES. MOTION PASSES, AND NEIL KIRBY IS THE CHAIR OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR 2025. I NOMINATE DAVE FOR. ACTUALLY, BEFORE I SAY THAT, DID ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO BE VICE CHAIR? I MOVE THAT WE HAVE DAVE AS OUR VICE CHAIR. I'LL SECOND THAT. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE

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SECRETARY MIKE, THE CURRENT SECRETARY, I THINK SO. I'M HAPPY TO SERVE THAT ROLE AGAIN. IF I DIDN'T DO A THING WELL, I'LL NOMINATE HANS TO SERVE AS OUR PLANNING COMMISSION SECRETARY AGAIN. HERE, A SECOND. I'LL SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? HEAR THE ROLL, PLEASE, MISS BRIGGS? YES, MR. LARSON? YES, MR. KIRBY? YES, MR. SHELL? YES. THE MOTION PASSES, AND HANS IS THE SECRETARY OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR 2025. I MOVE THAT FOR OUR TIME AND LOCATION OF OUR INFORMAL, REGULAR MEETINGS. WE CONTINUE WITH THE REGULAR SCHEDULE THAT WE HAVE DONE FOR THE PAST MANY YEARS. DO I HEAR A SECOND? I'LL SECOND THAT. I PRESUME THAT WAS CLEAR. YES.

OKAY. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? GO TO THE ROLL, PLEASE, MR. KIRBY? YES, MR. LARSON? YES, MR. SHELL? YES, MISS BRIGGS? YES. THE MOTION PASSES WITH THE INFORMAL AND FORMAL PLANNING COMMISSION MEETINGS CONTINUING AS ESTABLISHED. OKAY. WE. I'M SO SORRY WE MISSED ONE. THE LIAISON PC LIAISON TO THE BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS. IT'S CURRENTLY HANS. THE LIAISON TO THE. ARE YOU READY? YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. SURE, I NOMINATE HANS. FOR YOUR SECOND. SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? OKAY. THE ROLL. MR. KIRBY? YES, MISS BRIGGS? YES, MR. LARSON? YES, MR. SHELL? YES. THE MOTION PASSES, AND HANS IS THE PC REPRESENTATIVE ON THE BCA FOR 2025. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, ALL MEMBERS FOR COMMENT. SARAH. NOTHING FOR ME. NO THANK YOU. NO COMMENT. THANK YOU. NONE FOR ME. FOR ME.

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