[1. CALL TO ORDER]
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          MAYOR WHENEVER YOU ARE READY. GOOD EVENING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, AND WELCOME TO THE NEW ALBANY CITY COUNCIL MEETING FOR TUESDAY, AUGUST 5TH. I WOULD INVITE EVERYONE TO STAND WITH COUNCIL, IF YOU CAN, AND RECITE THE NATIONAL PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. CLERK. MASON. THE ROLL, PLEASE. 
          AND IF COUNCIL WILL TURN ON THEIR MICROPHONES, TURN OFF YOUR PHONES AND TURN OFF YOUR MIC. 
          MAYOR SPALDING HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER. BRISK HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER. DULL HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER. KISS. COUNCIL MEMBER. SHAW HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER. WILTROUT IS TRAVELING AND IS REQUESTED TO BE EXCUSED. ALL RIGHT. I WOULD MOVE FOR US TO EXCUSE THE ABSENCE OF COUNCIL MEMBER WILTROUT SECOND MAYOR. SPALDING. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. KIST. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. SCHULTZ. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. FELLOWS. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. DETRICK. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. BRISK. YES. I HAVE SIX YES VOTES TO EXCUSE. COUNCIL MEMBER FROM TONIGHT'S MEETING. 
          [4. ACTION ON MINUTES]
ACTION ON THE MINUTES. WE HAVE TWO SETS OF MINUTES FOR TONIGHT'S CONSIDERATION. FIRST FROM OUR BUDGET WORKSHOP IN NOVEMBER. ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS TO THE MINUTES FROM THE BUDGET WORKSHOP? I'LL REPORT THAT AFTER DISTRIBUTION, I WORKED WITH FINANCE DIRECTOR STOTTS AND SOME MINOR CLARIFICATIONS WHICH WERE FIXED ON THE ORIGINAL. MUCH APPRECIATION I RECEIVED NO OTHER NOTES. ALL RIGHT. THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL COMMENT. I WOULD MOVE FOR THE ADOPTION BY CONSENSUS, AND THAT TAKES US TO OUR REGULAR MEETING MINUTES FROM THE JULY 15TH MEETING. ANY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS TO THOSE MINUTES I HAVE RECEIVED? NO, NO CHANGES AND I WOULD ALSO MOVE FOR THEIR ADOPTION BY CONSENSUS. ANY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS TO THE AGENDA PROPOSED BY STAFF OR COUNCIL? I REQUESTED? NO, I'VE RECEIVED NO REQUESTS. ALL RIGHT 
          [6. HEARING OF VISITORS]
THEN, THAT TAKES US TO HEARING AND VISITORS. LET'S JUST START WITH CHIEF JONES. I BELIEVE YOU HAVE AN UPDATE FOR US. THANKS, MAYOR, I APPRECIATE IT. I WANTED TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON THE E-BIKE AND SCOOTER CHANGES THAT WE'RE PROPOSING FOR THE ORDINANCES, AND ALSO JUST THE EDUCATIONAL ASPECT AS WELL. SO THANK YOU. MIGHT BE A SHORT PRESENTATION. THERE WE GO. OKAY. 
          THANKS. IN REGARDS TO THE EDUCATION, YOU KNOW, I SPOKE WITH SUPERINTENDENT SAWYERS AND OTHER STAFF AT THE SCHOOLS. THEY ARE VERY RECEPTIVE TO WORKING WITH US TO TRY TO HELP EDUCATE ALL THE STUDENTS ABOUT JUST THINGS LIKE ETIQUETTE, SAFETY AND ULTIMATELY CHANGES THAT WE MAKE IN OUR CODIFIED ORDINANCE THAT MIGHT IMPACT THE KIDS. SO WHAT WE'RE STARTING OFF WITH IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO GIVE A PRESENTATION TO THE KIDS. A NUMBER OF THE GRADES HAVE PRESENTATIONS TO START OFF THE YEAR. SO WE'RE GOING TO BE INCLUDED IN THAT AND GIVE A PRESENTATION TO THE STUDENTS TO GET THEM KIND OF STARTED OFF ON THE RIGHT FOOT AS WE GO INTO FALL. AND THEN LATER IN THE YEAR WHEN WE GET TOWARDS SPRING, THAT'LL GIVE US A CHANCE TO REALLY PUT TOGETHER A LOT MORE SUBSTANTIAL PROGRAM. AND WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS TO HAVE LIKE A REGISTRATION PROGRAM THAT THE THAT THE KIDS NEED TO REGISTER THEIR E-BIKES OR SCOOTERS IF THEY'RE GOING TO BRING THEM TO SCHOOL. AND THE MAIN REQUIREMENT FOR GETTING A REGISTRATION PERMIT IS THAT THEY NEED TO TAKE THE EITHER IT'S GOING TO BE ONLINE OR IN PERSON SAFETY COURSE. SO WE THINK THAT WITH WORKING WITH THE SCHOOLS, ONE, THEY'RE GREAT TO WORK WITH, BUT TWO, THE REACH THAT WE HAVE AND REACHING AS MANY KIDS AS POSSIBLE THROUGH THE SCHOOLS IS A LOT MORE THAN WE WOULD DO, LIKE IF WE HAD A SUMMER PROGRAM TYPE THING. WE'RE ALSO WORKING WITH JOSH AND HIS TEAM TO PUSH THIS MESSAGE OUT BEYOND THE SCHOOLS TO THE COMMUNITY. SO I THINK ONCE WE HAVE THE CHANGES IN THE ORDINANCE, IT'LL BE A GOOD TIME TO SEND THAT OUT AND MAKE SURE THAT WE PASS ALONG THAT SAME MESSAGE AND, AND NOT ONLY MAKE SURE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHAT THE ORDINANCES ARE, BUT ALSO JUST TO BUILD A LITTLE A CULTURE OF LET'S SHARE THE PAST TOGETHER AND COURTESY. YEAH, AS YOU MIGHT EXPECT, THERE'S SOME CHALLENGES WHEN IT COMES TO ENFORCEMENT, SO WE CERTAINLY WANT TO TRY TO GET AS MUCH VOLUNTEER COMPLIANCE AS POSSIBLE. SO IN REGARDS TO THE ORDINANCES AND THESE THE ONES THAT YOU SEE UP HERE ON THE SCREEN, THOSE ARE SOME OF THE FIRST ONES THAT WE LOOKED AT. THOSE ARE REALLY ABOUT DEFINITIONS. SO IN LOOKING AT THE ORDINANCES THEY WERE WRITTEN SOME TIME AGO REALLY BEFORE THE E-BIKES AND SCOOTERS WERE, WERE A THING. AND SO THESE DEFINITIONS REALLY NEED TO BE TIGHTENED UP. SOME OF THEM VAGUELY KIND OF COVER E-BIKES AND SCOOTERS AND SOME DON'T AT ALL. SO REALLY TRYING TO UPDATE THE, THE, THE DEFINITIONS AND IN SOME CASES TRYING TO CONSOLIDATE 
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DEFINITIONS TO MAKE THEM MORE CONSISTENT THROUGHOUT THE CHAPTER. THE EXISTING PROVISIONS. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT 16 DIFFERENT SECTIONS OF, OF OUR ORDINANCES. WE THERE'S A SAMPLE UP THERE THAT'S LISTED, YOU KNOW, OVERTAKING AND PASSING ON THE LEFT, DRIVING SIDEWALKS, RECKLESS OP RIGHT OF WAY AND CROSSWALKS, PARENT'S RESPONSIBILITY AND RIDING ON THE RIGHT SIDE. SO A NUMBER OF THE COMPLAINTS THESE GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE THAT I RECEIVED RECENTLY IS ABOUT SCOOTERS AND E-BIKES TRAVELING DOWN THE ROAD IN THE LANE OF TRAVEL. SO THEY'RE BASICALLY MIXED IN WITH CARS. AND YOU MIGHT HAVE A, YOU KNOW, A 14 YEAR OLD ON A SCOOTER THAT'S MIXED IN WITH TRAFFIC AS IF IT WAS A MOTORCYCLE. AND SO REALLY TRYING TO CLARIFY THAT A LOT OF THE A LOT OF OUR GENERAL ORDINANCES WHEN IT COMES TO TRAFFIC AND PEDESTRIANS AND CYCLISTS, BY CHANGING THE DEFINITION, THOSE WILL ALSO APPLY TO E-BIKES AND SCOOTERS. 
          CONSIDERATIONS. SO IN NO WAY. AND SOME OF THESE THINGS ARE WE TALKING ABOUT. COUNCILMAN KISSED. WE USED HIS PHOTO UP THERE AS A GOOD MODEL, BUT I MEAN ASHAMED. I DON'T HAVE A HELMET ON. NO, NO, BUT HE'S HE'S THE PICTURE OF COMPLIANCE WITH ALL THESE. SO. LOOKS LIKE HELMET HEAD. YEAH. VERY HARD HEAD. BUT SO ONE OF THE THINGS IS WE TALKED ABOUT SIGNALING WHEN PASSING. SO I'M SURE YOU GUYS HAVE EXPERIENCED IT. BUT IF YOU'RE WALKING OR YOU'RE RIDING A BIKE A TYPICAL BIKE, THEN YOU MIGHT HAVE A SCOOTER OR AN E-BIKE COME UP BEHIND YOU. 
          SOMETIMES IT STARTLES YOU. WE ARE CONSIDERING PUTTING IN A REQUIREMENT TO SIGNAL AN AUDIBLE OR OR A SIGNAL LIKE THAT TO PASS A SLOWER MOVING PERSON, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS WE THOUGHT OF WITH SO MANY PEOPLE WHERE THE EARBUDS DO WE WANT TO CONSIDER THAT, HEY, IF YOU'RE IF YOU ARE ON A PATH OR YOU'RE A PEDESTRIAN ON A BIKE, STROLLER, WALKING A DOG, DO WE WANT TO REQUIRE THAT THAT PERSON ALSO REMAIN ALERT AND ABLE TO HEAR THAT SIGNAL THAT'S BEING BROADCAST? YOU KNOW, OTHER THINGS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS ENFORCEMENT PROVISIONS. SO AS WE MOVE THROUGH THESE, WHETHER IT BE TONIGHT OR IN THE FUTURE BEFORE THIS IS FINALIZED, WE'D LOVE SOME FEEDBACK AND SOME ANY TYPE OF GUIDANCE YOU MIGHT HAVE ON WHAT YOUR EXPECTATIONS ARE WHEN IT COMES TO ENFORCEMENT. 
          ONE OF THE REASONS WE REALLY WANT TO RELY ON THE EDUCATION, IT'S KIND OF LIKE THE BIKE HELMET LAW. THESE ARE DIFFICULT TO ENFORCE BECAUSE A LOT OF THEM ARE YOUNG KIDS. IT'S NOT LIKE YOU ISSUED A CITATION TO THEM. AND, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO CONVEY A POSITIVE MESSAGE TO THAT AGE GROUP ANYWAY. BUT ALSO WHAT'S THE EXPECTATIONS IF THERE IS IF WE ARE GOING TO BE PRETTY ACTIVE WHEN IT COMES TO ENFORCEMENT, WE WOULD PROBABLY START TO USE SOME MORE CREATIVE WAYS TO DO THAT. 
          SO SPEED LIMITS, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S COME UP QUITE A BIT. AND WITH THE SPEED LIMITS, OBVIOUSLY THE NOTIFICATION OF THE SPEED LIMIT, IF IT'S ON THE ON THE TRAILS, THEN YOU HAVE TO SOMEHOW GET WORD AND POST THIS IN A, IN A LEGAL WAY THAT WHAT THE SPEED LIMIT WOULD BE. THAT WOULD BE QUITE A TASK WITH ALL THE TRAILS THAT THE CITY HAS, AND ALSO STANDARDIZING DEFINITIONS. I MENTIONED WE DIDN'T INTEND TO CHANGE ANYTHING IN REGARDS TO SIDEWALK OTHER THAN CLARIFYING THE DEFINITION, BUT NOT NOT CHANGING THAT WORD. AND THEN ALSO WE HAVE SHARED USE PATHS, LEISURE TRAILS AND MIXED USE PATHS. THOSE ALL ARE ARE INTERMIXED WITHIN THE ORDINANCES. WE'D LIKE TO KIND OF STANDARDIZE THAT DEFINITION TO MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE CLEAR, AS WELL AS THE WHEN IT COMES TO SCOOTERS AND E-BIKES, THERE'S BICYCLES, ELECTRIC BIKES, POWERED SCOOTERS, A VARIETY OF THE DEFINITIONS THAT ARE USED CURRENTLY IN THE ORDINANCE. WE REALLY WANT TO KIND OF WHITTLE THAT DOWN AND TRY TO GET THE A MORE UP TO DATE AND THE MOST CONCISE DEFINITIONS AS POSSIBLE. WHAT WE'RE EXPECTING TO DO IS THAT IS, AFTER THIS EVENING, WE GET ANY FEEDBACK YOU MIGHT HAVE IS TO COME UP WITH OUR FIRST WELL, TO PUT OUT OUR FIRST DRAFT OF THE CHANGES TO THE ORDINANCES AFTER THIS MEETING, BUT BEFORE THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, AND THEN GIVE YOU GUYS A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THIS, GO OVER IT. AND IF YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR GUIDANCE, WE CAN WE CAN COME UP WITH A MORE COMPLETE DRAFT. BUT IF, IF, IF YOU HAVE THOUGHTS, QUESTIONS OR GUIDANCE THAT YOU WANT TO WANT TO TALK ABOUT TONIGHT, WE'D BE HAPPY TO DO SO. 
          ALSO, WE TALKED ABOUT DO WE WANT TO PROHIBIT SCOOTERS AND E-BIKES IN CERTAIN AREAS? TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE, DUBLIN APPARENTLY HAS LIKE CITY OWNED OR THEY'RE A CONTRACTOR OF THE CITY SCOOTERS THAT ARE AVAILABLE FOR PEOPLE TO USE. AND WHEN THEY ARE OUT THERE BEING USED BY THE PUBLIC, THEY ACTUALLY GEO FENCED OFF BRIDGE PARK SO THAT IF YOU TAKE ONE OF THOSE SCOOTERS INTO BRIDGE PARK, THAT IT CEASES TO WORK. AND SO OBVIOUSLY THAT'S NOT THE CASE HERE. BUT THAT KIND OF BROUGHT UP THE CONVERSATION ABOUT, DO WE WANT TO HAVE AREAS THAT THERE IS SOME PROHIBITIONS AGAINST ROSE RUN, FOR EXAMPLE, DO WE WANT TO. IT'S OBVIOUSLY USED AS A AS A WAY FROM THE SCHOOLS TO, TO MARKET STREET AND BACK. DO WE WANT TO SAY THAT, THAT THE, THAT YOU CAN'T GO THROUGH ROSE RUN 
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POWER BY USING THE BATTERY PACKS, YOU HAVE TO EITHER PEDAL OR IF IT'S A SCOOTER, YOU HAVE TO WALK IT THROUGH. THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DISCUSSED. TAYLOR FARM DO WE WANT TO PROHIBIT SCOOTERS AND E-BIKES, OR DO WE WANT TO KIND OF LIMIT THE THAT HAS TO GO UNDER? IF IT'S BEING USED THERE, IT HAS TO BE UNDER HUMAN POWER AND NOT THE ELECTRIC BATTERY VILLAGE CENTER LIMITATIONS, KIND OF THAT SAME IDEA OF BRIDGE PARK IS THERE. DO WE WANT TO PUT LIMITATIONS ON THE USE IN VILLAGE CENTER? AND THEN LASTLY THE SHARED USE PATHS. DO WE WANT TO PUSH THE TYPE THREE BIKE? WHICH IS THE FASTEST E-BIKE OUT THERE, THE MOST CAPABLE? DO WE WANT TO HAVE THEM MOVE TO THE ROAD VERSUS THE PATHS? AND THE BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 1 AND 2 AND TYPE THREE IS, IS THAT TYPE THREE YOU HAVE TO BE 16 YEARS OLD, YOU HAVE TO WEAR A HELMET. SO THE IDEA IS THAT THIS IS AN OLDER, YOU KNOW, PERSON. SO THEN MOVING TO THE ROAD WITH A MORE CAPABLE OR FASTER E-BIKE WOULD, WOULD BE THE MAKE THE MOST SENSE OF THE THREE. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE LEARNED WORKING WITH THE SROS, THE SCHOOLS IS THAT AND I DIDN'T KNOW THIS AHEAD OF TIME, BUT THE SCOOTERS AND E-BIKES CAN CAN BE ALTERED. SO WHEN YOU SEE THE PUBLISHED SPEED OF A SCOOTER OR AN E-BIKE IS THOSE ARE ESSENTIALLY HACKABLE. EITHER THE MANUFACTURER BUILDS IN A WAY THAT YOU CAN OVERRIDE THAT, OR THAT THERE'S OTHER WAYS TO GET AROUND THAT AND, AND TO AND TO MAKE THAT SPEED HIGHER. SO GIVEN THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE A TYPE ONE OR TYPE TWO THAT CAN GO THE SAME SPEED OF A TYPE THREE, WHICH WOULD BE 20 MILES AN HOUR. SO WE WANTED TO KIND OF THROW OUT SOME OF THOSE CONSIDERATIONS, SOME THOUGHTS WE HAD GETTING FEEDBACK THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE. AND THEN I THINK AT THAT POINT WE CAN GIVE YOU A WORKING DRAFT TO KIND OF LET US KNOW WHAT YOU THINK. 
          CHIEF. THANKS FOR DOING THAT. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO UPDATING THE ORDINANCES FOR THIS. I KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS QUITE A BIT. ONE THING I DID NOTICE WAS IT MENTIONED UP THERE WAS HELMETS. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO FOR ALL THREE CLASSES ONE, TWO AND THREE? YEAH I THINK I THINK I THINK THE CITY HAS AN EXISTING BIKE HELMET LAW. AND I THINK THAT WE WERE LOOKING TO EXPAND THAT AS A POSSIBILITY. AGAIN, WE WANTED SOME SOME THOUGHTS AND SOME SOME GUIDANCE. WE COULD CERTAINLY DO THAT GIVEN THE SPEEDS. IT WOULD MAKE SENSE THAT IF YOU'RE ON A BIKE AND HELMETS REQUIRED THAT IF YOU'RE ON A SCOOTER OR AN E-BIKE THAT GOES MUCH FASTER, THEN THE HELMET WOULD ALSO BE REQUIRED. I THINK IT'S VERY COMPREHENSIVE IN HOW YOU'RE APPROACHING IT. I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF INPUT AND QUESTIONS THAT WILL COME FROM USERS AS WELL AS US, AS MORE OF THE DETAILS COME THROUGH, BUT I THINK I LIKE THE EDUCATIONAL PART AND SOME OF THE LIMITATIONS, THE SOUNDING PASSING AND SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS AND POSSIBLY REGISTRATION. I THINK THE SCARIEST THING IS THAT THEY CAN ALTER SPEEDS AND WHO KNOWS WHAT CAN COME OF THAT. SO BUT I THINK YOU'RE APPROACHING ALL THE RIGHT THINGS. AND IT IS IT IS A SIGNIFICANT POINT OF INTEREST IN THE COMMUNITY FOR SURE. I CONTINUE TO HEAR IT EVERY TIME I TURN AROUND. SO MOST, MOST OF THE SCOOTERS AND E-BIKES COME WITH SOME TYPE OF HORN OR BUZZER TO ALERT PEOPLE. HOWEVER, THERE ARE SOME THAT DON'T. OR SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE THOUGHT OF IS THAT AS PART OF THE REGISTRATION, WE MAY HAVE SOME AVAILABLE THAT IF YOU DON'T HAVE THAT ON YOUR YOUR SCOOTER OR YOUR BIKE, THAT WE PROVIDE THAT TO THEM. A LITTLE BELL. YEAH. WELL THEY GOT I THINK THE SCOOTERS ARE MOSTLY BELLS AND E-BIKES OR THE KIND OF A SOME SORT OF BUZZER. YEAH. YEAH. SO IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'D WANT TO HAVE THAT HAPPEN TO YOU. YEAH. APPRECIATE CHIEF I MEAN I'VE GOT LOTS OF THOUGHTS BECAUSE I'M ON THE PATHS A LOT. AND I'M AT THE SCHOOL A LOT. I MEAN, YOU GO UP TO FOOTBALL PRACTICE AT 7:00 IN THE MORNING, IN THE SUMMERTIME, AND IT LOOKS LIKE STURGIS OUT FRONT WITH ALL THE CLASS THREE E-BIKES OUT THERE. SO, YOU KNOW, I DO THINK THERE HAS TO BE A DELINEATION WITH THOSE BECAUSE, I MEAN, I THINK THEY'VE HACKED THESE THINGS AND THEY'RE GOING 40, 45 MILES AN HOUR, LIKE I'VE SEEN THEM OVERTAKE CARS IN NEIGHBORHOODS. YEAH. SO I DO THINK WE NEED TO TREAT THAT DIFFERENTLY. NOW. YOU SAID YOU HAVE TO BE 16 BY LAW. BUT IF A PARENT BUYS THEIR KID, THEIR 15 YEAR OLD OR 14 YEAR OLD, DO THEY NEED TO GO GET A LICENSE LIKE YOU WOULD TO OPERATE A MOTOR VEHICLE, OR CAN THEY JUST. NO, THEY DON'T NEED A LICENSE. HOWEVER, THE PARENT BUYING THAT THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE PARENT RESPONSIBILITY. SO IF YOU HAVE A LET'S SAY THERE'S A 14 YEAR OLD RIDING A CLASS THREE E-BIKE AND THEN SAY THERE WAS A CONFLICT OF CRASH OR SOME TYPE OF ACCIDENT. 
          THAT'S SOMETHING WE WOULD CERTAINLY LOOK AT. BUT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOT A THERE'S NOT A LICENSING REQUIREMENT. I THINK THAT WAS ALL STUFF WE DISCUSSED AS, AS THINGS THAT WE AS POSSIBLE THAT WE MIGHT TRY TO ROLL OUT. BUT, YOU KNOW, I THINK I THINK WE'RE TRYING TO AT THIS POINT TRYING TO STRIKE A NICE BALANCE AND, AND, YOU KNOW, AND SO I DO THINK THAT THE 
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DELINEATION BETWEEN THAT AND WHERE THOSE CLASS THREES CAN GO BECAUSE THE BIGGEST IT'S SO JARRING WITH THE SPEED IS THE DIFFERENCE. EVERYTHING THAT WHEN YOU PEDAL THE BIKE, IF YOU'RE FLAT OUT HAMMERING, YOU'RE GOING MAYBE 20 MILES AN HOUR ON A BIKE PATH. AND NOW THESE SCOOTERS AND EVERYTHING ARE GOING 25 AND YOU GOT WALKERS, DOGS IN SUCH CLOSE PROXIMITY, YOU KNOW, THE BIKE PATH THAT SLOAN AND I HAVE RIDDEN FROM HERE TO CINCINNATI HAS A SPEED LIMIT, AND I THINK IT'S IT MAY BE IT'S 15 MILES AN HOUR IN A LOT OF AREAS. IT'S 20 IN OTHERS. BUT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK IT'S UNREASONABLE TO HAVE A SPEED LIMIT, A BLANKET SPEED LIMIT. I DON'T YOU KNOW, I KNOW THE ISSUE WITH MARKING IT AND SIGNAGE COULD BE A PROBLEM, BUT I THINK A CITY WIDE 50 MILE AN HOUR SPEED LIMIT ON ALL LEISURE PATHS IS NOT UNREASONABLE. AT LEAST THAT, YOU KNOW, SETS THE EXPECTATION FOR THE KIDS THAT THEY CAN'T JUST RUN AS FAST AS THEY CAN WHEN THEY GET ON LEISURE PATH, YOU KNOW, WITH PETS AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S A SHARED PATH. SO THERE SHOULD BE SOME SORT OF LIMITATION ON HOW FAST YOU CAN GO. I'M IT HAS TO BE A SPEED LIMIT THAT PEOPLE ARE ACCUSTOMED TO SEEING AND THAT IT'S EASY TO DETECT. LIKE IF SOMEONE GOES PAST ME AT 20 MILES AN HOUR, LIKE I KNOW THAT'S 20 MILES AN HOUR. YEAH. WHERE, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S 14, I MIGHT KNOW, I DON'T KNOW. IS IT 12? IS IT 14? BUT, YOU KNOW, 20. ABSOLUTELY. NO. 
          YEAH. YEAH, YEAH I AGREE WITH THAT. I THINK WE'RE WE'RE LIKE YOU, WE'RE OPEN TO WHATEVER THE SPEED, WHATEVER IS DECIDED AS FAR AS THE SPEED LIMIT, WE DON'T ENTER THAT KIND OF DISCUSSION WITH ANY PRECONCEIVED NUMBER IN OUR HEAD. YEAH, I JUST THINK I MEAN, 20 IS PROBABLY TOO HIGH. I MEAN, YEAH, IF IT'S 15 IS THE LIMIT, I, I WILL KNOW VISUALLY WHEN SOMEONE'S GOING 20, I KNOW AS, AS BEING ON THE PATHS IS JUST A PEDESTRIAN THAT WHEN THEY GO BY YOU I MEAN NOT THEN THERE'S NO INTENT. YOU KNOW, THESE KIDS GOING BY OR OR OLDER TEENAGERS OR WHATEVER. I NEVER SAW ANYBODY HAVE ANY INTENT TO STARTLE ANYBODY, BUT IT IS STARTLING WHEN THEY GO BY YOU PRETTY QUICK, YOU JUST DON'T EXPECT IT. AND THEN AS FAR AS THE SIGNAGE GOES, INITIALLY WHAT WE THOUGHT IS THAT IF, IF THEY'RE IF THIS IS POSTED, YOU KNOW, TO KIND OF FIGURE OUT WHERE TO POST THAT CITYWIDE, MAYBE NEAR THE INTERSECTION WHERE THESE PATHS CROSS OVER ROADWAYS, MAYBE IT'S A NATURAL PLACE TO POST SOME OF THESE. AND AGAIN, IF THAT IS ADOPTED, THEN WE COULD CERTAINLY PUT THAT OUT TO THE COMMUNITY AND MAKE IT JUST ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT IF YOU'RE IF YOU LIVE HERE, YOU TYPICALLY KNOW THAT SPEED. YEAH. AND I'M A LITTLE RETICENT TO GO THE GEOFENCING ROUTE. AT LEAST I THINK WE RESERVED THAT. MAYBE IF WE DON'T GET ANY TRACTION WITH WHAT WE DO WITH IN THIS PHASE, OKAY. JUST BECAUSE IT IS A TRANSPORTATION FOR A LOT OF KIDS THAT COME TO SCHOOL, ESPECIALLY THE ONES YOU KNOW, THEY STILL DON'T HAVE BUSSING WITHIN THE CLOSER PROXIMITY. SO IF WE ELIMINATE ROADS, RUN WHERE THERE A LOT OF THEM ARE GOING TO BE COMING THROUGH, AND I JUST DON'T WANT TO GO DOWN THE ROAD OF IS THE BATTERY ON? IS THE BATTERY NOT ON? ARE YOU PEDALING? IS THAT I MEAN, IF WE HAVE A SPEED LIMIT THAT JUST KIND OF CHECKS ALL THOSE BOXES WHERE THEY'RE JUST GOING SLOWER. YEAH. AND WE DON'T HAVE TO REALLY GUESS HOW THAT'S BEING POWERED. OKAY. SO IN MY OPINION I THINK WE SAVE THAT AND THEN WE COULD, YOU KNOW, BLOCK IT OFF. BUT I MEAN A LOT OF THE ISSUES I HAVE ARE OUT ON THE LEISURE PATHS AROUND THE, YOU KNOW, GOLF COURSE AND LIKE AROUND THE COMMUNITY, IT'S CONCENTRATED IN CITY CENTER. 
          THERE'S A LOT OF FOLKS GOING, YOU KNOW, INAPPROPRIATE STUFF THERE TOO. BUT I THINK IF WE GO THE OTHER ROUTE AND TRY TO DO THE EDUCATION, SLOW THEM DOWN, GET HELMETS ON THEM AND DELINEATE WHERE THE CLASS THREES CAN AND CAN'T GO. I THINK THAT COULD GET US PRETTY CLOSE TO WHERE WE WANT TO BE. YEAH, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, AND OBVIOUSLY BE ON THE PATHS AND SOME OF THEM ARE NEAR THE ROAD, SOME AREN'T. AND THEY MOVE SO QUICKLY AND ACROSS PARKING LOTS AND, AND PRIVATE PROPERTY IT IS CHALLENGING FOR ENFORCEMENT. WE REALLY WANTED TO EMPHASIZE THE EDUCATION. AND MUCH LIKE THE BIKE HELMET AND TRY TO GAIN AS MUCH VOLUNTEER COMPLIANCE BY BY, YOU KNOW, THE OFFERING THE CARROT VERSUS VERSUS THE STICK. YEAH. BUT I DO HAVE TO SAY I THINK WE MIGHT NEED TO LOSE USE A LITTLE BIT MORE STICKS. YOU KNOW, I WAS DRIVING AT THE STEPHANOFF ROUNDABOUT THE OTHER DAY, AND THERE'S THESE COUPLE OF YOUNG KIDS SEEM LIKE PERFECTLY NICE, LOVELY YOUNG BOYS. THEY'RE PROBABLY ABOUT 12, 13 YEARS OLD ON PLAIN OLD REGULAR BIKES, AND THEY DON'T PRESS THE CROSSWALK THING AND THEY TAKE THEIR BIKES AND GO RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE TRAFFIC, AND EVERYBODY STOPS BECAUSE THEY DON'T SEE THEM COMING AND ALMOST HIT THEM. AND THEN THEY GO AND THEY DO IT THE OTHER WAY, TOO. AND I KIND OF CAME THROUGH THE TRAFFIC CIRCLE AND I THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, MY WINDOWS ARE OPEN. I SAID, HEY, GUYS, YOU REALLY SHOULD PRESS THE CROSSWALK. YOU'RE GOING TO GET YOURSELVES HURT. AND YOU COULD SEE THEY WERE LIKE, EMBARRASSED. AND THEY'RE REALLY NICE KIDS. AND THEN AS I CONTINUED TO DRIVE ON, I THOUGHT, WAIT A MINUTE, THEY'RE ALSO NOT WEARING HELMETS, RIGHT? SO WE HAVE SOME LAWS ON THE BOOK 
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THAT WE ARE NOT ENFORCING. AND I KNOW WE'VE TRIED TO DO THE ICE CREAM COUPON VERSION VERSUS, BUT I'M I'M STARTING TO THINK THERE HAS TO BE A FEW STICKS TOO, BECAUSE PARENTS ARE NOT TELLING THEIR KIDS YOU DON'T GET ON YOUR BIKE WITHOUT A HELMET, AND THEN THEY'RE NOT GOING TO DO IT WITH THE E-SCOOTER ANY DIFFERENTLY, OR THE E-BIKES OR, YOU KNOW, ANY OF THESE THINGS. AND I THINK THERE HAS TO BE A LITTLE BIT I THINK THERE HAS TO BE A MESSAGE OUT THERE. NOT THAT WE'RE OUT THERE HITTING EVERYBODY ALL DAY, EVERY DAY, BUT THERE HAS TO BE A MESSAGE OUT THERE THAT THERE'S A RISK THAT RANDOMLY YOU MIGHT GET CAUGHT, AND MAYBE THE FIRST TIME IS YOUR YOUR INFORMATION IS TAKEN, YOUR PARENTS ARE CALLED, THEY'RE MADE AWARE OF IT. BUT IF IT'S A SECOND TIME THEN YOU GET A CITATION. I DON'T KNOW. I WANT TO KNOW WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE THINKS, BUT I THINK PEOPLE ARE JUST AREN'T NECESSARILY PAYING ATTENTION TO OUR ORDINANCES. AND IF WE'RE GOING TO DO ALL THIS, WELL, THE ENFORCEMENT FOR THE BIKE, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE DO. WE WARN THEM. YOU DO. YEAH. SO WE AND THEN IT'S OBVIOUSLY RECORDED. SO IF THEY'RE STOPPED AGAIN WE HAVE THAT INFORMATION AND THAT AND OBVIOUSLY YOU KNOW WE'RE TRYING TO AND THAT'S NOT THAT'S NOT UNUSUAL FOR OTHER VIOLATIONS TOO. SO WE WARN THEM. AND IN REGARDS TO THE HELMET, YOU KNOW I, I AGREE THAT THE SPEEDS ARE SO MUCH GREATER WITH THE SCOOTERS AND THE, AND THE E-BIKES THAT IF IT MAKES SENSE FOR A REGULAR BICYCLE, A CYCLIST, THEN IT SEEMS TO MAKE MORE SENSE FOR THE I JUST PERSONALLY, I THINK I SEE SO MANY MORE KIDS OUT THERE WITHOUT HELMETS THAN I DO WITH. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S EVERYBODY ELSE'S EXPERIENCE, BUT THAT'S WHAT I'M PERSONALLY EXPERIENCING IN THE CITY. THAT HAPPENED TO ME DRIVING HERE TO THIS MEETING, THAT EXACT SAME, THAT EXACT SAME THING. THREE BOYS COMING UP AND SHOT THROUGH THE CROSSWALK WITHOUT HITTING IT. LUCKILY IT WAS IN FRONT OF ME, SO I WAS WATCHING THEM AND THEY JUST SHOT RIGHT ACROSS AND KEPT GOING. SO WHEN I SAW YOU PUT UP THERE LOOKING AT THE VILLAGE CENTER, YEAH, I DO THINK THAT WE REALLY NEED TO LOOK AT MAYBE BEING A LITTLE BIT MORE RESTRICTIVE, ESPECIALLY IN THE VILLAGE CENTER, BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE NUCLEUS OF THE PEOPLE ARE THAT ARE WALKING AROUND. AND FORTUNATELY THEY GOT THEY WENT THROUGH AND THEN THEY JUST KEPT GOING. AND I DIDN'T SEE IF THEY WENT, YOU KNOW, BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS OR JUST KEPT GOING DOWN THE SIDEWALK TOWARDS STARBUCKS. BUT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE NO ELECTRIC IN THE VILLAGE CENTER. PEDALING MIGHT BE AN ANSWER ON TOP OF HELMETS AND OTHER THINGS THAT MARLENE WAS SAYING, THAT I DO THINK WE NEED TO TREAT THE VILLAGE CENTER A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY. WELL, CAN I MAKE ONE OTHER POINT ON THIS TOO? I THINK THAT I ASKED JOE IF WE COULD LOOK INTO THIS. I WANT TO KNOW WHAT YOU GUYS THINK ABOUT THIS. I HAD A COUPLE OF THOUGHTS ON ALL OF THIS. IF WE'RE ALREADY DOING THIS, I FEEL LIKE WE OUGHT TO BE A LITTLE MORE HOLISTIC. I THINK THERE'S A LOT THERE, BUT A COUPLE MORE THINGS WOULDN'T BE THAT MUCH. NUMBER ONE, I THINK WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THE GOLF CARTS ON THE TRAILS AS WELL. I DON'T LIKE PEOPLE RIDING GOLF CARTS, ON THE BIKE PATHS, ON THE WALKING TRAILS, AND I THINK WE NEED TO CONSIDER NOT ALLOWING THAT. AND MAYBE WE ADD THAT TO THE ROADS, FOR THAT MATTER. AND THE OTHER ONE AND THE OTHER ONE IS I WAS VERY CURIOUS. I WANTED US TO CHECK THIS OUT AND SEE IF OTHER MUNICIPALITIES, ANYBODY DID ANYTHING LIKE THIS. HE, JOE, TOLD YOU ABOUT, CAN THERE BE AN ORDINANCE THAT REQUIRES YOU TO PUSH THAT DAMN BUTTON BEFORE YOU GO THROUGH THE CROSSWALK, THAT YOU COULD GET A TICKET IF YOU WALK INTO THE CROSSWALK WITHOUT PUSHING THAT BUTTON FIRST? AND HOW WOULD YOU GUYS FEEL ABOUT THAT? NOBODY'S PUSHING THAT BUTTON. YEAH, AND WE HAVE ALL THIS TECHNOLOGY AND THESE BIG BRIGHT YELLOW LIGHTS, AND PEOPLE ARE WALKING OUT IN FRONT OF ME ALL THE TIME, AND THEY HAVEN'T PUSHED THE BUTTON. YEAH. AND TALKING TO THE OTHER JURISDICTIONS, THE RESPONSE WAS PRETTY UNIFORM. OH, WE GET A LOT OF COMPLAINTS ON THAT TOO. WHEN YOU GUYS COME UP WITH SOMETHING COULD YOU SAY. YES. AND SO I, WE WHAT WE FOUND IS NOBODY HAS THE, THE, THE MAGIC SAUCE TO, TO MAKE SURE THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN. BUT I GUESS AS FAR AS THE WE'D HAVE TO LOOK INTO THE REQUIREMENT TO PUSH THE BUTTON OR NOT, IT CERTAINLY IS JUST SOMETHING FOR US TO TALK ELECTRIC. I JUST SO THE SENSORS JUST ENOUGH THAT IF SOMEBODY PASSES IN FRONT OF IT, THOSE LIGHTS GO ON. I THINK THOSE LIGHTS ARE GOING TO GO OFF ALL DAY LONG AND CORRECTLY. YEAH. MIKE, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? YEAH. I THINK THAT WHEN IT COMES TO THE HELMETS, WE'VE HAD A REGULATION IN PLACE AND I KNOW WE'VE HAD THE ICE CREAM CONES AND BEING NICE AND POLITE ABOUT IT. NOW WITH ALL THE SCOOTERS AND E-BIKES, I THINK TO MARLENE'S POINT, I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE MAYBE A LITTLE BIT STRICTER ENFORCEMENT THAT LISTEN, WE'RE SERIOUS ABOUT THIS. WHEN YOU'RE GOING TO SPEAK. IT'S ONE THING RIDING A BICYCLE. IT'S ANOTHER THING WITH AN E-BIKE. AND THESE SCOOTERS DOING 25 MILES AN HOUR OR WORSE FASTER THAN THAT, THAT THE RISK IS THERE. AND I THINK WORD GETS AROUND THAT KIDS ARE GETTING 
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STOPPED AND THEY BETTER HAVE HELMETS ON. THE WORD WILL GET AROUND SCHOOL AND PARENTS IN THAT, IN THAT I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE WITHIN THE REGULATIONS, A LITTLE STRICTER ENFORCEMENT OF THAT. AND AS FAR AS GOLF CARTS GO, THOSE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE STREET LEGAL. 
          THEY SHOULD BE DRIVING ON THE STREET, NOT ON A NOT ON A WALKING PATH OR SHARED PATH FOR ANY REASON. THEY GOT ONE TO DRIVE SO THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO DRIVE THEIR CAR, PUT IT ON THE STREET WHERE IT BELONGS. I THINK THAT WOULD BE MY FEELING, THE WAY THE ORDINANCE IS WRITTEN, THAT'S ALL VERY POSSIBLE. IT'S JUST MORE OF A REQUIREMENT TO POST IT. YEAH. CHIEF. WHAT IS WHAT'S THE DELINEATION OF WHAT'S A BIKE AND WHAT'S A MOTORCYCLE? DO YOU HAVE AN E-BIKE THAT'S AT THAT SPEED GOES TO THOSE HIGHER SPEEDS PEDALS OR NO PEDALS. YEAH. SO THEN IF IT'S A NO PEDALS, IT'S AN E-BIKE. WHO'S ALLOWED ON THE STREET WITH THOSE? SHOULDN'T THEY NOT BE LICENSED LIKE A MOTORCYCLE? WELL, MOST OF THE THAT'S KIND OF A I THINK IT'S A LITTLE BIT GRAY. SO THERE ARE MOTORCYCLES. YEAH. AND SO BUT IF IT DOESN'T HAVE PEDALS I'M NOT SURE WHERE THE, THE SPEED THRESHOLD IS BETWEEN AN E-BIKE AND IF IT, IF IT HAS TO GO 75, 80 MILES AN HOUR. YEAH. YEAH. AND SO BUT I THINK THE PEDALS IS THE, IS THE DELINEATION. I WOULD THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE 16 OR YOUNGER YOU SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED ON THE STREET WITH AN ELECTRIC E-BIKE, ONE OF ONE OF THE IF YOU'RE 16 OR OLDER, YOU SHOULD BE LICENSED AS A MOTORCYCLE. SOME OF THE E-BIKES, IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE ON THE STREET. YEAH BECAUSE OF THE SPEEDS AND THEIR THEIR CREATIVE. ONE OF THE THIS WAS UP IN THE LAKES. ONE OF THE YOUNG MEN THAT WE STOPPED THE BIKE THE PEDALS WERE THERE BUT THEY WEREN'T FUNCTIONAL. SO IT LOOKED LIKE IT IT FELL UNDER AN E-BIKE BUT HAD NONFUNCTIONING PEDALS THAT, THAT, THAT, THAT WERE PUT ON IT LOOKS LIKE FROM THE MANUFACTURER. SO IT'S, IT'S TRICKY. AND SO THAT'S ALSO THE DISCUSSION IS TO IS THAT IS THAT FROM AN ENFORCEMENT THIS IS MORE NOT THE HELMETS AND THE CROSSWALKS BUT IS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S A TYPE THREE. YOU KNOW, WHAT'S A TYPE TWO. AND SOMETIMES IT'S LIKE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT ONCE THOSE ARE HACKED OR MODIFIED, THEY REALLY KIND OF JUMP INTO A DIFFERENT CLASS. OH DO WE HAVE TO FOLLOW STATE CODE ON THAT IN TERMS OF HOW THOSE ARE TREATED? LIKE IF YOU'RE 16 YEARS OLD AND YOU'RE ON AN ELECTRIC BIKE, THAT'S AN E-BIKE, WELL, THEN YOU'RE ON THE STREET, YOU NEED A HELMET AND A LICENSE. I THINK BEN CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT I THINK WE CAN. WE CAN BE MORE STRICT THAN OHIO REVISED CODE. WE CAN'T LOOSEN IT UP. SO I THINK WE CAN BE STRICTER THAN THE REVISED CODE, IF THAT'S IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN. 
          SO JUST A COUPLE OF POINTS. I HAVE SEVERAL. SO I'VE BEEN TAKING NOTES HERE. FIRST OFF, THE GOLF CARTS IN MY OBSERVATION, THE FOLKS THAT ARE DRIVING ON THE PATHS ARE YOUNGER MOTORISTS THAT PROBABLY AREN'T DRIVING A LICENSED. YEAH, YOU KNOW, GOLF CART. SO I THINK PROHIBITING ANY GOLF CART ACTIVITY ON THE PATHS IS PROBABLY A GOOD STEP. AND THAT MEANS THAT IF YOU'RE DRIVING THE GOLF CART ON THE STREET, IT HAS TO BE INSPECTED BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, HAVE ALL THE APPROPRIATE LIGHTS, SEAT BELTS AND AGE APPROPRIATE DRIVER. SO 100% WITH MARLENE ON THE GOLF CARTS. AS FAR AS THE CROSSWALKS, I ALWAYS I FEEL LIKE THE FOCUS OF ATTENTION FROM THE PEOPLE I TALK TO IS ALWAYS AROUND THE STEPHANOFF CIRCLE. AND SO WE MAY AGAIN, AS WE HAD THAT CONSIDERATION ABOUT DOING SOME TRAFFIC AND SOME PEDESTRIAN INVOLVED IMPROVEMENTS ALONG THAT CORRIDOR, MAYBE WE REVISIT THE OPTION OF CLOSING THE INNER CIRCLE OF STEPHANOFF CIRCLE AND PUSHING THOSE PEDESTRIANS FURTHER DOWN. THERE'S CROSSWALKS AT EACH SIDE. IF YOU JUST GO A LITTLE BIT FURTHER DOWN THE ROADWAY, AND THAT GIVES MOTORISTS A MUCH BETTER VIEW CORRIDOR OF PEOPLE CROSSING THE ROAD. SO THAT SHOULD WE SHOULD GIVE SOME THOUGHT TO THAT. I MEAN, CERTAINLY WE WANT TO HAVE A WALKABLE COMMUNITY, BUT WE ALSO WANT IT TO BE SAFE. THE GEO FENCING, I THINK, IS ONLY FOR COMPANIES THAT ARE PROVIDING SCOOTERS BECAUSE THEY CAN ELECTRONICALLY DO THAT. IF THESE ARE JUST, YOU KNOW, A VARIETY OF MANUFACTURERS THAT ARE PURCHASED BY PARENTS, I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT WE HAVE THAT TECHNOLOGY. IF WE DO, LET ME KNOW. THAT'D BE GREAT. I GOT SOME NEIGHBORS I WANT TO GEOFENCE. THE CLASS THREE VEHICLES. I 100% AGREE WITH MIKE THAT WE SHOULD GO THROUGH A REGISTRATION PROCESS. 
          I KNOW SOME OTHER JURISDICTIONS IN THAT PROCESS ALSO REQUIRE PROOF OF INSURANCE, BECAUSE IT IS A VEHICLE THAT'S GOING TO BE DRIVEN ON THE ROADS. YOU HAVE TO HAVE INSURANCE. AND AGAIN, IF THERE'S AN ACCIDENT AND THESE FOLKS ARE BEHAVING IN NEGLIGENT MANNER, THE OPERATOR AND PERHAPS THE PARENT COULD BE HELD LIABLE. IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THERE BE INSURANCE. SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD WE SHOULD CONSIDER. AND THEN FOR ME, THE HARDEST PART IN ALL OF THESE CONVERSATIONS, AND EVERY TIME I TALK TO A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC AND WE WALK THROUGH THIS, YOU KNOW, THE EFFORTS THE CITY IS MAKING AT SOME POINT, THE CONVERSATION WE'RE ALWAYS GOING 
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TO GET TO THE ENFORCEMENT POSTURE, AND IT'S EXTREMELY DIFFICULT. AND I'VE HAD MULTIPLE CONVERSATIONS WITH MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY, AND WE GET 2 OR 3 STEPS INTO THE ENFORCEMENT PROCESS, AND THEY REALIZE IT'S PROBLEMATIC. YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO WITH A YOUNG PERSON THAT IS, YOU KNOW, DECIDES TO FLEE AN OFFICER WHO IS, YOU KNOW, GIVING THEM A LAWFUL ORDER TO STOP, YOU KNOW, HOW FAR DOES THAT PROCEED? YEAH. YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT TO CREATE A POSTURE AGAIN WHERE THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THESE VEHICLES CAN MOVE QUICKLY, THEY CAN GO OFF TERRAIN. IT CAN BE BECOME A DANGEROUS SITUATION FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE. SO AGAIN, ENFORCEMENT POSTURE IS GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT WE'LL HAVE TO HAVE A LONG CONVERSATION ABOUT. 
          BUT I, I DON'T DISAGREE THAT WE PROBABLY HAVE TO TAKE A STRONGER STANCE ON ENFORCEMENT. AND DOING IT SAFELY OBVIOUSLY IS GOING TO BE IMPORTANT. AND THE END OF THE DAY, I MEAN, THIS IS A THIS IS A COMMUNITY EFFORT. I THINK ALL OF US HAVE EXPERIENCED THIS IN OUR TIME ON COUNCIL. WE CAN PASS RULES AND REGULATIONS AND NEW ORDINANCES, BUT THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO TO CURB BAD HUMAN BEHAVIOR. WE CAN TRY REALLY HARD, BUT THIS IS GOING TO TAKE AN EFFORT OF THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY. SO IF PARENTS ARE MAKING THE DECISION TO PURCHASE THESE VEHICLES FOR THEIR CHILDREN, THAT THEY SHOULD ALSO THAT THAT, YOU KNOW, OPPORTUNITY COMES WITH SOME RESPONSIBILITY. 
          AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE FAMILIES ARE HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS. SO I REALLY AM GLAD TO HEAR THAT. THE FIRST STEP WE'RE GOING TO DO IS SORT OF AN EDUCATIONAL CAMPAIGN, AND HOPEFULLY THE COMMUNITY WILL REACT APPROPRIATELY AND TAKE RESPONSIBILITY IF THEY'RE GOING TO, YOU KNOW, TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS NEW TRANSPORTATION OPPORTUNITY. I DIDN'T CONSIDER THE INSURANCE PART OF IT. THAT'S A VERY GOOD POINT. SO CAN I WANT TO BRING UP ONE MORE TIME. NO HARD FEELINGS. I PROMISE I WON'T TAKE IT PERSONALLY, BUT I LIKED MY IDEA, SO I JUST I'M CURIOUS OF FEEDBACK. I MEAN, WOULD IT BE SO BAD IF THE ORDINANCE SAID THAT YOU ARE REQUIRED TO PUSH THE BUTTON BEFORE YOU WALK THROUGH THE CROSSWALK, AND IF NOT, THERE'S A POTENTIAL FOR YOU TO BE CITED. GET A TRAFFIC TICKET. BASICALLY LIKE LIKE JAYWALKING. KIND OF A TICKET. 
          DOESN'T MEAN WE'LL ENFORCE IT, BUT IT CERTAINLY SENDS A MESSAGE. AND IF, GOD FORBID, SOMEBODY GETS HURT BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T, IT GIVES US A LITTLE HAS BEEN PROTECTION. YEAH. THAT'S THAT'S A THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. YEAH. SO I CAN CERTAINLY PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER AS YOU'RE TALKING. I DID A QUICK SEARCH. AND THERE IS A SIMILAR PROVISION IN THE REVISED CODE THAT WE CAN, I THINK TAILOR AND THEN JUST PUT IT TOGETHER AND SEND IT TO YOU, OFFER YOUR COMMENT AND DISCUSSION AND THOUGHTS ON IT. OKAY. SO BUT I THINK WE CAN CERTAINLY PUT SOME PARAMETERS THAT THEY HAVE TO ADHERE TO THE TRAFFIC OPERATION SIGNALS BEFORE CROSSING THE STREET, STAYING WITHIN THE MARKED AREAS AND STEPPING OFF CIRCLE MAKES GOOD SENSE. WHAT I WAS SAYING TO PUSH IT DOWN A LITTLE FURTHER SO THEY CAN'T CROSS RIGHT AT THE NOW THAT ONE. I'M NOT SURE I FEEL GOOD ABOUT BECAUSE DIDN'T WE DIDN'T WE LEARN THAT THE TRAFFIC ENGINEERS ALL TOLD US THAT THE REASON YOU WANT IT RIGHT THERE IS BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN PEOPLE ARE GOING THE SLOWEST AND THEY'RE GOING TO NOTICE, AND THEY COME OUT OF THE TRAFFIC CIRCLE AND START TO SPEED UP, AND THEY'RE GOING TO GET RIGHT TO WHERE THESE PEOPLE ARE. I REMEMBER US HAVING THAT DISCUSSION THE FIRST TIME BECAUSE EVERYBODY WAS LIKE, WHY ARE YOU PUTTING THESE RIGHT HERE? AND THAT'S WHAT ALL THE EXPERTS TOLD US TO DO. SO I'M NOT SURE, JENNIFER. I JUST KNOW THE VISUAL DISTRACTION AROUND THE CIRCLE IS DRAMATICALLY HIGHER. YEAH, I UNDERSTAND, BUT AND WHEN YOU DO HAVE TO STOP FOR PEDESTRIAN, YOU JUST PRAY TO GOD YOU DON'T GET. RIGHT. YEAH. 
          YEAH, I THINK WE CAN. WE CAN. YOU ARE CORRECT. THAT IS WHAT THE RECOMMENDATION WAS WHEN WE STUDIED IT PREVIOUSLY. BUT THINGS CHANGE. RECOMMENDATIONS CHANGE THE WAY THEY STUDY THESE THINGS, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY AS ROUNDABOUTS GET BUILT MORE AND MORE OFTEN IN COMMUNITIES ALL OVER CENTRAL OHIO NOW IN PARTICULAR, BUT NOW ALL OVER THE UNITED STATES. SO WE CAN CERTAINLY WORK TOGETHER WITH PUBLIC SERVICE AND EVALUATE THAT. AGAIN, NEVER HURTS TO DO AN EVALUATION EVERY COUPLE OF YEARS TO MAKE SURE THE DATA IS RELEVANT. A LOT OF PEOPLE GOING THROUGH THOSE TRAFFIC CIRCLES JUST, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT PAYING ATTENTION. THE DRIVERS, LET ALONE THERE'S A LOT TO FOCUS ON. AND THEN YOU HAVE SOME PEDESTRIAN COMING BEHIND A POLE AND WALKING OUT IN FRONT OF TRAFFIC. IT'S JUST A DANGEROUS SCENARIO. I MEAN, ESTHETICALLY AND AS FAR AS WALKABILITY, ABSOLUTELY. I MEAN, THE WAY IT IS RIGHT NOW IS, IS THE BEST STATE AS LONG AS EVERYONE BEHAVES APPROPRIATELY. YEAH. I, I IN MANY RESPECTS LIKE THE IDEA OF PUSHING IT BACK, BUT I THINK THAT WHETHER IT'S THERE OR IF IT'S IN FRONT OF STARBUCKS OR WHATEVER, THERE'S PEOPLE WHO I SEE EVERY DAY DON'T PUSH THE BUTTONS, THEY JUST WALK OUT INTO TRAFFIC. HOPE SOMEBODY IS GOING TO STOP. YEAH. YOU KNOW, I THINK REQUIRING IT OR AT LEAST PUTTING SIGNAGE THERE, YOU NEED TO PUSH THE BUTTON. WE DON'T WANT ANOTHER INCIDENT DOWNTOWN LIKE WE HAD BEFORE WHERE SOMEBODY WAS A LITTLE AFFECTED BY THAT. BUT. WELL, I THINK THAT AND ALL TOO OFTEN IT'S MORE THAN LIKELY MORE OFTEN NOT TO CHARACTERIZE, BUT KIDS WHO JUST DON'T PAY 
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ATTENTION TO IT QUICKLY. I SEE THEM DOING IT IN FRONT OF THE STARBUCKS. I SEE IT ON THE CIRCLES. THEY'RE JUST NOT DISCIPLINED TO KNOW THEY GOT TO PUSH THE BUTTON. AND I PUSHED THE BUTTON AND HAD CARS RUN RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME. OH YEAH. SO I MEAN, THAT'S THE OTHER AND EVEN MORE PREVALENT AROUND THE CIRCLE BECAUSE IT IS MORE CONGESTED, LIKE YOU SAID, MUCH MORE CONGESTED. IT'S HARD TO DO MORE THAN WHAT WE'RE ALREADY DOING TO MAKE THOSE AREAS SAFE. 
          AND WE'VE GOT SPEED SIGNS, WE'VE GOT LIGHTED CROSSES. WE HAVE TO PUSH A BUTTON. IT'S KIND OF ALMOST HOW FAR DO WE GO? THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT AS WE'RE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION. 
          I MEAN, WE PUT EXTRA SIGNAGE UP. WE'VE GOT THE SPEED THINGS, WE MOVED THEM, WE TRIMMED THE TREES, WE'VE GOT THE EXTRA LIGHTS, WE HAVE THE NEW FLASHING LIGHTS. CROSSWALKS ARE THERE. 
          WE'VE GOT THEM EVERYWHERE. IT'S JUST HOW FAR DO WE CONTINUE TO GO WITH IT? I'M NOT SAYING NO. I JUST KNOW I GOTTA PROCESS IT A LITTLE BIT. BUT TO ME THAT'S WHERE YOU GO IS YOU HAVE PEOPLE KNOW THAT THERE'S A RISK OF CROSSWALKS GETTING A TICKET FOR NOT DOING IT. THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE'RE GOING TO STAND THERE IN EVERY SINGLE PERSON ALWAYS, OR WE'RE GOING TO GO CHASE PEOPLE DOWN. BUT, YOU KNOW, WITH THE CRUISER, IT JUST MEANS THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT RANDOMLY THERE MIGHT BE A RISK IF THE POLICE CAR HAPPENS TO BE SITTING THERE AND YOU DON'T BOTHER TO PUSH THAT BUTTON AND WALK ACROSS, YOU MIGHT BE TELLING ALL YOUR FRIENDS ABOUT HOW THE DAMNEDEST THING HAPPENED TO YOU TODAY. YOU KNOW? SO YEAH. AND I JUST THINK A FEW OF THOSE COULDN'T HURT DURING, YOU KNOW, AFTER SCHOOL HOURS. MAYBE YOU HAVE A POLICE OFFICER OUT THERE JUST REMINDING KIDS, WHETHER IT'S AT THE STARBUCKS CROSSWALK OR AT ROUNDABOUTS ISSUE. THAT'S A. 
          PEOPLE ISSUE. ADULTS AS MUCH. YEAH, KIDS DEFINITELY BLOW THROUGH IT ON BIKES. BUT I MEAN A LOT OF ADULT PEDESTRIANS BOTH DON'T KNOW THE BUTTONS AS WELL. BACK IN THE OLD SCHOOL 50S, WHEN THE COPS WOULD BE OUT THERE WALKING AROUND THEIR LITTLE PADS. YEAH, I THINK THE SLOAN'S POINT WE CAN'T CONTROL BAD BEHAVIOR, WHETHER IT'S ADULTS OR CHILDREN. PEOPLE JUST DON'T ALWAYS USE COMMON SENSE. I THINK HAVING POLICE OFFICERS PRESENT DURING TIMES, ESPECIALLY AFTER SCHOOL WHEN THERE'S A LOT OF KIDS CROSSING ALL THESE DIFFERENT AREAS JUST TO BE THERE TO REMIND THEM ON FOOT, I THINK CAR. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I WAS. ONE OF MY TAKEAWAYS IS THAT IT'S BEEN MENTIONED A COUPLE TIMES ABOUT THE VILLAGE CENTER BEING KIND OF A HOT SPOT FOR SOME OF THIS, BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY PEOPLE WALKING AROUND. I THINK WE CAN I THINK WE CAN STEP UP ENFORCEMENT, WHETHER IT BE BIKE HELMET OR JAYWALKING OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE, WE'D PROBABLY TAKE MORE OF A DOING IT ON WITH BIKE OFFICERS. IT'S JUST EASIER TO SIT ON THE SIDEWALK AS OPPOSED TO TRYING TO FIND A PLACE TO COMMUNITY POLICING TYPE WHERE YOU'RE OUT ON THE STREET, ON YOUR FEET OR ON A BIKE AND YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, SEVERAL HOURS A DAY OR WHATEVER, JUST REMINDING PEOPLE. YEAH, CHECKING WITH PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY AFTER SCHOOL. WELL, CHIP'S GOT THESE, LIKE, FANCY, YOU KNOW, NEW ALBANY. I CAN GO OUT. YOU CAN JUST LIKE A CROSSING GUARD. 
          YEAH. I JUST NEED A BADGE, THAT'S ALL. OH, NEVER MIND, NEVER MIND. WE EVEN HAVE A CROSSING GUARD IN THE AUDIENCE TONIGHT. I NEED TO BE DEPUTIZED. THAT'S IT. BUT SPEAKING OF MR. WILSON, DOES THE SCHOOL HAVE ANY NEW REGULATIONS FOR THE UPCOMING SCHOOL YEAR THAT YOU'RE ROLLING OUT FOR E-BIKES OR ANYTHING ON CAMPUS? I KNOW THERE'S VIDEOS FLOATING AROUND OF THEM TEARING AROUND ON THE FOOTBALL FIELD, AND I DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT HAD ARISEN WHERE YOU GUYS WERE BANNING THEM OR ANY REGULATION FOR THE COMING SCHOOL YEAR OR NOT. NOT THAT I KNOW OF, BUT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR IS A GREAT TIME TO HAVE CONTACT WITH PARENTS. SO WE HAVE A NUMBER OF EVENTS AT CAMPUS THAT A LOT OF PARENTS WILL BE AT, INCLUDING EARLY SEASON FOOTBALL GAMES WHERE THE STANDS ARE QUITE FULL. IT'S A GOOD CHANCE TO GET A MESSAGE OUT. SURE, THE ATHLETIC DEPARTMENT COULD WORK ON A PA ANNOUNCEMENT AND YEAH, SOMETHING ON THE VIDEO SCREEN. SO YEAH, I THINK THE CITY SCHOOL PARTNERSHIP IN THIS AND THE COMMUNICATION IS GOING TO BE CRUCIAL BECAUSE THAT'S THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE KIDS THAT ARE RUNNING AROUND ON THE SCOOTERS. 
          I THINK THAT WHEN WE TALK TO SCHOOLS, I THINK THE MAYOR MIGHT HAVE MENTIONED SO MANY OF THE KIDS ARE USING THAT AS TRANSPORTATION TO GET TO THE SCHOOLS AND GET HOME. SO I THINK THAT THAT THERE WASN'T REALLY AN APPETITE FOR BANNING THEM FROM THE CAMPUS. IT WAS MORE OF MAYBE THE REGISTRATION PROCESS THAT IF YOU'RE GOING TO BRING ONE, THE SCHOOL HAS TO BE REGISTERED. BUT THE MAIN IDEA BEHIND THAT IS THAT FOR IT TO BE REGISTERED, YOU HAVE TO COMPLETE, SUCCESSFULLY COMPLETE THIS COURSE. AND SO BUT I THINK THAT IF YOU GO BY THE BIKE RACKS AT THE SCHOOLS, THERE'S TENDS TO BE MORE SCOOTERS AND E-BIKES THAN THERE ARE REGULAR BICYCLES. SO AGAIN, I THINK IT'S BECAUSE IT'S SUCH A NEED OF TRANSPORTATION. I THINK THAT THAT THAT WE KIND OF WANTED TO STAY AWAY FROM THAT BAN. THAT PRETTY GOOD. ALL RIGHT. I THINK WE'VE GIVEN A 
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PLENTY OF HOMEWORK. YEAH. TO THE CHIEF AND OUR CITY ATTORNEY. YEAH. WE APPRECIATE THE FEEDBACK. YOU GAVE US A LOT TO WORK WITH. AND I THINK EVEN BEYOND THE ORDINANCES, I THINK THE THERE'S OTHER STEPS, WHETHER IT BE ENFORCEMENT OR OTHERWISE, THAT WE CAN WE CAN START RIGHT AWAY AS WELL. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. WELL, WE'RE STILL UNDER HEARING OF VISITORS. IS THERE A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS COUNCIL REGARDING A MATTER THAT IS NOT 
          [7. BOARD/COMMISSION REPORTS]
ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA? RIGHT. BOARD AND COMMISSION REPORTS ANY UPDATE FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION? MISS WORLD IS NOT HERE TONIGHT. YES WE DID. HAVE WE MET EARLIER IN JULY? THERE WAS A CASE FOR REPLAT OF THE SUBDIVISION, WHICH WAS APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY, UNANIMOUSLY BY THE BOARD. AND THAT WILL BE IN FRONT OF COUNSEL NEXT COUNCIL MEETING. AND THEN THERE WAS A VARIANCE TO ELIMINATE THE POOL FENCING REQUIREMENTS FOR A PROPERTY AND ELY CROSSING. AND THAT VARIANCE WAS DENIED. AND THEN WE DID HAVE PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEW THE PROPOSED CODE CHANGES TO 1144 OFFICE DISTRICT TO ALLOW INDOOR AND OUTDOOR PUBLIC FACILITIES TO BE DEVELOPED IN THAT ZONING DISTRICT. AND THEY DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO COUNCIL THOSE CHANGES. THAT'S EVERYTHING THAT WAS DISCUSSED. ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS ON THE UPDATE? PARKS AND TRAILS. NO MEETING OR NO? NO MEETING. WE HAD A MEETING. TWO CASES ON THE AGENDA. THE FIRST ONE WAS A VARIANCE FOR A SIGN FOR AMGEN. THEY WERE LOOKING TO ALLOW THE SIZE OF THE SIGN TO BE 522.5FT■!S, WHERE CODE PERMITS A MAXIMUM OF 200FT■!S. THIS, I BELIEVE, WAS INTRODUCED IN A PREVIOUS MEETING THAT THEY TABLED, ASKED THE APPLICANT TO WORK WITH STAFF AND COME BACK TO STAFF. THEY DID. THEY CAME BACK WITH THREE OPTIONS, AND THE OPTION THAT THE BOARD APPROVED WAS A 283 FOOT SQUARE WITH SQUARE FEET SIGN, WHICH COMPRISED OF 1.20% OF THE OF THE BUILDING FACADE. AND THAT WAS ACTUALLY LESS THAN THE SIGN VARIANCE THAT WAS GRANTED PREVIOUS TO THAT. SO THERE WAS NO PRECEDENT SET WITH THAT. AND IT LOOKED LIKE TO BE A GOOD COMPROMISE FOR THE SIGNAGE ON THE SIGN. AND THEN THE SECOND ONE THAT THEY HAD WAS ANY QUESTIONS WITH THAT SECOND VARIANCE THEY HAD WAS A VARIANCE TO ALLOW A DECK TO ENCROACH INTO A PLATTED EASEMENT LOCATED ON KINDLER DRIVE IN THE LINKS. ANYONE THAT'S EVER BEEN ON BZA AT ANY CAPACITY KNOWS THAT YOU'RE ALWAYS GUARANTEED A LINK'S VARIANCE REQUEST FOR ANY TYPE OF PATIO. THIS ONE, THOUGH, HOWEVER, WAS A LITTLE DIFFERENT. THE HOMEOWNERS WERE NEW, AND THEY ACTUALLY ALREADY HAD A, I GUESS, A PATIO THAT WAS 17FT ENCROACHED INTO THE EASEMENT AND THEY WANTED TO COME BACK AND REDO IT, AND THEY WANTED TO DO IT THE RIGHT WAY. THEY WERE NEW HOMEOWNERS. THEY MET WITH STAFF AND THEN PRESENTED TO THE BOARD AN IDEA HERE WHICH WOULD ONLY ENCROACH TEN FEET INTO THE INTO THE EASEMENT. THERE IS A BUNCH OF THINGS FOR. CONDITIONS THAT THEY APPLIED TO IT. ONE NO LANDSCAPING SHALL BE INSTALLED IN THE EASEMENT. TWO WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS QUITE A BIT, AND THE HOMEOWNERS WERE PERFECTLY FINE WITH ENTERING INTO A HOLD HARMLESS AGREEMENT WHICH FOR ANY REASON, ANY WORK NEEDS TO BE DONE OUT THERE. IT'S NOT ON THE CITY, IT'S GOING TO BE ON THE HOMEOWNER. AND THAT HAS TO BE INCLUDED INTO THE DEED. NO VERTICAL ADDITIONS CAN BE ADDED TO THE AREA, THE PATIO WITHIN THE EASEMENT. AND THEN THEY HAD AN ENGINEERING CONDITION, NO STRUCTURE ON THE STORM WATER LINE. AND SO WITH ALL OF THAT, THEY WERE FINE WITH IT. IT'S JUST A MATTER OF MEETING WITH THE FOLKS THAT ARE GOING TO BE BUILDING IT AND COMING UP WITH A DESIGN THAT MEETS ALL THOSE, BUT I THINK THE APPLICANT THOUGHT THAT THAT WAS FAIR. STAFF, OF COURSE, HAD GREAT RECOMMENDATIONS, DID A LOT OF WORK ON IT. THE BOARD CAME TO THAT CONCLUSION FOR THEM. AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I SAID TO THE HOMEOWNERS. THEY'RE NOT THE FIRST FOLKS FROM THE LINKS TO COME AND FIND OUT THAT MOST OF THEIR BACKYARD IS IN AN EASEMENT, AND THAT WE LIKE TO WORK WITH THEM. AND THAT SEEMED TO BE A WAY TO DO IT. SO AND THAT WAS THE TWO CASES. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ANYTHING FROM THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD? NO MEETING IDEA IMPLEMENTATION PANEL. SO NO MEETING. BUT I WANT TO CATCH YOU 
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ALL UP ON THE SEPTEMBER 11TH PROJECT. THERE'S BEEN SOME REALLY, REALLY EXCITING NEW UPDATES. NUMBER ONE, THE LINK IS NOW OPEN. IF YOU WANT TO GET TICKETS, TICKETS ARE FREE. 
          PLEASE MAKE SURE PEOPLE KNOW THAT YOU CAN GET A MAXIMUM OF SIX TICKETS PER LOGIN. IT IS GENERAL ADMISSION THAT'S NUMBER ONE. SO PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE SPREAD THE WORD. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE US SELL THE MCCOY OUT. THAT'S FOR WHAT? I'M SORRY. TICKET FOR THE A TRAIN NEAR MAGDEBURG. THE DOCUMENTARY PANEL ON SEPTEMBER 11TH. YES. THURSDAY NIGHT, SEPTEMBER 11TH AT THE MCCOY. SO A COUPLE OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED IS, NUMBER ONE, WE NOW HAVE AT LEAST TWO AND POSSIBLY FOUR SURVIVORS OF THE TRAIN COMING TO OUR EVENT. AWESOME. GOD BLESS THEM. THEY'RE CLOSE TO 100 YEARS OLD, AND THE TWO THAT ARE COMING FOR SURE ARE COMING FROM BROOKLYN AND TORONTO. MIKE EDWARDS IS REFERRING TO THIS AS THE LAST REUNION OF THE SURVIVORS. SO THAT WILL BE INCREDIBLE. WE LIKELY HAVE FAMILIES OF A FEW OF THE LIBERATORS OF THE TRAIN COMING AS WELL, SO THAT THEY CAN MEET THE PEOPLE THAT THEY'RE THAT THEIR FAMILY SAVED. WE DEFINITELY HAVE A FAMILY COMING FROM GERMANY WHO THEY'RE THEY HAVE A HIGH SCHOOL STUDENT WHO DISCOVERED THAT THIS ENTIRE THING HAPPENED BASICALLY IN THEIR BACKYARD, AND THEY WANT TO BE HERE AND MEET THESE PEOPLE AND BE A PART OF IT. SO THEY'RE FLYING IN FROM GERMANY FOR THE EVENT. AND SO THERE'S A WHOLE LOT OF THINGS HAPPENING THAT ARE MORE THAN NOW JUST THE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE MOVIE. AND I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE REALLY COOL AND EXCITING. LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE, THE MORE EXCITING IT GETS, THE MORE EXPENSIVE IT GETS. AND WE WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THE BUDGET, SO I'M PLEASED TO ANNOUNCE THAT TODAY I SECURED AN ADDITIONAL $5,000 DONATION THAT COVERS ESSENTIALLY ALL OF OUR CATERING AND KEEPS US WITHIN BUDGET. AND SO VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT. AND IS THAT YOUR THIRD 5000? I'M SORRY. THAT'S THE THIRD 5000. 
          YEAH. AWESOME. YEAH. SO THAT IT FROM A FAMILY JOEL AND JODIE ALTSCHUL. OH YEAH. HAVE HAVE MADE THAT COMMITMENT TO ME TODAY. SO IT'S GOING TO BE A REALLY COOL EVENT I HOPE LIKE I SAID THAT YOU WILL HELP ME SPREAD THE WORD. I'D LOVE TO SEE US FILL THE PLACE. I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A REALLY IMPORTANT MOMENT FOR US. AND THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT. REQUESTED COMMUNICATING THAT ON SOCIAL MEDIA. THEY'VE BEEN POSTING IT OUT ON SOCIAL MEDIA. I MEAN, JOSH IS HERE. HE CAN SPEAK TO THAT. YEAH, BUT I THINK I'VE SEEN SOME STUFF THAT'S BEEN OUT THERE, AND I KNOW THAT RIGHT NOW JOSH IS WORKING ON A VIDEO PROMO. NICE. THAT HOPEFULLY WILL BE DONE REALLY SOON THAT WE'LL SHARE OUT THERE. AND, AND I'VE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH ALL THE LOCAL SYNAGOGUES, FRANKLY, I'VE BEEN IN TOUCH WITH THEM. SO THERE'S IT'S IN EVERY NEWSLETTER. IT'S SO IT'S GETTING PROMOTED QUITE A BIT. WORD IS OUT THERE. BUT I REALLY WANT OUR COMMUNITY TO REALLY KNOW ABOUT IT. SO. NICE JOB. THANK YOU. EXCITED ABOUT IT. ALL RIGHT. ANY UPDATE FROM THE CEMETERY RESTORATION ADVISORY BOARD? NO MEETING. AND THERE WAS NO MEETING OF THE PUBLIC RECORDS COMMISSION. ANY CORRESPONDENCE OR COMMUNICATION RECEIVED FROM A 
          [9. SECOND READING OF ORDINANCES AND PUBLIC HEARING]
COUNCIL MEMBER THAT WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON SECOND READING OF ORDINANCES AND PUBLIC HEARING ORDINANCE OH 31 2025 AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY BY AMENDING THE ZONING MAP TO REZONE 1.08 PLUS OR MINUS ACRES OF LAND, GENERALLY LOCATED NORTH AND WEST OF LAMBTON PARK ROAD AND SOUTH OF BRANDON ROAD, FOR AN AREA TO BE KNOWN AS THE EAST ZONING DISTRICT. FROM ITS CURRENT ZONING OF KPD COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT AND INFILL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT TO INFILL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT AS REQUESTED BY THE NEW ALBANY COMPANY, LLC. CARE. AARON UNDERHILL, ESQUIRE. MR. CHRISTIAN, YES, THANK YOU. AS YOU MENTIONED, THIS IS A REZONING APPLICATION FOR JUST OVER AN ACRE RELATED TO THE SECTION OR SECTION 30 OF THE ALBANY COUNTRY CLUB. THIS IS THE SECOND READING, SO I'LL KEEP MY PRESENTATION PRETTY BRIEF AND ALLOW. TOM RUDY IS HERE REPRESENTING NICO TO SPEAK AS WELL, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO. SO JUST LIKE TO REMIND EVERYBODY ABOUT THE REZONING PROCESS WHENEVER WE HAVE ONE COME BEFORE COUNCIL. SO DUE TO THE SITE'S LOCATION IN THE CITY, THIS REZONING WAS REVIEWED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION, WHO MAKES A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE HERE TONIGHT. AND CITY COUNCIL TAKES FINAL ACTION ON THE REZONING APPLICATION. THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE REZONING. SO JUST JUST OVER AN ACRE IS BEING REZONED. THE AREAS THAT ARE BEING REZONED ARE HIGHLIGHTED IN RED HERE ON THE SCREEN. I'LL GO THROUGH THEM IN CHUNKS HERE. SO 
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THERE'S A LITTLE TINY SECTION UP HERE TO THE NORTH, THE NORTHERN ENTRANCE TO THE SUBDIVISION. 
          THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF ACREAGE BEING ADDED THERE AS WELL. IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE SIZABLE ACREAGE BEING ADDED AT THE SOUTHERN ENTRANCE TO THE SUBDIVISION, AS WELL AS TWO PARCELS, TWO EXISTING PARCELS LOCATED HERE. SO THE FIRST TWO CHANGES ALLOW THE SUBDIVISION TO GROW JUST SLIGHTLY, AND THEN THE TWO THE OTHER CHANGES WITH REZONING AND ZONING TEXT MODIFICATION PROVIDE STANDARDS FOR ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS AND SOME ADDITIONAL STANDARDS FOR ACCESSORY STRUCTURES THROUGHOUT THE SUBDIVISION. AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU GUYS HAVE. ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS? WE'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. WOULD ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC LIKE TO SPEAK REGARDING ORDINANCE OH 31 2025 HEARING NO PUBLIC COMMENT. I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND MOVE FOR THE ADOPTION OF ORDINANCE OH 32ND. MAYOR SPALDING. YES. COUNCILMEMBER. SCHULTZ. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. BRUCE. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. 
          DEREK. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. KITS. YES. I HAVE SIX YES VOTES TO ADOPT. 
          ORDINANCE 31 2025. ORDINANCE 32 2025. AN ORDINANCE TO APPROVE THE FINAL PLAT FOR 40 SINGLE FAMILY LOTS ON 31.1 PLUS OR MINUS ACRES AND EXCEPT RESERVES F, G, H, I, J AND K FOR SECTION 30 OF THE NEW ALBANY COUNTRY CLUB SUBDIVISION, GENERALLY LOCATED NORTH AND WEST OF LANGDON PARK ROAD AND SOUTH OF BRANDON ROAD, AS REQUESTED BY THE NEW ALBANY COMPANY, LLC. 
          CARE OF AARON UNDERHILL, ESQUIRE, MISTER KIRSCH YES. SO THIS LEGISLATION IS RELATED TO THE SAME SUBDIVISION THAT WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT, NEW ALBANY COUNTRY CLUB, SECTION 30, THE SUBDIVISION IS ALREADY PLATTED. THIS LEGISLATION WILL ALLOW SOME MINOR MODIFICATIONS TO THE LOT SHAPES AND SIZES, AS WELL AS SOME REORIENTATION OF THE STREETS AND HOW THEY GET THROUGH HOW FOLKS CAN GET THROUGH THIS, THIS NEW NEIGHBORHOOD. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE. ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? BASED ON WHAT WE HEARD THE FIRST READING? YEAH. ALL RIGHT. I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. WOULD ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC LIKE TO SPEAK REGARDING ORDINANCE OH 32 2025? HEARING NO PUBLIC COMMENT. I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE A MOTION ON THE ORDINANCE? I MOVE FOR THE ADOPTION OF ORDINANCE? OH 32 2025. SECOND COUNCIL MEMBER. CASS. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. 
          DEREK. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. CHRIS. SORRY. YES. MAYOR. YES. SORRY, I COULDN'T HEAR YOU. 
          YEAH, I GOT OVER HIM. YOU GOT TO VOTE. I THINK YOU SAID YES FOR MIKE. MIKE. SORRY. GO AHEAD, I AGREE YOU VOTED OKAY. IT'S MY BAD. COUNCIL MEMBER. PERRY. COUNCIL MEMBER. BRISK. YES. 
          MAYOR. SPALDING. YES. SORRY. THAT'S OKAY. FINALLY. COUNCIL MEMBER. SHAW. YES. I HAVE SIX YES VOTES TO ADOPT. ORDINANCE. OH, SHE'S COMING DOWN THE LINE HERE. I JUST SHE JUMPED ME. 
          2025. HE MUST HAVE BEEN EXCITED. YOU WERE EXHAUSTED. SO HE'S READY TO GO. ALRIGHT. 
          [10. INTRODUCTION AND FIRST READING OF ORDINANCES]
INTRODUCTION AND FIRST READING OF ORDINANCES ORDINANCE OH 33 2025 AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND CHAPTER ONE 144 OCD OFFICE CAMPUS DISTRICT OF THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY. CODIFIED ORDINANCES. 
          MISTER CHRISTIAN, THANK YOU. SO AS YOU MENTIONED, THIS IS AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND CHAPTER 1144 OF THE CITY'S ZONING CODE, WHICH IS THE OFFICE CAMPUS, ZONING DISTRICT, TO PERMIT AND PROVIDE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS FOR INDOOR AND OUTDOOR PUBLIC RECREATIONAL FACILITIES. SO THESE ARE THE EXISTING SITES IN NEW ALBANY THAT ARE ZONED OFFICE, CAMPUS, DISTRICT AND RECREATIONAL USES. 
          PUBLIC RECREATIONAL USES, WHICH ARE A TYPE OF INSTITUTIONAL USE, IS NOT A SPECIFIC LAND USE CATEGORY IN THE CITY'S STRATEGIC PLAN. SO WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR WAYS FOR THESE TO BE INTEGRATED THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY. AND THIS CODE CHANGE WILL ALLOW THOSE USES TO BE DEVELOPED HERE IN THE ZONING DISTRICT. AND AGAIN, THIS THIS MAP HERE SHOWS WHERE OFFICE CAMPUS DISTRICT EXISTS TODAY IN THE CITY. AND THEN THIS IS THE LANGUAGE THAT PERMITTED THE NEW PERMITTED USE LANGUAGE THAT IS INCLUDED IN THE CODE CHANGE, AS WELL AS SOME OTHER DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS THAT I DON'T HAVE SHOWN HERE ON THE SLIDE. THESE CHANGES WERE REVIEWED WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION. AS I MENTIONED EARLIER IN THE MEETING, DURING THEIR JULY HEARING, AND THEY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL WITH SOME MINOR MODIFICATIONS. THEY DID RECOMMEND THAT ANY IF THERE WAS A OUTDOOR SWIMMING POOL OR SOMETHING, THAT THAT WOULD STILL BE A CONDITIONAL USE. BUT THESE ARE THE USES THAT ARE PROPOSED. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. CAN YOU GO BACK? ONE SLIDE. JUST A REAL QUICK QUESTION. ALL RIGHT. SO I SEE THE SHADED AREAS WHERE YOU HAVE OFFICE. THE THREE SHADED AREAS. BUT I NOTICE JUST THE FOURTH ONE 
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THERE THAT'S NOT SHADED. JUST THAT ONE. AND THEN ON THE TOP PART YEAH THAT ONE IS THE REASON WHY THOSE TWO ARE NOT CONSIDERED OFFICE IN OUR OFFICE CAMPUS. YES. THE BASE ZONING DISTRICT FOR THESE UP HERE IS GE GE. AND THEN THE SITE DOWN HERE IS JUST OFFICE NOT OFFICE CAMPUS DISTRICT. SO THIS THIS MAP IS JUST SHOWING WHAT'S CURRENTLY ZONED OFFICE CAMPUS DISTRICT OKAY. I JUST THOUGHT THAT LOWER ONE WAS BOTH WAS ALSO OFFICE CAMPUS. BUT IT'S NOT WE'RE JUST ADDING RECREATIONAL USE. RIGHT. WE'RE JUST ADDING RECREATIONAL USE. CORRECT? OKAY. BOTH INDOOR AND OUTDOOR OKAY OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS ON THE ORDINANCE. THAT'S GOOD. WE'LL SET THAT FOR SECOND READING AND PUBLIC HEARING AT OUR MEETING ON AUGUST 19TH. THAT TAKES US TO ORDINANCE. OH 34 2025, AN ORDINANCE PROVIDING FOR THE ISSUANCE AND SALE OF NOTES IN THE MAXIMUM PRINCIPAL AMOUNT OF $15 MILLION IN ANTICIPATION OF THE ISSUANCE OF BONDS FOR THE PURPOSE OF PAYING THE COST OF IMPROVING THE CITY'S VEHICULAR TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM AND DECLARING AN EMERGENCY. DIRECTOR. STOTZ. THANK YOU, MAYOR. IN SEPTEMBER OF 2024, THE CITY ISSUED A 12 MONTH NOTES IN ANTICIPATION OF BONDS TOTALING $22.5 MILLION TO FINANCE IMPROVEMENTS FOR MARKET STREET EXTENSION AND PART OF THE BRISTOL PARKWAY IN THE NEW ALBANY BUSINESS PARK, IN ORDER TO ALLOW ADDITIONAL TIME TO FINALIZE PLANS FOR ADDITIONAL PROJECTS TO FINANCE, SUCH AS ROADS RUN TWO. THESE NOTES MATURE ON SEPTEMBER 10TH, 2025. 
          THE LEGISLATION PERMITS THE REPAYMENT OF THESE NOTES AT MATURITY, USING THE PROCEEDS FROM A NEW $15 MILLION BOND ANTICIPATION NOTE AND OTHER AVAILABLE FUNDS AS OUTLINED DURING THE PRESENTATION OF THE MID-YEAR APPROPRIATION ORDINANCE AT THE JULY 15TH COUNCIL MEETING. AS YOU MAY RECALL, STAFF REPORTED THE INTENTION TO FULLY RETIRE. THE OUTSTANDING BOND ANTICIPATION NOTES MATURING IN SEPTEMBER USING A COMBINATION OF AVAILABLE CASH EXCEEDING THE 65% GENERAL FUND RESERVE AND CASH WITHIN THE WINDSOR TIP AND OAK GROVE TWO INFRASTRUCTURE FUNDS. COUNCIL DID APPROVE THAT APPROPRIATION ORDINANCE AT JULY 15TH MEETING. HOWEVER, FURTHER EVALUATION OF CASH NEEDS AND THE TIMING OF A FUTURE DEBT ISSUANCE INDICATES THAT REISSUING A PORTION OF THE NOTES AT MATURITY IS IN THE CITY'S BEST INTEREST. THE LEGISLATION GRANTS AUTHORIZATION TO PROCEED WITH SECURING THE NECESSARY FINANCING TO FUND THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED MARKET STREET EXTENSION PROJECT, AND THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE NEXT PORTION OF BRISCOE PARKWAY, LOCATED IN THE NEW ALBANY BUSINESS PARK, AND ACTUALLY REFINANCING THOSE FUNDINGS. IT AUTHORIZES THE ISSUANCE AND SALE OF NOTES OF UP TO A MAXIMUM OF $15 MILLION IN ANTICIPATION OF THE FUTURE ISSUANCE OF THE SAME IN GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS, WHICH IS INTENDED TO BE PRIMARILY ALLOCATED TO THE MARKET STREET EXTENSION PROJECT. HOWEVER, IT DOESN'T RESTRICT THAT $15 MILLION TO REPAYING THAT BOTH PROJECTS ARE STILL UNDERWAY, AND THE FINAL COST FOR BOTH OF THOSE PROJECTS ARE NOT FINALIZED AT THE TIME. ADDITIONALLY, THE ORDINANCE PROVIDES FOR THE FOLLOWING AND THIS IS RELATION IN RELATION TO FUTURE BONDS THAT ARE ISSUED. 
          CONSIDERING THESE ARE NOTES THAT ARE BEING ISSUED IN ANTICIPATION OF THOSE. THE DESCRIPTION OF THE ESTIMATED FUTURE BOND TERMS. NOT TO BE CONFUSED WITH THIS NOTE TERMS IS INCLUDED IN SECTION TWO TO PROVIDE INFORMATION TO FRANKLIN AND LICKING COUNTY TO ASSIST WITH ESTIMATED FUTURE DEBT LIMITATION CALCULATIONS, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY USE FOR ALL JURISDICTIONS TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE WITHIN THE GENERAL OBLIGATION OR THE GENERAL MILLAGE FOR DEBT LIMITATION. THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE AND IN CONSULTATION WITH CITY MANAGER, WILL DETERMINE THE ACTUAL PRINCIPAL AMOUNT OF THE BOND ANTICIPATION NOTES TO BE SOLD, NOT TO EXCEED THE MAXIMUM PERMITTED AMOUNT OF $15 MILLION. AS INDICATED, THE NOTES ARE TO BE DATED THE DATE OF ISSUANCE AND SHALL MATURE NOT MORE THAN ONE YEAR FOLLOWING THE DATE OF ISSUANCE, BUT COULD BE FOR MATURITY OF LESS THAN ONE YEAR. THE NOTES WILL BEAR INTEREST AT A RATE OR RATES NOT TO EXCEED 6.5% PER YEAR, AND THEN THE NOTES MAY UTILIZE THE OHIO MARKET ACCESS PROGRAM, PROVIDED THAT, IN CONSULTATION WITH OUR MUNICIPAL ADVISOR AND UNDERWRITER, FINDS IT TO BE AN ADVANTAGE. TO DO THAT, THE PROCEEDS WILL BE PAID INTO THE PROPER FUND OR FUNDS. THEY ARE CONSIDERED APPROPRIATED, SO THIS WILL FIX THE APPROPRIATION THAT WE JUST APPROVED BACK IN THE MID-YEAR AND WILL BE USED FOR THE PURPOSE FOR WHICH THE NOTES ARE ISSUED. THE SOURCE OF FOR THE MARKET STREET EXTENSION PORTION OF THE ISSUANCE MAY CONSIST OF RELATED TO PAYMENTS IN THE WINDSOR TIF FUND AND THE BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT CHARGE COLLECTED BY THE NEW ALBANY 
          [01:00:02]
COMMUNITY AUTHORITY. FOR CERTAIN BUSINESSES WITHIN THE BUSINESS PARK. ADDITIONAL ANALYSIS AND REVIEW OF THOSE FUNDING SOURCES ARE CONTINUALLY EVALUATED, AS OTHER PROJECTS AND SIGNIFICANT EXPENSES ARE PLANNED AND FINALIZED IN CONSULTATION WITH OUR BOND COUNSEL AND THE CITY'S MUNICIPAL ADVISOR, BRIAN COOPER FROM BAKER TILLY. THE RECOMMENDATION WAS MADE TO PURSUE THE ISSUANCE OF BOND ANTICIPATION NOTES TO REFINANCE THE PORTION OF THE 2024 NOTES MATURING GOING THIS ROUTE, INSTEAD OF GOING DIRECTLY TO ISSUING LONG TERM BONDS, SAVES ON THE PROCESS, THE CREDIT RATING PROCESS, AND THEN ALSO THE TIMELINE OF BEING ABLE TO ISSUE THOSE NOTES. WE ARE IN AUGUST NOW, AND WE NEED TO PROVIDE THE FUNDING IN ORDER TO RETIRE THOSE NOTES IN SEPTEMBER. SO THIS ALLOWS FOR THAT. NO OFFICIAL STATEMENT OR EXTENDED CREDIT RATING PROCESS, INCLUDING PRESENTATIONS AND POTENTIAL SITE VISITS. HOWEVER, THE CITY WILL BE PURSUING A STANDALONE RATING WITH S&P, AND THAT'S TYPICALLY OBTAINED BY COMPLETING A QUESTIONNAIRE FOR A REVIEW. INSTEAD OF DOING A FULL PRESENTATION IN 2024. IF YOU RECALL, THE NOTES WERE RATED S, P, DASH ONE PLUS, AND THAT IS THE HIGHEST POSSIBLE RATING ASSIGNED TO SHORT TERM NOTES FROM S&P. I FULLY ANTICIPATE THAT BEING THE SAME FOR THIS ISSUANCE AS WELL. IT ALLOWS FOR NEW ALBANY TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF CERTAIN ECONOMIC CONDITIONS WHERE CASH CAN BE INVESTED AT HIGHER INTEREST RATE THAN THE ANTICIPATED INTEREST RATE CHARGE FOR THE NOTES, AND IT ALLOWS US TO CONTINUE EVALUATE THE MARKET AND POTENTIALLY LOCK IN A LOWER INTEREST RATE. IF A DECISION IS MADE TO PROCEED WITH A FULL GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND ISSUANCE AT MATURITY, OUR TARGET TIMELINE WAS INCLUDED IN THE LEGISLATION LEGISLATION REPORT. WE ARE CURRENTLY TRACKING ON TIME AND PLAN TO PRICE THE NOTES ON AUGUST 28TH, WITH A CLOSING AT SEPTEMBER 9TH, AND THIS WILL ALLOW US TIME TO GET OBTAIN THE PROCEEDS IN ORDER TO SEND BACK ON TO THE INVESTORS ON SEPTEMBER 10TH. AT MATURITY. THE ORDINANCE INCLUDES LANGUAGE DECLARING AN EMERGENCY AND WAIVING SECOND READING TO FACILITATE THE ADOPTION. AT TONIGHT'S COUNCIL MEETING, AND DUE TO THE IMMEDIATE NEED TO SECURE FUNDING RELATED TO THE PROVIDE FOR THE REPAYMENT OF THE CURRENT NOTES AND CURRENT MARKET CONDITIONS, IT'S NECESSARY TO ADOPT THE LEGISLATION AT THE EARLIEST DATE POSSIBLE. WAIVING SECOND READING WILL ALLOW FOR CITY TO ADHERE TO THE TARGETED TIMELINE AS DESCRIBED, AND THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE TO ISSUE TIMELY CERTIFICATIONS OF FUNDS RELATED TO IT. I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. NICE JOB. THANK YOU. 
          CAN. JUST A QUICK QUESTION IN OUR WINDSOR TIFF, I DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME. WHAT DOES DO YOU HAVE AN IDEA WHAT THE BALANCE IS OF THAT? RIGHT NOW? I DO BECAUSE WE STILL HAVE THE CASH IN THERE. IT'S ABOUT 7 OR 8 MILLION IN CASH RIGHT NOW. OKAY. I THOUGHT IT WAS MORE, BUT THERE ARE ENCUMBERED FUNDS, SO THE ACTUAL CASH BALANCE COULD BE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER. OKAY. BUT WE HAVE 5 MILLION IS SLATED TO PAY FOR THIS PORTION OF THE MARKET STREET OKAY. SO. SO THESE ARE SHORT TERM BONDS. WHAT'S THE ANTICIPATED PAYOUT. IS IT IS IT ONE YEAR. AM I READING THAT RIGHT. YES. SO THESE ARE NOTES. SO THEY HAVE TO BE PER THIS ORDINANCE THEY'RE GOING TO BE LESS THAN 12 MONTHS. IF IT WAS LONGER WE'D HAVE TO DO THE LONG TERM FORM AND WOULD HAVE TO DO A FULL CREDIT RATING PROCESS. AND GENERALLY THESE NOTES ARE DONE IN ORDER TO ALLOW FOR TIME TO DECIDE IF WE'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY DO A FULL BOND ISSUANCE FOR THE 30 YEARS OR 20 YEARS, WHATEVER WE WANT TO GO TO. SO IT'S UP TO 15 MILLION. WE MAY DECIDE IT'S A DIFFERENT NUMBER BASED ON RATES BASED ON AVAILABLE CASH ON HAND FOR OTHER PROJECTS. RIGHT. AND YOU KNOW, AS MENTIONED IN THE APPROPRIATION ORDINANCE LAST PRESENTATION, WE DID ANTICIPATE AND WE DO HAVE THE CASH THAT WE COULD HAVE PAID THEM OFF. HOWEVER, WE'RE STILL CONSIDERING OTHER CAPITAL NEEDS AND PROJECT NEEDS WHERE IT'S JUST IN OUR BEST INTEREST TO PURSUE THIS BECAUSE THE ECONOMY IS ALLOWING FOR IT. SO THE INTEREST RATES ARE PRETTY IDEAL RIGHT NOW FOR IT. SO IT'S A LINE OF CREDIT. I MEAN, WE'RE JUST TALKING TO ESSENTIALLY A FAMILY HOUSEHOLD OKAY. ESSENTIALLY. GOT IT. ALL RIGHT. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS ON THE ORDINANCE? ALL RIGHT. 
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WE'RE DECLARING THIS AN EMERGENCY AND WAIVING THE 30 DAY REFERENDUM PERIOD. SO I WOULD MOVE THAT COUNCIL CONSIDER THE ADOPTION OF ORDINANCE OH 34 AS AN EMERGENCY AND WAIVING THE 30 DAY REFERENDUM PERIOD. SECOND. MAYOR. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. CHRIS. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. 
          BRISK. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. DEREK. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. FELLOWS. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. 
          SHAW. YES. SIX. YES. VOTES TO DECLARE AN EMERGENCY. AND WE ARE WAIVING THE SECOND READING AND THE 30 DAY PERIOD. IS THAT CORRECT? DO WE HAVE TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING NOW THAT WE'VE AGREED TO ADOPT IT AS AN EMERGENCY? I MEAN, RIGHT NOW. WHAT WE CAN DO IS TYPICALLY WE DO WE HAVE I DON'T KNOW. SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND CONDUCT THAT. NOW THAT ORDINANCE OH 34 HAS BEEN APPROVED FOR CONSIDERATION AS AN EMERGENCY ORDINANCE, I WOULD OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK REGARDING ORDINANCE OH 34? HEARING NO PUBLIC COMMENT. I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND MOVE FOR THE ADOPTION OF ORDINANCE. OH 34 2025 SECOND. YES. COUNCILMEMBER SCHULTZ. YES. COUNCILMEMBER. KISS. YES. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. DEREK. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. FRISK. YES. SIX YES. 
          VOTES TO THAT ORDINANCE. OH, WE'RE ON 32, 34, 34, 3420, 25. RESOLUTIONS ON PUBLIC HEARING 
          [11. RESOLUTIONS AND PUBLIC HEARING]
RESOLUTION ARE 18 20, 25. A RESOLUTION TO APPROVE, ADOPT AND INCORPORATE THE US 62 INTERCHANGE FOCUS AREA PLAN INTO THE 2021 ENGAGE NEW ALBANY STRATEGIC PLAN, AS REQUESTED BY THE CITY OF ALBANY. MR. CHRISTIAN. YES STAFF IS REQUESTING THAT THIS RESOLUTION BE TABLED UNTIL THE SEPTEMBER 16TH CITY COUNCIL MEETING. ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL ON THE RECOMMENDATION OF STAFF? JUST AS A POINT OF ORDER, IF WE COULD DO THAT MOTION AS A REQUEST TO POSTPONE PER COUNCIL RULES AS OPPOSED TO TABLE POSTPONE. AND WHAT WAS THE DATE AGAIN? SEPTEMBER 16TH 16. ALL RIGHT. THEN I MOVE AT THE RECOMMENDATION OF STAFF THAT WE POSTPONE RESOLUTION R 18, 2025 UNTIL OUR MEETING ON SEPTEMBER 16TH. SECOND. MAYOR. YES. 
          COUNCILMEMBER. SCHULTZ. YES. COUNCILMEMBER. BRISK. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. DEREK. YES. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. YES. I HAVE SIX YES VOTES TO POSTPONE RESOLUTION R 18 2025 TO THE SEPTEMBER 16TH COUNCIL MEETING. AND, MISS DAVIS, I KNOW YOU COMPLETED A SPEAKER CARD JUST TO TALK ABOUT THAT RESOLUTION. YOU CAN STILL SHARE YOUR COMMENTS WITH US UNDER. LET'S SEE UNDER PUBLIC COMMENT. I'LL BE A LITTLE FURTHER IN THE AGENDA. SO JUST BEAR WITH US FOR A MOMENT. THANK YOU. RESOLUTION R 26 2025 A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO A COOPERATIVE AGREEMENT WITH THE FRANKLIN COUNTY ENGINEER FOR THE IMPROVEMENT, MAINTENANCE, AND OPERATION OF PORTIONS OF WALNUT STREET AT BETHLEHEM ROAD FOR THE ROUNDABOUT INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENT PROJECT. MR. ROWLEY, THANK YOU, MAYOR. MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, THIS RESOLUTION AUTHORIZES THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO A COOPERATIVE AGREEMENT WITH FRANKLIN COUNTY ENGINEER FOR THE IMPROVEMENT AND LONG TERM MAINTENANCE OF PORTIONS OF WALNUT AND FELLHEIMER ROAD. THIS IS A UNIQUE PROJECT BECAUSE THE IMPROVEMENT SPANS BOTH NEW ALBANY AND UNINCORPORATED FRANKLIN COUNTY. WITHIN PLAIN TOWNSHIP, THE PROJECT AREA IS HIGHLIGHTED ON THIS EXHIBIT, AND THE AGREEMENT APPLIES SPECIFICALLY TO THAT AREA. THERE ARE THREE CONSTRUCTION ZONES HIGHLIGHTED HERE. THE PINK IS THE AREA THAT'S GOING TO BE RESURFACED. THE YELLOW ARE AREAS THAT ARE GOING TO BE WIDENED, AND THEN THE RED ARE IS THE INTERSECTION THAT'S GOING TO BE REBUILT WITH THE ROUNDABOUT. 
          MOST OF THE UNINCORPORATED AREA IS ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE ROAD. AND UNDER THE TERMS OF THIS AGREEMENT, THE CITY WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR DESIGNING, BUILDING AND CONSTRUCTING THE PROJECT AND FOR MAINTAINING ALL IMPROVEMENTS WITHIN THE PROJECT LIMITS. AFTER CONSTRUCTION IS COMPLETE, THE PROJECT HAS ALREADY BEEN BID AND WE'RE PREPARING TO MEET WITH THE CONTRACTOR VERY SOON TO ISSUE THE NOTICE TO PROCEED, THE COUNTY WILL REVIEW AND APPROVE THE PLANS, WHICH THEY ALREADY HAVE, AND PARTICIPATE IN CONSTRUCTION COORDINATION. AND FURTHER, THEY WILL TRANSFER $750,000 TO THE CITY TO SUPPORT THIS ROADWAY IMPROVEMENT. THE 
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PROJECT WILL BE BUILT IN WITHIN EXISTING NEW ALBANY RIGHT OF WAY OR WITHIN ROADWAY EASEMENT AREAS THAT EXIST OVER THE UNINCORPORATED PARCELS. THE CITY WILL REQUEST VOLUNTARY DEDICATION OF THOSE EASEMENTS AS PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY. IF THE PROPERTY OWNERS AGREE, WE WILL PURSUE ANNEXATION. IF THEY DECLINE, THE PROJECT WILL STILL PROCEED AS PLANNED WITHIN THE EXISTING FOOTPRINT. WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS A COUPLE. WHEN DO YOU EXPECT TO START THE PROJECT? I KNOW YOU ORIGINALLY SAID WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN THE PAST, IN THE FALL. THIS FALL, YES. SO YOU'LL LIKELY SEE ACTIVITY OUT THERE VERY SOON, POTENTIALLY EVEN WITHIN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS. THEY COULD MOBILIZE TO THE SITE AND START BUILDING THE TEMPORARY ROAD. SO WE'RE WE'RE MEETING WITH THEM ACTUALLY TOMORROW FOR PRECONSTRUCTION MEETING. AND THEN THE NOTICE TO PROCEED WILL FOLLOW SHORTLY AFTER THAT. AND THEN IN EARLY IN SEPTEMBER, THE ROAD WILL CLOSE AND YOU'LL START TO SEE MAJOR CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITY AT THAT TIME. AND THEN IT'S SCHEDULED FOR THE SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION IN DECEMBER. A COUPLE OTHER THINGS. I KNOW THAT WE'VE HAD COMMUNICATION ISSUES AROUND THE ROUNDABOUT HERE AT MARKET STREET, AND HOW THE TRAFFIC WAS REROUTED THROUGH SOME OF THE REROUTED THROUGH SOME OF THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS. YEP. I KNOW THE DISCUSSIONS THAT WE HAD WITH THIS, THAT'S ALSO GOING TO BE THE CASE. WE'RE GOING TO BE I'M SURE WE'RE GOING TO BE PROACTIVE AND WORKING WITH THAT COMMUNITY THERE. HOA MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE EVERYBODY'S AWARE OF WHAT'S HAPPENING AND WHAT THE ALTERNATIVES ARE IN TERMS OF CONTROLLING THE TRAFFIC. YES, WE ARE. WE ACTUALLY WE JUST HAD A VERY PRODUCTIVE MEETING WITH CHIEF AND HIS STAFF AND, AND JUSTIN AND OUR TEAM, AND WE WENT OVER THIS AND WE HAD A VERY LONG MEETING AND LOOKED AT EVERY INTERSECTION. AND SO WE ARE BEEFING UP OUR BARRICADES FOR LACK OF BETTER IN OUR TRAFFIC CONTROL MEASURES. AND WE'VE GOT AN EXHIBIT PUT TOGETHER THAT WE ARE GOING TO USE TO, AS YOU SAID, COMMUNICATE WITH THE HOA AND RESIDENTS, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO BE WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH JOSH AND HIS TEAM AS WELL. 
          YEAH, I SEE JOSH IS ALL POISED BACK THERE. SO AND WE AND WE HAVE A VIDEO ON THURSDAY GOING OUT. OH NICE. SO THAT WILL BE POSTED. GOOD. AND THEN MY FINAL QUESTION WOULD BE THE LEISURE TRAILS OR LEISURE TRAILS GOING TO BE INCLUDED? I KNOW THAT THAT HAS ALSO BEEN DISCUSSED, BUT I JUST WANTED CONFIRMATION ON THAT. CONFIRMED. SO EVERYWHERE THAT WE'RE SEEING WHERE ARE THE LEISURE TRAILS ACTUALLY GOING TO GO? OKAY, SO I KNOW ON THE NORTH SIDE WE HAVE THE LEISURE TRAIL CONNECTION HERE. AND THEN JUSTIN, YOU CAN CHIME IN AND CORRECT ME AS, AS NEEDED WITH THE WITH THE LEISURE TRAILS HERE. BUT THEN I BELIEVE WE'RE COMING DOWN THE, THE SOUTH LEG AS WELL AND FILLING IN THE GAPS HERE. SO THAT WILL GO ALL THE WAY TO NEW ALBANY ROAD EAST. 
          WE'LL HAVE A LEISURE TRAIL FROM NEW ALBANY ROAD EAST ALL THE WAY UP TO BETHLEHEM. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. SO THAT THAT WHOLE SECTION WILL BE CONNECTED. THAT'S WONDERFUL. 
          YEP, YEP. THANK YOU, JUSTIN, FOR. AND THEN FINAL QUESTION REGARDING THE SAME DISCUSSION WE HAD EARLIER ABOUT THE ROUNDABOUT. HERE IS THE SAFE PASSAGE OF ALL THE. PEDESTRIANS, BIKE TRAFFIC, PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC CROSSING THAT CROSSING THROUGH THAT ROUNDABOUT TO ENSURE THAT IT'S A SAFE CROSSING. YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF YOUNG, YOUNG PEOPLE GOING UP THERE WITH THEIR E-BIKES AND THEIR SCOOTERS AND WALKING TO GET TO THE FACILITIES UP THERE. 
          SO I'M SURE WE'RE TAKING GREAT CARE AND ENSURING THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE AS SAFE AS POSSIBLE FOR THEM TO CROSS OVER. THAT'S RIGHT. THE IMPROVEMENTS ARE GOING TO INCLUDE THE PEDESTRIAN ACTIVATED BEACONS. OKAY. YEAH. THANK YOU. RYAN, JUST TO FOLLOW UP ON CHIP'S MESSAGE HERE ABOUT THROUGH TRAFFIC, IT'S REALLY GOING TO BE NEW ALBANY LINKS DRIVE. IT'LL FEEL THE MAJORITY OF IT, ESPECIALLY FOLKS THAT WILL BE GOING TO THE RED AND PURPLE BASEBALL FIELDS AS WELL AS PICKLEBALL, BECAUSE THAT'LL BE THEIR ACCESS ROUTE. MORE THAN LIKELY TO GET TO THE PARKING LOT. AGREE COMPLETELY. YEAH. AND SO WE'VE WE'VE DISCUSSED THAT HEAVILY. AND OUR STREET PROGRAM IS GOING TO BE WORKING IN THAT AREA AROUND THE SAME TIME, WHICH I BELIEVE WILL HELP DISCOURAGE SOME OF THAT CUT THROUGH TRAFFIC. YOU'RE PUTTING IN THE TRAFFIC CALMING AT THE SAME TIME. THAT'S THE OTHER THING. I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH JOE ON THAT AND WE ARE. THERE WILL BE MORE TO COME ON THAT I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK OUT OF TURN, BUT WE ARE, WE ARE. WE HAVE BEEN 
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WORKING. WE'VE HAD SOME MEETINGS NOW WITH THE HOA AND HAVE BEEN WORKING ON A PLAN FOR IMPLEMENTING. THAT'S A TRIFECTA FOR THE LINKS. I MEAN, THE CONSTRUCTION IS GOING TO BE VERY DISRUPTIVE, BUT THAT'S WHAT EVERYBODY'S BEEN ASKING FOR UP THERE FOR A LONG TIME. TRAFFIC CALMING, ALL THE LINKS DRIVE THE ROUNDABOUT IN THE LEISURE TRAIL CONNECTIONS. THAT'S WONDERFUL. 
          THAT'S A PRETTY STRAIGHT ROAD THAT HEADS RIGHT UP THERE. SO OKAY, SO WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT AS WE IMPROVE BILHEIMER AND WIDEN THAT, THAT AND AS THIS AREA CONTINUES TO GROW, BOTH FOR THE PUBLIC SERVICE BUT ALSO THE CIVIC AMENITIES AND JUST ADDITIONAL CITY SERVICES UP HERE, THAT FOLKS WILL BE MORE ENCOURAGED TO USE BILHEIMER AND THEN LESS ENCOURAGED TO USE THE LINKS OVER TIME. OH ONE YEAH, ONCE THE PROJECT'S DONE, ABSOLUTELY THAT'LL HAPPEN. BUT DURING THE PROJECT. THERE, THAT'LL THAT'LL BE STRAIGHT'S TAKE TWO RIGHT THERE SITUATION. 
          OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS ON THE RESOLUTION? I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. 
          ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC LIKE TO SPEAK REGARDING RESOLUTION R 26, 2025 HEARING? NO PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE A MOTION ON THE RESOLUTION? I MOVE ADOPTION OF RESOLUTION R 26 2025 SECOND. COUNCIL MEMBER KELLY. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER DA. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. YES. YES. COUNCILMEMBER. SCHULTZ. YES. MAYOR. SPALDING. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. YES. SIX. 
          YES. VOTES. RESOLUTION R 26 2025. ALL RIGHT. ANY COUNCIL SUBCOMMITTEE REPORTS? I DON'T 
          [13. REPORTS OF REPRESENTATIVES]
HAVE ANY YET. REPORTS OF REPRESENTATIVES. JOE, ANY UPDATE FROM RBC? JUST ONE ITEM. THE COMMISSION HAD ITS SUMMER RECESS IN JULY. THEY'LL BE RECONVENING IN AUGUST BEGINNING NEXT WEEK. 
          BUT THEY DID PUBLISH A NOTICE STATING THAT REGISTRATION IS NOW OPEN FOR THEIR SUMMIT. THIS IS THEIR ANNUAL SUMMIT ON SUSTAINABILITY THAT WILL OCCUR ON TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 30TH, BETWEEN 8 A.M. AND 4:30 P.M. AND A LOCATION WILL BE AT THE HILTON HILTON COLUMBUS AT THE DOWNTOWN LOCATION ON HIGH STREET. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. ALL RIGHT. ANY UPDATE FROM THE JOINT PARKS? THERE IS AN UPDATE. WE GOT A COUPLE OF THINGS. THE FALL SPORTS SEASON IS JUST STARTING NOW. ALSO, AS YOU CAN SEE BY THE PICTURE ON THE SCREEN THERE, THE PICKLEBALL TOURNAMENT SUMMERSLAM PICKLEBALL TOURNAMENT WENT OFF WITH RELATIVELY NO HITCHES, WHICH WAS SHOCKING BECAUSE THE WEATHER FORECAST FOR THAT ENTIRE WEEKEND WAS RAIN, AND THEY WERE VERY FORTUNATE ENOUGH THAT IT REALLY DID NOT IMPACT THE TOURNAMENT AT ALL. THEY HAD MORE REGISTRANTS, REGISTRATIONS AND PEOPLE PLAYING THIS YEAR. THEY DID THE PREVIOUS YEAR. AND, YOU KNOW, THEY DID A PHENOMENAL JOB OUT THERE WITH EVERYTHING, AND THEY'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO DOING IT NEXT YEAR. SO EVERYTHING WENT GREAT. DID YOU WIN ANYTHING? AS I SAY WE PARTICIPATE. YEAH. SO WE ENDED FOURTH OUT OF THE OUT OF THE 12 TEAMS. BUT IT WAS IT WAS INTERESTING. SO YOU JUST MISSED THE PODIUM. YES. THAT'S THE THAT'S THE PODIUM. BUT IT WAS THE WE LOST OUR BRONZE MEDAL MATCH. BUT IT WAS A IT WAS ALL GOOD. SO. YEP. GOOD. ALSO THEY HAVE FAMILY FUN NIGHT COMING UP ON 816 AUGUST 16TH AT 630. THAT IS AN EVENT THAT THE FOUNDATION PUTS ON. THEY DID PASS SOME LEGISLATION TO ALLOW ALCOHOL THERE FOR THAT NIGHT. SO THERE WILL BE ALCOHOL THERE. AND THEN THAT WILL ALSO BE THE LAST MOVIE NIGHT THAT THEY'LL HAVE THERE, AND IT'LL BE IN THE ORANGE ZONE. UPDATE ON THE REC CENTER. I'M TELLING YOU, I HAD A I'M GOING TO WALK THE SITE, BUT THEY HAVE IT LAID OUT AT LEAST THE STONES, THE WHERE THE BUILDING'S GOING. AND WHEN YOU THINK 200 SQUARE FOOT, I USUALLY THINK OF A VERTICAL BUILDING WHEN YOU DO THAT, THIS IS REALLY ALMOST A ONE STORY, 200 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING. IT IS MASSIVE. THE FOOTPRINT OUT THERE, 600FT■!S TO OUR 200,000, SORRY, 200,000 SQUARE FOOT. YEAH, IT IS BIG. IT'S MASSIVE. YEAH. RIGHT. WALK HIS WALK IN CLOSET. YEAH. SO THEY ARE ON TRACK FOR NOVEMBER 2026. THEY DID HAVE SOME RAIN DELAYS, BUT THEY ENSURED THAT WILL BE MADE UP PRETTY QUICKLY. AND THEY ARE GOING TO START BUILDING THE BUILDING HERE IN 
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NOVEMBER OR SEPTEMBER OF 2025. SO NEXT MONTH YOU'LL ACTUALLY START SEEING SOME SOME THINGS GO UP. SO I THINK PEOPLE WILL GET EXCITED TO BE DRIVING OUT THERE AND SEEING THAT. HOW ARE YOU GOING TO GET ALL THAT CONSTRUCTION? OH, THAT'S THE ACCESS ROAD THAT YOU'RE PUTTING IN. THERE'S A LOT OF ACTIVE CORNER UP THERE. YES. RIGHT. YEAH. AND IT'S RELATIVELY WITHIN BUDGET. SO EVERYTHING'S GOING WELL WITH IT. THAT'S IT. ALL RIGHT. ANY UPDATE FROM NEW ALBANY PLAIN LOCAL SCHOOLS? THERE WAS NO MEETING SINCE OUR LAST MEETING. NO UPDATE. ALL RIGHT, MATT, SOMETHING ELSE YOU WANTED TO ADD? YEAH. I'M SORRY. THEY ALSO WANTED ME TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW THAT THEY ARE HOSTING THEIR FIRST GOLF OUTING FUNDRAISER THIS FALL. AND IT IS SEPTEMBER 26TH. SHOTGUN START AT THE LINKS. AND THEY WOULD JUST FORCE THEM. IF YOU HAVE A FOURSOME, IT'S $500. SPACE IS CAPPED AT 32 TEAMS, AND THEY JUST WANTED ME TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW THAT THAT IS AVAILABLE FOR ANYBODY HERE, ANYBODY LISTENING IF THEY'D LIKE TO PLAY. SORRY, THAT WAS IT. ALL RIGHT. AND ANY UPDATE FROM THE TOWNSHIP? THERE'S A MEETING. GENERAL BUSINESS. THEY'RE STILL WORKING THROUGH THE AUXILIARY FIRE LOCATION. YEAH, I DID SEE THAT. 
          THE COLUMBUS FIRE STATION IS PROGRESSING RATHER QUICKLY. I WAS CONFUSED WHERE THE LOCATION WAS. JOE, I THINK YOU WERE TOO. YOU THOUGHT IT WAS A LITTLE FURTHER UP. HARLEM. IT'S KIND OF AROUND THE CORNER. CENTRAL IN HARLEM. YEAH, BUT IT'S COMING TOGETHER QUICK, WHICH KIND OF REMINDED ME THAT. I MEAN, THAT'S FROM THE PROPOSED FIRE STATION TO THE COLUMBUS FIRE STATION. 
          THAT'S GOING TO BE LIKE, A MILE. YEAH, IT'S VERY CLOSE. OKAY. IT'S AT THE OLD BALL FIELD THERE. THERE USED TO BE A BALL FIELD. YEAH. BASEBALL FIELD. YEAH. ALL RIGHT, SO REPORTS TO 
          [14. REPORTS OF CITY OFFICIALS]
CITY OFFICIALS. REALLY? NOTHING ON MY END TO REPORT ANYTHING FOR THE CLERK. YOU GUYS RECENTLY WENT TO TASTE OF NEW ALBANY. IF YOU HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS FOR CATERING LUNCH OUT OF THAT FOR THE CAPITAL PROJECTS WORKSHOP, PLEASE LET ME KNOW. ALSO, I'M GOING TO BE PULLING YOU SHORTLY FOR THE BUDGET WORKSHOP IN NOVEMBER. STAFF WOULD LIKE TO SEE US LAND AGAIN ON THAT SECOND WEEK IN NOVEMBER. BETWEEN THE TWO COUNCIL MEETINGS THAT WEDNESDAY, THURSDAY OR FRIDAY, I'LL BE SENDING OUT A POLL. JUST RESPOND AS QUICKLY AS YOU CAN. LET'S GET THIS ON THE CALENDAR. 
          OKAY, THAT'S ALL FOR ME. I'M OUT THAT SECOND. OH, WE MIGHT NOT BE IN THE SECOND. FLEETWOOD MAC. 
          THAT'S THIS. THURSDAY, THURSDAY, THURSDAY NIGHT, FLEETWOOD GOLD, MAYBE MONDAY. HERE WE GO. BUT MAYBE THE REAL FLEETWOOD MAC WILL COME AGAIN. FLEETWOOD FIRST SERVE ON THE OUTSIDE. YEAH, ON THE OUTSIDE. DON'T START THAT RUMOR. YEAH. NOW I'VE GOT A QUESTION HERE. HOW ARE WE DOING ON THE DOOR CUP SITUATION IN THE CITY? ONLY BECAUSE I'VE GONE TO A COUPLE EVENTS AND BREWDOG DID NOT HAVE DOOR CUPS. THAT'S WE HAVE PLENTY OF PLENTY OF DOOR CUPS THAT THEY ESTABLISHMENTS CAN COME AND BUY VERY EASILY FROM THE SERVICE DEPARTMENT. ALL RIGHT. GOOD. YEAH. AND WE REACH OUT BEFORE THE SEASON START TO MAKE SURE THEY KNOW HOW TO GET IN TOUCH WITH US TO GET THE CUPS. ALL RIGHT. YEAH. I JUST I WAS SURPRISED THAT IN TWO OCCASIONS THAT BREWDOG DID NOT HAVE DOOR CUPS, THEY SAID, YOU'RE OUT OF I'M SORRY, DID WE MAKE WE MAKE THEM BUY THE CUPS AT COST. MAYBE THEY DON'T WANT TO PAY FOR THEM. THAT'S WHY THEY DON'T HAVE THEM. I DON'T KNOW, OR THEY JUST RAN OUT OF THEM. I KNOW WE'VE GIVEN THE INFORMATION. I THINK THE INFORMATION IT'S BEEN REALLY HARD TO GET THE INFORMATION OUT AND, AND GET I THINK THERE'S SOME CHANGEOVER IN STAFFING THAT MAYBE PROHIBITS PEOPLE KNOWING HOW TO GET THE CUPS. YEAH. IT'S ON OUR WEBSITE. WE HAVE WE REACH OUT TO THEM, LIKE I SAID BEFORE, EVERY SEASON TO TALK TO THE MANAGERS. IT'S JUST IT'S BEEN A CONTINUAL PROBLEM. I WAS A LITTLE DISAPPOINTED. YEAH, I BELIEVE IT, BUT I SURVIVED. WE'RE ALLOWED TO DRINK WATER INSTEAD OF BYOB, RIGHT? WELL, I'M HEARING WE CAN BRING OUR OWN TO BUY A CASE OF NOT TO OUR COUNTRY. NO, OUR CONCERTS ARE DOOR ONLY. YEAH, OUR CONCERTS ARE ONLY. YEAH. NOT SUPPOSED TO BE BYOB. I HAD TO RUN DOWN THERE AND CHUG A BEER AND THEN COME BACK ON THE CONCERT, RUN DOWN, CHUG ANOTHER BEER, OR COME BACK AND WATCH THE CONCERT. I WILL SAY, ANYBODY WANT MY TABLE? SO TWO WEEKS AGO AT THE CONCERT, PEOPLE WERE BRINGING IN DOOR CUPS FROM BREWDOG, SO THEY DID HAVE THEM AT THE CONCERT. OKAY, SO I MIGHT HAVE TO. YEAH, I MEAN, WE CAN REACH OUT AND MAKE SURE THEY KNOW THAT WE'RE EXPECTING A BIG CROWD ON THURSDAY. WELL, DO THEY STILL DO THAT TRAILER WITH THE YOU KNOW THAT THEY CAN SERVE OUT OF THAT. THEY CAN JUST PARK IT IN THE PARKING LOT THERE AND SERVE DOOR CUPS THERE RIGHT ON SITE. THEY COULD I HAVEN'T SEEN THAT OUT THIS SEASON. I HAVEN'T SEEN IT 
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THIS YEAR EITHER. AND I THOUGHT IT WAS A GOLD MINE LAST YEAR. YEAH, I DON'T KNOW. BUT PEOPLE LITERALLY DO GO. THEY CROSS OVER THE STREET. YEAH. AND COME BACK AND BUT YEAH, MAYBE REACH OUT AND LET THEM KNOW THAT THURSDAY IS GOING TO BE A. YEAH, WE'LL DEFINITELY TRY AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE READY. YEAH. YEAH. THAT'S GOOD FOR THEIR SALES. YOU CAN'T IT'S GREAT FOR THEIR SALES I MEAN IT'S FLEETWOOD MAC. IT'S GOING TO BE HUGE. ANYTHING ELSE. NOPE. ALL RIGHT FINANCE DIRECTOR ANYTHING. WHICH IS HELLO BETHANY. I WAS JUST LISTENING TO YOUR YOUR CUPS AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT COST AND ALL THAT STUFF. SO, NO, I HAVE NOTHING TO ADD. OKAY. ANYTHING FROM THE CITY MANAGER? JUST ONE QUICK ITEM. AS WE'VE DISCUSSED IN PRIOR MEETINGS, WE ARE AT THE STAGE IN OUR OUR STRATEGIC PLANNING PROCESS WHERE IT'S TIME TO START TO CONSIDER A FIRM TO PERFORM A SEARCH FOR THE NEXT CITY MANAGER. THERE ARE A COUPLE DIFFERENT WAYS THAT WE COULD APPROACH THAT. SO THERE'S TWO ELEMENTS THAT I WAS HOPING TO DISCUSS TONIGHT AND GET SOME DIRECTION FROM YOU ON. AS YOU MIGHT RECALL, A THE SEARCH FIRM WOULD BE A PROFESSIONAL FIRM. SO AS A PROFESSIONAL SERVICE, WE'RE NOT REQUIRED TO PUBLICLY BID OR ASK FOR REQUESTS FOR PROPOSALS. 
          WE COULD CHOOSE TO DO THAT FORMALLY OR INFORMALLY. ONE THOUGHT THAT I HAD IS IF WE DO IT INFORMALLY, THEY'RE PROBABLY ABOUT 8 TO 10 FIRMS THAT WE'RE AWARE OF THAT PERFORM THAT SERVICE, THAT HAVE A FAIRLY GOOD REPUTATION. WE COULD REACH OUT TO THOSE FIRMS AND THEN SEE IF THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO SUBMIT A PROPOSAL TO US. THAT IS PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT MORE EXPEDITIOUS PROCESS THAN GOING THROUGH A FORMAL ADVERTISEMENT AND WAITING FOR PEOPLE TO GET TO GET BACK TO US. PROBABLY A 3 TO 4 WEEK TIME SAVINGS. THE SECOND PART, THE SECOND QUESTION THAT I WOULD HAVE IS, I KNOW THERE'S LIKELY A GENERAL INTEREST ON COUNCIL TO PARTICIPATE IN THE SELECTION OF THE FIRM. THAT ALL HAS TO BE DONE IN A PUBLIC MEETING. ONE THOUGHT THAT I HAD, IN ORDER TO MAKE THE PROCESS FLOW A LITTLE BIT MORE EFFICIENTLY, IS TO BASICALLY CREATE A COUNCIL SUBCOMMITTEE OR A WORKING GROUP OF, SAY, NO MORE THAN THREE COUNCIL MEMBERS WORKING WITH REPRESENTATIVES OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE TEAM TO BASICALLY WHITTLE A GROUP OF PROPOSALS DOWN FROM, HYPOTHETICALLY, 8 OR 10 TO A GROUP OF THREE FINALISTS, AND HAVE THOSE THREE FINALISTS PRESENT IN FRONT OF COUNCIL IN A PUBLIC MEETING. IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT SOUNDS. ATTRACTIVE, THAT'S SOMETHING YOU'D LIKE TO TRY TO PURSUE. WE CAN START TO WORK IN THAT DIRECTION. LINDSAY WOULD TAKE THE LEAD ON ON THAT PROCESS IN TERMS OF REACHING OUT TO THE FIRMS. AND THEN WHAT WE WOULD DO IS WE WOULD BRING BACK ALL THE PROPOSALS TO COUNCIL. SO YOU WOULD HAVE YOU WOULD HAVE ACCESS TO ALL OF THOSE PROPOSALS BEFORE THE COMMITTEE WOULD CONVENE, AND THEN YOU WOULD ALSO HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT WAS PROVIDED FOLLOWING THE FOLLOWING THE COMMITTEE'S WORK. WOULD WE DO THAT UNDER NORMAL BUSINESS OF A COUNCIL MEETING OR SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING? YOU COULD DO IT EITHER WAY. IT JUST DEPENDS ON THE AMOUNT. YOU KNOW, I WOULD ANTICIPATE THAT THE INTERVIEW OF EACH OF THE FIRMS WOULD TAKE ANYWHERE BETWEEN 20 TO 30 MINUTES, COULD GO A LITTLE BIT LONGER. SO IF YOU HAD THREE FIRMS, YOU MAXIMUM TIME ROUGHLY 90 MINUTES. SO IT SOUNDS LIKE WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING IS THE SUBCOMMITTEE WOULD DO ALL THE HEAVY LIFTING PRETTY MUCH TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THE ALL THE PROPOSALS AND THEN KIND OF BRING THREE BACK TO COUNCIL, AND THEN ALL OF COUNCIL COULD PARTICIPATE ON THE THREE, RIGHT? CORRECT. YES. SOUNDS GOOD. I LIKE THAT APPROACH. SOUNDS GOOD. I THINK IT EASES WORKLOAD ON ALL OF COUNCIL. A GOOD WAY TO EXPEDITE THE PROCESS. BOTH PROPOSALS. ALL RIGHT. SO NO OBJECTIONS TO DOING THE INFORMAL RFP. AND WE'LL BRING THAT INFORMATION BACK. 
          YEP. THANK YOU. YEP. THAT'S ALL THAT WAS EASY. ALL RIGHT. ANY UPDATE FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY. 
          [15. POLL FOR PUBLIC COMMENT]
NOTHING TO ADD. AND PULL FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, MISS DAVIS. HELLO. MY NAME IS TAMARA DAVIES. 
          I LIVE AT 8200 CENTRAL COLLEGE ROAD. I'M HERE TO DISCUSS THE US 62 FOCUS PLAN. WE'RE SEEING. 
          OBVIOUSLY, THE PLAN IS INVOLVING WHAT WE IT'S EXPECTED TO BE AN INCREASE IN TRAFFIC IN THE AREA. 
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I'M NOT SEEING ALL THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT I WOULD EXPECT FOR THE INCREASED TRAFFIC. IN FACT, I DID NOT SEE THE WORD TRUCK, SEMI TRUCK OR TRACTOR TRAILER ANYWHERE IN THE PLUS PAGES OF THE PLAN. SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE THESE TRUCKS, SEMIS AND TRACTOR TRAILERS ARE GOING TO. I DO SEE THAT KITZMILLER IS BEING DISCONNECTED FROM ITS CURRENT USE AND PUSHING TRAFFIC ONTO OTHER ROADS. CURRENTLY, KITZMILLER IS LISTED IN THE DOCUMENTS AS A MINOR COLLECTOR. 
          THE PLAN CALLS FOR DISCONNECTING KITZMILLER FROM CENTRAL COLLEGE ROAD, NORTH OF 161 AND DISCONNECTING SOUTH KITZMILLER FROM NORTH KITZMILLER BY NOT ONE, NOT TWO, BUT THREE ROUNDABOUTS SOUTH OF 161. OBVIOUSLY, SOMEONE DOESN'T LIKE TRAFFIC ON KITZMILLER. THIS IS FROM PAGE 104. IN THE FOCUS PLAN. I GUESS SPEAKING TO SOME PEOPLE WHO'VE BEEN ON SOME OF THE PLANNING FOR THIS CHANGES FOR THE AREA, THEY'RE NOT SURE WHERE THIS IDEA CAME FROM FOR DISCONNECTING KITZMILLER AND FOR TRANSPARENCY, SINCE IT DIDN'T COME FROM THE GROUP THAT'S WORKING ON IT. THE GROUP OF CITIZENS JUST KIND OF WONDERING WHERE IT CAME FROM. 
          ADDITIONALLY, THIS PAST YEAR, I CAME BEFORE THE COUNCIL BECAUSE OF THE EPCON BUILDINGS AT THE END OF CENTRAL COLLEGE ROAD AND JUG, WHERE THEY'RE PUTTING 150 HOMES ON 60 ACRES. I WAS TOLD THAT THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS RURAL RESIDENTIAL, BUT WHEN I LOOK AT THIS FOCUS AREA PLAN, I SEE NORTH MILL, GATEWAY DISTRICT SUBDISTRICT, SEE, HAVING RURAL RESIDENTIAL. SO IS RURAL RESIDENTIAL NOW A NEW ZONING BECAUSE I WAS TOLD THERE'S RESIDENTIAL. IS THERE A RURAL RESIDENTIAL ZONING OR IS THAT JUST. I DON'T KNOW, BUT BECAUSE I THOUGHT THAT WE WERE IN A RURAL RESIDENTIAL AREA UP ON CENTRAL COLLEGE AND I WAS TOLD THERE'S NO SUCH THING. OKAY. 
          NEXT, LOOKING AT THE PLAN, CENTRAL COLLEGE ROAD GOES FR&-PR COLLECTOR. AFTER YOU CROSS OVER JOHNSTOWN ROAD, GOING FROM WEST TO EAST, THERE ARE 290 DEGREE TURNS ON CENTRAL GULF CENTRAL COLLEGE AS IT MEETS JUNK, AND THE TRAFFIC ON THIS ROAD HAS INCREASED TENFOLD IN THE LAST FEW YEARS. FIRST, WE OPENED UP THE BACK SIDE OF ABERCROMBIE AND FITCH TO THEIR EMPLOYEES THAT COME THROUGH. NOW WE'RE JUST IN THE MORNINGS AND THE AFTERNOONS. THERE'S A LOT OF TRAFFIC GOING TO THE JUG BEACH AREA FOR CONSTRUCTION AND WORK. IT'S GETTING SO MUCH. I HAVE TO STAND THERE AT THE END OF MY DRIVEWAY TO CROSS THE ROAD, TO WALK MY DOG, WAITING FOR THE TRAFFIC TO GO BY. SO I DON'T KNOW THAT THE ROADS WAS MEANT TO HANDLE THAT, ESPECIALLY WITH THE 290 DEGREE TURNS THAT WE HAVE AT THE END THERE. AND THIS IS EXCLUDING THE 150 PLUS HOMES THAT ARE GOING TO BE COMING IN IN THE NEXT YEAR PLUS TIME FRAME. SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PLANS ARE FOR IMPROVING CENTRAL COLLEGE ROAD. ALSO, IF WE LOOK AT TRUCKS, LIKE I SAID, TRUCKS WERE NEVER MENTIONED IN THIS PLAN, SO I DON'T KNOW IF THE TRUCKS JUST DISAPPEAR OR WHAT. BUT CURRENTLY, IF YOU'RE GOING NORTH ON JOHNSTOWN ROAD, IF A TRUCK HAPPENS TO GET OFF OF 161 AND IS HEADING NORTH ON JOHNSTOWN ROAD, THERE'S A SIGN AT THE SMITH MILL INTERSECTION THAT SAYS NO TRUCKS. AND I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THEY MEAN BY NO THROUGH. CAN IT NOT GO THROUGH TO KITZMILLER? CAN IT NOT GO THROUGH THE BEACH? BUT IT SAYS NO THROUGH TRUCKS. SO WHAT HAPPENS IS THOSE TRUCKS GO NORTH TO CENTRAL COLLEGE ROAD, AND THEY EITHER GO DOWN CENTRAL COLLEGE ROAD AND TRY AND MAKE 290 DEGREE TURNS, OR THEY DO AN ALMOST 180 DEGREE AND THEY COME BACK ON KITZMILLER. AND THERE USED TO BE A SIGN THERE, I THINK THEY SAID NO TRUCKS ON KITZMILLER, BUT BECAUSE OF THAT 180 DEGREE TURN, BY THE TIME THEY MAKE THAT TURN, THEY'VE TAKEN THAT SIGN OUT AND IT'S BEEN GONE NOW FOR PROBABLY A YEAR. SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS THAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THERE'S NO TRUCKS ON SMITH MILL. SMITH MILL IS TWO LANES, EACH DIRECTION DIVIDED WITH TURN LANES. CENTRAL COLLEGE HAS NONE OF THAT. IT'S ONE LANE EACH DIRECTION, NO TURN LANES AND 290 DEGREE TURNS. SO IF ANYWHERE SHOULD BE NO SEMIS, NO TRUCKS, IT SHOULD BE CENTRAL COLLEGE ROAD. SO I'M PROPOSING THAT WE PUT THAT IN. AND LIKE I SAID, GOING LOOKING FURTHER ON THE 
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PLANNING FOR THIS AREA, I AM CONCERNED ABOUT CENTRAL COLLEGE ROAD EAST OF JOHNSTOWN ROAD. 
          PLUS THAT KITZMILLER DISCONNECT AND WHY WE'RE SUDDENLY TURNING THAT INTO A RURAL ROAD. AND IT'S A MINOR COLLECTOR AND WE'RE FORCING TRAFFIC ONTO THE OTHER ROADS WITHOUT MAKING MORE CONCESSIONS ON THOSE OTHER ROADS. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? NO GOOD COMMENTS. AND ARE YOU GOING TO BE ABLE TO RETURN ON THE 16TH? IT'LL PROBABLY BE MYSELF OR MY HUSBAND. OKAY. THANK YOU. GOOD POINTS. I MEAN, THERE'S PROBABLY SOME THINGS WE COULD JUST MENTION. I KNOW, TAMARA, I KNOW THAT THE DISCONNECT OF KITZMILLER, WE'VE BEEN HAVING ADDITIONAL MEETINGS AND THAT HAS BEEN IN EVERY DISCUSSION. SO THAT'S THAT'S OUT THERE. THE WHOLE COMMITTEE IS PUT THAT OUT THAT THAT MIGHT NOT BE SOMETHING THAT THEY WOULD RECOMMEND HAVING ATTENDED ALL THOSE MEETINGS. BUT I DO THANK YOU ON THE I'M GOING TO LOOK INTO YOUR RURAL RESIDENTIAL DISCUSSION. AND ALSO THE CENTRAL COLLEGE STUFF. SO I SIT ON THAT COMMITTEE, SO I'LL MAKE SURE THAT THAT GETS BACK. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD 
          [16. POLL FOR COUNCIL COMMENT]
LIKE TO ADDRESS COUNCIL HOLD FOR COUNCIL COMMENT. ANY ADDITIONAL COUNCIL COMMENT. I JUST WANT TO THANK CHIEF AND STAFF AND YEAH, PELOTONIA WAS HERE THIS WEEKEND AND SPREAD ALL OVER NEW ALBANY. 
          I THINK WE WERE AT ON THE SCHOOL CAMPUS AT ABERCROMBIE. A LOT OF ROUTES, A LOT OF FINISH LINES, A LOT OF STARTS. SO A LOT OF COORDINATION HAD TO GO ON. AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE'S A HUGE POPULATION OF 454 THAT RIDE IN PELOTON EVERY YEAR. AND. DOUG ULMAN, FORMER PRESIDENT, I TALKED TO HIM ON SUNDAY AND SAID HOW CENTRAL NEW ALBANY IS TO THE PELOTON. SO HE EXTENDED HIS THANKS AS WELL FOR THE COMMUNITY SUPPORT. SO THANKS FOR PULLING IT OFF AND IT WENT OFF WITHOUT A HITCH. WELL, HOW'D YOU GET 62 DEGREES AND A TAILWIND ON SUNDAY? BECAUSE WE HAD A HEADWIND ON SATURDAY. WE PAID FOR IT GOING OUT. IT WAS NICE COMING HOME. RIGHT. WE HAVE TO GET A TEAM NEXT YEAR. YEAH. PULL THIS OFF THE NEW ALBANY PELOTON. SAM I DON'T HE DID. SAM SHARE THE PICTURE WITH YOU JOSH SAM AND I WERE AT THE FINISH LINE ON SUNDAY TOGETHER. SAM RODE THE SUNDAY ROUTE AND I WAS FINISHING MY ROUTE. SO I THINK WE'RE GETTING CRITICAL MASS WHERE WE CAN GET A SQUAD TOGETHER. JOE'S GOT HIS HYBRID BIKE. I THINK WE'RE READY TO GO. I GOTTA SEE WHAT HE LOOKS LIKE IN SPANDEX. I WON'T COMMIT TO THE OHIO ETHICS COMMISSION NEXT WEEK. I'LL SET UP A CALL JUST TO RUN THROUGH SOME OF THE TRAPS AS IT RELATES TO US PUBLIC OFFICIALS PARTICIPATING. OKAY, BUT I THINK WE COULD CREATE A PELOTON AGAIN. ALL THE FUNDS GO TO CHARITABLE ACTIVITY. YEAH, WE MAY HAVE TO PAY A REGISTRATION FEE, BUT THAT'S FINE. YEAH, BUT YEAH, IF WE COULD HAVE THAT CONVERSATION, COULD BE STAFF. IT COULD BE MEMBERS OF THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY. I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN EXTEND IT TO ALL MEMBERS OF, YOU KNOW, RESIDENTS OF THE COMMUNITY, MAYBE FOR NOT ANOTHER PELOTON. WE CAN SEE HOW FAR WE MAYBE START SMALL AND GROW OVER A COUPLE OF YEARS. RIGHT? I CONSIDER RIDING AN E-BIKE. IS THAT ALLOWABLE? ABSOLUTELY. WITH THE HELMET NOT ON THE LEISURE PATH, YOU HAVE TO WEAR A HELMET. IT'S ABSOLUTELY. YOU DO HAVE TO FINALLY COULD PASS YOU. MAYBE YOU DO HAVE TO WEAR A HELMET. SO SAM'S ALREADY WORKING ON JERSEY THAT'S PREDOMINANTLY WHITE. SO I'M EXCITED TO SEE THE FINAL RESULT OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER COUNCIL COMMENTS? THEN I MOVE THAT WE ADJOURN TO EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO 
          [17. EXECUTIVE SESSION]
OHIO REVISED CODE ONE 2122 G2 TO CONSIDER THE PURCHASE OF PROPERTY FOR THE PUBLIC PURPOSES OF PREMATURE DISCLOSURE OF INFORMATION, GIVE AN UNFAIR COMPETITIVE ADVANTAGE TO A PERSON WHOSE PERSONAL OR PRIVATE INTEREST IS ADVERSE TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC PURPOSE, AND ALSO PURSUANT TO NEW ALBANY CHARTER 4.03 E FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PURPOSES. SECOND MAYOR SPALDING. 
          YES. COUNCILMEMBER. SCHULTZ. YES. COUNCILMEMBER. RICE. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. DEREK. YES. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER. FELLOWS. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. KITS. YES. SIX. YES. VOTES TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AT 8:09 P.M. FOR THOSE FOLLOWING ALONG, WE'RE GOING TO TURN OFF THE AUDIO, BUT THE CAMERAS WILL REMAIN ON. WE WILL BE RESUMING THE REGULAR
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