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NEW ALBANY ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD MEETING FOR MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 8TH. COULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? MR. HENSON HERE, MR. ITEM HERE, MR. MALLETT HERE, MISS MOORE HERE. MR. HERE, MR. DAVEY, MR. BROWN, COUNCIL MEMBER BRISK HERE. THERE ARE FIVE VOTING MEMBERS PRESENT. WE

[III. Action on minutes: June 9, 2025 and August 11, 2025]

HAVE A QUORUM. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANY ACTION ON THE MINUTES OF THE JUNE 9TH, 2025 MEETING AND THE AUGUST 11TH, 2025 MEETING? LET ME, IF I MAY, MR. MALLETT'S, START WITH THE JUNE 9TH MEETING AND AGAIN, THANK STAFF FOR RECONSTITUTING THEM. APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH.

BASED UPON OUR COMMENTS LAST TIME, I HAVE NO COMMENTS ON THE MINUTES AND I'M PREPARED TO APPROVE THEM IF THE BOARD IS. SEEING NO OTHER PEOPLE COMMENTING, I WILL MOVE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF THE JUNE 9TH, 2025 MEETING. MR. ITEM. YES. MR. STRONG YES. MISS MOORE. YES. MR. HENSON YES. MR. MALITZ YES. THE AYES HAVE IT. THE MOTION PASSES WITH FIVE VOTES TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS SUBMITTED. THANK YOU. STAFF, ARE THERE ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS? SORRY. I'M SORRY I HAVE NO COMMENTS ON THE MONDAY, AUGUST 11TH MINUTES, BUT I'LL LET SOMEBODY ELSE MOVE IF THEY WANT TO DO SO. OR SEEING NO OTHER COMMENTS. OR I CAN MOVE IF THERE'S NO OTHER COMMENTS. ANYBODY I WILL MOVE. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF THE MEETING OF AUGUST 11TH, 2025. I'LL SECOND. MR. ITEM. YES, MISS MOORE? YES, MR. HENSON? YES, MR. STROLLER, YES. MR. MALITZ YES. THE AYES HAVE IT. THE MOTION PASSES WITH FIVE VOTES

[IV. Additions or corrections to the agenda]

TO APPROVE THE AUGUST MINUTES AS SUBMITTED. THANK YOU. STAFF, DO WE HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL CORRECTIONS TO TONIGHT'S AGENDA? YES. WE'LL HAVE AN ADDITION UNDER OTHER BUSINESS FOR THE FOOD PANTRY AND FORMAL PRESENTATION. AND WE CAN PUT THAT AHEAD OF THE SIGN PLAN.

THANK YOU. AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO ADMINISTER THE OATH TO ALL WITNESSES AND APPLICANTS WHO PLAN TO ADDRESS THE BOARD. PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. DO YOU SWEAR? DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? YES. THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY VISITORS HERE TONIGHT

[VI. Cases]

FOR ITEMS NOT ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA? SEEING NONE, I'LL MOVE FORWARD WITH THE FIRST CASE THIS EVENING, WHICH IS ARB 67 2025, THE CHURCH OF THE RESURRECTION PRAYER GARDEN. THE.

THE APPLICANT IS SCOTT HARPER. STAFF. WE HAVE STAFF REPORT, PLEASE. ALL RIGHT. SO, YES, THE CHURCH OF THE RESURRECTION. RESURRECTION IS REQUESTING A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR A NEWLY PROPOSED PRAYER GARDEN, AS WELL AS THE REQUESTED HARDSCAPE MATERIALS THAT WERE CONDITIONED TO COME BACK IN FRONT OF THE BOARD IN ON JULY 8TH OF 2024. SO THE CHURCH OF THE RESURRECTION SITE IS ZONED URBAN CENTER DISTRICT AND IS WITHIN THE CAMPUS IN RURAL RESIDENTIAL SUBDISTRICT. THIS 17.1 ACRE IN SIZE SITE IS CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION FOR THE CHANGES THAT WERE APPROVED IN JULY OF LAST YEAR, SO THE SITE PLAN OF WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED AND IS ACTIVELY UNDER CONSTRUCTION. WHAT IS HIGHLIGHTED OR OUTLINED IN RED IS THE PRAYER GARDEN, WHICH IS NOT BEEN HEARD FROM THE BOARD BEFORE, AND THEN THE SECTIONS IN ORANGE ARE THE HARDSCAPES THAT WERE CONDITIONED TO COME BACK IN FRONT OF YOU ALL. SO LOOKING AT THE HARDSCAPES, THE APPLICANT HAS CHOSEN TO DO BRICK PAVERS FOR THE HARDSCAPES OUTSIDE OF THE PROPOSED COMMUNITY CENTER BUILDING, AND THOSE ARE THE COLOR OPTIONS THAT WERE PROVIDED. FOR THE PRAYER GARDEN. THIS IS JUST A CLOSER UP SITE PLAN. OF THE PRAYER GARDEN. THE PRAYER GARDEN WITH THE PAVILION KIND OF CALLED OUT A LITTLE BIT MORE FOR JUST A LITTLE EXTRA DETAIL, AND JUST TO POINT OUT THAT THE TOP OF THE PAVILION IS MATCHING THE TOP OF WHAT IS ON THE CHURCH RIGHT NOW, SORT OF AT THAT KIND OF CONSISTENCY. AND THEN JUST TO POINT OUT THAT THE PARKING IS NOT AN ADDITIONAL PARKING. THIS WAS APPROVED PARKING FROM THE ORIGINAL SUBMITTAL, JUST SO EVERYONE'S AWARE. SO THESE ARE THE PRAYER GARDEN WALLS. THEY'RE PROPOSED BRICK WALLS SURROUNDING THE GREENERY INSIDE. THE BRICK COLOR IS SAID TO BE MATCHING WITH THE THE EXISTING CHURCH ON SITE AND HAVE LIMESTONE ON THE TOPS OF IT AS LIKE A CAP. AND THE CITY ARCHITECT HAS LOOKED AT THESE DESIGNS AND HAS

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COMMENTS REGARDING THE CHOICE IN THE OPENINGS ALONG THE WALL, AS WELL AS ASKING FOR CLARIFICATION ON THE ARCHWAY MATERIAL. AND THEN FOR MATERIALS AND LANDSCAPING. AS STATED BEFORE, THE GARDEN WALLS ARE WILL BE MADE OF BRICK TO MATCH THE EXISTING BRICKS ON THE SITE WITH THE LIMESTONE CAPS, AND THE GARDEN PATH WILL BE MADE OUT OF CRUSHED LIMESTONE. OTHER PAVILION WILL BE WHITE ON THE POST AND HAVE A BLACK METAL ROOF MATCHING WHAT IS ON THE ROOF OF THE CHURCH AS OF RIGHT NOW, AND THE CITY LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT HAS REVIEWED THIS DESIGN AND HAS NO ADDITIONAL COMMENTS, AND THE GARDEN WOULD BE ADDING MORE PLANTINGS TO THE SITE COMPARED TO THE ORIGINAL DESIGN OF THIS AREA. THAT WAS JUST GREEN SPACE WITH FOUR TREES ON IT. AND THEN HERE ARE SOME RENDERINGS OF WHAT THAT GARDEN WOULD BE LOOKING LIKE. THE PROPOSED PRAYER GARDEN IS A HIGH QUALITY AND INTEGRATES WELL WITH THE EXISTING AND FUTURE CHURCH BUILDINGS. THE CITY ARCHITECT RECOMMENDS MODIFYING THE GARDEN WALL DESIGN, SPECIFICALLY USING BRICK ARCH, ADJUSTING OR REMOVING THE CUTOUTS, AND MATCHING THE BRICK AND ROOFING COLORS TO THE CHURCH, WHICH THEY HAVE SAID THAT THEY WERE GOING TO DO TO MAINTAIN THE COHESIVE SITE DESIGN. WITH THESE CHANGES, THE SITE CHARACTER AND QUALITY WILL REMAIN INTACT. AND THEN THESE ARE THE CONDITIONS FROM THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT OR SORRY, FROM THE ARCHITECT AS WELL AS CITY STAFF. AND I'M HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. SO IS THE APPLICANT. SO A QUESTION MAYBE TO STAFF TO INTERPRET WHAT THE CITY ARCHITECT SAID ON THE CUTOUTS I AGREE WITH I DON'T THINK THE THE OVALS OR CIRCLES ARE PROPER. WHAT WOULD BE AN APPROPRIATE. HE JUST SAID SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE MORE IN LINE WITH A BRICK DESIGN. SO I'M THINKING SOMETHING MORE SQUARE IN DESIGN. HE DIDN'T GIVE SPECIFIC COMMENTS. HE ALSO SAID THAT THE IDEA OF JUST GETTING RID OF THEM AS A WHOLE WOULD ALSO WORK, THAT MAYBE THE GETTING RID OF THEM IS SOMETHING I'LL SAY, AND I'LL ALLOW THE APPLICANT TO HAVE THEIR SAY, BUT I WOULD, I'M NOT SURE. I'M NOT SURE. OKAY. AND THEN DID THE ARCHITECT AT ALL, I MEAN, APPEARS NOT TO HAVE COMMENTED. THE QUESTION IS WHEN YOU LOOK AND MAYBE I'M. IT IS AGAIN MY I'M NOT AN ARCHITECT BUT I PLAY ONE ON THIS BOARD WHEN I, WHEN I GO TO PEOPLE. EXCUSE ME, MR. HANSON, I CAN BORROW THIS. SO WE HAVE THE ARCH AND THE ARCHITECT AT LEAST SUGGESTED THAT ON THE IMAGES THAT WE HAD VERSUS THE DRAWINGS, IT WAS BRICK. THE ARCHITECT THEN SEEMED TO SUGGEST THAT IT WAS WOOD HERE. IF THAT WERE STONE, I GUESS THE ARCHITECT DIDN'T OFFER A VIEW. HE JUST SAID, MAKE IT BRICK. YEAH, I THINK THAT THE THEY WEREN'T CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WAS CALLED OUT ON THIS ONE, AS WELL AS WHAT WAS CALLED OUT IN THE RENDERINGS ITSELF. SO HE JUST WANTED CLARIFICATION ON SUBJECT TO SAP APPROVAL. HE JUST SUGGESTED THAT THE BRICK OPTION WOULD HAVE BEEN THE MOST CONSISTENT WITH THE DESIGN IN HIS EYES. ALL RIGHT. AND THEN AND IF OKAY, SO THAT'S WHAT I.

OKAY. THOSE WERE MY QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW ON STAFF I HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS BUT I'LL LET THE APPLICANT HAS ANYTHING. OTHERWISE I CAN I CAN ASK QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT. OH YEAH. WELL. SO WHAT YOU'RE AND AGAIN REMIND ME YOUR NAME IS MY NAME IS SCOTT HARPER. AND WITH ME IS SUE LARSON WHO IS THE BUSINESS MANAGER AT RESURRECTION. IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU BACK. THANK YOU. AND IT'S NICE TO SEE GROUND BROKEN AND THINGS HAPPENING. VERY EXCITING.

YEAH. SO WHAT WHAT IS YOUR INTENT BETWEEN OBVIOUSLY THE THE PICTURES SHOWED BRICK THIS SHOWED SOMETHING OTHER THAN BRICK. WHAT WHAT WHAT DID WHAT DO YOU INTEND TO BUILD. IT IS INTENDED TO BE BRICK. AND I DO BELIEVE THAT THE THE PAMPHLETS THAT WERE SENT OUT TO YOU WERE REVISED. WE DID ACTUALLY SHOW THAT AS BRICK AND CALL IT OUT. OKAY. ON THE ARCH. OKAY. SO THE WHAT I'M LOOKING AT HERE THAT IT DID END UP COMING TO ME IS. THAT'S CORRECT. I SHOULD IGNORE THE FACT THAT IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE BRICK. IT IS INTENDED TO BE A BRICK. OKAY. CORRECT. VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU SEE IN THE RED. OKAY. SO I HAD MAYBE. THREE COMMENTS BROADLY AND IT'S AND I DROVE I DROVE AROUND NEW ALBANY TODAY, A LOT OF PLACES TO LOOK AT PIERS. YOU CAN GO GO BACK TO WHERE WHERE YOU WERE BEFORE. IT'S FINE TO LOOK AT PIERS AND TO LOOK AT TREATMENT OF WALLS WHERE THERE IS THEN A DRAMATIC CHANGE AS WELL AS I LOOK FOR ANY PRECEDENT, AT LEAST IN THE COUNTRY CLUB COMMUNITY, FOR A TREATMENT OF THE CORNER LIKE THAT. I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING. CAN YOU BRING UP THE SLIDE OF THE PICTURES THAT I HAD? SO WHAT WHAT I'M SEEING BROADLY WHEN YOU HAVE AND AGAIN, AGAIN, AS I SAID BEFORE, I'M NOT AN ARCHITECT, BUT I PLAY

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ONE ON HERE. BUT WHEN I SEE A DIFFERENT A CHANGE BETWEEN A WALL AND ANOTHER STRUCTURE, WE SEE THIS TREATMENT OVER AND OVER. I MEAN, THIS IS JUST ONE WHERE THEY DIDN'T DO ANYTHING AT ALL. BUT WE SEE THAT. AND CAN YOU GIVE ME THERE'S SOME MORE IF YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT ONE. SO AGAIN YOU HAVE THAT, YOU HAVE THAT, YOU HAVE THAT. SO WHEN I, WHEN I GO TO WE CAN GO BACK TO THE, TO THE CHURCH NOW. SO WHEN I GO BACK TO, TO THIS I WOULD CERTAINLY I GUESS IF WE GET RID OF THE OPENING THEN OF COURSE YOU DON'T NEED SUCH AS MUCH WIDTH THERE. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE SOMETHING CLOSER TO WHAT? WHERE WE HAVE THE PRECEDENT AROUND NEW ALBANY OF THAT TYPE OF A TREATMENT, RATHER THAN THIS BROAD SQUARE TREATMENT ABOVE THE WALL. AND AGAIN, ARCHITECTS, HELP ME GIVE ME THE WORD OR USE THE RIGHT WORDS, BUT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE SOMETHING CLOSER TO THAT. THE OTHER THING THAT I DIDN'T SEE MUCH PRECEDENT FOR WAS ON THE CORNER HERE AGAIN, JUST I DIDN'T SEE PRECEDENT FOR THIS. WHAT I SAW PRECEDENT FOR WOULD BE A PIER. I THINK THAT'S THE TERM OR WHAT ONE OF THESE. BUT BUT LOWER AGAIN RATHER THAN THAT TREATMENT. BECAUSE AGAIN I GO I GO AROUND AND I SEE THAT OVER AND OVER AGAIN. I WOULD THINK THAT'S A BETTER EXAMPLE. THAT'S BETTER. NEW ALBANY SPEAK. FINALLY, WHEN I LOOK AT THESE PARTICULARLY, I GUESS THE ONLY PIERS THAT ARE THERE WHICH WHICH AGAIN WOULD BE THESE, IT SEEMS THAT THE WIDTH OF THOSE, I THINK THAT'S A SEVEN FOOT. AND I THINK IF I READ IT RIGHT, IT'S 2 FOOT OR 2 FOOT ON THE PLAN. FROM LOOKING AT THE OTHER ONES, I'M SEEING A NARROWER PROFILE OF A PIER GENERALLY. I MEAN, USUALLY SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 4 AND 9FT OR SO. I'M SEEING MORE TWO AND A HALF BRICKS. SO MORE OF A 2020 ONE INCH PIER TO NARROW IT SLIGHTLY. AND WHEN I WENT, FOR EXAMPLE, TO THE EXISTING CHURCH, WHILE THAT ONE HAPPENS TO BE THREE BRICKS, WHICH IS, YOU SEE THAT TREATMENT OTHER PLACES IN ALBANY, THE ONES THERE ON THE COLONNADE OF CHURCH THAT'S A 20 FOOT TALL COLUMN. SO I WOULD PREFER, SUBJECT TO OTHER PEOPLE ON THE BOARDS COMMENT THAT THESE PIERS BE NARROWED OR A GOOD, A GOOD, OR TO OR FOR YOU TO CONVINCE STAFF WHY THIS IS THE RIGHT DIMENSION FOR THIS HEIGHT, GIVEN THE OTHER TREATMENTS WITHIN THE COUNTRY CLUB COMMUNITY. YEAH, WELL, IF I COULD GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY ON THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS PROGRAM, IS THERE WAS A SUBCOMMITTEE PUT TOGETHER AT THE CHURCH THAT ACTUALLY WORKED FOR MONTHS AND MONTHS ON THIS, AND OBVIOUSLY EVERYBODY HAD A VARYING OPINION ON THE HEIGHTS OF THE WALLS AND WHAT THE WALLS WOULD BE. BUT ULTIMATELY THE CORNERS WERE DESIGNED THE WAY THAT THEY WERE FOR MORE OF THE INSIDE THAN THE OUTSIDE, SO THAT WE COULD CREATE PRIVATE PRAYER AREAS THAT WOULD NOT BE SO NARROW IN FOCUS, AND WHERE WE COULD HAVE ADDITIONAL STATUES AND OTHER OTHER COMPONENTS AND ELEMENTS. AND I DON'T OBJECT TO HAVING A RAISED CORNER, BUT IF YOU DID THAT, THEN I'D LIKE A I'D LIKE THE TREATMENT OF THE WALL TO APPEAR THE HIGHER WALL AND THEN APPEAR AT THE CORNER AND APPEAR. YEAH.

SO AS YOU GO AROUND NEW ALBANY, GENERALLY WHEN YOU HAVE A CHANGE IN ELEVATION, YOU HAVE THE RUN UP TO A PIER, THEN A HIGH WALL, THEN A PIER, THEN A HIGH WALL APPEAR, AND THEN THE RUNDOWN AS AS SOME OF THOSE PICTURES, I THINK I DIDN'T HAVE ANY CORNERS THERE, BUT I HAD A LOT OF EXAMPLES OF THE RUN UP TO A PIER, SO I, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE HIGHER CORNER, BUT I'D LIKE TO HAVE NEW ALBANY TREATMENT OF IT, WHICH IS PIER, PIER RUNDOWN OR RUN UP WOULD BE.

SO DO YOU WANT TO WEIGH IN ON THAT AT ALL? YES. SUE LARSON, I'M THE BUSINESS MANAGER AT CHURCH OF THE RESURRECTION. SO IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO HAVE QUIET SPACES IN THE CORNER.

YEAH, RIGHT. SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE BENCHES, THOSE KIND OF THINGS TO DO. THE QUIET SPACES.

INITIALLY IT WAS PROPOSED THAT THIS BE A SIX FOOT WALL ALL THE WAY AROUND LIKE A FORTRESS. AND WE SAID, NO, IT DOES NOT MATCH ANYTHING. SO THIS THIS IS WHERE WE SETTLE TODAY, RIGHT? BUT THE I DON'T EVEN KNOW THE BEHIND THE LIBRARY, THE LIKE ROSE GARDEN OR WHATEVER IT'S CALLED.

IT'S BEAUTIFUL. RIGHT. SO I LOVE THAT SPACE. I LOVE THE, THE THE GRASS. I WALKED OVER THERE. THAT WAS SOME OF MY PICTURES THAT I TOOK ON ALL THOSE OTHER THINGS. I THINK IT WOULD BE DISTRACTING TO PUT APPEAR ON THOSE CORNERS. I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S WIDER THAN WHAT THE COLONNADES ARE, SO IT'S GOING TO LOOK DIFFERENT, BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE DISTRACTING INSTEAD OF JUST HAVING A CORNER. I'M NOT AN ARCHITECT BY ANY MEANS, SO INSTEAD OF PUTTING PIERS THERE, PLUS THE COST OF THAT, WE'RE RUNNING ABOUT $1 MILLION RIGHT

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NOW. WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. SO WORKING WITH THE DONOR, TRYING TO GET EVERYTHING ELSE INSIDE ART, AS WELL AS THE TREATMENT OF THE PLANTS AND EVERYTHING ELSE TO MAKE THAT A VERY LUSH SPACE. AND WE REALLY WANT THE WALLS TO DISAPPEAR. SO WITH ALL OF THE ARCHITECTURAL LANDSCAPE TREES, ALL OF THE DIFFERENT THINGS, VINES GROWING, WE REALLY WANT THE WALL TO ALMOST DISAPPEAR. THAT PICTURE IS TOUGH BECAUSE IT'S NOT APPROPRIATELY, BUT YOU CAN SEE THE CORNERS. THE TREES ARE GOING TO BE BIG SHADING. WE WANT WE DON'T WANT TO SEE BRICK, BUT YOU SEE THEM FROM THE OUTSIDE. NO. IDEALLY, ONCE IT'S ALL GROWN AND MCCULLOUGH IS IN THE WINTER, HE WELL, I GUESS THE LANDSCAPE IS. LANDSCAPER HAS TOLD US THAT HE HAS PLANNED FOR EVERY SEASON BESIDES THE TREES TO DROP THEIR LEAVES. EVERYTHING ELSE WILL HAVE DIFFERENT THINGS IN THE WINTER, WHETHER IT BE EVERGREENS OR WHATEVER, WHATEVER ELSE TO TO DO THAT. THE OTHER THING THAT'S VERY CRITICAL FOR US IS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO SEE INSIDE, AND IT NOT TO BECOME A SAFETY ISSUE. THERE WILL BE CAMERAS AND ALL THOSE OTHER THINGS INSIDE, BUT THOSE ARE ALL AFTER ACTION ITEMS. THEY'RE NOT SOMETHING TO PREVENT. SO TO HAVE THE OPENINGS, THE WIDTH OF THE OPENING OR TO HAVE WHATEVER SHAPE IT IS ROUND, SQUARE, OVAL IN THE BRICK, IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US NOT TO BE A FORTRESS. AND I WORKED VERY HARD WITH THE DONOR TO GET THAT TO BE AN UNDERSTANDING. WE'RE A VERY PUBLIC SITE, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE A PRIVATE ENTITY AND I DON'T NEED ANY ISSUES INSIDE. SO. SO FROM MY STANDPOINT AT LEAST, I DON'T THINK I'D APPROVE THIS WITHOUT THE PIERS AND WITHOUT THAT RUN UP. AND I'M NOT SURE I'D APPROVE IT WITH THE HOLES IN THE WALL. JUST NO HOLES AT ALL. COULD YOU GO TO THE ONE? YEAH. BIGGER BLOW UP IN THE SOUTH AT LEAST. NO I'M NOT. I'M HAPPY TO LOOK AT HOLES IF I MIGHT LIKE BETTER, BUT I CERTAINLY DON'T LIKE THE OLD THOSE. SO YOU WOULDN'T OUTSIDE OF THE ARCH. IF IT'S ALL OUT OF BRICK, YOU WOULD WANT ANY HOLES IN THAT WALL AT ALL. I'M NOT CRAZY ABOUT THE HOLES, BUT. BUT I'D LIKE. I'D LOVE OTHER OTHER BOARD MEMBERS I'M SPEAKING FOR MYSELF, AND OTHER BOARD MEMBERS MAY HAVE DIFFERENT VIEWS. I JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS TO POINT OUT. THE TOWER. I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT'S CALLED, BUT THE TALLEST TOWER NEXT TO THE GARDEN HAS RECTILINEAR CORNERS, AND THEN IT ALSO HAS THAT REPETITIVE, THE CIRCULAR OPENING. SO I FEEL LIKE IT'S TYING THAT IN. AND I KNOW YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT THE CHAMFERED EDGES AND IT'S IT'S SOFTER, BUT I THINK RELATING TO THE EXISTING ARCHITECTURE, THE RECTILINEAR KIND OF FITS IN. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE EXISTING BUILDING, IT'S GOT SHARP EDGES AS WELL. YOU HAVE THE BELL TOWER, WE HAVE THE CIRCLES ON THE BELL TOWER AS WELL AS THE SHARP EDGES. SO I THINK TRYING TO MAKE IT ALL COHESIVE. THOSE ELEMENTS ARE DOING IT. UNLESS THAT TOWER IS NOT THERE CURRENTLY. CORRECT. OH, IT'S THAT'S THAT'S THE THAT'S THE BELL TOWER IS THERE. THAT'S THE BELL TOWER. YEAH. CORRECT. YEAH. IT'S ALREADY STANDING THE, THE SOUTH WALL THAT WE SEE TO YOUR RIGHT THERE. IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US NOT TO HAVE ANY BREAKS IN THAT WALL BECAUSE OF AGAIN, A SAFETY CAR ISSUE BECAUSE WE'RE ALREADY TALKING ABOUT HOW DO WE GET A CAR NOT ACCIDENTALLY GOING THROUGH THAT WALL, BUT WE ALSO NEED SIGHT LINES THROUGH THAT SO PEOPLE KNOW THAT THEY'RE THERE. ARE THERE ANY OTHER AREAS IN NEW ALBANY? I GUESS I WENT AROUND A LITTLE BIT, BUT DIDN'T SEE ANY THAT HAVE OPENINGS IN THE WALLS IN THE CLUB OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. I COULDN'T FIND THEM. I'M OPEN TO OTHER IDEAS BESIDES THE ROUND ONES. THERE COULD BE SOME. I'M THINKING OF A COUPLE OF NEIGHBORHOODS, BUT YOU KNOW THAT THAT IS A MUCH DIFFERENT APPLICATION THAN I THINK WHAT'S TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH HERE. AND I THINK WE GOT TO LOOK AT IT CONTEXT SENSITIVE. BUT I DO THINK THAT THERE ARE SOME THERE ARE SOME EXAMPLES OF PENETRATIONS EDGEWOOD'S COMES TO MIND FOR THIS. THEY ARE MORE OF LIKE A HALF HALF ARCH AT THE BASE OF THE WALL ON A REPEATING RHYTHM THAT CREATES A LITTLE BIT MORE TRANSPARENCY. IT CREATES A PERCEPTION OF LIGHTNESS OF FORM, WHICH I THINK WOULD PROBABLY BE IN STEP WITH WHAT YOU JUST DESCRIBED. I DO, I DO FIND THE THE OPENINGS A BIT DISTRACTING, AND I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHY, AND I THINK IT MAY JUST BE SOME OF THE CREATIVE LIBERTIES WITH THE RENDERING IT. IT LOOKS AS THOUGH THE SECTION SHOWS AS A 16 INCH WIDE WALL, BUT THE RENDERING SHOWS IT AS A 24 INCH WIDE WALL. IF YOU WERE TO COUNT THE BRICK AND KIND OF REVERSE ENGINEER THE MATH ON THAT, IS IT 16 IS THE INTENTION 16 OR IS IT 16 INCH WIDE 16 INCH WALL? YEAH, YEAH. SO I DO THINK THAT THE RENDERING IS A BIT MISLEADING. IT SHOWS A MUCH, MUCH DEEPER OPENING. BUT I, I WOULD OFFER IF, IF THE, IF THE

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OPENINGS ARE IMPORTANT FIRST I WOULD TAKE A LOOK AT ELY CROSSING OR NOT ELY EDGEWOOD'S AS A POTENTIAL WAY TO LIGHTEN THE FEEL OF THE WALL. I THINK IT WAS DONE QUITE NICELY, AND THAT'S GOT HISTORICAL PRECEDENT FOR DRAINAGE AND OTHER THINGS. I YOU MENTIONED BUDGET. I SEE NO PRACTICAL ADVANTAGE TO TRYING TO DO THAT IN LIMESTONE. I WOULD MUCH PREFER TO SEE IT IN BRICK. I THINK IT WOULD SOFTEN THE APPEARANCE DRAMATICALLY. THAT IS A HAND CARVED LIMESTONE SECTION, PROBABLY IN FOUR PIECES. THAT'S NOT AN INEXPENSIVE DETAIL TO FABRICATE OR TO INSTALL. SO AND I JUST DON'T THINK YOU'RE GAINING MUCH ESTHETICALLY. AND OF COURSE, OVER TIME, THE BASE OF IT'S GOING TO DARKEN AND IT'S GOING TO SHOW ITS AGE IN A MORE SIGNIFICANT. YEAH. SO I MEAN, THOSE WOULD BE SOME OF MY COMMENTS. I THINK I AGAIN, I DON'T FIND THEM QUITE AS OBJECTIONABLE, BUT SOMETHING DOES SEEM A LITTLE OFF THERE. I DON'T HAVE AS MUCH CONCERN ABOUT THE CORNERS. I DO AGREE WITH YOU THAT A PROPERLY TERMINATED PIERS THE CORNER WOULD BE DESIRABLE IF THERE'S A PROGRAMMATIC CONCERN THERE. I, I DON'T KNOW, I THINK THE, I THINK THE PENETRATIONS ARE MORE OF WHAT'S, WHAT'S JUMPING OUT AT ME. I DID HAVE ONE CLARIFYING QUESTION. THE PAVILION NOTES THAT THE ROOF IS STANDING SEAM METAL ROOF. IS IT COPPER? RIGHT NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT A STANDING SEAM THAT WOULD MATCH CLOSELY WITH THE CHURCH. THE CHURCH IS COPPER. THE CHURCH IS COPPER. SO IS IT GOING TO BE COPPER OR IS IT GOING TO BE A COLOR MATCH TO COPPER? IT WOULD BE A COLOR MATCH. THAT'S THAT'S OUR INTENTION. OKAY. I WOULD STRONGLY ADVOCATE FOR DELETION OF LIMESTONE AND A COPPER ROOF ON THAT PAVILION. IT'S I SAY THAT BECAUSE THE IDENTITY OF YOUR CHURCH, I MEAN, THAT IS A VERY, VERY STRONG ELEMENT. YEAH. IT'S FROM THE DAY IT WAS INSTALLED AS ITS PATINA. I JUST THIS IS VISIBLE I YOU'RE NEVER IT'S IT'S GOING TO BE A VERY OBVIOUS DIFFERENCE. SO I WOULD JUST ADVOCATE FOR THAT. I THINK IT'S A REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT THING. I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD DO. WE COULD I MEAN IT'S COMPARED TO THE CHURCH.

RELATIVELY SMALL, RELATIVELY SMALL. YEAH. THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS. THANK YOU. I ACTUALLY LIKE THE IDEA OF THE BRICK AS WELL INSTEAD OF THE LIPSTICK. SO I THINK THAT'S AN IMPROVEMENT. I DO THINK THE OTHER THING TO POINT OUT, YOU COULD GO TO THE MASTER PLAN SITE. SO IT'S IMPORTANT ONCE SO CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION, THIS COMMUNITY CENTER WHICH IS ON THE SOUTH AND THEN THE NORTH WEST CORNER, IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION WITH THE MAINTENANCE, STORAGE AND THE ADDITIONAL PARKING. ONCE THE PARISH LIFE CENTER GOES UP, THE.

THIS PRAYER GARDEN REALLY IS A TRIPOD OF THE PARISH LIFE CENTER, THE EXISTING CHURCH OF THIS PRAYER. LORD. SO WHEN YOU COME OUT OF THE CHURCH, IT'S WE'RE TRYING TO DRAW SOMEBODY INTO THAT GARDEN. YOU COME OUT OF THE PARISH LIFE CENTER, WE'RE TRYING TO DRAW SOMEBODY INTO THAT PRAYER GARDEN. SO THE OPENINGS AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS WE WANT PEOPLE TO SEE INSIDE AND KIND OF LIKE WHAT'S IN THERE. WHAT SHOULD I GO DO IN THERE? SO IT'S CRITICAL FOR US TO MAKE THAT TRI CONNECTOR RIGHT IN THE CENTER, BECAUSE THAT ONCE THE EXISTING MINISTRY CENTER GOES AWAY, THIS WOULD BECOME. A FEW OTHER THINGS I'D LIKE TO MENTION AS WELL. THE PARISH LIFE CENTER, WHICH IS THE BUILDING IMMEDIATELY TO THE WEST. THERE IS A VERY STRONG ARCHED ENTRYWAY FOR THAT BUILDING THAT IS KIND OF AN ELEMENT AND A MONOLITH IN AND OF ITSELF. THE OPENING TO THE PRAYER GARDEN FROM THE PARISH IS RIGHT ON AXIS WITH THAT, THAT ENTRYWAY TO THE PARISH LIFE CENTER. SO THE TWO PIERS THAT ACTUALLY IDENTIFIED THE ENTRYWAY ON THE NORTH SIDE ARE DEAD ON AXIS WITH THAT ENTRYWAY, WHICH WAS INTENTIONAL, AND THEN THE SAME AS SUE MENTIONED FROM THE CHURCH ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE PRAYER GARDEN. MY CONCERN OF THE LACK OF PIERS ON THE CORNERS IS AS MUCH STRUCTURAL INTEGRITY. SIX FOOT BRICK WALL SHOULD ONLY BE RUN SO FAR WITHOUT A PIER TO STABILIZE IT. I DON'T THINK WE WOULD HAVE ANY PROBLEMS STRUCTURALLY. WE WOULD, WE WOULD REINFORCE THE WALL AND SIX FOOT. WE CAN DO THAT WITHOUT CONCERN OVER CONSTRUCTION. AND IT'S THE PIERS AREN'T JUST STRUCTURAL, BUT THERE'S AN ESTHETIC TO IT. WE LOOK AT IT FROM THE OUTSIDE, YOUR GARDEN ON THE INSIDE. WE HAVE NO. PURVIEW OVER. SO I, I THINK THERE SHOULD BE MORE, IN MY OPINION, IN MR. MALLIS TELL ME IF I'M WRONG AND GEORGIAN TIDEWATER GEORGIAN VERNACULAR OF THIS ENTIRE STRUCTURE.

SHOULD THERE BE SHOULD THERE IT IT WOULD CERTAINLY SEEM LIKE A PROPER WAY TO TERMINATE THE WALL. I MEAN, ONE COMPROMISE MIGHT BE TO SIMPLY APPLY THAT APPLY THAT TO THE EXTERIOR. SO PROVIDE A FOUR INCH STEP OUT AT THE CORNER, 24IN BACK FROM EITHER CORNER. LET THE LET THE LIMESTONE CAP THICKEN AT THE TOP. IT'LL OBVIOUSLY BE HOLLOW ON THE BACKSIDE, BUT FROM THE

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OUTSIDE IT WOULD RESOLVE THE ISSUE IN A RELATIVELY SIMPLE WAY. I THINK THAT'S A VERY GOOD IDEA. I THINK WE COULD DO THAT, AND THEN YOU CAN JUST KEEP THE INSIDE TIGHT. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH, I THINK THAT WOULD BE MY MY MY CONCERN. DON'T ASK ME TO REPEAT THIS WHEN WE TRY TO MAKE IT. OH YOU HAVE TO. YOU ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO. THIS IS YOUR THIS IS YOUR MOTION. WELL, IF YOU'D LIKE. I'M JUST HERE FOR CREATIVE FRUSTRATION. YOU WANT TO SKETCH IT? WE'LL JUST ASK THE REPORT. THANK YOU. THAT'S A GREAT SUGGESTION. AND IF I COULD MENTION ONE THING ABOUT THE MARY STATUE. THE MARY STATUE IS GOING TO BE A LIFE SIZE BRONZE STATUE THAT A DONOR HAS STEPPED UP TO HAVE, HAND CRAFTED BY A LOCAL SCULPTOR. SO IT'S ACTUALLY A VERY EXCITING PROCESS AND IT'S GOING TO BE ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL. THE WHOLE THEME OF THE STATUE, MARY AND GRACE, IS ACTUALLY PART OF THE DESIGN, SO IT'LL BE VERY EXCITING TO SEE. AND THE PAVILION IS TO GIVE HER MORE PROMINENCE AND ALSO TO CREATE A FOCAL POINT WITH THE PRAYER GARDEN. SHE'S A LOCAL ARTIST. ALL OF OUR STATUES HAVE BEEN BRONZE INSIDE, AND WE'LL JUST BRING THE BRONZE OUTSIDE. THAT'S RIGHT. SO WHAT CAN JUST SO WE HAVE A FLAVOR OF WHERE DO WE STAND AGAIN IF WE, MR. MALLETT'S PROPOSAL AND THE APPLICANT HAS BEEN RECEPTIVE TO IT, IS TO REPLACE THE LIMESTONE WITH BRICK. BUT I THINK TO RETAIN THE FIVE OPENINGS. IS THAT YOUR PROPOSAL? YEAH. I MEAN, I IF THE, IF THE OPENINGS ARE OF PROGRAMMATIC IMPORTANCE, I WOULD JUST SAY FRAME THEM IN BRICK RATHER THAN LIMESTONE. OKAY. AND LOOKING AT OTHER BOARD MEMBERS, I MEAN, I CAN I THINK THE FACT THAT THEY'RE BRICK, THEY'RE, THEY'RE LESS OBJECTIONABLE TO ME, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE STILL OBJECTIONABLE. AND THEN THE SECOND AND I LIKE MR. MALLETT'S. AND SO, MR. MALLETT'S, ARE YOU SAYING THAT THAT THE, THE THAT YOU WOULD RETAIN, YOU WOULD THAT WHAT YOU WOULD DO ON THE CORNER IS TO BASICALLY HAVE A PUSH OUT AND BRICK. YEAH, I'LL, I'LL DO IT. YEAH. IF I COULD BRING UP A POINT ON THE IF WE GO BACK TO THE DRAWING ELEVATION OF THE FENCE. SO I ACTUALLY DON'T THE OPENINGS DON'T BOTHER ME TOO MUCH. AND LOOKING AT THE PORTION HERE AND I THINK IT APPEARS MORE SO IN THE RENDERINGS, BUT THESE PIERS APPEAR TO BE THICKER TO ALLOW FOR THAT OPENING. AND I JUST, I FEEL LIKE THE OPENINGS UP TOP ARE WHAT BOTHER ME, NOT NECESSARILY THE OPENINGS BELOW.

I AGREE WITH THAT. SO I FEEL LIKE IT WOULD BE A STRONGER YES PRESENCE HERE WITH NO OPENINGS THIN TO A PURE PROPORTION THAT WAS MORE IN LINE WITH THE OTHER PIERS WITH THE. YEAH, AND I JUST, I FEEL LIKE THAT WOULD AND YOU'VE GOT, YOU'VE GOT, YOU'VE GOT THE WHOLE GRADING THERE THAT GIVES YOU THE OPENING THAT YOU NEED BECAUSE THOSE, THOSE OPENINGS DON'T DO ANYTHING FOR, YOU KNOW. SO MR. DAVID, YOU'RE SUGGESTING A RUN UP AND MAKE THAT MORE NARROW APPEAR WITHOUT A WINDOW. YES. YEAH. AND I THINK IT WOULD I THINK IT WOULD STRENGTHEN THE DESIGN. AND I AGREE ABOUT THE CORNER TREATMENT AS WELL. I THINK THAT THOSE ITEMS COMBINED ARE. YES. FOR FOR THOSE THAT CAN READ MY CHICKEN SCRATCH ON THAT, THAT'S WHAT I WAS REFERRING TO. YEAH THAT THAT I CAN I CAN GET THERE AT THE ARCH. WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT. AND YOU JUST MADE MY DETAILING EASIER. SO YEAH, I THINK IT WILL I THINK IT WILL. AND WE LOWERED YOUR COST BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT ROUND MONEY AT THIS POINT. SO I THINK WE'RE SAYING APPROVED WITH MR. MALLETT'S BUMP OUT OF FOUR. YOU SAID FOUR INCHES MINIMUM, FOUR INCHES MINIMUM FOUR INCH BUMP OUT AT THE CORNER TO SIMULATE A PIER TO TAKE THE TO NARROW THE THE THE TO NARROW THE ARCH SO THAT THERE IS A PIER OF OF OF A WIDTH THAT IS PROPORTIONATE TO THE OTHER OTHER LOCATIONS IN THE COUNTRY CLUB COMMUNITY, SUBJECT TO STAFF APPROVAL, AND ALSO TO THEN SUBJECT TO STAFF APPROVAL. CONSIDER WHETHER THE PIERS TO THE ENTRANCE ARE THEN ARE THEN ALSO NARROWED, AND FINALLY TO REMOVE THE LIMESTONE ON THE REMAINING THREE LOCATIONS AND REPLACE THAT WITH BRICK. AND I WOULD REQUEST AT LEAST A STRONG PREFERENCE FOR COPPER ON THE PAVILION IN LIEU OF STANDING SEAM METAL. I THINK WE CAN COMMIT TO THAT. OKAY.

THANK YOU. AND WE AND WE CONFIRMED IT'S BRICK ARCH. AND JUST TO MENTION ALSO THE BRICK IS GOING TO BE THE SAME BRICK THAT HAS BEEN ALREADY APPROVED BY THE PARISH COMMUNITY CENTER

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AND THE PARISH THE SAME ORDER. WANT ME TO TRY SOMETHING? YEAH, PLEASE. MR. RYAN, SORRY. BEFORE YOU GUYS MOVE ON, JUST KNOW THAT THE CONDITION IN THE STAFF REPORT RIGHT NOW DOES HAVE THEM CHANGING THAT CUTOUT. SO JUST TO BE MODIFIED WHEN YOU MAKE YOUR CONDITIONS. YEAH. AND THEN IF EVERYTHING IS SUBJECT TO CITY ARCHITECT APPROVAL. ALL RIGHT. YOU CAN REFERENCE. YOU CAN ALWAYS REFERENCE THE EAST ELEVATION COLUMNS HERE. OKAY. THE CORNER SHOULD MIMIC THE EAST ELEVATION IN WIDTH AND SCALE. POINT. ALL RIGHT. SO I WOULD MOVE TO APPROVE OR A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR APPLICATION RB 67 2025 WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS. THE APPLICANT MUST REVISE THE DESIGN AND DRAWINGS FOR THE CITY ARCHITECT'S COMMENTS AND RENDERING PROVIDED, SUBJECT TO STAFF APPROVAL. ONE. THE MATERIAL CHOICE FOR THE ARCH IN THE BRICK WALL IS BRICK AND IS CLEARLY AND IS CLEARLY SHOWN IN THE SUBMITTED MATERIALS. AND THE DESIGN FOR THE CUTOUTS. THE THREE CUTOUTS IN THE LOWER PORTION OF THE BRICK WALL ARE CHANGED TO BRICK IN A CIRCLE, RATHER THAN LIMESTONE. THAT. THE. THAT THE THAT WHAT IS NOW A VERY LARGE PIER ON EITHER SIDE OF THE ARCH BE NARROWED TO A PIER THAT HAS THE DIMENSIONS AND PROPORTIONS THAT IS COMMONLY USED WITHIN THE NEW ALBANY COUNTRY CLUB COMMUNITY, SUBJECT TO STAFF APPROVAL THAT THE SAME PROPORTIONS BE REVIEWED, SUBJECT TO STAFF APPROVAL OF THE EAST ELEVATION PIERS ON EITHER SIDE OF THE ENTRANCE, AND THAT ON THE CORNERS OF THE PROPERTY THAT THERE BE A MINIMUM FOUR INCH BUMP OUT, AND THE PROPORTIONS OF THAT ALSO BE CONSISTENT WITH PIERS IN NEW ALBANY COUNTRY CLUB COMMUNITY, SUBJECT TO STAFF APPROVAL, AND THE BRICK ROOF AND MORTAR COLORS. IS THERE REALLY? I GUESS THERE'S A ROOF. WELL, THE BRICK ROOF, ROOF AND MORTAR COLORS SHALL BE WITHIN THE SAME COLOR FAMILY AS THE EXISTING CHURCH. IF LIGHTING IS ADDED, IT MUST BE CUT OFF FIXTURES AND DOWNCAST DESIGNS, PREVENTING SPILLAGE BEYOND THE SITE'S BOUNDARIES AND MATCHING THE EXISTING LIGHT FEATURES CURRENTLY ON THE SITE. SUBJECT TO STAFF APPROVAL. AND FINALLY, THAT THE ROOFING MATERIAL OF THE PERGOLA PAVILION. THE PAVILION BE COPPER. CAN I ADD ONE THING THAT THE THE HOLES ARE REMOVED FROM THOSE TWO PIERS? YES. ON THE BY THE THE PIERS ON THE ON THE ARCH THEY DO ARE OF COURSE NARROWED AND THEREFORE THEY HAVE NO OPENINGS. HOW'D I DO? I'LL SECOND. RUSH THE SECOND. IS THAT MR. HENSON ON THE SECOND? YES. THANK YOU. MR. ITEM. YES, MR. HENSON? YES, MISS MOORE? YES, MR. STROLLER? YES, MR. DAVEY. YES, MR. MALIK.

YES, YES. MOTION PASSES WITH SIX VOTES IN FAVOR, SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS IN THE STAFF REPORT, AS MODIFIED BY MR. EISNER. AND ADDED BY MR. ISAAC. THANK YOU. CONGRATULATIONS. THE ABLE ASSISTANCE OF THE BOARD. YES. OUR NEXT CASE IS ARB 54 2025 FOR THE NEW ALBANY ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. THE APPLICANT IS VICTORIA NEWELL SHAW ARCHITECTS. CAN WE HAVE STAFF REPORT, PLEASE? YES. GREAT. THE SITE IS LOCATED NORTH OF FOSTER ROAD AND EAST AND SOUTH OF SWICKARD WOOD ROADS. THE SITE IS MADE UP OF TWO PROPERTIES CONTAINING BALL FIELDS AND ASSOCIATED STRUCTURES, AND THESE WILL BE REMOVED AS PART OF THE PROJECT.

JUST FOR A BRIEF BACKGROUND, IN MAY, THE APPLICANT PRESENTED THIS INFORMATION INFORMALLY, AND THE BOARD FELT THAT THE EARLY SCHOOL DESIGN DIDN'T REFLECT NEW ALBANY'S CHARACTER.

THEY BROUGHT IT BACK IN JUNE. THE BOARD MEMBERS FELT THE REVISIONS WERE MORE CONSISTENT WITH COMMUNITY DESIGN PRINCIPLES AND AN IMPROVEMENT OVER PRIOR ITERATIONS. SO THE SITE INCLUDES A TWO STORY STRUCTURE. IT IS PROPOSED ELEMENTARY SCHOOL THAT WILL HOUSE KINDERGARTEN THROUGH SECOND GRADE AND INCLUDE 63 CLASSROOM SPACES AND ASSOCIATED SUPPORT SPACES FOR EDUCATIONAL PURPOSES. THERE ARE THREE CURB CUTS. THERE'S A FULL ACCESS OFF

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SWISHER WOODS ROAD. THERE'S A GATED ACCESS OFF OF SWISHER RIDGE WOODS ROAD THAT IS A MOUTHFUL TO SAY, AND THEN A BUS AND SERVICE ACCESS OFF OF FOSTER ROAD, WHICH IS GATED.

HIGH QUALITY MATERIALS SUCH AS BRICK VENEER, CAST STONE AND CHARCOAL SINGLES ARE PROPOSED, CONSISTENT WITH OTHER NEW ALBANY CIVIC BUILDINGS, THE PLAN PROVIDES A CENTRAL APPROACH DRIVE, PEDESTRIAN CROSSWALK, AND LARGE FRONT GREEN THAT CREATE A FORMAL AND WELCOMING ENTRY, WHILE THE ENTRANCE FACES WHICKER WOODS BOULEVARD INSTEAD OF FOSTER ROAD. THE ORIENTATION OF WOODS, WETLANDS, AND WOODED AREAS, AND STILL PROVIDES A PROMINENT TRADITIONAL CIVIC ENTRY WITH COLUMNS, A PEDIMENT, ARCHED WINDOW, FRENCH BALCONY, AND CUPOLA. THE DESIGN MAINTAINS A BALANCED PROPORTION, WITH SYMMETRICAL WINGS, ROOF FORM AND VERTICALLY ORIENTED WINDOWS, REFLECTING THE INTENT OF THE DESIGN GUIDELINES. THE CITY ARCHITECT CONFIRMED THAT THE DESIGN FITS WITH THE NEW ALBANY CAMPUS, AND COMMENDED THE APPLICANT FOR A THOUGHTFUL, WELL DETAILED PLAN. THE SITE WILL ALSO INCLUDE A PLAYGROUND, TURF AREA AND REROUTED WALKING PATH CONNECTING TO THE BROADER CAMPUS. AND HERE IS JUST AN ELEVATION ON THE FRONT AS WELL AS THE MATERIALS. AND HERE IS THE ELEVATIONS ON THE EAST, WEST, NORTH AND SOUTH. THE APPLICANT DOES HAVE A PRESENTATION THAT HAS AN COMPREHENSIVE ELEVATION. SO I JUST ADDED A COUPLE IN HERE. AND THEN HERE IS JUST THE FRONT AND THE BACK OF THE SCHOOL. THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED A PARKING STATEMENT INDICATING A TOTAL OF 200 SPACES, 176 SPACES FOR EVERYDAY USE AND 24 SPACES FOR SPECIAL EVENTS. THE PARKING CALCULATION IS BASED ON TWO SPACES PER CLASSROOM EMPLOYEES AND VISITORS, AND WITH A RECOGNIZING THAT ELEMENTARY STUDENTS ARE NON DRIVERS. ADDITIONALLY, STAFF HAS INCLUDED A CONDITION THAT THE SITE WILL ALSO INCLUDE EIGHT BICYCLE HITCHES AND COMPLIANCE WITH THE URBAN CENTER CODE. FOR LANDSCAPING. AGAIN, IT IS DESIGNED TO NOT DISTURB THE HEAVILY WOODED AND WETLAND AREAS. IT INCLUDES 7759FT■!S OF LANDSCAPED AREA WHICH MEETS THE CODE REQUIREMENTS. IT ALSO INCLUDES 20 PARKING LOT TREES AND 51 ON SITE TREES, WHICH ALSO MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS. AND THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT DID HAVE A FEW MINOR COMMENTS, AND THOSE ARE REFERENCED IN THE STAFF REPORT. IN TERMS OF THE URBAN CENTER CODE COMPLIANCE, THE SITE MEETS THEM AGAIN AS IT'S HEAVILY WOODED. THERE ARE LARGE SETBACKS. MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT IS ALL SCREENED MINUS THE ADDITIONAL PLANTINGS THAT THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT ASKED FOR. IN SUMMARY, THE PROPOSED BUILDING DESIGN ALIGNS WITH NEW ALBANY STANDARDS FOR CONTEXT, LOCATION AND FUNCTION. ADDITIONALLY, THE BUILDING BLENDS WITH THE EXISTING CIVIC BUILDINGS IN THE AREA. THE SITE PLAN AVOIDS IMPACTS TO SENSITIVE AREAS AND PRESERVES NATURAL FEATURES AND OVERALL SUPPORTS THE FOUR PILLARS OF THE CITY, WHICH INCLUDE LIFELONG LEARNING, HEALTH AND WELLNESS, ARTS AND CULTURE, AND ENVIRONMENTAL SUSTAINABILITY.

AND I'M HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. THE APPLICANT. THANK YOU. SURE. ARCHITECTS. ARE EXCITED TO HEAR YOUR PROPOSAL HERE THIS EVENING. FORGIVE ME, I'M VICKI NEWEL FROM ARCHITECTS.

THIS SCREEN I THINK YOU JUST CLICK IT. WE JUST HAD A BRIEF PRESENTATION. LET ME SEE. YEAH.

JUST OVERALL SITE PLAN. NOTHING DIFFERENT THAN WHAT IS IN IN YOUR PACKAGE. I WANTED TO SPEAK JUST BRIEFLY IN TERMS OF THE GATES. THIS GATE THAT IS UP HERE IS INTENDED. TEACHERS AND STAFF WOULD NORMALLY COME INTO THE BUILDING. THEY WOULD TYPICALLY BE PARKING IN THESE PARKING SPACES OVER HERE. SO THIS GATE WAS ENVISIONED TO BE TO REGULATE BUS TRAFFIC THROUGH THE SITE SO THAT BUSSES CAN ENTER, PARK, UNLOAD AND RETURN, AND THAT PARENTS THEN WOULD NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO CIRCULATE. SO THESE GATES WOULD BE CLOSED SO THAT PARENTS WOULD COME IN, THEY WOULD CIRCULATE AND EXIT BACK OUT. THAT DRIVE. THIS IS GATED BECAUSE THIS IS INTENDED TO BE NOTHING MORE THAN BUS SERVICE DRIVE. AND THEN FOR SPECIAL EVENTS, THE PARKING SPACES HERE ARE DUAL STRIPES SO THAT THEY CAN GET ADDITIONAL ADDITIONAL PARKING FOR AFTER SCHOOL EVENTS. PARENT TEACHER CONFERENCE NIGHT, THINGS LIKE THAT. AND IN THAT INSTANT, THIS GATE WOULD BE OPEN SO THAT THOSE AREAS COULD BE UTILIZED. FLOOR PLANS OF THE BUILDING

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HAVE REALLY NOT CHANGED SINCE THEIR LAST PRESENTATION THAT WE HAD FOR PRELIMINARY SECOND FORM.

ROUGH PLAN. SORRY, WE DO HAVE A MECHANICAL WELL THAT'S FULLY SCREENED IN THE ROOF AREA. SO OUR FRESH OUR MECHANICAL EXHAUST GOES INTO THAT ROCKWELL FOOD SERVICE EXHAUST GOES INTO THAT ROOF. WELL, THERE ARE A FEW PIECES OF MECHANICAL IN IT THAT ALL OF IT WILL BE NON-VISIBLE. THESE ARE THE SAME ELEVATIONS. AND THEN I TRIED TO DO BASICALLY THE RENDERINGS.

THEY'RE THE SAME RENDERINGS THAT ARE IN YOUR PACKET JUST TO WALK AROUND THE BUILDING AND GIVE YOU AS MANY VIEWS AS POSSIBLE OF WHAT WE PERCEIVE THE BUILDING WILL LOOK LIKE.

WE'LL SEE. THIS IS THE MAIN ENTRANCE. WHEN YOU'RE APPROACHING THE SCHOOL A LITTLE BIT MORE IN DETAIL. THIS IS THE FRONT PORCH THAT'S IN HERE THAT IS INTENDED TO BE. CAPSTONE.

THE CAPSTONE SAMPLES THAT ARE IN IN THE COLOR PACKET. JUST OVERALL, AS YOU START TO WALK AROUND THE BUILDING, THERE'S CAPSTONE DETAILING KEYSTONES IN THE ARCHES IN SEVERAL SEVERAL MAIN AREAS OF THE BUILDING. WALKING AROUND THE SIDE, THIS IS THE COURTYARD AREA. THE ARCH AREA THAT IS BACK HERE IS DESIGNED TO BE AN OUTDOOR LEARNING SPACE. IT WILL BE FURNISHED AND UTILIZED BY STUDENTS, BUT IT'S COMPLETELY COVERED. THIS ARE THE FRESH AIR INTAKES THAT WE HAVE INTO A MECHANICAL ROOM THAT'S ON THE SECOND FLOOR, AND THEY'RE THE EXACT SIZE IN NEAR THE WINDOW OPENINGS THAT ARE ON THE FIRST FLOOR OF THE AREA AT THAT LOCATION. THERE'S A SIMILAR TREATMENT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BUILDING. COURTYARD. THEN COMING AROUND THE REAR OF THE BUILDING. AGAIN. THIS FEATURE IS MEANT TO MIMIC THE FRENCH PORCH ON THE FRONT, SO THEY WOULD BE IDENTICAL. AND THIS IS THERE'S A PATHWAY THAT RUNS THROUGH THE WETLANDS AREA. IT'S SHOWN ON THE SITE PLAN. SO THIS IS THE PERCEIVED VIEW THAT YOU WOULD HAVE OF THE SCHOOL. SO MUCH OF THE BACK IS GOING TO BE COVERED FROM THE VEGETATION AND THE TREE GROWTH. THERE'LL BE A LOT OF STUDENTS COMING FROM I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT. COMING FROM TOWN CENTER OF TOWN TO THE SCHOOLS ALONG THAT PATHWAY, WILL THEY BE ABLE TO GET INTO THE SCHOOL USING THE BACK DOOR, OR WON'T EVERYONE HAVE TO GO IN THROUGH THE FRONT DOOR? IT JUST KIND OF IT'S ENTICING THEM TO COME IN THE BACK DOOR, YOU KNOW. MICHAEL SUPERINTENDENT, IT COULD BE USED AFTER SCHOOL HOURS WITH THE PLAYGROUND. IT'LL BE ACCESSIBLE TO THE COMMUNITY AND THE TURF FIELD THAT WILL BE THERE AS WELL FOR ALSO PLAY PURPOSES. SO WE ENVISION THAT FAMILIES COULD COME OVER FROM THE HIGH SCHOOL COMING THROUGH THAT BACK PATH AS IT EXISTS TODAY INTO THAT PROPERTY, BUT TYPICALLY NOT FOR STUDENT ARRIVAL. IF THEY DID COME IN AND THEY RIDE THEIR BIKES TO SCHOOL, THEY CAN COME THROUGH THE PATH, BUT THEY'RE JUST GOING TO CIRCLE AROUND TO THE OTHER SIDE. RIGHT NOW WHERE WE PUT THE BIKE RACKS, WE HAVE NOT PUT ANY ON THE BACK SIDE. AND THE BIKE RACK I NOTICED WAS EIGHT SEEMS. YEAH, IT SEEMS LIKE NOT ENOUGH GIVEN AS MANY BIKES AS I SEE AROUND THERE. THIS IS THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BUILDING WHERE OUR MECHANICAL COURTYARD IS GOING. A LITTLE BIT BETTER HERE THAN HERE. SO IN THIS IMAGE WE AGREE WITH ALL OF THE CONDITIONS FOR LANDSCAPING. AND OBVIOUSLY WE WERE GOING TO SCREEN THE MECHANICAL YARD. AND THEN THIS JUST BASICALLY TAKES YOU BACK AROUND TO THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING. SO I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE. TIFFANY. COMMENTS I HAVE ONE COMMENT. IT LOOKS IT LOOKS GREAT. THE FRENCH BALCONY THAT'S COVERED AT THIS IMAGE HERE IS IS GREAT BECAUSE IT'S COVERED. I LOVE HOW THE OTHER ONE LOOKS ON THE EXTERIOR SIDE THAT'S NOT COVERED, BUT I THERE'S A COUPLE OF THOSE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT ARE ROTTING REALLY BADLY. SO I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHAT MATERIAL OR

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WHAT. SO THAT'S WHY I WAS PROPOSING AS OPPOSED TO SOME OTHER MATERIALS THAT WE WOULD USE FOR THAT PURPOSE. PERFECT. I THINK THE HIGH SCHOOL HAS ONE THAT'S ROTTING AWAY. IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY. YEAH. NO. THAT'S GREAT. OKAY. THANK YOU. I, I REVIEWED THE PLANS AND THE WHOLE PACKAGE IN DETAIL. I WOULD OFFER UP THAT THE FROM FROM A SITE PLAN PERSPECTIVE.

I'M BROADLY SUPPORTIVE OF HOW THE THE DESIGN HAS PROGRESSED. I THINK THE, THE THE LAYOUT OF THE BUILDING AND ITS RESPONSE TO THE SITE IS CERTAINLY AN IMPROVEMENT OVER, OVER SOME OF THE EARLY VERSIONS THAT THAT CAME BEFORE THE BOARD. SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, FOR ME SEEMS TO BE REASONABLY RESOLVED. THE I WOULD SAY THE SAME, GENERALLY SPEAKING, ABOUT THE MASSING WHICH I KNOW YOU PRESENTED AT THE LAST MEETING. I THINK THE HIERARCHY OF MASSING AND THE GENERAL LAYOUT SEEMS TO BE APPROPRIATELY DESIGNED. SO I WOULD ALSO BE SUPPORTIVE OF THAT. I THINK MOST OF THE COMMENTS THAT I HAVE ARE PERTAINING TO DETAILING ON THE ELEVATIONS. I DID MAKE A LIST OF THINGS I'D LIKE TO ASK FOR SOME CONSIDERATION ON. I THINK I'LL IF IT'S OKAY WITH THE BOARD, I'LL. I'LL RUN THROUGH THESE. THERE'S THERE'S 12 ITEMS AND I IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND GOING TO THE NORTH ELEVATION, I CAN JUST POINT THEM OUT. I'M HAPPY TO DISCUSS THEM FURTHER. I WON'T PROVIDE, YOU KNOW, DRAWINGS AND MARKUPS TO THEM. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SOME GENERAL REMARKS ABOUT THINGS THAT I THINK COULD BE IMPROVED AS THE PROJECT GOES INTO TO ITS FINAL STATE OF PERMIT APPROVAL. ELEVATION WORK FOR YOU. YOU DON'T HAVE THE 2D VERSIONS ON THE PRESENTATION. ARE THEY THE 2D VERSIONS? THE THE, THE ELEVATIONS RATHER THAN THE RENDERS? IF YOU HAVE THOSE, THAT WOULD BE. WELL, I GUESS IT DEPENDS ON THE SCALE. I CAN I DON'T I DON'T HAVE IT SINGLE. THE WAIT STAFF LET ME DO MY BEST BETWEEN THIS IMAGE AND MAYBE THE RENDERING. IF YOU. THE ONLY REASON I DIDN'T WANT TO COMMENT ON THE RENDERING IS. I THINK THERE'S SOME INCONSISTENCIES, SMALL AS THEY MAY BE WITH THE ELEVATIONS, BUT I'LL KIND OF REMARK ON WHY DON'T WE GO BACK TO THAT? AND I CAN PROBABLY PROVIDE MY COMMENTS MORE READILY HERE. SO ACTUALLY THE PREVIOUS IMAGE WAS EVEN BETTER. THANK YOU. OOPS. THERE YOU GO. GOOD, GOOD. I THINK I CAN COVER MOST OF MY COMMENTS ON THIS, EVEN THOUGH THEY MIGHT NOT BE VISIBLE TO THE TO THE BOARD. IF YOU REFERENCE THE NORTH ELEVATION, YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE REMARKS I HAD. SO I'LL JUST RUN THROUGH THESE. THESE ARE ALL FOR THE MOST PART, I'M TRYING TO COMMENT ON THINGS THAT I WOULD REGARD AS OBJECTIVE CRITERIA FOR CLASSICAL OR GEORGIAN DETAILING, YOU KNOW, RATHER THAN MY OWN SUBJECTIVE VIEWS OF THAT. SO LET ME START WITH JUST A GENERAL REMARK ABOUT THE FENESTRATION AND THE OVERALL LAYOUT OF WINDOWS, AND SPECIFICALLY THE THE DIVIDED LIGHTS. I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT THE DIVIDED LIGHTS MAINTAIN SIMILAR PROPORTION ACROSS ALL WINDOW OPENINGS. SO IF YOU'RE GOING WITH A SLIGHTLY WHAT I WOULD DESCRIBE IN LAY TERMS AS A PORTRAIT STYLE, DIVIDED LIGHT, WHERE IT'S ABOUT THE EQUIVALENT OF AN EIGHT ONE HALF BY 11 PIECE OF PAPER, THEN ALL THE OTHER DIVIDED LIGHTS, PARTICULARLY AT THE ENTRY, SHOULD FOLLOW THE SAME LIGHT CUT PATTERN. WHAT I SEE HAPPENING ON THE ELEVATIONS RIGHT NOW IS THERE'S A LOT OF STRETCHING SO THAT CAN BE RESOLVED WITH JUST, YOU KNOW, REVIEW OF THE WINDOW, THE WINDOW DRAWINGS THEMSELVES. BUT THAT'S A FAIRLY IMPORTANT ONE. SECOND, STAYING ON THE WINDOWS, I BELIEVE THE JACK ARCHES NEED TO BE PROPERLY SCALED UP TO MATCH THE SCALE OF THE BUILDING. RIGHT NOW YOU HAVE A LOOKS LIKE A THREE QUARTERS JACK ARCH. THOSE PROBABLY NEED TO BE A SIX COURSE JACK ARCH TO MATCH THE SCALE OF THE OVERALL BUILDING. SO THOSE SHOULD BE SPLAYED AND THE BRICK SHOULD BE SPLIT. JUST STANDARD DETAILING ON THAT. YOU KNOW, I DON'T HAVE ANY OBJECTION TO THE KEYSTONES, ALTHOUGH THE ELEVATIONS ARE A BIT MISLEADING ON THE SECONDARY ELEMENTS. IT MIGHT HAVE JUST BEEN LINEWORK THAT WAS OVERLAPPING. I BELIEVE YOUR INTENTION IS TO ONLY HAVE KEYSTONES ON THE ON THE PRIMARY ELEMENTS HERE, HERE AND HERE. OKAY, IT IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT. THIS IS DONE IN THREE DIMENSIONAL SOFTWARE. IT I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU. IT DOESN'T THE SOFTWARE DOESN'T REALLY LIKE JACK ARCHES. SO IT'S VERY HARD TO ILLUSTRATE THEM. PROBABLY JUST NEEDS TO BE BLOWN UP AS A DETAIL. BUT REGARDLESS, I THINK THAT NEEDS A LITTLE BIT OF ATTENTION AS WELL AS A ROWLOCK SILL, THE SILLS SEEM TO BE ABSENT ON THE ELEVATION, SO A PROPER SILL AND AND JACK ARCH AND ALL THE WINDOWS. CONSIDERING THE STYLE THAT YOU'VE, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU'VE GONE TO, I THINK IS IS DEFINITELY APPROPRIATE. THE THE CORNERS, AT LEAST ON THE FRONT PRIMARY MASS. I CONSIDER BRICK QUOINS. I'M NOT SAYING THAT THAT HAS TO BE, BUT I WOULD CONSIDER BRICK QUOINS ON THE THE TWO CORNERS HERE. I WILL

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KIND OF REMAIN SILENT ON THE REST OF THE ELEVATION, BUT SOMETHING I THINK WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR THE SCALE. THE BANDING COURSES SHOULD BE POTENTIALLY REVISITED. SOLDIER COURSING FOR THE INTERMEDIATE BAND COURSE IS PROBABLY NOT THE RIGHT DECISION. I'D PROBABLY RECOMMEND A THREE COURSE ROWLOCK. IT WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO DO SO. I KNOW THE TRADITIONAL THREE COURSE. I'VE LOOKED AT A LOT OF BUILDINGS IN NEW ALBANY. I'VE SEEN SOME TREATED WITH THE SOLDIER COURSE THERE AS OPPOSED TO THREE. AND YEAH, I THINK IT WOULD. I AM PERSONALLY, I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND. THANK YOU. AND THEN SAME ON THE, ON THE BASE I, I DO THINK A PROPER WATER TABLE SIMILAR TO THIS BUILDING AT THE BASE IN LIEU OF A DOUBLE BAND IS PROBABLY THE RIGHT ANSWER THAT CAN BE DONE WITHOUT EVEN A FOUNDATION MODIFICATION, BUT IT PROBABLY NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT. IT'S THE IT'S A BIG BUILDING, AND I DON'T MEAN THAT IN A GOOD OR BAD WAY. IT'S JUST A IT'S A BIG BUILDING AND I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE PROPERLY GROUNDED FROM A DETAIL STANDPOINT. CAN I YOU MIND IF I GO AHEAD. I'M GOING TO GO TO THE END. IS THAT TOOK I TOOK SOME PICTURES OFF OF THE EXISTING SCHOOL. THESE ARE GOING TO ACTUALLY BE AFTER.

THANK YOU. ONE MORE. SO I THINK YOU CAN SEE IT IN HERE. THIS IS WHAT TO ADDRESS I WOULD PROPOSE WE'RE DOING TWO COURSES THAT STEP OUT. THERE'S ONLY ONE OF THE SCHOOLS ON THEIR SITE THAT HAS A TRUE OGEE WATER CURVE TO IT. AND FOR THAT TO ACCOMMODATE IT I HAVE TO HAVE A BIGGER FOUNDATION. SO IT REALLY STARTS TO ESCALATE. NOT NECESSARILY. YOU CAN IT CAN BE DONE WITHOUT, WHICH WAS MY COMMENT, BECAUSE IT'S REALLY ONLY CARRYING THE FIRST, YOU KNOW, ROUGHLY TWO AND A HALF TO THREE FEET OF BRICK THAT CAN BE DONE WITHOUT HAVING TO ENLARGE THE FOUNDATION. FAIR ENOUGH THAT THAT IS A DIFFERENT CONVERSATION, BUT I CAN TELL YOU IT IT CERTAINLY HAS BEEN DONE. SO I'LL, I'LL I'LL COMMENT ON IT AND LEAVE IT, LEAVE IT THERE FOR, FOR OTHERS TO, TO WEIGH IN ON. BUT I APPRECIATE YOU SHARING THESE PHOTOS. I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU IF I HAD STEEL STUD BACKUP. WE HAVE CMU BACKUP, WHICH IT'S GOING TO BE DIFFICULT TO ADDRESS THAT DETAIL, BUT YEAH, SURE, HAPPY TO ACCOMMODATE WHAT'S DETAILED IN THE OTHER SCHOOL BUILDINGS AND ACTUALLY SEE OKAY, I'LL CONTINUE ON.

THANK YOU. THE NEXT ITEM I WOULD SAY IF YOU WANT TO GO BACK TO THE MAIN ENTRY, PLEASE, SOME GENERAL REMARKS ABOUT THE THE MAIN ENTRY. FIRST, JUST AS A COMMENT OF MY REMARK A MOMENT AGO ABOUT THE RENDERING, THE THE ELEVATIONS APPEAR TO SHOW THIS PROPERLY, BUT THE THE CAPITALS OF THE COLUMNS SHOULD BE PROUD OF THE ENTABLATURE. SO IT LOOKS LIKE THAT WAS JUST PERHAPS A A RENDERING MISHAP. BUT FOR THE SAKE OF CLARITY, I BRING IT UP ONLY. BUT THESE COLUMN CAPS SHOULD BE PROUD OF THE ENTABLATURE ABOVE. I GUESS MY BIGGEST COMMENTS PERTAINING TO THE ENTRY. I DON'T HAVE OBJECTIONS TO THE PROPORTION AND SCALE OF THE OF THE DORIC COLUMNS. THEY'RE THEY'RE THIN BUT APPROPRIATE, BUT THE ENTABLATURE ITSELF SHOULD BE MINIMALLY EQUAL TO THE FRIEZE BEHIND, IDEALLY SLIGHTLY TALLER THAN. YOU HAVE AN OVERALL SCALE HERE FROM TIP TO TOE THAT IS GREATER THAN HERE TO HERE. I WOULD VERY IMPORTANT THAT THIS LINE RIGHT HERE BE MINIMALLY EQUAL TO THE BASE OF THE. OF THE FRIEZE BOARD BEHIND IT. IT ESTABLISHES THE PEDIMENT AS A MORE DIMINUTIVE OBJECT IN THE OVERALL ELEVATION. AND I THINK THAT'S EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT WE WOULD ALL BE EXPECTING. SO THAT NEEDS TO BE RAISED, IN MY OPINION. AND THEN ALSO THE TERMINATION OF THE PEDIMENT ROOF SHOULD LINE UP WITH THE OUTSIDE EDGE OF THE FASCIA. RIGHT NOW IT IT'S SHORT OF THAT. SO THAT NEEDS TO BE STUDIED FURTHER. AND THEN JUST A COUPLE OTHER REMARKS PERTAINING TO THIS. THE SUNBURST IS JUST SLIGHTLY MISPLACED. NEEDS TO BE A LITTLE BIT LOWER AND FRAMED OUT. I DID WANT TO ASK A QUESTION. IT APPEARS AS THOUGH IN THE ELEVATION THAT THIS IS REFERENCED AS STUCCO. IS THAT CORRECT? IF SO, I WOULD STRONGLY ENCOURAGE SIDING OR BRICK THERE. NO, I WAS PLANNING ON HAVING SIDING. OKAY. HORIZONTAL. YEAH, THAT THAT WOULD BE THE RIGHT, THE RIGHT CALL. AND THEN PICTURE FRAME THE SUNBURST THE. SO THE THE ENTABLATURE JUST NEEDS A LITTLE BIT OF ADJUSTMENT. AGAIN IN MY OPINION WHEN LOOKING AT THIS AGAINST THE CLASSICAL PROPORTIONS AND DETAILING. AND THEN ONE LAST REMARK IN THIS AREA, AND I JUST HAVE A COUPLE FEW MORE REMAINING COMMENTS. THE CUPOLA. THE CUPOLA IS A NICE FEATURE, BUT ONCE AGAIN

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THE DETAILING IS IS A BIT REVERSED. YOU'VE GOT A REALLY, REALLY STRONG INTERMEDIATE BAND AND A VERY, VERY DIMINISHED ROOF. THOSE NEED TO BE CONSIDERED TO BE REVERSED. THE BAND IS CERTAINLY IMPORTANT, BUT THAT REALLY NEEDS TO MOVE UP AND CAP THE CUPOLA PROPERLY AT THE TOP. I THINK IT COULD BE A NICE ELEMENT IF PROPERLY LIT, BUT IT JUST NEEDS SOME SOME REFINEMENT. TWO ADDITIONAL REMARKS BEYOND THOSE THAT I JUST SHARED. I THINK WHEN I LOOK AT THE OVERALL MASSING, PARTICULARLY ON THE SOUTH ELEVATION, IF YOU HAVE THAT RENDERING, I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT SEEMED A LITTLE OFF. AND IT'S THE, AGAIN, A RELATIVELY EASY SOLUTION IF IF OTHERS AGREE, IS THAT THE THE RIDGELINE OF THE SECONDARY MASSING ELEMENTS IS JUST YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF ROOF ON THE ON THE BUILDING, PARTICULARLY WHEN SEEN FROM A DISTANCE. THIS IS A BIT MORE OF A WIDE ANGLE SHOT, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE VIEWED LESS. SO I WOULD RECOMMEND TRUNCATING THE PEAKS OF THOSE ROOFS, PUTTING A FLAT TOP ACROSS THOSE VERY COMMON. IF YOU WERE TO GO LOOK AT REALLY ANY OF THE BUILDINGS ACROSS NEW ALBANY, IT'S GOING TO ALLOW YOU TO BRING THAT THAT ROOF MASSING DOWN A LITTLE BIT, AND IT'LL HELP RESOLVE SOME OF THOSE INTERSECTING POINTS WHERE YOU'VE GOT AN ELEVATION, FOR EXAMPLE, ON THE EAST ELEVATION, YOU'VE GOT THE THE ROOFLINE COMING TO A PEAK, BUT YOU'VE GOT A HORIZONTAL RIDGE BEYOND. IF YOU TRUNCATE THE TOPS OF THOSE ROOFS, IT WOULD REALLY KIND OF TIE THOSE TOGETHER AND CERTAINLY CAN BE DONE WITH A COMMON TRUST PACKAGE, YOU KNOW, FOR THOSE ROOF AREAS. BUT I THINK THAT WOULD HELP THE MASSING GET IT KIND OF RIGHT, RIGHT WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE. SO LAST COMMENT IS THERE'S A FEW CONDITIONS TO THE WEST AND TO THE SOUTH THAT HAVE BLANK PANELS BY THE STAIRWELLS TO THE NORTH, WHERE I THINK THE INTERVENTION OFFICES ARE, I WOULD AT LEAST ASK THAT THOSE BLANK ELEVATIONS BE TREATED WITH A FALSE WINDOW OPENING WITH A BRICK IN WINDOW. SO BASICALLY YOU'VE GOT THE JACK ARCH AND THE SILL AND A HERRINGBONE PATTERN WHERE THE WINDOW WOULD OTHERWISE HAVE BEEN. SORRY, I DON'T KNOW WHAT SECTION YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. IF YOU LOOK AT, I CAN ONLY REFERENCE IT IN THE ELEVATION. BUT FOR EXAMPLE, NORTH ELEVATION, EXTREME LEFT AND EXTREME RIGHT, THE TWO WHERE THE WHERE THE STAIRWELL IS. THERE'S TWO BLANK WALLS THERE.

SO ANYWHERE WHERE THERE'S A BLANK WALL YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT HERE. YEAH. TO PUT A TO PUT A BRICK IN, YOU KNOW, A FAULT, CALL IT A FALSE WINDOW JUST TO KIND OF COMPLETE THAT FOUR SIDED ARCHITECTURE. I KNOW THERE'S NOT A WINDOW THERE OR A BRICK. NO, NO, JUST A BRICK IN JUST A HERRINGBONE INSET BRICK PANEL. AGAIN, VERY COMMON DETAIL, VERY COMMON THROUGHOUT NEW ALBANY. SO I MEAN, THOSE ARE THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS. I TRYING TO FOCUS IN ON THE THINGS THAT I THINK WILL BE MOST IMPACTFUL. I MEAN, I AM AN ARCHITECT, I COULD GO ON FOR, FOR DAYS WITH LITTLE DETAILS. THAT'S NOT MY GOAL. IT'S JUST REALLY TO TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT'S BEING PRESENTED IS, IS MUCH IN STEP WITH WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. I'LL THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME WALK THROUGH THAT. I I'M CERTAINLY OPEN TO HEARING ANYONE ELSE'S COMMENTS FOR OR AGAINST MY REMARKS. I THINK THE SUGGESTION ABOUT THE ROOF IS A REALLY GOOD ONE. THERE IS PARTS WHERE THE ROOF FEELS THE SAME PROPORTION AS THE ACTUAL BUILDING ELEMENTS, AND AND I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT. I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT MAYBE TWO TWO ADDITIONAL THINGS ON. SOUTH ELEVATION OF AREA LOOKS LIKE D AND C, THERE'S TWO LARGE PICTURE WINDOWS, SORRY SOUTH ELEVATION AREA B AND C IT'S IT'S ON THE COURTYARD SIDE. SO IT MIGHT NOT BE AS EASY TO FIND, BUT THERE'S I THINK THERE'S THE CONDITION IS THAT THERE'S TWO LARGE WINDOWS WHERE IT LOOKS INTO THE STUDENT CAFETERIA AREA. AND THEN ADJACENT TO THAT THERE'S I, I DON'T HAVE A VIEW OF THAT FROM, BUT I DO KNOW WHERE YOU'RE TALKING. YEAH. SO IT'S THIS ONE. AND I JUST HAVE A HARD TIME WITH THE. SO THERE'S A SEMI-CIRCLE WINDOW ABOVE THE DOORS, BUT THEY'RE DISCONNECTED. IT JUST SOMETHING IT SEEMS OFF FOR. I KNOW IT FEELS LIKE IT'S TRYING TO MATCH THE LARGER WINDOWS TO THE SIDE, BUT IT ALMOST FEELS LIKE THE SEMICIRCLE WINDOWS THERE. I DON'T I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S NECESSARILY A GOOD VIEW OF IT BECAUSE OF THE SIDE THAT IT'S ON. IS TAKING UP. YEAH. IT DOESN'T SHOW UP IN THERE EITHER.

JUST SOMETHING IN THE PACKET. SO SOUTH ELEVATION AREA, RIGHT I HAD SEXUALIZATION. YEP. I HAVE NO PROBLEM MAKING THEM. YEAH. JUST I WOULD JUST GIVE IT A SECOND. THE OTHER TWO WINDOWS.

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WE WERE TRYING TO GET AS MUCH DAYLIGHT AS POSSIBLE INTO STUDENT DINING. YEAH. AND AND I'M, I THINK THERE'S A WAY TO DO SO THAT IT JUST FEELS LIKE IT'S, IT'S GOT A DISCONNECT TO IT. SO THAT WAS ONE. AND THEN. I, I LIKE THE BACK ELEVATION. I WITH THE CENTRAL ELEMENT. I AM WONDERING IF ADDITIONAL ROOF TREATMENT THERE IS NEEDED. MAYBE MAYBE NOT. THOUGHT ABOUT THAT. YEAH. YEAH. SO HERE WE'RE SEEING ELEVATION THREE. I COULD IMAGINE HAVING AN ADDITIONAL ROOF TREATMENT THAT'S SIMILAR TO THE SIDES THERE. THAT'S ALL FOR ME. I WASN'T SMART ENOUGH TO IDENTIFY THOSE THINGS, BUT ONCE MR. MALLET AND MR. DAVEY IDENTIFIED THEM, I THOUGHT, BOY, IF I WERE REALLY AN ARCHITECT, I WOULD IDENTIFY THOSE. AND I AGREE WITH WITH THE WITH WHAT THEY'RE SAYING. I TOO AGREE STRONGLY WITH THEIR COMMENTS. I THINK THE BUILDING COULD BENEFIT IT BEING THE MAIN ROAD THAT YOU'D BE DRIVING PAST ON THE SOUTH ELEVATION. ALTHOUGH THE SCHOOL DOESN'T FRONT THAT WAY, WE REALIZE. IS IT JUST A COST SAVINGS? IT'S COST SAVINGS.

I MEAN, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, THIS BUILDING HAS HAD INPUT FROM A NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS AND ENTITIES THAT ARE NOT ALIGNED WITH EACH OTHER AND WANT TO TAKE THIS BUILDING IN COMPLETELY DIFFERENT DIRECTION, SO IT'S HARD TO MARRY ALL OF THOSE COMMENTS WITH EVERYONE AND MAKE EVERYONE SATISFIED. SO IT'S LIKE HAVING A LOT OF TOO MANY BOSSES, QUITE HONESTLY, RIGHT? SO AM I HEARING I THINK WE HAVE ENOUGH. I DON'T KNOW HOW. I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU APPROVE THIS WITH CONDITIONS BECAUSE IT SEEMS. WELL, I GUESS I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF ON THAT. AND IN RESPONSE TO YOUR YOUR COMMENT AS WELL, HAS THIS I MEAN, AS I MENTIONED, I'M TRYING TO MAKE SURE AT LEAST MY COMMENTS AND ON BEHALF OF OUR BOARD THAT WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT THIS AS OBJECTIVELY AS WE CAN RATHER THAN STYLISTICALLY. BUT HAS THERE BEEN A REVIEW, AS HAS DAVID BULLOCK REVIEWED THIS? I KNOW THAT RAMZA, ON BEHALF OF NEW ALBANY COMPANY HAS BEEN REVIEWING THIS. ARE THOSE HAVE THOSE REVIEWS BEEN PROVIDED AND INCORPORATED? I JUST I GUESS I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU ARE IN THE PROCESS AT THIS POINT. SO WE SUBMITTED TO THEM FOR OUR PRELIMINARY REVIEW. WE HAVE NOT SUBMITTED BACK TO THEM FOR OUR FINAL REVIEW. OKAY.

OKAY. SO THEN WITH THAT IN MIND, AND IN RESPONSE TO MR. BIDEN'S QUESTIONS, I, I'M SENSITIVE TO THE REALITIES OF THE COMMUNITY NEEDS FOR THE SCHOOL ITSELF. I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WITH MAYBE SOME ARM WRESTLING OVER WATER TABLES, I THINK THAT NONE OF THESE COMMENTS HAVE ANY MATERIAL IMPACT ON THE FOOTPRINT, THE SITE LAYOUT, THE GENERAL STRUCTURE OF THE BUILDING AT ALL. I MEAN, IT CAN BE STRUCTURALLY ENGINEERED WITHOUT IMPACTING, YOU KNOW, THESE THINGS CAN BE ACCOMPLISHED WITHOUT IMPACTING THE THE STRUCTURAL ENGINEERING.

SO THE QUESTION FOR STAFF WOULD BE, IS THERE A WAY TO ADVANCE THE PROJECT, BUT STILL ENSURE THAT WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HELP RESOLVE THESE, THESE DETAILS IN A IN A CONSTRUCTIVE WAY? I'M CERTAINLY WILLING TO DO WHAT I'VE DONE, WHICH IS SCRIBBLE A LOT OF DRAWINGS ON A PAGE AND PASS THEM ALONG. BUT WHATEVER IS THE MOST EFFECTIVE WAY TO ACCOMPLISH THAT? WHAT ARE WHAT'S THE BOARD'S LATITUDE, I GUESS, ON, ON ON THAT QUESTION. YEAH. YEAH, YOU CERTAINLY COULD CONDITION THAT THESE FINAL DESIGN ITEMS COME BACK FOR REVIEW. KIND OF SIMILAR HOW YOU GUYS DID WITH THE CHURCH OF THE RESURRECTION PROJECT. THAT WAY IT LETS THEM GET MOVING SOME DIRT AND DOING SOME SITE WORK AND GETTING THAT PROCESS MOVING WHILE WITH THE APPLICANTS. BE AGREEABLE TO THAT. REPEATING WHAT ANDREW SAID, I THINK MAKING SURE I'M CAPTURING EVERYTHING YOU SAID, BUT LETTING YOU GUYS MOVE FORWARD WITH SITE WORK AND THROUGH THE PERMITTING PROCESS AND CONDITION THAT YOU COME BACK WITH THESE FINAL DESIGN DETAILS TO RESOLVE THESE COMMENTS. TOTALLY AGREE. CERTAINLY THE PLAN, THE YOU KNOW, THE THE LAYOUT, EVERYTHING, ALL OF THAT THE WAY BROADLY THINGS LOOK I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH FOR ME IT'S IT'S JUST THE DETAILS THAT ANDREW BRINGS UP. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE US TO HAVE BE ABLE TO HAVE A SAY ON IT. I, I UNDERSTAND COMPLETELY. SO YEAH, THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO MARRY UP THE DRAWINGS AND THE RENDERINGS SO THAT WE CAN AND THE COMMENTS SO

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THAT WE CAN SEE WHAT IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE. SO WELL, IT ALSO SAVES ME HAVING TO MAKE A DETAILED MOTION WITH ALL MY REMARKS. WELL, I MEAN, ARE WE? BUT I GUESS THE POINT IS, IS THAT POTENTIALLY THEN WE WOULD WE WOULD ISSUE A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS WITH THE CONDITIONS THAT THE STAFF HAD IN ITS REPORT, THEIR REPORT, BUT ALSO THEN THAT DETAILING ON TOPICS COME BACK TO US CONSISTENT, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WAS SAID BY MR. MALITZ TONIGHT. AND THAT WAY WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO GO INTO GREAT DETAIL ON THE TOPIC. AND AND YEAH, I MEAN, THEY'RE PRIMARILY RELATED. IF WE NEED TO STIPULATE FOR THE PURPOSE OF EMOTION, IT WOULD BE ARCHITECTURAL DETAILS PERTAINING TO THE ELEVATIONS AND AND ROOF PLAN. I MEAN THOSE ARE REALLY THE EXTENT OF IT. AND THEN JUST REAL QUICK, JUST FOR CLARITY, IT'S AROUND THE SAME PAGE TRANSLATING THAT INTO THE PERMITTING PROCESS. SO THAT WOULD MEAN THEY COULD MOVE FORWARD WITH THE ENGINEERING APPROVALS, START SITE WORK RELATED TO THOSE THOSE DRAWINGS. WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO MOVE INTO THE BUILDING PERMIT APPROVAL PROCESS UNTIL YOU GUYS COME BACK HERE AND GET THOSE APPROVALS. DOES THAT GIVE I MEAN, DOES THAT I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR SCHEDULE IS. DOES THAT ALLOW YOU TO COME BACK NEXT MONTH WITH A OR OR WHATEVER YOUR TIMELINE PERMITS TO COME BACK IN A MONTH? OKAY.

OKAY. AND AGAIN, I WOULD HOWEVER YOU YOU'D LIKE FOR ME TO ARTICULATE THE COMMENTS THAT I MADE THIS EVENING AND MR. DAVIES COMMENTS FURTHER. WE CAN WORK WITH STAFF ON THAT IF NEED BE. JUST. YEAH, MAYBE IT MAKES SENSE. JUST WE CAN DIRECTLY GIVE THEM THOSE COMMENTS, BUT THEN WE CAN CONDITION TONIGHT THAT FINAL ARCHITECTURAL YOU KNOW COMES BACK BEFORE BUILDING OR SOMETHING. YEAH THAT'S FINE I MEAN I DON'T MIND ARTICULATING THEM BUT IT MIGHT NOT BE COMPREHENSIVE. ONE QUESTION FOR STAFF THAT I MEAN, I KNOW THAT ONCE BEFORE WE HAD ACTUALLY HAD TO DO A WAIVER ON WHERE THE FRONT ENTRANCE WAS BASED UPON IT NOT BEING ON THE PRINCIPAL STREET. AND THIS TIME STAFF KIND OF ADDRESSED IT IN THE STAFF REPORT SAYING, WELL, THIS IS OBVIOUS THAT IT'S THE RIGHT PLACE IS WHERE IT IS. I TAKE IT WE DON'T NEED TO DO A WAIVER THERE, THAT THAT'S SUFFICIENT. YOU GUYS HAVE BASICALLY, ON YOUR OWN, DECIDED THAT NO WAIVER IS NEEDED BASED ON THE BASED ON THE BUILDING FRONTING MORE PROMINENTLY ON SPRINGWOOD WOODS BOULEVARD. YEAH. OH MY GOSH, HE'S GOT ME. YOU'VE GOT ME CONFUSED. IT'S HARD TO BOULEVARD. YES OKAY OKAY. SO THAT'S THE TRUE FRONT. THAT'S THE TRUE FRONT. AND IT DOESN'T HAVE TO TRULY FRONT ON. OR EVEN THOUGH FOUR IS A BIGGER ROAD IT DOES THERE THERE ARE DOORS THAT MEET THAT REQUIREMENT THAT ARE FACING VOTERS. BUT THERE'S A HUGE AMOUNT TREES THAT WE DON'T WANT. OKAY. THAT'S FINE. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE DIDN'T MISS A THAT ALL YOU GUYS GET PROMOTED TO LAVISH NEW JOBS AT THE CITY AND SOMEBODY ELSE COME IN AND SAID WAIVER. AND SO. I MADE ALL THE MOTIONS. SOMEBODY ELSE CAN MAKE THE MOTION. LET ME READ. I'LL MAKE A MOTION AND MOVE TO APPROVE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS APPLICATION A OR B 54 2025 WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS. AND I'LL READ THE STAFF'S CONDITIONS FIRST AND THEN WE CAN TRY TO CRAFT IT. EXCUSE ME, A REMARK ON THE COMMENTS WE MADE. NUMBER ONE THAT THE FOLLOWING LANDSCAPING COMMENTS BE ADDRESSED. ADJUST THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN TO INCLUDE ADDITIONAL SAFE PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIONS FROM BOULEVARD TO THE MAIN ENTRANCE.

TO REVIEW THE PROPOSED GRADING AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF THE CURRENT BUILDING FOOTPRINT, CONSIDER THE PROPOSED VIEW SHED FROM THE EXISTING ELEVATION OF FOSTER ROAD TO THE BUILDING'S FFA FINISHED FLOOR ELEVATION. THE ADDITION OF BRICK CLAD WALL OR STRATEGIC PLANTING MAY HELP LESSEN THE VISUAL IMPACT OF THIS CONDITION. REVIEW THE PROPOSED PLANTING PLAN TO INCLUDE PARKING LOT SCREENING THAT MEETS THE MINIMUM 42 INCH HEIGHT REQUIREMENT AT THE TIME OF INSTALLATION, REVISE THE PROPOSED PLANTING PLAN AND SCHEDULE TO PROPERLY REFLECT THE INTENDED PLANTING OF EVERGREEN SPECIES ON THE CURRENT SITE PLAN. PROVIDE PLANT MATERIAL ADJACENT TO THE PROPOSED MECHANICAL YARD FOR PROPER SCREENING. REVISE THE PROPOSED PLANTING PLAN TO INCLUDE APPROVED DECIDUOUS SHADE TREES FOR ADDITIONAL SITE SCREENING. CONSIDER REVISING THE PROPOSED PLANTING PLAN TO INCLUDE ADDITIONAL PLANT MATERIAL WITHIN THE CENTER PORTION OF THE MAIN ENTRY PROMENADE. THIS BOTH REDUCES THE AMOUNT OF PAVED SURFACE IN THAT AREA, AND PROVIDES A MORE SIGNIFICANT VIEW SHED WHEN APPROACHING THE MAIN ENTRANCE. NUMBER TWO. INCLUDE EIGHT BICYCLE HITCHES. THREE PROVIDE

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THE SIGNAGE. MATCHES PROVIDE THAT THE SIGNAGE MATCHES THE EXISTING SCHOOL FACILITIES AND MEETS CODE REQUIREMENTS. IT MAY BE APPROVED BY STAFF AND THEN I SAY NUMBER FOUR. THAT THE EXTERIOR ELEVATIONS AND ROOF PLAN BE RECONSIDERED WITH THE COMMENTS PROVIDED BY THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD, AND THAT THE APPLICANT COMMIT TO A REVIEW OF THOSE ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENTS WITH THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD AT A TIME THAT IS APPROPRIATE FOR THEM. DID I SAY THAT REASONABLY WELL? SO I DID MY BEST, JOHN. IT WAS A SUPERB JOB UNDERSTANDING BETTER.

ANYTHING ELSE THAT I MISSED OR THAT WE NEED TO ADD, I WILL. I WOULD PROUDLY SECOND THAT MOTION. THANK YOU. MR. MALIK. YES, MR. ITEM? YES, MR. STROLLER? YES. MR. HINSON YES.

MR. DAVID. YES, MISS. MORTON YES, YES. MOTION PASSES WITH SIX VOTES IN FAVOR OF THE CERTIFICATE, SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS IN THE STAFF REPORT AND THE ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS OF THE EXTERIOR ELEVATIONS AND ROOF PLANS COMPORT WITH COMMENTS BY THE ARB AT THIS MEETING TONIGHT AND THE FINAL DESIGN BE APPROVED BY THE ARB. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. GOOD LUCK.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR WORKING WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND FINDING A WAY THAT WE CAN MOVE THIS PROJECT FORWARD. VERY EXCITING. MOVING

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ON TO OTHER BUSINESS. AND BEFORE, I'D LIKE TO GET IT ON THE RECORD THAT TONIGHT IS MY MOTHER'S BIRTHDAY. SO HAPPY BIRTHDAY, CHARLENE. YES, INDEED. UNDER OTHER BUSINESS, WE'RE GOING TO DO THE FOOD PANTRY FIRST. YES, WE'RE GOING TO HEAR ABOUT THE FOOD PANTRY BY MR. PARKER, I BELIEVE. GOOD EVENING. I'M TODD PARKER, F5 DESIGN ARCHITECTURE. I'VE BEEN ENGAGED BY SOME FUNDING PARTNERS WITH HEALTHY NEW ALBANY THAT WILL HELP TO FUND A NEW STRUCTURE FOR THE FOOD PANTRY. CURRENTLY, THE FOOD PANTRY IS IN THE OLD SCHOOL BUILDING THAT I BELIEVE IS PROPOSED TO BE DEMOLISHED THIS NEXT SPRING OR THEREABOUTS. AND IF YOU WANT TO SEE SOMETHING INTERESTING, YOU SHOULD GO CHECK IT OUT. YEAH, THEY USE ALL THE OLD LOCKERS TO STOP ITEMS, STORE ITEMS THAT THEY I MEAN, IT'S PRETTY IMPRESSIVE THE WAY THEY SET IT UP. SO THE GOAL IS TO GIVE THEM A STRUCTURE THAT THEY CAN BE MORE ORGANIZED AND EFFICIENT AND SERVE THE FAMILIES THAT THEY SERVE IN THE COMMUNITY. SO THE SITE THAT THEY HAVE COME UPON AGREEMENT WITH IS WITH THE ROSE RUN PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH, WHICH YOU KNOW, IS AT 62, IN HARLEM ROAD AND IN THE SOUTH EAST CORNER, AND THE KIND OF THE RED CROSS HATCHED AREA. THE CHURCHES AGREED TO BASICALLY LEASE THE FOOD PANTRY, THAT AREA OF LAND TO BE ABLE TO BUILD THIS STRUCTURE. OUR PROPOSED STRUCTURE, YOU KNOW, IT'S AN INTERESTING PIECE OF THEIR LAND BECAUSE THE, YOU KNOW, THE GIANT POWER EASEMENT FROM AEP, AND IT'S A PRETTY USELESS CORNER. SO WE ARE KIND OF CARVING OUT AN AREA WHERE WE CAN SNEAK THIS 8400 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING IN THERE. SO, YOU KNOW, THE BUILDING WOULD HOUSE HEALTHY NEW ALBANY'S OFFICES RIGHT NOW, THE I THINK THERE ARE 14 STAFF MEMBERS THAT ARE ACROSS THE STREET AT THE HEIGHT CENTER THAT SHARE A PRETTY SMALL SPACE. SO THEY WOULD MOVE THEIR OFFICES INTO THIS BUILDING, AND THEN THEY WOULD HAVE ABOUT A THIRD OF THE SPACE WOULD BE THEIR WAREHOUSE TO STORE ALL THE PRODUCT. AND THAT GETS DONATED. AND THAT THEY PURCHASE FROM THE NEW ALBANY, MID-OHIO OR THE MID-OHIO FOOD BANK. AND THEN THERE WOULD BE SOME COMMUNITY ROOMS AND OTHER THINGS THAT THEY WOULD HAVE THERE. SO. THE I PUT A COUPLE CONTEXTUAL IMAGES OF THE EXISTING CHURCH STRUCTURE THERE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE. SO THE THE SOUTH WING OF THE CHURCH IS A SIDED STRUCTURE. SO OUR STRUCTURE WOULD KIND OF MIMIC THOSE MATERIALS. THE SLIDE, THE BUTTON DOWN ONE CLICK MOBILE YOUR PALM. THAT SLIDE BUTTON ON THE BACK. OH I SEE OKAY ONE BACK ONE BACK ONE FORWARD. ARE YOU SURE ABOUT THIS. NO. YEAH. ALL RIGHT.

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THERE YOU GO. SO THAT'S OUR SITE. SO WE WOULD HAVE ACCESS OFF HARLEM ROAD. JUST A SINGLE CURB CUT AREA KIND OF TO THE SOUTH OF THE BUILDING. OUR BUILDING IS THAT AREA. MAYBE WE CAN EXPLORE DOWN TO OUR SITE PLAN. SO EDGE OF THE CHURCH PARKING LOT, THE CHURCH ACCESS FROM HARLEM ROAD. THERE WAS AN OLD HOUSE DOWN HERE THAT WAS TORN DOWN. THE PROPERTY LINE IS HERE. THE HIGH TENSION POWER LINES AROUND HERE. SO AEP PERMITS US TO PUT OUR PARKING IN EASEMENT. SO OUR STRUCTURE IS 55 BY 146 OR 58. SORRY. SO IT'S ABOUT 8460FT■!S WOULD BE RIGHT ON THE SETBACK OF HARLEM ROAD. AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE PARKING FOR ABOUT 30 CARS. YOU KNOW, A DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE. AND WE WOULD SCREEN ALL OF THAT, AND THEN WE WOULD EXTEND THE WALKING PATH DOWN TO, I THINK, WHERE IT WOULD STOP AT THEIR PROPERTY LINE. AND THIS. THANKS.

SO OUR ELEVATION THAT FACES HARLEM ROAD AGAIN, THE SIDING WOULD MIMIC THE DETAILING ON THE CHURCH. WE'VE ADDED KIND OF AN ENTRY FEATURE THAT WOULD FACE THE ROAD. THIS WOULD BE AN EMERGENCY EXIT ONLY, BUT WOULD HAVE SOME SIGNAGE THAT DENOTES THE FOOD PANTRY. THE SOUTH ELEVATION WOULD CONTAIN A LOADING DOOR THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY GET DELIVERIES FROM BOX TRUCKS QUITE FREQUENTLY, AND THEN THEY ALSO HAVE A DONATION ROOM WHERE INDIVIDUALS CAN DROP OFF FOOD AND WHATNOT. SO THANKS GOD. SO OUR WEST ELEVATION WOULD HAVE A MAIN ENTRANCE. AND THE WAY THEY WOULD LIKE THIS TO OPERATE IS THEIR CLIENTS COULD COME IN, THEY HAVE TO SIGN IN BECAUSE THEY HAVE TIME SLOTS WHERE THEY CAN SHOP, AND THEN THEY WOULD GO THROUGH THE ACTUAL PANTRY AND THEY WOULD EXIT OUT THESE DOORS. AND THE THE CHURCH BUILDING HAS THESE LITTLE OVERHANGS, BRACKETED OVERHANGS ON IT. SO WE WOULD ADD THOSE OVER THOSE ENTRANCES.

THAT WOULD BE THE ENTRANCE TO THE DONATION ROOM. WE WOULD THE CHURCH HAS A ASPHALT SHINGLE ROOF ON IT. SO WE'RE HOPING TO DO A METAL ROOF, BUT WE MIGHT COME BACK WITH AN ASPHALT SHINGLE ROOF. I DON'T KNOW YET. SO THE BUILDING THAT WE'RE WE'RE CONSIDERING, KIND OF A DRESSED UP BARN, WE'RE NOT QUITE SURE WHAT THE CONSTRUCTION TYPE WILL BE. THAT WILL BE DETERMINED BY THE CONTRACTOR THAT OUR FUNDING PARTNERS CHOOSE. SO. AND I HAVE A FLOOR PLAN IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN THAT. SO WE HAVE THE MAIN ENTRANCE THERE. LOBBY SOME OFFICES AND RESOURCE ROOM, VOLUNTEER ROOM BECAUSE IT IS STAFFED BY MOSTLY VOLUNTEERS.

SO THE COUPLE RESTROOMS AND ALL THAT. AND THEN THE ACTUAL PANTRY AREA AND THEN THE THE WAREHOUSE RECEIVING AREA. SO THEY WOULD HAVE SOME WALK IN COOLERS AND FREEZERS AND A LOT OF SHELVES FOR STORAGE BECAUSE THEY DO MORE THAN JUST FOOD. SO THEY DO PAPER GOODS, THEY DO SCHOOL SUPPLY DRIVES, ALL THOSE SORTS OF THINGS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. AND I THINK THAT THAT'S ABOUT ALL I HAVE. AND THE HEALTHY NEW ALBANY PEOPLE ARE AWARE OF THAT. AND SO THEY WOULD BE USING THE OFFICES HERE, AND THERE'S POSSIBILITY THAT WE MIGHT HAVE A MEZZANINE FOR OFFICE SPACE TOO. NOT ARCHITECTURAL. SO IT'S MORE JUST YEAH. YEAH. RIGHT NOW THEIR, THEIR SPACE IS RIGHT OFF THE LOBBY ACROSS THE STREET. THEY'RE ON TOP OF EACH OTHER.

GREAT. I LIKE WHAT I SEE. YEAH. CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE THE OVERALL IMAGE WITH THE PARKING LOT. YEAH. SO I'M ASSUMING THE PARKING LOT IS BEHIND THE BUILDING BECAUSE OF THE POWER LINES. YEAH. YEAH. SO THE ONLY THING I'M GOING TO REQUEST IS I LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD BEHIND THERE, AND THERE'S NOT APPROPRIATE SCREENING AT THE CHURCH PARKING LOT. OKAY. AND SO THE LIGHTS FROM THE CARS AND THE WINTERTIME, THERE'S NO LEAVES ON THE TREES SIGN IN THE BACK WINDOWS OF THE HOUSES ALONG. SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE PLENTY OF SCREEN. I KNOW THERE'S SOME TREES THERE, BUT IN THE WINTER THERE'S NOTHING. AND I THINK THEY'LL ONLY BE OPEN DURING THE DAY. YEAH. THAT'S WHAT THEY SAID ABOUT THE CHURCH TOO. AND, AND AND THEY'RE THERE ALL THE TIME TONIGHT. I KNOW, I KNOW IN THE WINTER A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN THE CHURCH, I HOPE. WELL. AND IN WINTER IT GETS DARK AT 5:00 AND, AND IT'S, AND IT'S LIKE THEY SAID LAST TIME. BUT SEVERAL NEIGHBORS HAVE ISSUES WITH THE LIGHT SHINING BECAUSE THE SCREENING IS NOT APPROPRIATE TO THE NEW ALBANY STANDARDS. SO THAT'S THE ONLY THING WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE SURE. YEAH, WE CAN DEFINITELY MAKE SURE THAT

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HAPPENS. BUT I WILL SAY, AND I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT. PROCESSES, BUT I KNEW THEY HAVE LIMITED HOURS WHEN THEY ACTUALLY HAVE THEIR CLIENTS THERE SHOPPING. THE REST OF THE TIME WHEN IT'S, YOU KNOW, VOLUNTEERS AND STAFF, IT'S GOING TO BE A HANDFUL OF PEOPLE. I MEAN, THE OTHER THE OTHER PROBLEM IS WHEN YOU PUT SCREENING IN THE EASEMENT EITHER. SO, I MEAN, I THINK IT'S WITH THAT COMING IN, IF YOU GO BACK TO THE PREVIOUS IMAGE, THERE'S THE NEIGHBOR. NO, I'M SORRY. UP LIKE WHERE THE PARKING LOT COMES, YOU HAVE ALL THOSE HOMES RIGHT THERE. AND YEAH, THERE'S A LINE OF TREES THERE. BUT AGAIN, IN THE WINTER IT DOESN'T DO ANY GOOD WHEN THOSE CARS ARE COMING IN THE PARKING LOT. SO THAT'S THE ONLY CONCERN I HAVE. IT'S A REALLY NICE ELEVATION ON HARLEM. IT LOOKS REALLY GOOD. THANK YOU. CAN I BRING ONE COMMENT ON THE GO BACK TO THE SITE PLAN? WAS THERE ANY. SO HAVING SEEN A LITTLE BIT OF SOME OF THE LOADING AND DROP OFF THAT HAPPENS AT THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, IT SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD BENEFIT FROM A PULL THROUGH RATHER THAN SOMEBODY PULLING IN WHATEVER THEY PICK UP OR DROP OFF, THEY'RE LIKE, WHERE ARE THEY TURNING AROUND? I SEE THE STACKED ENTRY EXIT HERE. I COULD IMAGINE SLIDING THIS DOWN A LITTLE BIT AND ALLOWING TO PULL ALL THE WAY THROUGH AND OUT TO HELP WITH TRAFFIC FLOW. SO THE CHURCH MANDATED THAT WE DID NOT USE THEIR INGRESS EGRESS, AND I WAS CONCERNED THAT, YOU KNOW, I AGREE 100%. YEAH. PULL THROUGH. MAKE TOTAL SENSE. BUT I WAS CONCERNED THAT WE WOULD HAVE TOO MANY CURB CUTS WITHIN THAT PROXIMITY. AND WE REALLY GOT, YOU KNOW, THE BUILDING IS PINCHED BETWEEN THAT FRONT SETBACK AND THE EASEMENT. ARE YOU TOUCHING THE CORNER OF THE POWER LINE EASEMENT ON THE SOUTH? YOU'RE PRETTY DARN CLOSE. YEAH, YEAH. AND WE HONESTLY, THE BUILDING WAS A LITTLE BIGGER AND WE HAVE SHRUNK IT QUITE A BIT. WE TOOK ABOUT 1500 SQUARE FEET OFF OF IT LAST WEEK, SO MUCH TO THE DISMAY OF THE GALS AT THE FOOD PANTRY. COULD COULD YOU DO LIKE A LIKE A LITTLE MINI CIRCLE HERE? THAT POSSIBLY. YEAH, THAT MIGHT BE A SOLUTION. YEAH. AND WE'RE YOU KNOW, HONESTLY, THIS IS VERY PRELIMINARY. WE'RE WORKING WITH SOME CIVIL ENGINEERS TO GET THAT ASPECT GOING AND THEY'RE GOING TO CORRECT I'M SURE THEY'RE GOING TO CORRECT MY PARKING. YEAH.

LIKE THEY'RE THERE. BUT WE ALSO, YOU KNOW, WE'LL HAVE TO HAVE RETENTION, WHICH WILL PROBABLY BE TO THE SOUTH THERE. I MEAN, THE THE OUTLINE IN RED TO THE TOP LEFT IS, IS THE CHURCH'S RETENTION BASIN. SO I'M SURE WE'LL HAVE TO HAVE OUR THAT KIND OF STUFF. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I LOVE THE HAND RENDERINGS. IT'S IS IT THE CHART PACK MARKERS. THEY'RE JUST REALLY GOOD. IT LOOKS GREAT. THANK YOU. THANKS. THANK YOU, MR. PARKER. WE'LL BE BACK AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. OKAY. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. WE HAVE THE MASTER SIGN PLAN. KICK OFF. YEAH, HANG ON ONE SECOND. WE JUST GOT TO SWITCH PRESENTATIONS. OKAY. BUT I'M HAPPY TO INTRODUCE BLAKE AND GLENN. SO CITY STAFF IS COLLABORATING WITH WESLEY AND ROBERTS ON A KIND OF PILOT PROGRAM FOR VILLAGE CENTER. SO WE'RE JUST KIND OF KICKING THIS OFF. I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN TALKED ABOUT FOR MANY YEARS, AND SOMETHING THAT WE'RE VERY HOPEFUL WILL COME OUT OF IT IS VILLAGE HALL WILL GET SOME PILOT SIGNAGE AS WELL AS SOME CODE UPDATES. SO I WILL LET YOU GUYS TAKE IT. OH THANK YOU. YEAH. GREAT TO SEE EVERYBODY AGAIN. I'M BLAKE AND THIS IS GLENN. DO YOU IS THIS IT? IT SHOULD WORK. LET'S GO FULL SCREEN. OKAY. OH, IS IT A.

WHILE? THEY'RE GETTING THAT SET UP. SIERRA MENTIONED WESLEY AND ROBERTS, AND I GET THAT QUESTION A LOT. WHO IS WESLEY AND ROBERTS? MY MIDDLE NAME IS WESLEY AND MY BUSINESS PARTNER, JASON. HIS MIDDLE NAME IS ROBERTS. IT SOUNDED WAY BETTER THAN BLAKE AND JASON. SO. JUST A LITTLE INSIGHT THERE. LET'S SEE. OKAY, GREAT. THERE WE GO. A LITTLE INTRO. SO JASON AND I

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HAVE BEEN WORKING TOGETHER FOR 13 YEARS. AND ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO WE LAUNCHED OUR AGENCY. OUR HEADQUARTERS IS RIGHT DOWN THE STREET ACROSS FROM THE MORGAN STANLEY BUILDING AND NEAR THE EAGLES PIZZA. MY BACKGROUND I MOVED HERE 20 YEARS AGO. I'VE LIVED IN NEW ALBANY FOR 20 YEARS, ORIGINALLY TO WORK FOR ABERCROMBIE AND FITCH AS A DESIGNER, AND THEN MOVED OVER AS RETAIL. GOES IN COLUMBUS OVER TO BATH AND BODY WORKS. I MENTIONED THAT A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE OF MY EXPERIENCE WORKING NOT ONLY AS A DESIGNER IN THE NEW ALBANY RETAIL SPACE, CORPORATE RETAIL, BUT REALLY GETTING A FLAVOR FOR THE WEXNER TOUCH AND HOW HE LED HIS BUSINESS AND HIS COMPANIES AND THE CREATIVE PROCESS VERY MUCH HAS HAS HAD AN IMPACT ON MYSELF.

SO I FOR THIS PILOT PROGRAM, THIS PROJECT, I ACT AS THE LEAD STRATEGIC PERSON AND THEN DESIGN ADVISORY, AND THEN WE'LL BE WORKING ON EVERY ASPECT FROM CODE AND, AND THE ALIGNMENT OF THAT WITH THE ARB AND LEADING WITH STAFF AS WELL. AND THEN MY BUSINESS PARTNER, JASON, HE IS VERY MUCH INVOLVED AS MUCH AS HE CAN, BUT HE'S BASED IN WASHINGTON, DC, AND HE WAS RECENTLY APPOINTED AS THE DIRECTOR OF MIDDLE EAST AND AFRICA FOR THE NATIONAL SECURITY COUNCIL AT THE WHITE HOUSE. SO HE'S NOT ABLE TO BE HERE PHYSICALLY WITH US, BUT HIS BACKGROUND WITH SPECIAL FORCES AND CIA AND PENTAGON BRINGS A LEVEL OF CIVIC AND FEDERAL TOUCH TO KIND OF THE THE INFLUENCE OF, OF, YOU KNOW, OUR VENERATION TOWARDS THE CODE AND THE PROCESS AND EVERYTHING THAT COMES ALONG WITH THAT. AND THEN, OF COURSE, WE HAVE GLENN, WHO. HAS BEEN AROUND FOR 35 YEARS. DESIGN DIRECTOR OF DESIGNS. WE DESIGNED A BROAD RANGE OF DIFFERENT KINDS OF CHALLENGES. WE WORKED WITH THE WEXNER'S ON ON THEIR SITE. AND SO HERE IN NEW YORK. AND SO WE DESIGNED A BROAD RANGE OF STUFF. SO. I MENTIONED THIS KIND OF ORGANIC. WE'RE JUST WORKING DOWNTOWN BUT. THERE'S A NEED HERE. SO WE OFFERED THAT UP AND THAT'S HOW WE GOT HERE. AND FROM A FABRICATION ENGINEERING STANDPOINT WE'RE WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO HAVE HAVE YOU ON. SO A LITTLE BACKGROUND NOT NOT TO GO INTO ALL OF OUR PREVIOUS WORK, BUT JUST WANTED TO SHOW A FEW RECENT PIECES THAT BROUGHT US ACTUALLY IN HERE THE FIRST TIME. YOU KNOW, SPEAKING TO THE ARB WAS THE 24 MAIN SIGN WHICH, WHICH GLENN AND HIS TEAM WAS VERY MUCH A PART OF AND GETTING FAMILIAR WITH THE PROCESS AND THE APPROVALS AND UNDERSTANDING FROM THE VERY BEGINNING TO THE VERY END OF THAT PROCESS. AND THEN ALSO WITH THE GREENSTEIN MCCARTHY SIGN OVER ON THE 11, IS IT THE NINE NINE SOUTH HIGH STREET SIDE OF THAT BUILDING AND AND GETTING A LITTLE BIT MORE FAMILIAR WITH THAT. AND SO REALLY, REALLY HELPS GIVE US SOME INSIGHT WHERE WE SEE SOME OPPORTUNITIES FOR CLARITY AND TO CONTINUE TO PRESERVE THE THE GEORGIAN ESTHETIC STANDARD THAT NEW ALBANY TREASURES, AND MAKING SURE THAT WE CAN HELP, YOU KNOW, ESTABLISH THAT ACROSS A LANGUAGE FROM BUSINESSES AND CITY SIGNAGE. SO. SORRY THAT THAT TEXT IS A BIT SMALL. I'LL TRY TO READ THROUGH THIS PRETTY QUICK. BUT WHAT THE PROGRAM, THE PILOT PROGRAM IS REALLY CITY LED VILLAGE CENTER AND MARKET SQUARE SIGNAGE PLAN PILOT, STRATEGIC SIGNAGE AND DESIGN ADVISORY, TARGETED CODE UPDATE SUPPORT. THE WHY BEHIND THAT STAFF FRIENDLY DE-RISK DECISIONS USING A SHARED PREVIEW ROOM AND CLEAR PACKETS INSIGHTS, FEED CODE AND GUIDELINE UPDATES WITH STAFF. WE MENTIONED THE PREVIEW ROOM.

THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WHEN WE DID A LOT OF OUR DISCOVERY MEETINGS WITH CITY STAFF AND FILTERING THAT THROUGH MY EXPERIENCE WORKING AT LIMITED BRANDS AND WEXNER LOVE THE IDEA OF HAVING AN ACTUAL ROOM WHERE YOU CAN PHYSICALLY TOUCH SAMPLES, SEE SCALED ITEMS, AND

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THAT ROOM THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT DOING IS HERE IS THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. YES. YEP. THE ADMIN ROOM RIGHT NEXT DOOR. NOT TO COMPLETELY TRANSFORM IT, BUT TO CREATE A SPACE THAT'S REALLY KIND OF A SHOW AND TELL OR A TOY BOX. WHEN DO YOU WANT TO EXPAND ON? ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK CAN BE AN ADVANTAGE FOR EVERYBODY IS TO BE ABLE TO WALK IN, WALK THROUGH, SEE WHAT'S GOING ON, SEE WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED, COME BACK WITH QUESTIONS AND SUGGESTIONS. PHYSICAL SPACE, NOT JUST THE COMPUTER SPACE SO T HAVING A MORE TACTILE.

PRESENTATION CLEARLY CLARIFIES BOTH QUESTIONS AND RESOLUTIONS. YEAH. AND SO WE ALREADY KIND OF COVERED THE WHO WHEN WE THIS FALL. TONIGHT IS THE FIRST OF THE MEETINGS THAT WOULD HAPPEN BETWEEN NOW AND NOVEMBER. AND AGAIN WHERE. RIGHT HERE. VILLAGE HALL. THE THE FIRST EXECUTION WOULD BE EXTERIOR SIGNAGE AS CIARA HINTED AT SCOPED AND APPROVED SEPARATELY, JUST AS A NORMAL SIGN APPROVAL PROCESS WOULD. AND THEN AGAIN, I THINK THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT. THE INTENT IS PRESERVING NEW ALBANY STANDARD AND CONTEXT WHILE IMPROVING CLARITY AND LEGIBILITY, SUPPORTING THOUGHTFUL CODE AND GUIDELINE MODERNIZATION. SO AGAIN, IT'S THE BOUNDS THAT ARE SET BY THE BOARD. WE WANT TO PLAY AND EXPLORE AND ELEVATE THE STANDARD WITHIN THOSE BOUNDS. WITH THE CITY LEADING THAT PROCESS AND US WORKING REALLY CLOSELY WITH WITH THEM. THAT KIND OF KEEPING IT EASY, JUST DOING THESE SHORT LOOPS WITH STAFF BETWEEN MEETINGS, I THINK WILL HELP, YOU KNOW, TIGHTEN AND KEEP EVERYTHING REALLY EFFICIENT IN HERE. SO THAT WAY WE HAVE OPTIONS ALREADY IN BOUNDS, EVERYTHING TO SCALE AND DOCUMENT IT. AND THEN NOTHING INSTALLS. OBVIOUSLY, WITHOUT ARB BEING SEEN, SEEING IT AND SHAPING IT. AND THEN THE PREVIEW, THE PREVIEW ROOM IS KIND OF A HUGE PART OF THIS PROCESS FOR US. AGAIN, JUST KIND OF A QUICK LOOP ON THIS. WE WORK TIGHTLY WITH THE STAFF ON REGULAR CHECK INS BETWEEN ARB SESSIONS, AND THEN WE WILL UPDATE AND WORK ON THE PREVIEW ROOM HAVING TOUCHABLE MOCKUPS AND MATERIALS TO TUNE ANYTHING BEFORE IT GOES OUT. AND THEN OF COURSE, OUR ARB TOUCHPOINTS. I THINK THE NEXT ONE WOULD BE EARLY OCTOBER AND A SMALL SET OF ASSESSABLE OPTIONS ALREADY IN BOUNDS, EASY TO SCAN AND THEN OF COURSE, ROOM FOR REVISIONS TO INCORPORATE FEEDBACK AND TIGHTEN FOR THE NEXT LOOP. SO WHAT YOU CAN EXPECT THAT WE'RE GOING TO BRING TO EVERY TOUCHPOINT SCALED MOCKUPS. I THINK IT'S ALSO GOOD TO HAVE A DAY AND A NIGHT MOCK UP WHERE RELEVANT, BECAUSE IT'S A IT'S A BIG PART OF OUR WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE TO MATERIALS AND FINISH CALLOUTS, ILLUMINATION NOTES, TYPICAL HARDWARE COMPLIANCE, CHECK SIZE PROJECTION MOUNTING HEIGHT OPTIONS ALREADY INBOUNDS AB AND RARELY SEE OPTION. AND THEN ONE EASY APPROVAL PACKET FOR STAFF AND ARB. JUST A SECOND TO LAST SLIDE HERE. COMMITMENTS AND GUARDRAILS. HOW DO WE ENSURE CLARITY CONTEXT AND CODE? I. I LIKE THE OCCASIONAL SURPRISE ON A BIRTHDAY, BUT I'M SURE YOU GUYS DON'T LIKE SURPRISES HERE. SO YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE THAT INSTALL PROCESSES IS TIGHT.

PRIOR VISIBILITY APPROVAL VILLAGE HALL EXTERIOR BEING SCOPED AND APPROVED. HERE EVERYTHING THE SCALE AND DOCUMENT DIMENSIONS, MATERIALS, MOUNTING, DAY NIGHT MOCKUPS, EVERY PACKET CODE ALIGNMENT PART A BIG PART OF THIS IS GOING TO BE WORKING ON THAT CODE AND MAKING SURE THAT WE PARTNER WITH STAFF TO DOCUMENT INSIGHTS AND SUPPORT TARGETING CODE UPDATES, PRESENTING THOSE, AND MAKING SURE THAT RV IS ENGAGED THROUGH THE NORMAL PUBLIC PROCESS. AND THE INBOUNDS BY DESIGN OPTIONS ARE PRE-FILTERED TO CODE GUIDELINES, SIGHTLINES, SAFETY, LEGIBILITY, AND SO FORTH. RESPECT FOR CONTEXT AND NIGHT SHIELDED ILLUMINATION, APPROPRIATE COLOR TEMP CURFEWS, DIMMING WHERE NEEDED. ACTUALLY, THAT IT'S THE LAST EXAMPLE, THE FOOD PANTRY THAT YOU MENTIONED WITH THE SENSITIVITY TO LIGHT IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF OF HOW THAT MIGHT TRANSLATE TO A LOT OF THESE SIGNS THAT ARE, THAT ARE

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GOING TO BE BEING PUT UP THIS MONTH IS 300 MILLION WORDS OR MIGRATED SOUTH. AND ALSO THE THE BUTTERFLIES, A LOT OF FUN. SO THAT'S. YEAH THE THE LIGHT POLLUTION AT NIGHT. SO RESPECT FOR CONTEXT TONIGHT AND THEN CITY AGENT CITIES AGENT WE WE ARE ACTING COORDINATING VENDORS SUBMISSIONS AND SCHEDULES, CLEAN APPROVALS AND COMMUNICATION ON THAT END. SO THE BUILT IN GUARDRAILS THE PREVIEW ROOM IS ACTS AS THAT. AND THEN WE HAVE THE REVERSIBLE PILOT AND STAGE MOCKUPS. AND THEN ADA CONTRACTS TO WHERE TYPOGRAPHY AND SIZES, DURABLE, SERVICEABLE MATERIALS THAT GLENN AND HIS TEAM CAN WARRANTY AND AND DO MAINTENANCE COORDINATION ON. AND THEN LASTLY, JUST FROM HERE, WHAT CAN WE EXPECT FOR THE NEXT TIME WE WILL BE DOING A VILLAGE CENTER MARKET SQUARE ASSESSMENT. THOSE WILL COME IN THE FORM OF BOARDS THAT WE'LL PUT UP IN THE PREVIEW ROOM, AND THAT ASSESSMENT WILL BE PRETTY THOROUGH, INCLUDING PHOTOGRAPHS AND EXAMPLES, VISIONS AND AND REFERENCE POINTS TO SOME OF OUR RESEARCH WITH GEORGIAN ESTHETIC AND DOING A PHOTO AUDIT, INVENTORY CONSTRAINTS, EARLY OPPORTUNITY THEMES, INBOUNDS PRINCIPLES, PRE-FILTERED WITH OUR CITY STAFF TEAM AND THEN MATERIAL SAMPLES FOR HANDLING IN THE PREVIEW ROOM. WE'RE VISUAL LEARNERS, SO I'M EXCITED ABOUT THAT PART. AND THEN CLEAR STAFF READY PACKETS AND THAT WILL MAKE THE APPROVALS AND AND REQUESTS FROM ARB EASIER. SCHEDULING WILL GO THROUGH SIERRA AND WE'LL DO THE WE'LL SET THE PREVIEW ROOM WALK THROUGH DATE TARGET EARLY OCTOBER. AS MENTIONED, THE APPROVAL PATH WILL FOLLOW STAFF'S PREFERRED PROCESS. ARB INVOLVEMENT REMAINS THROUGH THE REGULAR AGENDA. AND THEN AGAIN POINT OF CONTACT WITH SIERRA. AND THAT'S IT. SO SIERRA, DID I MISS ANYTHING? I DON'T THINK SO. WE LOVE ANY ANY QUESTIONS. YOU KNOW, Q&A OR YOU KNOW, GLENN, YOU MIGHT EVEN HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS OF YOUR OWN. SO OKAY, FREE ROOM WILL BE OVER WHERE STAFF CURRENTLY JUST RIGHT OVER HERE IN THIS ROOM OVER HERE. YEP. SO I USED TO CERTAIN THING, BUT YOU GUYS DON'T HAVE TO GO A LONG WAY. WE WILL HAVE TO GET IN OUR CARS AND COME OVER HERE.

RIGHT. SO IS THE IS THE END RESULT THEN A LIKE AN UPDATED SIGN CODE. AND WHAT'S THE TIMELINE FOR THAT. IS THAT GOING TO BE 2026? MOST LIKELY. YEAH. OKAY. AND THEN SIGNAGE ON THIS BUILDING, I DO NOT REMEMBER ANY OF THE COMMENTS THAT THIS BOARD HAS OFTEN PROVIDED WHEN IT COMES TO SIGNAGE APPLICATIONS. BUT I KNOW THERE ARE MANY AND I KNOW THEY'RE DIVERSE. HOW IS ALL OF THAT GOING TO HELP INFORM THE PROCESS THAT YOU'RE GOING THROUGH? I MEAN, WE'RE SURE WE'RE ALL HAPPY TO AIR OUR GRIEVANCES, BUT WHAT I WONDER, I WONDER HOW THAT ALL GETS TRANSLATED BACK TO YOU, BECAUSE I THINK WE PROBABLY MORE SO THAN, WELL, YEAH, WE ARE THE BOARD THAT DEALS WITH SIGNAGE. SO THERE'S OFTEN A LOT OF OPINIONS ABOUT IT. I WAS AT CVS LAST WEEK REMEMBERING AND YEAH, RIGHT. AND I SAID, HEY HOW YOU GUYS DOING? AND THEY SAID, WE'RE DOING PRETTY WELL. I SAID, YOU KNOW, THE P IS FALLING OFF OF THE SIGN OUTSIDE. AND IT'S BEEN THAT WAY FOR QUITE A WHILE. AND IT SAYS CVS. IT SAYS PHARMACY. I GUESS THE IRONY, IRONY LIKE YOU MIGHT WANT TO ORDER A P. YEAH. GET THIS WORKED OUT. YOU KNOW, THIS THIS WHOLE PROGRAM CAME FROM I'M VERY OBSERVANT. AND WHEN WE WERE WORKING ON THE TWO SIGNS THAT WE DID PREVIOUSLY, A LOT OF OF WHAT INFORMED THAT PROCESS FOR US IS I'M A RESEARCHER, I GO AROUND AND TOOK PICTURES OF ALL THESE SIGNS, AND MY MY TEAM REFERS TO ME AS THE GERMAN WITH THE CLIPBOARD. THAT'S LIKE, THAT'S JUST HOW I OPERATE. AND SO I SEE A LOT OF THESE LITTLE ISSUES AND PINPOINTS THAT KIND OF TURN INTO PAIN POINTS FOR ME. AND THAT'S WHEN I DID REACH OUT TO JENNIFER, AND WE ENDED UP HAVING OUR MEETING, OUR INITIAL MEETING, AND I JUST SHARED MY VISION WITH HER. I SAID, THIS NEW ALBANY HAVE A SIGN PROGRAM. YOU KNOW THAT AFTER GOING THROUGH A COUPLE OF PROCESSES AND AND WANTED TO BE ABLE TO TO REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT'S BEHIND THE CURTAIN, WHAT WHAT ARE A

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LOT OF THE SPEED BUMPS OR PATTERNS OF PAIN POINTS ON YOUR END THAT YOU'RE SEEING THAT WE COULD MITIGATE THROUGH CLEANING UP THIS, THIS CODE AND THIS PROCESS TO PREVENT A LOT OF THOSE ROUGH POINTS. AND, AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S HOW THIS WHOLE THING KIND OF BIRTHED. AND SO YOUR, YOUR INPUT, YOUR INSIGHT, THE THINGS THAT YOU MAYBE HAVE SEEN OVER AND OVER AGAIN SAY, HEY, THESE THESE COULD BE PREVENTABLE. OR MAYBE WE COULD CREATE A WAY THAT NARROWS IT A LITTLE BIT AND ALLOWS US TO CREATE SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, IS A BIT MORE EFFICIENT. SO I PRESUME LOGISTICALLY THIS IS A OR B MAKES A RECOMMENDATION AND THEN DOES THAT GO TO COUNCIL THEN FOR TO IN ORDER TO BE CODIFIED CODIFIED. YES. WE VOTE ON IT. YEP. WE'LL KEEP YOU GUYS INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS, WHICH IS SOMETHING WE ACTUALLY HAVEN'T DONE WITH A LOT OF BOARDS. THIS WOULD BE KIND OF A LEARNING EXPERIENCE FOR BOTH OF US, I THINK, BUT KEEP YOU GUYS INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS SO THAT, YOU KNOW, EVENTUALLY, YES, IT WILL BE A CODE UPDATE THAT'LL GO TO YOU GUYS, PLANNING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL. WE WANT TO KIND OF GET IN THE MUD A LITTLE BIT WITH YOU GUYS THROUGH SOME OF THESE DESIGN DETAILS. AND TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, ANDREW, WE HAVE AS LIKE I MENTIONED, WE MET WITH THEM SEVERAL TIMES TO SHARE SOME OF THE CURRENT CONCERNS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE BROUGHT UP. GREAT. BUT THEN OVER, YOU KNOW, THE SEVEN YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN HERE, THERE HAVE ALSO BEEN NOT CONCERNS, BUT OBSERVATIONS MADE ABOUT HOW SIGNAGE HAS BEEN DEVELOPED AND APPLIED, MORE PARTICULARLY IN THE NEWER PART OF MARKET SQUARE. IF YOU GO TO THE ORIGINAL, I GUESS, CASE STUDY FOR MARKET SQUARES, LAKE FOREST, ILLINOIS, I'VE BEEN ABLE TO GO OUT THERE AND SEE HOW SIGNAGE IS KIND OF THAT'S OBVIOUSLY THAT DEVELOPMENT IS MUCH, MUCH OLDER THAN WHAT WE HAVE HERE, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING WE HOPE TO GROW INTO BE ONE DAY. AND YOU WILL SEE THERE'S A LOT THERE'S A THERE MAY BE AN OPPORTUNITY, A LEARNING LESSON THERE WHERE WE CAN LOOSEN UP OR ALLOW SOME DIVERSITY IN OUR SIGNAGE, IN MARKET SQUARE, IN OUR HISTORIC VILLAGE CENTER. SO YOU CAN LET THOSE PLACES, LET THE ALLOW MORE OF A SENSE OF PLACE TO BE CREATED VERSUS MAYBE MAKING EVERYTHING LOOK THE SAME AGAIN, RIGHT OR WRONG. BUT THAT'S SOME OF THE FEEDBACK THAT WE'VE THAT WE'VE HEARD, NOT JUST FROM YOU GUYS, BUT FROM THE COMMUNITY AND STAFF AS, AS OVER THE COURSE OF TIME THAT I'VE BEEN HERE. SO WE ASKED THEM TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT, AND THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE CASE STUDIES. IN ADDITION TO THE STUFF WE'VE TALKED ABOUT WITH YOU GUYS.

THAT'S GREAT THAT YOU BROUGHT UP. YEAH. MY GUESS IS MR. MEYER MAY HAVE SOME THOUGHTS IF HE EVER COMES DOWN TO HIS OFFICE. YES. YEP, YEP. THANK YOU. THANKS. LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU GUYS. APPRECIATE IT. LOOK FORWARD TO. ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE MEMBERS A PLEASURE AS ALWAYS. YEP. THANKS SO MUCH. THANK YOU ALL. THANKS EVERYBODY. MOTION TO ADJOURN. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN. MOTION TO ADJOURN I'LL SECOND. MR. DAVIS. YES. MR. HENSON? YES.

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