Sep 15, 2025 Capital Projects Workshop at the Public Service Complex

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MORNING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, AND WELCOME TO THE NEW ALBANY CITY COUNCIL CAPITAL PROJECTS WORKSHOP. CLERK. MASON, THE ROLL, PLEASE. AND IF I AND THE REST OF COUNCIL WILL TURN ON THEIR MICROPHONES. MAYOR SPALDING HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER BURGESS HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER.

DEREK HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER. FELLOWS HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER HERE.

COUNCIL MEMBER. WILTROUT HERE. I HAVE SEVEN PRESENT FOR THE SEPTEMBER 15TH CAPITAL PROJECT WORKSHOP. ANY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS TO THE AGENDA? NO. ALRIGHT. I JUST THOUGHT SOMEONE WOULD ADD AT A BIRTHDAY CELEBRATION SINCE WE HAVE ALL THESE BALLOONS. BUT I WANT TO

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WE'VE TRIED TO MAINTAIN SOME CONSISTENCY YEAR OVER YEAR. WE'VE ALSO INCLUDED SOME ADDITIONAL NEW WRINKLES TO KEEP THINGS A LITTLE BIT INTERESTING. THIS YEAR, WE'LL HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A CONDENSED FORMAT. WE KNOW YOU'RE LIMITED ON TIME TODAY. EXCUSE ME. SO WE WILL TRY TO MOVE MOVE FORWARD AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. AND WITH THAT I'LL HAND IT OFF TO ADRIAN

[5. 2026 FISCAL OUTLOOK: ]

YOU KNOW, NOW WE HAVE A PROGRAM AND WE CAN BE TRANSPARENT WITH RESIDENTS ABOUT WHAT THEY CAN EXPECT IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD. SO KUDOS TO YOU. GOOD JOB. WE HOPE THAT WE'LL KIND OF HAVE THE SAME OUTCOME AFTER TODAY. AND REALLY GET A GOOD SENSE OF WHAT WE NEED TO DO NEXT YEAR.

AND HOW CAN WE DO, YOU KNOW, IMPLEMENT PROJECTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE IMPACTFUL FOR THE COMMUNITY. SO THAT WAS OUR LITTLE NOSTALGIC INTRO THAT WE WANTED TO TAKE YOU THROUGH IN TERMS OF TODAY, WHAT YOUR AGENDA IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE? IF I CAN GET THE SLIDE DECK UP.

WE DO HAVE A LITTLE BIT SHORTER OF A TIME. JEN, IS THERE SOMETHING I SHOULD DO TO GET.

NOPE. I'LL SHOW YOU WHAT'S HAPPENING BECAUSE THAT IS DUPLICATED. OKAY, THAT'S ALL THAT IS. SO THE AGENDA TODAY IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE. THAT. SO FIRST OF ALL, YOU MIGHT NOTICE WE ARE NOT CELEBRATING A BIRTHDAY. BUT WE DO WANT TO USE THESE BALLOONS THROUGH THE COURSE OF THE DAY. AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT IS YOU ARE GOING TO TAKE YOUR SHARPIE THAT IS ATTACHED TO YOUR BALLOONS ON THE SIDE OF YOUR CHAIR. THAT WILL COME IN A MINUTE HERE AND WRITE DOWN ON YOUR BALLOON TWO THINGS THAT YOU WALKED IN TODAY THAT ARE ON YOUR MIND THAT YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT. SO IT COULD BE A PROJECT, A CURRENT PROJECT, A COMPLETELY NEW PROJECT, SOMETHING YOU WANT AN UPDATE ON. JUST TWO THINGS THAT WHEN YOU'RE COMING IN TODAY, YOU THOUGHT, I HOPE THAT WE TALK ABOUT THIS TODAY. SO TAKE A MINUTE. TAKE YOUR

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IF YOU DON'T HAVE TO, THAT'S OKAY.

I KNOW. I WANT TO SAY TO ANYONE WATCHING THE LIVE STREAM RIGHT NOW, WE ONLY HAVE A WIDE SHOT OF COUNCIL. WE'RE WORKING ON MAKING IT. SO I CAN ALSO GET THE PRESENTATION UP ON THE LIVE STREAM. IT MIGHT TAKE A LITTLE BIT, AND I'M HAPPY TO SHARE WITH ANYONE WHO EMAILED ME OR REQUESTS TO SHARE OUR SLIDE DECK. THANK YOU. CASEY IS LOSING HIS SECOND BALLOON, RIGHT? ALL RIGHT, SO THROUGH THE COURSE OF THE DAY, IF WE TALK ABOUT ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT WERE ON YOUR BALLOON, YOU CAN TAKE YOUR PIN AND POP THE BALLOON. YOU CAN DO THAT AS DISCREETLY AS YOU WANT FOR MAXIMUM SURPRISE EFFECT. I MEAN, IF YOU WANT TO TIE THEM CLOSER TO YOU SO YOU CAN DO THAT DISCREETLY, DO WHATEVER YOU WANT WITH THEM. AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE WILL CHECK IN WITH EVERYONE, AND IF THERE'S A TOPIC WE HAVEN'T COVERED THROUGH THE COURSE OF THE DAY, WE'LL HAVE A TIME TO DISCUSS IT. CERTAINLY, IF WE, YOU KNOW, THROUGHOUT THE DAY, IF THERE'S SOMETHING LIKE WE NEED TO BRING MORE INFORMATION BACK TO YOU, WE WILL WE WILL PUT THAT ON A FLIP CHART, LIST THAT OUT, AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT WITH YOU AND GIVE YOU MORE INFORMATION AT A FUTURE COUNCIL MEETING OR AT THE OPERATING BUDGET WORKSHOP. SO DOES EVERYONE UNDERSTAND HOW TO USE YOUR BALLOONS? OKAY, WE GOT TO TALK ABOUT THAT ONE FAST, CASEY. YOU. TORN DOWN. I'M GOING TO. WRITE. CASEY. SO MANY THOUGHTS TO.

VILLAGE SENATOR. SO WE CAN ALREADY TAKE THAT. THAT IS YOUR INTRO. WE'RE GOING TO DO FISCAL OUTLOOK AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT WE'RE WE'RE GOING TO IN THE INTRO WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT CURRENT YEAR PROJECTS REALLY QUICKLY. THAT'S HOW WE'RE GOING TO SAVE SOME TIME THIS YEAR IS BY NOT GOING THROUGH EACH ONE OF THOSE. BUT WE HAVE INFORMATION TO PROVIDE YOU.

JUST SO YOU HAVE AN UPDATE. THEN BETHANY WILL GIVE HER FISCAL OUTLOOK THAT SHE'LL TALK ABOUT CAPITAL, ALL OUR CAPITAL FUNDS, THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUND, THE PARKS AND TRAILS FUND, THE VILLAGE CENTER FUND, THE VILLAGE CENTER FUND. WE'LL TALK ABOUT, OH. OH, OH, SHE TALKED ABOUT IT. WE CAN TALK MORE ABOUT IT LATER. AND THEN COMMS IS GOING TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE.

THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE LUNCH. AND THEN WE'LL SPEND THE ENTIRE AFTERNOON. OH MY GOD. WAS ONE OF MINE. I'M LITERALLY GOING TO SAY LUNCH WAS YOUR BIG ONE. OH MY GOSH. LUNCH IS SCHEDULED 1130. JUST SO YOU KNOW. WHAT'S UP? YOU REQUESTED LUNCH AT 1130. YEAH. YES. THAT'S WHAT. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT WE GOT STARTED. MY WORK HERE IS DONE. WE'LL HUSTLE. AND THEN THE ENTIRE AFTERNOON WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE DRAFT CAPITAL BUDGET AND PROJECTS THAT WE ARE BRINGING TO YOU IN A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT WAY THAN IN THE PAST, JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE LESS TIME THIS YEAR. SO LET'S GET GOING. IN TERMS OF JUST THIS INTRO PART, I JUST WE DO WANT TO KIND OF SET THE STAGE AND REMIND YOU THAT THIS PAST MAY AND JOE JUST SENT THIS REPORT OUT IN HIS EMAIL TO YOU THIS WEEKEND, COUNCIL DID DO SOME STRATEGIC PRIORITIES WITH DANA MCDANIEL. AND THESE WERE

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SO IF YOU WE DON'T TALK ABOUT SOMETHING RELATED TO THESE TODAY, IT'S BECAUSE THE FACILITIES PLAN, THE PARK FACILITIES PLAN, THAT WOULD BE MORE OF AN OPERATING EXPENSE.

AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN THE OPERATING BUDGET WORKSHOP IN NOVEMBER. JUST SO JUST THAT'S JUST A REMINDER ABOUT THOSE THE SPECIFIC CAPITAL PRIORITIES THAT COUNCIL SET BACK IN 2020, WHERE THE AREAS THAT WE'VE BEEN FOCUSING ON OVER THE PAST YEAR. SO THAT WAS THE VILLAGE CENTER, RECREATIONAL AMENITIES. SO WE'VE DONE A LOT OF PARKS, PLAYGROUNDS, IMPROVEMENTS IN THESE PAST FIVE YEARS BASED ON THIS PRIORITY. MAINTENANCE WAS A BIG PRIORITY FIVE YEARS AGO. AND SINCE THAT TIME, WE'VE SET UP A NUMBER OF ANNUAL MAINTENANCE PROGRAMS THE STREET MAINTENANCE PROGRAM, THE SIDEWALK REPLACEMENT PROGRAM, PARKS AND TRAILS, AND THOSE ARE THOSE ANNUAL PROGRAMS THAT MAKE, YOU KNOW, ENSURE THAT OUR INFRASTRUCTURE IS MAINTAINED AND AT A QUALITY AND MEETS THE COMMUNITY'S EXPECTATIONS. AND THEN SUSTAINABILITY WAS A PRIORITY FIVE YEARS AGO FROM A CAPITAL STANDPOINT. AND FROM THAT TIME, WE'VE DONE THINGS LIKE SOLAR PANELS AT THE SERVICE DEPARTMENT. THAT WAS A FEW YEARS AGO. WE ALSO HAVE THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD. NOW THAT, YOU KNOW, RECOMMENDS TO COUNCIL DIFFERENT PROJECTS AND PROGRAMS RELATED TO SUSTAINABILITY. SO THOSE ARE OUR CAPITALS OR COUNCIL'S CAPITAL PRIORITIES, AND YOU'LL SEE THOSE REFLECTED IN THE THE THE DRAFT BUDGET THAT WE AND PROJECTS WE TALK ABOUT THIS YEAR. THIS IS REALLY HARD TO SEE, BUT THIS JUST IS A LIST OF THINGS WE'VE DONE IN THE OVER THE PAST FIVE YEARS RELATED TO CAPITAL PROJECTS, MAINTENANCE AND THEN ALSO DESIGN. ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE DONE OVER THESE PAST FEW YEARS IS THROUGH THIS WORKSHOP, YOU WILL FUND THE DESIGN OF PROJECTS THAT THEN LETS US PLAN LATER. SO A YEAR OR TWO LATER TO TO BUDGET FOR THE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION OF THEM. WE GET BETTER ESTIMATES THAT WAY. WE KIND OF HAVE BETTER TIMELINES WHEN IT COMES TO CONSTRUCTION. AND SO YOU'LL SEE A COUPLE THINGS LIKE THAT TODAY AS WELL, WHERE WE MIGHT PROPOSE DESIGN NEXT YEAR, BECAUSE IN THE CAPITAL BUDGET IN A YEAR OR TWO, WE WOULD RECOMMEND THAT COUNCIL FUND A PROJECT TO CONSTRUCT. SO I GAVE YOU A HANDED OUT, A LIST, A MEMO TO YOU. IT'S AT YOUR SEAT. LET'S SEE IF THIS LINK WORKS. AND THAT IS AN UPDATE ON ALL THE CURRENT PROJECTS. SO IF YOU WENT TO YOUR BUDGET APPENDIX, THAT WAS THE CAPITAL APPENDIX.

AND LOOKED AT PROJECTS THAT WE WERE FUNDING THIS YEAR, THERE IS AN UPDATE ON ALL OF THOSE.

SO WHAT WE DO WANT TO DO USUALLY WE WOULD GO THROUGH ALL OF THESE PROJECTS WITH YOU, BUT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE AS MUCH TIME THIS YEAR, WE JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE THAT IN WRITING. AND THEN WE DO WANT TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON ONE OF THOSE. THAT WOULD BE THE ONE PROJECT IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT EXPANSION PROJECT, BECAUSE IT'S A PRETTY BIG PROJECT THAT WE'RE UNDERTAKING. BUT IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ON ANYTHING ON THAT LIST, WE'RE READY AND PREPARED TO REVIEW THAT WITH YOU NOW. SO TAKE A MOMENT TO LOOK OVER THAT. AND JUST IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT SOMETHING, LET US KNOW. I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THE CENTRAL COLLEGE UTILITY BURIAL AND STREETSCAPE, IT SAYS IT'S $4 MILLION. WE BUDGETED $4 MILLION. AND IT SAYS THE WORK IS ANTICIPATED TO COST ROUGHLY 1.5 MILLION. DO WE GET TO KEEP THE REST OF THE MONEY, OR IS IT LIKE IS THE REST OF THE MONEY UP FOR GRABS, OR. I DON'T THINK SO, OKAY, I DON'T THAT'S NOT NORMALLY HOW THINGS WORK. SO YEAH, THAT IS I DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME. THAT'S RELATED TO THE TIFF REIMBURSEMENT FOR THE HAMLET, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. AND SO THERE'S AN

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WE WOULD WE WOULD HAVE. OUR ENGINEERS AT FERRIS ALSO HELPED US WITH EVALUATING THE NEED AND THE WARRANT FOR THAT RIGHT NOW. AND LOOKING AT SOME CRASH DATA AND VOLUMES IN THE AREA. SO WE'VE GOT WE'VE DONE A FIT TEST AND AND THEN WE'VE LOOKED AT THE WARRANT AND DETERMINED THAT RIGHT NOW IT'S IT'S NOT WARRANTED FOR THE FULL BLOWN IMPROVEMENT. BUT WE'VE GOT IT TEED UP AND READY TO GO IN THE FUTURE AS THINGS CONTINUE TO DEVELOP OUT THERE AND WE GET MORE TRAFFIC. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT CURRENT PROJECTS? CAN I JUST A GENERAL QUESTION ON THE SIDEWALK REPLACEMENT PROGRAM? DO WE HAVE ANYTHING THAT WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT IN SOME OF THESE NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE WE HAVE ALREADY COMPLETED THE PROJECT, BUT BASED ON THE NEW SIDEWALKS VERSUS EXISTING SIDEWALKS THAT WERE NOT CHANGED, THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF MOVEMENT THAT WE'RE THINKING ABOUT GOING BACK AND DOING THAT. OR IS THAT GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT WILL PUT THE HOMEOWNER ON? THAT'S THAT'S A TIMELY QUESTION. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT JOE AND I HAVE ACTUALLY RECENTLY DISCUSSED, BECAUSE WE HAVE HAD SOME FOLKS REACH OUT AND ASK ABOUT SIDEWALK, WHERE WE HAD PREVIOUSLY GONE THROUGH. YEAH, RIGHT NOW WE'VE BEEN OPERATING UNDER THE DIRECTION FROM A FEW YEARS BACK TO DO THE THE ONE TIME PASS THROUGH, BUT I THINK IT'S A IT'S A TIMELY QUESTION. AND TO THAT END, WE ARE SEEING THAT START TO HAPPEN WHERE THERE ARE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT, YOU KNOW, CERTAIN PANELS WEREN'T IN BAD SHAPE WHEN WE WENT THROUGH JUST A FEW YEARS AGO. AND THEN DUE TO WHATEVER REASONS, FREEZE THAW, YOU KNOW, WORSE WEATHER THAN OTHERS. SUDDENLY THERE ARE SOME PANELS THAT ARE POPPING UP AND BREAKING SO THAT THAT IS IT'S A IT'S A TIMELY DISCUSSION POINT.

YEAH, I'VE NOTICED JUST IN THE AREAS THAT I'VE LOOKED AT THAT IT'S NOT SO MUCH THE ONES THAT WE LEFT IN PLACE, BUT IT'S THE NEW ONES THAT ARE NOW POPPING UP NEXT TO THE OLD EXISTING ONES. SO IT'S NOT EVEN THE ONES THAT WE LEFT. IT WAS THE NEW ONES THAT WE PUT IN THAT ARE DOING THE MOVEMENT OR ROUTES ARE CONTINUING TO GROW AND POP THEM UP. SO COUNCILS PRIOR POLICY DECISION, IF YOU WILL, A FEW YEARS BACK, WAS THAT ONE PASS THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEN WE MOVE ON TO THE NEXT NEIGHBORHOOD. SO IT WASN'T A IT WASN'T A PLAN IN PLACE TO GO BACK AND AND EITHER REDO SIDEWALK PANELS THAT HAD ALREADY BEEN REPLACED OR ADD SIDEWALK PANELS THAT, AS RYAN SAID, WEREN'T DAMAGED AT THE TIME BUT HAD HAD MOVED OR BEEN RAISED SINCE THAT TIME. BUT WE COULD WE COULD CERTAINLY TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT THAT. IT'S I'VE SEEN SEVERAL AREAS WHERE WORK HAS RECENTLY BEEN DONE IN NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE EVEN TAKING A PICTURE, I WAS GOING TO SHOW IT TO YOU LATER TODAY. THIS ONE PANEL, IT'S NOT CRACKED. IT WASN'T REPAIRED BEFORE, BUT IT'S POPPED UP PROBABLY BECAUSE OF A ROOT AND IT'S AT LEAST THREE INCHES UP. WITH THE NATURE OF THE STREET TREES. WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO SEE THAT. YEAH, THOSE TREES GET LARGER. SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT WILL WE'LL BE LOOKING FOR COUNCIL DIRECTION ON. WE LITERALLY JUST WENT THROUGH THIS NEIGHBORHOOD A YEAR AGO AND IT'S THIS ONE PANELS UP AND IT'S A HAZARD. THERE'S A NEW PANEL RIGHT. THAT'S UP. THAT'S AN EXISTING PANEL EXISTING. THAT'S NEVER WAS NEVER REPAIRED NEVER NEEDED TO BE REPAIRED.

IT'S IT'S LIKE IT LOOKS LIKE A ROOT POPPED IT UP AND IT'S ABOUT THREE INCHES ABOVE THE SURFACE. SO WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO MAKE OUR OWN POLICY DECISION AS TO WHETHER THIS BECOMES AN ONGOING CIRCULAR. IT'S JUST GOING TO BECOME A CYCLICAL THING. IF WE DO THAT, WE EITHER

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YOU ALSO SAW THE GENERAL LOCATION OF THE PLAZA, THE BRIDGES, THE GOLD STAR MEMORIAL STATUE, THE MEMORIAL GROVE, AND ALL THOSE BIG LIKE PROGRAMMATIC ELEMENTS OF THE PARK THAT LED US SET THAT IN STONE. GET TO THE 30% LEVEL AND NOW WE'RE IN THE 60% WHERE WE'RE A LITTLE MORE DETAILED. SO THERE'S A LOT OF DETAIL IN THIS PRESENTATION, BUT THIS IS A BIG PROJECT. AND SO WE WANTED TO KIND OF GET YOU GUYS UP TO SPEED ON WHERE THE PROJECT STANDS NOW FROM A SCHEDULE STANDPOINT, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE DESIGN DEVELOPMENT. SO THAT'S LIKE 60% LEVEL DRAWINGS AT THE END OF SEPTEMBER. THIS IS PUSHED A LITTLE BIT INTO MID-OCTOBER. WE WILL GET AN UPDATED CONSTRUCTION ESTIMATE AT THAT 60% LEVEL AS WELL. AND THEN WE ARE LOOKING AT CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS IN FEBRUARY, SOMETHING THAT IS NOT ON THE SCHEDULE. BUT I IF IF THIS PRESENTATION GOES WELL, WHAT WE WOULD PLAN TO BRING TO YOU IS A LIMITED NOTICE TO PROCEED IN PROBABLY END OF OCTOBER, EARLY NOVEMBER. WHAT THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO DO IS TO START SOME OF THE EARLY ASPECTS OF THE PROJECT. IT WILL ALLOW US TO GET GOING SO WE CAN HAVE A GROUNDBREAKING IN NOVEMBER AND DURING VETERANS DAY. WE'RE PLANNING THAT RIGHT NOW. WE WOULD BE DOING STUFF LIKE SITE PREPARATION, INSTALLING A TEMPORARY PARKING LOT SOMEWHERE SOUTH OF VILLAGE CENTER ROAD BECAUSE WE NEED TO PROVIDE PARKING FOR OUR STAFF. WHILE THIS IS ALL UNDER CONSTRUCTION, IT WOULD INCLUDE BUILDING DEMO.

SO JUST LAST WEEK, THE LAND THAT NICO DONATED NORTH OF THE CREEK HAS BEEN TRANSFERRED TO THE CITY. SO THAT'S A GREAT STEP AND OBSTACLE TO GET THROUGH. SO WE WOULD DEMO THE MILL BUILDING, THE OLD DUKE AND DUCHESS AND THE OLD BUILDING. WE ALSO WOULD DO TREE TREE CLEARING AND INVASIVE SPECIES REMOVAL ALONG THE ENTIRE STREAM CORRIDOR THAT HAPPENED THIS FALL. THAT'S WHAT WE PLAN TO DO. WE WOULD BRING ALL THAT WORK TO YOU TO COUNCIL MEETING. YOU WOULD HAVE TO APPROVE THAT LIMITED NOTICE TO PROCEED. BUT THEN WE COULD PROCEED WITH ALL THAT WORK. SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT FROM A SCHEDULE STANDPOINT. TODAY. WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT. WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT PARKING AND ACCESS IN FEBRUARY. WE'RE GOING TO TALK MAINLY ABOUT THE PARK TODAY BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF DETAILS RELATED TO THAT TO GO OVER. SO JUST IN GENERAL, TO REFRESH EVERYONE, THIS IS THE CURRENT SITE PLAN. YOU'VE SEEN ALL THESE BIG PROGRAMMATIC ELEMENTS BEFORE. WE HAVE OUR SURFACE PARKING LOT. WE HAVE

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YOU'LL SEE A LOT OF CONSISTENCY AS I MOVE THROUGH THESE RENDERINGS IN MATERIALS FROM THE FIRST PHASE OF ROSE RUN PARK, BECAUSE WE REALLY WANT TO CREATE A SEAMLESS EXPERIENCE AS PEOPLE ARE TRAVELING THROUGH THE VILLAGE CENTER AND AND THROUGH ROSE RUN PARK. SO WE HAVE THIS REALLY PROMINENT CORNER, AND THIS IS A REALLY DRAW FOR PEOPLE TO COME IN. SO WE HAVE A BRIDGE HERE, AND THEN WE HAVE TWO BRIDGES THAT CREATE OUR ELLIPSE, WHICH IS OUR HEROES WALK. AND I THINK THIS NEXT ONE IS JUST A STREET LEVEL VIEW. SO AGAIN YOU'LL SEE A LOT OF CONSISTENCY IN MATERIALS. THIS IS THE SAME GRANITE AS THE THE PLAZA ON THE FIRST PHASE OF ROSE PARK. IT'S ALSO THE SAME GRANITE AND PIN LETTERING ON STEPHANOFF CIRCLE. SO WE HAVE THIS CONSISTENCY OF MATERIAL AROUND THE VILLAGE CENTER. PAVERS ARE SIMILAR. THIS IS WE'RE TRYING TO BREAK THIS UP WITH LANDSCAPING PLANNERS. SO IT'S NOT JUST KIND OF THIS BIG HOT STONE PLAZA. AND SO THESE LANDSCAPE PLANNERS ALSO WILL BE SEATING WALLS THAT WILL KIND OF BE INVITING AND BRING PEOPLE IN. AND WE HAVE A LOT OF SEVERAL SLIDES ABOUT SEATING TO GO OVER WITH YOU TODAY. BUT ALSO WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH VARIETY AND AMOUNT OF SEATING THAT THIS REALLY IS LIKE A DRAW FOR PEOPLE TO SPEND SOME TIME IN THIS AREA, JUST KIND OF AN UP CLOSE OF WHAT THOSE PLANNERS LOOK LIKE. AND ONE ASPECT OF THIS THAT WE THOUGHT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT IS, AS YOU'RE COMING FROM THE FIRST PHASE OF ROSE RUN PARK IS TO HAVE A REALLY EASY AND ACCESSIBLE WAY DOWN INTO THE VETERANS MEMORIAL AND THE FOUNDERS FIELD. WE DIDN'T WANT TO CUT THAT OFF WITH THE BUILDING, BUT WE WANT THIS TO BE VERY VISIBLE AND INVITING, BECAUSE WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN WORKING UNDER THIS PREMISE THAT THAT GOES BACK TO THE FOCUS GROUP. AND WHAT THE MAYOR'S GOALS FOR THIS HAS BEEN IS NOT TO HAVE A VETERANS MEMORIAL THAT'S TUCKED AWAY THAT NO ONE EVER VISITS, BUT WE REALLY ACCESSIBLE TO THE COMMUNITY. AND SO THIS ACCESS POINT, AS LONG AS WELL AS THE ACCESS FROM MAIN STREET AND HIGH STREET AND VILLAGE HALL ROAD ARE REALLY IMPORTANT. JUST SOME MORE VIEWS OF WHAT YOU MIGHT, YOU KNOW, SEE OUT OF THIS, THIS PLAZA. AND AS IT RELATES TO WHAT THIS PAVILION WILL LOOK LIKE, I THINK THE IN TERMS OF SEATING, WE'RE, YOU KNOW, THE 60% LEVEL IS WHERE YOU DELVE INTO THE DETAILS OF ALL THESE THINGS. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT POSSIBILITIES OF BOTH BISTRO TABLES AND CHAIRS, THE KIND OF IN THE PARKS WORLD, IT'S PEOPLE REALLY LIKE THESE, THIS TYPE OF SEATING BECAUSE IT'S MOVABLE. SO LIKE IF YOU'RE BY YOURSELF WITH YOUR LAPTOP, YOU CAN JUST SIT AT ONE. BUT IF YOU HAVE A BIGGER GROUP, YOU CAN YOU CAN MOVE THEM. IT CREATES MORE OF A DYNAMIC ATMOSPHERE THAN JUST HAVING FIXED SEATING, WHERE YOU JUST KIND OF HAVE TO BE WHERE THE SEATS ARE. AND SO WE'RE LOOKING AT A COMBINATION OF BISTRO TABLES AND CHAIRS, NOT NECESSARILY ORANGE. AND THEN ALSO SOME SOME MAYBE MORE COMFORT OR ROCKING CHAIRS THAT WILL PROVIDE THAT VARIETY AND KIND OF GET THE INTEREST THAT WE WANT FROM PEOPLE TO COME HERE AND SPEND SOME TIME IN THE PARK. WE ALSO IN FEBRUARY AT FEEDBACK THAT COUNCIL GAVE US, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE PLAN LOCATIONS FOR FOOD TRUCKS IF WE WANT TO DO SOMETHING IN THIS PLAZA. SO WE HAVE AT LEAST TWO AREAS WHERE WE CAN PULL FOOD TRUCKS IN, AND WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE EVERYTHING THEY NEED TO OPERATE. THEY WOULD BE

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THAT'S EVERYTHING FOR THE PLAZA. AND THEN WE KIND OF ARE MOVING OVER INTO STREAM ENGAGEMENT AGAIN, PREVIOUS DIRECTION FOR COUNCIL. AND I THINK WHAT'S BEEN VERY POPULAR IN THE FIRST PHASE OF ROSE RUN IS THE GETTING KIDS DOWN INTO THE STREAM. SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE HAD THAT OPPORTUNITY HERE AS WELL. THERE'S TWO LOCATIONS WHERE THAT WILL BE POSSIBLE. ONE IS RIGHT HERE IN BETWEEN THE PAVILION AND THIS BRIDGE. AND THEN WE'RE CALLING THIS CURVE IN THE CREEK HERE, THE SCRAMBLE. AND WE THINK THERE'S ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR A LOT OF THAT STREAM ENGAGEMENT RIGHT THERE, WHERE THE STREAM IS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PARK.

THAT WILL LOOK LIKE VERY SIMILAR MATERIALS TO WHAT'S AT THE FIRST PHASE OF ROSE RUN PARK. THESE ARE JUST SOME SCREENSHOTS OF A STUDY THEY DID TO TRY TO LAY OUT WHAT THESE ROCKS AND THE SLABS WILL LOOK LIKE. THEY'RE PROBABLY SANDSTONE, WHICH IS WHAT WE HAVE OVER AT THE FIRST PHASE. ONE THING WE'RE TRYING TO DO WITH THIS ONE, WHICH I THINK IS A FUN ADDITION, IS TO ACTUALLY DO A CROSSING. SO KIDS, NOT ONLY CAN YOU JUST ACCESS IT, BUT YOU CAN GET TO EITHER SIDE OF THE PARK KIND OF GOING OVER ROCKS IN THE STREAM. SO IT'S THESE REALLY SMALL THINGS THAT ARE SIMPLE, BUT I THINK MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE USABILITY OF THE SPACE AND REALLY GETTING PEOPLE DOWN AND CLOSE TO THE STREAM. SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT. AND IN THE ENGAGEMENT THAT WE THINK THAT WILL BRING TO THE PARK, THIS IS THIS WAS KIND OF A SCARY SLIDE TO ME. I DON'T WANT YOU GUYS TO BE SCARED BY IT, BUT IT'S A DIAGRAM OF OF THE ALL THE LIGHTING THAT WILL BE IN THE PARK. SO THIS IS COMING FROM A COUPLE DIFFERENT PLACES. ONE IS WE'VE HAD SOME CONCERNS OVER THE LEVEL OF LIGHT IN THE FIRST PHASE OF ROSE RUN PARK, THAT IT'S NOT LIT ENOUGH, AND THEN ALSO JUST MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE LIT ENOUGH FOR PEOPLE OF ALL ABILITIES TO BE ABLE TO TO ACCESS THE PARK AND AND USE IT AT DIFFERENT LIGHT LEVELS DURING THE DAY. ESSENTIALLY, I'LL JUST GO THROUGH THIS QUICKLY. WE HAVE OUR, YOU KNOW, TYPICAL STREET LIGHTS THAT YOU'LL SEE WILL BE OUR ACORN FIXTURE THAT YOU SEE EVERYWHERE THROUGHOUT THE VILLAGE CENTER.

WE HAVE PARKING LOT LIGHTING, WHICH IS THE THE GOOSENECK STYLE THAT WE USE THROUGHOUT THE VILLAGE CENTER. THIS IS THE SAME LIGHTING THAT'S AT THE PARKING LOT AT TAYLOR FARM PARK AS WELL. SO THAT GIVES YOU A VISUAL. THE BLUE DOTS ARE PARK PATH LIGHTING AND I HAVE SOME PICTURES AND SUBSEQUENT SLIDES SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE. BUT WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE LIGHTING THESE PATHS SO THEY'RE YOU KNOW, PEOPLE CAN SEE THEM AT NIGHT OR IN THE EVENING AND THAT YOU DON'T FEEL LIKE YOU'RE WALKING INTO THIS KIND OF DARK VOID. WE HAVE SOME FANCY THINGS CALLED THEATER LIGHTS, AND I HAVE SOME IMAGES OF THOSE FOR YOU. AND A QUESTION TO ASK WHAT YOU GUYS THINK AND GET SOME DIRECTION ON RELATED TO THESE LIGHT FEATURES THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. THE VETERANS MEMORIAL ITSELF WILL HAVE WALL LIGHTING ON THE MEMORIAL, AND THEN WE'RE LOOKING AT SOME TREE UPLIGHTS AND SOME FUN THINGS CALLED MOONLIGHTS. AND THEN LIGHTING ALONG THE BRIDGES WILL BE THE SAME LIGHTS YOU SEE AT THE FIRST PHASE. BUT WE'RE GOING TO DO MORE OF THOSE BECAUSE WE'VE HEARD THAT THOSE BRIDGES DON'T HAVE ENOUGH LIGHT. SO YOU'LL SEE THAT SAME FIXTURE, BUT THEY'LL JUST BE MORE OF THEM ON THESE BRIDGES. AND THEN ALSO THERE'S A FLAGPOLE OBVIOUSLY PLANNED NEAR THE VETERANS MEMORIAL. AND MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS LIT AS IT SHOULD BE. SO WE TRY TO LIKE THREAD THAT NEEDLE HERE WITH NOT LIGHTING THINGS TOO MUCH IN NEW ALBANY, BUT ALSO WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE IT'S SAFE FOR EVERYBODY. SO WHILE THERE LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF LIGHTS ON THIS SLIDE, THEY'RE THEY'RE ALL DIFFERENT ENOUGH THAT I DON'T THINK WE'RE LIKE PUTTING A SPOTLIGHT ON THIS, BUT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE JUST GOING TO TAKE A LOT OF CARE AND PAY A LOT OF ATTENTION TO. SO THIS IS WHAT THESE THINGS LOOK LIKE. OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, WITH THE STREETLIGHTS AND THE PARKING LOT LIGHTS LOOK LIKE THESE ARE THE BRIDGE LIGHTS. LIKE I SAID, WE'LL HAVE MORE OF THOSE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE BRIDGE IS LIT. THE PARK PATHWAY LIGHTNING WILL BE THE SAME FIXTURE THAT'S OVER IN THE LIBRARY GARDEN AT THE FIRST PHASE, THE THEATER LIGHTING. I THINK THIS IS CREW STADIUM, RIGHT? YEAH. SO THAT WILL JUST LIGHT SOME OF THE AREAS OF THE PLAZA TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS LIT. AND THEN THIS IS THE LIGHT FEATURE THAT WAS

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JUST A QUESTION OF WHERE YOU PUT IT. YEAH. GET THE IMPACT. PROBABLY CLOSER TO THE PAVILION.

SO IT'S, YOU KNOW AGAIN YOU'RE YOU'RE DRAWING PEOPLE IN FEATURES AND ATTRACTION. THAT'S NOT DISTRACTING FROM THE MEMORIAL. YEAH. RIGHT. RIGHT. SO WE'LL LOOK AT THESE OPTIONS AND LOOK AT LOCATIONS THAT WE THINK WE CAN DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS. BUT I THINK IT COULD BE A REALLY NEAT, IMPACTFUL LIKE SIMPLE FEATURE, BUT SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE REALLY INTERESTING AS PART OF THE PARK. SO YEAH, LOTS OF LIGHTING, LOTS OF DETAILS RELATED TO THAT.

QUICKLY, JUST SOME THINGS ABOUT THE BRIDGES YOU'LL RECOGNIZE. THAT'S THE SAME CABLE BRIDGE WE ARE THINKING OF. MAYBE NOT PAINTING THE THE DECKING LIKE WE HAVE OVER AT THE FIRST PHASE AND JUST HAVE WEATHERED WOOD. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THE DESIGNERS ARE LOOKING INTO. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY THOUGHTS OR INPUT RELATED TO THAT. WE DO HAVE A LOT OF BRIDGE, SO THERE'S A PRETTY BIG SPAN HERE. WE DID FOR A COUPLE REASONS. ONE, WE DIDN'T WANT TO FILL THIS UP WITH A LOT OF LIKE KIND OF RIPRAP. WE WANTED TO BECAUSE WE WANT THIS TO BE VERY TRANSPARENT AND, YOU KNOW, BE ABLE TO SEE THROUGH THE BRIDGE. AND SO THAT THAT THAT MAKES THE SPAN PRETTY LARGE, JUST BASED ON THE THE ELEVATIONS OF THE STREAM CORRIDOR, THESE WILL HAVE A CENTRAL PIER. AND AGAIN, THAT IS TO MAKE IT VERY TRANSPARENT. SO YOU DON'T HAVE A BIG STRUCTURE THERE THAT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, ESTHETICALLY BLOCKING YOUR VIEW. AND SO THE BRIDGE DOESN'T WE'RE TRYING TO NOT MAKE THE BRIDGE AN OBSTACLE, BUT SOMETHING YOU KIND OF SEE THROUGH. AND YOU REALLY JUST LOOK AT THE, THE NATURAL KIND OF FEATURES OF THE STREAM CORRIDOR. SO THAT'S WHAT THE BRIDGES WILL LOOK LIKE. THIS IS JUST MAYBE A RENDERED BRIDGE THAT WOULD BE GOING FROM THE PLAZA DOWN INTO THE VETERANS MEMORIAL. THE VETERANS MEMORIAL ITSELF, AGAIN, VERY DETAILED HERE. BUT THIS IS WHERE WE ARE. THIS IS THE WATER FEATURE THAT WE KNOW IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO KIND OF CREATE THAT SETTING AND THAT FEELING WE WANT OUT OF THE VETERANS MEMORIAL. THIS IS FROM IT'S STILL FROM THE ORIGINAL CONCEPT, BUT WE DO HAVE SOME, SOME THINGS WE'RE TRYING TO WORK THROUGH. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET THE SOUND RIGHT.

AND SO WE TALKED ABOUT THIS AT A DESIGN MEETING. JOE WAS PART OF THAT MEETING. AND WE'VE DECIDED THAT WE WANT TO DO SOMETHING LIKE ONE OF THESE KIND OF CANTILEVER, I GUESS THE WATER OUT FROM THE SURFACE OF THE FOUNTAIN. NOT WE DIDN'T LIKE THESE STREAMS OF WATER AS MUCH. WE WANT TO TRY TO MAKE IT MORE LIKE A SHEET COMING DOWN, BUT THOSE ARE SOME OF LIKE THE REALLY SPECIFIC DETAILS OF THE DESIGN TEAM IS WORKING THROUGH NOW. SO YOU'LL SEE THAT KIND OF AS THIS WATER GOES OVER THE EDGE, IT WILL BE A LITTLE MORE PROMINENT AND SET OUT. SO WE MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN GET THAT SOUND WE WANT. AND THEN AS IT COMES DOWN INTO A GREAT IT KIND OF CREATES THE ATMOSPHERE THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. AND THIS IS JUST TO, YOU KNOW, REMIND EVERYONE WE'RE VERY SENSITIVE TO THE BOUNDARIES OF THE HISTORIC CEMETERY. AND YOU KNOW THAT THE HISTORIC CEMETERY IS THE KIND OF COUNTERPART, I WOULD SAY, TO THE VETERANS MEMORIAL. AND WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE THIS ALL A VERY KIND OF REFLECTIVE AND QUIET PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO COME. AND THEN WE'LL HAVE THAT. WE'LL HAVE INFORMATIONAL SIGNAGE ABOUT THE HISTORY OF THE CEMETERY, AND WE'LL WORK WITH THE CRAB ON THAT AS WELL. THAT'S JUST ONE OF THE THINGS WHEN YOU'RE AT THE 60% LEVEL, WE'RE WORKING ON ALL THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS, AND THAT INCLUDES OUR HISTORIC PRESERVATION REVIEW WITH THE STATE HISTORIC PRESERVATION

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JUST TELL ME WHEN YOU WANT ME TO SWITCH THE SLIDES. OKAY. SOUNDS GOOD. JUST A COUPLE QUESTIONS ON ON THE PARK. I REALLY LIKE WHAT YOU DID UP BY THE MALL WITH THE PAVILION AND HOW YOU SEPARATED IT WITH THE PLANTERS. IT WAS ALWAYS A QUESTION ABOUT THAT BUSY CORNER AND PUTTING SOMETHING THERE, BUT I THINK IT'S A NICE SEPARATION. IF YOU GO BACK TO THE DRAWING, ONE QUESTION ALONG HERE. IS THERE GOING TO BE A WALKWAY ALONG? I COULD SEE HOW YOU ACCESS HERE AND COME IN, BUT IS THERE GOING TO BE A SIDEWALK OR PATH ALONG HERE WHERE PEOPLE CAN ENTER FROM THIS SIDE OR WALK AROUND? OKAY, I COULDN'T TELL FROM THE DRAWING. YEAH, IT'S HARD TO TELL BECAUSE THEY HAVE ALL THESE TREES IN HERE, SO THIS WILL BE A NORMAL SIDEWALK. AND THEN THIS IS AN ENTRY POINT INTO THE PARK AS WELL. AND THIS TAKES YOU TO THE GOLD STAR MEMORIAL THERE. GREAT. THANK YOU. YEAH. THE BRIDGE ON MAIN STREET. IS THAT GOING TO BE REDONE? THAT IS. YES. AND I'M NOT AN ENGINEER SO IT I WON'T GET THE TECHNICAL DETAILS RIGHT, BUT IT WILL BE ENHANCED AND BE LOOKED BETTER AND BE BETTER FOR PEDESTRIANS. AND IF YOU WANT DETAILS, I'LL HAVE TO ASK RYAN. MY CONCERN IS PEDESTRIAN. IT'S REALLY NOT A SAFE PEDESTRIAN PASSAGE THERE NOW, IN MY OPINION, BUT WE'RE GONNA HAVE MORE TRAFFIC THROUGH THERE. YEAH, I'M GLAD WE'RE GONNA DO THAT. YEAH, WE DEFINITELY HAVE PLANS TO. I DON'T KNOW IF WIDEN IS THE RIGHT TERM. YEAH. SO IT'S GOING TO GET SOME ESTHETIC ATTENTION AND THEN THE WING WALLS ARE GOING TO GET REDONE TO HELP WITH THE FLOW THROUGH THERE. SO ANOTHER QUESTION WOULD BE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE INVITING PEOPLE TO BE DOWN INTO THE STREAM AGAIN IS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO WANT TO WALK UNDER THE BRIDGE. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE KIDS WANTING TO WALK. ONCE THEY'RE IN THERE, THEY'RE GOING TO WANT TO GO DOWN TO PHASE ONE. I'M ASSUMING IF I WAS A KID, I WOULD BE LIKE ON MY WAY. YEAH. AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY WAY WE CAN LIMIT THAT OR IF THAT'S OKAY. BUT ONCE YOU HAVE PEOPLE IN, IN THE WATER ON BOTH SIDES THERE. YEAH. SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT. OKAY. IT'S NOT FAIR. I MEAN IT'S UNFORTUNATE WITH BREWDOG RIGHT THERE. IT'S I MEAN I DON'T THINK THAT OBVIOUSLY WE DON'T WANT THAT. RIGHT. AND SO I'M NOT. I'M NOT SURE WHAT SOLUTION WE HAVE OTHER THAN NOT INVITING PEOPLE DOWN TO THE STREAM. BUT YEAH, I DON'T EVEN KNOW. IT'S A GOOD THOUGHT. IT'S SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT, RIGHT? WHAT A SCARY TROLL UNDER THE BED. THE LANDSCAPE HERE, BASICALLY BETWEEN THE TWO PARTS. ARE WE GOING TO TRY TO IMPROVE THAT CORRIDOR AS WELL? ULTIMATELY, LONG TERM, I THINK THE CITY WOULD LOVE TO DO THAT. I WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY DISCUSSION. SO THAT'S OWNED BY THE NEW ALBANY COMPANY NOW. I DON'T THINK WE'VE HAD ANY LIKE SERIOUS DISCUSSIONS ABOUT WHAT COULD HAPPEN THERE, BUT IT IS A GAP BETWEEN BOTH PHASES OF THE PARK THAT I THINK HAS TO BE ADDRESSED AT SOME POINT, MAYBE CONTEMPLATED DURING FUTURE DEVELOPMENT. ABSOLUTELY. WE HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS WHILE WE WERE PLANNING ALL THIS ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY AT SOME POINT OF MAYBE EXPANDING VILLAGE HALL A LITTLE BIT TO INCORPORATE MORE

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SO THIS IS RESTROOMS AND A STORAGE FACILITY BASED ON THE DIRECTION COUNCIL GAVE US IN FEBRUARY. AND THESE ARE GOING TO BE TAYLOR FARM LEVEL TAYLOR FARM LEVEL. BECAUSE WE KNOW THOSE ARE REALLY POPULAR. YEAH. WE SET A STANDARD. WE SET A RESTROOM STANDARD AND TWO RESTROOMS TWO AND A STORAGE ROOM FOR THE THE THING WE'VE LEARNED IN THESE PARKS IS THAT WE NEED EQUIPMENT NEARBY. AND SO THERE'S A STORAGE ROOM IN THIS AS WELL. OKAY. YEP. AND THEN YEAH. SO THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. SO THIS IS AGAIN SAME CONCEPT AS THE BRIDGES. WE DIDN'T WANT THIS PAVILION TO BE AN OBSTACLE LIKE VISUALLY. SO WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE THIS AS TRANSPARENT AS POSSIBLE. SO YOU SEE THROUGH THIS INTO THE PARK AND INTO THE VETERANS MEMORIAL.

THE DESIGNERS LIKE TO CALL IT A PIECE OF FURNITURE IN THE PARK INSTEAD OF A BUILDING. SO THAT'S KIND OF THE THE CONCEPT THAT WE WERE GOING, THE VISION WE WERE GOING FOR. SO, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE WE JUST HAD A MEETING LAST THURSDAY WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME TALKING ABOUT IS WHAT IS UNDER THIS. SO SOME OF THAT MOVABLE FURNITURE DO WE WANT AT AT THE END OF THIS I GUESS I DON'T HAVE A GREAT YOU CAN SEE IT HERE. WE'RE CALLING THIS THE OCULUS.

SO THAT GIVES SOME LIGHT DOWN INTO THIS PART OF THE PAVILION, WHETHER THAT'S A FIRE PIT OR LIKE A ROUND TABLE OR SOMETHING, OR JUST SOME SEATING UNDERNEATH THAT, THE FIRE PIT. WE HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR THE DESIGNERS, LIKE HOW DO YOU DO A FIRE PIT IN A MUNICIPAL PARK? MAKE IT SAFE. SO THEY'RE GOING TO GIVE US SOME MORE INFORMATION ON THAT. AND THEN YES, THESE IN THE MIDDLE ARE SLATS THAT THEN LET SOME LIGHT DOWN INTO IT. BUT ALSO YOU HAVE SOME COMPLETELY COVERED AREAS AS WELL. SO IF THERE IS RAIN OR WEATHER THAT YOU KNOW YOU WANT TO BE OUT OF, OUT OF THAT, THERE'LL BE SOME PLACE FOR YOU TO SIT UNDER THE PAVILION THERE USING A NATURAL GAS FIREPLACE OR WOOD BURNING FIREPLACE. IT WOULD BE NATURAL GAS WITH SOME SAFETY TOP. YEAH, THAT'D BE GOOD. YEAH. SO WE'RE JUST THEY'RE GETTING US SOME SPECS ON WHAT THAT COULD BE SO WE CAN MAKE A DECISION IF THAT'S SOMETHING WE WANT TO INCLUDE OR NOT. AGAIN, TRYING TO THINK LIKE WHAT WILL BRING PEOPLE HERE AND HAVE SOME LIKE. YEAH.

SO LIKE I LOVE LIKE THE SEASONAL FURNITURE BUT EVEN I DON'T KNOW, LIKE FIXED FURNITURE THAT'S MADE OUT OF LIKE TEAK OR THE SAME MATERIAL THAT WE'RE MAKING THE, THE BRIDGES OUT OF, LIKE WE WERE JUST AT THE HIGH LINE IN NEW YORK AND ALONG THE PATH THEY'VE JUST GOT LIKE CHAISE LOUNGES THAT ARE WOOD AND JUST PEOPLE ARE JUST, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE

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THE YES, THERE'S AN UPDATE TO THE PLANS FOR THE RENOVATION OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. YOU KNOW, THE FOCUS HAS BEEN REALLY TO CREATE ADDITIONAL WORKSPACE AND, AND LARGER AND MORE MEETING SPACES IN HOPES OF KEEPING OUR STAFF TOGETHER AS LONG AS POSSIBLE FOR COMMUNICATIONS AND CULTURAL REASONS. AND SO AND YOU'LL SEE IN THE SLIDES TO COME THAT THAT'S KIND OF A YOU'LL SEE THAT COME AS WE LOOK AT THE FLOOR PLAN. THE CURRENT PD IS 20 YEARS OLD AND KING WAS THE WERE THE ARCHITECTS FOR KING OR FOR THE DESIGN. AND THEY HAD ODDLY SAID IT WOULD LAST ABOUT 20 YEARS. SO WE'RE COMING UP ON THE 20 YEAR MARK. SO THEY WERE PRETTY ACCURATE ON THAT. THE SQUARE FOOTAGE BEFORE. WELL CURRENTLY THE SQUARE FOOTAGE IS 20,488. AND THEN AFTER THE RENOVATION IT WOULD BE 25,750. SO SO OFF TO THE RIGHT THERE. THAT'S A THAT'S A VIEW OF THE DRAWINGS AT THIS POINT THAT HAS BEEN IN FRONT OF NEW ALBANY'S ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD OR NEW ALBANY COMPANIES ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD. AND SO THAT'S BASICALLY LOOKING FROM VILLAGE HALL SIDE AND, AND BACK FROM WHERE THE PARK WILL BE. THE PLAN RIGHT NOW DOES OFFER ADDITIONAL SPACES, LARGER CONFERENCE ROOMS. IT INCLUDES A STORM SHELTER.

IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE SET OUT TO CREATE FOR THE PD, BUT THE CURRENT STANDARD FOR BUILDING POLICE REQUIRE THAT. SO IT'S ACTUALLY IT'S NOT JUST A STORM SHELTER ALL BY ITSELF.

IT'S ALSO THE ROLL CALL ROOM. SO IT HAS A DUAL PURPOSE. THE STORM SHELTER IS BASICALLY IT'S REINFORCED WALLS. AND THEY HAVE BIG LIKE SHUTTERS THAT COME DOWN ON THE INSIDE TO PROTECT THE WINDOWS. WE ALSO ARE PLANNING ON REMOVING THE DEFENSIVE TACTICS AREA THAT WAS THERE THAT WE'VE TO SOME EXTENT OUTGROWN AS FAR AS SIZE WISE, AND TO MAKE MORE ROOM FOR SOME OF THE OFFICE SPACE. SO THIS IS A DRAWING OF THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING. IT'S PRETTY OBVIOUS THE ADDITION FROM THE FRONT, IT'S THE THE BRICK IS THE CURRENT BUILDING. AND TO THE LEFT WHICH WOULD BE THE VILLAGE HALL SIDE, YOU'LL SEE THE WHITE SIDED ADDITION. AND SO IT TAKES US TO, TO GIVE YOU KIND OF AN IDEA, THE DRIVEWAY LEADING INTO THE PD. THAT ADDITION TAKES YOU CLOSER TO THAT, THAT DRIVEWAY. THIS IS THE FLOOR PLAN. SO THE BLUE WHICH IS YOU CAN SEE DOMINATES THE CENTER OF THE BUILDING FROM THE FRONT. THE FRONT DOORS ARE DOWN BY THE LEGEND. AND YOU'LL SEE THAT BLUE CARRIES ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE BUILDING, ALL THE WAY TO THE BACK BAYS THAT ARE IN THE BACK. THOSE AREAS ARE GENERALLY IT'S THE RADIO ROOM, THE LOBBY, THE HOLDING FACILITY, THE PROPERTY ROOM, AND THE BACK BAYS. THOSE ARE TYPICALLY REINFORCED AREAS, SO THEY'RE DIFFICULT AND LABOR INTENSIVE TO ALTER. THAT WORKED OUT WELL FOR AS FAR AS WHAT WE WANTED TO ACCOMPLISH. IF YOU'LL SEE THE RED WALLS THROUGHOUT THE BUILDING, PARTICULARLY ON EITHER SIDE, THE RED ON THE OUR NEW WALLS ARE ADDITIONS. SO YOU'LL SEE THAT THAT ADDITION ON THE RIGHT OR ON THE LEFT, I'M SORRY, IS THE THE WHITE AREA THAT YOU SAW FROM THE STREET VIEW. AND THEN ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE THERE ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER, THAT TOP RIGHT. THAT'S THE ADDITION THAT INCLUDES THE STORM SHELTER AND THAT'S THAT GREEN OUTLINE ROLL CALL ROOM. AND SO THOSE ARE THE TWO ADDITIONS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. ALL THE REMAINING RED LINES THAT YOU SEE WITHIN THE BLUE AREA OR ON THE LOWER RIGHT OR MOVING INTERIOR WALLS. AND I'LL BE FREE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY. WHERE ARE YOU GUYS GOING TO LIVE AND OPERATE DURING THE CONSTRUCTION? WELL, JOE HAS GRACIOUSLY OFFERED TO LET US COME OVER HERE AND HANG OUT. SO WE'LL BE HERE AT VILLAGE HALL. MANY OF US WILL BE HERE AT VILLAGE HALL. AND I THINK THAT WHAT WE'RE

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NOW ARE ALL THE EXTERIOR WALLS REINFORCED. ARE THEY CINDER BLOCK, ALL THE. WELL, JUST THE NATURE OF THE CONSTRUCTION. YEAH. IT'S IT'S THEY'RE BRICK AND THEN THE CINDER BLOCK BEHIND THAT. SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE JUST THE NATURE OF THE MATERIAL USED. IT'S REINFORCED.

THAT'S LIKE THE EXTENSION THAT YOU'RE PUTTING ON ON THIS SIDE. THE EXTENSION. YEAH. IT'S IT'S NOT BRICK. IT'S, IT'S, IT'S NOT GOING TO HAVE THAT THAT ADDITIONAL LAYER. CORRECT.

THOSE WOULD BE CINDER BLOCK THOUGH. WOULD IT BE CINDER BLOCK. YEAH I BELIEVE SO.

INSTEAD OF PUTTING IT OUT IT SHOULD HAVE THE SAME BALLISTIC QUALITIES AS THE REST OF THE BUILDING. THE THE CITED FINISH IS MORE FOR APPEARANCES. THE ARCHITECTS FROM THE ARC RECOMMENDED THAT WE COME UP WITH A DIFFERENT LOOK FOR THE ADDITION, AS OPPOSED TO TRYING TO GET THE BRICK TO MATCH THE EXISTING BRICK. BUT ONE OF OUR CONCERNS IS THAT IT WOULD HAVE THE SAME STRUCTURAL INTEGRITY THAT THE REST OF THE BUILDING HAS ARTISTIC QUALITY, I GUESS.

WHAT ABOUT THE WINDOWS? ARE THEY BALLISTIC QUALITY OR. YES. OKAY, GOOD TO KNOW. YEAH. SO IN TERMS OF KIND OF BUDGET WE REMAIN ON TRACK. SO I THINK THAT IS ALL GOOD. YOU KNOW WHEN WE PAUSE THE THE PROJECT A COUPLE YEARS AGO THE PARKING GARAGE CAME OUT OFF OUT OF WHAT WE WERE PLANNING. THE EXPANSION TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT CAME INTO THE PROJECT. WE WERE STILL LOOKING AT KIND OF THAT OVERALL 50 MILLION. SO THE 30% ESTIMATES THAT MESSER HAVE DONE IS THE PARK PART IS ABOUT 34 POINT SOMETHING MILLION. I THINK THE ESTIMATE WAS 6.4. IS THAT CORRECT? NO, I THINK I THINK THE NUMBER WAS SEVEN, WASN'T IT? BUT GIVE OR TAKE, MAYBE SEVEN AT THE HIGHEST. SO WE'RE TRACKING ALL WITHIN, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY LESS THAN WHAT THAT ORIGINAL BUDGET WE THOUGHT WE HAD A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO WAS. AND SO I THINK POSITIVE NEWS IN TERMS OF WHERE THE ESTIMATES ARE COMING IN FOR THE ENTIRE PROJECT, EVEN ADDING IN IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT EXPANSION. SO IT'S KIND OF WHERE THE PROJECT STANDS. AGAIN, WE'LL GET ANOTHER ESTIMATE AT THE 60% LEVEL. SO THAT INCLUDES ALL THESE LIKE KIND OF MORE DETAILS THAT WE'RE WORKING THROUGH NOW. AND BRINGING WE'LL CHECK IN WITH COUNCIL. BUT IN ORDER TO DO A GROUNDBREAKING ON VETERANS DAY, WE'LL BRING A LIMITED NOTICE TO PROCEED IN FRONT OF YOU TO DO ALL THAT EARLY STUFF AND THE DEMO AND THE TREE CLEARING, AND THEN BRING THE FINAL GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE BACK TO COUNCIL EARLY NEXT YEAR. SO WE ALREADY APPROVE THE BUDGET FOR ALL THIS. IT'S COMPLICATED. I MEAN, YEAH, NO, IT'S COMPLICATED. I MEAN, WE HAD A PROJECT, THERE WAS A BUDGET. THERE WAS IT'S A DIFFERENT PROJECT. IT'S A DIFFERENT PROJECT. SO WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS AGAIN. BUT I GUESS THE POSITIVE NEWS IS WE'RE LESS THAN WHAT THAT ORIGINAL BUDGET WAS. JUST TO CLARIFY, WAS THE ESTIMATE THAT YOU JUST SAID, INCLUSIVE OF THE 7 MILLION FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT OR EXTRA. SO 35 AND SEVEN. OKAY. THANK YOU. YEAH. GOOD CLARIFICATION. ALL IN. THE PLAN FOR THE ORIGINAL PROJECT WAS TO ISSUE ROUGHLY $50 MILLION WORTH OF DEBT TO COVER IT. THAT INCLUDED THE VETERANS MEMORIAL AND THE PARKING GARAGE. WE WOULD USE THAT SAME FUNDING STRATEGY FOR THIS. AND ANY OTHER POTENTIAL PROJECTS THAT YOU WOULD CHOOSE TO INCLUDE, WHICH WILL BE DISCUSSING LATER IN THE DAY. IN CHIEF, THAT'S 7 MILLION IS JUST FOR IMPROVEMENTS ON THE PROPERTY RIGHT HERE BY VILLAGE. IT DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH MAYBE THE SHOOTING RANGE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. CORRECT? CORRECT. ALL RIGHT. LET ME GET BACK OVER HERE. AND. THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO THOSE UPDATES. AND BETHANY WILL GO THROUGH OUR FISCAL OUTLOOK. IS THERE A QUICKER. YES. ALL RIGHT. WELL EVERYBODY'S BEEN WAITING FOR YOU HERE. THE MONEY. SO FOR OUR CAPITAL FUNDING, JUST WANTED TO REMIND YOU OF, YOU KNOW, ALL OF OUR CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT WE DO

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BUT JUST A QUICK PICTURE OF VISUALIZATION OF HOW MUCH WE KEEP AND HOW MUCH WE SHARE. SO THE NEW ALBANY REVENUE, THE MAIN SOURCES THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT AGAIN TODAY ARE WE KEEP 67% ON AVERAGE RIGHT NOW OF THE INCOME TAX THAT COMES INTO THE CITY. THE OTHER PORTION WE SHARE. JUST A REMINDER, HOWEVER, WITHIN THE SHARING, WE ALSO HAVE THE AMOUNTS THAT ARE WITHHELD FOR INFRASTRUCTURE. SO $0.30 ON THE DOLLAR TO THE COMMUNITY AUTHORITY AND $0.30 ON THE DOLLAR TO OUR INFRASTRUCTURE FUND THAT ALSO FUND THE BUSINESS PARK SIDE OF THINGS. SO AGAIN, WE'RE PRIMARILY TALKING ABOUT THE NEW ALBANY REVENUE THAT WE KEEP. A REMINDER OF THE BREAKDOWN, THE GENERAL FUND, WE RECEIVE 83.5% INTO THE GENERAL FUND. AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE UPDATED THREE YEARS AGO WHEN WE ADDED THE VILLAGE CENTER FUND SOURCE FOR DIFFERENT PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE COMMITTED TO WITHIN THE VILLAGE CENTER. AND THE GENERAL FUND PRIMARILY PROVIDES FOR OPERATING. BUT ALSO WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO TRANSFER SIGNIFICANT AMOUNTS OF MONEY TO THE CAPITAL FUNDS TO HELP SUPPLEMENT THE DIFFERENT CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE. WE STILL HAVE 12% TO CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT, AND PARK IMPROVEMENT GETS THREE. SO THIS IS THE CAPITAL FUNDING AT A GLANCE SINCE 2018. AND JUST, YOU KNOW, AS ADRIAN MENTIONED EARLIER ON, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO SOME PRETTY CRAZY SIGNIFICANT, IMPORTANT THINGS. SO 99.3 MILLION, JUST SHY OF $100 MILLION SINCE 2018, INVESTED IN GENERAL CAPITAL PROJECTS. WE HAVE HAD THE BUSINESS PARK 310 MILLION, PRIMARILY WITH GRANTS AND DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO PROVIDE FOR WITH THAT. BUT IF YOU BREAK DOWN THE 99.3 MILLION THAT BOTTOM ROW, YOU'VE BEEN INVESTED 47.7 MILLION IN PARKS, PATHS AND OPEN SPACES, 43.2 IN ROADS AND UTILITIES AND 8.4 IN FACILITIES.

AND JUST A REMINDER THAT THE PARKS ROSE AROUND ONE TAYLOR FARM POCKET PARKS HARLEM ROAD TRAIL PURCHASE VARIOUS STREET PROGRAMS FOR ROADS AND UTILITIES. 62 161 MARKET STREET FACILITIES. AMPHITHEATER. PICKLEBALL RECREATION COMPLEX AND THEN CITY FACILITIES.

SERVICE BUILDING EXPANSION. SALTBURN IMPROVEMENTS, SOLAR PANELS AND THE FACILITIES.

PARKING AND MAINTENANCE PROGRAM. SO PRETTY SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENTS IN ORDER TO. KEEP THE THE CITY BEAUTIFUL. THIS IS MY PLUG FOR OPEN GOV AND OUR TRANSPARENCY PORTAL. I JUST TO REMIND YOU THAT IT'S OUT THERE. THIS IS A JUST A BREAKDOWN BETWEEN THE TWO CATEGORIES OF GENERAL CAPITAL AND BUSINESS PARK. BUT I WANTED TO SHOW YOU MAINLY I DROVE TOO FAST. THERE YOU GO. THIS IS ALSO A VISUALIZATION OF THE DIFFERENT INVESTMENTS THAT WE'VE MADE IN THOSE CATEGORIES FOR GENERAL CAPITAL THAT WE'VE HAD OVER THE YEARS. AND IF ANYBODY NEEDS HELP GETTING INTO OPEN GOV, IT'S ACTUALLY ON THE WEBSITE. YOU CAN GET TO IT THROUGH OUR WEBSITE FOR FINANCIAL REPORTING. BUT JUST TO REMIND YOU, IT'S OUT THERE FOR YOUR USE. AND THEN IF THERE'S ANYTHING ADDITIONAL THAT YOU WANT TO SEE, LET ME KNOW. ALL RIGHT. LOOKING TO 26 TO 2030. SO THIS IS THE PERIOD THAT WE'RE REALLY KIND OF TALKING ABOUT MAINLY 2026.

THE FISCAL OUTLOOK THAT WE HAVE I'VE GONE THROUGH AND I'VE BEEN UPDATING THE INCOME TAX

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WE'RE CONTINUE TO SEE RECORD SETTING COLLECTIONS COMPARED TO 2020 AND EARLIER. WHENEVER I DO PROJECTIONS FOR THESE, I USUALLY BASE IT ON THE AVERAGE COLLECTIONS BETWEEN YEARS, BECAUSE THAT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO. IT'S MORE DEPENDENT ON THE ECONOMY AND AND HOW INDIVIDUALS AND BUSINESSES ARE DOING. SO THERE COULD BE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT ARE NOT AS STEADY AS WITHHOLDING WOULD BE. 27 TO 29. I WILL BE BUILDING PROJECTIONS BASED ON THE REVIEW OF CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITY AND ABATEMENT EXPIRATION, BUT ALSO THAT IS THE NET PROFIT ALSO GOES WITHIN THAT. I'M NOT SURE WHY THAT WAS ON THAT LINE WITHHOLDING, WHICH IS OUR MAIN DRIVER. AND THIS IS WHAT REALLY PROVIDES FOR MOST OF WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO DO IN 2025. WE'RE REALIZING GROWTH IN CONSTRUCTION WITHHOLDING, AS WE'VE HAD OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, 2026. WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO SEE THAT. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A MORE DETAILED LOOK IN THE INCOME TAX. WHEN WE DO THE OPERATING BUDGET. WE'RE CONTINUING TO EVALUATE THAT. ONCE I GET THE FIRST NINE MONTHS OF INCOME TAX, I GENERALLY HAVE A BETTER IDEA OF WHAT THE REST OF THE YEAR IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE. AND BEYOND THERE'S CRA ABATEMENTS THAT ARE EXPIRING. CONSTRUCTION WITHHOLDING IS STILL CONTINUING.

AND THEN THERE WILL BE DIFFERENT ASSUMPTIONS THAT I'LL APPLY FOR 27 AND 2030. ALL OF THIS TO SAY, I THINK I HAVE ONE MORE SLIDE ON. THIS IS A BREAKDOWN OF WHAT WE'VE COLLECTED FOR INCOME TAX OVER THE SEVERAL YEARS. AND AGAIN, THIS IS ALSO JUST FOR THE GENERAL FUND, A BREAKDOWN BETWEEN WITHHOLDING NET PROFITS AND INDIVIDUAL INCOME, INDIVIDUAL INCOME TAX. AND THAT IS AGAIN A DRIVER OF WHAT WE'RE PROVIDING CAPITAL PROJECTS FOR.

BUT. WHERE YOU GUYS ARE GETTING TO THIS PROCESS, WE'RE LOOKING TO ASSESS THE DIFFERENT PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE. THIS IS JUST WHAT WE DO WITH OUR CAPITAL. WE'RE DEVELOPING WHERE WE'RE CREATING THE LIST OF CAPITAL PROJECTS. WE ESTABLISH WHAT WE'RE GOING TO INVEST IN, AND THEN WE COME TO YOU FOR THE ENDORSEMENT OF THAT PROGRAM. THIS WAS THE SLIDE THAT I FIGURED EVERYBODY WOULD WANT TO FOR 2026. WE HAVE GONE THROUGH AND LOOKED AT WHAT WE BELIEVE IS AVAILABLE TO FUND. SO THERE ARE THE ANNUAL PROJECTS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE DEVELOPED OVER THE YEARS. WE HAVE SET FOR 2026, 5.25 MILLION THAT WILL BE INVESTING IN AT THOSE ANNUAL PROJECTS. WE'RE PROPOSING TO INVEST IN. THERE'S $47 MILLION THAT WE HAVE IN COMMITTED PROJECTS, AND THESE ARE PROJECTS THAT ARE DOWN THE ROAD WHERE WE'VE HAD YOUR INPUT OVER THE YEARS, AND THE BALL IS ROLLING ON THOSE. AND SO SOME OF THOSE ARE THE REMAINING PORTION. WHAT THE TOPIC OF CONVERSATION FOR THE CENTRAL COLLEGE 605 PUBLIC UTILITY AND STREETSCAPE. SO THE 1.5 MILLION THAT WAS SPENT THIS YEAR IS FOR THE UTILITY SIDE OF THINGS. THE REMAINING BUDGET FOR THAT IS $3 MILLION. AND IN FACT, ACTUALLY, WE ADDED WE HAD TO ADD A LITTLE BIT A HALF A MILLION TO THE BALANCE OF THE 4 MILLION THAT WAS IN 25. AND THAT WILL BE MOVED TO 2026. THERE'S A WALNUT 605 CONTRIBUTION THAT WE'VE COMMITTED TO IN ORDER TO CONTRIBUTE TO THAT INTERSECTION. ROSE RUN TWO VETS MEMORIAL IS IN THERE. AND THEN ALSO THE POLICE FACILITIES ADDITION CONSTRUCTION. SO THOSE ARE PROJECTS THAT WE'VE ALREADY COMMITTED TO. THAT'S FUNDING THAT YOU'VE APPROVED IN THE PAST. AND THEN WE ARE ALSO WE HAVE A LIST OF $18 MILLION WORTH OF PERSPECTIVE PROJECTS. AND WHAT I'M COMING TO SAY IS THAT WE HAVE THE FUNDING TO DO ALL OF THIS. AND SO THIS IS THE PROGRAM THAT WE ARE PROPOSING.

WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH IT AFTER LUNCH AND GO INTO DETAIL, AND WE'RE GOING TO MAINLY TALK

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[6. COMMUNICATIONS UPDATE:]

AND THAT WAS PRETTY, PRETTY INTERESTING. ON A WHAT WAS IT, A WEDNESDAY MORNING WE FORGOT.

BUT YEAH, IT WAS A IT WAS A GREAT SUCCESS. WE ACTUALLY LEARNED A LOT IN THE PROCESS, AND WE ADDED SOME THINGS TO OUR COMMUNITY PLAN, TO OUR COMMUNITY COMMUNICATIONS CRISIS PLAN, IN COLLABORATING WITH APD AND WITH OTHERS. SO WE THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR SUPPORT. WE HAVE COVERED SO MANY EVENTS. I ACTUALLY FORGET HOW MANY EVENTS WE COVERED BECAUSE THERE HAS BEEN SO MANY OF THEM, BUT WE HAVE OUR FLICKR PAGE WHERE WE PUT UP EVERYTHING THAT YOU COULD EVER WANT TO SEE IN THAT MANNER. AND THAT INCLUDES NOT JUST EVENT COVERAGE AND POST-EVENT COVERAGE, BUT ALSO EVENT PROMOTION. WE'VE INCREASED OUR COMMUNICATIONS MARKETING EFFORT TO OUR COMMUNITY EVENTS AND PROGRAMING. AND IF YOU CAN TELL BY THE EVENTS THAT YOU HAVE ATTENDED, YOU HAVE SEEN PROBABLY A WHOLE LOT MORE PEOPLE, AND IT JUST KEEPS INCREASING TO THE POINT THAT WE'RE MAXING OUT SOME OF OUR SPACES IN WHICH WE DO HOLD THE EVENTS. WE'RE EXPLORING NEW WAYS AND HAVE EXPLORED NEW WAYS WITH NEW ALBANY POLICE DEPARTMENT TO HELP WITH RECRUITING. WE'VE HAD SOME FUN VIDEOS THAT HAVE STARTED TO GO OUT OF JUST THAT. THAT AMAZING THINGS THAT OUR POLICE OFFICERS DO SOMETIMES ON A DAILY BASIS, ESPECIALLY HOW THEY HANDLE ANIMALS. IT'S REALLY GREAT. WE HAVE LAUNCHED THE CHAT BOT.

HAVE YOU GUYS USED A CHATBOT YET? OKAY, IF YOU HAVE NOT YET ON OUR WEBSITE, WE HAVE A LOT I CAN'T TALK, IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE BEHIND THE CAMERA, NOT IN FRONT OF HIM. WE'VE LAUNCHED ASK ABBY AND IT IS A FANTASTIC RESOURCE THAT ACTUALLY SCANS OUR WEBSITE, AND YOU CAN CHAT WITH IT LIKE A PERSON. THAT HELPS ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE COMMUNICATION TIMES WHEN PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO FIND JUST SIMPLE INFORMATION INSTEAD OF CALLING, THEY CAN ACTUALLY JUST GO ON OUR WEBSITE. IT'S VERY USER FRIENDLY. IT'LL GIVE YOU AT LEAST MOST OF THE ANSWERS THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR.

IF NOT, IT'LL DIRECT YOU TO WHAT TO DO NEXT, WHICH IS GREAT. LAUNCHED A REFRESHED CONNECTS NEWSLETTER, WHICH IS OUR WEEKLY NEWSLETTER. IF YOU'RE NOT SUBSCRIBED, PLEASE DO. WE'VE LAUNCHED THE EMPLOYEE INTRANET. THIS HAS BEEN A BIG PROJECT LED BY MADISON AND SHREYA WHO'S NOT HERE. AND THAT WAS THAT WAS A VERY INTENSE PROJECT. THERE'S A LOT OF THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WORK IN NEW ALBANY NOW AND THEY NEED INFORMATION AND IN ORDER TO GET IT NOT JUST INTO BE INFORMATIVE, BUT ALSO TO BE USER FRIENDLY AND ASSIST IN GETTING ALL THE INFORMATION THAT PEOPLE NEED. THAT WAS A BIG DEAL. OUR ALL STAFF MEETINGS, YOU GUYS OBVIOUSLY HAVEN'T ATTENDED OUR ALL STAFF MEETINGS, BUT THEY'VE BECOME BIGGER AND BIGGER TO THE POINT WHERE WE'RE HAVING TO EXPAND THE SPACES IN WHICH WE GO TO IN ORDER TO DO THESE THINGS. I THINK I HAD A COUPLE OTHER, OKAY, WE JUST CAME BACK FROM VEGAS AND WE CARRIED SOME

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OKAY, SAME. NICE JOB. WHICH YOU. HEY EVERYBODY. I DO A LOT OF THE WRITING. ALL OF YOU GOT TO PLAY A FUN GAME CALLED GET TO KNOW YOU AND Q&A FOR HEALTHY NEW ALBANY MAGAZINE. THANK YOU ALL FOR DOING THAT WITH ME AND PUTTING UP WITH ME. BUT THIS IS MAILCHIMP SUCCESS THIS YEAR, AND OUR WEEKLY E-BLASTS CONNECTS IS WHAT I MANAGE EVERY SINGLE WEEK. AND AS YOU CAN SEE, 67.83%. THAT'S UP FROM LAST YEAR. IT'S WELL ABOVE THE INDUSTRY STANDARD. OUR CLICK RATES ARE UP. WE JUST KEEP SEEING SUCCESS. NOW THERE IS AN ASTERISK THERE BECAUSE THESE NUMBERS ARE WHEN WE EXCLUDE THE MPP WHICH IS THE MAIL PRIVACY PROTECTION. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I'M SO GRATEFUL MADISON CAME ON BOARD BECAUSE SHE SHE TEACHES ME THINGS EVERY SINGLE DAY. BUT THIS IS BASICALLY AN APPLE MAIL FEATURE THAT ENHANCES USER PRIVACY BY HIDING YOUR IP ADDRESS. AND YOUR DATA PREVENTS TRACKING, WHICH IS GREAT WHEN YOU'RE THE USER. NOW, WHEN YOU'RE THE MARKETER, IT'S SOMETIMES CAN ENHANCE OUR NUMBERS. SO THESE ARE THE NUMBERS IN WHICH WE'VE SHOWCASED AND JOSH HAS SHOWCASED TO YOU EVERY SINGLE YEAR. SO WE CONTINUE TO SHOWCASE THEM BECAUSE WE CAN CONTINUE TO SEE GROWTH, EVEN WITH IT BEING A LITTLE INFLATED. MADISON, YOU TOLD ME WHEN WE LOOK AT IT WITHOUT THE MPP, BECAUSE SHE RAN THE NUMBERS FOR US, WE'RE AT 31%, WHICH IS STILL ABOVE THE INDUSTRY AVERAGE AT 28.8%. THE YEAR IS STILL NOT OUT. WE'RE STILL GROWING. SO WE EXPECT TO HIT THE END OF THE YEAR EVEN ABOVE WHAT LAST YEAR WAS. SO OUR NUMBERS CONTINUE TO REMAIN STRONG AND I ENJOY DOING IT EVERY WEEK. AND I HOPE YOU GUYS ARE OPENING IT. IF YOU'RE NOT, I CAN TELL BECAUSE I GET ALL OF YOUR. YES IT IS. WELL, HELLO, I'M OFFICIALLY THE ONLY PERSON KEEPING YOU BETWEEN YOUR FOOD, SO AS MUCH AS I LOVE NUMBERS, I'LL HOPEFULLY GIVE YOU A GREAT SUMMARY BECAUSE WE'VE HAD AN INCREDIBLE YEAR. I REMEMBER MY SECOND DAY AT NEW ALBANY WAS THIS MEETING LAST YEAR, AND IT WAS AN AWESOME ONBOARDING OPPORTUNITY, AND WE WERE EXCITED ABOUT THE SOCIAL MEDIA NUMBERS LAST YEAR. SO BUCKLE UP, BECAUSE THIS YEAR IS EVEN BETTER. LAST YEAR WE HAVE THE TOTAL IMPRESSIONS, BUT WE ALSO HAVE YEAR TO DATE. YEAR TO DATE WAS JANUARY 1ST OF THIS YEAR TO AUGUST 31ST OF THIS YEAR. SO JUST FROM JANUARY TO THE END OF AUGUST, WE HAVE ALREADY SURPASSED LAST YEAR'S TOTAL IMPRESSIONS AND IMPRESSIONS ARE HOW MANY TIMES A POST OR A PIECE OF CONTENT HAS APPEARED ON SOMEONE'S SCREEN. SOMETIMES THEY CAN BE DUPLICATES, OR IT MIGHT BE FROM AN AD OR ORGANICALLY. BUT WE'VE ALREADY PASSED AND WE'RE EXPECTED TO BLOW THOSE NUMBERS AWAY IN TERMS OF ENGAGEMENTS. AGAIN, JUST FROM THE BEGINNING OF THIS YEAR TO THE END OF AUGUST, WE'VE SURPASSED LAST YEAR'S TOTAL NUMBERS, AND WE'RE STILL KICKING UP AND WORKING ON MOVING THINGS FORWARD AND ON A FEW OF OUR DIFFERENT PLATFORMS AS WELL. AND I JUST PULLED THE FOLLOWER ACCOUNTS FOR INSTAGRAM AND FACEBOOK. OUR FOLLOWERS HAVE ACTUALLY SURPASSED THE AMOUNT OF RESIDENTS THAT WE HAVE IN THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY. AND IF YOU COMBINE ALL OF OUR FOLLOWERS ACROSS THE BOARD,

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THEY LOVE TO WATCH IT. THEY LOVE TO ENGAGE WITH IT. BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, OUR STUDENTS ARE THE CORE OF OUR COMMUNITY. I REMEMBER INTERVIEWING FOR NEW ALBANY AND REMEMBERING IN THE ANNUAL REPORT THAT OUR PEOPLE ARE OUR AUDIENCE. THEY'RE THE CENTER OF WHAT WE DO, AND OUR SOCIAL MEDIA PAGES ABSOLUTELY REFLECT THAT COMMITMENT. AS WE CONTINUE TO GROW WITH IMPRESSIONS AND ENGAGEMENTS, I ALWAYS GET THE QUESTION OF WHY? WHAT ARE WE DOING THAT'S SO MUCH DIFFERENT THAT ARE BLOWING OUR NUMBERS UP, BUT REALLY, WE'RE MEETING THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY WHILE ALSO MEETING WITH THE ALGORITHM ONCE. AND A LOT OF THAT'S VIDEOS YOU'LL SEE WE'RE POSTING AT LEAST ONE TO SOMETIMES 3 OR 4 VIDEOS IN A WEEK. AND THAT'S HARD WORK. THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS JUST A SMALL VIDEO. OUR TEAM HAS BEEN PUTTING OUT HIGH QUALITY CONTENT LIKE WE'RE AN ACTUAL CREATIVE AGENCY, WHICH I WANT TO EMPHASIZE IS NOT AN EASY TASK IN THE SLIGHTEST. BUT AGAIN, YEAR TO DATE, JANUARY TO THE END OF AUGUST, WE'VE ALMOST SURPASSED LAST YEAR'S TOTAL NUMBERS OF VIDEO VIEWS. SO THIS HAS BEEN EVERYWHERE FROM VIDEO ANNOUNCEMENTS TO THE EXPLANATION OF AREA PLANS IN JUNETEENTH AND DISCOVER SITES. PLEASE DON'T POP YOUR BALLOONS. I'M JUMPY, BUT THIS IS NOT US DISCUSSING DISCOVER SITE. THANK YOU. PUT IT BACK. BUT WE'VE ALSO DONE A LOT OF REELS TOO, SO WE'VE DONE A LOT MORE VERTICAL CONTENT, WHICH HAS BEEN A PROJECT I'VE BEEN REALLY GRATEFUL TO WORK ON. SO AGAIN, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT LIKE, WHY IS THIS BLOWING UP AND WHY THIS IS IMPORTANT, I COME FROM A CORPORATE BACKGROUND WHERE I HAD A SIX FIGURE BUDGET TO WORK ON SOCIAL MEDIA ANALYTICS, AND I STILL WASN'T ABLE TO ACHIEVE WHAT NEW ALBANY IS DOING FOR MINIMAL DOLLARS. NEW ALBANY IS THE ANOMALY, NOT THE STANDARD. AGAIN, OUR COMMUNITY IS EAGER TO ENGAGE, BUT SO ARE PEOPLE AROUND THE STATE AND AROUND THE COUNTRY EAGERLY ANTICIPATING OF WHAT WE'RE DOING NEXT. YES, WE HAVE SOME REALLY NOT GREAT THINGS THAT HAPPEN SOMETIMES, LIKE THE SHOOTING, BUT WE ALSO HAVE CELEBRATORY THINGS THAT MAKE OUR ENGAGEMENTS AND INSIGHTS SPIKE. BUT ACROSS THE BOARD, WE'RE AVERAGING ABOUT A MILLION IMPRESSIONS A MONTH.

93% OF OUR OR 98% ARE ORGANIC. THAT'S INSANE. LIKE, NORMALLY IT'S 98% PAID IMPRESSIONS. AND WE'RE DOING THAT WITH MINIMAL SPEND AND PUTTING DOLLARS BEHIND THINGS THAT MATTER, THINGS WE WANT TO GET IN FRONT OF RESIDENTS TO EFFECTIVELY USE THE DOLLARS THAT WE'RE GIVEN.

AS YOU CAN SEE WITH BENCHMARKS, THE INDUSTRY AVERAGE FOR ENGAGEMENT RATES 2 TO 3%. WE'RE ACTIVELY AT LEAST AROUND 6%, WHICH BLOWS THAT OUT OF THE WATER. THOSE LITTLE BUMPS AND ENGAGEMENT RATE GO A LONG, LONG WAY. HERE ARE SOME OF THE VIDEOS THAT HAVE DONE WELL ACROSS THE BOARD, SO YOU CAN GET AN IDEA OF EXACTLY THE CONTENT THAT PEOPLE ARE EXCITED TO CONSUME. OFFICER BURR HAS BEEN THE THE ANIMAL GO GETTER WITH OUR ENCOUNTERS, SO THIS HAS BEEN SOMETHING WE'VE WORKED REALLY CLOSELY WITH PD ON BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN ASKING, HOW CAN WE RECRUIT PEOPLE? I'M LIKE, WELL, LET'S SHOW THEM THE EXCITING THINGS THAT THEY CAN GET INVOLVED IN. SO WE HAVE OFFICER BURR WITH THE DEER. YOU MIGHT HAVE SEEN THE CALF RESCUE.

WE HAVE TWO OF OUR FEMALE OFFICERS WHO ARE FISHING KITTENS OUT OF A CAR ENGINE THAT I'M WORKING ON RIGHT NOW, BUT RESIDENTS ARE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT IT AND COMMUNITIES WERE REALLY PUMPED ABOUT IT TOO. THIS HAS BEEN A HUGE SUCCESS FOR THE OHIO STATE HIGHWAY PATROL. THIS IS SOMETHING THEY DO FREQUENTLY, SO THIS IS KIND OF OUR TAKE ON IT. I REALLY LOOK FORWARD TO RECEIVING THESE VIDEOS. WE ALSO HAVE THE TAYLOR FARM PARK DRONE TOUR, WHICH. FUN FACT SAM RODE HIS BIKE WITH A GOPRO AND DID THE WHOLE THING. AND THAT'S WHERE THAT CONTENT CAME FROM. THEN WE HAVE THE ATHLETIC CAMPUS, SO BETWEEN THESE THREE, YOU HAVE A WAY THAT OUR COMMUNITY IS GETTING INVOLVED AND THEN YOU HAVE THE PARKS WHICH RESIDENTS ARE EXCITED ABOUT, BUT ALSO AN EXCITING PROJECT COMING FORWARD. YOU CAN

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AND IT'S A WORK IN PROGRESS PROCESS. SO IF YOU USE IT AND IT DOESN'T GIVE YOU AN ANSWER YOU LIKE, I'M WORKING ON IT. PLEASE LET ME KNOW. WHAT IS SEO? SEO IS SEARCH ENGINE OPTIMIZATION. SO IT'S ALL OF THE WORDS AND STUFF THAT I PUT ON THE BACK END. SO AS YOU'RE GOOGLING, IT'S GOOGLE'S RECOGNIZING OF LIKE, OH, YOU ARE LOOKING FOR. THE DISCOVER SITE. YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH IT? I PUT KEYWORDS IN ON THE BACK END SO THAT OUR WEBSITE POPS UP FOR YOU. SO IT'S IT'S CHANGING ALL OF THE TIME. AND NOW WITH AI COMING FORWARD, WHEN YOU GOOGLE SOMETHING, IT'S NOT A WEBSITE, IT'S A BLURB THAT AI IS PULLING FOR YOU. SO WE HAVE THAT ADDED BEAST NEXT OF OKAY, WELL HOW CAN I ADJUST THE WEBSITE AND THE CONTENT? HOW CAN OUR TEAM WORK TOGETHER ON THIS TO MAKE SURE THAT AI IS GETTING ACCURATE INFORMATION? BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW IT CAN BE A LITTLE WRONG SOMETIMES, SO WE WANT TO BE FEEDING IT THE RIGHT THE RIGHT INFO. IT'S REALLY COMPLICATED. I COULD GO ALL DAY ON THAT ONE. YEAH. HAVE YOU SEEN SEEING LESS CLICKS ON OUR WEBSITE AS A RESULT OF I KNOW WE'VE SEEN MORE. OKAY. SO IF WE GO BACK HERE, THE NUMBERS UP HERE, UP HERE AT THE TOP, THIS IS FROM A TOOL CALLED GOOGLE ANALYTICS. SO THIS IS WHAT WE'RE RECEIVING STRAIGHT FROM GOOGLE. ANYTIME YOU CLICK ON OUR WEBSITE IT CLOCKS IT. AND THEN I CAN SEE WHERE IT CAME FROM. I CAN SEE HOW LONG YOU EXISTED ON THAT WEB PAGE. LIKE I CAN SEE ALL OF THIS DATA. I'D BE HAPPY TO SHOW ANYBODY AT ANY POINT I CAN LIVE IN THE WEEDS OF THIS STUFF, BUT WE'VE SEEN A 21% INCREASE OF VIEWS OVER TIME. BUT THE MORE IMPORTANT NUMBER TO ME IS THAT OUR AVERAGE ENGAGEMENT PER USER IS UP SUBSTANTIALLY. SO IN MY BRAIN, THIS IS GIVING US A GREEN FLAG THAT THE CONTENT WE'RE PROVIDING PEOPLE IS THE CONTENT THAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR. SO IF WE'RE FEEDING AI THE RIGHT INFORMATION AND YOU'RE GETTING YOUR ANSWERS FROM GOOGLE AND THAT LITTLE AI BOX, IT'S GOING TO END UP LINKING BACK TO OUR WEBSITE. BUT NOT JUST THE PAGE.

THE EXACT SENTENCE THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR. SO IN MY OPINION, I FEEL LIKE AI IS WORKING TO OUR BENEFIT BECAUSE WE'VE DONE THE WORK TO MAKE SURE WE'RE GIVING IT THE RIGHT INFORMATION.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YEAH, I JUST READING THAT A LOT OF BECAUSE OF AI, A LOT OF WEBSITES AREN'T GETTING CLICKS BECAUSE CHATGPT IS JUST SCRAPING THE INFORMATION AND THEY'RE NOT PEOPLE AREN'T GOING TO THE WEBSITE ANYMORE. THERE'S SO MUCH STRATEGY BEHIND DEVELOPING A SIMPLE WEB PAGE AND A SIMPLE WEB POST THAT WE GO TO CONFERENCES AND WE TAKE WORKSHOPS, AND WE'RE ALWAYS EVOLVING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE MEETING THE NEED. AND THAT'S WHY NEW ALBANY IS THE ANOMALY AND NOT THE STANDARD. MOST PEOPLE ARE EXPERIENCING THAT. WE'RE JUST NOT AWESOME. AREAS OF OPPORTUNITY. SO THE ADA CONTINUES TO HAVE A LOT OF PRESSURE, RIGHTFULLY SO, ON MAKING SURE THAT OUR WEBSITE AND OUR CONTENT IS ACCESSIBLE TO PEOPLE. AND NOW, AS OF JULY 10TH, INSTAGRAM POSTS ARE EVEN SHOWING UP ON GOOGLE RESULTS.

SO WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE ACROSS THE BOARD THAT WE'RE MEETING THE NEEDS OF PEOPLE WHO MIGHT NEED TO ACCESS THE INTERNET A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY. SO WE'RE CONSTANTLY AUDITING.

WE'RE GOING TO BE REALLY DOING AN OVERHAUL OF ALL OF THAT NEXT YEAR. IT JUST TAKES A LOT OF MANUAL LABOR, SO IT'LL BE A PRETTY BIG UNDERTAKING. LIKE WE JUST TALKED ABOUT. WE'RE GOING TO BE WORKING ON SEARCH ENGINE AND AI OPTIMIZATION. SO MAKING SURE THAT AS WE'RE CHECKING THE

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WHEN WE POST SOMETHING OF PD, YOU BET THAT THEY'RE ALL SENDING IT TO EACH OTHER, AND THEN THEIR FRIENDS AND THEN THEIR COUSINS AND THEIR AUNTS AND THEIR UNCLES. LIKE IT'S JUST THE CONSTANT SPREAD OF INFORMATION. SO A LOT OF THESE HITS, YES, ARE PEOPLE IN NEW ALBANY, BUT THEY'RE ALSO FROM PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF THE STATE AS WELL. WHEN I PUT BOOST BEHIND THINGS, I MAKE SURE THAT, LIKE, WE CAN GET DOWN TO THE ZIP CODE SO I CAN SEND THINGS JUST TO NEW ALBANY, OR WE CAN LIKE BLAST IT ACROSS CENTRAL OHIO, AND THEN IT KIND OF TAKES OFF FROM THERE. BUT OH YEAH, THE BUS ROLLOVER VIDEO IS A GREAT EXAMPLE. WE POSTED THAT BACK IN LIKE 2024. IT CONSISTENTLY WAS GAINING VIEWS DURING THE COURSE OF THIS YEAR. I THINK IT GAINED LIKE 50,000 VIEWS ON YOUTUBE JUST BY EXISTING ON YOUTUBE. THE ALGORITHM WAS EATING IT UP.

PEOPLE LOVED TO SEE HOW WE ARE TRAINING FOR THOSE BUS ROLLOVERS. AND IT'S NOT EVEN JUST NEW ALBANY PEOPLE. THEY JUST WERE EXCITED TO SEE SOMETHING CRAZY LIKE THAT AND HOW WE'RE PREPPING FOR IT. IT'S JUST SO WILD. THE ALGORITHM WILL JUST PICK STUFF UP AND RUN WITH IT. GREAT. ISN'T THAT NUTS? IT'S NUTS. SOCIAL MEDIA KNOWS SO MUCH ABOUT YOU. I REALLY TRY NOT TO THINK ABOUT IT. HEY, CHIEF, DO WE HAVE TO GET OFFICER BURR LIKE A GAME WARDEN BADGE OR. RIGHT? I WAS JUST SAYING. WE NEED TO. ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICER. THERE WE GO.

IT'S. IT'S HONESTLY, I CHAT WITH THE OFFICERS, AND I KEEP TELLING THEM, WHEN YOU SEE BODY CAM STUFF, LIKE SEND IT TO ME, LIKE, LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU DO SOMETHING CRAZY. I'M LIKE, WELL, THIS IS OUR EVERY DAY. AND I'M LIKE, RESIDENTS DON'T KNOW THAT. WHAT'S NORMAL TO YOU IS SO COOL TO OTHER PEOPLE. SO A LOT OF FUN STUFF. BUT ANYWAY, ANYTHING ELSE? YOU GUYS ARE ALWAYS WELCOME TO EMAIL ME IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS. I'D BE. WE JUST UPGRADED OUR SUBSCRIPTION TO A SOCIAL MEDIA THING WHERE WE HAVE REALLY ENHANCED REPORTING TO MAKE SURE WE CAN GIVE YOU REALLY COOL NUMBERS. SO I'M ALWAYS HAPPY TO SIT DOWN WITH YOU AND SHOW YOU SOME OF THE COOL STUFF WE'RE ABLE TO PULL. I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY I LOVE TALKING ABOUT IT, SO LET ME

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THANK YOU. GREAT JOB. YEAH. LUNCH. SO HOW LONG DO YOU GUYS WANT TO TAKE JEN 2030 2020. DO YOU WANT US? I KNOW WE'RE ON A COMPRESSED SCHEDULE. DO YOU WANT US TO GET FOOD? AND THEN IF YOU BACK UP WHILE WE'RE EATING. YEAH, WE CAN DO THAT. THAT'S FINE. NO PROBLEM.

WORKING LUNCH FOR LIKE, 15 AND THEN WE'LL JUST. YEAH, JUST TAKE 15. I HAVE SOME THINGS TO PULL UP, SO THAT'LL GIVE ME TIME TO DO THAT AND THEN WE'LL GET GOING. PERFECT. COOL OKAY I DON'T WHERE IS LUNCH? LUNCH IS IN. POP MY BALLOON. YEAH. YOU DEFINITELY NEED TO POP ONE HERE.

FOR THOSE FOLLOWING ALONG, THE CAMERAS WILL STILL BE RUNNING, BUT WE'RE ALL RIGHT. WE ARE PUSHING SOUND. IT IS A 12:20 P.M. ALL RIGHT. HOPEFULLY EVERYONE GOT A CHANCE TO EAT. THE FOOD IS VERY GOOD. THANK YOU, CLARK MASON. THANK YOU, DEPUTY CLARK, CHRISTINA MADRIGUERA AND ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT ANNE LOWE FOR SETTING THAT UP. AND CHRISTINA ALSO BELIEVE PROVIDED SOME DESSERTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. IT

[7. DRAFT CAPITAL BUDGET REVIEW:]

WE'LL GO AHEAD AND RESUME OUR CONVERSATIONS AROUND THE CAPITAL PROJECTS. I THINK WE HAVE AN UPDATE FROM FINANCE. I'M JUST GOING TO REMIND YOU OF THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE. THE 5.2, THE 47 AND THE 18 MILLION. I DID HAND OUT THIS SHEET. THE FRONT PAGE IS ALL PROJECTS THAT WERE LISTED IN YOUR CAPITAL PROJECT CAPITAL PROGRAM IN 2025, AND THE DIFFERENT YEARS ASSOCIATED WITH IT. THAT FIRST COLUMN IS WHAT WAS LISTED. THE GREEN COLUMN IS WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING TO BUDGET FOR EACH OF THESE PROJECTS MOVING FORWARD. AND THEN IN THE PROJECT OR PROPOSED BUDGET YEAR, ANY NUMBER THAT IS RED AND BOLD, THOSE ARE THE PROJECTS THAT WE ARE PROPOSING FOR 2026. THE BACK PAGE HAS NEW PROJECTS THAT WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT IN THE TOP. AND THEN THE BOTTOM IS JUST A REMINDER. WE'RE STILL ALSO GOING TO BE PAYING OFF THE NOTES THAT WE JUST ISSUED ROLLED OVER. YOU CAN PROBABLY REFER TO THIS THROUGHOUT THE REST OF THE AFTERNOON. AND IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, LET ME KNOW. ALL RIGHT. THANKS, BETHANY. SO WE'RE GOING TO LIKE I SAID START OFF WHERE WE ENDED. AND THIS IS JUST A REMINDER THAT WE DO HAVE AVAILABLE FUNDING PROJECTED IN 2026. THE 5.25 MILLION IN THE ANNUAL PROGRAMS. WE'LL BRIEFLY TALK ABOUT THOSE BUT NOT SPEND SO MUCH TIME ON ON THAT TODAY, THE $47 MILLION IN COMMITTED PROJECTS. AGAIN, THINK OF THAT LIKE THE CONTRIBUTION TO THE WALNUT 605 ROUNDABOUT. WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH THE COUNTY ENGINEER THAT WE'RE GOING TO CONTRIBUTE THAT THAT'S COMMITTED DOLLARS AGAIN TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS IN THAT BUCKET. JUST BECAUSE WE'VE DONE SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF WORK AND WANT TO BRING THAT PROJECT TO THE COMMUNITY. GETTING TO SPEND THIS AFTERNOON MAINLY TALKING ABOUT THIS 18 MILLION, AS BETHANY TALKED ABOUT EARLIER IN THE DAY. SO A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE'VE DONE BEFORE IN THE IN THE SENSE THAT WE'RE BRINGING TO YOU A SLATE OF PROJECTS THAT WE BELIEVE CAN FULLY BE FUNDED OR WE KNOW CAN FULLY BE FUNDED, AND THEN COUNCIL WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT THOSE THAT FUNDING AND THOSE INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS TO SEE IF THOSE ARE PROJECTS YOU WANT TO INCLUDE MOVING FORWARD IN THE 2026 CAPITAL BUDGET THERE, I WILL SAY THERE ARE TWO PROJECTS. WE'VE MADE SOME ASSUMPTIONS ON THAT. AGAIN, WE'LL ASK FOR COUNCIL'S FEEDBACK ON WHAT YOU WANT TO INCLUDE. THAT WOULD BE TAYLOR FARM PARK PHASE THREE AND THEN THE PICKLEBALL FACILITY COMPLEX. WE'VE MADE SOME ASSUMPTIONS AND PUT PLUGGED IN WHAT COULD FIT WITHIN THAT 18 MILLION AVAILABLE FUNDING. BUT COUNCIL ULTIMATELY HAS THE DISCRETION WHAT OPTIONS YOU WANT TO TAKE WITH WITH BOTH TAYLOR FARM PHASE THREE AND PICKLEBALL COMPLEX. SO THE REST OF THE AFTERNOON IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE THIS GOING IN THE WRONG DIRECTION. OKAY. SO WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THREE DIFFERENT AREAS OF PROJECTS. AND THEY WILL CORRESPOND TO THESE POSTERS THAT ARE KIND OF ON THE WALL OKAY. THANKS. SO THE ANNUAL PROGRAMS THEN WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT PREVIOUSLY PREVIOUSLY PLANNED PROJECTS. THAT MEANS THOSE ARE PROJECTS THAT ARE EITHER ON YOUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN. SO WE DO A FIVE YEAR CIP IN A FUTURE YEAR

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WE DID THIS LAST YEAR TO KIND OF CAPTURE YOUR PRIORITIES AND WHAT YOU WANT TO DO ON EACH PROJECT. MENTIMETER IS THE ONE THAT YOU USE YOUR CELL PHONE TO VOTE, AND WE SEE REAL TIME VOTING. SO JUST BE READY FOR THAT. BUT THAT'LL BE AT THE END OF THE DAY. SO TO START US OFF ON OUR FIRST KIND OF CATEGORY WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT IS THE ANNUAL STREET ANNUAL PROGRAM. SO THAT INCLUDES THE ANNUAL STREET STREET PAVING AND MAINTENANCE PROGRAM AT A LEVEL OF 3.75 MILLION. TRAFFIC CALMING IMPLEMENTATION, DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION AT 500,000.

THAT IS KIND OF THE RESULTS WE DID. THE DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT DID THAT STUDY A YEAR AGO. I THINK THAT KIND OF GAVE US A TOOLKIT OF TRAFFIC CALMING DEVICES WE CAN USE, LIKE ISLANDS, THOSE KIND OF THINGS. AND THE SERVICE DEPARTMENT IS WORKING ON A PROJECT WITHIN THE LINKS. NOW TO SLOW TRAFFIC. WE HAVE THIS ANNUAL PROGRAM TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT IN DIFFERENT AREAS OF THE CITY, WHERE WE NOTICE TRAFFIC CALMING AS NEEDED. WE HAVE THE SIDEWALK REPLACEMENT PROGRAM AND WE HAVE THAT WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER. I THINK WE HAVE SOME TAKEAWAYS FROM YOUR DISCUSSION EARLIER TO MOVE INTO NEXT YEAR. ANOTHER ANNUAL PROGRAM WE HAVE ARE THE TRAIL GAPS, PTA PRIORITIES. WE DON'T ALWAYS USE THIS POT OF MONEY, BUT WE LIKE TO BUDGET FOR IT IN CASE THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY THAT COMES UP THAT WE CAN FILL IN A GAP. WE HAVE TRAIL IMPROVEMENTS, MAINTENANCE, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE, YOU KNOW, OUR OUR TRAILS ARE IN GOOD SHAPE AND WE REPAVE WHEN NEEDED. AND THEN A NEWER ANNUAL PROGRAM THAT WAS CREATED WAS THIS FACILITY PARKING DRIVE MAINTENANCE, MAINLY THE HEIGHT CENTER WAS A PROJECT THAT CAME OUT OF THIS PROGRAM JUST THIS PAST YEAR, JUST TO MAKE SURE ALL OF THE CITY PARKING LOTS THAT WE OWN ARE KEPT UP TO GOOD MAINTENANCE. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THESE ANNUAL PROGRAMS? I THINK YOU'RE PRETTY FAMILIAR WITH ALL OF THEM. SO ALL THESE FUNDING LEVELS, I BELIEVE, ARE THE SAME LEVELS THAT HAVE BEEN IN THE STREET. STREET HAS GONE UP. HOW MUCH? 250, 250,000. THE REST ARE AT LEVELS WE PREVIOUSLY BUDGETED FOR AND PLANNED FOR FOR FUTURE YEARS. AND YOUR FIVE YEAR CIP. ADRIAN, IF I COULD JUST JUMP IN ON THE STREETS FOR YEARS, YOU MIGHT RECALL THAT WE WERE BUDGETING ABOUT $1 MILLION A YEAR. GIVEN THE EXTENSIVE GROWTH IN THE ROAD NETWORK OVER THE PARTICULARLY THE LAST 4 OR 5 YEARS, WE DETERMINED THAT WE SHOULD INCREASE THAT. PLUS, WE'VE HAD THE INFLATIONARY IMPACT ON THE COST OF CONSTRUCTION. SO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO PROPOSE, YOU'LL SEE THIS A LITTLE BIT LATER ON IS A AN INCREMENTAL INCREASE YEAR OVER YEAR GOING FORWARD TO MAKE SURE THAT WE COVER ANY TYPE OF INCREASE IN COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH INFLATION. SO WITH THE STREET PROGRAM, IN THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC AND THE TYPE OF TRAFFIC IN THE BUSINESS PARK WITH CONSTRUCTION, ARE WE SEEING A MORE RAPID DEGRADATION OF ROADS DUE TO ALL THE THE DUMP TRUCKS RUNNING AROUND AND EVEN ON OUR NEW ROADS GETTING BEAT UP AND THAT CLOCK IS ACCELERATED? I'LL DEFER TO RYAN SPECIFICALLY, BUT I BELIEVE, YES, ESPECIALLY THE ROADS THAT WERE FORMER TOWNSHIP ROADS THAT WERE NOT BUILT TO THE TO THE LEVEL THAT WAS NECESSARY TO SUSTAIN HEAVY, HEAVY VEHICLE TRAFFIC. I AND I AGREE COMPLETELY WITH JOE'S STATEMENT THERE. THE UNIMPROVED ROADWAYS ARE TAKING A BEATING RIGHT NOW, AND SO WE'LL BE FOCUSED ON THOSE EVEN WITHIN OUR STREET PROGRAM NEXT YEAR. AND THEN THE NEWLY IMPROVED ROADWAYS ARE HOLDING UP PRETTY WELL. OKAY.

SO THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW. SO. THE BUDGET. SO WHEN WE GET TO THE EXERCISE LATER I GUESS THE EXERCISE WILL ASK IF YOU WANT TO FUND THESE ANNUAL PROGRAMS AGAIN. AND AT THESE LEVELS, THESE THE FINANCIAL PROJECTIONS SUPPORT FUNDING THEM AT THESE LEVELS. AND IT KIND OF CONTINUES YOUR PRIORITY OF MAKING SURE EVERY ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE THE CITY OWNS IS WELL MAINTAINED. ONE QUESTION ON THE CALMING IMPLEMENTATION DESIGN THAT 500,000 IS THAT LOOKING AT DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION IN ONE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT YOU'D MENTIONED EARLIER, I THINK SO FOR FOR THIS YEAR, WE'RE PROPOSING TO START IN THE LINKS.

IT IS THE LINKS NEIGHBORHOOD. RIGHT. WE'VE WE'VE CHOSEN THAT ONE FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS.

THERE WAS THE I, WE CALLED IT TAP, BUT IT WAS A COMMUNITY OUTREACH PROGRAM WHERE WE GOT A

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THERE'S SOME OPPORTUNITIES TO DO RADAR FEEDBACK SIGNS IN SOME AREAS. AND SO THERE'S A MENU OF OPTIONS THAT WE HAVE. BUT WE BELIEVE THE 500,000 SPREAD OUT OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS IS SUFFICIENT. SO IF WE'RE DOING ISLANDS LIKE UP IN THE LAKES, THEN WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO USE MOST, IF NOT ALL OF THE 500. IF WE'RE DOING TRAFFIC FEEDBACK, SIGNAGE AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS THAT WE COULD DO MULTIPLE NEIGHBORHOODS. BUT I WOULD EXPECT THAT IN SOME OF THE AREAS WHERE WE HAVE THE LARGER STREETS, THE WIDER STREETS, WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING MORE TO THE TRAFFIC CALMING ISLANDS. RIGHT? OKAY. YEAH. I JUST THINK IT'S AN IMPORTANT THING. I WANT TO KNOW THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO DO ENOUGH NEIGHBORHOODS TO HAVE AN IMPACT AND NOT TAKE EIGHT YEARS TO GET THERE. RIGHT. OKAY. THANK YOU. YEAH. SO THAT IS OUR ANNUAL PROGRAMS. WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO TALK ABOUT OUR PREVIOUS PREVIOUSLY PLANNED PROJECTS. SO AGAIN THESE ARE PROJECTS THAT. ARE ON OUR FIVE YEAR CIP. SO WE PLAN OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS FIVE YEARS OUT. SO THEY WOULD BE THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN LISTED AS A 2026 PROJECT. OR IT MIGHT BE A DESIGN PROJECT THAT THEN WOULD ALLOW US TO DESIGN SOMETHING THAT IS SLATED FOR CONSTRUCTION IN A FUTURE YEAR. SO WE HAVE THREE THE ONES IN BOLD. WE HAVE ACTUAL PRESENTATIONS ON. THE OTHER ONES WILL JUST KIND OF TALK THROUGH. SO WE'LL START OFF WITH THE WALNUT 605 ROUNDABOUT CONTRIBUTION. SO THIS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT MENTIONED IT QUICKLY EARLIER. THIS IS THE 1.5 MILLION THAT WE HAVE COMMITTED TO CONTRIBUTING TO THE FRANKLIN COUNTY ENGINEER. WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH THEM TOWARDS ROUNDABOUT AT WALNUT AND 605. SO THAT'S A CONTRIBUTION. WE'RE COMMITTED TO DOING THAT BY PREVIOUS AGREEMENTS WITH THE FRANKLIN COUNTY ENGINEER. SO WE WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THAT WOULD BE FUNDED. SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOUR FLOW. DO WE HAVE A I KNOW THIS IS NOT THE TOPIC OF THIS, BUT DO WE HAVE AN UPDATE ON LIKE WHEN THAT IS ALL GOING TO START HAPPENING. YES. SO IT'S SLATED FOR NEXT YEAR. GREAT. AND THEY HAVE A 75 DAY PROVISION IN THEIR CONTRACT FOR THAT. THAT'S THE THE MAXIMUM CLOSURE DATE. AND THAT THAT SHOULD START IN MARCH OF NEXT YEAR AND THEN WRAP UP AT THAT SUMMER. FANTASTIC. THANK YOU. YEAH. SO WE WOULD RECOMMEND THAT BE FUNDED IN 2026. ADAPTIVE TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT THAT'S BEEN ON THE CIP FOR A COUPLE YEARS NOW. WE SPLIT THAT INTO A PROJECT FOR THE BUSINESS PARK AND FOR THE THE NON-BUSINESS PARK PART OF THE COMMUNITY. WE ACTUALLY JUST RECOMMEND THAT THIS DROPS OFF OF THE CIP. IT'S THERE IS SOME I THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO EVALUATE.

THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENT TECHNOLOGIES AND IT SEEMS LIKE IT, YOU KNOW, MORE AND MORE BECOME AVAILABLE EVERY YEAR. WE WE DON'T WANT TO GO WITH THIS SPECIFIC TECHNOLOGY WITHOUT MAYBE VETTING OTHER POSSIBILITIES. AND LOOKING AT THIS MORE COMPREHENSIVELY. SO IT HAS BEEN ON THE CIP, WE HAVEN'T ADVANCED THE PROJECT AND WE'VE HAD SOME STAFFING CHANGES. SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, A CHAMPION OF THIS IS NO LONGER WITH THE CITY. AND I THINK IT'S JUST A TIME FOR US TO STEP BACK AND UNDERSTAND WHAT THE WHAT OUR PAIN POINTS ARE AND WHAT TECHNOLOGY IS THERE AND IF THIS IS THE WAY TO SOLVE IT OR NOT. SO AS A STAFF, WE RECOMMEND THIS FALL OFF THE CIP KITZMILLER WETLAND PARK DESIGN. THAT WAS A SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN PLANNED. THIS COMES FROM, YOU KNOW, MANY YEARS BACK WE GOT A GRANT THAT BOUGHT SOME PARKLAND OUT THERE. WE ALSO GOT A DONATION AS PART OF THE CONSTRUCTION, YOU KNOW, DECADES

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BUT I THINK THEY HAVE TWO OF THEIR FAMILY DOGS IN THIS PORTRAIT AS WELL. SO IT'S KIND OF NEAT. SO WE'VE LOOKED AT THE HOUSE AND WHAT WE COULD DO WITH AND I'M GOING TO CALL IT AN EVENT BARN. BUT WHERE WE'VE LANDED AS A DESIGN TEAM IS PARKING IS GOING TO CONSTRAIN ANYTHING WE DO OUT THERE. AND SO EVENT BARN ISN'T ACTUALLY THE RIGHT TERM, BUT LIKE PAVILION, I DON'T THINK IS THE RIGHT THING EITHER. WHAT WE'VE COME TO BELIEVE, IT'S MORE LIKE SOME SORT OF THREE SEASON STRUCTURE THAT COULD BE OUT THERE, THAT COULD PROBABLY BE RENTED FOR SMALL THINGS, BUT I DON'T WE DON'T AS A STAFF THINK IT'S FEASIBLE THAT WE'RE GOING TO PUT LIKE 150, YOU KNOW, PERSON WEDDING OUT THERE BECAUSE YOU JUST YOU CAN'T PARK IT AND YOU CAN'T GET ANY MORE PARKING. AND THERE'S NOT A LOT OF GOOD OPPORTUNITIES FOR NEARBY PARKING. WE'VE LOOKED AT SEVERAL EVENT FARMS, EVENT BARNS IN THE REGION. YOU KNOW, UPPER ARLINGTON HAS ONE, WESTERVILLE HAS ONE. UPPER ARLINGTON IS PRETTY UNDER PARKED AS WELL. BUT IS IT? THE PARK IS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO I THINK SOME ON STREET PARKING HELPS THAT FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO DO EVENTS THERE. AND WE JUST DON'T HAVE THAT ABILITY HERE TO ADD PARKING. SO WHEN WE SAY THE BARN AND WE'LL SHOW YOU IMAGES, IT'S MORE OF LIKE A BIGGER WEXNER PAVILION I WOULD SAY WOULD BE THE BEST LIKE THING TO PUT IN YOUR MIND'S EYE. WE'LL LOOK AT THE PROPOSED PROGRAM FOR BOTH OF THESE, AND THEN WE HAVE A COST ESTIMATE TO REVIEW. JUST A QUESTION. YOU SAID YOU CAN'T ADD ANY MORE PARKING OUT THERE. IT'S REALLY HARD JUST WITH ALL THE. ENCUMBRANCES ON THE PROPERTY. SO WHETHER IT'S THE WE CAN'T GO INTO ANY OF THE WETLAND AREAS BECAUSE THERE'S ENVIRONMENTAL RESTRICTIONS, THERE'S FLOODPLAIN ISSUES. SO WE'D HAVE A REALLY HARD TIME ADDING MORE PARKING, MORE PARKING, ANY MORE PARKING THAN WHAT WE HAVE OUT THERE NOW.

OKAY. SO FROM A STUDY PLAN AREA, WE'VE LOOKED AT THE HOMESTEAD ITSELF. SO NUMBER ONE IS THE EXISTING HOUSE AND TWO IS THE COMMUNITY GARDEN THAT EXISTS OUT THERE. NOW THREE AND FOUR

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SO MANY HE'S JUST IMPLEMENTING YOU JUST JUST FOLLOWING THE RULES. YOU DID EXACTLY WHAT WE WANT TO DO. TO DO. ALL RIGHT. I'M GLAD I SAW THAT COMING. THE CHIEF REACHED FOR HIS HOLSTER.

OH, YEAH. SO SPATIALLY, THIS IS HOW THIS COULD LAY OUT OR, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THE THE THE HOMESTEAD, TALKING ABOUT THE FARMHOUSE, TALKING ABOUT HOW YOU WOULD ACCESS THAT AND THEN WHERE WE COULD PUT THIS BARN PAVILION OUT BACK. AGAIN. WE HAVE A LOT OF GREAT THINGS OUT THERE NOW, VERY WELL USED, VERY POPULAR. I DROVE BY IT ON MY WAY IN TODAY. IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S ALL GOLDEN AND BEAUTIFUL AND THE LEAVES ARE CHANGING AND THERE'S ALWAYS PEOPLE PARKED THERE. AND EVERY TIME YOU DRIVE BY, YOU SEE PEOPLE WALKING OR RIDING THEIR BIKES. SO IT'S FANTASTIC. AGAIN, WE WOULD LIKE LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT IT TOO. WE'D BUILD OFF THE EXISTING SITE MATERIALS AND JUST KIND OF CONTINUE THAT SAME LEVEL OF QUALITY AND CREATE SOME SOME ADDITIONAL PLACES FOR THE COMMUNITY TO GO AND REASONS FOR THEM TO BE THERE. EXISTING CONDITIONS. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE EXISTING HOMESTEAD, THIS IS THE FRONT ELEVATION, THE BACK, AND THEN JUST UP CLOSE. YOU KNOW, THIS IS IN PRETTY BAD SHAPE. THESE WERE ADDITIONS OVER TIME. THIS YOU DON'T SEE THE WEST ELEVATION, BUT THE ELEVATION NEAR THE STREAM IS PROBABLY IN THE WORST SHAPE. IT HAS SOME FOUNDATIONAL REPAIRS THAT WOULD BE NEEDED. NOTHING THAT LIKE THE BUILDING IS FALLING DOWN BECAUSE WE DID A STRUCTURAL ANALYSIS WHEN WE BEFORE WE PURCHASED THE PROPERTY. BUT IT NEEDS A LOT OF WORK, A LOT OF BRICK WORK, MAINLY ON THAT ELEVATION. YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE DETAILS FROM THAT, THAT HISTORIC PICTURE. I JUST HAVE BEEN TAKEN OFF OVER THE YEARS SO WE COULD BRING THIS PORCH BACK TO THAT INITIAL LEVEL OF ARCHITECTURAL DETAIL. THE SHUTTERS HAVE BEEN REMOVED AND THERE'S SOME WORK LIKE THAT COULD BE DONE. WE'VE ALSO LOOKED AT INCORPORATING. THIS IS THE BILHEIMER BARN UP NEAR THE SERVICE COMPLEX THAT CAUGHT ON FIRE EARLIER THIS YEAR. AND WE'VE LOOKED AT COULD WE INCORPORATE JUST NOT NOT NECESSARILY MOVING THE BARN, BUT COULD WE SALVAGE SOME OF THESE BEAMS AND INCORPORATE THAT INTO A NEW BARN AT TAYLOR FARM? SO THESE ARE JUST PICTURES OF THE INSIDE OF THE BARN. THIS COULD BE LOCATED TOWARDS THE BACK OF THE COMMUNITY GARDENS. AND WE WOULD THERE'S KIND OF THIS HAS BEEN GRADED. WE INCLUDED THIS WORK IN OUR FLOODPLAIN PERMIT PERMIT WHEN WE HAD TO GO THROUGH ALL THAT TO, TO GET THE PARKING AND CONSTRUCT PHASE TWO. IT'S IT'S SO IT'S ALREADY APPROVED FROM A FLOODPLAIN STANDPOINT. WE'VE DONE THE GRADING TO RAISE IT UP OUT OF THE FLOODPLAIN. SO IT'S KIND OF READY MADE FOR THIS WORK TO OCCUR. WE WOULD INCLUDE WALKWAYS AROUND IT AND A PATIO KIND OF AREA, OUTDOOR AREA, HARDSCAPE IN THE BACK TO CREATE SOME SORT OF INDOOR OUTDOOR VARIETY. AND THEN THAT WOULD LEAD DOWN TO WHAT COULD BE JUST AN OPEN ACTIVITY LAWN. WE COULD DO THINGS LIKE PUT SOME HAMMOCKS OUT HERE, LIKE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SEATING AND UNEXPECTED SEATING OPPORTUNITIES. SO THAT'S HOW JUST SPATIALLY, FROM A SITE PLAN STANDPOINT, IT COULD ALL LAY OUT THE THE STRUCTURE ITSELF. COULD LOOK LIKE THIS. AND SO BASICALLY IF YOU COULD READ THIS SLIDE THAT IS THE ORIGINAL. SO THE BEAM WILL HYMER BARN DEPTH. THAT'S THE

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AND THIS IS HOW IT COULD BE CONSTRUCTED. IT COULD INCLUDE SOME SORT OF FIREPLACE FEATURE OR HEARTH IF WE DID, YOU KNOW, TRY TO GET SOME, YOU KNOW, THOSE SHOULDER SEASONS IN THE FALL OR THE SPRING TO CREATE SOME, SOME HEAT AND WARMTH. WE'D HAVE BARN DOORS SO YOU COULD CLOSE IT OFF AND, AND, AND, YOU KNOW, CONDITION IT A LITTLE BIT MORE THAT WAY. AGAIN, WE'RE LEARNING AS WE GO. WE NEED LOTS MORE STORAGE THAN WE THINK WE NEED. AND SO THIS HAS SOME PARK STORAGE IN HERE. IT ALSO HAS SOME PAVILION STORAGE. BECAUSE IF WE DO THIS WE'LL HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, BUY SOME CHAIRS AND TABLES AND THAT KIND OF STUFF TO MOVE IN AND OUT. SO THEY WOULD BE STORED IN THIS BUILDING. WE'VE ALSO PLANNED AN OFFICE INTO THE FLOOR PLAN HERE.

THAT MAINLY IS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, OUR SERVICE DEPARTMENT HAS SOMEONE OUT THERE ALMOST, YOU KNOW, ALL, ALL DAY, DEFINITELY IN THE MORNING AND THE AFTERNOON. THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL THE TRASH SERVICE, LOOKING AT THE RESTROOMS, MAKING SURE THEY'RE CLEAN. THEN THEY GO TO ROSE RUN AND PICK UP THE TRASH THERE, AS I UNDERSTAND IT. BUT THERE'S NO HOME BASE FOR HIM OUT THERE OR FOR ANY CITY STAFF. AND SO WE HAVE PUT IN AN OFFICE IN THE FLOOR PLAN OUT THERE. DIMENSIONS ARE. BASICALLY 60 BY 37, IF THAT GIVES YOU KIND OF A SENSE OF OF THE SCALE OF IT. AND AGAIN, IT WOULD BE POSITIONED BEHIND THE COMMUNITY GARDEN, JUST SOME CHARACTER IMAGES ON WHAT A HAMMOCK GROW COULD LOOK LIKE, JUST THE OUTDOOR KIND OF PATIO BEHIND IT WOULD BE HARDSCAPE. WE'D LIKE TO HAVE A LOT OF FLEXIBLE GATHERING SPACES FOR PEOPLE TO GO GO TO AND ENJOY MORE FURNISHINGS. THINKING THROUGH FURNISHINGS AND MAKING SURE WE'RE PLANNING ACCORDINGLY. REUSING SOME MATERIALS LIKE THIS IS THE HISTORIC WROUGHT IRON FENCE THAT WAS REUSED IN THE COMMUNITY GARDEN. WE'D LIKE TO USE SOME OF THOSE SAME MATERIALS AS WELL. AND THEN FINALLY, THIS WAS KIND OF AN ADD ON, BUT THE OVERLOOKS HAVE BEEN VERY POPULAR. THE AMOUNT OF WILDLIFE OUT THERE IS TREMENDOUS. AND A LOT OF PEOPLE TAKE A LOT OF PHOTOGRAPHERS GO OUT THERE. SO WE HAVE PRICED IN AN ADDITIONAL OVERLOOK. SO THIS WOULD BE KIND OF THE BACK OF THE BARN PAVILION RIGHT HERE.

AND IT ALSO HAS THE EFFECT OF OFF BEING A VISUAL TERMINUS. SO YOU COULD LOOK AT THOSE BARN DOORS ARE OPEN. YOU COULD LOOK THROUGH THE BARN PAVILION AND HAVE THIS OVERLOOK AS KIND OF YOUR VISUAL TERMINUS. IT'S A NICE ADDITION. AGAIN, WASN'T IN THE ORIGINAL MASTER PLAN, BUT AS WE ARE GOING THROUGH DESIGN, WE THOUGHT THIS MIGHT BE A NICE THING TO INCLUDE. THIS IS THE DEEPEST WETLAND, SO IT'S THAT WETLAND CELL TWO. IT HAS WATER YEAR ROUND. AND IT I THINK MOST OF THE WILDLIFE IS IN THAT WETLAND BECAUSE IT DOES HAVE WATER YEAR ROUND. FROM A FARMHOUSE STANDPOINT. WE'VE LOOKED AT TURNING THIS INTO AN OFFICE, JUST REALLY A MORE FOR A FEASIBILITY FROM A FEASIBILITY STANDPOINT. IF WE WANTED TO DO THAT FOR ANY REASON, YOU WOULD NEED TO INCLUDE A WALKWAY BECAUSE AGAIN, YOU'RE NOT GOING. ONE LIMITATION OF THIS IS YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET PARKING RIGHT UP NEAR THE BUILDING. YOU WOULD HAVE TO USE THE EXISTING PARKING LOT. SO THIS WOULD BE AN A PATH TO TO CREATE THAT ACCESS, YOU WOULD HAVE TO BRING THE BUILDING UP TO ADA STANDARDS. AND SO THESE THIS PLANNING AND THIS FEASIBILITY STUDY ASSUMES THAT THAT WHOLE BACK ADDITION WOULD COME OFF AND WE WOULD HAVE A NEW ACCESSIBLE RAMP. THE ELY HOUSE HAS AN ACCESSIBLE RAMP AT THE BACK OF IT THAT I THINK WORKS REALLY WELL WITH THE HISTORIC CHARACTER. AND THEN THERE'D BE SOME NEW KITCHEN AND NEW SPACE BUILT ONTO THE BACK. HERE WE'VE INCLUDED SOME LANDSCAPE FOUNDATION PLANTINGS AROUND THIS SIDE. IT HAS A NEW FRONT ENTRY, AND WE WOULD WANT TO BRING THE THE PORCH BACK TO KIND OF THE HISTORIC STANDARD. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THIS WOULD BE AN AREA IN THE BACK THAT WE COULD HAVE SOME SHADED SEATING. THIS IS WHAT THE EXISTING HOUSE FLOOR PLAN LOOKS LIKE. I THINK ALL OF YOU HAVE PROBABLY BEEN IN IT BY NOW. I HOPE SO, IF NOT, WE CAN GET YOU OUT THERE. BASEMENT, FIRST FLOOR, SECOND FLOOR, AND THEN THE THIRD FLOOR IS LIKE A THIRD FLOOR WALK UP ATTIC SPACE. THE ARCHITECTS LOOKED AT WHAT THIS COULD YIELD IF YOU WANTED TO TURN THIS INTO AN OFFICE AND WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE. SO WE HAD A COUPLE I THINK WE HAD THREE DIFFERENT CONCEPTS. AFTER TALKING WITH JOE, WE REALLY WANTED TO TO

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IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT I THINK THEY'RE INTERESTED IN, JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE FOCUSING A LOT ON THE NEW FOOD PANTRY. THEY HAVE A NEW EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, SO I DON'T THE LAST CONVERSATION WE HAD WITH THEM, THEY WOULDN'T HAVE INTEREST IN MOVING OUT HERE RIGHT NOW. AND THEN I THINK WE COULD JUST KEEP IN TOUCH WITH THEM. IF THAT BECOMES A POSSIBILITY IN THE FUTURE. SO RIGHT NOW, WE DON'T HAVE A KIND OF A USER FOR THIS OFFICE SPACE. BUT THIS IS WE'VE GONE THROUGH THE EFFORTS TO KIND OF UNDERSTAND WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO BRING THIS IN INTO AN OFFICE, IF THAT'S AN OPTION FOR THE CITY OR ANOTHER PARTNERSHIP THAT WE WOULD WANT TO HAVE. DO WE HAVE A BACK NAPKIN COST? YEAH, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GETTING TO. YEAH. WE CAN DO BETTER JUST MAINTAINING IT, PRESERVING IT AS IT IS TODAY, LIKE ANNUALLY. WHAT THAT COSTS.

YEAH. WE HAVE DO YOU WANT TO GENTLY. OH NO. I THOUGHT YOU WERE MIKE WHEN HE ASKED THE QUESTION. OH, OKAY. IT WAS FOR THE BACK OF THE NAPKIN QUESTION. SO WHAT. YES, WE DO AND WE'LL WE'LL GET TO THAT AGAIN. THIS IS JUST SOME PICTURES. COST ESTIMATES. SO WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE TO RENOVATE THE BARN AND THE HOUSE, OR TO BUILD A BARN AND RENOVATE THE HOUSE. SO FROM A HOUSE STANDPOINT, PROBABLY A COUPLE HUNDRED THOUSAND IN SITE COSTS AND 1.6 IN BUILDING COSTS, WE DID ASK THE CONTRACTOR THAT ESTIMATED TO GIVE US A NUMBER FOR JUST IF YOU WANT TO DO AN INTERIOR OR AN EXTERIOR RENOVATION SHORT THE FOUNDATION, DO THE ROOF, THE TUCKPOINTING AND JUST BRING BACK THE EXTERIOR. THEY THINK THAT'S ABOUT 500,000 FOR THE BUILDING ITSELF. AND THEN IF WE WANTED TO DO THE SITE IMPROVEMENTS, THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER $217,000. SO THE 1.8 GIVES YOU INSIDE, OUTSIDE AND SITE. IF ONE OPTION TO JUST DO THE EXTERIOR WOULD PROBABLY BE, I WOULD SAY 750,000. IF YOU DO THE SITE AND THE EXTERIOR ONLY.

SO. THAT'S JUST FOR THE HOUSE. THIS IS THE HOUSE. THAT'S THE BARN'S 1.9. SO 270 FOR THE SITE.

THAT'S JUST THAT'S THAT WALKWAY FROM THE PARKING LOT. ANY PLANTINGS THAT WE WOULD DO IN THAT AREA. OKAY. AND I, I HAVE A DETAILED MULTI-PAGE ESTIMATE THAT WE CAN DEFINITELY SHARE IF YOU WANT TO LOOK INTO THOSE DETAILED COSTS, DO THE LACE CURTAINS REMAIN DOWN? I DON'T KNOW IF THE GHOSTS HAVEN'T MOVED THEM YET. EVERY TIME I GO IN THERE, THEY'RE IN A DIFFERENT THEY'RE IN A NEW WINDOW. EVERY TIME ADRIAN AND I GO IN, THEY MOVE. YEAH, IT'S A LITTLE CREEPY. I THINK THAT WITHOUT HAVING SOMEBODY TO PUT IN THE OFFICE SPACE AND TRY TO CONFIGURE IT INTERNALLY, MY OPINION WOULD BE TO KIND OF DO THE OUTSIDE SITE COSTS AND MAINTAIN THE INTEGRITY OF THE EXTERIOR OF THE BUILDING, MAKE IT LOOK PRESENTABLE. WE CAN ALWAYS DO THE INSIDE IN THE FUTURE. IF WE DO HAVE PEOPLE TO PUT IN THE OFFICE SPACE, RATHER THAN TO BUILD IT AND NOT HAVE ANYBODY TO PUT IN THERE. I DON'T THINK THAT'S WISE RIGHT NOW. JUST JUST FOR THAT BUILDING PER SE. JOE, CAN YOU REMIND US? I MEAN, I KNOW THE CITY MADE A COMMITMENT TO THE TAYLOR FAMILY TO NAME THE PARK AFTER THE FAMILY TO SORT OF MAINTAIN THAT SORT OF RURAL AGRICULTURAL FEEL TO IT. WAS THERE ANY COMMITMENT ON US PRESERVING THE HOME, OR ARE WE JUST TRYING TO SEE IF THAT WAS POSSIBLE? I THINK WE LEFT IT OPEN. WE SAID THAT WE WOULD TRY TO PRESERVE THE HOME IF WE COULD FIND A USE FOR IT, BUT IT WAS NOT A DEFINITE COMMITMENT. OKAY. IS THE BUDGET COST FOR 2026 INCLUDE BOTH THE 1.9 AND

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BUT AGAIN, IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST A LITTLE TRICKIER. I THINK PART OF THE CONVERSATION ALSO NEEDS TO INCLUDE GETTING A TURNING LANE IN AND OUT OF THERE, A TURNING LANE ON DUBLIN-GRANVILLE AND GRANDMA TO MAKE IT A LITTLE SAFER TO ENTER AND EXIT. THAT'S A IT'S A LITTLE DANGEROUS GETTING IN AND OUT OF THERE DURING. OKAY. PRETTY MUCH ANYTIME. YEAH. WHAT ARE THE THINGS WE SHOULD TALK ABOUT TOO? I KNOW I JUST SAID I WANTED TO HAVE COMMUNITY SPACE, BUT IF WE HAVE COMMUNITY SPACE, I WAS THINKING LIKE, WELL, IF THEY MEET IN THE EVENING, IT'LL BE FINE BECAUSE THEY WON'T BE USING THE PARKING LOT. BUT THEN HOW DO WE DEAL WITH CLOSING THE PARK AT DUSK AND DAWN AND ALLOW PEOPLE TO USE THE THE HOUSE FACILITY? THAT MIGHT GET A LITTLE DIFFICULT. YEAH. I MEAN, I THINK WE ARE AT THE POINT WITH THE FACILITIES WE'VE ADDED OVER THE YEARS. IF WE WANT TO RENT, YOU KNOW, AND YOU COULD ANY YOU CAN THINK ABOUT THIS AT ANY LEVEL, WHETHER IT'S AN EVENT SPACE OUT HERE, WHETHER IT'S A PICNIC PAVILION IN A NEIGHBORHOOD PARK, WE DON'T HAVE SERVICE DEPARTMENT STAFF AFTER 330. AND SO IF WE WANT TO

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YEAH. ANOTHER GOOD REASON FOR THAT. ANOTHER GOOD PURPOSE FOR THE HOUSE PARTIES. BIRTHDAY PARTIES. YEAH. I MEAN, I THINK THERE'D BE A I THINK THERE'S A NEED FOR SPACE LIKE THAT. WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE AS A CITY WE'RE READY TO DO THAT. THE LEVEL BECAUSE YEAH, RIGHT NOW WE'RE NOT SOURCE STAFFING. I KIND OF ECHO MATT'S CONCERNS. I THINK THAT I LIKE THE DESIGN OF THE PAVILION THAT YOU SHOWED IN THE GROUNDS AROUND THAT, THAT THAT'S ALL TERRIFIC. BUT IF WE DON'T HAVE PLACES FOR PEOPLE TO PARK, WE'RE CREATING A NIGHTMARE FOR OURSELVES DOWN THE ROAD. AND AND I UNDERSTAND MEETING SPACE AND THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT DESIGN ON KITZMILLER. AND MAYBE THAT'S A PLACE YOU PUT THE GATHERING PLACE OR THE MEETING PLACES WHERE YOU HAVE MORE LAND FOR PARKING AND YOU CREATE THAT. THIS IS A GREAT SPACE. BUT IF WE CAN'T PUT PARKING THERE, IT'S ALREADY A NIGHTMARE ON A BUSY, YOU KNOW, A NICE DAYS.

YOU CAN'T GET IN THERE TO PARK. GETTING IN AND OUT IS A CHALLENGE AND IT WOULD BE NICE TO DO IT THERE. BUT I'M THINKING MORE OF THE PRACTICALITY OF IT. I DON'T WANT TO BE SITTING HERE THREE YEARS FROM NOW AND SAYING, GEEZ, WE CAN'T GET IN OR OUT. WE GET IT ON AND ON. AND MAYBE WHERE YOU HAVE A BLANK SLATE LIKE KITZMILLER, MAYBE THAT'S A PLACE TO PUT UP A FACILITY LIKE THAT WHERE PEOPLE CAN MEET, OR IT'S A PAVILION OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE AND HAVE ADEQUATE PARKING. YEAH, IT'S DEFINITELY A LIMITING FACTOR OUT THERE.

YEAH. AND I MEAN, IT'S A GREAT SPACE AND I'M NOT ANTI IT, BUT I'M TRYING TO LOOK AT THE OBJECTIVE OF REALLY USING IT. YOU KNOW. SO AND I DON'T DISAGREE I THINK WE KIND OF LOOK AT IT THE HOUSE AND THE BARN TWO SEPARATE. YOU KNOW FOR THE PURPOSE OF THIS. AND I MEAN I LOVE PRESERVING THE HOUSE. I DON'T LOVE THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, JUST TO DUMP A COUPLE MILLION DOLLARS INTO SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A USE FOR AND A PLAN FOR. IS THERE A CITY USE, JOE, WHERE, I MEAN, AS WE'RE SEARCHING FOR OFFICE SPACE, YOU KNOW, THE EVENTS TEAM OR SOMEBODY, INSTEAD OF BEING CRAMMED INTO THEIR CURRENT SPACE. SO WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT. THE EVENTS TEAM HAS NOW MOVED OUT TO THE RED ROOF BUILDING. BUT AGAIN, THAT'S A THAT'S A A SHORT TERM SOLUTION RELATIVELY SHORT TERM. WE HAVE A SEVEN YEAR LEASE WITH AN OUT PROVISION AFTER FIVE YEARS. AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S A WITH THE GROWTH OF THE COMMUNITY, I COULD FORESEE A FUTURE PURPOSE FOR THAT SPACE. THERE IS SOME HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE TO THE BUILDING. IT'S IN REALLY VERY FOR ITS AGE AND FOR THE LACK OF MAINTENANCE ON THE BUILDING. IT'S IN VERY GOOD CONDITION. YOU KNOW, WHEN WE REDID THE PHELPS HOUSE, WE WEREN'T QUITE SURE WE HAD, YOU KNOW, WE HAD THE STAFF OF THE MCCOY IN THERE BEFORE TOOK OVER.

BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THAT'S SORT OF SOME, SOME. SOME PURPOSES FOR CITY OPERATIONS.

WE ACTUALLY HAVE SOME FOLKS THAT ARE VERY INTERESTED IN THAT SPACE. NOW THAT THE THE FACILITIES TEAM HAS MOVED OUT. SO LONG WINDED ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION, I THINK IN THE FUTURE THERE COULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MOVE SOME CITY OPERATIONS THERE, OR MAYBE SOME OF OUR OTHER COMMUNITY PARTNERS. I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR THE CHAMBER OR THE FOUNDATION OR SOME OF THE OTHER UP AND COMING ORGANIZATIONS, BUT I THINK THERE COULD BE SOME OPPORTUNITIES. IS THERE A WAY TO DO THIS WHERE WE DO? I GUESS THIS WAS THE ORIGINAL THING WHERE WE DO KIND OF THE OUTSIDE, AND MAYBE WE WAIT TO DO THE INSIDE UNTIL WE HAVE LIKE KIND OF A BETTER IDEA OF A POTENTIAL USE FOR IT. YEAH. SO ACTUALLY, WHEN WE GET TO OUR VOTING EXERCISE, AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE CAME UP WITH THE OPTIONS. WE THOUGHT FOR THE RANGE OF OPTIONS THAT WE THOUGHT WE HAD, WHICH ONE WOULD BE EXTERIOR? ONLY ONE WOULD BE HOMESTEAD INTERIOR AND EXTERIOR ONLY, BARN PAVILION ONLY. OR DO IT ALL SO YOU'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE IN THOSE FOUR OPTIONS. IF IF THERE'S ANOTHER OPTION THAT YOU WANT US

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SO YOU HAVE, AS ADRIAN SAID, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF OPTIONS TO CHOOSE FROM. I TEND TO LEAN TOWARDS WHAT MIKE SAID, WHICH IS I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT US CREATING EVENT SPACE THERE AND HAVING EVERYBODY ANGRY WITH US BECAUSE THERE'S NOWHERE FOR THEM TO PARK, BECAUSE WE'RE ALREADY SEEING THAT WITH JUST WHAT'S THERE NOW. IT'S A VERY SPECIAL PLACE AND I WANT IT TO STAY A VERY SPECIAL PLACE. BUT I'M AFRAID IF WE ADD TOO MUCH THERE, WE MAY BE REGRETTING IT.

I REALLY WANT US TO DO SOMETHING WITH THAT HOUSE. WHATEVER. WHETHER IT ENDS UP BEING OFFICE SPACE OR WHATEVER. AND I BELIEVE VERY STRONGLY IF WE IF WE BUILD IT, THEY WILL COME, RIGHT. WE'LL FIGURE OUT A GREAT USE FOR IT. MAYBE WHAT WE DO IS, YOU KNOW, PHASE IT LIKE WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO SUGGEST, MAYBE DO THE EXTERIOR, MAYBE JUST DO ENOUGH TO KIND OF GET THE SMELLS OUT OF THE INSIDE, YOU KNOW, GET IT A LITTLE LESS CHANGE THE DRAPES. I MEAN, I COULD EVEN LITERALLY AT SOME POINT JUST BE A, LIKE A HISTORICAL PLACE WHERE PEOPLE CAN JUST GO IN AND TAKE A TOUR AND IT TALKS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THERE'S A COOL HISTORY TO THAT HOUSE AND TO THAT FAMILY AND TO THE BEGINNINGS OF NEW ALBANY TIED TO IT, EVEN IF IT JUST BECAME NOTHING MORE THAN THAT. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS KNOW, BUT THE, THE, THE ORIGINAL OWNER, THEY HAD COURT DOWN IN THE BASEMENT AND I THINK THEY HAD LIKE LITTLE JAIL CELL DOWN IN THE BASEMENT FOR PEOPLE. RIGHT. AND THEY AT ONE POINT WHERE THEY WERE LIKE OLD PEOPLE. YEAH. YEAH. THE LIKE SO IF YOU CAME IN FOR COURT, YOU'D GO THROUGH A SEPARATE DOOR THAT WENT RIGHT INTO THE BASEMENT. YEAH. I MEAN, SO THERE'S ALL OF THAT, EVEN IF IT BECAME NOTHING ELSE, I THINK IT IS JUST A IT'S TO ME, IT'S THE IT IS THE JEWEL OF THE WHOLE OF THAT WHOLE PARK TO ME, THAT WHOLE AREA RIGHT THERE. SO I FEEL STRONGLY WE SHOULD PRESERVE IT EVEN IF WE DON'T GO ALL THE WAY WITH IT RIGHT NOW, JUST TO JUST TO MAINTAIN IT, NOT LET IT FALL APART ANY FURTHER AND PROTECT IT AS AN ASSET AND THEN FIGURE IT OUT. BUT I ALSO, LIKE I SAID, I DO AGREE WITH MIKE. I THINK WE'VE GOT TO BE CAREFUL BECAUSE IF THERE'S IF IT'S GOING TO BE COST PROHIBITIVE TO GET MORE PARKING OVER THERE, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE GETTING ANGRY WITH US. YOU KNOW, THAT WAS A BIG DISCUSSION POINT WITH THE DESIGN TEAM WHEN WE WERE THINKING ABOUT THE BARN PAVILION, BECAUSE WE WENT IN THERE STUDYING. COULD THIS BE LIKE A BIG EVENT SPACE? AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT LED US TO THE DESIGN THAT YOU SEE TODAY, THAT IT'S NOT YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO WARMING KITCHEN. THERE'S NONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU WOULD NEED IF YOU WANTED TO DO A BIG EVENT. AND SO I THINK WHETHER IT'S RIGHT OR WRONG, I THINK WE BACK DOWN FROM THAT AND TRY TO DESIGN SOMETHING THAT COULD STILL BE AN AMENITY TO THE PARK AND BE USED BY PEOPLE, BUT ISN'T GOING TO DRIVE THE PARKING THAT AN EVENT, WOULD I? THE OTHER PIECE OF THAT IS US AT SOME POINT DECIDING WHAT DO WE WANT TO RENT THINGS OUT OR NOT? AND MAYBE WE DON'T AT ALL FOR ANY SIZE EVENT. OR MAYBE WE WILL RENT FOR A CERTAIN SIZE AT CERTAIN HOURS OF THE DAY. I THINK THERE'S A WHOLE POLICY ABOUT RENTAL OF CITY FACILITIES THAT WE WE NEED TO GET INTO THAT WE HAVEN'T DONE YET. BUT AGAIN, WE THE THIS BARN PAVILION THAT YOU SEE WAS THE INTENTION WAS TO BE MORE OF AN AMENITY FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE USING THE PARK ANYWAYS AND NOT FOR LIKE RENTING IT OUT FOR SOME SORT OF CORPORATE EVENT, BIRTHDAY PARTY AND WEDDING, ANYTHING LIKE THAT. SO JUST YEAH, I GET IT. BUT I STILL THINK THE MORE YOU PUT THERE, THE MORE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO WANT TO COME AND THE MORE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE EVERYBODY YELLING AT EVERYBODY. IT'S DEFINITELY A, LIKE I SAID, A LIMITING FACTOR. WE CALL THAT IN LAW SCHOOL AN ATTRACTIVE NUISANCE. SO SO YOU'LL GET A CHANCE TO VOTE ON THOSE OPTIONS. AT THE END OF THE DAY, THIS IS ALL THAT, YOU KNOW, LIKE WE HAVE A GOOD LEVEL OF INFORMATION TO HELP YOU GUYS MAKE A DECISION ON WHAT YOU WANT TO DO. THERE IS IS THE OUTLOOK A SEPARATE PIECE IN THE. WELL, FROM A BUDGET STANDPOINT, IT'S IN WITH THE BARN BUDGET. BUT WE COULD I COULD I'D LIKE IF YOU WANT TO GIVE THAT DIRECTION WE COULD BREAK THAT OUT AND LOOK AT THAT COST. MIGHT BE YEAH. BECAUSE I, I COMPLETELY AGREE THAT THE OUTLOOK IS CURRENTLY ON THE BOARDWALK IS YEAH, THERE'S

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LET'S GO BACK HERE. NEXT UP IS BRIAN TO TALK ABOUT INTERIOR SPACE PLANNING AND BUILD OUT.

RIGHT. THANK YOU ADRIAN. OH YEAH. SHE THANKS TO YOU I CAN'T LOOK AT THAT PICTURE WITHOUT THINKING OF AN ACTIVE SHOOTER SITUATION. OH, NO. I KNOW IT'S LIKE PTSD. IT'S LIKE, OH, SHOOT.

WE GOTTA WE GOTTA GET IN THERE NOW. IT'S A POLICE ACADEMY JOKE. SORRY. AND IT JUST OPENED UP, RIGHT? YEAH. JUST SO POLICE ACADEMY IS JUST GETTING READY. YEAH. WELCOME BACK. THERE YOU GO. RIGHT. YEAH. THE ALUMNI GROUP. ALL RIGHT, SO JUMPING INTO THIS, THIS IS THE PUBLIC SERVICE INTERIOR SPACE PLANNING AND BUILD OUT. COUNCIL MAY RECALL THAT LAST YEAR, 325,000 WAS FUNDED TO BEGIN ADDRESSING THE SPACE AND STORAGE NEEDS AT THE PUBLIC PUBLIC SERVICE BUILDING. THAT WAS AN IMPORTANT FIRST STEP. BUT AS WE'VE REALLY DUG IN AND EVALUATED MORE CLOSELY, IT'S BECOME CLEAR THAT THE NEEDS ARE BROADER THAN ORIGINALLY SCOPED AND 2025. THE DEPARTMENT IS STAFFED WITH 48 EMPLOYEES, 39 OF WHICH ARE FULL TIME POSITIONS. THAT NUMBER IS PROJECTED TO GROW SLIGHTLY IN 2026 AS WE ALIGN STAFFING WITH SERVICE DEMANDS AND EXPANDED RESPONSIBILITIES. TODAY, THE BUILDING HAS ONLY SIX OFFICES AND A DEDICATED SPACE FOR CUBICLES. THE SUPERVISORS. SO OUR SUPERVISORS SPEND THE MAJORITY OF THEIR TIME OUT IN THE FIELD, BUT THEY NEED A PERMANENT WORK STATION FOR BOTH THEIR MORNING AND LATE AFTERNOON WORK, WHERE THEY ARE CHECKING AND RESPONDING TO WORK ORDERS, SCHEDULING AND PLANNING WORK FOR THEIR CREWS, REPORTING, ORDERING MATERIAL, CHECKING THEIR EMAILS AND RESPONDING.

AND IT'S IT'S A LONG LIST OF THINGS. IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE HAVE OUR ENGINEERS, TECHNICIANS, MANAGERS AND ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF ALL REQUIRING PERMANENT WORK STATIONS. THE 2026 BUDGET REQUEST INCLUDES THE 325,000 CARRY CARRIED FORWARD FROM LAST YEAR, WITH AN ADDITIONAL 675,000, FOR A TOTAL OF 1 MILLION. TO ADDRESS THESE NEEDS AND SUPPORT LONG TERM OPERATIONS. THIS YEAR'S PROPOSAL BUILDS ON WHAT THE COUNCIL HAD APPROVED LAST YEAR, BUT EXPANDS THE SCOPE TO FURTHER MEET OUR NEEDS. IF APPROVED, THIS PLAN WOULD CREATE ADDITIONAL OFFICES AND WORKSTATIONS, ADD A COLLABORATION AND MEETING SPACE, ADD STORAGE FOR PARTS AND EQUIPMENT. AND I DON'T HAVE A BULLET FOR THIS, BUT IT WOULD ALSO ADDRESS OUR LOCKER NEED. WE'RE JUST SIMPLY OUT OF LOCKER SPACE AND OUT OF LOCKERS FOR OUR STAFF. ALL OF THIS WOULD BE DONE WITHIN THE EXISTING FOOTPRINT OF OUR BUILDING. SO NO, NO NEED TO ADD ON. AND I'M CONFIDENT WE CAN HAVE SOME COST SAVINGS THERE TO MAXIMIZE WHAT WE HAVE. WE THE MAJORITY OF THE WORK WILL OCCUR IN THE UNFINISHED MEZZANINE SPACE THAT WAS PICTURED IN THE SLIDE ABOVE. WE ARE. WE HAVE LOOKED FOR A FEW OTHER OPPORTUNITIES THROUGHOUT THE BUILDING TO MAKE SOME SLIGHT ADJUSTMENTS TO FURTHER MAXIMIZE THE SPACE AND STORAGE. AND THE BENEFITS ARE PRETTY SIMPLE, BUT BUT MUCH NEEDED. THIS BUILD OUT WITH THIS BUILD OUT WILL ADD OFFICE AND WORKSTATION CAPACITY FOR OUR TEAM ADDRESS. THE LOCKER ROOM NEEDS PROVIDE MEETING AND COLLABORATION SPACE AND CREATE NEEDED STORAGE FOR OUR PARTS AND EQUIPMENT. SO WITH THAT, I'M. THAT'S THE END OF THE SLIDE DECK FOR FOR THIS ITEM AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE WE MOVE ON. JUST A QUICK QUESTION IN THE STORAGE FOR EQUIPMENT. YOU KNOW, WE WE TALKED ABOUT ADDING THAT ON LAST YEAR. IS THERE ANY OPPORTUNITY TO EXPAND THE SIZE OF THAT STORAGE? OBVIOUSLY IN THE FUTURE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE NEEDS. BUT IF WE'RE GOING INTO BUILD NOW, WHY NOT MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT LARGER, GIVE US SOME MARGIN FOR FUTURE GROWTH INTO THAT, BECAUSE AS WE GROW, EQUIPMENT IS GOING TO INCREASE TO THAT. YOU WANT TO GET UNDER ROOF. SO GOOD QUESTION. SO THERE'S TWO PROJECTS FOR NEXT

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YES. SO THAT'S THAT'S RIGHT. THAT'S ON THE LIST TO ROLL OVER OKAY. THAT BUILDING WAS ORIGINALLY I CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT I WOULD SAY WITH THE TRANSITION OF MIKE LEAVING AND RYAN TAKING OVER, WE WANTED TO REVISIT THAT AND MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE COMFORTABLE WITH THE DESIGN THAT MIKE WAS ORIGINALLY PROPOSING. AND I THINK FOR THE MOST PART, WE ARE, BUT THAT WAS WHY THAT WAS DELAYED AND NOT BEING CONSTRUCTED THIS YEAR. OKAY. YEAH, I JUST AS WE'RE BUILDING A NEW BUILDING, CLEARLY WE SEE HOW CONSTRUCTION COSTS ARE CONSTANTLY ESCALATING.

IF WE ARE GOING TO DO IT, ADDING X MORE SPACE TO THAT SECOND BUILDING TODAY GIVES YOU SOME MARGIN IN THE FUTURE WHERE WE DON'T HAVE TO SPEND A LOT MORE TO BUILD ON TO IT BY JUST MAKING IT A LITTLE BIT LARGER. NOW, JUST A THOUGHT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SO THE LAST ONE ON OUR LIST UP THERE OF PREVIOUSLY PLANNED PROJECTS IS A PICKLEBALL FACILITY. AND SO WE HAVE SOME OPTIONS TO TALK ABOUT I THINK THESE WERE SENT OUT THIS SUMMER. BUT THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT THE OPTIONS. AND THEN LIKE TAYLOR FARM, AT THE END OF THE DAY WITH OUR VOTING EXERCISES, A RANGE OF OPTIONS AND YOU'LL BE ABLE TO VOTE ON WHICH OPTION YOU THINK IS THE BEST MOVING FORWARD. SO I THINK RYAN AND JOE HAVE SOME INFORMATION TO TAKE YOU THROUGH. ALL RIGHT. SO WE'LL JUST JUMP RIGHT IN HERE. SO LAST SEPTEMBER A YEAR AGO, COUNCIL ASKED STAFF TO CONTINUE EVALUATING IMPROVEMENTS FOR PICKLEBALL FACILITY. THESE IMPROVEMENTS INCLUDED SHADE, RESTROOMS AND SOUND MITIGATION.

OVER THE PAST YEAR, STAFF HAS REFINED THOSE CONCEPTS INTO FOUR OPTIONS WITH PRELIMINARY ESTIMATES. WE'VE USED QUOTES FROM OUR ENGINEER AND ARCHITECT. THEY WORK WITH THEIR CONTRACTOR TO FORM THOSE NUMBERS THAT WERE PROVIDED IN IN THE JULY MEMO. AND THEN WE'VE ALSO RECENTLY RECEIVED SOME FEEDBACK FROM MESSER. THEY'VE PROVIDED SOME ADDITIONAL SOME COST INFORMATION. SO THAT WAY WE HAVE TWO DATA POINTS TO WORK FROM TO GIVE US A GOOD BALLPARK FOR FOR THE COST. OVER THE PAST YEAR, THE PARK IMPROVEMENT FUND HAS GROWN AND IS NOW JUST OVER $4.3 MILLION AVAILABLE, WHICH INCLUDES THE CARRYOVER FROM LAST YEAR. COUNCIL'S DIRECTION THIS YEAR WILL SET THE SCOPE FOR MOVING THIS PROJECT FORWARD IN 2026. AS I SAID EARLIER, STAFF HAS REFINED THE CONCEPTS INTO FOUR MAIN OPTIONS. THE FIRST IS A ROOF ONLY STRUCTURE WHICH WOULD COVER ALL 16 COURTS. THE SECOND IS AN EIGHT COURT ENCLOSURE, THE THIRD IS A BLEACHER SHADE STRUCTURES AND THE FOURTH IS A PERMANENT RESTROOM FACILITY. AND THEN THE.

THE COST RANGES ARE SHOWN TO THE RIGHT OF EACH OPTION. I'LL WALK THROUGH EACH OPTION BRIEFLY SO YOU HAVE A SENSE OF THE BENEFITS AND CHALLENGES. OPTION NUMBER ONE IS THE ROOF ONLY STRUCTURE. THIS OPTION WOULD PLACE A ROOF OVER ALL 16 COURTS WHILE KEEPING THEM OPEN AIR. THE MAIN BENEFITS ARE RELIABILITY AND COMFORT. PLAY CAN CONTINUE DURING RAIN OR EXTREME SUN, AND THE SEASON IS EXTENDED QUITE A BIT WELL INTO THE FALL AND THE SPRING. WITH

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SO WHILE IT PROVIDES THE GREATEST COMFORT, IT ALSO BRINGS THE LARGEST LONG TERM OPERATING COMMITMENT. OPTION NUMBER THREE ARE THE BLEACHER SHADE STRUCTURES. THIS OPTION WOULD ADD PERMANENT SHADE CANOPIES OVER THE BLEACHER AREAS. THE BENEFIT IS COMFORT DURING HOT WEATHER. IT GIVES PLAYERS AND SPECTATORS A PLACE TO STEP OUT OF THE SUN AND COOL OFF. AT ABOUT 325,000, IT IS THE LOWEST COST OPTION ON THE TABLE. THE CHALLENGES ARE THAT THE IMPACT IS LIMITED COMPARED TO THE OTHER OPTIONS, SINCE THE COURTS THEMSELVES REMAIN UNCOVERED. THE SHADE. THE SHADE STRUCTURES ALSO USE A FABRIC MATERIAL THAT HAVE A SHORTER LIFESPAN AND WOULD NEED TO BE REPLACED PERIODICALLY SOMEWHERE IN THE EVERY TEN YEAR RANGE. SO WHILE THIS PROVIDES A QUICK AND AFFORDABLE IMPROVEMENT, IT DOESN'T OFFER THE SAME LONG TERM DURABILITY OR SEASONAL BENEFITS AS THE ROOF OR ENCLOSURE OPTIONS. AND THE THIRD OPTION IS A LITTLE UNIQUE IN THAT WE'RE TURNING AWAY FROM THE COURTS AND LOOKING AT A NEW RESTROOM FACILITY. THIS OPTION WOULD ADD A PERMANENT RESTROOM TO THE CAMPUS. THE BENEFIT IS CONVENIENCE. IT WOULD PROVIDE A YEAR ROUND RESTROOM FOR PLAYERS AND VISITORS, FULLY ADA ACCESSIBLE, AND THEN THE CONCEPT THAT WE'RE USING HAS THIS ALCOVE IN THE FRONT WITH A WATER BOTTLE FILLING STATION, ALONG WITH DRINKING FOUNTAINS. A SMALL STORAGE AND MECHANICAL ROOM WOULD ALSO BE A PART OF THE DESIGN. AS HAS BEEN ALLUDED TO A FEW TIMES, WE WERE CONTINUALLY REALIZING THAT WE NEED MORE STORAGE. OUR ARCHITECT ALSO HELPED WALK US THROUGH THIS, THAT WE WOULD NEED TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS THE PLUMBING BEHIND EACH ONE OF THE RESTROOMS, SO IT'S A FUNCTION OF NEED AS WELL. THE BUILDING WOULD BE DESIGNED TO MATCH THE ESTHETIC OF OTHER FACILITIES ON THE CAMPUS, SO IT'LL FEEL JUST LIKE A, YOU KNOW, A PART OF THE PARK ENVIRONMENT. AND THE CURRENT ESTIMATE FOR THIS IS IN THE RANGE OF 750,000 TO $1 MILLION. THAT'S EXPENSIVE. AND FINALLY, THIS LAST SLIDE SUMMARIZES THE DECISION POINTS, LISTING ALL OF THE FOUR REFINED OPTIONS. THE ROOF ONLY STRUCTURE WITH ITS COST RANGE,

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NOW FOR A PROJECT THE SCALE OF KITZMILLER OR WHAT I'M ANTICIPATING KITZMILLER TO BE THAT'S LIKELY GOING TO REQUIRE SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDING, EITHER IN THE FORM OF A TRANSFER FROM THE GENERAL FUND OR USE OF SOME OF THE OTHER CAPITAL FUNDS. WAS THIS A KITZMILLER WOULD BE LIKE COMPLETELY SEPARATE OR SEPARATELY FUNDED PROJECT OR WOULD INCLUDE KITZMILLER WOULD SEPARATE, SEPARATELY FUNDED. SO CONCEIVABLY POCKET PARKS, THINGS LIKE THAT. WE HAVE TO WORK ON ANY ADDITIONAL TRAILS, THINGS LIKE THAT WOULD DRAW UPON THIS FUND. TYPICALLY. YES.

THAT MONEY IS NOT SOLELY FOR PICKLEBALL. CORRECT. OKAY. IS THERE AND I DON'T MAYBE IT'S BEEN THOUGHT THROUGH THE WITH THE RESTROOM FACILITY. AND I KNOW WE HAD AN ITERATION A WHILE BACK WHERE THE PARKS WAS GOING TO KIND OF GO IN WITH US. AND THE DISCUSSION WE JUST HAD AT TAYLOR AND POTENTIALLY REPURPOSING BETTELHEIM OR BARN IS THERE. COULD WE KIND OF COMBINE THOSE TWO PROJECTS, A BATHROOM HERE, TAKE THE BETHLEHEM EVENT SPACE THAT WE WERE GOING TO DO AT TAYLOR, AND MAYBE DO THAT HERE, WHERE WE INCORPORATE THE RESTROOM FACILITY AND AN EVENT SPACE AT THIS LOCATION, AND THEN THE SYNERGY WITH THE REPURPOSING, I THINK WE WOULD RUN OUT OF ROOM. WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO PRESERVE SOME OF THE SPACE ON THE BILHEIMER HOMESTEAD FOR EXPANSION OF THE SERVICE FACILITY, AND YOU'RE GOING TO SEE A PRESENTATION BY THE CHIEF HERE IN A FEW MINUTES ABOUT A POLICE TRAINING AREA OR FACILITY BUILDING. I THINK WE'D WANT TO BE REALLY THOUGHTFUL ABOUT WHAT WE COULD POTENTIALLY DO. IF YOU'D BE INTERESTED, IS TAKE THAT SAME CONCEPT AND MAYBE MOVE IT ACROSS THE STREET ON THE WEST SIDE OF BILHEIMER, NEXT TO THE FIELDHOUSE. WE STILL HAVE ON THE PROPERTY THAT THERE WERE TWO PARCELS THERE ON THE 73 ACRE PROPERTY, THE ONE ON THE WEST SIDE OF. OF THE 73 ACRES, IT COULD POTENTIALLY ACCOMMODATE SOME TYPE OF A. EVENTS FACILITY. I JUST DON'T KNOW. I'M SORRY. I DON'T KNOW HOW PRACTICAL OR HELPFUL EVENTS BASED UP THERE WILL BE BECAUSE PEOPLE CAN GET EXPENSE SPACE AT THE REC CENTER, THE FIELDHOUSE, INDOOR. YEAH, THEY'LL HAVE INDOOR SPACE IN THIS. YOU'RE THINKING LIKE AN WITH THE BARN. IT'S LIKE JUST OPEN THE FIREPLACE KIND OF. OH YEAH, THE WEXNER CENTER. OH YEAH, I CAN SEE THAT. BUT YEAH, I KNOW WE HAD AN ITERATION A WHILE BACK WHERE PARKS DEPARTMENT WAS GOING TO. YEAH, THEY WERE GOING TO BUILD SOMETHING. AND I KNOW, YOU KNOW, THE BATHROOMS ARE SO EXPENSIVE THAT I'M TRYING TO HOPE THERE'S SOME OPPORTUNITY TO SAVE SOME MONEY. YEAH. NO, I AGREE, I THINK TO WE JUST BOUGHT 49 ACRES THAT COULD BE POTENTIALLY USED FOR COMMUNITY SPACE, WHICH COULD ULTIMATELY BE IN A PARK SETTING ENVIRONMENT OR WHATEVER. SO I THINK THERE'S POTENTIAL USE FOR FUNDS THERE DOWN THE ROAD TOO. SO I WANT TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT WHAT WE COMMIT HERE OUT OF A POOL LIKE THAT, WHEN WE HAVE MULTIPLE OTHER AVENUES THAT ARE GOING TO COME ALONG AND WE NEED TO SPEND ON, I THINK, CASEY, TO YOUR POINT, IF WE WERE TO WORK WITH THE JOINT PARK DISTRICT AND TRY TO BUILD SOMETHING ON GROUND THAT THEY OWN, I THINK I THINK THERE'S THERE'S SOMETHING THAT COULD BE ACCOMPLISHED THERE. I THINK MY RESPONSE WAS, IF WE WERE THINKING ABOUT A LARGER SCALE EVENT OR MEETING SPACE. RIGHT NOW THAT WE'RE WE'RE VERY LIMITED ON WHAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE THAT WOULDN'T NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE THE CITY'S. OPERATIONAL SPACE OR OPERATIONAL NEEDS. YEAH. WAS THE ONE THAT WAS PROPOSED BEFORE ON. THEIR DIRT. YES.

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I WOULD HOPE THEY GIVE US SOME LENIENCY, CONSIDERING EVERYTHING WE'VE PUT IN. WE'VE BEEN PRETTY OKAY, PARTNER. YEAH. WELL, THE BATHROOMS GOING TO BE USED BY EVERYBODY AT THE AT THE BASKETBALL COURTS AND EVERYTHING ELSE OVER THERE. AND WE'RE GOING TO BE THE ONES CLEANING IT, MAINTAINING IT. THERE'S PEOPLE FISHING ALL THE TIME ON THE POND THAT WOULD PROBABLY USE IT TO CLEAN THEIR HANDS. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE OTHER PROBABLY ATHLETIC FACILITIES OUT THERE ACROSS THE STREET. YOU JUST THERE'LL BE A LOT OF USE. YEAH. I'M CONCERNED TOO MUCH USE. WHAT'S THAT? I SAID MY CONCERN IS TOO MUCH USE. NOT NOT ENOUGH USE THOUGH. I'LL JUST ADD JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS. AND NOT THAT I AM SAYING ANY OPTION IS BETTER THAN ANY OTHER ONES. OPTION TWO. ALSO, ONE OF THE THINGS, IF THAT WAS WHAT COUNCIL WANTED TO DO, THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT RENOVATE REVENUE GENERATING OPPORTUNITY IN THE WINTER BECAUSE YOU WOULD THOSE COURTS WOULD NOT BE PROBABLY FREE. THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE ALL RENTAL ALL WINTER. AND THAT'S JUST KIND OF HOW IT GOES, BECAUSE WE'LL HAVE YOU'D HAVE TO HAVE SOMEONE OUT THERE AT ALL TIMES IN THAT BUILDING. AND SO I'M ASSUMING THAT WE COULD GENERATE REVENUE FROM THAT, JUST LIKE PICKLE AND CHILL AND EVERY OTHER PLACE THAT HAS AN INDOOR FACILITY WITH THE ROOF ONLY STRUCTURE SIMILAR TO THE EIGHT COURT ONE. I'VE ALREADY HAD REQUESTS FOR TOURNAMENTS TO COME IN AND PLAY. THAT WOULD PROBABLY GIVE US A BETTER OPTION FOR TOURNAMENT PLAY. ONLY BECAUSE OF THE WEATHER DOESN'T BECOME A FACTOR. SO ANYWAYS, TWO OTHER THINGS TO THINK ABOUT. SO IF YOU HAVE THE THE FULLY ENCLOSED AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOMEBODY THERE ALL YEAR ROUND, BUT IT'S FREE IN THE SUMMERTIME, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? I WOULD SAY IF WE, IF, IF WE DECIDED OPTION TWO BECAUSE IT'S AN INDOOR FACILITY, IT'S IT ALWAYS A RENTAL THEN. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? IS IT WHAT. I'M SORRY. ARE YOU SAYING THAT IT'S ALWAYS A RENTAL BECAUSE WE HAVE TO PAY FOR SOMEBODY TO. NO, I WOULD JUST SAY WINTER IS PROBABLY WHEN YOU WOULD WANT TO HAVE THE RENTAL FACILITIES JUST BECAUSE OF WHERE WE ARE. AND IT'S SUCH HIGH DEMAND THAT THAT WOULD BE. YEAH. BUT IF WE'RE GOING TO, WE'RE GOING TO PAY $8 MILLION FOR SOMETHING. I WOULD HOPE THAT WE'RE GETTING REVENUE YEAR ROUND, NOT JUST IN FEBRUARY, MARCH AND APRIL. AND YOU COULD DO THAT TOO. YOU COULD ABSOLUTELY DO THAT. DO WE KNOW HAVE WE DONE ANY RESEARCH TO FIND OUT IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER GOVERNMENTAL AGENCIES THAT HAVE DONE SOMETHING LIKE THIS WHERE IT'S A FULLY ENCLOSED AND THEN THEY'RE CHARGING RENT FOR, FOR PICKLEBALL ANYWHERE, AND HOW IF THEY'VE HAD SUCCESS WITH THAT AND WHAT KIND OF I HAVE ALL THE NUMBERS GOVERNMENTAL AGENCY. PROBABLY NOT. I MEAN, WE ALL KNOW THERE'S PLENTY OF PRIVATE. YEAH, YEAH. FACILITIES. I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OTHER FACILITIES.

HOW DO PEOPLE FEEL ABOUT US TAKING TAX DOLLARS AND DOING THIS AND CREATING. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? YEAH, I'M I AM NOT AWARE OF A STRUCTURE WITH A ROOF OVER IT FROM A GOVERNMENTAL AGENCY, A PARKS. YES. PARK AND REC AGENCY GROUP, YOU KNOW, LIKE, BUT NOT IN OHIO THAT I CAN. WELL, IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER PARK DEPARTMENTS I'D BE CURIOUS TO HEAR ABOUT. YEAH, SARASOTA IS AN EXAMPLE HAS WHICH IS WHAT THESE COURTS WERE DESIGNED AFTER. GT BREAKS IS

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AGAIN RECOMMENDING THAT THESE ARE FUNDED THAT ADAPTED FALLS OFF. AND WHAT WE AND WE'LL GIVE YOU OPTIONS TO VOTE FOR FOR WHAT YOU WANT TO DO WITH TAYLOR AND FOR PICKLEBALL AND THEN TO TO WRAP UP THE DAY, WE HAVE THREE NEW PROJECTS TO TALK ABOUT. SO THESE ARE PROJECTS THAT HAVEN'T BEEN ON THE CIP BEFORE. THEY'VE KIND OF COME UP FOR DIFFERENT REASONS OVER THIS PAST YEAR. SO WE HAVE PRESENTATIONS ON ALL OF THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE NEW. CHIEF, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TRAINING FACILITY. STEVE IS GOING TO TALK ABOUT WAYFINDING RELATED TO PARKS AND TRAILS, AND THEN A PROJECT RELATED TO SOMEONE EARLIER TALKED ABOUT. WE WERE GOING TO STUDY HOW TO GET PEOPLE TO GANTON WHEN THE BALL FIELDS WERE THERE. NOW WE STUDY HOW TO GET PEOPLE UP TOWARDS THE DISCOVER SITE. SO WE'RE CALLING THAT THE 605 STREETSCAPE SECTION ONE WINDSOR TO HAMLET CONCEPT DESIGN. AND WE'LL TALK.

IT JUST ROLLS OFF THE TONGUE THERE. WE'LL TALK ABOUT WHAT THAT MEANS AND WHAT WE THINK WE NEED TO DO TO FIGURE THAT OUT. SO CHEAP. YEAH, I THINK THE THE SLIDE WE JUST WENT AWAY FROM HAD ONE A COUPLE OF CORRECTIONS OR JUST ONE I SHOULD SAY IS THE IT HAS 7.5 UP THERE FOR THE, FOR THE BONDS. I THINK THAT WE'VE GOT A BETTER NUMBER RECENTLY AND IT'S, IT'S SIX NOT 7.5. SO THE BUILDING ITSELF THIS WOULD BE A DRAWING OF THE EXTERIOR. WHAT'S PROPOSED. AND THIS WOULD BE IT LOOKS LIKE TO THE SOUTH OF THE WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE LAID WOULD BE SOUTH OF THE SERVICE DEPARTMENT COMPLEX, BUT BUT STILL NORTH OF WALNUT STREET. SO AND THIS DESIGN, I GUESS, TO GO BACK TO WHERE THIS GOT STARTED WAS IF YOU IF YOU RECALL, I MENTIONED THAT THE DEFENSIVE TACTICS AREA WAS ELIMINATED FROM THE PD WHEN WE WERE DESIGNED, THE RENOVATIONS. SO THE THOUGHT WAS, IS THAT I THINK HOW THIS GOT STARTED WAS TO MAYBE MOVE SOME OF THE TRAINING FUNCTIONS UP TO THE SERVICE DEPARTMENT AREA, AND, AND THIS DRAWING HERE KIND OF SHOWS A LOT OF DIFFERENT FUNCTIONS THAT THE BUILDING CAN SERVE. OBVIOUSLY, I THINK EARLIER WE TALKED ABOUT THE RANGE, BUT TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THOSE OTHER AREAS THERE, IF YOU LOOK AT THE TO THE LEFT OF THE RANGE. TO THE RIGHT OF THAT MEETING AREA, THERE IS A BACKUP RADIO ROOM. AND SO WITH THE HIGHER ADMINISTRATIVE CODE REQUIRES THAT WE HAVE A BACKUP RADIO ROOM. WE ARE A PUBLIC SERVICE ANSWERING POINT FOR 911. CURRENTLY WE'RE A A SECONDARY APP. BUT THE CITY IS IN THE PROCESS OF TURNING OVER TO A A. A FIRST LINE APP. SO BASICALLY WHAT HAPPENS NOW IS THAT 911 CALLS COME TO THE NEW ALBANY PD. HOWEVER, CELL CALLS ARE RECEIVED BY EITHER DEANNA COULD BE THE COUNTY WESTERVILLE AND THEY'RE TRANSFERRED TO US. AND OBVIOUSLY MOST OF THE CALLS COME IN ON ON CELL THESE DAYS. SO IN THE NEXT SIX MONTHS OR SO, THE CITY WILL TRANSITION TO BE A PRIMARY SAP. SO WHAT HAPPENS IS, IS THAT FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAD THE THE WE CALL IT THE GREAT FIRE OF 24. IT WASN'T A GREAT FIRE. WE HAD A BATTERY BACKUP

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I DON'T KNOW THAT WE WOULD RENT IT OUT. SO IT'D BE AN ASSET TO OTHER POLICE DEPARTMENTS IN THE AREA. YEAH AS WELL. YES. WHAT'S ON THE RIGHT SIDE? CHIEF? IT'S HARD TO READ DOWN HERE THOUGH.

THE RIGHT SIDE IS THAT ADDITIONAL PARKING ALSO. THAT'S THAT'S ACTUALLY AN ENCLOSED.

THAT WOULD BE FOR THE MOBILE COMMAND VEHICLE. OH, OKAY. CHIEF, COULD YOU JUST GIVE A QUICK RECAP ON THE NUMBER OF OTHER MUNICIPALITIES IN THE AREA THAT HAVE RANGES. YEAH. SO KIND OF IT'S PRETTY COMMON IN FRANKLIN COUNTY. THE TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE, I GUESS GAHANNA IS PROBABLY THE ONE THAT'S COMING ONLINE. NEXT THEY ARE BUILDING A NEW CITY HALL, PD AND SENIOR CENTER ALL IN ONE THAT HAS A RANGE. WESTERVILLE HAS A RANGE. THEY HAD RECENTLY RENOVATED AN EXISTING BUILDING TO BUILD THEIR PD. I THINK DUBLIN, WESTERVILLE, HILLIARD, GROVE CITY. AND I DON'T HAVE THE LIST WITH ME, BUT THERE'S A NUMBER OF GRANDVIEW HEIGHTS IS BUILDING A NEW BUILDING. THEY'LL HAVE A RANGE. SO IT'S PRETTY COMMON IN LAW ENFORCEMENT, WHETHER IT BE MOST IN THE AREA OR BUILDING INDOOR RANGES. AND THEN OBVIOUSLY, LIKE NEWARK HAS AN OUTDOOR RANGE, JAKE, WOULD, YOU KNOW, WOULD YOU BE CONSIDERING ALSO DOING MORE CIVILIAN EDUCATION AND TRAINING IF YOU HAVE A BIGGER SPACE? YEAH, THIS THIS IS ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, FOR ONE OF THE THINGS WITH RAD TRAINING, WE LIMIT THE NUMBER OF RAD CLASSES ON SIZE WISE BECAUSE OF SPACE. SO THE THE AREA THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH THE TABLES AND CHAIRS THERE THAT'S LARGER THAN ANYTHING THAT THE PD CURRENTLY. SO WE WOULD BE ABLE TO OFFER A LOT MORE SPACES FOR THOSE TRAININGS. AND AND IT WOULD EXPAND TO WHETHER IT BE

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AND WE'RE TALKING THE ENTIRE DEPARTMENT AT VARIOUS DAYS OF THE WEEK, DRIVING OUT TO, YEAH, SAINT MARYSVILLE. IT DOES GIVE US THE ABILITY TO GET INTO MORE. ONE ON ONE TRAINING. SO LET'S SAY YOU HAVE AN OFFICER THAT NEEDS SOME ADDITIONAL PRACTICE IN A PARTICULAR AREA. THAT OFFICER COULD GO IN WITH THE RANGE OFFICER AND DO SOME ONE ON ONE TRAINING. THAT LIKELY IS NOT GOING TO BE AS PRACTICAL IF YOU HAVE TO DRIVE TO A DIFFERENT LOCATION. YEAH. SO I THINK WOULD YOU SAY WE ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO HAVE IT. NO. WOULD IT BE NICE TO HAVE. YES.

AND I THINK IT SETS US UP FOR WHERE WE WANT TO BE AS AN ORGANIZATION IN THE IN THE YEARS AHEAD. YEAH I AGREE. THANK YOU. WELL JUST A QUICK QUESTION ON THAT. YOU DON'T NEED TO GO BACK TO THE SLIDE IN THE PROPOSED BUILDING. I KNOW THAT'S IN THAT GRASS AREA THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE OUT THERE. ARE WE GOING TO PLAN ON MAYBE JUST TAKING THE REST OF THE SPACE THAT'S OUT THERE, OR YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE THE WHOLE SPACE FOR THIS? AND IF NOT, MAYBE SINCE WE'RE PUTTING IT THERE, MAYBE WE MAKE THAT WHOLE THING A PARKING LOT. SO WE ARE WE'VE RYAN AND AND OUR CONSULTANTS AND I HAVE TALKED EXTENSIVELY ABOUT THAT BECAUSE WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T RUN OUT OF ROOM FOR OUR EXPANSION OF OUR PUBLIC SERVICE FACILITY, AND WE WILL NEED TO EXPAND THAT AGAIN MULTIPLE TIMES IN THE FUTURE AS THE COMMUNITY GROWS. WE ALSO NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ADEQUATE ROOM FOR WATER DETENTION AND APPROPRIATE STREET SETBACKS. SO WHAT THE IN THE PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN THAT WAS CREATED BY OUR ARCHITECT, WE HAVE A DETENTION BASIN SIMILAR TO WHAT EXISTS TODAY IN FRONT OF THE PICKLEBALL COURTS. THAT WOULD BE BETWEEN THIS FACILITY AND WALNUT STREET.

OKAY. AND THEN THAT LEAVES ROOM BEHIND THAT FOR A PARALLEL BUILDING THAT WOULD BE COMPLEMENTARY TO THE EXISTING PUBLIC SERVICE FACILITY. OKAY. PARKS AND TRAILS. OKAY. STEVE'S GOING TO TALK ABOUT PARK AND TRAIL WAYFINDING SIGNAGE. THANKS, ADRIAN. SO THIS INITIATIVE REALLY STARTED BACK IN 2021 WHEN CITY COUNCIL ADOPTED THE PARKS FRAMEWORK PLAN. THAT WAS ABOUT GETTING READY TO JUMP HERE. SO PART OF THAT PLAN IS A COMPREHENSIVE

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SO IT'S NOT JUST AN ATHLETIC FACILITY. I THINK THAT'S A LOT OF ACREAGE THAT WE COULD DO OTHER THINGS FOR. THE TOTAL COMMUNITY. AGREED. AND WE'VE ACTUALLY IT'S NOT ALL UTILIZED BECAUSE YOU PUT X THERE. WE'VE ACTUALLY SHARED THAT WITH THE DISTRICT AND THEIR PLANNING TEAM, THE THE PRELIMINARY DESIGN SHOWS LEISURE TRAILS AROUND THE PERIMETER OF THE SITE THROUGH THE SITE. A ROAD CONNECTION THROUGH THE SITE, IN ADDITION TO ONE THAT WE'RE THAT'S A LITTLE BIT ASPIRATIONAL AT THIS POINT. WE HAVE TO WORK WITH, DISCOVER AND SEE IF THEY'D BE WILLING TO GRANT US EITHER THE EASEMENT ACROSS THE EXISTING DRIVEWAY OR DEDICATED TO THE CITY THERE. WE'VE TALKED TO THE ADMINISTRATION ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF MAKING THE FIELDS AVAILABLE TO THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY. SO, FOR EXAMPLE, IF THERE'S A TRACK AROUND THE PERIMETER OF A FOOTBALL OR SOCCER FIELD THAT THAT WOULD BE AVAILABLE TO THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY TO USE ANY TIME OF THE DAY OTHER THAN WHEN THE KIDS WERE USING IT. SO THERE ARE A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT WE'VE TRIED TO INCORPORATE. ALL GIVEN THE FACT THAT THE LAND, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FIELDS, TAKING UP QUITE A BIT OF SPACE, THE LAND WILL GO QUICKLY, BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT DOES FUNCTION NOT ONLY AS A SCHOOL CAMPUS FACILITY, BUT ALSO A COMMUNITY PARK. RIGHT? YEAH. SO I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF WE NEEDED TO BUDGET SOMETHING INTO NEXT YEAR FOR, YOU KNOW, FOR MPSC, FOR PLANNING IF WE WANT TO CONTINUE, BECAUSE I KNOW THEY'RE GOING TO BE ON OUR MY FEAR IS THEY'RE ON THIS HARD SCHEDULE TO GET THESE BASEBALL FIELDS BUILT, AND WE'RE GOING TO THROW THOSE ON A SITE WITHOUT CONSIDERING OUR USES AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO USE THAT, AND HOW MUCH THE DISTRICT POTENTIALLY COULD WANT TO USE. SO WE DON'T THROW IT OUT THERE, AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN LIKE, OH, SHOOT, MAYBE WE COULD HAVE FIELDS HERE. YEAH. SO I, I GUESS THAT'S YEAH. SOUNDS LIKE THAT'S WHAT ANDREW WAS TRYING TO GET AT. YEAH. IT'S JUST HOLISTICALLY PLANNING THAT SITE FOR DISTRICT AND CITY USES. YEAH. TO THE POINT OF THE CITY. YOU KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT MEETING SPACE OR FACILITY COMMUNITY CENTER. THAT'S RIGHT IN THE CENTER OF TOWN. IF WE WANT TO DO SOMETHING THERE, IT'D BE IDEAL. BUT SO I DON'T WANT IT ALL UTILIZED BY THE SCHOOL SO THAT WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DESIGN SOMETHING THAT WOULD FILL SOME OF OUR NEEDS SO WE CAN. I'LL. YEAH, I'LL SEND THE CONCEPT PLAN TO YOU. AND THEN A FOLLOW UP WITH TEACHER WITH MK6 FOLLOW UP. I THINK IF WE'RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING WITH MCCSC, WE COULD PROBABLY WORK THAT INTO THE OPERATING BUDGET. OKAY. SO WE CAN BRING THAT BACK. YEAH. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. YEAH. I THINK ONCE THAT GOES OUT BECAUSE. HEAR. NO, I'M DOING IT SLOWLY. OH, PLEASE.

WE HAVE TIME. I THINK IT WILL BE GOOD FOR YOU GUYS TO SEE THOSE SITE PLANS. I'VE GONE BACK AND FORTH AND ANY BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, THIS IS MOVING PRETTY FAST. IF YOU HAVE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE SHARED USE ASPECTS OF OF EVERYTHING. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEING IN A PARK LIKE SETTING. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT LEISURE TRAILS, WALKING PATHS. THERE'S ANYTHING SPECIFIC THAT EACH OF YOU FEEL LIKE MAKES THIS, THAT ONE IMPORTANT TO THE CITY OR MAKES THIS A CITY AMENITY. GIVING THAT TO JOE, I THINK, WILL BE HELPFUL FOR US AS TO TAKE BACK

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THE FOCUS RIGHT NOW IS TO GET THE 19 ACRES PLANNED AND UNDER CONSTRUCTION. BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT 19 ACRES IS IN THE RIGHT SPOT FOR FUTURE. AND YEAH, PUT RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE. RIGHT. BUT I'LL SEND THAT INFORMATION OUT TO YOU THIS AFTERNOON. GREAT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, CHIP, LET US IN ON WHAT THIS IS. MINE IS JUST, AGAIN, VILLAGE CENTER BEAUTIFICATION. SO THE MORE THAT WE CAN DO TO BEAUTIFY OUR VILLAGE CENTER AND THE ACCESS POINTS INTO OUR VILLAGE CENTER, I THINK THE MORE IT WILL BENEFIT OUR BUSINESSES AND OUR COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE. IT'S JUST BASICALLY MORE SOFT SCAPES. SO WE'VE DONE PLANTERS BEFORE AND WE'VE HAD SOME PLANTERS, BUT CONTINUE TO DO THAT. YOU KNOW, YOU DRIVE THROUGH A LOT OF EVEN EASTON OR WESTERVILLE OR, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF MUNICIPALITIES. THEY DO A VERY GOOD JOB AT SOFT SCAPES, AND IT JUST MAKES IT A MORE PLEASANT PLACE TO WANT TO SPEND TIME. AND IT'S GOOD FOR OUR COMMUNITY, OUR RESIDENTS, OUR BUSINESSES TO BE ABLE TO ENJOY THOSE BENEFITS. RIGHT. SO THAT'S I JUST CONTINUE TO ASK THAT WE DO CONTINUE TO THINK ABOUT BEAUTIFYING OUR VILLAGE CENTER TO MAKE IT A MORE ATTRACTIVE PLACE TO BE. SO AND WHATEVER THAT MEANS. SO YEAH.

YEAH, WHATEVER THAT MEANS IN ANY IDEAS ANYONE HAS. I KNOW THE SERVICE DEPARTMENT DOES HAVE A LINE ITEM IN THEIR OPERATING BUDGET FOR THOSE TYPE OF THINGS, AND THEY'VE ENHANCED THE BASKETS AND THE PLANTERS OVER THE YEARS. BUT DEFINITELY THEY HAVE A LINE ITEM THAT'S FOR THAT. AND WE CAN DEFINITELY TAKE A LOOK AT I'LL LOOK AT OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT MAY HAVE WON AWARDS FOR, YOU KNOW, DOING THAT TYPE OF SOFT SCAPE WITHIN THEIR COMMUNITIES AND GET IDEAS FROM WHERE OTHER COMMUNITIES HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL AT DOING THAT. I'D JUST LIKE TO SEE, YOU KNOW, THAT WE KEEP FOCUS ON THAT, THAT WE HAVE SUCH A BEAUTIFUL DOWNTOWN. AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE'S MORE THAT WE CAN DO. TO ADD ON A KIND OF RELATED NOTE, I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYONE NOTICED WE HAD TO DO WITH OKTOBERFEST GOING TO BE OVER AT ROSELAWN AND REIGNS CROSSING THIS YEAR. WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT LIGHTING BECAUSE IT GOES INTO THE EVENING AND WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO LIGHTING, EXTEND THE BISTRO LIGHTING DOWN THE PROMENADE THAT WAS OVER REIGNS CROSSING NOW. SO IT'S THE SAME PRICE TO DO IT TEMPORARILY OR PERMANENTLY. SO THE DECISION WAS MADE TO DO THAT PERMANENTLY. SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS HAVE SEEN IT, BEEN THERE AT NIGHTTIME RECENTLY, BUT THERE'S MORE BISTRO LIGHTING GOING DOWN THE PROMENADE NOW. RELATIVELY SPEAKING, IT'S A SMALL INVESTMENT COMPARED TO THE HARDSCAPES TO REALLY MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN TERMS OF TYPE OF EXPERIENCE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE WHILE YOU'RE IN OUR VILLAGE CENTER, WHETHER IT'S LIGHTING OR PLANTED MATERIAL, IT JUST MAKES A DIFFERENCE. AND THE COST TO DO THAT, COMPARED TO MORE OF A HARDSCAPE TYPE COMPONENT, IT MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE. YEAH, YEAH, WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT LINE ITEM IS, YOU KNOW, WE CAN POINT THAT OUT DURING THE OPERATING BUDGET. SO YOU CAN SEE WHERE THAT LINE ITEM IS AND GET SOME IDEAS OF WHAT ELSE COULD BE DONE. YEAH. ANOTHER THING I'D LIKE TO ADD IN, YOU KNOW, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS MAYBE MINIMAL MINIMALLY IN THE PAST IS OUR GUARDRAILS. WE HAVE A LOT OF ALUMINUM GUARDRAILS THAT LEAD INTO THE CITY. AND AGAIN THOSE AREN'T ATTRACTIVE. THEY CAN BE PAINTED BLACK. THEY COULD BE MADE TO LOOK BETTER. IT JUST ADDS AGAIN TO MORE OF THE COMPLEMENTS, THE BRAND OF THE CITY. IF WE CAN THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, SOME AREAS THAT ARE NEWER, MAYBE THE GUARDRAILS ARE PAINTED BLACK OR THEY'RE WOODEN, BUT WE STILL HAVE A LOT OF THE GALVANIZED STEEL GUARDRAILS THAT AS THEY COME INTO THE CITY, WHETHER IT'S ON GREENVILLE ROAD OR 62 OR 605, THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING. AGAIN, IT'S NOT NOT

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WE CAN WE JUST GO RIGHT INTO IT? I THINK ALL OF US HAVE SOMETHING AT 230. YEP. LET ME JUST TAKE A MINUTE TO PULL IT UP AND GET IT READY. OH MY GOD, I HOPE THAT WAS THAT'S THE LAST ONE. THAT'S THE LAST ONE. THAT WAS GREAT. AND THAT MIGHT BE THE LAST TIME WE DO THAT. YES, PLEASE. LET'S SEE. THE LEGOS WILL BE BACK NEXT. THE LEGOS. I WILL BUY LEGOS. WE'LL PUT THEM UP HERE AND TAKE THEM DOWN. ALL RIGHT. LET'S SEE IF THIS WILL WORK. ALL RIGHT. SO GET OUT YOUR PHONES. LET'S SEE IF THIS WORKS. OH, I FORGOT THAT YOU. SO YOU CAN EITHER GO TO MENTI.COM AND ENTER THAT CODE OR JUST SCAN THE QR CODE. COVID 19 PELOTON THEME WITH GREEN ARROW. I CAN'T GET IT. I'M ON SET. DID YOU HEAR? NO, I'M JUST GOING TO MENTI.COM. LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU GET THE SCREEN ON YOUR PHONE. WE DON'T PUT. I'M GOING TO GO DOWN THERE. WE DO THIS.

RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. SAID YOU SHOULD TRY TO DO THIS. MAYBE TRY THE QR CODE. YEAH. YOU JUST PUT IT. YOU CAN'T INFLUENCE. YOU CAN'T GET. THAT'S RIGHT. I CAN'T GO TRY THIS ONE. THIS ONE OVER HERE. YEAH. THIS IS LIKE, SECRET. OH, I GOT IT. I GOT IT, GOT IT. WAITING FOR PRESENTER.

IF YOU ADDED THAT IN THERE, THAT WAS JUST IF YOU WANT TO DO IT THIS IS WHAT IT'S GOING TO TALK. ORIGINAL. OKAY. NOW THAT THE PRESSURE IS ON OKAY. SO IF YOU BUILT A HOUSE WITH THREE BEDROOMS VERY NICE. VERY NICE. WHAT DO YOU ALL SEE ON YOUR PHONE WAITING FOR THESE. MINE SAYS SHOULD THESE ANNUAL PROGRAMS AND AMOUNTS BE. THAT'S WHAT IT SHOULD SAY. WAIT A MINUTE. JUST WAITING FOR OKAY OKAY. SHOULD I SAY YES ON THAT? WELL, WELL, IT'S UP TO YOU. IT SAID SHOULD THESE PROGRAMS BE FUNDED? BUT THERE'S NOTHING LISTED. YEAH, SO JUST LEAVE. I GOTTA LEAVE. NO, I GOTTA LEAVE RIGHT NOW. SAY NO. JUST. THIS IS JUST THE ANNUAL PROGRAM, OKAY? THE STUFF WE SAW. SO LET ME WALK YOU. LET ME WALK YOU THROUGH EVERYONE AT THE SAME TIME. YEAH. SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A SERIES. I'M JUST GOING TO MAKE THIS DIFFICULT. I JUST WANT A SERIES OF QUESTIONS AND YOU GUYS WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY. MOST OF THEM ARE.

YES. NO. TAYLOR AND PICKLEBALL. YOU HAVE OPTIONS. SO YOU'LL BE ABLE TO PICK A RANGE OF OPTIONS.

SO THIS FIRST ONE IS THE ANNUAL PROGRAM. SO THAT'S EVERYTHING ON THIS SHEET I'LL READ IT OUT.

IT'S THE ANNUAL STREET MAINTENANCE PAVING PROGRAM TRAFFIC CALMING SIDEWALK REPLACEMENT, TRAIL GAPS TRAIL IMPROVEMENTS AND FACILITY PARKING DRIVE MAINTENANCE. AT THE AMOUNTS WE SHOWED EARLIER. THESE ARE THE AMOUNTS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF STREET PAVEMENT HAS BEEN UPPED A LITTLE BIT THAT WE FUNDED PREVIOUSLY. SO THIS IS A YES NO QUESTION. IT LOOKS LIKE EVERYONE WENT WRONG. BEING DUMB OKAY. THERE'S NOT WORKING NOW. IT'S WORKING OKAY.

ARE YOU THE OKAY. SO WE HAVE SEVEN. ALL RIGHT. SO WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE INNER PROGRAMS AND THOSE AMOUNTS. SO THIS NEXT GROUP OF QUESTIONS ARE GOING TO BE ON THE. SO IF YOU LOOK ON THAT WALL ON THE LEFT IT'S THE PREVIOUSLY PLANNED PROJECTS.

AND THEN WE'LL GO THROUGH THE NEW PROJECTS AND WE'LL HAVE A QUESTION ON EACH ONE OF THOSE PROJECTS. ALL RIGHT. NICE TO HAVE. SO THIS NEXT ONE NOW YOU SHOULD SEE SHOULD ADAPTIVE TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT FALL OFF THE 2026 CAPITAL BUDGET. SO HOW YOU'RE DOING IT TRICKY WAY. A DOUBLE NEGATIVE JUST KEEPING YOU ON YOUR TOES I'M GOING TO GIVE THE CODE AGAIN I'M SO SORRY I'M GOING TO. CHRIS CAN COME IN HELP YOU OUT WITH THAT. SHE'S BEING MENTORED. THIS IS

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WHAT'S ONE THING? ONE VOTE EACH WAY? WE'RE NOT TALKING. NO. WE'LL GET ONE VOTE. ONE VOTE. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S GOING TO WORK. IT'S NOT WORKING FOR YOU. OKAY. YES. YOU CAN WRITE DOWN YOUR VOTES AND WE CAN TAKE THEM OUT OF MY OTHER. OH, YEAH. IT WORKED, I GOT IT. I MEAN, IT DOESN'T LIKE. ALL RIGHT. YES. SO WE HAVE SEVEN TO 6 TO 1 TO FALL OFF. OKAY. NEXT QUESTION.

SHOULD KITZMILLER WETLAND PARK DESIGN BE ON THE 2026 CAPITAL BUDGET? 345. ALL RIGHT. CLOSE ONE. ALL RIGHT. THERE WE GO. I GUESS IN THE VEIN, YOU DON'T HAVE TO IF YOU IF YOU WANT TO SHARE A REASON YOU'RE VOTING ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, YOU CAN. IF NOT, WE'LL JUST THIS IS JUST DATA. WE'LL TAKE IT AND INCORPORATE IT INTO THE BUDGET. I'LL JUST SHARE. I ACTUALLY WOULD RATHER PUSH IT ONE YEAR OUT JUST TILL WE GET THE 62 MASTER PLAN THING DONE. SO THAT WAS THE ONLY REASON THAT I SAID NO. IF WE DO GO FORWARD WITH IT, THEN I THINK IT WOULD MAKE SENSE FOR NEXT YEAR. BUT TO TIE IT IN WITH THAT PLAN IS WHY I DID THAT. OKAY, SAME. I'M THE SAME WAY. FIVE POINT INTERSECTION. YEAH. LET'S FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

YEAH. AND I'M AMBITIOUS AND I THINK WE CAN GET IT ALL DONE. AND I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO KEEP IN THERE. SO I SAID, YEAH, I. ALL RIGHT. YEAH. YEAH THAT IS REALLY GREAT.

GREAT INPUT FOR US OKAY. NEXT QUESTION IS OKAY. THIS IS WHERE WE HAVE OUR FIRST ONE. WHAT DO WE HAVE OPTIONS OKAY. SO WHICH TAYLOR FARM PROJECT SHOULD BE IN THE 2026 CAPITAL BUDGET. WE HAVE FARMHOUSE EXTERIOR ONLY. WE HAVE FARMHOUSE INTERIOR AND EXTERIOR ONLY. WE HAVE BARN, BARN, PAVILION. IT SAYS BARN. WE HAVE FARMHOUSE EXTERIOR AND BARN. AND WE HAVE LET'S DO IT ALL. WE DON'T HAVE AN OPTION, CASEY, JUST FOR THE BIRD WATCHING PAVILION. BUT WE'LL MAKE A NOTE OF THAT AND MAKE SURE WE INCORPORATE THAT. THREE VOTES. FIVE VOTES. SEVEN VOTES.

YES. ALL RIGHT. OH, WE GOT ONE. WE GOT SIX. MAYBE WAITING FOR THE SEVENTH. OKAY. WHO HASN'T VOTED? IT'S ME. OKAY. PUSH THAT BUTTON. ALRIGHT. I'M TRYING TO ACTUALLY READ WHAT IT SAYS.

ALRIGHT. SO WE'RE LOOKING, WE GOT ALRIGHT, WE'VE GOT FARMHOUSE EXTERIOR AT 43 FOR 43%. BOTH INTERIOR, EXTERIOR, EXTERIOR AND BARN AND LIT. OH THE REST ALL ARE AT 14%. ALL RIGHT, WELL, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU DECIDE TO FIGURE THAT OUT. LET'S COME BACK TO YOU. I MEAN, THAT'S AGAIN, THIS IS GOOD INPUT. WE'LL TAKE IT BACK DOWN THERE IN THE RIGHT CORNER.

LET'S DO IT. ALL RIGHT. NEXT ONE SHOULD PUBLIC STORAGE PUBLIC SERVICE STORAGE FACILITY BE ON THE 2026 CAPITAL BUDGET. THIS IS THE SEPARATE BUILDING ON THE BILHEIMER BARN SITE.

LOOKING FIVE. OKAY, RYAN OVER THERE. HE'S SMILING. HE DIDN'T EVEN WEAR A TIE TODAY. I KNOW HE'S GETTING EVERYTHING. ALL RIGHT, BREAK A SWEAT FOR THAT. WE MADE IT TO SEVEN. OKAY. NEXT ONE SHOULD PUBLIC SERVICE, INTERIOR SPACE PLANNING AND BUILD OUT BE ON THE 2026 CAPITAL BUDGET. THAT WAS THE 300. OKAY, RYAN, I THINK YOU COULD JUST LEAVE. YOUR COMPUTER AND WALK OUT. BECAUSE YOU GOT ONE WAITING ON ONE MORE. THERE WE GO. ALL RIGHT. 7 TO 0 ON THAT. OKAY, HERE'S OUR OTHER SECOND ONE WITH OPTIONS. LET ME OKAY. AGAIN THIS WAS LIKE A PROBABILITY QUESTION. BUT WE TRIED TO COME UP WITH EVERY POSSIBLE OPTION IF WE DIDN'T JUST LET US KNOW. BUT WE HAVE OPTION ONE WHICH IS THE ROOF ONLY STRUCTURE. WE HAVE OPTION TWO WHICH IS THE EIGHT QUART ENCLOSURE, THE FULL BUILDING. OPTION THREE WE HAVE THE BLEACHER SHADE STRUCTURES. OPTION FOUR WE HAVE A STANDALONE RESTROOM FACILITY.

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ALRIGHT, SO RESTROOM AND SHADE. THAT'S BLEACHER SHADE, THAT'S OPTION THREE AND FOUR. BLEACHER SHADE AND RESTROOM ONE AND FOUR. THAT'S THAT IS THE END OF. SO NOW WE'RE MOVING ON TO THE THREE NEW PROJECTS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT. THIS IS SHOULD THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TRAINING FACILITY BE IN THE BUDGET. MA'AM. THAT WAS SIX. AND WE GOT SEVEN. OKAY. NEXT ONE IS ABOUT WAYFINDING PARKS, TRAILS DESIGN BE IN THE CAPITAL BUDGET. THIS WAS THE 200,000 FOR STARTING OUR PARK. TRAIL SIGNAGE STARTING OUT AT TAYLOR FARMS. ALL RIGHT. GOT SEVEN. AND THEN THE FINAL QUESTION HERE IS SHOULD THE 605 STREETSCAPE SECTION WINDSOR TO HAMLET CONCEPT DESIGN BE IN THE CAPITAL BUDGET? OR. THE SERVICE DEPARTMENT? YEAH. GOT SIX. JUST GIVE IT A MINUTE. THAT'S THE CORRIDOR. THAT'S THE CORE OF WHAT WE'RE DOING. ALL RIGHT.

THIS SHOULD GIVE US A SUMMARY, I THINK. OR NOT. TOP PARTICIPANTS. WHO'S THE TOP PARTICIPANT? WHAT DID THEY GET A PRIZE? WELL, NO, I DON'T KNOW. WE'LL TELL YOU LATER. VIEW THE RESULTS. WELL, WE KIND OF WENT THROUGH THEM ALREADY. THOUGHT THIS WOULD GIVE US A SUMMARY.

NO RESULTS YET. OKAY, WELL, YOU SAW THEM AS WE WENT THROUGH THEM. OKAY. WHAT'S THAT? WE CAN SIGN OUT. YOU CAN SIGN OUT. OKAY. WE'LL SUMMARIZE THE RESULTS FOR YOU. AND THEN WE CAN WE'LL INCORPORATE EVERYTHING INTO THE CAPITAL BUDGET. THERE'LL BE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY AS WE GO THROUGH THE, THE THE OVERALL BUDGET TO FINE TUNE ANYTHING THAT YOU WANT TO POINT TO. YES, ABSOLUTELY. THAT'S WHAT THIS DAY IS ABOUT AND KIND OF HELPS US INFORM THE BUDGET. SOME THINGS WILL COME AT YOU AT THE CAPITAL OR AT THE OPERATING BUDGET. BUT THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, YOUR PARTICIPATION AND YOUR WILLINGNESS TO POP SOME BALLOONS. YEAH, THANKS FOR KEEPING US ON SCHEDULE. ALL RIGHT. I THOUGHT IT WAS WELL DONE AND WELL ORGANIZED. THANK YOU. VERY GOOD JOB. APPRECIATE THAT. IS THAT. WRAP UP THE AGENDA AND ADJOURN. OKAY. NO. OUR FEARLESS LEADER. THAT'S IT. DONE. ALMOST. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER BUSINESS FOR OUR CONSIDERATION. HEARING NONE. I MOVE THAT WE ADJOURN. SECOND,

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