Oct 07, 2025 City Council

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

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WHENEVER YOU'RE READY. WELL, GOOD EVENING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, AND WELCOME TO THE NEW ALBANY CITY COUNCIL MEETING FOR TUESDAY, OCTOBER 7TH. I WOULD INVITE EVERYONE TO PLEASE STAND, IF ABLE AND RECITE OUR NATIONAL PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. CLERK. MASON. THE ROLL, PLEASE. AND IF COUNCIL WILL TURN ON THEIR MICROPHONES. MAYOR SPALDING HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER BRESKE HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER. DEREK HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER. FELLOWS HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER. KISS HERE.

COUNCIL MEMBER. SHULL HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER. WILTROUT HERE. I HAVE SEVEN PRESENT FOR THE

[4. ACTION ON MINUTES]

[6. HEARING OF VISITORS]

IT'S WOVEN QUIETLY INTO EVERYDAY LIFE. PEOPLE GREET YOU ON TRAILS, TEACHERS KNOW YOUR KIDS BY NAME, AND NEIGHBORS SHOW UP FOR EACH OTHER. IT IS DIFFICULT TO FIND A PRECISE NUMBER, BUT IT IS A PLAUSIBLE ESTIMATE THAT ABOUT 20 TO 40,000 HINDUS LIVE IN THE GREAT

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IT IS IN THE QUIET BELIEF THAT KINDNESS RETURNS TO US IN THE PHILOSOPHY OF KARMA, AND IN GROWING CARE FOR OUR BODIES AND EVERYONE ON THE PLANET, REFLECTING AHIMSA, THE THE PRINCIPLE OF NON-HARM OR NONVIOLENCE. HINDUISM TEACHES THAT TRUTH CAN HAVE MANY FORMS. AS THE RIGVEDA SAYS, VIPRA BAHUDA, WHICH MEANS TRUTH IS ONE, BUT THE WISE CALL IT BY MANY NAMES. THAT SPIRIT REMINDS US THAT THERE ARE MANY PATHS TO GOODNESS, AND EVERY FAITH ADDS SOMETHING ESSENTIAL TO THE BALANCE OF OUR SHARED WORLD COMPASSION, GRATITUDE, FORGIVENESS, SERVICE, EVEN THE CONCEPT OF ZERO, WITHOUT WHICH ZERO? YES, AS A NUMBER WITHOUT WHICH IT IS HARD TO IMAGINE MODERN MATH OR SCIENCE. IT WAS FIRST DESCRIBED BY HINDU MATHEMATICIAN BRAHMAGUPTA BY RECOGNIZING OCTOBER AS HINDU HERITAGE MONTH. THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY IS NOT JUST HONORING ONE FAITH, IT IS CELEBRATING THE TIMELESS IDEA THAT EVERY HERITAGE ADDS SOMETHING MEANINGFUL TO THE WAY WE LIVE, LEARN, GROW TOGETHER AS A COMMUNITY. IT'S ESPECIALLY FITTING THAT OCTOBER IS RECOGNIZING RECOGNIZED AS HINDU HERITAGE MONTH, A TIME WHEN MANY OF US CELEBRATE NAVRATRI, THE SARA AND DIWALI FESTIVALS THAT SYMBOLIZE THE TRIUMPH OF LIGHT OVER DARKNESS AND GOOD OVER EVIL. OUR ANNUAL DIWALI CELEBRATION AT HINSON AMPHITHEATER CAPTURES THIS BEAUTIFULLY. FAMILIES FROM EVERY BACKGROUND COMING TOGETHER TO SHARE FOOD, DANCE AND JOY UNDER ONE SKY. THE CELEBRATION AND THIS PROCLAMATION TONIGHT REMINDS US THAT NEW ALBANY DOESN'T JUST WELCOME DIFFERENCE, IT CHERISHES IT. AND IN TODAY'S WORLD, WHEN DIFFERENCES CAN SOMETIMES BE MISUNDERSTOOD OR TENSIONS QUIETLY FELL, RECOGNITIONS LIKE THIS BECOME EVEN MORE MEANINGFUL. THEY REASSURE US, ESPECIALLY OUR CHILDREN, THAT THEIR CULTURE BELONGS AND THEY CAN BE FULLY AMERICAN AND PROUDLY HINDU FOR OUR YOUTH. THIS RECOGNITION IS A REMINDER THAT THEIR HERITAGE IS A SOURCE OF STRENGTH AND PRIDE. SO, ON BEHALF OF ALL HINDU FAMILIES IN NEW ALBANY, THANK YOU FOR RECOGNIZING OUR CONTRIBUTIONS AND SHARING IN OUR LIGHT, AND FOR MAKING THIS COMMUNITY A TRUE REFLECTION OF UNITY AND BELONGING. FINALLY, I WANT TO THANK MAYOR, THE CITY COUNCIL, AND ALSO EXTEND MY HEARTFELT GRATITUDE TO THE CITY STAFF JENNIFER MASON, ABBY BROOKS, ADRIAN JOLLY FOR THEIR PARTNERSHIP AND SUPPORT, AND ALSO RASHIDA AND ROB WHO ARE NOT HERE WITH US TODAY, BUT IN SPIRIT THEY ARE WHO ACTUALLY SPEARHEADED THIS PROCLAMATION WITH YOU. MAYOR. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO INVITE SOME OF THE YOUTH FROM THE HINDU COMMUNITY TO TALK. SO, KRISH. HELLO EVERYONE. MY NAME IS CHRIS AND I'M A SENIOR AT COLUMBUS ACADEMY AND MY FAMILY AND I HAVE BEEN PROUD TO CALL NEW ALBANY OUR HOME SINCE 2021. AND I'M GRATEFUL TO BE HERE TONIGHT. AND AS WE RECOGNIZE HINDU HERITAGE MONTH, GROWING UP, A HINDU IN NEW ALBANY HAS BEEN A MIX OF CARING ON TRADITIONS AND FIGURING OUT WHAT THEY MEAN FOR MY GENERATION. I MAY NOT PRACTICE EXACTLY LIKE MY PARENTS OR GRANDPARENTS, BUT THE VALUES ARE STILL HERE, JUST LIVED OUT IN DIFFERENT WAYS. WHEN WE GIVE OUR TIME WITHOUT EXPECTING ANYTHING BACK, THAT'S SAVE OR SERVICE. WHEN WE DONATE, SHARE OR HELP SOMEONE IN NEED, THAT'S DAWN OR GIVING. WHEN WE CHOOSE KINDNESS IN WHAT WE DO, THAT'S AHIMSA OR NONVIOLENCE. AND WHEN WE STAY HONEST, EVEN WHEN IT'S UNCOMFORTABLE, THAT'S SATYA TRUTH. THESE AREN'T JUST HINDU VALUES, THOUGH. THEY'RE HUMAN VALUES. I SEE THEM IN SCHOOL HALLWAYS, IN GROUP PROJECTS, ON SPORTS TEAMS AND AROUND THE DINNER TABLE. AND THAT'S WHY IT MATTERS A CITY. THAT'S WHY IT MATTERS. LIKE A CITY LIKE NEW ALBANY TAKES THE TIME TO RECOGNIZE HINDU HERITAGE MONTH.

IT TELLS KIDS LIKE ME THAT OUR CULTURE DOESN'T BELONG, DOESN'T BELONG BEHIND CLOSED DOORS. IT BELONGS OUT IN THE OPEN WHERE IT CAN BE SHARED, CELEBRATED JUST LIKE CHRISTMAS OR THANKSGIVING. SO THANK YOU TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR RECOGNIZING THIS MONTH. IT

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THANK YOU. THANKS, CHRIS. HELLO, MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND EVERYONE HERE TONIGHT. MY NAME IS THUMMA AND I'M AN EIGHTH GRADE. I'M REALLY EXCITED TO BE HERE FOR HINDU HERITAGE MONTH PROCLAMATION. MY FAMILY MOVED TO NEW ALBANY IN 2019 AND IT'S BEEN HOME EVER SINCE. I'M A CATHOLIC, BUT I ALSO PROUDLY FOLLOW HINDU TRADITIONS, WHICH MEANS I GET CHRISTMAS, EASTER, DIWALI AND DUSSEHRA. IT'S TRULY THE BEST OF BOTH WORLDS. WHEN I WAS YOUNGER, I REMEMBER BEING A LITTLE CONFUSED. I ONCE ASKED MY MOM, ARE WE CATHOLIC OR HINDU? SHE SMILED AND SAID, YOU DON'T HAVE TO CHOOSE. BOTH TEACH US TO LOVE AND TO BE KIND. THAT ANSWER HAS STAYED WITH ME EVER SINCE. OVER TIME, I REALIZED THAT LIGHTING A CANDLE ON EASTER EVE AND LIGHTING A DIYA ON DIWALI MEAN THE SAME THING, SPREADING LIGHT AND HOPE. DIFFERENT TRADITIONS, SAME MESSAGE. I'M SURE THERE ARE MANY PEOPLE LIKE ME, PEOPLE WHO FOLLOW ONE FAITH BUT ALSO CELEBRATE OTHERS. AND I THINK THAT'S REALLY EMPOWERING BECAUSE IT HELPS US SEE THE GOOD IN EVERY TRADITION. IT REMINDS US THAT KINDNESS, RESPECT AND GRATITUDE CONNECTS US ALL. I GREW UP CELEBRATING DIWALI WITH MY FAMILY, LIGHTING DIAZ, SHARING SWEETS, AND LISTENING TO STORIES ABOUT LIGHT AND KNOWLEDGE. MANY OF MY FRIENDS AND I GREW UP EXPLAINING DIWALI AS KIND OF LIKE OUR VERSION OF CHRISTMAS, WHERE WE LIGHT UP OUR HOUSES, SHARE GIFTS, AND MEET WITH FRIENDS AND FAMILY. BUT NOW, INSTEAD OF EXPLAINING, WE'RE CELEBRATING TOGETHER AS A COMMUNITY AT HINTON AMPHITHEATER, AND I CAN'T THANK OUR CITY COUNCIL ENOUGH FOR THAT. RECOGNIZING HINDU HERITAGE MONTH TELLS EVERY STUDENT LIKE ME, SOMEONE WHO IS CATHOLIC BY FAITH BUT HAS ALSO GROWN UP FOLLOWING SOME HINDU TRADITIONS AS WELL, THAT WE DON'T JUST FIT INTO ONE BOX TO BE OURSELVES. SO THANK YOU TO THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY FOR REMINDING US THAT BEING PROUD OF WHERE WE COME FROM AND CURIOUS ABOUT EACH OTHER, IS WHAT MAKES NEW ALBANY SO SPECIAL, AND I HOPE MORE CITIES TAKE INSPIRATION FROM NEW ALBANY, MAKING EVERYONE FEEL PROUD OF WHO THEY ARE. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? MISS MAJA? THANK YOU, MAYOR SPALDING AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL FOR RECOGNIZING OCTOBER AS HINDU HERITAGE MONTH. THIS PROCLAMATION IS NOT ONLY AN ACKNOWLEDGMENT OF THE HINDU COMMUNITY'S PRESENCE IN NEW ALBANY, BUT ALSO A CELEBRATION OF THE TIMELESS VALUES THAT HINDUISM HAS OFFERED TO HUMANITY. HINDU HERITAGE IS ROOTED IN THE VALUES AND THE IDEA THAT THE WHOLE WORLD IS ONE FAMILY. VASUDHAIVA KUTUMBAKAM. IT TEACHES US THAT DIVINITY EXISTS IN EVERY BEING, AND THAT OUR HIGHEST DUTY IS TO LIVE IN HARMONY WITH EACH OTHER AND WITH NATURE. THESE PRINCIPLES HAVE GUIDED HINDUS FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS, AND THEY CONTINUE TO INSPIRE HOW WE LIVE, SERVE AND CONTRIBUTE IN OUR COMMUNITIES. OCTOBER HOLDS SPECIAL MEANING FOR HINDUS BECAUSE IT BRINGS MANY OF THE MOST BELOVED FESTIVALS. WE BEGIN WITH NAVRATRI, NINE NIGHTS HONORING THE DIVINE MOTHER IN HER MANY FORMS, SYMBOLIZING STRENGTH, WISDOM AND COMPASSION, FOLLOWED BY DUSHERA, WHICH CELEBRATES THE VICTORY OF GOOD OVER EVIL. AND SOON AFTER. AND I HEARD A LOT OF PEOPLE TALK ABOUT THIS TODAY, ABOUT DIWALI, THE FESTIVAL OF LIGHTS, A TIME TO CELEBRATE THE VICTORY OF GOODNESS AND TRUTH, AND TO REMIND OURSELVES THAT THE LIGHT WITHIN US MUST ALWAYS SHINE BRIGHTER THAN THE CHALLENGES AROUND US. EACH OF THESE FESTIVALS REMIND US TO RENEW OURSELVES, TO TELL TRUTH, LOVE AND GOODNESS GUIDE OUR LIVES BY RECOGNIZING OCTOBER AS HINDU HERITAGE MONTH, THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY AFFIRMS THE UNIVERSAL IDEALS OF PEACE, HARMONY, AND UNITY THAT ENRICH THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY. ON BEHALF OF THE HINDU COMMUNITY, I THANK YOU FOR THIS RECOGNITION, FOR HONORING THE SPIRIT OF VASUDHAIVA KUTUMBAKAM, WHICH

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SO WE PROVIDE A PLATFORM FOR WOMEN OF INDIAN ORIGIN OF ALL RELIGIONS AND OF COURSE, HINDU.

AS I SAID, BEING THE PREDOMINANTLY MAIN RELIGION. WE HAVE A LOT OF HINDU WOMEN. WE COME TOGETHER ON THIS PLATFORM. WE SHARE OUR IDEAS, SHARE, CARE AND CONNECT. THAT'S OUR MOTTO AND WE SHARE THE HARDSHIPS OR MAYBE OUR SUCCESS OR ANYTHING AND WE PROVIDE IT. YOU KNOW, WE TRY TO PROVIDE SERVICES TO UNDERPRIVILEGED WOMEN HERE AND IN INDIA. SO WE HAD SOME WOMEN WHO COULDN'T SPEAK ENGLISH, SO WE OFFERED FREE ENGLISH LESSONS TO THEM SO THEY COULD BE MARKETABLE AND GO AND, YOU KNOW, GET A JOB. WE ALSO HELPED INDIAN. THERE WAS A STUDENT IN OSU WHO COULDN'T. HER DAD LOST THE JOB, SO WE TRIED TO BRIDGE THE GAP AND COVER HER COLLEGE FEES. SO THESE ARE SOME OF THE EXAMPLES. WE SERVE WOMEN HERE AND BACK HOME IN INDIA ALSO.

YOU KNOW WE DO SERVE. SO I JUST WANTED TO PUT A PITCH. SO PLEASE CHECK US OUT IWC. AND WE DO ORGANIZE WORKSHOPS. SO WE'LL BE SENDING YOU INVITES. AND WE REALLY THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TO SUPPORT US. THANKS A LOT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WELL, AGAIN ON BEHALF OF COUNCIL, LET ME JUST SAY THANK YOU FOR ALL OF YOU COMING TONIGHT TO SHARE SOME OF THE KEY ELEMENTS OF YOUR CULTURE. THESE ARE CERTAINLY IDEALS THAT WE CAN ALL FIND INSPIRATION FROM. AND I KNOW ALL OF US LOOK FORWARD TO CELEBRATING THE VOLLEY WITH YOU ON OCTOBER 18TH AT THE AMPHITHEATER. I'LL JUST PRAY FOR GOOD WEATHER. BUT IS THERE ANYONE ELSE FROM THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE GROUP TONIGHT REGARDING THIS PROCLAMATION? IF NOT, WE'LL JUST TRY TO, AS BEST WE CAN, GATHER FOR A LITTLE PHOTOGRAPH OR SAM CAN HELP US. THAT'D BE GREAT. YEAH, COME ON UP. I THINK WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO WHEEL OUT THE PODIUM AND GIVE YOU SOME ROOM. LET ME MOVE THIS OUT. I THINK THE MORE PEOPLE, THE BETTER. FOR YOU. ALL RIGHT.

WE DO GET A LOT OF PEOPLE. I HAVE THE EXTRA WIDE LENS. GOOD. HOW ARE YOU? YOU DON'T HAVE TO HIDE. YOU WAITING FOR ME? A FAMILIAR FACE. HORIZONTAL. ALL RIGHT, YOU GUYS, STAND UP. ALL RIGHT. YOU CAN'T SEE ME. I NEED TO STAND ON MY CHAIR. YEAH. BACK HERE. WANT ME TO STAND ON

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YES. DID I SAY YEAH? DID I SEE ALSO DRIVING A JEEP THE OTHER DAY? YEAH. DID HE HAVE IT OUT? FOR 75? YEAH, I SAW HIM GOING DOWN THE ROAD. I LIKE THE SWEATER. THANK YOU. THANKS FOR COMING. THIS CAME IN A BOX. IN A BOX? WHICH BOX DO YOU USE? I. ALL RIGHT. IF FOLKS WANT TO MOVE AROUND A LITTLE BIT, GET COMFORTABLE. THAT'S PERFECTLY ACCEPTABLE. LOGAN, COME ON IN.

WE ARE ALSO STILL UNDER HEARING OF VISITORS. SO BEFORE I GET TO THE HEARING, VISITORS THAT HAVE FILLED OUT CARDS, LET ME JUST ASK IF THERE'S ANYONE ELSE ASIDE FROM MR. AND JILL SEDLOCK THAT WOULD LIKE TO TALK TO COUNSEL REGARDING A MATTER NOT ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT. ALL RIGHT. SEEING NO TAKERS, THEN WE'LL GO TO THE HEARING OF VISITORS THAT FILLED OUT SPEAKER CARDS. MIKE. YOU'RE UP. YEAH. STILL A HARD ACT TO FOLLOW. YEAH. GOOD EVENING, SIR.

HOW ARE YOU? GOOD, GOOD. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS MIKE. I LIVE AT 6400 EVANS ROAD. JUST YOU DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT'S AT? IT'S EAST OF 62, JUST OFF OF CENTRAL COLLEGE. NOT REALLY A COMPLAINT, BUT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THERE'S SOME THINGS YOU GUYS DIDN'T KNOW. SINCE YOU'RE ALL PROBLEM SOLVERS. I'VE TALKED TO SEVERAL FOLKS. JOSEPH TALKED, AND I BELIEVE I'VE TALKED TO YOU ABOUT YOUR DEPARTMENT TO CHIEF. SO A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE THINGS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ARE LIFE, HEALTH, SAFETY ISSUES. EVER SINCE I GOT RAN OFF THE ROAD BY A 40 TON DUMP TRUCK ON MY OWN ROAD OFF OF CENTRAL COLLEGE, I'VE KIND OF BEEN VERY CONCERNED WITH THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT'S BEEN POISED ON THE OLD COUNTRY ROAD, WHICH NOW REALLY DOESN'T EXIST AS OTHER THAN IT'S BASICALLY TURNED INTO RUBBLE. SO THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF WORK THAT'S GOING TO BE NEEDED OUT THAT WAY. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PLANS ARE IF THAT'S GOING TO BE A CENTRAL TRUNK ROAD TO THE TRUCK ROUTE. I DON'T KNOW. IT'S NOT CAPABLE OF HANDLING 18 WHEELERS, ALTHOUGH I WAS ON MY WAY OVER HERE AND SAW ANOTHER ONE DAMN NEAR JACKKNIFE, TURNING OFF THE 62 TO FIND HIS WAY BACK TO SMITH'S MILL. SO THEY THEY THEY WERE HEADED NORTH TOWARDS JOHNSTOWN AND TRYING TO MAKE A RIGHT TURN ONTO CENTRAL COLLEGE AND THEN CUT DOWN KITZMILLER AND THEY RUN OVER THE BERM AND WHATEVER SIGNS WERE PUT UP THERE BEFORE WERE GONE. AND THEY KEEP, YOU KNOW, REPLACING THE SIGNS. NO LEFT TURN, YOU KNOW, STOP SIGNS AND EVERYTHING ELSE. BUT I HAD ONE THIS SUMMER THAT WAS JACKKNIFE LITERALLY ACROSS CENTRAL COLLEGE INTO THE BERM OVER AT TIDEWATER. SO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S OBVIOUSLY SOME ISSUES GOING ON WITH BEACH ROAD RIGHT NOW. AND YOU KNOW, IN THE FUTURE, I KNOW FROM DISCUSSIONS THAT YOU CAN'T SAY NO TRUCK ROUTE, BUT UNLESS YOU WANTED A TRUCK ROUTE, YOU HAVE TO DESIGNATE SOME WAY, SOMEHOW INSTRUCTIONS FOR FOLKS OTHER THAN THEIR GPS, WHICH IS GOING TO TAKE THEM ANY OLD PATH THAT THEY COULD. SO BESIDES THE ISSUES DOWN THERE, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ACCIDENT INFORMATION AVAILABLE. IT LOOKS LIKE A FAIRLY EXTREME, DANGEROUS INTERSECTION WITH KITZMILLER, CENTRAL COLLEGE AND 62. IN THE MORNINGS, PEOPLE GET IMPATIENT AND THEY RUN RED LIGHTS THERE

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HOW IT TURNS ORANGE. MIKE, I NEED YOU TO MAKE SURE I GET YOU ON THE RECORD. YEAH, WELL, LET'S TALK TO THE POLICE CHIEF. YEAH. HOW? HOW? IT TURNS ORANGE, AND THEN THEY GO. ANYHOW, NEXT THING YOU KNOW, YOU'RE OUT IN THE INTERSECTION AND THEY'RE GOING TO HIT YOU. THE TRAFFIC IN THE MORNING. I CAN'T EVEN PULL AND MAKE A LEFT HAND TURN OUT OF EVANS ROAD. GOING WEST ON CENTRAL COLLEGE TO MAKE ANOTHER TURN ONTO 62 TO GO DOWN THE FREEWAY. MY OFFICE IS IN, NOT NEW ALBANY, BUT UPPER ARLINGTON, SO I MAKE THE TREK IN THE MORNINGS. IS THAT EVERY DAY? AND FOR HOW LONG HAS THAT BEEN OCCURRING WHERE YOU, IF YOU LEAVE FOR WORK? EASTBOUND TRAFFIC ON CENTRAL COLLEGE EAST OF. WELL, THIS IS WESTBOUND IN THE MORNING WHEN I LEAVE. OKAY.

SO I'M, I'M TURNING OUT OF EVANS ROAD, MAKING A LEFT ONTO CENTRAL COLLEGE. AND THE TRAFFIC THAT'S HEADING EASTBOUND WILL NOT LET ME OUT. YES. YOU NEED A LIGHT THERE.

YEAH, I MEAN, EVANS ROAD. YOU'RE GOING TO NEED A LIGHT. IT'S CRAZY. IT'S HEADED TOWARDS BEACH ROAD AND YOU CAN'T GET OUT BECAUSE YOU CAN'T GET OUT. AND THEN IN THE EVENING, THE TRAFFIC IS BACKED UP PAST TIDEWATER AND THEY'VE PUT SIGNS UP DO NOT BLOCK INTERSECTION, BUT THOSE ARE IGNORED. AND THE SAME THING I CAN'T GET OUT. SOMETIMES IN THE EVENING TO MAKE A LEFT TURN AGAIN VERSUS A TRAFFIC COMING FROM THE EAST, HEADING WEST TO GO HOME. SO THE CONSTRUCTION WORKERS WORK FROM 630 OR 7 UNTIL 3 OR 4. AND THEN THE PROBLEM IS, IS THAT WE ALWAYS HAD NO EXIT FOR ABERCROMBIE OUT OF THAT CUT THERE. IT COMPOUNDS IT AND THEY'RE RUNNING OVER THE DOUBLE YELLOW LINE LINING BACK. THERE'S ONLY ROOM FOR THREE CARS TO MAKE A LEFT TURN, AND THEY'LL BACK THAT THING ALL THE WAY DOWN THE STREET TO MAKE A LEFT. AND YOU CAN'T EVEN GO STRAIGHT. SO THERE'S THAT ISSUE EXISTS. I WOULD ASSUME THAT YOU GUYS ARE WELL AWARE OF ALL THIS. YOU DON'T NEED ME OR ANYBODY ELSE TO TELL YOU THAT IT'S HORRIBLE DOWN THERE. I'VE TALKED TO SEVERAL PEOPLE IN TIDEWATER, AND A COUPLE OF THEM WANTED TO COME DOWN AND EXPRESS THEIR CONCERNS, AND I SAID, WELL, I'LL BRING YOU BACK THE NEWS AS FAR AS WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO AND HOW THEY'RE GOING TO DO IT. BUT I WOULD IMAGINE WITH 62 INVOLVED, YOU GOT TO HAVE SOME CONTACT WITH ODOT. I DON'T KNOW, BUT, YOU KNOW, IS THERE INFORMATION ON ACCIDENTS AT THAT INTERSECTION. HAS THERE DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING, CHIEF? I MEAN, WE CAN A LOT OF ACCIDENTS AT THAT INTERSECTION. YEAH, WE CAN CERTAINLY GATHER THAT THAT INTERSECTION IS BASICALLY, FOR THE MOST PART, MOST INTERSECTIONS NOT IN NEW ALBANY. SO THE APPROACH FROM THE SOUTH AND TO THE EAST AND AND KITZMILLER ARE BUT THAT INTERSECTION ITSELF, WE CAN PROBABLY TAKE OUR DATA FROM THAT AREA AND THE COUNTIES AND PROBABLY COME UP WITH SOME NUMBERS. YEAH. I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU GOT THE INFORMATION. YEAH.

SO, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER, SOMEBODY'S GOING TO GET HURT AT THAT INTERSECTION WITH RUNNING THE RED LIGHTS, THE TRAFFIC AND JUST THE PILE UP THAT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE CAN JUST SAY, TELL ABERCROMBIE TO GO OUT TO NORMAL EXIT. AND IT'S JUST COMPOUNDING THIS STUFF FROM THE EAST, ESPECIALLY SINCE BEACH ROAD IS BOBBLED. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE PUTTING IN OUT THERE.

SEWER LINES I HAVE NO CLUE. I HAVEN'T SURVEYED THE STUFF, BUT IF YOU KNOW ANYTHING, LET ME KNOW. I CAN TAKE IT BACK TO THE GROUP. THEY WANTED TO HAVE A SPECIALIZED MEETING AND YOU KNOW, I TOLD THEM, I SAID, WE CAN RENT SOME SPACE AT ONE OF THE HOTELS AND GET TOGETHER.

BUT I SAID, YOU KNOW, MAYBE CITY COUNCIL CAN SHED SOME LIGHT ON THE PROBLEM AND MOVE FORWARD. BUT LIKE I SAID, THERE'S NOTHING LEFT OF THAT ROAD. AND, YOU KNOW, I WOULD ASSUME THAT THAT'S A CITY ROAD THROUGH THERE, CENTRAL COLLEGE. SO IS THERE PLANS TO WIDEN IT, PAVE IT, YOU KNOW, THAT KIND OF STUFF? WELL, WE'VE CERTAINLY HEARD SOME COMMENTS FROM OTHER MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY THAT LIVE IN THAT AREA. CONCERNS ABOUT THE TRAFFIC. YOU KNOW, THE BEACH ROAD UTILITY INSTALLATION IS BEEN VERY DISRUPTIVE FOR A LOT OF AREAS.

IT SEEMS AS THAT WORK STARTED TO MOVE FURTHER NORTH, IT HAD A BIGGER IMPACT ON CENTRAL COLLEGE, THE EPCON FACILITY GOING IN THERE IS OBVIOUSLY BRINGING A LOT OF CONSTRUCTION

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WELL THANK YOU, MIKE. GOOD TO SEE YOU. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE YOUR TIME EVERYBODY. HAVE A GREAT EVENING. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. OUR SECOND SPEAKER IS JOE SEDLAK. AND JOE, I BELIEVE YOU HAD A POWERPOINT PRESENTATION THAT WAS SENT TO THE CLERK. STOP THE POWERPOINT PRESENTATION. THAT'S WHY WE HAVE A SEAT OF MY PANTS. AS LONG AS I CAN CLICK BACK AND FORTH THROUGH THERE, CAN I CLICK BACK AND FORTH FOR THE DYESS I GOT? IT WORKS. HIGH.

AND IF YOU'LL GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. YEAH, MY NAME IS JOE. TALK A LITTLE BIT. 4323 OLMSTEAD ROAD HERE IN BEAUTIFUL NEW ALBANY, OHIO. WE'VE LIVED HERE SEVEN YEARS. THIS IS MY LOVELY WIFE, ELIZABETH. WE ACTUALLY REALLY LOVE TO ALBANY GUYS. WE'VE LIVED ALL OVER THE COUNTRY. THIS IS AN AMAZING COMMUNITY. YOU GUYS DO AN AMAZING JOB WITH SAFETY. I DON'T CARE IF IT'S MAKING DUBLIN GRANVILLE ROAD SMALLER IN FRONT OF THE SCHOOLS, OR THE WAY THE BLINKERS HAVE GOTTEN IN ON THE CROSSWALKS HERE IN IN THE CITY OR THE THE SPEED SENSOR CAMERAS I'VE SEEN THROUGH THROUGH TOWN, I'VE ALREADY TAKEN UP MORE OF MY NEIGHBOR'S TIME THAN I TOLD THEM THAT I WOULD TAKE UP TODAY. SO I AM GOING TO SPEAK FAST.

I'M ALREADY ABRIDGING MY PREPARED REMARKS BECAUSE I WANT TO GET THEM OUT OF HERE. HEY, WE'RE HERE ALL NIGHT. YEAH, I KNOW, BUT YOU TAKE ALL THE TIME YOU LIKE. HEY, YOU GUYS SPEND A LOT OF TIME DOING THIS. I'M HERE TODAY TO TALK ABOUT THESE, AND I WAS MOTIVATED TO START TALKING ABOUT THESE. AND I SPECIFICALLY AM TALKING ABOUT THESE. NOTHING ELSE. I KNOW THERE'S SOME ORDINANCES COMING. I KNOW SOME OTHER THINGS ARE HAPPENING. THESE I'M HERE BECAUSE AND I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF TOM KNOWS. TOM, RAISE YOUR HAND. THAT'S TOM. HE'S MY NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR. HE'S AN OCTOGENARIAN. I DON'T KNOW HIS ACTUAL AGE. I DON'T IT'S NOT RELEVANT. I WATCHED ONE OF THESE. THIS IS OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. THESE ARE MY NEIGHBORS. THIS IS EVERY DAY OF OUR HOUSE. TODAY WAS THE BEST DAY I'VE HAD IN TWO MONTHS. BECAUSE IT RAINED.

I DIDN'T SEE A SINGLE ONE. I HAVE VIDEOS OF THIS. THIS GUY RIDING THIS WHEELIE. I HAVE A VIDEO RIGHT NOW 800FT DOWN MY STREET, ALL THE WAY DOWN HOMESTEAD EVERY DAY, GUYS. MORE THAN EIGHT OF THEM EVERY DAY. SO I'M HERE TO ASK. LET'S START JUST VERY CLEARLY. I HAVE DONE MORE RESEARCH OVER THE LAST 3 TO 4 WEEKS. I CAN CITE LAW. I CAN GIVE IT TO YOU IN THIS POWERPOINT RIGHT NOW. I THINK I CAN GIVE YOU THE TOOL TO TAKE THESE OFF THE STREETS TOMORROW MORNING. WHAT DOES NEW ALBANY THINK THESE ARE IN THE OR IF YOU NEED A COPY OF THE ORC DEFINITION OF MOTOR VEHICLES I HAVE LOTS OF COPIES HERE. SO LET'S TALK. WHAT IS WHAT ARE THESE. THERE YOU GO. THAT'S MY QUESTION. ANYBODY? WELL, I CAN TELL YOU. THANK YOU. THERE BY THE ORC THERE MOTOR VEHICLES. THANK YOU. SO. BUT THEY'RE A LITTLE MORE SUBSECTION. WHAT'S THAT? THERE'S A SUBSECTION THAT WOULD STILL INCLUDE IN THE IN THE ORC. YEAH. THE I GUESS THE.

SO ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE ORDINANCE REVISIONS IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT E-BIKES AND POWERED SCOOTERS. SO THESE AREN'T E-BIKES. RIGHT? RIGHT. BUT AND YOU WON'T SEE ANY REFERENCE TO IN THE REVISIONS.

YOU WON'T SEE ANY REFERENCE TO THESE BECAUSE REALLY THESE ARE ALREADY COVERED AS MOTOR VEHICLES BY MOTORCYCLE. THEY FALL UNDER MOTORCYCLE AND THEY'RE NOT E-BIKES. SO OKAY.

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THIS IS THIS IS THE REV ONE SCHOOL HASN'T FIGURED OUT THESE MOTORCYCLES YET. THEY'RE STILL LETTING THEM ON THE PROPERTY. FOR ALL OF YOU WHO DON'T KNOW THE CITY HAS OR THE SCHOOL. AND I'VE TALKED TO THE SUPERINTENDENT AT SCHOOLS IN THE LAST THREE DAYS HAS KICKED THESE OFF THE SCHOOL PROPERTY. THIS ONE. THIS IS AWESOME. THIS IS CALLED A REV ONE. SO TECHNICALLY HAS 750 WATT MOTOR. WE KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS RIGHT. LIKE IT'S STILL TECHNICALLY A E-BIKE EXCEPT IT'S ACTUALLY A 1000 WATT MOTOR. AND ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS SIGN A WAIVER AND CALL THE MANUFACTURER, AND THEY'LL SEND YOU THE UNLOCK CODE FOR OFF ROAD MODE. NOW YOU'VE GOT A 1000 WATT MOTOR AND YOU CAN GO 37 MILES AN HOUR. THEY DO IT DOWN MY STREET.

WE'VE GOT LOTS OF THESE TOOLS IN SCHOOL OR IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. THESE ARE 2000 WATT. EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT WATTS AND HORSEPOWER MEANS. WE ALL ARE SOLID ON WATTS AND HORSEPOWER. I'M AN ENGINEER. IF I SAY 32°F AND ZERO DEGREES CELSIUS, IT'S THE SAME THING.

IF I SAY 750W AND ONE HORSEPOWER, IT'S THE SAME THING. OKAY, SO 200W ALREADY WAY BEYOND ANY EVEN BY DEFINITION IN RC, WHICH IS ALSO BACK TO 16 CR, THE FEDERAL, THE CFR 16 1512. THERE YOU GO. AND I CAN RECITE IT LINE AND VERSE IF YOU NEED ME TO. WE'VE GOT TONS OF THESE OUT IN THE STREETS GT7 THREES. THESE ARE THE CHEAP ONES. IF YOU CAN'T BUY ONE OF THESE, THESE ARE 3000 TO 8000 WATT MOTORS. THESE ARE NOT EVEN CLOSE TO ANYTHING OTHER THAN THE MOTORCYCLE. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THEY NEED THEY DON'T HAVE THE MANUFACTURERS BUILD THEM TO BE OFF ROAD VEHICLES. THEY DON'T HAVE REFLECTORS, THEY DON'T HAVE BLINKERS, THEY DON'T HAVE BRAKE LIGHTS. THEY DON'T HAVE A HEADLIGHT. I'M SHAKING. WHAT ARE WE DOING? WHY ARE THESE ON MY ROADS? OH, HERE'S ONE. YOU CAN GO PICK IT UP IN PATASKALA. IT'S ONLY 15.

IT'S ONLY $900. IT GOES 32 MILES AN HOUR. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE IS NOT LEGAL. OR IT COULD BE STREET LEGAL, RIGHT? I MEAN, YOU COULD MAKE THESE STREET LEGAL. YOU COULD REGISTER THEM, PUT A LICENSE PLATE ON IT, YOU COULD TAKE THE EXAM AND GET A MOTORCYCLE LICENSE. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, YOU HAVE THE TOOLS TO TAKE THESE OFF THE STREETS TOMORROW.

TODAY, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE, IF ANY POLICE OFFICER IN NEW ALBANY PULLED OVER A VEHICLE, A MOTOR, A CAR, A TRUCK WITHOUT A LICENSE PLATE, WITHOUT INSURANCE, WITHOUT BEING REGISTERED, I DON'T THINK YOU WOULD LET THEM DRIVE AWAY. THESE ARE MOTOR VEHICLES. THEY WOULD BE IMPOUNDED. YOU CAN IMPOUND EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE AT ROSE RUN PARK. GOING THE WRONG WAY. YOU CAN IMPOUND EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE AT ROSE RUN PARK IF THEY'RE THERE.

THEY'VE RIDDEN ON PRIVATE AND PUBLIC PROPERTY. THEY'RE NOT LEGAL WITHOUT A LICENSE PLATE AND WITHOUT A DRIVER'S LICENSE. THERE'S NO AMBIGUITY IN THE LAW. THERE'S NO GRAY AREA. ENFORCE IT TODAY. NOW, WE CAN TALK LATER ABOUT I KNOW YOU HAVE AN ORDINANCE ABOUT SCOOTERS AND OTHER THINGS COMING. I'M SURE I'LL TALK ABOUT THOSE LATER. I CAN TAKE A BREATH ON THOSE. YOU CAN ACTUALLY HEAR ME. TAKE A BREATH ON SCOOTERS. THESE ARE NOT E-BIKES. IF I'M AN E-BIKE MANUFACTURER, I WOULD BE BESIDE MYSELF. THAT YOU THINK THAT THESE ARE E-BIKES? THESE ARE ELECTRIC MOTORCYCLES. MY WIFE AND I OWN A PUBLIC RELATIONS AND MARKETING CONSULTING FIRM.

I HAVE SOME TOOLS TO SEARCH NEWS ARTICLES. IN THE LAST 21 DAYS, THERE HAVE BEEN DEATHS CAUSED BY THESE IN NASHVILLE. PARDON ME. NASHVILLE, PUNTA GORDA, FLORIDA, NEWPORT BEACH, CALIFORNIA, TWO IN HAWAII, TWO IN LONG ISLAND, ONE IN UPSTATE NEW YORK. RIVERTON, UTAH.

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THAT WAS IN THE LAST 21 DAYS. THIS IS A PROBLEM, AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A PROBLEM WHERE SOMEONE IS GOING TO BE TERRIBLY HURT OR DIE IN NEW ALBANY. IT'S NOT THE PR I WANT FOR THIS CITY.

I REALLY LOVE THIS CITY. THIS IS LOW HANGING FRUIT. TO DO IT, LET'S LET'S GET THEM HOME.

THEY'RE DANGEROUS AS HELL. I THINK EVERY ONE OF MY NEIGHBORS HERE. RIGHT. WE ALL AGREE THIS IS CRAZY. WE WATCH THIS GO BY OUR HOUSES EVERY DAY. ANYWAY, I DON'T REALLY HAVE MUCH MORE TO SAY. I DON'T EXPECT YOU TO RESPOND WITH SOMETHING AMAZING. I NEEDED YOU TO HEAR US. WE ALL FEEL THIS WAY. IT IS CRAZY WHAT'S HAPPENING. I HAVE PARENTS, I'VE TALKED TO 100 RESIDENTS, GUYS. EVERYBODY HAS STORIES ABOUT THESE THINGS AT NIGHT GOING DOWN LIKE THEY CAME OUT OF NOWHERE. I ALMOST HIT IT. I TALKED TO TWO GUYS. OH, MY GOD, I MEANT TO TELL YOU THIS.

I TALKED TO TWO GUYS WHO DRIVE FROM MCCULLOUGH'S. WE KNOW WHO MCCULLOUGH'S IS HERE IN TOWN, RIGHT? THEY JUST WORKERS. JUST DRIVERS. NOT NOT ANYBODY. UNION COUNTY, NEW JERSEY JUST OUTLAWED ALL OF THESE AFTER A 13 YEAR OLD WAS KILLED BY A LANDSCAPING TRUCK. AND OH, THE LANDSCAPING TRUCK DIDN'T GET IN ANY TROUBLE. IT WAS A 13 YEAR OLD KID BEING AN IDIOT ON A BIKE. ON A MOTORCYCLE THAT IS A MOTORCYCLE. IT IS NOT IN ANY WAY IN THE. AND IT'S NOT EVEN A MOTORIZED. YOU COULD MAYBE MAKE THE CASE. IT COULD BECOME A MOTOR LIKE A MOPED. RIGHT? BUT UNFORTUNATELY, THE OHIO LAW HAS THOSE WORDS. IT IS EQUIPPED WITH A PISTON ENGINE, I THINK.

YEAH. YEAH. THEY JUST THEY CAN'T UNFORTUNATELY THEY, THEY DON'T FIT INTO THAT DEFINITION.

SO THEY MOTORCYCLE THEY HAVE MOTORCYCLE RULES. THEY AREN'T CHILDREN'S TOYS. ANYWAY. THAT'S ALL I REALLY HAVE TO SAY. I HOPE YOU'LL HELP US. I THINK YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO HELP US RIGHT NOW. I CAN WAIT ON THE SCOOTERS AND THE OTHER THINGS. IT'S A WILD WORLD. THERE'S SO MANY THINGS OUT THERE. I GET IT, THIS ISN'T ONE OF THOSE. SO JUST A COUPLE OF ISSUES TO KEEP IN MIND. AND I'M NOT REALLY LOOKING FOR FEEDBACK ON THIS RIGHT NOW. BUT AS THIS CONVERSATION MATURES, YOU KNOW, I THINK AS YOU POINT OUT, LIKE THESE SAURON TYPE VEHICLES ARE MOST CERTAINLY. COVERED IN THE REVISED CODE AS A MOTORIZED VEHICLE. WHERE YOU START TO GET A LITTLE MORE COMPLICATED IS WHERE THERE'S SOME LEVEL OF PEDAL ASSIST. AND IT'S NOT A NO A PISTON DRIVEN ENGINE. NO. HEY, JOE, I'M NOT ASKING FOR DEBATE HERE. I LISTEN TO YOU. LISTEN TO ME. HEY! STOP IT! MAYOR! STOP IT! ALRIGHT, YOU'RE GOING TO BE HERE. YOU'RE GOING TO BE RESPECTFUL OR YOU CAN GO. ALRIGHT, I HEARD YOU. YOU LISTEN TO ME. THE OTHER ISSUE THAT WE HAVE TO CONFRONT IS THESE ARE YOUNG PEOPLE OUT THERE DOING THINGS. THEIR PARENTS HAVE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THIS AT SOME LEVEL, RIGHT? YOU HAVE KIDS OUT THERE DOING DANGEROUS ACTIVITY, IS PROBABLY UNDERINSURED OR NOT INSURED. AND THE THING THAT PUTS US IN A VERY DIFFICULT POSITION IS YOU'RE GOING TO ASK CHIEF JONES AND OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS TO START HAVING VERY DIFFICULT INTERACTIONS WITH YOUNG PEOPLE ON VEHICLES THAT, TO YOUR OWN POINT, CAN GO 30 TO 50 MILES AN HOUR. SO WE WE HAVE TO APPROACH THIS IN A CAREFUL, THOUGHTFUL WAY, BECAUSE THE LAST THING WE WANT TO DO IS CAUSE A SITUATION WHERE YOUNG PEOPLE ARE FLEEING POLICE OFFICERS THAT ARE IN PURSUIT. SO THE THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THIS HAS TO BE THOUGHTFUL. WE CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERNS AND HOW THEY NEED TO BE ADDRESSED. IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME. WE'RE GOING TO WORK THROUGH IT TOGETHER. BUT WE APPRECIATE YOUR FEEDBACK. WE APPRECIATE YOU COMING HERE AND SHARING THESE CONCERNS WITH US. I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN OVERNIGHT. PLEASE, PLEASE, I FIRST OF ALL, I AGREE. I WILL SAY I THINK POLICE CHIEF JONES WOULD BE THE INTERACTION WITH THE DEATH OF A CHILD WOULD BE WORSE THAN A PARENT WHO'S UPSET THAT THEY BOUGHT A THING THAT WAS ILLEGAL. FIRST OF ALL, I AGREE. SECONDLY, AND I'M SORRY ABOUT THE PEDALS. I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE PEDALS. I COULD SEE I DON'T KNOW WHO'S THE LEGAL PERSON IS, BUT THERE IS NO PEDALS IN ANY OF THIS. ONCE YOU HAVE MORE THAN 750W OF A MOTOR, PEDALS DON'T MATTER. I CAN'T PUT A PEDAL ON ON MY NEIGHBOR ERIC'S HARLEY AND CALL IT A MOTORCYCLE OR A BIKE PEDALS, AND AT 750W YOU GRADUATE. MAYBE YOU COULD HAVE PEDALS ON A MOPED, BUT THAT REQUIRES A LICENSE PLATE. THERE IS NO ISSUE. NONE IN LAW FOR PEDALS? NONE. EVERY THING. IF

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I SEE IT EVERY DAY. THESE KIDS ARE GOING 30, 40MPH DOWN OLMSTEAD. THEY'RE NOT FOLLOWING TRAFFIC LAWS. THEY'RE PASSING CARS. I'M REALLY WORRIED SOMETHING BAD IS GOING TO HAPPEN, NOT TO JUST THE RIDER, BUT MYSELF. I WAS ALSO WALKING ON THE PATH BY THE COUNTRY CLUB UNDER THE TUNNEL, AND ONE OF THESE MOTORCYCLES ALMOST TOOK ME OUT. HONEST ENGINE. I CALLED BRIAN, THE MANAGER OF THE COUNTRY CLUB, AND ABOUT 48 HOURS LATER HE HAD MIRRORS INSTALLED ON THE TUNNEL. BECAUSE OF ALL THE CHAOS FOR THE INFLOW TO THAT TUNNEL IS.

BUT MY CONCERN IS SOMETHING BAD IS GOING TO HAPPEN TO ONE OF THESE KIDS. IT REALLY IS. I REALLY WOULD LOVE SOME OF YOU TO COME AND JUST SIT ON OLMSTEAD ONE DAY DURING A GOOD WEATHER WEEKEND. IT'S IT'S BAD. IT REALLY, REALLY IS. AND THAT'S WHY I'M HERE. THANK YOU.

YEP. I KNOW, JOE, I APPRECIATE YOUR PASSION. AND I THINK I SHARED, YOU KNOW BEFORE COUNCIL WE ARE YOU KNOW WE'VE HAD WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS ORDINANCE ADJUSTMENT FOR QUITE SOME TIME.

OUR LAW DIRECTOR AND CHIEF, IT'S BEEN A PROCESS. AND TO THE MAYOR'S POINT, WE WANTED TO BE THOUGHTFUL. WE DON'T WANT TO DO SOMETHING THAT THE CITY CAN'T ENFORCE OR SHOULDN'T ENFORCE.

AND SO WE'RE IT'S A BALANCING ACT. I DON'T THINK THERE'S A SINGLE VEHICLE APOLOGIST ON THIS COUNCIL. LIKE WE ALL AGREE. YOU SEE US OUT ON THE LEISURE PATHS. WE ARE OUT THERE GETTING BUZZED BY. I MEAN, I'M LIKE, I'VE SHARED THAT. I'VE HAD MY MOMENTS WHERE I'M LIKE, WHAT IS GOING ON? WHY ARE THESE KIDS ON THESE THINGS SO PASSIONATE? HAVE MINE AS WELL? YES. AND I, I DEFINITELY RECOGNIZE THAT AND I DO I UNDERSTAND YOU GUYS KIND OF SHOWED UP FOR JOE'S PRESENTATION IN NOT TOO LONG. WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A FIRST HEARING OF THE ORDINANCE.

CHANGE TO THE CODE THAT ADDRESSES VEHICLES. AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S KIND OF A CAVEAT.

THESE ARE MOTORIZED VEHICLES. AND THEN ALSO WE'RE ADDRESSING SCOOTERS AND THE OTHER CATEGORIES CLASS ONE, TWO AND THREE VEHICLES AS WELL AS KIND OF A HOLISTIC APPROACH IS HOW WE'RE GOING TO APPROACH ALL VEHICLES GOING FORWARD. BUT SO THAT WILL BE FIRST HEARING IN ABOUT MAYBE A HALF HOUR OR SO. IT SHOULDN'T BE TOO LONG, BUT THEN YOU CAN KIND OF HEAR THE PRESENTATION OF THE CITY AND THEN YOU'LL HAVE TIME. IT'LL PROBABLY COME BACK IN A COUPLE WEEKS. AND THEN THERE WILL BE PUBLIC COMMENT AT THAT TIME. BUT AGAIN, WE'RE ALL PULLING THE SAME DIRECTION AND SHARE ALL OF THESE CONCERNS THAT THAT YOU'VE SHARED TONIGHT, JOE. AND TO COUNCIL MEMBERS, THE OBSERVATION, IF YOU HAVE FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS THAT WERE NOT ABLE TO MAKE IT THIS EVENING, THAT YOU WANTED TO MAKE SURE THEY HEAR THIS CONVERSATION, ALL THIS IS RECORDED AND TELEVISED. IT'LL BE UP ON THE WEBSITE IN A DAY OR TWO. SO IF THEY WANT TO SEE THIS AND THE PRESENTATION LATER TONIGHT TALKING ABOUT THE CHANGES TO OUR ORDINANCES THAT WILL TRY TO ADDRESS SOME OF THESE ISSUES, WELCOME THAT FEEDBACK. AND AGAIN, OUR NEXT COUNCIL MEETING WILL HAVE A MORE ROBUST PUBLIC CONVERSATION ON THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE AS WELL. BUT ALSO IF YOU CAN STICK AROUND FOR THE PRESENTATION, IT'S JUST NOT THE BIKES AND SCOOTERS THAT WE'RE GOING TO COVER. DURING THE PRESENTATION, WE HAVE A SECTION TALKING ABOUT THE DIRT BIKES, WHICH THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT. SO I THINK THAT WE'LL HOPEFULLY GIVE YOU SOME ANSWERS. AS FAR AS OUR, AS YOU MENTIONED, OUR OUR MORE COMPREHENSIVE, THOUGHTFUL APPROACH. YEP. THANKS, CHIEF. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE ANOTHER SPEAKER CARD, DAVID ANDREWS. AND MR. ANDREWS. IF MR. ANDREWS IF YOU GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. SO DAVID ANDREWS AND I WORK FOR ELLIOT COOPER, A STORE HERE IN NEW ALBANY. AND ALL I CAN SAY IS, IF YOU REALLY WANT TO SEE SOMETHING, COME OVER TO THE STORE OUTSIDE OUR STORE AT 215 TO 3:00. YOU WILL RISK YOUR LIFE. IT IS AMAZING HOW FAST THESE KIDS GO BY ON THEIR BIKES.

BUT THESE E-BIKES, ESPECIALLY A COUPLE OF TIMES I'VE ALMOST GOTTEN KILLED BY THESE KIDS JUST WALKING OVER TO HUNTINGTON BANK NEXT DOOR. THESE KIDS COME AROUND THAT CORNER AND I KNOW THEY'RE THERE. THE PROBLEM, THE GENTLEMAN SAID BEFORE, THE THING IS, THESE KIDS ARE 10 TO 12 YEARS OLD. THEY DON'T HAVE THE KNOWLEDGE ON RIDING THESE MOTORCYCLES, BASICALLY. AND THEY COME BY OUR STORE SO FAST. AND WE'VE HAD SEVERAL CUSTOMERS. AND I THINK IT'S BAD FOR NEW ALBANY BECAUSE WE HAVE PEOPLE COME IN FROM CLEVELAND FROM ALL OVER TO SHOP AT OUR STORE AND

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ANY UPDATE FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION. NO MEETINGS, PARKS AND TRAILS, NO MEETING ARB, NO MEETING BZA. NO MEETING. SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD. NO MEETING IDEA IMPLEMENTATION PANEL. NO MEETING. CEMETERY RESTORATION ADVISORY BOARD. WE'VE HEARD ABOUT MEETING AND NO MEETING. PUBLIC RECORDS COMMISSION. THAT MIGHT BE A FIRST. THAT'S A CLEAN SLATE.

ALRIGHT. CORRESPONDENCE TO COMMUNICATIONS. ANYONE RECEIVED ANY CORRESPONDENCE OR COMMUNICATION NOT INVOLVING E-BIKES THAT THEY'D LIKE TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON? THAT

[9. SECOND READING OF ORDINANCES AND PUBLIC HEARING]

CONDOMINIUM PLOTS ARE RECORDED WITH THE COUNTY AFTER THE UNITS ARE BUILT, WHERE A MORE TRADITIONAL PLOT, WHICH YOU WERE USED TO HEARING, HAS TO GO IN FRONT OF PLANNING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL REVIEW FOR APPROVAL, AND ONCE THEY ARE RECORDED WITH THE COUNTY, THEN CONSTRUCTION STARTS. IN THE EARLY STAGES OF THIS DEVELOPMENT, THE CITY STAFF MET WITH THE APPLICANT AND UNDERSTOOD THAT THE CONDOMINIUM, SORRY UNDERSTOOD THAT IT WOULD BE PLOTTED AS A CONDOMINIUM AND CONSISTENT WITH THE TOWNHOMES THAT HAVE TYPICALLY BEEN PLOTTED IN THE CITY, AND BASED ON THAT UNDERSTANDING THAT CONSTRUCTION WAS PERMITTED TO START OVER THE PAST FEW MONTHS, FURTHER DISCUSSION WITH THE APPLICANT HAS CLARIFIED THAT THE TRADITIONAL PLOT WAS ACTUALLY REQUIRED, AND AS A RESULT, THE LEGISLATION IS BEING PRESENTED BEFORE COUNCIL TODAY. SO NOW BACK TO THE PROPOSED RICHMOND SQUARE. THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD DID APPROVE THE APPROVE A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS APPLICATION FOR THE DEVELOPMENT IN DECEMBER, ON DECEMBER 11TH OF 2023, AND THEN THE MODIFICATION OF THAT AGAIN IN ON JUNE 10TH OF 2024. AND THE PLOT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE APPROVED PLANS, INCLUDING THE SIX TOWNHOMES, EACH ON THEIR OWN LOT, WHICH ARE CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION. AS I'M SURE MANY OF YOU HAVE SEEN, THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS REVIEWED AND RECOMMENDED APPROVAL FOR THE FINAL PLOT APPLICATION DURING THE MEETING ON SEPTEMBER 15TH OF THIS YEAR, BY A VOTE OF 3 TO 0, THE ORDINANCE BE ADOPTED THIS EVENING AND I, AS WELL AS AARON UNDERHILL UNDERHILL, ARE HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE. IS THAT ONE THAT'S ALMOST COMPLETE, 22 AND 23 OR IS IT JUST 20? IT'S BOTH. YES. YEAH.

OKAY. YEAH. AND KELSEY, JUST BACK TO THE ELEVATIONS RIGHT THERE. THAT IS THAT BASICALLY ON 62. SO THAT'S SORT OF THE VIEW AS YOU'RE DRIVING LIKE NORTH TO SOUTH SO TO SPEAK. YES.

CONNECTING THE, THE, THE UNITS THAT HAVE BEEN CONSTRUCTED AND THE UNITS THAT WILL BE CONSTRUCTED, THAT WALL WILL BE OKAY. WHAT'S PRESENTED, WHAT'S BEHIND THE WALL IS THAT THE DRIVE TO THE GARAGE IS UNDERNEATH. YEAH. AND I'M SURE IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S PROBABLY AN ELEVATION CHANGE. THAT DOORWAY THAT'S THERE. THAT'S JUST THE FALSE DOORS. JUST ARCHITECTURAL FEATURE. CORRECT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ARE ARE WE RENAMING THAT ROADWAY BEHIND IT? THERE'S A SIGN THERE NOW THAT JUST CALLS IT ALLEY. IS IT BECOMING MCDONALD LANE OR IS THAT WHAT IT ALWAYS WAS ON OFF OF? CAN WE GO BACK TO THE. YEAH, I SAW MCDONALD I YEAH IT'S IT'S IT'S MCDONALD LANE OKAY. THE STREET SIGN THERE I THINK IS JUST ALLEY. BE INTERESTING WHEN

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YES. SO THE WEST MAIN STREET ELEVATION. SO THAT'S WHAT IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE ON 62. SO IF I LOOK IF THAT'S THE NORTH SIDE, THE NORTH END TO THE RIGHT, THAT'S NOT WHAT THE CURRENT BUILDING LOOKS LIKE. AS YOU DRIVE BY IT. THERE'S A PATIO FACING THIS WAY. IT DOES NOT LOOK LIKE THAT. SO IF THAT'S THE ACTUAL DESIGN THAT'S BEING APPROVED, WAS APPROVED. THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M SEEING ON THE ROAD TODAY. YEAH. WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT IT. THESE ARE THE APPROVED PERMITS. THEY ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF CONSTRUCTION, SO I'M NOT SURE IF THEY HAVE THAT FINISHED UP YET. WELL, THE SILHOUETTE OF THE BUILDING IS THERE. THE PATIO IS THERE. YEAH, THE WINDOWS ARE THERE. SO IF SOMEBODY CAN LOOK AT THAT BECAUSE IT DOESN'T SHOW DOORWAYS COMING OFF GROUND LEVEL ONTO 62. AND I CAN'T SPEAK TO THE OTHER SIDE. BUT CLEARLY I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING SOMEBODY SHOULD LOOK AT BECAUSE IT'S NOT WHAT THIS RENDERING IS. YEAH. WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. THANK YOU. ON THE BASIS OF THAT CONCERN, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO TABLE UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING? IT SHOULD IMPACT THE ACTUAL FLAT ITSELF. THE PLAT IS JUST PLATTING THE LOTS. AND SO WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THE ARCHITECTURAL. AND THE PERMIT ITSELF WILL BE THE ENFORCEMENT MECHANISM IF YOU WILL. OKAY.

THANK YOU. I'D JUST LIKE TO HEAR BACK WHAT YOU FIND OUT. I HAVE NO ISSUE WITH THE PLOT PLATS, BUT IF THEY AREN'T FOLLOWING THE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN, I'D BE CURIOUS. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? WE'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC LIKE TO SPEAK REGARDING ORDINANCE OH 39 2025? SEEING NO PUBLIC COMMENT, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND MOVE FOR THE ADOPTION OF ORDINANCE. OH 39 2025 SECOND MAYOR SPALDING. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. YES. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. BRISK. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. DERRICK. YES. COUNCILMEMBER. YES. COUNCILMEMBER. SCHULTZ. YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER. WILTROUT. YES. I HAVE SEVEN YES VOTES TO ADOPT. ORDINANCE OH 39 2025. ALRIGHT.

[10. INTRODUCTION AND FIRST READING OF ORDINANCES]

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THIS IS MUCH OF THE STUFF THAT WE'VE WE'VE HEARD ABOUT AND RECEIVED COMPLAINTS ABOUT THIS.

A LOT OF THEM MIGHT FALL UNDER THIS, BUT THIS ADDS E-BIKES AND POWERED SCOOTERS TO THE REQUIREMENT TO EXERCISE REASONABLE CONTROL AND TO OPERATE WITH REGARD FOR THE SAFETY AND RIGHTS OF PEDESTRIANS AND OTHERS. IT ALSO IMPLEMENTS A 15 MILE AN HOUR SPEED LIMIT ON SIDEWALKS AND SHARED USE PATHS. SORRY, SHARED USE PATHS. ARE THOSE LEISURE TRAILS? YEAH. LEISURE TRAILS. SO THERE'S LITERALLY MY QUESTIONS. YEAH. SO THERE'S A NUMBER OF AND THE DIFFERENT ORDINANCE. THERE'S A NUMBER OF WAYS THAT THE PATHS HAVE BEEN REFERRED TO. AND SO WE WERE TRYING TO REALLY KIND OF CONDENSE THAT INTO A LEGAL DEFINITION AS A SHARED USE PATH. CAN I GO UP JUST REAL QUICK ON 373.05? YES. ADDS POWERED SCOOTERS THAT MAY WHY IS THE WORD MAY? SO THE EXISTING ORDINANCE HAD MAY SO WITHOUT THE POWERED SCOOTERS, THE WAY THE ORDINANCE READS TODAY THAT WORD IS MAY IS IS WHAT'S USED INSTEAD OF SHALL. SO WE DIDN'T CHANGE THE MAY. WE CERTAINLY ARE OPEN TO CHANGING THE DRAFT.

BUT WE WE STUCK WITH IT MAY BECAUSE IT WAS ALREADY THERE. SO YEAH I WOULD I WOULD THIS MY VOTE WOULD BE IT SHOULD BE SHALL BE EQUIPPED BUT OKAY MAYBE I'M NOT THINKING IT THROUGH OKAY. NO. AND CHIEF, JUST JUST TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT. 301365 SHARED USE PATH. IS THERE A WAY THAT WE COULD DELINEATE LEISURE TRAIL IN THAT DEFINITION SOMEWHERE? BECAUSE I DO THINK THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE IF WE CAN. AS FAR AS AN EXAMPLE OF A SHARED PATH, BECAUSE IT IS A SHARED PATH. CORRECT. SO I THINK WE TRIED TO GET RID OF THE DIFFERENT TERMS. SO THAT'S EITHER A SIDEWALK OR SHARED USE PATH THROUGHOUT. I SUPPOSE WE COULD PUT IN THERE, FOR EXAMPLE, A LEISURE TRAIL OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BUT ONE OF THE THINGS WE WANT TO DO IN GOING THROUGH ALL THESE DIFFERENT ORDINANCES AND PROVISIONS IS MAKE SURE THERE'S AS MUCH

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WE'VE GOT A BIKE TRAIL AND THEN WE'VE GOT A LEISURE TRAIL AND THEN SO AND I'M ASSUMING THEY'RE ALL CONSIDERED SHARED. BUT I DIDN'T KNOW THE LEISURE TRAIL WAS PART OF THAT WHEN I'M THINKING OF THIS DEFINITION. BUT IF IF WE'RE NOT THINKING THAT'S RIGHT, THAT'S FINE. BUT AS SOMEONE WHO'S JUST NOT USED TO READING ALL THESE ALL THE TIME, TO ME THAT WOULD STAND OUT. IF I'M A SOMEONE HERE IN NEW ALBANY, THAT'S CAN THEY BE ON LEISURE TRAILS? BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE I GET THE MOST FEEDBACK FROM NEIGHBORS AND RESIDENTS IS ISSUES ON LEISURE TRAILS. SO THE SHARED USE, THERE'S A BIGGER DEFINITION IN 3013 65 THAT DEFINES THE SHARED USE PATH AS ANYTHING USED BY PEDESTRIANS, SKATERS, JOGGERS, MANUAL MOTORIZED WHEELCHAIRS, BIKES, BICYCLES. SO IT'S PRETTY BROAD AS TO WHAT THAT IS. AND THEN IT JUST IT'S ANY TRAIL THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE IT'S PRIMARILY USED FOR MOUNTAIN BIKING, HIKING OR EQUESTRIAN.

SO IF YOU'RE ON YOUR HORSE, I GUESS THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE THOSE E-BIKES. IT'S NOT THE BRIDLE TRAIL. YEAH, EXACTLY. ROCKY FORK, I MEAN, BUT WE CERTAINLY CAN CONSIDER THAT. BUT WE THAT WAS OUR GOAL WAS TO TRY TO TO REFERENCES AS OPPOSED TO THREE, FOUR DIFFERENT TERMS THROUGHOUT.

THAT'S FINE. IT'S ON RECORD TODAY THAT THAT IS CONSIDERED A SHARED PATH. SO YEAH, THERE WE GO. KIND OF SKIPPING AHEAD. YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS WITH TAYLOR FARM AND SOME OTHER PLACES ROSE RUN PARK. YOU KNOW WE CAN'T THROUGH POSTING SIGNS WE CAN ALWAYS DESIGNATE CERTAIN AREAS OR CERTAIN PATHS THAT AREN'T THAT DON'T ALLOW MOTORIZED VEHICLES OR THINGS LIKE THAT. I THINK WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT WITH A PARK THAT WE'VE GOTTEN SOME COMPLAINTS ABOUT A SMALL PARK. SO WE CAN CERTAINLY IF THERE ARE AREAS THAT WE DON'T WANT TO SEE, MOTORIZED VEHICLES WE CAN CARVE OUT, IT'S NOT A UNIVERSAL THAT THAT WE HAVE TO ALLOW THEM EVERYWHERE. I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT ASPECT. I THINK CERTAINLY TAYLOR FARMS PARK, WHAT WE HEARD EARLIER THIS EVENING ABOUT THE CENTER OF TOWN, BECAUSE I'VE EXPERIENCED THAT ZOOMING THROUGH THERE WITH POWER BIKES. I THINK AT THE OKTOBERFEST, THEY HAD A SIGN OUT FRONT THAT SAID NO MOTORIZED VEHICLES. I SAW KIDS RIDING UP TO IT, SEE THE SIGN AND TURN AWAY, GO DRIVING INTO THE PARKING LOT. SO I THINK WHERE WE DON'T WANT THEM, LET'S PUT UP SOME SIGNS AND WHEN THEY VIOLATE THAT, THAT'S. YEAH. I THINK, YOU KNOW, EVEN AS WE WORKED ON THIS, I STARTED THINKING UNIVERSALLY THAT THIS IS ALL THE PATHS IN NEW ALBANY.

BUT I REMIND MYSELF THAT WE CAN CARVE OUT WHATEVER COUNCIL WOULD LIKE. AN EXAMPLE THAT I SEE IN OTHER JURISDICTIONS IS THEY CARVE OUT THE, THE DOWNTOWN, THE CERTAIN DISTRICTS AND THAT. AND SO WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT AS WELL. YEAH. AND THAT'S ONE OF THE CHANGES IN 3013 65 WE MAKE IT CLEAR WE CAN PICK CERTAIN AREAS WHERE THE SHARED USE PATH, WHERE IT MAY BE MORE TRAFFIC, PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC THAT WE WANT TO SET MORE RESTRICTIONS THAN SOMEPLACE ELSE. SO BUT WE WOULD HAVE TO PUT SIGNAGE UP FOR THAT. I COULD SEE MARKET SQUARE BEING A NO ELECTRIC E-BIKE OR SCOOTER OR WHATEVER. YOU KNOW, ALL OF THEM PEDAL ONLY, PEDAL ONLY.

AND I MEAN IN THEORY. SO TO THE ELLIOT COOPER EXAMPLE, I MEAN, IN FRONT OF THE STORE WOULD BE A SIDEWALK BY DEFINITION, CORRECT? YES. YEAH. SO THAT WOULD BE THEY COULD STILL BE ON IT, BUT IT WOULD HAVE TO BE NON-MOTORIZED WHILE THEY WERE IN FRONT OF THOSE STORES. YEAH, I THINK I THINK AS WE DEVELOP THAT ALSO THE SCHOOLS HAVE ASKED ABOUT SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THAT BECAUSE WE BASICALLY ARE WE BANNING THEM FROM THE SCHOOLS SIDEWALKS. SO I THINK THAT WE WOULD NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WORK OUT THE PRIVATE PROPERTY VERSUS PUBLIC. BUT I THINK THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN WORK ON. YOU KNOW, AS ANY CHANGE IN LAWS, IT'S LIKE, OH, BY LAWS AND CCW LAWS, THEY, THEY, YOU PUT THEM IN PLACE AND THEN YOU FIND THAT YOU STILL NEED TO TWEAK THEM DOWN THE ROAD. IT'D BE LIKE A JUST A NEW LINE ELECTRIC VEHICLE, WHATEVER WE'RE CALLING THEM IN TOTAL, YOU KNOW, ARE, YOU KNOW, ARE POSTED OR NOT.

YEAH, YEAH I DO. AND WHILE WE'RE ON THE SHARED USE VERSUS SIDEWALK, I MEAN, I GUESS TO MATT'S POINT, LIKE, I THINK I KIND OF FIGURE OUT WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS BETWEEN A SIDEWALK, BUT I COULD READ THE DEFINITION OF SIDEWALK AND I THINK SHARED USE PATH PROBABLY FALL INTO THAT SAME DEFINITION AS WELL. BETWEEN CURB LINES, LATERAL LINES OR ROADWAY ADJACENT PROPERTY LINES. LIKE MOST OF OUR SHARED USE PATHS, MEET THAT CRITERIA AS WELL. SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANT TO DO LIKE A PHYSICAL DEFINITION WHERE A SIDEWALK IS A FOUR FOOT CONCRETE PATH VERSUS A SHARED USE PATH, IS EIGHT FOOT PAVED. I THINK YOU COULD I THINK YOU

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SO NOW YOU'RE MAKING YOU'RE FORCING ALL THOSE SCOOTERS ONTO THE ROADWAY. I YEAH I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANT THAT EITHER. I THINK. NO, WE DON'T WANT THEM ANYWHERE. SO YEAH, I THINK WITH RESPECT TO THE COMMENT ABOUT PATHS AND TRAILS AND SIDEWALKS, I THINK WE CAN GET CAUGHT UP IN A LOT OF THE, THE DETAIL. BUT I THINK WHEN YOU PUT SOMETHING IN THAT SAYS A WALKING TRAIL IS A SHARED PATH AND SIDEWALKS THE SIDEWALK, I THINK THAT PRETTY MUCH EXPLAINS TO PEOPLE WHAT THEY ARE. YEAH. AND AND I DON'T THINK YOU NEED TO GO INTO TOO MANY MORE DEFINITIONS. CLEARLY.

I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF THIS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FIGURE OUT AS WE GO ALONG WHERE WE WILL HAVE LEGISLATION HERE. AND I'M FOR ALL THIS AND MAYBE MORE, I THINK AS ENFORCEMENT AND OTHER THINGS START, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BE ATTENTIVE TO IT GOING FORWARD AND SEE HOW THINGS EVOLVE. AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE I'M COMING FROM IS I THINK WE NEED TO GET THESE DEFINITIONS RIGHT NOW TO GIVE CHIEF AND HIS STAFF THE TOOLS TO ENFORCE THIS, BECAUSE IF THERE'S ANY AMBIGUITY AT ALL, YEAH, THEY PULL OVER SOMEBODY AND SAY, HEY, YOU'RE ON A SIDEWALK AND AND, YOU KNOW, WELL, WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SIDEWALK AND SHARED USE PATH? DO WE THINK THAT THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SIDEWALK AND THEY'RE NOT THEY'RE NOT THEY'RE NOT THE SAME. THEY'RE GOING TO BE TREATED DIFFERENTLY. SO DO WE THINK THAT THERE SHOULD BE A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SIDEWALK AND SHARED USE PATHS? BECAUSE, I MEAN, I GUESS WE COULD TALK ABOUT DO WE OUTLAW THEM? WHATEVER. WHAT IS WHERE DO THEY GO? BUT I DON'T PERSONALLY SEE A DISTINCTION IN THE DANGERS BETWEEN SHARED USE PATH AND SIDEWALKS. WELL, I THINK WHAT CASEY WAS SAYING IS ACCURATE, WHICH IS ONCE YOU START SAYING NOT ON THE SHARED USE PATH EITHER, NOW YOU'RE FORCING THEM ONTO THE STREET. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A DIFFERENT DANGER AND A DIFFERENT PROBLEM. I DON'T LIKE THEM ANYWHERE. I WISH WE COULD JUST SAY, GET THEM OUT OF OUR HOME CITY, BUT WE CAN'T. THAT'S NOT REALISTIC. SO WHAT IS THE LEAST DANGEROUS AND, YOU KNOW, BEST COMPROMISE IN TERMS OF WHERE THEY CERTAIN ONES OUGHT TO BE. AND IT PROBABLY IS THE SHARED USE PATH, NOT THE SIDEWALK, SIDEWALKS AND OR SHARED USE PATHS. WELL, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. LIKE WE CAN EITHER REGULATE THEM ALL AT THE SAME TIME, AND PERHAPS WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T OUTLAW SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T WANT TO OR MAKE A BIGGER PROBLEM FOR US. OR WE CAN FIGURE OUT WHY A SIDEWALK NEEDS MORE PROTECTION THAN A SHARED USE PATH. AND MAYBE IT'S THAT WE WANT THEY NEED TO GO SOMEWHERE. BUT HOW DO YOU JUST STAY IN A SHARED USE PATH AND THEN, YOU KNOW, GET TO WHERE YOU'RE GOING, LIKE YOU'RE ULTIMATELY GOING TO END UP ON A SIDEWALK, PRETTY MUCH. AND, YOU KNOW, THEN THAT'S GOING TO CREATE ISSUES TO GET ANYWHERE. YOU'RE GOING TO WIND UP ON BOTH, YOU'RE GOING TO BE ON SIDEWALKS, YOU'RE GOING TO BE ON SHARED PATHS. IF YOU DON'T GO ON THE ROAD OR ON THE ROAD. IN THEORY, I'M JUST ENVISIONING, YOU KNOW, WE STILL DON'T BUS KIDS INSIDE A TWO MILE RADIUS. SO A LOT OF THESE KIDS ARE RIDING THEIR SCOOTERS TO SCHOOL. YEAH. AND IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THEY'RE RIDING OUT OF, YOU KNOW, FROM OLMSTEAD ROAD. AND THEY CAN, YOU KNOW, IT'S A NEIGHBORHOOD ROAD 25 MILES AN HOUR, FAR LESS TRAFFIC. SO IN THEORY, A SCOOTER CAN BE ON THE ROAD IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. BUT THEN ONCE THEY COME OUT TO 62 OR THEY HAVE TO COME OUT TO A, YOU KNOW, A LARGER ROADWAY TO GET TO THE ACTUAL SCHOOL IN DUBLIN, GRANVILLE, THEN THEY'RE ON A SHARED USE PATH RATHER THAN THE ROADWAY. SO I GUESS MY THING IS, WHAT DID WE DO BEFORE WE HAD ELECTRIC SCOOTERS? I RODE BIKES OR WALKED, SO LIKE, BUT THEY HAVE ELECTRIC SCOOTERS AND THEY'RE LEGAL. BUT THE ELECTRIC THE ELECTRIC SCOOTERS ARE CAUSING ISSUES THAT WE WANT TO SOLVE FOR. THEN I THINK WE NEED TO BE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE FACT THAT THERE ARE

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THAT MUST BE DOWNHILL WITH THE WIND. BUT ON THESE AGAIN IN THESE ENVIRONMENTS, YOU KNOW, PUTTING SOME SORT OF SPEED LIMIT THAT IS EASILY, EASILY DETERMINED BY SOMEONE VIEWING IT, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S AN OFFICER, YOU KNOW, SITTING THERE OR A PEDESTRIAN GETS PASSED BY A VEHICLE, YOU COULD SAY, WELL, IF THAT PERSON WAS CERTAINLY GOING FASTER THAN X NUMBERS OUT MILES PER HOUR, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S BEEN IN ANY WAY DISCUSSED OR WHAT THE SORT OF. DIFFICULTIES OF ENFORCING THAT WOULD BE. CHIEF AND I HAVE DISCUSSED THE

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SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S TO FROM A LOGISTICAL STANDPOINT, TRYING TO TO ENFORCE THAT SPEED ON PASS WOULD ALSO BE, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE BIT BURDENSOME. NOT THAT WE CAN'T. THE OTHER THING TOO IS THAT IF YOU'RE IF YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, FROM A FROM AN OFFICER PERSPECTIVE, YOU'RE TRYING TO RUN RADAR ON A, ON A PATH LIKE ON 62 AND IT RUNS UP THE ROAD, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO PICK UP THE BIKES AND THE SCOOTERS. YOU'RE GOING TO PICK UP THE CARS GENERALLY. AND THEN WITH THE LASERS, WE CAN DO THAT AS WELL. IT'S A LOT SMALLER TARGET, OBVIOUSLY. I THINK THAT THE. YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT WITH ANY LAW AND PARTICULARLY THIS WITH THE PATHS AND SIDEWALKS AND THESE TYPE OF VEHICLES, THERE'S GOING TO BE CHALLENGES THAT WE THAT WE DON'T FACE WHEN ENFORCING TRAFFIC LAWS WITH, WITH CARS AND TRUCKS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE HERE. I THINK THAT'S KIND OF WHAT THE MAYOR ALLUDED EARLIER. THAT'S KIND OF WHY WE'RE TAKING A LITTLE BIT OF A MULTIFACETED APPROACH, WHETHER IT BE EDUCATION AND WORKING WITH THE SCHOOLS, BECAUSE A LOT OF THESE END UP WITH SCHOOLS AT SOME POINT IN TIME THAT WE'RE KIND OF HOPING THAT THIS MULTI-DISCIPLINE APPROACH TO IT WILL KIND OF HELP IN TAKING CARE OF THAT. BUT THIS IS CERTAINLY NOT A YOU KNOW, ONCE WE ENFORCE, ONCE WE'RE ABLE TO GET THIS IN A, IN A, IN A VERSION THAT THAT GETS PASSED, IT DEFINITELY HAS ITS CHALLENGES WHEN IT COMES TO ENFORCEMENT. AND AS FAR AS THE SIDEWALKS AND THE PATHS GO, THAT WAS BASICALLY THAT'S A PRETTY MUCH A MIRROR IMAGE OF WHAT THE STATE LAW ALREADY HAS IN IT. SO AND I THINK THAT, I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE, BEN, WHEN IT COMES TO SIDEWALK DEFINITION, THE PATHS, I DIDN'T LOOK FOR IT WHEN WE WERE DOING THIS, BUT I'M NOT SURE IF THE STATE IN ONE OF THE CHAPTERS DEFINES GIVES A DEFINITION FOR SIDEWALK VERSUS THE DEFINITION OF A PATH, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK AT THAT. DO WE HAVE ANY LEISURE TRAILS OR ANYTHING THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED SHARED USE THAT WOULD BE LIKE WHITE CONCRETE IN NEW ALBANY? I FEEL LIKE MOST MOST OF THEM ARE THAT SAME COMPOSITE MATERIAL, AND MAYBE THAT COULD BE HELPFUL IN THE DEFINITION. YEAH. IF WE WERE, IF IT WAS, IF IT WAS BEING ACTED RIGHT NOW AND WE'RE GOING TO SEND OFFICERS OUT THERE, I WOULD GENERALLY ADD TO THE SIDEWALKS VERSUS THE PATHS IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE CONCRETE NARROW VERSUS THE ASPHALT THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, 5 TO 8FT. YEAH. I THINK WE NEED TO GET LIKE IN THE WEEDS WITH THE DEFINITION, JUST BROAD STROKES, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO BE EXPLAINING THIS TO KIDS. YEAH.

SO THAT MIGHT BLACK OR WHITE. YEAH. RIGHT. LIKE THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD A GOOD VISUAL DELINEATION. WELL ONE THING WE DIDN'T ADDRESS IN THIS SORT OF DICHOTOMY OF SIDEWALKS VERSUS LEISURE TRAILS IS OUR FRIENDS FROM COOPER ELIOT'S THAT BASICALLY SAID OUR SIDEWALK, WHICH IS FAR BROADER THAN FOUR FEET, IS BEING UTILIZED USING THESE VEHICLES AT EXCESSIVE SPEEDS. AND THERE I THINK THAT'S AN I MEAN, I, I SO DO WE NEED A THIRD DEFINITION. WELL, WE NEED A THIRD DEFINITION. AND I THINK WE NEED A MECHANISM TO SAY NONE OF THIS HERE. ISN'T THAT RIGHT. BUT AGAIN, ISN'T THAT JUST WHERE YOU PUT A SIGN. YEAH, I THINK I THINK THAT'S JUST WHERE YOU PUT A COUNCIL. THE COUNCIL ONE AT A TIME. FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE. AND I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT'S GOING TO DO, LIKE HOW THESE KIDS ARE GOING TO GET THEM TO THE BIKE RACK. THEY PARK THEM ACROSS THE STREET. SO NOW AT ROSE RUN, THERE'S TONS OF THEM.

THEY'RE USED BIKE LOT. YEAH. THEY THE E-BIKES. YEAH. SO THEY USE THEIR FEET TO WALK. I MEAN I'M ALL FOR COMPLETE YOU KNOW, ZERO IN PLACES LIKE, YOU KNOW TAYLOR FARM MARKET CENTER, YOU KNOW THAT ENTIRE AREA AROUND, YOU KNOW, ON THE SIDEWALKS. YEAH. ROSE, RUN LIKE WITHIN THE PARK. YEAH. I THINK WE CAN DEFINITELY DELINEATE WE SAVE DUBLIN GRANVILLE ROAD SO THEY CAN GET TO SCHOOL. BUT ACTUALLY CUTTING THROUGH ROSE RUN I THINK WE CAN SAY JUST NO GO ON VEHICLES. YEAH I THINK ON SCHOOL PROPERTY TOO. I THINK IT'S UP TO THE SCHOOL BOARD TO DECIDE IF THEY CAN WRITE IT UP TO THE SIDEWALK AND THEY WALK IT TO THE BIKE RACK. THAT'S UP TO THE SCHOOL TO DIFFERENTIATE HOW THEY WANT THAT HANDLED. DO THEY ALREADY HAVE? BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF KIDS WALKING AROUND OUT THERE AND PEOPLE RIDING E-BIKES. THAT PICTURE, YOU KNOW, JUST SHOWED THE BIKE RACK IN FRONT OF THE STADIUM. OH, I SEE IT ALL THE TIME. THAT WAS YESTERDAY. YEAH. AND THOSE ARE THE THOSE ARE THE MOTORCYCLES. YEAH. I MEAN, BUT THAT'S THAT'S NOT ON THE SCHOOL CAMPUS. THAT'S ACROSS THE STREET THAT WAS AT THE FOOTBALL STADIUM THAT WAS ROSE. NO, NO, I WITNESSED THAT TODAY. YEAH. OH YOU SAW THE SAME CONDITION.

OH YEAH. I SAW THAT EXACT PICTURE PARKED NEXT TO THE FOOTBALL STADIUM. OH, OKAY. IT WAS YESTERDAY BECAUSE TODAY THAT IS A SCHOOL. YEAH. ENFORCEMENT ISSUE. BUT I DO KNOW THAT THEY. WHERE IS THAT? I'M PRETTY SURE THAT THEY HAVE OUTLAWED THAT ON SCHOOL CAMPUS.

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SO BASICALLY A LOT OF THEM CAN BE HACKED. AND I SAW THE THE LANGUAGE IN THERE ABOUT HAVING THE DECAL THAT FROM THE MANUFACTURER THAT SHOWS, YOU KNOW, WE'VE ADDED THAT LANGUAGE IN HERE, BUT AND I COMES BACK TO ENFORCEMENT, YOU KNOW, I IT SAYS IF YOU'VE MODIFIED IT YOU HAVE TO UPDATE THE STICKER. YEAH. AND NOW YOU KNOW, SO HOW DO WE KNOW IF IT'S BEEN UPDATED.

BECAUSE YOU KNOW, THESE KIDS AREN'T GOING TO. YEAH. WELL I THINK I THINK THAT WE THE A SITUATION LIKE THAT WOULD BE THAT WHERE WE WOULD ACTUALLY TAKE ENFORCEMENT ACTION IF THAT THERE WAS A PRIMARY VIOLATION THAT WE STOPPED THEM FOR. SO LET'S SAY THAT WE STOPPED THEM FOR SPEED OR WE STOPPED THEM FOR RECKLESS DOING A WHEELIE DOWN MARKET STREET OR SOMETHING AND THEN AS WE CONDUCT THE STOP AND THE INVESTIGATION, WE MAY DISCOVER THAT. AND THAT WOULD BE LIKE A SECONDARY VIOLATION. THAT'S, AS MAYOR POINTED OUT, THAT'S ONE OF THE ONE OF THE DIFFICULT PORTIONS OF ENFORCING. I DON'T SEE THAT WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO READ THE STICKER AND THEN, OF COURSE, CORRELATE THAT STICKER WITH THE SPEED WITHOUT HAVING THAT VEHICLE STOPPED FOR SOME OTHER REASON. OKAY. THE THE OTHER THING WITH THE, WITH THE WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT IT. BUT THERE'S THEY FOR THESE DIRT BIKES THEY MAKE FAUX PEDALS SO THAT THEY'RE NOT FUNCTIONAL SO THAT PEOPLE CAN. AND WE'VE SEEN THAT WHERE THEY'VE ADDED FAUX PEDALS TO IT. AND THEN WITH THE HACKING AND THAT THERE'S EVEN EVEN WITH SOLID ORDINANCES, YOU KNOW, AND THE CHALLENGES THAT COME WITH ENFORCING THESE TYPE OF LAWS, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE WE'LL HAVE TO DEAL WITH THAT AS WELL. CAN I CAN I JUST THROW SOMETHING OUT THERE TO SEE IF MAYBE LIKE, BECAUSE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE LICENSE OR YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE, THE, THE DECAL OR WHATEVER. I WAS TALKING TO JOE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS TODAY, AND I THERE'S PROBABLY A LOT OF LEGAL REASONS THAT ARE WRONG WITH WHAT I'M ABOUT TO SAY. BUT WHAT IF WE REQUIRED EACH BIKE THAT HAD SOME SORT OF MOTORIZED FEATURE TO HAVE TO BE REGISTERED, UNDERSTOOD WHAT CLASS IT IS, AND THEN HAD LIKE A CORRESPONDING VISIBLE NUMBER ON IT? AND I THINK THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO IDENTIFY ANY BIKE THAT DIDN'T HAVE THAT RIGHT VERY QUICKLY. AND THAT IS AN IT COULD BE, IN AND OF ITSELF, A REASON TO HAVE AN ENCOUNTER. YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE AN ISSUE FOR THAT PERSON, AND THEN THERE WOULD BE SOME SORT OF CONNECTION BETWEEN THAT BIKE AND THE OPERATOR. IF THEY SAW A SPEED, THEY COULD, YOU KNOW, EASILY IDENTIFY WHAT YOU KNOW, WHAT THIS BIKE IS CAPABLE OF DOING, WHAT THIS BIKE DID, WHAT SOMEBODY SAW THE BIKE DO. YEAH. I THINK THAT AS FAR AS THE, THE LIKE THE CITYWIDE REGISTRATION, I'LL, I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THE LEGALITY. MAYBE BEN CAN TALK ABOUT THAT IN A MINUTE. THE THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE WERE GOING WITH THE BIKE WITH THE SCHOOLS. YOU KNOW, WE'RE WE'RE WE'RE WORKING WITH JOSH AND HIS TEAM TO MAKE SURE THAT WE EDUCATE THE COMMUNITY. YEAH. AND WE'RE ALSO WORKING WITH THE SCHOOLS. WE DID A EARLY IN THE YEAR. WE DID A PRESENTATION TO THE APPLICABLE GRADES. IT WAS A QUICK PRESENTATION ABOUT SAFETY AND THE LAWS THAT THEY NEED TO FOLLOW. AND THEN WE WERE GOING TO FOLLOW UP WITH WE'RE WORKING

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YEAH, I THINK SO. I JUST THINK IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE THAT ABILITY. AND MAYBE IT'S YOU DO THE REGISTRATION ON THE SCHOOL CAMPUS AND THEN THERE'S SOME SHARED RESOURCES BETWEEN THE SCHOOL AND THE CITY. SO WHERE WE CAN TRACK WHICH BIKE IS DOING THE HOP IN THE WHEELIES IN YOUR PICTURE, LIKE, WOULDN'T THAT BE GREAT TO HAVE THE THE NUMBER AND THEN BE LIKE, HEY, THIS IS YOUR KID'S BIKE, RIGHT? I JUST SAW THIS IN YOUR DRIVEWAY. STOP IT. RIGHT. WELL, THOSE THOSE BIKES ARE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE A LICENSE. NOT NOT REGISTRATION. AND YEAH, THOSE ARE THOSE ARE MOTOR VEHICLES, RIGHT? I DO I DO THINK THOUGH THAT SOME REGISTRATION NUMBER TO BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY THE NON MOTOR BIKES BECAUSE AS PEOPLE ZOOM BY CAUSE INSTANCES ON SIDEWALKS OR PATHS, WHATEVER THEY MAY BE. I THINK I'VE HAD MANY PEOPLE CALL ME WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY WHO THE KIDS WERE, BUT THEY'RE IT'S YOU CAN'T DO THAT AS THEY'RE RIDING AWAY. IF THERE'S A PLATE OR SOMETHING THAT SETS THEIR REGISTRATION, AT LEAST SOMEBODY CAN IDENTIFY IT, PHOTOGRAPH IT, WHATEVER. OTHERWISE, WE'RE CHASING EVERY KID ON A BIKE WITHOUT BEING ABLE TO IDENTIFY THEM. I COULDN'T TELL YOU THE NAMES OF EVERY KID IN THIS COMMUNITY, SO, I MEAN, YOU SHOULD HAVE A HELMET, TOO, SO. WELL, THERE'S THAT. I MEAN, THAT'S THE OTHER THING. SO SOME ABILITY TO READ, WHETHER THE SCHOOL REGISTERS THEM OR THEY HAVE TO REGISTER THEM. I DON'T THINK THAT'S A BAD IDEA, BECAUSE THEN YOU CAN IDENTIFY AT LEAST THE OWNER OF THE BIKE PERSON RESPONSIBLE. THEY LOAN IT TO THEIR BUDDY. THAT'S THEIR PROBLEM. BUT YEAH, YOU KNOW, JUST TO CLEAR. SORRY. CAN I ASK YOU A FOLLOW UP QUESTION, THOUGH? THOSE BIKES THAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT, THOSE, THEY'RE GOING TO BE MOTOR VEHICLES. THEY'RE GOING TO NEED A LICENSE. ARE THEY GOING TO BE ABLE TO BE ON THE SHARED USE PATHS, OR ARE THEY GOING TO HAVE TO GO ON THE THE NEW ORDINANCES? THEY'RE NEVER ALLOWED ON SHARED USE E-BIKES AND THE DIRT BIKES ARE NOT ALLOWED TO PASS WITH THE DIRT BIKES. WE PROBABLY NEED TO TALK ABOUT NOTICE SIGNAGE OR SOME KIND OF NOTICE THAT THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED ON THERE. I THINK THAT'S THE REQUIREMENT UNDER THE EXISTING LAW AND THE NEW DRAFT AS WELL. SO ANYTHING OVER THAT 750W IS NOT ALLOWED ON THE SHARED USE SIDEWALK. ANYTHING THEY HAVE TO GO ON THE ROAD. YEAH. YEP. SO THAT WOULD THAT WOULD THAT EVERYTHING IN THAT.

THAT'S ACTUALLY CLASS THREE ACCORDING TO THIS IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE ALSO ON THE ROAD.

IT'S STILL AT 750W. CLASS ONE AND TWO CAN. AND IF THEY'VE BEEN ALTERED TO SLOANE'S KIND OF CONCERN, IF THEY'VE BEEN ALTERED, THEY CAN GO OVER THAT 1525, WHICH THEN COULD BECOME AN ISSUE. BUT CLASS THREE'S ARE GOING TO BE ON THE ROAD. CLASS THREE REQUIRES YOU HAVE TO HAVE TO BE 16 AND YOU'VE GOT TO BE 16, 16. YOU HAVE TO HAVE WHERE'S THAT LICENSE AND REGISTER? BECAUSE I THOUGHT THAT I SAW SOMETHING. THAT OKAY, THE THE OPERATIONAL CLASS ONE OR CLASS TWO IS PERMITTED ON A PATH SET ASIDE FOR THE EXCLUSIVE USE OF BICYCLES ON A SHARED USE PATH. OKAY. AND THEY WILL HAVE TO BE LICENSED AND REGISTERED FOR THE THE E-BIKES.

NO. CLASS THREE. NO, THE CLASS THREE DOES NOT. THEY DON'T HAVE IT'S NOT A IT'S NOT A MOTOR VEHICLE. SO THEY DON'T NEED TO HAVE A LICENSE PLATE REGISTERED TO BMB OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

373105 IT'S IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PAGE OF READING COMPREHENSION SUGGESTION THAT PERHAPS A READING COMPREHENSION SUGGESTION IS TO SEPARATE THE 37305 AND IT IT IS IF YOU JUST READ IT LIKE FIVE TIMES, YOU GET IT. BUT LIKE FOR THE FIRST READ YOU MIGHT WANT TO LIKE SAY CLASS ONE, CLASS TWO PLUS THREE. LIKE THESE ARE WHAT THESE, THESE ONES CAN DO. THIS IS WHAT YOU CAN DO. AND THEN THOSE BIKES YOU'RE OUT OF HERE. I THINK THAT THE IDEA OF REGISTERING THEM PART OF THE REGISTRATION, I THINK, IS TO IDENTIFY AS THIS CLASS 1234X9B, WHATEVER THEY MAY BE. AND THE OWNER OF IT IS GOING TO KNOW THAT I'M A ONE, 2 OR 3 AND OUR, OUR AT LEAST OUR GUIDELINES SAY WHERE YOU CAN RIDE IT. SO SOMEBODY CAN'T SAY, GEE, I DIDN'T KNOW I WAS A ONE, 2 OR 3. WHEN YOU REGISTER IT, PART OF THE REGISTRATION SHOULD BE WHAT

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THEY DON'T NEED ANY OF THAT. I THINK THE THE CONFUSION IS, IS THAT IN TALKING ABOUT THE DIRT BIKES, JUST TAKE THOSE OUT FOR A MINUTE. THOSE ARE NOT ANY NO ITERATION. THERE'S NO E-BIKE.

RIGHT. THESE ARE 750 OR UNDER. RIGHT. SO THESE E-BIKES THAT THE CLASS THREE IS IS AS FAR AS BEING ON THE ROAD. THEY'RE JUST LIKE A BICYCLE. THEY DON'T YOU DON'T NEED A DRIVER'S LICENSE.

YOU DON'T NEED PLATES. YOU DON'T NEED ANY OTHER REQUIREMENTS BECAUSE OF THEIR ADDITIONAL SPEED AND AND POWER AND THE AGE REQUIREMENT FOR BEING ON A CLASS THREE, WE FELT COMFORTABLE MOVING THEM TO THE ROAD. WHERE TO WHAT YOU GUYS WERE TALKING ABOUT EARLIER IS THAT THE 12 YEAR OLDS AND STUFF LIKE THAT, WE WEREN'T COMFORTABLE MOVING THEM TO THE ROAD AS WELL AND LEAVING THEM ON THE LEISURE TRAIL, WHICH IS THE CLASS ONE AND TWO THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT. THE LABELING FOR THE ONE, TWO AND THREE. IT'S JUST SUPPOSED TO BE A LABEL ON THERE, ONE, 2 OR 3 FROM THE MANUFACTURER. BUT AS CHIEF SAID, THAT, AND ALSO JUST FROM A FROM A MORE ON THE ROAD TYPE OF SITUATION. WE'VE LOOKED AT A LOT OF THESE E-BIKES AND WE HAVE YET TO FIND THIS, THIS STICKER SOMEWHERE OBVIOUS THAT THAT GIVES US THAT INFORMATION.

WE'RE NOT SURE IF IT'S THEY THEY'VE PROBABLY IT'S, YOU KNOW, INCLUDED IN THE PACKAGING. YEAH.

SO WE WE STICK IT ON IF YOU WANT. I WENT INTO IT THINKING THAT WE WOULD WALK UP AND LIKE ON THE, ON THE, THE, THE STEM THAT THE SEAT SITS ON, THERE'D BE THIS BIG OLD STICKER AND I CAN'T FIND IT. THE SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS WHO DEAL WITH THIS EVERY DAY, THEY HAVEN'T FOUND ONE. SO IT'S IT'S A LITTLE TRICKIER. WE DID WE'RE WORKING WITH THE SCHOOLS AND OUR DRAFT REGISTRATION FORM THAT WE'RE WORKING ON. IT DOES INCLUDE THAT CLASS ONE, 2 OR 3 AT THIS POINT. AND BUT IT'S IT'S CERTAINLY NOT LAID OUT AS WELL AS I READ IN THE, IN THE FEDERAL AND THE STATE AND, AND NOW OUR LOCAL DRAFT REQUIREMENTS FOR THESE, THESE DECALS. SO AGAIN, JUST TO GO THROUGH THE DIFFERENT CLASSES, WHAT WE'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT IS SPEED CAPABILITY. YEAH. BUT AT THE SAME CONTEXT OUR WHOLE CONVERSATION IS AROUND SAFE OPERATION. SO IF I HAVE A CLASS THREE VEHICLE IN MY 14 YEAR OLDS DRIVING DOWN THE SHARED USE PATH AT 12 MILES AN HOUR, EVEN THOUGH THEY COULD GO 30. YEAH. AND THEY'RE OPERATING VEHICLE IN A SAFE AND PRUDENT MANNER. WE'RE NOT GOING TO ALLOW THAT ACTIVITY. WELL, AGAIN, THIS IS JUST A DRAFT. AND AND AGAIN, THIS WAS A LOT OF THIS WAS TAKEN TO MIRROR THE STATE CODE. SO BUT I UNLESS BEN FINDS THERE'S A LEGAL REASON, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WANTED TO GET FEEDBACK ON AND WHAT KIND OF CHANGES. BY NO MEANS ARE WE LIKE, HEY, WE PERFECTED THIS. THIS IS NEVER A BETTER LAW THAN WRITTEN. SO ALL THE FEEDBACK THAT THAT WE'RE GETTING ARE ALL GOOD POINTS. AND WE CAN CERTAINLY MODIFY THAT. WE'RE WE'RE AGAIN EVEN THE SPEED LIMIT. YOU KNOW, WE WE KIND OF MIRRORED WHAT WE SEE IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT OTHER CITIES AND STATES. AS FAR AS SPEED LIMITS GO, THIS DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A LIVING DOCUMENT AS WELL, BECAUSE AS THINGS CHANGE AND TECHNOLOGY. EXACTLY. THIS IS BASICALLY DOING I MEAN, I WAS THINKING THE CLASS THREES WOULD WHEN I WAS SAYING THAT THAT THEY SHOULD BE OFF THE ROADS. I MEAN, THIS IS BASICALLY DOING THAT. ANYTHING THAT'S GOING TO GO OVER THE ABLE TO GO OVER 15 MILES AN HOUR, ARE WE GOOD WITH 15 MILES AN HOUR ON LEISURE PATH, AS LONG AS THEY HAVE A SIGNAL ON THEIR. YEAH, I THINK IT'S HARD. I USUALLY RIDE THAT BASICALLY ON MY BIKE. HOW DO YOU, HOW DO YOU DIFFERENTIATE 12 MILES. 15 MILES OR 23? YEAH.

YOU'RE ON THE STREET NOW. YEAH. I MEAN 15 IS FAST. THAT'S SOMEBODY THAT LIVES IN MY HOUSE THAT KIND OF PERUSE THE ORDINANCE SAID THEY THOUGHT 15 WAS A LITTLE EXCESSIVE. 15 IS PRETTY FAST. IT'S ALSO A SPEED THAT YOU COULD RECOGNIZE AS A PERSON GO, OKAY, THAT WAS

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MAKES SENSE. BUT I'D SAY OUR LEISURE PATHS ARE PRIMARILY PEDESTRIANS THAT AREN'T ON. SO I WOULD BE OKAY WITH TEN. YEAH. IF YOU'RE IF YOU WANT TO RIDE 15 AND YOU'RE ON A BIKE, YOU CAN BE ON THE ROAD, I LIKE TEN. I'D BE MORE COMFORTABLE WITH TEN. SO I THINK THAT MAKES A LITTLE BIT EASIER TO ENFORCE. YOU KNOW, 15 IS AMBIGUOUS AND TEN IS TEN SLOW. TEN SLOW. YEAH.

SO CHIEF, WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT AN EDUCATION EFFORT, WHICH I KNOW THAT YOU'VE ALREADY STARTED IN EARNEST WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, AGAIN, FOCUSING ON THE KIDS THAT ARE UTILIZING THESE VEHICLES. THERE WAS DISCUSSION ABOUT SOME, YOU KNOW. PROCESS WHERE WE WOULD HAND OUT BELLS TO PUT ON HANDLEBARS. I KNOW A LOT OF BIKE RIDERS THAT RIDE ON PATHS USUALLY HAVE THOSE BELLS, AND IT'S FAIRLY EFFECTIVE IN ALERTING PEOPLE THAT YOU'RE ABOUT TO PASS. WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT, I THINK. I THINK THE PRICE WAS WAS PRETTY CHEAP FOR THOSE. THE SRO SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS KIND OF TOOK THE WIND OUT OF MY SAILS ON THAT ONE.

THEY WERE WALKING AROUND THE BIKE RACKS AND FOUND THAT THE VAST MAJORITY ALREADY HAD THEM, AND LOOKING ONLINE, MOST OF THEM ALREADY HAVE THEM. WE CAN CERTAINLY KEEP A STOCK THAT AS A YOU KNOW, THERE MIGHT BE SOME THAT WANT THE EXTRA, EXTRA BELL OR WHATEVER TYPE THAT WE GET, OR FOR ONES THAT DON'T HAVE THEM, WHICH I DON'T THINK ARE MANY, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT AS WELL. THAT WOULD BE SCOOTERS AS WELL AS BIKES, SCOOTERS AND BIKES. CORRECT? OKAY. YEP. SO DID YOU HAVE A PRESENTATION, CHIEF? YEAH, I I'M ARE YOU. LET'S DO THE PRESENTATION. TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, I THOUGHT IT'D BE A LOT SHORTER THAN THIS, BUT I WAS GOING TO HAVE A DEMONSTRATION RIDING. WHAT'S TEN MILES? WHAT'S 15? YEAH. GOOD NEWS.

THERE'S ONLY. THERE'S ONLY 150 MORE SLIDES TO GO. SO. SO WE GOT NOWHERE TO BE. SO I THINK I LEFT OFF WITH THE THE PATHS. SO 37313 IS BASICALLY THIS IS THE LAST ONE. THERE'S NOT REALLY 150 SLIDES BUT IT ADDS E-BIKES AND POWERED SCOOTERS TO THE HELMET REQUIREMENT THAT WE ALREADY HAVE. IF YOU'RE UNDER THE AGE OF 18 AND IT PROHIBITS HAVING A PASSENGER UNDER THE AGE OF 18 AS WELL. SO THAT'S THE ORDINANCES, I THINK. I THINK THAT WE CAN TAKE BACK THE TAKE THE INPUT AND MAYBE MAKE SOME CHANGES OR, OR SO WHEN IT SAYS PROHIBITS PASSENGERS UNDER THE AGE OF 18. SO IF THERE'S A KID ON A SCOOTER AND THEY HAVE THE FRAME ON THE BACK OF THE SCOOTER, THEY'RE NO LONGER ABLE TO WRITE SCOOTERS, EVEN ALLOW TWO PEOPLE. I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU GET A PASSENGER ON A SCOOTER, BUT I I'VE SEEN IT, I'VE SEEN IT. THESE KIDS ARE TALENTED. THE. YEAH. YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT THE I THINK THAT IT HAD E-BIKES POWER SCOOTERS TO THE REQUIREMENT. AND I THINK THAT ALSO THAT WOULD APPLY AS FAR AS THE PASSENGERS GO THAT YOU THAT THE E-BIKE INVOLVES SCOOTERS. AND IF I RECALL THE THE LONGER ORDINANCES IS THAT YOU CAN'T HAVE A PASSENGER ON A E-BIKE THAT WASN'T DESIGNED TO HAVE A PASSENGER. SO NO HANDLEBAR RIDING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. OH YEAH. SO YEAH, I, I THINK THAT ALL THE POINTS THAT YOU'RE MAKING AND THE CHANGES AND ALL THE COMMENTS AND I THINK YOU'VE ALL BEEN GOOD TO WHAT WE WANT TO ACCOMPLISH. I THINK WE, WE, WE DO WANT TO GET IT IN PLACE, I THINK TO AN EARLY PRESENTATION. WE DON'T WANT AN ACCIDENT TO HAPPEN BEFORE THIS GETS DONE.

AND WE OBVIOUSLY LIKE IT SOONER THAN LATER. AND I KNOW WE HAVE OUR READING IN TWO WEEKS.

TYPICALLY THERE'S A 30 DAY WAITING PERIOD. WE CAN DISCUSS IT THEN, BUT I LOOK TO WAIVE A 30 DAY WAITING PERIOD IF IT'S AN WHATEVER WE ENACT AND JUST PUT IT INTO EFFECT. I THINK IT'S ALSO EQUALLY IMPORTANT IN TERMS OF BEGINNING TO EDUCATE THE COMMUNITY AS TO WHAT THESE CHANGES ARE, BOTH FOR THE PEDESTRIANS AND THE PARENTS OF THE KIDS THAT OWN THESE BIKES.

I THINK WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THE RULES ARE HELP TO ENFORCE, BUT IT'S HOPEFULLY TO MODIFY BEHAVIOR. YEAH, IT'S INCREDIBLY HARD TO MODIFY BEHAVIOR ON A UNDER 15 YEAR OLD, EVEN A BELOVED. BUT I THINK THAT LOOKING BACK AT MY AGES BACK THEN, IF I WAS ON A SCOOTER LIKE THIS OR A BIKE, GOD KNOWS THAT I'D PROBABLY NOT BE HERE TODAY. BUT CHANGING BEHAVIOR ON THESE KIDS IS GOING TO. I MEAN, WE CAN START WITH LEGISLATIONS, BUT IT'S ALSO GOING TO FALL ON

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IT'S TOO BAD YOUR KIDS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO KNOW, AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO NOT RELY JUST ON THE SCHOOLS AND THE OFFICERS TO TEACH THEM. BUT THE PARENTS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO EDUCATE THESE KIDS AND HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE. WELL, THAT IS WHAT WORRIES ME ABOUT HAVING A QUICK I MEAN, I WOULD LOVE TO GET THESE DONE RIGHT AWAY, BUT IF IF WE DON'T HAVE ANY NOTICE, PERIOD, I GUESS, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T NECESSARILY NEED TO ENFORCE THE NEXT DAY, BUT THIS SEEMS LIKE SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO REALLY NEED TO KNOW ABOUT. AND I THINK THAT MAYBE WE CAN GET OUT AHEAD OF IT AND DO A LOT OF PRESS BETWEEN NOW AND THE TIME THAT WE VOTE. I AGREE, I THINK WE SHOULD, BUT WITHOUT THAT, I FEEL A LITTLE WARY OF NOT HAVING ANY NOTICE PERIOD BEFORE ENFORCEMENT. AND THAT KIND OF GOES THAT SPEAKS TO THAT KIND OF THAT MULTI LEGGED APPROACH. WORK WITH THE SCHOOLS, THE LEGISLATION AND THEN JOSH AND MYSELF AND BEN HAVE MET AND AND I THINK JOSH IS READY TO SEND OUT. AN E-BLAST AND THEN ALSO HAVE IT ON THE WEBSITE. BUT I THINK THAT THAT WAS PART OF IT, THAT THIS EDUCATION, YOU KNOW, THE SCHOOLS DO THE SCHOOLS, WE CAN PROBABLY DO QUITE A BIT WITH THE STUDENTS, BUT THE PARENTS THAT ARE BUYING THESE ARE MAY NOT KNOW AS WELL. SO WE HAVE TO EDUCATE THE COMMUNITY AS WELL. SO WE WE SHOULD START NOW. JUST LETTING THEM KNOW THAT LEGISLATION IS COMING. THE STAY TUNED. SO THEY'RE YOU KNOW, THE MORE WE CAN GET OUT THAT THIS IS CHANGE IS COMING AND BE AWARE THAT IT'S COMING SOON. SO YEAH, YEAH, YEAH IT'S GOING TO PROBABLY CHANGE A LOT OF CHRISTMAS SHOPPING LISTS ONCE THIS ORDINANCE OUT, BECAUSE THE E-BIKES MAY NOT BE AS POPULAR.

IT'S YEAH I, I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE SOURCES OF ALL THESE BIKES ARE, BUT IF THERE'S TWO OR 3 OR 4 BIKE SHOPS THAT SELL A LOT OF THESE IN THE COMMUNITY, I THINK A VISIT FROM NO, I DON'T AMAZON, AMAZON, I BUY A SINGLE ONE IN NEW ALBANY. REALLY? OKAY, THAT SOLVES THAT QUESTION. YEAH.

ONLY I MEAN, I'D EDUCATE THEM. I THINK SHOW SLIDES WAS WALMART RIGHT? YEAH. OKAY. YOU CAN GO YOU CAN GO ANYWHERE AND GET. YEAH. OKAY. SO I DO THINK THAT EDUCATION OF THE PARENTS AND THE KIDS AND PEDESTRIANS TO KNOW THAT WE ARE TAKING ACTION, I THINK IS IMPORTANT. AND I KNOW JOSH HAS SAID THIS, BUT PROBABLY THE BIGGEST COMMUNICATION CHALLENGE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE FOR A WHILE, ONE OF THEM. YEAH, I JUST I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE A UNIFIED MESSAGE.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE ARE PREPARED TO DO THAT UNTIL WE SETTLE IN ON THIS ACTUAL ORDINANCE. AS FAR AS THE CLASS ONE, TWO, THREE, IF WE WANT TO GET AHEAD OF THE GAME WITH THE THE DIRT VEHICLES, WE COULD START THAT MESSAGING AND GIVE A GRACE PERIOD AND SAY, OKAY, THESE NEED TO BE REGISTERED BY A CERTAIN TIME PERIOD. YOU HAVE TO BE 16 YEAR OLDS TO OPERATE THESE OR YOU CAN'T OPERATE THEM ANYMORE. I THINK THAT MESSAGE CAN GO SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.

YEAH, BUT I WOULD LIKE A A PERIOD AND THEN ONCE IT ROLLS OUT BAM, THERE'S GOING TO BE YOU KNOW KIND OF CHIEFS MISSION FOR A WEEK OR TWO IS ENFORCEMENT AND JUST KIND OF GO GREAT GUNS TO START WITH TO GET THE MESSAGE OUT AND ISSUE A TON OF WARNINGS AND SAY, THIS IS THE NEW REGULATION. AND I THINK SET THIS THE TONE. AND THAT'S WHY I DON'T WANT THIS TO KIND OF JUST LEAK OUT. I WANT IT TO BE, YOU KNOW, COORDINATED AND HOLISTIC. I THINK THAT'S WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE. AND THE AS FAR AS WHEN THE LAW IS ENACTED, WE GENERALLY WHEN THERE'S A NEW TRAFFIC LIGHT PUT UP OR THERE'S A SPEED LIMIT CHANGE, WE GENERALLY GIVE A MONTH OR TWO OF ALL WARNINGS. SO WE THOUGHT THE SAME THING. AND ALSO BASICALLY A BLITZ TO TO ENFORCE THIS. I HOPE I'M BEING ACCURATE. NOT TOO OPTIMISTIC, BUT I THINK GENERALLY WHEN AN OFFICER STOPS THEM AND GIVES THEM A WARNING AND THE SRO'S IN PARTICULAR, THEY KNOW THESE KIDS THAT THEY WILL GAIN COMPLIANCE MAYBE A LITTLE BETTER THAN THAN MAYBE I WOULD HAVE BEEN WHEN I WAS A KID. SO YEAH, YEAH. THE OTHER THING. SO THE IF YOU I THINK WE GO BACK AND WE'LL WORK ON ON SOME OF THE CHANGES. WHEN YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT REGISTRATION, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE SCHOOL REGISTRATION THAT WE HAD PLANNED OR. I'M TALKING ABOUT THE, THE MOTOR VEHICLE DIRT.

OKAY, OKAY. WHO'S GOING TO REGISTER THOSE IS THAT THEY DON'T NEED TO BE REGISTERED. SO

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THEY DO MAKE ONES THAT ARE SOLD AS ROAD LEGAL. ONE OF THE PROBLEMS THEY HAVE WITH THOSE SOLD AS ROAD LEGAL, WHICH I'VE NOT SEEN A LOT OF HERE, IS THAT THEY TYPICALLY DON'T HAVE A VIN.

SO GETTING ONE REGISTERED FOR PLATES IN THE STATE OF OHIO IS A LITTLE DIFFICULT. I DON'T KNOW THAT I'VE NOT HEARD OF ANYBODY SUCCESSFULLY DOING IT. SO ESSENTIALLY, SINCE THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED ON THE ROAD, IT REQUIRES A MOTORCYCLE ENDORSEMENT. AND ANY OF THESE 12 YEAR OLDS RIDING THEM. THERE'S A NUMBER OF REASONS BETWEEN THE BIKE AND THE RIDER THAT THESE SHOULD NOT BE ON THE ROAD, AND WITH ENFORCEMENT, THEY SHOULD DISAPPEAR FROM THE ROADS. GENERALLY SPEAKING, THE MORE GRAY AREA IS THE PASS. A LOT OF THE REQUIREMENTS THAT TO BE ON THE ROAD ARE PRETTY CLEAR, BUT THE PATHS TO TO OUTLAW THOSE WILL REQUIRE SOME TYPE OF SIGNAGE OR NOTICE OR POSTING. TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE YEARS AGO. BUT MOTOR VEHICLES AREN'T ALLOWED ON ANY PATHS. WELL, EVER. CORRECT HOWEVER, BUT IT REQUIRES OUR ORDINANCE REQUIRES A A SIGN THAT'S BEING POSTED ON THE PATH. SO TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE, WE RAN INTO THIS. THIS IS REALLY NOT BEEN THAT BIG OF AN ISSUE UNTIL THIS CAME UP. SO YEARS AGO THERE WAS A SECURITY COMPANY DRIVING VEHICLES, A CAR ON THE PATH. WE HAD A RESIDENT FOR SOME REASON PREFERRED TO RIDE ON THE PATH, DRIVE ON THE PATH FOR A SHORT DISTANCE. LIKE A A CAR. REALLY? WELL, WHEN WE STOPPED, WHEN WE WE GOT CALLS ON THESE, WE STOPPED THEM AND TALKED TO THEM. AND WHEN THE OFFICERS LOOKED IT UP, WE WERE KIND OF WE HAD TO BASICALLY ASK THEM NOT TO BECAUSE IF YOU READ THE ORDINANCE, THEY'RE REQUIRED. IT'S THE THE BANNING OF MOTOR VEHICLES AND WHAT OTHER WHATEVER OTHER VEHICLES THERE ARE REQUIRE SIGNAGE OR POSTING OF IT. SO WE DON'T HAVE THOSE.

AND IN THE PAST, YOU KNOW, THE THE SQUEEZE WASN'T WORTH THE JUICE BECAUSE WE DIDN'T REALLY HAVE A PROBLEM AS MUCH AS WE'RE HAVING NOW. BUT I THINK AS FAR AS THESE DIRT BIKES, I THINK THAT TO TO TAKE THAT GRAY AREA OUT FOR THE FOR THE PATHS, IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE SOME TYPE OF SIGNAGE TO GIVE NOTICE AS PER THE ORDINANCE. SO COULD I RIDE MY CAR HOME ON THE ON THE LEISURE PATHS TONIGHT? YEAH. SO YOU WILL WE'LL GET CALLS ABOUT IT. YOU'LL GET CALLS ABOUT IT AND IT WILL MY CAR BECAUSE I WILL CALL YOU OR SHOW UP AT YOUR HOUSE AND ASK YOU, HEY, LOOK, WE'RE NOT CITING YOU FOR YOU KNOW WHAT? WE REALLY CAN'T WITH THE WAY THE ORDINANCE IS RIGHT NOW OR WHETHER FOR THE LACK OF OF POSTING. BUT WE BUT WE WOULD CERTAINLY. AND WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST IS ASK YOU NOT TO DRIVE YOUR CAR IN THE PAST. COULD WE PUT THAT IN THE ORDINANCE, THOUGH, THAT YOU CAN'T HAVE? CAN WE JUST SAY NO MOTOR VEHICLE, MOTOR VEHICLE, LEISURE PATHS OR SIDEWALKS? WELL, I THINK THAT I, I THINK WE CAN SAY THAT BECAUSE I THINK WE HAVE A LOT OF LATITUDE ON WHAT YOU CAN BAN, BUT I THINK THAT THE REQUIREMENT THAT YOU HAVE IS THE POSTING PART YOU HAVE TO TALK ABOUT. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PUT UP SIGNS IN A LOT OF PLACES AS A RESULT OF ALL THIS. SO I THINK THAT ADRIAN, WHICHEVER DEPARTMENT, I THINK THEY HAVE TO START WORKING ON LANGUAGE AND FIGURING OUT HOW MANY YOU GOT ORDERED. YEAH. YEAH, I THINK IT'S I MEAN, I THINK THAT CHECKS A LOT OF BOXES, NOT JUST FOR VEHICLES, BUT. YEAH, GOLF CARTS. YEAH. RIGHT. EXACTLY. YEAH. PATHS EITHER. EXACTLY. SO IF WE JUST BAN MOTOR VEHICLES FROM ALL SIDEWALKS AND LEISURE PATHS. SO I WANT TO SEE YOU DRIVING YOUR SUBURBAN ON THE CART PATH TONIGHT. I DIDN'T DRIVE THE MINIVAN BECAUSE I JUST I DON'T LOVE THE IDEA OF WHAT? HOW MANY DO WE HAVE? 70 MILES OF LEISURE PATH NOW. YEAH, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I DON'T LOVE THE IDEA OF HAVING TO POST SIGNS ON 70 MILES OF LEISURE PATH IN FORCE. YEAH. AND JUST. AND DON'T FORGET TO SOME OF THOSE LEISURE TRAILS. ALTHOUGH THEY ARE OBVIOUSLY CONNECTED AND A GREAT AMENITY FOR THE COMMUNITY, NOT ALL OF THE LEISURE TRAILS ARE CITY LEISURE TRAILS. YEAH, THEY MIGHT BE PART OF THE COUNTRY CLUB OR HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION OR GOLF COURSE, SO THAT COULD GET A LITTLE PROBLEMATIC. ALL RIGHT.

THE POSTING PART OR THE ORDINANCE PART. THE ORDINANCE PART. I MEAN, AGAIN, THERE COULD BE CONFUSION, SORT OF CONFUSION IN THE MARKETPLACE. AM I ON THE CITY PATH? AM I ON THE GOLF COURSE PATH? RIGHT. SO RIGHT NOW THE ORDINANCE DISTINGUISHES GOLF COURSE CART PATHS THAT SO THAT THAT WAS CARVED OUT TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS PROTECTED. SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN AGAIN, WE CAN TRY TO ACHIEVE. AND I CAN GET TOGETHER AND TRY TO SOLVE THAT PROBLEM ABOUT THE SIGNAGE REQUIREMENTS. SEE IF WE COME UP WITH. MR. RUBY. QUESTION. I THINK SAME THING. THE MAJORITY OF THE SIDEWALKS ARE IN PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY. THE GENTLEMAN FROM ELLIOTT COOPER TALKED ABOUT THE SIDEWALK. THAT'S NOT THAT'S ACTUALLY ON PRIVATE PROPERTY. MANY OF THE LEISURE PATHS, AS YOU MENTIONED, ARE IN PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY, BUT A LOT

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THE CITY CAN ENFORCE APPROPRIATELY WHETHER IT'S PRIVATE PROPERTY OR PUBLIC.

RIGHT. YEAH, I THINK THAT I GUESS FROM MY PERSPECTIVE IS THAT IS THAT SOMETHING WE CAN DO LEGALLY OR OR ARE WE LIMITED TO JUST THE RIGHT OF WAY? WE'LL WE'LL DISCUSS THAT ONE. YEAH.

OKAY. SO AS LONG AS WE'RE CHANGING THE ORDINANCE, DO WE, CAN WE TOUCH ON THE POSTING REQUIREMENT. BUT WE HAVE TO POST. YEAH. REGULATIONS. CAN WE LOOK. WELL YEAH. SO IN IN JUST REMOVING THAT IT HAS TO BE POSTED TO BE ENFORCED. BUT WE CAN WE CAN CERTAINLY REMOVE THAT. ONE OF THE ISSUES WE I MEAN THEN THE NOTICE ISSUE COMES UP AND BECOMES A BIGGER ISSUE. SO THERE'S CERTAINLY SOME I WOULD SAY BENEFIT TO HAVING THINGS POSTED. I THINK WE CAN DO BOTH. YEAH. 100 IN HIGH TRAFFIC AREA RIGHT IN PLACES WHERE WE REALLY WANT TO ENFORCE IT. BUT I DO LOVE THE IDEA OF A BLANKET. NO, THERE'S NO AMBIGUITY. YEAH. YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE ON. YOU KNOW, ANDREW IS NOT DRIVING HOME ON TONIGHT. YEAH. I THINK AS TO LIKE ANDREW DRIVING DOWN THE SHARED USE PATH, WE COULD PROBABLY TAKE CARE OF THAT ONE A LOT MORE EASILY THAN WE SMILE OR, YOU KNOW, EVERY MILE OF LEISURE TRAIL YOU POSTED THAT WOULD JUST BE THAT WOULD NOT LOOK GOOD THOUGH. NO. BUT LIKE I SAID, I THINK WE CAN POST IT IN TAYLOR FARM. WE CAN POST IT AROUND MARKET CENTER. DEFINITELY POST IT THERE. BUT THE IN WHEN WE SHARE THE, YOU KNOW, THE CHANGES TO THE ORDINANCE BECAUSE I DO THINK, YOU KNOW THE QUESTION HAS COME UP WITH GOLF CARTS ON LEISURE PATHS. AND IT'S ALWAYS BEEN THE SAME ANSWER FROM CHIEF REGARDING A VEHICLE. I MEAN I DIDN'T KNOW YOU COULD DRIVE A VEHICLE ON A LEISURE PATH UNTIL TONIGHT. I THINK EVERYBODY AT HOME LISTENING IS DON'T DO IT RIGHT. I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS ABOUT POSTING OUTSIDE RIGHT NOW, RIGHT, I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS ABOUT POSTING IS LIKE A PUSH COME TO SHOVE ON THE LEISURE TRAIL. WE ISSUE A CITATION, PERSON CAN TEST IT. THE PROBLEM WE HAVE WITH NO POSTING IS AND I'VE SEEN THIS MYSELF IN OTHER SITUATIONS NOT RELATED TO TRAFFIC OR OR OUR SCOOTERS, BUT THE THE LACK OF NOTICE WHEN YOU GO TO COURT IS GENERALLY GOING TO BE A PROBLEM, AND YOU'RE NOT GOING TO YOU'RE NOT GOING TO END WELL. SO WHAT I MEAN, WHAT'S THAT ARGUMENT THOUGH? SORRY TO BELABOR THIS POINT, BUT I MEAN, IGNORANCE OF THE LAW TYPICALLY ISN'T A WINNING ARGUMENT IF IF WE FOLLOW THE RULES OF WHAT WE NEED TO PROVIDE NOTICE FOR TO PASS THE ORDINANCE, SHOULDN'T THAT BE ENFORCEABLE EVEN IF THEY DIDN'T KNOW THE LAW? YEAH, I THINK THAT I GUESS I ASSOCIATE IT WITH LIKE ROADS THAT DON'T HAVE POSTED SPEED LIMITS OR PRIME FASCIA. 55 I HAVE BEEN THERE. I GUESS I'M SPEAKING FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCE. I WAS ON THE ROAD, SO YOU KNOW, BUT IF YOU SAY, OH, I DIDN'T KNOW THIS WAS A CONSTRUCTION ZONE, RIGHT? RIGHT.

SPEED LIMIT OR RESIDENTIAL THE SAME WAY. BUT I THINK IF YOU HAVE IF YOU TAKE A ROAD THAT'S, THAT'S LIKE A COUNTY ROAD AND IT'S PRIMA FACIE 55 AND THEN YOU LOWER IT TO, LET'S SAY 35.

YEAH. I THINK IF YOU WROTE SOMEBODY A TICKET FOR THE 35 WITHOUT THE NOTICE, THAT'S THE KIND OF THING YOU'RE GOING TO RUN INTO A PROBLEM WHERE THE WHERE THE COURT WOULD SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, THAT'S FINE IF YOU LOWERED THE SPEED LIMIT, BUT YOU HAVE TO PROVIDE SOME KIND OF NOTICE. SO WHAT'S THE NOTICE THAT THEY NEED LIKE A, LIKE A SIGN? I THINK THAT IT'S STILL ONE OF ADRIAN'S IDEAS BECAUSE I THINK SHE HAS MORE TO TALK ABOUT. BUT WHEN IT COMES TO SPEED LIMIT, SHE SUGGESTED INSTEAD OF PUTTING SIGNS UP, THIS IS OBVIOUSLY JUST A SPEED LIMIT, BUT MAYBE PUTTING SPEED LIMIT ON THE PATHS PAINTED ON THE PATHS. AND AND BEN FELT THAT WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE. I THINK SHE HAS SOME MORE INFORMATION ABOUT SIGNAGE. SHE MIGHT, I WOULD SAY BEING IN LONDON THIS PAST SUMMER, THE PARKS DON'T ALLOW ANY ELECTRIC MOTORIZED VEHICLES AND THEY HAVE RIGHT ON THE SIDEWALK ENTRANCES INTO THESE PAINTED NOT ALLOWED, NOT PERMITTED. AND THEY HAVE A SIGN PERIODICALLY THROUGHOUT. SO WHETHER IT'S AN ENTRY POINT OR AT DIFFERENT INTERVALS, IT'S MADE PRETTY CLEAR. SO AND I THINK ONCE PEOPLE LEARN IT, THEY'LL UNDERSTAND IT. AND I THINK THEN YOU CAN SATISFY THE ISSUE OF

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ONE AND TWO CAN BE ON THE PASS OR SHARED, BUT IT'S NO MAXIMUM TEN MILES PER HOUR OKAY. AND I'M COMFORTABLE COMING BACK IN TWO WEEKS IF POSSIBLE. DO WE HAVE TO MAKE A MOTION TO WAIVE THE 30 DAY? NOT TONIGHT. THAT WOULD BE NICE. THAT WOULD BE OKAY OKAY. AND SIGNAGE. YOU ALSO WANT TO LOOK AT SIGNAGE ABOUT MOTOR VEHICLES OKAY. YEAH. AND I DO I MEAN IF YOU CAN FIGURE OUT A WAY TO DO IT I'D LIKE TO EXPLORE A BLANKET. NO MOTORIZED VEHICLES ON LEISURE PLANS. OKAY. LAST THREE ARE ALL MOTOR VEHICLES. ANY MOTOR VEHICLES? MOTOR MOTOR VEHICLES.

YES, WE WE ALREADY HAVE THAT. IT'S JUST WE WE CAN DO THAT TOMORROW IF THERE IF THERE WAS A POSTING SO WE'RE IT WON'T WE WON'T NEED TO ADD ANYTHING TO THE ORDINANCE. JUST POSTING IT WILL ALLOW US TO DO THAT. I THINK WHERE WE WITHOUT POSTING I WANT TO EXPLORE WITHOUT POSTING. I WANT TO SUPERSEDE THE WE CAN POST AS WELL, BUT I LOVE IT. A LEVEL OKAY ABOVE THAT WHERE WE WOULDN'T NECESSARILY NEED TO POST IT. OKAY. BECAUSE YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO BELABOR IT, BUT FOR EVERY TWO MILES, BEST PRACTICE, LIKE A LOT OF FOLKS JUMP ON THE LEISURE PATH AND ARE ON IT FOR A QUARTER MILE AND JUMP OFF. SO I JUST DON'T KNOW HOW MANY POSTINGS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GET THE MESSAGE ACROSS TO IN A NEIGHBORHOOD TYPE SETTING FOR THESE LEISURE PATHS. YEAH, THEY'RE ON THEM OR NOT. THEY'RE GOING TO SEE THEM IF THEY'RE EVERY MILE, EVERY TWO MILE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GOING TO EVENTUALLY COME ACROSS THEM.

AND IF YOU NEED A VIDEO OF SOMEBODY RIDING A BIKE SLOW, I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE COUNCIL MEMBER KEST FOR THAT. YOU CAN CLOCK IN AND BUT THEY GOT PLENTY OF FOOTAGE OF US PEDALING. EXACTLY. YOU JUST HAVE TO PUT IT IN SLOW MOTION. DO. AND THEN AS FAR AS THE SPEED GOES. 15 OR OR LOWER. WHERE DID WE LAND ON TEN, TEN? OR ARE WE GOING TO BE LIKE A NEIGHBORHOOD IN LIKE THE VILLAGES IN FLORIDA, 8.6 MILES AN HOUR? WELL, AND CHIEF, I MEAN, I, I WOULD HOPE THAT YOU AND THE CITY ATTORNEY WOULD TAKE SOME TIME RESEARCHING 10 TO 15 AND WHAT THE PLUSES AND MINUSES OF EACH OF THOSE ARE. THAT'S A MORE REASONABLE, MEASURED APPROACH. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK AND EFFORT AND PULLING ALL THIS TOGETHER. IT'S NOT EASY. WE UNDERSTAND THAT. ALL RIGHT. GOOD. ALL RIGHT. ANY ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL REGARDING THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE. THEN WE'LL GO AHEAD AND SET THAT FOR SECOND READING AT OUR MEETING ON OCTOBER 30TH. I KNOW I WAS SMART ENOUGH TO TAKE A SMALL BREAK. DOES ANYONE ELSE NEED A BREAK BEFORE WE GO TO THE NEXT ORDINANCE OR MAYOR SPALDING TO? I MIGHT HAVE MISHEARD. WHEN ARE WE COMING BACK FOR SECOND READING ON THAT? I'M SORRY, WHAT WAS THE DATE? I THINK IT'S OCTOBER 2121. SORRY. OKAY, I HEARD 30, AND I JUST FOR THE RECORD, THANK YOU FOR CORRECTING THAT THE 21ST, I THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL THE WRONG

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ORDINANCE OH 41 2025 ORDINANCE TO APPROVE THE FINAL PLAT FOR 56 SINGLE FAMILY LOTS ON 19.21 PLUS OR MINUS ACRES AND ACCEPT RESERVE C1, F2, J, AND K FOR PHASE TWO OF THE COURTYARDS AT HAYNES CREEK SUBDIVISION, GENERALLY LOCATED AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF CENTRAL COLLEGE ROAD AND JUG STREET INTERSECTION, AS REQUESTED BY HAYNES CREEK, LLC. OKAY. GOOD EVENING COUNCIL. THANKS FOR ALLOWING ME TO PRESENT TONIGHT. MY NAME IS JAY HENDERSON. I'M A PLANNER, ONE STARTING WITH THE CITY AND BACK IN MARCH. SO LET'S GET STARTED. SO THIS APPLICATION IS A FINAL PLAT FOR PHASE TWO OF THE COURTYARDS LIKE HAYNES CREEK. SO THIS ORIENTATION WE'RE FACING NORTH TO THE TOP. SO THE SITE IS LOCATED NORTHWEST THE INTERSECTION OF JUG STREET AND CENTRAL COLLEGE ROAD, HIGHLIGHTED IN RED AND SURROUNDED BY TOWNSHIP AND CITY RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES. THE OVERALL. SO THIS IS THE OVERALL SITE PLAN. OUR ORIENTATION IS NOW SHIFTED SO NORTH IS ON OUR LEFT SIDE OF THE SCREEN. SO THE GREEN BOX INDICATES PHASE ONE, WHICH IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW AND PREVIOUSLY APPROVED. PHASE TWO IS IN THE RED AND PHASE THREE IS IN THE ORANGE, WHICH WILL COME AT A LATER DATE. SO HERE'S THE FINAL PLOT. SO NORTH IS BACK TO THE TOP OF THE SCREEN. SO THERE ARE TWO NEW ROADWAYS BEING PROPOSED HEIDELBERG DRIVE AND MARIETTA. SO HEIDELBERG IS HERE AND MARIETTA IS HERE. THERE ARE ALSO ROADWAY EXTENSIONS BEING PROPOSED. WOOSTER DRIVE, HIRAM LANE, WHICH IS A DEDICATED ALLEY, HAYNES CREEK DRIVE AND LOURDES DRIVE AS WELL. THE YELLOW ALONG THE EASTERN AND WESTERN BORDERS OF THE SUBDIVISION IS THE 30 FOOT TREE PRESERVATION ZONE. THESE WERE PRESERVATION ZONES THAT ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE ZONING TEXT, AND A CONTINUATION OF WHAT WAS ESTABLISHED DURING PHASE ONE OF THE SUBDIVISION, AND THE GREEN ARE THE PROPOSED RESERVES. SO AT THE TOP WE HAVE C-1, WHICH IS CUT OFF K J HERE, AND THEN F2. AND SO HERE IS THE FULL IMAGE OF RESERVE C-1, WHICH WAS CUT OFF FROM THE LAST SLIDE. SO ALL RIGHT OF WAY WIDTHS AND PARK DEDICATIONS ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND PRELIMINARY PLAT APPLICATIONS APPROVED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION. AND SO I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. OKAY. REMIND ME HOW ROADS GET NAMED AGAIN. SO THIS ONE WAS ALL. COLLEGES. COLLEGES. YES. WILL THERE BE A DENISON DRIVE. THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING AT D3 YOU KNOW WE GOT A BUNCH OF D3 SCHOOLS. FINDLAY'S MIXED IN THERE. CEDARVILLE. I DIDN'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, THIS IS DEVELOPER. JUST PICKED THE. THAT'S THE THEME. IT'S JUST OHIO UNIVERSITY COLLEGES. YEP, I LIKE IT. WE LIKE TREES. THEY LIKE SCHOOLS. YEAH. THERE YOU GO. ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS ON THE ORDINANCE? GO AHEAD AND SET THAT FOR SECOND READING AT OUR PUBLIC FOR SECOND READING AND PUBLIC HEARING AT OUR MEETING ON OCTOBER 21ST. RESOLUTIONS ON

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COUNCILMEMBER. YES. COUNCILMEMBER. SCHULTZ. YES. COUNCILMEMBER. KISS. YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. CHRIS. YES. MAYOR. SPALDING. YES. SEVEN. YES.

VOTES TO ADOPT RESOLUTION R 36 2025. RESOLUTION R 37 2025 A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A THIRD AMENDED AND RESTATED JOINT OPERATING AGREEMENT TO GOVERN THE OPERATIONS OF THE MCCOY CENTER FOR THE ARTS AND TO REPLACE THE SECOND AMENDED AND RESTATED JOINT OPERATING AGREEMENT PREVIOUSLY AUTHORIZED BY COUNCIL ON DECEMBER 13TH, 2016. JOE, THANK YOU. MAYOR. IN ADDITION TO THE LEGISLATIVE NARRATIVE, I'VE ALSO INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET A DETAILED ANALYSIS THAT WAS CREATED BY MICHAEL SAWYERS FOR THE BENEFIT OF OF DISCUSSING THIS WITH THE MEMBERS OF THE MCCOY BOARD AND THE THE OWNERS, THE INDIVIDUAL OWNERS BOARDS, UNLESS YOU'D PREFER FOR ME TO GO THROUGH EACH OF THESE, I'LL I'LL TRY TO KEEP IT AT A HIGH LEVEL. GIVEN THE THE TIME THIS EVENING, THIS AMENDMENT WAS PRECIPITATED BY THE CONVERSATION THAT I HAD WITH CRAIG MOORE AND THE NEW ALBANY COMMUNITY FOUNDATION. AS YOU'RE AWARE, THE FOUNDATION APPROACHED THE CITY AND REQUESTED THAT THE CITY CONSIDER TAKING RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE OPERATIONAL EXPENSE OF THE MCCOY CENTER. PRIOR TO THAT, SINCE ITS OPENING, THE COMMUNITY FOUNDATION HAS BEEN FUNDING THE COMMUNITY PORTION OF THE OPERATING EXPENSE, AND THE FOUNDATION BOARD HAS EXPRESSED A DESIRE TO FOCUS MORE OF ITS ATTENTION ON PROGRAMING AND GRANTS. SO THE INITIAL CONVERSATION TOOK PLACE APPROXIMATELY 18 MONTHS AGO, AND OVER THAT TIME, WE'VE BEEN HAVING CONVERSATIONS AMONG THE THE OWNERS OF THE STAKEHOLDERS AS THEY'RE REFERRED TO IN THE AGREEMENT. WE HAVE. IT JUST HAPPENED THAT THE SECOND THE FIRST TERM OF THE SECOND AMENDMENT WAS DUE TO EXPIRE IN

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THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WORKS WITH THE MANAGER, WHICH TODAY IS KEPA, AND THEY MAKE DECISIONS OR RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE REST OF THE BOARD AS TO IMPROVE OPERATIONAL IMPROVEMENTS, OPERATIONAL MAINTENANCE, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS THAT WILL CHANGE. THERE WILL BE MORE OF A COLLABORATION BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AS TO OPERATING EXPENSES AND OPERATING FUNCTIONS, AND THEN WE'LL WORK WITH KAPPA AND AND PROVIDE DIRECTION TO KAPPA AS TO WHAT WE WANT TO TO ACCOMPLISH IN ANY GIVEN YEAR. THAT'S THOSE ARE REALLY THE KEY

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COUNCIL MEMBER. BRUCE. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. DETRICK. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. YES. I HAVE SEVEN YES VOTES TO ADOPT. RESOLUTION R 37 2025.

AND AND JUST TO ECHO JOE'S COMMENTS REGARDING THE MCCOY BOARD MEMBERS, I CAN'T THINK OF A GROUP IN NEW ALBANY THAT'S MORE PASSIONATE ABOUT THE ARTS, THAT THEY VOLUNTEERED THEIR TIME AND EFFORTS NOT ONLY TO RAISE MONEY, BUT TO, YOU KNOW, HELP PROVIDE DIRECTION AND LEADERSHIP DURING THE, YOU KNOW, PROGRAMING FOR THAT FACILITY. AND THERE'S A LOT OF PASSION THAT GOES INTO THAT WORK. AND I JUST WANT TO THANK THEM FOR THE TIME AND EFFORT THEY PUT INTO IT. A LOT. A LOT OF GREAT WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE AND A LOT MORE THAT THAT IS GOING TO BE DONE IN THE FUTURE BECAUSE OF THEIR COMMITMENT TO, TO THE ARTS. SO THANK YOU. COUNCIL SUBCOMMITTEE

[13. REPORTS OF REPRESENTATIYES]

THERE WERE ONLY 65 STUDENTS THAT WERE EXCLUDED THROUGH OCTOBER 16TH, AND HOPEFULLY MOST OF THEM HAVE GOTTEN VACCINATED BY THEN. WE TALKED ABOUT THE TALKED ABOUT THE CAMPUS MASTER PLAN. IT WAS SENT TO SICILY FOR PRICING. RAMSAR REVIEW WAS ALMOST COMPLETE, AND WE'LL GO TO THE NEXT. THEY ARE LOOKING AT A MASTER SITE PLAN FOR THE SITE. THEY'RE LOOKING AT PARKING AND HOW THAT ALL IS GOING TO FIT WITHIN THE SITE. THERE ARE SOME LOCKDOWN DRILLS COMING THIS WEEK WHICH PEOPLE SHOULD TALK TO THEIR KIDS ABOUT. AND THEN THEY DID A THEY VOTED TO ALLOW THE SUPERINTENDENT TO ACQUIRE PROPERTY ADJACENT TO THE BUS GARAGE FOR TO EXPAND THAT SITE. AND THEN THEY TALKED ABOUT THE MCCOY AGREEMENT, WHICH WE JUST LEARNED ABOUT.

AND THAT WAS IT. JUST A QUESTION ABOUT THE SITE PLAN FOR THE DISCOVER. YES. ARE THEY VIEWING THAT AS TOTALLY THEIRS? A TOTAL YOU SAID A TOTAL SITE PLAN? YES. THE TOTAL SITE PLAN

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LEISURE TRAILS COULD BE SOME PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT, COULD BE SOME OTHER THINGS. WE HAVEN'T DETERMINED EXACTLY WHAT THEY COULD BE, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW THEY COULD ALL FIT TOGETHER. THE BASEBALL AND SOFTBALL COMPONENT TAKES UP ROUGHLY 19 TO 20 ACRES, DEPENDING ON HOW WE SPREAD THAT OUT ON THE SITE. SO THAT LEAVES APPROXIMATELY 30 ACRES. THAT IS LEFT TO TO PROGRAM THE BENEFIT. IF WE WOULD CHOOSE TO DO SO OF BUILDING OUT OR ALLOWING THE SITE TO BUILD MORE OF ITS ATHLETIC FACILITIES ON THE ON THE ENTIRE 50 ACRES, IS THAT IT PROVIDES THE EXTRA THE EXTRA INSURANCE FOR THE SINGLE ACADEMIC CAMPUS. WE'RE NOT OBLIGATED TO DO THAT. THERE'S NO COMMITMENT TO DO THAT. BUT IF WE CHOOSE TO DO THAT, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD A PLAN IN PLACE THAT WOULD INTEGRATE ALL OF THE DIFFERENT USES. THERE'S I UNDERSTAND ALL THAT I KNOW. I THOUGHT THAT WHEN WE DISCUSSED BUYING THE LAND, THAT THERE WOULD BE CERTAIN CITY CIVIC USE BEYOND JUST BEING ABLE TO USE A BASEBALL FIELD OR A TRACK THAT BELONGS TO THAT SCHOOL, ESSENTIALLY HAS THE MAJORITY OF UTILIZATION, THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO INCORPORATE SOME CITY THINGS INTO IT. IF IF IN DESIGN, THE MAJORITY OR ALL OF IT HAS BEEN DESIGNED BY THE SCHOOLS, THAT LEAVES VERY LITTLE FOR US TO BE ABLE TO DO ANYTHING COMMUNITY WISE. AND IT'S A VERY CENTRAL LOCATION FOR US TO SATISFY POTENTIALLY THINGS IN THE COMMUNITY THAT'S ALL AT ONCE COMMITTED. THEN THAT'S IT.

THAT'S ALL. THAT'S THE REASON WHY I SAID TOTAL, I WAS SURPRISED. I'LL SHARE THE AND I UNDERSTAND THE BENEFIT OF ONE CAMPUS. I'M NOT DISMISSING THAT AT ALL. I MEAN, THAT'S WHY WE BOUGHT THE LAND TO BEGIN WITH. BUT IMMEDIATELY IT'S MOVING FOOTBALL FIELDS AND SOCCER FIELDS AND OTHER THINGS. IT'S THAT'S A IF WE USE 20% ON BALL FIELDS, THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE MUCH LEFT. IF YOU START PUTTING THOSE BIGGER, BIGGER FACILITIES ON THERE. AND I MEAN, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THE THE SITE PLAN THAT IS BEING CONTEMPLATED NOW, I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY THE BASEBALL FIELDS ARE THE URGENT NEED NOW, BUT FROM A CITY PERSPECTIVE, EVEN THOUGH THERE IS THIS KIND OF AND IT'S WHAT WE WANTED TO DO, A HOLISTIC DESIGN TO SEE WHAT COULD FIT ON THAT PROPERTY. SO, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO DO THE BASEBALL FIELDS NOW. LET'S PUT THEM IN THE RIGHT PLACE SO IT WORKS WITH POTENTIAL FUTURE PROJECTS. BUT THE ONLY THING THAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN IMMINENTLY IS THE BASEBALL FIELDS. CORRECT. THERE'S NO COMMITMENT. BASEBALL, SOFTBALL. YEAH. THERE'S NO COMMITMENT. YOU KNOW, NO MATTER WHAT'S ON THE SITE PLAN. NOW, THIS IS POTENTIAL FUTURE JUST TO MAKE SURE IT WORKS WITH OTHER PHASES THAT COULD COME DOWN THE ROAD THAT AREN'T EVEN NECESSARILY FUNDED OR PLANNED YET. RIGHT. WE WOULDN'T WANT TO

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[14. REPORTS OF CITYOFFICIALS]

GOAL FOR MANAGEMENT, LEADERSHIP, TRANSITION AND GOAL FIVE DEVELOP A MASTER FACILITIES PLAN FOR CITY USE. AGAIN, I THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD EXERCISE FOR US TO ALL GO THROUGH, AND I THOUGHT THE REPORT THAT CAME BACK HIGHLIGHTED SOME OF THE, YOU KNOW, KEY POINTS OF THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE HAD, THE DETAIL IN THE REPORT. AGAIN, THERE'S BASICALLY JUST FIVE SLIDES THAT JUST BULLET POINT THE KEY ELEMENTS OF EACH ONE OF THOSE GOALS. BUT JUST TO GIVE STAFF CLEAR DIRECTION ON THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE'RE PRIORITIZING MOVING FORWARD. I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE CONSULTANT'S REPORT SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? YOU WANT TO DELAY THE VOTE UNTIL LATER? NO. OKAY. FIRST AND SECOND, DID OKAY ON THE MOTION.

MAYOR SPALDING. YES. COUNCILMEMBER SCHULTZ. YES. OH. IT WAS WAS IT THAT COUNCIL MEMBER? YES, YES. SO LET'S DO THAT. SO IT WAS ALREADY MAYOR SPALDING? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER.

FELLOWS. YES, I THOUGHT I ALREADY DID THAT, BUT I'LL DO IT AGAIN FROM THERE. COUNCIL

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COUNCIL MEMBER. DETRICK. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. BRUCE. YES. SEVEN. YES. VOTES ON THE MOTION TO ADOPT THE REPORT AND GOALS. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S ALL I HAVE AT THE MOMENT. IS THERE ANY UPDATE FROM THE CLERK? NO REPORT. FINANCE DIRECTOR MORGAN. NO REPORT. CITY MANAGER, YOU MAY REMEMBER THAT I SERVE ON THE BOARD OF THE OHIO PLAN. THAT'S THE CONSORTIUM THAT WE PARTICIPATE IN TO OBTAIN PROPERTY AND CASUALTY INSURANCE. THEY'RE HAVING THEIR ANNUAL BOARD RETREAT ON THURSDAY AND FRIDAY. SO I'LL BE OUT OF THE OFFICE IN NORTHWEST OHIO AT THAT ALL DAY THURSDAY, AND I'LL BE RETURNING ON FRIDAY AFTERNOON, BUT I'LL BE AVAILABLE AND, YOU KNOW, IN CASE OF EMERGENCY OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. NAPOLEON, LIKE, HOW FAR ARE YOU GOING? NAPOLEON? OHIO. GOING TO PERRYSVILLE. PERRYSBURG. PERRYSBURG. NICE.

LITTLE BETTER THAN NAPOLEON IS WHERE THEY MAKE THE. SOMETIMES THEY MAKE. THAT'S BRIAN. BRIAN.

THAT'S ALL. ALL RIGHT. ANY UPDATE FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY? NO UPDATE TONIGHT. THANK HOLD

[15. POLL FOR PUBLIC COMMENT]

[16. POLL FOR COUNCIL COMMENT]

MY ONLY COMMENT WOULD BE WE'LL TRY TO DO IT WHEN OHIO STATE IS OUT OF TOWN, BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF FOLKS TO THE GAME. WE ALREADY GOT TWO DATES WE'RE LOOKING AT. YEAH, YEAH, IT'S ALWAYS A TOUGH NEEDLE TO THREAD, BUT LET'S JUST FIND A DATE WHERE IT'S LIKE 80 DEGREES.

WELL, THAT DIDN'T WORK. THAT'S GORGEOUS. YOU KNOW? SO JUST THREAD THAT AND FIGURE THAT OUT.

RIGHT. WE'LL DO OKAY. IT WAS A TOTAL CITYWIDE TEAM EFFORT FOR SURE. TO ALL THE DEPARTMENTS.

IT WAS GREAT. YOU GUYS WERE GREAT ALL DAY. SPORTS WAS GREAT. THEY WERE AWESOME OUT THERE.

GREAT SERVICE. REALLY KEPT THINGS CLEAN. I MEAN IT WAS JUST PERFECT. YEAH. FINANCE FIGURED OUT HOW TO PAY FOR IT. SELL ALCOHOL. I'M SORRY. WE DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO DO THAT. SO JUST JUST A COMMENT ABOUT THAT. IF ANYONE LOOKS AT THEIR CREDIT CARD RECEIPTS, THE MONEY DID NOT GO TO THE MAYOR. OKAY? SO JUST TO BE CLEAR, IS THAT WHAT IT SAYS? I DID NOT GET ANY OF THAT MONEY. MAYOR'S NEW BICYCLE FUND. OH, BOY. HE'S GETTING A CLASS THREE. NOT EVEN SURE I'M GOING FULL, SIR. ON. I'M NOT. WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS GOING TO BE A FIRE SALE NEXT WEEK. ALRIGHT? BUT NO, JUST COMPLIMENTS THE TEAM. I MEAN, I RODE PELOTONIA GRAVEL DAY THAT DAY, SO I WAS PUMPED FULL OF ENDORPHINS WHEN I CAME BACK AND I WAS IN A GREAT MOOD AND I SHOWED UP AND EVERYONE FROM STAFF WAS THERE, SMILE ON THEIR FACE, ENJOYING THE MOMENT,

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