Nov 12, 2025 Sustainability Advisory Board

[I. Call to Order]

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MEETING AT 630. CAN STAFF PLEASE READ ROLL CALL? MR. SCHUMACHER HERE, MR. BARNES HERE. MISS GALLO HERE. MISS SCOTT HERE, MR. KOCIAN HERE. MISS KOPPELMAN HERE, MISS LOPEZ HERE. AND COUNCIL MEMBER HERE. OUR STUDENT REPRESENTATIVE. REPRESENTATIVE. MISS GRIFFITH IS NOT HERE AND NOT IN CHICAGO. RIGHT. BUT SHE IS IN CHICAGO. THANK YOU. FIRST ITEM ON THE

[III. Action of Minutes: October 8, 2025]

MR. SCHUMACHER. YES, MISS SCOTT? YES, MR. BARNES? YES, MISS GALLO? YES, MR. GOSHEN. YES, MISS KOPPELMAN? YES, MISS. LOPEZ? YES. MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY

[IV. Additions or Corrections to Agenda]

[VI. Business]

CHAIR. MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, WE HAVE A NUMBER OF ITEMS ON THE AGENDA THIS EVENING. AND THE FIRST ITEM IS A POCKET PRAIRIES UPDATE. CODY, YOU CAN APPROACH THE PODIUM IF YOU WOULD LIKE.

AND I WILL PULL UP HIS PRESENTATION. THIS QUICKER FOR YOU TO. JUST. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY. MY NAME IS CODY WRIGHT AND I WORK WITH MAD SCIENTIST ASSOCIATES. HE'S HERE FOR SOME UPDATES AND A CHANGE ORDER REQUEST. SO, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A COUPLE BUMPS IN. THIS PROJECT HAS CHANGED QUITE A LOT SINCE WE FIRST STARTED. SO I, YOU KNOW, OUR AGENDA, WE'LL JUST GO THROUGH EACH PROJECT SITE AND UPDATE. JAMES RIVER PARK. WE HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING THERE YET PAST THE OPEN HOUSE. WE HAVE NOT STARTED ANY SITE PREPARATION YET. THIS BREAKDOWN, THIS IS OUR ORIGINAL HOURS. WE ESTIMATED AND COSTS. SO OUR ORIGINAL BUDGET WAS ABOUT 19 FIVE. SO TO DATE AND THIS IS PROBABLY OUT OF DATE. JUST A HAIR BUT WE HAVE USED 73.5 HOURS FOR STAFF AND WE ONLY BUDGETED FOR 75. A LOT OF THAT CAME FROM THIS BIG FANCY GUY OVER HERE. OUR RESTORATION DESIGNER SPENT 45 HOURS BETWEEN DIFFERENT DRAFTS FOR THIS PLANTING PLAN. SO THAT THREW US OUT. A LOT OF THE BUDGET ATE UP ABOUT $5,000. SO THAT IS PART OF MY CHANGE REQUEST IN THIS. ESTIMATED OVERAGE. WE DID DECIDE AS A COMPANY TO ABSORB HALF OF HIS HOURS THE COST FOR THAT. BUT ADD ON AN ADDITIONAL. 2430 TO HELP COVER SOME OF THAT OVERAGE LEADING INTO THIS WASN'T BUDGETED FOR. WE STARTED THIS PROJECT IN JANUARY OF 25.

WE WERE UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT MAYBE WE WOULD JUST HAVE A LITTLE PLANTING PLAN FOR INTERNAL USE, AND WE WOULDN'T NEED ONE FOR. A. COMMUNITY KICKOFF EVENT, AND WE DIDN'T

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ONE OF OUR PRIVATE RESIDENTS, ONE OF OUR CLIENTS, THAT IS, WE DID SOMETHING VERY SIMILAR FOR THIS YEAR. SO THIS SITE PREP, THIS WAS BEFORE WE THIS WAS BEFORE WE HAD A CONTRACT IN HAND. THIS WAS JUST A PRE PRE-BID SITE VISIT BACK IN OCTOBER OF 2023. THEY KIND OF DUG OUT THE CONTRACT PROCESS AND TOOK ABOUT A YEAR TO SETTLE ON THEIR DESIGN THAT THEY WANTED. BUT THAT GOT US TO THIS PHASE, WHICH IS OUR SITE PREP. YOU CAN SEE HERE IS FLAGGED OUT AND SPRAY PAINTED OUT PRETTY PRECISELY. AND. THE TURF IS BEING SPRAYED. SO IT. THIS IS FROM. AUGUST MID AUGUST OF THIS YEAR AFTER WE PLANTED THE SITE, PREP OCCURRED AND APRIL OF THIS YEAR. SO PRETTY QUICK TURNAROUND FROM KILLING OFF THE TURF, INSTALLING THE PLUGS IN MAY OR THE BEGINNING OF JUNE AND THEN FOR IT TO LOOK THIS ESTABLISHED AND PRETTY BY AUGUST. AND THIS IS JUST LAST FRIDAY. JUST TO GIVE AN IDEA WHAT WE ARE TO EXPECT WITH JAMES RIVER, WHICH WE FINALLY GET THAT STARTED. A LOT OF THE DELAY FOR THAT WAS. IT WAS REALLY WET AND THEN IT WAS VERY DRY. SO WE WENT FROM A VERY WET EARLY SUMMER UNTIL OR INTO AN IMMEDIATE DROUGHT. SO THAT WASN'T VERY SUITABLE FOR HERBICIDE APPLICATION. AND OUR TECHNICIAN ALLEN IS GOING TO BE LEADING THE EFFORT ON JAMES RIVER. AND THIS WAS ALSO HIS OTHER PROJECT. SO SEEING HOW WELL THIS ONE DID WITH THAT TIMEFRAME, WE DECIDED THAT HOLDING OFF UNTIL THE SPRING TO START, VIRGIN RIVER WOULD BE. MORE PREFERABLE. MOVE ON TO TAYLOR FARM. THIS SITE. ORIGINALLY WE WERE LOOKING AT ONE ACRE. OF BEFORE WE HAD THE SITE AT THE PARK DESIGNATED. WE WERE JUST GOING OFF OF A BASIC TURF CONVERSION. FOR THAT ORIGINAL BUDGET, BUT WE, THE BOARD AND MATT HAVE DECIDED THAT THE ROAD FRONTAGE WOULD BE THE SHOWCASE PIECE FOR THIS PROJECT, AND IT ENDED UP BEING. MAYBE THREE QUARTERS OF AN ACRE.

I'M NOT QUITE THE FULL ACRE, BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, ALL OF THIS IS COMMON. TEASEL A VERY INVASIVE ROADSIDE WEED, AND IT PRETTY MUCH STRETCHED THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF THAT ROADWAY.

SO BEFORE WE COULD EVEN START SITE PREP, WE WENT THROUGH AND WE CUT AND BAGGED EVERY SEED HEAD, FLOWER HEAD OFF OF THE. SOME OF THE PHRAGMITES, WHICH POPPED UP RIGHT BACK HERE BY THIS TREE IN THE WET AREA. AND ANY COCKTAIL SEED HEADS THAT WE FOUND IN THIS SORT OF SWALE. SO THAT TOOK A LOT OF TIME THAT WE HAD NOT ACCOUNTED FOR ORIGINALLY. AGAIN, GOING OFF OF A BASIC TURF CONVERSION. QUOTE. SO THAT WAS A LOT OF TIME. BUT WE GOT HUNDREDS OF POUNDS OF INVASIVE SEED OFF OF THE SITE, AND LUCKILY TEASEL IS ONLY IT'S A BIENNIAL, SO IT COMES UP IN ROSETTE THE FIRST YEAR AND THEN IT BOLTS THE FLOWER SPIKE ITS SECOND YEAR. AND THAT'S DONE.

SO ALL OF THESE PLANTS HAVE BEEN FLOWER THERE. THEY ARE NO MORE. AND THEY DIDN'T GET THE

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AND WE COME BACK. THIS IS ALSO FROM THE THIRD AND SAW THESE AMAZING POSTS AND EXTENSION CORDS TO WHATEVER THE UTILITY IS WITH A THICK LAYER OF STRAW, AND IT HAS BEEN SEEDED WITH JUST A GENERAL. LAWN GRASS MIX. MOST OF THIS, MOST OF THE SITE LOOKS FINE. WE ARE GOING TO GO BACK. WE'RE HOPING IF WE GET A COUPLE DAYS THIS FALL THAT ARE STILL ABOVE 40 DEGREES FOR A FEW DAYS, WE'LL COME BACK THROUGH AND HIT ANYTHING THAT'S GREEN. SO THIS IS ALL REED CANARY GRASS THAT HAD BEEN MOWED PREVIOUSLY BEFORE WE HAD HIT IT WITH HERBICIDE, SO IT WASN'T QUITE UP AND RECEPTIVE TO THE HERBICIDE. THIS IS ALL IT LOOKS LIKE. THERE'S TEASEL A COUPLE BABY TEASELS COMING UP, CANADA THISTLE, ANOTHER NON-NATIVE INVASIVE. AND THIS IS ALL. PURPLE DEAD NETTLE WHICH IS AGAIN ANOTHER ANNUAL AGGIE. I DON'T RECALL IF IT'S NATIVE OR NOT, BUT SINCE THE SINCE THE FARM WAS A FARM AND AN AGGIE FOREVER, IT'S TO BE EXPECTED THAT WE'LL GET A BUNCH OF THESE LITTLE ANNUAL AGGIE WEEDS POPPING UP. SO WE'LL HAVE THOSE. BUT THESE UTILITY AREAS THAT WE SEEDED WITH TURF GRASS, JUST KENTUCKY BLUE OR FESCUE OR WHATEVER WAS IN THAT MIX. THIS PATCH DECIDED THAT IT REALLY LIKED IT. SO THAT'S ALL GERMINATED FOR THE MOST PART. I'M SURE THERE'S SOME UNDER THIS STRAW. SO WE'LL COME BACK THROUGH AND WE'LL SPRAY THAT. AND PULL BACK SOME OF THIS THICK LAYER OF STRAW. LUCKILY, IT WASN'T ACROSS THE WHOLE SITE, JUST WHERE THESE PORTS ARE. BUT WHEN YOU'RE SEEDING, YOU WANT AS MUCH EXPOSED SOIL AS YOU CAN TO GET THE SEED TO SOIL CONTACT WITH THE NATIVE. THE NATIVE

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WE'VE GOT PLENTY OF BUDGET TO COVER EVERYTHING FOR NOW, SO SIMPLIFIED. I HAVE REACHED OUT AND ASKED FOR 11,000 MORE TO HELP COVER ALL OF THESE OVERAGES. A LOT OF AGAIN, THAT OVERAGE WAS FROM. THE OVER THE INTERNAL OVERAGE FOR THAT. PLANTING PLAN. AND THEN THESE

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THEY JUST KIND OF GO DORMANT DURING DROUGHT. SO WE FOUND IT BEST TO NOT EVEN ATTEMPT DURING THOSE HOT MONTHS. I THE ONLY SITE THAT I DO SEE US GETTING MORE. SITE PREP ON, I GUESS BOTH TAYLOR FARM AND JUST GROVE. WE WENT OUT, WE SAW A LITTLE BIT OF REGROWTH IN NEW SEEDS POPPED UP. SO LIKE I MENTIONED, IF WE DO GET A COUPLE OF NICE WARM DAYS THAT WE WILL GO BACK OUT AND HIT ALL OF THE GREEN ONE MORE TIME BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR. AND I'M HOPING THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO GET ALL OF THE SEED DOWN, AT LEAST IN THOSE TWO HALF ACRE UNITS. I MIGHT HOLD OFF ON A SMALL UNIT ALONG THE STREET AT PLANTERS GROVE, JUST IN CASE IT FLOODS IN THE SPRING AND JUST WANTS TO WASH IT AWAY. PLUS, I'VE GOT A FEW CONTAINER PLANTS THAT WE'LL BE PUTTING DOWN THERE, THOSE SORT OF VERNAL POOL POCKETS. I THINK ALL OF THE REST WILL BE 2026 AFTER PROBABLY NOT SPANNING PAST MAY. YOU DON'T REALLY WANT TO PLANT MUCH FURTHER INTO THE YEAR THAN THE BEGINNING OF MAY. BUT THAT'S WHAT I GOT TAYLOR FROM THE AUSTRALIAN. SIDE, NO QUESTIONS. WHO WANTS TO START? I'M GOING TO LET YOU BECAUSE YOU'RE JUMPING AT IT. I'VE JUMPED IN, I GUESS. CAN WE GO BACK TO THE NUMBERS ON? MIGHT AS WELL START AT JAMES RIVER. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M READING THAT SHEET RIGHT. SO YOU HAD ALLOTTED 75 STAFF HOURS. IS THAT FOR THE ENTIRE PROJECT? YES, THAT WAS OUR ORIGINAL FOR THE WHOLE PROJECT. AND YOU'VE ALREADY USED 73 HOURS. YES. SO THAT WE HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING ON SITE YET, AND WE HAVE 2.5 HOURS ON. RIGHT. 45 OF THOSE HOURS IN HERE WERE FOR THIS. I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT HE HITS THAT IN DEPTH AND IT TAKES THAT MUCH. HE IS REMOTE IN SOUTH CAROLINA. I BELIEVE. AND HE JUST HE REALLY TOOK A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT ON GETTING THIS A COUPLE PHASES OF THIS. PLANTING TOGETHER. SO WE REALLY WITHOUT EVEN PUTTING A SHOVEL IN THE GROUND, YOU THINK WE'RE ONLY GOING TO BE OVER $3,700 TO COMPLETE THIS PROJECT? WE ABSORBED HALF OF THAT COST FOR HIS HOURS, AND THEN THE MAJORITY OF THIS REMAINING BUDGET IS GOING TO PLANTS. I ONCE WE GET ALL OF THIS. FLAGGED OUT AND PLANTED, IT'LL IT SHOULDN'T BE BUT COUPLE DAYS. TWO DAYS I THINK OF COURSE A TEAM OF 2 OR 3 IS WORTH THAT BUDGET FOR THIS. I HAVE A QUESTION. WAS HE AWARE OF THE BUDGET? YOU KNOW WHAT I'M JUST SAYING? LIKE, I MEAN, I HAVE A SMALL BUSINESS AND I PLAN THINGS AND MY BUDGETS THIS I'M GOING TO PLAN FOR THIS. I'M NOT WHAT LOOKS LIKE GOUGING. I'M JUST SAYING THAT'S JUST. AND I MEAN, I WANT EVERYTHING TO BE COMPLETELY CLEAR AND TRANSPARENT, LIKE WERE THERE.

ASKED FROM THE CITY FOR THE KICKOFF EVENT OR ANYTHING THAT YOU HAD TO PREPARE. THAT WAS IN ADDITION TO WHAT YOU HAD ORIGINALLY WAS IN YOUR ORIGINAL SCOPE? YES. SO WE HAD BUDGETED FOR ANY OF THESE MEETINGS. WE CANNOT BUILD ANY OF THIS TIME TOWARDS ANY PROJECT. I DO BELIEVE WE FILMED THE KICKOFF MEETING. SO ALL THE PREP UP TO THAT, WE WEREN'T AWARE THAT

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PROBABLY WASN'T YOUR INTENTION TO BE HERE TONIGHT ASKING FOR $11,000. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT IN OVER OUR HEAD. AND I SEE A RESIDENTIAL PROJECT, BUT, YOU KNOW. IT MIGHT BE MOLLY, I THINK. NO, ON YOUR FEET. BECAUSE CHIP DOES THAT ALL THE TIME. SO WATCH YOUR FEET DOWN THERE. HE GETS A LITTLE. BUT I, I JUST, YOU KNOW, WE'RE HERE AND TWO OF THE THREE ARE ALREADY OVER BUDGET. WE HAVEN'T PLANTED ANYTHING YET, SO. AND WE'LL WALK THROUGH ALL OF THEM AND KIND OF WANT TO HEAR WHAT EVERYBODY HAS TO SAY. BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ARE ON THE SAME PAGE. ONE FOUR. THAT WAS MY MAIN QUESTION WAS, DO YOU REALLY THINK $3,700, GIVEN WE HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING YET, IS GOING TO COMPLETE THIS PROJECT, RIGHT? I BELIEVE SO, SO WE'VE STILL. WE'VE STILL GOT THE 13 TO WORK WITH WHICH WE ATE HALF OF HIS COST. LIKE I MENTIONED, THIS OTHER TEN IS, I BELIEVE, THE SITE PREP. AND WE'VE ALREADY KIND OF DONE A LITTLE BIT OUT OF THIS PORTION OF THE BUDGET. SO THAT'S WHY IT'S NOT THE FULL $16. SO WE'VE STILL GOT 13 K TO WORK WITH AND SUBTRACTING THIS. THAT'S THIS GIVES US THE. THIS OVERAGE THAT WE WILL STILL WE WILL RUN INTO SORT OF BUT WE'VE STILL GOT THIS SITE PROJECT TO WORK WITH, WHICH IS WHY I ONLY GOT A COUPLE THOUSAND MORE FOR JUST TIME STAFF TIME. OKAY.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS ON JAMES RIVER? NO. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. CAN WE JUMP TO TAYLOR? SO ON THIS ONE, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW, MILK THISTLE FROM CORN, WHEAT OR WHATEVER. AND IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU ENCOUNTERED SOME, SOME THINGS THAT YOU WEREN'T ANTICIPATING. DIDN'T WE DO SITE VISITS, THOUGH? WE DID ALL OF THE SITE VISITS AFTER THE SIGN CONTRACTING. SO IT WAS A LEARNING CURVE ON BOTH PARTS FOR SURE. WE STARTED, I THINK OUR SIGNED BUDGET CAME BACK IN JANUARY, AND I DON'T BELIEVE OUR FIRST MEETING WAS UNTIL MARCH. MAYBE. HINDSIGHT BEING 2020, WE SHOULDN'T HAVE HAD A CONTRACT IN HAND UNTIL WE GET ALL MET AND GOT EVERYTHING FIGURED OUT ON THE GROUND. YEAH, SO WE HAD ASSUMED FOR THIS BUDGET THAT IT WOULD JUST BE SPRAY SOME GRASS, THROW SOME SEED DOWN, AND IT TURNED INTO A TON OF INVASIVE SPECIES AND IT WOULD BE MULTIPLE TREATMENTS OF THOSE INVASIVE SPECIES. OKAY, SO ONCE YOU GUYS AND I CAN'T REMEMBER THE TIMING, LIKE WHEN WE WENT OUT AND ACTUALLY LIKE DIDN'T YOU WAS IT AFTER THE CONTRACT WAS SIGNED THAT YOU WENT OUT AND FLAGGED THE THE FOOTPRINT? AND THAT'S HOW WE GOT KIND OF THE MEASUREMENTS AND WE PLAYED WITH THE NUMBERS AND. RIGHT. AND I THINK POINT

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TO ME, I THINK IT MAKES SENSE THAT THIS TAKES LONGER THAN TURFGRASS. I UNDERSTAND THE ARGUMENT THERE. SO I SEE IN YOUR ORIGINAL ESTIMATE YOU HAD 24 HOURS FOR SITE PREP, WHICH FOR THIS TYPE OF SITE FOR TURFGRASS IS WHAT YOU WOULD TYPICALLY SPEND. YEAH, IT WOULD BE ONE BLANKET OR BLANKET HERBICIDE APPLICATION WITH A COUPLE SPOTS, SPOT TREATMENTS OR ANYTHING THAT CAME BACK. I FEEL LIKE LIKE WHEN WE CHOSE THIS, WE CHANGED TO THIS SIDE OR I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT THE ORIGINAL IDEA WAS AT TAYLOR FARM. I MEAN, THERE REALLY ISN'T THAT MUCH TURFGRASS, THAT TAYLOR FARM, I DON'T THINK, BUT. IT SEEMS LIKE WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO SEE, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE DOING THIS ROADWAY, THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE MORE COMPLICATED. BUT THAT WHEN YOU GUYS INITIALLY FLAGGED AND EVERYTHING, DID IT SEEM PROBLEMATIC OR. I MEAN, I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT POINT. SO IT WAS FLAGGED. A LOT OF IT IS MOWED. ROCKY FORD COMES THROUGH THE MOWED A LOT OF WAY MORE THAN I THOUGHT THEY WOULD.

THERE'S A WET PATCH AND THEN IT KIND OF TRANSITIONS INTO SOME TREE STUMPS. SO THE ONLY THING THAT WAS TERRIBLE WAS LIKE THAT WET PATCH HEADING EAST TOWARD THE CROSSWALK. AND THAT DIDN'T SEEM HORRIBLE AT THE TIME. THERE WERE DEFINITELY SKELETONS OF ALL OF THE TEASEL AND CATTAILS BEFORE, BUT I WANTED TO SEE IF WE COULD WORK WITHIN THAT BUDGET, HOW MUCH WE COULD ACTUALLY GET TO WITH THAT. AND THEN THIS JUST TURNED INTO IT WAS A WHOLE SEED OF THE TEASEL.

AND THEN THE SEED HEAD REMOVAL WAS A HUGE CHUNK OF OVERAGE. JUST TO GET GET IT BEFORE IT BOLTED. WAS MY HOPE FOR THIS YEAR. WE WERE NOT ABLE TO DO THAT, SO IT ALL BOLTED. FLOUR.

I'M JUST GOING TO DROP ALL OF THAT SCENE. SO I THINK IN HINDSIGHT, WHAT WE PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE DONE WAS BECAUSE WE HAD A SIGNED CONTRACT AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR SO THAT WE COULD GET THEM ON BOARD, WAS PROBABLY ONCE THE BOARD WORKED WITH THEM TO COME UP WITH WHAT YOU WANTED TO DO, LIKE, YOU KNOW, DECIDING TO DO THE OPEN HOUSE WAS AN ADDITIONAL THING THAT WE DIDN'T ORIGINALLY PLAN FOR, WHICH, YOU KNOW, GAVE US THE NEED FOR AN ELABORATE ILLUSTRATION TO HAVE AT THE OPEN HOUSE SO PEOPLE COULD SEE WHAT'S GOING TO BE IN THEIR BACKYARD AT THAT PARK, DECIDING TO DO THE PLANTING ALONG THE ROAD WHERE IT ISN'T JUST GRASS, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE A CONTRACTOR COME OUT TO YOUR HOUSE AND YOU SAY, THIS IS WHAT I WANT TO DO, THEY GIVE YOU A PLAN AND THEY GIVE YOU A QUOTE BASED ON THAT PLAN. SO WE PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE REALLY AMENDED THE CONTRACT AT THAT TIME ONCE WE HAD A PLAN IN PLACE. BUT WE DID NOT. AND THAT IS, I THINK, WHAT HAS HAPPENED. WELL, I'M SORRY, LET ME STOP

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WE HAVE AN ACRE HERE. AND THEN PLANTER'S GROVE, YOU KNOW, WE'LL TAKE THIS QUARTER ACRE.

IT WAS JUST, YOU KNOW, WE HAD THE TOTAL FOOTPRINT. IT WAS JUST WHERE IT WAS GOING TO GO.

SO NOW I GUESS WE LEARNED THAT IT DEPENDS ON WHAT'S IN THAT FOOTPRINT CAN MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE. SO GOING FORWARD, YES, WE CAN ADDRESS THAT. AND SO MOVING FORWARD, ONCE THE PROJECT IS INSTALLED NEXT MAY. THIS WILL NOT NECESSARILY BE AN SAB PROJECT ANYMORE. THE MAINTENANCE IS GOING TO GO TO THE SERVICE DEPARTMENT. SO THE SERVICE DEPARTMENT IS PUTTING IN THEIR 2026 BUDGET REQUEST TO WORK WITH MAD SCIENTISTS MOVING FORWARD. AND SO THE $11,000 THAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR IS NOT COMING OUT OF THE SAB BUDGET. THE SERVICE DEPARTMENT HAS MAINTENANCE BUDGET FOR TAYLOR FARM PARK AND FOR ALL THE OTHER PARKS IN THE PLAN. SO IT'S GOING TO COME FROM THEIR BUDGET AND NATURALLY, BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE THEIR PROJECT MOVING FORWARD, THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE IT. YOU WILL STILL BE INVOLVED THROUGH MAY, AND AS LONG AS YOU WANT TO BE INVOLVED, BUT IT WON'T HAVE TO BE YOUR 2026 BUDGET UNLESS YOU WANT TO.

YOU KNOW, IN THE FUTURE, IF THIS WORKS OUT WELL AND YOU WANT TO ADD OTHER POCKET PRAIRIES AND OTHER PLACES OF THE CITY, THEN IT'LL KIND OF BE A NEW PROCESS FOR THOSE PARKS.

AND THEN WE'LL HAVE TO DISCUSS IF THERE'S SIGNAGE TO BE PUT IN OR THAT KIND OF THING. THAT'S GOING TO BE A JOINT CONVERSATION. THE THE SIGNAGE AND. THE SIGNAGE WOULD BE STILL WITH SAB. NOW, CODY, I HAVE A QUESTION. SO IN 2027 FOR TAYLOR FARM, WILL THAT CONTINUE TO BE A A MAINTENANCE ITEM. BECAUSE WE'RE NOT SURE IF IT'S ALL ALL THE INVASIVE IS KILLED OFF THROUGH THERE. IT COULD BE IF YOU WANT TO PROCEED WITH THAT INVASIVE SPECIES MANAGEMENT THAT WASN'T IN THIS ESTIMATE. CORRECT. I'M JUST TRYING I'M THINKING AHEAD. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. OKAY. YOU BUDGET FOR THAT OKAY. TO BE FAIR, CODY, THIS WAS A TOUGH GROWING SEASON. WE ALL KNOW THAT, RIGHT? I MEAN, IT WAS KIND OF A ROUGH. IT WAS I MEAN, TO BE FAIR, I GUESS MY QUESTION IS FOR NEXT YEAR, WHAT HAPPENS IF WE I MEAN, THE CLIMATE BEING WHAT IT IS, I MEAN, LET'S FINGERS CROSSED EVERYTHING GOES SMOOTHLY AND WE HAVE A DECENT WINTER AND SPRING. WILL THAT THEN SHIFT OVER TO YOU GUYS IF SOMETHING HAPPENS WITH THE PLANTING AGAIN, BECAUSE WE'RE WORKING WITH MOTHER NATURE, RIGHT? SO THAT'S PART OF THAT'S PART OF THE DEAL TOO, RIGHT? IF WE DO GET A LOT OF WET EARLY IN THE SEASON, THAT'LL BE OUR HELP GETTING THE PLANTS ESTABLISHED. YOU DEFINITELY DON'T WANT TO PLANT INTO LIKE THE SCORCHING PART OF THE SUMMER. BUT IF WE GET A NICE WET SPRING EARLY SUMMER, THAT WILL ACTUALLY BE

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I LOVE THAT. I GUESS I DO APPRECIATE THE DETAIL AND THE ATTENTION YOU'RE PUTTING TO IT.

I MEAN, I THINK WE COULD DO IT THE EASY WAY AND JUST MOW EVERYTHING AND JUST HOPE FOR THE BEST. AND I THINK WE WOULD HAVE KIND OF A MESS. SO I THINK IT'S COSTING MORE, WHICH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE PUTTING YOU ON THE HOT SEAT ABOUT THAT. BUT I THINK LONG TERM, IF IT REALLY LOOKS GREAT AND IT'S WHAT WE WANT IS A, YOU KNOW, PLACES THAT PEOPLE IN NEW ALBANY ARE GOING BY THERE AND SEEING, YOU KNOW, THIS IS SOMETHING WE COULD DO AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S EDUCATIONAL TO EVERYBODY. THEN TO ME, I THINK IT'S IT'S WORTH IT. SO APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SIR? CHELSEA, WHAT DO WE HAVE TO DO? TONIGHT? I MEAN, I KNOW WE AREN'T ASKING FOR MORE MONEY, BUT DO YOU, DO YOU NEED A MOTION AND APPROVAL FOR THE CHANGE ORDER OR. NO. NO. OKAY. ONLY BECAUSE IT'S NOT COMING FROM SAB'S BUDGET. I MEAN, OF COURSE, IF YOU'RE STRONGLY OPPOSED, THEN. WE CAN. TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION. YEAH.

I MEAN, MY MAIN CONCERN, CODY, IS I AGAIN, I APPRECIATE I JUST WANT YOU TO BE COMPLETELY UPFRONT WITH US. AND I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I JUST CAN'T HANDLE OR YOU DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE. NOW IS THE TIME. ABSOLUTELY. I THINK WE CAN GET IT IF YOU CAN GET IT DONE. FOR THE NUMBERS THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED TONIGHT AND TO THE LEVEL THAT WE'RE EXPECTING, AND ABSOLUTELY AT THIS POINT, EVEN IF WE ARE OVER THE 11,000 THAT I AM HOPING FOR, WE'RE GOING TO NEED IT, OKAY. BECAUSE, I MEAN, THE GOAL IS I THINK WE WERE GOING TO GET ON THESE PROJECTS AND BE LIKE, ALL RIGHT, WHAT'S NEXT? WHERE DO WE, YOU KNOW, CONTINUE TO DO THESE, YOU KNOW, GET THE LEARNING CURVE OUT OF THE WAY. BUT THE PLAN IS TO JUST DO THESE THREE PROJECTS.

IT SHOULD BE THAT WE CAN EXPAND THIS TO THE REST OF THE CITY. SO THAT IS OUR GOAL. OKAY. I THINK THE HARD PART HAS BEEN KIND OF THE SURPRISE AND IT'S ALREADY LIKE IT'S ALREADY HAPPENED. LIKE WE KIND OF WE CAN'T REALLY I DON'T KNOW, IT'S KIND OF LIKE ALREADY DONE.

WE'RE JUST YEAH, IT WOULD BE NICE MOVING FORWARD, I THINK TO JUST HAVE THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE COMMUNICATION, PROBABLY FOR THE MAINTENANCE GROUP OR, OR US FOR NEXT POCKET PRAIRIE, JUST TO MAKE SURE WE'RE KEEPING ON THE SAME PAGE ALL THE TIME. AND NO ONE IS SURPRISED EITHER WAY WITH LIKE, THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU GUYS SAID YOU WANTED. AND WE'RE NOT LIKE, OH, IT'S AN EXTRA $5,000 SHOOT. SO I JUST THINK MOVING FORWARD THAT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL FOR BOTH SIDES.

MAYBE A DIFFERENT DESIGNER, JUST AS AN OPTION, RIGHT? UNFORTUNATELY, THERE ARE ONLY RESTORATION DESIGNER ON STAFF. YEAH, YEAH. I TRIED TO BE LIKE WE DON'T HAVE A TON TO WORK WITH, BUT HE BUILD EVERYTHING. YEAH. OKAY. GREAT. THANKS. I APPRECIATE THE UPDATE. THANK YOU. THANKS, CODY. GREAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YOU.

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SO THERE IS 268 ISH HOMES IN WINDSOR, AND WE BUDGETED FOR ABOUT HALF. WE BUDGETED FOR 150 PARTICIPANTS. AND REALLY IF WE GET 80 PARTICIPANTS, THAT'S GOOD BECAUSE THE AVERAGE PARTICIPATION RATE THAT BEXLEY AND UPPER ARLINGTON ARE SEEING FOR THEIR CITYWIDE PROGRAM IS LIKE 40% PARTICIPATION RATE. SO EVEN IF WE GET 80, THAT WOULD BE GOOD. SO WE'RE A LITTLE OVER HALFWAY TO 80 AT LEAST. BUT. SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE WITH THE NUMBERS. AND THE SEPTEMBER AND OCTOBER NUMBERS WERE SHARED WITH YOU IN THE WASTE DIVERSION SPREADSHEET. AND BASED ON THAT, IT WAS LIKE THE FIRST SEVEN WEEKS WE HAVE COLLECTED ALMOST ONE TON OF FOOD WASTE AND COMPOSTABLES IN THAT PROGRAM. BUT YEAH, IT'S GOING PRETTY WELL. THERE HAVE BEEN THREE BUCKETS THAT HAVE NEEDED TO BE REPLACED. I THINK AT LEAST TWO OF THE THREE WERE RAN OVER BY THE HOMEOWNER. I THINK ONE OF THEM MIGHT HAVE BEEN A TEENAGE DRIVER THAT WAS THAT RAN OVER THEIR BUCKET. THAT WASN'T ME EITHER. SO YEAH, SO IT'S THREE NEW BUCKETS HAVE ALSO BEEN DISTRIBUTED. I THINK PEOPLE MIGHT FORGET THAT THEY'RE THERE BECAUSE YOU CAN'T SEE THEM LIKE YOU CAN THE TRASH BINS. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY FEEDBACK ON THE PROGRAM OR IT'S ANYTHING.

IT'S BEEN PERFECT SO FAR. THEY'VE SHOWN UP WHEN THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO AND ALWAYS LEAVE ME THE RUBBER BAND FOR THE IN THE NEW BAG. SO I HAVE ZERO COMPLAINTS ABOUT IT. MY HUSBAND HAS NO COMPLAINTS ABOUT IT. I JUST HOPE THAT WE CAN GET MORE PARTICIPATION SO THAT THIS CAN CONTINUE. AND IT IS ON TRASH DAY. IT IS ON TRASH DAY. THE ONLY DIFFICULTY AND IT'S WORKED OUT FINE. SO FAR ROOMKEY HAS NOT TAKEN MY COMPOST BIN AWAY. BECAUSE THE DRIVEWAY IS A LOT OF THE DRIVEWAYS AND WINDSOR ARE ABOUT THE SIZE OF THIS. MUCH OF THIS TABLE. I MEAN, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF ROOM TO PUT TRASH CAN RECYCLING AND THEN PUT THE SEPARATION THAT THEY WANT. IT'S WORKED OUT, BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS A CONCERN THE FIRST WEEK THAT THERE WASN'T ENOUGH ROOM THERE AND THAT WAS GOING TO PICK IT UP. BUT I THINK, I MEAN, THE

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CHELSEA, YOU SAID THAT THAT VIDEO IS COMING OUT. I THINK NEXT WEEK. NEXT WEEK I'M ASSUMING IT'LL BE NEXT THURSDAY. AND I'LL TRY TO SEND YOU A LINK ALSO. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THAT? OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT I. DON'T THINK I ACTUALLY DO THIS. I EMAILED THE INVASIVE TRADE IN PROGRAM UPDATE, BUT SINCE I EMAILED YOU, WE RECEIVED ANOTHER UPDATED SHEET FROM THEM. REAL QUICK. SO WE HAVE. 30 MISSIONS PENDING. APPLICATIONS. JUST. A. JUST THIS WEEK, MAYBE JUST DAYS AGO. SO SOON? I HAVE NO IDEA. I'M LEARNING ABOUT IT NOW. OKAY. SO THIS SHEET SHOWS. THE DATE OF APPROVAL AND IT SHOWS THE REMOVED INVASIVE SPECIES NUMBER REMOVED, AND THEN IT SHOWS THE REPLACEMENT, WHAT THEY CHOSE TO REPLACE IT WITH THE NATIVE TREES AND SHRUBS AND THE NUMBER OF NEW PLANTS. IT ALSO SHOWS THE REIMBURSEMENT AMOUNT TO THE RESIDENT, AND IT SHOWS HOW MUCH THEY SPENT. SO YOU CAN SEE SOME PEOPLE WENT WELL OVER THE $500, BUT OF COURSE THEY GOT REIMBURSED UP TO THE 500. AND WE'VE SPENT ABOUT $4,800 FROM THE BUDGET. AND ORIGINALLY FOR 2025, THERE WAS ABOUT $11,000 IN THE BUDGET. THAT'S WHAT THE POA WAS OPENED FOR, WAS, I THINK, 11 FIVE. CHELSEA, DO YOU MIND CHECKING JUST A SECOND ONE TO MICHAEL WEBER? I WONDER IF THESE ARE FLIPPED. IT SAYS REIMBURSEMENT OF 500, BUT THEY ONLY SPENT TWO 9992. AND I'M A GENEROUS PERSON, BUT. OH YEAH. I WONDER IF THAT'S A TYPO OR IF IT'S SPLIT TREE. TWO TREES. SO IT'S ALL DONE WHEN YOU HAVE TO SUBMIT THIS. THIS IS HOW I HAVE TO SUBMIT EVERYTHING, EVERYTHING YOU HAVE. AND THEN WHAT YOU'RE REQUESTING BACK.

YEAH I'LL DOUBLE CHECK ON THAT OKAY. THAT'S A GOOD CATCH. YEAH. LAST TIME. SO CHELSEA. DOES THE OPEN POA FOR 11 FIVE. THE APPLICATIONS THEY HAVE TO BE IN THIS CALENDAR YEAR TO CAPTURE

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DON'T WORRY. IT'S OKAY. IT'S A LOT OF DOGWOODS I THINK 18 IS EXCESSIVE. THAT'S NOT ME, NOT THE DOGWOODS. WE SPENT QUITE A BIT OF TIME, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO DECIDE IF 500 WAS TOO MUCH AND IF WE WERE GOING TO BURN THROUGH THAT MONEY. SO, I MEAN, TO ME, I'M PLEASED THAT THIS MANY PEOPLE DID IT, BUT I DON'T THINK 500 IS TOO MUCH. I THINK I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE SEEM LIKE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE HALF OF THEM WERE ACTUALLY UNDER THAT, BUT IT PUTS IT OUT THERE AS A NUMBER THAT'S BIG ENOUGH TO KIND OF CATCH PEOPLE'S ATTENTION, WHICH I LIKE. SO YEAH, I THINK OVERALL I'M PRETTY PLEASED IT'S GOT THAT MUCH. YEAH. AND SO ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION AS WELL. SO THEY REQUIRE THAT YOU SEND PICTURES OF THINGS PLANTED BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE I WAS. I WAS WAITING FOR SOME WORK TO BE DONE BY THE CITY ALONG THAT HARLEM. SO I WAS WAITING AND I'M LIKE, LOOK, I GOT 70% OF IT'S IN. I HAVE TO OVERWINTER A FEW THINGS, BUT BUT THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE EXPECTING. SO YEAH, I DON'T IMAGINE WE'LL GET ANYBODY ELSE COMING THROUGH. BUT THIS WAS I FEEL LIKE TO PETE'S POINT, LIKE THIS WAS A IT WAS A WOW NUMBER WE TALKED ABOUT AT LENGTH. AND I KNOW PEOPLE WERE AT LEAST BUZZY ABOUT IT. PEOPLE WERE EXCITED, LIKE THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT'S WORTH DIGGING INTO. SO. YEAH, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE AVERAGE SPEND IS $369 PER EVENT, SO IT'S MORE THAN FIVE. OKAY, OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

OKAY. THE NEXT ITEM I DON'T KNOW. BEFORE YOU LEAVE, WE HAVE TO TAKE A GROUP PHOTO BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO PUT IT ON THE NEW SUSTAINABILITY WEB PAGE. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE YOU A PREVIEW OF THE WEB PAGE. IT'S NOT LIVE YET, BUT AFTER I GET THE COMMUNICATIONS TEAM HERE, A LOVELY PHOTO. AFTER THIS EVENING, IT'LL GO LIVE. SO THIS IS WHAT THE PAGE WILL LOOK LIKE.

I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOUR PICTURE IS GOING TO GO, BUT THIS WHOLE PAGE WILL BE ALL OF THE SUSTAINABILITY INITIATIVES. RIGHT NOW, THERE ARE JUST A BUNCH OF PAGES ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE FOR EVERY PROJECT, AND NO ACTUAL LANDING PAGE. SO RIGHT NOW YOU'LL HAVE ALL OF THE PROGRAMS AND PROJECTS ON HERE. AND THEN IF YOU CLICK ON SOMETHING YOU CAN OR IF YOU HOVER OVER IT, THEY'LL FLIP TO GIVE A LITTLE BLURB. AND THEN YOU CAN CLICK TO LEARN MORE.

AND THEN THAT WILL LAUNCH THE. THE PAGE FOR THAT SPECIFIC PROJECT. SO ALL OF THOSE PROJECTS STILL HAVE THEIR OWN PAGE, BUT THEY WILL BE ACCESSED THROUGH HERE. SO YOU HAVE ALL OF THE EXISTING ITEMS FROM 2025 AND A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE BOARD. AND THEN WE DO HAVE A THING FOR THE GREEN GUARDIANS. AND PEOPLE CAN GO TO THE VOLUNTEER PAGE THROUGH HERE IF THEY'RE INTERESTED. BUT YEAH, IT'S PRETTY SIMPLE BUT HOPEFULLY USER FRIENDLY. IF PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING. GREAT. THAT'S COOL.

GOOD. DOES THE COMPOST PROGRAM, IS THAT STILL THE SIGN UP? SO PEOPLE COULD AT LEAST REGISTER FOR THE DROP OFF? OR ARE WE KIND OF ABANDON THAT THE THE DROP OFF PROGRAM. SO THE ONGOING COMPOST PROGRAM IS. THAT RIGHT HERE. RIGHT. YOU CAN STILL CLICK ON HERE AND IT'LL

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BUT YEAH, MADISON ON OUR COMMUNICATIONS TEAM DID THIS PAGE FOR US. YES. GREAT. YEAH.

SO DON'T LEAVE WITHOUT GETTING YOUR PICTURE TAKEN OR YOUR FACE IS SUPERIMPOSED WITH A PUMPKIN OR SOMETHING. ALL RIGHT. SO WE DO HAVE SEASONAL COMPOSTING AND RECYCLING OPPORTUNITIES GOING ON RIGHT NOW. THE ELECTION YARD SIGN RECYCLING IS STILL TAKING PLACE. YOU PROBABLY SAW THE BINS WHEN YOU CAME IN THIS EVENING. THEY'RE OUTSIDE THE BACK DOOR TOWARDS THE PARKING LOT. THERE'S STILL ABOUT ONE MORE WEEK FOR THAT. AND. WE WERE GOING TO START THE HOLIDAY LIGHTS RECYCLING ON DECEMBER 1ST, BUT PEOPLE SEEM TO BE DECORATING EARLIER AND EARLIER EVERY YEAR. SO WE ARE GOING TO JUST GO AHEAD ONCE THE ELECTION YARD SIGN COLLECTION IS OVER, WE USE THOSE SAME BINS. ONCE THOSE ARE EMPTIED, WE'LL PUT THE HOLIDAY LIGHTS, RECYCLING SIGNS ON THE BINS AND JUST LEAVE THE BINS OUT THERE SO PEOPLE CAN ACTUALLY START DROPPING OFF AS EARLY AS NEXT FRIDAY. SO OUR COMMUNICATIONS TEAM IS GOING TO UPDATE THE THE DATE AND ALL OF THEIR COMMUNICATIONS SO PEOPLE CAN START RECYCLING THEIR LIGHTS, AND THEN IT'LL GO THROUGH THE BEGINNING OF FEBRUARY. PEOPLE LIKE TO DECORATE EARLY AND DECORATE LATE. RIGHT. AND THE PUMPKIN COMPOSTING IS GOING ON. I WILL ACTUALLY I HAVE ANOTHER SLIDE FOR THAT, BUT ACTUALLY IT'S AFTER HERE. PEGGY TOOK SOME GREAT PHOTOS THE WEEKEND AFTER WE PUT THE FIRST DUMPSTER OUT THERE. AND THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE, THAT I THINK IT WAS OVER THE WEEKEND. SO THERE WERE PUMPKINS IN THERE AND THE DUMPSTER THAT WAS OUT THERE FOR THE COMMUNITY GARDENS WAS THE ONE THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE REMOVED. AND UNFORTUNATELY, THEY REMOVED THIS DUMPSTER. BUT LUCKILY THE VERY NEXT MORNING THEY DID HAVE A BRAND NEW DUMPSTER OUT THERE AND IT'S GETTING FULL. SO THEY'RE GOING TO BRING US AN EMPTY ONE BEFORE THE WEEKEND. AND THEN THE DUMPSTER THAT THEY ARE REMOVING ON FRIDAY WILL BE TAKEN TO OPIE, AND THEY'LL USE THAT IN THEIR COMPOSTING PROGRAM, AND THEY'LL GIVE US THE WEIGHT, AMOUNT AND EVERYTHING. YEAH. ANY QUESTIONS ON SEASONAL RECYCLING? I HAD A QUICK ONE. I ACTUALLY WANTED TO DO A QUICK STRAW POLL FROM THE BOARD. I WAS ON THE WAY OVER HERE, WAS THINKING ABOUT THE FACT OF SOMEBODY PUT A, A SERVICE LINE OF SOME SORT, I THINK GARBAGE HAULING OR SOMETHING THAT WAS THAT SAME KIND OF FORMAT SIGN. AND SO I GRABBED IT AND BROUGHT IT AND RECYCLED IT, AND WAS THINKING ABOUT HOW MANY SIGNS I HAD OVER THE YEARS IN HIGH SCHOOL FROM SPORTS AND, AND. THEATER AND WHATNOT. I WONDER IF THERE'S THE OPPORTUNITY, IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS, BECAUSE WE GENERALLY DO IT TWICE A YEAR WHEN THERE IS AN ELECTION, RIGHT? ASSUMING THAT WE'VE GOT A PRIMARY OF SOME SORT OR SPECIAL ELECTION, HOPEFULLY WE WON'T HAVE. BUT I WONDER ABOUT MESSAGING THIS MORE AS ELECTION SIGNS AND OTHER YARD SIGNS, OR JUST ADDING SOME VERBIAGE THAT MAYBE AGAIN, THE IDEA OF DIVERTING WHATEVER THOSE OTHER ONES MIGHT BE OUT OF TRASH CANS INTO THE RECYCLING OPPORTUNITY. THAT'S GOOD. BAD FOR NEXT YEAR.

YEAH. I DON'T WANT YOU TO CHANGE. NO, SINCE IT'S GOING TO END NEXT WEEK, BUT IT'S JUST A MATTER OF THROWING THE NET OUT A LITTLE WIDER SINCE WE'RE GOING TO BE GETTING THAT KIND OF SIGN ANYWAY. AND AGAIN, IF YOU DRIVE AROUND, THERE'S A TON OF THOSE SIGNS SITTING THERE.

SO JUST DURING LIKE THE TWO WEEK PERIOD THAT WE ALREADY RUN, IT, LET THEM KNOW THEY CAN DROP

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YEAH. AND IS THIS EXPENSIVE TO DO. YEAH. WHO WHO DOES THIS RUN THROUGH. SO STEVE KIDWELL FROM OUR SERVICE DEPARTMENT ACTUALLY HELPS ME WITH THIS. HE PUTS THE BINS OUT THERE AND MONITORS THEM PRETTY MUCH EVERY DAY. AND THEN HE COLLECTS THEM AND TAKES THEM TO OSWEGO FOR US. OH, OKAY.

SO THEY DON'T COME PICK IT UP. WE TAKE IT TO. YES. OKAY. SO IT'S JUST STAFF HOURS. OKAY. SO I GUESS IF WE SEE SIGNS COMING UP, IT'S SOMETHING WE COULD PIVOT TO PRETTY QUICKLY. IF WE WANT TO DO IT IN THE SPRING AS WELL. AND THEN MAYBE NEXT FALL WE CAST A WIDER NET AND SAY NOT JUST FOR ELECTION SIGNS, RIGHT? YOUR KIDS CAN GRADUATE FOR FIVE YEARS, CHARLES. THEY DON'T WANT THE SIGN. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE IN THEATER ANYMORE. YOU'RE NEVER GOING TO. I THINK I MAY HAVE ACTUALLY FINALLY THROWN OURS AWAY BECAUSE I COULDN'T REPURPOSE THEM. SO. YES, MAYBE DOING IT IN JUNE, LIKE LATER IN JUNE BECAUSE THE MAIN ELECTION WILL BE DONE, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE ALL THE GRADUATE AND ALL THE SPORT THINGS FROM YOUR KIDS IN THE YARD AND ALL THE $3 MILLION SIGNS YOU PAY FOR THAT YOU END UP WITH. HOW DO YOU DO WITH THOSE? RIGHT? LIKE YOU JUST HAVE TO GET RID OF UNLESS YOUR KIDS WANT TO TAKE THEM. YEAH, YEAH. THANK YOU. DO YOU WANT A MOTION FOR THAT? DO YOU WANT A MOTION FOR THAT? SURE. I MOVED TO ADD A YARD SIGN RECYCLING PERIOD IN THE SPRING TO BE DETERMINED ON A DATE. AND THEN WHEN THE FALL HAPPENS TO BROADEN THE INCLUSION OF YARD SIGNS FROM. THIS IS A REALLY YUCKY MOTION. YEAH. TO EXPAND THE PROGRAM TO ALL YARD SIGNS. SECOND WORDSMITH THAT I THINK I SECOND THAT RIGHT. YOU CARE TO REPEAT THAT? NO, I BET YOU COULDN'T, MR. SCHUMACHER. YES, MISS GALLO? YES, MR. BARNES? YES, MISS SCOTT. YES, MISTER? YES, MISS KOPPELMAN. YES, MISS LOPEZ? YES. MOTION PASSES. I'LL GET STEVE A COPY OR SOMETHING. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS TO UPDATE YOU ALL. I THINK IT WAS A COUPLE MONTHS AGO WHERE A COUPLE MEMBERS FROM THE COMMUNITY FOUNDATION WERE AT OUR MEETING, AND WE DISCUSSED THE OPPORTUNITY FOR QUARTERLY SUSTAINABILITY STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS. THE FIRST MEETING IS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE THIS FRIDAY, AND THE MEETING INTENT IS TO BRING TOGETHER ORGANIZATIONS AND INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE ALSO ENGAGED IN SUSTAINABILITY INITIATIVES WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. AND WE'RE GOING TO DO KIND OF A ROUND TABLE WHERE EVERYONE CAN SHARE THEIR SUSTAINABILITY INITIATIVES THAT THEY'RE WORKING ON OR GOALS THAT THEY HAVE, AND HOPEFULLY IDENTIFY OPPORTUNITIES TO COLLABORATE WITH ONE ANOTHER, ONE ANOTHER AND THEN WORK TOGETHER TOWARD SHARED OUTCOMES TO BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY AND OUR SUSTAINABILITY EFFORTS. THESE ARE THE. MEMBERS THAT WILL BE ATTENDING THE MEETING. PETE AND CHARLES WERE CHOSEN TO REPRESENT THIS BOARD, ALONG WITH CASEY AS OUR COUNCIL REP, AND PETE WILL ALSO BE REPRESENTING THE SCHOOLS. SO WE'LL HAVE A DUAL PURPOSE THERE. AND THEN ADRIAN AND I WILL BE AT THE MEETING TO REPRESENT CITY STAFF. AND THEN WE HAVE THE COMMUNITY FOUNDATION, PLAIN TOWNSHIP, NACO, THE SCHOOLS. AND THE CHAMBER. AND I THINK ONE OTHER OPTION MOVING FORWARD,

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PUTTING ANY DELINEATION ON STUFF. BUT I THINK SO. FOR INSTANCE, FROM SCHOOL, MR. KRAMER WAS DEALING MORE WITH WITH THE DISTRICT IS GOING WITH THINGS LIKE THE NEW BUILDING AND THAT KIND OF STUFF. OR PETE MIGHT BE DEALING MORE WITH BOOTS ON THE GROUND WITH THE SCIENCE PROGRAM AND ENVIRONMENTAL PROGRAM. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S, I GUESS IN MY MIND, I WAS EXPECTING THAT THAT'S, YOU KNOW, EITHER THROUGH PETE OR THROUGH KAREN JUST TO COMMUNICATION THAT THAT WOULD GET TO THOSE STUDENTS BECAUSE IT'S LESS ABOUT INPUT AND MORE ABOUT COORDINATION. OKAY. AND IF THEY COULDN'T EVOLVE. BUT I THINK WE INITIALLY PUT THIS TOGETHER, THAT WOULD BE IDEAL. JUST GETTING PEOPLE IN A ROOM THAT HAVE IMPACTS ON EACH OF THESE PROGRAMS AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO DO OR WE'VE TALKED ABOUT DOING OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS, SO WE CAN KIND OF HIT A ROADBLOCK AND THINKING ABOUT WHO HAS TO HAVE INPUT INTO IT. SO THIS IS ALSO MEANT TO MAYBE OPEN UP THOSE CHANNELS A LITTLE MORE. YEAH. PETE, DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE ENVIRONMENTAL CLUB HAS PLANNED FOR THE YEAR? IS THAT SOMETHING? OKAY, THAT THAT WAS THE MAIN THING I WANTED TO KNOW IS IF THEY HAVE SOMETHING GOING ON THAT WE COULD THEN HELP WITH, OR ONE OF THE OTHER GROUPS COULD HELP WITH. I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WAS INCLUDED BECAUSE THE PRINCIPAL PROBABLY WON'T KNOW. YEAH, MR. KRAMER PROBABLY WOULD KNOW, BUT YEAH. NO, I'M ADVISING THEM, SO.

OKAY, OKAY. COOL. SO HOPEFULLY THE JANUARY MEETING, THERE'LL BE A REPORT BACK TO THIS BOARD ON WHAT HAPPENED AT THIS MEETING AND THEN WHAT'S PLANNED FOR MOVING FORWARD. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR PUTTING TOGETHER. IT WAS NOT EASY. OKAY. THE NEXT ITEM IS THE WASTE DIVERSION. I GAVE YOU THE SPREADSHEET THAT I HAD EMAILED. YOU HAVE IN PAPER FORM. THE HISTORIC MISSING SOMETHING. OKAY. AN EXTRA TO OFFER TO ATTEND EXTRA. THE HISTORIC DATA WAS SOMETHING CHARLES HAD WORKED ON, AND I THINK THAT THE BOARD HAS SEEN IT BEFORE. AND THEN THE UP TO DATE 2025 DATA. JEFF WORKED ON PUTTING THAT TOGETHER. 2025 DATA. I HAVE TWO EXTRA COPIES IF YOU WANT AND THEN. THIS IS OUR HISTORIC DATA. I WAS GOING TO. JEFF, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU WANT TO KICK OFF WITH IN TERMS OF THINGS THAT YOU NOTICED WHEN YOU WERE PUTTING ON THIS SPREADSHEET TOGETHER? I MEAN, IT'S HARD TO DRAW ANY CONCLUSIONS RIGHT NOW. I MEAN, I LOOKED AT THIS AS JUST GATHERING DATA JUST TO SEE IF THERE'S TRENDS AND THINGS THAT MIGHT OBVIOUSLY COME OUT. I MEAN, ONE THING THAT'S, YOU KNOW, STOOD OUT TO ME QUICKLY IS LIKE MONTH OF MAY. WE HAD A LOT OF MORE WASTE GENERATED, YOU KNOW? SO I WAS LIKE, WHY IS THAT TYPE OF THING? WHY DO WE HAVE A SURGE? YOU KNOW, IN MY MIND, I WAS THINKING IN MAY, PEOPLE ARE DOING A SPRING CLEAN OUTS. AND SO THEY'RE GETTING

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ONE THING I DID DO A LITTLE MORE RESEARCH. I WAS LIKE, HOW DO WE COMPARE AS A WASTE GENERATED PER HOUSEHOLD PER WEEK? AND THEN WHEN I LOOKED AT SOME EPA STUDIES, IT WAS CLOSER TO 80 POUNDS PER HOUSEHOLD PER WEEK. AND WE'RE IN THE OUT AT 47 POUNDS. SO WHY IS THAT AND WHY DO WE GENERATE IF THE NUMBERS ARE TRUE, WHY ARE WE AS A COMMUNITY GENERATING LESS THAN THE NATIONAL AVERAGE FOR A HOUSEHOLD? YOU KNOW, SO WE CAN DO IT A LITTLE BIT. AND SOMETIMES SOCIOECONOMIC INFLUENCES, NUMBER OF PEOPLE PER HOUSEHOLD HAS AN IMPACT, YOU KNOW. SO THOSE ARE ALL VARIABLES THAT WE DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW AT THIS POINT TO KIND OF EXPLAIN OUR TRASH SITUATION HERE IN NEW ALBANY. SO THAT'S JUST KIND OF MY $0.02.

SO JUST TO REITERATE THAT, JEFF, THAT NATIONAL AVERAGE IS WHAT I THOUGHT I SAW WAS ABOUT 80 POUNDS PER HOUSE, POUNDS PER WEEK PER HOUSEHOLD. AND WAS THAT THE AVERAGE HOUSEHOLD OF THREE PEOPLE, OR WAS IT THE AVERAGE HOUSEHOLD OF. BECAUSE I KNOW THERE WERE DIFFERENT NUMBERS, DIFFERENT NUMBERS, AND IT WAS A HIGHER NUMBER THAN I EXPECTED AS THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE PER HOUSEHOLD. SO. YEAH, WHEN I SO MY THING THAT I FOCUS IN ON, IN DOING THIS AND TRACKING THROUGH IT IS LOOKING AT THE PERCENTAGE OF DIVERSION. WITH THE IDEA THAT IF WE'RE OFFERING MORE OPTIONS FOR DIVERTING WASTE, THAT THAT PERCENTAGE SHOULD BE GROWING.

AND I THINK THE LAST TIME WE TALKED ABOUT THIS CASING, WE'RE LOOKING AT THESE NUMBERS YOU HAD CHALLENGED ABOUT KIND OF THE RAW DATA PIECE. AND I WAS LOOKING AT CHANGE MONTH TO MONTH TO MONTH KIND OF DEAL. SO I WENT BACK AND JUST THREW IN ON ON JEFF'S TOP SHEET. IT'S ABOUT THREE QUARTERS OF THE WAY THROUGH IN THAT TOP TABLE. SO YOU SEE THIS YEAR WE'RE AT ABOUT 27 EIGHT. IT'S THE LAST LINE ON THE SECOND PAGE THAT THAT IS THE HISTORICAL LAST YEAR WAS 28 SIX, THEN 29. AND WE WERE 30.2 AND 2022 WITHOUT A COMPOSTING PROGRAM. SO PART OF MY ISSUE HAS BEEN A IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD BE THINKING ABOUT TACKLING AS A GOAL OF A NUMBER, A PERCENTAGE DIVERSION NUMBER, AND THEN WORKING INTO HOW CAN I GET ACCOMPLISHED? BECAUSE I DON'T FOR ME, I'M LESS WORRIED. LIKE THE COMPOSTING IS GREAT, IT'S IT'S ANOTHER OPTION. BUT I DON'T WANT TO BE SO SOLELY FOCUSED ON ONE DIVERSION TACTIC AS OPPOSED TO WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GET THINGS OUT OF THE LANDFILL. DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT THE PARTICIPATION RATE IS AT THE CURBSIDE RECYCLING FOR THE BOTTLES AND CANS FROM RUMPKE? PARTICIPATION RATE FROM THE RECYCLING PROGRAM? I'M JUST CURIOUS, BECAUSE IF WE'RE 70% WITH A FOOD WASTE COMPOSTING, ARE WE 50% WITH THE BOTTLES AND CANS IN THERE, OR IS IT 80%, OR IS IT 20%? AND THEN LOOKING AT THAT NUMBER OVER THE YEARS, WOULD IT SAY, ARE PEOPLE JUST BECOMING COMPLACENT? ARE THEY NOT. YOU KNOW, THEY'RE THEY'RE TIRED OF IT. YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THE REASONS WHY IT'S GOTTEN EASIER TO DO RECYCLING. YOU'RE NOT DOING THE SMALL BINS ANYMORE. YOU GOT MORE OPTIONS. IT'S BIGGER. IT'S MORE CONVENIENT. SO PEOPLE SHOULD WANT TO PARTICIPATE MORE. BUT WHAT ARE THE BARRIERS THAT WE'RE RUNNING INTO A LITTLE BIT? PARTICIPATION RATE IS AT 100%. YEAH. AND I THINK MAYBE MAYBE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.

PARTICIPATION I'VE BEEN OUT. OR MAYBE THE SECOND PART OF WHERE YOU'RE GETTING TO IS I'VE

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I MY ASSUMPTION OR MY ASSERTION IS THAT PEOPLE ARE MAYBE NOT BEING AS THOROUGH AS THEY COULD BE IN DOING IT, WHICH IS WHY I BROUGHT UP AT ONE POINT, RUMPKE OFFERED THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO THROUGH AND DO AUDITS. YOU KNOW, IF THEY GO THROUGH AND LAY OUT EVERYONE'S TRASH AND KIND OF SAY, HERE'S HERE'S WHERE YOU'VE GOT SOME OPPORTUNITIES, YOU'VE LEFT SOME STUFF HERE KIND OF DEAL. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S STILL SOMETHING THAT'S AN OPPORTUNITY THAT THEY'D BE OFFERING TO DO, BUT IT'S CERTAINLY BEEN ON TOUR IN THE WINTER TIME. BUT THAT COULD BE A MAYBE A SPRING PROJECT TO, TO ENGAGE IN JUST AS AN EDUCATIONAL. IT WAS DONE.

EDUCATIONAL. IT WASN'T DONE TO BE, YOU KNOW, SHAMING, TRASH SHAMING. WE DON'T WANT THAT.

ONE THING THAT I'VE NOTICED IN TALKING TO PEOPLE WHO SAY THEY DON'T RECYCLE, IT'S BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE THAT THE RECYCLE IS GOING INTO THE TRASH WHEN IT GETS TO RUMKI. A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE UNDER THAT IMPRESSION THAT IT DOESN'T MATTER. IT'S ALL GOING IN THE TRASH, WHICH OF COURSE WE KNOW IS TOTALLY INCORRECT. I THINK IN THE CURRENT POLITICAL CLIMATE, TOO, THAT'S NOT HELPING MATTERS WITH AN ADMINISTRATION THAT DOESN'T SEEM TO SEE THAT THERE'S ANY KIND OF A PROBLEM WITH. THE ENVIRONMENT. AND I DON'T KNOW HOW WE CAN CONVINCE PEOPLE THAT FROM LIKE FROM DIRECTLY FROM RUMPKE HERE'S, THIS IS ALL GOING TO THE LANDFILL. THIS IS ALL GOING, BEING RECYCLED, LIKE JUST TO EDUCATE PEOPLE ON IT REALLY IS BEING RECYCLED AS OPPOSED TO IT'S ALL GOING AT THE SAME PLACE. WHY SHOULD I BOTHER SEPARATING EVERYTHING OUT? I MEAN, DOES RUN THOSE COMMERCIALS THAT SAY YOUR CLASS IS GOING TO BE GOES HERE FIRST, AND IT ENDS UP GOING TO THIS GLASS MANUFACTURING PLACE IN OHIO, OR THE SAME THING WITH PLASTICS. SO THEY'RE TRYING TO GET THE WORD OUT COMMERCIALS ON TV. SEE, I DON'T I DON'T SEE COMMERCIALS ANYMORE. I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T SEE COMMERCIALS. SO I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S THE BEST WAY TO REACH PEOPLE. I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER. I JUST KNOW THAT IS PART OF THE PROBLEM IS THAT PEOPLE JUST THINK THAT IT'S A WASTE OF TIME BECAUSE IT'S JUST GOING TO THE LANDFILL. ANYWAYS, IT'S A REALLY GOOD POINT. I WONDER IF LIKE, YOU KNOW, JOSH POLAND DOES THOSE AMAZING VIDEOS, IF HE DID ONE LIKE TOURING THE NEW RUMPKE MURF. AND HERE'S WHAT'S ACTUALLY HAPPENING, YOU KNOW, AND HERE'S WHY WE SHOULD BE RECYCLING. BECAUSE I AGREE WITH YOU. I THINK THERE ARE TOO MANY PEOPLE WHO REALLY DON'T BELIEVE THAT RECYCLING IS A REAL THING, WHICH IS RIDICULOUS. AND I THINK WE'RE THERE NOW. THE VERDICT'S RECYCLING PLANT THAT WE HAVE IN NEW ALBANY IS TAKING PLASTIC INTO ALBANY, RECYCLING IT, BRINGING DOWN THE RESIN, RECREATING THE BOTTLES. GOING BACK TO AXIOM PACKAGING, I MEAN, IT'S LIKE A FULL LOOP RIGHT HERE IN NEW ALBANY THAT HAVE THEY BEEN HIGHLIGHTED ON ANY OF THE. THAT'S IT. WE HAD TALKED ABOUT IT WHEN THEY WERE FIRST GETTING UP AND RUNNING, BUT THEY'VE BEEN HAVING FOR A YEAR NOW. RIGHT. IS THE SOURCE OF THEIR MATERIAL RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL? MOSTLY, YEAH, PROBABLY MOSTLY COMMERCIAL. OKAY. BUT IT'S STILL A GREAT STORY. YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, JUST THE LOOP WITHIN NEW ALBANY TO RECYCLE AND RECREATE THESE, THESE ITEMS. AND IT'S TRUE. IT'S A GREAT STORY. AND MAYBE THIS IS BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WITH RECYCLED MATERIAL, RIGHT? IT COMES BACK. SO WE COULD I KNOW THAT WAS A KERNEL THAT JOSH WAS GOING TO DO SOMETHING WITH. AND MAYBE IT'S TIME TO SEE WHERE HE'S AT WITH THAT. YEAH I CAN. DEFINITELY TALK TO THE COMMUNICATIONS TEAM ABOUT. YOU KNOW, PUTTING SOME EDUCATION PIECES. AND NOW THAT WE HAVE OUR OWN WEBSITE, THAT'S THE KIND OF THING THAT CAN BE ON THERE AS WELL TO HAVE THOSE VIDEOS HIGHLIGHTED ON THE WEBSITE FOR IF PEOPLE HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT WHERE THEIR RECYCLING IS GOING. AND ONCE OUR PICTURES ON THERE, IT'S

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THE DIVERSION RATE HAS GONE DOWN VERSUS WHERE IT WAS MAYBE A LOT LIKE I THINK WE'RE DOING A I THINK WE'RE WELL, WE'RE ADDING OPTIONS. EITHER WE'RE PUTTING MORE THINGS IN THE LANDFILL OR WE'RE NOT DIVERTING. I MEAN, WELL, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING. MORE THINGS TO LANDFILL.

SO YEAH, IF I MEAN THE GOAL OF THE REASON WE GOT IN, ONE OF THE MAJOR TENETS OF THIS GROUP WAS WASTE DIVERSION. SO TO ME, IF WE'RE NOT KEEPING ON TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO INCREASE THAT DIVERSION NUMBER, THEN ARE WE GOING TO DO I'M NOT SURE WHAT WE'RE DOING. WELL, I GUESS, ARE WE IS IT GOING TO CHANGE OUR PROGRAMING AND STRATEGY IF THERE'S AN ARBITRARY NUMBER THAT WE SELECTED, IT MAY BECAUSE THIS IS SO WHERE I GO WITH THIS IS LIKE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE, IS WE'RE GOING TO BE GOING INTO CONSORTIUM NEGOTIATIONS. I'VE THROWN OUT THE IDEA THAT MAYBE WE GO INTO A DEAL WITH RUMPKE, WHERE YOU GET A 96 GALLON TRASH AS A STANDARD, AND IF YOU REQUEST A SECOND ONE OR IF YOU'VE GOT ADDITIONAL THINGS, YOU'RE CHARGED AT A HIGHER RATE THAN THAT ONE CAN. AND IT'S CHEAPER IF YOU GO SMALLER. WELL, YEAH. SORRY. TIER TWO. TIER TWO IS OFFERING A SMALLER OPTION THAT WOULD BE LESS MONEY FOR THE CAN AND OR THE WAIT. SO IT GETS TO TO A VOLUME BASED PRICING STRATEGY. I'VE DONE SOME RESEARCH. THERE ARE PLACES NEW YORK'S ONE OF THEM, BUT THERE'S A NUMBER OF SMALLER COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE THEY GO BY WEIGHT. AND I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NECESSARILY WANT TO GO DOWN THE PATH OF TRYING TO NEGOTIATE WITH THEM ON ADDING SCALES ONTO THEIR TRUCKS, BUT BY VOLUME, IT'S A PRETTY CUT AND DRY TYPE OF THING IN TERMS OF YOU GOT 96 OR YOU'VE GOT A 48 GALLON CAN AND YOU'VE GOT TWO OF THOSE OR WHAT THEY MAY BE. SO YOU'RE JUST YOU'RE INCENTIVIZING THE CUSTOMER TO AND RESIDENT TO WASTE LESS AND PUT LESS THAN THE LANDFILL. SO THAT'S AN OPTION. DOING THESE, YOU KNOW, EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS ABOUT ARE YOU RECYCLING IS THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF THINGS YOU CAN RECYCLE. IS IS AN IDEA ROLLING OUT ASSUMING THE SUCCESS OF THE PILOT PROGRAM FOR COMPOSTING, ROLLING THAT OUT CITYWIDE IS PART OF THAT PROGRAM. ALL THOSE THINGS SHOULD BE ADDING TO A HIGHER DIVERSION NUMBER. ULTIMATELY, HOPEFULLY WE'RE NOT INCENTIVIZE PEOPLE TO GO WASTE MORE. AND THAT NUMBER DOESN'T CHANGE. SO THAT'S THAT'S THE PURPOSE TO ME OF SETTING A GOAL AND THEN MAKING IT, YOU KNOW, PUTTING

[01:30:06]

IT'S THE EASIEST THING TO TRACK, YOU KNOW, THE THINGS YOU GET OFF KILTER ON THAT ARE THE, YOU KNOW, PUT OUT A SOFA BECAUSE YOU'LL TAKE JUST ABOUT ANYTHING. BUT THERE'S ALSO WAYS OF DOING THAT IN PLACES WHERE I'VE LIVED IS THAT HAS TO BE A SPECIAL DAY OR YOU HAVE TO CALL AHEAD OR WHATEVER. SO IT'S HANDLED KIND OF OFF LINE FROM EVERYTHING ELSE. SO I WILL SAY THAT WE'RE PART OF A CONSORTIUM. AND SO OUR BIDDING IS DONE WITH A HANDFUL OF OTHER COMMUNITIES AS WELL. SO IT WOULD REQUIRE CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM TO GET ON BOARD. AND. THE BID FOR 2027 IS BEING POSTED THIS MONTH. RIGHT. THAT'S WHAT I TALKED ABOUT THIS FOR THE LAST FEW MONTHS. WE KEPT SAYING, YEAH, WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT. IT'S IT'S MORE THAN A MATTER OF JUST THE BOARD VOTING THAT YOU WANT TO DO THIS AND US PUTTING IT IN OUR NEW ALBANY BID, BECAUSE WE HAVE FIVE OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT WOULD HAVE TO AGREE TO DO THIS AS WELL. ARE YOU SAYING THAT THE MORE BINS YOU HAVE, OR THE LESS BINS YOU HAVE WOULD BE DETERMINED ON HOW MUCH YOU PAY AS A RESIDENT? SO IT'S A VOLUME BASED PAY SCALE OR THE SIZE OF THE WHAT IF THEY DON'T USE THE BIN? WHAT IF THEY JUST PUT BAGS OF TRASH OUT AT THE CURB? YEAH, WE THE DRIVERS WOULD HAVE TO COUNT THE BAGS OF TRASH AND DOCUMENT THEM. THIS IS WHERE I DON'T HAVE TO SOLVE BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE THE BUSINESS. THIS IS GETTING A CARRIER INVOLVED WITH DISCUSSING HOW IT SHOULD BE DONE. I MEAN, I WOULD THINK YOU CAN GENERALLY LOOK AT A BAG AND GO GET THREE OF THOSE BAGS, BUT THAT'S 96 GALLONS. BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW SOMEONE DOES THAT. SO I DON'T HAVE THE EVERY

[01:35:01]

WESTERVILLE I DON'T KNOW, IT MIGHT BE TOO BIG. DO YOU THINK IT'S HAREBRAINED? I APPRECIATE YOUR WEIGHING IN ON IT. WHAT'S THAT? DO YOU THINK THAT'S A HAREBRAINED IDEA? I THINK IT'S WORTH ASKING, RIGHT? I MEAN, IF IT'S SOMETHING, THAT'S BECAUSE WE'RE STILL TALKING ABOUT THE TIER. SOME SORT OF VERSION OF THAT, RIGHT? YEAH. I MEAN, I MEAN, ULTIMATELY, ULTIMATELY, IT'S GOING TO COME DOWN TO CAPABILITY OF URUMQI, RIGHT? ULTIMATELY, I WOULD LIKE I WOULD IMAGINE THAT IF IT WORKED OUT PROPERLY, THAT DEPENDING ON HOW THE PRICING HAPPENS, THAT YOU COULD ACTUALLY END UP OFFSETTING SOME OF THE RECYCLING FEES SO IT DOESN'T HAVE TO COME BACK ON THE CITY NECESSARILY, IT WOULD BE A COMPLETELY SUBSIDIZED ITEM.

YEAH. I MEAN, SOME HOUSES WITH DIFFERENT SIZED TRASH CANS, LIKE WITH THE SMALLER TRASH CANS, I HAVE A SMALL ONE, BUT I PAY FULL PRICE, THE SAME AMOUNT. OH, BUT YOU PAY FOR. YEAH. I WAS GOING TO ASK LIKE, NO, MINE IS JUST ONE THAT WE BOUGHT. WE DIDN'T WANT THAT GIANT. I SEE WHEN WE'RE ONLY PUTTING ONE BAG IN THERE. BUT IF YOU WANT IT, ALL, YOU HAVE TO DO IT BY YOURSELF. I BOUGHT IT MYSELF. YES. I MEAN, WE JUST DID THAT. WE TOLD THEM WHEN WE SAW HOW GIANT THAT THING WAS THAT WHEN THEY BROUGHT IT OUT. YEAH. NOW THE RECYCLE BIN WE HAVE FILLED UP BEFORE, ESPECIALLY LIKE AFTER CHRISTMAS OR WHATEVER, ALTHOUGH THERE'S LESS GOING IN THERE NOW THANKS TO THE HEFTY PROGRAM, BECAUSE WE HAVE STUFF WE PUT IN THERE AS WELL. SO YEAH, WE JUST BOUGHT DIDN'T WANT THAT SECOND GIANT CAN THERE. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY OFFER THEM TO I THOUGHT I DID SOME RESEARCH A WHILE BACK AND THEY DO OFFER THEM IN DIFFERENT MARKETS THAT WE JUST DON'T KNOW. TO THAT END WE DON'T HAVE. YEAH.

YES. OUR CONSORTIUM IS BEXLEY, BLENDON TOWNSHIP DUBLIN, GAHANNA, HILLIARD MIFFLIN TOWNSHIP. PLAIN TOWNSHIP, REYNOLDSBURG, WASHINGTON TOWNSHIP AND WESTERVILLE. OH OKAY. SO THAT'S NOT THERE'S MORE NOW. YEAH, YEAH.

[01:40:14]

SO I CAN TALK TO BOTH OF THEM. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER? ITEMS OF THAT? IT'S NOT SEGWAYS NICELY INTO THE NEXT ITEM. YES. SUPPOSE THAT MERV, I WAS TALKING TO ONE OF OUR KEY CONTACTS. THE GENTLEMAN JAKE. JAKE FROM JAKE? NOT JAKE. ABOUT SETTING UP A TOUR FOR THE FIRST QUARTER OF NEXT YEAR. IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN DOING THAT. BUT THEY'RE NEW, MERV. AND IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN GOING ON A TOUR, ONE OPTION WOULD BE TO DO THE TOUR IN PLACE OF A REGULAR MEETING, BECAUSE SOMETIMES IT'S HARD TO GET EVERYONE'S SCHEDULES TO ALIGN OUTSIDE OF THIS ALREADY PRE-SCHEDULED MEETING. SO IF YOU WANT, THAT IS AN OPTION. SO IF YOU WANT TO DO THE TOUR AND THEN DO YOU WANT TO DO IT DURING THE TIME THAT WE WOULD NORMALLY MEET, OR WOULD YOU RATHER TRY TO FIND A SECONDARY. WHERE IS THE FACILITY? I DON'T KNOW THE ADDRESS. CHARLES IS ACTUALLY BEEN ON THE TOUR ALREADY. IT'S IN COLUMBUS, LIKE 71. YEAH.

FIFTH AVENUE. OKAY. CAN WE SNAG THE TOUR BUS FOR IT? YOU KNOW IT. I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF IT LEAVES THE CITY, BUT I CAN FIND OUT. WELL, WE TOOK IT LAST TIME, SO I THINK THEY WOULD OPEN THE FACILITY FOR US IN THE EVENING. DID YOU? THEY WILL. YES. ACTUALLY, OUR SENIOR CONNECTIONS GROUP JUST TOOK A TOUR, SO I'M GUESSING THEY ALL WROTE TOGETHER ON THE BUS. BUT YEAH, THEY'LL THEY'LL DO IT IN THE EVENING, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT. THEY'RE PROBABLY RUNNING MORE THAN JUST ONE SHIFT TOO. YEAH, SURE. YEAH, YEAH. I MEAN, THESE TYPE OF THINGS CAN RUN TWO SHIFTS AND EVEN SOMETIMES 24 HOURS. OKAY. THE GOOD THING ABOUT DOING IT DURING A MEETING TIME ALSO, OTHER THAN YOU GUYS ALREADY HAVE IT ON YOUR CALENDARS, IS WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT QUORUM ISSUES BECAUSE WE WOULD ALREADY BE ADVERTISING IT AS A MEETING.

JUST THE LOCATION WOULD BE CHANGED. BUT IF YOU WANT TO MEET AT A DIFFERENT DAY AND TIME, AND WE HAVE A MORE THAN FOUR MEMBERS ATTEND, THEN I CAN JUST ADVERTISE IT AS A SECONDARY MEETING. BUT IF YOU WANT TO THINK ABOUT IT AND LET ME KNOW RIGHT THERE. FIRST QUESTION DO WE WANT TO TAKE THE TOUR? YES, YES, YES. AND THEN SINCE WE'RE NOT MEETING IN DECEMBER, PROBABLY SHOULDN'T DO IT IN PLACE OF THE JANUARY MEETING. CORRECT. SO MAYBE FEBRUARY OR MARCH, POTENTIALLY MARCH. WE'RE PUSHING UP ON ALL OUR EARTH AND ARBOR DAY STUFF, SO MIGHT BE BUSY ONE, BUT MAYBE FEBRUARY, MAYBE FEBRUARY. YEAH, IT'S PRETTY DARN COLD OUT THERE.

SUCK IT UP. WE'LL BE FINE. OKAY, INSIDE, I MAY NOT BE JOINING BECAUSE I'VE BEEN TO SO MANY.

I'VE BEEN, I'VE BEEN. WE'LL JUST LET. IT WON'T SMELL AS BAD OCCUR. YES. WHY YES. SO WE'LL JUST PLAN FOR FEBRUARY 11TH TO BE THE TOUR. WHICH. SORRY, I SHOULD CHECK MY NOTES. I CAN'T REMEMBER JANUARY. FEBRUARY. WE DO OUR ORGANIZATIONAL MEETING. JANUARY. WE DID IT IN FEBRUARY THIS YEAR BECAUSE THERE WAS NO MEETING IN JANUARY. WE DIDN'T HAVE A QUORUM. RIGHT. SO EVERYONE BE THERE. ALL RIGHT. GOOD. FEBRUARY. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO JUST ONE ANNOUNCEMENT. WE WERE ABLE TO SECURE A SPOT AT THE INDOOR FARMER'S MARKET ON SATURDAY, DECEMBER 6TH TO

[01:45:11]

YES. I THINK WE STILL NEED TO KEEP PUSHING THAT. YEAH. YEAH. I THOUGHT WE COULD. YOU HAVE TO THEN YOU CAN JUST DO A REGULAR RUMPKE RECYCLING. TO YOUR POINT, WHAT DO YOU RECYCLE? HOW DO YOU RECYCLE? IF THAT'S IF THAT STUFF IS AVAILABLE, THROW OUT THE IDEA. SO WE COULD DO RECYCLING. AND IF YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING WITH ONE OR BOTH FOOD WASTE PROGRAMS. YOU CAN DO THAT TOO. ALL RIGHT. AND THEN ALSO FIND OUT IF ANYBODY LIVES IN WINDSOR AND REALLY. SO COULD WE HAVE ONE OF THE YELLOW BUCKETS. YEAH. INFORMATION ABOUT THAT TO SIGN UP. FOR THIS FARMER'S MARKET. I'M JUST THROWING THIS OUT AS A THOUGHT. WHAT IF WE SET UP LIKE A SURVEY MONKEY AND ASK SOME OF THE QUESTIONS, YOU KNOW, DO YOU RECYCLE? YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU KNOW? OR DO YOU NOT RECYCLE? AND IF THEY SAY NO, WHAT? WHY DON'T YOU MAYBE GET SOME FEEDBACK FROM PEOPLE? ARE THERE? LIKE A LITTLE QR CODE? EITHER THAT OR A TWO MINUTE SURVEY ABOUT RECYCLING THIS COOL NEW ALBANY. PEN? YEAH, SO WE HAVE SUNGLASSES AND SUNGLASSES AND CHAPSTICK. YEAH. OKAY. CHAPSTICK IN DECEMBER. THAT'S THAT'S IMPORTANT. YEAH, YEAH.

OKAY. AND IT WON'T BE READY FOR DECEMBER, BUT WE'LL TOUCH BASE ON THE HAND SANITIZER THING, I THINK. I THINK I FIGURED THAT OUT OKAY. THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. WE CAN DO A SURVEY AND THEN HAVE A QR CODE WITH OTHER MATERIALS. FOR. ALL RIGHT. SO OUR LAST ITEM IS JUST SOME REMINDERS. YOU'VE ALREADY MENTIONED THERE'S NO MEETING IN DECEMBER, BUT THERE IS THE VOLUNTEER APPRECIATION EVENT ON TUESDAY DECEMBER 9TH. SO IF YOU HAVE NOT YET AND YOU WOULD LIKE TO ATTEND, PLEASE RSVP. WHAT TIME IS THAT? 530 TO 7 30 TO 7 OKAY. WHERE'S THAT? IT'S AT BRICKHOUSE BLUE. IS EVERYONE FAMILIAR WITH THAT LOCATION ON WALTON PARKWAY? OKAY, I CAN SEND YOU THE INFORMATION AGAIN. BUT, YEAH, IT'S THERE AND THERE'LL BE FOOD AND DRINKS AND A GOOD TIME. AND IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THAT SPACE, IT'S REALLY COOL. CO-WORKING SPACE, LIKE FULL BAR. I'M NOT SAYING WE WON'T HAVE. YEAH, THAT'S. THAT'S WHERE YOU'VE BEEN WHEN I CAN. IS THAT, IS IT LIKE AN OPEN HOUSE SITUATION COME AND GO? BECAUSE I'VE GOT CHOIR REHEARSAL THAT NIGHT TOO, SO LIKE I CAN. GO TO I ASK CHELSEA IF IT WAS CASUAL BECAUSE ASHER HAS MIDDLE SCHOOL BAND CONCERT AT SEVEN, BUT I CAN'T THAT I CANNOT MISS. SO IT IS A PROGRAM, BUT IT'S VERY CASUAL. YOU CAN COME AND GO. I'M LEAVING EARLY ALSO. OKAY. MY SON HAS A CHOIR CONCERT THAT NIGHT, SO, YOU KNOW, DECEMBER IS CRAZY. BUT YEAH, FEEL FREE TO, YOU KNOW, COME AND GO. DON'T FEEL LIKE IF YOU CAN'T BE THERE FOR THE WHOLE THING, THAT YOU CAN'T COME AT ALL, OKAY? AND THERE'LL BE SWAG BAGS AND BINGO, THEY'LL BE FUN. AND YOU HAVE TO GET YOUR HEADSHOT, GET YOUR PICTURE TAKEN BECAUSE THEY WANT TO HAVE EVERYONE'S PICTURES FOR THAT

[01:50:02]

[VII. Other Business]

AND I THINK PEOPLE FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE SPEAKING FREELY ABOUT THEIR GIVING THEIR INPUT INSTEAD OF BEING IN SUCH A FORMAL SETTING LIKE THIS. SO IN FEBRUARY, WE HAD TALKED ABOUT MAYBE MOVING OUR MEETINGS IN THERE. THE ONLY THING IS THERE WOULD BE NO MORE RECORDING. WE WOULD LOSE THE RECORDING OF THE MEETINGS. I STILL WOULD TAKE MINUTES. OF COURSE, THERE WOULD STILL BE A LEGAL RECORD OF THE MINUTES OF THE MEETING. SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO HAVE A MEETING THERE MAYBE IN JANUARY AND KIND OF FEEL IT OUT AND SEE HOW YOU THINK IT'S GOING TO GO. AND WE CAN ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, PLAN IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE VOTING ON, LIKE BUDGET SEASON AND YOU FEEL LIKE THE PUBLIC WOULD REALLY LIKE TRANSPARENCY AND TO HAVE A RECORDING OF THE MEETING, ANYTIME YOU'RE MAKING A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL, YOU KNOW, WE CAN KIND OF CHOOSE IF YOU WANT TO HAVE IT IN HERE AND HAVE IT BE RECORDED, OR IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT YOU REALLY WANT TO, YOU KNOW, SIT AROUND THE TABLE AND ROLL UP YOUR SLEEVES AND HAVE LIKE MORE OF A WORKSHOP STYLE MEETING. WE CAN DECIDE. SO WE REALLY JUST HAVE TO. WHEN YOU SET YOUR MEETING DATE, LOCATION AND TIME AND JANUARY, THE LOCATION IS VILLAGE HALL, AND THEN YOU CAN HAVE THE DISCRETION TO MOVE BACK TO THE MEETING ROOM. AS LONG AS I PUT IT ON THE AGENDA AHEAD OF TIME. SO JUST THROWING THAT OUT THERE SO YOU CAN DECIDE WHERE YOU WANT TO HAVE THE JANUARY MEETING. AND OR MAYBE YOU WANT TO KIND OF MULL IT OVER AND DECIDE IN JANUARY. AND CHELSEA WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, YES, THE MEETING ROOM RIGHT HERE. SO WE HAVE THE DOOR OPEN. I THINK IT'S TOO SMALL. IT'S PRETTY, PRETTY TIGHT QUARTERS.

IT'S I THINK IT'S FINE IF WE DECIDE, OKAY, THIS MONTH, LET'S GO IN HERE BECAUSE WE'VE GOT PAPERS TO PUT OUT OR WHATEVER. BUT I MEAN, WE HAD SIX, SEVEN PEOPLE HERE TONIGHT THAT WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO GO IN THERE UNLESS THEY STOOD UP AGAINST THE WALLS. AND IT'S ALREADY I'M ALREADY CLOSE ENOUGH TO CHARLES. WE ALL ARE. WE ALL? YEAH. ANOTHER OPTION IS TO HAVE THE MEETING IN HERE. AND THEN IT WOULD STILL BE RECORDED THIS WAY. WE STAYED IN HERE, BUT YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO SIT AT THE DAIS. WE COULD WHEN WE HAD THE MAD SCIENTIST HERE EARLIER THIS YEAR, AND WE HAD THE TABLES AND WE SAT AROUND THE TABLES, THE MEETING WOULD BE RECORDED. I DON'T KNOW HOW GOOD THE AUDIO IS BECAUSE WE WOULDN'T BE SPEAKING INTO THESE MICROPHONES, BUT IT WOULD BE A WAY TO SIT AT A TABLE TOGETHER AND SHARE AND CONVERSE MORE OPENLY AROUND THE TABLE THAN FEELING LIKE. YOU HAVE TO SIT UP THERE. I GUESS. IS THERE AN ISSUE? LIKE, DO WE FEEL STIFLED HERE? LIKE, OR WOULD WE DO WE THINK WE'D BE MORE COLLABORATIVE WITH STAFF? I'D LIKE TO HAVE OTHER PEOPLE LIKE I MEAN, SOME OF US HAVE SAT THROUGH BOTH FORMATS AND THAT'S I'M CURIOUS IF I THINK IF IT WOULD ENCOURAGE, WHAT DO YOU THINK? LET'S PUT YOU ON THE SPOT. I THINK I WENT TO ONE MEETING WHEN WE HAD A SMALLER

[01:55:04]

JENNIFER, CAN I PUT YOU ON THE SPOT? DO YOU HAVE A POINT OF VIEW TABLE VERSUS THIS? I'M ALWAYS A. TABLE PERSON. I LIKE THIS FOR CHELSEA WAS SAYING FOR A FORMAL MEETING WHERE WE KIND OF ALL WILL BE IN A VOTING POSITION. BUT I LIKE THE SITTING AROUND THE TABLE. I LIKE A SQUARE BOARD. JEFF. I GO ANYWAY, WHATEVER WORKS. I THINK. WHAT IS EASIER FOR YOU? I MEAN, I THINK WE'RE FLEXIBLE OR SUSTAINABILITY. WE CAN WE DON'T CARE. YEAH, THAT'S HOW I FEEL.

AS LONG AS THERE'S A GOAL, RIGHT? ALL RIGHT. I'M GONNA DEFINITELY. MAYBE. YEAH, DEFINITELY. MAYBE WE JUST KEEP IT THE SAME, OKAY. RIGHT. YEAH. I THINK WE CAN DISCUSS MORE, BUT I DON'T THINK ANYBODY WANTS TO GO IN THERE. IT'S EITHER HERE OR WE SET UP TABLES OUT HERE I AGREE, YEAH I AGREE. OKAY. IT'S CLAUSTROPHOBIC IN THERE. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. SOUNDS GOOD. THANK YOU. BUT WHAT I'M HEARING IS THAT WE NEED TO EVALUATE SOMETHING THAT WILL GO ON THE TABLE TO CAPTURE DISCUSSION. SO WE DO HAVE WE DO HAVE THINGS THAT CAN GO ON THE TABLE. YEAH. IT'S NOT GREAT. IT'S NOT LIKE THESE THINGS THEY SIT IN THERE. THEY'RE IN THAT BOX. IT'S JUST LIKE THE LITTLE IT'S LIKE A POD THING. YEAH. THERE'S LIKE 2 OR 3. MAYBE WE NEED MORE. MAYBE WE JUST DON'T HAVE ENOUGH. I THINK THAT MIGHT BE THE. THE THING WITH THOSE PODS IS THE BUDGET MEETING TOMORROW. IN HERE. SET UP THAT WAY. IT IS IN HERE. I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY'RE SETTING IT UP. OKAY. YOU CAN TAKE A PICTURE. AND I MEAN, THE I DON'T THINK.

DO WE GET ANY DATA AS TO HOW MANY PEOPLE LOG IN AND WATCH THESE JUST BEFORE WE GET TOO CONCERNED ABOUT AUDIO, I TALK TO THE ONE PERSON I THINK I TALKED TO THEM. I THINK WE CAN ONLY TRACK THE PEOPLE THAT ARE WATCHING IT AFTER THE FACT. FOR SOME REASON, I DON'T THINK WE CAN TRACK WHO'S WATCHING IT. WHY? YOU KNOW, THEY'RE ALL TUNING IN LIVE FOR THIS, RIGHT? IF THEY'RE NOT, THEY SHOULD BE CTV. SOMEWHERE. SOMEONE'S GOING. OKAY, SO I THINK TBD ON THAT.

HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE DISCUSSION. FIGURE IT OUT IN JANUARY. JANUARY. I THINK WE'LL START HERE. AND THEN WE CAN JUST CASE BY CASE, LIKE I THINK LIKE WE'VE BEEN DOING WHEN WE HAVE SOMETHING SPECIAL, THEN TABLE AND WHATNOT UP HERE. ALL RIGHT. SO I CAN SPIN AROUND.

THANK YOU FOR LEADING THAT DISCUSSION. ALL RIGHT. THAT CONCLUDES OTHER BUSINESS. DO ANY BOARD MEMBERS HAVE ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR ANYTHING ELSE THEY'D LIKE TO DISCUSS? ANYTHING FOR JANUARY AGENDA THAT ISN'T ALREADY OPEN? GREAT. SEEING NOTHING, I MOVED TO ADJOURN THE MEETING AT 830. DO I HAVE A SECOND? I SECOND THAT, DON'T FORGET. PICTURE TIME.

PICTURE TIME. OH, YEAH. OH. SO,

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.