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AND AND CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER. AND WE'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND GET A ROLL CALL OF THOSE WHO ARE IN ATTENDANCE. MR. SMITHERS HERE, MR. BRUBAKER HERE. MR. SELLERS, MR. BILLMAN HERE, MISS BONEY, MR. PAUL HERE, MR. CHAPEL HERE, HERE, MR. HARPER HERE, MR. HERSKOWITZ
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HERE. SEVEN VOTING MEMBERS PRESENT. WE HAVE A QUORUM. OKAY. BEFORE WE DO THE MINUTES FROM THE LAST MEETING, WE HAVE A FEW ITEMS THAT WE NEED TO TIDY UP ON THE CURRENT AGENDA. FIRST, THE AGENDA REFERS TO THE LAST MEETING AS BEING APRIL 17TH. BUT I WAS RELIEVED TO SEE THAT.BUT IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING. WE HAD A MEETING IN OCTOBER, AND ALSO, MR. PAUL WANTED TO GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO INTERJECT ANOTHER ANOTHER ISSUE RELATED TO THE AGENDA. DID YOU WANT TO.
YEAH. ADDRESS THE MINUTES ISSUE FIRST, THE MINUTES ISSUE OR THE SPECIAL MEETING. WELL THAT'S THE THAT'S THE PART I'M GOING TO BRING UP IN A MOMENT. BUT MAYBE WE SHOULD JUST ADDRESS THESE ONE AT A TIME. OKAY. SURE. WAS THAT JUST A TYPO APRIL. YEAH. THAT THAT CAN BE AMENDED.
YES. SURE. OKAY. SO IT'S THE OCTOBER 16TH MINUTES THAT WE'RE GOING TO REVIEW IN A MONTH OR TWO. OKAY. THE OTHER ISSUE THAT I DID WANT TO BRING TO THE ATTENTION, AND AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS THE RIGHT PLACE TO DO IT UNDER ORGANIZATION. PERHAPS. OKAY. IS THIS IS CONVENED AS A SPECIAL MEETING. CORRECT. THAT'S HOW WE UNDERSTOOD IT. AND THAT SET OFF A RED FLAG FOR ME BECAUSE I'M FAMILIAR WITH THE YELLOW BOOK, OPEN MEETINGS ACT, ETC. AND ACTUALLY JUST ROBERT'S RULES THAT STATE THAT YOU CANNOT TAKE UP ANY BUSINESS IN A SPECIAL MEETING OTHER THAN THE BUSINESS FOR WHICH THE MEETING WAS CALLED, AND THE MEETING WAS CALLED WITH THE INFORMATION THAT WE WERE TO TAKE UP, SPECIFICALLY REZONING FOR NEW ALBANY. CORRECT. AND THERE WAS NEVER AN AMENDMENT OF THAT ALONG THE WAY UNTIL THE NEW AGENDA CAME OUT. BUT AND IT CONTINUES TO BE CALLED A SPECIAL MEETING. IT WAS NEVER BEEN IT'S NEVER BEEN RE-ANNOUNCED AS A RESCHEDULED REGULAR MEETING. SO THERE'S IN MY MIND, ANYWAY, A VERY SIGNIFICANT QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER WE CAN ACTUALLY PROCEED WITH CASES THAT ARE MARKED UNDER OLD BUSINESS, WHICH IS A COLUMBUS CASE, AND NUMBER ONE UNDER NEW BUSINESS, WHICH IS ALSO COLUMBUS CASE, BECAUSE THOSE WERE NOT ON THE ORIGINAL NOTICE TO CONVENE. AND I IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'VE GIVEN THIS SOME THOUGHT. SO LET ME LET YOU JUMP IN. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU, MR. PAUL. THOSE ARE SOME VERY VALID CONCERNS. THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE DID DISCUSS OVER AT THE CITY OF COLUMBUS. AND THE CONCLUSION WE CAME TO IS THE THE POLICY, THE PROCEDURES ARE ARE JURISDICTIONAL. DEPENDING ON THE JURISDICTION. WE WE DO ALL FOLLOW A COMMON CODE OF ETHICS, THE POLICY FOR PROCEDURAL DUE PROCESS IS WE CAN HEAR THE APPLICATION DURING THE SPECIAL. THE SPECIAL MEETING AS IT'S CALLED, AS LONG AS IT'S PROPERLY ADVERTISED. AND WE WERE ABLE TO GET THE INFORMATION POSTED TO THE CITY OF COLUMBUS WEBSITE AS WELL AS CITY BULLETIN. AS FAR AS MY UNDERSTANDING, WE CAN HEAR THE COLUMBUS CASES TODAY AS IT'S BEEN PROPERLY ADVERTISED.
OUTSIDE OF THAT, THEY WOULD THEY WOULD BE HEARD AT THE REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING DATES. OKAY. AND HOW WAS IT ADVERTISED IN THE CITY OF COLUMBUS? SO WE HAVE A CITY BULLETIN AS WELL AS A WEBSITE. I REVIEWED ALL OF THE CITY BULLETINS UP TO THE 29TH OF NOVEMBER, AND SAW NO MENTION OF ANY MEETING HERE TONIGHT. ALL THAT I SEE IS A REPRODUCTION OF THE SCHEDULE, WHICH HAS APPEARED IN EVERY CITY BULLETIN FOR SOME TIME. THE REGULAR SCHEDULE OF MEETINGS OF THE ACCORD PANEL, AND SO I'M NOT SURE HOW THAT CONSTITUTES ADVERTISEMENT OF THIS MEETING. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. SO THE CITY BULLETIN IS UPDATED YEARLY ONCE A YEAR. AND BECAUSE IT'S ISSUED EVERY YEAR. YEAH. BUT AS FOR AS FAR AS THE REGULARLY SCHEDULED RFP CALENDAR, IT'S SUBMITTED ONCE A YEAR, WHICH GOES ON TO THE CITY BULLETIN THAT'S UPDATED CONSTANTLY. AND AS FAR AS THE AS FAR AS THIS MONTH'S MEETING, BECAUSE IT WAS CALLED SO SOON, WE HAD TO DO A LAST MINUTE UPDATE TO OUR CALENDAR, OUR REGULAR MEETING SCHEDULE THAT WE HAVE IN OUR CITY. OKAY, ONCE AGAIN, I'VE SEEN NO ADVERTISEMENT IN THE CITY BULLETIN OR ON LEGO STAR THAT THIS MEETING WAS GOING TO OCCUR TONIGHT TO TAKE UP ANY BUSINESS.
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IT'S NOT MENTIONED. AND THAT BEING THE CASE, THIS WAS NOT PROPERLY ADVERTISED IN THE CITY OF COLUMBUS. I WOULD THINK BECAUSE THE MEETING WAS CALLED SO RECENTLY, WE WEREN'T ABLE TO GET IT ONTO THE CITY BULLETIN, THE LAST ROUND OF UPDATES. BUT WE DID SUBMIT THE INFORMATION.I'M GOING TO ASK YOU AGAIN THEN HOW WAS THIS MEETING ADVERTISED? THE RFP, THE RFP CALENDAR, THE MONTHLY MEETING SCHEDULE WAS AMENDED AND SUBMITTED. IN OUR INTERNAL GUYS. AND WE AND WE SEND IT OVER AT BOLTON IS, YOU KNOW, IT'S UPDATED CONSTANTLY AND WE SEND THE INFORMATION OVER TO BE UPDATED. LET ME JUST SAY THEN I'LL SPEAK FOR MYSELF. ABSOLUTELY. AND I KNOW THAT I'M PERMANENTLY OFF OF DAVID HODGES CHRISTMAS LIST. AND LET ME ALSO JUST SAY I IS NOT THE CLIENT'S, HIS CLIENT OR HIS FAULT THAT WE SIT HERE TONIGHT. PERSONALLY, I'M UNCLEAR WHY WE COULD NOT MEET ON NOVEMBER 20TH, WHICH WAS A REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING. THEY'VE BEEN PROMISED SLOT NUMBER ONE AT THAT MEETING. I GATHER THAT THEY HAVE BEEN MOVED TO THIS MEETING OUT OF CONSIDERATION OF THAT. OKAY, SO I FEEL BADLY BRINGING THIS UP. ABSOLUTELY. BUT I BELIEVE THAT IF I WAS TO SIT ON THIS BODY AND CONSIDER ANYTHING OTHER THAN A REZONING FOR NEW ALBANY, I WOULD BE BREAKING STATE LAW. SO I INTEND TO RECUSE MYSELF FROM ANYTHING OTHER THAN THAT CASE. IF IT ADDRESSES THE CONCERNS. IS IT POSSIBLE BECAUSE THE APPLICATIONS ARE CONCEPTUAL? IS IT POSSIBLE THAT THE PANEL CAN REVIEW THE APPLICATIONS FOR FEEDBACK BUT NOT PROVIDE A VOTE? NOT ACCORDING TO STATE LAW? NO, AS I READ IT AND AS YOU CAN READ IT AS WELL. AND I HAVE SOME PRINTOUTS HERE IF YOU'D LIKE TO REVIEW THEM. BUT I ACCORDING TO STATE LAW. NO, THAT'S NOT HOW I READ IT. THIS PANEL CANNOT BE EMBODIED AS I READ IT TO TAKE UP ANYTHING OTHER THAN THE CASE FOR WHICH WE WERE CONVENED. AT A SPECIAL MEETING. SO I WOULD LIKE TO BRING UP HOW WOULD THE PANEL LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD? CAN I SAY SOMETHING REAL QUICK? ABSOLUTELY. IN ADDITION TO WHAT MR. PAUL IS SAYING, WHEN THEY FINALLY DID DECIDE TO CANCEL THE MEETING, THEY PUT IT DOWN AS NOVEMBER 21ST AND INSTEAD OF THE 20TH, AT LEAST THAT'S THE WAY MY EMAIL CAME ACROSS. AND SO I THOUGHT, WELL, WHICH IS IT? YOU KNOW? AND SO I ACTUALLY WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT MY CALENDAR TO SEE IF I'D GOTTEN THE WRONG DATE AHEAD OF TIME, AND IT DIDN'T APPEAR THAT WAY. SO THERE WAS ALSO THAT EVEN WHEN THEY GOT AROUND TO CANCELING THE MEETING, THEY WEREN'T EVEN COMING UP WITH THE RIGHT DATE FOR IT. SO WE I'D LIKE TO MENTION WE ARE CURRENTLY IN THE PROCESS OF BUILDING AN AUTOMATED COMMUNICATION SYSTEMS WITH SPECIFICALLY JUST FOR THE CITY OF COLUMBUS, WITH ALL OF OUR BOARDS, COMMISSIONS AND PANELS THROUGH EXCELLA. FOR THIS PANEL SPECIFICALLY, WE ARE CURRENTLY FINALIZING WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF TECHNOLOGY AUTOMATED SYSTEM TO HELP IMPROVE COMMUNICATIONS LIKE THAT IN THE FUTURE. I BELIEVE THAT MAY HAVE JUST BEEN. AND I THOUGHT I WAS GOING TO KEEP MY MOUTH SHUT, BUT LET ME JUST SAY THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD CERTAINLY DISCUSS, MAYBE SHOULD DISCUSS. AS WE GET THAT INTO THE CLOSING OF OUR MEETING. YEAH, WE DO HAVE AN ATTORNEY AND HIS CLIENT HERE. I WOULD LIKE TO UNDERSTAND SOMETHING IS NOT WORKING RIGHT. I THINK MY FELLOW PANEL MEMBERS WILL AGREE. IT FEELS LIKE THERE'S SOMETHING NOT WORKING RIGHT. I THERE ARE MANY THINGS I DO NOT KNOW, AND I'M SURE I DON'T KNOW ALL THAT'S GOING ON, BUT I STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE DIDN'T MEET ON NOVEMBER 20TH. I'M STILL CONVINCED THAT WE ARE UNABLE TO TAKE UP THESE MATTERS TODAY. I'D LIKE TO TRY TO GET SOME UNDERSTANDING OF WHY THINGS ARE GOING AS BADLY AS THEY ARE. BUT AGAIN, MAYBE SOME OF THAT CAN WAIT TILL THE END OF THE MEETING. BUT WE DO NEED TO SORT OUT THE AGENDA BEFORE WE CAN EVEN GO FORWARD. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. WE CAN, WE CAN, WE CAN DISCUSS RIGHT NOW BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD, JUST JUST TO CLEAR THE AIR AND GET THINGS OUT OF THE WAY. SO NOVEMBER 20TH, THE ORIGINAL NOVEMBER RFP MEETING DATE WAS SCHEDULED. HOW WE DO IT IS WE HEAR HOW COLUMBUS DOES IT. WE HEAR A CONCEPTUAL APPLICATION. AND THEN THE FOLLOWING MONTH WE WILL FOLLOW UP WITH A VOTE FOR ACTION FOR THE APPLICATION ON OCTOBER 16TH, WE DID SEE THE 4901 CENTRAL COLLEGE ROAD APPLICATION CONCEPTUALLY, AND IN ORDER FOR IT TO COME BACK FOR ACTION, IT MUST BE RESUBMITTED WITH THE UPDATED MATERIALS THAT THE PANEL HAS REQUESTED. WHAT THREW OFF THE
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SCHEDULING FOR NOVEMBER WAS THAT THE CITY. WE DID NOT RECEIVE THOSE UPDATED MATERIALS, AND SO AFTER THE MEETING DEADLINE, WHICH FORCED US TO DO DO A LATE CANCELLATION OF THE MEETING. LIKE I MENTIONED EARLIER, WE ARE CURRENTLY BUILDING AN AUTOMATED SYSTEM IN COLLABORATION WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF TECHNOLOGY IN ORDER TO IMPROVE PANEL BOARDS AND COMMISSION COMMUNICATION. SO I UNDERSTAND THIS. THAT CASE, 4901 WAS NOT READY TO BE HEARD ON NOVEMBER 20TH. THAT I WAS NEVER INFORMED. I ACTUALLY EMAILED SAYING I HAVEN'T READY, I'LL SEND THEM WHEN I NEED IT, BUT I WAS NEVER INFORMED. ON OUR DEADLINES FOR APPLICATIONS AND MIDDLES ARE PUBLIC INFORMATION. WE HAVE THAT PUBLICLY AVAILABLE, SO IF YOU GO TO OUR WEBSITE, YOU'LL HAVE APPLICATION DEADLINE AND THEN IT'LL HAVE APPLICATION TIME.THIS PANEL ASKS FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. CORRECT ON PUT TOGETHER. I DID NOT KNOW THAT THAT WOULD BE UNDER THAT SAME APPLICATION DEADLINE. THE APPLICATION AGAIN, THIS IS JUST SUPPLEMENTAL INFORMATION WE HAVE NOW THAT SAME APPLICATION DEADLINE FOR THIS INFORMATION.
CORRECT. IT'S THE IT'S IT'S THE SAME APPLICATION BUT IT'S A NEW MEETING CYCLE. AND SO BECAUSE THE INFORMATION THAT YOU'LL BE SUBMITTING IS NEW IT'S NOT THE PANEL HAS NOT SEEN IT YET. THAT INFORMATION WOULD HAVE TO BE SUBMITTED PRIOR TO THE AGENDA BEING GENERATED AND SENT OUT TO THE PANEL, SO IT WAS NOT ABLE TO BE SENT OUT ON TIME. WE SENT WE SENT AN EMAIL COMMUNICATION.
WE WE ASKED, DO YOU EVEN HAVE THE UPDATED MATERIALS? WE SENT YOU A SUMMARY OF WHAT THE THE PANEL MEMBERS REQUESTED. AS FAR AS MATERIALS, MAY I POINT OUT ALSO THAT I UNDERSTAND I HEARD FROM MR. HODGE AND HIS ASSISTANT THAT THE DAY WE WERE TO MEET, THEY WERE NOT INFORMED THAT WE WERE NOT MEETING UNTIL I. MAYBE IT WAS JUST A WE CROSSED IN THE MAIL, BUT THEY HAD NOT RECEIVED ANY NOTIFICATION PRIOR TO 1120 THAT WE WEREN'T MEETING ON 1120. I'M JUST THERE'S THIS PART OF WHAT I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S GOING ON, I THINK. WOULD YOU AGREE? YES. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. YEAH. THAT'S A VALID CONCERN. LIKE I MENTIONED EARLIER, THERE'S A LOT OF MIX UP WITH WITH THE COMMUNICATION GOING ON, ESPECIALLY WITH THE EMAIL CONTACT LIST, AS WE ARE CURRENTLY BUILDING OUT OUR OUR COMMUNICATION SYSTEMS. OKAY. WE CAN'T JUST ABANDON ALL CONTROLS UNTIL THAT NEW SYSTEM IS READY. THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE FEEL WE ARE. THAT'S FAIR. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. WHAT IS THE WHAT IS THE TIME FRAME ON THIS NEW SYSTEM YOU KEEP MENTIONING. SO WE'RE WE'RE MEETING WITH DEPARTMENT OF TECHNOLOGY NEXT WEEK IN ORDER TO FINALIZE OUR LICENSE WORK. AND THEN WHEN IS THERE GOING TO BE A ROLLOUT? I MEAN, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO SEE THE WE PLAN ON DOING LIKE A PILOT ROLLOUT IN JANUARY, JANUARY THIS UPCOMING. SO BETWEEN THAT GETS UP AND LIVE OR AND I GUESS WHAT I'M HEARING THERE'S A LOT OF CONCERN ABOUT THERE HASN'T BEEN GOOD COMMUNICATIONS. THERE HASN'T BEEN THERE HASN'T BEEN ANY. WE'RE NOT GETTING NOTIFIED IF IF A MEETING IS CANCELED OR IT'S ON IN A TIMELY FASHION. AND THIS SEEMS TO BE SOMEWHAT RECENT, WOULD YOU SAY, I SAY IN THE LAST SIX MONTHS OR SO? YEAH, DEFINITELY THE LAST SIX MONTHS. OKAY. EVER INTENTIONALLY MISS.
RIGHT. OKAY. YEAH. SO THERE IS WE'RE NOT GETTING WE'RE NOT GETTING A NOTIFICATION. AND THAT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR LIKE WE'LL JUST SAY LAST 6 TO 8 MONTHS OR SO. SO WHAT. SO AND I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE BUILDING OUT THIS NEW SYSTEM AND SO FORTH. BUT AND I UNDERSTAND THE PANEL'S FRUSTRATION AND EVERYBODY'S FRUSTRATION IS SITTING HERE. I GUESS WHAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE IS MOVING FORWARD, THAT THERE ISN'T ANY KIND, THAT THIS DOESN'T, DOESN'T CONTINUE TO OCCUR. AND HOPEFULLY WITH THE NEW SYSTEM, MAYBE IT'LL BE BETTER. BUT WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IS ADDRESS WHAT'S GOING ON RIGHT NOW. SO IF I COULD BRING US BACK TO THE MATTER AT HAND, WHICH IS OUR AGENDA TONIGHT. YES. NOT NOT MEANING ANY DISRESPECT AT ALL.
WHAT YOU SAID IS IMPORTANT. YEAH. SO YOU EXPLAINED THAT YOU BELIEVE THAT THE POLICY IS THAT COULD BE HEARD AS A CONCEPTUAL MATTER TONIGHT, EVEN THOUGH IT MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE BEEN ADVERTISED PROPERLY, BUT ALSO NOTWITHSTANDING THE STATE LAW CONCERNING SPECIAL MEETINGS. I BROUGHT THIS QUESTION, THESE QUESTIONS HERE. ATTENTION ON THE 20TH OF NOVEMBER IN AN EMAIL. IT WAS COPIED TO THE REST OF THE PANEL. YES, THE BELIEF THAT YOU'VE EXPRESSED THAT WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO HEAR THESE CASES. THE COLUMBUS CASE IS HERE TONIGHT. IS THAT YOUR BELIEF OR IS THAT A LEGAL OPINION FROM CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE? I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND REVIEW FROM OUR DEPARTMENT. IT IS OUR UNDERSTANDING THAT WE CAN HEAR IT WITHOUT A VOTE AS A SPECIAL MEETING IF POSTED. IF THE PANEL WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD
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DIFFERENTLY, WE MAY. IT JUST MAY INVOLVE MOVING THE COLUMBUS APPLICATIONS TO OUR NEXT MEETING. AND THAT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING. DEFER TO MY COLLEAGUES AS TO HOW THEY'D LIKE TO PROCEED. I BELIEVE, PERSONALLY, AS I SAID, THAT THIS WOULD BE A VIOLATION OF STATE LAW AND I WOULD RECUSE. I'LL GO OUT IN THE LOBBY. I JUST WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT YOU'VE HAD SINCE THE 20TH TO BRING THIS TO SOMEONE IN THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE OR LEGAL STAFF WITHIN DEVELOPMENT. AND I'M NOT HEARING THAT ANYONE OTHER THAN DEVELOPMENT STAFF HAVE CONSIDERED THE QUESTION THAT I BROUGHT TO YOUR ATTENTION ON THE 20TH. WE WE'VE SENT I'VE SENT IT UP THE LADDER PERSONALLY, AND I'M JUST COMMUNICATING WHAT WHAT MY UNDERSTANDING IS, FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD FROM OUR MANAGEMENT. OKAY. AND I'LL STAND DOWN.GENTLEMEN. THANK YOU. SO BEFORE WE VOTE, SINCE I'M THE CHAIR, I'M GOING TO MAKE A DECISION.
SO. WITH RESPECT THAT THINGS ARE NOT AS THEY SHOULD BE AND THAT WE WILL GET THEM FIXED.
BECAUSE I EVEN HAD SOMEONE TELL ME THAT I WASN'T EVEN ON THE PANEL ANYMORE. JUST SO YOU KNOW.
IT SEEMS TO ME. DO WE HAVE PEOPLE HERE FOR THE COLUMBUS CASE? CORRECT. WE HAVE. MR. OKAY. SO TWO COLUMBUS CASES. IF WE HAVE A QUORUM, I IT SEEMS LIKE I DON'T WANT TO WASTE YOUR TIME COMING HERE FOR NOTHING. SO I GUESS WE CAN LISTEN, BUT WE ARE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO VOTE IN THEIR CONCEPTUAL. CORRECT. THAT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING. WE WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO VOTE, BUT WE CAN SEE THE APPLICATION IF SOMEONE HAS A DIFFERENT INTERPRETATION THAT THAT IS I'M NOT AN ATTORNEY AND I ALSO DON'T WANT TO GO TO JAIL EITHER. I'M A VOLUNTEER. I'M HERE TO HELP SERVE NOT, YOU KNOW. SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE SHOULD EVEN VOTE ON IT OR I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A VOTE, BUT I MEAN, I'D BE WILLING TO LISTEN SINCE WE'RE HERE, BUT IT'S AN AWKWARD SITUATION. HOW DO YOU. IS THERE A DECEMBER MEETING SCHEDULED AT THE REGULAR TIME FRAME? AND HAS THAT BEEN. WE DON'T RECEIVE ANY NEW APPLICATION DEPENDING ON HOW TODAY GOES, IF WE DON'T HAVE ANY NEW MATERIAL, ANYTHING LIKE WHAT OUR REGULAR SCHEDULE WOULD HAVE US MEETING ON DECEMBER 18TH. YES. AND I CAN SAY, OH WOW, SORRY. CITY OF NEW ALBANY, WE WILL HAVE THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY WILL HAVE A CASE FOR DECEMBER 18TH. SO WE WOULD MEET AGAIN. YES. SO THE MEETING WILL BE GOING ON? YES, FOR SURE. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? LIKE DO WE NEED A VOTE? I DON'T KNOW. CAN I MAKE A MOTION THAT THE TWO CITY APPLICATIONS THAT WERE NOT INCLUDED FOR THE MEETING, AT LEAST ACCORDING TO MR. PAUL'S OPINION THAT THOSE RESCHEDULED FOR THE DECEMBER MEETING, SINCE THEY ALREADY KNOW THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE A DECEMBER MEETING AND COVER THEM AT THAT TIME. AND THAT WAY WE'RE NOT IN ANY VIOLATION OF ANY STATE LAW. WE GO AHEAD AND HEAR WHAT THE NEW ALBANY COMPANY WANTS TO DO WITH OR I SHOULDN'T SAY NEW ALBANY COMPANY, BUT THE NEW ALBANY BOARD, WHAT THEY HAVE, WHICH IS WHAT WE WERE INITIALLY SIGNED FOR, I THINK THAT WOULD BE MY PREFERENCE. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? IT SOUNDS LIKE. MR. ROGERS, DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING YOU'D LIKE TO. EXACTLY WHAT I WAS WONDERING. OKAY, JUST JUST FOR A BRIEF MINUTE. WE DON'T WANT TO BE IN A SITUATION WHERE MR. PAUL IS NOT PARTICIPATING. AND HE SAID HE WAS CONFUSED. WE'D LIKE TO HAVE. ONE FOR THE CASE. WE'RE CERTAINLY COMFORTABLE COMING. REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING IN DECEMBER, WHICH I KNOW THERE WAS ONE. SO I'M HAPPY TO HEAR THAT. I WOULD ASK MR. ROCKMORE, I'M GOING TO SEND YES, SIR. REACH OUT TO THE COUNCIL STAFF. WE HAVE THIS. WE HAVE THIS CASE. AND THEN TO COME BEFORE THE DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION. SO WE'D LIKE TO MAKE THE 650,000 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT HAPPEN WHEN RESCHEDULED TO THE DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION. SO THAT. AS OPPOSED TO SOMEBODY. I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY, BUT I'LL REACH OUT. AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT. OKAY.
ABSOLUTELY. YEAH. AND, MR. HODGE, ARE YOU REPRESENTING BOTH CASES HERE TONIGHT? NO. SO THIS GENTLEMAN IS HERE TO WOULD YOU LIKE TO. BUDDY? THANK YOU. SORRY FOR YOUR TROUBLE. THEN.
AS IT STANDS, WE SHOULD FOR SURE MEET FOR DECEMBER. THE MEETING SHOULD BE CALLED.
SHOULD BE NO CANCELLATION. OKAY. WE HAVE GUARANTEED APPLICATIONS. APPLICATION TO. THANK YOU FOR
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YOUR TIME. TAKE OVER. SO, MR. CHAIR. CHAIR. SMITHERS, WE NEED A SECOND FOR THE MOTION AND A VOTE, PLEASE. WHAT IS THE MOTION AGAIN? IT'S TO. I'LL MOVE THAT THE TWO COLUMBUS.THINGS ON THE DOCKET ARE STRICKEN FROM THE STRICKEN FROM TODAY'S KNOWING THAT IT'LL BE PUT ON THE LATER IN IN DECEMBER. I WILL SECOND THAT MOTION. OKAY. READ THE GO AHEAD. READ THE ROLL. JUST ONE MOMENT. MR. CHAPPELL. YES, MR. PAUL? YES, MR. HARPER? YES. MR. HERSKOWITZ.
YES, MR. SMITHERS. YES, MR. BRUBAKER. YES, MR. BILLMAN. YES, YES, THE MOTION PASSES AND THE TWO COLUMBUS ITEMS ARE STRICKEN FROM TODAY'S AGENDA AND WILL BE SCHEDULED IN DECEMBER. VERY SORRY FOR YOUR INCONVENIENCE. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN. SEE YOU LATER THIS MONTH. ALRIGHT. I'LL TAKE. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. SINCE THIS IS A NEW ALBANY APPLICATION,
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I'LL BE TAKING OVER AS CHAIR. SO GIVEN THAT WE STILL HAVE TO HAVE APPROVAL OF MINUTES.ANYBODY HAVE ANY DISCUSSION CONCERNING THE MINUTES FROM THE LAST MEETING? THAT WAS OCTOBER? ANY ANY COMMENTS, ANY ADDITIONS? CHANGES? OKAY. GREAT. SO NONE THEN. CHRISTINA DO YOU WANT TO.
WE NEED A MOTION AND A SECOND. OH THAT'S TRUE. SORRY. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE MINUTES OF THE LAST MEETING. MR. CHAPPELL. OKAY. SECOND. MR. CHAPPELL. YES, MR. BOWMAN? YES, MR. PAUL. YES, MR. SMITHERS, ABSTAIN. MR. BRUBAKER. ABSTAIN. MR. HERSKOWITZ. YES, MR. HARPER.
YES. THE MOTION PASSES. THE AYES HAVE IT WITH FIVE VOTES TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS
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SUBMITTED. GREAT. THANK YOU. OKAY. ALL RIGHT, SO NOW THAT WE CAN GO ON TO LOOKS LIKE SINCE THAT WAS THE OLD ONE OF THE COLUMBUS APPLICATIONS, OLD BUSINESS. ONE OF THE APPLICATIONS COLUMBUS'S NEW BUSINESS, THE OTHER THAT IS THE NEW ALBANY WE'RE GOING TO BE DISCUSSING. SO WHAT I'M GOING TO DO IS WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT THE. DASH 942025.THAT'S US 62 BUSINESS ZONING DISTRICT. AND SO WE'RE GOING TO DO A REVIEW AND ACTION REGARDING THE NEW ALBANY REZONING APPLICATION TO REZONE 101 ACRES IN THIS AREA. AND BEFORE WE GET STARTED, IF WHOEVER'S GOING TO BE SPEAKING FOR THE APPLICANT NEED TO HAVE YOU RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? THANK YOU. THANKS, AARON. ALRIGHT, SO WE'LL GET RIGHT INTO IT. WHO WANTS TO PRESENT? YEP. OKAY, SO AS I MENTIONED, THIS IS A REQUEST FOR REVIEW AND RECOMMENDATION OF THE NEW ALBANY PLAN TO THE NEW ALBANY PLANNING COMMISSION TO REZONE 101 ACRES TO LIMITED GENERAL EMPLOYMENT FROM AGRICULTURE FOR AN AREA TO BE KNOWN AS THE US 62 BUSINESS ZONING DISTRICT. AND THE PROPOSED ZONING IS A LIMITATION TEXT AND LIMITATION TEXT CAN ONLY ESTABLISH MORE RESTRICTIVE REQUIREMENTS THAN ZONING CODE ITSELF. IT WILL PERMIT OFFICE DATA CENTERS, MANUFACTURING AND PRODUCTION, WAREHOUSE AND DISTRIBUTION, RESEARCH AND PRODUCTION USES, AND THE SITE SITS WITHIN THE ACCORDS PARK ZONING DISTRICT.
BUT DUE TO THE REQUESTED ZONING CHANGE, STAFF EVALUATED UNDER THE OFFICE RECORD STANDARDS AND THIS DOES MEET THE ACCORD OFFICE DISTRICT RECOMMENDATIONS OF OFFICE USE AND OTHER SIGNIFICANT EMPLOYMENT AND REVENUE PRODUCING USES. SO THE PROPORTION OF LAND IS CURRENTLY UNDERGOING ANNEXATION INTO THE CITY, AND THERE ARE MULTIPLE SIMILARLY ZONED COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES IMMEDIATELY SURROUNDING THE SITE. ON. THE CITY HAS COLLABORATED WITH APPLICANT TO ENSURE THAT THE ZONING STANDARDS ARE HARMONIOUS WITH THE NEARBY DISTRICT. TO SUPPORT A CONSISTENT DEVELOPMENT PATTERN, REZONING TO LG SUPPORTS THE CONTINUED GROWTH OF NEW ALBANY INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, AND BECAUSE THE SITE IS ADJACENT TO EXISTING EXISTING COMMERCIALLY ZONED LAND, THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT IS APPROPRIATE. REZONING WILL ELIMINATE THE OPTION FOR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT CURRENTLY PERMITTED ON THE SITE, SO THIS WILL REDUCE FUTURE STUDENT ENROLLMENT PRESSURE ON THE NEW ALBANY PLAIN. LOCAL SCHOOLS. LOOKING AT MORE OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL SIDE OF THINGS,
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THE ACCORD DOES EMPHASIZE PROTECTING NATURAL RESOURCES SUCH AS CREEK, WOODED AREAS AND OPEN SPACE, AND THE APPLICANT IS ACTIVELY STUDYING THE PROPERTY AND THE TIME OF ZONING, COMPLIANCE OR BUILDING PERMIT APPLICATION THAT THEY WOULD PROVIDE AN EPA PERMIT. AND THE LIMITATION TEXT DOES REQUIRE BEST MANAGEMENT TREE PRESERVATION PRACTICES, AS THE CITY HAS IN OTHER ZONING DISTRICTS IN THE AREA. THERE IS A SORRY TOO FAST. THERE IS A MINIMUM OF 185 FOOT PAVEMENT AND BUILDING SETBACK ON THE CENTER LINE OFF OF 62, TO ALLOW FOR A LARGER SETBACK TO MAINTAIN THE ESTHETIC CHARACTER OF RURAL ROADS. AND THIS IS ALSO CONSISTENT WITH OTHER AREAS WITHIN NEW ALBANY, AND MATCHES THE STRATEGIC PLAN, AS WELL AS USING THOSE LANDSCAPE STANDARDS TO KIND OF BEEF UP THE SORRY RURAL GATEWAY. AND THEN THE ACCORD DOES RECOMMEND A 70% OPEN SPACE. WHILE THE REQUEST DOES SET A MINIMUM LOT COVERAGE OF 75, BUT THAT WOULD BE TO BE IN RELATION WITH THE OTHER LARGE AREAS IN NEW ALBANY.AND JUST A REMINDER FOR REZONING PUBLIC PROCESS. OBVIOUSLY WE'RE HERE AT ROCHEFORT AND THEN IT WILL GO TO PLANNING COMMISSION AND THEN IN FRONT OF CITY COUNCIL. BUT OVERALL, THOSE ZONING REZONING SUPPORTS THE CONTINUED SUCCESS OF THE NEW ALBANY INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, THE LAST UPDATED IN 2003, IDENTIFIES EXPRESSWAY ADJACENT LAND AS APPROPRIATE FOR LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, OFFICE AND COMMERCIAL USES IN THE CITY'S DEVELOPMENT OVER THE PAST TWO DECADES CLEARLY REFLECTS THAT INTENT. ZONING TO ENSURE CONSISTENCY WITH THE REST OF THE BUSINESS PARK EAST D DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS ALIGNED FULLY WITH THE ACCORD'S OFFICE LAND USE CATEGORY. OVERALL, THE PROPOSED BENEFIT COMMUNITY BENEFITS COMMUNITY WELFARE BY SUPPORTING JOB CREATION AND ECONOMIC GROWTH. AND JUST TO CLARIFY, WE DID HAVE A 90% COMPLIANT WITH THE EVALUATION CHECKLIST. AND I'M HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AS WELL AS THE APPLICANT. THANK YOU. AARON, WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADD YOUR COMMENTS? OH, PLUS OBVIOUSLY STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR REPRESENTATIVES. FROM. PARKWAY. SO GOOD TO SEE YOU ALL AGAIN AND APPRECIATE YOU ALL COMING OUT TO THIS SPECIAL MEETING HERE THAT THIS ONE PRIMARILY.
FOR THIS WORK QUITE A BIT IN RECENT TIMES. AND I'M ALWAYS, ESPECIALLY IN NEW ALBANY SECTIONS OF THE BOARD IS VERY PLEASED WHEN WE CAN WAIT FOR ANOTHER PROJECT THAT WE'RE TRYING TO KILL FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. AS WE TOUCHED UPON, IT HAS A DUAL EFFECT OF.
SCHOOLS ARE IMPORTANT TO THE COMMUNITY AND DUAL EFFECT OF ELIMINATING WHAT NEW ALBANY DID AUTOMATICALLY. ONE UNIT PER ACRE DENSITY. WE DO KNOW THAT. RESIDENTIAL AREAS IN EACH OF THE ONE ACRE, THERE'S SOME EXCEPTIONS, BUT WE'RE ELIMINATING ALL OF THAT. IN ADDITION TO SETTING THIS UP USING A FORMULA THAT'S BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL THROUGHOUT THE WORLD, THE BUSINESS PARK WAS TO HAVE ZONING IN PLACE SO THAT SIGNIFICANT PROJECTS ARE SORT OF IN THE MIX AND PRESENTED TO THE CITY, AND WE HAVE SO MANY SITES AVAILABLE. AND SO, YOU KNOW, THIS IS ONE OF THERE ARE A LOT OF BIG PIECES OF REAL ESTATE LEFT. AND ALL THESE SCHOOL DISTRICTS WHERE IT'S STILL, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE WERE, YOU KNOW, 25, 30 YEARS AGO WHEN WE ORIGINALLY APPROVED THINGS REALLY CHANGED DOWN HERE TO THE EAST IS NOW WE HAVE ALL SEEN ALL THE DEVELOPMENT GOING ON, YOU KNOW, THE COUNTY LINE AND UP AND DOWN ON THE SOUTH BUSINESS PARK. BUT YOU KNOW, DEVELOPMENT HERE ON THIS SLIDE. SO, YOU KNOW, WE BELIEVE THAT THIS THIS CORRIDOR IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO GET BUSIER AND BUSIER. IN FACT, WITHOUT STUDYING IMPROVEMENTS FOR THIS GOING FORWARD IN THE FUTURE, GIVEN THERE'S A PROPERTY IN DOWNTOWN OF 450 ACRES FOR SIMILAR DEVELOPMENT. SO WE CONTINUE TO SEE THIS WORK BEING VERY POPULAR. AND JOHNSTOWN COMMUNITIES. BUT HERE AGAIN, THIS IS THE FIRST STEP IS TRYING TO ENVISION THIS SITE TO BE COMPETITIVE IN THE REGION FOR SIGNIFICANT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS. JUST THE SAME RECIPES WE'VE USED ALL OVER THE PLACE AND CONTINUALLY SURPRISED THAT ZONING IN WITHIN 6 TO 9 MONTHS WANT TO HAVE A PROJECT. THAT'S REALITY. SO WE'VE HAD A GREAT SUCCESS STORY. AND THE STANDARDS IN THE TEXT AND THE USES AND SETBACKS AND THINGS ARE ALL PART OF WHAT WE USED THROUGHOUT TO TRY TO. SORT OF MIX REGULATIONS THAT HAVE
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PROTECTED THE COMMUNITY AND, AND NEIGHBORING PROPERTY OWNERS AND, AND ALSO FACILITATE DEVELOPMENT. SO IF YOU'VE GOT A GOOD SCRIPT HERE, CONTINUING TO WORK IN THE SAME WAY. SO HAVING.JUST A COUPLE SO PART OF THE LAND IS NEW ALBANY, SOME OF IT'S PLAIN TOWNSHIP BECAUSE YOU'RE ANNEXING IN WHATEVER'S. HERE. SO A BULK OF IT WAS PLAIN TOWNSHIP OR OR DOESN'T MATTER.
MUCH TO THE ANNEXATION. VERSUS I WAS UNDERSTANDING THAT THE 101 ACRES WAS BEING ANNEXED INTO THE CITY. THE. NUMBERS UP THERE THAT LOOK LIKE CITY NUMBERS ON THAT, THAT MIGHT BE RIGHT. OKAY. I'M SURE IT'LL BE OKAY. AND THEY'RE CURRENTLY RESIDENTS ON THE RIGHT SIDE OR THE EAST SIDE OF THIS PROPERTY ON 62. THERE'S A COUPLE OF THEM IN THERE. I THINK THERE ARE SOME RESIDENTS ON THE SOUTH, YOU KNOW, ON THE NORTH SIDE OF 62 THERE. THERE'S HOMES RIGHT THERE. YOU CAN SEE. I JUST I JUST DROVE UP THERE TODAY LOOKING AT THAT AREA. OKAY. AND THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD, SORRY WAS THINKING ABOUT. SO ORIGINALLY THIS WAS KIND OF SLOTTED AS A AS, AS METRO PARK OR ADJACENT OR, YOU KNOW, AS, AS PART OF THE METRO PARK RIGHT PLAN. AND OBVIOUSLY THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE THE CASE IF IT'S PARK ZONE DISTRICT, IF IF WE CHANGE THE ZONING, OBVIOUSLY IS, IS I'M TRYING TO GAUGE WHERE WHERE IS THE PART THE METRO PARK IS IT IS IT NORTH OR NORTH OF THIS? THEN IT WOULD BE SOUTH, WEST AND SOUTH SOUTH. OKAY.
BASICALLY WEST BASICALLY. BASICALLY. OVER OVER HERE TO NOVEMBER AND WALNUT. IT'S WALNUT. YEAH, YEAH. THERE WAS A KIND OF A NORTHERN CORRIDOR. THEY WERE TRYING TO YOU KNOW, THE ORIGINAL PLAN WAS KIND OF THE NORTHERN OF THE TOWNSHIP, BASICALLY THERE THERE'S AN AGREEMENT FROM THE 2006, 2006 THAT DETAILED WHICH AREAS ARE ABLE TO ANNEX AND. AS WELL AS IDENTIFIES. THERE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE STRICTLY PARK. SO JUST OUTSIDE THIS AREA CLOSE. YEAH.
THERE'S ONE OF THOSE. IS IS I REMEMBER BASICALLY WHAT THEY WERE SAYING FOR THE PARKLAND WAS ANYTHING NORTH OF WALNUT STREET TO THE COUNTY LINE, DELAWARE COUNTY LINE OVER TO THE LICKING COUNTY LINE. THAT WHOLE BLOCK HAD THE POTENTIAL OF GOING INTO THE ROCKY FORK METROPARKS, BUT IT WAS GOING TO BE BASICALLY, FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM, A VOLUNTEER TYPE SITUATION. THE PARKS WERE WILLING TO PAY YOU X NUMBER OF DOLLARS PER ACRE, BUT THAT YOU WOULD NOT BE REQUIRED. SO THEREFORE, EVEN THOUGH THIS WAS IN THAT ORIGINAL BLOCK NORTH OF WALNUT STREET TO THE COUNTY LINE, I DON'T SEE ANY WAY THAT WHERE IT IS NOW, BECAUSE IT ROCKY FORK DOESN'T EVEN COME PAST BILLHEIMER PARK AT THIS POINT. SO SO I DON'T SEE THAT AS THIS BEING ANY KIND OF A PROBLEM FOR THAT ASPECT OF IT, OF EVER BEING A PART. AND ALSO, SINCE I GOT THE MICROPHONE AT THE MOMENT, THE LITERATURE THAT I GOT ON THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY, THE UP AT THE VERY TOP, IT SAID THAT THE PROPERTY WAS PRIMARILY WEST OF 62. THAT'S CORRECT.
IT'S IT'S NOT. IT'S EAST OF 62. RIGHT. AND ALSO TO GET TO THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY WITH THE 101 ACRES, WHEN I CLICKED ON THE APPLICATION, IT WAS SOMETHING LIKE 5050 WARNER ROAD. I THOUGHT, I DIDN'T KNOW WE HAD ANYTHING GOING ON THERE. AND SO WHEN I CLICKED ON IT, THIS IS WHAT CAME UP. SO I, YOU KNOW, THIS IS SOME OF THE MISCOMMUNICATION AND STUFF. SO MY FIRST THOUGHT WAS, WELL, IF THEY CAN'T GET THE DATE OF THE LAST MEETING RIGHT, AND THEY CAN'T GET WHICH SIDE OF THE ROAD IT'S ON, AND THEY HAVE TO GET TO IT FROM A WARNER ROAD ADDRESS. IF THESE BASIC THINGS ARE INCORRECT, WHAT'S REALLY IN HERE? IS THAT ALL CORRECT? SO,
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YOU KNOW, THAT'S. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS WELL I DON'T I DON'T EITHER. I'M SITTING ON THIS SIDE OF THE MICROPHONE. SO YEAH. YEAH. SO. THIS THIS IS THE PROPERTY CERTAINLY I HOPE YOU GOT THIS TEXT. YEAH I AND I, I WENT THROUGH ALL THAT STUFF DESCRIPTIONS I THINK WERE ACCURATE. YEAH. JUST THE FIRST PARAGRAPH. YES AND I APOLOGIZE I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. THE REVIEW AND ACTION SECTION AND UNFORTUNATELY WEST WAS PUT INSTEAD OF EAST. BUT YES, THIS IS ALL 100% ACCURATE. IT WAS JUST A MISTAKE OF DIRECTION OKAY. TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE IT IS. LIKE THERE'S AARON. IF I COULD JUST ASK. I'M LOOKING AT OUR CHECKLIST AND I DO SEE SOME THINGS THAT ARE THE WHERE THE ANSWER IS NO THAT IT DOESN'T MEET. BUT AS I'M UNDERSTANDING IT, THAT'S REALLY A CONFLICT BETWEEN THE ROCKY FORK BLACKLICK STANDARDS AND THE NEW ALBANY STANDARDS. YOU'RE SAYING THAT EVEN THOSE ITEMS THAT ARE CHECKED, NO. MEET THE LG, THE LIMITED GENERAL EMPLOYMENT DISTRICT STANDARDS FOR NEW ALBANY. THEY JUST DON'T QUITE MEET THE STANDARDS THAT HAVE PREVIOUSLY BEEN ACCURATE. YEAH, RIGHT. THE I THINK THERE'S THREE THAT ARE MARKED. NO. ALL OF THEM. IT MEETS ON THE CITY STANDARDS. IT'S JUST NOT THE ACCORD STANDARDS. THAT'S WHY IT'S MARKED. NO. AND I THINK WE TRY TO PUT THAT IN THE COMMENTS. IF IT'S NOT TO JUST EXPLAIN THAT IT MATCHES WHAT WE HAVE IN THE CITY. IT'S JUST NOT NECESSARILY LINED UP WITH THE ACCORD. AND I DID GLEAN THAT FROM THE COMMENTS. THANK YOU. I WANT TO PUT IT ON THE RECORD. COULD. UPDATED IN 2223. COULD YOU WALK US THROUGH THOUGH WE DON'T HAVE AS CLEAR. I DON'T HAVE AS CLEAR AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE ITEMS ARE THAT WERE PARTIAL MEETS ON THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS. CAN YOU WALK US THROUGH THOSE OR ARE THOSE READILY ACCESSIBLE? MAYBE RATTLE THEM OFF AND I CAN ADDRESS THEM AS THEY. IF THAT'S NOT, I MIGHT ALSO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THEM. SORRY FOR THE FIRST ONE THAT I'M SEEING IS THE BUILDING SHALL NOT FRONT MAJOR ROADWAYS WITH PARKING LOCATED BEHIND THE BUILDING. OUR COMMENT ON THAT ONE WAS JUST THAT THE CITY'S DESIGN GUIDELINES AND REQUIREMENTS REQUIRE BUILDINGS TO HAVE ACTIVE AND OPERABLE DOORS ALONG PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAYS, AND CANNOT BACK ONTO STREETS, AND PARKING MAY BE LOCATED IN THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING. SO AGAIN, SOMETHING THAT IT MATCHES WITH THE CITY, BUT NOT NECESSARILY THE ACCORD FOR THAT ONE. THE SIDEWALKS THEY HAVE COMMITTED TO DOING, THE LEISURE TRAIL THAT YOU SEE THROUGHOUT THE REST OF NEW ALBANY. BUT I KNOW THAT SINCE WE DON'T HAVE A USER OR ANYTHING, IT'S KIND OF A SECURITY THING AT THIS POINT THAT THEY DON'T WANT TO PUT.THEY DON'T WANT TO COMMIT TO SOMETHING THAT THEY MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO DO ONCE THEY HAVE A USER FOR THE SITE. AS FAR AS, OKAY, OFTEN THESE TECH COMPANIES, I. CAN'T THINK IT COULD BE, FRANKLY, I THINK IT COULD BE SOMETHING ELSE THAT COULD BE. SOME SORT OF SECURITY COMING MUCH MORE REAL. AND WE DON'T HAVE OR HAVE ACTUAL USER. HERE IT IS. ARE WE MEETING OR JUST I JUST HEARD WE'RE MEETING NEW ALBANY STANDARDS BUT NOT WALKING FORWARD. HOW WILL WE MAINTAIN IN THE RURAL CORE. SO YOU KNOW, TYPICALLY I THINK THE STANDARD FOR SETBACKS IS 100% COMMITTED TO THAT. WE'VE MADE SOME LANDSCAPING COMMITMENTS HERE. I THINK THOSE THOSE WERE MODELED AFTER SOME OF THE THINGS YOU SEE ARE COMING IN 62 MORE OF THE SORT OF RETAIL THAT YOU SEE COMING IN THERE. BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE SIMILAR IN TERMS OF SPACING AND NUMBER OF TREES. AND RIGHT NOW THIS MIGHT BE A ROLE FOR OR, I DON'T KNOW, TEN YEARS FROM NOW. BUT WE'VE TRIED TO ADHERE TO THOSE, THOSE THINGS THAT FOUR YEARS. IS THERE A BLUE LINE STREAM COMING THROUGH THIS PARCEL? THERE IS. SO THAT'S THE WE HAVEN'T STUDIED ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE THINGS IN THE CITY'S REQUIREMENTS IS TO PROVIDE PERMITS OR EVIDENCE FROM THOSE STANDARDS. AND TO DO THAT ONCE WE HAVE MORE EASILY IDENTIFY THEM, AT THAT TIME, WE WOULD HAVE ACTUAL BUILDINGS THAT WE WE ARE ADHERING TO THE UNDERLYING STREAM SETBACKS AS
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WELL. EVEN BEYOND THAT, NEW ALBANY REQUIRES THAT A FLOODPLAIN STUDY BE PERFORMED, RIGHT? YES. WE ENGINEERING PERMIT. YEAH. AND THEN JUST. PROVIDE EVIDENCE THAT ONCE THE THE ON SITE, ONCE THE RESIDENTIAL PARCELS ARE SOLD, THAT THAT WELLS AND SEPTIC SYSTEMS HAVE BEEN ABANDONED ACCORDANCE WITH OUR REGULATIONS SOMETHING. EARLIER. SO NO PROBLEM. ENGINEERING WORKS. THANK YOU. SO. I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION. OKAY. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ON THE EAST SIDE NOW ON THE WEST SIDE THERE ARE SEVERAL INDIVIDUAL HOMES IN THERE RIGHT NOW. THAT DOESN'T MEAN THEY COULDN'T BE BOUGHT OUT AT ANY TIME OR WHATEVER, BUT IS THERE ANY THOUGHT PROCESS OF THOSE PEOPLE GOING RIGHT NOW? I WOULD ASSUME THEY'RE IN PLAIN TOWNSHIP. IS THERE ANY THOUGHT PROCESS OF THAT AREA ALSO ANNEXING TO NEW ALBANY? YEAH, ON THE WEST SIDE. AND IF SO, HOW FAR DOES THAT GO? BECAUSE AT ONE TIME I WAS TOLD THAT EVERYTHING WEST OF 605 WOULD GO TO COLUMBUS. EVERYTHING EAST OF 605 WOULD GO TO NEW ALBANY. BUT THEN A FEW YEARS AGO, IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE MAYOR OF NEW ALBANY DID A NEW AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF COLUMBUS THAT WHEN PETASCALE BLOCKED OFF THEIR ENTRANCE INTO LICKING COUNTY, THEY GOT TOGETHER WITH THE CITY OF COLUMBUS AND NEW ALBANY AND SAID, OKAY, WELL, WE'LL TAKE EVERYTHING NORTH OF WALNUT STREET FOR COLUMBUS, AND NEW ALBANY CAN HAVE EVERYTHING SOUTH OF WALNUT STREET. AND AND SO BUT I GUESS AND THIS GOES BACK TO THE LAST MEETING AND I DON'T THINK YOU WERE HERE, BUT MR. PAUL GAVE US A MAP OF WHAT THE NORTHLAND COMMUNITY COUNCIL, WHAT THEY WERE DOING, AND THEY SHOW A DEFINITE RED LINE HERE WHERE THIS IS ALL ROCKY FOR.BUT THIS IS ALSO ROCKY FORK AND COLUMBUS. SO COLUMBUS HAS STOPPED AT 605. IS THAT IS THAT STILL? I THINK THAT'S ACCURATE. SO I GUESS WHAT I'M TRYING TO FIND OUT, BECAUSE I LIVE IN THE AREA NORTH OF WALNUT STREET, EAST OF 605. YOU KNOW, WHAT I'M TRYING TO FIND OUT IS, IS THIS AREA STILL THE NORTHERN PART OF THE PLAIN TOWNSHIP ACTUALLY GOING TO BE GOING TO THE CITY OF COLUMBUS SOMEDAY, AS OPPOSED TO THIS PIECE RIGHT HERE? SO THAT THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO FIND OUT. WELL, YEAH, THOSE RIGHT THERE. IS THAT SO MY SAYING IS THAT AS WE SIT HERE TODAY, THE WATER AND SEWER AGREEMENTS BETWEEN. ALBANY. US ALL, WE NEED TO GO ON THIS SIDE.
AND SORT OF WORK OUT SOME POINT OVER HERE. IT DOESN'T ALLOW IT, BUT UP HERE I DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S THE CASE. BEACH ROAD AND THIS IS THE AREA WHERE IT STOPS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CITY IS THINKING IN TERMS OF THEY WERE DONE BEFORE AND. IN THOSE AGREEMENTS, I SUPPOSE. BUT MY UNDERSTANDING RIGHT NOW, IF YOU WERE ANNEXING IT, CANNOT BE CERTIFIED. NOT LIKELY TO BE LESS THAN THREE YEARS. BUT THERE ISN'T ANYTHING THERE. THERE ARE NO AGREEMENTS WITH THE CITY OF COLUMBUS FOR THAT AREA RIGHT THERE AS BEING DEALT AWAY AS COLUMBUS OR NEW ALBANY, BECAUSE IF SO, THE PART THAT YOU'RE TAKING FOR NEW ALBANY RIGHT NOW WOULD BE IN THAT SAME CORRIDOR. THE WAY I WOULD PUT IT IS, YOU KNOW, THE THE WATER AND SEWER AGREEMENT BETWEEN COLUMBUS AND THE SUBURBAN MUNICIPALITIES, TYPICALLY ASHTON, THEY WALK THROUGH, THEY EXCLUSIVELY SERVICE SERVICEABLE FOR NEW ALBANY OR COLUMBUS. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THIS DOES NOT ALLOW THIS WATER. RIGHT? THERE'S NO OBLIGATION FOR NEW ALBANY, OBVIOUSLY, TO ANNEX.
THERE'S NO RIGHT TO DO SO EITHER. THEY CAN ANNEX. BUT IF THEY WERE TO DO THAT, THEY WOULD NOT HAVE THE SERVICES FROM THE CITY BECAUSE IT'S NOT SUBJECT TO. SO I THINK IF ANYTHING IS GOING TO FOR THESE PROPERTIES RIGHT NOW, IT'S ALMOST THE ONLY OPTION. BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY ADJACENCY ANYWHERE NEAR THERE ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN. SO I THINK IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT TO DO. I THINK FROM A PURELY LEGAL STANDPOINT, COLUMBUS WOULD BE THE ONLY ONE RIGHT NOW. DO YOU KNOW, IS ROCKY FORK METRO PARK, CITY OF COLUMBUS? BECAUSE ORIGINALLY THEY SAID THAT THEY WEREN'T GOING TO ANNEX IT, BUT I DON'T. OKAY. YEAH, I THINK THAT WAS PART OF THAT. COLUMBUS AND WHAT WE WANT TO PROTECT OUR OWN GROWTH AND FIND THOSE
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THINGS. AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW I DON'T THINK ALBANY OVER IN THAT AREA, EVERYTHING'S PAST THE COUNTY LINE FOR THAT AGREEMENT, MAYBE BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF MUNICIPAL BOUNDARY TO BE VERY DIFFICULT DO. GET THROUGH THAT PART OF THAT AREA. BUT EVEN THEN YOU WON'T BE WANTING TO DO THE SAME SITUATION IN THEIR SERVICE. IN COLUMBUS WILL BE ABLE TO FIGURE OUT A WAY THROUGH. OKAY. THANK YOU. I HAVE NOTHING ELSE. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS. ALL RIGHT. ANY ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO ADD ANYTHING OKAY. SO DO WE HAVE A SOMEONE HAVE A MOTION ON THIS APPLICATION. DO WE HAVE A MOTION. ANYBODY WANT TO PUT ONE FORWARD I WILL MAKE A MOTION. AARON AND MR. HODGE ARE IN THE SAME FIRM SO I THINK I. I01 BUT NO ONE IN THE SAME DOOR. THAT'S RIGHT. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE REZONING OF THIS PARCEL, THIS 101 ACRE PARCEL FOR THE LG DISTRICT. YES.THANK YOU DAVE. AND WE DO HAVE A SECOND. I'LL SECOND. GREAT. ALL RIGHT. CHRISTINA, DO YOU WANT TO CALL? CERTAINLY, MR. PAUL. YES, MR. YES. MR. BILLMAN. YES. MR. SMITHERS, ABSTAIN. MR. BRUBAKER. YES. MR. HERSKOWITZ YES. MR. HARPER. YES. THE AYES HAVE IT. THE MOTION PASSES WITH SIX VOTES IN FAVOR OF APPROVAL. DID I GET THE SECOND ON THAT? RIGHT. WAS THAT MR. CHAPPELL, MR. HARPER, I'M SORRY, I APOLOGIZE. I'LL CORRECT THE RECORD. YOU CALLED ME SECOND, BUT THE SECOND. YES. YEAH, YEAH. GREAT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. THANKS FOR. THANKS, SIR. OKAY.
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I THINK WHAT WE WE CAN MOVE ON TO OTHER BUSINESS. WE HAVE A COUPLE THINGS THAT WE WANT TO DISCUSS AND OTHER BUSINESS. AARON, IS THERE A CHANCE WE COULD TALK? WHEN? SOMETIME. NOT RELATED TO THIS CASE, BUT JUST SOMETHING ELSE? ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. THANKS. SORRY. IT'S OKAY.ALL RIGHT. WE'RE ON TO OTHER BUSINESS. I KNOW THERE WERE TWO ITEMS. WELL, AT LEAST ONE ITEM YOU WANTED TO DISCUSS. DAVE. THE OVERLAP OF. WELL, A COUPLE OF THINGS. I JUST, I GUESS IN GENERAL, I YOU BOTH YOU'VE EXPLAINED THAT THERE ARE SOME COMMUNICATION TOOLS THAT ARE COMING TO YOUR DEPARTMENT THAT MAY HELP WITH SOME OF THE ISSUES. I'M STILL ALSO A LITTLE CONCERNED, BUT MAYBE THE MAYBE THAT WILL OFFER SOME IMPROVEMENT THERE AS WELL, JUST IN TERMS OF LEARNING ABOUT THESE CASES, THE PANEL LEARNING ABOUT THESE CASES WHEN THEY'RE FILED AT THE CITY, AS OPPOSED TO A WEEK BEFORE WE HEAR THEM, OR EVEN LESS SOMETIMES AGAIN, BECAUSE AS WE HAD DISCUSSED IN A PREVIOUS MEETING, I HAVE SOME CONSTITUENTS, BUT I'LL CALL THEM THAT JUST FOR PLAIN TALK. I HAVE FOLKS WHO ARE INTERESTED IN WHAT GOES ON IN THIS AREA.
AS YOU BROUGHT UP THE MAP, THAT KIND OF OVERLAPS AND SO FORTH. SO IT'D BE VERY HELPFUL TO LEARN THESE. BUT THEN THERE ARE THESE TWO CASES WE HAD NOT REALLY BEEN I WAS NOT REALLY AWARE OF. SO I'M HOPING THAT THE NEW COMMUNICATION SYSTEM YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WILL HELP WITH THAT AS WELL. YES. WE HAVE A WE HAVE A PLAN TO COORDINATE WHEN NEW APPLICATIONS COME IN.
THEY USUALLY GO TO OUR BUILDING AND ZONING SERVICES DEPARTMENT, AND THAT'S FORWARDED OUT TO ALL OF OUR OTHER DEPARTMENTS. AND THEN WHEN WHEN IT COMES ACROSS PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT, WE RECEIVE THAT INFORMATION. AND THEN IT WILL GENERATE THE STAFF REPORT, AND THEN WE'LL SEND OUT THE THE ZONING INFORMATION, THE ZONING PACKET. I KNOW YOU MENTIONED WANTING INFORMATION ABOUT ADJACENT PROPERTIES WITHIN. WAS IT THE 125 FOOT BUFFER? ALL OF THAT INFORMATION IS ALSO INCLUDED FROM THE PACKAGE BUT PACKET. BUT WE GET THAT SUBMITTED TO US FROM BSES AND FROM SHERRY. SHERRY IS THE ONE WHO'S CURRENTLY MAILING THOSE OUT. I THINK FOR CASES THAT ARE CLEARLY WITHIN THE CITY, IN THE NORTHLAND AREA OF THE CITY, FOR THE NORTHLAND COMMUNITY COUNCIL DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE. SO I UNDERSTAND THE PROCEDURE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
YES. AND THAT WOULD BE MORE THAN ADEQUATE FOR MY OWN SELFISH INTEREST IN INFORMING MY NEIGHBORS. YEAH, BUT ARE WOULD YOU SAY THEN THAT THAT WOULD ALSO INCLUDE THE PANEL,
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THAT SOMEHOW THERE'D BE NOTIFICATION TO THE PANEL OF THOSE? YES. WE WE SEND THE THE MATERIALS PACKET. WE WILL INCLUDE THESE ZONING INFORMATION WITH ALL THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES, ALL OF THE LOCAL OWNERS, PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN THE RELEVANT CASE AREA.LET ME JUST SAY, WHILE I HAVE THE FLOOR, I APOLOGIZE FOR I'M SORRY, I'LL USE THE WORD SPANK.
I DIDN'T MEAN TO SPANK YOU IN AN OPEN MEETING HERE WITH SOME APPLICANTS PRESENT ABOUT THE OTHER ISSUES WE WERE TALKING ABOUT. IT JUST. I THOUGHT WE HAD TO RESOLVE IT BEFORE WE ACTUALLY MOVED TO HEARING CASES, AND THERE WAS NO WAY TO TAKE IT OFFLINE, SO. WHAT ELSE WERE YOU THINKING THAT I WAS GOING TO MENTION? I KNOW THE OVERLAP BETWEEN. DID YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE OVERLAP BETWEEN ROCKY, FORD, BLACKWOOD AND NORTHLAND? WELL, AND TO A DEGREE, THAT'S WE'VE JUST BEEN TALKING ABOUT JUST RECEIVING SOME NOTIFICATION SO THAT WE DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE WAS MORE THAT YOU WANTED TO EXPAND ON IN THAT, YOU KNOW, I KNOW YOU SAID IN YOUR EMAIL THAT YOU WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU WANT TO BE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS. AND I SHOULD BE CLEAR, BY THE WAY, IT ISN'T JUST THE NCC, NORTHLAND COMMUNITY COUNCIL PEOPLE, IT'S THE PEOPLE LIVING IN THOSE AREAS THAT ARE POTENTIALLY BEING ANNEXED WHO WOULD THEN HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN ABOUT CASES THAT ARE COMING UP.
THOSE ARE THE FOLKS I'M REFERRING TO AS CONSTITUENTS, NOT JUST THE MEMBER ORGANIZATIONS OF THE COUNCIL, BUT WE DID RECENTLY WITH THE CITY'S AGREEMENT, EXPAND OUR ROLE AS AN ADVISORY BODY, STRICTLY ADVISORY TO INFORM AND HOLD HEARINGS, TO TALK ABOUT THESE CASES BEFORE THEY MOVE TO THE CITY'S DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION OR OTHER AGENCIES, OTHER BODIES. BUT YES, I, I THINK I'M FEELING PRETTY COMFORTABLE THAT WE'RE WE'RE CLEAR ON THAT. I SHOULD BE VERY CLEAR, THOUGH, THAT THAT MAP SHOULD NOT BE READ TO SAY THAT THE CITY OF COLUMBUS IS ADOPTING, YOU KNOW, IS ANNEXING THAT ENTIRE AREA. THERE WAS A GREAT OUTCRY AT AN EARLIER VERSION OF THAT MAP FROM FOLKS IN BLENDON TOWNSHIP WHO LOOKED AT IT AND SAID, THE CITY IS ANNEXING ALL THE TOWNSHIP BECAUSE THEY WERE LOOKING AT OUR SERVICE AREA, NOT THE CITY, AND WE WERE SIMPLY SAYING ANYTHING WITHIN THIS AREA THAT'S ANNEXED, WE WOULD LIKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE IN AS AN ADVISORY BODY. WE'RE NOT TAKING ANYTHING AWAY FROM LONDON TOWNSHIP, AND THEREFORE NOTHING SHOULD BE READ INTO THAT. TO SAY THAT ANY PROPERTY NOT IN THE CITY OF COLUMBUS WOULD EVER COME TO NCC. PERFECT.
SO GREAT. YEAH, I HAVE JUST A MORE PRACTICAL ITEM. JUST JUST PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE NOTIFIED. I'M NOTIFIED IF WE'RE HAVING A MEETING OR NOT HAVING A MEETING.
I'VE JUST SAY THAT ON THURSDAYS FOR ME, I COULD ACTUALLY BE AT THREE DIFFERENT PLACES ON ANY GIVEN THURSDAY. THIS IS MY PRIORITY. BUT, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A MEETING, I CAN RELEASE IT. THAT'S HELPFUL TO ME. BUT IF WE ARE, YOU KNOW, AS SOON AS WE CAN POSSIBLY GET, IT'S REALLY, REALLY HARD TO TURN THE SHIP AT THE LAST MINUTE. SO THIS WORKED OUT. BUT GOING FORWARD, WELL ALONG THOSE LINES, CAN WE SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, IF WE ARE GOING TO HAVE CAN WE HAVE A TIME FRAME AS FAR AS IF IF WE HAVE A SCHEDULED MEETING AND I FORGET THE DATE IS THE 18TH, 18TH, 18TH, THAT WE HAVE NOTIFICATION THAT WE ARE WE ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE A MEETING LIKE A WEEK BEFORE IN THE. LEAST AT LEAST. OKAY. GO AHEAD. WELL, YEAH, I WAS GOING TO MENTION BECAUSE THOSE APPLICATIONS ARE ALREADY CONFIRMED AND WE HAVE THE MATERIALS AND NO NEW SUBMISSIONS ARE REQUIRED BY A DEADLINE. WE CAN WE CAN ACTUALLY HAVE THAT INFORMATION BY NEXT WEEK. JUST BECAUSE NO NEW INFORMATION IS BEING SUBMITTED. WE CAN SEND OUT THE WELL, WE HAVE A NEW ALBANY APPLICATION AND THE NEW ALBANY.
DO YOU HAVE THE MATERIALS FOR THAT AS WELL, OR IS THIS THE. WELL, I'M LOOKING ON OUR BOARD AND COMMISSION CALENDAR, AND IT LOOKS LIKE THE RFP AGENDA IS GOING TO BE PUBLISHED ON THE FOURTH OF THIS MONTH. SO THAT'S HOW WE HAVE IT. NOW, I KNOW WE'RE NOT IN CONTROL OF ALL OF THAT, BUT YES, I CAN GET YOU THAT INFORMATION. BUT YEAH, I'M JUST MAKING SURE WE UNDERSTAND FROM A STANDPOINT WHEN WE NEED TO GET TO THE INFORMATION TO YOU AS WELL. OKAY. ABSOLUTELY.
YEAH. SO DECEMBER 18TH MEETING. IT SHOULD BE GOING ON FOR SURE. I DON'T SEE A REASON FOR CANCELLATION. AND I THINK WE'VE DISCUSSED THAT IN A LOT HERE TONIGHT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE MOVING FORWARD, LIKE THE JANUARY MEETING, FEBRUARY MEETINGS AND SO ON AND SO FORTH, THAT WE HAVE ADEQUATE NOTIFICATION, COMMUNICATION AND NOTIFICATION. YES. CORRECT.
THAT'S IT. OKAY. OKAY. GREAT. I GOT ONE THING FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE BOARD HERE. MAYBE WHEN
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YOU SET OUT THE NEXT SUBMITTAL PACKAGE FOR INFORMING EVERYONE ABOUT A MEETING, IF YOU COULD INCLUDE THE EXHIBITS OR IN THE SEWER SERVICES AGREEMENT THAT SHOW WHAT'S EXCLUSIVE TO ALBANY, WHAT'S EXCLUSIVE COLUMBUS, AND IS THERE A THIRD CATEGORY LIKE SHARED? BUT I KNOW THERE'S EXHIBITS WE CAN YEAH, WE CAN PROVIDE LIKE A MAP OR. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. IT'S RIGHT.AGREEMENT. YEAH. OKAY. GREAT. THANK YOU. MR. MR. SMITHERS, YOU BROUGHT UP A CONCERN, AT LEAST IN EMAIL, ABOUT THE RENEWAL OF YOUR PARTICIPATION IN THIS BODY AND CONCERNS ABOUT WHETHER YOU WERE OR WERE NOT RE-UPPED. YEAH. AND I'M I DON'T CALL ME OUT. NO, NO. I DON'T HAVE THAT KIND OF POWER ANYWAY. BUT I DO. I WAS READING THE OUR BYLAWS, AND IT DOES SAY THAT EVEN IF YOUR TERM HAD EXPIRED UNTIL YOU REPLACED YOUR CONTINUE TO BE A VOTING MEMBER UNTIL SOMEONE ELSE IS APPOINTED TO REPLACE YOU. BUT I DON'T EVEN RECALL WHERE I AM IN MY TERM. AND DOES EVERYONE RECALL WHERE THEY ARE IN THEIR TERM? I ACTUALLY LOOKED MINE UP OKAY.
OKAY, I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW FAR BACK YOU GO TO LOOK UP MINE. WELL, THE RENEWALS ARE EVERY THREE YEARS, EVERY THREE YEARS, AND THEN WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO HAVE MORE THAN FOUR CONSECUTIVE TERMS LIKE, I DON'T KNOW, 40. SO MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING WE EACH NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT. I DON'T KNOW, BUT IS MY UNDERSTANDING CORRECT? AGAIN, EVEN IF YOU'RE TECHNICALLY NOT SUPPOSED TO UNTIL YOU'RE REPLACED, YOU'RE STILL ENTITLED TO. YEAH, THAT'S THAT'S A VALID POINT, MR. PAUL. GOING THROUGH THE BYLAWS, IT IS ALSO MY UNDERSTANDING THAT EVEN IF A TERM EXPIRES, THE PANEL MEMBER CAN STILL SERVE UNTIL THEY ARE REPLACED OR RENEWED. SO I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S ANY ISSUES ALONG THOSE LINES. ANYBODY FROM NEW ALBANY KNOW ABOUT KYLE IS BECAUSE I THINK HE'S HE'S HASN'T BEEN FOR A WHILE. HE AND I THOUGHT HE HAD KIND OF LEFT.
I HEARD THAT HE WASN'T GOING TO BE ON IT ANYWAY. AND HE HASN'T BEEN. IS THERE A REPLACEMENT FOR HIM OR HE STILL OCCUPIES THE SEAT? OKAY. HE JUST HASN'T TODAY. BUT THERE IS NO REAL ATTENDANCE REQUIREMENT. THERE IS AN ATTENDANCE REQUIREMENT. THERE IS. YEAH. AND BUT HE'S STILL WITHIN THOSE. NO HE'S NOT. OKAY. WELL THEN I DON'T KNOW I YEAH I THINK IT'S NOT CLEAR WHETHER HE IS OR NOT. I MEAN IT'S FOUR MEETINGS IN A 12 MONTH PERIOD. YOU KNOW, MISSING FOUR MEETINGS UPON THE FOURTH. OKAY. IN THE PAST THEN THE THEN IT'S FORWARDED THE FACT OF THE ABSENCES ARE FORWARDED TO COUNCIL AND THE CITY, NEW ALBANY CITY COUNCIL. AND THEN THEY CAN DECIDE WHETHER ANY OF THOSE MEETINGS ARE MISSING THE MEETINGS OR EXCUSED. OKAY. I GUESS WHO NEEDS TO INITIATE THAT CONVERSATION IS WHAT I WOULD BE ASKING. IF YOU'RE THE CHAIR. WELL, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE FULL REPRESENTATION FROM THE ALBANY SIDE. SURE. AND THAT'S WHY I BRING IT UP. AND I AND I JUST THOUGHT I'D, I'D HAD A I MAYBE IT'S BEEN A WHILE, BUT I THOUGHT HE WASN'T GOING TO BE PARTICIPATING OR HE HAD MENTIONED THAT HE WASN'T GOING TO BE OR SOMETHING. I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE I'M SPEAKING OUT OF CONTEXT. OR TWO. THAT WAS HERE FOR A SHORT PERIOD. MR. GILMAN REPLACED HIM. OKAY. YEAH. IT MIGHT NOT BE A BAD IDEA GOING INTO THE NEW YEAR JUST TO HAVE IT ALL LAID OUT BE HELPFUL, YOU KNOW, FROM THE THE TERM, THE TERM TERMS. YOU KNOW, WHERE WE STAND. I DO REMEMBER GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS OF HAVING MINE RENEWED. BUT, YOU KNOW, I THOUGHT MAYBE MAYBE SOMEONE SAID, NO, WE DON'T DON'T WANT HIM ON THERE. SO YEAH. SO I'M HERE. I DIDN'T MISS FOUR MEETINGS. JUST ONE. WELL, WE ALL KNOW THAT THERE'S ONE COMING UP ON THE 18TH. YEAH, I'LL BE HERE SO THAT WE CAN PLAN ON. OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY OTHER ADDITIONAL COMMENTS OR CONCERNS OR ANYTHING THEY'D LIKE TO BRING UP AT THIS POINT IN TIME? THANK YOU FOR THE PANEL'S PATIENCE AS WE WORK THROUGH THE ISSUE EARLIER. THANKS. THANKS FOR BRINGING IT UP. I JUST WANTED TO REMIND EVERYONE WE DO HAVE A VOLUNTEER RECOGNITION EVENT NEXT TUESDAY, DECEMBER 9TH FROM 530 TO 730 AT BRICKHOUSE BLUE FOR ALL OF NEW ALBANY'S BOARD.
SO I JUST WANTED TO REMIND YOU OF THAT. THERE WILL BE DINNER AND A MIXER AND A GIVEAWAY, SO IF YOU'RE AVAILABLE, WE'D LOVE TO SEE YOU THERE. I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION, IF I MIGHT, I SAW ON THE NEW ALBANY PAGE THAT THEY WERE, I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T EVEN REMEMBER WHAT OFFICE
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IT WAS THAT THEY WERE REQUESTING, THAT THEY NEEDED SOMEBODY FOR A COMMITTEE OR WHATEVER, BUT IT SAID IT WAS FOR NEW ALBANY RESIDENTS ONLY. WELL, I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY YOU MIGHT NOT NECESSARILY WANT SOMEBODY FROM COLUMBUS, BUT I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY YOU WOULDN'T NECESSARILY WANT SOMEBODY FROM PLAIN TOWNSHIP, BECAUSE I THOUGHT PLAIN TOWNSHIP IN NEW ALBANY WERE BASICALLY. CONSIDERED. I MEAN, ALL OF PLAIN TOWNSHIP IS NEW ALBANY, CORRECT? I MEAN, NEW ALBANY IS ALL PLAIN TOWNSHIP TO. WELL, NOT SINCE THEY WENT INTO LICKING COUNTY, I GUESS, BUT YEAH, YEAH, TO SIT ON THE WHATEVER COMMITTEE IT WAS, I DON'T EVEN REMEMBER NOW WHAT IT WAS. YEAH. TO BE TO REPRESENT NEW ALBANY ON A NEW ALBANY BOARD OF COMMISSION, YOU NEED TO BE AN ELECTOR OF THE CITY. AND WE DETERMINE THAT BY THE TAXING DISTRICT THAT YOU LIVE IN. OKAY. AND SO IF YOU'RE WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS OF NEW ALBANY IN THE TWO, TWO, TWO TAXING DISTRICT, THEN YOU'RE ELIGIBLE TO SIT AND REPRESENT NEW ALBANY ON A BOARD OR COMMISSION. BUT YOU'RE CORRECT. THERE ARE MANY ADDRESSES. THE TWO TWO THERE ARE MANY ADDRESSES IN NEW THAT ARE CALLED NEW ALBANY THAT ARE ACTUALLY IN THE CITY OF COLUMBUS OR IN PLAIN TOWNSHIP. OKAY. BUT TWO, TWO ZERO THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO, YOU'RE TALKING 22222022 OKAY. EXCUSE ME. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. IT'S A FUNNY LITTLE THING. YEAH. FUNNY LITTLE THING. OKAY. THAT'S THAT'S ALL. I WAS JUST CURIOUS AS TO WHY THEY WERE EXCLUDING PEOPLE FROM PLAIN TOWNSHIP. BUT THAT'S THE REASON. OKAY. THANK YOU. GREAT. ANYBODY ELSE? ANYTHING? DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN THE MEETING? RALPH SMITHERS. SO MOVED. SECOND, J HERSKOWITZ SECOND.* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.