Dec 01, 2025 Planning Commission

[ I. Call to order]

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LIKE TO GO OVER TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING FOR MONDAY, DECEMBER THE 1ST, 2025. ROLL, PLEASE. MR. KIRBY PRESIDENT. MR. WALLACE PRESENT. MR. SHELL PRESENT. MR. LARSON. YES.

PRESENT. MISS BRIGGS HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER WILTROUT HERE. ALL VOTING MEMBERS ARE PRESENT.

WE HAVE A QUORUM. THANK YOU. TAKES US TO ACTION ON THE MINUTES FROM NOVEMBER 17TH. ANY

[III. Action on minutes: November 17, 2025]

YES, MR. WALLACE. YES, YES. MOTION PASSES WITH FOUR VOTES TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS SUBMITTED. ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS TO THE AGENDA? NONE FROM STAFF. OKAY.

WHAT? EVERYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION TONIGHT. PLEASE RISE. DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? THANK YOU. AND LET US ALL SILENCE OUR PHONES.

TAKES US TO ITEM FIVE HEARING OF VISITORS. FOR ITEMS THAT ARE NOT ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA. DO WE HAVE ANY SUCH VISITORS TONIGHT? SEEING NONE THAT TAKES US TO OUR CASES. OUR FIRST CASE IS

[VI. Cases]

THIS IS A REQUEST TO ALLOW A ZONING CHANGE TO THE RURAL RESIDENTIAL SUBDISTRICT OF THE URBAN CENTER. CODE TO INFILL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT AT 6600 NEW ALBANY ROAD. THIS WAS TABLED ON OCTOBER 20TH TO REEVALUATE AND REVISE SOME OF THE DETAILS, WHICH I'LL BE GOING OVER IN THIS PRESENTATION. SO AGAIN, THIS IS THE PROCESS FOR REZONINGS. THIS WAS APPROVED OR RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF CONDITIONS ON OCTOBER 13TH BY THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD, AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION WILL MAKE ITS RECOMMENDATION TO THE COUNCIL FOR ITS FINAL DECISION ON THIS APPLICATION. THIS IS LOCATED AT 6600 CONDUIT ROAD AND SURROUNDING USES INCLUDE OFFICE USES TO THE NORTH AND RURAL RESIDENTIAL USES TO THE VICINITY, AND THIS APPLICATION INCLUDES A PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN, WHICH IS EVALUATED IN CONJUNCTION WITH REZONING, AND A DETAILED EVALUATION WILL BE HAD AT THE TIME OF THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN, WHICH WILL REQUIRE REVIEW AND APPROVAL BY THE ARB NPC. SO AGAIN, A FEW CHANGES WERE MADE. THIS INCLUDES CHANGES TO THE ZONING TEXT AND TO THE PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN. BASED ON THE COMMENTS THAT THE COMMISSION HAD AT THE LAST MEETING OR AT THE OCTOBER MEETING. CHANGES INCLUDE REDUCING THE PARKING SPACES FROM A MINIMUM OF 33 TO A MAXIMUM OF 20, WHICH IS REFLECTED ON THE PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN IN THIS IMAGE. HERE. IT ALSO REMOVES THE REFERENCE TO RIGHTS TO FUTURE DEVELOPMENT IN THE ZONING TEXT. SO IT REALLY ONLY ALLOWS UPDATES TO THE EXISTING BUILDINGS AND DEDICATED BOX TRUCK SPACE IN THAT TOP RIGHT CORNER, AS WELL AS A POSSIBLE STORMWATER BASIN. SO THE CONCERNS ABOUT LIGHTING AND SCREENING ARE SHOWN HERE IN ZONING TEXT. THEY ARE INCLUDED AS WELL. SO THIS IS THE PROPOSED ZONING UP HERE OR SORRY, THE PROPOSED LIGHTING UP HERE. AND THE TEXT IS DEDICATED TO NO OFF SITE LIGHT SPILLAGE AND A MAXIMUM OF THREE FEET IN HEIGHT FOR ANY KIND OF LIGHTING SUCH AS THESE. AND IT ALSO DISCUSSES CONCERNS ABOUT SCREENING THAT WERE HAD AT THE LAST COMMISSION MEETING. THERE IS A SIX FOOT TALL PRIVACY SCREENING FENCE THAT IS INCLUDED HERE THAT HAS COMPLETE OPACITY FROM THE ADJACENT PARCEL TO THE SOUTH, AND DESIGN AND SPECIFICATIONS WILL BE SUBJECT TO THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN, BUT THIS IS WHAT IS PROPOSED AT THIS PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN STAGE. AND AGAIN, THIS IS THE, YOU KNOW, ELEVATIONS OF THE PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN. THE ONLY THING THAT'S CHANGED FROM THE LAST MEETING IS THAT THE WINDOWS ARE LARGER AND THEY MEET THE DGRS MORE THIS WAY. BUT OVERALL IT IS ALL THE SAME, INCLUDING THE COMMERCIAL STOREFRONT ON THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING, IN THE FRONT OF THE DETACHED STRUCTURE. SO AGAIN, THE SITE IS WELL SUITED FOR LOW IMPACT OFFICE USES. THERE, THE ZONING TEXT REMOVED RIGHTS TO FUTURE REDEVELOPMENT, AND IT INCLUDED CHANGES TO PARKING, LIGHTING AND SCREENING. AS STATED HERE, I DID ADD ONE RECOMMENDED CONDITION OF APPROVAL BASED ON WHAT WAS SAID AT THE LAST MEETING, AND THERE WAS JUST A COMMENT THAT SAID

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EVERYONE HERE ANDREW HILL 8000 WALTON PARKWAY HERE IN NEW ALBANY HERE REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT. WE WE WERE HERE A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO, AND WE HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT A NUMBER OF ITEMS THAT I THINK WE WERE VERY CAREFUL TO TAKE NOTES ON. AND ADDRESS LIGHTING WAS ONE OF THOSE, AS LAUREN POINTED OUT. SO WE'VE MADE A COMMITMENT TO THAT VERY LOW LEVEL LIGHTING.

WE HAVE TRIED TO BRING THE PARKING MORE IN COMPLIANCE WITH WHAT WOULD BE EXPECTED UNDER THE URBAN CENTER CODE. UNDERSTANDING THAT MAYBE IF THE CODE WERE TO BE APPLIED STRICTLY, I THINK WE WERE AT LIKE 15 OR 16 SPACES MAX. BUT IN THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE THAT WOULD TYPICALLY APPLY, WE HAVE ON STREET PARKING. SO WE PROVIDED FOR FIVE MORE SPACES, WHICH WE DISCUSSED LAST TIME. I THINK WE HAD SOME GENERAL ACKNOWLEDGMENT THAT WAS APPROPRIATE. I THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT THING WE DID IS NOT TO ALLOW FOR ANY FUTURE REDEVELOPMENT BEYOND SORT OF UPDATING THE ARCHITECTURE HERE AND PROVIDING THAT THE NEW PAVED PARKING AND SOME OF THOSE OTHER IMPROVEMENTS WAS PROBABLY QUITE A LEAP FOR YOU ALL TO SAY, WELL, WE'RE GOING TO TRUST YOU TO, TO, YOU KNOW, COME IN WITH A DEVELOPMENT PLAN WHEN THERE ARE A LOT OF QUESTIONS TO BE ANSWERED AT THAT TIME. SO IF THAT EVER COMES TO BE, MAY OR MAY NOT, BUT IF THERE WERE EVER A COMPLETE REDEVELOPMENT OF THE SITE, WE WOULD START ANEW WITH A NEW ZONING SO WE COULD ADDRESS THE BUILDING AND THE ASSOCIATED IMPROVEMENTS THAT WOULD GO ALONG WITH IT WITH A PARTICULAR PLAN. SO ROB IS HERE. HE HE CAN PROBABLY HELP WITH A LOT OF THE Q&A AS WE DID LAST TIME, BUT WE'RE BOTH READY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. OKAY, ENGINEERING, I REALIZED I FORGOT TO. YES. THANK YOU. AND AGAIN, I APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S PATIENCE AS WE GO THROUGH THESE. I'M TAKING ON THE ROLE OF ENGINEER TONIGHT. SO THE ENGINEERING COMMENTS ACTUALLY HAVE NOT CHANGED FROM THE ORIGINAL STAFF REPORT. AND THOSE INCLUDE RECOMMENDATION THAT THE APPLICANT PROVIDE ANY EVIDENCE OF ON SITE SITE WASTEWATER TREATMENT OR WELL WATER SYSTEMS LOCATED IN THE PARCEL HAVE BEEN ABANDONED IN ACCORDANCE WITH ALL APPLICABLE GOVERNMENTAL REGULATIONS. THERE'S A RECOMMENDATION THAT THE APPLICANT PROVIDE A TRAFFIC STUDY TO DETERMINE WHAT IMPROVEMENTS ARE NEEDED IN THE RIGHT OF WAY IN ORDER TO SUPPORT THE PROJECT, PROVIDING A REVISED PLAN SHOWING THE CURB CUT PROPOSED TO THE DEVELOPMENT, AND THOROUGHLY EVALUATE VEHICLE SITE DISTANCE. THAT'S USUALLY TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN WE DO THE TRAFFIC IMPACTS. THE TRAFFIC ACCESS STUDY, AS I. I BELIEVE YOU WANT ON THAT ONE. CORRECT. AND THEN THE LAST ONE IS PROVIDE MORE INFORMATION REGARDING THE PROPOSED REGARDING THE PROVISION OF GRAVITY SEWER SERVICE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT. THAT'S USUALLY A DETAIL THAT'S WORKED OUT AT THE TIME OF ENGINEERING. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I HAVE A SMALL MOUNTAIN OF MINOR DETAILS TO GO THROUGH. SO WORKING THROUGH THE TEXT, BECAUSE THE TEXT CONTROLS A LOT OF THIS YOU'VE GOT IN. SO PAGE 23A AND THEN YOU'VE GOT A CATEGORIES ONE AND TWO. SO IN CATEGORIES ONE YOU'VE GOT REAL ESTATE INSURANCE AGENTS PROFESSIONAL LEGAL ENGINEERING AND ARCHITECTURAL ACCOUNTING BROKER DEALERS, ALL OF THOSE. I HAVE A PROPOSED LIMITATION TO THIS THAT IF ANY OF CATEGORY ONE IS USED, THAT ONLY A SINGLE ENTITY BE THE USER, THAT YOU CAN'T HAVE TWO LIKE ONE IN EACH BUILDING. SO THERE'D BE A FIRM THE USE IS ALLOWED. ARE HERE OKAY. THIS IS TRYING TO DRIVE TOWARDS A. SO THE GOAL IN PROPOSING THAT IS THAT CUTTING DOWN ON TRAFFIC WHICH THE NEIGHBORS WERE WORRIED ABOUT, AND THAT IF THERE'S ONLY A SINGLE COMPANY HERE, THEN THAT WILL HELP MINIMIZE HOW MUCH TRAFFIC AND PEAK TIMES AND SUCH. COME TO THE MIC IF YOU WANT, OR YOU CAN CHAT. CHAT IN PRIVATE, BUT THAT'S OKAY. OKAY, I THINK THE RIGHT NOW WE HOST CLOSINGS IN OUR OFFICE. IT'S COMMONPLACE IN THE REAL ESTATE PROFESSION THAT TITLE COMPANIES FACILITATE THE CLOSING. SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO DRIVE TO A LOCATION THAT THE TITLE COMPANY HAS RENTED OR OCCUPIES, OR THEY WILL

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SURE, AS LONG AS IT'S NOT INDEPENDENT, IT WOULD BE A ANOTHER USER ACTUALLY, BECAUSE THE TITLE COMPANY IS INDEPENDENT, BUT IT WOULD BE AS PART OF THE REAL ESTATE SALES.

YEAH. YES. IF YOU HAD YOUR OWN ON SITE, IF YOU HAD YOUR OWN IN-HOUSE LEGAL STAFF AND PEOPLE WHO COULD DO CLOSINGS, YOU'D HAVE THEM DO IT. BUT INSTEAD YOU BRING IN, YOU HAVE OTHERS DONE. IT'S DONE BY OTHERS. YEAH. SIMILAR. I MEAN MAYBE THERE'S I DON'T YOU CAN GET CREATIVE WITH THE WORDING, BUT I WOULDN'T HAVE INTENTIONS OF SAY, HOSTING A THIRD PARTY UNRELATED BUSINESS THERE. BUT WE HAVE LIKE A STAGING ARM OF OUR COMPANY. IT IS SEPARATE ON PAPER. RIGHT. LIKE MY REAL ESTATE COMPANY DOESN'T OWN STAGING FURNITURE STAGING COMPANY THAT I ALSO OWN OWNS THEIR ADDRESS MAY BE THAT BUILDING. I HAVE A MINORITY OWNERSHIP IN A TITLE COMPANY. IT'S A JOINT VENTURE. BUT THE IDEA WOULD BE THAT THAT TITLE COMPANY WOULD PAY ME SOME RENT FOR THE USE OF THAT BUILDING. IF I EVER OWNED A BROKERAGE, I THINK THE BROKERAGE MIGHT OCCUPY ONE SPACE, THE TEAM ANOTHER. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A WAY TO, YOU KNOW, JUST IF IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF THE SAME USER, BUT IT'S NOT A TOTALLY SEPARATE BUSINESS, A RELATED BUSINESS, LIKE MAYBE NO UNRELATED BUSINESS SHALL OCCUPY THE SPACE. OTHER USERS ARE RELATED TO THE PRIMARY USER. YEAH, I THINK I COULD LIVE WITH THAT. OKAY. IF THAT SATISFIES. SURE. BECAUSE OKAY. YEAH OKAY OKAY OKAY. COOL. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S NOT TIED TO OWNERSHIP BECAUSE AS HE EXPLAINED, IT MAY BE TWO DIFFERENT ENTITIES, BUT THEY'RE RELATED IN THAT THEY'RE SERVING THE SAME CUSTOMER. YEAH. YEAH YEAH. AND AND OFTEN IT'S A CASE WHERE IT COULD HAVE BEEN DONE IN-HOUSE, BUT YOU DON'T DO IT IN-HOUSE. RIGHT. GOT IT. AND THAT SAME PAGE MINIMUM PARCEL SIZE MINIMUM IS ONE ACRE AND HAVE MINIMUM OF 100FT OF FRONTAGE ON A PUBLIC STREET. CAN WE GO WITH JUST. IT'S EXACTLY THE SIZE OF THIS LOT. YEAH. WE CAN I THINK WITH WITH THIS WITH WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR IN THE FIRST REVISION. IT PROBABLY WON'T. WE WON'T HAVE. I WAS THINKING OF IF THERE COULD BE TWO USERS ON THIS SITE. PERHAPS, BUT IF WE'RE AGREEING TO THAT FIRST ONE, THEN WE CAN ELIMINATE THIS COMPLETELY. OR, LIKE YOU SAID, TIE IT TO WHATEVER THE EXISTING CONDITIONS ARE BECAUSE IT'S A ONE POINT SOMETHING ACRE AND YOU WON'T HAVE 100FT OF FRONTAGE. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT EVEN MEETS THE I'D HAVE TO CHECK VILLAGE CENTER CODE, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEET OUR ONE, BOTH TOWNSHIP OR VILLAGE. I DON'T KNOW HOW THIS LOT ONE WAS ORIGINALLY PLATTED GOT ACCEPTED, OTHER THAN IT'S OLD ENOUGH THAT IT WASN'T UNDER ZONING CONTROL.

OKAY, YEAH, THAT'S PROBABLY ACCURATE. SO LET'S GO WITH EXISTING CONDITIONS FOR BOTH THE FRONTAGE AND THE SIZE. OKAY, I GUESS. SUBJECT TO ANY IF THERE ANY EVER RIGHT AWAY TAKEN.

I WOULDN'T WANT TO BE IN VIOLATION I DOUBT WE'VE GOT A LOT OF RIGHT AWAY HERE. SO IN OTHER WORDS, I WOULDN'T WANT TO HAVE A 10TH OF AN ACRE OF RIGHT OF WAY TAKEN AND ALL OF A SUDDEN WE'RE ISN'T THERE LIKE .28 ACRES ALREADY IN THE RIGHT OF WAY. THAT'S IT'S PRETTY SIZABLE. SO YEAH, PROBABLY. OKAY. SETBACKS 15FT FROM RIGHT AWAY. ONLY CONDUIT ROAD CAN WE SIMPLY SAY THAT IT'S MOVED TO THE. THE RIGHT OF WAY. THE THE THE SETBACK IS SUCH THAT EXISTING HOUSE MEETS THE CRITERIA BUT COULD COME NO FURTHER FORWARD THAN THAT.

THAT'S WHAT WE WERE GOING FOR. YEAH. SO I THINK IT'S SOMEWHAT SHOWN AS 15FT. SO WE WE JUST WANT TO REMAIN AS CURRENT LOCATION. THAT'S ALL WE'RE TRYING TO GET AT OKAY. SO I THOUGHT I SAW 29FT AND I THOUGHT WE'LL LEAVE IT AT WHAT IT IS. I MAY HAVE MISREAD A NUMBER OKAY. I THINK THE RIGHT OF WAY KIND OF IS DIAGONAL. SO MAYBE IT IS PORTIONS OF IT THAT ARE FURTHER AWAY. BUT I THINK THE CLOSEST POINT IS ABOUT 15FT. AND. LOOKING AT THE. OKAY, SO FOR STREET TREES THAT ONLY YOU'VE GOT A HUGE CHUNK OF PAVEMENT THERE, I PRESUME THAT CHUNK OF PAVEMENT STAYS. YES, THAT'S FOR YOUR CURB CUT. SO IT'S BETWEEN YOU AND THE FREEWAY. THAT PART IS WHERE THE NEW STREET TREES WOULD GO, RIGHT? OKAY. THE NEW FENCING.

THIS IS ROMANS SEVEN B, PAGE FOUR. SHALL PROVIDE COMPLETE CAPACITY AS BETWEEN THIS ZONING

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ANYWAYS, I HAVE A, I QUOTE, FOUR FOOT TALL BRICK FENCE. OKAY. AND I'M SURE AT SOME POINT IN THE GRADE IT'S FOUR FEET TALL AND THE REST OF IT IS TALLER THAN ME IN PLACES. AND SO NO, I DON'T WANT MORE THAN SIX FEET. I THE NEIGHBORS PROBABLY WOULD LIKE SIX FEET AND WE'LL ASK FOR THEIR OPINION. BUT I KNEW THAT THIS HAS TO HAVE A MINIMUM. MAKES SENSE.

ALL RIGHT. SO SIX FEET NOMINAL. AND WE MAY CHANGE THAT AFTER WE HEAR FROM THE NEIGHBORS WHO HOPEFULLY ARE HERE. THAT WAS WHAT I HAD QUESTIONS FROM OTHERS. AND I ASSUME WE'LL HEAR FROM THE NEIGHBORS. BUT HAS THERE BEEN ANY COMMUNICATION WITH THE NEIGHBORS TO THE SOUTH OF YOU? YES, I'M WITH YOU. ANY FURTHER MEETINGS? WE SO THEY ARE HERE. BUT YEAH, WE EXCHANGED AN EMAIL BACK AND FORTH WITH LIKE I SENT THEM WHAT WAS PRESENTED TODAY IN ADVANCE OF THE MEETING. WE DID NOT GET A CHANCE TO LIKE CONNECT ONE ON ONE. ASIDE FROM JUST SOME BRIEF CONVERSATION PRIOR TO THE MEETING, I THINK I'LL HAVE TO OWN SOME OF THAT.

WHEN I REACHED OUT TO HIM, IT WAS THE WEEK OF THANKSGIVING. SO, YOU KNOW, UNDERSTANDABLY BUSY FOR EVERYBODY. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. IN OUR LAST MEETING, THERE WAS A DISCUSSION ABOUT THERE MIGHT BE STAFF MEETINGS OR SOMETHING THAT HAVE A LARGER NUMBER OF CARS ON THE LOT THAT WE WERE CONCERNED ABOUT NOT HAVING ENOUGH PARKING SPOTS. HAS THAT BEEN A CHANGE IN A WAY THAT WE'RE NOT CONCERNED? I THINK WE THOUGHT THERE WOULD BE MAYBE 16 TO 18 MAX PEOPLE ON THOSE PARTICULAR OCCASIONS. AND SO WE WENT JUST A LITTLE TO THE 20 TO GET THERE. SO THAT'S HOW WE ARRIVED AT THAT NUMBER. SO 20 COVERS. YEAH. OKAY. YEAH. SO. QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC. NEIGHBORS ESPECIALLY COME TO THE MIC. YOU CAN NAME AND ADDRESS QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS TO US. AND WE'LL SEE IF WE CAN GET YOUR QUESTIONS ANSWERED AT LEAST. DANIELLE DAN JEFFERS 6588 NEW ALBANY ROAD. THE BIGGEST CONCERN I HAVE, WELL, CONCERNS THAT I DID SHARE WITH ROB WHEN HE SENT ME A MESSAGE THIS PAST WEEK WAS THE FENCING, BECAUSE THE LOCATION OF THE FENCE THAT HE SENT APPEARS TO BE IN THAT DRAINAGE TILE, WHICH HE SAID THEY'RE GOING TO WORK AROUND. BUT THE DOWNSIDE IS, IS THAT DRAINAGE TILE IS ON OUR PROPERTY, SO THE FENCE WOULD HAVE TO BE IN ON HIS PROPERTY. WHEN I WENT AND MEASURED HIS DRIVEWAY FROM THE DRIVEWAY INTO THE DRIVEWAY TO THE HOUSE, IT REALLY ONLY MEASURES LIKE 10 TO 11FT. SO IF HE'S PUTTING IN A FENCE, I MEAN, OUR TRUCK IS EIGHT FOOT 8.5FT WIDE. IF YOU CAN'T GET A BOX

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ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. GO AHEAD. SO THAT WAS THE BIG PART BECAUSE THE TOP PART OF THE DRIVEWAY THERE'S THAT WHATEVER THAT 15FT IS BETWEEN THEIR HOUSE AND THAT CURRENT HOUSE IN THE ROAD. THERE'S NO WAY TO PUT A FENCE UP THERE OR I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW WE WOULD SEPARATE THAT. SO IF THEY COME DOWN THE WRONG DRIVE NOW, THEY REALLY HAVE TO GO ALL THE WAY DOWN.

YEAH. TURN AROUND, COME BACK UP. SO THAT IS STILL THAT IS STILL A CONCERN. OUR FENCE IS ALLOWED IN THE RIGHT OF WAY. KNOW THAT THERE'S A PROBLEM THERE BECAUSE THE RIGHT OF WAY IS REALLY WIDE RIGHT THERE THAT THE QUARTER ACRE .28 ACRES I MENTIONED EARLIER IN THE PRESENTATION LOOKED LIKE FORMERLY THEIR PROPERTY RIGHT AWAY THAT WAS CEDED TO THE VILLAGE SO THAT THEY COULD PUT THE OVERPASS OVER FOR 605 AND SO CAN'T PUT A FENCE IN THE FIRST HOWEVER MANY FEET PERIOD, BECAUSE IT'S THE RIGHT OF WAY. I. I DON'T KNOW, TRAVERSAL TRAVERSAL BARRIERS INDICATING THAT. YEAH, I THINK IF WE'RE TRYING TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING CREATIVE, I PROBABLY GUT REACTION WOULD BE TO LEAN MORE TOWARDS SOME SIGNAGE, SOMETHING CREATIVE TO HELP INDICATE THAT I DON'T THINK PUTTING A FENCE IN THE RIGHT OF WAY IS A GOOD OPTION, BUT FENCING OR I'M SORRY, SOME SORT OF SIGNAGE WE COULD WORK OUT IN THE FUTURE. YEAH, I DON'T.

FIRST OF ALL, THOSE, YOU KNOW AGAIN INDICATED. IT COULD BE WE COULD STUDY THAT. BUT I DON'T THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE TYPICALLY WANT TO RIGHT AWAY. YEAH. DO WE USUALLY ALLOW SIGNAGE IN THE RIGHT OF WAY. WE DO NOT. I HAVE SOME VERY CREATIVE THOUGHTS ON HOW SIGNAGE CAN BE POSITIONED ON THE SITE, INTERNALLY TO THEIR SITE AND MAYBE EVEN ON THE FENCE, POTENTIALLY WE COULD WORK OUT AT THE TIME OF FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN, SINCE THE AREA BEING REZONED DOES NOT INCLUDE THE RIGHT OF WAY, WE DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE THE ABILITY.

THIS IS FOR OUR LEGAL STAFF. WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO PUT ANY CONDITIONS ON SOMETHING IN THE RIGHT OF WAY. CORRECT. OKAY. CAN WE MAKE IT TWO SEPARATE DRIVEWAYS? I DON'T KNOW HOW WE DO IT, BUT I MEAN, WE'RE TALKING A SAFETY ISSUE FOR KIDS AND EVERYTHING ELSE. IT I DON'T KNOW HOW OFTEN. RIGHT. MY MY WORRY FOR YOU GUYS IS THAT YOU GUYS COMING SOUTH AND THEN MAKING THAT LEFT WITH A MUCH SMALLER DRIVEWAY APRON MIGHT NOT FIND IT TO YOUR LIKING. I WOULD RATHER HAVE A SMALLER DRIVEWAY FOR US THAN HAVE TO HAVE THAT BIG OPENING UP THERE WHERE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, HE HAS SOMEBODY COMING IN. OH, CRAP. I'M LATE. I'M LATE TO WORK. AND THEY MAKE A HARD LINE TO MY KIDS. YEAH, BECAUSE IT'S A BUSINESS NOW. I'M NOT. THAT'S THAT'S THE CONCERN HERE. OKAY. CAN THE VILLAGE DO ANYTHING ABOUT DECIDING THAT THE VILLAGE ON ITS OWN DIME, SO TO SPEAK, WITH THE WELL, NOT PRESENT ON DIME, ON ITS OWN ACCORD? PUT A SIGN IN THE RIGHT OF WAY WITH, YOU KNOW, THIS BUSINESS, JUST A SMALL DIRECTIONAL THIS WAY.

YEAH, WE COULD TALK ABOUT IT. WE COULD ALSO TALK ABOUT MODIFYING THAT DRIVEWAY IN THE

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OTHER THINGS GET PICKED UP. CORRECT? OKAY. FALLING UNDER THE CATEGORY OF WHAT IF? WHAT IF THERE'S NOT ENOUGH ROOM FOR THEM TO PUT A FENCE AND THEY STILL HAVE A BUSINESS? AND JUST TO I'M SORRY, JUST TO ALLAY SOME OF YOUR CONCERNS, LIKE, SURE. LIKE THIS IS THIS, THIS HAPPENS ALL THE TIME RIGHT THERE, THERE THERE ARE DEVELOPERS THAT CHANGE THE PLANS. THEY GO THROUGH THE ZONING, WE PUT THESE CONDITIONS ON THEM. OUR STAFF IS SO GOOD AT PROBLEM SOLVING. SO I MEAN, THERE'S A MILLION WHAT IFS, RIGHT? BUT JUST KNOW THAT IF IF THEY DECIDE SOMETHING TONIGHT HAS TO BE IN THERE, RIGHT. IT HAS TO BE IN THERE. OTHERWISE THERE'S SOME OTHER STUFF THEY TALK TO. THEY COME BACK. RIGHT. OR THERE'S SOME OTHER THING THAT HAPPENS. SO THIS IS NOT JUST LIKE WE'RE GOING TO TRY. OKAY OKAY. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. AS THE HOMEOWNER LIKE I KNOW. YEAH. THIS IS SCARED. YEAH. YES. GREAT WORD FOR IT.

SCARED. AND WORKING TO DO IS TO BAKE IT INTO THEIR ZONING TEXT. RIGHT. WHICH MEANS IF THEY FAIL TO COMPLY, THEY'RE SUBJECT TO POTENTIALLY FINES OF LIKE 100 BUCKS A DAY, CUMULATIVE UNTIL THEY FIX IT. OR ACTUALLY, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CURRENT FINDING, WHAT THE VALUE WE FIND WHEN WE ACTUALLY FIND IS, IS THAT STILL $100? I DON'T WE DON'T WE DON'T OFTEN LAY FINES.

THAT'S HOW WE DON'T KNOW BECAUSE WE HAVE GOOD APPLICANTS THAT WILL WORK. YOU KNOW WELL AND DO WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO. SO MOST PEOPLE WOULD RATHER FIX IT THAN PAY A FINE. YEAH. OKAY.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU. I JUST HAVE A QUICK QUESTION. THE APPLICANT YOU HAD MENTIONED.

I'M SORRY, MA'AM, YOU HAD MENTIONED ROB THINKS IT'LL ACTUALLY INCREASE THE VALUE OF THEIR PROPERTY. DO YOU WANT TO? IS THAT BECAUSE POTENTIAL ZONING FOR COMMERCIAL IN THE FUTURE. DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK ON THAT? SURE. SO AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S WORTH NOTING. I'M A REAL ESTATE PROFESSIONAL. RIGHT. IT'S A IT'S A REAL ESTATE BUSINESS GOING IN THERE.

SELL A LOT OF HOMES IN THIS AREA. I THINK IT WOULD PROBABLY HAVE A POSITIVE IMPACT ON VALUE ON TWO FRONTS. SO ONE, I'LL BE MAKING SUBSTANTIAL IMPROVEMENTS TO THE PROPERTY. I'M GUESSING

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OKAY. YEAH. YEAH, THAT'S WE'RE GOOD WITH THAT. OKAY. AND FOR THE NEIGHBORS, IF I COULD HAVE THEM BACK FOR A REAL QUICK QUESTION, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT FENCE HEIGHT AND I DIDN'T GET YOUR INPUT ON THAT. OUR GOAL WAS TO KEEP THE HEADLIGHTS OUT OF YOUR YARD AND KEEP THE CARS OUT OF YOUR YARD. IS SIX FEET TOO TALL. I DON'T THINK SO. OKAY. I THINK SIX FEET WOULD BE.

I MEAN, IF THEY COULD PLANT TREES, THAT WOULD BE BETTER. BUT AGAIN, THOSE ARE MUCH WIDER, SO IT WOULD MAKE IT MORE DIFFICULT. OKAY. THANK YOU. OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC. GO AHEAD. SORRY. FOR THE NOT HERDING OF THE VALUE OF THE HOUSE. AM I UNDERSTANDING THAT? IT'S BECAUSE WE COULD RESUME THAT THAT WOULD INCREASE THE VALUE OF OUR HOME, NOT HURT IT BECAUSE AGAIN, PEOPLE ANYBODY THAT I'VE TALKED TO AND I'VE TALKED TO A LOT OF PEOPLE ON THE TALKER, IF YOU'VE NEVER MET ME, NOBODY HAS SAID THAT THEY WOULD WANT TO BUY OUR HOME AND LIVE NEXT TO A BUSINESS. THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I'M HEARING FROM PEOPLE. SO WHAT I'M HEARING THAT'S ANOTHER STRUGGLE IS OKAY. SO IN OTHER WORDS, IN ORDER FOR ME TO THEN SELL AT SOME POINT, WHICH I'VE GOT A WHILE, I'VE GOT A KID IN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. WE WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE REZONING PROCESS, THAT I WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH ALL THIS TO SELL MY HOUSE, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THE WAY TO THE WAY THAT TYPICALLY WORKS IS THAT IT MIGHT BE A CONTINGENCY ON THE SALE THAT THE THAT THE BUYER SAYS, IF WE CAN GET IT RESOLVED, WE'LL BUY IT AND WE'LL PAY THIS MUCH. BUT THEY TAKE ALL THE EFFORT TO. WE'VE OFTEN SEEN THAT WHERE WE ASK, DO YOU DO YOU OWN THIS PROPERTY? AND WE ASK IT OF THE DEVELOPER SAYS, NO, BUT WE HAVE IT UNDER CONTRACT, WHICH MEANS IF WE DO OUR THINGS, WE CAN BUY IT AT A PRICE WE ALREADY KNOW. AND SO THAT SOUNDS LIKE MAKE THINGS A LITTLE MORE DIFFICULT FOR US AS WELL. IT DEPENDS ON HOW MOTIVATED THE DEVELOPER IS WHO LOOKS AT THAT AND SAYS, WE CAN START REDEVELOPING THIS. AND.

THERE IS PRESSURE TOWARDS THAT. I LIVE FURTHER DOWN THAT SAME ROAD AND PEOPLE CAME TO US ABOUT YOUR WHERE YOU LIVE, AND THAT COULD BE COMMERCIAL AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO IT IS PART OF THE MIX. SO YOU COULD SELL IT AS IS. YEAH, YEAH. TO ANYBODY FOR A HOUSE YOU COULD POTENTIALLY DEVELOP OR ANOTHER BUSINESS OWNER MAY WANT TO COME IN AND REZONE IT. AND SO POTENTIALLY HIGHER VALUE SELLING IT AS A COMMERCIAL LOT VERSUS A RESIDENTIAL LOT, PARTICULARLY IF THEY SAID, OH, YOUR NORTHERN NEIGHBOR HAS WOULD REQUIRE REZONING. IF WE COMBINE THESE TWO, THEN MAYBE WE CAN COME UP WITH A LARGER, MORE INTEGRATED BUSINESS WITH IT. WITH 200FT OF FRONTAGE THAN 100FT OF FRONTAGE, YOU GUYS HAVE REALLY NARROW LOTS FOR AS MANY ACRES AS YOU HAVE. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC? ANY OTHERS FROM THE COMMISSION? NONE FOR ME NOW. OKAY. SO I MOVE TO ACCEPT THE STAFF REPORTS AND RELATED DOCUMENTS INTO THE RECORD. ZONING CHANGE 78 TO 2025 YEAR SECOND ON THE DOCUMENTS MOTION SECOND. DISCUSSION ON THE DOCUMENTS

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YES, MR. LAWSON. YES. THE AYES HAVE IT. MOTION PASSES. ALL VOTES TO ADMIT THE DOCUMENT.

ALL RIGHT. AND SO THEN THE PROBLEM FOR THE THE REAL QUESTION FOR US IS, IS THE USE APPROPRIATE? IS THE REZONING APPROPRIATE FOR THIS? ANY FURTHER COMMENTARY OR DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT. IN MY NOTES I HAD A TOTAL OF SEVEN CONDITIONS. THE FIRST TWO THE FIRST ONE IS IN THE STAFF REPORT. THE SECOND ONE IS IN THE STAFF PRESENTATION ABOUT SOLAR. THIRD WAS OTHER USES HAVE TO BE RELATED TO THE PRIMARY USER'S USE. FOUR IN ROMAN NUMERAL FOUR, A AND B, EXACTLY THE SIZE OF THE LOT AND THE SETBACK LINE EXACTLY MATCHES THE EXISTING HOUSE. SO THE HOUSE MEETS THE NEW SETBACK LINE FROM NEW ALBANY CONDUIT ROAD. DID YOU READ THAT ONE? CONDITION FOUR DEALS WITH ROMAN NUMERAL FOUR, PART A, THE SIZE OF THE. THE LOT SIZE IS EXACTLY THE SIZE OF THE LOT INSTEAD OF THE ONE ACRE CAPITAL. B THE SETBACK ON NEW ALBANY ROAD WOULD BE SUCH THAT IT MATCHES THE EXISTING HOUSE. THE EXISTING HOUSE IS IN COMPLIANCE. IN OTHER WORDS, BRING IT THAT FAR BACK. OKAY. CONDITION FIVE ROMAN NUMERAL SEVEN. THE SIX FOOT. THE FENCE IS SIX FEET, NOMINALLY. SO THAT WE HAVE A MINIMUM SIX. WE SORT OUT THE RIGHT OF WAY, THE AREA THAT'S IN THE RIGHT OF WAY, AND THE SHARED DRIVEWAY. AND THE SOLUTION COMES TO US FOR APPROVAL AT FINAL. THAT WILL INVOLVE A LOT OF MOVING PARTS WITH STAFF AND LEGAL AND SUCH. SEVEN PARKING GOES NO FURTHER EAST THAN THE EAST FACE OF THE SECONDARY STORAGE BUILDING, AS DRAWN IN THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN.

PARKING GOES NO FURTHER EAST THAN THE EAST FACE OF THE EXISTING ACCESSORY BUILDING.

WHICH IS HOW THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN IS CURRENTLY DRAWN. CAN WE HEAR A MOTION FOR A ZONING CHANGE? 78. I MOVE FOR APPROVAL ZONING CHANGE 78 2025. BASED ON THE FINDINGS, THE STAFF REPORT, INCLUDING THE SEVEN CONDITIONS THAT I JUST RELATED, I'LL SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION. ANY THE ROLL, MR. KIRBY? YES. MR. WALLACE? NO. MR. SCHELL YES, MISS. BRIGGS? YES.

MR. LAWSON? NO. THE AYES HAVE IT. THE MOTION PASSES WITH THREE VOTES IN FAVOR AND TWO VOTES AGAINST. AND FOR THOSE OF YOU VOTING NO, WOULD YOU MIND STATING FOR THE RECORD, YES, I VOTED NO BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THE APPLICATION MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS UNDER CODE ORDINANCE SECTION 11 1106. I DON'T THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE BASED ON THE ADJACENT LAND USE.

POTENTIAL ACCESS AND TRAFFIC FLOW ISSUES AND THE ADJACENT ZONING. I THINK THIS IS SORT OF A SQUARE PEG, ROUND HOLE SITUATION HERE, AND THE FACT THAT WE HAD TO PUT SEVEN CONDITIONS ON IT TO SORT OF GET IT TO WHERE IT COULD BE, COULD BE VOTED ON TO ME, EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT ALL NOT ALWAYS UNUSUAL FOR THERE TO BE CONDITIONS, SEVEN CONDITIONS ON AN APPLICATION LIKE THIS ONE, I THINK, IS FAIRLY UNUSUAL, AND I JUST DON'T THINK THIS USE IS APPROPRIATE AT THIS TIME, GIVEN THE MAKEUP OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE SIZE OF THE LOTS, AND THE FACT THAT THERE'S A RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY DIRECTLY NEXT DOOR. FOR SIMILAR REASONS THAT WERE STATED THERE. I THINK THE ADJACENCIES OF THE USES ARE DIFFICULT TO PUT TOGETHER AT THIS POINT, AND THAT WE HAVE. IT'S REALLY JUST THE COMPATIBILITY THAT GOES WITH IT.

I DON'T THINK THAT IT WORKS FOR WHAT'S GOING ON HERE, PLUS THE CONCERNS OF SIGHTLINES AND

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ANYONE ON THE PUBLIC AND YOU SAID ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THIS? OKAY, I MOVE FOR ACCEPTANCE, THE STAFF REPORTS RELATED DOCUMENTS INTO THE RECORD FOR FINAL DEVELOPMENT MODIFICATION 93. DO I HEAR A SECOND ON THE DOCUMENTS? SECOND.

DISCUSSION ON THE DOCUMENTS. MOTION TO THE ROLL, PLEASE, MR. KIRBY. YES, MR. WALLACE? YES, MR. SHELL? YES, MISS BRIGGS. YES, MR. LARSON. YES. THE AYES HAVE IT. THE MOTION PASSES WITH ALL VOTES TO ADMIT THE DOCUMENTS THERE. YOUR MOTION ON THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT MODIFICATION ITSELF. I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE APPLICATION FM 93 2025. BASED ON FINDINGS IN THE STAFF REPORT. SECOND DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION, PLEASE. MR. LARSON. YES, MR. WALLACE? YES, MR. SHELL? YES, MISS. BRIGGS. YES. MR. KIRBY. YES, YES. MOTION PASSES. ALL VOTES TO APPROVE TO APPROVE THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN. MODIFICATION TAKES US TO ZONING CHANGE. 94 2025 HEARING FROM STAFF, PLEASE. YES. ALL RIGHT, SO THIS REQUEST IS TO REZONE ABOUT 101 ACRES LOCATED ON JONESTOWN ROAD FROM AN AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT TO A LIMITED GENERAL EMPLOYMENT FOR AN AREA TO BE KNOWN AS THE US 62 BUSINESS ZONING DISTRICT. THE PROPERTY IS BEING ANNEXED INTO THE CITY AND WILL BE SURROUNDED BY OTHER LARGE USES. THE TEXT CONTAINS THE SAME LIST OF PERMITTED, CONDITIONAL AND PROHIBITED USES AS OTHER SIMILAR ZONING DISTRICTS, WHICH INCLUDE THINGS SUCH AS MANUFACTURING AND PRODUCTION, GENERAL OFFICE ACTIVITIES, WAREHOUSES AND DISTRIBUTION AND DATA CENTERS, AND RESEARCH AND PRODUCTION USES. JUST SEEING THAT AGAIN. AND THEN FOR SETBACKS ALONG US 62, THERE WILL BE 185FT OF SETBACK FROM THE CENTER LINE FOR BOTH BUILDING AND PAVEMENT AND THEN FROM THE EASTERN BOUNDARY, JUST KIND OF LOST. BUT ALONG THE LG ON THIS SIDE OVER HERE WOULD BE 25FT, AND THEN THE SOUTHERN PERIMETER WOULD BE 100FT SETBACK. OVERALL, THE LARGE SCALE OF THE REZONING WILL RESULT IN A MORE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN REDEVELOPMENT OF THE AREA THAT WILL ENSURE COMPATIBILITY BETWEEN USES. THE PROPOSED REZONING WILL ALLOW FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE BUSINESS OF BUSINESSES THAT WILL GENERATE REVENUE FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, WHILE ELIMINATING RESIDENTIAL UNITS HAVING A POSITIVE IMPACT ON THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. AND THE PROPOSED ZONING TEXT DOES HAVE THE SAME TYPICAL DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AS THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES FOR ROOFTOP SCREENING, FOR SIGHT AND SOUND SETBACKS, ARCHITECTURAL STYLES AND LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENTS, AND MYSELF AS WELL AS THE APPLICANT ARE HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. OKAY. ENGINEERING? YES. ONE SECOND. I AM SO SORRY. I'M OFF MY GAME HERE. OH, IS ON THE SCREEN OKAY. PERFECT. SORRY.

SO THE ENGINEERING COMMENTS ARE THAT THE INTERNAL RAILWAY NETWORK SHALL BE CONSTRUCTED.

PUBLIC STREET STANDARDS, A TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY SHOULD BE PREPARED TO HELP DETERMINE WHAT

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THE DEVELOPER PROVIDES DOCUMENTATION SHOWING THAT ALL PRIVATE, WELL AND SEPARATE SYSTEMS HAVE BEEN ABANDONED. ENGINEERING AGREES WITH THE THE PROPOSED RIGHT OF WAY DEDICATION OF 60FT ALONG 62, AND THEN WORKING WITH THE APPLICANT TO MAKE SURE WE WOULD ESTABLISH A RURAL BUFFER ALONG THE FRONTAGE. I ALSO, THE APPLICANT HAS PROACTIVELY WORKED WITH US TO ADDRESS MOST OF THESE COMMENTS. THERE ARE SOME COMMENTS THAT THEY PROVIDED TO US TODAY, KIND OF PROVIDING SOME FURTHER CLARIFICATION ON ON ON THESE.

I'LL LET THEM GO OVER THOSE. BUT STAFF IS COMFORTABLE WITH THE MODIFICATIONS THAT THEY'RE THE CLARIFICATIONS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE TONIGHT. A REAL QUICK QUESTION. THIS IS COVERED UNDER THE SAME MAKE HOLE AGREEMENTS WE HAVE WITH JOHNSTOWN SCHOOLS, I PRESUME.

THIS IS. YES. THAT'S RIGHT. OH, REALLY? OKAY. I THOUGHT IT WAS TOO FAR NORTH. NEVER MIND. ALL RIGHT. DO WE HAVE THE APPLICANT? STATEMENT UNDER THE PARKWAY? ALBANY? YES. THIS IS LG ZONING THAT WE'VE DONE SO MANY TIMES BEFORE. YEAH, THIS IS KIND OF A PIECE. I WAS A BIT SURPRISED THAT THIS WAS IN THE ALBANY PLAYING WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AS WELL. BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT 101 ACRES NEXT TO A LOT OF SIGNIFICANT BUSINESS PARK DEVELOPMENT THAT'S ONGOING.

AND YOU CAN SEE IT'S AWS TO THE EAST OF US IN THAT ONE PHOTO. SO, YOU KNOW, NOT MANY OPPORTUNITIES LEFT IN THE NEW ALBANY PLAIN LOCAL SCHOOL DISTRICT FOR BIG ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS THAT CAN HELP THE FINANCES OF THE SCHOOLS. SO GREAT OPPORTUNITY HERE. AND ONE OF THE FEW REMAINING. SO I DON'T THINK ANY OF THE STANDARDS IN HERE ARE ANY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE'VE DONE IN OTHER PLACES THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY, AND IT'S BEEN A GREAT RECIPE FOR SUCCESS. TOM, I'M GOING TO HAVE YOU COME UP AND MAYBE SPEAK TO SOME OF THOSE ENGINEERING COMMENTS. WOULD YOU MIND PUTTING THOSE UP ON THE BOARD? SO THE ENGINEERING COMMENTS WE'RE IN AGREEMENT WITH, WITH CONDITIONS FOUR, FIVE, SIX AND SEVEN, ITEMS ONE AND TWO, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE, LOOK, AT THE MOMENT WE DON'T HAVE A SITE PLAN. WHAT I MENTIONED TO CITY STAFF AND CITY ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT IS ONCE A SITE PLAN IS ESTABLISHED FOR THIS PROJECT, IF AN INTERNAL ROAD SYSTEM IS NEEDED, WE'LL COME BACK AND PLAT THOSE ROADS. THOSE WILL BE BUILT TO CITY SPECS AND STANDARDS. AS EXPECTED. I DON'T FULLY UNDERSTAND WHAT AN INTERNAL ROAD NETWORK MEANS. IF IT'S NOT A PUBLICLY DEDICATED ROAD WITHIN THE SITE, AND IF THAT'S NEEDED, BY ALL MEANS WE'LL HAVE TO COME BACK AND DO THAT. OTHERWISE, IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A PARKING LOT AND A BUILDING ORIENTATION AND DRIVE AISLES, THERE ISN'T A PUBLIC STANDARD FOR THOSE. WE'LL MEET ALL OF THE CODES AND REGULATIONS FOR THAT. IT'S JUST A PREMATURE QUESTION, AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT IF WE NEED A PUBLIC NETWORK OF ROADS THROUGH HERE, WE'LL COME BACK AND DO THAT. SO THAT'S NUMBER ONE. NUMBER TWO, AS FAR AS THE TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY, IMPORTANT TO HIGHLIGHT THE FACT THAT ODOT IS IN THE PROCESS OF DOING AN ANALYSIS IN A WIDENING AND ENGINEERING FOR 62 FROM THE 161 INTERCHANGE ALL THE WAY UP TO JOHNSTOWN. THAT'S WELL UNDERWAY. THERE HAVE BEEN OVER HALF A DOZEN PUBLIC MEETINGS ON THAT. SO MY COMMENT ON THAT IS ANY IMPROVEMENTS NEEDED TO 62 VIA A DEVELOPMENT ON THIS PARCEL MUST BE COORDINATED WITH THE ODOT IMPROVEMENT PLANS AND THE CITY ENGINEERING RECOMMENDATIONS AS IT RELATES TO THAT. FOR EXAMPLE, ACCESS POINTS ON THE 62, WHETHER IT'S ONE OR IT'S TWO, WHAT ODOT NEEDS TO BE AT THE TABLE IN ADDITION TO THE CITY FOR THAT, AND THAT THERE IS A CLEAR EXPECTATION OF WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT IMPROVEMENT PLAN. SO I'M AGREEING WITH CONDITIONS ONE AND TWO. BUT BUT I THINK THERE'S SOME BACKGROUND THAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THE COMMISSION IS AWARE OF. AS FAR AS ITEM NUMBER THREE, A TREE SURVEY AND ANY TREE REMOVAL BE APPROVED BY THE CITY, I'M NOT IN AGREEMENT WITH DOING THAT. WE WILL DO A FLOODPLAIN ANALYSIS THAT WILL CERTAINLY RESULT IN PRESERVATION ZONES ALONG THE RIPARIAN CORRIDOR. WE

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OKAY, OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM COMMISSIONERS? ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WITH QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS? IF SO, COME FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND ASK.

CHRISTINE SOSKA 11062 JOHNSTOWN ROAD, WHICH IS JUST SOUTH OF THIS. SO MY QUESTIONS WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, LIGHTING IS JUST IT'S GOING TO BE TONS OF BIG TALL LIGHTS LIGHTING UP A GIGANTIC PARKING LOT THAT ARE JUST GOING TO BE SEEN FROM MILES AWAY RELATING TO THE WETLANDS. WE DO HAVE PROBABLY TWICE A YEAR FLOODING THROUGH THAT TRIBUTARY TO BLACK CREEK, WHICH MEANS MY MOM CANNOT DRIVE ACROSS HER DRIVEWAY AND MY SISTER USUALLY CAN'T, AND WE JUST HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE WATER TO GO DOWN SO I CAN SEE THAT GETTING WORSE PROBABLY WOULD HAVE BEEN MORE THAN TWICE A YEAR. OH. I HAVE VIDEOS OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. LET ME ANSWER AND TALK TO THOSE IN TURN. I'LL START LOSING LIGHTS. WE SHOULD HAVE LIGHTING STANDARDS AND SETBACKS. SO WHAT IS THE PAVEMENT SETBACK TO THE SOUTH ON THIS PROPERTY GOING TO BE? IT'S 100FT. OKAY, SO THERE WON'T BE STREET LIGHTS EXCEPT OVER THE PARKING LOTS AND THERE AT LEAST 100FT AWAY. AND DO WE HAVE NUMBERS YET ON THE SPILLOVER? I THOUGHT WE DID AT ONE POINT IN TIME AND THEN WE DIDN'T, AND WE DO NOT HAVE ANY IN THE TEXT. I KNOW THE LAST MEETING WE TALKED ABOUT POINT THREE, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. TYPICALLY ON DEVELOPMENT SITES LIKE THIS, THIS LARGE, WITH THAT 100 FOOT SETBACK, YOU GET TO ZERO INTENSITY. SO IT'S USUALLY NOT A CHALLENGE. OKAY.

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SO THAT MEANS YOU DON'T GET ANY MORE FLOODING. BUT IF YOU WANT THEM TO FIX YOUR FLOODING, THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO, AND NOT UNLESS YOU WORK TOGETHER ON SOMETHING. WITH PERMISSION FROM.

I'M NOT ASKING FOR ANYTHING TO BE FIXED, I JUST DON'T WANT OUR COUPLE TIMES A YEAR PROBLEM TO BECOME WORSE OR MORE FREQUENT, BUT STRONGLY SUGGEST THAT YOU DOCUMENT THOSE EVERY SO OFTEN.

FLOODS. IF YOU DON'T ALREADY HAVE PICTURES, TAKE THOSE PICTURES AND SAY SO YOU KNOW AND COULD SAY IF NEED BE IN FRONT OF STAFF OR IN COURT. THIS IS NORMAL. AND WHAT I'M SAYING NOW IS NOT OKAY. AND THEN THERE'S A WHAT IS NORMAL. YOU NEED TO BE ABLE TO SHOW THEM WHAT IS NORMAL SO THAT THEN IT'S ENFORCEMENT, BECAUSE THAT'S BUILT INTO THE VILLAGE ORDINANCE THAT YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO CHANGE. YOUR NEIGHBOR'S DRAINAGE. IS THE ASK LEGAL TO. YOU SAID IT VERY WELL, NEAL. OKAY. IS THIS GOING TO BE TIED INTO CITY WATER AND SEWER VIA LIKE THE BEACH ROAD DEVELOPMENT? YES. SO WE DON'T NEED TO WORRY ABOUT OUR WELL GOING DRY. SO AS A PERSON WHO HAS A WELL, STILL, EVEN THOUGH I'M IN THE VILLAGE CENTER, HAVE YOU WELLS TESTED THIS DEVICE? I IT'S A IT'S FREE ADVICE. I'M NOT A LAWYER, BUT AS A PERSON WHO HAS A HOUSE WITH A WELL, HAVE YOUR WELL PRESSURE CHECKED AND DOCUMENT FLOW CHECKED AND DOCUMENTED. AND THEN IF THEY CUT THROUGH AN AQUIFER SOMEWHERE, WHICH HAS HAPPENED, YOU CAN SAY MY WELL DOESN'T PERFORM AS WELL. HERE'S MY NUMBERS BEFORE, HERE'S MY NUMBERS AFTER. AND THEY'RE ON THE HOOK TO GET IT RIGHT. IN THE EARLY HISTORY OF DEVELOPMENT HERE, THERE WAS A LOT OF BLUE WATER TANKS DOWN JOHNSTOWN ROAD WHEN THEY HIT, WHEN THEY PUT IN THE COUNTRY CLUB AND HIT AN AQUIFER AND BROKE ONE OF THE WALLS ON THE WATER, AND THEY HAD TO SORT WATER OUT. AND THAT WAS VERY LIKE NUMBER EIGHT DEVELOPER TO PAY FOR THAT TESTING FOR THE RESIDENTS. THAT WOULD BE AMAZING, I PRESUME. LET ME ASK AGAIN. THAT'S IN THE LAW THAT THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO SCREW UP YOUR. WELL, YEAH, I THINK SHE WAS ASKING FOR PAYING FOR THE TEST FOR MY PRIVATE PRESSURE CHECK OR WHATEVER IT WAS YOU JUST SAID A FLOW RATE A A WELL DRILLER, A LICENSED WELL DRILLER SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO THIS OR TELL YOU WHO CAN. YEAH, THEY CAN PROBABLY GET A GREAT DEAL IF THEY LIKE, PAY FOR THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORS TO ALL HAVE THEIR THEIR OWN INSURANCE KIND OF A THING. IT'S IT'S UP TO YOU TO DECIDE WHETHER YOU WANT IT OR NOT. IT'S JUST FRUSTRATING THAT THAT'S ON THE HOMEOWNERS IN THE AREA, I UNDERSTAND COMPLETELY YOU HAD OTHER WITH THE REST OF YOUR LIST. YOU WERE YOU WERE GOING OVER LIGHTS AND FLOODING AND WATER AND WELL, THAT WAS THOSE ARE MY BIG CONCERNS, OKAY. OTHERS. I THINK, YEAH, WE CAN'T HEAR IF IT'S NOT THE MIC. SO 11487 JOHNSTOWN ROAD. SO I'M RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET OKAY. BOUGHT MY HOUSE 15 YEARS AGO.

LOVED THE RURAL LIFESTYLE THE AGRICULTURAL AND NOW IT'S BOOMING METROPOLIS OF LIGHTS.

WE CAN NO LONGER SEE THE STARS AT NIGHT. IT'S IT'S PRETTY TERRIBLE. MY SON'S VERY DISAPPOINTED. SO I'M VERY CURIOUS WHAT THE PLAN IS. I SAW THE 185 FOOT SETBACK FROM 62, WHICH IS GREAT. SO WHAT ARE THE PLANS FOR SCREENING DEVELOPMENT? WHAT ARE THE PLANS WITH THE ROUTES TO GET INTO THE PROPERTY? OUT OF THE PROPERTY? 62 IS INSANE. ALL WE'VE DONE TRUCKS ALL DAY LONG. YEAH, I THINK THERE'S A BIG CONCERN. LET'S, LET'S LET'S SEE WHAT SAYS TOM HAD. YEAH. ON 6262 IS INSANE. THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT IT. THE WIDTH AND AND DESIGN OF 62 IS WOEFULLY INADEQUATE TO HANDLE THE TRAFFIC VOLUMES THAT 62 IS EXPERIENCING TODAY. SIX MAILBOXES EVERY TWO YEARS. SO THE OHIO DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION HAS STARTED AN OUTREACH AND STARTED A VERY AGGRESSIVE CAMPAIGN TO NOTIFY PROPERTY OWNERS AND AND MUNICIPALITIES AND THOSE AFFECTED BY IT TO START THE DESIGN OF A SIGNIFICANT WIDENING OF 62. SO I UNDERSTAND YOU BOUGHT A PROPERTY TO BE OUT IN THE COUNTRY 15 YEARS AGO. IT IS, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, IT IS NO LONGER OUT IN THE COUNTRY. AND AND YOU WILL AND AND YOU WILL SEE A WIDENING OF 62 THAT IS DESIGNED TO ODOT SPEC TO ACCOMMODATE THE INCREASED TRAFFIC. I CAN GET YOU ON THAT LIST OF PUBLIC NOTICES. THERE'S ONE THERE'S ANOTHER MEETING COMING UP. THEY'RE HELD AT THE CHURCH OF THE RESURRECTION AND THE ANNEX BUILDING. I BELIEVE

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ARE YOU GOING TO COME OVER HERE? IS THAT PART OF THE MASTER PLAN? DO WE KNOW? SO I TAKE A STAB AT IT. WANTS TO ADDRESS IT TOO. BUT FROM THE CITY'S PERSPECTIVE, THE CITY DOESN'T USE EMINENT DOMAIN TO TAKE PEOPLE'S PROPERTIES TO REZONE THEM. WHAT STARTS THIS PROCESS IS OUR FOLKS GETTING TOGETHER TO SELL THEIR PROPERTY. AND THEN MAKE THIS MAKE A ZONING CHANGE PROPOSAL. THE CITY DOESN'T COME IN AND DO THAT FOR FOLKS. THE QUESTION ABOUT THE THE THE SCHOOL IMPACT STATEMENT, SCHOOL IMPACT STATEMENTS ARE REQUIRED TO BE SUBMITTED WITH EVERY REZONING APPLICATION THAT IT'S IT'S A LETTER YOU PROBABLY SAW IN THE SUBMITTAL THAT SIMPLY EVALUATES THE IMPACT OF WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED ON THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. SO IT SAYS THAT STUDENTS THERE WILL BE NO STUDENTS THAT COME OUT OF THIS ZONING DISTRICT NOW, BUT THERE WILL BE A POSITIVE FINANCIAL IMPACT FROM THE COMMERCIAL TAX STANDPOINT. RIGHT, BECAUSE, RIGHT. AND THEN A COMMERCIAL TAX BASE THERE, WHICH DOESN'T HELP US AT ALL, BUT IT HELPS THE TOTAL VALUATION OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT'S PROPERTY. SO THIS DOESN'T HELP US. LET ME GET TO THAT. SO WHEN THE SCHOOL SAYS WE NEED, SAY, $1.2 MILLION TO RENOVATE A BUILDING, THE WAY THAT GETS LEVIED IS BY THE LAND VALUES OF THE PROPERTIES UNDER THAT. AND SO HAVING A HIGHLY VALUABLE PROPERTY THAT'S NOT YOURS, IT WILL SUPPLY MORE OF THAT $1.2 MILLION THAN YOU WOULD BE ASKED TO SUPPLY. WELL, MY MY REAL ESTATE TAXES JUST WENT UP 40% TO HELP WITH THIS.

YEAH. SO I MEAN, I DON'T I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW REMOVING THESE HOUSES IS POSITIVELY IMPACTING THE PEOPLE THAT SUPPORT THIS COMMUNITY. FEWER STUDENTS TO EDUCATE AND MORE DOLLARS TO EDUCATE THEM WITH. BECAUSE AS FARMLAND PARTICULARLY IS FARMLAND NOT IN THE VILLAGE BECAUSE THIS IS BEING ANNEXED. RIGHT? OKAY. SO AT THE MOMENT THESE STUDENTS AREN'T I GUESS IT DOESN'T MATTER IF IT'S IN THE DISTRICT. THEY'RE IN THE DISTRICT. I DON'T KNOW, I, I SLIPPED THERE FEWER STUDENTS AND HIGHER LAND VALUE. AND SO THE BURDEN OF PROPERTY TAX IS SPLIT OUT ACCORDING TO THE LAND. THE TOTAL LAND VALUE BY THE LAND VALUE. I'LL LET LEGAL SPEAK TO THAT. IF I DIDN'T SCREW THAT UP, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GET ABATEMENTS. I CAN SPEAK LOOSELY ABOUT ABATEMENT POLICIES OF THE CITY IS WE HAVE A POLICY. WE MAKE SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND ALL EMERGENCY SERVICES WHOLE THAT THAT THAT NO MATTER WHAT FINANCIAL INCENTIVE AGREEMENTS ARE ALREADY INTO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT ALWAYS HAS TO BE MADE WHOLE AS PART OF THAT PROCESS, FROM THE INCOME TAX THAT COMES OFF THE PROPERTY. AND MAYBE I CAN INTERJECT HERE AS WELL, THIS REZONING APPLICATION, THERE IS NO PROJECT THAT IS IMMINENT, RIGHT? THERE IS NO END USER THAT'S BEEN IDENTIFIED FOR THE PARCEL THAT'S BEING ANNEXED IN SOUND. SO THERE IS NO ABATEMENT ON THE TABLE OR THAT'S NOT EVEN PART OF THE DISCUSSION. NOW, THE MAP THAT'S ON, ON THE BOARD RIGHT NOW IS THE ZONING MAP CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY'S MASTER PLAN. SO LOTS OF DISCUSSION ABOUT SCHOOL IMPACT AND HOW THAT WORKS. THE NEW ALBANY COMPANY IS NOT GOING OUT AND BUYING PROPERTIES WITH THE EXPECTATION THAT WE ARE ELIMINATING HOMES IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND REPLACING THEM WITH BUSINESSES, BECAUSE THAT'S

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THAT WILL NOT CHANGE. IT'S NOT AFFECTED BY ANY OF THIS. IF YOUR EXPECTATION IS TO STAY IN THE NEW ALBANY SCHOOL DISTRICT, TO STAY IN YOUR HOMES, BY ALL MEANS, YOU SHOULD CONTINUE TO DO THAT. AND THIS DOES NOT AFFECT THE ABILITY TO MODIFY THAT IN THE FUTURE. WELL, YEAH.

AT THIS MOMENT, GO AHEAD. 11 OH SEVEN START WITH. 1107 VIVIAN, MY HOUSE FACE THEIR HOUSES IN FRONT OF ACROSS THE STREET. I THINK MINE COULD BE THE MOST IMPACTED ALONG TO THE FOLKS HERE. I THINK LIGHT POLLUTION, NOISE, THE ROAD, THE TRAFFIC. SO I THINK THE MAIN CONCERN BESIDES ALL THOSE POINTS IS THE SAFETY. SO WE'VE BEEN STRUGGLING, I THINK IN THE PAST ONE YEAR AND A HALF, TWO PEOPLE DIE IN FRONT OF IN OUR YARD, PARTICULARLY WHEN I BOUGHT THIS HOUSE A FEW YEARS AGO, MY FENCE WAS BRAND NEW. NEXT DAY A CAR RAN AND TOOK THE ENTIRE FENCE OFF MY YARD BECAUSE OF THE CURVE. SO WE ARE DEALING WITH A DAILY DANGEROUS FOR THE KIDS BECAUSE THE BUS STOPS THE CAR. THEY DON'T. SO SO THE THE SAFETY FOR THE KIDS ARE VERY RISK RIGHT NOW. WE SEE DAILY AND I OFFER TO THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION BECAUSE I HAD SEVERAL DISCUSSIONS WITH THEM TO SIT AT MY FRONT YARD SPEED LIMIT, COME AND CHECK. THEY SAID 55 NOW IS 50. BUT TO ME THIS IS A JOKE. THIS IS A JOKE. WE ASK LIKE LIKE THE ELECTRONIC RADARS THERE THAT MAYBE COULD HELP PEOPLE TO SLOW DOWN. NOTHING HAPPENED. SO SEVERAL DISCUSSIONS WITH EMAIL BACK AND FORTH WITH ODOT AND I DON'T SEE ANY CHANGE. SO OUR KIDS ARE IN RISK. AND THIS IS REAL. TWO PEOPLE HAVE DIED IN FRONT OF OUR HOUSES AND I DON'T SEE ANYTHING. AND I THINK COMMUNICATION IS ALSO IMPORTANT TODAY. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS NOTICED, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS AP OR THE CITY WORKING THE LIGHT POLES. NOBODY INFORM US THE TRAFFIC. I COULD NOT GET OUT OF MY DRIVEWAY BECAUSE THE TRAFFIC WAS BACK UP. SINCE THE CONSTRUCTION AND WALNUT STREET, BUT NOBODY COMMUNICATE TO US, SO I THINK WE FEEL A LITTLE ABANDONED THERE WITH ALL THIS CHANGE. QUICK QUESTION FOR STAFF. SO THIS WOULD HAVE THE EAST SIDE IN THE VILLAGE OR IN THE CITY CALLED THE VILLAGE FOR A LONG TIME. THE WEST SIDE IS STILL IN THE TOWNSHIP. THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. WHO CONTROLS WHO? WHO WOULD HAVE TRAFFIC JURISDICTION ON THE STATE ROUTE? COUNTY RIGHT NOW? THEY DO RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THE TOWNSHIP ON BOTH SIDES, THE US 62. SO OHIO DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION IS THE AUTHORITY THAT OVERSEES THE INADEQUACIES OF THE ROAD AND THE SOURCE THAT WILL SPEARHEAD THE FUND, NOT ONLY THE DESIGN, BUT THE FUNDING FOR THE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE ROAD. THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY, VERY UNLIKELY THAT THEY WILL BE INVOLVED IN THAT. THEY'RE A PART OF THE DESIGN. THEY MAKE FOLKS AWARE OF WHAT'S HAPPENING. BUT BUT THIS WHOLE PROCESS, AGAIN, FROM THE 161 INTERCHANGE ALL THE WAY UP TO JOHNSTOWN, IS AN ODOT PROJECT. WELL, MY MY COMMENT, MY COMMENT WAS WHO PATROLS BECAUSE IT'S TOWNSHIP LAND AND THE COUNTY GETS IT. YEAH. SO AS PART OF THAT PROCESS WITH THE WITH US WITH SORRY WITH ODOT, WE WILL HAVE TO LIKELY ENTER INTO A RIGHT OF WAY OR ROAD MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT THAT WOULD SPELL OUT ALL THOSE OBLIGATIONS. IT WOULD GO BEYOND JUST PATROLLING. IT WOULD TALK ABOUT WHO MAINTAINS THE ROAD AND PLOWS THE ROAD. SO THAT'S STILL TO BE DETERMINED. TYPICALLY, HOW THAT'S DONE IN THE CITY IS THE CITY MAINTAINS THE STREETS AND THE CITY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR PATROLLING THE ROADS. SO THAT WOULD IRONICALLY,

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SUGGESTION. THESE MEETINGS THAT ARE HELD. AND AGAIN, THERE'S ONE IN THE MIDDLE OF DECEMBER AT THE CHURCH OF THE RESURRECTION. THERE REPRESENTS REPRESENTATIVES THERE FROM ODOT, FROM FRANKLIN COUNTY, FROM MORRISSEY, THAT THAT LEAD THESE MEETINGS WHERE THEY'RE ASKING FOR INPUT FROM PROPERTY OWNERS THAT MAY BE ABLE TO MORE EFFECTIVELY ANSWER SOME OF YOUR QUESTIONS. I'M NOT TRYING TO PUNT IT OFF RIGHT THERE. THERE'S PROPERTY. YEAH, 101 ACRES. AND I'M JUST TRYING TO GIVE YOU SUGGESTIONS OF THE ENTITIES THAT CONTROL THE DESIGN AND THAT ARE ACTIVELY REQUESTING INPUT FROM PROPERTY OWNERS. YOU CAN I DON'T THINK I, MATTHEW MAGUIRE, FOR 6 OR 7 TIMES I REACH OUT TO REBECCA FOR NOTHING. SO WE'LL TAKE THAT.

WE'LL TAKE THAT BACK. ABSOLUTELY. ALL RIGHT. SO WE WERE NEVER INVITED TO ANY DISCUSSIONS OR ANYTHING YOU WERE GRACIOUS ENOUGH TO INVITE US. THANK YOU. KNOW, WHEN I GOT THIS LETTER, IT WAS LIKE, WHERE IS THIS FROM? I WAS PLEASED, AND I WOULD LIKE THE SITE DEVELOPMENT. CURIOUS WHERE THE ENTRANCES ARE GOING TO BE RIGHT NOW. YOU HAVE A ROOFING COMPANY NEXT TO YOU. YOU HAVE THE LANDSCAPING COMPANY ACROSS THE STREET. WE COUPLE SMALL BUSINESSES. SO CURIOUS ON THE SITE PLANS. WHAT? WHAT ENTRANCES AND EXITS BE. YEAH, WE WOULD REALLY LIKE THEM NOT TO BE DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM OUR HOMES IF AT ALL POSSIBLE, CONSIDERING THE ZONING IS PROBABLY GOING TO HAPPEN, BUT LIMITED GENERAL EMPLOYMENT, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? SO THE CENTER MAYBE AS FAR AS ACCESS POINTS, YOU'RE RIGHT.

THERE'S ROCHEFORT, THERE'S THE STORAGE FACILITY, THERE'S A CURVATURE TO THE ROAD. I SUSPECT NOT, I SUSPECT I KNOW THAT THE ULTIMATE DESIGN OF THIS SITE. LONG WINDED ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION. I DON'T KNOW THE LOCATION OF THOSE CURB CUTS. WHETHER IT'S 1 OR 2 OR EVEN THREE WILL BE DETERMINED ALONG WITH THE ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS FOR 62, BASED ON THE ODOT DESIGN THAT NUMBER ONE, NUMBER TWO, WILL THIS BE ONE USER ON THIS 100 ACRE PARCEL? WILL IT BE MULTIPLE USERS? IF IT'S MULTIPLE USERS, EACH USER HAS IS ENTITLED TO THEIR OWN ACCESS.

THE CITY WILL PUSH FOR THEM TO BE COORDINATED, AND YOU HAVE A MINIMUM NUMBER OF CURB CUTS ONTO THAT ROAD. THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION WILL BE DRIVEN BY THE ODOT DESIGN, BUT I DON'T HAVE A SITE PLAN THAT I CAN SHARE WITH YOU NOW THAT TELLS YOU SPECIFICALLY WHERE THAT

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AND AGAIN, I CAN GET YOU THAT SCREENSHOT AND SEND IT TO YOU VIA EMAIL TOMORROW. GOTCHA. YEP.

SO THAT THAT SOUTHERN PORTION OF GOOGLE THAT'S THE MOST THAT'S A MORE ESTABLISHED LANDSCAPING BUFFER. IS THAT SOUTH OR DAWN'S? YES. YEP. SOUTH DAWN'S FARMS. WE'VE ALL BEEN TO DAWN'S, I'M SURE. SO DRIVE SOUTH OF DAWN'S TOWARD MORSE. YES, THAT'S THAT'S A PRETTY SUCCESSFUL LANDSCAPE BUFFER THAT'S BEEN ESTABLISHED ALONG THAT ROADWAY. PART TWO OF YOUR QUESTION WAS, OH, THE LANDSCAPING TREATMENT. SO ALONG. WELL, JUST THE GENERAL LAYOUT.

GOTCHA. WHAT THE NEXT STEP IS SO THAT THEY CAN HAVE INPUT TO A PUBLIC MEETING OR. YES. SO ONCE IF COUNCIL DECIDES TO APPROVE THE REZONING APPLICATION, WHAT THE APPLICANT WILL THEN DO IS MOVE INTO ENGINEERING AND BUILDING PERMITTING. ONCE AN END USER IS IDENTIFIED AND THEY MAKE A PROPOSAL, A PROPOSAL ON THE SITE AGAIN, ONE HAS NOT BEEN MADE. SO IT'S TO BE DETERMINED. THE TIMING OF THAT IS TO BE DETERMINED AT THIS POINT. BUT ONCE THOSE PERMITS ARE SUBMITTED, CITY STAFF, THIS TEAM, KYLIE AND THE REST OF OUR TEAM WILL EVALUATE WHAT'S PROPOSED AGAINST ALL OF THESE ZONING REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE

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THURSDAY, JANUARY 15TH, 930 TO 1130 AT THE CHURCH OF THE RESURRECTION IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DAY. THIS. I'M. YES, MA'AM. I'M I'M JUST LETTING YOU KNOW THIS THIS IS STAKEHOLDER MEETING NUMBER THREE. SO THERE'S NO THERE'S NOT ONE IN DECEMBER. THE NEXT ONE IS IS JANUARY 15TH TO THURSDAY AT 930 IN THE MORNING, 930 IN THE MORNING TILL 1130. IT'S AT THE CHURCH OF THE ANNEX, THE OLDER BUILDING ON THE CHURCH OF THE RESURRECTION SITE. AARON. AARON SHEIDLOWER S E I'D L O W E R WITH OHIO DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION. I'LL ALSO EMAIL YOU GUYS ALL THIS INFORMATION, THE SITE AND THE CONTACT INFORMATION. ODOT SO YOU HAVE IT. AND THEN MY LAST QUESTION WOULD BE WHAT IS THE IMPACT FINANCIAL WELL REAL ESTATE WISE TO OUR PROPERTY BEING RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM US TYPE OF ZONING. I MEAN, THERE ARE NUMEROUS EXAMPLES OF EXISTING HOMES NEAR DEVELOPMENT LIKE THIS IN THE COMMUNITY. I HAVEN'T STUDIED HOW THE VALUES HAVE BEEN IMPACTED. YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT THERE'S ALSO AN ARGUMENT TO BE MADE. YOU PROBABLY SOUNDS LIKE YOU WANT TO STAY IN YOUR HOMES. THERE'S AN ARGUMENT TO BE MADE THAT THE VALUES OF THE PROPERTIES WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IN THE LAST APPLICATION MAY RISE, ESPECIALLY IF YOU WERE TO GROUP TOGETHER AND WANT TO SELL AND MOVE SOMEWHERE ELSE. IF YOU DON'T, THAT'S IF YOU DON'T, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, YOU MENTIONED THE SCREENING AND THINGS AND, YOU KNOW, THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE ALL OVER THE PLACE AND WE'RE COMMITTED TO HERE ARE A MOUND AND LANDSCAPING INSTALLATION RIGHT AWAY WHEN WHEN THE PROPERTY GETS DEVELOPED THAT REQUIRES 75% OPACITY WITHIN TEN WITHIN FIVE YEARS TO A LEVEL OF AT LEAST TEN FEET. SO WHEN YOU GET SOME DISTANCE BETWEEN THE BUILDING ON THIS SITE AND YOUR HOME, THAT CERTAINLY HELPS HELPS BLOCK THE SIGHT LINE THERE. THERE ARE OTHER THINGS LIKE DOWNCAST LIGHTING, LIGHTING FROM A CONTROLLED SOURCE, THINGS THAT WE CAN DO TO TO CONTROL THE LIGHTING. AND WE'LL HAVE TO DEMONSTRATE TO THE CITY STAFF AS PART OF THAT PERMITTING PROCESS THAT WE'RE NOT HAVING EXCESSIVE OFF SITE SPILLAGE OF OUR LIGHTING. AND SO THESE ARE STANDARDS THAT WE WE CONTINUE TO IMPLEMENT HERE AS WE HAVE IN OTHER PLACES. IS THERE ANY ANY IDEAS OF HOW OUR AGENCIES WILL SHRINK? SHOULD BE MIGHT NEED TO GET APPROVALS. TO THE STATES OR WHATEVER. IT'S VERY TIRED NOWADAYS AND HOW THAT IMPACT US IN TERMS OF THE ROAD WIDENS. YEAH, YEAH. HERE AGAIN, UNFORTUNATELY, BECAUSE OF ODOT'S ODOT'S INVOLVEMENT, YOU KNOW, INSTEAD OF THE CITY BEING DIRECTLY INVOLVED AND HAVING ALL OF THOSE ANSWERS, WE JUST DON'T HAVE THEM YET. IF ODOT WERE TO IMPACT YOUR PROPERTY, FOR INSTANCE, BY TAKING LAND, AND THEN YOUR FENCE NEEDS TO BE RELOCATED, THAT WOULD BE PART OF THEIR COMPENSATION TO YOU. SO THEY WOULD BE UNDER UNDER THE STATE CONSTITUTION OR FEDERAL CONSTITUTION. THAT WOULD BE A TAKING OF YOUR LAND. AND THEY WOULD HAVE TO NOT ONLY COMPENSATE YOU FOR THE LAND THEY TAKE, BUT ALSO FOR ANY RESIDUAL PROBLEMS THEY CAUSE, SUCH AS COSTS RELATING TO FENCE RELOCATION. SO YOU WILL GET COMPENSATED FOR THAT. I THINK THE COMPENSATION. WHY WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE LESS LAND, RIGHT.

MIGHT ALSO BE IMPACTED BY THE CRISIS FACING HOMES. RIGHT. SO IT'S NOT ONLY THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY THAT THEY WOULD TAKE FROM YOU, SO TO SPEAK, IF YOU'RE NOT SELLING IT TO THEM,

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WELL, I CAN TELL YOU THAT UNDER STATE LAW AND YOUR CONSENT IS REQUIRED TO CHANGE SCHOOL DISTRICTS. SO THAT CAN'T JUST BE DONE WITHOUT YOUR PERMISSION. SO, YOU KNOW, THE PHYSICAL IMPACTS OR THE PRACTICAL IMPACTS ARE ONE THING. BUT IN TERMS OF THIS OPENING UP SOME DOOR TO YOUR SCHOOL DISTRICT CHANGING AT SOME POINT, THAT CANNOT HAPPEN UNDER STATE LAW COMMISSION. THANK YOU. I DID FORGET TO ADDRESS ONE THING THAT MR. WALLACE ASKED WAS ABOUT THE SCREENING REQUIREMENTS. SO KELLY DID SOME QUICK MATH. SO THERE'S APPROXIMATELY 3000FT OF FRONTAGE. IS THAT RIGHT? KELLY ALONG US 62. AND THE TEXT REQUIRES LANDSCAPING TO BE INSTALLED ALONG THAT ENTIRE FRONTAGE AT A RATE OF EIGHT TREES FOR EVERY 100FT. SO MINIMUM THERE WOULD BE APPROXIMATELY 310 TREES INSTALLED ALONG THAT ENTIRE US 62 CORRIDOR TO HELP SCREEN THESE USES FROM ADJACENT PROPERTIES. IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE APPLICANT IS ALSO REQUIRED TO PROVIDE THAT SCREENING AT A RATE OR THE OPACITY TO THEY NEED TO ACHIEVE 75% OPACITY SCREENING. SO IF THAT OPACITY SCREENING CAN'T BE MET WITH 310 TREES, THEY'VE GOT TO INCREASE IT BY ADDING MORE TREES UNTIL THEY MEET THAT OPACITY REQUIREMENT. AND OUR LANDSCAPE. THE CITY'S LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT DOES REVIEW AND EVALUATE ALL OF THOSE, ALL OF THESE PLANS TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT REQUIREMENT WILL BE MET WITH WHAT'S PROPOSED. AND THE EXAMPLE THAT I'LL SEND TO YOU VIA EMAIL TOMORROW ON BABBITT ROAD THAT DOES ALSO HAVE THAT SIMILAR SETTING FOR OPACITY SCREENING REQUIREMENTS. SO IT'LL BE A PRETTY GOOD GAUGE ON WHAT TO EXPECT AT THIS SITE. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. IS THERE ANY TYPE OF IMPACT TO THE GROUNDWATER WITH THIS TYPE OF ZONING VERSUS RESIDENTIAL? THERE SHOULDN'T BE. SO THE THINGS LIKE CHECKING YOUR WELL FIRST FOR FLOW RATE WAS COVERED. THE REST OF IT. NO, I MEAN OHIO EPA COVERS THE AND THE CLEAN WATER ACT AND ALL THOSE THINGS ARE ALREADY IN PLACE. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. OTHERS I MOVE TO ACCEPT THE STAFF REPORT FROM RELATED DOCUMENTS INTO THE RECORD FOR ZONING CHANGE. 94 2025. DO I YOUR SECOND ON THE DOCUMENTS? SECOND. THE DISCUSSION ON THE DOCUMENTS MOTION. CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE, MR. KIRBY. YES, MISS BRIGGS? YES, MR. SHELL? YES, MR. WALLACE. YES, MR. LAWSON. YES. YES. MOTION PASSES WITH ALL VOTES TO ADMIT THE DOCUMENTS.

THROW YOUR MOTION FOR THE ZONING CHANGE ITSELF. 011. I REMEMBER READING. I FORGOT TO BRING THIS UP. THERE WAS A NOTE IN THE STAFF REPORT THAT SAID THAT ROCKY FORK PANEL HAD TO APPROVE THIS. SHOULD THAT BE A CONDITION OR DO WE KNOW IF THEY APPROVED IT? IT WAS APPROVED EARLIER TODAY. WAS IT OKAY. SO WE DON'T NEED TO PUT IT AS A CONDITION THEN. DO I HEAR A MOTION? NOW? DID WE HAVE ANY CONDITIONS ON THIS ONE? I WAS THE ONE FOR CITY ENGINEERS AS REVISED AND AMENDED. IT WAS NUMBER THREE IN THE ENGINEER'S COMMENTS. THE RIGHT HEARING CORRIDOR AND WETLANDS AREAS ARE GOING TO BE ESTABLISHED, AND THEN STAFF WOULD APPROVE TREES TO BE PROPOSED FOR REMOVAL AFTER THAT'S DONE. I BELIEVE THAT WAS AN AGREEMENT, TOM. SO THAT'S THAT'S THE CHANGE TO NUMBER THREE IN THE ITEM, THREE IN THE IN THE ENGINEER'S REPORT AND ENGINEER'S COMMENTS, SECTION FOUR. DID YOU MAKE THE MOTION, SIR, OR DID I JUST MAKE NO GO FOR IT? NO ONE'S MADE THE MOTION. I READ ANY NAMES DOWN IN MY NOTES. I'LL MOVE FOR APPROVAL OF APPLICATION CC 94 2025. BASED ON THE FINDINGS OF THE STAFF REPORT, ALONG WITH

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YES. MISS. BRIGGS YES, YES. THE MOTION PASSES WITH ALL VOTES TO APPROVE THE ZONING CHANGE WITH THE CONDITIONS IN THE STAFF REPORT AND INCLUDING THE ENGINEERING COMMENTS AS MODIFIED BY THE COMMISSION TONIGHT. OKAY. GOOD LUCK. TAKES US THE ZONING CHANGE. 95 FAITH CHURCH EXPANSION CAREER FROM STAFF, PLEASE. YES. I COULD JUST MAKE IT A LITTLE LOUDER.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ANYBODY? SO THIS REQUEST IS TO REZONE TWO ACRES LOCATED AT 2365 BEACH ROAD FROM AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT TO THE EXISTING INFILL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT ON CURRENTLY KNOWN AS THE FAITH LIFE CHURCH, IPD ZONING DISTRICT. THE PROPOSED REZONING SERVES AS AN EXPANSION TO THE FAITH LIFE CHURCH RELIGIOUS CAMPUS, AND THIS REQUEST IS STRICTLY TO ADD THE PARCEL AT 2365 BEACH ROAD INTO THE ZONING TEXT. NO MODIFICATIONS WILL BE MADE TO THE SITE OR ANY ANY EXISTING ZONING PROVISIONS. SO THIS IS JUST THE SITE ITSELF ALONG BEACH ROAD. AND THEN THIS IS SHOWING THE EXISTING FAITH LIFE CHURCH ZONING DISTRICT. AND THEN THE RED OUTLINE IS WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED TO GET ADDED INTO IT. SO AS SAID BEFORE, THERE IS NO CHANGES BEING PROPOSED TO THE SITE. BUT IT DOES HAVE THE USES OF CHURCHES AND OTHER RELIGIOUS INSTITUTIONS, TEMPORARY RESIDENTIAL LIVING FACILITIES AND PROVISION, OUTREACH CENTER, ACCESSORY USES AND THE RELIGIOUS FACILITY FACILITY SUPPORTING BUILDING AND PLAYGROUND SLASH OPEN SPACE. THE PROPOSED ADDITION TO THE EXISTING IPAD TEXT DOES NOT SEEK TO MAKE THESE CHANGES TO THE ORIGINAL TEXT, AND SHOULD ANY CHANGES BE MADE TO THE SITE IN THE FUTURE, THE APPLICANT WOULD NEED TO SUBMIT A FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR APPROVAL, WHICH WOULD BE BROUGHT BACK IN FRONT OF YOU ALL. AND I'M HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AS WELL AS THE APPLICANT. OKAY. ENGINEERING. OH, PERFECT. YOU GUYS ARE GREAT. APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE. AGAIN. SO THE ENGINEERING COMMENTS ARE AS FOLLOWS. THE APPLICANT IS REQUIRED TO DEDICATE 50FT OF RIGHT OF WAY ALONG THE PARCEL FRONTAGE, WHICH IS ALONG BEACH ROAD AS MEASURED FROM THE EXISTING CENTERLINE. THAT'S AN EXISTING ZONING TEXT REQUIREMENT. AND THEN THIS IS MORE OF A KIND OF A CONDITION TO COVER ANY FUTURE CHANGES. BUT PROVIDING ANY DOCUMENTATION THAT ANY ON SITE RESIDENTIAL WELLS OR WASTEWATER TREATMENT SYSTEMS HAVE BEEN ABANDONED IN ACCORDANCE WITH ALL APPLICABLE ENVIRONMENTAL REGULATIONS. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. CAN WE HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT? LAST TIME? ERIN UNDERHILL, 8000 WALTON PARKWAY IN NEW ALBANY. THIS IS A PRETTY SIMPLE ONE.

THIS THIS PROPERTY IS JUST A PIECE THAT THE THE CHURCH HAS ACQUIRED IN RECENT TIMES, AND WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF ANNEXING IT TO THE CITY THAT THAT SHOULD BE COMPLETED HERE IN THE NEXT 30 TO 45 DAYS. AND SO THIS ZONING IS INTENDED TO CATCH UP TO THAT LEGISLATION THAT WILL BE IN FRONT OF CITY COUNCIL. BUT THE EASIEST WAY TO DO THIS WAS JUST TO ADD IT INTO THE EXISTING PUD. AND SO BASICALLY IT'S A REALLY SHORT TEXT THAT SAYS WE'RE GOING TO COMPLY WITH THE ZONING FOR THE BALANCE OF THE PRIMARY PART OF THE PROPERTY. THIS IS. LIKELY TO BE, IN THE SHORTER TERM, A PARSONAGE OF SOME SORT. AND IN THE LONGER RUN, AS WAS MENTIONED IN THE STAFF REPORT, YOU KNOW, WE'D NEED A FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN IF WE WERE GOING TO DEMOLISH AND DO ANYTHING ELSE WITH THIS PROPERTY. BUT NO, NO PLANS IN

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THE MOTION PASSES WITH ALL VOTES TO ADMIT THE DOCUMENT. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE ZONING ITSELF OR. DO I HEAR A MOTION? I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE ZONING CHANGE 95 DASH 2025.

BASED ON THE FINDINGS AND THE STAFF REPORT WITH THE CONDITIONS LISTED IN THE STAFF REPORT, WHICH I BELIEVE WERE JUST THE TWO FROM ENGINEERING 100%. YEAH A SECOND. I'LL SECOND THAT. DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION TO THE ROLL, PLEASE, MISS BRIGGS. YES, MR. SHELL? YES, MR. KIRBY? YES, MR. WALLACE. YES, MR. LARSON. YES, YES. ALL VOTES TO APPROVE THE

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ALSO, I THINK I'LL SEND OUT ANOTHER REMINDER TO EVERYONE. AND IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND, RSVP JUST SO YOU CAN PLAN ON THE HEAVY APPETIZERS. HOW HEAVY DOES NEED TO BE? WE'D APPRECIATE IT, BUT APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S SERVICE ON THE BOARD'S CONDITIONS. THIS WILL BE A GREAT WAY FOR YOU TO GET TO KNOW EACH OTHER. BOARD MEMBERS AS WELL AS US, GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO ACKNOWLEDGE YOU GUYS IN A MORE FORMAL SETTING OUTSIDE OF THIS, THIS MEETING ROOM. SO LIKE I SAID, WE'LL SEND OUT AN EMAIL REMINDER TO ALL OF OUR BOARDS

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THANKS. IS THIS THE LAST MEETING OF THE YEAR? MY. YEAH, WE GOT ONE MORE, ONE MORE. WE GOT A REGULAR SAVIOR. SAVE YOUR SPEECH FOR. I'LL SAY MY GOODBYES. YES. THAT'S RIGHT.

YOU CAN PRACTICE IT TONIGHT IF YOU WANT. IT'S REJECTED THIS EVENING. YEAH. NO COMMENTS. NO NOTHING FROM ME. THANKS FOR ME. ALL RIGHT. WITH

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