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OKAY. GOOD DEAL. WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER. AND WE CAN DO THAT BY STARTING A ROLL CALL FOR ATTENDANCE. MR. SMITHERS HERE, MR. PAUL HERE, MISS BONEY, MR. CHEVALIER HERE, MR. HARPER HERE. MR. HERSKOWITZ, MR. BRUBAKER HERE, MR. BILLMAN HERE, MR. SELLERS. SIX VOTING MEMBERS PRESENT. WE HAVE A QUORUM. OKAY. FANTASTIC. ALL RIGHT. THE NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS TO REQUEST A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE PREVIOUS HEARING, WHICH I TRUST EVERYONE HAS HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW. MR. CHAIRMAN, THE MINUTES WERE CIRCULATED IN. NOT ENOUGH TIME TO HAVE THEM REVIEWED AND ACTED ON AT THIS MEETING. SO WE STAFF REQUEST THAT WE CONTINUE IT TO THE NEXT MEETING. OKAY. WE CAN DO THAT. DO WE NEED A VOTE FOR THAT OR THAT'S JUST A PROCESS. OKAY, GOOD. ALL RIGHT. SO LET'S SEE. SO THE NEXT ITEM I GUESS WE CAN GO AHEAD AND JUMP RIGHT INTO OUR BUSINESS. LET ME GO AHEAD AND GET MY AGENDA UP. OKAY. SO WE HAVE THE AGENDA. AND I JUST WANT TO DOUBLE CHECK TO SEE IF WE HAVE ANY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS TO THE AGENDA. NONE FROM STAFF. NONE. OKAY. SO WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND
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JUMP INTO OUR CASES THEN. AND WE HAVE TWO. WE'LL START WITH THE COLUMBUS CASES. THE FIRST ONE IS Z 2502 94901 AT CENTRAL COLLEGE ROAD. SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND HEAR FROM THE STAFF ON THE PRESENTATION. OH YEAH. THANK YOU. IT'S BEEN A LITTLE WHILE SINCE I DID THIS, SO I'M BOUNCING AROUND A LITTLE BIT FOR EVERYONE THAT'S CONNECTED FOR IT'S GOING TO PRESENT TONIGHT. WOULD YOU STAND UP PLEASE. AND THAT'S FOR ALL THREE APPLICATIONS. YEAH. FOR ALL THREE. ANYONE THAT'S GOING TO PRESENT AND THE GENTLEMAN IN THE FRONT. NO. WE'RE TAKING AN OATH. DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH, SO HELP YOU GOD? OKAY, FANTASTIC. NOW WE'LL GET TO THE CASE. OKAY. MOSES LATIMORE, CITY OF COLUMBUS. FIRST APPLICATION WE'RE LOOKING AT IS Z 2502 940 901 CENTRAL COLLEGE ROAD, REQUESTING C-2 COMMERCIAL ZONING IN ORDER TO LEGITIMIZE POTENTIAL COMMERCIAL AND OFFICE USES AT THE SITE. LOCATED ON THE SOUTHERN SIDE OF CENTRAL COLLEGE, SOME OF THE FEATURES SUBMITTED TO STAFF WAS BUILT IN 1972. 2388FT■!S, ONE STORY BUILDING WITH AN ADDITION LOCATED TO THE REAR. HERE ARE SOME PHOTOGRAPHS ALSO SUBMITTED. EXISTING PARKING LOT. NO EXTERIOR MODIFICATIONS SO FAR. SUBMITTED. WE HAVE NEWLY SUBMITTED PLANS FOR LANDSCAPING AS WELL THAT OUR APPLICANT WILL GO AHEAD AND PRESENT FOR THE PANEL TODAY. THIS PICTURE IN THE MIDDLE HERE. THAT IS THE ADDITION TO THE REAR CURRENTLY STILL EXISTING AS WELL. THERE'S THE BARN. MORE PHOTOGRAPHS OF THE BARN TO THE REAR. EXTERIOR FEATURES ALSO REMAINING UNCHANGED WITH POTENTIAL LANDSCAPING TO BE PRESENTED. LIKE WE MENTIONED. LOCATED OFF OF CENTRAL COLLEGE NEAR THE CHURCH. PLANNING SUPPORTS THE PROPOSAL AS PRESENTED. ROCKY FORK COURT RECOMMENDS NATURAL AND RURAL CORRIDOR AND NEIGHBORHOOD USES AT THIS LOCATION, WHICH THE PROPOSED USE IS INCONSISTENT WITH. HOWEVER, OUR PLANNING STAFF NOTES THAT THE REQUEST IS TO CONFORM AN EXISTING USE AND IS THEREFORE SUPPORTIVE OF REQUEST AS A MITIGATING FACTOR. I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE OUR APPLICANT. I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION FOR STAFF IF I COULD. THIS WAS PRESENTED AT THE CITY OF COLUMBUS DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION, I THINK IN SEPTEMBER. NOW OUR PURPOSE HERE OBVIOUSLY IS TO EVALUATE AGAINST THE ROCKY FORK BLACK RECORD STANDARDS, NOT NECESSARILY CITY ZONING STANDARDS, BUT I'M JUST CALLING JUST CHECKING TO SEE. HAVE THERE BEEN SIGNIFICANT CHANGES YOU MENTIONED LANDSCAPING, OTHER CHANGES SINCE THE DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION HEARD THIS. WHAT WE HAVE IS WHAT OUR APPLICANTS SUBMITTED TO BE REVIEWED. MR. ADELMAN, WOULD YOU LIKE TO WE HAVE A WE HAVE IMAGES HERE WE CAN SHOW YOU. OKAY. THAT'S FINE. YEAH. I THINK IT IS OVERSTATING WHAT WE'RE PRESENTING TONIGHT. WE ARE PRESENTING AT YOUR REQUEST FROM THE LAST MEETING, YOU REQUESTED IDEAS OF WHAT IT COULD LOOK LIKE. WE'RE NOT PRESENTING THE FINAL PLAN.THAT'S WHAT WAS REQUESTED LAST TIME. AND AGAIN, OUR OUR APPLICANT, OUR APPLICATION IS
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FAIRLY SIMPLE. WE'VE BEEN USING THE SPACE AS AN OFFICE FOR 20 YEARS. WE WANT IT TO CONTINUE TO BE USED AS AN OFFICE. SO WE'RE TRYING TO CHANGE FROM RURAL ZONING TO C2. THIS BODY LAST TIME BROUGHT UP A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS. SO IF YOU GO TO THAT SLIDE I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M GOING TO ADDRESS THEM. BUT AS I HAD NOTES FROM MYSELF FROM LAST TIME, THE QUESTIONS WERE THE CONCERNS WERE BY THIS BODY, WHAT COULD BE BUILT ON THE BACK HALF OF THE PROPERTY IF WE DO THIS ZONING CHANGE? ANOTHER CONCERN WAS, WAS WHEN THE NEW CODE ARRIVES BECAUSE THEY'RE CHANGING THE ENTIRE CODE, HOW DOES THAT AFFECT IT? WHICH IS LARGELY AN UNKNOWN.BUT I THINK WE CAN ADDRESS SOME PROBABILITIES WITH THAT TONIGHT. AND THEN ANOTHER QUESTION, I BELIEVE IT WAS BROUGHT UP BY YOU, BUT I DON'T REMEMBER FOR SURE WAS WHAT COULD HAPPEN IF SOMEBODY DECIDED TO BUY OUR LOT AND THE TWO ON EITHER SIDE OF IT, AND FUTURE DEVELOPMENT THAT WAY. THERE WERE ALSO SOME OTHER REQUESTS FOR INFORMATION. IT WAS SPECIFICALLY SAID THAT YOU WANT GRAPHIC DEPICTIONS OF WHAT THE SCREENING COULD LOOK LIKE, AND YOU SPECIFICALLY SAID, WE DON'T WANT YOU TO PAY PROFESSIONAL, JUST DO IT YOURSELF. SO THAT'S WHAT WE DID TODAY, AND I'LL SHOW YOU THAT IN A SECOND. AND ALSO GRAPHIC REPRESENTATION OF WHAT COULD BE BUILT ACCORDING TO ZONING ON THE BACK HALF OF THE PROPERTY. OKAY. THERE'S ALSO A COUPLE OTHER QUESTIONS AS I WAS RESEARCHING THIS, AND I THINK I'M GOING TO ADDRESS WITH YOU TONIGHT IS IF IT REMAINS RURAL, WHAT COULD IT BE SOLD FOR WITHOUT RFB PANEL APPROVAL? SO AND HOW MIGHT RURAL ZONING BE TREATED IN THE CITYWIDE NEW ZONING MAPS AS WELL? SO LET'S GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. THIS IS BASICALLY THE PROPERTY APPROXIMATELY 464FT NORTH SOUTH, 135FT EAST TO WEST FROM THE BACK OF THE BARN. IT IS ABOUT 191FT TO THE BACK EDGE OF THE PROPERTY. AND THE SETBACK. SOMEBODY BROUGHT UP A QUESTION ABOUT THE SETBACK. THE SETBACK IS 100FT WELL OVER WHAT IS NEEDED. SO WE'RE GOOD THERE. NEXT. NEXT SLIDE. SO PROPERTY SCREENING OFFSET THE TREES AND SHRUBS. ACCORDING TO THE CODE IF IT'S SCREENED BY TREES AND SHRUBS NEED TO BE A MINIMUM OF THREE FEET FROM THE PROPERTY AND NO MORE THAN 20FT FROM THE PROPERTY. SO WE'RE ATTEMPTING WITH THAT ORANGE LINE. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THAT ONE RIGHT THERE. THAT ORANGE BOX KIND OF REPRESENTS THE AREA WHERE SCREENING COULD GO IN IF IT WAS SHRUBBERY. IT CAN ALSO BE A SIX FOOT PRIVACY FENCE WHICH CAN GO RIGHT ON THE LOT. SO IF WE LOOK AT THE NEXT SLIDE, THAT'S WHAT A SIX FOOT PRIVACY FENCE LOOKS LIKE WITH SOMEBODY ABOUT MY HEIGHT TAKING A PICTURE FROM THE MIDDLE OF THE PROPERTY, YOU SEE A LITTLE SHADOW THERE.
THAT'S ME. I'M ABOUT SIX FOOT. I BASICALLY COVERED MYSELF UP TO GIVE YOU A SIX FOOT REPRESENTATION. SO WHILE IT'S NONPROFESSIONAL, IT'S PRETTY CLOSE TO WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE. THE NEXT SLIDE, THE SCREENINGS MUST HAVE 75% OPACITY ACCORDING TO THE SCREENING CODE. SO THAT'S APPROXIMATELY 75% OPACITY FOR ONE EXAMPLE. OR ON THE NEXT SLIDE, IF YOU PUT UP EVERGREENS, THAT WOULD BE THE 75% OPACITY COVERAGE BLOCKING VIEW OF THE PROPERTY FROM THE PARKING LOT OR FROM THE FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD AROUND IT. SO LET'S GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. SO PROPERTY DIMENSIONS AFTER OFFSETS FOR THE LOT LINE SCREENING, ASSUMING THERE'S REQUIRED ADDITIONAL PAYMENT FOR THE BACK OF THE BARN GARAGE DOORS. THE BASED ON THE CODE, THE ESTIMATED MAX BUILDING SIZE THAT IF SOMEBODY WERE TO BUILD ON THE BACK WOULD BE NO MORE THAN 6000FT■!S. AND I THINK THAS GENEROUS. SO THINK OF THINK OF A BUILDING THAT LOOKS A LOT LIKE THE HOUSES NEXT TO IT, JUST A LITTLE BIT BIGGER SITTING THERE. SO I THINK ONE CONSIDERATION FOR US IS IF THE LOT WERE DIVIDED AND SOLD AS RURAL, YOU COULD PROBABLY BUILD ANOTHER HOUSE BACK THERE. HOW IS THAT GOING TO BE DIFFERENT THAN A NICE OFFICE BUILDING THAT MIGHT HAVE A BRICK FACADE, OR IT WOULD LOOK VERY SIMILAR TO THE HOUSES IN GENERAL AROUND IT. ANYWAY, IT REQUIRES ONE PARKING SPOT FOR 450FT■!S. THAT MEANS FOR 6000FT■!S, YOU'D NEED 8200FT■!S OF PARKING LOT. SO THAT'S HOW WE CAME UP WITH THE MAX SIZE, BECAUSE WHEN YOU START MEASURING THAT DISTANCE AND PUTTING ALL THOSE THINGS IN, AND ASSUMING I'VE NEVER SEEN A BUILDING WHERE THEY DIDN'T HAVE SOME REQUIREMENTS FOR PARKING LOT OR FOR A FEW TREES, OR FOR A LITTLE BIT OF SETBACK OR FOR UTILITIES. AND SO IF YOU TRY TO BRING THAT INTO ACCOUNT, THAT'S HOW WE GET TO THE MAX SIZE OF 6000FT■!S. NOW, THAT SAID, THE BUYERS WERE LOOKING AT ARE NOT INTENDING TO DO THAT. THE BUYERS WERE LOOKING AT, FROM OUR KNOWLEDGE ARE NOT INTENDING TO CHANGE ANYTHING ON THE PROPERTY. SO THAT'S THE REASON OUR PROPOSAL DOESN'T COME WITH A FORMAL SITE PLAN, IS BECAUSE THE CITY SAID THERE IS NO PLAN TO IMPROVE IT, SO WE DON'T NEED TO SUBMIT THAT. BUT I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN THAT
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JUST BECAUSE THEY BUY IT DOESN'T MEAN IT COULDN'T CHANGE IN THE FUTURE. SO I THINK THE QUESTIONS YOU ASKED ARE VERY GOOD ON THAT, AND I APPRECIATE THAT. IF THE ZONING DOESN'T CHANGE, WHAT CAN A BUYER DO? LET'S LOOK AT THE NEXT ONE. IS IT THERE? YEAH. WHAT CAN A BUYER DO WITHOUT RFP PANEL APPROVAL? WELL, THEY CAN DO A RESIDENTIAL HOME BASED BUSINESS.SO THINK WOOD SHOP OR CONSTRUCTION POTENTIAL LOUD NOISES. RIGHT. YOU COULD HAVE A LANDSCAPE COMPANY WHICH VERY SIMILAR TO SOME PLACES NEARBY US WITH MORE VEHICLES AND MORE EQUIPMENT. YOU COULD HAVE A HOME BASED AUTOMOTIVE REPAIR, AUTOMOTIVE REPAIR OR COLLECTOR SHOP OR SOME SORT OF THAT BUSINESS USING THE BARN. SO THAT'S ALREADY THAT WOULD ALREADY BE ALLOWED ON THIS PROPERTY WITHOUT THIS BODY'S APPROVAL. IT IS CURRENTLY A RURAL AGRICULTURAL, WHICH ALSO MEANS IT COULD BE A VEGETABLE OR FRUIT FARMERS MARKET, OR WITHOUT THIS BODY'S APPROVAL, THEY COULD CHOOSE TO BUILD A LARGE GREENHOUSE ON THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY AS WELL, WHICH WOULD NOT BE AS NICE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS A OFFICE BUILDING. THE CODE ON RURAL ALSO SENDS YOU TO THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT FOR WHAT COULD BE ALLOWED IN. THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT SAYS WITHOUT ANY ADDITIONAL PERMIT, ANYBODY ON THIS PROPERTY RIGHT NOW COULD HAVE UP TO 500FT■!S ALLOWED FOR COMPOSTING. SO THINK OF FROM ME TO YOU AND ABOUT THAT WIDE, FIVE FEET HIGH OF ROTTING STUFF IS ALLOWED RIGHT NOW ON THE PROPERTY IF SOMEBODY WANTS IT. SO THAT'S WHAT'S ALLOWED NOW. AND SO THIS GETS MORE INTO THE WHAT IFS, BECAUSE THE WHAT IFS WERE TALKED ABOUT A LOT LAST TIME. WHAT COULD THIS HAVE.
WHAT COULD IF WE APPROVED THIS AS C-2, WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE MAP GETS CHANGED IN 2020, 2027, 2028? I WOULD SUGGEST TO YOU THAT I THINK IT'S HIGHLY LIKELY THAT RURAL WILL NO LONGER BE THE DESIGNATION, ESPECIALLY SINCE THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY CLASSIFIED AS NON-CONFORMING RURAL. NOW, I WAS INFORMED BY THE CITY THAT NON-CONFORMING DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE NEED TO REQUIRE ANY CHANGE. IT'S OKAY, WE WERE APPROVED FOR THAT. BUT NORMALLY RURAL REQUIRES A MINIMUM OF FIVE ACRES AND WE DON'T HAVE FIVE ACRES OR ONE AND A HALF ACRES. SO I DOUBT THAT THE CITY IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO ALLOW RURAL. SO IF WE LEAVE IT RURAL DON'T APPROVE THIS CHANGE. IT'S CERTAINLY GOING TO CHANGE. AND I DON'T THINK IT NECESSARILY HAS A LOT OF INFLUENCE OVER WHAT IT COULD BE CHANGED. I WOULD SUGGEST TO YOU THAT IF WE CHANGE IT TO C-2 IN THE CITY SEES THAT AND ALSO LOOKS DOWN THE STREET 150FT ACROSS THE ROAD, AND SEES THAT THAT BUILDING IS ALSO C-2, THAT THERE'S A LIKELIHOOD THAT THEY'RE GOING TO DECIDE. THIS PART OF THE MAP RIGHT HERE SHOULD BE SOMETHING CONSISTENT, AND WE'RE GOING TO PROTECT THAT AREA TO BE THAT KIND OF A PROPERTY. IF IT'S RURAL. ONE OF THE BIG FEARS I THINK I HEARD LAST TIME WAS, WHAT IF SOMEBODY BUYS ALL THREE PROPERTIES AROUND US AND DECIDES TO PUT A BUNCH OF, YOU KNOW, 50 FOOT TALL APARTMENT BUILDINGS IN THERE? YOU KNOW, C-2 PREVENTS THAT, ESPECIALLY WITH THE AGE 35 THAT WE'RE ASKING. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO BE MORE THAN TWO STOREYS AT THE MOST. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BUILD A BUILDING THAT WILL LOOK NOT ALL THAT DISSIMILAR FROM THE HOUSES AROUND IT. IT'LL BE PARKING LOT, AND IT'LL BE NOT BUSY IN THE EVENINGS. IT'LL PROBABLY BE QUIET IN THE EVENINGS. I THINK THIS IS A VERY GOOD THING. AND I THINK IF THIS BOARD APPROVES THAT, AT LEAST THERE'S A SHOT, THAT THAT APPROVAL WILL INFLUENCE THE MAP IN THE FUTURE BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY THERE. ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY. WE'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS FROM THE PANEL. BUT BEFORE WE DO A QUICK QUESTION FOR CLARIFICATION, IS THIS A CONCEPTUAL REVIEW OR A FINAL REVIEW BECAUSE IT ON THE AGENDA, IT DOESN'T SAY, ARE YOU LOOKING FOR A VOTE? OKAY. SORRY. WHAT WE CAN WE CAN VOTE TODAY UNLESS YOU LIKE THE TABLE OKAY. I'M ASSUMING THAT WE'RE VOTING WAS WE COULD VOTE YES. YEAH OKAY.
THAT WAS MY ASSUMPTION. SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS. I'M GOING TO MY FIRST QUESTION IS I WASN'T HERE FOR THE INITIAL PRESENTATION. HOW HOW IS IT THAT IT'S AND AGAIN I'M I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. BUT HOW IS IT BEING USED FOR OFFICE SPACE NOW? IT HAS BEEN THE CHURCH OFFICES SINCE 2004 WHEN THE CHURCH BOUGHT THAT. RIGHT. AND BUT IT'S ZONED RURAL, IT'S USED AND IT'S THE PARKING LOT HAS BEEN PUT IN AND IT'S USED AS OFFICE. YEAH. BECAUSE RURAL ALLOWS FOR CHURCHES. OKAY. THANK YOU. YES. RURAL WOULD ALLOW FOR CHURCHES. IT WOULD ALLOW FOR GOVERNMENT BUILDINGS, LIBRARIES, THINGS OF THAT NATURE WITHOUT A CHANGE. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. YEAH. YES. QUESTION I HAVE YOU MENTIONED THAT PROPERTY ACROSS. WAS IT ACROSS THE ROAD AND DOWN A LITTLE WAYS. YES. YES. WHAT WHAT IS THAT BEING USED FOR NOW.
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WELL THEY WENT MY UNDERSTANDING FROM I LOOKED IT UP, THEY WENT FOR C2 AND THEN THEY USED IT IN WAYS THAT WAS INCONSISTENT WITH C2 AND GOT SHUT DOWN. SO THEY WERE USING IT FOR AN EVENT CENTER, CREATING A LOT OF NOISE AT NIGHTS. THEY WERE USING IT FOR AN AIRBNB, WHICH IS NOT WITHIN THE REALM OF C2. SO THEY THEY DID SUCCESSFULLY GET IT, CHANGED THE C2, AND THEN THEIR BUSINESS GOT SHUT DOWN BECAUSE THEY WERE USING IT, NOT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE ZONING THAT THEY HAD. AT LEAST THAT'S WHAT I HAD BEEN TOLD. I DON'T KNOW THAT FOR SURE, BUT I KNOW THEY'RE NOT DOING IT ANYMORE. SO I KNOW SOMETHING HAPPENED. WHEN YOU OPEN THIS UP, YOU MENTIONED ABOUT THE WHAT WE'D ASKED YOU TO DO, THE THE SCREENING OF THE BACK, POTENTIALLY A FENCE. AND THEN YOU SAID, BUT YOU DON'T REALLY HAVE TO DO THAT IF YOU DON'T MAKE ANY CHANGES. NO, NO, NO, C2 PERIOD WOULD REQUIRE THAT SCREENING TO GO UP. SO THE NEW BUYER WOULD BE REQUIRED WITHIN. I BELIEVE IT WAS NINE MONTHS TO CONSTRUCT THE SCREENING. AND THAT SCREENING CAN EITHER BE A SIX FOOT FENCE OR THEY CAN PUT FOLIAGE IN THAT IS GUARANTEED OR REASONABLY GUARANTEED TO GIVE THE 75% SCREENING WITHIN FIVE YEARS. SO THEY MIGHT PLANT SMALLER TREES THAT GROW INTO WHAT IS REQUIRED, IS THE POINT THERE. YOU MENTIONED THE TWO HOMEOWNERS THAT THAT BUTT UP AGAINST US WOULD PROBABLY PREFER THE FENCE AND THE TREES BEHIND IT. I'M JUST THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE. I TALKED TO OUR OUR REP WHO'S BEEN SHEPHERDING US THROUGH THIS BRANDON AT THE CITY, AND HE SAID THAT HE CHECKED INTO IT. HE SAID THAT THEY ACTUALLY IF YOU LOOK AT THE PROPERTY, THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE SCREENING ALL THE WAY UP TO THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE, ALL THE WAY AROUND THE BACK, ALL THE WAY AROUND ALL SIDES.THERE'D HAVE TO BE A FENCE OR TREES PUT UP TO SCREEN IT FROM THE NEIGHBOR NEIGHBORING RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES. THE QUESTION I HAD FOR HIM THAT CLARIFIED THAT WAS AND SOMEBODY BROUGHT THIS UP LAST TIME, I DON'T REMEMBER IF IT WAS MOSIER OR SOMEBODY ELSE BROUGHT UP.
DOES THAT MEAN IT'S ONLY SCREENED FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD, OR IS IT WHICH OR IS IT SCREENED FROM ALL OF THEM? AND IT IS SCREENED FROM ALL RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES AROUND IT. OKAY. OKAY. ANOTHER QUESTION I HAVE, IF THEY WERE TO USE PUT THE BUILDING ON THE BACK THERE. WHAT IS THE DISTANCE BETWEEN THE BUILDING AND THE LOT LINE ON THE EAST SIDE THERE WHERE YOU HAVE THAT FIRST HOUSE? YEAH, BECAUSE THAT LOOKS REALLY CLOSE TO THE PROPERTY LINE. YEAH. MIKE, THAT WAS REALLY CONFUSING TO ME. SO I ACTUALLY CALLED THE CITY BECAUSE THE CITY CODE SAYS YOU CAN BUILD RIGHT UP TO THE EDGE OF THE LOT LINE, UNLESS THERE'S A UTILITY EASEMENT. BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU'D BUILD UP TO THE EDGE OF THE LOT LINE AND COMBINE THE SEEMINGLY CONFLICTING CODE THAT SAYS YOU HAVE TO HAVE SCREENING. AND THE CODE DIDN'T SAY YOU DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING IN IT THAT I COULD FIND REQUIRING SIDEWALKS OR GREEN SPACE. BUT AGAIN, IN PRACTICALITY, I'VE NEVER SEEN A BUILDING PUT IN WHERE PART OF THE PERMITTING PROCESS DIDN'T REQUIRE THAT. SO IT SEEMS LIKE THE CODE TO ME WAS RATHER INADEQUATE IN THAT. AND I WAS WRESTLED WITH IT, CALLED THE CITY AND SAID, WHAT'S UP WITH THIS? AND THEY SAID, WELL, TECHNICALLY IT'S THIS. BUT IN PRACTICE WHEN THEY GO FOR A PERMIT, THEY'RE GOING TO BE REQUIRED TO DO SOME OF THIS GREEN STUFF, GREEN SPACE STUFF AND OTHER THINGS AND SETBACKS. DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE SETBACK IS ON BETWEEN THE PROPERTY LINE AND THE HOUSE TO THE EAST THERE? I DON'T KNOW FOR SURE IF I WERE GUESSING. LOOKING BACK AT THE NUMBERS 30FT, I WOULD GUESS IT'S ON THE RIGHT. IT'S PROBABLY ABOUT 40 TO 50FT. NO, SORRY. THAT'S HOW LONG. HOW LONG WOULD THAT HOW LONG WOULD THAT THAT'LL BE? WELL, IT'LL BE A 2020 FIVE FOOT PARKING SPOT. RIGHT. AND THEN ANOTHER 20, 20FT, 20 OR SO FEET ACROSS. SO YEAH, PROBABLY AROUND 50FT. OKAY, MAYBE I'M NOT MAKING MYSELF CLEAR ON THE BACK PART OF THE LOT. THE HOUSE THERE. THAT'S TO THE EAST, YOU MEAN. YEAH. UP THERE THAT WHAT'S THE WHAT'S THE CLEARANCE BETWEEN THEIR HOUSE AND THE PROPERTY LINE? THE PROPERTY LINE? NOT MUCH, NOT A LOT. MAYBE 15FT. 10 TO 15FT SOMETHING SOMEWHERE IN THAT. OKAY. BECAUSE I KNOW IN SOME DEVELOPMENTS AND THAT IS PART OF A DEVELOPMENT. IT'S ONLY LIKE MAYBE 10 OR 12FT BETWEEN HOUSES. YEAH. SO IF THEY BUILT THAT AND IT ALMOST LOOKS LIKE THEY WERE EXPECTING THAT, THEY COULD POSSIBLY PUT A COUPLE MORE HOUSES ON THEIR LOOP THERE IF THEY WERE THINKING ABOUT THAT TYPE OF A STRUCTURE THERE SOMEDAY, I THINK THEY WOULD'VE BEEN ABLE
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TO BUILD THE BACK HALF OF OUR LOT. THERE WOULD BE PROBABLY TWO HOUSES THERE RIGHT NOW.YEAH, IF THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO BUY THE BACK HALF OF OUR LOT. YEAH. AGAIN, THAT GOES TO MY POINT THOUGH, THE YOU COULD VISUALIZE TWO HOUSES THERE OF ABOUT 5000FT■!S, OR YOU COULD VISUALIZE AN OFFICE BETWEEN 5 AND 7000, FIVE AND 6000FT. I DON'T THINK VISUALLY IT'S GOING TO BE THAT MUCH DIFFERENT. AND IT APPEARS THAT SIDEWALK THAT'S IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BOTH FROM THE SIDEWALKS, ARE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. YES, BUT IT WON'T BE WHERE THIS PROPERTY IS. NO STOPS, NO, AND STARTS AGAIN. NO. I DON'T THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE ANY ANY SIDEWALK GOING ACROSS THERE. WE INQUIRED OF THE CITY, IF YOU LOOK, IF YOU IF THE PICTURE WERE TO GO THIS WAY A LITTLE BIT, YOU WOULD SEE A NICE BIG PLAYGROUND THAT WE HAVE AND WE HAVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD USING IT ALL THE TIME. AND WE TALKED ABOUT, CAN WE EXTEND THE SIDEWALK AND PUT A PATH IN THE CITY SAID NO. SO I DON'T THINK YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE ANY SIDEWALKS COMING DOWN THERE. MIKE. SO THIS IS A OBVIOUSLY A COLUMBUS APPLICATION. IS THE LAND CURRENTLY BEING ANNEXED INTO COLUMBUS? IS IT IT'S ALREADY ANNEXED. WAS ANNEXED WHEN WE WHEN IT WAS I BELIEVE IT WAS ANNEXED IN 2004 WHEN WE BOUGHT IT. OKAY. THAT'S BEFORE MY TIME.
I CAME IN 2009, BUT THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING. BUT THE PROPERTIES ON BOTH SIDES, EAST AND WEST ARE. THERE PLAIN TOWNSHIPS. DID YOU CONFIRM THAT LAST TIME? I THOUGHT, YEAH, I'M UNSURE WHICH TOWNSHIP, BUT THEY'RE NOT COLUMBUS. YEAH, THEY'RE NOT COLUMBUS SINCE TOWNSHIP. YEAH. INTERESTING. WHICH ALSO GETS BACK TO THE THREE LOT THING THAT WOULD COME BACK TO THAT CONCERN BY THE PANEL. WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF SOMEBODY BOUGHT ALL THREE LOTS.
WELL, THEY'D HAVE TO COME BACK TO YOUR PANEL FOR APPROVAL. THEY'D HAVE TO GO THROUGH ZONING CHANGES. THEY'D HAVE TO GO THROUGH ANNEXING INTO THE CITY. THERE'D BE A LOT OF PROCESSES. SO APPROVING OUR C2 APPLICATION DOES NOT AFFECT OR UNDERMINE THE FACT THAT IF SOMETHING LIKE THAT CONCERN CAME UP, THEY WOULD STILL HAVE TO COME BACK TO YOU. HOW FAR DOWN THE STREET IS THE OTHER C2 PROPERTY? IT IS PROBABLY 150FT TO THE RIGHT, JUST OFF THE PICTURE AND ACROSS WHERE THEIR PROPERTY STARTS. DO YOU REMEMBER? I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE BEEN OUT THERE. DO YOU REMEMBER THAT REALLY OLD BRICK HISTORIC BUILDING THAT NOBODY WOULD BUY FOR YEARS? THAT THAT'S THAT'S WHAT SOMEBODY BOUGHT AND RENOVATED? YEAH.
RESTAURANT A FEW YEARS BACK. YEAH, YEAH. AGAIN, THAT'S THE REASON WHY I THINK IF THE I THINK IF WE APPROVE THIS AND THERE ARE TWO C2 PROPERTIES, THERE'S A HIGHER LIKELIHOOD WHEN THE NEW MAPS ARE DRAWN THAT IT WILL GO THAT WAY IF IT'S LEFT RURAL, LIKE THE TWO PROPERTIES ON EITHER SIDE OF IT, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO LEAVE A RURAL. THEY'RE JUST GOING TO PICK WHAT THEY WANT IT TO BE. RIGHT? OKAY. ANY ANY MORE QUESTIONS? AND IF NOT, DO WE WANT TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR APPROVAL? JUST ONE QUICK QUESTION. IF I COULD, ONE OF THE ITEMS IN THE EVALUATION WHICH YOU DID NOT MEET WAS THAT YOU WERE NOT PLANNING TO INSTALL A SIDEWALK ALONG CENTRAL COLLEGE, IS THAT RIGHT? OR YOUR CLIENT IS NOT? WE'RE NOT REQUIRED. WE DO NOT HAVE A SIDEWALK. I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THAT WILL LAST, BECAUSE I KNOW THE CURRENT CONSTRUCTION OUT THERE IS BRINGING A SIDEWALK PATH ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE EAST END OF OUR LARGER PROPERTY THERE, RIGHT? BUT NO FURTHER RIGHT NOW. SO I GUESS THAT WAS MY QUESTION FOR YOU AND OR STAFF. WHAT WOULD HAPPEN BASICALLY, IF THERE IS NO SIDEWALK THERE AND THERE'S SIDEWALK COMING ON EITHER SIDE OF THIS LOT, HOW WOULD THAT BE ADDRESSED? HOW WOULD THAT BE? SORRY? HOW WILL THAT BE ADDRESSED? IN OTHER WORDS, IF THERE'S A GAP IN THE SIDEWALK BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT A PASS NOT TO DO IT, I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW. THE CODE IS GOING TO REQUIRE IT TO BE ADDRESSED. SO THE MAIN, THE MAIN THING FOR US IS AN OFFICE IS DO WE HAVE ENOUGH PARKING SPOTS OFF STREET, AND WE DO HAVE ENOUGH PARKING SPOTS OFF STREET TO ACCOMMODATE TO ACCOMMODATE THE SPACE? OKAY. YEAH. ARE YOU REFERRING TO THE ADJOINING PROPERTIES WHERE IT WOULD MEET THE SIDEWALK POTENTIAL SIDEWALK WOULD MEET THE PROPERTY? YES. IF IF THIS PROPERTY DOES NOT CONSTRUCT SIDEWALK AS WOULD OTHERWISE NORMALLY BE REQUIRED IN THE CITY. AGAIN, THERE WILL BE A GAP THERE, I'M ASSUMING. IS THAT SOMETHING THE CITY WOULD ADDRESS THEN? I BELIEVE IT'S SOMETHING THE CITY WOULD ADDRESS. BUT IT'S NOT THE SIDEWALK ALONG HARLEM ROAD. POTENTIAL SIDEWALK. WE WOULDN'T
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KNOW FOR SURE UNTIL AFTER THE TWO PROPERTIES ARE ANNEXED BY CODE IS NOT REQUIRED BY LAND USE. IT IS OR IT'S RECOMMENDED. BUT THE GAP WOULD EXIST UNTIL FURTHER EVALUATION FROM PUBLIC SERVICE. SORRY, MY EARS ARE NOT REAL GOOD, SO I HEARD A LITTLE BIT OF AN ECHO THERE. IF I HEARD YOU RIGHT, YOU'RE SAYING THE CITY WOULD NOT DO ANYTHING BECAUSE THEY CAN'T BE CONTIGUOUS ANYWAY, BECAUSE THE TWO PROPERTIES ON EITHER SIDE ARE NOT PART OF THE CITY YET.THAT'S IN OUR DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SERVICE. I'M NOT SURE WHAT FACTORS THEY NECESSARILY LOOK AT, BUT UPON IMMEDIATE DEVELOPMENT IT WOULD NOT HAVE. THE GAP WOULD EXIST IF THE OTHER TWO WERE BUILT WITH SIDEWALKS. IT COULD POTENTIALLY. HERE'S WHAT I DO KNOW. THE C2 PROPERTY, JUST DOWN TO THE RIGHT OF US THAT WE REFERENCED EARLIER. WHEN THEY WENT C2, THEY WERE NOT REQUIRED TO PUT SIDEWALK IN, OKAY. THEY WERE JUST REQUIRED TO HAVE ADEQUATE OFF STREET PARKING. GOTCHA. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. OKAY. ARE WE READY FOR A MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. OKAY. AND A SECOND. I'LL SECOND PAUL. OKAY. MR. CHEVALIER? YES. MR. PAUL? YES, MR. BRUBAKER? YES. MR. HERSKOWITZ. YES. MR. BILLMAN. YES, MR. SMITHERS. YES, MR. HARPER. YES. THE AYES HAVE THE MOTION PASSES WITH ALL VOTES TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION. THANK YOU. PROCESS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. OUR NEXT CASE IS Z 2505 9656955 AT 6999 HARLEM ROAD. I HOPE I GOT ALL THOSE NUMBERS RIGHT. THE WAY I READ THAT, MR. CHAIR, THERE IS ACTUALLY A MINOR ERROR IN THE AGENDA. IT'S ACTUALLY Z 2505 40549 OKAY. 054 OKAY. AND THEN A CONCURRENT COUNCIL VARIANCE, AS I THINK YOU MENTIONED. RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU I APPRECIATE THAT OKAY. SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND PRESENT THIS ONE. LIKE I MENTIONED THE COUNCIL VARIANCE IS ATTACHED TO THIS APPLICATION AS WELL. 6955 HARLEM ROAD WEST OF HARLEM ROAD NORTH OF CENTRAL COLLEGE. DESIGNATED VILLAGE RESIDENTIAL WAS PERMITTED LAND USE. BEING SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING APARTMENT RESIDENTIAL ONE ZONING TO BE REZONED FROM THE CURRENT LM LIMITED MANUFACTURING ZONE. HERE WE HAVE THE SITE. WE HAVE THE SITE PLAN HERE, 84 APARTMENT UNITS ARE BEING PROPOSED. PERMITTED DENSITY IS ONE DWELLING UNIT PER ACRE. TWO WITH THE BONUS, THE PROPOSED DENSITY COMES OUT TO 19.1. HERE ARE SOME ELEVATION DRAWINGS RELATED TO THE PROPOSAL, AS WELL AS WELL AS THE LIST OF MATERIALS. THE APPLICANT ALSO SUBMITTED A MATERIALS LIST AND A LIGHTING PLAN. AS FAR AS THE RECENT APPLICATION. THIS SITE, THIS APPLICATION, THIS SITE, THIS AREA DID COME TO THE PANEL EARLIER. I BELIEVE IT'S LATE IN 2024. THE FIRST PHASE, WHICH WAS APPROVED, THE SELF-STORAGE UNIT DID NOT GO THROUGH. SO THIS IS THE FIRST PHASE, THE EXISTING AT THE BOTTOM HERE. AND THEN THE PROPOSAL WILL BE HERE ON. ANOTHER LOOK AT THE PHASES HERE. SO PHASE ONE CAME THROUGH BEFORE THIS WAS ORIGINALLY THE PREMIER STORAGE.
AND THIS IS CURRENTLY BEING PROPOSED NOW. AND THEN. THESE ARE DRAWINGS THAT PREVIOUSLY CAME TO BEFORE THE PANEL OF THE FIRST PHASE FOR CONTEXT. AND RENDERINGS THAT WERE ALSO SUBMITTED AS PART OF THAT APPLICATION. WITH THE APPLICATION, THE APPLICANT DID SUBMIT A LIGHTING PLAN AND UPDATED SOME INFORMATION TO IMPROVE THEIR SCORECARD. THE COLUMBUS PLANNING STAFF DOES SUPPORT THE PROPOSAL AS AS PRESENTED, THE ROCKY FORK LAKE ACCORD RECOMMENDS VILLAGE RESIDENTIAL USES. I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE MR. HODGE APPROACH, PLEASE. GOOD AFTERNOON. THANK YOU. YEAH. SO YOU'LL RECALL WE WERE HERE. I THINK IT WAS LAST MONTH. HAD SOME ISSUES WITH THE WITH THE MEETING NOTICE. SO WE'RE WE'RE BACK HERE THIS EVENING HOPING FOR A VOTE. WE ACTUALLY WERE ABLE TO USE THE INTERVENING TIME OVER THE LAST MONTH TO REVIEW THE PREVIOUS SCORECARD, PROVIDE SOME SUPPLEMENTAL INFORMATION, SIGNIFICANTLY IMPROVE OUR SCORE. I THINK IF YOU LOOK AT THE SCORECARD, WE WERE WE WERE
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DOCKED FOR A FEW THINGS, INCLUDING PRODUCT TYPE, BUILDING HEIGHT. AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE PRODUCT TYPE OF THE BUILDING HEIGHT, ESPECIALLY WITH REFERENCE TO THE SISTER DEVELOPMENTS TO THIS THAT HAVE HAPPENED BOTH TO THE WEST AND TO THE SOUTH, YOU'LL SEE THAT WE ARE FILLING IN AN ADJACENT PIECE OF THIS THAT IS PERFECTLY CONSISTENT WITH WHAT PREVIOUSLY CAME THROUGH THE PROCESS AND WAS APPROVED. YOU SEE THE PREMIER STORAGE UP THERE THAT Z24 059 THAT DID COME FULLY THROUGH THE PROCESS. I REVIEWED THAT RECORD. IT WAS A SPLIT VOTE COMING OUT OF THE ACCORD. SO AT LEAST SOME OF YOU DID NOT SUPPORT THAT STORAGE USE THERE.IT WENT ON AND WAS ULTIMATELY APPROVED BY COLUMBUS CITY COUNCIL. I'M NOT SURE THE REASONS BEHIND IT, BUT THAT PROJECT IS NOT GOING TO GO FORWARD BECAUSE MY CLIENT NOW HAS A CONTRACT ON THE PROPERTY CONTINGENT UPON THIS REZONING PROCESS. PRETTY THOROUGH ANALYSIS HERE. YOU KNOW, FULL, FULL STAFF REPORT, NOT JUST MOSEY, BUT EVERYONE ELSE AT THE CITY FULLY SUPPORTIVE. WE DID HAVE TO MISS THE PREVIOUS DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION MEETING AND TABLE, AND WE ARE ON COURSE NOW TO GET TO THE DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION NEXT MONTH AND THEN HOPEFULLY ON TO CITY COUNCIL DURING THE MONTH OF FEBRUARY. A PICTURE'S WORTH A THOUSAND WORDS. THERE ARE 4 OR 5 PICTURES UP THERE. SO 4 OR 5000 WORDS I'LL, I'LL SAVE I'LL SPARE YOU ANY ADDITIONAL ELABORATION, BUT CERTAINLY CAN FIELD SOME QUESTIONS.
APPROPRIATE PLAN, APPROPRIATE ARCHITECTURE AND WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL ON TO THE CITY OF COLUMBUS. OKAY. WE'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN UP FOR QUESTIONS FROM THE PANEL. IS THIS THE SAME DEVELOPER THAT IS DOING THE APARTMENTS TO THE SOUTH? YES. OKAY. AND THE BUILDINGS ARE COMPATIBLE AND VERY SIMILAR. THEY ARE OKAY.
THEY ARE. I FOR ONE, WAS NOT IN FAVOR OF THE PREMIER STORAGE AND I DID NOT VOTE FOR IT. BUT THIS IS A MUCH BETTER USE IN MY OPINION, FOR THIS PROPERTY. WILL IT BE ANY OTHER IMPROVEMENTS IN RIGHT OF WAY REQUIRED THERE? THERE WILL NOT BE. WE'VE THIS THIS RIGHT OF WAY IS, YOU KNOW, THIS THIS IS ONE OF THOSE WHICH YOU ALL SEE PROBABLY REGULARLY WHERE THE WHERE THE ZONING PROCESS IS, IS IN THE CITY OF COLUMBUS. BUT THE RIGHT OF WAY IS, IS FRANKLIN COUNTY. AND SO WE'VE BEEN ASKED TO COORDINATE WITH FRANKLIN COUNTY. WE'VE HAD THE TRAFFIC ENGINEERS DO SOME ANALYSIS, AND WE DO NOT BELIEVE THAT ANY ADDITIONAL ROAD IMPROVEMENTS ARE WARRANTED HERE BECAUSE THE PREVIOUS ROAD IMPROVEMENTS ARE SATISFACTORY TO SERVE THIS USE. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. WHAT'S THE MAJOR ROAD ON THAT RIGHT SIDE? IS THAT 605 HARLEM. OKAY. GOT IT. SO I HAVEN'T BEEN UP THERE, BUT SO IS PHASE TWO COMPLETED? JARED SMITH JUST JOINED US FROM PREFERRED LIVING STAND UP HERE JARED. AND. JARED SMITH HAVE PREFERRED LIVING. SO WE WENT AT THIS. I GUESS THIS COULD TECHNICALLY BE CONSIDERED PHASE THREE AT THIS POINT. WE DID THE THE FIRST PHASE, WHICH CONSISTED OF THOSE FIRST THREE LONG PARCELS. THEN WE ENDED UP DOING, I'LL CALL IT BUILDINGS 11 AND 12 THAT ARE FURTHEST TO THE TOP BY THE POND. RIGHT. WE ARE, WE ARE ABOUT TO OPEN IN ABOUT THREE WEEKS. WE ARE FRAMING BUILDINGS 11 AND 12 RIGHT NOW. SO IN VARIOUS STAGES OF CONSTRUCTIONS, THE FRONT TWO BUILD ACTUALLY ABOUT THE FRONT FOUR BUILDINGS ALONG HARLEM ROAD HAVE TEMPORARY OR VARIOUS STAGES OF TEMPORARY CERTIFICATES OF OCCUPANCY. SO WE ARE MOVING THROUGH RIGHT NOW.
MY HOPE IS, IS THAT I CAN MOVE THIS THROUGH QUICKLY AND JUST KIND OF CONTINUE THE MOMENTUM OF CONSTRUCTION THAT I HAVE. SO IT FLOWS AND FEELS ALL AS ONE DEVELOPMENT. AND THAT'S THE GOAL IF YOU DRIVE THROUGH THERE RIGHT NOW. I SHOWED IN THE PACKAGE FOR DAVID WHITE SIDING.
WE ENDED UP GOING WITH GRAY. NOT A BIG DIFFERENCE, BUT THE ARCHITECTURE IS EXACTLY THE SAME. WE JUST CHANGED THE COLOR. IF YOU DRIVE THROUGH THERE. OKAY, THANKS. IT'S HARLEM TO THE NORTH. COMPLETED. DOES IT CONNECT ANYTHING NOW? WHEN I DROVE THERE, I CAN'T GO ANYWHERE I STOP. SO HARLEM TO THE NORTH. WE CAN'T SEE IT. IT'S UNDERNEATH THERE. IT'S A I THINK IT'S AN I THINK THAT'S I DON'T WANT TO BE WRONG ABOUT THIS, BUT I THINK THAT'S AN MI HOME SUBDIVISION THAT'S UP TO THE NORTH. OKAY. PULTE. PULTE. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. MY HOMES ARE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ROAD. I DON'T KNOW WHAT ALL'S THERE. LOOKS TO BE SOME SOME LARGER
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LOT. SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL ON THE OTHER SIDE ON THE EAST SIDE OF HARLEM ROAD. THOSE LOOK TO BE 4 OR 5 ACRE LOTS IN THERE. I REMEMBER DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THAT LONG PIECE OF LAND UP THERE IN THERE WHEN WE WERE FIRST APPROVING THAT PROPERTY AND WHAT WHAT WAS GOING TO HOW WE HOW THAT WAS GOING TO REMAIN NATURAL AND SO FORTH. SO I ASSUME IT STILL IS. IT IS. YEAH.NONE OF THIS IS BEING TOUCHED EXCEPT FOR THE MORE VIBRANT COLOR THERE. AND YEAH, THERE WAS WORK WITH THE CITY AND WITH RECREATION AND PARKS RELATED TO THAT WESTERN PORTION OF THE PROPERTY. RIGHT. THAT L-SHAPED. PARALLEL. YOU CAN SEE ABOVE THE WORD PLAN IN THE BOTTOM LEFT CORNER, YOU SEE THE BOX OUT OF THE POWER LINES ABOUT EVERY 3 OR 4 YEARS. OBVIOUSLY, WE HAVE OUR STORM BASIN UP THERE, BUT AEP COMES THROUGH AND WILL CLEAR THAT ENTIRE AREA. I HAVE A QUESTION. IS THE SMALLER PIECE OF PROPERTY WITH THE BARN ON IT? TO THE NORTH? IS THAT CITY OF COLUMBUS, OR IS THAT PLAIN TOWNSHIP THAT HAS BEEN ANNEXED TO THE CITY OF COLUMBUS? OKAY, WHEN WE DID THE BACK PIECE, THE BUILDING WE ANNEXED INTO THE CITY FOR MR. SINGER.
OKAY. BUT IS IT IS ALL OKAY? IT'S ALL COLUMBUS DOES. THE FELLOW THAT HAD THE PROPERTY ORIGINALLY, DOES HE STILL OWN THAT SMALLER PIECE? YES. OKAY. SO OUR NEIGHBOR THERE TO THE NORTH IS THE SELLER OF THIS PROPERTY. OKAY. HE'S THE ONE THAT OWNED IT FOR HIM. FOR THE STORAGE COMPANY. YES. YES. AND ALL OF THIS COMPLEX IS NOT NEW ALBANY SCHOOLS, IS IT? WESTERVILLE? NO. COLUMBUS WOULD BE ANNEXATION INTO THE CITY. OKAY? OKAY. ANY ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I WOULD WE JUST JUST ONE QUICK LAST QUESTION AND I THINK I KNOW THE ANSWER, BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE. SO ALL THREE BUILDINGS FACING HARLEM ROAD WILL LOOK THE SAME. THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY. YEAH. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? DO WE WANT TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR APPROVAL? I'LL MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL. CAN WE GET A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. MR. SMITHERS. YES. MR. HERSHKOWITZ? YES, MR. YES. MR. BRUBAKER. YES. MR. PAUL. YES. MR. BILLMAN. YES.
MR. HARPER. YES. THE AYES HAVE IT WITH ALL VOTES IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE ZONING CHANGE.
THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU. THANKS FOR YOUR PATIENCE. THANKS. ALL RIGHT. AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, THE LAST ITEM WE HAVE ON OUR AGENDA IS Z C 8020, 25, 72, 70 NEW ALBANY CONDUIT ROAD. AND WE'LL GO AHEAD AND HEAR FROM THE STAFF ON THAT. THANK YOU.
ALL RIGHT. THIS IS A REQUEST TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 6.35 ACRES FROM LIMITED GENERAL EMPLOYMENT TO COMMUNITY FACILITIES TO ALLOW FOR THE PROPOSED PLAIN TOWNSHIP FIRE STATION. THE SITE IS LOCATED NEAR THE NORTHWEST INTERSECTION OF 605 AND NEW ALBANY ROAD EAST. HERE, THIS MAP SHOWS THE AREA THAT THE FIRE STATION WILL BE DEVELOPED ON. THE APPLICANT ANTICIPATES SPLITTING THE REMAINDER OF THE PARCEL OFF TO BE A NEW LOT, AND THIS IS JUST A REMINDER OF THE PROCESS. STAFF IS REQUESTING A RECOMMENDATION THIS AFTERNOON ON THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION. THE REZONING WOULD THEN BE REVIEWED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL TO TAKE FINAL ACTION. THE PROPOSED REZONING AND DEVELOPMENT SCORED A 92.4% ON THE EVALUATION CHECKLIST, AS SHOWN HERE, AND IN THE APPLICATION PACKET. THE SITE IS LOCATED IN THE ACCORDS OFFICE DISTRICT. HOWEVER, A FIRE STATION IS UNIQUE USE THAT IS, AN ESSENTIAL USE THAT PROVIDES CRITICAL PUBLIC SAFETY SERVICES AND REPRESENTS AN IMPORTANT CIVIC INVESTMENT THAT DIRECTLY BENEFITS THE COMMUNITY. THIS IS AN APPROPRIATE LOCATION TO BOTH PLAIN TOWNSHIP AND NEW ALBANY, AS THE FIRE STATION SERVES BOTH JURISDICTIONS. ON THE NORTH
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SIDE OF THE SITE, THE APPLICANT IS PRESERVING THE TREED AREA AS WELL AS IDENTIFYING A STREAM CORRIDOR PROTECTION ZONE. ALL SETBACKS MEET THE PROPOSED ZONING DISTRICT SETBACKS, AND THE ACCORD RECOMMENDS NO MORE THAN 70% OF BUILDING AND PAVEMENT COVERAGE, AND THIS IS ONLY 18.8%. BUILDING IN COVERAGE. AND HERE'S JUST SOME OF THE ELEVATIONS, WITH THE EAST ELEVATION BEING THE FRONT FACADE. THE WEST ELEVATION IS THE BACK FACADE, THE NORTH AND SOUTH ARE THE SIDE FACADES. SO IN SUMMARY AGAIN, FIRE STATIONS DELIVER ESSENTIAL PUBLIC SAFETY SERVICES, ENABLE RAPID EMERGENCY RESPONSE, AND SUPPORT BOTH CURRENT AND FUTURE DEVELOPMENT. WHILE IT IS IN THE ACCORDS OFFICE DISTRICT, IT REPRESENTS A SIGNIFICANT CIVIC INVESTMENT THAT DIRECTLY BENEFITS NEARBY NEIGHBORHOODS, BUSINESSES AND THE WIDER, WIDER COMMUNITY. THE ACCORD PLAN IDENTIFIES THE WALNUT STREET AND STATE ROUTE 605 IS A LIKELY AREA FOR A FUTURE FIRE STATION, AND ONE OF THE GOALS OF THE PLAN IS TO PROTECT NATURAL RESOURCES, AND THIS IS BY PROVIDING A STREAM CORRIDOR AS WELL AS KEEPING THE TREATED AREA. AND I AM HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. SO THE APPLICANT. I THINK THIS IS MY FIRST TIME HAVING ONE WHERE IT'S A MUNICIPALITY BASICALLY. SO YES. AND THEN OF COURSE IT DOESN'T FIT INTO ANY CATEGORY. YEAH OF COURSE, OF COURSE. SO WE I GUESS WE CAN GO AHEAD AND MOVE TO QUESTIONS THEN. DOES THE APPLICANT HAVE ANY ANYTHING THEY WANT TO. YEAH. WELL.NATHAN SHAW ARCHITECTS I'M JOINED BY THE ARMY BEHIND ME. THE ONLY THING I'LL ADD IS ON THE CHECKLIST. THERE WAS ONE QUESTION MARK WE DID RECEIVE IN REGARDS TO GROUND MOUNTED LIGHTING. WE DO HAVE A SCREENED, GROUND MOUNTED LIGHT THAT WILL JUST LIGHT A FLAGPOLE AT THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY. OTHER THAN THAT, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD AT THIS TIME.
OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION OF WHO OUR GUESTS WERE. I WASN'T SURE IF WE WERE HERE TO OPPOSE OR WHAT WE WERE HERE FOR. SO SO I APPRECIATE I APPRECIATE THE THE CLARIFICATION ON THERE SO WE CAN GO AHEAD AND OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS. YES. YEAH. WITH THE FIRE STATIONS, AREN'T YOU REQUIRED TO MODIFY THE TRAFFIC LIGHTS. YES. THERE WILL BE AS PART OF THIS AS A PART OF THE TRAFFIC STUDY WHICH HAS BEEN SUBMITTED TO THE CITY. AND WE'VE HAD COMMENTS BACK THAT THERE WILL BE A SYSTEM TO NOTIFY TRAFFIC OF ONGOING EMERGENCY EGRESS FROM THE SITE TO SLOW TRAFFIC AND ALLOW EGRESS FROM THE FIRE STATION.
THANK YOU. QUESTION. I'M TRYING TO GET A SENSE OF YOU MENTIONED THIS IS IN THE OFFICE DISTRICT.
YES. TRYING TO GET A BETTER SENSE, THOUGH, OF WHAT SURROUNDS IT. IT'S MY QUESTION IS INFORMED SOMEWHAT BY THE FACT THAT I LIVE IN A PORTION OF COLUMBUS WHERE I'M RIGHT BETWEEN TWO FIRE STATIONS, AND ESPECIALLY BEFORE I HAD MY WINDOWS REPLACED RECENTLY, I WAS ALWAYS HEARING SIRENS. SO I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, ARE THERE ANY RESIDENTIAL PROJECTS IN THIS VICINITY THAT MIGHT BE AFFECTED BY NOISE? I SEE APARTMENTS, I GUESS TO THE NORTH, YES, TO THE NORTH IS ACTUALLY A NEIGHBORHOOD. IT'S RANCH STYLE HOMES, SO THEY DO HAVE A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT BUFFER. THIS NEIGHBORHOOD HAS BEEN NOTIFIED. PREVIOUSLY, THE BUS DEPOT WAS GOING TO GO ON THIS SITE AND THE NEIGHBORS HAD CONCERNS ABOUT THAT. IT'S NOW JUST THE FIRE STATION. I HAVE NOT HEARD ANY CONCERNS REGARDING THAT. OF COURSE, THEY HAVE NOT BEEN NOTIFIED YET. THEY WILL BE FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION. BUT I DID REACH OUT TO THEY HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD HERO. SO I REACHED OUT TO HER AND LET HER KNOW. BUT YEAH, THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT BUFFER AND THE REST OF IT AROUND THERE IS COMMERCIAL. OKAY. THANK YOU.
BEN COLLINS WITH PLAIN TOWNSHIP. IF I COULD, IN PRIOR PUBLIC MEETINGS AND HEARINGS, WE DID HAVE MANY REPRESENTATIVES OF NOTTINGHAM TRACE THE SUBDIVISION TO THE NORTH. THEY VOICED THEIR SUPPORT FOR FIRE STATION IN THE PAST, AND WE HOPE THEY'LL CONTINUE TO DO SO.
OKAY. AND I CAN UNDERSTAND IT ALSO MIGHT IMPROVE THEIR INSURANCE COVERAGE AND OTHER THINGS. THERE MIGHT BE OTHER ADVANTAGES TO HAVING A FIRE STATION NEARBY. SO YES, THANK YOU. OF COURSE, I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS GOING BACK TO YOUR THE SITE PLAN THERE. WHEN I LOOKED AT IT, IT LOOKED LIKE IT HAD BAYS FOR TWO ENGINES IN AN EMERGENCY OR EMPTY OR WHATEVER.
CORRECT. WHAT DOES THE CURRENT FIREHOUSE HAVE IN THE WAY OF NUMBER OF BAYS? THREE AS WELL.
IT HAS THREE AS WELL. YEAH. THAT'S CORRECT. I'M SORRY, AM I REALLY THAT OFF? I'M SICK. OKAY, OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING. SO YEAH, IT'S A FIRE SUBSTATION. SO IT'S A REDUCED CAPACITY. OKAY. THAT WAS WHAT I'M. WHAT I WAS TRYING TO COME UP WITH WAS WITH THE PEOPLE IN THE AREA CONSIDERING MUTUAL AID AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF. DO YOU REALLY THINK THAT THREE BAYS IS ENOUGH FOR FOR THAT LOCATION, AND OR IS IT SUCH THAT YOU COULD EXTEND IT IF YOU NEEDED TO? SO WE CONDUCTED A STRATEGIC PLAN A FEW YEARS BACK TO IDENTIFY WHAT WE NEEDED TO
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PROVIDE SAFETY IN THE COMMUNITY. THERE'S WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT THE FUTURE. THIS IS A SUBSTATION AS FAR AS THE STAFFING CONCERNS ARE NEEDED. WE WERE GOING TO RUN AN ENGINE AND A MEDIC UNIT OUT OF THAT FIRE STATION. THE THIRD APPARATUS BAY WILL BE FOR RESERVE APPARATUS REPLACEMENT AND FOR OTHER STORAGE NEEDS. AND UNTIL OTHERWISE, IF WE WERE TO EXPAND OUR STAFFING, ANY MORE THAN THAT, WE MAY LOOK TO PUT A FIRE STATION TO THE SOUTH AND COVER SOME OF THOSE AREAS BETWEEN NEW ALBANY AND GAHANNA. THAT MIGHT NEED SOME COVERAGE THERE, BUT THE STRATEGIC PLAN CALLED FOR THIS LOCATION FIRST, AND THE STAFFING FOR THAT IS DYNAMIC. AT FIRST. THEY'LL PROBABLY NEVER BE MORE THAN SIX FIREFIGHTERS LOCATED AT THIS FIRE STATION. AND IF THERE IS, THERE'LL BE ANOTHER LOCATION THAT WE NEED TO IDENTIFY IN THE SOUTHERN PART OF NEW ALBANY. FIREFIGHTERS, FIGHTERS BE HOUSED THERE, HOUSED 24 HOURS A DAY, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK. YES, A DALMATIAN DOG. ALSO. THERE IS NO DOG ON THE PLANS. YEAH, I MISSED THE I MISSED THE POLL TOO. SO I DO HAVE A QUESTION THOUGH, AS A NEW ALBANY RESIDENT THAT, LIKE YOU SAID, THIS WILL BE CONSIDERED A SUBSTATION. AND THERE IS ALSO A COLUMBUS STATION GOING ON ON HARLEM AND AND OBVIOUSLY WHERE THE INITIAL FIRE STATION IS.I'M JUST CURIOUS, AGAIN, AS A NEW ALBANY RESIDENT, MOST OF THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS SOUTH, WELL, WHY DOES THERE SEEM TO BE MORE FIRE STATIONS ON THE NORTHERN END? WE ANTICIPATE GROWTH TO THE NORTH. WE ALSO ARE IN A BUSINESS OF MINUTES AND THE RESPONSE TIME TO OUR PLAIN TOWNSHIP RESIDENTS THAT LIVE NORTH IS HIGHER THAN THE NATIONAL STANDARD, SIGNIFICANTLY. SO OUR GOAL IS TO REDUCE THE RESPONSE TIMES IN THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE TO A MORE NATIONAL STANDARD WHERE WE, YOU KNOW, FOR THE OUR AMERICAN HEART ASSOCIATION GUIDELINES FOR CARDIAC ARREST AND ALL OF THE THINGS THAT HAPPENED IN HOUSE FIRES AS WELL, THE SOONER YOU CALL 911 AND A FIRE TRUCK OR EMS UNIT ARRIVES IS A BETTER CHANCE FOR SURVIVAL. BY FIRE STATION 36 FROM COLUMBUS AT HARLEM AND CENTRAL COLLEGE, RIGHT NEAR WHERE WE WERE JUST TALKING, IS ABOUT 2.2 MILES AWAY FROM THIS LOCATION, INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, JUST MET WITH THE CITY OF COLUMBUS ADMINISTRATION TODAY. WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE RESPONSE IN THAT AREA. THEY'RE EXTREMELY BUSY AS WELL. THESE TWO FIRE STATIONS WILL SERVICE THAT AREA, AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE VERY BUSY POTENTIALLY CROSSING EACH OTHER'S PATHS EACH DAY JUST BECAUSE THE INCREASED GROWTH IN CALL VOLUME IS EXPONENTIALLY INCREASING OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS, AND WILL CONTINUE TO IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS OR MORE.
WOULD YOU SAY THE MORE THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS SOUTH OF WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, AND YOU'RE ACTUALLY BUMPING UP AGAINST THE NORTHERN BOUNDARY OF PLAIN TOWNSHIP? SO I GUESS I'M JUST KIND OF AGAIN, WHY SO FAR? YOU SAID THERE'S GROWTH GOING ON IN THAT AREA, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE WE LOOK AT A LOT OF DIFFERENT METRICS WHEN WE DO THESE TYPES OF THINGS. ALL THIS THE, THE JUST TO THE NORTH IS A 55 AND OVER COMMUNITY. YEAH. AND THERE'S SEVERAL IN THAT AREA THAT AND AS WE KNOW, AS WE AGE WE, WE NEED MORE EMS AND SOMETIMES TRANSPORT TO THE HOSPITAL AND SOME MEDICAL CARE. WE FIND THAT OUR CALL VOLUMES ARE GOING THAT DIRECTION. AND SO WE LIKE TO PUT OUR EMS UNITS WHERE THE COMMUNITY ASKS FOR SERVICE. AND THEN ALSO A LOT OF THE INDUSTRIAL OR BUSINESS PARK AREAS THAT WAY ALSO. SO I'M ASSUMING YOU'RE GOING TO BE OBVIOUSLY SERVICING THE BUSINESS PART. YES, WE IT'S VERY INTERESTING IN THE FIRE AND EMS WORLD WHERE WE ARE CAN BE DIFFERENT ENTITIES LIKE THE CITY OF COLUMBUS, HARLEM TOWNSHIP TO THE NORTH, MONROE TOWNSHIP TO THE EAST. THESE ARE WE CROSS EACH OTHER'S BORDERS AND HELP EACH OTHER OUT QUITE REGULARLY BECAUSE FIRE STATES WE DON'T WANT TO OVER STAFF, BUT SOMETIMES WE HAVE 2 OR 3 CALLS AT THE SAME TIME. WE NEED THEIR HELP AND VICE VERSA. SO WE HAVE VERY GOOD WORKING RELATIONSHIPS WITH ALL OF THOSE FIRE STATIONS AND DIFFERENT GOVERNMENT ENTITIES TO PROVIDE SAFETY TO THIS COMMUNITY. WE ALL HAVE THE SAME MISSION. TRUE, I WOULD SUSPECT THE LYNX COMMUNITY IS VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS BECAUSE THEY ARE RIGHT ON THE OTHER SIDE, AND WE HAD THE COLLABORATIVE PROJECT BEFORE, AS MENTIONED WITH THE BUS GARAGE, THAT GOT A LOT OF RESISTANCE FOR THE BUS PORTION ONLY. WE DID MEET WITH THAT 55 AND OVER COMMUNITY DURING THAT TIME WHERE THEY EXPRESSED INTEREST IN THE FIRE STATION ONLY HAVE NO RESISTANCE. WE ACTUALLY HAVE ONE OF OUR SUPERVISORS THAT LIVES IN THAT COMMUNITY AND GETS A LOT OF FEEDBACK FROM THE RESIDENTS THERE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD THAT THEY'RE EXCITED AS WELL. I IMAGINE WE'LL HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE COMING OVER FOR BLOOD PRESSURE CHECKS. THAT FIRE STATION SOMEDAY NEARBY. SO WE'VE ALREADY APPROVED THE FINANCING FOR THIS. THIS WAS ON THE BALLOT LAST. YEAH, BEN COLLINS CAN SPEAK TO THAT, BUT YES. OKAY. SO YOU ARE CORRECT. THERE WAS A LEVY REQUEST THAT WAS SUPPORTED BY THE RESIDENTS BACK IN FALL OF 2020 FOR THAT FUNDING FOR THIS PROJECT. IT WASN'T SPECIFIC. IT WASN'T A
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BOND MEASURE. IT WAS AN OPERATING LEVY. AS FAR AS LOCATION, YOU KNOW, WE DID SPEND A LOT OF TIME, YOU KNOW, ANALYZING THE LOCATIONS. WE DID A MASTER PLAN ADOPTED AT THE END OF 23 THAT LED TO THIS LOCATION. SO NOTTINGHAM TRACE IS ONE OF FIVE SUBDIVISIONS WITHIN ONE MILE, THIS LOCATION. SO THAT WAS STRATEGIC TO THE SOUTH. THERE'S ALREADY AN EXISTING MIFFLIN SUBSTATION WITHIN LESS THAN A MILE SOUTH OF MORSE ROAD IN JEFFERSON TOWNSHIP IS BUILDING A SUBSTATION LESS THAN 1000FT SOUTH OF MORSE ROAD. SO WE HAVE LOTS OF MUTUAL AID COMING ON THE SOUTH END THAT WILL HELP PROVIDE ADDITIONAL SERVICES TO SUPPORT PLAIN TOWNSHIP. WE ARE LOOKING AGAIN AT STRATEGICALLY OTHER LOCATIONS IN THE FUTURE.OUR OTHER MUTUAL AID CURRENTLY IS HARLEM TOWNSHIP, ALL THE WAY UP IN CENTERBURG AND THEN WESTERVILLE ALL THE WAY ACROSS THE DAM. AND SO WE THIS IS MUCH MORE ISOLATED, NOTWITHSTANDING THE PROSPECT OF STATION 36 AND WHETHER OR NOT IT'S STAFFED AND WHEN. OKAY. GREAT. THANKS FOR THIS LOCATION WAS IN OUR ORIGINAL OUR ACCORD. IT MEANS YOU GO BACK 20 YEARS. IT SAID IT SAID WALNUT AND 605. SO THIS IS NOT SOMETHING NEW FOR THE COMMUNITY TO BE LOOKING AT. I THINK WE SUGGESTED THIS 20 YEARS AGO. CORRECT. OKAY. ANY ANY MORE QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT.
ALONG THIS LINES IS THE IS THE BUS TERMINAL GOING TO GO SOUTH OF THERE NOW OR IS THAT NOT GOING TO BE PART OF IT NOW. NOT PART OF IT OKAY. SO THE REZONING TONIGHT IS JUST FOR THE NORTHERN PART OF THIS CORRECT PROPERTY OKAY. OKAY. ARE WE READY FOR A MOTION? FOR APPROVAL? I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION. I'LL SECOND. SECOND. OKAY. MIKE CHAPLER SECOND. MR. BILLMAN.
YES, MR. CHEVALIER? YES, MR. HARPER. YES, MR. SMITHERS. YES, MR. BRUBAKER. YES. MR. HERSKOWITZ. YES. MR. PAUL. YES. THE AYES HAVE IT. MOTION PASSES WITH ALL VOTES TO RECOMMEND THE ZONING CHANGE. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER BUSINESS? IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU. NO OTHER BUSINESS. OKAY. CAN WE HAVE A MOTION FOR ADJOURNMENT? SO MOVED. I'LL SECOND. SECOND? YEAH. OKAY. WITHDRAWN. BUSINESS ORGANIZATIONAL STANDPOINT. THERE WAS A MESSAGE SAYING THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE CHANGING THE COMMUNICATIONS FROM COLUMBUS TO NEW ALBANY. AND STARTING IN 2026. WE'RE STILL FINALIZING THE DETAILS, BUT I IF YOU GUYS HAD ANYTHING THAT YOU WANTED TO TALK OR TELL US OR INFORM US ABOUT THAT, I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT UP AS AN ORGANIZATION. YEAH. AND AND ALSO JUST UNDERSTANDING WHEN THE CUTOFF, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO KNOW IF WE'RE NOT HAVING A MEETING AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, AS MUCH AS IT IS TO KNOW THAT WE'RE HAVING A MEETING. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S DISCUSSION WITH THAT, BUT IT'S JUST SOMETHING WE HOPE IS PART OF THE DISCUSSION. I'M NOT SURE IF EVERYBODY SAW THAT INFORMATION ABOUT THE THE CHANGE THAT NEW ALBANY WAS GOING TO BE LOOKING AT. OKAY. SO I JUST WANT I JUST WANTED TO GET CLARIFICATION ON THAT. THE DEADLINE WHEN IS THE DEADLINE FOR THE APPLICATION TO GO IN PRIOR TO OUR MEETING. IS THERE LIKE A TWO WEEK GAP WHEN IT'S SUBMITTED TO THE JURISDICTION? YEAH, TWO WEEKS IS THE DEADLINE FOR SUBMISSIONS AND THEN SHOULD KNOW TWO WEEKS BEFORE ANY MEETING WHETHER WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A MEETING OR NOT. WELL, THE AT LEAST FOR COLUMBUS, OUR APPLICATIONS ARE SUBMITTED AND THEN IT'S PROCESSED BY OUR PLANNING DIVISION STAFF TO DETERMINE IF THE APPLICATION IS COMPLETE OR IF IT NEEDS REVISIONS OR OTHER THINGS BEFORE HEADING TO THE PANEL. AND THEN THAT DECISION IS USUALLY MADE THAT WEEK. AND NEW ALBANY, OUR ROCKY RECORD DEADLINE WOULD BE TODAY. SO WE GET THOSE 30 DAYS IN ADVANCE.
YES. OKAY. SO AS FAR AS I KNOW, WE HAVE NOTHING FOR JANUARY BUT THAT WE'LL SEE. WE WE WON'T PLAN ANYTHING ON THAT THURSDAY THEN. ALL RIGHT. SO THE COMMUNICATIONS IS IN PROCESS OR IS BEING LOOKED AT. YEAH I WAS WITH COLUMBUS LEADERSHIP. THEY'VE SAID THEY'RE WORKING ON SOME THINGS. AND WHEN I HEAR MORE DETAILS I'M SURE WE'LL REACH OUT. ALL RIGHT. THANKS.
ALL RIGHT. NOW WE'LL DO THAT. MOTION FOR ADJOURNMENT I MOTION FOR ADJOURNMENT. SECOND SCOTT TILLMAN. THAT'S IT. ALRIGHT.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.