[I. Call to Order]
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          HERE IS HERE. SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER AND ASK FOR A ROLL CALL FOR ATTENDANCE. MR. SMITHERS HERE, MR. PAUL HERE. MR. HERE, HERE, MR. HERSKOWITZ. MR. HARPER, MR. BRUBAKER HERE, MR. BILLMAN HERE. MR. SELLERS I AM HERE BY MY MICROPHONE IS NOT WORKING AS WELL. SPEAK UP. WE HAVE SEVEN VOTING MEMBERS HERE 1234566 VOTING MEMBERS SEVEN. YES SIX 
          [III. Record of Proceedings]
VOTING MEMBERS PRESENT. WE HAVE A QUORUM. OKAY, FANTASTIC. SO OUR NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS TO REQUEST A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE PREVIOUS HEARING. MR. CHAIRMAN, I WOULD JUST ASK IF WE FIRST DO A MOTION TO APPROVE THE DECEMBER 1ST SPECIAL MEETING MINUTES THERE PRESENTED AT THE LAST MEETING, BUT THEY WEREN'T QUITE RIGHT FOR REVIEW. OKAY, SURE. I WANTED TO SAY SO. MOVED. BUT THAT WAS THAT WAS DECEMBER 2ND. CORRECT? DECEMBER 1ST. FIRST. 
          OKAY. SO THE FIRST THING WE WANT TO DO IS GET A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM THE DECEMBER 1ST. I WILL SO MOVE. PAUL. SECOND. OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. PAUL. YES, MR. BRUBAKER? YES, MR. SMITHERS? YES, MR. BILLMAN. YES. MR. YES. MR. SELLERS. ABSTAIN. THE AYES HAVE IT. THE MOTION PASSES WITH FIVE VOTES TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS SUBMITTED. OKAY. AND DO WE NEED A SEPARATE MOTION TO APPROVE DECEMBER 18TH? YES, PLEASE. OKAY. AND DO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR THAT? I WILL, SO MOVE. PAUL. I'LL SECOND BRUBAKER. MR. PAUL. YES, MR. BRUBAKER? YES, MR. SMITHERS. YES, MR. BILLMAN. YES. MR. CHAPEL. YES. AND MR. SELLERS, ABSTAIN. THE AYES HAVE IT. THE MOTION PASSES WITH FIVE VOTES TO APPROVE THE DECEMBER 18TH MINUTES AS SUBMITTED. OKAY. 
          FANTASTIC. DID WE HAVE ANY OLD BUSINESS? NO, NO. DO WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT HOW PROCEDURALLY WE'RE MOVING FORWARD? BECAUSE WE DID DISCUSS THAT AT THE LAST MEETING? YEAH. MR. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT TALKS BETWEEN COLUMBUS AND THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY ARE STILL ONGOING ABOUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD FOR DIVISION OF RESPONSIBILITIES BETWEEN THE JURISDICTIONS. OKAY. SO AT THIS TIME, WE HAVE NO UPDATES. NO UPDATES. OKAY. THANK YOU SIR. 
          ANY OTHER ANY OTHER ITEMS. ALL RIGHT. WELL, I THINK THAT TAKES US UP TO THE REASON THAT WE'RE 
          [V. New Business]
HERE TODAY. AND THAT'S A NEW BUSINESS. I DON'T I DON'T THINK THERE'S I DON'T SEE THE CASE NUMBER. I DIDN'T BRING MY READING GLASSES, BUT IT'S FOR NO CASE NUMBER. OKAY. 59 5953 CENTRAL COLLEGE ROAD. AND DO WE NEED TO DO THE OATH EVEN THOUGH IT'S IT'S EVERYONE THAT'S GOING TO SPEAK. JUST STAND UP AND SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH, SO HELP YOU GOD. I DO. ALRIGHT. GOOD DEAL. SO WE'LL HAVE THE STAFF GO AHEAD AND PRESENT AND THEN WE'LL CALL THE APPLICANT UP. GOOD AFTERNOON PANEL. TODAY WE'LL BE LOOKING AT THE SITE LOCATED AT 5953 CENTRAL COLLEGE ROAD. CONCEPTUAL APPLICATION FOR FEEDBACK. NO VOTE FOR ACTION WILL BE REQUESTED TODAY. QUICK OVERVIEW OF THE SITE. CURRENTLY, TWO PARCELS ZONED CPD AT THE FOOD HALL LOCATION. THE OTHER PARCEL TO THE WEST LOCATED LC FOUR AND LA FURTHER TO THE SOUTH. SO THERE'S THE FOOD HALL RIGHT HERE. I'M CIRCLING AND THEN THIS PARCEL RIGHT HERE TO PROPOSED. THAT BOTH THE THE BOTH PARCELS ARE THAT WHERE YOU'RE CIRCLING. YES. SO THIS UNDEVELOPED PARCEL RIGHT HERE AND THEN THE EXISTING FOOD HALL. 
          THOSE PARCELS. OKAY. THE ZONING REQUEST WOULD BE FOR THE LIMITED APARTMENT, RESIDENTIAL ZONING, THE PLAN, THE RPA PLAN RECOMMENDS OFFICE USES FOR THIS LOCATION. AVENUE PARTNERS PROPOSES DEVELOPING THE SITE, BOTH PARCELS WITH 228 MULTIFAMILY UNITS. SO HERE'S GOING INTO THE ZONING. THE RED AREA IS BROKEN UP INTO SUBAREAS, THE UNDEVELOPED AREA. CURRENTLY 
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WE HAVE THE LC FOUR AND THEN FOR THE SOUTH OF THE LRT, THEN THE FOOD HALL AND DEVELOPMENT OVER TO THE EAST. IS CBD. AND HERE'S JUST A QUICK SCREENSHOT SHOWING THE PLAN RECOMMENDATION FOR OFFICE USES. THEN THE APPLICANT DID SUBMIT A FEW PIECES OF INFORMATION. THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN, LIKE WE MENTIONED EARLIER, 228 UNITS WITH AND THEN THE EASTERN PORTION CONTAINING THE FOOD HALL WILL BE REPLACED AS WELL. DID YOU SAY THE FOOD HALL WOULD BE REPLACED? IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID? YES. OKAY. WOW. STAFF DID HAVE A CHANCE TO SPEAK WITH THE APPLICANT AND A FEW PIECES OF INFORMATION THAT STAFF REQUESTED IN ORDER TO FURTHER COMPLETE THEIR APPLICATION. WE REQUEST INFORMATION ABOUT THE LIGHTING PLAN. WE NEED A SUBMITTAL OF ELEVATION DRAWINGS. WE ALSO WANTED A DELINEATION OF THE SIDEWALK ALONG CENTRAL COLLEGE ROAD, WHICH WE BELIEVE IS REQUIRED BY CODE, AND THEN MEASUREMENTS IN THE MEASUREMENTS IN THE PLAN FOR SETBACK AND BUILDING LINES, LANDSCAPE AND PARKING SCREENING INFORMATION AS REQUIRED BY CODE AND PLAN, AND THEN BICYCLE PARKING. CITY STAFF ALSO ENCOURAGES THE APPLICANT TO INCORPORATE THE EXISTING BUBBLY HALL BUILDING INTO THE PROPOSED SITE DESIGN, RATHER THAN DEMOLITION. THE APPLICANT ALSO SUBMITTED SOME MATERIALS, SO I BELIEVE WE'LL HAVE THEM COME UP AND SAY A FEW THINGS. OKAY. I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY BEING HERE. 
          THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. PAUL. PARTY WITH AVENUE PARTNERS. I WON'T BORE YOU TOO MUCH ON OUR BACKGROUND, BUT JUST BECAUSE THIS IS MY FIRST TIME HERE, I JUST WANT TO LET YOU GUYS KNOW WE'RE MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT GROUP THAT'S BASED IN SHORT NORTH, FOUNDED IN 2011. WE DEVELOPED NEARLY 2000 UNITS. SINCE THAT TIME. WE PRIDE OURSELVES ON QUALITY AND DESIGN. 
          WE'RE NOT A COMPANY THAT'S GOING TO CRANK OUT, YOU KNOW, 1000 UNITS OF THE SAME PRODUCT EVERY YEAR. WE'VE DONE STUFF IN THE SHORT NORTH, GRANDVIEW, CLEVELAND. WE JUST FINISHED A PROJECT IN HILLIARD, AND WE'RE CONSTRUCTING A PROJECT IN GAHANNA RIGHT NOW. SO WE'RE EXCITED TO TO BE IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY. AND IF YOU HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS ABOUT US, HAPPY TO ANSWER ON THAT. SO BACKGROUND ON THE SITE HERE. AND THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT I THINK WE HAD AN INFORMAL MEETING WITH COLUMBUS PLANNING STAFF ON ON FRIDAY. AND THOSE COMMENTS HAVE BEEN WRITTEN DOWN PRIOR TO US HAVING A CONVERSATION WITH THEM AND WHAT'S GOING ON WITH BUBBLY HALL. SO BUBBLY HALL HAS BEEN GOING THROUGH A FORECLOSURE PROCESS FOR THE LAST YEAR. THE LENDER, THEY JUST HAD THE SHERIFF'S SALE THE DAY AFTER CHRISTMAS, AND THOSE PAPERS ARE FINISHED UP BEING FINALIZED RIGHT NOW. YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE HAD FINANCIAL AND LEGAL ISSUES GOING BACK TO CONSTRUCTION ALL THE WAY THROUGH OPERATIONS OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS. YOU KNOW, FOOD HALLS WERE THE HOT FRENZY 3 OR 4 YEARS AGO. MOST OF THE FOOD HALLS ARE ARE STRUGGLING RIGHT NOW. THERE'S A REASON WHY THE NORTH MARKET IS A NONPROFIT, RIGHT? SO, YOU KNOW, IF IF IF THERE WAS A SCENARIO WHERE WE COULD HAVE BOUGHT THIS SITE AND THE FOOD HALL WAS CRUSHING IT AND DOING WELL, AND WE WERE JUST DEVELOPING ON THE 6.2 ACRES, WE WOULD HAVE WELCOMED THAT SCENARIO. THAT'S NOT A SCENARIO THAT'S IN FRONT OF US RIGHT NOW. FOR JUST FOR ADDITIONAL BACKGROUND. THAT'S LIKE, MAYBE, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO STAY FOCUSED ON THE PROJECT WE'RE PROPOSING HERE, BUT WE HAVE BEEN SPEAKING WITH BROKERS WHO ARE SOME OF THE TOP MOST EXPERIENCED BROKERS, TO SEE IF THERE'S OTHER ADDITIONAL USES FOR THAT BUILDING. YOU KNOW, IF WE COULD GET A BOUTIQUE GROCER IN THERE, THAT'D BE PHENOMENAL, RIGHT? WE'VE ALREADY GOT SHOT DOWN BY A COUPLE OF THOSE FOLKS, BUT WE'RE WORKING WITH A BROKER WHO'S DONE DEALS WITH SPROUTS AND ALDI AND GOT TRADER JOE'S ON SPEED DIAL. SO WE'VE GOTTEN IN FRONT OF ALL THOSE PEOPLE. WE'VE GOTTEN SHOT DOWN BY A COUPLE. IF SOMETHING COMES TOGETHER ON ONE OF THOSE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A PRELIMINARY MEETING RIGHT NOW. YOU KNOW, WE RESERVE THE RIGHT TO CHANGE THAT. BUT THAT THAT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT'S FEASIBLE RIGHT NOW, BUT WE'RE GOING TO REMAIN OPEN MINDED TO THAT. SO I JUST WANTED TO PASS ALONG THAT BACKGROUND. IS IT AM I ABLE TO GET THE POINTER FOR LASER POINTER. YEAH. SO YEAH. NOW WE 
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GO TO THE THE SITE PLAN. OKAY. SO IN TERMS OF THE TOP CONSIDERATIONS WE HAD FOR OUR SITE PLANNING. NUMBER ONE IS THIS IS A STREAM CORRIDOR PROTECTION ZONE RIGHT HERE. SO WE WANTED TO PRESERVE EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON IN THE STREAM QUARTER PROTECTION ZONE RIGHT THERE. SO WE'RE ALL OF OUR DEVELOPMENT IS SET BACK OFF THAT WE NOT ONLY WOULD WE WANT TO DO THIS, BUT IT'S ALSO, YOU KNOW, HIGHLY RECOMMENDED BY CITY PLANNING STAFF. WE WANTED TO HAVE BUILDINGS FRONTING CENTRAL COLLEGE AND NOT HAVE A BIG PARKING LOT OUT ON ON CENTRAL COLLEGE. RIGHT NOW, THERE'S A GAP IN THE SIDEWALK ALONG CENTRAL COLLEGE, SO WE'RE KIND OF EXCITED TO BRING SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BRING A PEDESTRIAN EXPERIENCE AND KIND OF CONNECT EVERYTHING ALONG ALONG THAT, ALONG THAT ROUTE. AND HAVING BUILDINGS FRONTING THE STREET THERE, OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, A BUNCH OF TREES AND WE'RE GOING TO INVEST HEAVILY IN LANDSCAPING HERE. WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THAT. WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE OUR PRIMARY ACCESS THIS IS A PRIVATE ROAD RIGHT HERE. THERE'S THERE'S SOME ACCESS EASEMENTS WORKED OUT WITH SOME OF THE SURROUNDING USES. BUT WE'RE WE WANT TO KEEP OUR PRIMARY ACCESS POINT ALIGNED WITH THIS PUBLIC STREET TO THE NORTH HERE. AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE ACCESS. WE HAVE A RECIPROCAL. THIS IS ACTUALLY OUR PARCEL TWO UP TO HERE. AND THEN WE HAVE ACCESS OUT HERE AS WELL AS ACCESS OUT THIS WAY TO. LET'S SEE. OH ANOTHER BIG ISSUE. THIS IS AN 82 FOOT WIDE GAS EASEMENT HERE. SO THIS IS COLUMBIA GAS RIGHT HERE. UNFORTUNATELY COLUMBIA GAS SOLD SOME OF THEIR EASEMENTS TO A COMPANY CALLED TRANSCANADA ENERGY. AND I HAVE SPENT A LOT OF MY TIME TRYING TO TRACK DOWN FEEDBACK FROM TRANSCANADA ENERGY. THEY HAVE TWO ENGINEERS BASED IN CALGARY, ALBERTA, COVERING THE ENTIRE UNITED STATES. AND WE FINALLY GOT SOME FEEDBACK FROM THEM OVER THE LAST FEW WEEKS AFTER WE HAD SUBMITTED THIS. THEY ARE GOING TO THERE IS GOING TO BE AT LEAST A SLIGHT REWORKING OF SOME OF HOW WE HAVE THE PARKING SET UP IN THIS AREA, RIGHT? NOTHING THAT I THINK WOULD BE VIEWED NEGATIVELY BY YOU GUYS, BUT JUST, YOU KNOW, WE HAD TO LOCATE WE HAD TO BRING ADDITIONAL PEOPLE OUT, LOCATE WHERE THE PIPELINE IS IN THAT AREA, MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE, YOU KNOW, DRIVES ON TOP OF IT. AND AND THEY'RE ALSO RESTRICTING THE TYPES OF. LARGE TREES THAT WE COULD PUT IN THAT EASEMENT AREA SO WE CAN PUT, YOU KNOW, BUSHES AND SOME OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT. AND, YOU KNOW, WE ARE GOING TO ON THE SIDE OF TRYING TO PUT THE LARGEST PLANTS WE CAN IN THAT AREA THAT STILL CAN BE APPROVED BY TRANSCANADA. SO ANYWAYS, JUST THERE'LL BE A SLIGHT TWEAK WHEN WE COME BACK TO YOU NEXT TIME AND THAT WILL EXPLAIN PART OF IT. BUT THAT'S ALSO WHY WE HAVE OUR BUILDINGS SET UP LIKE THIS. WE'VE NEVER RUN INTO THIS BEFORE. WE BUILT OVER TONS OF GAS EASEMENTS, NEVER BEEN AN ISSUE WITH PUTTING PAVEMENT OVER, BUT TRANSCANADA ENERGY NOW. SO AND JUST TO CLARIFY, IS THIS NATURAL GAS OR IS THIS PETROLEUM PRODUCTS LIKE THE ONE THAT RUNS FROM HEATH DOWN TO THE WEST SIDE OF COLUMBUS? DO YOU KNOW WHAT KIND OF GAS PIPELINE? I MEAN, IT'S IT'S IT'S IT WAS COLUMBIA GAS. OKAY. IT'S PROBABLY NATURAL. I CAN'T SPEAK TO HOW SIMILAR IT IS TO THOSE OTHER ONES. OKAY. SO THAT'S THOSE ARE SOME OF THE CONSTRAINTS WE WERE WE WERE WORKING WITH WHEN WE CAME INTO THIS SITE PLAN. THIS IS THIS IS WHAT WE CAME UP WITH. IT'S, IT'S IT'S 228 UNITS, A COMBINATION OF ONE BEDROOMS AND TWO BEDROOMS. WE HAVE A CLUBHOUSE HERE THAT, YOU KNOW, LOVE TO IF YOU GUYS WANT TO SEE PICTURES OF OTHER PROJECTS. BUT WE WE THE CLUBHOUSE WILL BE REALLY NICE, HIGH QUALITY FINISHES AND, YOU KNOW, WE WE PUT A TON OF DETAIL INTO THE DESIGN THAT WE'RE DOING HERE. 
          BUT IT'S GOING TO HAVE A FITNESS CENTER. IT'S GOING TO HAVE CO-WORKING AREAS. IT'S IT'S GOING TO HAVE A LOUNGE, OBVIOUSLY LEASING OFFICES. YOU KNOW, WE'LL HAVE A REALLY NICE POOL, SUNDECK, OUTDOOR AMENITY AREAS HERE. AND WE'RE GOING TO INVEST EXTENSIVELY IN LANDSCAPING. WE WORK WITH POD DESIGN ON THAT. THE INITIAL FEEDBACK FROM CITY PLANNING STAFF, THAT WAS INFORMAL, I WOULD SAY THE THE BIGGEST CRITIQUE THEY HAD WAS, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE FOOD HALL. ASIDE FROM THAT, EVERYTHING WAS WAS WAS PRETTY POSITIVE. I DIDN'T HAVE A BUNCH MORE IMPORTANT THINGS TO KICK OFF. DAVE, IS THERE ANYTHING YOU THINK I SHOULD MENTION BEFORE WE GO TO QUESTIONS? WE WANT TO DO THE PRELIMINARY 
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REVIEW OF THIS. THIS WILL COME BACK APPLICATION. OKAY. DO WE WANT TO GO AHEAD AND OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS OKAY. WHAT'S THE MAJOR ACCESS INTO THAT DEVELOPMENT. IS IT OFFICE CENTRAL COLLEGE OR IS IT OFF OF NEW ALBANY ROAD CENTRAL COLLEGE RIGHT HERE OKAY. AND THIS IS THE THIS DRIVE IS ALIGNED WITH WHAT'S THERE RIGHT NOW. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU IF WE HAVE A PICTURE OF THE EXISTING, BUT THIS IS ALREADY THE MAIN DRIVEWAY RIGHT HERE. AND HE SAID THAT'S A PRIVATE PRIVATE ACCESS. IT'S PRIVATE. YEAH. OKAY. BUT WE HAVE EASEMENTS WORKED OUT WITH THE OTHER. SO LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE AN EASEMENT WITH THE CONDO ASSOCIATION DOWN HERE THAT THEY CAN COME THROUGH OUR PROPERTY, AND THEN WE HAVE EASEMENT WITH THEM THAT WE CAN COME OUT THIS WAY. AND IS THERE SOMETHING ON THE NORTH SIDE OF ACE HARDWARE? THERE'S THIS IS THIS IS COLUMBIA GAS THAT'S SUBSTATION RIGHT HERE. SO IT'S NOT THE PRETTIEST THING IN THE WORLD. YOU KNOW, IT IS WHAT IT IS. YOU KNOW. SO. ARE YOU PLANNING ON DOING SOME KIND OF A NATURE BLOCK ON THAT AS WELL? YEAH, WE'LL TRY TO DO AS MUCH SCREENING AS WE AS WE CAN ON THAT. TRY TO DO SOME NATURAL SCREENING THROUGH LANDSCAPING. 
          AND WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, ONCE YOU GET OUTSIDE THE EASEMENT AREA, THERE'S NO LIMITATION ON HOW BIG OF TREES AND PLANTS WE CAN PUT IN THOSE AREAS. IS THAT JUST BECAUSE OF LIKE, WHATEVER ROOT SYSTEM THEY MAY HAVE, IF IT'S A BIG OAK, FOR EXAMPLE, OR SOMETHING, IT'S GOING TO GO TEAR IT UP EVENTUALLY. YEAH. THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THE ROOTS. YEAH. INTERESTING. THE STRUCTURES ALONG THE WEST EDGE OF THE WEST PARCEL. YES. THOSE FIVE. AND THEN I SEE ONE AND I GUESS ONE STRUCTURE ON THE PARCEL ON THE EAST. ARE THOSE PARKING. YES. OKAY. DETACHED GARAGES. SOME OF THEM WILL BE CARRIAGE HOUSE UNITS ABOVE THE GARAGES AS WELL. SO YOU KNOW, TYPICALLY YOU KNOW, MOST OF THESE ARE I THINK LIKE RIGHT HERE THIS IS A CARRIAGE HOUSE. 
          SO THAT'S LIKE SIX SIX GARAGE SPACES AND THEN TWO UNITS ABOVE IT. OKAY. WOULD ANY OF THOSE BE ON THAT KIND OF BOTTOM CORNER PIECE CARRIAGE HOUSE DOWN THERE. RIGHT HERE. YEAH POTENTIALLY. 
          YEAH. AND THOSE ARE LEASED SEPARATELY. IN OTHER WORDS, YOU DON'T EARN A RIGHT TO A SPOT IN ONE OF THOSE PARKING UNITS. IF YOU LEASE OR PURCHASE A PROPERTY. IN THE MAIN, THE WAY MOST PEOPLE DO THAT WITH THAT STYLE BUILT, I MEAN, WE'RE GOING TO SET UP THE ACCESS SO THAT, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S SIX PARKING SPOTS UNDER ANY OF THOSE SIX PARKING SPOTS COULD GO UP TO THOSE UNITS. IT DOESN'T FEED DIRECTLY INTO A SINGLE PARKING SPACE. WHETHER WE END UP AUTOMATICALLY INCLUDING IT WITH THE UNIT, OR WHETHER WE GIVE THE OPTION FOR PEOPLE TO PAY EXTRA FOR THAT. YOU KNOW, I, I CAN'T SAY WITH 100% CERTAINTY. I MEAN, WE'RE CERTAINLY GOING TO WE'VE STUDIED THE MARKET A LOT. BUT YOU KNOW, WE'LL, YOU KNOW, NAIL THAT DOWN AS WE GET HOW MANY SURFACE PARKING SPACES ARE THERE. DO YOU KNOW OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD IT IS 359 ACCORDING TO THIS PLAN. BUT THAT I ALREADY KNOW. I'VE GOT OTHER NUMBERS SPINNING AROUND IN MY HEAD BECAUSE WE'RE WORKING ON REWORKING THIS PARKING LOT HERE. ACCORDING TO THAT GAS EASEMENT, THAT'S THAT WE'VE HAD TO REDESIGN THE PARKING FOR. SOUNDS LIKE IT'S BEING A LITTLE BIT LESS THAN THREE. THE MAIN THING, LIKE ONE HALF PER UNIT, IS WHAT I'M GETTING OUT OF THAT. YEAH. SO AND AND THE MAIN THING THAT WE FOCUS ON I KNOW THE CODE IS ONE AND A HALF PER UNIT, BUT THAT COULD BE IF YOU DID ALL TWO BEDROOM UNITS THAT MIGHT BE VASTLY UNDER PARKED. RIGHT, RIGHT. IF YOU DID ALL ONE BEDROOM UNITS, YOU WOULD BE WAY OVER PARKED. SO WE FOCUS ON THE RATIO RELATIVE TO THE NUMBER OF BEDROOMS. AND WE'RE WE'RE CERTAINLY GOING TO BE ABOVE MORE THAN ONE PARKING SPACE PER BEDROOM. SO OKAY, THE REASON I BROUGHT UP THAT CARRIAGE HOUSE COMMENT IS WE'VE SEEN IN THE PAST, SOMETIMES THERE'S SOME PUSHBACK FROM THE NEIGHBORS THAT WOULD BE BEHIND THERE FROM LOOKING DOWN INTO THE PROPERTY. SO IT LOOKS LIKE YOU HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL SCREENING THERE THAT'S MAYBE A LITTLE BIT MORE ROBUST. SO JUST MAYBE SOMETHING TO PUT OF IN THE BACK YOUR BRAIN ABOUT BEING GOOD NEIGHBORS. THOSE FOLKS DOWN THERE, YOU MAY GET SOME PUSHBACK FROM THEM. YEAH. THAT'S A THAT'S A GOOD COMMENT I APPRECIATE THAT WE'RE CONSCIOUS OF THAT. THIS IS AN AREA WHERE WE CAN PLANT TALLER TREES. YEAH. SO WE WOULD CERTAINLY WANT TO INVEST IN THAT RIGHT THERE. I DEBATED WHETHER IT WAS WORTH BRINGING THIS UP, BUT I'M NOT SURE. I DON'T KNOW EVERYBODY'S HISTORY WITH HOW LONG YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN INVOLVED HERE. BUT THE THE PRIOR OWNER OF BUBBLY HALL DID GET A SITE PLAN APPROVED HERE. 
          YEAH, I THINK IT'S FOUR YEARS AGO. MAYBE SOMETHING LIKE THAT. YEAH. I WAS GOING TO SAY I REMEMBER GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS AND I'M SHOCKED, I GUESS THAT IT'S GOING TO BE DEMOLISHED ALREADY. IT SEEMED LIKE WHEN THAT LONG AGO THAT WE APPROVED IT. SO THEY, THEY PUT THEY HAD THREE STORY BUILDINGS RIGHT ON THIS LINE THAT WE HAVE RIGHT HERE. THEY HAD THREE 
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STORY BUILDINGS RIGHT ON THAT LINE THERE. SO OUR BUILDINGS AND THAT'S 25 FOOT OFF THE PROPERTY LINE, OUR BUILDINGS ARE GOING TO BE ROUGHLY THREE TIMES THAT OFF THE PROPERTY LINE. SO YOU KNOW, I THINK IF YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO BE FURTHER BACK THAN WHAT'S CURRENTLY APPROVED THAT COULD GET BUILT RIGHT NOW. WE'RE PUSHING IT FURTHER OFF. SO IS THIS PROPERTY. SO YOU SAID THIS DID GO THROUGH THE BUBBLY HALL DID GO THROUGH SHERIFF'S SALE OR. YES. AND AND YOU ARE SOMEBODY OWNS THEM. THE LENDER THE LENDER TOOK THE OKAY HAS TAKEN OWNERSHIP I MEAN I THINK THERE'S OVER THE NEXT WEEK OR TWO, THERE'S SOME PAPERWORK THAT TAKES A WHILE TO FILE WITH, WITH THE JUDGE OR WHATEVER BEFORE IT WILL POP UP ON THE AUDITOR'S WEBSITE. BUT YEAH, IN THIS, IN THIS PROPERTY, THE BUBBLY HALL WAS IS ZONED OR IS IN COLUMBUS, I ASSUME. RIGHT. AND THE OTHER PARCEL, THE PROPERTY THAT'S THE VACANT PROPERTY IS THAT COLUMBUS ALSO IS THAT ANNEXED IN COLUMBUS? YEAH. OKAY. I ASSUMED THAT WAS THE CASE. AND THEN THE OTHER THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD IS YOU OWNED SOME ACCESS GOING TO NEW ALBANY ROAD. YEP. AND WE DON'T OWN THIS PROPERTY HERE, BUT WE HAVE. WELL, I WAS THINKING OF THE ONE BETWEEN UP THE, THE, THE ABOVE THAT BETWEEN ACE AND COLUMBIA. YEAH. EXACTLY. YEAH. 
          THERE'S A PERSON UP HERE. SO WE OWN LIKE IT'S VERY STRANGE. LIKE WE OWN THIS AREA RIGHT HERE AND THEN IT, LIKE, POPS UP RIGHT HERE. BUT THIS LITTLE PART SPECIFICALLY RIGHT HERE IS OWNED BY ACE, THE PEOPLE WHO OWN ACE. IF WE CAN PULL UP THE WE HAVE ANOTHER SLIDE HERE. SO YEAH, YOU CAN SEE IT'S IT'S KIND OF A STRANGE SHAPE THE WAY THAT. YEAH I DON'T KNOW WHAT WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO CODE GIVING IT UP THIS WAY 25 YEARS AGO. BUT BUT YOU WOULD DEAL WITH THAT WITH A THROUGH AN ACCESS EASEMENT. YES. OKAY. YEAH. THERE'S THIS WHOLE THERE'S MULTIPLE ASSOCIATE I MEAN THIS IS ABOUT AS FUN OF A YOU COULD GET WITH WITH TITLE WORK ON THIS THING. BUT THERE'S A THERE'S A WISHBONE DISTRICT ASSOCIATION WHICH GOVERNS ALL THE RECIPROCAL EASEMENT STUFF. AND THEN YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALBANY BUSINESS PARK ASSOCIATION. SO YEAH. ANY PLANS TO ACCOMMODATE LIKE CYCLING PATHS OR I KNOW CENTRAL COLLEGE IS A HORRIBLE PLACE TO RIDE YOUR BIKE. I KNOW THAT FROM EXPERIENCE, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE PLANNING ON PUTTING ANY BIKE LANES ON THAT. ARE YOU LOOKING AT ANY? YOU SAID A SIDEWALK, WHICH ISN'T FOR REALLY FOR BIKES, BUT YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT BIKE RACKS. SO WHERE DO YOU INTEND THOSE FOR THOSE PEOPLE TO BE RIDING THEIR BIKES? ARE YOU THINKING ABOUT A PATH ANYWHERE OR CONNECTION TO ANY OF THE PATHS, OR PUSHING TO THE CITY TO DO ANYTHING ON THOSE ROADS? YEAH, I MEAN, WE'RE VERY SMALL PIECE OF THE PUZZLE. YEAH. YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT I MEAN, OUR WE DON'T OWN. RIGHT? YEAH. YOUR REQUIREMENT IS TO PUT IN THE SIDEWALKS BASICALLY. YEAH. I MEAN, WE AND WHERE THE CITY HAS THINGS CALLED OUT FOR. HEY THIS SHOULD BE SIDEWALK. THIS SHOULD BE MULTI-USE PATH. AND WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE WE WILL ENTHUSIASTICALLY EMBRACE WHATEVER FEEDBACK THEY GIVE US ON SIDEWALK VERSUS MULTI-USE PATH. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE DON'T CONTROL, YOU KNOW WHAT? WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE CITY'S RIGHT OF WAY? ANY TRAFFIC STUDY WITH CENTRAL COLLEGE, IF THAT'S GOING TO BE THE MAIN ENTRANCE AND EXIT FROM DAVE CAN PROBABLY SPEAK MORE EDUCATED THAN I CAN ON THAT. BUT I MEAN, WITH THIS PREVIOUSLY, RESIDENTIAL IS A LOWER INTENSIVE USE THAN THAN COMMERCIAL ON THE TRAFFIC SIDE. 
          SO THIS IS ACTUALLY DOWN ZONING FROM A TRAFFIC INTENSITY PERSPECTIVE. AND THE OTHER THING THAT WAS PART OF THAT PREVIOUS SITE PLAN FROM 4 OR 5 YEARS AGO, I MEAN, IT HAD A DRIVE THROUGH RIGHT HERE AND ANOTHER ACCESS RIGHT HERE. SO FROM A FROM A TRAFFIC PERSPECTIVE, LIKE I THINK ANY TRAFFIC ENGINEER WOULD SAY THIS IS AN IMPROVEMENT OVER WHAT'S APPROVED RIGHT NOW. SO I DON'T SEE ANY RETENTION ON THE SITE. IS THERE IS THAT UNDER PAVEMENT RETENTION OR HOW IS THAT BEING DEALT WITH. YES, THAT'S THAT'S THE WAY THIS IS THIS IS PUT TOGETHER. YEAH. AND YOU KNOW, AGAIN WE'RE STUDYING A COUPLE DIFFERENT SCENARIOS HERE WITH THIS FEEDBACK WE GOT FROM FROM THE PIPE PIPELINE COMPANY. BUT I MEAN THAT'S WHAT WE'VE, WE'VE DONE ON, YOU KNOW, THE MAJORITY OF OUR PROJECTS AS WE'VE DONE THE UNDERGROUND STORM CHAMBERS, I THINK SUGAR RUN'S GOT ONE AND THE CONDO SUGAR RUNS ALSO GOT ONE. EXPENSIVE. YES. RIGHT. 
          OKAY. I HAVE A QUESTION. ALTHOUGH IT MAY END UP BEING A QUESTION FOR STAFF, NOT FAR AWAY FROM THIS SITE IS WHAT'S KNOWN AS CENTRAL COLLEGE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY DISTRICT AND FAIR DISCLOSURE I'VE BEEN A MEMBER OF THE BOARD OF THAT DISTRICT FOR SOME TIME. 
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IT STARTED OUT WITH UPPER ALBANY WEST, JUST FURTHER DOWN TO THE WEST ON CENTRAL COLLEGE. 
          WOULD THIS END UP BEING PART OF THAT CDA DISTRICT OR IS THERE ANY IS PAY AS YOU GROW PROGRAM STILL IN EFFECT THAT WOULD REQUIRE INVESTMENT IN LOCAL INFRASTRUCTURE? YES. AND YEAH THIS IS THE PAGE AREA. SO I BELIEVE IT'LL APPLY OKAY. SO WITH THIS, DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT WHETHER THIS WOULD BE INCORPORATED INTO THE CENTRAL COLLEGE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY OR HOW THAT WOULD BE HANDLED? I DO NOT HAVE THAT INFORMATION. I CAN SPEAK TO ONE OF OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PLANS, SOMETHING TO LOOK INTO. MARK LUNDEEN IS ACTUALLY THE VICE CHAIR OF THAT AUTHORITY. SO HE SHOULD BE VERY HELPFUL IN TALKING WITH HIM ABOUT IT, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND. ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU. YEAH, THAT IS ONE. I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE CHALLENGING ABOUT THIS SITE, BUT ONE OF THEM IS THAT IT TRANSLATES TO A VERY LARGE PAYMENT THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE FOR THE PAY AS WE GROW FEES. OKAY. YEAH. BUT THAT'S THAT'S ON OUR MIND FOR THIS. AND YEAH, THAT WILL BE PART OF THE PROJECT. OKAY. ALL THREE STORY WALK UPS. IS THAT THE INTENT? YES. AGAIN YOU KNOW THE CARRIAGE HOUSE UNITS ARE, YOU KNOW, TWO STORY A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT CONFIGURATION. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THE CLUBHOUSE BUILDING, WE'RE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT DESIGNS FOR THAT. WE'VE WE'VE DONE SOME SINGLE STORY. WE'VE DONE SOME TWO STORY THAT WILL NOT BE THREE STORY THOUGH. SO WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE. WELL I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. COMMENTS. YEAH. YEAH OKAY. ONE OF MY QUESTIONS IS WHAT IS THE DENSITY OF THIS GROUP OF APARTMENTS VERSUS THE ONES JUST ON THE OTHER. AND YOU CAN JUST BARELY SEE THEM ON THE WEST SIDE THERE, THE GRAMERCY APARTMENTS. WHAT IS THAT DENSITY COMPARED TO THE DENSITY HERE COMPARED TO THE DENSITY RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET? AND ALONG WITH THAT IS THIS DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT'S NEAR AS WIDE OF A SETBACK OFF OF THE ROAD AS THE APARTMENTS ACROSS THE WAY AND OR THE ONES AT GRAMERCY. SO YOU FROM THIS, IT APPEARS THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO PUT THEM CLOSER TO THE ROAD THAN WHAT THE OTHERS HAVE UP AND DOWN THE ROAD THERE HAVE HAD TO GO ALONG WITH OVER THE YEARS. YOU GOT SUGAR RUN RIGHT THERE, THE BLUE APARTMENTS JUST ON THE EAST SIDE OF. SURE, NEW ALBANY ROAD WEST AND. SO I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW THAT COMPARES, BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WERE ALWAYS TRYING TO DO IS MAINTAIN THE RURAL SETBACKS. AND TO ME, IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE YOU HAVE THAT. ANOTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS, DO YOU DO YOU KNOW THE SIZE OF THE GAS LINE THAT GOES THROUGH THAT EASEMENT ON THE DIAGONAL? OKAY. WELL, ONE THING I KNOW I CAN'T SPEAK TO IS I DON'T KNOW THE NUMBERS OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD FOR LIKE UNITS PER ACRE OR WHATEVER FOR ALL THOSE ADJACENT PROJECTS. I DON'T, I DON'T I MEAN, I KNOW THAT I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, THE APARTMENTS, YOU KNOW, HAS A LOT OF THREE STORY COMPONENTS TO IT. SO BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT ALSO WAS BUILT LIKE 25 YEARS AGO AND IT WAS MUCH LESS. BUT THE, THE. CONDOS JUST TO THE SOUTH OF IT THERE THAT YOU'VE WORKED OUT AN AGREEMENT WITH OR YOU THINK YOU HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH, THOSE ARE FOR THE MOST PART SINGLE, SINGLE FLOOR, AREN'T THEY? SO YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THREE STORY BUILDINGS OVERLOOKING THE SINGLE FLOOR. WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST, WHENEVER POSSIBLE, IS IF YOU'RE GOING WITH ONE, THEN YOU GO WITH THE TWO AND THEN UP TO A THREE, AS OPPOSED TO JUST HAVING SOMETHING VERY BIG OVER THE TOP OF IT. YEAH. AND SO THIS IS WHERE THIS IS WHERE I DID THINK IT WAS SOMEWHAT HELPFUL. I MEAN, I, I HAVE THE PLAN HERE THAT WAS APPROVED 4 OR 5 YEARS AGO. I WAS I WAS ON THE BOARD AT THAT POINT. AND I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THESE ARE THREE STORY BUILDINGS RIGHT HERE LITERALLY RIGHT ON THAT LINE. SO IF THAT'S THE CONCERN WE'RE WE'RE DEFINITELY IMPROVING THE CONDITION OF WHAT WAS APPROVED RIGHT NOW. SO I MEAN I THINK THAT'S RELEVANT FOR FOR THE DISCUSSION. YEAH. OKAY. OKAY. 
          ALSO WHAT I THINK IS RELEVANT FOR THE CONVERSATION IS AND YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE SIZE OF THE GAS LINE GOING THROUGH THERE. I BELIEVE IT'S 20IN. I CAN CONFIRM THAT. OKAY. 
          THAT'S WHAT I MY BELIEF IS THAT IT'S 20IN. WHAT ABOUT THE ONE ACROSS THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY? I THOUGHT THAT WAS A STANDARD LINE, BUT I CAN I CAN DOUBLE CHECK THAT. I THINK THAT IT MIGHT BE AROUND A 14 INCH ALSO. OKAY. AND TO TO THIS, THIS WAS THE ONE THAT'S RUNNING 
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DIAGONAL WAS THE ONE THAT WAS POINTED OUT TO US AS BEING BIGGER THAN, YOU KNOW, A STANDARD GAS LINE. IT'S IT'S MUCH BIGGER THAN A STANDARD GAS LINE. AND JUST FOR INFORMATION, I'VE MENTIONED IT WHEN WE DISCUSSED THIS LAST TIME FOUR YEARS AGO, THIS PROPERTY IS THE PROPERTY THAT I GREW UP ON. OH, WOW. THE THE GAS LINE RIGHT THERE, 20 INCH GAS LINE. IT HAD BEEN AN 18 INCH GAS LINE AND LONG, ABOUT SOMEWHERE AROUND 1960 TO 62. COULD HAVE BEEN AS EARLY AS 58. THAT PARTICULAR 18 INCH GAS LINE A LITTLE WAYS DOWN, LIKE IF YOU'RE FLYING A CROW, IT WOULD BE ABOUT A MILE, MILE AND A HALF FURTHER DOWN TOWARDS COLUMBUS. AT THAT POINT IN TIME, THAT GAS LINE LITERALLY BLEW UP AND IT SCORCHED A VERY LARGE, DEEP HOLE IN THE AREA. I DID NOT VISIT THE SITE MYSELF. MY DAD DID AT THE TIME, AND IT I REMEMBER BEING AWAKE AT 1:00 IN THE MORNING BECAUSE WE JUST GOT BACK FROM A HORSE SHOW AND WE HADN'T GONE TO SLEEP YET, AND MY DAD SAID, IS THAT A JET AIRPLANE? HE THOUGHT MAYBE IT HAD CRASHED AND ALL WE COULD SEE OUT OUR WINDOW WAS THIS PLANE THAT I THINK WAS GOING ABOUT 75FT IN THE AIR. WOW. I MEAN, IT WAS A HUGE BALL OF FIRE. SO I, I KNOW THAT THEY HAVE THE SETBACKS THERE AND EVERYTHING, BUT I AM CONCERNED ABOUT AND I HAD THE SAME OBJECTIONS WHEN THE LAST PEOPLE WENT THROUGH, BUT MY VOICE WAS NOT HEARD AT THAT POINT. AND BUT I FROM MY STANDPOINT, I FEEL THAT I NEED TO AT LEAST MAKE SURE THAT YOU ARE AWARE OF WHAT THE THE POSSIBILITIES WOULD BE AND THE 14 INCH ACROSS THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY. THEY PUT THAT IN SHORTLY AFTER THEY PUT THIS ONE IN. BUT THE THE ONE ON THE DIAGONAL, WHEN I WAS, OH, EARLY 20S, I WAS AT, AT THE FARMHOUSE THERE AND I DROVE IN THE DRIVEWAY, MAN, I SMELL GAS. 
          AND I WALKED OUT AND OUR HOUSE WAS ABOUT 120FT FROM THAT LINE. AND THERE WAS A LARGE PUDDLE IN THE AREA THERE WHERE THE GROUND HAD SUNKEN IN. WHEN THEY'D DONE THEIR CONSTRUCTION OF PUTTING LINE IN AND EVERYTHING. SO THE VERY NICE MUD PUDDLE. AND WHEN I WALKED OUT TO IT, I LOOKED IN. 
          THE PUDDLE WAS ACTUALLY BUBBLING WITH THE GAS COMING OUT OF THE GROUND, AND YOU COULD SMELL GAS IN THE ENTIRE AREA. WELL, OKAY, I KNEW THAT WASN'T RIGHT. I WENT IN, I CALLED THE GAS COMPANY AND TOLD THEM THEY NEEDED TO GET SOMEBODY OUT RIGHT AWAY, AND THEY RESPONDED TO ME WITH SAYING, WELL, WE'LL HAVE SOMEBODY OUT THERE WITHIN THE NEXT 24 TO 48 HOURS. I SAID, NO, YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE. AND THE PERSON ON THE PHONE DIDN'T WANT ME TO TALK TO ANYBODY ELSE. AND FINALLY, I WOULDN'T GET OFF THE PHONE UNTIL THEY LET ME KNOW OR UNTIL I COULD TALK TO SOMEBODY. AND I TOLD HIM WHAT WAS GOING, EXCUSE ME, WHAT WAS GOING ON. AND THEY CAME OUT WITHIN ABOUT 45 MINUTES AND CLOSED EVERYTHING DOWN FOR THE NEXT 48 HOURS, WHILE THEY REPLACED THAT SECTION OF PIPE. SO AND THAT WAS JUST NOT TOO MANY YEARS AFTER THEY PUT IT IN. SO I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH PUTTING APARTMENT BUILDINGS THAT CLOSE. I ALSO MADE THE SAME COMMENT WHEN GRAMERCY WAS PUTTING IN THEIR STUFF, BUT THEY WERE PUTTING BUSINESSES CLOSER AND SETTING THEIR APARTMENTS BACK FURTHER, BECAUSE TO ME, TO HAVE SOMEBODY SLEEPING AT NIGHT, IF SOMETHING LIKE THAT SHOULD EVER HAPPEN AGAIN, AND I, I CERTAINLY HOPE IT WOULD NEVER HAPPEN. BUT I'M ALWAYS CONCERNED ON THE SIDE OF SAFETY. AND I YOU HAVE NOT ONE, BUT TWO VERY MAJOR GAS LINES GOING ACROSS THAT SMALL PIECE OF PROPERTY, AND YOU HAVE THREE OF YOUR BUILDINGS BACKED UP AS CLOSE TO THAT PROPERTY AS YOU CAN GET, EXCEPT FOR THE PARKING SPACE. AND THE ONLY REASON YOU HAVE THE PARKING SPACE THERE IS BECAUSE THEY WON'T LET YOU PUT ANYTHING ON THERE. AND I THINK YOU'LL ALSO FIND YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO PUT ANY KIND OF TREES ON THERE AT ALL, PERIOD. BECAUSE WE HAD WE HAD ANOTHER LINE CROSSING OUR PROPERTY THAT THEY FINALLY TOOK OUT, BUT THEY CAME AND CLEAR CUT EVERYTHING BACK BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T GET IN TO EVEN MAKE REPAIRS ON THE. AND THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO DO AERIAL INSPECTION AS WELL. THE PIPELINE. RIGHT. SO YEAH. BUT SO TO ME, I DISAGREED WITH PUTTING APARTMENTS IN THERE TO 
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BEGIN WITH FOUR YEARS AGO OR WHATEVER IT WAS WHEN I WAS HERE. I'M JUST WANTING WANTING YOU TO KNOW THAT I DO HAVE A STRONG OPINION ON IT. AND I DON'T THINK FROM A SAFETY STANDPOINT IT MAKES A WHOLE LOT OF SENSE. BUT I WAS KIND OF OKAY WITH ON THAT PART OF IT BECAUSE PEOPLE WERE GOING TO BE THERE DURING EATING TIMES AND THEY WOULD AT LEAST BE AWAKE AND ABLE TO POSSIBLY GET OUT OF THE AREA IF NECESSARY. THE THE ORIGINAL GAS HOUSE, THEIR CORNER, THEY THEY HAD SOLD. MY DAD HAD SOLD A QUARTER OF AN ACRE, RIGHT, RIGHT ON THE VERY CORNER FOR THEM TO PUT THE GAS HOUSE IN TO BEGIN WITH. AND IT WAS A. THEN AFTER WE SOLD THE PROPERTY, THEY ENLARGED IT TO THE PART ON THE EAST. AND THEN A FEW YEARS AGO THEY THEN ENLARGED IT EVEN MORE. SO I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH GAS THEY'RE PUMPING THROUGH THERE AT THIS POINT. I KNOW THEY USED TO PUMP A WHOLE LOT, BUT I DON'T THINK THE LINES HAVE GOTTEN ANY SMALLER BECAUSE THAT'S THE MAIN LINE GOING INTO THE NORTHEAST SIDE OF COLUMBUS. SO I. YOU KNOW, IT MAKES YOU NERVOUS. I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. IT MAKES YOU NERVOUS. IT MAKES ME VERY NERVOUS. OKAY. AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAY, I'M I'M A FIRM BELIEVER IN SAFETY. I'VE BEEN AN AIRCRAFT MECHANIC FOR MANY, MANY YEARS. IT'S ALWAYS SAFETY FIRST. YOU KNOW, YOU YOU DON'T MESS AROUND WITH SOME THINGS. AND TO ME, THAT'S THE THING YOU DON'T MESS AROUND WITH. I WILL JUST IF I COULD ADD TO YOUR COMMENTS AND MENTION THAT THERE ARE AND I ASKED ABOUT PETROLEUM PIPELINE THAT IS PIPELINES THAT ACTUALLY MOVE LIQUID PRODUCT AS OPPOSED TO NATURAL GAS. WE HAVE ONE THAT RUNS RIGHT THROUGH FOREST PARK. THAT'S THE ONE THAT RUNS FROM HEATH ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE WEST SIDE OF COLUMBUS. AND MARATHON ACTUALLY HAS CONTROLLED IT FOR SOME YEARS ANYWAY. BUT THAT CAUSED ME TO DO A LITTLE RESEARCH ALSO IN PIPELINES, BECAUSE IT RUNS RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM MY HOUSE AND WHAT CAN GO WRONG, ETC. YOU MENTIONED YOU'RE IN CONTACT WITH THE CANADIAN OPERATOR AND OWNER OF THE PIPELINE. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE WOULD BE ANY VALUE OR WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR YOU TO ALSO BE IN TOUCH WITH THE OFFICE OF PIPELINE SAFETY, WHICH IS PART OF DOT. THERE'S AN AGENCY. IT'S ACTUALLY CALLED THE PIPELINE AND HAZARDOUS MATERIALS SAFETY ADMINISTRATION. IS THAT ALL RIGHT? IF I GIVE YOU A BUSINESS CARD, OF COURSE IT'S FINE. THAT'S FINE. I'D BE HAPPY TO EMAIL THAT TO YOU. AND THEN ANOTHER ORGANIZATION, WHICH IS A NONPROFIT CALLED P.S. TRUST PIPELINE SAFETY TRUST, AND THEY BOTH PROBABLY CAN OFFER YOU MAYBE SOME SUGGESTIONS, SOME INFORMATION ABOUT MITIGATION OF ANY KIND OF INTERFERENCE PIPELINE, ETC. SO I'LL BE HAPPY TO SHARE THAT INFORMATION WITH YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT IT'S GOOD TO BE AWARE OF THAT, ESPECIALLY AS HARD AS IT SOUNDS LIKE IT IS TO REACH THE GUYS IN CANADA. SO YEAH, NO, I MEAN, I APPRECIATE YOU SHARING ALL THAT. YOU YOU'VE GOT MORE HISTORY WITH THIS AREA THAN ANYBODY ON ANY COMMISSION I'VE BEEN TO FOR A PROJECT. IT DOESN'T MATTER WHERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. HE'S EITHER LIVED THERE OR HE USED TO DRIVE RIGHT? WALK RIGHT BY IT. I HAVE LIVED, SOLD THE LAND TO COLUMBIA. I HAVE LIVED IN THIS AREA MY ENTIRE LIFE. HE'S THE INSTITUTIONAL MEMORY OF THE GROUP. HE REALLY IS. SO, SO OBVIOUSLY SAFETY IS IS IS HUGE, RIGHT? I MEAN, I, I'M NOT AN AIRCRAFT MECHANIC, SO I CAN'T SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, BUT OBVIOUSLY THAT'S SUPER IMPORTANT TO US. WE IF I COULD SHOW YOU THE ATTACHMENTS THAT TRANSCANADA ENERGY HAS SENT US WITH THE PAGES AND PAGES OF THESE ARE THE REQUIREMENTS FOR, YOU KNOW, HEY, IF YOU'RE OPERATING IN THIS AREA, YOU CAN'T USE ANY OF THIS TYPE OF EQUIPMENT. IT NEEDS TO BE WALKED BEHIND EQUIPMENT INSTEAD OF, YOU KNOW, DRIVE OVER EQUIPMENT. YOU KNOW, THERE'S THERE'S REAMS AND REAMS OF THOSE TYPES OF REQUIREMENTS THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE HELD TO IN ORDER FOR THIS PROJECT TO MOVE FORWARD. YOU KNOW, I WOULD SAY THAT RIGHT NOW, THE BUBBLY HALL BUILDING IS LITERALLY, LITERALLY RIGHT ON THIS EASEMENT. I MEAN, IT IS RIGHT UP ON IT. I WOULD SAY, IF YOU LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, YOU GO SOUTHWEST OF HERE, YOU GO NORTHEAST OF HERE. YOU KNOW, YOU LOOK AT LOOK AT THE CONDO BUILDINGS RIGHT THERE. THEY'RE THEY'RE RIGHT ON THE EASEMENT. EVERYTHING AROUND HERE IS DEVELOPED RIGHT ON THE RIGHT ON THIS EASEMENT. AND SO, YOU KNOW, I YOU KNOW, I CAN'T SAY THAT WE'RE GOING TO SIT HERE AND SAY, HEY, EVEN THOUGH, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY ELSE, YOU KNOW, 82 FOOT WIDE IS THE WIDEST GAS 
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EASEMENT WE'VE COME ACROSS IN THE SITES THAT THAT WE'VE DEVELOPED. SO I THINK THERE IS I THINK THERE IS, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER IT'S IT'S IT'S NOT 200 FOOT EASEMENT, YOU KNOW, BUT IT'S DEFINITELY WIDER THAN, THAN THE STANDARD EASEMENTS. ONE OF THE CHANGES THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE WHEN WE COME BACK HERE IS THIS PAVEMENT. THAT'S RIGHT. HERE IS IS GOING AWAY OUT OF THAT EASEMENT, EVERYTHING IS GETTING PUSHED UP NORTH. SO WE'RE STILL GOING TO WE'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, PARKING, YOU KNOW, PARKING DRIVE PARKING AND THEN APARTMENTS. BUT IT'S ALL GOING TO GET PUSHED UP FURTHER NORTH SO THAT THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WHEN WE WHEN WE COME BACK HERE. SO SO YOU'RE PUSHING THE THE PARKING FURTHER NORTH. BUT IF YOU PUSH THE BUILDINGS FURTHER NORTH AND HAVE THE PARKING DOWN HERE NOT ON THE LINE BUT CLOSER TO THE LINE, WOULDN'T THAT MAKE MORE SENSE THAN TO KEEP PUSHING YOUR BUILDINGS CLOSER TO THE LINE, PUSHING OUR BUILDINGS CLOSER TO THE LINE? THE GAS LINE CLOSER TO THE. NO, I'M SAYING WE'RE WE'RE I'M SAYING WE'RE PUSHING THE BUILDINGS LIKE THIS. LIKE TO THE NORTH. RIGHT? YEAH. AWAY FROM THE LINE. OKAY, SO SO NOW THAT THAT DOESN'T CHANGE THIS BUILDING LOCATION RIGHT HERE THAT THAT'S STILL RIGHT THERE. BUT IT'S IT'S, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A WE'RE WE'RE WE'RE WE'RE DOING WHAT WE CAN HERE WITH THERE'S A LOT OF CONSTRAINTS ON WHAT CAN GET DONE HERE. AND I PROMISE YOU LIKE THE TC, I MEAN, WE WE'VE ALREADY GONE THROUGH SPECIFIC EQUIPMENT MODELS AND STUFF WITH OUR SITEWORK CONTRACTOR AND CROSS-REFERENCED THOSE WITH ADVANCED CIVIL DESIGN AND TC ENERGY, AND THIS IS JUST THE BEGINNING OF IT. THAT'S BEFORE WE EVEN SUBMITTED THEM A DRAFT SITE PLAN. WE WENT THROUGH ALL THAT STUFF. SO I DON'T I DON'T WANT TO MINIMIZE YOUR COMMENT. I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT LIKE THAT IS IMPORTANT TO US. AND I THINK WE HAVE SOME REALLY, YOU KNOW, TIME WARNER ADVANCED CIVIL DESIGN, I THINK VERY HIGHLY OF THESE OPERATED. HE'S OPERATED AROUND A LOT OF DIFFERENT STUFF WITH TRANSCANADA ENERGY. YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SAYING WE'RE GOING TO USE THEM, BUT BUT ADAM, ADAM KENDRICKS IS IS THE OWNER OF KENDRICKS, WHO WE'RE WORKING WITH RIGHT NOW IN GAHANNA AND WHO WE TRUST. YOU KNOW, HE'S HE'S THE ONE WHO WE'VE KIND OF CONSULTED WITH ON WHAT TYPES OF EQUIPMENT THAT WE TALK ABOUT WITH TRANSCANADA ENERGY WHEN WORKING IN THIS EASEMENT. SO I APPRECIATE ALL THOSE COMMENTS. I DON'T WELL, I JUST I JUST WANT YOU TO BE AWARE OF THE FACT BECAUSE THEY'RE PROBABLY NO ONE IN THIS ROOM OR A LOT OF OTHER ROOMS WOULD HAVE ANY IDEA OF WHAT, WHAT IS ACTUALLY UNDERNEATH THE GROUND THERE. 
          YEAH. AND EVEN IF YOU DID EVERYTHING RIGHT, AGAIN, SOMEBODY FROM THE MEDIA GETS A HOLD OF THE IDEA OR THE INFORMATION. THERE'S A PIPELINE RUNNING TO APARTMENTS AND THEN YOU NEED TO EXPLAIN IT ALL AGAIN. SO. OH, IT'D BE GOOD TO HAVE AN EXPLANATION IN PLACE AS TO I. YEAH. NO SUGAR RUN CONDOS ARE EQUALLY AS CLOSE AND ALREADY DEVELOPED. YEAH, THEY'RE RIGHT ON THERE. RIGHT ON THE. YEAH. RIGHT. BUT THE DENSITY IS NOT NEAR AS HIGH EITHER. YEAH. I MEAN THEY THEY HAVE THAT. THAT'S TRUE. I MEAN SINGLE STOREY IS CLEARLY NOT AS DENSE AS, AS THREE STOREY. I MEAN THEY ALSO HAVE SURFACE DETENTION, YOU KNOW, WHICH OBVIOUSLY LOWERS THE COST BUT DECREASES DENSITY. YEAH I THINK SO. YEAH. THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          YES. YEAH. I DON'T THINK I HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS AT THIS POINT. OKAY. WELL THIS IS WHAT YOU CAME HERE FOR MAYBE MAYBE MORE THAN YOU EXPECTED. BUT WE WOULD RATHER GIVE YOU MORE THAN YOU EXPECTED, THAN LESS THAN WE SHOULD. SO I APPRECIATE THAT. THAT'S THAT'S GREAT. I MEAN, IS THERE ANY I DON'T I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU KNOW, IT'D BE GREAT IF I KNEW LIKE, HEY, YOU KNOW. 
          THIS SEEMS REASONABLE OR LIKE, HEY, YOU'RE YOU'RE WAY OUT IN LEFT FIELD HERE. I KNOW IT'S NOT AN OFFICIAL VOTE, BUT WE'RE CONTINUING TO INVEST, YOU KNOW, TIME, EFFORT AND DOLLARS EVERY DAY WITH WHAT WE HOPE TO COME BACK TO YOU GUYS WITH. DO YOU GUYS THINK THAT WE'RE ON THE RIGHT PATH HERE AFTER WE MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS PER, PER THE, YOU KNOW, SHIFTING SOME OF THAT PARKING AROUND? YEAH, I'D RECOMMEND SOME A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, BUT SOME COMMUNITY MEETINGS AT LEAST THE NEIGHBORS AND TELLING THEM WHAT'S GOING ON BECAUSE THEY WILL BE VERY AWARE OF WHAT'S HAPPENING. AND I THINK THE SOONER YOU CAN GET OUT AHEAD OF THAT AND HAVE THAT 
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CONVERSATION WITH THEM, I THINK IT'D BE A CLEAR ADVANTAGE. OKAY. BECAUSE THOSE SAME CONDO UNITS ON HAMILTON ROAD AND THOSE FOLKS DIDN'T HAVE A CONVERSATION. NOW, THERE WAS A STORAGE UNIT RIGHT IN FRONT OF THEM ON HAMILTON ROAD. SO I THINK THIS WOULD BE PREFERABLE TO A STORAGE UNIT. BUT, YOU KNOW. THEY HAD NO WHEN THEY BOUGHT IT. THERE'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE DEVELOPED BEHIND THEM. AND I THINK YOU'RE ALREADY WORKING WITH COLUMBUS, OBVIOUSLY, ON THE REQUIREMENTS AND SO FORTH, BECAUSE WHAT WE END UP WITH IS, IS KIND OF THE CHECKLIST, THE CHECKLIST AND SO FORTH. BUT I KNOW THIS IS CONCEPTUAL AND HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW, WE'VE DEALT A LOT WITH OBVIOUSLY THIS AREA AND A LOT OF THE DEVELOPMENT IN THIS AREA. 
          BUT YOU KNOW, FROM MY STANDPOINT, IT SEEMS TO FIT WITHIN, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NOT BUILDING THAT RESIDENTIAL AREA ACROSS FROM A RESIDENTIAL AREA. I MEAN, IT'S IT'S THERE'S COMMERCIAL AND THERE'S MULTIFAMILY AND SO FORTH. SO IT'S NOT OUT OF THE REALM OF WHAT WE'RE WE'VE APPROVED FOR. YEAH. IT FITS IN SAFETY IS IMPORTANT THOUGH AND I APPRECIATE WE WOULD NOT KNOW THAT. YEAH I THINK TWO TWO OF THE THINGS ONE IS I'M GLAD MIKE BROUGHT THAT TO OUR ATTENTION. AND BECAUSE AND THEN AND THEN PAUL, YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, BUILDING A PARKING LOT ACROSS IT AND DOING THAT WITH WALK BEHINDS. I DON'T KNOW HOW EASY THAT'S GOING TO BE. BUT YEAH, THE OTHER THING THAT PAUL BROUGHT THIS UP OR DAVE DID, BROUGHT THIS UP WAS THE YOU KNOW, A LOT OF OUR DEVELOPMENTS HAVE HAD SOME SORT OF WATER MITIGATION, RETENTION TYPE PONDS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AND OBVIOUSLY THERE ISN'T ONE IN THIS PLAN. SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT WHAT THAT MEANS EITHER. YEAH. WE'LL GO UNDERGROUND. BUT THANKS. YEAH. THE WATER AREA THAT COMES DOWN FROM THE NORTH AND THEN GOES A LITTLE FURTHER TO THE WEST AND HOOKS AROUND UNDERNEATH THE THE CONDOMINIUMS THERE AND BACK DOWN AROUND LEADS INTO SUGAR RUN WHICH LEADS INTO ROCKY FORK CREEK. BUT THAT AREA, WHEN WE WERE GROWING UP WAS DECLARED A COUNTY DRAINAGE DITCH. AND NOW I WAS SURPRISED TO SEE THAT THEY ACTUALLY HAVE A SET BACK FROM IT, BECAUSE BEFORE IT WAS JUST A COUNTY DRAINAGE DITCH. 
          AND SO IT ALMOST LOOKS LIKE IF YOU WERE TO TAKE THE WIDTH OF THE THE DITCH ON EACH SIDE OF IT, THEY'RE ALLOWING MORE CLEAR SPACE THAN WHAT THEY ARE FOR THE EASEMENT FOR THE GAS LINE. 
          MIKE, YOU ASKED ABOUT THE SETBACK OFF OF CENTRAL COLLEGE I THINK YOU WERE REFERRING TO. 
          DO YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW WHAT THAT IS? I SHOULD HAVE THAT NUMBER OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. I'D BE LYING TO YOU IF I HAD THE EXACT NUMBER RIGHT NOW, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT THIS IS. YEAH, A THOROUGHFARE. I MEAN, THE SETBACKS THAT ARE REQUIRED HERE ARE GREATER THAN THE STANDARD RIGHT OF WAY SETBACKS. DAVE, I DON'T KNOW IF EITHER. WE'LL KNOW FOR WHATEVER COLLEGE IS EITHER 100 OR 140 FOOT. RIGHT. SO THAT WOULD BE EITHER 50 OR 60FT. OKAY. AND IS THIS ALSO IN MIKE, YOU KNOW ABOUT TITLE 34. AND NOW THE FASHION IS TO PUT THE BUILDING CLOSER TO THE STREET PARKING BEHIND AND SO FORTH. IS THIS POTENTIALLY A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES BECAUSE IT IS NOW A MODERN DEVELOPMENT, OR IS THAT MORE? IS IT GOING TO PRETTY MUCH BE COMPLIANT OR CONSISTENT WITH WHAT'S AROUND IT? DO YOU ENVISION IN TERMS OF SETBACK? SETBACKS? OKAY, THIS IS I'M SURE THE VARIABLES ARE NOT WILL BE ZONED IN PHASE THREE, RIGHT? IT IS NOT IT IS NOT CURRENT. SO ABOUT A YEAR TWO YEARS OUT. BUT IT IS NOT PHASE TWO OKAY. THIS IS JUST WHAT'S IT CURRENTLY THE VACANT LOT IS IT. WHAT IS IT ZONED. 
          AND THEN THE BUBBLY HALL IS THAT ZONED. WE HAD A SLIDE ON THAT. YEAH. FRONTAGE OF THE WEST IS THAT YOU'LL SEE MORE THAN THE SOUTH. THE THE OTHER AREA THAT SAYS AREA C IS PRESENT. THAT LIMITED AREA WHICH IS AHMED. OKAY. SO THE THE PRESENT THE CURRENT ZONING APARTMENTS IS NEXT TO OKAY, WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH THE BUBBLY HALL PLAN THAT GOT APPROVED, THE APARTMENTS TO THE SOUTH AND THEN DRIVE THROUGH UP ON CENTRAL COLLEGE FOR. I'VE HEARD THAT BEFORE COMMERCIAL RIGHT COMPONENTS OF THAT. BUT THERE ARE APARTMENTS IN THAT 
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AREA ON THE FLOOR. YES, THANKS. ANYTHING ELSE? NO, I YEAH, WE OUR GOAL IS TO RESUBMIT. I THINK FRIDAY NEXT WEEK IS THE DEADLINE FOR THE FEBRUARY MEETING. BUT THERE'S JUST A LOT OF THINGS WE ARE WORKING THROUGH WITH OUR DESIGN TEAM RIGHT NOW. SO I CAN'T PROMISE THAT WE CAN GET EVERYTHING DONE THAT WE NEED TO BY THEN. BUT WE WOULD WE WOULD REALLY LOVE TO HAVE IT IN BY BY NEXT WEEK. SO OKAY, WELL, WE'LL WE'LL BE HERE IF, IF, IF YOU DO YOUR PART, WE'LL BE HERE. WE'LL BE HERE. I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS GETTING HERE TODAY. I FELT BAD WHEN I SAW I WAS THE ONLY ONE ON THE LIST, BUT OH NO, WE WERE FINE WITH IT. AND YOU'RE GOING TO BE COMING BACK WITH RENDERINGS AND LIGHTING AND THINGS LIKE THIS. OR MORE SPECIFIC. YEAH, YEAH YEAH, YEAH, I CAN'T, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE OF THE SURROUNDING AREAS. YEAH, YEAH. WE'RE GOING TO COMPLY WITH ALL THE LIGHTING STUFF. SURE. WE DON'T HAVE A LIGHTING PLAN RIGHT NOW. SO TRYING TO GET THAT BY NEXT WEEK. YEAH. THAT'S WHAT I'M WORRIED ABOUT IS, IS THAT YOU GOT A LOT I MEAN A LOT OF TO, YOU KNOW, FOR US TO APPROVE, WE HAVE TO HAVE A LOT OF THAT IN PLACE, BASICALLY. OKAY. WE'LL NEED TO WORK ON THE REZONING APPLICATION ALSO. SO OKAY. THE PROCESS AND IF IT'S SOMETHING WHERE LIKE, HEY, WE'VE MADE THIS PROGRESS, WE DON'T HAVE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S TEN ITEMS ON THE CHECKLIST WE NEED FOR AN OFFICIAL APPLICATION. AND WE DIDN'T GET ALL TEN. BUT WE WE MADE SOME PROGRESS ON THIS. IS IT A GOOD IDEA TO COME BACK AND SHARE THAT UPDATE OR JUST, HEY, THIS IS YOU KNOW, IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DID LAST TIME. WE DON'T NEED TO GET TOGETHER AGAIN. WAIT TILL YOU GOT ALL TEN ITEMS ON THE CHECKLIST. LIKE WHAT? YEAH, WE WE DO THE BEST WE CAN TO, YOU KNOW, KEEP IT. KEEP IT MOVING. 
          YEAH. WE WE. YEAH. I MEAN, IF THERE'S NO MEETING, I'M SURE WE ALL HAVE OTHER OTHER THINGS TO DO. SO. OKAY, SO WHAT I, WHAT I WOULD SAY IS JUST, YOU KNOW, BEST FOOT FORWARD. YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO LOOK WE HAVE TO DECIDE BASED ON WHAT YOU HAVE. OKAY. YEAH. AND AND I DON'T SPEAK FOR THE BOARD, BUT WE HAVE DONE WE HAVE DONE APPROVALS BEFORE WHERE WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, GIVEN THE FACT THAT YOU'RE GOING TO CORRECT THIS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, IF WE HAVE EVERYTHING BUT THE LIGHTING PLAN, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU GUYS MIGHT SAY IT'S CONTINGENT ON YOU GUYS COMING BACK OR MEETING THE, YOU KNOW, WITH THE CITY OF COLUMBUS AND MAKING SURE THAT THIS AND THERE ARE ALSO OTHER STOPS ON THE WAY BESIDES US. WE DON'T AS WELL. WE'RE WE'RE NOT HERE TO HOLD YOU UP. OKAY. I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU EVERYBODY I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND YOUR. YEAH. THANKS FOR GOING EXPOSITION. IT'S INTERESTING. IT'S INTERESTING HEARING ABOUT BEVERLY HALL. YEAH, I WAS SHOCKED. YEAH. I HAVE TO ADMIT, I NEVER WENT WELL YEAH I DO I'M LIKE I SAID I'M GOING TO GO THERE JUST LIKE I THOUGHT IT WAS A GREAT IDEA. 
          LIKE YOU SAID FOUR YEARS AGO, YOU KNOW, BUD HALL THING WAS GOING ON THERE. AND IT'S NOT LIKE, WELL, IT'S AN INTERESTING CONCEPT, BUT I'VE GONE THERE PROBABLY TEN TIMES SINCE, SINCE THEN, YOU KNOW, SOMEWHERE THERE WAS ONE TIME WHERE I WENT THERE AT THE RIGHT TIME AND THE WEATHER WAS PERFECT ON A FRIDAY, AND I WAS LIKE, OH, THIS IS A PRETTY GOOD CROWD. BUT THEIR MAJORITY OF THE TIME YOU'RE THERE AND IT'S LIKE, OKAY, THIS DAYCARE BROUGHT THEIR KIDS TO COME PLAY ON THE ARCADES FOR A LITTLE BIT, AND THEY'RE THROWING PEANUT BUTTER SANDWICHES AT EACH OTHER, YOU KNOW, SO WE APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU DID. AND I KNOW MOSES HAD THE THAT THERE WAS, YOU KNOW, CAN YOU FIND ANOTHER USE FOR THIS BEFORE DEMOLITION DEMOING IT? IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU KIND OF TRIED A COUPLE DIFFERENT THINGS. YEAH. AND I MEAN, HEY, IF SOMETHING HAPPENS OVER, YOU KNOW. YEAH, WE'VE ALREADY GOT SHOT DOWN. WE'VE GOT SHUT DOWN, SHUT DOWN BY A COUPLE THINGS. BUT MAN, IF IF TRADER JOE'S KNOCKED ON THE DOOR, SAID, WE'D LOVE TO BE HERE, YOU KNOW, WE'LL FIGURE OUT A WAY TO GET THEM IN, SO. 
          WELL, IF IT MAKES YOU FEEL EVEN, SAY THAT NAME, BECAUSE THEN PEOPLE WILL GET THERE. YEAH. 
          WE'RE WE'RE LIKE, YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT. I DEFINITELY I DEFINITELY SAID ASK THIS GROCER IF THEY CAN GO IN HERE. YEAH. FOR EVERY SINGLE. YEAH. EVERYBODY'S LIKE OH NO. YEAH. 
          IT'D BE NICE TO HAVE A TRADER JOE'S. YEAH I SEE THAT. SO WE'RE I MEAN WE'RE TRYING TO FIND THINGS THAT WOULD BE AN AMENITY, LIKE IF WE JUST DEVELOPED THE WEST SIDE AND WE HAD A GREAT AMENITY ON THE EAST SIDE. WE DON'T. WE'RE GOOD WITH DEVELOPING 6.2 ACRES WITH APARTMENTS. IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE NINE. BUT BUT WE CAN'T HAVE HAPPEN IS HAVE THE ECONOMICS NOT WORK AND THEN WE DON'T HAVE ANY PROJECT WHATSOEVER. SO. WELL IF IT MAKES YOU FEEL BETTER TO WE APPROVED A FIRE STATION LAST TIME. SO. SO FOR WHAT THAT'S WORTH. OKAY. IT'S NOT ALL THAT FAR AWAY EITHER. YEAH, ACTUALLY, THE COLUMBUS FIRE DEPARTMENT WOULD BE CLOSER RIGHT THERE AT HAMILTON OR NOT. HAMILTON, HARLEM AND CENTRAL COLLEGE, YOU'RE GOING TO BE A 
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HALF MILE AWAY FROM IT. OKAY? OKAY. WELL THANKS. OKAY. YEAH. THANK YOU. THANKS. GO AHEAD AND ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR ADJOURNMENT. IF I COULD ASK, DO WE KNOW WHETHER WE'LL BE MEETING IN FEBRUARY? DO WE ALREADY KNOW WE HAVE CASES ON THE AGENDA? COLUMBUS DOES NOT HAVE ANY CASES AT THE MOMENT UNLESS WE RECEIVE A SUBMITTAL. I DON'T KNOW, THE DEADLINES HAVE PASSED YET. THE DEADLINES FOR SUBMISSION HAVE. WE'RE KIND OF EARLY IN THE IT IS KIND OF EARLY TO CALL IT. I JUST THOUGHT IF WE KNEW WE'D BE MEETING IN FEBRUARY, THAT'D BE FINE. OKAY. I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO ADJOURN. CALL SECOND SELLERS. ALL
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