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          PRESIDENT PRO TEM. THE ACCOLADES NEVER END. OKAY, WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, I'D LIKE 
          [I. Call to Order ]
TO CALL TO ORDER THE. WEDNESDAY, MARCH 11TH, 2026 MEETING OF THE NEW ALBANY SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD MEETING AT. WE'LL CALL IT. 632 CAN STAFF PLEASE READ ROLL CALL. MR. SCHUMACHER HERE, MR. BARNES HERE, MISS GALLO HERE, MISS SCOTT HERE, MR. KOCIAN HERE. 
          MISS KOPPELMAN HERE. MR. HERE, MISS GRIFFITH HERE, COUNCIL MEMBER HERE. AND WE HAVE A 
          [III. Action of Minutes:  January 14, 2026 and February 11, 2026 Meeting Minutes ]
QUORUM. THANK YOU. THE FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE ACTION MINUTES FOR JANUARY 14TH, 2026 SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD MEETING. DO ANY BOARD MEMBERS HAVE CORRECTIONS TO THE MINUTES? SEEING NONE, CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE JANUARY 14TH MEETING MINUTES? I MOVE TO APPROVE THE MINUTES. THANK YOU. I HAVE A SECOND I SECOND I'LL GIVE THAT TO BECKY. 
          MISS GALLO. YES, MISS KOPPELMAN. YES, MR. SCHUMACHER? YES, MR. BARNES. YES, MISS SCOTT. YES. 
          MR. YES. MR. BURA. OH, STATE MOTION PASSES. GREAT. THANK YOU. THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE ACTION OF MINUTES FOR FEBRUARY 11TH, 2026 SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD MEETING. DO ANY BOARD MEMBERS HAVE CORRECTIONS TO THESE MINUTES? GREAT SEEING NONE. CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE FEBRUARY 11TH MEETING MINUTES? A MOTION TO APPROVE. 
          THANK YOU. A SECOND. SECOND, I'M GOING TO GIVE THIS ONE TO JEFF. WE ONLY HAD THAT SELFISH MISS KOPPELMAN. YES. MR. YES. MR. SCHUMACHER? YES. MR. BARNES. YES, MISS GALLO. YES, MISS SCOTT. YES. MR. BURA. YES. MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR 
          [IV. Additions or Corrections to Agenda ]
CORRECTIONS TO THE AGENDA FROM STAFF? I JUST WANT TO REINTRODUCE TO YOU, STEVE MAYER. 
          AND WE DO HAVE ANOTHER STAFF MEMBER PRESENT FROM OUR SERVICE DEPARTMENT TONIGHT, TAYLOR. 
          SHE'S ONE OF THE ENGINEERS. SHE'S GOING TO BE ASSISTING WITH THE FRANKLIN SWOLLEN WATER PRESENTATIONS WITH ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE THAT STAFF COULD ANSWER. SO JUST WANTED TO INTRODUCE THEM TO YOU ALL. GREAT. THANK YOU. WELCOME. AND THEN I BELIEVE MR. CHAIR HAD AN ADDITION TO THE AGENDA. ARE YOU OKAY DOING THAT? THIS IS GOING TO BE A SLIGHTLY RAMBLING, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO TALK TO THE BOARD ABOUT A A TOPIC OF TREE PLANTING. AND THIS IS IN. IN AN EFFORT TO HAVE SOME INFORMATION TO TAKE TO OUR QUARTERLY SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY PARTNER GROUP FOR THE CITY. SO I'D LIKE TO JUST PITCH SOMETHING TO EVERYONE FOR CONVERSATION AND SEE IF THERE'S ANY INTEREST IN PUSHING SOMETHING TOWARDS THE COUNCIL IN TERMS OF SOME RESEARCH WORK. MORE TO COME ON THAT, AND I'LL ADD THAT AT THE END OF BUSINESS. 
          THANK YOU. YES. ALL RIGHT. NOW IT'S TIME FOR HEARING OF VISITORS FOR ITEMS NOT ON 
          [V. Hearing of Visitors for Items Not on Tonight’s Agenda ]
TONIGHT'S AGENDA. IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISHES TO SPEAK THIS EVENING? THANK 
          [VI. Business]
YOU. SEEING NONE, WE'LL MOVE ALONG TO BUSINESS. THANK YOU. CHAIR. MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. 
          OUR FIRST ITEM IS THE FRANKLIN SOIL AND WATER CONSERVATION DISTRICT STREAM MONITORING PRESENTATION. AND WITH US TONIGHT IS JOHN. YOU CAN APPROACH THE PODIUM AND HE'S GOING TO GIVE A PRESENTATION. AND THEN WE'LL HAVE SOME TIME FOR QUESTION AND ANSWER AS WELL. 
          SO I'LL PULL UP YOUR PRESENTATION FOR YOU. AND THERE SHOULD BE. IS THAT IT? YEAH. 
          THERE'S ARROWS TO ADVANCE. AND THEN THE LASER POINTER IS IN THE MIDDLE RED BUTTON. ALL RIGHT. I'LL GET THAT PULLED UP FOR YOU. I AM PINCH HITTING FOR JOSH TONIGHT. HE IS UNDER THE WEATHER. ONE FELL SWOOP. IF YOU NEED TO GET IN THERE. GET IT THERE. IT'LL BE LOUD FOR A SECOND. EVERYBODY CAN HEAR ME, RIGHT? YES. OKAY, SO WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT STORMWATER MANAGEMENT. NOT SO MUCH. WELL, IT IS STREAM MONITORING. IT ALL GOES INTO OUR STREAMS. SO IT'S MARCH FOR US. A LOT OF THE TIME IT'S SPENT COMPILING STORMWATER RECORDINGS. EVERYTHING FOR US IS DUE APRIL 1ST. SO WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING. THAT MIGHT HELP. JOHN REAL QUICK DO APRIL 1ST IS 
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THAT COUNTY REQUISITE STATE REQUISITE. SO EVERYBODY'S STORMWATER PERMIT IS DUE TO THE OHIO EPA ON APRIL. SO WE'RE JUST MAKING SURE. HOPEFULLY WE HAVE WE HAVE EVERYTHING DONE IN OUR OFFICE. EMILY WEBER IS YOUR MAIN CONTACT AND SHE HAS BEEN COMPILING EVERYTHING. OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. FROM ALL THE SOURCES THAT HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THE PERMIT OVER THE LAST YEAR. 
          THANK YOU. STILL NOT WORKING? I CAN ADVANCE FOR YOU. JUST GIVE ME A NOD. ALL RIGHT. SO A BACKGROUND IF I USE ACRONYMS. YOU GUYS DON'T UNDERSTAND. JUST INTERRUPT ME, PLEASE. SO THE NATIONAL POLLUTANT DISCHARGE ELIMINATION SYSTEM PRETTY MUCH ORIGINATED FROM THE CLEAN WATER CONTROL ACT BACK IN THE 1940S, AMENDED WITH THE FEDERAL POLLUTION CLEAN WATER ACT OF 1970S AND THEN NOW 1972 CLEAN WATER ACT. AND THEN OHIO FEDERAL EPA BEGAN PERMITTING DISCHARGES, WHETHER IT'S INDIVIDUAL DISCHARGES, INDUSTRIAL DISCHARGES, AND THEN WE CALL IT THE SMALL MUNICIPAL SEPARATE STORM SEWER SYSTEM DISCHARGES FOR THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY AND OTHER SMALLER MUNICIPALITIES. AND THAT IS BROKEN DOWN INTO SIX MINIMUM CONTROL MEASURES THAT I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT SOME DISCHARGE DETECTION, ELIMINATION. SOME OF THE OTHER ONES ARE GOOD HOUSEKEEPING, PUBLIC EDUCATION, PUBLIC OUTREACH AND INVOLVEMENT CONSTRUCTION. CONSTRUCTION. SO. SO EVERYTHING THAT NOBODY DOES VERY KNOWS THERE'S BEEN GOING ON SINCE PROBABLY 2004. I THINK THE FIRST GENERATION CAME OUT IN 2002, ARE NOW UNDER FOURTH GENERATION. BUT WE ALL HAVE A PLAN WHICH WE OUGHT TO SAY, RIGHT. HERE'S THE PLAN. THIS IS WHAT WE'VE DONE FOR OUR PLAN. THIS MANAGER. THANKS. SO FOR ILLICIT DISCHARGE DETECTION, ELIMINATION ORDER ID, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN ORDINANCE OR SOME SORT OF REGULATORY MECHANISM TO SAY, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T DUMP THIS INTO THE STORM SEWER OR, YOU KNOW, IF THAT DOES HAPPEN, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO FOLLOW UP ON IT? IS IT GOING TO BE A ZONING VIOLATION? IS IT GOING TO BE A MISDEMEANOR? GETTING INTO. PURPOSELY DUMPING THAT GOES INTO FELONIES. SO. 
          AND MAKING SURE YOUR POLICE OFFICERS AND EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT'S GOING ON, HOW TO ENFORCE THESE LAWS AND HOW TO ENFORCE, WHETHER IT'S ZONING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. SO ANOTHER IMPORTANT THING IS TO HAVE AN ACCURATE STORM SEWER MAP. I JUST GOT AN UPDATED COPY OF NEW ORLEANS TODAY AND IT IS WONDERFUL. SO THE TYPE SIZE DIRECTIONALITY AND THEN DEVELOP A PLAN TO DETECT AND ELIMINATE NON STORMWATER DISCHARGES INCLUDING ILLEGAL DUMPING WHICH IS COVERED IN YOUR ID PLAN, WHICH IS WHAT WE WORKED AT. YOUR CITY DEPARTMENT. I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT THE SCREEN THROUGHOUT FALLS AT LEAST ONCE DURING THE PERMIT TERM, AND THEN ALSO EDUCATING PUBLIC EMPLOYEES, BUSINESSES, PRETTY MUCH EVERYONE ABOUT THE HAZARDS. YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE THE CATCH BASIN, YOU KNOW, YOU SEE THE NO DUMPING EVEN IMPRINTED INTO THE METAL OF THOSE NOW. SO JUST CONTINUALLY EDUCATING EVERYBODY THAT THIS GOES TO THE STREAM. 
          AND IF YOU'RE DUMPING IN HERE, YOU'RE GOING TO BE DUMPING INTO THE STREAMS. AND THEN TERMINATION OF THE BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES AND MEASURABLE GOALS CONTROL, WHICH GOES BACK TO THE PREVIOUS SLIDE, WHICH WAS THE PLAN. SO WE WERE OUT DRIVING. THERE IS A LOT OF DATA WE COLLECT OUT IN THE FIELD. YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S, YOU KNOW, LAND USE MATERIAL. 
          WHEN I SAY DRIVER SCREENING, WE DON'T GO OUT UNTIL IT'S LIKE A 10TH OF AN INCH OF RAIN OR LESS THAN 72 HOURS BECAUSE THERE'S A STORM SEWER SYSTEM. IT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO CARRY ANYTHING BUT STORM WATER. SO WHEN YOU GO OUT AND FIND A FLOW DURING THESE DRY WEATHER TIMES, THEN YOU'RE GOING TO BE FOLLOWING THAT UP, FINDING OUT WHERE IT IS, WHAT IT IS AND WHERE IT'S COMING FROM. BUT, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE A LOT OF THE INDICATORS AND EVERYTHING THAT WE LOOK AT WHEN WE'RE GOING THROUGH THESE. SO SOME OF THE COMMON SOURCES CROSS-CONNECTIONS FROM SANITARY SEWERS, DISCHARGING OR FAILING HOME SEWAGE TREATMENT SYSTEMS, AUTOMOBILE MAINTENANCE OPERATIONS, FLOOR DRAINS NOT CONNECTED TO THE SANITARY, CONNECTED TO THE STORE, SPILLS 
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AND ACCIDENTS, INDUSTRIAL DISCHARGES. AND THEN YOU GET INFILTRATION AND INFLOW FROM SANITARY SEWERS. AND THEN THERE'S JUST YOUR OPEN DUMPING. NEW LIKE IN THE PAST 20 YEARS, WE'VE BEEN HITTING ON THE HOME SEWAGE TREATMENT SYSTEMS, ESPECIALLY THE OFF DISCHARGING OR AERATION SYSTEMS. BASICALLY, YOU HAVE A SETTLING TANK COME IN, YOUR SOLIDS COME OUT, AND THEN IT GOES TO LIKE AN AERATION CHAMBER AND THEN OUTLETS BEING THAT IT HAS MECHANICAL PARTS, IT HAS LOTS OF PLACES FOR IT TO FAIL IF YOU'RE NOT UP ON MAINTENANCE. 
          SO PARTICULARLY CEDARBROOK IS WHERE WE'VE DONE A LOT OF WORK. NEXT SLIDE. THIS MIGHT HAVE BEEN BACK IN THE EARLY 20 TENS, WHERE WE HAD A VOLUNTARY PROGRAM WHERE WE REPLACED WHAT WE CALL INSPECTION BOXES. SO HOME SEWAGE TREATMENT, IT GOES TO THE TREATMENT TRAIN COMES OUT BEFORE IT ENTERS THE STORM SEWER SYSTEM THERE. AND WE PUT BOXES VOLUNTARILY, I THINK ON THE GREEN, GREEN, GREEN PARCELS. SO YOU CAN GET A GOOD IDEA OF WHAT'S GOING INTO THE STORM SEWER WHEN WE WERE SCREENING THE OUTFALL, BECAUSE EVERY TIME YOU GO OUT THERE DURING DRY WEATHER, IT WOULD BE RUNNING. SO YOU WOULD BE TRACING THE ENTIRE SYSTEM. BUT THE CITY HAS 142 DISCHARGING SYSTEMS THAT DISCHARGED AND 124 NON DISCHARGING, WHICH IS LIKE YOUR LEACH FIELD, MOUNTAIN SYSTEMS, SPRING SYSTEMS. SO YOU KNOW WE YOU HAVE THE PLAN. IT'S IN PLACE. AND FOR DRIVER SCREENING WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING PROBABLY FOR THE PAST I THINK WE 20 YEARS NOW WE'VE BEEN SCREENING ALL THE OUTFALLS IN THESE HOME SEWAGEMENTATMENT SYSTEMS AREAS EVERY YEAR, ALONG WITH SOME OF THE AREAS IN THE BUSINESS PARKS WE'VE ADDED TO PRIVATE IN THE PAST TEN YEARS, EVERYTHING, ALL THE ALCOHOL IS GOING TO BE SCREENED ONCE PER PERMIT TERM. 
          THE PERMIT IS FIVE YEARS. WE'RE COMING UP ON A NEW PERMIT. IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE OUT, MAYBE MAY, AND THEN FINALLY THERE ARE OTHER SYSTEM OUTFALLS. SO. DO NOT GO DIRECTLY TO WATERS ESTATE. IT'S A BALL INTO A STORM WATER DETENTION BASIN. IF WE DON'T COME ACROSS THOSE WITHIN THE TWO PERMIT CYCLES, WE WILL GO AND SCREEN THOSE ONCE EVERY TWO PERMIT CYCLES OR TEN YEARS. SO, SO FAR, WHAT HAVE WE DONE? SO THE CITY HAS 410 MS4 OUTFALLS. SO THERE ARE THE CONCRETE PIPE OUTFALLS THAT YOU WOULD NORMALLY THINK OF, BUT THEY'RE ALSO DITCH OUTFALLS. 
          SO IF YOU OWN, OPERATE AND MAINTAIN IT BECAUSE IT GOES INTO WATERS IN THE STATE, YOU CONSIDER THAT OUTFALL. WHEN WE COME ACROSS TO DRY WEATHER FLOW, WE DO A LOT OF TRACING. SO THAT'S WHY YOU SEE A LOT OF CATCH BASINS, MANHOLES, CROSSOVERS, INLETS. EVERY YEAR IS GOING TO BE A LITTLE DIFFERENT BECAUSE WE'RE ONLY GOING TO BE OUT THERE AT ONE TIME. AND SO WE COULD BE TRACING UP DIFFERENT FLOWS, WHICH IS WHY WE RELY ON A LOT OF COMPLAINTS BECAUSE EVERYBODY THAT'S BEEN OUT HERE A LOT MORE, WE HAVE. WE ASKED STAFF TO FOLLOW UP IF THEY SEE SOMETHING UNUSUAL. BUT IN THE END, LIKE I SAID, 442 DISCHARGING SYSTEMS AND 124 NON DISCHARGING SYSTEMS, WHICH WE WORK WITH THE PUBLIC HEALTH DEPARTMENT ON. WE WE ALSO SEND OUT NOTIFICATIONS TO ADJACENT PARCELS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE SCREENING THAT AREA THAT YEAR. AND SO SINCE 2007, WE'VE DONE OVER 5000 SCREENINGS. WE FOLLOWED UP ON OVER 500 DRY WEATHER FLOWS, AND WE'VE COMMUNICATED MORE THAN 200 POTENTIAL DISCHARGES, WHETHER THEY BE INDUSTRIAL SEWAGE OR OTHER POLLUTANTS. THAT'S IT. QUESTIONS? SO I'VE ALWAYS BEEN CURIOUS. THIS HAS GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH TRASH. GARBAGE, EXCESSIVE ORGANIC MATERIAL GETTING BLOWN INTO STORM SEWERS, ANYTHING LIKE THAT. IT WOULD BE IF WE RUN ACROSS IT. THAT'S A SIGN FOR EXTRA OUTREACH. NEEDS TO GO IN THAT AREA. GOT IT. YOU KNOW, SO IT COULD BE USED AS A INDICATOR THAT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD NEEDS TO MAYBE HAVE MAYBE A WORKSHOP, SOME MAILERS SAYING, HEY, YOU KNOW, BY THE WAY, INCLUDE IT IN YOUR UTILITY BILL, YOU KNOW, DO NOT BREAK YOUR LEAVES INTO THE CATCH BASINS. GOT IT. IS ANY PART OF THIS INVOLVE TESTING THE WATER? LIKE I KNOW THAT IN IN STORM SEWERS, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF STANDING WATER GENERALLY, BUT THERE ARE POINTS I KNOW IN THE CITY WHERE PEOPLE HAVE THEIR PONDS HAVE INSTALLED OR WE HAVE IN THE PAST, YOU KNOW, WE NORMALLY WOULD TEST FOR E COLI SURFACTANTS, BUT THE FACT 
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THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR ABOUT 20 YEARS, WE KNOW THE AREAS. AND SO WE JUST KIND OF COME TO A PROBLEM AREA OR SAY WE'VE IDENTIFIED AN AREA, AND THEN WE WOULD USUALLY WORK WITH WHATEVER PARTNER WE HAVE. SO THE SYSTEMS ARE EACH TREATMENT SYSTEM WE WOULD CONTACT, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC HEALTH, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S BEING DONE RIGHT AWAY, IT'S USUALLY THE FIRE DEPARTMENT BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE THE BOOMS AND THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE EVERYTHING ELSE. I'M THINKING MORE MORE ALONG THE LINES OF GOLF COURSES, FERTILIZER. 
          THAT'S THAT IS A TRICKY ONE. SO YEAH, I MEAN, ESPECIALLY FOR NITROGEN BECAUSE NITROGEN CHANGES SO FAST IN NITROGEN CYCLE, YOU WOULD PROBABLY A LOT OF THOSE AREN'T OWNED AND OPERATED BY THE CITY. RIGHT. SO WE COULD ENCOURAGE THEM FOR VEGETATED BUFFERS AND FILTER STRIPS TO REMOVE THOSE NUTRIENTS BEFORE THEY GET TO THE WATER. BUT I HAVE NOT DONE ANY TESTING IN A WHILE. OKAY. AND FARMS, I WOULD IMAGINE. YEAH, I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THOSE NITROGEN INTERACT WITH THIS, BUT YEAH. IF YOU HAVE A CONSTRUCTION SITE, I WOULD THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE POLLUTANTS WOULD BE GOING INTO A NEARBY WATERWAY WOULD BE SOIL EROSION, YOU KNOW, FROM TRUCKS. AND THAT TYPE OF THING IS, ARE YOU GUYS MONITORING THAT OR SOMEBODY ELSE'S? SO THAT WOULD FALL UNDER, I DON'T KNOW WHO'S DOING THE CONSTRUCTION SITE INSPECTIONS FOR NEW ALBANY. SO THE CITY STAFF MONITORS THAT. SO WE REVIEW PERMITS BEFORE WE ISSUE OR AS PART OF THE PERMIT REVIEW, WE REVIEW THEIR CONSTRUCTION SITE SETUP. WE ALSO INSPECT THOSE AS PART OF THE OVERALL CONSTRUCTION PROCESS. SO THEY SHOULD HAVE LIKE OUTSIDE STRAW WATTLES TO PREVENT EROSION FROM LEAVING THE SITE. SO, YOU KNOW, THE RULE OF THUMB IS LIKE IF IT DOESN'T LEAVE THE SITE, YOU'RE OKAY. SECOND LEAVES THE SITE FOR PRETTY MUCH ANY SORT OF POLLUTION. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE STARTING TO DO IN ENFORCEMENT OR INVESTIGATION. ALL RIGHT. I THINK THE STATE MINIMUM, IF YOU'RE DISTURBING OVER AN ACRE OF LAND, THEN YOU HAVE TO GET YOU HAVE TO PUT IN STORMWATER CONTROLS. SO THAT'S WHY A LOT OF HOMES, RESIDENTIAL HOMES, YOU MAY NOT NECESSARILY SEE SOME. USUALLY THEY'LL DO BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES, BUT OR IF IT'S A WHOLE SUBDIVISION, THEN YOU'RE DISTURBING MORE THAN ONE ACRE, YOU KNOW, GROSS PROPERTY. BUT IF IT'S JUST SMALL LOT AND THAT'S LESS THAN AN ACRE, THEN THEY TECHNICALLY DON'T HAVE TO PUT UP ANY SORT OF STORMWATER, LIKE NETTING OR FENCING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. AND I KNOW THERE ARE SOME DE FACTO INSPECTION GROUPS, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THEY STILL EXIST SINCE BILL PASSED. YEAH. LIKE THE FRIENDS OF THE OLENTANGY, RIGHT? YEAH. FRIENDS. SO I KNOW THERE WERE SOME FOLKS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD GET, YOU KNOW, THEY WOULD INSPECT IT AS WELL. AND YEAH, I WAS DRIVING BY AND I FOUND, YOU KNOW, THESE. SO I, WE DO GET SOME HELP FROM COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT ARE OUT ON SITE AND LOOKING FOR THINGS THAT ARE. YEAH, I GUESS THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I WAS GOING WITH THAT BECAUSE SOMETIMES I GET EMAILS STILL FROM PEOPLE WHO, YOU KNOW, ARE SEEING EROSION IN THE STREAMS. SO IF, IF THE, THE CORRECT PERSON TO GO TO WOULD BE SOMEONE FROM THE CITY WHO IS, WHO'S DOING THAT INSPECTING, JUST TO GO BACK AND MAKE SURE THEY'RE DOING IT CORRECTLY. THAT'S RIGHT. YEAH. IF YOU SEE SOMETHING, I WOULD SEND IT TO THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT. SO THE CITY BUILDING INSPECTORS WILL GO OUT THERE. YEAH, CERTAINLY IF YOU SEE A SILK FENCE THAT'S KNOCKED OVER AS. COUNCIL MEMBER CHRIS MENTIONED. YEAH, WE DO GET A LOT OF THOSE FROM RESIDENTS THAT SEE THINGS AND LET US KNOW. IT'S HARD TO BE ALL PLACES AT ONCE. YEAH, YEAH. AND JUST IN GENERAL, AS PART OF EACH SITE'S PERMIT, BEFORE THEY EVEN BREAK GROUND ON THE SITE, THEY'RE REQUIRED TO GET AN NPDES PERMIT THROUGH OUR MS4. SO IT ALSO GOES THROUGH THE EPA. IS THAT RIGHT? THEY ALSO HAVE A PERMIT THROUGH THE EPA, AND THEY ARE REQUIRED TO DO THEIR OWN INSPECTIONS ON SITE AS WELL. SO THERE ARE ON SITE INSPECTORS AS WELL AS THE CITY REPRESENTATIVE INSPECTORS JUST. QUESTION DO THEY MONITOR FOR SALT, ESPECIALLY IN THE WINTERTIME? THAT IS UP AND COMING. IT HAS BEEN ADDED TO THE NEW PERMIT. SO YOU KNOW RIGHT NOW THEY'RE IN THE ENCOURAGING YOU KNOW TO LOOK AT OTHER ALTERNATIVES. BUT THEN YOU ARE ALSO, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC SAFETY IS GOING TO BE NUMBER ONE NO MATTER WHAT. SO THERE THEY ARE LOOKING AT THAT. 
          JUST ONE OTHER THING AS FAR AS EDUCATING THE PUBLIC, IS THERE ANY PLANS FOR THOSE NEW DUMPING THINGS ON THE SEWER OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, THAT THAT NEW DUMPING DRAINS TO OUR STREAMS? IS THERE ANY PLANS TO. YEAH, INSTALL THOSE ON SOME OF THE SEWERS? YEAH. SO THERE IS A SALT WATCH PROGRAM THAT WE'RE, THAT WE'VE BEEN, YOU KNOW, PUSHING OUT TO DIFFERENT 
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COMMUNITIES, EDUCATING, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT LANDOWNERS, PROPERTY MANAGERS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. SO IT DOESN'T TAKE AS MUCH SALT NEARLY AS WHAT YOU THINK IT DOES TO PUT ON YOUR SIDEWALK TO DE-ICE IT. SO YOU DON'T NEED THE TRACTION. YOU JUST NEED A LITTLE BIT OF THE SALT, YOU KNOW, THE ICE. ARE YOU SPEAKING TO THE NOTE? I WAS TALKING IN PARTICULAR, MY SECOND QUESTION ABOUT THE SONG OR JUST ABOUT THE NO DUMPING. MY SECOND QUESTION. SORRY. OH, THAT MIGHT BE TO STEVEN AS WELL. IS THAT I MEAN, I KNOW WHEN WE MOVED IN, THERE'S ONE WAS ONE IN FRONT OF OUR HOUSE THAT'S BEEN CHIPPED OFF BY ANY NUMBER OF PEOPLE DRIVING BY OVER TIME IS IF I WAS A HOMEOWNER THAT KNEW THAT I HAD A DRAIN OUT THAT WAS AT MY LOCATION, COULD I CALL AND GET ONE OF THOSE OR. THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. YEAH, WE GO AROUND ANNUALLY AND INSPECT ALL OF OUR INLETS AND MANHOLES. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I'M HAPPY TO INQUIRE ABOUT AND SEE ABOUT. YEAH. LIKE THE, THE LABELS FOR THE NO DUMPING. YEAH. AND INCORPORATE THAT INTO OUR, INTO OUR ANNUAL SERVICE MAINTENANCE PROGRAM. AND WE HAD, YOU KNOW, VOLUNTEER GROUPS DO A LOT OF IT TOO, ESPECIALLY LIKE SCOUTS WILL DO IT FOR CONSERVATION PROJECT DRAINS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SOUNDS LIKE IT COULD BE A POTENTIAL STUDENT OR A GREEN GUARDIAN. YEAH. 
          GREEN GUARDIANS OR HEY, YOU BOUGHT WE'LL BUY THE THE LABELS AND THEN YOU FAN OUT AND ARE WE DOING STICK THEM ON SOME COVERS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR JOHN OR FOR TAYLOR OR STEVEN REGARDING THIS? I, I HAVE ONE AND IT KIND OF GOES BACK TO THE, THE LEAF QUESTION. I FEEL LIKE, I MEAN, I LOVE OUR LEAF PICKUP PROGRAM. IT MAKES LIFE A LOT EASIER. YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO WRITE THEM TO THE BACK OF THE CURB. AND I DON'T THINK I'VE EVER SEEN A PILE OF LEAVES RIGHT TO THE BACK OF THE CURB. IT'S ALWAYS THREE FEET INTO THE STREET. IS THAT PROGRAM, AND I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF I LIKE THE WAY GOING DOWN THIS ROAD. I'M SURPRISED YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IT. I NEED TO ASK THE QUESTION. DO YOU THINK THE PUBLIC PICKUP PROGRAM IS DETRIMENTAL AND PUTS MORE LEAVES INTO THE STORM SEWER SYSTEM? I DON'T THINK SO. I MEAN, WHERE ELSE WOULD THEY END UP? ARE THEY GOING TO. I DIDN'T PAY HIM FOR THIS ANSWER. OH. I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD. OH NO, I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE DETRIMENTAL. YOU KNOW WHERE WHERE ELSE ARE THEY? ARE THEY GOING TO MULCH. I MEAN IT GOES INTO PUBLIC EDUCATION AND IT'S A SERVICE PROVIDED BY THE CITY. 
          IF YOU WERE TO REMOVE THAT SERVICE WHAT WOULD HAPPEN? THEY END UP THEY END UP THEY WOULD JUST BE HAULED AWAY, HAULED AWAY BY THE SAME PEOPLE THAT ARE BREAKING THEM AND BLOWING THEM INTO THE STREETS. YEAH, A LOT OF BAGS AND SOME PEOPLE'S NEIGHBORHOODS, THEY'D BE BLOWN INTO THE CREEK, WHICH WE WITNESSED JUST LAST WEEK. YEAH. THANK YOU. LOTS OF OPPORTUNITIES FOR EDUCATION OUT THERE. YEAH, YEAH, JUST BE CAREFUL. THAT'S A KIND WAY OF SAYING. THE ONLY OTHER THING I WAS CURIOUS ABOUT, BECAUSE IT IS IN SOME OF THESE NEIGHBORHOODS, THIS LARGE CONCRETE PIPES THAT ARE DUMPING INTO THOSE STREAMS, IS THERE NOT THE THE IDEA THAT THOSE SHOULD HAVE SOME SORT OF GATE ON THEM TO KEEP LARGE DEBRIS FROM GETTING INTO THE STREAM ON THE OUTLETS? YEAH. WELL, MOSTLY THE FORCE OF THE WATER IS GOING TO PUSH ANYTHING OUT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW. WELL, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT INLETS? NO. THE OUTLET? YEAH. SOME ARE GATED, BUT THEN YOU DON'T WANT SOMETHING IN THERE, LIKE, SAY, THE LEAVES, THEY GET DUMPED IN. IF YOU HAVE A GRADE AT THE END OF ONE OF THOSE LARGE PIPES, IT'S GOING TO EVENTUALLY CREATE A BLOCKAGE AND IT'S GOING TO BACK IT UP. SO IT'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING ELSE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE. KIND OF WHAT I WANT TO FOCUS ON IS, ISN'T THAT THE BEST EXAMPLE TO SHOW PEOPLE WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS WRONG, CAUSING THEM SOME PROBLEMS? YES. 
          ANYWAY, I GUESS THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE THE CASE. BUT YEAH, I MEAN, WE HAVE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, THERE'S A NUMBER OF ONES THAT ARE PART OF THE YARD. SO THERE'S A DEBRIS FIELD BASICALLY. THAT'S MY JOYFUL SUNDAY AFTERNOON PICKING IT UP. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU JOHN. ALL RIGHT. 
          MOVING RIGHT ALONG. OUR NEXT ITEM IS A POTENTIAL STUDENT LEADERS AND SUSTAINABILITY GRANT. DO YOU WANT TO GO TO THE DAIS. I CAN DO THAT. SO SHE'S GOING TO TAKE OFF HER BOARD 
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MEMBER HAT AND PUT ON HER STUDENT HAT AND SHARE WITH YOU HER POTENTIAL PROJECT. AS PART OF THE GRANT PROCESS, WE ENCOURAGE STUDENTS TO COME BEFORE YOU AND KIND OF VET THEIR IDEA, AND YOU CAN GIVE THEM FEEDBACK BEFORE THEY SUBMIT A FORMAL APPLICATION. 
          AND THEN ONCE WE HAVE THE FORMAL APPLICATION, IT WOULD BE SHARED WITH YOU TO REVIEW AND THEN FORMALLY APPROVE AT THE NEXT MEETING FOLLOWING THEIR SUBMITTAL. AND THEN IF YOU APPROVE IT, THEN THE PROCESS WOULD BEGIN FOR HELPING THEM WITH THEIR PROJECT. SO, OKAY, RITA, CAN I STAY HERE OR DO I GO OVER THERE? I THINK BECAUSE YOU'RE ACTING AS A BOARD MEMBER, WE WILL HAVE YOU GO TO THE NOEL. YOU SHOULD GO OUTSIDE. COME BACK. TAKE, TAKE YOUR TAKE YOUR JACKET OFF. SO YOU LOOK COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. PRETEND WE DON'T KNOW YET. ALL. OKAY. 
          THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. ON HERE. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S GOING TO WORK. OKAY. HELLO. I'M NOEL GRIFFITH, AND I AM WORKING ON MY GOLD AWARD FOR MY HIGH SCHOOL GIRL SCOUT PROJECT. AND I HAVE A POTENTIAL PLAN FOR AN ENVIRONMENTAL PROJECT THAT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE HAPPEN. I WORKED WITH MR. BARNES LAST WEEK TO KIND OF SEE WHAT WOULD BE MOST HELPFUL TO THE COMMUNITY, AND WE DECIDED THAT MAYBE THE GOAL SHOULD BE TO IMPROVE RECYCLING IN NEW ALBANY. 
          SO I WOULD LOVE ANY ADVICE THAT YOU HAVE OR ANY TIPS OR WAYS TO IMPROVE THE PROJECT, BUT I'LL GO AHEAD AND TELL YOU ABOUT KIND OF THE TIMELINE AND WHAT WE'RE HOPING TO DO. AND THIS IS A PROJECT THAT GIRL SCOUTS HAVE TO DO ON THEIR OWN. SO I WILL NOT HAVE A LIKE A PARTNER LIKE I DID LAST TIME. SO THIS, THIS MONTH I WAS I'M GOING TO PRESENT TO YOU AND I HOPE TO SUBMIT MAYBE MY IDEAS TO THE GIRL SCOUT BOARD TO FOR THEM TO APPROVE BEFORE I CAN GO FORWARD WITH MY PROJECT. AND THEN THEN I WOULD APPLY FOR THE LEADERS IN SUSTAINABILITY GRANT HERE AT NEW ALBANY. AND I WOULD LIKE TO ASK FOR LIKE 150 BOXES OF HEFTY RENEW RECYCLING BAGS TO HELP EDUCATE THE PUBLIC ON THAT PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE. AND I HAVE SOME MORE DETAILS ABOUT THAT, BUT I THINK 150 WOULD HELP ME, YOU KNOW, REACH MORE PEOPLE AND LIKE CONTINUE USING THOSE THROUGH NEXT YEAR IN 2027. SO THEN IF THAT GOES WELL, I WOULD LOVE TO. I WOULD LOVE TO GO TO THE FARMER'S MARKETS AT NEW ALBANY WITH THE SUSTAINABILITY BOARD IN JUNE AND JULY, OR JUST TO TEACH PEOPLE ABOUT THE HEFTY RENEW PROGRAM AND, AND TO GET MY PROJECT STARTED. AND ALSO IN THE SUMMER, I WOULD BE APPLYING FOR THE GRANT FOR SOME RECYCLING BINS TO PUT AT MARKET STREET AND BETHLEHEM. I MIGHT ASK, I HAVEN'T DECIDED HOW MANY WOULD BE GOOD, BUT I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, GO BIG AND SEE, SEE WHAT THEY GIVE US. SO THAT WILL BE IN THE SUMMER. AND I DON'T THINK THEY RELEASE THEIR LIKE GIVE THE MONEY OUT UNTIL JANUARY OR EARLY, EARLY THE NEXT YEAR. SO IN THE FALL I WOULD BE COLLECTING DATA AND WORKING WITH THE CITY TO TRY TO SCHEDULE, I GUESS, PICKUPS FOR THOSE RECYCLING BINS THAT WE WOULD BE PUTTING IN MARKET STREET. AND. AND THEN BY JANUARY, HOPEFULLY I WOULD RECEIVE THE GRANT OR FIND OUT ABOUT THAT. AND THEN IN EARLY 2027, WE, I WOULD HOPE TO PUT THE BINS WHERE THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO GO AND SET UP THAT WHOLE PROCESS TO MAKE IT EASY FOR EVERYBODY AT THE CITY AND EVERYBODY USING THE BINS. AND THEN IN THE SPRING, I WOULD 
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START EDUCATING PEOPLE ON IT. AND THROUGH THE SPRING, SUMMER AND FALL OF 2027, I WOULD LOVE TO HOST HOST RIDES TO THE RUMKI FACILITIES BECAUSE I REALLY ENJOYED THAT, THAT WE DID. AND I THINK IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'D BE A GREAT, GREAT WAY TO EDUCATE OTHER PEOPLE ABOUT RECYCLING AND HOW IT ACTUALLY WORKS. AND I THOUGHT THAT THAT WAS HELPFUL FOR ME AS LIKE A PERSON WHO LOVES THE ENVIRONMENT. AND IT MIGHT ALSO GET OTHER PEOPLE HOOKED ON RECYCLING. AND THEN THROUGH THOSE RIDES, I WOULD ALSO HOPE TO PASS OUT THE HEFTY RENEW BAGS TO THE PEOPLE WHO TAKE THE TOUR. SO IT'D BE A LITTLE BIT OF AN INCENTIVE. AND THEN MOSTLY JUST EDUCATE PEOPLE ON HOW RECYCLING WORKS AND THE BEST WAYS TO DO IT IN NEW ALBANY. I WOULD LOVE ANY INPUT YOU HAVE OR WAYS TO IMPROVE MY PROJECT. OKAY, I LOVE THE HEFTY IDEA BECAUSE SINCE I STARTED DOING THAT, I'M DOWN TO A LITTLE, JUST A TINY LITTLE BIT OF TRASH EVERY WEEK. ARE YOU PLANNING TO YOU YOU MENTIONED THE FARMERS MARKET. YOU TALKED ABOUT SO MANY DIFFERENT THINGS. 
          I'M TRYING TO NARROW YOUR FOCUS AND TO WHAT AFFECTS US BECAUSE YOU'RE MENTIONING A GRANT AS WELL. YES. SO FOR US IT'S THE HEFTY BUYING BOXES OF BAGS. AND ARE YOU GOING TO BE PRINTING SOMETHING TO GO WITH THAT, TELLING PEOPLE WHAT THEY CAN PUT IN THERE? ABSOLUTELY, DEFINITELY. I THINK THE BIG A BIG PART OF THAT WOULD BE EDUCATION AND MAKING IT AS EASY FOR PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE. SO DEFINITELY A HANDOUT. I WOULD TRY TO, YOU KNOW, GIVE THEM ALL THE INFORMATION THEY NEED TO GO FORWARD WITH THE HEFTY RENEW. SO THAT WOULD DEFINITELY BE IT REALLY IS THE EASIEST THING EVER. YES, BUT JUST A LIST. WHAT SHOWING, YOU KNOW, SHOWING WHAT PEOPLE CAN PUT IN THERE. WE, WE DID STALL AT THE FARMER'S MARKET AND THAT WAS THE ONE THING VERY FEW PEOPLE THAT I MENTIONED IT TO KNEW ABOUT IT. YEAH. AND THEY WERE ACTUALLY EXCITED ABOUT IT. SO I, I'M, I'M ALL ON BOARD WITH GETTING THAT OUT THERE. YEAH. 
          FOR SURE. I'M SORRY. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ORANGE BAGS. YES. OKAY. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE. YES. YOU KNOW THE ORANGE BAGS. YES. AND I DON'T KNOW IF I WOULD HAVE TO ASK FOR FUNDS FOR LIKE, THE BUS RIDES IF NEW ALBANY WAS GOING TO HELP, LIKE MAYBE PROVIDE THE BUSSES. I DON'T KNOW IF I WOULD NEED FUNDS FOR THAT OR NOT. IN MY GRANT, BUT I KNOW WE WOULD PROBABLY DISCUSS. YEAH. SO I THINK WE WILL NEED TO FIGURE OUT TIMING OF EVERYTHING. SO IF YOU WERE TO APPLY FOR 2026 FUNDS, YOUR PROJECT FOR THOSE FUNDS NEEDS TO BE COMPLETED BEFORE THE END OF THIS YEAR. SO ANYTHING FOR NEXT YEAR WOULD GO, WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO FALL UNDER THIS GRANT CYCLE. YEAH. SO I THINK THAT WE COULD DEFINITELY TALK MORE ABOUT WHAT YOU WANT TO DO WITH THE BAGS. AND WE DO HAVE A COUPLE TABLES RESERVED AT THE FARMER'S MARKET. THERE'S ONE IN JUNE AND ONE IN AUGUST. UNFORTUNATELY, WE COULDN'T GET ANY FOR JULY. SO WE WILL NEED TO PROBABLY WORK OUT THE DETAILS FOR TIMING OF EVERYTHING. ABSOLUTELY, YEAH. 
          WOULD I BE ABLE TO APPLY FOR ANOTHER GRANT NEXT YEAR FOR THOSE, OR WOULD THAT JUST BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD CONTINUE AFTERWARD FOR THE RIDES? YES. SO JUST TO CLARIFY, NO, YOU'RE YOU'RE IMAGINING DOING EXACTLY WHAT WE DID, TAKING ONE OF THE SHUTTLE BUSSES, PRETTY MUCH ORGANIZING IT AND THEN GOING DOWN THERE, DOING THE TOUR AND THEN COMING BACK. YEAH. AND LIKE STUDENT FOCUS, LIKE HAVING YOUNGER OR IS IT JUST OPEN TO. I WAS THINKING MORE OF A COMMUNITY THING THAT ANYBODY'S WELCOME. I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE A LOT OF STUDENTS THERE, BUT IF THEIR PARENTS WANT TO COME ALONG, IF SOME COMMUNITY MEMBERS WANT TO COME, WE COULD FIGURE THAT OUT FOR SURE. OKAY, SO I GUESS I THINK WOULD WE WOULD THAT JUST BE ROLLED INTO A CITY COST OR WOULD LIKE OBVIOUSLY WE DRIVER AND TIME AND ALL THAT WOULD WE HAVE TO ALLOCATE PART OF THE GRANT TO THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY, ESSENTIALLY TO COVER THE COST FOR THE SHUTTLE TO GO DOWN AND SPEND THE TIME THERE AND COME BACK? I THINK SO, YEAH. SO THAT 
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WOULD JUST BE LIKE A CITY SERVICE NUMBER. THAT WOULD BE A LINE ITEM IN HER GRANT THAT I THINK. YES. OKAY. BECAUSE I, I'M ENVISIONING THAT AS ALMOST LIKE AN EVENT, LIKE, YOU KNOW, LIKE A5K RACE, YOU HAVE TO HAVE CITY SERVICE SO THAT THEY HAVE TO, EVEN THOUGH SHE HAS A GRANT, BUT IT'S, IT'LL BE AN INTERNAL PAYMENT, I THINK, TO THAT DEPARTMENT. BUT I THINK THAT SHOULD BE CAPTURED IN HER GRANT APPLICATION FOR MAYBE WE CARVE OUT LIKE WE DETERMINE WHAT IT'S GOING TO COST FOR TWO, TWO TRIPS, TWO EVENTS, AND THEN PLUG THAT IN AND THEN WE CAN SEE WHAT THE DATES ARE, RIGHT, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. AND THEN. THE TIMING WISE FOR 2026 FUNDS THAT WOULD NEED TO BE THIS YEAR INSTEAD OF NEXT YEAR. SO I GUESS IT'S UP TO THE BOARD TO DETERMINE WHETHER. YOU KNOW, PERHAPS. IF YOU COULD DO THE GRANT. AND LIKE PHASE ONE AND THEN PHASE TWO. SO 2026 WOULD BE PART ONE. AND THEN NEXT YEAR, IF YOU WOULD BE WILLING TO DO PHASE 2 IN 2027 OUT OF THE 2020, ASSUMING THAT COUNCIL APPROVES THIS PROGRAM FOR 2027 AS PART OF THE BUDGET, I DON'T KNOW. OBVIOUSLY, A BIG CHUNK OF THIS WILL HAPPEN THROUGH THE SUMMER AT THE FARMER'S MARKET. ARE YOU THINKING LIKE TRYING TO DO THE TRIPS TO THIS? LIKE WITH THE MOMENTUM FROM THE FARMER'S MARKET, DO IT IN LIKE AUGUST OR SEPTEMBER OR WAIT UNTIL NEXT SCHOOL YEAR? I DEFINITELY THAT WOULD BE NEXT SCHOOL YEAR, I GUESS. YEAH, I DEFINITELY THOUGHT ABOUT IT BECAUSE THAT WOULD KIND OF ALLEVIATE SOME OF THAT GAP IN BETWEEN THE TWO STEPS OF THE GOLD AWARD. BUT I ALSO THINK THAT I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO ESTABLISH THE BINS UNTIL NEXT SPRING ISH. AND I WOULD LOVE FOR THE BUS RIDES TO BE A WAY TO TELL PEOPLE ABOUT THOSE. I'M DEFINITELY LIKE UP FOR, YOU KNOW, SWITCHING THAT AROUND, BUT I DEFINITELY WANT THE BINS TO LIKE, YOU KNOW, BE A BIG THING TO LIKE GET EVERYBODY'S, YOU KNOW, APPROVAL ON THAT AND SPREAD THE WORD ABOUT THAT. OKAY. SO YEAH, I THINK APPLY FOR WHAT WE THINK YOU CAN DO THIS YEAR WITH THIS ONE. AND THEN IT COULD BE A WHOLE SEPARATE APPLICATION NEXT YEAR. YEAH. SO YOU ASKED ME FOR 150 BOXES OF THE BAGS. YES. I'M GOING TO THROW OUT ANOTHER SUGGESTION. YEAH. I WOULD ALSO INCLUDE WITH THAT THOSE BOXES, A NEW INDIVIDUAL 30 GALLON CONTAINER THAT THE BAGS WOULD BE PLACED INTO. MOST HOMEOWNERS NOW HAVE TWO BINS IN THEIR KITCHEN. TRASH AND RECYCLING. YOU THROW ANOTHER BAG IN THERE AND IT'S LIKE, WELL, WHERE DO I PUT THIS AND WHAT KIND OF CONTAINER? I KNOW AT HOME I GOT A BIN AND IT'S OVERFLOWING BECAUSE IT'S NOT THE RIGHT SIZE. SO IF YOU CAN MAKE THE BAG FIT TO THE BIN SO THAT IT CAN GO IN A GARAGE OR IN A CLOSET OR WHATEVER, SO IT'S EASIER THAN YOU GIVING THEM THE PACKAGE DEAL. SORT OF LIKE THE, THE COMPOSTING WHERE YOU GIVE THEM THE FIVE GALLON AND THE, OF THE DECOMPOSABLE BAGS. YEAH. SAME CONCEPT, YOU KNOW. YEAH. AND THEN ON THAT BIN, THE 30 GALLON BIN, I THINK THAT'S THE SIZE. I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY. THEN YOU CAN PUT THE INSTRUCTIONS ON IT ON THE BENCH AND STICKER SO THAT IT'S ALWAYS THERE. YOU KNOW, IT'S A COMPLEMENTARY STUDY OF THE ALBANY. PLEASE PUT THIS IN THIS. IT'S PROHIBITED. THEN THAT'S ALWAYS THERE FOR THEM. THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. YEAH. SO AND THEN WHEN IT COMES TO YOUR FARMER'S MARKET, THE THING I THINK THAT PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND IS WHAT HAPPENS AFTER THEY PUT IT IN THERE. 
          YEAH. SO IF YOU CREATE A STORYBOARD OF FROM YOUR HOUSE IN THE TRUNK TO THE RECYCLING FACILITY GETS SORTED OUT FROM THE RECYCLING FACILITY, IT GETS BAILED OR WHATEVER, IT HAPPENS. 
          AND THEN WHERE IT GOES FINALLY, AND WHAT'S THE FINAL END USE, RIGHT? THAT WILL KIND OF COMPLETE THE WHOLE STORY VERSUS I THROW THIS OUT. I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT GOES, HONESTLY. NOW I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT STUFF GOES, BUT I KNOW IT'S BEING REUSED, RECYCLED SOMEHOW. YEAH. 
          EVEN IF YOU DID A QUICK VIDEO USING YOUR IPHONE TO BRING YOU KNOW, AWESOME TOO. YEAH, I,U LIKE THAT IDEA. THAT WAS MY QUESTION. ALSO, I DO THE ORANGE BAGS. IT'S SOMEWHAT CONFUSING 
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TO DECIDE WHAT GOES IN THERE AND WHAT DOESN'T GO IN THERE. AND THEN I ALWAYS ASK, WHAT DOES RUMKI DO WITH THIS? IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE THEY JUST DON'T WANT IT IN WITH THE RECYCLING AND THEN THEY JUST THROW IT OUT. BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S TRUE. YEAH, THAT WOULD BE A GOOD WAY. LIKE IF I HAVE THAT STORYBOARD TO, YOU KNOW, MAKE IT LIKE FULL CIRCLE. 
          YEAH, EXACTLY. FOR THEM. YEAH. GOOD IDEA. YES. I WAS JUST GOING TO THROW OUT THE IDEA THAT YOU'RE USING SOMEBODY THAT'S GOT A BRANDED PRODUCT. SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE ALREADY DONE THIS, BUT REACHING OUT TO HEFTY, YOU MIGHT ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO GET SOME SUPPORT FROM THEM DIRECTLY SINCE YOU'RE PROMOTING THEIR PRODUCT. AND THEN I WOULD IMAGINE THAT RUMKI WOULD BE A GREAT RESOURCE TO BE ABLE TO USE TO DO SOME OF THESE THINGS, WHETHER IT'S A STORYBOARD OR MAYBE THEY MIGHT ALREADY HAVE SOME MATERIALS PULLED TOGETHER TO KIND OF DO. I KNOW THAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING THIS YOURSELF? BUT YEAH, YOU DON'T HAVE TO REINVENT THE WHEEL NECESSARILY, RIGHT? I LIKE THAT TOO. AND THEN I DID WANT TO GET BACK BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I THINK YOU AND I HEARD THIS, I WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE'S ON THE SAME PAGE THAT IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'VE GOT A REALLY BIG PROJECT, POTENTIALLY WITH DIFFERENT PHASES AND ELEMENTS TO IT. SO I THINK IT'S FINE TO PRESENT MAYBE LIKE I'M DOING THIS WHOLE THING. HERE'S WHAT I'M SEEKING FUNDING FOR THIS YEAR. I'VE GOT ANOTHER THING THAT I'M DOING ANOTHER TRANCHE OF FUNDING. I'M TRYING TO DO SOMETHING ELSE. 
          AND THEN I'VE GOT A LATER KIND OF IDEA. AND I THINK PHASE ONE, PHASE TWO. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. 
          MAKE IT MORE CHEWABLE. YEAH, YEAH. WELL I THINK IT'S EASIER FOR US BECAUSE IT WILL GET CONFUSING IF WE'RE LIKE, WE'RE TRYING TO FUND THIS IN OVER A TWO YEAR PERIOD. AND YEAH, IT'S GONNA GET DICEY. I THINK FROM OUR STANDPOINT, I UNDERSTAND THAT. YEAH. FOR SURE. THE, THE OTHER THING WAS, AND MAYBE WE'LL TALK ABOUT THIS MORE WHEN YOU DO THE PRESENTATION RECYCLING BINS, YOU'RE TRYING TO BUY WITH A GRANT TO PUT IN CITY LOCATIONS, CITY OWNED LOCATIONS. YES. CORRECT. BECAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING WE WANT SOMEONE DOING AS OPPOSED TO MAYBE PRESENTING A PRESENTATION TO HAVE THE CITY PURCHASE. WELL, AGAIN, I'LL FILE THIS. I'VE GOT TO ASK A QUESTION. I DON'T KNOW IF I WANT THE ANSWER TO. RIGHT. AND A LOT OF OUR PUBLIC PARKS, WE DO HAVE DUAL TRASH CANS AND ONE SAYS TRASH AND THE OTHER SAYS RECYCLING. ARE WE ACTUALLY RECYCLING THE RECYCLING PART OF THOSE TRASH CANS RIGHT NOW? AS FAR AS I KNOW, WE ARE. OKAY, I DID IT AGAIN. I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH PEOPLE EVEN PAY ATTENTION AND IF THEY ARE USING THEM CORRECTLY, BUT WE DO HAVE, YOU KNOW, ROSE RUN A LOT OF THE POCKET PARKS. WE'VE GOT THE TWO TRASH CAN SYSTEM NOW OUT THERE. SO I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A QUESTION OF EDUCATION, GETTING PEOPLE TO USE THOSE CORRECTLY. IT MIGHT BE REDUNDANT TO ACTUALLY PLACE JUST RECYCLING BINS IN THOSE AREAS. YEAH. THAT'S FAIR. WE'VE CAPTURED THAT. I WOULD LIKE TO CONFIRM IT BECAUSE I KNOW IN A LOT OF THEM WE DON'T PICK UP. I THINK WE PROBABLY DO IN ROSE RUN, BUT LIKE THE POCKET PARKS, LIKE, YOU KNOW, RASTER FENCE THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ONE THERE BY THE POND. I THINK OHIO EQUITY SAYS THAT. YEAH, YEAH, IT COULD BE REAL SURPRISED IF OHIO EQUITIES WAS BEING DILIGENT ABOUT RECYCLING ONE BAG VERSUS THE OTHER. YEAH. I'M SURE WE'RE RECYCLING WHAT IS RECYCLABLE OR, YOU KNOW, IN PUTTING THOSE IN THE RIGHT COLLECTION BINS. BUT I DON'T THINK LIKE SORTING THROUGH TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE ARE PUTTING THE RIGHT THINGS IN THE RIGHT BINS OR JUST TRUSTING PEOPLE TO DO THE RIGHT THING. 
          YEAH, THAT'S AS LONG AS, YEAH, THE BAGS ARE GOING TO THE SEPARATE PLACES. YEAH. BUT I'M CURIOUS BECAUSE I MEAN, I'VE WITNESSED THE GUYS PULL UP IN THE TRUCK AND THEY'RE PULLING THEM OUT. IT GOES IN THE BACK OF THE TRUCK. I DON'T I MEAN, AGAIN, IF PEOPLE MIX THEM, ARE THEY JUST DEFAULTING TO THROWING THEM UP ALL THE TRASH? AND I WAS ALSO CURIOUS BECAUSE WHERE DOES THAT GET US ACCUMULATED? SO I BELIEVE WE HAVE LARGE LIKE DUMPSTERS ESSENTIALLY AT THE SERVICE FACILITY. AND AS PART OF OUR, OUR CONTRACT WITH RUMPKE, THEY COME AND PICK THAT UP. GOT IT. SO THEY'RE NOT DIFFERENT COLORED BAGS OR SOMETHING. SO THAT YEAH, THAT IT'S MORE FOR THE STAFF KIND OF EDUCATION ON THE RECYCLING BINS. YEAH, YEAH. 
          I THINK WHEN NICOLE, WHEN NOELLE AND I WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IF YOU GO TO UPTOWN WESTERVILLE, THEY HAVE A TRASH BIN AND A RECYCLING BIN RIGHT NEXT TO IT, AND IT'S GOT THE CIRCLE. YOU KNOW, IF YOU WOULD ONLY BE PUTTING CANS OR BOTTLES INTO IT. 
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AND IT'S I MEAN, YOU KNOW, OURS ARE MARKED TRASH RECYCLING. BUT TO ME, IT SEEMED LIKE UNLESS YOU'RE REALLY PAYING ATTENTION, I'M GUESSING A LOT OF PEOPLE AREN'T NECESSARILY TRULY RECYCLING. YEAH. I DON'T KNOW HOW TO MY QUESTION IS THE SAME THING. LIKE HOW DO WE CONFIRM, LIKE, ARE PEOPLE REALLY RECYCLING? IS IT REALLY BEING PICKED UP? SO THAT'S SORT OF A SEPARATE DISCUSSION MAYBE, I GUESS, BUT MAYBE IF IT WERE EVEN, YOU KNOW, REPLACING, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S SOME WAY TO REPLACE THE LID ON THOSE THINGS. SO IT HAD A MORE, YEAH, SOME USER FRIENDLY OR SOMETHING I WAS LOOKING AT OR I DON'T KNOW HOW ROMNEY WOULD LIKE THIS, BUT LIKE BLUE SO THAT IT DISTINGUISHES LIKE THE BLACK VERSUS THE BLUE. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT, BUT SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, REALLY DISTINGUISHED. OH, AN AMAZING IDEA. IS IT NEW ALBANY BLUE? UNFORTUNATELY, WHAT YOU I MEAN, YOU'RE WALKING INTO LIKE THERE'S A STORY BEHIND WHY WE HAVE WHAT WE HAVE, I THINK. AND YEAH, THERE ARE BIGGER, BIGGER PEOPLE THAT NEED TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT CHANGING. THAT'S WHY I JUST DIDN'T WANT YOU TO GET YOUR HEART SET ON. I'M GOING TO GO DO THIS IN PUBLIC SPACES. LIKE YOU'RE GOING TO HIT A BRICK WALL PRETTY QUICK AT SOME POINT. YEAH, I CAN SEE THAT. YEAH. THAT'S OKAY. YEAH, I UNDERSTAND WE MIGHT HAVE SETBACKS, BUT THAT'S OKAY. I CAN GO AHEAD. MINE IS LIKE A NEW QUESTION APPEARS. I'M JUST GOING TO PIGGYBACK OFF PETE'S COMMENT JUST REAL QUICK. I DO IF IF WE DON'T WANT TO GO THE ROUTE OF ALL NEW CONTAINERS, I DO LIKE THE, THE IDEA OF WHETHER WE, I DON'T KNOW, AT LEAST I THINK WE COULD PROBABLY JUST DIFFERENTIATE THE THE LID TO MAKE IT MORE DIFFICULT TO. JUST BECAUSE I THINK RIGHT NOW THEY ARE IDENTICAL. OTHER THAN THE LITTLE STICKER THAT SAYS WINDSOR RECYCLING ONE'S TRASH. SO, YOU KNOW, WE COULD DIFFERENTIATE. AND THAT COULD BE PART OF THE PROJECT WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE KIND OF GO OUT AND SOURCE THE MANUFACTURER AND I'M SURE THEY PROBABLY OFFER ANOTHER LID THAT WOULD FIT ON THAT. CAM. YEAH, MAYBE THAT'S INSTEAD OF NEW CONTAINERS. IT'S THAT'S PART OF THE PROJECT. 
          YEAH. AND THAT WOULD BE INTERESTING BECAUSE YOU HAVE WHAT, 100 HOURS YOU'RE PUTTING IN THIS PROJECT. SO, YOU KNOW, MAYBE SOME SORT OF PART OF THE PROJECT COULD BE JUST YOU SURVEYING, YOU KNOW, HOWEVER MANY BINS FOR A TWO WEEK PERIOD AND REALLY LOOKING IN TO THOSE CURRENT RECYCLING BINS. HOW, YOU KNOW, YEAH, IT'S KIND OF GROSS TO ACTUALLY BE SORTING THROUGH THERE. I'VE DONE THAT WITH STUDENTS, BUT TO REALLY SEE HOW ARE WE DOING, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I THINK WE'D ALL BE INTERESTED IN HOW ARE WE CURRENTLY DOING AND HOW COULD WE BE DOING BETTER? YEAH, I WANT TO JUMP IN HERE, BUT I KNOW YOU WANTED TO TALK SOMETHING FIRST. PETE, YOU WERE SAYING THAT IT MADE ME THINK ABOUT WHEN WE DID THE TRASH PICKUPS, THE COMMUNITY CLEANUPS HERE IN TOWN. IT'S SO EXCITING TO TAKE PEOPLE OUT TO ACTUALLY SEE THIS. SO YOU'RE GOING TO BE DOING THIS RIGHT FOR YOURSELF. BUT ONE OF THE THINGS I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO THINK ABOUT IS MAYBE DOING THE COMMUNITY CLEANUPS, BECAUSE YOU'RE KIND OF EXPLAINING TO PEOPLE AS YOU GO. AND WE WOULD PICK UP TRASH. WE ACTUALLY WENT THROUGH THE TRASH. IT'S KIND OF GROSS, BUT WE DID IT. AND WE WERE LIKE, OH, THIS IS HOW MANY PLASTIC WATER BOTTLES JUST START TO SEE A PATTERN OF WHERE THAT WILL GIVE YOU THE DATA THEN TO GO, OKAY, WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT THIS AND THIS, BUT YOU COULD TAKE YOUR ORANGE BAGS WITH YOU AND DO A LOT OF THAT STUFF THAT THE PLASTIC BAGS FROM THE SNACKS AND STUFF THAT GO IN THERE. 
          LIKE THAT'S THE KIND OF THING THAT I THINK IF YOU REALLY WANT TO GET PEOPLE INVESTED, GET AS MANY PEOPLE OUT AS YOU CAN. THAT WOULD BE MY, MY EXPERIENCE DOING THIS. I THINK YOUR IDEAS ARE FANTASTIC. I THINK THIS IS GREAT. I THINK THIS IS DOABLE. AND I THINK IT CAN CHANGE THINGS ON A VERY LIKE A VERY SIMPLE WAY, BUT A VERY MEANINGFUL WAY. BUT I THINK THE HARDEST PART IS EDUCATING PEOPLE. AND I MEAN, ANYONE CAN GO PICK UP ANYTHING BUT TO UNDERSTAND HOW THAT'S WHY WE ALL DO IT. WE GO TO THESE TRASH CANS. LIKE, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS RECYCLABLE OR THIS IS TRASH. I DON'T KNOW, AND I DON'T WANT TO THINK THAT PART. 
          SO OUR JOB IS TO MAYBE, YOU KNOW, WORK ON THAT A LITTLE BIT. AND I THINK THIS IS A REALLY GOOD WAY TO DO THAT. SO AND EVEN IF THE TRANSPORT STUFF DOESN'T WORK OUT AS MUCH, MAYBE THINK ABOUT DOING, ADDING WALKS TO AND GETTING PEOPLE TO WALK AROUND THE COMMUNITY AND SEE WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE. THAT'S ALL. AND I LOVE IT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. 
          I LIKE THAT MY QUESTION WAS JUST MORE ABOUT THE GOLD AWARD. AND IF YOU HAVE TO SHOW AND IF THAT'S MAYBE SOMETHING WE COULD HELP YOU WITH OVER TIME, LIKE MEASURABLE GOALS, OR IF YOU HAVE TO SHOW HOW YOU'VE BEEN SUCCESSFUL OR COLLECT DATA. I FEEL LIKE THAT'S ALWAYS SOMETHING YOU WANT TO THINK ABOUT AT THE BEGINNING BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE. LIKE, OH GOSH, NOW I HAVE TO GO BACK AND FIGURE OUT WHAT I DID. LIKE, DO YOU HAVE A PLAN OR DO YOU HAVE A REQUIREMENT TO SHOW YOUR PROGRESS OR YOUR SUCCESS RATE, OR WHAT DIFFERENCE YOU'VE MADE BY DOING THIS PROJECT? THERE ARE DEFINITELY LIKE GUIDELINES AND THEY DEFINITELY WILL SUPPORT OUR PROJECT, LIKE ALL THE WAY THROUGH, ESPECIALLY LIKE EVEN MORE THAN THE SILVER AWARD. THEY REALLY WANT THE GIRLS TO SUCCEED IN THEIR PROJECTS. SO THAT'S WHY I HAVE TO LIKE SUBMIT THE PROJECT IDEA TO THEM SO THAT THEY CAN BE LIKE, YES, THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. 
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GO AHEAD WITH THAT. OR HEY, LET'S MAKE SOME CHANGES SO THAT THIS IS ACTUALLY ACHIEVABLE. SO ONE OF THEIR MAIN THINGS IS MAKE IT SUSTAINABLE, WHICH NOT IN THE LIKE ENVIRONMENTAL WAY, BUT THE, YOU KNOW, LET IT CARRY ON AFTER YOU. SO THAT WOULD BE ONE OF THE GOALS THAT LIKE, I HAVE TO PROVE TO THEM THAT IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN AFTERWARD. AND EDUCATION IS A BIG PART OF THAT BECAUSE EDUCATION WILL LIVE ON AFTER YOU. SO I THINK WE JUST LIKE I GIVE THEM SOME PICTURES OF MY PROJECTS, LIKE FOR THE SILVER AWARD, THERE WAS LIKE A NEWS ARTICLE IN THE NEW ALBANY, NEW ALBANY, LIKE I SENT THAT TO THEM TO LIKE SHOW THAT THIS MADE AN IMPACT. AND I DON'T KNOW ABOUT LIKE ANY SPECIFIC, YOU KNOW, LIKE DATA REQUIREMENTS THAT WOULD BE CRUCIAL TO THE PROJECT. BUT I THINK JUST MAKING SURE THAT IT'S SUSTAINABLE AND SOMETHING THAT WILL LIKE CONTINUE AFTER I'M DONE WITH THE PROJECT. YOU'RE DOING GREAT. THIS IS A REALLY GOOD IDEA. THANK YOU. I THINK IT WILL BE REALLY HELPFUL. THANKS. YOU'LL GET TO WALK AWAY WITH THAT. YEAH. GOOD. YOU'RE LIKE OH YEAH. YEAH. CAN WE TURN THE FIRE HOSE OFF NOW? AND I THINK TWO STAFF CAN HELP YOU FINALIZE EVERYTHING BEFORE YOU TURN IT INTO THE GIRL SCOUT REVIEWER BOARD. AND ONCE THAT'S IN, THEN WE CAN DO THE APPLICATION FOR THE GRANT. YEAH, THAT'D BE GREAT. THANK YOU. YEAH. ANY MORE QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANKS. THANK YOU. OKAY. NEXT COUPLE OF ITEMS ARE SOME UPDATES FOR YOU ALL. THE FIRST ONE IS REGARDING THE POCKET PRAIRIES AND. MAD SCIENTIST DOES HAVE ALL OF THE SEED THAT THEY NEED IN THEIR POSSESSION. AND THEY HAVE ORDERED MOST OF THE PLANTS FOR JAMES RIVER PARK. AND THOSE WILL BE KIND OF ARRIVING ON A STAGGERED BASIS BETWEEN MAY AND AUGUST. SO WHAT THEY WANT TO KNOW FROM YOU ALL IS CAN THEY START PLANTING AS THOSE ARRIVE, OR DO YOU WANT THEM TO HOLD OFF UNTIL THEY HAVE EVERYTHING IN HAND AND THEN PLANT EVERYTHING AT ONCE? THEY ARE STILL SEARCHING FOR A COUPLE SHRUBS SPECIES. SOME ARE IN PRODUCTION AND WILL NOT BE READY UNTIL THE FALL. AND THEN ONE SPECIES OF THE MILKWEED WAS UNAVAILABLE AS THE PLUGS. SO THEY HAVE BEGUN THE PROCESS TO. MAYBE STARTING IT FROM THE SEED, AND THEN WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO IT IN HOUSE. 
          SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT THEY'RE WORKING THROUGH. SO MY QUESTION IS TO YOU WHETHER AS THEY GET THE PLANTINGS, ARE YOU GOOD WITH THEM KIND OF PHASING THE PLANTINGS OR DO YOU WANT THEM TO GET EVERYTHING AND THEN PLANT IT ALL AT ONCE? OBVIOUSLY THE SEED CAN GO IN BEFORE THAT. 
          FIRST QUESTION IMMEDIATELY IN MY HEAD IS, WILL THEY BE CHARGING MORE IF THEY HAVE TO COME MORE TIMES THAN THEY WERE BUDGETING? SO YOU HEARD ON THE RECORD, THE GENTLEMAN SAID IF THEY GO OVER BUDGET, THEY'RE GOING TO EAT THE COST. SO I'M HOLDING THEM TO THAT, AND I KNOW ANGIE WILL HOLD THEM TO THAT AS WELL. I WOULD SAY PLANT THEM WHENEVER THEY'RE GOING TO BE SUCCESSFUL. THE THOUGHT OF THEM PLANTING IN AUGUST SOUNDS KIND OF ODD. YEAH. WAITING TILL FALL, YEAH, I AGREE. ALSO, A LOT OF THESE PLANTS TAKE A YEAR OR TWO TO ESTABLISH. SO SOONER THE BETTER. YEAH. AND I GUESS NOT IN THE MIDDLE OF AUGUST. DOES ANYBODY DISAGREE WITH THAT. 
          JUST KNOW WE'RE ALL WAITING WITH THE SAME ANSWER. I MEAN, RATHER THAN WAIT TILL FALL, ARE THESE LIKE CRITICAL SHRUB SPECIES THAT CAN'T BE SUBSTITUTED FOR SOMETHING THAT MAY BE AVAILABLE? I GUESS I DON'T THINK WE WENT ITEM FOR ITEM, BUT THIS IS THIS WAS THERE WERE A LOT OF DOTS ON THAT DRAWING. I FEEL LIKE IF YOU CHANGE A RED ONE FOR AN ORANGE ONE, IT MIGHT NOT MAKE A DIFFERENCE. I CAN REQUEST THE PAINTING GETS BROUGHT BACK. IF THEY AREN'T, THAT'S THEIR ARTISTIC WORTH. EVERY PENNY. I WOULD TEND TO LIKE TO. I MEAN, 
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WE HAVE THIS INFORMATION ON ON THE CITY WEBSITE. WE COULD CERTAINLY DO SOME UPDATED BLURB ABOUT. THIS IS NOW A WORK IN PROGRESS. PLANNING WILL BEGIN. THERE'S A LINE PROCESS. SO IF PEOPLE LOOKING FOR AN ANSWER CAN GET AN ANSWER. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME SHOVELS IN THE GROUND AND SOME MOMENTUM GOING ON THIS STUFF SOONER THAN LATER. ON. THIS SOMEWHAT OF A SIDE NOTE FOR STAFF. I JUST HAPPEN TO SIT THROUGH AN ARB MEETING THIS WEEK, AND THERE IS A PROPOSAL THAT WILL COME IN FRONT OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION NEXT WEEK. I SUBMIT THAT HITS COUNCIL THEN AT LEAST A WEEK AFTER OR MAYBE SOMETIME AFTERWARDS FOR A NEW BUILDING THAT IS ON A BACKSIDE PLOT OF THE ROSE RUN PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH. YOU'RE AWARE OF THIS? OKAY, BECAUSE THERE WAS SOME SCREENING THAT HAS BEEN SOMEWHAT COMMITTED TO TO NEIGHBORS THAT WAS INFRINGING ON SOME OF OUR PLANTING AREA. RIGHT. OKAY. YEP. IT WILL NOT INFRINGE ON THE PLANTINGS. GOT IT. I'VE BEEN TRYING TO MAKE SURE OF THAT. YEAH, I ASSUME IT WAS HAPPENING. I JUST DIDN'T WANT TO BE SURPRISED. ANYBODY THERE LIKE THIS ISN'T HAPPENING OVER HERE. YEAH. THANK YOU. YEAH. I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION. AS I MISSED ALL THESE PREVIOUS CONVERSATIONS OBVIOUSLY. BUT HAS THERE BEEN ANY DISCUSSION WITH THIS LANDSCAPING COMPANY OR NATIVE PLANNING COMPANY ABOUT AT SOME POINT COLLECTING SEEDS FROM THESE? OR YOU COULD PROPAGATE AND CREATE NEW POCKET PRAIRIES AND AT LESS COST. I DON'T THINK THAT HAS COME UP. 
          ANYBODY ELSE? MAYBE I'M WRONG. THERE'S A NONPROFIT LOCAL THAT I'VE WORKED WITH THAT COLLECTS SEEDS. USUALLY THEY WAIT, YOU KNOW, A FEW YEARS UNTIL SOMEBODY IS REALLY ESTABLISHED, BUT YOU GET A LOT OF THE BIG ONES AROUND TOWN. SO I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA. EVENTUALLY. 
          WE COULD MAYBE DO THAT. YEAH, I AGREE, I'VE BEEN COLLECTING MY OWN SEEDS. I'VE HAD MILKWEED, I'VE GOT ALL KINDS OF STUFF. YEAH, I AGREE, I KNOW I DID A THING WITH GARDEN FOR ALL A COUPLE YEARS AGO WITH SEED STARTING, AND THAT WAS A BIG QUESTION THAT PEOPLE WANTED TO KNOW ABOUT SEED COLLECTION. NOW THAT WE'RE STARTING TO TO PROPAGATE A LOT OF THESE THINGS, AND AS WE SEE TAYLOR FARM PARK AND SOME OF THESE OTHER PLACES, WE'VE SORT OF GOTTEN SOME NICE WILDFLOWERS AND SOME DIFFERENT THINGS. YEAH, THAT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD PROBABLY BE THINKING ABOUT AS WE START TO GET MORE AND MORE INTO THIS. BECAUSE ONCE WE START TO DO THIS, IF WE CAN USE GREEN GUARDIANS OR TRAIN OTHER PEOPLE TO DO, I THINK THE COMMUNITY WILL GET BEHIND THAT. AND IT'S KIND OF FUN TO DO ACTUALLY. SO JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT. 
          THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. AND YES, THEY'RE GOING TO BE SHIFTING THE PLANTING BED AT JAMES RIVER BECAUSE A PORTION OF IT WAS IN THE EASEMENT. SO THEY'RE GOING TO BE JUST SHIFTING THAT A LITTLE BIT. AND THEY SAID THAT ONCE WE GET MORE CONSISTENT, DRIER, WARMER WEATHER, THEY WILL BEGIN THE SPOT TREATMENTS THAT THEY STILL HAVE TO DO AT PLANTERS GROVE. AND THEN THEY WILL SEED THAT THIS SPRING. IS IT IS IT WHY THIS CAN'T GO ON AN EASEMENT? SO THE EASEMENT THAT THE PLANTING BED WAS IN DOES NOT ALLOW. I DON'T REMEMBER THE EXACT TERMINOLOGY, BUT SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT WHERE THEY CAN'T BE WOODY STEMS. SO IT HAS TO BE PRETTY MUCH GRASS OR NON WOODY STEM PLANTINGS IN THE EPS. WERE THERE OTHER EASEMENTS THAT HAVE. 
          DON'T HAVE THAT I GUESS. OTHER REASONS THAT DON'T HAVE THAT. YEAH, YEAH. THIS SPECIFIC ARP EASEMENT THAT THIS FLOWER BED WAS IN HAS THAT REQUIREMENT. AND. NOW ALL OF THE EASEMENTS WITH THE OVERHEAD LINES HAVE THAT REQUIREMENT. AND THAT'S THE MORE FORMAL OF THE THREE THAT WE'RE DOING. CORRECT? YEAH. MORE LAID OUT INSTEAD OF JUST A PRAIRIE GARDEN. YEAH. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I SHARED WITH YOU THE CONSORTIUM BID DOCUMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN PUBLISHED. AND THIS IS FOR. ALL OF THE SERVICES THAT OUR RESIDENTS GET FOR THEIR TRASH AND RECYCLING. WE'RE NOW WORKING TOWARDS THE NEXT CYCLE THAT WILL START IN 2027. BUT. IN THAT BID THAT I GAVE TO YOU, WE HAD AN INVITATION TO BID FOR COLLECTION SERVICES FOR FOOD WASTE CURBSIDE AND THE POTENTIAL FOR VOLUME BASED TRASH COLLECTION. WE MAY GET BIDS FOR ONE OR THE OTHER. WE MAY GET BIDS FOR NEITHER 
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BECAUSE THE TRASH THE VOLUME BASED IS ALSO OPTIONAL, SO THEY STILL HAVE TO ALSO BID FOR STATUS QUO FOR WHAT ALL THE RESIDENTS GET. CURRENTLY, THAT WAS PUBLISHED IN IN MARCH, THEY WILL HAVE A MEETING WITH THE PROSPECTIVE BIDDERS. I'M SORRY, THAT MEETING IS IN APRIL BECAUSE THE BIDDERS ARE ABLE TO SUBMIT QUESTIONS IN MARCH AND THEN THE PUBLIC OPENING IN APRIL. AND AFTER THAT MEETING, THERE WILL BE A DEADLINE FOR ALL THE COMMUNITIES TO MAKE THEIR SELECTIONS. MAYBE MAY I THINK I CAN'T REMEMBER THE DUE DATE. SO IT'S GOING THROUGH THAT PROCESS RIGHT NOW. CHELSEA HAD A QUESTION. I MAKE SURE I'M UNDERSTANDING THE THE. UPDATED AND UPDATED, BUT THE ADDITIONAL THING YOU PROVIDED WHEN IT'S TALKING ABOUT THE VOLUME BASED, IT IS REFERRING TO EXHIBIT G. SO AND THAT'S PART OF BEXLEY'S. SO IS THAT JUST USING THEIR EXAMPLE OF SAYING IT'S BEXLEY WHEN THE ORIGINAL BID WENT OUT? BEXLEY SAW WHAT WE WERE DOING AND DECIDED THAT THEY WANTED IN ON IT AS WELL. AND SO THE ADDENDUM WAS MOSTLY TO INCLUDE THEM. IN HAVING THEIR OWN SERVICES BE PROVIDED AS WELL. SO THE BIDS FOR THE FOOD WASTE AND THE VOLUME WASTE TRASH, THE THERE WOULD BE BIDS SPECIFIC FOR NEW ALBANY, AND THEN THERE WOULD BE BIDS SPECIFIC FOR BEXLEY. SO THEY'RE OKAY. SEPARATE BIDS. THEY WOULD GET THEIR OWN AND WE WOULD GET OUR OWN. BUT I WAS CONFUSED BECAUSE WHEN IT REFERENCES THIS EXHIBIT G, WHICH GIVES SOME DETAIL AS TO HOW THAT WOULD BE DONE, BECAUSE IT LOOKED LIKE OUR BID WAS TALKING ABOUT A SINGLE CONTAINER SIZE, AND THEIR BID GETS INTO MULTIPLE SIZES OF CONTAINERS. WE'RE DOING DIFFERENT. THEY'RE DOING WE'RE DOING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT OPTIONS. THAT'S WHY THEY HAVE THEIR OWN G ADDENDUM. GOT IT. SO THEN I GUESS I'M CONFUSED BECAUSE I THOUGHT WE I'M NOT SURE HOW WE'RE DOING A DIFFERENT VOLUME OPTION. IF THERE'S ONLY ONE CART SIZE, OUR CARTS ARE IN THE ORIGINAL BID. IS THAT JUST THE ADDENDUM? SO OUR ADDENDUM WAS HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE FOOD WASTE AND VOLUME BASED. OUR ADDENDUM WAS FOR EXHIBIT E, AND IT WAS BASED ON A MODIFICATION WE HAD TO MAKE FOR BILLING. OKAY. YEAH. 
          SORRY. ALL RIGHT. SO OUR IN THE ORIGINAL DOCUMENT. OKAY. OKAY. SO CARS ARE IN THERE. YEAH. 
          OKAY. AS I READ THROUGH THIS, IT WAS ONLY REFERRING TO THE ONE SIZE I WAS THROWN OFF BY THAT. OKAY. YEAH. GREAT. YEAH. THEY HAD TO MUDDY THE WATERS. FANTASTIC. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NOPE. OKAY. I GAVE EVERYONE A PAPER COPY OF THIS. THIS IS THE WASTE DIVERSION. 
          NUMBERS ARE FROM 2025. AND. THIS IS JUST FOR 2025. SO IT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE HISTORIC TABS. BUT JEFF HELPED PUT THIS TOGETHER. SO YOU GUYS CAN LOOK AT THE YEAR ALL AT ONCE. I'M SORRY. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FOOD. OH YES. SO THIS IS JUST THE WASTE DIVERSION FOR ALL ASPECTS OF COLLECTION SERVICES IN NEW ALBANY. THIS IS FOR EVERYTHING THAT RUMPKE PROVIDES TO US. AND THEN WE ALSO INCLUDE NUMBERS FOR OUR COMPOST DROP OFF LOCATIONS. AND THEN THE WINDSOR CURBSIDE PILOT PROGRAM AS WELL. SO IS THAT 28% NUMBER OF. KIND OF AN AVERAGE OF OTHER 
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COMMUNITIES? IS IT LOW OR HIGH FOR OTHER COMMUNITIES OR JUST HOW DO YOU STACK UP? WHAT IS THAT 48% MEAN? IS THAT GOOD OR BAD? I HONESTLY, I DON'T KNOW. WE HAVEN'T REALLY COMPARED OUR NUMBERS WITH ANY OTHER COMMUNITIES. I GOT A ROUGH MONTH IN DECEMBER, 80% COMPARED TO 31% NOVEMBER. THAT'S FUNNY. DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S BECAUSE OF. IS THAT JUST THE INCREASE YOU THINK IN CHRISTMAS? YEAH. CHRISTMAS. WOW. AND THE WINDSOR PILOT PROGRAM. THERE WAS ONE LESS COLLECTION THAT MONTH BECAUSE OF CHRISTMAS. THEY DIDN'T COLLECT THAT WEEK. BUT THE TOTAL WASTE NUMBER IS LOWER IN DECEMBER THAN IT IS IN NOVEMBER BECAUSE. OH, YARD WASTE IS WAY DOWN. YEAH. AND DO WE HAVE SNOWBIRDS THAT TIME OF YEAR? NO BIRDS. SO THAT'S MAYBE THAT'S WHAT I. OBVIOUSLY THE NUMBERS. YEAH. I WOULD SAY THAT'S NOT THAT'S NOT AN ANOMALY IN LAST YEAR. YEAH. I DON'T HAVE MY GLASSES ON. SO I'M KIND OF LIKE SHOOTING GLASSES ON. THIS IS NOVEMBER, DECEMBER OH FIVE. SORRY FOR HERE. OH 4004 NUMBER SO DECEMBER IS SIGNIFICANTLY LESS THAN NOVEMBER. THIS IS LIKE WHEN WE HAVE OUR. SO YEAH, IT'S A DROP OFF. IT'S PRETTY NORMAL YEAR AFTER YEAR. THE WRAPPING PAPER IS RECYCLABLE. THAT'S WHY YOU'RE RECYCLING YOUR LIGHTS. DON'T FORGET, EVERYTHING IS MORE DATA THAN WHETHER IT'S A COMMUNITY OR YEAR OVER YEAR. SO I DON'T I DON'T HAVE I'VE GOT HISTORICAL INFORMATION, BUT WITHOUT DOING THE MATH ON IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE PROBABLY PRETTY CLOSE. IT SEEMS LIKE IT ONLY DELTA IS THE YARD WASTE OR RECYCLING NUMBER IS ACTUALLY THE HIGHEST NUMBER OF THE. I THINK IT'S SOME KIND OF A TYPO BECAUSE IF YOU ADD THE RECYCLING YARD WASTE TOGETHER, I THINK IT SHOULD BE MORE THAN 35 TONS DIVERTED. ANYWAYS. YEAH, I DIDN'T MEAN TO DWELL ON THAT, BUT SO THE EMAIL I SENT YOU HAD THE WHOLE YEAR, THE PRINT OUT I JUST DID. BASICALLY THE SECOND HALF OF THE YEAR AS I GAVE YOU A PRINTOUT OF THE FIRST HALF OF THE YEAR. AROUND SUMMER TIME LAST YEAR. YEAH, TO PETE'S POINT, I DON'T THINK IT JUST CALCULATED RIGHT. I CAN I CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THE FORMULAS AND MAKE SURE I DIDN'T MAKE AN ERROR. YEAH, I GUESS I WAS JUST TRYING TO SEE IF THAT'S, YOU KNOW, IS THAT A GOOD TARGET? ARE WE SHOOTING FOR SOMETHING HIGHER THAN THAT OR IS THAT GOOD? I JUST HAVE NO IDEA. WHERE YOU CAN FIND OUT. SO PREVIOUSLY, I THOUGHT EVERYONE WAS ON BOARD WITH THE IDEA OF SETTING A TARGET. BUT YEAH, MY PERSONAL FEELING IS THAT WE SHOULD HAVE TARGETS BECAUSE SHOULD SHOULD AT SOME POINT ESTABLISH A TARGET, A GOAL THAT WE'RE TRYING TO REACH BECAUSE I, I'M, I'M CALLING THIS, I DON'T HAVE A CALCULATOR WITH ME. MY GLASSES AREN'T ON, BUT WE'RE PROBABLY STILL TREADING WATER ON AN ANNUAL BASIS FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS. SO NOT BAD. WE'RE NOT DOING BAD POORLY. BUT YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT INCREASING THE DIVERSION AT ALL. IF YOU HAVE THE DIVERSION, DOES THAT TRANSLATE INTO LOWER COST FOR THE CITY? IF YOU HAVE A HIGHER DIVERSION RATE? NOT CURRENTLY, UNLESS. I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER NOW READING OUR CONTRACT WITH RUMKI, IF IT'S BASED ON WEIGHT OR NOT, POTENTIALLY. YEAH, I I'D HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK JUST A QUESTION ABOUT A BIG PIG. SO THAT'S ALL. THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. WELL, IT IT BRINGS UP THE REASON WE'RE GETTING BACK TO THE CONSORTIUM BID PROCESS IS ADDING IN A VOLUME BASED GACHA IDEA THAT WHILE IT'S VOLUME, NOT WEIGHT, YOU KNOW, THE IDEA IS THAT CONCEPTUALLY IT SHOULD ALL KIND OF WORK OUT THAT IF YOU ARE, ARE USING OR PUTTING WAY LESS TRASH, IT'S NOT THE CITY AS A DIFFERENCE, BUT IT'S VOLUME ON THE CONSUMER. SO YOU'D BE BILLED DIFFERENTLY THAN WHAT IT SHOULD BE DOING OTHERWISE. IN A BEST CASE SCENARIO. I KNOW MY SON'S IN SEATTLE AND THEY HAVE FOUR DIFFERENT SIZES OF, OF TRASH CANS THERE THAT THEY USE, AND YOU PAY ACCORDINGLY BASED ON 
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THE SMALLEST TO THE LARGEST, AND THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT WEIGHING AT THAT POINT, BUT YOU DO HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT CHANGING OUT BINS AND. RIGHT. THIS IS THE KIND OF NUMBER LIKE THE TOTAL PERCENT DIVERTED, THAT I WONDER IF WE COULD LOOK AT AFTER, SAY, A HEFTY BAG PROGRAM AND SEE IF IT CHANGES THIS KIND OF NUMBER. AND IF WE DO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PILOT CURBSIDE FOOD WASTE COLLECTION FOR THE WHOLE CITY, EVENTUALLY, HOPEFULLY THOSE NUMBERS WOULD ALSO CHANGE. BEXLEY AND UPPER ARLINGTON ARE THE ONLY TWO AROUND HERE THAT CURRENTLY PROVIDE THAT SERVICE CITYWIDE. AND. BEXLEY HAS BEEN DOING IT THE LONGEST. AND THEY'RE JUST NOW, AFTER YEARS OF HAVING THE CURBSIDE COLLECTION FOR FOOD WASTE, THEY'RE JUST NOW SEEING THOSE NUMBERS CHANGE. SO IT DOES TAKE TIME. SO IT WON'T BE IMMEDIATE, BUT MAYBE AT THE END OF THE PILOT PROGRAM, IF WE WERE ABLE TO DO IT, IT'LL BE A DIFFERENCE. 
          I WONDER IF THEY HAVE KEY TAKEAWAYS WE COULD LEARN FROM TO KIND OF EASE THAT RAMP UP A LITTLE BIT, LIKE SHAVE A YEAR OFF OF WHAT THEY HAD TO STRUGGLE THROUGH, LEARN FROM SOME THINGS THAT THEY FOUND SUCCESSFUL OR UNSUCCESSFUL. AND DO WE HAVE A CONTACT? YEAH, YEAH. OKAY. IT COULD BE LIKE A GOOD CONVERSATION TO HAVE. LIKE INTERMEDIATE OR SOMETHING. YEAH. 
          AND THEY OBVIOUSLY WANT TO JUMP IN. CHELSEA HAS BEEN DOING THAT SINCE WE STARTED GETTING INTO THIS. NO NO IT'S FINE. YEAH. STAFF HAS BEEN WORKING WITH BEXLEY WITH ANY NUMBER OF OTHER CITIES THAT ARE KIND OF DOING THIS TO GET SOME BEST PRACTICE INFORMATION. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS CHALLENGING AND WHY WE DID THE THE TEST, THE WAY WE'RE DOING IT WAS, YOU KNOW, IT'S PRETTY CONTAINED, OBVIOUSLY, AND STRAIGHT AWAY TO GET THINGS IN AND OUT FROM FOLKS. SO WE WERE HOPING THAT IF WE CAN GET A GOOD DIVERSION NUMBER OUT OF THIS TESTING, THAT MIGHT BE GOOD APPLES TO APPLES AND FIGURE OUT WHERE WE'RE GOING FROM THAT. BUT YEAH, THEY'VE BEEN IN THE HIP POCKETS. THANK YOU FOR GOING THROUGH THAT. I THINK IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT JUST IT'S JUST CONSISTENCY AND BUILDING. YOU KNOW, MY TAKEAWAY HAS BEEN WE'VE BEEN USING THESE SMALLER CONTAINERS AND I THINK THEY'RE STILL AT THAT LEVEL OF USING THAT KIND OF THAT BUCKET TYPE OF THING. AND, YOU KNOW, ANYBODY THAT HAS LIVED IN AREAS NEW YORK, CALIFORNIA, WASHINGTON, OREGON, WHERE, YOU KNOW, IT'S A COMPLETE ORGANICS DIVERSION, YOU'RE GETTING A MUCH BIGGER UPTAKE OF IT BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT HAVING TO WORRY ABOUT WHAT SITS INSIDE THIS LITTLE BARREL. AND, YOU KNOW, WHAT DO YOU DO WITH THAT KIND OF THING? BUT WORKING TOWARDS IT. SO BACK OF THE NAPKIN, I THINK WE'RE MORE LIKE 30.2% FOR DECEMBER. I DON'T THINK THAT WAS THAT FAR OFF OUR AVERAGE, BUT I, I DON'T MIND THE IDEA OF KIND OF COMBINING CHARLES PASSION GOALS. WHICH GOALS FOR WHAT ARE WE DOING HERE? GOALS. BUT COMBINING THAT WITH HOWARD'S, WHAT, YOU KNOW, CAPTURING LIKE A BEST PRACTICE, WHAT IS A NUMBER THAT WE SHOULD BE STRIVING FOR? LIKE IS, IS A PEER COMMUNITY THAT WE WANT TO COMPARE OURSELVES WITH LIKE A BEXLEY? ARE THEY 50% OF DIVERSION? AND, YOU KNOW, SO I THINK I WOULD FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE IF WE ESTABLISHED, I DON'T WANT TO JUST THROW AN ARBITRARY NUMBER OUT LIKE HIGHER THAN WHERE WE'RE AT NOW BECAUSE OKAY, WE CAN SAY 35%, BUT IF THAT'S NOT EVEN REALLY THAT, YOU KNOW, COMMENDABLE, I DON'T THINK REYNOLDSBURG GOING THERE FROM REYNOLDSBURG. YEAH. SO I LOVE THE IDEA OF DOING A LITTLE DUE DILIGENCE AND SEEING IF WE CAN CAPTURE A NUMBER THAT IS MEANINGFUL FOR BEST PRACTICE. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THEN I THINK WE COULD ALMOST CREATE LIKE A CAMPAIGN OR SOMETHING AROUND THAT TO GET PEOPLE IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT GETTING PEOPLE EXCITED ABOUT COMPOSTING AND RECYCLING, YOU KNOW, ALL THE THINGS THAT WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT PEOPLE NEED, LIKE A LITTLE CARROT AND A LITTLE INCENTIVE, LIKE, OH, SHOOT, YOU KNOW, IF WE WANT TO MOVE THE NEEDLE, MAYBE I NEED TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE DILIGENT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE I NEED TO TRY THIS COMPOSTING THING THAT I SEE THESE BUCKETS OUT THERE AND I'VE NEVER DONE IT, BUT SO WE COULD ACTUALLY KIND OF ROLL THAT INTO SOME SORT OF CAMPAIGN IF WE'VE GOT THAT NUMBER OUT THERE. BUT I JUST WANT IT TO BE A MEANINGFUL NUMBER. YEAH. ACCORDING TO THE EPA, ON AVERAGE, 32% IS DIVERTED. SORRY. 
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SO NEVER MIND. FORGET WHAT I SAID. WE'RE GOOD. DID I SAY 30.2? I MEANT 32.0 FOR DECEMBER. 
          THAT'S FINE. WE COULD DO BETTER THAN I EVER TRIED. YOU'D LIKE TO BELIEVE. YOU'D LIKE TO BELIEVE. OKAY, SO YEAH, IF WE WANT TO SHOOT FOR LIKE A 40% OR SOMETHING, THEN DIFFERENTIATES US, YOU KNOW, IN THIS, LIKE WE OBVIOUSLY WE DON'T WANT TO BE AVERAGE, BUT I DON'T WANT TO SAY 60%. WE'RE JUST NEVER GOING TO GET THERE. BUT YOU KNOW, THE BOARD WANTS TO ASSIGN A NUMBER THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD AND KIND OF ADVERTISE AND SHOOT FOR. I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD WAY TO GENERATE SOME BUZZ AROUND DIVERSION. I MEAN, AND YOU KNOW, PERCENTAGE. 3534 YOU KNOW, THOSE IT SEEMS LIKE, OH, THIS IS QUIBBLING. BUT I MEAN, WHEN YOU'RE TALKING IN TONS, THAT'S A LOT OF THINGS NOT GOING TO THE LANDFILL. SO YEAH, I DON'T WANT IT TO BE LIKE 50%. 
          I MEAN, I WOULD LIKE TO BE 50%, BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S REASONABLE THAT WE CAN HIT. WE CAN ALWAYS PUT ANOTHER GOAL IN. YEAH. GREAT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE? GREAT. 
          OKAY. WE HAVE THE SPRING WASTE COLLECTION EVENT COMING UP ON SATURDAY, APRIL 18TH FROM 8 TO 12. WE ARE LOOKING FOR VOLUNTEERS AND WE WILL BE ASKING FOLKS TO SIGN UP FOR AT LEAST A TWO HOUR SHIFT, WHETHER THAT'S FROM 8 TO 10 OR 10 TO 12. WE HAVE A MEETING NEXT WEEK, ETERNAL MEETING WITH STAFF TO KIND OF. JUST REFINE THE FLOW OF THE EVENT COMPARED TO LAST YEAR IN CASE WE HAVE A LARGE TURNOUT AGAIN. BUT I WE ARE GOING TO HAVE PAPER SHREDDING THE HOUSEHOLD HAZARDOUS WASTE AND THE E-WASTE AND WHAT'S GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN YEARS PAST. THE E-WASTE FOLKS ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO BE ON SITE HELPING COLLECT E-WASTE AND HAULING IT AWAY THAT DAY. NORMALLY WE'RE DOING E-WASTE ALL OURSELVES, AND THEN THEY COME BACK LATER, A FEW DAYS LATER AND TAKE IT ALL AWAY. BUT WE'LL STILL NEED A LOT OF VOLUNTEERS BECAUSE I THINK WE'RE GOING TO. OH, AND THE POLICE IS GOING TO ACTUALLY HAVE A PRESENCE THIS YEAR TO HELP DIRECT TRAFFIC. AND WE'VE WE'VE CURTAILED OUR MARKETING. 
          CORRECT. AT LEAST OUR DIGITAL MARKETING. SO THAT'S THE OTHER THING. ORIGINALLY, I TOLD YOU THAT WE WERE ONLY GOING TO MARKET THIS BY SENDING A POSTCARD TO THE RESIDENTS, BUT OUR COMMS TEAM WASN'T COMFORTABLE NOT PROMOTING IT WHATSOEVER OUTSIDE OF THAT. SO IN ADDITION TO THE POSTCARD, THEY WILL DO. MAYBE ONE SOCIAL MEDIA POST AND THEN IT WAS IN THE NEWSLETTER THAT GOES TO COUNCIL. BUT THAT NEWSLETTER ALSO GOES TO RESIDENTS. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO PUT IT IN THE CONNECTS NEWSLETTER EMAIL BECAUSE THAT DOES GO TO A WIDER NET OF PEOPLE. SO WE ARE TRYING TO SCALE IT BACK TO MORE OF WHAT WE HAD THE YEAR BEFORE, REALLY FOCUSING ON NEW ALBANY RESIDENTS AND ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO BE AWARE THAT IT'S NOT A COMMERCIAL WASTE TO DRIVE. IT'S MORE RESIDENTIAL BASED. SO WE DON'T HAVE COMPANIES COMING WITH ALL OF THEIR STUFF ALSO. BUT YEAH, SO ALSO TWEAKING OUR PROMOTIONS TO KIND OF SCALE BACK TO HOW IT'S BEEN IN YEARS PAST. BUT IF YOU WERE THERE LAST YEAR, YOU KNOW, WE EVENTUALLY SCRAMBLED AND TRIED TO MAKE MULTIPLE LANES. SO REALLY STARTING WITH THOSE MULTIPLE LANES FROM THE GET GO, HOPEFULLY GETTING ALL OF THE TRAFFIC ON SITE AND NOT SO MUCH BACKING UP ONTO THE PUBLIC ROAD AND RETHINKING, YOU KNOW, WHERE THE PAPER SHREDDING WOULD BE SET UP. AND THEN JUST PERHAPS SIGNAGE SO PEOPLE WOULD KNOW WHAT LANE TO GET INTO. AND ALSO HAVING VOLUNTEERS HELPING DIRECT THEM, WHAT LANE THEY NEED TO BE INTO. SO REALLY REFINING ALL OF THAT EVENT FLOW. SO IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN WORKING THE EVENT, JUST LET ME 
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KNOW AND THEN LET ME KNOW WHAT SHIFT YOU WANT. YOU CAN JUST EMAIL ME AND WE'LL PUT YOU DOWN. 
          WELL, THE PAPER SHREDDING BE LOCATED IN THE SAME PLACE OR ARE WE RETHINKING THAT? I SHOULD GO THINKING IT NEEDS TO BE RELOCATED. AND THAT'LL BE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO TALK THROUGH NEXT WEEK WHEN ALL OF THE STAFF MEETS, BUT POTENTIALLY OVER ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BUILDING WHERE WE'VE HAD E-WASTE STUFF BEFORE. SO BEING OVER ON THE OTHER SIDE. SO YOU'RE DROPPING YOUR PAPER OFF AS YOU EXIT INSTEAD OF WHEN YOU ENTER. I THINK THAT'S THAT'S A GOOD PLAN. YEAH. BECAUSE IT WAS JUST WITH THE WAY EVERYBODY WAS GOING EVERYWHERE, WALKING ACROSS TRAFFIC TO GET TO THE PAPER SHREDDING WAS A LITTLE BIT RIGHT. WAS BOGGING THINGS DOWN A LITTLE BIT, RIGHT? ESPECIALLY WHEN PEOPLE WERE BRINGING GIANT BOXES OF MAGAZINES AND GOING THROUGH THEM. YEAH. RIGHT. AND TRYING TO MESSAGE THAT THE PAPER SHREDDING IS FOR SENSITIVE DOCUMENTS AND NOT JUST NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC LETTER FROM HER TRIP TO FLORIDA. LIKE, YOU KNOW, NOT SENSITIVE. YEAH. AND I'M SORRY IF YOU SAID IT, BUT WHAT'S THE COMP PLAN FOR THIS IS STARTING WHEN WHEN WILL IT START OUT TO THE PUBLIC? I'M NOT SURE. WE'LL FIGURE THAT OUT WHEN WE MEET NEXT WEEK ALSO. YEAH. SO NOT TO COMPLICATE IT, BUT I MENTIONED A WHILE BACK IF WE WANTED TO EXPAND ANOTHER KIND OF OPPORTUNITY FOR DIVERSION FROM LANDFILL FOR PEOPLE DOING COMPLETE SPRING CLEANING, LIKE HOUSEHOLD ITEMS. SO MY WIFE REACHED OUT TO JOSEPH'S COAT. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR. THEY'VE GOT A STOREFRONT IN REYNOLDSBURG AND THEY TAKE PEOPLE ON LIKE SHOPPING. IT'S A STORE WHERE EVERYTHING'S FREE AND THEY SHE REACHED OUT. THEY HAVE VOLUNTEERED TO HAVE TRUCKS ON SITE, VOLUNTEERS ON SITE. IF WE WANTED TO SET UP A SEPARATE STATION FOR THEM, THEY WOULD MAN IT THEMSELVES. SHE ALSO REACHED OUT AND FOUND A MOVING COMPANY THAT I THINK WILL BRING A SEMI UP TO AID, BECAUSE I TOLD HER SOME OF THESE. THESE ITEMS ARE PRETTY GOOD SIZE LIKE THEY ACTUALLY DO. THEY'RE ONE OF THE FEW PLACES EXCEPT MATTRESSES. SO THINGS LIKE SHOES, CLOTHES, BEDDING, HOUSEHOLD GOODS LIKE POTS, PANS, KIDS TOYS, BOARD GAMES, ALL THAT STUFF. INSTEAD OF THROWING THEM AWAY, THEY CAN DONATE. SO AS A BOARD, WE CAN DECIDE THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO PARTICIPATE ON THE 18TH. IF WE DON'T THINK STAFF, IF WE DON'T THINK THERE'S SPACE OR THE TIME TO PLAN, WE CAN DEFINITELY MAYBE SCHEDULE NOT USE THEM AT ALL OR DO IT DOWN THE ROAD. BUT THIS WOULD BE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO KIND OF DIVERT ITEMS FROM. NOT ONLY FROM THE LANDFILL, BUT PUT THEM TO GOOD USE AS WELL. WE ARE PLANNING TO DO A SECOND EVENT IN OCTOBER, OCTOBER 10TH, AND THAT EVENT WILL BE AT WALTON PARKWAY. JUST BECAUSE OF CONSTRUCTION. THAT'S GOING TO BE HAPPENING AT THE SERVICE DEPARTMENT IN THE FALL. 
          AND WE HAVE BEEN GIVEN APPROVAL BY THE LANDLORD AT WALTON PARKWAY TO UTILIZE ALL THREE PARKING LOTS SO PEOPLE WILL BE ABLE TO ENTER ON THE FARTHEST CURB, CUT AND KIND OF SNAKE THROUGH, AND THEN LEAVE ON THE OTHER CURB CUT. AND THERE'S FOUR CURB CUTS FOR THOSE THREE PARKING LOTS. SO THEN LIKE EACH PARKING LOT COULD HAVE A DIFFERENT VENDOR DEPENDING ON WHAT YOU WANT TO DO. I THINK THERE MIGHT BE MORE ROOM. AT THAT LOCATION TO ADD A FOURTH VENDOR THAN THE SERVICE DEPARTMENT. SO JUST THROWING THAT OUT THERE AS ANOTHER OPTION TOO IS WE COULD ALSO WAIT AND INVITE THEM FOR THE FALL EVENT. BUT THAT'S JUST ANOTHER OPTION. MY ONLY CONCERN WITH THAT WOULD BE IF THE VOLUME LIKE OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TWO TRUCKS, BUT LIKE WE'VE SEEN, WE MAY NEED TO STAGE AT LEAST FOR A PERIOD OF TIME UNTIL THEY CAN GET ALL THE MATERIALS OFF SITE AND SERVICE, ESPECIALLY WITH HOUSEHOLD GOODS. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF THEY CAN'T GET IT OUT, YOU KNOW, IF THEY'RE MAKING TRIPS THAT DAY, BUT IF 
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ITEMS ARE STILL THERE AND INCLEMENT WEATHER WHATNOT, RIGHT, THE STUFF COULD GET RUINED. YEAH, YEAH, WE DEFINITELY WOULD NEED IT TO BE. SO IF THEY CAN DO THAT, I WAS THINKING THEY'RE GOING TO TRY TO GET EVERYTHING OFFSITE THAT DAY, BUT WORST CASE THEY COULD, WE COULD KIND OF WHAT WE'VE DONE WITH THE E-WASTE IN THE PAST IS WE STAGE IT IN SERVICE UNTIL THEY CAN COME AND GRAB IT OR CONTINUE TO GRAB IT. SO THAT WOULD BE MY ONLY CONCERN WITH HAVING IT JUST OFF WALTON PARKWAY. BUT I THINK IT'S SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT. THEY ARE WILLING, BUT IF WE CAN'T FIGURE OUT LOGISTICALLY HOW TO MAKE IT WORK FOR THIS TRIP, THEN WE CAN DEFINITELY SEE IF WE CAN COORDINATE WITH THE SECOND ROUND. THAT'S IF THE GROUP THINKS WORTHY ADDITION. FOR MYSELF, I THINK IT'S ABSOLUTELY IT'S, YOU KNOW, MORE IS MORE. I'M WONDERING IF IN THIS IN THIS GO ROUND OF SOUNDS LIKE A TON OF WORK ON IT. LIKE THERE WOULDN'T BE A CHURCH THAT WOULD BE WILLING TO SPONSOR AN EVENT. MAYBE WE COULD STILL UTILIZE CITY COMMUNICATIONS ABOUT IT. BUT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THERE'S LARGE PARKING LOTS THAT HAVE NOT MUCH USE ON A SATURDAY KIND OF THING AS AN IDEA, BUT I LIKE THE IDEA OF TRYING TO AT LEAST COORDINATE IT INTO OCTOBER AND THEN FUTURE EVENTS. YEAH. OKAY. 
          I TELL YOUR WIFE, THANK YOU. THAT'S IT'S I THINK IT WOULD HAVE A HUGE TURNOUT. I THINK HUGE TURNOUT. I AGREE THAT'S MY ONLY CONCERN IS IF YOU'RE ALREADY DOING THE. WE ALREADY SEE WHAT THAT HAPPENS WITH THE E-WASTE AND RECYCLING EVERYTHING. BUT I THINK THAT COULD BE SOMETHING A SEPARATE EVENT. I THINK PEOPLE WOULD LOVE THAT LIKE A SPRING CLEAN. 
          I THINK THAT WOULD BE. I WOULD LOVE THAT PERSONALLY. AND I THINK I'VE DONE STUFF. I'VE DONATED STUFF TO THEM TOO, AND THEY DO A GREAT JOB. AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, I THINK OUR COY UNITY WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE THAT NO MATTER IF WE DID IT WITH THIS OR WITH IT WITHOUT IT. BUT I THINK LOGISTICALLY IT MIGHT BE A LOT TO ADD THAT TO SOMETHING THAT WE'VE ALREADY DONE THAT WE ALREADY, IT'S ALREADY KIND OF CIRCUS. IT'S GOOD THAT PEOPLE WANT TO DO THIS STUFF. BUT YEAH, IT'S JUST A LOT, RIGHT? BUT I'M ALL IN. AS I SAY, I THINK AT SOME POINT WE NEED TO BE SENSITIVE TO THE FACT OF LIKE LONG LINES WHEN PEOPLE SIT THERE IDLING. AND SO WE'VE GOT FUMES COMING OUT OF VEHICLES DOING THAT. AND THEN I GUESS THIS KIND OF THING IS, YOU KNOW, FOR SOMEONE THAT REALLY HAS A LOT, YOU'RE MAKING MULTIPLE TRIPS KIND OF THING. SO MAYBE SEPARATING THEM WOULD ACTUALLY BE A, AT LEAST INITIALLY WOULD BE A GOOD WAY TO GO. YOU'RE SO LUCKY YOU'RE NOT. CHELSEA. BUT SURE, WHATEVER. GO AHEAD. I'LL COMMIT TO THAT. YES. NOT MY PROBLEM. BECAUSE MAYBE, MAYBE, MAYBE IT ENDS UP BEING A, DARE I SAY, TWO DAY EVENT OR, OR A STANDALONE EVENT OR SOMETHING. RIGHT? IT COULD BE LIKE IN THAT SAME WEEKEND KIND OF THING WHERE, YEAH, WE NEED TO HAVE CITY STAFF STAFFING IT OTHER THAN HAVING IT IN THAT PROXIMITY. SO MAYBE, YEAH, WE COULD SEE HOW THIS APRIL 18TH GOES. AT LEAST WE CAN SEE HOW THINGS KIND OF LINE UP LOGISTICALLY ONCE WE HAVE OUR STAFF MEETING, ONE OF OUR GOALS IS TO CUE AS MANY CARS ON SITE AS POSSIBLE SO PEOPLE AREN'T BACKING OUT ONTO THE PUBLIC STREETS TO HELP WITH TRAFFIC. I THINK HAVING A POLICE OFFICER WILL HELP TREMENDOUSLY AS WELL, BUT MAYBE ONCE WE WORK THROUGH THAT PLAN, WE CAN SORT OF SEE HOW MUCH SPACE WE HAVE. IT MIGHT BE TOUGH TO FIT THAT EVENT IN IN APRIL SINCE WE'RE A MONTH OUT, BUT CERTAINLY, YEAH, I GUESS IF WE HAD MORE INFORMATION TO ON LIKE HOW MUCH SPACE AND HOW MANY VEHICLES THEY WOULD, THEY WOULD HAVE, THEN WE COULD START THINKING ABOUT THAT FOR THE FUTURE. CERTAINLY. OKAY. DOES THE SYSTEM WORK CLEAR? DOES THE BOARD WANT STAFF TO TRY AND FIGURE IT OUT FOR THIS YEAR, FOR APRIL? THANK YOU. YES. I NEED A VERBAL. THIS IS LIKE IN THE EXIT ROOM. OKAY. SO YES, IT'S NOT A I WOULDN'T YOURSELF OVER IT, BUT IF THERE'S A SEE IF IT WORKS MAKES SENSE. AND IF IT MAKES SENSE TO DO IT ANOTHER TIME, THAT'S WHAT WE'LL DO. BUT YES, MANAGING THE EVENT AS WE CONCEIVED IT, I THINK IS, TO YOUR POINT, THE MOST CRITICAL THING. SO YEAH. UNDERSTOOD. WE'LL LOOK INTO IT. 
          THANK YOU. I HAVE A QUESTION. YEAH. DO YOU HAVE TO BE 18 TO VOLUNTEER? NO. OKAY. THANK YOU. 
          YEAH. I THINK TYPICALLY WHEN WE ASK FOR VOLUNTEERS FOR COMMUNITY EVENTS. 15. YEAH. 
          THAT WORKS. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THE LAST THING I HAVE FOR OUR NEW AGENDA ITEM IS JUST TO REMIND YOU ALL ABOUT THE COUNCIL MEETING NEXT WEEK. I KNOW LAURA IS GOING TO ATTEND 
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AND ACCEPT THE PROCLAMATION ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD, BUT ANYONE IS WELCOME TO ATTEND WITH LAURA AND ACCEPT THE PROCLAMATION WITH HER. SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO RSVP, JUST SHOW UP. AND WHAT'S THE TIME, CHELSEA? WHAT'S THE TIME? 630 RIGHT. AND IT IS WITH THE TOWARDS THE BEGINNING OF THE AGENDA. THANK YOU. SO I WOULD GUESS YOU WOULD BE I THINK LAURA YOU INDICATED YOU NEED TO BE OUT BY SEVEN. THAT'LL BE NO PROBLEM. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. AND THEN I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU FOR THE LAST ITEM. THANK YOU. SO I'M APOLOGIZING. THIS IS KIND OF HALF BAKED BECAUSE I DID NOT SEE YOUR EMAIL, WHICH YOU THOUGHT WE COULD ADD THIS TO IT. 
          SO THAT'S WHY I WAS STAMMERING AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING. BUT AS MOST OF YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN WE STARTED THIS LAST QUARTER HAVING A SUSTAINABILITY STAKEHOLDERS MEETING WITH THE CITY. IT'S INVOLVED THE CITY REPRESENTED BY BOTH THIS BOARD AND STAFF. IT'S MANAGED BY STAFF AT THIS POINT. YOU KNOW, ALBANY COMPANIES INVOLVED PLAIN TOWNSHIP, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. CURRENTLY, WE'RE DISCUSSING AT THIS MEETING ABOUT HOW MUCH BIGGER THAT GROUP COULD BE OR WOULD BE. BUT THE BASIC IDEA IS TO SHARE IDEAS ABOUT WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH THE INDIVIDUAL GROUPS, AND TO KIND OF UNDERSTAND WHERE SOMEONE MIGHT BE THINKING ABOUT DOING SOME SORT OF SUSTAINABILITY ACTION SO THAT EVERYONE CAN KIND OF HEAR THE SAME THING AT THE SAME TIME, AND EITHER WEIGH IN WITH COMMENTS THEN, OR PROVIDE SUGGESTIONS OR SUPPORT THAT THEY MAY BE ABLE TO DO ON THEIR BASED UPON THEIR OWN KIND OF AREA OF EXPERTISE. SO WE WENT THROUGH JUST KIND OF A RECAP THIS LAST QUARTER, AND WE HAVE ONE COMING UP IN MARCH, SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN THAT I BROUGHT UP AT THAT MEETING WAS AN IDEA THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE ANY NUMBER OF THINGS THAT THIS GROUP COULD HELP COORDINATE ON. A TOPIC THAT CAME UP WAS FROM THE THE CITY HAD BEEN APPROACHED BY SOME COMPANIES ABOUT HAVING TREES TO PLANT. ANOTHER COMPANY REACHED OUT TO THE FOUNDATION WITH THE SAME KIND OF OFFERS THAT THEY HAD TRACED THE PLANTING AND ALSO LIKE, HEY, WOULDN'T THIS BE SMART IF WE HAD A STRATEGY AROUND, YOU KNOW, THE CITY WANTS TO DO THIS WITH TREE PLANTINGS AND THEN A GROUP THAT GETS INVOLVED OR HAS AN OPPORTUNITY CAN COME AND CONSULT EITHER WITH THE FORESTRY DEPARTMENT OR SERVICE DEPARTMENT. AND THERE'S SOMETHING ON PAPER TO SAY, YES, HERE'S WHAT WE'RE PRIORITIZING, WHETHER IT BE ALONG WALKING PATHS, LEISURE PATHS, WHICH IS MY BIG AX TO GRIND OR, YOU KNOW, STREETSCAPES, WHATEVER THEY MAY BE. UNDERSTANDING THAT THE CITY HAS A BUDGET THAT THEY DO CERTAIN THINGS WITH CURRENTLY, BUT THAT'S CERTAINLY IS NOT AS FUNDED AS MAYBE IT COULD BE BASED UPON. WE'D LIKE TO GET THINGS MORE A LARGER CANOPY GROWTH OR LARGE CANOPY ESTABLISHED AND GROWTH AND MAINTAINED IN THE CITY. SO I JUST WANTED. I DON'T THINK ABLE TO LIKE HAVE ENOUGH CONVERSATION AT THIS HOUR TO REACH A MOTION, BUT I JUST WANTED TO THROW OUT FOR DISCUSSION, QUESTIONS, COMMENTS AND THEN GET KIND OF A STRAW POLL AS TO DO WE FEEL LIKE THIS IS SOMETHING WE WOULD WANT TO TAKE UP AND PROPOSE IN FRONT OF COUNCIL SO THAT WHEN I HAVE THIS NEXT MEETING WITH THE STAKEHOLDERS, WE CAN SAY THERE'S SOMETHING IN PROCESS TO ESTABLISH THIS. SO IF WE COULD ALL KIND OF CHILL OR AT LEAST UNDERSTAND THAT, WE'D LIKE TO COORDINATE AMONGST ALL OF US AS TO WHAT WE'RE DOING AND HOW WE'RE DOING IT. DID THAT REACH ENOUGH OF AN IDEA TO A POINT? YEAH. OKAY. I'M GOING TO START BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE I'M THE LORAX. I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK FOR THE TREES. I THINK ANYTIME WE INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF CANOPY COVER, TREE COVER, IT ONLY HELPS YOUR CITY. IT ONLY HELPS FOR SO MANY REASONS. 
          HOWEVER, I ALSO WANT TO THROW IN THERE. PLEASE MAKE SURE WE ARE TAKING CARE OF OUR OLD GROWTH TREES AND FORESTS AS MUCH AS WE CAN BE. AND THAT GOES BACK TO OUR GREEN SPACES LIKE SWICKARD WOODS AND OTHER PLACES LIKE THAT, WHERE WE DO HAVE OLD GROWTH TREES, WE HAVE OTHER TREES THAT HAVE TO COME DOWN AND HAVE CARE FOR. I THINK THOSE ARE THINGS WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT AS WE PLANT NEW TREES. IT TAKES 20 SOME YEARS TO GET THEM, WHICH IS NEVER A BAD TIME TO PLANT A TREE. BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE UNDERSTANDING THE IMPORTANCE OF OLD GROWTH AND MAKE SURE WHEN WE PLANT TREES, ARE WE PLANTING THINGS THAT ARE THE MOST SUSTAINABLE FOR WILDLIFE, FOR OTHER THINGS, NOT JUST DO THEY LOOK NICE AND ARE THEY ORDERLY? ARE THEY DO WE UNDERSTAND THE PURPOSE OF THE TREES? THAT'S ALL I'M GOING TO SAY. THANK YOU. 
          AND IF I DIDN'T SAY IT OUT LOUD, THE TREE PLANTING AND MAINTENANCE IS HOW IT MUST HAVE THIS BE A STRATEGY TITLED SO IT IS ALL ENCOMPASSING. I CANNOT GUARANTEE WITH ALL PARTIES INVOLVED THAT THERE WILL NOT BE SOME. THIS NEEDS TO LOOK A CERTAIN WAY, I UNDERSTAND TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY, BUT I JUST, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THE CITY IN GENERAL IS COMMITTED TO 
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WORKING WITH AS MANY NATIVE SPECIES AS POSSIBLE AND, AND ALL THOSE GOOD THINGS. SO AND FRANKLY, THE HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATIONS THAT, THAT I KNOW I'VE DEALT WITH PREVIOUSLY ARE IN THAT SAME CAMP IN GENERAL. OTHER THOUGHTS, OTHER QUESTIONS, SOMETHING WE WOULD LIKE TO PROCEED WITH AT SOME POINT. YEAH. WELL, NOT YOU DON'T GET A VOTE. I'M NOT VOTING ON THAT. 
          I'M JUST SAYING I AGREE WITH THE I THINK WE NEED A COORDINATED STRATEGY. WE'VE. 
          AND I ALWAYS I FEEL LIKE I EITHER OVERSTATE OR UNDERSTATE THE NUMBER OF THE DONATION FROM SHEETS. I THINK IT'S 100,000 TREES. THEY ACTUALLY WANT TO PLANT 140,000. AND WE'RE HAVING TROUBLE COMING UP WITH A PLAN, EVEN A FIVE YEAR PHASED PLAN TO COME UP WITH THAT MANY TREES. 
          SO WE HAVE PROPOSED A DRAFT, FIVE YEAR PHASED PLAN TO THEM. SO IT'S STILL A WORK IN PROGRESS. SO TO THAT POINT WHO'S WE. WHO'S WE. RIGHT. AND I THINK THIS COULD BE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ACTUALLY PUT TOGETHER THE PLAN. WORCESTER FOREST WAIT WHAT IS THIS TITLED ARBORIST FORESTER. FORESTER, MASTER, MASTER. OKAY, SO I GUESS THAT COULD BE THE POTENTIAL COORDINATION. IF THERE'S INPUT FROM WHATEVER IS DECIDED TONIGHT AND MAYBE JUST WORKS. YEAH. OR SHARES OR SOME COLLABORATION THERE. SO THERE'S KIND OF WILL DEFINITELY NEEDS TO BE INVOLVED. MY RECOMMENDATION FOR THIS EVENING TO GET THINGS GOING. IF THIS IS SOMETHING YOU'RE INTERESTED IN. THE CITY PURSUING, WOULD BE YOU COULD MAKE A MOTION DIRECTING STAFF TO TAKE THIS PROJECT ON, AND IT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT STAFF WORKS WITH THE BOARD ON, AND THEN WE GET IT TO MORE OF LIKE A, A PACKAGE THAT WE COULD INCLUDE IN THE BOARD'S 2027 WORK PLAN AND BUDGET THAT GOES TO COUNCIL IN THE FALL, BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO BE STARTING YOUR BUDGET IN YOUR 2027 WORK PLAN IN AUGUST. SO BETWEEN NOW AND THEN, WE COULD REALLY FINALIZE SOMETHING THAT THE BOARD IS HAPPY WITH THAT YOU COULD PUT IN YOUR WORK PLAN AND BUDGET PROPOSAL THAT WOULD GO TO COUNCIL, SO YOU COULD STILL MAKE THE MOTION DIRECTING STAFF TO TAKE ON THIS PROJECT. AND THEN WHEN WEE MEET WITH THE STAKEHOLDERS IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS, WE CAN STILL NOTIFY THEM OF THIS PROJECT THAT WE'VE KICKED OFF AND THAT WE'RE UNDERTAKING, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. YES, I WISH I HAD TIME TO DRAFT THAT. BEFORE WE GET TO THAT POINT. ANY OTHER COMMENTS QUESTIONS? I HAVE ONE MORE THING TO SAY. OKAY. JUST BECAUSE I CARE SO MUCH ABOUT TREES. NO, IT WOULD BE REALLY FASCINATING IF WE COULD BRING IN A SPEAKER OR SOMEONE LIKE DOUG TALLAMY OR SOMEONE THAT UNDERSTANDS TREES, THAT'S WRITTEN ABOUT SOME REALLY INCREDIBLE BOOKS ABOUT OAK TREES AND DIFFERENT TREES. AND JUST TO KIND OF, I THINK NOT EVERYBODY'S INTO THAT, BUT I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE IN OUR AREA AND AROUND OUR AREA THAT, THAT, THAT LIKE THAT. AND THAT MIGHT BE A REALLY COOL OPPORTUNITY TO THINK ABOUT JUST ABOUT BRINGING IN, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE THAT SUPPORT THESE EFFORTS THAT HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR A LONG, LONG TIME. WE ARE NOT THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TOWN TO PLANT TREES. AND THERE'S PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT DO IT AND DO IT REALLY WELL. 
          AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT NEW ALBANY PRIDES OURSELVES. WE PRIDE OURSELVES ON THAT, RIGHT, IN DOING BEST PRACTICES AND THAT TYPE OF THING. AND I THINK THAT'S JUST AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAYBE THINK ABOUT HOW WE COULD COORDINATE IT WITH SOMETHING, MAYBE AT THE MCCOY OR SOMETHING BIGGER, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? AND SORT OF GETTING GETTING THE BUY IN AND THE EXCITEMENT OF THE COMMUNITY TO UNDERSTAND THAT PLANNING. SOME PEOPLE JUST THINK IT'S LIKE IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL. IT'S KIND OF A BIG DEAL. AND IF WE REALLY CARE ABOUT OUR COMMUNITY AND THAT TYPE OF EFFORT, I THINK WE COULD MAYBE PUSH IT JUST A LITTLE BIT FURTHER AND THINK ABOUT SOME CREATIVE WAYS WE COULD MAKE IT MORE EXCITING. I DON'T KNOW, THAT'S ALL I CAN BE ON THAT ON BOARD WITH THAT, AS I THINK AS CHELSEA'S SUGGESTING, EVEN FROM NEXT YEAR, FROM A WORKFLOW STANDPOINT OF HAVING MONEY SET ASIDE FOR HAVING THAT KIND OF THING DONE IS, YEAH, AS AN EDUCATIONAL STANDPOINT, MAKES A LOT OF SENSE. I THINK THIS IN PARTICULAR, I WAS MORE FOCUSED ON JUST BECAUSE THERE ARE PEOPLE, AGAIN, WITH THE MONEY TREES AND TRAILERS AND SHOVELS AND MONEY TO, TO DO IT. SO JUST GETTING SOME ALIGNMENT ON IT. 
          AND IT'S NOT THAT THAT THOSE ENTITIES AREN'T ALREADY COMING TO THE CITY AND ASKING FOR 
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GUIDANCE AND WHATNOT. BUT AGAIN, WE'RE ALL KIND OF LIKE I. AND CURRENTLY, OTHER THAN THE DAY IN AND DAY OUT BUDGET THAT HAPPENS, ANNUAL BUDGET FOR THE FORESTRY DEPARTMENT, IT'S MISSTATE THIS. BUT BASICALLY ARBOR DAY IS WHEN WE PLANT TREES. SURE. SO OKAY, I'M GOING TO TAKE A STAB AT THIS AND YOU CAN SAY I MOVED TO DIRECT STAFF TO ENGAGE IN A LONG TERM TREE CANOPY ESTABLISHMENT AND MAINTENANCE PROGRAM FOR THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY. I THINK I'M GONNA KEEP IT AS VAGUE AS THAT. IF THAT IS ENOUGH DIRECTION. SECOND. THAT MAKES IT REAL EASY. 
          OKAY. ALL RIGHT. YOU GAVE A SECOND. OKAY. MR. SCHUMACHER? YES. MR. BARNES? YES, MISS GALLO? YES, MISS SCOTT. YES, MR. CAUTION. YES, MISS KOPPELMAN. YES, MR. BURAK. YES. 
          MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. QUICK IDEA IS NOW. 
          GO AHEAD. I'VE JUST BEEN THINKING ABOUT HOW REALLY NEAT OUR FIELD TRIP WAS. I REALLY, REALLY ENJOYED THAT. SO THANK YOU FOR MAKING THAT HAPPEN. I FEEL LIKE A REALLY RELATIVELY SIMPLE AND NO COST THING THAT WE COULD DO WOULD BE TO LIKE, SHARE WITH THE COMMUNITY HOW COOL THAT WAS. I FEEL LIKE WE LEARNED A LOT OF THINGS. I THINK WE WERE ALL KIND OF NERDING OUT TOGETHER ABOUT HOW AWESOME THAT PROCESS WAS. AND I THINK EVEN WE WHO ARE PRETTY AWARE OF ALL OF THESE EFFORTS WERE SURPRISED AND LEARNED SOME THINGS LIKE YOU CAN IN FACT RECYCLE GREASY PIZZA BOXES AND YOU CAN RECYCLE STARBUCKS CUPS AND YOU CAN THROW AWAY, YOU KNOW, REGULAR, YOU KNOW, DOUBLE A BATTERIES. OKAY, BUT LIKE THE LITHIUM BATTERIES IN YOUR HALLMARK CARDS ARE STARTING FIRES AT WHAT IF WE JUST NEED ONE OF THESE? COOL. YOU'RE IN A LOT OF THESE ONE OF THESE EVEN JUST A LITTLE GRAPHIC, NOT EVEN ONE OF YOUR FANCY VIDEOS, BUT JUST A LITTLE SHAREABLE GRAPHIC ON INSTAGRAM AND FACEBOOK. THAT WAS LIKE, HEY, OUR SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD WENT ON THIS AWESOME FIELD TRIP AND WE LEARNED SOME THINGS THAT YOU MIGHT NOT EVEN KNOW BECAUSE WE DIDN'T EVEN KNOW. JUST, I DON'T KNOW, I FEEL LIKE EDUCATION AND RAISING AWARENESS AND JUST DOING LITTLE THINGS LIKE THAT CAN MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE AND MAKING A LITTLE GRAPHIC, I DON'T KNOW, IT'S LIKE A REALLY CHEAP WAY TO JUST SPREAD AWARENESS. AND I FEEL LIKE WE LEARNED SOME USEFUL THINGS AND WE SHOULD DISSEMINATE THAT INFORMATION IN A VERY EASY TO DIGEST WAY. AND I DON'T KNOW IF LIKE THREE PEOPLE LIKE GREAT. I WILL SAY THAT COUNCIL MEMBER KISS DID PUT TOGETHER A VERY NICE POWERPOINT THAT HE SHARED WITH THE CITY COUNCIL. YES, IT'S THE FIRST ONE I THINK I'VE DONE SINCE COLLEGE. SO AND I WILL SAY THIS PROGRAM IS MUCH EASIER NOW TO USE THAN WHEN I WAS IN COLLEGE. BUT I DID, YEAH. SHARED SOME PICTURES FROM OUR TRIP AND BUT YEAH, I THINK JOSH WOULD HAVE A FIELD DAY IF HIM AND HIS TEAM WENT DOWN THERE AND SHOT SOME VIDEO. I THINK IT'S A MISSED OPPORTUNITY TO NOT AT LEAST TELL THE COMMUNITY. LIKE WE LEARNED A FEW REALLY LIKE THE NUMBERS ON THAT MONITOR. YEAH. ABOUT GALLONS OF WATER AND PETROLEUM AND TREE SAVE WAS LIKE MIND BLOWING. SO YEAH, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. AND WE COULD MAYBE THAT COULD BE IN CONJUNCTION WITH A KICKOFF OR A LARGER DIVERSION EVENT, BECAUSE THAT KIND OF SPEARHEADS THE RECYCLING PIECE. IT'S A SHAME IF WE DON'T LIKE TELL EVERYBODY. SURE. YEAH, WE'RE HOARDING THAT KNOWLEDGE, RIGHT? NOEL'S GOING TO DO WHAT SHE CAN TO GET PEOPLE DOWN THERE. YEAH, MAYBE, AS I SAID, MAYBE IN THE INTERIM, THAT CERTAINLY COULD BE A BLURB THAT COULD GO IF WE'VE GOT SPACE IN A NEWSLETTER OR A FACEBOOK POST OF GETTING, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT JAKE WASN'T OVERSTEPPING ANYTHING BY SAYING THAT WE'RE TAKING THESE THINGS JUST SO IT'S CLEAR WHAT IS REAL AND WHAT. OH, CRAP. NOW WE'RE. YEAH. EXCELLENT CASES OF CARTONS OF PIZZA BOXES. BUT I CAME HOME AND TOLD MY WIFE. SO THERE'S ONE. YEAH. I MEAN, I WAS SHOWING MY FAMILY. I'M LIKE, LOOK AT THIS. LIKE, LOOK AT THIS. IT WAS, I DON'T KNOW, I WAS TELLING MY FRIENDS, I'M LIKE, THIS WAS REALLY NEAT. AND I FEEL LIKE THERE WAS SOME USEFUL INFORMATION WE GOT THERE THAT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL FOR PEOPLE TO HAVE. AND WE CAN GET IT TO THEM IN A VERY EASY, SIMPLE WAY. YEAH, YEAH. WE ACTUALLY THOUGHT THEY WERE 
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GOING TO PUT IT IN THE NEXT NEWSLETTER. FOR WHATEVER REASON IT HASN'T HAPPENED YET. SO WE CAN DEFINITELY GET WITH THE COMMS TEAM. AND I JUST KEEP THINKING LIKE I'M BRUSHING MY TEETH. I'M LIKE, OH, WHAT ELSE COULD WE PUT IN? LIKE A LITTLE SQUARE GRAPHIC? LIKE, I WISH I COULD SCAN THIS RIGHT NOW AND SEE IF IT'S RECYCLABLE IN YOUR HOUSE. YEAH. DICTAPHONE SPENT ALL DAY THERE. WELL, I'M GOING TO ASSUME THAT THAT IS A MEMBER COMMENT. SO WE'RE MOVING RIGHT INTO THE REST OF THE POLL MEMBERS. THAT'S THAT'S PERFECTLY FINE. IF ANYBODY ELSE HAS COMMENTS OR ANYTHING ELSE THEY'D LIKE TO SHARE. THANK YOU FOR SHARING THAT. I WOULD LIKE TO BRING UP SOMETHING ON THE. ON FEBRUARY 25TH, I WENT TO THE AI ENVIRONMENTAL RESOURCES INTEGRATIVE STUDIES SYMPOSIUM AT OTTERBEIN UNIVERSITY. IT WAS SPONSORED. THE. THE PRESENTERS. 
          I INVITED LAURA WITH ME AND SHE SAID THAT WAS A DEBBIE DOWNER EVENT. SO NEXT TIME WE GOT TO GO SOMEWHERE MORE INTERESTING AND MORE FUN. BUT WE TALKED THE THE MORE DIRECTOR OF SUSTAINABILITY WAS THERE, THE GENERAL MANAGER AND CEO OF DELCO WATER COMPANY WAS THERE. 
          THE VP OF THE OHIO ENVIRONMENTAL COUNCIL AND THE HEAD OF THE ELECTRIC UTILITY EXECUTIVE. I DON'T KNOW, HE'S FROM A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT THINGS WITH THE GRID. AND SO IT WAS FOUR DIFFERENT SPEAKERS THAT SPOKE ABOUT AI, SUPER DATA CENTERS AND SORT OF FROM DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES, FROM WATER ELECTRIC SUSTAINABILITY. AND IT WAS VERY INTERESTING. WE TOOK A LOT OF NOTES. THERE WERE A LOT OF PEOPLE THERE. I'M SURE YOU HAVE SOCIAL MEDIA, YOU'RE SEEING MORE AND MORE THINGS COME UP IN THE NEWS AS I AM. AND SO AS A PERSON OF THIS, OF A COMMUNITY, IT'S ONE THING, BUT AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF SUSTAINABILITY, WHICH I TAKE VERY SERIOUSLY, I WAS JUST HOPING THAT WE COULD SORT OF MAYBE HAVE A DISCUSSION AT SOME POINT. I'M NOT SURE HOW, I'M NOT SURE IN WHAT WAY, BUT I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE DON'T IGNORE THE FACT THAT THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION OUT THERE AND A LOT OF MISINFORMATION OUT THERE ABOUT AI, DATA CENTERS, THE ENVIRONMENT, DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT. AND SO I WAS HOPING, I'M NOT SURE WHAT I'M REQUESTING, BUT I'M JUST MAYBE OPENING IT UP FOR THOUGHT AND DISCUSSION FROM THE REST OF THE GROUP ON THEIR FEELINGS ABOUT THAT. I AM GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP BECAUSE. WE ARE ACTUALLY WORKING ON A WEB PAGE FOR THE CITY'S WEBSITE. THAT WILL BE. IT'S KIND OF THERE'S A WEB PAGE THAT WE DID FOR INTEL WHERE WE PUT A BUNCH OF INFORMATION OUT THERE FOR PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO GO AND, AND SEE THE FACTS. SO IT WOULD BE SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO WE ARE COLLECTING INFORMATION AND COMPILING ALL OF THAT TO CREATE A WEB PAGE ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE ABOUT THIS. AND I TALKED TO OUR DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR, AND SHE EVEN SUGGESTED THAT SOMEBODY COME AND GIVE A PRESENTATION TO THE BOARD IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN THAT. YEAH, VERY MUCH SO. I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT. I JUST THINK IT'S IMPORTANT, AS THE SUSTAINABILITY GROUP, THAT WE ARE ON THE SAME PAGE, WE HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING, YOU KNOW, MESSAGING IS IMPORTANT. WE ALL CARE ABOUT OUR COMMUNITY. WE WOULDN'T BE HERE, RIGHT? WE'RE NOT DOING THIS JUST BECAUSE WE DON'T CARE. WE ACTUALLY VERY MUCH CARE. AND I THINK THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S A REALLY COMPLEX ISSUE IS WHAT WE LEARNED. I DON'T KNOW, LAURA, WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS ON IT, BUT IT, IT WAS REALLY MULTIFACETED AND FASCINATING. AND THERE'S JUST NOT ONE SIMPLE YES, NO ANSWER TO ANYTHING WITH THIS. THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS TO CONSIDER. 
          AND I THINK WE HAVE TO SORT OF, YOU KNOW, OPEN THAT UP THERE AND BE VERY TRANSPARENT, BUT ALSO BE VERY WILLING TO LISTEN TO PEOPLE AND SORT OF LEARN WHAT WE CAN LEARN, RIGHT? I MEAN, THAT'S OUR JOB. AND THEN OUR JOB IS SUSTAINABILITY IS TO SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY AND, AND, AND BE HONEST AND, AND OPEN ABOUT THESE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING. SO I APPRECIATE HEARING THAT BECAUSE I WAS SORT OF LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE'RE REPRESENTING THIS, YOU KNOW, WE ALL HAVE OUR OWN PERSONAL VIEWS ABOUT WHATEVER THE TOPIC IS IN SUSTAINABILITY. 
          BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE ARE COLLECTIVE IN THE INFORMATION WE'RE PUTTING OUT AND SHARING TOGETHER FOR THE CITY. SO THANK YOU. AND DO WE HAVE A TIME FRAME ON THAT? CHELSEA? NO. OKAY. BUT IT'S IN THE WORKS. YEAH. SO NOT LIKE SOMETHING THAT'S LIKE NEXT YEAR. 
          WE'RE THINKING IN THE NEXT COUPLE MONTHS, I DON'T WANT TO PUT ANY KIND OF TIMELINE ON IT, 
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BUT I MEAN. I DON'T KNOW IF YEAH, I GUESS I DON'T WANT TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT SINCE YOU'RE NOT NECESSARILY SINCE YOU DON'T SHORT TIME. SURPRISE, YOUR MIC IS STILL ON, BUT NO, I THINK TO YOUR POINT, I THINK THIS IS THE EXACT FORUM TO ASK THOSE QUESTIONS BECAUSE IT'S A VALID CONCERN, I THINK. I MEAN, WE'VE HAD DATA CENTERS IN NEW ALBANY FOR 30 YEARS, BUT RECENTLY WITH THE JUMP TO AI IN A LOT OF THESE HYPER SCALE PROJECTS, THINGS HAVE CHANGED. 
          AND THERE IS CONCERN. AND PERSONALLY, I THINK WE I KNOW WE HAVE SOME PROJECTS IN THE PIPELINE, BUT SPEAKING JUST FOR MYSELF, I THINK WE'VE GOT ENOUGH IN NEW ALBANY NOW AND WE CAN MOVE ON TO OTHER THINGS. BUT THAT SAID THAT WE SHOULD HAVE ASKED QUESTIONS AND HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE ONES THAT ARE BEING DEVELOPED NOW. AND AND THIS IS THE EXACT GROUP TO, I THINK, PROPOSE THOSE QUESTIONS. SO I THINK THIS WILL ANSWER QUESTIONS, BUT I WOULD LOVE IF YOU HAD NOTES FROM YOUR, YOUR VISIT THAT YOU COULD SHARE WITH THE GROUP TOO. IT WAS A LOT OF NOTES. YEAH. I WOULD SAY THE BIGGEST THING, YOU KNOW, WHEN, WHEN THE GENTLEMAN SPOKE ABOUT WATER, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALREADY 5 TO 10 YEARS OUT OF HAVING SOME SERIOUS GROUNDWATER ISSUES AND FRESH WATER ISSUES. AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IT WAS INTERESTING BECAUSE THEY CAME FROM SUCH DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES, BUT THE THINGS THEY LANDED ON WERE VERY SIMILAR IN THEIR CONVERSATION AND SORT OF THEY DON'T WE'RE NOT OUT THERE TRYING TO MAKE EVERYONE FEARFUL. THAT WASN'T IT. IT WAS JUST SORT OF AN AWARENESS AND JUST UNDERSTANDING, YOU KNOW, WITH POLICY. MORSI, SHE WAS GREAT SPEAKING. AND EVEN IF WE COULD GET SOMEONE MAYBE TO SPEAK AT SOMETHING, I THINK THEY WERE ALL WONDERFUL SPEAKERS AND WE WISH WE WOULD HAVE HAD A QUESTION. DID A PANEL AT THE END WHERE THEY, THEY TOOK QUESTIONS FROM THE FROM THE GROUP. AND IT WAS JUST VERY IT WAS INTERESTING. IT'S ALMOST LIKE THINGS ARE PROGRESSING SO FAST THAT SOME GROUPS ARE SO FAR AHEAD, AND SOME OF US ARE JUST TRYING TO CATCH UP. DO YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? IT JUST KIND OF FELT LIKE IT WAS REALLY UNBALANCED THE WAY THINGS WERE HAPPENING. AND BUT EVERYBODY WAS DOING THEIR PART AND YOU REALLY GOT THAT SENSE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU THINK. I FEEL LIKE YOU WERE THERE TOO. WHAT WAS YOUR. YEAH, NO, I AGREE. AND THE, THE LADY FROM MORSI WAS I THINK IF WE WERE GOING TO GET ANYBODY TO COME IN AND SPEAK TO US, IT WOULD BE HER BECAUSE SHE LOOKED AT THE WHOLE PICTURE. YEAH. INSTEAD OF JUST, YOU KNOW, DELCO WATER. AND HE WAS KIND OF PROTECTING HIMSELF WHILE HE WAS TALKING. SO I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE A GOOD PERSON TO HAVE IN HERE IF WE COULD BRING SOMEBODY FROM THERE. YEAH. IT WAS BRANDY. YEAH. YEAH, SHE WAS GREAT. I THINK, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU SEE IN SOCIAL MEDIA AND WE HEARD PEOPLE EVEN THERE, YOU KNOW, FROM THE CROWD TALKING AND HAD SOME SERIOUS CONCERNS. THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE FROM RURAL AREAS AND THEIR CONCERNS, AND ESPECIALLY PEOPLE WHO USE WELL, WATER. YEAH, I THINK THAT WAS IT. AND THE WAR, YOU KNOW, IT WAS KIND OF PEOPLE WERE LIKE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHAT YOU SHOULD DO TO PROTECT YOUR WELL, WATER AND THIS TYPE OF THING. AND I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, CHANGE IS HARD. 
          I GET IT, I GET DEVELOPMENT, I GET, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THIS, BUT I DO ALSO, WHAT THEY ALSO BROUGHT UP IS LIKE, I MEAN, OTHER COUNTRIES OPERATE, LIKE YOU SAID, DATA CENTERS ARE NOTHING NEW. THERE'S NOT WE'VE HAD DATA CENTERS HERE. BUT WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH AI IS THEY ARE REALLY PUSHING THE SYSTEM AND YOU CAN DO MORE SUSTAINABLE PRACTICES, YOU CAN RECYCLE WATER, YOU CAN DO THINGS THAT ARE NOT GOING TO EMIT AS MUCH IN THE AIR AND SOUND AND THAT TYPE OF THING THAT IS HAPPENING IN OTHER PLACES. BUT IT TAKES TIME AND IT TAKES MORE MONEY ON BASIS OF THE COMPANY THAT'S SETTING THAT UP TO MAKE THAT DECISION. AND THERE ARE NO REGULATIONS. AND THAT'S THE PART THAT WE WANT. OH, THIS IS TERRIBLE BECAUSE IT'S SUCH A NEW THING, RIGHT? IN SMALL TOWNS DON'T ALWAYS KNOW. I MEAN, EVEN NEW ALBANY IS A FAIRLY NICE SIZED CITY, BUT WE DON'T KNOW EVERYTHING UP FRONT. AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE SORT OF WERE LIKE, WHOA, WE NEED TO LIKE, MAYBE BRING IN SOME PEOPLE TO TALK ABOUT THESE THINGS JUST TO GIVE PEOPLE PERSPECTIVE AND, YOU KNOW, UNDERSTANDING ABOUT THE COMPLEXITIES OF WHAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW. SO THAT'S ALL IT WAS INTERESTING. YEAH. 
          IT'S GREAT. IT'S GREAT TO KNOW THAT THE CITY IS DOING THAT. BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S I KNOW FOR ME, THE INTEL PAGE WAS GREAT, BUT IT WAS A IT WAS INTEL. IT FELT VERY INTEL PROVIDED. AND SO IT FELT CUT AND PASTE AS OPPOSED TO HERE WE HAVE SOME COMMENTARY ON WHY WE'RE DOING THIS. AND I THINK THERE'S PLENTY OF THINGS ABOUT IT, BUT I THINK THERE'S SOME. 
          WHY. AND WHERE DOES THE CITY STAND IN TERMS OF LIKE A LONG TERMEGY?ATEGY? I THINK I WANT TO USE THE STRATEGY THIS WHOLE MEETING, BUT, YOU KNOW, WHERE ARE WE KIND OF THING. AND TO 
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CASEY'S POINT, ARE WE IN THE EIGHTH INNING AT THIS POINT FOR THESE KIND OF THINGS OR, OR WHAT? AND SO I THINK THAT WOULD HELP QUELL SOME CONCERNS, I THINK BECAUSE YES, I MEAN, IN THE NEWS, LIKE THERE'S CITIES VOTING DOWN PLANNING, YOU KNOW, APPROVALS AND THAT KIND OF THING, IT'S LIKE SEEMS NUTS, NUTS, NUTS THAT HAS TO GET TO THAT LEVEL BECAUSE ABOUT MAYBE MISINFORMATION. SO I THINK GETTING OUT THE INFORMATION IS CLEARLY AS POSSIBLE WITHOUT HAVING TO OVERCOMMIT WOULD BE GREAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP. I THINK ABOUT OUR COMMUNITY EVERY TIME. I THINK THE DISPATCH HAS BEEN PUTTING A LOT OF ARTICLES ABOUT THIS LATELY. I HAVE SEEN THEM ALL OVER MY FEED, AND EVERY TIME YOU KIND OF WONDER, HOW IS THIS GOING TO AFFECT MY FAMILY? IS THIS MAKING THINGS UNSAFE? AND I THINK KNOWING WHAT OUR COMMUNITY IS DOING TO TO TEST THE WATER, TO KEEP THINGS IN CHECK, EVEN IF IT ISN'T REGULATED, LIKE WHAT ARE WE DOING TO MAKE SURE THIS IS OKAY AND SAFE AND GOOD? AND I THINK THAT BRINGING IT HOME FOR THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE IS IMPORTANT. YEAH, THAT INFO PAGE WAS I THINK THAT WAS AI GENERATED. I'M SURE IT WAS NOT IN. I THINK WE CAN GET PEOPLE THAT ARE FAR MORE EDUCATED ON IT THAN MYSELF, BUT LIKE SPECIFICALLY WITH WATER IN NEW ALBANY IS CITY OF COLUMBUS PROVIDES WATER, SEWER, EPA TESTS EXTREMELY. SO I DON'T THINK THIS IS. I HEARD THE UNREGULATED LIKE NOISE ORDINANCES, AIR POLLUTION, NOISE POLLUTION, ALL THOSE THINGS ARE COMPLETELY TESTED FOR THE WATER'S TESTED. SO THOSE ARE THINGS I DON'T THINK WE'RE JUST THEY BUILD DATA CENTERS AND THERE'S NO MONITORING. SOME OF THEM HAVE GONE ONLINE AND WE TURN THEM OFF IMMEDIATELY BECAUSE THEY WERE TOO LOUD AND THEY WERE AFFECTING NEIGHBORS. SO I DON'T THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY ARE UNREGULATED. WE'RE FORTUNATE THAT A LOT OF THE PARTNERS, BY THE WAY, 140,000 TREES, IT'S A DATA CENTER COMPANY. SO THEY HAVE A DATA CENTER IN NEW ALBANY, AND THEY WERE DONATING 140,000 TREES. SO META GOOGLE, THEY ARE GREAT PARTNERS WITH OUR SCHOOLS. THEY DONATE TIME, MONEY, RESOURCES. AGAIN, TO YOUR POINT, MOLLY, THERE'S A BALANCE. YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE'S A TIPPING POINT. AND, YOU KNOW, THE REASON THAT THEY WERE SUCH GOOD NEIGHBORS EARLY ON IS BECAUSE NOT A TON OF EMPLOYEES, THE AMOUNT THE CITY RECOUPS IN TAXES IS EQUIVALENT TO CLASS THREE OFFICE SPACE. THAT'S THE, YOU KNOW, WHENEVER YOU HEAR TAX ABATEMENTS, THEY'RE NOT ON A FREE RIDE. THEY ARE PAYING THE CITY WHAT IT WOULD BE FOR A CLASS THREE OFFICE BUILDING ON THAT SITE. SO FROM A TAX BASE PERSPECTIVE, THEY HELP THE CITY QUITE A BIT. 
          SO THERE IS A LOT OF GOOD THINGS. THEY DON'T YOU KNOW, THEY'RE QUIET NEIGHBORS GENERALLY. THEY DON'T CREATE A LOT OF TRAFFIC. AND IN THE PAST THERE WASN'T A LOT OF STRAIN ON INFRASTRUCTURE. NOW WITH AI IN THE HYPERSCALERS, IT THAT HAS SHIFTED. SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE DEFINITELY CONCERNED WITH. AND WHAT WAS SO ATTRACTIVE ABOUT NEW ORLEANS? WE HAD PLENTY OF POWER, WE HAD PLENTY OF WATER. AND NOW THOSE SYSTEMS ARE STRAINED. AND, YOU KNOW, THE ELECTRICITY, THE GRID IS NOW THEY'RE GENERATING THEIR OWN POWER ON SITE WITH NATURAL GAS GENERATION. SO AGAIN, THINGS TO DEFINITELY BE CONCERNED ABOUT. AND WE ARE ADDRESSING AND AGAIN, A LOT OF MISINFORMATION, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, STUFF THAT WE CAN BE CONCERNED ABOUT. AND IF AGAIN, ANY GROUP IS GOING TO RAISE CONCERNS ABOUT IT, IT SHOULD BE THISROUP GROUP. SO I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THAT UP. AND I KIND OF WISH I WOULD HAVE BEEN THERE TOO. BUT ONCE WE GET THIS DATA OUT, I THINK IT'LL BE A GREAT KIND OF STARTING POINT TO SEE, OKAY, DOES THIS GROUP HAVE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS FOR BEST PRACTICES? AND, AND AGAIN, HOPEFULLY WE ARE IN THE BOTTOM OF THE EIGHTH AND AS FAR AS THAT GOES, BUT I THINK MORE CONVERSATION THE BETTER. AND IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS IN THE MEANTIME, YOU CAN ALWAYS ASK US QUESTIONS AND WE CAN PROVIDE THE ANSWERS TO YOU. I HAVE NO ANSWERS FOR YOU TONIGHT, BUT, YOU KNOW, TRACK DOWN THE CORRECT ANSWER FOR YOU AND GET THAT TO YOU AND MAYBE WORK ON A PRESENTATION FOR YOU ALL IN THE MEANTIME, UNTIL THAT WEBSITE IS UP AND RUNNING. GREAT. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? I'M GOING TO CLOSE WITH THIS ONE, WHICH IS JUST TO SAY, WE HAVE A LITTLE SOMETHING, A LITTLE TOKEN OF APPRECIATION FOR YOU. I'LL BRING IT OVER AFTER THE 
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MEETING, BUT JUST WANTED TO RECOGNIZE THIS IS YOUR LAST MEETING AND SAVE SO MUCH APPRECIATION FOR ALL YOUR SUPPORT OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS. YOU'VE SEEN SOME SOME NICE CHANGE IN THIS BOARD AND SOME FOLKS THAT HAVE COME THROUGH THE SYSTEM FROM PROJECTS AND NOW SITTING AT THE BOARD. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. IT'S BEEN FANTASTIC. THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU EVERYONE, I APPRECIATE IT. OKAY. I MOVE NOW TO ADJOURN THE MEETING AT 830. 
          DO I HAVE A SECOND? THANK YOU. KEEP ME HANGIN. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY I, I,
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.