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IT IS. I WASN'T SURE IF MY MIC WAS WORKING. BEFORE WE BEGIN, WE WOULD LIKE TO WELCOME HUNTER RAYFIELD, WHO IS OUR NEW CITY OF COLUMBUS REPRESENTATIVE. I ASSURED HIM THAT WE DID NOT RUN OUT THE OTHER THE OTHER PEOPLE. WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING ABOUT YOURSELF IN TERMS OF INTRODUCTION BEFORE WE START? YEAH. HUNTER RAYFIELD, CITY PLANNER WITH THE PLANNING DIVISION FOR THE CITY OF COLUMBUS, BEEN THERE FOR ABOUT FOUR YEARS. FIRST TIME HERE AT A ROCKY FORK PANEL AND HAPPY TO JOIN. WELCOME. WE'RE GOING TO PUT YOU TO WORK HERE IN A FEW MINUTES. SOUNDS GOOD. ALRIGHT, SO WE CAN GO AHEAD AND GO WITH OUR OUR ROLL CALL TO GET THINGS STARTED. MR. SMITHERS HERE. MR. PAUL HERE, MR. HARPER HERE. MR. CAVALIER HERE. MR. HERSHKOWITZ
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HERE. MR. BRUBAKER HERE. MR. BILLMAN HERE, MR. SELLERS, SEVEN MEMBERS PRESENT. WE HAVE A QUORUM. OKAY, FANTASTIC. SO OUR FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS IS TO GO AHEAD AND SEEK APPROVAL[VI. Case]
FOR THE MINUTES OF OUR MARCH 19TH MEETING. AND I TRUST EVERYONE HAS HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THOSE. AND IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS, WE'LL HEAR THOSE NOW. AND IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, I WILL SEEK A MOTION FOR APPROVAL. THIS IS JAY HERSKOWITZ. I MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS WRITTEN A SECOND. I WILL SECOND PAUL. OKAY, WE'LL READ THE ROLE. MR. HERSKOWITZ YES. MR. PAUL. YES. MR. SMITHERS YES. MR. HARPER. YES. MR. CHAPEL HERE? YES. MR. BRUBAKER. YES. MR. BILLMAN. YES. ALL VOTES TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS SUBMITTED. OKAY. AND BEFORE I ASK FOR ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS TO THE AGENDA. I'D LIKE TO JUST THANK KRISTINA FOR PUTTING TOGETHER SUCH A NICE AGENDA THAT TELLS US AS CHAIRS WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING.SO GREAT JOB. THIS IS THIS IS A MUCH, MUCH EASIER THAN HAVING A CHEAT SHEET. BUT I DID NEED TO SEE IF THERE WERE ANY OTHER ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS TO THE AGENDA. NONE FROM STAFF. OKAY, SO I ASSUME THAT WE ONLY HAVE ONE PERSON SPEAKING TODAY, IS THAT CORRECT? YES. OKAY. WE HAVE TO SWEAR YOU IN BEFORE YOU TALK TO US. SO WE'LL DO THIS REAL QUICK. AND DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? YES. OKAY. SO. AND I DON'T SEE ANY VISITORS. SO WE JUST HAVE ONE CASE TODAY. IT'S A CONCEPTUAL CASE FOR 59, 53 THROUGH 60, 65 CENTRAL COLLEGE ROAD. AND I DIDN'T SEE A NUMBER ON THERE. BUT I TRUST THAT THERE IS ONE WILL WILL HAVE IT. SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND TURN IT OVER TO HUNTER TO TELL US MORE ABOUT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. YEAH. SOUNDS GOOD. I'LL KICK IT OVER TO THE POWERPOINT. SO FOR PANEL MEMBERS THAT WERE HERE IN JANUARY, THIS IS THE THIS WILL LOOK FAMILIAR. IT'S THE SECOND
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CONCEPTUAL HEARING FOR 5953 TO 6 065 CENTRAL COLLEGE ROAD. HERE WE HAVE THE SITE CONSISTS OF TWO PARCELS, APPROXIMATELY NINE ACRES IN THE CITY OF COLUMBUS. THE SITE IS ALREADY IN THE CITY OF COLUMBUS AND IS CURRENTLY ZONED LC FOUR, WHICH IS COMMERCIAL DISTRICT, CPG, WHICH IS COMMERCIAL DISTRICT, AND L A R L A L A R D, WHICH IS AN APARTMENT RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT. FOR LAND USE. THE. THE PLAN DESIGNATES THE SITE AS OFFICE. HOWEVER, THE SITE IS ALONG CENTRAL COLLEGE ROAD WHERE DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS HAVE GROWN TO INCLUDE A MIX OF USES INCLUDING COMMERCIAL, MULTIFAMILY, AND CONDOMINIUMS. THE TOWN MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS ARE MORE COMPATIBLE WITH THE PROPOSAL AND ALLOW FOR MULTI-UNIT DEVELOPMENT. THE SITE HAS AN EXISTING BUILDING AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER, COMMONLY REFERRED TO AS BUBBLY HALL. THIS BUILDING WOULD BE REMOVED AS PART OF THE PROPOSAL. THE SITE IS SURROUNDED BY EXISTING MULTI-UNIT RESIDENTIAL TO THE NORTH, EAST, SOUTH AND WEST. ADDITIONALLY, THERE IS A COLUMBIA GAS UTILITY SITE AND ACE H H H H H H H H H H H H H HT TO THE EAST. STAFF. NOTE THERE IS AN EXISTING GAS LINE THAT BISECTS THE SITE DIAGONALLY. THERE IS ALSO A STREAM CORRIDOR PROTECTION ZONE ALONG THE WESTERN EDGE OF THE SITE. THE APPLICANT PROPOSES DEVELOPMENT OF THE SITE WITH 246 DWELLING UNITS ON THE NINE ACRE SITE, AND IS CONSISTENT WITH DESIGN STANDARDS SET FORTH BY THE PLAN. HERE YOU CAN SEE THE REVISED SITE PLAN CHANGES SINCE JANUARY'S CONCEPTUAL INCLUDE AN INCREASE OF UNIT COUNT FROM 228 TO 246, AND A REORGANIZATION OF BUILDINGS, INCLUDING BREAKING THE NORTHEAST CORNER INTO TWO BUILDINGS, MOVING TWO WESTERN BUILDINGS CLOSER TO THAT STREAM. CORRIDOR PROTECTION ZONE SCREENING OF PARKING HAS BEEN REVISED TO SHRUB AND ORNAMENTAL GRASS BUFFER TO REFLECT THE NO PLANTING ZONE FOR THAT TEN FOOT GAS LINE OFFSET, KIND OF ALONG THAT SOUTHERN SOUTHERN BOUNDARY. HERE IS WHAT STAFF'S FEEDBACK WAS FOR THE JANUARY CONCEPTUAL AND KIND OF HERE IS STAFF'S NOTES OF THAT FEEDBACK BASED ON THESE UPDATED MATERIALS. SO STILL WAITING A LIGHTING PLAN, BUT ELEVATION DRAWINGS HAVE BEEN PROVIDED. SIDEWALK ONE CENTRAL COLLEGE ROAD HAS BEEN PROVIDED. MEASUREMENTS, LANDSCAPING, PARKING AND SCREENING. BICYCLE PARKING AND STAFF'S FEEDBACK AT THE TIME WAS TO ENCOURAGE INCORPORATING THAT INTO THE BUILDING, INTO THE SITE. HOWEVER, THAT'S STILL PROPOSED TO BE REMOVED. SO STAFF'S FEEDBACK FOR APRIL STAFF FIND THE PROPOSED USE TO BE APPROPRIATE BASED ON LOCATION AND SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS ALONG CENTRAL COLLEGE ROAD. STAFF NOTE THE PROPOSED PROPOSAL IS CONSISTENT WITH PLAN DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AND IS COMPATIBLE WITH SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT. GIVEN THE EMERGING MULTI-UNIT, RESIDENTIAL AND MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS IN THE AREA, STAFF FIND THE PROPOSAL TO BE AN APPROPRIATE LAND USE FOR THE SITE. ALTHOUGH PRESENTED AT A HIGHER DENSITY THAN THE ACCORD RECOMMENDATION STAFF RECOGNIZES COMPATIBLE WITH NEARBY EXISTING MULTI-UNIT DEVELOPMENTS AND BELIEVE IT ALIGNS WITH THE EXISTING CHARACTER OF THE AREA. THIS APPLICATION WAS SUBMITTED FOR CONCEPTUAL REVIEW. AS SUCH, STAFF IS NOT OFFERING A RECOMMENDATION AT THIS TIME. THAT IS ALL FOR STAFF'S PORTION OF THE PRESENTATION. DEVELOPER APPLICANT HAS HAS A FOLLOW UP PRESENTATION. OKAY, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GIVE THE FLOOR TO THE APPLICANT. QUICK QUESTION FOR STAFF. WHAT IS THE CITY CASE NUMBER AT THIS TIME? CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. THERE'S NOT BEEN A REZONING FILED. OKAY. SO ONCE THAT REZONING APP, THAT REZONING ACTION HAS BEEN FILED AND IT WOULD BE ASSIGNED TO CITY REZONING. CASE NUMBER.THANK YOU. OKAY. WELL THANK YOU. THANKS, EVERYBODY FOR YOUR TIME. I KNOW WHEN I WAS UP HERE IN JANUARY, I GAVE SOME BACKGROUND ON AVENUE PARTNERS. IT'S MOSTLY FAMILIAR FACES HERE. I'M HAPPY TO GET INTO THAT IF YOU WANT ME TO, BUT I THINK YOU SHOULD PROBABLY STATE YOUR NAME AND COMPANY AND SO FORTH. JUST FOR THE RECORD. SORRY, PAUL. PARTY WITH AVENUE PARTNERS. SORRY.
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AND SO I CAN IF ANYBODY WANTS BACKGROUND ON AVENUE PARTNERS, HAPPY TO JUST LET ME KNOW. AND THEN I WON'T GO INTO AS MUCH DETAIL AS I DID LAST TIME, BUT JUST BECAUSE I SAW THAT COMMENT FROM THE CITY OF COLUMBUS ABOUT THE ORIGINAL COMMENT WAS, IS THERE A WAY TO SAVE THE THE BUBBLY HALL? AND, YOU KNOW, JUST THE BACKGROUND THERE? BUBBLY HALL HAS COMPLETED THE FORECLOSURE PROCESS. THERE'S STILL THE DEED STILL NEEDS TO BE FILED, BUT THE OWNERSHIP HAS HAS TRANSFERRED TO THE LENDER ON THAT. THEY STARTED TRYING TO FORECLOSE ON IT, I THINK 2 OR 3 YEARS AGO. I DON'T KNOW WHY IT TOOK THAT LONG, BUT IF ANYBODY WANTS MORE DETAILS, I KNOW A LITTLE BIT. I DON'T KNOW EVERYTHING, BUT THERE'S A LONG HISTORY OF THERE BEING SOME SOME ISSUES THERE THAT NEEDED TO BE WORKED THROUGH. I, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A REASON WHY THE NORTH MARKET IS A NONPROFIT. THE ECONOMICS ARE TOUGH ON, ON, ON THE FOOD HALL. WE IN THE MEANTIME, YOU KNOW, WORKED WITH SOME VERY GOOD SOME OF THE TOP BROKERS IN TOWN WHO HAVE WORKED WITH SOME ATTRACTIVE USES TRYING TO SEE IF, IF THERE WAS, YOU KNOW, SOME LEGS TO THIS TYPE OF USE THAT WE THOUGHT WOULD BE GREAT FOR THAT BUILDING OR THAT TYPE OF USE.AND UNFORTUNATELY, WE WERE UNSUCCESSFUL WITH THAT. BUT I JUST, I MEAN, WE DID LEGITIMATELY TRY TO POUND THE PAVEMENT WITH, WITH WITH THAT. I MEAN, WE CAN'T, WE'RE UNDER A TIMELINE WITH, WITH, WITH THE SELLER, RIGHT? SO WE DON'T, YOU KNOW, IF WE DID THAT FOR 5 OR 10 YEARS, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THE ANSWER ENDS UP BEING DIFFERENT ON, ON SOMETHING. BUT A LOT OF THE ATTRACTIVE USERS THEY HAVE THERE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF PROTOTYPES THAT THEY WANT TO USE. AND, AND A LOT OF PEOPLE GOT TURNED OFF BY THAT. THIS IS AN ODD SHAPED BUILDING. SO.
REFRESHING. AGAIN, SOME OF THE TOP SITE PLANNING CONSIDERATIONS WAS PRESERVING THE THE STREAM CORRIDOR PROTECTION ZONE. YOU KNOW, WE SO SO WE'RE SITE PLANNING. YEAH.
THANKS. THERE'S THE SUPREME COURT OF PROTECTION ZONE RIGHT THERE. WE WANTED TO KEEP THE PARKING SCREENED BEHIND THE BUILDINGS FRONTING CENTRAL COLLEGE. AND IT'S NOT A HUGE DEAL. BUT JUST SO YOU GUYS KNOW, THE THE PROPORTIONS ON THIS ARE A LITTLE BIT OFF. I THINK THIS IS STRETCHED A LITTLE BIT MORE VERTICALLY. LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, THIS BUILDING IS JUST AS WIDE AS THIS BUILDING. YOU KNOW, THESE TWO BUILDINGS HAVE SIMILAR DEPTHS. AND IT'S JUST THIS IS STRETCHED A LITTLE BIT HEIGHT WISE, THE WAY IT WAS FIT INTO THIS PRESENTATION. BUT.
THE THIS IS OUR PRIMARY ACCESS POINT RIGHT HERE. BUT THERE IS RECIPROCAL EASEMENT ACCESS SO THAT THE CONDO ASSOCIATION CAN COME THROUGH OUR PROPERTY. AND THEN WE CAN GO THROUGH THEIR PROPERTY OUT HERE TO NEW ALBANY. AND THERE'S ALSO ANOTHER ACCESS DRIVE RIGHT HERE. THAT'S A RIGHT IN RIGHT OUT THAT THIS IS JUST PART OF THE THEY CALL IT THE WISHBONE DISTRICT THERE THAT WAS SET UP, YOU KNOW, DECADES AGO THAT ALL THESE AREAS STAYED IN, STAYED IN PLACE AS PART OF WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING HERE. RIGHT IN, RIGHT OUT. THAT'S PROBABLY. YEAH. YEP, YEP. OKAY. THE OTHER BIG SITE PLANNING CONSTRAINT THAT I, I BROUGHT UP WITH YOU GUYS IN JANUARY THAT I MENTIONED WE WERE WORKING THROUGH, I MEAN, IT'S CENTRAL COLLEGE SOLD THIS EASEMENT TO TRANSCANADA ENERGY, WHICH HAS TWO ENGINEERS IN CALGARY, ALBERTA, COVERING THE ENTIRE UNITED STATES. AND SO, YOU KNOW, JUST BECAUSE IT TAKES THEM A MONTH IN BETWEEN RESPONSES BACK TO US, THE SELLER ISN'T GIVING US MORE TIME TO FIGURE STUFF OUT. AND SO IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US TO TRY TO BE PRODUCTIVE IN THE FEEDBACK SETTINGS WITH, WITH YOU GUYS. YOU KNOW, I REALLY WOULD LOVE TO GET TO A SPOT WHERE WE KNOW WHERE THINGS ARE WHEN WE'RE COMING IN FOR THE FORMAL VOTE. SO I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS, YOU KNOW, COMING BACK IN HERE AND GIVING YOUR TIME AND GIVING SOME MORE FEEDBACK. BUT AS I MENTIONED IN JANUARY, THE, YOU KNOW, WE DID OUR NORMAL SITE PLANNING THAT WE WOULD HAVE DONE OVER A GAS EASEMENT WHEN WE STARTED THIS. AND, YOU KNOW, TC ENERGY DOESN'T DO THINGS THE SAME WAY THAT COLUMBIA GAS DOES. AND SO THEY HAVE THEIR, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T PUT ANYTHING WITHIN TEN FOOT OF OF THE PIPE. YOU CAN'T PUT ANYTHING HIGHER THAN FIVE FEET FROM A PLANNING PERSPECTIVE ANYWHERE IN THIS 85 FOOT WIDE GAS EASEMENT. RIGHT? THERE'S ONE PIPE HERE WHERE THAT LINE IS, AND YOU CAN'T PUT ANYTHING WITHIN TEN FEET OF THAT. RIGHT. SO BUT THEN
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THERE'S ALSO RULES FOR THE ENTIRE WIDTH OF, OF THIS EASEMENT RIGHT HERE. SO THE LATEST FEEDBACK THAT WE GOT FROM TRANSCANADA ENERGY THAT WAS THAT THEY LIKED EVERYTHING ABOUT THIS SITE PLAN. THEY ACTUALLY WENT OUT AND HAD THEIR STAFF COME ON SITE AND TEST THE SOIL AND THE KIND OF SOUNDNESS OF THE PIPELINE IN THESE CROSSING AREAS. WE ORIGINALLY HAD ANOTHER THIRD CROSSING AREA RIGHT HERE, WHERE WE WERE GOING TO PUT SOME PARKING RIGHT HERE, AND THEY DIDN'T WANT A THIRD CROSSING AREA. THEY SAID, WE JUST LIKE TWO CROSSINGS. YOU GUYS GOT TO HAVE TWO CROSSINGS, OKAY, WE GOT TO CHANGE OUR SITE PLAN, MAKE IT. SO NOW THIS IS A GREEN SPACE. THE LAST FEEDBACK WE GOT FROM THEM, WHICH I'M STILL WAITING FOR THE NEXT ROUND OF FEEDBACK FOR THAT, WAS THAT THEY LIKE EVERYTHING ABOUT THIS SITE PLAN, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ONE THING, PART OF THIS AREA RIGHT HERE, THERE'S A TURN. SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TWEAK THIS SITE PLAN ONE MORE TIME SO THAT AS THIS CROSSES RIGHT HERE, THERE CAN'T BE A TURN. VEHICLES HAVE TO DRIVE STRAIGHT ACROSS IT INSTEAD OF TURNING ACROSS IT. SO THIS IS THE TYPE OF THING THAT WE'RE DOWN TO. AND THIS IS WHY LIKE I, I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU GUYS GIVING THIS FEEDBACK. THERE WILL BE A SLIGHT TWEAK HERE, YOU KNOW, BUT, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF THE EXTENT OF IT. AND I DON'T WANT TO, I KNOW, I FEEL LIKE I, I KNOW THAT ENDED UP BEING A, A HUGE TOPIC IN, IN THE, IN THE FIRST MEETING. AND SO I HAVE A WHOLE PAGE OF NOTES AND FOLLOW UP RESEARCH THAT I DID ON THAT. SO MAYBE I'LL GET THROUGH THIS OTHER STUFF AND THEN I CAN COME BACK TO THE, THE GAS LINE STUFF. BUT I DID A LOT OF FOLLOW UP RESEARCH ON, ON ON THAT. THE PROJECT DID INCREASE BY 18 UNITS, BUT IT'S NOT BECAUSE THE SIZE OF THE BUILDINGS GOT BIGGER, IT'S BECAUSE WE RECALIBRATED THE UNIT MIX. YOU KNOW, A COMBINATION OF STUDYING THE MARKET AND THEN UPDATING OUR PROTOTYPE BUILDINGS. WE HAVE MORE ONE BEDROOMS NOW THAN WE DID BEFORE. YOU KNOW, WE'RE WE'RE CLOSER TO, YOU KNOW, CALL IT TWO THIRD ONE BEDROOM AND STUFF INSTEAD OF 50, 51 BEDROOMS. AND, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE GET TO THE ARCHITECTURE SIDE OF IT, YOU CAN SEE THE DIFFERENCES IN THE ARCHITECTURE.SO, SO THAT'S, THAT'S PART OF WHAT CHANGED. AND YOU KNOW, I'M STILL LEARNING, THIS IS MY FIRSRSRSRSRSRSRSRSRSRSRSRSRSRSRM STILL LEARNING HOW ALL THIS WORKS. BUT WE THIS IS IN THE NEW ALBANY BUSINESS PARK, SO WE HAD TO WORK WITH THE NEW ALBANY BUSINESS PARK ASSOCIATION. THEY HAVE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW AND, AND, AND APPROVAL. SO PART OF WHAT I'VE BEEN DOING OVER THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS IS, IS CONNECTING. IT'S BASICALLY THE NEW ALBANY COMPANY THAT RUNS THAT. RIGHT? MEANING WHAT THEIR ARCHITECT AND HIS FEEDBACK ON THE ORIGINAL RENDERINGS AND ELEVATIONS THAT WE SHOWED YOU GUYS WAS THAT THEY DON'T LIKE OVERLAPPING FORMS, AND THEY WANTED TO SIMPLIFY THE EXTERIOR MATERIAL PATTERNS. DO YOU MIND? I DON'T THINK I HAVE A CLICKER.
DO YOU MIND GOING FORWARD TO SEE IT RIGHT HERE? SO, YOU KNOW, BEFORE WE HAD LIKE GABLES WITHIN GABLES, THEY DIDN'T LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW, AND YOU KNOW, AND WE HAD IT. IF YOU WENT BY ONE OF OUR OTHER PROJECTS, YOU COULD ARTICULATE THIS A LITTLE BIT BETTER, BUT WE GOT RID OF SOME OF THE CHANGES IN MATERIALS TO SIMPLIFY THE MATERIALS. AND I THINK IT LOOKS GREAT. I APPRECIATE A LOT OF THEIR SUGGESTIONS. THE OTHER BIG THING THAT THAT THEY HAD IS WE DIDN'T HAVE A WHITE HORSE FENCE OUT IN FRONT, AND THAT'S A NONSTARTER. SO WE HAD WE PUT THE WHITE HORSE FENCE OUT FRONT. AND, YOU KNOW, I, I, WE'VE BEEN RESEARCHING THE EXTERIOR MATERIALS. I'M HAPPY TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU GUYS IN THE VEIN OF, HEY, I'D LOVE TO GET YOUR FEEDBACK ON THAT TYPE OF STUFF NOW. SO WE'RE NOT SURPRISED WHEN WE COME FOR, FOR A FORMAL VOTE. I DON'T KNOW, LIKE IF WE COME HERE FOR THE FORMAL VOTE, I CAN PUT TOGETHER MORE OF A BOARD. THIS STUFF WAS JUST COMING IN RECENTLY. AND SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU GUYS LIKE TO SEE. CAN YOU GIVE ME IS IT GOOD TO JUST SET THESE UP ON THE DESK RIGHT HERE? HOW ABOUT HOW ABOUT GOING THROUGH THE SITE PLAN? YEAH YEAH, YEAH. DO YOU MIND GOING BACK TO THE SITE PLAN? ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT. WAS FEEDBACK FROM JANUARY WAS TO GET FEEDBACK FROM FROM THE CONDOS. SO I REACHED OUT TO THE CONDO ASSOCIATION PRESIDENT AND MANAGER AND MET WITH THEM AT THE CLUBHOUSE. I NEED TO CLARIFY, THIS WAS NOT THE ENTIRE CONDO ASSOCIATION. THIS WAS THE CONDO BOARD AND THE MANAGER FOR. AND, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY SAID, HEY, THIS IS NOT A FORMAL ZONING REQUEST. WHEN YOU GUYS HAVE A FORMAL ZONING REQUEST, THEN WE'LL
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BLAST IT OUT TO EVERYBODY. YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT TO DO THAT RIGHT NOW. AND SO I'M FOLLOWING THEIR LEAD. ALL I CAN DO IS GIVE THE FEEDBACK THAT I WAS GIVEN. AND I DON'T I MEAN, WE STILL HAVE TO GO ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE ENGINEERING PROCESS WITH THE CITY OF COLUMBUS, SO THEY COULD COME UP WITH SOME WAYS FOR WHY WE HAVE TO CHANGE SOME THINGS BACK. BUT ONE OF THE PIECES OF FEEDBACK WAS PREVIOUSLY THESE BUILDINGS DOWN HERE IN JANUARY HAD CARRIAGE HOUSE UNITS ABOVE THE GARAGES, AND THEY REQUESTED THAT WE FIND A ANOTHER SPOT TO PUT CARRIAGE HOUSES. SO SO WE DID THAT. THESE ARE JUST GARAGES HERE RIGHT NOW. THAT SHOULD PROVIDE GOOD, GOOD SCREENING AND WON'T HAVE UNITS ABOVE THEM. AND THEN THEY WANTED US TO MOVE THE THE DUMPSTER THAT WAS RIGHT HERE PREVIOUSLY. AND SO WE PUT THAT RIGHT THERE, WHICH, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T LOVE HAVING IT CLOSE TO OUR CLUBHOUSE, BUT WE'RE WILLING TO STOMACH THAT. BUT WE STILL HAVE A QUESTION OF, IS COLUMBUS GOING TO BE OKAY WITH WITH THIS? AND YOU KNOW, WHAT DOES THAT DO WITH FIRE ACCESS AND ALL THAT? SO ANYWAYS, WE'RE THIS IS WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING.WE STILL HAVE TO FINALIZE GOING THROUGH ALL THAT PROCESS WITH WITH THE CITY OF COLUMBUS, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO BE RESPONSIVE ON SOME OF THOSE COMMENTS. WE, YOU KNOW, THIS PREVIOUSLY WAS A FIVE FOOT SETBACK. NOW THIS IS BETWEEN 15 AND 18FT ALONG HERE, AND WE'RE PULLED FAR ENOUGH AWAY THAT, YOU KNOW, WE COULD TRY TO PUT SOME SHRUBS HERE TO TO BLOCK. WE CAN'T PUT A FENCE THERE. I MEAN WE'RE JUST IT'S IT'S NOT TC ENERGY DOESN'T ALLOW IT. SO WE'RE WE'RE WE'RE GOING TO PUT AS DENSE A SHRUBS THERE AS, AS WE CAN, BUT WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO GO ABOVE FIVE FEET. SO. AND YOU KNOW, WHEN I MET WITH THE CONDO ASSOCIATION I SAID, HEY GUYS, IF YOU GUYS ARE OPEN TO US PUTTING MORE PLANNING ON YOUR PROPERTY HERE, I MEAN, THIS IS A VERY WIDE EASEMENT AREA RIGHT HERE, RIGHT? LIKE THERE'S TONS. I MEAN, WE WILL WORK WITH YOU ON THAT IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS WANT TO DO. AND THEY'RE LIKE, WELL, WE'LL THINK ABOUT IT. YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, PLAY CATCH WITH THEIR DOGS OUT THERE AND WE DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE GOING TO WANT EXTRA PLANTINGS THERE OR NOT, BUT WE'RE OPEN TO DOING THAT IF THEY'RE UP FOR IT, THERE'S THIS THERE'S A GOOD SIZED MOUNTAIN RIGHT HERE TOO THAT HELPS PROVIDE SOME SOME GOOD, GOOD ELEVATION AROUND THERE. SO I THINK THAT'S REALLY SITE PLAN WISE. THE MAIN THINGS THAT I WANTED TO COVER BEFORE WE OPEN THAT UP TO QUESTIONS, YOU GUYS WANT TO TALK SITE PLAN QUESTIONS AND THEN I CAN, YEAH, WE CAN GO AHEAD AND OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS. OKAY. HAVE YOU CONSIDERED WHERE STORMWATER DETENTION WILL BE PROVIDED? YEAH. WELL, IT'S WE'RE, YOU KNOW, MAKING THE INVESTMENT AND PUTTING IT SUBGRADE. SO IT'S UNDER THE PARKING LOTS NOW. WE CAN'T PUT IT IN THE EASEMENT AREAS, BUT IT'S. YEAH. SO LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, WE COULDN'T, WE COULDN'T PUT IT RIGHT THERE. RIGHT. SO, BUT WE CAN PUT IT UNDER THE PARKING AREAS THAT ARE OUTSIDE THE EASEMENT, OUTSIDE THE EASEMENT. THANK YOU.
YEAH. I GUESS ONE THING I'LL POINT OUT, BECAUSE I KNOW THIS WAS A COMMENT TOO, OR A QUESTION WAS THE SETBACK HERE. SO AND JUST TO REMIND EVERYBODY, THE PREVIOUS OWNER WHO DEVELOPED LOVELY HALL GOT A SITE PLAN APPROVED FOR THIS. THEY JUST DIDN'T EXECUTE ON IT.T HAD BUILDINGS CLOSER TO THE PROPERTY LINE HERE. THEY ALSO HAD A 20 FOOT SETBACK. HERE WE HAVE A 25 FOOT SETBACK. SO WE'RE ACTUALLY A BIGGER SETBACK THAN WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN APPROVED HERE. AND THEN I YOU KNOW, I HAD NOTED THAT, YOU KNOW, THE SETBACK IS ONE THING, BUT THE ACTUAL DISTANCE TO THE STREET IS ANOTHER THING. AND OUR ADVANCED CIVIL DESIGN CONFIRMED THAT WHERE THESE BUILDINGS ARE LOCATED IS BETWEEN 53 AND 55FT BACK FROM THE STREET, WHICH AGAIN, THAT'S THAT'S FURTHER BACK THAN THE SITE PLAN THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED. AND THESE, THESE BUILDINGS RIGHT HERE ARE THE WAY THE SITE PLAN WAS PREVIOUSLY. THEY HAD BUILDINGS RIGHT UP ON RIGHT UP ON THIS LINE HERE BEFORE. SO ANYWAYS, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE HERE, YOU PROBABLY LIKE THAT. SO. YEAH. WHAT OTHER QUESTIONS? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS. FIRST OF ALL, WHEN THEY WERE READING. THEY DIDN'T MENTION ANYTHING ABOUT A GAS LINE BEING ACROSS THE FRONT. THEY TALKED ABOUT THE THE MAIN ONE GOING DIAGONALLY. BUT ISN'T THERE ALSO A GAS LINE THAT GOES FROM THE. GAS HOUSE THERE DOWN CENTRAL COLLEGE ROAD FOR. MAYBE A THIRD OF A MILE AND THEN CUTS NORTHWEST WITH A MAJOR LINE GOING IN. WESTERVILLE. YEAH, YOU'VE GOT MOST OF THE MAJOR UTILITIES IN CENTRAL COLLEGE.
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OKAY, SO THERE'S ANOTHER GAS LINE THERE. SO THIS DIAGRAM HERE IS INDICATING A ROW OF TREES ALONG THE STREET. IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH. WE SO TREES RIGHT HERE ARE NOT IN THE EASEMENT. AND THEN WE'LL WORK WITH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S WELL, I DON'T THINK I DON'T THINK WHERE IS THAT GAS LINE IN RELATION TO THE BUILDINGS VERSUS THE STREET. BECAUSE I THINK I THINK IT'S ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE RIGHT AWAY LINE. BUT SO IT'S IT'S IN THE I'LL, I'LL, I'LL FOLLOW UP WITH THAT AND I CAN GIVE THAT EXACT LOCATION TO YOU. OKAY. THAT WAS ONE OF MY QUESTIONS.THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE WAS THAT AND THEY DIDN'T DIDN'T PARTICULARLY LIKE THE TWO STORY STRUCTURE YOU HAD THERE CLOSE TO THE SINGLE SINGLE STORY CONDOS, BUT YET YOU'RE HAVING RIGHT NEXT TO IT IS A THREE STORY BUILDING. AND MY THOUGHT PROCESS OVER THE YEARS HAS BEEN WE'VE TRIED TO NOT HAVE A DRASTIC STEP FROM 1 TO 3, BUT, YOU KNOW, A STEP UP. THAT'S THAT'S ANOTHER ONE OF MY CONCERNS. AND IF IF THE TREES ALONG CENTRAL COLLEGE ROAD THERE, WHY WOULDN'T THEY BASICALLY SAY THE SAME THING. YOU CAN'T HAVE ANY TREES ALONG THE EASEMENT WHERE THE PIPELINE IS,GOING TO TAKE UP MOST OF THE EASEMENT ON EACH SIDE OF THE THE GAS LINE ON THE FRONT THERE. YEAH. SO THIS IS, YOU KNOW, WE, WE PUT IN A, A LANDSCAPE PLAN PALETTE PLAN. THAT WAS ANOTHER THING I'D LOVE TO GET FEEDBACK FROM YOU GUYS ON IS WHAT LANDSCAPE PLAN FEEDBACK THAT YOU HAVE? WELL, I'M JUST SEEING IF, IF THEY'RE GOING TO USE THE SAME RULES ON ONE SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, THEY SHOULD BE USING THE SAME RULES ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, IN WHICH CASE IT'S NO TREES, IS THAT THIS IS NOT A TC ENERGY EASEMENT UP HERE. THAT THIS IS THE TC ENERGY EASEMENT RIGHT HERE. COLUMBIA GAS STILL HAS OWNS UP THE MAJORITY OF ITS EASEMENTS THAT IT PREVIOUSLY OWNED. AND I DON'T I DON'T KNOW THE DIFFERENTIATION WHY THEY SOLD SOME BUT NOT THE OTHERS.
BUT CERTAINLY AT A MINIMUM WE CAN CONTINUE THE SAME TREE PATTERN THAT'S UP AND DOWN OTHER PARTS OF CENTRAL COLLEGE. AND I WOULD SAY, GENERALLY SPEAKING, WE'VE INVESTED MORE IN LANDSCAPING THAN OTHER MULTI-FAMILY. WELL, AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH TREES WHERE YOU HAVE TREES. I'M JUST SAYING IF THEY'RE GOING TO USE THE SAME. RULE OR REGULATION ON THE ONE, YOU MAY HAVE TO MODIFY THAT AGAIN. SO THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING YOU WOULD WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT TO SEE IF, IN FACT, YOU CAN PLANT TREES IN THAT AREA. YEAH, I'LL CONFIRM WITH THAT. I MEAN, WE WORKED WITH AND POD DESIGN ON THIS. OKAY. THE OTHER, THE OTHER THING, THE QUESTION I HAVE IS YOU MENTIONED MOUNTING, BUT THAT WAS ON THE WAS THAT ON THE CONDO SIDE, YOU SAY? YEAH, YEAH. OKAY. YOU SAID IT WAS NOT SIGNIFICANT, BUT WHAT WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? IT WAS IT FIVE FEET HIGH, THREE FEET HIGH. I DIDN'T GO OUT AND, AND TAKE A TOPO ON IT IF I HAD TO. THERE'S A THERE'S SOME VIEW OF THAT, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT MIGHT BE TOWARDS THE BEGINNING OF THE PRESENTATION. SET IT DOWN ON THE LEFT. YEAH. MAYBE SCROLL TO THE NEXT ONE AS WELL. SO YOU CAN KIND OF. YEAH. SO THIS IS THIS IS THE VIEW, RIGHT? THIS IS THE TOP OF THE MOUND RIGHT HERE. YOU KNOW, THIS IS PART OF THE MOUND RIGHT THERE. I WOULD, I DON'T IT'S AT LEAST THREE FEET. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S FIVE FEET, BUT IT'S SOMEWHERE IN THAT TERRITORY. WELL, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO MOUNTING OVER THERE EASEMENT AREA BECAUSE THEY WANT THEIR PIPE X NUMBER OF FEET BELOW SURFACE IF THEY NEED TO GET INTO IT. YES. WE'RE NOT PROPOSING MOUNDING ON OUR ON OUR PROPERTY, BUT WE I MEAN, IF ANYTHING, WE'RE GOING TO ADD MORE FILL. WE'RE NOT GOING TO TAKE AWAY FILL. THAT WAS ONE OF THE, YOU KNOW, AND THE LAST ITEM I HAVE AT THIS POINT IN TIME IS HOW DOES YOUR LAYOUT COMPARE WITH SETBACKS IN STORY HEIGHT FROM THE APARTMENTS DIRECTLY ACROSS THE ROAD ON CENTRAL COLLEGE AND THE ONES DIRECTLY TO THE WEST AT THE GRAMERCY? ARE YOU ARE YOU SITTING CLOSER TO THE ROAD THAN WHAT EITHER OF THOSE ARE OR I, I DON'T HAVE THE MEASUREMENTS OF THOSE PROJECTS. OKAY. IF WE'RE DIFFERENT, WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT CRAZY FAR OFF BECAUSE YOU'RE YOU'RE ALREADY NARROWING THE WHAT ORIGINALLY HAD BEEN THE SETBACK FOR WHAT THAT WAS ALONG CENTRAL COLLEGE ROAD ON THE ROCKY FORK, BLACK LAKE. SO YEAH, YOU YOU HAVE MORE YOU HAVE MORE HISTORY THAN I DO. I, I, I JUST LOOK BACK TO THE SITE PLAN THAT WAS APPROROR THIS
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AND IT WAS A 20 FOOT SETBACK. SO WE'RE FURTHER BACK THAN THE SITE PLAN THAT'S CURRENTLY APPROVED FOR, FOR THE OKAY. AND WHAT'S WHAT'S THE I GUESS I DID HAVE ANOTHER WHAT'S THE DENSITY DIFFERENCE WITH WHAT YOU HAVE VERSUS WHAT HAD BEEN PREVIOUSLY APPROVED VERSUS THE TWO ACROSS THE STREET? AND BESIDES YOU. SO THE SITE PLAN THAT PREVIOUSLY APPROVED WAS A DIFFERENT CONCEPT. IN GENERAL, IF WE GO TO DO YOU MIND GOING BACK TO THE SITE PLAN? SO THEY THEY HAD A GROUND FLOOR DRIVE THROUGH OPERATION RIGHT HERE WITH ANOTHER INGRESS EGRESS RIGHT HERE. AND THEN THEY HAD OFFICE COMMERCIAL RIGHT HERE. AND THEN THEY HAD MORE, THEY HAD GROUND FLOOR COMMERCIAL IN MOST BUILDINGS. AND THEN IN THE BACK HERE THEY HAD THEY WERE TRYING TO DO A CONDO STYLE PROJECT, WHICH I DON'T KNOW. AND THERE AREN'T MANY PEOPLE DOING LIKE 18 UNIT CONDO. I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW MANY, BUT IT WAS NOT A MULTIFAMILY PROJECT. IT WAS BEING DRIVEN BY SOME OF THE COMMERCIAL. IT HAD, IT HAD THREE STORIES WITH, WITH, WITH RESIDENTIAL ABOVE COMMERCIAL. BUT IT'S, YOU KNOW, THEY WEREN'T, THEY WEREN'T TRYING TO BUILD A MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY HERE. SO YEAH, HAVE YOU DONE LIKE A MARKET ANALYSIS AND YOU'RE LIKE ROCK SOLID ON WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING? YES, ABSOLUTELY. YES. I'M BUMMED OUT BECAUSE I LOVE BUBBLY. YOU HAD SOME GOOD FRIED CHICKEN THERE. YEAH, YEAH. NO, I. YEAH. AND I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY LIKE THIS IS NOT THE CLOSING OF BUBBLY. HALL HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH AVENUE PARTNERS. I MEAN, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WAS STARTED THREE YEARS AGO AND, AND FINALLY CAME TO A CONCLUSION. AND, YOU KNOW, I, I ACTUALLY, I MEAN, I MADE THE COMMENT TO THE SELLER, LIKE, GUYS, THERE IS NO RUSH TO, TO CLOSE THIS. LIKE WE ARE NOT BREAKING GROUND RIGHT NOW. LIKE, AND THEY WERE IN A RUSH TO CLOSE IT. SO. SO YEAH. OKAY. SO THAT'S ANY OTHER SITE PLAN QUESTIONS? OKAY. IS IT IT IS. I MEAN, IS THIS SOMETHING WHERE IT MAKES SENSE? IS THERE NODDING LIKE, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WE THINK COULD GET SUPPORT THIS, THIS SITE PLAN? OR IS THERE ANY, YOU KNOW, INDICATION OF WHETHER IT'S POSITIVE? I MEAN, I THINK IT WAS GENERALLY POSITIVE. WELL, I'LL, I'LL SPEAK FOR MYSELF. I DO APPRECIATE YOUR ATTENTION TO ALL OF THE DETAILS, ESPECIALLY AROUND THE GAS LINES. AND I KNOW THAT THOSE WERE SOME BIG ISSUES. AND THAT'S THOSE HAVE BEEN TALKED ABOUT MORE THAN MORE THAN, YOU KNOW, THE LAST TIME YOU WERE HERE. SO I, I APPRECIATE THAT. I ALSO APPRECIATE THAT YOU'VE SPOKEN TO THE NEIGHBORS THAT THAT'S REALLY HELPFUL. SO I'LL JUST SAY THAT. OKAY. I'D LIKE TO ECHO WHAT RALPH IS SAYING. ALSO, THANKS FOR FOLLOWING UP WITH ALL THE QUESTIONS WE HAD THAT YOU ADDRESSED ALL ALL OF OUR QUESTIONS FROM JANUARY AND SO FORTH. AND I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR THE COMMITTEE EITHER. THE THE ACCORD, BUT AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, I DON'T MIND PUTTING THIS UP FOR APPROVAL OR NOT APPROVE, YOU KNOW, AND SO THAT YOU CAN MOVE ON WITH YOUR PROCESS, BECAUSE I THINK YOU'VE DONE A GOOD JOB OF BEING HERE IN JANUARY AND BEING HERE TODAY.SO THANK YOU. THAT'S MY TAKE. BUT AGAIN, THAT MIGHT NOT BE THE WAY THE VOTE COMES OUT. I DON'T KNOW. TO TO THAT POINT, I'LL HAVE BEEN BECAUSE I SPOKE WITH PLANNING LEADERSHIP SINCE A REZONING HASN'T BEEN FILED AT THIS TIME. BUT SO IF THE PANEL IS COMFORTABLE MOVING FORWARD.
IT'S. THE PANEL WOULD DEFER TO STAFF'S JUDGMENT AT THE TIME OF THE REZONING THAT THE. THE PROPOSAL HASN'T SUBSTANTIALLY CHANGED FROM WHAT THE PANEL IS SEEING. AND IF IT HAS, THEN IT WOULD BE THE APPLICANT'S UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK BEFORE THE PANEL FOR ANOTHER VIEWING. IF IF IT CHANGED OUTSIDE OF TWEAKS FOR FINAL ENGINEERING AND, YOU KNOW, FINAL SITE COMPLIANCE, COULD YOU GIVE THEM GIVE ME A LITTLE CLARIFICATION ON YOUR SCORECARD, BECAUSE YOU HAD A NUMBER OF ITEMS THAT WERE STILL QUESTIONED AND, YOU KNOW, WITH
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13 OUT OF 49 ITEMS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT ARE STILL UNDER QUESTION WITH WHAT'S WHAT WE'VE DETERMINED SINCE THE THING WAS PUBLISHED, IS THERE A SPECIFIC I DON'T I DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME AT THE MOMENT, BUT I WAS JUST QUESTIONING, I THINK, WHAT'S ONE OF THE QUESTION MARKS WAS RELATED TO NOT KNOWING THE INDIVIDUAL BUILDING'S SQUARE FOOTAGE. WAS THE STRATEGY STRATEGY TO PRESERVE AND MAXIMIZE THE SPACE IS A QUESTION. MAXIMUM LOT COVERAGE. SO ONE POINT OF CLARIFICATION IS THAT THERE WAS INITIALLY A CHECKLIST DONE REVIEWING THE PROPOSAL FOR THE RECOMMENDATION OF OFFICE. THAT WAS A BIT OF A GROWING PAIN FROM THE STAFF TRANSITION. THE JANUARY CONCEPTUAL HEARING. THIS PROPOSAL WAS REVIEWED BASED ON TOWN MIXED USE. THE TOWN MIXED MIXED USE DISTRICT, AS THAT WAS A MORE COMPATIBLE DISTRICT TO REVIEW THIS PROPOSAL AGAINST. SO MY INITIAL CHECKLIST THAT YOU RECEIVED WAS BASED ON OFFICE. SO THERE WERE THERE WAS A LOWER SCORE AND MORE QUESTION MARKS. YOU. A UPDATED CHECKLIST WAS SENT OUT VERY SHORT NOTICE YESTERDAY. YEAH. THAT THAT WAS BASED ON THE TOWN MIXED USE AND THAT RECEIVED A 75%, 74.5% UPDATE. TALKING WITH DAVE HERE, HE'S SAYING THERE'S NO RUSH FOR US TO TRY TO GET THE VOTE DONE. NOW, I KNOW THAT'S LIKE PROBABLY VERY WEIRD FOR ME TO SAY, LET'S SLOW DOWN THE VOTE. BUT WELL, WE WERE JUST TRYING TO AVOID HAVING ANOTHER MEETING IN THE SUMMER TO GO THROUGH. YEAH. WE DON'T WANT TO BE THE CAUSE. OH, THAT'S THAT THAT'S SO I APPRECIATE APPRECIATE. YOU KNOW, YOU DID A DILIGENCE BEFORE, BUT YOU'VE DONE A GOOD JOB OF PRESENTING, LIKE I SAID, JANUARY AND THEN I MIGHT TAKE WAS I'M NOT SURE WE HAVE A WHOLE LOT TO OFFER. OKAY. OKAY, GREAT. IS THERE A I WAS HOPING YOU I MEAN, I TOOK ALL KINDS OF NOTES I WAS READY TO TALK ABOUT HERE ON GAS PIPELINE DETAILS, AND I DON'T WANT TO LIKE A. IS IS THERE A TIME TO APPRECIATE IT? DO YOU HAVE A TIMELINE FOR FILING THROUGH AND GENERAL TIMELINE OF WHEN TO EXPECT. I THINK IT'S ME SOMETIME OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS. SO YEAH, IF I COULD ASK, DO YOU ANTICIPATE ANY EXCUSE ME FOR ANY VARIANCES THAT ARE NOT STRICTLY CONCURRENT WITH THE REZONING? ANY VARIANCE? DAVE? DAVE THAT WOULD BE SUBMITTED AT THE SAME TIME? YES. IT WOULD NOT BE THE SUBMITTED AT THE SAME TIME AS THE REZONING. THERE MAY BE. THERE MAY BE A. SUPPOSITION, BUT IT WOULD ABSOLUTELY BE PROCESSED AT THE SAME. OKAY. AND I THOUGHT I WOULD SHARE, DAVID, YOU KNOW THIS. OF COURSE, I FIND MYSELF SOMETIMES WITH TWO HEADS HERE AT THIS MEETING. I'M ALSO THE THE ZONING COMMITTEE, WE CALL IT THE DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE CHAIR FOR THE NORTHLAND COMMUNITY COUNCIL, WHICH IS ACTUALLY ITS SERVICE AREA OVERLAPS THE ROCKY FORK COURT HERE. AND WE DO NOT. IN THE AREA THAT OVERLAPS. WE DO NOT HEAR REZONING APPLICATIONS OR CONCURRENT VARIANCE APPLICATIONS. BUT IF YOU FOUND YOU NEEDED ADDITIONAL VARIANCES, YOU WOULD NOT COME HERE. YOU WOULD GO TO THE NORTHLAND COMMUNITY COUNCIL. TO HAVE THAT HEARD. WE'RE VERY MUCH LIKE AN AREA COMMISSION IN OTHER PARTS OF COLUMBUS, SO I JUST THOUGHT I'D MENTION THAT JUST TO PREPARE YOU FOR THE FACT MAYBE WE'LL BE TALKING ALSO THAT WE WILL HELP INFORM NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES OF THE DEVELOPMENT. AND YOU MAY AGAIN, WHEN IT GETS TO THE THE DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION, ETC. SOME OF THESE FOLKS MAY COME TO SPEAK AND EXPRESS ANY CONCERNS ABOUT THE APPLICATION. AND THAT'S PART OF OUR FUNCTION, AGAIN, BEING VERY SIMILAR TO AN AREA COMMISSION ON OTHER PARTS OF COLUMBUS. SO YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR YOUR OFFERS, ALL THAT I WE ARE WORKING THROUGH SOME DETAILS BEFORE, BEFORE APPLICATION AND I SO FAR I'VE BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN PERSUADING PAUL FROM THE TEN STOREY BUILDING 600 UNITS, BUT I'M NOT SURE WHERE WE ARE ON THAT. YEAH. OKAY. FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, I THINK IT'S A VERY NICE PROPOSAL. THE ARCHITECTURE OF THE BUILDING IS IS VERY COMPATIBLE WITH THE[00:40:03]
STREETSCAPE OF CENTRAL COLLEGE. THANK YOU. I HEARD ALL OH, GO AHEAD. I'M JUST GOING TO SAY SINCE HE'S HE'S SAYING, YOU KNOW, HE HE THINKS IT WORKS. WELL, IF IT WEREN'T FOR THE GAS LINES, I WOULD SAY, YEAH, WE CAN WE CAN WORK WITH THIS. BUT KNOWING THE AREA THE WAY I DO, AS LONG AS I'VE KNOWN THE AREA, I WOULD BE REALLY RELUCTANT TO PUT THAT MANY HOUSES WITH TWO GAS LINES ON THAT SMALLER PIECE OF PROPERTY AND HAVE IT AS HIGH DENSITY AS IT IS. ONE POINT.AND I ACTUALLY, THE FIRST TIME AROUND, I DON'T THINK I VOTED FOR IT FOR THE SAME REASON, BUT THERE WAS ALSO GOING TO BE A LOT MORE COMMERCIAL TYPE STUFF IN THERE. LIKE YOU SAID, THE, THE FIRST FLOOR AND THE ONE BUILDING WAS GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER IT WAS, I DON'T REMEMBER EXACTLY NOW, BUT THAT WAS LOWERING THE DENSITY OF PEOPLE SLEEPING OVERNIGHT AND BEING THERE 24 OVER SEVEN, AS OPPOSED TO SOMEBODY COMING IN, GETTING THEIR CLEANING DONE OR GOING TO AN ACE HARDWARE OR A FAST FOOD OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE I HAVE MY BIGGEST AND MAYBE ONLY PROBLEM IS THAT CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THOSE GAS LINES.
AND I HAD PERSONAL EXPERIENCE WITH. THEM HAVING A PROBLEM. SO THAT'S, I'M JUST LETTING YOU KNOW RIGHT UP FRONT. BUT I'M ONLY ONE OF NINE OR IS IT ONLY EIGHT NOW? DID WE. OKAY, SO I'M ONE VOTE OF EIGHT, BUT AT THIS POINT I'M NOT LEANING TOWARDS YEAH, THIS IS FANTASTIC BECAUSE IF YOU IF YOU TOOK OUT THE TWO GAS LINES. YEAH, I COULD PROBABLY AGREE WITH EVERYBODY ELSE. BUT FROM THAT ONE STANDPOINT, I'M, I'M VERY RELUCTANT TO SAY, YEAH, IT'S A GOOD PLAN IN THE EVENT THAT ANYTHING DOWN THE ROAD SHOULD EVER HAPPEN, I, YOU KNOW, IF I DON'T AT LEAST VOICE MY OPINION AT THIS POINT. FOR PLANNING DISCUSSION ON GAS LINES, ARE YOU SAYING ANYTHING YOU DON'T LIKE AT THIS POINT? NOT REALLY. I, I WISH THAT MAYBE YOU COULD GO FROM A TWO STORY TO A THREE STORY FOR YOUR INTERIOR PARTS, MAKE THEM AS HIGH AS YOU WANT.
OR ALSO OUT ON CENTRAL COLLEGE FROM FROM THE CENTRAL COLLEGE ROAD ASPECT. YOU GOT THAT LAST BUILDING THERE RIGHT NEXT TO THE GAS GAS HOUSE. AND I CAN'T REMEMBER IF THEY'RE LOWERING, LOWERING THE PRESSURE COMING IN FROM THE NORTHEAST OR THEY'RE INCREASING THE PRESSURE GOING INTO COLUMBUS. I DON'T I DON'T REMEMBER WHICH WAY THE PRESSURE, BUT THEY THAT'S WHAT THAT CORNER IS BASICALLY FOR, IS TO CHANGE THE PRESSURE ON THOSE LINES. AND SO. BUT ANYWAY, I THAT MY BASIC THING IS THE GAS LINES. YOU KNOW, I THINK. I, WELL, I, THAT'S THE PROPERTY I GREW UP ON. AND WHEN I WAS, WHEN I WAS A EARLY TEENAGER, THAT LINE RUNNING ON THE DIAGONAL ABOUT A MILE AND A HALF DOWN THE LINE ONE NIGHT ABOUT 1:00 IN THE MORNING BLEW UP. AND IT, IT WAS A WHOLE LOT OF PROBLEM FOR EVERYBODY. BUT IF THERE HAD BEEN. IS IT BLUE? AS TURNED OUT, IT BLEW UP IN THE BACK OF A FARM. SO IT DIDN'T REALLY HURT ANYBODY AT THAT POINT. BUT THAT'S WHAT SCARES ME ABOUT HAVING THIS MANY. I WASN'T REAL KEEN WHEN THEY WERE PUTTING IN THE THE ALL THE OTHER BUILDINGS AROUND THERE. BUT HERE YOU'RE SITTING, YOU'RE SAYING, WELL, WE'VE GOT 25FT INSTEAD OF 18FT. WELL THAT'S STILL PROBABLY WOULDN'T CONTAIN THE DIAMETER OF THE HOLE THAT WHEN IT LET GO. DO YOU RECALL SUBSTATION WAS BUILT? WELL. I KNOW FROM MY EARLIEST RECOLLECTION IT WAS THERE BECAUSE IT MADE A LOT MORE NOISE THAN IT DOES NOW. SO THAT WOULD BE EARLY 50S. MAYBE, MAYBE EVEN MORE THAN THAT. AND THERE USED TO BE ANOTHER GAS LINE ABOUT THE SAME SIZE, GOING DIAGONALLY THE OTHER WAY ACROSS THE FARM. AND THEY TOOK THAT ONE OUT BACK IN PROBABLY THE MIDDLE 60S. IT CAME THROUGH NEW ALBANY, CAME ACROSS AND CAME THROUGH OUR FARM. BUT THAT'S WHEN THEY CHANGED AND HOOKED IT INTO THE. GAS. HOUSE THERE AT THE CORNER AND TOOK IT DOWN CENTRAL COLLEGE ROAD, AND T
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N TOOK OFF TO THE 45 DEGREE ANGLE GOING UP TO WESTERVILLE. AND IF YOU GO ON GOOGLE MAPS, YOU COULD PROBABLY FOLLOW WHERE IT IS BECAUSE NO VEGETATION, YOU KNOW, YOU GOT THE SWATH GOING THROUGH WITH NO VEGETATION. SO IT'S EITHER A POWER LINE OR A GAS LINE. YOU CAN SEE THE TOWERS. SO INTERESTING FOR SURE. I, I KNEW IT WAS THERE A LONG TIME, YEAH, YEAH. THE, THE NEW LINE WAS PUT IN, LIKE I SAY, IT WAS PROBABLY SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 63 AND 65 WHEN THEY HAD TO REPLACE THE ENTIRE LINE. AND IT HAD BEEN, I THINK, AN 18 INCH MAIN. AND THEY UPPED IT TO, I THINK, A 20 INCH MAIN WHEN THEY PUT IN THE NEW LINE. SO, YOU[VII. Other business]
KNOW, IF YOU IF YOU IF YOU WALK IN HERE TONIGHT AND SAID, WELL, WE WANT TO PUT, YOU KNOW. A RESTAURANT A HERE AND THIS AND THAT AND THE OTHER THING, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER ACE HARDWARE OR WHATEVER HARDWARE STORE YOU WANT, I'D SAY, YEAH, THAT'S GREAT BECAUSE THAT'S NOT THE KIND OF THING. BUT WHEN YOU HAVE THAT MANY PEOPLE SLEEPING AT NIGHT AND THAT'S WHEN IT HAPPENED WITH US. I MEAN, I, I THOUGHT THE WORLD WAS COMING TO AN END FOR A WHILE, BUT I WAS WORRIED ABOUT WAS IT RUNNING THE RUNNING BACK UP THE GAS LINE? AND IT TOOK HIM ABOUT 45 MINUTES TO GET THE GAS SHUT OFF BECAUSE THEY HAD TO COME OUT TO THIS CORNER STATION HERE AND TURN THE VALVE OFF FOR THAT. SO IT JUST FED THE FLAME FOR, BUT YOU COULD SEE IT FOR MILES AND MILES AWAY. IT WASN'T IT WASN'T A LITTLE FLICKER. SO. THAT'S INTERESTING. THERE'S A, THERE'S A. LOCATION IN WESTERN. THERE'S A HUGE ELECTRIC SUBSTATION ON PLEASANTVILLE. WHEN IT WAS BUILT, THAT WAS FUN. AND I'M SURE THERE'S LOTS OF PEOPLE WHO. THE* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.