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TO ORDER THE NEW ALBANY ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD FOR MAY 11TH, 2026. COULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? MR. HINSON HERE, MR. BROWN HERE, MISS MOORE HERE. MR. MALICE HERE. MR. STRASSLER HERE. MR. ITEM. MR. DAVIS, COUNCIL MEMBER. WILTROUT HERE. WE HAVE FIVE
[III. Action on minutes: April 13, 2026 ]
VOTING MEMBERS PRESENT. WE HAVE A QUORUM. GREAT. IS THERE ANY ACTION ON THE MINUTES OF THE APRIL 13TH, 2026 MEETING? I HAVE NO ISSUES AT ALL. I HAD NOTHING. I WOULD MOVE TO APPROVE THE MEETING MINUTES FROM THE LAST MEETING. I'LL SECOND. MR. BROWN. YES. MR. YES.MISS MOORE. YES. MR. HINSON. YES. MR. STRONG. YES. THE AYES HAVE IT. MOTION PASSES WITH ALL
[IV. Additions or corrections to the agenda ]
VOTES TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS SUBMITTED. STAFF, DO WE HAVE ANY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS TO THE AGENDA? MR. CHAIRMAN, I HAVE ONE CORRECTION. I'D LIKE TO MOVE. STAFF WOULD LIKE TO MOVE A OR B 28 2026 TO THE FIRST CASE, FOLLOWED BY A OR B 19 AND A OR B 30. SO IT SHALL BE. THANK YOU. AT THIS TIME I'D LIKE TO ADMINISTER THE OATH TO ALL WITNESSES AND APPLICANTS WHO PLAN TO ADDRESS THE BOARD. WOULD YOU PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND? DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? THANK. ARE THERE ANY VISITORS FOR ITEMS HERE TONIGHT? FOR ITEMS, NOT AGENDA. SEEING NONE, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A OR B 28, 2026[VI. Cases]
FOR RICHMOND SQUARE WALL. CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS. SHALL I MODIFICATION TO THE BRICK WALL AT THE RICHMOND SQUARE DEVELOPMENT? 14 TO 17 RICHMOND SQUARE. THE APPLICANT IS CLARINET. DO YOU HAVE A STAFF REPORT? AND I'M GOING TO EXCUSE MYSELF. THANK YOU. SIT DOWN ON THE FLOOR. GOOD EVENING, BOARD MEMBERS. SO THIS APPLICATION IS FOR CHANGE AND DETAILS TO THE BRICK RETAINING WALL ALONG MAIN STREET AT THE RICHMOND SQUARE TOWNHOME DEVELOPMENT. SO HERE'S THE SITE HIGHLIGHTED IN RED WITH FRONTAGE ON KESWICK DRIVE, MAIN STREET. AND THEN THAT BRICK WALL IS ALONG MAIN STREET HERE. SO ON JUNE 10TH, 2024, THE IRB APPROVED THE APPLICATION. ARB 106 2023 WITH CONDITIONS. CONDITION 13 STATED THAT THE WINDOW WELLS AND IRONWORK ON THE CENTER MAIN STREET RETAINING WALL SHALL BE SUBJECT TO STAFF APPROVAL REQUIRED. BECAUSE WHAT WHAT WAS SUBJECT TO STAFF APPROVAL IS NO LONGER THERE. THE APPLICANT OR THE APPLICATION IS BEING PRESENTED TONIGHT. SO HERE IS THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED DESIGN AT THE TOP. AS YOU CAN SEE, THAT WINDOW WELL HERE ALONG WITH SOME LIGHT FEATURES IN CAP DETAILS ALONG THE TOP. AND THEN THE PROPOSED IS ON THE BOTTOM WITH A LINEAR CAB DETAIL AT THE TOP WITHOUT THE WINDOW. WELL, THE LIGHTING FIXTURES. SO HERE'S THE PROPOSED LANDSCAPE PLAN. JUST SHOWING SOME LANDSCAPING THAT WILL BE PROPOSED ALONG THAT MAIN STREET WALL HERE. AND HERE ARE THE PREVIOUS CONDITIONS THAT WOULD STILL APPLY, WHICH ARE JUST SHOWN ON THE SCREEN. THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO DISCUSS ANY QUESTIONS. ANY THE PROPOSAL BEHIND THE DESIGN. AND I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. GREAT.THANK YOU. APPLICANT. NEXT. FOR THE RECORD. HI. MY NAME IS. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. WAS THERE A CHANGE TO THE SIDEWALK MOVING OUT CLOSER TO THE STREET? TO THE SIDEWALK? IF YOU GO TO THE SITE PLAN THAT WAS BETWEEN THE TWO PROPOSED TOWNHOUSES ALONG RICHMOND SQUARE ON THE LEFT SIDE. SO THERE WAS A SIDEWALK PROPOSED HERE, AND THEN ANOTHER SIDEWALK PROPOSED DOWN THE BACK. WALK ON IT AS WELL. I JUST HAD A QUESTION FOR STAFF. WE'VE GOT THESE 13 CONDITIONS THAT ARE NOTED. DO THEY NEED TO BE REPLICATED IN THIS PARTICULAR REQUEST. SO THEY WERE JUST ADDED JUST TO SHOW THAT THEY'RE STILL CONDITIONS TO THE OVERALL SITE. OKAY. BUT NOT FOR THE REQUEST ALONE. OKAY. BUT IF WE APPROVE THIS, THIS CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS, THOSE CONDITIONS WOULD STILL BE IN PLACE. OR DO WE NEED TO IDENTIFY THEM AS PART OF THIS CERTIFICATE OF APPROVAL. SO THEY WOULD STILL APPLY FROM THE FROM THE OKAY. YEAH. THEY DON'T NEED TO BE REALLY NOTED. OKAY.
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I DIDN'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS EITHER. I THINK THE SIMPLICITY IS AN IMPROVEMENT. I JUST HAVE ONE QUICK QUESTION. THERE'S NO SIDEWALK ON THE OTHER SIDE OF.I THINK THAT'S MCDONALD. IS THAT JUST FOR CONSISTENCY? THAT'S WHY WE'RE REMOVING THAT ON THIS SIDE IS. YEAH THAT'S CORRECT. THIS TENDS TO BE THE BACK SIDE OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO THE OTHER REASON IS THAT TO PRESERVE AS MUCH SPACE AS POSSIBLE. SO. THERE'S A SIDEWALK. HERE. YEAH, YEAH YEAH. BUT THERE'S NONE. NO GOING BACK AROUND. YEAH. SO IT MAKES SENSE TO REMOVE THAT. YEAH. TO BE CONSISTENT. OKAY. THANK YOU. I HAVE NOTHING ELSE. SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ARB APPLICATION. 2028 2026 WITH THE CONDITIONS STATED IN THE STAFF REPORT, THERE IS A TOTAL OF 13 CONDITIONS. I'LL SECOND. MR. STROLLER. YES. MR. BROWN. YES.
MR. HENSON. YES. MISS. MOORE. YES. THE AYES HAVE IT WITH ALL VOTES TO APPROVE ARB 28 2026, SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS IN THE STAFF REPORT. THANK YOU. THANKS. I NEED TO EXCUSE MYSELF.
AS I MENTIONED, STAFF. THANK YOU ALL. OKAY. THANKS, ALAN. SO WE'LL MOVE FORWARD NEXT WITH ARB. 19-2026 NEW ALBANY METHODIST. SIGNED. CERTIFICATE. CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS AND WAIVER. CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS TO ALLOW THE INSTALLATION OF ONE MULTI-TENANT DUAL POST SIGN AT 85 EAST MAIN STREET FOR THE NEW ALBANY UNITED METHODIST CHURCH AND NORTHWEST EYE SURGEONS, AND ONE MONUMENT SIGN AT 23RD STREET FOR THE NEW ALBANY UNITED METHODIST CHURCH AND ONE WAIVER TO ALLOW A MONUMENT SIGN, WHEN PROHIBITED IN THE CAMPUS SUBDISTRICT OF THE URBAN CENTER CODE. DO WE HAVE A STAFF REPORT? YES, I CAN PRESENT IT. SO, AS YOU SAID, THERE ARE TWO SIGNS BEING PROPOSED. HERE IS LOCATED ON THESE SITES NEAR THE VILLAGE CENTER. YOU CAN SEE THE LANTERN AREA HERE. 161 AND THE MARKET STREET EXTENDING UP THROUGH HERE. THIS IS A BIT OF A ZOOM IN OF THE SITES. AGAIN, THE MARKET STREET EXPANSION OR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT IS GOING ON HERE. AND MODIFICATIONS TO THIS SITE ARE ONGOING. THERE IS A NEW WALL THAT HAS BEEN INSTALLED ALONG HERE, AND I WANT TO POINT OUT THE NEW ACCESSES TO THIS SITE. THERE'S THIS ENTRY DRIVE UP HERE AND THIS ACCESS DRIVE RIGHT HERE. THIS IS THE UNITED METHODIST CHURCH DOWN HERE TO THE SOUTH END OF THIS PARCEL.
AND THEN NORTHWEST EYE SURGEONS RIGHT HERE. AND THEN A THIRD EMPTY PARCEL IS RIGHT HERE.
THERE IS A OR THERE WAS A FORMER EXISTING SIGN LOCATED RIGHT HERE. BUT DUE TO THE CONSTRUCTION, IT WAS REMOVED. THERE'S ALSO ONE DUAL POST SIGN THAT EXISTS IN FRONT OF THE NORTHWEST EYE SURGEONS. THAT IS GOING TO BE REMOVED SO THAT THERE IS NO SIGNAGE. THIS IS THE PROPOSAL FOR THE SITE. WE HAVE THESE TWO SIGNS HERE. THE FIRST ONE IS THIS MULTI-TENANT SIGN THAT'S GOING TO BE PERPENDICULAR TO THE ROAD NEAR THE ACCESS OR THE ENTRY DRIVE RIGHT HERE. YOU CAN ACCESS ALL THREE OF THESE TENANT SPACES FROM THIS DRIVE. AND THE OTHER SIGN IS GOING TO BE THIS MONUMENT SIGN LOCATED ALSO PERPENDICULAR TO THE STREET. IT IS A HALO LIT SIGN. SO THE DUAL POST SIGN, AS I SAID, WILL IDENTIFY THE THREE TENANTS OF THIS AREA. IT USES A STANDARD COLOR, STYLE AND CHARACTER THAT IS SEEN THROUGHOUT THE VILLAGE CENTER AND OTHER AREAS OF NEW ALBANY. IT IS A TOTAL OF SEVEN FEET TALL WITH THREE DIFFERENT COLORS AND MEETS ALL THOSE SPECIFICATIONS. WE DID INCLUDE A CONDITION OF APPROVAL THAT THERE BE A MINIMUM RELIEF OF ONE INCH AND NO ILLUMINATION, SUBJECT TO STAFF APPROVAL, SINCE THAT WAS NOT SPECIFIED. WE ALSO HAVE THIS MONUMENT SIGN. THE WALL FEATURE EXISTS SEPARATELY FROM THE SIGN ALREADY, AND IT IS OF AN APPROPRIATE STYLE AND CHARACTER FOR THE VILLAGE CENTER. THE INTENT OF CITY SIGN CODE IS TO ENSURE SIGNS FIT HARMONIOUSLY WITH STRUCTURES AND THE SURROUNDINGS, SO THE PROPOSED SIGN MAY BE THE MOST APPROPRIATE OPTION GIVEN IT IS INTEGRATED ONTO THE WALL FEATURE. THIS SIGN IS APPROXIMATELY TWO FEET TALL ON THIS THREE APPROXIMATELY THREE FOOT TALL WALL AND ABOUT 9.3FTā .
THE WAIVERS BECAUSE WALL SIGNS MUST BE ON A BUILDING, WHEREAS MONUMENT SIGNS ARE DEFINED AS
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SIGNS ON AN ARCHITECTURAL FEATURE. SO THIS DOES COUNT AS A MONUMENT SIGN AND NOT A WALL SIGN. AND MONUMENT SIGNS ARE PROHIBITED IN ALL SUB AREAS OF THE VILLAGE CENTER. THE CAMPUS ZONING PROHIBITS SIGNS BECAUSE THEY ARE TYPICALLY INTENDED TO BE LARGE, AUTOMOBILE ORIENTED TALL SIGNS THAT COULD BE A NUISANCE OR DISTRACTION IN THE VILLAGE CENTER. MONUMENT SIGNS ARE TYPICALLY ON TOP OF A LARGE BASE TO STAND OUT. THIS MONUMENT STRUCTURE IS UNIQUE IN THAT THE SIGN IS ON THE BASE OR WALL AND INTEGRATED WELL WITH THE SITE. THE SIZE IS APPROPRIATE FOR BOTH THE VEHICULAR AND PEDESTRIAN SCALE. STRICT ADHERENCE TO CODE DESIGNATES THIS A MONUMENT SIGN. LET ME KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AND WE ARE HERE TO ANSWER. ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? YEAH, I HAVE ONE. IS THE IS THAT WALL THERE? ARE THEY BUILDING THIS SPECIFICALLY FOR THE SIGN? IT IS HERE ALREADY. THIS PORTION OF IT AT LEAST. I'M NOT SURE IF THE PORTION OF THE WALL THAT IS GOING TO BE ON IS THERE ALREADY.I'LL LET YOU SPEAK TO THAT. I'LL COME UP TO PLAY FAIRLY. STEVE MAYOR, CITY OF NEW ALBANY, 7800 PEOPLE, HOMER ROAD. SO THE WALL IS THERE. IT'S THIS PIECE RIGHT HERE. THIS IS SLIGHTLY OUTDATED, BUT THIS SIDEWALK REMAINS AND THERE'S A SIDEWALK THAT GOES NORTH AND THEN OVER.
SO THE WHOLE RETAINING WALL IS IS FINISHED. AND AT THE TIME WE WERE KIND OF THE MINDSET AND THINKING OF IT AS A WALL SIGN. SINCE IT IS A PART OF THE CONTINUATION OF A FUNCTIONAL RETAINING WALL. AND THEN AT THE CHURCH'S REQUEST, WE EVALUATED THAT. AND SO WE'RE HERE TODAY TO FORMALIZE THAT REQUEST. SO THE 13 FOOT IS THAT THE WIDTH OF THE. YEAH. SO THE WALL THE SIGN WILL ONLY BE VISIBLE COMING EASTBOUND. IS THAT. THAT'S RIGHT. IT'S PERPENDICULAR. SO IT'LL ONLY BE VISIBLE WHEN I GUESS I WOULD CALL IT SOUTHBOUND ALONG MARKET STREET HERE. OKAY. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. ANYBODY ELSE. I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS. YEAH I'M GOOD. SO ANYBODY WANT TO MAKE A MOTION OR I CAN MAKE A MOTION. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.
YOU'RE WELCOME. I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS APPLICATION A RB19-2026 WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITION. THE DUAL POST SIGN SHALL HAVE A MINIMUM RELIEF OF ONE INCH AND SHALL NOT BE ILLUMINATED, SUBJECT TO STAFF APPROVAL. OKAY, SO YOU DID SAY IT WAS HALO LIT. SORRY, I'M JUST READING THAT NOW. SORRY. THE CONDITION WAS FOR THE DUAL POST SIGN, AND THE DUAL MONUMENT SIGN IS HALO LIT. YEAH. OKAY, IF YOU WANT TO. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS SPECIFIED IN THE CONDITION. YEAH, I DON'T IF YOU WANT TO SPECIFY THAT FOR THE CONDITION, THAT'S OKAY. SO THE THE DUAL SIGN WILL BE NON ILLUMINATED AND THE, THE SIGN ON THE WALL THAT WE'RE CALLING A MONUMENT SIGN WILL BE HALO LIT. CORRECT. OKAY. I'LL SECOND.
THANK YOU. MISS MOORE. YES. MR. BROWN. YES. MR. MULLINS. YES. MR. STROLLER. YES. THE AYES HAVE IT WITH ALL VOTES TO APPROVE THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS. DO WE NEED TO MAKE A SEPARATE MOTION FOR THE WAIVER? WE USUALLY DO. DON'T WE DO. YOU GUYS HAVE DONE IT BOTH WAYS. YOU CAN APPROVE IT SINCE THERE'S JUST ONE. YOU CAN JUST APPROVE IT WITH THE ORIGINAL MOTION. I THINK WE'VE SPLIT IT APART WHEN THERE'S BEEN MULTIPLE WAIVERS. OKAY. WE DIDN'T MENTION IT. SO DO WE NEED TO WHEN WE DID THE WE DID THE MOTION. WE JUST DID AS PART OF THE VOTE. SURE. YOU GUYS CAN DO THAT. JUST TO CLARIFY. OKAY. MISS MOORE, YOU WANT TO RESTATE THE RESTATE THE MOTION WITH THE WAIVERS AND JUST INCLUDE THE WAIVER. SORRY. SO I DON'T HAVE MY HARD COPY. I'M ON THE COMPUTER AND I'M TRYING TO FIND THE BALLPARK RIGHT HERE. I'M READING GRANT. THE WAIVER. YOU'LL YOU'LL LIST OUT THE FOUR. WAIVERS FOR THE APPLICATION TO THE MONUMENT TO BE INSTALLED AT CAMPUS DISTRICT. AND THEN. IS IT JUST THE ONE WAIVER? YEAH.
IT'S JUST SO JUST. OKAY, SO IN ADDITION TO THE MOTION FOR APPROVAL. OKAY. GRANT THE WAIVER REQUEST AS IDENTIFIED HERE AS ITEM A. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SO IN ADDITION TO THE APPROVAL, WE'RE REQUESTING AN APPROVAL OF THE WAIVER TO SEE 01169.17 C TO ALLOW
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MONUMENT SIGN TO BE INSTALLED IN THE CAMPUS SUB DISTRICT. I'LL SECOND THAT, MISS MOORE.YES. MR. BROWN. YES. MR. MALLETS. YES. MR. STRAW. YES. THE AYES HAVE IT TO APPROVE THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS AND WAIVER FOR AR B 19, 2026. ALL RIGHT. THANKS FOR THE CLARIFICATION. THANKS, EVERYONE. JUST AS A HEADS UP TO WE'LL BE DOING THE FINAL PAVING ASPHALT PAVING ON MARKET STREET EXTENSION ON MAY 19TH. SO ALL RIGHT. NICE JOB ON THAT. YEAH.
SO WE'RE WE'RE REAL EXCITED. WELL, THANKS. IT'S NICE SEEING EVERYBODY AGAIN. YOU TOO. YOU TOO. TAKE CARE. STEVEN. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL MOVE AHEAD WITH OUR THIRD AND FINAL CONSIDERATION OF THE NIGHT. IT'S A RB30-2026. CHURCH OF THE RESURRECTION. CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS TO ALLOW FOR NEW PARKING LOT LIGHTING AT 6300 EAST DUBLIN GRANVILLE ROAD.
THE APPLICANT IS SCOTT HARPER. THANK YOU STAFF. SO JUST A REMINDER, AT THE APRIL ARB MEETING, THE BOARD REQUESTED THAT THE CHURCH OF THE RESURRECTION RETURNED WITH A FINALIZED LIGHTING PLAN FOR THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED PARKING LOT EXPANSION. SO THE PARKING LOT EXPANSION THAT WAS APPROVED LAST MONTH IS SHOWN IN YELLOW HERE. THE APPLICANT HAS INDICATED THAT THE PROPOSED LIGHTING WILL MATCH THE EXISTING FEATURES THROUGHOUT THE CHURCH CAMPUS. IT CONSISTS OF 20 FOOT TALL, CUT OFF LIGHT POLES WITH A DOWNCAST DESIGN INTENDED TO MINIMIZE LIGHT SPILLAGE BEYOND THE PROPERTY LINES. AND IT WILL BE IN A CUSTOM MOSS GREEN COLOR TO REMAIN CONSISTENT WITH THE LIGHT POLES THROUGHOUT THE CHURCH CAMPUS. STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE LIGHTING PLAN DOES NOT HAVE ANY CONCERNS WITH THE PROPOSED DESIGN. WE WOULD JUST ADD THE CONDITIONS THAT THERE WILL BE ZERO OR NEAR ZERO FOOT CANDLES ALONG ALL PROPERTY LINES, AND ANY OTHER ADDITIONAL LIGHTING WOULD MATCH WHAT IS EXISTING SUBJECT TO STAFF APPROVAL. AND I'M HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. AND SO THE K QUESTIONS. THEY HAVE SIX EXISTING LIGHT POLES IN THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE LOT THAT ARE TURNED UP, THAT ARE DIFFERENT THAN THEY HAVE FIVE ADDITIONAL LIGHT POLES IN THE MIDDLE OF THE LOT THAT ARE TURNED DOWN, BUT ARE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED. SO THIS IS GOING TO BE LIKE THE THIRD VERSION OF LIGHTING ON THE SITE. I DON'T KNOW IF THE INTENT IS TO EVENTUALLY MAKE THEM ALL THE SAME. OR IS THIS JUST GOING TO BE AN ITERATION THAT LOOKS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THAN EVERYTHING THAT'S EXISTING? ULTIMATELY, THE GOAL IS FOR THEM ALL TO MATCH THE THE LIGHTS THAT ACTUALLY NOW CURRENTLY SHINE OUT ARE ACTUALLY SOUTH OF THE EXISTING MINISTRY CENTER. SO ULTIMATELY, OUR GOAL IS TO TAKE THE MINISTRY CENTER DOWN AND THAT PARKING LOT WOULD BE REDEVELOPED. OKAY. SO AT THAT TIME, WE WOULD END UP CHANGING IT OUT TO THE MORE DECORATIVE FIXTURES. OKAY. THE DECORATIVE FIXTURES THAT ARE EXISTING THERE WERE INSTALLED WHEN THE CHURCH WAS BUILT BACK IN 2003.
AND THEN THE NEW FIXTURES ARE INTENDED TO MATCH, AND WE COULDN'T ACTUALLY FIND A COLOR THAT ACTUALLY WAS A VERY GOOD MATCH OF STANDARD COLORS FROM OUR LIGHT FIXTURE MANUFACTURER.
SO WE ARE GOING WITH CUSTOM COLORS TO MATCH THE GREEN THAT IS ON THE EXISTING LIGHT FIXTURES. OKAY, SO YOU'RE TRYING TO MATCH THE EXISTING THAT WERE BUILT THAT WERE INSTALLED BACK IN DURING THE CHURCH CONSTRUCTION. CONSTRUCTION. THAT'S CORRECT.
AND THEY HAVE THE HOOK WITH THE DOWN LIGHT AND THE AND THE HOOD. OKAY. BECAUSE SO DOUBLE A 39 RAILROAD IS WHAT SORT OF IDENTIFIED. BUT AS I'M LOOKING AT THIS DOUBLE A 42 RAILROAD SCS APPEARS TO BE WHAT'S EXISTING ON THE SITE. CORRECT. OKAY, THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY. SO YOU PLAN ON USING THE OTHER FIXTURE, THE ONE THAT WAS SUBMITTED? YES. THE ONE THAT'S.
YES. OKAY. I GUESS I'M NOT FOLLOWING YOU. I GUESS THAT WAS MY QUESTION TOO. SIMILAR IN YOUR LINE. I KNOW THERE'S INCONSISTENCY OF LIGHTING AND SOME OF IT'S BASED ON AGE. AND CERTAINLY TECHNOLOGY HAS ALSO CHANGED TOO. ABSOLUTELY. MY ONE QUESTION WAS, AND I DIDN'T PICK UP THAT IT WAS THE A 42. BUT IS THERE A REASON WHY YOU'RE PROPOSING TO SWITCH FROM THE 42, WHICH LOOKS LIKE IT'S A SIDE MOUNTED POST VERSUS THE DIRECT MOUNTED POST? I DON'T OBJECT TO THEM. I'M JUST WONDERING WHAT THE WHAT THE REASON. I THINK IT WAS THE CLOSEST THAT WE COULD FIND TO THE EXISTING. OKAY. I THINK THAT'S THE PRIMARY REASON FOR IT. OKAY. I MEAN, I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH PROVING IT EITHER, BUT I GUESS MAYBE JUST A SUGGESTION THAT IT LOOKS LIKE THE FIXTURE, PER MR. MOUNT'S COMMENTS AS WELL, THE FIXTURE THAT'S BEING NOTED IS NOT CLOSE TO WHAT'S THERE. AND SO YOU MIGHT WANT TO LOOK AT THIS ALTERNATE FIXTURE OR SOMETHING A LITTLE CLOSER. THAT'S IF THAT'S WHAT YOUR GOAL IS, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK
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YOU'RE GOING TO GET THERE WITH THIS. YEAH, WE AND HONESTLY, WE TRIED TO MATCH AS CLOSE AS WE COULD. THE ORIGINAL FIXTURES IS NO LONGER AVAILABLE FROM THE COMPANY THAT ORIGINALLY PROVIDED IT, BUT THIS FIXTURE ACTUALLY WAS THE CLOSEST THAT WE COULD COME UP WITH. THAT'S VERY, VERY SIMILAR TO THE EXISTING OKAY. IS THE HEIGHT GOING TO BE THE HEIGHT IN THE SWEEP OF THE RADIUS CLOSE TO SIMILAR OR SAME? IT IS. I BELIEVE IT'S 20. OKAY. IT SHOULD BE THE SAME. OKAY. AND NOT TO PILE ON, BUT THE ACTUAL HEAD ITSELF, IT'S TALKING ABOUT THIS CAP DASH 21. IT HAS THE FIXTURE ITSELF IS NOT WHAT'S EXISTING. YOU'VE GOT SORT OF CONVEX VERSUS CONCAVE. THE EXISTING FIXTURES ARE MORE LIKE THE MAR FIXTURE. THAT IS CORRECT. YES. OKAY. SO BUT YOU YOU WANT TO GO. WE ARE WE WERE INTENDING TO USE THIS FIXTURE.YES. YOU WANT TO GO WITH THE SEPARATE. WE WOULD LIKE TO. YES. OKAY. AND THE INTENT IS EVENTUALLY TO TRY AND USE THOSE EVERYWHERE. THAT'S CORRECT. IF THEY'RE STILL AVAILABLE, WHATEVER WE WHATEVER WE END UP DEVELOPING THE MINISTRY. SATISFIED. OKAY. SO IS THIS AGAIN, PLEASE EXCUSE THE SCRUTINY, BUT IS THIS AN INTENT TO JUST UPGRADE THE THE LEVEL OF THE ESTHETIC OF THE LIGHTING FIXTURES ON SITE? SO IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE WHAT I'M HEARING IS THEY'RE SIMILAR, TO BE SURE, BUT YOU'VE MADE SOME INTENTIONAL CHANGES BOTH TO THE SHAPE AND FORM OF THE OF THE POLES. I'M SENSING THE REASON FOR THAT IS IN THE SPIRIT OF ALL THE OTHER IMPROVEMENTS THAT HAVE ON SITE. I DON'T WANT TO PUT WORDS IN YOUR MOUTH, BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND THE INTENT BEHIND THE CHANGE. THAT IS CORRECT.
OKAY, THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT. OKAY. BUT THE ULTIMATE GOAL IS STILL CONSISTENCY. THAT'S CORRECT. THROUGHOUT THE SITE. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO ARE YOU USING THE 39 FOR THE POLE A 39 IS THAT THE INTENT OR IS IT 42. IT SOUNDS LIKE THE INTENT IS THE 39 BUT TO ME IT LOOKS LIKE THE 42 MATCHES WHAT'S THERE. BUT. I GUESS I'LL. YEAH, MY UNDERSTANDING IS WE'RE MOVING FROM A SIMILAR APPEARANCE OF THE 42, WHICH MATCHES WHAT'S CURRENTLY IN PLACE TO THE 39, WHICH IS, BY MY ACCOUNT, SLIGHTLY SIMPLIFIED IN ITS ESTHETIC, WHICH I WOULD SUPPORT SO LONG AS FROM A DISTANCE MACRO LEVEL, THEY'RE GOING TO APPEAR SIMILAR. THAT'S MY BIGGEST CONCERN. AND THEY SHOULD THEY SHOULD APPEAR. SO I WOULD I WOULD TEND TO AGREE.
YEAH. LOOK AT THE HEIGHT DIFFERENCES. THEY'RE A MATTER OF FRACTIONS OF AN INCH APART.
SO I THINK HOW FAR APART CAN YOU BRING UP THE THE SITE, THE SITE PLAN. SO ALL THE ONES ON THE NORTH SIDE ARE NEW. YEAH. THE EXISTING ONES ARE SOUTH OF THE PRAYER GARDEN. YEAH. LIKE DOO DOO EAST OF THE EXISTING OR THE OLDER SANCTUARY. AND THEN SOUTH ALONG DUBLIN GRANVILLE ROAD ARE THE FIXTURES THAT ARE TURNED UP THAT DON'T MATCH AT ALL. BUT PER THE APPLICANTS COMMENT, THEY'RE LOOKING AT COMPLETELY REDOING THAT SECTION OF THE LOT IN THE NEAR FUTURE.
SO THAT'S CORRECT. THAT'S CORRECT. AND THE FIXTURES ACTUALLY GO ALONG THE NORTH NORTH DRIVE LINE. THOSE ARE ACTUALLY DESIGNED TO PREVENT ANY BLEED TO THE PROPERTY LINE TO THE NORTH. I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. YEAH, I DON'T EITHER. I DON'T KNOW IF WE IF IT MAKES SENSE TO HAVE ANY CONDITIONS OR ARE WE JUST GOING TO THE ASSUMPTION THAT THIS IS PART OF A PHASED IMPROVEMENT TO THE ENTIRE SPACE? AND I WANTED TO, TO ASK IF WE COULD. AND I, I SAY THIS KNOWING THAT TIME IS A IS AN UNCERTAINTY ON YOUR END, BUT IS THERE A WAY TO AND MAYBE THIS IS A QUESTION FOR STAFF. IS THERE A WAY TO PREFERENCE CONSISTENCY MOVING FORWARD? AND IT SEEMS LIKE THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE ENDEAVORING TO DO. BUT IT WOULD SEEM TO ME THAT SO LONG AS THE PRODUCT AVAILABILITY REMAINS INTACT, WOULD YOU BE AMENABLE TO MAINTAINING CONSISTENCY GOING FORWARD? AS LONG AS IT'S NOT A PROCUREMENT ISSUE? YEAH. SO THE CONSISTENCY, WOULD IT BE BASED ON HOW MUCH IMPROVEMENTS DONE ON TRUST ME, I'M THE FIRST ONE TO TAKE THAT MINISTRY CENTER DOWN. LIKE IF I HAD $12 MILLION, IT'D BE DONE. I DON'T, BUT IF WE WERE TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS IN THE LOT, THAT WOULD BE A REQUIREMENT, IS WHAT YOU'RE ASKING TO ALSO IMPROVE THE BIG, UGLY, WIDE ONES WITH THE LIGHTS THAT GO THAT WAY? I WOULD, YEAH,
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I WOULD SAY IF AGAIN, AND I'M ASKING BECAUSE WE MAY BE OVERSTEPPING OUR AUTHORITY AND MAKING THAT REQUEST, BUT MY QUESTION WOULD BE IF FURTHER IMPROVEMENTS ARE MADE THAT REQUIRE REPLACEMENT OF EXISTING FIXTURES, IT SHOULD BE DONE SUCH THAT THEY ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE PRESUMED APPROVAL OF WHAT WE'RE BEING ASKED TO APPROVE TONIGHT. OH YEAH. THE OWNER WOULD BE FINE WITH THAT. AND IF NOT, IF IF PRODUCT LINES CHANGE OR AVAILABILITY AND TECHNOLOGY ISSUES DICTATE THAT THERE'S SUBTLE DIFFERENCES, I THINK WE'D ALL BE AMENABLE TO CONSIDERING THAT. BUT I THINK CONSIDERING THE SIZE OF THE PROPERTY AND ITS LOCATION, IT WOULD BE NICE TO CONSISTENCY. SURE. OKAY, I AGREE, I FEEL LIKE I JUST WALKED MYSELF INTO MAKING A MOTION, DIDN'T I? I WROTE, I WROTE, I WROTE UP A PART THREE IF YOU WANT TO SEE IF THAT WORKS FOR YOU, I WILL. UNLESS THERE'S ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, I'LL TAKE A STAB AT IT. NO, I THINK THAT'S GOOD. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ARB 30-2026 CHURCH OF THE RESURRECTION PARKING LOT LIGHTING. THE. APPROVAL WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS. ONE THERE WILL BE ZERO OR NEAR ZERO FOOT CANDLES ALONG THE PROPERTY LINES, SUBJECT TO STAFF APPROVAL. TWO IF ANY ADDITIONAL LIGHTING IS ADDED WITHIN THE CHURCH OF THE RESURRECTION CAMPUS, IT MUST BE CUT OFF FIXTURES AND DOWNCAST DESIGNS, PREVENTING SPILLAGE BEYOND THE SITE'S BOUNDARIES AND MATCHING THE EXISTING LIGHT FEATURES CURRENTLY ON SITE, SUBJECT TO STAFF APPROVAL. THREE THE APPLICANT WILL COORDINATE WITH STAFF TO MAINTAIN CONSISTENCY IN ANY FUTURE LIGHTING IMPROVEMENTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE EXISTING AND FUTURE PARKING LOT. IMPROVEMENTS ON THE PROPERTY. DOES THAT GET US THERE? YES, EVERYONE. VERY GOOD. I'LL SECOND. WOULD YOU PASS THAT BACK TO ME? THANK YOU. SOUNDS GOOD. IT TAKES A VILLAGE. THANK YOU. MR. MALIK'S. YES. MR. STROLLER. YES, MISS. MOORE. YES.MR. BROWN. YES, THE AYES HAVE IT WITH ALL VOTES TO APPROVE THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR LIGHTING, SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS IN THE STAFF REPORT. AND THE THIRD CONDITION THAT THE APPLICANT WILL COORDINATE WITH STAFF TO MAINTAIN CONSISTENCY WITH EXISTING FIXTURES. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GIVE. YOU HAVE TO HELP ME WITH WITH THE REST OF IT. OH BOY. MAINTAINING BASED ON LET ME I DON'T WANT TO OVER COMPLICATE THIS, BUT BASED ON THE APPROVAL BEFORE US TONIGHT THAT THE APPLICANT AGREES TO MAINTAIN CONSISTENT COLOR, STYLE AND SIZING FOR ANY FUTURE PARKING LOT, LIGHTING IMPROVEMENTS OR REPLACEMENTS.
THANK YOU. SUBJECT TO STAFF APPROVAL, AS ALWAYS. THANK YOU. CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE TOO ON MULTIPLE APPLICATIONS.
JUST AN FYI, YOU'VE SEEN THE PROGRESS ON SITE LOOKS GREAT. WE ARE WORKING ON A COMPREHENSIVE SIGNAGE PACKAGE FOR THE ENTIRE SITE RIGHT NOW, SO WE WILL BE BACK IN FRONT OF YOU HERE. NOT TOO LONG FOR THAT SIGNAGE PACKAGE. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. IT LOOKS GREAT. YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. OKAY, OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE FROM STAFF TONIGHT? NOPE. THAT'S IT. I WAS LOOKING FORWARD TO THE UPDATE WITH MR. HENSON'S NOT HERE TO. DO YOU WANT TO ELECT NEW MEMBERS TO ASK ABOUT THE CBS? OH, YEAH. HAS THERE BEEN ANY ANY NEW NEWS WITH CBS PHARMACY? YES THERE IS. SO I BELIEVE THE SIGN HAS BEEN REMOVED. PRESSURE WASHING WILL BE HAPPENING. I'M NOT SURE THEY KNOW WHEN THE NEW SIGN IS COMING IN THOUGH. I THINK THAT THAT'S PROGRESS.
IT'S PROGRESS. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE? DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? SO MOVED.
SECOND. MR. STROLLER. YES. MR. MALLET YES, MISS. MR. BROWN. YES. MISS MOORE YES, YES. HA
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.