May 13, 2026 Sustainability Advisory Board

[I. Call to Order]

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LIKE TO CALL TO ORDER THE. WEDNESDAY, MAY 13TH, 2026 MEETING OF THE NEW ALBANY SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD MEETING AT 630. CAN STAFF PLEASE ROLL CALL MR. SCHUMACHER HERE. MR. BARNES HERE, MISS GALLO HERE, MISS SCOTT HERE. MR. KOCIAN HERE, MISS KOPPELMAN HERE, MR. BURAK HERE, MISS GRIFFITH. COUNCIL MEMBER. KINSLER. HERE. WE HAVE FOUR.

[III. Action of Minutes: April 8, 2026 Meeting Minutes]

RIGHT. SEEING NONE, I WILL JUST MOVE TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF APRIL 8TH, 2026 ADVISORY ADVISORY BOARD MEETING AND APPROVE THEM WITH UNANIMOUS CONSENT. MAKES IT EASY FOR YOU.

[IV. Additions or Corrections to Agenda]

[VI. Business]

AGAIN, MY NAME IS JENNIFER CHRYSLER. I'M THE DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT FOR THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY. I AM HAPPY TO SAY THAT I HAVE JUST CELEBRATED MY 21ST YEAR HERE SERVING THE CITY. LAST SATURDAY I WAS TEN WHEN I STARTED AND IT'S BEEN A WONDERFUL, WONDERFUL JOURNEY AND CERTAINLY DEDICATING MY LIFE TO PUBLIC SERVICE. I SERVED IN THE CITY OF GAHANNA BEFORE I CAME TO NEW ALBANY, AND IT'S BEEN JUST ABSOLUTELY INCREDIBLE TO BE A PART OF SUCH A GREAT COMMUNITY AND HELP THAT COMMUNITY GROW IN SUCH A RESPONSIBLE WAY. I'M ALSO ESPECIALLY HAPPY TO BE HERE BECAUSE I'M GOING TO TAKE YOU THROUGH THIS PRESENTATION, AND THIS IS SOMEWHAT MORE OF A STOCK PRESENTATION, BECAUSE WE WANTED YOU TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WE WERE OUT TELLING THE PUBLIC. AND SO WE'LL GO QUICKLY THROUGH SOME OF THE SLIDES THAT YOU'RE ALREADY GOING TO BE AWARE OF. BUT A LOT OF THESE SLIDES REALLY TALK ABOUT US AS A PLANNED COMMUNITY. I CAN'T SPEAK TO HOW DATA CENTERS OR ANY INDUSTRY FOR THAT MATTER, SPECIFICALLY OPERATE IN PLACES OUTSIDE OF NEW ALBANY. BUT WHAT I CAN SPEAK TO IS THE DATA AND THE INFORMATION THAT I HAVE FOR HOW WE MANAGE THEM, AND HOW WE HAVE GROWN THEM HERE RESPONSIBLY WITHIN OUR OWN COMMUNITY. SO I GET PEOPLE ALL THE TIME WITH QUESTIONS THAT THEY'VE READ A GOOGLE ARTICLE, WHICH I ACTUALLY THINK IS KIND OF FUNNY BECAUSE THEY'RE SEARCHING AI FOR ARTICLES ABOUT DATA CENTERS AGAINST DATA CENTERS, BUT AND THEY'LL CITE SOME SORT OF STATISTIC. AND THAT'S NOT WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE. DOES IT MEAN THAT IT'S NOT HAPPENING IN THAT OTHER PLACE, IN THAT OTHER LOCATION? I DON'T KNOW, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT THOSE THINGS ARE TYPICALLY NOT HAPPENING WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY. A BIG PART OF OUR PRESENTATION IS ACTUALLY ABOUT OUR STRATEGIC PLAN. WE ARE STRATEGIC PLAN COMMUNITY, AS YOU KNOW, AND THIS BOARD WAS ACTUALLY BORN OUT OF ONE OF OUR LAST BIG STRATEGIC PLAN EFFORTS.

SO IT'S JUST AMAZING TO KIND OF BE HERE AND SEE HOW THE WORDS ON PAPER COME TO LIFE RIGHT BEFORE YOUR VERY EYES. THIS IS SOMEWHAT INFORMAL. SO IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS ALONG THE WAY, JUST STOP ME. BUT I CERTAINLY HAVE TIME TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AT THE END. SO AGAIN, AS YOU'RE WELL AWARE, WE ARE STRATEGIC PLANNING COMMUNITY. WE STARTED PLANNING BACK IN 1998, AND WE UPDATE THE PLAN HOLISTICALLY ABOUT EVERY 5 TO 6 YEARS THROUGH A VERY, VERY COMPREHENSIVE PUBLIC PROCESS. WE GO OUT IN THE LAST PROCESS WAS DONE IN 2019 INTO 2020. THE PLAN WAS ADOPTED IN 2021. WE WILL DO FOCUS AREA PLANS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE BIG PLAN UPDATES, BUT THE REAL IDEA IS THAT THIS PLAN WAS NEVER BORN BY A BUNCH OF PLANNERS SITTING IN A ROOM.

IT WAS ACTUALLY GOING BY STAKEHOLDERS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY WHO ARE MOSTLY OUR RESIDENTS, AND THEN NOW OUR BUSINESSES WHO ARE HERE AS WELL. THE LAST PLAN, WE WENT OUT AND WE LENGTHENED THE PROCESS, AND WE ACTUALLY DID SIX MONTHS OF PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT BECAUSE WE HAD ALREADY STARTED DOWN THE PATH WITH A LOT OF THE, YOU KNOW, THE BUSINESS PARK WAS OVER HALFWAY BUILT OUT. RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITIES ARE BUILDING OUT. WE HAVE PARTNERSHIPS WITH THE SCHOOLS, GREAT SCHOOLS, TOWNSHIPS, ALL THE THINGS. AND WE REALLY WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COMMUNITY HAD INPUT INTO WHAT WE WERE DOING NEXT. AND SO ONE OF THE THE MAIN FOUNDATIONS THAT REALLY WAS BORN OUT OF THE 1998 PLAN AND STILL BECOMES OUR GUIDING LIGHTS TODAY ARE FOUR PILLARS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY, WHICH IS HEALTH AND WELLNESS, ARTS AND CULTURE, LIFELONG LEARNING AND SUSTAINABILITY. SO WHAT WE ASK OURSELVES IS THAT ARE THE DECISIONS THAT WE'RE MAKING TODAY WITH RESPECT TO INVESTMENTS AND INFRASTRUCTURE, ARE THEY FURTHERING EFFORTS WITHIN THE BUSINESS PARK TO BRING REVENUE INTO THE COMMUNITY THAT HELP US TO SUPPORT THESE PILLARS? AND IF THE ANSWER IS NO, THEN WE WOULD NEED TO RETHINK WHAT WE'RE DOING AND COME UP WITH A DIFFERENT STRATEGY. SO WHO ARE

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NOW, THIS REPRESENTS 79% OF OUR GENERAL OPERATING REVENUE. AND FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DON'T KNOW, CITIES AND VILLAGES IN OHIO RELY PRIMARILY ON INCOME TAX IN ORDER TO FUND ALL OF OUR CITY SERVICES. SO WHETHER IT BE PARKS, POLICE SERVICE. WE DO HAVE A JOINT PARKS DISTRICT HERE, WHICH IS A PROPERTY TAX LEVY, BUT THE ADDITIONAL PARKS THAT THE CITY OWNS AND RUNS LIKE TAYLOR FARM PARK, ROSE RUN PARK ALL COME FROM TYPICALLY GENERAL FUND REVENUES. WHEN I FIRST GOT HERE IN 2005, ABERCROMBIE AND FITCH WAS THE LARGEST EMPLOYER, AND THEY REPRESENTED OVER 75% OF OUR OPERATING BUDGET, WHICH IS A PRETTY FICKLE AUDIENCE TO BASE YOUR OPERATIONS AND YOUR CITY OFF OF. IF YOU'RE TRYING TO REALLY RUN A SUSTAINABLE TYPE OF COMMUNITY. SO DIVERSIFYING OUR INDUSTRY BASE WAS ACTUALLY ONE OF THE FIRST GOALS OF THE STRATEGIC PLAN THAT WAS CREATED AT THE TIME THAT I WAS HIRED, BECAUSE THE CITY AND THE VILLAGE AT THE TIME WAS ACTUALLY WORRIED ABOUT WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IN THE CASE OF A RECESSION, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IN THE CASE OF A GLOBAL PANDEMIC? HOW WOULD THE CITY BE ABLE TO SUSTAIN AND PROVIDE NOT JUST BASIC SERVICES TO OUR RESIDENTS, BUT ALSO PROVIDE EXTRAORDINARY SERVICE TO OUR RESIDENTS? SO THIS IS WHAT THE INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK LOOKS LIKE TODAY.

THIS IS JUST KIND OF A SNAPSHOT OF WHO WE ARE AND HOW WE'VE GROWN. SO THIS IS WHERE IT WAS WHEN I FIRST STARTED. TODAY, IT'S GROWN INTO ABOUT 9000 ACRES. I JUST WANT TO NOTE THOUGH, THAT THIS AREA, THIS IS A MAP THAT WE DID JOINTLY WITH THE NEW ALBANY COMPANY TO KIND OF SHARE IN SOME OF THE MARKETING THAT WE'VE DONE TOGETHER. SO THIS AREA HERE IS ACTUALLY NOT IN THE CITY AND WILL NOT BE GREEN CHAPEL RIGHT NOW IS OUR FINITE LINE TO THE NORTH. THIS AREA HERE IS MING STREET. THIS IS IN JERSEY TOWNSHIP WHERE WE'RE DOING A COOPERATIVE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH JERSEY TOWNSHIP TO HELP THEM WITH THEIR PLANNING. BUT THIS WILL NOT BE IN THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY. AND THEN THE HAMILTON CORRIDOR, OBVIOUSLY IS NOT IN THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY EITHER. BUT THIS JUST KIND OF GIVES YOU A LARGER PERSPECTIVE. OBVIOUSLY, THE METRO PARK, WHICH KIND OF CAPS THE COMMUNITY HERE TO THE NORTH OF HOW THE PARK HAS GROWN. WE NOW WE WENT FROM ONE INDUSTRY CLUSTER WHEN I FIRST STARTED TO.

NOW SIX MAJOR INDUSTRY CLUSTERS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. SO HEALTH AND LIFE SCIENCE, WHICH IS REALLY THE MOST RAPIDLY GROWING ONE RIGHT NOW, HIGH TECH MANUFACTURING AND LOGISTICS, PERSONAL CARE AND BEAUTY CAMPUS IS TECHNICALLY HIGH TECH MANUFACTURING, BUT WE LOVE THEM SO MUCH. WE GAVE THEM THEIR OWN CLUSTER. CORPORATE OFFICE AND R&D STILL REMAINS A CLUSTER WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. THEN NOW SEMICONDUCTOR CLUSTER, WHICH IS THE BROUGHT ABOUT BY THE INTEL PROJECT AND THEIR SUPPLIERS. AND THEN WE HAVE THE INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY AND MISSION CRITICAL CLUSTERS. SO WITH RESPECT TO IT AND MISSION CRITICAL, WE HAVE 15 DATA CENTER COMPANIES THAT ARE LOCATED WITHIN THE COMMUNITY THAT ACTUALLY STARTED INVESTING IN 2010. SO IF YOU LOOK AT THIS MAP HERE, THE FIRST DATA CENTER COMPANIES WERE CLUSTERED HERE AROUND 605 AND NEW ALBANY ROAD EAST. AND THIS IS KIND OF INTERESTING HOW THIS CAME ABOUT.

SO PARTLY BECAUSE OF INFRASTRUCTURE, RIGHT? SO HOW DO YOU CREATE A CLUSTER, AN INDUSTRY CLUSTER AND HOW DO YOU KEEP IT? ONE OF THE MAIN PRINCIPLES OF AN INDUSTRY CLUSTER IS YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE DIFFERENT COMPONENTS OF THAT INDUSTRY WITHIN THE CLUSTER IN ORDER TO MAKE IT SUCCESSFUL AND TO BALANCE. RIGHT. AND SO WHAT HAPPENED HERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF AN ANOMALY. THERE'S NOTHING SPECIFIC ABOUT THIS AREA RELATIVE TO, YOU KNOW, WATER OR POWER SERVICE, BUT THIS WAS A TRANSITION AREA THAT FLIP-FLOPPED ZONING FROM RESIDENTIAL TO COMMERCIAL BACK AND FORTH, BECAUSE IT WAS A

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AND SO DATA CENTERS AND PARTICULARLY ENTERPRISE DATA CENTERS, WHICH IS ONE SPECIFIC TYPE OF DATA CENTER, WAS SEEMED LIKE A GOOD FIT IN 2009, 2010 FOR, FOR A BUSINESS PARK. THE REASON WHY IS BECAUSE THEY'RE RELATIVELY GOOD NEIGHBORS. THEY HAVE RELATIVELY NO NOISE. THEY DON'T HAVE TRUCK TRAFFIC, THEY HAVE VERY LITTLE EMPLOYEES AND VERY LITTLE LIGHT. AND SO THEY THEY TEND TO MAKE GOOD NEIGHBORS. AND IN A LOT OF CASE STUDIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY, ENTERPRISE DATA CENTERS ARE TYPICALLY THAT FILLER COMPANY THAT YOU MIGHT FIND IN BETWEEN A RESIDENTIAL AREA AND A BUSINESS PARK. WE DID THIS ACTUALLY FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. SO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT APPROACHED US IN ABOUT 2008, 2009. FORND FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE HERE, THEY WERE READY TO GO BACK ON THE BALLOT AND THEY WERE STRUGGLING FINANCIALLY. AND SO WE REALIZED THAT THESE ENTERPRISE DATA CENTERS, THEY HAD VALUATIONS IN SOME OTHER LOCATIONS ABOUT THREE, FOUR TIMES THAT OF A CLASS A OFFICE BUILDING. AND SO WE OFFERED A 65% TAX ABATEMENT, WHICH MEANT THAT 35% OF THESE FACILITIES WOULD BE TAXABLE, AND THAT 35% ON EACH FACILITY WAS WORTH FOUR TIMES WHAT A CLASS A OFFICE BUILDING WOULD HAVE BEEN TO THE SCHOOLS FOR THE REVENUE THAT THEY WERE BRINGING IN. AS A RESULT OF THAT STRATEGIC DECISION, THE CITY WASN'T REALLY BRINGING IN ANY REVENUE FROM THOSE, BUT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WAS THE TOWNSHIP WAS FIRE WAS. AND SO WE WERE ABLE TO HELP OUR COMMUNITY PARTNERS BY CLUSTERING THIS GROUP RIGHT HERE. IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE DID HAVE SOME OTHER ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITY THAT CAME ALONG AMERICAN REGIONS. IN RETROSPECT, I'M NOT 100% SURE THAT THAT ENDED UP BEING THE RIGHT LOCATION FOR THAT COMPANY.

AMERICAN REGIONS IS A MANUFACTURER. AND NOW, YOU KNOW, IN RETROSPECT, IT MAYBE SHOULD HAVE BELONGED HERE. WHEN THEY FIRST STARTED, THEY WERE A MOM AND POP SHOP THAT WAS OWNED BY A GROUP THAT STARTED THEIR OWN BOUTIQUE PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANY, AND THEY SOLD TO A NATIONAL INTERNATIONAL CONGLOMERATE, WHICH WAS ONE OF THE LARGEST PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANIES IN THE WORLD. AND THAT'S SOME OF THE EXPANSIONS THAT WE'RE SEEING THERE NOW. BUT THIS IS REALLY KIND OF WHERE IT STARTED AND THEN HOW IT GREW AND WHY IT WAS IMPORTANT IS BECAUSE THESE DATA CENTERS HERE DON'T USE ANY MORE WATER THAN A TYPICAL CLASS A OFFICE. SO WE DIDN'T HAVE TO BUILD ANY ADDITIONAL WATER INFRASTRUCTURE INTO THIS AREA. AND THEN THEY DON'T THEY'RE NOT PARTICULARLY HIGH POWER USERS. THERE'S THREE DIFFERENT FEEDS OF POWER THAT COME INTO THIS AREA. SO FOR THEM, IT WAS MORE IMPORTANT TO HAVE REDUNDANCY OF POWER THAN IT WAS CAPACITY IN POWER. AND AGAIN, SEEMED LIKE A PRETTY GOOD FIT AND A PRETTY GOOD TRANSITION PARTNER. SO THEY'VE BEEN OPERATING HERE STARTING IN 2010. AND I THINK THE LAST ONE WAS FINISHED IN 2012. AND SO THEY'VE THEY'VE BEEN IN THE COMMUNITY FOR QUITE SOME TIME. WE'VE HAD, YOU KNOW, VERY LITTLE COMPLAINTS ABOUT THEM. THERE'S ONE PARTICULAR ONE THAT WE DID RECEIVE A COMPLAINT ABOUT, AND IT WAS REMEDIED WITHIN A MATTER OF DAYS IN TOTAL. AND ALL OF THE DATA CENTERS THAT WE HAVE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY SINCE 2010, WE'VE ONLY RECEIVED FOUR TOTAL COMPLAINTS. THREE OF THEM HAVE BEEN RESOLVED IN A NUMBER OF DAYS. AND THEN I'LL TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE FOURTH ONE THAT IS ONGOING RIGHT NOW. SO AS WE EXPANDED INTO LICKING COUNTY, AND HERE'S THE LICKING COUNTY LINE, YOU'LL NOTE THAT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PLAN, WE HAVE NO CITY RESIDENTIAL THAT'S WITHIN LICKING COUNTY. AND THAT WAS ACTUALLY DONE PURPOSELY BY COUNCIL. SO WE DIDN'T HAVE DIFFERENT CONSTITUENTS IN DIFFERENT IN DIFFERENT VOTING DISTRICTS. AND SO AS WE MOVED INTO LICKING COUNTY, AEP DECIDED THAT THEY WERE GOING TO LOCATE THEIR MISSION CRITICAL FACILITY HERE IN THE FIRST PROPERTY IN LINCOLN COUNTY TO DEVELOP. SO ALL OF THIS WAS UNDEVELOPED. AND THEN THIS ALL CAME LATER ON, WITH THE BEAUTY PARK BEING KIND OF RIGHT THERE. SO THERE WERE PLANS ON THE SHELF WITH, IN ACCORDANCE WITH OUR STRATEGIC PLAN FOR HOW WE WERE GOING TO BUILD OUT THE ROADS, WATER AND SEWEREVENTUEVEN IT WOULD COME. BUT UNFORTUNATELY, THIS HAD A PRICE TAG TO IT OF SOMEWHERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF ABOUT $65 MILLION TO START AND ULTIMATELY $85 MILLION. SO WE WERE JUST HOW ARE WE GOING TO UNLOCK THIS GROUND FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITY TO GROW THESE CLUSTERS? WELL, WHEN AEP LOCATED ITS MISSION CRITICAL FACILITY HERE IN 2010, THEY.

THIS IS THE POWER FACILITY THAT CONTROLS THE GRID FOR THE 12 STATE REGION. IT'S THE BRAINS OPERATION FOR AEP. AND SO IT EVEN HAS A MODE YOU CAN'T GET INTO IT. IT'S VERY HIGH TECH.

AND SO THEY BUILT JUST TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF POWER FACILITIES INTO THE BUSINESS PARK IN ORDER TO SERVE THAT FACILITY. SO ALL OF A SUDDEN, ALL OF THESE SITES HERE HAD JUST AN INORDINATE AMOUNT OF POWER. THERE WAS 500MW OF POWER. AND TO JUST GIVE YOU AN IDEA, THE ENTIRE BUSINESS PARK RIGHT NOW IS SERVED BY ONE GIGAWATT OF POWER BY AEP. AND SO 500MW OF POWER MADE THIS AREA THE MOST POWERED SITE IN THE STATE OF OHIO. SO IN 2014, WE STARTED GETTING CALLS FROM COMPANIES, YOU KNOW, QUITE FRANKLY, ALL OVER THE WORLD THAT FOUND OUT THAT WE HAD THESE POWERED SITES AND SOME OF THEM WERE SEMICONDUCTORS. WE COMPETED FOR

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THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN KIND OF ON THE SCALE OF INTEL. AND THEN LO AND BEHOLD, PRETTY QUICKLY, SOME OF THE DATA CENTERS AND THE FIRST BIG HYPERSCALER DATA CENTER WAS META THAT CAME HERE IN 2015. AND THAT'S WHERE WE REALLY STARTED TO BRANCH INTO THAT INDUSTRY CLUSTER. AND THAT'S THE SECOND TYPE OF DATA CENTER YOU'LL SEE WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY, WHICH IS THE HYPERSCALE DATA CENTERS. SO THE META STORY IS, IS PRETTY UNIQUE IN THAT THEY THEY CAME, THEIR ORIGINAL REQUIREMENT WAS 500 ACRES. THEY GREW TO ABOUT 700 ACRES. AND WE REALLY LEARNED A LOT FROM THIS ORIGINAL CLUSTER OF DATA CENTERS. WE HAD A SMALLER AWS PROJECT THAT HAD LOCATED IN THE COMMUNITY. AND SO THAT'S WHEN WE THOUGHT, GOSH, WE REALLY NEED TO FIGURE THIS OUT. SO WE ROLLED UP OUR SLEEVES AND WE THOUGHT, HOW ARE WE GOING TO GET VALUE OUT OF THIS? BECAUSE THERE'S VERY, VERY LITTLE JOBS, WHICH ON THE ONE HAND MEANT THAT THAT WAS GREAT FOR TRAFFIC AND IT WAS GREAT FOR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AND OUR CITY SERVICES, RIGHT? BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE TO SERVICE THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE. AND YOU THINK ABOUT THIS BEAUTY PARK AREA HERE, THERE'S 44,600 PEOPLE THAT WORK IN THE IN THE BEAUTY PARK OVER THREE SHIFTS, YOU KNOW, 24 HOURS A DAY. SO THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE COMING INTO THIS AREA, A LOT OF CALLS FOR SERVICE. ABERCROMBIE HAS ABOUT 2000 PEOPLE IN THEIR CAMPUS. DISCOVER WHEN IT WAS HERE BEFORE WE PURCHASED IT FOR BALL FIELDS, THEY HAD ABOUT 2000 PEOPLE ON THAT CAMPUS. SO YOU KEEP ADDING THESE BIG CAMPUSES, AND WHILE THEY PAY A LOT OF INCOME TAX, YOU ALSO HAVE TO SERVE THEM. SO WHAT WE ENDED UP DOING IN EVERY ABATEMENT FORMULA THAT WE HAD IN THE COMMUNITY, AND I DIDN'T COME UP WITH THIS ORIGINAL IDEA, PEOPLE A LOT SMARTER THAN ME DID. BUT EVERY FORMULA, EVERY ABATEMENT THAT WE GIVE OUT, EVERY INCENTIVE IS BASED ON A REVENUE GENERATION PER SQUARE FOOT FORMULA. YOU EITHER MEET THE FORMULA OR DON'T. WE HAVE COMPENSATION AGREEMENTS IN PLACE WITH THE SCHOOLS WHERE WE COMPENSATE THEM? UP UNTIL THE DATA CENTERS CAME IN, BECAUSE OF THEIR VALUATION, WE WERE WITHIN 10% OF MAKING SCHOOLS WHOLE EVERY SINGLE YEAR. IN FACT, THAT'S PART OF THE REASON WHY THE SCHOOLS WERE IN THE CRISIS THEY WERE EARLY ON, IS BECAUSE ALL OF A SUDDEN EVERYBODY THOUGHT WHEN THESE ABATEMENTS THAT WERE OFFERED EARLY ON WERE GOING TO FALL OFF, THE SCHOOLS WOULD HAVE THIS WINDFALL. AND THEY REALIZED BECAUSE OF OUR REVENUE SHARING AGREEMENTS, THEY WEREN'T GOING TO HAVE A WINDFALL, AND THEY WERE JUST GOING TO CONTINUE TO COLLECT THE SAME AMOUNT OF REVENUE THAT WE WERE WE WERE ALMOST GIVING THEM. SO THAT WAS KIND OF INTERESTING PHENOMENON.

SO WE THOUGHT, WELL, HOW CAN WE CREATE VALUE OUT OF THIS? SO WE CREATED A FORMULA FOR DATA CENTERS SPECIFICALLY FOR HYPERSCALERS. AND THE FORMULA BASICALLY, AND THIS IS KIND OF WHAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT THE HISTORY OF DATA CENTERS. BUT THE WAY THAT THE FORMULA WORKS IS THAT WE CREATED A MINIMUM ANNUAL SERVICE PAYMENT. SO THAT'S WHAT YOU SEE RIGHT HERE.

SO WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT WE TOOK THE SAME IDEA AS WHAT WE DID WITH THE MINIMUM SQUARE FOOT FORMULA FOR CLASS A OFFICE AND ADVANCED MANUFACTURINGND HE HEALTH AND LIFE SCIENCE. AND WE SAID, ACCORDING TO OUR STRATEGIC PLAN, IF THIS SITE IS SUPPOSED TO DEVELOP AS ADVANCED MANUFACTURING OR CORPORATE OFFICE, HOW MUCH INCOME TAX REVENUE WOULD WE COLLECT? AND THAT WOULD BE THE MINIMUM ANNUAL SERVICE PAYMENT. SO WE CAME UP WITH A FORMULA FOR THAT. SO IN ORDER FOR ANY OF THE DATA CENTERS NOW TO RECEIVE INCENTIVES FROM THE CITY, THEY HAVE TO MAKE THIS MINIMUM ANNUAL SERVICE PAYMENT AND TO JUST AND THAT MINIMUM ANNUAL SERVICE PAYMENT HAS TO BE WHAT WE WOULD HAVE RECEIVED IF IT WAS CLASS A OFFICE, CORPORATE CAMPUS OFFICE, PARTICULARLY, OR ADVANCED MANUFACTURING. SO WHAT THAT MEANS FROM A PRACTICAL STANDPOINT IS I'LL GIVE YOU JUST A LITTLE EXAMPLE, AND THIS IS KIND OF FASCINATING, AND THIS IS HOW I THINK WE'VE REALIZED A LOT OF OUR SUCCESS IS THAT ON THIS CAMPUS, WHICH IS 700 ACRES, THE MINIMUM ANNUAL SERVICE PAYMENT IN 2025 FOR TAX YEAR 2024 WAS $3.9 MILLION. IF YOU USE OUR INCOME TAX RATE, WHICH IS 2%, AND YOU BACK INTO THAT NUMBER, THIS WOULD HAVE HAD TO HAVE BEEN A COMPANY WITH A PAYROLL OF $175 MILLION. IN ORDER FOR US TO GENERATE THAT SAME AMOUNT OF REVENUE ON THAT PROJECT. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU. I'VE BEEN DOING THIS A LONG TIME, SINCE I WAS TEN. RIGHT? WE ALREADY COVERED THAT. I DON'T KNOW MANY COMPANIES THAT HAVE $175 MILLION PAYROLL. SO FROM A FINANCIAL PERSPECTIVE, THE CITY IS ABLE TO GENERATE AS MUCH REVENUE AS WE WOULD HAVE IF THIS WERE DEVELOPED AS SOMETHING ELSE. SO FROM A REVENUE STANDPOINT, NOT ONLY DID WE WE MAKE OUT, BUT WE ACTUALLY ARE MUCH FARTHER AHEAD. WHAT'S INTERESTING IS THAT WE ALSO CREATED WHAT'S CALLED A NEW COMMUNITY AUTHORITY IN LINCOLN COUNTY. SO EVERYBODY IN THIS AREA OF LICKING COUNTY, EVERYBODY, ALL THE DIFFERENT CLUSTERS, THEY HAVE TO PAY AN ADDITIONAL SERVICE FEE OF 9.75 MILLS, WHICH IS A CHARGE THAT'S NOT ABATED, THAT GETS ASSESSED AS A PART OF THEIR TAX BILL. THAT'S WHAT GOES IN PARTIALLY TO REPAY FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE BUILT IN ORDER TO SUPPORT THEM. SO THEY ARE ALL PAYING THEIR OWN WAY. AND AN

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SO THEY'RE PAYING FOR THEIR OWN INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE'RE BUILDING, AND THEN THEY'RE PAYING MEGA RATES TO THE CITY OF COLUMBUS FOR THE ACTUAL WATER THEY USE. WHAT THIS ALSO MEANS IS THAT WITH OUR SERVICE PLAN WITH COLUMBUS, WE HAVE TO DO REAL TIME MONITORING IN ADDITION TO THIS DESKTOP MODEL. SO WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO ASSURE THEM THAT WE'RE NOT TAKING MORE WATER THAN WE SAID WE WOULD, BECAUSE AGAIN, THEIR SYSTEM HAS TO BE ABLE TO SUPPLY IT TO US.

AND SO USING OUR REAL TIME MONITORING, WE KNOW EXACTLY IN NEW ALBANY HOW MUCH WATER ALL OF OUR USERS ARE USING, NOT JUST DATA CENTERS. AND WE DO THAT THROUGH REAL TIME MONITORING IN ORDER TO KEEP TRACK OF THAT. AND WE, WE, WE LOOK AT THOSE ANALYZES AND WE RUN THOSE CONTRACTS, WE MANAGE THOSE CONTRACTS, AND WE WILL, FOR AS LONG AS WE HAVE THAT RELATIONSHIP WITH COLUMBUS, WHICH IS A 75 YEAR COMMITMENT, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THEY REQUIRE IN ORDER TO CONTINUE TO DELIVER WATER TO US. SO ALL OF THAT INFORMATION IS DATA THAT WE HAVE THAT'S READILY AVAILABLE. NOW, I DO WANT TO POINT SOMETHING OUT THAT'S REALLY KIND OF INTERESTING IS THAT AS WE'RE RECORDING THESE PROJECTS AND DOING THESE PROJECTS, WE HAVE NEGOTIATED DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS WITH PRETTY MUCH EVERY USER WITHIN THE PARK. IT'S NOT JUST DATA CENTERS. WE TREAT EVERYBODY PRETTY EQUALLY WHEN IT COMES TO THAT TYPE OF PRACTICE. SO WE WANT TO KNOW HOW MUCH WATER YOU'RE USING. AND WE'VE ALREADY ALLOCATED THROUGH OUR STRATEGIC PLAN HOW MUCH WATER WE THINK YOU SHOULD BE USING. AND SO WE ALREADY KNOW THAT THIS QUADRANT HERE WAS GOING TO BE DEVELOPED AS SOME SORT OF GE DISTRICT TYPE OF ZONING. IT WAS ALREADY ZONED FOR GE. SO IT'S GOING TO BE SOME FORM OF MANUFACTURING OR IT'S GOING TO BE SOME SORT OF. DISTRIBUTION OR SOME HIGH INTENSITY USE. SO THE DATA CENTER ITSELF ULTIMATELY ENDS UP BEING A LITTLE BIT MORE LOW INTENSITY USE, BECAUSE WHEN IT'S BUILT OUT, THE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES WILL BE SO MUCH LOWER THAN IT COULD HAVE OTHERWISE BEEN. BUT WHAT I ALSO WANT TO POINT OUT IS THAT IN OUR ZONING CODE, WE HAVE, AND I'M SORRY, GOING BACK TO THESE AGREEMENTS, WE ACTUALLY THEN GO TO THE COMPANIES THEMSELVES AND WE SAY WE DON'T WAIT FOR THEM TO SAY TO US, WE WANT 5 MILLION GALLONS OF WATER. THAT'S GREAT, BUT HERE'S HOW MUCH THIS SITE IS ALLOCATED, AND THIS IS WHAT YOU CAN HAVE. WHAT THEY DO ON THEIR SITE IS WHAT THEY DO ON THEIR SITE. SO SOME OF THEM HAVE AIR COOLING, SOME OF THEM HAVE CLOSED LOOP SYSTEMS. SOME OF THEM HAVE VARIOUS TANKS ON SITE UNDERGROUND THAT THEY USE FOR STORAGE TO RECYCLE WATER. THAT'S NOT REALLY OUR CONCERN NECESSARILY. AS LONG AS THEY'RE MEETING ALL OF THE REGULATIONS. OUR CONCERN IS THAT WE HAVE A CONTRACTUAL COMMITMENT THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO USE ANY MORE WATER THAN WHAT SOMEBODY ELSE WOULD HAVE USED IF THEY HAD DEVELOPED ON THAT SITE AS WELL. THAT'S OUR CONTRACTUAL COMMITMENT. AND THE WAY THAT WE MONITOR THAT IS THROUGH THE REAL TIME FLOW MONITORING. THE OTHER THING THAT'S KIND OF INTERESTING IS THAT OUR PLANNING COMMISSION IS GENIUS. AND WHEN WE REZONED ALL OF THESE AREAS TO GENERAL EMPLOYMENT, WHICH IS A HEAVY EMPLOYMENT DISTRICT, OCD IS OUR OFFICE CAMPUS. NONE OF THIS IS OCD AND NEVER HAS BEEN. IT'S ALL BEEN GE DISTRICT, WHICH IS

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THEY'VE OPERATED WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY FOR YEARS. I JUST THINK THAT WITH THE BOOM IN AI, THE ACTUAL PACE OF DEVELOPMENT RIGHT NOW, SPECIFICALLY IN NEW ALBANY, IS GOING FASTER THAN WE EVER THOUGHT IT WOULD GO. AND SO WE'RE SEEING OUR BUILD OUT CONDITION HAPPENING TODAY AS OPPOSED TO HAPPENING, YOU KNOW, TEN YEARS AGO WHERE WE THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO TAKE THAT LONG FOR THE PARK TO BUILD OUT AMGEN IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE. THEY'RE NOT A DATA CENTER, BUT THEY'RE A PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANY. THEY PURCHASED 185 ACRES WITHIN THE COMMUNITY AND TOLD US THAT THAT WAS A 20 YEAR BUILD OUT, AND THEY'RE JUST FINISHING THEIR PHASE TWO AFTER OPENING THEIR PHASE 1 IN 2021, THEY'RE FINISHING PHASE TWO, AND THEY ALREADY HAVE PLANS NOW FOR PHASE THREE, AND THAT CAMPUS IS GOING TO BE BUILT OUT IN LESS THAN SEVEN YEARS. SO WE'RE SEEING THAT ACROSS ALL OF THE INDUSTRIES, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK IS CAUSING A LOT OF ANGST WITHIN THE COMMUNITY WE HAVE RIGHT NOW. ACCORDING TO PLACER AI, WE HAVE 25,000 CONSTRUCTION WORKERS THAT ARE COMING TO OUR COMMUNITY ON A DAILY BASIS. THAT'S WHAT'S CAUSING TRAFFIC. THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT'S A TEMPORARY PROBLEM. AND AS THESE CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS WRAP UP, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO SEE A LOT OF DIFFERENCE THERE. THE OTHER ISSUE IS THAT THAT MEANS WE HAVE A LOT OF SITES THAT ARE UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND CONSTRUCTION. LIGHTING IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THAN IN CONSTRUCTION. NOISE IS ACTUALLY COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THAN REGULAR NOISE. SO SOME OF THE LIGHTING LIGHT POLLUTION THAT WE'RE SEEING IN THE COMMUNITY IS ACTUALLY DIRECTLY RELATED TO CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITY THAT'S GOING ON THAT WILL GO AWAY, BUT THEY HAVE TO MEET CERTAIN OSHA REQUIREMENTS IN ORDER TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, SAFE CONSTRUCTION HABITATS THAT WE DON'T NECESSARILY REGULATE. SO WE CAME UP WITH THIS MINIMUM PAYMENT SERVICE. YOU KNOW, THE SITES WERE ALREADY ZONED. WE HAVE THIS INFRASTRUCTURE. AND WHAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO IS ESTABLISH THIS FORMULA FOR US THAT CAN MAKE THEIR MINIMUM SERVICE PAYMENT FROM DIFFERENT REVENUE STREAMS. IT CAN BE FROM TIF COLLECTIONS, IT CAN BE FROM THIS COMMUNITY AUTHORITY PAYMENT THAT WE TALKED ABOUT.

IT CAN BE INCOME TAX AND WE DO ACCEPT CASH. WHAT WE'RE FINDING IS THAT NOT ONLY ARE WE GENERATING AND USING THAT EXAMPLE THAT I GAVE YOU, THE CITY IS GETTING READY TO ISSUE $50 MILLION WORTH OF BONDS IN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS. THOSE BONDS ARE GOING TOWARDS THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE VETERANS MEMORIAL, THE EXPANSION OF THE POLICE STATION, AND AN EXPANSION OF THE TRAINING FACILITY FOR POLICE UP AT BEAVER PARK, AND THEN AN EXPANSION OF THE ACTUAL SERVICE FACILITY AT BILHEIMER. THAT ENTIRE BOND STREAM IS BEING FUNDED 100% BY THE REVENUE THAT'S COMING SPECIFICALLY FROM THE DATA CENTERS, BECAUSE IT IS SOME OF IT IS COMING IN AS RESTRICTED FUNDS. WE CAN ONLY USE IT FOR CAPITAL PROJECTS.

TAYLOR FARM PARK, ROSE RUN AGAIN, ALL OF THESE PARKS, ALL OF THESE AMENITIES THAT YOU SEE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY, IT TAKES WEIGHT OFF OF THE GENERAL FUND SO THE GENERAL FUND CAN CONCENTRATE ON CITY SERVICES. BUT WHAT IT DOES IS TAKE THAT CAPITAL EXPOSURE OFF OF THE GENERAL FUND AND PUTS THAT INTO A POCKET OF OF PROJECTS THAT HAS TO BE BUILT. THE $10 MILLION THAT WE JUST SPENT TO BUY THE DISCOVER PROPERTY, TO TURN THAT INTO BALL FIELDS FOR

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THERE'S NEVER BEEN A VIOLATION. THE LAST THREE FACILITIES THAT THEY BUILT THAT WERE COMMISSIONED IN JUNE, THEY ORDERED FAN PARTS FROM A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT MANUFACTURER, AND THERE IS A NOISE THAT'S COMING FROM THEM, AND IT'S A LOW FREQUENCY NOISE THAT IS DEFINITELY IMPACTING THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THAT AREA. IT'S NOT EVERY DAY. IT'S NOT EVEN ON HOT DAYS. THERE'S NO RHYME OR REASON TO WHEN THAT NOISE IS HITTING AND HOW IT'S COMING. WE WERE FIRST MADE AWARE OF THIS IN SEPTEMBER 17TH. IT WAS THE DAY BEFORE I TURNED 50. AT A COUNCIL MEETING. WE NOTIFIED GOOGLE. BY SEPTEMBER 30TH, GOOGLE IN WRITING HAD CONFIRMED THEY DIDN'T MAKE US PROVE THE PROBLEM. WE DIDN'T HAVE TO HIRE A SOUND ENGINEER TO PROVE THAT THEY WERE VIOLATING THE CODE. THEY CAME OUT AND SAID, THIS IS NOT HOW WE OPERATE. THIS IS NOT HOW WE OPERATE IN NEAR RESIDENTIAL AREAS. WE'VE BEEN A GOOD NEIGHBOR FOR YEARS. SO THEY HAD DEPLOYED MECHANICAL ENGINEERS FROM ACROSS THE COUNTRY THAT CAME IN. WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THEM SINCE OCTOBER. IN DECEMBER, THEY IDENTIFIED THE FACT THAT IT WAS THE MANUFACTURER OF THE FANS. THEY PROCURED NEW FAN PARTS, WHICH HAVE A LEAD TIME OF 6 TO 8 MONTHS. THEY'VE PROCURED A SET OF CRANES TO COME IN AND, AND, AND NOT THAT THIS SHOULD BE JUSTIFIABLE TO ANYBODY'S QUALITY OF LIFE, BUT THEY ARE GOING TO DECONSTRUCT SPEND $25 MILLION TO DECONSTRUCT THOSE TOWERS AND REBUILD THEM WITH THE RIGHT FAN EQUIPMENT. IT'S AND THEY'VE ALL DONE THAT AND COMMITTED TO THAT ON THEIR LETTERHEAD. WE'VE ALSO HAD SOME COMPLAINTS ABOUT TRAFFIC IN THAT AREA. MOST OF IT IS CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC. AND SO WE'RE WORKING ON SOME OF THE CONSTRUCTION, LIGHTING, CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC AS WELL, AND TRYING TO REROUTE THAT TRAFFIC IN A MORE IN A MORE POSITIVE WAY. AIR POLLUTION, AGAIN, MONITORED BY THE EPA. WE MEET WITH THE EPA ON A REGULAR BASIS TO TRY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THERE'S, YOU KNOW, ATTAINMENT VERSUS NON-ATTAINMENT AREAS, WHAT THEY'RE MONITORING, HOW THEY'RE LOOKING AT IT. NO COMPLAINTS HAVE EVER COME FROM NEW ALBANY, FROM ANY OF OUR DATA CENTER USERS. IN FACT, THE EMISSIONS IS MOSTLY STEAM BECAUSE IT'S ANY SORT OF OR ALL STEAM BECAUSE IT MIGHT BE WATER THAT'S USED AS PART OF THAT REUSE PROCESS. AND THAT COOLING HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE AND IT ENDS UP BEING STEAM. NO CHEMICALS HAVE BEEN FOUND IN THAT IN THAT PROCESS AT ALL NOW. SO. WHAT, WHAT, WHAT TYPE OF DATA CENTERS DO WE HAVE IN THIS COMMUNITY? YOU KNOW, MOSTLY DATA CENTERS THAT HAVE BEEN, YOU KNOW, ACTIVE COMMUNITY MEMBERS, SOME OF THESE FOLKS. AND, AND SHE WAS OUR VOLUNTEER OF THE YEAR AWARD WINNER. RIGHT. METTA DOES A MILLION AND A HALF DOLLAR ACTION GRANTS EVERY TWICE A YEAR. THEY MADE SURE THE LICKING HEIGHTS SCHOOL DISTRICT WAS 1 TO 1. LICKING HEIGHTS HAD FOUR COMPUTERS IN EACH CLASSROOM WHEN COVID HIT. WHEN THEY WENT HOME, KIDS DID NOT HAVE ACCESS TO TECHNOLOGY. METTA MADE SURE EVERY KID HAD HAD A COMPUTER. THEY DON'T TEND TO INVEST, YOU KNOW, AND PEOPLE ARE LIKE, OH, WELL, WILL THEY COME AND SUPPORT THE BALLET? PROBABLY NOT. YOU KNOW, PROBABLY NOT. THEY'RE GOING TO SUPPORT STEM. THEY'RE GOING TO SUPPORT ANY SORT OF EDUCATION INITIATIVES. VETERAN CAUSES ARE REALLY IMPORTANT TO THEM. AND SO THOSE TEND TO BE THE ONES THAT THEY SUPPORT THE MOST. AND THAT'S WHEN YOU'LL SEE THEM IN THE SCHOOLS WORKING WITH THE SCHOOLS ON PROGRAMING. PART OF WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW, AND THIS IS I KNOW CHARLES HAS ASKED ABOUT THIS A COUPLE TIMES, IS WHEN WHEN INTEL CAME TO TOWN, EVERYBODY HAD A STORY ABOUT WHAT WAS HAPPENING WITH INTEL. RIGHT. AND THERE WAS SO MUCH MISINFORMATION OUT THERE. AND WE'RE FINDING THAT THERE'S A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF MISINFORMATION OUT THERE RIGHT NOW ABOUT DATA CENTERS. WE CAN'T I MEAN, AT LEAST THE WAY THEY OPERATE IN NEW ALBANY. AND IF PEOPLE WANT TO TALK ABOUT HOW THEY OPERATE SOMEWHERE ELSE, THAT'S FINE. BUT IF THEY'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT HOW THEY OPERATE HERE, WE HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY ABOUT IT BECAUSE WE HAVE TAKEN GREAT STRIDES TO BE VERY, VERY RESPONSIBLE WHEN IT COMES TO DEVELOPING THESE WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY. AND SO WE CREATED THE SILICON HEARTLAND WEBSITE AS A REPOSITORY OF TRUTH GOOD, BAD AND INDIFFERENT. RIGHT? WE HAD AN EPA VIOLATION, ONE OF OUR OWN PROJECTS, AND WE REPORTED IT ON HERE BECAUSE WE FELT LIKE IT WAS THE RIGHT THING TO DO. SO THERE MIGHT BE A VIOLATION IN THE FUTURE, RIGHT? WE SHOULD REPORT THAT ON, ON THESE WEBSITES SO THAT PEOPLE KNOW. SO WE ACTUALLY JUST SIGNED THE CONTRACT YESTERDAY TO CREATE A MICRO SITE FOR DATA CENTERS THAT'S SIMILAR TO THIS. ALL THE FAQS AND THE CONTENT FOR THAT'S DONE. WE SPENT THE LAST SIX MONTHS WRITING THAT AND WORKING ON IT, AND WE HOPE TO HAVE THAT CONTENT DELIVERED THE TO THE WEBSITE COMPANY SO THAT THEY CAN GET UP AND RUNNING. THE ONE MOMENT THAT I'LL SHARE REAL QUICK, AND THEN I CAN ANSWER

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AND BY THE WAY, WE'VE FORCED EVERY ONE OF THESE DEVELOPMENTS TO BUILD SO THAT IN CASE WE EVER GET TO BUILD A PURPLE PIPE, THEY HAVE THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO CONNECT INTO IT FOR, FOR WATER REUSE SYSTEM. BUT TO YOUR POINT, I THINK THERE'S SOME THERE'S SOME LOW HANGING FRUIT THAT ON THE BALANCE OF THESE SITES, ON THE 60% THAT'S UNDEVELOPED, THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE DEVELOPED IN THE FUTURE. WHAT TYPES OF ENCOURAGEMENT, WHAT TYPES OF OPPORTUNITIES CAN THEY HAVE BY COMING IN AND MEETING WITH THE SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE AND TALKING ABOUT HOW THEY CAN DO THINGS BETTER. OR I WOULD ALSO SAY, WHAT INITIATIVES DO YOU HAVE THAT THEY COULD CONTRIBUTE TO? I MEAN, AWS IS AN EXAMPLE. THEY GAVE US 22 ACRES OF GROUND THAT THEY DONATED TO US ON GREEN CHAPEL ROAD. THAT'S MILLER ROAD AND GREEN CHAPEL IN THAT AREA.

ADRIAN JOLIE'S EYES LIT UP BECAUSE SHE KNEW THIS GROUP HAD BEEN TALKING ABOUT COMPOSTING AND WHAT A GREAT SITE FOR REGIONAL COMPOSTING, RIGHT? SO I THINK THAT LIKE YOU'RE HEADED IN THE RIGHT PATH. AND I THINK THAT IF WE CAN IDENTIFY THINGS THAT ARE POSSIBLE BECAUSE WE DON'T NEED SOME OTHER SORT OF LEGISLATIVE ENTITY TO, TO REGULATE IT, THEN I THINK ALL OF THOSE IDEAS ARE VALUABLE, BUT I WOULD ALSO ENCOURAGE THEM TO GET ON BOARD BECAUSE SUSTAINABILITY IS IMPORTANT TO THEM, AND THEY KNOW THAT THEY CAN'T BUY RENEWABLES. THEY KNOW OHIO LEGISLATURE WON'T ALLOW THEM TO MEET THEIR SUSTAINABILITY STANDARDS HERE.

THEY HAVE TO MEET IT BY BUYING CREDITS SOMEWHERE ELSE. AND SO HOW DO WE GO TO THEM? AND WE SAY, LOOK, WE'VE GOT POCKET PRAIRIES AND WE'RE DOING TWO AS AN EXAMPLE, BUT WE WANT YOU TO FUND TEN. SO MAYBE IT'S NOT JUST STUFF ON THEIR SITE, BUT IT'S STUFF THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY THAT THEY WILL SPONSOR AND BE A PART OF. YEAH. AND I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY THAT IN NEXT MONTH, TWO MONTHS, WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT THE ECOS PROGRAM, WHICH ISN'T A STANDARD NECESSARILY, BUT IT'S A PROGRAM THROUGH THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, AND THERE'S SOME CONVERSATION TO BE HAD AROUND THAT SAME THING. YEAH, PERFECT. ANOTHER QUESTION PEOPLE ASK A LOT ABOUT IS REUSE. YOU KNOW, WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IF THESE THINGS BECOME OBSOLETE. AND I THINK THAT'S ANOTHER PIECE OF IT TOO, IS, YOU KNOW, WE'VE WE'VE LOOKED AT A LOT OF THESE FACILITIES. WE CAN'T KEEP A MANUFACTURING FACILITY, A MANUFACTURING FACILITY ON THE MARKET. THEY'RE GONE BEFORE THEY'RE EVEN FINISHED CONSTRUCTION. THESE ARE NOT SPECIALIZED FACILITIES. IT'S NOT LIKE INTEL WHERE YOU HAVE 40FT OF TECHNOLOGY INFRASTRUCTURE UNDER THE GROUND, FEEDING THIS LIKE MONOLITHIC ANIMAL. DO YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? THESE ARE IT'S TILT UP CONCRETE CONSTRUCTION ON A CONCRETE SLAB. WHAT'S WHAT'S BETTER SUITED FOR THAT THAN MANUFACTURING? RIGHT. SO THE, THE NICE PIECE OF THIS IS THAT WE COULD GET THIS INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE. MAYBE SOMETHING HAPPENS IN THESE BUILDINGS BECOME OBSOLETE INDIVIDUALLY. AND THIS IS KIND OF HOW ABERCROMBIE BUILT THEIR CAMPUS, WHICH WAS WISE. THESE INDIVIDUAL BUILDINGS, THEY'RE ANYWHERE FROM 75 TO 125,000FT■!, WHICH IS THAT SWEET SPOT FOR MANUFACTURING. THERE'S SOME GREAT REUSE OPPORTUNITIES OUT THERE FOR THEM. META IS DOING SOME TENSILE FABRIC STRUCTURES. YOU MIGHT SEE IF YOU GO OUT THERE, THEY LOOK THEY THINK THEY LOOK LIKE TECHNOLOGY BUILDINGS. I THINK THEY LOOK LIKE CHICKEN COOPS. BUT THAT'S ANOTHER EXAMPLE WHERE THEY'RE PUTTING THOSE IN. THEY HAVE A 5 TO 7 YEAR LIFE. WILL THEY PUT ANOTHER ONE UP? I DON'T KNOW, BUT IF THEY DON'T, THAT COULD BE ANOTHER COUPLE HUNDRED ACRES THAT'S INFUSED INTO THE BUSINESS PARK FOR FUTURE OPPORTUNITY. I HAVE A QUESTION.

YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT EPA AIR QUALITY MONITORING. IS THERE IS THERE A PERMANENT STATION IN ANY OF THOSE AREAS, OR IS THAT SOMETHING THEY'VE JUST COME IN AND DONE TESTING ON? SO I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT. I KNOW THAT THEY DO FREQUENT TESTING, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A PERMANENT STATION. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WEREN'T EXPECTING IS THE FACT THAT SEVERAL OF THE NEW DATA CENTERS ARE NOT ABLE TO BUY POWER FROM THE GRID BECAUSE AEP IS OUT OF POWER. AND SO THEY'RE BUILDING BEHIND THE METER GAS POWER GENERATION FACILITIES. SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH THE EPA TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THOSE ARE AND WHAT THEY MEAN. WE'RE VERY, VERY SATISFIED WITH THE TECHNICAL REGULATION THAT THEY'RE REQUIRED TO MEET. GAS POWER IS ACTUALLY MUCH, MUCH CLEANER THAN THAN COAL. AND SO THEY'RE ACTUALLY GENERATING POWER MUCH CLEANER. PEOPLE HAVE ASKED ABOUT DIESEL FOR THE GENERATORS. YOU KNOW, EVERY COMPANY IN THE COMMUNITY HAS DIESEL, SO YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET AWAY FROM THAT. RIGHT. AND THEY'RE FOR THEIR GENERATORS, RIGHT? SO THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO MORE DIESEL THAT'S RUNNING THESE GAS POWER PLANTS THAN EVE. WE, THE GAS POWER PLANTS ARE THE EPA SEEMS TO BE ABSOLUTELY COMFORTABLE WITH IT. THEY'VE THEY'VE APPROVED THE PERMITS WITHOUT ANY SORT OF VARIANCES. THEY'RE COMING OUT TO CONTINUE TO MONITOR TO SEE, YOU KNOW,

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AND THEN THIS IS MAYBE A LITTLE MORE FAR FETCHED, I GUESS, IS WAS WERE THERE ANY STUDIES DONE WITH TEMPERATURE LEVELS BECAUSE WE'VE REPLACED HUNDREDS OF HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF THOUSANDS OF ACRES OF FARMLAND AND TREE CANOPY WITH ALL THESE REFLECTIVE ROOFS? SO IS THERE ANYTHING THAT HAS BEEN DONE OR ESTABLISHED IN TERMS OF MONITORING WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IN AIR TEMPERATURE IS GOING TO BE OVER TIME FOR THE COMMUNITY? NO WE HAVEN'T. WE KNOW WE'VE DONE A LITTLE BIT OF WORK WITH INTEL BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, INTEL IS A HEAVY, HEAVY MANUFACTURER.

I MEAN, IT WILL LOOK LIKE SOMETHING THAT WE HAVEN'T SEEN IN THIS COMMUNITY. AND IF YOU GOOGLE PICTURES OF INTEL, YOU'LL SEE, I MEAN, IT'S A HEAVY MANUFACTURER. SO WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, DEFINITELY THEY HAD, YOU KNOW, THEY GOT THEIR EPA PERMITTING, BUT THEY NEEDED A VARIANCE IN ORDER TO GET THAT PERMITTING. NONE OF THE OTHER TYPES OF USES WITHIN THE COMMUNITY DID. AND I, AND I THINK THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST WATCHING THE IMPACTS OF THAT AS WELL. OKAY. I GUESS THAT WAS MY QUESTION. THANK YOU. JENNIFER, THIS WAS REALLY GREAT TO SEE THIS BECAUSE I, I WAS VERY CURIOUS. SO THANK YOU. IT WAS IT WAS GREAT. MY QUESTION IS ALONG THE LINES OF WHAT CHARLES JUST ASKED ABOUT MONITORING HEALTH AND WELLNESS, POLLUTION, LONGER TERM EFFECTS OF HEALTH, SINCE THAT'S ONE OF OUR TOP PILLARS IN THIS COMMUNITY. I MEAN, I GUESS PEOPLE THAT'S WHAT I HEAR A LOT OF PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT. AND THAT'S WHAT I, I'M CURIOUS PERSONALLY ABOUT IS HOW WILL THIS AFFECT NOT ONLY HUMANS, BUT OUR HABITATS AND OUR ECOSYSTEMS AND THINGS LIKE THAT FROM HAVING THESE TYPES OF VERY LARGE THINGS THAT WE'VE NEVER SEEN BEFORE. SO IT FEELS I THINK WHAT'S HAPPENING IS PEOPLE FEEL VERY UNSURE. AND I DON'T THINK THINGS HAVE BEEN TRANSPARENT, NOT BECAUSE OF THE CITY. I DON'T THINK THAT'S TRUE. I THINK THE CITY'S DONE WHAT THEY NEED TO DO. I THINK IT'S JUST MORE OF THE PARTNERSHIPS OF WHO WE'RE WORKING WITH, I THINK IS QUESTIONABLE SOMETIMES RIGHT NOW AND IN NEW ALBANY IT SOUNDS GREAT, BUT IF YOU STEP OUT OF NEW ALBANY, ANY DIRECTION, IT DOESN'T FEEL LIKE THAT. SO WHAT DO WE AS SUSTAINABILITY MEMBERS, HOW DO WE ADDRESS THAT AND BE GOOD NEIGHBORS? YOU KNOW, BE LIKE, HEY, EVERYTHING'S SUCCESSFUL HERE AT DELL CENTERS AND SUNBURY AND OTHER PLACES RIGHT AROUND US ARE STRUGGLING DAILY AND TRYING TO GET PETITIONS AND TRYING TO GET THIS ON, YOU KNOW, TO GET GET A PETITION FOR FALL, WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IF SOMETHING HAPPENS LEGISLATIVE WISE, I GUESS IS ONE OF MY QUESTIONS TOO. SO WE'VE BEEN SO WE'VE BEEN TALKING TO ABOUT TWO COMMUNITIES ON AVERAGE A WEEK.

AND ACROSS THE STATE OF OHIO, WE HAD TO CUT OFF INDIANA AND MICHIGAN BECAUSE WE WERE JUST OUR STAFF COULDN'T HANDLE IT. AND, AND WHAT WE FOUND IS THAT A LOT OF THE. THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION OUT THERE THAT'S BEING FUELED AND BEING FUNDED BY VERY LARGE SPECIAL INTEREST GROUPS. AND SO AND WE KNOW THAT VERY FACTUALLY. RIGHT. AND SO I'M NOT SURE EVEN IN SUNBURY AND ALL THESE OTHER AREAS, WHETHER SOME OF THE INFORMATION THAT'S COMING OUT IS, IS ACTUALLY IS FACTUAL OR NOT. I KNOW WHAT'S BEING SAID ABOUT NEW ALBANY AND HOW IT'S NOT VERY FACTUAL. AND SO I CAN JUST KIND OF EXTRAPOLATE AND KIND OF THINK THAT. BUT WHAT WE GO BACK TO IS OUR PLANNING ROOTS. AND I THINK WE HAVE TO FOUNDATIONALLY STAY IN THAT, LIKE WE DO THINGS THAT ARE DIFFERENT. AND BEFORE WE HAD A SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE, WE, WE DID THINGS FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS, AND WE CONTINUE TO DO THEM THAT ARE DIFFERENT AND JUST EXAMPLES WHEN WE BUILD OUR ROAD INFRASTRUCTURE. AND WE WERE GIVEN $300 MILLION FROM THE

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THE OTHER ISSUE IS THAT. SO I THINK ANY TIME THAT THEY CAN PRODUCE ENERGY THAT IS COMING FROM A CLEAN SOURCE, IT'S MEANING THEIR OVERALL CORPORATION GOALS, AND THEY'RE GOING TO INVEST AND WANT TO DO THAT. THEY'RE NOT AFRAID OF INVESTMENT. IT'S NOT THAT THEY DON'T WANT TO SPEND THE MONEY THEY'RE SPENDING, YOU KNOW, $150 MILLION EVERY OTHER YEAR ON REFRESHES OF EQUIPMENT. THEY'RE NOT AFRAID TO PUT $50 MILLION INTO A INTO A SYSTEM.

THE CHALLENGE IS IN OHIO, THEY HAVE TO ULTIMATELY HAS TO ULTIMATELY RELATE BACK TO THE GRID. AND SO IT HAS TO BE SOMETHING THAT THE THAT THE GRID CAN ABSORB. AND THEN YOU CAN KIND OF WORK IT INTO THE TO THE PROCESS. HOUSE BILL 15 JUST PASSED JUST THIS LAST YEAR, WHICH IS THE FIRST TIME THAT AN ALTERNATIVE ENERGY PROVIDER IS ABLE TO GENERATE ENERGY AND THEN SEND IT BEYOND ON SITE USE THE FIRST TIME. RIGHT. SO I THINK IN OHIO, WE'RE JUST SCRATCHING THE SURFACE ON HOW ALTERNATIVE FORMS OF ENERGY CAN BE PRODUCED AND USED. I THINK IT'S IT'S TRENDING DEFINITELY IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. AND I THINK THE USE OF THE GAS POWER FACILITIES IS CAUSING PEOPLE TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS THAT THEY WOULD NOT OTHERWISE HAVE. AND I THINK ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE CERTAINLY ON THE TABLE. IT'S JUST HOW DOES THAT RELATE BACK TO THE LEGISLATIVE BOUNDARIES THAT PEOPLE ARE LEGISLATIVE ISSUES THAT PEOPLE ARE BOUND TO BECAUSE OF THE LAW RIGHT NOW IN THE WAY THAT IT'S WRITTEN? BUT BUT AGAIN, YOU COULDN'T YOU COULD WE COULDN'T DO A ONE BIG GAS POWER PLANT SOMEWHERE AND SEND GAS POWER TO THE COMMUNITY BEFORE NINE MONTHS AGO. AND THAT WAS BARELY PASSED BY THE LEGISLATURE. AND THERE'S TALKS ABOUT EVEN OVERRULING THAT. SO THERE'S THERE'S SOME CONFLICTING THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING STATEWIDE THAT JUST MAKE IT ALSO VERY DIFFICULT, I THINK, TO DO SOME OF THOSE THINGS. I'M SORRY. ALONG THOSE LINES, I'VE THOUGHT I READ SOMEWHERE WHERE SOME COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE DATA CENTERS ARE ALLOWING RESIDENTS OR BUSINESS OWNERS TO HAVE BATTERY STORAGE, WHICH POWERS THEIR HOUSE. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S FROM RENEWABLES. AND THEN THAT EXCESS POWER IS FED BACK TO THESE DATA CENTERS WHEN THEY'RE NOT USED. I DON'T I DON'T KNOW THE DETAILS OF IT, BUT I THOUGHT IT WAS VERY INTERESTING CONCEPT. I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS IN OHIO. YEAH, I DOUBT IT WAS IN OHIO. I MEAN, I'M SURE THAT'S AN OPPORTUNITY.

BUT AGAIN, I MEAN, IT SOUNDS GREAT, BUT IN OHIO, THE WAY THE LEGISLATIVE STRUCTURE IS RIGHT NOW, THERE'S NOT AN AVENUE FOR US TO PURSUE THOSE KINDS OF OPPORTUNITIES. THINGS NEED TO CHANGE. THE CODE NEEDS TO CHANGE. THEY NEED TO CHANGE THINGS LEGISLATIVELY. I JUST I'VE BEEN KEEPING SOME THOUGHTS THAT KIND OF PIGGYBACK ON WHAT A LOT OF WHAT MOLLY HAD ACTUALLY BROUGHT UP, BUT I JUST FEEL LIKE THERE'S OBVIOUSLY A LOT OF REVENUE UPSIDE AND THERE'S A LOT OF LIKE SYMBIOTIC RELATIONSHIP THINGS THAT CAN BE HAPPENING WITH THESE DATA CENTERS AND OUR CITY WITH, YOU KNOW, MAKING NEW PARKS AND HAVING NEW EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS. BUT I ALSO DO FEEL LIKE WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO ASK THE HARD QUESTIONS ABOUT THE HABITATS AND THE ANIMALS AND THE HUMANS. YOU KNOW, EVERYONE WHO LIVES BY THESE CENTERS, AND WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF INFORMATION ABOUT THEM. AND IT DOES FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE DATA CENTERS, THEY DO HAVE KIND OF THE STAGE AND THEY ARE ABLE TO PROJECT THEIR VISION. BUT THERE IS ANOTHER SIDE TO IT. AND I THINK THERE'S LIKE MOST THINGS IN LIFE, THERE'S, THERE'S A MIDDLE, RIGHT? THE TRUTH IS USUALLY IN THE MIDDLE. AND I THINK IT WOULD BE VERY BENEFICIAL FOR EVERYONE IN OUR CITY TO HAVE LIKE THE CITY WEWEWEWEWEWEWEWEWEWEWEWEWEWEWEWN THAT HOPEFULLY CAN HAVE THE INFORMATION LIKE, OKAY, HERE'S WHAT THE DATA CENTERS ARE SAYING, BUT HERE IS WHAT SOME RESEARCH ACTUALLY SHOWS AND HERE'S WHAT WE THINK IS REALITY.

I MEAN, I THINK TO CHARLES'S POINT, I THINK THAT HAVING ACTUAL DATA, LIKE OUR CHEMICALS

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AND OUR CONCERN OVERALL IS THAT THE ACTUAL EVIDENCE THAT WE'VE COLLECTED AND THAT WE KNOW IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE'RE HEARING FROM IN OTHER PLACES. AND TO REITERATE, I THINK THAT DATA CENTER INDUSTRY HAS DONE A TERRIBLE JOB OF PR, LIKE THEY ARE LOSING THAT BATTLE HORRIBLY.

AND, YOU KNOW, IT IS WHAT IT IS. BUT TO JENNIFER'S POINT, THAT'S NOT OUR JOB AS A CITY. WHAT THEY DO. AND, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO KNOW HOW IT IMPACTS OUR COMMUNITY DIRECTLY. AND WE'RE NOT BEHOLDEN TO DATA CENTERS. I THINK THEY'VE BEEN A GREAT PARTNER IN THE COMMUNITY. YOU KNOW, A LOT OF FOLKS HAVE LIVED NEXT DOOR TO DATA CENTERS SINCE 2010 AND DON'T EVEN IT LOOKS LIKE AN OFFICE BUILDING BECAUSE IT DOESN'T GENERATE NOISE, YOU KNOW, VAPORS. THE WATER IS A CLOSED, YOU KNOW, SYSTEM. PROJECTS LIKE INTEL, THERE'S GOING TO BE A FAR NET POSITIVE OF TREES PLANTED ON THAT SITE THAN WAS THERE BEFORE. I MEAN, THESE AREN'T GOING INTO FORESTS.

AND AT LEAST IN NEW ALBANY, THESE ARE FARM FIELDS THAT WERE HEAVILY FERTILIZED AND POLLUTED WITH FERTILIZERS FOR DECADES. SO I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WE'RE LOOKING AT IT FROM A NEW ALBANYFICFIC PERSPECTIVE. WE HAD A DELEGATION FROM DENMARK HERE TODAY TO SEE HOW WE DO IT, BECAUSE WE'RE KNOWN IN THE INDUSTRY AS THESE ARE BEST PRACTICES. YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T SPEAK TO ANYTHING GOING ON IN SUNBURY OR JOHNSTOWN, OR THEY MAY USE WELLS, THEY MAY DUMP, YOU KNOW, INTO STREAM CORRIDORS, I DON'T KNOW. AND THAT VERY WELL COULD HAPPEN. DOES THAT HAPPEN IN NEW ALBANY? 100%. NO. IT'S A CLOSED SYSTEM. THE WATER COMES IN FROM CITY OF COLUMBUS, DOESN'T GO INTO ANY GROUNDWATER, GOES DIRECTLY BACK TO CITY OF COLUMBUS TO BE TREATED JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER. WHEN YOU FLUSH YOUR TOILET GOES TO THE SAME PLACE. THE WATER FROM, YOU KNOW, OUR DATA CENTERS GO TO, YOU KNOW, ARE WE PERFECT? NO LESSONS LEARNED. OF COURSE. I APPRECIATE JENNIFER GOING THE GENESIS OF HOW WE GOT HERE. AND IT'S NOT BECAUSE WE LOVE FACEBOOK AND LOVE, YOU KNOW, IT WAS IT MADE WE WANTED TO DIVERSIFY THE BUSINESS PARK. IT MADE ECONOMIC SENSE. THEY'VE BEEN FANTASTIC PARTNERS SINCE IT WAS CONSTRUCTED. NOW, THAT SAID, I THINK I'VE SHARED WITH COUNCIL, YOU KNOW, WE THEY WERE BROUGHT IN TO DIVERSIFY THE BUSINESS PARK. I THINK WE'VE REACHED THAT FAR QUICKER THAN

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AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, I THINK YOU SAW WHERE IT CAME FROM. I MEAN, THE THING THAT KIND OF CAUGHT US OFF GUARD, LIKE LESSONS LEARNED IS, YOU KNOW, THE POWER PIECE KIND OF CAUGHT UP TO US AND THEN THE BEHIND THE METER STUFF. AND NOW WE'RE GENERATING ON SITE AND, YOU KNOW, WE FELT A LITTLE POWERLESS INITIALLY. WE'RE LIKE, OH, SHOOT. LIKE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I WAS AT META LAST WEEK, YOU WALK IN, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE COMPLETED FACILITIES, IT'S AN OFFICE BUILDING. YOU GO IN, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, I DON'T PULL ON THE SITE AND THERE'S A HEAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A HEAT MAP THAT I FEEL, YOU KNOW, SUDDENLY. NOW, I'M NOT SAYING I'M GOING OFF OF NEW ALBANY. AND THE SYSTEMS THAT ARE THAT ARE CURRENTLY HERE AND HAVE BEEN HERE SINCE 2010. AND I COMPLETELY THE WATER USAGE, WHICH A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, THE WAY IT'S CALCULATED, THE, THE, THE NUMBERS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE 16 MILLION GALLONS A DAY THAT WAS LIKE MAX CAPACITY. AND A LOT OF THE TECHNOLOGY IS KIND OF CAUGHT UP WHERE THESE, YOU KNOW, SHE, FOR EXAMPLE, USES THE EQUIVALENT OF A, I THINK, FOUR HOUSEHOLDS OF WATER A DAY, WHICH IRONICALLY, LATER ON THE AGENDA, WE'RE GOING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO PLANT A BUNCH OF TREES DONATED BY QT'S. SO, YOU KNOW, I DO THINK A LOT OF THE GROSS STUFF AND I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH IS THE CONSTRUCTION PIECE OF IT RIGHT NOW. YOU GO OUT THERE AND IT IT'S FRANKLY, YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF GROSS. YOU GO OUT BY INTEL, I RIDE MY BIKE OUT THERE AND IT'S GROSS RIGHT NOW. BUT THEN IF YOU GO TO, YOU KNOW, TO JENNIFER'S .2000 CARS A DAY, THE LIGHTING, THEY'RE WORKING 24 HOURS A DAY. THAT IS, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, NOISE, LIGHT POLLUTION, THOSE ARE CONSTRUCTION PIECES THAT, YOU KNOW, ONCE THIS IS BUILT OUT, WE'LL, YOU KNOW, YOU DRIVE DOWN BEACH ROAD AT NIGHT WITH, YOU KNOW, GOOGLE ON ONE SIDE AND FACEBOOK ON THE OTHER. AND T LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE DRIVING THROUGH AN OFFICE PARK. SO LIKE I SAID, LESSONS LEARNED. AND BY NO MEANS I, I HOPE THAT THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY HAS NEVER GIVEN YOU THE IMPRESSION THAT THERE'S THIS VEIL OF PROTECTION AROUND DATA CENTERS. AND AGAIN, AS SOON AS IT WAS BROUGHT UP, YOU KNOW, WE STARTED WORKING ON IT. I WANTED JENNIFER TO COME IN HERE AND SHARE ANY QUESTIONS, ASK THE HARD QUESTIONS, BECAUSE THAT'S OUR JOB. AND WE MIGHT NOT ALWAYS LOVE THE ANSWER. YOU KNOW, THEY USE A LOT OF ELECTRICITY. AND, YOU KNOW, AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHAT I RATHER A DATA CENTER BE BUILT IN NEW ALBANY THAN JOHNSTOWN. YES. BECAUSE I THINK WE'RE GOING TO DO IT IN A BETTER WAY. THAT DATA CENTER IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE BUILT SOMEWHERE.

THAT'S WHETHER YOU AGREE WITH THAT OR NOT, WHETHER YOU LIKE AI OR NOT. THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT. IT'S NOT GOING AWAY. IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN SOMEWHERE. SO I AT LEAST, YOU KNOW, FOR THE PART THAT WE CAN KIND OF CONTROL IT, I'D LIKE TO AT LEAST HAVE OUR HANDS ON MAKING IT THE BEST POSSIBLE AND MOST MONITORED USE THAT THAT WE CAN IN NEW ALBANY. AND TO CASEY'S POINT, WE ARE TAKING A THOUGHTFUL PAUSE. WE WERE ANYWAYS, WHICH IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S COINCIDING WITH ALL THIS STUFF THAT'S GOING ON IN THE WORLD ABOUT DATA CENTERS. BUT IT HAPPENED TO BE SOMETHING THAT WE HAD BEEN TALKING ABOUT INTERNALLY FOR THE LAST NINE MONTHS. AND IT'S ONLY BECAUSE AS WE GROW UP AGAIN AS A MASTER PLANNED COMMUNITY AND WE'RE LOOKING AT BALANCE OF USES, WE ALSO LOOK AT BALANCE OF TYPES OF USES IN THE BUSINESS PARK AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE NOT HEAVILY WEIGHTED IN ONE TYPE OF USE OR ANOTHER. SO WE CAN SUSTAIN ECONOMIC DOWNTURNS AND WE CAN SUSTAIN PANDEMICS. AND WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, METRO PARKS AND POCKET PARKS AND ALL THE THINGS THAT WE NEED. AND SO WE'VE ACTUALLY BEEN THINKING ABOUT THE FACT THAT THE DATA CENTER INDUSTRY IS JUST KIND OF BOOMED ON US. AND SO WE WERE ALREADY TALKING ABOUT TAKING A THOUGHTFUL PAUSE, MOST DEFINITELY WITH ANY INCENTIVES.

SO ANYBODY THAT WOULD COME IN NOW WOULD NOT BE ELIGIBLE FOR FOR ANY INCENTIVES. AND THEN ALSO JUST THINKING ABOUT HOW TO MAKE SURE THOSE INDUSTRY CLUSTERS ARE BALANCED BECAUSE THAT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO. YOU KNOW, WE WERE SURPRISED IN ALL HONESTY. WE HAVE ANOTHER

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IT'S RIGHT HERE. EVERYONE OF US HAS CONTRIBUTES TO THEIR NEED. SO I THINK THEY'RE A NECESSARY PART OF SOCIETY THAT WE'VE BECOME PART OF WITH RESPECT TO COMING ON AIR AND WATER, THE FEDERAL CLEAN AIR ACT IS ONE OF THE MOST COMPLEX REGULATORY PIECES EVER ENACTED IN THE UNITED STATES. IT IS ALL IT IS EXTREMELY. POWERFUL. AND THE GOAL IS TO PROTECT THE AIR OF THE UNITED STATES IS WELL DEFINED AS A PERSON THAT DEALS WITH THE OHIO EPA AND OTHER REGULATORY AGENCIES. ON THE AIR SIDE, EVERY SINGLE DAY. I CAN TELL YOU THAT WHEN THE OHIO EPA WRITES THE PERMIT CONDITIONS FOR ANY AIR EMITTING FACILITY, THEY ARE VERY DIFFICULT.

THEY'RE TOUGH CONDITIONS THAT THEY IMPOSE ON US. THEY'RE REALISTIC, AND THEY'RE IN WRITTEN IN SO THAT THE PUBLIC IS PROTECTED. AND THE REGULATIONS THAT ARE ENACTED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ARE FOLLOWED. THERE IS EXTENSIVE AMOUNT OF TESTING THAT IS REQUIRED BY THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE AIR PERMITS, AND A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF REPORTING THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE AND REPORTED QUARTERLY. AND THEN EVEN, YOU KNOW, A FACILITY I WORK WITH, WE HAVE TO RECORD OUR DATA EVERY THREE HOURS. AND IF THERE'S ANY VARIATION OFF OF IT, WE HAVE TO NOTIFY THE OHIO EPA. SO MY POINT IS THAT ANY AIR PERMIT ASSOCIATED WITH INTEL OR ANY OF THE DATA CENTERS IS WELL WRITTEN, AND IT'S HIGHLY ENFORCEABLE. AND OF ALL THE AGENCIES I'VE EVER DEALT WITH, THE AIR AGENCY ENFORCEMENT IS NOT FORGIVEN.

THEY COME DOWN EXTREMELY HARD ON ANYONE THAT VIOLATES ANY OF THE PARAMETERS THEY'VE ESTABLISHED. AND THEY THEY DON'T FORGIVE ANYTHING. THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COMPANIES MAKE IT RIGHT. AND THEY'RE HEAVILY FINED ON ANY VIOLATIONS OR DEVIATIONS OF THE PERMIT. SO WITH THAT, I THINK THAT THE AIR IS ALWAYS A CONCERN. BUT I THINK THAT THE GOVERNMENT HAS THINGS IN PLACE THAT TRULY PROTECTS THE PUBLIC AND THE ENVIRONMENT THE BEST WE CAN. WHEN IT COMES TO THE WATER SIDE, I CAN SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, THE CITY OF COLUMBUS COMES TO OUR FACILITY TWICE A YEAR, DOES EXTENSIVE TESTING ON THE EFFLUENT. WE HAVE TO DO TESTING ON OUR OWN ON A DIFFERENT OFFSET CYCLE REPORT THAT WE HAVE VERY TIGHT GUIDELINES. AND AGAIN, THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE NOT GETTING ANYTHING THAT'S GOING TO IMPACT THEIR WATER QUALITY OR IMPACT THEIR TREATMENT SYSTEM. AND SO THEY ARE VERY MUCH INTERACTED WITH ALL THE BUSINESSES DOING ANNUAL INSPECTIONS. AND IF THERE'S ANY, ANY DEVIATIONS, THEY DO A GOOD JOB INVESTIGATING WHERE THE PROBLEMS ARE SO THAT IT DOESN'T IMPACT THEIR THEIR TREATMENT SYSTEM. SO AGAIN, THERE ARE REGULATORY BODIES IN PLACE IN THIS COMMUNITY THAT ARE TRULY LOOKING OUT FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE CITIZENS AND TO PROTECT THE ENVIRONMENT. SO. AND NO QUESTION FOR JENNIFER. THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO ALBANY RESIDENTS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR DIRECTOR CHRYSLER? GREAT SEEING THAT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. APPRECIATE IT AGAIN FOR YOUR TIME AND THANKS. THANKS FOR HAVING US.

GREAT. THANK YOU. DIRECTOR. SO OUR NEXT PRESENTER IS WILL KING, WHO IS THE PUBLIC SERVICE DIRECTOR'S OPERATIONS MANAGER AND FORMER CITY FORESTER FOR THE CITY. HE'LL GIVE THE THREE PRESENTATIONS. THE 2026 ARBOR DAY RECAP. YOU'LL COVER THE CITY STREET MANAGEMENT AND THE

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SO ARBOR DAY 2026. SIMILAR TO LAST YEAR, WE DID A TREE PLANTING DOWN AT OR OVER AT SWICKARD WOODS, WHICH IS KIND OF RIGHT BETWEEN THE SCHOOL GROUNDS AND KIND OF WHERE THE POOL IS AT OVER THERE. THIS YEAR, WE HAD APPROXIMATELY 404TH GRADE STUDENTS COME OUT AND PLANT APPROXIMATELY 300 SEEDLINGS IN THAT WOOD LOT. ONE THING WE DID DO VERY DIFFERENTLY THIS YEAR, WILLIAMS, WHICH IS A COMPANY OUT OF THE BUSINESS PARK, HAD REACHED OUT TO PUBLIC SERVICE ABOUT GETTING INVOLVED THIS YEAR. SO WHEN I FIRST TALKED TO ONE OF THEIR REPRESENTATIVES, WHICH WAS MAGGIE, SHE WANTED TO KNOW ABOUT VOLUNTEER OPPORTUNITIES AS WELL AS ANYTHING THEY COULD DONATE, OR JUST REALLY WANTED TO BE A PART OF THE EVENT OVERALL. SO AFTER A FEW EMAIL EXCHANGES, I FLOATED THE IDEA OF CERTAINLY WE COULD USE ALL THE HELP WE CAN GET OUT THERE KIND OF WRANGLING THE KIDS, BUT IT MIGHT BE A NEAT IDEA TO HAVE A SEEDLING THAT EACH OF THE STUDENTS COULD TAKE HOME WITH THEM AFTER THEY HAD PLANTED THE ONE FOR THE CITY. SO WILLIAMS GRACIOUSLY DONATED TO US 400 SEEDLING TREES. ADDITIONALLY, THEY KIND OF PATCHED THIS ALL TOGETHER, A LITTLE TAKE HOME PACKAGE THAT HAD SUNSCREEN SUNGLASSES, WHICH WERE PROBABLY THE BIGGEST HIT, AND A WATER BOTTLE. YEAH, THEIR VOLUNTEERS WERE ON SITE THE ENTIRE DAY, HELPING KIND OF GET KIDS SQUARED AWAY, ANSWER QUESTIONS, AND THEN ALSO PASS THOSE TAKE HOMES OUT AT THE END, WHICH WAS A BIGGER FEET THAN I ANTICIPATED. IN ADDITION TO WILLIAMS, WE ALSO DID HAVE META HAD REACHED OUT SAME BASIC QUESTION. UNFORTUNATELY, THEY HAD A CONFLICT THAT DAY. THEY HAD A SEPARATE AWARDS BANQUET THAT I KNOW PETE HAD TO GO OUT TO, SO THEY WERE SORRY THEY COULDN'T BE THERE. BUT WILLIAMS DID SAY THAT THEY WOULD LOVE TO DO THIS AGAIN NEXT YEAR, AND THEY HAD A FANTASTIC TIME AT THE EVENT. SO ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? WELL, YEAH, REAL QUICK, I KNOW WE WE DO THIS EVERY YEAR IN THE SEEDLINGS AND THIS MIGHT BRANCH INTO OUR NEXT DISCUSSION AS WELL. THE SEEDLINGS THAT WE PLANT IN THE GREEN LITTLE SCREEN AND EVERYTHING. AND YOUR PROFESSIONAL ESTIMATION, HOW MANY OF THOSE SEEDLINGS ARE GOING TO SURVIVE AND MAYBE BECOME TREES. SO SURVIVAL RATE OF SEEDLINGS IS EXTREMELY LOW. I KNOW SOME I NEVER COUNTED THEM DOWN AT ROSE RUN. THERE ARE QUITE A FEW PARTICULARLY I THINK IT WAS THE SWAMP WHITE OAKS THAT SURVIVED OVER AT ROSE RUN FROM 2025. IF I HAD TO GUESS, YOU'RE PROBABLY AT BEST GOING TO SEE MAYBE 5% OF THOSE MAKE IT TO ADULTHOOD. OKAY. BUT THAT KIND OF REFLECTS WHEN YOU'RE PUTTING IN A SEEDLING TREE. IF YOU LOOK AT LIKE A FOREST, LIKE SWICKARD WOODS, IT'S LIKE 1 IN 100 000 TREES WILL EVER MAKE IT TO THAT SIZE ANYWAY. SO YOU'RE SORT OF OVER KIND OF DOING THE PLANTING.

OKAY. HERE WE'RE TRYING TO KIND OF MATCH THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS. BUT YEAH, YOU'LL SEE USUALLY FOR I THINK WE DID A ROUGHLY, IT WASN'T EVEN A QUARTER ACRE, FIFTH ACRE SECTION. WE DID 300 TREES. YOU CAN SEE LIKE WE WERE ACTUALLY DOING REFORESTATION VOLUMES AS HIGH AS 1500 TREES GOING IN FOR THAT SPOT. OKAY. SO, SO YOU PLANTED YOUR FRUIT. YEAH. I MEAN, THIS IS YEAH, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, UNFORTUNATELY, YOU'RE ALL WALKING INTO THE RESULT OF CONVERSATIONS FROM LAST YEAR BECAUSE A THING THAT, THAT I'M PASSIONATE ABOUT IS TAKING THIS.

CERTAINLY I UNDERSTAND AND SUPPORT THE IDEA OF THE STUDENT ELEMENT OF IT. AND I THINK THAT'S REALLY CRITICAL. BUT FROM A CITY STANDPOINT, ALSO, HAVING TAKEN THAT OPPORTUNITY TO FIND EITHER THROUGH GREEN GUARDIANS OR THROUGH SENIOR CONNECTIONS OPPORTUNITIES WITH OTHER VOLUNTEERS THAT COME IN IN OTHER AREAS TO PLANT TREES AND LIKE SAPLINGS THAT ARE NOT HAVE A 50% OR 5% SUCCESS RATE. SO I KNOW WE'LL GET INTO CONVERSATIONS IN A COUPLE OF MONTHS ABOUT PLANNING FOR NEXT YEAR. BUT THAT'S JUST ONE THING THAT I THINK WE WOULD LIKE TO COME BACK AT FIGURE OUT. ANYTHING ELSE. OTHER QUESTIONS ON ARBOR DAY, I'M SURE YOU'RE INVOLVED. SO THANK YOU. I'M SURE YOU WERE INVOLVED. SO I WAS THERE. YEAH. GOOD. GOOD DAY.

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SO THAT WOULD BE SO EVERYBODY'S AWARE. THAT'S ME AND TWO OTHER PEOPLE, MY TWO FORESTRY SPECIALISTS, OTAVIO AND GABE HILTS. SO WHEN I KIND OF HAD TO LOOK AT THIS FROM A KIND OF, I WOULDN'T SAY BUILDING DEPARTMENT, BUT LIKE HOW I ENVISIONED IT, THE CYCLE PRUNING COMPONENT MAKES UP ABOUT 40% OF WHAT WE DO THROUGHOUT THE COURSE OF THE YEAR. SO OBVIOUSLY WE DON'T JUST GO OUT AND CYCLE PRUNE. THERE ARE OTHER ACTIVITIES WE DO THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, BUT I PROJECTED THAT I WANTED TO SPEND ABOUT 40% OF OUR TOTAL TIME WORKING ON THAT. SO THE WAY I BROKE IT DOWN, I THIS IS SOMEWHAT ARBITRARY, BUT JUST FROM MY OWN MINDSET, I KIND OF BROKE THE CITY INTO FOUR MAIN AREAS. I JUST CALLED IT NORTH, MID SOUTH AND EAST. NORTH IS LOOSELY WALTON PARKWAY UP TO PRETTY MUCH PUBLIC SERVICE. SO WALTON OR WALNUT, SORRY, THE MID SECTION IS KIND OF. WALTON DROPPING DOWN TO DUBLIN.

GRANVILLE. SO LIKE WINDSOR BROOKS OVER IN THERE. SOUTH IS EVERYTHING SOUTH OF DUBLIN, GRANVILLE AND THEN BORDERED MORE OR LESS BY 605 EAST IS BUSINESS PARK FOR MUCH OF THE EAST OF 605. SO ESSENTIALLY I TOOK THE MAIN ALLOCATION AND THEN ALLOCATED THAT OUT BASED ON THE TOTAL NUMBER OF TREE ASSETS WITHIN EACH AREA. SO THE COUNTRY CLUB ITSELF, BALLPARK IS AROUND 35% OF ALL THE TREES IN THE CITY. SO ESSENTIALLY, I TOOK 35% OF OUR TIME FOR THE CYCLE AND PUT IT THERE JUST THAT WAY. IT WAS KIND OF EVENED UP BASED ON TREE VOLUME PER AREA. THAT WAY OVER THE FIVE YEARS. IT'S FAIRLY EQUITABLE HOW WE'RE GETTING THROUGH THAT.

CAN I STOP YOU REAL QUICK? YEAH. SO WHEN WE GET INTO PART OF MY QUESTIONS, THERE MIGHT BE SOMEBODY ELSE'S EVENTUALLY IS GOING TO BE LIKE OVERLAP OF RESPONSIBILITIES, OVERLAP OF, OF AUTHORITY, I GUESS MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE. SO I KNOW RECENTLY DAVE WAS ASKED ABOUT ODOT INTERCHANGE ON 161 ESPECIALLY I FORGET WHAT ALL THE DIFFERENT CROSSINGS ARE WHERE THERE'S, YOU KNOW, ANY AMOUNTS OF, OF INVASIVE TREES GOING IN, IN THERE. IS THAT INCLUDED IN THIS OR THIS IS STRICTLY ON DRIVING A CAR ON A STREET IN THE CITY AND THERE'S A TREE. SO THE CYCLE PRUNING IS STRICTLY CITY OWNED STREET TREES. SO THAT WOULD BE TREE LAWN BASED WITHIN OUR RIGHT OF WAY CURB SIDEWALK. SO THEN IN LAMPTON PARK, WHICH I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH. YEAH. THERE ARE ANY NUMBER OF STREETS THAT ARE PLANTED BY, AND I ASSUMED MAINTAINED BY THEIR BUDGET, BY THE HOA. I KNOW THEY'RE PLANTED BY THE HOA. WHICH ONES? THE ONES THAT ARE ALONG THAT ON THE GOLF COURSE SIDE OF LAMPTON PARK ROAD. AND THEN RECENTLY THERE'S A BUNCH OF PLANTING THAT JUST HAPPENED ON GREENSWARD GOING OUT ALONG THE GOLF COURSE THERE, CORRECT? YEAH. GREENS. BOTH GREENS HAVE THAT LAMDEN A RIGHT OF WAY

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NO WORRIES. ALL RIGHT. SO WE DO A VARIETY OF OTHER PRUNINGS AS WELL. THE PRUNING CYCLE ITSELF, THERE'S KIND OF THREE MAIN THINGS WE'RE WORKING ON. ONE IS CROWN RAISING, WHICH IS BASICALLY CHANGING THE ELEVATIONS FROM THE GROUND TO THE LOWEST BRANCH TIP, NOT NECESSARILY THE BRANCH AGAINST THE TRUNK, BUT BASICALLY WHERE THAT CAN BE LESS. WE DO THAT FOR OBVIOUSLY A VARIETY OF REASONS, PROVIDING ONE CLEARANCE FOR ROADWAYS, SIGNAGE, DRIVEWAYS AND SIDEWALKS, LEISURE TRAILS, TRAFFIC SIGNALS, LIGHTING, ETC. ALL THAT INFRASTRUCTURE AND EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO KEEP CLEAR FOR SIGHT LINES, ETC.

ROADWAYS. THE WAY I ALWAYS ENCOURAGE RESIDENTS TO THINK ABOUT IT WHEN I'M TALKING ABOUT OUT AND ABOUT WHEN WE'RE CLEARING A ROADWAY, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY JUST FOR, YOU KNOW, THE SUV, THE LITTLE MONSTER, WHATEVER IT MAY BE THAT'S DRIVING DOWN THE ROAD. WE ARE CLEARING THE ROADWAY FOR BASICALLY ALL EXPECTED TRAFFIC. SO TWO THINGS THAT USUALLY PEOPLE DON'T THINK ABOUT, ALWAYS ONE, YOUR TRASH TRUCK, THAT'S PROBABLY ONE OF THE BIGGEST YOU'LL HAVE COME DOWN THE ROAD THAT HAS TO GET DOWN THE ROAD WITHOUT A DAMAGING THE TREES, B WITHOUT DAMAGING THEIR TRASH TRUCK. THE OTHER BIG ONE PLOW TRUCKS. WE DO PLOW CURB TO CURB, SO THE PLOW HAS TO BE ABLE TO GET THROUGH THERE WITHOUT GETTING THE PLOW TRUCK BEAT UP, BUT ALSO WITHOUT TEARING BRANCHES OFF THE TREES AND ALL THAT GOOD STUFF. A LOT OF RESIDENTS DON'T NECESSARILY THINK OF THOSE TWO VEHICLES. THEY TEND TO THINK OF MORE LIKE WHAT YOU'D SEE DAY TO DAY ON THE ROAD. CROWN CLEANING, ESSENTIALLY WHAT THIS IS REMOVING DEAD, BROKEN AND OR DISEASED BRANCHES. I DIDN'T COME UP WITH THE WORD CROWN CLEAN. THAT JUST SHOWS UP IN OUR STANDARDS. I'M NOT A HUGE FAN OF THE TERM, BUT BUT ESSENTIALLY THAT'S WHAT THAT IS. A LOT OF THAT IS FOR SAFETY PURPOSES. IT VARIES ON THE SIZE OF THE TREE. WHAT WE'RE DOING THERE. OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, REALLY BIG TREES. WE'RE LOOKING MORE AT TWO INCH DIAMETER BRANCHES. WHEN YOU GET DOWN TO LIKE YOUR LITTLE LIKE 4 TO 6 INCH TREES, WE WILL STEP THAT DOWN TO LIKE HALF INCH. SO WE DO KIND OF CATER THAT TO WHAT WE'RE PRUNING. AND THEN THE BIGGEST ONE THAT SEPARATES IT FROM EVERYTHING ELSE IS THE STRUCTURAL COMPONENT WHERE WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS BUILD TREES FROM A YOUNG AGE ALL THE WAY THROUGH KIND OF THEIR MIDDLE AGED OUT TO MATURITY. SO I'LL TRY TO EXPLAIN THIS AS WE GO ALONG. SO IT'S BASICALLY REMOVING OR REDUCING BRANCHES WITH HIGH ASPECT RATIOS. SO HIGH ASPECT RATIO IS BASICALLY A LARGE DIAMETER BRANCH RELATIVE TO THE TRUNK. SO GENERALLY YOU WANT TO SEE SOMETHING AROUND 30%. SO IF YOUR TRUNK IS SIX INCHES, ANY BRANCH AT THAT POINT YOU REALLY DON'T WANT TO BE ABOVE TWO INCHES. SO THERE'S A FEW THINGS WE CAN DO FOR THAT. ONE, WE CAN REMOVE A COMPETING STEM IF WE NEED TO, BUT PARTICULARLY ON YOUNG TREES AS THEY'RE GROWING, WE WANT TO KEEP SHIFTING THOSE LOWEST BRANCHES OFF THE TRUNK UP AND NOT HAVE THOSE KEEP GROWING UP AND BECOME A DOMINANT PART OF THE CANOPY,E ES DOWN THE ROAD, WE'RE STUCK WITH THIS LOW BRANCH THAT'S DIFFICULT TO CLEAR FROM THE ROAD. IT'S BLOCKING OTHER SIGNAGE. SO IN ORDER TO SLOW THE GROWTH OF THOSE BRANCHES, WE'RE NOT GOING TO REMOVE THEM IMMEDIATELY. WE'LL REDUCE THEM DOWN. SO BASICALLY, IF THEY'RE GROWING REALLY HIGH IN OUR EXAMPLE, THIS WILL PRUNE THEM DOWN AND KIND OF FLATTEN THEM OUT. SO THE UPPER CAN STILL GROW OUT ABOVE THEM AND IT SETS IT UP. SO WE'RE ALWAYS KIND OF PLANNING OUT WHAT ARE WE DOING IN FIVE YEARS. WHEN WE COME BACK, HOW ARE WE SETTING THIS TREE UP SO WE CAN MAKE THESE CUTS THE NEXT TIME AND HAVE THOSE CUTS BE AS SMALL AS WE CAN GET THEM? SPACING BRANCHES ALONG THE MAIN TRUNK. GENERALLY, YOU DO WANT 12 TO 18IN OVERALL BETWEEN YOUR WHAT WE WOULD CALL LIKE YOUR SCAFFOLD FIRST ORDER BRANCHES, THOSE FIRST BRANCHES OFF THE TRUNK JUST TO SPACE THINGS OUT. WHEN YOU GET CLUSTERING, USUALLY WHAT YOU'LL SEE IS EITHER THIS DOMINANT CENTRAL LEADER EVENTUALLY GETS OUT COMPETED BECAUSE OF ALL THE SIDE BRANCHES IN A CLUSTER, THE TOP DIES. SO NOW YOU KIND OF HAVE A LITTLE CABBAGE TREE OR SHRUB TREE THAT JUST NEVER GETS ANY VERTICAL HEIGHT. TWO IT WILL JUST STUNT THE TOP. IF IT DOESN'T KILL IT OUTRIGHT AND BASICALLY JUST DEFORMS THE TREE LONG TERM. AND THEN REMOVING, CROSSING AND RUBBING BRANCHES, NOT SO MUCH WORRIED ABOUT LIKE LITTLE TINY CROSSES. YOU'RE

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BUT THE ONLY WAY YOU'RE GOING TO GET THERE IS THROUGH PRUNING INTENTIONALLY WHILE THE TREE IS YOUNG. OTHERWISE, YOU END UP WITH TREES THAT, AS YOU DRIVE AROUND 6 TO 8FT, IS WHERE YOUR LOWEST CANOPY BRANCH IS, ADDS TO YOUR MAINTENANCE COST. BECAUSE IT TAKES A LOT TO KEEP THOSE TREES CLEARED. WE CAN'T GET OUT EITHER. IT'S LAURA'S WORST NIGHTMARE. COMING BACK FOR MORE. OH OH. YEAH. ESSENTIALLY IT JUST INCREASES MAINTENANCE COSTS OVER TIME. SO AS STRAIGHTFORWARD AS IT SEEMS, EVEN THE RAISING IS PART OF THE STRUCTURAL PRUNING TO KEEP SHIFTING THOSE UP. SOME SPECIES HOLD THAT STRUCTURE BETTER WITH LITTLE MANAGEMENT. THINGS LIKE LONDON PLANE TREE, WHICH KIND OF LOOKS LIKE AMERICAN SYCAMORE. IT'S ONE THAT APPEALS TO A WHITE BARK, NATURALLY, TENDS TO HOLD A PRETTY GOOD STRUCTURE AND JUST NATURALLY KEEPS THE CENTER STEM. MOST OF YOUR MAPLES ELMS TO A VARIABLE EXTENT. YOUR OAKS REALLY STRUGGLE WHEN THEY'RE OPEN GROWN TO KEEP THAT STRUCTURE. BUT THE PROBLEM IS, ONCE THEY GET TO 40, 50, 60FT THAT SIZE, YOU REALLY WANT TO BE, THAT'S WHERE THOSE DEFECTS THAT YOU'VE ALLOWED TO OCCUR, THAT'S WHERE YOU START SEEING THE TREE FAILURES AND THEN YOU HAVE IT.

IT'S FINALLY GOTTEN WHERE YOU WANT IT. NOW IT'S CUT DOWN, AND NOW YOU'VE GOT A 20 INCH TREE THAT NOW JUST BECAME THREE INCH TREE. SO I'LL TRY TO USE A POINTER HERE. THIS ONE MIGHT ACTUALLY WORK BETTER. SO IF I'M THINKING OF THE ROAD THIS IS NEW ALBANY ROAD EAST. SO THIS IS A BEFORE AND AFTER. SO THIS IS ONE WE DID IN THE WINTER WHICH SOMETIMES WINTER WE WILL DO CERTAIN SPECIES BECAUSE IT'S A LOT EASIER TO SEE THE STRUCTURE. WE CAN DO IT YEAR ROUND, BUT IT IS A LITTLE BIT EASIER. SO THIS IS WHAT WE KIND OF STARTED WITH, WHERE YOU KIND OF SEE THE TRUNK GOES UP INSTANTLY, KIND OF BIFURCATES TO TWO, AND THEN UP HERE JUST KIND OF GOES INTO JUST POLITELY CALL A MESS. SO LONG TERM, THAT'S A REALLY HARD STRUCTURE TO WORK ON. SO THIS IS THE AFTER PRODUCT. SO NOW IDEALLY YOU CAN SEE THAT SINGLE TRUNK GOING ALL THE WAY UP TO THE TOP. AND ALL IT WAS, WAS THIS LEFT SIDE JUST MAKING A SERIES OF REDUCTION CUTS THAT DOES A FEW THINGS. ONE, WHEN YOU TAKE BY THE BOOK, YOU NEED TO TAKE ABOUT 75% OF THIS BRANCH. THAT NEFARIOUS 75% OF LEAF AREA IDEALLY NEEDS TO DISAPPEAR. YOU ARE ESSENTIALLY TRYING TO STRESS THAT SIDE OF THE TREE. YOU'RE TRYING TO TAKE AWAY ITS PHOTOSYNTHETIC ABILITY TO A DEGREE, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WILL SLOW ITS GROWTH DOWN AND ALLOW THE TRUNK OVER HERE THAT YOU'RE DOING LESS TO, TO ESSENTIALLY CALIPER UP. THAT'S HOW YOU CORRECT THAT ASPECT RATIO. YOU SLOW ONE DOWN TO ALLOW THE OTHER ONE TO GROW OUT OF IT. TWO AS LONG AS THIS GOES UPRIGHT, IT BLOCKS LIGHT FROM THE INTERIOR. YOU GET VERY LITTLE BRANCH ON THE INSIDE. SO EVENTUALLY IF I HAVE TO REMOVE THIS BRANCH, THIS IS A REALLY UGLY TREE EVENTUALLY. SO BY FLATTENING THIS KIND OF OUT, I'M ALLOWING LIGHT TO COME INTO THIS TOP, WHICH ALLOWS THIS TO DEVELOP AND KEEP GOING UP. AND THEN FIVE YEARS LATER, WE'LL COME BACK IDEALLY ON SOME OF THESE TREES. I'LL KEEP WORKING THIS DOWN UNTIL I MIGHT BE ABLE TO REMOVE IT. IF NOT, IF AT LEAST SUBORDINATE IT TO A SPOT WHERE WHEN IT IS 40FT TALL, THIS IS LESS LIKELY TO BE A FAILURE POINT, BUT IT'S STILL ALSO, IF YOU GO UP THERE NOW, ONCE THEY LEAVE, LIKE IT'S MORE NOTICEABLE IN THE WINTER. ONCE IT LEAVES OUT, YOU CAN HARDLY TELL. WE PRUNE THIS AND IT JUST LOOKS LIKE AN AWESOME TREE. SAME THING HERE. I'M BLANKING ON THE ROAD I DID THIS ON. THIS IS A SAWTOOTH OAK. SO THIS IS I MEAN, MAYBE A THIS APPLIES TO EVEN BIG TREES. THIS IS PROBABLY A 45 FOOT TREE. SO RIGHT HERE IS ONE STEM. AND THEN PROBABLY BELOW MY FEET DOWN HERE IS THE SECOND STEM THAT COMES UP AND COMPETES. SO THEY'RE BOTH COMPETING NOW. AND THEN DOWN HERE IT BECOMES YOUR WEAK POINT AS THE TREE GETS BIGGER AND BIGGER. AND ALL THIS WAS RIGHT ABOUT HERE WHERE I'M ALMOST CUTTING RIGHT HERE WAS ONE REDUCTION CUT. BRING THIS DOWN TOP. STILL LOOKS NICE. THIS IS JUST SUBORDINATED TO THE SIDE WHICH ALLOWS THIS TO KEEP DEVELOPING. IT'S JUST ONE PROBABLY THREE INCH CUT. I

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THESE LOW BRANCHES ARE GROWING REALLY HIGH AND WIDE. SO AGAIN THESE ARE EVENTUALLY GOING TO START COMPETING FOR LIGHT IN HERE. THIS BECOMES YOUR LOWEST PERMANENT BRANCH AND IT FORKS OFF THE TRUNK. AND THIS WILL BE A 60 FOOT TREE FOUR FEET OFF THE GROUND. SO AGAIN ALL WE DID AGAIN PRUNED IT TO HAVE A NICE CENTRAL STEM. THESE WIDE ONES JUST TUCK THEM DOWN IN. AND THAT'S REALLY ALL IT NEEDED DONE. I MEAN THAT WAS PROBABLY 5 OR 6 CUTS. TOOK THREE MINUTES TO DO MOVE TO THE NEXT TREE. BENEFITS. YOU GUYS PROBABLY KNOW MOST OF THESE OF THESE CYCLE PRUNES. THERE'S NOTHING FANCY ABOUT THE PICTURE. I JUST THOUGHT IT WAS A PRETTY PICTURE.

IT'S LIKE THE FIRST NICE SNOW OF LAST YEAR. REDUCES RISK AND IMPROVES STORM TOLERANCE.

BASICALLY, IF YOU GET RID OF THOSE DEFECTS, THOSE DEFECTS BECOME YOUR FAILURE POINTS. SO WHEN WE HAVE WINDSTORMS THAT WE HAD IN MARCH, YOU'LL SEE MORE TREE FAILURES. FORTUNATELY, IN MARCH, THAT WAS BEFORE LEAF OUT INCREASED LIFESPAN OF THE TREE. THE BIG ONES THAT YOU GUYS MIGHT BE OF INTEREST IS THE INCREASED QUALITATIVE AND QUANTITATIVE BENEFITS THAT THE COMMUNITY GETS AS A WHOLE FROM THESE TREES. CARBON SEQUESTRATION RATES, STORMWATER MITIGATION, IMPROVED AIR QUALITY REDUCTION IN THE HEAT ISLAND EFFECT DOES IMPROVE PROPERTY VALUES. THERE IS ACTUALLY SOME GOOD RESEARCH PAPERS ON HOW MUCH LANDSCAPE CONTRIBUTES TO THAT, AND EMOTIONAL HEALTH AND WELL-BEING. THERE'S A LOT OF STUDIES ON THAT AS WELL. ALSO KIND OF TOUCHED ON THIS WITH THOSE EARLY INVESTMENTS AND THROUGH THE LIFE OF THE TREE, REGULAR PERIODIC MAINTENANCE, AGAIN, NOT NECESSARILY HUGE OVERHAULS, BUT VERY STRATEGIC CUTS. YOU CAN REDUCE YOUR LONG TERM MAINTENANCE COSTS. THEY'RE EASIER TO KEEP CLEARANCES OVER THE ROADWAY, EASIER TO KEEP SIGNS CLEARED, ALLOWS YOU TO BUDGET PLAN A LOT BETTER. YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO CONTRACT EACH YEAR. YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR STAFF IS CAPABLE OF EACH YEAR. ADDITIONALLY, LOWER PRUNING DOSAGE, PRUNING DOSAGE IS HOW MUCH ARE WE ACTUALLY REMOVING FROM THE TREE EACH TIME WE PRUNE IT? MOST OF THAT IS GOVERNED BY THE TIME SINCE THE LAST TIME THE TREE WAS PRUNED. SO IF YOU'RE RUNNING A REALLY LONG PRUNING CYCLE, SO LET'S SAY TEN YEARS, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO A LOT PRUNING EVERY TEN YEARS. THE SHORTER YOU CAN MAKE THAT CYCLE, THE LESS YOU HAVE TO REMOVE EACH TIME YOU DO IT. I PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE TOUCHED ON THIS EARLIER. SO PRUNING CYCLES, THERE'S A LOT OF RESEARCH OUT THERE, TONS OF JOURNAL ARTICLES YOU CAN READ. GENERALLY STANDARD 5 TO 7 YEARS. THE SWEET SPOT FOR A CITY LESS THAN FIVE IS GENERALLY NOT CONSIDERED ECONOMICALLY VIABLE OR PRACTICAL FROM BUDGET STAFFING STANDPOINTS. AS YOU GO BEYOND SEVEN, YOUR RETURN ON THAT INVESTMENT IN THE TREE DIMINISHES RAPIDLY, SO 5 TO 7 IS THE SWEET SPOT I CHOSE FIVE JUST MAYBE I'M AMBITIOUS. I ALSO KIND OF KNEW THAT IF I DO FIVE AND IT FALLS BACK A LITTLE BIT, I FALL TO SIX. I DON'T THINK IT'LL GO BEYOND SIX. SO WE ARE STILL ACTIVELY ADDING TREES TO OUR CANOPY. MESS MYSELF UP HAVING TWO OF THESE.

SO PRUNING IS KIND OF MY BIGGEST FOCUS. THAT'S WHERE I REALLY WANT OUR INTENTIONAL TIME TO BE. THAT HAS THE LARGEST RETURN ON INVESTMENT DOWN THE ROAD. OTHER THINGS WE DO, THESE ARE THE KIND OF THE CORE CATEGORIES WHERE I TRACK OUR WORK IN. SO CLEARANCE PRUNING, IDEALLY WE GET TO THOSE EVERY FIVE YEARS, BUT SOME TREES ARE HARDER TO RAISE OVER THE ROAD THAN OTHERS, DEPENDING ON THEIR EXISTING STRUCTURE. SPECIES AGE. I'D LOVE TO SEE I CAN GET TO 1415FT OF JUST VERTICAL ROAD CLEARANCE ON ALL TREES. SOME TREES. IT'S THEY'RE JUST TOO SMALL TO GO THAT HIGH. SO WE DO HAVE TO TOUCH THOSE UP IN BETWEEN. IT'S ALSO A LOT OF. REQUESTS THAT COME FROM DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF THE CITY. OUR PLOW DRIVERS WILL LET ME KNOW IF THEY KNOW THAT THEY'RE STARTING TO HIT BRANCHES. I'LL JOT IT DOWN.

WE'LL GO OUT AND GET THOSE TAKEN CARE OF. THE PERCENTAGES ARE JUST WHERE I ALLOCATED OUR TIME. NOW THAT'S PROJECTION. I DID LOOK AT OUR PREVIOUS DATA PRIOR TO MY ARRIVAL AT THE CITY.

IT WAS KIND OF VARIABLE. AND I ALSO CHANGED SOME OF THE CATEGORIES A LITTLE BIT. SO THIS IS KIND OF AN ADAPTATION FROM THERE. AND THEN WHERE I WANT TO SEE THE DEPARTMENT GO TREE REMOVAL ROUGHLY 15% OF OUR TIME. IT'S NOT THAT WE'RE DOING A TON OF REMOVALS, BUT REMOVALS DO TAKE SOME TIME. THEY CAN TAKE A DAY FOR A TREE. UNFORTUNATELY, WE DON'T REMOVE A LOT OF REALLY BIG TREES, BUT THERE ARE SOME THAT WE DO HAVE TO SPEND A DAY OR TWO ON SERVICE REQUESTS. ESSENTIALLY. THAT IS WHEN A RESIDENT CALLS IN, THEY WOULD JUST LIKE, YOU KNOW, DEAD BRANCHES REMOVED IN BETWEEN CYCLES, MORE CLEARANCE OVER THEIR LAWN, KIND OF ANYTHING. WE'VE RESCUED TWO KITES THIS YEAR FROM TREES. SO WE DO GET THOSE CALLS FROM KIDS,

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SOME OF THAT IS WHERE I'LL ALLOCATE ARBOR DAY. I DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC LINE ITEM FOR ARBOR DAY, BUT I HAVE TO TRACK THE TIME. SO TO ME, THAT'S A SPECIAL PROJECT. I KNOW WE'VE GOT UPCOMING PLANTING PROJECTS UP NEAR PUBLIC SERVICE AND PUBLIC SERVICE. THAT'S WHERE I'LL PUT THAT TIME. PLANT HEALTH CARE, 5%. A LOT OF THAT SOIL WORK. WE DO HAVE AN AIR SPADE, WHICH ALLOWS US TO KIND OF DIG INTO THE SOIL AND DO SOME STUFF. I'VE WORKED WITH TRAINING OUR GUYS ON THAT LAST YEAR. I'D LIKE TO EXPAND THAT MORE OVER TIME, BUT IN THE FIRST FIVE YEARS, MY BIGGEST LIFT IS THE CURRENT CYCLE. I'M GETTING THAT ESTABLISHED, PLANTING 0% OF OUR TIME. ESSENTIALLY, I CONTRACT ALL OF THAT OUT. BIGGEST REASON IS ONE, IT'S A LOGISTICAL NIGHTMARE TO DO PLANTING, BUT THE BIGGEST REASON IS IF WE PLANT THE TREES IN-HOUSE, WE GET NO WARRANTY ON THE TREES. SO WE'RE ON THE HOOK FOR EVERY REPLACEMENT. WHEREAS IF I CONTRACT IT, I GET A ONE YEAR WARRANTY, WHICH GIVES ME A LITTLE INSURANCE ON IT, BUT IT'S BETTER THAN NOTHING. OKAY, THAT WAS IT ON THE THAT WAS A QUICK OVERVIEW OF THAT. WE DO A LOT OF STUFF AND IF HE HAS ANY QUESTIONS, THE BOARD ON, I GUESS IT'S JUST ME THAT REALLY GETS. I LEARNED A LOT. THANK YOU. I AM CURIOUS THOUGH, YOUR 22,005 STREET TREES. WHAT.

WHAT'S YOUR BEST GUESS ON THE PERCENTAGE OF CITY CANOPY IN ALL IN CANOPY COVER? YEAH, NOT A CLUE. SO THE 22 YEAH. SO YOU SAID NOT A CLUE. SO THAT'S ONE THING. THE 22 500. I THINK THAT'S OUR BEST GUESSTIMATE. BUT WHAT WE HAVE ALSO BEEN DOING AND GROWING THROUGH THE YEARS IS GETTING A MORE SOLID GIS STAFF AS WELL. AND SO I KNOW THEY'VE BEEN WORKING HAND IN HAND WITH ANGE AND WILL HERE TO BUILD THAT DATABASE. IT SOUNDS A LITTLE CRAZY, BUT WE'VE BEEN GROWING SO FAST WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE. WE HAVEN'T HAD THE TIME TO REALLY WRITE DOWN AND KNOW THE TRUE QUANTITY OF STREET TREES WE HAVE IN THE COMMUNITY. WILL KNOWS ALL THE STREETS TO THAT POINT. IT'S OUR BEST GUESS RIGHT NOW. SO WE'VE NEVER, AS A CITY, ACTUALLY HAD A FORMAL TREE INVENTORY PERFORMED, RIGHT? THAT'S A BIG LIFT. SO IT'S WHEN I SAY IT'S KIND OF A PATCHWORK, IT'S SORT OF AS TIME'S PERMITTED FROM DIFFERENT FORESTRY STAFF OVER TIME. SO I HAVE TREE POINTS. AND THAT IS ALSO THANKS TO RYAN KELLY, WHO'S OUR WORKS GIS. MY GOAL NEXT YEAR IS TO TRY TO GET A BUDGET LINE, WHICH I MAY NOT GET TO CONTRACT OUT TO HAVE A FULL TREE INVENTORY DONE. THAT'S KIND OF THE STARTING POINT TO GET AN ACTUAL ACCURATE DATA OF WHAT WE HAVE, WHAT IT IS, AND WHAT SIZE IT IS. SO SOME OF OUR TREES, I KNOW THERE'S A TREE THERE. IT MIGHT LIST THAT IT'S A TWO INCH SUGAR MAPLE. IF THAT WAS TRACKS. YOU KNOW, TEN YEARS AGO, THAT'S MAYBE A TEN INCH SUGAR MAPLE TODAY. THE PROBLEM IS JUST TIME FOR THAT MANY TREES. IT IS A FULL TIME JOB TO KEEP UP WITH THE INVENTORY. WE'LL TRACK WHAT WE REMOVE, WHAT WE'VE HAD INSTALLED UP. BUT THAT'S KIND OF THE FIRST LIFT THERE IS GETTING SOMEBODY IN TO ACTUALLY GO THROUGH PLOT. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM HAVE UPDATED CONDITION. WE'LL HAVE THE LOCATION. SPECIES ISN'T ALWAYS CORRECT. SOME OF THEM DO JUST SAY TREE. WE DON'T HAVE IT LISTED WHAT IT IS AND DIAMETERS. I THINK I NEED THAT BEFORE I CAN REALLY GO OTHER THAN I MEAN, YOU COULD EARTH IMAGE AND THEN CALCULATE PERCENT CANOPY VERSUS NON CANOPY, BUT WELL, THAT IS THE POINT OF HOW YOU START INTO THIS WAS HOPEFULLY WE'VE DISCUSSED A COUPLE TIMES THE BOARD SUPPORTING. TWO COUNCIL SUPPORTING THAT FINANCIALLY. WE DON'T OBVIOUSLY HAVE A FUNDING BOARD, BUT YOU KNOW, IF YOU SAID I NEED TO HAVE $1 MILLION, I YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT THAT HIGH OR, YOU KNOW, YOU NEED MORE STAFF OR YOU NEED TEMPORARY STAFF THAT YOU CAN HIRE INTERNS, WHATEVER TO DO. SO IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WE'RE NOT ABLE TO NECESSARILY SAY THAT'S HAPPENING. WE CERTAINLY HAVE TO, RYAN TO BE ABLE TO GO AND DO THAT REQUEST. BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO BE SUPPORTIVE AS A BOARD FROM THE COMMUNITY, SAYING THIS IS IMPORTANT TO COUNCIL SO THAT, YOU KNOW, ANY SORT OF IMPACT THEY HAVE ON IT WHEN WORKING WITH FINANCE TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. SO TALK TO STEPHEN A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS OFFLINE. AND YOU KNOW, I JUST I DON'T WANT YOU TO BE THINKING, WHAT DO I HAVE TO DO BASED UPON WHAT MY BUDGET IS TODAY? IT'S LIKE, WHAT DO YOU NEED TO DO? LIKE WHAT YOUR, WHAT YOUR DREAM AND, AND LET'S WORK BACK FROM THERE KIND OF THING AS WE CAN WORK TOGETHER. A COUPLE OTHER QUICK QUESTIONS WAS ONE OF MY BIGGEST PET PEEVES IS THE

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EVERY SINGLE STREET TREE THAT'S GETTING INSTALLED SINCE HE STARTED MOVING FORWARD. SO THAT'S ALSO A BIG THAT COULD COME IN BIG LEAPS AND BOUNDS WHEN YOU GET TO LIKE PLANTING SEASON IN THE SPRING AND FALL. SO THAT'S SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE'RE KEEPING HIM BUSY WITH, RIGHT? GREAT. DOES THE HOA MANAGE ADDITIONAL TREES ABOVE THE 22,000? THE HOA IS IN THE HOA IN THE COMMUNITY. MANAGE ADDITIONAL STREET TREES THAT THE CITY'S NOT MANAGING. SO YES, SO SPECIFICALLY THE COUNTRY CLUB COMMUNITY HAS ALWAYS HAD A PRIVATE CONTRACT WHERE THEY DID MANAGE TREES WITHIN THE COUNTRY CLUB. IT WASN'T MEANT TO ALWAYS BE JUST THE CITY STREET TREES.

THEY ALSO HAVE SOME COMMON GROUND TREES AS WELL AS PARK TREES. A LOT OF THOSE PARK TREES HAVE NOW BEEN ABSORBED BY THE CITY. BUT YEAH, THOSE ARE JOINTLY MANAGED. IT'S THE SAME THING THOUGH. SO IN THE SPRING, I GUESS LATE WINTER, THAT'S ME COORDINATING WITH OHIO EQUITY, SPECIFICALLY BOBBY GARRETT. SO I KNOW WHAT HE'S DOING AND HE KNOWS WHAT I'M DOING. AND THEN WE MUTUALLY USE A SIMILAR CONTRACTOR. SO WE KIND OF ALSO BALANCE THAT OUT BECAUSE NOW THAT I'VE GOT A PRUNING CYCLE, THAT'S A WHOLE SEPARATE CONVERSATION BECAUSE NOW I DO HAVE MORE OF AN INTEREST IN WHAT YEAR THESE TREES ARE GETTING DONE. DOESN'T MEAN I HAVE TO SAY WHAT TREES THEY DO, AS MUCH AS I DO WANT TO KNOW, SO I CAN START TO KIND OF MASSAGE THAT PRUNING CYCLE AND MAKE SURE THAT I'M NOT, YOU KNOW, PRUNING NEXT YEAR TREE THAT WAS DONE THIS YEAR UNLESS IT NEEDS IT. BUT TO THAT END, AND THEN THERE'S ADDITIONAL TREES THAT ARE KIND OF ONE OFFS. SO LIKE EACH HOA, NOT ALL HOA, BUT THERE ARE A FEW THAT HAVE IT. SO LIKE LAMBTON PARK. THE I'M GOING TO CALL IT NORTH SIDE OF LAMBTON PARK. THERE'S A

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AND HERE'S WHAT THE END RESULT NEEDS TO BE. AS OPPOSED TO YOU'RE DOING SOMETHING, YOU'RE DOING SOMETHING A P IS DOING RIGHT OF WAY, CLEANING AND DOING. MOST OF THE TIME, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SO THERE'S, THERE'S ALL THOSE THINGS THAT I THINK FROM A COMMUNITY STANDPOINT, WHEN, WHEN JOE RESIDENT COMES AND IS ASKING WHAT'S GOING ON WITH TREES, THEY'RE ASSUMING THAT IT'S ALL CITY, RIGHT. AND WE KNOW IT'S NOT. BUT BEING ABLE TO HAVE THE CITY HAVE THAT SORT OF SINGULAR VOICE TO SAY, THIS IS WHAT IN THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY SHOULD BE HAPPENING, AS OPPOSED TO A PIECE DOING THIS AND THIS IS DOING THIS. THE SCHOOL IS DOING THIS KIND OF THING, WHICH WE'RE WORKING ON. YEAH. I SHOULD HAVE MENTIONED WE DID HAVE A MEETING MAYBE A MONTH AGO WHERE WE DID SIT DOWN, PARTICULARLY BECAUSE EQUITIES DOES THE MOST WITH THOSE TREES. I DON'T THINK I DON'T KNOW OF ANY OTHER HOA THAT INVESTS IN IT. BUT REPRESENTATIVES FROM NACO EQUITIES AND PUBLIC SERVICE DID MEET TO PUSH SOME OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS, BECAUSE WE ALL AGREE WE'D RATHER BE A LITTLE MORE BLACK AND WHITE, AND WE KNOW WHO DOES WHAT. I THINK YOU'RE ALWAYS GOING TO HAVE SOME OF THOSE AREAS, PARTICULARLY LIKE THE LEISURE TRAIL ALONG THE GOLF COURSE, WHERE OUR RIGHT OF WAY IT WEAVES IN AND OUT. WE'RE ALWAYS GOING TO HAVE SOME OF THAT, BUT I THINK ALL THREE OF THOSE ENTITIES HAVE THE SAME GENERAL VISION OF WANTING TO DEFINE THAT A LITTLE BIT BETTER. AND PLUS, IT'S BETTER FOR THE RESIDENTS WHERE THEY'RE NOT CALLING ME, SAY, WELL, IT'S THE ISLAND TREE. I GO, OH, WELL, THE ISLAND TREE IS TECHNICALLY THIS PERSON AND THE RESIDENT GETS I MEAN, I TRY TO CALL BOBBY MYSELF SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT. BUT IT DOES COME UP.

OKAY, I'LL SHUT UP AND LET YOU GET TO THE NEXT THING. ANYTHING ELSE ON THE TREE MAINTENANCE? NO ONE ELSE CARES. THAT'S NOT TRUE. OKAY. TREE DONATION, WHICH YOU GUYS MIGHT KNOW A LITTLE BIT ABOUT. SO ANOTHER MEMBER OF THE BUSINESS PARK OUT EAST. THEY REACHED OUT TO THE CITY INTERESTED IN MAKING A. INITIALLY, IT WAS A TREE DONATION IN TERMS OF LIKE VOLUME, JUST A NUMBER OF TREES.. SO AFTER A FEW DISCUSSIONS, THE CITY DID ASK THAT IT WOULD PROBABLY BE EASIER, NOT NECESSARILY EASIER, BUT MORE BENEFICIAL TO HAVE A FINANCIAL DONATION RATHER THAN A TREE QUANTITY. BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY IF THEY JUST GIVE US, YOU KNOW, HOWEVER MANY TREES NOW WE HAVE TO INSTALL THEM AND ALL THIS GOOD STUFF. THERE'S A LOT OF BACK END COSTS. AND INITIALLY THOSE WERE JUST SEEDLINGS THEY WERE GOING TO DO. SO AS WE'VE KIND OF PROGRESSED THROUGH THIS IN CONVERSATIONS, WHICH WE'RE STILL WORKING ON, THE FINAL AGREEMENTS TO THAT. MY PORTION OF IT IS I CAME WITH A FIVE YEAR PLAN. BASICALLY, HOW ARE WE GOING TO UTILIZE THESE DOLLARS SO THAT WE CAN SHOW THEM WHERE THE MONEY IS GOING, WHAT WE'RE DOING, WHAT WE'RE PLANNING, ALL WHILE ACKNOWLEDGING IT'S KIND OF A, YOU KNOW, A ROADMAP OF SORTS. WE CAN CHANGE IT AS OPPORTUNITIES COME UP, THINGS CHANGE. SO THIS YEAR IT'S APPROXIMATELY $34,000 IS WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING TO DONATE TO THE CITY. OH I'M SORRY. SORRY. SO A LOT OF THAT IS GOING TO BE DONE IN THE FALL JUST BECAUSE OF THE TIMING OF WHERE THAT CONTRACT IS AND GETTING ALL THOSE LITTLE PIECES IN PLACE FOR THIS DONATION, WHICH I THINK IS THE FIRST ONE WE'VE EVER HAD. IT'S JUST TIMING WISE, IT'S GOING TO FALL IN THE FALL FEW AREAS WE'RE WORKING ON. SO AS OF TODAY, THERE WERE INVASIVE SPECIES BEING REMOVED FROM TRIPLET SQUARE, I THINK IS WHERE MY CONTRACTOR STARTED TODAY. AND THEN CUNNINGHAM DRIVE IS A CITY OWNED PARCEL BACK IN THERE. BOTH ARE UP AROUND LYNX AREA. THOSE ARE THE FIRST TWO. THEY'RE RELATIVELY SMALL ACREAGE BUT JUST NEED CLEANED OUT. SO WE'RE GONNA REPLANT IN THERE WITH SEEDLINGS. THE BIGGEST ONE FOR THIS YEAR IS GOING TO BE THE 62161 INTERCHANGE, WHICH WE DO MANAGE. SO KIND OF YOUR POINT OF LIKE ODOT AND ALONG THE HIGHWAY, WE DON'T TAKE CARE OF THE TREES OUT ALONG THE ACTUAL HIGHWAY, BUT WE DO TAKE CARE OF THIS AREA. SO THIS IS 62 AND THIS IS, DOWN HERE, PUBLIC SERVICES UP HERE. SO THERE'S THESE BIG FLAT AREAS ON THE BOTTOM WHICH REALLY DON'T HAVE MUCH PLANTING

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AND THEN I HAVE A CONTRACTOR WHO'S GOING TO COME IN ON THESE STEEP SLOPES THAT RUN UP ALONG THE HIGHWAY. IT IS PREDOMINANTLY FLOWERING PEAR. THERE'S HONEYSUCKLE MIXED IN.

I'M SURE THERE'S SOME UP THERE, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE ALL THIS CLEARED OUT. I'M GOING TO KEEP ANYTHING THAT IS IN THERE. THAT IS A NATIVE TREE. I KNOW THERE'S SOME BIG COTTONWOODS PEOPLE LOVE AND PEOPLE HATE THEM. AND A VARIETY OF OTHER NATIVES MIXED INTO THERE. BUT PREDOMINANTLY IT IS FLOWERING PEAR, WHICH YOU'LL SEE WHEN IT BLOOMS. IT'S A PRETTY WHITE, BUT ULTIMATELY KIND OF DEVASTATING. SO ONCE THIS IS ALL CLEARED, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME MAINTENANCE GOING FORWARD BECAUSE ONCE YOU CLEAR IT, IF YOU DO NOTHING, IT'S JUST GOING TO GROW BACK AS PEAR. SO IT'LL GO IN AS A A MAINTENANCE COMPONENT. SO WE WILL CONTINUOUSLY HAVE THAT SPOT TREATED. SO NOT JUST BROADCAST WITH HERBICIDE, BUT SPECIFICALLY WALK THROUGH IT AND SPRAY WHAT'S COMING BACK AND ALSO INSTALL 1875 SEEDLINGS ACROSS THERE. I SHOULD HAVE WROTE IT DOWN. I FORGET THE ACTUAL ACREAGE OF ALL THIS COMBINED, BUT WE'RE GOING TO DO ALL OF THAT. AND THEN ROUGHLY IN THESE FLATS, 24 TOTAL TREES, WHICH WILL BE TWO INCH CALIPERS, WILL ACTUALLY TO THE POINT EARLIER, THEY WILL BE LARGER TREES WITH A LITTLE BIT HIGHER SURVIVAL RATE. AND HOPEFULLY IT'S GOING TO LOOK REALLY PRETTY. HOPEFULLY TWO INCH CALIPER TREE. WHAT'S THE AVERAGE HEIGHT OF THAT TREE.

HEIGHT TWO INCH 12 TO 15FT SOMEWHERE IN THERE. AND THAT ALSO THOSE ARE ALREADY I'M JUST TRYING TO REMEMBER GOING BY THERE. WE'VE ALREADY PLANTED TREES ALONG THE BIKE PATH THERE, CORRECT? CORRECT. YEAH. MOSTLY HONEYLOCUST. BUT YEAH, THERE'S A MIXTURE ALL THROUGH THERE. WE JUST HAVE THE STAKES OFF. IS THERE A SPECIES THAT YOU'RE TARGETING FOR THESE SAPLINGS FOR PLANTING? YEAH, I HAVEN'T GOT THAT FAR TO LOOK AT THEM. IT'LL LARGELY BE JUST A MIXTURE OF DIFFERENT NATIVE. IT PROBABLY WON'T EXCLUSIVELY BE TREES, BUT A MIXTURE OF NATIVE TREES AND SHRUBS. THIS IS THIS IS GREAT. I THINK CASEY WERE KEY IN MAKING THAT HAPPEN. AND YOU BROUGHT IT UP A NUMBER OF TIMES THAT THIS IS A GREAT SOLVE FOR THIS. I THINK IN TERMS OF THAT. SO THAT'S PRETTY MUCH THIS YEAR. THEN WE HAD A CONVERSATION WITH THEM. DAVID, MYSELF, I BELIEVE CHELSEA WAS WITH US NOT TOO LONG AGO, TALKING ALREADY ABOUT 2027. SO THE PROJECTED DONATION RIGHT NOW IS 38000 OF THE CITY. THERE'S A BIG ASTERISK THERE THOUGH. SO THE PROJECTED PLAN ON THAT ONE IS GOING TO BE 25 TWO INCH TREES INSTALLED AT ROSE RUN TWO, WHICH I BELIEVE IS A FALL COMPLETION OF NEXT YEAR. UTILIZING SOME OF IT FOR THE SEEDLINGS FOR ARBOR DAY. NOT A SUPER HIGH SURVIVAL RATE. THE BIGGER BENEFIT THERE, I BELIEVE, IN MY OPINION, IS ONE, IT'S KIND OF MEANINGFUL FOR THE KIDS AND HOPEFULLY THEY GROW UP TO BE LIKE, YOU FIND PEOPLE HERE TODAY AND CARE ABOUT TREES. SO IT'S KIND OF A REALLY LONG TERM ROI THERE. THERE ARE SOME SECTIONS ALONG ROCKY FORK CREEK, WHICH IS ON THE WEST SIDE OF TAYLOR FARM. SO THIS IS TAYLOR FARM. DOWN HERE IS THE PARKING AREA AND THE RESTROOMS AND THE COMMUNITY GARDEN. UP ALONG THIS CORRIDOR IS ROCKY CREEK. AND THERE'S, I THINK THREE BIG SECTIONS. SO THAT'LL BE TAKING INVASIVES OUT ALONG THAT CREEK. GOT SWATH THROUGH HERE WILL BE 1300 AND SOME CHANGE SEEDLINGS. AND I THINK NEXT YEAR IS THIS IS TRIPLET SQUARE IS WHEN IT GETS ITS SEEDLINGS. CUNNINGHAM IS THIS YEAR. ADDITIONALLY, THOUGH IT'S ASKED ABOUT COVERING OUR 2027 INVASIVE SPECIES REMOVAL COSTS. THAT'S ONE OF MY BUDGET LINES IS REMOVING INVASIVES. SO THEY WOULD BE INTERESTED, PARTICULARLY IN THE AREAS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE PUTTING IN NEW TREES TO COVER THE COST OF REMOVING THE EXISTING INVASIVES, AS WELL AS COVERING THE MAINTENANCE COSTS OF THE SEEDLINGS GOING IN THE GROUND, WHICH THAT WILL BUMP YOUR SURVIVORSHIP UP, JUST HAVING A HIGHER MAINTENANCE COST OR A MAINTENANCE LEVEL ON THOSE. AND THEN THEY ALSO ASK FOR JUST A 5% CONTINGENCY, JUST KIND OF ACKNOWLEDGMENT THAT PRICES GO UP AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO THE FINAL FOR NEXT YEAR IS TO BE DETERMINED. I'M GOING TO VENTURE IT. I MEAN, I WOULD GUESS IT'S GOING TO BE I'M NOT GOING TO VENTURE THAT, BUT IT'LL BE IT'LL BE SUBSTANTIAL AND A REALLY GOOD PARTNERSHIP, I THINK. THIS IS TERRIFIC. SO MUCH BETTER THAN JUST A BUNCH OF SEEDLINGS. AND THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE THOUGHT WE FIGURED. I MEAN, IF YOU GIVE US, YOU KNOW, HOW MANY SEEDLINGS IT WAS WITH THE MORTALITY RATE, WE'RE PROBABLY NOT EVEN BREAKING. EVEN WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE LABOR

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THERE'S BEEN SEATING THAT'S HAPPENED ALONG THOSE ALONG THE PATH THAT FOLLOWS THAT DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU'RE AT. BUT YEAH, YEAH, YEAH, YEAH, YEAH, VARIES ALONG THE LENGTH, BUT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT IT BECAUSE WE HAD A RESIDENT THAT WANTED THERE'S SOME STUMPS IN THAT SWATH AND WE LOOKED AT IT. IT IS PART OF THE DEDICATED WETLAND. SO WE WEREN'T THAT'S WHY THE STUMPS ARE STILL THERE. AND IT WAS NEVER TO MY KNOWLEDGE, I'D BE CURIOUS, DAVE, TO FIND OUT IF WE CAN IN FACT, DO WHAT WE'VE JUST PAID MONEY TO DO. TAYLOR FARM IS ODD.

THERE ARE AREAS YOU CAN DO KIND OF WHATEVER YOU WANT. THERE'S A LOT OF AREAS YOU REALLY CANNOT KNOW. I KNOW, AND THAT ENTIRE ROADWAY IS ALONG ON THE ROAD SIDE ALL THE WAY. THAT ENTIRE STRETCH IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE DONE WITH THIS POCKET PRAIRIE. SO. ALL RIGHT. OR IS IT. I DON'T THINK IT'S JUST THE FRONT. IT'S JUST LIKE THE PARK. YEAH. YEAH. THE FRONT MAY NOT BE YOU CAN KIND OF MAKE IT OUT. IF YOU DRIVE IT, YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE WETLAND GRASS IS. WAIT. YEAH.

WAIT. YOU CAN'T KNOW IF IT'S A DITCH. IT'S WATER. YEAH. RIGHT. BUT THE SECTION THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT. YOU CAN'T PUT TREES IN. I DON'T KNOW, THAT'S I THINK I THINK WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOMEWHERE MAYBE. YEAH. YOU GUYS MIGHT BE TALKING FURTHER WEST THIS ENTIRE. WELL, IT STARTS HERE. AND LIKE RIGHT THERE AT THE ENTRANCE, YOU MIGHT BE ALRIGHT. AND THEN GOES AND THEN GOES THE ENTIRE STRETCH TO THE ENTRANCE AT GREENSWARD. ALL RIGHT. I THINK SOMEWHERE AROUND HERE IS WHERE YOU'LL SEE. I MEAN, THEY DID SOME WORK IN HERE. I THINK YOU'RE FINE UP IN HERE. AND THERE IS A MAP SOMEWHERE, SO WE CAN LOOK INTO THAT AS YOU GO BACK THIS WAY TO THE EAST, YOU'LL SEE WHERE IT SWITCHES OVER TO, LIKE THE SAME MARSH GRASS AS YOU SEE IN TAYLOR FARM. RIGHT. AND SOMEWHERE IN THERE, I THINK IS THE LINE. I DON'T THINK IT'S ACROSS THE BOARD THROUGH THERE, BUT IT IT VARIES.

WHEN WE LOOKED AT IT, AM I THE ONLY ONE CONCERNED? DOESN'T THIS SEEM SKETCHY? NO. SORRY.

NOT SKETCHY FOR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. SKETCHY FOR WHAT WE'VE ALREADY PUT IN PLAY. I FEEL LIKE THAT'S BECAUSE THERE WAS THAT MARSHY AREA THAT WE HAD POINTED OUT SAYING, HEY, THIS IS MARSHY AREA. LIKE WE'VE GONE THROUGH AND DONE KILL OF SPRAYING ALL THAT AREA AND MUCH OF IT DILIGENTLY REMOVING THE INVASIVES, CAPTURING THE SEEDS BY HAND, RIGHT ONE AT A TIME AND BAGGING THEM UP. BUT I FEEL LIKE THAT WAS FURTHER EAST OF WHAT'S ON THAT MAP, THAT PICTURE THERE WHERE THAT IT IS. BUT THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. BECAUSE I GUESS WHAT I WHAT I HEAR WE'RE SAYING IS THAT THAT IMMEDIATE SECTION WHERE THE BEND HAPPENS WHEN YOU'RE COMING OFF THE PARKING LOT AND GOING OUT, THAT IS AN OPEN AREA BECAUSE THERE'S ACTUALLY SOMEONE PLANTED TREES LIKE A PSEUDO GROVE THERE, BUT OUR WHOLE AREA RUNS EAST OF THAT TO THE GREENSWARD PATHWAY AND PAST THAT A LITTLE BIT. SO IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE IN THE EXACT SAME AREA TO ME. YEAH, I WOULD NOT HAVE I WOULDN'T HAVE THOUGHT SO EITHER. BUT I MEAN, I'M SURPRISED THAT THE FIRST TIME WE'RE HEARING ABOUT IT. SO TO MY KNOWLEDGE FROM THE MAP I'VE SEEN, THAT'S WHAT IT IS. SO I MEAN, I COULD BE WRONG, BUT BECAUSE I'M JUST I'M JUST SAYING FROM WALKING THAT PATH, THERE SEEMS TO BE ANYWHERE FROM 15 TO 25FT AS IT KIND OF DOES A BIT OF A WINDING TO THE HORSE FENCE THAT INSIDE NO, NO, INSIDE THE PARK IS WHERE I WAS STATING ORIGINALLY BECAUSE NEXT TO THE PATH IS, OH, SO YOU'RE INSIDE THE PARK? INSIDE THE PARK. OKAY. ONCE. YEAH, ONCE BETWEEN THE ROAD AND THE FENCE. THAT ONE'S ROUGH. ONCE YOU'RE BEYOND THAT, I THINK YOU'RE OKAY TO A CERTAIN POINT. RIGHT? OKAY. I WAS THINKING THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. OKAY. THERE ARE, LIKE, THINGS THAT HAVE SPROUTED UP ALONG THE WAY.

THERE'S, YOU KNOW, A FEW MAPLES HERE AND THERE. THERE'S SOME OAKS, BUT IT'S LIKE HAVING ACTUAL DELIBERATE TWO INCH CALIPER TREES PLANTED ALONG THAT ACTUALLY HAVE A SHADE SCREEN ALONG THAT STRETCH OF THE PARK IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK WOULD BE A HUGE BENEFIT.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S SOME OF THAT 25 THAT COULD GOTTEN COULD BE USED FOR THAT, AS OPPOSED TO ASKING FOR MORE. CERTAINLY WE CAN LOOK BESIDES THAT. BUT STEVE AND DAVE, IF IT IS, WE'RE TRULY TALKING TO THE FENCE, TO THE ROAD, AND THERE'S CONCERNS ABOUT WETLAND STUFF.

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AND WE CAN CHECK AND CONFIRM. WE CAN SEND THEM TO THE GROUP TO LIKE WHERE THOSE CONSERVATION EASEMENT BOUNDARIES ARE, JUST TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE OF THOSE. AND I THINK WE'RE PROBABLY DUE FOR AN UPDATE FROM THE MAD SCIENTISTS ANYWAY. YES.

SEE HOW WE'RE DOING. IT'S ON THE IT'S ON THE JUNE. YEAH, YEAH. THAT'S RIGHT. THERE YOU GO. YEAH. BECAUSE I HATE THAT QUESTION. I'M LIKE REYNOLDS DOESN'T SEEM LIKE ANYTHING HAS HAPPENED SO FAR. YEAH. ABOUT $11,000. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS. OKAY.

THANK YOU WILL. APPRECIATE IT. MY PLEASURE. YOU FACE MORE QUESTIONS THAN THAN JIM. OH.

ALL FOR ME. I THINK SHE GOT ONE. ALL RIGHT. NOW, BEFORE WE GET TO THE SPRING WASTE COLLECTION.

I DID WANT TO MENTION, AS YOU ALL KNOW, THE COMMUNITY BACKYARDS PROGRAM, WHERE RESIDENTS CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT AND GET $50 OFF EITHER A NATIVE TREE TO PLANT OR A RAIN BARREL OR A. WHAT'S THE OTHER ONE? A COMPOST BIN OR ACTUALLY A RAIN GARDEN. THEY CAN GET UP TO, I THINK. 250. WE ALSO HAVE A TRADE IN PROGRAM, SO IF YOU HAVE A CALLERY PEAR ON YOUR PROPERTY, YOU CAN CONTACT US, CONTACT SODA WATER WE CONTRACT WITH TO SEE IF YOU'RE ELIGIBLE TO GET A REBATE ON REMOVING THAT AND PLANTING A NEW ONE. SO AND WHILE WILL WAS GIVING HIS PRESENTATION, I WAS WATCHING THE TREES BEHIND YOU ALL SWAY BACK AND FORTH IN EXCITEMENT.

WITH ALL THE ATTENTION TO TREES. BUT NOW WE'RE MOVING ON TO WASTE AND WASTE COLLECTION EVENT, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE CHART HERE. THANK YOU ALL FOR ATTENDING AND HELPING OUT. IT WAS MY FIRST ONE HERE IN NEW ALBANY AND I HAD A FUN TIME. IT SOUNDS WEIRD TO SAY, BUT EVERYBODY, IT WAS JUST SUCH A GOOD VIBE. WE ACTUALLY HANDED OUT TREES. SO BELIEVE IT OR NOT, 50 PERSIMMON TREES. THEY ARE THE LITTLE WHIPS. BUT STILL, PEOPLE WERE EXCITED TO GET THAT.

SO YOU CAN SEE WHO OUR PARTNERS ARE AND YOU ALL ARE UP THERE. AND THEN WHAT WAS COLLECTED. SO WE COLLECTED 7,380 POUNDS OF PAPER, 9,593 POUNDS OF E-WASTE, AND 14,594 POUNDS OF HOUSEHOLD HAZARDOUS WASTE. SO YOUR QUESTION MIGHT BE, WELL, HOW DOES THAT COMPARE TO YEARS PAST? AND WE HAVE YOU COVERED. SO NOW LAST YEAR WAS A LITTLE BIT OF AN ANOMALY. I KNEW I WAS GOING TO TRIP OVER THAT WORD. SO LOOKING BACK TO 2023, 2024, YOU COULD SEE ON THE E-WASTE THAT WE'RE RIGHT ABOUT WHERE WE SHOULD BE. I GUESS YOU COULD SAY FOR THE HOUSEHOLD HAZARDOUS WASTE. IT DID DIP KIND OF A LOT. AND SO I'M NOT QUITE SURE WHY YOU'RE STILL KIND OF TALKING ABOUT THEORIES ABOUT THAT. THE PAPER INCREASED INCREASED FROM LAST YEAR, WHICH WAS PRETTY EXCITING TO SEE. AND THE AMOUNT OF VEHICLES THAT WENT THROUGH WERE ABOUT THE SAME AS THEY WERE IN 2024. SO. YOU CAN KIND OF SEE WHERE THINGS ARE BEFORE I JUMP OFF OF THIS SLIDE. THE NEXT SLIDE GOES INTO THE SURVEY THAT WE SENT SOME OF THE VOLUNTEERS. BUT BEFORE WE GET TO THAT SURVEY, DID YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THE NUMBERS? AWESOME. I THINK WITH H.H. I MEAN, HOPEFULLY PEOPLE KIND OF CAUGHT UP AND YOU KNOW, YOU ONLY HAVE SO MUCH PAINT STORED IN YOUR BASEMENT AND YOU FIND, YOU KNOW, AND I THINK MAYBE THAT'S THAT NUMBER FINALLY DECREASING WHERE WE'VE GOTTEN KIND OF THROUGH THAT. AND PEOPLE HAVE KIND OF BEEN MULTIPLE TIMES. AND SO, AND FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD, WE HAD LESS CONSTRUCTION COMPANIES COMING THROUGH THIS YEAR AND DUMPING THEIR YEARS WORTH OF LEFTOVERS, RIGHT? SO THAT MAKES A DIFFERENCE. ANYBODY THAT MIGHT GUYS WOULD PAINT, PAINT CREWS OR SOMETHING TYPE OF THING. BUT IT WAS INTERESTING THOUGH, BECAUSE BEING WE WERE AT THAT FRONT LINE AND ANY NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO WERE LIKE, OH, I, MY WIFE TOLD ME TO BRING THIS AND LIKE, OH, DO YOU HAVE ANY HOUSEHOLD? WELL, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? I'M LIKE, IT'S PAINT, WHATEVER. HE'S LIKE, OH HECK, I HAD NO IDEA. SO YEAH, NO MATTER HOW MANY. YEAH, WE DID HAVE SOME RETURN PEOPLE THAT CAME.

SO I ACTUALLY, I'M NOT SURE IF THAT NUMBER IS RIGHT. IT WAS JUST A CLICK, CLICK, CLICK BASED UPON PEOPLE PASSING THROUGH. BUT YEAH, SO 400 LOADS WERE, BUT I, I, I THINK IT GOES BACK TO, AND I KNOW WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT THIS IN A COUPLE OF MONTHS, BUT JUST THE, YOU KNOW, COMMUNICATION ON WHAT IT CAN BE AND WHATEVER ELSE. AND ALWAYS THE FIRST ONE TO TELL YOU THAT YOU CAN SEND OUT A THOUSAND THINGS, YOU'LL STILL GET SOMEONE ASKING YOU QUESTIONS.

SO I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT WE DO A WHOLE LOT MORE, BUT, YOU KNOW, JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT WITH THE COMMSRE EXPLAINI. YEAH, THAT'S A GREAT FEEDBACK TOO, AND GREAT PERSPECTIVE BECAUSE YEAH, THIS YEAR WE DID, I THINK, PRETTY SUBSTANTIALLY PULL BACK THE ONLINE MEDIA. SO

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AND THEN THE OTHER ONE WAS I WENT TO EITHER PAPER OR ELECTRONICS. I JUST CLICK ONE.

NOW THAT WE HAVE DEFINITIVE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT WENT THROUGH THE HOUSEHOLD HAZARDOUS WASTE, THAT NUMBER, I THINK, IS GOING TO BE MORE IMPORTANT GOING FORWARD BECAUSE WE THEN CAN FIGURE OUT THE POUNDS PER VISITOR, AND THEN WE CAN ALSO LOOK AT WHAT THE COST IS PER VISITOR WHEN WE GET THE NUMBERS, BECAUSE WE'RE TRACKING THAT SEPARATELY FROM EVERYTHING ELSE.

SO I THINK IN THE FALL EVENT, WE CONTINUE TO TRACK HOUSEHOLD HAZARDOUS WASTE AND THEN EVERYTHING ELSE IN COMBINE THEM TOGETHER, YOU GET THAT 400 AND THEN YOU CAN SEE IF THERE'S TRENDS, THEN YOU COULD SEE, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S MORE PER VISIT, YOU KNOW, AND THEN ALSO LOOK AT THE COST OF IT SO THAT WE DID EXPAND IT. THEN YOU CAN KIND OF DO A BETTER JOB PROJECTING, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE EXPENSES WERE IF WE DID MORE ADVERTISING IN THE FUTURE. THE OTHER THING I DID IS I WROTE DOWN EVERY HOUR WHAT THE COUNT WAS. AND I THINK NEXT YEAR, IF THIS FALL, IF I DO IT AGAIN OR SOMETHING, I WOULD DO IT EVERY HALF HOUR. IT GIVES IT A LITTLE BIT BETTER DATA AND WHERE THE PEAKS ARE. AND IT JUST GIVES US A BETTER SENSE OF HOW TO PLAN FOR VOLUNTEER USE OR, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, TRAFFIC CONTROL AND THINGS LIKE THAT. YEAH, THOSE ARE ALL GREAT POINTS. AND I THINK, YEAH, JUST I DIDN'T LOOK BACK AT THE DATA. BUT YEAH, WE LOOKED AT IT ONCE, BUT I THINK AS I RECALL, I THINK THAT FIRST HOUR WE REALLY SORT OF PEAKED AND SEEMED LIKE IT KIND OF LEVELED OFF AFTER THAT. YEAH. THAT'S TRUE. YEAH. SO WE'LL SAY EVERYONE WAS VERY HAPPY THAT I TOOK THEIR PAPER. YES. I THINK HOWARD LIFTED WHAT WAS IT, 7,000 POUNDS OF PAPER? YEAH. NO, PROBABLY 3500. YEAH. RIGHT THERE. PEOPLE WERE HAPPY. ALL RIGHT. SO THANK YOU FOR THE COMP DATA. THAT'S ACTUALLY REALLY, REALLY HELPFUL. SO IN TERMS OF THE FEEDBACK, SO WE ASKED I THINK THREE QUESTIONS. DID THE LAYOUT OF THE EVENT HELP WITH TRAFFIC FLOW OR WOULD A DIFFERENT LAYOUT BE MORE FUNCTIONAL? PRETTY MUCH. WE GOT THAT. THE LAYOUT WAS WAS GOOD AND THE FLOW WAS GOOD. THERE WAS LIKE A CONE WAS SIGNED WHERE PEOPLE PULL ALL THE WAY UP TO THE PAPER SHREDDING. I WOULD THINK THAT ONE THING IS THE PAPER SHREDDER NEEDS TO MOVE DOWN A LITTLE BIT FURTHER SO THEY DON'T GET THE TRAFFIC BOTTLENECK. THAT GATE. YEAH.

AND THERE WAS THERE WERE SOME CARS PARKED THAT WE DIDN'T THINK WERE GOING TO BE PARKED THERE. AND KIND OF THEY KIND OF GOT IN THE WAY A LITTLE BIT. SO WE HAD TO ADJUST. BUT THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A BOTTLENECK AT START. BUT YEAH, YOU MOVE IT DOWN, BUT THEN YOU PUT YOUR HEADBAND ON, YOU GOT TO WORK AND YOU, YOU GOT CAUGHT UP. SO YEAH, THE OTHER QUESTION IS IN THE AREA WHERE YOU VOLUNTEER TO WORK, WERE THERE ANY ISSUES OR DID IT RUN SMOOTHLY? FEW PEOPLE WERE ANNOYED. WE DIDN'T TAKE THE PLASTIC BAGS OR BOXES AT THE PAPER SHREDDING. SO THAT WAS FEEDBACK. SOME OF OUR VOLUNTEERS GOT. MAYBE A SIGN THAT LETS THEM KNOW THAT A LOT OF FOLKS ARE JUST GENERALLY APPRECIATIVE OF THIS EVENT, AND ALSO JUST OUR STAFF AND VOLUNTEERS. A FEW PEOPLE MISSED THE TURN ON WALNUT, AND SO MAYBE SOME BETTER SIGNAGE, BUT THAT'S WHAT WE GOT FOR THAT QUESTION. AND THEN DO YOU HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS FOR FUTURE EVENTS IN TERMS OF TIME, LAYOUT, NUMBER OF STAFF OR THE LIKE? AND THIS IS WHERE IT'S A LITTLE BIT WHERE HITTING THAT SWEET SPOT THAT WE TALKED ABOUT A LITTLE BIT EARLIER, RIGHT? SO, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE BIT MORE ADVERTISING, NOT TOO MUCH. SO WE HIT, YOU KNOW, GET TOO MANY, BUT WE RECEIVED A LOT OF COMPLIMENTS FROM THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE WHO WENT THROUGH THE SHREDDING AREA. IT WAS WELL STAFFED. AND WE ALSO DID PRETTY GOOD, I THINK, OF REPOSITIONING VOLUNTEERS AS THE NEED AROSE. SO WHEN WE REALIZED WE DIDN'T HAVE NECESSARILY ENOUGH PEOPLE IN THE PAPER AREA, WE HAD SOME MORE VOLUNTEERS AT ANOTHER STATION OVER, AND THEN THAT KIND OF GOT CAUGHT UP. SO THAT WAS THE SURVEY. WE DID WANT TO OBVIOUSLY LEAVE SOME TIME FOR

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WELL, I MEAN, I, YEAH, I'VE BEEN SIGNAGE OF SOME SORT MIGHT HAVE BEEN NICE, BUT WITH THE POLICE OFFICER WERE THERE WITH LIGHTS FLASHING, IT'S LIKE YOU SEEMED PRETTY APPARENT WHERE SOMEONE WAS GOING TO BE. WE ONLY HAD TO TURN AWAY MAYBE SIX PICKLEBALL PEOPLE WERE FINE.

YEAH, YEAH. NOBODY WAS FUSSY ABOUT IT. OKAY. SO YEAH, I OBVIOUSLY I WASN'T IN THE HEART OF IT AND KNEE DEEP OUT, YOU KNOW, BEING THE BEING THE FACE OF IT, OF COURSE. BUT I THINK WE DID A REALLY GOOD JOB. YEAH. FROM BEING A PART OF IT FROM THE VERY BEGINNING, WHEN WE DID IT IN FIRST YEAR AND ADRIAN AND I WERE LIKE, OH MY GOSH, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO WHAT DO WE DO WITH ALL THIS STUFF? IT WAS KIND OF FUNNY, BUT THIS BY FAR, YOU'RE RIGHT. WE'RE FINE. WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE SHARPENING IT AND IT'S GETTING BETTER. I FEEL LIKE THIS YEAR AFTER LAST YEAR WAS WILD. THIS YEAR WAS SO MUCH MORE MANAGEABLE AND SMOOTH. AND PEOPLE WERE REALLY APPRECIATIVE AND THEY KIND OF UNDERSTOOD MORE OF WHAT WAS EXPECTED TOO.

YEAH. A COUPLE OF PEOPLE ASKED ABOUT LIKE DRUG DROP OFF. THEY WERE BRINGING LIKE MEDICINE.

I'M LIKE, THAT'S THE POLICE. BUT WE, YOU KNOW, WE KIND OF REDIRECTED PEOPLE AND THEY WERE PRETTY GOOD ABOUT IT. SO I THINK WE WEREN'T SUPPOSED TO TAKE DRUGS. WELL, YEAH. WHAT? NEVER MIND. I WANT TO SAY WHEN YOU CALL IT YOUR HOODIE POCKET. OH, PEOPLE HAD BIG BAGS ANYWAY, BUT YEAH, I THOUGHT IT WENT REALLY WELL. SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THE CHANGES THAT WERE MADE. AND I ALWAYS LOVE GREETING PEOPLE AND GETTING THEM IN AND KIND OF, YOU KNOW, JUST THANKING THEM FOR DOING THIS BECAUSE THEY COULD PUT IT IN THEIR TRASH AND IT COULD BE RIGHT. SO IT'S A GOOD THING. SO THANK YOU. I WAS GONNA SAY ALONG THAT LINE BECAUSE YES, WE DID GET A NUMBER OF THOSE PEOPLE. I'M WONDERING IF THAT IS I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT FALL SHORTLY, IF THAT MIGHT BE A STATION, WHETHER CHIEF HAS STAFF TO BE ABLE TO HAVE SOMEBODY THERE TO TAKE THAT KIND OF STUFF, IT WOULD JUST BE A NICE CATCH ALL AT ONE EVENT BECAUSE I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE YOU TEND TO OTHER THAN THE ONE LITTLE LADY THAT HAD, I THINK LIKE A GROUT CLEANER AND SHE HAD HER I HAVE MY BOTTLE. I'M LIKE, OH, FOR CRYING OUT LOUD, I'LL GO AHEAD AND DO SOMETHING ELSE. YOU KNOW, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT ARE LIKE THEY HAD, HERE'S THIS AND HERE'S THIS AND HERE'S THIS. THERE DEFINITELY ARE PEOPLE ARE TO, TO MOLLY'S POINT, I THINK THEY'VE CAUGHT ON TO WHAT'S HAPPENING. AND SO WHEN IT COMES OUT, THEY'RE LIKE REALLY DOING WELL. AND THAT IS AN ELEMENT, LIKE I SAID, I PROBABLY GOT TEN PEOPLE ASKING ABOUT IT. YEAH, WE COULD DEFINITELY ASK THE POLICE. THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.

AND I THINK THAT GOES BACK TO THEY'RE GOING TO BE THERE ANYWAY. SO OR MAYBE. YEAH THAT'S TRUE. WELL, ACTUALLY I GUESS THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO CONSIDER. YEAH. WE BROUGHT TWO POLICE OFFICERS OUT HERE JUST IN CASE WE GOT THE SAME NUMBERS AS WE DID LAST YEAR. SO WE KIND OF I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE'LL NEED TO REEVALUATE FOR 2026. IT'S A DIFFERENT SITE TOO, SINCE PUBLIC SERVICE WILL BE UNDER CONSTRUCTION. BUT YEAH, AS FAR AS LIKE THE PILLS GO, I THINK MAYBE THAT'S ALSO SOMETHING THAT WE CAN IMPROVE ON OUR COMMUNICATION SIDE OF THINGS. HERE'S WHAT WE ARE COLLECTING. HERE'S WHAT WE AREN'T COLLECTING. WE WOULD JUST BE A LITTLE BIT MORE EXPLICIT IN THAT. IF YOU GUYS THINK THAT WOULD ALSO BE ADDITIVE, BECAUSE I ALSO, I REMEMBER GETTING ASKED A COUPLE TIMES ABOUT TAKING PILLS AS WELL. I GAVE HIM A PIECE. CASEY, WHAT DO YOU NEED? WHAT DO YOU KNOW? PILLS WERE TAKEN. THEY WERE JUST RIGHT AS FAR AS WE SAID. OF COURSE, MY BLOOD PRESSURE IS GREAT. ANY OTHER ANY OTHER COMMENTS? GREAT. SO SOME OF THAT CAME UP. IS THAT HAVING A SPONSORSHIP OR A SPONSOR TO FOR THE COLLECTION EVENTS? SO I DID A LITTLE BIT OF RESEARCH WITH THAT. AND SO I TALKED TO SOME OF MY COUNTERPARTS IN OTHER CITIES IN FRANKLIN COUNTY, CURRENTLY, NO OTHER CITY THAT HAS SPONSORSHIPS FOR THE THE COLLECTION EVENTS, THE EVENT COSTS ABOUT $19,000. THAT'S NEW ALBANY SPECIFIC. I DO WANT TO GO TO WEB PAGE HERE THAT HAS A TALKS ABOUT SPONSORSHIPS IN THE CITY. SO THE CITY REALLY DOESN'T GO OUT AND GET SPONSORSHIPS, BUT WE HAVE HAD BUSINESSES COME TO US AND SAY, WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SOME FUNDS WE WANT TO DONATE OR CAN WE SPONSOR AN EVENT? AND THE CITY HAS HAD SUCCESS WITH THAT.

SO LET ME. SO THIS IS THE PAGE EVENTS AND SPONSORS, EVENTS AND PROGRAM SPONSORS. AND I KNOW IT'S A LITTLE BIT HARD TO SEE, BUT. THAT'S NOT GOING TO GET ANY BIGGER. BUT FOR OUR SUMMER CONCERT SERIES, WE HAVE DIFFERENT LEVELS OF SPONSORSHIPS. SO UP TO $7,500, RIGHT? THIS JUST LISTS OUT ALL THE EVENTS THAT HAVE SPONSORS. SO JUNETEENTH, INDEPENDENCE DAY, AND THEY ALL VARY, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, ON THE LEVEL OF SPONSORSHIP BUSINESS, KIDS

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DID YOU SEE IT AS LIKE A BOB EVANS PARKING LOT OR SOMETHING? YEAH, I STARTED SEEING IT IN ALL OF MY SOCIAL MEDIA ADS. I KNOW THAT WE CAN'T PREVENT IT, BUT LIKE, IT WOULD JUST BE NICE TO COORDINATE. LIKE WE WOULD HAVE REALLY WORKED WITH SOMEONE PROBABLY IF THEY WOULD HAVE COME TO US AND SAID, HEY, WE'RE DOING THIS. WOULD YOU LIKE TO BACK THAT ALONG THE LINES OF WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, YOUR SPONSORSHIP AND VOLUNTEERS MAYBE. SO JUSTSTSTSTSTSTSTSTSTS.

I THINK THAT'S A GREAT VEHICLE FOR SUSTAINABILITY INITIATIVES. PEOPLE WANT TO SPONSOR THAT. IF WE CAN THINK OF OTHER EVENTS, DATA CENTERS YOU HAVE YOU HAVE A CONNECTION TO THE DATA CENTER, PLEASE HOOK THEM UP WITH US. YEAH. YES. IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF THAT, RIGHT? WHERE, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE A PROGRAM INTERNALLY THAT ALIGNS WITH SOMETHING THAT'S, YOU KNOW, WE ALSO SUPPORT AS A CITY PLANTING OF TREES. SO THIS SPONSORSHIP PROGRAM THAT WE CREATED, YOU KNOW, DIDN'T EXIST JUST EVEN A FEW YEARS AGO. AND SO WHEN COMPANIES WOULD APPROACH US, YOU KNOW, WE WEREN'T SURE, YOU KNOW, LIKE, WHAT IS THE KIND OF THE GIVE AND TAKE THERE FOR SPONSORSHIPS? WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE TREATING ALL SPONSORS EQUALLY, RIGHT? CERTAIN, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S A PERSON OR A COMPANY HAVE CERTAIN EXPECTATIONS THAT COME WITH THAT SPONSORSHIP, RIGHT? BUT WHAT'S GREAT NOW IS THAT WE DO HAVE THIS PROGRAM. SO WHEN THE SHOTS OF THE WORLD DO COME TO NEW ALBANY, OR IF IT IS ANOTHER DATA CENTER OR ANOTHER COMPANY, WE'RE EQUIPPED NOW. SO, YOU KNOW, WE CAN BE READY AND ACT ON IT TO MAKE SURE WE CAN TAKE FULL ADVANTAGE OF, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THAT, THAT SPONSORSHIP LEVEL THAT THEY'RE WANTING AND WILLING TO GIVE. SO AS DAVE MENTIONED, YEAH, IT'S HARD TO KNOW EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON, BUT CERTAINLY WE NEED YOUR HELP. IF YOU GUYS HEAR A FIND SOMETHING, LET US KNOW.

AND IF, IF YOU COULD PUT US IN TOUCH WITH THOSE PEOPLE, WE CAN CERTAINLY THEN, YOU KNOW, TAKE THAT NEXT STEP AND MEET WITH THEM AND SEE IF IF THERE'S A MATCH THERE FOR A SPONSORSHIP OR FOR SOME OTHER SORT OF LIKE PARTNERSHIP. GOOGLE'S BEEN GETTING INVOLVED WITH THE SCHOOLS, AND THEY SEEM REALLY INTERESTED IN SUSTAINABILITY INITIATIVES. SO I COULD PROBABLY GET YOU IN CONTACT WITH HIM. THAT'D BE GREAT. THANK YOU. YEAH, I GUESS I IMAGINE AND TO BACK UP A SECOND, THE GENESIS OF ASKING THE QUESTION WAS AFTER LAST YEAR'S EVENT WAS SO HUGE. AND I REMEMBER CASEY WAS SWEATING WHAT THE NUMBER WAS GOING TO BE GOING TO COUNCIL. IT WAS LIKE, OH, LIKE, WHAT'S A BACKUP OPPORTUNITY HERE THAT THAT WE'RE NOT COMING BACK TO THE CITY. I MEAN, NOT NOT THE CITY, NOT ABLE TO OR HAPPY TO, YOU KNOW, BUDGET FOR THIS. BUT IF IT WERE TO GET LARGER LIKE THAT, IS THERE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD DO IN TERMS OF A SPONSORSHIP? SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE THIS WAS BORN FROM, I GUESS IN MY MIND, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU GUYS ARE TALKING ABOUT IN TERMS OF OTHER OTHER FOLKS IS THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD SUGGEST YOU GUYS REACH OUT TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, BECAUSE I ASSUME THAT THAT'S KIND OF THE INITIAL DOOR FRONT FOR PEOPLE COMING IN TO SAYING, HEY, WE'D LIKE TO GIVE YOU SOME MONEY. YEAH. AND UNLESS I'M WRONG ABOUT THAT. SO I ASSUME THAT THEY GO TO JIM'S GROUP AND SAID, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO. NO, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT ABOUT THAT. AND SARAH ZIEGLER, SHE WAS SITTING HERE WITH THE DARK SUIT JACKET ON.

AND SO SHE'S THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT MANAGER. SO SHE LEADS OUR BUSINESS RETENTION PROGRAM. SO JUST LIKE WILL HAS A FIVE YEAR PRUNING SCHEDULE. I THINK SARAH HAS A FIVE YEAR LIKE VISIT, YOU KNOW, TO MAKE SURE SHE'S GOING TO COMPANIES ASKING WHAT THEY'RE DOING. HOW CAN WE HELP THEM AS A CITY? BUT ALSO YOU HAVE TO KEEP THAT CONVERSATION GOING SO WE CAN MAKE THOSE CONNECTIONS. SO IF THERE ARE THOSE OPPORTUNITIES AND HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS AT THAT POINT, OKAY, TO THROW OUT G TOTALLY DIFFERENT. BUT SO THE WEEK BEFORE OURS, THIS, I THINK

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COULD WE DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT? MAYBE A DONATION THAT WOULD GO TO THE NEW ALBANY FOOD PANTRY OR SOMETHING ELSE THAT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE GETTING THEY'RE GETTING RID OF THEIR STUFF FOR FREE. THEN THEY'RE LIKE, WELL, I CAN GET $5. THEN I JUST GOT RID OF ALL MY PAINT FOR FREE. HERE'S FIVE BUCKS FOR THE FOOD PANTRY OR SOME OTHER ORGANIZATION SO THAT WE CAN HELP SOMEONE ELSE, YOU KNOW, BENEFIT FROM OUR ACTIVITIES.

YEAH. AND YOU'RE, YOU'RE KIND OF JUMPING AHEAD TO ANOTHER SLIDE. OH, BUT SO MAYBE YOU'VE SEEN THESE SLIDES IN ADVANCE, BUT YEAH, CERTAINLY OTHER OTHER CITIES. I THINK BEXLEY HAS A PROGRAM, I THINK UPPER ARLINGTON, WESTERVILLE, WHERE THEY'RE COLLECTION EVENTS. THEY PEOPLE COULD BRING BOOKS AND DONATE TO THE LIBRARY. PEOPLE COULD BRING NON PERISHABLE FOOD TO GO TO FOOD BANK, ETC. ETC. THE MONEY THING IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. I THINK WE'D HAVE TO LOOK INTO THAT WHERE IF PEOPLE WOULD JUST GIVE US MONEY JUST BECAUSE IT'S MONEY, YOU KNOW, OR GIVE THEM MONEY, BUT THAT'S A GOOD KIND OF SEGUE. WELL BEFORE, I MEAN, AT A MINIMUM, CAN WE GET OUR EVENT ADDED TO THE CITY'S WEB PAGE UNDER THE SPONSORSHIP TAB FOR NOW, I THINK SO, YEAH, WE CAN DEFINITELY LOOK INTO THAT. SO IF THEY GET THERE, THEY CAN SEE THE DIFFERENT EVENTS. AND THEN OUR E-WASTE DRIVE WILL BE ONE OF THE OFFERINGS FOR SPONSORSHIP. YEAH, YEAH. I DON'T KNOW THE HISTORY OF THE QUESTION FOR THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, BUT LIKE, DID THOSE BUSINESSES LIKE HOW DID THAT PAGE, HOW DID THOSE FESTIVALS GET UP ON THAT PAGE? RIGHT? FOR SPONSORSHIPS? IS IT THE CHICKEN OR THE EGG? DO WE PUT THEM UP THERE? AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN WE GOT INTEREST OR DID WE GET INTEREST? AND THEN WE PUT IT UP THERE TO GET MORE INTEREST. BUT YEAH, BUT YEAH, IF I HEAR YOU SAYING LIKE, YEAH, WE NEED TO START THINKING THROUGH WHAT THOSE TEARS WOULD BE FOR THIS TYPE OF, WE WOULD HAVE TO BUILD THE FRAMEWORK FOR IT. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. LET US LOOK AT THE, WE'LL, WE'LL DOUBLE CHECK THE SPONSORSHIP, BUT JUST TO MAKE SURE WE'RE FOLLOWING THAT SET RULES. BUT I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA THAT WE CAN START THINKING ABOUT THOSE TIER SYSTEMS AGAIN, JUST IN THE LINE OF PEOPLE ARE INTERESTED. WE'RE JUST READY TO TO ACT UPON THAT WHEN IF THE TIME SHOULD COME. SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS REGARDING SPONSORSHIPS, THEN WE'LL KIND OF JUMP TO THE FALL COLLECTION AND. SO I'M GOING TO GET TO TO JOSEPH'S COAT HERE IN A SECOND.

SO AS YOU KNOW, WITH THE FALL COLLECTION, WE'RE MOVING IT TO WATER'S EDGE OVER AT WALTON PARKWAY. AS STEVE MENTIONED EARLIER, THE PUBLIC SERVICE COMPLEX IS GOING TO BE UNDER CONSTRUCTION. WE'LL HAVE FOUR VENDORS THERE LIKE WE DID IN THE SPRING. THEY'RE UP THERE ON THE SCREEN. AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THE ONE GETTING CUT OFF THERE. AND THEN COUNCIL MEMBER KISS, YOU HAD MENTIONED BEFORE THE SPRING EVENT ABOUT REACHING OUT TO JOSEPH'S COAT TO IN THAT KIND OF GETS TO WHAT YOU JUST SAID. IS THERE A NONPROFIT IN THE AREA THAT COULD BENEFIT FROM PEOPLE BRINGING IN THINGS? AND SO WE REACHED OUT TO THEM IN THE NEXT SLIDE, TALKS ABOUT KIND OF WHAT THEY'RE ACCEPTING RIGHT NOW. AND THEN AFTER THAT, I'LL TALK ABOUT THE TEXTILE THINGS TAKE BACK POTENTIALLY AT THAT EVENT TOO. SO WITH JOSEPH'S COAT, THE MATERIALS THAT THEY'RE INTERESTED ARE KIND OF FURNITURE RELATED. SO COUCHES, LOVESEATS, KITCHEN TABLE, CHAIRS, DRESSERS, THEY NEED TO BE CLEAN. NO RIPS, NO STAINS, MATTRESSES, BOX SPRINGS, ETC. YOU KIND OF SEE THE LIST UP THERE. SO WE CERTAINLY HAVE THIS SPACE FOR THAT AT THE LOCATION. I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE BENEFITS OF THAT LOCATION FOR THE FALL EVENT. SO THE QUESTION FOR YOU ALL IS, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING JOSEPH'S COAT OR COUNCIL MEMBER KISS? IF YOU WANT TO ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE GENESIS OF THAT IDEA? YEAH, IT BASICALLY, I THINK I SHARED WITH YOU BEFORE WE WERE CLEANING OUT OUR BASEMENT AND THE GUY THAT HELPED US DO IT TOOK A LOT OF OUR LIKE KIDS TOYS AND FURNITURE THAT WE HAD.

AND HE'D DONE A LOT OF WORK WITH JOSEPH'S COAT AND RAVED ABOUT IT. AND MY WIFE REACHED OUT TO HIM AND SUPER POSITIVE. AND ONE OF THE FEW PLACES THAT, YOU KNOW, LIKE MATTRESSES, LIKE, I DON'T KNOW, MANY PLACES THAT TAKE MATTRESSES AND THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY TREAT THEM, THEY'VE GOT A WHOLE PROCESS AND THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY ALL GOES TO USE TO, TO THOSE IN NEED. SO THAT'S

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SO YOU WOULDN'T BE DOING THE, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD JUST BE REALLY CLEAR WHAT YOU'RE TAKING AND NOT TAKING. THAT'S THE ONLY THING. YEAH. BECAUSE I COULD SEE IT BECOMING A DUMPING. DO YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? LIKE YEAH YEAH YEAH. WELL ONE THING IS MY CONCERN. ONE THING IS LIKE LETTING FOLKS KNOW WHAT EXACTLY WHAT THEY TAKE. BECAUSE IF YOU START DOING WHAT WE DON'T TAKE, PEOPLE START GETTING CONFUSED. AND LIKE I THOUGHT YOU SAID YOU COULD TAKE IT, BUT NO, YOU CAN'T. SO DEFINITELY LIKE HAVING IT LAID OUT. THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT ARE ACCEPTED AND YOU'LL STILL, YOU MIGHT STILL GET SOME PEOPLE WHO, YOU KNOW, BRING LIKE, I DON'T KNOW, A CREDENZA OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND THEY'RE NOT TAKING A CREDENZA RIGHT NOW. SO. I GUESS, AND THIS ISN'T JUST JUST GO, BUT IN GENERAL. I KNOW WE HAVE COVER SERVICE CENTER FOR. AND IT DID RAIN TWO, THREE YEARS AGO. IN FACT, WE HAD INCLEMENT WEATHER.

SO I JUST, YOU KNOW, LIKE THE E-WASTE, AS LONG AS ALL THE COMPANIES KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE THE BACKUP TO STICK THE STUFF IN THE SERVICE CENTER IF IT IS RAINING OR IT'S OCTOBER IN OHIO. YEAH. YOU NEVER KNOW. IT COULD BE SNOWING, BUT AS LONG AS EVERYBODY'S OKAY WITH, YOU KNOW, WE COULD BE HAVING THIS DEAL WITH HAVING THIS STUFF OUT IN THE ELEMENTS, WHICH I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE ELECTRONICS, IF THEY GET WET, I DON'T THINK THAT REUSING THEM.

BUT. BUT ESPECIALLY THE FURNITURE AND ITEMS. YEAH. SO HOW'S EVERYBODY FEELING ABOUT INCLUDING THIS? I AGREE WITH BECKY'S IDEA THAT IT IS A BARRIER FOR SOME FOLKS. I THINK IT'S A NICE ADDITION. AND YEAH, I THINK IF YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO DO IT, I THINK THERE ARE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES YOU COULD, YOU KNOW, CALL BRIDGES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BUT I KIND OF LIKE THE IDEA. THAT'S TRUE. IT COULD BE. I MEAN, I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO GET I COULD BE WRONG.

MAYBE I DON'T THINK THE TURNOUT IS GOING TO BE AS BRISK. SO IT'S A GOOD TEST TO HAVE IT AT THE FALL EVENT RATHER THAN THE THE BIGGER SPRING ONE, JUST BECAUSE I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE PURGED ALREADY THIS YEAR. SO I DON'T KNOW. I HAVEN'T SEEN MY BASEMENT. I DIDN'T GET THE.

YEAH, REUSE ITEMS FOR YEARS. YOU CAN GET NEW STUFF ANYWAY. IS IT JUST I WANT TO GIVE STUFF DIRECTION? IS ANYONE OPPOSED TO INCLUDING THE JOSEPH'S COAT? OKAY, GREAT. AWESOME. OKAY, SO THE NEXT ONE IS REGARDING TEXTILES. THIS IS WHAT I'M EXCITED ABOUT. YES. SO SO THIS IS A PARTNERSHIP THAT SWACO IS DOING WITH, OH, I FORGOT THE NAME OF THE CIRCULAR THRIFT.

THEY DID A PILOT LAST YEAR IN SOME COMMUNITIES, AND THEY COLLECTED 230,000 POUNDS OF MATERIAL, CLOTHING AND LINENS THAT ARE TORN, STAINED, DAMAGED OR USED TO THE POINT WHERE THEY CANNOT BE REALISTICALLY REWORN, REUSED, DONATED OR SOLD FOR REUSE. AND THAT'S A KEY

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SO YEAH, NORMALLY DONATE EVERYWHERE, SHEETS, TOWELS, THAT KIND OF STUFF THAT NOBODY TAKES. SO LIKE THAT'S ALWAYS JUST GOES IN THE TRASH UNLESS, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN ONLY HAVE SO MANY RIDES. COULD WE ALSO HAVE SOMETHING FOR LIKE, WELL, I JUST THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BRING CLOTHES. LIKE UNLESS WE MAKE IT VERY CLEAR THAT IT'S NOT, THESE AREN'T CLOTHES THAT ARE MEANT TO BE REWORN. RIGHT. WELL, THEY'LL TAKE WHATEVER THE PURPOSE IS THAT THEY WOULDN'T BE REUSED BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE'D LIKE TO HAVE THEM DO THAT. BUT I MEAN, SOMEONE BROUGHT A PERFECTLY GOOD PAIR OF JEANS. I MEAN, THEY'RE STILL GOING TO GO, BUT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GET THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GO TO GOODWILL. CORRECT. THEY'RE GOING TO GET RECYCLED. YEAH. SHREDDED UNLESS YOU HAD GOODWILL THERE AS WELL. YEAH.

YEAH. THAT'S WHAT I WAS THE WHOLE THING THOUGH. I GUESS IT'S LIKE PEOPLE HAVE TO BE ORGANIZED, RIGHT? LIKE, OH, THIS IS MY YEAH, MY STAINED CLOTHES. THIS IS MY LIKE DONATED CLOTHES. YEAH. IT DOES SEEM LIKE A WASTED OPPORTUNITY. I THINK THAT WOULD MAKE A GOOD VIDEO, THOUGH. CASEY COULD SHOW THE UNDERWEAR THAT HE'S GOING TO DONATE. AND I'VE NEVER GOTTEN RID OF UNDERWEAR. HE'S GOT A I'VE GOT NOTHING. YOU KNOW, THERE'S ONE LITTLE SHRED STILL LEFT. I DO LOVE THAT. THIS IS LIKE OUTSIDE THE BOX A LITTLE. IT'S BEYOND KNOW I LOVE THE CONCEPT. I'M JUST LIKE ANTICIPATING FOLKS ARE JUST GOING TO BRING CLOTHES. YEAH.

NO, BUT SERIOUSLY, IF WE DID A VIDEO SAYING, YOU KNOW, JUST DONATE FOR YEAH, THIS IS A NICE THING THAT YOU WOULD GET. YOU WOULD DONATE, YOU WOULD GIVE THE RIGHT CLOSET AND THIS STAINED OLD T SHIRT, YOU KNOW, IS SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD NORMALLY THROW OUT BECAUSE NOBODY TAKES THAT STUFF. YEAH. SO I THINK A VIDEO WOULD BE GOOD TOO. OH YEAH. YEAH, YEAH.

YEAH. I IS THIS, I LIKE THIS IDEA. SO LIKE I SAID, WE GOT REACHED OUT TO DAVID AND I, SO ABOUT THE FARMERS MARKETS. AND I'M LIKE, YEAH, THAT'S NOT GOING TO FLY. BUT THIS KIND OF THING WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, IN MASS AND MUCH BETTER. I, I LIKE, I LIKE THE IDEA OF HAVING TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S REUSABLE WITH THE FOUNDATION DOES WITH THE JEANS DONATIONS. BUT I, ON A SCALE OF, YOU GUYS KNOW, WORKING THIS EVENT, YOU'RE GOING TO GET A BAG OF STUFF AND SOMEONE SAYS, THIS IS, THIS IS EVERYTHING. AND YOU'RE LIKE, OH, ARE YOU SORTING IT? LIKE, I DON'T, I FEEL LIKE YOU'RE NOT TRYING TO DO THE TWO THINGS. MIGHT BE A SMARTER WAY TO HANDLE THIS. ALSO, I COULD TALK, I HATE TO SAY, BECAUSE I'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO DO WHATEVER, BUT BUT I THINK THAT THIS ONE IS SOMETHING THAT IS UNIQUE. YES, WE CAN DONATE CLOTHES ANYTIME WE WANT. YES, YES. YOU'RE GOING TO SAY, DO YOU UNDERSTAND THIS IS IS THERE ANYTHING, YOU KNOW, I THINK TO BE CLEAR, THE EXPECTATION WHENEVER I THINK THAT'LL BE FINE BECAUSE IT'S ALWAYS THE OPTION TO GO, OH, THEN I SHOULD PROBABLY DONATE. THIS IS LIKE BETTER THAN, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? SO PEOPLE CAN KIND OF MAKE UP THEIR JUDGMENT AND WE HAVE A GOOD PLACE TO POINT THEM. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. WELL, YOU SHOULD TAKE THAT TO THE GOODWILL. YEAH. YOU KNOW, NEXT TO THE GIANT EAGLE. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. AND I COULD TALK TO YOU BECAUSE I'M SURE THAT QUESTION CAME UP LAST YEAR AND JUST IF THEY LOOKED INTO IT, YOU KNOW, BUT YEAH, IT DOES GET CONFUSING. LIKE YOU SAID, IF SOMEBODY BRINGS JUST A BIG BAG OF SOMETHING AND NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN WE'RE SORTERS, RIGHT? NOBODY WANTS TO DO THAT. YEAH. WHAT'S THIS? WE WANT YOUR UNDERWEAR. THE LAST THING YOU WANT TO DO IS, YOU KNOW, SORT NEW ON HERE, I GUESS NOT OPENING THAT BAG. I GUESS BASED ON THIS DIRECTION WHAT I'M HEARING, IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S

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WHAT TIME IS THAT? IT'S GOING TO BE FROM 4 TO 7 P.M. BUT RIGHT THERE YOU CAN SIGN UP FOR.

I'LL SIGN UP FOR THE 25TH. I DO A MEETING AT THE LIBRARY RIGHT AFTER THAT, SO THAT'LL BE CONVENIENT. I DO 25TH. AWESOME. THANK YOU. MAYBE. HOW MANY PEOPLE DO YOU NEED THERE FOR EACH SHIFT? I WOULD SAY LIKE TWO PEOPLE PER SHIFT OR MAYBE EVEN ONE. I MEAN, IT'D BE 27.

OKAY, OKAY, COOL. DO YOU HAVE EVERYONE FOR THE 25TH, THE JUNE 1ST, I THINK, I THINK WE HAVE THREE PEOPLE PLUS ME. SO I THINK WE NEED MAYBE, MAYBE ONE MORE. WE'RE NOT GOING TO TURN YOU AWAY. YEAH. I THINK IDEALLY WHAT WE'RE SAYING. SO IT'S TWO SHIFTS FOR EACH FARMER'S MARKETS. WE NEED LIKE FOUR PEOPLE TOTAL TWO FIRST SHIFT, TWO SECOND SHIFT. SO I'LL BE I'LL BE THERE THE WHOLE TIME. OH YEAH. SO THEN I GUESS WOULD BE LIKE TWO PEOPLE, ONE PERSON WOULD COME AT 4 TO 530, SOMEBODY COME IN AT 530 TO 7. I'LL DO THE 530 TO 7 IF YOU'RE GOING TO SPLIT IT UP THAT WAY ON THE 25TH. OKAY, I CAN JUST GO TO MY MEETING AFTER. YEAH, I COULD DO THE 27TH. WHATEVER. AWESOME. SO 4 TO 530 ON 25TH. OKAY. GOTCHA. THIS IS GREAT.

THANK YOU. I WAS GOING TO SAY, LOOK AT YOU. PUT THE THUMBSCREWS IN. FIRST TIME THIS HAS HAPPENED. I JUST WANT TO MAKE. ALL RIGHT. WILL YOU EMAIL US IF YOU END UP NEEDING ANOTHER ABSOLUTELY PERSON OR. OKAY. THANK YOU. THERE'S NO OTHER BUSINESS. WELL, IT COULD BE OTHER BUSINESSES AND THAT WOULD BE THE END OF THE BUSINESS. THANK YOU. OH MY GOD.

[VIII. Poll Members for Comment]

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YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. SO YEAH, AS FAR AS PROCESS GOES, YEAH, THERE'S PLANNING COMMISSION, THERE'S A PARKS AND TRAILS ADVISORY BOARD AS WELL. BUT WE'RE CERTAINLY HAPPY TO KEEP THIS BOARD UP TO DATE ON THE INFORMATION THAT WE'RE GETTING. I'LL NEED TO CHECK TO, TO SEE IF WE ARE STARTING A WEBSITE OR UPLOADING THIS TO OUR WEBSITE AS WELL. I KNOW WE'RE AS JUST AN ORGANIZATION TRYING TO GET MORE AND MORE INFORMATION ON OUR WEBSITE TO SHARE WITH THE WHOLE COMMUNITY. SO I'M SURE THERE'LL BE A FEEDBACK ABOUT WHAT WAS COLLECTED TO SHARE WITH EVERYBODY ACROSS THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY. YEAH. AND JUST TO BE CLEAR, I THINK THIS BOARD SHOULD BE A CRITICAL PART OF OFFERING INPUT, NOT JUST BEING KEPT ABREAST OF THINGS, BECAUSE I THINK THIS IS WHERE WE'VE STRUGGLED AS A BOARD, WHICH AGAIN, YOU'RE COMING INTO A NEW ROLE, BUT WE'VE STRUGGLED AS A BOARD AS TO ARE WE DOING LITTLE PROJECTS OR ARE WE ACTUALLY INVOLVED WITH PUSHING THE POLICY AND PROCESS FOR THIS FOR THE CITY FORWARD? AND NOT THAT I THINK, EVER HAVE ANY DELUSIONS THAT WE SHOULD HAVE SOME APPROVAL ROLE OF ANYTHING, BUT CERTAINLY BEING ABLE TO HAVE THINGS PRESENTED BEFORE THEY'RE ALREADY BAKED COMPLETELY AND SAYING, WHAT DO YOU THINK? AND, YOU KNOW, ALL OF A SUDDEN PEOPLE ARE FINDING HOLES IN THINGS THAT LIKE, YOU DIDN'T THINK ABOUT THIS OR YOU DIDN'T THINK ABOUT THIS KIND OF THING. SO I, IT SOUNDS LIKE COUNCIL MEMBER KISS IS IN AGREEMENT THAT AT LEAST HAVING SOME OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THIS THING PRIOR, PRIOR TO BEING COMPLETELY DONE WOULD BE APPRECIATED, EXPECTED. LET'S SAY THAT. ALL RIGHT. IF NO OTHER COMMENTS, I MOVE TO ADJOURN THE MEETING AT 920. STAFF, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SECOND. ALL RIGHT.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.